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The Scariest Picture You’ll Ever See

June 25, 2010 by  

Take a good long look at the map below. Pay special attention to the areas that are in blue. Compare them, in size and location, to the areas that are in red. Then let me tell you why the numbers (and the colors) are so significant.

2008 elections results by county

What you’re looking at is a map of the 2008 Presidential election, broken down by the results in each county. If Barack Obama received most of the votes in a particular county, it appears in blue. If John McCain was the winner, that county is in red.

If you added up the land mass of every blue and red county you’d see something really striking—the Republicans won 80 percent of this country, when measured by acreage. John McCain got a majority of votes in 2,417,000 square miles of the United States. Barack Obama, by comparison, won in just 580,000 square miles.

Ah, but now let’s look at the population numbers for each county. McCain still came out ahead, but not by much. The total population of counties won by Republicans was 143 million, while the population of counties won by Democrats was 127 million.

Basically, the Democrats swept the populations centers—the cities and more populated suburban areas—while the Republicans won everything else.

Now, guess what you would find if you could then overlay this map with one showing the distribution of food stamps, unemployment checks, subsidized housing and other welfare payments? Sure, there will be some in all of those red areas. There are plenty of Republicans receiving Social Security and Medicare. I’m sure there are even some Republican farmers who get paid not to grow crops. And there are certainly some Republican businessmen getting subsidies from Uncle Sam.

But the overwhelming majority of voters in the red areas pay more into government than they receive; while just the opposite is true in the blue areas. The majority of people there receive more in government benefits than they pay in taxes. In fact, 45 percent of adults in America pay no income taxes at all. Not one red penny. Zero. Nada. Zilch.

Can you guess where most of those people live? And which party they vote for? While you ponder the significance of these statistics let me repeat a quotation I used in last week’s column when I was discussing the differences between a republic and a democracy:

“A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most benefits from the public treasury, with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy, and is always followed by a dictatorship.”

The statement does not come from one of our Founding Fathers (although I’m sure that, to a man, they would agree with its warning). No, it was written long after our revolution, by a Scottish historian named Alexander Fraser Tytler. By the way, he wasn’t predicting the collapse of our republic; he was talking about what happened to the Athenian democracy 2,000 years ago.

Back to that map that’s bothered me so much. In most of the country the numbers are so close that an election can go either way, depending on which side is the most motivated. If the Democrats and their union allies and community organizers do a better job of getting out the vote, they win.

If the Republicans are inspired and enthusiastic enough about their candidate that they become almost evangelical in getting their friends and neighbors to vote, they carry the day. (This is especially true if they can appeal to enough independents to put the good of the country ahead of their own desire for some of that government booty.)

Now, let me ask you another question. How do you think this very delicate balance will change if several million illegal aliens are allowed to vote in our elections? May I see a show of hands of everyone who thinks the Republicans will get a majority of those votes? Anyone? Anyone?

I think you can guess where I’m going with this. For a lot of reasons we’ve discussed before, the Democrats not only won the White House two years ago, they also won a super-majority in Congress. Until Scott Brown won the Senate seat in Massachusetts last year the Republicans didn’t even have the manpower to mount a filibuster.

If you went by the numbers alone you’d have to conclude that the Democrats could pass anything they wanted. And yet look at all the trouble they’ve had getting their legislative program adopted. Yes, by using enough bribes, bluster and baloney they finally got Obamacare approved. But just by the skin of their teeth. Almost everything else they’ve wanted and Obama has promised is dead in the water. Cap and trade? Card check for unions? Unemployment payments forever? Fuggedaboutit. They just won’t happen. Not unless a lot more Democrats become a lot more suicidal.

Remember, the vast majority of people in Congress aren’t dedicated liberals or dedicated conservatives. The only thing they’re dedicated to is staying in office. They love the power and perks that come with being a member of the House of Representatives and the U.S. Senate. Where else would you get to spend billions of dollars of other people’s money—and usually be thanked for it?

Remember, when you rob Peter to pay Paul you can count on getting the thanks of Paul. And his vote, too.

So what can we do about it? To paraphrase a comment I received from an alert reader a few weeks ago, we have three boxes we can use.

The first is the soap box. By and large, we’re doing a good job telling ourselves what’s wrong. But we’re not doing as well telling others.

If the fate of this republic depended on it, over the next four months, could you get one other person to share your concerns and vote accordingly? Believe it or not, that’s all it would take. Conservatives would win enough seats in the House to bring Obama’s socialistic schemes to a screeching halt. (And a lot of members who used to rubber-stamp every liberal boondoggle would begin to sound like Sarah Palin.)

That brings me to the second box we need to use—the ballot box. If just 10 percent of the people who voted right last time got one more person to vote with them, the politicians who promise to help take back our country would win in a landslide.

Listen, we have all the resources we need to turn things around. No matter how much some on the left might like to, government can’t shut us up or shut us down. We have all of the time, the talent and the funds we need. Let’s use them while we still can.

If we don’t, the day may come when the only avenue left to defeat total government is the third box. It’s the one that won our liberty the first time. I’m talking about the ammo box. Pray God we won’t have to use it again.

Until next time, keep some powder dry.

—Chip Wood

Chip Wood

is the geopolitical editor of PersonalLiberty.com. He is the founder of Soundview Publications, in Atlanta, where he was also the host of an award-winning radio talk show for many years. He was the publisher of several bestselling books, including Crisis Investing by Doug Casey, None Dare Call It Conspiracy by Gary Allen and Larry Abraham and The War on Gold by Anthony Sutton. Chip is well known on the investment conference circuit where he has served as Master of Ceremonies for FreedomFest, The New Orleans Investment Conference, Sovereign Society, and The Atlanta Investment Conference.

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  • Jay

    This just proves it. It doesn’t matter who gets the votes. It’s who they want in power.

    • Linda

      This whole article is lop-sided. I did not see the Republications complaining when George Bush got into the White House in the election in 2000 even though Al Gore got lots more votes. In my option, the people who support the states with the red votes, manipulate statistics to find something to complain about in almost every situation. They are in truth, the Party of Opposition.

      • Conservative at Birth

        Linda, sadly you are mistaken. Republicans have offerd alternative ideas to solve all of the problems we face today. If you did not understand the article, perhaps you need a tutor to help you with your reading comprehension.

        • eddie47d

          It’s the Republicans who created much of the turmoil we face today with the largness they gave to corporations. So where are their solutions to healing this nation? Just screaming lower taxes,socialism,birth certificate and alot of other nonsense doen’t create jobs or get this country moving.

          • Victoryin10

            Who do you think provides the jobs, THE BIG CORPORATIONS, you idiot. It is the “idiots” who receive all the give-a-ways, and VOTE that got us into this mess. Drop dead you stupid idiot or get educated.

          • http://N/A peter

            taking it all in. fantastic discussion!

          • JC

            There is another interesting map here.
            California is on the verge of complete failure and a few states
            aren’t all that far behind.

            http://www.theglobeandmail.com/report-on-business/economy/california-on-verge-of-system-failure/article1609891/

          • angel-wanna-be

            Eddie47d, wake up Buddy, none of us ever worked for poor men!!!

          • meteorlady

            Tanks Viktor! Nice piece. Too bad they won’t understand or don’t want to understand what you said.

        • Dave

          You have to be kidding ConservativeatBirth. This article is downright ridiculous. Those Red states get plenty of tax dollars. Chip is just rabble rousing the flock again. Those red states are also the least educated ones. How is he claiming that the more people voted for McCain? Doesn’t it makes sense that population centers have more welfare recipients. They have more people per square mile. How many of those red states have factories that build military equipment or military bases that support their local economy? How many do have farm subsidies? Many of those people voted Republican on social issues and most of those are related to religion. Some of those people are also racist and voted for McCain because he wasn’t black. Those are also places where people voted Republican because their daddy did and his daddy did and they don’t know what they’re voting for.

          • Ricky

            NOT ALL VOTED THAT WAY ..I DID NOT .IVOTED FOR THE ONE BEST TO TAKE CONTOAL OVER THE MATERS OF THE UNITED STATES ..APERAINTY THE ONES THAT DID VOTE FOR HIM IS NOW IN REMORST …THAY PROBLEY LOST THEIR JOB .AND HOUSE AND NO TELLING WHAT ELESE ….ALL PEOPLE DONT JUDGE OTHERS BY THE WAYS YOU DO …

          • Chuckray

            We don’t know what we’re voting for? You vote for Ivy League elites. You vote for over 4 trillion dollars in home loans to people who can’t make payments. You vote to permanently enslave minorities – but hey that’s ok – they’ll always vote for progressives, right? Red state people and Tea Party people have the demographics of very well educated people. Get off the Kool-aid dunce. These are the things we vote against. “The truth shall set you free.” We are forever, “Not Racist, Not Violent, but No Longer Silent.”

          • Patsy in Tennessee

            I assume that the blacks did not vote for Obama ONLY because he is black. The figures I have heard are that they voted 93% to 97% FOR Obama. But, of course they weren’t being racist!!!

          • Angela

            I BEG YOU PARDON!! THOSE RED STATES ARE THE LEAST EDUCATED???? COME ON? SURELY YOU CAN COME UP WITH SOMETHING NICER THAN THAT TO SAY.I HAPPEN TO BE FROM A RED STATE,AND WOULD NEVER PUT A BLUE STATE DOWN LIKE THAT..WE ARE ALL THE SAME IN GOD’S EYE’S.

          • Jana

            Angela,
            If you are responding to Chuckray, I think you misread him. He is not saying people from red states are least educated. He is on our side sweetie.

          • DaveH

            She’s talking about Dave. The guy who she commented under. The ignorant Liberal who confuses lusting after other peoples’ money as intelligence. No Dave, it isn’t intelligence, it is just lack of morality.

          • DaveH

            Dave says “How is he claiming that the more people voted for McCain?”
            Chip said “The total population of counties won by Republicans was 143 million, while the population of counties won by Democrats was 127 million.”.
            My question to Dave “Can you read, oh Educated One?”. If you dispute Chip’s figures, show us the proof.

          • Allan

            Earth to Dave: Most of us voted for McCain because he was not as liberal as Obama. Now, pay very close attention: We would have voted for a black candidate if he or she were more conservative than McCain. It would have been strategically very smart as well as the right thing to do. Do you get it? Just a little bit?

          • Allan

            My previous post was to Dave, NOT Dave H.

          • Allan

            My post was for Dave, NOT Dave H.

          • http://PLD Tommy

            you’ve got to be kidding me more people just voted for obumer because he was black. Most young people just voted for him to make history and most of you democrat liberals will vote for bullwinkel the moose if he is from your party.

          • Viktor Leben

            I have to disagree with you. “Chip” is not “rabble-rousing”. Like a typical ultra-conservative, he has understated the problem. A very good article “Chip” ! Allow me to scare the HELL out of these readers …..

            This countries land mass is dominated by conservatives, if their was a civil war (a trial by combat, of sorts !) they would obviously win ……

            Big Government Socialism cannot be supported anymore — why ? The machines of our industrial base have been shut down on a massive scale. Without industrial machinery we regress back to an agrarian capitalist society. That means the voters in the blue sections (who are more reliant on government handouts) cannot be supported anymore. The Red (conservatives) in the rural areas win again … this is a war of attrition …….

            An Agrarian based capitalist system CANNOT produce as much wealth as an Industrial based capitalist system. QED – Their will be no money for welfare — the blues will riot then die off from starvation …..

            Furthermore, You cannot have an industrial economic recovery when ENERGY PRICES are high…. The blue energy policies have doomed them to starvation …….. If their is NO cheap source of energy, Technological and Industrial progress disappear…..

            If Energy prices are to high for the farmer, He/She are limited to how much they can produce by physical labor. In other words, Joe Farmer can’t buy Gas for his tractor, the blue counties are going to starve. Joe Farmer is going to take care of his family first …..

            Chip isn’t a rabble rouser, he is being very polite in his article…….

            Those are the facts, JACK !

          • Bev Leck

            Hooray for Viktor.

          • meteorlady

            Really? Texas only gets about 82% of what we pay into the federal government.

          • Give me a Break!

            I have never been so insulted by another person in my life! Give me a Break, Dave! What kind of bull shiz is this. The people in the red areas voted because daddy voted that way, or people there aren’t very educated, or people in those areas voted for McCain because their prejudice against blacks. Its people like you that keep racism alive, and people like you that stoop to name calling and insults to try and get your point across that has no substance at all. Chip is absolutely correct, the only reason Obama won was the heavily populated areas in the cities, which by the way rely on us who work and pay our taxes, to get their hand outs, so don’t give me this crap that the red areas don’t support this country. If it wasn’t for us, you Liberal laggers wouldn’t have entitlements that are undeserved.

          • Paul

            Wow Dave- you are a complete idiot! You said that the red states are the least educated ones? OK then- tell me which states are not a red majority? Wisconsin, Vermont, Connecticut, Maine, New Hampshire, Iowa, New Mexico, Delaware and New Jersey is what I can see from this map. So you are saying that ALL the other states are less educated? LOL! I love that liberal argument. If you don’t vote the same way that I do, I am smarter than you. Do you know what that does Dave my man, it shows that you are actually the intellectual minority. But it is indeed fun to watch Liberals do that. It makes it so much easier to show people that Conservatives truly are the more sensible people.

          • thinking about

            I thought in the USA elections was by the people rather than the number of counties or parishes. If you look at a population map you will also note where the population resides. A little further checking and you will also note several big cities has a larger population than some of the states. Now this is the facts, elections by the people.

          • http://PersonalLibertyDigest Randy

            The article is right on, very very true. What most people don’t understand, especially the ‘Democrats’, is that government over-regulation and unionism coercion has driven the rich with their businesses and factories overseas where they have cheaper labor, less regulation, and less taxes, so what they produce can be competitive with the rest of the worlds industry. So now you can say good bye to the jobs and tax base permanently, for those rich don’t have to pay taxes on their profit from overseas either, a double whammy for the tax base. Unless you can correct the problems mentioned above, you won’t be able to entice them back to the U.S., especially when Obama promises to raise taxes on the rich only, to support his massive ‘Health Care Law’ and other social programs he is trying to get passed to buy the vote of greedy people who think they can get something for free. Most people are to dumd to realize that all the tariffs (to protect the Unions) and the ‘Cap and Trade Law’, with its massive tax increase on all carbon based energy (which is 90% of the energy used in the U.S.) coming down the pyke, is actually increased taxes on the poor by raising the of cost on tires, gasoline and clothing that the rich can easily afford, but not so with the poor and middle class. Who do you think consumes the most of these things that are increasing in cost because of the governments actions, not the rich.

          • DON HARRELL 76 YRS OLD

            EVERY AMERICAN SHOULD PONDER THIS!

            I APPRECIATE ALL THE RESPONSES WITH ALL THE DIFFERENT OPINIONS AND THE

            NECESCITY FOR OUR GOVERNMENT CHANGES. HOWEVER, ALL OF THEM ARE NOT

            THE IMPORTANT ISSUE WHICH IS: WE ARE AT THE CROSS ROADS OUR GOVERNMENT

            HOLDING HANDS WITH THE OTHER NATIONS THAT ARE TAKING US TO A WORLD

            GOVERNMENT THAT WILL PUT EVERY ONE IN THE WORLD UNDER ONE UMBRELLA.

            A SOCIALISTIC GOVERNMENT

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            WE MAY NOT HAVE VERY MUCH LEFT, GOD BLESS AMERICA”

          • Rennie

            What is missed in one person’s reply, about how the “red” areas with agrarian capitalism would outlast “blue” industrial statism, is that Stalin got around this by eliminating the capitalists, rural or urban, and redistributing resources based on loyalty, what welfare does in watered down version in otherwords, instead of tax dollars, they will be diverting food, water (flood the valleys), energy (hydropower, flood out the rednecks TVA style) resouces maybe even land (ruralification of the urban poor, not housing for native rural poor, they are being replaced with foreign migrant laborers). I’m not saying it was a success in Russia, but they were able to do it. If the truth about the famine in potato blight in the British Isles in the first half the 19th century is carefully studied, it was their taxation and government policies that made families depend on potatoes to live. Right now people are not just turning lawns into vegetable gardens, they are fencing in the frontyards and raising calves, I find that very telling of rural America’s true condition. To protect the food supply and help rural America, allow anyone to do temporary crop work, whether on disability, unemployment, welfare, deadbeat dads, etc. and pocket the money, my bet is it would draw them back into the workforce and give them references. Food could be the next manufactured crisis and nationalization target.

          • Ron Johnson

            Dave; brillant and simple is your reply. The KISS analogy will still fly over the heads of a many Obama supporters but a number may have their eyes opened somewhat and they shall weap at their folley and vote with us in the fall

          • http://www.buffhide.com REG DAHL

            Questions to elitist Americans:
            WHO FED YOU TODAY?
            WHO FOUGHT FOR YOUR FREEDOM?
            WHAT HAVE YOU PRODUCED TODAY?

            TRUTH IS SELF EVIDENT

          • Dan Burke

            I loved seeing this comment in the newsletter. There is only one problem. See, the blue when they run low on food will round up and shoot the red farmers and put blue people in their place. Of course, the blue people will be supported by government to do everything and are not used to government forcing them to be productive and they will likely be rounded up and shot when they either don’t work hard enough or resist working…. Hmm, I think this has been done before. Oh yeah, I thought I read somewhere, someone claimed that the USSR once rounded up the farmers and shot them because they were capitalists and the capitalist, land owners were supposed to be evil. Then when they had troubles with the people they gave the land to for the purpose of farming for the “greater good” of society, well, they shot them too. At least, that is what I read someone claiming to have happened. So, we should see that here?

            Resorting back to your example, in the end, the reds still win even with the scenario above. Why? Because after the blues are done killing each other off, it is the reds who have the work ethics to provide for their families. And since the blues typically strip money from the reds to support the blues, you have to figure that the reds on average work hard enough to provide for themselves and some.

        • Steve

          When conservatives try to communicate with liberals, we conservatives must understand that we are trying to talk to educated idiots.

          • DaveH

            The best that public schools can produce.

          • Norm

            Steve
            Ignorance is bliss. Neocons love to hide their heads up their up their as-es. It’s easy to live in fantasyland when one hides facts.

        • http://libertyalert walter kuhns

          that was a good one. maybe someone could teach that person to read and comprehend what was read.

      • KNPatriot

        So Linda, if Gore got more votes than Bush did, why did he give up and give in? He did not get more votes, read up before you make claims that are not true. Gore tried every trick in the book to add votes more than once, not allow the military votes, disqualify counties and on and on. You liberals cry foul when your ACORN tactics don’t work. Oh yea, it was Bush’s fault.

        • truesoy

          Simply because the U.S. Supreme Court appointed Bush. Case closed.

          • das aardvark

            The typical mantra of a one-track minded Jackass (spell that L-i-b-e-r-a-l- D-a-m-n-f-o-o-l) The Supreme Court deals in legal fact, not Liberal fantasy.

          • American Citizen

            All the Supreme Court did was tell the Florida Dems they had to abide by the election laws.

          • American Citizen

            Plus the media called Florida for Gore before the Panhandle votes were in. They put Bush over the top and all the recounts proved that Bush won.

        • eddie47d

          Gore did get the majority vote so get over yourself

          • Bill J

            Bush got the votes that counted, the electoral college votes. so YOU get over youself!

          • Johnny

            If you will actually bother to check the facts, you’ll see that the final recount put Bush ahead by 500 votes total for the state of Florida.

          • Paul

            LOL Eddie- classic liberal. IF you tell yourself something enough times, it must be true; even if its obviously false. That is ultimately what liberalism is built upon. Its the old “pay no attention to the man behind the curtain” theory. If you tell people something enough you just hope they start to believe it. But liberals know that they are wrong on so many issues, so they just continually tell themselves that they are right (IE that Al Gore DID get more votes) so they can really believe that others are wrong. Its funny to watch; albeit entertaining!!!

        • Dave

          Where do you get your facts. Bush’s brother kept voters out of the polls who would have voted for Gore. Even with that Gore won more votes. Gore also won the popular vote. Get an education before you tell others to. You must have been educated in Texas.

          • Steve

            Bush won the Electoral College vote not the “popular” vote…..

          • Patsy in Tennessee

            If the liberals in the media had not broadcast that Gore won in Florida BEFORE the polls closed there, the conservatives who turned around and went home without voting would have been counted.

          • Jim H.

            Dave, You talk about facts and then say Jeb Bush kept the Gore voters out of the polling place. ( like it’s a fact) PROVE IT. Don’t just make false accusations. How would someone know who is going to vote a certain way, so you know who not to let in and who to let in? Where do you get your facts?

          • Jana

            Jim H,
            Maybe he thinks he is psychic. Sounds like he is psych(ot)ic.

          • DaveH

            Jeb probably keep the felons and dead people from voting. Shame on him.

          • Kinetic1

            Patsy,
            When you say “early” you do realize they called for Gore just 10 minutes before the polls closed. It’s a fair bet that most anyone who was going to vote in those last minutes were already at the polls and unlikely to be listening to the news.

            This was a major part of the protest from the Gore campaign. The results were in direct opposition to the exit polls, suggesting the possibility of election tampering. Given that Florida’s secretary of State, Katherine Harris was the state’s head of the Bush campaign, the thought was not much of a stretch. Let us not forget how she illegally purged 90,000 voters, mostly Democrats based on a “felon list” that erroneously listed people who shared names or past addresses with actual felons.

          • Allan

            How does education determine what Acorn and Democratic lawyers perpetrated in Florida?

          • TIME

            Patsy, I think you should have noted the people in Floridia that work got home, then went out to vote.

            Where as the Illegals and the We’ll get our Fair Share gang who stay at home all day voted early.

          • Hugh Jordan

            Bush won by the Supreme Court overstepping its power and giving the the election to THEIR candidate. Some consider the court’s actions unconstitutional;

          • meteorlady

            I attended college in Texas and graduated with a Masters. Am I to assume that I’m stupid? WOW really wish someone would have told me that and I would have attended Harvard…..

          • who are you kidding

            Dave, I was educated in Texas and I’m a rocket scientist. What do YOU do??? Stop encouraging ridiculous stereotypes. You only make yourself look dumb.

          • Paul

            Dave- I would hardly confront people on being uneducated when you type up a paragraph with as many errors in it as you just did. LOL! First of all, your very first sentence is punctuated incorrectly. “Where do you get your facts” should have a question mark after it; not a period. Second, do you think that Jeb Bush cloned himself and put himself and his clones outside of all the polling places and asked people who they were voting for and then if someone answered Gore, he kicked them out? Thats moronic! Your third sentence where you say “even with that Gore won more votes” is simply incorrect. He did NOT win more votes. (again with the liberalism, just keep telling yourself that you are right and you must be) Fourth sentence, no he didn’t win the popular vote. Good grief! And then not to out do yourself, you got the 5th and the very last sentence in your paragraph wrong too. Nobody told you to get an education so why are you saying that they did? I guess its the old liberalism thing again; “I’m going to tell everyone that he told me to get an education even though he didn’t and I bet nobody will check and then they will believe me”. It’s not working little man! Then the last sentence of “You must have been educated in Texas”

            Where do you get your facts. Bush’s brother kept voters out of the polls who would have voted for Gore. Even with that Gore won more votes. Gore also won the popular vote. Get an education before you tell others to. You must have been educated in Texas. According to US News and World Report (http://www.usnews.com/articles/education/high-schools/2009/12/09/americas-best-high-schools-gold-medal-list.html?PageNr=4) Texas has 11 schools on their top 100 High Schools in the Country list. Thats over 10% of the list my man! So again, you like most liberals, have been DEBUNKED!! Please, before YOU tell people to get an education first, go back and proofread your post, check for grammar mistakes, punctuation errors and just plain old incorrect facts, and then fix them. You would earn yourself a lot more credibility. But you are probably used to not having much anyhow so I am going to bet you really don’t care. Have a great day!

          • http://INTERNETEXPLORER GUNDOCTOR

            WELL DAVE, IT IS OBVIOUS TO THE MOST CASUAL OBSERVER YHAT YOU HAVE
            UNDENIABLY BEEN EDUCATED BEYOND YOUR INTELLIGENCE. YOU DON’T DESERVE
            TO BE DEBATED WITH! BY THE WAY JACKASS….DON’T MESS WITH TEXAS!!!

        • Buster

          You conservatives are IDIOTS! You accuse Democrats of doing things you have been doing for years. Now you are sore losers. WAH WAH,.

          • http://TheFuelBusiness.com skidboot

            Look at where we are at now And who’s the Leader?

          • JC

            That’s rather childish Buster. The nation is going down the toilet and you think arguing about the past is somehow relevant?
            The whole system is a mess and needs an overhaul…but not the Socialist Kenyan kind.

          • George E

            Buster,

            Got any proven examples where Republicans actually “stole” an election like Democrats have done?

          • bp

            Oh, sure, Buster! By your argument, liberals are just copying conservatives. If this were true, there would be no difference; conservatives would be pleased. And liberals, sore winners! So, who’s the idiot?!

          • Kinetic1

            The past doesn’t matter? Are you nuts? Without looking at the past how will we ever understand how we got here and how to fix it. Can I name an election the Republicans stole? Sure, both Bush wins. Florida was clearly a hatchet job by Katherine Harris (as noted above) and Ohio in 2004 where they were caught taking ballots out the back door.

            Does this mean that I believe that Republicans steal elections and Democrats are pure and Honest? Of course not. Elections have been rigged by both parties over the years, and that’s why we need to learn from the past. Given the chance, someone in power will do whatever they can to stay in power. Knowing this, how can anyone accept the paperless touch screen election machines? Why just month we saw Alvin Green, as aptly named a person as you could ever hope to find winning an election that was questionable at best. Countless voters complained that the screen displayed the wrong name when they voted, but what could they do? To suggest that this was a fair election is to say that the dumbest and least responsible voters are all living in SC! Here was a man with no experience, no campaign, no platform and no name recognition. Are we to believe that the majority of Democrats in SC walked into the booth, looked at the candidates list and said “hey, here’s a guy I’ve never heard of before. Says he’s an unemployed ex soldier. WHY NOT?!” This should be a warning to all voters that we must demand campaign reform.

          • Allan

            Let’s get the facts straight. If you read the article, it was about how to WIN the coming election, not how to complain. Bingo. In the second comment on this article, it was a Progressive who started complaining about previous elections.

          • http://libertyalert walter kuhns

            amen to the whole systems is in the crapper.

        • Mark

          Both the Republicans and the Democrats Have destroyed this country and the economy, regardless of which party is in power the country keeps heading down hill. The definition of insanity is to keep doing the same thing and expecting different results. The only candidate in the last presidential election who would have been acceptable to the founding fathers was Ron Paul who happened to be a Republican and his own party worked to defeat him, their both against constitutional government. Wake up people, both parties are the same, the best way to win a horse race is to own BOTH horses.

      • http://PersonalLibertyDigest Debbie

        You liberals just kill me – and you can’t even spell opinion!

        • http://hihdalh@uwstout.edu Rod Hildahl

          Debbie, Yes , the Democrat, Linda cannot spell, but they have to be uninformed to support Socialistsn i.e., Obama and company. Here in Wisconsin, an idiot Democrat politician in Milwaukee , Peggy West, said yesterday “that she could understand why Texas might object to Illegal immigrants because of their proximity to Mexico. Arizona is no where near the Mexican border. ” To be a Dem, one has to be stupid and Linda is a good representation of that mindset.

          • Kohl

            @ Debbie: Rod, people like Debbie have a serious problem: it takes money to make any enterprise function. Governments takes money from it’s citizens without much petitioning. Socialists like Debbie equate this with “fairness” for those with less. If I have more money than the bum down the street who squanders his on cigarettes, beer and dope then its my “responsibilty to step in and give him more money. He will continue to be a bum but I’m somehow responsible for his condition. This, in a snapshot, is what socialists think. Debbie might be a bum or a tight-fisted conservative with her money but how she “feels” rules her politics. We who take care of our own must “feel”, too or there’s something wrong with us! We might be monsters or maybe crazy…because we’re “not like them”. Debbie and others like her will someday feel “different” when its their wealth a dictatorship comes to plunder.

          • Kohl

            Debbie, your name was used in the post out of context with my comment. sorry…bad editing. Just substitute your most hated liberal for your name.

          • Buster

            The vast majority of grammatical and spelling errors are from conservative morons.

          • libertytrain

            Buster – Actually all sides seem pretty equal in that department. IF you read these posts regularly you’d know that by now – I’d look at the public schools for about the last 40-50 years – I do believe the problem may have begun there.

          • Claire

            libertytrain–The voice of common sense! I agree with your post.

          • libertytrain

            Claire – Hi – kids were picked up last Sat. and I had to leave for Milwaukee Monday morn- probs with dad – hope all is aok with you and yours and Robin is doing well.

          • DaveH

            Buster,
            The vast majority of name-calling, ridicule, and fabricated facts are from Liberals. Gotta love you guys. Thanks for posting, so the fence-straddlers can see Liberals for what they really are – mean spirited, nasty people who just want to help themselves to the hard-earned money of others.

          • Claire

            libertytrain–I sincerely hope all is well with your Dad. Robin is doing okay. Your kids are gone–and I hope all is well with them too. It must be very “quiet” for you now!! Take care-

          • Ted Crawford

            This seems analogous to the Representative who, on the floor no less, was concerned that our troops might “tip an island over”! How silly of him! Every good progressive knows that, that would only happen if they were put on the right side of the island!!

          • http://libertyalert walter kuhns

            that is true that Arizona is close to Mexico, you could stand in both countries at the same time. How about parts of Arizona being shut down to citizens of Arizona because it is hazardous to your life to be there (for you idiots that means dead).There are Illegals there carrying AK-47′s. get a grip it is and has been out of hand.

        • bp

          Debbie; Agreed. They can’t follow rules, have no morals, cannot stay on topic or differentiate between subjective and objective.
          Buster and Claire: write each other an email or send a letter!

          • bp

            Umm, that would be libertytrain and Claire. Sorry, not you Buster!

          • Claire

            bp–And exactly what did you mean by your comment? Are you the blog police?

          • Kinetic1

            So libertytrain and Claire are liberals who can’t stay on topic? It was Debbie, not Linda who strayed from the topic to get in a jab about poor use of spell check. Let’s not generalize, ok?

          • bp

            This, is what I’m referring to; a personal conversation:
            – Hi – kids were picked up last Sat. and I had to leave for Milwaukee Monday morn- probs with dad – hope all is aok with you and yours and Robin is doing well.
            –I sincerely hope all is well with your Dad. Robin is doing okay. Your kids are gone–and I hope all is well with them too. It must be very “quiet” for you now!! Take care-

          • Claire

            bp–I knew what you were referring to but I wanted you to reply and say it! And you did!! I won!!! A few sentences off the subject and you become offended?? All these posts to read and you pick on me?? Sorry, fella, you do not upset me in the least. Now go ahead and say you “never” get off the subject.

          • libertytrain

            Claire – there will always be these types of folks in our world who do think they are the blog police, etc. I can promise you, they are not and I’m certain Mr. Livingston does not mind an occasional digression from his topics – an occasional off-topic banter and common courtesy binds folks together in tough times and good times and strengthens our resolve when a bit of human kinship is added to the mix.

          • Claire

            libertytrain–I would give you my email address but I don’t think I should post it on this site or any site. Hmmm, let me think on it. I can be a detective! lol

          • libertytrain

            Claire – don’t worry about it – bp was not given any special powers on this site and is easily “off topic” frequently him/herself – the “do as I say not as I do” logic is alive and well everywhere – even as we express our personal liberty — It is not safe to give your email address in any blog – I’m clever myself so we will cross that bridge later.

          • Claire

            libertytrain– I know there is one lady that posts on this site and she always includes her email address. I am careful.

          • libertytrain

            Claire – you are correct – I’ve seen that too – crazy

        • KASI (AMERICAN)

          Debbie,thats because they have it confused with the truth silly liberal voting is for americans

      • anon

        This party of opposition crap is getting old. Of course they are the part of opposition, that’s what they are elected for. Republicans and Democrats are political competitors and their core values strongly oppose each other. Republicans are elected to pursue their agenda and oppose all other agendas. Same with the Democrats. When the Republicans have control of Congress the Democrats become the party of opposition. That’s the way our politics currently works, get over it.

        This is the same as calling one football team the team of opposition because they won’t let the other team win without effort. Oh wait, that’s how it works, doesn’t it?

        • http://n/z JIM

          You may have noticed that republicans and democrats are signing off on the same bills most Americans are against. It hasn’t been an either or party in quire some time. If you hadn’t noticed that then your probably unaware your country is being run by a foreign power.

          • bp

            Jim; FYI. The Dems have the White House and a majority of the Congress and Senate. They don’t need ANY Republican votes. When they screech about “the opposition”; there is none.

          • DaveH

            For Individual Freedom, Personal Responsibiliy, Free Markets, and Limited Government, vote for the only Party that can get the job done, vote Libertarian:
            http://libertarianparty.org/platform

          • Kinetic1

            The Dems have a simple majority, but not the (in my opinion, unconstitutional) super majority needed to get past the Republicans. In fact, with some of those blue dogs it’s hard to say they have much of a majority at all! Unless the Dems can learn to vote in lock step like the Republicans they will never get anything past.

        • LocalYokel

          You may never get to see the peaceful end of another game with mad media controling the scoreboard, Anon. Do you have a plan “B” yet?
          You can bet they have many.

      • kenny

        you cant even think for yourself linda you are probabley on welfare stop being a victim two wrongs dont make a right we dont win by the populase vote we win by the eletro vote which i believe is wrong

        • Bill J

          The reason that we have an electoral college system is because it is almost impossible to manipulate the process ir operates by. Whereas the popular vote is easily manipulated to get a desired result. I suggest you people get educated on how the presidental election process works.

          • Allan

            Since elections can be manipulated, ala Acorn, electoral votes can be manipulated. Hawaii, Illinois, Maryland, New Jersey and Washington have adopted the new national popular vote basis for awarding electors instead of the state’s popular vote. California, Rhode Island, and Vermont have also officially adopted it but haven’t avoided their governors’ vetoes as of yet.

          • http://libertyalert walter kuhns

            doesn’t the electoral college work only if the people in the electoral college elect the person they are obligated to elect?

        • bp

          Kenny; And you are running your sentences without punctuation! You must be a liberal.

        • DaveH

          The founding fathers had the task of getting the various states to unite under a common government. To achieve that task they needed a contract to assure the states that they would not be run over by the Federal Government. Part of that was the establishment of electors for the election of a President. This was done so that the less populous states wouldn’t be run over by the high population density states. If that hadn’t been promised under the Constitution, the low-population states probably would not have joined the Union.
          Read it here:
          http://www.cato.org/pubs/constitution/article2_en.html

          Would you play a game where the odds were stacked against you? I wouldn’t.

      • Jim Allen

        LINDA: The electorial college, which I firmly approve of, can allow one presidental candidate get less of the popular vote and still win the election. That is what happened in Bush vs Gore and I thank our good God that President Bush did win.

        • Kinetic1

          Bad example. You may recall that the Supreme Court stepped in to stop the count in Florida, thus handing the Presidency to Bush. Differing opinions still exist as to who would have won if they had not stepped in.

          • bp

            As usual, Kinetic1, you are short on facts. SEVERAL reports show that Bush would have won, either way. SCOTUS upheld Florida election laws. Period. Stop fighting old wars. Our country is in trouble TODAY.

          • Kinetic1

            And several reports show that he would not. Note that I said differing opinions. Clearly I am aware that some believe it was fair, but it is still a poor choice as an example. I am not fighting old battles, but rather pointing out another issue that could get us in even deeper trouble if we do not pay attention to the past.

          • Allan

            To see a liberal acknowledge differing opinions in a respectful way is heartening.

          • Ted Crawford

            Kinetic, You either have bad information or you are being disingenuous. The gore faction only wanted to recount certain counties. The S. C. simply stated they would have a complete recount, or none.
            By the way one of the main stream media groups, I think ABC, hardly a bastone of conservative ideaology, funded a recount based on gores request. bush still won, although by a smaller margine!

          • Kinetic1

            The Supreme Court did indeed require a full recount, but the majority decided that there was not enough time and so stood behind then Secretary of State Harris and gave the election to Bush.

            As for the recount, there were several. The first, run by the Miami Herald and USA today found that Bush would have won if, under all but the most generous standards they had counted just the counties requested. It was the National Opinion Research Center at the University of Chicago, hired by a news consortium that did a recount of disputed ballots from ALL districts. There goal was to determine the reliability and accuracy of the systems used for the voting process. As a result they found that Florida’s system was inconsistent in it’s method of addressing disputed ballots. Had the ballots in question from all districts been addressed in ANY sort of consistent manner, Gore would have received over 100 more votes that Bush.

            Yes, I do research before I respond. You may consider your “facts” better than mine, and you may disagree with my information or sources, but be assured that I am not just turning to a radio or TV personality pulling “facts” out of his rear.

          • American Citizen

            Members of several newspapers went down to Florida after the election and counted the votes there. Bush won, period.

          • http://libertyalert walter kuhns

            whoever could get the most votes whether legal or illegal.

        • truesoy

          Jim, how could you, or anyone in their right mind to thank God for the disastrous 8 years of Bush. If anything, it would be more like we were being punished. But, on to another point; I want to remind you and your pen-pals in this blog that it was the ‘hanging chads’, the newly discovered republican scam to steal the election, and with help from the partisan Supreme Court (activists judges) that Bush was handed the presidency of the U.S.
          But, of course, there are those that believe things happens for a reason, and they might be right, because, without Bush there would have never been an Obama. Aahhh, the sweet taste of revenge!!!

          • http://libertyalert scoobie

            “O”ne
            “B”ad
            “A”ss
            “M”istake
            “A”merica

          • meteorlady

            Actually the press has everyone so brainwashed about Bush it’s almost sickening. Bush has some pretty good years, gave us a couple of good tax breaks (marriage penalty, investment credits and a lower tax rate for everyone), lobbied for a comprehensive energy plan and even tried to get oversight on Fannie and Freddie but Dodd said they were well run and not a problem (the same idiot that just wrote the new banking reform laws). Even with both wars Bush had the deficit coming down and it was at it’s lowest when the Democrats gained control. After that the deficit started to balloon and has continued past even our wildest dreams. Please do not come back and tell me that Clinton left Bush with a surplus because it’s just not true – check the US Treasury website and verify deficits.

      • kate8

        Linda, can you say “Tom Daschle”? Dems equally block Rep’s when the latter holds congressional majority.

