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The Tax Rebellion Begins

February 7, 2013 by  

 

Hello, I’m Wayne Allyn Root for Personal Liberty. Mr. Obama, you have a big problem. A tax rebellion has started.

Phil Mickelson is one of the most famous athletes in the world. He is worth in the vicinity of $100 million. Last year, he made almost $50 million. Yet he doesn’t want to pay California’s high taxes.

Tiger Woods is far more famous and worth far more (more than $1 billion), yet he agrees with Mickelson. He recently admitted that he left California in 1996 for the exact same reason: high taxes.

In the same week, famed boxing promoter Bob Arum announced that superstar boxing legend Manny Pacquiao’s next fight will not be in held in America. The man who makes tens of millions of dollars per fight refuses to pay Barack Obama’s higher U.S. income taxes. He is considering Mexico City, Asia, or Dubai for his next fight. Can you imagine?

Then, Tina Turner went public. She is renouncing her U.S. citizenship to become a citizen of Switzerland, which just happens to have lower taxes than Obama’s America.

But these are just the rich celebrities courageous enough to go public. This is merely the tip of the iceberg. The rich are fleeing in droves. The Obama tax-and-spend Ponzi scheme is imploding.

What changed? The technology revolution has made it possible to do business from places where the taxes are lower (or nonexistent) and where the government treats people better. Obama had better learn this lesson fast, because this tax rebellion is spreading to millions of Americans with far smaller incomes or assets than Woods’, Mickelson’s or Pacquaio’s.

The signs are everywhere that a tax rebellion has begun. The latest U.S. census showed us that the States with the lowest taxes enjoyed the fastest population growth — States like Nevada, Texas, Florida and Arizona. Not surprisingly, the States losing the most population are all high-tax States like California, New York, New Jersey, Connecticut, Maryland and, of course, Obama’s Illinois.

These States that Americans are running from are all governed just like Obama wants to govern the entire country. Soon, these same Americans running away from California, New York and Illinois will instead be running away from America.

Ask the co-founder of Facebook, who recently renounced his citizenship and left for Singapore (where the capital gains taxes are zero).

Ask big-time Democratic contributor Denise Rich, who recently renounced her citizenship to leave for Austria.

The trickle is turning into a torrent. Record numbers of wealthy Americans are giving up their citizenshipeight times more than before Obama became President.

Of course, we already know that only one year after the U.K. imposed a millionaire tax, two-thirds of the millionaires in England disappeared off the tax rolls.

We already know that millionaires are escaping France at a record pace because of high tax rates imposed by the new Obama-clone Socialist President of France. Even actors like Gerard Depardieu have been forced to abandon the country they love.

The famous actor isn’t alone. Requests by citizens to leave France are up by 500 percent.

But then came the coup de grace. Former French President Nicolas Sarkozy has just announced he is leaving France because of taxes. High taxes are even chasing away the former Presidents from their own countries.

High taxes work great in France. The nation’s labor minister announced just this week that France is “totally bankrupt.” His words.

I understand all of this only too well. I’ve got my own “escape from taxes” story. I arrived in sunny Southern California in 1989. I fell in love. I thought I would never leave. I woke up every morning to walk on the beach and to watch dolphins swim from my deck.

Unfortunately, during the next decade, California grew more and more desperate. Taxes were raised again and again. There were so many rules, regulations and lawyers that it became impossible to run a business in California. So I escaped to Las Vegas.

Las Vegas is “America’s Monte Carlo.” It’s a place with no State income tax, business income tax, capital gains tax or inheritance tax, and it has the 16th lowest property taxes in America. It’s a place where the State constitution bans income taxes, limits the time politicians can meet and welcomes guns in the hands of law-abiding citizens. I call it heaven.

Mr. Obama, the secret is out. Taxes do nothing for productive people (like business owners or high-income earners). Nothing. Zero. Zip. Nada. It’s like burning your money in the fireplace. I’m a witness. I lived in New York for 27 years, then California for a decade. What did I get for all those taxes I paid? Nothing. But I did gain something fantastic: a much higher quality of life. The money I saved paid for home-school tutors for my oldest daughter. She was accepted to Harvard University. She’s now attending Oxford in the U.K. Would she be attending the two best universities in the world if I had sent her to public school? Lower taxes changed my life — and the lives of my family members.

Science magazine reported on a study of the unhappiest people in America. They all happen to live in high-tax States. The happiest people happen to live in low-tax States. Coincidence?

Maybe these citizens are happier because the economy grows so much faster in low-tax States. The Wall Street Journal reported on a study from the Kansas Policy Institute that shows that States without an income tax have significantly higher growth (59 percent versus 42 percent) over the past 10 years. They increased the number of jobs by 4.9 percent while jobs in the rest of the States declined by 2.6 percent.

Examples abound of Americans with high incomes and assets escaping from high-tax states. Between 2000 and 2010, 551,914 people left California just for one State, Texas, taking $14.3 billion in income.

Maryland has much higher taxes than Virginia. Between 2007 and 2010, more than 40,000 residents escaped from Maryland to become Virginia residents. They took $2.17 billion with them.

But New York is the poster child. The Tax Foundation reports that 612,520 people left New York and moved to Florida in the past decade, taking with them $19.7 billion in adjusted growth income.

Overall, 1.3 million residents escaped from New York in the past decade, taking with them $45.6 billion.

You know what they say about pigs: They get slaughtered. California is certainly a pig. Just like the PIIGS in Europe (Portugal, Italy, Ireland, Greece and Spain) all chased away their richest citizens and business owners. Now they have nothing left. Their tax bases are destroyed. Add France and the U.K. to the list. They’re all going down.

If we let big-government progressives have their way, California’s sad story and Europe’s tragic story will also be America’s sad story. Obama is killing the American dream. Mickelson was only vocalizing what millions of business owners in America are thinking right now.

Here’s the reality: The high-tech revolution has killed the progressive and socialist dream. You can’t tax us to death, simply because you don’t own us. We have iPhones, iPads, iPods, smartphones, laptops and satellite TV. We can do business from anywhere in the world: from a beach in Sydney to a mountaintop in Nepal to a forest in New Zealand to a luxury high rise in Hong Kong. It’s called freedom.

Sorry, Obama, your dream is about to collapse. Ask Mickelson or the former President of France or all those millionaires missing from England or, soon, half the business owners in America.

Tax-and-spend is DOA (dead on arrival). I’m Wayne Root for PersonalLiberty.com. See you next week. God bless capitalism, smaller government and lower taxes. God bless America.

Wayne Allyn Root

(W.A.R.) is a former Presidential candidate, the 2008 Libertarian Vice Presidential nominee, and a Libertarian-conservative national media star. His new book, “The Ultimate Obama Survival Guide” is a #1 national best-seller in bookstores, as well as an Amazon #1 Finance and Conservative bestseller. A former CNBC anchorman and host (then known as Financial News Network), Root is the ultimate Capitalist Evangelist: a blue-collar S.O.B. (son of a butcher) turned CEO, small businessman, serial entrepreneur, business speaker, and TV/radio commentator on the topics of business, economics, entrepreneurship, and politics. Root is a regular guest on Fox News, as well as on hundreds of conservative talk radio shows across the United States. His opinions reach tens of millions of Americans as a regular columnist and commentator for many of the most popular political and business websites, including FoxNews.com. He also writes regularly for The Washington Times. He is the bestselling author of eight books. Root serves as national spokesman for several companies, as well as a Senior Economic Advisor. Root is also well known in the television and media industries. He has hosted, starred and produced many television shows. Today, he is a producer of the highest-rated television show on Travel Channel. Because of his success in the diverse fields of business, media, sports, entertainment and publishing, Root was awarded his own 180-pound granite star in the Las Vegas Walk of Stars. Only 60 legends in the history of Las Vegas have received a star on Las Vegas Boulevard. A native New Yorker and graduate of prestigious Columbia University, this Capitalist Evangelist proudly resides in Nevada, a state with no income tax. His website is ROOTforAmerica.com.

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  • Warrior

    The remaining residents of NY, Calif and ILL will be “taxed into poverty”. I live in ILL and this is “exactly” what is happening and about to get a whole lot worse (underfunded public pensions). Property taxes are now making home ownership unaffordable for most. Who would have imagined we have reached the point that property tax bills are higher than mortgage payments. This is not by “accident”, this IS by “design”. The “progressive’s” attempt to get the herd back in the pen (chicago). No thanks. I’ve had enough and experienced enough of “progressivism” and hopefully will be able to get out before the “fall”. When that time comes, no one will have to turn off the lights, they will go off all by themselves.

    • http://google oldMarine

      Agreed, I left ILL more than a decade ago because of property taxes, Just before they quadrupled.

      • http://www.facebook.com/benjamin.fox.98892 Benjamin Fox

        Semper Fi; oldMarine from another oldMarine. My daughter was stationed in Chicago with a major airline and couldn’t wait to get out, sold there home and moved where they now have three homes for the price of the one. She had to move to New Jersey and rented for a out rages rent on a Condo, she has told New Jersey and the airlines good bye and now lives better then ever. New York is a nazi state and people need to leave it in the hands of the nazi’s in charge and let them pound dirt. God Bless and Semper Fi, jarhead.

    • Capitalist at Birth

      My brother in law, who lives in Illinois but works in Missouri, has a three bedroom two story with a basement on .4 an acre lot, paying over $ 5,000 a year in property taxes. Paying higher income taxes than he would if he lived in Missouri. Property taxes have risen slightly in Missouri, but I would take the $ 1,700 a year I pay for a 4 bedroom two story with a real walk out basement on and acre, on a lake with a tremendous view, over living in Illinois. My wife was born in Illinois in a Democrat family, but now votes for Conservative candidates and lives in a Conservative state. I suggest we all vote with our feet. I am planning to leave for Costa Rica or Chile when my Mother in law and my Father pass away.

      • moonbeam

        You won’t be the only one, Cap. I know LOTS of people who are doing and have done the same. You can live like a king in Cost Rica for very little money. You can have a beautiful home, gardener, housekeeper, a veritable army working for you. I think the exchange rate is (last time I looked) was about every $1 of ours is worth $7 of their money. Don’t know what it is now, but you can live damn good there on retirement income. Here in the USA you’ll starve to death on retirement income while the government lives a lavish life courtesy of the swindled taxpayer.

      • Old Henry

        CAB:

        How about Ecuador?

      • http://Old Mark

        That’s very “white” of you to run and leave those of us without the means to deal with the mess. Thanks

      • cawmun cents

        How very “progressive” of you to mention it.
        Class warfare,racecard,pointing the finger of blame at someone else…..yep,got them all in one shot didnt you,progressive?

        Cheers!
        -CC.

    • Old Henry

      Ditto Warrior from another resident in the Land of Stincoln!

      However, not living in Chi Ka Go I am not quite as hard-pressed as there is a “somewhat” lower cost of living out here inna sticks. However, our property values continue to decline and the property TAXES continue to climb. Obama Math??

    • http://naver samurai

      Well said Warrior. Sook Young and I live in Indiana and our taxes aren’t too bad. In fact, they are lower than the states around us. This is one of the major reasons, along with being a right to work state, for us having lower unemployment than the states that surround us. Michigan, Wisconsin, Illinois, and Ohio are all “BLUE STATES”, while Indiana is a “RED STATE.” Is this just a coincidence? I don’t think so. If your state is controled by the 5th column (libturds, progturds, secularists, ect.), they tend to be more broke and have much higher taxes. Why is this when they say that they are the party of the people? Here is s great video showing what we need to do as a country to turn things around. This man is no lawyer, no politician, but he is a doctor (MD type). He makes a lot of sense. But alas! I expect to be given grief and personal attacks from the 5th column on it.

      http://www.conservativevideos.com/2013/02/doctor-slams-political-correctness-in-front-of-obama-at-the-national-prayer-breakfast/

      Though he talks about being PC and healthcare also, it is a very good video. Though he mentions about how our Christian founding fathers believed and relied on God, just listen to what he says about the Battle of Fort McHenry. Accurate historical facts that cannot be denied. I dare any 5th columner to prove this man wrong. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!

      You need both love of country and faith in God to be a patriot. The man in the video is a patriot, but the 5th columners are not.

      “One of the beautiful boasts of our municipal jurisprudence is that Christianity is a part of the Common Law. There never has been a period in which the Common Law did not recognize Christianity as lying at its foundations. I verily believe Christianity Necessary to the support of civil society.”

      Joseph Story
      Supreme Court Justice
      Father of American Jurisprudence

      • Karolyn

        Sam – Take a look at the red state of SC! A right-to-work state with low taxes but rampant poverty. No jobs, no industry. Why would industry want to move here? The education level is low and there is no infrastructure. The republicans have a chokefield on SC and are choking the life out of it.

    • woodbutcher

      If these people want to leave, fine ! What we should do then is charge a tariff on these people if they wanna do business in America ! Many of these people would come running back ! We’re still the biggest Market in the world, as long as the rich don’t suck the rest of the life out of the Middle Class !

      These traitors want to leave because of a 39% tax rate, when the Patriot wealthy that built our Country, had a top tax rate of 73% from 1950 to 80 !!! We have enough rich leech’s in our Country ! It will give the rest of us a better chance, to fulfill our dream’s ! Or good revenue from the tariff, if those that left want to do business here !!!!!!!

      • Bob666

        Yo Woodbutcher,
        Ever hear of the Smoot Hartley Act of 1931?

      • Tony

        T he tax rate may have been that high but very few, if any, ever paid any where that amount. There were a lot more tax deductions back then.

        • MLR

          Tony,
          The very highest tax rate was 91% and you are right very few if anyone paid it, not because of deductions, but they reinvested their money into American Business’s, rather than pay that rate. That’s why the standard of living was so much better in the 1950′s and 60′s. working class people were paid more equitably. The CEO didn’t make several million, or sometimes tens or even hundreds of millions, like many do nowadays. One person working could support his family. Then they lowered business taxes, raised working class income taxes. The American companies took their tax breaks, became Multi/National, started sending manufacturing jobs overseas. lower wages, more money in their pockets.
          The global economy took over. Propaganda about how American made was inferior to foreign made. Funny thing in most countries American made is considered the best. People started buying the foreign made crap to save a dollar, because their wages were getting lower all the time. If they still had a job, then came more and more people on the dreaded welfare. Or more and more buying on credit, The income gap getting larger and larger. Now to make things even worse, your wonderful conservative Supreme Court okays the so called Citizens United sham so Big Business can give unlimited funds to the Politicians to get even more from the Government. And these people think it’s a sin because people are getting food stamps. I think maybe the very rich are the ones that are doing the sins. I have a good job, pay my taxes, been on unemployment for maybe 4 months in 40 years of working. Just to let you know I am not a welfare bum, like so many will say, I am also pro business, but also for the working class guy like myself. When the Greed at the very top kicked in things in this country started to go to hell.

          • Bob666

            Yo MLR,
            very well put!

          • DD

            Well said MLR.

    • Wellarmed

      Agreed Warrior. One of the greatest failings of our nation was allowing local governments to institute a property tax. Of all the different forms of taxation I find property taxes to be the most offensive, as it makes it so a person never really owns their property up to the day they die.

      If one looks at what is happening in Greece in this regard, it is creating the justification for the government to steal ones property or render it useless. They will have the utilities turned off for failure to pay the property taxes.

      Illinois is in a terrible position with the unfunded liabilities in regards to their pension obligations. I found it amazing that all of my liberal friends frothing at the mouth when Governor Walker of Wisconsin failed to let his state fall into insolvency. I do feel he did the right thing balancing his states budget at all costs, but I do see a failure on his and the legislatures part in that cuts should have begun first in their compensation before they touched anyone else.

    • Dave67

      Here is a thought Warrior, Let CA, NY, IL NJ keep more of their money by having states like AK, MS, AL, KY, SC etc pay their own way instead of leeching of the giver states like CA, NY, IL, and NJ.

      Radical concept I know to have conservative states pay for their own pork… But its an idea who’s time have come.

      • Old Henry

        Not radical at all Dave67. It is an excellent idea. We can ALL keep OUR money.

        Maybe you are catchin on.

    • ONTIME

      A good reason to leave Ca.which many have done and I reside in Nv now and lease a place in Ca, this way it is write off. I will be looking closer at Panama soon and if it’s what I hope it to be, duel citzenship will be in my future….screw the commies who are messing up my country.

  • Jamie

    Thanks again Wayne. for pointing out the truth.

    • sam1966

      I second that motion! Here is what our Constitution is based on and how our government is to do things, no matter what the 5th column says.

      http://www.freedomoutpost.com/2013/02/what-is-the-foundation-of our-constitution/

      Like I’ve told numerous 5th columners here, we are a Christian nation. If we get back to God, Jesus, and the ways of tithing, then we will surely recover and reattain our status in the world. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!

      You need both love of country and faith in God to be a patriot.

      “If My people who are called by My name will humble themselves, and pray and seek My face, and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin and heal their land.”

      2 Chronicles 7:14

      *Take the hint 5th column.

  • rhcrest

    But Wayne, shame on you for not wanting to pay it forward and pay your fair share to the freeloaders who want to relax all day at your expense. You should have been glad to put the welfare of strangers above that of your own family. Anyone who advocates that people take literally food out of the mouths of their own children and give it to strangers is truly sick in the head. I think at this point that the welfare crowd ought to be allowed to sink or swim and all welfare payments should be stopped. If they sink then it will decrease the surplus population a la Scrooge and crime will go way down and the rest of us can keep the money that WE WORKED FOR and life will be a whole lot better. If they swim then they can join the rest of civilized society instead of being a thief of other people’s money via the legalized theft of taxation by the gov;t.

    • JJM123

      Harsh – but true. Private charity for those who actually need help is more discerning against parasites.

      • Old Henry

        JJM

        That is the way it used to be. Then the communists aka liberals, being the good gangsters they are, decided they wanted their cut.

    • Kinetic1

      rhcrest,
      Is that the whole story? Are taxes collected simply to allow “lazy” people to get by without working? Yes, taxes are too high in some states, but how well are the “low tax” states really doing? Mississippi has an income tax rate of just 3% to 5%, but they are also number two on the list of states receiving more Federal money than they pay in. Farm subsidies, nutrition aid, anti-poverty aid and retirement programs, all Federally funded programs that help the state keep their own costs down. Alaska, Louisiana, W. Virginia, N. Dakota, Alabama, the list goes on and on. And who pays for these Federal programs? New York, New Jersey, Minnesota, California. Yes, there are some low tax states that pay more than they get back (Texas) but the balance is VERY uneven. So are we to assume that a disproportionate number of lazy people live in less populated and more rural red states?

      • alpha-lemming

        You make a good argument………….. that the Government spends too much.

    • wizard of oz

      One problem with them sinking…..they will begin stealing for real from anyone and everyone around them who still have something to steal. They have been conditioned to an entitlement mentality by decades of welfare and will not go away silently. This is a long-time socialist/progressive/collectivist plan to incite civil unrest followed by chaos and then martial law imposition. See: ‘Cloward-Piven’ for details.

      • Old Henry

        Yeah Wizard, have you seen that video on the internet of that obese Obamaphone woman outside the Romney campaign rally? Perfect example.

    • Mark Dial

      A kill zone is an old military tactic for long term ambush. An area is set aside in this case 25% of the world for poverty and dependence, confuse, demoralize. restrict any future means to escape, restrict transportation, restrict money movement, restrict information and rewrite history, to disarm. Taken down to the weakest point. On this scale you want a civil war based on an surprise unjust economic event of confiscation as a race war is to limited. The object is to bring out hidden weapons use up food and use up limited ammo, on it self and not the government. As with the King riots you wait a week when their is a need for medical, food and protection to “save the day”. The uneducated victims will taken to a public place to be “safe”. From their taken to FEMA camps where a person will be vaccinated with nano tech to blur the mind, Then raped, beaten, starved, used for occult practices for about 5 months. Then in a public showing to the world. Mass murdered on order by thousands of guillotines that have been imported.

      • mamamia

        You are one paranoid psych case.

      • sam1966

        Well said Mark. But alas! I see that mamamia hasn’t been following the news and the issues on this site. As Sylvester the Cat’s nephew would say when he (Sylvester) couldn’t catch a mouse, “For shame.:, just before he puts a paper bag over his head to hide his shame. This looks interesting:

        http://www.freedomoutpost.com/2013/02/the-restoration-of-the-west-and-how-to-do-it/

        FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!

        You need both love of country and faith in God to be a patriot. This leave mamamia out.

        “And ye have done worse than your fathers; for, behold, ye walk every one after the imagination of his evil heart, that they may not hearken unto me.”

        Jeremiah 16:12

      • Donna

        What on earth are you talking about???? Are you paranoid?

      • Texas Ride

        Points to ponder Mamamia!

        Why is the government buying enormous amounts of ammo, much more than at any other time ever?

        Why does obamacare fund a Civilian Army, better than our military, with allegiance only to the President?

        Why is the government trying to confiscate firearms of private citizens?

        Why is the government raising taxes and constantly implementing additional ones?

        Why are our freedoms being taken away?

        Why was the NDAA passed?

        Why does the regime want to use drones against its citizens?

        Why does the regime want unlimited power to arrest and/or put people on “kill lists.?”

        Why are FEMA camps being made ready? (There is one about 20-miles from me).

        Why are there thousands of “UN military vehicles and weapons” being moved outside major cities in the U.S.?

        Why will thousands of UN soldiers be sent to the U.S.?

        Why is our military being dismantled and defunded?

        Mamamia, just start with these, there are many more questionable activities to be answered for by government. This regime is usurping nearly total power over the country and any wealth still left. Maybe you need not be so blind.

