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The Second Amendment Foundation Group Joins Larger International Movement

March 22, 2010 by  

The Second Amendment Foundation group joins larger international movement The Second Amendment Foundation (SAF) has announced that it is now part of a new international organization whose goal is the protection of firearms rights for private citizens.

Named the International Association for the Protection of Civilian Arms Rights (IAPCAR), the organization met last week in Nuremberg, Germany and brought together gun rights activists from several countries, including Sweden, Norway, Germany, the UK, Canada, Italy and the United States under the banner of Liberty and Security.

“Self-defense is a human right that is not just limited to citizens of the United States thanks to our Second Amendment,” said Alan Gottlieb, SAF executive vice president who also serves as an IAPCAR director.

“This is an important ‘first step’ in regaining much lost ground, and putting the brakes on an international movement to strip private citizens of the means to protect their most cherished right, that of self-defense,” he added.

SAF representatives have also expressed encouragement that after the Germany meeting, groups from countries such as the Philippines, Switzerland, Belgium, Argentina, Finland, India, Israel, Greece, South Africa and Australia are also interested in joining.
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  • Mike

    Understand that the goverments and the power that come with them, are so corrupt, that they will stop at nothing to make firearm ownership illegal, private ownership of firearms is a threat to their agenda. If they can pass Obamacare against the will of the people, they will surely take away your right to bear arms. Obamacare passed because it is a tax on the american people, which the goverment had to pass to satisfy or creditors, (China, Japan,….) The Obamacare program passing, assures America.s creditors of higher taxation on the American people, which the goverment will use to pay interest to their creditors, while borrowing more in the future. The United Nations will become the law governing body of the world and be the inforcer of removing the arms from the people, Obama already has given the united Nations the ability to come into american soil for just that reason!! Becare people, this is no joke, no game, this is real. I’m scared just because I offer these facts, it will come down to punishment for people that talk against such acts by the goverment!

    • James

      Mike, Unfortunately, I agree with your appraisal completely. We’re headed for World Government, which will be communist in nature. Why the Second Amendment Foundation is joining that is puzzling.

      • Dylan

        James says: We’re headed for World Government, which will be communist in nature. Why the Second Amendment Foundation is joining that is puzzling.
        …………………………………………………………………………………………….
        James:
        I’m not sure, but from your wording I think you are misunderstanding SAFs’ move. They have not joined the New World Order. They have joined The International Association for the Protection of Civilian Arms Rights (IAPCAR). I see this as a good move.

        • James

          Dylan, I meant we’re headed for world government regardless of what the SAF, or any other group does.

          • ERIC

            Oh, gosh, golly! Let’s just up and hope for the best. Can you really be that stupid? The ONLY hope we have to retain our Second Amendment rights is to fight the anti-gunners toe to toe. WAKE UP AND SMELL THE COFFEE!

    • Bob

      Hi Mike did you know that Janet Napolitano (Head of Homeland Security) last year put in a formal request to the Russian Government, for four brigades of Russian troops. These troops are to be used in the event of a so called crisis to stop public desent. Things are going on behind the scenes here faster than the public knows. People need to start doing thier homework now, before we lose our freedom forever.

      • Joe H.

        Bob,
        source and proof please!!!

        • Claire

          Joe H–Huh?? I agree-source and proof.

          • rajincajun

            Wake up people, this is serious:

            http://thefightofyourlife.blogspot.com/2010/01/warning-and-report-from-moscow.html

            Report From Moscow:

            Beginning of email: This is the report on the briefing given to the political and military leaders of the Russian government 1-28-10 by a retired flag officer of the US Army in reference to Lt. Gen. Steven Blum Deputy commander NORTHCOM’s request for 3 – 4 Brigades of Russian troops pursuint to an agreement between the US and Russia I refered to on the thread Striking Matches.

            I had this all written and ready to post at 3:00pm local time 7:00am EST when my laptop CRASHED and I lost everything Grrrrrrr. Please excuse me for not rewriting this as quickly as I would have liked to I was more than a little frustrated.

            My ride and escort arrived promptly at 9:00am, after passing through several layers of security and descending 4 stories under the Kremlin to a rather nondescript conference room which looked like it could seat about 30. With a little help from their IT people I was able to connect my laptop to their projector and test the sound system and placed the briefing packets I had brought with me in front of where people would be seated (I was not sure how many people would attend so I made up 30 packets). At 9:40am people started to filter in and the doors were closed at 10:00am, I found it interesting that even here in the depths of the Kremlin armed guards were stationed at both doors.

            The briefing proceeded for 45 minutes and with a few exceptions you could have heard a pin drop for the entire presentation, I was a little concerned that is until I finished and asked if there were any questions. For the next 20 minutes the questions came fast and hard until Minister Lavrov asked “Knowing our capabilities as you do and how the American’s would react what would you expect our losses to be if we were to agree to send security forces to America as part of a larger international force?” I paused for a moment and told him that Russia should expect 75% to 80% causalities and that Russian/American relations would be seriously compromised for at least 2 generations.

            And that was the end of the briefing, as the people left the room several came up to me before leaving to thank me for coming and making an “interesting and thought provoking” presentation. My wife’s cousin invited me to his office for some coffee and until I arrived I had no idea how far up the chain of command he was (he is a member of the Supreme High Command). We talked for about an hour concerning several aspects of the briefing when he handed me an unmarked file, I sat in total disbelief of what I saw. In my hands was a letter from Department of Homeland Security, Secretary Janet Napolitano officially requesting that the Russian Federation contribute 4 brigades of “Advanced Security Forces” as part of a larger multinational force to assist in quelling domestic violence within the United States of America. The letter was dated September 14, 2009 and signed by Secretary Napolitano.

            I think I am going to get drunk tonight.

      • Barry

        Bob, I did not know that? But Thank you for the heads up, I appreciate it very much. Good luck and God Bless you and yours!

      • independant thinker

        While this does not suprise me as others have said we need source and proof.

        • Joe H.

          independant,
          must be he hasn’t got any source or proof!! in other words a lie!!

          • http://www.secondamendmentfoundation.com Dylan

            Joe;
            I wouldn’t be so quick to discount it for lack of source or proof. It is difficult to get copies of original documents, especially something as “sensitive” as that.
            Yesterday I tried to find a copy of Napolitanos’ statement referring to our “returning veterans as right wing subversives” so I could post it on here, and never could find the original copy/draft/doc/ etc. There were thousands of references to it, and news articles talking about it, but I could never find a copy of the document where she actually stated it, although we KNOW she did, because she admitted that she did! (My point: It was just another rumor, BUT ended up being true)

            In reality, it doesn’t matter whether they bring in Russians, Germans, Italians, Britts, or any other lame a$$ United Nations troops. They all wear blue helmets and none of them are going to want to be here.

    • morgansjc

      Mike- Couldn’t agree with you more on most of your points. I’d like to point out that we have not yet signed the U.N. Small Arms Treaty, though H.Clinton is taking with them about it. Pity the first foreign soldier to set foot on U.S. soil to disarm and defile us. He’s a dead man. If, Heaven forbid, the day should come when we have to defend ourselves against domestic tyranny and foreign aggression, just stay calm, service your targets, and stand by your friends. Anyone that comes to harm you and yours has surrendered their right to be human. We won’t be shooting fellow humans. We’ll just be servicing targets. To be clear, I do not in any way advocate revolt, sedition, or any violent acts. I will, however, defend myself and mine against tyranny and agression, as is my Constitutional duty. Not right, duty.

  • Mike

    To pay for the changes, the legislation includes more than $400 billion in higher taxes over a decade and cuts more than $500 billion from planned payments to hospitals, nursing homes, hospices and other providers that treat Medicare patients.

  • Barry

    Does this sound like health care? Cut $500 billion from planned payments to hospitals, nursing homes, hospices and other providers that treat medicare patients? You mean let the old people die, after paying into medicare most of their lives. Just wait, this is just the start of total control over the people, from birth to the grave. And people thought that the slaves were freed? Think again! Wait until the second amendment is taken away.People, fight for your right to bear arms, not violence, but with votes, and letters to your representives. Be heard, or be slaves and make your children and grand children slaves to the goverment as well.

  • MaryJane

    It has been said by greater minds than mine that a people gets the government they deserve. For too many years now I have witnessed this and know it to be true. It is sad for those of us who saw it coming and could do nothing because people chose to see “good” in incremental tyranny by the government under the guise of “it’s good for the American people”. If you’ll notice, last nights dialogue included this inane comment from Pelosi as well as other reps.

    As a lone voice, I must iterate, that Obama will be the dictator when all melts down.

    Oh, all the “good” people chose to see goodness in our laws and programs because they saw something to their gain even if it had to be someone else’s loss. Very sad.

    My birthright has been stolen. The precious gift of free will granted me by our Lord and made law under our Constitution has been stolen.

    To the Republicans I must say, you are a huge part of the problem so don’t try and whitewash yourselves. When you had the majority I did not see anyone abolish the NEA even though we all know that the education system is full of radicals and anti-constitution people.

    Just what did you do to turn our government rightside up again? I am thoroughly disgusted and I doubt many if any of our reps ever read the constitution which they vowed to uphold.

    As to our military…they stupidly cite their allegiance to the Commander in Chief…In actuality, it is the Constitution of the United States to which their allegiance is due.

    Bye-Bye…Ms.American Pie…

    • Joe H.

      MaryJane,
      i think you will find most, if not all, soldiers and vets took a vow to up hold and protect the constitution from all enemies both foreign and domestic. I know for a fact I did and it didn’t end when I was discharged!!!! don’t count our troops as enemies quite yet!!!