        And still, today, democrats still rail on about how “Bush stole the election because he didn’t win the popular vote”. Boo hoo. Clinton didn’t win the popular vote either, but you were okay with that. It’s just how things are done in America.

        The party of opposition depends on who is in control.

      • http://www.kjnf.net jimmimax

        Fortunately the New York times ran an editorial the day after Bush won Florida and in it they admitted that Bus won Florida which is why the Supreme court over turned the Florida court that tried to steal the election from Bush and of course the left wing liberal progressive socialist communist continue to make the false claim that Bush stole the election, just like these leftists stole the Governors election in Washington and the Senate race in Minnesota, so much for dummycrats being the good guys!!

      • Greg

        Linda,

        It doesn’t surprise me at all, “in my option”(think you meant opinion), that you can’t even consider what you’re reading. The Party of Opposition? That’s so left, liberal and stupid I can’t even understand it. I’ll keep this simple so you can understand it…..enjoy your last few months while your bastion of hope and change is still backed by Congress. After November, things will be changing again giving hope to people that want something more and better from their lives AND ARE WILLING TO WORK FOR IT. Did you understand?

      • Maryanne

        Talk about Gore and Bush, you know what gore and the Democrats did and got stuck up the butt with it. They told the immigrants that were coming in and didn’t even know where they were or even anything about voting. The Democrats and probably Gore instructed them to check the box in the right hand corner so they did but unbeknown to Gore and his gang, the ballot was changed and it ended up that Bush got the votes which serves them right that’s why gore fought so hard, he thought he got cheated but it was alight for him to cheat, right? Good for them. Our honest voting system has gone down the drain like every other moral thing has in America, I love America but I think a lot of the people in America have fallen short on all good things and good sense, you don’t see much of it anymore.that we knew, it’s pitiful and sad, makes me almost ashamed and it isn’t being taught at home nor in the schools, their too busy teaching sex.

        • Greg

          “honest voting system has gone down the drain like every other moral thing”.

          RIGHTO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

          Common sense has now genuinely become “rare sense”. There is no Santa Claus. If you want anything in this life, WORK for it. Have a positive attitude and this will reward you. I appreciate your comments.

          • Airangel

            Amen, they are not teaching history only marketing…You need the latest ipod from Apple, 1st graders need condoms, Gay people can’t create life naturally so we need to let them raise kids to be even more confused about life – NOT! Unbelievable what is being shoved down our throats and being force-fed and brainwashed as acceptable behavior!!!

          • Ted Crawford

            The rarest commodity, therefore the most Uncommon,thing on earth is commonsense!

          • http://- Alice S

            I am not really replying to Greg, I’m just shocked at some of the comments which are not really dealing with the importance of what’s going TODAY. I did not vote for Obama, for two reason, even having read both his books which showed that he was really raised in an un-American/Marxist way. I didn’t vote for him because of Rev. Wright and his connection to him and he is still connected and by the comment from Michele when she said, it was the first time she was proud of her country. That did it for me, I knew that McCain ran a bad campaign and I knew Bush was doing some things that would get us into trouble at home. Now, I’m convinced that we have to stop squabbling about party and show that we care about our Country and our lifestyle as we knew it, because by damn Obama will change it and it won’t be American anymore.

      • Frank

        What a total airhead you are Linda, that’s the best you can come up with?

      • http://randal.coon@yahoo.com Randal Coon

        I doubt this will even be published as your requirements, such as “mail” is so nebulous as to invite any number of answers.
        But if you do publish it, I would simply like to say that I agree with Linda’s comment above. I don’t see where the founding fathers or anyone since, with any reason, has said that it doesn’t matter how many people vote for the winner, or how many electoral votes he may receive, it really depends on the way you draw the map to show the amount of geograpic area that voted for a person to make him a winner. The clear meaning to that is that it is up to the people who OWN most of the country, are the wealthiest, have the most guns to start the revolution that should decided the President and the direction that this country goes. Go ahead. Elect Sarah Palin. Vote to cancel SS Benefits, Medicare Benefits, Medicaid, Food Stamps, Farm Subsidies, [woops--not for the really BIG farmers who "need them"]. In fact just balance the budget that “W” [Cheney in disguise] got started down the wrong path, remove any regulation that would harm the poor manufacturers from having to have anyone look at their products when they arrive here from China before they are placed in stores for the public to buy. But don’t worry. They only ones who will be wealthy enough to buy those products are the wealthy landowners, who make up 80% of the votes in this country. I’m sure they are not worried about the quality of products that are sold sight unseen from China, N. Korea, etc. Besides MOST of the other 20% wil be dead within a few years, as it should be, and our proud country can take its proud place as the unquestioned leader of nations once again, as it should be. And that should solve the population and energy problems for many years to come. So ALL for PALIN in 2012.

        • American Citizen

          Balderdash!! It’s the Democrats who are squandering our money and taking away from those whom you mentioned. We are on SS, got no COLA raise this year, yet we just got raises in our supplemental premiums. It’s the Dems who want to lower what is paid to Medicaid and Medicare. Read the (((@@ bill!

          • http://libertyalert scoobie

            Didn’t the politicians vote themselves a raise but there was no COLA raise?

        • KASI (AMERICAN)

          randal coon,if you would read the constitution you would see exactly how the electorate works,unfortunatly they dont teach much of that in school anymore (thank you unattentive parents who could care less what your children learn as long as they get a free meal at home and school)as far as subsidies are concerned how many farmers are getting paid to not grow or produce ANYTHING,or the farmers who need water to grow their crops but the source has been diverted to save a mino.Now as far a s.s. goes when it was first signed in,it was for the people who put into the system but that all changed with another liberal president when he took from the acoount and put back ious.Look im all for charity when its someone who really needs it and by that,i mean willing to help themselves but are having a hard time.I come from a family in Vermont who has made it their lifes work to suck off the system an,aunt who could build damns in a river for a swimming hole or build a porch,but just couldnt find the gumption to get off her ass to go to work everyday.Their house was paid for by the govt. (and a fraudulant lawsuit),food paid for by the govt.,spending money from the govt.,never worked a day her life (NOT 1 SINGLE DAY) sucked off the gov all her life and now she is dying of cancer letting us pay for that too,well if she worked and maybe had ins. it might be in or at least she or her ins. co would be paying for it and not us.Who know it could even be in remission.It might sound harsh but people like that increase our living expenses dramitcally (thank you medicare/medicaid only paying .40 cents on the dollar)so when me and my immediate family need something we cant get it like affordable medical attension . Now for the regulations,YOU liberals are either too dumb or jealous of corps. to understand much about it but you over regulate through environmental reasons or “humanity reasons” the companies are going to move and we need products so what are we to do besides rely on another source.Now if a company treated its employees like crap how many people would work there and if they did its their own fault, so if everyone quit, that co. would have to change its ways its the only true evolution.

      • Saundra

        Wow, this article reads alot like a hate piece on democrats. I had hoped for something more factual and honest. I think I’m going to have to mark my liberty news as spam now.

      • Captain

        Linda, I am so sorry that you are blinded by the light. I don’t vote party I vote for what’s best for our country and if you can’t see the destruction that is being created you need to remove your blinders. Washington is on an agenda to destroy this country, corporations are starting to send all their manufacturing overseas, doctors are having second thoughts on their careers, Washington wants to throw more money out the window for yet another stimulus and the list goes on. Even I being at the last years of my life know this is not what I want for my children and grandchildren. All I can say is that Bush is beginning to look like a saint, at least he didn’t surround himself with extremists.

        • Kinetic1

          How can you say “at least he (Bush) didn’t surround himself with extremists.”? This was the administration that supported the idea of the “unitary executive”. His advisors were the people that pushed warrentless wire taps for average citizens. They corralled dissenters in a “free speech zone” far away from where he was speaking. His VP held secret meetings with oil companies to set our energy policy. He placed corporate insiders and lawyers in positions of oversight, leaving people who once worked for the coal industry to decide how we would protect our wild lands.

          The Bush administration was wrapped in extremism.

          • Allan

            If they were secret meetings, how do you know they took place?

          • Kinetic1

            They were “secret” in that Cheney refused to divulge exactly who attended. We knew he was meeting to discuss energy policy as then president Bush had named him chief of the National Energy Policy Development Group. The Washington Post had obtained a report listing executives of Exxon-Mobil Corp., Conoco, Royal Dutch Shell Oil Corp., and the American subsidiary of British Petroleum among those who attended these meetings. It was also reported that Cheney had met with the CEO of BP. All the above have denied these reports before members of the Senate, and the Bush/Cheney administration has refused freedom of information requests to release the names. Further, in 2007, the Washington Post reported the names of individuals in the Task Force. They included at least 40 meetings with representatives from groups involved with energy-producing industries. Names like James J. Rouse, then vice president of Exxon Mobil and a major Bush donor; Ken Lay, then head of Enron Corp.; Jack N. Gerard, then with the National Mining Association; Red Cavaney, president of the American Petroleum Institute; and Eli Bebout, one of Cheney’s pals from Wyoming who served in the state Senate and owns an oil and drilling company.

            So it’s not that the meetings were secret in the sense that we know nothing about them, but in the sense that the available information suggests possible collusion between highly placed White House officials and industry. Given the recent disaster in the Gulf and the Bush administrations relaxing/rescinding of regulations in the oil industry (among many others), the facts regarding these meeting may be very enlightening.

        • http://libertyalert scoobie

          and commies.

          • eddie47d

            You said Sadam was a terrorist and maybe he was for he did attack Kuwait and Iran.That was still not a reason to attack him after 9/11.How many countries has America terrorized under false pretenses? Vietnam,Iraq, Guatemala,El Salvador,Nicaragua,Hondouras,Columbia,Chile and a few others. Most countries have evil histories and we are no exception. At least we can read about it without fear.

      • Joe

        Wake up Linda, you just don’t get it. Throughout the history of the world, democracy has always failed. This entire article went straight over your head. Democracy always fails and leads to DICTATORSHIP! America is a REPUBLIC, not a democracy. That’s why it has lasted for over 200 years. You like Argentina better, then move there!

      • Connie Crouch

        What “lots more votes” are you talking about???

        Those votes were counted & recounted & re-re-RE-recounted, & Gore lost =every time!=

        Rewriting history much? Try living in reality!

        • http://libertyalert scoobie

          amen

        • brian2kathleen

          Connie,
          I believe the votes Linda is referencing, although I don’t know if she knows it, are the actual individual votes nationally, of which Gore did get more.

          Where Bush won the popular vote and the electoral votes, barely, but won nonetheless, was in Florida, and that did, indeed, decide the race.

          For more on this, search this page for “brian2kathleen” and you’ll see my other entry, which responded to Linda directly.

      • RadmanBob

        Linda/Panda Girl and the other liberal commenters: Can you honestly (and with a straight face) support the Obama agenda that is sending us headlong into a fiscal abyss of deficit that our granchildren will never be able to repay? Can you support Obama’s refusal to carry out the one (1) federal responsibility under the constitution…”to provide for the common defense?” (That would require a secure border and the deportation of people who have entered the country illegally, not another blanket amnesty.) Can you support the enormous federal bureaucracy run by unelected, unvetted and unconfirmed Czars that is dragging our economy down? How about all of the takeovers of private industries? Bottom line: If you support any of these activities, YOU are part of the problem.

        Oh, and any arguments about George Bush are ludicrous and moot. He’s NOT the president anymore; and Obama’s blame game is wearing thin on even some of the yellow-dogs. Thank goodness November is coming; and “We the People” will be retiring a lot of the statist snollygosters who have been partying and “ODing” on Obama’s Kool-Aid.

        • American Citizen

          It is now being said that if Obama grants blanket amnesty to the illegals, that is an impeachable offense.

          • JC

            I think what is being said AC is that if he granted amnesty by executive order that it would be enough to outrage far too many Americans and spark an impeachment proceeding.
            I’d almost like to see him do it so we can impeach him and draw enough attention to the insurgency to get action on both.

        • http://libertyalert scoobie

          amen again

      • Roy

        Pay attention girl and don’t fall for the propaganda and lies the dems. spread on Bush. Bush won the numbers too. Only a few ignorant party line voters wanted Gore. If the supreme court had not been so balanced in 2000 a lame brain named Gore would’ve been president on 9/11. Remember the bent and hanging chads. Don’t just blindly believe what you hear. Those who hate you and your country count on you for that.

      • Paul

        Linda- Al Gore did NOT receive the majority of the vote; either electoral or popular. Please provide proof to back up your claim. You cant nor could Al Gore or he would have been in the White House. The issue here is that Liberals will always commit election fraud to get in power. The problem there (besides teh obvious) is that the majority of Americans are NOT LIBERAL! So for you to stand there and scream “GEORGE BUSH GEORGE BUSH GEORGE BUSH” isnt working any more sweetie. Your time is up!

      • Illagitami non-carborumdom sunte

        OMG, Linda, you are brillant. Insiteful. Profound. Thoughtful. I am in total awe of your intellectual capacity.
        How DO YOU DO IT?

      • brian2kathleen

        You’ve missed the whole point, Linda.

        First, the article is not saying that the election of 2008 was numerical fraud. It is saying that by and large, urban centers tended to vote for Obama because urban populations tend to attract more of those who want government to supply answers to their problems. That part of the population gravitates toward mass transit, civil service jobs, and government subsidized relief programs. Naturally, they are more likely to vote for a candidate that promises to sustain that style of government response to social problems, and 2008 was no exception to that.

        Because urban areas are by definition more populous, the voting map shows that although Obama did win by a fair margin according to the votes cast, by land area, in contrast, conservatives preside in most of the country by far. This shouldn’t surprise anyone. Conservatives, in general, live further away from urban centers because they:

        (1 want the most property their hard earned money can buy because they have an owner’s mentality. Real estate is cheaper the further away from cities that it is. Conservatives, in a land of opportunity, would rather own a house and a car than rent a flat next to the bus line. They’re funny like that.

        2) want to live where there are lower taxes, since they pay them, and out of money they earn. Smaller cities and rural communities, as a rule, have lower taxes than big cities.

        And don’t give me your tired line about how I don’t understand poor people. I am responsible for a wife and two daughters and I earned a total of $12,000 in 2010. I have made more than $25,000 in 3 of the last 25 years.

        Moving along, the article is stating that if this trend continues as is, the voting public that does live in urban areas, as it becomes more dependent on government help to survive, will dominate future elections, especially if illegal immigrants are given amnesty and eventually allowed to vote, because they are naturally going to vote for those who would allow them to have the most rights in a country where they were neither born, invited, or earned the right to participate. When this happens, there will be no hope for this country to return to its foundational principles. Thus, the author appeals to readers to get more involved in the process.

        Secondly, in 2000, Al Gore won the popular vote by 543,895. That’s not a lot in 101,000,000 votes. In fact, it’s about .5%, or 1/200 of all the votes cast in that election. It is one of the slimmest margins, in percentage of votes cast, in U.S. presidential election history. Leave it to a Gore supporter to color one of the closest such races in American history as an overturned landslide.

        Thirdly, of course conservatives were not complaining because their guy (or so they thought) won in the end. Why would they complain? Would you have complained if Gore had won by a court ruling?

        There are conservative voters today who believe that Obama should not be president, but their reasons have nothing to do with statistics. Nor, by the way, have I ever heard anyone say they didn’t accept Obama because he was black, just in case you were wondering. Never.

        In fact, the only people I see complaining over statistical points about Bush’s victory in 2000 is people like you, today, 10 YEARS LATER. And you think conservatives are sore losers? Talk about grudges!

        Lastly, take a vocabulary course before you comment again. The real reason “Republications” aren’t complaining is because there are no such things as “Republications,” unless you’re counting the same non-sensical statements you probably make in comment sections all over the Web. But those republications don’t themselves complain. They are technically inanimate (this means they’re not alive, so they aren’t capable of complaint).

        In addition, you have no “option” about possible statistical manipulation of votes in the 2000 presidential election. You might have an opinion, although you wouldn’t know the word for it, but who would listen anyway to someone who can’t write a commentary of four consecutive error-free sentences?

        Maybe what you meant to say in your first sentence was, “This whole article is completely over my head.”

        • libertytrain

          that was one of the most enjoyable, well done explanations that I have read in a very long time – thanks -

          • brian2kathleen

            Sincerely… thank you.

      • Karl

        Linda, while it is true that people should indeed pay careful attention to all relevant statistics in any situation (especially pertaining to a matter as important as liberty vs tryanny), the point of the article is that–for the most part–the takers voted for the community agitator-in-chief, while producers voted for McCain/ Palin.
        Many of us lamented that McLame wasn’t nearly conservative enough, but consoled ourselves and each other with the hope that Sarah could influence policy decisions. She has integrity, and a decent track record of reining in government spending on such royal perqs as chefs, airplanes, and salaries. What we complain about is that the greedy, lazy, and un-/misiinformed are allowed to override our conscientious, deliberate attempts to reclaim and maintain our Divinely endowed rights. Please remember that America was founded by and for people who cherish freedom and are determined to pass that legacy of opportunity to our children and theirs. Many hundreds of thousand of valiant, courageous, selfless men bled, sweated, wept, starved, and froze to secure those natural, unalienable rights for us. It is our sacred duty to demonstrate our gratitude by continuing the vigil. Millions sacrifice to come here (many illegally, unfortunately) to embrace the remaining freedoms we still enjoy. There is no law prohibiting the misguided (who don’t appreciate INdependence) from leaving. There are plenty of countries where statism already has a tight stranglehold on their citizens (or subjects). This nation was hallowed to be a haven for those of our Father’s children who value INdependence from iron-fisted despots.

      • Mike

        All I can say is… you’re EXACTLY the problem!!! What an idiot and naive person you are, and sadly enough, you’re not alone…

    • John

      The 5 banks that can’t fail are the five that were designated as the Federal Reserve Corp. This happened after 1929. Now think about it the banks that run our economy did risky business with the nations money. Then all of a sudden they were reporting billions of dollars of profit. I don’t think so. We as tax payers gave them money as it is the consumer confidence that drives the market It is another give away form our taxes. Elections are basically the same. The powers above (electorical college determines the president further taking power from the people. Powder is dry.

    • http://aol Alan

      THIS IS LONG BUT HAS A LOT OF MEANING SO RATHER THEN CONDEM OR CONDON JUST TRY TO THINGK WHAT ITS ABOUT !!!!!!! ITS ABOUT MY FEELINGS FOR AMERICA AND THE PEOPLE THAT DO CONTRIBUTE TO IT>!!!!!!!!!!!!

      Amazing note of all these comments. It just never seems to fail wether it is government or just the people. Always pointing but never solving the obvious. We as a nation have turned into self indulging lazy asses with a feeling of entitlement. I joined the Army at 17 and learned responsibility and integrity. I worked every day of my life and in all my working years only missed 15 days due to sickness. I never collected welfare,unemployment or food stamps. I feel used’s by our stupid ass government as all my contributions are shared with lazy ass welfare recipients, illegal’s and keeping worthless pieces of shit alive in prison. Our stupid ass government refuses aide for an oil spill yet can’t make clear decisions what to do. The mouth of government says great things but is surely BRAIN DEAD. GET THE ILLEGALS CLEANING< GET WELFARERS to PLANT FOOD if they want to eat STOP PELOUSI FROM USING MILLIONS SO SHE CAN BE COMFORTABLE FLYING HER DED AS ALL OVER WITH TAXPAYER DOLLARS> SHE SURE IS NOT CONCERNED WITH ALL THE PEOPLE THAT ARE EFFECTED WITH THE OIL SPILL> THE MILLION SHE SPENT FLYING HER ASS AROUND SURE WOULD HELP SOME OF THE GULF PEOPLE> JUST REMEMBER ALL THIS IN NOVEMBER . President sent National Guard to the boarders to let them know illegal’s are coming. What does he want the National Guard to use spit balls. Another great Presidential move. Why doesn’t he make all the illegal’s clean up all the shit they left on their way her. When your done cleaning all the shit you created we’ll talk about amnesty. When you turn in one drug runner you get 10 points. When you work and help build schools,hospitals,roads,and fight for our country, you’ll get 10 points,when you give to help the military that have clayed down their lives so you can be free, we’ll give you 10 points,I could go on and on as I feel so hurt seeing this country being torn apart by politicians that work for their own means and we have become their toys. YOU YOUNG PEOPLE HAD BETTER GET YOUR HEADS OUT OF YOUR ASSES, FORGET PARTIES ER THEY BE REPUBLICAN OR DEMICRATE OR TEA PARTY BUT CHECK <AND CHECK< AND CHECK their BACK GROUNDS TO FIND THOSE THAT TRULY CARE ABOUT AMERICA AND ITS PEOPLE I BELEIVE THAT THE GENERAL TOLD THE TRUTH<BUT DID GO OUT OF THE CHAIN OF COMMAND Thank God I have lived 72 years and enjoyed a country that I have contributed to, I love my country as it gave me an education, and a chance to be a productive human being. I enjoyed what I worked so hard for and nothing was handed to me. It is YOU the younger people and your children that will pay the price for this governments idiotic moves. WAKE UP AMERICANS BEFORE you have to pray to ALAIH or JUAN VALDEZ. GET THE ILLEGALS OUT>

      • http://libertyalert scoobie

        AMEN MY FRIEND, MAYBE PEOPLE SHOULD GET OFF THEIR DUFFS AND VOTE FOR PEOPLE WHO WILL GIVE US REAL AND PRODUCTIVE CHANGE, CHANGE FOR THE BETTERMENT OF THE WORKING CLASS. NOT THE LAZY PUKES WHO WANT THINGS HANDED TO THEM.

        • brian2kathleen

          So I’ll see you in November?

      • Claire

        Alan– I agree, tell it like it is.

    • http://thisone jayjay

      That’s true Jay!

  • Dave Adams

    The major thing I noticed is that all the Borders around the country is control by democraps.

    • Airangel

      Exactly, most international gateways all around the water….where most foreigners come and reside and then hopefully get citizenship…definitely all the borders and most high crime areas are in blue!

      • Gene Conner

        I think we should REQUIRE your last year tax form to prove you did at leas file a return. then you could vote. (it’s only right for the ones who pay the bills to be the ones who elect our leaders.) What do you think. Geterdone

        • http://www.kjnf.net jimmimax

          I love it!! Think we can get it on the ballot for the next election? This should drive those people with rectal cranial infusion the left absolutely nuts! What am I saying? They are already nuts!

        • Patsy in Tennessee

          That is a very good idea. Of course, the liberals/progressives will say those who don’t pay taxes will have no representation. That just means they can join the rest of us who don’t have representation. Just a side note, the “earned income credit” is just another way to steal from those who produce and give to those who don’t. Can you say “spread the wealth around?”

          • Greg

            Patsy,

            How does someone that doesn’t EARN their citizenship even deserve a vote? 40%plus of this country is on some form of government assistance. There are certainly those who need it legitimately and have earned it. My guess, and it’s only that, is that 80% of that 40% are just working the system……taxes, social security and the welfare system are already such an amazing disgrace, and this ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT president wants more of our income. Obamacare, FCC regulation of the internet, and gun control have to be stopped dead in their tracks. If not, the price will be felt for generations and the ideals my, and probably yours too, family fought and bled for will be forever lost. Shall we secede? NOPE. Let’s take our country back…..by whatever means necessary. That’s how it was formed in the first place. Let FREEDOM RING!!!! Greg

          • JC

            On a side note,
            Governor Jan Brewer sends a video message to the Kenyan.

            http://securetheborder.org/

          • Joe

            Patsy, I’m a Republican also, maybe more of an Independent, but I have to disagree with you on the Earned Income Credit. In order to qualify for this credit, you have to work. Most low paid legal American workers work much harder than the higher paid workers. The higher paid workers are the managers and business owners sitting at a desk in the A/C while the minimum wage earners sweat like pigs in hot warehouses and out in the fields and are the actual producers. You should point your anger at the Democrats living on Food Stamps, Medicaid and Unemployment Insurance. And also at the Union workers who make three times the value of their labor. China and India don’t have Unions, that’s why they lead us in production. I know the economy is bad, but people need to take whatever job is available, even if it only pays 1/3 of what they were making. I’ve never been unemployed in the 40 years that I’ve been working and I have to change jobs all the time. I get laid off, fired and sometimes I quit, but there’s always another job no matter how bad the economy is. When the economy is good, I make $15 per hour, when it’s bad I make $8 per hour.

          • Claire

            All politicians that campaign and run for office MUST have proof that they paid their taxes, too. And if they are not current on their taxes, then they cannot run for office. Simple as that.

          • JC

            Guys n Gals…aren’t we subliminally endorsing “income tax” here?
            I agree there should be some eligibility criteria, but not by way of income tax…which should be abolished anyway.

    • http://libertyalert scoobie

      WERE, NOW ARIZONA IS CONTROLLED BY A REPUBLICAN AND HOPEFULLY THE FEDS WILL LISTEN TO HER AND US ARIZONA CITIZENS (LEGAL ONES) AND VOTERS!!!!!

  • patrick looney

    if we want this country to STAY our country we need the action of every thinking man and woman in this country LEGALLY! Let your representatives in congress and the senate know that we want the borders closed and the illegal aliens kicked to the curb!

    • kenny

      your right sir patrick looney you do not want to give citizen ship to people that want to take over your country website numbersusa alipac support arizona the &?(&$%# with california

      • Hugh Jordan

        Most of California’s LEGAL residents are sick of the illegals, too. We see the consequences of this invasion daily.

        On the news the other night they showed a train traveling through Mexico with scores of would be illegal immigrants riding on the roof. There is no attempt by anyone to stop or control them… not the Mexican Government… not the state run railway… and not one complaint from the US government.

        There are even feeding stations on the way.

        Please don’t blame the citizens of California for the foolishness of our government. I wish we ciuld follow Arizona’s lead. Most LEGAL citizens are proud to show their ID when asked.

    • http://miseryinjustice.com Ray Wolfe

      Patrick, as you stated in your comment “legally”. If you were to go back in time and ask the revolutionist if what they were doing is legal, I am sure they would say “Yes”, while the crown in England would say “No, the colonists is a bunch of theives, and criminals”. But, as time has passed those colonists took a stand and made this the most productive and best country in the world.

      I am not completely disagreeing with you, however as in the above column you can see that where the people stand together, they are the law, regardless of what is written in law books and in library’s.

      The American people are getting fed up with our current corrupt legislation congress, and the tyrant president. Now, we as Americans need to take up arms and exterminate the vermin that have sold the American citizens out for money and greed. It’s like having coch roaches infested in your house, if you step on one, another low life vermin will take its place. The same is with congress, you can not just vote out a few, for other low life vermin will take there place. They are like coch roaches infested in a house, the only way to get rid of them is through EXTERMINATION! Let the revolution begin, as a former American soldier, I have seen what battle is like and this country needs a house cleaning before we spend any more money liberating foreign countries who are not greatful for what we do.

      Even our history tells us that this needs to happen, as in Thomas Jefferson’s statement: “The tree of liberty needs to be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots, and the blood of tyrants!”

      • http://www.kjnf.net jimmimax

        Sad but true, the left wing liberal progressive socialist communists have been egging for a royal rumble, the problem for them is we have the guns and as a retired veteran I do not think a nation gone under will have a dictator as there will be no money for welfare, illegals, disability and social security, do the left wing nut jobs think these people are going to stay home and support them? As for the military and the police they sure as hell do not care about that communist illegal alien in our White House! Get ready to rumble!!!

        • Ted Crawford

          Before anyone decides to “rumble” we might want to look into the ramifications of EO-13524. You might be correct in your belief that American troops and Law Inforcement Officers would hesitate before engaging fellow Americans. I’m not so sure about these NATO troops, however!!!!

    • A Patriot

      Have you noticed that our Senators and Representatives aren’t listening to us? What good will it do to tell them what we think or want? It doesn’t make any difference to them.

      • Claire

        A Patriot–Finally, an unbiased opinion. You are correct in what you say, none of them are listening to Americans. Sure, they all get on TV but they spew what they want us to hear and they all change once they are elected. Do any of the politicians actually get on TV and say what THEY would DO to help America get back on her feet? NO, they are always too busy beating up on each other, so consequently very few have really come up with solutions or substantial ideas.
        I am seeking an honest, decent, common sense politician that will not be a turncoat if elected. Is there any honest and decent politicians out there? Seems like I remember conversations talking about BOTH parties being gung ho for the NWO. We will have to be very wary and careful when voting time comes.

        • Jim H.

          Hi Claire, It would be refreshing to see a positive campaign for once. With Durban and Buras(sp) as our senator’s I have no hope of them listening to me. My Dad still tries and just gets form letters back telling him he’s wrong. They don’t care.

          • Claire

            Jim H–Durbin is an idiot. Mealy-mouthed. And Kirk has made an utter fool of himself. Political BS all the time. The lies are getting worse and worse. This tells me that Illinois politicians think the people in Illinois are pretty stupid. And we have been stupid by voting for them in the past. But no more. They will not get my vote. I truly don’t know who to vote for in November. None of them are trustworthy.
            No, none of them listen, I have sent emails, letters, etc. and I do not receive any replies.
            Politicians are going to do what they want. And if elected, it will be more of the same.

        • DaveH

          We can’t elect honest politicians, because nobody knows what is best for other peoples’ lives. So they lie to get elected. The only chance we have at honest politicians is to get the Government out of our personal lives and choices. One size does not fit all. When people are forced to deal with their own problems rather than riding on the shoulders of others, they learn. We could use a lot more learning in this country.
          As long as people think the Government (just other people) can give them happy lives that they didn’t have to work for, there are going to be unhappy citizens, no matter which party is in power.

          • Claire

            Dave H–”One size does not fit all” — Good choice of words. It is the nature of the “beast” to be corrupt and greedy. It has been this way for a long long time. Regarding people that expect the government to make their lives “happy”— I have seen others that fell upon hard times through no fault of their own. These people needed help and I did not have a problem with it. However, I do have a problem with the freeloaders. The leeches that “take” the government for every cent they can. The people that con and lie to receive welfare benefits. There are numerous people that want to “take the easy way out” and the honest people have to pay for their dishonesty.
            I never depended upon the government for my happiness. I never will. I made my own happiness during my lifetime.
            I am thoroughly disgusted with both parties. These two parties NEED to be on their “way out.” It is time for a change alright, a complete change from the idiocy and lack of common sense these two parties are projecting. It is a shame that decent and honest people cannot run for these offices. I am really tired of the greed, the corruption, the lies and deceit. I truly see no way out of this mess until all politicians are voted out. Keep a few good ones? Who are they? Who is honest enough to keep in office? What politician does NOT participate in payback. Politicians are so wrapped up in the game-playing that there is no way “out” for them. They are in a bind and they have to continue to travel this path they made for themselves. They have cheapened themselves.
            My husband is spending a lot of time checking out politicians, he is going down the list, doing research on each and every one of them and so far the ones he has completed research on have “baggage”—baggage that tells me what kind of person they really are. Of course, we expected that. In another post I said the Republicans and Democrats are a lot alike in many ways, and this is true if a person really thinks about it.
            I don’t have the answer. I don’t know what is in store for all of us. But I do have a gut feeling it is not good and it makes me mad. I am mad at the politicians that have corrupted our government. I am mad at the ineptness in the handling of issues and disasters. I am mad that government has put their own agendas and so-called political well-being first and foremost. The mishandling of issues is a nightmare. And they expect me to vote for them??!! Never.

        • Allan

          I would focus on getting them to sign pledges, and publicizing the hell out of those pledges.

    • http://libertyalert scoobie

      AMEN MAYBE THAT IS WHY THEY ARE CALLED ILLEGAL.

  • http://www.truedawnrising.blogspot.com Jerry D

    Another great article. In my opinion, the reason that we’re in this situation in the first place is that the average American stopped being informed about the issues and started believe anything the major media fed to them. A lot of this started in the public schools and continues to this day. Somehow, we need to take back the public schools from the liberals.

    • M Lorimer

      Very True. Most of society is controlled by the media

      • http://libertyalert scoobie

        AMEN. WHAT HAPPENED TO FAIR AND BALANCED REPORTING?

        • Claire

          scoobie— Fair and balanced reporting? I think that has fallen by the wayside. The media presents their news and their little inuendos in accordance with whatever party they favor.

    • http://LiberttyDigest Bruce D.

      I believe taking back the schools is a key for future survival. Also we cannot allow amnesty as it will lead to citizenship and more social programs. The Federal law needs to be enforced as it stands. To do these things it is crucial to secure both parties in congress in November. Once that is done Republicans need to know their jobs are on the line if they do not do the right thing. Then it is crucial to get rid of Obama so he cannot appoint anymore activist judges. We must pass a law that judges must have understanding of original intent of the constitution and take an oath to uphold original intent.

      • Airangel

        yep, get the unions out of education! teach the truth and real history, not a reinvented version of it…we only learn from past mistakes and victories…keep it real!

    • Rhonda

      I am the only one in my family, daughters, spouse, inlaws, that have my eyes open. Why do they think Democrats will keep big business in check, but don’t see the ramifications of immigrants, and those riding the gravy train to benefits, “getting their reward for their ancestors suffering racial discriminiation”, those who bring their family from middle eastern countries, live in big houses, but put their mother, father, grandmother, grandfather on medi-cal but won’t suffer under the need for more taxes, to a country who punishes those who rise to the top, provide services, products, employment? It just seems so clear. The churches just see compassion, and that everyone needs to be taken care of; are we just in a politically correct dilemma, in that in the name of love and compassion, the state must provide everything, and in essence, so should each of us, irregardless of those that don’t or won’t grow up and take responsibility for themselves and their children. I don’t understand women that will sleep with men, often children from different boyfriends that provides them with offspring, don’t marry them, so that uncle sam can provide for them, while the boyfriend at the time lives in his own house? Mothers and Fathers, you have the ultimate responsibility in being the role model for those around you. Stand up, grow up, work hard. Everyone around you is watching, making decisions on how the world works, and how they can make it, demonstrating to the next generation how to get on in the world. To each one of us, challenge yourself to be the best you can be; get the coach or team support that gets you to another rung in the ladder. By doing that, you increase the belief in yourself, and set an example for each other.

      • KNPatriot

        Rhonda,

        You are so right. I read a very interesting article yesterday about Europe vs U.S. and why U.S. citiznes are so much happier. We work hard is why! We work more hours, less vacation, wait longer to retire than our European counterparts but are much happier! Hard work is what has made our country such a wonderful place to live.

      • Cathie

        Rhonda, Can you offer your sources so that I can check on them? I do not accept without question everything that any commentator offers up, and that includes Glenn Beck. He actually asks that his listeners do their homework and come to their own conclusion–something I do appreciate. Anyway, I would greatly appeciate a list of your sources so that I can check for myself. Thanks!

        • Claire

          Cathie–Good for you. The news media is either right wing or left wing. Depends on who you want to listen to. Find the truth for yourself, and make up your own mind.

          • http://libertyalert scoobie

            HOW DO YOU KNOW WHAT IS FACT AND WHAT ISN’T WHEN YOU GO ON THE INTERNET?

          • Claire

            scoobie-The internet? Of course, when looking up any political sites, a person can tell immediately if the site is left-wing or if the site is right-wing. There are some websites that could literally scare the hell out of a person. The internet can be just like the media—biased. A person just has to try and find the source that will be the most truthful???

        • Ted Crawford

          Hi Cathie. You have the key to good decision making! May I suggest the local Library. I use the internet, primarily to get information on issues not mentioned in the main stream media, then go to the library. With the help of the Librarians, I do my own research, rather than relaying on someonelses sources!
          I know that this process is very time consuming, but I, sincerely, believe that the future welfare of our nation demands that I, indeed all of us, become acurately informed!!!
          We have,clearly and often, seen that even the Bible, when taken out of context, can be used to justify the most grievious deeds! The Library allowes that context to be maintained!!

    • Kinetic1

      This is a very interesting article, mostly because it shows that “facts” and statistics can be used to prove whatever you want.

      Let’s take a look at this map another way. If you break up the states by the amount of money paid to the federal gvt. and what they get back (per cap. 2005) you’ll find that the top 10 are mostly red. With the exception is New Mexico, which has been #1 from 1981-2005 (the chart range) all others are notably red. In fact 16 of the top 20 are significantly red (75% or better.)

      What about those who get the least? Only two, #49-Nevada and #44-Delaware are predominantly red while the rest have larger blue areas of 50% or more (#48 & 47 are about 100% blue.)

      So what’s all this about the Liberals sucking off the government teats? Tell me again about how the hard working conservatives of middle america paying the way for the rest of us?

      • http://www.kjnf.net jimmimax

        OK lets see if I can educate you in this short space, the liberals created income taxes in 1913 this is the first step toward socialism, second they the liberals create pac money, do you know where this money comes from? The tax payers, then the politicians called liberals started corporate welfare giving billions of dollars to the liberals in industry then gave these tax dollars to their buddies in congress, it took the Republicans many years to figure why the demorats had control of the congress for over forty years in order to play catch up, in other words the demorats got our money to steal the elections without Americans knowing the truth, are you learning anything? I would tell you more but if you are one of those misbegotten creatures of the left, you have my sympathies!

        • Kinetic1

          Shall we play this game? Do you really want to show what “Demorats” did, then I’ll point to the “CONservatives”? It’s a waste of time. My point was that these numbers and facts can be used to show whatever you want.

          Look, no matter which party your looking at, at one time or another they have had the upper hand. During that time someone in power looked at things like re-apportionment and soon the voting districts began to look like jigsaw puzzles. “It’s not fair to this pocket of republican voters over here!” “Well what about the Democrats in this region?”

          Perhaps you’ll recall the Texas debacle. Redistricting was done, as per law following the 2000 census. The legislature, led by the Democrats could not come to an agreement, so the job passed to the legislative redistricting board (LRB). But in 2003 when Texas voted in a Republican majority, Tom Delay pushed for another round of redistricting. Thought the law called for a review after each Census, there was no law against doing it any other time, so the Republicans took advantage of the moment. Soon they were lumping Democratic districts together to reduce their representation, and then splitting some off to create more Republican districts.

          This sort of gerrymandering has gone on for years. It’s just one more example of what’s wrong with our 2 party system. Either party, if they have enough power can show why things should be tipped in their favor. Each party has used their power to change elections in their favor. So go ahead and tell me your stories about the crimes of the “Demorats” and pretend that the Republicans were innocents in the woods. We can both turn the facts to prove we’re right.

    • Conservative at Birth

      Watch Glenn Beck, and you will gain insight into the infiltration of our Government by the Totalitarian Socialist.

