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US Airstrike Kills Chinook Attackers

US Airstrike Kills Chinook Attackers

KABUL, Afghanistan — A U.S. airstrike in Afghanistan killed the insurgents thought to be responsible for an attack on a helicopter that killed 38 people, officials said Wednesday.

Marine Corps Gen. John R. Allen said the military in Afghanistan tracked the insurgents after they shot down the NATO Chinook helicopter during the weekend, The New York Times reported.

NATO officials said Taliban leader Mullah Mohibullah, along with the insurgent who fired the shot on the helicopter, were killed in the precision airstrike Monday, CNN reported. Several other Taliban associates also were killed, the military said.

In the Saturday strike against the Chinook, Taliban insurgents attacked the helicopter, likely with a rocket-propelled grenade launcher, the Pentagon said. The casualty list included 22 Navy SEALs, three Air Force special operations personnel, a five-person Army helicopter crew, seven Afghan commandos and a civilian Afghan translator.

It was the largest loss of American life in a single day in the nearly decade-old war.

In a video-conference briefing from Kabul Wednesday, Allen said the Chinook helicopter was flying a mission when it also encountered small arms fire as it entered the Tangi Valley in restive Wardak province, west of Kabul.

An investigation has begun to determine the exact cause of the crash.

The Chinook was flying to the scene of a firefight in which Army Rangers were trying to capture a local Taliban leader responsible for a series of attacks, who Allen said eluded capture.

“We will continue to pursue that network,” Allen said, declining to name the leader.

The remains of the 38 U.S. service members arrived at Dover Air Force Base in Delaware Tuesday. The Afghan remains will be returned to their families once identifications can be made, U.S. officials said.

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  • 1minuteman

    i would like to know why yu would let the world know that or crack seals team 6 were killed. the last thing you want the enemy to know is that they took out some of our best troops. the same goes for killing bin laden. obama did not have to tell who killed him. he only had to say we got him. the seals are the last people who want any kind of press. they don’t need it. they are a special breed and that was leaked for political reasons only. an investigation needs to take place by congress. why after only a few hours after the seals were killed did it make the morning news? something stinks badly.

    • eddie47d

      News of our military are in the Denver Post each and every day so why would this incident be any different. Some complain that there is not enough coverage on our troops bravery and when there is they want it all hushed up. Soldiers and unfortunately lots of civilians die in wars and that is the ugly reality of these “excursions” and it is all news worthy.

  • Karolyn

    I just wonder why they couldn’t have done a precision strike before the incident. Why did the seals have to be used to help the troops who were in a firefight?

    • bob wire

      Timing,~ moving targets and rapid changing intel Karolyn .

      Variables that only a rapid strike force like Delta Force can deal with in real time.

      Small equals fast.

  • Capitalist at Birth

    I think now as, I did in 2001, that we should just level Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan, and Pakistan. It would be cheaper and save lives in the long run.

    • Chuck Henry

      No need to worry the Israelis starting with Iran will turn that whole region into one vast fused silica parking lot. They have the technology and one day they may just have to do it.
      Semper Fi

    • BigBadJohn

      “I think now as, I did in 2001, that we should just level Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan, and Pakistan. It would be cheaper and save lives in the long run.”

      When Bush started beating the war drum to invade Afghanistan – My thoughts were the same, the ONLY way to win would have been to completely de-populate the area. something NO ONE was willing to even consider…..

  • joseph p bell

    It is a shame that we advertise ?and that is the funny part about this war ? Our TV stations keep showing the “,band of brothers ‘, WW 2, etc etc .. we haven;t won a war since WW2,and then the Russians helped ; The citizens of this country (like capitalist at birth ) are so full of diaoer doodoo , and no one to change it for them .. The Manson Family prosecutor ,Bugliosi? called usa “the walking dead “. Sounds like zombies to me .. 911 was an inside job ? Can anyone tell me where /(or who killed ,LT Kevin Shaeffer ,the only living survivor from Naval Command center , who stated ,” If we hadn’t been blown , the navy could have proved what happened at WTC.”. Good BYE ,Kevin , you are truly a good hero . See 911 report page 11 for his name on the Commission Staff

    • Jyrine

      You are an idiot.

  • khe sanh vet

    the term missinformation comes to mind , if the reported death of seal team 6 is made known it might be to hide the real location and identites of that team ??? maybe —–

  • 101stRECON68

    My two cents worth are that the Chinook is a good cargo hauling machine but should NEVER go into a hot LZ period. It’s too big, too slow and too tempting an easy target. Plus what idiot would place that many special resource soldiers and airmen onto the same bird? Sounds like they are getting too complacent in that war zone. Mistakes cost lives, but who’s counting? WE should level all of that entire area and get the hell out NOW! Damned republicans AND democrats like to waste OTHER people’s sons and money. Disgusted with the whole bunch!

    • Big Dave

      I agree with the 101st Airborne guy. Why put many high value targets in one aircraft? We have the technology and weapons to identify laser and IR targeting so why not send along a UAV with strike capability as a wingman? I have a friend that says 50% of the population is below average–how come so many of them get to be in charge?

    • bob wire

      Don’t be fooled by ugly . I’ve rode in them all at one time or another.

