The War Of The Two Obamas

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I’m going to make this one simple, everyone. After all, if the fact that 91 percent of Americans want war in Syria almost as much as they want Obamacare, union thugs at their workplaces and the National Security Agency reading their emails doesn’t stop President Barack Obama from sending our service personnel to the sand-infested craphole next door to the one they just left, there’s only one other person who might be able to stop them at the goal line: Obama.

Actually, I’ll yield the floor to then-Illinois State Senator Barack Obama, who shared the following foreign policy gem with a crowd of redoubtably anti-war Democrats in October 2002:

I don’t oppose all wars. What I am opposed to is a dumb war. What I am opposed to is a rash war… What I am opposed to is the attempt…to distract us from a rise in the uninsured, a rise in the poverty rate, a drop in the median income, to distract us from corporate scandals… That’s what I’m opposed to. A dumb war. A rash war. A war based not on reason but on passion, not on principle but on politics. Now let me be clear: I suffer no illusions about Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal man. A ruthless man. A man who butchers his own people to secure his own power… The world, and the Iraqi people, would be better off without him… But I also know that Saddam poses no imminent and direct threat to the United States, or to his neighbors… and that in concert with the international community he can be contained until, in the way of all petty dictators, he falls away into the dustbin of history.

The same guy who wants to start rolling tanks into Syria in the immediate future said that about rolling tanks into Iraq just more than a decade ago. I know Obama likes to frame his policy shifts in terms of “evolution,” but asking us to keep straight faces on that magnificent a hypocrisy is just plain mean. Expecting us not to notice that he suddenly got serious about flexing military muscle at the same moment his stateside scandals reached a new fever pitch is likewise cruel. It’s almost as vicious as requiring the entire Democratic machine twist itself like a double-jointed Cirque Du Soleil contortionist on prescription muscle relaxers. By the way, Saddam had definitely used chemical weapons on his own people and invaded other countries, facts that cannot be welded to the current Syrian mess.

Having dispensed with his Presidency, let me point out the silver lining in the latest leaden cloud that floats above us: Neocon warmongers like Paul Wolfowitz and Karl Rove may be fading, but their heirs have been made apparent. Speaker of the House John Boehner, House Majority Leader Eric Cantor and many members of the Republican establishment are standing up to be counted with Obama on Syria. The Republicans — who, theoretically, should be our white knights against the Democratic Huns — have turned their lances on us. They’re so enamored of war that they’ll even side with Obama — not to mention al-Qaida (it’s true, kiddies!) — for the chance to lob cruise missiles into another place with a funny-sounding name.

Meanwhile, Obama has arrived at loggerheads with his former self. His latest ploy involves attempting to make his war in Syria a referendum on everyone’s credibility but his own. At least he has that part right. It’s not as if he has any credibility to spare.

–Ben Crystal

Personal Liberty

Ben Crystal

is a 1993 graduate of Davidson College and has burned the better part of the last two decades getting over the damage done by modern-day higher education. He now lives in Savannah, Ga., where he has hosted an award-winning radio talk show and been featured as a political analyst for television. Currently a principal at Saltymoss Productions—a media company specializing in concept television and campaign production, speechwriting and media strategy—Ben has written numerous articles on the subjects of municipal authoritarianism, the economic fallacy of sin taxes and analyses of congressional abuses of power.

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  • independent thinker

    Obama was agin it before he was for it.

    • independent thinker

      Let me rephrase that: Obama was against war before he was for it.

  • 4lifeandfreedom

    Biblical prophecies unfold once again, and guess who is at the helm of the destruction to America! But, do not fear, God will not be mocked–He has always been in control, is now, and always will be.
    “God Bless America, Land that I love”……………..

  • unbridled

    HE HAS NO CONCEPT WHERE TRUTH IS CONCERNED. HE IS BY NATURE A PATHOLOGICAL LIAR WITH NO ALLEGIANCE TO ANYTHING OR ANYONE ASIDE FROM HIMSELF. HE IS THE SON OF SATAN….