      • Kinetic1

        Watch Glen Beck and you’ll get a skewed view of the world from a frightened conspiracy theorist. You’ll also get a picture of our founders that is trying to revert to the overtly religious image painted by frauds during the 2nd enlightenment. Most of what he shares about Washington comes from the same man (“Parson” Weems) who sold us the story of the cherry tree. A man who claimed to be the pastor of Mount Vernon parish, a parish that did not exist. We have learned a lot over the past 100 years. Great men have given their lives to study the truths of history and religion, but no matter how many mistakes and lies they uncover, the “faithful” continue to hold tight to their beliefs. Beck is the new leader of the faithful. Leading the way, frightening the people and lining his pockets just like the good Parson Weems.

        • Conservative at Birth

          Sounds like jealousy to me. Are you unable to listen and think? Do you read? I suggest you open your ears and mind and read some of the books that Glenn Beck has covered in his show. It is not a “Theory” that there is and has been a communist conspiracy intent on destroying this country.

          • Kinetic1

            Yes, I watch Beck and others on Fox as well as other sources. And yes, I read books form many points of view seeking truth and knowledge in all areas of life. I am not jealous of Beck, only disheartened that charlatans like him convince so many people to be afraid. Yes, there have been and will always be those who will want power. I have no doubt (and some proof) that some of those seeking power were and are communist, Marxists, etc. However, there comes a point when the realization that these people exist becomes an obsession that they are lurking around every corner and are responsible for everything that has gone wrong.

            Case in point, Beck claims that President Obama gave Brazil $20 million dollars to drill for oil, all to benefit himself and George Soros. The truth, the Export-Import bank of the US, a group who’s non partizan board was chosen by George Bush approved the loan to allow Brazil to purchase drilling equipment from US manufacturers. Obama had nothing to do with it. And Soros? Well, one of his companies does stand to make money, but they SOLD $22 million in voting shares and bought 5 million in NON-VOTING shares. They REDUCED their stake in the company! Those who listen to Beck will likely never hear about this from his show, but will continue to spread these lies to a suspicious public intent on proving that “the Kenyan in the white house” is out to get us.

          • eddie47d

            Conservative at birth; You’re crying communism when capitalism practically brought this nation down just a few years ago. Now we find out it was George Bush who made the loan to Brazil not Obama. You conservatives have alot of explaining to do in why Obama is blamed for everything.

          • http://www.kjnf.net jimmimax

            You took the words right out of my mouth, after WWII the communists were every where, in Hollywood where they are solid as a pile of crap! That is why the great Ronald Reagan left the communist I mean demorat party, Richter said that they would take over the education of our children in 1933, does that tell you anything, yes communists are here, been here and they are the misbegotten misfits from hell!

          • Buster

            A scientific theory is a WELL PROVEN statement of fact meant to describe, in concise terms, an action or set of actions. It is generally accepted to be true and universal, and can sometimes be expressed in terms of a single mathematical equation. Scientific laws are similar to mathematical postulates. They don’t really need any complex external proofs; they are accepted at face value based upon the fact that they have always been observed to be true. So atomic theory and relativity (which conservatives love because they are the basis of nuclear weapons technology) and Darwin’s Theory of Evolution are all theories. The communist conspiracy blah blah blah is a hypothesis.

          • TIME

            Buster,
            If you were only half as smart as you think you are, man you might make somethimng of yourself.

            Theory is just that its not a proven fact its a “Theory”
            Where as fact is known to be true as it has no loop holes.
            Theory is at best an opinion that has shared values amoung those who’s agenda’s may cross paths to support such rhetoric.

            Thus I have two words for you; Puma Punku,
            When you can grasp that or even explain it then you can talk.
            I have seen it with my own eyes and brough two experts to view it
            for their opinion’s of how ~ they left speachless.

            At this point the FACT that a reaction when compressed Atoms react has been proven, yet you haven’t quite grasped that its no longer a theory and now a KNOW Proven FACT.

            So you keep yourself deluded with what you have been told, rather than thinking on your own.
            And yet you talk about being a follower. Double standards seems more in line with your rhetoric. So after your finish High School let us know.

          • TIME

            Eddiee,
            Your ingrained ignorance is so outstanding that it bloody glows!

            Your a sound bite rhetoric eater, not strange as the media has made most just like you, But even with the aid of countless people here you still have your head up your butt.

            Thus again your ingrained ignorance glows. Try LSD it may open your mind some.

          • http://libertyalert scoobie

            IN REPLY TO EDDIE47, YOU HAVE GAZOOKIES(NADS)THE SIZE OF NEW YORK TO SAY NOBAMA IS BEING BLAMED FOR EVERYTHING, NOT TO LONG AGO AND EVEN RECENTLY BUSH WAS BLAMED FOR EVERYTHING.

        • JC

          Actual evidence is not a theory.

        • Kohl

          Beck may be out there but many of his guests are worth hearing…if Beck would just shut-up and let them speak for a while!

        • A Patriot

          Kenetic1–Glenn Beck reported that President Obama has slated $2 billion to be paid to the Brazilian oil company. This is money President Obama wants to give to the Brazilian Oil Company. Glenn was not talking about the $200 million President Bush gave to Brazil when they were starting their oil company. And, how do you explain all the research and facts uncovered by Beck and his team? And how do you explain the fact that if you go out and do the research you will find the same things?

          • Claire

            kinetic 1– I listen to all of them from time to time, but I certainly do not believe everything they say. In the back of my mind, I keep thinking they are “paid entertainers” and they all want to sway us to vote for their party.

          • Kinetic1

            I apologize. Did I say $20 million? I was speaking of the $2 Billion that Beck brought up. Yes, it’s the same money and yes it is coming form the Ex-Im bank who’s board was set by Bush. As for the research, I know I will find the same “facts” if I use only those sources noted by Beck and his team, which is why I look further for the truth. This information comes from the Ex-Im bank its self, so Beck is either taking advantage of the timing to suggest wrong doing by Obama, or his research team has dropped the ball again.

          • TIME

            Lacking the ability to stick one.

            If Glenn Beck had made statments that were libel he would have been sued, thus its quite obvious what he says is TRUTH.
            But you keep digging and while your at it try moveon.org I am quite sure thats about your speed, slow very very slow…….

          • Kinetic1

            Time,
            If those who were misrepresented, maligned and misquoted sued every time Beck, Hannity or Rush pulled some “facts” from their butts, the courts would have time for little else. Debunking the conspiracy theories of these talking heads requires little effort.

            As noted before, the information I provided comes from the Export-Import Bank of the US, a group whose purpose is to assist in the financing of sales of American goods and services internationally. The officials who approved this loan were not appointed by Obama, but by Bush. The only member of the board nominated by Obama is the chairman, and he was not nominated until a week AFTER the loan was given preliminary approval. Most of the Ex-Im banks financing comes from loan guarantees made by commercial lenders, not tax dollars. They do not answer to the president or the congress, so there was no need for Obama to “sign an order” to loan this money.

            Want more? If you’d like I can post the letter written by Chairman Hochberg to the Wall Street Journal.

            The point is, Beck and the rest are paid attack dogs doing their part to push a conservative agenda. They make millions feeding hate and lies to a public looking for validation of their worst fears and suspicions. There are few occasions where quoting Beck will help you prevail in an argument, and this is not one of those few.

      • truesoy

        Watch G. Beck and you will find out why the earth could not possibly be round. He’ll show you how this is an anti-american conspiracy to make our children dumb. And, there, the flat earth society will be reborn!

    • Hugh Jordan

      True, but also keep reactionary forces like the Texas School Board from teaching myth as fact, and pushing religious fundamentalism into pure science. Their reconstruction of history is as dangerous as Holocaust deniers. This will even further hinder our children’s education.

      • A Patriot

        You badly need to read the Constitution, the Bill of Rights and the Federalist Papers because you truly do not understand the history of how our Country became to be. You actually sound really ignorant about it which tells me you were educated in the public school system–because they don’t teach the real history. Go back to the original documents to find the truth in our history.

        • Hugh Jordan

          You could use a re-read yourself.

          Do you still believe the world is flat? the moon is made of green cheese? the tooth fairly is real? the Easter Bunny brings candy? Sarah Palin is intelligent?

          The Texas school board is as dangerous in their promotion of ignorance as the Taliban. … different message, same mentality. Control morality by myth.

          • http://libertyalert scoobie

            DOES NOBAMA STILL THINK THERE ARE 57 STATES IN THE UNITED STATES?

    • American Citizen

      Start with your school boards.

  • http://donthaveone Beberoni

    I heard today also, that Obama now names Harold Hurtt as his Immigration Chief, despite this guy being an outspoken opponent of Immigration Enforcement, and his policies have directly enabled illigal aliens to kill two Phoenix policemen. When does it stop with these stupid anti American moves by this administration. Are they not going to quit until someone goes in there and drags them out? This is just rediculous.

  • valricoslash

    Great article. I promise to do my best to turn a few Obamainaics around for the next two elections so that Republicans can win back both the House and the Senate including some weak-kneed Republicans which we hope to get rid of in the primaries. “Throw out the trash” day is coming November 2nd and no one is safe in Washington. It is time we send the career politicians a message that their retirement is just around the corner. My wish list includes:
    -Immigration reform
    –Secure the border 100%
    –Make it impossible for illegals to get jobs by going after the people who hire them with SUBSTANTIAL fines and not a slap on the wrist.
    –Do away with the anchor baby rule. At least one parent must be an American citizen.
    - Repeal the new Healthcare law and replace it with something that actually wil work and not bankrupt the country.
    - Cut government employment by 50% over the next 5 years (10%/year) starting with the EPA, Dept of Education, Dept of H-E-W.
    - Do away with congressional retirement. They don’t need to stay so long that they can retire.

    Before each session of congress (on the very first day), in a mandatory joint session along with the President and cabinet, require the reading out loud of the entire constitution (emphasizing the Bill of Rights) and when done, make all present stand up and swear to protect and defend what they just heard. This ssesson should be done in prime time and shown on every network just like the State of the Union speech.

    • BigBadJohn

      I agree with most of your wish list. However, it was the republicans that caused most of the mess that we are in now, I do not agree that we should put them back in power.

      Republicans are responcible for:
      - approximately 75% of the national debt
      - for deregulating the banks
      - Suspending Habiuss Corpus
      - spying on all Americans
      - Killing workplace enforcement of illegal aliens
      - killing funding for regulatory agencies including oil companies
      - etc etc…..

      Give me a THIRD choice!

      • Chrstin

        Vote for all CONSTITUTIONAL CONSERVATIVES… they are probably Jim DeMint Conservative Comeback and Tea Party endorsed candidates. Those candidates WILL follow the Constitutional Rule of Law… limited government and spending, greater freedoms and liberties.

        • Claire

          Chrstin–Isn’t Fox News involved with the tea parties?

      • Conservative at Birth

        How do you come to the conclusion that Republicans are responsible for 75 % of our debt? Correct me if I am wrong, but the Democrats have controlled both houses of the legislature since the 1940′s. It is the legislature that passes budgets and controls spending, not the President. This includes the time that Eisenhower, Nixon, Ford, Reagan, G.H.W. Bush, and since 2006 G.W. Bush were President. The Republicans gained control of the legislature in 1994 through 2006. You need to check your facts before making such outlandish claims. I think the Republicans (many of them RINOS) lost their way around 2000. Still, I believe they are the part of fiscal conservatism. Don’t look for some miracle third part. Get involved at the grass roots level and commucicate with those you choose to put in office.

        • A Patriot

          Oh my God, there is someone sane here!!! Thank you, thank you, thank you. I am so tired of hearing the liberals say that it was Bill Clinton that was fiscally responsible. The only reason we were able to turn around the economy after 1994 was because the Republicans gained the majority in the House and Senate and Bill Clinton’s hands were tied–he had to go along with it, he had no choice. I find it interesting and amazing that Bill Clinton gets all the credit when in actuality he had nothing to do with it.

        • eddie47d

          Conservatives rail against NAFTA now because it takes away American jobs. When in the 90′s they supported it and wanted a free and open market. The Unions did not support NAFTA and saw the writing on the wall but nobody listened. Many conservative ideas shaft the working Americans.

          • JC

            I don’t think anyone outside the beltway, except maybe the corporations involved actually supported NAFTA.
            Why would we need a manual 3 inches thick explaining free trade anyway? Because it isn’t actually free trade, its corporatism legalized and both sides ok’d it.

      • http://PersonalLibertyDigest Thomas the Citizen

        I agree with you about the ‘party thing’ John. There are conservatives out there who want to bring our country back to sanity. The map above shows who gets free money from the gov’t and who pays it — period!!! To re-elect democrats is to give amnesty to 15 million illegals — can you imagine how much tax money will be necessary to take care of these people???? obummer was smart getting out votes from those who had never voted before and intimidation at the voting booths. If he gets elected again we are doomed!!!!

      • http://www.kjnf.net jimmimax

        Wrong, the democrats created deficit spending and pushed the envelope to the highest its been, and Obama has just sent the deficit to new hieghts by out spending all presidents from Washington to Bush. It was Clinton who create deep sea drilling for oil not Bush, and it was Clinton who took the national defict to 5.85 trillion dollars from when he came to office from 850 billion dollars, you need to stop reading the New York Times.

        • eddie47d

          All the conservatives on this site say Obama created the drilling in the Gulf. Are they wrong about that too?

          • Claire

            This rig was built in 2001. Built by a bunch of jackasses and operated by a bunch of jackasses. Plus jackass government people that did not do their jobs correctly. Oh I forgot, they needed campaign money. They all sicken me.

          • JC

            eddie, I have seen not one conservative claiming “Obama created the drilling in the gulf”. Not one. And why would they? It is well known that this has been going on for years, probably while the Kenyan was still learning how to be a junior community organizer.

      • Joe

        Republicans aren’t perfect, but what they are supposed to stand for is. 50% of republicans are corrupt, but 100% of democrats are corrupt. What democrats stand for is is totally wrong, like spreading wealth evenly. Do you like to work your butt off while some lazy non-worker lives off the fruit of your labor? Wouldn’t you rather have that 6.2% social security tax invested into your own personal 401k or IRA instead of into a government slush fund called social security. If the money was actually put into social security rather than in the pockets of the politicians, social security would not be a bad program.

        • Claire

          Joe–Social Security was a good program when it started out. However, the politicians couldn’t keep their theiving hands out of it. They kept literally stealing this money and spending it for their so-called agendas and never put the money back. The government does have tendency to “ruin” anything that is good for America.

      • American Citizen

        Baloney. The national debt just keeps rising with every president. Every president inherits one. Obama has tripled it and he hasn’t stopped yet.

    • eddie47d

      Will Corporations have to take an oath and recite the Bill of Rights?

      • Claire

        I’ll tell you one thing. It wouldn’t hurt one dang bit to have all elected politicians pass a test on the Constitution and the Bill of Rights. Same with the Supreme Court. If they fail, they are out!!!!
        The only problem with this is that the person conducting the tests would have to be honest, and where in the world would we get an honest person?

        • American Citizen

          Diogenese.

          • Claire

            American Citizen–Diogenes was looking for an honest man, too.

      • JC

        Better yet….end corporate lobbying altogether and get the government right out of industry. Put laws of justice in place instead.

        • Claire

          JC–In this last presidential election, we were promised “No more lobbying.” Guess what? Now we have even more lobbying. The Democrats and the Republicans will NOT do away with the lobbyists. They need campaign money. That is ALL politicians care about.

          • JC

            It’s called riding the gravy train Claire. It’s why they are there.

          • Claire

            JC–I know. Gravy train–appropriate words. The government will always be corrupt. it doesn’t matter who is in office. Democrats or Republicans–so alike in many ways when you really stop and think about it.

          • JC

            And that’s why we need “Statesmen” who represent us, not Politicians who regulate us. Think about it, why would someone spend 20 million dollars to get a job that pays 500K a year? Must have one hell of a dental plan.

    • bp

      GREAT wish list, valricoslash! May I add the Departments of Transportation, Energy and IRS? All assets will be sold towards the national debt. And the immediate suspension of any further immigration until we get our economic house in order (that is bring down our unemployment to at least 5% and abolish all taxes except ONE 10% sales tax) unless the immigrant can prove full financial independence (which Australia already does)!!! Also, all illegal resident aliens be driven to the border without any benefits, after processing documentation, with the understanding they will have a MANDATORY five year prison sentence if they return anytime in their future. Most importantly, build a double fence topped with razor wire, booby trapped in between with explosives and warning signs in ENGLISH only, complete with armed guard towers every mile or so. As for the legislature; all pay will immediately be suspended and they will be expected to actually serve voluntarily; this will end all corruption. It is absolute insanity to give this branch complete control of our money and their own pay raises. That ought to do it.

    • http://www.lubedealer.com/Partsmans-Site Glen

      Until we start jailing people who lie to get others to vote for their
      pick, we will continue to have problems. An example of this …. an old lady who rents her house in the city I work in was told by the people who proved her transportation to the voting site that if she voted for their man that her rent would be taken care of when he won the election. I doubt our present president knew or planned to help her but it says nothing good for the type of people attracted to his ideals.
      We have too many people who act like the sargent in Hogan’s Heroes. Instead of doing their duty as citizens they pretend everything is fine. That attitude will destroy this country.

    • http://libertyalert scoobie

      AMEN. MAKE THEM ACCOUNTABLE FOR THEIR ACTIONS, MAYBE ADD IN THERE THAT CONGRESS AND THE SENATE WILL NOT ENACT ANY LAW THAT DOES NOT ALSO PERTAIN TO THEM. MAYBE THE 28TH AMENDMENT TO THE CONSTITUTION.

  • John

    If strings were attached to some of the so called entitlements that the democrats love to hand out, I think more parity would be seen between the voters. If people were expected to work for handouts a dramatic drop in greed loyalty would be enjoyed.

    • Dan Burke

      But the strings are already there. The only problem is, we may see them but our neighbors seem to refuse to open their eyes, or even if their eyes are open, they refuse to accept or confront the problem. Sure seems to be a lot of dodging to step over and around those strings. Some strings come with the price of changing our way of thinking. I hear “charitable conservatives” and my definition is so far different than what I read. My definition: private charity and private welfare (they did exist before government took over the market in welfare). Common definition today: government charity amd government welfare. Oh, I so wanted to cry and scream when I read an article that we need a resurgence in charitable conservatives in public office and then they defined it. When I read their definition, I wanted to say, “that IS the thinking of progressives! Sure, some of them we do not trust and are inclined to believe they are out to conquer America, but most of those led along by their rhetoric actually are people who care about their neighbor, the sick, the afflicted, and the less fortunate. The problem isn’t that they care. The problem is that the path they are pursuing does not include freedom in the end and quite often fails to help those they claim to care about.” I am all for charitable conservatives. But I don’t want government charity when I lose my job, my home, and my food. I want private charity.

      So while some strings come in the altering our way of thinking as a people, other strings come with prices not yet due. For example, as those of us who actually ponder where the future is and look to the past all around us to consider the price for our choices as a nation, we see that those who are getting this “free” money WILL have to work for it in the end. It will not be free in the final reckoning. Except the cost will be far higher then as opposed to what it is now. The end cost is that they will NOT have the choice to work or not work when the bill comes due. There will be no more OTHERS to pay for their wants and needs. EVERYONE will be poor, except the elites who control it all (the politicians who sell us the idea of the communal goodness). You will be told to work and you will HAVE to work, or become an enemy of the state that once sold you the FREE handouts. You will work the job government tells to work. You will do it for the wages government tells you can have. You will get the benefits that government tells you are entitled to when they tell you are entitled to them (waiting lists anyone?). By the way, isn’t it interesting that government has been passing bills that gives our President the potential power into businesses such that this could be reality so much so that businesses could be private businesses in name only. Power into our banks. The potential to evaluate and control our wages/compensation. Power into our loans. Isn’t that so very interesting? Those of us willing to look could see the strings. And now it looks like the framework is going into place. The only question now is how soon until the framework becomes a real nightmare machine turned on and oppressing those who once turned to government for all they perceived government should control and give them. Will it be our current Democrat controlled government? Will it be a Republican government after this? Or will the basic government we have now collapse but because we already had these policies they will be key ingredients in a new government that rises from the ashes (and we will accept them because it is just the next “logical” step from what we already had)?

      • Ted Crawford

        Hi Dan. Isn’t it interesting that many who try and convince us that government largess is “The Christian” thing to do, appearently haven’t read the Bible?? The book I read,clearly, mandates the care of the sick and needy to the Church, spacificly “the widows and orphans”, and to us as individuals!!
        I do believe that Christ, clearly, stated “My Kingdom is NO part of this world”! He also declared we should “Render onto Ceasar, that which is Ceasars’, and to God that which is Gods’”! Seems he says to pay the taxes AND care for the needy on an indiviual basis!! It’s very clear he didn’t intend that the two be tied together!!

        • American Citizen

          You’re right, forced charity is not charity just as forced belief is not real faith.

  • J.M.R.

    the libs can’t pass a bill that free of billions of dollars in hand outs. we are right we need to stand together and take the trash out in 2010 and 2012, if the big pile of shit hasn’t found a way to stop us.

    • BigBadJohn

      Sorry but the problem is not just with libs, republicans did a fine job of growing pork when they had all of the power, they almost doubled it in 2000′s:

      1993 Bill Clinton 1,712 $6.6 Billion
      1994 Bill Clinton 1,318 $7.8 Billion
      1995 Bill Clinton 1,439 $10 Billion
      1996 Bill Clinton 958 $12.5 Billion
      1997 Bill Clinton 1,596 $14.5 Billion
      1998 Bill Clinton 2,143 $13.2 Billion
      1999 Bill Clinton 2,838 $12 Billion
      2000 Bill Clinton 4,326 $17.7 Billion
      Total projects 16,330 Cost to taxpayers $94.3 Billion

      2001 George W Bush 6,333 $18.5 Billion
      2002 George W Bush 8,341 $20.1 Billion
      2003 George W Bush 9,362 $22.5 Billion
      2004 George W Bush 10,656 $22.9 Billion
      2005 George W Bush 13,997 $27.3 Billion
      2006 George W Bush 9,963 $29 Billion
      2007 George W Bush 2,658 $13.2 Billion
      2008 George W Bush 11,610 $17.2 Billion
      Total projects 72,920 Cost to taxpayers $170.7 Billion

      • WarriorH

        So it must be ok to even surpass Bush’s deficit spending? Sorry, there is no rational justification for this spending spree. You should research what Gov Cristy is undertaking in New Jersey.

        • pappy

          People in new jersey are already sorry for their mistake

          • http://www.kjnf.net jimmimax

            The same people said the same thing when prop 13 passed, we the people means we the people not the politicians, and as far as New Jersey the people voted for a responsible leader, John Corzine was running people out of New Jersey with excessive taxation, in case you never heard this because you sound like one of those left wing zombies “Taxation is the most subtle from of slavery ever designed by man to enslave man to man”! Guess who created the National ta=x system we enjoy at the expense of productive people? Can you say democrat?

          • WarriorH

            Are you referring to the Union people and the other trough sucklings?

          • KPL

            None of the people I know are upset about Christie. They all love Christie, even the fools who didn’t vote for him. The only haters are teacher unions and welfare queens. As someone who’s lived in Jersey for over 35 years, I say, it’s about damn time we got a real winner and not all these losers in a long line of losers.

        • Todd from TX

          Well what they fail to say about Bush during his post that 911 happened and our nations security became very important. It costs lots of money to win a war. And it costs even more to hamper it with putting restrictions on the battle field. Heck the big reason they aren’t getting that far now is because they don’t have ammo on the ground for our troops. They have to kill the enemy and take their weapons and ammo so they can continue to fight on the ground there. Plus making a war politial card wasn’t that what happened during nam… look what that got us. I just hope we don’t let that happen to our troops.

          • Kinetic1

            Yes, it costs a lot to run a war (or two), but Bush kept those numbers out of the budget. We didn’t need to ramp up our defense spending like that. Bush was looking for ways to fix his mistakes and everyone knows that a war is a great way to get people working, right? So you invade a country that was not involved, you hire private companies to do the work of the military. Since they are friends of yours you pay them 30 times (or more) what it would cost to have your military do the job. You disenfranchise your soldiers by making them work along side your private soldiers earning 3,4 even 5 times more pay, while you crow about your commitment to “our brave young men and women.” You talk about listening to you leaders in the field, but when they disagree with you you fire them, one after another after another.

            In the mean time, you deregulate business, oversee corruption in the banking, housing and energy industries. You spend and spend on your useless war (useless unless you are an oil or defense company) running the country into the ground. You suggest bail outs for the home auto industry, but hold off to let the next administration take the hit. You insist that we give the banks billions of dollars “or they will fail tomorrow!” And then you pass your whole mess on to the next administration.

      • MichelleO

        and Obama TRIPLED that of POS Communist George W Bush

        • BigBadJohn

          please show me some facts to support your fairy tale belief….

          The deficit for 2008 was 1.5 trillion – George Bush
          the deficit for 2009 was 1.8 trillion.- Obama

          not anywhere close to tripling it.

          • Conservative at Birth

            Not True, Defict for 2008 was $ 480B. Obama increased it to $ 1.4 Trillion.

          • Kinetic1

            It’s important to remember that the budget begins in October, so much of the “2009″ deficit was set into play under the Bush administration. Also not that the Bush administration had a habit of leaving things out of the budget. Cost of war? We’ll ask for that later. Disaster funds? Why put it in the budget until we have a disaster? Money for the bank bailout? We aren’t asking for it yet, and if we need it we’ll find a way to pay for it then. Oh, and don’t forget “borrowing” $500 billion from Social Security to help pay for his tax cuts. I hate to see the deficit so high, but at least I know that things like defense spending for the war won’t be snuck in later.

            And while we’re talking about deficits, why was it that under Reagan the rising deficit was “nothing to be concerned about.” I recall Rush spouting off about the simple minded Democrat’s fear of a rising deficit. Now it’s the worst news ever! Which is it, my Republican friends?

          • Allan

            Not true. This figure includes money that was paid back, leaving an actual deficit of under $500 billion.

        • http://www.kjnf.net jimmimax

          You need to get your facts straight Obama is the communist

        • http://libertyalert scoobie

          AMEN HOW MANY TIMES CAN THEY BLAME BUSH, MAYBE NEXT 20 YEARS?

      • GrammyBoomFire

        From what I can see from your numbers…….Clinton almost tripled the debt from when he went in office …1993 6.6 to 2000 17.7 ..Bush on the other hand went in at 18.5 and ended at 17.2 ..and yes there was some large expenditures inbetween LIKE A WAR to fund ….What was Clinton’s excuse ????? I am no Bush fan …..but at least he let the TERRIORISTS and the world know America would not tolerate their cowardly acts ….. This THING in office now is apologizing to people who want to wipe us off the map ?????? and take money from those that are working to give to those who won’t ????? PLEASE get real people !!!!!! This is the most AMORAL administration and congress todate ….. My grandchildren have nothing to look forward to following this debauchery !!!!! I guess they could go into massage therapy …eh ??

        • eddie47d

          beating up on a nation that had nothing to do with 9/11 is an act of cowardice and George Bush committed that act.

          • JC

            eddie, the people we’re told committed the attacks on 9/11 were almost exclusively Saudi Arabian. So naturally we invade Iraq and Afghanistan. You can’t expect us to go after terrorists in Saudi Arabia, can you? They’re our “friends”…friendly to US Interests.
            And besides, what’s that Iraqi sand doing on top of our oil anyway?

            We need to stop policing the world. Maybe we would earn back some of the respect we once held, rather than the contempt that is so openly apparent.

            We need to get back to the Constitution of the United States of America. And the momentum for that won’t be found in the red camp or the blue camp.

          • http://libertyalert scoobie

            SADAM HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH TERRORISTS? WHAT A JOKE!

      • bp

        BigBadJohn; You’re bad, alright! The biggest spender of all currently resides in the White House. He deals in TRILLIONS. One trillion is a million million!! Wrap your mind around that!

      • American Citizen

        Under Obama it’s now in the trillions.

  • Norm

    If you go by states, not counties, you see the true picture.

    http://voices.washingtonpost.com/ezra-klein/2010/04/the_red_state_ripoff.html

    • HFlashman

      Interesting map and facts. Pesky facts for the Right…

    • WarriorH

      If you delve a little deeper you’ll discover that the blue areas also have higher per capita inclome and ALSO are prone to higher tax rates.

      • Norm

        WarriorH
        The blue states generally have better schools, higher incomes(and taxes), and a better standard of living. And they pay their own way and subsidize the red states. Ironic isn’t it?

        • WarriorH

          Are you referring to public schools or private?

  • Richard L

    Now you know why it was so significant when Obaama appointed Rahm Emanuel to head the Census bureau. Another way of controlling the Electorial Vote

  • Norm
    • http://www.kjnf.net jimmimax

      and of course the left wing liberal progressive socialist communists never lie.

      • Claire

        I suggest everyone take the time and check out each politician and see where their campaign donations came from.

      • Norm

        jimmimax
        Is there some intelligence in your statement?

      • http://libertyalert scoobie

        NEVER, HAHA. THEY INVENTED THE WORD LIE.

  • Frank Graham

    There is a reason why the president is dragging his feet on closing the border. It is in the DEMOCRATS best interest to keep the border open as long as possible. Their goal is AMNESTY LEGISLATION. THIS IS ALL ABOUT BUILDING UP THE DEMOCRATS VOTER BASE. If this is aloud to happen THE, MONEY TREE WILL FLOURISH, AND YOU AND I WILL HAVE NO CONTROL OVER THE WATERING OF IT!
    This is a COMMUNIST trick called SOCIALISM. The idea is to give something to everyone and to make sure that no one has too much. In short, to spread the WEALTH around. DOSE THIS SOUND FAMILIAR TO ANYONE?

    • Christin

      Yes, I agree that the demos are and have left the borders unprotected and open to build up their voting block base. If only the illegals knew they were being used.

      If the progressives succeed they may keep “We the People’s” income low and not allow us to attain wealth and the Ameican Dream, but “The (wealthy) Elite” will have all they want while we are serfs for their Anti-American policies. Your term “no one” only applies to the people, not the Elite.

    • http://www.kjnf.net jimmimax

      Brilliant, to bad those left wingers who support the democrats cannot see beyond their nose, I believe that Winston Churchill said it best, “Capitalism is the unequalled distribution of wealth, socialism is the equal distribution of poverty, and communism is socialism with a gun at your head”! Think Castro, he loves to kill people.

      • eddie47d

        Castro didn’t kill even a small % of who we killed in Iraq or Vietnam or our Central American wars.So if Castro is evil (he was a dictator) then the U.S. must be a much worse dictatorship with all the bodies we’ve piled up.

        • Allan

          Sounds like you’d prefer life in Cuba under Castro.

          • eddie47d

            No, alittle more truth.

        • American Citizen

          These were wars to liberate people, unlike Castro who has subjugated the people. We didn’t stay and force our government on any of them. Iraq is still in flux and Afghanistan is unwinnable. The Russians tried for 17 years. As to the Patriot Act, I don’t feel threatened by it. I’m not in contact with any terrorists.

          • Claire

            American Citizen–I am glad I read your post, I do not feel threatened by the Patriot act either. The only terrorists I am involved with right now is the Japanese Beetles. They are eating my flowers. lol I better get to bed, I get goofy when I am tired.

    • http://libertyalert scoobie

      MARXISM

  • s c

    For those who aren’t programmed to serve false masters, this all but proves the idea that people who parrot a ‘soak the rich’ mantra will say, do and promise ANYTHING. This isn’t just coerced democracy it is CLASS WARFARE, compliments of Lenin and Marx.
    In the addled utopian communist mind, this is ‘social justice.’ In the REAL world, this is blatant theft and enforced slavery. Progressives have willingly set up their parasitic base to bear the brunt of the wrath of those who will no longer tolerate political insanity.
    Let those who created this situation be seen as traitors and fifth columnists who deserve whatever happens. ‘Let the ends justify the means’ works BOTH ways. That is social justice that will rid America of lower life forms (elected and otherwise) who happily confuse slavery with social justice.

    • eddie47d

      You’ve allowed Capitalism to run amuck for too many years. Corporate thieves have stolen from America for too long now and we will not worship at their dirty feet any longer.When they change I will gladly support them. You supported and turned a blind eye to what they did to this country. Does that make you a traitor? Does that make you a lower life form for their years of tax evasion,sending jobs over seas,unfathomable greed,favoring illegals over American workers. So this can and does work both ways. Social Justice is not a dirty word unless some talking head on TV told you that it is evil. I do know how un-American and evil some corporations can be. So the spin on both sides are pushing us off the cliff.

      • JC

        eddie, I think your confusing Capitalism with Corporatism or maybe Mercantilism. They’re pretty much the same thing anyway and they’ve been here since Hamilton.
        We’ve never actually seen pure capitalism at work in America…unless you’re thinking about what the government itself is doing…

      • American Citizen

        Who do you work for, the government?

  • J-M Bergman

    The blue parts seem to harbor most reputable universities. Red looks like rednecks and blue like high IQ to me.

    • http://alex110539@yahoo.com alex ,sandiego

      you mean like obama?

    • gary

      You are correct Bergman. I.Q.= Indecent queer

      • Karolyn

        What an ass you are – disclosing your prejudice. I feel sorry for you having so much hate and anger inside. I hope you’re not a wife-beater.

    • WarriorH

      I live in a Dark Blue area and it sure seems that Blue = theft. Even amongst those “High IQ Types”. One may surmise that some prominent blue areas are run by career criminals. OF course, these wouldn’t be politicians because few consider they have high IQ’s.

      • Jim H.

        WarriorH, Would that DARK BLUE area be Crook County? Those guys can tell you how they understand how bad the economy is for you and in the same breath propose another tax hike. I’m 40 miles west of there in Kane county so I see those clowns in the news every day.

        • WarriorH

          Correcto – Mundo!

    • JC

      A Higher IQ? Does that explain all those lofty socialist ideas that don’t work?
      Maybe some of them should have majored in simple mathematics or history.

    • kenny

      j-m bergman you have a problem with white people sounds like a racist to me

    • Roger

      Hi J-M

      Universities do attract people with high IQs. However, I submit for your consideration that high IQ and common sense are two different things, as evidenced in many political and professional types who are lacking in common sense. I’ve lived in red states and in blue states and am acquainted with many professors, bureaucrats and rednecks. It’s the rednecks who are more likely to know which end is up and, more significantly for this discussion, to know when they’ve been had. Also, rednecks are more adept at solving problems than in creating them, and the converse is also generally true; that is, “brilliant” people are quite adept at creating problems but not very good in solving them.

      • Norm

        Roger
        You are obviously a red neck.
        Your notion that people with lower IQ’s are better at solving problems is puzzling. Using your reasoning apes should be even better at it.

        • Allan

          What he is saying is they have enough smarts to figure out the solution, and the common sense and character to more successfully implement it.

        • American Citizen

          Rednecks don’t depend on the government when a disaster strikes. They work together to get things done. Look at New Orleans after Katrina, all the whining about how the government didn’t get there fast enough even though they had 3 days warning to prepare for the hurricane and to get out. The local and state government were at fault there.

        • JC

          I’ve seen farmer’s (most) with a hell of a lot more sense than a socialist with a Poli-Sci degree.
          Obviously some in the Ivy League are getting brain washed right out of reality.

        • http://libertyalert scoobie

          I DON’T KNOW ARE YOU?

    • http://GOGGLE vaksal

      to: JM BERGMAN,OH YES I LOOK AT WHAT ALL THE EDUCATED,SELF SERVING ENLIGHTEN ONES HAVE DONE TO THIS NATION,( NAFTA) THE BIGGEST ECONOMY IN THE WORLD GIVEN AWAY BYE OUR ALL SO SMART ONES ,HIGHLY EDUCATED,THEN THE WALL STREET FASCO,PAYING OFF THE BILLS OF A BUNCH OF HIGHLY EDUCATED CROOKS,WHITE COLLAR,NO DOUBT UNIVERSITY EDUCATED,PERSONALY I WAS A FARM KID,WHEN I WAS YOUNGER,NOT VERY SMART,BUT RAISED TWO DAUGHTERS WITH HELP,OH AND SOMETHING I NEVER POSTED,AN AMERICAN PATENT HOLDER TWICE,INTERNATIONAL PATENTS,AND CO-HOLDER OF 4 FOREIGN PATENTS,THE POINT,BIG DEAL,WHAT GOOD IS A GREAT EDUCATION,IF YOU DONT PUT IT TO GOOD USE,LOOK AT THE NATION,TOTALY DESTROYED BY ALL YOU MASTERS OF THE UNIVERSE ( THE ENLIGHTEN ONES,LIKE I SAID ,AT LEAST I AM VERY PROUD OF HAVING BEEN RAISED ON BASIC AMERICAN VALUES,AND LEARN MANNERS WHEN TALKING TOO PEOPLE AND AT LEAST I NEVER PUT MY NOSE IN THE AIR,BECAUSE I HAD MORE EDUCATION THEN MY FELLOW COUNTRY MEN AND WOMEN,I WISH TO ASK YOU THIS WHAT GOOD HAS ALL THIS GREAT WISDOM THAT YOU POSTED,HAVE TO DO WITH COMMON SENSE? LOOK AT THE FACTS SIMPLE PEOPLE BUILT THIS NATION,WHILE THE EDUCATED FEW HAVE DESTROYED IT.LIKE I SAID THE WHITE COLLARED,LIBERAL COMMUNIST BUNCH,WITH THE BIG DREAMS OF DISNEYLAND AND THE PERFECT RULING EDUCATED ELITE.BIG DEAL ,JUST AN OLDER AMERICAN,LOOKING AT WHAT PEOPLE LIKE YOURSELF HAVE DONE,TO BUTTER YOUR OWN BREAD,BYE THE WAY MY BROTHER IS A RED NECK GEORGIAN,AND 100 TIMES SMARTER THAN PEOPLE,LIKE YOURSELF,WHY? HE HAS NO VISIONS OF BEING BETTER THAN ANYONE ELSE,AND WHEN YOU GREAT ONES TURN INTO DUST,PEOPLE LIKE HIM,WORKING FOLKS,WILL STILL BE HERE,SO GIVE IT SOME THOUGHT OH MIGHTY ONE,I SAY THINK ABOUT IT,WE OWE ALL WE HAVE TO EVERY PERSON THAT EVER WORKED TO MAKE THIS NATION GREAT, THE RICH AND THE WORKING POOR,YES AMERICANS IN NAME,NOT THE EDUCATED FEW THAT INCLUDES MY SELF.

