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The U.S. Government Wants To Take You Down With It

April 1, 2011 by  

The U.S. Government Wants To Take You Down With It

Have you ever wondered why the State of the Union speech involves so much pomp and posing?

You don’t have to be an astute political analyst to realize the whole charade is propaganda designed to make people feel good about the government. But why bother?

Why risk embarrassing yourself on Jon Stewart’s "Daily Show" program by saying something stupid… or something that’s exactly the opposite of what you promised last year?

For example, in 2009, President Barack Obama said, "Done right, earmarks have given legislators the opportunity to direct Federal money to worthy projects that benefit people in their districts and that’s why I’ve opposed their outright elimination."

But this year, the same President, standing in the very same room, talking to essentially the same audience, said exactly the opposite. He was grandstanding to the new political mood and scolded the assembled lawmakers. He issued a "warning" that he would veto any bill that contained so much as a single earmark.

What a phony. What a liar. Why go on national TV and prove it? 

If Obama doesn’t want to, who’s going to force him? His government is the world’s only superpower, with troops in more than 100 countries. It listens to every phone call that’s dialed. It reads every email that’s sent. It watches every road. It looks at every financial transaction.

Our government is so powerful it can borrow 40 cents of every dollar it spends while demanding the rest of the world use its paper money. Its own courts are afraid of ruling against it, to the point of ignoring the plain language of its own Constitution.

So… why bother with this charade?

The most important element to a stable society is the idea (the lie, mostly) that the government is legitimate. Government is violence and coercion. Government is force. And for that force to be tolerated by millions, it must appear to be legitimate.

Any information or argument that the government is corrupt or inept is dangerous because it threatens its legitimacy. That’s why there’s such a tremendous fight over the obvious corruption between state employee unions and elected officials. That’s why no one wants to explain to the American people that our Federal government is bankrupt. We’re printing money because it’s better to steal from our creditors than admit our government is inept.

And that’s why the State of the Union is such a spectacle. See The State in all its glory…

But remember this: Our State, as powerful as it is, relies on an assumption that’s made collectively by millions of Americans.

We must believe the people we saw on TV listening to the President are fundamentally good and honest people. We must never come to doubt the character of those people or the process they used to gain power.

If that happens, our State, even though it’s the most powerful in the world, could quickly collapse. It is nothing without the consent of the governed. And our consent depends entirely on its legitimacy.

I believe our government is in imminent danger of losing its legitimacy. Why?

Our Federal government is bankrupt and threatening to bankrupt several generations of Americans. At some point—one that is rapidly approaching—Americans will repudiate these debts and the legitimacy of the government that incurred them.

Unaffordable foreign debts and the obvious perfidy of "quantitative easing" will soon render our currency worthless. It is a shame upon the honor of our country that we would even consider using the printing press to finance our debts… It is a high crime that we have done so. The world will long remember the way we have treated our creditors.

Over the last 50 years, the government became a socialist tool. It steals assets from responsible, hard-working citizens and distributes them to others, mainly on the basis of political patronage. At some point, these policies become self-destructive. So many people end up on the dole; the government has no way to finance their needs. We have reached that point. Today, more than half of all voters pay zero Federal income taxes.

Our aggressive foreign policy has created billions of enemies overseas while propping up regimes that would disgust most Americans—like the Saudis.

Most critically… our government is for sale. As the price of influence in Washington continues to escalate, it will become impossible to deny the patently obvious truth: Government policy is awarded to the highest bidder and our "free" elections are essentially rigged by the massive sums spent on advertising for candidates.

While I look forward to the day my fellow citizens begin to see their government as it really is, I also fear that day… for it will surely mark the beginning of an "interesting" moment in history.

The leadership of the United States is pretending this day of reckoning will never occur… that Ben Bernanke can successfully paper over these debts along with however many trillions of additional dollars are necessary. This is the absolute height of ignorance. The destruction of our currency and our country’s standing in the world’s economy is certain.

We are already at the point where our government’s debt cannot be financed at any legitimate rate of interest… and yet our leaders show zero interest in doing anything to prevent this unmitigated financial disaster.

As many of you know, I’ve produced a video about these real problems and my suggestions for dealing with them. If you haven’t watched it yet, I strongly encourage you to do so.

Regards,

Porter Stansberry

–Porter Stansberry

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Porter Stansberry

founded Stansberry & Associates Investment Research, a private publishing company based in Baltimore, Md., in 1999. His monthly newsletter, Stansberry's Investment Advisory, deals with safe value investments poised to give subscribers years of exceptional returns. Porter oversees a staff of investment analysts whose expertise ranges from value investing to insider trading to short selling. Together, Porter and his research team do exhaustive amounts of real-world, independent research. They've visited more than 200 companies in order to find the best low-risk investments in the world.

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  • s c

    Porter, I reserve the right to be disgusted with all elected prostitutes. Anyone who doesn’t understand the true significance of earmarks and how they literally rot America from within is someone who’s no better than the worthless scum who take turns at the pulpit at Washington’s First Church of the Unholy Earmark.

    • Al Sieber

      I second that sc.

      • FreedomFighter

        April 1, 2011

        What I want to know is:

        Why they don’t tell us the American people about the ChiComs busily installing a missile defense shield, using stolen American tech?

        Why they don’t tell us the American people about the ChiComs stealing American F-22 Raptor and stealth technology.

        Why they don’t tell us the American people about the ChiComs building ballistic missiles by the gross?

        Why they don’t tell us the American people about the ChiComs manipulating currency to steal jobs from Americans, and then using slave type labor to undercut American labor?

        Why they don’t tell us the American people about the ChiComs using the above stolen wealth to buy up oil, coal, metals and rare earth ores around the world as a way of dumping American dollars to end the dollar as a global currency.

        Laus Deo
        Semper Fi

        • Kate8

          FF – Are you sure the Chi-coms stole all that technology? I think our government just handed it over to them.

          What I find interesting is, given that China owns most of our national debt, and that the collateral on that debt is our government land, Obama just signed the biggest federal land grab ever. The feds now own most of the West from Ut and CO to the CA coastline, including where my own home sits.

          Is it coincidental that a couple of years ago Hillary signed over eminent domain rights in CA to the Chinese? And they’ve been snatching up a great deal of CA land?

          Does our government plan to allow China to claim half of America to pay off our debt?

          China has been chosen as the new superpower. They also want more land for their huge population. I did see a video awhile back of a Chinese official stating that they planned to take over America, and they don’t want Americans living on “their” land. They are also not averse to genocide.

          • kkflash

            I don’t think US Treasury Notes and Bonds pledge any of our land as collateral for the debt. Porter, or anyone else knowledgable, can you clear this up?

          • Kate8

            kkflash – I just read an article about our government lands being used as collateral to back up loans on the national debt, specifically to China. The Saudis, too, no doubt. Just look at the power they’ve already gained in America. Can you say AIG?

            It was a week or so ago. If I can remember where I saw it, or find it elsewhere, I’ll post it.

          • Kate8
          • Kate8

            And this, which speaks more specifically of China:

            http://www.knowthelies.com/?q=node/3778

          • Vigilant

            Mr. Stansberry says, “Government policy is awarded to the highest bidder and our “free” elections are essentially rigged by the massive sums spent on advertising for candidates.”

            And who’s responsible for casting their ballot based on media glitz, name recognition and bandwagon effect? Who bases their vote on “what’s in it for me?” or because their parents are/were of a particular party affiliation? Or because a candidate is black/white/female/male? Or because some college professor or the media fawns over a particular candidate?

            The indolent, dumbed down, ignorant, envious and avaricious cast their votes in every election. We, the people, are responsible for the mess we are in. We were treading water while the foxes were guarding the chicken house, and now, not only are the chickens gone, the house is burning down.

      • http://deleted Claire

        Politicians will never get rid of earmarks, or lobbyists.

    • Kate8

      Porter – I’ve tried to watch that video – and I’ve seen most of it. But I have to tell you that I absolutely LOATHE those power-point presentations that everyone is doing now.

      They are painfull slow, they can’t be paused or ffwd and, after struggling to get to the end, all you find is that you have to buy something to get to the punchline.

      • kkflash

        Ditto.

      • Ellen1

        I’ve complained about those “presentations” for those very reasons and the response is silence. I will not watch these things; I think they’re ridiculous……can’t stop, ff, pause, or any other action during these insufferably long treatises.

        • http://DNA Buddy

          I complained and I received an answer. Just go to the delete button. You will be asked if you really want to leave this page — then just cancel your request and magically the screen by screen presentation becomes text which you can now control.

          Enjoy the next presentation with your new level of contol.

      • PMS

        Exactly! That’s why I quit responding to anything like that. I was going broke buying all that stuff.

    • pete

      s c,

      I think Porter is getting worried that his financial predictions won’t come true. He just mention some reasons why a total apocalyptic collapse might not happen…

      Anyhow, the official yearly GDP of the USA is above 10 trillion dollars. That’s just the tip of the iceberg. Most of the iceberg is under the water, so I’m guessing the USA’s “underground economy” or “the black market” – a bastion of total competition – is probably in the neighbourhood of 40 trillion dollars a year …

      • Vigilant

        pete,

        Please see http://wsjclassroom.com/archive/05apr/econ_underground.htm

        To quote, “The best guess as to the size of the output of this shadow economy is about $970 billion, or nearly 9% that of the real economy. It could soon pass $1 trillion.”

        Certainly it’s a problem, and a growing one at that, but let’s be a little more accurate in our estimates.

        • pete

          Vigilant,

          Most of an iceberg is underwater, that’s the same as the US economy ! I don’t look at it as a “problem”, why would the underground (or “underwater” as in the iceberg example) be a problem ?

          I’m going to that hyperlink you recommended. I’ll check it out. I’m just wondering how someone conditioned to seeing only the tip of the iceberg would know how to quantify what’s under the water …

  • Andy in Idaho

    Mr. Stansberry,
    Your article must have come out of some long lost archive. The State of the Union Addres was back in January. Tomorrow marks the beginning of April.

    • Larry

      I think he is merely pointing out the art of rhetoric, flip-flop, soft shoe tap dance … that is very evident in his words … not his actions.

    • Aland

      No, today is April Fools day and as such the discussion is about the fool who .. oh, NVM, bad joke — We’re not supposed to call people names or be derogatory.

  • Charles

    Heartbroken over the direction this White House and others with money, and power gained from that money, are trying to slide America off the foundation upon which it was founded and built. May the G_d of heaven yet help us.

    • http://MSN.com Elena T

      I believe Donald Trump will return our country back to a normal life and remove a big government.

      • Robert S

        Donald Trump is an elitist. He doesn’t care about the ittle guy. People still believe all the BS that comes out of their mouths.

      • DaveH

        Donald Trump is a Big-Government-loving sycophant. He would certainly run things better than Obama, but we don’t need people who will run things better. We need people who will get out of the way of the American people, so that we can return to prosperity. We need a Government that is 1/3 the size that it is currently.
        There is only one Political Party with the courage and principles to accomplish that task – The Libertarian Party. But first we need to wake our friends and relatives to the reality that our forefathers knew several hundred years ago — Big Government is the Problem, Not the Solution.
        http://libertarianparty.org/platform

        • (WIA) Wild Indian in Action

          DaveH, ALL political parties are Parasites, just like Unions.

          • Ellen1

            Then are you calling for anarchy?

          • DaveH

            Anarchy is a manipulative word meant to silence those who advocate Limited Government.
            Too much Government is chaos. Just look at some of the third world countries for evidence of that.

          • JC

            Ellen1 says:
            April 2, 2011 at 1:12 pm
            Then are you calling for anarchy?
            _________________________________________________________________

            Partially true DaveH. Mostly though, I don’t think they have a clue what the tenets of Libartarianism are, let alone having even the smallest clue of what a Constitutional Republic is or that our ancestors fought to give us one.

            They’re operating from a position of complete ignorance and using political speech to try and somehow seem intelligent.

            But it doesn’t work on anyone who isn’t at least as ignorant.

        • Conservative United

          Ronald Reagan stated that “If you are looking to gov’t to solve your problems, Don’t, Government is the problem”

          And this problem is many times worse than when he said that back in 1981.

      • Kate8

        It is part of the communist corporatist gameplan to raise up a “hero of the people”, who is actually controlled by them.

        Could Trump be such a person?

        I just have a hard time believing he’s for real. No one else dares to buck the current administration to the point he does, nor dares to openly quesion O’s legitimacy.

        I have to wonder if this, too, is contrived. These days, given the degree and enormity of deception, it’s difficult to believe he’d get away with what he says.

        Plus, he voted for O. That, in itself, is disturbing. If he were for real, that would be a clear sign that he lacks discernment, and that is hard to imagine since he is the money-mogul that he is.

