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They Signed For Us

July 2, 2010 by  

They Signed For Us

Happy Anniversary To Us

Tomorrow will mark a full year of Straight Talk columns for Personal Liberty Digest™. How time flies when you’re having fun! As many of you know, I also write two other, shorter features for Personal Liberty Digest™ every week—Chip Shots, which appears at the bottom of Friday’s columns, and This Week in History, which appears at the bottom of Wednesday’s.

As it happens, my very first piece for Personal Liberty Digest™ was about the incredible men who pledged their lives, their fortunes and their sacred honor to secure liberty for us. So it seems only appropriate to repeat that message again today, as we prepare to celebrate our 234th Independence Day. Happy July 4!

Every schoolchild in America knows why we celebrate the Fourth of July. Flags and fireworks commemorate the day we declared our independence from Britain.

On July 4, 1776, after months of heated debate, representatives of the Continental Congress voted unanimously that, “These United Colonies are and of right ought to be Free and Independent States.”

Thirteen colonies voted to become something new in history—the United States of America. Now, all they had to do was win their independence from a government that would consider them traitors.

Fifty-six men bravely affixed their signatures to the Declaration of Independence. What sort of men were they? And what became of them?

Twenty-four were lawyers and jurists, 11 were merchants and nine were farmers or plantation owners. They were well-educated men of means. All of them had a great deal to lose when they voted to defy what was then the most powerful nation on earth. Yet they willingly risked everything when they pledged to each other “our Lives, our Fortunes, and our sacred Honor.”

As I said, all of us can explain why we celebrate Independence Day on July 4th. But how many of us can name even a handful of the signers of the Declaration of Independence? How much do we know, really, about the men who risked their lives and everything they owned in the cause of freedom?

Because the story of the signers is so inspiring, we’ve arranged a special treat for you today—a free copy of a wonderful little book called They Signed For Us.

Half a century ago two patriotic ladies in the Midwest wanted to help others learn more about the remarkable men who signed the Declaration. Merle Sinclair and Annabel Douglas McArthur wrote a delightful book about the events of that time, including a history of each of the signers. They called it, They Signed For Us.

At the end of today’s column, you’ll find a link that will take you to a free copy of the book. You may read it online or download it and print your own copy. The file also includes a list of all of the signers and the states they represented, plus the complete text of the Declaration of Independence.

To whet your appetite a bit, here’s an excerpt from They Signed For Us.

“SUDDENLY THE BIG BELL in the State House steeple pealed joyously. The appointed signal! Cheers rose from the waiting crowds.

“‘Proclaim liberty throughout the land….’

“Cannon boomed, drums rolled. Church bells rang, sounding the death knell of British domination!

“News of the adoption of the Declaration of Independence spread like wildfire. Ready messengers leaped into their saddles to ride and spread the word. The Declaration had been ordered printed on a single large sheet, ’45.5 x 37.5 cm.,’ or approximately 18 inches by 15 inches. These broadsides were distributed with all possible speed, to be read in the provincial assemblies, pulpits, market places, and army camps.”

The story continues:

“On July 8, the Liberty Bell summoned citizens of Philadelphia to the State House yard for a public reading of the document. Colonel John Nixon mounted a high platform and spoke the noble lines in a strong, clear voice. The crowd, now hushed, listened intently throughout.

‘…for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of Divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes, and our sacred Honor.’”

It was almost a month later that the Declaration was engrossed on parchment and ready for signing by the delegates to the Continental Congress. Members gathered on Aug. 2 for the ceremony.

The only person who had signed the Declaration on July 4 was John Hancock, a delegate from Boston who had been elected president of the Continental Congress. He wrote his signature in large, bold letters and as he did, in a reference to the near-sightedness of the British king, he declared, “There! John Bull can read my name without spectacles and may now double his reward of £500 for my head. That is my defiance.”

As the delegates gathered around a desk to sign the Declaration, William Emery, one of the representatives from Rhode Island, moved as close as he could. “I was determined to see how they all looked as they signed what might be their death warrants,” he later wrote. “I placed myself beside the secretary, Charles Thomson, and eyed each closely as he affixed his name to the document. Undaunted resolution was displayed on every countenance.”

Contrasting with Hancock’s confident signature was the shaky scratch of Stephen Hopkins from Rhode Island. Hopkins was the second-oldest signer and suffered from palsy. As he handed the quill to the next person, he valiantly proclaimed, “My hand trembles, but my heart does not!”

As one or two delegates hung back, seemingly reluctant to add their signatures to such a momentous declaration, John Hancock encouraged them. “We must be unanimous,” he said. “There must be no pulling different ways. We must all hang together.”

Legend has it that Benjamin Franklin replied, “Yes, we must all hang together. Or most assuredly, we shall all hang separately.”

Happily, none of the signers was hanged by the British. But all of them were considered traitors to the Crown. And many of them suffered terribly for the cause they so ardently supported.

When New Jersey signer Richard Stockton returned to his home after signing the Declaration he learned that British troops were coming to arrest him. He fled to a neighbor’s house with his wife and children. But a Loyalist (as supporters of the British cause were called) betrayed the family’s hiding place. Here is how Merle Sinclair and Annabel Douglas McArthur describe what happened to him:

“The judge was dragged from bed and beaten, then thrown into prison. This distinguished jurist, who had worn the handsome robes of a colonial court, now shivered in a common jail, abused and all but starved.

“A shocked Congress arranged for his parole. Invalided by the harsh treatment he had received, he returned to [his home at] Morven to find his furniture and clothing burned, his fine horses stolen, and his library—one of the finest private collections in the country—completely destroyed. The hiding place of exquisite family silver, hastily buried, had been betrayed by a servant.

“The Stockton’s were so destitute that they had to accept charity. For the judge’s fortune was gone, too. He had pledged it and his life to his country. He lost both. He did not live to see the Revolution won.”

John Morton, a delegate from Pennsylvania, was the first of the signers to die. His last words for his family, before his death in April 1777 (just eight months after he signed the Declaration), were, “…tell them that they will live to see the hour when they shall acknowledge it to have been the most glorious service I ever rendered to my country.”

The following month Button Gwinnett, the commander in chief of Georgia’s militia, was badly wounded in a duel with a political opponent. He died a few days later—the second signer to die.

But by and large, the signers of the Declaration of Independence were a hardy bunch. Three of them lived until their 90s—a remarkable accomplishment in a time when most men did not see their 50th birthday.

Only two of the signers were bachelors. Sixteen of them married twice. Records indicate that at least two, and perhaps as many as six, were childless. But the other 50 signers were a prolific lot, having a total of 325 children between them! William Ellerey of Rhode Island had 17 children; Roger Sherman of Connecticut had 15.

Fifty years after the united colonies declared their independence from Britain, plans were made for jubilant celebrations on July 4, 1826. Only three of the original signers were still alive—Charles Carroll, Thomas Jefferson and John Adams. Here is how Sinclair and McArthur describe what occurred that day:

“In a dramatic climax that even their agile minds would not have contemplated, these two principals in the struggle for Independence left the nation awestricken and touched, by dying hours apart on the Fourth of July. Jefferson died at one o’clock in the afternoon, Adams toward evening.”

Ten days earlier Jefferson had written the mayor of Washington, expressing his regret that ill health prevented him from coming to the nation’s new Capitol to join the festivities.

“I should, indeed, with peculiar delight, have met… with the small band, the remnant of that host of worthies, who joined with us on that day, in the bold and doubtful election we were to make for our country, between the submission or the sword.”

And he concluded by writing, “Let the annual return of this day forever refresh our recollection of these rights, and an undiminished devotion to them.”

As part of that “undiminished devotion,” we are delighted to provide you with a free copy of They Signed For Us. Please click here for it.

And please share this copy of Straight Talk with others you know so they may enjoy it as well. Just forward this column with a short note urging them to read about the incredibly brave patriots who won our freedom for us when They Signed For Us.

Until next time, keep some powder dry.

—Chip Wood

Chip Wood

is the geopolitical editor of PersonalLiberty.com. He is the founder of Soundview Publications, in Atlanta, where he was also the host of an award-winning radio talk show for many years. He was the publisher of several bestselling books, including Crisis Investing by Doug Casey, None Dare Call It Conspiracy by Gary Allen and Larry Abraham and The War on Gold by Anthony Sutton. Chip is well known on the investment conference circuit where he has served as Master of Ceremonies for FreedomFest, The New Orleans Investment Conference, Sovereign Society, and The Atlanta Investment Conference.

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  • Al Sieber

    Now the founding fathers would be considered terrorists by the Dept. of Homeland Security.

    • http://www.truedawnrising.blogspot.com Jerry D

      Sadly, that’s absolutely true. As a matter-of-fact, that’s probably exactly the government’s opinion of all of us who believe as the Founding Fathers.

      • Christin

        That is exactly what the Government and Homeland Security think of every patriotic American… Terrorists. That was no mistake when the pamphlet came out early in this administration by Janet Napalitano (backed up by the WH) stating that veterans, pro-life, religious … (can’t even remember who all they included)… Americans from the Heart Land and Bible Belt were called Terrorists. That was no mistake… we are in the way of THEIR AGENDA to change America.