  • peter

    Right Ben. How can he refer to something which he now has none of? That is tantamount to a serial killer delivering a sermon on the first commandment!

  • Warrior

    I wonder what “Julia” would do? Had enough of this “pretender” yet?

  • 1baronrichsnot1

    He like many politicians are gas bags, leaking their fake passions all over the place, spewing words that sound good, but have much different agendas and actions. So far, there has been no evidence of any sort of intelligent foriegn policy except, crossing lines, and spitting over the left shoulder, knock this stick off my shoulder. God, what a policy!

    • Bill

      Good comment, Baron

  • 1baronrichsnot1

    what happens if the syrians shoot back, what happens if they missle Israel for our actions, what happens if putin installs a missle shield for this regime, what happens if we blow up some WMD and it kills some human shields, gases a hospital, or a real catastrophy, suppose we miss and hit Al Quida!

    • native blood

      I think you are on to something! We just need a quick air strike on the Al Quida rebels and then just leave! Not to be though! CIA and Mosaad hired the rebels in the first place. The bankers are ticked off because Syria won’t play ball with the USDollar.

      • WTS/JAY

        Before 9/11 guess what 2 countries DID NOT have a Rothschild owned and started Central Bank; Afghanistan and Iraq.

    • Robert Messmer

      That is a good point! Everyone has been talking about Russia, China, and Iran taking a hand at retaliation but no one (that I know of anyway) has even mentioned Syria itself. After all, didn’t our esteemed leader say that the strike would not be aimed at Assad nor would it be aimed at the stockpiles of cw? So, if Obama & Kerry are correct and it was Assad, Obama is going to leave Assad in power and in complete control of his cw stockpiles. Don’t you think Assad will be a little peeved?

  • Amber

    I can’t figure out why he is so concerned with people in Syria losing their lives. 50 Million aborted babies in the US and growing every day. Then he is cutting the servicemen in Afghanastan’s pay. I guess that is to help pay for the war in Syria.
    I wish someone would explain his logic.

    • Robert Messmer

      To be fair, Obama is not cutting the military pay. What he is doing is restricting next year’s pay raise to a flat 1%, instead of the 1.8% that the formula calls for. Still sucks but not a pay cut, just not as big a raise as it should be. Domestic abortions which are legal and only the business of the women, partners, doctors and gods involved, not the government’s business have no part in foreign relations and zero effect of overseas wars.

  • dan

    Things you’ll never hear in reference to pResident Lucifer :
    integrity ,charactor , patriotism
    What better way to kill and demoralize patriots than send them
    into the desert to die in vain…if he provokes the Russians , Chinese
    and Iran to counter-attack us, he gets the trifecta….
    all the Christians die and the Muslims win.

  • real talk 1

    What I don’t understand is if we have a fool at the helms running the country in the ground and know it why don’t we just throw the bum or in this case bums out of office and be done with it , We can forget the constitution for the moment the president and his administration has and they have no intentions of stopping , so why do we let them destroy this nation????

    • rb

      As evidenced by our last election it is plainly clear these people will not be voted out of office. Take a good long look at all the evidence of blatant voter fraud and downright rigging of some voting booths along with the fact that absolutely no investigations were done when fraud was clearly proven and then tell me the last presidential election was not rigged. We do need to throw the bums out. Probably would have thrown a lot of them out in the last election. Unfortunately it has become glaringly clear that voting is no longer an option for change.

      • John Cherish

        We need an Egyptian style military coup, to take out this corrupt government we have arrest the criminals now in office, and temporarily run things while we return it to civilian control. I for one would support our military to do this. We do not need to invade any country to kill this snake, we just need to cut off its head in Washington DC

        • CJ

          They have already removed any military officer with the steel to do so. All that remains are ‘yes men’.

