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U.N. Using Climate to Push One World Government Reforms

November 16, 2009 by  

U.N. Using Climate to Push One World Government Reforms

With assaults on our nation’s freedoms and liberties coming from so many directions at the same time it is difficult to characterize one as being more dangerous than another. But a United Nations (U.N.) gathering scheduled for Dec. 7 – 18 may hold more lasting ramifications to U.S. sovereignty than anything the republic has ever faced.

That’s when the first overt attempt at establishing the framework of a One World Government will occur.

The U.N. Climate Change Conference is currently drafting a treaty that, if signed by President Barack Obama and ratified by the U.S. senate, would place the U.S. under an unelected, undemocratic world body that could impose taxes and place limits on industry, transportation, mining and energy production in order to limit carbon emissions.

Global warming zealots from around the world are scheduled to gather in Copenhagen, Denmark to try and suck billions of dollars from the U.S. economy and the economies of other industrialized nations and spread that money around to developing countries, all in the name of saving the planet.

As The Washington Times editorialized on Oct. 27:

“The treaty’s text is not yet finalized but its principles are aimed at regulating all economic activity in the name of climate security, with a side effect that billions of dollars would be transferred from productive countries to the unproductive.
“The control lever is the regulation of carbon emissions, which some purport are causing global warming. The treaty would establish a carbon market Regulatory Agency and “global carbon budget for each country.
“In effect, this would allow the treaty’s governing bodies to limit manufacturing, transportation, travel, agriculture, mining, energy production and anything else that emits carbon—like breathing.”

One of the few people sounding the alarm on this sinister conference is climate expert and foe of global warming alarmist Al Gore, Lord Christopher Monckton, former science advisor to British Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher.

“I read that treaty,” Monckton told the Minnesota Free Market Institute as posted on wattsupwiththat.com, “And what it says is this, that a world government is going to be created. The word ‘government’ actually appears as the first of three purposes of the new entity. The second purpose is the transfer of wealth from the other countries of the West to third world countries, in satisfaction of what is called, coyly, ‘climate debt,’ because we’ve been burning CO2 and they haven’t. We’ve been screwing up the climate and they haven’t. And the third purpose of this new entity, this government, is enforcement.”

The most recently-released copy of the treaty can be found here. Section 38 mentions government and outlines how it will be framed and financed.

The treaty is still a work in progress even though the U.N. Framework Convention on Climate Change had planned to have it finalized before the opening of the conference.

Obama first said he wouldn’t attend the conference unless the treaty is finalized. But he began backtracking on that statement last week, saying if his presence could push the deal through he would attend.

Hoping to spur a deal, California Senator Barbara Boxer in early November decided to pass a climate change bill out of committee without Republican support.

Without a clear indication from legislation of how much the U.S. is willing to contribute, the treaty probably won’t be finalized in time. Some other industrialized nations are also balking at the cost and regulations in the treaty, prompting U.N. climate Chief Yvo de Boer to say he didn’t think a legally binding agreement could be passed during the upcoming conference, but he thought one could be reached within a year.

Notice his use of the term, “legally binding.” That’s what they’re after, because once the treaty is signed by the president and ratified by the senate, any hope of America extricating itself from the agreement is gone.

“You can’t resign from the treaty unless you get agreement from all the other state parties,” Monckton said. “And because you’ll be the biggest paying country, they’re not going to let you out of it.”

And don’t think Obama won’t sign an agreement if it can be finalized. He’s signified he’s all in on the global warming boondoggle. And the Democrats only need to persuade six Republicans to join them to ratify the treaty.

Arizona Senator John McCain, South Carolina Senator Lindsey Graham (who began working Nov. 5 to help draft compromise Cap and Trade legislation) and Maine Senators Olympia Snowe and Susan Collins are likely defectors.

Signing such a treaty and ratifying it into law would be an unconstitutional ceding of U.S. sovereignty to another entity. But what’s one more unconstitutional act in Washington?

Bob Livingston

is an ultra-conservative American and author of The Bob Livingston Letter™, founded in 1969. Bob has devoted much of his life to research and the quest for truth on a variety of subjects. Bob specializes in health issues such as nutritional supplements and alternatives to drugs, as well as issues of privacy (both personal and financial), asset protection and the preservation of freedom.

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  • PAUL

    This is it folks!!!!!!!!!!!! One world government, now we know that Obama IS the ANTI-CHRIST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    DO YOU KNOW WHAT HIS FAVORITE NUMBER IS
    6 6 6 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • http://home.att.net/~a.campanella/index.html Angelo Campanella

      You got that one right! Because of Obama’s early years in Indonesia, he is imbibed with Islamic logic, and now has in mind allegiances to other nations. This “world Treaty” stuff is a direct descendant of such thoughts. Why we as a nation still allow him to continue as president after this past years’s insults by him to our sovereignty is beyond me: Not wanting to keep the islands of Wrangell, Herald, Bennett, Jeannette and Henrietta, on which US claims were staked by US vessels over a century ago during the Whaling era, the apology for our patriotic acts, his insults to European rulers, his arrogance for accepting an unearned peace prize, his silence on the major killings at Fort Hood where he instead acknowledged the sacrifices by the dead, as if to approve this as a tribute to Islam, his wanting to close Gitmo; and the list continues to grow. Even Joe Biden can do a better job of defendingour Country’s future.

      • john larry

        I don’t consider our president representing our interest. I feel he is anti american, and controlled by an out side entity. Health care, is not about Health care, but destroying the dollar. If this trillion dollar enterprise passes; the social upheaval that it will produce nationally, will cause massive inflation. If China and other countries decide not to accept our currency,then we will have unimaginable inflation.

        • denniso

          you’re buying into all this crap about Obama being unamerican that is spouted by overt or closet rascists intent on destroying his presidency for their political and monetary gain…it’s garbage and dangerous talk that can incite a kook to do what most of you would like to see done to Obama. You’d better think about what you’re being a part of.
          And, are you not aware that 47 million people have no health coverage,thousands die every yr from lack of healthcare and another 50 million are way underinsured?? And YOU don’t think healthcare reform is about health?? Try to think just a little on your own, and quit spreading lies and hysteria..please!

          • DaveH

            You and Obama are the racists. You are also a donkey.

          • Becky

            There’s DaveH calling people names again. Anyone that isn’t brainwashed like he is he calls names and trys to be little. What a guy!

          • Roger

            you can always tell the liberals, first thing they do is to start the name calling, then they show their intelligence by blindly believing anything a democrat has to say. then they say we need to think on our own! racist,where dose a liberal get off calling a conservative a racist?

          • Jana

            Call your Senator today on whether you want the Senate to vote on whether or not to have a discussion on this Health Care Bill. They are voting on this tomorrow, Sat.the 21st. If they vote yes, it is almost a positive that it will go through.

          • http://Yahoo Dee D

            denniso – How many posters here really know which President first bought into the OWO and brought it up at a summit meeting?
            Would they bother to check it our or would be willing to believe it if they were to learn?
            I doubt it!!!!!

          • Bennito xRatti

            In my opinion, Obama is a fraudulent imposter- – at least until he Proves he eligible for the presidency. In my opinion, Global Warming is a Bald faced Lie,Obama is a Bald Faced Marxist Liar. Incidentally, Global warming has recently been outed as just that- – Fraud, Lies and intentional manipulation of fact to support the Communist/Marxis/”Fascist/Progressive statist Political dogma
            Moreover, this president has malice against the United States. I do not know if that results from his being forced to attend Muslim schools in indonesia.

            xRatti

          • http://Yahoo Dee D

            Here we go again. I feel Obama has bought into the One World Order as well as the rest of our elite representatives. George Bush Sr brought up the plan at a Summit during his time in office, but of course it’s all Obama’s doing. This has been on the books quite awhile now. Why no yelling earlier folks? Oh, I know, Obama wasen’t the president then..

          • http://Yahoo Dee D

            Armageddon is a lot closer than most realize. The Anti-Christ will fight with everything he’s got, but he already knows he’s lost the battle. A lot of good people will be killed and maimed. After that comes the New Jerusalem. Many will be called but few will be chosen. So we really should prepare ourselves. I pray we all make it.

          • dan of arizona

            denniso what is that some kind of tree hugger name or is it some one that dosent like this country or its ways why not just leave or just come to arizona and look me up i might just be one of those crazies out there that is a real citizen that is not out to destroy this country we all have fought for this country and gave our blood so you and your kind can sit there and try to make it a socialist dictator driven country that have failed in every country in the world what a brilliant idea it makes total sense why didnt we think of it before

        • Jana

          John L
          I agree with you that this health care bill is NOT about health care, it is about government control. There are too many other GREAT ideas out there that would work so much better than the government taking this project over that will cost the United States so much money, and give control over to a few.

          I have truly tried to find some redeeming quality to you denniso, but you represent the obnoxious part of your party so well,and you seem so unhappy in your life. You rant and rave so much. I find myself feeling sorry for you.

      • http://www.avoice-in-the-wildernis.blogspot.com Chris Bester

        I live in South Africa under a Communist regime.so to speak!
        Our freedom was surrendered to the ANC, which were taken over by the SACP.So subtly that they didn’t even realize it.
        Our hope for survival vests in a Democratic US Government, but alas it seems that even the mighty USA has fallen prey to the Commies.
        As a complete outsider I see no light at the end of the tunnel for your citizens.
        By the way what are the US people doing about this sad state of affairs or have they accepted their fate much like my people in South Africa have?

        • George Manning

          Many Americans are ambivalent, believing that in the USA no harm can come to our citizens because of our prominence and trust in our leaders.

          The truth is better understood outside of our Country. People depend on the USA for a sort of balance. Countries depended on the”almighty dollar”. They used it as an international currency. This is no longer the case. Other countries are now hastening to get rid of dollars held in exchange for sound commodities so that wealth will not slip from current levels; not so Americans; they are locked into our currency, unable to afford escape into safer holdings. Americans are now living from day to day, while our Government is spreading more worthless paper backed with a failing trust in its diminishing value.

          We are seeing a secret slippage of American sovereignty into a world government collective that will press down on our liberties and entrepreneurial creativity.

          We don’t yet see the immense danger of losing our freedoms here.

          Any enlightenment coming to us from abroad may help Americans to see that our form of government is a beacon to the rest of the world. Our loss will effect any possibility for uplifting the freedom of peoples throughout the world.

          This global warming hoax, even if slightly true, is being used to further bring to the foreground, a world government, a world currency, and a control over the world’s citizenry unlike anything ever experienced world wide. We will all be losers unless we stop the direction of this subtle movement.

          Here at home, we must react to halt this unbridled take-over.

          Thanks for your concern.

    • chuck

      Paul I think Obama is laying the ground work for the the Anti Christ.
      Charles

      • Jana

        I know he isn’t the anti-Christ, but he sure is laying the foundation for him. Obama is a front runner for the anti-Christ.

        If we were to meet him he would probably be a very likable individual, but as President? No way. He is despicable and wrong for our country.
        No, he sure doesn’t look out for our interests. He thinks he is President of the world.
        He made a fool of himself in China. He went over and bowed to the Heads of State and he even did it wrong and they wouldn’t even show it in their own media because they were ashamed at the way he did it.

    • Jan

      Wow, Paul…I thought I was the only one thinking this mad man was the Anti-Christ…it was obvious to me when he commanded the crowds when running for President. All the signs were there and still no one caught on to him. Now, the light is showing on him and people are waking up big time. Please stay awake and stand up this evil…God is on our side.

      • Curtis S

        Why is God on YOUR side? How would you know? I thought God was on Israel’s side? What about Allah (praise be unto him)? Who’s side is he on? Wait, God is Allah. Oh all this made-up religious silliness is just too confusing. You can’t all be right, which means some of you must be lying or delusional.

        • Joe H.

          Curtis,
          One thing I DO know is Islam is not on my side!!! As a non-believer I am under a death threat according to the Koran!

        • Jana

          Muhammad took a lot of what the Bible says and twisted it. God and Allah are not the same.
          From the way you talk you are Islamic. That is fine, it is your choice. Muhammad told you to follow the Bible also, but then he decided that God was calling him to be His avenger. That is when he separated from the One True God. God does not need anyone being his avenger.
          According to Islam very few women can make it to heaven.
          I could go on, but I do not want to put your faith down, please have the same respect for us. I will respond to you with the same respect you respond on here for us, and I do know and study the Qu’ran, so I can respond!

          • Kim

            Do the muslims ever mention Jesus in the Koran?

          • Joe H.

            Jana,
            what about the 21 virgins each martyr will be greeted by? must be a lot of them as many as we made into one!!!! I hope we keep making the terrorists into virgin meeters!!

          • coal miner

            Jana and kim,

            God and Allah are the same.
            Christ:A very important Prophet in the Koran.
            Mary and Joeseph:
            Moses:
            Gabriel the angel:
            Abraham:
            Adam and Eve:
            Satan:
            Where do you get all this?All these characters I mentioned are in the Koran.Lets start respecting other people and their religions.We can solve a lot problems,by doing that.

          • American Citizen

            Jana, you are correct. God and Allah are not the same. The Muslims view of God is different from that if the Christians. The Koran is based upon the Old Testament which, as you say, Mohammed twisted to his own views. “Vengeance is mine, says the Lord.” God does not force anyone to believe in Him. Forced belief is no belief at all. it’s compliance to keep from punishment. A childish belief. They also do not believe that God still interacts with man, that is, a personal God. Christians believe unless you carry Him in your heart, faith is dead.

          • Jana

            Joe haven’t you heard they are really 21 Virginians. LOL

          • Jana

            Thank you American Citizn, I couldn’t have said it better.
            Also if God and Allah are the same then why would they call us infidels for worshiping God? Why would they demand that we all convert to Islam?
            I will repeat Islam is a religion by man for man. Not by women and definitely not for women. Women have been brainwashed so that they have no choice, but it is against women. Women are property, and lowly property at that.

          • coal miner

            Jana,

            How come the word God is used over in Iran?They say God is great.I heard pentecostal preachers called Catholics and Baptists infidels.A woman was elected Prime minister of Pakistan,both men and women voted for her.This is a Moslem country.

          • Jana

            Coal miner I can’t nor will respond to that because I have not heard this. I do not even know you so you could be fabricating all of this.

          • libertytrain

            Jana – keep in mind the Coal Miner’s reference to the lovely Pakistani female Prime Minister -Benazir Bhutto (was prime minister for a brief time in 1988 before she was forced to flee the country – she had a horrific history in her beloved Pakistan – So, they elected a woman in 1988 – made her flee the country then -assassinated her (2 months) after her return in 2007 – as she was running for office once again -

            Catholics have been called infidels or names similar by the Baptists as well – however one needs to do some research to see where all these other Christian religions sprouted from – it is all so silly – In my town – they had to put clear windows on the Catholic Church because some of the Baptist Churches thought they were sacrificing human beings – People are so peculiar.

          • http://Yahoo Dee D

            Jana – At the tower of Babel God learned first hand just how mankind was not able to work together to prosper.
            So he sent them all to different parts of the world he created. In doing so each tribe subscribed to their own personal agenda’s.
            Could that be one reason we have such a variety of religious branches?
            I’m personally not intelligent enough to say which is right and which is wrong.
            But I also believe if everyone would do their best to subscribe and live by the original Commandments, then we just may get to inherit and live together in the promised New Jerusalem. The decision is ours alone to make. Many will be called, but few will be chosen.

        • coal miner

          Curtis,

          Well said:Respect for others and their religiouws belief.

          • Jana

            I notice the ones who want the respect will not give the respect. It is only respect and tolerance for what YOU think, no one else.

          • http://Yahoo Dee D

            Jana and coal miner – Could the word Infidel in the Muslim or Islamic vocabulary mean Hypocrite? Something to think about and I must plead ignorance to knowing their language.
            However my God explains how hard it is for an hypocrite to make it into heaven.

      • denniso

        You people spouting this anti christ baloney don’t realize it makes you sound like total id__ts!! Wake up and open your eyes and brains for once..quit spewing these idiocies!!

        • Jana

          denniso, you have told us before that you were educated. Then if you are so smart, why don’t you just skip the posts that bother you?
          You need to watch your blood pressure.

          • coal miner

            Jana,

            You religious nuts got a bad habit calling people liars.A woman was priminister of that country.Liberty backs up what I said.Religion is everybody’s choice,but people like you turn it into something ugly.Years ago a Catholic family move next door to a pentecostal family.Their kids got harass at school and their house got broken into,a sign said Infidel was placed in their living room,they sold their place and left in fear.The state police investigated and found out indeed the pentecostal family were behind it.No charges were filed.

          • Jana

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            Coal Miner, I am so sorry that you have had some bad experiences. A lot of people do things in the name of “religion” and even in the name of God that is not Godly at all.
            What happened was wrong.
            People all over the world do things “in the name of…..” whatever, but it does not mean they represent whatever they are doing it in the name of that organization. That just gives them a reason so they can hate someone. Or as is true in many cases, others label them and put them in these catagories.
            Just like with Obama. I don’t hate the man. He is very likable and I don’t want anything to happen to him, but I do not agree with his goals for this country.
            Yet you resort to calling me a religious nut. Sir, you are not even acting like a gentleman.

    • Skye

      Obama is not the anti-Christ…read your Bible…this is definitely a step closer, but he’s not it…

      • http://Yahoo Dee D

        Skye – I wonder if the anti christ is still chained in the pit God chained him in to give mankind 1000 years to decide which direction he was to travel. Maybe he’s ready to turn him loose on us. Maybe he’s stepping in to help us once more. A couple of deaths and several not running for re-election. Is God trying to save a few good ones or cleaning out some chaf? Interesting.

    • james riley

      these people better get ready for a real fight. i served my country and i will not let the un take anything except my life because i will fight again to protect it and if it mean going to new york with gun in hand then let it be i will be there along with million of ex veteran go get ready un and if it mean going to washinton after that so be it

      • http://www.easyinvest.co.za pete

        I am from South Africa James and I shall be right by your side on this one! Let them give it their best shot!
        I will take them out so fast they’ll think they are surrounded – Go USA – time to stand up against these ………no words to describe them-sorry!

      • Jana

        I will even come. I am not about to bow down to anyone, nor submit. I will fight with all my might. Teach me to use a gun and I will use it, I am not afraid to die for my country either.
        Bless you brave men.

        • denniso

          You guys are looney! Where was all this hate and violence when Shrub was wrecking the world,spending you into debt after inheriting a surplus,and tapping your phone and computers?? Why did you meekly follow the moron home wrecker like little sheep and not utter a sound? Now you yap about anti christ crap and using violence on anyone you disagree with. I can only hope that you’re all being surveiled for making threats of violence!!

          • DaveH

            You are just a trouble-making sycophantic donkey, Denniso. Do you really think the people on this board care about your opinion?

          • American Citizen

            DennisO, tell me, if you had been President when 9/11 happened, what would you have done? How would you have kept this country safe after that? It’s so easy to make accusations, but what were your solutions?

          • Jana

            denniso, Unlike you who are being led around by the nose by your master Obama, I have never meekly followed anyone, including Bush. He was right in some things and wrong in others. I wrote letters to him and to my representatives telling them so. I wrote letters to the editor of my newspaper.

            From what you say it makes you sound like you have so much fear. God must be really dealing with you for you to spout off like you do. You sound like someone who is trying to convince himself. Otherwise if their truly was no God, why would it bother you so much?

          • Linda L Hill

            Sir, to answer your question, President Bush and his Administration did not go around Spuing Communistic rederic all over the place, like some of Obama’s Administration, Czars or advisors do! Does someone need to draw you a picture?

          • http://Yahoo Dee D

            It’s okay denniso – I believe in the Conspiracy theory myself. When the truth comes out there will be a lot of surprised people. All truths will stand while all liers will blow with the wind.

    • Anna

      And so WHERE is the CONSTITUTION in all of this One World Government hullaballoo? NO where! I think we need to IMPEACH Obama, Pelose and REID now for all the subversive tactics to under mind the U.S. govt’ all in the name of change, Obamacare, etc (that we and no one else wants) It is all about control and we are being sucked in one day at a time, like a from in warm water water and the boil point cooks the poor FROG. No, thanks, Mr. President.

      • Eddy

        Back in the 70′s when I was in the Marines,I went to Little Rock ark. with a buddy. He drove us out ti the middle of no where. There was a huge fenced in area. Acres and acres of military tanks, Trucks, armored personnel carriers. Thousands of them. The thing that bothered me most, and still does today……They all were U.N. marked. Never did find out why the were there. But to be on the safe side stock pile your ammo. 9mm and 5.56mm and it wouldn’t be dumb to add a few hundred rounds of .40s&w and 7.62mm. You can’t stock pill a bunch of guns to expensive and heavy. But in the marines the 1 thing they stressed ,when in a hostile govt controled area and you need a gun..call 911 they deliver 24/7.

    • Jackie

      The day after Obama was elected one of the Illinois lotteries (I believe it was the Little Lotto) came up 666.

      • http://Yahoo Dee D

        Just a couple of weeks ago 6666 came in. What’s the lottery got to do with anything?

    • Antonio DiSalvo

      With all due respect, the Word of God reveals (Plainly) who THE anti-Christ is. Our nations leader like every other leader we`ve had, is just a puppet of Rome, simple as that. But then again, this silly business of naming anti-christs and 666 has been going on for years. Gorbachev, Hitler, even prince william lately.

    • http://Yahoo Dee D

      Hey every poster- There are over 100 icebergs drifting toward New Zealand. Do you think maybe Gore and Obama went North and kicked them loose to prove a point on global warming?

      Could Obama be guilty of traveling to Central Pennsylvania and cutting a pipe at the 3-mile Island plant to cause a radiation leak?

      The famous R-Mark Sanford may be facing 37 charges by breaking state ethic laws. Bet Obama is responsible for this also.

      Maybe we can be generous enough to give Obama a tad of credit———–
      home sales rose 10.1% in October.

      Now if any chooses to learn how Cheney/Bush/Halliburton/Texas Oil Company Revolutionized the way America Makes War and why we even had/still has a war based on lies in Iraq click on the CORPWATCH Website. If you are willing you may learn why we went to war and have cost thousands of lives for profit and for whom.

    • Lou

      Whoa Paul,

      That’s pretty strong. The first century Christians (messianics)belived the Romans were the antichrist, Jews during WWII belived Hitler was the one. (And for good reason) AND belive or not radical Islam think WE (USA) are the Antichrist/Devil.

      The president is just the most liberal member of the entire congress (Senate & House) that was elected to the highest & most powerful polictical position in the world. I will say that it is pssible & I think true, that the whole Green Initiative is the lefts new religion. Saying that, Does that mean they’re atheists? I’m just asing the question.

  • Robert

    So. What else is new. Nothing surprises me anymore about the politicans attempt to dismantle the greatest democracy the world has ever known. Did you see Obama bow to the Japanese emporer? He did it with the Saudi king and the White house replied that he didn’t bow, he was merely shaking hands with an arab midget.

    • Lou

      Our elected representatives have been chipping away at the constitution for almost one hundred years. The only real difference now, is instead of chisels, they’ve got wrecking balls! The weaker they make the Constitution, the more likely UN and/or international law will succeed. It’s a fact that if every single American drove a Prius Hybrid for 10 years, the amount of carbon reduction would be .072% Maybe we should just ask congress to keep their mouths shut! Oh yeah, We as Americans have to come to the realization that we (I have not voted Democrat since 1991)elected these idiots to congress. Not once but for several terms. We’re to blame as well. & now we’re all worried what they’re proposing & what this country could become over the next 5 years. Scary?? Thomas Jefferson said “When a people fear the Government, that’s called tyranny. When the Government fears the people that’s called Liberty” (how soon we forget!) As far as the UN, Yes I do agree that this is an evil organization that has motives that are all anti American, but what about the IRS(Americas version of the KGB), The Federal Reserve Bank (which by the way is not Federal, is NOT a Bank & they’re are no Reserves). It’s just a large printing press & is also unconstitutional.

      Are childrens future is ay stake. What kind of legacy will we have left them when we allowed our elected officals to buden them with a 11 Trillion dollar debt?

      I can go on but I’ve got to go back to work. Something the left don’t really have a concept of.

      Lou

      • DaveH

        Lou,
        It’s $12 Trillion now and going up fast. That’s $40,000 for every man, woman, and child in this country. And it’s almost $90,000 for every worker in the country. Unbelievable!
        http://usdebtclock.org/

        • Joe H.

          Try something like 340,000 dollars a piece. It’s higher than you think!!

          • Kim

            Isn’t it like $567,989.99?

          • DaveH

            Those are unfunded liabilities Joe which presumably will be covered by the current level of taxes. However, if a private company were to operate their pension plans like the Government operates Social Security (hand to mouth), the Government would be all over them. Now we know why the public education system prefers not to teach the young people anything about economics.

    • Wayne H Risch Jr

      Robert, if we would all stop using the term “Democracy” we would be better off. Since we do not and have never lived in a democracy. We are a Republic. If you don’t know the difference look them up. But our founders knew that a democracy would fail and they were right to protect us from that kind of rule. However our citizenry is not active enough in their own government that we may fail anyway?

      • Robert

        Sorry. I thought Texas was the republic. Just waiting for them to secede so I can pack my bags and move to the real America.

        • Stacy

          My cousin who lives in Texas told me the other day that there was talk in Texas of secession. Wow! Intriguing idea…

          • Jana

            I’m a Texan. There is always that talk from a few, but I am also a proud American of the United States and I feel that she is worth fighting for. So does my husband.

          • Jana

            I should have said I am a proud citizen of the United States of America, and I feel my country is worth fighting for.

        • Tommy Barns

          I herd Obama say he was getting ready to sell Texass to the Chineese so he can pay off debt. He wants to make sure Bush has to leave his home or becume Chineese. It’s only way he can make chinnese happy because they now want their money back but we don’t got it so we have ta sell Texass to them.

          • coal miner

            Tommy,

            Did you read Sarah Palin’s new book?It is called( If You Can’t Stand The Heat,Get Out Of The Kitchen).There is another book called( MY Daughter’s Virgin Birth)these new books will be at your local Republican book store, soon.Don’t worry we are paying rent on Texas and should have it paid off by the year 3515.

          • Joe H.

            coal miner,
            O-man wrote a new book too. It’s titled “Health care will be budget neutral and 1000 other lies I told the people.”

          • Jana

            You all are so funny. You are so afraid of Sarah Palin because she speaks truth of which you have no answer. She is a human being with human faults, but you just go ahead and let your true colors be shown, green for envy, red for hate.

          • Grant S.

            Jana: It is not Palin that scares people (she is, after all a lightweight who can be easily manipulated by her own staff), but rather what she represents: ideology over reason, ignorance over intelligence, and retaliatory anger coupled with a persecution delusion. Palin doesn’t scare us; her supporters, however, do. To be that easily cajoled into a whirling Dervish mix of hate/persecution complex (with little substance backing it, by the way)–it’s frankly alarming that this is happening so easily in America.

        • coal miner

          Robert,

          Sarah Palin’s husband belongs to a group that wants Alaska to secede from the Union.This group indeed wants Alaska to beome a independent Country.They bear watching.

          • DaveH

            Eyeswideopen?

          • coal miner

            DaveH?

            Who is eyeswide open? I don’t know him.I am a retired coal miner.That name sounds familiar.

          • American Citizen

            He was in that group for a while, but no longer belongs.

          • libertytrain

            Dave H – I think not but think about a usual leftist poster and go from there – one of them that’s not posting currently – there are a few that I can think of.

  • Russell EnDean

    Time to dissolve the UN. It is too expensive for the US. The UN nonesense distracts the world from the real problems. Every Wacko from every Psycho ward of every inconsequential nation is represented, with equal voting rights, rediculous. I say, give everyone 90 days notice to get out of the UN Secretariat building, and then bring in wrecking ball.Net US Saves $40B/Yr.? Net US saves $$$$ Billions more in security problems originated in this disgraceful organization.

    • Wootmiester

      You are quite correct. The UN has no place in the American way of life. If others want to participate in this experiment in Idiocy then so be it. But get the Un out of our Country and out of our lives. The only ones that will be helped are the power grabbers such as thw Washington D.C. Messiah. While expelling the UN to foriegn shores maybe they should include Obummer and the others who are trying to wipe out America.

      • DaveH

        I second that motion.

        • http://donthaveone Beberoni

          The UN has done nothing for years but kick the U.S. in the shorts, and spend our money while trying to dictate to us what we should do. These leeches should be expelled immediately from the U.S., forced to pay all their stinking parking tickets, and send home on their own dime. What a waste of money and time, to sit there with all these rogue nations and let them tell us how it is going to be. I dont get it. Its time to leave.

          • Stacy

            I agree with you guys.

          • Jana

            Yes, yes, yes!!!!

    • JeffH

      If nothing else, kick the UN out of the US and withdraw our support and membership.

      • Jana

        They can take Obama with them, wherever they go.

      • Joe H.

        Hey JeffH,
        To appease the libers that piece of property would make a fantastic homeless shelter!!!!

        • DaveH

          That would be a higher class of people than currently occupy the property.

    • http://personalliberty.com Jessica

      Wrecking ball, hell! That big, ugly box would make a perfect upscale condo. And that way we could recoup some of the money fleeced out of us by those Third World parasites.

    • American Citizen

      It’s time for the U.S. to get out of the UN and the UN to get out of the U.S. The UN is responsible for the global warming crap to begin with. There are few countries in that group that will stand with us in trying to bring basic freedoms to their people. They are envious of our successes and refuse to work with us. Hatred brings its own destruction.

  • Ira L. Imler

    What the hell can we do to put a stop to this insanity?? The democrats are selling this country down the river!!! Isn’t there something we the people can do to save our nation from these socialists???

    • Russell EnDean

      The US Bill of Rights of the Constitution of the United States provides for the temporary formation of a FOURTH branch of government, called Grand Jury. Grand Jury is formed for the sole purpose of removing a corrupt administration. Then, when the mission is accomplished, the fourth branch dissolves.

      Impeachment is the other method, but is less likely, because it requires the internal cooperation of the Commisars, which is not likely. They are deaf to the millions of US Citizens protesting Socialized Medicine so they are unlikely to re-gain their hearing for this matter.

      Those are the two legal methods which I know.

      • sue eighmy

        Then it is time we form a Grand Jury as per Constitution to remove this administration before it is too late. How do we do this?

        • Suzanne Short

          We need to get as many people as possible to join the American Grand Jury. Just go to the AmericanGrandJury site and there is info regarding the case to remove Obama. He has done and will keep doing more actions against our Constitution. He got away with Number One by committing treason and took the office of the Presidency. He needs to be removed A.S.A.P., if we want our country back on the Road of once again being a Republic.

        • denniso

          Get real!! Or, get a job, or donate your time to a good cause..at the least, quit wasting your time buying into this silliness!

          • JeffH

            It’s all “silliness” to you. Real Americans don’t look at it like you do, just a game of childish words. We have a tendancy to take our freedom a little more seriously than your childish mind could ever comprehend. You are still playing that Pied Piper Obama’s little game called “Rules for Radicals” hosted posthumously by Saul Alinsky.

          • http://donthaveone Beberoni

            Maybe he will when you quit voting for George Soros.

          • Elaine

            This One-World Gov is Serious. It is prosphesized in GOD’s HOLY BIBLE: Daniel, Revelation, Ezeikel, Izziah. It is not a fable or fairy tale like unbelievers want it to be. This One-World Gov will usher in the AntiChrist. All who are not watching and looking for the REAL KING is going to find out what Shock and Awe really is. These puny little sissy men who think they are so powerful are going to see what power is. Believe me it is not going to be pretty for unbelievers. If you are not ready to meet your Creator, you had better quit taking your stupid pills and get ready.

        • JeffH
        • coal miner

          Sue,

          You are out of your tree.They said the same thing about George Walker BushJR.They wanted to impeach him, the first week he was in office.If you don’t like the man,vote him out.He won it fair and square,stop whining,get on with your life.

          • DaveH

            Miner,
            I wasn’t aware that you are also into the personal attack tactic. I thought better of you.

          • Pamela

            I am so tired of listening to all the crap! If everyone on this web-site knows so much,then instead of bitching and belly aching.. go run for office and change things!!.Other wise you are smart enough to know that through history B/S has been going on forever and everyone has always been whinning.. We as the humans on the planet have ruined it and unless we change our pattern.. no one will be around for much longer any way. Look in the “Mirror” and make a change.. If everyone in the world would do this on a small scale, It would be amazing how much we could do! if everyone would just start with themselves and clean up our own back yards first, that would be amazing!! We all know that this wonderful U.S. of A.has never been run by just one Man. For those who think it has needs to take a brush up 101 course on America at your local college. good luck on all your thoughts and comments here on out! Un-less you can get the American people to vote you in, I’m afraid your comments will be just that! comments! you always get more with honey then vinager, and it tastes so much better! Have a great day!! Lets make this world a better place and let it start with you! .:)

          • jim

            sue you are so right

          • DaveH

            There is a cure. Don’t listen.

          • CindyL

            Pamela, this is just a site for the good ole’ boys to get excited and pumped up about starting a revolution. This is not a place to seek out answers or to even get a working platform with solutions. This is a cheerleader site. I’m here trying to figure out how radical the Libertarians are. To see if they really believe in their party platform or if it is a bunch of crap just like the other two parties platforms are. So far alot of hyprocrisy. Talking out of both sides of their mouths. They are looking for members so there is alot of sucking up that goes on. I do like your comments.

      • JeffH
        • JeffH
          • Robert

            This is not just about both parties are to blame.
            Congress allowed the WTO to control our trade, Federal reserve to control our currency, the CFR to create policies. It’s both parties. We have been sold out.

          • JeffH

            Robert, that is so obvious, don’t even dispute that. Now the Obamanation wants to finish the job.

    • http://None James E. Morgan

      Yes! VOTE ALL DEMOCRATS OUT OF OFFICE IN 2010!

      • DaveH

        And many of the Republicans.

        • Jana

          Exactly, these people are supposed to represent us, not have their own personal agenda, but they do. We need to vote them all out and start with a clean slate with term limits.
          They think they are our leaders. NO, they are NOT. They have made this their career. It is now time to end their careers.

          • George Manning

            Jana, in reading through these many replies, so many yours, I find you an intelligent, enlightened individual.

            Your thought of term limits for all our elected governmental leadership is logical thinking in my opinion. The benefits and income, no less, the expense accounts, are a serious attraction to foster career politics.

            We stopped run on presidencies after Roosevelt. It is time to step up grass roots outcry against run on elected careers.

            One who wishes to lead should strive to do so. The “peter principle”, a Platonic principle can improve government “of, by, and for the people”.

            Regards,

            George Manning

      • Wayne H Risch Jr

        AND ALL THE REPUBLICANS AND INDEPENDENTS TOO!!! We need to break up the party politics and hold them ALL accountable. They answer to US not the PARTY.

        • Stacy

          To James, Dave and um, Howard? You guys have it exactly correct! Every incumbent needs to go to the back of the unemployment line! Now we are talking! I have enjoyed my time here today. :)

          • http://donthaveone Beberoni

            Exactly. Vote out all the incumbants this election, and let them know we have the power, not them. If they want to hold office and get re-elected, they need to run again and do what they are supposed to, represent the people, not their party.

        • Stacy

          Sorry Wayne! Couldn’t remember your name and couldn’t locate the post to properly address you.

        • Joe H.

          Wayne,
          theres a movement out called flip the house and it wants to vote ALL incumbents out!!!

          • DaveH

            Cool.

    • http://fseymour@cox.net Frank

      Obama has lied to the American people even before Big Labor, the Unions, bought the White House for him! He has continually put down the US in the eyes of our enemies and our friends around the world. Obama is, first and foremost, a Muslim! You can see pictures of him wearing Muslim clothing, just as the Fort Hood shooter was seen wearing! The Muslims have sworn to destroy America,and with Obama at the lead and the likes of Senator Reid and Pelosi, trying to pass bills that will absolutely bankrupt and cripple our nation, they have one hell of a head start! The American people, as a whole, have to start flooding their Senators and Congressmen with phone calls, FAXES, E-Mails and letters to try and change the direction in which Obama is leading us! The American people have to stand up and not just voice your opinions, with the way these Senators and Congressmen turn ‘deaf ears’ to us, you will probably have to yell like hell! I don’t care if you are a Republican, Democrat, Independent or what, this current administration is making a mockery of our Constitution and, in my estimation from what Obama has done to keep his identy a secret, just shredding it and our Bill of Rights to pieces!
      If this government were to just ENFORCE our Constitution, instead of mocking it, I think a good many of our country’s problems would start to be healed/corrected! For example, the immigration problem, if the government enforced the Constitution to the letter of the law, for everyone, Senators and Congressmen alike, the illegal alien problem would start to resolve itself, with a little assistance from all City, State and Federal officials! I can’t believe that 12 to 20 million illegal aliens/immigrants would stay in our country, knowing they are going to be deported when caught! I beleive once the employers stop hiring these illegal aliens, they would realize there is nothing here for them and they would for the most part, go home! There is the criminal part of these aliens, that we will have to deal with no matter what; but it sure as hell isn’t 12 to 20 million! That is just one way to start helping ourselves! I’d like to hear more idas if anyone has them. I’ve written enough for now, I will gladly respond to other writers!