        The only way I see America recovering is if we pray, repent and put God BACK in every aspect of our American lives. The Bible has revealed our fate… read Revelations.

        • http://PersonLibertyDigest Dee

          It’s the idiots that are in Washington D.C. now that are the terrorists. They want to ruin this country or take complete control of it. Do not let this happen. Vote them out.

        • ashforkdan

          the revolution that took so many lives was well worth it i for one will not let a lying want to be muslim take down the greatest country and most patriotic people of all times for the love of god people lets take back what we fought for and died for this little puke is not going win and he is not anyway a threat to the strongest nation in the world we started this nation under god and now its time to repeat history and show what we are made of

      • Vicki

        It’s certainly what King George and the red coats thought of the founders.

    • Tony

      I am amazed by all the natural disasters we’ve have been experiencing lately, as well as our leaders political disasters. Maybe its our forefathers turning in their graves. It is a travesty what the president is trying to do to the USA.

      • http://none Alex

        Did you ever stop to think that maybe God is as sick of America as so many of us are?

        • JC

          No. I think it’s possible that he has filled our halls of government with evil in order to test us and our resolve to return to civilized ways.

  • http://www.truedawnrising.blogspot.com Jerry D

    Nothing can be added. It’s sad that we don’t have such men standing up for us in Congress today. God bless and thanks for the great article. God bless America.

    • Earl, QUEENS, NY

      Jerry D. I agree with you, but not 100%. We have to remember that there are still some good senators and Congressmen. And we do need more Michelle Bachmans, DeMints, Inhofes, etc. But sadly, they’re outnumbered by the Democrap majority IN D.C., and even some RINOs. The 2010 and 2012 elections are critical. In the primaries, we need to target RINOs and GOP wimps who too often side with Democraps. More importantly, in the general elections, we need to defeat as many democraps as possible, as I believe their party is over 90% responsible for our sick economy and loss of freedom. While some are not as leftwing as others, we need to remember that THERE’S NO SUCH THING AS A CONSERVATIVE IN TODAY’S DEMOCRAP PARTY!!!!!

  • CJ

    It is interesting how, over time, humans forget the true value of actions like our Founding Fathers participated in. We live such a “protected” life style, we loose the significance. When we forget the true cost, we devalue what we have. Over the last 100+ years, the elected has slowly brought back upon us the tyranny we abhored. I only hope we haven’t awakend too late to stop it. I pitty those who are still blinded to the true intent of the progressives. They are NOT our friends.

    • Al Sieber

      Amen.

      • http://www.freedomspitchfork.blogspot.com Freedom’s Voice

        So very true. I think Americans are waking up but I only hope we have awakened in time and in enough numbers to make a difference. I pray to God we have.

        • Earl, QUEENS, NY

          I agree with you, Freedom’s Voice. But it’s a pity that Americans didn’t wake up sooner – prior to the disastrous 11/4/2008 election!! The best thing Americans can do now is start reading sites like this, and listen to conservative talk radio hosts instead being duped by the leftwing Democraps and their allies in the lamestream media!!…..And hopefully voters will be awake enough in 2012 to make 1/20/2013 ‘THE END OF AN ERROR’!!

          • Richard Pawley

            NO, NO, NO! Of course we must vote out who we can in 2012 but if we wait until then it will be two years to late. Only if we can replace most of the 111th Congress in the first week of November in 2010 will we even have a chance of preventing the planned catastrophe for our nation (I say planned because I cannot believe that those in Congress are so ignorant they do not know what they are doing). If we can figure out that the insane spending is going to wreck both the country and the dollar, then surely they can as well). By 2012 we will have a different country from what we have now. If freedom loving Americans don’t rise up to vote out those who would destroy our economy and the dollar by their insane spending of borrowed money will we have a chance of saving the USA we know and love. Already monies squandered by Congress are going to result in food prices and fuel and imported goods tripling in price, not this year, maybe not next, but it cannot be stopped as it takes time to work its way through the system. Congress is trying furiously to cause inflation. So far they have not succeeded BUT THEY WILL. If we can replace most of the 111th Congress this November we will have a chance at slowing this down. Otherwise the words of Ben Franklin will have proved prophetic (when asked by a citizen who saw him come out of the great assembly of new Americans what kind of government had been decided upon, he said, “A Republic, if you can keep it!”). We are in danger of losing it and a restoration to the sound values of the Tea Party Candidates, regardless of party, come this November, is the first step towards a return of the government to the people and away from the 36,000 lobbyists and special interests that have controlled the country for at least 60 years. VOTE THIS NOVEMBER LIKE YOUR LIFE DEPENDED UPON IT, BECAUSE IT MIGHT!

  • Ardie

    What an amazing history lesson! Thank you! As I read it, I experienced pride, tears, and a heart wrenching feeling for what our bold founding fathers went through for their freedom. How far we’ve come from that way of thinking. We need to find our way back and be heard NOW. THANK YOU Tea Party! God bless America!!!

  • William Ludi

    Thankyou for the free download of THEY SIGNED FOR US

  • s c

    Yes, they signed for US. We have a moral contract with the Founders, and we’ve done a pretty miserable job of honoring that contract. As for those who never had any plans for honoring ANY contracts [moral, contractual, business, or any other variety], they’re called progressives, fascists, socialists, communists apostate ‘religious’ and NWO scum.
    Our only hope is in the idea that God will take pity on America, and not let us suffer for many years of ignoring Him and the Founders. NO politician or wannabe “mortal god” can save ANYONE.

    • Richard Pawley

      True, and the answer is daily pray that God works His will in all our lives. Never wish evil even on those who deserve it but if believers will pray, God will answer, changing the hearts of some Congressmen, and taking home others, and defeating others. Always pray that He works His will on all, and in these ever-more-growing troubled times, Washington especially. We cannot expect leaders who are more moral than we are but we can demand ones who believe in our country and in the Constitution they swore to uphold.

  • Delores Smith

    CHIP WOOD,
    Thank you so much for this article. It will give me a more magnificent Fourth of July.
    Delores Smith
    Delores109@cox.net

  • http://AOL Carole Waltrip

    Lovely ! well done.

    It is a shame that our forefathers could not have forseen Obama and the way the peoples of America have forgotten what it took to build this Great Country, and the men and women through the many years who have fought and dies to keep her freedoms. We have so many who demand to much from this country and give nothing back, that is the shame of America and the shame of the Voters wo continue to put That Ole Gang of Mine and people like Obama in the White House and Washington. I pray on this Fourth that the Peoples of America eill stand up in November and clean house of ALL who support Obama and his Socialistic attitude.

    • Vicki

      Our forefathers DID foresee the possibility of an Obama. They wrote the Bill of Rights based on that knowledge. They wrote the natural born requirement into the Constitution based on their knowledge of allegiance, loyalty and humanity.

      Ben Franklin even told a lady when asked what they (the founders) had created “A Republic M’am. If you can keep it”

      They knew. (dramatic pause) They knew.

      • JeffH

        Vicki, very true. The Founders recognized that governments depend on imperfect men, and they worried about the threat of an all-powerful central government, where the few dictate to the many. In 1787, as the Constitutional Convention completed its work to enshrine the principles of the Declaration into law, Ben Franklin famously said the Constitution established “a republic, if you can keep it.”

        The fight to remain free continues today. Today’s progressives are enacting policies that expand government and limit our freedoms.

        Te Declaration of Independence is one the greatest statements of human liberty ever written with its bold statements and timeless truths

        Americans are faced with a new set of “Intolerable acts” — Wall Street bailouts; “stimulus” packages; cap-and-trade legislation; and, perhaps most harmful of all, Obamacare.

        The Founders warned us of this ongoing threat to liberty: Thomas Paine once warned that “the greatest tyrannies are always perpetrated in the name of the noblest causes.”

        Celebrate the 4th of July accordingly and have a happy 4th to all!

        • vicki

          Just for amusement we should reprint the 19 specifics from the Declaration of Independence and compare them to recent government behaviors (Democrat AND Republican)

    • DaveH

      It isn’t just Obama. We can’t let the Republicans off the hook for slowly eroding our rights and building government ever larger. We need to vote out the RINOs now and start fresh. I’m hoping that John McCain will be the first to go. And if Hayworth proves to be a RINO, we need to deal with him later.

      • Palin12

        I hope Lisa Murkowsky will be the first RINO to go.

  • http://herringtons.home.mindspring.com lighterknot

    Liberty and the liberal’s progressive enough to seek it for all men; are in league with the spirit of the founding fathers. Those who refuse to see the reality of the times are not enemies just dragging there feet in nostalgia.
    One thing that sticks out above all else is SACRED HONOR something no man today can clam while condoning weapons of mass destruction. So don’t make me puke with your pseudo allegiance to God and Country.
    It is a good article Chip Wood; we should contemplate with our deepest understanding of their times and the values that are eternal.
    Have a good 4th.