        • kkflash

          It is also part of biblical prophecy (Revelation) that a “hero” of the people shall arise. The bible calls him the Antichrist. Personally, I think its Obama, not Trump.

          • Kate8

            kkflash – The elites raise up many “heros” for us. Right now many people are just

            looking for someone who can beat Obama.

            I don’t know if Obama’s the antichrist. He certainly fits much of the criteria, but only time will tell.

            Ron and Rand Paul appear to be heros, too. I wholeheartedly hope that they are as sincere as they appear to be, because they seem to be as close to the real deal as we can get these days. They are allowed to draw an increasing following, but sometimes heros are not part of the agenda, but used to draw out the “opposition”.

            All we can do is be as discerning as we can and hope for the best.

            BTW, some people who study Bible codes say that Obama will prevail in 2012. Whether it’s by election or by a declaration of martial law remains to be seen.

          • Vigilant

            Two reasons why we should be skeptical of the Bible Codes:

            (1) Researchers applied the same methodology to “Moby Dick” and came up with valid predictions as well.

            (2) Even the Bible code scholars don’t say the revealed codes are written-in-stone prophecies, but rather possibilities and outcomes which depend on chains of events.

            At any rate, the concept of pre-ordained outcomes dashes all considerations of free will, a mainstay of Christianity. Obama may be re-elected or not.

          • Cawmun Cents

            Two reasons why you should be skeptical about Biblical codes.1.They are a fabrication of elitist academics that wish to discredit actual prophetic occurences.2.That is what you get from watching the history channel.Obama is not the anti-christ.He does not fit the prophecy,and does not have enough worldly sway to be the anti-christ.Anyone that says this obviously hasnt read the Bible.Either that or they have an eisegesical problem with their insinuation.Dont interpret what is written in books with your own ideas,rather read what is said and understand it for what it actually says.Then you wont be falsely accusing someone of being something they clearly are not.

          • Kate8

            Vigilant and CC – There are many now looking at Bible Codes, some more credible than others. Like with anything, the Codes are being used for deceptive purposes. There are also differing methods of deciphering them.

            There are those in high places who are looking at Bible codes to see into the future, to plan their strategies.

            I do question Michael Drosnin’s work on the codes, as he appears to have somewhat of a leftist agenda. There are other, much more complex, deciphering methods, and I haven’t really looked into that particular subject.

            Scripture does tell us that things are being revealed in this time that could not previously be known. This is, in large part, due to the advent of computers, which can do things the human mind alone cannot, like decipher codes. Of course, this is also dependent upon the method being programmed, but some of the work is impressive.

            If we are determined to stick to what has been determined from times past, disregarding everything coming now to the forefront as false, I believe that we will miss things God intends for us to now understand. The main thing is to be discerning and cautious, but also to keep our minds (and hearts) open. God still speaks, and we don’t want to miss it.

            We cannot dismiss the possibility that O could remain in office indefinitely, should TPTB succeed in staging a false-flag mega-event and our current system become suspended. This DOES appear to be the plan, by their own admission. The only “(im)moral code they hold to is that they always tell us of their plans in advance.

        • sherri ww

          For Heavens sake,what are people thinking? D.Trump has run several of his OWN businesses into Bankruptcy.Would really want him running the United States-NOT! He’s a nice enough guy,I guess,but it takes a LOT more smarts than most of these people,who are talking! about running for President,have Between all of them!

          • Cawmun Cents

            The point is,that unlike the liberal academics who are lawyered up in Ivy League splendor,Mr. Trump has actually worked in the field of endeavor necessary to change financial situations.Businesses may prosper or fail,but the idea is that the person who brings them to fruition or ruin is not devastated personally,and still has ammased a fortune of repute.

          • Kate8

            CC – Good point, and true enough.

            Liberals, however, have nothing but disdain for those who prosper in business. They prefer those who make their billions off the backs of the taxpayer.

          • JC

            sherri ww says:
            April 2, 2011 at 12:59 am
            For Heavens sake,what are people thinking? D.Trump has run several of his OWN businesses into Bankruptcy.Would really want him running the United States-NOT!
            _____________________________________________________________

            Surely you’re not suggesting a “community organizer” from Kenya is “more” qualified? hahahahaha That’s just too funny. :)

      • Dan az

        What we need to do is cut the government in half for starters and then go through with a fine tooth comb and delete the rest.This site ill leave shows that there are more people working for the guv than manufacturing,construction, farming, fishing, forestry, mining and utilities combined. Read the numbers people the trillion dollar deficit is just for their wages.They produce nothing.

        • Dan az
        • sherri ww

          Don az-What I really want to know.is who the devil do you think will run this country,with the government gone? Unless you want to live in a 3rd world country where there is Nothing,no order to anything,we probably best keep a government in charge,I should think! And,the other thing I can’t figure out,is why people who are SO unhappy with our country,do not pack up and move to any one of a dozen countries where everything is Already in a total out-of-control mess,if that’s the way they want to live?Why try to take the U.S.down that path?Some of us are perfectly happy having a land with some law and order to it.

          • Vigilant

            Who said ANYTHING about removing the government? Downsizing and removing are two very different things.

          • DaveH

            Sorry, Sherri, that logic won’t work here. The third world countries are third world countries as a result of Big Government, not an absence of Big Government. See here for proof. Just pick the country links to get a synopsis of their ranking. Big Government is the Problem, Not the Solution:
            http://heritage.org/index/Ranking

          • DaveH

            And Sherri, if you really want to know “who the devil do you think will run this country,with the government gone?”, then read this Free online book:
            http://mises.org/books/newliberty.pdf

            Besides, I haven’t seen anybody on this site advocating a complete absence of Government.
            Government should exist only to protect people from the force of others. Instead they have evolved into the Forcers.

            And Sherri, the Progressives are the newcomers to this country. You people leave.

          • http://DNA Buddy

            Doing away with government is appealing. However, the prpblem is not the government. It’s simply the size of “our” super sized country.

            We have gotten this far mostly on state by state rules and regulations. There is no need for our political institutions to be taken over by small groups of people with little concept of regional culture and economies.

            We didn’t give our political entities away – the federals just took them and got away with the theft. Now, we are a big super duper power which our big dealers are progressing us (collectively) over the cliff. Can you imagine the benefits we could enjoy if the majority of our taxes were spent on improvements regionally rather than on world domination?!

          • Dan az

            Sherri
            Federal spending impacts all of the founding principles. National defense is one of the legitimate functions of the federal government, with Congress and the President given explicit authority to protect national security. That’s the good news. The bad news is that the vast majority of the federal budget is used for purposes and in ways that compromise America’s other founding principles.

            A bloated federal budget obviously is inconsistent with the principle of limited government. Individual liberty also is undermined by big government, particularly since citizens so often are coerced into participating in inefficient and ineffective programs. Big government also undermines free enterprise since so many resources get diverted from the productive sector of the economy and then get misallocated by special interest politics. Last but not least, many government programs sap individual responsibility by luring people into dependency.

          • Dan az

            Sherri
            There are some good sites to start reading,just to name a few.
            Several think tanks have good studies and reports on wasteful spending. The Cato Institute and Heritage Foundation probably have the most material, and both organizations are large enough to cover just about all types of spending. The National Taxpayers Union has some excellent material on the cost of government and also keeps score on the fiscal burden of proposed legislation. Citizens Against Government Waste is the go-to group for information about pork-barrel spending. Americans for Tax Reform produces Cost of Government Day.
            Then check out this site.
            http://libertarianparty.org/platform

          • JC

            sherri ww says:
            April 2, 2011 at 1:18 am
            Don az-What I really want to know.is who the devil do you think will run this country,with the government gone? Unless you want to live in a 3rd world country where there is Nothing,no order
            ___________________________________________________________

            Typical Liberal over reaction with a layer of complete ignorance on top. You can go for your system of “man made” law & order sherri…I’d prefer a Justice System. Which is what we had until your precious government got a hold of it. Now it’s just a bunch of legalists using the law to poison us with socialism. I’ll pass thanks.
            Restore the Republic. Restore our Justice System.

  • http://aol.com sean murrey

    greed that what is this old boy is hard to sink i hope this govenment goes without me.

  • http://Verizon Bud G.

    Porter Stansberry is simply pointing out the facts of what past administrations to include this one, Congress and the Federal Reserve have done and how they have destroyed our economy.

    It reminds me of a cartoon in a newspaper where Frank and Ernest are standing in front of a bank and one says “I can’t understand why the bank says I have no money when I have plenty of checks left”. Equate this with the Federal Reserve printing money with borrowed money and bailing out banks to include those in other countries with borrowed money. Congress bailing out corporations with your money when they should have let them declare bankruptcy or cease to exist. General Motors is a good example where they protected the greedy unions who put themselves in this position with pay and benefits, Many will say, we had to do it because all those people will have lost their retirement. Weren’t they the one who created the problem? When you have more going out than coming in, you have to raise costs or taxes to remain solvent and it is a continuous cycle of greed and inflation.

    • Eddie47d

      I would have liked your comments except you went into your union bashing mode. The righties must have that on automatic pilot without a care in the world in how executives have used and abused their corporate status. You tear down your neighbors while gloating over the wealthy in their gated compounds and porked out bank accounts. Some of you say we must look up to them and not question their pompous lifestyles. “They earned their money” and union folks are stealing from you. I really don’t believe that you all care about America. Either that or you are one of those wealthy who want to move in with those kingly powers. Then build a bigger moat to keep out the “low life’s”. Your daily attacks on the majority of working stiffs have shown no mercy and the lines have been drawn.You’ve taken this anti-union lynching far beyond the pale because they might make a few extra bucks. Yet in the next breath you gloat over and admire the absorbent salaries and pensions of our tycoons. They of coarse deserve their gains from market manipulations as our economy and middle class shrinks.

      • kkflash

        Eddie47d, the union-bashing has just begun, as unions are greatly responsible for the financial mess we find ourselves in. Unions have made US manufacturing uncompetitive with the rest of the world, and in so doing are destroying the very industries that pay their exorbitant (not “absorbent”) salaries. Yes, it’s the ridiculous pay and benefits of the relatively unskilled union workers that are out of line, not the salaries of the executives who run America’s industry, nor the entrepreneurs who create those industries through their ingenuity,expertise and courage. Unions’ zombielike voting block is largely responsible for electing economic morons to run our country who can’t balance a budget. By blindly supporting the wealth redistribution from those who create the wealth to those who spend it, unions are helping bring down the US government just as they bankrupted General Motors.

        • Thamera

          Exactly kkflash. And Eddie you could not be more wrong in your assessment of conservatives. We do not “gloat” over the wealthy or even wish to be considered among their ranks. What we see is the ultimate hypocrisy and danger of the unions that are seeking power, not what is in the best interest of you or I. Do you expect anyone to believe that your unmitigated faith in the unions that you seem to revere are not just as corrupt or wealthy as the very corporations that you demonize? Do you not see the hypocrisy?

          • Eddie47d

            I have stated before that unions have to carry the load also when the economy is in a bind. I also expect the same from CEO’s which I haven’t seen. Union and private wages are stagnant while CEO pay has gone up 3-7% while few jobs are being produced. The math isn’t adding up for those exorbitant salaries.I would say they are about 300% too high.That’s a high hurdle to overcome and I doubt if they are willing to take such a big hit to help the USA stabilize.They need to set the example or it’s all meaningless. It’s fine with me if union wages are reduced or if they pay more towards their benefits.Maybe they will have to be the ones to set that example for the corporate world certainly isn’t.kkflash didn’t mention the $10 million that GM’s top executive made while the workers brought in $80 thousand and maybe $120 thousand with all benefits.I say GM failed because of poor management decisions and years of making poor quality cars. Maybe those workers made too much and maybe they didn’t and maybe GM’s CEO salaries is chicken feed compared to other CEO’s. What is obvious is that the whole system is out of balance. So yes we will be arguing about this for a long time to come.

          • DaveH

            You can state all you want, Eddie, that the Unions carry the load. But it just isn’t true.
            It seems odd to me that you obviously respect property rights when it comes to your own money, as evidenced by your Union advocacy. Because without property right it would do no good for you to worry about higher wages, as somebody would just take it from you. Yet, you disrespect the property rights of company owners. It is their money. Get it, Eddie? Their money. They can pay their CEO’s or other company people anything they want. It is none of your business.
            They have given up earthly pleasures to educate themselves, work long hours, and take personal and financial risks to accumulate their wealth. You could do the same with your time and money, Eddie, if you want to commit to the sacrifice and risk. Instead you choose the Class Envy route. Of course, it’s much easier than the former.

        • DaveH

          Well stated, kkflash. You need to post more often.

          • Marty S.