      • DaveH

        We can’t blame our problems on the illegals. Although I agree they should be removed from our country until they can come back in legally.
        Our problems stem from the idea that government is the solution. We need to get active and turn this behemoth back towards the Limited Government that our forefathers established. There is only one party that I know which embraces the freedom and Limited Government that the Founders envisioned. That is the Libertarian Party:
        http://libertarianparty.org/platform
        We champion individual liberty and individual responsibility and Limited Government.

        • denniso

          Once again I’m amazed to find myself agreeing w/ DaveH…it’s more than absurd to blame our problems on illegal immigration.
          BUT, you are sounding more and more like a used car salesman for the libertarian party. Though even I agree w/ some of their positions, they are a fringe party that can never get elected in our 2 party system. If we were more like Europe(who most of you loathe)w/ a parliamentary system, we could have minor party representation..but America knows better than the rest of the entire world as you guys repeat over and over, so get used to it. We had an election and your old man and beauty queen lost..we’re in charge now.

          • DaveH

            Damn, makes me want to change my position. Don’t worry Denniso, you wouldn’t be welcome in my Party. We respect individuals. We have principles and facts on our side. We don’t need to disparage anybody who doesn’t agree with us like you Liberals do.

          • http://donthaveone Beberoni

            Why do you continually bust Dave’s chops on the Libertarian thing? You see, Im a Republican, and your a Dumbocrat, and its not like either of these two parties have been kicking butt for America and its people for quite awhile now, eh? Im ready to try something new. Im tired of the finger pointing and the towing the party line. Im tired of Republicans acting like liberals. And Im definately sick of liberals. Im sick of their moral-less, gutless attempts at destroying America. Im sick of the Republicans kissing up to them, instead of telling them to go to hell. Ill try something new. Im just waiting on them to raise up some good candidates. Ron Paul, Sarah Palin, Bobby Jindal, and the likes of them. That would be a good start. My Republicans are making me sick as to what they have become, and your left wing liberals need to get out of the country as far as most of us are concerned. Yeah, its high time for something new.

          • Joe H.

            denniso,
            there IS an answer. If you like the idea of a parlimentary system, I”M sure we could raise the funds right here on this one thread for a one way ticket to any of the parlimentary governments you prefer!!! All without charge to you!! See, We are very nice here!!

          • JeffH

            JoeH, I’ve made that proposal before. I’m all in.
            Berboni, I agree with you too.

          • denniso

            I’m not ‘busting poor DaveH’s chops…All I’m saying is that we have a 2 party system that is entrenched..minor(fringe) parties cannot win in our system,whether they’re any good or not. If we want more varied representation then we have to have a parliamentary system…if you don’t like that idea,because it’s european,then you should accept what we do have…2 parties that vy for power and control, when your party loses you organise for the next election..you don’t mount an armed insurrection or try to impeach the new prez on NO grounds.

          • Jackie

            Democrats have majorities in both houses yet they still blame all of their problems on the Republicans. What a joke.

      • Lou

        Oh yeah, Illegal Emigrants? Didn’t George Bush say he was going to secure our boarders? Didn’t he also say that he was going to forgo free market principles to save free market principles? How the hell do you pull that one off? Has anyone seen the real time US Debt clock? As it stands right now (11/16/09) the US Debt is $11.9 Trillion dollars. The liability per US citizen is $344,686.00
        The IRS & The Fed need to be abolished. The Capital Gains Tax needs to be elimiated. FACT: Did you know that instaed of the $800,000,000.00 (Eight Hundred Billion) congress spent on this SO CALLED Stimulus Bill, It would’ve been cheaper to give every single US tax payer a Two Month tax Holiday! Can you imagine what we could’ve done with that extra cash? That in itself would’ve given a REAL boost to the economy for the simple fact, “who knows how to spend your hard earned money better, the Government or YOU!!!

        • roger

          $344,686.00……I wont be worth that much the rest of my life…..would be worth more dead………HEY….WAIT A MINITE!!!!!!!!!!

          • http://donthaveone Beberoni

            Dont feel bad Roger. Over 90 percent of us that work, are worth more dead than alive. Kind of sucks doesnt it? And knowing that, they want us to pay for these cats that dont want to work. Ive got a problem with that.

          • JeffH

            Recieved an e-mail today, kinda interesting;

            Proposed 28th Amendment to the Constitution of the United States:

            “Congress shall make no law that applies to any citizen of the United States
            that does not apply equally to all U.S. Senators and Representatives and
            Congress shall make no law that applies to any U.S. Senator or
            Representative that does not apply equally to all citizens of the United
            States. All existing laws and regulations that do not meet these criteria
            are herewith null and void.”

          • libertytrain

            JeffH – like that amendment – hopefully the President and VP are included in that as well as his cabinet, czar’s etc.

        • Jana

          Oh Jeff, I really like that 28th Amendment. I would go for that in a heartbeat. They should not exclude themselves on anything that they put into law.
          I noticed the Sr.’s are not getting a cost of living raise on their Social Security which generally covers their insurance premium increase. But, the government is getting a raise. I think they need pay freezes. There are so many without jobs.
          Normal for a Obama who does not represent the citizens of this country.

          • JeffH

            Jana, it is too bad that there are no morals in politics or DC. This wouldn’t even get past the delete button on their computers.

      • Robert

        Frank God Bless you.

      • panovian

        Most of iligals are young and healthy.
        Enroll all of them in the military, traine and deploy them in Iraq and Aphganistan until the job is finished and then give them citizenship.

      • George Manning

        Frank—

        Your basic thinking is correct in my estimation. It is, indeed, timely for Americans to pull together to protect our American way. Without earning a legal place in our society, the old saying, ” you are who you hang with” influences the subtle power move to change our Country to submit to BIG GOVERNMENT TAKE OVER.

        When we allow interference in our personal goals to succeed, and demand a sort of financial support for those who do not contribute, we begin to erode the society that evolves through individualism and American entrepreneurialism.

        Speak to your neighbors about freedoms. Take an interest in helping others in need through charities and individual contributions, but don’t buy in to the belief that our government can do this for us.

        We have the fabric here to promote a better society without larger government controls.

        Your idea that illegals, as Obama likes to call them, “undocumented inhabitants”, will leave on their own has merit.

        I like to think that we can offer a year’s employment to those that are here and living underneath the radar. Employers should commit to a legal year of employment. Those illegals that are not with gainful employment or are not living as family with gainful employment must be deported with no penalty. Our prisons should be emptied of the illegals imprisoned, and they returned to their native lands.

        Employers should be guided to follow a procedure. If, after a year, the “undocumented” proves work-worthy, extend the work status again, keeping mindful that a five year employment makes that individual eligible for permanent residency.

        We will never find all the illegals; however, without work, most will return home.

        Regards,

        George Manning

    • ANN

      your country needs a revolution. your people need to grow some balls take your country back. BUT YOU PEOPLE CARE FOR NOTHING BUT MONEY,AND WILLING TO ANY THING TO GET IT, EVEN SACRIFICE YOUR OWEN CHILDRENS FUTURE.NOTHING BUT WAR MONGURES. ALL FOR MONEY.

      • American Citizen

        You don’t know how wrong you are. We value our Constitution and the freedoms it gives us above all else. It has been bought with blood, sweat and tears. That’s why our military is still involved in the world. Appeasement to those countries bent on destroying us does not work. It’s been tried and failed.

      • Patty

        Ann, the only thing you have right is that we need a revolution to take our country back. You obviously aren’t a US citizen and know nothing about the way Americans help and support not only each other, but other nations who need it. You probably live in a country that’s taken from us and still bad mouth us. Sick of your types.

        • Robert

          Patty I’am with you, we need to have a serious revolution and take our country back. The left leaning people on both sides scare the hell out of me. I have fought for this country and will not give it over to a bunch of one world (UN Idiots). Can’t people on both sides see what is happening here. There are groups out there who will destroy our constitution and our country while making you think its okay to give up your rights to some One world Government. Well alot of us will die before that happens. Keep the Idiots off our streets and out of our country.

        • CindyL

          Patty, may I ask who you are supporting other than the radical right of the Republican party? Since when is starting a civil war supporting other Americans?

          • Jana

            It is always odd that you have to call anyone who is a conservative a Radical. So now that tells me, that you who seem to know so much about radicals are a left wing RADICAL yourself.
            They have even said that our soldiers fit into that category??? Where do they get off on that?
            The one I hear talking about a gun type of revolution is you and your kind, it is not coming from us. We are talking about a revolt at the polls. A legal revolt. Of course it doesn’t seem to make a dent in your radical brain.

      • DaveH

        I do agree with Ann in the sense that we are wasting our time trying to be the world’s policemen – no matter how noble our intentions. We do need to punish those that attack us, but the nation-building just doesn’t work. How many of those countries that we have protected thank us for that? We need to pull out and let them protect themselves if they care. We are just furthering the impoverishment of our nation by trying to be the World’s Policemen. Our Founders were mostly against the US getting involved in the military affairs of other countries and I agree with them.

      • http://timewarner William

        ANN i do have balls its my right to write this the 1st amendment allows this the 2nd amendment enforces the 1st.to over throw the tyranny of government.People dont know their rights and others misinterpret its meaning.

      • Robert

        Yes I bet over the years and decades when we spilled American Blood for you to probably beable to say those things you sure was glad America was there. Pleaser go back to your little corner and and eat your cheese. When they come for you don’t yell for help, because we are tired of spilling our Blood for you.You if you don’t like it here leave this is Ameica and we will never give it up, even if we have to fight in the streets for it. And believe me Raggety Ann there are enought of us to do it. WE ARE AMERICANS.

      • El Chichon’

        Ann,
        You wouldn’t have the right to sit there on your duff criticizing the American people the way you do if it wasn’t for an American Soldier. You should be back-handed for your insulting remarks. You should apologize to all who have read your hateful remarks. You must be French.

        • Curtis S

          Oh El Chichon you’re so manly wanting to back-hand a woman. Bravo you little man. Thanks for resurrecting the Hollywood myth that America saved the world in two wars. Oh the brave Americans who joined World War I after it had been going on for four years. Nothing like getting into a fight long after it’s started. Did you know that World War II started in September 1939? Again, where was America? You guys didn’t bother getting involved until two years later! (Thankfully Joe Kennedy and Bush’s family weren’t involved or you would have joined the war on the German side.) Yes El Chichon, go slap Ann and then sit down and tell your children how America won the great war against Grenada.

          • Joe H.

            Curtis S,
            I think we could make you the same offer we made to denniso. The way the war was going when we DID get involved was insurmountable for the forces fighting. Had we not gotten involved they would have lost as many scholars a lot smarter than us have said! Even France and England would have been speaking German.

          • JeffH

            Curtis S, what is up with your hate for America? Can’t you afford a way out or is it that America is a far safer venue than your country of origin? Be careful, someone might report you to the INS or the DHS. Opps! Sorry, you are a liberal hack, you’re safe for now!

          • DaveH

            Curtis is living proof why we need to pull out all support from the thankless European countries. Let them sink in their own sewage.

          • American Citizen

            We got into WW2 because we were attacked! Have you forgotten about Pearl Harbor or were you absent the day they taught about that in school? You liberals try to have things both ways, i.e., don’t get involved but what do you do when you’re attacked as we were on 9/11? Should we have “turned the other cheek” again as we had so many times before? That only gave the terrorists the balls to attack us on 9/11.

          • Jana

            American Citizen, most Liberals are pacifists. You know the type who would not lift a finger to protect their own families unless forced to do so. Pacifists are next to cowards. You can never trust a pacifist. I think we are dealing with several cow oh, I meant pacifists in this group. Poor misguided souls.

          • Grant S.

            Jana: Jesus was a pacifist.

          • Jana

            Grant. Jesus was not a pacifist. He came to divide the world, and He did. He bucked the system, and let them know they were wrong. The system I am talking about was not the political system it was the so called “religious” system, and no pacifist could do that. Obama is not a pacifist either.

          • Grant S.

            Jana: well I guess that’s the difference between your interpretation of the bible and mine; but god told me what’s right, so it’s going to be difficult for you to argue with me. Your hate-filled, judgmental, nihilist version of christianity has way more in common with the islam that you hate so much. I’m not trying to be harsh or critical–it’s HISTORY! Right?

          • Jana

            Ewww Grant,
            The snake has finally slithered out of his hole and you have shown your true colors. You have labeled yourself with your sadistic accusations.
            I have no intention of arguing with you. We do NOT serve the same God. I serve THE ONE TRUE LIVING GOD.
            You said you were not trying to be harsh or critical which is not true because that is your total intention, so that also labels you as a liar.

          • Jana

            One more thing dear Mr. Grant:
            In one posting you claim you are a super smart guy, so much smarter than any of the rest of us on this board, and you have so much education. Hmmm, reminds me of the phrase “educated idiots”. If the shoe fits etc. etc. You also claimed to be an agnostic. You sure are all over the board here on yourself. Me thinks you are just a little too full of yourself!
            If you are an agnostic then as you claim, then you have no god in your life. You don’t need to try and study the Word in a foreign language.You have enough trouble reading and speaking English.

            You see Mr. G., if you tell the truth all of the time then you don’t have to try and remember any lies that you have told before.

        • Grant S.

          Yeah, insult the French–that’s intelligent. What is it with Americans’ utter and complete insecurity complex with the French? Why?!?! Just leave it! We as a culture must be so threatened by the French to continually wig out with such ridiculous insults.

          • Jana

            Grant, How in the world is it an insult to say we came to the aid of the French? We were glad to do it.
            By the way, we didn’t make this up, this is called HISTORY.

          • Joe H.

            Grant,
            If you were talking to me, please tell me where I insulted the French? If there was a lie in that post, show us all!!! We did save the French’s assets in WW2!! That’s called historical FACT!!

          • CindyL

            JoeH, you are aware that the French made it possible for us to get our freedom from Britian don’t you? Without the French you wouldn’t be free today. What happened to not wanting to look back, only moving forward? Don’t want to review what Bush did to country, but you will go back to WW2 and make comments about the French? Unbelievable.

          • Grant S.

            Jana, Joe H: I was replying to El Chichon’s “You must be French” comment…as if the entire 65 mil. citizens of France are all the same.

            Jana: Thanks for the reminder “we didn’t make this up”…I was completely unaware of America’s involvement in WWII. You’re a breath of fresh air.

            Joe H.: Yes we *did* save the “assets” of the French (obviously widely acknowledged and never disputed, as far as I know), in partnership with several other nations, including the Canadians…something about which French-hating Americans cannot stop shrieking, despite most French people’s actually not having forgotten and something for which they are grateful–but they are equally totally irritated by continually being reminded in an utterly aggressive (and frequently ignorant and rude) manner.

          • American Citizen

            Grant, Jesus was not a pacifist, he did pick up a whip and use it. He showed that when it is necessary, it’s the thing to do. I believe He also showed the government has the right to use corporal punishment/death penalty by submitting Himself to it. But – it should only be used in extreme cases when a homicidal maniac needs to be removed from society. Society has the right to protect itself.

      • noreen cerino

        No, Ann, that’s our government your talking about…..not the American people. We are the first ones to lend a hand when disaster hits anywhere in the world {everyone loves us then}. The American people as a whole are among the most generous and giving people in the world.I don’t know where you are from, but I do know that when a large part of our country and its people were devastated by Katrina, you were nowhere to be found…..and if you find us so greedy and selfish, what are you doing here?

    • chuck

      Biblical prophesy foretold these events we are now seeing in our daily
      lives thousands and hundreds of years ago.

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        In the last days, or the end times, there will be more frequent fires and floods and earthquakes and other disasters. Wrong will become right, and right will become wrong. These are just birth pangs, and are the beginning of things to come. Doesnt take a rocket scientist to see that this is all true, does it Chuck? And some people still reject the truth. I dont know why, but they do, and its all there, and it always has been there. But so many fear the truth. Why?

        • Richard Pawley

          Well, Beberoni, I believe some fear the truth because they do not know that God loves them and that there is nothing they can do to make Him love them more than He does, no particular church or denomination or cult they can join or thing they can do to be accepted. They need to learn to turn to Him and seek Him according to Biblical traditions and they will find He already loves them and accepts them. Others fear the truth because it might imply they have to change and they don’t want to do that. Some fear the truth because they think they don’t measure up or they are not worthty. I’ll let you in on a secret: No one is worthy. Jesus didn’t even like men to call him good. He said there is one who is good, Our Father in Heaven. For others it is just fear itself.

          • http://donthaveone Beberoni

            And also, so many people have the misconception that if they go to church or become a Christian, that they have to do all kinds of stuff. Not true. You dont have to do nothing, and you cant do nothing. Its allready been done for you, when He said I love you this much, and spread His arms and took the nails. Thats it. There is nothing to do. Nothing one can do to earn or work their way in. Nothing you can do to not be allowed, other than to reject Him. All youve got to do is say, “I want You in my life”. Its all been done. People are so full of this idea that they have to do this, and do that, and none of it is true. Now other religions, like Islam, they have to jump through all kinds of hoops, like facing Mecca and praying 7 times a day. They do all this, for what? God says if you dont have the Son, you dont have the Father. Only one way up, and that is through Jesus Christ. Thats it.

          • CindyL

            Richard, am interested, do you believe that Christians should pass judgements on others? I am not saying make judgements, I said pass judgements.

        • DaveH

          The Liberals will blame Global Warming.

          • http://donthaveone Beberoni

            I have noticed this year Dave, that Al Gore and his global warming buddies have kind of been hiding out since its been so much cooler this year. Whats up with that? Why just last year, he was declaring that we were destroying this planet and driving temperatures up, but now he is gone. I was watching a program last night about the dust bowl in Kansas and the plains areas. Boy oh boy, lucky Al Gore wasnt around then. He would have had a field day.

          • Joe H.

            Berberoni,
            there wasn’t a reply bar on your post so I had to use Dave’s. Al Bore had a talk last week and there were more protesters on the outside than listeners on the inside!! he’s losing a lot of his mindless followers!!!!

        • Richard Pawley

          Beberoni, when you say below than THERE IS NOTHING TO DO that isn’t quite true. The New Testament says to “pray always” in other words, live your life so that as a Christian you reflect Jesus in such a way that people will be attracted to Him because of His presence in you. Be a living prayer. That doesn’t happen automatically. You have to pray and draw close to Jesus for this to be so. If you look at the teachings of Jesus and read just the gospels and the book of ACTS you will see that there is a lot of good that we can do and will do if we are followers of Jesus. It is true we don’t have to do things as the cults insist but your reward in heaven will be determined by what you did here. That doesn’t determine your going there, only your reward. I think that may be why there are three heavens. Paul mentions that he was taken up to the third heaven where he saw God and ended up blind until a Christian healed him. The point is that if he was taken up into the third heaven there must be a first and a second. I don’t disagree with you entirely because salvation does not depend on anything you do (except ask Jesus to come into your life and forgive your sins) but there will be a change in you when you do that which will be noticed by others – and I don’t mean by becoming a religious fanatic). You will become more loving, more accepting, more inclined to pray for people, and to care for them. However, your REWARD in Heaven will depend on what you did here and as it says in the New Testament, faith without good works is dead (or non-existent). Someone else below asked about passing judgement and I think she means about calling a spade a spade and not calling evil good. Jesus himself said to look at what a person does not by what they proclaim or say, “By their fruits you will know them!” So in one sense we are always judging but we should never condemn another because we don’t know where they are in their spiritual journey. “Let your light shine” In the classic Christian paperback GOD CALLING Jesus told a woman in England some 75 years ago that just loving others will help them. Sometime people can’t stomach words or “church” because of what has been done to them but just loving them will benefit them and you too!

    • Robert

      A military coupe might work. It seemed to have worked somewhat in other countries. Couldn’t hurt to try. What do we have to loose? We’re already seeing the start of our ultimate and total slavery to the Washington crowd and their elitist.

      • DaveH

        It’s doubtful. Even after the trauma of breaking away from England with the American Revolution, many people wanted to make George Washington a King. We were lucky then that he didn’t want any part of it.

      • JeffH

        Every day there is more and more criticism by the Dems about the direction Obummer is taking this country. Even a few of the MSM types are starting to question some of his moves, or lack of leadership. Why did Lou Dobbs leave CNN so suddenly?

        • http://donthaveone Beberoni

          They realize that America is sick of what they are doing, and now comes the time when all these cowards on the left, that have as a group, led Obama to do the things he has does, as their “figurehead”, and as they all blow up in their face, they now back away like they are all innocent, and are in the process of throwing him under the bus, just like I said 6 months ago. Its coming, and I still say that in the election of 2012, the democrats will run Hillary and force him to resign. Of course though, they may be afraid to alienate themselves from getting the black vote which they have somehow manipulated for years, when they have done nothing for them at all.

          • JeffH

            The real bottom line will be that if Obama is successful in his quest to change America forever, and I believe in America enough that he won’t be, Soros will still toss his money behind like minded thinkers. If Obama doesn’t stand a chance for a second term, Soros will toss him out and possibly back Hillary again. Can one imagine a H.Clinton vs. S.Palin battle of he sexes?

          • American Citizen

            Martin Luther King’s niece is telling the blacks that they should be voting Republican. She is telling them that the Democrats are keeping them down. We need people of her stature telling them to take control of their own lives and not want to be slaves to the government. Their so-called leaders, Sharpton, Jackson and Farakhan are leading them down the wrong path.

        • Jana

          Oh I hope that is true, but I suspect Obama will run again. It will be up to us to stand against him.
          Unfortunately in the past the people have short memories and have never held up their threats of not voting for the same people again, and they are banking their careers that this will happen again.
          I pray that we have finally awakened and will have this same ferver that we have now come election time. It will be up to us to spread the word that’s for sure.

        • American Citizen

          What’s so different about that? Don’t we have a king, oops, president acting like one now?

      • CindyL

        If you want to see elitists, study the messages of Ayn Rand. All Libertarians are elitists. She promotes ethical egoism, which is the position that people should do what is in their own self interest. Regardless of the effects it produces for others. Ethical egoism is the philosophical basis for the Libertarian concepts. Thomas Jefferson believed that ethical egoism was the basis for immorality. Ethical egoism is at odds with the majority of religions as it is a lack of spirituality and shows total submersion in GREED. A majority of Libertarians are atheist, who don’t believe in helping their fellow man in any way for any reason. That is why the idea of anarchy doesn’t bother them in the least. Bryan Caplan states that “In a modern democracy, not only can a Libertarian be elitist, a Libertarian has to be elitist.” Many are saying that the Democrats are like sheep, maybe you should look at who is trying to lead the right wingers down a bloody path that American might not survive. American fighting American who would have thought such a thing possible. When did violence become the answer?

  • Russell EnDean

    Yes Robert, Obama is the Anti-Christ and a whole lot more. We cannot wait another three years, because using the past 9 months, and arithmetic as my guide, the system is going to melt down before three more years pass. This excludes variables such as international matters. So we do not have the luxury of waiting for the trem to expire.

    • coal miner

      Russell,

      What do you suggest,arm revolt?That how dictatorships gets estasbished.If you don’t like the guy,vote him out.Russell,you could be monitored.There is a thin line in freedom of speech and yelling fire in a crowded theater.

      • DaveH

        Miner,
        I believe you’re right about revolutions leading to dictatorship. But I don’t see any exceptions in our freedom of speech in the First Amendment. Any exceptions have been implemented unconstitutionally. Please respect Russell’s freedom of speech as I respect yours.

        • coal miner

          Dave,

          “That we can’t wait another three years,” that what worries me.I am not against freedom of speech,as long it don’t egg people on to violence.A famous Justice said what I quoted.I do respect his right to free speech.

          • http://donthaveone Beberoni

            His own party will dump him and distance themselves from him before these 3 years are up. Watch and see.

          • Stacy

            Beberoni,

            Wouldn’t the world be a rosier place if you are correct? In the meantime, let’s shut him down in 2010. Take away his playmates and his ability to do any more damage.

          • Jana

            Coal, I agree, we can’t wait three more years, that’s why we vote out every one of the legislators that are coming up and put new people in. We write letters, we call our reps. and we make a lot of noise so they will hear us in Washington DC

          • http://personalliberty.com Jessica

            Sometimes I think the Warrior Class in this country, the soldiers from long warrior bloodlines (and there are a lot of them), are just itching to start a good old-fashioned revolution. To them I say slow down, think about it. Who could organize such a thing? How could you safegaurd your battle plans in this age of instant information? Armed resistance against the Federal Govornment is a far cry from blowing up your dad’s toolshed with match bombs when you were a teenager, and getting your butt whupped for it.

          • CindyL

            Frank Schaefer, the son of the man who started the Conservative movement, stated on cable tonight, that the religious leaders in this country should be standing up to talk like that from many on this site. He can’t believe that we are letting the fringe in this country promote a civil war. He stated that he believes that we will have an assassination by the radical righties, and he doesn’t understand how Christians can be so far off from the Christian dogma. That they are no longer Christians or they wouldn’t be acting the way they are. They are hiding behind the guise of being Christian.

          • Jana

            Woa Jessica and Cindy. you are the ones promoting civil war.
            I think we need to turn you in to Obama.
            Please girls, put your guns away. Please do not preach and yell the awful things you do that would cause anarchy and hatred in this country. You two are extremely dangerous people.
            This country needs protection from people like you.

    • denniso

      Russell..Do you really believe that stuff?? anti christ? You know I still remember people like you at the time calling Reagan and Bush 1, both the so called anti christ. What a bunch of nonsense..sure, you have a right to spout your silly ‘religious’ beliefs. I also have a right to call your comment absurd and totally unproductive.

      • DaveH

        Unlike your constant personal attacks and Double-Speak.

        • Robert

          I thought Denniso disappeared. Wishful thinking I guess. Anyway, I find his liberal views entertaining. When the Washington crowd gets around to stripping every American of their freedoms and money and start dictating what we can and cannot do, I’ll be interested in what Denniso has to say. Unless he’s a plant and just taking names so they know who to arrest first.

          • El Chichon’

            Robert,
            How do you know if you can trust Bob Livingston at Liberty Alert? This may and very well could be an Obama website to capture all those who go against him. At any rate, if it is, I guess the cats out of the bag now!!! You never know who you can trust. You may have freedom of speech, but there can also be repercussions for what a person says too. They may hold you accountable some how. We all have to be careful now days. Trust no one. Re-elect no one. When we do vote, I strongly suggest voting for the far right wing extremist conservatives no matter what party they are affiliated with as long as they are staunch conservatives. This is the only way to stop OsamaBama and this mess in its tracks and start working on ways to reverse everything these maniacs have done to our nation.

          • DaveH

            El,
            The far right has encouraged government growth also, albeit not as much as the left. We need to get people in there who understand the individual freedom and Limited Government that our founders worked to establish.

          • libertytrain

            El Chicon – funny thought – however, since Bob Livingston has been publishing his letter for decades, I think we are all safe.

          • CindyL

            You are so safe, that the FBI has reported a 400% increase in domestic threats of violence from radical groups. Go on and feel safe. You think you will be safe when the shooting starts? What do you think will help you? You gonna wear a T shirt stating I hate Obama and no one will kill you? Dude, nobody with a gun or without will be safe, don’t you get it? It won’t matter how macho you are, there will be posiers and you will be killed. You won’t be able to tell us apart. Americans all don’t have blond hair, slanted eyes, one color of skin, we are all different and you won’t be able to tell who the enemy is. Do you think the Liberals will have a shirt on saying I am a Liberal, kill me now? How will you be able to decide who to shoot?

        • Joe H.

          denniso,
          yup I remember those chants also. I’m a bit surprised you would mention them though as they were being shouted by the DEMOCRATS!!!!

          • Jana

            Good point Joe, good point.

          • denniso

            Wrong JoeH…most Dems don’t have an antichrist to knock around or run from. It’s mostly set firmly in your smart party

      • usmadgirl

        Denniso,

        As a Christian, I have to pray for your soul, & also pray that God will forgive me for calling you an idiot! I really can’t blame you as a Liberal! If I could, I would like to live in the same fantasy world that I did when I was five years old, too! That’s the problem with Liberals, they’ve never grown up! They still think they can have anything they want for nothing! That’s just like a little kid who asks for a toy & their parents say they don’t have the money to buy it & the kid says “but you have a check book”!

        It’s too bad that we can’t all live in the fantasy world that you’ve created for yourself, where there is no “good” or “evil”, but unfortunately, we have to live in the REAL WORLD!

        Why do you even waste our time on this site? Most of us are here to try to resolve the problems that you & all your Marxist administration have created! We choose to unite for the good of the people. If you want to live in a Socialist/Communist/Marxist country, why don’t you go to North Korea, Cuba or Venezuela and leave us alone? You don’t deserve to live in this country!

        • Grant S.

          Dear usmadgirl:

          As an agnostic, I have to pray for your mental capacity. But I won’t go as far to call you an idiot, because I think it’s poor form, and a cheap shot. (and totally off base, incidentally) You have let a frantic, overly-dramatic, totally entertainment-based, profit-driven information delivery environment lead you to believe that you can neatly box up all liberals into some sheeple/idiot category, overlooking the long, rich history of liberal/progressive achievements which have contributed immensely (along with conservative achievements) to this country.

          Your reference to the “REAL WORLD” is what strikes a chord in me. For, in fact, it’s the “real worlders” who seem to grasp the fact that in this real world, sometimes certain political parties win. When this happens, it’s not the end of the world or the start of some biblical armageddon; it’s just a different administration. Deal with it. It’ll probably change hands in 3 years anyway. If you really want change, start rallying all of your friends to learn about instant run-off voting and question why we don’t have it in this country. The petty infighting will get us nowhere, and only serves to keep entrenched, useless politicians in office, while we get purposely distracted into bickering about gay marriage, abortion, and BIBLICAL PROPHECY!!!! ..as if these things have any relevance to the bigger picture.

          I’m a “liberal”…the kind that will make no sense to you, because it won’t fit into the convenient framing you’ve accepted as part of the narrow, highly-edited-for-entertainment-value version of reality you’ve been fed. I’m definitely grown up; I don’t believe in fantasies (like the bible), but I do believe that the world can be a better place. I do believe that our country has the potential to once again become a beacon of freedom, creativity, and leadership for the world–but I don’t believe that the way to go about it involves wreaking havoc on a nation half around the planet that at least 85% of Americans can’t identify on a map. And I don’t believe the way to go about involves arbitrarily distilling reality down to “good” vs. “evil”, since, contrary to your assertion, THIS is what five year olds do.

          Please don’t try to suggest that I’m dumb or an idiot. It only serves to degrade the debate. The “why don’t you go elsewhere comments”…uh-uh…we’re not going anywhere. We had to put up with 8 yrs. of catastrophic failure. Throw us a bone. This supposed “socialist” Obama is anything but. You have no idea what actual, liberal socialism looks like–not even the faintest clue. Our country isn’t even left of center…it’s smack in the center and leaning right. So you really have nothing to fear.

          Welcome to the real world!

          • Joe H.

            Hey Grant,
            good for you!!! Don’t even give a thought to the fact that O-man has put us so far in debt that your grand children will still be paying for it. Don’t even give a moments hesitation to the fact that we have been lied to by him left and right. The health care plan will be budget neutral? In what dream. I know, he’s going to donate all his money from the nobel right? Oh wait, that won’t do it either. La La land that’s what he believes in and it doesn’t exist!!!

          • http://donthaveone Beberoni

            You make some good points sir, but truly, it does boil down in life, to a battle between good and evil. If you live in that gray area where “everything is cool”. You know, “to each his own”. Or, “Whatever makes you feel good”. Well, if you live there, your not standing for anything. One cannot go through life straddling the fence. Its either one side or the other. I walked for 40 years on one side, and for the last 11 on the other. So in knowing that, accept that I have the experience of living on both planes, and that I fully recognize good from evil and vice versa. And being a believer, I have to believe what the Bible says, that “Our battle is not against flesh and blood, but against evil forces”. Its pretty simple, and if you know Jesus, you fully know and recognize this. However, dont insult and attack me for my beliefs, as I fully support your right to not believe. I know, I used to be you.

          • coal miner

            Grant S,

            I agree with you.Some of these people say vote my way or the high way.I am also agnostic.Most of these arguments you stated,I do believe in.Do you believe in the right to bear arms?I do.Every president that was elected,they said the end of time is near,almost all of them,were call the Anti-Christ.

          • Joe H.

            Grant,
            one other thing, Why would an agnostic PRAY?

          • DaveH

            By “rich history of liberal/progressive achievements”, do you mean the achievement of stealing an ever-increasing portion of peoples’ hard-earned money to pay for your Liberal fantasies and impoverish our country?

          • Jana

            Grant, as an agnostic who are you gonna pray to?? Obama??
            Unfortunately being a liberal used to mean something really good, but you sweet little inno9cent darlings have turned it into/let it evolve into something truly bad, and even harmful to our country. Liberalism no longer even resembles its meaning any more.

            You say “The petty infighting will get us nowhere, and only serves to keep entrenched, useless politicians in office, while we get purposely distracted into bickering about gay marriage, abortion, and BIBLICAL PROPHECY!!!! ..as if these things have any relevance to the bigger picture.”
            Well Mr., it means something to us who do have morals and standards that we live by. As you say in your own words, “Deal with it.”

            We all realize that sometimes certain political parties win. But when we see someone come in and try to change our country into something that we cannot recognize, and we see our freedoms being taken away from us, we become alarmed. You are the one who uses the term Biblical Armageddon, but that is not even what we said. You have no understanding of Biblical prophecy therefore you misuse your terms.
            You do give some good advice about learning about instant run-off voting.
            Why don’t you enlighten us a little more on the subject?

            You say we have no idea what liberal socialism looks like, and that we have nothing to fear. You have had your eyes closed to the truth for so long that you can’t see what is happening around you. We know full well what it looks like and we are fighting to keep it from coming here.

            My husband was working in South America during the Falkland Islands war and with the propaganda that they spread he actually thought that England had lost that war. When he came home he said he couldn’t fathom England losing, but everyone down there believed it.

            I don’t have to go to Paris France to know there is a Paris France. So we don’t have to let Socialism be the rule for our country to know what it is.

        • CindyL

          The only solution you and the radicals on this site have come up with is a civil war against Americans. You are funny.

          • American Citizen

            In reality, the revolution is going to take place in the voting booths. Some are just blowing off steam here. Armed revolution is not the American way. Next year will come the revolution on election day.

          • Jana

            American Citizen, I think Cindy is a plant to see if she or he can antagonize everyone. She is a liar, and a manipulator of words, therefore she cannot be trusted in any sense of the word. She can read but she distorts the truth like a normal Radical leftist does, and her only purpose is to cause trouble, so she is a troublemaker too.

  • DAllen

    GOD HELP US!!!!!!!!!!!!!! If this President gives up our sovereignty as a nation in the name of this bogus (and it is bogus because REAL scientists have debunked it) global warming nonsense then he needs to be IMPEACHED!

    • denniso

      DAllen… have you heard of the Geneva accord? We’re supposed to be bound by that for treatment of prisoners during war. Have you heard of the world court? we belong to that as well. How about trade agreements that have international rules? We don’t live on this earth in a vacuum like some of you may like.

      • DaveH

        I agree Denniso, the vacuum exists only between your ears.

        • Robert

          I thought it was a black hole. Thanks for the information, I’ll keep it mind for future considerations when I reply to Denniso.

          • denniso

            Not very clever or funny..sorry.

        • CindyL

          I thought you were above nasty statements and name calling?

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        If I ran things, we wouldnt belong to no world court, we would be the world court, I mean, since we have to pay for everything, why shouldnt we. I wouldnt belong to the United Nations. I would kick these leeches out of our country immediately, and bill them for our services in doing it. We waste billions of dollars on this, for what? To have third world heathens tell us what to do. No way. Id remove us immediately. Id close our bases in France and Germany, since they thought of themselves as being too good to help us after we got bombed on 9-11. Id remove aid from these nations unfriendly to us, Russia, Lebanon, Syria, and many more. What the hell are we doing giving money to these guys anyhow? Its stinking nuts. You can sit down and talk with them all you want, because thats what the liberals do, and thats why we have these crummy relationships with these countries. We need to slap them in the face, and make them shape up and ship out, and earn a little respect. You dont get that by giving them handouts. Cryin out loud. Look at all the losers in this country, that are living on handouts. Do you think they respect the government for it? Heck no, they laugh about it and find it humorous. Makes them want more handouts is what it does. Close the spicket, shut it down, and start dealing with these guys like a man, not liked a scared little boy.