      The Boeing CH-47 Chinook is an American twin-engine, tandem rotor heavy-lift helicopter. Its top speed of 170 knots (196 mph, 315 km/h) is faster than contemporary utility and attack helicopters of the 1960s.

      Needless to say, in a dive, much like any aircraft, it’s much faster going down hill.

      I was in one that lifted straight up at full pitch once to an altitude of 2000 ft. ~ I was wearing my ass—- for a hat band and felt bad for some time.

      It’s all blades, motor and ugly ~

    • Iva Raggon

      Assuming 68 refers to a year – congrats for surviving the same conflict I also participated in. You are so right, it’s easy for the people in Washington to sacrifice the lives of other people’s children to satisfy their egos. I suppose that’s been true since time immemorial. Since you were in Recon, I am sure you ran into the same thing repeatedly. Get back from a mission, deliver true intel, have it completely ignored because of some BS orders from people in Washington thousands of miles away. Result: dead friends and dead villagers who were clueless anyway.

      Thanks for your service.

  • bob wire

    As US troops work toward a closure both side will ratchet up these efforts in an attempt to gain political leverage. That’s the very nature of such activity, as strange at it might sound.

    I read an excellent write up yesterday maybe I can find and offer the link, ~ hold on a minute ~ freeze screen ! darn it.

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/44088691/ns/world_news-south_and_central_asia/

    It was a AP press release. ~

    They got sloppy ~ or it was just a luck shot ~ I believe it was the latter. ~ There is a thousand eyes and ears that looks for such opportunity. Being out gunned requires one to fight a different fight.

    I hate it ~ I hate this whole damn mess and I’ve been beyond angry for 11 years.

