Comments Subscribe to Personal Liberty News Feed Subscribe to Personal Liberty
 

U.S. Economy Stalls In First Quarter

April 29, 2011 by  

U.S. economy stalls in first quarterEconomic growth in the United States has encountered a significant setback, according to a new report from the Commerce Department.

In its initial estimate of the first three months of 2011, the government agency revealed that gross domestic product rose by a seasonally adjusted annual rate of 1.6 percent from January to March. This figure is significantly lower than the 3.1 percent pace of growth in the fourth quarter of 2010, and the slowest pace since last spring.

Rising prices on gasoline and food are believed to be the primary factors behind reduced consumer spending, according to media reports. In certain areas of the U.S., gas costs have exceeded $4 per gallon.

Furthermore, the most recent unemployment figures represent a lull in economic growth. On April 28, the Labor Department stated that the initial jobless claims increased by 25,000 in the week ended April 23. According to The Wall Street Journal, Dow Jones economists predicted that the jobless claims would fall by 8,000 during that same period.

During a press conference on April 27, Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke predicted that the unemployment rate would steadily improve throughout 2011, but the need to contain inflation would make rapid job growth nearly impossible.

“It’s not clear that we can get substantial improvements in payrolls without some additional inflation risk,” said Bernanke, quoted by Bloomberg.

Special To Personal Liberty

You Sound Off! is written by our readers and appears the last Wednesday of each month. If you would like to submit an article or letter to the editor for consideration for You Sound Off!, send it to yousoundoff@personalliberty.com by the Friday before the last Wednesday of the month. To be considered, a submission should be 750 words or less and must include the writer's name, address and a telephone number. Only the writer's name will be published. Anonymous submissions will not be considered.

Facebook Conversations

Join the Discussion:
View Comments to “U.S. Economy Stalls In First Quarter”

Comment Policy: We encourage an open discussion with a wide range of viewpoints, even extreme ones, but we will not tolerate racism, profanity or slanderous comments toward the author(s) or comment participants. Make your case passionately, but civilly. Please don't stoop to name calling. We use filters for spam protection. If your comment does not appear, it is likely because it violates the above policy or contains links or language typical of spam. We reserve the right to remove comments at our discretion.

Is there news related to personal liberty happening in your area? Contact us at newstips@personalliberty.com

  • TIME

    DUH, No really, I mean really, I can’t fathom why.

    Lets see there’s was Stim U LASS, oh let see devalue the dollar make the prices of all good rise.

    QE 1 take away the value of the dollar raise prices of all goods again.

    QE 2 Oh lets see devalue the dollar and make the price of everything rise again.

    UN employed well into the 20% Plus range as we have millions who have fallen off the UNE books, So they really don;t count as being UN empolyed right?
    So lets see the tricky Politicians and Media say it only shows as a 8.9%….REALLY – Oh just how clever is that hide the sausage trick?

    Then lets see oh we still are at war in the same places some guy named Obama said in 2007 he would have us out of in what was that again, oh yea 18 months or less.
    And Low and behold we are still there! And now in Lybia too!
    Oh how special; I just feel the LOVE and Warmth of a good lie.

    Oh let’s not forget Cash for Clunkers, oh MAN what a value to the American Tax payers! Only a how many {Hundreds of Billions} in loss… Oh dude Just feeling that LOVE again.

    Then there was oh yea that Housing bubble thingieee, lets see oh yea thats still in the craper, and with just 100,000 per month going into foreclosuer, I just feel that LOVE even MORE!

    WOW ~ with all this and even MORE the LOVE is just so, well its so, I just don’t have words for how much LOVE there is.
    No I am just with out words how special this all is.

    But hey the Media said its all Rose’s & Cream so none of the bad stuff is real, right?

    • jimster

      You forgot: The federal government is getting larger which more people are collecting a paycheck without producing anything.

    • Bitter Libertarian

      You stole my Line1 LOL I was going to “DUH” them :)

      • TIME

        BL,
        Hey there even more to do the “DUH” Factor with.

        Hey really I just hit the tip of da ice berg.

        • http://none dave buls

          i’ve been unemployed for two months. i’m feeling the love right now!! i love being on unemployment insurance, which is a third of what i was making. i love it when every firm i speak with has 30 other people looking for a lowly job. i love it that my unemployment insurance is not enough to pay the bills, but if i don’t take it, i have nothing. i’ve sent out 70 resumes to 50 companies, no bites. 5 years ago, i could get a job in less than a day. i love that i’ve had the time to read up about the history of dozens of other countries which have tried heavy government control, and not one of them worked. but somehow, somehow, somehow, it should work here. i’ll love it even more when a politician will take my place, and realize what it’s like for a man to be unemployed, and the fear that imposes on you. oh yeah, none of them want to do that. they have their jobs which do nothing, and pay alot. now i know why some people go ballistic and start going crazy. why don’t they just put me in jail? if i’m unemployed for much longer, i will lose my house, and have no shelter. than, 3 hots and a cot behind bars would look really tasty. thanks alot, federal government. i wasn’t really overjoyed that much about usama bin laden, because i have to wake up everyday and not have a paycheck. it wouldn’t be so bad if i didn’t have to pay bills. talk about taking away people’s freedom. just intentionally make them poor, and line your pockets at the same time.

    • concerned grandma

      I get ticked when the lying POTUS states *Are you a “taker”? If you’ve been even halfway successful, apparently our president thinks so. During a town hall address last week, Barack Obama said, “[My opponents'] basic view is that no matter how successful I am, no matter how much I’ve taken from this country … somehow I now have no obligation to people who are less fortunate than me and I have no real obligation to future generations to make investments so that they have a better (life).”
      The free loading zero contributors who suckle at the government teat are the ‘takers’. Since when should I, my children and grandchildren pay other people’s cell phone bills, mortgages, subsidize their vehicle purchases, legal fees, etc.? This country has gone absolutely crazy.

      • Bus

        The “Professor” has no concept of basic economics. Producers are not takers unless they work for the government. Bill Gates has to produce a product that people want or need, and they are willing to trade some cash for his product. He isn’t a taker, he has used his abilities to give to the country, increasing the wealth and productivity of the country plus provided thousands of jobs for his workers.
        Only government workers have the power to force you to accept their wares whether you want them or not. They don’t have to be good at what they do because they are protected by their monopolistic status and the enforcement power of the government.
        Sadly Obama doesn’t understand any of this, being a pupil of socialist dogma, and frieghtenly most American voters can’t understand it either so they cry out “Give us a King” because they want their needs taken care of without the messiness of capitalism.

    • http://www.newwinestuies.com Donald from Oakland, Ia

      We cannot forget the end goal of the Obama machine (Marxist, Socialist, Communist, Maoist, Che-ist? what ever)the ends justify the means! Their “ends” is to COLLAPSE the USA and its constitutional law set to replace it with the (Marxist, Socialist, Communist, Maoist, Che-ist? what ever) form of government. Can we watch what is going on and NOT see the pattern? Can we watch the Prez write laws from his desk in the Oval office and bypass congress and NOT think “dictator?” Can we watch dear ol’ Ben Bernancke as fed person destroy the nation money supply to undermine our way of life and our future retirement? We need to go back to the basics of early America and tell those “Globalists” to take their beliefs back to HELL with them!

  • Robin from Arcadia, IN

    A stalled economy! Imagine that! What are they thinking? Who can go anywhere, buy anything with the price of gas and groceries soaring? Obama should be thanking the ‘birthers’ for all the media coverage because it has taken our minds off the pain at the pump. He is a fraud, just like the birth certificate he produced.

