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The Worst Books Ever Written

December 17, 2010 by  

The Worst Books Ever Written

Have you read a really bad book lately?  No, I don’t mean one of those “beach books” with poor plotting, inane dialogue and pitiful characterization. Lord knows there are plenty of those out there.

No, I’m talking here about some really dreadful books. The ones that helped produce the world’s most ruthless dictators… slaughtered millions of innocent civilians… and created the most misery.

A couple of years ago, Human Events (one of my favorite conservative news-weeklies) asked a group of scholars and public-policy leaders to compile a list of the 10 Most Harmful Books of the 19th and 20th centuries. Each panelist nominated a number of titles. They then voted on all books nominated, with the worst (No. 1) getting 10 points, the next getting nine points and so on down the list.

A whole bunch of terrible titles got an Honorable Mention. (Or maybe that should be a Dishonorable Mention.)  But here are the Top 10 — the books the scholars credited with causing more harm to mankind than anything else written in the past 250 years.

1. The Communist Manifesto by Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels
There was near-unanimity on the book that deserved the No. 1 slot. The Communist Manifesto received almost twice as many points as the title that captured second place. And is it any wonder?   The “dictatorship of the proletariat,” as implemented by Vladimir Lenin and Mao Zedong, led to the wholesale extermination of more than 200 million people.

I’m not talking about the victims of war here, but the systematic slaughter of entire populations as a means of consolidating and preserving state power.  Of course the “withering away of the state,” as promised in the Manifesto, has never occurred anywhere communism has been tried. That was nothing more than boob-bait, as H.L. Mencken rightly observed, designed to seduce credulous idealists and immature college students.

2. Mein Kampf by Adolf Hitler
Mein Kampf (“My Struggle”) was originally published in two parts in 1925 and 1926, after Hitler was imprisoned for leading the Nazi Brown Shirts in the so-called “Beer Hall Putsch” that tried to overthrow the Bavarian government. In it, Hitler explained exactly what he planned to do once he seized power — murder the Jews, wage war against France and then Russia and establish a thousand-year reign (his “Third Reich”) for the Aryan race.

What a pity that authorities dismissed him as an insignificant annoyance, instead of the evil genius whose efforts would lead directly to World War II, the deaths of hundreds of thousands of soldiers and civilians, and the slaughter of millions of Jews. They released him from prison instead of saving all of us from a lot of suffering.

3. Quotations from Chairman Mao by Mao Zedong
This tract, also known as “The Little Red Book,” was ostensibly written by the Chinese Communist dictator in 1966, 17 years after he seized power in China and founded the “People’s Republic.”  More than a billion copies were distributed in China as part of Mao’s “cultural revolution.” 

But believe it or not, Mao’s “Little Red Book” found its greatest popularity among Marxist college professors in the West, who couldn’t get enough of such anti-American pap as this from Chairman Mao: “It is the task of the people of the whole world to put an end to the aggression and oppression perpetrated by imperialism, and chiefly by U.S. imperialism.”

4. The Kinsey Report by Alfred Kinsey
Kinsey and his staff conducted extensive surveys of American sexual habits, including incredibly explicit one-on-one interviews, in the 1940s. The results appeared in two books — Sexual Behavior in the Human Male, published in 1948, and Sexual Behavior in the Human Female, published in 1953. Together, the two became known as The Kinsey Report.

Kinsey, a zoologist at Indiana University, acknowledged that part of his purpose was to give a scientific gloss to the normalization of promiscuity and deviancy. One reviewer later noted that Kinsey’s first report “stunned the nation by saying that American men were so sexually wild that 95 percent of them could be accused of some kind of sexual offense under 1940s laws.” 

His second report went even further, describing “sexual activity involving girls younger than age 4 and suggest[ing] that sex between adults and children could be beneficial.”

5. Democracy and Education by John Dewey
Here’s a name that isn’t mentioned much anymore, but Dewey’s influence in the first half of the 20th century was enormous. In this 1916 work, Dewey (the “father of progressive education”) denounced education that focused on traditional character development and the accumulation of “hard” knowledge (i.e., facts).

Instead, the secular humanist advocated teaching “thinking skills,” with little concern about what is “right” or “wrong.”  We are still paying the price for such idiocy today, nearly 100 years later.

6. Das Kapital by Karl Marx
When he died in 1867, Marx had completed just the first volume of a planned three-volume study. His benefactor Friedrich Engels finished the other two volumes from notes Marx left. In his magnum opus, Marx portrayed capitalism as merely an ugly phase in human development, in which capitalists exploit labor by paying the cheapest wages possible to amass as much wealth as possible. (Sounds like a Barack Obama speech today, doesn’t it?)  Such injustice would end, Marx said, in a worldwide proletarian revolution.

7. The Feminine Mystique by Betty Friedan
In this 1963 bestseller, Betty Friedan, the first of the angry feminists, disparaged stay-at-home motherhood as “a comfortable concentration camp.” Friedan later founded and was for many years the president of the National Organization for Women.
 
Friedan was no mere liberal activist, however. As David Horowitz notes, “from her college days and until her mid-30s, she was a Stalinist Marxist, the political intimate of the leaders of America’s Cold War fifth column, and for a time even the lover of a young communist.”

Friedan’s unattractiveness was much more than skin deep; her ugliness went all the way to the bone.

8. Course of Positive Philosophy by Auguste Comte
I’m not sure how this one made it to Top 10. Like you, I can think of lots of books that have done more damage — starting with Dr. Spock’s baby book, which told generations of parents not to spank their children. Still, this six-volume study, published between 1830 and 1842, is generally credited with creating the field of social studies, or “sociology” (a word Comte coined).
 
The son of a royalist Catholic family that survived the French revolution, Comte turned his back on theology, bragging that, “I have naturally ceased to believe in God.”  Comte taught that man alone, through scientific observation, could determine the way things ought to be, without any reliance on a Higher Power.

9. Beyond Good and Evil by Friedrich Nietzsche
An oft-scribbled bit of college-campus graffiti goes, “God is dead — Nietzsche,” followed by “Nietzsche is dead — God.”   Nietzsche’s contention that “God is dead” first appeared in his 1882 book, The Gay Science, but was expanded and popularized in Beyond Good and Evil, which appeared four years later.
 
In it, the German philosopher argued that all men are driven by an amoral “Will to Power,” and that superior men will sweep aside all obstacles to their ambition, including religiously-inspired moral rules. Not surprisingly, the Nazis loved Nietzsche.

10.  General Theory of Employment, Interest and Money by John Maynard Keynes 
Lord Keynes was an interesting contradiction. A member of the British elite (he was educated at Eton and Cambridge), he did more to popularize ever-expanding government than any other economist of his era.

Keynes became immensely wealthy through his investments, yet argued in favor of deficit spending and government borrowing. Long before Richard Nixon famously said, “We are all Keynesians now,” Franklin Roosevelt used Keynes’ arguments to justify the massive growth of government. As a result, today we have a $3.5 trillion Federal budget and a $13.8 trillion national debt. Thanks, Lord Keynes.

Dishonorable Mentions
Want some more really bad books?  There are 10 titles that garnered a substantial number of votes, but fell short of the top 10. In order they are: The Population Bomb by Paul Ehrlich, What Is To Be Done by V.I. Lenin, Authoritarian Personality by Theodor Adorno, On Liberty by John Stuart Mill [I don't know why this got included], Beyond Freedom and Dignity by B.F. Skinner, Reflections on Violence by Georges Sorel, The Promise of American Life by Herbert Croly, The Origin of Species by Charles Darwin, Madness and Civilization by Michel Foucault and Soviet Communism: A New Civilization by Sidney and Beatrice Webb.

So there you have it — 20 books that have caused unimaginable suffering, horror and devastation in the world. While some of them have (deservedly) disappeared into the trash cans of history, you will still find most of them praised and promoted on our college campuses today.

And allow me to add one more: Dreams from My Father: A Story of Inheritance, by Barack Obama (and William Ayers). This book is credited with helping to launch Obama’s Presidential campaign. You can see where that has gotten us.

Until next time, keep some powder dry.

–Chip Wood

Chip Wood

is the geopolitical editor of PersonalLiberty.com. He is the founder of Soundview Publications, in Atlanta, where he was also the host of an award-winning radio talk show for many years. He was the publisher of several bestselling books, including Crisis Investing by Doug Casey, None Dare Call It Conspiracy by Gary Allen and Larry Abraham and The War on Gold by Anthony Sutton. Chip is well known on the investment conference circuit where he has served as Master of Ceremonies for FreedomFest, The New Orleans Investment Conference, Sovereign Society, and The Atlanta Investment Conference.

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  • http://naver samurai

    Chip, I know what you mean by these books being dreadful and hard to understand. I personally have the first 3 books you’ve mentioned in your post. I had to read them for three of my history classes in college. Mein Kampf is more than 800 pages long and sometimes can read like a bill in Washington. I’m sure you know that by reading these books, you can see many similarities between the books and Obama bin Laden’s administration. Keep up the good fight, fellow patriot! FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

    • JRC

      He should also mention the 3 worse books ever written in history.
      Millions upon millions have been murdered because of them.
      The Torah, Bible, and Koran.

      Religious superstition and superior complex have done more harm and killed more people then any of the books mention in the article.

      • iowaheretic

        JRC; That’s the FIRST thing I thought of when I read the title of the article! I was going to reply the same thing, but you beat me to it.

        • Athianarcholib

          HERE HERE! That “worst books” list was sounding a bit like the people doing the rating were coming from a religious background. None of these books are as dangerous as the “big three” western religions’ books.
          By the way, I always liked Neitzche. After Ayn Rand, he’s my favorite philosopher. He had a brand of individualism that I like. Neitzche would say, “Some are born sheep, and some wolves, you cannot help what you are.” The Nazis misunderstood him, and took him out of context. I love the way that he presents Zarathustra as a messianic figure, and he’s right, GOD IS DEAD!

          • Athianarcholib

            What you view as good or bad depends on whether you are a sheep, or a wolf.
            If you are a sheep, you will prefer socialism, handouts, safety nets, security in numbers, religion to tell you how to live your life…to tell you what is right and wrong.
            If you are a wolf, you’ll be an opportunist, a hunter, a ruler, and a master. Yes, you’ll have a pack, but when the Alpha goes down, you’ll be there to fight for his place. Wolves are ambitious. And if a wolf finds himself alone, he can survive. A sheep cannot.
            Naturally, these two would have very different ideas about what is right or wrong, good or evil.

          • Denniso

            A little simplistic and missing the point that there is no direct equating of humans to the other animals,wolves or sheep. Some of the least aggressive humans have held the fate of countries in their hand,like Einstein. If we lived as humans did thousands of yrs ago your metaphor would be more correct.

      • Robert Smith

        Hi JRC,

        For pure evil the top of my list is the: Malleus Maleficarum

        It truly shows how many want to operate within their brand of christanity.

        The book is widely available on the web. Here is one I found: http://www.infinite-beyond.com/scripts/malleusmaleficarum.pdf

        For many it is the truth about christanity.

        Rob

        • nehope

          To Robert Smith, Dec. 17. 9:14 a.m. THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH FOR YOUR REFERENCE TO A PUBLICATION I WAS NOT AWARE OF. I will look into that.
          To all those who are constantly quoting the Bible and other fictional books. please note that this publication originated over many years – e.g. hundreds of years, by dozens of authors which has produced dubious reslts. One of the biggest frauds has to be Moses who spoke with God. Also, Jesus being a Jew, was not in the least interested to start a new religion. He was supposed to have said so much, yet there is no proof that he said anything.
          Religion is all profit. They have no merchandise to buy, no commissions to pay and no refunds to make for unsatisfactory service and results….
          Their commodity is fear. They blackmail their parishioners with threats of hell and damnation. These poor deluded people give them their hard earned money to save them from a hell that does not exist, and from eternal torment that was invented by the perverted minds of Priests to rob the living and in addition, they are excempt from taxation! Religion is the cruelest fraud every perpetuated upon the human race. It is the last of the great scheme of thievery that man must legally prohibit so as to protect himself from the charlatans who prey upon the ignorance and fears of the people.

          • http://donthaveone Beberoni

            The proof is everywhere. You just deny it. Like the wind. You feel it, but you cant see it, so it must not be there. That is your rationale here. Best thing is, you get to tell Him face to face he isnt real. Id like to be a fly on the wall when that day comes. Oh, to see your face.

          • Robert Smith

            Hey B…. I can’t feel your version of christanity either. No matter how much it blows I just can’t get into itl.

            Rob

      • Bob

        While it’s fairly obvious that Muslims have killed and to advocate and murder even today, but I’d be curious as to your justification as to how, where and when the Bible and Torah are responsible for killing “millions”. More Christians have been murdered based solely on their religion than any other sect, yet it preaches a turn the other cheek philosophy. I know I’d never get a thoughtful and accurate answer, but if your thinking about witchcraft, the Inquisition the numbers aren’t close:only the addition of the crusades
        will help make your number and that was a war with another religion that you similarly despise, though I’d wager you resent Christianity more than any other. Fact is the number atheist despots victims dwarfs the numbers you believe. You have a belief and falsify numbers to make your case. Loser!

        • dawn

          Man you really don’t know christian history , do you. Christians started the killing. When it became a bad thing to be pagan or to beleive in anything but the church. let’s see, the holy wars, the inqisition, salem witch trials, all of these things committed by christians. you act like there isn’t any blood on the side of good. well good they didn’t start out.

          • Denniso

            WOW!!! Betty Friedan and Kinnsey, up there on the worst books ever list w/ Marx and Mao. Sure, let’s go back to the good old days when people lied and hid and pretended that sex was evil and forbidden in certain specified circumstances,and when every marriage was happy,when young girls never got pregnant(we sent them out of town to be dealt with in one way or another) and men and women never had affairs outside of wedlock.
            And isn’t it a shame that women were empowered by people like Friedan and now they can work or not,and have careers or not,a nd even become scretary of state…or choose to have babies or not. Bad,bad books..

          • S.C.Murf

            The holy wars were started by the crusaders THE ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH, which by the way is a mixture of paganism and christianity. The true Christian has a relationship not a religion. You are lost and any false ideas that you spew which turn others away from Christ, you will be held accountable.

          • MNIce

            Your claim that Christians started the killing is utterly false. Pagans were slaughtering people in the names of their gods centuries before Christ. Numerous cases are documented in the Old Testament, beginning in Exodus (Pharaoh ordered the genocide of Israelite male babies to preserve his “divine” rule).

            It is a popular myth amongst secularists that Jews and Christians promote unbridled killing, but the claim lacks historical context. Did God command the Israelites to wipe out the pagan tribes of Canaan after the return from Egypt? Yes. But first, He gave the Canaanites 400 years to repent and turn to Him after Abraham brought the knowledge of the truth to them. Instead, their pagan religious practices became even more abominable and murderous(!), including the sacrifice of children to Chemosh to gain material prosperity (not far removed from modern abortions for economic reasons). These people were incorrigible and posed a threat to the Israelites.

            Have there been wars and inquisitions waged in the name of Christianity? Yes. These were NOT commanded in the Scriptures. God does not order the torture or execution of heretics, He only commanded that they be avoided in the same manner as unbelievers (i. e., they are not to be admitted as members of the congregation). Likewise, unlike Islam, He does not command Christians to wage physical war on infidels because they are infidels. Instead He commands us to preach the Gospel.

            Even so, the numbers of people killed in “religious” wars by Christians is surely dwarfed by the numbers killed by abortion in the United States alone since 1973 – about 60,000,000. Abortion is proclaimed as a sacred “right” by secularists, and is often rationalized as a response to the “threat of overpopulation” trumpeted in Ehrlich’s “Population Bomb”. That book and the philosophy it represents are historically far deadlier than the Bible, and it isn’t even the worst of the list.

          • Kate8

            dawn – It is you who don’t know history. Go back further, to when Christ was walking the Earth. He and his followers were already being persecuted by the Pharasees and the Romans. After they crucified Him, his deciples, who were still practicing Jews, were hunted and ultimately executed for their beliefs. John the Baptist was beheaded.

            The early Christians who followed (who were still called Jews) were constantly persecuted, fed to lions, and all manner of torment. Not once did any of them ever lift a hand against another human being. They suffered for their beliefs, nothing else. They taught only love.

            It was Constantine who set up the Church of Rome as part of government, creating a whole new “religion”, new doctrine, changed laws, precepts, times and feasts, combining some of Christs teachings with paganism.

            This was also a time when Islam was on the march in conquest of the middle east and Europe, and much of the wars over religion were defending against this brutal movement. They were also wars for political power as they spread northward, as the church was part of the state. The expansion of Rome was in the name of the Emperor, and he used the church as a means to further his rule.

            The actions of the Roman church were never taught by Christ. He clearly stated that his Kingdom was not of this world. There were men who understood this and broke from the Romans, attempting to re-establish the Spirit of Christ’s teachings which are based in Love.

            Men are never perfect and, except for a small remnant, much of what Christ taught in it’s purity was lost. But it appears to be making a resurgence in these times, as prophesied.

            True Christians are never given to hate. But in today’s upsided-down world, what was once called good is now called evil, and vice versa.

          • Al Sieber

            Kate8, thanks for the info..

          • Al Sieber

            If you really want to know read “Rulers Of Evil” by F. Tupper Saussy. it’s about the Jesuits, how they started, the roles they played, the evil they practiced. I believe they coined the phrase “Kill them all and let God Sort Them Out”.

          • Kevin C

            @ Al Sieber,

            The Quote is “Kill them all, God will know his own.”-”Tuez les tous, Dieu reconnaitra les siens”
            Simon de Montfort, 5th Earl of Leicester, also Simon IV de Montfort (1160 – June 25, 1218)
            During the Albigensian Crusade or Cathar Crusade (1209–1229), a 20-year military campaign initiated by the Catholic Church to eliminate the Cathar heresy in Languedoc.

          • Jayd

            I was raised Catholic, but then I became a Christian in my late 20′s. Christians have received much abuse,slander, bias, predudice, murder and mayhem for the sins of Constantine and the roman catholic mafia. When one thinks about the good that is done because/in spite of religion, there has to be some argument as to why the great hospitals are named “St. Joseph’s Hospital, St Anthony’s, Presbyterian Hospital, Adventice Hospital…and so on. There has been a very benevolent history of Christian heritage that so often goes overlooked by many of the commentators who profess such a disdain for Christianity. …also, if it was not for biblical princpals, the U.S.A. would never have happened.

          • Al Sieber

            Kevin C, Thanks for the correction and info.

          • Kate8

            jayd – While I’m sure the intent of the various churches’ founding of hospitals is a benevelent one, it is painfully obvious that our medical system and Big Pharma are very much a part of the system of the Beast.

            Something to ponder.

          • Lewis Munn

            Folka,
            You really are into distorting the facts!

            Someone SAYING they are a Christian, but NOT following the words of Jesus Christ…Hey, by their actions they show they are NOT followers of Jesus, and so not Christians. They just name without the heart change, so are Hypocrites.

            I agree, Hypocrites calling themselves Christians have done terrible things. But so have Hypocrites under other names, and no big deal is made, now is it?

            Why do you folks get all upset when someone claims to be Christian and does not live up to the name? You do not get this upset if a Republican does not live up to his named party standards…do you?

            Please…remember a Christian is not because they used the name, but because their actions are in total compliance with the teaching of Jesus Christ, which I suspect many of you have never taken time to read, let alone study and understand. They are in that Horrible Book you hate, called the Bible, on which our early country was in part based! No more, of course; makes people feel too guilty when they do known wrong!

            I do, however, suggest you read and study enough so you know a Christian from a nonbeliever or a hypocrite, and don’t blame the wrong religion or lack of it!! It is true as said, you can know Christians by their love, for all, even sinners!

            Now, go correct your slanders, if you are intellectually and otherwise honest and honorable. Let them stand if you have no honesty or honor, and we will all know you for what you really are.

            “By their fruits you will know them.” Luke 3:8 and other references.

          • Charie

            Obviously you haven’t read any Christian history or you’ve simply forgotten Nero, Christians being thrown into the ring with wild animals to be torn apart or tied to crosses and set on fire to light the pathways for those who hated them. Of course there was the ever-popular crucifixion, too. That didn’t end with Christ being crucified.

            Just one of those little factoids that won’t go away no matter how anti-Christians want them to.

          • Rick N.

            Lewis Munn, you are so correct. Many hypocrites go around professing to be a follower of a faith, but doing nothing to demonstrate it. I know far too many people who claim to be Christian, but disgrace the word with their actions. And look at the fanatic Islamic groups, who are nothing more than sociopathic criminals, disgracing the name of Islam to carry out their radical agendas.

            WAY too many hypocrites walking the earth!

          • Travis

            How about Persian epire(pagen)Roman(Pagen)Greek(Pagen) all started wars of empiriel expansion & genocide. Not to mention the nazis

        • Robert Smith

          Hi Bob,

          Don’t need to falsify anything and the killing by other religions combined doesn’t justify the killing of even one by christians. The “they did more” (if real) does NOT justify the bad behavior by christians.

          Rob

          • Doug Rodrigues

            S.C. Murf is trying to rewrite history. The Crusades were a reaction to the Muslims trying to spread their crazy philosophy toward Europe…something like the Muslims are starting to do now. Perhaps we need another “Cursade” but with modern weapons? We can start with Iran.

          • smithington

            Robert, try reading the non-catholic version of “Foxes Book of Martyrs”. Catholicism is of the Devil. Please don’t confuse true Christianity with false religions who call themselves “Christian”

          • Robert Smith

            So, who are the “true” christians? Fred Phelps or Bishop Spong?

            Rob

          • libertytrain

            Good grief – I love it when human beings are able to decide who the real Christian’s are and who are not based on what – something their mother told them?

          • smithington

            True Christians are those who have trusted in Jesus Christ ALONE for their salvation, according to Biblical truth (God’s Word-Not religion or a priest). Jesus Christ is God manifest in the flesh – 100% God, nothing less. Any religion that denies the ABSOLUTE deity of Christ or says salvation is by ANY part of works (IE. Catholicism, Mormons, 7th Day Adventists, Islam, or any other of the many “isms”). Salvation is by Grace alone, through faith alone, in Christ alone. You have the free will to believe or not believe, God will not force you. I will stand by my claims, according to the Word of God, let Him be my judge! WON’T YOU COME TO JESUS TODAY…BEFORE IT”S TOO LATE?

          • smithington

            PS. Ultimately, only God can know for sure who is saved and who is not. Man cannot make this judgment. God sees the heart. I do not judge whether a person is saved or not, I only share Biblical truth from over 20,000 hours of intense, prayerful study of the Bible. I am just a sinner saved by grace, I am no better than anyone else. I only see my need for Christ and rely on the grace of God to live each day.

          • smithington

            PSS. Any religion that denies the truths I stated above is FAKE Christianity and it leads to hell.

        • (WIA) Wild Indian in Action

          I do believe Bob that you need to study the history of ” convert the Savages or Kill Them, a conservative number in the Americas 38 million, Now, look up the rest of the “uncivilized” savages around the world, that refused to convert, that is if you can find them all in the name of God.

          • Al Sieber

            (WIA), I believe your right, the Catholic Church had a lot to do with the atrocities and genocide that took place. my great aunt was a teacher on the Mohawk Reservation (St. Regis N.Y.) and married into the tribe. my great aunt and uncle educated me about what went on.

        • Vicki

          Bob. Evil people claiming to be Christian have killed many people. Anyone who actually knows a bit Christ and Christianity will recognize the difference. You will see responses from several people here attempting to demonize all Christians for the actions of some people who falsely claim to be Christian. Jesus knew this when he warned against false prophets and warned us of wolves in sheep’s clothing.

          We see the attempts to demonize whole groups of people all throughout history. The Jews, The Christians, Even today the Tea Party activists. And that is just a tiny list.

        • R.E. Burton Jr

          Great Article! As for the ass hats that place Christianity and Judaism in the same category, What about Islam???
          Ignorance breeds ignorance, as evident of our modern day culture.
          “Morals past” equals “morals present”, it’s a family trait.
          This is NOT the USofA I fought for!!!
          GOD Speed Bob.
          R.E. Burton Jr

        • Guy

          Bob , First of all your buy bull god is responsible for the death of everyone that has ever lived if you had any type of reading comprehension you would know this (unless you have never actually read this repulsive book). For the punishment adam received for siding with his mate ,eve , after she ate of the knowledge tree was death. No-one died before this . Then this “forgiving god ” of yours flooded the earth killing not only humans but everything living except one family and two of every animal that lived on a big damn boat for forty days. Which would also kill all marine life because fresh water fish could not survive in salt water and vice versa. Then there was babylon , various human sacrifices this god demanded , crusades , witch hunts. And to be honest if you were a devout christian and followed your caring gods commandments everyone working on sunday , any child disobeying their parents , anyone committing adultery (this includes a divorced person) , anyone voting on american idol, using blasphemy, I could go on but surely you know the rest of your rules should be taken outside the city and be stoned to death. Now aren’t you glad jesus died for your sins? If he redeemed you in the eyes of “god” why are you still born a sinner ? Your buy bull god lied to you . If money is the root to evil why do churches want more? god doesn’t need it his streets are paved in gold . I wouldn’t have a problem with religious corporations if they paid taxes. After all the vatican is the wealthiest corporation in the world. Don’t believe me google it…

      • ValDM

        Shame on you JRC. Soon you will learn the error of your ways. The Torah and the Bible have the blueprint for life in them and you’re just too stubborn and in love with yourself and fellow atheists to know just exactly where your own morality comes from (if you have any morals).

      • crystal

        Three books you have never read nor can you comprehend.

        • Robert Smith

          Heyyyyyy crystal, how are you doing?

          I’ve read the christian bible. I consider it one of the best sword and sorcery fantasy books every written.

          BTW, didn’t have much fun with the “begots, and begats”.

          Rob

          • Bob Wire

            It is! it truly is.

            But I’d encourage light readers to start somewhere else.

            “Fun with Dick and Jane” or dictionary. I liked Dictionary but it sure changes the subject a lot.

          • Robert Smith

            Yes, I hear that phone books came from Doodooromony.

            Lots of players, but no real plot.

            Rob

          • Kate8

            Robert Smith, Scripture says that those who read the Bible, but the Holy Spirit is not in them, will lack understanding and it will appear as foolishness to them.

          • Al Sieber

            Robert, the Bible is a instruction for life, and how we should live our live’s. our court system, morals, etc.

          • Robert Smith

            Awwwww…. Any Rand in several of her books also offers a guide for life. Further, she didn’t think anyone should be bothered for much of anything except not being productive and earning one’s way.

            BTW what do you get from churches that you put all that money into? If the christian god is so powerful how’s come his representatives are asking for so much money?

            Rob

          • Kate8

            RobertSmith, what a stupid, hypocritical thing to say.

            Christians don’t give to the church to GET something. They do it because the Lord tells us to help our brethren, feed and clothe the poor, tend to the sick….

            Also, being part of the physical plane, churches need money to function. Clergy need to eat, and cover personal expenses. The clergy I have known have lived very spartan lives. Mega-ministries are another story.

            You don’t have a problem with government CONFISCATING our money. One group is voluntary (and far more efficient), and the other is by FORCE, with threat of great penalty.

          • Al Sieber

            Rob, I’ve read Ann Rand, our rights and the Constitution didn’t come from her, I finally have to say, I think you’re full of $hit, I’ve tried to restrain myself, but, a few beers and your ignorance finally did it.don’t answer my posts and I won’t respond to you again. you’re either a Govt. Troll or a fool. you don’t want to try and carry on any type of intelligent dialog with anyone.

          • Al Sieber

            Also Rob, I don’t belong to any organized religion, I hate it.

          • nehope

            To Robert Smith, You and a few others are objective and of sound reason. All those who quote the “Bible” should really read it, instead of leaving it up to the Priest etc. to quote only the items which are in the interest of those frauds. This book is full of
            Paradoxes, Sex, Obscenities, Filth, Atrocities, Inconcistencies, Absurdities,Vulgarities and Contradictions.

      • Bitter Libertarian

        I respectfully disagree that any book is the fault of anyones actions…sorry! To me its almost a LIBERAL stance blaming anyones actions on what they read…I’ve “tried” to read a few of those and I’ve not been corrupted…sooooo….Like it or not banning those books is almost the same thing as blaming a gun for a murder. :)

        • A.Crews

          Hey liberaterian, I don’t think they are talking aboud reading the books but, they are talking about the writers of the spew that’s in the books.

        • DaveH

          Agreed.

      • http://msn Dr.Doom

        Do a little studying on your own and don’t follow a foolish lead by someone else’s statements you haven’t checked out. Don’t be fooled by some liberal cynical lie and please differentiate between religion and relationship. Study history and make your own conclusions.

      • nehope

        Sir, You did not say much, but every word you wrote is so true.
        Every time, a person makes a comment about these fraudulant religions, he or she gets shot down with obscenity. Every time those mentally challenged religous do-gooders are stuck for an explanation, they say ” YOU MUST HAVE FAITH”. Faith into what? I don’t really care if a person is going to church or not. However, it is unlikely that an Atheist will be knocking on your door trying to convert you to his or her believes. On the other hand, there are many who are trying to force their idiotic religious pervertness onto anyone, if they want it or not. To all those those who constantly quote the Bible or any other fairy tale book, you are either uninformed, misinformed or gravely mistaken. W.

        • Joe

          Funny many of you say athiests are not trying to convert anyone. Is that why they rent billboards saying God is a lie and does not exist? Is that why they get laws passed that kick God out of schools? They are more aggressive in their “conversion” than any Christian ever has been. So quit with the lie about their innocence. They are bitter and aggressive.
          And there have always been idiots who kill in the name of religion. However, that does not excuse the actions of those like Hitler, Mao, Stalin, Marx, Engel, etc.
          If you bother to STUDY (not just read) the Bible, you will see there is nothing in there that says to kill others because of their faith. Those that were killed in the true record were antagonistic and would have killed covenant makers. I have never heard of someone who says they were inspired to kill based on the Bible’s teachings. It teaches to turn the other cheek and to love. Somehow, that does not sound like the criteria for a murderous psychopath. You do, however, hear of odious people who were inspired by books such as the ones written of to kill and remove liberty.

          • Vicki

            Yes I noticed that too. Some (not all) Athiests go out of their way to force their religion on others in all the ways you listed and more. Others are much more Christian in their approach. They do not get in your face. They have a clear understanding of freedom and liberty they just do not seem to have a principle to base freedom and liberty on.

            Keep in mind I do not know that they don’t I just have never asked them. I shall correct that oversight. To the Athiests on this list whom I know from your writings to be freedom loving folk what is the principle you use to base your moral code.

          • smithington

            We are also commanded to “Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you” (Matt. 5:44)

          • Denniso

            The great majority of people of the world and in this country believe in some religion,myth,superstition,fantasy…the tiny minority who don’t can never be a threat to the vast majority yet some religious people want to demonize the non believers and paint them as a danger to society. Is it because of their own often weak and shaky religious beliefs that leaves them open to fear and paranoia and leads them to persecute the minority?

          • Al Sieber

            It’ always been my understanding that a true Christian is one who follows the teaching of Jesus Christ, so far I haven’t met too many true Christians.

          • Dan az

            Robert smith
            Really thats the best you could do as a reply?When the mention of a request for someones opinion you never seem to give one,why is that?

          • Al Sieber

            Dan az, you’re wasting your time with Rob, the only side is his.

          • Kate8

            Joe – Hitler and the NAZIs hated Christians, too. Hitler despised ministers of the Gospel.

            When those in power do not acknowledge any power higher than theirs, when they have no one to whom they are accountable, we get tyranny and all manner of atrocity. The NAZIs bashed infanats heads against walls until their brains spilled out. What kind of human does that?

            Tyrants must always erase all faith in God. They must be power supreme. Gee, who does that sound like?

            Those who have bought in to this human supremecy don’t realize that they are nothing but tools for tyrants and genocide. It is simply not reasonable to believe that there is no higher Intelligence that governs all of Creation, including man.

          • Kate8

            BTW, Hitler also pretended to be Christian, and sympathetic to Christians, in order to get elected.

            Any means to an end. Many Christians voted for Obama.

            Hitler also infiltrated the church and began to insert socialism into church teachings, just like the Left has done here, as in Liberation Theology. I’m sure there is much more than that, too.

        • Robert Wayne

          Oh? Well, maybe you can give me the reason why you atheists are spending thousands of dollars on your scumbag ACLU and SPLC lawyers to try to destroy Christianity by outlawing it in public schools and state universities. And don’t give me that separation of church and state garbage, because you never seem to have any problem with muslims wanting to force their beliefs of their Sharia law on anybody.