    • Vicki

      Hmm. Weapons of mass destruction. That would be gattling gun, cannon, Catapults, fire brands, fire arrows, horses, colorful history of firecrackers in many sizes. All available and used in warfare in the 1700s.

      The founders were particularly hated by the British for hiding behind trees instead of standing out in neat rows.

      I do not think your definition of sacred honor is accurate.

      • JeffH

        Vicki, there is no honor amongst those that don’t cherish their freedoms.

        • vicki

          Agreed.

  • Airangel

    Churchill was quoted “a lie makes it halfway around the world before the truth puts its shoes on in the morning.” We have to have the courage to debunk all the lies being told to the people and somehow share the truth about candidates before the November elections and reclaim our Independence. With God’s mercy we can.

    Let us restore our freedoms and God’s blessings upon us

    • Vicki

      Use facebook and twitter (and others) to bypass the MSM and follow (or lead) the candidates we are looking for. The internet and social networks are how we defeat the MSM and lying politicians.

  • Charlie Denger

    The incarnates of our ” Founders ” are being summoned today. It
    will take men and women of similar courage and commitment to implement
    drastic changes to turn our country around – to the Creator and the
    Constitution.

    Check out GOOOH. Read Tim Cox’s, the founder, ” The GOOOH Revolution. Join and help save our country. With the spirit of the
    ” Founders ” it can happen.

  • JC

    Further to this wonderful article here is a Story of the Star Spangled Banner.
    It demonstrates quite clearly the resolve of the Patriots who won us our Republic and our Freedom, the story of Patriots who paid in blood for what we have (collectively) allowed to be frittered away by money changers, progressives and globalists.

    I hope you’ll take a minute and listen and maybe play this for your children or grandchildren and tell them what it really means to be an American.

    Keep your powder dry.

    http://en.sevenload.com/videos/mn6Iwpn-The-Story-Behind-the-Star-Spangled-Banner

  • Jud

    Great article, every American should read. I’m passing it on to my email list. Ask a child today about this and I doubt they can answer you. That is progressive education, erase America History and glorify Europe History of bloodshed and murder of innocent people. History repeats itself if we didn’t learn from the past.

  • ONTIME

    I wish all who see this a Great 4th of July…..

    I wish and hope that all who see this will remember who we are and how we came to all be Americans, our history, tradition and determination is a result of those men who were willing to put it all on the line to gain the liberty and practice the freedoms that to many have taken for granted….God Bless this country and all it stands for.

    • ashforkdan

      I wonder where barry will be on the fourth playing golf or basketball i’m sure it wont be celibraiting our independence

  • Kerry

    It is a shame that we have aloud this great Nation to become what it is today. We like to point the finger at others and say it is their fault. But the truth be known, it is the fault of every American for sitting back and not demanding accountability of our elected officials and our courts. I just pray that enough of us will stop being the silent majority and start being the vocal majority.

    As Chip says, God Bless America and keep some powder dry.

    Everyone have a good 4th.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oT-5h-OBgBE Ron Stone

    Wow, why didn’t I learn this in school. Maybe I just forgot but with what’s going on in this country now, I won’t forget again. Thanks for the history lesson.

  • MichelleO

    God Bless you all and God bless America, Have a safe and wonderful 4th of July xoxoxoxoxox

  • Christin

    Great article Chip. I did not get to read it last time as I am a new comer to this site. Thanks for the inspirational history lesson. The Fourth of July will be more meaningful for me and my family when I share this with them. We appreciate the download of the book “They signed for Us.”
    I agree with Ben Franklin, “We must all hang together. Or most assuredly, we shall all hang separately.”
    God Bless.

  • Airangel

    Please keep one of our own POW’s from Idaho in your prayers. He has been a POW now for a year. He was captured by the Taliban last year and is all alone. It’s one thing to have comrades to give you support (strength in numbers) but to be alone in a foreign country with no one is horrible. This young soldier is Bowe Bergdahl. They are dressing him and making him look more like them more and more…God give him and his family strength to endure this. Regardless of lies and deceit or who is in charge, these soldiers are still human and have families and are sacrificing their life, freedoms, health and comfort while in battle. True Bravery, Ultimate service to their country!

    Here is a little about him for anyone that wants to know more about our American POW captured who will not have his independence this weekend.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/07/19/bowe-bergdahl-soldier-cap_n_239930.html

    • Jeronimo Dan

      I’m praying for him.

  • Jud

    We may have to fight a 2nd American Revolution

  • Jeronimo Dan

    It’s a shame we have pulled the wrong guy from the wood pile to guide this great nation! I hope everyone has a safe and great 4th July!

  • chuck b

    our education system has failed our citizens for the last forty years, few teachers have installed this knowledge in the children and consequently they do not have the respect for this country or its founders.
    i don’t see this respect for the country in this present administration, its almost like barry has contempt, the people surrounding him are interested only in the ideology they can promote.
    our technology is what makes this country great and prosperous and barry seems to have an agenda to dismantle our advancement in the field of space exploration such as nasa, when we lose the ability to advance our knowledge then we cave in to a third world country and it looks to me that’s where barry has us headed. i wonder if the founding fathers would set back and let someone destroy this country like barry and his troops are doing, i think not.

  • duggy dugg

    and the bankster vipers wasted no time in setting up the first of the 3 “central” banks with the right and privilege to issue dollars from a private bank as an interest bearing debt at our taxpaying expense !
    #1: “the bank of the united states”
    #2: “SBUS” [second bank of the u s]
    #3″ “the non-federal , non-governmen “fed”

    all 3 , bankster owned cartels with the monopoly franchise to issue money and put us in debt for its repayment plus vig ! ! ! !

  • tennislady

    Chip, Thanks for “They Signed for Us!
    I am 75 yrs, so I learned all this in school! But I clearly forgot the names of all the people. And I want you to know that when I read that, it took me back and made me cry! Thanks again for the book!
    Happy 4th all, and stay safe!

  • Another Voice

    Saddest of all is that less than half of registered voters take the time to go to the polls.

    • ashforkdan

      this november will be the largest number of voter in history trust me

    • George E

      It doesn’t bother me that the uneducated and uninformed don’t vote. Nor does it bother me that people who don’t pay taxes, or who have never served in our military don’t vote.

  • William Lord

    Does this description possible illustrate the difference between liberals who are willing to advance new ideas and take action to address injustice and conservative loyalists who embrace the status quo?

    • JC

      What!?

    • Anthony

      “Liberals take action against injustice,” he says….

      Mister – you obviously haven’t done your homework AT ALL.
      The vote for HR1207, in the House – which included the order to AUDIT THE FED completely – was defeated, with all but 23 LIBERALS (as you put it) voting “against” that House Bill.

      THIS MEANS the Democrats – aka: LIBERALS – have no intention of letting anybody see the FED’s balance sheets, or what they’ve been doing with OUR money for the last 100 years.

      In this day and age – Liberals are also those very same Progressives, that saddled us with a 3rd Central Bank, and the ones who also (in the beginning) who tried to twist the 2nd Continental Congress into making this Country a Monarchy, with a permanent KING.

      I suggest you do some homework before you post such especially pathetic ‘bait’ conversation… We here at Personal Liberty would appreciate a better stab at it.

    • George E

      Just because liberals “mean well” doesn’t mean they “do well.” The phrase “bull in a china shop” comes to mind when I think about the things the liberals have done. In other words, they’ve torn up more than they’ve fixed.

      • libertytrain

        As you always do – you said this so well.

        • George E

          Thank you for your continued encouragement.

  • Born Again American

    I am a 66 year old widow. One of the masses who have sar on our virtue, and our butts, watching out great country being chipped at for years. We were the silent majority as small anti-business minorities destroyed our industrialization; as anti Christians have all but destroyed the Freedom of Religion; as anti gun pacifisists and others have tried to leave us defenseless against enemies both foreign and domestic, calling for a ban on our Second Amendment rights; as our fellow Americans have tried to silence our Freedom of Speech; and those of us who are trying to reverse the socialist/marxist direction that this excuse for a President is trying to force us to follow and accept, know well that we have pushed for vetting of his right to hold office, his impeachment for High Crimes and Misdemeanors, doing everything possible to stop him from signing an Executive Order granting citizenship to the millions of illegal immigrants who are destroying the States individually, and America collectively.

    We know we are marked. We know that if Martial Law is declared, we may be sent to one of the internment camps being readied. And despite that knowledge, we press on with ever greater vigor. Those who wait on the sidelines expecting us to triumph for them, are to be ashamed forever.

  • Raggs

    My bet is….
    obama will celebrate the fourth by doing nothing for this country.

    Oh but wait…. he has already done that!

    • JC

      It isn’t what he is or isn’t doing for this country Raggs, it’s what he is definately doing TO it.
      Have a god 4th.

  • Airangel

    Finally one celeb that has made a profound statement! Long but fast read – PASS THIS ONE ON AND SPREAD THE WORD!