  • http://PersonalLibertyDigest Randy 131

    This report is going to be considered a good one compared to those to come the rest of this year and into the next. Obama’s policies and agenda are now going to be revealed just how bad they were and are for our economy by these reports for the remainder of his Presidency. The only recovery this nation has had, was by the ones who benefitted from Obama’s stimulus programs, which are over and gone now, so those few now can join the rest of the economy and can go back into recession like most of it has remained. Recovery, despite what Obama and the Democrats want the American people to believe, can not be determined by a few international corporations beginning to make a profit again, but only by the American people getting their jobs back, which even though Obama and the Democrats have increased the governments employees tremendously, the private sector employees have staid unemployed. People are calling this the Great Recession, but after Obama is out of office and the Democrats no longer control any part of the government, which then Obama and the Democrats can no longer put a spin on the economy, this period, because of the high unemployment numbers, the length of time of joblessness, and the stagnation of the economy as shown by the GNP, will be known as the Second Great Depression, because it’s going to get worse before the Republicans can take over all parts of the government, and the time it will take them to turn the economy and country around, people will have to suffer, before they can lead us back into prosperity.

  • Doc Sarvis

    The slow recovery is a true reminder of how big a blow the economy took in 2008. To think the economy would bounce right back at a fast rate is pure folly.

    • Al Sieber

      What recovery Doc? we haven’t even hit bottom yet. the light at the end of the tunnel you see is a on coming train.

      • Doc Sarvis

        I’m not sure why you say that. I know things are not great now but employment has gotten slightly better as has home sales, Ford just had their best sales year ever (or some statistic like that), some corporations are having record profits, and the stock market is rebounding. Certainly not out of the woods yet but why do you say we have not hit bottom yet?

        • Tom S

          I don’t trust a thing the stock market does or says. Wall Street is in Bin Bama’s pocket just like the unions. He can do what he wants, even the Department of Justice is under the control of his minions so he has no worries about being impeached. I hope to God the Republicans grow some larger cahones and stomp the crap out of the dumbocrats once and for all.

        • GeorgeE

          Doc,

          Let me try to explain. Many of us believe that we’re just around the corner from seeing hyper-inflation, rising interest rates, and a significantly devalued USD all due to the massive debt our government has run up, and continues to increase. When interest rates start to rise (primarily because the bond market is the only place the government can get the money it needs to fill the deficit gap……when the Fed stops printing more money, and foreign countries (China, Japan, etc.) don’t want to own any more USDs since they also believe the value will drop), the costs to finance everything will go up, probably a lot. This will certainly have a drastic dampening effect on the economy, and will likely throw it back into recession, or worse, depression……

          If the government had not spent all the money it did trying to stimulate the economy by investing heavily in non-productive sectors (like government programs, big company bail-outs, etc), but had instead spent its time trying to stimulate the productive private sector of the economy, things might have turned out better. In any case, if we don’t get a serious program on the board to balance the federal budget very soon, there will be no economy because the government will not have any money for anything except paying interest on the debt. What do you think will happen to the economy when Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, defense, highway programs, etc. etc. go away? This reality isn’t very far away.

          • http://none dave buls

            you’re right. economics is not rocket science, but the Fed Reserve has to have their Economics God Ben Bernanke calling the shots, so everyone will think that it takes a genious to make things happen, and we need to rely on him. if you leave most of economics alone, it works well. it is natural and very human to want to trade things. if left alone, natural forces make things work. when companies create fraud, inflate stocks, or create monopoly, you punish them, but not before. somehow, people’s thinking becomes muddied, and money is now used as a weapon. the problem is, most people just want to make a living, and have almost no backup to adjust for things like overtaxation and regulation. this socialist garbage, or whatever you call it, is like putting a bandaid on your arm, in the anticipation that you will cut yourself down the road. so mind bogglingly stupid.

        • http://?? Joe H.

          Doc,
          What the hell do you think is going to happen to the economy when gas hits 5.59 a gallon? Now think of 6.00 a gallon. That is what they are predicting by summers end! What comes after summer, Doc? Winter! What is needed during winter? Oil and power! What do you think the price of heating oil and electricity is going to be when gas hits 6.00 a gallon??? you aren’t gonna be able to buy a thing as you are going to be using all your money to pay for food, gas, electricity, and heat!!! Our economy is going to TANK and you better hope you ARE a Dr.!!!! you’re gonna NEED the pay of a neuro-surgeon to get by!!

          • GeorgeE

            Joe,

            Nice response. Direct and simple for most people to relate to and understand. Wish I had put my response in those terms. Thanks.

          • s c

            Joe H, ‘D’ hasn’t got a clue. He believes everything “God’s” gift to politics and economics [der Obummer] says. Most likely, he doesn’t have a choice in the matter, as progressives are ‘duty bound’ to suck up, brown nose and follow like lemmings (the new “integrity”).
            Der Obummer is a bottom-feeder. He’ll never pack the gear to do things right. He’s a hack theoretician. On a good day, he can’t think his way out of a wet paper sack. As for ‘D,” well, he’s cut from the same flawed cloth as der Obummer. He’s predictable. It’s almost as though his words are scripted. One can only hope that he doesn’t get paid much to submit his crapola in the direction of this website.

        • http://www.newwinestuies.com Donald from Oakland, Ia

          Has anyone ever taught you about the “crash” of 1920?” Never heard of it? Well, the crash of that year was as bad as 1929! why did we NOT hear of it? because the President chose to let the markets correct themselves and not interfere with them. Congress fought that ‘tooth and nail’ but he held his ground and won the day. within 6 months things bottoms out and starts back up and HISTORY as they say is made Roaring 20′s is the results of NO GOVERNMENT SPENDING in a market crisis.
          NUMBER 1 in the mind of the Globalist is to collapse the sovereign governments that won’t play by their rules

        • http://www.newwinestuies.com Donald from Oakland, Ia

          make a graph and track the money supply by the Fed through Bush and O’bummer governments to date and the ups and downs of the markets. When the Fed talks of stopping the pumps,{can you say PRINT MORE MONEY?} the markets immediately starts down hill. It would seem that the markets respond to the Fed printing money and not the profitability of the corporate world at large. Can anyone say DEPRESSION – more roaring 30′s?So far Fed has pumped in about 4 TRILLION $, as long as the money keeps coming, the markets seem to respond in a positive way. The 2nd Quantitative Easing has been completed and the markets immediately started down. Talk of a new QE3 is being talked of now, the markets start responding in an upward manner! Trillions at a time cannot KEEP going on! Collapse of the money supply and consequently our way of life and living go with it.
          YOU ARE READY AREN’T YOU? United States unions have called for the collapse of all banking and corporations that don’t exist according to their game plan! So the government AND the UNIONS seem to be in the same team and game.

      • Doc Sarvis

        I know we are involved in too many foreign conflicts of our own (2/3s Bush’s making) and we have way too much debt (Cheney was all for debt). Is that what you are talking about?

        • http://comcast the fisherman

          You are so right.Instead of planing to get are self out of trouble and correct what is going on,we go for the small stuff. Who is going to walk the horse or ride the horse. We have to wake up and smell the roses and move on . We are not perfect and we do make mistakes . Correct what we did wrong and move on. Worry what we have to do not what others are saying or doing .

        • Vigilant

          “I know we are involved in too many foreign conflicts of our own (2/3s Bush’s making) and we have way too much debt (Cheney was all for debt). Is that what you are talking about?”

          I sure hope you’re not a real doctor; I wouldn’t trust you to put a band aid on me, when you couldn’t find your own backside with a GPS, a flashlight and both hands.

          How about a little honesty, for a change? “2/3 Bush’s making” and 100% continuation by Obama. Way too much debt going into Obama’s reign, for sure, and the King MULTIPLIES that debt instead of attacking it head on.

          Is that what you are talking about?

        • http://?? Joe H.

          Doc,
          Wrong again! 3/3 is nobummers fault as he has had almost three years to bring our troops home like he promised if he was elected!! It’s all his dog N pony now!!!

    • Lastmanstanding

      I wish I could be there to hear you begging for your life when they haul you away kicking and screaming.

    • Robin from Arcadia, IN

      Doc… The slow recovery is now Barry’s problem. He needs to fix it. What he is doing is not helping.