    • http://google David

      How correct you are. These social grabbers receive government doles and from those in the community they live. We open our churches and food banks to those truly in need and seek those ashamed to accept help. Others with Nikes, iphones, with 3 cars are refused-unless they want to donate, Fat chance.

      • Old Henry

        David:

        You are spot on. Yesterday, 2/6/13, I happened to turn on the radio and heard Limbaugh talking about a police report that a woman recently filed regarding her purse that was stolen from the back seat of her car.
        The prese was $400, her wallet was $200, she had $800 in cash, but the real issue was her FOOD STAMPS were also in her purse.

      • Karolyn

        And you believe EVERYTHING Limbaugh has to say? He probably laughs every day at all the people who worshiip his words like they are gospel.

      • Texas Ride

        Karolyn, I bet you can relate to this woman about the thought of losing her “food stamps!”

    • restorefreedom

      Survival of the fittest tells it all. Pretty sick of freeloaders working the system to death and that includes illegal immigrants.

    • Old Henry

      rh:

      Liberalism is a mental illness.

      And our gubmint mirrors our society / population.

  • burt

    those imbeciles will never understand how it was possible to get more taxes in AFTER lowering them. Liberalism is a mental disease and we see it every day.

    • budget thinker

      Oh I am so sick and tired of being behind a “welfare” person who has the government paying for the food and housing but yet they rid a better car and live ina better house than my own most live in a single house section 8 so to speak.

      • Donna

        I work with Section 8 people all the time (as a Realtor.) Often they are disabled or single mothers with no help from the fathers of the children. They are white and black (no Hispanics or Asians at this point.) They do get housing and a little bit for utilities. I assume they need food stamps, but not sure. They do not drive good cars, if they have a car at all. I usually have to pick them up to go look at housing because they don’t have a car. Most of them try to have at least a part-time job to help pay for their cost of living. If they have young children, they can’t afford to work full-time because there is no child care available without costing more than they could make with minimum wage jobs. Some of them made an effort to go to school to try to get some kind of degree, even if it’s just an Associate degree so they can get better jobs. There are very few who try to milk the system. They were victims of the men in their lives, or if disabled, their health care problems. They WANT to be OFF the system unless their health is the issue. They ALL want decent paying jobs so they can afford child care and better their lives. Their housing is usually lousy in a lousy part of town. I try to help them live in better areas where they can have some pride in their homes. So, don’t go knocking the poor who need help. If you ever find yourself in that position, you would be thankful we have a government that cares for their people, rather than a government who takes it all and gives nothing back like many countries around the world.

      • http://personalliberty Alondra

        Donna, please watch whom DEMONcrats create/manufacture/produce and why our country is falling apart

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wtiY6fc4u7Q

      • http://personalliberty Alondra

        Donna, Those “needy” are receiving “obama bucks” which he takes from hard working Americans’ wallet and “generously” pours into the freeloaders and sluggards hands.

        “Obama bucks!” (2:34) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=arOGHY27JwI

        “A slack hand causes poverty, but the hand of the diligent makes rich.” – King Solomon (Pr. 10:4)

        • Donna

          That’s a ridiculous comment. The people in need are because of the Wall Street Wacos that caused the economic crisis leaving hard working people with no jobs. Have you never lost a job? If not, you are one of the lucky ones. If you ever lose your job, I hope you’re wealthy enough to not need food stamps.

      • Concerned

        @Donna
        You are being pulled in by your big heart. I ended up being a single mom of 4 young ones and never went on welfare. I got a job waiting tables full time and went to school full time. It was very hard but worth it. I was able to purchase my home in my name only and went thru a remodel on the house. As I always tell people where there is a will there is a way as long as you put God first.

      • http://personalliberty Alondra

        “Obama bucks and free cell phone” http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Xx0CTNg_Ik

        “Go to the ant, O sluggard…WITHOUT having any chief, officer, or ruler…he gathers his food in harvest. HOW LONG will you lie there, O sluggard? A little sleep, a little slumber, a little folding of the hands to rest, and POVERTY WILL COME UPON YOU like a robber.” – King Solomon (Pr.6:6-11)

      • http://personalliberty Alondra

        “ Free ObamaHouses” http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gKrp81SINkc

        “The soul of the SLUGGARD DESIRES, AND HAS NOTHING; but the soul of the diligent shall be richly supplied.” – King Solomon (Pr.13:4)

      • http://personalliberty Alondra

        She Got 15 Kids by 3 different daddies and now she says “Somebody needs to pay for all my children and I … all us suffering…somebody need to be held accountable” (@1:55) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U0QBD6CXgdo

        “Who is slothful, will not roast his game; but the diligent will get precious wealth.” – King Solomon (Pr.12:27)

      • http://personalliberty Alondra

        “Free ObamaHouses” http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gKrp81SINkc

        “And they shall build houses, and inhabit them; and they shall plant vineyards, and eat the fruit of them. They shall not build, and another inhabit; they shall not plant, and another eat. For as the days of a tree, so shall be the days of My people, and My elect shall long enjoy the WORK OF THEIR HANDS.” (Is.65:21, 22)

      • http://personalliberty Alondra

        The drunk sluggards say: “The rich must pay”
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svvaX84oNgQ

        “For to everyone, who has, will more be given, and he will have an abundance. But from the one, who has not, even what he has will be taken away.’” – Jesus Christ (Matthew 25:14-29)

      • http://personalliberty Alondra

        According to the Brunswick, GA Police Dept. report the woman’s purse was missing from her parked car. The PURSE was valued at $400.00, her WALLET was valued at $200.00 and there was $800.00 CASH in the purse … Also missing were the woman’s FOOD STAMP cards. The story ran as a crime brief in the Brunswick newspapers on April 3.
        http://www.theburningplatform.com/?p=33641

        I am wondering how many hard-working taxpayers in this country have a $400.00 purse, a $200.00 wallet and $800.00 cash in their wallet? How the woman, who is qualified for the Food Stamps can afford such pricy purse & wallet?

        • Donna

          They didn’t tell you that the wallet was purchased at Good Will for $10 and the $800 in cash was from her monthly part time income to pay rent and feed her family.

      • http://personalliberty Alondra

        Donna, we do NOT talk about who REALLY need help and support. We are talking about a blood-sucking flees, mosquitos, leech, ticks, vampire who chose to live off the others hard working people.

        Those who work and support society, have to support those who ARE NOT WILLING to take care of themselves and theirs.

        The FACT:
        In 1969 there were 2,878,000 people on food stamps in America. In 2000 there were 17,194,000 on the system (30 years increase 597%). Today there are approximately 45,000,000 people (12 years increase 267%). on food stamps at a cost of nearly $80 billion per year.

        “If anyone is not willing to work, NEITHER SHOULD HE EAT. For we hear that SOME AMONG YOU WALK IN IDLENESS, NOT BUSY AT WORK, BUT BUSYBODIES. Now such persons we command and encourage in the LORD Jesus Christ to DO THEIR WORK QUIETLY and EARN THEIR OWN LIVING.” – Apostle Paul (2Thes.3:10-12)

        • Donna

          The increase in food stamps today is a result of the economic crisis. Those are people in need. As to the difference 30 years ago, the population has also increased since then. As a matter of fact, 100 years ago there were 1.2+/- Billion people in the world, there are now 7 Billion. Eventually we won’t have enough resources on the planet for anyone (except the very rich.)

      • Michael J.

        Donna,
        Single parent families are the spawn of Political Correctness, or decline by design. Cultural Marxism seeks to convince minorities they are oppressed, engineer the breakdown of the family, attack religion.
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=acjIw7cVc2k

      • charlie

        Well, ‘budget’, the problem in America is explained just below your post!
        Donna thinks we are in great shape, Donna knows the government is going well. Donna just loves this administration and the giveaway mentality.
        And the worst part – Donna gets one vote – no limit because of a logic-challenge or reasoning deficiency.

        Many people will be “surprised” when the bubble pops – Donna will blame everyone else for not giving her a warning.

        • Donna

          The bubble will definitely pop if the Republicans allow us to go over the fiscal cliff and/or refuse to raise the debt ceiling. It will be recession all over again, maybe depression. So you better hope they wake up and smell the coffee because the popped bubble will be on their heads.

          • Patriot

            Clearly, you have no understanding of the economic disaster that we are currently propagating with bad ideas. I respect your voicing of your opinions here. But I am again reminded of the masses of people that support ideology over substance. We are approaching 17 TRILLION dollars in debt. The LAW of the LAND REQUIRES that a budget is presented and singed into law every year. We haven’t had one in 5 years. For the very first time in history our GDP is lower than our deficit. Just reported was the fact that our economy shrunk below 1%, and you want to blame someone – those vile Republicans – for this, and think that raising the debt ceiling is a good idea.
            The devaluation of our dollar continues every single day. Do you understand the word ‘unsustainable’? Do you have any notion of basic economic theory? Probably not, but I am sure that you could grasp the idea that any other entity, business, coropration, or even KINGDOM in the world operating with these completely insane economic conditions would be called BANKRUPT in any other part of the world.
            This isnt about evil Republicans holding back the brilliance of the well meaning Democrats. This is the result of BOTH parties destroying every bit of what it is that is required to sustain and grow this nation. It is far beyond time that people drop their silly emotionally based party affiliations and realize that all of them, every single one of them is responsible for the massive economic devastation that we are surely experiencing now, and will continue to get worse in the future. Fiat currency has NEVER in the history of the world been sustainable. And while you point your fingers at those horrible Republicans, those in ALL poisitions of power in this country are ensuring that our Republic never recovers with their politically based ideas that are designed to do no more than kick the current problem down the road a couple more years. And soon, our once great nation will look just like Greece.

          • Donna

            Yes we have a high debt now, but now with the economy struggling, we don’t need to tackle the debt until we get people back to work and for the government to invest in getting people back to work. The debt can be dealt with when we are strong again. Now is not the time.

          • R. Fine

            Before the last election there were a number of American celebs who said they would move up here to Canada if Obama was reelected. We found that notion kind of funny seeing as we enjoy universal socialized health care up her. No one ever has to worry for a second about being able to afford any medical procedure. I’m not sure if any of those yahoos ever moved here.

          • DD

            I questioned myself who would really move to Canada with their National Health Care system. Wouldn’t they be dissapointed that they were in a Socialist society. They’d have to move back the the US where health care is catch as catch can. I have a good friend who lives and loves Canada, especially for their health care.

          • http://smoovious.wordpress.com Smoovious Laxness

            > Yes we have a high debt now, but now with the economy
            > struggling, we don’t need to tackle the debt until we get
            > people back to work and for the government to invest in
            > getting people back to work. The debt can be dealt with
            > when we are strong again. Now is not the time.

            Now is precisely the time… years ago was precisely the time. We are where we are now because we keep putting off our obligations and not dealing with it.

            Our economy is struggling because of our crushing debt.

            We are week now, because of our crushing debt.

            We have to stop the madness, the out of control spending, the apathy towards our debt problems, the taking of more and more of what we earn which is just killing our economy, FIRST.

            To ignore this problem, is just willful ignorance and cowardice.

            The debt is the problem. Not an afterthought.

            It should be our #1 priority.

            – Smoov

          • http://naver samurai

            OMG! I agree with you on this. See, we can agree on some things. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!

            You need both love of country and faith in God to be a patriot.

          • http://smoovious.wordpress.com Smoovious Laxness

            You don’t need to have faith or belief in gods to be a patriot…

            (this is the attitude that keeps driving me away from Republicans…)

            – Smoov

          • Bob666

            Yo Smoovious Laxness,

            A voice of reason and that is what drove me away from the GOP in the 80′s as well.

          • Donna

            We can’t ever be Greece. Greece can’t print money, they are a dependent state.

          • Patriot

            And of course, you miss the entire point and in so doing, prove mine.
            I was referring to austerity, and masses of people fighting for food. But! I have wasted enogh space and energy here.

          • Donna

            We know austerity doesn’t work. We need to build on the current slow growth to make it stronger not cut it out from under.

      • http://personalliberty Alondra

        Charlie says: “Donna just loves this administration and the giveaway mentality.”

        The “giveaway mentality” as per se is not bad. ALL charities are based on the VOLUNTARY “giveaway mentality”.

        What is disgusting that the progressive/socialistic/collectivistic mentality is the “FORCEFUL TAKEAWAY” the hard earned money from the hard working people and give to the parasites of the society, WHO DOES NOT WISH TO WORK. This is the Libtards’ definition of the “FAIR SHARE” a.k.a. Libtardic Compassionate REDISTRIBUTION of the people “WEALTH”.

        “Everyone must pay their fair share” – Redistribution by the Thug-in-Chief barack hussein obama a.k.a. Barry Soetoro a.k.a. barrack obama a.k.a. barrack dunham a.k.a. barry dunham a.k.a. barak MOUNIR Ubayd a.k.a. HARRISON J. BOUNEL

        Again, this is not about the needys. This is about the parasites/freeloaders/sluggards, who learned how to play the system and the system not only DOES NOT CARE, but produces and supports “blood suckers”.

        “If anyone is not willing to work, NEITHER SHOULD HE EAT. For we hear that SOME AMONG YOU WALK IN IDLENESS, NOT BUSY AT WORK, BUT BUSYBODIES. Now such persons we command and encourage in the LORD Jesus Christ to DO THEIR WORK QUIETLY and EARN THEIR OWN LIVING.” – Apostle Paul (2Thes.3:10-12)

        • Donna

          I hope you’re not including those who WANT to work but can’t find jobs. There are at least 11M of those people who need help through no fault of their own.

      • Old Henry

        Well Donna, there is a BIG difference between a safety net and a hammock.

        It would be interesting to know how many of those people, if they voted, supported the foreign national Kenyan. Little Barry is the reason most cannot find a job as there are virtually no jobs out there to be had.

        Haven’t those women heard of “The Pill”? Norplant? Or, here’s a wild one, ABSTENANCE?

        Why had the court system not gone after the “fathers” for support money? Once located they should be put under the knife and a vasectomy performed.

      • Old Henry

        Alondra:

        Good links! Thank you.

      • Bill

        Donna,
        My wife owns a property management company and she has had nothing but bad luck and drama from the section 8 tenants. She advises her owners not to go section 8 (if they care about their property) and currently has no section 8 tenants

      • Don in Ohio

        Budget and Donna,
        Let me tell you a little story.
        20 years ago, I did some computer work for a Public Housing Authority. They had about 6,000 rental units and 99% of the residents were black, female and single head of household with an average of 2+ kids. Neat trick, kids but no man. Of course they had a man but if they admitted it, they wouldn’t qualify for the help. Black men are the reason the housing authorities exist!

        But here’s the best part.
        HUD (Housing and Urban Development) had just issued a new set of criteria for rating the performance of the housing authorities. There were 12 of them and all of them were related to how well they were doing keeping the units occupied. For example, overall vacancy had to be less than 5% (or something like that), Newly vacant units had to be refurbished within 60 days, etc. HUD was so strict, they had to advertise for tenants to keep the units filled!

        To me the criteria should be; How fast can the tenants get a job and move out. How can the authority help them get training so they can get a job.

        In other words, HUD’s actions guarantee there will always be a need!!!!
        Typical government, invent a need so they can provide a solution….

    • Texas Ride

      Liberalism is a Mental Disease, true. It is insanity to keep trying the same marxist ideas over and over again when they always fail!

      Liberalism can’t survive without Conservative money!

  • Bob666

    Yawn,
    Another Root Rant.

    • Nadzieja Batki

      Yet you made yourself read it, or did your handlers give you the ultimatum that you won’t get paid if you don’t read and comment.

      • Bob666

        Yo Nadzieja,
        Built a business, sold it -made much mula. no one pays me to read Root’s drivle. I just get amused a the $hit he stirs up with simpletons like you.

    • vietnamvet1971

      another Liberal rant, RAH, RAH Go Oblowhard and Save Bob666, 666 i have seen that number some where… let me see oh the Bible. oops,,, sorry I mentioned that word.

    • http://www.facebook.com/douglas.sawdy Douglas Sawdy

      @bob666,I take it you love the devil.News flash.We will be cutting off your welfair as we the people are tired of feeding the weak and uneducated nitwits.

      • Bob666

        Yo Douglas,
        I dont get any form of public assistance, never have and would not be aware as to how to get it.

        I am willing to bet that I pay more in taxes a year than you do, feel like a putz yet?

      • http://yahoo.com BillT

        And 666 – What’s your point that you pay more in taxes than Douglas does. Are you trying to point out the fact that you live in a state like california or new york???

        • Bob666

          Yo Bill T,
          Life is good in Sunny South Florida.

      • http://personalliberty Alondra

        Yo, evil creature Bobby,

        If you would pay more taxes, you would have no time to come here each day and masturbate your stupidly ridiculous NONSENSE.

        You are a LIAR and you are of your father the devil, and the DESIRES OF YOUR FATHER YOU ARE DOING … You do NOT STAND IN THE TRUTH, because THERE IS NO TRUTH IN YOU. When you speak a LIE, you speak from your own resources, for YOU ARE A LIAR AND THE MESSENGER OF IT. (John 8:44)

        But we know your end:
        “But the cowardly, unbelieving,[e] abominable, murderers, sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone” (Revelation 21:8)

        • Bob666

          [personal attacks removed]

      • Old Henry

        Bob666, why don’t you pay MORE? Write the check Bob, write the check(s)!

        You pay more, I’ll pay less and keep my property.

        • Bob666

          Old Henry,
          I did not get it by parting with it.

      • Old Henry

        BillT:

        I think 666 might be Joe Spano’s twin brother. They both seem to have the Eddie Haskell syndrom.

    • Cait

      Thank you so very much for your value added response to something that makes more sense than stealing from the few to pay for the greedy many.

      Your words are so valuable to those of us who want to know what we are up against: The clever liberals who are incapable of a rational debate so they have to attempt to eliminate the competition with ridiculous and unnecessary disregard.

      Bully for you, being part of the educated elite who are supposed to be so intellectually superior that you have an answer for everything.

      I suppose, though, that you are much to intelligent to give debate a try?

      • Cait

        apologies for the typo: Much TOO intelligent.

      • Bob666

        Yo Cait,
        “The clever liberals who are incapable of a rational debate so they have to attempt to eliminate the competition with ridiculous and unnecessary disregard”.

        It has been my obsevation that youcan’t have a debate with people who make statement like this.

        A closed mind gathers no knowledge.

    • alpha-lemming

      69696969….. Bob doing a somersault….

      664 & 668……. Bobs next door neighbors…

      449.50…….. Bob on sale for 25% off….

      333….. Bobs half-a$$ed political philosophy…

      • Bob666

        Mega Yawnnnnnn.

    • http://www.facebook.com/benjamin.fox.98892 Benjamin Fox

      Bob666 are you proud of your demonic rants and put downs? Your a idiot Godless evil person from your own comments and someday you’ll be in a very hot climate with your real 666 and no water to go around.

      • Bob666

        Yo Bennie,
        “Bob666 are you proud of your demonic rants and put downs? Your a idiot Godless evil person from your own comments and someday you’ll be in a very hot climate with your real 666 and no water to go around”

        So profound

  • nc

    Wayne. thanks for this recent (?) news of doing things outside the States for “tax purposes! Remember the” Rumble in the Jungle” and the” Thrilla in Manila”? When were they done ? Last week? Don’t think so?
    Remember the bush tax cuts that were to create jobs in the last decade? Where did they go? Off shore rich folks accounts and corporate tax shelters? They sure as hell weren’t creating jobs when we were losing 2.6 million of them in 2008!
    Hiding things from the government is an old game! Even Jesus had to shake a few Jews to get them to render unto Caesar!

    • Tigerous

      Yup. Bush’s fault. YAWWWN

    • Rich Armstrong

      The tax cuts worked well in the early 2000s. The collapse in 2008 was a cumlitive effect from the changes made to the CRA in 98 – remember Bill saying that was the highlight of his 8 years – and the Graham, Leach Blilely Act of 1999. Those were the two time bombs that finally exploded ten years later. Just one quick question – everybody on the left is always talking about Bush allowing the recession to happen. Since that implies that it was obvious it was going to occur, why didn’t the Dems offer any bills, suggestions or become proactive in any form to stop it? Was it because Bush was that much smarter than anybody on the left and they couldn’t see it coming? Or that the changes to the CRA and the GLB bill were strongly Dem supported so they chose to let it happen? Or that letting the recession happen was a better political option for the left to take the WH so they said screw the country? I’ve asked this question of several left wing quasi thinkers and never get a straight answer.

      • S.C.Murf

        That’s because they aren’t straight Rich they swing both ways

        up the hill
        airborne

      • nc

        Rich, have you forgotten that the Republicans controlled both houses of Congress for the first 6 years of the bush administration following the tax cuts??? The corrections and adjustments that should have been done were in the hands of Republicans not the Democrats! Right???

        When they were allowing bush to fight two wars on our credit card would have been a good place to start with some adjustments and correction! Neither the bush tax cuts nor the wars were compulsive!

      • Capitalist at Birth

        Ditto. Unfortunately, all of the Totalitarian Socialists, have their hands over their eyes and their ears. Now we need to convince them to put their hands over their mouths. What ya think?