      • Bill

        Good comment rb,
        Even illegals vote to keep their freebies

  • http://batman-news.com Jim B

    The ridiculous bombing strategy should be OVER, Russia has indicated that they have cashes of nuclear material scattered about Syria… and why wouldn’t they! All we need to do is bomb one of these unknown locations and release the Jeanne from the bottle. Headlines will read…. US Uses Nuclear Bombs on Innocent Syrian Population. If the citizens of the US don’t stop our ‘out of control government’ from doing yet another stupid incitement of war on another country, then we will all reap the terrible, and deadly, consequences. The POTUS needs to be impeached, his ruinness foreign, economic, and social policies is an all-out assault that is destroying this country for which it stands.

  • rb

    So much for the Nobel Peace Prize. Bet they’ll give him a Nobel Prize for economics next.

  • ISHKABIBEL

    We along with the Mossad & Britain have created al-Qaeda, so why not clear their path for victory in Syria? Just like Obama’s support for Muslim B’hood, this was inevitable!

  • Patriot_Dave

    I know it’s obvious that ‘O’ is demonized by the right when he spouts left wing rhetoric (that’s a no-brainer)…but now that he has the attention of the War Hawks and is calling for WAR in Syria…he’s still being demonized BY THE RIGHT!! WTH?….

    The far right wing nut fringers have fiercely pounced on THAT this morning as Theists are springing up everywhere claiming he is Lucifer or some other mythical demon spawn out to destroy us all….. Seriously?

    IMO…Syria is a TRAP that WE should stay CLEAR of…. PERIOD!!! Let Nato, the UN or best YET…LET the Arab League Sort this Crap out!!!

    The real question here is WHO will benefit the most by the US going to war with Syria?…. Anyone?

    • John Cherish

      The Saudi’s will benefit greatly think back Obama bowing to The king of Saudi Arabia, the Bush’s cozy relationship with them how about this gem in 1974 Henry Kissinger ( Nixon’s man) in order to pay for LBJ’s wars, Nixon took us off the Gold standard when the French found out by deduction that we had no Gold to back our dollars and tried to run on the remaining gold in the treasury. The deal was with the Saudi’s (OPEC) that they would only take Dollars for their oil. Who is currently pushing behind the scenes the rebellion in Syria. Take a guess, The Saudi’s so who will benefit most again. The Saudi’s as they become the regions most influential government. They have a problem right now its Syria’s Assad a Shiite and Iran another Shiite government. Who do you think they will get to do their Dirty work…Obama

      • Bill

        Good Analogy, John.
        It is obvious that you have a head on your shoulders

    • BEN CARSON & PALIN IN 2016

      Al-Qaeda will!

    • native blood

      Ratheon, L-3 Communications, Halliburton, Monsanto, Sperry Rand, Lake City Arsenal, service recruiters, CNN, Federal Reserve bank, Seimens, Boeing, Grummon, Motorola, General Motors, Chrysler, Camel Back, Colt Arms, Armalite, HP, Microsoft, Coca Cola, BP, Exxon, etc. et al

      • Patriot_Dave

        Exactly!!

    • vicki

      Patriot_Dave writes:

      I know it’s obvious that ‘O’ is demonized by the right when he spouts left wing rhetoric (that’s a no-brainer)…but now that he has the attention of the War Hawks and is calling for WAR in Syria…he’s still being demonized BY THE RIGHT!! WTH?….

      That is because you are paying attention to the wrong paradigm.
      That and war hawks are not “the right”.

      Here is the paradigm that you need to pay attention to.
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N4r0VUybeXY

      The far right wing nut fringers..

      Argument to ridicule.

      • Patriot_Dave

        Interesting youtube piece… Thanks Vicki!! Looks all we need to do is keep the Oligarchists/Elitists out of OUR government!!! It is obvious that both sides are working against the middle!!! However, I must stand by my “Far right wing nut fringers” comment…. Because…they are….

        • vicki

          Using argument fallacies does not improve our points but does give the left or whatever a chance to claim hypocrisy and or do it themselves leaving little substantive discussion.

          I am glad you enjoyed the video. It helped me understand the constant confusion over the “left vs right” seeming inability to be consistent.