            Eddie, even if the all top executives gave their salaries back it would make little difference. The unionized government employees and their bloated salaries, bennies and just plain out of control government interference and spending has been sucking the life out of this country for decades. I’m not necessarily against the idea of a well behaved union in a manufacturing plant for the purpose of preventing abuse by the employer but don’t force me to join and lets not make the place unable to compete. When it comes to government unionization well that is Communism’s first cousin. Even Prez Roosevelt a big time Progressive liberal stated that would be a very bad idea and we should refrain from it as a country.

        • JC

          Unions’ zombielike voting block is largely responsible for electing economic morons to run our country who can’t balance a budget. By blindly supporting the wealth redistribution from those who create the wealth to those who spend it, unions are helping bring down the US government just as they bankrupted General Motors.
          —————————————————————–

          Buy that man a Scotch!

          • JC

            That was in reference to the entirely accurate observation of kkflash.

        • http://www.fairtaxnation.com tsaray

          KKFLSH: Don’t leave out the federal income tax system which has destroyed our ability to be compete. go to: http://www.fairtax.org

          • kkflash

            Yes, let’s not overlook the fact that our corporate tax is among the highest in the world, causing businesses with the means to do so, to move their operations to countries where they pay less. We lose our businesses and jobs to other countries, and even with the high tax rate we collect less tax than those other countries, because 50% of nothing is still nothing.

          • http://?? Joe H.

            To see evidence of how corporate tax is ruining the system, one only has to look to Chicago where Catapiller is considering leaving and relocating to another country!!! One of the biggest, if not THE biggest employers in the Chicago area. God please help us!!

          • http://deleted Claire

            JoeH–My daughter works for Caterpillar in Decatur, IL. She is worried. If Caterpillar leaves, it will be disastrous. Again, Illinois residents have to pony up for the mismanagement of the politicians. As everyone knows, our taxes were increased. And for what? The bills still will not get paid, because the elected politicians make sure their pet agendas receive the monies first. We have over 2,000 bridges that are in need of repair. Do they care? Heck no. Now we have a Republican Rino, a Democratic know-nothing (that Durbin is supporting) running for mayor. I will vote for the Independent. The Republican party here in town tried to “pay him” for NOT running. The sad thing is–the Rino will be elected. So, more of the same crap will continue.

          • Kate8

            Claire – I feel for ya. Illinois, corruption-wise, is probably on a pretty close par with California.

            We’re being bled dry here, too. Businesses have been fleeing for the past few years as regulations get more onerous. Now we’ve got that stupid global-warming legislation, the implementation of Agenda 21 (which is raising further the price of fuel and water) and chasing out what few businesses we have left, not to mention the squashing of what FREEDOM we had left.

            What we have now is a welfare state, and a very large population of (entitlement-minded) illegal aliens and “legal” immigrants from the third-world. This, along with the few actual US citizens who remain, has devastated our state.

            We have become a sad commentary on the quality of people who dare to run for office. They can only survive by going along to get along, if they ever had good intentions to start with. A well-placed (and well-timed) shooting (AZ) has, no doubt, brought any who had a bit of idealism into the corporatist fold. Gabby Giffords and Judge Roll, cases in point.

            BTW, I hear that Gabby is making an astounding recovery. We’ll see if her attitude changes when she resumes office (she was collaborating with Judge Roll to reinstitute adherence to the Constitution).

            It’s going to take a huge change in our collective mindset, and a whole lot of help from On High, to turn this mess around.

      • DaveH

        Of course we don’t condone those crony capitalists who, with the aid and force of government, have been unfairly protected from competition. But Unions are one of those groups who have been unfairly protected. We need to get back to a level playing field, where private property is respected, and companies (and Unions) have to please the consumers to succeed, instead of some bought-and-paid-for politicians.
        I don’t know that any of us has said “we must look up to them and not question their pompous lifestyles”. But we must respect that it is their money and not ours to take, no matter how big our gang. To do otherwise would be to condone theft (lord knows many of us already do). If we don’t respect the property of others, then the result will inevitably be a Free-for-All and its resulting Chaos.
        Caring for America has nothing to do with not allowing Union Thugs to coercively interfere with the property and free commerce of other people.
        And Eddie, we’re not attacking the “working stiffs”. Those people don’t need Unions. They succeed by their own efforts. They form voluntary contracts with their employers, and they recognize that their employers are providing an opportunity for them to earn a living. If they didn’t like that, and we had Free Markets, they could easily pool their money with like-minded people to create their own companies.
        You are driven by Class Envy, Eddie. We aren’t.

        • Thamera

          well said DaveH and I could be wrong, but I am pretty sure that you and others have expressed the same sentiments over and over again, yet Eddie and others continue to insist otherwise; their contempt for conservatives really seems to cloud their judgment.

          • DaveH

            I think Eddie’s judgement is purposely clouded by self-interest.

          • Eddie47d

            Your contempt for unions seems to be clouding your judgement also.Take the union “envy” out of your eye and I’ll try to take the corporate “envy” out of my eye. You can take me to task and I’ll keep taking conservatives to task. When I think you are mistaken I will continue to say so.

          • kkflash

            Eddie47d, I thought from your post a while ago you were starting to get, but I see you’ve reverted to defending your indefensible position. Try to understand this. We are now in a global economy with respect to nearly everything that mankind produces. The only thing that prevents goods from being produced where they can be done at the least cost is the transportation expense to get those goods back to the markets where they are sold. Labor, whether you like it or not, is a commodity whose value is set by supply and demand, as all prices should be in a free market. Unions violate the free market laws by trying to establish a higher price for labor than what supply and demand forces would dictate. They do this primarily by threats, coercion, and the blackmail of collective work stoppage. If businesses conspire to fix prices at higher than what they deserve, we penalize them under the anti-trust laws. But, if labor does the same thing, we call it collective bargaining. Until we get rid of this double standard and end the union welfare program, other countries will continue to get the business growth and the jobs.

          • Kate8

            Why do these threads invariably turn into food-fights with eddie, or one of the other liberal trolls?

            It’s starting to get tedious.

          • kkflash

            Kate8, that’s how we try to teach them right from wrong. It’s worth our time if we get just one to understand the error of their ways.

          • DaveH

            Excellent commentary, Flash.
            But, as far as Eddie goes, you just haven’t been around long enough. He’s incorrigible.

          • Kate8

            kkflash – The liberals like eddie think they are here to change OUR thinking.

            Their brains are permanently impaired. While I can appreciate your reasoning, you will, as DaveH said, soon learn that bantering with eddie et al is a waste of time.

            It might be fun for awhile, but it’s always the same old, same old.

      • (WIA) Wild Indian in Action

        [offensive post removed]

        • kkflash

          WIA, let’s please keep it civil, OK?

      • sherri ww

        Eddie 47:finally,some sensibile talk! I believe that a lot of people really DO think that,if they go along with making these rich even richer,while they,the middle class,bows to them,that one day it will wear off on them and they will be rich too,and living. In those”gated communities”.Of course that will Never come true and in the meantime they are helping these uber-rich reduce our whole standard of living to the point there will be ONLY very poor or very rich,and the kids&grandkids of today will have Zero chance for any decent life.It is truly AMAZINGto see these folks vote against their;and their children’s best interest

        • DaveH

          Don’t confuse sensible with Hoping and Dreaming, Sherri.
          I would sure like to know what it is that corporations do to make you dislike them so? I know that I have never been forced by a corporation to buy their products. I also know that I have often been forced by Government to buy their products. Liberals express their desire often to force me to do things their way (through their bully boys in Big Government). So who are the bad guys here? There’s no doubt in my mind — the pushy, thieving Liberals/Progressives.

          • Marty S.

            Actually Dave we are being forced to buy something from the government – Obamacare.

          • Marty S.

            Sorry Dave I misread your post.

            Peace-out.

        • DaveH

          And you talk about our children? While you Liberals (I’m counting the Bush types also as Liberals) doom our children to an immense debt? A debt from expenditures that they didn’t even have the chance to vote on?
          History has shown repeatedly what Socialism does to countries’ economies, and it isn’t pretty. You Sherri, and your cohorts, are dooming our children (and yours).

  • homeboy

    like i’ve said before the partys over . game set match. bye bye so long fare well america. now the only choice you have left is GOD. you remember him right. you came from him . he gave you life. now all you do is complain. he gives you many second chances. are you willing to give him one.

  • Michael J.

    Under the gun with almost daily world wide catastrophies, some of which he has inherited, I think he is doing the best any Christian American could be expected to do. Those who besiege him on his birth origin and religeous faith do so for racial reasons. All the sore losers who can’t stand the fact that a black man is president have to have something to (Jim) crow about without revealing their true disdain with an African in the White House.

    APRIL FOOLS!… APRIL FOOLS!… APRIL FOOLS!…

    Actually, I just spent an hour reading at the Daily Kos and can now understand liberal posters here. While articles there are indeed revolting, there also seems to be an underlying subcontious transmission of vile repugnance which manifests itself into an inescapable physical urge to purge. Thats why liberals posting on this site seem to explode in a plethera of projectile vomit commentary. After reading for an hour or so at Daily Kos the results are involuntary and zombie-like. So go easy on them folks, after all they are mind control victims who have lost their senses.

    BTW, Is April 1st a national holiday?
    Maybe Barry was born on April 1st?
    Come to think of it, all of Barry’s birth information sounds like fools day humor, doesn’t it?

    • meteorlady

      I must agree. I am absolutely shocked at the comments that I read on Yahoo news. These people are standing in line to go bankrupt and give all their money to the government, either that or they are standing in line trying to get all our money from the government. Either way, their views are so out there I sometimes can’t believe what I’m reading. If they come across a comment that they disagree with they insults or call names, never any intelligent and well thought out comment.

      • Michael J.

        meteorlady,
        Absolutely, like animated drones blindly marching over a cliff, both arms grasping to take us with them.

        • Eddie47d

          You may be right about “animated drones”.We do get set in our opinions and occasionally refuse to look beyond our own noses. Yep, that would be you,me and most right here. I’ve heard numerous State of the Union Addresses and most are uplifting and unbelievable at the same time. Earmarks have been around forever and most are beneficial and serve a justifiable means. They are also getting out of hand and throw budgets out of whack.We also have socialism for the rich and the poor and folks on both sides defending their turf without realizing the outcome. I know I’m guilty of defending some pork and shocked at others (aren’t we all).Washington has become one big ATM machine and we love making withdrawals (if it benefits us). I’ve even voted for politicians who advocated for more spending. I knew it was needed but also knew we couldn’t afford it. Some in the Tea Party want to use shock therapy to get the spending under control and a few on the left want even more spending. It’s enough to make a person dizzy! I know,I know there is a wee bit of self inflicted dizziness going on. Do we screw the rich out of the “portion” they did earn or dump on the poor and take away the “portion” they didn’t earn.

          • Thamera

            This is a re-post but I think it is fitting when you talk about “shock therapy”. Have you ever had to deal with an addict Eddie? Let me give you an example(re-post from another forum): On a most personal level, I learned that lesson (that you can’t spend or buy your way out of a problem) through my own daughter who nearly bankrupt me because of her association with the underworld of drugs and addiction. I had to finally learn to “let go” and withdraw financially. (note, financially not emotionally) I thought it would kill me. I was desperate not to have my daughter suffer and yet by continuing to supply her with “financial aide” I was only enabling her and making the situation much worse. In the end, I cut off all “financial aide” and had to let her make the decision to “sink” or “swim”. I thought it might kill me to watch her struggle and suffer. I learned the difference quite well between “enabling” and “empowering”. As a government we are no different, only I don’t think that our government knows the difference between enabling and empowering and so we as a nation continue to struggle and will eventually drown. Maybe, as a nation, “shock therapy” is in order.

          • kkflash

            Thamera, your personal example is right to the point. Though it seems cruel at the time, and is painful for us emotionally, we’re actually helping the “welfare addicts” by withdrawing our financial support. We’re forcing them to learn to take care of themselves. And just as you would have done with your daughter, we’ll still be there to save them if they try their best and fail. As a nation, we’ve just made it too easy to let the government support people instead of the other way around.

          • Eddie47d

            Thamera; Good overview for everyone.

          • Karolyn

            Speaking of “welfare addicts”, I just had a conversation with our county Social Services Director. I don’t know how it is in other states, but in SC one can only receive 24 welfare checks in a 10 year period. Also, women do not automatically get more money for new babies. However they do get more in food stamps.

          • Thamera

            Thank you kk and Eddie :)

          • http://DNA Buddy

            You indicate that we get set in our ideas (opinions). However, my belief is that is a simple evaluation. You may have heard of “ancestor memory” (instinct)?

            Each of us just follow what our fore-bearers did. Not only do we make the same mistakes our grandparent made, but we make the same mistakes our great, great, etc., grandparents did. Let’s not give ourselves the benefit of having free will to any significant extent; we’re aall products of our heritage.

