U.S. Gives Preferential Treatment to Saudi Travelers As Number Of Post-9/11 Immigrants Surges

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Amid an ongoing debate over the Gang of Eight’s immigration reform bill and its hasty omission of national security measures and only three weeks after the U.S. Department of Homeland Security (DHS) granted “trusted traveler” status to Saudi Arabia, CNS News has published a report revealing the number of Saudi students living in the United States has increased fivefold since Sept. 11, 2001.

Whether you’re a 9/11 truther or a believer in the official line that 15 of the 19 men who plotted and carried out the attacks were from Saudi Arabia (and may have had help from some pretty high places) doesn’t matter: The comparatively light scrutiny Saudi nationals receive when attempting to enter the U.S. is cause for concern.

According to the report, there were 5,579 Saudi nationals enrolled in U.S. colleges at the time of the Sept. 11 attacks. Last year, there were 34,139.

The Presidential infatuation with Saudi Arabia transcends political parties; George W. Bush was slammed post-9/11 for targeting Iraq while holding out on any sort of condemnation of Saudi extremism. Bush was President for most of the period between 2001 and 2012, and much of the influx happened under his watch. But the Saudi number has taken off under Barack Obama; it jumped from 22,704 to 34,139 — a 50.4 percent increase — last year alone.

Glenn Beck has been making a lot of noise since last week’s Boston Marathon attacks about a Saudi national who initially received some scrutiny from the FBI and DHS as a possible suspect. The student, Ali Al-Harbi, came to the United States via Boston, ostensibly to enroll at an Ohio university that has no record of his attendance.

Beck maintains that Al-Harbi went from primary suspect marked on DHS’ ‘No-fly” list to witness to free man to victim in a matter of hours because of an Obama Administration cover-up, one that presumably hides inscrutable arrangements between the White House and the Saudi government.

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  • Betta

    Now is the time to stop Muslims from entering this country. It is insane not to. Call it what you want to call it, but political correctness is off the table as far as I’m concerned. They come here and get all kinds of freedom while American citizens have their freedoms slowly but surely eradicated.

    • chocopot

      As I have tried to make people understand for years now, while other immigrants come here for a better life, even those who do not wish to assimilate and become “Americans,” Muslims come here to colonize. End it now and get rid of those who are here – they represent an immediate threat to our well-being.

      • Dave

        Kinda like whites did in the 1600’s and 1700’s eh? But you know all muslims personally to make such an assertion?

        Are all Christians exactly like The Foxboro Baptist Church crew?

        Keep the racism down to a dull roar please. Thank you.

        • Dave

          I am sorry Chocopot that you feel it necessary to throw away the principals of the United States because of a few extremists. I will not. I want the United States to be a free country.

          • chocopot

            Then clearly you must despise Obama since he has been the biggest enemy of freedom this country has seen in a long time. He has doubled down even on Bush’s violations against our rights and the Constitution.

          • Dave

            Actually I do dispise that expansion of the conservative’s Patriot Act and that is one of the reasons why Obama is no liberal, contrary to many here’s assertions. Compared the George W Bush, Dick Cheney and that band of criminals along with the Reagan, Clinton administrations… Obama is an amateur.

          • chocopot

            You are so wrong I could write a book about it. I do not have time for this…

          • Dave

            Nope Holly, I just possess a good understanding of history and critical thinking skills. It is the conservatives that seem to want to cause a stir by blaming Obama for much of what came before him. I can blame Obama for some things, just not all that you conservatives blame him for.
            Pity geniuses like you fail to understand such things. What is your MENSA number?

          • Holly Fragoso

            Not just a joke, but a mouth for the clown and the jester in the WH!! It’s funny how the left always try to turn the conversation to how smart you are….libs are so much smarter than everyone else!! Here’s a Joseph Stalin quote for you, “Liberals are useful idiots!!” Aren’t you glad you are giving to the cause!!?? Bwahahahaha!!!

          • Dave

            You have only named called in this conversation, so looks like the conservatives have a useful idiot in you. Let me know when you have something of substance. Thanks!

          • Holly Fragoso

            Keep turning the issue around to suite you….it makes you look like what old Joseph called you. BTW you say we stir things up by blaming O…..Really? you are the one on a conservative web site….I never go looking on Lib@$$ sites!!! Another moron on the public dole!!

          • Dave

            Maybe you like hearing “yes, I agree with you” all the time. I like my morals and ideals challenged to make sure they are worth keeping myself. Plus I like to know what the extremists on the conservative side are thinking. Not saying you are an extremist… unless you are.

          • Holly Fragoso

            No, I could care less who does or who doesn’t agree with me….Also, you have no morals and the communist idea has been tried and failed…and using the word extremist is to further incite arguing! Just like a liberal…..

          • Dave

            Amazing you hate Jesus Christ like that… Jesus was a communist.

            1. He threw the moneychangers out of the temple and called them theives. They were just ordinary businessmen in a laissez-faire economy.

            2. He said, “It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven.”

            3. He encouraged people to give everything they could, and promised that god would support everyone in need. Just like socialism.

            [edit]Matthew 19:21
            Jesus answered, “If you want to be perfect, go, sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me.”[/edit]

            4. “turn the other cheek”

            5. “love thy enemy”

            6. “blessed are the peacemakers”

            7. “blessed are the meek”

            8. “woe unto ye who are rich”

            9. “forgive our debts, as we forgive our debtors” — clearly he would favor bailing out poor people with subprime mortgages.

            10. “Give us this day our daily bread” — what a sense of entitlement to demand handouts!!!

