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The True Nature Of Politics

March 26, 2012 by  

The True Nature Of Politics
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Politicians in America are employees of the state.

Politicians are employees of the state.

What’s the mystery? Why are these people (with some few exceptions) so against the American people? Why do they consistently promote socialism? Why do they have no financial responsibility? Why do they always promote socialist agendas like Obamacare and the 2012 National Defense Authorization Act that do away with human and personal liberties that have existed since the Magna Carta was issued?

Do not be deceived. Subversive elements can hollow out the soul of a nation without destroying its flag and national symbols, with very few people alert to what is happening. People, in their oblivion, think that they are still free if they don’t see tanks rumbling down the streets, armed guards and barbed wire, and fortified buildings with barred doors and windows.

Modern population control is not conventional warfare and military occupation. Modern warfare is psychological warfare. War has evolved into a form of false benevolence that masks tyranny in its most pernicious forms. It removes from the collective mind of the populace the thought that those being “protected” are, in fact, the target of the attack.

The pretenses and propaganda are so real that all but a few are deceived about the modus operandi of the political establishment charade. The state-induced psychosis segments and divides strangers, families and friends against themselves and polarizes the collective population against a small, alert minority.

This unbalanced situation can go on for years. Unbeknownst to the ruling elite, they continually self-destruct while their greed blinds them to reality that resistance is building sub-rosa.

People can be oppressed (pacified) to the extreme with propaganda and social welfare until a critical tipping point or shock potential is reached. At that point, physical pain and privation become general awareness, and demonstrations and riots appear.

This, too, can be suppressed with superior force for a time, but the same harsh armed suppression causes a greater portion of the populace to realize that government force is on one side and the citizenry on the other. This triggers a swell of capped rebellion to express itself and join the crowd.

So what happens? The state, in its unbridled greed, self-destructs. When the thousands of greedy bureaucrats and paid politicians overplay their greed so that chicanery in government is widespread and widely visible, it sparks social and militant revolution between the state and an aroused people who have guns. This is now!

Nothing can change this spontaneous process. It might blow hot and cold with twists and turns in the propaganda and a few million more food stamps. But the end is in sight and the crowds of people are beginning to see reality: A change of regime is at hand.

The old entrenched crowd must go, and some must be tried for treason. The hangman must be hanged!

Now, my friends, what do you imagine has delayed and postponed the liberation of the people from a greedy and despotic government? The answer is that there are two kinds of people in the world, and always have been, and never the twain shall be one. On one side is the great mass of basically honest people, then there is government.

All governments by nature attract greedy and parasitic people. In short, these are people who have the born mentality to live off of other people.

Politics and government are perfectly made for them. Keep in mind, there are a few exceptions. These (shall I call them humanoids?) have unusual qualities and attributes of personality that present them as benevolent, caring and concerned people with absolutely no hint that they wear masks that hide them as charlatans and greedy monsters. Under the masks they are Satanists devouring whom they will. Greed and aggrandizement are their silent forte.

Many of them belong to secret societies that historically have been at the center of subversive movements. Boy, this is mum!

We will call these people humanoids because they are deviants and devious. They have no conscience and no moral scruples. They are no respecter of persons except a feigned glow to extract something.

Their every thought is how to make the world flow to themselves. They would rip off their own parents or mate. “Selfish” is a kind word we can use to describe them.

What shall we call those people besides humanoids? By definition they are psychopaths. A more gentle term is sociopaths.

A caveat here is that most psychopaths don’t know that they are psychopaths. This makes them even more aggressive and sinister. They can kill people en masse for aggrandizement and greed. They hate wealth if it is not theirs. Sound familiar?

Another caveat: There are many rich and wealthy people who are not psychopaths.

Government is something for nothing as exemplified in the fiat monetary system. Something for nothing attracts greed and parasites. For sociopaths, government appears to offer something for nothing — an easy life and easy riches.

Sociopathic politicians and bureaucrats are usually intelligent and articulate. They know how to articulate and to harness the power of speech. They quickly learn control words as expressed here, and they repeat the themes of the elite and the party line. They are cold and calculating, and their every intent is to stay in office and stay in government.

Almost no politician will advocate a gold-backed currency. They won’t even mention it because gold is an economic straight jacket for Big Government and its politicians.

No politician will mention limiting House and Senate terms of office. No politician will advocate a bill to eliminate the privileges of office like their special healthcare and retirement benefits. Government is a privileged and plush existence for bureaucrats and politicians.

Politicians are afraid not to beat the drums for war because war is the agenda of the warfare-welfare state. They will support and mimic any war propaganda. Sociopaths/psychopaths will sell to the highest bidder as Judas sold out Jesus Christ for 30 pieces of silver.

Political sociopaths collectively cannot imagine themselves suffering the same punishment, misery and impoverishment that they have vented upon the American people. They have no conscience and they cannot discern that they are destroyers of law and order and that indeed they are destroying the system.

So you will know, in closing, we profile the sociopath:

  • He has glibness and superficial charm.
  • He is manipulative and cunning. Under his feigned charm, he is covertly hostile and domineering.
  • He has a grandiose sense of self.
  • He is a pathological liar.
  • He has no remorse, shame or guilt.
  • He has shallow emotions.
  • He has incapacity for love.
  • He is not concerned about how many lives he wrecks.
  • He usually has promiscuous sexual behavior.
  • He has a poor work ethic but is a master of exploiting others.
  • He has versatility and will change his image quickly to avoid prosecution.
  • He is contemptuous of anyone who understands them, like this writer.
  • He thinks only of his own immediate gratification.

Politicians in America are employees of the state. This must be understood! Until this is understood, we have no hope.

Bob Livingston

is an ultra-conservative American who has been writing a newsletter since 1969. Bob has devoted much of his life to research and the quest for truth on a variety of subjects. Bob specializes in health issues such as nutritional supplements and alternatives to drugs, as well as issues of privacy (both personal and financial), asset protection and the preservation of freedom.

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  • http://www.tjefferson-lives.org TJefferson.lives

    We the people have failed by electing these Socialists ie Progressives into power. Both Parties have allowed this.

    • Alex

      Why is it that you Fright Wingers so despise Progress?

      • http://www.mototcarsfinancial.com Brad

        Progress? As the article states the obvious. They take a bit of our freedom away inch by inch until it is too late. That is what is happening to you Alex, you just dont see it until it is too late. Wake up man!!

      • Warrior

        I wonder why, as I read this article, I have this vision of queen nan? Well, my day is not starting out very good!

      • Big Red

        Having government running our lives is progress. Having class war fare is progress. playing the race card is progress. having close to 50% of the American people pay no taxes is progress. Telling me what I can eat what I can’t eat is progress. Getting gas prices up to Europe prices is progress. Killing babes is progress. Telling us 8% unemployment when it’s really closer to 20% is progress.Telling me that I can’t pray in public is progress. Bring America in line with Europe economy is progress. Socialism is destroying America not making it greater is not progress.

      • PTTA

        Progressive Democrats want socialism. They want to by pass and change the constitution. They take away opportunity in this country, they tke away hope in this country. The lie and smear anyone who gets in their way. They are tearing down our traditional values and morals, under the guise of political correctness

        I am not against Democrats, or Republicans. I am, and always will be against the smears, lies, and progressive Democrats who push for a dictatorship. Progressive Democrats are not really Democrs since they could give one whit about the working and poor people. They only help their big donors and special inerests who are like minded with them.

        They can make their agenda sound so good, reasonable, and needed, but, they never keep their promises. After they are elected, they do not listen to what the people want. And make no mistake, the Republicans have these same type of people in their party also. They are called moderates, rinos. They are devoted to brain washing the American people. They get as many on welfare as they can, people who depend on goverment handouts. They do not want closed borders. hey wnt the illegal votes. They will stop pictured ID to vote. They will push electronic, and / or the mail-in vote only. This enables them to control theelection. Don’tthink so. Take a look at the Republican primary and how thenational party is controling the vote.I just watchd u-tube presentation on how that is done.

        Yes, I totally dislike the the progresive movement nd always will.

      • http://www.facebook.com/WizardKiller Mark Are Reynolds

        Progress? Towards WHAT? Total slavery and domination by a “select” few? I’d say we are progressing towards that a very rapid pace. Who wouldn’t agree?

      • JUKEBOX

        Progress is the new PC phrase for “SPREADING THE WEALTH AROUND”. None of these people have the intestinal fortitude to admit to the public what they really are or what their real agenda is. EXAMPLE: Nancy Pelosi, “We need to pass this bill so we can find out what’s in it”. What are they afraid of? Answer: REALITY.

      • Ellen

        Alex, How can you possibly believe the socialist agenda pushed by Democrats for 4 decades has brought progress? In nearly every measure, our country has deteriorated. Illegitimacy for blacks went from 24% to 76% since welfare was enacted. Blacks used to have very strong family structures; now only 35% of black women get married. They’ve lost their families and their values. The high school drop out rate for blacks and hispanics is around 50%. These people can’t even support themselves, so they live off welfare or illegal actions. Many end up incarcerated. Homosexuality is natural, but not normal. Why do liberals push the gay agenda? It’s not something to be proud of, but it’s not something to be ashamed of. Frankly, it’s nobody’s business except the gay person’s and their partner’s. Women with 3 nipples don’t go around bragging about their condition and looking for special acceptance, so why do gays brag about their sexuality? Schools teach our kids that they have a right to things they haven’t earned or purchased – like health care. They should be educating these kids with useful information and encouraging them to work hard to achieve at school and in their future employment. Just look at the idiot from Georgetown complaining her school health insurance policy doesn’t provide free contraception. She could’ve shopped for a different policy, as those school policies are not a bargain. My health care company requires a co-pay for birth control. Up until the mid-1990s, my insurance didn’t pay any of the cost. I had to pay full price for my pills from college until I was in my 30s, yet this ‘educated’ idiot thinks she deserves them for free. Why? The socialist agenda brainwashes these kids into thinking such ludicrous things. Besides, with Europe crumbling under their socialist programs, who in their right mind would even consider pushing a new socialist program?

        • http://www.facebook.com/rstsummers Rebecca Turley-Summers

          Contraception is basically free from every insurance company. You actually have to pay a higher premium to delete it. And, university students are billed every semester for a policy the school selects. There is no opt out provision. So, from any rational fiscal perspective, she is entitled to free contraception. Her school is intentionally charging her extra to not get free contraceptives. How does that make sense?

      • eddie47d

        I see Republicans and Democrats who dispise Progress. They yearn for the good old days and want to stop the clocks.Sometimes I feel that way too but change will always be there no matter how much I want things to slow down. You buy a computer one day and it is obsolete the next. There are hundreds of books I want to read but never find the time and this fast paced lifestyle is making us all dizzy. Progress means different things to different people and it doesn’t always fit into the perfect world we want.

      • DaveH

        Alex says “Why is it that you Fright Wingers so despise Progress?”.
        I say “Why is it, Alex, that you Liberals can’t make informative comments, instead preferring personal attacks and other adolescent manipulative tactics?”
        Progress to a Liberal is our money into their Progressive pockets.

      • independant thinker

        “Contraception is basically free from every insurance company. You actually have to pay a higher premium to delete it.”

        If that is true why did my insurance and deductable both go up when they added birth control coverage? As far as opting out of the birthcontrol coverage….the only op-out was to not have insurance.

      • GALT

        “So you think money is the root of all evil. Have you ever asked what is the root of all money?” Ayn Rand

        Today there are 1,655 billion physical dollars in existence and a rough estimate of the worlds total physical currencies is 8 trillion dollars.

        There are approx 82.2 trillion in worldwide debt securities.

        There is 36.6 trillion in equity value. ( the total value of all the stock markets combined.)

        Finally, there is the value of derivative instruments at 791 trillion, which is 100 times the value of all currencies and fourteen times Global GDP. They were conceived, issued and valued by the market, and they will be settled or undone, by the market. They are
        UNREGULATED and STATELESS. ( Power, inc.; David Rothkopf (c) 2012 )

        In a previous post to Mr. Root, the foolish notion that a gold standard would prevent anything……is discredited, since the U.S. controlled 75+ of the world gold supply in 1929, and was on the gold standard…….and the policies of the FED were NOT centralized, each of the thirteen member banks made policy, with N.Y. leading the way because of Wall St.
        ( Lords of Finance )

        If the argument is that “free markets” and deregulation” is the way to go, then the evidence above demonstrates that this condition has been achieved……it is responsible for our present condition and is beyond the power of any government or organization to
        control. The business’ which took advantage were too big to fail….because the governments which may have prevented this were and are too small to succeed.

        As in 1929, once you have a means in place to create credit, you increase the velocity of capital, then through fractional reserve requirements and margins….and in the latest round the securitisation of debt instruments, insurance, etc. increased this velocity
        even more so……returning funds to the issuing banks to be reissued, again and again.

        Now Mr. Livingston is correct when he points to the “corruption” of government…..but it is difficult to understand how the solution is less regulation…..which essentially permits those who corrupted the government to orchestrate what has already taken place, even more incentive with less inhibition to do it all again.

        I fully expect that there will be some here who will attempt to make the argument that such a position is anti-free market capitalism….and as one misguided critic noted about my last criticism of Mr. Root’s distorted litany about 1929….about government “taking money from those who make it.” which made me a “brainwashed socialist”. So let us be clear here….capitalism is defined as the private ownership of the means of production……and there is no production involved in devising 791 trillion dollars of financial derivative instruments. It is very creative and it is also, very, very, dangerous……

        Also the idea that the gold standard can hold anything in check is ignorance of history,
        which apparently escapes many people here since, one can see many quoting Rothchild but forgetting what business he was in…..lending gold and organization of branches of his bank to facilitate the use of “paper instruments” instead of having to transport the physical commodity……..so if the history is to be understood, correctly, rather than conveniently, and the answer to Ayn Rand’s question is of interest….the volumes cited above will help.

        There are solutions to the problems we face…..but they are not simple and they require
        understanding who the enemy is……that the government has been corrupted is true,
        but that would seem to suggest that an intelligent person would seek to know who was doing the “corrupting” and for what purpose……..and even though it is tempting to want there to be a single cause, with a simple solution…..history again tells us, this is highly improbable.

      • kkflash

        GALT,
        Your post above is a bunch of factless and illogical drivel.

      • http://gravatar.com/hattles JeffH

        Alex, or could this be Eric the Red??? I believe Mr. Livingston touched on your dilemma in his well written commentary:

        “The pretenses and propaganda are so real that all but a few are deceived about the modus operandi of the political establishment charade. The state-induced psychosis segments and divides strangers, families and friends against themselves and polarizes the collective population against a small, alert minority.”
        ___________________________________________________
        Your comment reminds me of the character, Pied Piper, in the book “The Children of Hameln” much the same way a relatively unknown mysterious man jumped from the underground of Chicago into the White House.

        This man was wearing a coat of many colored, bright cloth, for which reason he was called the Pied Piper of Hope and Change. He claimed to be a rat catcher, and he promised that for a certain sum that he would rid the city of all mice and rats. The citizens struck a deal, promising him a certain price.

        Needless to say they regretted this deal and it didn’t end well for the citizens of Hameln.

      • http://None Mike C

        Wow Alex calls us Fright Wingers. I love the left. There is always some slight of hand trick to change the subject, call someone a name, or subtly alter the perceptions of the citizen. Here Alex comes up with some catch phrase- boxing right wingers in a corner. Note he does not bring up a real topic. He is unwilling to discuss any real issue (no doubt he frequently loses arguments to his conservative friends when a specific issue is brought up). It’s sort of like the liberal who screams against the Bush wars and how costly there are… failing to realize that the tax payer is spending far more for entitlements (Medicare, medicaid, Welfare, etc.) than is spent on DoD and War (Source wikipedia: 2010 federal budget). It’s always… look this way (don’t look at what is really happening).

        Also note… He hides behind the vague term of progress failing to analyze whether a given solution (usually a big GOV solution) has had any positive impact. Do these liberal solutions really result in progress?

        The government cannot provide a single thing without first taking it from someone else. So when you see Alex, and he smiles and winks and throws out the progress angle- be warned- A theft is taking place.

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100003309707389 Tom W.

        Because you lefty loons (Thank you Mr. O’Reilly!) are facsists Alex! Y’all believe that you have the right to live whatever style life you want, and you do, but ya want someone else to pay for it! If anyone raises a voice of oppisition, instead of debating that person or idea in the spirit of what made this country the GREATEST that ever existed, y’all try to silence that voice at all costs!!! No wonder y’all worship King Obama! I know that you aren’t supposed to judge, (Forgive me Lord!) but judging Barack as a Christian, he’s a hypocrite!
        Excellent piece Bob! Why it was almost Shakespearian!!! BRAVO! Can you say blue-blooded megalomaniacs Bob?! Her Highness Crown Princess Pelosi for example?!! You are so right that all this political bickering is no more than one big Kabuki Dance! Our government is held captive by the oligarch that controls the purse strings, and if you actually believe that it’s DC, you’d better WAKE UP to what’s going on in our WORLD!!!
        “In a nation of laws, existence of the government will be imperiled if it fails to observe the law scrupulously. Our government is the potent, the omnipresent teacher. For good or ill, it teaches the whole people by its’ examples. Crime is contagious. If the government becomes a lawbreaker, it breeds contempt for law, it invites every man to become a law unto himself; it invites anarchy.”
        1928 Supreme Court opinion by Justice Louis Brandeis
        Wake up America!!! What?! Are we living in a country governed by a secret society of meglomaniacs who fancy themselves above the very laws that they’ve made their fortunes from enforcing the rest of us to adhere to?!
        “We are free today substantially, but the day will come when our republic will come to impossibility because it’s wealth will be concentrated in the hands of a few. When that day comes, then we must rely upon the wisdom of the best elements in the country to readjust the laws of the nation to the changed conditions.”
        James Madison
        “None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe that they are free.”
        Goethe
        “Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere.”
        Martin Luther King Jr.
        “For they bind heavy burdens and grievous to be borne, and they lay them on mens’ shoulders; but they themselves wll not move them with one of their fingers.”
        Matthew 23:4

        “For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.” Eph. 6:12 (KJV)

        These are the same people who are behind such artsy things as the Georgia Guidestones, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ojyBTAuv8Uc, now you tell me, if there wasn’t some sinister, powerful organization behind this blasphemy, would it still stand?!!

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bj3AECSKmhU

        http://www.thewatcherfiles.com/bloodlines/index.htm

        “And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.” – John 8:32 (KJV) – Just a little non-important side note, this verse is written in red!!!

      • http://gravatar.com/hattles JeffH

        Mike C, :) spot on…Alex is just a poorly trained Alinsky-ite.

      • http://katrael.wordpress.com Katrael

        Alex, there are several types of so called progress: one of technology and one of society. Technological progress is real. societal progress is an illusion; it’s another way of saying that people want to do what ever it is that makes them feel good all at the expense of others or of future generations. Most people who want societal progress are self centered and amoral. If it took millions of years to get our minds to the state they are in now and a few generations of people doing what feels good won’t change human nature or we were created thinking like we do and that can’t be changed it has to be controlled which is anathema to most people who want progress. The “progress” most people want is most likely having sex with their children or their neighbors wives or their animals or taking wealth from others by force (law, guns whatever) so they can live lives without effort but it is never beneficial to everybody. Most people who want societal progress really want to be able to act like animals and do it “legally”. There are those who want societal progress to eliminate tyranny and slavery but they don’t have any desire to act legally like animals; what they want is to be able to benefit through their own efforts but that’s really not progress that’s returning to a state of being that exists and is our right that we have and is one that can’t be given by a government.

      • Dave Bishop

        Us “Frightwingers” know what happens when men and women turn their heart and soul over to narcissistic “Progressives.” Those men and women want what everyone else has, and sooner or later they get it NOTHING but government control, government snooping, government mandating, and incarceration for all of us who want to be free. No one can deny that this has been the recipe every despotic government ever established. Then one day those men and women will wonder what has happened when they make the mistake of wanting more than the government is willing to allow.

        • http://www.facebook.com/rstsummers Rebecca Turley-Summers

          Dave
          Please do not use the word Progressive until you educate yourself on it’s real meaning. The people you are describing are fascists.

      • http://gravatar.com/hattles JeffH

        Rebecca,

        We’re Not In Kansas Anymore: The Progressives Rejection of the Founder’s Understanding of Freedom and the Constitution
        http://www.freedomlessons.net/freedom4.html

        It is not uncommon to hear people describe themselves as progressive. Hillary Clinton, for example, uses the label to describe her politics, as do a growing number of otherwise self-described “liberals.” She said: “I prefer the word ‘progressive,’ which has a real American meaning, going back to the progressive era at the beginning of the 20th century. I consider myself a modern progressive.”

        What does it mean to be a progressive? What is the importance of the term relative to our lives today? Who were the progressives, the political ancestors of the today’s Democrats? Most importantly is whether or not progressivism is hostile to individual freedom; understanding so helps clarify what is in store for us when we hear politicians and activists tell us they favor progressive policies.

        Progressivism was a major reform movement that began in the late 1800s. The movement shared the intellectual roots of European state theorists such as Hegel and Marx. In 20th century Europe their ideas came to fruition in the forms of communism in Russia, national socialism––that is, Naziism––in Germany, and fascism in Italy, respectively.