      • Doc Sarvis

        I thought all of you wanted the government to stay out of the economy; i.e. let the free market handle things. So now you need the President to fix it all. Make up your minds.

        • Robin from Arcadia, IN

          Doc… He’s the one putting himself in that position. He wants people to think of him as their savior. I think government needs to butt out of a lot of things. I think you missed my point; Barry blames everything on someone else. It’s his mess now. He owns it.

          • http://deleted Claire

            Yes, it is his “mess” now. He owns it, just like all future presidents. Future presidents always acquire the mess of the last administration. It has been like this for decades.

          • Vigilant

            Robin, “Doc” didn’t miss the point at all. He thinks he’s being cute with word games again. Seems to be a pettu obssession of his.

            “Doc,” the president fixes it by doing just that: getting government out of the economy.

          • Vigilant

            Make that “petty” obssession.

        • Al Sieber

          Doc, there’s not much manufacturing left in this country, it’s all over seas now. and the Fed. Reserve keeps printing up money, so how is the economy getting better?

          • http://www.newwinestuies.com Donald from Oakland, Ia

            Donald from Oakland, Ia says:
            May 3, 2011 at 4:17 pm
            make a graph and track the money supply by the Fed through Bush and O’bummer governments to date and the ups and downs of the markets.
            {SEE THE REST OF THIS ARTICLE ABOVE}

        • Michael J.

          Doc Sarvis,
          You describe an economy slowly on the rebound, while others desribe a failing president and his failing policies. Truth is that Obama is suceeding beyond the elites who sponsor him’s wildest dreams of destroying the United States from within. The last few impedements that blocked the path of NWO world domination, including sacking the U.S. and middle east dictators is at least half way complete.

          For those still caught up in the left-right paridigm, know that you bring a smile to the faces of the elitist who realize that while right and left squabble amongst themselves over petty issues, they, the unelected, nameless, faceless trillionaires are left to perform their self serving task under the cover of darkness, undaunted by the sunshine that wouldst betray them.

          Cast off your pink panties and the thought of leftness or rightness, and together forge anew as Americans if you desire freedom for yourselves and offspring.

          • Al Sieber

            Thanks Michael, but Doc will never get it.

  • Bitter Libertarian

    First you have to ask yourself if its so obvious to us (the ground troops) that things are NOT improving overall…WHY is it not obvious to the goons at the top?

    • Tom S

      Simple………the “goons at the top don’t give a damned pure and simple. As long as their personal wealth is untouched, they’re happy.

      • Bitter Libertarian

        If you are correct, and I believe you are, then what is the only Logical cource of action for the American People THEY are giving us!?

      • Robin from Arcadia, IN

        Tom S. Are the goons the government or the mean wealthy elite?

  • tONY

    Here is the real plan. Obama has the Fed Reserve printing money at a rate that has destroyed the Gold Standard. For each dollar printed everyone in circulation devalues. We are the world’s reserve currency, so we can print it, but the rest of the world is getting pissed and refuses to buy out Bonds, thus we bought our own bonds last year to pay our debt with more printed money from the F Res. That itself is a ponzi scheme, when it comes crashing down we will have hyper inlfation like the Germans had after WWI. The dollar will be worthless, the entitled will scream for a saviour, society will degrade quickly, then OBAMA the Saviour will tell us we must do away with the Dollar and start over. The catch, we will get 10 cents on the dollar or less and the WEALTH OF OUR COUNTRY WILL BE DESTROYED IN ONE FAIL SWOOP, SOCIALIZING US AS HE HAS PLANNED ALL ALONG. WAKE THE F UP EVERYONE BEFORE IT’S TO LATE.

    • pete

      tOny,

      Back when I was in college (the early 1980′s) the thinking was it’s better to owe the money to ourselves than to owe it to somebody else !.

      That’ in reference to the national debt ! So I reckon the Fed Reserve/Treasury just owes the money to themselves. That’s probably why they are charging themselves zero interest ….

      • Michael J.

        pete,
        Best listen to Tony because he’s right on the money. (pun intended)

    • Michael J.

      tONY,
      Agree 1,000%… Glad to see others get it!

  • Wayne Wathen

    While the economy may have stalled your friends in the oil and gas companies didn’t. BP made $5.48 billion in profits the first quarter while Exxon made “only” $10.67 billion. And yet, your republican friends in Congress continue to give millions of our taxpayers money to the oil and gas industry in subsidies and you wonder why gas prices are so high and blame the wrong person. Last I looked, Obama was not on the board of either BP or Exxon. If the republican Congress really want to lower the deficit why do they continue to give money away to those already making billions in profits?

    • Lastmanstanding

      Wayne…i could tell you how much BP gave to obama in campaign donations to get elected but, your so smart I’m sure you will know exactly where to look.”

      your last question…both parties give money to the “greedy oil co.’s” because the greedy politicains need “campaign contributions.”

    • GeorgeE

      Wayne,

      I’m really tired of hearing liberals use this line. The fact is that subsidies given to the oil and gas industry are less than subsidies given to other industries, like the “green” industry which I expect you support. These oil and gas subsidies were originally provided to incentivize oil companies to do more drilling in the US. (Many of us think this is important to help keep the price of oil and gas under control while creating good jobs in this country.) Most of that drilling and exploration is done by small independent oil and gas companies, not the mega-sized companies you mentioned. However, in the interest of getting our federal budget in balance quickly we (conservatives and libertarians) will agree to drop the oil and gas subsidies if you liberals will agree to drop subsidies to your favorite industries. In fact, we will go farther. We want to drop all subsidies altogether. And as far as which federal programs should be cut to balance the budget, I propose an immediate across-the-board cut of 42% (or whatever the amount has to be) to balance the budget. Then we can fight like cats and dogs, if we have to, over how to divide up the expenditures. I’ll bet that clears a lot of minds over just how important many of these do-gooder government programs really are.

  • http://PersonalLibertyDigest Confoundme once but not twice

    Randy..After all`s been said ( done ? ) that does ‘ tell it like it is ‘…. Now, would you be so kind as to inform me and the rest of us Slow learners…just exactly How the very Sharp Republicans are going to ‘turn this country around ‘and pull it out of the big hole it is in ..once They ? are B.A.C.K in POWER Again ? Remember what a ‘fine kettle of Fish’ they left this country in when they held the reins for the Eight Years previous to B.O ? They left us with an empty pot and deep in debt,( and with two uncalled for Wars that have a ‘no win no end ‘) in sight. Maybe if you Repubs. stopped Standing in the way of everything that looks like it might Work for the good of This nation…us out-of-work Citizens would be feeling some kind of warmth and consider Letting You return for another whack at us. No Solutions forthcoming ..Other than constant nagging that accomplishes Nothing ? Put some Repub. candidates out here that is believable ( other than the retreads and throw-backs from the last go-round )and maybe we would be more open to the idea. As it stands now, This Country is fed up with Both the Democratic And the Republican Party. For both have proven to be better at ‘in-house’ squabbling than at Working for a Solution to Put this countrys` Citizens Back to Work. Think about it ? Or do we Put an Independent in Charge…If Russ Fiengold,Sen.Wisconsin would consider it, He would be the perfect choice for POTUS… [also Ron Paul ] THEY could bring such a refreshing change from all this endless bickering we have seen, thus far.. & YES ! B.O. Has to Shape up or Ship OUT. Promises do not pay the grocery bill. Quit Making WARS without End and Start making Peace would be a perfect Start. Stop appointing more War-mongers into ‘office’ And Quit the war Games with American lives. I Know I am not alone in my concerns. I wish There was something I could do that would help turn this bad situation around, I Would. Any suggestions, Anyone ?