      • Capitalist at Birth

        nc, No one has forgotten anything. If you would care to debate what happened, I am ready and loaded with the facts. Something you seem oblivious to seeing or hearing. Do you know what the budget deficits were prior to fiscal years 2007 and 2008 as a total of the budget deficits from fiscal 2001 thru 2008? Look it up. The President elect in 2001 and the Congress inherited a recession. We can debate what caused that recession, that actually began during the 2nd quarter in 2000. The effects of that down turn were amplified by the terrorist attack on September 11, 2001. You can argue that it wasn’t necessary to increase the deficit by fighting the war on terrorism, or how the war was handled, but can you really argue that it wasn’t necessary to respond to the deadliest attack on the continental U.S. in our history? But of course you are probably confused and your head spinning with this presentation of this paltry sum of facts. Aren’t you?

      • Alan

        nc,

        The Republicans worked hard to stop the financial crises which they saw coming when they were in control from 2000-2006 but the Democrats filibustered the bills that would have prevented the fall. When the Democrats took control of Congress the fall came quicker in 2008 because the Democrats destroyed the foundation of the country which is housing. Prior to the Democrats taking power building, was so robust that builders, architects, draftsmen and others in the building industry couldn’t keep up with the demand. Most people don’t know this or are too naive to understand how the financial base of the country operates. This is one of the reasons why we have such an inept President in office with Obama.

        The post by Rich Armstrong is quite accurate.

        With the robust economy the USA had with the first six years of Bush, paying for the wars was possible if the Democrats wouldn’t have destroyed our housing industry. World War II cost the country more on a percentage basis than the recent wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. WWII helped the USA get out of a recession but the wars of Iraq and Afghanistan looked like they put America into a recession but our recession was actually caused by the Democrats when they destroyed America’s housing industry which is the country’s foundation. To realize this look back at the robust housing market after WWII and the growth it caused it practically every other area.

      • Rich Armstrong

        nc, The Republicans did have hearings about the financial implications of the housing market when they controlled the House. It was turned into a race and gay issue by Barney Frank and three black Congressmen. The hearing used to be on youtube…it still may be. The right never had a super majority that would allow them to rule without the consent of the left. That also brings up another story about all the things the left complain about – tax rates for the rich, money being sent to fund a war, etc. – they were only possible because some of the Democrats voted for them. That’s very different than the stimulus and Obamacare that were rammed down America’s throat in 2009.

      • moonbeam

        S.C.Murf says:

        “That’s because they aren’t straight Rich they swing both ways”

        Your statement rings of literal truth. Think John Travolta.

      • matforce

        Rich, to assert that the Gramm, Leach Bliley Act was bi-partisan is to invite derision. The tally in the Senate was decisively a Republican Bill. Republicans’ yea votes = 53, Democrates yea votes = 1. Republican nay votes = 0, Democratic ney votes = 44.

        The House is another matter. House Republicans yea = 208, Democrats yea = 152. Republican nay votes = 6, Democrats nay votes = 50.

        Deregulation is always a Republican idea. Given the human imperfection factor (especially greed), the “smartest men in the room,” who thought the gravy train would absorb their irresponsibility and greed and continue on forever, unscathed by their malfeasence, (and that’s giving them the benefit of the doubt that they even cared to begin with); the Enron scandal, Long Term Capital scandal, Bernie Madoff scandal, Savings and Loan crisis, the Subprime Mortage Loan crisis that finally brought down our financial house were all perpetrated by those who took deregulation and the growing tide of pressure on those charged with the job of overseeing the scant regulations that were in place to look the other way during the financial free-for-all as a sign that they could do as they pleased with impunity. So they did. And without defined rules of conduct to bring indictments, how many of the perpetrators actually paid for their fiscal malfeasance?

        • Bob666

          Yo Mat,
          very well put.

    • http://yahoo.com BillT

      NC – when are you and the other not so smart people going to realize – things started going downhill for the Bush administration in 2006 – when the Dems held the house and the senate.

      • http://www.facebook.com/benjamin.fox.98892 Benjamin Fox

        BillT, you expect the dumb and blind to learn real history? They haven’t the brain power to do that friend, they love being on the plantation of the dumb and stupid blind, they enjoy being butt heads and the lie’s they tell, poor little demonic idiots one and all. God Bless Freind in the real world:

  • UWorlds1

    Either you pay taxes to educate children OR you compromise national security by letting in foreigners that have been educated abroad but may not have America’s best interest at heart. People need to think this over carefully. The number of immigrants will dry up one day.

    • http://donthaveone Beberoni

      Sure they will, and I will tell you why. When the hispanics take over, and if you look at their numbers, they are growing faster than any culture, they will protect their own interests and lock all others out. The Mexican borders are more secure than the US, at least in how they treat those who violate it. Once they take over, even though they now vote for the liberals, they wont poly-coddle to them about human rights of those who sneak in. They will imprison them or shoot them as they come in. No doubt about it. They will protect their own interests, something the American culture has given up to suck up to all the small interest groups. Pretty sad.

      • vietnamvet1971

        It is coming, The United States of Mexicans. with Abortion Killing our Future American citizens and they are turning to the Illegals to re-populate our Country. They want TAX PAYING people ready to pay their “FAIR SHARE” and UNBORN Aborted children cost to much and takes to much time to start paying the Big, Bad Gimme-mint.

    • Nadzieja Batki

      UWorlds1, the long line to America will never dry up, illegal or legal, even if you made the world into one Utopia that is planned. Right now you can buy the basic necessities of food, clothing and shelter including something like baby wipes, diapers,toothpaste, toothbrushes that have American companies names on them in some Godforsaken ratholes of Africa, M E, or South America. Making the whole world a consumer society will not create Freedom and Liberty that most Americans despise because they have it. What a shame how most Americans despise their heritage and are tearing down their foundation.

      • http://yahoo.com BillT

        In a way, it’s not the americans doing this, it’s the politicians that the stupids keep votong into office.

    • Warrior

      Oh, it is “much, much” more than “educate”. It’s a “baby sitting” program, a “jobs program”, a “nourishment” program, a “fund raising” program, an “indoctrination” program. It has now become a “progressive” self perpetuating cash machine. But, hey, I keep forgetting, it’s “all about the chillens”. Right…………..!

      • Chester

        Warrior, not sure how you get a fundraiser in with all the “tax money gobblers” you listed, unless you were just slamming public education in general. Question, if it IS a baby sitting system, why do you think it might be needed? If there is a “Jobs” program, why would it be there if there is no need? As far as indoctrination programs, Mr. Root runs a damned fine one on his little “news” briefs. It appears that you share his views, so he is preaching to the choir when he speaks to you.

    • Capitalist at Birth

      I don’t think public education has worked well for us. Do you? we spend more per pupil on education than any other nation in the world, yer where do we rank? Do you know? Way down the totem pole. I am self educated in spite of the public school system, which was much better in the 50′s and 60′s than it is today. Fortunately I had the advantage of 4 years of Private schools before entering the public school system. I has studied Algebra, French, Spanish, English, Tap, Ballet, Speech and a whole host of subjects by the time I entered 4th grade in a public school. Thank God I was able to read the Newspaper at the age of 3 1/2. Their attempt at indoctrination failed on me. Unfortunately if was successful of far too many of my fellow baby boomers.

  • Karolyn

    Tina Turner gave up her US citizenship because she loves Switzerland and has lived there for many years. She, and I am sure others, do not fit into this paradigm. And just what is a “drove” anyway?

    • Nadzieja Batki

      Good riddance to Tina Turner. Now let her earn the millions from the Swiss if she can, which she won’t because she is a worn out has been.

      • Karolyn

        Jealous? Have you seen Tina Turner lately? And the fact is that she doesn’t have to “work” anymore.

      • Nadzieja Batki

        Karolyn, you are not very bright. Tina Turner to make herself look good pays people to make her look good. How long do you think her money will last when very little is coming in and she has to pay all the hangers on that live off of her, like lawyers, pr agents, her clothes makers, make up people, hairdressers, shoemakers, drivers, etc..

      • Karolyn

        Oh, Nadzieja, I am very “bright.” Why would you even take the time to write such rubbish. Your negativity amazes me. Tina has 3 homes in Europe; and it appears that she doesn’t have to work anymore and probably won’t for the rest of her life. She moved to Europe 30 years ago and is 72. There are 3 homes; and I don’t think she’s hurting for money.

      • http://personalliberty Alondra

        Nadzieja, Karolyn is so “BRIGHT” in her childish and overweight STUPIDITY that NO ONE can beat her STUPIDITY on this site.

        The WISE man King Solomon would say: The heart of fool Karolyn PROCLAIMS HER FOOLISHNESS. (Proverbs 12)

        And more than 2300 years ago another WISE man, the world’s most influential Ancient Greek Philosopher Plato said:

        “WISE men speak because THEY HAVE SOMETHING to say; FOOLS because they have to say something.”

        Time after time Karolyn just proves the assertions of these two great men.

        “The mouth of fools ALWAYS pours forth foolishness.” (Proverbs 15:2)

      • http://personalliberty Alondra

        Nadzieja, I forgot to cite the contemporary wise and sharp-eyed man, Ron White, who nailed it nicely:

        “You Can’t Fix Stupid. Stupid is FOR-EVER”
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0gxKStPXyn8)

      • Bob666

        Yo Nadzieja,
        you are one mad woman, Tina Rocks!

      • Karolyn

        Alondra – Why are you so nasty? You might consider seeking help.

      • http://personalliberty Alondra

        Karolyn – Why are you so sourly stupid?

        BTW, You NEVER proved my nastiness, but you are one who just parroting my comments, because your two-cell twisted crippled brain with high deficiency of the Grey matter is incapable to process the reality and produce and articulate any intelligible or rational thinking/reasoning.

        “A dupe lays open his folly.” – King Solomon (Proverbs 13:16)

        “You Can’t Fix Stupid. Stupid is FOR-EVER” – Ron White

      • Karolyn

        OMG, Alondra! You hurl insults like a maniac; and you’re telling me I haven’t “proved” your nastiness? You gotta be kiddin’! Read what you write. Do you just come here to release your pent up anger?

      • http://personalliberty Alondra

        It’s déjà vu all over again.

        Sluggish Karolyn, you still NOT prove my nastiness. It’s not news that libtards like you call the TRUTH “hate” & “anger”. I don’t need to read what I am writing, because I know what I am writing.

        I come here JUST to aim and expose your libtardic idiocy to those who does not know yet who you are – the sluggish godless parasite, who just spewing ridiculously disjointed & nonsensical liberal talking points.

        Res ipsa loquitur – THE THING ITSELF SPEAKS

        P.S. The wise man King Solomon would say: Do not speak in the hearing of a fool Karolyn, for SHE DESPISES THE KNOWLEDGE AND WISDOM.

    • vietnamvet1971

      Are your Bags packed and are you ready to LEAVE. Good Bye.

      • http://www.facebook.com/benjamin.fox.98892 Benjamin Fox

        vietnamvet1971; I’m a vietnamvet 1964 when we weren’t suppose to be there, LOL, I hope all those who hate America pack up and leave, wow, we could have 1000 acre ranches once the commies go back home. God Bless Brother:

    • TML

      Drove: noun – A number of oxen, sheep, or swine driven in a group; herd; flock. A large crowd of human beings, especially in motion.

    • mamamia

      Yes Karolyn, Tina has lived there for over 20 years. She likes it. I say “so what”. If you know Tina’s personal story you have to know that she dosn’t need to save 4% on her taxes. It’s about the serenity of your environment. I don’t blame her one bit for leaving the U.S. But it certainly wasn’t due to the tax rate. LOL

    • Ann

      For some reason ,this site doesn’t allow to reply for a reply, so I had to reply to myself. Here is my reply to your reply about housing and a glass which is half full:

      “First, you forgot that the situation in North Carolina, which, by the way, is Right To Work state is completely different than in California, which follows all the ‘recommendations’ of Obama administration and from where small businesses run away everywhere including North Carolina or oversea.
      Second, increasing sales of luxury houses which CNNMoney describes as a big achievement, is actually a very bad sign of economy in America, because it means that instead of investing in new businesses and new jobs, investors put their money in real estate which doesn’t produce many jobs or new research and development.
      I agree that looking to a glass as half full is better than as half empty. The problem is that currently, the glass looks pretty much upside down. “

      • http://smoovious.wordpress.com Smoovious Laxness

        > For some reason ,this site doesn’t allow to reply for a reply, so I had to reply to myself.

        If you get notifications of follow-up comments in your email, you can reply directly to the message using the reply link in the email.

        It isn’t perfect, but it does a better job placing your reply than the web site’s reply link.

        The site just needs a better method of handling comments overall. :(

        – Smoov

  • Karolyn

    Hey! Move to South Carolina! Low taxes! #6 in the top most corrupt states in the US! Poor infrastructure! High poverty level! Bad roads! High domestic violence rate! #1 in the nation in assault! #3 in women killed by men! Join the good ole boys for some fun ‘n fixin’s!

    • Alex Frazier

      OMG, don’t tell them to move here with us! We have enough refugees from liberal states already. I’m terrified that all the New Yorkers and Illinoians will move here, bringing their Democrat bullsh*t with them, and outnumber the home grown native population of God-fearing, moral, ethical conservatives.

      On that note, I would like to share the amusing thought that people in New York are leaving because life there sucks, while life here is excellent. And yet, they are so ignorant as to what it is that makes life in New York suck, and what it is that makes life here grand. So they flee the tyranny of New York to come to where taxes are lower, the cost of living is lower, the people are polite and friendly … and try to force their learned lifestyle of unions, higher taxes, inflated prices, and utter rudeness on the people who created and provided the very atmosphere that inspired the yankee to move here in the first place.

      Give it enough time and enough yankees and South Carolina will become another New York welfare state as the native citizens are eventually supplanted or brow-beat into conformity.

      I say … let the people in the States that have ruined themselves stay and sleep in the bed they have made. If they don’t like what’s happened to their home state, maybe it’s time they took responsibility for making a positive change to the way things are there.

      • Jim S

        I have to agree Alex. A friend of mine, a native Floridian, was told how the Floridians screwed up the election between W and Gore with their “hanging chads”. Her reply, which was very true, was that it wasn’t the Floridians that screwed it up. It was all the Yankees (read New Yorkers and New Jerseyians) that had moved to Florida that screwed it up. They continue to move to places like Florida and Texas where there are no state income taxes, there is good weather and fewer progressive lawmakers and try to remake them into the failed states the so recently fled. Where are they going to go after they screw their new home states up? Stay up there and wallow in your misery or change your home state. Leave us alone.

      • Karolyn

        I notice you had noting to sayto refute the “percs” I listed about this wonderful state. BTW – One of our local realtors is selling lots of homes to yankees. You’re probably one of those people who live near Columbia Myrtle Beach or Charleston – The only three places in the state that are up to modern standards, and those are the places that most of the yankees are moving to.
        I say GREAT! Elect Vincent Sheheen governor in the next election! Bring SC into the 21st century!

      • Alex Frazier

        Bahh.

        Define “corrupt” and give some relevant comparisons. Illinois and New York are worse than we could ever be.

        Infrastructure is just an excuse to put unions to work. Ever heard of “bridges to nowhere?” That’s infrastructure. And it happens to be so expensive as to bankrupt states. That’s why the development of such things should be left to private entrepreneurs, just as Vanderbilt and Rockefeller laid their own tracks and ran their own pipelines.

        Poverty is relative. We have fewer homeless than California, New York, or Illinois. We also have less money here because the cost of living is lower here. Consequently, the cost of doing business here is lower. Because all of this is lower, the state doesn’t need to provide as much of a dollar amount to those in need. So even in our poverty, we are handling our own better than the democrat states.

        If you think our roads are bad, try driving in Illinois. Or trying paying to drive on them in New York. I’m not terribly unhappy with our roads. No worse than Florida, Georgia, North Carolina, etc. Tennessee’s roads kind of suck, though.

        We do have domestic violence. But it’s better than being one of the four murder capitals of the country; Illinois, New York, California, and Massachusettes. The same goes for assaults. I’d rather get punched in a bar than shot in a drive by.

        And for the record, I live in Greenville. Greenville may not have much compared to larger metropolitan areas, but we have what we need. If I ever feel the need to hang out in a big city, Columbia is only an hour and a half away. For that matter, Atlanta is less than three hours away, and Charlotte is less than two.

        That being said … :oP

      • Karolyn

        Alex – I would love to live in Greenville. More opportunity, more life. Here in the Sandhills there is nothing. You did not address the fact that SC is the 6th most corrupt state in the country (and it is a red state!)

      • Alex Frazier

        No, I did. I asked you to define “corrupt.” There are lots of ways politicians can be corrupt. Do you mean corrupt as in stealing money? Do you mean corrupt as in breaking the law and getting away with it via their position of authority? Do you mean corrupt as in having affairs while being in office? Do you mean corrupt as in trying to subvert the rights of the citizens?

        What does “corrupt” mean? And on what basis was it decided that we were the sixth most corrupt state? And by whom? What are the statistic? Is it possible that we’re merely forty-fourth in the nation in our ability to hide the corruption? Or have they determined corruption on the basis of liberal agendas, such as voter registration that liberals exclaim denies people the right to vote?

        I can tell you that South Carolina is by far one of the most conservative states in the country. Not the most conservative (since so many yankees moved here), but still one of the top states. In South Carolina, we still believe in God. I don’t know what corrupt means in the interpretation of those who put us at sixth in the nation, but I can tell you that apart from typical politician shenanigans, I don’t see it.

      • Matrix

        Alex

        This was written by a so called racist….he must have been labled by a liberal, because the story has too many facts of the destruction of everywhere the liberal infest!