        • DaveH

          They not only don’t respect where the handouts come from, but they demand more like any spoiled child.

        • American Citizen

          What you want more of, you subsidize. Our politicians need to smarten up.

    • DaveH

      DAllen,
      You might enjoy this article.
      http://www.conservativeusa.org/UN100ways.htm

      • JeffH

        Thanks DaveH, another interesting read.

  • KC

    If anyone reads the Bible & believes it-then this “one world gov’t” attempt is not suprising. I’m sure it will happen as the Bible states & then inevitably a one world religon. It’s a scary thought, but if you’re a Christian you have to stick to your beliefs & fight until the end. Scary times ahead folks…be prepared…

    • Donald

      KC,
      Even though we Chriswtians believe there will be an attempt to make a one world Agovernment, that doesn’t mean we should sit by idly and watch it happen. It means we need to stand up for righteousness sake and try to sto it, as we will all be held accoutnable for our actions, or non-actions.

    • Charlie

      AMEN! that’s right!
      We are indeed living in perilous times…and Christ return is almost by the door.
      Let’s get ready each day…for our redemption draweth nigh>

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        Thats right, He is coming. But were not supposed to crawl up into the fetal position like the liberals and wait for Him to do the work for us. We need to get our hands and feet dirty, and get out of our comfort zone, and do what it takes to help others get their also. Our faith is no good if we keep it to ourselves. And it is dead without works, just as our good works are dead without faith. We must combine the two, and put our faith into action, and fight for the right things, whether we get it or not. I get laughed at by some, but thats cool. I expect that. Its written that way, and Ive been for-warned about that. The Cross is foolishness to those that are perishing, but to us who are saved, it is life. Our eyes and ears have been opened and we know. But its no good for us to know and just hide in a ball and keep it to ourselves. Be bold for the gospels sake, as it is written, and spread the word. Jesus Christ came for one purpose, to serve man. And He laid down his life for us, and took the nails for us and hung on that cross for us. This is the most painful, cruel, and longest death style there is. Yet He knew it ahead of time, and still did it for us. But wait, 3 days later He rose again, as He said He would. And He lives inside of me and all you who believe, and He will come again. Maybe tomorrow, might be next week, next month, next year, 10 years, maybe 100 years. Doesnt matter. He is coming, and all will bow before Him and give an account of themselves. So do others right, and when someone does you wrong, dont seek revenge. It will be meeted out to them. In the end, all wrongs will be made right. But I have to agree wholly with you Charlie, He is coming again. Praise be to Jesus Christ, who took the nails so that I didnt have to.

        • American Citizen

          You’re right Bebe, no one knows when the end of this world will be, even Jesus didn’t know. He said only the Father knows. So we need to live each day as if it’s the last.

  • george

    the liberals want to dismantle america

    • denniso

      george..NO, we want to repair the disaster that YOUR party created! SIMPLE!

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        And by taking unemployment from 4 percent to 10 percent, you are doing this how? And you are doubling the national deficit real quick. So how is this supposed to be true? Please, by all means, explain.

      • usmadgirl

        Denniso,
        Do you truly believe the goofy words that you type? Nothing makes me angrier than you & your Marxist president & all the other Liberals blaming “Our Party” & Bush for spending! Yeah, I’m PO’d at his bailing out AIG, but if you listened to his speech last week, you’d know that he did it against his “better capitalist judgment”. None of the economic crash started until the Dumbocrats took over the House & Senate in 2006 & your Liberal freak, Barney Frank, whose only real job was to regulate FNMA & FHLMC, told the world that FNMA & FHLMC were in great shape!

        How can you rationally blame “Our Party” & Bush for “spending” when he had 9/11 right off the bat, then Katrina (that the brilliant Mayor of New Orleans & Governor of Louisiana couldn’t deal with) & was paying for 2 wars in order to protect us from crazy, evil TERRORISTS (that have only one goal & that’s to KILL US) & still didn’t make a small dent in what your America hating, bowing, Mao Tse Tung loving president had spent in his first six months? Within six months, Obama had already spent as much as all the presidents from George Washington to George W. Bush COMBINED!

        And I guess you think (in your childlike mind) that YOU aren’t going to have to pay for the One World Government’s “Climate Change” LIE just because you’re a Liberal. If you think they’re not going to tax your Liberal butt, to pay for a complete fabrication in the mind of Al Gore (a lying disgrace to mankind) so he can get even wealthier, then I have a nice bridge in Alaska that I’ll sell you! If you’re not affiliated with ACORN or SEIU, then you’re gonna be living in poverty just like the rest of us who are going to have to “share the wealth” with every freeloader in the world!

        • denniso

          madgirl…I try to be more polite to women/girls than the tough guys here, so I won’t call all of your comment garbage, just most of it. There is not and won’t be ‘one world gov’t’ ever, unless it’s the imperialistic U.S. gov’t at the top and in control..even then, it could NEVER work. We’ve belonged to the U.N. for 50 yrs and most of the people ranting now were saying the same thing about the U.N. controlling us..the evil U.N. has almost no power to do anything…this one world gov’t thing is a complete fabrication and you are being used as a pawn in the game.

          • American Citizen

            The one world government won’t come through the useless UN, it’ll come through the downfall of this country.

    • DaveH

      George,
      Ignore Denniso. He is just the board Harpy. Kind of like a court jester only not funny.

  • DaveH

    Yes, there is Ira, write to your Senators and tell them to vote no on any such UN treaty or lose their jobs. In fact write to them and tell them to get us out of the UN or lose their jobs. It’s time to throw the rascals out.
    I’m from Arizona where, unfortunately, John McCain is Senator. I am going to do everything I can to get that RINO thrown out.

    • Sharon DiPiazza

      Unfortunately if there is no challenger to a politician they stay in office by default. For every 1 person who keeps informed and knows what is going on there are probably 10 more people who don’t have a clue and could care less. Getting involved, doing research and keeping tabs on our politicians is too much work, they’d rather watch Oprah.

      • Robert

        How true.

      • David

        That’s what the tea baggers are for…..finding the right person to oust the outdated. They are doing a good job too.

        • jbird

          Please do not use the word teabagger in reference to Tea Party activists. It is a slur used by the left as a put down. It refers to a male homosexual practice and is offensive.

          • David

            I stand corrected

          • DaveH

            Oh come on Jbird. Let’s not get all focused on the PC stuff. I resent that so many of our words have been corrupted and considered off-limits now. Like queer, which used to mean strange or odd (and still does). Or gay, which used to mean happy (and still does).
            We know what David meant. Leave the PC stuff to the Liberals.

      • American Citizen

        That’s so true, Sharon, that’s how Obama got elected. They did man on the street interviews and most could not tell them anything about Obama, even though they voted for him. They voted for him because of the color of his skin. If that’s not being racist, I don’t know what is. I didn’t vote for him because of the color of his skin, I didn’t vote for him because of who his friends were (says a lot about character) and the words he spoke, “We will fundamentally change this country.” Chilling words. That’s why he seems to not value the Constitution.

    • Wayne H Risch Jr

      I believe Adam Kokesh is running against McCain. Check him out, he is also a 912 candidate from 912candidates.org. So he is someone with the morals we all need and can count on.

    • Wayne H Risch Jr

      I believe Adam Kokesh is running against McCain. Check him out, he is also a 912 candidate from 912candidates dotorg. So he is someone with the morals we all need and can count on.

      • Stacy

        Thanks for the heads up Wayne. I was beginning to wonder if there was going to be an alternative to the status quo. I’ll be researching this fellow to see what he is about. :)

      • denniso

        Good, you’re going to dump one of the few repubs w/ any broad appeal to the average voter, which isn’t you.

        • JeffH

          duh!nniso, your comment is that of a child, you couldn’t wait to name call could you. Liberal trash talk, nothing more.

          • DaveH

            She is a child. A nine year old by the name of Gabriela. Obiously a product of our public school system.

        • Stacy

          You say that like it is a bad thing. ???? I’m not sure I would make the average voter a hero. Look at where we are today. Oh, and unless I am wrong it is still my right to choose for whom I will vote.

        • American Citizen

          I may be wrong, but I thought I heard that McCain isn’t going to run again. He needs to retire and enjoy the years he has left with his family. Just as there is an age restriction to how old you have to be in order to run for the Congressional seats, I think there should be a mandatory retirement age for them. Those of us who are older know the limits we have as to energy, etc. I’m not saying he’s lost any of his intelligence, but he’s also done some voting that as a conservative, I don’t agree with.

    • Stacy

      DaveH,
      I am from Arizona as well. John mcCain will never again get my vote. He has been selling all Arizonans down the river for years because most Republicans didn’t understand he was just playing the “I’m a Republican so I’ve got your butt covered” game. His positions on global warming mythology, the NorthAmerican Union and illegal immigration are totally liberal and absolutely not representative of what most Arizonans believe. His BS illegal amnesty debaucle a few years ago is case in point. One would think he had figured out that he was not on the right track when we threatened to hand him his ass over that mess. Unfortunately, he is choosing to run again and I’m not certain that the conservatives here have anyone to take him in the primaries. I have been listening for the war drums but haven’t heard anything yet. Have you? I will be contacting him this week and expressing my feelings about what will most likely go down here if he votes for any of this liberal drivel. Many Arizonans just won’t vote for him. It is quite possible we could experience a mini-2008 here in that there could be enough defectors to other candidates that he wouldn’t get voted in and a liberal could take his seat. There would be another fine kettle of fish…throw one liberal out only to put another one in. There is no longer the option to default to any candidate just because of the initial behind his name. At the risk of sounding crude my sons say there should be a new set of initials as an alternative to D and R…AC as in assclown. Seems to me that these RINOs as they are called should perhaps have this designation and their party flag could be one of any from Cuba, Russia or North Korea. As for this giveaway of American sovreignty? I think the problem we have is that most of us do not have enough knowledge about the legal system or constitutional authority to know how to stop these jokers now. If the guy who spoke of the Grand Jury knows exactly how the citizenry can do this then I hope he speaks up. Otherwise, it is sad to think that the lawyers that could enlighten us simply won’t because of their quest for power and wealth at the expense of everyone else…I’ve never met a lawyer I thought any good. If our only weapon is the vote then we better pray that we can do some intense damage to the controlling party in 2010. These are dark and pretty terrifying times and I know people who are very logical and stable people who would normally poo-poo alarmist ideas about foreign militaries raiding our country with the blessing of our own government and massive food shortages beginning to prepare themselves for the worst as they best can. I don’t know that any of the things people are talking about happening will actually happen but our family is moving in the direction of preparing for whatever may come as we best can. If we fail to change things in 2010 then I believe all is lost. Our country can not continue to take this continual assault from within and without (especially when those who wish to destroy us are being aided and abetted by those from within and that includes Geo. W when he was in office although he didn’t aid the enemies of America per se he did diminish our individual freedoms and assault the Constitution in the aftermath of 9/11) and not be destroyed. I believe that the liberals know this and that could explain why they are trying to ram so much down our throats without our consent…do as much damage as they can while they have power. Even if they lose control in 2010 what kind of damage will they have done to our Constitution and associated documents in the meantime? I don’t believe this mess is a party problem I believe it to be a government power and greed problem. Ronald Reagan got it right…government is not the solution to the problem. Government IS the problem. personally, I have been reading the Constitution, associated documents and letters written by our Founding fathers and they spoke of freedom and liberty as something we would have to defend. One of them wrote that the people would likely become so distracted by living their lives and chasing their dreams that the government would then grow out of control and well, what has happened is what they said would happen. Liberty is a grand thing if you can hang onto it. The problem as the writer saw it was that people would get apathetic and complacent. They also warned that once liberty is lost it can not be regained. More than one of the founders alluded to that. Not sure that I agree but in this current world perhaps it is possible and perhaps more now than when the founders wrote of it so long ago.

      • DaveH

        Stacy,
        It sounds to me like you would agree with Libertarian principles:
        http://libertarianparty.org/platform

        If you do, but you think you would be throwing away your vote, then at least register to help us build the numbers needed for recognition, and then vote for the lesser of two evils (which is still just evil).

        I don’t think your fear of foreign military involvement in the US is unfounded. I have heard of very few countries that have fallen from unsolicited outside attack. The foreign attackers are almost always invited in by officials of the victim country. I could see that happening here. People need to wake up and realize just how vulnerable we have become. There are so many people now that feed at the government trough. And their votes are usually locked in for Big Government, so the rest of us are going to have to work really hard if we want to change things.

        • Stacy

          Dave,
          I don’t think I fit the Libertarian mold enough to define myself that way. I am a conservative but no longer associate myself with the Repubs…well, at least not most of them. I don’t believe government is in and of itself a bad thing really. I believe government left unfettered by a healthy fear of the people is a deadly thing. I believe we need to make some fundamental changes to the system. You seem to be pretty aware so you won’t be surprised that I am for term-limits on Congress and taking the gold-plated retirement and healthcare away from House and Senate members. Other things need to be changed but you get the drift so I won’t belabor the point. The time for partisan anything is way past.

          I had posted on another topic not too long ago and some liberals were insulting and calling names…not just me but most everyone. I figured I had wasted my time because they weren’t interested in legitimate discussion just disruption (Obama’s tactics on par). I find that it is those who wish to control others that try to marginalize them by calling them crazies or paranoids or…tea baggers. It is one of the lowest forms of manipulation. Quite frankly, I find that those who do these kinds of things seem to be rather undeveloped intellectually and emotionally. In the end not much of a challenge and really only challenge one’s patience. The attempts by the current administration to form tattle-tale brigades on the internet is just one sign that this is business as usual with a new and sinister twist. I read that there were already foreign military here on US soil. Truth or fiction? Don’t know but I am taking my cues from what I see Washington doing and I believe it isn’t good. I’m pretty certain that Toto and I aren’t in Kansas anymore, and definitely am not trusting enough that I won’t look behind the curtain in the corner. The doody is blowing in and it’s going to get deep. Time to find those shovels. If the smell of it coming isn’t enough to wake us up then I guess those left sleeping will be buried and suffocate under it. Time we called these party hacks like McCain what they are…sh*t peddlers. We have behaved like delusional morons because we didn’t recognize that both parties are doping their own with these delusions that they politicians are actually working for us and for the common good. We have believed the lies for so long that if we don’t wake up and get some huevos to stand up and confront them in a serious way then they have already dismantled our way of life and our freedom. What’s left?

          • DaveH

            Stacy,
            Please look into the Libertarian Party platform. I know some of their freedoms sound scary. But I could explain to you why they would work.
            For instance on the drug issue: Sure, it conjures visions of everyone becoming an addict, but alcohol is legal and we aren’t all alcoholics. I am a health-food nut myself. Anyway you can see that the drug laws don’t work. The drug wars are not only expensive but they have caused the costs of the drugs to skyrocket, thus enriching the evil element of society (the drug lords). And money is power. Most drug-related crimes are a result of the high costs. Also, the Government has used the Drug Wars as an excuse to trample some of our Constitutional freedoms, and many innocent people have lost their lives to drug lords or drug cops. The Mafia got their start during the Prohibition Era. We are just repeating history with drugs replacing alcohol.
            Under a Libertarian system, there would be no forced support (from the taxpayers) for those who screwed up. So the drug users would have to pay for their own mistakes. They wouldn’t be able to party till they drop and then ride on somebody else’s involuntary contributions (through Government) like they do now.

          • Stacy

            DaveH,

            No reply botton on your reply to our earlier discussion on the Libertarian party. I totally understand what you are saying and I will take a look at the positions held by Libertarianists more closely. There is a certain logic to some of what I have read. I guess I get caught between the practical side and the principle of the thing (whatever the thing is that is being discussed). Sometimes the practical and the principle are mutually exclusive. How to reconcile? I’m not certain they can be reconciled. Also, you are correct but then not. I am not foolish enough to “throw away” my vote. However, I will no longer be deceived into believing that I must vote for the lesser of two evils because corruption and greed are an implied necessary evil and are just part and parcel of the process. Should I vote for McCain just because he is the lesser of two evils or only because he has the R behind his name? I think not nor do I believe that you think that way. I’m interested to know how you reconcile that dilemma in your own thinking. I believe our attention has to be directed to the process entirely and long before the primaries when we have some choice over the “evils” we ultimately send to DC. I am amazed that so few actually pay attention to the primary season. I want to see principled and integral people in the running for office…not those who just say they are. I have yet to see change I can believe in but I have seen lots of change I just can not believe.

          • Joe H.

            Dave,
            I understand your wanting to push the libertarians and that is your right and I respect that. the only thing I’m worried about is what has happened in the past and will happen in 2012. If the libertarians have no chance of winning and I honestly don’t(don’t take offense) then splitting the voters up will just be the same as voting for O-man. By default, when a person has no chance to win but still runs, they only split the vote and assure another the win.

          • DaveH

            Joe and Stacy,
            What has voting for the lesser of two evils gotten us? Just an ever-increasing Government. If we got enough people behind the Libertarian principles then more people would become aware and the party would grow. Even now, for instance, Foxnews has two or three Libertarian commenters – John Stossel, Glenn Beck, and Judge Napolitano. The events of the last decade have convinced many people that the Government is too large, too expensive, and too intrusive.
            In the past the Libertarians haven’t gotten much exposure because the entrenched politicians don’t want Limited Government, and the entrenched businessmen don’t want the kind of competition that free market policies would bring. Guess who controls the MSM?
            But now thanks to Foxnews and the Internet, people can finally be exposed to the principles of Libertarianism. I don’t want to split the vote. I want to take the vote. But that takes some party building.

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        And also from what I heard on a TV report, where a guy has a problem with illegals coming across his property, killing his livestock and eating them, and trashing his property and making fires and stuff, and when he got no relief locally, he wrote often to McCains office, and he was afraid to get involved also. I dont get it. If one of these guys with any kind of power stood up and said they will be shot on site, or captured and returned immediately, and did it, well that person would get everyones vote. The few illegal alien votes these wankers strive for doesnt amount to a hill of beans.

  • Chris Arceneaux

    This is only the beginning. Wal-Mart has already launched a campaign “Project Impact” to put as many other stores out of business as they can. They are not happy with being the biggest they want to be the only! I am sure as soon as they do they will start giving out the mark of the beast!

    http://www.time.com/time/business/article/0,8599,1920698,00.html?xid=rss-top-aol

    • http://shirleypalalsathena@gmail.com shirley

      Right on, Chris……….i NEVER liked it that Walmart WAS trying to take over everywhere/everyone. The same with McDonalds, too.

      I will not patronize them AGAIN!! I like many other places/shops/stores and am satisfied there.

      • http://personalliberty.com Jessica

        Wal-Mart as The Beast? Now that’s a stretch. Wal-Mart is putting smaller companies out of business because they make good products at good prices. You can find a doorknob at the local hardware store for 29.99. You can find the same doorknob at Wal-Mart for 12.99. It’s called competition and free-market capitalism. It’s not some insidious, satanic plot. Just good, common-sense marketing.

        • Joe H.

          Jessica,
          and I can go to Home Depot or Lowes and get it for a few cents cheaper!!! Wal Mart has some questionable labor practices. I say that and I have become anti union so don’t start on that. I’m talking where people get hurt on the job and Wal Mart will draw the case out as long as possible till the person gives up hope. I have a friend who worked for them and got hurt getting a bike down from the top rack. When he asked for help they told him to just get it down. he asked for one of those platform ladders they use and his supervisor said you don’t need one just climb!!! he finally did and over balanced and fell directly flat on his back on a concrete floor from about 6 to 8 feet!!! the3y have fought him on the claim and if his wife didn’t have a job they would be bankrupt now!!!

          • DaveH

            I’m sorry for your friend’s injury Joe, but he should have just refused to risk his body like that. I have been laid off in the past for not putting up with disrespectful treatment. Oh well, there are other jobs.

          • coal miner

            JoeH,

            The reason your friend got hurt,it was because there was no union there.I wouldn’t dream of working in a non-union mines.I did once and saw a fellow miner cripple for life.This mining company was violating every rule in the book.If a mining foreman tells one of his workers in a unionised mines do some dangerous stunt,he would not only be fired,he would lose his first class papers.He could never be a foreman.John L. Lewis was a conservative and he said govenment shouldn’t intefere in laber and management.He didn’t endorse Roosevelt a liberal.Finding jobs ,not that easy.You can lose everything you got.Dave,you are well educated,finding jobs would be no problem,but what about the rest of us?We got kids.

        • American Citizen

          Wal-Mart does not make its own products. It has an agreement with China to sell their goods. If you look at the tags, almost everything they sell is made in China or some other foreign country.

  • JoC

    With all that Obama is doing to destroy America..it is even more important that he have to prove his eligibility by submitting his legal long form birth certificate. According to http://www.wnd.com there is a court date in Jan. to force him to do so. If then, he is proven to be ineligible everything he has done and signed will be void….Perhaps it isn’t too late to stop the destruction of America. Keep praying, we have a God who hears and understands, and can fix America.

    • Stacy

      Thanks for the link. I’ll be looking at this as well as I have been wondering what became of this issue. Can’t believe he was even allowed on the ballot without having submitted his birth certificate.

    • dagger

      I really hate to say this; but, regarding that January court date…consider this: Who’s court is it anyway? Theirs.

      The odds of his records seeing the light of day may very well share the same odds of a snowball surviving the fires of hell.

      • Stacy

        You may be correct. I appreciate your wonderful wit even if I hope you are incorrect about the outcome. :)

      • JeffH

        I hate to be the one to tell you, but there won’t be a court date in January, 2010. The judge tossed out the complaint, chastized and fined the attorney.
        U.S. District Court Judge Clay Land has thrown out a complaint questioning the president’s birth from an Army captain fighting deployment to Iraq and gave a warning to her lawyer, birther maven Orly Taitz.

        Land also put attorney Orly Taitz, who represents Capt. Connie Rhodes and is a leader in the national “birther” movement, on notice by stating that she could face sanctions if she ever files a similar “frivolous” lawsuit in his court.

        • Stacy

          Interesting. I’ll be reading up on this. Thanks for the information. :)

        • noreen cerino

          Federal Judge David Carter has set a date of Jan.26 in Santa Ana, saying Obama MUST prove his eligibility, and there was almost NO chance his case would be thrown out.

  • http://www.the912project.com SF Medic 713

    The question for me is this: If President Obama were out to bring down the United States, what would he be doing differently than he’s doing now? Our way of life is being undermined and we’re dying the death of a thousand wounds. His practices aren’t chipping away at our culture, they’re wholesale destroying them. One good thing about his policies is that conservatism is on the ascendancy once again. We can’t take three more years of this destruction. Sign petitions. Support conservative candidates. We stopped the new license plate tax here in NY by using petitions to force our legislators to hear us. Let’s continue to be the shining example of what’s possible, and not what once was opportunity for all.

    • Joe H.

      SF Medic,
      Came from town Hall right? MyOpine gave that very question a few months ago to Hal Drunkahoo and he wouldn’t or Couldn’t answer. I will though, He would do nothing different!!!

    • American Citizen

      In Obama’s own words, “We will fundamentally change this country.” What did the citizens of this country who voted for him think he meant? I guess they’re waiting at the trough. It’s quite a long line.

  • Scarlet4America

    If ever people needed to be contacting their Senators it is NOW. It is critical that ALL AMERICANS stand up and be counted if we want this Country to survive the Obama administration and the liberal democratic destruction of what this great Country was founded on. People need to be relentless….as relentless as Obama has been to create this new world order. I don’t believe there has ever been such a massive attack on our liberties and freedoms as in the last ten months. America wake up!!!!! It is going to take all of us not just some of us. Just look at how they are trying to dismiss the Tea Party movement. They have ignored the march on Washington on 9/12. They are saying we are anti-government, when we are just trying to protect this Country and the principals it was founded on. Obama, Pelosi and Reid are all anti-American and people need to wake up fast!!!! They are out for their own personal and selfish gain at our expense. Obama has insulted our military and all of us as Americans by apologizing for us to countries who only want to see our destruction.

  • jay

    Obama is a communist+has to dismantle the OLD WORLD ORDER to start a new one.He believes the WEST has exploited the rest of the world and REDISTRIBUTION is now just.Trouble is,there is no evidence for communism working anywhee.He also.has never managed a hot dog stand.Which is why his facts are levitated above REALITY.

  • Sam

    While you say this would be an unconstitutional ceding of sovereignty, that’s unfortunately not correct. Treaties when properly ratified have the force of law, under our Constitution, and thereby become Constitutional cedings of sovereignty.
    In similar fashion, every US Supreme Court ruling modifies the Constitution. The Supreme Court has done a fine job over the years of redefining interstate commerce, for example, to mean all commerce, ala federal jurisdiction over marijuana in states that allow it.
    This kind of chicanery needs to be stopped in Congress, and it needs to be stopped now. But with 9 out of 10 Americans sound asleep, it won’t.

    • DaveH

      Thanks Sam. We need to be a lot more vigilant about who gets appointed to the Supreme Court, or even the lower courts. We need to write our representatives and let them know that we will not accept Judicial Activists.

    • Joe H.

      Sam,
      You may be right on most of the practices, but I believe that there is a part of the constitution that expressly forbids our troops being placed under the command of foreign commanders. Thus they shouldn’t be under U.N. control at ANY time!!! I believe there are some other exceptions to what you say as well.

    • JeffH

      Some of you might like this email I recieved today.

      Proposed 28th Amendment to the Constitution of the United States:

      “Congress shall make no law that applies to any citizen of the United States
      that does not apply equally to all U.S. Senators and Representatives and
      Congress shall make no law that applies to any U.S. Senator or
      Representative that does not apply equally to all citizens of the United
      States. All existing laws and regulations that do not meet these criteria
      are herewith null and void.”

      • Joe H.

        JeffH,
        The only problem is we have a lib controlled government so it will never pass!!!

  • http://railrider@northstate.net Nancy

    That is what it all boils down to is one world government the President needed to be impeached before he ever got into office

  • Ronald L. Waldron

    Every day, a right wing chorus –fed by talk radio and Fox News– tries to demonize Barack Obama in a virtual crusade of vile fantasies. The consequence is a highly charged culture of paranoia, fear and violence.
    We voters are appalled by the race baiting and hate mongering rhetoric of Rush Limbaugh, Glen Beck, Michael Savage, Lou Dobbs, Bill O’really, (Word removed for offensive content) and the rest.
    When Barack Obama was elected President, we knew it meant a major change in America. But we never thought the change was going to result in the most polarized, hate-filled political environment since the days of JFK almost 50 years ago.
    Our answer, never elect a Republican
    again. We need a third party, how about an American Only party.

    • http://None James E. Morgan

      My answer – VOTE ALL DEMOCRATS OUT OF OFFICE, LOCAL, STATE, AND NATIONAL IN 2010!

    • David

      Uh Ronald, I believe it is your liberal buddies that are using the race card. Why? Because there is no way you can defend what he is doing with any kind of facts. So lash out at the independents and repubs. What a weak minded group you are and in the end you will be reckon’d with.

      • dagger

        here-here! It is crystal clear by Ronald’s characterization of Rush and others that he has never truly listened to AM talk radio. Further, I recognize his rhetoric as carbon copied tripe from the Democratic Party’s (land of the conveniently blind, home of the fascists) website. woof. Have you been to their site? Good golly! People like Ronald are sleeping silver spoon-fed, TV-programmed, true believing sheep who won’t realize their mistakes until the rude awakening when they’ll have realized they’ve been ignorant fool supporters of the destruction of their lives and of our country – a free America. Our choices are being systematically removed day by day while ignorant products of the public school system like the sleeping-sheep-Ronald continue to doze. Their arrogant level of spiritual and social awareness serves the government violates unalienable rights guaranteed by our Constitution and will ultimately enslave us all. A time of reckoning for troglodyte ideologues like this is hastened by their continued ignorance of fundamental liberties. Unfortunately for all of us, it will come a day late and impossible trillions of non-existent Federal Reserve Notes short.

        my hyper-inflated 2 cents,

        dagger

        • DaveH

          I’ve listened to news from all the MSM stations. When Foxnews came along they were a breath of fresh air. Finally we have a station that lets people know what’s really going on. And thank goodness for the Internet where common people can communicate freely (so far).
          Ronald doesn’t want to know what’s really going on because he doesn’t want to know. Ignorance is bliss? Or is he feeding at the trough?

          • JeffH

            I’m sure most of us can distinguish for ourselves the extremeists on both sides of the fence and come to our own conclusions. Thank god for Fox and the internet and MSNBC. They keep my eyes open and create wonderful referance points and provide up-to-the-minute information on the issues and news like President Barack Obama’s bow to the Japanese emperor Saturday-Until Obama, no president of the United States in the more than 230 years since the country was founded in 1776 had ever bowed to a member of royalty or the fact that he failed to salute the honored dead at a recent ceremony. These are just more proof that BHO hates the America we love.

        • denniso

          I’ve listened to the claptrap of clever morons like Limbaugh and Savage..it’s hard to listen because they are almost totally only spewing dogma and hysteria and hate. None of my friends can stand to listen so I do it to know exactly what you ‘folks’are going to be saying in exact copying of your glorious blabbing ‘leaders’. It still surprises me at times how literally you all follow,verbatim, what these fatcats rant, while you help them become filthy rich so they can play the nicest golf courses around the world w/ their slimy friends.

          • Stacy

            It sounds like you would dicredit the truth about our rights being taken because the messenger is making money from presenting the message. Personally, I don’t take anything , let alone everything, that is said or written as truth. The ability to think, analyze and discern used to be the purpose of an education…not so much anymore. Thank God I had parents who challenged me to do just that or I would fit into the mold of those who bite everything and know nothing. There are many of us who can see the truth in the message without lionizing the messenger. How about the hypocrite Michael Moore? Criticizes the capitalist system except that his credibility is nonexistent because he obviously doesn’t have a problem with capitalism when he cashes the checks from his so-called movies. The truth is that there have been many people that have done a great deal of service and damage by the message they bring and the unfortunate choices they make about the way they do business. Left and Right are both guilty. Are you of the opinion that George Soros, champion of the ultra-left agenda, isn’t making and/or does not stand to make even more money with his support of that agenda? I would challenge you to look at your own side’s vulnerabilities with this in mind. Al Gore is making a lot of money promoting what I believe to be global snakeoil. I don’t need any one to tell me that it is hooey. I formed my conclusion on my own by reading what both yea and nay-sayers wrote. Most conservatives would agree that we need to be prudent with and take better care of our home. The policies of Gore and his ilk are only for the benefit of themselves and whoever can hitch a ride on their money wagon. In the end liberals are hijacking liberals unwilling to look objectively at the agenda the liberal machine is pushing. The lies, corruption and conceptual hijacking are not the exclusive domain of any party, ideology or agenda. This is America after all and the land of opportunity. If a politician or person of any position can find an opportunity to screw someone for their (the politicians)own gain they are usually not particular about what ideology their “host” (implying politicians are parasites) ascribes to even if it is “one of their own” ideologically speaking. I do not intend this as an insult or attack on your ideology only a challenge to consider your own thought process as you seem to be so critical, not of those who differ in their ideology, but insulting our intelligence because you don’t like the messengers. Not usually a valid position in a serious debate.

          • JeffH

            Stacy, you reiterate the words of many, not only on this post, but many other posts as well. Well thought out and well said.
            Thank you.

          • DaveH

            You are wasting your time with Denniso, Stacy. He/she is a zealot who only hates the rich if they don’t support Obama.
            http://blogs.wsj.com/wealth/2008/10/13/the-rich-support-mccain-the-super-rich-support-obama/

          • Joe H.

            Stacey,
            denniso would call our founding fathers morons and right winger fringe!!! Of course I think of him as I do a fly. He eats from the lib party and he bothers people!!!!

          • Jana

            Joe, —and spreads diseases.

    • coal miner

      Ronald,

      Lou Dobbs is quitting CNN.

      • Patty

        I’d bet bucks you’ve never listened to Rush, Glenn, or any of the others. Most liberals haven’t and are just a bunch of media puppets who don’t want to hear the truth. If you actually listened to any of them you’d know they’re fighting for our freedoms with facts.

        • Joe H.

          Patty,
          Have you heard the EIB kids yet? I heard them while listening to Rush today and they are hilarious!!!! Sounds like about 10 kids about maybe eight or nine years old. If you haven’t heard em’ listen for them.

      • Patty

        coal miner…I hit the wrong “reply”. Sorry.

    • Richard Pawley

      One of the things that has helped this country be strong was that we usually had just two parties but the Bush/Obama spending has forced us into a great change that is coming. Bush spent more than any president before him and Obama has topped that in less than ten months. (This will assure tremendous inflation in the next 36 months even if the president abdicated tomorrow). My wife recently had a dream in which the president returned home to Chicago with his head bowed so low that she was surprised he could walk. Such will be his disgrace but he is only one person and he needs Congress and the special interests to really destroy the country. By himself he can do little. He is not a king. The point is…the inflation can’t be stopped…well it can be but as I explain in my latest book it would require a great change to personal morality and personal accountability which is sadly lacking in large segments of both parties and in big business as well. Of course non of them see that. Reminds me of the old saying “the blind leading the blind”. What Obama is REALLY doing is assuring that no Democrat will be elected president for at least a generation. Sadly no-quasi Republican will make things any better either. What we need is a Constitutional Party, one that believes in the principals of what the founding fathers brought forth for the first time in history on this continent. We do not need “holier than thou” politicians of any ilk who believe that they and Wall Street know what is best for every citizen from birth to the grave. As a nation we have rejected the righteousness of the God of our founding fathers and He is not amused. He let ancient Israel go their way when they got to big for their britches and He is soon going to let the Great USA (and the world) see what it is like to ignore his Love, and to follow the gods of hate, and greed, and murder. As the founder of Pennsylvania (William Penn) once said, “Those who will not be ruled by God will be ruled by tyrants.” Well, many states have made their choice and we are all going to have to pay the price. In the words of elderly NYC minister David Wilkerson, “God is judging the raging sins of America and the nations. He is destroying the secular foundations.” Pelosi and Reid and Obama are merely speeding up the process. A radical turn-over in next years election may slow things down a bit and that, I think, is worthwhile, but we are still going to have more inflation than Americans can imagine. Our government could be stockpiling wheat so our citizens don’t go hungry in a few years but few in Washington have any clue of anything outside their narrow interests. Soon no one is going to lend us any more money and we will just print what we need and that will ultimately destroy the dollar as it has every other countries money that has ever done this. (This year, for the first time in history, we have begun to do this. It’s one of the reasons that gold has shot up (and gasoline and dehydrated bananas and lead and…well you get the idea) because the value of the dollar has dropped more than 13% since Obama took over and a whole lot more since the Democrats took over Congress in 2006. Some in Congress will be proud that they have torn down “the Old World Order” and the burning and looting in our streets will be a result of their outrageous spending. Now, I’m not saying that all in Congress are doing this – there are about a dozen or so in each party who care about the country but they cannot stop the avalanche that both parties have been causing by their tinkering with the Constitution and their unbelievable greed, egotism, and spending, health care plans and energy taxes and all the rest. Think this is all outrageous? Just print it out and keep a copy so you can look at it in a few years and remember what the USA used to be like. If you believe in the God of the Universe then pray for His enlightenment and most of all get ready for a time like no other that has ever been. With God’s help things can get better for you – they are not going to get better for the world! May God bless all who love Him and their fellow man. You may feel you have no need of Him now. You will not be thinking that in a few years. Remember the saying “there are no atheists in foxholes!”

      • Stacy

        For whatever it is worth the Bible teaches that God will not let those that seek, fear, depend on Him fall but it also teaches that those of us who rely on Him will see it happen to the world system. This is all a big mess as we watch the festering pussball of greed and corruption come to a head. You wrote something to the effect that with God’s help it will get better for us but it won’t for the world. There are many examples of God’s provision for His people in times of extreme circumstances. I don’t believe that God’s people will fall (notwithstanding if we have been unwise or rebellious we will experience the natuaral consequences for it) but you are correct in that the world system that has thumbed it’s nose at God is imploding. If there was ever a time to seek the Lord and His way of doing things, even if the world is going to hell in a handbasket, it would be now. I read in another post that there are some who believe that our nation is under judgement. I don’t know that I believe our nation is under judgement so much as the Babylonian system is crumbling. There are many things that happen as a result of our own actions and in this case the actions of governments, soul-less heads of state etc that will result eventually in a reaping of natural consequences (apparently this system is reaping some serious consequences); however, in my mind the judgement of God is not the same as natural consequences. Having said that I believe the question begs to be asked, “How long can a nation make policies as we have in this country before we begin to see the consequences of those policies?” I guess we can look at what is coming down around us 9 and has been for the last twenty-five years) and get a pretty good idea of the answer. I’m not a scholar this is just what I believe. I enjoyed reading your comments. Thanks.