            When I was much younger, I had a big argument with an older parent, with my insisting that all children are products of their environments. Now, after watching my five sons grow into manhood, I realize that children come programmed to believe (and do) things in accord with their own programming. Thus, there’s not much we can do other than teach “mechanical” skills like reading and bike riding, etc.

          • Michael J.

            Buddy,
            What if your fore-bearers were Karl Marx and Heinrich Engels?

            But seriously though, I believe people do come pre-programmed, as you say. However, this pre-programming evolves as a result of habitat conditioning. Language is a prime example.

          • Vigilant

            Buddy,

            The “Nature vs. nurture” argument has been around for a long time.

            Conservatives have generally sided with the “Nature” position while liberals inevitably are proponents of the “nurture” argument. There’s a very simple explanation for this, as follows:

            Liberals find it very convenient to deny human individuality, and with it, individual freedom. For the “behaviorists,” the brain of a newborn infant is a blank page (“tabla rasa”) upon which environmental influences write the direction of their lives. This position denies the influence of genetically inherited traits and predispositions, talents and abilities.

            Under this misguided philosophy have arisen many societal ills over time, e.g., the notion that humankind is perfectible, one of the mainstays of secular humanism. It denies the existence of soul or spirit, and seeks to completely mold the character of the individual to some human-based standard of behavior. Hence, it is embodied in a philosophy called “behaviorism.”

            The denigration of religion, especially Christianity, was necessary to the aims of these humanists, as their success was largely dependent upon denying any absolute moral authority and replacing it with a moral relativism that facilitated their desires to fob off their own socialist theories upon the public. Thus, it is no coincidence that the atheist finds a much higher comfort level amongst the leftist ideologies.

            Social engineering and the so-called “progressive” education philosophy of such men as John Dewey are the immediate extensions of this faulty belief that we can successfully create a perfect society over time by merely adjusting environmental influences on the individual.

            It’s also no coincidence that progressive theories about behaviorism came into vogue at the same time that socialism began to gain a foothold in the American way of thinking.

            This denial of genetic predisposition and the existence of a soul, posits that if you throw enough money at any problem you can cure it. If we were all born truly equal, so the argument goes, then all disadvantages and roadblocks to a person’s success are attributable to one thing: upbringing. Thus, the arrival of “affirmative action” and quotas on the scene, billions of dollars thrown at “education” and social welfare. The desire to regulate outcomes is a necessary extension of the totally misguided agenda of the left.

            The conservative, especially the Constitutionalist, understands fully well what the Founders understood, i.e., that the most successful and prosperous societies are those in which the government’s function is NOT to socially engineer their populaces into lock-step acceptance of some elitist’s views of social justice. On the contrary, given the inherent disparity between the competence and talents of individuals, an important government function is to PRESERVE those differences.

      • Robert S

        That’s the reason that America is done for. People can’t agree on anything anymore. If you disagree tey jump all over you. I guess it makes hem feel good.
        I’ve taken avice from Porter Stansbury and I can sleep nights knowing I havea better chance at surviving the imminent collapse than all you people bashers do.

    • JUKEBOX

      Anytime I stumble upon Obama speaking about anything, I have to keep my barf bag close, because I know he is going to read a diatribe of bovine fesces to the world. I also wonder if anyone has ever seen any other world leader do that prissy little jog up or down any kind of stairs. It makes him look like a child trying to impress people with his athletic ability. He needs to “WALK LIKE A MAN, TALK LIKE A MAN”.

      • (WIA) Wild Indian in Action

        JUKEBOX, O-BLABA, talk like a man, walk like a man, don’t hold your breath, never happen.

    • http://Verizon Bud G.

      Michael J: Don’t assume that people are racist about where President Obama was born or his policies.

      I was raised to believe you do not look down on a person due to his race or occupation. My minister father always reminded me that I wasn’t put on this earth to judge others. Everyone has some sort of prejudice whether they want to admit it or not. My best friend, a black man, died just two years ago. His daughter named her first baby after my wife because she loved and respected her so much.

      The facts are that there is no record of President Obama being born in Hawaii. That is the reason the present Governor of Hawaii can’t come up with one. An elections official in the State of Hawaii checked for his birth certificate when Obama was running for president. What he discovered was a Certification of birth but no birth certificate and national records also failed to produce same.
      Also, no record at the hospital where it was claimed he was born.
      Both his wife and his grandmother stated publicly that he was born in Kenya and suddenly muted. I am not a birther and it may be he was born in the United States but since he is not releasing any information about any part of his past, wouldn’t you question this?
      Regarding his background and his school days: Why doesn’t anyone recall knowing him in Hawaii except the Governor and Grand Parents?
      Why do the people who knew him in college say he spoke so often about Marxism and associated with those who were but all his school records and papers are not available and who paid for his education? We have a president which nobody knows anything about. Personally, I think this is very odd. We do know his father was Kenyan and his mother was a U.S. Citizen but did she become a citizen of Indonesia in order to register Obama in school there? This was required under their laws in order to attend school there. What was her status when she returned to Hawaii? We don’t know and only the State Department knows this and whether she returned as a citizen of Indonesia or as a U.S. Citizen?

      I am American Indian and I am a conservative with a very good knowledge of the governments around the world due to my intelligence background with the U.S. Army. I immediately saw the indications of President Obama’s philosophy about what type of government he prefers and it isn’t capitalism. During his campaign for president, he used the words “distribution of wealth” and “National Health Care” in his speeches. These are words used in Socialist Doctrine. His cabinet is mostly Progressives which translates to Socialists. His tendency to use the United Nations regarding our internal matters lends to the belief many have that he wants to see a world government based on Socialism. If you think this is far retched, look at his connection to George Soros who has this vision. If people do not believe George Soros has a very big hand in what is happening in the White House, then they have their heads buried in the sand. Check the biographical data and funding of George Soros and you will see the connection.

      • Angel

        I have a young preacher friend who is Kenyan and lives in Kenya…he lives 192 miles from Obama’s grandma’s village as well. Guess what they all say? He was born in Kenya! Apparently they have erected signs in Nairobi, Kenya’s capitol bragging the fact that Kenya was Obama’s birthplace! It is good to have friend around the world so you can keep up on the global condition of things!

        • Marty S.

          The lame stream media let this one out of the bag the day he was elected with their brief shots of the Kenyan locals whoop-in it up upon hearing the new one of their own was voted in as prez of the U.S.

      • Michael J.

        Bud G.
        I’m convinced. (really)
        Actually Bud, what you read above was an attempt at April fool’s day humor. I believe Obama is an illegal alien entrusted with our nations national security secrets. I told everyone who would listen that he was out to destroy our beloved country even before he was wrongly elected.

    • Dale on the left coast

      “Those who besiege him on his birth origin and religeous faith do so for racial reasons”
      Absolute NONSENSE Michael . . . . the US Constitution requires a Presidential Candidate to PROVE he is a “Natural Born Citizen” . . . McLaim did it . . . but its racist to expect the “won” to do the same.
      Religion has no “Race” . . . another confused idea. There are muzzies of every race and creed on the planet.

      • Michael J.

        Dale on the left coast,
        With due respect, please re-read my post.
        For those who have further doubt, here is a post of mine from about a month ago:

        STOP!!!!! calling him president. In fact stop everything until the question of eligibility has been answered. Forget about illegal aliens crossing our borders illegaly, we can’t even prevent them from crossing The White House lawn apparently. Healthcare reform is insignificant, alternative fuels mean nothing compared to the fact that we know not who is actually planted in The Oval Office. This is INSANE!!!! Without legitimate birth documents, how can we know where his allegiances spring from? If he has lied about something as basic and fundamental as his place of birth, how can anything else he has said or claimed, be believed?

        It’s not just about Obama anymore, but all others who have sworn off on his ligitimacy, too many heads would roll. This unprecedented event has reached new heights in political deceit that will turn this country inside out if ever owned up to. We are traversing unmapped territory here with the thought of our most intimate national security secrets having been entrusted to an illegal alien. What will Nancy Pelosi’s excuse be? How will the Supreme Court explain? If ever the truth is unfurled it will make by comparison, Watergate look like a fibb told by an eight year old child.

        Not only will every document signed by the imposter be null and void, but the consequences there of will be forever questioned and foister upon us a nation wide paralysis which in the interim will leave our country vulnerable to outside attack during the anarchy that ensues.

        • kkflash

          The question of Obama’s legitimate citizenship has been blown off by him and his supporters as beneath discussion, yet the question lingers. If it’s such a trivial matter, why doesn’t simply produce the proof the public desires and be done with it? I believe it’s the biggest political lie ever told, and would tear the global political fabric from top to bottom if the truth were uncovered.

          • Kate8

            kkflash – Part of the plan to destroy America includes causing the American people to feel disenfranchised, or ‘dissed’ in general. Causing people to utterly distrust their government hastens their goal.

            I believe that is what the Obama legitimacy issue is about. This is a most fundamental part of our Constitution, that government officials are accountable to We the People. Yet, We the People are being told that we have ‘no standing’, and if there is any ‘harm’, at least we are all ‘harmed’ equally. WTH?

            It is an outrage that Obama gets away with this treachery. If the Constitution still stood, he would not be in office.

            What does that tell you?

        • sherri ww

          Micheal J. Have you really listened to what you are saying?PLEASE tell me its an April Fools joke,and that you do NOT actually believe that stuff! President O.is a fine man and really,I don’t give one damn WHERE he was born! Forget all that nonsense and help put our people and country back TOGETHER.Talk about insane.My Lord,all the folks worrying about that silly stuff is going to pull the U.S. down,and yes,with MANY,it does have racial overtones,no matter what other excuse a person uses.The stupid part is,the President is no more Black than he is white,and Who Cares either way?COMPLETE NONSENSE! While the bad guys circle us,they HOPE we will all “watch the shiny object” Yeah,there’s a lot of bad guys and enemies out there but President Obama is NOT one of them!

          • JC

            You are a complete…and I mean “complete” idiot.
            Unions are going to save the day?
            Obama is a fine man?

            Have you compeletely lost touch with reality?
            Obama is an imposter hell bent on destroying the US.
            Unions are parasites.

            Your whole schtick is communist and you should really go find a country that suits your nanny state self interests to baby sit you for life.

          • http://?? Joe H.

            sherri ww,
            you want to believe in unions, that is your choice, just don’t expect us to follow blindly!! If you don’t care where Nobama was born, then you ARE an idiot!! The constitution has that in it to keep some nation from sending a person here to take over from within! To make sure he is a citizen and loves this country! nobummer certainly doesn’t fit that description!! He and his stupid wife do NOT love this country and if you can’t see that, then not only are you blind but deaf and dumb as well!! They both HATE this country and want to bring it down to its knees!! I don’t know about you, but I will not get on my knees for ANY MAN!! There is only one being I will and that is the LORD himself!

          • Michael J.

            sherri ww,
            With sincere honesty I advise you to read and listen to G. Edward Griffin’s interview with Yuri Bezmenov to understand not only how you have become a victim of communist subversion but also what they plan to do with you when their plans come to fruition.

            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Iz3VjoHXLA

            Break free of the mind control while you still have a chance.

          • Vigilant

            “O.is a fine man and really,I don’t give one damn WHERE he was born!”

            Typical left wing philosophy of ignoring the Constitution, the Law of the Land. Wholesale disregard of the supremacy of the Constitution is what has put us in this position of insolvency and the crushing of individual rights.

            “Forget all that nonsense and help put our people and country back TOGETHER.”

            The ideaology of Obama and the leftists is precisely counter to what you are espousing. THEY are the ones to foment class warfare and hatred of capitalism, and they are the ones who invented the “hyphenated” American, not the right.

            “Talk about insane.My Lord,all the folks worrying about that silly stuff is going to pull the U.S. down,and yes,with MANY,it does have racial overtones,no matter what other excuse a person uses.”

            Sorry, girl, the race card doesn’t work any more. It’s the last refuge of the socialist scoundrel, and you are undoubtedly one.

          • http://www.personalliberty.com/conservative-politics/flunking-liberty/?eiid&rmid=2011_03_31_PLA_%5BP11806743%5D&rrid=394279717&replytocom=402681#respond cregets

            Sherri ww, There was a documentary back in 2008 called Obsession Radcal Islam’s War Against The West…I’m writing so I can’t give you the exact chapter, it might be 7 or 8… Anyway there is an excerpt from a cleric with a comintator(taped in 1994)on the dvd, stating Islam will make the White House the Black House(Mecca)…it would seem they are well on there way…This scares me to absolute death.

    • http://www.fairtaxnation.com tsaray

      Check out http://www.hermancain.com for a smart, honest, logical, sensible person.

    • Aland

      Instead of Daily Kos try reading stuff from Venus Project and The Zeitgeist. It’s more positive .. but down-right scary the Utopian homogeneity they promote through the elimination of law (government) and morality (religion). They too are against the unrighteous acts of government, bankrupted Fed, environmental destruction and unaffordable warfare but their answer is just as scary as the “New World Order” of the UN, IMF, and WHO.