    Robert Hall is the actor who plays the coroner on CSI if you watch that show…his article “I’m 63 and I’m tired” by Robert A. Hall

    I’m 63. Except for one semester in college when jobs were scarce and a six-month period when I was between jobs, but job-hunting every day, I’ve worked, hard, since I was 18. Despite some health challenges, I still put in 50-hour weeks, and haven’t called in sick in seven or eight years. I make a good salary, but I didn’t inherit my job or my income, and I worked to get where I am. Given the economy, there’s no retirement in sight, and I’m tired. Very tired.

    I’m tired of being told that I have to “spread the wealth” to people who don’t have my work ethic. I’m tired of being told the government will take the money I earned, by force if necessary, and give it to people too lazy to earn it.

    I’m tired of being told that I have to pay more taxes to “keep people in their homes.” Sure, if they lost their jobs or got sick, I’m willing to help. But if they bought McMansions at three times the price of our paid-off, $250,000 condo, on one-third of my salary, then let the left-wing Congress-critters who passed Fannie and Freddie and the Community Reinvestment Act that created the bubble help them with their own money.

    I’m tired of being told how bad America is by left-wing millionaires like Michael Moore, George Soros and Hollywood Entertainers who live in luxury because of the opportunities America offers. In thirty years, if they get their way, the United States will have the economy of Zimbabwe, the freedom of the press of China, the crime and violence of Mexico, the tolerance for Christian people of Iran, and the freedom of speech of Venezuela.

    I’m tired of being told that Islam is a “Religion of Peace,” when every day I can read dozens of stories of Muslim men killing their sisters, wives and daughters for their family “honor”; of Muslims rioting over some slight offense; of Muslims murdering Christian and Jews because they aren’t “believers”; of Muslims burning schools for girls; of Muslims stoning teenage rape victims to death for “adultery”; of Muslims mutilating the genitals of little girls; all in the name of Allah, because the Qur’an and Shari’a law tells them to.

    I’m tired of being told that “race doesn’t matter” in the post-racial world of Obama, when it’s all that matters in affirmative action jobs, lower college admission and graduation standards for minorities (harming them the most), government contract set-asides, tolerance for the ghetto culture of violence and fatherless children that hurts minorities more than anyone, and in the appointment of U.S.Senators from Illinois.

    I think it’s very cool that we have a black president and that a black child is doing her homework at the desk where Lincoln wrote the Emancipation Proclamation. I just wish the black president was Condi Rice, or someone who believes more in freedom and the individual and less arrogantly of an all-knowing government.

    I’m tired of a news media that thinks Bush’s fundraising and inaugural expenses were obscene, but that think Obama’s, at triple the cost, were wonderful; that thinks Bush exercising daily was a waste of presidential time, but Obama exercising is a great example for the public to control weight and stress; that picked over every line of Bush’s military records, but never demanded that Kerry release his; that slammed Palin, with two years as governor, for being too inexperienced for VP, but touted Obama with three years as senator as potentially the best president ever. Wonder why people are dropping their subscriptions or switching to Fox News? Get a clue. I didn’t vote for Bush in 2000, but the media and Kerry drove me to his camp in 2004.

    I’m tired of being told that out of “tolerance for other cultures” we must let Saudi Arabia use our oil money to fund mosques and mandrassa Islamic schools to preach hate in America, while no American group is allowed to fund a church, synagogue or religious school in Saudi Arabia to teach love and tolerance.

    I’m tired of being told I must lower my living standard to fight global warming, which no one is allowed to debate. My wife and I live in a two-bedroom apartment and carpool together five miles to our jobs. We also own a three-bedroom condo where our daughter and granddaughter live. Our carbon footprint is about 5% of Al Gore’s, and if you’re greener than Gore, you’re green enough.

    I’m tired of being told that drug addicts have a disease, and I must help support and treat them, and pay for the damage they do. Did a giant germ rush out of a dark alley, grab them, and stuff white powder up their noses while they tried to fight it off? I don’t think Gay people choose to be Gay, but I damn sure think druggies chose to take drugs. And I’m tired of harassment from cool people treating me like a freak when I tell them I never tried marijuana.

    I’m tired of illegal aliens being called “undocumented workers,” especially the ones who aren’t working, but are living on welfare or crime. What’s next? Calling drug dealers, “Undocumented Pharmacists”? And, no, I’m not against Hispanics. Most of them are Catholic, and it’s been a few hundred years since Catholics wanted to kill me for my religion. I’m willing to fast track for citizenship any Hispanic person, who can speak English, doesn’t have a criminal record and who is self-supporting without family on welfare, or who serves honorably for three years in our military…. Those are the citizens we need.

    I’m tired of latte liberals and journalists, who would never wear the uniform of the Republic themselves, or let their entitlement-handicapped kids near a recruiting station, trashing our military. They and their kids can sit at home, never having to make split-second decisions under life and death circumstances, and bad mouth better people than themselves. Do bad things happen in war? You bet. Do our troops sometimes misbehave? Sure. Does this compare with the atrocities that were the policy of our enemies for the last fifty years and still are? Not even close. So here’s the deal. I’ll let myself be subjected to all the humiliation and abuse that was heaped on terrorists at Abu Ghraib or Gitmo, and the critics can let themselves be subject to captivity by the Muslims, who tortured and beheaded Daniel Pearl in Pakistan, or the Muslims who tortured and murdered Marine Lt. Col. William Higgins in Lebanon, or the Muslims who ran the blood-spattered Al Qaeda torture rooms our troops found in Iraq, or the Muslims who cut off the heads of schoolgirls in Indonesia, because the girls were Christian. Then we’ll compare notes. British and American soldiers are the only troops in history that civilians came to for help and handouts, instead of hiding from in fear.

    I’m tired of people telling me that their party has a corner on virtue and the other party has a corner on corruption. Read the papers; bums are bipartisan. And I’m tired of people telling me we need bipartisanship. I live in Illinois , where the “Illinois Combine” of Democrats has worked to loot the public for years. Not to mention the tax cheats in Obama’s cabinet.

    I’m tired of hearing wealthy athletes, entertainers and politicians of both parties talking about innocent mistakes, stupid mistakes or youthful mistakes, when we all know they think their only mistake was getting caught. I’m tired of people with a sense of entitlement, rich or poor.

    Speaking of poor, I’m tired of hearing people with air-conditioned homes, color TVs and two cars called poor. The majority of Americans didn’t have that in 1970, but we didn’t know we were “poor.” The poverty pimps have to keep changing the definition of poor to keep the dollars flowing.

    I’m real tired of people who don’t take responsibility for their lives and actions. I’m tired of hearing them blame the government, or discrimination or big-whatever for their problems.

    Yes, I’m damn tired. But I’m also glad to be 63. Because, mostly, I’m not going to have to see the world these people are making. I’m just sorry for my granddaughter.

    Robert A. Hall is a Marine Vietnam veteran who served five terms in the Massachusetts State Senate.

    • William Lord

      Its a good thing we have sites like this that function as psychodrama. All the real or imagined evils (caused by those of different values) can be attacked as the cause of all we dislike. No need to debate or show facts or pretend any semblance of fair mindedness. The other side is completely wrong on everything. Better than a feel good hollywood movie or TV show to expose the villans. I am sure the founding fathers would be proud.

      • Anthony

        He may have left out the damage done by Bush’s Patriot Act(s) …. but, he is NOT WRONG with the facts that he has pointed out. I say too bad, if it inconveniences you to read about it here. It is the factual truth – if you care to google it up, that is.

        For every Bush Hater – there is an Obama Lover — trouble with that is, most absolutely NEVER READ the Executive Orders of their beloved President. I wonder if it would alter your perceptions any, pending you were to take a moment to do so, yourself.

      • JeffH

        William Lord, yes the founding fathers would be proud, proud because they paved the way for freedom of speech to voice our “biased or un-biased” opinions and to be allowed to disagree just as you have without fear of recourse from our government. I think they can stand tall and proud, don’t you?

      • JC

        Just another Liberal trying to belittle Americanism and Patriots in general.

      • http://naver samurai

        I don’t know if you’ve drank too much kool aid or have smoked too much liberal crack, but it seems to have fried your brains. Our founding fathers set up this country to be a beacon of freedoms light for the world to see. To make sure that these bad things didn’t happen to this country, they set up a system of checks and balances and wrote The Bill of Rights. The first 10 Amendments to the Constitution. Obama bin Laden has tried his best to destroy and/or warp the U.S. Constitution, especially the 1st, 2nd, and 10th Amendments to our Constitution. They knew that something like this was possible, but hoped it wouldn’t happen. Let’s get back down the road of freedom and prosperity! FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

    • ashforkdan

      THANK YOU VERY WELL PUT I TOO AM VERY TIRED

    • Claire

      Airangel–I did not realize you were in Illinois. I am too and yes, I am tired of the same things that you are. Good post.

    • George E

      Airangel,

      Thanks for sharing your thoughts on these very important issues. I wholeheartedly agree with you on all points. However, I am hesitant to fast track illegal immigrants to citizenship if they are found in this country illegally. I just don’t think we ought to ever reward illegal behavior because it will just incentivize more to come here illegally. If we feel we can’t deport them for some humane reason, then we can always give them a visa that allows them to stay here so long as they obey our laws, etc. Giving these people citizenship allows them to vote, and that’s not something we should do. The only exception to this, I think, are for persons who honorably serve in our military. I’d bend over backwards to help them, but even that should have its limits.