        • DaveH

          I don’t know that leaders are necessarily evil, but they are human, and it is human nature to feather one’s own nest first. We as voters just need to recognize that their inclinations are usually going to be to grow government larger. So, we need to be vigilant and throw out those that succumb to those urges.

          • coal miner

            Daveh,

            I totally agree with you about legalising drugs and euthanasia.If a person is in excruciating pain and there is no hope,I think dying a painless death is the only option.I would go for it.

          • DaveH

            Miner,
            I didn’t say anything about euthanasia. But I do believe it is the individuals choice whether to live or die. The problem is – how do we make sure it is the individuals choice?

          • coal miner

            Daveh,

            Euthanasia is in the Libertarian philosophy,isn’t it?If it isn’t.It should be.

          • DaveH

            Coal Miner,
            Euthanasia can be at the hands of others. This is not, and will not ever be part of Libertarian philosophy.

        • Richard Pawley

          Well, Stacy, you are a thinker too and I have appreciated what you have written as well in previous discourses. I have long wondered about the dichotomy (if there is one) between the natural consequences of our actions and God’s judgement. Is the coming earthquake in Los Angeles (predicted by what was found with Bible Code software many years ago) between now and September 8th of next year, a judgement of God or just tectonic plate movements that were known to the writer of the Torah over 3,000 years ago? Are the people in LA any more godless than elsewhere? Could it be all of the above? I don’t know. I do know that God forbid the sacrificing of babies or young children to alien non-gods in ancient times and in this country we have sacrificed about 50,000,000 infants, some right up to the time of birth to the god of Hedonism. These are all things I mention in my book on America’s last days (not necessarily the world’s). I know of only one bonafide prophet that I have ever encountered in my life and I mention him in both my books. I’m sure he wouldn’t agree with my understanding on some things but I know that when he says God has revealed something you can bank on it. He first mentioned this financial crisis the world is just beginning to experience back in 1989. He has also said that God is going to bring about a world wide famine. Doesn’t mean next year of the year after but the inflation I predict is coming will make food a lot more precious than we have ever thought of it before. Famine by the way was a classic means by which God chastised those who went astray in ancient times. The Book of Revelation predicts a time when a days food will cost a days wage. I believe we may live to see that, and the destruction of the dollar by those in Congress which will cause a ripple effect on all currencies, and one of many results will be severe food shortages caused by bad money everywhere. The CIA predicted world-wide famine over a quarter of a century ago and the Club of Rome (scientists) over 35 years ago. We are just living in and seeing the beginning of the causes of it all. Bad weather (and crop diseases world wide) doesn’t help either. Our nation owes more money than any nation has ever owed. The Progressives from McCain to Obama-Pelosi-Reid have squandered a Trillion dollars on so-called Stimulus packages (if you started spending a million dollars a day when Jesus was having the last supper and you continued spending a million dollars a day from then till now, you would have almost, but not quite, spent ONE TRILLION dollars. Obama-Pelosi-Reid and other progressives plan to spend or at least go into debt a trillion dollars each year for the next ten years! I predict it will never happen and that the whole system will crash first. The health care bill won’t cover everyone and it alone could make the value of our money drop in half. One hundred percent more inflation to pay for health care reform WITHOUT REALLY REFORMING ANYTHING! These people are all lawyers who have been living off the taxpayers for far to long. It is hard to believe they are ignorant of the destruction they are causing. 12 TRILLION already and a trillion more per year. It’s a debt. I do not believe that even inflation can cancel it all although a US dollar or a Zimbabwe dollar used to be the same, and last I heard it cost 12 TRILLION Zimbabwe dollars to buy a loaf of bread. Terrible inflation is needed for the Federal Reserves of the world to profit from their growing derivative investments so I believe they will do whatever it takes to create it (but not in used houses). Our money isn’t real anyway and that is why China and India and all smart countries but ours are buying up gold whenever they can. Gold will eventually go much higher but you can’t eat it. Learn to do what some in your state are doing, stockpile food for a lean year or a lean decade. I do believe it is God’s judgement. Mankind may turn to Him when millions are dying. Then again, maybe not! We do tend to be a stubborn lot, much like ancient Israel.

          • Jana

            Richard, The Bible also states that we will have a famine of the Word of God. That is already happening.

    • JAY FROM COLO

      WELL RON
      WHY ARE YOU EVEN ON THIS SITE UNLESS YOU DON’T BELIEVE
      THE LIBERAL LIES?
      THIS WOULD BE THE LAST STRAW FOR A LOT OF FOLKS, AND
      I’M AFRAID YOU MIGHT JUST SEE THE SHOOTIN START. I PRAY
      NOT, BUT.
      AND AS FAR AS THE HATE CARD,IF YOUR AFRAID OF THE TRUTH THEN I GUESS ALL YOU HAVE MENTIONED ARE RACE BAITERS. YOU FOOL.

    • DCK

      JFK’s political philosophy was a lot closer to Ronald Regan’s than that of BHO. JFK would call this man what he is, a communist.

    • Jana

      Ronald, with people like you voting all we would get is the same old same old, or same sick change that Obama is touting.
      You are right in that we need an American Party. One that stands for what is best for America.
      You are the one bringing up race, and hate mongering. I said it before but for your benefit I will say it again. If I met Obama I would probably like the man. He didn’t get where he is by being unlikeable. But his stand on what is right for this country is wrong. He has no good intentions for us.
      You are the hate monger. You are trying to demonize the Right. You also are blind to the truth. But, that is your problem.
      You talk about JFK. He really was a good President even though his dad backed Hitler in WW2 and had wanted to be Pres. himself, but since he backed Hitler he was done in this country, so he groomed his sons to be a part of our government. JFK was good compared to Ted. Ted was like his dad, rotten.

      • JeffH

        Jana, a little correction, Joe Kennedy never backed Hitler in WWII.
        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_P._Kennedy

        • Jana

          Jeff, then what was JFK and Ted Kennedy’s dad’s name? He is the one who did this.
          He was Ambassador to England and backed Hitler, therefore making him so unpopular that he could not run for Pres. I thought his name was Joseph but could be wrong on that point.

          • Curtis S

            You’re absolutley right Jana, it was Joe Kennedy Sr., the father of JFK and RFK who was most definitely a NAZI sympathizer, when he was the US ambassador to England.

          • JeffH

            Jana, Joe K being a Nazi sympathizer was based on his dislike of the Jews, whom he felt threatened his financial and political ambitions.
            He never backed or supported Hitler during WWII.

        • JeffH

          Jana and Curtis S…first things first, Kennedy never gave Hitler his support DURING WWII!
          Kennedy rejected the warnings of Winston Churchill that compromise with Nazi Germany was impossible; instead he supported Prime Minister Neville Chamberlain’s policy of appeasement in order to stave off a second world war that would be a more horrible “armageddon” than the first. Throughout 1938, as the Nazi persecution of Jews intensified, Kennedy attempted to obtain an audience with Adolf Hitler. Shortly before the Nazi aerial bombing of British cities began in September 1940, Kennedy sought a personal meeting with Hitler, again without State Department approval, “to bring about a better understanding between the United States and Germany.”

          Curtis S, you’re comment doesn’t have any bearing on Jana’s comment.

    • http://donthaveone Beberoni

      Why is it, when all these guys you mention, literally speak a word of truth exposing this Obama character for what he is, that you on the left call it “hate speech”? Maybe you should research the things they say, and when you find out what they say is true, contrary to the baloney you hear on ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN and MSNBC, you should write them and thank them for doing their jobs as talk show hosts and reporters, by telling the general public the truth. I reserve your right as an American to not like them, by turning off your radio and not listening to them, but your not going to get away with calling the truth they speak as hate speech, because its just not true. You tell me one lie they have said about this guy. Come on, dig deep. Where is it at? Tell me PLEASE, one lie? You cant, because you sir, are a liar, and you spread your propaganda. Shame on you. Please get educated before you spew your lies again.

    • eyeswideopen

      Ronald, those on this site claim to not be racists. I would like one of them to explain why the FBI is stating that the radical hate groups threatening to kill the President is up 400% in 6 months. This is the highest the threat has ever been. What could be the reason? Oh, that’s right, the man is black. What is the make-up of these groups? White. Not Asian and white, brown and white, just plain old white with no minorities mixed in. What is so alarming is that not only are they white, but they belong to one party, the Conservatives. What the group doesn’t understand is after they do the ultimate deed, the Conservatives will never again have control of this country. They will be defeating their purpose.

      • Jana

        Hmmmmm, eyes, you sure seem to know a lot about how a radical thinks. You also seem to know a lot about hate. That pretty well labels you very fast. It takes one to know one as well as you claim to know them.
        You also seem to think you know about conservatives and that is where you go wrong.

        In the first place, I don’t know why his threats are up to 400%, as we in this group are not the ones doing it. The Radical hate groups are the ones that are on the Fringe that go live out in communes and gather together to live. They don’t believe in paying taxes etc. I saw a documentary on them and yes, they are Radical. And, no we as responsible people do not agree with that ideology.

        What I would like to know is what is wrong with you and people like you. You seem to have a mental block that common sense just doesn’t penetrate.

        You have one goal and that is to tear down good decent people. You have one mantra and that is accusing those who don’t agree with you of wanting to do terrible things.

        I have learned that when someone accuses someone else so much like you are doing, it is what you are harboring in your heart yourself.

        Maybe you had better rethink your own motives.

  • Biresh Banerji

    The democrats will help Prez Obama to sign the climate change agreemansent. The Republicans will relent after some opposition and after some token ammendmants. The world is already bracing up for global government based on climate change treaty.

    • DaveH

      I doubt it. Look what’s happening with the health care bill. It barely squeaked by the House the second time around. There were many more pro-votes the first time it went through the House. Many of the Democrats from conservative districts are running scared now in the Senate.
      For the treaty to be ratified, there would need to be 2/3 approval by the Senate. I don’t think many Republicans would be willing to give up our Sovereignty.
      The only possibility I see would be if the Senate didn’t exercise its Constitutional power to ratify the Treaty. The citizens will make sure that doesn’t happen.

      • eyeswideopen

        Daveh. you need to check other sources besides Fox. The treaty is not going to be ratified. It is already dead. Our local paper already had article last week. They will be meeting but won’t be signing the proposed treaty.

        • Jana

          I sure hope so eyes. However Obama IS TRICKY and we are supposed to believe your newspaper uhhhh why??

          • Ray Parker

            Obama will sign the treaty, because he is Obama. There will be no Senate, or house acquiecense, because he was voted in, for CHANGE, you “idiots”, south of our “undefended” border, are to be complimented for voting for “change”!! change is what you asked for, as a people, and “change” is what you are getting!!”
            Obama will sign, and you folks, [and “we folks”, as well, will lose what little “freedom” we have left ~~~ !!!

  • Ralph Montigny

    You want to stop this madness,one of three steps,constitutional amendment,nullification by each state or remove the traitors by force,lets try the first two,inform enough people and we can do it.
    Remember evil can only win when good men do nothing.

    May God Bless the American People

    • dagger

      Constitutional conventions are a tricky game, as there are no rules until congress creates them. You like the change we got now. Try change on steroids with THIS congress setting rules for a Constitutional Convention.

    • denniso

      What a joke!!

      • DaveH

        Denniso,
        Go back to your trough.

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        You are clueless.

      • Joe H.

        dennisob,
        Will you PLEASE stay away from the mirrors!?!?!?! What a joke indeed!!!!

  • Keith

    For those of you who are Biblically literate (I know there aren’t many), it is our Father, Himself, who is making the one-world political system occur, along with a one-world economy, one-world educational system and one-world religion. These are the four hidden dynasties, hidden from most peoples’ eyes. He is doing it because so many people WANT to believe a lie, so He is going to help them believe it. What ‘those with eyes’ are instructed to do is watch like a man on a watchtower. Give the alarm to any who will listen. Fight the good fight of faith – otherwise our present world would become worse than in the times of Sodum and Gemorah. (Do you remember what the people were doing there?) As for our beoved U.S.A., fight on, because it is written that we will always control our gates (borders). It is my opinion that the good Christian citizens of the U.S.A., and possibly other Christian nations, will cause the deadly wound to the one-world government that anti-christ will come to heal. We are the “mighty ships of Chittum,” the great USA Navy and other military branches. So no, Obama is not anti-christ, but he could be the “Raiser of Taxes,” who does the work of anti-christ (i.e., satan). It is written that the Raiser of Taxes comes immediately before anti-christ. Let’s put all enemies under Christ’s feet – that’s our job. The sixth trumpet is sounding soon! Watch, watchmen, watch!

    • http://donthaveone Beberoni

      No, he isnt the anti-christ. It is written that I will recognize this one when he comes. This dude isnt him. But he is an evil dude, that represents an evil party trying to do evil things, and call them right. I will do what I can do to fight them, and that is to vote against them in 2010 and 2012. That is my responsibility. That is probably how this cat got elected, because so many people shirked their responsibility to vote, and let the uneducated vote this leper into office. Shame on you that didnt vote. Your irresponsibility is making all of us suffer.

      • http://personalliberty.com Jessica

        Obama got elected because ACORN found lots of dead folks in the cemetaries who were in love with the guy.

    • Ray Parker

      The “our father” you are referring to, is the Devil!! He makes the rules, and you “little people” follow him, not the GOD of the Universe. You will see, that the UN, will DIVIDE Jerusalem, and that will make the “real” FATHER, rather angry ~~ Why?? Because He said: Thou shalt NOT Divide the LAND!! That piece of “land” is Jerusalem!!!Well, for that matter, that piece of “land”, “happens” to the “piece of land”, that God gave to Abraham, and his descendents, which of course, includes Christians, as well as the Jews!!!

  • http://giovanniworld.wordpress.com/conservative-endowment-for-the-arts/ Bob in FL

    It is good to see everyone here agrees that obama is giving away our country. We, the U.S., need to get out of the U.N.and kick em out of America and take Al Gore with them. I pray that the case in CA on obama’s eligibility will end his political career. He is a British Subject, doesn’t matter where he was born, at the time of his birth his father was a british subject and laws at the time make barack British also.
    Should obama somehow succeed in getting his one world gov’t he will be a stones throw away from making America a Muslim nation under Sharia law.
    God Help us, God save us, God show us the way to defeat this demon, Through Jesus Christ, Amen

    • JeffH

      Bob in FL, sorry but there is no longer a case in California…it is now history. We have to move on to the imoportant things like stopping the Obamatrain and his “ship of fools” from destroying and selling out The Constitution.

  • Christopher

    This is maddness….I watched a video a week ago with Lord Christopher talking about this treaty…it was some pretty scarey stuff.I can not beleive that OBAMA can sign a treaty that will put a big tax on gas and heating oil that EVERY AMERICAN will have to pay. Is there anyone out there that is not a politican and will uphold our CONSTITUTION to the letter?? 3 more years…All will be lost by then.My children and grandchildren are the ones that will lose the most…….freedom and the end of the USA as you and I know it.

    • JeffH

      The possibilities are real as Lord Mouncton has stated. It is better to prepare for a fight than to respond unprepared. Contact your representatives and let them know your stance, with them and with the Obamanation’s menaical plan to ruin America.

  • Potlady

    Talk is cheap, folks. I know we’re all mad as hell but talking “ain’t” gonna totally solve the problem. The solution is not going to be painless. If we are responsible Americans who have worked hard to earn our own way without handouts from the “plantation massah” (Washington), then we probably have good, cushy lives and it is understandable that we don’t want to lose that. But we may have to make some financial sacrifices. If you lived in hurricane country like I do, you would understand how devastating life can be without power, goods, groceries, any kind of services……Gasoline pumps don’t work when there is no power. Water can be contaminated. The list goes on. But what if the whole country went through that? What if we all went “on strike”? I’ve lived through a hurricane’s aftermath and it’s not easy but I’m none the worse for the wear. It makes me more appreciative of the way of life this country affords us. Collectively, we can do something to wake up these buffoons in Washington by showing them how we can shut things down if they don’t like America or being an American. We have an expression in hurricane country – “Shelter in Place”. These trips to Washington and the Tea Party gatherings are great, but some of us can’t make those. I’m a caretaker of a disabled son and I simply cannot attend the ones that are distant, but I’d lay low for a few days if others would join me. Does anyone recall the movie, “The Day the Earth Stood Still”? (the original one). Why don’t we do that?……altogether at the same time. Wouldn’t that get their attention? Even if they can print money out of thin air, what good does that do if no one spends it or produces anything? I’m telling you……it won’t be painless.

    • DaveH

      It would be a lot easier to march on Washington DC. I have seen enough of Obama and his supporters to know they would just loot the United States if we quit working. The only non-violent solution I can see is to let our Representatives know to start looking for work soon.

    • Stacy

      I’ve never seen the movie you mention. I’m going to watch it so i understand what you are suggesting. If the idea is to not spend a dime that isn’t extremely necessary I think we should do that but as you say there are some who are just way too comfortable…it would be smart of us to pay the piper now by choice rather than later on their terms. Seriously, I believe the reason our economy is not turning is because there are a majority of Americans who are not spending because they have no confidence in where they see this administration heading. Or perhaps they see no direction in domestic policy only a so-called president who doesn’t even have a foreign policy except one of apologies for America and apparently selling us to the highest bidder for what I suspect is his own profit (ironically he thinks we should be paying them via this global warming treaty as well?). Guess that is a handy little system he has, huh? Are these notions showing up as a huge vote of “no confidence?” Coupled with an unemployment rate at 10.2% at last report and a housing market where no one has any value left in their homes is there anything left to wonder about the topic? Just some things I’ve considered.

    • Jana

      Well, the illegals all took a day off and shut down several businesses a couple of years ago. I haven’t seen the movie that you are talking about either.

  • Missy

    I have figured it out…why Romney backed out! He was bought off so McCain would run…who is in bed with the rest of them. Is Palin a pawn too? Just because they are running as a republican doesn’t mean they are truly interested in protecting the American freedoms. McCain ended up voting for the Healthcare reform and now the climate change treaty. We truly are in serious trouble! We were sheep too long…now the wolves have taken over!

    • American Citizen

      Read Sarah Palin’s book. I understand she has laid out what she stands for. She is a true conservative.

      • coal miner

        American,

        She is also a quitter.She couldn’t stand the heat amd she said it is time to get out of the kitchen.

        • JeffH

          Call her what you like. She poses a serious threat to the Dems, otherwise she couldn’t get Mad Magazine to cover her. At least she’s not a traitorous marxist Chicago thug like your kingO is.

          • coal miner

            Jeffh,

            A seriuos threat? They might bust their aorta laughing.She may make beuutiful poster girl for the republican party,they need all the help the can get.

          • JeffH

            coal miner, why don’t you explain to me why she gets all of this attention if she is not percieved as a threat to the Democrats and liberals? Other than believing what you hear by TMZ and MSNBC, what is the real reason she commands all of the attention over any Republican?

          • DaveH

            Lifetime Politicians from both parties are afraid of Sarah.

          • coal miner

            JeffH,

            Because all the magazines had copy rights on her,she is nuttier thana candy bar..Mad magazine should acted sooner so they could get in on the fun.She is a pretty joke,that is all.When people like William Buckley’s son wouldn’t endorse her,than she is not a good represented of the right.The well educated conseratives considered her a religious nut.

        • JeffH

          In short, Palin’s resignation has been misreported and misperceived because of the horrendously biased and incomplete coverage of her over the past ten months. It’s not just that a completely phony narrative has been created by the media which makes it easy for people to think of her as stupid, incompetent, overly ambitious, diva-like, nutty and capable of massive lies (the LA Times and NY Times published rumors she faked the pregnancy of her down syndrome child!!). If possible, it is actually even worse than all of that.

          Even if they were capable of seeing through the obviously grotesquely flawed media created caricature of her, the vast majority of the public simply doesn’t have enough information to connect all the dots themselves and put her move into its proper context. (I must state here that while in a rational world this should have been taken care of by the news media, Palin and her people should have realized this was not going to be the case and made more of an effort to lay the educational foundation for the resignation to be properly interpreted.)
          http://bighollywood.breitbart.com/jziegler/2009/07/09/the-truth-about-sarah-palin%e2%80%99s-resignation/

          • eyeswideopen

            Jeff, hard to argue with facts. Fact is she quit. Didn’t finish even one term. Even poor old Stanford in N.C. after caught having an affair is finishing his term, tough as it may be. She quit. There is no reason other than a family member dying to be a good excuse to quit mid term. She is a quitter. Even her own son didn’t want her to quit. She is in it for the money, and will make alot of it.

          • Jana

            Like her daddy said, she didn’t quit, she just paused to reload.
            She sure scares all of you liberals because she tells it like it is, and so many of us want to finally have someone like that speak out and say what the rest of us are thinking and feeling. Bugs ya, huh?

          • coal miner

            Jana,

            You are out of replies.Iam using Jeffh’s. I don’t think Sarahn Palin pause to reload,I think its her daughter’s jock boy friend.He loaded that daughter of hers and now he reloaded and now he ready to load another girl.What a life.

          • http://Yahoo Dee D

            Eyes- Palin may know a little about death panels tho. She has her 2 brain cells in a twist and has the health care plan confused with a complex being operated and protected by the Navy Seals right in her own state. You know how easy she gets discombooberated at times!!!!!!

        • http://donthaveone Beberoni

          I guess you think her staying as a popular governor, should be more important to her than to cling to her family and help hold it together in the light of the democrats trying to totally destroy all of them. She has her priorities straight, and you will see her again, as there is a time and place for everything. This time, it was time to be with the family to be united as the left was attempting to destroy them. I guess maybe your priorities in life are askew, or you dont recognize the truth when it hits you. You see, it was in the interests of the people she was elected to represent, that she resigned, as she couldnt give them her devoted attention as one that is elected is supposed to do, so she walked away. Why? Because the democratic left brought up all kinds of false charges against her, that it cost her over a million dollars to defend herself, against these frivilous charges. Those that made them should be put in jail, as it was just a political attempt to make someone look bad, because they could find nothing real to stick on her. If you cant see that, or dont understand that, then I cant help you.

        • Jana

          She does pose a threat to you. She is no quitter. You just hope she is, but you are wrong. She gave up her position as governor as the liberals of the state were costing the state a lot of money by suing her for petty things. I think she is a wise lady. She has my vote.

          • coal miner

            Jana,
            She quit because she couldn’t take the heat.I wouldn’t feel sorry for her too much,she making a killing off book deals and television appearences.All Sarah Palin cares about is her self.

          • JeffH

            coal miner, I’ll lay 10 to 1 you know nothing more than heresay about Sarah Palin. I’ll lay another 10 to 1 you believe everything that Obama say also. Do a little research sometime, you might just surprise yourself at what you can discover.

    • American Citizen

      Romney dropped out because his numbers were falling. Who bought out the voters?

    • WalkingMan

      Huckabee pushed his voters to McCain to give McCain a big majority in North Carolina – that convinced Romney that McCain/Huckabee were teaming against him.

    • DaveH

      Sorry Missy, but Romney was a RINO. Look up his history with the Massachusetts Health Care Bill.

      • Jana

        Dave, what do you mean that he was a RINO? Is that good or bad??

        • JeffH

          A RINO Republican is like a BLUE DOG Democrat.

        • Joe H.

          Jana
          Republican In Name Only!!!! R.I.N.O They are more liberal than conservative. That’s the reason a whole lot of people are ticked off at the republican party!!! Do like I did people I told the republican party I would donate to their party again when they get back to their conservative roots!!!

          • Jana

            Great, thank you both.

    • http://donthaveone Beberoni

      Thats why the Republicans lost. McCain is a far to the left as a Republican has ever been. Add to that that he is a career politician that people countrywide are tired of, and then add to that the fact that he is 150 years old, and its pretty easy to see why he lost. In fact, a lot of Republicans didnt go and vote because of him. I fully believe that if Sarah Palin or Mitt Romney were the one running, a lot more folks would have exercised their right to vote, and quite a few that voted democrat would have voted the other way. I would like to know what the Republicans were thinking. It wasnt very clear.

      • Joe H.

        Beberoni
        i think McCain lost a lot of his spunk over the years from the treatment he received from the NVA. He went through hell!!! He was a good man gone wrong!!

        • http://donthaveone Beberoni

          I realize all he went through, and it was hell. But Im thinking that as a career politician, after being in it so many years, they get so entrenched with special interest groups, and different “clicks” where certain groups think of themselves as superior or better than others, kind of like in high school. McCain was too friendly with the democrats, who used him like a school boy to help get what they wanted, and it wasnt good and he knew it, but he would go along with them anyhow to show them he was their friend. Problem was, they werent his friend back.

          • Jana

            In talking with my husband about McCain not leaving his captors during the war when he had a chance, he (my husband) stated that he should have gone home, and come back to get the rest of the captives. He knew where they were and back then it wouldn’t have taken an act of Congress for him to get a team together and go back in. Instead he stayed only to be tortured further.
            He became a martyr, and he could have rescued all of them.

          • JeffH

            Jana, with all due respect, I can’t buy into that one.

  • http://stanandelaine@verizon.net Stan

    Contact our Senators? Good luck! And how do we know who we can trust anyway? Obama is not the real problem. We should be asking “From whom does he receive his directives?” and “What is their agenda?” In order to get closer to the truth, we need to do our own research? It is unreasonable to expect transparency if you don’t know who you can trust. Corruption abounds in Government and Wall St. However, there is a glimmer of hope in that not all those in leadership are corrupt. If we are looking for honesty, character,integrity, compassion and leadership abilities in our leaders, then, I believe Ron Paul and Sarah Palin would be a good place to start.

    • DaveH

      Ron is getting kind of old, unfortunately. And I just don’t know enough about Sarah to support her. I do like the fact that Liberals are so afraid of her. If she wants to cut back the size of Government I would root for her. We need to hire only those leaders who promise to cut back the size of government – no ifs ands or buts.

      • JeffH

        I agree, I’m keeping my eye on Palin and can’t wait for my copy to come in. Also, You can bet a lot of research will go into every vote I cast. I hope others will do their research well before voting.

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        The liberals are scared to death of her Dave, thats why they launched 200 reporters to Alaska to dig up dirt, and all they could find was her teenage daughter pregnancy, and a bunch of false slanderous accusations they tried to muster up in their panic. They hate her and fear her because she speaks the truth, she knows God, she has a love of family, and she actually represented the people she was elected to represent. This scared the daylights out of them. She actually balanced her states budget, and gave money back to the citizens of Alaska. Now this concept is so foreign to the left, that they panicked and went into full frontal attack mode, only to come up empty, so they fabricated things to the press, who is a willing participant with the left to spread propaganda about that isnt true. When she announced her VP plans, I had never heard of her. So I read up and researched everything I could about her, and it was all good. Im sure the libs did do, and thats why she scares the hell out of them. Id vote for her in a minute, because she will tell her own party where to get off if they are doing stuff wrong. She will name names and expose those who do immoral things and loot our money we pay into the system. I fully trust her on that front, and Im not sure there is another politician I can say that about.

        • JeffH

          Beberoni, very good! Why would somebody “as stupid as Palin is” get all of this negative attention by the press and the WH Dems unless she really posed a threat to the “old school” politics of Washington.
          She rubs every liar in Washington DC the wrong way because she has some morals, something that isn’t present in mainstream politics at all.

        • Joe H.

          Beberoni,
          Don’t forget about those cases that went to court and all but one were proven FALSE by the courts. It was nothing but a smear campaign!! She came out almost Lilly white!!!

          • http://donthaveone Beberoni

            And I dont know why those that brought up these frivelous charges, dont have charges brought against them. When someone resorts to trying to destroy someone and their family with all these falsehoods, they should be held accountable for it. What a shame that a human being has to act in this manner all for the sake of politics. What a bunch of sad sacks on the left.

          • JeffH

            Beberoni, that tells you just how ruthless politicians are. If they feel threatened, they will get lower than worm poo poo if they have to.

    • http://none waymat

      Stan:
      About contacting your senator: You can get a list of all their email address’ off the Internet. One source lets you send your message to all of them at the same time with a single click. Sounds good! What they don’t tell you is that all those out of your area(that is, the area containing those you can vote for)are going to delete your message without reading it. You are no threat to them because you can’t vote for them. That information comes from looking up some of them individually. All that I checked said, “If you are not in my area where you can vote for me, don’t bother contacting me. I have plenty to deal with from those who can vote for me.” – or something like that.
      Where I have found success is calling the office of those I can vote for and talking to their office help. I managed to get the name and personal email address from one person in each office. Then I email my message to them. They in turn review it and, if they think their boss would be interested, they send it on to him/her with a recommendation that the message be read. I have gotten some pretty good result with this system. One Congressman sent me a personal email stating, “I got the message loud and clear. There are too many of you that have told me not to vote for the health-care bill, so I didn’t.” I immediately checked his voting record on the Internet and verified his statement. I’ll vote for him again. I have also gotten a personal letter from one senator on another issue with a favorable result.
      My message always includes the statement, “I am dependent upon you to share this with the others out of my voting area. Without your help they will never know about this.”
      If, in their opinion, my message is worth sharing, I know they will.
      Just remember, they get thousands of messages every day. It would be impossible for them to read all of them. They have office help who can screen the messages and get the really important ones to them. They can also tell their boss if the bulk of their messages are urging them to vote one way or another.
      Even to those you can vote for, if you just email their office, you likely will get a form reply. No matter how many times I did that, it would always be the same form reply, and never any followup.
      I hope this helps. Good luck to all of us. Looks like we are going to need it!!

  • http://www.mythicprojects.com Mockan

    Any such “treaty” is null and void from inception, because it is unconstitutional. No government in the USA can cede sovereignty.

    The penalty for treason is clear.

    • dagger

      Actually, from what I’ve read, Treaties are the loophole around our Constitution. The President can sign any treaty he want’s without congress’ approval.

      • Jane Scroggins

        Treaty??? What treaty has the country ever signed that it stuck to? Maybe one that put money into some politicians pocket. And I agree that any treaty signed that is unconstitutional is null and void. How we make these “sorry excuses” we have elected do their job is the big problems. I agree with impeaching the lot of them with very few exceptions!

      • DaveH

        From Article 2 of the Constitution.
        “He shall have Power, by and with the Advice and Consent of the Senate, to make Treaties, provided two thirds of the Senators present concur”:
        http://www.cato.org/pubs/constitution/article2_en.html

        • Joe H.

          DaveH,
          It also says that our troops shall not be placed under the command of foreign command. To surrender sovereignty would mean to put our troops under a foreign command and that is unconstitutional.

  • bill

    talk is cheap it is time to act .

    • American Citizen

      Talk has not been cheap for Obama, look at what he has cost us. I wonder what he is up to in China. China already owns us, what else is he going to give them.

      • denniso

        FOR YOUR SAKE, you better hope he keeps a good realtionship w/ China.

        • http://donthaveone Beberoni

          Heck with China. What, you afraid of them? Coward.

      • JeffH

        He’ll do another spineless bow down for sure.

        • Joe H.

          JeffH
          Did you see that Mao/O-man t-shirt they confiscated from the reporter in China? It showed a picture of O-man dressed in a communist Chinese uniform. It was the best selling souvenir over there but were banned about a week before his trip!!!! Guess they think the same thing about him as we do!!!!

          • JeffH

            I heard about it but haven’t seen it yet.

  • http://MSN “Aint Misbehavin’

    “I think we are headed for what is considered prophetic. Ultimately it will happen, but how fast or how slow is based on how hard we pray and live as according to God’s will. It started when our government legalized Roe vs. Wade and condoned the killing of the innocent. No blessing can come from Him for our country as long as this continues to be the law of the land. I’m no pessimist but this weighs heavy on my heart as I’m more the intuitive than an analyst. I know if this world government/climate treaty gets signed and approved sometime this coming year it will definately put us on the fast track; let’s pray for more time; perhaps based on the ones who practice true Christianity in the good ole’ USA God will give mercy.”

  • dager

    Of the government…by the governement…and for the governent. I don’t ever recall seeing those words, do you? These donkeys got it ass-backwords. What was that about the tree of liberty needing to be watered with the blood of tyrants and patriots? An argument could be made that the tree is mighty thirsty…trouble is…where’s the tree? I think the bastards cut it down.

    No Fear!

    Peace

  • http://www.stanelaine.com Stan

    It is encourageing to see from all the comments that there are many more people out there that share the same views and concerns for our country. For those folks who are seriously looking for some real answers to our national dilemma, allow me to suggesst doing some worthwhile research,(at the risk of being deleted!) Here are some areas of research that you can “google”; Council on Foreign Relations, Trilateral Commission, Bilderberg Group, and the Federal (origin of) Reserve. Just follow the links and connect the dots and you can draw your own conclusions. There are also several informative and helpful books, such as; “Revolution” by Ron Paul. “Fleeced” by Dick Morris. “Culture of Corruption” by Michelle Malkin and “The Creature from Jekyll Island” by G.Edward Griffin to name a few. Accessing the above information is a very time consuming process, but rest assured, it will be very much worth your time and effort.

    • DaveH

      Stan,
      You might be interested in reading this free online book:
      http://mises.org/rothbard/foranewlb.pdf
      There are more current versions (this one is 1978) but the principles are timeless.

  • Judy Ahrens

    True. This upcoming “Climate-Change” treaty conference is very scary stuff. Lord Christopher Monckton was on Pastor Wiley Drake’s Crusade Radio program recently explaining the seriousness of this treaty. I called in to the program and shared with him that ALL American patriots should take this information to their local televised city council meetings and he indicated that that would be a great idea. Judy, Westminster,California

    • denniso

      SO MUCH NONSENSE here that I can’t keep up w/ it! Don’t you people have any real work or good to do outside??

      • DaveH

        The majority of the Nonsense on this site comes under your name.

      • libertytrain

        You seem to be on here an awful lot yourself to be ‘critting’ other folks not having “real work” ???

        • DaveH

          They give him a 15-minute break from the trough every two hours.

          • Stacy

            Witty! Gotta love it.

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        Go away. Just go away. You never have anything intelligent to say.

      • Joe H.

        Judy Ahrens,
        do you have a sister or cousin named Patti? If so, Her husband Stev was my best friend in college.

    • JeffH

      Good idea, also write to your representative and demand that they block every effort by this madman to sign this garbage. Ignore the liberal hacks that suck into the Obama camp, they couldn’t run a dishwasher without their governments support.

    • DaveH

      Hi Judy,
      I used to live in Huntington Beach.

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        I was stationed in Long Beach in the service, and used to walk down the beach from Cherry Beach, to Belmont Shores, to Huntington Beach, if Im remembering correctly how they lined up.

        • DaveH

          Do you mean Seal Beach?

  • Jim

    All of you liberals who do not believe in God will believe anything else with uout a question! Why is this? most of you cannot even maintain your own side of an argument, FACTS are non existent to liberals. God will not let man destroy the planet!! It’s been here forever aand will remain forever, America isn’t the first Republic or democracy to fail. Guess what?? Archeologists are digging up the relics of people just like us all over the world as we speak. ANyone think all those greatnations and cultures were built by cave men or monkeys in transition?? It’s liberal bullshit at it’s finest hour! Global climate change indeed!

    • denniso

      Jim, unfortunately you’re giving other believers a bad association w/ your uneducated rant…’the earth has been here forever’??’and will be forever’?? WOW! I suggest you stay out of church a while and do some reading.

      • JeffH

        duh!nniso, how does your 4th grade mind qualify you to critisize others as ignorant? Go to school and get an education youself. Isn’t your recess over yet?

        • http://donthaveone Beberoni

          Hey now. Come on Jeff. 4th grade was the best 5 years of denniso’s life man. Didnt you know that?

    • Curtis S

      Jim… you’re very funny. You talk about believing in God and facts? Lol. Are you referring to “facts” like the sun revolves around the earth? Intelligent Design? The planet is 6000 years old? Pick a side Jimbo… facts or religion.

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        Depends on what you mean. To me, Christianity is a fact. Religion is a bad word. It means division to me, as does denomination. It wasnt supposed to be that way. But when you talk facts and science, everytime they have taken science to look at something the Bible talks about, it has been proven correct. However, they spend billions of dollars trying to use it to prove that a bird pooped on a rock, the sun fermented it, and up we stood. Otherwords, they spend billions trying to disprove the Bible, and they havent been able to do it. If they spent those billions on archeology and opening up fenced in protected sites in Iran and Egypt and such, where a lot of factual evidence lay, but are kept from the public by those of muslim inheritance, well a lot could be revealed. But science today isnt really interested in the truth, they have their agenda to push. Kind of like the democrats.

      • American Citizen

        Curtis, the Bible does contain some history that can be validated, but it is, strictly speaking not a history book as we think of history. It is rather, a book of salvation history. You can believe of not believe, faith is a gift. God does not force anyone to believe. You heart has a door with no knob on the outside. It can only be opened from the inside to let Him in.