    • http://?? Joe H.

      confound,
      Do you really believe if we pull all our troops back to the US and talk nice that everything is going to be hunky-dory with every country around the world in connection to us??? Like North Korea will all of a sudden change their mind and not want to launch an ICBM up our collective assETTS?? or all the muslim countries will give up on their quest to hasten the comming of the seventh mahdi??? If you truly believe that, then tell me what you are drinking or smoking so I can avoid it!!!

  • Nail Buster

    the oil companies made huge profits! but aganist what finichal base? how many billions do they have invested in leases, equipment, people, real estate and the average profit is only 8%, what about GE with the billions they made and paid NO TAX!

    • Ellen

      True. And, the oil companies’ per-gallon profit is less than the per-gallon tax the govt takes. That is after the oil companies had to find and drill for the oil, take all financial risks in doing so, and employee Americans to do the work. Let’s keep this in perspective and stop believing more govt ‘evil’ industry talk.

  • Rennie

    The boost in retail sales was due to gasoline price increases, even though they ignore gasoline prices in the inflation number. Is anyone surprised? If so, read contemporary financial reports/journals/statistics/magazines from the mid to late 1930′s, teh numbers and government spending are timed to look good right before the next Presidential election, then in hindsight, revisions show economic conditions worse than previously “supposed”.

    • Bitter Libertarian

      The reason they dont include Oil is because its used as an inflation report Buffer.

      They make the rules & reports so they manipulate what number they report. If you added the increases of EVERY item that was directly affected by the Federal reserves devaluation scheme, the Inflation % would register significantly higher.

      The Real reason that Oil is going up is not due to greedy oil companies (not saying they arent greedy.) Oil is prided in Dollars….
      In reality right now if you moved the dollar index back to 100 the price of OIL would drop to somewhere between $50 – 60.00/bbl. If that were to happen the Euro would drop in value. The Arabs arent going to take one penny less then what the currencies “average” out to.

      Want oil price to go down? Tell the federal reserve to stop issuing currency, tell congress to restore Congressional currency control.

      • concerned grandma

        Tired of high gas prices?

        Talk to the administration and the EPA. 245 million acres of land by the BLM and won’t allow drilling. Offshore drilling banned. Multiple valid Gulf of Mexico leases are being withheld/blocked by the government. A pipeline to deliver oil from Canada is denied. America has fields that can be developed and deliver product within 6 months. The intention of this administration is to bring the cost of America’s resources to European levels. Back in 2008 President Obama declared his intention to curb US energy production. The ‘speculators’ are the POTUS, Steven Chu the Secretary of Energy, and the government agencies. They decided that Americans would not voluntarily cut coal, oil and gas usage so they would stall and ban production in our own country. Maybe they aren’t smart enough to understand the ripple effect on all products. Increased delivery costs alone will cause inflation. I wonder at what price you pay at the pump would ever satisfy their agenda. Heaven help us.

        • Bitter Libertarian

          Your still only looking at the symptoms…the FED’s loose monetary policy is the cause.

          • Carlucci

            And speaking of that, this just came into my email account. I put my money where my mouth is and donated. Could everyone of like mind on this blog chip in at least ten bucks?

            http://chooseliberty.org/atf_bb.aspx?pid=abnd3

        • pete

          Concerned grandma,

          I’m just going to get some solar panels and produce my own energy ! Then I got to change the cars to electric motors ! Charge the car on my own solar panels/windmill …..

          Their you go , no more need for gas !

          Solar Energy ! , go solar and save a bundle of $$$

        • http://deleted Claire

          Do not forget to include the Wall Street Speculators.

          • http://?? Joe H.

            Claire,
            Haven’t seen much of you lately. Hope all is well with your husband? Still in my prayers!!

          • http://deleted Claire

            JoeH–Bless your heart. I have been busy with the dogs-trying to train them better so that when I show them next week they will win! Here’s hoping! The German Shorthaired Pointer Nationals is in Oconomowoc, Wisconsin next week. I have Vinnie entered and my son’s pup. My husband wanted to go real bad this time, since next year it will be in Arizona and the year after in California. Bob goes into the hospital May 11th. They are going to take the big vein on the inside of his right elbow and move it towards the outside of his arm. Then when that heals, they will put in the “port” and then he will be ready for dialysis. He will have dialysis 3 times a week. His kidneys failed because of the medicine they gave him during open heart surgery. One of the side effects was damage to the kidneys and that is what happened to Bob.
            Godspeed.

  • http://Personalliberty Tony

    To Wayne:
    Right on!! Both Parties are going to have to come down on these oil
    robber barons. By doing this, our country can get the price of gas down. Thanks!!

  • http://com i41

    Tony. these so called hearings are a waste of millions thayt accomplish nothing. When idoits whine about profits of oil companies, they would ber so damn high if we were drilling and doing something right here in the USA. But what bastards are eeping the market high, the middle east muslim countries, all a–hole buddies of the dumbocraps and envioro nut bags. These USA smucks have made it impossible to do a damn thing in the developement of anything, even rebuilding our existing roads and bridges, for every dollar to rebuild our raods, 52 cents go into studies and hearing before a damn shovel of dirt is moved, it takes 7-9 years to meet all of the crap requirements put in place. When idoits talk about companies buying up leases and not doing something, there is several years of studies and getting approval from the same bastards that sold them the leases, something the media and idoits don not know or report. All this niggardly crossbred would have to do to drop the prices in a few days, is to announce that oil drilling in the inner USA and pipelines were being installed to move the crude. Of course that has worked before under Reagan and GW in 2008, something marxist/communist socialists advisor and money man would not like. Since the Nazi Traitor Soros is betting against the USA and would lose money from bidding up all commodities and it would compete against his Brazilan oil company that got 2 billion from the croassbred muslim marxist. The b–ching about oil companies, don’t know any other company where the average person can make more than $100,000 a year working less than a half a year, same as the coal miners in several states, whuich the niggardly Onumnutts and the democraps hate since it is cost effective and the green airy fairy crap never will be.

  • Bitter Libertarian

    Here it is! How to Unstall the US Economy:

    Disolve the federal reserve.

  • http://PersonalLibertyDigest Confoundme once but not twice

    There is a lot of good ”advice and even Thought ‘ showing here…But nothing that shows us ( the average Joe & Jane in this country ) where we can start, in a collective manner…to turn this train around and head it in the direction we do agree that it must go before we will ever be able to crawl out of this Hugh Hole we are being buried in Alive . I Never even intimidated. Joe H. that we have all of our Military brought back to our own shores. I Do know the constantly starting wars all over the universe…exploiting and killing not just our own but every other countries` Human resources this guvmt. seems to think is expendable and easily replaceable…is a totally wrong action. One that is getting us further down in that big hole they have dug for us. We need to give up all the military encampments we have carved out all over the world and claimed for our own…and return those countries ` rightful soverneighnty to them. We have no right to take what is not ours to take. Bring our “almighty Military ‘ Back Home..where it belongs..[protecting Our Countrys` shores and people.] Bring our National Guard Back here ..performing the duty it was intended… Not half across the World where they don`t belong. If we Stopped all the WARS that this Guvmt. starts, and Put our resources into Making this a safer world for all …and concentrate on making Peace Not WAR…we could become an honorable and welcome ally…instead of What we are now. And I do not believe for one second that Doing This will lessen our Strength, or our ability to protect this country against any force that might come . Just Get these war-monger -power-hungry monsters out of our government..and begin the task of rebuilding all they have destroyed..and then ,,perhaps, our integrity will return. Nevermind this Repub…Democ Fight. The two party system is what will destroy us. The Two never can agree. Time for a real change. We need a complete overhaul and house cleaning in not only congress, but most of these war-mongers such as petraeus and mullins and gates …who would be out of a job if they did not keep the war-fires burning everywhere. Where to Start ? Start at the voting booths..And keep close watch on them ! Anyone have a suggestion of how to Actually Go Forward ? Before it is too late to start ?