          • Robert Smith

            Awwww boo hoo… You didn’t get to keep Dover, PA, with your silly creationism.

            Rob

          • Denniso

            Robert Wayne sounds a little off balance…no one in this country is trying to push Sahria law on society and no one is accepting of it who I know…excepting the fundamentalist Muslims,which is understanderable,just like other fundamentalists do.

          • Dan az

            this is where this should have been placed to robert smith so
            Robert smith
            Really thats the best you could do as a reply?When the mention of a request for someones opinion you never seem to give one,why is that?

          • Al Sieber

            Dan, you put your post to Rob in the right place. he just don’t get it.

        • Jim Cumber

          No, the atheist doesn’t knock on your door to try to convert you to their way of thinking: the so-called “Education System” FORCE FEEDS young “minds full of mush” with such insanity as is seen in the 10 or 20 “Worst Books”. The “Compulsory Education” Lobby are nothing, more or less, than “Propagandists” who are preaching to a “captive audience” who are FORCED TO ATTEND by Government Edict. Most of what they teach is atheistic Communism and other such pseudo-intellectual drivel which turns our world upside down and inside out. The “missionaries for atheism are right there in our public schools, God help us!

      • http://Mr.Hogue'sWisdom Dale Hogue

        The ‘average reader’ of these articles are gaining an education by reading them. What they do with this knowledge is more important to mankind than the ideas presented in the articles. Average everyday kind of people outnumber the so-called ‘intellectual elitists’ by a huge margin, but they fail to do magnanimous things on a large enough scale to affect the ‘human’ course of civilization and that is something to be regretted! It is easy enough to do research on what has taken place historically, but the knowledge gained may only provide us an understanding of what has happened in the past,or it allows us to have an appreciation of those people who did what they did for whatever reason or motivation that compelled them to act in given situations. In the general election of 2008, enough ‘average’ American citizens voted for an individual who knew nothing about how to be an administrator in the most powerful position that is held by an elected ‘leader’ in today’s world. The incompetence of this ‘leader’ may do more damage to human civilization than all the intellectual misfits combined. And we ‘average’ Americans have to put up with this demagogue for another two years, that is unless something inconceivable takes place before then. If that happens, then all the words and laments of the so-called ‘intellectuals’ will not change one single thing that he has done to America and Americans during his wildly impulsive power trip while in the White House.

        • Robert Smith

          Dale Hogue says: “In the general election of 2008, enough ‘average’ American citizens voted for an individual who knew nothing about how to be an administrator in the most powerful position that is held by an elected ‘leader’ in today’s world.”

          The FRC responded to the Poeverty Law Center by crafting an open letter which appeared in the Dec. 15 print editions of Politico and The Washington Examiner. The letter was signed by more than 150 organizational leaders and politicians, including House Speaker-elect John Boehner (R-Ohio) and House Majority Leader-elect Eric Cantor (R-Va.).

          From that letter: “The surest sign one is losing a debate is to resort to character assassination,” the letter reads. “The Southern Poverty Law Center, a liberal fundraising machine whose tactics have been condemned by observers across the political spectrum, is doing just that.”

          Seems to me that the extreme right is losing the debate around here by resorting to character assassination. Interesting… It’s OK for the right to trash individuals, but it’s not OK for the left. I think I understand how the right works now!

          Rob

      • http://marcum@wildblue.net coal miner

        JRC,

        Right on.You forgot the Talmud.We are 1800 years behind times,because of Christianity.This religion of peace, brought nothing but fear,ignorance,slavery and bigotry.In 380 AD Emperor Theodosius made Christianity the official state religion and all other religions invalid.Those oppose, were brutally crushed.They brought on the Dark Ages.Lets don’t repeat it again.I hope all religions will be gone,by end of this century, then we can head for the stars.

        • Andy32n

          Coal Miner, I live in the coal region of the U.S. and I can say that I don’t know any true coal miners with your beliefs. Unfortunatly for you when you die, you will not be heading for the stars.

        • S.C.Murf

          Why don’t you head for the stars right NOW, and while you are at it, some where along the way YOU can make that popping sound.

          • Vicki

            Be a good leader and show the way.

        • DaveH

          We can’t blame Christ for the misuse of his teachings.

          • http://marcum@wildblue.net coal miner

            DaveH,

            Christ was a carbon copy Of Mithra.

            Romans took possession of the Kingdom of Pergamum (in 133 B.C.), occupied Asia Minor, and stationed two legions of soldiers on the Euphrates, the success of Mithraism was secured. It spread rapidly from the Bosphorus to the Atlantic, from Illyria to Britain. Its foremost apostles were the legionaries; hence it spread first to the frontier stations of the Roman army.

            “Mithraism was emphatically a soldier religion; Mithra, its hero, was especially a divinity of fidelity, manliness, and bravery; the stress it laid on good-fellowship and brotherliness, its exclusion of women, and the secret bond among its members have suggested the idea that Mithraism was Masonry among the Roman soldiery.” Several of the Roman Emperors, down to Licinius, colleague of Constantine, built temples to Mithra, and issued coins with his symbols. “But with the triumph of Christianity [after Constantine] Mithraism came to a sudden end. The laws of Theodosius [proscribing it under penalty of death, to please the Christians] signed its death warrant. Though he was still worshiped a thousand years later by the Manichees (p. 402). …

            “Ahura Mazda and Ahriman. — This incarnate evil (Ahriman) rose; with the army of darkness to attack and depose Oromasdes (Ahura Mazda) They were however thrown back into hell, whence they escape, wander over the face of the earth and afflict man. … As evil spirits ever lie in wait for hapless man, he needs a friend and savior, who is Mithra. … Mithra is the Mediator between God and Man. The Mithraists… battled on Mithra’s side against all impurity, against all evil within and without. They believed in the immortality of the soul; sinners after death were dragged down to hell; the just passed through the seven spheres of the planets, leaving at each planet a part of their lower humanity until, as pure spirits, they stood before God. At the end of the world Mithra will desectid to earth, … and will make all drink the beverage of immortality. He will thus have proved himself Nabarses, ‘the never conquered.’ …

            “The fathers conducted the worship. The chief of the fathers, a sort of pope, who always lived at Rome, was called ‘Pater Patratus’ … The members below the grade of pater called one another ‘brother,’ and social distinctions were forgotten in Mithraic unity. … A sacred meal was celebrated of bread and haoma juce for which in the West wine was substituted. This meal was supposed to give the participants supernatural virtue. …

            “Three times a day prayer was offered the sun towards east, south, or west according to the hour. SUNDAY was kept holy in honor of Mithra, and the sixteenth of each month was sacred to him as Mediator. The 25 December was observed as his birthday, the Natalis Invictis, the rebirth of the winter-sun, unconquered by the rigors of the season.” (pp. 403-104.) It may be noted that Sunday was made a Pagan holiday by edict of Constantine, In the fifth Tablet of the Babylonian (Chaldean) Epic of Creation, by the great God Marduk, we read, lines 17 and 18: “On the seventh day he appointed a holy day, And to cease from all work he commanded.” (Records of the Past, vol. ix; quoted, Clarke, Ten Great Religions, ii, p. 383.)

            To resume with CE.: “No proof of immorality or obscene practices has ever been established against Mithraism; and as far as can be ascertained, or rixther conjectured, it had an elevating and invigorating effect on its followers. [So different from Christianity!] …

            “Relation to Christianity. — A similarity between Mithra and Christ struck even early observers, such as Justin, Tertullian, and other Fathers, and in recent times has been urged to prove that Christianity is but an adaptation of Mithraism, or at least the outcome of the same religious ideas and aspirations. Some apparent [they are very apparent] similarities exist; but in a number of details — [it is substance that is identical] — it is quite as probable that Mithraism was the borrower from Christianity. — [But these essential identities are found in the Vedas and Avesta, of maybe two thousand years before Christianity; Zoroaster, who, gave final form to the creed, lived some 600 years before the Christ!] — It is not unnatural to suppose that a religion which swept the whole world, should have been copied at least in some details by another religion which was quite popular daring the third century — [and for nine, Or twenty centuries before!] Similarity in words and names means nothing; it is the sense that matters. [To be sure; we proceed to see more of the sense, -- the essence -- to be identical] …

            “Mithra is called a mediator; and so is Christ … And so in similar instances. Mithraism had a Eucharist, but the idea of the sacred banquet is as old as the human race and existed at all ages and amongst all peoples. — [Not much "divine revelation" in this greatest of Christian mysteries!]. Mithra saved the world by sacrificing a bull — [just as the Jews saved themselves] Christ by sacrificing himself. … Mithraism was all comprehensive and tolerant of every other cult; Christianity was essentially exclusive, condemning every other religion in the world, alone and unique in its majesty.” (CE. x, 402-404.)

            As for the similarities between Mithra, Mithraism, Jesus and Christianity:

            Mithra was born on December 25th sometimes in a stable or cave but traditionally from a rock. The emperor Aurelian declared December 25 to be the official birthday of Mithra, circa 270 CE, even attended by shepards who brought gifts.
            Mithra was a traveling teacher.

            Mithra had 12 disciples.

            He performed Miracles.

            He was buried in a tomb.

            In three days he was resurrected.

            He was called the “Good Shepard”.

            He was considered “”the Way, the Truth and the Light, the Redeemer, the Savior, the Messiah.”

            His sacred day was Sunday.

            His resurrection was celebrated on Easter.

            He had a Last Supper when he returned to his father. Also called the Eucharist or the Lord’s Supper.

            He was believed not to have died, but to have ascended to heaven where it was believed he would return at the end of time where he would judge the living and the dead.

            He granted immortal life of his followers through baptism.

            Followers of Mithra were lead by a ‘papa’, the Greek word for ‘father’ and what ‘pope’ is derived from,who ruled on Vatican Hill in Rome.

            Followers of Mithra celebrated “sacramenta”, a consecrated bread and wine, using chanting, incense,bells, candles and holy water just as is found in the Catholic Mass.

          • Bob Wire

            Hmm? interesting read, in there some event that equals the killing of the first born to squash a foretold contender for power in this story as well?

          • Effin Reed Tard

            Coal Miner,

            Jesus is God – Mithra is probably a god. That Mithra god just trying to copy Jesus …

          • Karolyn

            There are also other revered men before Christ who had the same said of them. They were given the same titles, born in similar circumstances and had similar lives: Harus 3000bc; Atus 1200bc, Krishna 900bc and Dionysius 500bc. I got all of this from the movie “Zeitgeist” (on Youtube). I can neither confirm nor deny these facts. However, it does seem weird that men born prior to Jesus had so many similarities, as if Jesus’ life was copied from those previous to him. In Zeitgeist, it is explained that all of the similarities trace back to the constellations. Very interesting movie. The jury is out for me because I believe that Jesus was a man who was the most enlightened human being ever born as a son of God, as are we all “sons” of God.

          • Kate8

            Karolyn – Could it be that there is so much similarity in creation stories because they all carry the same message? That being, the way to Oneness with God and true enlightenment?

            Yeshua was completely aware of His Oneness with the Father, and was truly enlightened. In showing us the Way, He emphasized the importance of Love, and how the only Way is through the heart. We can’t do it through the mind.

            His life is rich with symbolism, also. When we understand the symbolism, we understand the message. So much of His teaching was hidden from human understanding, such as our supernatural nature, and how much we are actually capable of being. That is why, when someone only accepts Scripture as literal, it is such a stretch for the mind.

        • eddie47d

          Murf the Pop-corn man; Your just another poor excuse who thinks Emperor Theodosius was right to kill non- Christians. Your morals were invalidated long ago. .

          • S.C.Murf

            eddie after a statement like that YOU really need to make that popping sound.

          • Effin Reed Tard

            Eddie,

            Them early Christians were murdered by the Roman Emperors for over 3 centuries. Maybe when the “Christians” took over they were a “Little bit” scared of being murdered some more ?

          • http://marcum@wildblue.net coal miner

            Elfin Reed,

            Zoroaster 600 years before Christ and Mithra,also lived centuries before Christ.Christ was a copy of both religious myths.Both Mithra and Zotoaster came from Persia.The Resurection of the Dead from(Egypt)Christianity is a by-product of all pagan religions that had come and gone.Mithraism became a religion in Rome 68 BC and established its roots.

          • Kate8

            coalminer, Christ came as the fulfillment of God’s promise to Abraham, who predates (and fathers) both Judaism and Islam. The early Christians were still called Jews up until the time of Constantine.

        • Jill

          So you didn’t learn anything trapped in the earth?

      • http://Mr.Hogue'sWisdom Dale Hogue

        The ‘average reader’ of these articles are gaining an education by reading them. What they do with this knowledge is more important to mankind than the ideas presented in the articles. Average everyday kind of people outnumber the so-called ‘intellectual elitists’ by a huge margin, but they fail to do magnanimous things on a large enough scale to affect the ‘human’ course of civilization and that is something to be regretted!

        It is easy enough to do research on what has taken place historically, but the knowledge gained may only provide us an understanding of what has happened in the past,or it allows us to have an appreciation of those people who did what they did for whatever reason or motivation that compelled them to act in given situations.

        In the general election of 2008, enough ‘average’ American citizens voted for an individual who knew nothing about how to be an administrator in the most powerful position that is held by an elected ‘leader’ in today’s world. The incompetence of this ‘leader’ may do more damage to human civilization than all the intellectual misfits combined. And we ‘average’ Americans have to put up with this demagogue for another two years, that is unless something inconceivable takes place before then. If that happens, then all the words and laments of the so-called ‘intellectuals’ will not change one single thing that he has done to America and Americans during his wildly impulsive power trip while in the White House.

        • DaveH

          I think the election of Obama might prove to be the most beneficial thing to have happened to this country in 230 years. Thanks to Obama’s impatience and to the advent of the Internet, the citizens are finally waking up and discussing the future of our country with an intensity that I haven’t seen in my lifetime (61 years). This awakening may save us, and in a perverse way we can thank Obama for that.

          • Vicki

            Agreed. It was the one thing that baffled my conservative friends. Why was I so happy that the Democrats had gained such control of Congress and the Presidency when they were so depressed. I explained that Democrats have no patience and would turn up the heat and boil the frog too quickly. That would wake up the frog who would jump out of the pot. No where in my wildest imagination would I have suspected Obama, Reid, and Pelosi to go so far so fast.

          • Kate8

            DaveH – Speaking of the internet, I heard that Congress is meeting to take over the internet on Dec 23rd (or was it the 20th?). Anyway, it appears that it may happen.

          • libertytrain

            Kate – and if they do that then they will most certainly increase the unemployment rate – by eliminating thousands and thousands of jobs.

          • Al Sieber

            DaveH, I’m also 61, and experienced a lot in my life, I believe what you say about Obama, it is causing a lot of people to wake up and take notice, it could be beneficial to this country in the long run.

        • Effin Reed Tard

          YES WE CAN !!! YES WE CAN !!!

        • http://marcum@wildblue.net coal miner

          E.Reed,

          Here is more:

          Mithraism and Judaism merged and became Christianity. Jesus, son of the Hebrew sky God, and Mithras, son of Ormuzd are both the same myth. The rituals of Christianity coincide with the earlier rituals of Mithraism, including the Eucharist and the Communion in great detail. The language used by Mithraism was the language used by Christians. St Paul as the first “Christian” bears much of the responsibility for merging the two in his preaching and teaching, and also comes from Tarsus, a major Mithraist center.

          The idea of a sacrificed saviour is Mithraist, so is the symbolism of bulls, rams, sheep, the blood of a transformed saviour washing away sins and granting eternal life, the 7 sacraments, the banishing of an evil host from heaven, apocalyptic end of time when God/Ormuzd sends the wicked to hell and establishes peace. Roman Emperors, Mithraist then Christian, mixed the rituals and laws of both religions into one. Emperor Constantine established 25th of Dec, the birthdate of Mithras, to be the birthdate of Jesus too. The principal day of worship of the Jews, The Sabbath, was replaced by the Mithraistic Sun Day as the Christian holy day. The Catholic Church, based in Rome and founded on top of the most venerated Mithraist temple, wiped out all competing son-of-god religions within the Roman Empire, giving us modern literalist Christianity.

          • Kate8

            coal miner, The Jews were always getting ivolved with pagan idolatry, and were always being enslaved by it. However, there has always been a small number of those who kept true to the God of Abraham.

          • smithington

            Jesus said, “I am THE way, THE truth, and THE life, no one comes to the father except by Me”. Jesus was either a liar, a lunatic, or He IS Lord. No one ever said/proved Jesus was crazy. No one ever called/proved Him a lair, so there’s only one choice…JESUS IS LORD!

          • Dale on the left coast

            Wrong again Koal-aide . . . Christianity survived “in spite” of the Roman church. The Anabaptists, Hugenots and others. Read Fox’s Book of Martyrs . . . he was there and tells the real story.
            You obviously follow the bible of the athiests . . . the writings of Marx and Engels . . . spawned the most bloodthirsty regemes in human hisory. Will the athiests ever be outdone? Yes . . . izzzlam is fast closing in!!!

          • Effin Reed Tard

            Coal Miner,

            We got the B. I. B. L. E. to set us straight. Those other gods are just trying to copy God (Yahweh) …
            Biblical Christianity isn’t the same. Jesus existed before the New Testament. He wasn’t created by God, He always existed. Them other religions are just phony baloney …

          • http://donthaveone Beberoni

            Satan has a deep hold on you, and that is obvious by your lying man made observations. God created man. Man disobeyed the one thing he was told not to do. The one thing. Do not eat from the tree of knowledge. He was disobediant, and sin and death now entered into the world. Man became so full of himself, that God was disgusted, and Noah and Noah and his family alone were found worth. So God wiped them all out and started again. There was always this gap between man and God, once man decided to follow sin instead of God. God bridged this gap, by making Himself into the form of a human, and leaving the heavenly comfort, and manifesting Himself in the flesh to become man. He was born in a dirty, urine stinking manger where animals lye. Away from home, with no comforts at all. He came, he circulated the absolute truth about Himself to all, and fully knew that He would be beaten beyond the recognition of a man, and hung on that cross, as the final sacrifice for our sins. Mine, yours, everyones. His blood, in accepting them, washes us clean. He said, do not marvel that I say, you must be born again. If you are not born again of the Spirit of God, you have no life. You have none at all. After He died, he descended into Hell, and took the keys of life and death from Satan, and rose on the clouds to the throne of Heaven. And in as much as 2000 years before He came, it was prophesied about this coming, to which there are actual and factual manuscripts of this by the way, He fulfilled these prophecies. And it is also prophesied that He will come again, this time not to serve, but to reign and make all wrongs right. All of you that have rejected Him, when you know inside He is there. He has made that clear to all of you, each and everyone. You know when you do wrong, and you get that good feeling when you do the right thing. That is God. For some of us, He lives inside us, as we have invited Him in. He has taken the blinders off of our eyes and we truly see, and our ears are opened and we hear. Those of you that havent taken this step, you roam in the darkness, with satans blinders still on, and you do not see and hear. And you do not understand all this, because you cannot understand the power and wisdom of God, as all you know is the weakness of man. With man, some things are possible, but with God, all things are possible. He is alive and well, and you will get your chance to meet Him and tell Him he isnt real, and woe to all of you that are walking down that road. Because inside, you know He is there. You know He created you. Its wired within us, to seek Him out. You just choose to seek the things of man, to pleasure yourselves, and not do the right thing, and put the Lord your God first. And one day, you will pay a price for this rejection. And it will be a righteous judgment cast upon you, as He will, give you the desires of your heart, and send you to a place where He will never ever bother you again.

      • http://n/a Mr.Mott

        @JRC
        When I read the title of this article, the FIRST book that came to mind was the Koran. THAT book is the BIGGEST CON JOB in the history of mankind. PERIOD.

      • Effin Reed Tard

        JRC,

        Everyone is going to die sooner or later ! That’s what the B. I. B. L. E. sezs !

      • RK

        You seem not to know that The Holy Bible has two parts.
        The Old Testament and The new Testament.

        The Old Testament has the Mosaic Law,
        and killings.

        The New Testament is a book of Peace.
        Jesus said: the one why wants to kill, shall be killed………
        he is not asking to kill, but said, if you kill, the it may happen
        that you get killed……….you sow the seed of a snake, and you must
        reap the fruit of the snake…..

        The new Testament is a good Book.

        • Kate8

          RK – What modern Christianity has missed is that the Bible is also, from Genesis to Revelation, the evolution of the human soul.

          • Effin Reed Tard

            Kate8,

            What you say sounds cool in a rhetorical way, but I don’t understand your meaning.

          • Kate8

            Ef – Understanding comes with study and prayer, and the help of the Holy Spirit.

        • Effin Reed Tard

          RK,

          You haven’t read the last book in the B. I. B. L. E. ….It’s called “Revelations” . That when God (Jesus) takes control/overthrows the governments of our world- and judges mankind ! ALot of people die !!!

          There is even a rebellion against King Jesus in the end of Revelations after He takes over. He puts and end to those satanic people also !

          • http://donthaveone Beberoni

            Its because He is a just and fair God. He will give us all the desires of our hearts. Those of us that accept Him and desire His presence in our lives, He will give us eternal peace in His presence. Those who live in turmoil, running in the darkness who have no time or need for Him, will in turn be sent to a place where He will give them their heart desires, to never hear His name again. He will judge righteously and in power. The first time he came to serve, and man meeted out his justice upon Him. The next time he comes, he will let us reap what we have sown, and he will spew out his justice upon man, and give us the desires of our hearts. Woe to those in that day who dont know Him. It would be better for them if they were not born.

      • smithington

        JRC, please read a book called, “Foxes Book of Martyrs” if you want to know the truth of who these so called, “Christains” were. Don’t read the Catholic version.

      • Jonelle

        Amen to that. If you can’t read any of those 20 book, you have an extremely weak and suggestible mind.

      • Dogma-Free

        I believe Hitler was also a “God”-fearing man…and look at the things he did.

        Having said that, since some of these fear-mongering folks seem to afraid of these books, I think that is all the more reason TO READ THEM…and then to develop your own opinions on them.

        I mean, hell…I’d even read George Dubya’s book, were he capable of writing one…though most likely, it’d be a colouring book. Meh…I’d probably buy it anyways…it would make for a good laugh.

        • Kate8

          Dogma – Hitler was a member of the occult. A satanist. He pretended to be of Christian leanings to win election. Same as Obama.

          • Dogma-Free

            Kate8 – Actually, no, I do believe Hitler was a full-on right-wing religious nut-job. Having been to Germany, it would seem most Germans are quite religious…or at least, that was my experience. I think the problem with Hitler (well, one of the problems) was that he was convinced that what he was doing was *right*. This is a common problem with ALL religions, I think. I also think most modern ‘christ’-ians want to try to paint Hitler as a ‘Satanist’, because that seems to ease their own consciences, and is an effort to remove themselves from the atrocities committed by their fellow brethren.

            hahaha…just to be clear here, are you claiming that Obama is a Satanist?

            And Obama is not really much of anything. I’d say that he appears to be more of a puppet, who’s been put in place to keep moving forward the agenda that was started with Baby Bush, and the Bush (mis)administration…though, really, it’s something that ‘America’ has wanted since the end of WWII…so maybe it started before Baby Bush (maybe with Bush Sr.?), albeit just at a much slower pace.

            The other thing I keep seeing and hearing, especially around here, where the folks of the right seem to live in a constant state of fear…is that people keep talking about the ‘terrorists’, and how they ‘want to blow themselves up for the 72 virgins in heaven’ thing…and I think to myself, what kind of an absolute ignorant and stupid would have come up with this notion…??

            Has anyone actually *talked* to these people?

            And by ‘anyone’ – I, of course, mean…any of you fearful, white folk?

            I didn’t think so. Of course, that would take a far bigger pair of brass ones, than to just spew out some tough-talk from behind a computer screen.

            So, yeah…I’m not sure if you’ve heard of Deepak Chopra or not, but he has gone and talked to some those so-called ‘terrorists’…or should I say, those who are currently called ‘terrorists’…even though ‘America’ STILL SPONSORS THEM (through the CIA, of course)!
            Anyways, Deepak Chopra is, among other things, a writer of books. And he actually sat down with one of the leaders of the Taliban, and discussed some things over some fresh papaya (or some fruit…it may not have been papaya, but that’s hardly the point), and what came out was…wait for it…*they were tired of being used by ‘America’*…!!

            If you’re not sure what he meant by that, I would encourage you to start doing some independent research into ‘America’s involvement in the Middle East since the end of WWII.

            Anyways, so after talking to the Taliban dude, Deepak basically found out that…again, wait for it…the Taliban people are just people too – people like you and I. Though, they are people who want to see their home country allowed to make its own future, and to watch their own kids grow up, and to have kids of their own, and then watch their grand-kids grow up…same as any of us. So, after 50 or 60 years of having ‘America’ tell them what to do, and not having a military large enough to tell ‘America’ to pound giant fistfuls…they have become fed up, and have resorted to guerrilla tactics. And while I certainly don’t advocate this, I can understand why they might resort to such things.

            You have to look at the underlying message of what it actually says when someone – maybe a father, or maybe even a grandfather – straps a crapload of explosives to their chest, and basically says that they’re willing to die, just to get their message across to the world.

            JFK was America’s last truly great president, and look what the right-wing establishment did to him. It’s probably the biggest shame the Western world has ever known, and maybe will ever know. And then things have just gone steadily downhill from there.

            The sad thing is that the American people have allowed it all to happen, maybe due to their complacency. Well, that, and because sites like this one help keep the American people divided – and much easier to conquer internally – and that’s what the establishment seems to want. It’s too sad, really. Oh well…might as well learn some Chinese now, and get a jump on it… ;-)

            Cheers.

        • http://donthaveone Beberoni

          Sorry dude. You show your ignorance in your statement. Hitler, a God fearing man? And yet he just killed thousands upon thousands of God’s chosen people, right? Are you sick or did you forget to take your meds. Now if you want people to take you serious, you should not make utterly disgraceful and ignorant statements like that. You show your lack of intelligence and totally expose yourself for what you are. Shame on you.

      • http://naver samurai

        More people have been saved by the Bible than any other written work. Also, you idiots are wrong. More people have died believing what it says and by living by what it says. Who is really doing the killing? Is it the Crhistians and Jews who welcome people and treat them with respect or is it the muslims that kill you for being a different faith? Look at northern India. The muslims hate the Hindus, so they plant bombs on buses and other places for their god allah. How about southern Thailand where muslims started comming in from Malaysia (A muslim country) and the Thais welcomed them. Though the Thais wanted them to live by their laws (As we also want in America.). After enough of them moved in, they started attacking police officers, military personnel, schools full of children, and even hospitals full of wounded and sick people. The Philippines on the island of Mindanao is the same. The group there in the Abu Sayyef. These groups are in ways connected to Al Queda. What about these groups hitting targets in Israel with mortars and missiles, though Israel never fired first? How about now in Kenya, Obama bin Laden’s homeland? His relatives are leading bands of muslims to try to take over Christian Kenya. How about how they are killing people for just being Christian in the Darfur Region of the Sudan? How about the countless terror attacks in Europe since the 1970′s? How about the many airline and cruise line hijackings since then also? The Koran preaches that they should do these things to make their allah happy. Sorry people, but the Koran is the worst book to get as a gift. I also think a bad gift is any book written by Saul Alinsky. For all of you idiots attacking the Bible, you really need to do a self evaluation. Don’t take too long or you’ll be feeling some serious heat.

        Merry Christmas to one and all. Happy Birthday Jesus. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

        • http://donthaveone Beberoni

          Amen brother. The Bible teaches us to love one another, to love our neighbor as ourselves. Some people attempt to go back to the dark ages before the reformation when a group of people who called themselves Christians, but actually didnt know a thing about Christianity, wrought a reign of terror down on people. But that was the dark ages, with a bunch of people who didnt know Christ at all, or they wouldnt have done what they did. And those that bring that up, would be the equivalent of saying every German today is a Nazi like Hitler, and that couldnt be further from the truth. However, the muslim religion has never undertaken a reformation, and they have resorted to the barbaric ways of kill anyone who is different that you. They even kill themselves. Christianity teaches to value life, to preserve it at all costs. And so many people in the dark, fear Jesus Christ, because for some sick reason they fear love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness and self control, all gifts that Jesus brings to us via His Holy Spirit that dwells with the body of all believers. And its not an earthly thing, so those in the dark cannot possible understand. To those who are perishing, the gospel is foolishness, but to us who believe, it is the power that gives us life. Things of God, can only be fully understood, by those of God. The unbelievers in the dark cannot fathom it at all. That is why the muslim religion is constantly attacking all, even its own kind, because they do not have the light of Jesus Christ in their life. Without that, its an empty religion. It is written, if you have the Son, you have the Father, but if you do not have the Son, then you do not have the Father. So they can do the prayer things facing Mecca five times a day all they want, and those prayers go on deaf ear, because if you dont have Jesus, you have nothing. I didnt make the rules, God did. And by asking Him into my life and making Him my Lord and Saviour, he has opened my eyes and exposed these truths to me, and to all who know Him. Anyone that knows Him will tell you this is true. Anyone. Amen brother, have a very merry and Blessed CHRISTmas. I capitalize Christ on purpose, as it is His birth we celebrate.

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        You can believe that, and run around in darkness all your live with satan’s blinders on your eyes if you like. Myself, I tried that for 40 years, and reached a point where I knew there was something more to life, than getting up, going to work, eating, sleeping, going to work, and the same old rat race everyday. Huh, comes to find out there is. I got this strange calling for a couple of years, and I kept pretending, you know, that it wasnt there. After all, it was all about me and my enjoyment you know. Cant let nothing interfere with that. But lo and behold, after one too many setbacks, and one too many things that were put there to get my attention, He got my attention. I surrendered, invited Jesus Christ into my life, and the truth was revealed to me. Now dont get me wrong, I understand fully where you are coming from, because I was there. But also, dont just blow me off and think I dont know what Im talking about, because you havent been here. Once you take that step, you will be enlightened, and you will understand, the Bible is God’s word. And the Torah is the first five books of the Bible, Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers and Dueteronomy. As for the Koran, which I have only read parts of, and it seems to me its followers believe in blowing up innocent people and even themselves, which to me is sick. It seems to lead its followers to destruction. Whereas the Bible, is a book of love, that tells each and everyone of us, to love and to spread love, to even love our enemies and pray for them, not blow them up. And it warns us of the imminent end, that all of us will die a physical life, every one of us, because of mans sins. And you will live the rest of eternity one place or the other, in the Loving Presence of God, or in eternal torment with the damned one himself, satan as your tormenter. That choice is yours. You can reject the Bible, and Gods word that is contained it, and God Himself, but be advised, I tell you true, one day you get to meet God and have your one on one, face to face with Him, and you can tell Him then that He doesnt exist, and very lovingly, He will give you the desires of your heart, and send you to a place where you will never hear His name again. Have a good day. This is the word of the Lord. But only you can take it.

      • Cathy

        Wow! I so agree with you!

      • Tess

        Silly boy..more people have been murdered by atheists…funny how you seemed to have conveniently forgotten that little tid bit of info…NO ONE HAS KILLED MORE HUMAN BEINGS THAN ATHEISTS.

        Check this out…
        ATHEISM…A LICENSE TO KILL
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UkZ5fq9SvWs

    • patrick H.T. paine

      Actually, the most dangerous book ever written is Power: How to get it; How to use it! by Michael Korda.

      • http://n/a Mr.Mott

        I have that book! And you’re right,it is indeed dangerous.

      • Effin Reed Tard

        “Power” by Korda wasn’t dangerous ! It’s just talkin’ about the realities in negotiating (as far as I can remember). Another good book to read is “Winning Through Intimidation” written by the Tortoise (Robert Ringer). It’s an advice book on business/life with alot of examples from his Real Estate Investment years !!! Great Book !

        • patrick H.T. paine

          If that is what you remember, then you may want to read it again.

    • Dick Gazinia

      The Origin of Species by Charles Darwin does not belong on any list of “bad books”. Darwin’s brilliant perceptions about how life forms came to be has enlightened the world. For you creationists out there: think a little deeper – evolution does not deny the hand of God, it just describes the means by which he accomplished it.

      The Big Bang theory also does not deny the hand of God – “And God said: “Let there be Light” – the Big Bang.

      The only people who are uncomfortable with Evolution and The Big Bang are those who take literally the perceptions of time written by the ancients. Adam and Eve did not ride to church on dinosaurs 5,000 years ago.

      • Vicki

        Nicely put. Yes I have had my share of religious folk mad at me for saying the evolution is a perfectly good system for our Creator to have used. I to recognize the similarity between the statement in Genesis and the big bang.