    • Kinetic1

      This op-ed piece is the work of retired U.S. Marine and former Massachusetts state senator Robert A. Hall, who published it on his blog on Feb. 19, 2009. It is NOT the work of the actor, Robert D. Hall who plays the coroner on CSI: Crime Scene Investigation.

  • Claire

    At this time, I would like to take the opportunity to wish all of you and your families a safe and very happy 4th of July. In many ways, all of you have touched my life and my thoughts. Even though I do not know your names or necessarily where you live, I do feel like I know most of you as a friend, as a comrade, someone to talk to and discuss the troubles of the world, and as a partner in the goal of keeping America free and safe from harm. We may disagree on numerous issues and that is okay, we have freedom of speech and we must keep it. To me this holiday has a different meaning this year–because of our brave soldiers in desolate countries that need to be brought home, for all the dissent in America, for the disillusionment our government has created, and for the time that the government has wasted in doing nonsensensical things. Time is precious and it slips by quickly and once a wrong has been done, in many cases there is no turning back. I wish this administration would realize this factor. We must make each day count and live life to its fullest and enjoy what we have. Enjoy our families, enjoy America in spite of all the problems, when you see the Statue of Liberty in a picture, on TV, or in person, remember what she stands for—Liberty. And the pursuit of happiness. God bless all of you.

    • Claire

      Here I speak from the heart–and I spelled “nonsensical” incorrectly. Sorry about this, but I mean every word I said in my post.

    • JeffH

      Claire, very well said and I’m happy as well to have met you and all of you great Americans here. Thanks as well to Bob Livingston and his support for providing this avenue to keep us all with the thought of life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness and freedom in a free America.

      • libertytrain

        Jeff and Claire thanks to both of you and Bob Livingston and we sure are fortunate to have this gathering spot to share our thoughts — Claire – I’m still up the road from you a piece right now – haven’t been able to go back down South just yet —

        • Claire

          libertytrain– I sincerely hope and pray all is going well for your Dad. Take care of yourself too!

    • George E

      Claire,

      Thanks for your heart-felt thoughts and best wishes. It’s been my pleasure to dialogue with you and others on this site as well.

      It’s obvious to me that many of us still share many of the values of our Founding Fathers, and that’s reassuring for the future success of our country. Nothing focuses the mind like adversity, and I can see that many of us are now focused on what we need to do this November and going forward. First and foremost that means stopping the Progressive freight train with their big government, feel good, smoke and mirrors, social and economic policies. Let’s get back to basics and fundamentals laid out in the original Constitution.

      Have a great 4th of July holiday.

  • ABinGA

    Printed a copy to read to my children and grandchildren on the Fourth of July. My children, one in the Army and one has two more years to go at Virginia Military Institute before he commisions happen to be home this weekend. They know about freedom. But my grand kids are young and in the public school system so we’ve got a lot of work to do make sure they know the truth.

  • JeffH

    SIGN THE PETITION TO IMPEACH OBAMA

    Resolved, that Barack Hussein Obama, President of the United States, is impeached for high crimes and misdemeanors, and that the following articles of impeachment be exhibited to the United States Senate:

    Articles of impeachment exhibited by the House of Representatives of the United States of America in the name of itself and of the people of the United States of America, against Barack Hussein Obama, President of the United States of America, in maintenance and support of its impeachment against him for high crimes and misdemeanors.

    http://www.c4strategies.com/articlesofimpeachment.html

    • Palin12

      Thanks Jeff, I signed it. They should also include Obummer has failed to protect America against all enemies, foreign and domestic, by refusing to protect our border with Mexico, and in not doing so, has allowed murderers, kidnappers, and drug runners to invade our country.

  • Anthony

    Thank you for your charity, Chip.

    I will share it with every one of my email contacts.

    I sent Personal Liberty an email on a rather interesting suggestion … have you had that shared with you yet?

    Happy 4th of July, everyone!

  • http://www.charter.net James A Graham

    Thought you might find this interesting!

    Message From Grand Isle, Louisiana

    I witnessed something yesterday I wanted to share with my friends. It was disappointing to say the least but not at all surprising. As most know, no, as all know I am slightly literally challenged and do not write a letter that will ever get me recognized as a witty author or overly educated person but I think I usually get my message across. By the way kids stay in school and pay attention in English so you do not have this problem and also thank God for spell check. Back to my point, I was in Grand Isle yesterday when we were visited by our president. As a lot know our street has about a dozen camps, one permanent resident, on it and yesterday we had a fair crowd of people. The first incident that was brought to my attention was four bus loads of, I guess you could call them workers, was spotted at the Bridge Side marina and looked as if they had come from New Orleans and not the most desirable workers if you get my drift. For you that do not know Bridge Side is the first marina coming onto Grand Isle and this is where the buses stopped and the WORKERS got off. I later witnessed not four but five buses pass our street on Hwy 1 going to the end of the island our president was to visit. I made a statement to my neighbors they were probably going to stage a senerio where a large amount of people were working on our oil spill problem and guess what, I was right. Liz and I witnessed this on one of the specials when I got home and a large number of men had rakes and were dressed in white hazardous suits working on the beach. No one has seen these guys before yesterday and no one can find them now. I was told WWL is getting question after question about this today, go figure our leader not being truthful and staging something like this.

    The next thing I really found astonishing was no one cared that he was on the island. I later saw 38 cops on motorcycles, yes I did count them, and many other police vehicles escort what I am sure was the president in his motorcade of black suburbans. I was told he landed in Fouchon, about 10 miles from Grand Isle, then was brought to Grand Isle in the motorcade. I did see his helicopter and the escorts fly north of us to meet him at the Coast Guard facility were he spoke. My point is when he went down hwy 1 not one person made an attempt to see him. There was no one taking pictures, no one even looking in his direction, no one lining the streets and waving flags, no one cared. I really think if that had of been any of our prior presidents, even Clinton, an attempt would have been made to be along the side of the road and cheer or wave. It is really sad that this country is being run by a man no one likes or has any respect for. God help us get through the change.

    John Munnerlyn, a friend of Grand Isle

    • George E

      Thanks for sharing this observation. I can’t say that I’m surprised one bit. Obama and his millionaire supporters have organized demonstrations like this many times over the past . Just more “smoke and mirrors” to get the masses to think he’s really concerned about the welfare of the country. It’s just a professional marketing job, or some might say, propaganda campaign…..It’s no wonder so many citizens are so cynical about our government now. You don’t know who to trust any more.

  • http://www.charter.net James A Graham

    Ah, sorry to bother you Mr. Obama, Sir. . …

    Excuse me Mr. Obama, I mean President Obama, Sir. Um . . I know you’re busy, and important and stuff. I mean, running the country is very important and — ah — I hate to bother you, Sir. I will only take a minute. Ok, Sir?

    See, I have these missing pieces that are holding me up, and I was wondering, Sir, if you could take time out of your busy schedule and help me out. You know, no big deal, just some loose ends and things.

    Hey, you have a nice place here! The wife sees houses like this on TV all the time and says, boy, she wishes she had digs like this, you know? Is that painting real? Really? Wow!
    I saw something like that in a museum once.
    Oh, sorry Sir. I didn’t mean to get off the track.

    So if you could just help me out a minute and give me some details, I will get right out of your way. I want to close this case and maybe take the wife to Coney Island or something. Ever been to Coney Island Sir? No? I didn’t think so…

    Well, listen, anyway, I can’t seem to get some information I need to wrap this up. These things seem to either be “Not released” or “Not available.” I’m sure it’s just an oversight or glitch or something, so if you could you tell me where these things are I have them written down here somewhere — oh wait. I’ll just read it to you.

    Could you please help me find these things, Sir?

    1. Occidental College records — Not released
    2. Columbia College records — Not released
    3. Columbia Thesis paper — “Not available”
    4. Harvard College records — Not released
    5. Selective Service Registration — Not released
    6. Medical records — Not released
    7. Illinois State Senate schedule — Not available
    8. Your Illinois State Senate records — Not available
    9. Law practice client list — Not released
    10. Certified Copy of original Birth certificate — Not released
    11. Embossed, signed paper Certification of Live Birth — Not released
    12. Record of your baptism — Not available

    13. Why your wife, Michelle, can no longer practice law as an attorney? (Insurance Fraud?_

    14. Why your wife has 22 assistants, when other First Ladies had one?

    15. Why were you getting “foreign student aid” as a college student?

    16. Which countries “passport” did you have when you visited Pakistan in 1981?

    Oh and one more thing Mr. President, I can’t seem to find any articles you published as editor of the Harvard Law Review, or as a Professor at the University of Chicago. Can you explain that to me, Sir?