        Progressivism advocates—then and now—a total break from the principles of freedom articulated in our founding documents, particularly the Declaration of Independence. It seeks to either get around or dismantle limitations on government power, the very constitutional limitations established in the Constitution for the protection of individual freedom.

      • Anne

        It is simple, I refused to loose my freedom for some piece of crap commi nazi liberal social demmm occc ratttt iiccc view point. to many people died so I could be free, to many people gave everything for the concept of law and order with freedom, to many people have died for there religion instead of for the people by the people in the thousands of years before this country, it is time to stop the evil from these so called progressive people, all they want is to destroy, kill, murder, and enslave the world population for them, If you alex is to stupid to understand history, to brainless to see the pattern these evil people are working in front of your eyes, then leave this country because you are as guilty as every one who lived in 1923-1945 Nazi Germany. Htiler Jr is in the White House as we speak, evil is in the crowd behind hitler jr, and the new nazi’s party is following everything that NAZI GErMANY did between 1923-1945 , to the letter, so you better get the blank out of my country because idiots like you will be on the wrong end of my wrath because I will fight to the death and takie every evil person I can with me to make sure that this new nazi USA is destroyed at any and all cost. because my freedom is worth more than your little winny brainless self. DOWN WITH THE EVIL NOW
        DOWN WITH THE ILLEGAL ALIEN AND ALL THOSE WHO HELP PUT THE NEW HITLEr OBAMA JR THERE

      • Doug Rodrigues

        Alex, you’re confused. The DNC’s “progress” is the loss of Constitutional freedoms.

      • vinny

        What are progressives progressing to ?? You ever ask yourself that question ?? Here’s the answer COMMUNISM

      • Karolyn

        Katrael: “The “progress” most people want is most likely having sex with their children or their neighbors wives or their animals or taking wealth from others by force (law, guns whatever) so they can live lives without effort

        Where do get this stuff from????????

      • DaveH

        Rebecca (Flashman?),
        Please don’t correct me about my usage of the word Progressive until you figure out that a Progressive is one who believes in forcing their elitist ways on other citizens through Big Government.
        There are two kinds of Progressives — The Progressive Leaders or those who aspire to be, and the Progressive Followers who are just ignorant and believe that the Progressive Leaders care about them.
        Your double-speak may fool Ignorant people, Rebecca (Flashman?), but you aren’t going to fool most of the Personal Liberty readers.
        Of course, if you’d like, I’m sure the readers would like to understand what you advocate. Don’t beat around the bush. Tell us what you’d like, and how you intend to implement it.

      • CJM2

        What makes you progressives even think you will somehow be spared of the atrocities that the communist/socialist regime will impose upon ALL ‘common citizens’? Even German citizens thought they would be spared the horrors that hitler and his thugs heaped upon the citizens even when these same citizens did hitler’s bidding. Personally, Alex, I think you are rather ignorant of historical facts…but it still isn’t too late to learn something from the pages of history. Do yourself a favor and start studying; believe it, yu will benefit greatly from it.

      • Old Henry

        Alex:

        I think you better re-read the article, and then work on your comprehension.

        Liberal, Socialist, Progressive. They are all code words for Communist.

      • Jannette

        You must be brain dead Alex.You didn’t get it and you never will.

      • DaveH

        I am only going to address one part of Galt’s comment, as the rest is similarly flawed but I don’t have the time right now to develop the flaws.
        Galt says — “the foolish notion that a gold standard would prevent anything……is discredited, since the U.S. controlled 75+ of the world gold supply in 1929, and was on the gold standard…….and the policies of the FED were NOT centralized, each of the thirteen member banks made policy, with N.Y. leading the way because of Wall St”.
        First of all, the regional Federal Reserve Banks were created primarily because the Bankers and Politicians knew that the American people were not politically ready to accept a Central Bank, so the Bankers had to settle for Regional Banks that, in essence, operated as a Central Bank but gave the illusion of being de-centralized.
        The boom of the 1920s was fueled by the Fractional Reserve Banking of the Federal Reserve which had the effect of greatly ballooning the money supply, giving entrepreneurs false signals about the wherewithal of the citizens. As a result there was much malinvestment which was unsustainable and the resulting bust came in 1929 when the Federal Reserve was forced to cut back on credit in order to prevent an out-of-control inflationary spiral. The Gold Standard had nothing to do with the boom and bust other than maybe to keep it from being even worse.
        Please read this book to learn how Galt is trying to pull the wool over your eyes:
        http://mises.org/books/whathasgovernmentdone.pdf

      • DaveH

        And after you’ve read the above book, you should read this one to learn more about the history of money and banking in the US up to World War II:
        http://mises.org/Books/historyofmoney.pdf

      • GALT

        For David H: So clearly you have not bothered to read the book ( Lords of Finance ) and you seem to be somewhat confused regarding fractional reserve requirements which apply to the individuals banks which borrow from the fed.

        The name of the Banker who is featured prominently in this book, is Benjamin Strong who was the head of the New York Fed…and who dealt with the his opposite numbers, in Great Britain which was attempting to return to the gold standard, France who managed to do it successfully, and Germany which was a basket case because of reparations. This was covered in greater detail in my response to Mr.Root but do your self a favor and read the book…….of course a key question here is what was the value of the gold in reserve to the amount of currency in circulation?

        To further exacerbate matters as the stock market heated up, it was decided not to raise interest rates…..and since the rest of the world was essentially in economic distress, capital naturally came to where the best return was available, with low margin requirement
        which fueled the bubble which you may have heard of….

        So it is strongly suggested that you read Power, Inc and another book which will provide you with sufficient facts: Extreme Money……to actually make a case for whatever system you are attempting to promote…….so that you actually understand the factual history you will need to do so…..if it is YOUR case?

        What is somewhat interesting is that you seemed concerned that the facts here are troublesome for you….and I agree 791 trillion dollars of unregulated derivatives created by the free market does pose a bit of a problem for promoting unregulated free markets as a solution?

        There are more problems of course….and if you would like to know what they are, start reading…….because understanding here is not served by short essays which say little and offer less…….nor do the solutions lend themselves to sound bite mantra’s like End the FED…….of course maybe you don’t want a solution, or any solution that a government is part of? How you are going to manage that is anyone’s guess…….

      • Vicki

        Jukebox writes

        EXAMPLE: Nancy Pelosi, “We need to pass this bill so we can find out what’s in it”.

        That is NOT what she said. What she said is far more insulting, actually.

        “We have to pass the bill so that YOU can find out what is in it.”
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hV-05TLiiLU

        And the liberals in S.F. CA voted her BACK the very next election. Sure evidence that they like being slaves.

      • Bob Johnson

        This is not progress, it is capitulation, it is surrender, it is the loss of freedom, and the entrance into slavery, economic slavery,the elitists will control everything, they will tell the rest of us how to live, they will control every waking moment of every living soul in this country, you will have nothing, they will not allow it, you will own nothing, they will not allow it, you will not be allowed access to information or news, except that which has been spun to their liking. This is not going to be a pretty place to live, and it will be two hundred years before the coming citizens throw off the yokes once again. I wish them well, and perhaps they will learn from our mistakes, and do it better. Our biggest mistake, was in not holding the feet of our elected representatives to the fire, to compel them to do the job for which they were elected.

      • DaveH

        Galt says — “If the argument is that “free markets” and deregulation” is the way to go, then the evidence above demonstrates that this condition has been achieved……it is responsible for our present condition and is beyond the power of any government or organization to control. The business’ which took advantage were too big to fail….because the governments which may have prevented this were and are too small to succeed”.
        I don’t know what you’ve read, Galt, but it either was wrong or your reading comprehension is lacking.
        Governments and regulations are exactly what the Crony Capitalists thrive on. As Government Grows, Corruption Flows.
        If you read this book, Galt, maybe you would catch on. But then again, maybe you don’t want to catch on:
        http://www.amazon.com/The-Big-Ripoff-Business-Government/dp/0471789070/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1332823043&sr=8-1

        In Free Markets (which we nearly had in the nineteenth century), the Businesses had to please the consumers or lose their business. As Government grew many of them learned that supporting Big Government was a much cheaper road to success. Why deal with the vagaries of consumer tastes when they could simply buy their favorite Politician and get their competition squelched with regulations, quotas, tariffs, or other such protective devices?

      • DaveH

        And Galt, don’t lecture me about reading. I don’t pin my thoughts on a couple of books. I’ve read extensively about financial matters, and I make up my own mind what makes sense and what is Propaganda. You obviously have confused the latter with fact.
        If you knew anything at all about money, you would know that Leaders throughout history have used their monopoly power to control the creation of money and for good reason. The people that control the money control pretty much everything. Leaders have been depreciating their coinage for centuries by shorting the precious metal content at the expense of their ignorant citizens. But in the last hundred years or so they have hit the jackpot with fiat paper money which costs almost nothing to create and enriches the people who get it first at the expense of the rest of the citizens. Guess who gets the new money first?
        Gold may not be the perfect solution to our money problems, but it has stood the test of time and has performed better at it than any other form of money. During the years of the Classical Gold Standard (when the money of different countries around the world was defined as a certain weight of gold) there was peace and prosperity, as it was easy to trade internationally, thus taking advantage of specialization and the division of labor. With the institution of fiat money came the confusion of exchange rates and Governments manipulating and fighting over their currencies which caused many of the resultant wars around the world. World War II was attributed, for example, to the monetary mess created by World War I and the currency issues which resulted from it.
        Leaders love that there are so many ignorant citizens who will swallow their crap that the problems they cause were caused by somebody else. The buck stops with the Leaders.

      • Vicki

        DaveH says

        As Government grew many of them learned that supporting Big Government was a much cheaper road to success. Why deal with the vagaries of consumer tastes when they could simply buy their favorite Politician and get their competition squelched with regulations, quotas, tariffs, or other such protective devices?

        A clear and present example is the incandecent light bulb. Now outlawed in the US. Big companies that posisioned themeselves to invest and / or make CFL or LED lights stand to profit handsomly. (Do the letters GE come to mind?)

      • GALT

        Well David H the fact that you have no response to the 791 trillion in derivative financial instruments created by the FREE MARKET and UNREGULATED by anyone is not a surprise……and I would not presume to lecture you regarding your ability to read….the difficulty seems to be your ability to comprehend……and from the evidence thus far an inability to focus on the elements of the argument that you SEEM to be attempting to
        refute. ( or which you believe someone else has refuted but which you really don’t understand and are therefor incapable of reproducing in your own words.)

        While this might seem a step up from the non sequitor criticism of “factless facts and drivel”, in terms of logical reasoning, it holds no more weight, only more words.

        The fact of government corruption has already been conceded, and it seems to me that to address that problem would require actually dealing with government CORRUPTION, not positing free markets, or the lack of them, as a cause….or the gold standard which was in
        PLACE in 1929….and could not PREVENT what happened, and which in many ways was
        actually part of the problem. ( read book! )

        Since you resisted the further attempt to challenge any of the actual facts presented,
        deciding to dissemble to the commonly referenced but irrelevant rhetoric of the sound money concepts of primitive economic thinking…..while avoiding all of the questions that were posed, I shall offer a suggestion should you feel inspired or CONCERNED by any
        future comments I may make in these forums to which you may feel COMPELLED to respond.

        My interest in posting here or any other site of this nature, regardless whatever labels
        may be attached to it or bias it may contain……is a genuine interest in clear communication ( difficult at best ) to determine common ground and find an actual
        SOLUTION to what clearly seems to be, a common problem.

        To accomplish this my preferred approach is to attempt to determine what is the proper question that needs to be addressed…….and it will usually be found in what is offered.
        ( and of course will be directed at the subject material offered by the initial piece, in this case Mr. Livingston’s )

        A relevant response would be one that made the attempt to answer or further evolve
        the questions asked……because even when we manage to derive the proper question,
        or actually identify the problem, the elements involved are complex and the solutions, even more so. Now it may be that neither understanding nor solutions are the focus of this forum…….something that relevance and quality of response will determine….and I have little interest or time to engage responding to the irrelevant.

        You seem to spend a lot of time here, hopefully any future exchanges between us will be a bit more productive than this one has been.

    • Joe

      This is what we get, when Marxist are in charge.

      It may be to late to nip it in the bud.

      I pray that its not too late.

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100003309707389 Tom W.

        Joe, I truly believe that God Himself is getting ready to nip it in the bud!!!

        “Go to now, ye rich men, weep and howl for your miseries that shall come upon you. Your riches are corrupted, and your garments are motheaten. Your gold and silver is cankered; and the rust of them shall be a witness against you, and shall eat your flesh as it were fire. Ye have heaped treasure together for the last days. Behold, the hire of the labourers who have reaped down your fields, which is of you kept back by fraud, crieth: and the cries of them which have reaped are entered into the ears of the Lord of sabaoth. Ye have lived in pleasure on the earth, and been wanton; ye have nourished your hearts, as in a day of slaughter. Ye have condemned and killed the just; and he doth not resist you. Be patient therefore, brethren, unto the coming of the Lord. Behold, the husbandman waiteth for the precious fruit of the earth, and hath long patience for it, until he receive the early and latter rain. Be ye also patient; stablish your hearts: for the coming of the Lord draweth nigh.” – James 5:1-8 (KJV)

    • absolutely amazed

      And in addition to getting rid of Obamacare, we must get rid of Medicare as well – we are forced to pay for it on our paychecks, which is every bit as bad as Obamacare, and especially Medicare Part D, which in addition to being mandatory, penalizes us if we don’t want it or even sign up late. Medicare = Obamacare = Medicare D. If one goes, they all have to go. From the day of our birth, we should have the good sense to start saving for that rainy day when leukemia strikes. That is a million dollars minimum for a possible cure, and that requires setting aside essentially everything you and your family together will make in your lifetimes. Start saving ASAP; otherwise, just face it and die – life is hard, we all know that.

      • RichE

        absolutely amazed,
        And we need to get rid of forced federal income tax. It forces me to pay for a war I don’t want and a bridge to nowhere that I don’t need. I propose a change; the tax form should be a suggestion as to what my fair share i.e. the main departments of the budgets. If I don’t want to pay for NASA I’ll cross that off or put down the amount I want to pay or pay more if I want to.

        • http://katrael.wordpress.com Katrael

          There are no good taxes only better ones. The most evil tax is one where they take your home and mine and turn it into rental property to support public education. Watch what the king does when you don’t pay your property taxes: he rents it debt free to the person who can afford to pay his yearly rent thereby evicting you from the place where you put your money and effort into keeping his property. I hate this system. And income tax??? It’s almost as bad but our ancestors bought into it not considering their children or grandchildren; ignorant people. I don’t hate taxes but I do hate ones that you are forced to pay or you loose everything.

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100003309707389 Tom W.

        So absolutely amazed, I’m absolutely amazed at the nutered animal attitude you got goin’ on there!!! “Life is hard, we all know that.” I could almost hear ya whine! So let me see if i’m understanding you correctly, we should start saving every single nickel and dime from the time we earn our first buck till the illness we’ve been saving for strikes?!! “Or just go ahead and die.” Boy, I’ll bet you’re a hoot at parties! Talk about depressing!!! I’d rather die than live my whole life in fear fo an potencial illness!!! Are we so affraid of death that we would trade in our whole life trying postpone the inevitable?!!

        “Jesus answered them, I told you, and ye believed not: the works that I do in my Father’s name, they bear witness of me. But ye believe not, because ye are not of my sheep, as I said unto you. My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me: And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand. My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father’s hand. I and my Father are one.” – John 10:25-30 (KJV)

        He who hath an ear to hear…..

      • http://katrael.wordpress.com Katrael

        There are cures for every disease that cost little or nothing and if you don’t find one in time to keep you alive then there is the final cure: death. We need to get rid of all social security benefits…period. Medicade, medicare, welfare, foodstamps, social security, disability, unemployment and more are all a part of this monster social experiment that is doomed to fail. Let them die so others may live.

  • Michael J.

    Bob asks the question:

    “Why are these people (with some few exceptions) so against the American people?”

    Politics is a high stress occupation (they never know when they’re gonna get caught}. Asking them if they’re corupt is like detecting whether or not an attorney is lying by keeping an eye out for the proverbial moving lips. Come to think of it… most politicians are attorneys. Add narcisism to the mix and you have described the majority of them.
    Even the righteous do-gooders who go to Washington in the hopes of changing things for the better end up accepting less than Kosher deals while convincing themselves that the ends justify the means in their anxiousness to make a difference. I guess they do not realize in the adrenaline high of the moment that they are setting them self up for blackmale as a result of even the slightest impropriaty that in the end enslaves them to adhering to the party line from then on.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100003309707389 Tom W.

      It’s something in the water in DC Michael! The most honorable, honest, lookin’ out for the folks, (No not Bill O’Reilly!) hard workin’, sincere public servant you can imagine going into DC will come out just another swamp thing!!!

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJf0Sr1Ktmk

  • Tazio2013

    http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article30892.htm

    It’s a pity that Bush, when he was in office, made such a big deal of evil. He discredited the concept. He made Boobus americanus think it only existed in a distant axis, in places like North Korea, Iraq and Iran – which were and still are irrelevant backwaters and arbitrarily chosen enemies. Bush trivialized the concept of evil and made it seem banal because he was such a fool. All the while real evil, very immediate and powerful, was growing right around him, and he lacked the awareness to see he was fertilizing it by turning the US into a national security state after 9/11.

    Now, I believe, it’s out of control. The US is already in a truly major depression and on the edge of financial chaos and a currency meltdown. The sociopaths in government will react by redoubling the pace toward a police state domestically and starting a major war abroad. To me, this is completely predictable. It’s what sociopaths do.

    There are seven characteristics I can think of that define a sociopath, although I’m sure the list could be extended.

    Sociopaths completely lack a conscience or any capacity for real regret about hurting people. Although they pretend the opposite.

    Sociopaths put their own desires and wants on a totally different level from those of other people. Their wants are incommensurate. They truly believe their ends justify their means. Although they pretend the opposite.

    Sociopaths consider themselves superior to everyone else, because they aren’t burdened by the emotions and ethics others have – they’re above all that. They’re arrogant. Although they pretend the opposite.

    Sociopaths never accept the slightest responsibility for anything that goes wrong, even though they’re responsible for almost everything that goes wrong. You’ll never hear a sincere apology from them.

    Sociopaths have a lopsided notion of property rights. What’s theirs is theirs, and what’s yours is theirs too. They therefore defend currency inflation and taxation as good things.

    Sociopaths usually pick the wrong target to attack. If they lose their wallet, they kick the dog. If 16 Saudis fly planes into buildings, they attack Afghanistan.

    Sociopaths traffic in disturbing news, they love to pass on destructive rumors and they’ll falsify information to damage others.

    • Crystal

      Bush IS the epitome of evil. He gave the “evil that was around him” water to grow ! I can’t even stand looking @ the little monkey. I would love to see him in prison, rotting forever, and his little wife too.

      • JUKEBOX

        His wife is a “PROGRESSIVE”. Why would you want to put one of your like minded people in jail?

      • Buddy

        Well said Crystal. Unfortunately for people like us, the rest of the rino Republican monkeys continue to believe in his stupid economic policies and his middle east debacles.

      • DaveH

        Most members of both Political parties are looking out for themselves. And they have been for over 100 years. As Bob said, the profession attracts self-interested people.

      • http://gravatar.com/hattles JeffH

        Crystal, why are you showing so much hate this morning?

      • eddie47d

        Yet we hear crickets when Jeff and gang slams Obama as evil. That must mean those on the right are double evil since that rancor is even higher pitched.

      • http://gravatar.com/hattles JeffH

        eddie, could repeat that again, sounded like a muffled bzzzzzzzz…with your foot buried so deep down your throat I just couldn’t understand what you said.

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100003309707389 Tom W.

        The whole gist of Bob’s article is that politics is nothing more than Kabuki Theater!!! Does anything ever really change when the pther party takes office or do we keep going right down the ole’ primrose path towards something envisioned and warned about by our founders!!! If my sources are true and I’ve been a believer for a good 15 yrs. now, these people are straight-up Satan worshippers!!!

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oc8VQrWqkos

        Y’all do realize that Barack snd Dick Cheney are 8th cousins don’t you?!!

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dl0V_2kZzNA

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100003309707389 Tom W.

        Notice the true look of anger on David Gergen’s face when undressing (Pun intended!) Alex Jones asking him about Bohemian Grove! That’s not acting folks!

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHFoUZEjuNM

        The owl is worshipped by members of the occult for it’s ability to see in the dark, did you know that there’s a tiny, almost undetectable owl on the face of the dollar bill and represents the Bohemian Club?!

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_M998_9xQ0

      • Crystal

        JeffH: I don’t mean to sound hateful, most of these issues are more important than it may seem. When I hear some of the rhetoric, and down right ignorance that falls out of people’s mouths, it exacerbates me ! Bob wrote a great article here, and it seems to me some just want to sugarcoat all the criminal activity of these “employees of the state”.

    • Michael J.

      Tazio2013,
      Your definitions of Sociopaths is spot on in a Deja-vu sort of way and is disturbingly fitting. Up until now I thought Obama was just a narcisist!

      • Kate8

        Michael J. – I recently watched this little 1958 video on the secret life of Adolph Hitler. Our government, at the time, commissioned a psychological profile on him so they could learn how he ticked, presumably to know how to defeat him. Now, because he was so successful at rallying the public to back him in even the most heinous acts, his methods are being used again on a populace who has either largely forgotten NAZI Germany, has learned a revised version, or has never heard of Hitler and has no idea who he was.