  • greg

    > Wow! Talk about “over the top…” — May be closer to the truth than
    > we think — lg
    > In the world of “secret ops” the truth is an elusive thing.
    > *The Execution of SEAL Team Six (Part 1)*
    > Posted by Ann Barnhardt – August 6, AD 2011 4:08 PM MST
    > You’re damn right I said it.
    > On May 5th I had an email conversation with a retired military man with
    > spook contacts. All were in total agreement that the Bin Laden episode
    > was pure theater. The SEALS were sent into a compound as evidenced by
    > the lost chopper on site. But Osama Bin Laden wasn’t in that compound.
    > Osama Bin Laden has been dead for years.
    > Bin Laden had a genetic condition that caused renal failure (this
    > genetic condition is common among deeply inbred Saudi Arab Muslims). Bin
    > Laden had been on dialysis BEFORE 9/11. Dialysis is difficult enough for
    > people in first world countries who can have it done in outstanding
    > facilities. Bin Laden was having it done either in caves or in homes
    > post 9/11. People in renal failure having dialysis done in fricking
    > caves do NOT live for ten more years. Period. There was no dialysis
    > equipment found in the compound the SEALS raided on May 2. Of course
    > there wasn’t. Bin Laden wasn’t in that compound because Bin Laden has
    > been dead for years.
    > This is why the “body” was declared “positively identified” faster than
    > any known DNA testing process in existence – and this DNA testing was
    > carried out not in a lab mind you, but inside Chinook and/or V-22 Osprey
    > Helos en route to the USS Carl Vinson. The body was then dumped into the
    > Indian Ocean in a mad dash to ensure that “burial” took place within 24
    > hours of death in order to “honor” musloid burial traditions. Not a
    > single picture of the so-called “Bin Laden corpse” has ever been
    > released – and never will.
    > The entire Bin Laden episode was stagecraft. It was pure theater that
    > was designed to give Obama a boost in the polls and give distraction and
    > cover. Distract from what? Cover from what?
    > April 20, 2011: The release date of Dr. Jerome Corsi’s book, “Where’s
    > The Birth Certificate” is announced as May 17, and pre-sales begin on
    > Amazon. com. Corsi’s work is known to be extremely thorough and
    > meticulous. Within hours, Corsi’s book is #1 on Amazon. com – fully 28
    > days before its release. The Obama regime is panicked.
    > April 27, 2011: In order to diffuse and undercut the Corsi book, the
    > Obama regime releases a PDF image purported to be a scan of his original
    > long-form Hawaiian birth certificate. Within hours, thousands of graphic
    > designers, many of whom are self-professed Obama voters and supporters,
    > isolate and demonstrate with dozens of objective proof sets that the PDF
    > released by the Obama regime is not just a forgery, but an astoundingly
    > incompetent and obvious forgery.
    > April 27 through May 2: The Obama regime is now in a blind panic.
    > Deeming it too risky, instead of commissioning the forged birth
    > certificate from document and photo illustration experts within the CIA
    > or NSA, the Obama regime instead farmed the project off on someone
    > Inside the White House with a functional but middling knowledge of photo
    > Illustration programs. To the thoroughly inexpert eyes of Barack Obama,
    > Michelle Obama and Valerie Jarrett, the forged certificate file appeared
    > extremely convincing,
    > and was thus released with fanfare. Within hours, they knew that they
    > had not only made a mistake, but a massive mistake that could land them
    > all in prison. The forger was so incompetent that he/she didn’t even
    > flatten the image thus compressing and masking the component layers
    > before posting it.
    > And that was just the tip of the iceberg of glaring flaws and errors.
    > The mainstream press was, so far, completely complicit in the cover-up
    > of the forgery, but Rathergate proved that if the forgery debunking
    > generated any mainstream traction whatsoever, the end could come
    > swiftly. The Obama regime needed a big distraction and they needed it
    > fast. They had been planning on holding the staged Bin Laden capture and
    > killing until 2012 — for the thick of the campaign, and perhaps as an
    > “October Surprise”, but it would have to be moved up to now.
    > May 2, 2011: The Bin Laden operation occurs. In all likelihood, a
    > low-to-mid level Taliban or insurgent leader is killed.
    > May 3, 2011: Within hours, Vice President Joe Biden destroys any notions
    > of OPSEC and bellows to the entire world in public remarks at a dinner
    > at the Ritz Carlton that the Bin Laden raid was carried out by “the
    > SEALS”. Within hours Obama regime had gleefully leaked that the raid was
    > carried out by “SEAL Team 6″, also known as DEVGRU. Up until this point
    > in history, all DEVGRU activities and information had been highly
    > classified. Now the term “SEAL Team 6″ was blasted across every
    > newspaper in the world, with Disney even moving to trademark the name.
    > The Obama regime wanted the ENTIRE WORLD to know the name “SEAL Team 6″.
    > May 5, 2011: As I said earlier, I conversed with retired military
    > contact with spook contacts regarding the obvious theatrics of the Bin
    > Laden episode and the need for a cover-up by the Obama regime. The
    > conversation ended with the following exchange:
    > Ann: I’m on the US Military casualty email list. It would be NO PROBLEM
    > to “hide” casualties. It’s a steady stream out of Afghanistan.
    > Contact: look for training accidents in the eastern mountains.
    > May 6, 2011: Obama travels to Ft. Campbell, KY to openly “meet and
    > congratulate” SEAL Team 6 members. This receives huge press coverage,
    > and the press declares the incident “a huge boost [for Obama] going into
    > 2012.” Video citation here:
    > [see link in linked article]
    > *The Execution of SEAL Team Six (Part 2)*
    > Posted by Ann Barnhardt – August 6, AD 2011 4:07 PM MST
    > August 6, 2011: A Chinook helo is shot down in Tangi, Wardak Province,
    > Afghanistan. Within hours, before family notifications could possibly
    > have been completed, global press accounts positively confirm that 22 of
    > the 30 Americans killed were not just SEALS, but members of SEAL Team 6.
    > Again, DEVGRU operations have been, up until now, highly classified.
    > Today, the Obama regime made a point of immediately revealing the unit
    > identities of the SPECOPS forces among the dead.
    > In the past, DEVGRU men and other SPECOPS men have been killed in
    > action, but their missions were so secret and so crucial to OPSEC that
    > their deaths were covered-up by the government and attributed to such
    > things as “training accidents” and the like — and I have no problem
    > with that. These men understand going in to intense units such as DEVGRU