        Here is another detail. Free Will. For it to exist there must be a method. That method is in the details of quantum physics. In that area Einstein disliked. “God doesn’t play dice with the universe”.

        The actual quote:
        ————————————————————————
        “Quantum mechanics is certainly imposing. But an inner voice tells me that it is not yet the real thing. The theory says a lot, but does not really bring us any closer to the secret of the “old one.” I, at any rate, am convinced that He does not throw dice.

        * Letter to Max Born (4 December 1926); The Born-Einstein Letters (translated by Irene Born) (Walker and Company, New York, 1971) ISBN 0-8027-0326-7. This quote is commonly paraphrased “God does not play dice” or “God does not play dice with the universe”, and other slight variants.
        ————————————————————————
        http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Albert_Einstein

      • Vicki

        Something else I like to point out from time to time is time itself.
        Our best understanding of this universe places its creation about 14 billion years ago. The creation of this planet at about 4.5 billion years.

        Well we now have a paradigm to help build a theory of how both the Bible listing of time and the discoveries of science could both be right.

        MMORPGs. Yes Computer Games. Virtual Realities if you like. I will choose a popular one. World of Warcraft.

        When you are in that world it appears to have been around for a long time. All of the physics and archeology (yes there is archeology in it) point to a world that is thousands if not millions of years old. Yet step out one level to what the players call RL (Real Life) and you find that the world (Azeroth is its name) has only existed (to the regular players) for 6 years.

        Extrapolate.

        • Dick Gazinia

          Thanks Vicki, good food for thought. Light is our best measure of time. All scientists agree that the speed of light is constant and we have reasonably measured it with very good accuracy. Some objects we can observe in the universe are so far away that it took billions of years for their light to reach us. This gives us a reasonable sense of the scale and age of the universe.

          The supreme being’s means of creation is beyond human understanding. Science can scratch at how things work and contribute to human understanding. Religion attempts to answer why.

          Ultimately, it is delusional to let oneself believe that any mortal, including the authors of the Bible, is capable of truly understanding the infinite workings of God.

          • Viktor Leben

            Dick,

            You made a Relatavistic mistake. You said – “Some objects we can observe in the universe are so far away that it took billions of years for their light to reach us. This gives us a reasonable sense of the scale and age of the universe.”

            That is a false assumption. Light Speed remains constant, but the measure of a “Light Year” is variable. We measure a “light year” against a “mechanical clock”, the Earth’s orbit around the Sun.

            Our Solar System has a certain velocity moving through Space. The star cluster our Sun belongs to has a certain velocity. The faster the velocity, the longer the light year.

            Light Speed doesn’t change – the measure of light speed changes compared to our orbital clock (a year) and is influenced by time dilation.

            In an expanding Universe it’s very probable that approx 7,000 yrs ago Earth’s relatavistic velocity was faster (without major effects on it’s orbital speed).
            A light year (as measured) was much longer …..

          • Effin Reed Tard

            Viktor,

            Adam and Eve would have needed alot of sun tan lotion ! The Sun would have been 500,000 times brighter !

            How do you explain that Mr Frankenstein ?

            I personally look at it as a miracle – God took care of it ….

          • Vicki

            “Some objects we can observe in the universe are so far away that it took billions of years for their light to reach us. ”

            APPEAR to be so far away that it took billions…..

            Here is a description of some of the methods used.
            http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/astronomy/distance.html

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        But its bunch of bunk, and has not been proved, and cannot be proved. You really think with all the science, and all the billions of dollars they have pumped into seeking out evolution and can not find it, that we just grew from a fish or whatever and stood up and walked? Come on man. God created man in His own image. And yet you want me to believe a bird crapped on a rock, the sun fermented it, and up rose a man out of it? The evolutionists even got busted fashioning bones to try to complete the missing link things with the skeleton cycles, and it turns out they carved animal bone to complete the skeletons. Sorry, if you believe it something, you dont need to cheat to prove it. It is either there, or its not. And Christianity, you know, many people dont know it, but if science and the government spent the money on bringing Christianity into the light, like they do science, many would know many things they purposely keep hidden. Like for instance, almost everyone knows and believe that Nero and Julius Caesar existed. They are even taught in school. I remember them myself when I was in school. Yet there are 30 times more original hand written texts referencing Jesus Christ than there are Nero or Julius Caesar, but many, many do not know this. Why? Ill tell you why. The world is satans playground. He seeks to keep those that dont know in the dark, where their souls are his when they check out. He has the media in his pocket. He has hollywood in his pocket. He has most of the politician in his pocket. And he keeps so many in the dark. Jesus Christ is alive and well, and evidence of Him is everywhere. We humans just are too enthraled looking at all that glitters is gold, that we cannot even see God majesty all over the place. But it is there for those who make a conscience choice to look for Him. He is alive and well, and all will one day realize that, as they bow before Him to give an account of themselves. You and I alike, and all will be held accountable for what we do. Count on it.

      • BobbyB

        You’re correct. It was 6000 years ago~

        • Denniso

          The Big Bang was 6000 yrs ago? So all the galaxies,stars,planets,comets,asteroids and the rest was formed in those few yrs? If you really believe that,and I know there are people living in virtual caves w/ no light who do, then you’re in trouble. No one w/ any real education and a mind believes that the universe or even just the earth is that young…it doesn’t work w/ the laws of nature. Do some reading of real science and open your mind to the real world.

    • MLK

      The one book not mentioned on your list is the book that was written by and for the MEN WHO RULE THE DICTATORS. Everyone should read THE PROTOCOLS OF THE LEARNED ELDERS OF ZION. It claims it is of questionable origin, but if you read it you will see just as Henry Ford saw over 100 years ago that the things written in that book are and have been happening. I believe the book originates from the Khazarian people who claim they practice the Jewish faith. Go to youtube.com and watch the Khazarian Conspiracy and the Khazarian Supremacy, and read The Protocols! You can get a free copy of The Protocols on youtube.com. Go to the blue book and click on the British flag.

      • Al Sieber

        MLK, yup, you got that right. been there, read it.

        • http://GOGGLE vaksal

          I read that book,(Protocols of the learned elders of zion)translated,victor E. Marsden former correspondent of (THE MORNING POST) it was and has been supressed for many years,its very strange because so many of those things in that book have come to pass and are still happening in this nation,to me that looks more like a plan,than a written book,i know one thing only,we must be prepared with any possible information,to see the true facts unfolding in this nations history,because in truth history,always repeats itself,with the plans devised by those who want it all,our liberties and freedoms,no matter who.i am an old man but i have read many works in my life,and see the real gifts and curses of all cultures,and all i can say as a child of this republic is MAY GOD BLESS THIS REPUBLIC,and its many peoples,and let those who wish to overthrow this republic perish by their own evil,and i do mean anyone.and also may GOD bless everyone this christmas,with the fruits of their hearts.(GOOD WILL)

          • Al Sieber

            vaksal, history is repeating itself, right now.

        • http://GOGGLE vaksal

          TO;AL Sieber,you are so right,dont know if you will get this post,for i didnt read what you posted until the 20th,but sadly i see the hand writing on the wall,and every american that loves this great republic,is at a time in history,where the very master laws that once united us all is being abridged by this (NWO)bunch,they have destroyed this republic and have set up a police state where american citizens have seen the (U.S. CONSTITUTION AND THE BILL OF RIGHTS) treated as so much old rubbish,well i dont think this bunch will get their (NWO) because it looks like the american people are looking at those folks in power real close,as i said i read that book,and if that book is a fake,its the best fake ever,to many things are so right on the mark,that it would anger the american people so much,they would hang those folks pushing those evils,but i truth the american people are god loving people at heart,but sadly it may come to an end,because everyone is hurting alot from the choices our so called leaders have made,ive read a lot of the posts on this site,and i get the same is felt by the folks posting here,excluding the few liberals that think they will survive,in this chaos only those that have looked at the facts will,merry christmas AL MAY GOD BLESS US ALL.

  • Fulton

    What about “Rules for Radicals” and “Black Theology and Black Power” by James Cone Where do they fit into the extended list?

    • Daver

      Well said, glorification of racism, is always wrong!

      Another book rarely spoken of, though generally credited with the deaths of tens of millions is Silent Spring by Rachel Carson.

      • Robert Smith

        Really????

        And just how dis “Silent Spring” kill people?

        Rob

        • Vigilant

          Through the banning of DDT. Millions have died because of its discontinued use against the insect vectors of malaria and yellow fever.

          • Robert Smith

            Maybe proper health care would have saved them, at least those in America. Do you want to accept responsibility for denying it?

            Rob

          • Kate8

            The world elite did not want to eliminate malaria, as it is used for the purpose of population reduction in the third world. DDT was banned because it was the only effective measure against the disease-carrying mosquitos.

            There are those who have gone into Africa and So. America to treat (for free) malaria using an oxygenation product, and it has been so effective that they have met with continued government harrassment.

          • Al Sieber

            Vigilant, I agree, we’ve been lied to about DDT.

          • Claire

            Al Sieber–Whatever chemicals are being used now are debatable. It seems that bumblebees are bigger than ever. I noticed them this past summer. I kid you not, I really had some big ones on my bee balm plant. I have never seen such big ones. Seems like every bug is getting bigger or else I am getting smaller!

          • Al Sieber

            Claire, I don’t see to many Bumble Bees out here, I used to see a lot of honey bees here but this past summer not many, but, they finally showed up in late summer, they’re having trouble with GMO foods, that is killing the bees, or disorientating them. what we do have is killer bees here. I have one bee hive, and get some good desert honey,I hope to have more next year. do some research on DDT, and Africa, and malaria. it sure fooled me how we were lied to.

          • http://donthaveone Beberoni

            Proper health care Robert says. And what is that Robert? Is your interpretation of that, health care that the government pays for? You see, I have proper health care, and I work and pay for it. Im not rich, Im not college educated, but Ive always had health care, because I made it a point of responsibility to me and my family to have it if I needed it. Some like DaveH made a point to be responsible to save money for health bills because he didnt want to pay premiums, and thats fine to, as he was responsible and took care of it. But so many dont, and they think the rest of us should pony up a little more cash, and pay for them, and that is bull crap. If I can do it, I assure you, any one can. My gosh man, my daughter has done it since she was 19 years old. It all comes down to being responsible. Proper health care is not the responsibility of the government, and if you think so, your dead wrong sir.

      • Fulton

        It is interesting that Silent Spring and Mein Kampf are next to each other at the entrance to the JFK exhibit in the Dallas Book Depository. As one aware of the malaria deaths resulting from the DDT ban, I was immediately stunned by the juxtaposition of these two volumes and the death resulting from each in two distinctly different ways.

        • Al Sieber

          Fulton, that makes sense.

  • Don

    How can this list be complete without the dreadful books attributed to Sarah Palin?

    To list John Maynard Keynes and Freidrich Nietzsche is just inexcusable. You are listing some of the very best and most influential books ever written…you just don’t happen to agree with them.

    Shortsighted, ignorant, anti-intellectual, preaching to the choir come to mind when looking at this list

    • Eric

      Don, I feel sorry for you.

    • Conservative at Birth

      I suppose you would not like books by Mark Levine, Glenn Beck, David Limbaugh, Jerome R. Corzi, or any other conservative authors. Have you actuall read the two books by Sarah Palin? I doubt it!

      • Don

        With the exception of Palin, yes, I am in favor of making all these available. We should all try to get new perspectives, regardless of where we start from. The only reason I wouldn’t include Palin is due to her lack of any substance.

        But to say these are the worst books is just plain nuts. They are actually some of the most important books of the twentieth century

        • Bruce D.

          It is a given that if you like the books listed above you will not like Palin’s books. Nor will you like ‘original intent’ concerning the Constitution.

        • Patriot

          Don,

          Forget about Palin, although I agree with much of what she says and does, which I cannot say about Obama. Read about our founding fathers (The Real George Washington would be a good start) since much of what Palin and the rest of our country believe comes for them! Especially on the anniversary of the Boston Tea Party, guess what this upraising had nothing to do with tea, it was about Liberty!!!! I thank God everyday for Obama for waking our country up, we need to get back to principled people with values running our country. Do not worry Don, we will save you too!

          • Robert Smith

            Hi Patriot,

            Then one might consider: The Boston Tea Party was planned at the Green Dragon Tavern, also known as the “Freemasons’ Arms,” and “the Headquarters of the Revolution.”

            Rob

          • Vigilant

            Ro,

            What the Hell is your point?

          • Robert Smith

            The fact that some of our founding fathers were christian is only coinidental to other factors in their lives that drove them to found this great nation.

            Rob

          • Vicki

            Some? Did you say some? I don’t think that word means what you think it means.
            http://www.adherents.com/gov/Founding_Fathers_Religion.html

      • UncleOtto

        I would put the many books by Pat Buchanan, a Courageous Classic Paleo-Conservative as opposed to the Neo-cons mentioned above

        • Bruce D.

          I like and stand by Pat Buchanan. I voted for him for President and also as the Republican nominee in the early 90s.

          • Kate8

            Bruce D. – Wow. The militant lunatic left is out in force in this one.

      • iowaheretic

        I’ve watched Sarah in some interviews and I think she only tries to say what she’s been programmed to say immediately before each interview. I don’t think Sarah Palin could write a grocery list on her own, much less a book!

        • American Citizen

          It’s plainly evident you don’t know the real Sarah Palin.

          • Robert Smith

            Yes, the one married to the guy who wants to leave America and turn Alaska into an oil shiekdom?

            Remember, she’s spoken to them with gusto for their leaving America.

            That’s the traterous Sarah I see.

            Rob

          • Costa

            What and you do?

          • http://donthaveone Beberoni

            How can he know the real Sarah Palin, when he doesnt even acknowledge the very God that lovingly created him? If he cant take the time to get to know Him, he isnt fully able to get to know anyone.

        • Elton Yancey

          You have the right coment,but the name should have been Obama.

        • Vigilant

          “I’ve watched Sarah in some interviews and I think she only tries to say what she’s been programmed to say immediately before each interview.”

          At least she bones up on material. Obama can’t function without a teleprompter, and has no backup when it fails.

          • Effin Reed Tard

            Also , SARAH PALIN IS HOT !!!

          • Vicki

            The liberals will just claim she is easier to program than Obama. :)

        • RK

          Sarah Palin is The Best! She is smart, she is intelligent,
          she is educated, she is a nice personality, she is loved,
          and hated, she is the best. She is lovely, she is a governor, she is informed, more than you assume,
          she is patriotic. She should become a President.

          • Dick Gazinia

            It is astonishing that ANYONE could take her seriously… as an author or, God forbid, the President and commander in chief of the most powerful military in the history of our planet. We desperately need INTELLIGENT conservative leadership. Media darlings who rely on being “hot” are not what our country needs. Let’s get a conservative deep thinker in the White House. Haven’t we had enough bozos? Do we now need a bimbo?

          • http://donthaveone Beberoni

            It is amazing how scared of Sarah Palin the liberals are. They cannot do anything but attack someone whose every attribute and every turn have been for the good. The woman ran Alaska, and balanced the budget. She rid them of dirty politicians, even in her own party. She got the big oil companies in line. She gave money back to the people. She actually did what she was elected to do, SERVE THE PEOPLE. Now I know this a foreign thing to you liberals, but this is what politicians are supposed to do. They are supposed to balance budgets, and represent and take care of the people they elected. You havent one democrat that can do that, or has done that. Not one. Sarah is pretty, kind, caring, sharing. A family first woman, which is evident by the love she receives from her family. Every move she has made, and every word she has spoken, has been pro-America, unlike this leper in the white house now that has sold us down the river at every turn to our enemies. He has damned us at everyturn, and made alliances with anti American people like Bill Ayers, and practices the Saul Alinsky anti American behavior. Sarah has never done that, nor would she, as she is 100 percent American. And those of you who try to say she isnt intelligent, need to check your agenda’s at the door, because you show your ignorance in saying that.

        • Claire

          All politicians and politician wannabes have an “editor.” I cannot think of any politician that did not have the “help” of an editor in “writing” their book.

        • Kate8

          iowa…I think you are talking about Odumbo. He’s the one who is programmed with what to say. And he needs a teleprompter to be able to do it.

          Sarah has both courage and conviction, and doesn’t need a teleprompter. She has a mind, unlike your empty-suit messiah.

          • Claire

            Kate8— Hang on to your hat, these words will no doubt shock you and libertytrain. I would vote for you or libtrytrain before I would vote for Sarah Palin. Sorry, folks, I want to vote for a person that has some brains and speaks common sense, not patronizing stuff. I want to hear the nitty gritty, and I want someone that does not speak in circles, no contradictory stuff for me. I want reality.

          • Claire

            Dang!!! “libertytrain”

          • Kate8

            Claire – Did you say you voted for Obama?

            Now, there’s a real jumble of contradictions.

            Sorry, Claire, but I think Sarah is very intelligent and tough. She has taken such a bashing from the media that she may not be a viable candidate, but that is because they see her as a threat.

            When it comes to those on the Right, the media is much kinder to those they see as losers.

          • Claire

            Kate8–I already posted a number of months ago that I voted for Obama. And I have to say I am sorry I did. I also voted for the Bush’s. Basically I have voted for a lot of Republicans and I also voted for JFK.
            A jumble of contradictions? No, Kate. I am not being contradictory. I will not vote for a liberal Democrat anymore, nor a Republican RINO, you should know that by now. The next time I vote it will be for a staunch Conservative and I emphasize the word “staunch.” In November, here in Illinois I voted for an Independent and a Libertarian knowing full well they would not be elected but I simply could not vote for the other candidates. It is a shame that people that run on the Independent and Libertarian ballot cannot get a foothold in government. A lot of the really “good” candidates cannot run because they don’t have the backing nor the money. Plus the fact the MSM does not give them any coverage, therefore the opportunity for some good candidates is lost.
            Sarah is intelligent, good-looking, and tough. And she is making the most of her situation, I would too if I were her. I agree with you, the MSM has lambasted her in many ways. However, I just do not believe she is presidential material at this time, but neither is Obama. Sarah should maybe wait until 2016. I think her chances would be better then but what do I know. These are just my thoughts. However, if Palin does run against Obama I would vote for her, but it will depend on what other Republican Conservative runs.
            Besides, Kate I gave you a compliment–I was not being sarcastic, so don’t take it that way. Truthfully, I consider some of the women and men on this site to be just as qualified compared to what is currently in the offing. Seems like I trust some of the people on this site more than I do the politicians. I am not perfect but I know my own mind and what I believe.

          • Kate8

            Claire – There was no offense taken on my part!

            Also, I was not calling you a jumble of contradictions! I was referring to Obama.

            I agree with much you say. I will not vote for a democrat or a RINO either. I think we need to throw them all out, except for the ones who prove they listen to us. Very few, indeed.

            It’s puzzling why conservatives can’t come up with a strong candidate. Well, maybe not, if you consider who chooses them.

            There is only one word to describe what I feel about it all: disgusted.

          • libertytrain

            Well thank you Claire – but of course running for that office would not be something I would do. I love my privacy far too much. How about if you have a go at it – then we can vote for you. I think there’s an opening for a mayor in your town –

          • Claire

            libertytrain–Believe me, I have thought about it! I really have. I think I could get enough signatures, I don’t know. But geez, I would have to battle against the Democrats and the RINOs, and they are tough to beat. Illinois politics, they would crucify me. Literally. Nope, I better just stay where I’m at. I am at the age where I want to keep my life simple, if I can!

          • Claire

            Kate8–Oh, I remember the speeches very well. They are imprinted in my brain forever. The rhetoric of promises is what “got me.” The troops will be brought home in 17-18 months. I thought great, no more Iraq. Then it turned into Afghanistan. The list of promises were endless. Nope, never again will I believe everything the politicians say. I will continue to research.

          • Al Sieber

            Claire, I voted for Ron Paul and I know the vote went in the garbage, it was a write in anyways. and before it was the Constitutional Party. I can’t in all clear conscience vote Rep. or Dem. anymore. you voted for who you thought was the best, like I use to, I find no difference in the 2 parties anymore.

          • Claire

            Al Sieber— I agree–there is no difference between the two parties–it is simply that they have a “different way” of going about things. I read something once several years ago–it was words to the effect that “the two-party system would be the downfall of America.” Dang! Was it John Adams that said it? I need to look it up but haven’t taken the time.

          • Al Sieber

            Claire, I’m not sure who wrote that either, I bought the DVD “John Adams” it’s 5 hours long really factual, he might of said that. but his most famous quote I liked was, “You’ll know how much it cost my generation to secure your freedom, I hope you make good use of it”. that was to posterity. well, have we?

          • Claire

            Al Sieber–Nope.

          • http://donthaveone Beberoni

            Claire, you must not be listening to her. She is as main street America as one can possible be. She is totally all American. Totally all family and God and all the good things we have. She is not tolerance of the people that want to kill us, giving them lawyers and special rights not afforded our own citizens. No, she is America first. And she is very smart and articulate, and when she speaks, it comes from the heart. She doesnt need a teleprompter to tell her what to say, you know, like some phonies do. Your missing the boat if you cannot see this in her.

    • Lee

      Ah really Don?? And how many of Sarah Palin’s books have you READ? Perhaps you could give some detailed examples of how her thoughts exceed the wickedness of others in the top ten.

      • Costa

        Thats just it……it doesn’t exceed it…..they actually stand for the same thing under a different brand name

    • Rebecca

      Don…reading what you just wrote…”Communist” comes to mind.

      • Don

        Communist? I think you have confused disagreement with communism. Not even close. Why is that you insist on calling people names when they offer disagreement? Are your arguments that weak?

        • Rebecca

          Just giving you as good as you sent…You began name calling by saying: “Shortsighted, ignorant, anti-intellectual, preaching to the choir come to mind when looking at this list”

          My argument is strong in that you agree with these authors or you do not agree with their writings. It’s a yes or no… Either you agree with the authors of some of these books or you DON”T….if you agree then you are a Communist. If you don’t agree with them then I am left to assume you name called simply for the sake of argument.

          • Costa

            To all

            What exactly is your definition of communism? I would prefer an answer of the top of your head. Enlighten me
            Thank you

          • Don

            Nope, the terms shortsighted, etc. have to do with this selection of books, which deserves every bit of opprobrium I can muster. It has nothing to do with agreement or disagreement.

            Mein Kampf, for instance, would take a complete nutcake to agree with it, but it is important to understand the information spewed by a man who brought the world to the precipice of disaster. It should be taught in school, and people should really understand the rantings of this individual and how these rantings became the cnetral factor of the Third Reich.

            Again, what is Communist about stating the obvious…this is a right-wing exercise having little to do with reality.

    • jim

      Don, I agree with you. The list needs some editing. It seems to confuse some mainstream liberal thinking with totalitarianism. Consider the source.

    • James

      To blame John maynard Keynes, who is not here to defend himself, having been deceased many years, for the reckless deficit spending and state of the economy is not only unfair; it is wrong! A major point of Keynesianism was that in good times, governments were to run surpluses. Critics never include this, it is easier to blame someone who has passed on then the politicians who are the real culprits.

    • marsh

      Amazing how this little girl Sara can get you Marxtist’s into such a state.Keep up the good fight Obama Boy.You’re exposing your whole unholy movement..by the way,you fight like a girl!

      • JeffH

        Here Here!

      • S.C.Murf

        Maybe he’s a cross dresser, that’s why he fights like a girl.
        Keep it going Marsh

        up the hill
        airborne

        • Kate8

          I wonder if there’s a lacy teddy under those suits.

    • http://marcum@wildblue.net coal miner

      Don,

      Amen.You said a mouthful.Chip,I wish you would mentioned The Bible.Look at the brutal dictators in The Bible,starting with Moses,Joshua,David and Solomon.Here are some of their deeds:
      Moses:Stoning for least of offenses(no respect for you father or mother,saying God’s name in vain and others.)Slaughter of innocent men,women and children.Next;Johusa,Rapist,butcher and killer of women and children,he spared no one.Next:David,lecher,bandit,murder and thief.Solomon:He had hundreds of wives and concubines(whores) and rule with a rod of iron.

      Lets get to the moralities of the good book.

      Noah;Incest
      Lot and his daughters:Incest
      Abraham and his half sister Sarah:Incest
      Abraham and his niece: incest, and there are others,too numerous to mention.

      • S.C.Murf

        coal miner you have coal dust for brains.

        • eddie47d

          That puts him ahead of you! Go crawl back into that pop-corn box since you can’t think outside the box.

          • S.C.Murf

            well ed I was replying to coal miner but as a young child acts you had to have the last word. But the truth is JESUS will have the last word, and I will stand there as witness against you. And all of your disbelief and rebellion does not change the fact that HE is.

          • eddie47d

            Murf; I love Jesus and you are no Christian ,so go pop some more corn.

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          • RK

            the old testament was for jews…………..

            the new testament is for everyone. Jesus is Lord.
            Jesus Christ is the way , the Truth, Life. He is Love.
            Love is moral.

            Jesus teaches love, compassion, forgiveness……..
            The New Testament is a Good Book.

          • Kate8

            RK – You seem to forget that Yeshua was a Jew, and studied and taught from the Torah. He kept the Feasts and the Law, and attended synagogue.

            He did not come to abolish the Law, but to fulfill it, to write it on men’s hearts.

            When asked about the Commandments, Yeshua said to keep them. He also said that the greatest commandment is Love.

            When you understand the O.T., it is every bit as powerful as the New, and is chock full of prophesy, even about Yeshua Himself.

      • Aland

        A careful study of the Bible will find the so-called “brutal” exterminations and genocides were actually removing GM humans (genetically modified).

        They were sometimes call giants. History later referred to them as heroes, titans or nephelim but they were mutants and their extermination (including Noah’s flood) were to keep the human gene pool clean.

        Today we’ve allowed GMO to flood the planet through plant life and are working hard towards more and more animal variants. I expect to start seeing human GM variants very soon. In the end the way to clean the land may be again be with warfare and fire.

        • S.C.Murf

          Yes and these giants were the results of the fallen angels mating with humans (of which God told them not to do). And now our scientists are discovering these bones and do not know what to make of them. We are in the third phase of life here on earth, the third and final phase and most people cannot see past their noses let alone what God has done. One of these days God will tell man to go find their own dirt to stand on for this earth belongs to Him.

          • Kate8

            Aland and S.C.Murf – Since God is not within the limits of linear time, He sees all time…and has arranged the universe to function in planetary and galactic cycles. These cycles bring about creation and destruction, creation and destruction, death and rebirth…

            We are, apparently, at the end of another civilization cycle, and also the end of a complete galactic year cycle (26,000 years). On top of that, we are at the end of a 104,000 year cycle.

            It seems that this one is a biggie.

          • Al Sieber

            S.C.Murf, the Book of “Jasher” talks about these giants, they’ve found evidence of them. it’s one of the lost books of the Bible.

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      • Effin Reed Tard

        Adam’s children married their sisters ! HA HA HA HA !!!!

        • Kate8

          Effin – What a disgusting moniker. Says alot.

          Anyway, the Bible speaks of “others” living at the time.

          Obviously, this interpretation of creation is sketchy and leaves much to the imagination.

        • http://www.thinkingoutsidethecage.blogspot.com africkinamerican

          Of course they did. Who else was there?

          The Bible does not record a law prohibiting brother-sister marriage until about 4,000 years later, at the time of Moses. Little is written in the Bible about that patriarchal period (extrabiblical sources — I’m not sure about that), so I can’t be sure.

          Anyway, as far as we can surmise the prohibition on incest has to do with preventing genetic errors accumulating over many generations. For the second generation of humans, this would not have been an issue.

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        Dude, listen to me, and listen to me good. Your missing the whole point of these guys. Dont you get it? Cannot you see it? God is showing us, that none of us are perfect. He is showing that if he can use these guys to end up doing wonderful and marvelous things with them, then he can use you also. You forgot to mention Paul though, which if your going to attack with your pretzel logic, that would have been the guy to use. You see, Paul used to be Saul, and he hunted down and killed hundreds of Christians, just because they were Christians. He constantly attacked the church. That was all he lived for. Then God came and talked to him, and basically told him, that he was God’s. And Paul became probably the most influential Christian in history. And he was put to death in the end for his beliefs, hung upside down on a cross. If God can use these guys to do wonderful and miraculous things, as they were all loser, He is telling us, He can use losers like you and I coal miner. Only one was perfect and good, Jesus Christ the Lord. The rest of us are mere humans, fallen individuals on a one way track to hell. Yet Jesus Christ waits at every cross road for us, giving us an opportunity to change our trajectory. Now thats what these guys are all about, showing that God can take lost and misguided losers, and use them, if they are willing. In the end, all these guys were willing, and they did wonders. How will your story end? Start a loser, and end a loser? Or end doing wonderful things for your creator. The choice is yours. I cant make it for you, only you can. Have a good day.

    • http://donthaveone Beberoni

      Now I found Palin’s books very well written, and very American. Only someone with an agenda would say otherwise. Get a life Don.

      • BobbyB

        You actually think she wrote her books? ever hear of Ghost Writers? They write books for people who couldn’t spell cat if you gave them the c and a. Sarah Palin is a phony as a 6 dollar bill. I have never seen a more transparent person elevated to her level and that says a lot about the problems of this country.
        She has however figured out the key to success in America. Fool enough people to make you wealthy and she’s fooled a bunch~

        • Denniso

          I agree, she didn’t write the book. She’s making appearances all over the country and doing her TV shows and endorsing people,and manages to write another book in a few months? It may be well written because it’s written by someone else. Non writers take yrs to write a book while a professional can whip it out in a couple of months. But I guess it fooled most of her fans who think she wrote it and sounds much more intelligent than she actually is.

  • Winfield Sterling

    Very good list! However, to include Darwin’s “Origin of Species” in this list is akin to placing Ayn Rand’s “Atlas Shrugged” on a socialist’s top 10 recommended reading. It just does not fit — unless your faith trumps reason.

    • Conservative at Birth

      The theory of evolution is a THEORY. If you believe in it, then that is your faith. If you do not believe in Intelligent Design, I am sorry for you.

      • Oh Dear

        @ Conservative at birth,
        Oh, I suppose that belief in unseen supernatural beings isn’t a “theory” then.
        And that you believe “intelligent design” is provable fact.

        • Polski

          Do you believe that a solid wood table is really all space and fast moving molecules, THAT YOU CAN’T SEE? Talk to a lot of genuine scientists.

          • Robert Smith

            Can’t see with the naked eye, but an electron microscope is just dandy.

            Again, can you show us your god?

            Rob

          • S.C.Murf

            Hey robert smith, you are standing on God’s property. And He says, go find your own planet.

          • Robert Smith

            Have your allegedly all powerful god make me.

            [looking around] Nothing going on. Your god must be busy or not real.

            Rob

          • Effin Reed Tard

            Actually the B. I. B. L. E. is a record of people who have seen GOD. Like Matthew, MArk, Luke and John seen God in the flesh (Jesus). Then them OLD Testament fellows seen Jesus (Word of God) before He was born …. Like Samuel in the book of Samuel talked to Jesus in the Temple and Adam and Eve use to talk to Jesus in the GArden of Eden … Jesus told Abraham that Sarah was going to have a baby, then Jesus wrestled with Jacob and dislocated Jacob’s hip ….

            You have people today who have seen Jesus, like Arthur Blessitt and the Apostle Paul hung out with Jesus in the desert for like 3 years. Jesus is God …

            The word is “monogenes” in Grick language that is translated “begotten” but means God the Father and God the Son are the same in essence .. GOD. Jesus is the “menra” (word) of God in the Targums ….

          • http://donthaveone Beberoni

            Yes Robert Smith, I can show you my God. He live’s inside me right now. If you would have watched me live my life 20 years ago, and you watched me live my life now, you would see God very clearly. Go climb the Chimney Tops in the Smoky Mountains, and look out over all you can see. Witness the hand of God. Watch each sunset, witness the hand of God. Watch the tides roll out and the tides roll in, witness the hand of God. Where do you think these things came from? Its all detailed in the Bible man. Everybit of it. Ever seen man make anything like the Smoky Mountains, Yosemite, Yellowstone, the Grand Canyon, the great lakes and Niagara Falls? How do you think they got there? Are you kidding me. How did you get here Robert. Your a creation, and a creation had to have a creator? I hope you discover this one day here on earth Robert, before it comes your time to have your one on one with God, and you try to explain to Him that He doesnt exist. An oops isnt going to do it at that point. It is something that is written inside of us all Robert. We are born knowing right from wrong. And we are born to seek this God who seeks us. I know youve heard Him calling you. And you know it do. And I just pray your rejection of Him ends before your life here on earth ends, because I assure you, you dont want to face that day man. God is everyone Robert, and He loves you enough that he spread His arms and took the nails for you. Hear Him calling, He calls you now.