        Note that this film was made when WWII was still fresh in the minds of two generations.

        Many of us are horrified at what we see taking place today. But the younger set is enthralled with another reincarnation of Hitler, and the resolve of “never again” has been swept into the dustbin of history as a fresh crop of youth falls for the same promises and the same demonizations aimed at those who stand in the way of the elite utopia. But, of course, the secret is, the “Utopia” is only for the elite. For the rest…h*ll.

        See if this profile doesn’t reflect the profile of another mysterious orator who rose from out of nowhere. It’s creepy.

        http://www.forbiddenknowledgetv.com/videos/history/the-secret-life-of-adolf-hitler-1958—full-film.html

      • http://gravatar.com/hattles JeffH

        Kate8, LMAO(not really)! I plan to watch the video. I’ve watched quite a bit on Hitler from his earliest years to his death and it’s just too easy to see how people end up entranced by people like Hitler. Just look how Obama took the world by storm…promises of “Hope & Change” are just words for the utopians, or should I say Ameritopians. Thank God for history and those that recognize the good and the bad from it.

        You might like to check out this: AMERITOPIA: Mark Levin Connects the Dots
        http://www.americanthinker.com/2012/01/ameritopia_mark_levin_connects_the_dot.html

        I caught a bit of the Mark Levin show the other night on the radio and he touched on this “Ameritopia” thing. I found it quite interesting…and much like Rush Linbaugh or Beck, I only listen to them if they’re on while I’m driving.

      • Michael J.

        Kate8,
        Thanks for the link. I have not seen this before and though I had a chance to watch only a few minutes initially, have plans to later watch it entirely.

        Lots of new stuff now on Hitler’s Occult following. I would advise you to be careful however, though these new products are informationally jamb-packed, the Hollywood producers responsible for the creation of the documentaries manage to slip in a few propaganda zingers. They matter of factly pronounce him a rightwinger, for example. I also noticed that they conveniently left out the pesky little fact that he was the head of The National Socialist Party.

      • Kate8

        Michael J. – Point taken, but not to worry on my account. I’m wise to all the psy-ops going on everywhere.

        Yes, Hitler was a socialist. That is Leftist, no matter how the Progs try to convince us otherwise. They have just fallen for the current propaganda.

        At any rate, this film doesn’t get into that. This is from 1958, when the fear of communism was high. It is merely a profile on the man and, even considering the Freudian approach to psychology of the era, is startling when placed along side the events and potus of today.

      • Vicki

        Michael J writes

        They matter of factly pronounce him a rightwinger, for example. I also noticed that they conveniently left out the pesky little fact that he was the head of The National Socialist Party.

        That is cause they never define their terms. They are intentionally misleading the gullible public.

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N4r0VUybeXY

    • absolutely amazed

      Sounds like ZImmerman of Florida to me – you described him pretty perfectly.

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100003309707389 Tom W.

        You mean Debbie Wasserman (I know everything!) Shultz don’t ya aa?!!!

      • http://katrael.wordpress.com Katrael

        Here’s where I agree with you: we have to be concerned about the evil in our own country first. Power corrupts and we’ve left our corporate criminal politicians get too much power and it’s time to reign them in since we are really the true sovereigns here. This may not be an exact quote but it’s true and it didn’t originate with me, “all evil needs to triumph is for good men to do nothing.”

  • Tazio2013

    War Criminal
    Dick Cheney Gets New Heart

    By Bobbot

    March 25, 2012 “Salon’ — Dick got a heart transplant. At age 71. Did he shoot the donor himself or did he have someone else do it? Is he going to use the old one as a doorstop?

    I wanted to write something a little tongue in cheek, get a little laugh going but, the more I thought about it the angrier I got. At 65 a lot of people are told that their age is a disqualifier for this kind of surgery. Who paid for it? Was this a part of his “government health care”? That stuff that doesn’t work and that would destroy our nation if it were given to the common people?

    I’ve spent three years trying to get on social security disability and this millionaire a**hole can get a f***ing heart transplant.

    I wonder, when they opened him up was there actually a heart or was it just a fist with an upraised middle finger.

    • Barbara

      So typical of someone from the left. Vile comments and empty rhetoric. I wish you great health throughout your life and only hope that if you ever attain political or celebrity status that you will not have to endure shameful and dispicable comments such as those you heap on others who don’t share your values or opinions.

      • Tazio2013

        I’m a free-thinking neo-libertarian who thinks that Cheney Bush was the single worst POTUS in American history.

        Mens sana in corpore sano
        Tuam libera mentem
        Semper fi!

      • Karolyn

        Cheney never cared who was hurt by HIS actions. Do you really believe he cares what anybody says about him?

      • gordy three horses

        at least he has values, and opinions, unlike a brainwashed socialist like you.

      • Crystal

        You sound like a shill.. Empty rhetoric ? Your a monkey backer, and you just don’t like it when someone tells the truth. BTW, you don’t have to be a lefty to despise this man.

      • George E

        I don’t know if Dick Cheney is a good man or not because we’re not personal friends. All I know about him is what I’ve observed on TV. One thing I’m pretty sure of is that he’s not a sociopath since he doesn’t meet the test presented in this article. That suggests to me that he’s not a typical politician. The question is “is this a good thing or not?” I’ve observed a lot of people over my 64 years who don’t always present a friendly outward appearance, but who have been able to make tough decisions that help us move forward and do the things we need to do. Could Dick Cheney be one of these people?

      • DaveH

        You know he’s not a Sociopath, George, because you’ve seen him on TV?
        Do you think they are going to come out and reveal their true selves to the public voluntarily on TV?
        I’ve been intimately associated with 3 Sociopaths, and believe me when I say that to the casual observer they were reasonably normal people. How else could Sociopathic Politicians keep their positions of Power if they didn’t deceive the people? With Sociopaths, you can’t judge them by their words. You must learn to read between the lines by observing their actions.
        Here is an excellent example. They real story of a man who achieved the label of “Honest”, which was no small feat for a Lawyer. Yet, his direct actions led to the imprisonment of thousands of dissenters and the deaths of over 600,000 people, most of whom just wanted to be Independent in their own country. This book should be required reading for the Propagandized masses:
        https://mises.org/store/Product2.aspx?ProductId=172

    • TIME

      Tazio,
      I agree with you 100%, but saddly he is just one of the countless within the ranks of the blood sucking monsters we call leaders.

      Peace and Love

      • Kate8

        I’m with you TIME. They are all what you said.

        Note that the media had to assure us that he got no special treatment or privilege, but had waited for his number to come up just like everyone else. Right.

        Does anyone honestly believe that he just took the first organ that came up when it was his turn to bat? I mean, he’d have to take his chances on the origin…

        Jus’ sayin’. But then, most folks think I’m out there.

        Well, less so these days, it seems.

      • TIME

        Kate,

        I enjoy your post, as I see it your not in any BOX, so that makes your post well worth the read.
        Saddly most people are in little box’s and enjoy staying that way.
        So why even waste my time reading thier post let alone responding to what amounts to little more than a case of Utter and complete Stupid.
        I will not even argue with these mindless droids anylonger, as they will never change so why bother.

        Some times the TRUTH is very hard to swallow, I know that first hand, I learned it the hard way.
        Saddly the way many will learn the folly of their way is going to be so hard that its going to kill them, I mean literally kill them, I know you understand what I am saying.

        Kate never think your off when its really the > go along to get along types that are really the OUT THERE gang.

        Peace and Love, Kate.

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100003309707389 Tom W.

        Hey Kate8, Welcome to the club!!!

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OkwoHklxJcU

        I couldn’t say it any better so why even ponder?!!

    • JUKEBOX

      I understand they FedExed his heart to “FATHEAD ED SCHULTZ” at MSNBC so he can use it for a football. Maybe we could use Schultz’s head for target practice after they give him a head transplant.

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100003309707389 Tom W.

        “Give me Dick Cheney, a waterboard, and a hour, and he’ll confess to the Sharon Tate murders!” – Jesse Ventura

    • Michael J.

      Tazio2013,
      Dick Cheney’s quest for life is no more out of line than Ted Kenedy’s, who exhausted every known means to extend his life, while being co-sponsor of Obamacare and the euthanasia policies contained therin.

      • OB1

        Interesting comment. I think Cheney and Ted Kennedy both feared death. Seriously, without true confession and repentance, would you want to be either one of them standing before the divine judgement seat of God Almighty? Think about it….how about some of the rest of them supposedly elected over the years that have destroyed our public education system and produced a generation of the propagandized as well as the uninformed? I will provided a moment of mirth, as well as continue to pray for God’s mercy on their souls:

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NLW_QAlqLWM

        • http://katrael.wordpress.com Katrael

          We all die sooner or later and it’s only a matter of how long we have to live and the quality of life while we’re living it. You can’t prolong a life with any kind of quality using the current established medical profession and their sorcery (pharmaceuticals). Let them die the horrible death the deserve.

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100003309707389 Tom W.

        One can only pray that Teddy came to know Jesus as Lord and Savior before his passing, as for Dick, I think he’s still got some pentin’ to do!!!

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BbnpN07J_zg

    • Pete0097

      Wether you like Cheney or not, he was on the list to get a heart for the last 20 months. In addition,, the new part must be close enough to have time to put it in AND it must be a viable match. Besides, the lawyer he shot was in season.

      • OB1

        In the Wizard of Oz, Dorthy meets the Tin Man, who wants a heart. If he only had a heart, he would finally be OK. Please read the end of this story how it turns out once Dorthy and her friends discover the “real man behind the curtain, the great and powerful OZ”.:

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pF0zKH7ksPk

      • Michael J.

        OB1,
        At the end of the story the Tin Man eloped with Dorothy. This was of course the last straw for the Scarecrow who also had eyes for Dorothy.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100003309707389 Tom W.

      It was poetic justice that Dick had a lesbian daughter and a mechanical heart!!! I never quite understood how someone who didn’t possess one have a heart attack!

  • http://httpaol.com sean murrey ILLInio

    Greedy people want more money and power.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100003309707389 Tom W.

      Sure sounds greedy to me!

  • TIME

    Bob,

    What a fine blog, saddly many just will not get it.

    Also Saddly the schools have done such a great job of bending, twisting and distorting the youths, let alone countless millions of adults thinking into something that has little to do with thinking at all.

    Peace and Love………

    • Karolyn

      TIME – I am taking American Government 201 this semester, and it truly amazes me what these kids, and young adults, don’t know. I was just thinking this morning about how ridiculous it is that even after reading the chapters in our book, they still don’t know what they’ve read, as evidenced by their responses to discussions online. Of course, I’m well aware that people do get more involved when they get older; however, I think that I was more politically aware when I was in my 20s (especially since it was the Viet Nam era.) It is a sad state of affairs seeing the lalaland so many live in. I also take into account that the students in this school are all from a primarily rural, pretty self-contained, area. Sometimes I feel like I’m lost in space.

      • Frank J.

        you are!!!!!!!!!.

      • Scott in SC

        Karolyn,
        Your posts always turn to the rampant ignorance in the South. Maybe you should consider a move back to the North.
        I live in SC and am a Magna Cum Laude graduate with a degree in Economics. My brother who lives here has a BA and an MA in Biology, his girlfriend a degree in Marine Biology. Between us, we have not only visited but lived on 6 of the 7 continents. I could continue the list with many others i know who live in the South. Your uninformed view of Southerners is becoming extremely offensive.

      • eddie47d

        She was only referring to the area she lives in Scott. Would you rather she lie about it to boost your already inflated ego. Are you concerned about those regions whether in the North or the South?

      • Karolyn

        Scott – It is what it is, and if I were living in an isolated rural area in Pennsylvania or even NJ, it would be similar Where I live, there is a definite class system, with those old white families holding sway over much. Try getting a job if one is not a native. Yes, of course, there are many educated intelligent people here; however, there are also a great many who are poor, uneducated and live in their own little worlds of family and friends, with little thought given to the “outside world.” As I opened with, this type of situation does exist all over the country but especially in several southern states. South Carolina is #1 in the country in assault, #7 in women killed by men and #13 in rape according to recent figures. As I said, “It is what it is.” I am not judging, just making observations.

      • Karolyn

        PS Scott – Do you live in or near Charleston or Columbia, Greenville or Myrtle Beach?

      • Michael J.

        Karolyn says:
        “Sometimes I feel like I’m lost in space.”

        I promise to stop making fun of your comments. But you’ll have to stop making it so damn easy if I am to avoid the temptation. Deal?

      • Duane

        It really begs the question doesn’t it?? There are more uninformed, under educated public school drop outs than there are rural people. I would be willing to bet that the uniformed drop outs would probably do much worse than the people from rural areas who are raised to have common sense. I have known my share of both in my life time and will say that the rural types that you point out are a lot smarter than the public school drop outs. This whole thing is a damning indictment against the public school education that is being foisted on our children, when Johnny still can’t read, write or do simple arithmetic. I have friends in the college education system who are not politically movtivated. And the one thing they all agree on is that the people who are currently in the master’s or doctorial programs today cannot express themselves in a concise and intelligent manner do to what is called grade inflation. These people ( my friends in the education system) say that due to all the left wing politizing of education a person who gets a masters or phd today will have the equivalent of a two year college degree from a junior (community college) twenty years ago. So we have a nation the contiunes to become more and more under educated due to the current teaching methods foisted on us by unionized teachers who have no business being teachers.

      • TIME

        Karolyn,

        I understand what your saying.

      • OB1

        Karolyn, I did understand what you meant. I have lived in affluent cities as well as in rural communities in my lifetime. I have family in rural Virginia as well as an affluent area of North Carolina. I thought this post was one of your most observant and objective.

      • Scott in SC

        Karolyn, I live in Chesterfield County which I believe is very close to you. My comment wasn’t aimed at just this post. You frequently comment on the “backwards” people you meet everyday in SC. I’m sure if you looked you could find ignorant people everywhere. There’s eddie47 here. See what i mean.

      • Karolyn

        Scott – Gee, we may even have met at some point! I will admit that I have been a bit harsh about SC at times (I went through some pretty rotten times since I moved here); however, I have come through my winter of discontent and am pretty much at peace. I hope that you got the jist of my post like others did. I still maintain that what I’ve said is true. I was told about four years ago by a native that no matter how long outsiders live here they can never get into the local clique of the established hierarchy. Maybe you don’t see it because you’re a native? At any rate, I have no problem with anyone here and am a respected member of the community at this point in time.

      • oh oh

        John Stossel has proven this about students many times, and it’s even worse than suggested here… they usually aren’t even drop outs.

    • JUKEBOX

      Most government schools teach “Revisionist History” today!

    • Kate8

      TIME – This is a wonderful article that is along those veins, and the vein of this thread.

      http://dprogram.net/2012/03/25/the-artificial-birth-of-the-planetary-security-state-myth-ritual-and-symbolism-in-the-global-war-on-terror/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+wordpress%2FBcwy+%28Deprogram%29&utm_content=Yahoo%21+Mail

      I post this to you because I know that you have above the average understanding.

      Godspeed to you, my friend.

      • TIME

        Kate,
        Thanks I will give it a read a tad later today. You may also enjoy John Taylor Gatto, just google him, he is a really very smart dude and a lot of fun to talk with.

        Peace and Love Kate….:-)

      • http://gravatar.com/hattles JeffH
      • http://gravatar.com/hattles JeffH
      • Kate8

        Thanks, JeffH. The ruination of our children is a subject very close to my heart.

        Human life is being degraded at breakneck speed now. There is no easier way to damage our kids minds that to use the education system.

        Progressives always target the children. And it’s always in the name of protecting them. From what, you may ask?

        From things like parental wisdom, love of God, doing the right thing, personal sovereignty, regard for others, good manners, responsibility and accountability, and perhaps the most sadistic of all…the ability to actually think original thoughts and reason.

        How anyone can look upon the agendas of the progressives and not see what they are really about is a very sad thing. It just goes to show the level of success they’ve had in today’s schools, twisting these little minds into good little Borg.

        Alas, useful idiots are idiots nontheless, and when their usefulness runs out…

        • http://katrael.wordpress.com Katrael

          Kate8 you’re so right and this indoctrinating that goes on in our public schools started way back in the early to mid 1800′s and has been steadily gaining strength through the generations.

      • http://gravatar.com/hattles JeffH

        Kate8, so right you are. The children are the next generation of society and to indoctrinate and propagandize them is an evil necessity…the end justifies the means.

  • Jimmy

    A very good discription of the current
    administration. It is overtime for a new
    one and to get back on track.

    • Karolyn

      Do you really believe a change in sociopaths will change anything?

      • George E

        Karolyn,

        That’s a good question. What’s your solution?

      • John

        The problem is that honest people never make it onto the ballot. By the time they are running,and the majority of people find out about them, they already are bought and paid off by special interests..

      • George E

        John,

        I’m inclined to agree with your position. However, I’m curious. What’s your solution?

      • John

        George,
        Honestly, I do not see any obvious solution to this problem. I.M.H.O. the only chance of change that we have is to wait for this system to find its natural end and collapse. Yes it will be hard to wait, but it is something that seems to be not to far away. After the collapse, people will have a chance to do it right and start all over, but it has to fall first. A revolution by the people before a natural collapse will only result in death of millions, destruction and the power elite being even more secure.You can not win with pea shooters and deer rifles against modern warfare instruments. In a natural collapse, even the military the elite is counting on will not function anymore. So many are dreaming about a 2nd revolution but fail to see that any attempt to do so will just play right into the hands of the people that run this country. They would love to have a revolution, it would reduce the population…mostly of the poor and middle class, and so afterwards it will be even easier for them to rule.
        This people that run this country are not some 3bid mid east dictatorship that the people can overthrow easy.

      • George E

        John,

        If the country does devolve into anarchy, this would be a very sad situation. Law and order would be non-existant so there would be little political stability. This would kill our economy as the US would become no better than a “banana republic”. Capital and capitalists would move to more stable areas. Unemployment would go though the roof, and the currency would become worthless. And, in the end, which political philosophy would eventually win out over all the others to finally bring stability to the country? If it did, history suggests it’s probably more likely to be a dictatorial system with a strong socialist philosophy than a democracy or certainly not a representative republic. Therefore, I doubt letting the country devolve into anarchy is likely to bring us back to a constitutional democracy or any sort of political system that we really want.

      • John

        George, and a violent revolution would be any different? No, a revolution would turn this country into the equivalent of Somalia with local strongmen (warlords) building their own little paradises …if…. they would by any miracle overthrow the elite controlled army. And anyone who believes even for one second that the military will side with the revolutionaries are i.m.h.o. utterly delusional. It would be better to let this country sink into the beginnings of anarchy and then organize and take over. A revolution before that point would only cause the people to expend their limited resources too early. The political process that people are addicted to has been corrupted and is meaningless. I.M.H.O. its wait or bust.

      • George E

        John,

        I agree with you, except to the extent that it would be better to let the country devolve into anarchy. If it does, you can not be sure when or if it will come out of anarchy, and if it does, what sort of government it will have. It’s much better to fight the good fight now rather than waiting and hoping for anarchy.

      • TIME

        Karolyn,

        Thats the 16 Trillion Dollar question that many Americans just will not ask.

        Great Post.

        Peace and Love

      • TIME

        George and John,

        The only way is so simple that most just can’t fathom it.

        Walk away and stop feeding the beast, known as the United States Inc..

        Its really just that simple, if we stop supporting these blood sucking vampires they loose their power, as the very energy they thrive on is no longer there as a food source.

        Peace and Love.

      • George E

        Time,

        I believe you are exactly right. The question is how can we do this?

      • Kate8

        I would say, rather than holding our nose and voting for the perceived lesser-of-two-evils (which is only an illusion, anyway, since they are all part of the same club), or even voting for Ron Paul, whom the PTB will never allow to be POTUS…

        Let’s boycott the whole election. Stay home. Don’t vote. Can you imagine, if most of us refused to participate in what amounts to a useless exercise anyway, since the outcome is already predetermined…it would be a huge vote of “no confidence”. The election could be declared invalid.

        We aren’t going to get anywhere as long as the same people keep holding office. Same people, sometimes new faces… But always the same men behind the curtain calling the shots.

        BTW, did you hear that Ms. Pelosi, who was estimated to be worth $21million just two years ago, is now worth $200million? These people aren’t becoming staggeringly wealthy by looking out for our interests. As they keep telling us that we must lower our standard of living, they increase theirs exponentially somehow.

      • George E

        Kate8,

        That’s an interesting proposal. However, I believe if we sit out elections we’ll just be delegating our vote to those who do take the time and effort to cast their ballots. In other words, we’ll be surrendering to those we oppose, and that’s not what we want. The only real hope is to take back our culture and win the hearts and minds of the American public. That’s exactly what the “progressives” have done. They’ve been at it for more than 100 years. The problem with us is that we want to elect a leader that will fix the problem tomorrow so we can get back to business and quit worrying about politics. That won’t happen, regardless who is elected. The problem is deep seeded and will take many, many years to fix. We must be diligent and focused on the long term.