    > that OPSEC is paramount, that they will never be publicly acknowledged
    > for their heroism, and that if they are killed or captured in action,
    > the government will lie about that in order to protect OPSEC and to
    > prevent the enemy from gaining a propaganda and morale coup. Compare
    > that reality with what happened today. The Obama regime distributed this
    > information, and the Obama regime’s lapdog press instantly splashed
    > headlines declaring this as the Taliban’s “REVENGE” for the “death of
    > Bin Laden.”
    > As I write this now, the Drudge Report headline in bright red reads,
    > “REVENGE: SEALS WHO GOT OSAMA KILLED IN AFGHANISTAN.”
    > I’ll say what everyone else is thinking but is too scared to say. The
    > Obama regime is almost certainly directly complicit in these deaths. The
    > time, location and most especially, the PASSENGERS in the Chinook were
    > passed to the Taliban. Additionally, you can’t take out a Chinook with
    > small arms fire or even standard RPGs such as the Taliban use. The
    > Taliban needed serious weaponry to take this helo down, and that serious
    > weaponry needed to be in exactly the right spot at exactly the right
    > time, ready to fire.
    > Why would the Obama regime kill Americans? I think the question is, why
    > WOULDN’T the Obama regime kill Americans? The Obama regime is composed
    > of Marxist-Leninist psychopaths. A glancing, superficial survey of 20th
    > century history shows one glaring fact above all others: MARXISTS MURDER
    > PEOPLE WITHOUT COMPUNCTION. Marxists also hate Americans, by definition.
    > Three tacks:
    > 1. The men on board the Chinook may have been the same men who
    > participated or had direct knowledge of the staged Bin Laden raid and
    > were killed to permanently silence them. See my email exchange of May 5
    > above.
    > 2. These DEVGRU men were killed to send a signal to the surviving DEVGRU
    > men who carried out the Bin Laden raid to keep their mouths shut.
    > 3. Certainly, the release of the unit identity of the dead within hours
    > before even family notification could have been made (which requires an
    > IN PERSON visit to the family, remember) was an obvious bow to Al Qaeda,
    > the Taliban and the entire muslim world. This event was INSTANTLY
    > propagandized by the Obama media as “revenge” exacted for Bin Laden’s
    > death. And remember, Bin Laden has been dead for many years. The raid of
    > May 2 was pure stagecraft to distract the world from the release of the
    > forged Obama birth certificate.
    > I am not a conspiracy theorist. I can’t stand Alex Jones or any
    > 9/11truther. I have turned down dozens of interviews with such types. In
    > fact, I am a huge believer in the Lex Parsimoniae, which is sometimes
    > called “Occam’s Razor”, which states that the simplest explanation is
    > most likely the correct one. I teach this as part of my job, namely that
    > the cattle markets are neither manipulated nor impossible to operate
    > within at a profit. The reality is that the cattle industry participants
    > do not make money because they are functionally incompetent. It is very,
    > very simple. True conspiracies are very rare.
    > This entire Obama situation is a conspiracy, and I say that without the
    > slightest hesitation. Obama is not a citizen of the United States, he is
    > a puppet front for a cabal of Marxist-Leninsts including Soros, Ayers,
    > Dohrn, Strong, Jarrett and many, many others. These people are enemies
    > of the United States. These people are deeply psychologically damaged,
    > and are capable of ordering people murdered in order to protect
    > themselves and increase their own power. The three dead homosexual black
    > men from Trinity United Church of Christ, Young, Bland and Spencer, all
    > of whom were sexually linked to Barack Obama, were probably the first
    > people specifically murdered by the Obama regime. The hundreds of
    > Mexicans and the two American agents Terry and Zapata were murdered by
    > Operation Fast and Furious in order to
    > advance and increase the power of the Obama regime. These SEALS and the
    > others on board that Chinook today were almost certainly betrayed and
    > murdered by the Obama regime.
    > Why did the Obama regime immediately reveal the unit identity of the
    > SPECOPS forces involved in the first place, despite the fact that DEVGRU
    > was highly classified?
    > Why was the personnel composition of the Chinook released IMMEDIATELY
    > today after the helo went down — before even family notifications could
    > be made? WHY?
    > Why would you hand your enemy, Al Qaeda and the Taliban, a massive
    > propaganda coup? WHY?
    > I’ll tell you why. Because the Obama regime IS THE ENEMY. They are
    > Marxist tyrants who hold the lives of Americans not just cheap, but in
    > scathing contempt. They will say anything, they will do anything, and
    > they will murder ANYONE in order to protect themselves and consolidate
    > and increase their power. Please, I beg you, for the love of God and all
    > that is good in this world, read the history of the Soviet Union. Read
    > about Lenin and Stalin and how they murdered people without any
    > hesitation. Read about how Hitler was constantly ordering the murder of
    > his own officers. Read about Communist China. Read about Mao and the
    > millions upon tens of millions of murders he ordered. Read about the
    > killing fields of the Communist Khmer Rouge in Cambodia led by Pol Pot.
    > PLEASE.
    > Marxists MURDER PEOPLE. That is what they do. The Obama regime is
    > MARXIST to the bone. If the Obama regime is not stopped, the 30
    > Americans murdered today in Afghanistan will be just the beginning. I
    > promise you that.
    > Here, again, is the clip of Larry Grathwohl, who infiltrated the Weather
    > Underground Marxist terrorist organization in the 1970s. The Weather
    > Underground was founded by Obama’s political godfather, communist mentor
    > (along with Frank Marshall Davis), murderer, and ghostwriter of “Dreams
    > From My Father”, Bill Ayers and his wife Bernardine Dohrn. In this
    > interview, taped in 1980 while Obama was still just an unknown undergrad
    > foreign scholarship student at Occidental College, Grathwohl describes
    > the leadership of the Weather Underground (which is Ayers and Dohrn)
    > discussing what will be done with the “unreformable, diehard
    > capitalists” once they have overthrown the government of the United
    > States. The answer is extermination in camps in the Southwest. The
    > estimated total that would need to be killed? 25 million, which
    > was 10% of the population at the time.
    > *Ayers & Dohrn already have overthrown the government of the United
    > States via their puppet protégé, Barack Obama. They have
    > guaranteed that the economy will collapse. The only thing left for them
    > to do is suspend the Constitution and open the camps. I’ll see you there.