      • reason not stupidity

        You say: “The theory of evolution is a THEORY.”

        You should go look up the word “theory” in a dictionary, if you possess one.

        Intelligent Design, by contrast, does not have the status of a theory: having no evidential basis whatsoever, it barely scrapes the grade as a hypothesis.

        I’m surprised, bearing in mind our extraordinarily ignorant author’s inclusion of Origin of Species on his list, that he didn’t also include the general and special theories of Relativity, Newton’s Principia and even Euclid’s Geometry. All of them are full of those pesky scientific-theory-type things which, while they might not suit one’s ill-informed tastes, have the alarming property of being true.

        • Eric

          Please, then, define “truth”!

        • Effin Reed Tard

          I like the “Planet of the Apes” movies. The Chimpanzee scientist, Cornelius, believed that Apes evolved from Humans ! HA HA HA HA !! The girl who played “Nova” sure was HOT !!!

        • http://donthaveone Beberoni

          You say no evidence of God? Really. That just amazing, that we people can be so different. You see, I see Him and acknowledge Him everywhere I go. He is all over, and one cannot possible miss Him if they are looking, as they should be. He watches over His creation, and He is watching you right now. Im sure you feel it also. That is what that feeling is, He is watching over you as you read this now. Acknowlege His presence, you might be surprised at the blessings that He wants to pour out into your life. They are many, I know. My cup runneth over, just as He said it would.

      • Tony

        Conservative at Birth, I love it when the ignorant state that evolution is just a theory! You need to learn the difference between scientific theory and conspiracy theory. As for the rest of the books, they are the source of many of today’s problems. Oh yeah, I feel sorry for you and those like you that place superstition ahead of fact.

        • Al Sieber

          Tony, explain a conspiracy theory, there are 3 parts. as far as Darwin’s theory, there’s still the missing link between humans and apes. it hasn’t been proven yet.

          • UncleOtto

            Well said Al Sieber:

            Evolution should be considered Science Theology!!

          • Robert Smith

            Actually Al, many “missing links” have been found. What are you going to believe? Stuff you AND I can SEE in rocks or your imagination?

            Check out an excellent book called, “Your Inner Fish” by Neil Shubin.

            You can find it at: http://www.amazon.com/Your-Inner-Fish-Journey-3-5-Billion-Year/dp/0375424474#_

            A review from Publishers Weekly:
            “Fish paleontologist Shubin illuminates the subject of evolution with humor and clarity in this compelling look at how the human body evolved into its present state. Parsing the millennia-old genetic history of the human form is a natural project for Shubin, who chairs the department of organismal biology and anatomy at the University of Chicago and was co-discoverer of Tiktaalik, a 375-million-year-old fossil fish whose flat skull and limbs, and finger, toe, ankle and wrist bones, provide a link between fish and the earliest land-dwelling creatures. Shubin moves smoothly through the anatomical spectrum, finding ancient precursors to human teeth in a 200-million-year-old fossil of the mouse-size part animal, part reptile tritheledont; he also notes cellular similarities between humans and sponges. Other fossils reveal the origins of our senses, from the eye to that wonderful Rube Goldberg contraption the ear.”

            Rob

          • Al Sieber

            Robert, first of all I’m a Geologist and amateur Paleontologist, I look at more rocks, rock structures, etc. in one day then you see in a lifetime. fossils, fossil records. I worked on private land around the Petrified Forest excavating fossils and petrified logs and plants, even found a Dinosaur scull, pre dinosaur. I have a extensive collection of Earth Science books, I’ve been studying Earth Science since I was 10 years old, 51 years. I’m not saying I don’t believe in evolution, some animal and plant species evolve to adapt, others go extinct. I just don’t believe in Charles Darwin’s theory, a theory is something that hasn’t been proven yet beyond a reasonable doubt. read Earth In Upheaval, and Worlds In Collision, by Immanuel Velikovsky. and Pole Shift, by John White.

          • Al Sieber

            And Rob, if you wanna believe you came from fish that’s your right.

          • http://donthaveone Beberoni

            It hasnt been proven and it never will be proven, because you cannot prove something that isnt there. Despite all the atheist science pouring billions upon billions of dollars, and they have spent billions on this, trying as hard as they can, with all the blessings God has bestowed upon science over the years, and they cannot find it, because it isnt there. Now in all fairness and seriousness, if the liberal press pushed all the world knows about Jesus Christ, such as his name being in 10 times as many original handwritten manuscripts as Julius Caesar and Nero, and spend these same billions in search of the Biblical truth, and revealed to the world all that is known by most of us Christians, and all the things that places around the world are keeping under veil, there would be a huge resurgence in Christendom. But they wont do it, as satan has a strong, strong hold on them, with most of them being atheists who do not what to blow the doors off of their unbelief, for it it becoming public knowledge of the existence of Christ, which all us believers know without a doubt, as He Himself has revealed the truth of Himself to us, they would be stuck in knowing they are wrong, and frankly, man just doesnt like to be wrong. Especially those in the darkness. Its a pride thing, one of the biggest tools of satan. And he uses it oh so well to keep them his own.

        • Effin Reed Tard

          Some friends of mine say I remind them of a Big Ape !!! I’m a Neanderthal !!!

        • Kate8

          Tony – It’s not as if the literal interpretation of creation in Genesis and Darwinian theory are our only two choices.

          Good grief. There is so much we don’t know about the universe. We are like infants grappling to understand our first glimpses of life, and forming our impressions based on total ignorance.

      • JLC

        Conservative at Birth — “The theory of evolution is a THEORY.” Unquote. So is the Theory of Gravitation. Does that make it safe to jump off the roof of the barn?

        • Robert Smith

          And creationism is a FICTIONAL story made up as part of a religion.

          At least L.Ron Hubbard had the guts to admit that Scientology came out of his head.

          BTW, what are you gonna do about the Theatans?

          Rob

          • Kate8

            Robert Smith – As much as I hate to respond to your posts…

            All science is made up. The universe likes to arrange itself according to how we perceive it.

            In truth, we know nothing.

          • Al Sieber

            Kate8, I agree, that’s why I’m a fan of Immanuel Velikovsky and his works. Worlds In Collision, Earth In Upheaval etc.

          • http://donthaveone Beberoni

            I would fully believe at this point, L.Ron Hubbard is dying for a glass of water.

      • patrick H.T. paine

        The Theory of Gravity is a “theory”, why don’t you test
        your faith that your ‘god’ cares and pray on the way down?

        BTW every minute you waste on the material plane, risks the
        eternity you claim is your “purpose for existance”……
        funny that for all that “faith” and the deeply felt concern
        for others that don’t share it ( and will suffer ) none
        of you seem to be in a hurry?

        Guess Patton was right. ” No poor dumb bastard ever won a war
        for his “god”, by dying for his religion. He won it, by making
        the other poor dumb bastard, die for his!”

        • Al Sieber

          Patrick, “that was no poor bastard won a war dying for his country,he won it by making the other poor bastard die for his”. and Patton was a deeply religious man, and prayed in the morning, and evening, and read the bible daily.

          • patrick H.T. paine

            Gee thanks al,

            So nice to know that you are so meticulous, given the level
            of intelligent dialog that takes place here……hopefully you
            will grow out of it in time.

            It WAS a “satirical paraphrase” with a certain degree of
            “conceptual equivilency”……somewhat distorted by “radical islam”
            and those 72 grapes, as a reward for the “suicidal jihadist” who
            manages to kill more of the infidels while offing himself.

            I suppose at some point in your rather austere and serious state of
            existance it may occur to you, that for our species from an historical
            perspective, the closest we “humans” have come to a “common recognition” of truth is our ability to laugh at it. ( unfortunately
            islam, again seems to be the exception……and the rest of us
            can’t seem to DO anything MORE than laugh, at what is our obvious
            “common recognition” of the reality we inhabit.

            Thanks for your history lesson though, and in the same spirit, I will
            point out that, in the “historically propagandised version” of
            Patton the “movie”, he gets in trouble for failing to mention
            the “russians”…….when the reality is, he did mention them,
            and got in trouble for doing so.

          • Al Sieber

            Patrick, that wasn’t the movie Patton, it was the book. being a sarcastic a$$hole just shows your ignorance.

      • JLC

        A short commentary on the apparent conflict between science and religion: A little more than a century ago, a prominent chuchman declared that, “Flying is intended only for birds and angels, and men are neither one.” The churcman was Bishop Milton Wright, of the United Brethren in Christ Church. He had two sons, named Orville and Wilbur. Today is the 107th anniversary of the first powered flight.

        • http://donthaveone Beberoni

          So in your genius thought pattern then, since a reverand almost a hundred years ago made a stupid statement, which by the way, was along the lines of how they thought at that time, to means then that there isnt a God. Hmm, how does that compute in your little head? That is pretty amazing. So I suppose since Jimmy Swaggart and Jim Bakker and guys like that fell, that means all Christians are bad? Do you not know that we are all humans? That as long as we wear flesh suits we will make mistakes, we will fall, we will do stupid things and say stupid things? We are fallen men sir. Even more proof of why Jesus Christ came and died on the cross for us. We cannot save ourselves. Heck, we cant even get it right here on earth half the time man. But you know inside you, you know right from wrong. And when your doing wrong and saying things wrong, that little voice telling you not to do it, that little guilt feeling inside, well listen to it son, that’s the voice of God trying to get your attention. Listen up He wants you, and you need Him more than you will ever know.

      • Vicki

        I have no problem believing in The theory of evolution and believing in Intelligent Design. I see no conflict between them. I even look around at the current result of the evolution theory to find my evidence that all this came from intelligent design.

    • Bruce D.

      ‘Atlas Shrugged’ should be required reading in school.

    • UncleOtto

      Evolution should be considered Science Theology!!

      • Robert Smith

        What are you going to do with all those rocks and things that tell the story of evolution?

        Did you version of god put them there to sort out the “faithful” from the rest of us who only believe what we see?

        Rob

        • S.C.Murf

          Exactly, you are finally starting to understand.

        • Effin Reed Tard

          Rocks are rocks ! Fossils are fossils ! That’s all they are ! They don’t prove Evolution ! They don’t prove anything ! They are just Rocks and Fossils …

          Right ?

          • Don

            Wrong. Evolution has been been accepted scientific theory for over a century. It is not religion, since it depends on rational thought rather than a belief structure.

            I honestly don’t see any conflict. Evolution and religion inhabit two different worlds, one which is very emotional in nature, and the other completely unemotional.

            By the way, Darwin and Marx’s works are among the most important bodies of work to be created by western civilization. To assign the adjectives “hate” etc. to either is rather goofy. Have you read “Origins of the Species”? Please tell me where you find any hatred within.

            And Marx was essentially an economist. You can agree or disagree with his thesis (I happen to disagree), but is a marvelous step forward in understanding the mechanics of the Industrial Revolution and where Marx thought it was leading to.

            In many ways, this “Worst” list appears to actually be a “Best” or “Mot Important” list.

            ————————–
            By the way, I looked up many of the contributors listed. Can someone point out a single contributor who would not be considered conservative? Would it not be more advantageous to develop a more well-rounded group of individuals if this was to have a shred of validity?

          • Effin Reed Tard

            Don,

            Rocks are Rocks, Fossils are Fossils….

            What about Tea Leaf Readers ? Isn’t a Tea Leaf a Tea Leaf ?

            Aren’t the entrails of a chicken the entrails of a chicken ?

            I think Evolutionist are like Tea Leaf readers or entrails of a chicken readers ….

            Don’t you agree ?

            My argument is cogent – the fossil exists – the rock exists … matter exists ..

            Creation exists …. thus the Creator exists.

            K. I. S. S. = Keep it simple, is better…

          • Kate8

            Don – All belief systems are religion in essense. They all involve closed minds.

          • Vicki

            Don says:
            “Evolution has been been accepted scientific theory for over a century. It is not religion, since it depends on rational thought rather than a belief structure.”

            It was accepted science that the world was flat for longer than that.
            Evolution remains a (well supported by hypothesis) theory.

          • Effin Reed Tard

            Don,

            Choose the simpler explanation ….

            1) Life magically evolved to a higher complexity over BILLIONS of YEARS from non-living matter …

            or
            2) A Creator created all life on Earth approximately 7,000 years ago ….

            I’ll take number 2 …..

          • Don

            I think we could probably argue about evolution til we die. And, by the way, I reject the notion that evolution is just another form of religion. As it stands today, it is a theory which is constantly evolving through research, kind of like the theories regarding matter and the universe. Research is based on something completely different than religious beliefs, (or non-beliefs, for that matter).

            However, my more specific questions concerning this selection of books remains unanswered. Please name me one of the contributors who would be considered leftist, liberal, or even left-leaning moderate. It is a very selective group which results in a very selective list.

            As I think about it, however, I actually don’t think I know many moderates who would be willing to take part in such a list an enterprise.

          • Kate8

            Don – It is impossible for anyone to know how many billions of years Earth has been around. In any case, all heavenly bodies whirl through the universe in orbital cycles, cycles of birth, death and rebirth. Cycles govern ALL of creation.

            Earth civilizations run in 6thousand year cycles, with a seventh cycle of rest. That is where that number comes from. And we are, once again, at the end of a civilization cycle.

        • http://donthaveone Beberoni

          All that you see Robert, is vanishing and perishing. All that you see will one day be gone and destroyed. All of it. All that you see Robert. However, the things that are unseen, those are the things that are treasured. Eternal life is unseen, for now. But it will always be there. Dont be enamored Robert by all that glitters and glows. For it all is fading fast.

  • MsAmericanPatriot

    What about all those books written about gay parents for children? Where are they on the list? Like My Two Dads or My Two Moms or that one with the two male penguins. Those are sick books and should be burned more than anything.

    • kenneth

      I have a fire place for those and that is about as good of use for them as there is.

      • Robert Smith

        OH! Goodie (not)

        A good old christian book burning!

        Bwlieve and you shall see!

        BTW, wasn’t there some guy who burned a bunch of books and Jews? Can you help me with his name? Heller, oh no, it’s HITler. But then heller and hitler seem to have some common actions.

        Burn on, you can’t kill the truth.

        Rob

        • S.C.Murf

          That,s right bob, and the truth will DAMN YOU

          • Robert Smith

            If it’s your version of “truth” I don’t care.

            Rob

        • Effin Reed Tard

          Actually they (The Gentile Romans and Jewish Leaders) did kill the Truth .. But He came back from the dead ! It’s in the B. I. B. L. E. (that’s the book for me) …

          • Robert Smith

            Nice trick but it hasn’t been repeatable. So, it hasn’t been verified by science. IOW, I don’t believe it.

            Rob

          • Kate8

            It’s funny how people are so snobbish and brainwashed by “science”. Science deals with appearances, only. And appearances are only illusion.

            I bet that heavenly beings laugh hysterically at the arrogance of humans, thinking they can figure things out with their extremely limited sense of vision.

            Men are such fools.

          • http://donthaveone Beberoni

            Actually Robert, it can be verified by science. But they hide thier finding every time they get some more proofs, because face it, over 90 percent of these scientists are atheists, and they dont want to have to start all over again with their assessment of things. They are too darn smart for all that. So they continue to waste millions and billions of dollars, searching for the missing link, trying to piece it all together to show we all grew from a pile of poop on a rock. And they will never ever find this evolutionary answer, because it never happened that way. This creation was created. We have a book that tells all about it. It has been proven flawless in everyway. All prophecies in it, have come true, with the exception of the final few, which are the anti-christ being revealed, and the coming of Christ. Thats it. And there is a day when those will be filled also.

    • Don

      My next-door neighbors are lesbians who have a couple of kids. I think they are some of the best parents I have ever witnessed. They love their children and have been nothing short of great parents. Their kids are happy and thoughtful and seem to be growing into well-adjusted young adults.

      • Robert Smith

        Compare that to what David Koresh and Jim Jones did to their kids in the name of their god.

        Rob

        • libertytrain

          Neither one of those men did anything but for their own insatiable egos. Nothing to do with God, or Christ, just used Their Names to accomplish their own goals.

        • http://donthaveone Beberoni

          David Koresh and Jim Jones, did not have Jesus Christ in their lives, I assure you that. If they did, they wouldnt have had sex orgies with every woman in their cult. Are you not aware, that the Bible even has told you about them. It is written, there are many false prophets that will come in my name, even now they are amongst you. Satan has hippocrites in church buildings all over the world, to keep people like you out of them. Pretty slick of him isnt, to poison the minds of people like you, with Jim Jones and David Koresh, to keep his grasp on your soul? Yeah, he is a pretty slick dude. He has you and you dont even know it. Lets search this out Robert, you and God one on one, to prove He doesnt exist this. If your so sure, take my challenge pal. You go somewhere everyday, and pray to God that if he truly exists, that He show Himself to you. Do this everyday for a month. Challenge Him and call Him out. You will be surprise what you find, because buddy, Im telling you. You knock and the door will be opened. You ask and it shall be given. You search for Him, and oh man hold on, because He will answer, and He will blow the lid off of everything you thought you knew. Of course, you can also keep on being scared and act like He doesnt exist, which is exactly where satan wants to keep you also. Myself, I roamed the dark for 40 years, and that was enough. He came for me, I was one of the blessed ones. He is reaching out for all of us, and we all know it. Just some allow satan to maintain his hold, because we are afraid of what we dont know. And what we dont know, could destroy us. You might want to check into it Robert, and find out.

      • Don

        You are comparing two decent people and their family to a couple of religious fanatics? I really don’t know how to respond to such bigoted nonsense, have a nice Christmas.

        • libertytrain

          Don’t think that was what he was saying given his viewpoints, however it could easily be misread by someone that is not familiar with his style.

          • Don

            Sorry if I misread, but what exactly is he getting at?

          • libertytrain

            he is actually saying people of judgment need to leave the lesbians alone — after all look what these two men he attempted to refer to as Christians did using the name of God- who would be the “real” Christians – the lesbians or the two scum sucking trolls he referred to – he’ll correct me if I’m wrong but I’m pretty sure that is what he meant based on reading him in the past.

          • http://donthaveone Beberoni

            It doesnt matter what people think of these two lesbians. They cant judge them. Their judgment means nothing. They have no say so in it. And people dont go to hell for being lesbians. They dont go to hell for being murderers. They dont go to hell for be muslims. They dont go to hell for being perverts and molesters. They dont go to hell for being thieves. There is nothing you can do that will make you unable to go to heaven, except for blaspheming the Holy Spirit, according to the word of God. And, also, on the other hand, there is nothing you can do to inherit the Kingdom of Heaven. You cannot work your way into heaven. You cannot pray your way into Heaven. You cannot do enough good deeds to get into heaven. You definately cannot have other people pray you into heaven. This is all non-sense. The gift of eternal life, is a gift of Grace from God, not by our works, let no man boast. It isnt what you do that gets you into Heaven or Hell, whether good or bad, its what you dont do. You see, its all be done for us, when Jesus spread His arms and said “I love you this much”, and took the nails for us and hung on that tree. Thats it, its all be done for us. All we have to do, is say “Thank you Lord, I need you in my life”. I am sorry everyday for all the stupid crap I have done, and still at times continue to due because of my stupid humaness, that put my God on the cross to die for me. Because I am a fallen man. But I know it, and I can admit it, and I also know I cannot save myself. I am helpless without Him in my life. Without, what is the point of life? There is none. What, to roam aimlessly around, doing either good or bad things, then die and get buried and thats it? Man, what an empty life that has to be for those that live in that kind of darkness. I know, I used to be one of them. But from that day, that I asked Jesus Christ in my life, and acknowledged that I needed Him, I found out what it means to have my eyes and ears opened, as all believers can attest to. Its not of man, its of God, so all you non believers perceive this as nonsense, but I tell you true, those of us who have taken this step, understand fully the power of God and the might of the Holy Spirit, that filled our bodies, and gave us the Light of Truth, that we may truly know. And I do know. Not because some pastor told me. Because through the inception of the Holy Spirit into me, Jesus Christ was revealed to me, as He was and is to all who have accepted Him and Lord and Savior. My joy is, is when one in the darkness comes into the light, and finally gets to experience the blessings God has for you. They are many. God is real, and us Christians need to do more to reach those in the dark, that they may have what we have. Its awesome.

  • http://none Chip Wood

    Hi Don, glad to see you’re still trying to stir the pot. If you’d read what I wrote a little more carefully, you’d see that (1) these weren’t my selections, but those of an eminent group of scholars. And (2) they weren’t judged by the quality of their writing, or even by their integrity or morality, but by their effect on mankind. I’ll stick by my editorial comments. And and by the way, some of the best things ever written came from patriots “preaching to the choir.” It doesn’t matter if you’re not a member of the flock. I’m glad you’re not.

    Chip Wood

    • Don

      “Stirring the Pot”, do you mean adding some comments that you don’t agree with in your narrow world view?

      However, my apologies concerning your other comment. I did not read it carefully and made a mistake there.

      Could you please list the “eminent intellectuals? I assume they are a cross-section?

      • JRC

        LMAO you are assuming too much, typically this type of nonsense comes forth from some religious superstitious self proclaimed right wing experts that the right is so found of, having (lmao) a PhD in of all things superstition…erm I mean religion…what a farce.

        • Rebecca

          You’ve got to stand for something or you will fall for anything. Apparently you stand for “nothing” (Agnostic I assume) so you fell for everything the Socialists infiltrated into our higher education system. Agnostic = Confused. At least Chip and the rest of us KNOW what we believe.

          • JeffH

            Rebecca,
            Here here!

          • S.C.Murf

            Go get em girl. More power to you

            up the hill
            airborne

          • Don

            I think that it is accurate to say that there is a wide spectrum of PHD’s out there. I know quite a few. Some are wonderful and fun to debate. Some are so full of themselves and close-minded that they make high school kids look bright by comparison.

            I’ll offer Newt Gingrich as an example. A PHD in history who apparently understands precious little history but loves to hear himself talk.

          • http://naver sook young

            You go girl! Thank you.

            Sook Young
            Wife of the Samurai

          • http://donthaveone Beberoni

            Amen sister. If one doesnt have the power of Jesus Christ in them, the world will suck you up and devour you, and we dont have to look very far around us in this world today, to see all the tormented souls as satan is devouring them one by one. Its sad, and I know it brings a tear to my Lord, as He does not want one to perish. Of course, the antagonists here would say, “then why doesnt He do something about it?”. Because, He gives us “Free Will”. He is not a forceful God. But I do guarantee you, there will come a day, when He tires of it, and the final judgment comes, it would be better for those who reject Him in that day, if they were never born. He will give them the desires of their heart.

      • Bruce D.

        By any chance Don does a narrow world view have anything to do with a belief in free markets and original intent of the Constitution. Isn’t it a little narrow in view to start slamming people without reading the whole article and trying to understand what they are saying?

        • Don

          Nope. Narrow is narrow. Has nothing to do with conservative or liberal. I know as many doctrinaire liberals as conservatives. And libertarians seem to take the cake. The term doctrinaire doesn’t begin to describe many of them.

      • Tim

        Read the article and google the source. If you don’t know how to google, here’s the list, from the source:

        The Judges

        These 15 scholars and public policy leaders served as judges in selecting the Ten Most Harmful Books.

        Arnold Beichman
        Research Fellow
        Hoover Institution

        Prof. Brad Birzer
        Hillsdale College

        Harry Crocker
        Vice President & Executive Editor
        Regnery Publishing, Inc.

        Prof. Marshall DeRosa
        Florida Atlantic University

        Dr. Don Devine
        Second Vice Chairman
        American Conservative Union

        Prof. Robert George
        Princeton University

        Prof. Paul Gottfried
        Elizabethtown College

        Prof. William Anthony Hay
        Mississippi State University

        Herb London
        President
        Hudson Institute

        Prof. Mark Malvasi
        Randolph-Macon College

        Douglas Minson
        Associate Rector
        The Witherspoon Fellowships

        Prof. Mark Molesky
        Seton Hall University

        Prof. Stephen Presser
        Northwestern University

        Phyllis Schlafly
        President
        Eagle Forum

        Fred Smith
        President
        Competitive Enterprise Institute

        • Don

          Although I am unfamiliar with some of these, the ones I am familiar show a extreme right-ward bent.

          One thing that sticks out at me is that I, having a different point of view, have become the subject of disdainful and very personal comments. How can you expect people to view many of you as “Patriots” if Patriotic only means adherence to your party line?

          Liberals are this and that, as some of you have mentioned derogatorily, yet what exactly are conservatives who are so narrow minded that they can not bear dissent? How can growth take place with such a mindset?

          If some of the conservative posters here were to place their opinions in a liberal blog, I would defend your right and be angered by those who personally attacked you. Do you not have the same ability?

          The fact remains, that the category of “worst book” is very much a subjective judgment.

          • S.C.Murf

            You attack Christians and Christian principles and then have the audacity to say that you are being attacked. How screwed up are you?

          • eddie47d

            Obvious Murf you don’t know what a biased list is or a poll,survey or TV program. If everyone on that list is conservative then it is a conservative opinion. If everyone on that list was liberal it would be of a liberal opinion. Either way it would be one sided and not reflective of how all Americans think.

          • SerfOfObama

            Lol, yes, FAU, Seton Hall and PRINCETON are certainly bastions of right-wing lunacy all right…

          • S.C.Murf

            Where evil reigns there is no growth only death.

          • Don

            Many of these people are way to the right…Schlafley, (wrap herself up in saran wrap for her maaaannn!), etc. and many others.

            But I am more interested in your statement, S.C.Murf, that I have attacked Christians. I really never thought of that, nor was any attack meant. I find such a divergence of opinion among Christians that such a blanket charge would be infantile.

            The fact remains…some of the most important books of the twentieth century are lumped in here, with not a shred truth to it. How could one, for instance, lump together Hitler and Nietzsche? I have read both extensively and although Hitler viewed Freidrich as his progenitor, that was more in his own mind than anything else. You are putting a thug in the same category as an incredible intellect.

            I find this list completely one-sided. There are plenty of books included that are merely listed due to their conflict with the authors’ personal opinions.

          • Effin Reed Tard

            Don,

            That was Marabel Morgan, the author of the “Total Woman”. Not Phyllis !

            What’s wrong with a woman wrapping herself in Saran Wrap ? Some Woman look good in Saran Wrap ! I could just imagine ! That what Christian wives do for their husbands all the time !!! Do you want to convert now ?

          • Don

            To Effen Reed Tard, You just gave me a heck of a nudge, hmmm, I’ll have to think about it. No, I believe it was Phyllis Schafley who wanted to be the saran wrap total woman.

            Look, someone above mentioned that this is a conservative list, and is just as biased as a liberal list. I agree to that to a point, but I’ll bet there a re a lot of conservatives who would find this whole exercise rather embarrassing, partially because of the intrinsic non-value of such a list, but also due to some of the books listed.

            Again, I find this sort of thing quite anti-intellectual and unflattering to conservatives.

        • SerfOfObama

          …oh yes, and NORTHWESTERN!

      • libertytrain

        don you poor fellow – you have already misinterpreted so much – anyone can find what they want to in anything they read, however, that does not equate to what was actually written.

        • Claire

          libertytrain–Good point.

        • Don

          Yeah, I guess I have misinterpreted so much. I have seen a biased and conservative politically correct blog post a biased and politically correct review (compiled by biased and politically correct individuals), which is then blogged about by biased and politically correct posters.

          And that makes me a “poor fellow” because?

          • libertytrain

            :)

    • kenneth

      Amen to that. I don’t mind the idea of people provoking thought and information as long as it is for the good of human kind, not for using us as a experimental act of change because someone can’t live with proven reality as it is.

    • Robert Smith

      Hey Chip, why isn’t the Maleius Malifacarum on your list?

      Rob

  • Linda

    Dr. Spock did not tell parents not to spank. He admitted to spanking his own kids from time to time. He advocated a proactive approach to discipline which requires parents to actually pay attention to their children and what they’re doing.

    • http://Yahoo Rob

      Who quoted “Spare the Rod, Spoil the Child”?
      Wasn’t that Spock?

      • eddie47d

        Spare the rod and spoil the child was in a poem by Samuel Butler written in 1662: a long time before Spock.

        • momo

          He that spareth his rod hateth his son, but hethat loveth him chasteneth him betimes. (Proverbs 13:24)

          • JohnK

            Thank you for correcting the misquote of “…spoil the child.”

          • Effin Reed Tard

            And if your little ones were really BAD, I MEAN BAD LIKE HORROR PICTURE BAD, you could have them stoned back in B. I. B. L. E. times …

            That’s what we need today …

        • American Citizen

          He got that from the Old Testament.

  • James D

    How about “The God Delusion” by Richard Dawkins, and “God is Not Great” by Christopher Hitchens.

    • Godziller

      Dawkins is abrasive, but his books are awesome. I have most of them here at home and have read them all truly great stuff..

    • Effin Reed Tard

      DAWKINS IS A FOOL !

  • RichardS

    The Koran. But before crucifying me… have you actually read it?

    • Conservative at Birth

      I believe it is the Quoran. Yes it should have been included on another list. This list was a list over the last two centuries. The Quoran was written much earlier. It is also a manifesto. Has God ever spoken to you? Do you believe that Mohamed, or any other supposed prophet has actually spoken with God?

      • Carlucci

        I heard a series on Christian radio years ago by Pastor David T. Moore about tell tale signs of a cult. The first sign is someone claiming that God or an angel spoke to them in private when nobody was around i.e., Mohammed and Joseph Smith.

        • JRC

          Or Christianity upon the virgin birth….religious superstition is alive and well these days….when will the sheep wake up and realize they have been had?

          • http://msn Dr.Doom

            Exactly who is Jesus, then, a liar, a huxter(sp), or just a figment of someone’s imagination?

          • Effin Reed Tard

            DR. DOOM !

            JESUS IS GOD …

        • dbur

          The Bible is full of events of God or angels speaking directly to prophets, many time with no one else present, who then relate the message or experience to the people. So I guess this means all Bible believing Christians are just members of ‘cults’. Sorry, you can’t have it both ways.

          • Effin Reed Tard

            When the Word of God showed up to talk to a prophet, that was Jesus ….

        • Robert Smith

          Many police departments use the: “The Advanced Bonewits’ Cult Danger Evaluation Frame”

          It just happens the firs google hit was this at: http://www.witchvox.com/va/dt_va.html?a=usny&c=basics&id=2877

          What I find most applicable around here is #5: “Dogma: Rigidity of reality concepts taught; amount of doctrinal inflexibility or “fundamentalism;” hostility towards relativism and situationalism.”

          Much of the right wing alleged “christian” efforts fall well within the realm of being a cult. Use the link, see for yourself. THINK and you shall be enlightened.

          Rob

          • Effin Reed Tard

            Robert,

            Do you mean “think” (like IBM people) or “think like me” (Robert) ???

            Good posts Robert ! Keep up the thought provoking comments !

          • Vicki

            “hostility towards relativism and situationalism.”

            Interesting. So our police are now programmed to hunt down those who have principles. Nice. (Those who believe in nothing will fall for anything)

          • Kate8

            RS – How is that different from the hostility, closed-mindedness and inflexibility coming from the Left? Except that the Left is more hateful about it.

            It’s also interesting how the Left doesn’t pick on Islam. Now there’s a truly hostile and brutal system, filled with so much hate, bigotry and fiction as to boggle any mind.

            The test is always in the fruit. Does a system function from love and for the betterment of mankind, or is it all about power and control?

            It’s really as simple as that.

        • Kate8

          Every founder of every religious sect has claimed Divine inspiration as their claim to the “truth”. Yet, they are all different.

          We need to get over looking for someone else to interpret for us. We need to learn to understand for ourselves. No one person is more qualified to hear from God than another. He is not a respecter of persons.

          As for the virgin birth, once you understand who Divine Mother, Mary, is, it all makes sense. Most people do not.

          Like the Bible says, unless the Holy Spirit is in you, scripture reads as foolishness.

          • Dan az

            Kate
            you need to read this its starting!
            http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=240621

          • Kate8

            Dan az – Thanks for the link. Jerome Corsi has been on top of this all along.

            I’ve been hearing rumblings that this was happening. Congress fails to pass amnesty, too, but knew it would be de facto once the borders were erased. More deception.

            The government is on a roll, and picking up speed. It looks like we either step aside, or get mowed down.

          • Al Sieber

            Dan, thanks for the link, at least the dream act didn’t pass yesterday, but they have something else up their sleeves.

  • LiarsMustBeDefeated

    Keep on keepin’ on. I might read them. No, I don’t think so.