    • anonymous

      the peaceful solution is to vote for ron paul, get him into office and check the oathkeepers website “http://oathkeepers.org/oath/” there are many that are aware and ready to fight for the constitution if necessary

  • revnowwhilewecan

    More and more people are realizing that the government is not in place to protect or service us. More and more people are realizing that our political processes involve the elitist placing their people on both sides and and giving then titles such as “republican, democrat, conservative, liberal etc. They also come up with convenient names for when they have to switch parties for advancement such as, moderate, progressive, neocon and the like. Then, after all the pieces are in place they have what they call a democratic election to give the illusion of choice when in reality, minus the name brands, they are “almost” all the same. A popular saying is that “if you don’t vote then you can’t complain”. I agree. That’e why I’ve never complained about politics before December of last year and I have never voted. Well I’m done sitting idly by and I’ve much to say now at 41 yrs. of age of a true America who wants only the best for Americans. A trait largely forgotten by our (poorly misnamed) elected officials.

    IMO this is and has been changing. It’s no coincidence that the awakening going on the last few years has coincided with the use of the internet, specifically the blog world. MSM is slowing being phased out in lieu of the internet and other instant communication sources such as Facebook and twitter and the camera cell phones. MSM and it’s controllers no longer have the propaganda power they once had even tho they definitely keep at it. They are becoming exposed almost right away because of things such as, an unexpected cell phone picking up on the lie, then before the damage control team can organize, it’s been tweeted about and pics and links have already been posted.

    It’s because of these things that so many people are tired of the some old rhetoric coming out of the mouths of politicians and most of them are having a hard time coming up with campaign strategies to woo the people. People are too tired and suspicious of the perfect candidate with their ivy league schooling, choreographed actions, catchy slogans and speeches written by focus groups. Nevermind the Q&A segment, post speech, with the questioners already selected with answers that have been analyzed more closely than a forensic N.C.I.S. officer.
    As most of you know, my favorite tool of all for combating the establishment’s hand picked chosen ones for offices is the blog world. These chosen ones have the MSM to work the little propaganda they have left to the fewer and fewer naive ones who still look to these sources as reliable information. That’s where we come in. Once again I’m calling on (most) my fellow PLD bloggers to go on the MSM sites a few hours a week and continue to expose the politicians for what they really are. Even if you don’t show yourself to be a Ron Paul supporter you can just stick to the facts on the other candidates and people with any moral fiber and common sense will eventually find Paul for themselves. Stay away from the personal attacks and name calling. Expose their voting records, past lies and broken promises. I think we can all agree that politics in it’s current state is again, laughable. People are sick and tired of being sick and tired and are looking for a candidate who truly represents the people and has the track record to prove it. Real change doesn’t come from the top. It starts in the trenches and I believe the trenches are in the MSM gutter blog sites. I put a lot of hours in so I’m asking that you also do your due diligence. We work our way out of the trenches to the water cooler, to the break rooms then eventually to the pulpit.
    This is how we make a change and help expedite this paradigm shift in the political spectrum. The question is, can we infiltrate now or must we wait for a complete collapse and then rebuild. I choose the former. Either way, the awakening continues

    Now if I could only type more than 15 words a minute. :)

    • Warrior

      I’m in!

    • Tazio2013

      I appreciate your optimism re meaningful socio-politico-econo-cultural change but objective reality dictates that it will take a “miracle” to break the strangle hold that the Republikrats have on the US SPEC system.

      • George E

        What is the “US SPEC system”?

      • Big Red

        “miracle” to break the strangle hold that the Republikrats have on the US SPEC system.
        What do you mean strangle hold that the Republikrats have on the US SPEC system? Sound like you would rather have Obama again than a Republican back in office? Sound like you think the Democrats are a better choice? Come next Nov it’s either Obama or a Republican. Capitalism vs socialism which is your choice?

      • eddie47d

        There are socialist policies that are entrenched in our way of life and just as equally we have crony capitalism entrenched in our lives.Neither always serve us well and since Ron Paul is the only one who addressed these issues you will get much more of the same come November.

        • http://katrael.wordpress.com Katrael

          It’s time to lock all of our criminal corporate politicians up and throw away the key and start over with fresh ones that know that we are watching them. The fresh ones need to be elected according to our original constitution and not the corporate bast$$ that we now have.

    • John

      Everyone can be bought, and the people who can’t be bought will be prevented from ever getting on the ballot by the special interests that run this country. You will never get any choice, but to chose from the lesser of two already bought evils.

      • Ron Dix

        AMEN BROTHER Since Satan/followers are Alive & Well our expectations can’t exceed
        what is written in the book of life (bible)

    • RichE

      Revnowwhilewecan,
      You said,” … a candidate who truly represents the people…” Ahh, wouldn’t that be a socialist? In that “society” is the root word of “socialism” and society is a group of persons with a common purpose; therefore a system that truly represents the people is “Socialism”. Until the controlled control there will be no change.
      The change, IMO, should be replacing the word, “represents” with, “does the bidding of” but, how does one insure the ‘hired help’ is preforming? That, IMO, is the problem. There isn’t a way for the ‘people’ to insure the performance of their representative(s). Voting every four years to me is like hiring someone to clean my warehouse and only checking on them every four years. I doubt if my warehouse would be clean.

    • OB1

      I agree with many parts of your post. It is difficult to write on MSM blog posts. I always have to wait for a moderator to approve my pos regardless of wither it is objective, fact filled or not. My biggest concern is that the elites know that the internet has replaced them in their MSM control. Six corporations now own most MSM outlets. How would we continue to have freedom of speech if the elites shut down cell phones, satellite connections, TV and more like Iran did after the fraudulent election of Imadinnerjacket in the previous election when the majority of the country (under 36 by the way) voted for Mosavi and second place Mehedi Karubi? The people of all ages peacefully took to the streets in peaceful protect and were beaten, killed and arrested? Obama virtually said nor did nothing in support of the Persian people who are NOT Arab. Clinton, very little. Sick and pathetic. They were not armed. If Hillary Clinton succeeds in pushing the UN small arms treaty this summer, we are all in deep $***t. How would you communicate with friends and associates if you lost your cell phone and internet today? The elites know this.

      • Kate8

        OB1 – The move toward disarming the US is already underway. The guv has contracted to buy up all of the ammo, so NONE is available to the citizenry.

        Obama is also telling foreign leaders to hold off on action until after “he wins the next election”, when he’ll “have a lot more flexibility”.

        Sound like a foregone conclusion?

        It won’t matter how we vote.

      • OB1

        You are right Kat. BTW, I’ve really missed your posts. So many are doing the best we can. We are not prepared. However, there re some things that still can be done. I am sincerely going to try and post this because I do believe that many here are not aware of the UN small arms treaty that Hillary Clinton is getting through the UN (the United Not of or with God): National Association of Gun Rights,

        But looking at previous versions of the UN Small Arms Treaty, you and I can get a good idea of what’s likely in the works.

        If passed by the UN and ratified by the U.S. Senate, the UN Small Arms Treaty would almost certainly FORCE the U.S. to:

        *** Enact tougher licensing requirements, making law-abiding Americans cut through even more bureaucratic red tape just to own a firearm legally;

        *** CONFISCATE and DESTROY ALL “unauthorized” civilian firearms (all firearms owned by the government are excluded, of course);

        *** BAN the trade, sale and private ownership of ALL semi-automatic weapons;

        *** Create an INTERNATIONAL gun registry, setting the stage for full-scale gun CONFISCATION.
        I’m sure I don’t have to tell you that this is NOT a fight we can afford to lose.

        Ever since its founding 65 years ago, the United Nations has been hell-bent on bringing the United States to its knees.

        To the petty dictators and one-world socialists who control the UN, the United States of America isn’t a “shining city on a hill” — it’s an affront to their grand designs for the globe.

        These anti-gun globalists know that so long as Americans remain free to make our own decisions without being bossed around by big government bureaucrats, they’ll NEVER be able to seize the worldwide power they crave.

        And the UN’s apologists also know the most effective way to finally strip you and me of ALL our freedoms would be to DESTROY our gun rights.

        That’s why I was so glad to hear that the National Association for Gun Rights is leading the fight to stop this assault on our Constitution!

        Supported by Rand Paul. Also, Ron Paul and Michelle Bachmann were the only two Republican candidates to return their National Gun Rights support and survey:

        http://paracom.paramountcommunication.com/hostedemail/email.htm?CID=11545269308&ch=1803F6C2CB1262BF76175A82ED361F2B&h=33261def22980bc3e231045d2c36db9c&ei=sdaeTG8cN

        • http://katrael.wordpress.com Katrael

          We shouldn’t even have to register for a gun or to register any firearm as that will be the tool the evil empire needs to confiscate them from us. They will know you have it and I believe that history will show that evil governments always want to take away your ability to defend yourself before they take the final steps to fully subjugate the people.

      • http://katrael.wordpress.com Katrael

        Hilary Clinton is the Queen of the forked one with horns

  • Marc

    It is about time to get rid of the existing government and for the people of this country create a new government for the people. Read the Declaration of Independence. That when any form of government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government and so on. Action speaks louder than words. All we are doning now is crying. BOOHOO!

    • TIME

      Marc,

      We have a “De Facto” Corporation, its not really a true government, its more a form of “lite Dictatorship.”

      Yes, we do infact need to remove this blood sucking monster that was created in 1860 – 1871. But to do that we need many more Americans on the People Farm to wake up and understand we are just a “People Farm” who produce money for these Blood Sucking Monsters to enslave us.

      Saddly – we do all this by our very consent, and yet even more so sad is its all by way of our ignorance of the Truth. Many of us are into Material things, thus these Monsters keep applying the Material junk to obscure the TRUTH, all the while pumping us full of divides chocked full of hate and outright rhetoric to keep us fighting with each other.

      Peace and Love

      • OB1

        TIME, reminds me of the CS Lewis books, “The Chronicals of Narnia”. One of the children, when entering the New Worl (Narnia) through the wardrobe, meets the witch, the ice queen. She gives him a confection called Turkish Delight”. The author was brilliant and worte these “children’s stores” during the rise of the NAZI’s and WWII. (Never mention the war of that time BTW). Anyway, Edmond becomes addicted to the feeling of peace3 and pwer and smarts the the Turkish Delight gives him…he becomes addicted..Perhaps your should consider ordering the Chronicles of Narnia by CS Lewis as well as my personal favote: The Science Fiction Chronicles: “Out of the Silent Planet”, “Perilandra”, and That Hideous Strength. They are all available at this time from Alibris dot com. CS Lewis was a scholar of languages as well as history:

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZS3thuSHUYg

        Thank you Bob, for another excellent topic. , well written, and inspirational. We all so different, but so much alike in so many ways. Thank you for keeping me on here for a little more than a year. I have learned so much from you as well as your posters. I don’t quite know what to say.

    • http://www.facebook.com/rstsummers Rebecca Turley-Summers

      The founding fathers expected the country to be recreated every 50 years to escape the creation of tyranny.

      • Irishbulldog

        The tree of liberty, from time to time, must be watered, with the blood of patriots and tyrants. …Thomas Jefferson

      • Nadzieja Batki

        Where did you come up with this nonsense?
        Who would be doing this recreating?

    • DaveH

      It is a timeless dilemma, Marc. Revolution would do no good because the majority of people aren’t educated in the concepts of Freedom and, no matter which side won, we would probably end up being no better off than before the bloodshed.
      And if the majority of people were educated in the concepts of Freedom, we wouldn’t need a revolution. The Pen is Mightier than the Sword.
      http://mises.org/daily/5363/The-Next-American-Revolution-Wont-Be-Like-the-First

      • http://gravatar.com/hattles JeffH

        Sad but true!

      • Bill Roth

        True words DaveH. Sadly I spent my younger years working umteen hrs. a day and paid little attention. That changed when I retired and became aware of the path we were on. I too picked up the pen and do a blog for my local paper (http://blog.myplainview.com/billroth). Our time is short to change direction.

      • OB1

        DaveH, I appreciate you so much. Please see my above posts, when you have time.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001006733043 Bob Compton

    What a spot-on description of Washington! Tazio2013 also added some great descriptors. All of these of course completely describe obama, pelosi and reid (no capitals), but also most of the democrats and the gop machine, too. America is in woeful straits. The fox is guarding the hen-house, and has the farmer brain-washed into thinking he is the only one who can save the chickens. If obama wins in November, this could very well be our last election as a free country.

    • TIME

      Bob,

      1+1= 1- in the CITY STATE of the District of Columbia. There has not been a D or R party since 1860.

      Peace and Love

    • Raggs

      If oblama see’s that he will not win the election there will not be one.
      I know damm well he will come up with some sort of false flag event in order to suspend the election and of cource his minion demoncrats are all in for it. Not to mention they already have millions of fraudulant ballots just in case there is an election.

      • John

        I don’t think so, for one simple reason, the GOP nominee is bought for and is paid for by the same people that direct Obama. This whole election is nothing but a dog and pony show for the masses. the special interests who run this country and who determine the direction of this country will get their way independent of who is in the WH. That is why I believe that the statements that any of the presidents will just suspend the constitution to stay in power are baseless. Why would they? They have received and will receive their payoff and really don’t care about what happens next.

      • STEVE E.

        I have been stating to my friends the same thing for the past three years: Obama will cancel the elections. Perhaps he may use the OWS useful idiots to cause problems and use that to cancel the elections.

    • http://www.facebook.com/rstsummers Rebecca Turley-Summers

      Bob, my friend, you are looking in the wrong place for your enemies.

      • eddie47d

        So is Raggs. Since an important trait of a sociopath is exploiting others then they are also within the walls of Wall Street which is the third side that was left out. Greed and Aggrandizement is one of their trademarks and they aren’t afraid to flaunt it. They even play the Pied Piper in luring others into their web of deceit to legitimize their schemes.

      • Ricksfaith

        I read a lot of these comments posted in these forums or whatever and am amazed how many people that don’t know who the true enemy is. These people in DC are just their minions to do their dirty work. The true supposed leadership of this country isn’t in this country. The true terrorist are not the Islamic nations but rather are enemies of the government that is outside of this nation, too. Only a very few of you know whom I am talking about. Only a few of you know the truth while the rest have already taken the mark and don’t know it thus you unwittingly support this outside government. It took control of our country almost a hundred years ago. The US gov. is now an incorporated entity. That entity controls most of all the money in the world and thus we as a so-called free people everywhere.

  • Alice Steinbacher

    Dear Bob,
    This is an excellent article and long overdue. Americans were raised to trust and accept our Freedoms and not be skeptical. That idea is OVER. Your artilce tells it like it is and we have been asleep at the switch. WAKE UP AMERICA, IT’S TIME TO TAKE BACK YOUR COUNTRY. WE CAN NO LONG TRUST, BE AWARE AND CONSCIOUS OF WHAT IS TAKING PLACE RIGHT BEFORE YOUR EYES. KRUSCHEVE(SP) SAID IT A LONG TIME AGO. “YOU WILL NOT EVEN KNOW WHAT IS HAPPENING AND WE WILL TAKE OVER YOUR COUNTRY” This quote it the essence of my recollection, it may not be accurate.

    ASteinbacher

  • Henry Ledbetter

    AMEN TO THE TRUTH. National security and border control should be the reason for the existence of a federal government and yet we now find ourselves in the midst of a nanny state that tries to controls every aspect of our lives. If you slop a pig long enough he becomes addicted to it and will lie in the wallow rather than graze on the plants that would be best for him. I remember writing and standing against the faith based initiative that was enacted under GWB and could visualize the harm it would not only do to government but the faith based organizations that would participate in it. It has brought about a dependance on government rather than God and has corrupted the moral’s of those that participate in it. WAKE UP CHURCH AND REPENT OF THIS EVIL..

  • Don Sanborn

    Most dont realis that they dont work for use they are working for them selfs and friends. We have lost are freedom. You can no longer speak your mind. You can no longer say to a cop in my feeling you are a ass you will get taken to jail. If your in the south and say a slang ni you can go to jail but on the other hand they can say anything they whant and not go to jail. We need to get rid of all the crap laws and go back to the countitution. We are headed to a revolution if we do not come to geather as a nation. The gov says every one the same then why do you have to put age race on apps? I guest hope for my kids sake that it changes. War is bad we do not need it. But look at how every thing is going. Look back to the thirtys in germany we are there. Are cops arnt there yet but they are getting closer. If we dont do something real soon it will tip. They we will be at war here again!!!! We do not need to be told what to do. But most like being sheep. What going to hapen if 2012 is right? I guest hope im wrouge. We need to come to geather as one. We need to get rid of the proabistion of drugs make legal let the gove sell them. Yes lot would die but in the long run we save money and help the poor in other countreys. And would end a lot of risk of tererist. Look at asterdam they crime rate whent down catts64 @live.com

  • DSW

    SO TRUE! I can even name names, to whom these “symptoms” apply! RIGHT ON THE MONEY!

  • Scott in SC

    Bob Livingston,
    I agree the sociopaths are in control. And while all the wealthy are not sociopaths, everybody in the C-suite of corporate America is. But you will find them everywhere. 1 out of 25 people (4%) are sociopaths. 1 out of 8 sociopaths (1 out of 200 people) are psychopaths. the latter being a subset of sociopaths not content to just destroy others but have a bloodlust and actually want to kill others. Your list is an accurate descrition but fails to make clear that he is sometimes a she. Particularly dangerous as some people refuse to believe that some women also possess these characteristics.
    I am constantly amazed at how gullible most people are and will happily be manipulated to satisfy these monsters who live to control others.

  • http://www.facebook.com/rstsummers Rebecca Turley-Summers

    I’m very interested to read these newsletters which I agree with 99%. The reason for the 99% is, the 1% I disagree with. I am a “Progressive” of sorts. I believe in the Constitution, free markets, and personal freedoms, but I can’t see how Progressives are responsible for our current problems. The transfer of wealth is from poor people to the rich over the last three decades, and they certainly didn’t do that. The destruction of our liberties is a direct result of the Patriot Act and its spawn and the corporatization of our democracy which is thanks to conservative SupCt justices turning corporations into people and money into speech. The failure of our educational system has more to do with poverty than teachers. We are not interested in taking your guns, the police state is and we certainly are not responsible for that (we’d let half the people out of prison because they shouldn’t be there to begin with. The proliferation of the prison-industrial complex has foisted a host of ridiculous laws that criminalize non-violent, victomless behavior in order to keep more people in prison. More poor minority people. Does that sound like a Progressive agenda?) And, turning our police into a local army complete with military hardware and training to wage war on our population is definitely not a Progressive agenda. Even Adam Smith, in the Wealth of Nations, the foundation of our free market system, was more concerned with the public safety net required to keep them afloat than their actual existence. Too bad most of our “economists” never actually read his work, they stopped at the part about competition being good and missed the part about unbridled, i.e. unregulated capitalism being bad. I have been a small business woman for 40 years and I have both an MBA and a law degree to rely on. Stop beating up on the wrong people, we’re not your enemy.

    I could go on, and on. And, I can document everything I have said. So, I do not get how Progressives are the culprits. Can someone enlighten me, but be prepared to have your ideas soundly refuted.

    • Crystal

      “Prepare to have your ideas refuted”, well that sounds like a shifty lawyer to me. Your credentials are not impressive to me, and lawyers are ALL illegally licensed liars ! You would think (being as smart as you claim), that no one else would have to explain to you what a progressive is , and what their agenda is. Here are a few things about progressive’s… Pro eugenics(haha), long history of racial bias(no !), Red-baiting, witch hunts, and censorship. I could go on and on too. So, if you want to be a “progressive”, you better spend your time researching it’s history, not challenging your fellow Americans to an argument about why it’s bad. Little home grown fascists are what progressive’s become. Give me a break lawdog.

      • http://www.facebook.com/rstsummers Rebecca Turley-Summers

        I’m not a lawyer, I got a law degree to fight their corrupt system. I’m not siting my credentials for any reason but to indicate that I have a balanced background. I believe in business and have been a business woman for 40 years. I an active in political causes all across the board. I just want people to look around with open minds and see where the real enemies are. Don’t fix the wrong things. That how we got here.

      • http://www.facebook.com/rstsummers Rebecca Turley-Summers

        Um, sorry but that is not what a progressive is. They believe in the constitution. freedom, equality, free markets, and all your other rights as a citizen. You are describing a fascist. Progressives want to make your lot in life exactly what you want it to be, so long as it does not infringe on anyone else’s life. We want to resurrect the Constitution and the Bill of Rights and the Declaration of Independence for everyone by moving forward in the world, not backward. What they don’t believe in is stealing from the poor to pay the rich and then pulling the rug out from under the poor; destroying our air and water and leaving our children and grandchildren with a decimated planet; letting corporations and the rich escape paying their taxes; using your tax dollars to pad the coffers of corporations; enforcing Evangelical Christianity as the state religion; putting poor people in jail for being poor and sick people in jail for being sick; letting big insurance companies and drug companies rip us off and make us sicker, and so much more. Eugenics? That’s a right-wing fascist, Nazi idea and the exact opposite of what progressives stand for. BTW conservative means someone who is afraid of change.

      • George E

        Rebecca,

        Most of the philosophies stated in your post are generally agreed-to and aspired-to by everyone, regardless whether left or right. What we don’t agree with is the notion that Progressives are on the right side of these issues while Conservatives are on the wrong side. Each have different approaches to managing these problems. Progressives typically want the federal government to legislate and regulate our lives to force us into compliance with their specific goals and timelines, while Conservatives want to leave many of these decisions and actions to local entities, individuals, and markets.