      • coal miner

        Curtis,

        I like the way these religious buffoons get bent all out of shape,when you don’t agree with them.They resort to all kinds of foul languages and threats, what they will do,if they ever come in contact with you.

    • coal miner

      Jim,

      The earth is approxminately six billion years old.

      • Jana

        Coal miner, we never said it wasn’t 6 billion years old. In fact I agree with you. There are some that don’t, but most of the Christians do.

    • Grant S.

      Jim-

      You caught me…I did think Rome was built by cavemen. And I also thought Romans discovered fire…wait…I’m soooooo confused now.

      I know–I’ll turn to the bible for facts and moral support! (I’ll take it on “faith” that it has been conveniently, accurately, and truthfully [with no bias] translated into modern English, just for me!)

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        Count on it. But get the greek also, because some words have 3 or 4 meanings, so it can clear up quite a bit. Or if your that skeptical, learn to read Aramaic, then you will know. But I imagine its easier for you to consider it all foolishness, as the Bible says that it is considered foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who believe it is life. There you go. Have a good day.

        • Grant S.

          Beberoni: God has told me that I’m not perishing, rather doing just fine. In fact, he/she gave me the ability to read ancient Greek–I’ve already taken you up on that offer of checking out the bible in previous incarnations, which is exactly why I think, FOR ME, it’s not the best idea to consider it the *exact* words of god et al.

          • Jana

            Grant! Really, you need to keep your stories straight!
            In the first place you don’t know if God is a man or a woman. Of course you would not consider the Bible to be the exact Words of God. You are blind to the truth.

            In one post you claim and brag that you are such an educated and supposedly accomplished man. I quote you”Dude…let’s not talk education. I’ll run circles around you: turbo-charged, a**-whooping CIRCLES. I was educated at an ivy league university, speak 6 languages other than English, have started two companies of my own…just don’t even go there”

            Generally someone who really is as smart as you claim to be does not need to brag about it. This just makes you sound like a bully.

            As I said in an earlier post, and I quote myself “One more thing dear Mr. Grant:
            In one posting you claim you are a super smart guy, so much smarter than any of the rest of us on this board, and you have so much education. Hmmm, reminds me of the phrase “educated idiots”. If the shoe fits etc. etc. You also claimed to be an agnostic (in another posting). You sure are all over the board here on yourself. Me thinks you are just a little too full of yourself!

            If you are an agnostic then as you claim, then you have no god in your life. You don’t need to try and study the Word in a foreign language.You have enough trouble reading and speaking English.

            You see Mr. G., if you tell the truth all of the time then you don’t have to try and remember any lies that you have told before.

          • Grant S.

            Jana: what story have I not gotten straight? Tell me I’m blind to the truth–and I’ll tell you the same: you’re blind to the truth (and possibly reality). Great. That was a productive discussion.

            This is the convenient, “get out of jail free” card that I witness almost every single time I have even the slightest discourse with a self-proclaimed true believer. Jana, I think it’s awesome that you have your faith–it’s fantastic. There are about 2.3 billion people lined up behind you to tell the world the same thing, be it catholic, pentecostal, muslim, hindi, etc. etc. My believing in the same god as you should have nothing to do with…well…anything. It’s, quite frankly, irrelevant.

            As for my alleged bragging: I *never* suggested that I was smarter than everyone here–it’s unclear why you read it that way. I was specifically responding to JeffH lazily tossing around the Marxist/education claim. Contrary to being a coward (which you find so deplorable), I assume you’ll support my decision to defend my educational background rather than accept some half-heartedly lodged criticism that had no basis in fact. I merely chose to point that out colorfully. Cheers.

            What’s curious–and not that surprising–is that none of my rebuttals surrounding policy, politics, or government have once been addressed with any semblance of fact on this comment board….they have 9 times out of 10 devolved into some name-calling session or Christian sermon; “you live in a fantasy world” screams by “true believers” who take large parts of their interpretation of the world on faith. To not even recognize an even modicum of incongruity in that…it’s…this country is so screwed. What portion doesn’t believe in evolution again?

      • American Citizen

        It was translated first into Latin before it was translated into English. It’s been translated into quite a few languages since. As it’s said, the original authors were inspired by God to write the Bible, but were the translaters inspired? We don’t know the answer to that.

  • Earl, QUEENS, NY

    A few months ago, I read on CNSnews.com about Hillary Rotten Clinton at a global warming and climate change meeting in India; pressuring them to enact Cap & Trade legislation. If you belonged to a church such as a Conservative Baptist, as I do, what would you think if your pastor met with Catholic priests and bishops – telling them to be tolerant of abortion? Or if he apologized to the more liberal church leaders for preaching against the GLBT lifestyle? You’d want to fire him on the spot!! So why do we tolerate those in Washington who are so anti-American and want to spread their agenda worldwide? Here we see Hillary Rotten Clinton apologizing for America (like her left-wing Kenyan boss – BHO!!), and telling nations like India to restrict freedoms and stifle economic growth by catering to the environmentalist wackos. The problem is that there are so many stupid voters who continue to re-elect leftwing statists/traitors like Clinton and Waxman in NY and California, respectively. This really makes me think of a bumper sticker I saw back in the 1990s – “IMPEACH CLINTON….AND HER HUSBAND TOO!!” And let me add to that: ‘..and Obama, Waxman, et al!!

  • Frank

    We need to start the IMPEACHMENT Process IMMEDIATELY.
    No Doubt about it now!

  • http://www.Yahwehnews.com Jas

    All great nations fall due to the internal situation. When I witnessed Obama being voted in as President I felt really let down. The Western world is under threat. Its about time the Corrupt Senate and Congress of the us including our Brtish parliament had another clear out. In the coming elections vote for independents and both Britain and America can be saved.

    • http://donthaveone Beberoni

      When I saw Obama being sworn in, I went back to that statement Michelle Obama made, when she said “I have never be proud to be an American until now”. At that moment, I said to myself, “I have always been proud to be an American, until now.”

      • Jana

        AMEN!

      • American Citizen

        I felt the same way.

      • Grant S.

        How can you get something *THAT* wrong. The internet is a veritable treasure trove of information…REAL information, if you check out sources and look things up for yourself. If you’re going to use quotes (with actual quote marks), *at least* print the real quote: “For the first time in my adult life I am really proud of my country…”

        What’s an adverb, adjective, or negative modifier here and there.

        http://www.breitbart.tv/html/49244.html

  • s c

    Other than love, nothing that comes from the hand of man can last forever. No NWO can last forever. Our ‘leaders’ have given us a government built on a foundation of sand, and they expect us to worship it.
    Is there anyone left who sees comrade obama and his bunch in a good light? If you do, get your vision checked.
    Reality comes with a price. Those who think a NWO is better may experience quite a shock when the price is paid. The only reality topic that matters is being played out before our eyes. Open your eyes, and think.
    The world’s clock is ticking, and all people will have to choose between masters. Only one master will win, and He never held any office in any country.

    • http://donthaveone Beberoni

      Amen brother, the True King.

    • American Citizen

      We really need to get back to the foundation this country was built upon and adhere to the Constitutional government our founders gave us. The present government has no use for the Constitution, that is very plain.

  • David Landsbergen

    This info needs to be used to contact all of our reps in Washington. Let’snot waste anytime with this.

    Thanks for that info Bob!!! Just incredible. The hegelian dialectic is applied to the “global warming”

  • Jim

    Here is an article that says the Global Warming is a hoax and signed by over 160 World Scientists…including Nobel Prize Laureats.

    ‘Consensus’ on Climate Change Is ‘Fake,’

    Scientists Say
    A team of scientists has sent a letter to all U.S. senators warning that a claim there is “consensus” in the scientific community on the climate change issue is false.
    The letter dated Oct. 29 reads in part: “You have recently received a letter from the American Association for the Advancement of Science (AAAS), purporting to convey a ‘consensus’ of the scientific community that immediate and drastic action is needed to avert a climatic catastrophe. . .
    “The claim of consensus is fake, designed to stampede you into actions that will cripple our economy, and which you will regret for many years. There is no consensus, and even if there were, consensus is not the test of scientific validity. Theories that disagree with the facts are wrong, consensus or no.”
    The five signees of the letter include professors from Princeton University, the University of Virginia and the University of California, Santa Barbara.
    The letter refers to an earlier open letter sent to Congress by those five signees and others declaring: “The sky is not falling. The earth has been cooling for 10 years, without help. The present cooling was NOT predicted by the alarmists’ computer models, and has come as an embarrassment to them. . .
    “We are flooded with claims that the evidence is clear, that the debate is closed, that we must act immediately, etc., but in fact there is no such evidence. It doesn’t exist.”
    The Oct. 29 letter also notes that the American Physical Society, an organization of physicists, did not sign the AAAS letter and states the society is “at this moment reviewing its stance on so-called global warming, having received a petition from its membership to do so. That petition was signed by 160 distinguished members and fellows of the society, including one Nobelist and 12 members of the National Academies. Indeed a score of the signers are Members and Fellows of the AAAS, none of whom were consulted before the AAAS letter to you.”
    The petition reads in part: “Studies of a variety of natural processes, including ocean cycles and solar variability, indicate that they can account for variations in the Earth’s climate on the time scale of decades and centuries. Current climate models appear insufficiently reliable to properly account for natural and anthropogenic contributions to past climate change, much less project future climate.
    “The APS supports an objective scientific effort to understand the effects of all processes — natural and human — on the Earth’s climate.”
    The 160 signees of the petition range alphabetically from Harold M. Agnew, former White House science councilor and former director of the Los Alamos National Laboratory, to Martin V. Zombeck, a physicist formerly with the Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics, and include Ivar Giaever, who shared the Nobel Prize in physics in 1973.

    • Stacy

      Thanks for the information. Where might I find the letters to read them entirely? I’ve seen many websites given and documents referred to here on this post today. An informed citizenry is a powerful force with which to reckon. Which is why so many places in the world don’t have much use for educating people they deem to be without value. It is easy to control those who are ignorant. We should all keep this in mind when BHO starts on the “education crisis” and suggests his “cure” for what ails our education system. Incidentally, anyone but me notice that EVERYTHING he has tried to set “policy” on has always been a crisis even if it wasn’t before. I guess he believes if he yells the sky is falling all the chickens will loose their minds and give in to any ridiculous “solution” he comes up with. As the Obama talking head said just after election, “you never want to let a good crisis go to waste.” Wonder what the plans are when the real crisis of North Korea and Iran blow up in his face? I’ve never seen a so-called president who has no domestic or foreign policy. Guess we can all take comfort that Michelle is having a lovely time shopping and gnoshing in all the hippest places. Lucky us! We are paying for it too. Millions without jobs and many having lost their homes and we should feel privileged to pay millions and millions so she can be all shopped-up and enjoying her experience as the…I can’t even say it. She is not a lady that has shown herself to be a first of anything except the first wife of a president to wear a dress that made her look like a pinata and spit in the faces of the American taxpayer. Shameful!!!

    • http://donthaveone Beberoni

      I agree that its all a bunch of baloney that Al Gore came up with to make some billions of dollars for himself and his cronies. But you did yourself an injustice in this post, when you cited Nobel Prize winners. That award has been made a joke, since guys like Yassir Arafat and Jimmy Carter and Barack Obama have been given them. It no longer means anything special anymore, it is a political award now, nothing else.

  • Happy

    YEP, one world gov’t is coming. Don’t forget that agenda was quoted by the Senior Bush long ago…”we shall succeed.”

    Start praying people, no power is greater than the power of God. Jesus will hand the kingdom back to God after He has put down all dominions, powers and authorities un der his feet.

    • denniso

      Happy….I think that some on this site don’t really want you on their side, even if you do loathe your president. Religious extremism and literalism has said the same thing for thousands of yrs, even before your Jesus came around. Nothing new..3,7,11,15,500 yrs from now, people like you will still be saying exactly the same thing…old.

      • nanosplit

        denniso——
        Sounds like you have a very high opinion of yourself.
        I suggest your the one who needs to do alot more research on the topic. Dig a little deeper and maybe you can lose that arrogance.

        As long as we think in the terms of Rebublican/Democrat,
        Left/Right, Conservative/liberal we are thinking just the way the global elite want us to—-as if there is a choice. The Fed. reserve is theirs, the UN is theirs,the mass media is theirs,they control public education and all the recent Presidents.The one world goverment is on its way. When? As soon as they can pull it off. Afraid? NO_NO_NO—-they are losers. Praise the LORD and pass the ammo!

        • coal miner

          bananasplit,

          It is people like you,that we may lose our precious right to bear arms.
          Cut the bull.I like to keep my guns a little while longer.

          • JeffH

            A typical liberal response to a “cliche”.

          • nanosplit

            Coalminer—- you’ve been in the mine to long, come out and take a look around.

        • denniso

          Dear nano…No, I don’t have that high an opinion of myself..it’s just that there is so much nonsensical crap written on this site that my stuff looks like shakespeare in comparison..sad but true.

          • DaveH

            No your stuff is more like the character ‘Bottom’ in Shakespeare’s “A Midsummer Night’s Dream.”
            Donkey Buffoon.

          • JeffH

            DaveH, you’re to much, I can’t stop laughing!

      • Sam from Nokesville

        Misinformed Denniso, people like Bob Livingston who speak the truth don’t have to rehearse what they say. It is people with your personal agenda tied to your moral incorrectness that can adapt to any situation that appeases your built on sand ideology. Actually, in 15K years and beyond, all whose lives are built on Biblically correct principles will be singing Amazing Grace with our Creator and Savior. Join us by turning on your off receiver and start picking up the signal from the true and only author of Liberty, that our country’s framers acknowledged in our founding documents as “OUR CREATOR.”

      • Jana

        dennis, like Stacy said above, it is easy to control the ignorant. You fit that bill as the liberals sure have you under their control. Oh well, you give us all something to laugh at.

        • JeffH

          I’m still laughing…

        • denniso

          Jana…you spelled my name incorrectly.

          • DaveH

            He’s right Jana, It’s spelled D O N K E Y.

          • JeffH

            DaveH, laughing loudly!LOL!

        • American Citizen

          Unfortunately, they’re allowed to vote.

      • http://none waymat

        Hi denniso

        A Christian was trying to convince an atheist that the Bible is true and God is real. The conversation went something like this.

        Christian: God has a place called heaven where believers can spend eternity without war, poverty, sickness and death. You’ll not even get old, or ever experience fatigue again!! — and on and on —

        Atheist, interrupting said, “Ahhhh!! Cut it out! There is no such place as that!!

        Christian: Wouldn’t you like it if you could believe there is?

        Atheist: Well—- yeah. A person would have to be crazy not to want there to be a place like that.

        Christian: If I can tell you how you can prove it to yourself, will you put it to the test?

        HERE IS THE TEST:

        Get a Bible. Set aside a thirty minute period of time in your day. Find a quiet place where you will not be disturbed. Open the Bible and lay it before you. Now you are ready to Throw a Challenge to the God you don’t believe exists. You may sit, stand, kneel, or simply look up or just bow your head. Here is what to say. “God, I have been told that I can find out for myself if you are real by doing this. Well, I don’t want to die any more that anyone else so, in order to be fair to myself I am going to put this to the test. I’m going to spend thirty minutes reading the Bible uninterrupted. I will repeat this everyday for thirty days. If you are real and the Bible is true, please, sometime before that thirty days is up, reveal Yourself to me. If I like what I see I will continue giving You this thirty minute period each day for the rest of my life.”

        waymat: denniso, I was the first one I know to put this to the test. The revelation was profound! Nobody knew I was doing it. Everybody around me noticed the change taking place in me. I was the last to realize it. Now, I can face all the trouble in the world with an unshakable peace – the peace mentioned in the Bible as ‘the peace that passeth understanding.’

        The particular person referred to as the atheist in this short story did also put this to the test. Within less than a year, without any further input from the Christian (me), I witnessed his baptism into the Christian faith. Give it a try yourself. Be honest with yourself. It will be between just you and God. If, after thirty days, you can’t tell any difference, then just go on with your life and forget it. You only lost a litle time. No harm done.
        waymat

        • http://donthaveone Beberoni

          I would recommend that for everyone. Or you could be like me, and make a total mess of your life, and wake up one day and your 40, and wonder what the heck you have done, as you see all the messes you have caused. Then I reached rock bottom, and cried out to the one person that I had avoided all this time. I cried out for Jesus, if He was real, to show Himself to me, and save me from this despair I had put myself in. Oh yeah, He showed up, immediately. I got the bright lights in the room, and picked up off the floor as I laid there, until I was on my feet, and inside, I was told,”its allright now”. My life has been great since. Not everyone receives the revelation of Him like this, others are more subtle. But I would recommend your method of finding Him, it would save some a lot of pain. I know, Ive been there.

        • denniso

          waymat…Thanks for the concern for my wayward ‘soul’,but I was raised w/ religion and have heard the talk a million times..besides, what about separation of church/state?

          • DaveH

            What about it? Show me where in the Constitution that it says anything about Separation of Church and State.

          • American Citizen

            The Constitution says nothing about separation of church and state, but Jesus did. He said, “Give to Caesar the things that belong to Caesar and the things that belong to God to God.”
            The Constitution limits the power of the Federal Government ( if it abides by it). It cannot lord it over the churches not prevent the free exercise of religion. However, it can stop some religious practices, for instance, human sacrifice which would be classified as murder. Any true believer would agree with that.

          • http://none waymat

            Hi denniso;

            Your religious history is very much like mine. I was about thirty eight when I put the suggestion to the test. I also had been hearing it all my life as well. When I was challenged to put this idea to the test I thought to myself, “By the way, my life is very likely half over all ready. If there is anything to this religion stuff I better be checking it out! After-all, I consider myself fair to everybody else – why not be fair to myself and give this a try.” Boy, am I ever glad I did!! I have been walking with the Lord many years now. I just had my seventy-fifth birthday. The many troubles I have had to face have been much easier than they would have been the way I was living.

            Why not try it denniso? If it doesn’t work it really hasn’t cost anything . The time well have been well spent. You will then be able to truthfully say, “I did everything I could to find out if God is real. Now I can get on with whatever I have left of the rest of my life and not be bothered by it.”

          • http://none waymat

            Hello again denniso,

            I forgot to comment on the separation of church and state. I’ll have to confess I have never checked to see if the constitution says anything about it. I do know we are blessed with religious freedom (if we get a one world government, we will probably eventually loose it).

            No matter what the government says though, the Bible says “—we ought to obey God rather than man.” Acts 5:29. Many people have had such a close relationship with God that they did just that when their freedom was denied by the government. It has cost many many of them their lives. They will live again though. This is the blessed hope.

            Let us all prepare now for that eventuality.
            Waymat

          • denniso

            DaveH and Am citizen…You’re serious? You guys are always lauding the virtues of the constitution and you don’t know that it addresses the establishment of religion? You’d better quit ranting and spend some time reading.

        • http://Yahoo Dee D

          Amen waymat. Another thing I personally do (between the Lord and myself) – When I have a heavy burden on my shoulders and I need help – I’ll get my Bible say a pure heartfelt prayer and ask for guidance. Then I open my Bible at random and many more times than not I get the help and answers I prayed for. Other times I was led into area’s I needed without realizing of what was about to happen.
          One more thing – If people would go into the book of Revelation – read about the time and take a good honest look around – they will be able to see it’s happening all around us every day. And yes Dennso, there is an anti-christ who will be able to work miracles and many will mistake him for GOD. Many just people will be fooled, just as many will be called but ferw will be chosen.

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        He is your Jesus also denniso, you just dont know it yet. But I assure you, one day you will. One day you will.

      • JeffH

        duh!nniso, and you libs will still be blaming Bush!

    • DaveH

      Happy,
      Just ignore Denniso. He is the board Harpy who rarely contributes any facts. Personal attacks in lieu of facts are his game. Typical Liberal.

      • denniso

        Unlike you I suppose,who only supplies phoney numbers and an incessant selling of the fringe Libertarian utopian dogma.

        • DaveH

          No, Donkey, it is you Liberals that believe in Utopia. Libertarians believe in freedom.

      • American Citizen

        No, we need people like him here so we know what they are thinking. How can they learn otherwise that their thinking is so wrong. Operating on feelings is the liberal way and they tell s how they are feeling.

  • Randy

    One simple solution to all this mess and it will all go away with violence. You’ve always heard do unto others as you’d have them do to you. Well, Our Elected officials in D.C. for years have fought hard to take away our job security that we worked to build all these years to get. Lets return the favor. Since they WORK for us, and WE write THEIR checks. It’s time for a pay cut. Starting immediately,all elected officials will be required to be on the job and at their desk at 8:00 a.m. sharp: no time clocks, if you are late, don’t bother showing up because you have been replaced, just pick up your last check at the front lobby. You will be required to be there for eight hours a day five days a week, and reading is a requirement. NOT AN OPTION. There will be no undue influence by outside sources (Lobbyists) allowed on federal properties or within 1500 yards of a federal building during session. Each elected official is required to visit his constituants quarterly to find out what their needs in those communities are and what they can do to help meet those needs. Any representative that has wrongfully obtained their seats through deceptive means (Lied) to get the position of power will be prosecuted to the full extent of the law and serve the full sentence with no special terms offered. You will immediated take a 20% pay decrease, all government sponsored vehicled will immediately be returned, there shall be no more re-imbursements for trips outside of your workplace in Washington, no motels, no gas, and no restaurants. Pack your lunch because the FREE LUNCH on the AMERICAN people is OVER. Upon your retirement with the federal government, you will be put into the Social security system just like the rest of the American People. There will be no more 7,000,000.00 retirement plans for Washington retirees at the expense of the American People. We are Sick and Tired of the Abuse and Usery and your hands.

  • http://Sympatico Kelly

    How will the oil producing Middle Eastern countries vote on the treaty?

    Western and European nations will finally and quickly design electric and water powered cars.
    Funding to the Muslim Jihad by oil purchase will be severely reduced.

    Sounds like you loose some you gain some!

    • DaveH

      Their is never a gain from Big Government intrusion into the Markets.

    • American Citizen

      We will mostly lose, They are not looking at unintended consequences. How are they going to get goods moved from one corner of this country to another? How are they going to stop a storm? It’s men trying to play God and it has never worked. God will not be mocked.

  • ONTIME

    The rape and pillage of the world’s wealth is being systematically divided among some of the biggest thieves this planet has ever known, those like Algore and the Obama bunch, the Clintons, ect. and the socialist sympathizers are all gathered on our soil and they want to grab control and milk mankind in any way they can. You can bet this uncredentialed moron we are supposed to refer to as a POTUS is going to sell us out and the majority party along with the RINO’s are going to try and ratify any agreement the economic dummy signs.

    You had best hope this guy doesn’t get to finish his first term and that 2010 is a massive turn around to begin to run these kind of putrid thieves out of office and into another country. This country is boiling now and the lid is about to blow off, any kind of impropriety at the polls will set off conflict and you can bet that will be a excuse for instituting heavy handed law, legal or not. This administration and their party are loking for a way to avoid these next elections and nullify the vote, they will use any means.

    • Randy

      Thus we have what they call the CZARS of Washington D.C. and the special interest group called the caucus. There for only one reason and one reason only and that is to undermine the integrity of the free system in which we believe.

    • American Citizen

      I always have to laugh when the down the “rich” as they are describing themselves.

  • coal miner

    Dave,

    I can’t find it,the word gay comes from French,meaning woman impersonator:Don’t quote me,I think It is pronouce LeGeis.Look it up to see if that is the correct prnounciation of the word.
    The word faggot:Comes from Medieval times.Girl Boys.They did women’s work and pick up fire wood .Wood at that time was call faggots and in
    the midwest also.
    Queer:weird,strange.

    • RM

      Coalminer,
      Call it like it is, a spade is a spade! I don’t care for (Word Removed) or whatever you want to call them. They can leave along with the rest of the foreigners and find another place to reside.
      Notice how this country has taken a drastic nose dive since obama and his crew came to office. It is time for the people to stand up for what is right and Impeach this radical muslim. Has anyone found out just where he was really born?

      • http://none waymat

        He was born in Kenya. A while back there was a copy of his long form birth certificate on the Internet with his baby footprints on it (the smoking gun). That was the basis for the scheduled hearing in federal court in Calif. The case has been thrown out of court on the grounds (not denying the birth certificate) that the complaint wasn’t filed before he was sworn in. I’m sorry I didn’t keep it so I could insert it here for you to see.

        • American Citizen

          Some judges are idiots. What has his being sworn in got to do with where he was born? It needs to be proven once and for all. What are they afraid of?

          • http://none waymat

            Hi American Citizen,

            I expect he/she did it just because he/she (I don’t remember which, ‘she’ I think)could. It’s plain to see that if the court had verified the certificate, it would have been very damaging to the Democratic party for not doing so when Mr. Obama entered the race. It also would probably mean that Mr. Bidden would become president! I don’t know if anything or anybody can do anything about it. There should be someway to remove the judge from office. If what she did isn’t a criminal act, it should be!
            Waymat

    • http://donthaveone Beberoni

      Dont really know what your trying to say here, but God says at least one thing about this type of person you are referring to. Well first, He tells us to love our neighbor as ourself. Be kind and courteous to them. Doesnt mean I have to condone what they do, or even accept it, because I dont. But I dont hate on them, rather I pray for them and treat them as any other human being, with kind ness and dignity. For God does say, “For a man to lie with another man as he would a woman, is an abomination to the Lord.”. So when the time comes, Im sure God will straighten us all out, as we will all be held accountable for what we do. Its not my job to make them pay, He will do it. Its my job to bear witness of Him to them, that hopefully they will see the light and grasp it before they live their eternity in darkness in the lake of fire. So dont hate on them so much.

      • American Citizen

        As St. Francis said, “Preach the Gospel at all times, if necessary use words.”

  • TILLIE POPE

    The wicked flee when no one is chasing them!but the godley are bold as lions!When there is moral rot within a nation,its government topples easily; but with honest,sensible leaders there is stability.
    what i see is moral rot..in our nation…what we need is for those that are in christ JESUS, IS PRAYER

    • Jana

      Tillie, you are right. We do need to pray. We are also called to put actions to our words. Pray to see what God would have us to do then do it.

  • Fast Freddy

    There’s little doubt that this left-winger in the White-House wouldn’t sign on to that awful global climate bill, however, it would need to be ratified by our Senators. I would hope that the Senate would vote 100 to 0 NOT to ratify, and begin impeachment proceedings to rid our nation of a president willing to surrender any part of our sovereignty to a foreign council. Should our Senate fail to act on America’s behalf, then the time has come for our citizens to rise up and remove those who went along with this president, through recalls, or forcefully if necessary.

    • RM

      Fast Freddy,
      I could not agree with you more. This bunch is a disgrace to human beings let alone Legal citizens of The United States. I’m all for Impeachment now lets not wait until he has destroyed more of our government. I believe the more he does and says, the more people are finding out just what he is all about. Selling our country out to a bunch of terroists and the united nations.

  • Richard William Faith

    Once again I am offended by this website’s use of the word “reform”. One perfectly obvious thing that all Conservatives need to unaminously agree upon is to be careful when using the word “reform” in reference to anything that IS NOT REFORM. Two easy ways to make this distinction are are follows: 1) put the word “reform” within quotation marks, and 2) insert the phrase “so-called”, so that ‘reform’ goes out as ‘so-called reform’. Of the two, the second is better because the distinction is obvious whether the communication is printed or spoken. According to the dictionary, reform is defined as change FOR THE BETTER. We must always be mindful that liberals and one-worlders CALL some of their own proposals “reform” when in truth they are changes FOR THE WORSE. We must demonstrate at every turn with no exceptions that we are on to the fact that they are disingenuously promoting bad policies as so-called “reforms”.
    Over and above all this, Obama should be charged with treason if he dares to hand over our sovereignty at Copenhagen and/or anywhere else, at any time, for any reason.

    • Randy

      Quite honestly I myself really don’t care if you are offended, get over it. After all, get used to it. Before to long you won’t have that right to complain because it will fall under the Hate crimes law. Which by the way is just another way of saying “we the Government are taking your rights to FREE SPEECH away because we don’t like what you say about us. BAH HUMBUG… Pray all you want, but I think God expects more out of you, He expects YOU to put a little more effort to your words. You should know just as well as I, works without faith is DEAD. So, get on board, you just can’t set back and talk, it takes action not just words.

      • Richard William Faith

        Hi, Randy
        Infinitely less than you care about my being offended, do I care about your not caring if I’m offended; you’ve just collossally missed the point. When our own conservative websites parrot the words (e.g., “reform”) that the libs and one-worlders use in their agendas, the picture of where we stand gets confused. It looks as though we agree with the libs and one-worlders as to what reform is. My whole point is that we need to be consistent and persuasive at all times, and must never allow a single misuse of words by the adversary enter into our own vocabulary without at least “pointing at it”. I believe that if each and every time Obama and his ilk used a phrase like ‘health-care “REFORM”‘, a sufficient number of people would rumble, shout, boo and hiss at his disingenuous use of the word “reform” (likewise consider the use of the word “reform” at the top of THIS HEADLINE in reference to climate change), ultimately Obama would have to SHUT UP AND SIT DOWN, knowing that he isn’t fooling anyone. Language is the infrastructure of thought, and tampering with the meaning of words (as in using the word “reform” to denote change for the worse) has the effect of confusing the thoughts of the people. We have seen the same effect in the way some people are trying to obfuscate the meaning of the word “marriage”. Just as “marriage” used to, and still and always and forever should, mean a union of one man and one woman, “reform” should have an eternal and immutable meaning of “change FOR THE BETTER”, and whoever tries to sell an unscrupulous agenda by mislabeling it “reform” should be called on it in a New York picosecond.

  • Richard William Faith

    Back again! I would love to hear any comments on the idea that Obama’s Nobel Peace Prize was a BRIBE, PAID IN ADVANCE, TO INDUCE HIM TO SIGN THE COPENHAGEN TREATY.

    • JeffH

      …bought and paid for by George Soros!

      • JeffH

        Look up Soros history with the Netherlands.

        • Stacy

          Never would have made the connection…more reading. Dear Lord, I am so behind.

          • JeffH

            Stacy, just about anything that goes on in the WH and the Lefty Lib Dems with regard to money, America’s freedom, drugs, Bush has a connection with Soros somewhere. He is the ultimate anti-American financier in the world, not to mention an admitted Nazi collaberator against the jews in Hungary during WWII. He is a jewish Hungarian by birth.

    • Randy

      I can see how he’s won the peace prize. HE hasn’t done anything, and by that, I really mean, he hasn’t done anything. The only decisions he’s made since being in office is which political demacrat is he going to go campaign for this week and where his next round of golf is going to be. All major decision that affect you and I and being pushed aside to be taken into consideration at a later date. Worst Thing that has ever happened to this country EVER.

    • http://donthaveone Beberoni

      JeffH is correct. If you research George Soros, you will find he bought and paid for the Democratic Party a long time ago. His influence has bought this award for Obama, as it clearly was not deserved, as to deserve this award would be to say that the guy had done something to deserve it, but he hasnt done anything to even merit being in the discussion of it. It is just a political thing now. I mean come on, Jimmy Carter got one, Yassir Arafat got one. Yeah, Yassir Stinking Arafat, the original terrorist, given a Nobel Peace Prize. Are you kidding me? And someone wants me to admire them when given one of these things? Not anymore. Its a joke. George Soros bought it. I guarantee it.

  • RM

    I say Impeach obama, kick the united nations out of our country and get rid of the rest of the foreigners that have infiltrated our country for the last forty years, including all the liberals.
    No More Foreigners in our country. The Constitution stays and those that want to change it LEAVE!

  • Mickey

    Progressives started their movement years ago. The Rothschild family owns most of the worlds wealth. They put the people they want in high office to enable them to carry out their plan to control all of the worlds wealth, in the USA they the Fed,JP Morgan,Goldman Sachs & our congress as their agents. Obama picked Giethner for a reason,he was trained by a Rothschild. G.Soros also one of the team players. The radical left has to be stopped. Read R.D.Bradshaw’s work at http://www.goldseek.com ASAP. Write the Nesw Papers,local & national about the Treaty about Climate Change & be on point with your Facts.Call radio & use the internet to get the word out. To many folks are like sheep,its time to wake the flocks. May God give all the strength to save our Nation from Obama & his advisers.

    • RM

      Mickey,

      Save our Nation from obama and his advisors? You meant to say obama and his liberal socialist terroists!

  • TILIYEAH

    A WICKED RULER WILL HAVE WICKED AIDS AS HIS STAFF…PROVERBS 30;12
    WE HAVE BEEN A VERY BLESSED NATION,YET many WITHIN hate GOD, they hate SIN called sin, we have become so politically correct, we cant call it what it is, YET THE WORD OF GOD SAYS..HOMOSEXUALITY IS AN ABOMINATION. abortion is murder, but we cant call it what it is due to it being offensive to the SINNER..so what are we do?…shrink into VIOLET AND ALLOW THE LEFT TO PUSH THE USA MORE CITIES becoming SODDOM AND GOMMORA?. DONT THINK SO!, ..THE MUSLIMS..HAVE MORE MOXIE THAN SOME so-called-Christians.. THEY ARE BOLD AND FEARLESS.THEY DARE you TO TALK BAD ABOUT ala….what about our KING,LORD,JESUS CHRIST..CREATOR OF ALL THE EARTH, OUR SAVIOR…SHOULDENT WE THAT ARE CALLED BY HIS NAME ..SAY SO. AND THE ..BLANK BLANK WITH THOSE THAT HAVE MANAGED TO TAKE CHRIST OUT OF CHRISTMAS, Prayer out of schools, A MAN IN WASHINGTON SAYING TO THE WORLD, WE ARE NO LONGER A CHRISTIAN NATION!…WELL BECOUSE HE IS A MUSLIM HE HAS DRWN THE LINE ON THE SAND..HE IS STANDING FOR HIS god.–What about the the luke warm so CALLED CHRISTIANS..STAND UP get off the fence..do not serender your right to proclaim ..your faith..pray in the name that IS above all names.. his name is JESUS, HE ALONE..CAN DELIVER US FROM SIN, SICKNESS, AND CONFUSION.WE HAVE ALL sined and come short of his glory. pray for our AMERICA

    • http://donthaveone Beberoni

      And in these end times of wrong being right and right being wrong, us Christians are fair game to be chastized, prejudiced against, slandered in public, lambasted, persecuted, and soon to be beaten again. Hold on, you aint seen nothing yet. Im glad Ill be out of here when it all gets too heavy.

    • American Citizen

      You will know them by the company they keep. Americans all should have been paying attention during the campaigns when it was brought out who Obama’s associates were and are. Character does count.

  • RAY ALLEN

    Just three words that most Americans have forgoten

    it is written

    • http://donthaveone Beberoni

      Thank you sir, I for one appreciate it, and understand it.

    • Curtis S

      No it’s “must see TV”.

  • chris

    must watch

  • James Corbin

    Just what I have been saying!! One world government, one world bank and one world religion. ( Muslim ) This is where Obama is taking us!
    Obama, made the statement—-The US isn’t a christain nation anymore!

  • James Corbin

    When is the treaty suppose to be signed? Seems like I heard somebody say December or January!

  • Robert Withall

    Australia is in the same boat as our leftist nut cases now in government propose to sign away our sovereignty.
    It appears 7 billion of our hard earned money would be taken and given to third world communist counties,especially China every year and this is only the start.
    This is a very evil wind that blows through the corridors of power in our land and is turning our politicians into the worst of traitors.

  • James Corbin

    Angelo, I’m with you!—–But what can we do?

    DENNISO, IT’S CLOSER NOW THAN IT WAS!!!

  • JeffH

    Just thought I would offer this for all of you good Americans to read.

    Virginia Democrat Jim Moran – If you are against bringing Gitmo scum to New York, you are un-american
    I’ll say one thing for Democrats. They have sure cornered the market on un-american “slurs” at Americans who disagree with them. For those who don’t know who Jim Moran is, he is a congressman from Virginia’s 8th district. According to TPM:

    “They see this as an opportunity to demagogue,” he said. “They will seize on any opportunity to do that, and that means they’ll even take a stand that’s un-American.”

    “It’s un-American to hold anyone indefinitely without trial,” Moran added. “It’s against our principles as a nation.”

    Kinda like when Steny Hoyer and Nancy Pelosi called people who disagree with government’s takeover of healthcare un-american too.

    Of course Moran simply uses the Republican cop out, but there are plenty of non-Republicans who are opposed to this too. There is also the family of Daniel Pearl. Daniel Pearl you might sadly remember was murdered and beheaded by none other than Khalid Sheikh Mohammed. They are opposed to bringing these terrorist scum to New York too. Am I to assume they are un-american too?