  • Oh Dear

    Dear Chip,
    By your inclusion of Charles Darwin’s Origin of Species I assume that you must therefore be a “creationist” ?
    If so then you have just lost any respect I had for you.

    • Carlucci

      Chip didn’t say that. He just printed a list of the worst books chosen by others.

    • Bruce D.

      Charles Darwin can say anything he wants but I have a little problem believing by great, great, great… grandfather was a monkey. Although it would explain a lot of things if the human thought process did originated with the monkey. However if it were true why are we not still seeing different stages of monkey evolution. There should be some half human half monkey walking around here somewhere.

      • Effin Reed Tard

        There is, everytime I look in the mirror ….

    • Effin Reed Tard

      I heard that Karl Marx wanted to dedicate one of his book to Chuck Darwin, but Chuck turned him down ….

      I wonder how Groucho, Chico, Zeppo, and Harpo took it ……

  • Godziller

    Mein Kamph, “Quotations of Chairman Mao” belong in the list for sure but should be alongside their brother volume, “The Holy Quran” from which they may have been modeled for style, content and murderous intent..

    But of course you couldn’t mention the Quran in a bad light since doing so may result in your death (if people know where you live).. (I rest my case).

    “The Origin of Species” and “Population Bomb” on the other hand belong more in a list of great, important and good books..

    So it seems that we have a small difference of opinions on some things..

    • Conservative at Birth

      The Population Bomb, is a totalitarian manifesto as well. I read it and am still a conservative. It was a propaganda piece.

    • JRC

      If you want to include the Koran (written NOT in the 19th and 20th century) then you will need to also include the religious fables of the Torah, Bible, and other religions.

  • Kevin

    “Origin of Species” and “Descent of Man” definitely belong. This is a scientific conclusion and not a faith conclusion. Also, “Silent Spring” is credited with the abolishment of DDT, which has killed untold millions.

    • Norm

      Kevin
      Some people would say the Christian Bible “belongs”.
      Are you opposed to all Science? Do you still believe that the sun revolves around the Earth?
      Do you believe,in light of all the evidence, that the Earth was created in a week?

      • American Citizen

        A day in God’s time could be a million years or more. You can’t take everything in the Bible literally.

        • Norm

          American Citizen
          Can we say the same about the US Constitution?

        • Robert Smith

          “You can’t take everything in the Bible literally.”

          Then that bunk from Laviticus about cheesburgers, mixed fabrics, and gays is just one of those things not to be taken literally?

          Rob

      • Effin Reed Tard

        Actually Norm, using language “descriptively” it seems the Sun does go around the Earth. With only the perception of that fast observation, we have a Geocentric model.

        But if one was in a spaceship in outer space, it would seem the planets are going around the sun … we have a Heliocentric model….

        But if one looks from the position of gravity and mass it would seem the Heliocentric and Geocentric models would have to tossed away .. The Universe is a multidimesional manifold — The motions of the planets can be explained by the Theory of Relativity ,,,,

        Come now, you surely don’t believe the “planets” are “moving” around the “Sun” in a Newtonian way ? Hasn’t Relativity proven that “wrong” ?

        Geocentric like model was probably used by NASA in their Inertial Guidance Systems ? Just a guess, I’m probably wrong …

      • Kevin

        Does nobody who loves to spew their beliefs actually seek knowledge before they share? I give up on these chats. My only reply is that I said nothing in my original comment about religion. I suggest you Google “Dr. Walt Brown”. Read his book – cover to cover if you can absorb it. Break out of your evolutionary paradigm and consider just the facts, logic, and science (look up the definition of “science” in a dictionary first).

  • Conservative at Birth

    Chip, I was a conservative at age nine, and maybe earlier than that. I have read all of the 10 books except number 8. I am still a conservative today. I have many ignorant friends and associates, who have not read any of these books. I have copies available and offer them for their reading if they will also read Animal Farm by George Orwell and many other contrarian books. You wouldn’t be surprised to learn that they all declined, choosing ignorance over knowledge. Keep up the good work.

    • Polski

      So not reading these books, which are the “worst” in someone’s or several someone’s opinions, makes those folks ignorant? Get a life!!

    • Bruce D.

      I agree. A lot of people lack interest in reading books even for free and even when it affects their future. That is why I believe in both destiny and free will. There are those who allow life to just happen to them and many of them expect entitlements because of it.

      • American Citizen

        Some of us don’t need to read those kinds of books to know what life should be like. Some of us have common sense. We can see the results of history.

        • Norm

          American Citizen
          You should never fear too much knowledge. It’s the lack of knowledge that’s dangerous. Common sense is usually not common nor sensible.

          • Effin Reed Tard

            Then Common Sense isn’t Sensibly Common ?

  • http://None Roger

    All of the above are, at best, sensational and disturbing. Where they lead to for the impressionable is frightening. Mien Kampf is great example of tragedy written, supposedly by a madman who caused unbelievable suffering and death to many minds so much greater than this
    insane German killer.

    • Robert Smith

      Hi Roger,

      What do you think of the “Maelius Malificarum?”

      It was the instruction book for the inquisitions.

      Rob

  • LynnKCircle

    May I ask why you did not include the anti-Semitic books published under the aegis of Henry Ford and used by Hitler to justify his slaughter of the Jews?

    I also believe that if Dewey and Nietzsche are read critically, a lot of good ideas may be generated by comprehending where and how they go wrong (actually, if Dewey is read with an open mind and in the context of his own times, he will be seen as a pragmatic reformer of education and not as the person whom he was made out to be both by his own supporters and detractors.)

    “A democracy must be based upon the idea that rational people may always rationally disagree.”

    Would you agree with that?

    Sincerely yours,

    (Mr.) Lynn K. Circle

    • Carlucci

      America is not a democracy. It was founded as a republic. How does the pledge of Pledge of Allegiance go? “And to the REPUBLIC for which it stands.” The word democracy is nowhere in there. Democracy =
      mob rule. Look it up.

      • JRC

        And yet, how many so called conservative cry if a judge does just that, enforces the rules and laws of the republic above the majority of they’re wishes…but that then makes him an activist judge…..you guys need to make up your mind what you want to be and then stick with it. The constitution was written especially so that the mob (left, right, religious) can NOT dictate to the rest anything based upon they’re majority.

      • Bruce D.

        Although there is a lot of truth in what Lynn K. says I do not think she reads much about American history and its founding heritage. Most on the left are clueless. She most likely will not understand much about our foundation being that of a Republic.

        • Don

          I notice the word “clueless” used a lot here in association with rather bland moderate statements (termed here “the left” or “liberal”).

          Is this the M.O. of the right?

    • kenneth

      That’s the problem we have today in our society and in our government. We have decided that living life with lies, halve truths, and broken promises are the excepted way of life. I am sure that to this day many of those books have actually formed the ideology of many people who still don’t understand how it impacts their negative idea of good in the world. Yet they will impose there idea because they can quote an idea from a book as if it has the power of truth and God in it, and to some the fact it doesn’t have God in it. For some because it doesn’t have God in it it makes all so much more worth believing it, yet their lives are lived in another way then their ideas. And that is truly where the war of ideas are from. I myself have chosen to believe in words from good men over the years who have done good work, and have received the respect of others because of it. I believe there isn’t any new original thought today, especially about human behavior. We have evolve as a species as far as we going to go. Now what is happening is that we have decided to allow desires to formulate our truths. This will only lead us back someday to what we know today, but in the meantime our desires will be self deprecating. That in a nut shell is what is destroying America today.

  • s c

    Let’s be honest about this topic, folks. Only self-deluded dolts can find reasons to have a use for these books. In effect, such books offer a form of mental masturbation for wannabe utopians. Throw in a heavy dose of ‘we know what’s best for everyone,’ and you have everything you need to know about such authors and their agendas.
    To me, Dewey’s disgusting theories are enough to kick start my gag reflex. In education, Dewey is a fourth-rate politician who dares to think of himself as an educator. A good bottle of wine says the people who saw Dewey as a world-class reformer have much to hide from the American people.
    Dewey would never have understood “garbage in, garbage out.” Dewey is garbage. His ‘fans’ are worse.

    • Bruce D.

      That was an interesting post. You are kind of a no nonsense guy.

    • kenneth

      That was absolutely great. Right on!

    • American Citizen

      As I said above, we only need to study history and use our common sense. We don’t need to read those books. I agree with the GIGO comment also.

      • Costa

        Unfortunately common sense does not prevail in politics and there is a reason for that. How exactly do you study history if you have closed your mind to these books and what is actually in them. If you were not brainwashed you would see that the ruling elite, your Obama your Bush are one and the same. Lets quit arguing with each other and dethrone the kings
        because the only chance we have is to stand up in a worldwide proletarian revolution, that Marx talked about.
        Knowledge is power……GET SUM :-)

    • Costa

      If you read these books you will see that our government and worse world government is on the very path as Marx,Hitler and Mao. You that choose to deny these facts are either uneducated,brainwashed or both.

      • JeffH

        Costa, I think you just nailed it. The agnostic liberal commies have re-directed the thread and most everyone falls for it.

        • Costa

          If you don’t fan the flames there can be no fire. It’s one big freakin fan out there.

      • TIME

        COSTA, MCf mean anyting to you?

        • Costa

          Other than a lot of gas no not really. Enlighten me

          • TIME

            Costa,
            Just checking I know of Costa that used to be on a forum called MCF.

    • JeffH

      Thanks s c. Well said!

  • Wayne

    Evil is the conscious & purposeful use of human nature against itself.

    Good people naturally discover natural influence and leadership so that their influence enhances human kind’s growth and prosperity.
    The power to influence in the wrong hands is a very dangerous thing. Even good people want to share their “influential tricks of the trade.” However those “trade secrets” are assembled by the diabolical, ambitious for power, they become recipes for evil. That is how we get books like “Rules for Radicals” dedicated to Lucifer, by the way.
    Even well meaning books such as “The Art of the Deal” provide unbalanced power to ambitious readers. Such abilities to influence need to be balanced with the benevolence that comes from attaining them naturally. Those who practice such power succeed at the goals they endeavor toward but do not discern which goals actually satisfy them. Thus they often seek greater wealth, power, fame, etc. in a vain attempt to fill their ever growing hollow feeling. They have unwittingly done evil to themselves thus will do evil to others along the way.
    Different is the Holy Bible because it provides first and foremost the benevolence, humility, and focus on the One True God. From that all true human influential powers are reveled. Thus those who posses such power are not only responsible with them but recognize their source and tentativeness.

    • Norm

      Jim Jones read the bible.

      • Al Sieber

        Yes he did Norm, and used it to his advantage to kill almost a thousand people.

        • American Citizen

          He was no better than the Middle East terrorists who misread their Quran.

        • Robert Smith

          Fred Phelps is using the bible to crush freedoms for people in America.

          Rob

    • Dan az

      Wayne speaking of wrong hands.
      Earlier this week, WND reported that on Nov. 30, DHS Secretary Janet Napolitano signed a “Trusted Traveler” agreement with Mexico, thereby implementing a primary objective of the SPP Transportation Policy working group under President Bush, namely to open the U.S. border to approximately 84 million Mexican citizens by issuing biometric “trusted traveler” cards that Mexicans entering the U.S. can swipe through ATM-like “Global Entry” kiosks at some 20 international airports in the United States.

      • Robert Smith

        Let’s hope Obama stops that one.

        Rob

      • Al Sieber

        Dan, I agree with you, I read that yesterday somewhere. Ah!, just ignore Rob there, he never answered your question.

  • TIME

    ALL ~ The Media’s news papers & Now the NEWS telie Shows are far worse than any and all books ever written.

    As a matter of fact more lifes will be lost due to the “Media’s heavy SPIN cycle; than all the books noted.

    So say a hardy thanks to Katie Q, she has done a great job, and lets not forget all the others like Walter Crinklekite, who has done more damage that most can even fathom.

    Three cheers for the MEDIA!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Hip Hop Ho, ~Hip Hop Ho, ~ Hip Hop Ho!

    • eddie47d

      Then you’d have to include Glenn Beck and Rush Limbaugh. At least they are book writers of extremes.

      • TIME

        Eddie,
        In so far as Mr. Beck, “disprove anything he has said.”

        Your not going to have long to wait, I strongly feel you as well as all of us will have no more than 18 months before the United states of America will default, AS IN we are not going bankrupt. we are! Thats in all respects from the post right here that I read over and over again.

        Its just a matter of when Gas hits $11.00 – $20.00 per gallon, and all related food products hit price levels that you nor anyone can even fathom at this moment.
        I feel strongly that the values Mr. Beck has quoted are on the very low side.

        Sugar will more than likly hit $60.00 per pound if not higher. Sugar is in nearly everything you eat, thus the effects will be felt in all you touch, all you eat, all you are.

        Coffee at Starbucks, figure a standard brew will be about $45.00 for an 8 ox cup, and if you want sugar with that figure in about $5.00 more and if your creamer type add $5.00 more at least.

        If that fails to wake you all up, then just think about this for a few moments. This side effect will also lend to the Fray, I fiugre Marshal law will be in full effect by December 2011.
        This should be a fun filled summer coming up. All the while you will still be yacking back and forth about demO V rebO.

        Will you all wake up YOU all did it! You have allowed it, you grew it like a garden.

        • eddie47d

          I’ll take you up on that TIME. That there will be Marshall Law by Dec of 2011. We’ll borrow Glenn’s chalkboard; if you loose then you will have to repeat 100 times I Screwed Up. The same for me. Maybe Bob Livingston can record that date, Dec 1st for us and see who has egg on their face.

          • TIME

            Eddie, thats mine – not Mr. Becks,

            And if you followed the money issues as in the real cost of what we are facing righ now, you would be saying just what I did. There is no other way around it.

            I was in the UK two months ago as I still have an office there, and its changed so much in just the 3 months that I had been away, its not even the same place anylonger, we are looking into closing our office there ASAP.
            JFTR, They are about 6 months ahead of us and 3-4 months behind what goes on with the Euro world.

            Just watch Italy, Greese, and soon as in within 60 days Spain.
            Your not getting the real news here as in whats really happening over there, try a visit and then tell me whats going down.
            JFTR – My friends in Germany tell me things are heating up very fast, as in trouble is brewing and its not with the beer makers.

            Look at just this fact alone – We now are paying more on just Interest on the loans we owe than if every person in the US paid every dime they make into tax’s it still would not cover just the interest alone, > forget about the principle. {MED} Look up what it means, no its not for a Doctor.

            What do you think will happen when people can’t afford the gas in their cars just to go to work? How about when the food prices go up by 1000 % and more in days? What effect will that have on your heating your home, or cooling it?
            That is when your electric cost go up by 1000%?

            And keep in mind you don’t have any food, and your home is being taken away from you and the banks are closing by the hundreds per month.
            Think thats not going to happen within the next 12 -14 months think again.

            I pray I am wrong, but all the signs are vividly clear thats the road we are taking.
            If anyone whats to stick their heads in the sand – well good for you when you pull them out, you will find it did you no good.

            And to anyone who wants to rail on about DemO V RebO is just not awake!
            Go back to sleep your hoplessly stupid doing such mindless spouting.

          • Viktor Leben

            Everyone,

            It’s all going to work out. We will have a bumpy ride in 2011. It all depends on Congress and how they will regulate the Federal Reserve.

            If Congress can stop the qualitative easing (printing of money) and ramp up the gold reserves in Fort Knox – we will be OK …

            You all better hope that RON PAUL audits the FED ! You better hope that they stop the FED from printing all that money !!!

            If you all really want to win – just take the advice of these shrewd investment advisers on this website ! Everyone can put away a years worth of food ! Even if it’s just cans of pork & beans and Spaghettios !

            If you can’t buy Gold -buy junk silver coins ……

            I’m starting to stockpile the lazy man way – I’m buying more can goods, potted meat and staples like white rice and egg noodles. I mix the white rice with brown rice right now – but brown rice doesn’t store as well. LATER ON I’ll just add olive oil to the white rice and toss some type of fibrous roughage like beans or vegetable fiber from a juicer …

            I’m broke $$, haven’t worked for a long time. Most of you should check out the survivor food info on this page.

            And don’t forget http://www.survivalplus.com another good website on survivalism that I highly endorse. Run by that wise man Kurt Saxon !

        • Al Sieber

          TIME, I agree with you, look at the price of oil, and that’s just the beginning. that will lead to riots and marital law, food rationing, etc. I’ve heard the Euro is gonna fail, then the dollar… chaos.

          • TIME

            Al,
            In Europe right now they are in a total crash mode, they know whats coming no matter what the talking heads say; be they media, or Government crap tossers.

            They have grasped that a “lie is still a lie,” just due to the sugar coating thin veinier is now cracking and breaking away like crazing on a 500 year old painting, thus the scumy underbelly is exposed to the light of day.

            I was reading a Europen news paper where they asked the question, {Whats wrong with Americans voting in Barry Soetoro?}
            They can grasp that he is just the outer edge of the issue, and as noted in this article ~ “the people of the USA have lost their souls.” {They have sold out their freedoms for cheep trinkets.}

            {Keep in mind they seem to know our history better then we do!}

            Thats rather telling, don’t you all think?
            The folks in Europe see whats going on here in the US, yet Americans don’t, as seen here posted daily.

            {The mind is like a parachute it has to be OPEN to WORK!}

          • Al Sieber

            TIME, people in the U.S., don’t care or believe whats coming down. we should of followed the example of Iceland and let the banks fail, they’re not tied to the Euro. we’ve turned our back on God, I heard that years ago. just watch oil, and whats happening in Korea. watch all commodities.

        • Robert Smith

          From TIME: “Sugar will more than likly hit $60.00 per pound if not higher. Sugar is in nearly everything you eat, thus the effects will be felt in all you touch, all you eat, all you are.”

          Actually it is high fructose corn serup that is used to sweeten things that don’t need to be sweet. I don’t want it in my spagetti sauce. I don’t want it adding carbs & fat to me.

          BTW, it cost us plenty when we stopped getting suggar from Cuba. Rather than trading with us they went to Russia all because a bunch of criminal Batista Cubans settled in Florida.

          I’d rather have a baseball team from Havana than Russian missiles, but they didn’t figure that out in the 1950′s.

          Rob

        • http://donthaveone Beberoni

          I believe that about as much as I would believe you are going to be the next president of the United States. Not going to happen.

  • Godziller

    On second thoughts….

    The whole idea of a list of the worst books could lead some to think that you might approve of some kind of censorship.

    Not a good idea in any time or place. I mentioned Mein Kamph, Mao’s Quotes and another book as books which caused some strife however, they should be available to be read. How can we be sure to avoid the mistakes of the past if we avoid any analysis of them..

    • Bruce D.

      They should be available but not required reading in schools over American heritage and free market principles.

      • Bruce D.

        Schools should teach the principles of the Republic and the principles of Fascism. That way people would know that we are headed toward a Fascist State. As it is now there is a hodge podge or a combination of ideologies that are presented as intellectualism.

    • Awakened

      “How can we be sure to avoid the mistakes of the past if we avoid any analysis of them..”

      Godziller, you hit the nail right on the head! Bravo, and Merry Christmas to you!

      • Bruce D.

        Something has gone terribly wrong when we have a top official in the Obama administration telling school kids she has great admiration for the cold blooder Mao.

        • Bruce D.

          Whoops-cold blooded killer Mao.

  • Mike

    Book of Mormon. Count the number of times Joseph Smith wrote “And it came to pass”. Truly a ridiculous “holy” book that even Mormons don’t read.

    • Norm

      Mike
      I’m sure that more than half of the world finds the bible to be ridiculous. Banning books is unconstitutional by the way.

      • http://www.missiontoisrael.org Ted R. Weiland

        But not unbiblical – Acts 19:18-20.

        • JRC

          The bible was compiled as a manual to control the superstitious sheep. The current version is nothing but a very small fragment of the original compiled texts that have been omitted because they did not comply with the view of the controllers.

          • ValDM

            Superstitious? Let’s examine where you get your convictions. Let’s agree there are probably 100-150 texts written about A. Lincoln. You believe he lived. Why? HOW do you know he lived? Let’s then examine how many texts were written about God: more than 1500. Yet you still claim He doesn’t exist. Whose logic is at stake here? Yours or mine?

          • Robert Smith

            We have pictures of Linclon.

            How many pictures of your god are there?

            How many recordings? (BTW, as a Ham when I wear headsets the voices in my head are real.”

            For old Abe there are plenty of pictures. For George Washington, his reality was passed by tangable objects passed from person to person and his body is at Mt. Vernon.

            Rob

          • eddie47d

            ValDM; There are thousands of books on rocks so what does the number have to do with anything?

          • Effin Reed Tard

            Robert,

            The B. I. B. L. E. is the answer to your search for proof.

      • Bruce D.

        Norm I am not disagreeing with you on that but I have read the Constitution many times and I am not sure which part of the Constitution is about banning books. It would be interesting to take a look at that.

        • Norm

          Bruce D.
          Unfortunately I think you’re correct on that. Books have actually been banned by the US.
          The Constitution does have it’s flaws.

          • Robert Smith

            I’ve heard of “Banned in Boston” but I’m not of any books banned by America.

            Rob

          • Costa

            Unfortunately it wont matter what the constitution says as we are being herded to a world government much like the EU. Wait a minute the EU doesn’t have a constitution……thats how much they care about individual rights and freedom for the people.

            Can you say no right to bear arms.

            Very limited freedom of speech

            very very very difficult to have your say in a fair court

            If you are a free thinker…..you will be silenced

      • patrick H.T. paine

        Irwin Schiff will be happy to hear that!

  • http://www.diyyardandhome.com Dan

    My list would include just about any book they required me to read in school way back when. I wanted to read Tom Swift and the Hardy Boys and they wanted me to read poetry and stuff and I never did see any redeeming quality to poetry. I was always so happy when I could find a Cliff Notes and a book that was required reading.

    • Bruce D.

      I understand completely Dan as I felt the same way but in some ways you cheated yourself. Sometimes you find one that touches you in a way you do not expect and you don’t forget it.

    • Robert Smith

      Some poetry is great. Check this one out: http://freemasonry.bcy.ca/biography/service_r_w/dan_mcgrew.html

      Rob

  • DDavis

    Time was in American history that there were boosters of the philosophy known as “Social Darwinism. Under this theory, the fittest would be allowed to survive and thrive the weak and unproductive would be allowed to die. Social Darwinism gained many believers in the USA. There was a book on Social Darwinism that sold many copies in England and the USA.

    I have read that Social Darwinism seemed well on its way to becoming the basic belief of large numbers of Americans. However, there was a major Christian event known as the “Great Awakening”, led by Rev.
    George Whitefield.

    Social Darwinists had no use for Christian teaching. They took a pitiless attitude toward the sick and the weak.

    Dishonorable mention ought to go to the widely read earlier generation books about social Darwinism.

    • Rebecca

      Sounds kinda like Obama’s Health proposal huh?

      • Bob Wire

        good humor Rebecca ! funny

  • Ron

    Many of these books are allowed in our schools and universities, but we still have problems with allowing the Bible in? Sounds like they need to include them with the Bible the next time they have a symbolic book burning session.

    • Norm

      Ron
      With all the churches in this country, why do we need bible classes in public schools?

      • Bruce D.

        A lot of kids in the inner cities do not go to church. At the very least manners, ethics, and goodwill toward others should be required education in our schools.

        • Norm

          Bruce D.
          When I was a kid we got a few hours off per week to be bussed to the church of our parents choosing for “religious instructions”. Those who chose not to go attended an in-school class called Manners and Morals. It was a pretty fair system.

          • Bruce D.

            It sounds like something we should take another look at.

          • Claire

            Considering the subjects of religion and the education system–I am so happy my kids went to Lutheran schools. Thank the good Lord I made that decision.

    • eddie47d

      Ron; Who advocates for the burning of books in America certainly not liberals. We’ll leave that up to a handful of screeching pastors. I bet every college or university in America has more than one Bible on it’s shelf’s.

      • Vicki

        Interesting. Liberals may not be actively pushing for the burning of (some) books but they sure like to disrupt speeches by conservatives.
        Here is just one example
        http://www.examiner.com/frisco-conservative-in-denver/is-freedom-of-speech-dying-on-today-s-college-campuses

        • Denniso

          It’s almost always the rightwing religionists who ban books they see as anti religion or pro human rights or anti American.

          • Kate8

            Denniso – Back up that statement. And I mean in modern history.

            Examples, please.

          • Kate8

            Denniso – They might recommend against their members partaking of certain books or movies, but that is not the same as “banning” them. They don’t have the power to do that, anyway.

            The whole idea is to preserve the children from corrupting influences. The decision lies with the parents.

          • Denniso

            Umm, no. They force some libraries and schools to ban certain books,and not always for any ‘corrupting’ influence. I agree that kids should read age appropriate books and the same for movies or video games. Librarians should watch what books kids check out,but banning books entirely is extreme,except in rare cases.

            How about parents who take their kids into R rated movies? Violence,sex,language that is totally inappropriate for kids. Video games w/ graphic violence and sexual situations that most kids are allowed to play?

          • Vicki

            Denniso she asked you for proof or at least evidence. Since you have provided none in any of your responses we will presume you were storytelling (Again).

          • Denniso

            Those who pay attention to the world know what’s going on. I’m not about to waste my time on finding ‘proof’ for the obvious,and then have it challenged anyway. If she or you want to educate yourselves I’m sure you could look up the info. Merry Xmas…

      • denniso

        It’s common knowledge…religious groups,churchs,so called family values groups, all engage in banning or censoring movies and books. Harry Potter was recently banned by some church group. By definition,liberals almost never ban books or movies since they believe in ‘liberal’ values and education,which means remaining open to varied aspects of the world. If you want to research the issue because you don’t know the truth of it,go ahead. You’ll find I’m right.

        • Kate8

          My answer posted in the wrong place. See above.

        • Kate8

          denniso – Are you kidding me? What about all the schools and work places that have banned the Bible and anything referring to God or Christ? Kids have been suspended from school for carrying it.

          BTW, the Bible has been banned in Canada for some time now.

          The ACLU goes out of their way to ban ANYTHING that refers to God. They even tried to ban people from wearing cross pendants!

          • Kate8

            What about the children who have been persecuted for mentioning God or Jesus in their writing, speech or artwork?

          • Claire

            Kate8—Good comment.

          • Robert Smith

            Hey Kate8, you posted: “The ACLU goes out of their way to ban ANYTHING that refers to God. They even tried to ban people from wearing cross pendants!”

            How do you feel about a kid wearing a pentical to school?

            Rob

          • Kate8

            Robert Smith – I don’t believe any such things should be banned. This is America.

            People have worn crosses, pentacles, Stars-of-David, ankhs, and all manner of symbolic jewelry for as long as I can remember. Those things carry personal meaning to the wearer, and are no one else’s business.

          • Al Sieber

            Kate8, Rob is just trying to stir you up.

          • Denniso

            Kate8…the bible is banned in Canada? You mean that kids can’t take it to school but it certainly isn’t banned from city libraries or anywhere else in the country. Kids can take a bible anywhere except school,because the bible is the Christian holy book. Banned? No,just not permitted in school like the Koran.

  • Norm

    I confess that the only books I’ve read on your list are Mein Kampf, The Kinsey Report, and The Origin of Species.
    Mein Kampf impressed me as being terribly written and wildly convulsive.
    The origin of Species was probably one of the greatest books ever written, and The Kinsey report was very clinical and a little boring.
    The important thing is that all books are good and all knowledge is valuable. In fact books are opinions and theories that you can love or hate, agree with or oppose.
    Sticking ones head in the sand and ignoring all ideas but your own is simply stupid.
    It’s this intolerance and fear that has led to many of the disasters in world .
    Remember it was Hitler and the Nazis who burned books and rewrote history to their own satisfaction.

    • Polski

      Well, Americans, British, French, Spanish, Japanese, Chinese, Soviets, etc. etc…REWRITE HISTORY TO THEIR SATISFACTION!!!!

      • Robert Smith

        I still call the airport on the GW parkway just south of Washington “National” airport in honor of our country, not “Reagan” as part of worshiping a medium actor and marginal president.

        Who is rewriting history?

        Rob

        • Denniso

          With all the scandals of the Reagan presidency and his sadly demented state in the last yrs of his term,the rightwing needed to get to work quickly to polish up his image so they could have a modern president to represent the party…after Nixon and Ford(who wasn’t so bad anyway)they were desperate to change the party image and the only candidate for the position was Reagan. They conveniently ignore his wife using astrology to schedule his presidency,Iran-contra scandal,dealing w/ the Iranians to keep the American hostages jailed until his inauguration day,invading little Grenada…and more.

  • Butch

    In a world of total denial of the truth and where political correctness counts everything, I love reading your refreshing Digest.

    • Polski

      I love reading “your refreshing digest” because it’s hilarious. Still trying to overcome Dubya, Nixon, Reagan, Hoover, etc. etc…….

  • Steve Marcus

    “The Silent Spring” by Rachel Carson led to the ill-advised ban on DDT which led to over 50,000,000 deaths in third world countries due to malaria. None of the books on the 10 worst list did that much damage, damage which continues killing to this day.

    Not far behind that would be anything that blames human existence for meaninful climate change – hotter, colder, stormier – whatever.

    • Pete0097

      The ban on DDT did improve the life of the BALD EAGLE from almost extinction to a major comeback getting off the endanger species list. The Africans still use it.

      • JRC

        Anyone that puts the well being of an animal over the well being of an human can not be considered human and should be shunned by society.

        • Bruce D.

          Wow! That was a powerful post.

        • Oh Dear

          @JRC,
          Do you really think you’re not an animal then?

        • Yvan

          JRC
          This is the most stupid comment that I have read for a long time. If you believe in intelligent design, this planet was a paradise until the devil created the human race to destroy it. My friend if you don’t love animals you’re a sick individual.

        • Claire

          JRC–Then you better shun me. There have been many times that I have placed an animal’s welfare over that of a human being. Especially when the person is a lousy example of a human being. An animal in the wild can take care of themselves for the most part. A domesticated animal is at the mercy of humans. Same with human beings, they can help themselves too unless something tragic befalls them. And then there are human beings that leech off others.

          • Kate8

            Claire, I don’t think I’ve ever had to make that choice, but I do think better of my animals, and animals in general, than I do of many people.

            Sad, isn’t it?

          • Claire

            Kate*–It is sad. I remember with my 2nd litter of Shorthairs, I sold “Callie” to a school teacher here in town. A young man fresh out of college and he had landed a teaching position right away. He seemed so personable and nice. I always put in my sales contract that the pup is not to be chained in the back yard, and the yard must be fenced. He lied to me–he said his back yard was fenced in. For some reason, after a week or so went by, I started having the good old “gut feeling.” The following day I drove past his house about 4:30 p.m. (he was home) and I saw the dog chained up in the back yard, no fencing. I knocked on his door, and I asked him why he lied to me. He had no valid answer. I gave him his money back–wrote out the check and took the dog. To some people this may sound harsh, but a bird dog should never be chained in a back yard. No sporting dog deserves that–it makes them nutty.
            Plus the fact back in the early 70s I turned in an FBI agent–he was my neighbor and had just moved in, he had a German Shephard and he was beating it with the buckle end of a belt. I tried to stop him, but he turned on me and said ” I’m an FBI agent and I can do what I want.” I told him I didn’t care who he was, he was not going to beat the dog anymore. I went in the house and called the police. Of course, the police were worthless when they found out he was with the FBI. I do not know what happened to the dog, I didn’t see him ever again. Needless to say, I was thankful he moved away.

  • Rob

    Bible.
    Koran.
    Both used to justify any act of bastardry for hundreds of years.

    • Vicki

      I take it you blame guns for murder too then?

  • lacey

    Banning, burning or not recommend that a CERTAIN BOOK/KINDS OF BOOKS is just stupid! Read and disagree, but not to read because YOU THINK it is not of ‘your’ liking? That’s what we need to avoid, a one person ruled world!
    If opinions are like butt-holes and everyone has one, then the advocate of not reading CERTAIN KINDS OF BOOKS is an A-HOLE!

    • Costa

      right on brother….stay a free thinker.
      Anybody that can come to a conclusion without assessing the facts is a damn fool

  • Bob Wire

    No, I try not to read bad books refusing to fight my way through one. I’m cursed enough with “having to read” tech manuals and code books but I did listen to Shara Palin’s voice for 30 minutes as I viewed her TV program and it made me wanted to stomp baby chickens. Does that count?

    • oldtimeyman

      Funny thing, Bob Wire. Hillary’s voice does the same thing to me.

      • Bob Wire

        LOL! well we see no need of being envious of Bill or Todd do we?