          And we most certainly agree we need to get rid of all those who are ignoring their oath of office.

      • WTS/JAY

        That’s right, Patriot_Dave. It’s a trap, or a false-flag. Another words, business as usual. The business of war, that is. Who’s behind it? Banker’s, that’s who. Obama’s no different from Bush, or any other of his predecessors. The left-wing lunatics try and portray him as something different from all the rest. That somehow he is going to change the status-quo. Lol! How deluded is that, i ask you? Obama is just another empty-suit in the service of the Big money-interest. The same chit as all the others!

        http://thearrowsoftruth.com/all-wars-are-bankers-wars/

  • red neck

    “Now let me be clear”… obama you are a complete FOOL!

    Whenever the idiot obama uses the cliché “now let me be clear” you can bet your arse that he is going to be lying about something…. I just want to be clear…obama you are a pig and a useless idiot!!!!!

  • flashy

    Let’s be clear. Since WWI. what countries have used chemical weapons ? Hmmm… Sammy Hussein, and Bush I gave him a hall pass. Musolini against Ethiopia, Japan in China in ’34. Not even Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Brezhnev, Nixon, et…. none resorted to chemical or bio weaponry.

    Now, because the crazies went to war via lies during the 00’s, we are not allowed to act in a moral vein against the horrors of chemical weapons, a use the UN verified ? Yeah yeah … the crazies deny they demanded everyone believe the lies if Bush Ii/Cheney … denying fact and reality does not change fact and reality folks ….

    Admit it folks, you have lost all perspective and sanity. the only issue you support are those which are anti American and pro American Taliban, or support corporatism sacrificing our middle class and our economy. you have no solutions…only adolescent temper tantrums.

    • Moustache The First

      But, you miss a key point…perhaps as many believe we were not lied to, or more appropriately, Bush was not lied to by the CIA, Mossad, MI6, or French intell. & that Saddam did have chemical weapons, but they were moved to Syria as he saw us beating the drums of war! After all, the whole arsenal can fit in a small basement space.

      Still, I would not go in now, it’s too late in the ballgame. Just try ot help those who have fled their homes & are now refugees.

    • http://personalliberty.com/ Bob Livingston

      Dear flashy,

      You write: “a use the UN verified ?” I do not believe that is the case, though I may have missed it. Please provide a source.

      The rest of your comment is your usual argle-bargle, nonsense, ad hominem and sophistry.

      Best wishes,
      Bob

      • independent thinker

        Mr. Livingston I remember seeing a claim that the UN had verified the use of Sarin in one or more of the attacks but I think the claim was made by Kerry not a UN spokesperson. I also just found the following in an NBC news article.

        “According to the U.N., the blood and environmental samples collected in Ghouta were sent two European labs, which began testing on Wednesday. U.N. spokesman Farhan Haq said he could not provide a timetable for when the tests would be completed. But under rules of the Organization for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons, which carried out the U.N. inspections, the labs have 15 days to test the samples for chemical weapons residue or telltale chemical compounds caused by breakdown of toxic agents, determine what type of chemical – if any – was used in the attack and report their findings.

        If the tests are positive, the labs will not make a determination on who fired the chemical weapons. That would fall to the U.N. to investigate.”
        This would indicate the UN does not yet have definitive proof of the use of Sarin or other chemical agents.

    • Bill

      Flashy,
      You should get your head out of Obamas backside

    • Al Chemist

      There are at least two methods to ID war gases or the products of decomposition: GC/MS and/or LC/MS, and it does not take all that long to prepare the sample specimens and run them (by a competent Chem. Tech.) Any competent chemist can verify the components. That assumes that there are actual valid samples to run in the first place.

      • Al Chemist

        Still waiting for ANY LAB in the world to report those results.

    • momo

      A first. Flashman beating the drum for war because his hero redlined his a$$ into a corner. You’re patheitc flashman.