  • Zette

    You said “45 percent of adults in America pay no income taxes at all.”

    Last year it was “spouted” out all over the place at 50 something percent. Where does this number come from? I tried to find the original source last year (5?%) and now this year (45%). I would really like to know, because as poor as my hubby and I have been we have NEVER gotten back more than we paid in, in federal income tax.

    Also, the link to the other 2 maps, was that before or after Louisiana got funds for recovery from Katrina and Rita? Just curious.

    • Jim

      You say that you never “got back more than you paid in”. But IF you received a refund of all that you paid in, then you paid NO income tax. So if during the year you had $2500.00 in taxes withheld from your pay check and you got a $2500.00 refund when you filed your taxes, you paid NONE.

      And IF you are “butt poor” as you put it, then you probably claimed the Earned Income Tax Credit. I think it’s called Advanced EIC now in which case you actually have the government pay you for being poor.

      • http://libertyalert scoobie

        BUT IF WE PAID IN $2500.00 AND GOT BACK $2500.00 DIDN’T WE PAY TAXES IN THE AMOUNT THAT WE WOULD HAVE GOTTEN IN INTEREST ON THAT AMOUNT, WHICH THE GOVERNMENT HAD TO USE AS THEY WANTED

  • Wiliam J. Cunningham

    I couldn’t have summarized this sitation any better. We need “to clean house,” and get rid of the “old guard” in Washington. Our president, sad to say, does not understand, or want to understand, his role, and he has had the experience to qualify him for his position. We still do not know if he is an Amercian Ciitizen. He certainly does not act like an American. He does not follow our American traditions, and he does not carry out the will of the American people.

    • A Patriot

      From what I have learned Obama was not raised in the US. The majority of his life was out of the country. and, while he was growing up he was exposed to Socialism by his parents, grandparents and their associates–even his mentor was a Socialist. He does not understand the American culture because he wasn’t raised in it. It befuddles me how he can be a constitutional lawyer and truly not understand the constitution. when he made the statement that the constitution is a document of negative powers and he thinks that is bad–that tells me he doesn’t understand the constitution or our way of life–freedom and “we the people.” He’s definitely an outsider.

      • eddie47d

        Maybe he understand it better than you think. I also think any President can’t ignore his opponents although all do. Both Parties have big egos.

      • Norm

        A Patriot
        Maybe you are the outsider. People have different interpretations of the Constitution. Like religion, there are many points of view. Yours may not be the best.

        • Average Joe

          Norm,
          People have different interpretations of the Constitution.

          The only interpretation that matters is the framers original intent. The only way to get that is by reading something other than just the document itself….such as the Federalist Papers, letters written between the original architects of the document etc. Your interpretation and my interpretation doesn’t matter….ORIGINAL INTENT is all that matters.
          The Constitution is a contract between the government and the people,laying out rules….that the government agreed to abide by. The Constitution was written to keep the government within certain constraints…it says what the government can and cannot do (nothing more, nothing less).Of course the government will try to interpret it in a way that lets them get around the rules that they are bound by under said contract….
          In case you don’t know the Constitution is all about what the government can and cannot do…..not about what the people can and cannot do…..brush up on it a bit please.

          • American Citizen

            Methinks that’s why Obama studied the Constitution, so he can work his way around it. He considers it a living document. That’s a good way for us to lose our freedoms.

      • http://libertyalert scoobie

        IT’S CALLED COMMUNIST!

  • Abisola

    The latest news I heard is that the Mexican drug Cartel is threatening the Arizona Law enforcement personnel while our dear leader refuses to send the National Guards to the Border. And I am sure that when he finally sends them, it will be purely cosmetic and the rules of engagement will be restrictive. But the good news is, we still have the second amendment in this country and the American populace, as docile as it may appear, will protect itself when threatened. The Cartel is accustomed to pushing the Mexicans people and government around and our government may have given the impression that they can do the same to us. They don’t know who we are but I think they are about to find out. WAY TO GO ARIZONA!!!

    SO, TO ALL YOU FREEDOM LOVING AMERICANS OUT THERE, I AM VERY PROUD OF YOU ALL. I AM PROUD OF GRANNIES WITH THEIR HOME-MADE SIGNS; I AM PROUD OF HARD WORKING AMERICANS WHO TOOK TIME OFF WORK TO DEMONSTRATE IN WASHINGTON; THE LIBERAL PRESS CONTENDS THAT YOU ARE A DANGEROUS ELEMENTS OF SOCIETY. YOU ARE DANGEROUS ALRIGHT – YOU ARE INFORMED, YOU ARE ENGAGED, YOU DON’T NEED A UNION LEADER TO BUS YOU THERE AND TELL YOU WHAT TO SAY, YOUR SHEER NUMBER AND ENTHUSIASM TOOK THEM OFF GUARD,YOU ARE ON TO THEM!

    Keep up the good work. GOD BLESS YOU ALL!

    • pappy

      The Ten Commandments of Conservatives.

      I. Thou shalt talk about Christian principles, but not live by them

      II. Thou shalt attack opponents personally when you can’t win on policies

      III. Thou shalt call yourself pro-life, but be in favor of the death penalty

      IV. Thou shalt call yourself pro-life, and put guns in the hands of school children

      V. Thou shalt give lip service to democracy while taking away civil liberties

      VI. Profit is the Lord Thy God, thou shalt not put the people’s interest above those of your corporate contributors

      VII. Thou shalt make sure fetuses have health coverage, but leave children and babies behind(If the shoe fits wear it!)

      VIII Thou shalt bear false witness against your opponents and liberals, and demonize them**

      IX. Thou shalt run on a moderate platform, then enact right-wing policies as soon as possible

      X. Thou shalt call the media liberal, so that people forget that the media is owned by corporations with a conservative fiscal agenda

      • Tommie Walker

        You, my fellow american, are truely “delusional”!!

      • KNPatriot

        You are truly a disgusting individual. That is so outrageous and so far from the truth. You should be ashamed instead of proud of your “creative” abilities.

        • Norm

          KNPatriot
          What part didn’t you agree with? All I see is insults and name calling without substance. Typical right wing nut thinking.

          • American Citizen

            Because most of it is not true. It’s more the way liberals think and do.

      • JC

        What color is the sky on your planet?
        Typical Aklinsky tactics using an accusatory reversal of truth.

        • eddie47d

          Someone earlier said that gays are preditors and should be kept away from children Few gays are preditors so is that your “alinsky ‘ way of thinking?

          • JC

            Nope. I couldn’t care less what consenting adults do. But touch a child and I’ll cheerfully blow your head off.

          • JC

            Figuratively speaking that is…

      • Palin12

        Several of pappy’s commandments apply to liberals. For instance, #2 “Thou shalt attack opponents personally when you can’t win on policies”. What do you think the liberal media did to Sarah Palin in 2008? Oh my goodness, she fired a trooper (who was “correcting” his own nephew off-duty with his taser)! And oh my God, her daughter is pregnant!

        • Claire

          There is such a thing as leaving yourself wide open for criticism. Sometimes it is best to leave personal issues at home where they belong and not parade out in public for all to see and hear. When a person is in the public eye, they are vulnerable to all types of ridicule. Any politician knows this or at least they should.

          • American Citizen

            But it seems that only the children of conservatives are talked about. Didn’t Obama tell the media to leave his children alone, as did the Clintons?

          • Claire

            American Citizen–you are correct. Obama and the Clintons did tell the media to leave their kids alone. Did the Bushs do the same? I cannot remember.

          • libertytrain

            Claire – it seems that the journalists leave alone only those they choose to leave alone like the current president’s kids and Clinton’s girl.

          • Claire

            libertytrain– And why do they do it? The kids of politicians should be left alone-all of them-regardless of party affiliation. I know I would try to keep my kids out of the public eye and try to keep their life as normal as possible. It would make me so dang mad if the media picked on my kids!

      • Norm

        pappy
        I think you nailed it pappy.

      • American Citizen

        Pro-lifers do not confuse the justice system with the taking of innocent life. Even Jesus submitted Himself to the death penalty although innocent of the charges against Him.

    • http://libertyalert scoobie

      THANK YOU FROM ALL THE INFORMED CITIZENS OF ARIZONA AND OTHERS.

  • Elvin

    And what is so terribly wrong with spreading some of that wealth around? The reason the wealthy ARE wealthy is because they made that wealth on the backs of the poor. This is a slave society, where a few are very rich, and most work for them. Wake up righters! You guys are being used!

    • Why Name

      The reason the right doesn’t want wealth spread more evenly is that they would then have to actually get off their ignorant behinds and learn in order to get any kind of REAL JOB that requires intelligence, logic, forethought, foresight, and progressive. No, the republicans want to go backward in time back to the days of when women were owned by their husbands, where women had to be brood mares and subjected to the perverted whims of their husbands lest they be flogged, and back to a time where the only race was lily white and women and other races weren’t allowed to vote. What a joke the republican party is and has been for quite some time.

      J-M Bergman says: The blue parts seem to harbor most reputable universities. Red looks like rednecks and blue like high IQ to me.

      You are absolutely correct. So many in the red areas are rednecks, bigots, racists, anti-choice, religious zealots who pretend to be Christians but in reality they ARE NOT. They thump those bibles trying to make everyone believe they are so into God and Jesus and Church and Christian and moral values/family values – yeah right family values my hiney – the only family values they know is how John Bob can marry his sister with shotguns over their laps while rocking in their rockers before they load up their shotguns and rifles in their rusted out stinky pickup trucks heading over to that thar church social so they can pick and grin. Over-simplified? Nope, not in the least. So very thankful I am part of the party that has some real brains, intelligence, logic, and higher IQs who don’t want to marry their siblings and who don’t see the logic in pistol packin’ while visiting the nearest liquor store.

      I am so very thankful I belong to the party that actually knows what the hell a true democracy is all about and don’t spout that stupid crap about a Republic and the Constitution which is so very outdated – the Constitution needs to be gutted and re-done to fit with today’s society and not be a hold-out for the old barefoot and pregnant mentality of the right.

      • Smilee

        Why Name

        That is the part of the founding father’s culture they do not want to talk about. Also back then only white rich men made decisions politically, also the fact they originally did not include the bill of rights and they do not want to talk about what effect that it had on the Constitution but they still wish to return to these days. No one can realistically live in the past they must live in the present weather they want to or not. This is about the most silly article I have seen Chip write (most are) as it has nothing to do with the real world so is totally meaningless. Despite all the limits of the constitution by the founding fathers they still put together the framework for this country second to none and it should be greatly admired despite the limits they placed on so many people originally.

      • gary

        You idiot liberal. This is not a democracy it is a republic. Where in the hell did you go to school? WHich rock are you gonna be hiding under when the bullets start flying?

        • Smilee

          #
          gary says:
          June 25, 2010 at 9:00 am

          #
          wolman says:
          June 25, 2010 at 9:03 am

          Is that the best you and wolman can do, shoot out assumptions and bullshit, that is why you never have solutions, you will criticize any good idea or statement as that is all you are capable of. Your favorite word in your vocabulary is always “NO” without understanding why.

        • Todd from TX

          Hmmmmm can anyone say Impeachment…… I think we should really look into that one.

        • Average Joe

          gary says:
          June 25, 2010 at 9:00 am
          Answer to your question:
          They went to Federal Dummydown School, AKA…NO Idiot Left Behind.

      • wolman

        Hitler would have loved you!

      • Average Joe

        “I am so very thankful I belong to the party that actually knows what the hell a true democracy”

        ….really?
        What country do you live in?…I live in the United States of America…a Republic…not a democracy. Please take the time to read both the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution of the United States….let me know where you find the word democracy anywhere in either of those two documents…yes I know, I am asking a lot from you (actually having to “read” something ) I will let you know in advance that the word does not appear in either document.
        I would also like to remind you that had it not been for those “outdated” documents and the men and women who put their lives on the line to create those documents…you and I would still be subjects (slaves) to the British Monarchy and not free to voice our opinions.

        “The reason the right doesn’t want wealth spread more evenly is that they would then have to actually get off their ignorant behinds and learn in order to get any kind of REAL JOB that requires intelligence, logic, forethought, foresight, and progressive”.

        Actually we believe that we are entitled to the fruits of our labor and the right right to spend it as we see fit ie. If I wish to help others by donating money, time etc. I do so of my own free will… and not by forced judicial fiat. It is not my job nor my duty to support anyone or anything that I do not agree with….period. (OK, paradox comming) If you think I am wrong…send me the fruits of your labor…after all…you “want” to spread the wealth….right? at least that is what you said above….what? you don’t want to send me your money?why not?

        “J-M Bergman says: The blue parts seem to harbor most reputable universities. Red looks like rednecks and blue like high IQ to me.

        You are absolutely correct. So many in the red areas are rednecks, bigots, racists, anti-choice, religious zealots who pretend to be Christians but in reality they ARE NOT. They thump those bibles trying to make everyone believe they are so into God and Jesus and Church and Christian and moral values/family values – yeah right family values my hiney – the only family values they know is how John Bob can marry his sister with shotguns over their laps while rocking in their rockers before they load up their shotguns and rifles in their rusted out stinky pickup trucks heading over to that thar church social so they can pick and grin. Over-simplified? Nope, not in the least”.

        Let me simplify it even further. Your comment was racisit and bigotted from the firt line to the last. Usually when someone posts a comment such as yours, it shows that you are the one that is both racist and bigotted…you know….those words like: religious zealots , rednecks,Bible thumpers etc.
        So, my next question is this: Are you a Chritian, Agnostic,Athiest, Buddist,Jew,Muslim or any other “religion”? Do ou not try to convert others to your beliefs? If you say no, then I will call you a liar because you are doing exactly that right here…your words above are your beliefs and you are trying to convince us that you are right and we are wrong…again, your words…are your beliefs…if they were not, you wouldn’t have said them.
        For some reason, you believe that just because you have a card in you pocket that says “Democrat”, that you are somehow superior to anyone that doesn’t have that “special” card.Your problem is that you have tunnel vision and only see Party lines and not real issues. Being an intelligent person I look at each candidate, their values, their beliefs, their past records and past votes on issues. I care not which “party” they belong to…I care about their core values…period. I was raised in a family of liberal democrats and was taught that whaterever the democrats say…is gospel…
        of course these same people told me that Santa Clause , the Easter Bunny and the Toothe Fairy were all real….but then I grew up and found that I been lied to about all of these things. I learned that every man woman and child in the world…is only as good as their character. Maybe it is time that “you” grew up too.

        What I really can’t understand about the majority of this nations citizenry is the belief that the federal government “needs” to fix everything…I say “Screw the Feds”. Are your local cities,counties and state representitives too inept to govern you? If so, elect constitutionally grounded individuals to “manage” the system.
        What does the Federal Government produce? Answer: Beauracracy,paperwork and more rules and regulation than any “normal” human can possibly read let alone understand…. they are Leaches…nothing more….nothing less!
        It is time to stop looking at party lines. It is time to start taking personal responsibility for our own lives and….
        It is time to cut off the money flow to the wasteful non producers known as “The Federal Government”.
        Good luck on “growing up and looking outside the box”….may you someday become enlightened by the “real world” around you.

      • http://yahoo george

        SOUNDS TO ME YOU LEFT THE HILLS OF KENTUCK JUST IN TIME TO VOTE. YOU HAVE TO BE THE STUPIDEST ONE CALLED A DEM. I WAS A DEM UNTIL THE CLINTONS MADE THE WHITE HOUSE INTO A WHORE HOUSE WITH CLINTON THE PIMP. NOW AL GORE. AND HOW MENNY DUMD DEMS HAVE HAD TO PULL OUT OF THE RACE BECAUSE THE SECRATAREY AND BABBY SITTER GOT PREGNANT.OR THEY FORGOT TO PAY THE LAST 12 YEARS TAXES YOU DUMB DEMS ARE ALL ALIKE. STUPID IGNORANT AND LAZY. YOUR KIND WOULD STARVE IF THE GOV DIDNT FEED YOU. HAVE A NICE DAY ALL YA HILL PEOPLE DEMS

        • Norm

          george
          Bill Clinton ran federal surpluses. Yeah he had his personal problems but America was paying her bills at least.

      • MichelleO

        Why would you want something you didnt work for???? you are a POS Communist PIG and the cry of racism is so OLD nobody listens anymore, just keep collecting your welfare check and shut up

      • JC

        I see you have, in your arrogance, elevated yourself above every common sense American and wish to apply your own brand of social engineering.
        No thank you.
        I’ll keep my freedom, my money and my guns….YOU can keep the change.
        Think I’ll go and spend some of my hard earned money on some flowers for by gorgeous wife now.
        (moron)

        • Claire

          JC—Good for you–I take it you DID buy your wife flowers!!!

          • JC

            And a nice Australian Shiraz. ;)

          • Claire

            JC– Good wine and beautiful flowers! Good for you, she deserves it.

      • http://www.boblivingstonletter.com/ Bob Livingston

        Dear Why Name,

        Your ignorance and bigotry are surpassed only by your hubris. To label the vast swatch of middle America as uneducated, incestuous backwoods hicks demonstrates you’ve apparently never stepped far outside your small circle, your country club or Ivy League School. Middle Americans are salt of the earth people who love country and their neighbors. They’re the backbone of America; they work hard, respect others and are never afraid of lending a hand to those less fortunate. Their sons and daughters have always been the ones who’ve answered the call of their country when their politicians have called them to war.

        Attitudes like yours pervade Washington D.C. today, yet these people from the “party that has some real brains, intelligence, logic and higher IQs” are the people who bring us soaring debt, higher taxes and unemployment and who have instituted policies that will destroy the American economic system (and I blame Republicans and Democrats for that). But if you look at the major cities of those blue areas you will find they are failing. And they are failing even though they are governed by the “party that has some real brains, intelligence, logic and higher IQs” because of the very policies they advocate.

        To label someone as unintelligent, redneck, bigoted religious zealots just because they have a different viewpoint from yours is ridiculously small minded.

        As to whether or not they are truly Christian, or their faith is genuine: That is not a question you should concern yourself with. That will be decided by God when the time comes.

        All the best,
        Bob

        • JC

          Thank You Bob,
          Absolutely right.

        • Christin

          Amen!

        • kate8

          Bob – Ah… magnificent!

        • libertytrain

          Mr. Livingston – “Why Name” displays the usual lib leftist racist attitudes. No surprise here.

          • eddie47d

            Yes Mr Livingstons comments deserve an atta-boy. Will you say the same thing when i41 and SC make unintelligent remarks which they do often.

        • Karolyn

          Have you lived in any of those “backwoods” areas? I have/am; and most of the people here only look out for family to exclusion of all else. True, some are OK; but the majority that I have seen would be classified as true-blue rednecks, right down to the rebel flag in their front yard. I don’t hate these people; I pity them their ignorance, as I pity you.

          • libertytrain

            Karolyn – yes, I have and am as well – if you take the time to get to know your neighbors – you will more than likely discover a really fine decent folk – generally they don’t share with folk possessing your attitude of being better than them so you will miss that golden opportunity. I’ve seen it in my mountain area all the time, the Northerners come in and try to make an area like they want it to be – creating friction and never attempt to assimilate into the region – just try to change a region or criticize a region’s people, alienating good people in the process – I was born and raised in the North too, but somehow was fortunate to understand that doesn’t mean anything at all and why should it? I consider myself blessed to have gotten to know some genuinely fine folks.

          • American Citizen

            libertytrain, we have the same experience here in the small towns. People from the big city move to them to get away from that life, only to want and expect what they ran away from. They keep to themselves in their “enclaves” and clubs and may, if you’re lucky, acknowledge your existence if you meet one of them in the grocery store. Of course, they go back to the city most of the time to do their shopping thus not supporting the local businesses.

          • libertytrain

            American Citizen – I live on 10 acres and keep half-expecting some newbie to start a law here in my mountain region of NC (as is frequent all over Florida) that I can’t hang my laundry on a line outside to dry because it’s offensive to someone – I’m mostly serious – only a matter of time.

        • Kinetic1

          Bob,
          Is it any better to paint Middle America with a broad brush of greatness? Growing up in California I have lived in major cities and small towns. I can tell you that there are “commie lib” tree huggers who have stood beside hard working red necks in our dairy land when disaster struck, but I can also point to some “salt of the earth” types who care for no one but them selves.

          Why Name was wrong to incite such anger just to make a point, but let’s not suggest that where you live makes you a better person.

          By the by, my wife comes from a small town in Ohio, and I’ve spent time outside of Lala land.

          • Kuurus

            Yes there are those that could care less about their neighbors and it’s our God given right. Just as it is our God given right to spend what we earn not what Teddy Kennedy earned or what Bill Gates earned or what George Sorros earned, and many of us considered it our God given responsibility to protect those that can’t protect themselves, even shockingly to paying a man to drive a fancy car around to be sure that criminals don’t harm others. Now though those in power want to take from those that took care of others and give it to people who lie, break the law and use any means available to cheat those that don’t. So yes I dislike the polices that Obama and his cronies are shoving down my throat this includes the idea that I must carry health insurance so some druggie or drunkard can ruin their health and then get free medical care.

        • http://GOGGLE vaksal

          to:BOB LIVINGSTON,YOU MUST HAVE READ MY MIND,EXCELLENT.FOR GOD AND THIS REPUBLIC ALWAYS.

    • J.M.R.

      E you go ahead give your hard earned money to a lazy low life. i will try to keep what i earned through working for it. ask your buddy in D.C. how much of the 5 mil he got will be given to a lazy ass. or are you one of them.

    • Conservative at Birth

      It is called seizing. To take legal possesion of, To take forcibly and quickly. Sounds like thievery to me. When you and your mob come to my door to seize my assets your will be met with a 12 gauge shot gun.

    • Jim H.

      Elvin, Yes, the wealthy employ us, buy our products and services. We get a PAY CHECK from them, so yes they do distribute the wealth. Ever worked for a homeless person? Ever WORKED.

    • slickporsche

      So how many of you are willing to do what it takes to get our country back?? Voting will not get you what you want. It is way past the voting stage. The voting will be rigged and the independents and some Republicans will joing the Democrats after you vote them in. Believe it!

    • BH

      @Elvin: “And what is so terribly wrong with spreading some of that wealth around?”

      Ans: Thou Shalt Not Steal.

      Taking from someone only because they have it and you want it is simple thievery. Your envy of others and coveting what they have is not a virtue.

      The rich already pay more that half of all income tax collected.

      @Elvin: “The reason the wealthy ARE wealthy is because they made that wealth on the backs of the poor.”

      Ans: The poor in this country do not work. Since they do not produce, obviously others are not living off of their efforts; they aren’t making any efforts. Quite to the contrary, the poor live off of the efforts of the productive people: the middle class and the rich.

      Most of the “rich” are small business owners who work long hours to make their customers and workers happy. They typically live in ordinary middle class homes and drive average cars. They spend the bulk of their income on others — by investing their money to create jobs, and giving to charity. The rich spend only a very small percentage of their money on themselves.

      Of course, with the kind of “distribution of wealth” programs in place that you advocate, the wealthy stop spending on others (sell off their investments) and retire. They continue to live a fine life style. It is the middle class and working poor who lose their jobs when the government raises taxes on the rich.

      The middle class spend most of their money on themselves, giving a much smaller percentage to charity and to investments that create jobs.

      The working poor give little or nothing to charity and do not invest.

      There are, of course, rich people who are indeed leaches. But their ability to live off of others without making any real contribution typically comes from advantages given by government. I suspect that we can agree on one point: those who work for the large banks are part of the problem, not part of the solution. But it is liberal senators and representatives who receive the greatest contributions from these vermin, and who give the strongest support to them. Likewise, politicians in general become rich off of the blood of others, and I will not defend their wealth.

      In any modern society, whether capitalist or socialist, someone has to decide where the excess capacity (beyond subsistence) is to be applied. Do we grow more food, and if so, what kind? Do we invest in major capital expenditures for the future, such as factories, and if so, what kind? Do we provide more services, such as restaurants and day care centers, and if so, what kind? The productive effort of a society is finite. To choose to grow more corn is to choose to do less of something else.

      In a socialist society, these questions are answered by central planners. As is well known, they are unable to make reasonable decisions because things keep changing and they do not can not have enough information about an entire country to make millions of decisions centrally.

      In a capitalist society, these questions are answered by individuals who save the fruits of their labor. Those who do a superior job of evaluating the needs, wants, and desires of consumers not only make more money to invest, but also attract the investment money of others. Thus, those who successfully meet the demands of “the people” control larger and larger amounts of capital. Those who do a poor job of allocating capital loose their money and thus their ability to misallocate in the future.

      But in a socialist society, those who allocate capital are those who rise to political power. Those who allocate capital poorly are not “weeded out”. So misallocation continues.

      But the most important reason that capitalism is better than socialism isn’t that the entire society becomes more wealthy (which, of course, it does). It is that it is ethical. All choices in a purely capitalist society are choices freely made. You buy the product you want at a price agreeable both to you and the seller. You work for an employer who wants your work and for whom you have voluntarily applied for the job. But in a socialist society, the government makes the major choices, enforced at the point of a gun.

    • JC

      Elvin, Name, Smilee…
      You guys are advocating straight up communism. I’m guessing your birth in the United States was an accident. Shouldn’t you be on the road somewhere looking for your true homeland?
      Just remember when you see pictures of the National Cemetery that those headstones represent men and women who died fighting tyranny, fascism and communism so that we could remain a nation of liberty.
      So when your out and about in your little Che Guevera hats and T-Shirts…remember to hug the ground and slither fast…some vet might just be drawing a bead on you.

    • Allan

      Elvin-

      it’s simple…you are jealous of the rich and conservatives are not.

    • American Citizen

      It’s obvious you are not a business owner. They have all the headaches of running a business. Most of them are not rich. They put their money at risk every day. The employees go in, do their job and go home. The owners put in long days trying to keep the business afloat. Even supervisors and managers have headaches the regular employees do not. It’s not easy to have to tell someone they’ve lost their job, whether do to economics or the employee’s own conduct.

      • JC

        All the while carrying the full weight of government intervention on their backs which steals about 40% of their productive time.

    • http://libertyalert scoobie

      NO WE BELIEVE IN WORKING FOR WHAT WE HAVE, NO HANDOUTS ONLY HANDUPS.

  • http://www.predatorybankers.com Vincent Germano

    Thank you for such simplistic analysis of the reason for Obama’s election.I believe this period is even worse than that in which Hitler worked his way to highest power of Germany. I see a similarity in the way Germans, Italians and Japonese, good intelligent people, were deceived into electing their rulers, with the matters that elected Obama. Based upon the material evidence provided by Glenn Beck, Fox News, when will we the people demand a congressional investigation? Don’t foget, however, that both political parties are corrupted to their core. Vincent Germano, who, together with eight (8) brothers, veterans WW2; record for one family, sound a clarion call for the people to defend our government and very way of life.

    • Smilee

      It is simple the one with the most electoral votes wins, in Obama’s case that was also the popular vote and was also a majority vote,the largest in many years. Your analysis of the election only reflects your biases and is not a real analysis

      • http://libertyalert scoobie

        HOW MANY OF HIS PROMISES HAS HE KEPT? SO FAR JUST HIS CHANGE, WHAT A JOKE.

        • Smilee

          And just how does your post have anything to do with with how many votes Obama got????????????????????????

    • BigBadJohn

      I seem to recall that GWB won the presidency with fewer popular votes than Gore. Now that was travesty!

      • JC

        You’re right it was a travesty. Still, thank God the “Reverend Gore” didn’t get in. It only goes to show how badly warped our system has become.

        • Claire

          JC– I agree with you on this, Gore as President? Yuk.

  • http://connectthedots2006.blogspot.com Connect the dots

    HFlashman,

    I suggest you find another source for your media updates.

    The party of “NO” is saying “HELL NO” to socialized medicine–which will result in rationed care, doctors leaving the profession in droves, INCREASED health care costs for everyone, and LOSS of health insurance for many. The government has NO BUSINESS involved in health care. And, BTW, the GOP DID offer solutions — tort reform, let people buy insurance across state lines, creation of common insurance pools… Real solutions. It was obama and the demonrats in congress, as well as the lamestream media who prevented most Americans from hearing their side.

    The party of “NO” is saying “HELL NO” to increased taxes. Equalize the tax burden? You gotta be kidding! The top five percent earners in this country pay 95% of the taxes.

    The part of “NO” is saying “HELL NO” to letting illegal aliens stay, and we say “BUILD THE DAMN FENCE”. 11-20 illegals are in this country now… that would just about take care of the 10% unemployment. And don’t tell me they do the jobs Americans won’t do. That’s bullsh*t.

    The party of “NO” is saying “HELL NO” to an incompetent, divisive, racist, communist George Soros puppet who is trying to crash this country for the benefit of his rich buddies. His day is coming. I won’t be happy until I see him led away in handcuffs and facing a firing squad. He is a traitor. He’s not only NOT doing his job, he’s killing this country.

    The GOP isn’t trying to FORCE religion on anybody. This country was founded on Judeo-Christian principles like the Ten Commandments and the Golden Rule. This is not, was not, nor ever will be a muslim country, regardless what the current occupant of the whitehouse says. This is still one of the few countries in the world where you have complete freedom of religion. Christians and Jews are being attacked for wanting to practice. The politically correct dhimmicrats, however, bend over backwards to pander to muslims and are heading us for a sharia state.

    I am sick and tired of all the socialist, communist, marx-loving, America-hating, racist, anti-Christian, che-loving, castro-loving, obama-loving dirtbags in this country. Communism used to be a dirty word. Now, it’s ‘stylish.’

    If you don’t like this country, if you don’t like its founders, if you don’t want to work for your fair share, if you’re ashamed of this country, don’t want to wear a US flag lapel pin, or protect and defend the constitution… get the hell out. Go crawl back under your rock.

    WE DON’T NEED YOU HERE. WE DON’T WANT YOU HERE.

    • Smilee

      Connect the dots says:
      June 25, 2010 at 7:48 am

      HFlashman,

      I suggest you find another source for your media updates.

      WE DON’T NEED YOU HERE. WE DON’T WANT YOU HERE.

      __________________

      Please don’t include me in your “WE” I believe in the freedom of speech for all including you despite your silly post, So I won’t say HELL NO to you.

      • Palin12

        Smelly, sounds like you’re losing your temper today, ha hah. You’re going to have a lot more to get angry about in November, Old Man, when all your socialistic fantasies come falling apart as the Dimwits lose control of Congress and the new Congress doesn’t give Obummer anything he wants. No cap and trade, no new taxes, and especially no amnesty!

        • Smilee

          Not angry, Didn’t you see I said please??? Democrats will not lose their majority in Nov, should lose some but not the majority so it is you who will be crying in your beer. Let me know if you need a crying towel.

      • American Citizen

        As old as you are, you should know better. You can’t have prosperity by spending your way into it. It only impoverishes everybody. Look at all the countries that have tried true socialism/communism. You have to classes, the rich (those in power) and the poor. Which do you think you would be?

        • American Citizen

          Darned keyboard, two classes.

    • Sandy

      BRAVO! That says it all for a lot of us.

    • BigBadJohn

      please do try to get your facts straight.

      If the federal taxation rate is compared with the wealth distribution rate, the net wealth (not only income but also including real estate, cars, house, stocks, etc) distribution of the United States does almost coincide with the share of income tax – the top 1% pay 36.9% of federal tax (wealth 32.7%), the top 5% pay 57.1% (wealth 57.2%), top 10% pay 68% (wealth 69.8%), and the bottom 50% pay 3.3% (wealth 2.8%).

      The top 10% pay the most tax because they own/control about the same percentage in wealth. It is not wealth redistribution, they earn more so pay more.

      During the 2000′s the rich got richer and paid less tax.

      http://blogs.wsj.com/informedreader/2007/04/15/americas-tax-burden-shifts-downward/

      • pappy

        Not to mention corporate welfare which is bankrupting the country, billions given away as tax breaks ,subsidies,to big oil ,big pharma,major corporations which pay no taxes at all.
        talk about entitlements END CORPORATE WELFARE.
        Trickle down is another part of the scam it never worked and never will.
        as for redistribution of wealth,well after RAYGUN gave tax breaks to the rich,and increased taxes on the working class ,started allowing monopolies,deregulated everything,look where we are after 30 years of that scam,then Dubya comes along and gives more tax breaks to the wealthy and trickle down still doesn’t work ,because it’s really trickle up.You see the wealth has already been redistributed up.And we the real working class americans want our monety back.Let’s start making these corporations pay some taxes ,close thes loopholes WAKE UP
        Trickle down is a scam to get people to vote against their own interests and it works

      • American Citizen

        The Bush tax cuts cut everyone’s taxes. Just wait until they expire.

    • Todd from TX

      Thanks I’m so glad that there are still Americans in this country. I gave 20yrs of my life for her to protect her to come home to this. Just because the wall came down doesn’t mean we won.. They just went underground so that we didn’t see this all coming. Gotten into our schools and TV, hollywood, media, there spy network really worked overtime. Sorry Joe McCartney you told us what was coming and America didn’t listen… and here we are. Thanks to Glenn Beck really seeing what’s the real history of this country. It’s a real shame that it’s not being taught in our schools.

    • J.Micheal

      This is why there is a separation between church and state in the constitution, to keep religion out of politics, but unfortunately some people just don’t get it, next thing you know the republicans will bring back the Inquisition. I certainly do not get the same conclusions as expressed in this article, looking at the other maps. Did you see that blonde bimbo on FOX compare her job to the President’s,talk about delusional. And I can see alot of these brainwashed repub’s on this page want to get back to a more fundamental,God-fearing,less government way of life,kind of reminds you of,oh what,OH YEAH THE TALIBAN. Isn’t it funny(not ha-ha funny) how the republicans are all quiet when they get one of theirs in office,but unfortunately it’s still”business as usual”, we still have the same issues and they don’t do anything either. Did you see how stupid they looked when interviewed down in Hawaii,especially some of the women,they should really let out of the kitchen more,oh,and teach them how to read,you know more than a 5th grade education.

      • Christin

        Most people have “the Separation of Church and State” all wrong… like you. Originally, the meaning of Separation of Church and State meant keeping the affairs of the State out of the Church NOT the other way around. Our Founding Father’s were believers. Progressives have spun that and it was taught wrong to American students in government run schools.

        • Smilee

          Another brain washed christian

          • Christin

            That’s CHRISTian with a capital “C.”
            TRUTH is a wonderful thing… it will sent you FREE.
            I LOVE FREEDOM. And I will love Heaven.

            Your lack of faith will get you a one way ride to Hellsville.
            Ya won’t be Smileen then.

          • slickporsche

            I don’t need any sunglasses around you!! All I see is 2 eyes and teeth. Go back to the dark continent.

          • Smilee

            In your case I thought christian was more appropriate, weather you can believe it or not is not important to me but I am a Christian

          • Claire

            And true Christians should practice what they preach. I am simply making a statement, this is not aimed at anyone in particular.

          • American Citizen

            Smilee, he’s right. We need people of principle up there in D.C.

          • http://libertyalert scoobie

            AND WHAT ARE YOU?

          • http://GOGGLE vaksal

            SMILEE,PLEASE READ GEORGE WASHINGTONS FAREWELL ADDRESS,IT SAIDS A LOT IN A FEW PARAGRAPHS,ABOUT THE DEVINE ALMIGHTY AND GOVERNMENT.THE TRUTH OF HIS WORDS ARE THE REASON WE BECAME A NATION UNDER GOD.AND WHY WE ARE HAVING THE PEOPLE RUNNING GOVERNMENT DOING WHAT THEIR DOING.THEY DONT HAVE GOOD VALUES,MORALS.

        • truesoy

          In matters of church and state, either way you mix it, whether you take the State to he Church or the other way around, the results would be the same. This is dangerous territory. Anytime that a church (any religion) becomes the government the country goes down the drain. Please, if you have not study history for a while, then, just look around and you will see the mess religious government create. You don’t want that for this country, though I could see why you believe the way you do. Organized religion, mostly chrisitians, have been promoting the idea that the U.S. was found on christian principals, and they have repeated so much that a great many people believe it and they even quote the ‘ in God we trust’ in our dollar bills as proof, or ‘a nation under God’ in the pledge of allegiance as proof of the founding fathers christian nation building ideas. But this people don’t realize that hose things were not there until many years later at the bequest of the christian movement that in the 1950′s convinced the government to ‘insert’ the phrase ‘ a nation under God’ in the pledge of allegiance.

          • American Citizen

            The underlying principles of the Christians religion is what our Constitution and Bill of Rights were founded upon. Aren’t you glad?

          • http://libertyalert scoobie

            AND WHERE DO YOU GET YOUR FACTS? FROM THE LEFTIST NEWS MEDIA, TRY READING AND MAYBE YOU WILL BE ENLIGHTENED.

        • Norm

          Believing that religion is a matter which lies solely between man and his God, that he owes account to none other for his faith or his worship, that the legitimate powers of government reach actions only, and not opinions, I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their Legislature should “make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof,” thus building a WALL OF SEPARATION between Church and State.
          – Thomas Jefferson, to Danbury Baptists, 1802 (emphasis ours).

          The ‘Wall of Separation,’ Again:
          Because religious belief, or non-belief, is such an important part of every person’s life, freedom of religion affects every individual. Religious institutions that use government power in support of themselves and force their views on persons of other faiths, or of no faith, undermine all our civil rights. Moreover, state support of an established religion tends to make the clergy unresponsive to their own people, and leads to corruption within religion itself. Erecting the “WALL OF SEOARATION between church and state,” therefore, is absolutely essential in a free society.
          We have solved, by fair experiment, the great and interesting question whether freedom of religion is compatible with order in government and obedience to the laws. And we have experienced the quiet as well as the comfort which results from leaving every one to profess freely and openly those principles of religion which are the inductions of his own reason and the serious convictions of his own inquiries.
          – Thomas Jefferson, to the Virginia Baptists (1808) ME 16:320

          • truesoy

            Well said. Hopefully others will read it and develop a better understanding for the separation of church and state.

          • American Citizen

            What it means is that the government cannot force anyone to belong to a particular religion, especially one created by the state.

          • http://libertyalert scoobie

            RIGHT-ON THOMAS.