        The Fable of the Ducks and Hens

        “Many, many years ago, When animals could speak.
        A wondrous thing the ducks befell, their tale is quite unique. Down by a pond dwelt all these ducks, Ten thousand at the least. Their duckish joys were undisturbed By any man or any beast. One day down near the entrance gate,
        There was an awful din. A hundred hens all out of breath
        Were begging to come in. “Oh let us in!” these poor birds cried,
        “Before we do expire!” “Tis only by the merest inch
        That we escaped the fire!” Their feathers burned, their combs a droop,
        They were the saddest sight. They’d run a hundred miles or more,
        All day and then all night. “Come, come in!” the ducks all quacked,
        “For you our hearts do bleed! We’ll share our happy lot with you,
        Just tell us what you need!” And so these poor bedraggled hens
        Amongst the ducks moved in. For, after all, the ducks declared,
        “We’re sisters ‘neath the skin.” Before too many months had passed,
        The hens were good as new. They sent for all their rooster friends,
        And these were welcomed too. To please their host, these chickens tried
        To waddle and to quack. To simulate the duckish ways
        They quickly learned the knack. This pleased the flock of ducks because
        It gratified their pride. ….But hear my tale and learn how they
        Got taken for a ride. The ducks, it seemed, spent all their time
        In fixing up their place, In growing food and building homes
        And cleaning every space. They asked the hens what they would do
        To earn their daily bread. “We’ll teach and write and entertain,
        And buy and sell,” they said. And so these hens began to teach
        The baby ducks and chicks.
        They traded food and eggs and things,
        With many clever tricks. They wrote great books & put on shows,
        Of genius they’d no lack. It wasn’t long till chickens owned
        The Duckville Daily Quack. One day a mother duck who took
        Her ducklings to the lake, Was flabbergasted when one said,
        “A swim I will not take!” “Why ducklings always swim!” she gasped,
        “It’s what you’re built to do! Like bunnies hop, and crickets chirp,
        And cows most always moo!” “Your just old fashioned, a fuddy duck,
        That stuff is all old hat!” “It’s wrong for birds to swim; …besides,
        It’s too cold on my little pratt!” “Oh fie!” the mother duck exclaimed,
        “You’re talking like a fool!” Up quacked the other ducks and said,
        “He’s right! Ms. Hen taught us that in school!” “Such things must stop!” the mother cried, “Those hens can’t teach such lies!”
        “For sheer ingratitude and nerve, I’m sure this takes the prize!” ….But she was wrong, for even then The hens did thump the tub.
        Demanding they be let into, The Duckville Swimming Club. “But you don’t swim!” the ducks all cried, To join, why should you care?”
        “That’s not the point!” the hens replied,
        “To exclude us isn’t fair!” The younger ducks, who’d been to school,
        Agreed right there and then, “To keep them out is bigotry!”
        “T’would just be ANTI-HEN…!” Outnumbered by the younger ducks,
        The old ducks soon did loose; They agreed to let the hens all in,
        If they would pay the dues. That night the Duckville Daily Quack
        Contained this banner spread:
        “Reactionary Ducks Are Licked!
        DUCKVILLE MOVES AHEAD!” Down at the Duckville Gaiety,
        The younger set laughed with glee,
        At cracks about “Old Fuddy’ Ducks” In burlesque repartee. Next day the hens were at the club,
        A petition they’d sent around.
        They objected to the swimming fund
        With fury and with sound. “You use our dues to fix the pond,
        to keep it neat and trim.”
        “And this is wrong,” they said, “Because
        You know we do not swim!” “God help us!” cried a wise old duck,
        “These chickens have gone mad!”
        “We’ll take this to the court, by George,
        And justice will be had!” But when they went up to the judge,
        Imagine their dismay! A CHICKEN-JUDGE decreed that they
        Had a heavy fine to pay! “Minorities must have their rights!”
        The judge declared right then. “To use hen’s dues to fix the pond
        Is very ANTI-HEN…!” Once more the Duckville Daily Quack
        Emblazoned across the page: “Old Foggy Ducks Refuse to See
        The Great New Coming Age!” In Duckville church on Sunday morn,
        The preacher spoke these words, “Discrimination’s got to stop!
        Remember we’re all birds!” The wisest duck in all the town
        Sat down in black despair. “I’ll write a book,” he thought, and then
        “This madness I will bare!” “Let Swimmers Swim, let Hoppers Hop,
        Let Each One Go His Way. Let No One Coerce a Fellow Bird!”
        Was what he had to say. “Twas wrong to force the hens to swim
        So here’s the problem’s crux; It’s just as bad for hens to try
        To chicken-ize our ducks!” “I can’t print that,” the printer said,
        “Twill put me in a mess!” “My shop is mortgaged to the hens,
        The chickens own my press!” This worried duck then tried to warn
        His friends by speech and pen. Young ducks fresh from school just jeered
        “He’s one of those a vicious Anti-Hens…!” Now up the stream a little way
        Was Gooseville, on the lake. The hens had come to Gooseville too,
        But the Geese were more awake. When the hens began to spoil the young
        And Gooseville’s laws to flout, The Geese Rose Up in Righteous Wrath
        And Simply Threw Them Out…!!! Of course, you know where they all ran;
        On Duckville they converged. “We’ve got to take these refugees.”
        Was all Duckville’s hens had urged. The Duckville Daily Quack declared:
        “These Geese Will Stop at Naught! “They Plan to Conquer all the World!”
        “Atrocities They’ve Wrought!” “That’s right!” the young ducks agreed,
        “We’ll help our fellow birds! These Geese have plans to conquer us!
        ….We’ve read the Quack’s own words!”
        They let the hens from Gooseville in, The whole bedraggled pack.
        …. And every hen took up a job on the Duckville Daily Quack!! When the Duckville mayor’s term was up, The Quack put up it’s Duck;
        A vain and stupid duck was he, A veritable … cluck! But when he praised the wild young ducks, And cursed the evil Geese,
        The Quack declared he was “all wise,”
        His praise would never cease.
        The hens chipped in to help this cluck
        Give grain away for free. The old ducks sadly shook their heads,
        The writing they could see. And sure enough, this stupid duck,
        He was elected mayor. From this point on, The Duckville ducks,
        They never had a prayer. he Mayor said, “Gooseville must GO!”
        “We’ll wipe them off the map!” While Duckville slept, the scheming hens
        For Gooseville set the trap. They called the Geese by filthy names;
        They filled their pond with sticks. They helped the weasels catch the Geese,
        and other hennish tricks. The Geese got mad and threw the sticks,
        “It’s WAR!” the Quack announced.
        “We ducks must Fight those evil Geese,”
        “Till they’ve been soundly trounced!” The ducks (who knew not of the tricks
        Indulged in by the mayor), Were filled with patriotic zeal,
        And pitched right in for fair! So when the ducks whipped the Geese,
        The Mayor called “Retreat!!” “Our HENVILLE friends should really take
        Gooseville’s big main street!” the hens were back in Gooseville now;
        They starved and beat the Geese. They prayed for “Peace” — but organized
        The “HENVILLE ARMED POLICE!!!” They drained the Geese’s swimming pond,
        They “De-Goose-ified” their schools; They wrung the Gooseville mayor’s neck
        On lately made-up rules. They formed a council of the hens;
        “UNITED BIRDS” the name. The other birds who joined the thing
        Did not perceive the game. No sooner had they set this up,
        Than they announced their hennish plan: To seize up Swanville as a home For all their hennish clan. They took a vote among the hens,
        And everyone approved! “Swanville was for HENS!” they said,
        “Way back, before we moved,” And so they kicked the swans all out,
        With Duckville’s help and power And Duckville couldn’t understand
        Why swans, on them turned sour. By this time, Duckville was a mess,
        The young ducks had all gone mad. They stole and laughed at Truth and Law;
        They went completely “bad.” The hens were selling Loco Weed
        in every nasty den. But ducks who dared to mention this,
        Were labeled “ANTI-HEN…!” The hens all preached of “Tolerance,”
        They invoked the “Golden Rule,” But they subsidized the indigent,
        The greedy and the fool. At last the very dumbest ducks
        Began to smell a rat. “This mayor is no good!” they cried,
        “And we will soon fix that!” But the hens had planned for even this
        A candidate they had, Whom even wise old ducks believed
        Just never could be bad. This Hen-tool duck whipped the Geese,
        A soldier Duck was he. Although the hens had set him up,
        The Ducks all thought him free. This Hen-tool got elected,
        Through ignorance and greed, Through hennish lies in Press & Speech,
        Through Bribes of “Chicken Feed.” the hens now kicked the ducks around
        Without a blush of shame, Until the mayor ran the town
        In nothing else but name. They pumped the Duck’s pond all dry;
        They taught the ducks to crow, While duckish numbers dwindled,
        The hens began to grow. The hens stirred up the happy crows
        >From out of the piney wood, To Fight to Mix and Marry ducks
        in the name of “Brotherhood.” Things got so bad that fifty ducks,
        Who knew the days gone by; Took up their wives and children
        And decided that they’d fly. They flew through storms and tempest;
        They froze, and many died. But on they drove, until, at last,
        A lovely lake they spied. They settle down exhausted,
        But soon went straight to work; To build and clear and cultivate,
        No danger did they shirk.
        Now after many years of toil, This little band had grown.
        The fields around were full of grain From seeds that they had sown.
        The first ducks were long since dead; Their struggles long had ceased.
        Through hard work and suffering, Their joys had been increased.
        One day down near the entrance gate There was an awful din;
        A hundred hens, all out of breath, Were begging to come in.
        “Oh, let us in!” these poor birds cried, “Before we do expire!”
        “Tis only by the merest inch….” “… … … …”
        ….This epic really has no end,
        Because No matter how you fight em,
        Those HENS’ll show up every time.
        And so, …Ad Infinitum …!!!

        • Bob666

          Matix,
          you are one broken toy.

          • sam1966

            You neeeeed to be making that popping sound Bob antichrist, since Matrix is obviously a lot more intelligent than you. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!

            You need both love of country and faith in God to be a patriot. This leaves you out.

            “There are no atheists in fox holes.”

            Samurai

        • http://smoovious.wordpress.com Smoovious Laxness

          > The Fable of the Ducks and Hens

          Very nice… should turn it into a children’s book with no cover so it never ends…

          – Smoov

    • Capitalist at Birth

      Too bad they missed you. It’s is not too late.

  • http://www.cindynel.co.za peter

    It actually gets worse. In 2016 you will have both the Clintons bck in the Whitehouse and be warned now, you will be bled dry. Those two dream about it every day and night and have already made their plans!

    • http://donthaveone Beberoni

      I could not even fathom American being that damn stupid. Of course, I have been wrong before, and recently. I thought no way American’s could be stupid enough to re-elect a guy that just had the worst 4 years any person has ever had in the office of the President, but they saw to it to let him screw it up for four more years. So now, I cannot doubt the stupidity of the voting public, as far too many uneducated youths and foreigners vote for something they are told by the TV is good for them, and they dont even have a clue. I still think there should be a test to take to be allowed to vote. Because it is important to know.

      • Gib74

        Voter fraud is a great thing, isn’t it? Now that they’ve seen how well it works out for them we can look forward to seeing the same tactics in every election we’ll have in the future. Hillary will win in 2016 and 2020, then Moooochelle will be up 2028 and 2028 so she can REALLY be proud of America.

        Soros has been banned from Hungary for rigging their elections.

        Soros crashed the French economy to make a few billion Euro more.

        Here in America he’s been able to pull off both.

      • Cait

        Here is how Obama got re-elected. Apparently “God doesn’t like ugly.” That is what a black teacher at a charter school said the day after the election as I walked through the halls of the inner-city school sad and aching because Obama won again.

        I would hate to think of what would have happened in that 99.9% black school (to me as the only white person) had Obama lost.

      • Liberty Lover

        H.L. Mencken had it right: “Nobody ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the American public. Never has that been more obvious than after the re-election of the most unqualified, corrupt and incompetent President in American history.

      • http://yahoo Larry

        No one ever went broke under estimating the intelligence of the american public, P T Barnum

      • Capitalist at Birth

        They re-elected F.D.R. twice even though everything he did was either unconstitutional at worst, or damaging to he economy at best. To this day, Depression era citizens still glorify, possibly the worst President in our history. Nothing surprises me anymore. I seriously think it is time to exit stage right. In the famous words of which cartoon character?

    • vietnamvet1971

      Exactly, the USA is finished, OVER we are now being Ruled by the Evil Liberal Party so get ready for things to get Worse.

      • http://www.facebook.com/douglas.sawdy Douglas Sawdy

        @vietnamvet1971,lock n load, bb. Time to take out the trash.Obama and his fools will never take our guns,liberty or our freedom,WE THE PEOPLE are the government!!! The fools sitting in the white house are going to lose. All of them are guilty of treason

  • http://donthaveone Beberoni

    I find it funny, that already I have crossed paths with 3 young people, whom all voted for Obama and talked about how great it was that all insurance was going to now be free because he was going to tackle the greedy insurance companies and doctors and such, and it would all be free and affordable now. Huh. Seems now, as they never carried insurance before, they are being told they will start carrying insurance soon, or there will be a monthly fine, that will keep growing if they refuse to get insurance.They stated that they never bought their work places insurance because they didnt want to have to pay 350.00 a month for it, and that they never incurred enough bills to warranty carrying it. But now they have to either start paying the premiums, which are going up drastically, or procure insurance on their own. I just laugh, and ask them “did you really for one second believe that what he wants to do was only going to affect the ultra rich”. Needless to say, they are pretty pissed. I told them, that next time, before they go pulling that little lever in the voting booth, to get educated about who and what they are voting for. That is a major problem today, the young watch too much TV, and we all know which party owns the major networks, and whose agenda they are pushing. Time for people to start learning on their own and not believing everything they hear on TV.

    • Cait

      That is my dream. I educate the young on a daily basis and what they hear from me is not what they are used to. They get facts that come from reading source material–like the Obamacare legislation. I don’t watch the news, MSNBC – FOX. I think it is all for naught.

      All media is twisted to suit the people behind the strings. The government is corrupt and will only get worse.

      NOTHING in life is free. SOMEONE paid for it!! Wake the heck up, people!

  • Joy Thompson

    Just a thought: I would keep close tabs on your daughter who is attending Oxford. Most people who attend Oxford now-a-days come out as socialists.

    • Nadzieja Batki

      Joy, that is nothing new. The lords and ladies of Europe and even American sent their darlings to Oxford and then they inflicted the spawn on the outposts of the world and contaminated them with socialism (communism).

  • William May

    When I thought Obama would be elected the first time, I began chopping up my business and selling the pieces; it did $4.5 Billion in sales the last year it was whole.

    Now I live in Manila, Philippines, own a small quazi-bank doing business lending using my own money, not deposits, and I am ten times happier.

    In three years I will be a Philippine citizen, and even happier.

    • Nadzieja Batki

      Well something is not right with your situation because you came to this site to tell us. If all things were well you would be doing your living without any concern for what is happening in America. You burned your bridges when you left here but you keep looking for the shards to rebuild those bridges.

      • Nomad

        Not really. You Automatically get these press updates as I do daily. Just good reading to see people waking up. Sometimes you just have to reply. Where there is a will there is a way.

      • Nadzieja Batki

        Nomad, I know what I am saying even if you don’t think so.

      • Bob666

        well,
        he’s not pushing bad checks in Texas.

    • vietnamvet1971

      Good for you… don’t tell the Liberals they will declare you unfit & Unamerican for not staying and paying your “FAIR SHARE” of Otaxation.

      • Karolyn

        Well, if the shoe fits…” Rats deserting the ship, but the ship IS NOT sinking!

      • http://personalliberty Alondra

        Karolyn, the shoe is definitely fits you. You feel very comfortable sitting on your fat buttocks and spewing your spitefully nasty and gloating libtardic rants while collecting Welfare Money and Food Stamps.

        “Nice” job, Libtard.

        Just be careful what you wish for (!!!), because you (rat) can be thrown out from the REPAIRED ship.

      • Karolyn

        My “fat buttocks”? Don’t make assumptions, sweetie. They are most often proven wrong.

  • vietnamvet1971

    SOON, the only people left for the “King” to try and TAX to death is us Poor seniors and the Poor (neither group pays TAXES) sucking on Oblowhards Big Gimme-mint TIT. At least for NOW the Simpletons that re-elected their “Savior” are OK but there is a Day coming….

    • http://donthaveone Beberoni

      That is a very correct assumption. No doubt I am going to pay more, as I am a working man. But those who think he is all that, will soon find out it is their wallet he is after as well, and they arent going to like it when they have to start paying for this liberal cat’s agenda. Shame is, there are some really dumb people out there, who actually thought Obama was going to pay their gas bill, and mortgage and everything was going to be taken care of by him. How they got themselves that far off track, I dont know, but that is the picture they painted of him to themselves. Now they get to lie down in the bed they made. Sweet dreams.

  • MLR

    All these business men and their companies that want to leave the USA because of higher taxes. Let them go, and then DO NOT let them do business in the USA any more, and see how many come running back because their income is all but non-existant. The income divide in this country is as bad as it was in the 1920′s just before the great depression. For years you so called conservative people have been taking from the working class and giving to the wealthy, isn’t that a kind of reverse socialism?

    • Hedgehog

      MLR; close, but not quite. What you are seeing is the “Robbing Hood” syndrome in action. Robin Hood stole from the rich and gave to the poor. Robbing Hoods steal from the working class, keep most of the money and give the rest to the rich! Socialism, like communism is just a buzz word to distract the gullible.

    • Waldo

      If you worked hard you would/could be as sucessful as anyone else so you show your laziness by condemming those who do work for what they have. You are one of those who expect the government to take others wealth and share it with you and you sit on the couch and watch the view where three other lazy liberals spout hatred. I bet you also believe gun kill people and they should be banned and destroyed. You are one of the many who have drug this country into the mess we are in and the rest of us are paying your bills so KISS MY A$$

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        Waldo, I couldnt agree more with every statement you made. I am so sick of this country rewarding failures and punishing the successful. Why is it ok to take someone who paid attention in school, got an education, or people like me that didnt have money for college, so I went to the Military and learned a trade, then we applied ourselves, and got good at what we do, and our companies pay us according to the talents we bring to them, then it is deemed a bad thing by the liberal left, and we should be punished and forced to give our money to these guys that choose to stand around on front porches, drinking 40′s out of brown bags and smoking dope all day, but they cant go out and get a job. Shoot man, Ive been working all my life, paying my bills, paying my taxes, and trying to save enough, so that when I retire, I can stand on my porch, drink a beer from a glass, smoke a hooter if I so choose, and not be a burden to anyone, having paid for it all from using the talents God gave me. Even God Himself says if a man doesnt work, he shouldnt eat. So why are we feeding all these people who wont work? Why do we as a society reward the lazy who just refuse to get a job? It tick’s me off also my friend.

        • MLR

          Beberoni,
          I did pretty much the same thing you did in your life. collected unemployment for maybe 4 months in 40 years. But I have watched Big Business move jobs overseas, get hand outs from the government, get their taxes cut and my working class taxes raised. You ever think maybe part of the reason so many people get welfare is because upper level management wants to keep all the profits for themselves, the hell with the working man? that was at least partially responsible for their success, Oh wait workers that want good wages destroy business because they are the ones that make the decisions.

      • MLR

        I work hard and have plenty of money, I also think it is not to much to ask to pay my taxes. After all it was this country that made it posible for me to have what I have. I am not the greedy type that love to use other people, get all I can out of them, then dump on them. A little more fair play by the rich would not be a bad thing

      • Karolyn

        Money, money, money! All you people care about is money!

      • rhcrest

        And all you leftists think about is taking our money!

      • Patriot

        It never ceases to amaze me how it is considered greed to want to keep what I have earned, but it is called ‘fairness’ to take it from my by force and give it to someone else. Karolyn, MLR, You can ALWAYS volunteer to pay more in taxes. The IRS will happily accept your check. Just stop voulenteering MY money. My hunch, however, is that you look for deductions so that you pay less. And based on your ideology, that wouldn’t surprise me one bit.

      • http://personalliberty Alondra

        Freeloader Karolyn, the difference between us, who are working, and you, parasites, is that we “care about” OUR money, and you, shameless Libtards, “care about” people’s money.

        “You SHALL NOT steal.” – God’s 8th Commandment

        “You SHALL NOT covet your neighbor’s house, you shall not covet your neighbor’s wife… nor anything that is your neighbor’s.” – God’s 10th Commandmant

        These commandments prohibit the stealing of ANYTHING that belongs to another, including MONEY, which are the “FRUIT” of the man labor.

        These commandments are as RELEVANT TODAY as they were 3,000 years ago.

        “A slack hand causes poverty, but the hand of the diligent makes rich.” – King Solomon

        “The soul of the SLUGGARD DESIRES, AND HAS NOTHING; but the soul of the diligent shall be richly supplied.” – King Solomon (Pr.13:4)

        “If anyone is not willing to work, NEITHER SHOULD HE EAT. For we hear that SOME AMONG YOU WALK IN IDLENESS, NOT BUSY AT WORK, BUT BUSYBODIES” – Apostle Paul (2Thes.3:10-12)

        Miss Karolyn, EARN YOUR OWN LIVING.

        • Donna

          To begin at the beginning, awareness produces realistic self assessment. If you take awareness seriously, you find yourself asking some fundamental questions: Who am I? What do I want? What does the situation demand? A leader must ask these questions of him/herself and inspire his/her team to ask for themselves. Many would-be leaders shy away from psychology, but that’s not exactly what awareness is. In the recent biographical PBS program on Henry Ford, who had almost no inward gaze, his entire life, from childhood onward, was based on a rock-solid self-evaluation.

          Ford knew he was special and had something important to contribute. He knew he wanted to make advances in machinery, and by the time he was twenty his focus turned to the automobile. He knew that he wanted to change the lives of common people by giving them cheap mass transportation, and this desire to improve the lot of the common man later extended to his own factory workers, who were given the highest wages in the industry (the famous $5 a day that Ford proposed in 1914), along with mandatory English lessons for a work force that was largely immigrant. Eventually Ford’s vision extended to building utopian communities in faraway pace like Brazil so that his ideal American worker could be a worldwide model.

      • http://personalliberty Alondra

        Patriot, Karolyn does NOT pay taxes. She just collecting YORS.

        “Every plant which My heavenly Father has not planted will be uprooted.” – Jesus Christ

      • woodbutcher

        LOL they deleted my second post !

        Waldo so I’am paying your tax ! From 1950 to 1980 the top tax rate was 73%, your complaining about 39% ! My Grand Father still became a Millionaire with the 73% rate !
        I’ve worked for 40 years, to give the Rich tax cuts and trickle down ! Reagan in 1981 dropped the top tax rate over half from 73% to 28%, so for 30 years I’ve been one of the people that has to make up the difference ! I’ve not asked for anything I haven’t asked for anything I haven’t worked for !

        I just want the rich to treat me fairly, and pay their due I Did I tell you my Grand Father still became a Millionaire with the top rate of 73% ? Oh ya I did, and your complaining about what top rate ? Oh ya 39%, don’t worry I’ll pay the Diff !

    • Nadzieja Batki

      MLR, you just can’t keep yourself from lying but maybe you can’t differenciate lies from truth when one has a Leftist mindset. The Leftists, which are pathological altruists, gave away money from the lower and middle and upper middle classes to the supposed poor through the force of taxation, regulations. The Leftist twatters created the “rich” that you now hate.

      • MLR

        I don’t hate the rich. I just think they should show a little apreciation to those that made it posible to get rich, and I am 100% against gun control

      • Capitalist at Birth

        MLR, Exactly, who are those that made someones wealth possible?

    • http://GreyWolf FastAkita

      Could you please explain what you mean under:

      and also state some example?
      If I understand properly this is the very core of ideology based on which socialist states were created and as we know all of them bankrupted.

      • FastAkita

        Sorry, the missing line is:
        …so called conservative people have been taking from the working class…

    • http://donthaveone Beberoni

      Gee MLR, seems to me, that if you quit taxing the living hell out of the successful business’s, and stop rewarding failures like GM and Chrysler with billions of our tax payer dollars, these successful business’s will expand and grow, hire more workers, make more money, to pay more taxes with, and everyone wins. People get jobs, tax coffers take in more, etc, etc. But when you tax them unfairly as many are having done to them, and they sit and watch billions given to failure business, many of them have to power to say enough is enough, and they leave. And its not because they dont like the USA, its because they are tired of being treated like a leper, when they are already pouring millions into the economy and tax coffers, then they are told do ante up more. The liberals have got it all wrong. We need to quit chasing the successful businesses and running them out of the country. We need to embrace them, and do away with propping up failures like GM and Chrysler who have proven they do not know how to properly run a company, and whose solution is to cut corners and put out cheap junk and charge a higher price for it, to the point that no one wants it. That is exactly what they have done, and they dont deserve to be rewarded with billions of dollars of federal money to prop them up. Its wrong.

      • MLR

        Who started bailing out failing business’s? Ronald Reagan and Alan Greenspan, that’s who, and it got way worse under GWB, Not getting any better with Obama.

        • Bob666

          Very true.

      • Karolyn

        How about the opposite, where local governments are held hostage by corporations via tax breaks? States are also bidding to keep or get corporations. The corporate world holds all the cards.

      • Waldo

        MLR what about the 50% of the individuals in the country who pay no tax and the rest of us are supporting them? I said fix the tax code so everyone including the corporations pay their fair share but that went right over your head didnt it?

      • Capitalist at Birth

        What business did Ronald Reagan bail out, and what is his connection to Alan Greenspan? Are you daft?

        • Bob666

          to ask that question-you have a short memory.

      • Capitalist at Birth

        That question was from MLR.