    • GeorgeE

      Confoundme,

      The problem is our government isn’t balancing their budget year-after-year and the federal debt is so high that we may never get it paid off. Worse yet, the interest on this debt is going up so quickly that soon the government won’t have enough money to continue paying for things it needs to do (like provide for the common defense) or things (benefits like Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, welfare, as well as foreign aid, postal service, education, etc, etc.) it chose to do and promised us over the years. Even worse, at some point the government won’t have enough money to pay the interest on this debt and could therefore default on its bonds. When that happens, it won’t be able to borrow any more money at low rates because interest rates will skyrocket. Everyone has an opinion on what portion of the federal budget could/should be cut and what portion shouldn’t be cut. The problem is we’re going to take so long debating this issue over “fairness” that the government is unlikely to make the cuts necessary in time to avoid the outcomes mentioned above.

      The solution is 1) immediately cut overall federal government spending to a level that equals no more than the revenue it takes in (balance the budget), and 2) do things that actually stimulate the economy so tax revenues will go up year-over-year. It will take a cut of about 42% in spending to balance the budget. I recommend the government just make an immediate across-the-board cut of 42% in all programs to balance the budget. Then take steps to divide up the remaining money among the various programs according to how we as a nation define our priorities, need, and “fairness.” Hopefully, a process like this would cause all of us to understand that 1) the pain will be shared by everyone, not just the other guy, and 2) there is never enough money to do all the things people think of and want the government to do. That is, the government must make sacrifices just like our families and businesses have to do to balance budgets.

      The second part of the solution is to stimulate the economy to grow (above the rate of inflation). The way to do this is 1) make sure tax rates/burden is as low as possible and well managed. That requires that our government be small, efficient and disciplined as to what it gets involved in and how much money it spends, something it doesn’t do today. Also, the government needs to 2) determine exactly what controls/regulations/laws are actually necessary to promote a strong economy, then make sure the ones that are necessary are simplified to the extent possible, and get rid of all other controls/regulations/laws. In addition, the government needs to 3) support certain fundamental research (like the national labs, NASA, etc) that may enable new industries to be created with new innovative products that could be the basis for future economic growth in this country. Finally, the government must maintain sound monetary policy by not printing more money than is justified by growth in the GDP in order to keep inflation at low levels so the currency is not devalued.

      What can we do, individually, to solve this problem? Make sure we commit ourselfs to the proposition that this is our number one priority, and that it is critical that we solve this problem before attempting to solve any other problem. We all feel passionately about a number of social issues, but none of them should take priority over fixing this problem. If we do allow ourselves to get diverted into other issues, we run the risk of not fixing this problem. If we don’t fix the financial problem first, nothing else will matter. We’ve got to be active in educating ourselves, our children, and our neighbors to the problem, the causes, and the solutions. We’ve got to make sure our politicians understand how we think and what we want them to do. Get involved in organizations that agree with this priority, like the Tea Party. Quit thinking along political party lines. Let all politicians know this is the number one problem that we want them to work on and fix for the long term. Stay involved and committed to this priority. Just remember, the forces fighting to get more money and power from/through the federal government never ends, so we can never let up either, or we’ll find ourselves right back in the same situation over time, assuming we are lucky enough to get it fixed this time.

    • http://?? Joe H.

      confoundme,
      ” I neverintimated that we bring all of our troops home”!
      ” Bring our all mighty military home to protect our shores”
      ” Bring our national guard home to do the job they were meant to do”
      all three quotes are by you, now tell me if you were intimating bringing all our troops home????

  • jopa

    Lastmanstanding: The last time I saw a graph (about a week ago) on big oil contributions to candidates, 80% of the oil money went to Republicans.

    • GeorgeE

      So do small businesses (which actually create most of the new jobs), farmers, small independent oil and gas companies, and taxpayers. These are all people who are productive and make investments in our country and economy. The big companies that do contribute to the liberal cause are often those that 1) want or get government subsidies, contracts, or grants, or are 2) hedging their bets because they know that democrats will sometimes get elected to office and they need to be able to get access to them as well. Companies generally try to be apolitical because they know their top priority is to their shareholders, not pushing a political cause. What’s your point?

  • jopa

    GeorgeE:I don’t think there will be too many republicans left after the next election and all the recalls taking place today.Have you seen the uproar taking place at all the town hall meetings in Wisconsin, Ohio and Michigan.The republicans trying to destroy Medicare, Medicaid and Social security.What are they thinking?I feel they are envisioning a future time when they will all be filthy rich on the taxpayers dime and now they are just setting themselves up for a later date.

    • GeorgeE

      Jopa,

      I think you’ve got things upside down. Our government budgets have to be balanced soon and that simply can’t be done without making modifications to public employee retirement and entitlement programs. It just isn’t possible. Regardless whether the Republicans do it or the Democrats or other politicians, it will be done because there is no other choice that works. Unfortunately, too many politicians are either uninformed or simply misrepresenting the facts by telling the public that we can solve the budgetary problems without making these changes. Time will prove they are wrong, but we really don’t have the time if we want to avoid catastrophic problems. Don’t get caught up in the “this political party is good, and that one is bad” game because it will only serve to keep you blinded to the real problems, causes, and solutions.

    • GeorgeE

      Jopa,

      By the way, I have seen some of the demonstrations in Wisconsin and heard about the recall petitions being circulated. These actions are being initiated by the public employee unions, and I’m aware of the way unions work. They get legislation that forces workers to join unions. Then they force the workers to pay dues out of their paychecks to the union. The union then takes some of this money to get politicians elected to office, so they’ll have people in office who will help them negotiate favorable pay, pensions, and conditions for their members, obligations for the public that will go on and on long after the politicians who agreed to them have left office. (This reminds me of the adage “bought and paid for politicians.”) They often get money from the government as well which is often used to get politicians elected or re-elected to office. (Is this a way of recycling the taxpayers money?) They also organize demonstrations like the ones you referred to. They bus people in from all over, many from out of state, give them pre-printed signs, tell them how to march and what to chant. This kind of organized demonstration is not impressive to me because it isn’t grassroots like the Tea Party demonstrations. Frankly, I’d rather watch the polls to see what the majority of voters think, which in this case varies somewhat from the image you presented.

      I think most people are coming around to the notion that regardless how “noble” the cause, we simply have to balance our budgets, and restraining public employee pensions and entitlements is a major area of concern. Also, while most people may not understand or appreciate the depth and breadth of the financial problem yet, I believe they will if we continue to educate them. I know that no one wants to experience any cut in the benefits they currently get, or planning to get, from the government, it’s very likely all of these programs will have to be modified if they are to survive. The sooner we realize this and take the tough steps to fix the causes of this problem, the better chance we have of avoiding losing these benefits altogether.

      Politicians do what politicians do. That is, they take our money and use it to gain more and more power over our lives, buy our votes, and corrupt our businesses and other organizations. We’ve got to stop, or at least bring this under control………………..quickly.

      • http://?? Joe H.

        GeorgeE,
        jopa needs to not forget that there are ALSO petitions circulating to recall the progressives that ran like cowards to avoid the vote!!! I’d almost give them even money on that one!!!

        • GeorgeE

          Joe H.

          It’ll be very interesting to see how the people of Wisconsin come down on these issues. I care because I’d like to see all of our governments (state, federal, etc.) act more responsibly with taxpayer money. However, in the end what they do in Wisconsin will only affect me if they run out of money and ask the federal government for a bail-out. So as long as that doesn’t happen, they can do whatever they want. They can make their bed and sleep in it as far as I’m concerned. On the other hand, when those union thugs come to Texas and start doing what they’re doing in Wisconsin and other states, I’m going to jump right in along with millions of my fellow Texans to put a quick end to it. Most of us down here don’t have any trouble seeing them for what they really are………

          • http://deleted Claire

            GeorgeE–I have quite a number of relatives in Wisconsin, and the majority of them are all for recalling the Republican/Democrat Senators. They are actively promoting/signing petitions. At this time it appears the main goal is to recall Walker in 2012.
            It remains to be seen how this plays out.