    Oh, but hey — listen! I know you’re busy! If this is too much for you right now — I mean — tell you what. I’ll come back tomorrow. Give you some time to get these things together, you know? I mean, I know you’re busy. I’ll just let myself out. I’ll be back tomorrow. And the day after. . …
    What’s that Mr. President? Who wants to know these things?
    We the People of the United States of America ! You know, the ones that vote.

    SEND THIS OUT TO ALL YOUR FRIENDS…..
    I (WE) WANT TO KNOW

    • JC

      Sent to many…

    • Normal Guy

      Well if I wanted towaste my time I could address all your idiotic points but one should do. In regard to the Harvard Law Review.

      “Obama’s article addressed only the narrow question of whether a fetus could sue its mother for negligence. He didn’t take on the broader question of the fetus’s personhood, or whether it could sue others.

      He described cases “involving maternal activities that might be considered intentional or reckless infliction of prenatal injuries on the fetus” as “more difficult,” though he wrote that as a matter of encouraging good maternal behavior, giving fetuses the right to sue their mothers remained “ill-conceived.”

      Fetal rights is, as Obama acknowledged, a charged issue largely because of its connection to the abortion debate. That’s a question Obama touched in passing, and from both sides, in his article.

      On one hand, he warned that allowing fetuses to sue their mothers could actually lead to more abortions.

      “Imposing civil liability on mothers may be as likely to deter the carrying of pregnancies to term as to deter maternal negligence during pregnancy,” he wrote.

      He was also acutely sensitive to women’s rights, and to the consequences of involving civil law in childbearing.

      “Fetal-maternal tort suits might entail far more intrusive scrutiny of a woman’s behavior than the scrutiny involved in the discrete regulation of the abortion decision,” he wrote. “On the other hand, the state may also have a more compelling interest in ensuring that fetuses carried to term do not suffer from debilitating injuries than it does in ensuring that any particular fetus is born.”

      Obama’s article, which begins on page 823 of Volume 103 of the Harvard Law Review, is available in libraries and subscription-only legal databases.”

      The founding fathers were educated rational men who disagreed on many points but were able to compromuise and find agreement on Madison’s constitution.

      You and the other fear filled reactionary’s on this thread would have disappointed them beyond belief. Ignorance and rumour, baseless accuasations and weak minded rhetoric. Pitiful.

      • George E

        Obviously, it’s irrational fear on our part to wonder why Obama won’t release copies of all these documents, isn’t it? I don’t suppose we should worry that our President might be hiding something important from us, should we? Of course not. We shouldn’t worry our little uneducated minds with such matters. We just need to fall into submission and let our big brother government lead the way………….like lambs to the slaughter? After all, they really do know what’s best for us………….ugh!

        • Normal Guy

          Ahh George…

          The point is you don’t have a clue. Care to comment on the “Obama’s article, which begins on page 823 of Volume 103 of the Harvard Law Review” that disproves just one of your all disprovable list.

          Go do some research and show the proof of your points, they aren’t proven by you or anyone just fabricated to fit twisted conspiracy theories – oh by the way, isn’t gold supposed to be the only remaining currency now that we have all gone through Zimbabwe inflation. Good thing you have your guns and ammo – Bilderberg – Illuminati, Rothberg’s with alien DNA…WOW

          What you guys believe is something only a shrink would understand. Are most on medication? What do you take for delusional & paranoid?

          • Claire

            Normal Guy: Personally, I am not on medication of any kind. I am not a pill popper and I rarely have a headache. Life has been good to me so far regarding the taking of medications. I am one of the fortunate ones. Are you on any medication?
            You asked what do people take for their delusional and paranoid behavior–I do not consider myself and most of the others on this site to be delusional and paranoid. I consider this site to be a tool so that people can express their opinions freely. We all have freedom of speech, and we certainly will not agree with one another on various issues. Some go over the top, but so what? Are you so in control of yourself that you never get aggravated? Whether people are devout Democrat or Republican, it all comes down to the fact that we have the freedom to choose in whatever we believe in. You have to admit we are living in a topsy turvy and frustrated world, do you ever stop and think about what has caused these problems? People express themselves in various ways, and I will not point a finger at someone else. I speak for myself when I say I am thoroughly exasperated with the way this administration has handled the oil spill. They should have accepted all the help we could get and IMMEDIATELY when it was offered. BP and this administration did not do their job like it should have been handled. BP did not have the proper equipment, and this administration lagged. Now we will all suffer for this lack of consideration for the outcome of this tragedy. And it is a tragedy–loss of tourism that the businesses rely on, loss of life, loss of the ability to make a living, loss of the environment and marine life. I am a believer that human beings can take care of themselves one way or another. We are resilient. But the well-being of the environment and the safety for wildlife is at the mercy of human beings. It has always been this way. You can call me paranoid and delusional, whatever, but I stand by my beliefs. I try to look at issues realistically, and logically, but some of these issues we are dealing with and the way they were handled is the straw that broke the camels back. The economy should have been first and foremost, and it should have been dealt with before anything else and worked at until such time it proved to be on an even keel. The health reform bill could have waited. They rushed things through without thought for the consequences. Enough is enough. I am tired of the same old business as usual. They all play the political game. It is a crucial matter in doing what is correct, especially for the welfare of America. It is time for this administration to literally get to work–all of them–stop playing politics and get this oil mess taken care of, I just cannot fathom the damage that has been caused.
            The illegals should be sent back to Mexico or wherever they came from. We cannot continue to support them. America has run out of money, and room. We cannot take on the entire world. Another item, we cannot continue to send money to other countries when we cannot take care of business here in America. If we have it to give, fine, but if we are broke, forget it. To me, during this time of disruption in America, we must take care of America first. Sure, I care about other people, but I believe in taking care of business here in America and Americans first.
            And by the way, I voted for Obama. He promised the moon and the stars and I fell for it. I thought we would have change–for the better– instead it has turned into another political scheme. I am tired of schemes. He has the gift of gab, and he surrounded himself with people that I do not care for. At my age I should have known better and I should have done my research.
            I am thoroughly disgusted with this administration, Holder, Gibbs, Geithner, Reid, Pelosi, and a few others leave a lot to be desired. I am disappointed to say the least. To me, Obama is not the president, it appears someone else is. He appears to be just a “speaker.” But the sad fact is that a lot of Americans aren’t listening to him anymore. I don’t. He says the same things over and over again. Nothing is new. I am to the point that I do not want to hear anything he has to say, because I don’t believe it anymore. I don’t believe or trust anything that comes out of their mouths.
            I have said my piece, so now according to your standards, I guess I am paranoid and delusional, if so, then so be it.

          • Claire

            Normal Guy–I am not through with you yet. Another item, what about the war? Obama promised during his campaign that he would have our soldiers out in 17-18 months, instead he sent more troops. I realize the Republicans were in favor of this too. But what has this war accompished? Nothing but loss of life, and a contributing factor to the debt. Iraq and Afghanistan will revert to their old ways when we do pull out. These countries have fought amongst themselves for centuries-they won’t stop. It just goes on and on. It is not worth it. Remember Viet Nam. Is this going to be a repeat?

          • George E

            Claire,

            Words of wisdom. Thank you patriot.

          • George E

            Normal Guy,

            If wanting answers to important questions makes me dilusional and paranoid, then so be it. However, I believe a more rational assessment is that those who don’t demand answers are nieve.

          • JC

            Slither back under your rock abnormal moron. This thread is to honor our founders. There is no place for you here.
            (or anywhere on American soil for that matter)

        • Normal Guy

          To all of the above

          Claire, I appreciate that you think this is about free speech, expressing opinions based of fantasy and fabrication is by definition delusion. You are absolutely free to have your opinions and to voice your displeasure with the administration, I support you without reservation. I don’t agree with government much of the time, I have faith in the system and I don’t need wild delusion to motivate me to act, to support what I believe in and work towards making it happen. That is what is great about America, I can pursue my beliefs and goals unfettered by tyranny.

          You have every right to disagree and to advocate change, the problem I have is the ridiculous statements, the lies and unfounded accusations, the hate and the ignorance that is displayed so proudly on this site. The calls to violence and the unpatriotic attitude that breaking this country apart could ever be justified, the throwback beliefs that carry over from the civil war with its prejudice and injustice towards African Americans.

          Most on this site aren’t patriots most make it clear that they hate America the real America that we have all lived our lives in and love a fabricated fantasy of this country based on ill informed opinions conspiracies regarding one world order etc and misinterpretations of the constitution and the founding fathers vision for a free and just nation.

          In regard to some facts, the wars are a disaster, the idea that untangling us from this Bush doctrine disaster is simplistic. We have to get out but creating a void in the region will trigger lots of other problems. Do you think that the war was triggered by anything other than oil interests in the region? Oil prices are now high enough to bring on-line sources that were never economical before – like the tar sands in Canada – that have weakened the grip that OPEC has on supply.