            11. “Every mountain shall be made low, every valley shall be exalted” –although this is actually from Isaiah’s prophecy about the messiah, it looks like a metaphor for proletarian revolution

            12. Some early christians (before 200BC) actually established agricultural communes.

            13. Jesus is soft on crime: anybody who believes in his scapegoat-like sacrifice will be forgiven.

            14. Jesus loves the poor, the prostitutes, the lepers, etc. And he gave them free healthcare! That’s not what Ronald Reagan or John McCain would do.

            15. Jesus said nothing about or against homosexuality.

            16. “and when thou hast shut thy door, pray to thy father which is in secret” — clearly Jesus opposes school prayer.

            17. Jesus performed the “miracle of the loaves and fish” — divine government handouts for the poor.

            18. “ask and it shall be given to you. Seek and ye shall find. Knock and the door shall be opened” — giving the poor a sense of entitlement

            19. “Blessed are the merciful”

            20. “And if any man will sue thee, and take away thy cloak, let him have thy coat also. And whosoever shall compell thee to go a mile, go with him twain. Give to him that asketh thee, and from him that would borrow of thee turn not thou away” — He clearly favors caving in to terrorist demands, and giving the poor everything they want. Pacifist hippie communist!!!

            A person having these attitudes would most certainly be called a communist by most in this site. Whats worse a “do-gooder”
            Stop using big words you clearly have no idea about the meaning of.

          • Holly Fragoso

            All the words you have written mean nothing when you are unsaved and a liberal who thinks he can quote the Bible to his own interpretation!!! Just like a liberal, you will NEVER understand the Bible until you ask the Lord into your heart and pray for forgiveness!! Also, if you believe Jesus is a liberal, why aren’t you saved??? Christians are the most giving people and they are conservative!!! Liberals give pennies where conservatives give from their need….. http://www.bostonglobe.com/opinion/2012/08/22/jacoby/NXAEKAAJzDeSuxK8QqG7iI/story.html

          • Jana

            Dave, I am replying to your post and answering your many questions. This is lengthy. I read yours, please read my answer.

            You are wrong.

            Please if you do not believe in God or the Bible, this is your choice, but do not ridicule those of us who do.

            Amazing you hate Jesus Christ like that… Jesus was a communist. What?????————

            1. He threw the moneychangers out of the temple and called them theives.
            They were just ordinary businessmen in a laissez-faire economy. Math 21:12 and Mark 11:15

            Answer: The answer is found in the very next verse.
            These money changers had perverted the House of God and made it a cheap place of commerce where they probably even cheated the people as well. Matt 21:12-13

            12 And Jesus went into the temple of God, and cast out all
            them that sold and bought in the temple, and overthrew the tables of the moneychangers, and the seats of them that sold doves,

            13 And said unto them, It is written, My house shall be called the house of prayer; but ye have made it a den of thieves.
            KJV—————————————————–

            2. He said, “It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a
            needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven.” Answer: See answer below. It’s because they love their riches and wealth more than God. —————————————————–

            3. He encouraged people to give everything they could, and promised that god would support everyone in need. Just like socialism. Where did you find this??? This sounds like a promise the false god would make the way it is stated.————

            [edit]Matthew 19:21

            Jesus answered, “If you want to be perfect, go, sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me.”[/edit]

            Answer: Matt 19:16-24

            16 And, behold, one came and said unto him, Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life?

            17 And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.

            18 He saith unto him, Which? Jesus said, Thou shalt do no murder, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, (uh oh notice the THOU SHALT NOT COMMIT ADULTERY HERE???) (YOUR SOURCE LIED TO YOU)

            19 Honour thy father and thy mother: and, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.

            20 The young man saith unto him, All these things have I kept from my youth up: what lack I yet?

            21 Jesus said unto him, If thou wilt be perfect, go and sell that thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come and follow me.

            22 But when the young man heard that saying, he went away sorrowful: for he had great possessions.

            23 Then said Jesus unto his disciples, Verily I say unto you, That a rich man shall hardly enter into the kingdom of heaven.

            24 And again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God. KJV

            This man loved his money and his riches more than God. There were other examples in the Bible where
            men were rich and loved the Lord God with all their hearts and were not instructed to sell what they had and give to the poor.———————————–

            4. “turn the other cheek” ANSWER: Jesus was sending out His disciples to minister. He was telling them to be ready to turn the other cheek as they demonstrated many times over that they had to do. We all have to do this still when we are
            ministering the Word of God.——————————————————————————————————-

            5. “love thy enemy” ANSWER: Do we love our enemies enough
            to tell them the truth? Do we love our enemies enough to correct them? We love our children enough to correct them and tell them the truth. We pray for our
            enemies that they might find Truth. Truth is the One True God. God is WISDOM——————————————————–

            6. “blessed are the peacemakers” ANSWER: A true peacemaker is one introduces others to the Truth who is Christ the One who can give you peace.——————————–

            7. “blessed are the meek” ANSWER: Greek Praos humble
            unpretentious.——————

            8. “woe unto ye who are rich”
            ANSWER If you love that money more than you love the Lord your God.