    • ISHKABIBEL

      You know damn well that if these same actions were taken by a GOP prez you would be screaming for his head from the rooftops & if a GOP prez used drones like OBlahBlah has, you would be ask that they be taken away to the Hague & charged with war crimes!

      • Patriot_Dave

        Don’t muddy the waters here…. ‘O’, ‘W’, Cheney, Rumsfeld and a whole HOST of other MIC cronies all deserve to be tried and convicted of WAR CRIMES against Humanity!!!!

    • Alan

      Zyklon-B wasn’t a “chemical weapon”? Tell that to the Jews who died in massive numbers due to it’s use on them.

    • chuck byard

      Hey Flashy, What about your hero Truman, that was pretty big weaponry, but, I guess radioactivity doesn’t count as chemical huh.

      At this same time, can you or Barry prove it was Assad who used gas? Putin, who I would believe at this time over the liar in the White house, says the rebels did it. That makes more sense to me, I don’t think Assad would resort to warfare of that type when he is winning the battle. I can see the Al Qaeda doing it, they everything to gain and nothing to lose, especially when the they have their comrade in the White House kneeling on his rug.and backing them up like he did in Egypt.

      Admit it Flashy, you are the one having the temper tantrum, we know Barry can’t be trusted, we know what happened in Egypt, We know what happened in Benghazi, we know what happened in the fast and furious episode, We know who used the IRS as a political tool and most of all we know Obamacare is going to be another fiasco.
      In fact Barry Soetoro has been a complete failure in everything he has handled in the last five years so what person in their right mind could give him the authority to bomb a country who does not threaten our security? Get out your rug and pray to your Allah, this man doesn’t get this authority and possibly start ww3.

    • WTS/JAY

      What are you saying, Flashy, you wish to go to war? Why, because Obama says so? Typical liberal-hypocrite, aren’t you? War is only bad under a Republican-president. Ain’t that right, Flashy? You have lost all perspective and sanity. The only issue you support are those which are anti American and pro American Taliban, or support corporatism sacrificing our middle class and our economy. You have no solutions…only adolescent temper tantrums.

    • The Snarf

      Perspective and sanity? We’re not the ones, after 5 years of Obama’s lies, thuggery and scandals, STILL stuck on Bush/Cheney. What rock have you been living under?

      • Quester55

        B.K.,Just like their master, those that Support Obama, Refuse to take Responsibility for His or Their own Actions!
        That’s Why they are Willing to Dig up the Nearly dead Republican presidents & blame them for OBAMA’S Own Madness!
        The Problem is, If Something happened to Obama, We’d all be stuck with Little Joe, & None of us would wish such a Fate on a Dog, let alone the rest of our Loyal Citizens!

    • Robert Messmer

      Let’s clear up this muddy water. Hitler did indeed use gas, he was just more efficient and neater about it. Or did you not hear about the GAS chambers used to murder jews, etc with? Much more efficient than just broadcasting gas in the open and hoping it takes out your enemy and not your troops.

      Second paragraph referring to “the crazies” is slightly misleading in that Democrats in the Senate voted 58% in favor of going to war. Which by the way was not done unilaterally but with support of allies. No one is denying that President Bush acted legally in getting Congressional support and support from allies in the conduct of the war in Iraq. And this is why the paragraph is misleading, exactly who are the crazies? The President who acted legally or the Democrats who supported that action?

      American citizens are butchered in Benghazi and the President apologizes to the murdering barbarians. Once DC quit lying about what had happened, the official government response for US citizens was “What does it matter?” Now with one group of radical muslims killing another set of radical muslims with no US interests at stake, now you want to do “moral” thing.

  • Quester55

    TALK, TALK, TALK, Bitch, Bitch, Talk, Talk, Talk TALK!!!!
    Besides myself, Just how many others will agree, That We’ve Talked & Bitched Enough & That it’s High time Someone Take Action & REMOVE our D.C. Problem, once & for all, JUST like the FRENCH did during their Revolution!!
    Now those Peasants, Knew how to GET A HEAD !!!