        I wish them two men the very best! I couldn’t handle it long enough to enjoy it.

  • nehope

    Good list. Even the worst books are worth reading if one wants to have an opinion which is based on critical observation. Reading only “GOOD” books does not change the fact that there is a lot of evil in this world. By balancing the good with the bad, the reader can than form an opinion which may or may not be to his or her advantage.
    One of the ALL TIME worst books would be the “BIBLE”. This piece of “creative work” authored by many and hundreds of years apart is full of: Absurdities, Atrocities, Contradictions, Vulgarities and Fallacies. It has been the best selling book ever. Religion can be harmful for your health, aspecially for your MENTAL health. W.

    • http://OprahtheSCUMARTIST Jean

      If you can not accept anything else – then think of the Holy Bible as a training manual for people who would like to have a peaceful existance. The Evil done – is mans doing (we allto open your heart – seems like your soul needs a little fresh air.

      • Bob Wire

        You correct Jean, that’s exactly what the bible is, a training manual and it needs to come with a manual to read it!

        I wish more people seen it in that light.

        It’s not light reading but requires years of study and debate. If you are not willing to invest the time, it offers conflict and confusion and little enlightenment. Otherwise, it all human drama of the most intense kind.

        For lite readers, stick with the gospels, Matthew, Mark, Luke and John and stay to hell away from Revelations.

    • David

      Nehope….Let’s see if you believe that on Judgement Day

      • Bob Wire

        Judgment Day? “my” final answer would be Yes & No.

        No,~ not as it is written, with pageantry and fanfare, throne and all. That’s metaphor for the simple mind to grasp and open the door of comprehension.

        Yes, in that; did you learn something from your physical experience and are you ready for the next level of existence? You will receive your just rewards. ( which is another topic and requires another question)

  • Pete0097

    You forgot the Quoran by the pedofile, womanizing, lying woman beating Mohammad

    • nehope

      True, I have no use for either of these frauds. In fairness, it is said that Mohamed considered himself a PROPHET, Jesus Christ professed to be the Son of God.
      Since I was not there and actually heard what they said, I would have to file that under “fairy tales”.
      I only believe what I see, and even little of that.
      any religion is good, but the dumbest is the best. W.

    • Rick

      Mohammed started the Muslim religion with the express intention of destroying the people of his great grandfather Abraham, the Jews. His grandfather Ishmael (Hebrew for Wildman) was Abraham’s illegitimate son by Hagar.

  • Commonsense

    All the books shown are free to read, if you wish in this country. But by the look of things, everyone here wishes to ban things, be it religion or non religion, books, thoughts, sad really. The whole point of this list of books is, in my opinion, is if you don’t like it, make your own damn list and post it on a website.

  • newspooner

    Scholars on our side might also wish to research “The Price of Liberty” by Herbert Agar. As I remember, it was an attrocious propaganda piece by a closet communist college professor, telling us that we need to give up lots of ours freedoms to have “liberty”. Juan Peron Obama reminds me of that kind of nonsense thinking.

  • FreedomFighter

    1. What do all these evil smuck books have in common?

    They denie, dismiss or eliminate god and replace it with the state.

    2. Why?

    Without God DEMOCRACY will not and cannot long endure. –RR

    Laus Deo
    Semper Fi

    • JRC

      Rubish

    • patrick H.T. paine

      Good thing we are a “republic” then, huh?

      a “constitutional republic” with “liberty and JUSTICE, for all.”

      ooooops…….never mind.

    • Vicki

      Democracy is 2 wolves and a lamb voting on dinner. I think I will stick with a Constitutionally LIMITED Republic (Rule of law) thanks. :)

  • Costa

    “public-policy leaders”
    I can understand why they fear these books or they become labeled evil, garbage or bad communist fascist propaganda. If you read these works and truly understand them you will learn how what we condemn on the surface as evil are exactly hand in hand with what our elected officials are doing to us now and for centuries. The goals and processes that bring these ideas into todays reality are one and the same Republican or Democrat. Do not be fooled into the division game. It is simply a distraction.

    1. The Communist Manifesto by Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels
    the systematic slaughter of entire populations as a means of consolidating and preserving state power. Of course the “withering away of the state,” as promised in the Manifesto, has never occurred anywhere communism has been tried.

    not communism but it is being fulfilled covertly through our so called DEMOCRATIC governments world wide. This sure is the pot calling the kettle black

    2. Mein Kampf by Adolf Hitler
    How do men like this so easily come to power? I don’t know. The same answer will reveal how European heads of state and World governing bodies as well as the U.s. put the people they do into power. This was just one mans skewed vision of a world united very similar to the goals of the new world order of today.

    6. Das Kapital by Karl Marx
    Marx portrayed capitalism as merely an ugly phase in human development, in which capitalists exploit labor by paying the cheapest wages possible to amass as much wealth as possible.Such injustice would end, Marx said, in a worldwide proletarian revolution.

    This is a page out of modern US politics and the united Europe.

    These books and the people that wrote them are so far out from our views and reality of the world. Are they though. You would be shocked to understand that what our western governments are doing to us is exactly the same and worse. Hopefully enough free thinkers can turn the tide before it’s too late. We are being herded, medicated and indoctrinated.

  • Moby

    Chip, your list is just amazingly comical. If you want books that have led to the slaughter of 100s of millions of people, you only need to look to the various religious texts that zealots have used to justify genocide since the earliest days of the Jews in Phillistine. Bottom line, the Crusaders & Muslims used the Bible & Koran to justify their genocides in the Crusades just like Stalin used the Communist Manifesto to justify his genocide in WWII. Don’t blame the books, blame the reader. BTW, Betty Freidan?? Geez.

    • FreedomFighter

      In the modern world only Muslims extremist, and communist goverments justify genocide, but thanks for the 500 year old history lesson.

      Laus Deo
      Semper Fi

      • Rebecca

        Read the 100 page Health Care proposal by Obama….we are headed that way and if you don’t believe then you JUST drank the kool-aid.

        • oldtimeyman

          Agreed. Obama’s form of genocide is what I call gentle genocide. Fedgov will probably kill off us old folks through his un-godly health care laws by denying medicines and medical procedures with his so-called death panels. Why waste a bullet on grandmaw when all you have to do is deny her blood pressure medicine. Priorities, you know.

          Now the social planners are going after our food supply. When the day comes that backyard gardens are outlawed and fined and we are totally at the mercy of agri-business, we are as good as dead. Wasn’t it Kruschev who was called the “butcher of the Ukraine” for his agrarian policies? He starved what – 23 million people to death in the bread-basket of the USSR. Aaaah – gentle genocide – ain’t it wonderful.

          And for those who think these are the rantings of a senile, senior citizen, may I remind you that the One-Worlders have already publicly stated they intend to reduce the world’s population to between 350 million and 500 million people. That’s a “kill-off” of about 7/8ths of the world’s population.

          • nehope

            Right on. WW3 will take care of it. They are working on it and they most likely will succeed. W.

          • Rebecca

            Oldtmeyman, you are very wise. And when the genocide occurs what will we be without wisdom of those, such as yourself, who have lived and learned? There will be nobody to mentor and guide young people. Those who ignore history are doomed to repeat it. Case in point, recently, my 94 year old dad, who has congestive heart failure was taken off his medication by his cardiologist. His words to me were, “Let’s let nature take it’s course”. Withdrawing this medication made my father feel worse because he was drowning in fluid. I took him to his Internist, got another prescription for the medication and gave it to him against the “sold out to the establishment” Cardiologist. Genocide. You are so right.

          • Denniso

            There are NO DEATH PANELS in the healthcare bill! That’s just absurd and has been disproven over and over,if you would open your eyes and quit listening to propaganda.

            Obama and the Dems are trying to help all Americans live better and in less fear of bankruptcy and keep the gov’t and business solvent for the long term. The rightwing has stalled and obstructed healthcare reform for decades and now when something is finally done to help the unsustainable situation,you people scream like you’re being marched to prison in shackles.

          • Claire

            Denniso–Health Reform should not be forced on people-have you ever considered the fact there are people in America that cannot AFFORD to buy it? This is not right. As I stated before, I knew health reform would pass but they just had to take out the public option, didn’t they! Medicare will cut back, and if a senior citizen does not have a supplement, they will suffer. They simply will not go to a doctor, and a lot of them probably will die. I have heard these comments already from people I know. So now I am inclined to agree about the “death panel.” My husband and I have a supplement and we just received notification that the premium has been increased because Medicare will be cut back. This health reform caused the majority of insurance companies to increase their premiums. The economy, the jobs issue, the mess in Iraq, and closing our borders should have been taken care of first. The Welfare System has taken care of the children, don’t you think?

          • Denniso

            Hi Claire…I’m totally against the mandates to buy insurance,but the republicans were in favor of it earlier and Obama had a deal w/ the ins industry that they would only go along w/ reform if there were mandates…and the republicans fought against all reform and the public option as well as single payer which would be funded by taxes and no one would be forced to buy ins,so Obama and the Dems went w/ what they could get.
            Under the plan,those who are below a certain income level would get subsidies to buy ins.

            The insurance premiums have been going up at about 10%/yr w/o any reform for the past 30 yrs…the industry doesn’t need any excuse like this new plan to raise rates,they have been doing it continually anyway.
            I think Obama and the Dems should have fought tooth and nail for a single payer plan or at least the public option,but they made a calculated decision that they had to go w/ what they thought they could pass.
            If the Repubs had cooperated even slightly we could have a good plan,but they stood up against any reform to please their industry bedfellows and we get a half baked plan.
            I’m hoping the supreme court finds the mandates unconstitutional and we get a better plan as a result. But probably it will mean the demise of any reform plan and we will once again be entirely at the mercy of the medical and insurance industry. Pitiable waste of time and energy.

          • Claire

            Denniso–The words “something is better than nothing” does not apply to Health Reform. I really think they should have dropped it until such time there would/could possibly be a meeting of the minds (if ever) and pass health reform in the correct manner. Instead, they proceeded. I think this is where the administration went wrong, it should have been shelved until such time a decent piece of legislation could have been presented. And if it never came to be, then so be it. There are so many other issues that should have been taken care of first. Jobs and the economy should have been tackled immediately. If people had jobs, they could possibly afford health care. And if they didn’t purchase insurance coverage, then oh well. People cannot be forced to do something if they don’t want to do it. I know I personally do not want to be forced to do anything I don’t want to do, I want to do as I please.

          • Claire

            Denniso–You mentioned the Supreme Court–it will depend upon which party they favor. Sorry, but this is what I believe.

          • Denniso

            I’m a liberal Democrat who belives we need real and fair helthcare reform and cost controls so that everyone working can afford it and not go broke or live in fear of a major illnes because of the absurd cost to treat it. I don’t like being on the side of the Repubs in this fight over the ins mandates,but you’re right that it appears the parties are holding firm on each side…but don’t discount the independence of the supreme court.

  • http://n/a Beverly Minor

    This book list plus its title (the ten worst books, is partly what is wrong with all of us today. I agree with the respondent who insinuated that the sampling of so-called intellectuals was not random, but carefully chosen to back up the conservative view. The liberal view is more along the lines of open dialogue and debate, not trashing anyone or any view contrary to the conservative view. And, hatefully, some respondents had to get their digs in concerning President Obama. How un-adult! Why don’t we all grow up and start behaving like thinking, creative adults that we were created to be?

    • newspooner

      It’s very simple;

      People like Juan Peron Obama believe that government is the source of rights, and that those people who are most functionally capable get to the leadership positions in government and determine what the rights are for the rest of us.

      People like Thomas Jefferson, Calvin Coolidge, John Tyler, etc. believe that rights naturally exist, and that the only legitimate purpose of government is to protect the natural rights of all people by having a codified system of justice so that each individual does not have the fulltime burden of constatntly protecting himself from evil people, making life and death judgements on the spur of the moment, and needing to always base decisions on what is allowed by the state rather than what is morally valid.

      • Denniso

        Regardles of where rights come from,w/o a smart and benevolent gov’t to enforce laws, any rights are tenuous at best. How long would it take for big money and corporate power to enslave workers even more than they are now if not for human rights and labor laws? Remember the civil rights revolution w/ gov’t forcing out segregation in the South? Did business do it? No, gov’t and the people did it.

  • momo

    If you can’t get to sleep just pick Das Kapital and you will be snoring in no time!

  • Andrew

    & to top the list, that most hateful piece of trash known by the worst segments of society as the KORAN.

  • Grey Wolf

    I have to admit that I have read many of these horrible books! Yes, I even read the 800+ pages of Mein Kampf! Since I was an economics major, both Marx & Keynes were required reading. I still remember reading the “Population Bomb” in high school back in 1968! And one female English teacher I had required us to read the “Feminine Mystique” about the same time. BTW, I graduated from a Catholic high school where a classic education is still taught & Latin lives!
    Other books that I read that would be honorable mention include: “1984″, “A Brave New World”, “A Clockwork Orange” & “Animal Farm.” They all to me, present a future that seems to becoming more real with each passing day. Sinclair Lewis wrote a lot of horrible nonsense during his brief, tragic life. However, his works still influence many people. And almost 50 years later, Rachel Carson’s “Silent Spring” is still looked upon as the catalyst for the enviromental movement. However, I’ve come to equate enviromentalism with nothing more than control of the earth’s natural resources by the elitists, and I’m sure many of you know who they are!
    Finnally, during the late 1960′s many radicals of the day published books advocating violence, anarchy, perversion, you name it, it was all there in print. However, much of it was pure trash & utter nonsense best epitomized by Abbie Hoffman’s psuedo classic “Steal This Book”, which by the way wasn’t even worth stealing!

  • http://www.lhprealty.com Louis

    Godzilla, I do not recall seeing anything in this article referencing censorship. Statements like that, taken out of context, can only be used as ammunition, by libs, to accuse conservatives of wanting censorship. Come to think of it, it happens all of the time. Any and all accusations of this nature are taken from comments such as this and spun to give merit to a point which has none.

    I agree that these books are horrifying, at best, but I also think it is very important for everyone to be informed regarding different views, principles, etc. Having an open mind to educate yourself regarding these differing views, in my opinion, puts a good conservative a few steps ahead of a lot of liberal and progressive idiots out there.

    Most people are completely oblivious to much of the liberal writings out there and are actually quite shocked when they find out what is being published. I have seen more and more conservatives educating themselves to this idiocy, if for no other reason than to try to understand their points of view.

    To prove my point, try to get a lib to read something by Sarah Palin or Glenn Beck. Their mind immediately goes shut and, to cover up their ignorance, they start hurling insults. They don’t want to expose themselves to the conservative point of view for fear of seeing the light.

    However, on the other hand, a typical conservative will read a liberal’s point of view to try to understand their point of view. By the way, some of it can actually prove comical.

    I know I am rambling but it’s early in the day. My point is, any kind of censorship would deny that possibility. No one has said anything about censorship and it is best not to bring it up. It will only be twisted to make it sound like right wants to censor everything when it it is actually the other side. I believe the fitting term would be “projection”.

  • Marcel

    funny that chip lies about communism “killing” 200 million but the fact that capitalism killed more is not even mentioned, so books like Hayek’s and Mises are off the hook.

    Capitalism: Known True Evil
    1.4 Billion Murdered

    Second Boer War 75,000
    Japanese Massacre of Singapore 100,000
    Burma-Siam Railroad Construction 116,000
    Japanese Germ Warfare in China 200,000
    Rebelling Shia Killed by Saddam 300,000
    US Bombing of Yugoslavia 300,000
    US Bombing Iraq Water Supply ’91 500,000
    US Civil War 700,000
    Iraq-Iran War 1,000,000
    US sanctions on Iraq 1,000,000
    US Backed Suharto 1,200,000
    Irish Potato Famine 1,500,000
    Japanese Democides 5,964,000
    Famine of 1932-33 7,000,000
    Bengal Famine of 1943 10,000,000
    Famine in British India 30,000,000
    US Intervention in the Congo 5,000,000
    Hurricane Katrina 1,836
    Indonesian Anti-Com. Purge 1,000,000
    Stateless Capitalist Somalia 1,000,000
    Industrial Revolution USA 100,000
    1898 US War vs Philippine 3,000,000
    Palestinians Killed by Israel 826,626
    Guatemala 300,000
    Nanking Massacre 300,000
    Iraq (Selling Gas to Saddam) 400,000
    Iraq (Desert Storm) 500,000
    Invasion of the Philippines 650,000
    Feudal Russia 1,066,000
    Afghanistan 1,200,000
    Iraq 1,300,000
    Khmer Rouge 2,035,000
    South African Apartheid 3,500,000
    Nazi Holocaust 12,000,000
    US Aggression on Latin America 6,000,000
    Japanese Imperialism 6,000,000
    Vietnam War – including Cambodia & Laos 10,000,000
    Korean War 10,000,000
    British Occupation of India 20,000,000
    Great Depression (America alone) 12,000,000
    World War One 16,500,000
    World War Two 60,000,000
    Native American Genocide 95,000,000
    Capitalist Policy in India 1947 – 1990 120,000,000
    African Slave Trade 150,000,000
    US Backed murder of Tamils 30,000
    Spanish-American War 100,000
    Spanish Civil War 400,000
    Union Carbide Bophal Disaster 15,000
    Massacre of Paris Commune 20,000
    First Indochina 1946-1954 1,500,000
    Belgian Congo Colonization 1,000,000
    French Madagascar 80,000
    Nigerian Civil War 1,000,000
    Rwandan Genocide 1,000,000
    US Made Famine Bangladesh 100,000
    Children Died fr Hunger ’09 5,256,000
    Children Killed by Hunger Since 9/11 235,000,000
    Children Killed by Hunger during the 1990s 100,000,000
    Ciggarette Related Deaths Worldwide (1960 – 2010) 300,000,000

    Total Killed by Capitalism: 1,559,657,267

    • URKiddinMee

      Did your Mother give birth to any children who lived to maturity? I suppose Pol Pot, Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Kim Jong Il, et al, were all capitalists? Gimme a break. I will personally purchase a ONE WAY ticket for you to one of the “non-capitalist” countries of Cuba, Venezuela or the Sudan if you promise to levae by year end and never return.

    • ValDM

      Many on your list are there fraudulently. Please ge your facts straight about Cambodia. Most of these confrontations weren’t about capitalism at all, but about forcing others to live the way you want them to live, ie; despotism/communism/socialism.

      • Bruce D.

        Agreed VaDM, he is just making most of that stuff up. Pol Pot was trained in communism when he was in Paris. His intention was to kill anyone with an education who might see the fallacy in his ideology. Cambodia is still feeling the effects of the annihilation of educated people. The Japanese had some brutal regimes up until World War II but they were also a a democratic dictatorship. “Japanese politics was based on the premise that all Japanese were equally subjects of the Emperor and that the “people’s will” and the “imperial will” were the same, i.e. what the Emperor wanted for the people was what the people wanted for the people.” I think Macel is fed by mindless anti-Americanism. I am sure he copied and pasted from a Marxist site without any knowledge or caring of its truth.

    • David

      What a dumb statement

      • Bob Wire

        Yea, That was a reach! But those numbers are a powerful thing to see regardless of their cause.

        John Harden shoot a man for snoring, I wonder if there has been anymore snoring related deaths.

        • victoria blood

          Many more bob Wire, They just looked like natural causes because their Wives removed the pillow before the coroner got there.

          • eddie47d

            Thanks for the laugh Victoria.

    • Rick

      This guy must be swallowing his drugs,and chasing them with the Obama/Reid/Pelosi KoolAid.

    • Ted

      Marcel:

      Your list is massivly misleading and you must surely know that. What on earth has the Rwandan massacre or Japnese Imperialism got to do with capitalism???

      The list of 10 is highly defective in that the Koran is not listed alongside MeinKamf — given that its venom against non-Muslims is no different to Hitler’s venom towards the Jews.
      As for including Charles Darwin’s Origin of Species among the 10 this is clearly ridiculous since Darwin’s book is one of the greatest books ever written.

      Pay no attentioo to the list — or your list for that matter Marcel.

    • SerfOfObama

      Egads, where to begin… The KHMER ROUGE were CAPITALISTS!?! Hurricane Katrina!?! Saddam Freaking Hussein?? The Iranian mullahs?? Imperial Japan of the 1930s?? Nazi Germany?? The Great (GLOBAL) Depression?? Franco’s Spain?? Is this a bizarre joke? Looks like your beloved Stalin & Mao got off scot-free with zero victims apiece. Should be welcome news to all Czechs, Poles, East Germans, Romanians, Hungarians, Ukrainians, etc., and victims of the “Cultural Revolution”, various “five-year plans”, the “Great Leap ‘Forward’”, etc., among others. Your childhood hometown must’ve had the strongest teachers union on the planet.

    • Costa

      Now if they could just get rid of another 3 billion the powers that be (leaving enough people to work their fields) will have completed the mission

    • TIME

      Marcel ~ Dude put down the Crack pipe, you have had enough.

      • Costa

        AHHHHH Good old Iran contra crack…..the good stuff from the 80′s not this cut down new mess. Good old, war on drugs Reagan funded crack….something you GOP groupies may have forgotten, but thats ok Reagan didn’t remember either.

        • Costa

          and no I’m not a freekin liberal….just a man with a fully working non brainwashed mind of my own…..at least thats what they told me to say.

    • MLK

      Hello, Many people think that communism and capitalism and ruthless dictators are doing this killing. But what you would know if you read The Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion is that the leaders/dictators of every developed nation on the globe are all lead by the people that The Protocols was written by and for. Read the book about the leaders of the most ruthless dictators, the men who pull the puppet strings of the capitalist/imperialist nation which you claim is responsible for all this killing. The responsibility goes higher in the hierarchy than we “goyim” can ever imagine! Then watch the Khazarian Conspiracy and the Khazarian Supremacy on youtube.com. Then you’ll have the truth.

    • Effin Reed Tard

      I think you got “Capitalism” mixed up with “Corporate Fascism” …

    • http://PersonalLibertyDigest Linda

      capitalistic people care about money they do not kill people dummy dictators do like obama get it jerk

  • Dr. Mabuse

    I’m sure that most people (no matter which side of the fence they find themselves on) have a list of “Worst Books.” However, I’d like to suggest two books that everyone might benefit from reading:

    1. Critical Path – R. Buckminster Fuller

    2. Tragedy and Hope – Caroll Quigley

  • http://Yahoo Raymond

    Chip’s article is a good one, but I take issue with one which didn’t make the top ten, coming in as an honorable mention: The Origin of Species, the book that has given atheists the opening they needed to spout their drivel.

  • 2WarAbnVet

    Is isn’t a political tome, but Rachael Carson’s “Silent Spring” has been directly responsible for the death of millions, and still kills millions every year.

    • SerfOfObama

      Actually in a way it was because it’s considered by many to be the founding “religious” text of the eco-terrorist movement.

  • Eric

    In reading the comments posted, I am suddenly aware that quite possibly America is lost. America is the longest-lived nation of free people in the history of the world, and that didn’t happen by “evolution” or the prospect of “chance”. America was built on the foundation of true human liberty which comes from the opposite end of the spectrum than ANY of the books listed in the top ten. We are not free because our government provides for us or controls us by martial law, we are free because it is our God given right and our Founding Fathers understood that!! For you “humanists”, I do pity you because there is no way you can get outside of yourself long enough to see and understand the real world.

    • http://www.lhprealty.com Louis

      Eric,

      America is not lost. It has, in some degree, lost it’s way by putting these people in power but it can be turned around to resemble something very close to what the founding fathers had in mind.

      America is free, for the time being, but we must start putting the pieces back together very soon or we will be lost.

      If you just give up and think that America is lost, well, then it is lost. Or, we can pick ourselves up by the boot straps and get to work putting it back together. Either way, in a small way, it is up to each and every one of us to do our part.

      • oldtimeyman

        Well said.

      • Eric

        I agree.

  • http://Yahoo Raymond

    Marcel’s ignorance of history is astounding. The Japanese were capitalists? Khmer Rouge? African slave trade? Utter bullshit! The figure is nowhere even remotely approaching that number. Slavery wrong, yes. 150, 000, 000? Ridiculous! His tirade is a great example of the post hoc ergo propter hoc fallacy.

    Take comfort in your leftist cocoon, you are sadly uninformed.

    • Vicki

      Most or all of Marcel’s examples are of government genocide and not Capitalism. One of the keys to Capitalism is willing trade between people. Willing trades do not result or induce murder so ALL of Marcel’s examples were caused by something other than Capitalism.

      http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/capitalism
      : an economic system characterized by private or corporate ownership of capital goods, by investments that are determined by private decision, and by prices, production, and the distribution of goods that are determined mainly by competition in a free market

      So Marcel is obviously trying to create a connection between Capitalism and genocide which cannot exist. Thus it is just a poor attempt to demonize capitalism.

      • Effin Reed Tard

        I think he is referring to “Corporate Fascism”. That’s when corporations are in bed with government, get government to suppress competition, and receive government dole ….

        • Vicki

          Agreed. Sometimes I have heard it called “Crony Capitalism.” Much like the examples of tyranny named ‘Peoples Republic of {insert name here }’

          Here is a good example of Crony Capitalism.
          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2sSg0xjzIec

          • Effin Reed Tard

            Thanks Vicki,

            I’m watching it right now on my crappy computer. It’s running Linux. So I call the computer “Crapix” …

  • URKiddinMee

    Upon reading the postsby “JRC” and “Don,” it becomes clear what Reagan said about liberals. “It’s not that they are liars, it’s just that they know so much that just isn’t TRUE!”

    • Bruce D.

      Ronald Reagan was certainly a great man with a great understanding of Americanism. Top officials in the Obama administration seem to feel the same way about Mao. Weird at best, treason at its worst.

  • Dan Short

    I found it interesting that the first book of ideological governance, the template for all of this other dementia was not mentioned; the quran!

  • William Lord

    Your list reminds me of the index of prohibited books previously maintained by the Catholic Church. If you want a list of some of the best authors or more thoughtful works of their time merely consult those books that have been banned or vilified by narrow minded and ignorant bigots.

  • Robert Jungers

    You left out “Looking Backward” by Edward Bellamy

  • Bitter Libertarian

    I respectfully disagree that any book is the fault of anyones actions…sorry! To me its almost a LIBERAL stance blaming anyones actions on what they read…I’ve “tried” to read a few of those and I’ve not been corrupted…sooooo….

    Like it or not banning those books is almost the same thing as blaming a gun for a murder. :) NOT Taking responsibility for ones actions is the real crime.

    • Bruce D.

      In my opinion it is not the reading of those books that is the problem but the lack of reading of our founding principles. The educational system is leaning towards socialism. If parents do not teach their kids they do not know. When they get to college in some instances Marxism becomes the only ideology they understand and embrace it as a form of intellectualism.

      • Bitter Libertarian

        Good Points. I cant understand how any logical thinking person blames a book! its no better then blaming a Gun, knife, baseball bat, etc…

  • Rick

    A quick perusal of the list looks like 7 of these were used as guidelines for the “FUNDAMENTAL CHANGE” that has been forced upon the American people under the Obama administration.

    • http://www.lhprealty.com Louis

      I think that was the idea. What really pisses them off is that we actually read and can see what guidelines they are using. They would like to get every one of on on the government bottle and keep us there. The real problem is that there are already too many people there already and they like it. They will fight to keep it.

  • 45caliber

    One of the biggest laughs I get about Oblama’s book is that he didn’t write it.

    • http://www.lhprealty.com Louis

      Personally, I don’t think he could permission from Michelle to take the kind of time it would take to write a book. I mean, if he can’t do his job without leaving it to Clinton because he’s afraid he’s left Michelle waiting long enough…

      Enough said on that one. It cracks me up. The term “whipped” comes to mind.

      • http://www.lhprealty.com Louis

        That should be, “get permission”.

        • Bob Wire

          it don’t take much to get the $hit started does it? Sometimes a lie just works better for some people that enjoy making political hay.

          I could have a field day with minority leader, Republican John Boehner!

          Ole Cry Baby Johnny! had to work nights! at every dirty job he could find! ( leaving to wonder, if he was looking for them? ) At 63, one year older the myself, I remember the way it was and how it was back then as a share cropper’s grandson. Come Christmas the only thing we had to play with was a hard on. At 17 married with child and a house mortgage, new washer & dryer. We grew up quick back then, we had too! We were pushed out of the nest early.

          The Records show John enlisted in the Navy at the height of the Viet Nam war and was medically discharged after over 8 weeks for a bad back, Hmm? maybe John still lives in pain or something? He sure didn’t last very long in the Navy did he? He didn’t even finish his training.

          I’m looking forward to hearing more from John Boehner, the GOP choice for leadership position.

          • Denniso

            Millions of people grow up in tough circumstances and NEVER get to a position of power and wealth. They work their asses off their whole life, raise families and do the right thing and barely make it into retirement w/ any health or quality of life. Poor Boehner,thinks he’s the only one who ever worked hard? Now he’s hit the lottery…

          • Bob Wire

            Yea, I see John Boehner and the GOP’s track record as a weak link and worthy attack for the pure fun of it. ~ But I don’t often go there, not until I’ve had a belly full of senseless Obama attacks.

            Why they do this be-galls me?

            Mich Mc Connell and John Boehner are old school GOP and the “New Improved Version” of the GOP has yet to even have a track record. So when they start talking about being “Conservatives” , I’m not sure as to what they are talking about!

            With such a huge “chink” in their armor, I find it foolishly bold to attack anyone. That I don’t, doesn’t mean I will continue.

  • Miner49er

    “rules for Radicals” by Saul Alinsky should be among the top three.

  • NADS

    Sorry I meant CHIP, not “Bob”.

  • http://n/a B. MInor

    O.K. now. You’ve all had your say, some being good points and others being totally childish. In a true debate, such as a debating team in high school, the participants debated by taking turns with both pros and cons. What an interesting agenda. It forced the participants to consider the other side as well as the his/her side. If you’re a conservative, think like a liberal and if a liberal, think like a conservative. Actually, probably none of us are truly 100% one way or another anyway. That’s a good thing. I believe it’s possible to have dialogue and listen to others’ viewpoints without erupting into stupidity, which happens when we let the arguing become too personal ergo emotional. Then it becomes immature and hateful. We need to find and exploit our unity, not that which would pull us apart. A good exercise would be to list the good qualities promoted by each viewpoint and then those which are not so good, all of this for our own edification. Remember, the enemy “will divide and conquer” and “a house divided against itself will fall.”

    • http://www.lhprealty.com Louis

      I agree that we should all look for the good in the other side. However, in Obama’s case. I can only think of one good thing. He is a smooth talker, not quite Clinton’s caliber, but a smooth talker. That can also be a bad thing.

      Everything else about him is negative and will do nothing but hurt this country. He’s immature, inexperienced, has a single-minded focus on this agenda of his, and is in way over his head. The man has never held a real job in his life.

      I have all the respect in the world for the office of the presidency. However, I have no respect whatsoever for the idiot who currently occupies that office. Respect is something that is earned and he hasn’t done a single thing to earn mine. That may sound childish to some but it is a cold, hard fact.

      All we can do is work towards doing whatever we can to undo any damage he does and set things right again.

    • nehope

      HI there, this is the best article within this Guest editorial.
      Too many attack the messenger instead of concentrating on the subject.
      Thanks for a splendid argument. W.

    • Robert Smith

      I still like Ayn Rand and think of Rush Limbaugh as a jackass.

      Rob

      • Claire

        I will never purchase a talk show host’s book. They have made plenty of money already from their diatribe.

      • Bob Wire

        Yea , I loved Ayn Rand’s novels at well. What a beautiful nut!

        They do make me very sad, like a sad song. I love sad songs.

        Other novel that hurt in this same way were

        Rhapsody of a Hermit and every book Carlos Castaneda ever wrote.

  • nehope

    Sorry, my reply was meant toward B.minor.

    • http://www.lhprealty.com Louis

      nehope, I kind of figured that. I got a little off of the subject so I figured it was a reply to me.

      Anyway, back to the subject. Chip wrote a good article and there are a lot of good thoughts here. We all need to stay open-minded and read, learn, read, and learn more. We are constantly meant to learn. When you stop learning—-you’re dead, literally.

      Nothing says you have to believe, or act out on everything you read, but you need to read to understand other points of view. When you stop doing that, we stop working together.

      We also must get active and do our own parts or nothing gets done to counter the damage.

      • nehope

        I appreciate your clear thinking. Unfortunately most people on this subject (and others) are debating instead of discussing. There is a big difference. We need more people like you and Robert Smith.
        W.

  • Ron K.

    Ultimately—IN THE END—I will be in HEAVEN or in HELL….
    I have made my choice. Make yours.

