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  • TexRancher

    The 2nd Amendment still recognizes our Right to self defense and it is even more clear the insightfulness of our founding fathers. They looked into the future and saw Obama!
    The 2nd Amendment was to protect against an abusive government and is NOT negotiable!

    • Alex

      Right, your little popgun will bring down an F-16 and stop a tank.
      Grow up….

      • angrymike

        It doesn’t need to stop an F16, the constitution states that the military cannot intervene in domestic disturbances, only the national guard, how many of them there nat guard F16’s are there anyway???????

        • Vis Fac

          More than you think!!! Several squadrons throughout the nation. I doubt the National Guard will fire on Civilians. Not if they have a conscience. We all know liberals and socialist do not have a consceince.

          To sit back hoping that someday, some way, someone will make things right is to go on feeding the wolf, hoping he will eat you last – but eat you he will.

          You don’t have to be a Marine to make a difference the only requirement is being truly patriotic and the willingness to back it up!!!

          Libertas inaestimabilis res est
          Semper Fi

        • Roy Fredrichsen

          There aren’t many F-16 left in the National Guard. The
          government took them all away in the interest of “Base Re-alighnment” and gave them Preditors to fly by remote control where the government wanted them.

        • Robert Messmer

          Where in the constitution does it say that? And I vaguely remember something about troops (US I thought) firing on Veterans in DC about their benefits that were due them? I know that according to the Constitution it is unlawful for the Government to have a standing army. It is authorized a “standing Navy” and to “from time to time as may be necessary, raise armies”.

      • Tom

        How much difference did F-16’s and tanks make in Iraq. These are but relics of past conflicts when dealing with an active insurgency. Ask the Viet Cong, the Mujahadeen or Al-Qaida about it. Only a fool fights war to suit his enemies advantages.

        • Vis Fac

          ALEX in La La Land doesn’t have the capacity for rationalizing such things. He is a socialist pawn repeating what he has been programmed to repeat. ALEX in La La Land believes he’s going to be rewarded by his faithful service. Unfortunately ALEX in La La Land will find out with socialism some one is going to get something but that someone won’t be ALEX in La La Land!!!!

          To sit back hoping that someday, some way, someone will make things right is to go on feeding the wolf, hoping he will eat you last – but eat you he will.

          You don’t have to be a Marine to make a difference the only requirement is being truly patriotic and the willingness to back it up!!!

          Libertas inaestimabilis res est
          Semper Fi

      • Vis Fac

        ALEX in La La Land Strikes again with more inane diarrhea.

        ALEX in La La Land When are you going to answer my questions I asked a few weeks ago? Did you think I’d forget? I know you were hoping I would. The reason you haven’t answered is that you are a FRAUD and a COWARD not to mention not having anything to support your pre programmed agenda.

        You are merely a pawn used by the socialist elite who tell you that you will share in the wealth. News Flash ALEX in La La Land — With socialism somebody is going to get something but that somebody won’t be you!!

        Because you are a FRAUD and a COWARD I OWN YOU!!!!

        To sit back hoping that someday, some way, someone will make things right is to go on feeding the wolf, hoping he will eat you last – but eat you he will.

        You don’t have to be a Marine to make a difference the only requirement is being truly patriotic and the willingness to back it up!!!

        Libertas inaestimabilis res est
        Semper Fi

    • Vis Fac

      TEX you are incorrect . Nowhere in the second amendment does it mention self protection There is no mention of hunting either. Liberals who are in actuality are pawns for a socialist movement continually address these issues. The true purpose of the second amendment is ti fight tyranny from a corrupt government. We presently have such a scenario.

      “When governments fear the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny.” Thomas Jefferson

      The purpose of the Right to Bear Arms is to protect the People from tyranny in Government.” Thomas Jefferson

      “I sure as hell wouldn’t want to live in a society where the only people allowed guns are the police and the military.” -WILLIAM RICE BURROUGHS

      To sit back hoping that someday, some way, someone will make things right is to go on feeding the wolf, hoping he will eat you last – but eat you he will.

      You don’t have to be a Marine to make a difference the only requirement is being truly patriotic and the willingness to back it up!!!

      Libertas inaestimabilis res est
      Semper Fi

      • mark

        Lifelong heroin addict William Burroughs shot his wife Joan Vollmer to death in 1951 in Mexico City when he tried to reenact the William Tell legend by shooting an apple off her head. He bribed Mexican officials and only spent 13 days in jail for this crime. Even after killing his wife in this drunken stunt, he still remained a strong champion of gun rights. It was just his wife’s tough luck as it is for all innocent victims of mindless gun violence. He is a great example to quote on the topic of guns.

        • Vis Fac

          And your point is??? I suppose you support trigger happy gestapo police shooting people and never having to face charges just because they have a badge.

          You are just another pawn that has been used by the socialist elite thinking your going to get your share of the pie.

          I’ve got news for you mark. With socialism someone is going to get something but that someone is not going to be you.

          To sit back hoping that someday, some way, someone will make things right is to go on feeding the wolf, hoping he will eat you last – but eat you he will.

