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Town Considers Banning Dogs

September 12, 2012 by  

Town Considers Banning Dogs
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Some business owners in Beaver Falls, Pa., think dogs are hurting their business.

The business district of Beaver Falls, Pa., is trying to keep its patrons on a short leash. The area near Pittsburgh is considering banning dogs.

Some pet owners have gotten in the habit of tying their dogs to parking meters, and business owners are afraid that the canines are scaring away potential customers. Not only that, but city officials are tired of the mess caused by the pooches.

“When I walk, I try to walk daily, I tell you I get disgusted because people aren’t cleaning up after their dogs, after animals,” said John Kirkland, a councilman in Beaver Falls. “They got to clean up.”

Others think that dogs should be allowed wherever the family goes, as long as the owner keeps a watch on their pet.

“Some people treat their dogs just like family members and you don’t want to do that to your family member,” said Andre Milliner, a Beaver Falls resident. “So, let’s just have a little law, don’t leave your dog unattended.”

It will be at least a year before the proposal proceeds further.

Bryan Nash

Staff writer Bryan Nash has devoted much of his life to searching for the truth behind the lies that the masses never question. He is currently pursuing a Master's of Divinity and is the author of The Messiah's Misfits, Things Unseen and The Backpack Guide to Surviving the University. He has also been a regular contributor to the magazine Biblical Insights.

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  • FreedomFighter

    A better idea would be to make a spot for the dogs while the shoppers shop. Give fines for not cleaning up leavings, maybe even provide poopie picker upper baggies and receptical. A positive approach is advised, if so many bring there k-9 friends to the area, isnt it better to make your shoppers happy and maybe they will spend more.

    A coffee shop I used to goto put several boat ties, small ones like you see on boats to tie to the dock spaced accross the wooden posts along the sidewalk and near the bench outside the shop along with a bowl of clean water. It was amazing how many early morning dog walkers stoped in for a cup of coffee and donut and they even started selling doggie snacks. Offered napkins and gloves for poopie for free…was really good for the mans shop.

    I guess he could have complained about the dogs tied to posts while his patrons got a coffee or yelled at them when dogs pooped instead of giving them something clean it up… I suspect his shop would have fewer regular paying happy customers.

    Btw he won me over with the boat ties and water… got coffee every morning.

    Laus Deo
    Semper Fi

    • eddie47d

      Wow! The first really sane comment I’ve heard from Freedom Fighter and I do wholeheartedly agree. Pets are big business in America and some families can’t live without them. Beaver Falls council doesn’t have a chance.

      • Randy131

        Must be a Democratically controlled town for such a stupid corrective measure to solve simple problems that have many other methods to do so, without banning ‘Man’s Best Friend’.

    • Karolyn

      Now there’s a smart businessman!

  • rb

    You mean the shop owner DIDN’T need the government to provide the tie up area, poopy bags and bowl for the water. (I suppose in an urban area the government already provides the water itself) Wow… what an amazing concept. Take care of the problem on your own! Can’t be American can it?

    • 45caliber

      Of course it isn’t American. No Congressman got involved …

    • Nadzieja Batki

      Eventually the local government will stick their nose in to regulate. It is as true as day follows night.

  • Joanio57

    While I love dogs myself, I too get disgusted when trying to go for a walk and have to dodge animal waste. It’s not the dogs’ fault, but the irresponsible pet owners. I used to live in an area where the baggies were right there on the side of the trail so pet owners didn’t even have to bring their own, but people still let their pets go not only at the side but directly on the trail and just leave it there. So I don’t think they should ban the dogs, just the irresponsible pet owners. When there is a fine, it is usually so small that pet owners think they won’t get caught often enough for it to make a difference, so I say, make the fine substantial….maybe a week of community service picking up pet leavings…at least enough to make people think twice about leaving it for someone else.