          • GeorgeE

            Interesting. How do your relatives define the problem, and what’s their solution (other than changing politicians)? In other words, what do they want the politicians to do when they get into office? Just curious.

          • http://deleted Claire

            It appears some of my Republican relatives are against the unions and the Democratic Senators for skipping town as so to speak. These relatives do not have union jobs. And some of my Republican and Democrat relatives are remaining silent on the situation. Now, my Democrat relatives that do have union jobs (teachers, three firefighters, 5 policemen and a number of farmers including dairy), they did not oppose having to pay more for their pensions, hospitalization, etc. but they wanted to keep the collective bargaining aspect. This is the crux of the whole matter. Apparently when Walker was campaigning, he did not say he was going to do away with unions and collective bargaining. They voted for him because of the economy and hoped Walker would be a good choice. Now a lot of people think Walker “turned” on them. If the collective bargaining had been kept, maybe things would not be in such an uproar. Anyway, I hope I have explained it sufficiently. My farmer relatives also raised heck, a couple of them drove tractors to Madison. On a lighter note, one of my aunts and her husband still farm even though they are quite elderly. She said their tractors were old and it would take a week to get to Madison. I laughed, she is so cute.
            To me, it is a classic example of a politician (any politician) not being “upfront” that will say anything and everything just so they get elected. Sure, the issues at hand are bad, and need “cleaning up” but a politician should tell the truth and say exactly what he or she plans to do if elected, in other words, be upfront instead of saying one thing and doing another. I guess it is too much to hope for. I am naive I guess, but I expect honesty.

          • GeorgeE

            Claire,

            Well that makes sense to me. However, if they voted for Republicans to fix the economy, what did they expect the Republicans to do? I would have guessed the Republicans ran on a platform of stimulating the private sector to fix the economy which would have required keeping the public sector small and well managed so they don’t have to increase taxes, draining capital out of the private sector. Democrats on the other hand typically run on a platform of increasing government programs and hiring more government workers. They believe this is the way to prosperity. So, it seems a little strange to me that voters in Wisconsin are surprised that the Republicans are doing what they should have said they’d do when running for office. In any case, I understand that Wisconsin has a pretty severe budget problem, so how do they propose getting that under control over the long term if not putting some constraints on public sector employee pensions and benefits? Obviously, doing what the Democrats typically propose would only serve to make their budget problem worse, especially in the face of a poor performing economy.

            It looks to me like the unions were willing to give back some of their benefits this year so long as they can come back to the negotiating table in the future and get them back. This might help to get this year’s budget in balance but wouldn’t do anything for the budgets in future years without some permanent structural modifications. In any case, I’m under the impression that the changes recommended by the Republicans are in line with the kind of union benefits and privileges given federal unions. So, while no one wants to give up any of their benefits, this proposal doesn’t appear to be extreme to me. Again, the “money well” has run dry and someone somewhere is going to have to give up something. There is no other way, unless we can supercharge the economy to the point where tax revenues are coming in above expenditures. History tells us that isn’t likely since politicians have always found new innovative ways of spending and wasting at least as much money as they get from us in taxes. Right now they’re spending about 1.4 times more money than they get in taxes, and that’s been going on for many, many years.

  • jopa

    GeorgeE:Your claim of the Teaparty being grassroots is obsolete.It had a good well intended beginning until they started taking money from and spreading the rhetoric of the Koch brothers and Karl Rove.After awhile they didn’t even know what or who they were protesting.Nationally there popularity was never that strong and there numbers are even smaller today.This years tax day was a good example of the Tea party numbers.In Boston there were around 350 demonstrators down from several thousand last year.Another thing is if and when the Republican party takes control again it will be the end of Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid as we know it today.If the Bush tax cuts were to expire as the law was written we would not be in such a mess as we are today.

    • http://deleted Claire

      jopa–I agree with you. I do think the Tea Party started out as an upfront grassroots organization. In fact, I was pleased. But no more. I attended 2 meetings, and will never waste my time again. Just like anything and everything else that starts out as being for a good cause and then suddenly a political party steps in and takes over. The Republicans have more or less taken over the tea party movement as far as I am concerned.
      The matter of Social Security concerns me. Vouchers? Give me a break. $15,000??? Hell, my husband’s first trip into the hospital exceeded that amount 4-5 times. Like my husband says, the so-called “death panels” are alive and well in this recent proposal. Nope, I am not “glommed” on to either party nor will I be until they start showing some common sense, integrity, honesty, moral ethics, and decency. I refuse to be a follower.

      • GeorgeE

        Claire,

        No one wants to have their Medicare, Medicaid, or Social Security or other government benefits reduced. I certainly don’t. However, the problem is we can’t afford all of these programs much longer unless they are modified. I give Paul Ryan credit for having the courage to stick his neck out and do the risky thing in recommending ways to get these programs under control. I don’t see anyone else doing that, especially the Democrats who will tell you we don’t have a financial crisis, which is totally untrue. It is time for everyone to come together and agree that we have a problem and we will all share in solving it. Let’s get some ideas on the table and debate them to see if anyone can come up with better ideas that we believe will work and create the least pain for the most people. If we don’t take action soon, we’ll all suffer the maximum pain because all of these programs will get cut when we run out of money and options.

        • http://deleted Claire

          GeorgeE– I know many elderly couples that rely on their Social Security–mainly from Church. To me, the taxpayer paid into these programs and the government stole from these programs to benefit their own “agendas.” The administrations are guilty of the “rob Peter to pay Paul” syndrome. I am old school, I abhor stealing and this is exactly what it was. The administrations never “paid” the money back. Plus the fact the doctors, hospitals, insurance companies and big pharmas fleeced the programs, and charged as much as they could get by with. They all wanted huge profits and they got them. I call it Greed, pure and simple.

        • http://?? Joe H.

          GeorgeE,
          Make them pay back all those IOUs the government put in when they “borrowed” from social security and it will be solvent for quite a few years to come!! I put the quotation marks there cause usually when you borrow, you mean to pay back, and let’s face it those pols never repay ANYTHING!!!

          • GeorgeE

            Hi Joe H,

            The problem is the politicians spent the “surplus” we paid in to the Social Security System so there is no surplus any longer, and the only place they can get the money to repay it is from us…… Bottom line, we’re screwed and there’s not much we can do about it now. There’s no money left, and we just can’t keep on borrowing and printing money to fill the deficit gap. I don’t see any easy way out of this one……..

          • http://?? Joe H.

            GeorgeE,
            I understand what you say, but since those monies were paid into the fund by the very people that are supposed to be collecting it, they should make social security the last thing along with military that they cut!!! Before they pay ANY money into any special interest project, those IOUs should be paid first!! That money was collected out of peoples pay without any choice in the matter and if they had the money invested over all those years, they would have quite a nest egg to apply to surviving!!

          • GeorgeE

            Joe H,

            I really couldn’t agree more. I hope that’s the way it turns out, to be sure. However, regardless where the cuts come from, they must come or there won’t be Social Security or any other government program because the debt is rapidly eating up all the revenue.

    • GeorgeE

      Jopa,

      It’s true that some of the public enthusiasm for the Tea Party has waned. There are a number of reasons for it, I’m sure. Among these reasons is that Tea Party participants and supporters are not radical activists. Most are grandparents or working folks with families. They don’t have time for meetings and demonstrations. However, I believe the founding principle of the Tea Party was to bring government under fiscal and monetary control, and most still believe this is a number one priority. We may differ exactly how to go about doing that, but most believe we’ve got to cut government spending without raising taxes or increasing the size of government programs.