          You don’t have to be a Marine to make a difference the only requirement is being truly patriotic and the willingness to back it up!!!

          Libertas inaestimabilis res est
          Semper Fi

          • ChiefBoring

            I’m sure you’ve all seen the video of the police shooting to death a man using a wheel chair and then lying about it. So far they have been suspended and charges are pending. And then there was the case the other day of the brave police shooting to death a 13 year old boy who was carrying a toy weapon resembling an AK47. Another case of the few bad apples spoiling the barrel. The good cops should out these idiots, not continue to ignore or protect them under the “code”.

        • mnkysnkle

          I thought you were proud of your socialist associates. Both Vollmer and Burroughs were addicts. One to meth, and the other to heroin and morphine. The ruling was “culpable homicide”. They were both “out of their minds” at the time of the incident. They should be poster children for not allowing democrats ownership of weapons.

          • ChiefBoring

            Or drugs.

      • ChiefBoring

        FR, the right to keep and bear arms implies the right to use them for any legal means; however you are correct in stating the main purpose for the 2nd Amendment. It just would never have occurred to the founders that anyone would ever question the other reasons. Jefferson also said it was invigorating to carry one’s gun afield, or words to that effect. Fair winds and following seas.

        • Vis Fac

          Chief Yes but not within the content of the second amendment. First and foremost a firearm is a tool.For if it weren’t for the firearm we would still be British subjects a fact our liberal friends are remiss in realizing that fact.

          I would like to direct you to this site to find out why liberals are the way they are You may or may not be shocked at the content.

          http://vimeo.com/63749370
          Agenda Grinding America Down

          To sit back hoping that someday, some way, someone
          will make things right is to go on feeding the wolf,hoping he will eat you last – but eat you he will.

          You don’t have to be a Marine to make a difference the only requirement is being truly patriotic and the willingness to back it up!!!

          Libertas inaestimabilis res est
          Semper-Fi

          • ChiefBoring

            FR, my first reply just keeps showing blinking dots..Theat’s a new one. Of course you are correct about the specific wording of the amendment. BTW, I watched the video you were kind enough to send the link for. While most of it was not new, it did provide a very good synopsis of the aims of the left, and suggestions for countering them. Thank you. Fair winds and following seas.

          • Vis Fac

            Chief I know the content was not new but it has been subverted and discounted by socialist factions. Truth is the socialist’s biggest fear and they will do anything to discredit it.

            Those blinking dots are a glitch in the Discus program when posts are being censored or deleted after censoring. Again because of the truth. We have a few folks here that believe this isn’t so but given the penchant for government or their minions you can rest assured we are being monitored. The government fears patriots that is why we are labeled terrorists and those who agree with government are left alone (for now)

            To sit back hoping that someday, some way, someone
            will make things right is to go on feeding the wolf,hoping he will eat you last – but eat you he will.

            You don’t have to be a Marine to make a difference the only requirement is being truly patriotic and the willingness to back it up!!!

            Libertas inaestimabilis res est
            Semper-Fi

          • Vis Fac

            Chief I know the content was not new but it has been subverted and discounted by socialist factions. Truth is the socialist’s biggest fear and they will do anything to discredit it.

            Those blinking dots are a glitch in the Discus program when posts are being censored or deleted after censoring. Again because of the truth. We have a few folks here that believe this isn’t so but given the penchant for government or their minions you can rest assured we are being monitored. The government fears patriots that is why we are labeled terrorists and those who agree with government are left alone (for now)

            To sit back hoping that someday, some way, someone
            will make things right is to go on feeding the wolf,hoping he will eat you last – but eat you he will.

            You don’t have to be a Marine to make a difference the only requirement is being truly patriotic and the willingness to back it up!!!

            Libertas inaestimabilis res est
            Semper-Fi

          • ChiefBoring

            My second response went through with the same wording as the blinking dots one. Oh well. I sent the video to everyone I know. One of my old GDOL buddies is doing the same. He was a Yeoman 3rd back in the day. Semper Fi!

          • Vis Fac

            Fabulous The more who know the better chance we have of saving America

            To sit back hoping that someday, some way, someone will make things right is to go on feeding the wolf, hoping he will eat you last – but eat you he will.

            You don’t have to be a Marine to make a difference the only requirement is being
            truly patriotic and the willingness to back it up!!!

            Libertas inaestimabilis res est
            Semper-Fi
            Fair winds and following seas!!

      • mnkysnkle

        “After a shooting spree, they always want to take the guns away from the people who didn’t do it. I sure as hell wouldn’t want to live in a society where the only people allowed guns are the police and the military.”
        ― William S. Burroughs
        Not to be confused with Edgar Rice Burroughs…… :)

  • rbrooks

    if you support any restrictions to the 2nd amendment, you effectively support all restrictions.

  • Tom

    The poll is, in all probability, flawed. Were you to ask these questions in rural Texas, Tennessee or West Virginia, the poll would be totally one sided. I would venture to guess that these polls were conducted in all areas of the U.S., but favored urban areas, over run with liberals. These urban sewers were likely heavily targeted to get the effects we see above.