    • JeffH
    • Curtis S

      You Americans go marching into Afghanistan, take prisoners and then ignore the Geneva Conventions. You make up the rules as you go along and hold these prisoners in a foreign country. When you finally get around to actually giving these prisoners their due process, something you Americans are so proud of, you all get your panties in a knot because your current president has the balls to man-up. Yes, give these muslim jihadists their day in court and then give them the rest of their lives in jail. YOU caught ‘em YOU jail ‘em. When you play the role of the world’s policeman, you gotta be the jailer too. When you start something you should finish it.

      • JeffH

        Curtis S, you’re obviously not an American. We should cut off their heads at GITMO and toss them into a septic tank and never allow the maggots to touch American soil.
        They don’t deserve “due process”. Did they give their victims “due process”? Nope!

        • Curtis S

          Two wrongs? That’s just revenge, that’s not the American way.

          • American Citizen

            Those at Gitmo were captured on the battlefield, thus subject to the military courts. They are not criminals entitled to our American system of justice.

          • JeffH

            Tell that to the parents whose son had his head chopped off because he was an American. An eye for an eye!

        • Stacy

          JeffH I’m not sure you aren’t on to something here. May have been better to have summarily executed them in the field and forgo the hassle of detaining them.

          Curtis Quite frankly I don’t put much stock in the comments and accusations of most people concerning our country. I don’t believe we were being the world’s police when we went to Afghanistan. They were harboring people who clearly declared war on us…not just 9/11 but many years before, in many countries and on many occasions. If anything we had been way too tolerant of these cockroaches and look where it got us. Political correctness is a scourge in this country or any country for that matter. Nor do I believe that we should be the world’s police…let these countries do what they want until they come after us then exterminate them without mercy. It wouldn’t be long until we have a lovely ice skating rink over Iran, and South Korea wouldn’t miss North Korea one bit. Rather than reducing the population of the world by working Americans to death in order to ply enemies of our country with monetary reasons to behave we need to get a set of huevos, keep our money and deal with what comes. An important principle is that one should never negotiate with terrorists…in the end they do exactly what they said they wouldn’t and usually use our American taxpayer money to fund their activities. I don’t wish to treat any one badly but I do want our government to change the way they do business. I’m tired of pandering to the whims of the insane and the foolish. It has not benefitted us and I don’t see that changing. Let these countries who hate us take care of their own but the problem is that they don’t. The governments are so oppresive and corrupt (we here in America have NOT cornered the market on corruption) that their citizens don’t have a chance. If we stay out of the mayhem we are criticized and if we help we are criticized. Seems we should do what we think is right based on some solid guiding principles and move on. Sometimes that means we don’t help…in fact, I ventue a guess that most of the time we would not because to help means we have to do the kinds of things we have been and that clearly is not a workable deal for us. I wonder what we Americans could do with the billions and billions we send abroad every year? Money to bribe rogue nations like N. Korea, money paid into Middle East coffers, money to the Mexican government to subsidize their country (all so they can pour over our borders and suck our welfare system and healthcare system), on and on etc. Money that should be staying in the pockets of Americans who work for it. I can tell you that we would see many of our own domestic issues resolve very quickly. I am of the opinion that if we can’t pay our own way and take care of our own then we need to stay home and keep our money here as well. Probably sounds harsh to some but I am so over being politically correct. We Americans seem to be the only ones playing by those rules anymore…look where it got us.

          • JeffH

            I am of the opinion that if we can’t pay our own way and take care of our own then we need to stay home and keep our money here as well. Probably sounds harsh to some but I am so over being politically correct.

            Stacy, I second that motion.

          • Stacy

            Thanks Jeff :)

          • DaveH

            Me too.

      • Jana

        Curtis, you foreigners just don’t get it.

        • Curtis S

          What is there to get?

          • Jana

            You made my point. If you were a proud citizen of this country you wouldn’t even have to ask.

    • http://donthaveone Beberoni

      Dick Durbin wants to bring them all to a closed up jail in Illinois I believe. He says it is a much needed economic thing for this area. I think what he is saying, is I need more votes next election, and these people that would get jobs at this jail would be dumb enough to vote for me, even though Im bringing all these terrorists here to roost in Illinois. But then again, I would say these terrorist are all liberals, so they will fit right in there in Illinois.

      • American Citizen

        He’s worshiping the money god, not what’s in the best interest of this country.

      • Jana

        I heard Carter talking the other day and he said that what people don’t realize is that these prisoners throw feces all over the guards on a daily basis, as well as spit on them. The guards are not allowed to retaliate in any way. They just go clean up and change their uniforms. I am really sure the people of Illinois will put up with this nonsense. There is no amount of money that would entice me to work under those conditions, and I highly suspect they will have a very high turnover.

      • American Citizen

        If it happens, I hope they get the same conditions as all the other prisoners do there and not the special treatment they get at Gitmo.

      • Claire

        Hey–I shouldn’t say where I am from but it is Illinois and we are not all Liberals. Not all of us voted for Durbin and I personally do not appreciate being categorized as a Liberal or Terrorist. A lot of us are protesting the idea of the terrorists being brought to Illinois but it will no doubt fall on deaf ears. I am well aware that Illinois is known to be a corrupt state. Do I feel good about it? Hell no. So get off my back and go after the crooks, not people like me that do their best to live a good decent life.

  • http://www.stanelaine.com Stan

    Thanks DaveH,
    More in depth reading! I’m presently attempting a second read of “The Creature from Jekyll Island”. Primarily because the author, G.Edward Griffin, covers the entire spectum of issues that we (everyone) are discussing in these comments, more thoroughly in one book than most. It would be well complimented to read “Battle for the Mind” by Tim LaHaye and the Bible…both dated, but, the principles are timeless! The ‘knack’ is, in ‘connecting’ them through information overlap contained in their pages! You get an almost complete political, historical and scriptual perspective from these three books, and, as the pieces of the jigsaw begin to fall into place, we begin to see a clearer picture of the underlying problems and causes. We learn the (what) is really happening and the (who) is causing it and the (why)they are causing it. Again, it is a great deal of research, but well worth the effort. If there is a short cut, I would appreciate any feedback. Frankly, I’d rather be watching ‘CSI’ or ‘House’!!!!!…but we have 306 million reasons for being more concerned about the future of our country!

  • RayD

    I don’t believe we humans cause climate change one bit, it’s all fake.
    Obama is one of the worst human beings on this planet. His goal is to turn us into a Socialisim state or worse. The Republicans are almost as bad as the Demos.
    One other thing that really makes me sad is the medical stuff that’s placed on this and other sites. A cure for cancer of all kinds and I think it’s all bunk. I have a wife with stage 4 lung cancer and we have tried sme of these so called cures and it’s all crap. That’s a horrible thing to do to a person, giving them hope that is bald face lies. If there is someone out there including Bob Livingston can prove this stuff really works as advertised please prove it in a way someone can beleive or quit printing these lies.

    • American Citizen

      I agree with you on those quack cures. I don’t know of a single cancer patients who has been cured using them. But I do know of patients who are either in remission or have been cured with standard treatments. I am a survivor, living with cancer for 12 nears now. It’s basically under control, but I am not cured. I just thank God for every day I get. I am sorry your wife has lung cancer as it and liver cancer are almost considered incurable. How long ago was she diagnosed? What is her first name – I’ll put her on our prayer line.

    • http://donthaveone Beberoni

      First of all, I feel for you and your wife. Cancer is a bad ugly thing. My prayers are with you. Now to my point. I fully believe that there is a cure for cancer, but we will never know it. You see, it has become such big business, raising money for cancer research and fighting cancer, that so many people are making big bucks doing this, that it literally has become a billion dollar business. No one in it, at least at the upper echelon, want to shut it down. Its not in their best monetary interests. I fully believe they have the technology to stop it, but never will, because it would mean shutting down all those jobs, and they arent about to do it. I lost my sister to cancer, and she felt the same way I do. Its just gotten to be to big of a business under the mask of fighting it.

      • American Citizen

        Bebe, if you don’t have cancer, you don’t know what it’s all about. I have had nothing but concerned doctors, and treatments and medications that have kept me going for 12 years, not to mention the original surgery to remove the tumor.
        A good attitude, nutrition and faith also play a part. They don’t know as yet what causes cancer. if they did, they could cure it. Each of us is an individual as to how our bodies respond to treatment. Some are fortunate enough to go into remission or be cured. Barbara Padilla, who took second in America’s Got Talent competition, is a ten year survivor. I know one man here who is considered cured and others who are in remission. Once you have cancer, you are never really done with it.

  • Curt

    You are all insane.

    • American Citizen

      Apparently you are not good at reading the signs of the times.

    • DaveH

      Duh! Let me guess Curt. You’re a Liberal?

      • DaveH

        It must be painful to know what’s best for everyone else just to have us stubbornly resist your help.

    • Joe H.

      Curt,
      I wish I knew everything like you!!!! Of course then I’d be a libber and hate myself so I guess it’s a fair trade-off!!!

    • http://donthaveone Beberoni

      What, are you one of those guys that believe by it getting warmer things get colder? Unbelievable.

  • James Corbin

    JOHNLARRY, YOU ARE EXACTLY RIGHT!!!! HE WANTS TO GET THE US DOWN SO HE CAN BECOME RULER! IF HE GETS ALL THE CONTROL, WE PROBABLY WON’T GET TO VOTE!! I THINK YOU PEOPLE KNOW WHAT I MEAN!!

  • American Citizen

    It seems that die-hard Democrats and Liberals refuse to see what Obama and his gang of cohorts are doing to this country. They don’t want to admit that they, too, will suffer just as the rest of us will (and already are).

    • Stacy

      Come on now! You mean to tell us that those who support the policies of the extreme left won’t be gifted with Divine protection by their Messiah? And their votes won’t buy them a pass for the suffering and loss that is surely going to come as a result of what the puppets of destruction are doing? That just doesn’t seem fair! I just knew that their loyalty would pay off for them when the time comes. What a disappointment to know they won’t get a front-of-the-line pass in the bread line or a supernatural shield when the shooting starts as I thought surely their messiah was more honorable than to let his sheeple die unjustly. Wonder if they will get more choices and some favors if the libs succeed in taking over healthcare. It seems those supporting these atrocious policies have not thought out their positions very well. If I die for what I believe at least I know I’ve not sold my soul.

    • http://donthaveone Beberoni

      Oh, they do see it. And they are allready starting to turn. Stay tuned, and you will see them throw him directly under the bus, coming soon to a theatre near you.

      • American Citizen

        I can’t wait to see that movie.

  • Mike

    Curtis doesn’t understand that these terorists do not belong to any official army. Heck, they don’t even fight for any particular country or group of countries. They are not covered by the Geneva convention. What ignorance!!!! Spies, and terrorists, do not get protection of that particular international agreement because they are not covered by it. It really is that simple, Curtis!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • Curtis S

      You’re funny. It’s the Geneva Conventions, it’s a plural word because there are actually four of them. It’s also pretty obvious that you Mike and most Americans have never read them. Look them up for yourself and find out what ignorance truly is. I don’t expect an apology, but I do expect that you educate yourself. Oh, and go easy on the exclamation points, over-using them doesn’t suddenly make you smart or interesting.

      • JeffH

        Educate? Ignorance? I’ve heard a few others use those words quite often. Sounds like an Obummer lefty lib double speak to me.

        • Curtis S

          Hey smart guy, is that all you got? Everytime you can’t intelligently support an argument you start your “nyah nyah you must be liberal” routine. When you say that do you stick your fingers in your ears too? That’s what children do when they’re intellectually exhausted, they stick their little fingers in they’re little ears so they can’t hear anymore. JeffH don’t you remember when you were posting as DaveH that you so cleverly deduced that I’m not an American? Don’t you Siamese twins talk to each other? If I’m not American (or Kenyan) I couldn’t have voted for Obama. So you’ll have to exercise that tiny muscle between your ears and come-up with something better than “lefty-lib doublespeak”.

          • Jana

            Ewww, Curtis, from that tirade we can all tell that the truth sure hurts.
            You may be able to out talk some, but it doesn’t make you right.

          • JeffH

            CurtiS, hit a nerve did I? Get your head out of your assets and join the real world for a change. As usual, you highly educated LEFTY LIBS try to put yourselves above everyone you ridicule. Bet you don’t talk to your friends that way. Oops! Might be that you don’t have any friends at all except the ones that are dancing in your head.

          • Joe H.

            Curtis,
            If everything that ACORN is guilty of comes out, then you not being a citizen wouldn’t preclude you from voting at all.

          • http://donthaveone Beberoni

            Does S mean from Syria? Because the things you say do not sound like they come from someone in America, that loves America. No sir, they do not. And the Geneva Convention rules? Why is it that only the United States is supposed to pay attention to them? Why? Please, explain away.

          • DaveH

            Curtis,
            You sure sound like one of our Liberals, who in lieu of facts pursue personal attacks.

          • JeffH

            Curtis S says: JeffH don’t you remember when you were posting as DaveH that you so cleverly deduced that I’m not an American?
            Duh! Earth to Curtis S? I can’t seem to recall ever posting as anybody but myself. You have more than likely gotten confused by not remembering your own alternate posts. Those lies always come back on a bad memory.

          • Jana

            He sounded like a spoiled little boy. Maybe he will pick up his toys and go home, and stay there.

  • James Corbin
    • DaveH

      Good post James. This sure didn’t come from his campaign speeches. We were all assured back then that he wasn’t close to Muslims.

  • James Corbin

    Ray, I’m with you—I don’t think climit change exist!

    • American Citizen

      The administration is trying to say there is a consensus of scientists who say global warming is for real. A reputable group of scientists say there is no such thing as a consensus. They say global warming is a hoax based on a computer model put out by the UN. They also say we are actually in a cooling period and the computer models do not take into account any changes that don’t coincide with their predictions. These scientists have even written letters to our Congresspeople explaining all this and telling them not to vote for the bill. Do we think they will listen? I don’t think so. At least the Dems won’t.

      • JeffH

        For every scientist that supports the theory on global warming, there are 15 that refute it.

        • http://mlay001@hughes.net gary

          These same scientist don’t believe in evolution, god forbid you can’t suck up everything the planet has to offer for your own immediate greedy indulgence. who cares what left for your grandchildren

          • American Citizen

            These are geological scientists that do actual research and do not rely on computer models. I trust them more than I do the global warming ones. This has been a cool year. I think they’re right. As for evolution, there is not clear evidence we are descended from apes. They have never found a “missing link.” They do agree there is evolution within a species, size, weight, etc. That’s due to climate factors and diet. Man is a good example.

    • http://donthaveone Beberoni

      If one actually looks into it, they will find that these weather cycles are cyclical. There are warmer times, and there are colder times. It goes up and it goes down, and it always has, and it always will. And those who are insistant about this global warming, if you look into them, they have some agenda where if they can get everyone to buy into this as real, they stand to make quite a bit of cash. Sorry, I dont buy into this snake oil they are selling. No no, not a bit.

      • American Citizen

        They tried to blame the terrible hurricanes the past few years on global warming. What happened to this year? How many hurricanes did we have? Where was the global warming?

        You’re right, the weather has always been cyclical. Us old folks can tell you that.

  • James Corbin

    Curtis, /These people don’t play by the rules. They want to kill americans. They are the heartless people—NO COMPASSION!

    Curtis, If Obama can pray to Allah (A moon god) Why can’t we pray to our Jesus? If you think he isn’t a muslim go look at the link on my posting.-

    • American Citizen

      Obama’s early years were lived as a Muslim. I don’t think he has forgotten that. What happens to us in our early years tends to stick with us whether we want it to or not. We can change, but I really don’t think Obama has. If you listen closely to what he says, it comes out.

    • Curtis S

      That’s the tough thing about being a cop, you have to play by the rules even though the bad guys don’t. The US signed the Geneva Conventions and agreed to live up to them, too bad the Taliban didn’t. But when you play policeman to the world that’s what you signed-up for. If you don’t abide by those rules you’re disrespecting your brave fighting men and women and they deserve better.

      • American Citizen

        The terrorists do not fight for a regular army, thus not subject to the Geneva Conventions. They do not fight for their country, only for their religious views. That’s a big difference.

    • http://donthaveone Beberoni

      Let me add, that even if their Allah, is the same as God, their prayers are going on deaf ear, as it is written, “He who has the Son, has the Father. He who doesnt not have the Son, does not have the Father.” So if they dont have Jesus Christ, theyve basically got nothing. He came to build us a bridge to God. Only through his name can one be saved. They are missing the boat.

  • http://www.stanelaine.com Stan

    Stan says,
    Lord Christopher Monckton has challenged Al Gore, if he has the guts, to discuss the validity of Global Warming claims on National Television. Monckton says he will disprove the environmentalists theories and prove and support his case with documented evidence from scientists that are not on the environmentalist agenda!Or payroll!
    Meanwhile, thousands of acres of farmland in the San Joaquin Valley in California have been turned into a parched wasteland because the environmentalists have shut down the irrigation pumps that supplied the water to these farms…..why? to protect fish!The results are 60,000 farm workers out of work and going bankrupt and fruit and vegetable price increases, as we are forced to import from other countries. Just one example of environmentalist insanity…Fish over people! Those folks who have done some research know that they are not crazy, and, once one understands their agenda, it all begins to make sense. Look up ‘Unfiltered News’and you will find listed overwhelming evidence that Al Gore is full of verbal effluvium.

    • Richard William Faith

      Brilliant, Stan!
      You’ve put the words “agenda” and “payroll” right next to each other, right where they logically belong. It seems to me you’ve come up with a formula or natural law that unfailingly characterizes politics in general:
      Agenda = payroll = agenda = payroll = agenda, …
      In politics these two terms are so nearly synonymous that they are virtually interchangeable. So much for the climate-change quacks.

      • Grant S.

        Yeah, but guys, what makes more sense, A or B?

        (A) Powerful, cash-soaked, multi-national (i.e. no longer operating in America’s best interests) are supporting an agenda to prohibit any sort of regulation which might protect the long term future of America’s natural assets. They do this in order to protect and increase their profits, which, as per their corporate charter, they are *required* to do.

        ..or…

        (B) Al Gore, Sean Penn, Michael Moore, et al are “out to destroy” America and our “way of life”.

        • American Citizen

          You left out George Soros, Nancy Pelosi, Barack Hussein Obama, liberals, et al.

          • Grant S.

            Right…and I’m sure we could add 1,000′s more to the list. But you failed to address the actual A/B question, instead diverting to a red herring with some names that always manage to stir up a debate (not necessarily addressing anything of relevance…thank you for proving this last point).

    • http://donthaveone Beberoni

      Al Gore is full of something, and its not truth and honor and goodness.

      • American Citizen

        He needs to stop putting out that CO2 he claims is destroying the climate.

  • Keith H

    I have been saying all along, we don’t have a two party system, Bush screwed the american people, and Obama is doing the same thing.He’s doing what the elites told him to do, bring in the New World Order,(globle goverment). I remember Bill Clinton talked about he wanted a new world order, and the first Bush gave a new world order speech back in 1991,apparently they have been planning this for a long time,Obama is just helping the elites accomplish it. John F Kennedy tried to shut down the federal reserve .Because the european banksters own the federal reserve, Obama’s doing the opposite by giving the federal reserve more power.It’s clear Obama’s in bed with them.

    • noreen cerino

      I agree….there is no 2 party system….it’s one party….the greed and power party. Many of you don’t even realize you probably agree on many things; you’re to busy arguing partinsanship.
      If people can’t or won’t see how their freedom is being diminished daily, all I can say is “Wait….you ain’t seen nothin’ yet!” As long as you allow government, whose sole purpose is to protect it’s borders {what a joke} and to protect it’s citzens from foreign invaders, to dictate what you can and cannot do in very aspect of your life, things will only get worse. Our country gained it’s fredom from British rule because a bunch of every day people decided they weren’t going to take it anymore. And, in writing our constitution, tried to assure it wouldn’t happen again.
      Stop following the party line….whatever it may be…..and learn to think for yourself. Small things can have big reprecussions. Like debit cards….just one step from a cashless society. Some feel there’s nothing wrong with that….as long as you believe the “government” has a right to know where you spend every penny. Personaly, I believe it’s none of their business. The OWO has been on the agenda for longer than most would care to believe, and probably would have been in place already. On thing they never counted on was the PC. They never thought computers {once they came into existance} would ever be small enough or cheap enough for most people to have in their homes. With the advent of the internet secrets became harder to keep…..anyone with the desire to educate themself about what is truly happening in our world can do so. The majority of Americans don’t even know the IRS was created by the Federal Reserve {a privare, not government institution} to collect interest on the national debt. All that money in income taxes that many people believe goes to benefit the American people and our country’s infrastructure goes straight to the Federal Reserve. They are headquartered in Puerto Rico. Oh, and they were only ratified by two states…..not to mention that every time you get something from the IRS marked Dept of The Treasury, that’s for sure one count of mail fraud, at least. They are however, very effective….because they use fear and intimidation on people. This from an organization that really has no right to exist. Maybe it’s time we gave a little more thought to how our forefathers chose to deal with similar tyrrany.
      I love my country, but I am sick and tired of being called a racist and bigot if I feel immigrants should enter the country legally instead of pouring over our borders and taking advantage of all he “free entitlement” programs that I, as a citizen, am not eligible for. Not that I would use them anyway. I don’t believe it is the job of my government to take care of me. For those truly in need, I believe we must as a people and a nation, reach out and give one another a hand. I believe Americans are the most giving and charitable people in the world. That doesn’t mean you are entitled to sit on your ass and get a check every month. 19 year old crack heads and alcoholics should not be hanging out collecting a social security check every month bcause they have an illness. You are welcome to your addiction, if that is your choice…..don’t ask me to pay for it.
      I am also an uninsured American…….if I get sick I go to the doctor and pay for it myself. Should something catostrophic happen, I will deal with it on my own, probably in a holistic way most insurance would not cover anyway. It is not the government’s job to tell me I must have insurance or else the IRS will levy a fine on me and if I don’t pay I could go to jail for 5 years. And how did the IRS get into our health care anyway……there’s that intimidation factor working again.
      I was born a free human being of the planet earth and I plan to die that way. I refuse to live under a dictatorship where government can determine every aspect of my life. Make no mistake…..if that day isn’t here yet, it will be soon if the people of this great country allow all their freedoms to be taken away one by one. Dissent and protest are not the same thing as anarchy…..regardless of what some in government and the media would like to have us believe. It wasn’t that long ago that it united a nation to stop a war.

  • jim

    Hey folks, if anybody thinks this is hogwash, leave now for Canada or Great Britian. The U.S. has a new proposed currency kind of like the euro it’s the AMERO. NO joke. Mexico has a weigh station for their trucks in Kansas. The Teamsters support amnesty for illegal aliens, between 12 and 20 million and climbing. Just what did the last amnesty do for the U.S.??

    • Stacy

      The Amero has been on the table for a few years…I think pretty much since NAFTA, probably before but I was first aware of it back then. The link between the unions and Obama has been established so I am not astounded by your statement since Obama is in bed with the unions and he seems to think that legitimizing those who ignore our laws is a good thing. But I am beginning to wonder if we even have a working legal system anymore as it seems to have been completely whored out but so are all the politicians. So perhaps what we have is an illusion or a delusion depending on one’s perspective. Sadly, what the current administration is doing probably has to do with destroying American sovreignty and the American economy to further the formation of the NorthAmerican Union. An absurdity if I’ve ever encountered one.

      • Grant S.

        The only thing absurd, Stacy, is the fact that your paranoia has gotten so out of control, you may actual believe what you’re writing.

        • JeffH

          GrantS, BlueMole and duh!nniso might have all been educated by the marxist prophet Alinsky. You people are just typical liberal hacks, lackeys that can’t do anything but ridicule others you don’t agree with. To me, you are TROLLS! Get on Newsvine, they’ll love you over there. They don’t even allow guns on that site.

          • BlueMole

            JeffH, I’m as Marxist as you are liberal. A box of hair is smarter than you. Call me a troll; what you think I’ll go cry to mama?.

            Flip me another burger, and enjoy your next stupid teabag party. Rush, Beck, and the mega-millions they makes off morons like you, are soooo proud.

          • http://donthaveone Beberoni

            Hey Jeff, definately add Blue Mole to the troll brigade. Dude fits right in with them. Maybe he could marry Eyes, and they could be the Blue Eyed Mole.

          • JeffH

            BlueMole, sorry, I’m retired collecting my earned SS and Medicare Advantage from my investment in the government. Besides, it’s not good to feed dogs human food…wouldn’t want you to keel over and die.

            Berboni, you are corret.

          • JeffH

            Oh BlueMole, your mama was telling me just last night what a whiner you realy are.

          • Grant S.

            Dude…let’s not talk education. I’ll run circles around you: turbo-charged, a**-whooping CIRCLES. I was educated at an ivy league university, speak 6 languages other than English, have started two companies of my own…just don’t even go there. Call it whatever you want–but I was fortunate to be exposed to a wide spectrum of ideas and have come to certain conclusions surrounding politics and economic systems, which I am very open to debating, learning new ideas from others, and coming to a better understanding of the world.

        • DaveH

          More personal attacks in lieu of the facts.
          You Liberals are going to need to do more homework and come up with more sweet sounding lies, so you don’t have to spend so much time attacking people personally.

        • American Citizen

          Ignore the warnings and suffer the consequences.

  • RayD

    To: American Citizen
    I appreciate your response. My wife Dorothy found out she had stage 3 lung cancer on her birthday June 4th,2007. She is now at stage 4 but doing pretty good. She also has sugar diabetes and COPD. We have been married for 52 years last Sept. 17th. I just wish I could trade places with her, which I would do in a heartbeat. Once again, Thank you for your response and accept all the prayers we can get.

    Ray

    • American Citizen

      She’ll be on our prayer line yet tonight.

      We have been married 53 years and we both have health problems, but every day is precious. We have 7 children, 17 grandchildren and one great grandson. We always look forward to seeing all of them. We’ll all be together for Thanksgiving except for one grandson and one son. One lives in Georgia and the other in Rhode Island. But we’ll see them during the Christmas holidays.

    • Joe H.

      Ray,
      God bless you and your wife. I will also put her in my prayers. Keep the faith!!!

    • JeffH

      Only the best wishes for you and your wife. God Bless.

    • Curtis S

      Hey Mr. RayD; Enjoy every day and here’s to Dorothy and you celebrating anniversary number 53 on 17 September 2010!

    • Jana

      Ray, you and Dorothy will both be in my prayers. I know its hard to see your loved one in bad health.
      American C. I will be praying for you and your wife too.
      Blessings on all of you.

    • David Hall

      RAYd, MY HEART AND PRAYS, GO OUT FOR YOU AND YOUR WIFE. SIR, MY WIFE AND I, TRULLY UNDERSTAND WHAT YA’LL ARE GOING THROUGH. MY WIFE, HAS CANCER IN HER LIVER, SPEEN, AND LUNG. DOCTOR, SAID SHE MAY GET TO ENJOY, THANKSGIVEN AND CHRISTMAS, MAYBE. I JUST DON’T BELIEVE IT. ANYWAY, I HOPE AND PRAY IN THE BLESSED NAME OF JESUS, FOR A MIRACLE IN YOU & YOUR WIFES’ LIVES.
      SINCERELY, DAVID HALL

      • Joe H.

        David Hall,
        May God Bless your wife and surprise you this Christmas!!!!

    • http://donthaveone Beberoni

      God bless you both Ray. I too will pray for the both of you.

  • Loves God

    Obama is an evil man and hell bent on bringing this wonderful country of ours down to the point of destruction. For the first time in my adult life I could not bring myself to vote – I couldn’t even pick the lesser of 2 evils. There is an underground movement towards the one world order and the men who will achieve this goal have been strategically put in place. Hold on people – and your belief in God for He is allowing this to happen as a punishment for His laws that are continually being broken………..adultry, perversions, impurity, murder of our unborn, greed, satan worship etc. etc. etc.

    • El Chichon’

      Loves God,
      I couldn’t agree with you more. We are all about to give an account for the putrid iniquities of this nation as a people. Judgement is knocking at our door. He who loves the world is an enemy of God. There are many anti-Christs in our congress and Obamas cabinet, Obama just happens to be the head of the snake. Satan is the father of all lies, don’t forget that. All of the Bushs, Clintons,and Obama and his cabinet along with the mega-rich like Oprah Winfrey and the like are all behind this underworld push for the one world government. The names of these underworld organizations are the Bilderberg group, the Tri-Lateral Comission, and whoever is in control of the Federal Reserve. Keep your lamps trimmed and burning and don’t hide your lamp under a bushel. It is time to do what we can to bring all that we can into the fold of Christ. Our desire determines our dedication. God be with you.

      • http://PersonalLiberty Jeffrey Barker

        Does any of this surprise you? It shouldn’t. It was all foretold. Every prediction to this date has come to pass. What makes man think that the rest will not? They will. Before time began, before the earth and the heavens where ever created. The Lord YOUR God, already knew every word that would be uttered by man. Who would except Him, and who would not. You can not surprise God. God never had a beginning, He always was and will always be. God created time. Some of you mock and say “Where is this Jesus, You claim He is coming soon and have been saying that for 2000 years.” Two thousand years is but a puff of smoke to the Lord. When He is ready, then He will come. When He does, He will remove His church (true Christians) to meet Him in the sky. (Rapture). Then people, you will have your anti-christ, your one world government, Your Hell on earth. And you people who accept Jesus after the rapture, and refuse the mark, will have to go into hiding. And if found, you will be executed. Those who except the mark, are dammed and without remedy. It would behoove you to get right with the Lord Jesus Christ now and not go through the end times. Then Jesus will come again (2nd coming) and rule with an iron rod and there will be peace on earth for 1000 years. When the thousand years have expired, Satan will be released from his prison and will go out to deceive the nations which are in the four corners of the earth, Gog and Ma-gog, to gather them together to battle, whose number is as the sand of the sea. (Final battle) And fire came down from God out of heaven and devoured them.

        Read it for your self’s. As you can also see, we might as well bring our troops home, their not going to change anything anyway. They are dying for nothing.

        • http://donthaveone Beberoni

          I agree with everything you said, until the last paragraph. The troops are not dying for nothing. They are dying for trying to make a good difference in this world. As it is written, “Man has no greater glory than to lay down his life for another”. These guys are trying to quench this enemy that seeks to kill and destroy each and every one of us. Their lives are not in vain. They are laying down their life for me, for you, and others in this thread, that we may be free and sit here on our butts and write this posts. Do not disrespect them like that. Some gave all, and achieved the greatest glory a man may receive, by laying down his life for another. It is written.

      • Grant S.

        “He who loves the world is an enemy of God.” What exactly does that mean? Didn’t god create the world?

        • http://donthaveone Beberoni

          There is a dividing line here. There are things that are from God, and there are things that are from man – The World. Like blessings are from God. Money is from the world. Helping someone is from God. Taking from someone is from the world. Sacrificing what you wanted for the sake of another is from God. Taking what someone worked hard for away from them is from the world. Otherwords, dont be all entrapped by all that glitters is gold. Dont spend your life seeking money, cars, women, fame and glory. That is the ways of the world. And it is written, “there is a way to a man that seems right, and it is the way of death”. Rather, seek the Kingdom of God first, and He will give you these things. Too many people waste their whole life chasing the world and the things it in. They accumulate them, then they die and leave them for someone else to enjoy. What a waste of time. But thats what it means.

        • Jana

          Anything you love more than God, becomes your God. If we love the Lord our God, of course we are going to love the things in this world too. Actually when we put God first we have a better understanding of the things of this world. That is why Christians say they are in the world, but they are not of the world, or we are not worldly people. We don’t enjoy living wildly, nor doing drugs, nor partying and drinking. We don’t need those things to be happy.

        • American Citizen

          IF you put God first in your life, all the rest is icing. He is the only God that should be in our lives. He is a jealous God, He wants our love. It’s in the 10 Commandments.

          • Grant S.

            Beberoni, Jana, and American Citizen: This from the crowd who I have to assume supports unbridled, “greed is good”, “pull yourself up by your bootstraps, you deserve what you get” capitalism. Talk about hypocrisy. How do you explain Joel Osteen?

      • BlueMole

        Dude! Don’t go outside. the squirrels ar gathering nuts

        • JeffH

          At least he’s got a pair to give.

  • http://mlay001@hughes.net gary

    Is there any lie you won’t tell when profits are involved. Your god is green and your heart is greedy

    • Jana

      Gary your god may be whatever you want green, pink, or blue. But you don’t have to mock those of us who know the truth.

      • BlueMole

        we only mock morons like you.

        • Joe H.

          Bluemole,
          That couldn’t be true!!! If you picked on morons you wouldn’t be able to post here at all!!! You would be too busy picking on yourself!!!!

        • American Citizen

          I truly feel sorry for nonbelievers as they don’t know what they’re missing. They have a mistaken notion of God, Who He really is and what He can do for us. If I didn’t have Him in my life, I don’t think I’d have survived this long. He has been my rock on Whom I know I can depend. I have had so many experiences of Him and still do. God is love.

    • DaveH

      Oh, Gary, but you aren’t greedy for wanting to share other peoples’ hard earned money. I guess Thief is a better word for your condition.

  • http://.personalliberty.com Dave

    You people have short or convenient memories. I recall that the former Bushes bowed and held hands with Saudi princes

    • Jana

      Yes, and I just saw Obama bow to another man AGAIN.

      • BlueMole

        So what! It’s Japanese custom. I have been to Japan. Everybody bows to everybody all the time. It;s like shaking hands (and doesn’t spread H1N1). Your Lord, God, King, Born=Again Savior GW Bush was all kissy with the Saudi “king” and you wingnuts loved it. Talk about spreading germs. Yuck!!

        • coal miner

          Blue Mole,

          Don’t forget George Senior was so tramatised,that he fainted and actully puke on the Japanese.Primeminster.It was disgusting to see Lee Icoca and George W.BushSr. crawling arround,like maggots, butt kissing the Japanese.I don’t think its the libereals giving the country away,its the conservatives selling the country right out from under us.They also made deals with communist China.This time its not Butt kissing,it is performing a much worse act.Lenin was right when he said:
          the communist will have enough rope to hang us with.We will sell them the rope.

          • BlueMole

            You got that right!

        • Jana

          BM
          Oh yes, it is such a Japanese custom that they wouldn’t even show it in their news features as your master Obama did it wrong. Not only embarrassed himself, but embarrassed the Japanese.

  • Claire

    Dave—you are so right!!! Nixon also bowed!!! I remember it!! But I do have to admit–I would not bow to any of them. I guess I may be more rebellious, and it would be a cold day in you no where before I bow. But then again, China owns us, thanks to previous administrations. Perhaps some of you have forgotten this fact?
    To RayD–my heart goes out to you and your wife. I wish you both the very best. I understand what you are going through. I lost my oldest sister 2 years ago–she had to quit work because of illness-and when she quit she lost her hospitalization that she had at work. SHE COULD NOT GET ANY HEALTH INSURANCE because she had pre-existing conditions. It was awful. Our whole family took care of her. These damn insurance companies are disgusting and we have to thank the democrat and republican politicians for this. The insurance companies have most of them in their back pocket. I could scream about the unfairness of this mess and what these politicians have done to us. It should be reported what politicans received campaign money from the insurance companies. It should be published for all to see.

    • DaveH

      So what do you suggest Claire? I have always felt that insurance was a waste of money myself, so I don’t purchase it. And I have worked ill most of my working life. My illness is nobody else’s fault and I don’t expect anybody else to pay for it.
      Insurance companies are there to make a profit. That profit motive drives them to efficiencies that we would not see from disinterested Government officials with protected jobs.
      Medical costs are too high as a result of Government intrusion into the Health Care business. If we want to get the costs down we need to get the Government out of it.
      Read this article to learn how:
      http://mises.org/freemarket_detail.aspx?control=279

      • Grant S.

        DaveH: you write “Insurance companies are there to make a profit. That profit motive drives them to efficiencies that we would not see from disinterested Government officials with protected jobs.” If this were even remotely true, how can you explain almost EVERY OTHER industrialized nation’s single payer or centralized insurance system being infinitely more efficient than our fractured, illogical, archaic, entirely-for-profit-at-the-expense-of-patient-care health insurance landscape?

        • Curtis S

          Grant I believe the standard response to your question goes something like this… Hey you must be a bleeding-heart, lefty lib. If you don’t like it here why don’t you move to one of those socialist countries and take the anti-Christ Obama with you? Sorry Grant, if you use too much logic with some of these people they just start calling you a liberal. It doesn’t matter that you worked for the Libertarian candidate in your area for the last two elections. Once you confuse them, you’re just a liberal or a socialist or maybe even both.