    • MNIce

      No, this day is a religious holiday for atheists. See Psalm 14:1.

  • meteorlady

    Stansbury is right, but….. he is selling a newsletter. I subscribed and wish I hadn’t. I am bombarded with junk mail. Have sent three emails trying to just stop it, but never receive even a reply. Guess I will have to go to my credit card company and deny the transaction, maybe that will get his attention.

    If you there and reading this – can you PLEASE cancel my subscription?

  • hoser

    Who listens to the State of the Union any more? It’s all a joke and propaganda. All politicians lie. Every single one. Follow the money. Buy precious metals. If you haven’t yet, you’re already behind the power curve. The dollar is dead. It’s just not “as dead” as all the other currencies.

  • http://com i41

    JUKEBOX, it just the walk he learned as a child for the yard full of chickens, scratch the dirt, fluff his feathers, mouth off what a brainless bird he really is. Just like a barnyard rooster stretching his neck and crowing even if he just dumped a pile of democrap.

  • kkflash

    Earmarks are just another form of wealth redistribution used to buy votes. As if we need another example of how the new socialist regime in America is bankrupting its taxpaying citizens: This week I assisted my 77-year old father in completing his 2010 federal income tax return. My parents are not wealthy at all, having very little savings, but Dad is energetic for his age. In 2010 he earned over $25,000 from part-time employment and also received just under $29,000 in Social Security benefits, a comfortable income for their modest lifestyle. His federal income tax refund came out to $1236, but the punchline is – he only paid in $1200. He doesn’t cheat on his 1040 by one dime, but got back $36 more than he paid in. Even he agreed that the system is broken if a person pays less than $0 income taxes with a gross income of over $50,000. Obama & the Dems want to raise taxes on the minority “rich”, who pay the vast majority of the taxes already, when we have a system that allows someone making more than the 2009 median family income ($49,777 per Wikipedia) to pay less than zero. How do we stop the political juggernaut of financial destruction that allows these socialists to maintain their power by buying the votes of the masses through wealth redistribution?

    • Jeep

      KK, you are treading on some thin ice here. Many American’s do not see their tax “rebate” as welfare. They truly believe they somehow “earned” that check. The fact is, that a progressive tax system like ours is socialist in conception and institution. However, most Americans accept this socialist slice of americana with nary a blink of the eye.

      • Thamera

        You aren’t kidding! Opinions about redistribution of wealth would change dramatically, I think, if everyone had to actually write a check to the government each year to pay their taxes like you have to do when you are self-employed. I have often wondered how families already receiving every government assistance available can still get thousands of dollars back on their taxes! I work with folks on medicaid and many of them, if not all received in excess of $3,000 back on their taxes and because of disabilities, (keep in mind their income is from SSI) got even more back, in fact close to $10,000 without paying anything in!!!

        • DaveH

          You’re right, Thamera. I have often asked people how much did they pay in taxes last year. They almost always answer “I didn’t pay, I got money back”. So I have to tell them “I didn’t ask how much you overpaid, I asked how much you paid”.
          The Politicians love that people are so clueless.

          • Aland

            Yes, but he wasn’t talking about over-payment. He was talking about people who paid negative taxes. If they didn’t file they would pay zero but because they filed they received a check for $3000 to $10000. If you didn’t know we’re using the 1040 for welfare distribution now (which allows U.S. to keep track of everyone’s money distribution.)

          • DaveH

            Aland,
            I was addressing her statement “if everyone had to actually write a check to the government each year to pay their taxes like you have to do when you are self-employed”.

          • http://?? Joe H.

            DaveH,
            I guess that 36 dollars was interest on keeping his money all year, right??? I gotta find out who his tax man is!

        • http://?? Joe H.

          Thamera,
          That’s how we shut the government down!!! We all use his accountant and NOBODY pay taxes and get a refund!!!! Think that wouldn’t shut them down???

      • kkflash

        The ice is very thin indeed under all of us right now, and it is the weight of the welfare state that is cracking it. The federal government has simply taken the responsibility that individuals must have for their own welfare, and relieved them of it. As you say, most Americans accept this blindly without a thought as to whether this is the proper province of government, or whether people are better off relinquishing personal reponsibility for their own well-being. Over time, if you take care of all a person’s needs for them, they forget how to take care of themselves. We’ve been raising generations of Americans who think they’re entitled by birth to the fruits of our nation, but aren’t willing to climb the tree to pick it.

        • Jeep

          Bravo KK, well said.

          • Thamera

            Couldn’t of said it better kk!

    • http://www.fairtaxnation.com tsaray

      Wake up folks! go to; http://www.fairtax.org — the solution you all want is waiting for you there!!!

  • DaveH

    Excellent commentary, Porter.

  • CWS

    Audit the FEDS!

  • Patriot66

    I don’t believe it’s the earmark system that is broken, it’s the system itself. The congressmen from each State are merely trying to get back, from the Federal government, what was taken from it’s citizens. What needs to be changed, is the flow of taxes (if there are to be taxes). It should flow from the States to the Federal government. This would empower the States and force the Feds to play ball with us, or we will not support them. It would encourage healthy competition on taxes, since each State would have a different tax system. The populace and talent would move towards the States with the best business models. Any federal proposals would not have earmarks from each State, and be in its pure original form. Of course, we would have to stop the Fed from borrowing fiat money from the Fed Reserve and only use what was deemed appropriate from the State contributions.

    • kkflash

      Now there’s an idea worth some comprehensive analysis! What would happen if there were a constitutional amendment proposed to take all power to tax away from the federal government and leave it only to the states? Would you vote for such an amendment? Remember, we still need a federal government to provide for the common defense, conduct international affairs etc. Some things are too far-reaching for states individually, so as much as I hate to do it, we’ll have to give the Federal government some money and power somehow. We’d need an equitable system to tax the states for their share of supporting this much smaller, limited, and less intrusive, federal government

      • MNIce

        The provision is already in the Constitution. Direct taxes (i. e., on you and me or our labors) are expressly prohibited – twice – unless they are apportioned by state in the same manner as representation in the House. The 16th Amendment was supposed to carve out a specific exemption to the prohibition on direct taxes, but Congress has abused it to create all manner of direct taxes mislabeled “taxes on income” but based on something else such as wages or even failure to have “approved” health insurance. When a child abuses others with a toy, a good parent takes it away. Likewise, we need to take away the 16th Amendment.

        Patriot66 is on the right track. Congress can levy a tax on the states and require each representative to present the check in order for the state’s delegation to be seated. This would discourage governors and legislatures from chirping (like hungry baby birds) for federal handouts to fund their feel-good mandatory charities and boondoggle construction programs.

  • LiarsMustBeDefeated

    The rich elite would like 90 percent less population world-wide. They LOVE it when we think it is all about right/left, liberal/conservative, etc. The government is ALREADY illigitimate, Porter. That is why I agree with Andy in Idaho. Every liar and crook needs to be defeated in a civil and democratic election. It is quite obvious by now that they can NOT police themselves.

    • DaveH

      I doubt that, Defeated. The rich are generally quite well versed in economics, and they know that to lose the worker bees would hurt them also.
      If you were to say the Progressives would like 90 percent less population, I might buy that (although would still want to see proof).
      There are definitely those who think population is our problem, and they are wrong. Hong Kong belies that belief.

    • kkflash

      I believe, perhaps naively, that most politicians don’t start out as liars and crooks. They are made to become liars by the system they become a part of after their election, and by their desire to retain the power they’ve been granted by the electorate. When they get to the legislature they find no one who’ll vote for their grand ideas unless they get something in return, so the horse-trading commences. So they agree to vote for something they don’t believe in, so that something they do want gets done. In that process of compromise, their vote becomes a half-truth, which they rationalize as supporting the greater good. It’s then only a small step to the lies they tell their constituents, so they can accept special interest political campaign contributions, to help assure their re-election. This they rationalize by thinking “I can’t do any good if I don’t stay in power.” Pretty soon they can justify any lie by thinking it’s an acceptable means to the end they want. In the last stage, they are so blinded by their own power and desire to keep it, that they actually can’t tell truth from fiction. They start to believe their own lies. This is the stage Obama has reached.

      • http://www.fairtaxnation.com tsaray

        the Fair Tax bill, HR25, S13 will eliminate the stranglehold that the tax lobbyists/Oligarchy have on our legislatures, there are hundreds of thousands being paid to them yearly and some even receive over a million.
        go to; http://www.fairtax.org — log in, sign on, study, share — DO IT, time is a waisting.

        • DaveH

          Look before you leap. Note that I also dislike the Income Tax system:
          http://mises.org/daily/1814

        • kkflash

          A fairer tax system is sorely needed to be sure, and the bill you refer to goes a long way to that end, but without dramatically reducing the size of federal government and its spendthrift ways, it will do no good whatsoever. I suggest a constitutional amendment that requires a balanced annual budget, as some states have done. I also suggest a lengthy legislative session in which the Congress is forbade from passing any new laws at all – they may only repeal laws and regulations that are already on the books. Lord knows we have enough unnecessary laws to keep them busy for a long time.

          • DaveH

            I would like to see an Amendment that simply said, “No law shall be passed without a 2/3 majority of Congress”. That way only the really important Bills would be passed.

          • DaveH

            Let me add to that the requirement that all existing laws be reviewed and renewed only by that same 2/3 majority.

  • Bitter Libertarian

    “The most important element to a stable society is the idea (the lie, mostly) that the government is legitimate. Government is violence and coercion. Government is force. And for that force to be tolerated by millions, it must appear to be legitimate.”

    One of the Founders said something similar…..I say until Americans STOP worshiping the Politicians, their platforms & party BS they are doomed. The Septic Flow out of the Corrupt Big Business Media Mouth is no better or worse then the Lies of The republican & Democratic Party. NOT due to the average Americans stating party alliance, but due to the OWNERS of those establishments.

  • Rev_Robert

    I suggest that one way to return elections to the electorate is to take money out of the process. As long as there is money involved in the election of candidates, money will be the prevailing factor and only those with money themselves or access to money through others will be able to run for office and get elected. Those with money themselves will be self-serving and answer only to their own desires. Those with access to money from others will have to answer to those who provided it. In neither case are they answerable to the electorate. Of course, how you take money out of the process without also stepping on freedom of speech and freedom of the press I haven’t quite worked out.

    • kkflash

      You’ve pointed out a great idea with no easy solution. Money begets power, and power begets more money. Many people with money deserve the power it provides, and wield it for the common good. The problem is there are too many people with a lot of money who have no idea how to wield its power for the common good, and many who have no intention of doing so. Money is a good thing, but having too much of a good thing in the wrong place can make that good thing very bad. How do we provide the money to those who will do the right things with it, while still limiting their power? This is the fundamental question of government.

      • Jeep

        Great point kk, but I seem to recall that our govt is supposed to limited by some document. I heard that it clearly defines the limited role of our govt and it’s responsibilities to the people it supposedly represents. I can’t seem to recall the name of that document (as it seems to be seldom used these days), but I am sure that it is important. After all did we not have a little revolution back in 1770 something, that was primarily about money? You know, taxation or some such nonsense.

        • kkflash

          Yeah. I heard something about that too, but you just don’t see anything about it anymore in the liberal media. As I recall, it was a fairly short document, unlike the 80,000 or so pages of the current Federal Register. I do recall one thing that I heard was in it (I paraphrase): The powers not delegated to the federal government are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people. Very restrictive of federal government, don’t you think?

          • Jeep

            Yes! Very restrictive…maybe that is why our fine representatives in congress are loath to actually read it, or even reference it when thinking up new bills!

      • Jeep

        Hey, I looked it up. Apparently England was spending too much money (spending more than they were taking in) on a few wars, a new crown for the king, that kind of thing. But, the king was already wringing every pound they could get from the English citizenry. So, he decided to get more money from the colonies. After all, it was England that bailed out the America’s in the early days when things were not so good. And, since the America’s recovered and were starting to make a profit, it seems like the king figured our fore fathers could afford a few taxes (they were “rich” after all!) As it turns out our fore fathers got a little upset and decided to go another way. After a little brew-ha-ha, we delcared independence and wrote up this magnificent document called the “Constitution” that limits very specifically govt role in individual lives. Amazing, huh!

        • Thamera

          Indeed! :D

    • DaveH

      Rev,
      The incumbents love that idea. It takes lots of money to unseat incumbents. If we want incumbent entrenchment, starving campaign funding will get that for us. It’s not like campaign advertising can force intelligent people to vote for the wrong person.
      Besides, I have always been of the mind that those who are willing to put the most skin in the game are also going to be the ones who put the most thought into the process. In fact, since only 50% of us pay the Income Taxes, I don’t see why the other 50% (with no skin in the game) should even be able to vote.