      Naturally, the Tea Party had to either become a formal 3rd party and run their own candidates or attempt to get their favorite candidates elected through the Republican and Democratic Parties. They chose the latter, understanding that the time is not right for a 3rd political party in this country. Pushing 3rd party candidates would only result in total failure for the cause. It’s no wonder most chose to align with the Republican party because there is a common set of principles regarding fiscal policy. The fact that some prominent Republican politicians, strategists, and contributors have tried to align with the Tea Party should come as no surprise. This doesn’t mean that the Tea Party is giving in or giving up on promoting its cause. Would you rather the Tea Party align with Barack Obama, Harry Reid, Nancy Pelosi, George Soros, and the like? I wouldn’t because I don’t think these Democrats can support smaller government programs given their long standing strategy of winning votes through government giveaways and increasing centralized federal government control.

  • http://deleted Claire

    I read in the newspaper (again) that oil companies continue to make a hearty profit. And the same with the drug companies. Imagine that. Why am I NOT surprised. The fleecing of America continues.

  • http://deleted Claire

    Oh BTW, I just bought a Chrysler Town and Country van. Had to trade in my old ’94 full-size Chevy Van, Gosh, I hated to part with that old van. Been all over the US and it had 187,653 miles on it and still running good. I cried when I cleaned it out and left it. Many many good memories. The body was rusting bad, and the paint had peeled off on the entire roof. It was too big to get in my garage so obviously it had to sit outside.
    I also like the Chevy Impala my husband bought several months ago. I am looking for a bumper sticker that says: “Imported from Detroit.” Just like their ad says on TV. I do not begrudge bailing out GM. And I will not apologize for feeling the way I do.

    • GeorgeE

      Hi Claire,

      I buy US made automobiles as well. I think I get more value than I would get with the higher priced foreign vehicles. However, I don’t particularly like the way the government handled the bailout of GM and Chrysler. The way I see it is that the taxpayers were forced to lend these companies several billion dollars which they will probably never be able to repay, mostly so the unions wouldn’t have to restructure their pension plans. Since these union workers have better pensions than most of the taxpayers required to loan them money, I think that is unfair to the taxpayers. In my opinion, it would have been fairer to all (workers, shareholders, unions, management, taxpayer, etc.) to have let the bankrupsy court fix these companies rather than our politicians. Unfortunately, these companies may eventually have to restructure these pension plans anyway if they’re going to get their costs under control sufficient to compete with the lower cost foreign manufacturers.

      • http://deleted Claire

        GeorgeE–Hi! You make some good points, however, since the administration bailed them out, and Americans had no say in the matter, I simply felt I would support GM, union or not. After all, since our tax dollars bailed them out, why not support GM/Chrysler so they can make money, and pay the government back? If GM and Chrysler is blackballed, then as taxpayers we lose. This has always been my theory about the issue. I am not going to blackball GM or Chrysler. I may be wrong according to some people, but this is how I feel. My husband and I have always had Chevys, an occasional Ford. We were teenyboppers in the “muscle car era” and although it may sound goofy, my sentiments are “Chevy” oriented. I will not pretend to be otherwise. My husband has a 2002 Jeep and it is a wonderful SUV. Believe it or not, but my big old ’94 Chevy Van got 21 miles to the gallon on the interstate and it would “haul.” It was an 8 cylinder and I took care of it. I simply will not buy a car with a foreign name. I just can’t.

        • GeorgeE

          Claire,

          Sounds like you and I are from the same generation, and share many of the same memories, experiences, and preferences. Take care.

    • http://?? Joe H.

      Claire,
      Hope you aren’t expecting good gas mileage from that town and Country! I have a 2005 and I’m lucky to get 24.5 to the gallon!! I traded a pontiac Transport in and it got 29.5 to the gallon and was a 95!! Had the biggest six cylinder that pontiac made then as well!! All fiberglass so no rust, either, but it had 95,000 miles on it!!! Wish I’d have kept it!!

      • http://deleted Claire

        JoeH– We are supposed to get about 25 miles to the gallon. We will find out next week! I needed a vehicle big enough to haul dogs. I can only get 2 dog crates in the Jeep. There will be some shows when I will have 3 dogs entered. Anyway, the power doors are sure nice and it rides good.

        • http://?? Joe H.

          claire,
          Yes, but that’s 25 with a six cylinder and you are used to an eight!!! The power will be less, only 4 miles to the gallon more, and believe me, not as comfortable in the long ride!!!

  • http://PersonalLibertyDigest Confoundme once but not twice

    George E, I have to agree with you on at least 95% of what you are Saying. I Know you have a lot of good common sense , and that you have “been around the Block enoughtimes that you can`t be fooled on How the “Economy’ is Doing ( & Not doing ! ) My Primary Reasoning about What comes First ”the cart or the horse” is a bit different from yours, Inasmuch as I am a retired person drawing a very slim pension ( for twenty years Of my Working hard ) And a not so great Social security Check..That Comes in ( thank God ! Every month ! ) I also have a Daughter who is not ” prepared in life to earn enough money to live on ,without a Great deal of Input From My meager income. She Has not been Able to find a Job Other than A Part-time Stint at Minimum wages ..Doing in-home nursing care for An elderly person who Is Not wanting to be Put away in a nursing home to live her life out…Can`t say I would Either, Considering the Caliber of Care that is Given in MOst Nursing homes… I say all this just to say >>> If not for MY help my Grown Daughter Would not be able to Survive At All. And If not for MY meager “”Earned Income” That I Do have coming to me each month, Neither Would I. SO..When Talk keeps Cropping up..Every Few months..About Cutting out These Earned Incomes ( Or cutting Down ) Believe Me …I Panic. George, What We want and Need More than Anything..IS For Decent paying Jobs to return to this Country..And Then we can Earn enough Money to Not Have to be as dependent on Our Pensions And Our Social Security Checks ..As Much as We DO now. I Do believe that most all of us who are in this “category’ would be So pleased if we Didn`t have to depend so much on “”What we Have already earned ‘ And have such fear, often, of it being taken away from us. I don`t know if you can relate to what this is like. I have always Believed That if you work hard and Try to live right…And Paid your bills Every Week…You would Be OK. The JOB bit has to be Remedied BEFORE anything Should be Done about Cutting These ‘earned’ incomes. (When There Are Jobs For People, Trust ME ! People Prefer Working and Drawing a paycheck every week )..rather than be Living ‘Too Close to the Bone’..Trying to stretch Our S.S.Checks Enough TO Feed and put a roof over the heads of Grown Children..And Some of us, ( Most ) Raising their Grandchildren on it, as Well ! )
    In regards to the Tea Party Gang. At first, I Also felt it was Coming on board..at a good time..to Help Make Change for the Good for the Hurting and Unemployed..And The Medically needy People who are not Able to Get Health Coverage, or help. BUT soon I Changed my Mind. I Do agree with jopa. When this Character Beck began to take over..And Then Palin got too involved..I Had to do a lot more Research on them . What the TP group has managed to do..is Divide the Republican Party so much..that I Doubt the R.Party Can possibly win the People Over In 2012. And Another Thing, Any ‘talk.. ( Threat )from A Republican candidate about Privatizing…or changing Medicare or Medicaid in any way.. Will cause them to lose . Maybe down the road it can be Tweaked’ Some…but NOT now. NOT until There is a Job market out here..And the Economy Is looking Up. Maybe Then it would Be Better to consider it. Do you realize how many Senior Citizens There Is >> who Must Use These ”Earned Benefits ? ‘ Do you think Any Party Wants Them ‘ jumping On their Necks ?’ The best Thing the TP Group can do..is to Stick to their Prior Agenda..And Stop allowing Bums like Beck and his Kind.. to take over and use them to his own agendas` benefit. Sorry to be so long here making my Point.. But I am sure you do understand…Why. Thanx..

    • GeorgeE

      Confoundme,

      Thanks for sharing your thoughts. It breaks my heart to think of all the pain it’s going to cause people when our entitlement programs are cut back. I just retired a couple of years ago and depend on my Social Security check each month as well, so I don’t say these things because I’m rich and above it all. I’m in the trenches with you all.