          This economic disaster that dragged in the entire world was entirely of Bush and companies making, the collapse happened before Obama was even in office. The solutions are difficult to say the least, the entire world is struggling with the solution – none of them blame Obama – that is an right wing American thing. In my opinion the world just avoided a complete depression. A depression that would have been triggered by the politics, policies and actions of the W Bush administration, eight years of bubbles and borrowing a trillion dollars a year during a period of an overheating economy ($500 billion a year current account deficit – $500 billion a year in fiscal deficit)

          The oil spill is a disaster as a result of inadequate regulation and preparation for decades not because of this administration “drill baby drill”. The illegal’s – a problem that has existed for decades, explain how it can be solved? Just saying send them all back seems a bit simplistic, should everyone in this country have to carry papers, and be subject to police questioning because they “look” alien? Not an idea I would support, one the founders were certainly against.

          Again anyone want to commen t on the published paper in the Harvard law review that all you right wing zealots keep saying Obama was not the editor of? You know the one that I have referenced twice “Obama’s article, which begins on page 823 of Volume 103 of the Harvard Law Review” Anyone want to postr some actually researched information on the other lame claims made in Goergie’s post?

          In closing I will repeat on this independence day – The founding fathers were educated rational men who disagreed on many points but were able to compromise and find agreement on Madison’s constitution.
          You and the other fear filled reactionary’s on this thread would have disappointed them beyond belief. Ignorance and rumour, baseless accusations and weak minded rhetoric. Pitiful!!!

          • George E

            Normal,

            If you’re referring to my “lame claims”, I’d sure like to know what I said that you think is lame. All I said was that I thought it was rational to want answers to serious questions like some of those listed by another contributor here. Please be specific if you really want to engage in a serious discussion of the issues……..

            Regarding the article you say Obama wrote, I do have personal doubts whether he actually did write this article. However, if he did, good for him. We can take that issue off the table. Nevertheless, that still leaves many, many questions to be answered by Obama, in my opinion.

          • Normal Guy

            Sorry George

            Should have been directed at the baseless comments made by James A Graham.

          • Claire

            Normal Guy–I do not appreciate being called a right-wing zealot. I do not consider myself to be a radical or a fanatic, but since you apparently believe I am, then you no doubt are a left-wing zealot. Tyranny? I am the last person for you to accuse of tyranny. I have never wished harm upon America or any administration. Faith and trust in government? No, I do not have much faith or trust in any administration. With this present administration, look and hear all that is going on around you and you expect me to follow blindly? No way. You are correct in what you have said about past administrations causing the problems of today, however I include the Democrats as well as the Republicans. These problems were never one-sided.
            Baseless accusations? I regard the oil spill as a disaster that never should have happened. I believe my reasons for this statement is clear and accurate. Just because I have stated that this administration and BP were both at fault, does this make me a liar? They both contributed to this ongoing tragedy. And nothing you or anyone else will change my mind on this. You see, I can be just as stubborn as you about issues.
            Weak-minded rhetoric? I do not appreciate being called weak–in brain or in body. I suggest you take a good look at yourself. You are not perfect.
            Fear-filled reactionary? No, I am not filled with fear. I am not filled with hate, either. I have enough common sense to know that this administration plays the political card just like all the others. Of course, I am concerned for the future. Aren’t you?
            Ignorance? You apparently think very highly of yourself. Good. I think highly of myself, and I do not appreciate being called ignorant. Just because I do not agree with your summation of Obama and his administration does not make me ignorant. It is called a difference in opinion.
            I have never wished ill upon America, Obama, Bush, or any president. Nor have I ever called them filthy names. I suggest you think twice before you accuse me of being unpatriotic, ignorant, tyrannical, weak-minded, and a liar.
            Pitiful?? Perhaps you should examine your own behavior.

  • airangel

    I am happy I joined the Livingston email network and have a chance to feel and know there are many Americans just as frustrated as me yet have that same determination and perserverance that makes America still the greatest country over others….I sent this out to my whole work community (not supposed to but I was just feeling so Patriotic that my brother made it back safely Sunday from Afghan)….call it nostalgia, call it a little bit rebel and a little bit Stars and Stripes…anyway, I was actually thanked by my co-workers and they also said they would share with their families this weekend…a good feeling to get that sort of feedback…Like Claire mentioned, this Independence weekend has more meaning for me than others. I will cherish it and pray there will be many more. God Bless and keep us in his care. Stay safe, Stay strong and keep the faith!

    Thanks again Chip for the inspiration and reminder!

    • JeffH

      airangel, give your brother a big THANK YOU for me and God Bless…enjoy!

    • George E

      Airangel,

      That’s a wonderful story. Please give your brother my thanks for his service to our country, and my best wishes for a great 4th of July weekend.

  • ABinGA

    All of ya’ll have a good and safe Fourth of July. Fly your flag proudly. I agree with some of your posts as far as this one (Independance Day) having more meaning than others. Almost makes you want to cry.

  • http://herringtons.home.mindspring.com lighterknot

    If words have no meaning then why not piss on the constitution? It’s meaningless unless we give words meaning. In epistemology there is a general consensus; knowledge has no base with out a rational language.
    Vicki you are right even the jawbone of an ass can be indiscriminate in the hands of a blind man. Our country likewise was doomed the moment we stood behind trees and fought like cowards which has been MAGNIFIED to standing behind atomic bombs and being dishonorable cowards or collective dinosaurs (nations) in a savage struggle that renders individuals cannon fodder. We don’t have sense enough to deal with these weapons – CONDONING THEM MAKES A WORLD GOVERNMENT NECESSARY.
    Sacred Honor define it for me; to me it’s every mans autonomy. A right to think, believe and express in a civil manner what he thinks to be true and relevant. That honor must be defended by a set of rules governing a one on one relationship which our founders defended by dueling; and as I’ve said before the first and primary stand of vigilance for individual rights and freedoms. We can’t be free without law and a government that honors it for all its citizens.
    If you intend to overthrow this government by impeachment you best clean up the previous governments with their just due and prepare to establish some semblance of individual honor. I can see anarchy spreading like wild fire to come to the same end.
    And keep in mind; one little accident with weapons of mass destruction (and everyone knows what they are) like the oil spill that couldn’t happen will put survivors if any back in the cave to deal with brute force.
    Now if you believe in brute force as the true and divine law of god’s nature and not the rational of government enforced laws then you deserve a cave.

    • ashforkdan

      you have got to be the biggest moron i have every not wanted to read thanks for your spew and ignorance i think i need to vomit now

    • George E

      A “one world government” is a formula for the ultimate in tyranny over the people, and loss of personal liberties. You think your voice is lost on government now. Wait until there is a one world government. Your faith in big government solving all of our problems is ill placed. The US federal government can’t get out of their own way now because they are too large with too many different agencies, all costing the tax payers billions of dollars. No sir, we need smaller government with more local citizen involvement to stimulate more creative solutions to our perplexing problems.

    • Vicki

      lighterknot writes:
      “If you intend to overthrow this government by impeachment you best clean up the previous governments”

      We did. We threw king George out.

  • http://GOGGLE vaksal

    thank you chip for such a moving artical,for love of freedom,these men and their families,offered all,on the alter of providence,for they must have believed that the divine almighty was for their cause,moral leaders,happy 4th of july everyone,and thanks again,good sir.

  • Decker

    Chip could have left out the final box — the ammo box. It’s troubling to read that people are even contemplating or implying such violence within our borders and among our own countrymen and -women. Step back from the brink, Chip and all others for the sake of your neighbors, your family and fellow Americans.

    • JeffH

      Decker, I disagree. No ammo box means empty arms which is what the liberals and Obamanites envison in their quest to “fundamentaly change” America. Remember that “A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.” To remove the ammo box would be the same as removing the intent of the Second Amendment to the United States Constitution.

      • JeffH

        …removal of the “ammo box” would be an infringment on our 2nd Amendment rights.

        • Decker

          It’s not a Constitutional reason for me. I just don’t understand the implied threat of violence against fellow Americans. And he should be ashamed of himself. On the Fourth of July weekend, yet.

          • JeffH

            Decker, there is nowhere mention of a threat of violence, implied or otherwise, by Chip…perhaps you should re-read and re-think your response to the article. FYI, Chip Woods always finishes his articles with “Until next time, keep some powder dry” which in no way advocates any “threat of violence”. Just chill dude…enjoy the fourth as you should.

          • libertytrain

            Decker – Jeff is correct – have yourself a nice cold beer and chill as we celebrate our country’s birthday….

          • George E

            Decker,

            Why don’t you just ask Chip what he means by that statement (“keep some powder dry”)? One could interpret it in several ways, but Chip is the only one who really knows what he is trying to say.

          • JeffH

            Keep your powder dry or keep some powder dry means to be prepared and save your resources until they are needed.

        • Vicki

          Though I often mention here that there are 4 boxes we were given by our founding fathers to protect liberty and I usually say there is a proper order to their use I will say that coming for the 4th box is a clear and present danger to liberty.

          So far we have been able to defend (not always well) the 4th box with the other 3. I pray that we continue to be able to do so. The recent rulings in the Supreme Court greatly strengthen our ability to use the 3rd box (Jury).
          Anytime we are on a Jury where the charge of possession of a firearm is (one of ) the crime we must vote not guilty on that charge.