    • Waldo

      MLR if you think about what you say you could answer your own question, the wealthy are generally big busniess owners of some type whose busniess’s have created many jobs and are the backbone of this country. They pay more tax than 90% of the population in many ways, there is earned income, payroll tax matching and unemployment contributions, if they are C corp they pay taxes on the companies income and then pay again on their personal profits. They are also the most taxed but to be fair we need a fair tax so everyone pays their fair share and not just 50% while the rest sit back and live on the rest.
      Lets get serious with this discussion instead of bashing the wealthier, lets talk about tax reform and fixing the entitlements, lets quit extending the unemployment benefits for those now going on three years, do you think these individuals will ever go back to work now?
      Our government pays women 1,500.00 on average for each child they produce so they do not marry their man, apply for assistance, then claim they cannot take care of the children so their mom adopts/fosters all of them so she collects all the money and the entire family just move in with mom. Why is our government paying for cell phones with unlimited minutes for just about anyone who applies? Why does our government allow those on welfare to have debit cards and not control what they can spend the money on? It has been doccumented millons are spent in Hiwaii and Nevda casinos, when they do go to the grocery store and use their card they buy junk food and beer not bread and staple food for the family. They live in government housing all the while driving lincoln’s and have 50″ big screen in the living room.
      If we close our borders and controlled immigration, did not allow anchor babies, did not allow welfare to those capable of working, actually controlled food stamps and unemployment and made congress live by the same rules we have to live by then we would not have a deficit.

      • MLR

        There are well over 100 fotune 500 companies that pay no income tax, many that get money from the IRS, General electric for example made nearly 4 Billion last quarter, tax bill + 20 million, the IRS gave them money.Of course the working class people that work for GE get to pay their income tax. So who is getting the most welfare dollars, the single pregnant mom, or Big Business?

      • Waldo

        MLR what about the 50% of the individuals in the country who pay no tax and the rest of us are supporting them? I said fix the tax code so everyone including the corporations pay their fair share but that went right over your head didnt it?

        • MLR

          Guess I missed that tax code fix,I am all for fixing it, but you think it will happen with the people we got in power, both sides. I voted third party

      • Waldo

        MLR
        Tose who voted third party knowing that it could not possibly do any good are the one who got Obama re-elected and likely will be the final nail in our coffin. Romney I believe would have at least slowed or stopped this downslide and given us a chance to work on a fix, now we all will likely be standing in bread lines by 2016 in time to hand it to Hillary who will finish us off.

        • MLR

          Waldo.
          Obama won, not because of third party voters but because of who the Republicans had running against him. Besides no matter which party is in charge it is more of the same, big money running things, if more people would vote third party maybe there would actually be some meaningful changes made.

          • Donna

            I would be willing to vote third party if Mayor Bloomberg would run. He’s a rich man, Independent, Socially liberal, for gun control, but mostly he’s a common sense thinker.

          • Smoovious Laxness

            > I would be willing to vote third party if Mayor Bloomberg would run.
            > He’s a rich man, Independent, Socially liberal, for gun control, but
            > mostly _he’s_ _a_ _common_ _sense_ _thinker_.

            BWAAAHAHAHAHAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAA!!!!!

            I can’t stand it…. XD

            – Smoov

          • Patriot

            wait….You would vote for someone that decides for you when it is time to stop eating, take away your large soda, decide that people shouldn’t have their medication for more than a few days, decide what level of salt is good for everyone, refuse to prosecute gun crimes, but make it harder for those that would never break the law to own them….because this is GOOD SENSE?? Move to NYC. Have Nanny Bloomberg decide what is best for you and your children. Just please, do not ever vote for anyone that would make those decisions for those of us capable of deciding for ourselves.

          • Donna

            Are you obese? Go ahead, eat and drink all the junk, get your diabetes. Unfortunately, this country is becoming fat and lazy because they want their FREEDOM. Sometimes, someone needs to think for all the slobs who can’t think for themselves.

          • Patriot

            Oh, yeah! Those IDIOTS that want to be free from a tryannical government that only wants to help by telling them what to eat and how much of it! The poor FOOLS!
            So, Donna! You have established that it is just plain stupid to want (God forbid) FREEDOM. I mean, clearly, we need someone that knows best to tell us what to eat, how much to eat, whether or not we should be fat, how many bullets we should be allowed to have in our guns, how much salt we should be allowed to eat, and to make sure we dont get any trans-fats.
            I think that we need to get someone in power that knows best how much TV we should watch, what we should be allowed to feed our kids, how many drinks we can have, what we should drive, where we should live, what music we should listen to, and certainly what books we should read. I mean, why stop at having someone ensure we eat healthy? We should get someone that has ‘common sense’ to be sure our minds and hearts are healthy too! The freedom to choose these things for ourselves is just too destructive. We need a wealthy politician that knows what is best for us all to decide these things. We should never be trusted with our own freedom. Liberty and individual sovereignty are ideas that only apply to elite politicians that have our best interest in mind. Right?

      • http://smoovious.wordpress.com Smoovious Laxness

        Obama won because Republicans refused to vote for a conservative when they had the chance, twice.

        They care more about party identity than they do actually putting their vote where their priorities are, and casting for someone who is actually about smaller government and more liberty for the people, like the lip-service they pay, claims to believe in.

        They don’t think for themselves. They’re Republicans, they’ll always be Republicans, and they’ll always vote Republican. They don’t know enough, to know, that the person the Republicans ran, wasn’t even a conservative. He just had the Republican label on him.

        They don’t even know their own history, and stay quiet while the Democrats keep claiming ownership over issues that the Republicans championed and the Democrats stood against!

        They claim to care about smaller government and keeping them out of our lives as being their most important value, but then chuck it out the door, when their most important value reveals itself at the voting booth. Stopping gay marriage, or using gov’t to prevent people from making their own choices about what they can do with their own bodies, or any number of Evangelical priorities that are all about the social and the fiscal is barely an afterthought.

        Those issues aren’t conservative, they are also liberal, they are just differently liberal.

        A conservative position, is that it isn’t any of the gov’t's damned business who I choose to marry, what I do with my own body, what school I go to, what businesses I patronize, whether I use gas, diesel, natural gas, wind, solar, or steam, etc.

        “None of your damned business” is the conservative position when it comes to politics. Anything less, is not conservative, and is a form of liberalism.

        Our gov’t's #1 duty is defense. #2 is fiscal. Meddling, doesn’t make the list.

        – Smoov

  • TOCB

    Taxes should be used to fund the things a society wants to do collectively. My bet is Tina Tuner did not leave the USA because of taxes but because the Swiss people act more civilized than Americans do. Tiger Woods and Phil Mickelson may be willing to leave California to go to Florida, but my guess is they are not williing to leave the USA to go to Mexico, regardless of the tax difference.

    This country provided the opportunities for Woods and Mickelson and every other wealthy person to become wealthy. If they want to take advantage of those opportunities and not share in the cost to provide those same opportunities to others, it speaks way more negative of them than it does the US government, which btw, IS THE PEOPLE.

    • http://donthaveone Beberoni

      Sorry, but I do not think it speaks negatively of Phil or Tiger to flee California and their unfair tax process. Why should they get raped, because they have applied themselves and become successful, while millions of illegal aliens get to collect from their work, while not paying a cent into the tax tillers? I think it shows they are smart, and have decided to not allow these liberal tax monsters to treat them unfairly. I mean, come on man. The rich are already paying more than most of us normal working folks will ever pay, and now you tell them to pay almost half of their earnings, just because they make a lot? And yet all those collecting food stamps and welfare and WIC and such, are receiving all these millions of handouts, yet not paying a dime into the system. This my friends, is exactly why California is bankrupt. And now that they have chosen to shake down those who are paying them the most, they are going to lose a lot of that money also, and it serves them right. You want equality in taxes, quit punishing the successful and rewarding the failures. Make everyone pay their fair percentage, not just ream those who are successful. Its not right. And by the way, I am not one of the rich, and I feel I am unfairly taxed anymore. I mean, I have noticed these last four years, despite making the same amount, that my federal taxes being taken out have climbed each year. Dont believe me, check out your tax stubs these past 4 years, and you all might find a surprise, that the Obama admin has been taking a little more and a little more and a little more, in the stealth mode, just doing it but not telling anyone.

      • Karolyn

        Nothing was said about thinking negatively of Woods or Mickelsen.

    • Joy Thompson

      What percentage of what Woods and Mickelson make do you think would be an appropriate tax? 30%? 40%? 50%? 60%? 70%? It is true that the Bible says that to whom much is given, (talent, resources, etc.), much is required, but really, what do you think would be fair? I remember that the first settler’s to our shores came as subjects of the King of England and set-up their communities as collectives. This system failed because the hard workers rebelled at having to “share-and-share-alike” with their lazy neighbors. I think it would behoove us all to take a moment and become students of history and learn why and how socialism/communism has failed wherever it has been tried. The Bible also says that the poor will always be with us and that we should help them. We’re not going to be able to do that very well if we’re all taxed to death, and we are forced to rely on our benevolent government, (which does such a magnificent job of handling our tax dollars now), to hand it all out as they deem fit. Give me a break.

      • Karolyn

        I don’t have the info here, but I remember reading that the tax rates for the rich were much higher many years ago. They have just gotten greedier. After all, isn’t greed a good thing according to them? Warren Buffett lives in the modest home he has lived in for many years and drives his own regular car. They should all be more like him and the others in the following article.
        http://money.ca.msn.com/savings-debt/gallery/15-billionaires-who-live-frugally

      • http://personalliberty Alondra

        Freeloader Karolyn, WHO are you to determine what kind home people should have or what kind car they should drive.

        Sluggard Karolyn, WHO are you to instruct people who they SHOULD follow?
        People spend THEIR money how they decide, not you, sluggish been.

        Libtard Karolyn, Bill of RIGHTS is NOT Bill of needs. Go to work, move your fat buttocks, then you will have less time for your idiotic stupidity.

        “You SHALL NOT covet your neighbor’s house, you shall not covet your neighbor’s wife… nor anything that is your neighbor’s.” – God’s 10th Commandment (Exodus 20:17)

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  • http://twitter.com/advocacybz Karl Schilling (@advocacybz)

    Obamacare is loaded with quasi “taxes” which increase the out of pocket costs fro all americans. This is on top of actual tax increases and yet Obama is still discussing more taxes. Presently you and I come out of pocket for sales taxes, gas taxes, property taxes, federal income taxes, medicare taxes, social security taxes, new Obamacare taxes, the list goes on and on, and the Libs in Congress are now discussing such wonders as mileage taxes and a new government retirement account which in essense would confiscate your qualified retirement savings in plans like 401ks, IRAs, Keoughs, or any ERISA qualified plans. It unfortunatel appears that if you have accumulated any wealth you are better off leaving then staying.

  • http://twitter.com/advocacybz Karl Schilling (@advocacybz)

    Last man out shut off the lights on the way out. When the smoke clears all that will be left will be an overwhelming class of poor people. The US will slowly become the largets 3rd world nation in the history of mankind. No one ever discussions the simple demographic economic factors of abortion. The fact that the birth rate has fallen to its lowest level in American history is discussed by numerous red herring factors but abortion is never one of them. The US is now suffering the same misfortune that Japan has for the last 20 years. Maybe people should take a moment and read a bit of Harry Dent’s work on demographics and they could understand the evolution of the changing economy that has no youth to fill the baby boomers seats. This is why the US is begging for immigrants to come into the country.

    • Bill

      You are right, Karl
      This issue with immigrants is all about votes. If the illegal immigrants were voting for conservative candidates, you would see the borders closed faster than you could blink an eye

      We even do not know how to be a third world country. I like traveling to third world countries because life is cheap and you can get anything you want if you are willing to pay for it. We will have a bunch of unhappy poor people that want the good life and cannot have it.

  • http://google judith peairson

    This is sooo true. I live in Texas and I love it here. Ive always been proud to be an ameriican and thoughht Id never want to leave this country but recently I have been considering giving up my citizenship and moving to another countey. The amwrica Iv loved so much is dying. Losing our freedoms anim afraid our presudent is a muskim an soon will be tellng me I have to convert to his religion an sharia laws. No thanks! I love Jesus anI will not conform to his ignorant and brutal religion. Fact is if it walks like a duck and quacjs like a duck. Guess what? Its a duck. Im very sad that our leaders hae fallen inti greed. It will be there end!

    • Karolyn

      Puhleez! You think you will be forced to be a Muslim? Give me a break! Stop listening to radicals! But, on the other had, we don’t need people here who are so fearful and who so sheepishly follow the herd that believes everything it reads. We need people here who believe in this country no matter what wackos have to say.

      • Waldo

        Karolyn
        You must be from a place far far away………..

      • Joy Thompson

        I don’t think we will be forced to be a Muslim, but I think soon, very soon, criticizing Islam will be classified as a “hate-crime”, with subsequent penalties. This criticism may be just telling the truth about what the Koran says, but, never-the-less, it will be classified a “hate-crime”. It will also be classified a “hate-crime” to tell the truth about what the Bible says, like saying that homosexuality is not OK and that abortion is wrong. “Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness, who put bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter.” Isaiah 5:20.

        • Donna

          Words aren’t hate crimes.

      • http://www.facebook.com/benjamin.fox.98892 Benjamin Fox

        Karolyn I guess your not educated enough to read the Quran, it says to convert all the infidels to allah or kill them, in their book lady, also says you can lie to infidels and that is okay says the liar allah, have peace with them but, not more then 10 years and that to rearm and fight again. Live in peace with your neighbor and when strong enough take over the land for allah. Read and learn your enemy to blind to see.

      • http://personalliberty Alondra

        Waldo, the libtard Karolyn is from the Kenyan jungle wonderland called DEMONcracia.
        ————————————————————————————————————–
        Benjamin, Karolyn is absolutely uneducated. Her ignorance and stupidity pours out limitlessly and endlessly.

        She is the only person who isn’t aware of her own stupidity and ignorance.
        She still driven by the DARK AGE’S IGNORANCE.
        ————————————————————————————————————-
        Karolin, WHEN you will give us a break from your idiotic stupidity, absolute ignorance and sluggishness?

        Karolyn, to be ignorant means not knowing, to be stupid means REFUSING to know. Neither is good.

  • http://www.facebook.com/douglas.sawdy Douglas Sawdy

    So tell me is this fool creating jobs,naw,more like driving more away..[racist comment removed]

    • R. Fine

      This is the way you speak about your president? You sound like a clod and an ungrateful one at that. Clearly for all your views about how great America is you don’t have much respect for the democratic process.

      • budget thinker

        Oh I am so sick and tired of being behind a “welfare” person who has the government paying for the food and housing but yet they rid a better car and live ina better house than my own most live in a single house section 8 so to speak.

    • mark

      The endless racism on this site continues. With zero consequences. Unless of course you say something about the article writers.

      • http://personalliberty Alondra

        Mark, ENDLESS Leftists’ STUPIDITY and WHINING on this site continues. Just wasting space and time. With ZERO consequences.

        Just saying.

  • Jill

    There are definitely a lot more people moving to Tennessee! Hopefully they don’t bring their liberal ideas with them, this is my only concern. We are a pretty conservative state and want to keep it that way.

    • R. Fine

      You betcha golly gosh gee!

    • mark

      We have a somewhat similar problem when Tennesseans and other Southerners move up North. They certainly don’t bring their liberal ideas with them. But they do bring their racist ideas. So, I think you better brace yourself to deal with more Northerners who will promote education, tolerance, and compassion for their fellow citizens – not war, racism, and foreign invasions. Ideas acquired over a lifetime stick. People do bring their ideas with them, Jill.

      • Waldo

        Mark
        Careful now yank, Chicago and New York are two of the deadliest, anti gun, meanest places in this country so you dont have much room to be talkin, so much for tolerance and compassion.

      • mark

        Waldo, the black and hispanic street gangs of Chicago have zero compassion for anyone. But they are also all dead broke and aren’t moving anywhere. Liberalsl who locate to other states, sell their homes in the their states of birth and then puchase homes in the South or the Sunbelt.

        • Donna

          The street gangs of Chicago aren’t liberals. They are Libertarians. Freedom with no responsibilities.

      • Waldo

        Mark
        You liberals are the ones who want open borders and fast track citizenship, where do you think all those gang members came from? Most were illegals who came here for their chance to succeed and now are ruling these cities and running the citizens out. These gang members as you call them are terrorist and if we had control of our borders most of them would not be here. Slow down and think about your logic before you insert foot.

        • MLR

          Waldo.
          The first president to fast-track citizenship and open boarders was non other than your conservative hero ( Ronald Wilson Reagan)

          • Donna

            MLR, you are correct. Since Obama’s been in office there is more border patrol than ever before and more deportations than any President before him.

      • Waldo

        Donna
        I think you come from the same far far away place Karolyn dropped in from.

        • Donna

          Waldo, actually my family has been in this country since 1654, fought in the Revolutionary War, the War of 1812, the Civil War (on the Confederate side), World War I and World War II. I’m sure I’m missing some of the wars. I still am an open minded person. I refuse to be racist, ignorant of how the government runs and I insist on being self sufficient. I’ve worked since I was 14 years old and I now deserve the Social Security and Medicare that I paid dearly into over those years. I will not accept the Tea Partiers to cut and slash those programs, whether they say it’s for people under 55 or not. My son is under 55, he is a Major in the Air Force and he too deserves to receive the programs that he has paid into all of his years of service.

      • mark

        Hey Waldo, the overwhelming amount of Chicago street gangs are African Americans. They were born here. A lot of them are Puerto Ricans also. And like all Puerto Ricans they were born U.S. citizens same as you and me.

  • matforce

    When marginal tax rates set at over 90% duting the BOOM years of the USA to steer our fabulous wealth into the USA investment/financial sector to get a break, our nation thrived. Supply side has given our spoiled uber rich their tax break up front with less incentive to invest in America the Beautiful. That, plus the fact that our tax code, rife with corporate welfare (loopholes, exemptions, credits, write-offs) that makes public assistance look like small potatoes, rewards corporations that offshore jobs, has turned the best investments on Wall Street the returns being realized from sweatshops abroad, so that now our fabulous wealth is flowing into Red China and the deep pockets of a growing plutocracy whose wealth is purchasing more and more influence in our legislature, as the middle class and America the beautiful decline, while the top thives.
    When you ask our most affluent citizens to place their shoulder to the wheel and chip in with the arduous task of saving the USA from an insolvency that they, along with the legislation they have bought and paid for, has played a major role in bringing to pass, cries of “class warfare” go up from these same economic traitors, their lackies in congress, and propagandist like Mr. Root here, with those they’ve managed to snooker, in strenuous and full throated agreement.

  • DD

    You people are all nuts. It’s time for you to think about what you really are saying. Do you want America to survive or not? So go ahead, don’t pay taxes and you’ll get what you are wishing for. That will definitely turn us into a third world nation. Let China take over. [comment has been edited]

    • http://wildeyguns.com The Christian American

      The time not to pay taxes is election time by putting people like Ron Paul in office. The other way reguires blood be shed, and it might be Mr. Woods.

    • Nadzieja Batki

      DD, you identified yourself as a bigoted ignoramus.

  • CHRISTOPHER ALLEN HORTON

    Wayne Allyn Root – SIR, THIS IS YOUR BEST ARTICLE.

  • DD

    OK, so you’re all not nuts. Thanks for that.

    Don’t worry Jill, the only people wanting to move to Tennessee are the right wing extremists. No liberal, open minded person would want to move there.

    • Waldo

      “No liberal, open minded person would want to move there.” I hope not, you deserve Chicago and New York, the fruit of all that liberal union hard work.

      • Donna

        You’re right. New York and Chicago (I happen to live in CT) are great cities. I was brought up out west, Colorado, Texas, New Mexico, Utah, Idaho; but have lived my adult life in New York and Connecticut. I love it out here. We have the ocean, mountains, culture, diversity. What a wonderful place to live.

    • Baron Zedlitz

      “Liberal, open minded?” Now there’s a oxymoron. Where did you learn English anyway? In your ghetto school?

    • Baron Zedlitz

      Yeah, and I’d advise you not to visit there. You just may get outfitted with concrete boots, and sleep with the fishes. That would be the preferred outcome, for you and all other Obama worshippers.

      • Donna

        I’ll need to visit there, my son will be moving there….Sorry guys. He’ll protect me, he has a gun.

  • ToughGuy1

    A lot of people here in Utah are pest off with Obama, because of his new taxes. That I know! On everything that is a issue, with Obama to charge me for a use of a tissue at the hospital, when I’m ill. Furthermore, he’s a domestic social tyrant. A big ponzi schemer. Even his reelection campaign to Utah he try to avoid in coming here. Somebody who got to have the bolas to stand up in government to charge him of his underminded criminal activity now, and of his past. He has perpetrated every American in his way of thinking is right. Which is wrong. A few of us, who are the real law abiding citizens. There’s got to be perturbing solid evidence against him on Obama’s grounds for impeachment! But, where can we legally hurt him the worse!? And, Wayne A. Root for President 2016!

  • DD

    Judith, you really believe our President is going to make you become a Muslim? Are you living under a rock? First of all, he’s not a Muslim. He’s a Christian, just like you. Wake up and start looking at the real world around you.

    • http://wildeyguns.com The Christian American

      He’s not a Christian or a Muslim. He goes to the same church that Karl Marx, Linen and Stalin went to. By birth Stalin was a jew.

    • Joy Thompson

      I don’t know what religion he is, but he is definitely not a true Christian. A true Christian believes that the Bible is the Word of the one-true God, and would never say or do anything to promote abortion or same-sex marriage. To believe otherwise is delusional.