        Conservatives are not afraid of change so long as the change is consistent within the terms of the Constitution guided by the morals handed down by our Judeo/Christian values. Admittedly, holding to that standard would drastically slow down the number of new legislation and regulations coming therefrom. We, conservatives, think this would be a good thing for our country.

        BTW, I don’t agree that the Nazis’ were a “right-wing” political organization. What did they ever do that left authority to individuals and markets? Nothing that I know of. I’d say they were much more aligned with left-winged political ideals that subscribe to the philosophy of a strong central government..

      • oh oh

        Rebecca, you’re embarrassing yourself whether you know it or not. Please study a little more. This is just a taste, but it should help:

        http://www.freedomlessons.net/freedom4.html

    • Crystal

      You must have gone to one of the big ” Ivy League ” schools that tout communism. Your ideology of “progressive thinking” is on the same lines. You can tell your a lawyer because when presented with a sound definition, you start to squirm. “Eugenics is a right wing, fascist nazi idea ” ? Wow, you really don’t know what the hell you are talking about lady. Like I said, “Lawyers have illegal licenses to practice the art of lieing”. I don’t care how long you have been in business, you are not of sound mind. You refuse to even correct yourself when you are clearly wrong. Go research “Progressive thinking”, and stop making yourself look so ignorant.

    • DaveH

      Methinks, Rebecca, that you don’t understand what a Progressive is. This article should help:
      http://www.lewrockwell.com/rothbard/rothbard28.html

      • DaveH

        And Progressives certainly are NOT Constitutionalists. They advocate the Constitution only in the sense that they have twisted and manipulated its words to suit their own controlling purposes.
        Bottom Line — The Progressives want to force their particular brand of morality, and choice on the rest of the citizens through Big Government.

  • http://bjwholmes@verizon.net B.Holmes

    Those who think the socialism is progress might want to find an example somewhere.
    J. Edgar Hoover wrote a long time ago that the evil ones would take over our universities and undermine religion, to win. Both have happened. A few years ago it seemed wise to attack university presidents who allowed evil such as Al Gore, Bill Ayers, Ward Churchill, and especially Obummer to teach…teach what? But it has become evident that the appointments are political. No surprise. Imagine a class of Constitutional Law taught by Obummer.

    • Crystal

      Right on the money, B. Holmes. Obummer wouldn’t know how to teach Constitutionality, but he can sure bow, and chum it up with Dictators, and Communists. What a wretched little treasonous traitor.

    • eddie47d

      What do you call the Conservatives who exploit the Capitalist system for personal gain and then call it just? Do you question their piles of money or do you assume it’s all from normal behavior. We have all been had by the manipulators and they come in all shapes and sizes.

      • http://gravatar.com/hattles JeffH

        eddie says “What do you call the Conservatives who exploit the Capitalist system for personal gain and then call it just?”

        Which conservative are you speaking of eddie or are you just sayin’ it because you can? As usual you spew a few sentances out, with absolutley no clue of what you speak. Code words? Yes! Liberal talking points? Yes! Say anything to strike back at your enemy? Yes

        After 2+ years you haven’t learned a thing here.
        A horse can be led to water but that doesn’t mean he’ll drink.

    • http://www.facebook.com/rstsummers Rebecca Turley-Summers

      Oh please! J Edgar was a gay (I don’t care) conspiracy theorist whose only objective was to discredit people who challenged the government. He wanted you to believe that real constitutional scholars were subversives. Well, I’m rather certain that “When in the course of human events….” would be seen as a subversive document now just as it was by the English. So by that standard, if you are standing up for the Declaration and Constitution I guess you are a subversive. If so, we should join their ranks not shun them. You are falling right into the trap set for you by your real enemies.

      • DaveH

        So far from your comments, Rebecca, I’ve gotten the strong sense that you are quite the double-speaker.
        Why does it seem like whenever Flashman is not around, there is some other verbose double-speaker to take his place? Seems mighty fishy to me.

      • Karolyn

        But, Dave, Flashman is around. Why is it you and Jeff always think that way? There are an awful lot of people who think differently. They can’t find this blog like everybody else has? I’m always especially intrigued because these “doppelgangers” don’t even write in the same style as Flashy.

      • http://gravatar.com/hattles JeffH

        Karolyn, perhaps you should pay a little more attention…DaveH ain’t sayin’ it’s flashy, what he’s sayin’ is, and correct me if I missed something here, that when flashy’s away another “newbie unknown” shows up using the same method of double speak. Maybe they’re employed by the same group, paid to dissent the blog? Kinda funny that flashy is ripped apart, proven to be wrong and a liar and discredited daily but always comes back for more of the same.
        Is it real or is it Memorex?

      • Nadzieja Batki

        If you don’t care what J E H was why did you bring it up?

      • DaveH

        Because she’s (or he’s) a Progressive, Nadzieja, and they will say whatever they think will work for them in their manipulative efforts.

  • Kemp

    Good post Bob.
    But how do we control the people that make promises to conduct themeselves for the betterment of the country and the people to get elected untill they take the oath and then do an about face and put the screws to the common people who elected them??
    They set their own saleries and benifetsand retierment programs as they want.
    They pass laws without reading the bills and accept BRIBES to vote a certian way,with no regard as to how it effects the people they are repersenting.
    As it stands right now we have no way to correct the system. All we have is a vote and that system is corrupted to a point where its useless.
    They write a bill that is good for the contry then add on some BS they want,which has nothing to do with the origenal subject, so to get the good they pass the BS (great system).

    • http://www.facebook.com/rstsummers Rebecca Turley-Summers

      Join the Wolf Pack or any other organization working to change the Constitution to give the power back to the people.

      • George E

        Rebecca,

        Would you say that giving power to the central government is the way to give power to the people? I wouldn’t.

      • Nadzieja Batki

        Groups can be infiltrated and their purpose diverted.

      • DaveH

        A girl advocating for people to join a Wolf Pack?
        Who leads Wolf Packs? The alpha male of course.
        I think her (or his) comment says a lot about where Rebecca is coming from.
        We’re looking for Freedom here, Rebecca, not an Alpha Male to make our life choices for us.

  • John Gentry

    You are right TJ, both parties have allowed it because this Progressive idiology is well entrenched in both the Democrat and Republican parties.

    • http://www.facebook.com/rstsummers Rebecca Turley-Summers

      John, please define the terms Conservative and Progressive for us. It seems to me you have it wrong.

      • Raggs

        Rebecca.
        Just so I will know where you stand….. Do you believe that oblama-care should be upheld by the supreme court?

      • Flashy

        Raggs….the odds are 50/50 the Court will decide the case this year or next. It may be 2015 before they issue a decision. There was an article yesterday in the Washington Post where the Court asked for side arguments on whether the Anti-Injunction Act of 1897 applies. i found a similar article (but not as expansive) on CNN.com

        http://www.cnn.com/2012/03/26/justice/scotus-health-care/index.html

      • http://www.facebook.com/rstsummers Rebecca Turley-Summers

        Well sorry I have to reply to myself but the nice note I tried to leave in answer to the Obamacare question disappeared before I posted it and the reply button disappeared as well. So, in answer to your question do I believe the SupCt should uphold the law.
        I believe, as did the Heritage Society and their Republican colleagues who wrote the law that our society is faced with only two choices: single payer or everybody participates free market. I agree with the majority of conservative constitutional scholars and 50% of the public that it is constitutional under the commerce clause and that overturning it will raise health care costs even further and cover even less people, leaving more bills to be paid by the taxpayers. Are you aware that the lead plaintiff in the suit against the law just declared bankruptcy to avoid paying her family’s medical bills, thus leaving them to us. What I think is that it is very sad that we have come to this point where our only fiscally responsible and economically feasible way forward is to make everybody participate.
        We have the most expensive and least effective healthcare system in the developed world. If someone has a better idea please step forward. Everybody has to participate. Is the way it’s happening good, not particularly but the only alternative is extending Medicare to everybody and letting them choose their supplemental.

      • Raggs

        Rebecca Turley-Summers says:
        March 26, 2012 at 9:18 am
        Um, sorry but that is not what a progressive is. They believe in the constitution. freedom, equality, free markets, and all your other rights as a citizen.

        You are a HYPOCRITE…
        You have proven that a progressive is nothing more than liar..

      • Raggs

        And just to prove HOW BIG of a liar you are.
        http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/03/as-health-care-laws-trial-approaches-two-thirds-say-ditch-individual-mandate/

        I do not watch or read ABC however since you are a “progressive” I figure that it is the only news sorce you watch…

      • DaveH

        Some reason to offset Rebecca’s double-speak:
        http://mises.org/daily/3643

        Big Government IS the Problem, NOT the Solution.

      • Nadzieja Batki

        You are a time waster. You already know what the definitions are.

  • Sirian

    Bob,
    A very good article – agree and understand across the board. If only more people were willing to look at it and actually think about it in this manner. Oh yes, put on your flak jacket – Flashy will probably pounce on this with hellfire and brimstone. Just saying :)

    • Flashy

      Sirian….how wrong you are. As I read Bob’s emotional sermon, I laughed until tears rolled down my cheeks, but admired the style and the comedy tone. if I thought he was serious in any of it, and wrote it with another intent other than rile the usual gang and get some action going, it would be different.

      • Raggs

        Flushy… Your name should have topped this article.

      • Crystal

        You must be Mr. Rebecca Turley-Summers ! Stupid hyphenated names. Guess she was afraid of loosing her identity, or was that you ?

      • DaveH

        She is definitely a Flashman clone.
        Question, Flashman — Why do you continue to spread your manure here when most of the readers know that you have no credibility?
        You lie. You slander. You condone theft. You condone violence against those you disagree with. You plagiarize. You have assumed multiple personalities.
        Why in the world do you think you’d have any credibility on this board, Flashman?

      • Crystal

        DaveH: Are you talking to me ? Did you bring me here ? Did you call my name ? Hahaha… Answer- what gives you credibility ? Who died and made you mister-know-it-all ? Where the hell do you get off saying I support violence, theft, slander, and that I am a liar ? Who did I slander ? What did I lie about ? Who do I want to hurt ? Answer : I don’t support violence, theft, slander or lies. You are just another truth “hater”, and I am not afraid of you, or your words. Your opinion of me means about as much as a two bit whore… You have committed slander yourself…

      • Crystal

        BTW, DaveH, who did I plagiarize ?

      • http://gravatar.com/hattles JeffH

        Crystal, think you need to re-read DaveH’s post…and who it is directed at.

      • Crystal

        Jeff, If I was wrong, I apologize to DaveH. His comment was under one of mine, so I thought he was addressing me.

      • DaveH

        Put down the amphetamines, Crystal.
        I thought from your comment — “You must be Mr. Rebecca Turley-Summers ! Stupid hyphenated names. Guess she was afraid of loosing her identity, or was that you?” —
        that you were putting Rebecca and Flashman together.
        So, I was merely supporting you. My bad.

      • Crystal

        DaveH: I was putting them together; however I don’t do amphetamines, but maybe I had too much coffee this a.m. ! Sorry none the less, didn’t mean to bark so loud.

    • Flashy

      “He usually has promiscuous sexual behavior.”

      Errr….If I get rid of the Brunette and the Blonde, and keep the list under 10….do I escape this tag? Freud would have a lot to say about this one ….

      • Crystal

        Err… nobody listens to Freud anymore ! We have since been enlightened about all these fraudulent, sick, psychopaths. Doesn’t surprise me that your still fawning over what his thoughts may be.

      • DaveH

        Speaking of Sociopaths.

      • DaveH

        Crystal,
        Don’t hit me, I was talking about Flashman.

      • Crystal

        DaveH: I would never hit you, but I did grow up with 5 brothers !

    • Sirian

      Yep, as expected. Warned you. . . :)

      • OB1

        DaveH. I strongly recommend CS Lesis’s “Screwtape Letters”. It seems to me that you are the brunt of many of the flash attacks. I do appreciate all you have courageously shared with all of us. Please order the book. When dealing with multiple personalities of the same person(s):

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TdBNimP7eaw

      • DaveH

        The fact that the Liberals/Progressives personally attack me, OB1, proves that I’m on to something they don’t want revealed to others.

  • BigBadJohn

    “So you will know, in closing, we profile the sociopath:

    He has glibness and superficial charm.
    He is manipulative and cunning. Under his feigned charm, he is covertly hostile and domineering.
    He has a grandiose sense of self.
    He is a pathological liar.
    He has no remorse, shame or guilt.
    He has shallow emotions.
    He has incapacity for love.
    He is not concerned about how many lives he wrecks.
    He usually has promiscuous sexual behavior.
    He has a poor work ethic but is a master of exploiting others.
    He has versatility and will change his image quickly to avoid prosecution.
    He is contemptuous of anyone who understands them, like this writer.
    He thinks only of his own immediate gratification.”

    This applies not just to politicians but to every CEO of any businesses that I have ever known, met or had the misfortune of working under! So the way I see it, we are between a rock and a hard place. You can not trust businessmen (large corporations)and you can not trust the people we elect to regulate them.

    • Scott in SC

      I agree 100%. I mentioned it in my previous post on this thread. Sadly, on this site a comment like this is often seen as a libtard anti-capitalist demonizing the rich statement. Of course nothing could be further from the truth, but you’d have a hard time convincing many who are sure the wealthiest and most powerful are the most moral, hardest working, and brightest.

      • George E

        Really? I’m getting exactly the opposite impression reading through many of these posts.

    • DaveH

      BigBad says — “You can not trust businessmen (large corporations)and you can not trust the people we elect to regulate them”.
      The difference, John? We don’t have to do business with the businessmen. We have no choice with Government.

      • John

        DaveH,

        People always have a choice, nobody forces them to live where they don’t want to live. If they don’t like the government,they can try to either change it or they have the choice move to a different country, this is not E-Germany, N-Korea or the Gaza Strip where they are forced to stay and prevented from leaving if they don’t like the government. The choice is to simply to move. Same choice that people have that don’t want to deal with their local business man, the corporations, or robber barons. They can always move to a different country or move to a remote island in the South Pacific and build their own utopian society with a government that does everything they desire.

      • BigBadJohn

        Dave, You DO have a choice in government – IF you can get away from “My party good – Your party bad.”
        OR
        “If you don’t believe MY rhetoric you must be a libtard…..”

        As long as people vote party lines it will be constant tug of war over nothing. My suggestion, print out a list of your candidates voting record, cover the party tag and make a selection based on how they voted on things that matter to you.

        I live in the most liberal city in North Carolina and that has been one of my biggest complaints. My congressman is democrat but EVERY issue that I have written him about he has ALWAYS been on the right side of the issue. The Two senators, one democrat one republican, of this great state, have been on the WRONG side of every issue. However, the republican has NEVER even responded to anything that I have written to him. Non responsive government official……..you know how I am voting!

      • DaveH

        BigBad,
        Waiting 4 years to maybe get relief is not what I’d call a choice.
        For instance, Directv jerked me around, so I switched to Dish — the next day. Now that’s the kind of choice I’m talking about.

      • DaveH

        Regular John,
        I sure do get tired of your inane statements. Moving to other countries away from people you love is hardly what I’d call choice. I suppose you’d tell a girl who had been raped that she just needed to stay home where she would be safe.
        For you to compare Government’s Force with the voluntary transactions in the Marketplace is just beyond ignorant.

    • http://loboviejo.wordpress.com loboviejo

      While you cannot trust the elected to regulate bad businessmen, you might consider a neutral, unbiased, and extremely harsh regulator–The Market. Bear Stearns exists because the Fed forced Morgan to pay a “fair” rate to acquire Bear rather than a cents-on-the dollar rate for access. If Freddy and Fannie had been subject to the market they would have disappeared long ago. You will find advocacy of regulation in crony capitalism by the favored to shut out competition.

  • Patrioticnut

    Very good article. Now if you could just come up with a viable solution. IMHO the only way we are going to fix any of this, short an armed revolution, is to start with our local and state governments. We need to elect “regular” people into these offices, people who want to serve simply to correct the mess we have now. Hard to find people like that who will take on the huge challenge but that is what must be done. If we find that we cannot promote them to the federal level and effect change then will come the time for secession. We can rebuild our country but we cannot do it from the top down as most a trying to do, we must go bottom up.

    • OB1

      The problem is the money and sphere of influence (unless we create another one….) Most of the candidates im ny are come from the school board and most have worked to support the teachers union). Look up for yourself exactly where Lyndon Johnson came from?????? Duuuhhhhhh…..

  • John

    Bob wrote: On one side is the great mass of basically honest people, then there is government.
    All governments by nature attract greedy and parasitic people. In short, these are people who have the born mentality to live off of other people.

    Bob,

    Although I do agree with your overall article, I believe you need to think this over a bid.
    Our Military men and women are federal government employees, and although I would consider people joining short sighted idealistic, brainwashed, and misguided, I would not consider them greedy parasitic people who have a born in mentality to live of other people.

    • Patrioticnut

      I as a veteran take offense to your comments in regards to our military. You may not agree with the assignments they are given but do not denigrate them as a whole. There are those of us who served out of our patriotic felt duty to protect your right to spew this type of nonsense and there will be even more.

      • John

        What part do you find offensive?. Do you agree with Bobs assertion that our military men are parasites and psychopaths? After all, they ARE federal employees, it is a profession that is paid for with our taxes and thus all of them fall under Bob’s broad brush strokes.

      • DaveH

        You’re a Liar, John.
        Bob did not assert that “our military men are parasites and psychopaths”.
        In fact, most of them are just pawns, like most of the citizens are.
        Here, in fact, is a story about one pawn who woke to reality:
        http://www.dvmx.com/pat_tillman_death.html

      • John

        Dave, I am a liar? Do you lack ready comprehension?

        Bob made a generalization and a statement about ALL government employees… this includes but is not limited to (simply because he did not made exceptions) all local government employees, state employees, and federal employees. The military personal are government employees. So, read again what Bob said and this time, try to comprehend what the statement means for ALL government employees ….

      • OB1

        John, you are unequivocally lying. Don’t even attempt to go there here.

    • http://boblivingstonpl.wordpress.com Bob Livingston

      Dear John,

      The context makes quite clear to whom I’m referring. Your question implies you are either ignorant or you have ulterior motives.

      Best wishes,
      Bob

      • http://gravatar.com/hattles JeffH

        …or both… :)

      • John

        Dear Bob,
        Not really, You started out talking about ALL government employees and made general statements about all of them.
        Next you went on to a subset of government employees..

        Nobody who wants to be taken serious should make this type of broad sweeping statements and then be surprised if someone calls him on it.

        • http://boblivingstonpl.wordpress.com Bob Livingston

          Dear John,

          You must reread the article. Your ignorance is showing.

          Best wishes,
          Bob

      • John

        Jeff, I see you have had a look into the mirror…..

      • http://gravatar.com/hattles JeffH

        John, every day and neither ignorance or ulterior motive stares back at me. Good to see you’re staying abreast of Alinsky’s ideology though.

  • jerry

    Government attract Sadomasochists: Sadomasaochists love, adore obey and worship those with power over them. They hate, despise and wish to torture those they have power over. You and I.

    • Flashy

      Not really Jerry…doesn’t everyone like leather?

      • OB1

        Received your paycheck yet……huh….Flashy? Good luck to you. The US government is broke. Ohhhhhhhh…..poor Flash..whatever shall it do?????

  • http://grandmakaylee.blogspot.com/ Kay Lee

    Conservatives actually come off as people scared of change to the rest of us. I won’t live my life in fear and god know we need change.

    And who is afraid of socialism? I mean looks to me like it would mostly be the misinformed or the wealthy who didn’t want to share… Even if it was good for the majority of people. The money we give our government is meant to make life better for the people. That’s what it’s for. That’s not what it’s currently used for but that’s what it’s mean for.

    Get over your fear and stop spreading your propaganda. You’re not impressing anyone but the choir.

    • Patrioticnut

      WHAT? Do you mean to say that you are publicly announcing that you advocate dumping our system and becoming a socialist country? Study up on socialism. If you take from the producers and give to the non producers to make everything equal how long do you think the producers will continue to produce? What incentive will they have, knowing that whatever they do it will never be enough. Scared of socialism, no, just down right livid that there are people in the U.S. that believe that we should institute it in OUR country.

      • http://www.facebook.com/rstsummers Rebecca Turley-Summers

        You are describing communism not socialism.

      • Flashy

        Rebecca … on this site to many here Reagan was a Socialist almost Commie. I have read several state Barry Goldwater would be a RINO. Even a touch or reason and sanity would be what this site labels as “liberal”

      • DaveH

        Two Progressives sitting on a swing, doing what Progressives do — Misinforming people.

      • http://gravatar.com/hattles JeffH

        flashy says “Rebecca … on this site to many here Reagan was a Socialist almost Commie.”

        Funny, as long as I’ve been around this website(-+3yrs.), I can’t recall the “many” you say have thought that way…a Socialist and a Commie? ROFLMAO! No wonder that you have zero credibility here…you’ll say anything. Hmmm, so will Eddie 47D…sure you two aren’t connected at the hip or related in some way? Just askin”?

      • Flashy

        jeffH…maybe you want to go back and try and speak honestly. i said “a socialist…almost a commie”. And yes, i have read here folks saying Goldwater was a closet liberal.

        Keep spreading the manure…you’re known for it.

      • http://gravatar.com/hattles JeffH

        flashy or can I just start calling you Eddie 47D2 ’cause your on an equal footing with him, especially where truth and credibility are concerned. I read and fully understood what you tried to say, albeit a stretch…as for someone spreading manure here, there’s a reason why you have brown eyes, and it’s not because of your gene pool. FYI, I have beautiful blue eyes in case you were wondering.