            9. “forgive our debts, as we forgive our debtors” — clearly he
            would favor bailing out poor people with
            subprime mortgages.ANSWER : debts should read
            and does read in the manuscripts Transgressions. These are the sins that we have committed against God.——

            10. “Give us this day our daily bread” — what a sense of
            entitlement to demand handouts!!! ANSWER: Amos 8:11

            11 Behold, the days come, saith the Lord God, that I will send a famine in the land, not a famine of bread, nor a thirst for water, but of hearing the words of the Lord: KJV

            We are already having a famine of the Word of God because people are perverting the Word of God just like this site that you went to that perverted all of this misinformation.————-

            12. Some early christians (before 200BC) actually established agricultural communes.

            13. Jesus is soft on crime: anybody who believes in his scapegoat-like sacrifice will be forgiven. ANSWER:

            This says a lot for this site and you. It says you truly don’t comprehend salvation. It doesn’t mean that just because you are spiritually forgiven for your sins, thatyou are forvgiven by man. There is a big difference here, and, mocking the great sacrifice that Jesus provided for us by not only dyeing on
            the cross, but all that it entailed is really walking a dangerous line here. Be careful!————————————————–

            14. Jesus loves the poor, the prostitutes, the lepers, etc. And he gave them free healthcare! That’s not what Ronald Reagan or John McCain would do (Don’t know where you get this????????? ————————————————

            15. Jesus said nothing about or against homosexuality. Answer: Lev 20:13

            13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall
            surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them. KJV

            Lev 20:13 in plain English

            13 And if a man has sex relations with a man, the two of them have done a disgusting thing: let them be put to death; their blood will be on them. BBE

            Matt 5:18

            18 For verily I say unto you, Till
            heaven and earth pass away, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass away
            from the law, till all things be accomplished. (Jesus talking

            And, just in case you need to hear it
            out of the New Testament: Rom 1:24-32

            24 Therefore God also gave them up to
            uncleanness, in the lusts of their hearts, to dishonor their bodies among themselves, 25 who exchanged the truth of God for the lie, and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever. Amen.

            26 For this reason God gave them up to vile passions. For even their women exchanged the natural use for what is
            against nature. 27 Likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust for one another, men with men committing what is shameful, and receiving in themselves the penalty of their error which was due.

            28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a debased mind, to do
            those things which are not fitting; 29 being filled with all unrighteousness, sexual immorality, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, evil-mindedness; they are whisperers, 30 backbiters,
            haters of God, violent, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents, 31 undiscerning, untrustworthy, unloving, unforgiving, unmerciful;
            32 who, knowing the righteous judgment of God, that those who practice such things are deserving of death, not only do the same but also approve of those who practice them. NKJV————————————————————————-

            16. “and when thou hast shut thy door, pray to thy father which is in secret” — clearly Jesus opposes school prayer. ANSWER We can pray silently anywhere, in school, in public, at home, even at church. Wow.————————————————

            17. Jesus performed the “miracle of the loaves and fish” — divine government handouts for the poor.ANSWER: This is so ridiculous it doesn’t even deserve attention. Jesus didn’t perform the miracle. He gave the few loaves and the few fishes to his disciples who handed out the food. Through their hands the miracle was wrought. God uses His people.——————

            18. “ask and it shall be given to you. Seek and ye shall find. Knock and the door shall be opened” — giving the poor a sense of entitlement ANSWER: Ask Who???? Not the government. Again, this is for a spiritual healing. You are getting your Kingdoms mixed up.

            19. “Blessed are the merciful”

            20. “And if any man will sue thee, and take away thy cloak, let him
            have thy coat also. And whosoever shall compell thee to go a mile, go with him
            twain. Give to him that asketh thee, and from him that would borrow of thee
            turn not thou away” — He clearly favors caving in to terrorist demands,
            and giving the poor everything they want. Pacifist hippie communist!!!

            A person having these attitudes would most certainly be called a communist
            by most in this site. Whats worse a “do-gooder”

            Stop using big words you clearly have no idea about the meaning of.
            AS TO THE REST OF THIS NONSENSE. If you think I am a do-gooder then I have some bug spray for you. LOL., And, you don’t know the whole context of the Word of God. You are taking little bitty pieces out of it and twisting and manipulating it to fit an agenda that is definitely NOT God or His Word.
            As I said before, Please don’t ridicule or try to belittle those of us who LOVE THE LORD OUR GOD AND HIS MIGHTY WORD.

          • Dave

            Jana,

            Thats right religion is a choice and I have no problem with it. But I get the bible thumpers coming to me telling me the I am misguided because I do not believe in religion. That is talking down to me and ridiculing me because I do not believe in religion.I am not an atheist because they are wrong too… You cannot prove god exists no more that you can prove god doesn’t exist. I just happen to believe god is not an ego-maniac like Christians and Muslims do where you have to pray all the time. But Atheists do not have whole networks telling you “NOT” to believe and no other religion is afforded a month + long celebration (Christmas) to celebrate the birth of someone that wasn’t even born on that date and the majority of the celebration (St Nick, X-mas tree, and presents) are pagan in origin.

            I was not directing that post to you. But EVERYONE in power in religions manipulates and twists the bible/koran etc for their own puposes. Ask the KKK about that one. They used the bible for their racism. Today even, people use the bible to deny homosexuals equality. Christians can’t even get their stories straight and have different versions of Christianity… Mormons, Lutherans, Protestants, Catholics and so on.

            Love the “Lord”, love fire, love a rock, love chocolate… Just don’t force your religion on me through laws. That is why the 1st Amendment is in place. State sponsored religions are not good.