      • Dylan

        Joe H:
        You’re absolutely right.
        Janet Napolatano classified our returning troops as “right wing zealots” along with TEA party members,anybody and everybody dissatisfied with our Socialist government, any one against illegal aliens, any Constitutionalists, Libertarians, 2nd amendment supporters, and basically anybody else that is to the right side of the liberal left politically, as right wing anti-government subservisives,,,,
        so anybody that is an “enemy of hers” (like our American soldiers) is a friend of ours.

      • Alan Clark

        Joe, I will second your statement about not discounting our troops just yet. I work with our troops on a daily basis and I have found that most if not all are on the side of freedom, NRA, and all other things that we (the real people of these UNITED STATES OF AMERICA)stand for. I will be counting on them when the $@#T hits the fan as allies in our quest for retaining our freedoms and our country.

    • tomteacher

      Mary Jane is right in some ways…way off base in others…I believe my birthright was stolen also and that Obama (and his machine) will become dictator because many of the American people blindly believe in our government. On the other hand as a teacher I don’t believe the “education system is full of radicals and anti-constitution people” as you so ineptly state. True it tends to run to the liberal side…on the other hand many of us are conservatives and many more fall into the moderate catagory. I take issue with your blanket statement regarding soldiers “stupidly citing their allegiance to the commander in chief”. I was a GI during the lovley little camping trip in Viet Nam….when I took my oath it was to “solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic…”.
      We are not all bleeding heart liberals as you suggest and many of us are defenders of our rights, gun owners and members of the NRA.
      When you make a statement, get it right!

      • Joe H.

        Tomteacher,
        welcome home brother!!!

      • William Bradford

        Hi Tom Teacher–I spent most of my adult life as a career Military NCO-CA ARNG and OR ARNG–after graduating college as a Naval Reservist— when I retired 29 years later (involuntarily due to age discrimination) I went back to night school and got an MA and a teaching credential only to find out that Mexifornia no longer hires Social Sciences teachers.I’m with you 100%

    • Jack

      I agree Mary Jane. I am quilty of apathy and letting it slip away. Dystroyed from within on my watch. I am ashamed but not defeated.

    • morgansjc

      Hi Mary Jane,
      I agree with much of what you say. Obama may be a U.S. citizen, but he’s not an American. Not being raised in the culture, he doesn’t have freedom in his blood and bones as very many of us do.
      You’re far from a lone voice. There are millions of us right beside you. Don’t discount the military so easily. If push comes to shove, I expect the majority of the U.S. military to either stand down or fight with us. Particularly I expect the Marines to say “Shove it!” if asked to fire on or detain U.S. citizens. Take a look at http://www.oathkeepers.org It’s a growing movement primarily composed of military, police, and firefighters, etc., but civilians are welcome to join too. Don’t join unless you’ll walk what you talk. If it all does crash, and you have the courage to stand where the metal hits the meat, then sign up. I’d be proud to stand beside anyone that takes the Oath and keeps it.

  • J C

    For Liberty, it’s a sad day in America. Flags should be turned upsede down and flown at half mast.

    • J C

      PS. It’s never been more important to support the God given right to self defense as described in the 2nd Amendment.

      • Joe H.

        JC,
        AMEN AND PASS THE AMMO!!!!

      • J C

        To defend against enemies foreign and domestic….

        • morgansjc

          Defense against a government usupation of civil liberty is not a right, it’s a duty.

          “Believe me, dear Sir: there is not in the British empire a man who more cordially loves a union with Great Britain than I do. But, by the God that made me, I will cease to exist before I yield to a connection on such terms as the British Parliament propose; and in this, I think I speak the sentiments of America.”

          —Thomas Jefferson, November 29, 1775

          There is no man that loves America more than I do. And, by the God that made me, I will cease to exist before I allow Barrack Hussein Obama to become dictator of this nation, allow foreign troops on our soil, or stand silently by while my Rights, Civil Liberties, and Heritage as a Citizen are stolen from me.
          -Timothy S. Morgan May 13, 2010

          If that makes a seditionist, then the Constitution is a seditious document. Since it is not, I am a Patriot, and the Gang of Three, Obama, Reid and Pelosi, are indeed seditionists, in violation of their Oaths of Office, and I demand the immediate resignation of all three. If they will not resign, then I call upon the House and Senate to start impeachement proceedings and show why these three people should remain in office while in direct violation of their Oaths.

          Are there any questions about where I stand, or any defensible arguments against what I’ve said? Come prepared to defend your position, because I’m certainly prepared to defend mine.

    • ray

      Where I am at. I have seen a couple upside down, no kidding.

    • tomteacher

      As the old saying goes…praise the Lord and pass the ammunition”!
      Keep your powder dry folks! You’ll need it!

  • http://www.personalliberty.com/news/pediatric-patients-with-chronic-pain-look-to-acupuncture-19609231/ James A Graham

    From: James Graham
    Date: 3/22/2010 12:16:59 AM
    To: undisclosed-recipients
    Subject: Proposed 28th Amendment to the United States Constitution

    As a retired military man that have given over twenty-seven years of my life to my country, I truly feel that what this
    Country needs most is a new amendment to the Constitution . I am recommending that we add the 28th amendment to the Constitution of the UNITED STATES.

    For too long we have been too complacent about the workings of Congress. Many citizens had no idea that Congress members could retire with the same pay after only one term, that they didn’t pay into Social Security, that they specifically exempted themselves from many of the laws they have passed (such as being exempt from any fear of prosecution for sexual harassment) while ordinary citizens must live under those laws. The latest is to exempt themselves from the Healthcare Reform that is being considered…in all of its forms. Somehow, that doesn’t seem logical. We do not have an elite that is above the law. I truly don’t care if they are Democrat, Republican, Independent or whatever. The self-serving must stop.

    This is a good way to do that. It is an idea whose time has come, Jim.

    Proposed 28th Amendment to the United States Constitution:

    “Congress shall make no law that applies to the citizens of the United States that does not apply equally to the Congressman, Senators and Representatives; and, Congress shall make no law that applies to the Congressman. Senators and Representatives that does not apply equally to the citizens of the United States”.

    This 28th amendment to the Constitution of the UNITED STATES Would apply to all passed, present and future
    congressman, Senators And Representatives.

    HTCM USN Retired James A. Graham E-Mail address is ( jagraham@charter.net ) Please forward !!!!!!!

    • James

      James Graham, that’s an excellent idea, there are even a few congressmen who would go along with that.

      • Don B.

        Pelosick as Speaker of the House would NEVER allow such an amendment on the floor for a vote….But, I would love to see such and add that their cost-of-living-allowance be increased by the same amount that Social Security and Veterans Disability is!!!!!!!!!!!

    • morgansjc

      Right on, James! And while we’re at it, let’s clarify the Second Amendment is such a way as to make it perfectly clear that a citizen’s right to keep and bear arms is unchallengable. While we are all well aware that it means exactly that, the courts and anti-gun Nazis use that comma as an excuse to challenge our right to bear arms. Let’s fix it all, get it straight, and knock off the nonsense!

  • Chiefatk

    It is my personal opinion that a illegal person has been elected as president. My question would be how and why? With this power he will eventually strip away as much of our rights as he can, including the rights granted under the Second Amendment. Who was the responsible person or persons that had the responsibility of ensuring OB’s eligibility???? Was it ignored because he was black or did someone just ASS U ME? Why do the governors not unite and insist on positive proof of his eligibility? Why does Congress not pursue this, they have the power. Last I heard, OB has spent more than a million dollars hiding such proof, why? Hell, I have to show my original birth certificate just to get a passport. With this band of criminals running the country, you can expect a more aggresive attack on the second amendment as well as all articles of the U.S. CONSTITUTION that do not agree with the left’s philosophy. Every elected official that does not fully protect the very constitution that they swore to uphold and protect, should be locked up and tried for treason. No man should be above the law! Beware America!

    • American liberal

      Chief…. The Presidents Birth certificate is posted online… So is his birth announcment from Hawaii… Pretty hard to forge that…

      • Sandra

        TO The Liberal Socialist Monkey that thinks he’s an American,

        That pathetic excuse for a b.c. that obama posts online wouldn’t get anybody a drivers license in most states. I can see that you were one to be sucked in by that farcical piece of paper. Try learning what the difference is between a “certificate of live birth” & a “birth certificate” before you randomly post your weasely drivel on here.

        • morgansjc

          You go, girl! There is definitely a difference between a ‘Birth Certificate’ and a “Certificate of Live Birth”. I know, I just went through it. Social Security would not accept my hospital birth certificate. I had to go to L.A. County, where I was born, stand in a very long line, and get a certified birth certicate, stamped, approved, and proven for Social Security to accept my claim.
          Unfortunately, a law that is in desperate need of changing makes a child born in the U.S. a citizen. Ask the thousand upon thousands of Mexican mothers that slip the border to have their child in the U.S. That does not relieve you of the ‘Live Birth’ as opposed to a ‘Birth Certificate’ for official and legal purposes.
          Excellently thought through, Sandy. You’ve pointed out a critical and legal difference between the two types of documents.

          • morgansjc

            I need to amend my statement. I said “law” where I should have said “generally assumed under the 14th Amendment.”. The Supreme Court has never made a definitive decision regarding the 14th Amendment and illegal aliens. Sorry for the mistake.