          • DaveH

            You worked for the Libertarian candidate? And you are for Socialized Medicine? Am I missing something?
            For the readers who might be thrown a curve by this misinformation see the Libertarian Party Platform:
            http://libertarianparty.org/platform

          • eyeswideopen

            Dave guess what, people don’t have to buy an entire party line hook line and sinker. Are you going to turn down Medicare when it is your time? No, you paid for it, and I bet you will sign up for it. Even though that will be against your party’s platform. You act as thought you walk a perfect line, when you don’t. You make comments about gays teaching our children a lifestyle. Libertarians aren’t supposed to be predjuice against the gays, what made you say that? Oops, not following the party line are you? lol

        • Joe H.

          Grant,
          Do you know anything about England’s single payer plan? It SUCKS big time. People die waiting to see an oncologist, they have a sweet practice called stacking that is where they leave patients in the ambulances till they can treat them in the ER and that way they can claim short wait times in the ER!!!! Even Canada is talking about going back to the private insurance plan!! All the countries that have single payer plans are having severe budget problems because of it. Get off ABC, NBC, and CBS once in awhile. Go to BBC and read a few foreign papers at your library!!!!

          • Curtis S

            Joe there isn’t a lot of talk about changing the Canadian Health Care system. There’s always some complaining but its just not a big issue in Canada. You’re twisting reality to support your bias.

          • Joe H.

            CS
            check out the windsor papers dude!!! I have a friend from there that gets it and they ARE considering it!!!

        • BlueMole

          Grant A voice of sanity! thx

        • DaveH

          How do I explain Double Speak? Anybody can make unfounded statements.

      • BlueMole

        thanks for being stupid Dave. Hey, wanna buy a nice bridge?

        • Jana

          BM,
          Why? Poor thing did you buy one and found out you got took?

        • DaveH

          As usual, in lieu of facts they launch personal attacks.
          Like a bunch of 9-year olds.

        • DaveH

          I love it when you Liberals comment on this board. It has taken me years to convince friends and relatives what you people are all about. And now you do all my work for me with your childish comments. Makes me feel younger too. Like I’m back in grammar school.

          • American Citizen

            You’re right Dave, just watch them on TV when they have those panels. When they don’t have facts, they just talk over everybody else with their nonsense. Here, if they don’t have facts, they sling mud.

    • http://donthaveone Beberoni

      Its considered etiquette in these countries to do the bow thing, and I dont have a problem with our leaders being cordial and doing it. None at all. But I do have a problem when the words out of their mouth apologize for us being a successful nation, and make us look bad. Ive got a big problem with that. It does not make them respect us. Ronald Reagan made them respect us. Respect comes through strength and truth, not from pacifist lies. Gimme a break allready. Countries customs are customs, big deal. But when our leader goes the pacifist appeaser route, weve got big problems.

      • Jana

        It is not protocol. I have heard other dignitaries state that they are not instructed to bow before meeting these dignitaries. Even Pres. Clinton did not bow. He shook hands like a man.

      • American Citizen

        It does Obama no good to apologize for us. Those other countries think he is a buffoon ready for the taking.

  • RayD

    Stan, Loves God, Stacy, Jim, Keith H, American Citizen, Everyone of you folks are exactly right in what you are writing about. What people like us need to do is write your congress as I often do and voice you oposition to whats happening to our country and let them know your vote will not be for them when they come up for election.
    Don’t give up, don’t ever give up

    • Joe H.

      RayD,
      I personally met my congressman the other day and when I said my name he said “oh the one that sends me all the mail.” He knows my name and I have been writing him for about 5 or 6 years now. I never let up if I think something is wrong. I have gotten form letters from him and also personally quoted letters from him. He knows there are about 50 here in my home town that will contact him if we think he’s screwing up. And it’s a small, small town!! he said each letter he gets on a subject is equal to about 7 to 10 votes of the same thinking. So if enough letters or calls come in, well I believe they start thinking about their job! That’s what you have to get them thinking about the JOB!

      • American Citizen

        I heard this evening the Senators have gotten millions of pink slips in the mail.

    • http://Yahoo Dee D

      RayD – I use postcards. Even make bigger ones so the reps will know many eyes has seen the message on it’s way to D C or their home office.

  • Ed Garza

    PLEASE, GOD: Take care of Satan, the anti-Christ.

    Take care of THE problem.

    Audience: You know WHAT I mean, and WHO I mean!!!!!!!!!

    • American Citizen

      I’ve done that and gotten a canned response. I don’t think they pay attention to what “we the people” think. If the tea parties didn’t tell them something, they’ll never pay attention to us. The only thing we can do is vote them out next year.

      • http://none waymat

        Hi American citizen! I’m one also.
        Below is a copy of my response to Stan on the problem of getting a response from your elected officials. Try it. It has worked for me.
        Waymat

        Stan:
        About contacting your senator: You can get a list of all their email address’ off the Internet. One source lets you send your message to all of them at the same time with a single click. Sounds good! What they don’t tell you is that all those out of your area(that is, the area containing those you can vote for)are going to delete your message without reading it. You are no threat to them because you can’t vote for them. That information comes from looking up some of them individually. All that I checked said, “If you are not in my area where you can vote for me, don’t bother contacting me. I have plenty to deal with from those who can vote for me.” – or something like that.
        Where I have found success is calling the office of those I can vote for and talking to their office help. I managed to get the name and personal email address from one person in each office. Then I email my message to them. They in turn review it and, if they think their boss would be interested, they send it on to him/her with a recommendation that the message be read. I have gotten some pretty good result with this system. One Congressman sent me a personal email stating, “I got the message loud and clear. There are too many of you that have told me not to vote for the health-care bill, so I didn’t.” I immediately checked his voting record on the Internet and verified his statement. I’ll vote for him again. I have also gotten a personal letter from one senator on another issue with a favorable result.
        My message always includes the statement, “I am dependent upon you to share this with the others out of my voting area. Without your help they will never know about this.”
        If, in their opinion, my message is worth sharing, I know they will.
        Just remember, they get thousands of messages every day. It would be impossible for them to read all of them. They have office help who can screen the messages and get the really important ones to them. They can also tell their boss if the bulk of their messages are urging them to vote one way or another.
        Even to those you can vote for, if you just email their office, you likely will get a form reply. No matter how many times I did that, it would always be the same form reply, and never any followup.
        I hope this helps. Good luck to all of us. Looks like we are going to need it!!

        • American Citizen

          That’s the problem, all the mail and e-mails are filtered through their staffs.

          • American Citizen

            Although I did get a personal reply from Mike Pence when I answered a letter from him. It was a letter to all his constituents and I sent it back with my personal opinions written around the edges. He was very gracious. He’s about the only one I trust up there from our state. I’m even disappointed with Lugar and hope he’s gone after the next election.

  • Joe H.

    Have any of you ever noticed that denniso is gone from the thread just long enough to get marching orders from lib central each time he leaves? I’m just sayin’……..

    • denniso

      I take marching orders from my wife and kid and no one else..then again,you never know. You’d have to trust my word on it.

      • DaveH

        You’re a nine-year old named Gabriela, and you have a wife and kid too?

      • Robert

        So you’re homeless? Kicked you rear end out, did they now? Bout time you fessed up. Homeless, eh? Couldn’t have happened to a nicer nutjob.

  • http://personallibertydigest louis z

    sometime in 2010 Mr. Obama may have a visitation from the Lord Jesus Christ himself in near future, if what I’m hearing from some of the prophets are saying will take place.Mr. Obama does not have a true base of what you would called a christian teaching from his childhood, so this makes his leadership in question of his background whether if he has any type of christian base to act from. he seems to be somewhat caught in between the Islamic years of his life, to those years from Mr Wright church in Chicago. remember the Lord changed Saul to Paul on the road going to Damascus, so Mr. Obama can have a same type of Damascus road experience that Paul had 2000 years ago. in the old testament was a prophet that was rebellious towards what the Lord wanted said to Israel, so the Lord spoke through the donkey in order to bless Israel.

  • http://google david

    I am afraid that with times changing and less farmers planting we will see a shortage of food. If farmers raise enough crops for their family, which they could produce enough to last them at least 3 years. Buy beef, kill a dear, kill a pig. enough meat in one season to last 3 to 4 years. Vegetables canned can last 4 to 5 years. one cow or one nanny goat for milk, butter and cheese. have a few chickens and 2 roosters. can goods on sale stock up. stock up on over the counter medicines and prescription drugs. get several zpacks. Have a plan with your families, where to meet and before hand buy canned goods on sale and carry it to the meeting place. People don’t realize that just how much food and silver it would take to survive. contact me anytime for other ideas, also if you have an idea. thanks, david

  • http://google david

    i remember growing up we had a two stool outhouse. cold as the devil in the winter. we also had a natural spring where we kept the milk in cold weather. we canned all the meat, turnip and mustard greens, beets, picklel, dried apples, peaches, strawberrys, sweet potatos. every thing was used. corn and all other vegetables. seems like a large group in a general area could come together in bad times. zip 27301

    • Jana

      We all need to plant a garden, and learn to can.

    • BlueMole

      Umm..I thought the devil was about heat. Cold as the devil?? What; are you some kind of heretic?

      Been to the outhouse. I prefer that socialist indoor plumbing

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        No, actually the devil is a cold cat. You see, thats why he keeps the fire burning all the time, because the dude is always cold. Havent you ever noticed if you walk into a room of someone evil, it is always cold in there. Always. I used to work for a millionaire, that would have sold his mother for a nickel. I mean this guy was that into money. Used to screw people over, and sank more than a few business by pulling underhanded unscrumpulous deals on them, then after getting sued, he would somehow with his high dollar lawyers, just keep the law suit going until he ran them out of money. I watched him spend 280,000.00 on a lawyer, to avoid paying this guy 40 grand he owed him, just do be able to say he won. Yeah, that evil. Anyhow when I walked into his office, there was always this cold air around, always. I didnt know what it was at the time, I found it very strange. Later in life when I became a Christian, I knew exactly what it was. Yeah, the devil is a cold dude. So now you know.

    • American Citizen

      I have a lot of the same memories and we may be coming back to that again. That’s where the progressives are taking us, backwards.

  • http://google david

    I obama had bit his lip everytime he lied then he would not have a lip.

    • American Citizen

      No, David, when you bite your lips they swell. That tell you anything?

  • Loves God

    Got that right, David! Isn’t satan the master of lies? If Obama has Olinski as his idol, can we expect less of him?

  • Ed Hostilo

    I guess people forget that the anti christ is supposed to be supported by the false prophet.

    • http://donthaveone Beberoni

      He hasnt came yet. Obama is an evil dude, but he isnt him.

  • David Hall

    I’VE READ QUITE A FEW COMMENTS, ABOUT FOLKS WRITING, IMPEACH OBAMA. I’LL WRITE THIS AGAIN, IT WILL NEVER, EVER, EVER, EVER, HAPPEN. THINK,
    THINK ABOUT WHAT YOUR WRITING. I CAN’T WRITE IN DETAIL, WHAT WOULD
    HAPPEN, I DID ONCE AND THEY FLAGGED ME AND WIPED IT OUT. (OFFENSIVE
    COMMENT) AND NEVER USED ONE CUSS WORD. GO FIGURE! ANYWAY, WE WOULD
    HAVE A BETTER CHANCE FOR FOLKS TO WRITE THEIR CONGRESSMAN ABOUT THEIR
    STATE SUCCEEDING FROM THE UNION. ALASKA, TEXAS, AND MY STATE, TENNESSEE, HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT IT, I BELIEVE. I MEAN, WHO IN THE HELL, REALLY NEEDS THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT? IT, NEEDS US. THAT’S WHY IT’S ALL ABOUT GOVERNMENT CONTROL.

    • David Hall

      OR BETTER YET, SIGNING PETITIONS IN YOUR OWN STATE.

      • DaveH

        David, please don’t use all uppercase. It makes it difficult to read your comments.

        • American Citizen

          It makes it easier for those of us with a vision problem. Maybe he also has one. But he may not understand all CAPS means you are shouting. I guess we should all write our Congresspersons using all Caps. Do you think they’d get the ideas? Maybe they’re all hard of seeing/hearing. Think it’d work?

          • David Hall

            THANK-YOU! AMERICAN CITIZEN. Sometimes I write in the small case, but
            most of the time I WRITE IN THE LARGE CASE, REASON BEING, I CAN SEE IT
            BETTER. I’M NOT SHOUTING OR YELLING WHEN I’M WRITING IN THE LARGE CASE.
            I’M A PRETTY DUMB OLE-BOY, BUT AIN’T STUPID, WRITING AND YELLING AND SHOUTING AT THE COMPUTER AS I WRITE, WOULD BE STUPID, AND YOU KNOW, YOU JUST CAN’T FIX STUPID. IF WRITING IN THE LARGE CASE, ANNOYS, STRESSES THEM OUT, HURTS THEIR FEELINGS, PLEASE, DON’T READ MY COMMENTS. THAT WILL FIX IT!

    • BlueMole

      Secede Crackerman. Texas is the biggest (word removed) in North America. Tennessee? Let’s just blow up those socialist TVA dams and flood that worthless piece of dirt. The US does not want your kind

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        Say there moleman, you ever been to Texas? Beautiful state. Ever been to Alaska? Even more beautiful. Ever been to Tennessee? I have 17 times now, and Im going to retire there I love it so much. Makes me happy you dont like these places, because we dont need your uneducated type there anyhow. Capish?

        • David Hall

          I WISH HE WOULD MOVE HERE ON THE TENNESSEE RIVER, AND SAY SOMETHING
          ABOUT TENNESSEE. THESE RIVER-RATS AND HILLBILLIES WOULDN’T PUT UP WITH
          HIS KIND. HE WOULD MAKE A REAL GOOD MOP.

      • David Hall

        HEY MUDMOLE, THANKS FOR MY SPELLIN LESSON, BOY. AS FAR AS YOU, SAYIN
        SOMETHING ABOUT MY STATE, TENNESSEE. I WISH YOU COULD SAY IT TO ME,
        EYEBALL TO EYEBALL, SO I COULD UNDERSTAND IT GOODER, IF YOU GET MY
        DRIFT, MUDMOLE. BY THE WAY THAT NAME KIND OF FITS YA, DON’T IT?

  • James Corbin

    Beberoni, Yes we are living in the last days! If people would just open their hearts and minds to the word and see what was prophesied-many, many years ago and now coming true—-Wars and rumors of wars, earth quakes in diverous places, MAN WILL TURN FROM HIS OWN KIND,
    children against parents and like wise. The bible says you will be pursecuted for his name sake( aren’t they trying to do away with God’s name)You are not to speak his name at christmas —- They want In God WE Trust taken off everything! But Muslims can pray anywhere!

    • http://donthaveone Beberoni

      I think its because that Jesus guy is dangerous you know. What with all that love, compassion, kindness, understanding and such. It scares them. These things are foreign to them that do not know the right way to go.

    • American Citizen

      i keep wondering how much longer God is going to put up with man’s inhumanity to man. The violence, the legal theft by governments, the lying, all the sins listed in the Bible as being the norm now, etc., Sometimes I long for the days when I was young and the world, even though WW2 was part of it, was a gentler time.

  • BlueMole

    You folks are crazy. It;s too bad the antichrist obama doesn;t have enough facilities to lock you all up and feed you Cheetos.

    btw – there is no God; so crying won’t help you and praying will do you no good.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VABSoHYQr6k

    • coal miner

      BlueMole,

      I agree with you,some of them do belong in a cracker house. The AnTI-CHRIST title was what the early christains gave to Nero and they are still ranting and raving about the Anti-Christ.Here are some of the people they accuse of being the Anti-Christ.
      Joe Stalin
      Ronald Regan
      George Bush
      B.Obama
      The Isreali Prime Minister
      Dr.Martin Luther KingJR
      When are they going to give it a rest?

      • BlueMole

        Coal Miner, Thanks

        I’ve lived in Pittsburgh, cool zone

        • David Hall

          HEY MUDMOLE, THAT EXPLAINS IT ALL. YOU DON’T NEED A BIBLE LESSON, BUT
          YOU DO NEED A SPANKING. YOU THE ONE WHO IS SICK, BUBBA.

      • American Citizen

        You are either for Christ or against HIm, there is no middle ground. If you are not for Him, you are an Anti-Christ.

        • JeffH

          American Citizen, I think your statement is a little extreme. What if someone was questioning whether there was a god? Not sure of his own beliefs? Many people don’t get religion until a ripe old age. That doesn’t mean they are against god! Do you think god makes his judgments based on your idea? Be careful not to become a hypocrit!

          • David Hall

            JeffH, no-sir, maybe not but God calls it like he sees it. If you don’t
            believe apples are tasty and good for you, then, very good chance, your
            anti-apple and the list can go on. Anti-this and anti-that. A man like,
            obama said he was a Christain, but by his deeds, he more like the damn
            devil, so I would say, he’s a damn Anti-Christ. If that’s hypocritical,
            then so be it. By the way everything, that is anything, starts from an
            idea. God, created everything in the fullness, there of. Had to start
            from an idea.

          • American Citizen

            Jesus said, “He who sees Me sees the Father.” You cannot come to faith by the use of reason. If your heart is not open, you’ll never know the truth. As I said, you’re either for Him or against Him. To say you’re not sure is to be a fence sitter.

            We once took a trip to Arizona to visit my husband’s sister. A group of us relatives and her friends took a trip across the desert to Sedona. While climbing up the trail of a mountain to the chapel on top, one of her friends looked around and said, “How can anyone say there is no God?”

          • American Citizen

            Believing in God is not a religion, it’s called Faith. Religion is how we practice that Faith in a community of like believers. People confuse the two. You can believe in God but not belong to any particular religion. I choose to believe in Jesus as well as God as He showed and told us how we should live our lives – in the love of God and love of neighbor/other people. He was reluctant to work His miracles, but knew it was necessary in order to show His divinity. Eye witnesses attested to His the miracles He worked. He still does today but most of the time they’re not recognized as such. Doctors will tell you they have cases where the patients recovered or were cured and they couldn’t explain why. Prayer works.

          • JeffH

            DaveHall, you’re right, god calls it like he sees it. AC laid it out as if it were an ultimatum. One way or the highway. Many people who might not believe in god today will change their mind through the course of their life and only then believe in god.

          • David Hall

            American Citizen, I agree with you 100%. I don’t understand how anybody, can look at the splendor, wonder, and beauty of the sea world,
            space, stars, moon and sun, hills, mountain, streams, rivers and wildlife, and even the complex creation and design of man, in all its
            perfection and NOT BELIEVE IN GOD ALMIGHTY. It blows my little pea-brain away, more than I can fathom. And then turn around and tell the
            world some believe in the BIG BOOM THEORY or we come by way of a little
            monkey. Then some don’t believe in nothing at all, they’re just blank.
            I personally believe one has to be chosen by God to believe in God. Reason being, you can talk until you are blue in the face, to somebody
            that don’t believe, and there just ain’t nobody home, they’ll never
            believe. That’s why most of the time, I don’t waste their time and mine.

          • David Hall

            JeffH, Sir your 100% right. Good deal!

    • Joe H.

      BlueMole,
      you are very aptly named as all moles are BLIND!! You are blind to the truth and to the Father, Son and The Spirit! You need to read your bible and start to believe or YOU will pay. I’m not saying that O-man is the Anti-Christ, but the bible does say beware the false prophet and I am very wary of him!!!

    • http://donthaveone Beberoni

      There is a God, and one day you will get to tell Him He doesnt exist. But your right, there is no use in crying. Why cry? Its like worrying, and it is written that you cant change one thing by worrying. But that is the great thing about God. You see, He sits there anxiously awaiting you to call Him, and if your so prideful and stubborn to the end, what with your denying Him and pushing Him away, especially when you look around and you see Him everywhere, but you still deny Him, that one day you will get to bow before Him, and give an account of yourself, at which point He will accomodate your earthly desires you wanted for all your years, and He will send you to a place where you will never hear His name again. He will give you your hearts desire. Good luck on that day, hope you change between now and then Mr. Blue. The lake of fire is not a nice place to visit or stay this time of year, or any time.

    • DaveH

      For the “intelligent” class, you Liberals aren’t too bright. You have pushed the religious people into a corner and they are finally fighting back. It’s about time.
      I’m a athiest, but I would take a moral religious person any day over you thieving, controlling, trouble-making Liberals.

      • American Citizen

        I honestly don’t understand why anyone can be an atheist. God’s fingerprints are all over His creation. Man can create nothing on his own, he can only use what God has already created to make something new.

        • David Hall

          American Citizen, Sir read the Book of Jude, it’s a short book, and
          explains folks like MUDMOLE. Plus it is also, in 2nd Peter. I would
          write what it says, but they would (OFFENSIVE COMMENT) me.

          • David Hall

            American citizen, OOPS! my misstake, I thought your were a sir, MA’AM.

        • DaveH

          Does it matter what I believe Citizen? I support true freedom, where religious people can believe what they want, and non-religious can believe what they want. I support a person’s right to control his/her own destiny without interference from an intrusive government. I support an individual’s responsibility for his/her own mistakes. Does anything else matter?
          I have no interest in converting anyone to my non-religion. I just don’t believe, and that will never change, foxholes notwithstanding.

          • American Citizen

            That’s your choice, no one is forcing you to believe. But I can tell you that some day you will. It may come after you die, but again, it’s your choice.
            As for the Libertarians, I believe they carry some things too far. A lot of things, yes, I could believe in. But in some things there would be anarchy if we did not have some controls on society. I said ,SOME. I have voted for some Libertarians to show the other two parties they need some checks. It would be niece if some of them could win just for that reason.

        • coal miner

          American Citizen,

          You mean billfold.All religions are a like,they got one thing in common,the collection plate.

          • David Hall

            coal miner, Sir, I don’t believe American Citizen was writing about
            religion, he was writing about creation. Yes, your are somewhat right,
            there are many, many gold digging churches out there. Making billions,
            of the Blood of the Lamb of God. If the churches were taking care of
            the Lord’s bussiness, people would depend on the church and NOT THE
            GOVERNMENT! Plus, our Nation wouldn’t be in the damn mess it is in.
            That’s why I believe it ain’t Clinton, Bush Sr., Bush Jr., or messiah
            Obama’s fault. It’s us, believers’ fault, THE CHURCHES.

    • nanosplit

      There is no God? Are you saying there is absolutely no absolutes. Just curious.

      • coal miner

        Bananasplit,

        I am agnostic,our philosophy is God’s existence can’t be proven or disproven.

  • John

    Were it possible, I would detonate a Class I nuclear device at this political “gang-bang” and spare the world of all these morons. Unfortunately, the problem can only be solved one round at a time. We can remove ourselves from this treaty by way of Resistance, and a Popular Uprising. A new government is not bound by the treaties of a discarded government. Come to think of it, we could solve our liberals problem too.

  • http://www.stanelaine.com Stan

    Hello GrantS,
    In reference to your question about a biblical quote in one of the comments; “He who loves the world, is an enemy of God”
    The short answer to your question from our (human) perspective is; that those who love the ‘material’ things of the world, such as money,fame, selfish pursuits etc. are enemies of God. Or,in other words, those who desire power and all that the material world has to offer, more than learning and knowing the attributes that God offers, such as selflessness,compassion for others, consideration of others,patience, kindness,love, ad infinitum. These attributes can be found in 1 Corinthians, Ch. 13. I don’t usually preach, but I thought the question did merit an answer. Regardless of how we see (or don’t see) God, he will not be left out of the equation. Politics, history and scripture are connected, the challenge is, getting people to see it!

    • http://donthaveone Beberoni

      Exactly.

  • James Corbin

    Curtis S, NO, If anybody is ignoring anybody or anything it is the
    liberal democrats. They don’t listen to the people (what they want) or
    the conistitution. I am a democrat—but I know when I have been had!!!!!!It;s time for people to wake up and stop playing policits and blaming another party. Its what it is now that you had better be concerned! There are too many of the same party ! We need more of a two party system. That is what kept Clinton from his socialism!!!!

  • James Corbin

    SORRY- I MISPELLED POLITICS IN THE POSTING ABOVE.

  • Smiley

    Wow! So many paranoid people here! The sky is falling the sky is falling! Obama is the anti Christ!

    Why didn’t you all get a better canidate for president? Maybe if you had a good guy Obama wouldn’t have won.

    • DaveH

      It is you Donkey Liberals who are running around proclaiming the end of the earth.

    • DaveH

      I must say that the MSM-backed choice of McCain was a bad choice. But Obama won because people didn’t really know Obama. They do now.

      • Mpugh

        And also they were hungry for “change”.

    • American Citizen

      Hi, Smiley, it’s good to see you posting again. Even if we don’t always agree, tee hee. Hope you’re learning something new every day. We old people need to keep these youngsters in line lol.

    • eyeswideopen

      Smiley, they thought they were pulling a fast one, by having Palin, on the ticket. They really thought the women in this country were that stupid to vote for a person who didn’t even know that the V.P. doesn’t make laws. That decision drove away people who would have taken a chance on McCain. They want to take back their country using violence instead of votes.

  • Loves God

    Smily, you have no clue! I couldn’t bring myself to vote in 2008 because neither candidate was worthy of my vote – least of all Obama! Are you an American? “We the people” have no say as to who runs for President and that’s a sad fact!

    • http://donthaveone Beberoni

      The dude is a hard core left wing liberal that lives in Minnesota and voted for Al Franken. Whats that tell you about him?

  • Loves God

    Blue Mole, I pity you that you don’t believe in a God who loves you. My faith is my anchor – especially in this crazy world we live in. Where what used to be wrong is now right and what used to be right is now wrong.

    • http://donthaveone Beberoni

      While the guy hates us and wishes us destroyed, it is our job to pray for this guy tonight, that he may have the truth and the light in him, that has been revealed to us, that he may have these good things inside him, that his hope might be restored. Thats a big problem with a lot of the liberals, they have lost their hope. Jesus can return that, so wont you all join me tonight and pray for the Blue Mole to have his eyes and ears opened. Thank you.

      • DaveH

        I’m glad I don’t have to pray for them.

  • James Corbin

    AmericanCitizen, Look at the link on my posting!

    • American Citizen

      James, which posting? These replies get so far away from the posts sometimes, it’s hard to know who is responding to who or which post. I can’t read them all as I have a vision problem at this time which is being worked on by the eye doctors. Hopefully, by next spring, I’ll be able to see more clearly and read books again. I have to use a spy glass now to read the newspaper. I would love to tell anyone who writes a newspaper, coupons, etc. what kind of print to use, how big, darker print, no colored backgrounds, etc. it becomes too much like work to try to read. That may also be why some newspapers are losing subscribers. Older people and anyone else with vision problems find them too difficult too read.

  • James Corbin

    El Chiclon—He will be in office for 31/2 years–Long enough to destroy us! I don’t even trust him if he would no longer be president
    Can’t tell what information he would pass to his kind!!

    They talk about Bush listening to calls, it was calls concerning over sseas to terrorist. I have nothing to hide, if anybody would want to listen to my calls to keep the country safe then so be it! We were safe for along time!But I am worried now!

    • DaveH

      While I would rather they obeyed the Constituion, I would take eavesdropping on my calls any day over the pillaging of my assets that the Liberals promote.

      • American Citizen

        I agree, they’d be bored stiff.

  • James Corbin

    Denniso, I am not prejudice!!I have nothing against color, I don’t believe Obama is president material. He has all those czars to tell
    him what to do and look what corupt people he picked —-anyway it is against the constitution! Even the Democrat Senator Byrd from WV said it was against the constition! NOTHING WAS DONE!!!

    • denniso

      James…Czars are presidential appointees, staff. That’s all. I heard that your buddy Shrub had more czars than Oboma..did you scream about that then?? NO??

      • Jana

        Pres. Bush had a lot of Czars, but not all at one time. They would serve for a period of time and then he would replace them. Ergo it seemed like he had a lot of Czars if you counted all that he had, but in reality he did not have that many positions of Czars. Unlike Obama, he took it to extremes. Just like his wife. How many people has she hired to help her as 1st Lady? 22 people at last count. No other 1st Lady has ever had that many uhh servants to cater to their needs/ demands.
        Both of the Obama’s are extravagant people.

  • coal miner

    JeffH,

    The son’s father blamed George BushJr.He said the land belongs to the Arabs and we got no business over there. .He and his son are Jewish.I hope one of these days the Arabs and Jews will make a lasting peace.

    • JeffH

      …and how does that change my comment? It doesn’t! You all have an 8 year memory problem. Excuses are for losers and that is all you Bush haters do is use him as an excuse for Obama’s ineptness. In case you haven’t figured it out, I don’t like Bush either. But I despise this marxist basterd we call a president. You see, I did research his background and know what he is all about. He is the devil himself!

      • David Hall

        JEFFH, AMEN TO ALL OF THAT! THESE LEFT-WING NUTS POP ON THE SCENE AND
        ALL THEY KNOW IS, HATE GOD, HATE BUSH, WE’RE ALL RACISTS, AND THEY
        LOVE THEIR DAMN MESSIAH OBAMA AND THAT’S IT! I WISH THEY HAD HIM,
        CRAMMED WHERE THE SUN DON’T SHINE.

      • coal miner

        JeffH,

        You said tell it to that boy’s parents,when he was decapitated.The boy’s father laid the blame on Bush.

        • JeffH

          That still has nothing to do with my comment. Why does Bush come into this conversation?

          • coal miner

            JeffH,

            When Bush was president,that was when Berg was killed.He was decapitated in a slow grusesome manner.You said tell it to the son’s parents, the muslems killed.Mr Berg laid the blamed on George Bush.

          • libertytrain

            Coal Miner – do you remember also, that he was advised not to go there by friends and family alike, and by others already there – but he was trying to make a buck in an area he thought would be a good place to make quick money – it was a horrible thing that happened to him – I wish he would not have chosen to go –

  • James Corbin

    John Sounds good —–Go for it!!

  • American Citizen

    I just heard Gary Cooper say this in a movie I’m watching, “The character of a country is the character of its little punks.” Ok, folks, all you little punks, let’s show this government what we’re made of.

  • Bokonon

    What are ‘czars’ as mentioned so often by Beckians? I understand the last czar was killed along with his family by the communists when they revolted against the King of Russia. Czar Nicholas,I believe it was. Communists don’t like czars. So maybe Glenn Beck is saying that Obama is not a communist? I doubt it.

    So what do you mean by “all those czars?” Advisors who tell the king what to do? A Czar doesn’t advise. There’s only one czar at a time, and he rules.

    “Czar” is just a buzzword that Glenn likes because it sounds Russian and therefore scary to his audience.

    For many decades, the liberal media has been using the term to designate any official appointed by the executive branch, such as the ‘drug czar’ and the “energy czar’. How did the word suddenly become so threatening?

    • American Citizen

      You have answered your own question, it’s the character of the czars that matters.

    • JeffH

      Gee whiz, don’t insult us…go to this link for the answer. It is also on the sidebar of this post;
      Barack Obama’s Corrupt Cronies

  • American Citizen

    Does anyone else wonder what Obama is giving away to the Chinese while he’s over there? They already own most of our country, what else can he give them? I just wish he’d stop wasting money running all over this world as well as this country and wasting money that way. He’s spent more time on Air Force 1 than he has in the White House.

  • Bokonon

    Maybe Obama is asking the Chinese for some more money or maybe some troops? Of course they’ll want something in return. Maybe our highways where they can set up toll stations and collect our debt that way.

    The Chinese could offer to help fight the Oil Wars instead of just lending the U.S. money to fund them. They can do it cheaper without Blackwater and KBR bleeding them dry.

    China’s the country that will need the most oil after the cars of jobless Americans all wear out.

  • James Corbin

    No, Bush did not have that many czars! They are picked by the president and it has to go through congress but, look who congress is all of the same party! I just said what the Senator (a democrat) said it was against the constitution!!!! He doesn’t need all those cZars!
    If he is competent. Look at their salaries and Michelle Obama has hired more people to work for her (in the Whitehouse)than any other
    wife of a president!!!!I AM A DEMOCRAT but I don’t know for how long!
    I like the morals of the republican or libertarians.
    Denniso, I think you have a one track mind (Bush) You had better snap out of it and realize what is taking place NOW! –________

    • Jana

      Obama’s Czars are not vetted. That is the problem.

    • eyeswideopen

      James, you need to go to this site and acknowledge that you are wrong about the amount of czars that Bush had. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._executive_branch_%27czars%27

      This president is doing nothing out of line, Regan, Bush I, Ford, Nixon, Clinton, all had czars that weren’t vetted. Did you complain during that time? Didn’t think so.

    • denniso

      James…my point is that most of you here trashing Obama were silent when Bush/Cheny were busting the budget,allowing the collapse and setting the world on fire w/ your tax money..tapping your phone,etc. So why did we not hear you and the right wing calling them vile names like you’re doing w/ Obama?? It’s a revelant question, because many people think there is an element of racism involved in the hatred directed at Obama. I think it’s mostly due to blind loyalty that most right wingers hold to.

      • Jana

        Excuse me denniso, just because we did not complain where you could hear it does not mean that we didn’t complain. You have no earthly idea what we were or were not doing back then. So quit being so cotton picking judgmental.

  • James Corbin

    American Citizen, The link Is posted on this posting under my name!

    • American Citizen

      James, I realize that, but there are so many postings on here now, I meant about where here will I find it.

  • James Corbin

    Richard William Faith, You are probably RIGHT and my oh my if he signs that treaty!!

  • American Citizen

    James Corbin, I found the link. Chilling, just as I thought, we really do have a Muslim as our president. I couldn’t stand to listen to his complete speech, I almost gagged at the lies.

  • coal miner

    jeffh

    How old are you? I am seventy Eight years old,I thought I was the only old man on this thread.

    • nanosplit

      Coal, 78? That explains it, over medicated like so many older Americans are today thanks to big Pharma– a favorite tool of the elite. C.S.Lewis called them “social conditioners”.

      As a point of info for those that don’t know—-here is a list of the banks that own the Federal Reserve, the so called elites elite.

      Rothschild> London/Berlin
      Lazard Bros.> Paris
      Israel Seiff> Italy
      Kuhn-Loeb> Germany
      Warburg> Hamburg/Amsterdam
      Lehman Bros.> New York
      Goldman Sachs> New York
      and of course Rockefeller> New York

      If you read their books,speech’s and comments, they tell you everything you need to know.
      By the way, if I had a blue mole I certainly would have it removed. In the black op world moles and spooks are quite common.
      Sorry, I gotta go, I’m due back at the nut house before they miss me.

      • coal miner

        Banana split,

        I only take medications for diabetes,what do you take, prozac? You sir are anti semitic,you just name Jewish business enterprises.Check it out.

    • David Hall

      COAL MINER, YOUR 78 YEARS OLD AND DON’T BELIEVE IN, JESUS CHRIST? WHAT
      IS YOUR FAVORITE GAME, PLAYING RUSSIAN ROULETTE?

  • Claire

    I want to ask all of you one question—If the Presidential election were held tomorrow, who would you vote for? Who do you want as the next President?

    • American Citizen

      Have to see who runs, but I will vote for anyone but a Democrat. I’d like to see a Libertarian get the vote just so we can get our country back on track. But 2010 is also very important as the real power lies in Congress. It’s our chance for CHANGE!

  • James Corbin

    Claire, It sure wouldn’t be a democrat for my vote. I am a democrat. We ( some how ) need to stop this spending. I hope the gov. run health care fails! Obama is destroying us!!!!

  • James Corbin

    Dave H, I can’t believe a man that seems so nice and intelligent and with morals could be an athiest. This isn’t meant to be an insult. I agree with you on all your comments.

    • DaveH

      James,
      Thank you. I was raised Catholic, but I would like to think that even if not I would still embrace morality. Above all, if we don’t respect each other’s freedom, then we will have chaos. I think that explains the mess we’re in currently, because a large portion of society thinks they have a right to forcefully share the earnings of others and to dictate their personal choices. And Liberals, for too long, have gotten away with shouting down anybody who disagrees with them.
      It’s time that we freedom-lovers, whether god-fearing or not, get together and stop those creeps.

  • DaveH

    Speaking of religion, many of you might wonder why the Liberals (Socialists) are so down on religion (especially Christianity). It is because of those pesky Ten Commandments, particularly the one that says “Thou shalt not steal”. Notice that nowhere in the Ten Commandments was there a qualifier that said “Unless you are in Government”. Religion stands in the way of their quest for absolute power and they resent that (the first thing the Communists did in Russia was to eradicate religion). So, it didn’t surprise me a bit when the Liberals starting attacking religion in the last several decades.

    • eyeswideopen

      You are now attempting to cause a rift in the the Christians. You are a atheist and would just love to see the Christians fighting each other. Maybe you should check your facts prior to trying to incite the masses. The largest percentage of Christians are Democrats, who are Catholics. What do you want, the Catholics fighting the Baptists? I think you really do hate this country. I know you hate Democrats because your ex-wife screwed you, but to hold a whole political party responsible for your failed relationship, is a little childish don’t you think? It really was just you and her, duking it out, none of the rest of the Democrats were with you.