    • eddie47d

      I don’t buy most of your argument.Dr.’s have been leaving in droves long ago because they want to make even bigger money on Wall st.and in private practices. We heard everything you said about healthcare in one long grueling year.Little was left out. Maybe govt. should stay out of the healthcare business but both sides fired off an abundance of information so let’s deal with what they came up with. Tort reform would be okay but would save precious little. Insurance companies have been rationing care for decades.so that’s nothing new. They raised rates 20% just 3 days ago without the government being involved. That’s over 50% in 4 years. So don’t blame their gouging on Obamas plan for his plan isn’t even up and running yet. The way private insurance charges almost makes you want socialized medicine. Who said they want to make this country a Muslim nation? Not Obama and not the Democrates so who? There are alot of Americans who won’t do immigrants work and “lower” themselves and I have heard that from a few. So you are not paying attention. But you can practice what you preach and follow Jesus.

      • American Citizen

        You must not listen to the Muslims, that’s their goal. The total goal is to make the whole world Muslim. Of course, the Mexicans claim this country belongs to them, so there may eventually a war between the M & M’s.

      • http://libertyalert scoobie

        NOBAMA DID SAY THAT THIS COUNTRY IS NOT CHRISTIAN STATE.

  • http://msn Kerri

    I read that 49% of adult Americans don’t pay one penney in taxes. When 1/2 of American does not contribute and most are on welfare of some kind that means that the other 1/2 of Americans are support 1/2 of the country.
    We need welfare reform NOW. A limit on how long you can get welfare benefits. 3 years would be a good number. In three years you can earn a GDE and get a 2 year college degree. How to pay for it? Student loans like almost everone else. Lone that have to be paid back. After 3 years your off the welfare rolls forevery. Earn your benefits and then support yourself! E-Varify every applicant so that only U.S. Citizens get tax payer benefits. No extra money or time on the welfare system if you become pregnant with another baby while on welfare. That would save billions of $ a year.

  • Cathy J

    Elvin — Some people get “rich” because they are willing to take risks that other people are not. Other people want a comfortable risk-free job. I was raised very poor. I worked hard and educated myself with no help from anyone. At one time I became rich, I gambled on business and became poor again–really poor. I worked hard and made more money — again by taking risk. Now we are on our way to being rich again. If we fail we could literally be on the street and up to our armpits in debt. We are mortaged personally and professionally. Every penny we make goes back into the business to pay salaries to those who we employ. Most people don’t get “rich” because it is given to them. It is a reward to those who take risk and invest in the future and in themselves instead of sitting back comfortable in a regular job. Without these “rich” risk-takers you would not have a comfortable job. If we get rich it is because we worked darn hard for it and risked losing it all (I raised 4 kids in the process). You need the risk-takers and the workers, but don’t bite the hand that signs the paycheck or you may not have one.

    • Norm

      Cathy J
      A few comments:

      1. I respect you and your hard work and agree that risk takers usually have a better potential of becoming rich (or poor). They deserve what they get.

      2. Risk taking is really gambling and if you should wind up on the losing end, you deserve no bailouts or special treatments.

      2. Not all wealthy people start from “scratch”. Most come from wealthy familys and have substantial resources at their disposal.

      3. Not all employers are good guys. Offering jobs at unlivable wages and benefits doesn’t make a person a great american.

      4. People who enjoy good paying careers who aren’t interested in taking major risks are not bad, in fact they are necessary.

      • Cathy J

        Norm, your points are all mostly correct. but a lot of rich people wern’t born that way including Bill Gates, Opra Winfrey and Warren Buffett A majority of the curent “rich worked theri way up.

        If I fall on my face I deserve what I get. I do not expect, nor have I ever recieved a handout — not even unemployment. I have worked two or three jobs at a time on occasion to support my kids who are all grown and doing very well on their own because I instilled in them good work ethics.
        I agree that not all employers are good guys. Offering jobs at unlivable wages and benefits doesn’t make a person a great american. If your employeer is not good you have the right to find another job instead of whining. If no one works for his he will change. He doesn’t have to hire you and you don’t have to work for him.

        I also agree that people who enjoy good paying careers who aren’t interested in taking major risks are not bad, in fact they are necessary. I employee some of thos fine people myself. I’ve been an employee and a boss. I worked just as hard for my employer as I do for myself. I expect a level of dedication from my employees. Most employeers reward for effort — but the lazy person gets a lazy persons wage and the hard workers typically get rewards.

        • Smilee

          Cathy J

          Bill Gates, Opra Winfrey and Warren Buffett A majority of the current “rich worked theri way up.

          This is true and isn’t interesting these three almost always feel the Democrats are their party of choice, also they are in the minority of the rich who came to being rich on their own and isn’t it interesting they are giving half and more of their wealth to trusts for charitable things and the average for the rich is 1% of their wealth. There are good rich people who believe in fair play in everything including taxes which Buffet anyhow believes is unfair in that he pays less of his income than his secretary in income taxes.

          • American Citizen

            Those whom we know are “rich” here in our community are very giving of their finances to help the community. They know what it takes to become rich as are willing to help those in need.

          • American Citizen

            Smilee, were you ever a business owner or entrepreneur? They employ the most people. It takes capital to start a business, lots of it. I agree that if the business fails, so be it. It takes most startups 5 years to see if they will make it.

      • Cathy J

        Norm, your points are all mostly correct. but a lot of rich people wern’t born that way including Bill Gates, Opra Winfrey and Warren Buffett A majority of the curent “rich worked theri way up.

        If I fall on my face I deserve what I get. I do not expect, nor have I ever recieved a handout — not even unemployment which is technically not a handout since we pay into it. I have worked two or three jobs at a time on occasion to support my kids who are all grown and doing very well on their own because I instilled in them good work ethics.
        I agree that not all employers are good guys. Offering jobs at unlivable wages and benefits doesn’t make a person a great american. If your employeer is not good you have the right to find another job instead of whining. If no one works for his he will change. He doesn’t have to hire you and you don’t have to work for him.

        I also agree that people who enjoy good paying careers who aren’t interested in taking major risks are not bad, in fact they are necessary. I employee some of thos fine people myself. I’ve been an employee and a boss. I worked just as hard for my employer as I do for myself. I expect a level of dedication from my employees. Most employeers reward for effort — but the lazy person gets a lazy persons wage and the hard workers typically get rewards.

        • Average Joe

          To Norm and Cathy J,
          The problem is NOT the corporations or the Rich. The problem is:
          Our elected “supposed” Representatives who willingly take money (bribes) from those corporations and rich “donors”and allow those donors and corporations to write their own “rules” for us to follow.
          Do not blame the corporations or donors….they are just looking out for their own best interest…Our representatives were elected to look out for OUR interests and are not doing so….Take out all of the trash in November….get rid of the whole lot of them…send a message…listen to US….or face the unemployment line….

          • Smilee

            Boy are you ever confused it is OK to offer a bribe but wrong to accept one. Clueless, how do you recieve a bribe that is not first offered

          • Average Joe

            Yes Smiley it is… A corporation is free to offer anything to anyone in the pursuit of improving their bottom line….That is called capitalism. However, your elected representatives were elected to conduct business for our benefit…not personal gain…Who pays their salary?…..we do….who do they work for?…us….who should they be looking out for?…US…Are they doing that?….NO. If you are so far left of center that you don’t understand the difference, then I am afraid there is no help for you.
            I am not advocating the practice as I too find it deplorable and yes it is illegal and should be punished. However, when they own the Supreme Court and the Justice Dept….who’s going to prosecute them? Or have you forgotten that they all believe they are above the laws that they impose on us. Have you forgotten that they wash each others backs?
            What should happen is…when a corporation offers a bribe to a member of congress or other elected official, the official should have them arrested for attempted bribery….But this is the real world where they take the money and run…… the American people be damned…..so, blame those elected officials….not the corporations…Remember, your elected officials have the ability to do the right thing and refuse to be corrupted by bribery….but they don’t…they take the money and throw us under the bus.

          • Smilee

            Average Joe

            They are both to blame and you know it, corporations pick and choose who the want to run for congress every time they can, of courase that is not 100% but enough so they almost always get what they want, congressmen could do nothing if the corporations did not finanance it and you know that too. It’s like catching two people in the course of a robbery but charge only one because you like one but not the other. Hippocrit!!

          • Average Joe

            Smilee says:

            congressmen could do nothing if the corporations did not finanance it and you know that too. It’s like catching two people in the course of a robbery but charge only one because you like one but not the other.

            Actually, the corporations could do nothing….if our elected officials actually DID their jobs and refused the bribes…and that is the part that you are not getting (corporations look out for the corporation because that is their job…Congress on the other hand are supposed to look out for us because that is their job).
            As for the second part of your comment….First they have to catch them before they can charge them ( I really don’t see them catching themselves). When they are caught, they have a ethics commission look at it….give them a slap on the wrist and forget about it….instead of prosecuting them…again…this shows that our elected officials are not doing their jobs …by turning a blind eye.
            Ask yourself…who is supposed to represent the people? Is it the corporations or is it our elected officials? I don’t know about you but, I don’t expect a corporation to have my best interest at heart when they do business….I do however expect my elected officials to have my best interest at heart…that is why they were elected…..to represent us.
            I stand by my original statements.

          • Smilee

            Average Joe says:
            June 27, 2010 at 7:06 am

            Joey you are not average but way way below average, You have no understanding how the lobby world works, total ignorance on your part

        • Average Joe

          Smilee says:
          June 27, 2010 at 9:32 am

          Where in any of my posts do you find the word “lobby”? I just re read every one of them…I can’t find the word. Lobby Vs. Bribery = Apples Vs. Oranges. See if you can stay focused on what I said and stop putting words in my mouth.

          • Average Joe

            Lobbying, the action or the group used to influence a viewpoint to politicians.

            Bribery, a form of corruption, is an act implying money or gift given that alters the behavior of the recipient. Bribery constitutes a crime and is defined by Black’s Law Dictionary as the offering, giving, receiving, or soliciting of any item of value to influence the actions of an official or other person in charge of a public or legal duty. The bribe is the gift bestowed to influence the recipient’s conduct. It may be any money, good, right in action, property, preferment, privilege, emolument, object of value, advantage, or merely a promise or undertaking to induce or influence the action, vote, or influence of a person in an official or public capacity.

          • Smilee

            You did not use the word Lobby but that is the process you were talking about the fact you now say it isn’t again shows how little you understand about government and corporations and again you prove just how far below average you really are Joe

          • Average Joe

            That may be what you thought…or should I say ASSumed?
            However, I tend to speak pretty plainly…..so if the word isn’t there…I wasn’t talking about it. I do recall however mentioning the word bribery on more than on occassion…hmm…I musta been talking about something else completely….nice deduction there Sherlock.
            Maybe in the future you could take a remedial reading class….since you obviously can’t read….but your immagination has run completely away with your mind…..I would ask you to put up some facts to support all of your useless bantor…but for limited minded people like yourself…facts seem to just get in the way of your ego….

            Go ahead….you can have the last word….if it’ll make you feel better….as usual it will have no substance, only vile remarks insulting someone else because you have nothing viable or verifiable to contribute to a real debate….which shows just how small of a person you really are.

  • Donald

    The problem with this analysis is that it conveniently overlooks the fact that people vote. Counties and acreas of land do not vote. All it proves is that most people live in, or near, large cities which is a world-wide phenomena.

  • http://charter howe

    First of all, if you are going to delude yourself into believing that your vote for a liberal democrat is going to strengthen our Republic, its time to come out of your self hypnotic trance and face reality. Everyone in the country believes that BP needs to pony up for all the damage they have caused and BP has already agreed to do same not to mention the 20 billion slush fund over 4 years. The denigration and insults to BP has been part of what has driven their stock down to a point where the company is in the danger zone for failure which means the U.S. tax payers would have to foot the bill for the Gulf mess, so thats why you hold these oil people responsible but also use care to avoid situations of name calling and dredging up ill feelings toward BP and Great Britain, which would also suffer if BP goes down. Some would say they deserve to fail, I say keep their mangy asses solvent till they pay for all the damage they have inflicted on our brothers in the Gulf and the country and then afterward kick them to the curb if that is in the national interest. On the second point I would like to mention that a massive bi-partisan financial bill went to the President for signature and it covers much of the dilemma with the banks and other financial organizations except for Freddy Mac and Fanny Mae which is the only really bad concession the Republicans made to get this bill passed. There is still too much govt being created but for this particular problem it was the lesser of two evils. On healthcare reform, it would have been so easy to craft a bipartisan bill to correct the shortcomings of the health care delivery system instead of creating an entirely new monsterous health care bill that is unaffordable to the 50 states and creates a wave of new taxes and cost of living increases which will be felt significantly in 2011 and the health care bill collects taxes for four years and then becomes effective in 2014. What grandiose purpose have the democrats created by bankrupting the country with a new entitlement that the Majority of WE THE PEOPLE did not want. Get your head into whats going on and you will see that if this bill is not repealed and a common sense solution is not forthcoming then our country will be owned by the Chinese. Insurance companies can be legislated to stop their practice of not insuring people with pre-existing condition and refusing coverage etc. What we don’t need is 159 new govt offices that would regulate and oversee the HC bill along with 16,500 new IRS employees to monitor and manage people who do not buy or pay for insurance coverage. The bill allows for jail time as a consequence, is that what you think our Constitution says our govt can do to us. That is Marxist doctrine when the Govt can ride roughshod over states rights. We ahve a serious oil need because the environmentalists stopped efforts to build nuclear plants, they are mostly democrats in case you wonder, and that is easily checked out. Pelosi is in office because of their strength in numbers. We have 44 nuclear plants and have not built one in decades because of the 3 mile island incident and meanwhile France has 75 nuclear plants and they do not have any kind of electrical grid problems or dependency on oil. Govt motors has been dragging on fuel efficient and green cars thanks to their greedy union and the last three administrations not creating the incentives for detroit to go green. They finally could not compete with the foreign car makers and had to be bailed out once again due to the greedy unions. They still owe taxpayer repayment but continue to be owned by the govt. Our vehicle industry within the united states has been bleeding jobs because the average salary for auto workers is about 74.00$ an hour and medical and retirement is second to none. The cost passed on to consumers for years has been unsustainable. We need jobs in this country because of the bleeding of jobs overseas due to the cheap labor over their. We are going to tank as a country if we don’t show up at the polls to vote out these socialist democrats who are moving us toward civil strife and marxist rule of law. I would rather have gridlock back, at least I could afford to buy groceries and gas. I spent 29 years in the miltary because I thought I was supporting the U.S. Constitution and the American people, that was important then and it is my passion now to support the Constitution and the laws of the land and what I see the Whitehouse and liberal democrats doing is placing themselves above the law and making the rules as they go. Please join me stop these radicals by voting in November 2010 and again every two years until we have gotten all the trash to the curb.

    • Pam in Alaska

      WOW – I couldn’t agree with you more! Thanks for you comments. I would add term limits.

      • Airangel

        Ditto from me!

    • American Citizen

      Another problem is, if BP goes under, which could happen, a lot of people in this country will too. I believe it’s been said some 20,000 or more work for BP, such as station owners and their employees, plus those who work in the industry.

    • http://libertyalert scoobie

      SHOULDN’T THE GOVERNMENT ALSO BE RESPONSIBLE FOR SOME OF THE DAMAGE IN THE GULF, DOESN’T THE GOVERNMENT INSPECT THE COMPANIES DOING THE DRILLING, IF THEY ARE USING CHEAP OR SHODY EQUIPMENT, SHOULDN’T THEY STOP THEM, OR FINE THEM?

      • Claire

        They are all on the “take.” Money talks.

      • Smilee

        Scobie,, but that would require government regulations that you do not believe in, oil companies wrote the current regulations behind closed door with Cheney and you can bet this will be revisited in the future and this catering to them will be improved on.

  • Avis

    This shows voting hasn’t been doing any good. You have those who care about the wellbeing and future of America voting for those who do, while those who appear unconcerned where this nation is headed to are voting for those who do not. Many hispanics who are only loyal to mexico will vote on a Dem who is mostly for amnesty and not protecting our borders. There is a large division in this country which will cause this country to collapse. Patriotism is slowly fading away, it is despressing to see this. We NEED a revolution!

  • ladyogolf

    Hey HFlashman,
    I will vote for the goverment who believes is the free markets.
    I will votes for the goverment who upholds the Constitution.
    I will vote for the goverment who doesn’t believe in shariah law,
    I will vote for the goverment who believes in States rights and upholds their rights to pass laws that helps them with crimes and drugs of illegals comings across their borders not taking up a lawsuit against them.
    I will vote for the goverment that doesn’t bow down to our enemies and treat our allies like crap. I will vote for the party that knows how to actually handle foreign policy. Who doesn’t allow a President of another counrty to come here and stand before our congress and speak against our own country.
    I will vote for a goverment who doesn’t believe the should controll every aspect of our live, who think that they know better than us. Who will pass a horrible health care bill but exempt themselves from it because it is not good enough for them only for us.
    If you think you are voting for the goverment that is not for the patriot act then you better check with your all mighty leader that upheld it.
    I will vote for the governemt that doesn’t believe in a global government or a global enconomy.
    I will vote for a that is will to listen to the people that voted them into office.
    You see I am not tied to a party I am tied to who will do what is right, but from what I can see that is mostly the Republican Party.
    If a democrat had any morals and was the better person for the job than I would vote for that person. You probably are not will not educate yourself enough on each canidate because you have been so lefist brainwash that you will never see what they are really doin to this country. Open your eyes before your all your freedoms have been taken away from you.

    • Alicia

      ME TOO!

      • Airangel

        Me Three! Let Freedom ring! Let’s Liberate America again!

        • MichelleO

          AMEN AND ME FOUR!!!!!!!!

          • American Citizen

            A vote here, too. Why is it women who mostly understand what is at stake?

    • JC

      Good stuff golf gal!

  • DAVID SUNKLE

    YES, GOOD EXAMPLE.? AGAIN, IF WE WOULD JUST VOTE EVERYONE OUT OF “WASHINGTON” ON 11/10 AND AGAIN IN 11/12. MOST OF THESE PROBLEMS WOULD DISSAPEAR. SEND ALL “ILLEGALS” BACK HOME. THEY COMPLAIN ABOUT RACISM,AND,DISCRIMINATION. ALL WE ASK IS TO DO THE RIGHT THING.!! BECOME “LEGAL”. THE FREE RIDE IS OVER. MOST PEOPLE IN”AMERICA” DO NOT COMPLAIN ABOUT I.D. CHECKS. I AM PROUD TO SHOW MINE.I AM ALSO AM RETIRED MILITARY. “GOD BLESS AMERICA”. GIVE “US” OUR COUNTRY BACK. REPEAL THE FEASCO “CALLED HEALTH CARE” USE OUR OWN OIL. WE HAVE ENOUGH OIL IN ALASKA,MONTANA,NEBRASCA.WYOMING TO SUBSTAIN OUR COUNTRY FOR A VERY LONG TIME. BRING OUR WORK FORCE BACK HOME. QUIT OUTSOURCING.BUY “AMERICAN”

    • Avis

      Great comment David!! So true!

    • Norm

      DAVID SUNKLE
      I bet you enjoy your VA medical coverage, and government pension. Don’t bite the hand that feeds you.

      • JC

        Don’t bite the hand that feeds you…spoken like a true Obamunista.

      • Bud in San Antone

        NORM, VA AND MILITARY REITREMENT BENEFITS ARE EARNED AND ARE NOT HANDOUTS. MANY OF US FOUGHT FOR THE RIGHT FOR YOU TO BE AN IDIOT. TAKE A BREAK MAN I BELIEVE YOU”VE OVERSTRESSED YOUR LITTLE PEA BRAIN

      • http://libertyalert scoobie

        HEY IF HE PUT IN HIS TIME WHY SHOULD HE NOT BE ABLE TO USE HIS BENEFITS.

    • Mrs. N. Hale

      Right youn are David. Thank you for your service to our country.

  • Nicholas Wishek

    Absolutely right. Great column. Best quote, by Alexander Fraser Tytler, it nails the problem.

  • http://None Mariano Q. Casilum

    WE COULD HAVE AVOIDED THESE CATASTROPHIC ILLS OF OUR ONCE GREAT COUNTRY IF THE MEDIA INCLUDING OUR ONLY FOX NEWS AND bill o’reilly WEW NOT DIRELIC OF THEIR SOLEMN DUTIES TO EXPOSE THE INELIGIBILTY OF “THE KENYAN-MUSLIM NATIVE IMPOSTOR AND FRAUD ILLEGAL president HUSSEIN-obamA”. IN EFFECT, THE BIG MOUTH joe biden “BITE ME” WAS ILLEGALLY ELECTED AS AN ILLEGAL vp. GOD BLESS AMERICA AND ITS PEOPLE.

    THE NO LONGER SILENT MAJORITY AMERICA

    • Smilee

      WOW, that’s a lot of HATE you reveal about yourself, I’ll bet your not to happy a person either

      • gary

        I bet when all that hate as you call it, is directed at you, they won’t call you Smilee anymore. Get ready!

        • Smilee

          gary

          you sure have a lot of trouble coming up with anything intelligent to say, I got to then assume you are not to intelligent.

          • Palin12

            Smelly, do you mean not “too intelligent”?

          • Smilee

            Palin12 says:
            June 25, 2010 at 5:39 pm

            What do you think silly one??????????

      • JC

        Don’t let the big letters scare you smilee, he’s just stating an obvious truth.

      • American Citizen

        Why do you call telling the truth “hate”? That’s why Gen.McCrystal was fired, he couldn’t stand any more of Obama’s dithering. For telling the truth, he lost his job.

        • Claire

          American Citizen–The truth can sometimes hurt. A lot. What do you think of his replacement? I have mixed feelings. I am always so wary of people that Obama appoints.

        • http://libertyalert scoobie

          Go General.

        • http://libertyalert scoobie

          Go General. nobama the truth hurts.

    • Todd from TX

      It’s amazing that when something is pointed out that it’s called Hate.. must be a lefty calling it.

  • Hoss

    To. WhyName.
    Someone must have hit a nerve in your hiney to cause you to spout all that righteous Liberal talk. It sure sounds like you are part of the problem and not part of the cure.
    I agree with LadyOGolf! way to go babe!

    • Smilee

      Hoss says:
      June 25, 2010 at 8:54 am

      AS usual you got it backwards, so typical of you far right wing radicals and your type is the problem,never you have any solution. POLITICS IS LIKE DRIVING YOU PUT IT IN “D” TO GO FORWARD AND IN “R” TO GO IN REVERSE (BACKWARDS)

      • gary

        We sure as hell are not going forward! I would say down the tubes would be a better example.Holy [offensive word removed], this guy smiley is stupid beyond belief. WOW! LMAO

      • gary

        We sure as hell are not going forward! I would say down the tubes would be a better example.Holy crap, this guy smiley is stupid beyond belief. WOW! LMAO

        • Smilee

          gary

          You can’t tell up from down so it is reasonable to conclude you do not know the difference between forward and reverse either

          • American Citizen

            In reality, it’s the so-called Progressives who are taking us backwards.

        • Average Joe

          gary,
          Please ignor Smilee
          Smilee just comes here to stir the pot of Sh*t!… he won’t taste it….but he will offer to serve it up for us to swallow…no thnx Smilee…. since we aren’t eating what you are serving…you can eat you own pot of sh*t!…oh and don’t bother to reply…I have argued with you before…and you are not worth my time…..just keep eating…you are pretty much full of it already

          • Smilee

            Joey you were full of [offensive word removed] when I first met you as you have overeaten on the far right wing [offensive word removed] and this toxcity has shut down your brain and made it impossible for you to function anywhere near average as average does not exist in the sewer you live in.

          • Palin12

            Ohhh Smelly’s gettin’ madder by the minute. Control yourself, Old Man, your blood pressure’s going up!

          • Smilee

            Palin12 says:
            June 25, 2010 at 5:42 pm

            All your assumptions are totally wrong but I know you cannot help yourself as you lack the intelligence to understand us intelligent people so it is common for you to fall into this trap

          • Palin12

            Smileyboy, if you’re so intelligent, why do use “to” instead of “too” in your post above? Correct me if I’m wrong, I thought intelligent people know how to spell. I have a BS degree; what is your highest level of education?

          • Smilee

            Palin12

            You got the message sweetie and that all that counts, Brag Brag Brag who cares how educated you are as it has no value if you do not know how to use your education wisely as it is in your case.

          • Claire

            Palin12–Education is great. I wish I had attended college but I didn’t. If I had, I would have been an archaeologist, or maybe a marine biologist. I am a high school graduate and I also graduated from the school of hard knocks. After my kids started school I went to work. I made absolutely sure that I put out more work than anyone else, I made sure I was accurate in everything I did, and I am satisfied with the results and my life because I WANTED to get ahead. I will say this–I am surrounded by some college grads—they cannot spell, they cannot add in their heads, most of them cannot make a decision, half of them do not get to work on time, and some have a tendency to call in sick frequently, and a few have been fired. I will give credit to some of them that are brilliant in their work, and when I retire one of them will replace me. Nonetheless, I am pleased with my work performance and the results. I have nothing to be ashamed of. I have often thought that sometimes all the education in the world will not make a better person. Book knowledge, maybe, but sometimes a lack of common sense is apparent.
            Don’t get me wrong, I have nothing against a college education, I am merely pointing out a few facts, especially in my office.

          • Palin12

            Smiley
            Not use my education wisely? I think 32 years in the medical field proves I have done so.

          • Smilee

            Palin12 says:
            June 26, 2010 at 11:19 am

            In and of itself it proves nothing, I have know idiots and crooks in the medical professions, they exist at all levels from the uneducated to the most educated, I have known street smart uneducated accomplish much more than some educated and that’s not to say educated does not have the advantage and as for you, all we have to go on is your word and I do not put much stock in that based on your many comments here

          • Palin12

            Smelly
            Everytime I read your posts it just cracks me up how the liberals try to brainwash people into thinking they are so much more intelligent. Anyone that would just blindly follow Obama-Reid-Pelosi is a moron. I worked hard at my job, serving my communities in 3 states, and it provided me with a good living and I’m not giving any of it away to deadbeats, welfare bums, or illegal aliens.

          • KPL

            Intelligence and education are two different things. I work with PhD’s, some of the dumbest people I’ve ever met, and yet the guy sweeping the floors seems brilliant by comparison. Besides, is a degree from a liberal arts college really an education or an indoctrination, hmmm, think about that!

      • http://PersonalLibertyDigest Thomas the Citizen

        Hey smilee — this is for serious people who want to get our country back and we welcome solid debate. The joke website is elsewhere. If you have no competent opinion why not go somewhere else?

        • Smilee

          The fact you do not find it competent does not make it so, you have lost your country only in your own fantasy as those who represent your views have been the losers in recent years but that is not the same as losing your country and some now feel they have already gotten their country back. Sorry about the facts loser!!!! Nothing serious about you!!!

        • Norm

          Thomas the Citizen
          If you can’t win a debate using logic and facts, then revert to name calling and mud slinging. Typical neocon tactics.

          • Average Joe

            Norm says:
            Do you actually read the comments that you reply to? Of the two comments above you, only one calls anyone names…and it is the one directly above yours…… Remedial reading classes needed?
            We have upped our IQ’s…. Now,Up Yours!

          • Smilee

            Average Joe again proves he is way below average

      • http://libertyalert scoobie

        NO D FOR DUMB AND R FOR RIGHT

        • Average Joe

          Actually, I believe it is “D” for Delusional and “R” for Reality.

  • Buck

    As in his Title Geopolitical Mr. Woods is nothing more than a Republican trying to get that party elected. Its time to wake up!! and Realize the two party system is protected and revered for one purpose! and that is to divide the people and conquer them. Neither Party has the Common Peoples interest at heart. They always preach how good democracy is, but in reality what democracy does is allow 51% of the people can tell 49% of the people what to do. America is not a democracy but a Republic ( where 99% of the people cannot take the Rights of even 1%!) That is individual Freedom. Take time to Read and understand The Bill of Rights and The Declaration of Indedpendence and you will realize each Individual is soverign. The so called Leaders have only their interest on their minds. Wake up we don’t need them. Are we Men or Sheep?

    • JC

      I believe Mr Woods is a conservative…in fact he calls himself an “ultra conservative”,and I can relate. But I’ve never seen him plug for the Republicans.

  • gary

    Buck that is why we need to skip box 1 & 2, and go straight to box 3. Lets “get er done”.

  • gary

    Buck that is why we need to skip box 1 & 2, and go straight to box 3. Lets “get er done” men. Get outta the way sheep.

  • Mrs. N. Hale

    Wouldn’t it be wonderful if all the government workers, both elected and appointed who have voted for legislation or have been involved in decisions that are anti-American – that have been in opposition to our Constitution including laws Federal or State, were to be escorted by our brave military out of their offices and n*e*v*e*r be permitted to return. In November, let us take our country back!

    • Palin12

      November to Remember! I get the biggest prize of all, the defeat of Harry Reid (D-NV). Time to take out the trash. If I were Dirty Harry, instead of wasting his $25 million on attack ads, I’d start writing my concession speech. Reid has a favorability rating in Nevada of 9%. His only support comes from SEIU thugs.

    • slickporsche

      Do you know how to handle a weapon and shoot. That is what it will take. You believe in Voting, and do you also believe in the tooth fairy? Voting is what is leading this Republic to its demise.

  • Charles Thompson

    It sickens me that so many people get there opinions of politicians from sound bites, The View, Saturday Night Live, and TV late night talk shows. Never do they listen to the news are they get it from sources such as CNN or MSNBC. Hearing just one side of the point, and people such as Al Gore with his lies that even get into our schools as the truth corupting our childrens minds. I am doing what I can to wise people up, before its to late.

  • robert widby

    Government is only part of our lives, a very important part too. The writer explained the govt part well. We also, as a society, must make many changes too. Honesty, decency, ethical business practices and respect for one another and the laws of the land must be returned to every day life. I believe in God. I know many do not. But societies who render unto Ceasar [govt] the things that are his, and unto God the things that are His [those things listed above], generally thrive and stay free. I invite all Christians to pray and get active in proclaiming our faith to help us turn America around. God bless.

  • Al Malm

    There are reasons people immigrate to the U.S.A illegally. One: work, two: receive welfare benefits three: criminal activity. If they come here to commit crime, they will come regardless. So, how do we stop illegal immigrants coming for work and welfare benefits? Kill the incentives for coming here illegally

    Employers claim they are hiring illegals for jobs Americans won’t do. Not true. Low cost illegal immigrants give employers a competitive advantage. Their competitors, employing Americans with competitive wages and benefits, either go out of business or must hire illegals themselves. These are illegal employers. I say the real crime is creating demand by not paying Americans a wage that will provide a living for them.

    Severe punishment for hiring illegals, and discontinuing welfare benefits is the only way to solve this problem. Elected representatives will not stop the demand for illegals, unless heavily pressured by their constituents. Employer interests, gained through lavish campaign contributions and unethical lobbying, have compromised many of them. Of course illegals can’t vote . . legally, so we must be sure they don’t vote fraudulently.

    So, by all means, let’s provide a path to legal residency, for people who wish to become free Americans, but not until we eliminate the incentives for people crossing the border illegally.

    • Cathy J

      Well said!!!!

    • Cathy J

      Well Said!!!

  • Dale

    The map is the reason why the electoral college is so important to maintain.

  • http://www.urlfest.com Iamnotsure

    Could you address and article on what you feel we could do to vote as a republic and not a democracy?

  • Todd from TX

    Wow I notice that a lot of them blue ones are also border county’s… doesn’t that look suspisous….. And the real answer of why to let the illegals get amesity… oh come on Obombaaaaaa is america really that stupid to believe that you have any other reason to do that. Our border is nothing but a revolving door. Any other country in the world has more security at their border than we do. Not to mention they’d put us in jail and possibly shoot us if we entered their country illegally.. I think the Dem’s really just want to distroy our country. and get what they can for them self’s.

  • Todd from TX

    Oh the real big question is how much money is the drug cartel’s paying the Obama administration to keep the border so open to them.. That’s what I’d like to know.

    • slickporsche

      Hell Todd he might be the leader of the drug cartel. I would not put anything past this guy.

  • http://treasureislandartstudio.com gonzo riverside

    WE ‘THE AMERICAN BORN CITIZENS’ want the entire team OUT of OUR House.November WE VOTE.WE support Jon Voght,and HIS letter too mr.obama. WE support Arizona and it’s laws.The CONSTITUTION ,IS what WE STAND for.IT’S “OUR MORAL OUTLOOK WE HOPE TO CHANGE”.WE intend too EVICT THESE ATHEIST-EXTREMIST-ANTI-AMERICAN DEM’S. WE see exactly as MR.CHIP WOODS. OUR MESSAGE for the next 4 months is ” ALL HANDS ON DECK” October’s will be “LET’S ROLL” and for all ye who hate out there,sorry bout’ your luck.THIS has NOTHING too do with luck.THIS IS “HOMELAND SECURITY”.

  • Alicia

    Seems to me that BidBadJohn is giving some important statistics, however, looking at his figures, I can see that Clinton left at 2000 the same debt that Bush left at 2008, but he forgot to show how big our debt is now. Also he forgot that in 2006 started the democrat majority in Congress, they created a whole mess just to blame Bush, and they have the nerve to keep doing it in conjuction with the media. Please give us a break, we are not THAT ignorant. Stop living in the past to be able to create a better future for our kids.

  • FreedomFighter

    88888888-I agree with most of your wish list. However, it was the republicans that caused most of the mess that we are in now, I do not agree that we should put them back in power.——

    Both parties have been infiltrated by Marxist Progressive liberals, less so the Republicans, more so the Demonrats.

    It is up to US to pick conservatives that support restoration of the constitution and equal justice.

    The lies are thick, propaganda widespread the evil powerfull, but they dont have total control yet. We can still remove those currupt or Marxist killers of America and put this country back on the road of Freedom.

    FF

    • Hoss

      Right on.. You are totally correct. It was Reagan that gave ALOT of Mexicans amnesty back in the 80′s was it not? That when the crap hit the fan, well at least alot of the crap. We need a THIRD party in this country, and SOON. I’m really tired of those suck ass Democrats, AND those suck ass Republicans. Do I hear a AMEN?

      • Vicki

        We HAVE a third party. The Libertarian party. (www.lp.org)

        • KNPatriot

          Guys,

          If we vote for third party we are doomed as a country. Not because a 3rd party is a bad idea, but because it will split the ticket. We HAVE to vote for the best conservative candidate in the primaries then vote for the most conservative candiate in the general. THEN we have to stay engaged, keep after them to vote strictly conservative, email them, call their offices. VOTE them out if they don’t vote conservative. We did not get here overnight and we will not change it overnight. IF we STAY engaged, WE CAN WIN OUR COUNTRY BACK.

          • JC

            So what if 20% of the house was independent or libertarian?
            That’s 20% that can sway policy isn’t it?
            And when should we get started on this change?
            When would be a good time to do it?

            I think now is as good a time as any.

          • American Citizen

            You Libertarians need to start at the local levels and get people elected there first. I have voted for Libertarians there, but not national. It would be a vote wasted right now. People need to get used to a third party first. They can see what they stand for and do.

          • JC

            I agree AC. Start with town and city councils, Sherriffs, State and then Federal.
            Imagine if the Feds implemented socialist law and the rest of the country just sent back a note saying…”I don’t think so”. ;)

        • slickporsche

          Half of them lean towards the Democrats! What do you have? Nothing! well maybe you can cause a split vote, which is what the Dems are hoping for. You need to ask yourself one question. That is, do I want the dems to stay in power? If your answer is no, then you cannot afford to vote anyother way than republican. We have a good chance of getting them under control long enough to develop another party later. NOT NOW!

          • JC

            And the same old hamster wheel goes round and round…

          • Claire

            JC–I agree with you. Now is the time. If not, it will continue to be more of the same old politics as usual. I am finished with both parties. One is as lousy as the other. As far as I am concerned they are kaput. Done.

          • JC

            I understand slick’s thinking. It’s how everyone in this country thinks…and in my mind that is the problem. No offense to slick.
            People vote for the lesser evil and it’s ridiculous.
            We have GOT to break this charade of a system up somehow.

          • American Citizen

            Claire, since there is no “reply” under your name I’m doing it here. There are a lot of good conservatives running for the Republicans seats in this election. Check them out.

          • Claire

            American Citizen– I am not trying to be sarcastic–but I am really having a tough time with politics. I just do not trust any of them. I would gladly vote for a Conservative–but a TRUE Conservative. This is what I am having trouble with. It seems like when I think I have finally found someone then something happens and they are not what I thought they were.
            For example, here in Illinois Kirk is running for the Senate. Geez, I thought he was going to be about the best Illinois had to offer. Then the next thing I knew he was spouting off about getting a military award, and then his so-called service in the military, etc. Nothing but lies! He got caught, and he has made an ass out of himself. There is no one else I would vote for!
            For the life of me, why do politicians lie like that? Are they psychopathological liars or what? I just can’t seem to find honesty in anything regarding politics and government. I just can’t give any of them the benefit of a doubt anymore.

  • marc

    What ever happened to the “Made in the USA” campaign. I believe some some Dimocrat wiped that away and sold us to China bach in the 90′s. If we all just pay attention to the lables and put China back on the shelf we still may have a chance.” If youre not part of the solution YOU are part of the problem” BUY AMERICAN !

  • Al C

    The two party system has to exist, in order to be fair game in politics.
    It’s up to the people, to study each candidate carefully, and select the one with an aim that will be more beneficial to the citizens of the nation. Right now the majority of the people in our country, are misinformed about politics. We have sunk the ship, and we’re waiting for the rescue ship to get us out of peril.
    Our nation is in trouble, with a leader that is taking us down the wrong track, for lack of qualification. His socialist policies is not what, we the working class, will not tolerate. The country was not in very good shape, during the previous administration, and most likely
    that was the reason why our present president was elected, so he would repair whatever damage had been done by the previous administration, but instead the situation has gone from bad to worst.
    It’s imperative that in 2012 we do a better job of electing a leader that will save this country from socialism.
    GIVE ME LIBERTY, OR GIVE ME DEATH.!!!!.

    • Vicki

      The 2 party system has to exist under the First Amendment. That being said there is NO reason why 3rd or 4th parties should be suppressed. They are protected by the same Amendment. Any and all laws and election rules that favor 2 party vs any party must be struck down.

      The Disclose Act which further suppresses 3rd party speech must be stopped in the Senate (No big surprise. It squeaked by in the House)

      We must do as you said and study each candidate from ANY party and start voting ideals instead of “personalities/lessor of 2 evils”

      A third party CAN win and win big thanks to the general dis satisfaction of the American people with the current 2 most popular parties.