    • Bitter Libertarian

      I agree provided you are looking at a personal end. The religious people out there waiting for the “Big End” are fools to sit on their duff and not take action. That day may be soon, but its not here yet. Clearly we are NOT “as in the days of Noah.” Once the Genetic mutations/hybreds start causing problems THATS when the tide is about to turn.

  • http://www.lhprealty.com Louis

    I figured it was NOT a reply to me.

  • http://Yahoo Rob

    Note to Chip Wood:
    I’m being sarcastic but, were you bored when you felt the need to write this article? When you kicked over this “Hornets” nest, the bee came out fighting. This article and an articles about “ILLEGAL” immigration, will keep you in business……

  • http://www.sensiblechange.org Ken

    The amount of ignorance spewed in these comments by the ignorant and anti-religious is beyond belief. “The Population Bomb” and “Silent Spring” are two of the most disasterous books ever written. “Silent Spring” because it led to the unjustified banning of DDT which has never been shown to have caused deaths, except, perhaps, when used in excess. The claim, made by Carson, is that it killed off bird populations. This claim was later shown to be false. The loss of bird populations was the result of loss of habitat. However, its banning is what caused the death of more than 50 million human beings who fell prey to malaria. The WHO is now bringing it back. It was the banning of DTD that caused the death of untold millions not the DDT that caused those deaths. For a little background, try reading Dr. Bruce Ames of UC Berkeley on DDT.
    “The Population Bomb” which I read in collge has proven to be wild hyperbole. Birth rates are declining across the globe and are already below replacement levels in more than 70 countries. Check out the DVD “Demographic Winter.” It is underpopulation that is leading to disaster, not overpopulation, according to leading demographers. The problem is compounded by the fact that the Muslims did not read “The Population Bomb.” As a consequence, they will constitute the majority in Western Europe by 2100, according to Islamic scholar Bernard Lewis.
    The problem with the “On the Origin of Species is that it is, in retrospect, a simplistic and largely unsupported theory for which fossil evidence is largely non-existent. And even that which exists can show no links between species. Darwin’s sole diagram in the book is laughable. It uses the illusion of science to support a methodologically unsound hypothesis which lacks the relevant data. People who have not read it have blindly followed its central thesis for over 150 years. Dawkins is a big a fool as Darwin and Hitchens is following close behind. Believers in a global warming crisis are of a similar ilk. They have a vague sense of the theory, but most know next to nothing of the purported evidence, which is weak or non-existent, and, in historical context, meaningless.

    • Karolyn

      You think it’s OK to spray our food and land with chemicals? I saw a show several years ago. The journalist was tested for chemicals in his blood. DDT was one of the chemicals found, and he had never even lived in the country. This was at least 30 years (I really don’t remember when it was banned.) after DDT was banned. You don’t think that the reason we have so much autism, childhood asthma and other diseases is because of all the chemicals we ingest on a daily basis?

  • Earl, QUEENS, NY

    You probably ommitted one. I think it was “Earth in the Balance”, by Al Gore, full of lies about the global warming scam. Speaking of global warming, I heard Mark Levin talk the other night about the severe winter weather we’re experiencing when it’s not even officially winter yet. E.g., freezing temperatures as far south as Florida. I bet the environmentalist wacko Marxists are unhappy about this, as it discredits their global warming myth. The Great One also had a good idea – maybe a new interest group, one that is pro-global warming and pro-carbon dioxide!! I agree!! Let’s do what we can to produce more carbon dioxide and global warming, in hopes that we can eliminate this extreme cold climate. In this case, my only hope is that some environmentalist wacko will have a slip of the tongue by saying that we cannot control the climate!! LOL!! That would be the truth from the environmentalist wacko Marxists!!

    • SerfOfObama

      Amen brother. Just for laughs I had PBS on for a few minutes the other night. They had a preview for a show in which they found dinosaur fossils at the north pole. In a frantic attempt to ignore the obvious elephant in the room, they tried (really really hard) to wonder aloud how dinosaurs could possibly survive in such extreme cold. Think about it…

      • SerfOfObama

        Lol, a typo on my part– not “north pole” , but “Arctic”…

  • My mothers daughter

    Christianity means being born again(check John chapter 3,Romans chapter 10).Paganism is a combination of pagan and RELIGION,not christianity,Rligious people were the ones that crucified Jesus,not christians,a BIG difference, to understsnd you have to have the Light to see the Thruth,Jesus is the Way the Thruth, and the Light,whoever believes and confess Him will not live in darkness and be deceived.My purpose is to help others come out of the darkness into the Light

    • Denniso

      Jesus was a Jew as were his followers and their was no such thing as Christians for many yrs.

      • denniso

        Damn!! ‘there’…

      • nehope

        RIGHT ON.

  • Joe

    A lot of haters on here. Funny many of you say athiests are not trying to convert anyone. Is that why they rent billboards saying God is a lie and does not exist? Is that why they get laws passed that kick God out of schools? They are more aggressive in their “conversion” than any Christian ever has been. So quit with the lie about their innocence. They are bitter and aggressive.
    And there have always been idiots who kill in the name of religion. However, that does not excuse the actions of those like Hitler, Mao, Stalin, Marx, Engel, etc.
    If you bother to STUDY (not just read) the Bible, you will see there is nothing in there that says to kill others because of their faith. Those that were killed in the true record were antagonistic and would have killed covenant makers. I have never heard of someone who says they were inspired to kill based on the Bible’s teachings. It teaches to turn the other cheek and to love. Somehow, that does not sound like the criteria for a murderous psychopath. You do, however, hear of odious people who were inspired by books such as the ones written of to kill and remove liberty.

    • Denniso

      I’ve never seen an atheist go door to door trying to push his belief on total strangers in their house. And, God belongs in a person’s own heart or church, not in schools that are supported by all taxpayer’s money. Why can’t the rightwing understand that? It’s really pretty simple.

      • Effin Reed Tard

        You need to visit North Korea. The atheist take the Christians out of their houses, then murder them with a road roller.

        Glad I’m in America …

        • denniso

          North Korea is hardly a country to use for any sort of comparison to anything we do.

          • Effin Reed Tard

            Taxes ! If the separation of CHurch and State really existed, Christians wouldn’t have to pay taxes !

            But they do now. Doesn’t that give them a voice in the curriculum ?

          • Denniso

            You’re a little off…you think that separation of church and state would mean that no religious people would have to pay taxes? So, Muslims, Hindus or Buddhists wouldn’t pay tax either? Tep, that would really work,w/ everyone claiming a religion to be let out of taxation.

            Religious people who pay taxes and are in a school district certainly have the right to be in on decision making for schools,but they can’t inject ANY religion into the curriculum or the school. Read the constitution….

        • Shame Less

          sounds like North Korean does at least one thing right

  • Claire

    I am not a hater but my money will never purchase a politician’s book.

    • Kate8

      Claire – I can understand those feelings about politicians, but they can express more of what they stand for in a book than we would hear in the media.

      Of course, rarely do they actually write a book themselves, and it could also be a pack of lies. LOL. Just look at Odumbo’s works of fiction, written by Bill Ayers.

      • Claire

        Kate8–I never bought Obama’s books.

        • Kate8

          Claire, Me either.

          BTW, I didn’t imagine for one moment that you did! I was just making a comment.

  • Gary

    I find it ironic that Darwin’s “Origin of the Species” was not seen as the number one worst book ever.
    Without it it would be highly unlikely that there could have been the other books.
    Darwin removed specialism from the human species and removed God from origins and indeed from science.

    In rendering all life a mere accident of the laws of physics and necessity, Darwin opened the door to all the worst books that followed. All of which claim Darwinian theory as the scientific basis of their ideas.

    Man, because of Darwin’s theory, no longer has any claim to higher value than any other primate, morals are an evolutionary adaptation for survival with no ultimate basis in reality, some races by be more evolved than others and rape is also a mere evolutionary adaptation (see Thornhill & Palmer).

    The whole of the Nazi horror was under-spelled by Darwinian survival thinking as Richard Weikart ably demonstrates in his two books “Hitler’s Ethic” and “From Darwin to Hitler: Evolutionary Ethics, Eugenics, and Racism in Germany”.
    Hitler adopted Darwins survival of the fittest theory as pure fact and then decided to put artificial selection into social practice.

    Darwin himself predicted, “At some future period, not very distant as measured by centuries, the civilised races of man will almost certainly exterminate, and replace, the savage races throughout the world. At the same time the anthropomorphous apes, as Professor Schaaffhausen has remarked (18.’Anthropological Review,’ April 1867, p. 236.), will no doubt be exterminated. The break between man and his nearest allies will then be wider, for it will intervene between man in a more civilised state, as we may hope, even than the Caucasian, and some ape as low as a baboon, instead of as now between the negro or Australian and the gorilla.” Darwin – The Descent of Man

    The Nazis merely decided it was their destiny, their duty, to purify the human race by doing the said exterminating of the “inferior” races.

    Niles Eldredge wrote, “Darwin did more to secularize the Western world than any other single thinker in history.”
    And William Provine stated even more clearly, “Evolution is the greatest engine of atheism ever invented.” and “Naturalistic evolution has clear consequences that Charles Darwin understood perfectly. 1) No gods worth having exist; 2) no life after death exists; 3) no ultimate foundation for ethics exists; 4) no ultimate meaning in life exists; and 5) human free will is nonexistent.”

    Darwinist professor of bio-ethics Peter Singer, simply taking Darwinian logic to its logical conclusions, states that small children are not really human and thus may be killed without consequence, that inter-species sex (bestiality) is not abnormal or wrong since we all share the same common ancestor(s).

    Darwinism, and its foundations in atheistic materialism, are at the root of all the ills coming from these “worst books” and anyone that denies this doesn’t know what they’re talking about.

    • Denniso

      Darwin was one of the brightest and most courageous of men ever to live. His and Wallace’s idea about natural selection was and id one of the biggest and most fundamental ever. He did nothing to ‘God’ or to people who want to have a god,he only pursued science and w/ reluctance and some deserved fear put forward a scientific theory that will probably live forever.
      Religious people shouldn’t fear progress in scientific understanding of the world and universe…it’s a core part of being human,striving for knowledge. Religion is supposed to be concerned w/ one’s personal life…leave the science to scientists.

      • Viktor Leben

        Denniso,

        Ok – you evolutionist have me thinking like Khan Noonien Singh , check this hyperlink if you don’t know who he is ….

        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khan_Noonien_Singh

        I’m religous – I don’t see a level playing field with evolutionist. In order to establish my dominance (due to my possible genetic superiority) I will have to compete, to guarantee my survival ….

        If I am the most fit, I will survive. I’m talking about “Total Competition” in every respect… their are no rules except the rule of guaranteeing my survival..

        Is that OK with you Evolutionist ? I’m looking for a sanction for my existence in a sense.

        • Denniso

          Evolution works over millions of yrs,not a human life span. Evolution is more correctly called natural selection and adaptation. It has little or nothing to do w/ modern society. Weren’t we talking in a reasonable manner a few days back?

          • Bob Wire

            The history of man has been lost! at least once that we know of.

            We have found stone construction in Peru made of irregular granite blocks weighing anywhere from 30 tons to 150 tons place together without mortar with seams so tight you can’t wedge paper between. This construction predates Christ.

            This type of construction can’t be recreated today! Not with all our tools and knowledge. These stones were shaped by heat or acid and we are still clueless how they were lifted into place.

            There is no record of who or what made these structures, but their knowledge greatly exceeds ours today.

            We are in the (at the very least) second history of man and maybe the 3rd or 4th.

      • Al Sieber

        Denniso, Darwin was also into inbreeding and incense to make a pure race. check it out.

  • ken

    Karl Marx was a genius it is not his fault that war/power mongers used his ideas to wreak havoc on mankind just look a what the atheists did to Darwin. Capitalism will die, hopefully before it kills every living thing on the planet.

  • Jeremy Leochner

    I immediatly agree with Mein Kampf. A book of such hate and racism should not ever be read by anyone with any sense of honor or sanity. However the other books I take fault with. Its one thing to disagree witht the political ideologies pronuonced in such books, its quite another to lump then together with a book that advocated the systematic murder of millions. I find it especially bizarre that The Communist Manifesto is proclaimed to be even worse then Mein Kampf. As a Social Democrat I disagree wholeheartdly with what I see as Communist Ideology. But I would never catagorize a philosophy involving the Goverment Controlling the economy as being worse or on par with a phiolosphy of extermination and pychosis. Another fact I have disagreement with is The Feminine Mystique. To the best of my Understanding I have heard that the book involves rather extremist or perhaps radical views towards male domination and womens acceptance of it. As I have not read the book I do not know however what I do know is The Feminine Mystique is involved with the womens movment for equality in the works place and in social and political rights. As a male I must admit I am biased in this argument though I have a somewhat hard time agreeing with a man on the subject of what I have always known to be a book on womens issues. Finally I feel obliged to point out I personally take offense at the listing of Course of Positive Philosophy as one of the worst books. The grounds for placing it there as far as I can tell seems to be that this book helped start sociology. I have personally taken a sociology class. The simple basic premise of the science is the study of relations between various groups of people. The class primarly focuses on the roots of conflicts between such groups and what can be done to overcome them. The primary thing I took from the class was a refrence in the text book which effectivly stated all people are capable of and commit some form or racism or prejudice based on our lack of understanding of, misinterpreatations of, or simply fear of those we see as “others” or “outsiders”. The only way to overcome such feelings is to try to learn about each other and understand how in reality we all have such fears and arent that different after all. I apologize for being long winded but I simply dont understand how a book that inspired such a study of the world could be referred to as one of the worst books ever written.

  • thewhitewolfe

    I love the MADE up history of the educated idiots, the God bashers, The Bible haters. These are the damned, these ARE the people we are at war with (not a shooting war, YET). Men and Women of faith, refrain from debate with these animals. The good book tells us to not associate ourselves with fools. The glory of God is upon US, we will prevail and their rethoric will be but a footnote in the correctly rewritten history books. All polls, studies and research confirms the Christian as happy, charitable, good nieghbors, at peace and committed to each others. The secular pogressive liberal is angry, unhappy, confused, drowning in abuse of drugs and alcohol, sexual promiscuity and all other forms of evil. Onward Christian warriors !!!

    • Jeremy Leochner

      But TheWhiteWolf: I dont understand your premise. Are you saying that if someone dosent share your faith they are animals. I am an agnostic and not a believer in any form of religion. But I have always strived to be kind and help others who need it more then me. Does it make me an animal just because I dont believe as you do. Also for the sack of argument could you please give an example of the MADE up history you spoke of. Im no expert but I do have a passion for history. I would love to debate such an issue.

    • Oh Dear

      @thewhitewolfe,
      Firstly you are clearly not a christian as to be so would be to behave like Jesus. Jesus would not have advocated war.
      Secondly, refrain from debate ! looks like you are the fool, debate is a healthy activity, at least to those without a closed mind and self-blinded to the truth.
      Thirdly, god does not exist, only in your mind.
      Fourthly, many of your leaders have claimed to be christian and they were all charitable, good neighbours and at peace weren’t they, like hell they were.
      Have all the fundamentalists who flew the planes into the twin towers gone to paradise now ?
      I expect that you think they have not.
      I expect that you think that they were all labouring under a misaprehension.
      Why should you be any different?
      When you die you too will cease to exist.
      Only your body made from the stuff the stars have created and the memory of you in other peoples minds will remain.
      We won’t see you in heaven, or anywhere else for that matter.
      Sounds to me like you’re the one who is sadly confused.

    • Effin Reed Tard

      Yeah !

      And our candidate for PreZ -Sarah Palin – is HOTTER than any candidate they can get !

    • Karolyn

      Wow! Where did you get your info from. I am a “secular” person, and many of my friends are also. We believe in God, but not in the traditional way; and we find fault with the Bible. No one I am acquainted with is on drugs, is immoral or is sexually promiscuous. You use much to braod a stroke to paint your picture. There are professed Christians who abuse drugs and alcohol and are sexually promiscuous. You simply cannot generalize people under either classification. There are bad people who are Christians, and there are bad people who aren’t. Simple, huh? You must live in a small Christian box to believe what you do.

  • Tom

    I simply find it humorous that the majority of these comments are so naive.

    REALITY SUCKS however it is here to stay for a while.

    Really want to have a clue on what’s going on in the USA and around the world. Read The Creature From Jekyl Island by G. Howard Griffin. Then follow up with your own further investigation.

    The majority of both major parties have been bought and paid for by the international bankers for decades.

    Follow the money, always, gee who owns the fed and the central banks? DUH!!!

  • Ian Bell

    Marx,Kinnsey,etc absolutily evil.At the time of the crusades the Christian side didnt retaliate against the Muslim aggressors for many years. The restraint they showed for that time in history is quite impessive.Look at Islam today, one bad word about them and rage and violence follows almost immediatly.

  • Ian Bell

    Marx was a genius at deception.A master of manipulation who gave justification to hate and to exterminate anyone who didnt fit in with his plan.The communists have more than 200 millions deaths on their hands .They have caused more damage to the millions they have brainwashed with paranoia, fear and suspician which is so evedent in many countries today.

  • G. Cole

    Dawn & SCMurf you need to get your facts straight. The Inquisition killed only one person unlike the Communists, National Socialists (Nazi’s) and Muslims which have killed millions. Amazing how liberals pretend to be so tolerant of others but they are the one’s who loot and kill the poor, and try to halt free speech.

    • Bob Wire

      That’s not so ! I do it too!

    • http://marcum@wildblue.net coal miner

      G.Cole,

      Death tolls are given by historians such as Will Durant, who, in The Reformation (1957), cites Juan Antonio Llorente, General Secretary of the Inquisition from 1789 to 1801, as estimating that 31,912 people were executed from 1480-1808. He also cites Hernando de Pulgar, a secretary to Queen Isabella, as estimating 2,000 people were burned before 1490. Philip Schaff in his History of the Christian Church gave a number of 8,800 people burned in the 18 years of Torquemada. Matthew White, in reviewing these and other figures, gives a median number of deaths at 32,000, with around 9,000 under Torquemada [1]. R. J. Rummel describes similar figures as realistic, though he cites some historians who give figures of up to 135,000 people killed under Torquemada. This number includes 125,000 asserted to have died in prison due to poor conditions, leaving 10,000 sentenced to death. (Death rates in medieval and early modern prisons were generally very high, thanks in part to inadequate sanitary conditions and a poor diet.) There are no death toll figures available for the massacres of 1391, 1468 or 1473. These numbers will likely never be known.

      there are controversial disputes as to these numbers, however.

      http://www.answers.com/topic/spanish-inq…

      • Effin Reed Tard

        If you were Baptist – you got burnt at the stake ! If you were Protestant, you got burnt at the stake ! If you were Jewish you got fried also …

        So I guess it was a bad time to be Jewish, Protestant or Baptist !

        • Denniso

          G.Cole says the inquisition killed only one person?? What the hell kind of history is that?

  • Edward J. Bradley, Sr.

    To this list you can add: “Crimes Without Victims: Deviant Behavior and Public Policy:(Abortion, Homosexuality & Drug Addiction)” (1965) written by Edwin M. Schur and published by Prentice-Hall, Inc., Englewood Cliffs, N.Y..

    http://www.questia.com/PM.qst?a=o&d=28499088

    http://www.amazon.com/Crimes-Without-Victims-Homosexuality-Addiction/dp/0131929305

    • Karolyn

      Really?

  • James

    I agree with all except for the Kinsey report – It’s not that I agree with everything in the report, it’s just that it was one of the first serious studies into human sexuality, something that we still understand very little about.

  • Wesley Dare

    You forgot “Silent Spring” by Rachal Carson which Kills 275 children every day in Kenya and 1000s a day in Africa.

    • eddie47d

      Rachael Carson has been proven right many times over. DDT stays in the soil for decades and the more you spray the more affected the area is. You may not see the trouble brewing but it is there. It is extremely toxic to fish and bird eggs (both of which we eat).DDT that was sprayed 40 years is still around and even in the human bodies of those who have had contact with this chemical. Although it is not immediately fatal to humans there are many useful alternatives to this product. DDT is still used in 3rd world countries but has been overused and it doesn’t help humans anymore in some regions. Mosquito’s are increasingly resistant to DDT so it doesn’t kill them. Thus you have an increase in malaria deaths.

      • Denniso

        Wesley probably wouldn’t still be alive w/o Rachel Carson blowing the whistle on the chemical companies and big ag…

  • William

    “Nazis loved Nietzsche.”

    So did your beloved Ayn Rand.

  • http://marcum@wildblue.net coal miner

    Attention:

    WASHINGTON: A team of scientists in the United States, including three researchers of Indian origin, has created life in the laboratory.

    In a profound – and some would say provocative – work, the 24-member team at the privately-held J Craig Venter Institute has created bacterial cells that are completely controlled by genes manufactured in the lab. The cells can multiply.

    The successful construction of the first self-replicating bacterial cells opens the way for making and manipulating life on a previously unattainable scale, calling into question some of the very basis of creation.

    Previously, scientists have altered and manipulated DNA piecemeal to produce a variety of genetically engineered plants and animals. But the ability to artificially design an entire genome – the `book of life’ that controls an organism’s functions – puts a different spin on the meaning of terms such as creation, evolution and life.

    The J Craig Venter Institute (JCVI), which is a not-for-profit genomic research organization based in Rockville outside Washington DC and in San Diego, California, did not say when exactly its team synthesized the 1.08 million base pair chromosomes of a modified Mycoplasma mycoides, a parasite bacteria that lives in cattle and goats.

    But it said the synthetic cell, called Mycoplasma mycoides JCVI-syn1.0, “is the proof of principle that genomes can be designed in the computer, chemically made in the laboratory and transplanted into a recipient cell to produce a new self-replicating cell controlled only by the synthetic genome”.

    The most remarkable thing about the synthetic cell, a JCVI scientist explained, is that its “genome was brought to life through chemical synthesis, without using any pieces of natural DNA.”

    The implications of the breakthrough was not lost on the founder of the institute J Craig Venter, the maverick American biologist and entrepreneur who is most famous for his role in sequencing one of the first human genomes.

    “We have been consumed by this research, but we have also been equally focused on addressing the societal implications of what we believe will be one of the most powerful technologies and industrial drivers for societal good. We look forward to continued review and dialogue about the important applications of this work to ensure that it is used for the benefit of all,” he said in a statement.

    The 24-member team includes three scientists of Indian origin – Sanjay Vashee, Radha Krishnakumar and Prashanth P Parmar.

    The first synthetic cell did not come cheap or easy. The process of constructing and booting up the cell took nearly 15 years and cost upwards of $30 million, the institute said.

    Ethicists called the breakthrough a “turning point in the relationship between man and nature” when humankind had generated life from scratch in a lab with the ability to pre-determine its properties.

    But JCVI scientists were careful to point out the positives in the breakthrough, maintaining it would “undoubtedly” lead to the development of many important applications and products including biofuels, vaccines, pharmaceuticals, clean water and food products.

    Dr Venter said he and the team at JCVI continue to work with bioethicists, outside policy groups, legislative members and staff, and the public to encourage discussion and understanding about the societal implications of their work and the field of synthetic genomics generally.

  • Stoyman

    What about God personaly killing people? Children in Egypt or Biblical flud? Every religion is exclusive and hostile / in depth/ to atheists or other religion.

    Regarding Communist Manifesto you must understand that Marx expected for
    Communism to win in most developed countries and that it will be world process and not partial like it happened. Anyway, things that happen in the world / ecologic problems, economic recesion, terrorism,
    overpopulation/ are leading to some noncapitalistic state and society.

  • http://marcum@wildblue.net coal miner
    • Denniso

      Hey Coal Miner…how you doing? Merry Xmas to you and your family.

      • http://marcum@wildblue.net coal miner

        Denniso,

        Merry Xmas to your family and you too,also.

  • Dave M

    There are many victims of Kinnseys pedophile experiments who want to see justice done but never will. He was one real sick wacko!

  • Adrian Malinowski

    This post is so fascist , that witch hunt that you do is so dreadful, i thought that the Mcarthism was over but i was wrong, you conswervative scum!!!! let the people think for their own. dont tell them what to think, read the books and take conclussions, Das capital is a great analisis of capitalism. Milton Fri3edman was an evil person, not Marx, he promoted coup dé etats in latin america, Henry Kissinger is a mean person,Ronald reagan was a bad person he invaded Nicaragua, George Bush is a mean person, he invaded Iraq for oil and Afghanisthan for make a gasoduct, evil is that person who thinks only in profits, 200 million dead by the brutal soviet dictatorship, how many died because of the american imperialism?

    • libertytrain

      Adrian – IF you had actually read the article you would see what this article was about – not what you scanned from it or was told it was about.

  • MLK

    The one book not mentioned on your list is the book that was written by and for the MEN WHO RULE THE DICTATORS. Everyone should read THE PROTOCOLS OF THE LEARNED ELDERS OF ZION. It claims it is of questionable origin, but if you read it you will see just as Henry Ford saw over 100 years ago that the things written in that book are and have been happening. I believe the book originates from the Khazarian people who claim they practice the Jewish faith. Go to youtube.com and watch the Khazarian Conspiracy and the Khazarian Supremacy, and read The Protocols! You can get a free copy of The Protocols also on youtube.com. Go to the blue book and click on the British flag.

  • Ron K.

    Adrian no words can truly describe how ignorant you are.

  • Viktor Leben

    This topic discussion has totally open my eyes ! “Survival of the Fittest” is American society’s dominant thinking.

    I’ve decided to do everything to insure my survival. I believe I am fitter than any stupid evolutionist ….

    In a sense you evolutionist have converted me. You won’t fight “fair” because “fair” is a christian idea …

    Then neither will I ! I’m a creationist when it comes to origins, but now I am also, in practice, now a fierce competitor for my survival.

    Thanks everyone for opening my eyes.

    • Denniso

      It’s the rightwing that has twisted Darwin’s theory around to include survival of the fittest for modern society,and the rightwing Christians who push the hardest for an unfair society as well. Get your facts straight. It’s the rightwing that is always calling Democrats ‘bleeding hearts’ in a derisive way,for their desire to help less forunate people and for trying to make the country more fair for all.

      • Bob Wire

        Well? Learn your animal!

        Right Wingnuts, harbor a fear fetish, that’s the nature of the beast.

        It’s their motivating force, their pretext, their justifiable reason for thought and action. It’s preemptive and anything that has ever happened, could and most likely will happen again.

        They tend to carry notions of immorality and willing to go to great lengths to secure another 10 minutes of life. They see eminent threats everywhere, much like some Christians see the devil in everything.

        While they are not wrong, they are not completely right either.

        They have a hard time enjoying the journey with eyes set on some distant destination. Very “goal” driven, but the pursuit of these goals interferes with any peripheral vision or course change. They are not what you call “happy people” by nature and you being “happy” is annoying!

        ( speaking in the most general of terms of course)

        They might well get to where they planed to go, forgetting why they made the trip to begin with and not happy that they are there.

        It takes more then one mind, for man to exist and flourish, we need both, progressives and conservatives.

      • Dale on the left coast

        Denniso . . . right wingers like Margaget Sanger? Pushing Darwin based eugenics as the basis for the abortion movement.
        The National Socialist Workers Party of Germany also used eugenics as the basis for their “Social engineering” which lead to the deaths of millions.

        I suspect you have never read a history book.

        Eugenics was born as a scientific curiosity in the Victorian age. In 1863, Sir Francis Galton, a cousin of Charles Darwin, theorized that if talented people only married other talented people, the result would be measurably better offspring. At the turn of the last century, Galton’s ideas were imported into the United States just as Gregor Mendel’s principles of heredity were rediscovered. American eugenic advocates believed with religious fervor that the same Mendelian concepts determining the color and size of peas, corn and cattle also governed the social and intellectual character of man.

        Once again . . . . leftist loons and Progressives wanting to engineer and control the population . . .

        • Denniso

          Darwin based eugenics?? That’s ridiculous. Darwins discovery was an advancement in science,one of the biggest and most revolutionary ever. Science is often used for bad purposes,though not usually by the scientists. Ever heard of the atomic bomb? I know there are people who want to stop science because there is always the chance that it can be used for ill deeds,but that’s not going to happen. We have to be smart and vigilant about what society is doing whether it’s using old or new science.

        • Bob Wire

          “Once again . . . . leftist loons and Progressives wanting to engineer and control the population . . .”

          It appears to me that the fight for dominion via government is some both aspire too.

          • Karolyn

            YES!

      • Don

        Charles Darwin was very clear that he thought Social Darwinism was rubbish. He viewed it as a non-science and an excuse for racism.

    • Effin Reed Tard

      Viktor,

      Pope Paul once said “If one thinking dominates the gigantic events of our civilization we cannot avoid despair” ….

      The thinking now is Darwinism … welcome to despair ….

      The rules are set – You’re going to have to fight to survive….

      Start now !

  • http://www.u-BayFleaMarket.com Vertner Vegon

    You forgot THE VERY WORST BOOK OF ALL. THE KORAN

    • Denniso

      Many people say the same for the bible,since you can find many examples of evil in the old testament.

  • http://www.fourward.com Warren Ward

    It is always God that gets blamed first for the weakness and evil nature of man, despite His teachings that would bring universal peace through His Son, Jesus Christ. The Bible does not teach what these fools say it does. What a trite answer! But the message of the Bible is Jesus Christ, the God of the Old Testament, and the Savior of the World in the New Testament. If we followed Him there would be no poverty or war. It would not be at the point of a gun through taxation that we would take care of each other, but it would be because we love God and want to take care of His children. So grow up and quit blaming true religion for the world’s evils, but blame false religion, including the religion of atheism, and greed- the real culprits.

    • Denniso

      No one has a gun pointed at them to help the less fortunate. We all pay taxes and taxes go to different things…military takes up most of the discretionary spending…police,fire protection,roads,bridges,research,NASA,and yes,food stamps for hungry people and children,and unemployment for some workers.

      Atheism is not a religion,as you and many others repeatedly say. It is very simply a philosophy that doesn’t include a belief in any sort of god. It’s a rightwing ploy to try and get people to believe that atheism is it’s own religion,yet to state that is like saying not having an ice cream cone is actually having one instead. It’s a nonsensical and illogical statement that is fundamentally meaningless.

      • Dale on the left coast

        “Atheism is not a religion”
        Really??? Prove It!!! Since you cannot . . . athiesm is a “Belief” there is no God, belief is a “Religeous Experience” . . . therefore an athiest is “religeous” by default!!!
        Scientists “Believe” in the big bang . . . although we have never seen an expolosion create a shopping centre, let alone a functioning planet.
        Scientists “Believe” in Anthropogenic Gorebull Warming . . . courts have acknowledged that is “Religion” . . . and of course at Cancun last week they prayed to a Myan goddess . . . guess the courts were correct!!!
        Athiests have killed more folks on the planet in the 20th century than all religions added together for milleniums . . . good going athiests!!!

        • denniso

          No, scientists don’t ‘believe’ in the big bang,they recognize it as the best current theory supported by the best available science to date.It can be proved wrong over time as more advances produce more evidence,as can any theory…that’s the fundamental difference between science and religion,the evidence directs the theory. Religion is based totally upon faith and emotion.

          You need to study the difference between a ‘belief’ as in religion,and the lack of a belief,as in atheism. Not believing in something is not the same thing logically as believing in the thing. That’s a bit like saying that believing you have an apple is the same as not believing you have one. It’s logically absurd, and doesn’t belong in an adult conversation. And, why do religious people insist that a non belief is a religion? Defensive that you believe?

          Do atheists or other non believers have a definite view and pilosophy of life? Sure,but they’re not all the same and there are major variations among all non believers.

          Pagans,Christians,Mormons,atheists,agnostics and others have killed people and playing a numbers game is pretty pointless. Evil people kill innocents,as Cheny/Bush did in Iraq,religious or not.

          • Effin Reed Tard

            Supremacy of Logic ! Like Theologics (Theology) or Philosophy (Formal Logic) ! I think your expressing “scientism” Mr. Denniso !

            But Logic is supreme – not Reason – not even Science !

          • Annette

            It’s refreshing to read something here that is not so very one sided!

        • patrick H.T. paine

          Are you familiar with the concept that you can not PROVE a negative?

          Logical reasoning demands that the burdon of proof rests with the
          positive assertion.

          “There is no god.” is not a positive assertion, and therefor bears
          no burdon, although it does seem to suffer from poor conceptual
          construction.

          Stated properly: There is no evidence for god. ( or gods, creator,
          intent, design ( intelligent or otherwise ) etc.