            From Wikipedia:

            Birth within the United States
            Main article: Birthright citizenship in the United States of America
            Main article: Jus soli
            The Supreme Court has never explicitly ruled on whether children born in the United States to illegal immigrant parents are entitled to birthright citizenship via the 14th Amendment,[5] although it has generally been assumed that they are.[6] A birth certificate issued by a U.S. state or territorial government is evidence of citizenship, and is usually accepted as proof of citizenship.

            In the case of United States v. Wong Kim Ark, 169 U.S. 649 (1898), the Supreme Court ruled that a person becomes a citizen of the United States at the time of birth, by virtue of the first clause of the 14th amendment of the Constitution, if that person is:

            Born in the United States
            Has parents that are subjects of a foreign power, but not in any diplomatic or official capacity of that foreign power
            Has parents that have permanent domicile and residence in the United States
            Has parents that are in the United States for business

      • morgansjc

        Gee, NOTHING on the Web is forged, untrue, Photoshopped, or altered. I saw it online, it must be true!
        Having said that, I don’t believe he’s not a citizen, and that he was born in Hawaii. In fact, two years after it became a state. He is not an American. Not raised in the culture, he doesn’t really understand us, or what he’s leading us to.
        We have a President with essentially no political experience, who has selected a Supreme Court nominee with no Judicial experience but has written articles against the military and advocating government censorship, including pamphlets and posters, and an administration comprised of persons with no business experience, a grand total of 5% as opposed to an average of 45% in previous administrations, and is marginalizing the Rights of American citizens just as fast as he can. He calls the Tea Party ‘teabaggers’ while demanding we respect each other. What? Say again? ‘Teabaggers’, Mr. President? Shame on you!
        Give the man his cowbell and put him out to pasture, along with the discredited, freedom sapping, Rights destroying liberalism that has sickened our nation and turned us into hyphenated-America.

    • American liberal

      Chief…. The Presidents Birth certificate is posted online… So is his birth announcment from Hawaii… Pretty hard to forge that… Look it up

      • Joe H.

        correction: certificate of live birth!! not the same!! up untill about twenty years ago, for Identification purposes these were issued to anybody that showed up with a newborn baby!!! How come none of the staff remember him? how come none of the so called neighbors remember him?? Why does his own grandmother say she remembers him being born in a foreign country??? why does the certificate of live birth look like it has been altered or had something erased from it? look just above the line that says this document not legal if altered!

  • WR

    SAD I’T COMMING THE REVOLUTION LOCK AND LOAD

  • jim

    it has become a sad time for our country/its time to throw all the/liers.theaves/out/welcome to slavery

    • WR

      We have the right to higher them but not to fire them. Only you and i get fiered on friday

  • SKIP BLANCHARD

    The tactics used to pass the recent Obama Care Bill is out of the playbook of Louisiana elections.
    Louisiana finally figured out that it needed to close the bars on Election Day because a shot of whiskey could buy a vote.
    This corruption even starts in grade school. I heard a tale of how the teacher asked the class to hold a class election. When the winner was asked how she got her class mates to vote for her she said “Ice Cream”. She just promised that if they voted for her she would buy them all free ice cream.
    Our President has no business sticking his nose into the business of the Legislative Branch. His blatant coercion of the swing vote Democrats should be a case for removal from office.

    • tomteacher

      Right on Skip…immediate removal!!

    • Joe H.

      Skip,
      i remember that didn’t Johngoodman play the part about one of their politicians ??? crooked as a snake. Dem if I remember right!!!

  • ray

    What will you do, they come to your door and say give up your firearms. WHat can you do at that moment. Nothing, it is already to late. Health care, it goes somethinglike this. Tax payers should not pay for your hobby injuries. Want to motocross? Then a 1,000.00 add on to you policy provided by the goverment, better yet lets stop motorcross, bad for the enviroment. It is anything that does not support the state they will want to stop. SO, excatly when is it time to act??

    • Bud

      What can we do when they come to our door and demand my Guns there will be a fight. My family are all dedicated to preserving our GOD given right to protection and would rather be morned than a slave to the Powers of socialism that have taken over this country. I wonder if we will be the only ” radical leftist” as I’m sure the papers will report. God knows I love this country and I did swear a Oath to uphold the constitution and protect from against all enemies, foreign and domestic…”.

      God be with us in this hour of need

  • http://nonya Jorge Getson

    Ladies/Gentlemen;

    I’d bet you anything I have that Mr. Obomanation is not even a legal citizen!
    The Terrorists are in the gate. The White House on down.
    Yes there is a war on Terrorists. The Mid East Leader is: Osama bin Laden.
    The leader of the North American Terrorists: Obama Been Lyin!
    Ms. Palian was on Fox News a couple nights stating that we need to fight this Government take over of, “EVERYTHING.”
    She stated that we should not use violence.
    I say the Leftist don’t understand anything else.
    I’m not able to get out of my chair and go to the front lines, but I would be one of the first if the war to put a fence around DC and all the way across the Southern border started today.
    Since I can’t I have invested heavily in providing hardware for those who are physically and mentally ready.
    The goods are stored in very hard to find locations.
    Security is high.
    I don’t know where the goods are. Those who will need them, “I’m afraid in the very near future” do.
    The layers of who knows where is not available to me. I was approached by a man/woman “who knows” that I could not see. I disclosed where the goods were and now there is a large hole on my property where the surplus container ship “container” used to be. I have no idea who came to get it I just know it is in the right hands.
    Why? Because I know these jerks will use torture to find where and I want to be impervious to them. Can’t tell what I don’t know!
    Via local talk I know others are doing and have done this also.

    Do you know how three men keep a secret?
    Two of them are dead!

    FYI. Violation of the oath of office by Congress et al is a crime of high treason. Time for a trial.
    As Obama Been Lyin is commander in chief he qualifies for a Military Tribunal when being tried.
    We all know the punishment.
    Bill Clinton deserves to be tried also for his involvement with the Lippo Group and our guidance systems.
    Heil Obama. Long live Hugo Hussain Obama.

    • morgansjc

      Ummm, don’t happen to have a few thousand rounds of extra .223 and .45 ACP available, do you? I promise it will be put to good use, since I’m heading straight to the Marine base, where I expect there to be an MLR if we ever get to the place where the metal hits the meat.

      I don’t know where everybody lives, but you may have heard of or experienced the series of house shaking blasts that occured in south Orange County, CA. I live close enough to Camp Pendleton that I can hear the 155s firing, but this was an order of magnitude beyond that. Turned out it was our beloved Marines, using some VERY large ordnance. One weapon that was air dropped weighed over 15,000 lbs. I figure that was the one that nearly blew the windows out. :-) Things were shaking 30 miles from the drop points. Yeah, baby! Definitely shows why my AR15 is in the ‘small arms’ category. :-)

  • Victor Barney

    Forget about it! It’s over! The Marxist (Anti-messiahs) have won! Just wait for your number to be given you! Do YOU think that it only is a “coincidence” that ALL immigrants coming to America since the Civil War have had “External Personality Traits(Looking for others to lead them)” and NOT “Internal Personality Traits(Looking only upon themselves to lead themselves),” as all those who founded this country had? I agree with the previous post: Now: they(Marxists) want “Heil Obama. Long live Hugo Hussain Obama!” However, Hell will soon follow for 3 1/2 years for all Internal Personality Traits remaining in America!

    • Jack

      I agree it is over. We are NOT a republic and have not been for a while. The Old America is Dead. The new is emerging. Personally I am old school. But tell me, What do we do?

      • Ken

        The best thing to do in any time of survival or crisis is to use the STOP principal. Sit, Think, Obseve, Plan

        • morgansjc

          Excellent point, Ken. STOP is right. A good mnemonic, like KISS. I used to teach rookies “Know where you are. You can’t call for backup if you can’t tell dispatch where you are. Know where your partner is. It’ll tick him off if you cap him. Don’t rush in, take a second to assess the situation. Don’t get tunnel vision. There’s still a world 360 degrees around you, and danger can come from any direction.”
          Unfortunately, I don’t know where I am in America any more, I don’t know where all my partners are, we’re rushing headlong into dangerous situations burdened with tunnel vision, and danger can still come at us from any direction. We are on scene at one of the most dangerous places you can be; a 415 Domestic, and we haven’t got it sorted out yet. Until we do, we need to be very aware, very alert, and be prepared for anything. I don’t have mnemonic for it, unfortunately. Wish I did.

    • morgansjc

      No it isn’t, Victor! Not even close! It won’t ever be over, if it gets, God forbid, to civil war in defense of our liberties. It won’t be over until the last armed, free American has shed the last drop of blood. Until then, know who your friends are, be ready to move, and if you trust your local military base, head for it. I’m heading straight to the Marine base. No way will the Marines fire on American citizens because of orders from Obama. Clinton’s Marines despised him. I totally trust our military to come down on the side of the citizens in the event of a Constitutional breach by the Feds that results in combat. There might be some boot licking Colonels that want to be Generals that go along, but 90% of the military is going to be with us. Especially if foreign troops are involved. If the post about the Russians is true, then the casualty rate is underestimated. It won’t be 80%. It will be 100%. Not one Russian, unless captured, is going back to Russia alive. We’ll give them a body count that will make Afghanistan look like they were at a tea party. You underestimate our determination to be free by far. Our forefathers taught us how to do it. Every tree, every rock, a fire pit. Not one foot of uncontested ground. Scorched earth behind us. The Russians own tactics during WWII. Do you think that the SEALS, Green Berets, Rangers, and every other spec op group isn’t going to be dropping advisors to us, help us get organized? I am proud proud proud of our military, and not for one second do I believe they will abandon us. I am so proud of our military, our National Colors, the loyal Americans on this and other sites, the States preparing to defend their citizens that it makes my eyes sting to write it down. No, Victor, it’s not over. It hasn’t even started.