      Remember that in the beginning of this country, when parties were formed to select some canadates, the first 2 well known parties were not Democrats and Republicans.

      Good change can happen.

    • Buck

      Do some real investigating about the two Party system! They are totaly controled by The Puppet Masters. The Party Puppets change names but the strings that control are the same strings that control the masses (Money! that is created out of thin air).

      • JC

        For sure.

      • American Citizen

        It’s up to us voters to vet the candidates and vote accordingly.

        • American Citizen

          We also need to support them with some bucks as it takes a lot of money to do a campaign, unfortunately. That way, the candidates will not be beholden to big money.

          • Claire

            American Citizen–All politicians will take big money. They certainly will not turn down a big donation regardless of where it comes from. Money talks.

    • slickporsche

      I believe we started out with a single party and it was fine. The dems need to go, and then a little later the republicans.

      • JC

        Now there’s something worth thinking about.

  • Bruce

    Please correct the state of Wisconsin. The map is reversed. The greater Milwaukee area voted for Obama and most of the rest of the state voted for McCain. This map is ABSOLUTELY wrong!

    • Claire

      Bruce- My relatives in Wisconsin has told me the same info.

    • slickporsche

      Western Wisconsin is so liberal I could not stand it anymore and left the state.

      • libertytrain

        I’m there right now because of a family illness. I feel less safe in this environment than I would in any backwoods environments the libs are always putting down.

        • Claire

          libertytrain–And oh what I wouldn’t give to live in the country now. Backwoods or not.

          • libertytrain

            Yep – missing my secluded mountain home very much right now —

  • jjdebird

    This dem preees & congress majority began many years ago. Just after the Bush / Gore election, when Dems hated the election rules. Dems were also seeing red over computer counted elect results, stating how easy it would be to control the results. The dems then changed the rules on home lones so anyone could buy a home. This was done with the idea that people who did not fit the mold of other home owners could move in. Not race wise but number of fishin boats & dirt bikes in an up scale area. This worked better than they ever dreamed, people got loans for homes they could not aford, values dropped, & loans were not paid. This hit the largest asset of most americans hard, then things really got bad.
    All that was left was for the dems to find an unknown minority, use the researched marketing phrase they came up with, and they had to win. I really hope this is not the last minority elected for some time, but when you can not disagree with them and your are labled as racist, its takes away our right as americans to disagree. We should never elect a person because of their race, and like it or not, thats what many people did. I tend to forget we have a black president until the dems tell me I am racist or I am only uncomfortable bause we have a black president.
    It is only now comming to light how non-commital this prsit was in his past voting record. He often voted present, not yes or no, maybe thats how he hopes to keep the oil spill going as long as he can. As the novalty whears away from the press that we elected a black president (who cares, if you do then you maybe racists)they are slowly releasing things they should have published in the election. Even the press knows to abandond this ship before it implodes, except they must back out slowly or step in the traps they set along the way for anyone who disagreeded with them.

    • slickporsche

      Honestly now. Do you know any place on earth where the blacks are truly successful?? Why are they hated soooo very much all over the planet? If you really think about this you will understand what I mean. This is not really an opinion, simply something to think about. The truth is out there, you just need to be able to accept it for what it is.

      • JC

        Just an observation…How many black nations showed up to help Haiti?
        I read an article from a black journalist in Botswana who pointed this out, he said he was ashamed.
        Thing is though if it’s what nature intended through evolution or natural progression, fine.
        But why should it cost me money?

  • http://thecentralpastime.com Glen

    Looking at the map and paying attention to the western states. The blues are areas around colleges. Utah, Wyoming, Kansas, Oregon, Washington all of the blue areas are located near the colleges. The socialist teachers are doing thier best to spread the lefts dribble. I can’t explain rural Wisconsin except my Dad told me that you could run a dog on the dem ticket and he would win. We had some talks when I voted rep. It appears that people living away from population centers are able to think for themselves.

    • slickporsche

      I’m from Wisconsin and your dad was correct, you could run the North Korean president on the dems ticket and he would win. However a lot of the dems in Wisconsin are low income, uneducated sheep. Dumber than a box of rocks.

      • Claire

        slickporsche–I am from Wisconsin too. However, I believe your comment also applies to the Republican party. There are people that worship the Democrats and people that worship the Republicans. The sad truth is that both parties leave a lot to be desired.

        Slick Camaro

        • libertytrain

          Claire – I’m from Wisconsin too and got to tell you – admitted Republicans are far and few between in the Milwaukee and Madison regions—- they’d get their heads chopped off if they admitted their party —-

          • Claire

            libertytrain–I have relatives scattered all over the state, in many many different towns/cities. Some are Democrat, but most are Republican. I can remember my Grandma in Wisconsin (she came every summer and stayed with us) used to always say the Democrat party was for the poor and the Republican party was for the rich. Her and my Mother used to talk politics a lot when I was a little kid.

          • libertytrain

            Claire – I don’t think any Republicans were allowed in my family —- I voted mostly with the Demo’s until I had an epiphany ——

  • BrotherPatriot

    First…please take the time to not only read this message in it’s entirety but also the page that the link below goes to. If you do not actualy absorb what is being presented here…you most likely will continue to stay asleep to that which has been transpiring down through the years of History. I you want to know what’s really going on, then read on. It’s a compilation of information that my research has uncovered during the last 2 months of my personal investigation of current and past world matters. You may wish to read this page fully before goin to the following link.

    http://www.dragonflightguild.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=4874&p=26981#p26981

    Second…holy cow. I”m utterly baffled, stunned to the core of my being by what I have learned. I’m 40 years old, an Ex Navy SEAL and I feel like I’m just really waking up to see the world as it actually is. All my life I have suspected something was amiss, most likely you as well but you just never seem to put your finger on it. This now has changed for me. Though they are clever, they are human and they have made many mistakes that now reveal them for who and what they actually are…and…they live all around us. They most likely have a building near where you live, just like they do me.

    Obama is but a symptom of the Virus that infects the body of humanity. Even if we cure his part (though that would be a great way to start) of the equation, the equation will still be the same. Because, the ROOT level infection still persists. We have to get down into that ROOT of the problem and start our treatment there. There are 2 major ROOT issues that needs to be addressed before we can begin to recover from what they have been doing to us.
    1 – The Federal Reserve that JFK wanted to abolish. Do your own research on this…it’s unbelievable we have let them get away with this for so long. >,< We MUST start here. It's level 1 priority!
    2 – The core players who come together once a year and implement policy to their puppets…those group of people and their connections are the ROOT layers of the worlds problems. STOP talking about everything and start your probes there! Even though it's not their name, we call them the…BILDERBERGS. Have you even heard about the June 1st 2010 historical speech by Daniel Estulin infront of the British Parliament? Google those 2 words…Parliament Bilderberg.

    I have been doing this research for about 2 months actively and I have already come up with all this. I feel my junior level investigation should be well known by more than just me but I continue to be amazed by the simple fact that…people just DONT know. Don't get me wrong, I'm aware that there are many wise and talented people out there shouting this information out…I am but a messenger of them, infact. We just have to continue to get the word out. It's not a Conspiracy Theory when the evidence is historical facts. It's a Conspiracy FACT…! Time to start taking action people, we don't want to get on the third "box" and that is where we will be forced to be if we continue to take no action.

    Get off your butts Americans and the rest of the people of this world. You have been at war for along time now but just never knew it. I think that's changing however as more and more of us are waking up.

    • slickporsche

      I know exactly what you are talking about, and I have been trying to tell people for years, but I get labeled nut case. Therefore, I felt it better to shut up, because there are too many smelly sheepies out there. It is really really sad. It deeply saddens me, but I know deep in my heart, the only way out is box #3. If we truly want America, I’m sure we will need to fight and die for the cause. It is too late for voting, because the big players have all their ducks in a row and know how to get the sheep to follow them to the slaughter. They are laughing right now, knowing how pathetic and trusting we are. They are using our idealism against us. Like a sucker punch

    • Average Joe

      BrotherPatriot,

      The Federal Reserve that JFK wanted to abolish. Do your own research on this…it’s unbelievable we have let them get away with this for so long. >,< We MUST start here. It's level 1 priority!
      Many people wpuld not know how to start researching this subject, so I will help to get them started. Look up Executive Order 11110, signed by JFK.

      On June 4, 1963, President John F. Kennedy signed Executive Order No. 11110 that returned to the U.S. government the power to issue currency, without going through the Federal Reserve (US Central Bank). Mr. Kennedy's order gave the Treasury the power "to issue silver certificates against any silver bullion, silver, or standard silver dollars in the Treasury." This meant that for every ounce of silver in the U.S. Treasury's vault, the government could introduce new money into circulation.

      As a result, more than $4 billion in United States Notes were brought into circulation in $2 and $5 denominations. $10 and $20 United States Notes were never circulated but were being printed by the Treasury Department when Kennedy was assassinated.

      BTW, this executive order is still in effect. It has never been overridden by any sitting President since it was written.

      As a footnote, On November 22, 1963 JFK was assassinated in Dallas. On that very same day all of those United States notes started being pulled from circulation and the Federal Reserve Added 50 billion dollars in "new" Federal Reserve Notes…which were now redeemable in nothing…other than more FRN's….on that day, Our dollar officially became fiat currency…backed by nothing other than a promise to pay….eventually.

  • http://na Gary

    We haven’t had any one good to vote for in a long time and by the time
    it’s Orgeon’s turn to vote no one worth voting for is left, Plus there
    already anouceing the winner. How do you think that fill’s.
    Someday there going to go to far and well see a civil war!

    • American Citizen

      It’s time all the states hold their primary on the same day just as is the national election. I, too, hardly ever get to vote for the candidate of my choice. They should add all the votes each candidate gets in the primaries to see who runs in the national election. It’s sickening the way things are run now.

  • jopa

    Alicia; I believe Big John was posting pork barrel spending .What was not mentioned was the fact that Bush did’nt pay for the war as we went along and it was put on the old credit card for close to a trillion dollars.That’s why President Obama’s numbers look high because of Mr. Bushes trillion dollars that most people claim as Obama’s spending but are just a part of his openess and transparency with the American people.

    • http://libertyalert scoobie

      HEY MAYBE EVERYTHING IS BUSH’S FAULT! NOT.

  • bob pa

    VALIRCOSLASH I LOVE YOUR IDEA OF READING THE CONSTITUTION AND BILL OF RIGHTS AND DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE. AND WE NEED AN ADMENDMENT TO HAVE A 3/4 THS VOTE TO INCREASE OF TAXES. ALSO NO ENTITLEMENTS TO NONCITIZENS.

  • Vicki

    FOUR boxes. There are 4 boxes for us to use to defend our freedom. The 3rd box is the Jury box. That is where we vote to nullify unjust law such as a law against possession of a fire arm. Or of the Disclose Act were to become law it is in the Jury box that we move to strike down the law by voting “Not Guilty” in any trial of those of us who would dare to step on to the soap box (Box 1).

    Chip is right that we never never want to have to open the 4th box.

    • Average Joe

      Vicki,
      Thanks so much for your post.
      I have been trying for years to get people to understand not only their duty to be jurors, but also their rights as a juror. As a juror, you are more powerful than all of the lawmakers,Congress,Judiciary and even the POTUS. As a juror, you have the right to overturn any law that is not Constitutional…ANY law, regardless of what the judge says the “Law” is. Just because a law is written down on a piece of paper….does not make it right….nor does it make it law. The Uniform Commercial Code (U.C.C.)…the code by which all courts in this nation operate under states in U.C.C. 1-103 that all laws within the United States of America “must be construed in harmony” with the Constitution and that any law that isn’t in harmony with the Constitution…is in fact….NOT LAW! Anyone who does not believe this…needs to look up UCC 1-103 and verify this for themselves. If we as a people would actually take the time to learn the rules of their game and then started to exercise that knowledge….things would definately change for the better for the people….and finally put the Government in their respective place…as our servants…dependent on us…not the other way around.

      I would recomend in the future not to use the term “jury Nullification”, although it is the correct term…most people hear only the word nullify…and as such we are labled right off the bat as…”nutjobs”…simply because….they don’t understand the concept…that not all laws are in fact laws. You can simply ask :
      Do you know what your rights and responsibilties are as a juror…then inform them of both. you can even direct them to this site…or others that explain this in full detail….
      http://www.patriotnetwork.info/Citizens_rule_book.htm
      Again, thank you for your post and keep up the good work!

      • Vicki

        You’re welcome. http://www.fija.org is a good place to go. As to the term Jury Nullification I kinda thing we should reclaim it and not buy into the demonization.

        • Average Joe

          Vicki,
          thnx for the link…knowledge is power for those who know how to wield it.

    • slickporsche

      Why?

  • chuck b

    you people crying for a third party and blaming both parties for the ills of our country need to reconsider your thought, i did. do you think for a minute that you have enough people dissatisfied with both parties they will jump right in to a third!
    think again, you will only help re-elect these same communist type politicians we have now. we need to consolidate our power in the existing republican party, vote out the rino faction, elect conservatives. you read what the pawns for the demo party write on this blogg, these people live off the government dole and will continue to vote for the communist party (democrat). if they get amnesty for the illegals it won’t make any difference, the illegal vote will wipe out the conservatives and you will see the end of our republic.

    howe, you said it well!!

    • Vicki

      For many more years that I care to count I voted for the lessor of 2 evils. Guess what I got for my trouble. Just look around.

      Vote Libertarian. Its the only way to be sure.

      • slickporsche

        Chuck has a good point Vicki, and I think from a view point of many years of experience, you are dead wrong. Yes we need a new government, but now is not the time. If you vote the way you are talking you will give the dems another 4 years+. It has happened this way twice in the past that I can remember.

        • Average Joe

          slickporsche,
          I must concur, however I think what we need to do is oust every single incumbant…regardless of party. This will send a message to them all….listen to “us” or face the unemployment line. If things don’t change with the next batch…repeat the process…remember, they want to “stay in power”…the thought of losing that privledge may just turn them around. If that doesn’t work, then the exercize of our second amendment rights may be the new flavor of the day….God forbid that they allow it to go that far.

  • http://na Gary

    marc, right on. but it’s hard to find made in USA

    • truesoy

      It should be noted, too, that it was a republican president, Richard Nixon, that open the ‘flood gates to China’ when he visited there and shook hands with Chairman Mao. And ever since things have not been the same in the U.S. Amazingly this was seen as smart foreign policy. And I don’t remember hearing then nor now any republican voice of dissent. This is specially shocking because Mao caused the dead of approx. 65 million chinese citizens.
      So, it is good to remember that no matter who accuses whom of dealing with China now, that, the original sin was republican made.

      • American Citizen

        Now China owns so much of our debt due to the present administration, that they own us. We are at their mercy so we need to stay on good terms with them.

  • Diana Lehua

    As long as the government can print money, they have control over us. The powers-that-be need to keep us divided and distracted, so the money can continue to be printed. It’s a lot easier to print money than it is to ask citizens to give up their silver or gold for a war, politician pay raise, or some government pork project. Guaranteed, there would be fewer wars if governments could not print money. Would you give up some of your silver or gold to support the war in Afghanistan? Abolishing the Federal Reserve will go a long way towards reclaiming our country. Now THAT is a “change” that would have a huge positive impact.

  • Tanarus

    We seem to be stuck in a Republicrat hamster wheel. Both party’s fear the Tea party because they know what it represents. It frightens them! So naturally they going to demonize them as racist, or this or that. Nothing is further from the truth! Tea party folks are concerned citizens who are unhappy at the direction this country is headed. The more I listen to the Libertarian party platform. The more it appeals to me. Do America and your self a favor…vote (“Constitutional Republicans”)

    • American Citizen

      The Tea Party is not a political party but a grassroots movement.

      • Claire

        American Citizen–It may have started out as grassroots and I thought it was great but I certainly no longer think of it as such. Especially since Fox News has become involved and the Republicans. I don’t care for Republican RINOS. In my town the tea party has become the Republican party. No thanks.

    • JC

      The Tea Party is a “Constitutional” movement. That’s why it scares them both. Imagine having their power limited and being held accountable? Takes the fun right out of being a politician doesn’t it?

  • D

    All of you folks except for Linda and the narrow thinking liberals have good ideas, but the real culprit as brotherpatriot states is the Fed. Read the book “Creature from Jekyll Island” and you will understand. The other issue is term limits. These are two political issued that every candidate should be questioned as to where they stand. If they oppose the Fed and are for term limits then they should be put into office regardless of party affliation.
    Thank You

    • slickporsche

      Yes D and very good. You are correct

    • JC

      End the Fed, which is unelected, not Federal and has NO Reserves.
      It’s a bunch of International Criminals and we don’t need them here.

  • bob pa

    EVELIN AND PAPPY THE TWO OF YOU DO NOT KNOW WHAT THIS COUNTRY IS ALL ABOUT. WE ARE ABOUT FREEDOM AND LIBERTY. THE GOVERNMENT THAT GOVERNS BEST IT THE GOVERNMENT THAT GOVERNS LEAST. PEOPLE WHO HAVE HAVE EARNED IT IN SPITE OF BEING TAXED AT 70% OF THEIR EARNINGS. WHEN 20% OF THE PEOPLE WORK HARD AND ARE TAXED TO DEATH AND AFTER DEATH AND THE REST OF THE PEOPLE LIVE OFF THE 20% WHO ARE SLAVES TO 80%. THE20% WHO GIVE THEM JOBS. THE 80% THINK THEY HAVE THE RIGHT TO MONIES. THE CONSTITUTION GUARENTEES YOU THE RIGHT TO TRY NOT A RIGHT TO SUCCEED THAT DEPENDS ON YOUR ABILITY. DID YOU DEDICATE YOUR LIFE AND MONIES TO GET A JOB. NO YOU DID NOT YOU ASKED FOR A JOB AND DID IT FOR WAGES.YOU DO NOT HAVE A RIGHT TO OTHERS MONEIS. IF YOU TAX THE DOERS TO DEATH WHO WILL GIVE YOU A JOB OR FOOD OR CLOTHING OR HOUSING? WHEN EVERYONE HAS NOTHING THEN CIVILAZITION WILL CEASE AND CHAOS AND ANIMAL INSTINCTS WILL COME FOWARD AND IT WILL BE DOG EAT DOG. IF THAT IS WHAT YOU BELEIVE IN THEN VOTE LIBERAL SOCIALIST PROGRESSIVE AND THAT IS WHAT YOU WILL GET. IT WILL BE WORSE THAN YOU CAN THINK.

    • Tommie Walker

      AMEN!!! And, AMEN!!!! If you don’t have your heart in America, with our Constitution, Bill of Rights, and the belief in GOD??? Then move to effin CHINA!!!!

      • slickporsche

        Nah! Afghanistan would be perfect. A good place for the liberals to have their dream. A Democracy.

        • JC

          Wide open spaces, plenty of fresh air…

          • American Citizen

            Afghanistan is a mountainous country. That’s why it’s so hard to fight the enemy there. The Russians gave up after 17 years.

  • http://OutlookExpress Lois Barger

    Sorry to say but I am a registered Democrat but sure doesn’t mean I vote that way! I vote for the best man (woman) and last election, I voted for Ron Paul as I refused to vote for either of the other two and knew I was throwing my vote away—on purpose. This country is going to pot in a hurry with this low down rat in the White House and with Nancy Pilosi. People have got to study things more closely and right now run most of those Democrat’s out of the White House including Obama as don’t feel he is even an American as wasn’t born here!

    Lois Barger (88 yrs of age)

    • slickporsche

      What ever happened to the Democratic Party????? AT one time it was a good party. It has now,”gone to hell in handbasket”.

  • Joe W.

    LINDA, who says she didn’t see Republicans complaining when George Bush was elected over Al Gore in 2000. You miss the point completely and volumes, if not tomes, of complaints were written by your like-minded liberals. Your accusation of “manipulating statistics” stands pale next to manipulating people and counting the dead (read ACORN) in garnering votes.

  • Special K (NJ)

    We agree that it’s clearly the case
    That in any national political race
    A Democrat can concentrate
    On getting votes in fewer states
    Where dependent folks are concentrated in limited space.

    However, area and population statistics aside,
    Two or three folks in the Congress decide
    Which way things will go,
    E.g., Specter, Collins and Snow
    (In dereliction) enabled a bailout otherwise denied.

    And just think of what one vote can do
    (If it swings other votes–just a few)
    Like that of B. Stupak
    (Demonstrating of conviction a lack)
    Who put us all in an “ObamaCare stew”.

    By inference, it become super important
    To vote for Congressional candidates
    Who will stand up for doing what’s right
    And against the opposite, closing the gates.

    • das aardvark

      Moderate to mediocre poetry that falls flat in the last stanza. What rhymes with important?

      Snowe’s failure leaves me indignant!

  • Annie Ladysmith

    The problem with this, although sounding very patriotic and the Tea Party would love it, the reality is much more complicated. The idea that the neo-cons like Bush and Cheney were not as corrupt as the Jackass and his Marxists is ridiculous! BUSH (Boy) signed the Marshall Law Act, the so-called “Patriot Act”, Nixon devalued our money by taking us off the gold standard in one fell swoop and on and on.

    History shows that it doesn’t matter what kind of jackass they put in the white house, all that comes out is evil and treachery,and has been going on a very long time. The human heart is evil, people are selfish, they take care of themselves first and politicians are no different. You are talking idealism in a world that grows continuously more corrupt, depraved, and criminal from the eschelons of government on down the line. Why do we expect honesty and integrity when the entire country has turned away from the basic salvation plan of Almigthy God? What do we have instead?

    Abortion of full term pregnancies, exploding child pornography, no birth rate (yeah, abortion again), NO FATHERS, single mom families growing up drug addicts and criminals, people in debt over what can only be called junk from China (and they talk about our junk bonds), prisons filled with rapists and murderers who get put back on the streets due to overcrowding and this is called justice, high school grads that might as well be called high school drop-outs because they are so dumb, a military that is so completely out of control that they do whatever they want and ditto for NASA and the CIA.
    There is so much corruption and barbarian debauchery that this nation has already been judged and it is going down.

    “I have given her time to repent of her immoraltiy, but she is unwilling. So I will cast her on a bed of suffering…I will strike her children dead”. People there is no way out of what is coming on this country, only repentance is left, but the fire will come wither from China or Russia or Yellowstone, and likely it will be a mixture of man’s murderous evil, because God’s protection is gone, and God’s wrath which is long overdue.

    Sorry, I don’t believe in a good news turnaround, just like the gulf the evil continues to sprue and no-one is even trying to cap it. The churches, ALL OF THEM, are a part of this evil. Don’t think you can go to your catholic mass or seven-day sabbath and find the truth, you won’t. Seek, knock, ask, read Matthew and tremble, or face what’s coming with nothing but your own pathetic soul to suffer and die and burn FOREVER. Sorry, it’s not the world I want either, but, this is the plain truth.

    • slickporsche

      Annie you are painfully correct and it scares me, but I too know what is coming. I also fear it might not be very far off.

    • BrotherPatriot

      Annie…I do not concur with you. As a former Navy SEAL we are trained to never give up. We think we can win even when we are losing…this mindset isn’t just reserved for special forces, it is the American mindset and it indeed does let us win even against overwhelming odds. I refuse to believe it’s to late for us.

      Attitude means everything. I suggest you all change your personal feeling of being defeated because that is EXACTLY what the Bilderberg/Rothschild/Virus wants you to feel like. They want us to just roll over and die…NOT!!!

      Tell everyone you know about the reality of who exactly has been keeping us all down. It’s the Rothschild/Bilderberg/Trilateral Commisson/Virus…if you do your research you will find out who those people are…(hint…skull & bones). Become active in your voting and research who the candidates are…if they are attached to any of those groups or the CFR…pass them up in your vote.

      God Bless

  • Fredrick R Smith

    I think it’s time that we quit being republicans, democrats, independants, etc. We need to start being Americans, that beleive in our Constitution, and our way of life. I personally don’t care what political party a person belongs, as long as that person is willing to be true to our country and our Constitution. I understood the article, and agree. However, it is critical that all Americans watch the people in power, and stop anyone that does not uphold our Constitution, wheather they are Republicans or Democrats. By allowing illegals, Mexican or anyone else, into our country, without the proper chanels, they are breaking the law the same as the people that are coming into our country illegal. We don’t need new laws or amesty, we just need our current laws enforced. There are more prayer blankets left in the desert in Arizona than there are tacos. What’s that tell you. Mexican’s are not generally muslims. Wake up!
    Fredrick R Smith

    • das aardvark

      Hey, FRS! Gotta question. have you been out there in the desert, down in the arroyas, where the sand-trout shed all their paraphrenalia before stepping out onto the highways and dirt roads for their rides? have you seen the overflowing dumps that these arroyas have become? have you counted the number of abandoned backpacks per mile? No? Yes? There are few tacos, for the simple reason that there are few taco stands along the arroyas, but the numbers of the other pieces definable of trash are staggering. I’ve seen the pack packs, I’ve seen the left behind shoes, boots, thongs, sandals, shirts, pants, piles of human feces, and other stuff, but I have to admit that I have never seen a prayer blanket . . . prayer wheels, yes; prayer ribbons, yes: prayer blankets, no. Where are the ‘thousands” that you imply are there to be found? Wake up, Damnfool. Sand-nigs do not leave their prayer blankets behind. That would earn them Allah’s feces in their mother’s milk, or did not you know?

      • slickporsche

        LMAO Muslims LMAO Useless

    • Jimmy

      Fred was making good sense there…… Right up till he hit the Prayer Blanket thing….. Damn…. Missed it by THAT MUCH…….

    • http://libertyalert scoobie

      DITTO: WHAT ABOUT THE ILLEGAL MUSLIMS COMING ACROSS THE BORDER, AND THOSE THAT INTEND TO DO HARM TO OUR CITIZENS. ALL WE HEAR ABOUT ARE THE ILLEGAL ALIENS (THEY ARE BAD NEWS), WHAT ABOUT THE TERRORISTS?

    • BrotherPatriot

      His point was to say that it’s not just illegal mexicans coming across the border. Indeed, there has been some prayer matts being found amongst the rest of the garbage as well. So, aside from the minor issues you brought up, Fred is right on the money, really…IMO.

      We need to stop biting each other and recognise who the real enemy is. I also don’t care what party anyone is attached to…so long as they do their sworn duty and uphold the Declaration of Independence, the Bill of Rights and the Constitution of the United States…!

      United we stand…divided…we will fall. I agree with you, Fred. WAKE UP (not just America but the world in general)…!!! Their goals effect every single person & future people alike…if we let them. Tell your friends what is happening…let them know that after all, there actually is someone we can blame. The Bilderbergs and their entire network of criminals.

  • truesoy

    Chip Wood obviously forgot to take into account when arriving to his conclusion that, people vote, real estate does not. So it should be obvious to reason that those areas where the majority of the people is would have a decisive effect on a national election. If those people were to spread throughout the region, then, it only reasons to assume that the blue area would be larger than the red area. Again, you know, or should have known that it is people that vote and not real estate. Better yet, The United States is the people, and the people spoke in the last election.

    • American Citizen

      The blue and red indicate how the majority of the people living in those areas voted, not the real estate.

  • http://ActionAmerica.org John Gaver

    It’s quite true that the deadbeats are voting themselves more handouts, at the expense of those who actually work for a living and that we are indeed following the “fatal sequence” described in the supposed Tytler quote (supposed, since there is zero evidence to support Tytler ever writing or saying it).

    The problem is that the deadbeats forget one thing. Unlike the deadbeats, the successful people who are paying the bills for them, can afford to leave. If their share of the tax burden gets to the level that it becomes punitive, the wealthy not only can, but will leave. After years of increasing flight of the successful, even the New York Times has finally glommed on to that fact.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/26/us/26expat.html

    Although it’s difficult to get people to talk about expatriation, the respected polling firm, Zogby International tried to put a number to it. They had this to say (emphasis added):

    “1.6 million U.S. households had already determined to RELOCATE abroad; an additional 1.8 million households were seriously considering such a move, while 7.7 million more were “somewhat seriously” contemplating it. If the data collected in the seven polls conducted between 2005 and 2007 are fairly representative of the current decade, then, by a MODEST estimate, at least 3 MILLION U.S. citizens a year are venturing abroad.”

    Notice that they used the word “relocate”. Read the entire report and you’ll see that they were excluding those who were sent overseas by their company or the government. Read the entire report here:

    http://www.zogby.com/templates/printsb.cfm?id=17996

    The question that you have to ask is, “How many of that 3 million expats a year are poor?” Think about it…

    Look at the income levels of the top 1%, 5% and 10% of income earners are and then ask yourself which income groups you think are the majority of that 3 million expats a year. See that data here:

    http://www.actionamerica.org/taxecon/irsdata.shtml

    Consider the fact that the top 5% of income earners pay more than 60% of the total personal income tax load. Then use your own common sense, to figure out which income groups are leaving or can even afford to leave. You’ll realize that all that the deadbeats are doing, in voting themselves largess from the government, is driving away those who are paying the bills.

  • http://personalliberty.com David15

    We need to start with the correct name

  • http://personalliberty.com David15

    The correct name is not illegal aliens, although the ILLEGAL part is close to right.

    The correct name is INVADERS of the ongoing invasion!!

    • JC

      How about Insurgents? Seems fitting.

      • Ricky

        HOW ABOUT JUST MEXICANS

        • JC

          You mean like they are tourists or something? Not criminals…but tourists?
          Fine if they get tourist visas and leave on time…Or citzenship or a work visa…

          till then, they’re criminals and insurgents.

    • truesoy

      Funny, that is what native americansm, too, called the european immigrants.

      • JC

        Really? I thought they called us boat people. ;)

        • truesoy

          Probably you should take a course in native american history, it will increase your knowledge on this issue.

          • JC

            It was a joke…lighten up!

  • http://herringtons.home.mindspring.com lighterknot

    One blue sky above us one ocean lapping all our shores; wonder why they are blue instead of red? Well don’t worry if we put the republicans back in The White House we won’t be able to see the sky, and our oceans will be a radish oily color.

    Besides all that red interior is mostly space owned by wealthy land owners. Their prairie dogs and livestock probably haven’t voted yet but I expect them to soon. Red is a hot violent color representing the GOP’s madness and destination Hell.

    As I see it; the democrats are trying to grow wings for an economy driven over a cliff and abandoned in free fall by the GOP’s near do son of the older Bush. I doubt they can save it and will likely get all the blame for the crash.

    I believe however we go into the future we must find ways to keep the individual sovereign in body and mind and a right to justice.

    • JC

      And you think that putting us trillions of dollars into debt, welfare, opening our borders and printing money like it’s going out of style are going to do the trick?
      That’s an amazingly ignorant position to take.

    • American Citizen

      Where did you get your education?

  • MT man

    All I can say is Obama needs to be IMPEACHED.

    • BrotherPatriot

      First though…we have to take out Peloski. She is the key holder and nothing will change until we first take her & the rest of the infiltrators out. Then…we take down Obama. Very educated people are aware of this and are taking the moves (legally) to do just that. If they tip their hand to hard…we’ll have them…so, like a chess game…it’s one piece (move) at a time.

      No point in revealing our hand to just a bunch of puppets.

  • Delores Smith

    CHIP WOOD – BRILLIANT ARTICLE & MAP – THANK YOU!!

    I can do all that you suggest now that I’ve read your article and viewed your beautiful map. Guess what sentence I love the most, except for all of the facts? It is, “What can we do about it?” Unless we ask ourselves that question when we bring out information, we will stand in one spot always as we continue to speak. I am in the process of contacting all governors to encourage them to enact a law similar to that of Arizona. We need to take back power that Obama and his majority have continued to grab from us.
    Chip, I don’t like the third box. Obama has been angering all groups of people, I believe, in order to stir up things. Change the third box to “Our Minds – Come Up with More Ideas.” Obama could only be angering all people for a purpose. When Americans have continued to stay in control as we await elections, Obama has turned to the illegals. Why? Obama is looking for a way to enact emergency acts now on the books for another power-grab. Let’s not fall into his trap. Thanks, Chip.
    Delores Smith
    Delores109@cox.net

    • TIME

      Delores, I agree with you 100% Great Blog Chip.

      As I seem to recall I am away from my office but I think we have a tad over 50% of the US Population that either works for the Government
      or is on WF, Unions etc. Thats some hard odds to crack, but I think we can do it.

      As noted by one posted the “Change” that people got is not quite what they were thinking about as far as change.

      There is nothing like loosing your home, or your job to really wake a person up to whats really going on.

      I say a hand up not a hand out!

      Teach the person to fish don’t just keep giving them fish.
      Problem solved.

      • http://libertyalert scoobie

        RIGHT ON IF THE DEAD BEATS CAN’T FEND FOR THEMSELVES THE PERISH, THEY WILL LEARN QUICKLY TO FEND FOR THEMSELVES.

  • Ricky

    ALL I CAN SEE I THINK THE ELECTROAL VOTE SOULD BE DONE AWAY WITH .LET THE PEOPLE VOTE NOT THE MAKE UP VOTES ..ALL YOU NEED IS A PICTURE ID WITH FINGER PRINT TO VOTE …IS THAT TO HARD OR WILL IT ELEMATE A LOT OF ILLEGEILS OR FORNERS THAT HAVE OVERSTAED THEIR VISA ????? THINK ABOUT IT …HOW HARD WOULD IT BE ?????

    • American Citizen

      The electoral vote makes all of our votes count. Otherwise, the states with the big cities would rule every election.

      • http://libertyalert scoobie

        WHO IS TO SAY THE ELECTORATE WILL VOTE THE WAY THE ARE SUPPOSED TO?

    • BrotherPatriot

      My two cents on this…

      The popular vote should have more weight. I’m not intelligent enough to know how this should apply…but when the vast majority of America wishes and votes one way but the polititions force a different outcome on us…well, that’s not right. Period. Of course if we let the people in power have their way & then legalize all these illegal aliens…Pow…suddenly they have a whole new voting base of supporters…go figure. So yes, before this happens we need to act on this suggestion…or keep it in mind once we set everything right in our Government.

  • eddy james

    the liberals say that the universities are in the blue areas yadda yadda, yadda, that just BS the leaches that are liberals move to the cities because that’s where the free hand outs are. It helps to be near the welfare offices are. The free clinics are nice when you get a dose of the clap. You can use the emergency rooms, they are free you know.Of course the IQs are higher in these areas,but that’s because of all the capitalist workers that pay for it all. Like Detroit now is a union paradise where socialist values have shown us the way. Every thing should be free right? it’s your right to be a leach. there will always be some one else to pay for it.Maybe career politicians should be taxed 75% of their income including benefits and kickbacks.No retirement for them, no more government employees unions. spread the money around think of all the free hand outs if government employees were not keeping it for themselves.

    • Karolyn

      It’s not “leaching” it’s asking your brother or sister for help, and I’m not embarrassed to say I have been helped over the past 5 years with Food Stamps and rental assistance for seniors. Even that was only limited to $1000 because I live in South Carolina! Where Republicans have ruled us right into the dark ages. Would you rather see people just die? How about right in front of your house on the street? Should all the women become hookers and sell their children? I’ve been here for 5 years and only had one job that lasted for 8 months. I’m not lazy, and I’ve taken care of myself. I am thankful that we have a great nonprofit medical practice that enables those of us with no money or insurance to see a doctor on a sliding scale. What would you do if the rug were pulled out from under you with nowhere to turn?

      • Claire

        Karolyn: No one knows unless hard times befall them. One never knows unless they have walked in those shoes. Take care, Karolyn. I will say prayers for you and I sincerely wish you well.

      • http://libertyalert scoobie

        I WOULD HAVE SELF RESPECT AND FIND A job.

        • Claire

          scoobie–I would have self respect and find a job also. But sometimes things happen and a person cannot be in control. Life can be a bitch sometimes whether we want to admit it or not.

  • Charley41

    Oh please Lighterknot..Here we go again on BUSH. Both parties has put us in a tailspin for alot of years. Bush and Cheney along with McCain and all the Libs are one world people. They have purposely done in the econ. to let global control in. We as a country are so gulible. As soon as they get all the guns, the plan will be complete.
    We just let HR5175 in and HR 45 is next. We all need to wake up. CFR, Trilateral comm.and Bilderbergs are the big pushers.

    • http://libertyalert scoobie

      what is hr5175 and hr45?

    • BrotherPatriot

      Exactly…their is a group that has the world hostage.

      There has been a purposeful movement to bring American and the rest of the world to their collective knee’s. This agenda has been their goal for a very long time and it’s just now becoming widespread knowledge. We live in interesting times as world history is developing right in front of our eyes. The tempo has changed…vast global powers are clashing and the Quite War has taken on a new frantic energy and is not so quite any longer much to the chagrin of the Bilderberg groups. THEY are behind schedule and the world itself is waking up to the assault.

      Time to KNOW THEY ENEMY, my brothers and sisters. Tell all your friends, family and contacts about what is happening…it’s true. We have an enemy who is actively trying to take over the world…it’s all about money, power, control and deception. If they were to be exposed in the light of truth and GOD, their lies would be revealed and their house of cards would come crumbling down. The ILLUMINATI is not a myth and they never went away…they just have been working from the shadows and the damage they have wrought is unbelievable.

      Yes, I’m scared of what they have done, can do and are trying to still do…but I tell you what, I’m more ANGRY than scared. Only our ignorance and their duplicity has allowed them to get where they are…and we can do something about that first part. Tell everyone you know about what you are learning of the truth and who is actually running the world. (Once a year they hold a meeting. The people we think of as our “leaders” (who actually are puppets) are called in and given their marching orders to carry out the BILDERBERG’s Agenda (Illuminati, (deep level) Masons, Trilateral Commission, UN, CFR, etc…all are parts of the same Organism with the same goal…)

      Truth is sometimes stranger than fiction.

      People, this is the truth…we have a Organism much like a Virus that has been effecting the body of Humanity for a very long time. Look for earlier posts that give more details on this…not just my posts but others as well. Don’t just believe what I and others are saying…do your own research (links provided in earlier posts from me and others)…don’t rely on Wikipedia or Snopes…these media are controlled and tainted…just like the American main stream media’s blackout on this subject. Daniel Estulin’s historic speech in front of Parliament on June 1st of 2010 is but an example…search these 2 key words if you don’t know what I’m talking about…Parliament Bilderberg.

      Goto at least 3 seperate places to verify information that you come across…much deception is out there. AmericanFreePress.com is a good site for reading the truth and the british Guardian is another. Roll up your sleeves and spend the hours/days that are needed to learn what is actually goin on…be prepared to spend time doing this research. Though this sounds dramatic, it’s true…Your very life and the future of you and your children are what is at stake.