  • Dawn

    The problem is that you DO have to pass legislation to make people personally responsible. It’s a waste of our time and taxpayer dollars, but you can’t count on people to do the right thing. Here in Florida, everyone totes their dogs around in purses and strollers. It’s weird but I can’t say I’ve encountered a whole lot of pet messes on the street, either.

  • chip

    “Some people treat their dogs just like family members….

    That statement shows the problem. People who can not grasp the basic idea that their pet is an animal, not a “member of their family”. How sick can people get? Recently I have seen these confused sick-os enter even restaurants and food stores with animal in tow claiming their “soulmate” was allowed with them because it was a “service animal”. If someone wants to turn their home into a flea infested barn that smells worse then a chicken coop, their choice, but keep the walking filth away from public areas.

    • CHRISTOPHER ALLEN HORTON

      “chip,” GREAT COMMENTS.

    • TIME

      Dear Chip,

      Wow your a really special person, so warm and well just loving and yet I wouldn’t want to ban you from public area’s.

      But I guess thats the differance in how a person who thinks about
      what a truly FREE Society is.

      BTW – Hey thanks for telling me I live in a Flee infested smelly barn like home, had you not told me hell I would have thought it was normal.

      Peace and Love :-)

      PS: My wife can’t have children so we do treat our pets as
      family members. I guess with your mind set; my wife should just be put to death.
      I sure learn something new here daily on the PLD! Saddly its mostly about the sickness that infest the human gene’s / DNA.

      • RR1

        I agree with you Time, my wife and I can’t have kids and we looked into adoption services well we don’t have enough money to buy a kid, but our pets are our kids and we have gone through plenty of vacuums and steam cleaners to keep them in business for a bunch of years so our house doesn’t smell like a barn either, when we walk we have doggie waste bags, we have them in all of our cars and camper too, so Mr. Chip would like to come and inspect our humble abode he is more than welcome, as far as I am concerned the irresponsible owners should be fined at least a few hundred buck to make them think again and if the town bands the animals the owners of the store will feel the pinch because they will loose so many customers, BTW back home we stopped going to festivals because they started banning pets and so did a lot of other people and they suffered the lost of income.

      • TIME

        Dear RR1,

        Our babys are so well trained that we have a table at a local hang out where they sit at the table and eat, I kid you not.

        Its not an easy gig when efforts for having a child fail.
        I have worked with Big Brothers for years and tried to help a few, oddly we had one woman who had legal papers presented to us to addopt her son.
        So we did take him in and raise him as if he were our own child.
        I am quite happy to report that he is now at Cal Tec on year two and doing SUPER. We love him as I said as if he were our own, BTW he also loves our Dogs like his brother and sister.

        My friend when your in the company of a Dog, your in GREAT company!

        All the best to you and your wife.

        Peace and LOVE

      • CHRISTOPHER ALLEN HORTON

        “TIME,”

        I AM GLAD YOU DID NOT NAME THE “local hang-out” WHERE YOU TAKE YOUR PETS. THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN BAD FOR BUSINESS. I AM SURPRISED NO ONE HAS CALLED THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT.

    • Chester

      Chip, sounds a lot like you are totally on your own, no wife or kids to worry about, so you come and go as you please, do your laundry when you get around to it, pick up the empty pizza boxes when they get piled too deep to walk over. In other words, our typical loner who can see no sense in anyone else living any other way. How about getting a life and figuring out why some people will treat their pets as family. For one thing, how about coming home to someone who will greet you at the door and do everything they can to let you know they are GLAD to see you. That kind of unconditional love is easy to get used to and hard to live without once you do get accustomed to it.

    • Peter 10-nov-1775

      I feel the same way about people and their misbehaving, rude brats. Mothers have no problem putting their rug-rats on the counters of delis and Dunkin-Donuts. They look admiringly as their devil spawn rips a display down, all the while saying “how cute”. I will take my three huskies {who are smarter than most kids} ANY day!!