          Empiricism ( science and it’s method ) accepts the burdon of proof,
          and requires that explanations be capable of “falsification”.
          Metaphysical constructs ( non-physical ) can not be falsified,
          because by definition, they have no physical components.

          Metaphysical philosophies rely on what Isaac Asimov referred to as “judo arguments”, which seek to avoid the burdon of proof,
          by shifting it to the empirical, with the argument that if
          science can not “prove a negative”, then “god must be responsible”.

          The problem for Metaphysical constructs is that they are ultimately
          designed to explain the existance of the physical, in order to
          control, justify or direct behavior in the physical. In attempting
          this, they inadvertantly made claims which were empirical, and
          which were eventually demonstrated as false.

          Since these “explanations” were “divinely inspired”, they had no choice but to resist, even though the fact that they were in error
          had been clearly demonstrated.

          This state of affairs in nearly at an end, with the last refuge being
          the attempt to co-opt DNA, and the fact that science can not explain
          how it arose ( life from lifelessness ) represents the last bastion
          for the surviving metaphysical philosophies and the “god musta done it” judo argument.

          What is the ultimate absurdity of the persistance of these arguments
          and their appearance on sites like this is the contradiction they represent……..you are all discussing “physical things” which
          concern themselves with life, quality of life, etc.

          Yet for the “true believer” of any metaphysical explanation, all
          of this is irrelevant……..the goal to be achieved, is what
          happens “after death”……..and whatever your reward, it is
          not of this world……therefor, life whatever its condition,
          is irrelevant to you. Death is what you seek, death is what you worship, death is what you are eagerly willing to visit upon
          those who do not share your “faith”……..and it is what you fear
          and like every other living thing, seek to avoid at all costs, for
          as long as possible.

          The fact is that the only thing you know is life, and it is what you share with every other living thing…….stick with what you KNOW,
          you will then have something in common and therefor a basis for
          co-operation with other “humans”…….eternity and your particular
          fantasies regarding it can wait.

        • denniso

          Good job,but there’s an obvious point that you miss…true believers in anything don’t use logic in their belief system,so they are immune to the use of it. Proving a negative is possible if we look at a preponderance of evidence,much like a trial in our courts. If there is no evidence for an action or belief then we can reasonably say that it doesn’t exist. It’s not absolute,but then nothing is really absolute. I’ve argued for 50 yrs using logic and reason against superstition and myth and find it seldom gets anywhere at all.

          You would think that true believers would care less about their brief stay on earth when compared to their belief that they will live on for eternity…a long time.

  • bernard martin

    Hey Chip, your a typical reactionary, anti-intellectual buffoon who provides a never ending source of strength to those of us out here still about the struggle for an equitable and just society based on transparency and the exchange of ideas rather than the dissemination of innuendo and an underlying desire for censorship and control through the spread of fear and prejudice. Keep up the good work!

    • Effin Reed Tard

      I don’t understand your very long sentence. Could you break it down for me ?

  • Russ

    Blogger MLK should read Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. writings before promoting The Protocols on this site.
    “. . . You declare, my friend, that you do not hate the Jews, you are merely ‘anti-Zionist.’ And I say, let the truth ring forth from the high mountain tops, let it echo through the valleys of God’s green earth: When people criticize Zionism, they mean Jews–this is God’s own truth.
    “Antisemitism, the hatred of the Jewish people, has been and remains a blot on the soul of mankind. In this we are in full agreement. So know also this: anti-Zionist is inherently antisemitic, and ever will be so.
    “Why is this? You know that Zionism is nothing less than the dream and ideal of the Jewish people returning to live in their own land. The Jewish people, the Scriptures tell us, once enjoyed a flourishing Commonwealth in the Holy Land. From this they were expelled by the Roman tyrant, the same Romans who cruelly murdered Our Lord. Driven from their homeland, their nation in ashes, forced to wander the globe, the Jewish people time and again suffered the lash of whichever tyrant happened to rule over them.
    “The Negro people, my friend, know what it is to suffer the torment of tyranny under rulers not of our choosing. Our brothers in Africa have begged, pleaded, requested–DEMANDED the recognition and realization of our inborn right to live in peace under our own sovereignty in our own country.
    “How easy it should be, for anyone who holds dear this inalienable right of all mankind, to understand and support the right of the Jewish People to live in their ancient Land of Israel. All men of good will exult in the fulfilment of God’s promise, that his People should return in joy to rebuild their plundered land.
    This is Zionism, nothing more, nothing less.
    “And what is anti-Zionist? It is the denial to the Jewish people of a fundamental right that we justly claim for the people of Africa and freely accord all other nations of the Globe. It is discrimination against Jews, my friend, because they are Jews. In short, it is antisemitism.
    “The antisemite rejoices at any opportunity to vent his malice. The times have made it unpopular, in the West, to proclaim openly a hatred of the Jews. This being the case, the antisemite must constantly seek new forms and forums for his poison. How he must revel in the new masquerade! He does not hate the Jews, he is just ‘anti-Zionist’!
    “My friend, I do not accuse you of deliberate antisemitism. I know you feel, as I do, a deep love of truth and justice and a revulsion for racism, prejudice, and discrimination. But I know you have been misled–as others have been–into thinking you can be ‘anti-Zionist’ and yet remain true to these heartfelt principles that you and I share.
    Let my words echo in the depths of your soul: When people criticize Zionism, they mean Jews–make no mistake about it.”
    From M.L. King Jr., “Letter to an Anti-Zionist Friend,” Saturday Review_XLVII (Aug. 1967), p. 76.

    • libertytrain

      nicely done Russ, thanks.

    • Al Sieber

      Russ, you need to study history more, you’re wrong like 2 left shoes. Zionism is evil, and it’s more than 2 religions and ideas.

  • Russ

    Wonder why was “The Protocols of the Elders of Zion” not selected as one of the top 10 Worst Books for the 19th & 20th centuries? Tens of millions of copies have been printed of this “dangerous lie” and blood libel since 1897 to 1903 when it was written in Russia. Henry Ford sponsored the printing of 1/2 million copies of The Protocols in Dearborn, Michigan. Nazi’s love this book. The Saudi’s are still printing huge numbers of this book promoting racism and falsehoods to Arabs and Muslims. It is a best seller in Syria and widely pushed in many Muslims countries. Even today this propaganda is widely available throughout the world including Russia, Japan and in the US (especially from Louis Farrakhan’s Nation of Islam) . Some of the comments by bloggers (MLK) on this page even promote this racist book.
    Newworldencyclopedia dot org/entry/Protocols_of_the_Elders_of_Zion
    en.wikipedia dot org/wiki/The_Protocols_of_the_Elders_of_Zion

    • Effin Reed Tard

      The Protocols are a forgery by the Russian Czar’s secret police. They put the word “Jew” in it because they hate the Jews.

      Take the word “Jew” out and substitute it with another word (like “Martians” or “Germans” or how about “Smurfs”) . Take the word “goyim” out and substitute with “Munchkins” or “elves” or “Angle Saxons” or “Rednecks” …

      You could have a real good time editing it.

  • jopa

    I would have to say Going Rogue by Sarah Palin.Thousannds of copies were bouht by the GOP handed out for free but nobody has read them so no feedback as of yet.

    • Bob Wire

      my guess , there is a lot truth in such a statement jopa.

      I can’t image me setting down with such a book. I have a hard enough time reading Bill O’ Really’s books.

  • jopa

    Guess I will never write a book,I never proof read and correct my spelling.But in today’s world 98% of the authors don’t write the book they claim to have written.

  • WhiteRose

    @jopa….most politicians don’t write their books is probably more accurate.

    Just read a new book, not on this list, that’s about Americans standing up to tyranny/martial law that’s a thriller, but low on the radar. It’s so real w/surprise ending that I liked.

    www. booksbyoliver.com

    It’s kind of a rogue book but I’m giving it out this Xmas cause it’s about Americans taking a stand. Nothing you’ll find a politician writing about.

  • Bandit

    Bob, you can write a lot of shit.
    If you want to list the ten worst books, then please make sure you know what you are talking about.
    You do not have the faintest clue about history, and some of the people that wrote those books.
    You probably just saw it on TV!
    TV seems to be the general education media.
    No need to think, read or do some research.

    What you wrote about Mein Kampf and Adolf Hitler are just plain lies.
    Hitler NEVER said he wanted war.
    He NEVER said he wanted to kill Jews.
    Hitler was a good and honest man.
    Unlike any of the American Presidents.
    The scum that ruled and still rules America should be in Jail.
    If Hitler had won the war, this Planet would be a much better place for all.
    Including the Jews.
    If Hitler was so bad, then perhaps England and America should release the documents they seized from Germany.
    Let the truth be spoken.
    Why are those documents kept secret?
    Easy. To keep the truth away from the people.

    Like some of the readers in this column correctly say, the various religious books should be listed.
    The Christian church murdered 10 million women, by burning them alive at the stake.
    The Pope and his fellow Paedophiles should be brought to task.
    The way Islam treats their women should be highlighted.

    But no, Bob does not see the wood for the trees.
    Bob echoes the Jewish owned and controlled media.
    But America will soon taste the fruit of their labours.
    When America comes crashing down, and millions die,
    Then think of the lies the Americans spread in order to continue with their criminal activities against humanity.
    It is a pity that the masses are so blind.
    Just call them Sleep Sheep.
    Uneducated masses with a very limited awareness.
    And with such Sleep Sheep you can do what you want.
    They eat all your lies for the truth.

    • libertytrain

      wow, another accusatory “voice of reason” — good grief

    • Annette

      Scheisse! Bandit, man, you LIKE Hitler? Saying Hitler never wanted war is the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard (not to mention his not wanting to kill the jews). Or maybe I got my facts mixed up and it was Poland that attacked Deutschland!

      Some of you people really need to take a chill, it is people that kill people, not religion that kills people! (And Hitler definitely killed, and wanted to kill people.)

  • sparrow47

    Call me naive, but why is Darwin’s “Theory of evolution” in the dishonorable mentions? Its a well explained, valid counter-theory to creationism.

    And by the way unlike most of those books, people can and do rebut it and creationism freely, openly and rationally (unlike most of the books, where leftists descend into a shouting match…). I would think it promotes a healthy discussion on life and its origins…

    • Denniso

      ‘where leftists descend into a shouting match’? What does that mean?
      Have you noticed the tone from the rightwing for the past 30 yrs?

      You are naive if you haven’t noticed most rightwingers blasting Darwin and his theory as anti God,anti American,marxist,corrupting,pushing the eugenics movement and Aryan superiority. You are right in thinking that the theory should,and does among intelligent people,engender discussion and good debate about the origins of modern life.

  • nehope

    I would like to thank most of the writers on these various subjects for their input. I learned a lot from the more serious writers about books, e.g. Bible etc. and God, Christ and other stories. Since Christmas is just around the corner, I hope that my writing about Christmas will be accepted in a reasoable way. You can agree or disagree, but please don’t attack the messenger. If you have something to say, please address the subject. Thank you.
    Since “CHRISTMAS” may have more lines than this post will allow, I am putting it in smaller pieces.
    Part 1 = CHRISTMAS

    Any one who takes an interest in history, by reading encyclopedias, serious and sober written documents, will come to the conclusion that “CHRISTMAS” and “NEW YEAR’S” festivities are going back to the time of “BABYLON”. These days of celebrations by people who never heard anything of “CHRISTIANITY” and hundreds of years before “CHRIST” lived, were pagans. It was a great accomplishment of the Catholic Church to adopt this tradition as their own. It fitted into their doctrine. By adoption of these old practices of the pagans, Christianity was more attractive to those who did not (yet) belong to the new religion “CHRISTIANITY”.
    The celebration of what is now called “CHRISTMAS” predates CHRISTIANITY by at least 4000 years. The festival of giving presents and merry making was common knowledge to the people of this period.
    What is now IRAQ – formerly Mesopotamia – celebrated “NEW YEAR” with several symbolic actions. Some would make New Years resolutions, others reflected on the past year. A wide variety of mystical believes were used to justify the 12 days of year end and the beginning of the New Year. People indulged in many customs and it is a fact that Mesopotamia could be called the CRADLE OF CIVILIZATION.
    This region of the then known world was looked upon as the gospel and slowly the neighboring states imitated the customs of this land. The idea of this kind of FESTIVAL gained acception and spread through Greece to Rome. It also took the road through the Balkans into the heart of Europe. The FESTIVITIES as Mesopotamian’s knew it, originating in Babylon, did have great consequences in the future.
    The ROMAN EMPIRE, before the CHRISTIAN era, started the year-end festival and the beginning of the New year approx. December 17. December 25. was the shortest day, the sun was at it’s lowest ebb. The time was not measured in “MONTHS” but rather by seasons. Festivals, generated by season changes, were supposed to appease the Gods. On December 25. when the sun was standing at it’s lowest point in the heavens, the near future would bring longer days.

  • nehope

    CHRISTMAS Part 2 = December 25. was the heathen’s festivities in workshop of the sun. Approx. March 20. when the sun crosses the celestial equator, day and night are of the same equal length. This was the time the Pagans would celebrate SPRING.
    The Winter celebrations did include Bonfires in high places to strengthen the reviving sun in its course. Candles and green wreath were given as presents, the streets were crowded with noisy processions of men and women carrying lighted candles, and public places were decked with flowers and shrubs. The practice of giving and receiving presents was then almost as common as it is now at CHRISTMAS. What we call Christmas spirit is actually the spirit of this old Roman festival. By now, the Kalends of January, the day of the new moon and the first day of the month in the ancient Roman Calendar, was celebrated throughout the ROMAN EMPIRE.
    Emperor Aurelian (212? – 275 A.D.) proclaimed Mithraism the official state religion of the ROMAN EMPIRE. Emperor CONSTANTINE adopted CHRISTIANITY as the new RELIGION.
    Why and how was the birth of CHRIST getting importance ?
    Why was December 25. chosen for this birthday ?
    Very few people knew about Jesus or would be interested in his birthday. Not before the fourth century did the birth of JESUS get any particular attention by the followers of JESUS. By then, the idea to celebrate the birth date of Jesus, got more widespread consideration. The Pagans had their festivals but the Christians did not have anything to compete. December 25. was chosen because it co-incites with the Pagan festival and therefore could attract those who were not involved in this new religion, CHRISTIANITY. When was JESUS born ? I doubt that anyone has the inside knowledge on that one.I would challenge anyone to give a documented date and year.
    The contemporary writers of the time of Jesus’ birth do not mention him at all. It may be impossible to establish the proper day and year. However, that much is sure, the calendars have been changed and manipulated several times and it would be impossible now to determine the exact date.
    Matthew wrote that Jesus was born in Bethlehem in Judea in the days of Herold the king. According to available records Herold died a short time before the Jewish Passover 750 A.U.C. (Calendar designed by Dionysius Exiguus, a Roman).

    • http://donthaveone Beberoni

      Thing was, He was born, He did live, and He did die on the cross, and rise 3 days later in the fulfillment of the scriptures. Everything the Bible says, has the places over there that attest to them. Even his tomb and the large stone. His name appears in more original manuscripts than Nero or Julius Caesar, yet you all believe in those guys. And He did die for your sins, and you will meet Him, face to face, and give an account of yourself to Him. And it doesnt matter how much you helped people or did good, as works are dead with faith, as is faith some people have, without he good works that need to come with it. None of us are good, it is written, so dont think of yourself as good, because your not. Nor am I. We envy, we lust, we take a paperclip from the office or tell that little white lie. Its all sin, yet we try to exhonerate ourselves, by pointing out someone worse. It doesnt matter. You take that paper clip from work, or you rob the bank. Youve both stolen. One is not worse that the other. But we try to convince ourselves that we arent bad. But you see, we are. And thats why we need Jesus Christ to forgive us our sins, because we cannot inherit heaven been soiled and dirty. I wish you could understand. But without Christs light, your not going to get it.

  • nehope

    CHRISTMAS part 3 =This would place the birth of Jesus between the years of 748 and 747 A.U.C. , this is 5 or 6 B.C. Some historians even go back as far as 8 B.C.
    The season, Jesus was born, could not have been during the winter. There are two reasonable arguments which dispute the birth of Jesus during winter time.
    • 1) Caesar Augustus decreed that all the world under roman power should be taxed. It is unreasonable to assume that Augustus would have send his Tax collectors out during the winter time.
    • 2) By Luke’s account the shepherds were abiding in the field keeping watch over their flocks by night. That would indicate that Jesus was born in summer or early fall.
    December is cold in Judea, the shepherds would not be out in the open to look after their herds. This is common sense.
    You know the old saying : “If you can’t fight them , join them”. Well, that is exactly what the early Christian community did. Instead of fighting the old established customs of the Pagans, they went ahead and adopted their customs and RENAMED them. That was simple and it surely worked. The Catholic Church managed in taking over the merriment, the greenery, the lights and the gifts from old established patterns and incorporated them for their own purpose.
    By choosing December 25. the Catholic Church grasped the opportunity to turn the people away from the pagan observance of the winter solstice to a day of adoration of Christ the lord. She simply made the old heathen Festival of the sun to the birth of Jesus Christ. The church by making the pagan festival also the Fest of the Nativity, “sanctified” it, and thus as Christianity gained ground slowly but surely changed its ancient worship for the material sun into that of the true light of the World.
    In order to make the festival appeal to the Pagans the days between December 25. and January 6. were caught up into one “holy” season, with the birth of Christ at the beginning and the coming of the “Three wise men” at the end. The days between Christmas and Epiphany became known as the twelve Nights of Christmas.

  • nehope

    CHRISTMAS Part 3 = The early Christian Church fought intensively the customs of the Pagans, but the old customs could not be uprooted and destroyed. So, the next best thing was for the Christian Church to incorporate some of the festive periods and named them to suit their purpose. The old traditions lived on (and still do today) and in order to make them presentable to their flock they “purified” the “labels” and applied their own. The fact remains that these Heathen contributions to the celebration of the nativity are what make Christmas what it is today. Lighted candles, evergreens, fruits and nuts, feast and merriment, giving presents – these are the basic pagan principles which the Catholic church could not destroy.
    The Germans, the Gauls and Britons celebrated December 25. and the Norsemen held Yule feasts between December 25. and January 6., long before anyone heard of Christianity. Exchanging of Gifts and season greetings at or near Christmas began long before the Catholic Church started to incorporate the old customs of the pagans. Gift-giving was an important part of the pagan celebrations. During the first few centuries Christians did not practice the exchange of presents during the Christmas season.
    Knowing that Christ was not born on December 25. – what is the excuse of the Christian Religion for celebrating “CHRISTMAS”?
    It is not for me to say what anyone should believe.

    • libertytrain

      I can’t speak for you or others, I know that for me that this date was chosen whatever the reason, and yes, I’ve read these things that appear as profound revelations to some for years. What does it matter. A day was chosen to celebrate the birth of Christ. Enjoy the celebration of His birth or not, your prerogative.

  • nehope

    Sorry I got the part numbers mixed up. Last remittance should have been # 4. Please accept my apology. W.

  • Shame Less

    for anyone disputing the harm caused by the BIBLE, you are the lost cause the plague on our future, your cander towards the historical evidence is not astonishing it is expected, our own history denotes that every single one alive now is crazy by definition, we all repeat the same motions that have been repeated for centuries and expect a different result therefore we are all crazy, both sides. those that wish to change and those who don’t, we will all happily wait for the rapture and when it comes the whole world will sing in joy because those that want to be here will be celebrating with tears of joy as we watch the world get its first chance at real freedom, while you float off to the rapture and your eternal happiness far from our wickidness . I truly hope that the bible is right because I want to see the world free off you just as much as you wish to be free of it. GODSPEED to you all and don’t forget to take all the religious books with you not just the bible, we evil people have ample faith in ourselves to live without a needing an instruction manual, so let us when you leave. godbless you all, hope your rapture comes next year!

    • http://donthaveone Beberoni

      The Bible has not cause harm in the world. Evidently, you havent read it, and dont have the Holy Spirit dwelling in you, which is neccessary to understand it. It is written several times, that it is a mystery. And it will remain so to the unbeliever. You need to understand, the Bible was not written for the unbeliever. It was written for the believer, as a guide of how we are to live. Only having been endowed with the Holy Spirit inside is one able to digest it and understand it. Rather than cause harm as you say, the Bible is the solution to the harm caused by the world. You see, the world is satan. And the world is satans playground. As the Bible says, you cannot Love the Lord and love the world. The two are two totally different things. The world is all the material things and money and sex and drugs and rock and roll, the self indulgences and pleasures we seek for ourselves. God is the love, the giving of ourselves for the betterment of others. The world does not know this, or accept this. The world teaches us, to grab all you can while you can. It tells us to chase money and sex and power. Those truly are all the things of satan, but those of the world are enthralled by these things. They are their god. Jesus Christ is the solution for the harm this world causes, just the opposite of your statement. If you knew Him, and you could then read and understand His word, you would fully recognize and know this. Evidently for you , this is not so. In knowing this, I will pray for you now. Have a great day.

      • Denniso

        The only ‘holy spirit’ is what is in the hearts and minds of millions of people all over the world who fight for what’s right,fair and just, for others,regardless of any or no religious belief. People who fight for a clean environment,fair wages and working conditions,civil rights for all, at their own financial peril. People who devote their lives to freeing those unjustly imprisoned,persecuted and tortured. The ‘holy’ people who fight to make this earthly life(the only one we have)as comfortable as possible for all humans and ‘lesser’ animals.

      • Shame Less

        if your bibles are so true and convey the wisdom of Jesus.
        then where is the BOOK OF JESUS!!!
        seems to me if someone wanted to start a religion they would have written out the guidelines themselves, not left it to be compiled by people who didn’t even live in the same lifetime. Oh and telling me to read books, I’m an ex-wackjob, I had sunday school, bible camp, and have read the entire bible three times(I figured it out before I was twelve), my entire family is obnoxiously religious and always has been.
        I know more about the bible than most religious people, nearly all Satan lovers do because we used to be you.We did do the research that is why we aren’t like you anymore. Only the religious deny historical facts, we(everybody else) accept all “FACTS”then reach EDUCATED conclusions. try doing the research yourself, please. I mean it sincerely look to those sites you think are full of lies and try to disprove them, yes some are misinformation but not all and isn’t even one bit of truth good or bad worth the effort? I would rather see people similar to you informed and still faithful, than uninformed and faithful.
        “one should not give advice on which side of the river is best to live on without having lived life on both” Lame Shess

  • http://www.youtube.com/user/MarcusCMarcellus?feature=mhum Marcus

    Antonio Gramsci’s Prison Notebooks was far more influential than other mentioned. It gave the Left it’s “march through the institutions” project. Elena Kagan Sotomayor and Ginsberg would understand – as would Obama.

  • Shame Less

    oh and “IF” your rapture doesn’t come then I guess you all have to…….well we all know better if the rapture doesn’t come you won’t change. The rest of us will just have to continue on and maybe someday be able leave this planet ourselves and forever separate us from you FOREVER. Like the pilgrims that left their overbearing religions behind and tried (failed misserably) to establish a home without you.
    Any of you thinking of arguing religions innocence need only look at the people that lived in this country first and ask their opinions, oh wait you can’t they are dead along with all their historical records because your religion deemed it so. for all of you who don’t understand the true amount of death caused just in the Americas by your religion.
    YOUR RELIGION KILLED OVER 28,000,000 (thats million)natives and destroyed all their cultural records no conquering nation has ever been that ruthless or so precisely wiped a culture from the world or even tried to and that was not the first time for BIBLE BASED religions.
    Just because you don’t want to accept the wrong doings of something you support doesn’t change that they are facts. Facts are forever just like your shame will be when you finally get your rapture from God and she/he shows you the truth/history.good luck dealing with the pain of knowing for eternity, i do not envy you.
    Any religion that causes even the death of one innocent is therefore evil and should be banned forever so it can’t cause more death. So by that statement every single religious book is on that list,none are exceptions they have all been killed for or died for thus they are destuctive.
    how in the hell did Darwanism make the list nobody died for that?!?
    oh yeah stop mentioning hitler, dude didn’t even have power until the second WW. And YES the Vatican did support him< debate the dates all you want they still supported him and lets not forget Mussolini he too had vatican support.

    • http://marcum@wildblue.net coal miner

      Shame Less,

      Amen!

  • Shame Less

    only 6,000,000 jews – so bible lovers you are officially indoctrinated into the GENOCIDE CLUB.

    Now be proud of yourselves and remember not to let your children find out you know these things cause when they find out, if they realize you knew and didn’t tell them they will never forgive you and you will have guarantied their conversion to anything but your religion. so keep lying and hope the truth is never seen, its worked for you so far.

  • http://donthaveone Beberoni

    I would highly suggest for all you atheists out there, to read some books by Lee Strobel. The Case for Christ, The Case for a Creator, or The Case for Faith. He was an avid athiest. He decided that ok, if people say this Jesus guys exists, Im going to do an investigation for myself. So he did a two year investigation, and he found there truly was this God named Jesus Christ, and the rest is history. If you are an avid atheist, by all means, you do need to investigate this, and if you want to cut to the chase, read this guys books. God wants you to investigate Him. You just might find out something that will save your life. Or you can be scared and stay away. Of course, that is what satan wants. He doesnt want you to discover the truth. The ball is in your court.

    • Denniso

      People can believe in Jesus if they want to,but there is no record of him anywhere except the bible. The bible doesn’t count as a credible source because it is written as a religious tract.

      Even if there was a Jesus back then,it is another question entirely as to what his nature was. Most likely he was a man leading a small rebellion against the authorities and was executed for it as were thousands others during Roman rule. If he existed he was not unique in his rebellion,only slightly so for his adherence to peaceful resistence. Ironic isn’t it that so many of his followers now are much more agressive and war like in their supposed following of him.

  • http://PersonalLibertyDigest Linda

    these are obamas favorites you witless people that voted for him I h ope you are all laid off your jobs and mexicans took them away from you thats all i have to say

  • jopa

    Shameless;I don’t think it was religion that killed 28,000,000 American Indians.I believe Johnny Cash had it right in The Ballad of Ira Hayes when he sang about the white man’s greed.The white man killed for the land and water rights.

    • Denniso

      But Christianity did play a very big role in the extermination of the Natives as it gave the whites the pretext for what they did…the Natives were ‘savages’ and so were less worthy of living than the ‘Christian’ white man who had the one ‘true’ god. Their religion also gave them the rational for trying to exterminate the Native religions and culture…stealing Native children,cutting their hair and sending them to white run boarding schools while erasing their culture as well.

  • jopa

    Denniso:I guess you may be right in what you say by the way the people on this site react to Muslims, blacks ,Jews etc.They in so many ways feel they are superior to everyone else.I thought we were all God’s children.They have a strange way of behaving if they are true Christians, however I imagine everyone has their own interpretation of what is right an what is wrong and interperet to justify their own actions.

    • libertytrain

      I imagine everyone does have their own interpretation as you have so often demonstrated just as you say others do.

      • denniso

        Everyone has their own beliefs,but that isn’t the point. Too many Christians don’t just have their opinions but instead think they have the only ‘truth’,and often condemn their ‘enemies’ to burn in hell for eternity. Not very ‘Christian’ of them,would you say?
        Many other people have firm opinions about life and the world but don’t demonize their opposition and instead try to use persuasion and discussion and logic to win over other people w/ differing views,as we should be able to do in our form of gov’t.

  • Michael Dresden

    Mein Kampf, Chip adds, “the deaths of hundreds of thousands of soldiers and civilians, and the slaughter of millions of Jews”

    Germany alone lost 5-6 million soldiers killed,the invasion of Soviet Union cost soviet military 10-20 million killed, European civilians other than jews could be in range of 20-30 million. Poland including polish jews lost perhaps 10 million killed, and yes about 6 million jews killed.

    • Shame Less

      Your comparing a war that lasted (in all forms) at most ~40~ years to the ~400+ years~ in the americas against people with sticks that welcomed and helped their murderers survive.
      Their is no comaparison!Disgusting that you would even try.

      The 6 million includes polish and all other jews in Europe, there is no country Jew so where did you think that number was from, its the total of all jewish deaths rounded “UP”.

  • http://johngroll816@comcast.net John S. Groll

    I can only hope the book I am writing gets such wide acclaim as these 10 worst books. Sarah Jones Housewife President United States oa America will be a book once completed will combine humor with serouis political discussion, along with conversative answers to form the “more prefect union” of what has been learned in the past. Let it be know I don’t endorse anything in these books, what I do admired is the number of copies of these books found their way into circulation, and I hope my book does at least as well as Upton Sinclair’s book, The Jungle

  • Travis

    Smithsonian, try reading The Bible. If works count for nothing then why did he admonish people for their works? Are you trying to say only bad works count?

  • kiefman

    Don’t forget, but rather remember for ever, that it must be added to this killer-book collection at least 2 very bad murderous books. The 1-st the QUR’AN! The 2-nd all writings of a german madman MARTIN LUTHER. He learned his murderous lovings from moslem islamic ideas written in QUR’AN, known as the book for no infidels or humans, but for the animalistic moslem gangs, the ancestic wildhords of MUHAMMAD, the one and only Arab they called for their true Prophet who gave and filled their empty heads with truly easy arabic paradises full of baby virgins. Muhammad’s arabic book-ideas and german MARTIN LUTHER’s pure teutonic words, who for the sex his wife didn’t give him, left her, angry at Jews who didn’t follow his diabolic inhuman wish, are the BASIS for EVIL which since torture the Entire Human World created by God of Love…

  • kiefman

    God of Human Love and Human Reason and Human Sanity isn’t the Evilness of Allah the Devil, and it isn’t the Insanity of germanic abnormality! What Human is, it is NOT what oppose or is against Laws of Human Beings. What isn’t human thinking or human essencial ideas promote true evil human killings. To kill in self-defence, that’s a human law and duty to all humanly, Men and Menhood, fully to follow as the result of observed human meanings. Never to kill first, never ever without a reason of using defence. Because when you are killed and murdered, you are no more to have to say or to explain about your own innocence. Bully murderers with own maniac ideas of murderng all who oppose, for no other reason than easy to dominate as masters of bloodthirsty tyranny brought upon all, better at once that those be catched and judged as deserved and doomed to death before they be able to start their beasty inhumanly drills committing indispicable butcher-killings on the entire rest of their indifferent species representing true being united in living humanity by peace and dignity with each other. All creazy madmen, maniacs and lunatics, religious or not, are dangerous animals, far more to fear now in our modern times…

  • I

    Wow, I liked the first 4 choices, but then it just broke down into a bunch of neo-conservative garbage. JRC nailed it. Those three BY FAR have killed the most people in the last 2000 years. I love how Christians turn a blind eye to all the evil shit done in the name of the bible. i.e the crusades

    p.s. is chip a birther?

  • Cc

    You forgot the old man and the sea

  • Annette

    Wow, so much hating on the Torah, the Bible, and the Qur’an!!! I’m not religious, but I have to say that I’m pretty sure that, at least the New Testament, is all about peace, love, forgiveness, and decent stuff like that, and that is is politicians that distort the messages to serve and agenda. It is not the Torah, Bible, or Qur’an’s fault that people use them to serve an agenda, they might be manifestos of a sort, but they are a far cry from Mein Kampf…people on the internet are such trolls! Hitler wasn’t a real Christian! He might have been raised a Christian, but the Nazis developed their own religion (yah, they called it “Positive Christianity” but it wasn’t really Christianity). They basically censored the bible to cut out all Jewish aspects and distorted it in a way so that it made Jesus sound more like a Germanic hero out of Nibelungenlied. So calling Hitler Christian is only slightly less absurd then calling Hitler Jewish.

    Oh, and Twilight is the worst book ever…I didn’t much care for Wuthering Heights either. (The Iliad is where it’s at, and I <3 Sense and Sensibility)—I apologies for the countless spelling and grammatical blunders…peace out!

  • Jon

    So this guy thinks you should hit your kids, restrict public assembly, vote for cain, and learn nothing from the evils of Hitler. Chip, are you seriously this shameless?

  • white

    Silly rabbit! What is the difference between liberty and freedom, other than that is seems other people gaining the latter seems to threaten your possession of the former, though what those actually are (of any you or any man or woman has any right to), I can’t imagine, and I expect you only imagine them yourself. If you just had left Mein Kampf off your list, I might have bitten, at least for a while. No matter what political axe is being ground, comparisons to Hitler (from the far right or the far left) fall down hard. Thomas Dewey? Really? Really? I can read Sun Tzu, Machiavelli, and Churchill without it a prior conclusion it is all militaristic, greedy, inbred aristocratic ranting, and find much of value there. Did you actually read The Capital? Cover to cover? Maybe one of 20 people without a doctorate to do so, then. . .

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