  • jerry1944

    With our country trying to take away God we will need our weapons to fight to keep them Since what was it 12 of our genrals where just fired for saying they wouldn’t fire on Americans. Who can we turn to. God and Guns to help keep Him in our country

  • Vis Fac

    You People really need to see this the future of America might depend on it! You might be shocked by its content!!!

    http://vimeo.com/63749370
    Agenda Grinding America Down

    To sit back hoping that someday, some way, someone will make things right is to go on feeding the wolf, hoping he will eat you last – but eat you he will.

    You don’t have to be a Marine to make a difference the only requirement is being truly patriotic and the willingness to back it up!!!

    Libertas inaestimabilis res est
    Semper Fi

  • bill

    Actually I think the poll makes clear that the more the media hypes gun violence the more people realize they may need to protect themselves from those ‘bad’ actors – who are few in number in the population – but their actions serve to focus people on the need for self-protection – at home and ‘around’ their urban neighborhoods. That would tend to support the reporting of increased gun sales across the country, especially after the media hypes restrictions on gun ownership. Responsible citizens recognize that we have a growing problem of violence, gang or otherwise, moving from urban centers into more suburban and rural regions where such violence is less prevalent. Most of those events are reported usually only locally – then there are the few that get hyped for ‘political’ reasons and usually with the intent to influence legislative bodies. And the cycle repeats with the result we see today – more people wanting to protect themselves and their family from wanton violence, ‘evil-doers’, bullies and bad actors in general. At the rate we are going, may heaven help us all – but we know that Smith & Wesson or Colt surely will help if we are willing, ready and able.

  • terryk

    The Constitution intended to allow citizens to be armed not only to protect them against miscreatants but also to protect them against unlawful acts of a rogue government. So far this has worked let’s hope it continues. For those that want to give up their right its their choice.

    • squeeze127

      The general populace has to come to the conclusion that the police force carry a weapon for THEIR protection, not yours. Their job is to enforce the law, not to protect you from criminals, thugs, or hoodlums.

      • ChiefBoring

        True, the SCOTUS has released a decision that the police do not have a duty to protect individuals, but society at large. Remember, when seconds count, the police are (hopefully) only minutes away!

        • squeeze127

          Understand that if no crime has been committed, the police are not required to respond ASAP. Only minutes away is AFTER a crime has been committed. And that is if you are lucky, in Detroit it’s an hour away.

          • ChiefBoring

            Sad about Detroit. But, why would you call the police if a crime had not been commited? Just curious.

          • squeeze127

            Someone stalking, someone interested in fighting, anything that isn’t violent, domestic disputes. Those are not emergencies.

          • ChiefBoring

            Ah…Maybe not to the police, but perhaps to the stalkee or potential opponet.
            Subject: Re: New comment posted on U.S. Still Divided On Passing Stricter Gun Control Laws

  • mnkysnkle

    These polls are just bogus propaganda. The questioning of only 1,028 should produce a margin of error of 99.9%, not 4%.
    Gallup boasts in their prospectus that they are a valuable asset for the CFR. Gee DUH.!!

    • ChiefBoring

      If the selectees are truly randomly chosen, you can get a statistically accurate poll on any question neutrally worded. Neither of those caveats are likely to occur, so you are correct to take any poll with a grain or two of salt. BTW, we already have the condition of police and authorized carriers in place, depending upon your definition of “authorized”.

      • mnkysnkle

        I agree. I suspect there are more things in place than we can imagine. “Authorized” and “legal” are now defined by this illegal potus. Socialists are avid about redefining reality.

        • ChiefBoring

          You’re right. We can not let our guard down one bit. Three more years. God save the Supreme Court!

  • IBCAMN

    aahh,stupid people,S.H.,AZ. Boston,etc.. were all false flagg ops. to get guns and an assorted collection of other freedoms we have!
    when there is no fear,they can’t control you as well,fear is a great little thing gov’t loves to use to control the masses!don’t fall for all this crap,can’t you see it,”WE” are the terrorists to the gov’t!bush said it to us,”either your with us or your against us”(look under the gov’t’s new list of terrorists,were in there)why you think they have allowed the cops to murder you and walk?they are building the ideal interior army!or as obama say’s,”his army”or”my army”,he never say’s “the military”or”the air force”or”the marines”and so forth any more,now all he say’s is,”MY ARMY”(kings say that)and obama and his henchmen are rewording everything!look up the new gov’t term for pedophile,it’s”minor attracted person”.they say it’s too offensive to those type of people!why you think the union ALLOWS pedophiles to be teachers and have jobs around kids,and the gov’t lets them do it!
    my daugjhter brought home a new “revised” version of the constitution from school.lets just say its less than desireable!all the history books,same.open your eyes people,this has been done before by the gov’t and their doing it again!

  • Motov

    Here we go again about those uncontrollable, ill-mannered, and ungovernable guns just itching to jump in the hands of people and then go on a killing spree. So we need tougher laws to stop those naughty guns from killing people.

    I personally never witnessed a gun taking possession of a man or woman, then making them commit crimes. I guess those mischievous guns will become law abiding once they know they are not allowed to do these things.

    I imagine those undisciplined guns could use a good spanking too!