      GOD BLESS

  • Charley41

    And most of the dems are a part of those ONE WORLD ORGANIZATIONS along with some Repubs.
    Dodd and Barney did as mush harm with Fredie and Fannie as Bush did with the war.

  • Lewis Munn

    It is true that there are many prophesies about an end time when people will choose to believe lies, and evil will grow rapidly, as a result.

    We have had many bad times in the past, but overcame evil, at great cost. It is in the History books.

    Now, I wonder, as our History is being systematically wiped out in the education of our people. And many others. More than I recall from history of the past. We know of the fall of Rome, but I do not see such examples taught any more in schools, even. But how to be a homosexual, that is important to be taught to our children!

    As I recall, that was something of importance in Rome, also, as she headed down the slippery slope! And so were increasingly gory sports spectacles.

    Is overt religious persecution next?

    • Vicki

      Overt religious persecution is already here.

      http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=169353

      • slickporsche

        Branch Nevidia?

        • Vicki

          I think you may have meant the Branch Davidian church in Waco Tx.
          http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waco_Siege#.22…I_am_God.21.22
          A pretty detailed description of extreme abuse of government power complete with overt attacks on a religious group and the attempt to seize their, legal under then current unconstitutional law, firearms.

  • Jimmy

    The comical part in most of this is that people will debate which “side” is correct and be so polarized with their position that they fail to LISTEN to anything. They’re so worried about the other side being “wrong” that they don’t look at the problems and find a solution. Like him, hate him, whatever – Obama was correct on one point – things have to CHANGE, Maybe his change wasn’t the right one, but now that we know that, FIND A SOLUTION. Stop being part of the problem and talk, talk, talk, and go DO SOMETHING about it…… The sooner The American people stop being sheep and following the herd, the sooner we’ll work out of this mess……. The 2 party system is broken. It’s corrupt. It’s played out. We have to find a better way.

  • Diana

    It was the plan – check this out: http://www.lvrj.com/opinion/obama-s-agenda–overwhelm-the-system-95716764.html

    You can’t win, now that he’s in

  • Tony Litwinko

    Time to call for a Constitutional amendment to have all counties with less than 10,000 inhabitants worth 3/5ths of a normal voter!

    • American Citizen

      You have no right to compromise anyone’s vote. They always say, “One man, one vote.”

  • Kevin

    To the progressive, socialist, liberals who don’t understand the significance of the map..you’re probably too stupid to be allowed vote. I read people still trying to argue who won more votes.. Bush.. or Gore.. Who the hell cares at this point?? They were both idiots and we should be looking for better people for the office anyway. Not the son’s and daughters of yesterdays politicians. When are the socialist going to stop trying to blame Bush for everything?? lol The map makes a very valid point. In the highly populated walfare area…of course they are going to vote for the socialist pigs that are going to give them the most money… while they remain exempt from having to actually pay any taxes themselves… What a crock!! November is coming.. Let’s send all the progressives… the cancer of our society… to the employment line so they can start drawing their benefits.

  • Bruce

    Do you realise that the last civil war was only to last a few months. But it ended being 4 years long and cost 600,000 lives. If we had civil war now it would last maybe a few years but when it was over there would be no nation left to worry about and there would be millions killed. Is that really what you want. Then you all would really know what hard time were like

    • slickporsche

      WHat do you want? I bet you will need to give the supreme sacrifice to keep it!

  • http://PersonLibertyDigest Dee

    I was upset at the time that Al Gore didn’t get to be president, but I’m sure glad he didn’t or we’d be in a worse mess at that time.
    I read some information about the democratic party and all they could do was blame the Republicans.
    Al Gore wants this cap n trade(tax) and if it passes, we’ll have to go back to using oil lamps to read. Don’t know what we’ll do about heating and cooling. People wouldn’t be able to afford to heat or cool their homes as the price would be too high.

    • American Citizen

      The price of electricity is already going up. Our bill is 20% higher this year than last for the same amount or even less usage.

  • Gary

    Hummmm. I see an incredible debate over who is more at fault for the trouble we are enjoying presently, democrats or republicans. Has anyone, other than me, take a long trip back away from all this to get the BIG PICTURE?

    Republican, democrats, libratarians, communists, water walkers; it does not matter the party. The career politicians are the PERCEIVED problem.

    Do you think America would be facing a national debt exceeding 80 TRILLION dollars if Nixon had not had a Federal Reserve System in place when he got the United States to abandon the Gold Standard?

    Would we see an elected President of the United States shreading the US Constitution in favor of a United Nations resolution to ban all guns world wide, if the United Nations Organization had not been forced upon Americans in 1945?

    Do you think all the nations of the world would have a financial meltdown at exactly the same time if it was not planned? Who planned this and why?

    • BrotherPatriot

      Well, if you don’t know then here is your answer.

      Rothschild/Rockerfeller/Bilderberg/Trilateral Commission/Skull&Bones/Masons/Illuminati, etc., etc., etc…and that’s no lie. Start doing your research and you’ll keep finding those names popping up…all the way down and past the Knights Templar.

      Search Engine Key Words: Parliament Bilderberg…John Todd…Capt. William Morgan…Jim Tucker.

      Conspiracy Theories stop being theories when it’s Conspiracy Facts that are now being revealed. (Daniel Estulin’s historic speech on June 1st of 2010 in front of Parliament…have you heard of it? Most likely not…testimant to their control over our media, etc.)

      It’s scary but I tell ya, I’m more pissed off than scared…and I’m not alone. >,<

      Yol Bolsun

  • Another Voice

    Here’s something for you guys to be afraid of: if President Obama is able to get full reimbursement from BP for all the lost jobs in those red counties along the Gulf Coast, they just might all turn blue in November.

  • Mike B.

    Well. It is incredible to me that we talk of the past like we can fix it! Lets focus on the present situation. Gulf oil spill, the wars in the middle east, hunger, education, shelter for those who need it right here in the USA. The mortgage debacle in the USA along with the TARP monies no one seems to have? The credit companies making their lot and ignoring the deficit their debt holding people are in. Unemployment rate here in my state is 14%, where are the jobs? Unemployment benefits that are being paid out is going to sink the US. Stop the dependency on government and the people will regain their rightful place, a government run by the people and for the people. The Constitution of the United States of America is the law of the land.

  • Grandma Susan

    The issue, fellow Americans, is not about whose fault it is that we find ourselves at a critical crossroads in our history. Democats and Republicans all share responsibility for our country’s bloated budget, fiscal fiascos, government subsidies and shameful foreign aid policies. The underlying problem in all of these are a lack of honesty and personal responsibility, on BOTH ends. This country has long been a beacon for those who want to come here legally, get a job and/or an education, pay their fair taxes, vote, and defend America against her enemies “both foreign and domestic.” But today we have some people who live in this great country who sneer at our laws and our history, who are healthy enough to work but prefer to take checks from the government, who (despite their sworn oath to “uphold and defend the Constitution” when they took office) are using their Congressional offices for personal gain and “pork barrel” money-wasting projects. Worst of all are those in our midst who disdain the Constitution, and are focused on destroying the Republic — won and maintained by generations of our ancestors by faith, sweat, honor and (when necessary) the blood of personal sacrifice. Congress: stop the partisan fighting, stop voting for bigger government, listen to your constituents and vote accordingly. And if you see dishonesty anywhere, root it out! God bless America, please!

    • Kinetic1

      How can I argue with this. We may differ on what we consider “shameful foreign aid” or what programs and departments are good or bad (though I am not saying we do), but we agree that we are all responsible and we must all work this out. I hope that we can find more common ground.

  • Karolyn

    I really take offense when government assistance is blasted. If it were not for Food Stamps, I would have been dead for a while now. I came to a welfare state (SC) 5 years ago to find that the recession had already started here – no jobs. We are essentially all one and SHOULD take care of each others. We are the government, so there’s no reason not to help those less fortunate. I have made it to SS Retirement benefits but still get FS. I went back to school on a Federal Pell Grant. Do you dislike furthering education too? You would be amazed at the caliber of students in our local community college, which is located in an economically depressed part of SC. This state got that way because of the Republicans wanting to keep the status

    • http://libertyalert scoobie

      blame blame blame.

  • Karolyn

    Woops! ……..status quo. Keep the lower class in it’s place and feed the wealthy. Look at the kind of Republican governor we’ve been saddled with! I thank God we have a great Democrat running for gov. this year. Haley is a Palin knockoff; and you know Palin only says what people want to hear her say over, and over, and over, and over, ad infinitum. Sheep following the current trend. Baaaaah. Raise the rabble! Like people like Palin really care! I wonder how much she gives to charity?

    Someone told me a story about the quakers and how they worked very hard to put up food for the winter; and when lazy strangers came around looking for handouts, they were happy to feed their fellow man. That’s the way it should be. Socialism is good if done right.

    • chuck b

      karolyn

      listening to your rhetoric explains why you ended up on food stamps. i’m surprised you went to s.c. you should have tried any of the big cities, there’s comfort in numbers. you say you are in school on a pell grant? do they give those in grammar schools?
      i have listened to this garbage for years and i’ll bet your nothing but a professional welfare recepient. you do fit into the barry soetoro mold
      and by the way if you did read your history and i doubt you did, the founders of this country tried socialism and that ended in a hurry. read about jamestown if you can read.

      • Karolyn

        Why is it that most Conservatives are so angry. I’m sitting here laughing at your rhetoric :-) and I probably have more going for me and am a happier person than you’ll ever be. We are, after all, here to help each other and be joyful in our lives. I wouldn’t be surprised if you were also a conservative Christian, because they are always holier-than-thou and stuck in the mud. I don’t need to defend myself. I know who I am. Do you know who you are? :-)

        • American Citizen

          We’re angry because we see the direction this country is headed and it isn’t good. Enjoy your welfare status and the benefits you get because there will some day come a halt when there just isn’t the money for it. We’re rapidly approaching that scenario. Welfare is fine for those who simply are not able to provide for themselves, and temporary for the able bodied to further their education in order to get a job. We have a daughter who used it for child care while she went to school to further her education. She was able to get a job as a medical assistant and provide for herself and her son until she and the father, who was also still in college, were able to get married.

      • truesoy

        A little correction is due here. They came here and found the first colonies as employees in a business venture for a dutch company. This sounds more like capitalism!.

    • http://libertyalert scoobie

      jerk

    • http://libertyalert scoobie

      I GUESS IT IS EASIER TO RECEIVE THAN TO WORK FOR IT.

  • eddie47d

    Average Joe at 9:54am; Maybe you forgot the “all men are created equal” part. That includes liberals and conservatives. Several have said certain people shouldn’t have the right to vote is that a conservative value? Folks on the right like to jimmy rig the constitution to their liking sometimes too. Slavery was in our Constitution also so once in awhile we smarten up and include every one. You said Bergmans comments were bigoted yet “your side” says far worse things against Mexican Americans legal and illegal. What do you have against the Easter Bunny,Santa Claus and the Tooth Fairy they are just innocent characters.

    • http://libertyalert scoobie

      THEY ARE ALSO NOT REAL, BUT ILLEGALS ARE REAL.

  • Claire

    I just watched a bit of TV–they showed pictures of the dead dolphins, the dead sea turtles, dead fish, and the pelicans covered with oil and literally drowning. I had to turn it off, I could not watch anymore. I hope the government and BP are pleased with themselves. They have created the worst oil disaster ever. They are all monsters. I loathe them for what they have done. I despise them for this tragedy they have caused. I despise them for putting peoples’ lives in jeopardy, the death of marine life,and the birds. Why in the name of God didn’t they do something? Why didn’t they have the proper equipment? Why didn’t they DO something on day one when this tragedy happened? Why is it that some humans have a tendency to destroy everything they touch? I cannot abide by the so-called leaks in other rigs that have been going on for a long time. I cannot accept any excuses for the total lack of respect for humanity and our earth. My hearts aches for the people that have lost their ability to make a living and the hardship they are enduring, for the water in the Gulf, and for the creatures that live in the water.

    • eddie47d

      Thanks for your compassionate concern.

    • JC

      It’s going to take a long time for the coast and the people there to heal. There damned well better be a more responsible policy in place.

      • Claire

        JC–The politicians that are elected won’t do anything. They don’t care. Besides, the oil companies donate to the politicians, and this is exactly why politicians that are in office now and the ones that will be elected in November and in 2012 won’t “step” on the oil companies. Regulation is needed, not government controlled but sufficient regulation to keep these oil companies on the ball. We have to be absolutely positive that oil companies have the proper equipment to STOP a leak. Instead, politicians deregulate and the oil companies take risks to turn a buck. Profit, profit, profit. That is all they think about. Good grief, how much money do these people need to be happy in this world? Hell, when they die they can’t take it with them.
        I sincerely hope that all these fools will suffer for what they have done and they will in one way or another. There is always a day of reckoning and they will get theirs. People like this go through life and don’t give a damn about anything or anyone else but themselves.
        BP and the government should be held responsible. I have no sympathy for either of them. They should get their butts on the beaches and do clean-up too. Then when they get sick, maybe they would think differently, but I doubt it. They are too greedy.

        • American Citizen

          Environmentalists are mostly to blame as they don’t want offshore drilling and force the deep water drilling. Obama’s slow reaction to the spill also is to blame and also not accepting the help of 17 countries who offered their equipment to clean up the spill. Everything that man does is the wrong thing to do. It shows that a community organizer does not understand what an executive does..

          • Claire

            American Citizen–They are ALL to blame. I notice you did not include BP—they are at fault too. Oil companies are equally quilty right along with the government and the EPA. None of them have any ethics/scruples.
            I am not in favor of offshore drilling. We have plenty of resources onshore that we could be using. And the technology we have should and could be put to use regarding the drilling of oil and the environment. This issue depends entirely upon the people involved and whether or not they WANT to use good old common sense and the usage of safety measures. None of them have any common sense and they sure don’t care about anything but money and how to further their own gain.

  • cerebus23

    One our founding fathers gave nods to god in giving us all certain basic human rights life and liberty. Liberty = freedom to make up your own mind and live your own life.

    Certainly they would have known that the catholic church was and still continues to be a corrupt institution that has in its history condoned genocide, claimed to speak for god, condomed slavery. these days covers up sexual abuse within its own ranks to this day, tells people it is a sin to use condoms in place like africa with rampant epidemic of aids and other stds, worked actively to stop a recognition of gays basic human rights not to be presecuted for their lifestyle choices, and has a pope that is as bad as i have ever seen sitting in the papacy today.

    Most “catholics” disagree with the church on many issues. Many fornicate, use birth control, on and on so are they out of touch and dammed by god? or is it the church that is out of touch and dammed by god? I certainly do not see any divine inspiration in the actions of the church, they are just men doing what they need to do to hold on to any power they have.

    The rich provide jobs, now we can argue how much they should be paying their employees, i have had my fair share of horrible bosses that do not pay well, treat people like children and act like they are superior to their employees. but places that are run like that have high turn over. They will never be as good as they can be when you got people shuffling in and out of positions on a revolving door basis.

    But i have had good bosses that pay well, help their employess out and work with them, are genuninely good people that try to do right by the people that work for them.

    The poor create very few jobs. Not that they do not want to work a good many of them would given the chance. Some of them lack skills for good paying jobs, but places like walmart and others provide decent paying jobs to people with low skill sets and offer opportunities for advancement for those that merit it and better pay. And lord knows the labor unions and the left hates walmart and places that do provide jobs at a decent wage with benefits to poor people.

    Redistributing the wealth does little or nothing to create jobs. It is not going to life the poor up and allow them to open businesses. It does nothing to foster hard work or motivate people to better themselves.

    Socialism has a long history of making the poor poorer and the powerful more powerful. From North korea to russia the people huddled in lines or starved while the politicals in power lived like kings. The only way to get a decent living was to join the military since you do not let your military starve and you take decent care of them unless you do not like living like a king at the top. I suppose educators get payed decent to keep them brainwashing the youth to follow the state.

    Even china today with its pseudo capitolistic system today has a great many poor and starving, brutally cracks down on any hint of rebellion, disappears people that speak out against them, spies on foreign nationals and its own people.

    So some of you cheer spreading the wealth, and decry the rich getting rich on the backs of the poor, and the fail of the free market system, and basic rights of health care and a good wage, of government solving all the problems of the nation by taking more and more power, controlling what is on the internet and tv, think the UN is a global force for good and truth.

    You all will be the first in the bread lines if our country does not get on track and soon. Because i am pretty sure your all anti military.

    There is no great equalizier, people are not equal, people have different and unique and vital skills that they can use to better themselves or their community, but is a doctor equal to fast food worker? Or a soldier equal a trash collector? Or a fireman equal to a telemarketer?

    True equality is for lack of a better term bullshit, it will always be bullshit. People are greedy arrogant selfish and short sighted, especially the people that seek power to a great degree. WE seek to be unique by pure human nature and you cannot government that out of people. It simply does not work. Eventually it will crumble and fail.

    This country ran alot better when the common men and women followed their government and voiced themselves even if they had to walk miles or ride a full day to get to see their congressman. Now days we have countless sources of news and information, high speed internet and radio and television and most people are wholly ignorant of politics and what their government is doing and who is in charge.

    Yea many people have their daily lives to worry about, children and making ends meet. But they do not their children or themselves any good when they just tune out the bullshit that politicans spew with wild abandon on both sides of the isle. And vote or voice an opinion on things that they do not even know the broad details of, and there has been a ton of that going on from some posters in this wild train wreck of a discussion, quoting political bullshit as truth, and acting like others are ignorant when we challenge it.

    I guess it is somewhat understandable when your surrounded by bullshit most of your daily life; press, politicians, religious leaders, united nations, just neverending bullshit from all sides. BUt it does not excuse just going along with it because.

  • Gene Hottell

    It is time “NOW” to pass laws to protect the working class “TAXPAYER”.
    If you are not a working class “tax Payer” YOU DO NOT VOTE!!!!

    Are we stooped or what?

    Social Security is our money paid into by us….Why on earth would some one who has not paid in…. have access to it?

    Nothing makes cents with this government now days. The treasury is everyone elses but ours.

    • JC

      Keep in mind Gene that The Treasury is nothing more than a bunch of printing presses running 24 / 7. And they’re owned by people nobody elected. And we owe them money for this arrangement…

  • Raggs

    As the flood of illegals enter this country unchecked, the democrats will force them to vote in thier favor.

    In my belief the system as a whole must be cast out.

    Prehaps Anarchy is the solution.

  • Raggs

    I find it ironic that the use of “anarchy” by an individual or group is considered “treason” to this country. However at the same time one that is elected into office can commit the crime without any bounds.

    The very ones that are in belief they are above the law are the ones that have created this clause to insure that any dissent is met with a prison sentence, while they are in contempt.

    obama is the worst yet that we have seen.
    You idiots that think he is doing the right thing to protect you from predators forgot to look in the mirror.

    Make NO mistake! I truley hate obama!
    I find him as a coward and a slime unworthy of ANY office that “would” uphold the constitution…

    If I am a traitor for that than come and get me!

  • UglyFool

    The obvious answer is a benevolent dictatorship with me as the grand exulted dictator. All those who object will be humanely and permanently terminated. All who agree will be granted generous lifetime pensions, paid for by the confiscated properties of those that disagree. Hmmmmm – are we already there? Except I aint the dictator – oh well – back to sleep……

  • chuck b

    raggs

    if you are traitor for what you believe so am i. i have said this before, we have allowed people to vote in this country that have no business voting, they vote themselves welfare, the democratic party lives on the back of these voters. we are not paying the price, barry soetoro is no doubt the worse president in our history even surpassing carter. everything this guy has implemented since his election is for the benefit of big money and the communist party., the bailout of the banks, the so called stimulus. the healthcare bill. he refuses to clean up the spill, his admin. is throwing roadblocks at anyone trying to make any effort to clean up the oil.
    he and his henchman “holder” are suing to keep the states from protecting our border, “can you believe this” we are being invaded and he has the audacity to refuse the states protection!. he has his troops out making speech’s and ridiculing the border patrol and law enforcement. how much of this do we have to take??

    • JC

      chuck and raggs…neither of you are traitors. Don’t even begin to go there. The terminology we are looking for is in the difference between “loyalists” and “patriots”. Since you aren’t blindly following a government and obeying everything it says is good for you,
      I think we can rule out “loyalists”. You do the math.

  • Karolyn

    The only reason I get even a little involved in these “discussions” is to motivate myself to become an even better person. After seeing all the hate and anger displayed by the right, I’m so much happier with where I am and who I am. I really do puzzle over the fact that those of you on the right ARE angry and hateful, while most liberals are not. What can we make of that?

    • JeffH

      what can we make of that? How about… liberals are blid, anti-American liars, completely out of touch with reality and everthing else but their innerself…be my guest and ride of into the sunset, whistling a happy looney tune…

      • eddie47d

        Your one of the angry ones she’s talking about so go off into the sunset and whistle your grumpy tune. Have a good evening Jeff!

        • American Citizen

          You just said the same thing he did, so what does that make you?

    • Airangel

      Karolyn,,I’d be happy too if I didn’t have to work and got free food, free time to take vacations and spend with family, free lazy days at the beach or lake, free lunches, basically free time…dang that sounds good…enjoy it, I just hope someday I will be rewarded for my 14 hour work days and taxes taken from my check without my approval and given to those I didn’t choose to donate too…I just hope if I ever lose my home and can no longer afford to feed myself, that some of the welfare recipients will have finally stepped up to the plate to “pay it forward” to help those of us that collapsed or had a nervous break down from pure exhaustion and stress!

    • chuck b

      karolyn

      there are institutions where people are placed, most are very happy and unconcerned with the world and their fellowman, they know nothing of politics and voting, they are mostly happy with each other and somewhat like little children. most are registered democrats and were advised to vote for barry soetoro in 2008, they call these places “nut houses” just think you won’t need food stamps.

    • JC

      Oh we’re angry alright. We’re tired of being robbed blind by a bunch of traitors to our Constitution and told we’re supposed to like it.
      I don’t think so Karolyn…not now, not ever will we put up with it.
      The Libaral Socialist Party is going down in flames come November.
      Even the great Socialist, Michael Moore says so.

    • Charley41

      Karolyn
      You sound like a real caring person but you really went over the edge when you said CHRISTIAN HATER.. I am envolved with Housing for the Homeless and Christians are the most giving people in the world. True we don’t like our Constitution destroyed. And we do what we need to preserve it. Socialism in most countries has not worked the best and is just one step away from Communist. So if you don’t want to get informed and learn we are on the brink of becoming a communist country, just keep singing your happy tunes and go back to sleep.
      Read THE MANCHURIAN PRESIDENT iF YOU WANT TO BE INFORMED

    • American Citizen

      Hate and anger? Look in the mirror, your first post was full of it. We’re angry that anyone thinks they have a right to the fruits of someone else’s labor. Forced charity is not charity. We give to many charities of our own free will. That’s true charity. All the government does is legal theft.

    • http://libertyalert scoobie

      JUST REMEMBER WHEN YOU ARE POINTING FINGERS AT ME THERE ARE FINGERS POINTING BACK AT YOU!!!!!!!

  • Gere Stokoe

    THE ELECTION FIX
    How the International Bankers and their owned Media have scammed the voting public for decades.
    WHY BOTH PARTIES KEEP SELLING OUR REPUBLIC OUT TO THE INTERNATIONALIST NWO
    Most Politicians are bought & paid for. Many are members of David Rockefeller’s Council on Foreign Relations (CFR) & Trilateral Commission (TC)
    – Quite a Partnership! Both parties have given us a $13 TRILLION DEBT to the Private Fed Banksters; paying interest for the use of our own money. If Art.1 Sec. 8 of The Constitution were followed; there would be no debt to those parasites.
    Here is how “THE FIX” works: Dems nominate a globalist/socialist & RePubs a globalist/fascist; both associated with Rockefeller’s Council on Foreign Relations (CFR) and Trilateral Commission (TC). (ie. KerryVsBush, BushVsGore, BushVsClinton, FordVsCarter,HillaryVsMcCain) Then enough conned voters, vote for “the lesser of two evils”. All other parties and candidates are ignored, smeared and eliminated with the help of the owned media.
    Obama filled his cabinet with CFR/TC members & “The Fix” continues.

    The Republican Party NEOCON “leadership”, is the Fascist arm of the Banker’s CFR/TC/Bilderberg NWO agenda. With unlimited financing & MSM control, Repub voters choices are limited to CFR members with the same NWO agenda. Obama continues the Banker’s NWO agenda . The Int’l Banksters got what they wanted either way; the further elimination of our liberties and Constitution, and the continued raiding of our treasury.
    Most CONgressmen/Politicians are Parasites serving Master Parasites (Banksters)
    SAY NO TO Rockefeller’s NWO CFR/TC/Bilderberg Group AGENDA:

    Bushes – CFRTC,B (R)
    Clintons – CFR,TC,B (D)
    Mitt Romney – CFR (R) Newt Gingrich – CFR,TC (R)
    John McCain – CFR (R)
    Barack Obama – CFR,TC (D)
    Christopher Dodd – CFR (D)
    Bill Richardson – CFR (D)
    Z. Brzezinski – CFR ,TC, B (D)
    Henry Kissinger – CFR B (R) Paul Volker – CFR,TC,B Greenspan / B Bernanke B
    YouTube search: Freedom to Fascism
    The Banksters have used, Socialism, Communism, Fascism Dictatorships & “Democracies” to enslave the world

    James Warburg, son of Paul Warburg, and a member of FDR’s “brain trust”, testified before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee on February 17, 1950, “We shall have world government whether or not you like it — by conquest or consent”
    ****CFR/TC Background & Quotes**** Research: CFR/TC/Bilderberg Group
    Zbigniew Brzezinski (ZB) formed Trilateral Commission for David Rockefeller in 1973 and Jimmy Carter was made a founding member. Jimmy Carter later became President, he then installed ZB as his National Security Adviser.
    “Marxism is simultaneously a victory of the external, active man over the inner passive man and a victory of reason over belief… and has served to stir the mind and to mobilize human energies purposefully ” ZB –’Between Two Ages’ (p.72) (1970)
    Referring to the rivalry between the USSR and the United States – “The eventual outcome of the competition is however, foreordained, given the inherent superiority of the communist system “ ZB –’Between Two Ages’ (pp.146,147) (1970)
    “The Federal Reserve (privately owned banks) are one of the most corrupt institutions the world has ever know n.” – Senator Louis T. McFadden ( 22 years on the U.S. Banking & Currency Commission) Google: Louis T. McFadden’s exposes in
    The Congressional Record
    CFR members are very tightly affiliated with the U.S. government. Since 1940, every U.S. secretary of state (except for Gov. James Byrnes of South Carolina, the sole exception) has been a member of the Council on Foreign Relations and/or its younger brother, the Trilateral Commission. Also since 1940, every secretary of war and every secretary of defense has been a CFR member. During most of its existence, the Central Intelligence Agency has been headed by CFR members. Virtually every key U.S. national security and foreign policy adviser has been a CFR member for the past seventy years. “An end run around national sovereignty, eroding it piece by piece,
    will accomplish much more than the old fashioned frontal attack”
    – Richard Gardner in CFR publication – Foreign Affairs – April, 1974.
    A great book on CFR/NWO agenda – ‘Descent into Slavery’ by Des Griffin at Amazon

    UNDERSTAND- Both parties have been partners in the Int’l Bankers NWO Agenda: “THE FIX” will be in again if CFR cronies get the nominations again: NWO Fascism or NWO Socialism – no Constitutionalism – no real conservative choices – True liberty is not allowed by the parties NWO controllers. Both parties have been partners in working for the PRIVATE Fed Reserve Bankers. Break the Monopoly! Ron Paul Introduces HR 4248, the Free Competition in Currency Act
    CONGRESS – Audit and FIRE the Private Federal Reserve
    Congress has the power & responsibility to issue US Notes without interest to the Banksters
    *** VOTERS: Get informed – Research – Don’t get conned again ***
    REAL CONSERVATIVES – PLEASE WAKE UP! DEMOCRATS – PLEASE WAKE UP!

    • JC

      Dead On !!

    • Charley41

      GERE STOKOE
      Karolyn could learn from that if she could stay awake long enough…

    • BrotherPatriot

      Exactly. Bingo!!!

  • http://BskTweety@aol.com Barbara Kelly

    I thing that I noticed was so much red. for McCain. To me makes me wonder just how did Obama won with so little blue. Was the votes rigged.

    • chuck b

      barbara kelly

      the red areas indicate where most of the industrious people live work and pay taxes. the blue is the democratic areas where the govt. workers, union workers, minorities, welfare and illegals abide.

    • Airangel

      I dunno…can you say “Black Panthers”? Thugs? ACORN?….hmmmm good question…what the vote rigged? Sadly we’ll never know, hopefully we can get this current Prez’s records unsealed and prove him unqualified for an American President and oust him since the constitutions only allows a “natural born” citizen to serve as President…why 3 law firms and a million dollars to “seal” records???If you’re honest, trustworthy, ethical, legal…all the great adjectives to describe a great guy, great human being, great President…if you are all of the above, then there’s nothing to hide – right?….I was raised to be forthcoming and truthful, and I’m just your average working citizen so surely the PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA should be required to truthful, righteous, conscienable, HONEST, LEGAL, compassionate towards AMERICANS, fighting for AMERICANS! PROTECTING AMERICANS…basic stuff right?

  • Tom

    All that I can say is that November is coming (not too soon), the liberal dems have had their fun. There is a tidal wave about to wash over this country and this great United States of ours will be set right again.

    How’s that “Hope & Change” been treating you?

    This has been a terrible, terrible 18-months.

    • Charley41

      I’m concerned about the damage thats being done before Nov. Executive order for Anesty,anti-guns bills, all these bills going thru now!!

  • Tommy B

    So, who gives a shit which type of person voted for Obama.??
    They were qualified USA voters. that’s all that matters.

    • chuck b

      tommy b

      does acorn endorsement make them qualified, better check out the voter fraud throughtout the country. of course as long as they vote democrat an can identify mickey mouse it qualifies their vote. you probably don’t give s%^t, i do.

    • http://libertyalert scoobie

      WERE THEY?

  • Patty

    I beleive we as AMERICANS NEED TO BE HEARD AND NEED TO REACT and stop the incredible amounts of $$$$ being spent on IDIOTS IN POWER.
    We won our freedom once before I think it’s time to do a REDO and take OUR COUNTRY BACK.
    I read a letter that stated a long time ago when a foreigner came to AMERICA he flew under the AMERICAN FLAG . Right now we have soooo many flags flying over AMERICA we can’t even see the spacious skies we once had. I’m not pregidist but you all come here take whatever you can. Then turn around and complain constantly.Go back where you came from and give it a little more thought.All AMERICANS have to pay all taxes,but noit if you’re from another country and live you’re live on oOUR LAND ,UNDER OUR FLAG and never appreciate a thing you have . You just want more. Meanwhile the AMERICAN IS OUT ON THE STREET.
    IS THERE ANYTHING WRONG WITH THIS PICTURE? YOU TELL ME.

    It’s time we take OUR COUNTRY BACK AND PUT A CAP ON HOW MANY FOREIGNERS ARE ALLOWED TO ENTER AND LIVE HERE.
    AND THE ONES WHO ARE ALREADY HERE PAY YOU’RE TAXES LIKE THE REST OF AMERICA.

    THESE THINGS HAVE GOT TO CHANGE AND SOON OR WE LOSE OUR BELOVED
    UNITED STATES OF
    AMERICA

    UNITED WE STAND DEVIDED WE FALL.

    THINK REAL HARD ABOUT THESE WORDS.

    Now congress and all other branches work for us not us slave away so pelosi can spend 20 million going to work 3 days a week. Or Obama not protecting our borders from foreigners.

    The ball is in our hands PEOPLE LETS WIN THIS GAME.

    A TOTAL AMERICAN UNTIL THE DAY I DIE OR HAVE TO MOVE TO ANOTHER COUNTRY BECAUSE AMERICA THE BEAUTIFUL DOES NOT EXIST ANYMORE.

    WE ALL NEED TO BE ON THE SAME PAGE FOR A CHANGE.

    A WALK TO WASHINGTON I BELEIVE IS IN ORDER JULY 4TH WOULD HAVE BEEN THE IDEAL TIME FOR THIS TO HAPPEN. WE STILL DO HAVE TIME TO GET IT TOGETHER PEOPLE.

    A FRONT PAGE ON ALL NEWSPAPERS IN AMERICA COULD GET US AL;L THER EASLIY.

    GOD BLESS AMERICA

    PJL TRUE AMERICAN

    • BrotherPatriot

      Your attitude and budding knowledge is correct. People have been feeling this coming for a long time and the species of Humanity is beginning to react. Your voice is heard and being repeated by the 100′s, thousands and the roar is building…can you hear it?

      CAN YOU HEAR IT…!!!

      The awakening of the common man to Exactly what is goin on at the ROOT level has begun.

      Taking it back to the basics is what we have to do. Freeze all major political decisions with no further Admendments, Bills or anything being passed AT THIS TIME. Quite all the noise of everything and reaxamin all the Amendments and Bills using a Common Sense Law (or something to that digree or another). Basically this idea is where you take the vast majority of sane, rational, good people and give them a question or ruling to judge upon. What their answer would be to the greatest majority (like 77.5%) and apply that type of mentality to each Amendment, Bill or Law and future legal matter…like it’s some saftey net.

      I dunno here, guyz. I’m just brainstorming with you. America at one time did stand for something special. Freedom. Why we let them take that away from us is a Crime. Us not doing something about it is another. Time to wake up, Guyz. Really.

  • S Rubicon

    If corporate America is so influential w/ Republicans, if Republicans are so beholden to corporations, then why were the majority of campaign contributions by corporations made to Democrats? Also, BOTH Parties failed us on a number of issues. Super majorities in Congress are rare. Republicans won control of the House in 96′. BUT, they did not have a ‘super majority’ so they could pass anything they wanted. they had to get a number of Democrats to vote with them, which means, they had to compromise. With their super majority in the House AND Senate, the only reason ObamaCare passed, was political payoffs & threats, by Democratic leadership, to, Democrats in their own houses. They had to cajole votes from their own members to get enough votes. So, opposition was not just Republicans, it was also a number of Democrats who only voted for it, reluctantly & with payoffs or threats by the party.

  • Tak Loufer

    I did my own analysis of those red and blue counties with a different criterion-would you believe-3/4 of the poorest counties in america voted for mccain-these counties not only dont pay taxes, they don’t pay attention. They voted for the same people that are telling them that they dont need assistance-they need jobs. Places like cumberland county , ky and Apache county, az where there are no jobs and no hope of any jobs appearing. Dillon mt and Turkey Ridge, MO. Agricultural centers where the industrial farms have put the small farmer out of work. Cameron texas is a nice town or it was when cotton was king. Now most of the downtown windows are boarded up. All the kids moved to the cities, Austin or Dallas or Houston where they can work and live and raise families. All that is left in these places is dust and dustie old republicans. The world is changing but there is a segment in society, and there always has been, that is too entrenched in the way things were. their wilth, power and position are tied to what was and that is the inertia that has to be overcome by every new generation. Change and growth are necessary and society has to evolve. There are too many of us to go back to the days of individual responsability. We have to become our brothers keeper and care for those who will or cannot care for themselves. Those people breed and if we want their children to lie down in the mud with them then go ahead. Listen to this old grandfather tell you how it should be. Go back to the farm and Chip Wood.

  • L B

    I PERSONALLY HAD REVIEWED THIS MAP AFTER THEY DECLARED OBAMA PRESIDENT. IT WAS FELT THEN THAT THE ELECTION HAD BEEN BOUGHT WITH FRAUDULENT VOTES PROVIDED BY ACORN. AND TODAY I AM STILL FIGHTING FOR IMPEACHMENT OF OBAMA. IF WE CAN IMPEACH HIM NOW ALONG WITH THE CZARS, NANCY, REID AND MOST OF CONGRESS EVERYTHING HE HAS SIGNED INTO LAW WILL BE NULIFIED. IF WE LET HIM STAY IN OFFICE FOR ONE FULL YEAR WE WILL HAVE LOST OUR FREEDOM. IT WOULD BE MUCH EASIER TO IMPEACH HIM NOW AND GET RID OF THE ILLEGAL ALIEN THAT HE IS. HE IS NOT QUALIFIED FOR THE POSITION HE CURRENTLY HOLDS.

    • Smilee

      Dream on silly one,as your statements are total fantasy and filled with pure hate and no facts!!

      • Charley41

        Oh please. How can you throw in the Hate thing when some one expresses a opinion.???

        • Smilee

          Charley

          If your speaking to me, I guess you want me to respect his opinion while you refuse to respect mine, I still think he is filled with and motivated by hate, that’s my honest opinion, the fact you do not approve means nothing to me because of your bias

          • American Citizen

            Yes, Smilee, we don’t hate him, we hate what he and the Democrats are doing to this country.

          • Claire

            I hate what all politicians have done to this country.