    • auhunter

      Yes a dog is an animal, basically as we are also. I have had at least one dog all my life, treated them with love and compassion as any member of the family. Surprising how well behaved and obedient they become, unlike some children. Treat children as You would a dog, and they become belligerent and argumentative, just as a dog will if mistreated. They would have defended me to the death, as I would have any family member. The ones I have now come to me and let me know when they need food or water or need to go out to go potty. And for those of you who believe that dogs do not understand the human language, guess again. The key is to keep the language in one or two syllable words, such as “do you want to go out”, the key word being “out”, they understand that, and eventually the whole sentence, to the point when you ask them “what do you want” they will go to their food or water dish or the door to let you know.

    • Karolyn

      Someone who can’t love a dog is someone I’m glad i don’t know. IEvery day I read about animal mistreatment, and my opinion is that if they treat a pet that way, they can’t treat their families much better.

      • Teresa

        Exactly. I consider it a sign of how bad our nation has deteriorated when I see the animal abuse videos that were posted on social networking sites. I hope there is a special place in hell for all of them.

  • 45caliber

    This is why pet owners should have a yard. Of course, many of them with yards prefer to allow their pets to go next door, though.

  • http://omniv8 pete0097

    The messy dog owners brought this on themselves. If they cleaned up after themselves, there wouldn’t be a problem. That being said, kids are messier than dogs. Will they be next. I see an old Disney movie in real life – Chitty Chitty Bang Bang where the evil government bans children.

  • rendarsmith

    Good God now they gotta pass another law because people are being stupid and irresponsible…

  • Baloney Toney Mahoney

    The Mahoney Man says: God hit the jackpot when he created the dog…I say let them crap wherever they want!!!! BTW, maybe they should ask Joe Willie Namath, most famous son of Beaver Falls, what he thinks?????

  • Linnee

    I have NO comprehension to why people are so lazy and irresponsible that they don’t take a bag with them when they walk their dog(s). It isn’t difficult to clean of dog defication (unless they have loose stools), but then I wouldn’t take them downtown, anyway, unless I was planning on dropping them off at the groomers. They are my ‘babies’, as my children are grown, married, have children of their own and live 1000 miles away from me. As such, I would rather walk them first, then take them back home where they are safe, cool or warm (depending on the season), and secure. I have two Pomeranians; to leave them exposed to the general populace is an invitation to theft (or abduction—if one considers them members of the family). It is a common occurance for small purebreads to be targeted for black market selling.

  • momo

    Keep the dogs, ban the politicians.

    • Rick

      best idea yet. So many whiners that only care about their un-natural sterile dream world. I have had dogd my whole life and yes they are part of the family not an accesory.And the idea of a designated dog area to the side would solve the problem and still allow pet owners to want to do business in the area. I for one would not do business in area where my pet and therefore mybusiness is not welcome.

    • al

      Yeah, the kind of mess politicians leave behind, you need more than a pooper scooper, you need generations of children to pay off what they leave behind.

  • gaaak

    Sad that there are people out there who have so little to offer humanity, that they require some ANIMAL to depend on them.

    • Karolyn

      How sad that you do not understand the love of a dog. All my life I have had at least one dog with the exception of 6 months, and I had to get one when the previous dog died the same year as my mother and I realized that the only two entities who will love you unconditionally, no matter what, are a mother and a dog!

  • CBUETT

    Really TIME, Yes Chip was saying your wife should be put to death you Jackass! If thats what you took out of his post your even more challenged then I thought. If you as a human frikin being wanna walk behind an animal and pick up its feces and walk around with them in a bag, and call that animal your family member; thats your right. But none of my family members lick their own privates and wipe there rear ends on the carpet, and eat other dogs poop. Just sayin.

    • Rick

      CBUETT, your relativesw don’t have to lick their own privates they have you. I truely feelsad that you have no love or compassion for any one or anything but your selfish and alien world. Animals are as much a part of this world as you and probably more so they don’t hate everything else like you do. The whole thign is about Love something you and Chip both know nothing about.