      • kkflash

        I was thinking that very thing earlier, but was afraid to say it for fear of sounding unAmerican. After all, the right to vote is one of our most basic rights, isn’t it? What would happen if you had to pay some income taxes to be eligible to vote, to prove your productivity to society before you have a say in how it’s run? There was a very smart Scottish historian (I don’t want to take the time now to look up the exact reference) who said that all democracies eventually fail because the populace eventually realize they can vote themselves generous gifts from the treasury, and the government ultimately collapses from bankruptcy. This is where we are now.

        • Aland

          We could go back to the way it was originally. Only land owners received the right to vote. Let’s see.. that would eliminate all my renters.. I’m in!

        • DaveH

          There is controversy as to whether that Historian actually said those things. But it sure seems to be the case, whether he said it or not:
          http://www.lewrockwell.com/north/north484.html

      • kkflash

        What if we ran our country like a corporation, where paying taxes buys you shares, and you get to vote once for each share? Then we’d live by the Golden Rule: He who has the gold rules! Ha!

  • charlie

    Since stop spending has no meaning to the President .I suggest for every trillion he put us in outrageous debt we take one million of his personal finances .Maybe then, one could under stand you cant spend what you don’t have. It appears that the money being spending goes to out side America at the cost of the Tax payers the President voters, the friends and to his personal control of what ever! The focus needs to be in Americans and an ear to the people . Wew need our troops home . We have an internal fight here keeping our country healthy when so much has been taken away . The health care Bill that was pushed through against the peoples wishes is total abuse and a huge waste of trillions. The money that congress borrowed from the social security-medicare has to be replaced, not cut to senior as it was taken from them!
    The oil has to be a priority to Dig in USA…Obama Encourages Brazil To Drill . We should be pumping our own! What is going on, is insane! It appears Mr Obama does not care about the needs of the American people! Watch this 74 miles of pipeline and we could pump our own! The president applauds Brazil in oil and will support them . Why not us? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MlfmvwxxgH Clinton also turned it down said it would take 10 years , Well its now and we could have done it! Hidden 1,000 feet beneath the surface of the Rocky Mountains lies the largest untapped oil reserve in the world. It is more than 2 TRILLION barrels. On August 8, 2005 President Bush mandated its extraction. In three and a half years of high oil prices none has been extracted. With this mother load of oil why are we still fighting over off-shore drilling?

    They reported this stunning news: We have more oil inside our borders, than all the other proven reserves on earth.. Here are the official estimates:
    - 8-times as much oil as Saudi Arabia
    - 18-times as much oil as Iraq
    - 21-times as much oil as Kuwait
    - 22-times as much oil as Iran
    - 500-times as much oil as Yemen
    - and it’s all right here in the Western United States.
    By the way…this is all true. Check it out at the link below!!!
    GOOGLE it, or follow this link. It will blow your mind.
    http://www.usgs.gov/newsroom/article.asp?ID=1911
    Now is the Time begin the process of implementing a new governing agenda that honors our
    Constitution and reflects the Will of the People. WE are down now and Americans there is one way up … United we stand and with God as our guide.
    Don’t think ‘OPEC’ will drop its price – even with this find? Think again! It’s all about the competitive marketplace, – it has to. Think OPEC along with George Soros, just might be funding the environmentalists? We Americans are the Government and voted and hired management to act in our behalf. They have failed. 17 trillion in deficet!!!
    Get our troops home to drill not be killed… Open jobs to Americans.. Now is the time to band together. Protect our borders an build .. One way up!

  • Robert Hauser

    This is hardly anything revelationary: Henry Ford warned the public of all this clear back in the 1920s….the public bought millions of his affordable Model Ts but blithely ignored the truth he tried to give them. Count Cherep-Spiridovich said all this in his 1926 book, THE HIDDEN GOVERNMENT…and there were many others who predicted all of this such as Lawrence Dennis, Karl Elmshurst, Gerald L K Smith, Fr. Coughlin, Charles Lindbergh Sr and his aviator son both….so nothing new is being presented here. The U.S. government is nothing but a Gong Show and the people should have risen as one against it long ago when there was a chance…in a sense, they are doing it now: an estimated 68 million citizens of America have essentially given the i.r.s. the commute salute and told them where to go with their 1040s and what to do with them when they get down there….but tragically, there remains that MORON MAJORITY in this country who go from cradle to grave with their starry eyed worship and idolatry of anything that smacks of “authority”….in the same way that to this very day you still find gleeful and infatuated weirdos and zoo creatures on the streets of Frisco who remain convinced that James Jones of the People’s Temple was God. America seems to be largely composed of drooling mongoloids who delight in being knowingly stupid about nearly everything…and they VOTE. It will not bother me a bit to see them cut down by the millions in the crossfire when the shit hits the fan in this country for real and it’s everybody for himself and people get the rude awakening that survival is not a spectator sport.

    • kkflash

      The day of reckoning you’re talking about is just around the corner, but it doesn’t have to arrive before “it’s everybody for himself”. That’s the way the vast majority acts right now. Until individuals stop constantly asking “What’s in it for me”, how can we expect to make progress toward any common goals?

  • charlie

    Sorry for the above repeats Please deleat.Build America
    Charlie says:
    April 1, 2011 at 12:58 pm
    Since stop spending has no meaning to the President .I suggest for every trillion he put us in outrageous debt we take one million of his personal finances .Maybe then, one could understand you can’t spend what you don’t have. It appears that the money being spending goes to outside America at the cost of the Tax payers the President voters, the friends and to his personal control of whatever! The focus needs to be in Americans and an ear to the people. We need our troop’s home. We have an internal fight here keeping our country healthy when so much has been taken away. The health care Bill that was pushed through against the peoples wishes is total abuse and a huge waste of trillions. The money that congress borrowed from the social security-Medicare has to be replaced, not cut to senior as it was taken from them!
    The oil has to be a priority to dig in USA…Obama Encourages Brazil to Drill. We should be pumping our own! What is going on is insane! It appears Mr. Obama does not care about the needs of the American people! Watch these 74 miles of pipeline and we could pump our own! The president applauds Brazil in oil and will support them. Why not us? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MlfmvwxxgH Clinton also turned it down said it would take 10 years; well its now and we could have done it! Hidden 1,000 feet beneath the surface of the Rocky Mountains lay the largest untapped oil reserve in the world. It is more than 2 TRILLION barrels. On August 8, 2005 President Bush mandated its extraction. In three and a half years of high oil prices none has been extracted. With this mother lode of oil why are we still fighting over off-shore drilling?
    They reported this stunning news: We have more oil inside our borders, than all the other proven reserves on earth. Here are the official estimates:
    - 8-times as much oil as Saudi Arabia
    - 18-times as much oil as Iraq
    - 21-times as much oil as Kuwait
    - 22-times as much oil as Iran
    - 500-times as much oil as Yemen
    - and it’s all right here in the Western United States.
    HOW can this BE? HOW can we NOT BE extracting this? Because the environmentalists and others have blocked all efforts to help America becomes independent of foreign oil! Again, we are letting a small group of people financed by (George Soros group) dictate our lives and our economy…..WHY?
    Hidden 1,000 feet beneath the surface of the Rocky Mountains lay the largest untapped oil reserve in the world. It is more than 2 TRILLION barrels. On August 8, 2005 President Bush mandated its extraction. In three and a half years of high oil prices none has been extracted. With this mother lode of oil why are we still fighting over off-shore drilling?
    By the way…this is all true. Check it out at the link below!!!
    GOOGLE it, or follow this link. It will blow your mind.
    http://www.usgs.gov/newsroom/article.asp?ID=1911
    now is the Time begins the process of implementing a new governing agenda that honors our
    Constitution and reflects the Will of the People. WE are down now and Americans there is one way up … United we stand and with God as our guide.
    Don’t think ‘OPEC’ will drop its price – even with this find? Think again! It’s all about the competitive marketplace, – it has to. Think OPEC along with George Soros, just might be funding the environmentalists? We Americans are the Government and voted and hired management to act in our behalf. They have failed. 17 trillion in deficit!!!
    Get our troops home to drill not is killed… Open jobs to Americans… Now is the time to band together. Protect our borders and build. One way up!

  • Thamera

    “survival is not a spectator sport.” I like that. Astute and to the point, and very true.

  • http://com i41

    After watching a history channel story on Germany and its tecknology superiority at the time over USA Starting with all of Germany mandates on just private lives of out lawing smoking bans on everyone, to what foods to eat, is pretty simular to the latest food BS. Hitler was a vegatarian, was a nut job of having everything his own way or else.

  • http://charden@neo.rr.com Charles

    David H ,
    Good to hear from you again. I`ve been on another blog battling
    our old buddies jopa, bob wire,and Denniso. these three are un
    teachable.I see we have some more support. I found a way to make them
    to really stuter. Ask them, if Van Jones is a Communist? Let them
    explain the people Obama hangs his hat with.

  • Nora Smith

    “our State, even though it’s the most powerful in the world, could quickly collapse.”

    The twin towards collapsed and nobody could prevent it from happening.
    A country with so much arrogance, killing innocent in the mothers’ womb, will never have a good end. A wrong equation will not work. And America has taken God out of the equation -America was founded on Cristian roots.

  • chuckb

    charlie, one big problem is the voters in our country. i don’t hear anyone complaining about the high price of gas, when i’m out it looks like the traffic is even heavier. i don’t think many people have cut back on their driving. gas is over 4.00 pg where i live and going up, food costs are soaring, check out the walmart parking lot, you practically have to make a reservation to find a parking spot.
    last year it was reported we have a world wide glut of oil, that means all the oil companies are overstocked and what price was that oil purchased? this very day there is nothing blocking the shipping of oil. however, the commodities market is going up by the day. we hear the libyan conflict is causing the unstable market by the msm, yet it seems the rebels have plenty of oil to sell. i don’t hear of any country lacking the supply of oil. we hear too much hype such as what may happen if something else happens then the speculators take over. barry and the democrats love this, barry thinks everyone will want to own one of his electric sardine cans and in turn will save his union buddies at gm. abc news is the biggest propaganda machine in the world, the president of abc, sherwood, his sister works in barrys cabinet, does that give you a clue. barry is bringing us down with the cost of energy.

    • kkflash

      It’s plausible that BO’s administration is a willing conspirator to higher oil prices, in order force greater investment in green energy sources. I think an even more insidious plot may be afoot. Could he and his lib lapdogs intentionally be doing whatever they can to collapse the US economy in order to open the door for even more radical governmental change, say the potential rise of the Communist party?

  • chuckb

    what do you mean the rise of the communist party? it has already risen. it rose back in 1951 and has been very active, it is now called the progressive party. (democrat). check out barrys cabinet, lenin would be proud.

  • Doris

    You are so right! Anyone can pull up 45 long Term communist Goals for America and you can read how many have been fulfilled.

  • Dee

    obumma doesn’t believe we need to have any information.
    As I’ve stated before I listened to what he had to say when he was campaigning and I didn’t like it one bit.
    Wish a lot of the people who voted for him had listened and maybe we wouldn’t have this imposter in the oval office.
    God help us, if these people vote for him again. If they do, they need to have their head examined.

  • http://cmlnmb@sc.rr.com Marty

    The STATE OF THE UNION address by this person a has no creadance. He is not my President, until he can show me his Birth and school records.I can not believe that our military must stand at attention and salute this person.Where is our congress in questioning him about his birth place.Why doesn’t the F.B/I investigate him. He stands and talks to the American people and LIES to them with a smile on his face. He uses AIR FORCE ONE for his joy rides with his family and says he government business. Enough is enough (TIME TO IMPEACH)

  • hoser

    Biden heads the Middle Class Task Force who want’s to nationalize all 401K’s and retirement plans. They feel us Sheeple aren’t smart enough to save. One thing is for sure, thanx to the Federal Reserve it is hard to save because they’ve destoyed 98% of the dollar thru money printing/inflation. I remember when only one parent had to work. Nixon screwed that up by taking us off the Gold standard. Oh well, China will put us back on the Gold Standard and Uncle Sammy won’t be able to say boo about it.

    • sherri ww

      @Hoser:And they would be right!Only about one in a hundred would save enough for retiretirement,without social security!THAT’S why the president who put SS in place,all those years ago,fixed it like he did.In his words”so no fool politician can change it. Or ruin it down the line”401ks’are fine-I have one.However,most folks raising children on little money these days,would be saving much,if not for forced soc.sec. THEN your Grandparents could live on the street and eat handouts,after working hard for 50yrs,and then you could too.Paying into social security each week,for 36yrs gives me a halfway fair check each month-and youstill can’t live on it these days.But,its still the best system going,and likely always will be!