  • WR

    It may be the only way they will understand Smith and Westeren
    Sorry Ms.Palian love what you stand for.It’s not a matter of violence it’s a matter of self defense. And we all do not need
    COMMIE OBSMA AND HIS COMRADS TO TAKE ALL AWAY FROM US
    GOD BLESS THE USA

  • http://MSN.COM Omega2

    The Democratic Party can now be labeled as the NEW DR’S OF DEATH. They are taking $500Billion away from the Medicare people and aloting it to the PLANNED PARENT HOOD for the KILLING of MORE UNBORN BABIES. The death PANELS are still in this bill as Gov. Palin stated. Can you believe Pelosie praying to GOD to have this ABORTION BILL PASSED!!! God does not like the KILLING of his children by PLANNED PARENT HOODS. AS JESUS said I AM ALPHA AND OMEGA, Pelosi, Reid, Stupik, and OBUMMMMMA have set themselves as GOD. BEWARE of the MIGHTY HAND OF PROVIDENCE. The Egyptians found that ought many years ago. Now it is PELOSI’S, REID, STUPIK and OBUMMMMAS turn to feel it.

  • Pat Swoope

    I am with you James Graham, we need the 28th Amendment and we all need to re-enforce the second amendment. It is my firm belief that we have an illegal in the White House signing everything he can into law. His brotherly love is being shared with Chevez. We need to all work to remove all the traitors in DC. If we do not take a firm stand NOW, it will soon be to late.

  • Paul

    It’s a sad state when a handful of people (Mr. O and the Pelosi) can coerse over 400 elected representatives into voting for something they don’t really believe in, and against constituents’ wishes. I believe they were bullied and bought. What gives a couple of people this kind of power? I think we all know the answer to this. It’s time to clean house. God help us (and I do mean that)!

    • Joe H.

      Paul,
      this is what happens when the politicians do so much shady stuff that the other side can blackmail them for their vote!!!

    • American liberal

      Their was this thing they have in a democracy called an election in 2008 … Obama won it…. He also ran on the healthcare agenda…. So it’s only a suprise to the rightwing nitwits in America that he would carry on with his election….with Bush you got a war aginst Iraq that’s gonna cost upwards to 2 trillion dollars….. Now it’s our turn.. Were giving the country healthcare instead of a war…. The war wasnof no benifit to America at all , especially since Iraq had nothing what so ever to do with 9/11…..so if you don’t like it that were insisting on healthcare that will benifit all of America, bring down the deficit , benifit small business, insure 32 million Americans without healthcare then that’s just to bad for you…got it?.. I’m keeping my guns, you keep yours…. These rightwings sites only purpose is to rile up you people that are on the dumb side of life….

      • ray

        I would agree Iraq should not have happened. IN reality neither should Afganistan. We sould have went after the people who did it and been done with it. But Goverment sponsered health care is nothing but an attempt to control you and I. No, you can’t have this hobby you may get hurt or hurt someone else and it is taxpayer money. You heard them, this is just the first step. I think we should split the country. I really do. Do that now and avoid the violence, it has become that bad. I don’t hat the goverment but the goverment wants to control. That is not how this country was designed. The intent was to limit goverment and leave it to the people. I have to admit with all sex, drugs, foul mouthed music we have created in addition to dependence on goveremnt istead of yourself we as a nation have created a lot of mean people and may require totalatarian goverment. Is that what you want the goverment to takecaare of you. My Mother was denied medication from medicare, the Doctors ordered it. Who helped the pharmicutial company thats who it was not the goverment.

        • Joe H.

          ray,
          the company didn’t deny her tha government did! why would the company deny her?? they don’t care who buys it as long as they get their money! to deny her would be akin to slitting their own throat. the government now may have deemed it too expensive! P-lousy’s booze bill is not too expensive but the meds to help your mother were!!! there’s your answer!

      • Charley41

        Oh please.. Sure the war was a screw up, and your lib. congress voted too. Why did they not stand up and say No we won’t go to war? Both parties are screwed up. Bush was all for a N.America Union. He and Cheney are part of One world People. Now Obama has really got us on fast track. The one world order is just a form of Communisim. Can’t you see that..

    • William Bradford

      Of course they were. And you’re surprised?

  • Robert (Bob) Lee

    I keep telling people (I have been saying this for about 7 years now) that the so-called “Democratic Party” is a socialist oriented big government party, and the so-called “Republican Party” is a fascist oriented big government party. When will people finally start to listen????????? All each of them want is: Power, Money, and Control.

    Please folks, stop funneling your money to the people that are trying to enslave you. Instead, support with money, time, and your vote for either or both of the Libertarian Party and/or the Constitution Party if you value your freedom.

    Stop listening to all the “LIberal” vs “Conservative” crap the political parties and the news media chatter about. The REAL ISSUE is Big Centralized All Controlling Government (BOTH MAJOR POLITICAL PARTIES) vs your Constitutionally promised individual freedom.

    “Government big enough to give you everything you want is also big enough to take it all away.” — paraphrasing Thomas Jefferson (Remember that guy that was one of the pests to the King of England over two hundred years ago????)

    Wake up people!!!!!! The Republican Party and the Democratic Party are in bed with one another whenever it servers THEIR interests!!!! Please, go to http://WWW.theAdvocates.org and take the quiz. You maybe surprised to find where your political views actually fall. I was!!!!!

    Please feel free to forward this to your friends.

  • http://myronjpoltroonian.blogspot.com Myron J. Poltroonian

    Regarding the United Nations Secretary General’s recent article in the Washington Times, a key phrase was missed by all: “Finally, I am urging progress in eliminating other weapons of mass destruction and limiting missiles, space weapons and conventional arms — all of which are needed for a nuclear-weapon-free world. [Note the hyphens.] Disarmament must anticipate emerging dangers from other weapons.” To the UN, “Conventional Arms” includes small arms. You know, Hand Guns, Rifles and Shotguns, such as those we the people posses here, as protected by our Constitution. You see, to the UN, small arms should only be in the hands of governments – like Somalia, North Korea, Nicaragua, Venezuela, Cuba and so many more of the dictatorships that run that “Cesspool in Manhattan” than one would care to remember, let alone count. In fact, there’s a woman in that cesspool whose entire “Raison d’être” is disarming the United States citizenry.
    I suggested shortly after 911 that we rebuild the Twin Towers taller and better than before, rename them the “New United Nations and World Trade Center” and restrict and limit the UN’s occupancy to just the top, oh say, dozen or so floors of that complex – so they’d have an unobstructed view of all incoming flights, of course. At the time I wanted Senator Jessie Helms to do it, but he took ill and never was able to take it up. More’s the pity.

    [Washington Times ]

  • http://myronjpoltroonian.blogspot.com Myron J. Poltroonian

    You want an idea of what we Tea Party’ers are angry about? Why we’ve taken a page, if you will, from the Berkley crowd of the ’60′s and refined it? Here is what we know is in store for us if we do not stand up for our principles. Principles like: Everyone coming to our country should obey the law; Government should be bound by the original intent of the constitution and not the usurpation of our unalienable rights which are reserved to the states or to the people. This November, we will see an assault on democracy and our democratic republic, unlike any we’ve seen in our lifetimes, or, perhaps, in the history of our “Noble Experiment”. Even before then, there will be an all out push to “legalize” what are actually upwards of 30 million Illegal Aliens. Plus their parents, grand parents, aunts, uncles and, of course, their children, just in time for the elections. During which, rules will be ignored, laws broken with impunity, and “Lazerus” will rise to vote again (and again, and … ). I can only pray this will not stand with the American people. That we, as a body, and with one voice, will finally say, loudly and clearly: “Enough! No More! Stand Up! Fight for America and Her Constitution! Take it to the courts! And, if they prove corrupt, ‘Take’n’ It To The Streets!’ “. Otherwise: “Not with a bang, but a whimper” will be our fate.

    • Joe H.

      Myron,
      I fully expect to see Hanoi Jane or her daughter out there parading down the street demonstrating against the TEA Party!!!!

      • Claire

        Hanoi Jane–she was disgusting. She did not give one thought towards our soldiers. She did not care how many of our soldiers were killed. All she could think of was her crummy “minutes of fame.” She was useless in the sixties, and she still is. I was against the war back then too, but our soldiers were there, and consequently I sure as hell supported our soldiers. Our soldiers came first. War is war and Americans must support their soldiers–always.