    • TIME

      Oh My Dear CBuett,

      Thank you oh so much for your very kind words. Words that express such deep thinking, let alone such moving words.

      I mean, really – I am Jast saying…… :-)

      Good on ya! Thanks again.

      Peace and LOVE

  • CBUETT

    And also, if i were to die in my home and knowone found me for a week; my family members wouldnt eat me, like a dog would.

    • JimH

      Gives a whole new meaning to “feeding the dog”.
      Burglars should also “feed the dog”.

    • Karolyn

      OMG! Are you serious?

      • JimH

        Hi Karolyn, No I’m not serious. Just a play on words.

      • JimH

        All a burglar in my house would have to do is give our dog a treat and she would show them where the good stuff is.

      • Karolyn

        Actually, I was responding to cbuett.

      • JimH

        Hi Karolyn, CBUETT didn’t make any new friends today, that’s for sure.

  • http://priscillaking.blogspot.com Priscilla King

    Hah! What about banning the specific practice of tying dogs to parking meters, or “littering” by failing to scoop? Why encroach on people’s right to own and travel with dogs?

  • http://PersonalLibertyDigest Dianna zerbe

    carry a garbage bag with you and pick up after your dog
    it’s not the dog’s fault
    we had dogs in Germany and we had to scoop with the poop
    and carry it away so it’s possible to do and to make
    everyone happy

  • Dad

    Does that include the mayor’s wife?

  • JimH

    The way I read the article is there would be a ban on dogs downtown, not dog ownership in the town.
    It would be OK to walk the dog in your nieghborhood or in the park.
    It could all be taken care of with a poop bag.
    Even in our nieghborhood or parks I always pick up.
    It’s only common courtesy.
    One does run the risk of the 4 year old nieghbor boy asking you why you’re carrying around a bag of poop. He was persistant in wanting an answer.

    • TIME

      Dear Jim,

      Thank you, super post, we lived in NYC for some time so its just second nature to treat others as one would like to be treated.
      A number of bag’s and a walk go hand in hand.

      Peace and LOVE

      • JimH

        Hi TIME, Instead of the Foxworthy, “You may be a redneck” jokes, My wife and I do the “You are a dog owner if”, jokes.
        You know you’re a dog owner(or owned by a dog) when you put on a jacket you haven’t worn in months and you find dog treats and poop bags in the pockets.

      • TIME

        Dear Jim,

        Oh my do I know that feeling so well..

        I don’t think I own anything that dose not have plastic bags and treets in it. What we both get a kick out of is when we reach for the wallet only to have dog cookie’s to pay with.

        Most everyone knows us quite well so they know we will be back to pay them, the looks we get – are worth more than money.

        I don’t know if you and your wife have stuffed animils all over the house as we do, but I just love it when someone comes by and ask’s, So just how many children do you two have?

        Peace and LOVE

      • Karolyn

        I have to step over slaughtered stuffed animal parts littering my hallway. the first thing he does when he gets a new one is debowel it! :-)

  • david

    Make sense, lets make a law for common sense. When your Fifi poops in public locations, I will bring my two big poop busters for a reciprocal job. Call me the uncompensated division of sanitation for sanity and saftey.