      • http://gravatar.com/hattles JeffH

        flashy “And yes, i have read here folks saying Goldwater was a closet liberal.”

        #1 it’s I, not i(<—- pet peeve :) )
        #2 considering I didn't mention Goldwater at all…what's your point in bringing that up as a response to what I said?
        #3 getting a wee bit sensitive?

      • DaveH

        I rarely hear anybody on this website talking about Reagan, except you Flashman.
        You’re the one who is constantly trying to make our comments into a party issue when in fact both major Political Parties are usurping our Freedom.

      • OB1

        Flashy (and others….) this ones for you:

        Socialism invariably leads to the destruction of the (productive) working class, leaving only the ruling and dependent (non-productive) classes and eventually state control of everything. Communism. It is coming to pass as we speak in Europe. We are in danger of it here. Endless entitlements, pensions and declining productivity are collapsing European society. At that point EVERYONE goes hungry. EVERYONE loses their health care. EVERYONE is pressed into servitude because there are no producers left. The whole Marxist/Hegelian search for the non-existent socialist utopia is part of the brainwashing and indoctrination that the followers, the weak and the naive buy into at the University of Wisconsin (same crowd that tried to subvert the duly elected government of Wisconsin by obstruction of the legislative process via mob activity). Civilized people use ballot boxes or serve in office.

        The socialist assertion that profit must be confiscated by a centralized government and distributed to the masses is bad for everyone and a false premise. The profit motive stimulates productivity. PRODUCTIVITY creates capital. Capital is then invested in pursuit of profit. The byproducts of the pursuit of profit are the creation of wealth, innovation, technology and increased standard of living all of which benefit society in the ways that socialists describe having a desire for (as we all do). More people have been lifted out of poverty and near starvation (rising tide) in India and COMMUNIST China over the last 10 years by CAPITALISM than by any other means in human history. Profit and the pursuit of it, provide them with the OPPORTUNITY (not guarantee) to EARN food, housing, health care, energy, etc. You think that all these things are provided for under their economic system but they are not. They have to EARN them. These are not RIGHTS. Morally we have an obligation to VOLUNTARILY share our wealth and good fortune with those that are TRULY NEEDY (via scholarships, hospitals, food banks and other OPPORTUNITIES). Each of us must contribute our time, talent and resources. Don’t lazily and selfishly expect a central government or someone else to do it for you and do not expect the central government to show compassion on your behalf. It will not.

        In terms of the genuinely governmental responsibilities, things like infrastructure, operations of government, defense and regulation ARE governmental responsibilities. Confiscating the ability for INDIVIDUALS to provide their own children with an education, health care, food etc. and giving it to someone else, is NOT a governmental responsibility. As a matter of fact, the whole failed New Deal and Great Society experiments of the Globalist Progressive Elites needs to be challenged constitutionally. EVERYONE should share in the burden of governance equally (as a percentage). Under capitalism nobody is being forced to be an “underclass”. The socialist indoctrination of our “public education” system has convinced the uninformed and the gullible that without the “all powerful” central government you can’t succeed. The TRUTH is that you CAN succeed without a socialist oligarchy dictating every aspect of your life. Choose liberty instead of servitude.

        • RichE

          What does capitalism invariably lead to?

          • rstsummers

            1. The European model is not socialism and is not descending into Communism. Go there and spend some time.

            2 Guaranteed upward mobility, market regulation and a degree of equality between economic classes is a necessary part of a free market economy according the father of the model, Adam Smith. too bad most of our economists didn’t bother to read the whole book. This is not socialism, it is the necessary provisions for a market economy that will survive the development of tyranny by the top or revolution by the bottom.

          • RichE

            I’m not sure your point.

          • rstsummers

            My point is there is no rampant socialism anywhere and there really isn’t any communism either, the’re boogymen. Greece was as close to socialism as you get and they really didn’t have any programs out of line with the rest of the world, they just got screwed by our banks. Australia and New Zealand provide more programs for the population in general and they are among the most robust economies, escaped the banking collapse because they didn’t deregulate, and pay everyone a living wage (25/hr min wage), free medical, free education, everyone has a personal pension plan, and these are the happiest people I’ve ever met

            The complaints I keep hearing about social programs and wealth transfer are just silly. The last three decades we have transferred all our wealth to the top 1% and it wasn’t an accident. It’s time to transfer some of it back. A viable free market economy has to have a level of equality, upward mobility, a safety net for the bottom, and regulation. It will collapse under it’s own weight without it.

          • RichE

            Yes, I agree. It’s kind of funny in a way that there is so much clear hate and fear of something that isn’t clear.

      • 4me2777

        Flashy
        Your comment was strangely interesting in that Reagan did start out as a progressive but back then it was called communist as were many in the actor community. He started reading more conservative literature and found himself agreeing with a more conservative political perspective. This is public knowledge though a quick look at wikipedia only mentions ‘Originally a member of the Democratic Party, his positions began shifting rightward in the late 1950s, and he switched to the Republican Party in 1962′.

        As a young person I was more to the left than I am now, while I find socialism and communism to be beautiful concepts in reality they simply fail to factor in the human faultiness of needing incentive to produce or work, if a human receives the same profit from sitting on their butts as they do working 10 hours a day, they will not think of the people who will eventually do without if they don’t do their part, they think only of not being the one working while others do nothing for the same thing. It is a simple fact that humans can voice the ‘desire’ for a shared communal utopia where everyone provides for everyone, in practice it is not the world of the intellectual dreamers, history has demonstrated that repeatedly. Perhaps I am one of many that exemplify the saying ‘if your under 30 and not a liberal you haven’t a heart- if your over 30 and still a liberal you haven’t a brain’. Being closer to twice 30 than 30 I find myself less enamored with the condition of human possibilities and less innocent in how truly evil the human heart can be.

        If only we could all see that keeping the people arguing over parties left/right positions have little to do with the reality that it’s just to keep us busy not looking at what is real, the great illusion, watch this hand so you do not see what the other hand is doing. Myself, I’m more in the center in my mind any way, I do not want big government, I do not want my individual freedoms sacrificed on the alter of politicians power grabs and the banksters money grabs, They are all in this illusion together and they are the only winners, we the people are the greatest losers if we do not stop and wave away the smoke to see we truly are only fighting among ourselves at their bidding.

    • George E

      Kay Lee,

      I agree we do need change. We need less government interference in our lives and businesses. This would be change I could believe in.

      When you talk about “sharing”, start by asking yourself what “you” would be willing to share with others, not what others should share with you. What’s fair to you is unfair to another person. In any case, when we authorize the government to take from one group of people, they will eventually take from us as well. Government is only interested in gaining power over citizens and businesses. They do that by taking our money and passing regulations over how we live and run our businesses. They start by nibbling around the edges by focuing on small groups until they eventually have power over all of us.

      As far as taxing the rich is concerned, the estimates I’ve heard suggest if tax rates are raised on the wealthy, the government still wouldn’t collect enough money to balance the budget. This means they would still need to cut government spending as well to balance the budget. Also keep in mind that raising taxes on the rich inevitably reduces economic growth since investment will go down. This means still less revenue for the government and fewer jobs and lower wages for workers. It’s simply not worth the risk just to make some people feel like the rich are “paying their fair share”, whatever that is.

  • Angelina

    Isn’t the simplest definition of a sociopath is that one is a person without a conscience? Also, the descriptions above sound just like the personal philosophy expressed by public satanists. As for the politicians y’all are discussing, I personally don’t trust anyone who parties at Bohemian Grove.

  • http://loboviejo.wordpress.com loboviejo

    Politicians ought to employees or servants of the people. They have become servant-idolators of the state–and dependent upon the growth of the state for their life sustenance. Only when the perquisites of office are removed will they either do the will of the people or leave the scene. They will fight tooth and nail to prevent those perquisites from going away.

    There is no reason for members of Congress to have any government funded retirement program–Congress should be a temporary career interruption, not a career. The franking privilege should be a once a year report to their constituents and never within six months of an election. The legislative term should be limited to 90 days a year–the Senate could be remain in a suspended session to be called up electronically in order to ratify (or reject) treaties and appointments, Salary would be prorated.

    Similarly the senior executive service should be a non-career program and salaries should be at the lower end of the market. In fact all government salaries should be adjusted downward to reflect the relationship of government to its citizens.

    The progressive movement (Republican as well as Democrat) was imported from ideas foreign to the republican enlightenment. We need to eliminate all but the essential departments and trim those back to their Constitutional functions.

    • kkflash

      I think you’ve summed it all up nicely!

    • Mimi

      You have summed up the problem beautifully. If only we could see that in this lifetime. I don’t believe it’s likely. Nevertheless, it is comforting to know that some people see issues clearly, without the awful personal attacks on men like George Bush and Dick Cheney. The attacks on President Obama are about his and his administration’s policies, they are not personal. Mr. Obama’s background is a questionable and problematic one, which is valid because we are judged by the company we have kept, and our past positions on issues, not to mention the present people that surround him. These are very important when you vote a man into the presidency. George Bush and Dick Cheney may have faults, but they have been honorable and diligent public servants, trying to protect the United States, which is the government’s primary responsibility. It’s shameful that people are so ignorant and gullible, that they haven’t a clue how difficult it is to do what’s necessary in the face of false, political reporting, that has become the main stream media’s forte.

      • John

        Mimi, gosh you are so brainwashed by the media. Google Bush and Cheney war crimes and you will find out how many countries have actually prosecuted them in absence and why they have canceled trip after trip outside the US for fear of being arrested for war crimes and crimes against humanity. I.M.H.o., this is not over and we may yet see them on trial in front of the international court. I sincerely congratulate Mr. Cheney to his latest successful operation and hope he gets healthy fast. This way if the international community decides to prosecute him, he can’t get out of a trial because of health reasons.

      • DaveH

        So what about Obama’s war crimes, John? Are they only crimes when committed by people you don’t support?

      • OB1

        Agree.

  • http://none Dan Spoonhour

    Our government is a “servant” of the people by their own free will; not our “slavemasters” they seem to have become. The lust for power has overuled their mission to serve honorably.

    They have become “too big for their britches” as the old saying goes and now they must be turned over the lap of the people, they swore an oath to serve, and spanked back into reality. It’s the same old history lesson that must be learned the hard way by those who learn nothing from history.

    A thorough cleansing and removing the clogs in the wheels of freedom, free interprise, and capitalism; the only historically proven system that works, allows the return of the key ingredients that unlocked the door to prosperity and built this great nation. No other system has that kind of power. We are NOT a democracy; we are a Republic! It’s high time we started taking out the trash and clean our house!

    • John

      Hmm, and how do you propose “we” do this? After all, voting doesn’t work, a revolution will utterly devastate and destroy this country and there is a good chance that the result of it will be an even more oppressive government that will NOT be ruled by the existing constitution. After all, nobody can force the victor of this revolution to resurrect the current constitution… it is more likely then not that the victors will write a new constitution, a constitution that will lack the safeguards the current constitution has….

      • http://www.facebook.com/rstsummers Rebecca Turley-Summers

        Get on board with the groups fighting to overturn Citizens United and put power back in the hands of the people (like the right to a national referendum). No need to rewrite it, just a simple amendment, which is what our founders expected to happen every 50 years of so. There are dozens of groups forming a coalition to do this and it is underway all over the country. Look online for the Wolf Pack and other “overturn Citizens United” groups. It’s that or guns in the streets.

      • DaveH

        Just what we need — Mob Rule led by a distant Central Government — The Progressive Dream.
        Most of our Founders were wise enough to know that the further the Seat of Power was from the people — the harder it was to control that Seat of Power. In their wisdom they set up a system of checks and balances, like no other before, in which the main Power rested in bodies of Leaders close to the people, where they could be more easily controlled and less likely to trample the peoples’ Freedom.
        Progressives, like Rebecca, would like to mislead you to believe that things will get better with Mob Rule from a Central Location.

  • Tom Dundee

    RE: Rights existed since the Magna Carta.

    These rights existed centuries before the Magna Carta. While I cannot put a definite date on these rights, more than likely they go back to the Saxons on the continent and they were brought to England in the 500s. This would be the latest possible arrival.

    The Magna Carta, like the US Constitution, did not give people any rights. The Magna Carta listed the rights that people already possessed, and it was a reminder for those in power.

    William the Conquerer was crowned in 1066 and as part of the coronation ceremony William promised to honor the “ancient rights and liberties” of the English people. While he and his descendants did not do such a great job of repecting those ancient rights and liberties, the idea was put forth that monarchs had restrictions and the people had rights.

  • dunce

    People who want to tell other people how to live (what to eat, to drive, what kind of energy to use,what you can do with your own property, who has to much money, who does not have enough, who can go to college, ect.) have a serious character flaw and these are the people that seek political office in both parties from school boards to the highest positions. this seems to include all the democrats and many republicans ,John McCain for example.

  • David

    Ron Paul is the only chance we have to get things right. Civil war will come to America and the heads will roll if & when people find out the the elections are rigged and it does not matter who you vote for but who is counting the votes that counts.

    • George E

      David,

      It looks more like anarchy to me than civil war. Civil war suggests there are two distinct sides which oppose each on specific and understandable grounds. What are the two sides in this case; conservatives, libertarians, and constitutionalist versus liberals, socialists, and communists, or Republicans versus Democrats, or Federalists versus individual rightists, or blacks versus whites, or more-wealthy versus less-wealthy, or rural versus metropolitan, or women versus men, or Northerner versus Southerner, or East/West coasts versus the heartland, or other? Obviously, the lines of separation are not well defined, so civil war is only likely, in my opinion, if one of the small splinter sub-groups takes on the rest of the country. If that happened it would be a short-lived conflict. More likely, I think, is a general coming a part of our culture, history, and sense of allegence to a common cause. This looks more like anarchy to me.

      • Karolyn

        I so totally agree, George. The lines are most certainly NOT clearly drawn. Too many variables.

    • kkflash

      The quote you almost got right was from Josef Stalin, who said, ” The people who cast the votes don’t decide an election, the people who count the votes do.”

      It’s a very telling statement, that I believe is reflective of Stalin’s tyrranical, despotic point of view. It’s also reflective of our current government apparatus, and particularly of Obama’s Constitution-stomping, power-grabbing, narcissistic attitude.

      We need a major government house-cleaning, starting from the top down. The problem is, can we find enough non-sociopaths who are interested in holding all those government offices, when the power of the office is reduced to its properly restricted level?

  • STEVE E.

    It seems to me that there are too many people brainwashed to have a clear understanding of the Constitution, and therefore, they do not have the ability to elect a true constitutionalist (like Ron Paul). It looks like most people either want Obama (socialist) or Romney (Moderate at best). People are either brainwashed by the Socialist propaganda machine, or the GOP Establishment Wholesale Brainwashing machine. I am amused at people who say that the Constitution can be mysteriously INTERPRETATIVE by someone who is wiser than they are, when actually the Constitution can be read at face value and have it’s true meaning expressed without any form of twisted interpretation by anyone with a decent IQ.

  • Robert

    So what do we do as the middle class who are at a point where we are fed up with their BS? I would encourage ‘us’ to NOT vote because we substitute one idiot for another . We also push to change laws that protect us by getting petitions signed. And stop paying taxes unless we have a say as to where our money goes and NO bailouts unless they reinstate protections for us to repay student loans, mortgages and credit cards. In other words, make it easy for us to survive. This country sucks and it is shameful to know we have thieves running it. It was not like this years ago but a new breed of criminals has risen …POLITICIANS.

    • Bert Cundle Sr.

      For Global Ballance: All Countries must be in the 3rd world Catagory! Easer to rule Palpers than Pheros…

    • DaveH

      Certainly don’t vote for the lesser of two evils, Robert. But don’t Vote? What good would that do? The only chance we have to displace the bad with the good is to make informed votes. But first we need to get educated so we can satisfy the “informed” requirement.
      And stop paying Taxes? That would play right into their hands. Those who led the charge would be locked up rapidly. And for what? They don’t even need our tax money. Since our ancestors were ignorant enough to allow a Central Bank to be created and control the issue of our money, the Government can simply have more money printed and tax us the hidden way (inflation).

  • Jaesun

    The true nature government (even our early government) is gaining control over people through violence or the threat of violence. Laws are opinions backed by guns. Americans are not a free people. From birth we are all obligated to support government. There is no choice, and without choice there is no freedom. The only solution to that problem is to abolish government, which by nature is immoral, leading to corruption and greed.

  • scout

    This is a great article Bob. Never have I seen it more clearly stated. You have a great knowledge of the english language. Have you ever considered politics????? Just kidding

  • cindy trew

    Liberal, Republican, Progressive, it doesn’t matter what the name is. President O’Bama has thrown our country down the toilet & its just a matter of time before its all flushed alway. This president is dangerous and needs to be impeached. Too many People are busy watching Kim Kardashian and the Bachelor or the View and are not reading the news to know what is really happening in this country. If they are watching the news and they thing everything is hunky dory with this Pres you can bet they are watching MSNBC and such. I am very afraid for my country. I love the United States and remember saying the Pledge of Allegience every morning before school started. Now I have to watch every word I say because it might offend someone. By thie way, does anyone know if the word Negro is a hate word? I just ask because someone asked me to describe someone lately and I said he was a tall Negro about so many years old. I got such a filthy look that I wondered if I had used hate speech.

  • http://Yahoo Dave6729

    The term Conservative is a farce and everyone knows it..Conservative do not believe in unbalanced budgets, huge Trade imbalances, going to War every 5 minutes with or without cause, using Defense Contracts to ship our Money and the lives of our troops out of the Nation and the Bush Administration, who were called Conservatives were nothing but Robber Barons and Warmongers who went to War for Profit.Reagan started this Nation on a Course of Military Dictatorship and the only Nation that does it better is North Korea! The last Conservative Republican was Eisenhower who warned us about the Presidencies of Reagan and Bush and no one paid any attention…Everytime Romney, Santorum and Gingrich start their Cut taxes on the rich with a deficit caused by cutting taxes on the rich and then call themselves Responsible Conservatives, I want to throw up!

    • http://www.facebook.com/rstsummers Rebecca Turley-Summers

      Amen!

    • kkflash

      The deficit was not caused by cutting taxes on the rich. It was caused by massive growth of government spending until it reached it’s current level of 44% of GDP. The liberal idea that we can balance the budget by further raising taxes on anyone is a fallacy with no basis in fact. Here’s a link to a great article on who pays the taxes in the US, and the effect of the so-called “tax cuts”.
      http://www.american.com/archive/2007/november-december-magazine-contents/guess-who-really-pays-the-taxes

      The result of reducing tax rates in the Reagan era, the Clinton era, and the Bush era, was always the same: total tax collected went up, not down. That was particularly true of the top 5% of earners. So, get your facts straight before spouting any more liberal drivel about the Bush tax cuts benefitting the rich. It only resulted in the very rich paying a greater share of the total tax bill.

    • George E

      Dave6729,

      I’m getting the impression that any Republican that advocates a strong military is not a conservative by your definition. Is that correct? Is that your only test of conservative ideals? Do you think a true liberal can advocate for a strong military? Do you think FDR, Harry Truman, John Kennedy, or LBJ were true liberals?

  • Sirian

    Bob,
    Out of a point of interesting info I posted the following video that I thought you may find worthwhile. I’m not sure if you may have heard it before and are fully aware of this story but one way or the other it struck me as if you may like to listen to it. If nothing more place it as a mental note for some possible future article.
    http://shutking.blogspot.com/2010/06/video-of-tom-fife-telling-of-his-story.html

  • http://www.charter.net James Graham

    Since I have been working in this field for the past four years, it is a concern that the average person does not have a clue about the threats that are out there.

    This should go to every police chief, airport and entertainment security in our large cities; and to superintendents of schools.
    The writer is correct. In Europe, the public is ever watchful of suspicious objects, especially at airports and public places.

    Juval Aviv was the Israeli Agent upon whom the movie ‘ Munich ‘ was based. He was Golda Meir’s bodyguard. She appointed him to track down and bring to justice the Palestinian terrorists who took the Israeli athletes hostage and killed them during the Munich Olympic Games.

    In a lecture in New York City a few weeks ago, Aviv shared information that EVERY American needs to know – but that our government has not yet shared with us.

    Aviv predicted the London subway bombing on the Bill O’Reilly show on Fox News stating publicly that it would happen within a week. At the time, O’Reilly laughed and mocked him saying that in a week he wanted Aviv back on the show. But, unfortunately, within a week the terrorist attack had occurred.

    Juval Aviv gave intelligence (via what he had gathered in Israel and the Middle East ) to the Bush Administration about 9/11 a month before it occurred. His report specifically said that they would use planes as bombs and target high profile buildings and monuments. Congress has since hired him as a security consultant.

    Now for Aviv’s future predictions: He predicts the next terrorist attack on the U.S. will occur within the next few months..
    Forget hijacking airplanes, because he says terrorists will NEVER try hijacking a plane again as they know the people onboard will never go down quietly again. Aviv believes our airport security is a joke–that we have been reactionary rather than proactive in developing strategies that are truly effective.

    For example:
    1) Our airport technology is outdated. We look for metal, and the new explosives are made of plastic.