    • come-and-take-it

      Everyone who reads this should forward it and ask that the recipients forward it. A sad day for America, a wake-up call for Americans. Remember SEAL Team 6…

      • eddie47d

        That list might have been important if it was true. It tells us what is wrong with the extremists who print such trash.

    • Earl

      Two points need answers.

      1)If the 3 choppers that came to Bin Laden’s alleged hideout had only one landing, and the one that DID crashed and burned, How did they get away from there with “Bin Laden” intact and bury him at sea a thousand miles to the south??

      2) You are the only other person I’ve seen that knew of DEVGRU. Seal team 6 was disbanded in 1987 and got the new name. Wouldn’t that be a job for ordinary rangers? And why the hell put so many Seals in one aircraft at the same time? I also think it was a setup and a sympathy generator.

      • Mary

        Soon the homo-psychopaths will take the rest of the Seals. In this case the best Seal is the dead one. Look like we are brainless for those bastards in the government. Revenge for killing a dead man (Bin Laden)the terrorists at the right place at the right time. Somebody sent them a present.

  • come-and-take-it

    and a word for Personal Liberty. Passing this kind of codswallop along to subscribers as if it is “news” demeans the effort you should be making to expose this kind of chicanery in government. MSM is consistently in bed with the liars in the administration so please don’t pass their garbage along as if it were factual. Facts? What facts? This part of the fairy tale just brings closure to the governments story about a terrible injustice. I can’t believe the military is standing by for this blatant waste of good men. Our military has turned into a hierarchy of pussies. I am ashamed to have served.

    Vietnam Vet 69-72 puh!

  • skyskiers

    RE: GREG: YOU FORGOT TO INCLUDE ANN BARNHARDTS LINK. HERE IT IS!

    The Execution of SEAL Team Six (Part 1)
    Posted by Ann Barnhardt – August 6, AD 2011 4:08 PM MST
    You’re damn right I said it.

    To access her website click on the link.
    http://barnhardt.biz/index.cfm

    On May 5th I had an email conversation with a retired military man with spook contacts. All were in total agreement that the Bin Laden episode was pure theater. The SEALS were sent into a compound as evidenced by the lost chopper on site. But Osama Bin Laden wasn’t in that compound. Osama Bin Laden has been dead for years. Bin Laden had a genetic condition that caused renal failure (this genetic condition is common among deeply inbred Saudi arab muslims). Bin Laden had been on dialysis BEFORE 9/11. Dialysis is difficult enough for people in first world countries who can have it done in outstanding facilities. Bin Laden was having it done either in caves or in homes post 9/11. People in renal failure having dialysis done in fricking caves do NOT live for ten more years. Period. There was no dialysis equipment found in the compound the SEALS raided on May 2. Of course there wasn’t. Bin Laden wasn’t in that compound because Bin Laden has been dead for years.

    This is why the “body” was declared “positively identified” faster than any known DNA testing process in existence – and this DNA testing was carried out not in a lab mind you, but inside a Chinook and/or V-22 Osprey helos en route to the USS Carl Vinson. The body was then dumped into the Indian Ocean in a mad dash to ensure that “burial” took place within 24 hours of death in order to “honor” musloid burial traditions. Not a single picture of the so-called “Bin Laden corpse” has ever been released – and never will.

    The entire Bin Laden episode was stagecraft. It was pure theater that was designed to give Obama a boost in the polls and give distraction and cover. Distract from what? Cover from what?

    April 20, 2011: The release date of Dr. Jerome Corsi’s book, “Where’s the Birth Certificate” is announced as May 17, and pre-sales begin on Amazon.com. Corsi’s work is known to be extremely thorough and meticulous. Within hours, Corsi’s book is #1 on Amazon.com – fully 28 days before its release. The Obama regime is panicked.

    April 27, 2011: In order to diffuse and undercut the Corsi book, the Obama regime releases a PDF image purported to be a scan of his original long-form Hawaiian birth certificate. Within hours, thousands of graphic designers, many of whom are self-professed Obama voters and supporters, isolate and demonstrate with dozens of objective proof sets that the PDF released by the Obama regime is not just a forgery, but an astoundingly incompetent and obvious forgery.

    April 27 through May 2: The Obama regime is now in a blind panic. Deeming it too risky, instead of commissioning the forged birth certificate from document and photo illustration experts within the CIA or NSA, the Obama regime instead farmed the project off on someone inside the White House with a functional but middling knowledge of photo illustration programs. To the thoroughly inexpert eyes of Barack Obama, Michelle Obama and Valerie Jarrett, the forged certificate file appeared extremely convincing, and was thus released with fanfare. Within hours, they knew that they had not only made a mistake, but a massive mistake that could land them all in prison. The forger was so incompetent that he/she didn’t even flatten the image thus compressing and masking the component layers before posting it. And that was just the tip of the iceberg of glaring flaws and errors. The mainstream press was, so far, completely complicit in the cover-up of the forgery, but Rathergate proved that if the forgery debunking generated any mainstream traction whatsoever, the end could come swiftly. The Obama regime needed a big distraction and they needed it fast. They had been planning on holding the staged Bin Laden capture and killing until 2012 – for the thick of the campaign, and perhaps as an “October Surprise”, but it would have to be moved up to now.

    May 2, 2011: The Bin Laden operation occurs. In all likelihood, a low-to-mid level Taliban or insurgent leader is killed.

    May 3, 2011: Within hours, Vice President Joe Biden destroys any notions of OPSEC and bellows to the entire world in public remarks at a dinner at the Ritz Carlton that the Bin Laden raid was carried out by “the SEALS”. Within hours Obama regime had gleefully leaked that the raid was carried out by “SEAL Team 6″, also known as DEVGRU. Up until this point in history, all DEVGRU activities and information had been highly classified. Now the term “SEAL Team 6″ was blasted across every newspaper in the world, with Disney even moving to trademark the name. The Obama regime wanted the ENTIRE WORLD to know the name “SEAL Team 6″.

    May 5, 2011: As I said earlier, I conversed with retired military contact with spook contacts regarding the obvious theatrics of the Bin Laden episode and the need for a cover-up by the Obama regime. The conversation ended with the following exchange:

    Ann: I’m on the US Military casualty email list. It would be NO PROBLEM to “hide” casualties. It’s a steady stream out of Afghanistan.

    Contact: look for training accidents in the eastern mountains.