          • Holly Fragoso

            I can prove God exists, he made you….and everything you said in your post to Jana is you, expressing your free will that God gave you. That’s how much He loves you….you have a free will no other religion has free will. No other religion has a Savior that died for them. God does not force Himself on you, yet He does tell His children to tell others about His Gift to them in hopes others will want to know Him too. You are flawed though, when you say that Christianity has several denominations so it must be wrong. No, again that is free will and your choice to worship the way YOU believe you should. As far as homosexuality is concerned, God does not condone sin and the reason it is sin is because it is bad for us, this is because it harms us through disease and several medical problems that will plague you and eventually kill you. God, through His Word warns us about things that will destroy us, not just the body, but the soul also. The First Amendment was never meant to have the twisted meaning that secularists have campaigned day and night to make it either! I suggest you go and read the writing of our founding fathers and you will discover what they really intended for America. It is very sad that so many people like yourself have been so brainwashed in our public schools. I went to public school, but I did something most do not, I thought for myself and went back in our history to learn what they were not teaching!

          • Dave

            Holly,

            If you went into a science class and said you were made by “god” they would laugh at you.

            The founding fathers were very clear they did not want state sponsered religion. Thomas Jefferson was one in particular who very clear on that point.

            If you believe in whatever version of Christianity that fits you like a glove, fine. Keep it to yourself and out of our government.

            Thanks!

          • Holly Fragoso

            NO, I will not keep it to myself….would it be profitable for me to answer to you or God?? The Bible clearly states in Phil 2 :9-11 Therefore, God elevated him to the place of highest honor and gave him the name above all other names, that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, in heaven and on earth and under the earth, and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father. Also you are so wrong, it was James Madison who introduced in session on June 8, 1789, http://www.revolutionary-war-and-beyond.com/james-madison-speech-june-8-1789.html … you don’t know history, you are a product of the secular, indoctrination, and brainwashing of the public school system. Also the government does not belong to you.

          • Dave

            The gov belongs to all of us and until every person is the exact same religion, yours does not belong anywhere near gov and thats why I will continue to oppose any religion’s intrusion into gov. And you are the product of Christian brainwashing and conservative propaganda. The first amendment is clear about the separaation of church and state. If you don’t like it… Saudi Arabia may be more to your liking.

          • Holly Fragoso

            No, like I said I have read up on all different points of view, you are the one brainwashed. I pity you because when it comes down to the end and you no longer have a choice it will land you in hell for eternity…..BTW eternity is for ever not just a lifetime but from that time on, no ending. Your eternal soul is so much more important then weather or not religion is in politics. Your concern should be eternal not temporal!! Actually you trying to shut people up, Saudi would be better for you, the women their can be beat on legally!! And they won’t fight with you, seeing you’er the kind to keep women down.

          • Dave

            How am I trying to shut people up? You are lying… Pure and simple. You want a state sponsored religion and I am saying no. History has proven that state sponsored religion is a gad thing. I pity you.

          • Holly Fragoso

            No, I pity you….you are sooooooooo lost!! You don’t read very well, I never said anything about state sponsored anything!! Wake up and stop drinking the O’aid!! This is what you wrote, ‘yours does not belong anywhere near gov and thats why I will continue to oppose any religion’s intrusion into gov.’ in a word you are saying shut up, you don’t have a say because I am a Christian…..that is being judgmental and racist. How about this, I say you don’t have a voice in politics because you are prejudice of Christian people. Hypocrite!

          • Dave

            BS, your side supports using religious doctrine to prevent same sex marriage. Law makers do not put their hand on the US Constitution to enforce the bible. The Bible is not a factual document, otherwise it would be under “Non-Fictiono” in the library. Just because you cite a biblical passage, that means nothing.
            I am critical of all religions that is true, because atheists never come knocking at my door because they want to tell me “NOT” to believe. Nor do they petition or protest to have a church/temple/synague removed Get it? On the other hand… The religious try to impose their view of morality on the rest of us through law, they get all upset when the 10 Commandments is taken off of fed and state buildings and as in the state of NC, they activily are trying to make a state religion.
            It is you and the Christian right that are hypocrites… Jesus would never have wanted “Christianity” as it exists today. You complain about a “war on Christmas” yet Christmas is the only religious holiday that has a month lead up in the culture. If any other religions dares assert itself, you get all defensive… Afterall there is only limited room for this kind of con-game.
            Believe in whatever religion you wish, it is your right and I would never try and stop your right to do so. I choose not to believe in religion and I fight any attempt for force your “Christianity” down my throat just like I would fight the same if it were “Muslims” or “Jews” or whatever.

          • Peter

            One point there Dave, Mormons are most definitely NOT Christians. Joseph Smith has been proven to be a liar. Not ONE of his so-called ‘prophecies’ has ever come true, whereas many Biblical prophecies have been proven correct. As Jesus Himself said, “Many will come in My Name…do not be deceived”

          • Dave

            Peter, there is 19M people and a whole state that buy the moron nonsense like you buy the traditional Christian nonsense. I was told by some here that its not nice to say bad things about those who believe in god, no matter which fairytale it is of course… Isam though, you can say bad things about because all Muslims are exactly alike according to you. I need to break off friendships I have with Muslims because they will kill me at some point. Sheesh… I am sure you adhere to every word of the bible too

          • Peter

            Dave, you have said you are a critical thinker? Seriously my friend, I think you have proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that your critical thinking skills are very sadly lacking. :-(

          • Dave

            You could? Thats why you give no details but you let us know you “could”.
            That works…

        • Peter

          Dave, this is not racism! Many races embrace the evil that is i-slam. While many religions have committed atrocities in the past, there is only one that has committed over 20,000 such atrocities since 9/11, and that is i-slam. All other religions have only historical references to past inglorious battles, but i-slam’s ‘holy’ books are the only ones to declare absolute imperatives for all muslems to kill all Jews, Christians and any infidel who does not convert to i-slam, right up to what they declare as ‘the last day’. Learn the truth.