    2) He talked about how some idiot tried to light his shoe on fire. Because of that, now everyone has to take off their shoes. A group of idiots tried to bring aboard liquid explosives. Now we can’t bring liquids on board. He says he’s waiting for some suicidal maniac to pour liquid explosive on his underwear; at which point, security will have us all traveling naked! Every strategy we have is reactionary.

    3) We only focus on security when people are heading to the gates. Aviv says that if a terrorist attack targets airports in the future, they will target busy times on the front end of the airport when/where people are checking in. It would be easy for someone to take two suitcases of explosives, walk up to a busy check-in line, ask a person next to them to watch their bags for a minute while they run to the restroom or get a drink, and then detonate the bags BEFORE security even gets involved. In Israel , security checks bags BEFORE people can even ENTER the
    airport.

    Aviv says the next terrorist attack here in America is imminent and will involve suicide bombers and non-suicide bombers in places where large groups of people congregate… (i.e., Disneyland, Las Vegas
    casinos, big cities (New York, San Francisco, Chicago, etc.) and that it will also include shopping malls, subways in rush hour, train stations, etc., as well as rural America this time (Wyoming, Montana, etc.).

    The attack will be characterized by simultaneous detonations around the country (terrorists like a big impact), involving at least 5-8 cities, including rural areas.

    Aviv says terrorists won’t need to use suicide bombers in many of the larger cities, because at places like the MGM Grand in Las Vegas , they can simply valet park a car loaded with explosives and walk away.

    Aviv says all of the above is well known in intelligence circles, but that our U.S. Government does not want to ‘alarm American citizens’ with the facts.. The world is quickly going to become ‘a different place’, and issues like ‘global warming’ and political correctness will become totally irrelevant.

    On an encouraging note, Aviv says that Americans don’t have to be concerned about being nuked. He says the terrorists who want to destroy America will not use sophisticated weapons. They like to use suicide as a front-line approach. It’s cheap, it’s easy, it’s effective; and they have an infinite abundance of young militants more than willing to ‘meet their
    destiny’.

    Aviv also says the next level of terrorists, over which America should be most concerned, will not be coming from abroad. But will be, instead, ‘home grown’- that means having attended and been educated in our own schools and universities right here in the U.S. He says to look for ‘students’ who frequently travel back and forth to the Middle East . These young terrorists will be most dangerous because they will know our language and will fully understand the habits of Americans; but that we Americans won’t know/understand a thing about them.

    Aviv says that, as a people, Americans are unaware and uneducated about the terrorist threats we will, inevitably, face. America still has only a handful of Arabic and Farsi speaking people in our intelligence networks, and Aviv says it is critical that we change that fact SOON.

    So, what can America do to protect itself? From an intelligence perspective, Aviv says the U.S. needs to stop relying on satellites and technology for its intelligence. We need to, instead, follow Israel’s, Ireland’s and England’s hands-on examples of human intelligence, both from an infiltration perspective as well as to trust ‘aware’ citizens to help… We need to engage and educate ourselves as citizens; however, our U.S. Government continues to treat us, its citizens, ‘like babies’. Our government thinks we ‘can’t handle the truth’ and are concerned that we’ll panic if we understand the realities of terrorism.

    Aviv says this is a deadly mistake..

    Aviv recently created/executed a security test for our Congress, by placing an empty briefcase in five well-traveled spots in five major cities. The results? Not one person called 911 or sought a policeman to check it out. In fact, in Chicago , someone tried to steal the briefcase!

    In comparison, Aviv says that citizens of Israel are so well ‘trained’ that an unattended bag or package would be reported in seconds by citizen(s) who know to publicly shout, ‘Unattended Bag!’ The area would be quickly & calmly cleared by the citizens themselves. But, unfortunately, America hasn’t been ‘hurt enough’ yet by terrorism for their government to fully understand the need to educate its citizens or for the government to understand that it’s their citizens who are, inevitably, the best first-line of defense against terrorism.

    Aviv also was concerned about the high number of children here in America who were in preschool and kindergarten after 9/11, who were ‘lost’ without parents being able to pick them up, and about our schools that had no plan in place to best care for the students until parents could get there.. (In New York City , this was days, in some cases!)

    He stresses the importance of having a plan that’s agreed upon within your family, to respond to in the event of a terrorist emergency. He urges parents to contact their children’s schools and demand that the schools, too, develop plans of actions, as they do in Israel .

    Does your family know what to do if you can’t contact one another by phone? Where would you gather in an emergency?

    He says we should all have a plan that is easy enough for even our youngest children to remember and follow.

    Aviv says that the U.S. Government has in force a plan that, in the event of another terrorist attack, will immediately cut-off EVERYONE’s ability to use cell phones, blackberries, etc., as this is the preferred communication source used by terrorists and is often the way that their bombs are detonated.

    How will you communicate with your loved ones in the event you cannot speak? You need to have a plan.

    If you believe what you have just read, then you must feel compelled to send it to every concerned parent or guardian, grandparents, uncles, aunts, whatever and whomever. Nothing will happen if you choose not to do so, but in the event it does happen, this particular email will haunt you… “I should have sent this to…”, but I didn’t believe it and just deleted it as so much trash.

    • Crystal

      Gee, I didn’t hear Aviv mention one thing about blowing up the Hoover Dam ! Have a look on the back of a fifty dollar bill. You will see it just like the twin towers on the twenty dollar bill, or the Federal bombing on the ten dollar bill ! These plans have been in the works for years now. There is a reason these evil jerks put it on our money ! They like to hide things in plain sight. Aviv has not given any information that we don’t already know. The terrorists all have jobs in the WH, or are related to someone who does. Screw looking for students that travel back and forth, talk about mis-information !

    • John

      We all have to make choices, do we want to live life as a free man and enjoy it, or do we want to give in to fear and paranoia? Fear and paranoia only helps the government to tighten the rope around your neck even more and take away your freedom…what little there is left. So there is the possibility of a terrorist attack…. living in paranoia will not change one bit of this. Where there is a will, there is always a way…and terrorist know that to well. I for one refuse to live my life in fear and paranoia over what if’s.

    • ranger hall

      James Graham,,,,Juval Aviv an ISRAELI AGENT,Predicted the London subway bombing a week before,Also perdicted the 9/11 attack,He also quoted that Terrorists like to pick BUSY times (lots of people) makes me wonder why 9/11 Terrorists picked the times they picked, Im sure if they wanted to kill a LOT of People they would have picked 11 Am. Im also sure they would have done research on when they could kill the most people in the Buildings and the Streets below. seems like they did us a favor by picking the time they did. I sure would like to ask AVIV about this.
      And as for his PREDICTIONS I am just a little Worried.Most any decent security Person can give you the types of locations, BUT to pick a 100% Location really makes me worry Granted the way we operate in the world today WE can expect more Problems, But just who it comes from is what bothers me.

      • Kate8

        Rather than looking to the individuals who would carry out these attacks, we need to look at who is arranging and funding them, and who has the most to gain.

        That’s not so hard to figure out.

        They always tell us before these false-flags occur. (Could it be that they know because they are behind them, or know those who are?) We just aren’t usually listening.

        If you see a falling piano heading for someone’s head, is it fear mongering to tell them?

  • old hillbilly

    Fast fwd to our treasury… if you and 199,999 other good souls loan the treasury $20,000. Treasury prints & gives everyone rock solid guaranteed T-bill certificates (good as money!). President promptly gives his friends $2 billion cash (free) to drill oil wells they’ll own… in foreign lands we don’t control. Someone discovers the treasury never really pays money back… they just print more cash and many more T-bills to sell more unwitting souls. They tax and borrow to pay piddlings of interest on their ever growing debt. Retirees get near nothing on nest egg savings because “nanny” sets interest at zero! Nanny forces citizens to save money for retirement in rock solid SSI trust funds for retirement. But, T-boys must tax & borrow more money to pay the rock solid SSI retirement fund benefits because they & their global financiers “borrowed” and “lost” so much unspeakable trust fund money, that none dare utter a word! Fear not, the T/G (global)-men will stop making payments, save America, and council retirees about “conservation” (living without)… you’ll get used to it.

    Look at it this way… If you saved your first dollar earned in 1965… Instead of earning returns (interest) on “trust” funds, it would only be worth 14 cents today. So, you really haven’t lost much if your 1965 & later SSI money simply disappears. Without inflation, saving 15.3% of a $40K salary over 46 years with a modest 5% net return on investment yields a real nest egg of $1,092,620… ($2,917,296 with $106,800 max salary)! A $1092,620 annuity would pay $11,589/mo over 10yrs! $40K is only 37% of SSI max! If you bought gold in 1965 & if… you sold it for $7.14 on the dollar… Uncle O taxes the $6.14 gain as “profit” ($1.23 if taxed @ 20%???)… If you cheat on your tax expect fines and jail! The rope around your neck isn’t just a leash, it’s a noose!

    As long as weasels & wolves run the hen house, there will be no nest eggs. Why not demand morality & truth of public officials! Double or triple all civil & criminal penalties when it comes to public corruption! Frank & Dodd would be cleaning Madoff’s prison toilet & Holder would be tied to a stake in the Arizona desert. Obama might be living the pristine life with polar bears in Anwar instead of raising gas prices. And… nobody is mad, none are jailed, and Eric Holder has justice stuffed in a closet.

    • Crystal

      Touche’ !!

  • Dens

    Right again Bob. The time is now. Elections are becoming a leftist controlled joke and are no longer useful for preventing our destruction. For a preview of what America will be like if we do not act soon, look at South Africa.

  • Joe

    Why do progressives think it is ok to steal in the name of the greater good? why should you Force your morality on others?
    Why can’t you believe that If you want to help others and care for them that there are not others who feel the same who are not progressives?
    Why do you think Government can do the job of wet nursing everyone? Are you so lazy that you can’t be bothered to decide what charity’s to support with your money what programs you want to volunteer for in time and energy?
    Do you really think that people who spend 800 dollars for a hammer and thousands for a bathroom seat can be trusted with anything?
    If you can give a dam about anything so can others Trust that you can find them and work with them to care for everything you like.
    DO Not vote for Force to be used for any good cause it kills the just and moral results that would normally be obtained. I make an exception for the prevention of theft murder and the invasion of our sovereign nation.
    Welfare is the slavery of everyone in paying for it to the hoops needed to live by and jump through to keep it How do I know? Lived through it hated it will never if I have to die do it again!

    • OB1

      An economics professor at a local college made a statement that he had
      Never failed a single student before, but had recently failed an entire
      Class. That class had insisted that Obama’s socialism worked and that no
      One would be poor and no one would be rich, a great equalizer.

      The professor then said, “OK, we will have an experiment in this class
      On Obama’s plan”.. All grades will be averaged and everyone will receive
      The same grade so no one will fail and no one will receive an A….
      (substituting grades for dollars – something closer to home and more
      Readily understood by all).

      After the first test, the grades were averaged and everyone got a B. The
      Students who studied hard were upset and the students who studied little
      Were happy. As the second test rolled around, the students who studied
      Little had studied even less and the ones who studied hard decided they
      Wanted a free ride too so they studied little.

      The second test average was a D! No one was happy.
      When the 3rd test rolled around, the average was an F.

      As the tests proceeded, the scores never increased as bickering, blame
      And name-calling all resulted in hard feelings and no one would study
      For the benefit of anyone else.

      To their great surprise, ALL FAILED and the professor told them that
      Socialism would also ultimately fail because when the reward is great,
      The effort to succeed is great, but when government takes all the reward
      Away, no one will try or want to succeed.

      Could not be any simpler than that. (Please pass this on) Remember,
      There is a test coming up. The 2012 elections.
      These are possibly the 5 best sentences you’ll ever read and all
      Applicable to this experiment:

      1. You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the
      Wealthy out of prosperity.

      2. What one person receives without working for, another person must
      Work for without receiving.

      3. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government
      Does not first take from somebody else.

      4. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it.

      5. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work
      Because the other half is going to take care of them, and when the other
      Half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is
      Going to get what they work for, that is the beginning of the end of any
      Nation.

  • http://gravatar.com/hattles JeffH

    Trust in Federal Government At All Time Low
    According to a new national survey released this morning(Sept. 2011) by CNN/ORC International, the public’s trust in the federal government is at an all-time low.

    http://newsbusters.org/blogs/nb-staff/2011/09/28/open-thread-trust-federal-government-all-time-low

    Bob Livingston, overall, this may well be your best to date.
    Thank you.

    • OB1

      Thank you Bob; this was well written and a very good post. This did elicit interesting and objective responses (posts). Please keep it up.

  • Chisna

    I didn’t know Bob Livingston was really Glenn Beck.
    Or is it that they both suffer from the same form of mental illness which
    causes them to be so paranoid and delusional ?

    Also from the responses here, it’s obvious Bob and Glenn aren’t the only ones.

    But then that shouldn’t really come as a surprise to anyone seeing that 2% of the U.S. population suffer from serious mental illness, and as many as 20% of people have some form of mental impairment.

    • Crystal

      Funny that you and the elite are all in the top 2%. That makes sense to me since they are all in-bred, and fanatical dictators. You must be related or a shill working for them.

    • http://gravatar.com/hattles JeffH

      Chisna can’t respond to the article intelligently and must resort to the ignorant liberal tool of ridicule and attack the messenger.

    • http://www.facebook.com/rstsummers Rebecca Turley-Summers

      The latest research suggests that 16 to 17 percent of the population actually has their conscious brain hardwired into their “lizard brain” preventing them from overcoming their emotional responses with reason. (That’s a paraphrase of course, but makes the point why you can not reason with some people who have early learned responses like racism)

      • OB1

        Ahhhh, Rebecca! You read Seth G as well! Interesting.

  • FreedomFighter

    So you will know, in closing, we profile the sociopath:

    •He has glibness and superficial charm.
    •He is manipulative and cunning. Under his feigned charm, he is covertly hostile and domineering.
    •He has a grandiose sense of self.
    •He is a pathological liar.
    •He has no remorse, shame or guilt.
    •He has shallow emotions.
    •He has incapacity for love.
    •He is not concerned about how many lives he wrecks.
    •He usually has promiscuous sexual behavior.
    •He has a poor work ethic but is a master of exploiting others.
    •He has versatility and will change his image quickly to avoid prosecution.
    •He is contemptuous of anyone who understands them, like this writer.
    •He thinks only of his own immediate gratification.

    Politicians in America are employees of the state. This must be understood! Until this is understood, we have no hope.

    Satanists – sociopath not much differance.

    *AGE OF DECEIT* (FULL) Fallen Angels and the New World Order
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wjmFm8PIz8M

    Have you not wondered why, who and what is the purpose of all these evil monsters?

    Why the plan these evil people developed spans centurys?

    What motivates thse 13 bloodlines to continue the plan generation after generation?

    Laus Deo
    Semper Fi

  • Bert Cundle Sr.

    Useing Politicans in Government … Is the way to Blame the Public ! For what the Criminals in government do!

  • ROGER, Canadian Libertarian

    The BEST SOCIALIST system is a FREE MARKET

    • Bert Cundle Sr.

      Oil Companies can charge any amount they want to…(?) Sure you want lower priced gas, you can build an oil well in your back yard & refine it, to use for Gas… (With-out government permits) Let me know when you can sell it to me cheeper than O.P.E.C.

      • 45caliber

        Bert:

        The moment someone tries to sell it to you, they WILL need the government permits, etc. And the government will want to insure the business will stay in business … so they will mandate that the business owner sells you the gasoline about about double what any oil company will sell ilt to you for. They have done that many times in other areas including electricity.

  • http://gravatar.com/hattles JeffH

    There have existed, in every age and every country, two distinct orders of men—the lovers of freedom and the devoted advocates of power.”

    ~Robert Hayne, 1830

    • eddie47d

      There you go again bringing up those Robber Barons!

      • http://gravatar.com/hattles JeffH

        Polly want a cracker???? baaarrraaaccckkk!
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fL6wbsGx9qw

      • http://gravatar.com/hattles JeffH

        OHd, and eddie…don’t get discouraged…even a blind squirrel finds an acorn once sometimes :)

  • FreedomFighter

    Globalist ‘Green Front’ Hide Behind Enviromental Immunity

    …Corzine and the MF swindle, sagging morale at Big Sis’ Department of Homeland Security, an effort by the globalists to allow their Green Climate Fund front to operate around the world with immunity,…

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dE7c72mUFeY&feature=uploademail

    Now the criminals want immunity to not be tried in court, this includes Obama

    Laus Deo
    Semper Fi

    • Crystal

      Sad, but true FreedomFighter. They really think they will get away with it. Arrogance is blinding, and boy are they blinded !

  • steve

    to bad we can’t get the donald to tell them their fired. but the don got spanked by the pres after he boasted about the prez birth certificate. notice how he droped the complaint. think the prez boys paid the don a visit. where’s pauly and sally and vito when you need real men to handle the siteation as they would say.

  • Crystal

    Bob, Thank you for your article. I appreciate you bringing the truth to the fore front when so many are clinging to lies. Hopefully more people will realize what’s going on after reading it. It’s to bad that we have people making comments that are mindless, and meant to make others feel inadequate. Your a great writer Bob, thank you.

  • libertarian58

    I’ve heard that sociopaths comprise about 1/25 of our society. Isn’t that about the number of people we have in politics? It only makes sense that this is the type of person that would be attracted to a political career.

  • RichE

    Bob Livingston,
    Can a woman be a sociopath? Your definition just had HE’s.

    • http://boblivingstonpl.wordpress.com Bob Livingston

      Dear RichE,

      “The use of he as a pronoun for nouns embracing both genders is a simple, practical convention rooted in the beginnings of English language.” –The Elements of Style, by Strunk and White.

      Best wishes,
      Bob

      • RichE

        Thanks
        Old school. You don’t see a need to change?

      • http://boblivingstonpl.wordpress.com Bob Livingston

        Dear RichE,

        None.

        Best wishes,
        Bob

      • Kate8

        RichE – I understand that your question was rhetorical, but (aside from the issue of language, which has been dreadfully degraded because of the dumbing down of our younger generations)…

        At any rate, one has only to observe Hillary for the answer. The epitome.

        • RichE

          Thanks Kate8

  • Ernest A. Evancic

    We are no longer a democracy.. We have no say in the salaries, benefits, pensions of the career politicians. We have no say in how they spend tax dollars. We have gone through the worse recession since the depression and it still goes on. People are making so much less in their pay because we’ve been lied to by just about everyone. We have supported the countires who supply our oil with the lives of our kids along with subing the oil companies for years. Now we are getting whacked at the gas pump.All these politicians do is bicker and talk dirty to each other. this Campaign has become a joke to most Americans by the fact they won’t stay on subjects that mean a lot to us as a voter. As you can see I’m fed up. Get that message to the Washington elitists who know how to act like kids and not a
    responsible adults. We need to raise the bar around those who represent our voice down there.

  • Wyatt

    As Americans voting to elect our leaders we have an obligation to examine each candidate fully and carefully and then select the one who we believe will be the best to lead . But all top many times , we select a president because he is , A/ the best looking B/ The best speaker C/ The most personable and lastly , D/ He is politically correct at that moment .

    In !992 we elected a Young and fairly handsome president not because he was the best candidate , but because he had charm , good looks and was a fairly good speaker . That he managed to do well financially and leave us a surplus is amazing as he sure didn’t spend much time leading us . Morning jogs and stops at Mikey D’s and carousing with White House interns and disgracing the office he held while ignoring the events building in the middle east by a terror group . Because of that weakness we had a crazed Arab mastermind the events of 9/11 . But it wasn’t on his watch so a new President was left to deal with it . That he received flawed intelligence much of the time and mad some ill advised decisions really can’t be held against him as he had to deal with a hostile House and Senate much of the time .

    And come 2008 we enter into an election where we suddenly are asked to be Politically Correct and elect a man of color who is charming , a good speaker , a family man and promises us much . Hope and Change he says but what is it he hopes to change ? He never tells us , never tells us what he hopes to change . All he does after he gets elected is seal all records of his life and those of his wife from all investigation . I have to think he knew someone would investigate his legal right to run for office as he attacks our Constitution and spends money on whatever he chooses only to see those companies he invests taxpayers money on go belly up . Having never held a job , owned a house or had to manage money he has no clue as to how the world works and is basically just an over educated idiot . But it was politacally correct to elect him , and now he and his appointed cronies are waging war on Americans as they take us down the path to being a third world dictatorship .

    The moral folks , examine the credentials of those you would elect . hey may seem wonderful and promise much and appear to good to be true . In which case they probably are .. We not only have a guy trying to get re-elected , and may well cancel that election if it is clear he will lose , but we also have a couple of others trying to get elected as well . One so liberal that liberals take lessons from him , Another who is so detached from reality as to believe we can cut ourselves off from the world and be safe . And two more who are also a bit suspect . So do yourself a favor folks . Be careful who you elect

  • Thinking About

    As written about before, cognitive dissonance allows many to continue to tell a story and then start believing the story. Libertians believe they are right and if everyone would do things their way the world would be perfect, Republicans are confused with what conserative is, and Democrats are labeled as progressive and liberal. Say this long enough and you get some believers. Then we come to profiling, all three spend money though some votes against bills and claim innocence to spending money and knowing all the time they have added earmarks which spend money. I feel sure if some could have their way elections would be a thing in the past and they would choose “the one” and everything would be perfect, their own uptopia. Wont happen.

    • 45caliber

      Thniking:
      Unfortunately many believe that they have already found “the one”. And that creates even more problems.