    • Nadzieja Batki

      DD, how intimate you are with O?

    • Baron Zedlitz

      He’s a Christian?! If you really believe that, I’ve got some swamp land I’d like to sell you.

      • Donna

        Can’t convince a person who lives under a rock. Come out into the sunshine and see the world how it really is, not the evil you think you see living under the rock.

  • DD

    Well Tough Guy, are you one of those making over $450,000 a year? Is that why you are upset about the taxes? Hospitals have always charged for your tissues. Remember, it’s the insurance companies in charge of your health care costs until ACA kicks in. Because of Obamacare we got a $1,200 refund from the insurance company for their overcharging us. Thank you President Obama!!

    • Waldo

      And you will pay that and a whole lot more for youe free Obamacare that has already made everyone have to pay a minium of 10% for all care, no more 100% coverage not to mention all the hidden taxes and guess what now with all the new taxes you are paying for free insurance for 30 million welfare and illegal reciepents. Nothing come free but some think Obama has a pocket full of money but I got news for you it is our money not his.

      • Donna

        First of all, undocumented workers get free health care now. Who pays? You do, if you have insurance. Why do you think insurance costs are so high? You’re paying the bill for all people, not just the undocumented, who can’t afford and don’t have health insurance. That’s around 43,000,000 people. At least with Obamacare, the majority of those people will be able to afford insurance and guess what….Your insurance cost will eventually go down. As to the coverage, I don’t know anyone who gets 100% coverage with insurance. Most insurance companies pay only 80% for Doctors and they may cover 100% of hospitalization (not including tissues.) Obamacare will be offering several different options. That’s why it will be affordable. If you don’t have insurance, but can afford a Cadillac plan, you can get all the coverage you want. If you can’t afford it, you can get higher deductible plans, catastrophic plans only if you wish.

        I gather you haven’t paid much attention to the facts.

    • Baron Zedlitz

      Obama can give you nothing, because he has nothing, except what he steals from the people who have it, because they produced it. So, why don’t you just stay home, watch big fat Orpah Windbag, eat bon bons and vegetate, the only activity you’re fit for; and leave the thinking to people who have a capacity for it.

      • Donna

        Not finding many thinking people here. No one bothers to find the facts.

  • Karolyn

    I would venture to guess that a sizeable number of people who left NY for Florida are retirees, and they moved there for the weather, not the taxes. SC has its share.

  • http://wildeyguns.com The Christian American

    When Castro was taking Cuba, one of the Cuban sugar barons escaped from Cuba and flew in to Florida landing in Miami airport. When he was getting off his plane the media was there to welcome him. After lisening to all the questions reporters were throughing at him and not saying a word and letting all the noise die down, he simply said this to the crowd, AT LEAST I HAD A PLACE TO RUN TO. When sheep are terrorized, they form a circle. While one’s on the outer circle are beinging eaten, the one’s in the inner circle feel warm and fuzzy.

    There is no defense from those working to make America into a godless socialist state, commonly called a communist state. The only defense is a strong OFFENSE. We’re suppose to be Americans, not sheep. We don’t run from our problems, we go head on into them and correct them. Some of us have more equity than others but our fate will be the same, spending the rest of our lives in shackles held by the Communist. There’s no time for small talk when we see the avalanche of involuntary socialism bearing down on us. We must forget our petty differences and unite agains our common enemy. We must become a “voluntary” socialist state helping each other, not an “involuntary” socialist state where the government steals our wealth and gives crumbs back to us, providing we’re politically correct. Yeah! Save your hide only to skinned another day.

  • TMOSES

    I’ve been self-employed most of my life. In a small business, sometimes you have good months and somtimes you have bad months where your employees get paid, the state gets paid thier 6% take of your sales and you have to borrow money to survive. The state makes a profit every month no matter how good or bad it turns out. Worse than that is I have been forced to collect taxes for the state without pay. That makes me a slave. The state employees who recieve my tax check get paid from the money I worked hard to earn. They get a decent salary, health insurance and a hefty pension.
    I go home after work to my house which I have to pay nearly $10,000 annually to the public school for the privilage to live in my home, so they can pay the state employed teachers and staff thier salary, health insurance, and a hefty pension. Their pension is the equalivent of winning a million dollar lottery.. like $90,000 a year for life.
    The property I leased for my business, an abondon factory, I brought back to life was sold to the public school bus company who tore down the buildings and now the property is the parking lot for the school busses. My business and 4 others closed, instead of paying rent for the use of the building, I now pay an increase to my school tax to pay for the purchase of the property I use to earn my living from.

    “Free” public schools..the “gift” that keeps on taking. The average student who graduates with a “free” high school education will repay $500,000 to $1,000,000 in thier lifetime for that “gift”!
    That’s 5-10 times more than a college degree!

    • matforce

      Small business owners are the real “job creators” (how disingenuous that prase has become) in the USA. Our “multinationals” have displaced the high wage USA worker in favor of sweatshop labor offshore (China avg. wage = $1.36/hr.), are making record gains (sitting on over $5 TRILLION), and parking their fortunes in offshore accounts to avoid USA taxation, like paying taxes to the USA is for chumps. The GOP is pushing for more of the same failed Supply Side economics policies, and record low taxation to “starve the beast” and would turn our government into the enemy with their anti-USA propaganda, while small businesses that remain are picking up the tab, cutting costs to the bone, and exerting downward pressure on wages here to compete with the globalists and deal with the declining purchase power of a decimated middle class that used to supply a large portion of the USA revenue to the treasury right off of their paychecks in the form of the payroll tax. As the money runs out you will see more and more finger pointing, villainizing the victims of the Great Sellout when, in reality, this mess has been perpetrated by the elite.
      See the fate of Bill S3816; what it contained and how they voted; speaks volumes.
      http://www.opencongress.org/bill/111-s3816/show

  • DD

    Do you know what church Marx, Stalin and Linen went to? Pray tell. What church?

    • Nadzieja Batki

      DD, the one they created for themselves in themselves.

  • mark

    According to Wayne Allyn Root the taxes he paid did absolutely nothing for him: “Taxes do nothing for productive people (like business owners or high-income earners). Nothing. Zero. Zip. Nada. It’s like burning your money in the fireplace. I’m a witness. I lived in New York for 27 years, then California for a decade. What did I get for all those taxes I paid? Nothing” Right so the highways, bridges, tunnels, public schools, public universities, public libraries, publically-subsidized hospitals, police and fire fighter protection, rescue squad ambulances, military protection, management of woodlands, lakes, and beaches, and of course the millions of professionals in medicine, law, pharmacy, nursing, etc. who service us after having received their educations from the GI Bill and government-subsidized loans and scholarships did absolutely nothing for him or for any of us, either. Wayne just must have stayed in his home all his life and never used the roads, bridges, never went to a doctor, a nurse, a hospital, a lawyer, never used a library, or swam, hunted or fished in a government-managed woodland, lake, or beach. Never used the internet that was created through gov’t-sponsored research….oh no I forgot, he is on the internet pontificating everyday…

    Once again, Mr. Root, is about as acurate with his wisdom as he was on with last November’s election outcome. You know, that Romney landslide.

    • matforce

      Good point, Mark. Your list is far from exhaustive. Government backed R&D has helped fund many of the technological advances that were developed during the years when the USA emerged from WWII with an intact, first rate, manufacturing sector. This post WWII manufacturing sector (tool and die, machinists, metal fab, automation, assembly methods, CNC machines, etc., transferred easily into and augment our first rate private manufacturing sector that used these industrial technologies to thrust the USA into the world’s premier industrial leader. Our metalurgist and steel mills made the world’s best alloys, our manufacturing methods produced the best quality products, NASA and aeronautics contributed advanced technologies to the private sector for use in the private sector.
      There’s always been tension between labor and management concerning compensation and benefits for labor, but when corporate America purchased policies in our legislature that gave them access to sweatshops offshore/south of the border with impunity, nay, incentivized it with a tax code that rewarded it, then allowed these cheap products to flood our shores, tariff free to soak a declining middle class, that was the beginning of the end for the here-to-fore prosperous middle class consumer. With decent paying jobs, the middle class had enough disposable income to bolster the largest consumer market this world has ever seen. Now an umemployed/underemployed middle class is facing downward pressure on the wages and competition with sweatshops for jobs in a global economy that is stripping them of their consumer dynamism; the demand side of the supply and demand formula in a free market. So what did our financial sector do to offset this impending cash flow problem? Easy credit! And a spoiled middle class that was slow to catch on to what had happened, kept purchasing, believing the mighty USA would return to its former economic prosperity like it always has; thus the housing bubble, and I believe the next bubble will be either in the college loan debt or the credit card debt forfeitures.
      For all this you can thank our elite, who used their influence $$$ in our halls of congress for legislation that would guarantee a profit margin. Some say, “Hey, that’s capitalism in a free market!” One cannot blame businesses for exerting their influence to promote a competitive advantage for themselve, even though I still do. But what is to be said for our elected officials whose job it is to protect the best interest of the USA and the people they are elected to serve? History will be unkind to our plutocrats for their economic betrayal of their nation of origin, but it will reserve its most scathing indictments for a congress that was complicit in this economic treason by writing and signing off on thes treasonous bills. The results, I believe, have become a threat to our national security.
      All these attempts to subterfuge, misdirect, divert, and snooker a gullible populous into blaming the poor, or the big bad government, or taxation (even though we’ve had the lowest tax rates over the past 30 years than we’ve had for a century now), and those lazy American workers, are attempts to protect the real perpetrators of the treason; namely a Plutocratic class that has managed to steer all the wealth to the top and has left the middle class hang out to dry.

      • MLR

        Matforce.
        you hit it right on the nose. I try to say the same thing but you say it better. you think many people will ever understand the truth in what you say? All they have to do is open their eyes to what has been happening the last 40 or so years and it is pretty easy to see

  • http://www.yahoo.com jeffreyliakos

    The tax code we currently have is an abomination that needs to be confined to the ash heap of history. Before 1913, we had did not have a progressive income tax. Our tax code is obsolete. Liberals gripe about the so-called rich, claiming that they don’t pay their fair share. Liberals omit the fact that the rich pay more taxes than the rest of the population, so their position holds no water. If we had the Fair Tax, everyone would pay their fair share.

    • Baron Zedlitz

      There’s no s uch thing as a “fair share” of extorted money. If a burglar shows up at my front door, I won’t worry about whether he gets his “fair share” of my money. What I will do is shoot him.

  • DD

    So the bible is the word of God (of course written by men 2,000 years ago.) Times have changed my friend.

    • Joy Thompson

      Oh my…where to begin? The Bible is either the inerrant Word of God, or it isn’t. God Almighty would not have left us with other than the complete TRUTH. Why do you suppose the Dead Sea Scrolls are so important? They are important because they show that the original scriptures were copied and passed down virtually without error. Of course, men, being human, make mistakes. We remember, though, that knowing this, God provided that “All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, so that the man of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work.” 2 Timothy 3:16-17. In other words, the Holy Spirit guided and directed, without error, those who God chose to write down His words.

      How disorienting it must be to try to sail through life without such an anchor.

    • Karolyn

      Joy – Why would it be disorienting? One can take lessons from the Bible, while not believing all the stories as being factual, of which many were borrowed from previous civilizations. Everyone can receive the word of “God”, which is the voice of Universal Intelligence – who we really are – each a part of a whole.

      • Joy Thompson

        Be careful what “voice” you are listening to. How do you ascertain what you say is “Universal intelligence”? What is truth? There are a myriad of contradictions out there. “There is a way that seems right to a man, but in the end it leads to death.” Proverbs 14:12. What “voice” do you think Mohammad was listening to when he wrote in Quran 4:34 that Allah says it is OK to beat your wives?

        “But if serving the Lord seems undesirable to you, then choose for yourselves this day whom you will serve, whether the gods your forefathers served beyond the River, or the gods of the Amorites, in whose land you are living. But as for me and my household, we will serve the Lord.” Joshua 24:15.

      • http://www.facebook.com/benjamin.fox.98892 Benjamin Fox

        Karolyn are you really eddie teddy 47 ways to be a darn commie in drag? You can’t find one contradition in the Bible that you never read, not stories but factual history of Israel and the corrupt world of yester years and of today, read it and you may gain some insight to what and who you are, evil calls evil good and good evil and your the perfect example of it.

        • R. Fine

          The “creation” of the universe as told in the Bible is in total contradiction with science. Also, snakes can not speak and a woman can not be formed from a man’s rib and people can’t be swallowed by fish and live to tell the tale and you could never fit 2 or 8 of every species on earth on to a rather small boat not to mention having room for all the food needed over a 40 day period. The Bible is mythology just as the Egyptian and Greeks myths are and a number of the stories in the Old Testament come directly from the Mesopotamian Book of Gilgamesh. In any case go on taking it literally if you like but you’d find it a much more interesting collection of stories if you looked at it critically and historically. And, by the way, do you also believe in the Tooth Fairy & Santa? The Wizard of Oz might be a film you should review. The best part is when – after a long search Dorothy and the others finally reach the castle and Toto pulls back the curtain to reveal that the Wizard (i.e. God) is just a hoax.

      • Karolyn

        Of course, Benjamin, historical facts in the Bible are facts, but the stories are myths and allegories created by man.

    • Baron Zedlitz

      Yes they have, haven’t they? You and your kind give up the real God, so you can worship [racist comments have been removed] you know, the one that lives in the White House.

      • Donna

        Another bigoted remark. God would not approve.

    • Karolyn

      The truth that lies at our center is the voice of God.

      • http://www.facebook.com/benjamin.fox.98892 Benjamin Fox

        Karolyn the voice you hear is a god you made up to do your bidding, not the God that inspired the Bible, I have taught OT and NT for years and no mistakes and not myth or stories, never a contradiction to those who have a personal relationship with Him only those who don’t know Him speak as if they had some knowledge of what they He says and don’t. I drove a taxi and carried my Bible on the dash board and many would say it was myth and had thousands of mistakes in it and I would reply, show me just one, not two or three but just one and this ride is free and I have a $1000.00 in the bank that is yours, over 20 years and nobody got a free ride or the $1000.00 but, I did give free rides to the needy and even paid to put them up if homeless for a time to get on their feet which is something the left doesn’t do without getting something in return, like their blind votes for a evil person who wants to destroy this nation and then become the false messiah of the world.

      • R. Fine

        Listen more carefully to those voices – you may be hearing the voice of Zeus and/or Amun Ra!

      • Karolyn

        Benjamin – It’s all in the perception. I used to be a Christian until I found a God that is not angry, does not punish people for who and what they are, is not jealous, etc. etc. An omnipotent being has no need of those human traits. They were given to God by man, and the Bible is a control mechanism. Why else would the Council of Nicea leave out parts of it that give people more personal power. “Ye are all Gods.” “The kingdom of Heaven is within.” God is universal intelligence. We are all one. No one I have ever spoken to has been able to answer why some events in the Bible, such as the birth of Christ, have so many similarities to more ancient texts. There is also the matter of interpretation and the usage and meaning of many words. Scribes made mistakes too, especially when it was copied and recopied ad infinitum.

      • Donna

        That may be, but God (if you believe) has given us free will.

  • DD

    I’m not intimate with O, just a rational thinking person.

    • Nadzieja Batki

      DD, except you are not a rational thinking person because you have no idea what those concepts mean.

    • Waldo

      DD
      Rational and Liberal in the same universe do not compute.

      • Donna

        Definition of Liberal… broad-minded; especially : not bound by authoritarianism, orthodoxy, or traditional forms

        Definition of Conservative…Disposed to conserve existing conditions, or to restore traditional ones, and to limit change.

        So which one are you Waldo? I’m very happy to be liberal.

        • Bob666

          Samuri1966

          * Delusions. These beliefs are not based in reality and usually involve misinterpretation of perception or experience. They are the most common of schizophrenic symptoms.

          * Hallucinations. These usually involve seeing or hearing things that don’t exist, although hallucinations can be in any of the senses. Hearing voices is the most common hallucination among people with schizophrenia.

          *Thought disorder. Difficulty speaking and organizing thoughts may result in stopping speech midsentence or putting together meaningless words, sometimes known as word salad.

          * Disorganized behavior. This may show in a number of ways, ranging from childlike silliness to unpredictable agitation

          Go back and take your medications and those voices in your head will go away.

          • sam1966

            The personal attack. Classic 5th column strategy. I refuse to answer such a less intelligent response. If I did, I would take a chance of being banned. I’ll be a bigger man and just leave it at this. Have a good time with your boyfriend. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!

            You need both love of country and faith in God to be a patriot. This leaves you out.

            “Respect your country always. Respect your government, when they earn it.”

            Samuel Clemens

          • Bob666

            Samuri1966
            These are not an attacks but observations of a very strained man quoting incoherent babble by two different personalities (both nuts) and obvious paranoia with a detachment from reality.

            Let me translate, if the straight jacket fits, well yours is tailor made.

            * Delusions. These beliefs are not based in reality and usually involve misinterpretation of perception or experience. They are the most common of schizophrenic symptoms.

            * Hallucinations. These usually involve seeing or hearing things that don’t exist, although hallucinations can be in any of the senses. Hearing voices is the most common hallucination among people with schizophrenia.

            *Thought disorder. Difficulty speaking and organizing thoughts may result in stopping speech midsentence or putting together meaningless words, sometimes known as word salad.

            * Disorganized behavior. This may show in a number of ways, ranging from childlike silliness to unpredictable agitation

            Go back and take your medications and those voices in your head will go away.

  • Ann

    Wayne, you are right that taxes do nothing to rich people. One of the reason why rich people stay rich is that they know how to not pay anything, especially taxes. But you are wrong that taxes do nothing to productive people who are not rich but want to use their talents to become richer. Taxes do everything to these people by killing their chances to compete with established businesses and to succeed.
    There is a reason why richest people support Obama. Socialism, the dream of the current president of America doesn’t eliminate social inequality; it makes it permanent where everybody know where they belong to and don’t dare to try to change their status.
    Probably it’s time to Americans to read Lenin to understand what Obama is doing and why he is doing this. American left has a very poor imagination. They are incapable of new inventions.

  • Ken10

    I really don’t Think Wayne is going to leave.

    Things to do before the next debt ceiling/sequester vote:

    1. Fix the tax code. It should be progressive and based on the ability to pay.
    No more Cayman islands for Mitt
    No more S corporation for the Koch brothers.
    No ‘carried interest” for the Wall Street types
    Phase out mortgage interest tax break for me. No rush there; the housing sector is still far from normal.
    No more tax brackets; hence no “bracket chasing”. Crunching numbers is something computers do well.
    Etc.

    I’ll feel a good deal better about paying my taxes when I believe they are fair.

    The Democrats tax and spend. The Republicans tax and spend. There is no getting away from it. In general, I prefer how the Democrats tax and what they spend the money on.

    • Bob666

      Yo Ken,
      one of the more retional responses on this site.

  • Terry Bateman

    Wayne Root says he can do business with me even if he is overseas. I say he can’t.
    He can’t sell me a car. He can’tsell me a house. He can’t sell me groceries. He can’t
    sell me electricity, natural gas, gasoline, clothes, furniture or anything that is not
    available in the U.S. cheaper and better. For his information, American based businesses
    are re-shoring production and business processes to America from overseas.
    You can go overseas to escape American taxes, but the real reason you might have
    less taxes overseas is because you will have less income.

    I do feel the federal government could make more in tax collections by charging
    a flat 20% minimum and maximum tax to all income $1 up: Individual, farm, corporate,
    dividend.capital gains, estate, etc., with absolutely no deductions, exemptions,
    exclusions, and credits.

    I do feel the federal and state governments could help people make money by
    eliminating regulatory blocks to commerce. I do believe that the federal and
    state governments could operate better with a lot less money if private auditors
    could improve their processess.

    I believe that states are losing people more for their regulatory burdens than for
    their tax rates. If people could freely operate their commerce without government
    hindrances, they could make plenty of money and pay the taxes to an efficiently
    run state and local government that maintains a world class infrastructure
    and education system, WERE THAT THE CASE.

  • USN retired

    Obama is winning the war. He has reduced this country to a near 3rd word economy exactly where he wanted it. Socialism cannot survive in an economically secure country. It must be that way in order for the oligarchy to exist. Basically a futile system in which most of the population is dependent on the government. We rejected that type of system, that is why the US exits and the revolution took place. Can our people be so mesmerized by Obama as to accept his destruction of the longest existing constitutional republic in history?(you don’t see our millionaire plus rich rushing to Africa, Greece, France and other economically similar countries) A few men and women that thru their socialist Nazi philosophy want to drag this country into a 3rd world existence. Most of the legal and illegal immigrants that have come to this country are here to get away from that type of system. It is my understanding that thousand of undocumented immigrants are leaving this country to find a better place to live.

  • DD

    “the Holy Spirit guided and directed, without error, those who God chose to write down His words.”

    Really? Have you ever seen the Holy Spirit? Do you really believe this? Why didn’t the Holy Spirit make everyone in the world a Christian if SHE was so powerful? And why are there so many interpretations of the Bible?

    • Joy Thompson

      God did not make us robots…we have free choice. Not all interpretations of the Bible are correct. You have to go back to the original manuscripts and interpret them from the original Hebrew and Greek. There are around 5000 hand-copies of all or part of the Bible and they agree in over 98% of the text. There is no disagreement with any major doctrine.

      • R. Fine

        I hope you don’t eat pork or shellfish or mix dairy products with meat. If you do you are in contradiction with the word of the Creator.