      • American Citizen

        Oh, eyes is back and once again not comprehending a post. He did not say Democrats, he said Liberals. There are Liberals in both parties.

      • DaveH

        The people on this board who don’t have their eyeswideshut know the truth. You are just the typical controlling, thieving, trouble-making Liberal.

        • eyeswideopen

          Dave, you put all Democrats in the Liberal catagory, you have never once called a Republican a liberal. You are someone who preaches independence, however, you won’t carry health insurance making the rest of us liable for your care. Talk about someone with a hand in the pocket. You fit the bill perfectly. Unless you have a $200,000.00 bond made payable to a hospital, if and when you have a major medical occurance, you will be contributing to the crisis in this country. Can you state that if you die from a heart attack and your hospital bill is 100k that your children will step up and pay that amount? Think not. It will be the rest of us picking up your tab.

      • David Hall

        WELL IF IT AIN’T MY OLE BUDDY, EYESCLOSED! WELCOME ABOARD, MAYBE YOU
        CAN GET US JESUS FREAKS, STRAIGHTEN OUT ONCE IN FOR ALL. IT’S GOIN BE
        FUNNIER THAN PLAYIN WITH A BUCKET OF WORMS, READING ALL YOUR HOB-KNOB!
        HAPPY TO SEE YA, BACK!

    • coal miner

      Daveh,

      You are the strangest atheist I ever known,most atheist considerd these religious nuts,dangerous.I find them scary and down right rude.Blue mole is right,deeper you get in the woods,the more nuts you find.

      • DaveH

        You must be kidding Miner. I have never been treated badly by religious people except by my brother who is just evil notwithstanding his religion.
        On the other hand, thanks to Big Government built up by the Liberals, I have been ripped off to the tune of close to a half a million over my life, and I’ve never made more than $100,000 a year. Usually much less. And now, the creeps are trying to force me to buy products I don’t believe in as well as taxing me to death.
        They consider themselves charitable. But charity is helping with your own money, not other peoples’. What they engage in is just plain theft.

        • Grant S.

          Dave H: I’m a liberal, but I don’t believe in big government. In fact, most liberals I know don’t believe in big government. Why does everyone on this forum insist that this is the case? How can this be explained?

          It seems to be another case of “say it enough times, and it’ll magically become true.”

          • Jana

            Grant, its that labeling thing.
            Obama is considered a radical liberal who does want big government. Most of the liberals voted for him.
            Liberalism used to be an honorable term. Some people on the liberal side has turned it into a governmental monster eating up the citizens and making everything run by the government and for the government.

          • Grant S.

            Jana: then we probably shouldn’t label. It only creates total distortion. And for the record: Obama is *not* a radical liberal. The guy is middle-of-the-road, in the pocket of corporations. I have to give him applause for wanting to change things for the better (which is unfortunately more than we can say for the previous eight years of know-nothingery cynicism); but he’s maintaing the status quo quite well. If Obama *were* a radical liberal, what would you call Dennis Kucinich? And all of this talk about loosing our freedoms? Where are some actual examples? I can’t figure out what all this screaming and doom and gloom is all about.

        • David Hall

          DaveH, just hang around a while, because we ain’t seen nothing, yet.
          By the time, obama gets done, there will be a lot of folks, coming into
          the light, (so to speak). A lot of times, when a man or woman gets down
          about as far as can go and feel hopeless, many swallow a bullet, but many CRY OUT IN THE NAME OF THE LORD. Back in the Big Depression, many
          that didn’t believe in God, became to believe. Strange things happen
          for the good, sometimes, when all we can see is bad. Especially, when a
          man feels all HOPE is gone.

      • David Hall

        coal miner, MUDMOLE, ain’t right about nothing. Yes, the woods are full
        of nuts. Even, a BLIND SQUIRREL finds a nut, every now and then. Hope,
        some day, YOU FIND YOURS.

  • http://www.stanelaine.com Stan

    Hello Richard Pawley,
    There is a “Constitution Party” I,m researching it now and spoken with the National Field Director. I suggest to anyone who is sick and tired of petty partisan bickering to check it out. Democrats or Republicans, they are two wings of the same ugly bird! Let’s find a common ground as AMERICANS first…and move forward from there!
    By the way,it may come as a surprise to some that, Obama was not voted in, he was chosen,indoctrinated (educated) and pre-selected long before the campaign process took place. He is not the problem, the Corporate Elite that put him there are! Do the research and draw your own conclusions.

    • CindyL

      Stan, only problem with the Constitution Party, is that they are mixing religion into their policies and platform. Our founding fathers didn’t do that for a reason. I will quote James Madison.” The purpose of seperation of church and state is to keep forever from these shores the ceaseless strife that has soaked the soil of Europe in blood for centuries.” He recognized that religion is the reason for many of the worlds wars. What is wrong with the Constitution that has served us for over 233 years?
      You however are correct about the Corporate elite, they now have control of the government and us. Our government didn’t protect us from the corporations, and banks. Instead of holding ourselves accountable, we are quick to blame others. A conspiracy theory is always how people justify bonding together to avoid acceptance of responsibility for the situation.

    • Mpugh

      I actually voted for the Constitution Party candidate. (Okay everyone, go ahead and tell me how I threw my vote away). I like what the party stands for: the Constitution. Other parties, especially the demoncrats and republiscams, would rather throw the constitution in the trash.

  • American Citizen

    Let me start by saying that when I first became old enough to vote, (age 21 back then and still wet behind the ears), I voted Democrat because my parents were Dems and I wasn’t political savvy then. When I got older, the Democrat Party left me so I registered as a Republican. A few years ago I became aware of that party also letting me down, so I became an Independent. I watch, read and listen and vote now for the person whom I think is the more conservative.

    As for the Libertarians, I think they should spend their energy in the state races first until they become better known as a legitimate party. Then go for the national seats. I do vote for some Libertarians at the state level to help keep the other two parties honest. Unfortunately, they don’t win, but it sends a message.

    • eyeswideopen

      American, so you don’t vote for the most qualified, as you are busy trying to keep the other parties honest by voting for a Libertarian? Somehow I know you think that makes sense.

  • Becky

    The paranoid train is getting ready to leave. Do you all have your tickets?

    • American Citizen

      Becky, you need to wise up.

    • eyeswideopen

      Becky, they don’t need tickets, they have used their guns and have taken back the train. LOL.

      • David Hall

        Now Eyes, that’s a wonderful statement! It won’t be long. I went to
        Wal-mart yesterday and bought a box of 30.06 shells. The shelfs, were
        almost empty. I asked the clerk, man, where’s all the bullets? He told
        me folks are buying em as fast, as we get em in. Us folks, along the
        Tennessee River, ain’t goin get caught with out pants down.

    • coal miner

      Becky,

      Is it the Ginger Bread Express?If you are a college student and majoring in mental health,this is the right place.These paranoid nuts out number the normal.They see the anti-christ behind every tree,buiding and finally the white house.Don’t worry when they get rid of everybody else,they will turn on each other.

      • David Hall

        coal miner, Sir almost right against, anybody that don’t believe in
        Jesus Christ, is Anti-Christ. It’s a no-brainer! If you don’t like
        cold water-melon on a hot sunny day. Your Anti-Water-melon. See, how
        easy that is to understand. Sir, I don’t think, you have much to be
        concerned about Christains doing much to non-believers. But, you do
        have alot to worry about non-believers, they are your car-jackers, gang-bangers, drug dealers, burgulars, murders, rapists, child-molesters, bank-robbers, pimps, xxx-rated inter-net users, etc. I know
        there is an extreme nut-cases that says God told me to do it, but, the
        liitle deranged voice whispering in his little ear was the devil or
        booging man. The Lord Jesus would never tell someone to commit crimes.
        But for the most part it’s the non-believers that are the down fall of
        the world, they have no one they answer too, except there sick twisted,
        wicked minds. Some may not fit these categories, but most do.

  • John

    This is a copy of the letter I sent to NY Senator Chuck Schumer. It also went to the major Talk Radio shows, so “Upchuck” can’t ignore it. Flood Congress with your voice on the issues. They can’t any longer ignore “WE, THE PEOPLE.”
    …………………………………………………………….
    Hi Chuck,
    Yep, there’s that word that you liberals don’t like to use: “Terrorism.” God forbid someone connects Islamic, or Islamo to it. Then you all run for cover.
    Let me get this straight: You blame the State of Texas, for this idiot Moslem Major killing 13 fellow soldiers, and wounding 30-plus others? How soon before you start calling Major Hasan a victim, rather than what he is: a Jihadist Terrorist? For this Moslem piece of crap to shout “Allah Akbar” and proceed to execute 13, and wound 34 others, tells me everything I need to know about the enemy within. If these “Allahists” cannot reconcile their religion with service to their country, then it’s time all Moslems be swept from the Military.
    When was the last time a Protestant, a Catholic, a Jew, or for that matter, a Druid, did anything similiar? Do you ever spool-up your mind before engaging your mouth? Or do you just let your mouth run on automatic? I advised you in my last correspondence, which you were so quick to respond to, that I am not Politically Correct, so here goes:
    You sir, and I use the term “sir” loosely, are an asshole. A typical liberal asshole. And to top it off, as a person who has never held a real job, being only a homesteading career politician, you are a social parasite, and one of the main reasons our system of Government is broken.
    New York used to be my “home.” My parents, grandparents, and most of my relatives were New Yorkers. My brother, sister, and my daughter were born in New York; and I was stationed there. I “escaped” from New York after my last Tour Of Duty, and my best view of New York State was of the diminishing view of the state line in my real-view mirror. Until somebody comes along with the balls and the horsepower to clean-up that state, lower the taxes, give back to the people their liberties, and rein-in politicians like yourself, New York will never live up to its’ name: The Empire State.
    Oh, and by the way, I expect you and your fellow social parasites, to pay your “fair share” of taxes to the “O’Bama Empire” when that $250,000 income cap comes into existence. Or is the “Chosen One” going to exempt his go-fers in the Democratic Party, ACORN, and the SEIU from that?
    You cannot kick me out of the Democratic Party, and I’m not leaving so you’d better get used to me. My family was among the original Patriots who helped establish the United States. We’ve been defending this nation since that time. What’s your claim to fame? I would hazard a guess that keeping the country safe, and following your “Oath Of Office” to “protect and defend the Constitution from all enemies, foreign and domestic” doesn’t figure too highly in your Senate career. One has only to look, and see which parts of the Constitution that you pick and choose from to see that you don’t take your “Oath Of Office” seriously.

    • Jana

      Very good letter John.
      I used to be a Democrat too. The party went off and left me. Then I went to the Rep. party and I am fighting to keep it on track.
      It is frustrating to see people like Becky come on and try to twist what we say. She is an instigator and could be from ACORN, so beware of her.

      • David Hall

        Jana, well don’t be sad, be happy! Before it’s over messiah obama and
        his Chicago buddies will have the stock market crashed, the dollar
        colasped, inflation through the roof, war lost, gas & utililites through the roof and we will ALL BE IN THE SAME BOAT TOGETHER, the rich and the poor, eating the same bowl of beans, with a big glass of
        water, sayin them beans ain’t that bad, are they? Folks, spoke and voted for him, and ain’t no sense cryin about it.

    • eyeswideopen

      john, well the last time someone did something similar was a Catholic, Timothy McVeigh. Were you alseep during the Okc incident? He killed 168 Americans. Was he a Catholic terrorist? Or just a nut case?

      • Jana

        Now he is one I would call a RADICAL for sure. I heard that they called him a Right Wing Radical just like they call people that stand outside an abortion clinic and kill the Dr.’s and or nurses that work there as “religious” right wingers. There is nothing “religious” as in Godly about these people. They are off into their own weird thing. Personally, I think they are home grown terrorists.
        Any Radical person, whether left or right is not a good thing.

        eyes, what do you call Mc Veigh?

      • John

        That idiot, McVeigh, was a fringe nut. He didn’t invoke God, as he set off his bomb, and in all probability, was hoping to trigger a backlash of some sort for a cause that was hiding in the dark recesses of his mind. McVeigh and Lee Harvey Oswald would probably have been good friends.

  • Loves God

    Becky, you must be young,naive, and believe in Camelot otherwise you would not have made such a silly comment.

  • http://www.stanelaine.com Stan

    Hello Waymat,
    Thank you for your response/comments.Re; contacting Senators and representatives, I have had similar experiences,usually a canned response with no follow up,and, as you said, it is understandable considering they receive thousands of e-mails and letters a day. For example,Glenn Beck gets over 4,000 letters a day, and Senators aides tell me a similar story. Sen Bill Nelson did personally respond (not canned) in agreement with transparency and auditing the Federal Reserve.(Although we should abolish the FED) Several Congressmen and Senators I have spoken to at the HCREC (Hillsborough County Republican Executive Commitee) meetings also agree. However,some became ‘guarded’at the mention of such entities as the Council on Foreign Relations or Trilateral Commission and, especially considering WHO their members are! It is curious that they do not disagree when I say that CFR, Trilateral and Bilderberg Group are the ones that are really controlling our country…these powerful entities are just different heads connected to the same beast! Believe me,the research does pay off because later discussions with various leaders & representatives lets you know that they know you know (what is transpiring behind the scenes!)
    Ron Paul said the “enemy” have bigger guns. Very true, but I believe they underestimate the ‘spirit of the American people’ This is where our strength will be, because there are more of us than them!

  • http://www.stanelaine.com Stan

    Claire asks; “If the Presidential election were held tomorrow, who would you vote for?” My answer is,that since it is unreasonable to find the “perfect” candidate, then that someone should at least have the following character attributes; Someone we feel we can TRUST. Someone with a sound resume’. Someone with INTEGRITY & CHARACTER. Someone with COMPASSION for the American people.Someone who really CARES about the future of our country. Someone with proven leadership abilities. Someone who knows that the success of our country was, to a great extent, built upon the Constitution. Of all the neccessary attributes, I believe TRUST is paramount. Who is that person? I don’t know! Let’s see, Ronald Reagan is no longer with us, Jesus Christ has not arrived yet, G.Edward Griffin does not want the job..tough call….I’ll gamble on Ron Paul for President because of his maturity, experience and sincerity. And Sarah Palin for Vice-President (as soon as she has regrouped,boned up on foreign policy and related administitive issues) Lou Dobbs could also be a positive contribution to the team, if he were interested. I beieve all of the above would be a good start in bringing our country back to sanity…it would certainly be better than our present destuctive government! That is my idealistic view. I would welcome any comments, but please, no petty name calling or partisan bickering! Thank you.

    • American Citizen

      For all the reasons you stated, I like Mike Huckabee. He has name recognition, even more so since he has his own show on Fox, with Sarah as vice. Whenever I hear him talk about what is going on, his views seem to be conservative. Sarah is real, always herself, and a conservative. She is smarter than most people give her credit for.

      • coal miner

        American Citizen,

        So is a chimpanzee.

        • Claire

          Coal Miner—I like your way of thinking–but she is smart enough to go after the money and that is exactly what she is doing.

  • coal miner

    Jeffh,

    I don’t trust any politician.Plato said: “no politician is honest”.We keep an open mind.About the only president I like and trusted was Richard Nixion.
    I thought he got a bum rap.He was set up my the news media.The jury is still out on Obama.

  • http://www.stanelaine.com Stan

    Hello American Citizen,
    That has a paticularly nice ring to it since I became a naturalized US citizen just 18 mths. ago. And no, I did not sneak across the border illegally, because I respect the laws of the land.
    I have always liked Huckabee, and still do, however it is reported that he is not an ordained minister as he claims. You can check the reports via; newswithviews,judicialwatch and Alan Stang. Also learned that Huckabee is a CFR member, which gives me cause for concern. Also, he has been given his own show on the Fox Network, and Rupert Murdock, who owns Fox,is a CFR member! I’ve discovered during my “catch up” research that verifying the facts is a daunting task, and accessing reliable information is quite challenging. I’m keeping an open mind on Huckabee because I like him. Unfortunately, liking is not enough. Obama is likeable, but he is a lying chameleon and receives his directives (indirectly) from the CFR!

    • Jana

      What is the CFR?

    • eyeswideopen

      Stan,Good catch. Most don’t know about CFR. I don’t trust Palin, as her husband belonged to a radical political party. Claims it was a mistake, however he attended meetings, how can that be a mistake? She acts like a kid, critizing McCains staff and trying to beat up a 19 yr old. She is very immature and lacks alot of knowledge about how our government functions. She claims not to want government help,but she sure took the oil subsidies and Alaska sends in $1.00 and gets back $1.84. Come on Sarah, you are like Ron Paul who gets 75 million in earmarks and wants to stop government growth. Sure he does. His actions are speaking louder than words.

      • David Hall

        Eyes, you don’t trust Palin’s husband, but do trust, obama and his cronies, and his relationship with that nut preacher, Wright? You,
        folks are something, else.

      • denniso

        Palin sunk McCain all by herself…if the rightwing sticks w/ her it will sink them again. So, please do embrace the nonthinker ‘gottcha girl’ who gives a bad name to women as serious candidates.

        • David Hall

          , who’s your star? Pelosi. Damn-it-boy!

      • http://Yahoo Dee D

        Hey all – get rid of your tunnel vision. Eyeswideopen makes a whole lot of sense in many of her posts. If you choose not to believe, it would pay to check it out first, then make your own decision. I feel some put her down so much because you know she’s right and you just will not accept truth or you are so sure she outshines you ya gotta jump her case.

  • http://www.stanelaine.com Stan

    Answer to Jana,
    CFR is the “Council on Foreign Relations”.It has around 4,000 members. Among them are key personnel in Government,Industry, Military and Wall St.such as Bankers, Industrialists, Politicians,Billionaires and Moguls. Along with the “Trilateral Commission” and “Bilderberg Group”, they are in bed with the “Federal Reserve” and “IMF” It is a multi-national banking consortium that vitually owns and controls the major banking Corporarations of the world. These entities may have different names, but they are, in reality, different heads of the same beast. If you are familiar with scripture, think of the beast with 10 heads mentioned in Revelation. Or, if you are averse to scripture, think of the mythical multi-headed hydra. Do your own research and draw your own conclusions. There is an abundance of data available and, if you wish, I would be happy to share informational resources with you. The above comments are only the tip of the iceberg.It has taken me over 18 mths. of exhaustive research to uncover all this data. I wish there were an easier way to get to the truth. Needless to say, it has been an intriguing,fascinating and surprising journey with no end in sight!

    • American Citizen

      Thank you both for the info. I’m going to ask Mike Huckabee about all this personally. I think he gives his e-mail address at the end of his show. I hate to think I wouldn’t vote for him, for as you say, he is very likable. He says all the right things and I think he really believes them.

    • Jana

      Thank you Stan. I will do some research on it.
      Is it possible that some are on this counsel in the adage of keep your friends close and your enemies closer?

      I do not know anything about this and am just asking your opinion, not trying to be a wiseguy here. That is how we learn, by asking. But most definitely I have written it down and will search it out.

  • James Corbin

    ROBERT, I CAN TELL YOU WHAT DENNISO AND THE REST OF THE LIBERALS WILL SAY——IT’S GEORGE BUSHES’S FAULT!!!!!!!!!!

  • James Corbin

    DAVE H, I JUST KNEW YOU HAD TO HAVE SOME KIND OF CHRISTAIN BACKGROUND. I DON’T MEAN THIS AS A BAD THING111111

  • http://www.stanelaine.com Stan

    From one American Citizen to another, I wish you luck. Bear in mind that, not all CFR members approve of everything on their “Agenda” or some members may not be fully aware of the big picture. On the other hand, the Trilateral Commission, which only has several hundred members, calls the shots…at least on this side of the Atlantic! If you follow the money trail, you’ll find it leads back to the Bank of England. Remember politics on Television is part entertainment and the Corporate Media actors have become very adept at being convincing and likeable! It takes a good deal of discernment, (or ESP),to figure out who you can believe! Yes,Huckabee does say the right things and he may still be clean. I share your hope that he is. Check out his policies and where he stands on key issues.

  • James Corbin

    ROBERT, THANK YOU FOR SERVING OUR COUNTRY! I’M WITH EVERYBODY THAT HAS SENSE TO KNOW WHAT IS GOING ON! SOME OF THESE PEOPLE CAN’T SEE PAST THEIR NOSES.

  • James Corbin

    Bush, had a total of 36 positions (many temporary) filled by a total of 46 different indivduals over the years, of which only 21 were confirmed by U. S. Senate.

    Obama, has 36

  • James Corbin

    I complain about all the debt and still going, going and we will be gone!!!!!

  • coal miner

    CindyL,

    The French also gave us the Statue of liberty.

  • James Corbin

    A Big Thanks to you James Reily for serving our country!

  • James Corbin

    Denniso, yes there will be one world government. If Obama signs that global treaty ( I think that is the correct name) and there will be
    one world religion. Did you ever see just an up rise of one religion like the muslim? (What a coincident,our president is a muslim)and one world bank. I’m sure you have heard the talk on tv. This is what is slowly happening. I’m sure there are other people on here that know what I’m talking about!

    • denniso

      JamesC…seriously, you and the others are going over the edge w/ this conspiracy stuff…There are hundreds of religions,some pretty kooky, and we’re going to wind up w/ an all muslim world? It’s already reported that there will be no climate treaty signed, just more talk. Obama went to a muslim elementary school for a yr or so..he’s not a muslim! There is rampant fear and fearmongering here and on Limbaugh and Beck and other looney ‘shows’. Don’t buy into it.You’re being used.

      • Smiley

        It’s interesting that people in this country are trying to do the Muslims like Hitler did to the Jews. Blame everything on them and make them look as if their life doesn’t matter. They are only Muslims what it’s matter if we kill them off? That kind of thinking is just wrong.
        You should be asking, why do the muslims hate us so much? If you study history you will find out. We have been medeling in their affairs ever since we discovered the oil in the Middle East. And we defend Isreal without question. Did you know that Iran offered to help the United States get Osama Bin Landin after 9/11? We were bombing if Afganistan and Iran told us we were bombing the wrong places. But then Bush went and called them Evil and that ended the help from Iran. We had a situation to smooth out tensions between the US and Iran, but Bush took the stand that Iran was evil. If we had worked with them back in 2002 when they wanted to work with us we probably wouldn’t be worring about Iran’s Nuclear program. But hey, Bush and others need that fear. Keep Americans afraid so you can get away with doing the awful things you want to do, like invade countries and kill Muslims.

        • coal miner

          Smiley,

          You are one hundred percent right.Iran is the enemy of Bin Laden.Iran is socialist and Bin Laden is a conservative,they hate each other with a passion.Personally,I think Bin Laden is dead.Georeg Bush and Dick Cheney should be brought up on war crimes.

          • American Citizen

            The things of it is, the terrorists we are fighting are all Muslim Jihadists. If they had paid attention to that Hasan and the red flags he was waving, Fort Hood would not have happened. They need to at least be profiled. Political correctness is getting us killed in more ways that one. The Muslims themselves have said their goal is to make the whole world Muslim.

      • American Citizen

        Go to YouTube and listen to a speech by Obama. You’ll have no doubts about him being Muslim.

  • http://www.stanelaine.com Stan

    Jana asks,
    Is it possible that some members are in the CFR in the adage of’keep your friends close and your enemies even closer?’ Yes. They are sometimes referred to as The Corporate Elite. When you pull up CFR, it will list their members names. Some are members of both the CFR and The ‘Trilateral Commission’.
    As the saying goes “Ask and it shall be given” If it’s any consolation, I knew nothing at all about this myself 18 mths ago.
    Incidentally, the origins of these entities are documented and can easily be traced hisorically, and for that, you’ll have to do more research.

  • John

    Here is a blueprint. Probably not a complete one, but a start. You can add to it, take and run with, forward it, not forward it, copy it, or delete it. It makes no difference to me.

    “When the government ceases to serve the people, it is the people’s right and obligation to replace that government…”

    The first responsibility is to take back our government, and our country. It can and should be done peacefully, or we can invest in guillotines. Next, we begin trials for Treason, and Sedition against government officials, and limited private parties, such as George Soros, with those guilty of Treason, and causing the gravest damage to the nation receiving the death penalty. Prison time (at Super Max?) for those convicted of Sedition. At the same time, we remove, with force if necessary, the UN from this country. We can either dynamite that glass abortion where they plot their one-world government take-over, or renovate the structure to provide low-income apartments. Next is the sealing of the borders. The governors of the border states can utilise their respective Army and Air National Guard units, and where they exist, their Naval Militia (Navy National Guard) units, to accomplish that mission. After this, we have to remove ourselves from foreign energy, and work toward becoming a major energy producing country, while paying off our debt with petro-dollars. We CAN do it. Then we set our sights on the “Centers of Higher Learning” The time has arrived to drive out ALL the Marxist/Socialist/Communist professors who have been doing their level best of indoctrinating their students against this country. Here’s a real no-brainer: start teaching US History, the Constitution, and The Bill of Rights again, and throw in Geography without the aid of GPS. How many college grads can read a map? I know a number of high school grads who don’t know how to fold a map, let alone use one. Probably because it isn’t taught on “American Idol,” or “Dancing With The Stars.” And don’t forget Math and Science. After all is accomplished, we take on and neuter: the Greens, ELF, ACORN, the SEIU, CAIR, and the ACLU. I think this could have a way of working out. Like I said above: constructively add to it, or don’t; distribute it, or don’t. That’s not up to me.

    • American Citizen

      You left out the courts.

      • John

        Add that to it, and send it on. Time is running out, and the options are becoming fewer and fewer. Unless things change quickly, resistance and uprising will appear on the horizon, and all hell will break loose.

        • Loves God

          John – your proposal is right on target, however, it would take a miracle (literally) to accomplish it!

    • denniso

      OUT TO LUNCH, OUT TO LUNCH!!!!

  • James Corbin

    This may be off the subject——But if you would like to send a Christmas Card to our troops. WWW. Lets Say Thanks. Com This is neat!

    • American Citizen

      I tried to do that last year and got them back as they told me the cards had to go to specific vets.

      • American Citizen

        But as I think about it, I believe they were to go to wounded vets in the hospital.

  • James Corbin

    Jay, one of his czars believe in communalism!

  • American Citizen

    denniso, since there was no “reply” under your post, I am very aware of what the Constitution says about the “establishment” of religion. It denies the government the right to force us all to belong to the same religion and it also prevents it from restricting the free exercise of our religion. In other words, the government has to stay out of our lives as far as our religious practices unless a practice violates a civil law. But the words, “separation of church and state” are nowhere to be found in that precious document.

  • James Corbin

    I was looking through the postings and realized I didn’t acknowledge
    all the people that served our country so I want to thank everybody that served.

    This is really neat–If any one is interested in sending Christmas cards to our troops. WWW. Lets Say Thanks.Com

  • http://www.stanelaine.com Stan

    A much belated response to CindyL.
    Hello CindyL,
    I agree that the religious overtones in the Constitution Party were of concern to me also, only because they tend be divisive in the political arena. We need always to find a common ground in problem solving discussions and our personal religious beliefs serve only to hinder that process. Christian based believers will agree that religion, in and of itself, is an underlying cause of strife and confusion. They maintain that knowing Christ is not religion, it is a personal relationship with Christ. It is wise to try and understand both sides.

  • James Corbin

    DaveH, What did you think of the interview Bill Oreilly had with Sarah Palin? If so what were your thoughr on thE INTERVIEW?

  • James Corbin

    WANT TO HAVE SOME FUN THIS CHRISTMAS? Send the ACLU a Christmas Card
    tis year. As they are working so hard to get rid of the Christmas part of the holiday, we should all send them a nice Christmas Card to brighten up their dark, sad little world. Make sure it says “Merry Christmas” on it
    ACLU
    125 Broad ST.
    18th Floor
    New York, NY 10004

    Two tons of Christmas Cards would freeze their operations because they would n’t know if it was regular mail containing contrubtions.
    These people are the one’s sueing the government to take God, Christmas oor anything Christain away from us. Let’s help put Christ back into Christmas. Since they are out numbered- Why do we let them get by with this? Instead of picking on the Christain, that doesn’t harm anybody—–Why don’t they use their energy toward the Muslim, they are the ones trying to killus and make trouble!

    • Carlie

      Thank you for the idea of sending the ACLU Christmas cards! I love it! But lets not forget to pray for them because no matter how we personally feel about them the Father God & Jesus loves them. And they do not want to see any of us go to hell. Maybe He’ll send the Holy Spirit in & He’ll bust loose.

      I’ll also pass the address along so eventually every one that believes can send one too.

  • James Corbin

    How many of you signed the petition that Jeff H posted?

  • Loves God

    Sounds like a wonderful idea James! I’m going to get all my Catholic friends to send Christmas cards to the ACLU! God be with you, James!

  • Mpugh

    This blog is way too long to read so I’ll just respond to the first comment by Paul and to the article.

    As a person who loves to study bible prophecy and usually has a keen sense of what’s going on, I must admit that I never would have suspected the Global Warming/Climate hype to be the vehicle for the NWO. Honestly, though, I’m still not completely convinced this popular hype is a strong enough vehicle for the NWO; but it did take one more followers and lasted longer than I expected. Anyway, time will tell.

    As for Paul’s comment, Obama is one of several people on my list of Antichrist candidates. King George II was another but he’s not smart enough to be the AC. What puts Obama towards the top of my list is the Obama-mania that swept our country during the elections and even now. Like the prophesied AC, Obama seems to have this strange and mysterious ability to woo followers into blind devotion with his charismatic speeches. He also has a way of making things happen that shouldn’t be happening and despite any opposition. That said, however, I won’t give him that label yet. It’s too early now but time will tell.

    • denniso

      Mpugh…there was an Obama mania because a majority of the country was so sick of the worst president in our history and relished the chance to vote for an actually smart and well spoken person, who was also a break from the 200+ yrs of white elitists as president. Anti christ??come on, that’s is SO much nonsense it’s hard to believe any thinking adult falls for that!!

      • Mpugh

        It’s even harder to believe any thinking adult wouldn’t. But it is written, “the foolishness of God is wiser than men; and the weakness of God is stronger than men” 1Cor 1:25

    • coal miner

      Mpugh,

      Man you out for lunch.You’re on that bashing Obama train or out of your tree.
      I grew up with guys like you.Anybody you don’t like,or think they are against that silly religious bull (word removed) of yours,they are the Anti-Christ.That started with Nero and now it is the president.Years ago that pentecostal mother of mine,told me the end of the world would be no later then the year two-thousand.Now we are at year 2009 and I am still waiting.

      • Mpugh

        I’m going to excuse your comment as simply the result of ignorance (no offense intended). I once thought as you do, thinking against the Christian “silly religious bull” (as you put it). But then one day I surrendered my life to Jesus Christ and my eyes were then opened. To you, I probably do appear to be “out to lunch” and “out of my tree”, as I also once thought Christians were. And I’m okay with your opinion of me.

        As someone already mentioned, and as the bible tells us, there are already many “anti-Christs” in the world(“anti” meaning against). However, all I was saying is that Obama is on my list of potential candidates for that one prophesied world leader who will actually be THE Anti-Christ, specifically, Satan in the flesh. Is he now or will he be later? I don’t know. But time will tell. Keep in mind, though, that AC will appear in the beginning of (or prelude to) his reign to be very sweet, polite, charismatic, intelligent, and powerful; and loved by many.

        If after reading this you still insist that I’m off my rocker, I’m merely giving you what is written in God’s prophetic word. In this case, I stand by my previous post.

        Oh, and for the record, I’m a registered Independent and I don’t think McCain would have done any better than Obama. In fact, Obama strikes me as a stronger leader (even if in the wrong direction).

        As for your pentecostal mother, she was most likely speculating on the time of the end. Yes, we’ve been doing that for many generations. But every day that goes by is another day that we’re more correct. And in light of everything going on in the world, even an honest skeptic should still find reason to believe the end is near.

      • David Hall

        coal miner, ALL PEOPLE MAKE MISTAKES, including your momma and the Pentecost Doctrine. JESUS DON’T MAKE MISTAKES! You were believing in the wrong people. My momma has told me things that wasn’t true. Years
        ago, I believed in Santa Claus. Guess what? There ain’t one, but there
        is a God, Jesus, Holy Spirit and I ain’t lying.

  • Vincent Espo

    James Corbin,
    thanks for the aclu address and yes I will send a MERRY CHRISTMAS CARD. If the Commander and Chief does not put up Christmas decorations at the White House then I think its time to make a change, with all that’s going on I’am asking myself (I guess hundreds of thousands are too) why did all of us that were in the military risk our lives? When all we stand for is being taken away from us.
    Thanks again James

    Relay

    • denniso

      So, if someone in your neighborhood doesn’t put up X-mas decorations than they are unamerican and should be run out of town? What if they are of a different religion or have none? Should we lynch them for being traitors? You are nothing but a buffoon who ought to go back to the dark ages and let our society progress.

      • libertytrain

        Your reply is filled with things that weren’t said in the comment – sounds just like “eyes” -

  • http://Yahoo Dee D

    Chip – The birth of a ONE WORLD GOVERNMENT or ONE WORLD ORDER (1st stage) started before the global warning were published.

  • Ed

    I sent this to my U. S. Senators in Pennsylvania, I urge everyone who reads this to send this or something similar to their Senators. Thanks

    Global warming has been exposed as a FRAUD. Top climate-change scientists have manipulated data to hide cooling trends and worked together to marginalize scientists with opposing views.
    Academics have purposely hidden data, destroyed information and doctored their results to commit scientific fraud.

    I want you to support Sen. James Inhofe, R-Okla., who says he plans to demand an investigation into the fraudulent data manipulation unveiled at a highly influential British research center.
    Any Americans involved in this FRAUD should be prosecuted. This thing is serious. You think about the literally millions of dollars that have been thrown away on some of this stuff that they came out with.

  • dave sweet

    just a thought for muslims- why wait to go to heaven to get virgins
    when you can have them here now?

  • http://www.stanelaine.com Stan B

    Subject: GLOBAL WARMING
    To all seriously concerned readers.

    Lord Christopher Monckton (former Science Advisor to Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher)challenged Al Gore, if he has the courage, to an international debate on the ‘Global Warming’ theory.
    When the Democrats heard this, they refused to allow Monckton to testify.
    For more information on Global Warming, go to; FREEDOMFORCE INTERNATIONAL and pull up ‘UNFILTERED NEWS’ and access Global Warming.

  • HannibalBarka

    For the past millenia we have been describing ourselves by our religion, race, creed, or what nation we have come from. What has it brought us? War, death, persecution, genocide. I am happy that there are groups such as UN that are willing to look past the differences and have the will to describe us as simply human. Western Europe got past the nationality kick in the early 1900s, America got past the race kick in the 1960s. Why can’t we unite as a species? Why do we have to have countries? Think about it. No more outsourcing of jobs to other countries, everyone taxed the same. One World Government. It is an ideal that may be worth fighting for.

  • http://aol nancy says

    America, We are changing, HEALTHCARE YES IT NEEDS TO BE FIXED, BUT NOT THIS WAY, TO MANY
    ITEMS THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH HEALTHCARE

    EVERYONE THAT ARE UPSET WITH AMERICAN CITIZEN NOT WANTING TO PAY MORE TAXES, MY
    QUESTION DO YOU PAY ALL THE TAXES THAT AMERICAN CITIZEN HAVE TO PAY.

    WHY DO WE HAVE A AMERICAN PRESIDENT THAT BOWS, AS A AMERICAN PRESIDENT HE SHOULD BE PROUD
    AND NOT BOW.

  • Erik Osbun

    The premise, the very foundation of this U.N. movement, that industrial emissions cause climate change is false.

    The geologic record for 65 million years shows climate change far more
    dramatic than anything going on now: 8 degree atmospheric temperature change about every 90,000 years. This geologic record comes from cores of Antarctic ice, and, of course, the bulk of it occurred when industry did not yet exist.

    Therefore, the United Nations should get out of their perceived role
    as world governor to control climate change and redistribute wealth.
    That goal is totalitarian.

  • http://www.blindedbyscience.co.uk/ Jenniffer Ruppe

    I was amazed to discover, in a book that I read recently, that tree rings have nothing whatsoever to do with temperature change. Trees growth, it turns out, are influenced only moderately by changes in temperature. The most important factors that cause trees to grow are sunspot activity and the movement of the planets. I know this sounds like quackery but the scientific evidence that supported it was pretty convincing. More importantly for me, was the fact that this book was not about climate change is was about new ideas in science. The book is called Blinded by Science and is presently free to download at http://www.blindedbyscience.co.uk. See if you are as convinced as I was.

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