          • Dave

            Today, Islam is where Christianity was during the Inqusition and the Crusades. Have you read the Old testiment of the bible? That is one hateful book.
            That does not mean everyone buys into the radical version.

          • Peter

            Dave, please, you have said you are a critical thinker? Think about this: “Muhammad said that “the
            last hour would not come unless the Muslims will fight against the Jews
            and the Muslims would kill them until the Jews would hide themselves
            behind a stone or a tree and a stone or a tree would say: Muslim, or the
            servant of Allah, there is a Jew behind me; come and kill him” (Sahih
            Muslim 6985).” Please note the tense here, it is vitally important. It is written in the present tense as a recurring imperative for all muslems to follow. It has no direction for ‘radicals only’. I have indeed read the OT, but again, tense is vitally important. The OT is a record of past occurrences. It does NOT declare an ongoing violent imperative for all Jews or Christians to follow, whereas i-slam declares ALL followers of muhammad must kill all Jews. It goes on to say that after the Jews have all been killed, they must kill all ‘people of the book’ (Christians), then kill all infidels who refuse to convert to i-slam. Whether so-called ‘moderates’ want to buy into these imperatives or not is utterly irrelevant, they must commit to the imperative by either explicitly or complicitly supporting it. They have zero choice in the matter.

          • Dave

            Again, read the old testiment and get back to me.

          • Peter

            Dave, I have. Read the quran and get back to me. You are NOT thinking critically with the above statements!

          • Dave

            Good so you know that:
            God kills 70,000 innocent people because David ordered a census of the people (1 Chronicles 21).

            God also orders the destruction of 60 cities so that the Israelites can live there. He orders the
            killing of all the men, women, and children of each city, and the looting of all
            of value (Deuteronomy 3).

            He orders another attack and the killing of “all the living creatures of the city: men and women, young, and old, as well as oxen sheep, and asses” (Joshua 6).

            In Judges 21, He orders the murder of all the people of Jabesh-gilead, except for the virgin girls who were taken to be forcibly raped and married. When they wanted more virgins, God told them to hide alongside the road and when they saw a girl
            they liked, kidnap her and forcibly rape her and make her your wife! Just about every other page in the Old Testament has God killing somebody! In 2 Kings 10:18-27,God orders the murder of all the worshipers of a different god in their very own church! In total God kills 371,186 people directly and orders another 1,862,265 people murdered.

            That is some pretty nasty stuff, that is the history of the bible, not so kind and gentle. Don’t get me wrong, I believe all religion is nonsense but the Christian religion is every bit as blood thirsty as Islam. Hell, in America, the Christian religion was used to persecute the indogenious people and wipe them out. Hitler was God’s “Super-warrior” in Mein Kempf for the Christian faith. There is no bigger manipulating force than “god” to get otherwise sane people to act like idiots.

          • Jana

            Dave, Are you judging God?

          • Dave

            The bible was written by men, not god (if god exists) and I am definately judging those men and the men that came after that created the “New” testiment for marketing Christianity purposes. It doesn’t matter what religion you cling to… Its all a business. The Catholic Church are the most wealthy land owners in the world, “Brave” Jihadist leaders within the Muslim religion cry and beg for mercy just like the cowards they are when faced with death and amass great fortunes off their followers while they are alive. I studied all religions during my spiritual journey and found all of them to be not worth my time except for bhuddism… They seem the least judgmental on others who do not belong to their faith. But seeing as I like free will… I do not belong to any religion because they are ALL man-made creations and people are easily manipulated who buy the fairytales. If you need religion, its fine.. just keep it out of the Gov and we have no issues.

          • http://personalliberty.com/ Bob Livingston

            Dear Dave,

            You write: “The bible was written by men, not god (if god exists)” He exists, as you will learn on Judgement Day, whether you believe it or not. The Bible was written by God through men.

            “All Scripture is breathed out by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness,”–2 Timothy 3:16

            Best wishes,
            Bob

          • Dave

            Were you there Bob to witness this epiphany? No… A man tells you that “god” spoke to him through his words and because it is in the bible, you take it as absolute even though the bible was written decades, even centuries after the “supposed” events happened.

            I need a little more than that. That is why “faith” and “fact” have different meanings.

            I do not believe in “Judgement” day or the “Rapture”… That is just to keep everyone in line. What if you are wrong Bob? So the poor slob who doesn’t know Jesus in the jungles of S. America is going to hell in some Christian circles because that person has not accepted Christ as his savior. And isn’t it so interesting that none of the major players in power of the biblical stories are women? Kinda matched the sexist times when the bible was written in doesn’t it?

            How do rational people believe that Eve spoke to a snake and because she ate an apple, Adam and Eve get kicked out of paradise? Or that all animals fit on an ark for a long time (including dinasaurs apparently) and none were eaten by the other? When was the last time you spent time in a whale?

            Christains believe you must accept Jesus as lord to go to heaven. The Jews believe they are the chosen people and the Prophet Mohammad is the true son of god and the Koran is the only holy book actually written by god. All the others are “false” prophets. Everyone thinks that theirs is correct and therefore, all the others are wrong by definition.

            If people feel the need to feel superior over others and use religion to do it, its fine for them. I don’t play that game. I live my life… I don’t cheat anyone, I love and support my family and friends and I give back to others in need when I can. Those are “human” principals and if not being Christian means I don’t get to heaven (if it even exists and you are not just fertilizer) then I I don’t care to go.