  • http://www.facebook.com/dan.mancuso.56 Dan Mancuso

    I guess there are two kinds of people in this world – to generalize – those who like dogs because they recognize the loyalty, unconditional love, the importance of the mental and phyisiological health benefits that stems from dog ownership and the emotional value of that companionship, not to mention the protection or at least warning of four or two legged predators that a dog will naturally provide to it’s fellow pack members.
    Then there are those who either have never had the wonderful experience of having a dog in their lives – or just aren’t capable of experiencing or appreciating all the positive benefits a dog unconditionally provides, or, those – for whatever reason – that just hate dogs ( I believe it’s because they are compassionless self haters).
    I guess there are two kinds of dog owners in the world – to generalize – those who care about their dogs and have enough self respect and respect for others and their community to pick up after their dogs and those, who are not just too lazy to clean up the result of their dog’s natural body function, but are so narscissistic that they leave their mess everywhere for everyone else to deal with – I think – generally, these are the ones who litter.
    I’m not sure which category people who anthropomorphize their dogs fit into. I admit I myself am guilty – sometimes – of doing this, but my dog is a dog and I try to treat him that way out of respect for his wonderful dog qualities. I recognize his distinct (from human) psychology and pack instinct, and in understanding this I can relate to him on his level and get him to do what I want, with out coercion.This includes training him to be under my control – I’m the pack leader! It also includes the fact that I refuse to live in an urban setting so I don’t have to put a leash on him – not that I need one, because I have trained him to obey me and heel – and living in a rural area, I don’t have to pick up after him because the size of his defecation is a lot smaller that the cow and horse poo we walk amoungst – and by walking him daily he naturally ‘goes’ on our walks, so I have very little poo to deal with in the yard.
    Even though I recognize that my dog is a dog and I’m not his ‘dad’, I still consider him to have the status of a family member and a friend. He’s been a better friend to me than some ‘friends’ I’ve had, and I prefer his company to that of most people I’ve come into contact with over the years. If you put on a balance all the attributes and all the negatives of dogs, and the only negative I can come up with is dog hair every where, there’s just no contest. After almost 12 years of living with my dog as a constant companion, I am not in the least bothered by dog hair anymore, I just deal with it.
    As far as ‘governments’ wanting to make dog leash laws, ban certain breeds or whaterver else they want to restrict – this is not about public safety, it is strictly about Nanny State Socialism and thinking they have a right to take away your right to choose for yourself. Period!
    I love my dog and I don’t care what any body says…

    • TIME

      Dear Dan,

      {I agree with you 100% in all respects.} Our dogs are loved by most anyone who comes in contact with them. We have always had dogs and I can’t even fathom what life would be like with out them.

      Our baby Keeshond died on 9 /11/2002 it broke us in to many a small piece, it was as if we lost a large part of our heart.
      It took us two full years to get over it. When we did we got a 3 month old Keeshond and just a few months later got Keeshond number two.

      Life is good again! Woof Woof

      Peace and LOVE

  • Peter 10-nov-1775

    Sick and tired of the mess these politicians leave–let us ban them!! “They are not allowed!!”

  • Patriot Diva

    Ahhhh liberalism! Spreading misery wherever it goes!

  • swampfox

    I have an idea,every dog owner ought to mail their dogs excrement and send it to the white house addressed to Obama and tell em this is what we think of his sh*t!

  • Karolyn

    Ya just gotta love Bryan Nash’s attention-getting false glad headlines!

    • Karolyn

      false “FLAG” I hate this laptop!

  • RJ

    I’d rather ban stupid people, it just makes more sense.

  • Chris

    It would be nice if just “once” an owner traveling on foot with his pet was followed to his home and then his dog’s waste dumped on his step as he was going into his house by someone who saw the dog defecate and picked it up for home delivery……..the owner could then be told to pick up after his dog. But since this will probably never happen, another way around this is to follow the dog owner home, get his address, then report him to the police so he gets a fine…….maybe “that” will make him start to pick up the crap.
    And………..people should “NOT” be shopping with their dogs………..period! Leave the dog AT HOME! It really irritates me to see dogs tethered to a pole while the owner is shopping only because I worry about the safety of the dog……….there are “bunchers” out there looking to steal dogs to sell to animal labs for experimentation………and there are other crud out there looking to steal dogs to use as pit bull fighting bait. Wake up people! If you love your dog, you’ll leave him at home while shopping.
    .

  • diderot

    The citizens should pass a law banning parasites and sociopaths.

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