      • Joy Thompson

        To R. Fine: The dietary guidelines were just some of the rules from God for the Israelites who were living under the LAW, the old covenant. The old covenant shows us how, no matter how we try, we can never earn salvation through works, our own efforts…”so that no one can boast.” Ephesians 2:8, (part). After Jesus, we are living under the new covenant. “By calling this covenant ‘new’, he has made the first one obsolete; and what is obsolete and aging will soon disappear.” Hebrews 8:13. “When you were dead in your sins and…your sinful nature, God made you alive with Christ. He forgave us all our sins, having canceled the written code, with its regulations, that was against us and that stood opposed to us; he took it away, nailing it to the cross. And having disarmed the powers and authorities, he made a public spectacle of them, triumphing over them by the cross. Therefore do not let anyone judge you by what you eat or drink, or with regard to a religious festival, a New Moon celebration or a Sabbath day. These are a shadow of things that were to come; the reality however, is found in Christ.” Colossians 2:13-17. “…our Savior appeared, he saved us, not because of righteous things we had done, but because of his mercy. He saved us through the washing of rebirth and renewal by the Holy Spirit, whom he poured out on us generously through Jesus Christ our savior, so that, having been justified by his grace, we might become heirs having the hope of eternal life…but avoid foolish controversies and genealogies and arguments and quarrels about the law, because these are unprofitable and useless.” Titus 3:4-9, (part). God bless you.

        • robbiefine@hotmail.com

          I am sorry to inform you that the dietary “guidelines” are direct Commandments from God. And it was Jesus (in case it matters) who said that he was come to fulfil the laws not overturn them. Most of the laws western society claims to uphold come from the Books of Moses in the Old Testament. If you hate gays, well, that’s from Leviticus as well as Deuteronomy. If you are fond of promoting the creation of the world and life itself by talking about the Garden of Eden, well, that’s also the Old Testament. And I don’t put much stock in those who decide that some of God’s Commands can be dropped because they are not modern enough or whatever – you either follow God’s laws or you don’t. Picking and choosing doesn’t cut it for it allows everyone else to do the same which ends up with everyone “doing their own thing.” Following the dictates of the Sermon on the Mount is even more difficult than following the Old Testament laws. Few have ever been able to do so – perhaps Saint Francis and one or two others.

          I remember about three years ago President Obama listed a few commands by Jesus from the Mount which were in direct contradiction of U.S. foreign policy i.e.) “Resist not evil” and turn the other cheek and do good to those who persecute you etc. The anti Obama Bible thumpers jumped all over him for daring to speak negatively about American military might and yet the idea comes directly from the mouth of their supposed Lord (Jesus). I often feel that many so-called religious or fundamentalists have not even read the Bible or, if they have, that they did not actually understand it.

          I had some folks come to my door once and the jist of their little routine was that I had better follow the Bible word for word or I was going to go to hell. I asked if that included the Old Testament. “Yes” they said. Every single word had to be followed – no picking and choosing allowed. Fine I said and then I asked where they bought their meat. They found that an odd question. They bought their meat from a local grocery chain which I knew did not sell Kosher products. They didn’t even know what that meant. I find most Bible thumpers to actually be pretty dumb – almost illiterate. They know a few pat phrases which they go on and on about again and again but their knowledge of the Torah and Bible and everything else is extremely superficial.

          • Donna

            Good comment Robbiefine.

          • sam1966

            Speaking ill about yourself again, hmmm? Here is one about how Obama bin Laden says he forgets about praying to allah when he turns on cable news channels:

            http://www.visiontoamerica.com/13911/obama-after-prayer-breakfast-i-go-watch-cable-and-forget-about-praying/

            FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!

            You need both love of country and faith in God to be a patriot.

            “It is impossible to rightly rule the world without God and the Bible.”

            George Washington

          • DD

            Another untrue and ridiculous statement. The President did not say that he forgets to pray when he turns on Cable Vision news. Try looking at the quote again. Or better yet, why don’t you go to Youtube and watch the actual speech. You might learn something. I can’t believe that all of you haters of the President are actually Christian. I do believe you must be the spawns of the Devil himself. No true Christian can hold that much hatred in their hearts.

          • sam1966

            Wrong answer DD. I don’t hate the man, you know hate the sin and not the sinner. I do have the right as a Christian to hate and rebel against any law, legislation, and action that is not just. Try reading your Bible sometime. Remember the quote, “Resistance to tyranny is obedience to God”? It seems you don’t. I don’t hatehim himself, just the unjust thins (sins) he does. Here is something that shows how libturd/progturd lifestyle can lead to becomming a murderer:

            http://www.politicaloutcast.com/2013/02/the-rampaging-gunman-that-liberalism-built/

            Now who are the ones full of hate and discontent? FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!

            You need both love of country and faith in God to be a patriot.

            “If we ever forget that we are One Nation Under Go, then we will be a nation gone under.”

            Ronald Reagan

            *I did get the quote right.

        • http://naver samurai

          100% agree fellow patriot. Here is Michelle Malkin on the attack dealing with Obama bin Laden and his many lies. You go girl!

          http://www.conservativevideos.com/2013/02/sean-hannity-michelle-malkin-double-team-juan-williams-over-obamas-lies/

          FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!

          You need both love of country and faith in God to be a patriot. This leaves R. Fine out.

          “A patriot must be a religious man.”

          Thomas Jefferson

          • R. Fine

            Yes, I’m on the outs. For one thing I’m not a patriot in your sense of the word because I am not an American – I’m Canadian. My connections to the U.S. are many and deep but up here we do not place much emphasis on jingoism. We were not born out of revolution and we did not have the same kind of wild west that you did. The historical development of Canad, was much more peaceful and calm than that in the U.S. I’m also on the outs as far as religion because I know there is no god other than the man made ideas dreamed up by people to satisfy some of the questions all humans seem to have about the cause of and meaning of life. The god that has been created in our tradition is so similar to the ancient Egyptian and Mesopotamian traditions. In fact many Bible myths come directly from those two older cultures. And you should keep in mind that democracy was created in the first place by a civilization/culture that you would consider to be pagan. I guess you know that right? That was back in the 5th. century B.C.

          • DD

            A good answer R. Fine….”because I know there is no god other than the man made ideas dreamed up by people to satisfy some of the questions all humans seem to have about the cause of and meaning of life.”

            It’s a human need to believe in something outside of themselves because they can’t understand it themselves. Life and death is what it is. We become part of the earth again, we become the soil, the air, the water. We do not float around on some mythical cloud somewhere with golden gates to go through. It’s a nice fantasy, but a fantasy none the less.

    • http://www.facebook.com/benjamin.fox.98892 Benjamin Fox

      DD are you really as stupid as your comment implies? The Holy Spirit in whom you don’t know is always He and not she and if God didn’t give us a choice then we would all be robots like yourself to a little god called satan. God gave us free will but, you gave up yours to live on a fools plantation where you are a slave to stupid and dumb, your choice bud.

      • Donna

        You know for sure that God was a He and not a She? Maybe He was a She in drag.

  • Drifter

    Tina Turner has been in Switzerland for several decades…

  • DD

    Obama has saved the country. The stock market (all those rich people investing) is almost at it’s highest again. Jobs are coming back. Housing is coming back. What exactly has he done to turn us into a third world country?

    • Ann

      DD, where exactly did you get such a pretty picture of the country of today? According to official statistic reports, jobs are not coming back. The amount of created jobs doesn’t exceed the amount of lost jobs. Official unemployment rate stay unchanged. If you add to that percentage also all the people who completely lost their hope to find a job, stay-at-home parents who would be happy to go back to work but cannot do it, high-school and college graduates without a job who is not counted as unemployed because they never worked before, increased number of people claiming disability who would not do it if they would have a job, the percentage of unemployed would be much higher.
      Yes, housing prices are increasing, but there is very little of new construction, even less for single-family housing. Working Americans whose total household income fell down under Obama cannot afford buying houses. Rich people, many of them are not Americans and don’t plan to live there buy properties as an investment, which has bad long-time impact on the economy.

      • http://wildeyguns.com The Christian American

        Housing prices aren’t increasing. Where? By Obama and his ilk granting issuing low interest mortgages, he is in effect buying all the homes in America. When hyperinflation hits, who’s going to foreclose on all the homes? What was a legimate business between banks and home buyers has been taken over by our Communist government

        • Donna

          You need to look up the facts. Yes the unemployment RATE went up because people are more encouraged that jobs are coming back and they have started looking again. You have to look beneath the numbers. The jobs reports have all been increased over the last year and over 1M jobs were added on top of the original reports. Obama is not buying any homes. Where do you get your information? Communist government? Daffy,Daffy,Daffy comment!

          • robbiefine@hotmail.com

            Christian American needs to tune in to news outlets that are reality based.

      • Karolyn

        Here where I live the housing market is great. New construction in Charlotte is booming, and there are not enough in-town units for people. And jobs ARE coming back from overseas. You cannot expect miracles overnight, but you can give credence to what IS occurring. Instead of constantly looking at the glass as half empty, see it as half full. Negativity begets negativity.

        • Donna

          Karolyn, Thank goodness there’s someone here with some sense.

      • Karolyn
      • Ann

        To Karolyn,
        First, you forgot that the situation in North Carolina, which, by the way, is Right To Work state is completely different than in California, which follows all the ‘recommendations’ of Obama administration and from where small businesses run away everywhere including North Carolina or oversea.
        Second, increasing sales of luxury houses which CNNMoney describes as a big achievement, is actually a very bad sign of economy in America, because it means that instead of investing in new businesses and new jobs, investors put their money in real estate which doesn’t produce many jobs or new research and development.
        I agree that looking to a glass as half full is better than as half empty. The problem is that currently, the glass looks pretty much upside down.

      • Karolyn

        Ann – I live in rural South Carolina and a realtor friend of mine is selling just about a house a week, and they are not big houses. Land is a big thing here too. I am 50 miles south of Charlotte, which is a vey prosperous city. I occasionally get to see how the “other half” lives when visiting Charlotte.

      • matforce

        Ann, the nation and its financial/investment sector were in a free-fall when Obama took office. The $4.7 TRILLION bailout of Wall Street banks and the Financial Insurance industries was the tip of the iceburg to stop the bleeding. Some estimates place the total cost at closer to $20 TRILLION when you consider the ripple effect of lost jobs (income and revenue) and unemployment compensation costs, lost retail sales and revenue, a 35% reduction in real estate value (some areas were way worse), homes lost, in foreclosure, or underwater, reduction in home sales, downturn in construction, etc. What economy can sustain that? Deregulation of the financial sector (Gramm, Leach Bliley Act, 1999), the FTAs our legislature granted our corporate sector, that in effect, allowed USA Inc. to kick the high wage USA worker to the curb for a larger profit margin from sweatshops abroad, while allowing these cheap goods to roll up on our shores daily in Maersk freighters with payload capacities of 2.2 million train car sized “containers” to soak a declining USA middle class they’ve displaced; NAFTA (1994) and other FTAs (GATT- 1994, WTO- 1999,) to appease our “multinationals.” These were bills that benefitted nobody but the top and were championed by the GOP long before Obama came along (although Obama has endorsed current FTAs, probably to appease the Plutocrats…?)

        See the fate of Bill S3816; says it all. http://www.opencongress.org/bill/111-s3816/show

    • FreedomFighter

      Bagdad Bob strikes again…

      Laus Deo
      Semper FI

    • Nadzieja Batki

      DD, I asked you before, how intimate are you with O to know exactly to minutest detail how he is saving America?

      • DD

        One doesn’t have to be inimate with Obama to know how the economy is doing. One just has to read, listen and observe without malice and hatred.

    • http://www.facebook.com/benjamin.fox.98892 Benjamin Fox

      DD the mouth piece for evil, your messiah is destroying not building up this country, he is a nazi who wants to be worshipped as God and your one of his slaves who lie’s like he does, is as evil as he is and could care less as long as you can steal from those who work and get your handouts without labor, your a spokeman for satan and his son obozo and will pay someday for your wicked ways if you don’t change.

      • DD

        Which is he, a Marxist or a Nazi? Totally opposite forms of Government.

        • http://www.boblivingstonletter.com/ Bob Livingston

          Dear DD,

          You write: “Which is he, a Marxist or a Nazi? Totally opposite forms of Government.” No they are not. Nazi is the acronym of Nationalsozialismus (German) and National Socialist (English). They are both totalitarian. You need to further study history.

          Best wishes,
          Bob

          • Donna

            Fascism and Marxism are often confused because they appeared as political philosophies at roughly the same point in history and some 20th century governments mixed socialist and fascist rhetoric. In a way, though, fascism and Marxism are opposites. Both philosophies call for a strong central government but fascists believe that the role of the people is to serve the state while Marxists believe that the state exists to serve the people.

            Nazism- The National Socialist Party of Germany in the 1930′s and 40′s. They promoted the same ideologue as Fascism except they adapted it to the individual national circumstance (Germany)… ie. Anti-semetism

          • http://www.boblivingstonletter.com/ Bob Livingston

            Dear Donna,

            You write: “In a way, though, fascism and Marxism are opposites.” Both are totalitarian gangs fighting over the same turf.

            “Both are variants of statism, based on the collectivist principle that man is the rightless slave of the state—that both are socialistic, in theory, in practice, and in the explicit statements of their leaders—that under both systems, the poor are enslaved and the rich are expropriated in favor of a ruling clique—that fascism is not the product of the political “right,” but of the “left”—that the basic issue is not “rich versus poor,” but man versus the state, or: individual rights versus totalitarian government—which means: capitalism versus socialism.” From The Objectivist

            “Each activity and each need of the individual will thereby be regulated by the party as the representative of the general good. There will be no license, no free space, in which the individual belongs to himself. This is socialism — not such trifles as the private possession of the means of production. Of what importance is that if I range men firmly within a discipline they cannot escape? Let them then own land or factories as much as they please. The decisive factor is that the State, through the party, is supreme over them, regardless whether they are owners or workers. All that, you see, is unessential. Our socialism goes far deeper.” –Adolf Hitler

            Best wishes,
            Bob

          • DD

            And Bob Livingston, what exactly does either form of government have to do with the USA? If you are trying to tie them to the current Presidency, you’ll need to study him a little more. Don’t fall for the trap that RWTP people want you to believe, the trap that Rush Limbaugh wants you to believe, the trap that Sean Hannity wants you to believe, the trap that Mark Levin wants you to believe or Drudge and others. You have to go beyond the extreme right wing media to make better judgements.

      • matforce

        While we’re splitting hairs trying to place a fine point on what has become of America the
        Beautiful, land of opportunity, a nation that was once responsive to the collective will of the majority, ruled by a representative form of government that used a democratic process to determine the will of the republic (for this thrust I will steer clear of capitalism and the traditional free market system). I would argue that neither fascism, nor nazism, nor marxism hits the mark.

        I believe a better descriptive term(s) for our current corrupted form of government that has been increasingly dominated over the past 30 years by BIG $$$ to subvert, and circumvent the will of the people, while simultaneously using their minions to deceive and hoodwink the masses with deceptive, practiced, shrill cries of outrage and panic to appeal to our worst instints of anger, fear, hate, and prejudice, signified by “winner takes all,” “only the strong survive,” “dog eat dog,” “every man for himself,” “those with the most toys wins,” etc.replacing the old axioms of “a rising tide lifts all boats,” ” we’re all in this together,” “united we stand,” I got your back,” or “I am my brother’s keeper.” to divide us, would be one or a combination of these terms: Oligarchy or Plutocracy.

  • Scott

    Yes, I’ve always said, this will implode,!!! Now it’s becoming apparent. We work hard for our money and tired of giving it away. We happen to live in Nj and taxes are ridiculous. Our property taxes alone are chasing us out after we retire. House is paid off and just the taxes after 5 years is 60,000 . And with Barack it is getting worse we are out…

    • http://wildeyguns.com The Christian American

      The Communist form of government says that all of the people’s wealth goes to the government so they can disribute just enough to the people for their existence and keep working to get the government more. That’s what we have to look forward for with this form of government in power.

      • mamamia

        You Lie like a devil. Where on earth do you get that idea? Poor thing.

  • chuckb

    This was written by a 21 yr old female who gets it. It’s her future she’s worried about and this is how she feels about the social welfare big government state that she’s being forced to live in! These solutions are just common sense in her opinion.

    This was in the Waco Tribune Herald, Waco , TX

    PUT ME IN CHARGE . . .

    Put me in charge of food stamps. I’d get rid of Lone Star cards; no cash for Ding Dongs or Ho Ho’s, just money for 50-pound bags of rice and beans, blocks of cheese and all the powdered milk you can haul away. If you want steak and frozen pizza, then get a job.

    Put me in charge of Medicaid. The first thing I’d do is to get women Norplant birth control implants or tubal ligations. Then, we’ll test recipients for drugs, alcohol, and nicotine. If you want to reproduce or use drugs, alcohol, or smoke, then get a job.

    Put me in charge of government housing. Ever live in a military barracks? You will maintain our property in a clean and good state of repair. Your home” will be subject to inspections anytime and possessions will be inventoried. If you want a plasma TV or Xbox 360, then get a job and your own place.

    In addition, you will either present a check stub from a job each week or you will report to a “government” job. It may be cleaning the roadways of trash, painting and repairing public housing, whatever we find for you. We will sell your 22 inch rims and low profile tires and your blasting stereo and speakers and put that money toward the “common good..”

    Before you write that I’ve violated someone’s rights, realize that all of the above is voluntary. If you want our money, accept our rules. Before you say that this would be “demeaning” and ruin their “self esteem,” consider that it wasn’t that long ago that taking someone else’s money for doing absolutely nothing was demeaning and lowered self esteem.

    If we are expected to pay for other people’s mistakes we should at least attempt to make them learn from their bad choices. The current system rewards them for continuing to make bad choices.

    AND While you are on Gov’t subsistence, you no longer can VOTE! Yes, that is correct. For you to vote would be a conflict of interest. You will voluntarily remove yourself from voting while you are receiving a Gov’t welfare check. If you want to vote, then get a job.

    This would go a long way in settling the nations problems and at the same time keeping people like Barry out of the White House.

    • http://wildeyguns.com The Christian American

      When people gained the ability to put their hands into the public treasury, that was the beginnig of the end for America. Stupid as is, people think government money is created by some mystical power. They haven’t figured out that all the money that the government has came from the fruits of their own labors. THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS GOVERNMENT MONEY, unless you consider ill gotten loot as the governments money. It’s Robin the hood government. People see what people on the dole are getting and instead of realizing that they can’t go to government for money either for the fruits of another man’s labors, if our Constitutional system is to to work, Up until 1910, the only money that the federal government got was FET, federal excise taxes. How did we last that long without federal income taxes? Income taxes are criminal to begin with because the amendment that got them was NEVER RATIFIED. Truth is very simple but criminal rational is very very complicated.

    • Waldo

      Chuck
      You Rock, I agree totally, especially with the no vote while on government assistance. This does not include Social Security or Medicare as those we paid into for decades and earned these reimbursements.

      • coaCcc

        I agree

      • http://www.facebook.com/benjamin.fox.98892 Benjamin Fox

        Amen Waldo, we gave thinking it was a investment, now they try to say it is a benefit. Johnson opened the door while he was president to steal our money to give to the socialist at will and now thinks we are living off the govrnment that was suppose to invest it for our future, the big lie of the left. They stole it from us and give it to those who don’t work or care to work at our expense, time to put a stop to this socialist government and tell them to give us our money or go pound dirt.

    • mark

      You should not be able to vote if you get a government check? Of course that would mean stripping the right to vote from the 3 million men and women in the U.S. military – active and reserve, the 65 million Americans who receive Social Security and Medicare, the 15 million Americans who receive veterans pensions and benefits, the 30 million Americans who work for the government at the federal, state, county, and city levels. The tens of millions of Americans laid off from work during this recession through no fault of their own due to this recession. Good luck trying to enact this stupid proposal into law. You would really have a revolution then. But the multi-milionaires who fund the Tea Party would sure love it.

      • http://wildeyguns.com The Christian American

        Anyone living on the dole should loose his or her right to vote. Prisoners don’t have the right to vote because they are not contributing to society.

        • Bob666

          Yo CA,
          just to be clear,I get a social security check-no Vote???

      • Donna

        Thank you Mark. Another smart comment.

    • mamamia

      Man, talk about taking your liberty. Yes,welfare waste is rampant. But, you can’t take away peoples civil liberties. You can’t dictate what someone chooses to eat! You can’t deny the american any of their civil liberties. Aren’t you the same people who keep saying that Obama is taking your freedom? So what would you call this situation. When I received food stamps years ago, I bought what I felt like eating whether it was salads, fruits and vegetables or a big, fat, giant ass steak. It is my civil right as an American to choose!

      • http://www.facebook.com/benjamin.fox.98892 Benjamin Fox

        Mamamia, what statue in the Constitution says you have a right to anything you don’t work for, it isn’t there and never was, SS and medicare were paid for out of our pay checks for the future, not a handout, not a freebee but earned and worked for so get off your high horse and learn real history and quit your destortions of the Bill of Rights and the Constitution as you have no idea what either say.

        • MLR

          Benjamin Fox,
          Establish Justice, insure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defence,promote GENERAL WELFARE, and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our Posterity.
          Sounds kind of like a socialist document to me

          • Patriot

            I am quite certain that the phrase ‘Promote the General Welfare’ in the Preamble to the Constitution did not mean completely subsidize the lives and lifestyles of millions of people indefinitely at the expense of those that earn a living.