  • Ted Crawford

    All this has been known for countless generations! ” The shaft of the arrow had been feathered with one of the Eagles own plumes. We often give our enemies the means of our own destruction ” Aesop
    The process was simply explained over 200 years ago ” A Democracy cannot exist as a permanant form of Government. It can only exist untill the voters discover they can vote themselves largesse from the public Treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the Candidates promising the most benifits from the Public Treasury, with the results that a Democracy always coliapses over loose fiscal policy, and is always followed by a Dictatorship ” Alexander Fraser Tyler 1787
    ” The American Republic will endure, untill the Politicians realize they can bribe the People with their own money” Alexis de Tocqucville 1787
    What we are experiencing has happened in the past. Saddly for much the same reasons! The “Rise and Fall of the Roman Empire” clearly explains the how, while “Atlas Shrugged” helps to understand the why of it!

  • http://aol.com Proseshooter

    Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely. This November, fire all of the incumbents, because the good ole boy system does not stick to party lines. The drive to dominate exists in nearly all species of animals. The list of Sociopath characteristics can be observed in just about any barnyard or zoo. FAI. Viva la revolucion.

    • 45caliber

      One of the real problems is that we need to fire all the top bureaucrats as well. Most of those are basically hired-for-life regardless of which party is in power and they know it. Many of them are the writers of regulations or they at least approve them after being written. Getting rid of the existing politicians won’t change that unless the officials are willing to investigate and fire any bureaucrat that is a problem. Many probably need to join the majority of the present officials in jail cells somewhere.

      • RichE

        45caliber,
        “Fire them!” That is so lame, I’m going to give it a name, ‘replacers’ . If you had a 500 employee company would you fire them all? Would you replace them with someone that promised to do a better job? So many posters here are under the illusion they are electing someone who will represent them and when they’re unhappy they want to replace them with someone that represents them. Albert said Insanity was doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.

      • Raggs

        RichE… If we had a death penalty for treason for these basturds I’m quit sure that they would not be so happy to turn their back on the people that put them in office.

      • 45caliber

        I don’t think I was talking about firing ALL of the government workers. I was talking about firing the bureaucrats who run things. And firing only those what failed an investigation into what they were doing.

      • Raggs

        I would call that all of them, well unless there is one that is worthy?
        I’m sick of paying these thugs to tell me what to eat, what to drink, what light bulb to use, how many times I can flush MY TOILET, where I drive, how to drive, and BTW I’m sick of these son-of-a-bitches spying on me.

        I have a light trigger finger.

  • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing Jay

    The United States now has a Communist president as of January 2009. Some prefer to call President Obama a “Globalist” instead of a Communist, but there’s not a dime’s difference.

    Communism is a vehicle created long ago by the International Banking Cartel, intended to bring to fruition a Global Godless Totalitarian Communist Police State. Nazism and Communism are simply two separate legs walking in the same direction—toward world domination, aka, a New World Order.

    Karl Ritter is considered by most the father of Nazism, just as Karl Marx is considered by most as the father of modern Communism. Both evils are the work of God-hating humanists, Evolutionists and eugenicists. DEVILUTION!

    • Kate8

      Well said, Jay. It doesn’t matter at all what label you put on it. Tyranny is tyranny.

      Most people have no idea how far down that road we already are. But they will soon.

      • OB1

        Very well said. Missed your insightful posts Kate. Please review my previous posts today. Finding out the power behind the curtain is scarey as well as enlightening. However, again I will post for comic relief an older DEVO song (with words) to “Whip It.” Don’t give up. Yes, it seem sometimes we are DE-evolutionizing…..

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lwKDfySG0Zw

      • http://katrael.wordpress.com Katrael

        Woodrow Wilson was the last elected president and the rest have been nothing but corporate criminals since then. This happened with the addition of the seventeenth amendment as the real constitution clearly stipulates that the location of determining Senators was never to be changed and the Senate is supposed to count the votes and declare the winner. Giving the average person the right to directly vote for their Senators was considered to be a bad thing as it would create a Senate sensitive to the direct whims of the people and thereby upsetting the separation of the powers.

  • chuckb

    one way to cure the problem, termlimits, cut the pay rate and benefits. politicians find the good life in washington d.c.and will cater to the poor which we have an abundance, that’s where socialism comes in, people think they are getting something for nothing, the politicians offer them just that and they hardly ever get it, but, they think they are and consequently they will vote these people back everytime.

    • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing Jay

      What is the difference between a revolution and a civil war?

      A civil war is simply put a war between citizens of the same country. Be it a division that falls along political, racial, gender, geographic region, or whatever lines; if it is involves citizens of the same country who are at war with each other it is classified as a civil war. Civil Wars generally are fought for political independence (or dominance) of each side – they may or may not result in a splitting of the original country, but those wars where secession is a stated goal of one side (not just an outcome) are generally always considered a Civil War.

      A revolution is a war fought to overthrow or rid yourself of a government in order to establish a new one. The old government may be indigenous, or may be external (i.e. colonial). In general, the main point of a revolution is to completely overthrow the existing government and replace it with a native government, NOT to split the country. Revolutions can be civil wars, but civil wars do not have to be revolutions.

      The American Revolution was fought between citizens of the American Colonies, which, while nominally British subjects, did not consider themselves Englishmen. The “Americans” fought a revolution against their current government, which was British, as the purpose was to replace the entire government of the Colonies with a whole new government, independent of Great Britain.

      The American Civil War was not a revolution, but a civil war. It was between two major political factions; in this case, one faction decided that it wanted to self-govern. It is classified as a civil war because (a) it was solely between citizens of one country (b) the point was political independence of one group, NOT the wholesale replacement of the national government for the entire country and (c) secession was a stated goal.

  • mike

    It seems to me as if you are describing everyone of them. It is interesting to note that the founders warned us about these same people. The promiscuity, serving for fame as well as fortune. Doesn’t seem like we’ve learned much.

    • Raggs

      Problem is that schools no longer teach the media lies and the sheeple listen to what they want to hear.

      Let’s summerize this regime… Shall we call it… Facist?… Marxist?… Socialist?… In one word lets call it progressivism?…. The definition of this regime is a mixture of all of the above which lends me to think more to progressivism which is just a sewer of the leftovers from a totalitarian regime…

  • http://rtilley002 Bob Tilley

    The people of America have become ignorant from illiteracy. The ones who support this ignoramus are the ones who are truly nescient. This word means that they DO NOT know that they are ignorant and believe me they are the most dangerous people. THEY DO NOT KNOW THAT THEY DO NOT KNOW. obummer knows this and we will pit the citizens against each other out of the fact that obummer is also the most NESCIENT. I once thought that what hitler did in the ’40 could never happen again. Well bless my soul it has happened and the pro obummers don’t know that they don’t know-the worst of ignorance. And to further this cancer in America, our repersentatives and senators are eaten up with this advanced stage of ignorance. Just take a hard look at them- they are fighting each other like the war tribes of old. And we all just sit around and think all this will go away. Well, it WILL ALL GO AWAY, the AMERICA we all once loved will be no more. I wonder how quick the citizens of early America would react to all this crap that is continually heaped on WE, THE TRUE AMERICANS, the ones who can produce an honest “BIRTH CERTIFICATE.” I tell you that if we continue to sit on our FAT-RUMPS WE WILL LOOSE THIS AMERICA AND WE WHO KNOW THE LORD WILL WATCH IT GO DOWN THE TUBES. One thing I am positive of – that God will and soon take charge and obummer and all the blind ones who cannot see real justice will see what the difference between ignorance and nescience really is. Right now they are living high on the hog with our tax money, but when they fall it will be the “thud” heard aroung the world. And that will sweet justice and poetic justice.

    • 45caliber

      Stop and consider what Hitler actually did.

      He used a small minority of the population that many didn’t like as scapegoats to take the people’s attention away from what he was actually doing.

      He confiscated all guns due to this minority.

      He took total control of the government.

      He used the school system to train a Youth Corps to believe he was close to God.

      He used the school system to dumb down the youth and make they believe they were more special than any other part of the world.

      He used the school system to make the majority of the people believe that religion was all a hoax.

      He used a group of people loyal only to him to limit any expression by citizens against him.

      Finally he decided to conquer as much of the world as possible because he wanted to be ruler and because he became victim of his own propaganda – that he was God.

      Is that much different than what the present politicians are doing?

      • http://www.facebook.com/rstsummers Rebecca Turley-Summers

        Wow! Best description of the corporatocracy and the neo-cons I’ve heard yet! That’s exactly what they’ve been up to for decades.

      • Raggs

        But in the end MAGGOTS will feed on oblama just like they did with hitler, the question is how long does America suffer?

      • Kate8

        True enough, Raggs.

        I guess if there is any comfort to be taken from all this, it would be that. :)

  • CJM2

    What happens when folks get elected to office is the new-found POWER that goes with the position. Most elected officials apparently forget that the power is merely conferred upon them by the constitutents and these constitutents can take that power from them. To continue in office, the officials begin testing the waters, telling their constituents what they want to hear while secretly building their personal stake as an elected official. Folks don’t really bother themselves with looking at the track record being established by the elected officials and wind up constantly putting these criminals back in office….until the floodgates open as they have with the shady obammy election. Is it too late? Only if the consitutents continue to place these greedy monsters back in office–just as SF did with pelosi and Nevada did with Reid. It’s the people who vote…or fail to vote….that enables these felons to continue to exist and destroy a Nation.

    • Raggs

      Not only but…
      One of my main bitches is that these sorry basturds get a lifetime of “FREE” stuff once they find their way into a BOGUS office… I say to hell with their benefits and to hell with their entitlements once they are found to be as useless as they are and they are kicked on the road side where they ALL belong!
      The sorry son of a bitches need to be shot.

    • http://katrael.wordpress.com Katrael

      You’re right. We are paying the price for not being vigilant. I was always told that there are two things you can’t trust anyone with, not even your best friend and that is your money and your woman/man (trying to be politically correct here). I really think this is true about giving power over you to someone else but when we do we have to be vigilant or they will continue to take power from us and abuse us with it until we stop them.

  • boyscout

    Well yes, that pretty well sums it up, Bob. But you really needn’t have sugar coated the potential outcomes with such optimistic euphemisms. In truth, most sheeple will get what they deserve; citizens and patriots be damned in the process of mass opting for corruption. We now have the structure (government as it is) and the willing accomplices necessary to exact oppression; keep watch for incidents of such.

    • http://katrael.wordpress.com Katrael

      Even a faithful dog will turn on it’s owner once it becomes rabid and our corporate criminal politicians are rabid. That’s what all of these liberals can’t understand that their favorite dog is going to turn on them and bite them. Can’t fix them and it’s time to get rid of them in the next round of elections.

  • Raggs

    I will now place my bet.

    oblamacare will stand not because it is found to be constitutional but because oblama is BLACK….
    Call me whatever you wish, but we all know why and how and where.
    This eats the cake people.

  • Raggs

    The “NEW” normal under oblama is that you are a lifeless vegetarian queer basement hugger rider on that soul train.

  • chuckb

    the only way this country can survive is every person must be on an equal basis, we must survive by our own initiative. race is not a guarantee for success. the united states is not a country for the people of this world to rush in without invitation or permit. we are not a place where people can set up their own fiefdom and demand we feed them from birth to death and claim foul every time they break the law and suffer the consequence. . we have large black and latino congregations and each one demanding their culture comes before the law of the land, at present the blacks have control of the presidency and the justice dept. their bias is plain and obvious. the latins are demanding free citizenship without orderly and lawful immigration. the muslims are migrating both legal and illegal, they are sitting up their own culture, they want to install the sharia law and we must cater to their way. this is our problem and there is no solution short of a civil war, in a way the civil rights laws have brought us uncivil rights and are causing more problems than a cure. i can see no way out, eventually these three entities will grow into a major problem and this country will turn into a third world country with factions fighting each other not unlike we are watching in the middle east.

    • oh oh

      The death of our core American culture will be the death of our Republic, just as the Founders and others like Tocqueville warned us. They understood the need for a virtuous people in order to preserve the Republic. They even described what was meant by virtuous and it bore no resemblance to the diverse and secular mutations that now dominate much of our culture. We’ve lost our exceptional American soul through dilution, attrition and neglect. Even if there are violent conflicts on the horizon, it’s doubtful whether the diverse makeup of the survivors could possibly duplicate the noble accomplishments of our Founders. Just a nasty little truth that’s not polite to mention in PC company… but germane nonetheless.

      • anonymous

        there is hope and a growing movement. vote for ron paul for president and constitutionalists in the house and senate and check out this website, these members of the military and veterans are for upholding the constitution
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  • solonsays

    America could balance its budget tomorrow by simply applying a one penny fee to every dollar of leverage that Wall Street uses to create their artificial wealth. Corporations have taken control of our government, pay no taxes, transfer their costs to the taxpayer and use their bully pulpit to blame Socialism for the evil they perpetrate on America.

    • oh oh

      Crony capitalism is wrong, but socialism is just as dangerous. Both should be opposed by believers in our Founding principles.

  • ranger hall

    Bob, Was a very nice piece. all we do is talk about all the problems facing our country and the world, BUT no one seems to talk about HOW these problems can be cured, WE know, are most of us do, that the president is just a whipping boy, and we also know that the congress controls the Laws and we also know that the Supreme Court is supposed to control them Both, well it seems like the people need to do their job, But no one seems to have what it takes, Nothing is stronger than the People for a common cause, yet we have no common cause. If we need to clean our house,Civil war or Revolution, thats fine, But the American people can clean house by just standing up as a large group and demanding that their elected reps do the right things if not then they need to demand that these people step down. I did say DEMAND. Well we know that the same people have been in power for many, many terms Yet the People do nothing. WE the people are our own worst enemy.
    You see the same old garbage every 4 years, and nothing changes,just keeps getting worst.
    For most of you out there, our Govt controlls the UN and pays most of the bills.
    And some of us will never allow the UN flag to fly over the USA, Some of us will never take orders from a UN country, Only our own Countrys Military, as long as its a lawful order.
    Our Media today only cares about Money Not about the Truth.
    Never from without ONLY from within.

  • Pete DiOrio

    “The old entrenched crowd must go, and some must be tried for treason. The hangman must be hanged!”

    I think the above comments, some very thoughtful and informative, are missing the essential point being made by the article.

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  • JannD

    A great article which clearly defines where & why our country is in such dire straits.
    Our ‘elected’ elite have taken the easy road far too many times and use their elected
    positions to feather their individual nests, more often than they take care of the business
    they were elected to do.. It’s fairly obvious that ‘party’ names don’t mean much now
    days & each use the other for the familiar ‘blame game’ to divert us from their devious
    & self-serving agendas.
    If I sound disenchanted with our elected representatives – you got it right. We are being used as a bottomless bucket of money (although mostly ignored and treated with disdain more times than not, our thoughts on any subject/bill, etc. often sneered at and our support of or disapproval for any given bill or law many times ignored or an opposite vote registered); benefits which the majority of us will never see in our lifetimes; perks for travel abroad and domestically -at our expense; vacation time, the total of which most of us will never experience which is pretty much unheard of in the private sector – and..all of this and more, without ever experiencing a ‘formal job review’ ? There is a laundry-list of reforms which need to be instituted in both Houses before we might see anything changing for the better. A handful of lay folks from around the country
    who have proven track-records of volunteerism/successful private businesses and some
    with economic/financial training & experience, etc. might be called upon to originate a plan to lay the groundwork for a House and Senate Members Annual Review Committee.
    Elections are NOT enough to weed out the insubordinate members of Congress, Being able to set your own salary/benefits/vacation times and length, to mention a few of their ‘perks’ should be set by other than themselves. Since we, the taxpayers are the ones who pick up the tab for these elected positions, it seems only sensible that a ‘committee’ or group, be the decision-making entity for our elected representatives. Of course, details re: who/what/when should the idea become reality.

    For those who comment that ‘so and so Senator’ just retired after 32 years (or you fill in the blanks) in Congress – as if….this was some great accomplishment? Hello? Do you really think our founders meant for these terms of office to be a lifetime occupation? The answer is: NO, a resounding NO….serve your term – 2 yrs. 6 years- and then GO HOME and take care of your regular job/business/etc. The longer they serve, the more corrupt
    they become. ..TERM LIMITS if not to be touched by our elected lawmakers, then it is
    up to a Citizen group to bring forward. Is this something the States can back and limit
    their terms since that’s where these ‘elites’ are elected from? Doesn’t seem as if it will ever be forthcoming from within either House.

    One of my most pressing problems with our federal government at present is the total
    lack of vetting candidates, especially when it is for our President, but also any other
    position or any of the Presidential appointees. Clearly was NOT even touched for
    our present President, his Administration/Cabinet and the never-ending list of Czars
    (all of which WE taxpayers are paying dearly for) Czars: eliminate this category and VET anyone named/nominated/appointed to ANY government position-especially our Executive Branch. Not doing so gest us exactly what we are living with at the present with this administration. Also think ‘Executive Order’ decisions/signings, etc. should be
    eliminated or re-examined and some exclusions – exceptions put in place to stop the
    irregular and/or illegal use of same. The most important thing all of us can do now
    that our country seems to be slipping slowly towards the edge, is pray, knowing that God knows what we, our country and the world need, before we even know it ourselves.

  • Paul Coolidge

    All of our politicians today are Puppets, and Obama is the biggest Puppet of all. The Puppeteer tells them all what to do, say, vote for and how to act. The puppets lie because the Puppeteer is a Master of lies. Did not Jesus say that Satan was the Father of all Lies? Could Satan be the Master Puppeteer? Maybe that should be a big question that we put to all new politicians, can you lie really good? can you make us believe that you really give a Hoot about us, and our needs; or our freedom???

    • http://katrael.wordpress.com Katrael

      Of course the politicians are sons of Satan. They oppose everything that is right.

  • Arthur King of the Britons

    Make no mistake about it, we have been on this path for the last century. The foundation that has made America’s undoing possible was laid nearly 100 years ago, with the Federal Reserve Act, and the16th and 17th amendments. If we lose, in the final analysis I believe the 2 components that will have been the most critical are government control over education, and the myth of separation of church and state. If the general public actually knew the meaning of the Constitution, they would not have allowed the government to bring us to where we are. Every tyrant has known that if you want to control the future, you must control the minds of youth. As for the separation of church and state, it is no coincidence it was first implemented in the schools. We cannot be a nation of liars and thieves and expect to remain free. The standard for our national morality set forth by the example of George Washington and the other founding fathers has been systematically undermined in the institutions that shape that morality, most especially, the schools. It boils down to communism. That’s what is coming if we don’t wake up en mass, very soon. Roger Baldwin, founder of the ACLU stated plainly, communism is the goal. The government run schools, the income tax, the private cartel called the Federal Reserve, among others, are all planks in the Communist Manifesto, not powers granted in the Constitution.

    • rstsummers

      Communism is the goal of what? Not the ACLU, which works to UPHOLD our constitutionally guaranteed freedoms and rights..I smell someone taking half a sentence to make up their own self-serving bull—-. I think we need to hear the whole sentence before we buy that argument.

    • http://katrael.wordpress.com Katrael

      Arthur King of the Britons, Thank you for your comment. Most people don’t know just how important those two amendments are to the cause of communism (which in reality will mean nothing less than slavery for the masses). We haven’t had a Constitutionally elected president or Senate since the seventeenth amendment. How can this be? The Constitution forbade changing the location of how Senators were elected and this is evident in the original body of the constitution; even before there were any amendments therefore the seventeenth amendment is not a legal part of the Constitution. This means that we don’t have a Constitutionally seated Senate and they are the ones who count the votes to determine who gets to be president. As to the sixteenth amendment? Well, it’s legal as it’s a part of a contract between us, the sheeple and the corporate monster we allowed to be formed back during the dark days right after the Civil War.

  • Steve J

    WOW Bob! No truer words have ever been written. It sound like you were writing about our astreemed prez. I am glad I became a member. I just wish we had a legal plan to end this madness. I would like to be a part of it.

    • http://katrael.wordpress.com Katrael

      Steve J, there is a legal remedy and it’s called: learning the Constitutions of the United States of America and forcing our evil corporate government to adhere to it. This has to be done before the final blow is dealt and that final blow will be the removal of the Constitution of The United States of America as the law of the land and all pretenses that it is being followed.

      • rstsummers

        Yep, and if we don’t all join the constitutional amendment movement NOW, right now, it will be too late in a few months once a new congress is in place.

        • http://katrael.wordpress.com Katrael

          rstsummers, I’m out of the loop so to speak. Just what is the constitutional amendment movement anyway?

          • rstsummers

            There are a wide range of groups joining forces to undo the damage of Citizens United by passing a constitutional amendment putting corporations back in their place as legal fictions and government created entities without personal rights and freedoms, as well as redefining money as chattel and not speech. Unless we stop the insanity unleashed on us the Sup Ct there is no chance that we will continue as any kind of democracy, nor will we regain our rights and freedoms that they have usurped. Google “movetoamend”, “wolfpac”, “amend the constitution” or “overturn citizens united” to find out the latest news and actions being taken. Additionally, I am urging that a federal initiative process be created so that “we the people” can step in and clean up the mess when our “leaders” get out of line.

          • http://katrael.wordpress.com Katrael

            rstsummers, thanks for the information. I have some homework to do now studying these things.

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