          • http://personalliberty.com/ Bob Livingston

            Dear Dave,

            You write: “Were you there Bob to witness this epiphany? No… A man tells you that
            “god” spoke to him through his words and because it is in the bible, you
            take it as absolute even though the bible was written decades, even
            centuries after the “supposed” events happened.” No. I look at the evidence presented in the Bible and God’s creation.

            You write: “I need a little more than that. That is why “faith” and “fact” have different meanings.” “Now faith is the assurance of things hoped for, the conviction of things not seen.” Heb. 11:1 Undoubtedly, faith is necessary, as is a belief in something bigger than yourself.

            You write: “I do not believe in “Judgement” day or the “Rapture”… That is just to keep everyone in line.” Irrelevant.

            You write: “What if you are wrong Bob?” Then what have I lost? A better question is, what if you’re wrong?

            You write: “So the poor slob who doesn’t know Jesus in the jungles of S. America is
            going to hell in some Christian circles because that person has not
            accepted Christ as his savior.” That is God’s call.

            You write: “And isn’t it so interesting that none of the major players in power of the biblical stories are women?” This demonstrates your lack of knowledge of the Bible. It makes your next sentence a non sequitur.

            You write: “How do rational people believe that Eve spoke to a snake and because she ate an apple, Adam and Eve get kicked out of paradise” She did not eat an apple.

            You write: “Or that all animals fit on an ark for a long time (including dinasaurs apparently) and none were eaten by the other” You demonstrate a misunderstanding of God’s power. As the creator of the universe, and therefore the creator of animal instincts and the laws of physics, etc., it is an easy task to understand how this happened.

            You write: “When was the last time you spent time in a whale?” Non sequitur.

            You write: “Christains believe you must accept Jesus as lord to go to heaven” That is true.

            You write: “The Jews believe they are the chosen people and the Prophet Mohammad is
            the true son of god and the Koran is the only holy book actually written
            by god” It is true that the Jews believe they are the chosen people, but that does not make it so. You are mistaken that Jews believe the Mohammad is the son of god or believe in the Koran and its teachings, which are anathema to Judaism. So you are wrong here.

            You write: “Everyone thinks that theirs is correct and therefore, all the others are wrong by definition.” That may or may not be so.

            You write: “If people feel the need to feel superior over others and use religion to
            do it, its fine for them. I don’t play that game. I live my life… I
            don’t cheat anyone, I love and support my family and friends and I give
            back to others in need when I can. Those are “human” principals and if
            not being Christian means I don’t get to heaven (if it even exists and
            you are not just fertilizer) then I I don’t care to go.” That is fine for you and certainly your choice. However, I think you will one day be singing a different tune. I hope it happens before your fate is sealed.

            In the meantime, you gain no friends by ridiculing those who believe in God.

            Best wishes,
            Bob

          • Dave

            So pointing out “inconsistancies” is bad? I can’t tell you how many religious friends try to tell me how all people that do not believe are “misguided”. So much more ridicule goes on by the religions with the power of TV networks and their pundits.

            Just because you are Christian or Muslim does not give you ANY authority on the subject of right or wrong or for that matter, give you any moral superiority. You believe… I am happy for you. You can’t find what you need internally so religion gives you what you lack. Very nice…

            I choose to have the self-confidence and self-awareness not to need someone else tell me that I am a good person. I know I am. I also do not fear dying or that my death might be the end of my conscienceness. It is what it is…. If I am wrong about god? Oh well… I live with the consequences and god will judge me on how I live my life… If you and the other religious folks that use religion for their own political agenda are wrong then you will push up the same daisies I do but I feel better about my life because I don’t try and force my religion on others no matter how subtly it is done and help create divides among people.

            Just like your sly way of warning me of my impending “damnation” because I don’t believe the way you do. But you would not be a conservative if you did not try and force your way onto others by very sneaky means. Enjoy your religion as I enjoy my critical thinking freedom and not to be beholden to religious figures that are manipulated by men.
            Its a choice we all make. I am happy with mine as I am sure you are happy with yours.

          • Jana

            Dave, I have answered you below.

          • Dave

            I don’t see your reply.

          • Jana

            Go down in this post 13 down.

          • Peter

            Dave, you choose to live as a Buddhist or as an atheist? That is your right to choose to believe that way. Under i-slam you have no such right. You must either convert to i-slam or be killed. There is supposedly a ‘middle way’ under i-slam, to pay the ‘jizya’ which is basically a non-believer’s tax, but after paying it and admitting to being a non-muslem, you will receive nothing from muslems. No assistance, no legal status, nothing. If someone were to rape your wife or child, nobody would care or lift a finger, because you are not a muslem. This is the same way Hitler treated the Jews in Nazi Germany, and it is most definitely what you have to look forward to as muslems take over the west by politically correct stealth and massive breeding. The reality is that muslems will accept the ‘jizya’ from you, but then they will kill you, as is happening right now in Syria and other parts of the piddle east.

            As for keeping religion out of the Govt, I’m afraid that is a massive lie perpetrated by arrogant and hypocritical atheists.
            All human beings are colored by their own beliefs, however atheists seem to be the only ones who are ‘allowed’ to take those beliefs into any area of Govt under the false pretext of the separation of Church and State!
            The reality is that every person who stands for public office brings with him/her their upbringing and life experiences, which may stem from any religious or atheist background.
            No person can realistically separate themselves from their life experiences. They are the sum of those experiences and beliefs.
            Therefore to infer that somehow only atheists have the ‘right’ to stand for public office because they are the only ones whose credentials are acceptable, is the height of arrogance and hypocrisy when you measure the fact that a republic of individual states has the right to be governed, ‘of the people, by the people, for the people’, not just some people, such as atheists.