          • MLR

            Of course it doesn’t. But it doesn’t mean giving billions upon billions to multi-national companies, that were once American companies either

          • Patriot

            Agreed. In which case both parties are corrupt, destructive, divisive, and responsible for the destruction of our Republic. And current Criminal in Chief and his party’s representatives as well as the previous Criminal in Cheif and his representatives should be held accountable for what they have done, and continue to do with the people of this country.

          • MLR

            I agree 100%

  • Carol Brink

    The government has far exceeded their rights in governing the citizens. All the programs that they have started are not for the benefit of the people, but to gain votes for politicians re-elections. Our monstrous government has an insatiable appetite for money. They have no desire to curb their wasteful spending. It is good that low income and the needy have help when they need it, but outright robin hood thivery by the government is wrong. When the wealthy leave, the government will reach down to place deeper taxes on the middle class. So, while you may have no sympathy for the wealthy, when it reaches you, and it will, there will be an attitude adjustment. Instead of helping the uninsured to obtain insurance, Obama overhauled the entire health insurance system and in so doing has destroyed it. This will be proven ou by 2014. Our government needs to get back to smaller, limited government where the people are not taxed and regulated to death. And where the people can breath without government interference.

    • Don in Ohio

      Carol, well said!
      What I don’t understand is why the LIV (low information voter) make no attempt to figure this out.

      • R.F.

        The Affordable Health Care Act will provide proper health care for some 40 million Americans who would otherwise be denied proventitive medicine and eventually end up in ER’s at tax payer expense anyway. This is but one example of something positive for the people. As a Canadian I can tell you that universal health care is smartest thing you folks have accomplished in a long time. Mind you Obama was not able to get it done properly – you still have private insurance companies that soak up 30% of all health care dollars!!! Totally nuts. Hopefully you’ll get some improvements in his second term. Even Mitt Romney who brought in universal health care in his state praised socialized medicine when he was in Israel. Israel, he said (correctly) has the best health care record in the world and not expensive. But that was before someone told him that Israel has socialized medicine so he probably flip flopped on that.

        • sam1966

          SSDD eh R.F.? Or is it R. Fine? Or is it robbiefine@—–? How often do you change your name? BTW, it is 30 million and not 40. Second, those 30 million just need to change what they spend on or get a job to afford insurance. Remember, some of our founding principles are self reliance (Relying on yourself to get the insurance you need.), personal responsibility (You, not the government is responsible for this to happen. 100%), and the vigilance to ensure that government remains our servants and not our masters (Small, limited government.). Why do you always talk about Canada and its health system, when many Canadians that are waiting for an opening to have surgery, come to the USA for their operations? I guess that certain people don’t want to wait for months on end to save their health and their lives. Are you sure you are from Canada? You sound like some less intelligent troll named kang. He says the same lies also. Probably because he doesn’t believe in earning his keep. You know, not entitled to anything they don’t earn. Here is something from a doctor dealing with healthcare and other “PC” nonsense.

          http://www.conservativevideos.com/2013/02/doctor-slams-political-correctness-in-front-of-obama-at-the-national-prayer-breakfast/

          FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!

          You need both love of country and faith in God to be a patriot. This leaves you out.

          “And they left all the commandments of the Lord their God, and made molten images, even two calves, and made a grove, and worshipped all the host of heaven, and served Baal. And they caused their sons and their daughters to pass through the fire, and used divination and enchantments, and sold themselves to do evil in the sight of the Lord, to provoke Him to anger. Therefore the Lord was very angry with Israel, and removed them out of His sight: there was none left but the tribe of Judah only. Also Judah kept not the commandments of the Lord their God, but walked in the statutes of Israel which they made. And the Lord rejected all the seed of Israel, and afflicted them, and delivered them into the hand of spoilers, until He had cast them out of His sight.”

          2 Kings 17:16 – 20

          *If we aren’t careful, this will happen to us. You and your 5th column ilk will go first.

          • Bob666

            “SSDD eh R.F.? Or is it R. Fine? Or is it robbiefine@—–? How often do you change your name”?

            so says the guys with multiple personalities that post with one right after the other.

            Kind of like the pot calling the kettle black?

          • R.F.

            I can tell you that one of the things Canadians are most pleased with and proud of is our universal health care system (I believe you call it evil commie pinko etc., hee, hee). It is not as good as the Israeli universal health care system (which Mitt Romney touted as the best in the world until someone told him it was socialism!!!) but we basically love it. Israel, by the way, includes dental for children which we Canadians can only dream of. I can also tell you that many Americans come here for certain specialty treatments. When I had a hernia operation my roommate and half the other patients were Yankees (who had to pay full fare while we Canadians paid the grand sum of $0), The Montreal Heart Institute attracts patients from all over the world. Of course America has excellent hospitals but availability to one and all is the problem. One of the funny things of your famous Sarah Palin is that she admitted that not all that long ago her family would get medical treatment across the border in our Yukon Territory!

            We view health care the same way it is viewed in most of the modern world including Israel: hospitals and health care workers are like the fire dept. We all contribute with tax dollars and when our house catches fire we get the help we need. Do you have stuff like fire depts or police services, mountain rescue, coast guard rescue? I think you do. Well, when you finally catch up with the rest of the enlightened world you’ll view hospitals in the same way as those other critical services. Of course we pay higher taxes than you do but, trust me, when you need heart surgery – as I did two months ago – you really appreciate the fact that your not going to have to sell your first born and your house to pay for it!

            Do we have long hospital waits? It depends. We do hear horror stories from smaller towns (although we also provide our citizens with air ambulance service from remote areas) from time to time but certainly in bigger cities we have few issues. My heart attack happened at 3:00 A.M. and – while I do live near 5 massive hospitals – and by 3:30 I was in the ER and by 4:00 I was in the modern looking operating room with a squad of at least 8 taking charge of everything. And after 5 days in hospitals plus meds and TONS of tests I was released. The bill: $0. And all follow up doctor visits and rehab etc., etc will also cost me $0. 0. For the richest, most powerful nation on earth to not provide essentials services like health care strikes us as nuts.

            One of my close friends and GOP members in N.Y.C. is proud to pay tens of thousands of dollars a year for private health insurance yet when his wife came down with breast cancer he was informed that they were not going to be covered! And even after I point this out to him he still insists that Obamacare won’t work because the private way is best. Boggles the mind.

            Anyhow although my connections with the U.S. are deep and long I do realize that many Americans – especially those who never or hardly ever travel – honestly feel that anything foreign or different simply can not be as good as how it is done at home. You are probably one of these people and without new experiences you will have only the same old, same old to guide you. But, guess what, people live exceeding well in all ways in many, many countries.

            And one last point about this obsession with paying out of your own pocket for medical care. Sad fact for you is that the poor and for folks who can’t afford $150,000 for 5 days in hospital are going to eventually (and more expensively) be paid for by tax payers anyway. Also can you clear something up for me? How come someone who inherits several million dollars or someone who gets super lucky in Las Vegas is allowed better health care than some poor working stiff on minimum wage? How come?

  • Jack Worthington

    The quasi-free market operates to offset criminal political interventions. The “black market” is a kind of check on evil politicians and it functions as a feed-back amplifier to mute the effects of the thieving politicians. I hope more wealthy people just quietly leave the US and take with them all their investments and deliver them to investments in nations and businesses where politicians are far more honest and tax less and thus encourage growth and development and success.

    • Joy Thompson

      And where, pray tell, would that be?

    • Donna

      I assume you’ve seen the most recent report that more than half of the top corporations pay no tax at all, so what you want is half way there. You should move to a country where there’s no tax, The Amazon has no tax. Live with the natives.

  • Michael J.

    W.A.R.
    Even the Skeet Shooter in Chief was never naive enough to believe they could ever tax the rich effectively. No, the plan was to push the wealthy off shore to bankrupt the Republican Party, and then the nation. Come on Wayne, you of all people after attending Columbia U and bumping elbows there with enough junior commies to wallpaper the universe should know how this works. We are now in phase three of the take over, or crisis mode as they call it. The final phase or Normalization as it is called will come as quite a shock to the useful idiots who are no longer useful, the homosexuals, the intelectuals and the free thinkers as none of these are tolerated in a communist regime that now peeks over the horizon.

  • Jim B

    We cannot all flee. We must all turn our focus on the cause of or ills, we should not let them separate themselves in our preview any longer. The correction is not either or, it’s all of it. It’s 17 Trillion dollars of unfunded, and unearned spending. It’s corrupted government agencies, societal police (IRS, DHS, DTF, EPA, TSA……), blatant duplicity and law breaking, and over spending for most every service it provides. I urge all those concerned to no longer smear your fellow citizens in this fight to restore a proper government. Instead refer to government, all sides of government, for what they are, for what they have become… corruption, greed, and incompetence can no longer be tolerated if we want our independence, liberties, and freedoms restored. We must act in unity, we must not let them keep the focus off themselves any longer, we must stop them before they spend Trillions more of our precious futures.

  • Chuck S

    Some time ago I read that there were at that time 1.34 million Americans who just moved out of the US and illegally stopped paying taxes to the US – illegal emigrants. A lot more than renounced their citizenships. Probably a lot more now. Surely the great majority are high income people, or it wouldn’t be worth it.

    When some people move out of bad, liberal areas, they bring their liberalism with them and vote for the same bad stuff in their new homes that they fled. Also, when bad, liberal areas get into the inevitable trouble, they want to tax somebody somewhere else to bail them out. Like states in trouble want the federal government to bail them out. To those who will bring up businesses, I don’t like special tax breaks or bailouts for businesses either.

    Rush Limbaugh moved out of New York in 1996, but every year they still try to tax him as a resident and audit him. Minnesota’s governor wants to tax anybody as resident if he lives in the state 60 days. Liberals are greedy – they want too much of your money. Actually, they could get more of your money if they cut bad, business-killing regulations. Businesses and the economy would prosper. Plus, people would get jobs and need less unemployment.

  • mamamia

    Mr. Root, so your point in this article is that all the billionaires are moving out of the US because of Obamas 4% tax increase? Who do you really think you are scaring? Do you think most Americans really care that billionaires are leaving the US? If they wan’t to be that greedy and not pay an additional 4% on their wealth then I say who needs em. I think it’s a disgrace to leave the country over a small tax hike. Where are all the patriots? That’s what I thought. Profit over loyalty = Anti American.
    Oh darn, my social security tax just increased 2%. Guess I’ll move to Belize…… LOL

    • http://www.facebook.com/benjamin.fox.98892 Benjamin Fox

      You had better care mamamia, since you have no idea what your talking about, yes they are million aires and billion aires because they invested in their idea’s and brought them about, creating jobs for people like you or do you live on the plantation handouts? The top 5 % pay most of the taxes already, a IRS report proves that and 45 % of Americans pay no taxes, so get your head on straight so you don’t have to lie. What have you developed mia? To not get the rewards of your labor is anti-American and socialism over having to educate yourself and put forth the efforts of your idea’s. I served this country to grow and not become a plantation of give me’s like yourself, you serve this country for 12 years to be free to make choices like I did and take your socialist idea’s and move to the handout countries and leave real Americans alone nazi witch.

    • Michael J.

      Mamamia said:

      “I think it’s a disgrace to leave the country over a small tax hike”

      I think you are overlooking the fact that billionaires have their finger on the pulse of the world economy. Maybe they’ve witnessed the next shoe to drop, and decided it was time to get-outa-dodge…

    • Don in Ohio

      mamamia, you say just a little ole 4% increase…
      but you are overlooking state income taxes (about 13% in CA), sale taxes (about 10% in NY), property taxes (Who knows how much?), Obamacare taxes (Yet to be determined), SS, Medicare, tool roads, fees, mandates, etc, etc. And I predict a GUN TAX any day now! And don’t forget the rules on top of rules that make it expensive to do business.
      Every once in a while, Hannity asks a caller “how much of your pay should you get to keep?” How about 80%, isn’t 20% enough to run the Government?
      Revolution is coming to a street near you soon.

  • http://midcontent ridge runner

    Ever dumbocrap is always whining like a pig about everything being about money,money. But these same worthless bas—ds always want everyone else to pay the freight for them and all the other booktrained morons, wholiveoffofthetaxpayersDidanyoneevercheck out how he and his grumpazzed short tailed mate, made it through life, agitationing strife, and shaking down businesses with racist BS. His mate got overpaid posititions on boards, and did nothing productive. Now the muslim marxist and his sow will live off of taxpayers till they become worm castings, to the tune ofover a 1/2 million and that doesn’t cover security and other staffers. It is just the dumbocrap way, live off of everyone else. See any amount of jobs being created, do muslims eat pork, the green crap energy sure isn’t creating real jobs, only pipedreams.

  • http://EXFINITY BARRY

    The reason We The People have this problem with so much taxation is simple- The SAME
    CORRUPT GROUP OF GREEDY NON CARING SO CALLED Representatives are still in
    office in D.C. The only true way for true change is to remove them. Why did so many people in this country believe all the lies ? Well their back and you have no one to blame
    but yourselves. The New America – USA – is going to be known as THE UNITED SLUMS
    OF AMERICA. There are talkers and doers but I suppose you know by now that OBAMA
    is a great talker. GOD BLESS US, for GOD is the only true hope available !

    • coal miner

      That is bigotry.

    • http://personalliberty Alondra

      Yo evil Bobby, Ass with the Swine head, you overdosed by Ecstasy and Cocaine with your White-Negro Faggot. Do not forget to use the condom, because there is a lot of …

  • nana

    peoplestrust1776.com. !!!! oppt-in!!!

  • http://www.facebook.com/bill.rice.50115 Bill Rice

    Two take-aways from story and other comments: 1) Property taxes higher than mortgage payments, man! 2) Workers who collect state/local pensions fleeing to other states once they’ve retired – this is a double whammy for states; they are losing those people who they are obligated to pay indefinitely and who are now no longer paying into system. This process will only accelerate. Bottom line: In future, a lot of states are going to need a lot more bailouts from Fed Government or they are going to have to eliminate virtually all government programs and services to find the money to pay healthcare and pensions for retirees (ex-residents). Also, look for states and cities to continue to raise “fees” and “fines.” For example, I see a lot more traffic cameras in our futures.

  • Dave67

    The wealthy?

    You mean the ones that have the money to buy political connections, lobbying on capitol hill? The ones that creayed out tax code becse they get to to the greatest benefit? The ones that make the economic policy for this country?

    They are leaving? Hmmm Vampires always leave once they have sucked enough blood out to gorge themselves.

    • flipped54

      Yes Dave67, WAR only presents one side of the equation. Good post….

  • DD

    Concerned says:
    February 7, 2013 at 12:04 pm
    @Donna
    You are being pulled in by your big heart. I ended up being a single mom of 4 young ones and never went on welfare. I got a job waiting tables full time and went to school full time. It was very hard but worth it. I was able to purchase my home in my name only and went thru a remodel on the house. As I always tell people where there is a will there is a way as long as you put God first.

    Concerned, you are lucky you were able to get a job that could support your family. Not everyone can do it.

  • DD

    I have a suggestion for those of you who don’t want to give to the needy, say women with children and no man to help support them. Why don’t you give money for child care programs so these women can get their education and get a job? Then they can get off the “dole” and be productive citizens. Better yet, find the men who impregnated them and get them educated and jobs so they can help support their children. If they won’t cooperate, jail them. After all, since you don’t believe in abortion, someone has to pay.

  • DD

    I supposed all people who want to keep their money and pay no taxes are willing to give up their fire protection, police protection, education for their children (since private schools only take the wealthiest and brightest,) trash pick-up, water supply, sewage system. We could live like we did when there were no services. We could go back to the horse and buggy days, growing our own produce, killing our meat and anyone of a different color if they dared walk down the street. We could stand in lines to put out a fire. We could all carry guns and have shoot-outs in the street. We could let the criminals take over because they would have the most fire-power of all. I guess that’s the ideal life for those of you who hate the government and hate taxes.

    • http://smoovious.wordpress.com Smoovious Laxness

      I supposed all people who want to keep their money and pay no taxes are willing to give up their fire protection, police protection, education for their children (since private schools only take the wealthiest and brightest,) trash pick-up, water supply, sewage system.

      If that was all our money is being taken from us to pay for, there would be no problem.

      – Smoov

      • Sandi

        I supposed all people who want to keep their money and pay no taxes are willing to give up their fire protection, police protection, education for their children (since private schools only take the wealthiest and brightest,) trash pick-up, water supply, sewage system.

        I TRULY wish that all my tax money was going there, but we ALL know better! I’m sick and tired of all the B.S. that gets pushed out by the media. What ever happened to ETHICS, etc- its no longer alive anywhere!

    • Notayup

      FYI, not one cent of federal income tax goes towards the services you described. Federal income tax goes directly to the PRIVATELY owned federal reserve bank towards the interest we pay them to print & loan the U.S. government fiat money. It’s the biggest scam of all. Local services, police, fire & schools are payed for by local property & sales tax. The military is funded by corporate taxes

      • Bob666

        Yo NOT,
        “The military is funded by corporate taxes”

        I dont believe that you are correct on that one.

  • DD

    Bill, in answer to your wife’s problems with Section 8, I agree that there are often people who don’t care for their rental property. I can also tell you from personal experience, it’s not just Section 8 people who can abuse property. As a landlord myself, I’ve experienced problems with people who had regular jobs who not only destroyed my property, but began dealing drugs. I’m talking about white, middle class people who had money to spare for drugs. As for the Section 8 cients I work with, I always go into their current home to see how they live. So far, they have been immaculate homekeepers. I haven’t found any yet that have destroyed property and I’ve been in the business for 18 years.

  • Marie

    We lived in Las Vegas for 30 years. When the economy tanked right before Obama was elected it was one of the hardest hit cities in the country. Our house value fell to half and we owed more on it than it was worth. We had other hard ships and we needed to sell our house but we couldn’t because it was a higher end house and with the housing market crash we could not sell it. We had to walk away from our house. Las Vegas depends on tourists and every time there is an economic downturn Las Vegas feels the pain. It is predicted that the dollar will one day crash and the next economic crisis will be worst than the last. We left Vegas because we didn’t want to have to endure that again.

    • Tom

      I think you’ve described a more believable Las Vegas.

    • Sandi

      What you described in housing mkt in Vegas, has happened throughout the USA. There is no exception on that issue. The unfortunate part of it all….the middle and poor class of USA just tanked even further DOWN. The rich are still rich and can buy/afford whatever they want/need. No one else can! I don’t see any rich applying for food stamps because they cant eat.

  • http://www.yahoo.com jeffreyliakos

    I wish more states would do as Tennessee did, which was say no to a state income tax, They use a sales tax for their functions, which is more efficient than an income tax to get the revenue they need for their necessary functions. If we had a national sales tax at the federal level, it would generate the revenue the government requires for its necessary functions and is more progressive than our current system in the sense that wealthy people pay more and poor people pay less.

    • Donna

      The problem with a federal sales tax, you say the rich pay more, but they buy less by percentage of income than the poor. The poor, middle class pay the majority, if not all of their income on food and shelter, clothing, etc. which means that all or most of their income is taxed. The wealthy pay a small percentage of their income on consumer items, so in reality, they are paying less.

      • Tom

        Ah the reasoning of the left, paying more is paying less. I’d rather CUT the size of the Federal Government to where only tariffs are needed to fund functions. A sales tax, sheesh, when the income tax was first created it was promised to never exceed 3%, by the time Wilson left office it was evil and has remained so.

        Likely the “poor” won’t pay much in the way of sales taxes due to exempted items such as food, clothing and medicine. The poor ought to pay taxes on the 60″ 3-D LED telly they buy with welfare trades… I just can’t find the sympathy anymore, not after the Obamanation.

      • http://www.yahoo.com jeffreyliakos

        This is not entirely accurate. Even the 47% of our population that pay no federal income taxes pay other taxes. If we had the Fair Tax, it would let the poor and middle class families build wealth, not remain slavishly dependent upon the federal government for their needs. Under the Fair Tax, people take home 100% of their paychecks regardless of their income. This is a great incentive for wealth creation among the poor and middle class. The poor and middle class could save up the money they earned with no tax liabilities attached. It’s all fine and good to talk about wealth redistribution, but why not enact policies that are conducive to wealth creation? It is a false and misguided notion to think that forced wealth redistribution of wealth willk get us anywhere, which it will not.

    • Sandi

      RIGHT ON!!

    • Sandi

      Sooo true!!!

  • Tom

    “Las Vegas is “America’s Monte Carlo.” It’s a place with no State income tax, business income tax, capital gains tax or inheritance tax, and it has the 16th lowest property taxes in America. It’s a place where the State constitution bans income taxes, limits the time politicians can meet and welcomes guns in the hands of law-abiding citizens. I call it heaven.” Las Vegas, NEVADA I presume. Please account for the election and reelection of the scum Reid? If Nevada is so smart, why elect a Democrat for any office?

    • R. Fine

      Democrat Reid gets elected again and again in Nevada because Nevada simply is not the place you think it is. I might add that President Obama kicked Mitt’s rear in Nevada with a 6 or 7 % margin!

    • Pat

      I could not agree more! Harry Reid is the worst and yet always gets re-elected! I think it is union support that has a lot to do with it! People who belong to public sector unions are liberal zombies!!

      • Joy Thompson

        I used to think he got re-elected because of voter fraud…like Obama. Now, after listening to lots of people, I think they are voting to either keep the status quo…”Things haven’t been that bad…right?”…and/or, they want what they want and they don’t care what happens to future generations…and/or, they are jealous of the rich and think that their wealth isn’t fair and should be distributed…to them. It’s shocking.

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