  • http://myronjpoltroonian.blogspot.com Myron J. Poltroonian

    Sorry to post three fairly long post’s (especially in a row), but I belong to the oldest civil rights group in the country, the NRA (Life Member). I do not purport to speak for them, only myself, but after years and years of watching our constitution being eviscerated, I can no longer stand silent. I must speak what is in my mind and heart regarding my almost 69 years of observation and experience. I’ve heard about something being called “The Oath Takers” that is being subscribed to by many rank and file solders and policemen across the country. Their “superiors, of course, are much more reticent to publicly take the oath. What it basically says is that the “Promiser” will not take part in any disarmament of the general population of America, nor any abridgment of their freedoms, including the right to freely move about the country and not be “rounded up” and be placed in FEMA “Security Camps”. If this is true, I have a warning for those who do not feel inclined to make the promise. 1. If you wonder what these reports are ginning up, go to the government’s Army Jobs page and look up “Internment/Resettlement Specialist”. I did. It upset me so much I sent the following to them: “I find this ad for “Internment/Resettlement Specialist” today? August 15th of 2009, 65 years to the day Emperor Hirohito conceded defeat, ending WW II? I’m an ex GI (06/’59 – 06/’62) living next door to an 88 year old WW II vet, a survivor of the “Battle of the Bulge”, and I find this? This is not the “My country, right or wrong, my country” I learned to love as a child, youth and adult. This is what I went into the service to, if necessary, sacrifice my life to protect us against. Shame on you. “I was just following orders” was not, is not, nor will it ever be a defense for crimes against your fellow countrymen. I call it treason. Plain and simple.” 2. Then: “Give me liberty, or give me death!” was enough. Now: “Give me liberty or I’ll give you death!”, should be closer to the truth. Then: “You can have my guns when you take them from my cold, dead fingers!” expressed an attitude I always considered defeatist. Now: “You may not take my guns from my cold, dead fingers. Rather, they will take my bullets from your cold, dead bodies!” is my version of an American Constitutionalist attitude. Now that’s an attitude Americans can live and survive as freemen with. As I have noted before: “It is coming”. Unless, of course, we’ve already crossed the Rubicon into defeatism. My advice? “Aim just below the blue helmet – no matter what color it is”.

    • marilyn

      For those of you who believe in prayer, just say “God Bless ___________” .

      I had a really bad time with a bureaucrat and remembered someone saying “Pray for your enemies, if you have to start through gritted teeth”. And I did. After about a year, I received “the peace that passes all understanding” , the bureaucrat died, and then I read that they can accept the blessing or reject it and destroy themselves.

      Whenever I feel upset, I pray for them.

  • American liberal

    You people are crazy… Nothing more nothing less….the tea baggers are nothing but ignorant racist fools…. Your only agenda is to ruin America… At least ruin what the republicans didn’t ruin while Bush was president….. We saw the way you treated the man with parkinsons disease at your ralley last week and yesterday we heard your racist vile remarks aimed towards congress…. Were gonna keep showing those news clips over and over and expose you as the vile ignorant scum you are…… Now have a nice day….

    • J C

      Drop Dead.

      • zack

        J C that’s to easy torture

    • http://www.NRA.com Stephaan

      A LIBERAL:

      As usual, another IGNORANT POST FROM YOU!
      I have chosen to leave the “American” off of your name from now on, and I wish that everyone else would also.
      You really don’t deserve to have the word “American” attached to your post name, since you so happily, and ignorantly, spit on the American people, and the Constitution every time you post here!

      You are just so pathetic that there is no way for people to even respond to your posts anymore.

      • American liberal

        Stephannie…. You can leave off whatever you want… Changes nothing….like I care… You rightwingers are still a dumb as rocks and anti American haters…

        • zack

          liberal do you know the difference between a rock and a stone?

        • JeffH

          American liberal, when you decide to come back, just remember the beating you got over your “I’m for the 2nd amendment rants”. You are the TRUE IDIOT here!

    • Claire

      American Liberal–You know, I am rather tired of you singing the praises of our current government. How in the name of God are people going to pay for their own insurance if they do not have jobs? And if they are unable to buy insurance, they get fined??? Supposedly this goes into effect in 4 years. How does our wonderful government KNOW there will be plenty of jobs by then? They don’t. They are screwing around with Medicare/Medicaid and want to pay doctors less for Medicaid services. This will cause even more doctors not to accept any patients on Medicare/Medicaid. The insurance companies are going to start going crazy raising the cost of premiums on their customers. And they probably will not accept any new clients. Then the next thing you know people will be unable to get insurance and if the do, the cost will be astronomical. This crap will backfire. Why don’t they work on the issue of illegals? That is the real issue. If they would have handled the illegals situation first, (and correctly) then perhaps there would be jobs, and we wouldn’t have to think about health reform. The taxpayers money wouldn’t be paying for the illegals health care and for the ones on welfare. I am amazed about your faith in the current government. But that is your problem. I voted for Obama and I must tell you that I am very disgusted. I could kick myself in the rear a hundred times for voting the way I did. I no longer have any faith, nor trust in this government. I remember his campaign speeches, no lobbyists, no this no that and look what happened! More of the same damn politics only this time it stinks worse.

      • zack

        Claire tell him, I’m so damn mad I can’t. He’s an idiotic moron buffoon

    • Claire

      American Liberal–Now you can call me a vile ignorant scum. And I must tell you that if you do, you may be quite surprised at my answer.

      • http://www.NRA.com Stephaan

        Claire;
        LOL, I can’t wait to see this. :-)

      • American liberal

        Read the CBO report…..the healthcare bill cut the deficit…. Helps small business…cuts Medicare fraud and waste…..but why ask me.. Read it…. It’s online …. Are you trying to tell me you voted for President Obama and you expected the mess he was left cleaned up and fixed in 1 years time?…. Your other choice was John McCain and Sarah Palin…McCain is incompetent and senile .. Sarah has Gone Hollywood and wants a million dollars an episode for a ” reality show”…even the people who ran McCains campaign said she’s crazy…. Am I thrilled with Obama?.. Nope.. But he was the best choice….. The republicans have no plan at all… None… The tea party is full of loons and nuts.. And they have no leader or plan either ..and I’ve sang no praises for Obama except that he was elected by the majority and he ran on healthcare….we cant treat peope in emergency rooms and the saving will insure people, the tax cuts on top 2% will be allowed to expire and well go back to the tax code we had during the 90′s…as far as you being tired of listening to me… I don’t care… The tea party party people are ignorant fools…I’ve never heard 1 plan from them….. So here’s your chance…. You tell me how the tea parry movement plans to create jobs, fight terrorism , insure those with no healthcare, pull out of Iraq, fight the war in Afghanistan, fix our infrastructure , stop Iran from obtaining nukes… And that’s just the tip of the iceberg that president Obsmas had to deal with…. On top of rightwing nutcases that insist he wasn’t born in Hawaii….so, tell me.. What’s the tea partys solution …. We already know the republicans want tax cuts for the rich and deregulation for lenders and banks.. The exact samethings that hot us here….look.., this countrys in desperate shape.. And these tea baggers honestly are nothing but kooks… O don’t care at all that your tired of hearing me… I’m tired of these rightwing goverment hateing fools..

        • Claire

          American Liberal–I notice you did not call me names. Thank you. Now I don’t have to get nasty. I believe the mess we are in was/is created by the politicans from both parties and has been going on for many, many decades. I have enough sense to realize it did not happen overnight. All these years were wasted because the politicians were not concerned for America and the American people. Sure, there were a few good bills that were passed, but dang few. They were in it for their own gain. Their greed, mismanagement, and the inability to make good judgment calls contributed towards this chaos we are in. The politicians have to keep their campaign donors happy. When they had the opportunity to solve some of these problems they did nothing. Now we are paying the piper as so to speak. Obama made too many promises that he should have known he could not keep. They all do. But I really do not trust him anymore. I do not approve of how the health reform was passed. I do not like the wheeling and dealing. I do not like the underhandedness that was used in order to gain votes. I want issues to be handled in an honest manner. The economy, jobs, and the illegals should have been taken care of first and foremost. This health reform was shoved through just to have something to crow about. Now they will all have to worry about being re-elected and I do not believe the majority of them will be re-elected. That is why some of the Democrats did not vote for it. They are thinking about election time. I believe in what is right and what is wrong. To me, there is no gray area. I believe in ethics, honesty, rationality, logic, character, and good old common sense. I am not seeing any of these attributes at this time. I will no longer vote Democrat nor will I vote for a Republican RINO. These past few years have done a number on me. I am to the point where I do not see our government to be honest and forthright.

          • ray

            Way to go Calir

        • ray

          CBO numbers are bogus. What about the Doctor bill fix that had to pushed on another bill to keep this health bill down. Besides done of this matters, 12,500,000,000,000.00 Yep MR LIB Bush helped but he did NOT tack on 1.5 trillion and NO! he did not have to. But he chose to help bail out the fat cats, he had a choice to stop it but did not. He is just like Bush he has done the same things More war, way more spending, more goverment. OPen your mind.

        • Joe H.

          a lib,
          sure it cuts the debt when you take the fifty billion owed to medicare and spend those dollars TWICE!!! they take the money put it temporarily in thebudget then when the CBO completes their report say it is for medicare. what a crock!!!

        • zack

          A$$hole liberal, Obama is the one that messed everything up. You need to smartin up before opening your trap

        • JeffH

          Wannabe American but just a stinkin’ liberal…here is a little info on the track record for the CBO…seems it isn’t good at all!
          Read it and weep hack!
          http://blog.heritage.org/2009/08/04/health-care-reform-cost-estimates-what-is-the-track-record/

    • William Bradford

      If you can read this, thank a teacher. Hopefully your writing skills will improve beyond the third grade sometime in future. A teacher.

      • Claire

        William Bradford– Who are you referring to?

        • Dylan

          Claire;
          Judging from his other posts, William Bradford is slamming the communist liberal. It just ended up below yours for some reason.

          • Claire

            Dylan–Okay. I can go along with that.

      • American liberal

        Lucy… You play nice with them if you want… I’m not speaking for Obama… I’m posting for myself…

        • Liberal Lucy

          Amer. Liberal,
          It’s not a matter of playing nice. It’s about playing smart, and the ignorant crap that you are posting reflects on all of us. It does not matter that you think you are posting for yourself, because every ignorant thing you post reflects on President Obama and the progressive movement. If you are going to continue on here, please try and post rationally, and intelligently. Thank you.