          • Peter

            Dave, again, read the tense. The OT/Torah is a history book. It speaks ONLY of past events. Were they bad? Absolutely. However they are CLEARLY past tense. The quran’s imperative to followers of muhammed are also extremely clear. It is written solely in the present tense, as absolute dictates for all muslems, from the time it was written, not just for radicals, but ALL muslems to kill all Jews, Christians and infidels who refuse to convert to i-slam. That is a very clear and significant difference. The Bible does not dictate that followers of either Judaism or Christianity should kill anyone in this day and age. In fact the opposite. If you are a critical thinker as you claim, surely you can see the significance of this very marked difference?

      • Jana

        It really isn’t that all of them are bad people. A lot of them really do come here for a better life, but then they do colonize and not assimilate which when they are in a good community is great, but when a few radicals move in and take over, they take over their youth. This is when it gets bad. Our youth in ANY culture is so easily manipulated if the parents are not active in their children’s lives.

        I will say that traveling through Houston, TX we were searching for a radio station and ran across a Muslim station. It was a radical Muslim station as they were stating that they considered the moderate Muslims prime targets for them to control. We couldn’t believe what we were hearing. They were targeting the moderate Muslims.

        This is why we don’t hear Muslims speak out against the radical Muslims very often. They live in fear of retaliation.

        • Dave

          Some Muslims do speak out against radicals but we just don’t see it or hear it enough. Anyone who is an extremist within any group, religious, political, ethnic or any other group needs to be kicked out of that group and that group needs to make it clear by words AND actions that they do not support the extremists. Otherwise, prejudices can take over.

          • Peter

            Dave and Jana, unfortunately you are looking at a smokescreen. Some so-called moderate muslems may make a few seemingly contrite statements, however when push comes to shove, their religion dictates that they always defer to fellow muslems and never with the infidels. This is absolute fact and easily determined from their ‘scriptures’. Therefore all muslems are either explicitly or complicitly involved in both colonization and/or violent overthrow, whichever becomes applicable at the time.

          • Jana

            Peter, I have studied some of the Qur’an and some of the Hadiths. In order to be a good Muslim, sadly to say, you are actually right.
            I know a couple of Muslims who aren’t ‘good’ Muslims and hopefully they never will be.

          • Jana

            I know a lot about Muslims and their culture that isn’t so pretty.They hide behind Sharia Law to follow some of this culture that is repulsive to us in the Western World. This is why I would not want Sharia Law over here.

    • Ron r

      Well there you have it. Someone actually using Glenn (Elmer Gentry) Beck as a credible source. My god the comedy never ends.

  • BarrackHussein

    The American taxpayer (1%) are footing the bill for their ‘education’… er a college experience. They are probably on welfare, too. I think they should be able to travel… last stop Gitmo.
    Of course, they need to take a ham sandwich… I hear the dining dining experience has dropped off.

  • Bernie

    Bush was Not the Peesident between 2001 – 2012 as your OP-Ed claims. It sea that the quickest method to resolve any issue these days is attack President Bush, wake up, 2nd . President Obama bent down and kissed the hand is the Saudi Prince , a gesture that MUSLIMS do, he as your OP Ed points out us totally responsible for the terrorist cells that are thriving in America . One day this country will wake up too late to stop the take over and destruction of it by these fanatical terrorists . That is their desire and President Obama and his cronies are handing America over to them gleefully, our middle class is disappearing because of the terrible policies of Obama and the left wingnuts , it won’t be long before America is a third world power…

    • http://www.rainforestpress.com/ Randy Dutton

      He wrote “for most of the period”, which is technically correct.

    • http://personalliberty.com/ Bob Livingston

      Dear Bernie Ewell,

      You write: “Bush was Not the Peesident (sic) between 2001 – 2012 as your OP-Ed claims.” Bush’s term was 2000-2008, so yes he was, as any thinking person would know.

      Best wishes,
      Bob

  • mark

    More fear-mongering to manipulate all the scaredy-cats and pants-wetters of America. You forgot to mention that the Saudis also want to take away everybody’s guns. And put us all in FEMA camps – run by the UN! Be sure ot put that in your next article. Unrelenting fear, hate, and paranoia three hundred and sixty-five days a year – don’t conservatives and libertarians have anything else to sell? Anything? And they wonder why they can’t win the White House?

  • securityman

    this is what i have been saying. obummer is going to try and turn this country into a muslim place. the more he gets in here ,the more votes he can get to do just that. i know that ,even legalized, they shouldn’t be able to vote for a few years,but that hasn’t stopped the obummer yet,has it?the law of the land ,to him, is what he says it is! myself, i will keep my guns loaded and ready……

  • http://www.rainforestpress.com/ Randy Dutton

    How many of the 34,139 enrolled students are actually attending classes? How many have over-extended their visas?

  • Brady Boby
    • Jana

      This is the problem when any group or ethnicity comes in to our country. They bring in their ways and laws with them, the very things they are running FROM.
      We definitely don’t want Sharia Law here. It is not just laws, it is a justice system, banking system, lifestyle, what you can or cannot wear or even eat or touch.