          For a truly free people the possession of things can never be a crime. The action of mis-use can be the only behavior that a free society can condemn.

  • Marcus

    Hi, what do you guys think about this?? The NWO wants us alone and undefended. We need to stop being overwhelmed and start building from the ground up. Remember that a strong family comes first. Build up your food, energy, and defensive resources. Next strong community, get out and share your strengths with your neighbors, build each other up. The NWO doesn’t have enough people to defeat us if we stand together, and the military and police won’t want to take on a strong community. Then build community relations between each other. Then start working on the states taking control of themselves again. Then start working on the federal government. The states should start their own banks to take control back from the FED and start sponsoring small farmers and businesses again. The states need to break up the National Guard Bureau and regain control of their military. Hold onto federal tax receipts, and pay the FED only for legitimate costs. There’s a lot that we can do, but it starts with the family.

    Thanks for listening, Marcus

    • JC

      A good start, for sure.

  • mehoward

    WE HERE IN AMERICA HAVE GROWN FAT AND LAZY. WE HAVE NEVER HAD TO SACRIFICED ANYTHING. HOW MANY OF US WOULD SIGN A DOCUMENT THAT WE KNEW WOULD SURELY PUT US IN JAIL OR EVEN WORSE COST US OUR LIVES.
    OUR FOREFATHERS DID NOT LET US DOWN BUT I FEAR THAT WE HAVE LET THEM
    DOWN. IF YOU LOVE THIS COUNTRY GO OUT AND CELEBRATE THIS ANNIVERSARY
    LIKE YOU HAVE NEVER DONE BEFORE AND STAND AND BE COUNTED WHEN THE CHIPS ARE DOWN. GOD BLESS THIS WONDERFUL COUNTRY AND LONG MAY SHE LIVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!MEHPENSACOLA,FL

  • Claire

    Airangel–What do you think about Kirk? I was going to vote for him but since he said all those lies about his miltary service and winning a military award, I have my doubts. I believe if anyone lies about an issue as important as the military, they will lie about anything.

  • JC

    “The unanimous Declaration of the thirteen united States of America,

    When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature’s God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

    We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.— That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.— Such has been the patient sufferance of these Colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government. The history of the present King of Great Britain is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States. To prove this, let Facts be submitted to a candid world. …”
    – Declaration of Independence
    Source: Declaration of Independence, IN CONGRESS, July 4, 1776.

  • jopa

    I often wondered that also.What Americans are you people going to kill first with those full ammo boxes and dry powder. Are you going to Washington or are you going to Arizona and practice on illegsl aliens.So many unanswered questions.Or are all these comments some radical or sick figures of speech.Threatening your fellow Americans on the Fourth of July is pretty sick, or at any time.

    • George E

      Jopa,

      I find your comments both amusing and concerning. I’m amused because I can imagine that you probably don’t understand these people. I’m concerned because you apparently have taken their comments literally. Let me assure you that they are not criminals or brute killers. Regardless what you’ve been led to believe in the mass media, these are the people that serve in our military, police, and firefighting units. These are the people who serve to protect Americans, including you and I, against harm. You need not be afraid of them unless you break our laws. Then you’ll find out they believe in practicing “tough love”. They want criminals to know it doesn’t pay to break our laws. This is one of the ways we maintain a civil society.

    • http://GOGGLE vaksal

      jopa,why is it that sick people like you try and distort a very well written article,into something sinister? quit trying to bring shame on the very history of this nation,and guess what,a hard cold fact of life,read the (UNTIED STATES CONSTITUTION)and read the 2nd amendment,and guess what they arent talking about letting anyone without the right to bear arms and guess what that means bullets too.if you cant live with it move to china or south africa,no gun problems there.at least here we can defend every american liberties,if we need too,even yours,so count your self lucky.so jopa please stopa.and think.

  • billy

    jopa, it is always the sick and twisted liberals like yourself that has those sick and twisted thoughts. I would say have a nice 4th but I won’t as I’m sure you’ll be attending an American flag burning ceremony somewhere…you are just one of many of the sick and twisted puppies that needs to be picked up and dealt with by PETA.

    • JC

      billy, jopa is a typically hysterical liberal / progressive who must go to horrific extremism in order to try and make a point that is in and of itself pointless.
      Progressives like her and have lost touch with the principle that the government works “for” the people and that we require secure borders.
      These principles will not be maintained with lollipops and hugs and that is why we as a nation stand at the ready to meet all threats foreign and domestic, that means…keeping your powder dry.

    • Claire

      PETA—Arrrrrghhhh!!

    • Kinetic1

      Why do you say that, billy? I understand that Chip always ends his posts the same, and believe it is a reference to Oliver Cromwell’s “Keep your faith in God, but keep your powder dry.” and that is fine. I understand this to mean that we should remain vigilant and prepared, but I can’t be as forgiving of other comments I have read on this site. How can you suggest that any of us are over reacting when
      sc says;
      “If you don’t know how to handle a weapon, learn. If you don’t have any weapons, get some. If you need advice on what to get, ask questions. And, remember there are many kinds of weapons. Some are just as deadly as any automatic assault rifle.” (Supreme Court Handgun Ban Ruling Stirs Up Controversy)

      and JC says:
      Americans need to once again become a nation of riflemen

      or Jerry BB,
      ” I can’t think of a better persusder than have them (politicians) look down a 12 guage shot gun barrel. A good dose of lead posioning would could and would clean and clear up a lot of things.” (“A Republic—If You Can Keep It”)

      You can’t keep making comments like that and not be seen as violent! If these (and many, MANY more, often worse) comments are made in jest, well they are in poor taste. At least give us a hint that you are not serious about overtaking our government by force.

      • JC

        At least give us a hint that our government is even legitimate, let alone looking out for our interests. (It isn’t either one)
        And what makes you think I’m advocating violence?
        A nation of riflemen should be seen as a nation of hunter’s who are equipped to maintain and enforce their liberties.

  • JeffH

    Well said billy. I believe that PETA is a master of euthanasia and I’m sure jopa supports them.

  • DaveH

    The Great Orator Speaks:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-51oj4vcICE&feature=fvw

    What a bunch of bullpucky.

    • JC

      Absolute Nonsense. The economy is going in the right direction?
      Yeah if you’re trying to destroy America, it is…
      This man should be known as the Liar in Chief,
      but Con Artist in Chief is still more fitting.

      • George E

        Obama is either incompetent or deliberately trying to do harm to this country. I don’t see any other rational conclusion that can be drawn. Time will disclose the truth.

        • JC

          Its deliberate George.

    • Palin12

      I started to watch it, but it was making me sick with all the BS.

  • DaveH

    Powerful Republican Ad:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3PvYGG22N7o

    Too bad I don’t feel they can get the job done. Vote Libertarian for people that can.

  • DaveH
  • chuck b

    for those of you that have not seen this video history of the star spangled banner, its worth your while.
    http://www.historyofthestarspangledbanneryoutube.com

    • Palin12

      Very nice, almost brought tears to my eyes.

    • George E

      Chuck,

      This was a very nice video. Thanks for sharing. However, I do wish the speaker hadn’t referred to the states as colonies. The Star Spangled Banner was written during the War of 1812 not the Revolutionary War. In spite of that small gaff, this was a great presentation.

  • chuck b

    google: starspangledbannerhistoryyoutube.com

  • Palin12
  • http://herringtons.home.mindspring.com lighterknot

    Well I’m not a good writer – I‘m pretty much self taught, but you folks take the cake for misunderstanding. Else you’re a vicious bunch of hypocrites.

    You seem to think I’m promoting a world government; I’m simply saying that to control nuclear weapons and other weapons of mass destruction there must be one. Also to control pollution and conserve world resources such as the lungs of this earth, the rain forest; it will be necessary. And yes capitalism must be put on a short leash.

    I point out that “Sacred Honor” is a man’s loyalty to his word; and dueling was the means of policing his ranks as the autonomous individual; and you think I want to go back to dueling. I don’t think our founding fathers would have given liberty much chance to survive had they thought a man would not defend that honor. Of course Democracy is a compromise of ideas, and so we have compromised that basic paradigm till it’s hardly recognizable. That doesn’t mean it is not a primary moral value in maintaining personal freedom. I am and I always have been in reverence of the construction of this country and for the last 40 years I’ve been distraught to watch our behavior at trashing morals and environment along with the laws of the land.

    It was not set up that only soldiers would bare the burden of Sacred Honor and lay there life down for the country. All citizens were indicted to stand vigilant and die for the cause. It was natural that only Gentleman of Honor be recognized with voting rights and charged with the responsibility.

    Today all adults are honored with the full rights of citizenship and equal human rights as well – they are not however charged with the responsibility or even educated to know what it is. Our lives and our language are meaningless unless we understand this and that is exactly how the controlling powers want it to be

  • atlas reborn

    They did the right thing but an evil weed got into the garden an has spead like a wild fire and is about to devour our nation and replace it with a fate 1000 times worse than king george. We thank you patriots for all you gave and gave us. May God bless you and our nation.

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