    May 6, 2011: Obama travels to Ft. Campbell, KY to openly “meet and congratulate” SEAL Team 6 members. This receives huge press coverage, and the press declares the incident “a huge boost [for Obama] going into 2012.” Video citation here:

  • skyskiers

    RE: GREG: YOU FORGOT ADD THE TIP FROM AFGHANISTAN! ALSO I PUT THE WRONG LINK IN THE ABOVE POST. HERE IS ANN BARNHADRT’S CORRECDT LINK:

    http://barnhardt.biz/index.cfm

    Tip from Afghanistan
    Posted by Ann Barnhardt – August 7, AD 2011 6:57 AM MST
    I received a tip from a soldier stationed with an aviation brigade out of Jalalabad overnight.
    “Almost immediately, after news of the crash began to spread, we were placed in an internet and phone blackout. This means communication with family, friends and “others” back home, in real time, is prevented until further notice.

    However, there are also chinook pilots, crews and mechanics assigned here who were privy to the details of the crash almost immediately. One of confirmed details they have been discussing is that the chinook shot down belonged to a National Guard unit. Which is causing people to whisper in astonishment, “why were some of the most elite of America’s military, in such large numbers, tooling around on a National Guard aircraft?”

    Also, those around me are wondering why such a large number(extremely unconventional for Seals, Green Berets, etc) of them riding in a single aircraft instead of being spread out into numerous aircraft.

    Without question, I mean no disrespect to the pilots and crew of the National Guard aircraft, but the fact is that it’s very “strange” that Seals would be conducting an actual mission, with such large numbers, in such a basic aircraft. Especially, given the fact, that there were special operation chinooks easily available, and sitting idle, when this tragedy took place.”

    I am not a journalist. I have no means of checking this. But SOMEONE needs to investigate if in fact the SEALS were on a National Guard helo, if there were SPECOPS Chinooks available and idle, and what the difference in armament is between Guard Chinooks and SPECOPS Chinooks. This potential difference in armament is HUGE and could account for the possibility of the Chinook being shot down by an RPG, if that is what happened.

    Hello? Journalists? Anyone out there?

    UPDATE: The SPECOPS Chinook is a very different beast that is heavily upgraded with enhanced survivability features. It is the Boeing MH-47E/G. Boeing’s Homepage for the SPECOPS chinook here. The soldier quoted above contends that the SEALS were NOT in one of these units, but rather in a standard Chinook while these SPECOPS Chinooks were available and sitting idle. Again, a JOURNALIST needs to confirm this.

    UPDATE 2: From a reader:

    Ann,
    You are on to something here. I was in the 160th 1982- 1985 and I can tell you that the reason the aviation wing was created was so special ops would never again have to fly missions with anyone other than their own pilots and birds.

    UPDATE 3: From a reader:

    Ann, I’m sure you’re getting a lot of notes on the Chinook debacle. I’m retired USAF familiar with how the system works when it comes to the questions asked by your Jalalabad contact. First, look to the Command Authority. Dispersion protocols are almost never broken except on direct order up the chain high enough that nobody could question or refuse the order without jeopardizing their career. Second, ‘who benefits’? Follow the trail of beneficiaries to the incident. Tactically, intell had to be passed to the shooters as to the timetable. I’m willing to bet that there were several RPG’s (if not Stinger’s – remember, we provided quite a few and never kept a record during the Soviet incursion into Afghanistan) involved. Then, once fired, the shooters had to egress unseen to fight another day. Many people I know, including some recently back from that area say this story stinks to high Heaven, as you believe.

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  • http://n/a Gaffer

    Re: it wasn’t Bin Laden in the compound.
    So, why didn’t Pakistan blow the whistle on this fantasy?
    Nice story though.
    Are you writing the script for a made for tv movie?

  • skyskiers

    RE: Gaffer:

    Nope! Just blowing the whistle on your buddy ObamaCommie!

    • bob wire

      Right! and Armstrong didn’t walk on the moon.

      and I have a 7.65 NATO steel jacket ball I dug from the “grassy knoll” for sale.

  • missy Janie

    Why were all those SEALS on the same plane? Why were they on a National guard plane rather than their own special one, they were there and available. Special forces don’t travel in packs, there were way too many of them. How is it that the hapless taliban knew they were coming in order to stage the kind of take down they did.
    What is the real truth here? Who commanded them onto a chinook craft altogether, when this never happened before.
    I think this smells out loud.

    • bob wire

      read my link ~ for the official answer.

      Now where it’s true or not ~ another story.

  • http://www.kidspitchinggym.com Helen M Nanney

    The navy seals usuially work under very secret and carefully planned conditions. When their plane went down, I felt very deeply, the insurgents knew they were coming at that very time. I am very suspecious of an administration that has supported the brotherhood, with our stimulis money, here in America, Egypt, Yeamin, Lybia, etc. In each of these countries The Brotherhood, has taken over the politics, and have brutial regeme changes, more supressive against freedom the their predecesors. This administration now is sending our stimulis money to these countries, for reconstruction, and forgiving Egypt two billion promised in Obama’s trip there a month befor the trouble was instigated. I have felt all along our boys should not have been sent into a civil war. I felt they were intentionally being put in harms way, just because their is no love for our military in that part of the world. We have no reason to be in Afganistan this long. Corsei has no army to protect him, and he is at the mercy of the drug loards to go along with them Why are we there? We need at least twenty to a hundred of our 200 overseas basis home on our borders, for our safety, and to keep our soending at home. I feel like it was a set up for those navy seals to die along with the other brave soldiers. Maybe a warning! We need More Tea Party People in Washington. We should regroup and form a constitutional Party, dedicated to freedom, less government, and constitutional objectives only.