      • Brady Boby

        This is interesting but go to Wikipedia and put in Sharia law and read about “Tax” and it is exactly what Obama keeps saying. It states that the wealthy should have to give 2.5% of their wealth back to be given to the poor “spreading the wealth around” It states this 2.5%% rate can be changed depending on what the government wants. When I read it I thought it sounds just like Obama I think people would find this interesting if they just read about it. Also when Obama said “you didn’t build that” at any rate it was interesting to read. One more thing how it talked about Muslims and the rules of Usury how they are against banking but even more so how they are against insurance they see it as a form of gambling and of course Muslims have been excluded from paying into Obama Care (it says they have to prove they do not use Insurance) I don’t know how they can prove this when they are required to have auto insurance, have you seen all the Muslims taxi drives in New York Alone? lol

        • Jana

          Have you also noticed how the Boston Bombers mother is blaming the United States for taking her sons away from her. She says she wished they had never come to America. WHAT A JOKE.

          When they came to America she stole over a $1,000. worth of clothing from a clothing store in Boston. Her sons were on welfare, and were sent to school here on our tax dollars. How do they thank us? By bombing us.

          We wish they had never come to America more than she does. But, I do hope she comes back, because when she does she will be arrested! This whole family seems worthless.

          • Brady Boby

            yes did you hear the older son was living in a 450 thousand dollar house and they are not saying where he got the money to pay for this house.
            The mother they just found out 18 months before the bombing she was added to our terrorist list. Now they are saying her husband is coming back to American to have some medical work done.
            The store she stole the 1200 dollars worth of stuff is the same store that caught the pictures of the two bombers, isn’t that interesting.

  • Jana

    What I don’t understand is the other day when that man found the Boston Bomber in his boat half passed out that he didn’t do something about it himself. I would have gone back in the house and gotten my hair spray and bug spray and cayenne pepper and used all of it on him and then gotten his guns and tied him up with duct tape till the police got there. Maybe in Texas we do things differently.

    Oh, and before someone says what bug spray??? Well I have sprayed myself before and yes it made me sick and weak but I didn’t die.. I said I would spray him with it not pour it all on him. I am not cruel.

    • Dave

      We were not there.. The guy was probably freaked out and the word was they he may have explosives taped on his body so he most likely wanted to get away from him as soon as possible. We can all talk about what we would do, but until we are confronted with such a situation, its not realistic to say with any definitive word what any of us would do.

      • Jana

        Actually there are some things that you just know that you know that you know what you will do. I would do it.

        We need to start being as fearless as these terrorists. This is my country that they are trying to blow up and mess up.

        As soon as I heard that he saw his door to his boat house was open I thought go back in the house and get that stuff. Be prepared. Act immediately.

        • Dave

          I agree, we do need to show more courage in the face of these people but until you are truly faced with that situation and in the heat of that moment, can you really say? I would like to say I would have found him, and if he was half conscious (we don’t know exactly how lucid he was) I would have tied him up, stomped his face a bit as payback for the people dead and injured (especially that 8 year old boy) then called police but I have never been in that situation before so I can only speculate. If I was Police or an agent that dealt with these kinds of things regularly… I could say then what I would do with some confidence. If that is your line of work, then too bad it wasn’t your house he held up at then this ordeal could have been ordeal would have been done with sooner. This guy clearly has never had such an event happen in his life so he just got away and called police.

          • Jana

            My wonderful husband is a true warrior. He has taught me and our daughters a lot of survival techniques. Mostly how to stay out of trouble. He has told me, my neck is a swivel, use it to look around and know my surroundings. I practice that all of the time.

            If anything were to ever come up I would hope my husband is around but I have found that generally, that isn’t the case. When I told him what I would have done he said he knew that about me.

            It’s not my line of work, but I am a mama and I have been a Brownie Scout Leader. When you have 25 little girls you are looking out for, you become very protective and multi tasked very fast.

          • Dave

            I have one daughter…25 little girls? Can’t argue with you there… :-)

            Lets just hope neither of us have to be in that situation to test it. I know how to stay out of trouble and be aware of my surroundings too from traveling all over the country and life experience but clearly this is a different situation that you or I would typically see.

  • ridge runner

    This is what happens with political correctness and voting for democrat pukes time after time. Now the same fkg pukes in the Wh and in the DNC don’t want to abide for the wonderful health care the bastards placed on the American people, and the media slobbered over. The same fks that keep worshipping the madrass marxist and keep thing fascist/communist BS is so great. As usually Washington pukes make laws that is only for taxpayerrs not the elitist communist dictators.

  • Tracey

    Thanks you for covering this. Beck seemed to be the only one trying to get to the bottom of our unholy alliance with the Saudis.Obama is giving them the keys to the candy store.

  • Terry

    Saudi Arabia is a key U.S.friend in a part of the world where not many people
    like us. Some of their people may not like us and have consistently committed
    acts of war against us for decades, but that does not mean the Saudi Arabian
    government supports them. The Saudi Arabian government has consistently
    been a moderating influence in OPEC, has consistently increased oil production
    to improve supply and moderate price for U.S. We have benefited from being
    friends with Saudi Arabia, and they have benefited from being friends with us.
    We need to maintain this mutually beneficial friendship. We need for the
    Saudi Arabian government to maintain power and control over the radical
    elements of their society. Educating the best of their young people in fine
    American universities is key to instilling moderating western influences in
    Saudi Arabian society. We need to stick by Saudi Arabia and help them
    retain control over radical Muslims that are running rampant in other
    middle eastern countries that have changed governments recently.

    • Peter

      BS. Smokescreens and blunderbussing. Time to wake up my pretty!