        • zack

          liberal you are the biggest IDIOT that is on this blog, you need a little attitude adjustment. like a few broken bones you moron

        • cr747

          American liberal,,
          First where did you get the name American?? Second I spent twenty two years fighting for our country as a fighter pilot..Biggest part of it in Vietnam..You come on here calling everyone names,,and running America down like the one’s running our country in Washington..If you can’t say anything good to these people on here,,and especially the one’s over there fighting to keep our country safe,,then you need to keep your mouth shut..

          It is people like you that ruin every thing this country has stood for by showing your ignorance,,and being disobedient to every one that cares for our country by running your mouth,,and not saying anything that shows you have any intelligence whatsoever,,or showing any respect for the real Commander And Chief,,”JESUS CHRIST OUR LORD AND SAVIOR,,”.. God Bless Your Soul!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

          • Joe H.

            cr747 good to see you back on this site guy hows things going?? how about you voulenteer to sue the gov for this travesty??? Man we need somebody That truly believes in what they’re doing!!!

          • cr747

            Joe H,,
            Things are fine with me,,thanks for asking..After last nights vote I am sick of how we as American people that are trying to make the US a better place to live,,”especially for our Kids and Grandkids,,”and we have what we elected to represent us treating us like we do not exist.. We have been lied to,,cheated,,seniors no cost of living increase,,and now going to be taxed to death with health care that the majority of American People do not want..Had it shoved down our throats by a president that is not an American citizen..Believe Me I am going to do everything in my POWER to help get this bill SHOVED up somebodies a$$..Please excuse my language but I am sick of what is taking place in Washington..I would love to have stuck that BIG GAVEL up Pelosi’s A$$..How rude,,and sickening she was packing that thing around,,and the way she came across with her illegitimate speech..

            The Constitution was abused,,and used as if it didn’t even exist..We have eleven states filing suit,,and possibly thirty-eight total states that will file a suit as soon as the president,,”if you can call him that,,”signs the bill..

            God Bless All Of You,,and God Bless America!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

            I thought I was going to throw up looking at her..

          • cr747

            Joe H,,
            Things are fine with me,,thanks for asking..After last nights vote I am sick of how we as American people that are trying to make the US a better place to live,,”especially for our Kids and Grandkids,,”and we have what we elected to represent us treating us like we do not exist.. We have been lied to,,cheated,,seniors no cost of living increase,,and now going to be taxed to death with health care that the majority of American People do not want..Had it shoved down our throats by a president that is not an American citizen..Believe Me I am going to do everything in my POWER to help get this bill SHOVED up somebodies a$$..Please excuse my language but I am sick of what is taking place in Washington..I would love to have stuck that BIG GAVEL up Pelosi’s A$$..How rude,,and sickening she was packing that thing around,,and the way she came across with her illegitimate speech..

            The Constitution was abused,,and used as if it didn’t even exist..We have eleven states filing suit,,and possibly thirty-eight total states that will file a suit as soon as the president,,”if you can call him that,,”signs the bill..

            God Bless All Of You,,and God Bless America!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

          • cr747

            Sorry for the double entry!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

        • zack

          liberal you and Obama are just alike. Both of you are the dumbest 2 I have ever seen

    • momof4

      Lib,
      Now that was not very nice. I thought you were the party of love and compassion. I am very disapointed in you. You need to have more peaceful loving thoughts all this hate is going to eat you up, take a chill pill and rest you little small mind.

    • zack

      American liberal sounds to me like you are signing your on death warrant a$$hole

    • ray

      Racists? What color am I or any one else on this site. You are nothing but an assumption of hate.

    • http://myronjpoltroonian.blogspot.com Myron J. Poltroonian

      My Dear “Alpha Hotel”, (If you don’t know what that stands for in the military, ask your mother. She’s the one that wears combat boots in your family. Right?) Any way, “My Dear Horatio”, The term of dis-endearment used by so many of the oh so tolerant progressives – “Tea bag, Tea baggers, Baggers, et al, is defined as: “An act of oral gratification performed on the male testicles”. How sweet of them to try and lump us in with Barney Frank. And they wonder why we seem just a tad less than civil towards them. I do wonder, what would Freud say? Eh? My little baguette?

  • http://personalliberty.com Vietvet

    Dear american liberal,
    Having fought to protect the right for you to spew your anti american venom in print form and otherwise in this country I love and you would like to see destroyed by other communist leftists called liberals, I will continue to fight to protect the only thing that separates me from becoming your slave, and you my master – THE 2ND AMMENTMENT!! The problem is – you’ve probably never read the Constitution of the United States, so I wouldn’t want to bore you with details. Hope that makes the rest of your day ~~

    • Joe H.

      Vietvet,
      class of 70-71 18 months. Red Knights 67n2F. Welcome home brother and EVERYTHING you have said is true!!! God Bless!!

      • http://personalliberty.com Vietvet

        Together we stand Joe!! Bless you too!

    • American liberal

      You’ve got that backwards….. The guy I voted for won the election… Got it…you didn’t fight for my freedom to do anything…don’t ever lay that crap on me like your owed something… One thing were all born with is the ability to make choices…

      • http://www.ccrkba.org Dartanian

        A. commie Liberal

        You’re the one who’s got it backwards you liberal commie m f er.
        You will be easy to find when the schit blank hits the fan. You will be the one hanging on to your communist leader O’Liars pantleg crying for help, but he will be pizzin on your head.

        Why don’t you get a political education, or at least read the COTUS before you try and post your crap on here. You are doing nothing but makeing yourself look ignorant with the BS that you post!!!!!!!!!!

      • William Bradford

        No, my illiterate friend, he purchased the election. (Or in his case “erection.”) Dear, well-meaning AmLib, get an education while it’s still free.

      • ray

        Yep, Lib thing, he won with lying, fraud and it continues today. As a nation we have pretty much turned from God and may just deserve this collapse. MR LIB Thing, you be here to we falls apart unles you are rich enough to get a bailout.

      • JC

        AntiAmerican Liberal, Could you possibly be any more ignorant or any lower?

        Folks, these “Liberals” are no longer even liberals, they are communist scum and must be eradicated, by whatever means necessary from these free United States.

      • JeffH

        Wanna be American and a stinkin’ liberal. Nobody owes you anything and most here never ask for anything. You see it’s all about taking responsibility for your actions. It is obvious that your liberal mind believes the poor and oppressed people are “owed” healthcare by everyone else. Oh, screw it, follow your Marxist leader down the path of no return. Someday your traitorous back will be against the brick wall with a black hood on begging for mercy as you pee and crap in your Dockers while someone reads to you these words: “for crimes against your country, I senta……” you faint from fear…

    • Claire

      Vietvet–Proud to meet you, Sir. And I thank you for your service to America.

      • http://personalliberty.com Vietvet

        Your regard is most welcome Young Lady. My family and I attend 2nd Ammendment events and Gun shows in the Atlanta GA area. See you there.

    • http://www.NRA.com Stephaan

      Vietvet:
      The sad part is, that the “Liberal Loser” is too ignorant to comprehend what you wrote here, and realize that it is the truth.
      He thinks that his right to spew his anti-American, socialist, communist hatred was given to him by Osama, Piglosi, and all the rest of the liberal socialists that came before them.

      Thanks for your service in R.V.N. Ironic isn’t it that the RVN war was against communism, now all of a sudden communism and socialism is a good thing.
      So many thanks for our tyrannical government wasting the 58,000 dead, MIAs’, and POWs’

  • Mark

    [offensive post removed]

  • American liberal

    Viet… You’ve got your tiny little head screwed on wrong… I probley own more guns than you ….you must be under some rightwing induced illusion that somebodys wants your guns…. Obama has put up NO BILL that aims to take your guns…. Your probley one of those simple minded fools that went out and bought a bunch of ammo because the ammunition makers and gun makers wanted to sell a load of weapons …so they started a rumor Obama was gonna take your guns… That rumor was aimed at the not very bright rightwingers ( you) and you fell for it.. Just like they wanted you too… I’m pro 2nd amendment and a liberal… You don’t have a clue what the constitution means..

    • William Bradford

      You’re also illiterate. In 21st Century America, that is pathetic. Poor baby–why not use some of your Obamabucks and go to night school?

      • American liberal

        Claire…. You aren’t capable of answer the question huh… I think I’ll survive being called a gnat….that’s it?..

        • Claire

          American Liberal–You want more? You are an [offensive word removed]. Now get off my back with your drivel.

    • Dylan

      To: A Communist Liberal;

      No anti-2nd amendment bills put forward by Osama Obama HUH?
      How about the “Blair Holt Firearms Act”, and “The Hillary Clinton United Nations Small Arms Treaty” for starters. There are at least 2 more that I don’t have the names or numbers to at the moment, but I’m sure if any of my compatriots on here have the numbers of the others, they will post them…IF they think you are worth their time and trouble.
      You sure are an ignorant [offensive word removed] stick! BTW, isn’t “American liberal” an oxymoron?

    • ray

      He may use health care to take the guns. The gun tax on the law abiding to pay for the law breakers health care, who will not pay because they will not do anything by the rules. Kinda like someone we all know in the white house. Look at how he works, He never does anything himself. Kinda like he was never trained how to work just talk.