  • http://www.kidspitchinggym.com Helen M Nanney

    Sorry about the spelling. I was in a hury to go and get the kids at the Y. and did not have time to ck it.

  • http://www.kidspitchinggym.com Helen M Nanney

    I had not read all of the comments on the seal team dowened plane. before I posted the comment. Now, I feel like I will not be embaresed by the fact, I knew the minuet it was in the news, it was a planned deal. I knew as soon as the civil war, started in Egypt it was planned by the brotherhood here in America. I knew as soon as the news broke, they had killed Ben laden, it was a hoex. I knew they would dump him in the ocean, to cover up. They said in one news story, the plane was faltering, and they had to dump his body overboard. Osama Bin Laden died in 2007, in a cave on the Afaganistan border. When I am reading the news, the Lord reveals to me what is happening. Most people chide me as a consperecy theorest, but when He reveals something, it later comes out as fact,. Sometimes months later.
    Obama was found guilty by Jury on 17 counts of lying, and paying to keep information quiet, in order to get into the White house. The Judge, on this video, is so angry, as his sentence for him was ninty days to get out of the whitehouse. That was early may of 2010. The
    Military does not have to take orders from him, as the law says he is not our leagal President. That means all of His go-fers go with him and all of the laws he signed are irrelevent, and all of his agreements with the UN nil and void. It will take the Millitary and the FBI to get him out. The CIA, hirearchy I understand is of the NWO group, and un American. We cannot rely on them. Here is the video.

    A MUST listen:

    Sent: Tue, Aug 2, 2011 3:39 pm
    Subject: Fwd: Obama ignores court order to resign.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8h0EdpvZ23s

    Also:

    Pass around America. Very important this judge has our support.

    We need to get our military out of his control. Their lives are too precious to lose any more.

  • http://www.kidspitchinggym.com Helen M Nanney

    This is revelant to this subject as it proves what those in the Whit house are capable of. Japan’s nuclear plaNT WAS AT A .4 AND PEOPLE HAVE GOTTEN SICK FROM ITS EXPOSURE. Japans is at .5 now and they say it has blown. Our military have families in that area. No one has been told of this danger in that area. I tried TV and news papers, and heard nothing. Please all read this. You may have family there or may be eating contaminated livestock poltry, or fish.That whole watershed of the Missouri river, Mississippi river, and three rivers in montana, have water from this nuclear plant region. There are seven plants and many dams on this watershed. it is a disaster kept under disguise. It is fustrating. Do not start a riot, as Obama has the Un forces in America. watch the video, I went national with on June 28th and 29 th, on chanel 11 cable, four times. Very little response.

    FROM THE IAEA: International Atomic Energy Agency:

    Governments withheld danger of Nuke disaster at Nebraska ‘s crippled plant. Now water levels risk a fall out. The Nation Newspaper Sunday, June 19, 2011 ….Obama’s DHS orders news blackout over crippled Nebraska Nuclear Plant: A shocking report prepared by Russia’s Federal Atomic Energy Agency (FAAE) on information provided to them by the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) states that the Obama regime has ordered a “total and complete” news blackout relating to any information regarding the near catastrophic meltdown of the Fort Calhoun Nuclear Power Plant located in Nebraska.

    According to this report, The Fort Calhoun Nuclear Plant suffered a “catastrophic loss of cooling” to one of its idle spent fuel rod pools on 7 June after this plant was deluged with water caused by the historic flooding of the Missouri River which resulted in a fire causing the Federal Aviation Agency (FAA) to issue a “no-fly ban” over the area. Located about 20 minutes outside downtown Omaha, the largest city in Nebraska, the Fort Calhoun Nuclear Plant is owned by Omaha Public Power District (OPPD) who on their website denies their plant is at a “Level 4″ emergency by stating: “This terminology is not accurate, and is not how emergencies at nuclear power plants are classified.”

    Russian atomic scientists in this FAAE report, however, say that this OPPD statement is an “outright falsehood” as all nuclear plants in the world operate under the guidelines of the International Nuclear and Radiological Event Scale (INES) which clearly states the “events” occurring at the Fort Calhoun Nuclear Power Plant do, indeed, put it in the “Level 4″ emergency category of an “accident with local consequences” thus making this one of the worst nuclear accidents in US history. Though this report confirms independent readings in the United States of “negligible release of nuclear gasses” related to this accident it warns that by the Obama regimes censoring of this event for “political purposes” it risks a “serious blowback” from the American public should they gain knowledge of this being hidden from them. Complete Story

    @http://www.dailypaul.com/168252/fort-calhoun-nuclear-power-plant-omaha-n e-suf…

    OUR COUNTRY IN GRAVE DANGER: PROOF BELOW: Sent: Mon, Jul 4, 2011 4:38 pm Subject: Fwd:

    Update on danger: http://shoebat.com/videos/jihadInUSA.php

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6FRvEd-Cfs&feature=share

    The fall out is in the water, air, food, livestock, and will reach our grocery stores.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6FRvEd-_Cfs&feature=share

    Part 1 These is the video I went nation wide with. two parts for
    U-tube.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YJ1KT4h4PI4

    Part 2
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PEtBhhlZ2YA

    After sending out a hundred e-mails, I finally got hold of the South dekota STATE agency for keeping food safe. Hopefully they will test all of this. So far, the government cover up, has not kept the people informed, and the News is controled.