      • DaveH

        Sherri,
        You know not of what you speak. To say “Only about one in a hundred would save enough for retiretirement,without social security!” is pure Liberal conjecture.
        The truth is that people, when taken care of by others, save less, work less (thus producing less), and think less about taking care of themselves. Since people are the backbone of any economy, the result is worse economies, and worse living conditions.
        And the really ironical thing in all this is that the Great Protectors, the people who know best for the rest of us, have spent all that Social Security money. The fund is hand to mouth. They pay the money out to retirees as fast as they recieve it from current workers. There is no fund.
        Even if they did invest our money more wisely than we could have, it still is just flat out theft for one man to take another man’s money “for his own good”. Imagine if your neighbor (who for argument sake is even a very good investor) were to demand your money be turned over to him “for your own good”. Very few people would put up with that.
        Social Security has been a bad investment, an immoral investment, and an Unconstitutional investment, as the Federal Government under the powers granted to it in the Constitution, does not have the power to protect people from themselves against their wills. But then, what Liberals care about morality, or obeying the law?

  • chuckb

    don’t blame barry soetoro, blame the democratic party, they are the ones who put this fraud in the white house.

  • sherri ww

    Well,about the only fraud I see,are the ones the Republicans,and their newfound” friends”,the Tea Party,are trying to pull over on the American people! The deficit will take care of itself,as it did in the 1940s’,as soon as everyone has. A job and is paying taxes again.You know,the JOBS,JOBS,THE Repubs got Elected On?And they haven’t given Jobs a thought since the Election.FINE FOLKS,they are-probably would want to elect a few more just like them right away.HA!

    • JC

      All caught up in the left/right argument…spouting media fed propoganda and completely clueless as to the real issues…like most people. It’s people like you who are absolutely too indoctrinated in stupidity that keep this country’s collective IQ in the negative range.

      It isn’t left…it isn’t right…it’s a system so corrupt and cancerous that we have to absolutley sweep it clean and start fresh with Constitutional values. Until we do, arguing left and right is just running on an insane hamster wheel….keep running lil communist…keep running.

      • sherri ww

        @Jc-I never worry about the”right-left”business in the least.I was raised in a well-to-do Repub!lican familybut,this Republican/Teaparty stuff going on now,is NOT my Fathers’Republican party! He would be astounded and ashamed,of how they are acting today.And,NO doubt,there are some nutty Democrats in congress as well,however,for the most part,Dem’s want to look after the middle class and poor in this country,and try to preserve a decent standard of living for all,not just the very rich.These extremes of ANY Pa e rty,are going to take us all down in flames-if we let them. Repub/Dem,I don’t care-as long as they care about all of us and do things to HELP,instead of trying to tear down everything from our education system,to all our infrastruture,and the ability for regular people to make a wage they can actually live on,and raise a family on.All in the supposed”fixing the deficit”business.Well,you want to fix the deficit,then Invest in our infrastructure which would put millions of people back to work and paying taxes,and Bingo!-Deficit all solved,just how they handled the deficit back in the 30s&40s,when it was Much worse than it is today.The other thing I will keep saying,is that while we have lots of enemies,our Good President ISN’T ONE OF THEM

        • Mick

          sherri ww says:
          April 2, 2011 at 10:53 am
          @Jc-I never worry about the”right-left”business in the least.I was raised in a well-to-do Repub!lican familybut,this Republican/Teaparty stuff going on now,is NOT my Fathers’Republican party! He would be astounded and ashamed,of how they are acting today.And,NO doubt,there are some nutty Democrats in congress as well,however,for the most part,Dem’s want to look after the middle class and poor in this country,and try to preserve a decent standard of living for all,not just the very rich.These extremes of ANY Pa e rty,are going to take us all down in flames-if we let them. Repub/Dem,I don’t care-as long as they care about all of us and do things to HELP,instead of trying to tear down everything from our education system,to all our infrastruture,and the ability for regular people to make a wage they can actually live on,and raise a family on.All in the supposed”fixing the deficit”business.Well,you want to fix the deficit,then Invest in our infrastructure which would put millions of people back to work and paying taxes,and Bingo!-Deficit all solved,just how they handled the deficit back in the 30s&40s,when it was Much worse than it is today.The other thing I will keep saying,is that while we have lots of enemies,our Good President ISN’T ONE OF THEM
          >>>>>>……………..
          sherri,,,,,
          When people refer to Obama as a Good president, it makes me cringre knowing that so many have been sucked in.
          As for the 30s and 40s, you seem to forget the difference in our society’s mentality, they were willing to work hard to survive and save for rainy days, it has changed drastically since then, our society today wants instant gratification no matter the cost and that will not solve our economic problem it simply will put us in a deeper hole until we will see the day of no return.

          • http://deleted Claire

            I will give Sherri credit–she stands up for what she believes in, just like the rest of us.

          • sherri ww

            Mick.Yes,people ARE more spoiled today,however,for the most part,if you put these folks to work in a job where they can be proud and support their families,they will meet up to the task.We are still Americans,and we will work hard, if there is something to work for!And rebuilding the infrastructure before it all goes completely down(gas lines blowing up under city blocks of homes,an its 100yrs old+,for one example).To work,get paid well,have some health care,and BE ABLE to save,all while rebuilding our country,will make people PROUD,and then they will work their hearts out.Making$7.00 an hr with no way to feed yr family,pay the rent and light bill OR even buy gas to get to work,plus having no way to see a doctor if your family is ill,will always keep everyone down.SAVE?They can’t even LIVEthis way!That’s also why we MUST ALWAYS retain Soc.Security,or we’d have a Hell of a mess NOBODY could stand to see,or live in. Remember WPA WORKED Let’s rebuild,make the nation strong again and the working man(and woman)Proud.And don’t” shudder”about Obama-try thanking God for him cuz he is ALL we regular people hf got

    • Mick

      sherri ww says:
      April 2, 2011 at 3:04 am
      Well,about the only fraud I see,are the ones the Republicans,and their newfound” friends”,the Tea Party,are trying to pull over on the American people! The deficit will take care of itself,as it did in the 1940s’,as soon as everyone has. A job and is paying taxes again.You know,the JOBS,JOBS,THE Repubs got Elected On?And they haven’t given Jobs a thought since the Election.FINE FOLKS,they are-probably would want to elect a few more just like them right away.HA!
      >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
      sherri,,,

      I don’t know you and wouldn’t want to insult you but how do you figure the deficit will takes care of itself ?
      The more you spend on frivolous things the less money you have to spend on necessities.
      Our government has been spending the tax payers money like there is no to morrows for decades but this is the worse spending spree yet Get what ( To morrow is here ) and people who defend this behavior are just as responsible as the spenders just because they vote to reelect the bastards.
      On the subject of jobs, do you really think I would hire more people with the demands the democrats always make and put up with their non stop regulations, I don’t think so, I would be going broke at their rate and would have to close shop in order to survive and you seem to forget that the Republican only have the majority in the house, the Senate and the white house belong to the democrats and until this gets rectified America will keep on sinking.
      To be perfectly honest, America needs though folks ( Tougher than the Republican agenda ) in our government willing to go back to basic and stick to it, all of these talks , programs and political correctness charades will be the ruin of what many of us hold dear, OUR FREEDOM .

      • sherri ww

        Mick-all I can tell you is to read the reply I just gave to jc above.You cannot fix the deficit on the backs of the middle class and poor,while the uber-rich take 90%of everything.Eventually even those super rich wont have a country worth living in either,if you do that.The deficit was,in proportion,much worse after the depression of the 30s,and they fixed it by building the things we have to have anyway-The Hoover Dam is a good example.All those projects they SPENT money on,put the millions back to work and straightened out the country and the deficit.Right now this country needs most all of its water,gas lines,sewers,and much more,done NOW,before it all crumbles,Half our big bridges are not safe(Minn,Minnesota)and we DO need some High Spd rail in a FEW places.All these things would put every person who wanted a job back to work,make our country#1again,AND make$ for Everyone,even more for the rich,but we would have our Middle Class solidly back in place_and no country can prosper if its middle class goes down,because They are the ones who support the whole system in any 1st world nation.

        • DaveH

          So much conjecture, so little fact.
          The fact that our infrastructure is crumbling is hardly evidence that we need more Government. In fact, just the opposite. How can that be happening when our Government expeditures (as a percentage of our GDP) have doubled in the past 60 years?
          You offer much conjecture, Sherri, but you can not back it up with real life examples or references.
          Cuba was a relatively advanced country by Latin American standards until it was taken over by people who think very much like you, Sherri. Now their economy is dismal. Their average citizen earns about 1/4 of what our average citizen earns. Almost everything there is controlled by Government.
          Contrast that with Hong Kong whose Government spends less than half of what our Government spends. They are a thriving society with an unemployment rate of about 5%.

          • DaveH
          • DaveH
          • sherri ww

            Dave.I got so many” real life”examples it would make your head spin.Been there,Done it, Got the Tshirt.Lived both sides of it-rich and middle class,and believe me when I tell you,we will NEVER be anything like Cuba,well,not unless we would all listen to these nitwits spouting all this nonsense on tv,and off.Never turn the tv on.waste of time,and focuses people on nutty ideas,if they only hear the one liners these characters put out-while THEY make Millions,of course,and you starve. Another thing,do you REALLY understand that you got to. Make a quarter Million dollars a year MINIMUM,before the Republican party will take one minute of interest in you?I have lived it,and what I saw disgusted me so totally.You got$ for those guys,you’re IN,WHATEVER YOU WANT IS” Good to go”then brother! I will take. Our good,honest,family man President ANY day over that mess,let me tell you!

          • sherri ww

            Davey.One more thing I always wonder,not just about you,about everybody.Why,if so many people think this or that country is going great,doing everything right,and so on,then why are these folks not already packed,have a plane ticket and. Simply Move to whatever country they like so well? Hong Kong/would you really want to live there?

          • DaveH

            Then let’s have it, Sherri. Make my head spin. Give me some of those real life examples.

            And to your second comment, you (Liberals) are the ones who are whining that you don’t get enough. You leave. I will stay here and fight against immoral people who think they have a right to ride on the shoulders of others.

          • DaveH

            And, Sherri, I’m not a Republican. I’m a guy who believes that Congressmen should actually obey the law that they swear to obey (The Constitution). And I believe that you should get a job. Stay out of other peoples’ wallets.

          • DaveH

            I am still waiting for Sherri to make my head spin, lol.
            Rarely do we see any kind of references or other evidence for the Liberals fabricated facts, and this one claims to have so much as to make my head spin.
            You just keep hoping and dreaming, Sherri. The rest of us will stick to reality.

        • Karolyn

          South Carolina has one of the worst, if not the worst, records for crumbling bridges and dams. You ask why? REPUBLICANS and CONSERVATIVES. They’re afraid to tax the people any more. The taxes here are ridiculous compared to much of the states. I would rather pay a little more in taxes and have a decent state that have it the way it is now! And now with Nikki Haley as gov. forget South Carolina coming into the 21sr century. BTW: “Multiple media outlets reported today that Governor Nikki Haley exercised her right to appoint members of the USC Board of Trustees, replacing Darla Moore, native South Carolina multi-millionaire and generous patron of USC and its business school (which bears her name), with an attorney who contributed $4500 to her campaign. ” Blatant nepotism and a slap in the fact for Ms. Moore. As has been said all over the state Haley is just another “good ole boy” and has changed nothing as she had promised.

          • DaveH

            You should move to California. They have spent themselves into a deep hole catering to people who believe as you do, Karolyn.

          • Mick

            DaveH says:
            April 2, 2011 at 7:34 pm
            You should move to California. They have spent themselves into a deep hole catering to people who believe as you do, Karolyn.

            ????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
            You’ve said a mouth full DaveH !
            Why to the Liberals always follow the example of failure and try force us to live by the same standards versus following success which would benefit all ?

        • Mick

          sherri ww says:
          April 2, 2011 at 11:23 am
          Mick-all I can tell you is to read the reply I just gave to jc above.You cannot fix the deficit on the backs of the middle class and poor,while the uber-rich take 90%of everything.Eventually even those super rich wont have a country worth living in either,if you do that.The deficit was,in proportion,much worse after the depression of the 30s,and they fixed it by building the things we have to have anyway-The Hoover Dam is a good example.All those projects they SPENT money on,put the millions back to work and straightened out the country and the deficit.Right now this country needs most all of its water,gas lines,sewers,and much more,done NOW,before it all crumbles,Half our big bridges are not safe(Minn,Minnesota)and we DO need some High Spd rail in a FEW places.All these things would put every person who wanted a job back to work,make our country#1again,AND make$ for Everyone,even more for the rich,but we would have our Middle Class solidly back in place_and no country can prosper if its middle class goes down,because They are the ones who support the whole system in any 1st world nation.

          >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>.