    • http://personalliberty.com Vietvet

      No my blind counterpart – I – to your shame haven’t fallen into the categories you so woefully have embellished such as stockpiling etc. I really don’t think you have a clue as to the true boundaries of the Constitution or it’s real meaning and intent or how it was founded.
      “Obama has put up NO BILL that aims to take your guns” (your quote) but he has put the people in place to affect those measures – but need I bore you once again with details that are beyond your level of comprehension. (1+1=??)
      When I was growing up – we were taught about the communist manifesto and how it came to be. You parallel the ideals of a communist – not that I will resort to labeling you one – you have done that for yourself by promoting your ideologies and apparent association with like minded individuals. By the way – communist regimes and sects have guns too – so what’s that prove? Try again lib – your spelling may improve (dictionary.com)

    • JeffH

      WannaBe American but just a stinkin’ liberal…
      The only Pro 2nd anything you are is your second helping at the government trough. Obama never met an anti-gun bill he didn’t vote for…100% record…don’t be so quick to leave as there is a lot more where this came from. Hack!

  • Katie Drew

    Eighteen years ago I owned a 38 revolver, which I got for defense. It was taken from my home, without my knowledge, and used on me. I was shot with it three times, twice in the head. Do I still believe in the right to bear arms? Damn right I do!

    • Claire

      Katie Drew–I am sincerely happy you are o.k. And good for you for believing in the right to keep and bear arms.

    • Joe H.

      May God Bless you Katie Drew!!!!

    • http://myronjpoltroonian.blogspot.com Myron J. Poltroonian

      My Dear Ms. Drew, I too am glad you survived. I shall presume that if you currently own a firearm for self protection, you either have it on you, available immediately to hand (i.e.: night stand, pillow, desk drawer while you’re at it, or you keep it in a sturdily constructed combination safe.

  • Liberal Lucy

    Amer. Liberal;
    The posters on here are right. You are doing more harm than good to our progress, with your posts. Try and tone it down a bit. You are proving to be an ignorant person like they say.
    What do you think President Obama would say to you if he saw your posts?

    • JeffH

      Obama would be roaring with laughter at the way this idiot defends what is the obvious. Just follow the yellow brick road.

  • American liberal

    Claire… So if you for the mold of a tea baggers or rightwing goverment hater … Then you are a fool … That good enough for ya…I’m worried about any threats from you fools….

    • Claire

      American Liberal–So I’m a fool. I see that you think quite highly of yourself. Well, I think highly of myself. And if I am a fool, exactly what are you? I can tell you what you are–you are an egotistical idiot that needs to grow up and act like an educated adult, instead of a spoiled brat. You are like a gnat that continously buzzes around trying to be important and you are the one coming across like a “fool.” You are the one that is showing ignorance. So do not blame your inability to use common sense on anyone else. Your words speak for you. I would think by now you would realize that your mouth can be your worst enemy.

      • Dylan

        Claire;
        It’s not the ignorant liberals mouth that is his worst enemy.
        It’s the ignorance festering in his mind. He has no ammunition in there.

        • Claire

          Dylan–I should practice what I preach. My mouth was my worse enemy tonight.

          • Joe H.

            Claire,
            I didn’t see a thing you said that wasn’t deserved and more!!! you still hold your reputation as a lady as far as I’m concerned. Bless ya!!!

          • momof4

            Hi Claire,
            You are way too nice, A. Lib deserved everything he got,what a huge pain in the butt he or she is.

    • http://myronjpoltroonian.blogspot.com Myron J. Poltroonian

      (Just in case you come sneaking back to revel in your silly, stupid and infantile little game.) My Dear “Alpha Hotel”, (If you don’t know what that stands for in the military, ask your mother. She’s the one that wears combat boots in your family. Right?) Any way, “My Dear Horatio”, The term of dis-endearment used by so many of the oh so tolerant progressives – “Tea bag, Tea baggers, Baggers”, et al, is defined as: “An act of oral gratification performed on the male testicles”. How sweet of them to try and lump us in with Barney Frank. And they wonder why we seem just a tad less than civil towards them. I do wonder, what would Freud say? Eh? My little baguette?

      • zack

        Polcat, what size boots did yo momma wear? EH

    • JeffH

      WannaBe..stinkin liberal…I can’t pity you fool…is that the best you can do? Try to get a bad nites rest would ya ’cause there “are a lot more of us than there is of you”. HAH!

  • American liberal

    Most of you rightys have the IQ of a carrott…

    • Joe H.

      alib,
      which if true puts us about three digits higher than you!!!! an amoeba will find the cure for Cancer before they can measure you tiny infinitismal brain!!!!

    • JeffH

      Stinkin lib,
      I got your IQ in the middle of both my hands, kind of a double barrel IQ, if you will!

  • American liberal

    These rightwingers only agenda is to destroy the country even more….

    • Claire

      Yeah, and the Liberals have screwed up too. Liberals aren’t angels, you know.

    • JeffH

      yada yada yada yada!!!!

  • American liberal

    I’ve yet to hear what they have in the way of leadership… Who’s leading you nutcases?

    • Liberal Lucy

      Amer. Liberal,

      Apparently someone more intelligent than you are.
      For christ sakes, WOULD YOU PLEASE SHUT IT !!

    • momof4

      Lib,
      Why do you come to this site? you know it is a conservative site.
      We are venting here, we don’t want to listen to your foolishness.
      I am sure you Libs have you own little sites where you vent and get things off your chest with like minded people. That way you Libs can chat about all the rotten cards you have been delt or maybe you could talk about global warming or maybe some animal that needs saving
      or I know you can talk about how high your king Obama’s IQ is or how handsome he is or amazing it is that he won a Nobel Peace Prize for doing nothing at all, and you can all sit and talk about what great speeches he gives, and how you feel tingles going up and down your legs. Now doesn’t that sound better then coming to this site.

    • JeffH

      I’ll give you a hint: it isn’t a Marxist president!

      Now guess ya wannabe American but just a stinkin liberal!

  • American liberal

    Thats right Claire…. You’re a goverment hating anti American fool…. You rightys aren’t Americans… Your traitors…

    • Claire

      My comment to you is awaiting moderation.

    • JeffH

      Sticks and stones little lib!

  • American liberal

    Claire .just like I said.. You were unable to tell me what the tea partys plan is so you do what all you dummys do .. I’ve heard every insult you mental midgets could think up… Doesn’t bother me… But I’ll ask once more….what would you baggers had done diffrent as far as the stimulas bill.. The recovery act.. And healthcare…? .. We already know the republicans would just do the samethings that got us here… Tax cuts for the top 2 % and deregulation… That’s about as nice as I’m gonna get… Can you answer?… And who’s leading the tea party?….who’s trying to take your guns?… Their is no bill from Obama…?

    • Claire

      American Liberal_ So you still want to fight? Well, crawl up a Liberals butt and fight for air.

      • Joe H.

        claire,
        This is me laughing my a.. off!!!! You go Lady!!!

    • JeffH

      Claire, this wannabe American is nothing more than a stinkin liberal.
      He isn’t really worth the efforts we put in to put him down. Euthanasia would be to humane for the traitor. What goes around comes around, his day will come when the devil pulls his card. You think he’s in the hot seat now? NOT!

  • American liberal

    Lucy… Post something then… I’m not forcing you to read my post…. So far you’ve posted to me twice… If you have something of substance to say it…otherwise don’t worry about my post… And Lucy.. I don’t care wheather you approve of my post … Understand..I’m not here to please you and I’m not here to appease these goverment hating rightwingers….somebody needs to tell these people what they are….. Maybe you approve of the way they treated the man with parkinsons saturday…those tea baggers are thrash… And I’m gonna keep saying it and I don’t give one damn if you approve or not..understand?

    • Liberal Lucy

      Amer. Liberal,
      I WAS IN THE PROCESS OF POSTING SOMETHING. I was looking up a H.S. bulletin to post on here in answer to another poster, when I saw you start ranting and losing your cool on here, and I thought it more important to calm you down before you did us any more harm. Please just step back for a minute and calm down. Think about what you’re saying before you say it. People of ALL POLITICAL VIEWS are watching these blogs, and you are doing more harm than you think.

      I’m sorry I can’t think of any other way to say this, but in trying to disprove the conservatives, you are coming off as a raving lunatic, and we don’t want your actions reflecting on the progressive movement. PLEASE calm down and post intelligently from now on.
      Thank you.

      • Claire

        Liberal Lucy–I apologize to you and the others on this post with the exception of American Liberal. No excuses for bad behavior.

        • JeffH

          Claire, never apologise as it is considered a sign of weakness. Just take a closer read between the lines and I think you would understand what I’m saying here.

          • Claire

            Jeff H–I understand what you are saying. Trust me when I say I am not weak. Thanks for the info…next time I will not apologize. LOL

    • http://myronjpoltroonian.blogspot.com Myron J. Poltroonian

      (Just in case you come sneaking back to revel in your silly, stupid and infantile little game.) My Dear “Alpha Hotel”, (If you don’t know what that stands for in the military, ask your mother. She’s the one that wears combat boots in your family. Right?) Any way, “My Dear Horatio”, The term of dis-endearment used by so many of the oh so tolerant progressives – “Tea bag, Tea baggers, Baggers”, et al, is defined as: “An act of oral gratification performed on the male testicles”. How sweet of them to try and lump us in with Barney Frank. And they wonder why we seem just a tad less than civil towards them. I do wonder, what would Freud say? Eh? My little baguette? P.S.: Try “Spell Check”. It might make your remarks more palatable. Or, maybe not.