      The problem is that there just isn’t enough money to fund the kind of spending our government has been doing, and since the fastest growing segment of spending has been Medicare with Medicaid and Social Security right behind, we’ve got to do something to slow the growth of these programs. Something has got to be done quickly to reduce government expenditures before the obligations to Medicare, especially, consume all of the revenue the government gets from us. If we act soon we still have time to save these programs, but it will require doing such things as extending the retirement age for younger workers, reducing or eliminating COLAs, privatizing as much as we can, and expand programs like health savings accounts for younger workers so they can build a fund to pay for their health care when they get older. We also need to think about encouraging competition among health care providers across state lines and putting reasonable caps on “pain and suffering” legal judgments as well. If we get started soon, maybe we can avoid having to make too many changes to the current program for the current retirees. But the longer we wait, the harder and harder it’s going to be to do this.

      The disgusting thing for all of us when we think about it is our scum bag politicians have not been responsible with our money. They have spent, and continue to spend and waste our money like there’s no end to it. They borrow money like it will never have to be repaid. They print money just because they can without concern for the value of the money already in circulation and the value of assets priced in USD. We all know there are many, many things they could do if they wanted to do them to cut spending by hundreds of billions of dollars each year. The plain truth is they really don’t want to cut spending too much. Many of them (I want throw any stones here) are heavily invested in redistribution programs to buy influence and votes with our money. This is nothing less than corruption pure and simple. So, I think if we focused our energies toward demanding our politicians clean up the wasteful spending rather than trying to find new ways of taxing us for more money, and rewarded those politicians who do have the courage to help us solve this problem, I think we’ll get to the other side sooner than otherwise.

      Finally, it is appalling to me that we have allowed the extreme environmentalist in this country to slow business development like they have. If we wanted to do one thing to encourage businesses to grow and create more jobs in this country it would be to drop the biggest part of the new environmental laws and regulations that have been put in place over the past 30 years. I’ve seen example after example where farmers can’t farm, oil and gas drillers can’t drill, factories can’t be built or expanded, pipelines can’t be built, miners can’t mine, fishermen can’t fish, and on and on and on due to unnecessary enviornmental regulations. This nonsense needs to stop now. This would do a lot towards creating jobs and balancing our trade deficit which would help strengthen the value of the USD. It would also create more tax revenue for the government so cuts in our entitlement programs might not have to be so great or so soon.

  • http://deleted Claire

    May 1st– We should all dance around the May Pole! My wishes to all of you for a wonderful day.

  • jopa

    Claire;I am ready to dance around the May Pole with some May flowers.It seems as though every day has been April showers,April showers.Living here in Eastern Pa. my grass is ready for it’s third mowing and some of my neighbors haven’t had a chance to do there first with all the rain.Have to always look at the bright side though and how lucky we are, when there was so much devastation in the Southern states.

  • http://PersonalLibertyDigest Confoundme once but not twice

    George E , Your words absolutely strike a cord with me. You certainly Appear to have more Logical, common-sense approaches to our dire Economical position than does most .. And To add, YOU not only Present things in a clear and to the point manner we can find more reasons to accept than discard..your Suggestions. THEY Make excellent sense. Since you ARe, as you stated, A recently retired Man…WOW ! How about Becoming Our Spokesman..And help Make sense to this Path we are on ?? Take a look at Most of the ‘Candidates’ that are yet again Presenting For PoTUS.. [Thumbs down to the retreads.] We need Real Men Who Will Say what they mean and Be willing to Back their Words up..All the Way. Not the Wishy-washy We have already seen too much of ( You Know of whom I Speak. ) Too much is being done..inside our Country..by this Guvmt. to bring us Down. By the way, BinLaden is ( Dead” ! ) I thought he had been dead since 2003. But There is Something Brewing here..That We are not going to Like. And I look for THIS to be used Against us in Our Daily lives ( more Rules, ropes tightening..ETC.. And excuses ..Possibility of Retaliation on our people because ”their leader ? is ..dead >>. I Hope It is not an opportune Announcement to be used here. As for Joe… I did not Intimate ”All” of Our Al-Mighty Military Be Brought Back Home! THAT, under the circumstances That Exist now, Would not be Feasible OR possible. This GUVMT. has Confiscated and Infringed All over the World..And Built Military Concerns That can`t be dismantled anytime in the near future. WE have Brought too much Angst to too many Countries..To think it Would be Safe to Turn our Backs on any thing. BUT. These “”Unending wars Have to be “supported” And this US of A..Has About hit rock-bottom in being Able to GO on Supporting ENDLESS wars. All OF THE “”Jobs”" This Venture Creates..ARE Not HERE. And WE can`t afford to BUY products That are Brought in from Other Countries… NO JOBS Equal NO Money to Spend for Anything. Barely Making Bread and Board ! No need to Go on and ON about Things WE are So aware of..We Need more Voices such as George E…TO Speak out and Tell it Like it IS Loud and Clear ! Thanx..

    • GeorgeE

      Confoundme,

      Thanks for your kind words and recommendations. However, I speak only for myself. I’m willing to share my thinking with other critical thinkers to test the logic of my theories. Batting them around with others on this board serves to guide and strengthen these theories. Thanks for your thoughts.

  • http://PersonalLibertyDigest Confoundme once but not twice

    George E, I Was Right ! You have A LOT of good common sense ! You have heard the Old but still good Expression, ‘United we stand, Divided we fall ” I`m sure . WEll, Judging from Most of the Comments I have found here on this ‘board’… People Are now beginning to Open up their Eyes and Ears..And Not only observe what is Happening out here in our Real World…But Are wanting to Do something to rearrange and even Redirect the Path this country is on. And have now woke up to the Fact that This inequity we Are living..is not sustainable, as is..and nor do we want it to continue, as is . It will require A lot more Collective Action than we have witnessed thus far.. Along with clear thinking..to accomplish what is needed. First of all, CAN we Wait until NOV.2012 to get Started ? How much more damage can this present Regime do to Bring our country down between Now and Then ? It appears THEY have used their “main’ ace in the hole ..With the subsequent Secret Raid and the “Killing ?” of Osama ! How many times can a mere man be stone-dead…And resurrected for how many more ‘needed Purposes ? WOW! Isn`t it weird ? Are the People of the World going to Allow this Staged Event To work in the favor of this bunch of War-mongers ?? and keep all of the world forevermore engaged in an “Endless WAR ON TERRRROIOORRR” ..like Little and big bush planned ?? in order TO Acquire their OWO, to be ruled over by These kinds Masters, over All ? ( Goes back at least to the ‘Twenties’ of long-range planning.) Seriously, Were we given big doses of Sleep-aids and Tranquilizers so we would sleep thru to Completion of plan ?? Are we awake now ? Enough Of us ” Truthers and Searchers ?’ Do you think they even thawed OBL`s frozen bode before hoisting it over into the deep ? Do you really Believe there WAS a body ? And if so, Whose ?? Call me a Doubting Thomas if you want. For I Do not believe one bit of this Concocted Story B.O.and this regime has concocted up …And all done to Parlay Up his Fall in the PollS, and to cause enough angst against our Country ..to justify Aiming our guns all over the world >> “To protect us from retaliation ?” << YUK . I Believe The People of the Middle Eastern countries Are too Smart to get rooked in to This Program bush Calls 'War on TERRRORRR' That was invented to Keep our War machines humming. My opinion. But I Know I am not alone in my Thinking. Well.. Now you Know ! I Am a Doubting Thomas of the First Order.[ And I don`t want to Think Benazir Bhutto died in vain.}

Bottom
close[X]

Sign Up For Personal Liberty Digest™!

PL Badge

Welcome to PersonalLiberty.com,
America's #1 Source for Libertarian News!

To join our group of freedom-loving individuals and to get alerts as well as late-breaking conservative news from Personal Liberty Digest™...

Privacy PolicyYou can opt out at any time. We protect your information like a mother hen. We will not sell or rent your email address to anyone for any reason.