          >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>.
          sherri ,,You are still under the impression the democrats are for the poor and middle class, this is sad, they’re using both retain power.
          As for the rich , what do you call rich ? Don’t forget that when the democrats finally break the back of the rich who will provide jobs for the middle class and poor, most of the rich own or run many companies, I’ll grant you that too many CEO’s make too much money but it’s up to the share holders to stop the madness not the government.
          As for the water,gas lines,sewers,bridges , roads etc,,etc,,,a lot of those things are being taken care of by Union workers and most of us know that unions do a shabby job, the more they have to repair what they built after screwing it up the longer they will retain their pay check and that’s called job security , what’s sad is they do it on the back of the tax payers and vote mostly for the people who constantly claim to protect the middle class..Humm !
          The poor ! What can I say !
          Where I come from poor people live in what I would call shacks,eat very poorly and would jump at the chance to make 7 bucks an hour unlike what the liberals call poor with TV’, flat screen at that, cell phones, cars,T-bone steaks and their rent paid for by us POOR stiffs,,In some area we the tax payers are paying more than $1400 a month which is more that regular folks mortgages for those people while they’re sitting on their butts and keep collecting and in many cases have nothing better to do than use drugs + they don’t have to worry about their health care, while we;re struggling to pay for ours , they get it free, let them live in the poor standards for awhile, they will be glad to have a 7 dollar an hour job.
          I failed to understand why the liberal mind refuse to comprehend that you are enabling all bad behaviors while sticking it to the hard working decent citizens.
          We need to cut spending period, let me rephrase that, WE NEED TO GUTT SPENDING….

        • JC

          sherri ww says:
          April 2, 2011 at 11:23 am
          Mick-all I can tell you is to read the reply I just gave to jc above.You cannot fix the deficit on the backs of the middle class and poor,while the uber-rich take 90%of everything.
          ____________________________________________________________

          That is a fact. And the elitists, bankers, politicians and unions are all part of the same cancer on free enterprise.

  • http://charden@neo.rr.com Charles

    JC,
    You hit it right on the head. The only problem is, this is the only
    thing we have to fight with. It boils down to what type of greed you
    are willing to put up with.

  • http://charden@neo.rr.com Charles

    chuckb,
    Please quit using the Democrat Party`s name It is the Progressive
    party.The Progressives, just out smarted the Democrats in getting Obama
    elected. They and the media, also out smarted the Republicans. They are still out smarting the Dems and Rep and you can throw in a lot of Independents with the two parties. There are many, that still bow
    down to Obama and think he can do no wrong,to them, he is God in the second comming of Christ.Don`t just blame the Democrat party,blame the people that voted for him. They really missed out what he was saying for one reason or another. “I will transform America and
    spread the wealth.” The voters all thought they would be rich by now.
    Good to hear from you. You know I agree with you 99% of the time.

    • chuckb

      charles, i have to use the term every once in awhile to remind these people who they are and have become. progressive means getting a raise by force to them. lol

  • sherri ww

    @Claire.Thanks,and yes,I do stand up for what I know and believe in.I am probably on the wrong site,for getting very many to understand,but you know what?Not me,not anybody knows it all,and it is a good idea to tell folks what you know,and listen to what they know,and then maybe come to some real and decent solutions.I do know it will NOT work to just defund everything.You got to spend some more money,for a couple years,or so,a lot of money,and fix the things that need fixed,and,again,then people pay taxes and buy things and that’s it-country’s better off,the people really living an working and the deficit will get fixed,no doubt.OF COURSE we cannot go on borrowing$ ,but for right now we have got to,and spend it to put the people back to work.You can’t pay taxes if you don’t have a job,or spend$ in stores,to keep other’s working.And,all this business about defunding that Planned Parenthood.That IS insane!I don’t believe in abortion unless really necessary,but they do a lot more than that,and I also don’t believe in these girls having several babies that nobody takes care of!Then too,the Repubs want them to have the babies but cut off the milk program so the little things have nothing to eat AFTER they are born! Now-That is REALLY SMART THINKING.I see it everyday,in my little town,so how many millions of these helpless babies must there be all around this country-and these people who want to do this to these innocents,call themselves CHRISTIANS!?Good Lord.!

    • DaveH

      You’re on the wrong site, Sherri, but it isn’t because we can’t understand. It would be a cold day in the hot place before you could upstage most of us in any kind of mental pursuits.

  • chuckb

    sherri ww,

    do you ever wonder where the jobs went and why? do you ever understand the meaning of green? do you understand what effect cap and trade has on this country, the environmental laws? do you wonder why the msm is having orgasms over the nuclear power plant trouble in japan? how much radiation spewed in the atmosphere when we dropped the bombs on japan in 1945 how much when we exploded the nuclear bomb at the bikini atoll, how much in nevada during the 1950′s? how many here in the u.s.a. died from it? the liberal green movement is behind all the propaganda and scare tactics about nuclear power. this is just part or the reason why we don’t have jobs, the environmentalist have made it impossible for companies to do business here, impossible to build nuclear power plants, drill for oil, our energy costs are going thru the roof and your hero is bombing a nothing country for what? oh yes, he is keeping up on the basketball scores and taking vacations. and of course your government employees are protesting, they might have to get off their throne and live like the peasants who pay their salaries. maybe china will keep loaning barry more money. i wouldn’t bet on it.

    • DaveH

      You’re asking a bit much of Sherri, Chuckb.

  • http://charden@neo.rr.com Charles

    chuckb,
    The enviornmentalist, are the most dangerous people in America, next to Obama and his Marxist goons. He uses them and the unions to help
    forward his agenda.Once we rid ourselves of the likes of Obama and his goons,you better hope that the enviormentalist don`t take over
    our country. You might have a bigger problem, than we have with Obama,
    if that is possible.

  • jopa

    Charles;Hi buddy.The most dangerous people in America are our politicians.They take money from lobbyists and write the tax laws, environmental laws,and banking laws, and free trade laws that send our jobs overseas.It is possible we may see a day when there are no more unions and everyone will be in a temporary status in the working force.Companies then pay zero benefits and minimum wage.We are going to be a country of the super rich and the huddled masses of peons.Lobbyists of big business run this country and if you think otherwise you are a fool.

    • DaveH

      If you really believe that, Jopa, then why are you advocating for a political party that is building the Government power and size even greater than it already was?
      Businesses can’t force anything on us without the assistance of their Big Government bully boys.
      As Government Grows, Corruption Flows.

  • http://charden@neo.rr.com Charles

    Jopa,
    How was your trip to Ohio? You know,you better listen to
    what DaveH had to say. What he says is very true. Excelent Post Dave!!

  • Jay

    “Accumulating knowledge is a form of avarice and lends itself to another version of the Midas story. Man is so avid for knowledge that everything he touches turns to facts; his faith becomes theology, his love becomes lechery, his wisdom becomes science. Pursuing meaning, he ignores truth.”

  • jopa

    Charles:Trip to Ohio was fine except for the snow on Wednesday.Came out of the IX center and it was white everywhere.I really don’t know how Dave H got the idea I was an advocate for the Republican party!!What I would like to see is the politicians actually doing the work they were sent to do by the people and not the big corporations.I am not anti-corporate but we need a little fairness and sanity here.I don’t like any kind of welfare, public or corporate and when companies make billions pay no taxes and get refunds that is sick.Same thing goes for the general public.

  • http://charden@neo.rr.com Charles

    Jopa,
    If Obama has his way, the only way you will be working is under
    a union ran by the goverment. I would rather be working a temporary
    job than working for a union and if I disagree with them, I might get my head bashed in.

  • http://charden@neo.rr.com Charles

    Jopa,
    Glad you enjoyed Ohio. I don`t think we are going to have much
    of a spring.

    • http://?? Joe H.

      Charles,
      Lived in north-east Ohio for 31 years just east of Cleveland and as I can attest, Spring comes each year and summer follows!!! I love the 85-90 degree temps best, but will settle for 65-70!! The maple syrup people are loving this year!!! cold nights and temperate days, the sap flows good!! gonna be a good year and price should drop a little!!!

  • http://charden@neo.rr.com Charles

    JoeH,
    I love our 4 seasons also,but I would love to have a Spring where
    our flowers and trees bloom and aren`t killed by our frost and cold.
    Any more these type of Springs are far and few in between.Even with what should be a normal Spring with tempertures warming up, the maple
    syrup is still produced. I don`t like going from Winter directley
    to Summer.This happens in North East Ohio to many times.I hope it can turn into a nice Spring,it`s still not to late. WE LOVE OHIO!!!

  • Jill

    When we collapse, it is important that each state declare succession from the union and establish each state with it’s own constitution modeled after the original. Each state must elect their own president and act as a soveign individual country. This will avert enemies intentions to take us over and it may help us get our spending under control and maybe in few years we can be re united.

  • John

    Public Outrage Over Obama’s Project Gunrunner Scandal Grows

    Please post, report, and circulate. Please call your members of Congress and then the two offices mentioned at the end of this release!

    April 7, 2011

    CONTACT: Americans for Legal Immigration PAC (ALIPAC)

    As the Obama administration continues to stonewall congressional inquiries regarding orders issued to ATF agents to allow the arming of drug and illegal alien importing paramilitary groups, the level of public concern and alarm is growing.

    “We need to know how many assault rifles are currently pointed at American citizens courtesy of the Obama administration’s assistance to these domestic terrorist groups,” said William Gheen, President of ALIPAC. “How many thousands of illegal alien smuggling invaders are now armed thanks to these orders from the top?”

    The scandal known as Project Gunrunner continues to sweep the nation, creating a groundswell of concern from American citizens of all races, political parties, and walks of life.

    The Project Gunrunner, also called Fast and Furious, will likely become as big of a scandal as Watergate and Iran Contra!

    The ATF, Justice Department, Secretary of State Offices, and White House are all refusing to answer questions or provide documents to members of Congress who are demanding more information.

    According to the Washington Times, Rep. Darrell Issa (R-CA), who chairs the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform, has issued a subpoena for the ATF to turn over documents concerning “Project Gunrunner,” and records the agency has on the shooting death of U.S. Border Patrol Agent Brian Terry.

    “The unwillingness of this administration, most specifically the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms, to answer questions about this deadly serious matter is deeply troubling,” said Rep. Darrell Issa, California Republican. “Allegations surrounding this program are serious, and the ability of the Justice Department to conduct an impartial investigation is in question.”

    Talk radio shows across America are buzzing with the news that the Obama administration has been caught arming paramilitary rebels who are importing illegal aliens and drugs into America. This news is especially alarming considering President Obama’s refusal to secure the borders, adequately enforce existing immigration laws, or to honor his oath of office which requires him to enforce these laws and protect all states from invasion as the US Constitution demands.

    “What we have here is a well organized and destructive invasion of America that is being fully supported from the highest office in our land,” said William Gheen. “Americans have been betrayed at the top, first by Bush and now by Obama. Our enemies walk freely among us carrying elite armaments they have received with help from the Executive Branch. We have been betrayed! This is Treason! Congress must act!”

    Americans for Legal Immigration PAC continues to call for US Citizens to call and write all members of Congress demanding full congressional investigations into this matter, including appropriate prosecutions and possible treason charges. Citizens are asked to give special attention to calling and writing Speaker John Boehner (202-225-0600) and his right hand man Representative Eric Cantor (202-225-2815)

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    if America collapse,see on you tube Police state 4_ The Rise Of FEMA. Obama want to use that on us. This is worse president ever. he loves cloward prive strategy and saul alinsky thinking. Look it up.Commie.

  • http://charden@neo.rr.com Charles

    I can`t understand the members of Congress can`t see what Obama and
    his Progressives Friends are up to.He want`s to deystroy our way of life. Just the people he hangs with, should be all you need to know. This man is running this country in a treason way.He and his friends
    will destroy America and then the Deocrats who are no more,and the Republicans will wonder what happened.There dosen`t seem, that any one can do anything about what the Progressives are doing.Obama,
    Pelosi(THE BLACK WIDOW) and Bozo, Harry Reid seam to be bullig any-one
    that gets in their way. The Congress seems to be scared to death of these three. I just wish Boehner was as tough as Pelosi.She would eat him up and spit him back out. I think the Marxist own this country and we are to scared or to dumb to do anything about it. The way things are going and we make it to the 2012 elections, Obama will win going away. The voters have learned nothing and will deserve what
    ever they get. I feel bad for the kids of the American people,not
    for the people who voted for Obama. We will be a thrid world country
    with in 3 years and a Mexican speaking country in the next 20 yeare
    The Mexicans will be running this country with a iron hand and the whites and blacks will be living under a Apartheid type of goverment.
    There will not be a border between the US and Mexico. The new country will be called The United States Of Mexico. Don`t think this can`t happen and don`t think the Mexicans can`t pull this off.

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