      • zack

        Polcat you getting yo gratification by posting the same thing a dozen times? EH

    • morgansjc

      This is from the man? that supports the new Supreme Court nominee Elena Kagan, supporter of censorship, but under the new, improved, PC name of “redistribution of speech”. I kid you not, check out her article.
      A. Liberal, (I can’t bear to use the term ‘American’ in relation to you), what part of “freedom good, loss of freedom bad” is confusing you? Liberals label freedom as the right to choose. What you mean is ‘the right to choose whatever we think you ought to be able to choose’.
      I have a rule for conduct online. I won’t say anything to anyone that I wouldn’t look them in the eye and say. You would not DARE to look me in the eye and call me the names you are using here. Like so many liberals, you’re probably too Metro or a whining little Emo thinking you’re entitled to a life. You’re entitled to nothing but what you earn, little man. From money to respect, you will get what you earn, not what you have your hand out for. Teach a man to fish, instead of giving him a fish, and you’ve lost a Democratic voter.
      If you ever get to San Juan Capistrano, CA, park on the corner of Del Obispo and Camino Capistrano. Put up a big sign that says “I’m A. Liberal looking for morgansjc”. I go past there all the time. Come prepared to discuss and defend what you have to say. Come prepared to discuss it civilly. I am pure Old School male, and if you call me a ‘bagger, idiot, fool, or stupid’, I will give you an immediate lesson in Old School civility. You won’t like it. You won’t like it at all. On the bright side, you will hobble away with a civics lesson you will never forget. Now, was that clear enough for a liberal to understand? Don’t call anyone a name or say anything about them that you wouldn’t look them in the eye and say. Very simple.

  • American liberal

    Claire..was that a bible verse?

    • Claire

      Nope. No bible verse, just the only kind of words a person like you can understand.

  • American liberal

    Barry… The cuts to Medicare are not cuts in service… It’s waste being cut

    • Joe H.

      And here folks we have the empty skull of a stupid liberal, thus the “empty” skull!! please watch your step and don’t track the BS around the site. Our next stop the echo chamber called a head of state………..

    • zack

      American liberal you keep on believing that the cuts in medicare are not cuts in service. Go to a new Doctor and try to use medicare, you’ll see, you blind fool

  • American liberal

    Ok… You can crawl back under your rocks… I’m outta here

    • Liberal Lucy

      Amer. Liberal
      GOOD RIDDANCE!! I hope I never cross paths with you again!!!
      ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

      Claire,
      No need to apologize to me. I didn’t see any examples of bad behavior from anyone except Amer. Liberal. My issue was with him, not any of you. I’m surprised all of you were able to cope with that moron without loosing your cool.

      He is the worst example of someone trying to ACT INTELLIGENT, that I have ever seen. I am just amazed that he thinks he is helping the progressive cause with his actions.

      If ever there was a good example of the need for someones mother to have had an abortion, it would be him lol (not like that comment is going to endear me to any of you) sorry, that’s just the way I see it.

      • Claire

        Liberal Lucy–I understand what you mean. LOL I feel that way every time my son-in-law calls me “Mom.” I want to scream Thank the good Lord, I’m not your Mother!!
        I made a couple of nasty posts myself. But geez, I got mad. I haven’t been that mad in ages. Thankfully I shut up.

      • Joe H.

        Lucy,
        I unfortunately am not as innocent as Clair, I have been posting insults to am lib as he well deserved!!! i have a problem, I usually give what I recieve. nice talking to ya!

    • http://myronjpoltroonian.blogspot.com Myron J. Poltroonian

      (Just in case you come sneaking back to revel in your silly, stupid and infantile little game.) My Dear “Alpha Hotel”, (If you don’t know what that stands for in the military, ask your mother. She’s the one that wears combat boots in your family. Right?) Any way, “My Dear Horatio”, The term of dis-endearment used by so many of the oh so tolerant progressives – “Tea bag, Tea baggers, Baggers”, et al, is defined as: “An act of oral gratification performed on the male testicles”. How sweet of them to try and lump us in with Barney Frank. And they wonder why we seem just a tad less than civil towards them. I do wonder, what would Freud say? Eh? My little baguette? P.S.: Try “Spell Check”. It might make your remarks more palatable. Or, maybe not. Oh, yes. As they say Down South: “See Ya!”. (And that from a Damn Yankee.)

      • zack

        Polcat do you know what it means? Guess yo momma BIG BOOTS told you what it was. Huh

    • morgansjc

      Brave A. Liberal ran away/bravely bravely ran away/when danger reared it’s ugly head he bravely turned his tail and fled/brave A. Liberal ran away

      Monty Python fans will recognize this. :-) Keep running, pup. You aren’t equipped to play with the big dogs yet. You write like Captain Kirk talked in Star Trek. Here, I’ll say it your way. You’re an…empty headed liberal…crawling …from the shallow end…of the gene pool. You…can’t think ahead…can’t reason…to a rational…conclusion. You…can’t see…the end result…of your actions. You are…too conflicted…to even join sentences.

      Now go away before we taunt you some more. Know why I can talk to you like this? Because I’ve told you exactly how to find me and talk to me face to face. Does he dare? Will our heroe’s testicles finally drop? Find out in next week’s installment of “A. Liberal, Boy Bigmouth”.

  • ray

    Man, I have not seen that much hate since the liberal that was writing on American Thinker.

    • Dylan

      Ray;
      I think it was more ignorance than hate.

      • Claire

        Dylan–I showed my ignorance I guess. Sorry.

        • Dylan

          Claire,
          I hope you don’t think I meant you were being ignoratn. Ray and I were talking about the commie liberal. Hate doesn’t take too much thought, but he (the commie liberal) doesn’t seem to be able to form any thoughts at all. You know….kind of like an ignorant moron

      • ray

        You may right but it is ugly anyway. Clair you are wonderfull. Stand tall.

        • Claire

          ray–I appreciate your support. However, I did act out of line. I harp about everyone else doing it, and then I turn around and do it myself. As I said, I should practice what I preach. I blew my top and there is no excuse.

          • Joe H.

            Claire,
            i think his biggest problem is deep down he knows we are right and Obummer did sell us out. he is having problems coping with the fact that he suppported someone that would do that. It may well be accompanied by a little imbibing!!!

  • http://myronjpoltroonian.blogspot.com Myron J. Poltroonian

    (Just in case you come sneaking back to revel in your silly, stupid and infantile little game.) My Dear “Alpha Hotel”, (If you don’t know what that stands for in the military, ask your mother. She’s the one that wears combat boots in your family. Right?) Any way, “My Dear Horatio”, The term of dis-endearment used by so many of the oh so tolerant progressives – “Tea bag, Tea baggers, Baggers”, et al, is defined as: “An act of oral gratification performed on the male testicles”. How sweet of them to try and lump us in with Barney Frank. And they wonder why we seem just a tad less than civil towards them. I do wonder, what would Freud say? Eh? My little baguette? P.S.: Try “Spell Check”. It might make your remarks more palatable. Or, maybe not. Oh, yes. As they say Down South: “See Ya!”. (And that from a Damn Yankee.)

    • zack

      sounds to me like a (Damn Idiot)

    • morgansjc

      Lol! Myron, we use the same thing over the radio, but in law enforcement it’s Adam Henry. Got ya right off, and you’re exactly right.

  • Barb

    Morning everyone,sorry I got in on this one so late! All of you did a nice job on A lib! Hopefully he wont be back but I know he will. Notice how we get new libs names on these sites but they seem to sound a lot like other libs out there? Me thinks there isn’t as many as they are trying to make it seem. By they way, I agree with all of you on the right side, keep your powder dry and your guns loaded my friends!

  • http://www.secondamendmentfoundation.com Dylan

    Barb,
    This commie socialist lib that was here yesterday reminds me of a little weasel that I saw on another blog that Joe H. and I were on a little over a year ago, both in writing style, and personality.
    He posts a little bit in a rational tone, then when we call him on his facts, all of a sudden he just loses all control and goes ballistic and turns totally ignorant like a little kid. We used to beat him to a bloody pulp, and he would go away for a few days, but always came back hurling more insults and always parroting whatever was being spread in the LSM. We found the best results from just ignoring him. He got bored when he didn’t have our full attention.
    Their sole purpose is just to disrupt the conservative blogs, and waste our time answering to them, instead of spending our time posting pertinent information.

    Joe H.
    What do you think? Does this commie liberal fool remind you of “the Daniel”?? I’m pretty sure it’s him, or else all liberals have the EXACT SAME personality LOL. What do you say we just ignore him?

  • http://www.NRA.com Stephaan

    Whoever the ignorant moron was that shot the round through the congressmans window to protest the Obama care bill, YOU ARE — STUPID! You are only hurting us and the 2nd amendment. When you do stupid sh*t like that you only give HCI and the “Brady Bunch” more ammunition to use against us.

    IF YOU CAN’T CONTROL YOURSELF, THEN USE A ROCK OR A BRICK, YOU IGNORANT FOOL!!

  • ted

    I lived in Kalispell, MT durring all the campaigning in 2008 and when Obama came to the college down in Missoula (Berkley of the Rockies) the students just went nuts as they did in colleges all over the country. When the Republicans (RINO’s)had the power they did nothing to straighten things out so this guy promisses change and they go for it. The RINO’s gave us this guy.

  • Dylan

    Ted;
    The conservatives split votes going to 3rd party candidates are what gave us this guy. If the “conservative” 3rd party vote wasters don’t wise up, or if the liberal socialists manage to pass amnesty for all the ILLEGAL ALIENS we will be screwed again in 2012, and probably forever!!

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