  • http://www.kidspitchinggym.com Helen M Nanney

    Gaffer; You just do not get it. Obama and the muslem countries, including Pakistan are in bed with each other, that America is the big Satin. All Americans and Jews should be anniliated. The Communist way is to mind control the masses, with unbelivable lies, until it seems the truth. They have mind controled our kids through the school systeum. Now they control most of the media, they are mind controling so many people, who just do not want to believe the truth, as they have been so mesmerized in his smooth talk, and looks and what ever. But I believe more and more everyday are waking up. Let us hope it is not too late. We cannot wait until 2012 elections. He won’t.

    I shurder to think what he will pull off while Congress takes a break. Get our Military to get him out of there NOW. It will be too late if we wait too long.

  • http://www.kidspitchinggym.com Helen M Nanney

    I hope the guy owning this site, keeps all of this information. Their is not many places to get our information out. Face book sold out to them about a month ago, and all of the information I had on my site is gone. Ck out winapaga. They all have Muslem names.

  • dea

    Obama was told about Osama after it was too late to stop it. Letting the enemy know which seals did it was payback. He has a high IQ. Do you think it was a mistake? He speaks about how Islam was always with us in our country?

    I just never feel either Obama or Eric holder work for us. Did you see the video of Holder trying to create hate crime legislation for us? The Politicians asked him which states failed to prosecute that. Holder seemed to be unable to show even one. May be a clue to this team there.

    Ever see how our soldiers greeted President Bush with wild cheers?
    Don’t expect to see it with Obama visiting them.

  • http://PersonalLibertyDigest Wiselady

    8-11-11

    First, my prayers and love for devotion to their country, shown by our brave men/women is extended to the families of their loved ones who died for our freedom. The enemy is an ugly animal, as is written in the scriptures. I grieve with them.

    But, the deceitful enemy knows that our troops fight with one hand behind their backs….the liberals in Congress saying, “the troops, (Americans), are killing innocent women and children”! Does anyone remember who said that? The liberal Congressmen and women!!

    Who is giving the Taliban the weapons they used? And how did they know when to shoot the rocket? An investigation is imminent immediately to get to the source of who is providing the rockets to the Taliban. To get rid of acancer, you must first get to the source!

    But…..Obama is on vacation , spending $50,000 a week, probably at the tax payers expense. Imagine how many jobs would have been created if he had gone to vacation in some poor district in Washinton D.C. in some humble hotel, and get into a swimming pool with youngsters in the neighborhood where he could splash himself with some humble attitudes.

    Thanks, Dea, for saying what has been in my thoughts. THE TWO must be removed from office. Is Holder spending tax payers money to support all the countries filing law suits against Arizona, or is he on our side? We must find out!!! Why isn’t Sen. MaCain yelling about this issue?

  • Bambucha

    Why is nothing ever mentioned about how the incident at Mecca was handled by the Saudi regime? That seems to be the best way to handle ‘these’ people.
    How was it handled?
    Relayed to me by someone who was in-country as a civilian, ‘The 300 or so people found to have been involved were executed along with 10 or more family members; just for being family members.’
    I have never actually tried looking it up; but observing how ‘their’ law works, I find this plausible and probably doable. After all, as they like to say,’Your laws are not(Sharia) our laws; do not presume to judge us with your laws’.
    Just enforce their laws like they would, then GTFO of there, and let them settle their own affairs.

  • Sebring

    A RPG-7 cannot bring down for sure a Chinook, but a Russian Kornet E, or Chinese HJ-9B can.
    The Kornet (Russian: “Корнет”; English: Cornet) is a Russian anti-tank missile (ATGM). It is a second generation ATGM intended to deal with main battle tanks and to engage slow and low flying helicopters. The 9M133 missile together with its 9P163-1 tripod launcher and 1PN79-1 thermal sight forms the 9K123 missile system, the 9K123 can be c
    arried and operated by a two-person infantry crew.
    Weight 27 kg (29 kg with launch tube)
    Length 1200 mm
    Diameter 152 mm
    Warhead weight 7 kg HEAT, 10 kg TNT equivalent
    Operational range 100-5500m
    Guidance system SACLOS laser beam riding
    Combat history
    During the 2003 invasion of Iraq, Kornets were used by some groups of Iraqi special forces to attack American armoured vehicles, “disabling at least two Abrams tanks and one Bradley armored troop carrier in the opening week of the war.
    The second verified episode of Kornet ATGM in combat use occurred during the 2006 Lebanon War, where the missiles, reportedly supplied by Syria, were successfully used by Hezbollah fighters to destroy up to two Israeli Merkava tanks, and damage a number of others. I might be wrong but Kornet E proved to do the job Right.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/9M133_Kornet

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