  • Bob

    Perhaps JFK said it best when he defined the word “liberal”; a speech worth re-reading for people of both parties and for Independents as well.
    A Liberal Definition by John F. Kennedy:
    Acceptance Speech of the New York
    Liberal Party Nomination
    September 14, 1960
    What do our opponents mean when they apply to us the label “Liberal?” If by “Liberal” they mean, as they want people to believe, someone who is soft in his policies abroad, who is against local government, and who is unconcerned with the taxpayer’s dollar, then the record of this party and its members demonstrate that we are not that kind of “Liberal.” But if by a “Liberal” they mean someone who looks ahead and not behind, someone who welcomes new ideas without rigid reactions, someone who cares about the welfare of the people — their health, their housing, their schools, their jobs, their civil rights, and their civil liberties — someone who believes we can break through the stalemate and suspicions that grip us in our policies abroad, if that is what they mean by a “Liberal,” then I’m proud to say I’m a “Liberal.”
    But first, I would like to say what I understand the word “Liberal” to mean and explain in the process why I consider myself to be a “Liberal,” and what it means in the presidential election of 1960.
    In short, having set forth my view — I hope for all time — two nights ago in Houston, on the proper relationship between church and state, I want to take the opportunity to set forth my views on the proper relationship between the state and the citizen. This is my political credo:
    I believe in human dignity as the source of national purpose, in human liberty as the source of national action, in the human heart as the source of national compassion, and in the human mind as the source of our invention and our ideas. It is, I believe, the faith in our fellow citizens as individuals and as people that lies at the heart of the liberal faith. For liberalism is not so much a party creed or set of fixed platform promises as it is an attitude of mind and heart, a faith in man’s ability through the experiences of his reason and judgment to increase for himself and his fellow men the amount of justice and freedom and brotherhood which all human life deserves.
    I believe also in the United States of America, in the promise that it contains and has contained throughout our history of producing a society so abundant and creative and so free and responsible that it cannot only fulfill the aspirations of its citizens, but serve equally well as a beacon for all mankind. I do not believe in a superstate. I see no magic in tax dollars which are sent to Washington and then returned. I abhor the waste and incompetence of large-scale federal bureaucracies in this administration as well as in others. I do not favor state compulsion when voluntary individual effort can do the job and do it well. But I believe in a government which acts, which exercises its full powers and full responsibilities. Government is an art and a precious obligation; and when it has a job to do, I believe it should do it. And this requires not only great ends but that we propose concrete means of achieving them.
    Our responsibility is not discharged by announcement of virtuous ends. Our responsibility is to achieve these objectives with social invention, with political skill, and executive vigor. I believe for these reasons that liberalism is our best and only hope in the world today. For the liberal society is a free society, and it is at the same time and for that reason a strong society. Its strength is drawn from the will of free people committed to great ends and peacefully striving to meet them. Only liberalism, in short, can repair our national power, restore our national purpose, and liberate our national energies. And the only basic issue in the 1960 campaign is whether our government will fall in a conservative rut and die there, or whether we will move ahead in the liberal spirit of daring, of breaking new ground, of doing in our generation what Woodrow Wilson and Franklin Roosevelt and Harry Truman and Adlai Stevenson did in their time of influence and responsibility.
    Our liberalism has its roots in our diverse origins. Most of us are descended from that segment of the American population which was once called an immigrant minority. Today, along with our children and grandchildren, we do not feel minor. We feel proud of our origins and we are not second to any group in our sense of national purpose. For many years New York represented the new frontier to all those who came from the ends of the earth to find new opportunity and new freedom, generations of men and women who fled from the despotism of the czars, the horrors of the Nazis, the tyranny of hunger, who came here to the new frontier in the State of New York. These men and women, a living cross section of American history, indeed, a cross section of the entire world’s history of pain and hope, made of this city not only a new world of opportunity, but a new world of the spirit as well.
    Tonight we salute Governor and Senator Herbert Lehman as a symbol of that spirit, and as a reminder that the fight for full constitutional rights for all Americans is a fight that must be carried on in 1961.
    Many of these same immigrant families produced the pioneers and builders of the American labor movement. They are the men who sweated in our shops, who struggled to create a union, and who were driven by longing for education for their children and for the children’s development. They went to night schools; they built their own future, their union’s future, and their country’s future, brick by brick, block by block, neighborhood by neighborhood, and now in their children’s time, suburb by suburb.
    Tonight we salute George Meany as a symbol of that struggle and as a reminder that the fight to eliminate poverty and human exploitation is a fight that goes on in our day. But in 1960 the cause of liberalism cannot content itself with carrying on the fight for human justice and economic liberalism here at home. For here and around the world the fear of war hangs over us every morning and every night. It lies, expressed or silent, in the minds of every American. We cannot banish it by repeating that we are economically first or that we are militarily first, for saying so doesn’t make it so. More will be needed than goodwill missions or talking back to Soviet politicians or increasing the tempo of the arms race. More will be needed than good intentions, for we know where that paving leads.
    In Winston Churchill’s words, “We cannot escape our dangers by recoiling from them. We dare not pretend such dangers do not exist.”
    And tonight we salute Adlai Stevenson as an eloquent spokesman for the effort to achieve an intelligent foreign policy. Our opponents would like the people to believe that in a time of danger it would be hazardous to change the administration that has brought us to this time of danger. I think it would be hazardous not to change. I think it would be hazardous to continue four more years of stagnation and indifference here at home and abroad, of starving the underpinnings of our national power, including not only our defense but our image abroad as a friend.
    This is an important election — in many ways as important as any this century — and I think that the Democratic Party and the Liberal Party here in New York, and those who believe in progress all over the United States, should be associated with us in this great effort. The reason that Woodrow Wilson and Franklin Roosevelt and Harry Truman and Adlai Stevenson had influence abroad, and the United States in their time had it, was because they moved this country here at home, because they stood for something here in the United States, for expanding the benefits of our society to our own people, and the people around the world looked to us as a symbol of hope.
    I think it is our task to re-create the same atmosphere in our own time. Our national elections have often proved to be the turning point in the course of our country. I am proposing that 1960 be another turning point in the history of the great Republic.
    Some pundits are saying it’s 1928 all over again. I say it’s 1932 all over again. I say this is the great opportunity that we will have in our time to move our people and this country and the people of the free world beyond the new frontiers of the 1960s.

    • chuck b

      bob
      jfk was a do nothing president, he did very little, his image built up by the press was something to behold, however, he was more honorable than any of the kennedys and he was a patriotic american, more than you can say for his dem. successors from clinton on. especially this one in office now. the media covered for him over the bay of pigs fiasco when he backed down and accepted kruschev terms not to invade cuba. the russians were not about to start a nuclear war with us. “wilson, roosevelt and truman” i think not, they are the fore runners of a socialist america.

      • BrotherPatriot

        I say to myself, “This guy has GOT to be kidding?” But I know your not. *shakes head*

        What JFK did was stand up and attempt to bring honesty back to the American people. The simple fact that he went against the grain and spoke from his heart instead of from THEIR agenda is testimony of how great JFK was. You have to keep in mind the stage/environment that he was in. Completely surrounded by people who were saying one thing to the people of the world but behind closed doors they were plotting something else. In essense…laughing at us as they slowly shredded the Bill or Rights and the Constitution. If you didn’t read his speech above thoroughly where you put your comment then I suggest you reread it again taking in account that this was a man speaking truth, right from his heart. You can feel it in his words. It’s positively evident to me that he was a great humanitarian in his attempt to bring this country back to the people…instead of in the steadily tighting fist that the Government has around our throats then and even more so now. He was killed for being a GOOD man. Still human (made personal mistakes)…but good in his heart when it came to the people of this great country. I honestly feel he died bringing us knowledge of the hidden society that is not only running America but the world in general. Sooo…just by doing these things, JFK’s bravery and willingness to attempt to bring us change (abolishing the Federal Reserve, for example and speaking openly about the network of thieves that infest our Government and this world) is enough for me to consider him one of the best Presidents that we ever had. He was much, MUCH more than a do-nothing president, Sir. >.<

  • chuck b

    tak loufer

    i wonder how the pioneers made it, they had no electricity, no cars, nothing in the way of convenience only a will to work. they did not have a government handout or gov. job. and i might add, most of these people were skilled, yes they cared for those that they could help, but those people generally pulled their self up and
    went on their way. now, since the roosevelt days we have bred a society that depends on the govt. handout and these same liberal politicians have allowed the emmigrants to flow into this country unchecked. we have reached a capacity where its not possible to employ this many unskilled workers and we have a president that is not willing to stop the flow of illegals. in a sense we have been invaded. barry soetoro your messiah has promised you change and now you are getting it see how you like to evolve around this pole.

    • eddie47d

      Your always the pompous ass for Obama had nothing to do with the immigration problem. As a matter of fact there are fewer coming across in the last 2 years and Obama has put more border agents on duty than previous administrations.Go back and blame Reagan,Clinton and Bush or is that to difficult for you.

  • DaveH
    • Charley41

      Yes and now we must fight the unread DISCLOSE ACT. I don’t know how many fires we can put out before Nov.

    • Smilee

      How reliable!! Coming from Fox news with a tip from a former Bush supporter, odds are it is BS

      • American Citizen

        If you’re talking about Obama and the Dems giving amnesty to the illegals, it would be an impeachable offense. We get our news from other sources other than Fox News. Will the mainstream media tell you this?

      • DaveH

        I judge people by their actions. And Obama’s actions have made it very clear that he would stoop that low if he thought he could get away with it.

        • Claire

          DaveH–I agree, but don’t you think all politicians would stoop to whatever level to get what they want?

          • DaveH

            No.
            I don’t believe Libertarians would.

  • Charley41

    Bob
    Yes JFK was a pretty darn good Pres. But we are heading down the communist path now and have been for some time. If you can’t see that then you are not paying attention or intentionally looking the other way.

    • American Citizen

      History says JFK was not that great a president. The only good thing we have from him is the quote, “Ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country.” He’s the only Democrat I ever voted for for president and I came to be sorry I did. I was a Democrat because my parents were and that was the first time I was able to vote. After years of watching how the Democrat party changed, I switched to Republican, became disenchanted with them, too, and vote as Independent now. I wish everybody did and stopped being so partisan they can’t see the forest for the trees.

  • mehoward

    The way to stop this Obama madness is to raise the voting age back to 21 years, drinking age to 21 years. If you let children drink and vote at age 18 you have ruined their lives without lifting a finger. We all know that children at that age have not matured enough to know anything about life. Most of them are still living at home or the parents are sending them to college,they are still wet behind the ears.
    And please don’t say that if they are old enough to go into the service
    they are old enough to vote. During the world war 2 they were drafted at 18 years and they were unable to vote and drink until they were 21.
    A person is a lot more mature at 21 than at 18. At 18 they are more vulnerable, so they fall prey to vultures out to bamboozle them. We need to clean house in our colleges, in our high schools and get the communist,socialist and radical professors out of our education system
    and put in professors who are there to teach and have no hidden agenda.
    OBAMA WE ALL KNOW THAT YOU ARE TRYING YOUR BEST TO CORRUPT AND BANKRUPT AMERICA. WHY ELSE WOULD YOU REFUSE HELP TO CLEAN UP THE OIL SPILL IN THE GULF, WHY ELSE WOULD YOU INSIST ON A MORATORIUM ON DRILLING IN THE GULF WHEN YOU KNOW THAT IT WILL KILL THE ECONOMY IN THAT AREA, YOU KNOW WHAT HAPPENED TO CAUSE THAT OIL SPILL YOUR SO CALL INSPECTORS DID NOT INSPECT THE SAFETY OF THE DRILLING RIG, THEY WERE TOO BUSY ENJOYING THE PERKS THAT THE OIL COMPANY WAS GIVING THEM!!!!
    WHY ARE YOU NOT ENFORCING THE LAW ON THE BORDER? WHY ARE YOU THINKING ABOUT GIVING AMNESTY TO THE ILLEGAL ALIENS THAT ARE CROSSING THE BORDER
    DISOBEYING OUR IMMIGRATION LAWS. COULD IT BE THAT GIVING THEM LEGAL
    STATUS WILL GIVE YOU THEIR VOTES. EVERYTIME I THINK OF THE ILLEGALS MARCHING WITH THEIR MEXICAN FLAGS AND THEIR SIGNS SAYING THEY WANT THERE RIGHTS I COULD SPIT. MR. OBAMA YOU HAVE VIOLATED YOUR SOLEMN
    OATH TO PRESERVE, PROTECT AND DEFEND THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA!!!! MEHPENSACOLA.FL

    • DaveH

      MeHoward,
      I agree with you that 18 is too young to vote. Perhaps even 21 is too young to make an informed vote.
      But it’s hard to turn a blind eye to the fact that 18 is certainly too young to go off and fight somebody else’s war. Such is Big Government. It is all about the people in power. The rest of us can eat cake.

  • The Gov

    Who and why would spend 2 million dollars to NOT show their birth certificate? Please do not refer to me as a “birther” just answer the question. Pleaseeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!!!!!!! Somebodyyyyyyyyyyy

    • Charley41

      I personally don’t think he has one(BC) but putting out fires in other matters might be more concerned with at this point.

    • Smilee

      TheGov

      He was the defendant in these suits and that requires him to defend himself, that is the American way, he would not have to spend this if people did not file these frivolous lawsuits as it forces him to spend this money. Remember, one judge fined the plaintiff’s lawyer $20,000.00 because he found her case frivolous all the rest have been dismissed as frivolous or without standing which supports these conclusion

  • Charley41

    His hands would be tied if not for his sen. and House majority. Got to change that first…..But now hes looking at Executive Order for Amnesty. How do we deal with that?

    • American Citizen

      According to the Constitution, it would be an impeachable offense.

  • mehoward

    EXPOSE EVERY DIRTY DEAL THAT HE AND HIS CONGRESS HAS MADE, TELL EVERYONE YOU KNOW ABOUT THESE DEALS AND ENCOURAGE THEM TO GO OUT AND VOTE. I THINK THIS AMNESTY DEAL IF HE DOES IT, WILL CAUSE A ROAR THAT WILL BE HEARD AROUND THE WORLD. MR OBAMA DOESN’T UNDERSTAND THAT HIS DAYS ARE NUMBERED IN THE WHITE HOUSE, HE WILL LOSE HIS MAJORITY IN BOTH HOUSES AND HE WILL BE FORCED INTO A LAME(AND I MEAN LAME) DUCK SESSION
    WITH ONLY 2 YEARS IN THE WHITE HOUSE. IF THE MAJORITY IS BIG ENOUGH
    EXPECT THE IMPEACHMENT PROCESS TO BEGIN. MEHPENSACOLA,FL.

  • JohnM

    Chip Wood is right. obama is an incompetent pathological liar. Just this week he’s done more damage to the environment, military, free elections and speech and the banking system than anyone in history. Everyone who know what’s really going on agrees with me about that. Dont waste more time typing here, contribute money to your favorite conservative republican now and call someone now to vote against these dangerous politicians that go along with obama. If you give just 10% of your income to a anti-obama candidate, that still only 1/5 of what you are forced by law to give to obama. And for what? More jobs, no. Better health care, no. Better police, teachers, and national defenses, no, no, no. You get almost nothing for the money you’re forced to give to the federal government. Do you work? Due to raising unemployment thanks to obamas job killing policies, most people I know work 60-80 hours a week. For what? Hours are wasted on unnecessary government forms that are only getting more useless. And your only getting paid for ½ of that time, your paying the other ½ to the government. So put just 10% of your work time, that’s 6-8 hours a week, to good use working to defeat obama. Put you money and time to good use. This year we contain him, and in two years we take him out.

    • Michael

      As an independent I find all this Obama bashing from Republicans on this website hillarious. If you are really concerned about personal liberty you can’t possibly justify voting for a conservative government. Right wing christians control the party and have done everything in their power to curtain personal freedom. I’ll tell you one thing there’s far more liberty in Amsterdam than there ever will be in America under the rule of ultra right wing christian nut

  • awcole

    What a bunch of fools- Republican/Democrat does not matter, don’t you get it? Both sides put forward the lies they’ve been spoon-fed without question or thought…it’s time to realize that republicans and democrats are both wings of the same bird. And you all participate gladly in all the hate, divisiveness and drama that the machine spews out.
    It’s time to realize we are all Americans (well, except 14 million of “us”) and we had better figure out what that means- that we hav common interests and goals that we should agree on and force our “representatives” to act on, instead of being fools fighting in a burning house. Wake up now. Or wake up later wondering what happened to our freedom and our wealth. Wake up in chains.

  • http://aol.com puddlejumpr57

    Call all those incumbents and let them know one thing. Your tired of all their bulls@#t!!! But tell them one thing your out and not just Repubs. Dems. alike all of them gone. All 435 congress men and women and 100 Senators owe this country. They have stole from us all without any remorse. Don’t just wait till November do it now tell folks things need to change because that HOPE AND CHANGE ain’t got us nothing but despair. To Arms People Without Firing a Shot!!!!!!

    • Marilyn

      I have written Conress members and Senators from my area. I have written to President Obama. The replies I get is the wonderful work they are doing and they are restoring economic health to the States/United States that they represent. So letters and faxes to these people we have elected to protect our rights and freedoms means diddly squat. They do not listen to the American Citizens. You can write all day and you will get the same replies…wonderful job they are doing and such. The only other recourse Americans have is the mighty VOTE. I know it does not seem our votes count for anything but they certainly do…for now, anyway. It appears that the 1st Amendment has been stomped on and going to Senate for final vote. Consequently, the 2nd Amendment will come under Milking the Cow Clinton’s (HOLDER IS IN THERE SOMEWHERE!) fire in a few days. Now, Illegals may be given amnesty by “Executive Order.” What’s next? Obama has an agenda and he is indeed giving Americans “CHANGE.” I don’t care if Obama’s skin is purple. He is not an American Leader.

      The Gulf Oil Disaster should be the focal point right now. There is more to the disaster than we are hearing. The sea floor mantel (sp?) is cracked and oil and harmful gasses are rolling out faster than we can count. Russians are trying to help but are being ignored. Why? It appears that the off shore drilling will not be available for at least 30 years if the Russian method of stopping the disaster is used. It gets very “POLITICAL.”

      So, as we tap away on these computers, our American world continues to be turned up-side-down. Red or blue- True or Misleading, I think we are heading for Total disaster so hold onto your hats and keep Voting.

  • Mark

    One of the principle problems with the Republicans vs. Democrats is the core values that govern each political party…the Democrats have been leaning (tilting/swaying/swinging) way left over time, and are a far shout from their early beginnings. The modern Republicans, also, have abandoned their early roots are currently nearly unrecognizable from whence they first came. As Chip aptly stated, the party in power desires to stay in power, and will do whatever necessary to achieve that end, even to the detriment of the party values. A sweep of Republicans in November will certainly oust the current congress, and would also certainly have ramifications for the White House in 2013, but likely will not solve the entrenched problems faced by our fading republic. Replacing an entitlement mentality party with another party that believes, via their actions, in lesser and limited entitlements, does not set straight the veering course of disaster on which we find ourselves. Much of the “soapbox” talk today is centered around Constitutional issues, and it appears the relatively uninformed and uneducated populace likes what it hears regarding moving the country back to constitutional principles. However, having ears tickled by well meaning sound bites does not a revolution make, and in all likely manner the populace will muster enough rebellious action to vote out one entrenched party and replace it with another that is merely shades different of the same colored cloth. The overall net accomplishment of such actions will be more time in which to gradually turn up the proverbial heat of boiling water to cook the unsuspecting frogs before they have an opportunity to jump out of harm’s way. A new administration, and even a new congress, comprised of milk-toast core-values offered by the Republican party will only slow down and delay our eventual train wreck upon the ash-heap of history. It is the people, the masses, who want and demand the entitlements that the congress is most willing to dole out who share the greater burden of shame and responsibility for elevating government to the level of God. We will get what we ask for…and if not us, then we insure our children and grandchildren will receive what we have set in motion.

  • Matt

    The issue that Mr. Wood has not addressed is that the Electoral College has failed once again. The presidential electors are not obligated to vote the same way that the citizens vote. This is how Obama lost the popular vote, but somehow won the Electoral College, and declared president. According to this map, McCain should be our current president, not Obama. The College needs to go, NOW.

    • Smilee

      Matt

      Your math is not very good is it, as Obama won both the popular vote and the electoral vote and it reflected the popular vote in the electoral vote in this case, by the way he got over 53% of the popular vote. So what is your real beef???????

      • Marilyn

        I think what ticks off some people is the fact of where the votes came from and did ACORN play a big part in getting a certain sector(?) to get out and vote and did ACORN falsify some votes. We will never know the truth about that. They have been forgiven and more money going to ACORN. The idea is to stop the amnesty for illegals in this country. I do not think the president has that kind of executive power to do such a thing but stranger things have been happening. I, too, am skeptical of both Democrats and Republicans. I only voted Republican to take the lesser of the two evils. And, it should not be that way. Going Independent only creates a mass of candidates and it’s difficult to determine if they know how to pour p___ out of a boot. The candidate whom I would have voted for AND believed he could do a great job had to drop out early due to lack of MONEY. I don’t have the answers. I do know that I will research each candidate to view their track record and VOTE for the most likely to represent the United States and the American Citizens beginning this November and many Novembers hereafter.

        • Smilee

          Marilyn

          Your Statement; ACORN falsify some votes.

          ________________________________________________________________________

          For your information: ACORN does not vote period so how could they falsify any votes??????????????

    • DaveH

      Perhaps you should read this article, Matt:
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faithless_elector

  • Wayne Thurston

    I agree the College needs to go NOW.
    What good does it do to vote if your vote dosen’t count.

    • DaveH

      Well, if you want to be whip-sawed regularly by a narrow-majority then we could have a popular vote which would often change whose in power, each with a new set of rules. Good luck planning your life.

      Also, it could very well result in splitting up the Union, as the low-population states would be constantly overrun by the high-population states. How many states would want to play in that game?

  • Earl, QUEENS, NY

    Looking at this map, it would be great if we could replace the current 430+ electoral college with a one-vote-per-county electoral system. That would keep the leftwing democraps out of The White House!!

    Yes, let’s think about the first and second boxes. Polls show that a huge majority of Americans are moderate to conservative. Liberals are less than 25% of the population. Sadly, it’s the latter that’s currently in power!! Elections matter!! Many of us are frustrated by RINOs and wimps within the GOP who cower to the democraps. Further, I’ve also recently read on CNSnews that even Obama and Pelosi aren’t liberal enough for some drones, losers and die-hard leftists!! However, we must remember that that these drones and morons will still vote for Obama, Pelosi and their leftwing ilk. They’ll never vote for a conservative/republican merely because a democrap is not liberal enough. SO….why do so many on our side vote for leftwing democraps, or not vote at all, merely because a Republican is not as conservative as we’d like? I’m sure we’d be far better off now even if McCain had won in 2008. ELECTIONS HAVE CONSEQUENCES!!!! Americans need to vote more wisely than they did in 2006 and 2008!!

    Finally, as for the 3rd box, or the ammo box, we hate to think of this ugly possible alternative. It certainly frightens the leftwing statist democraps currently in power. But it was used in the late 1700s, and I’m sure if our founders were here today, they wouldn’t rule out the possibility of using it again – considering what this current leftwing regime is doing to our once great nation…..Of course, the ammo box should be a last resort. Hopefully we can save America with the 1st and/or 2nd box(es).

    • Smilee

      Earl

      If you have a two million people in one county and 10,000 in another and they each get one vote, Totally unfair and TOTALLY ridicules and completely unconstitutional and unrepresentive of the people, you far right wing radicals get more radical every day, I guess you are OK with stealing elections, that’s funny because ACCORN’s acts, if true, pale when compared to what you advocate here.

      • American Citizen

        So, Smilee, what you are saying that those of us who live in some counties shouldn’t even vote as you don’t want our vote to count. The Electoral College levels the playing field.

        • Smilee

          AC

          NOPE, That is not what I said maybe you should reread my post again and maybe you will understand it.

      • DaveH

        Perhaps on a county level, what you say makes sense. But on a state level it doesn’t, as when the Union formed the States signed on to play the Union game only because the game rules (the Constitution) were favorable to them. You can’t change the game rules without giving the participants the right to not play the game.

  • Panda Girl

    Yeah, more teabagger magic math. Y’all are really grasping at straws now.

  • http://personalliberty.com/chip-wood Country JB

    If you really want to know the problems we are in today,one only has to look at the comment made at the upper part of this list. It was made by “Ricky 6/25/2010 @ 1:16pm”,.This adminastration was elected by the same idiots that cannot even spell nor use the “spell check” on their computers. They can only read well enough to see “FREE”, then put it into the ballot counter. Nothing is “Free”. Just ask anyone from our founding fathers to every American that gave their supreme sacrifice for our cherished Liberty.The only thing that is free is our salvation in JESUS CHRIST,through GOD the FATHER,by the power of THE HOLY SPIRIT….that is until this administration can figure out a way to steal from it to give to these same kind of Idiots like Ricky…..Ain’t gonna happen HE,GOD is still in control!!

  • http://personalliberty.com/chip-wood Country JB

    For those of you whom think I cannot spell either, the word “adminastration” was intentional. It matches the “Nasty” people in office that are trying to destroy our country!!!!!

  • Mommykconservative

    Folks, what many of you seem to miss in comparing the two maps defined by Chip and then by Ezra Klein is that while an entire state may be considered red, the counties voted differently. Follow the money, who gets it, and where that is. Redistricting is good business by progressives on BOTH SIDES. And the Ad geniouses in the Obama Campaign found the winning combination because they found a way to mobilize the vote in those areas most impressionable and earnestly malliable by their “fundamental change” message – without caring about the associations, or true idea of what that “change” meant. The campaign did state fairly, once the “re-distribution” slip came out with “Joe the plumber”, what that would mean. And because the mainstream media did not do their job, the true fruits of the labors of Barack Obama during his career, his wife Michelle and those closest to him, Rahm Emanuel, Reverend Wright, Tony Rezko, Richard Daly, Andy Stein – SEIU, Valerie Jarrett, Bill Ayers, David Axelrod, Joel Rogers, Community Organizations like Acorn and “philanthropic organizations” such as Appolo Alliance, Joyce Foundation, and environmental organizations like the Emerald City Collaborative, and more – were not put before the public to decide just what was behind this ideal. Candidate Obama stated that he was a Progressive Democrat, as did Hillary Clinton, and therein lies the true nature of the fall of our republic, and it isn’t inherent in just the Democratic party. There are Progressives, who believe that Government Control is the only way for true Social Justice, and some, while outwardly honest and well meaning, will always kill the basic tenets of our Constitution. Without term limits, true campaign contribution reform and the outlawing of lobbyism, the corruption these considerations allows will only lead us to socialism. Don’t decry Glenn Beck or anyone who would give you a lead to the undercurrents at play. Use them as a spring board to investigate on your own. Look at what is going on in government. Disclose Act, Financial Reform, Healthcare, this oil spill disaster, there are too many insidious actions at work by this administration and the majority in power that will erase this republic if they are not stopped. Wake up, and vote for the best person but do your own homework, it takes time, but it is our job, as it is written in the Constitution. God Bless America.

    • chuck b

      momconservative

      very good, you said it right. one thing that you failed to mention, barry soetoro at this time is preparing to give amnesty to the illegals, he and his henchmen are trying to put together a move that will give amnesty to almost all the illegals with exception of some, they will bypass congress, where they don’t have the votes and use the executive order. with this added vote (the illegals) barry will never be voted out of office, the democrats will retain congress and we will look just like venezuela.
      if the people of this country allow these criminals in the administration to circumvent normal procedure then we are truly headed for a communist dictatorship.

      • American Citizen

        Chuck, I believe what he is trying to do is illegal according to the Constitution and is an impeachable offense.

  • Tak Loufer

    and again chuck b misses the point. Stop trying to put out the little flames that bother you and find the points that really matter-some 12 million americans is not going to destroy us. The system is what is failing. We are trying to solve a modern worlds problems with solutions that didn’t work a hundred years ago. The Progressives on both sides are attempting to find real solutions that take into account what is happening today-not what you want to be happening today.
    And Mommykconservative, if you are going to blame everything on one admisistration-maybe it should be the one that had the power for 8 years . We wont see the true effects of this administratiion for a while yet. you blame oil spills on this admin not the people that set up the system that was inherited.
    For that matter , stop blaming others and accept the responsability that you have let slip. We the progressives are not communist, We are socialist, we are not anti god we are anti using god as a weapon. Look toward the future and let go of a constraining past

  • chuck b

    tak loufer

    the economy of this country is effected by the immigration look at any big city, look at los angeles a third world city. the illegal aliens and our citizens on the dole have depleted our economy. you say another 12 million will not hurt, its not 12 its more like 20-30 million, these people are on our welfare even the ones working for the most part, what do you think is dragging down the economy. you have your head in the sand. barry wants the vote from these illegals, if he doesn’t get them registered by november the communist party usa (dem) could be in trouble. barry is even considering using the exectutive order to give the illegals amnesty and register them to vote. he is using the oil spill to to deflect the attention of the citizenry from his under the table agenda, thats why he is blocking anyone from cleaning up the oil.
    you assert you are a socialist, that fact has already been determind, socialism has never worked and i for one don’t plan to stand by and let people like you bring this country down. your socialist party has had the power of the congres for the last 4 1/2 years, the presidency for 1 1/2 yrs, just look at the mess we have and its only going to get worse. you blame it on bush, well you are wrong again, bush was just a weak man, he tried to appease the democratic congress and senate and the republicans for the time they were in power up to 1006 tried to act like democrats. hopefully we will be able to stop barry from his underhanded agenda and be able to vote conservative people into office in november and stop your socialist agenda and remove the rino repubs. if there is a god and i try to believe there is, i will use him as a weapon to defend this nation against the likes of you and your party and remove the islams from this nation before its too late. socialism never works only leads to a dictatorship (barry knows this)

    • eddie47d

      Your anger is controlling your logic for there are no Islams running or controlling this country. You can’t lie your way in or out of an issue.

  • http://verizon Freedom first

    Who cares about Bush and Gore, that was 8 years ago. you better focus on the here and now before it is to late. I have a friend from Guina who moved here 27 years ago when his country became socialist and everything was nationalized.
    he talks of the times when they had freedom of speach, good jobs in the private sector, homes, property rights etc. All of the things we take for granted today he lost 27 years ago and came to America leaving his mother, Father, brothers and sisters behind. He has since sent his 2 sons and 1 daughter to college in which they are now very successful.He went home last month to visit and could not believe that the country is still in ruins and still ran by a dictator Government that keep its people socially enslaved.
    now he sees the same kind of policys and talking points that he heard in his home country starting here. He will be the first one to tell you Government is not the answer but the problem, he has lived it first hand for 6 years waiting on a list before he made it to America searching for freedom and a new start as a legal alien.
    As he sacrificed to provide his family a better life and personal freedoms in America so then shall we.
    By the way my friend is a black American and did not vote for Obama, his reason he heard all of this talk of hope and change 27 years ago in his home land and has seen first hand how it destroyed his home all in the name of fairness and equality IE wealth redistribution. all of the private industry owners and investers pulled out of the country and left it bankrupt.
    I will defend Freedom and Liberty from Communist for my Children and Grand children.
    vote in November get rid of all of the socialist and communist elitest lets take back our country one vote at a time.
    God Bless America!

    • American Citizen

      Amen, the ignorance by those on the left is appalling. They seem not to know what it is they voted for. Some are waking up, I hope enough to help this November.

  • Ed

    You might as well all get used to it. The New revolution is coming. Since the “have’s” don’t want to share, the have nots will take over government by sheer numbers. They will take what they need and want that way…… You can complaine that it is ruining the country, but the have nots have nothing to lose. You don’t hear homeless guys complaining….and if they are citizens, then homeless, poor, bum, it doesn’t matter, this is their country also and have a right to vote. The republicans chose the wrong voters to care about with their rich bankers, business people, big business. The Democrats on the other hand represent a growing group of voters….and not much anything can do about it…they have birthrates on their side….

    • American Citizen

      You are one living in ignorance. Go study history and you will see what you are in for.

  • Michael

    The problem with debates in America is that people are so polarized, that practical solutions can never be implemented because they’re either labled socilaist/communist or capitalist/right wing. The health care debate is a prime example. If Americans want to stick with private healthcare then fine but there should be checks and balances in the system.For example – if a hard working American on an average wage who is responsible and pays for health insurance becomes sick or has a pre-existing condition – he should not have to go bankrupt because either the insurance company wont cover the pre-existing condition or it stops funding the care. I don’t understand the number of Rush Limbaugh listeners who work at very low paying jobs spend so much time slagging Obama and praising Rush when the are at a genuine risk of losing everthing if they get sick – they are hard working people and deserve better! Private healthcare is great for Rush…. he doesn’t even use insurance companies… he just pays cash. How many of his listeners can say the same? It’s an outrage! I’m a health professional and I’ve worked in the US, Canada, and Europe and have seen the benefits and limitations of different healthcare systems. The American system does a lot of things right but it also gets alot of things wrong. – and I certainly don’t have a problem with private healthcare. – I’m currently living in the UK and was considering taking a job in the US but because of a pre-existing medical condition, I’d never be able to afford it. Something has to be done.

    • American Citizen

      That’s what’s wrong with the so-called healthcare bill. It doesn’t take care of what’s really needed. All it will do is ruin our healthcare system and drive us into bankruptcy.

  • chuck b

    michael-ed

    bring on the revolution its going to happen anyway, you people that want something for nothing are going to get exactly that-nothing!! michael doesn’t want to enter the u.s because he can’t get free health care, so problem solved stay in the uk. ed is threatening with a revolution, so get with it, you and your muslim buddies will end up right where you belong, living in a tent and herding camels!! we may throw in a few illegals to help you.

    • Michael

      What a rediculous reply! I’m certainly not looking for free healthcare! I’m pro business, pro military and certainly not an ultra left wing socialist who expects the state to provide for everything! I’ve paid for my own education and have never accepted a state benefit in my life! My point is that there are many hard working American’s who like myself want to pay their own way. – But, in my experience working in healthcare – it is obvious that if someone has a serious or chronic illness – most people would never be able to afford the associated costs! If you have to change employers or have a pre-existing condition you’re screwed! That should never happen to a responsible member of society who PAYS THEIR OWN WAY! There should be changes in American Health care so that if you’re a big insurance company there has to be funding made available to those who have chronic or pre-existing conditions. I’m not sure what your income is per year Chuck b but unless you’re a multi-millionaire… you better pray that you don’t end up with a chronic illness ….. you may very well eat you words! So just for the record – I’m not looking for a free ride but I want a better deal for all hardworking Americans – and Obama’s attempts at making constructive changes are at least moving us in the right direction!

  • http://www.gamespot.com/users/iowastate/ Jim McBride

    More research need to be done. Lord Woodhouse was actually Alexander Fraser Tytler and while he was an historian who wrote several books there is no record of The Fall of the Athenian Republic so the quotation while nice is probably also a myth and was concocted for the election of 2000.

    I remember this vaguely from back then and the facts about the states….the population is correct but the murder rates were not right.

    links to prove the research for the “facts” as being such would be nice.

    I have searched long and hard and find little information on A.F. Tytler other than a few used books and that same quote which is “attributed to him” because it has been on the internet for so many years

  • Tak Loufer

    Check B says ” if there is a god and i try to believe there is, i will use him as a weapon to defend this nation against the likes of you and your party and remove the islams from this nation before its too late. ” when you use hate as an argument you have already lost. Even if you were to destroy all that you hate your legacy would be one of putrification and waste.
    Ed is right- a government of the people and there are more of us. and Michael is right-poor people defending republicans is so wrong. Health care is just one of the issues where the impact on the poor is so different than on the rich

    • American Citizen

      In other words, it’s OK with you for Democrats to be Robbing Hoods instead of helping the poor to be self-sufficient.

  • chuck b

    tak loufer

    back to herding your camels, careful they don’t walk on your rug.

  • David J. Sanchez

    After reading these many comments to the above article I am coming to the logical conclusion that people have all kinds of opinions, just as we all have belly buttons. Look the bottom line is whomever came up with that quote no matter who it’s author was, is very correct. The electorate are getting more and more desperate as the economy has worsened and their voting reflects it, as those that don’t understand that the Democrats have been overcome by a Progressive/socialist mentality and are well on the way to bankrupting this Nation. And yes, there are members of the Republican Party that are also complacent in voting for laws that also run against the free enterprise system which when properly regulated to avoid monopolistic control, but left free to provide us with solutions to the needs of society will prove to be better than having the government spoon feed us, and tax us until there is no money left to tax. This health care bill is a fiasco and another in the long list of unconstitutional legislation passed by the dimwits in Congress who themselves have created the problems in the first place by limiting who can by what insurance and only within state boundaries, etc. If there is truly a problem with conformity of the businesses in performing their fiduciary duties then make sure they do their job in providing services properly, but other than that let the government get out of the way. The Founders of this great Nation knew that an informed public/electorate would be the most important element in keeping this country around and solvent. So please again wake up and understand that even Thomas Jefferson stated that every generation or two that there possibly could be the need for some kind of a battle for the minds of the people in order keep this country on track as the Bill of Rights/Constitution would be trashed by the greed and corruptness of certain individuals in positions of power. Vote for the ideas of the person running for office and not on his or her party platforms. Thank God for the people of the Tea Party for waking up a number of corrupt politicians to the fact that their days in office are numbered. Bring on the Autumn 2010 elections to begin the drive to right the wrongs of today. Dave S.

  • http://herringtons.home.mindspring.com lighterknot

    Red is linked primarily to communist nations; Red China, Russia and others
    Red is hot; a strong emotional color from passion and love to rage and warfare – it represents cupid and the devil. Studies have shone it can raise blood-pressure and respiration. Those who employ it as symbolic of their purpose are subject to be passionate control freaks. I’d say very appropriate for the GOP, the Catholic Church and don’t get me wrong it’s a primary color and I love it. Add a little complimentary Green and it’s Christmas.

    Navy blue carries the blue symbolism of importance, confidence, power, and authority. Darker blue, like navy, is associated with intelligence, stability, unity, and conservatism. Is that not ironic the devil must have done it.

    You might want to read Jennifer Government by Max Berry the out come of privatization. Very Interesting.

    • chuck b

      lighterknot

      whoever designated the color red to the republicans must have been a democrat, red so describes the democratic party, the color fits with their communist view. so the media must have made the choice in order to keep people from identifying the color with democrats, logical wouldn’t you say!

  • GRANDPA TERRY R

    I THINK A LOT MORE PEOPLE WOULD UNDERSTAND IF THEY HAD FOUGHT FOR FREEDOM ANYWHERE. I THINK A PROBLEM WOULD BE SOLVED IN MANY WAYS IF THEY HAD. Think about it we had fewer problems when we had the draft. I think if this country were to go to the popular vote it would change many things. But I believe that they need to pass a bill to place the CHRISTIAN Ethics back into the system. Restore the pledge of alliegance and teach the forefathers history and correct the lies in schools AND TEACH THE COMSTITUTION. If not then allow home schooling to be taught where voted for. THEN Place a larger fence around this Nations borders and only allow those into our country who speak English and kick the others out ON GREEN CARDS ETC.Come on let’s get AMERICA BACK.!! Join the TEA Party and get the commies off our soil! This includes terrorists. Anybody who wants to kill Americans is not welcome IN THE USA. GOD Bless our Country and our Christian History AND REMEMBER THE REASON FOR RED WHITE AND THE BLUE. ALL those that are with the Radical MUSLIMS GO HOME !! Let us get back to living an american way of life, the way all other countries wish they OUR WAY OF life. They have always wished they could be AMERICANS, duuh doesn’t this tell you something people. I agree with grandma Susan, but as well with patriots. I feel we need to remember our Roots and how they came to pass. I like that letter that tells the president that he sold Israel down the River. THANKS TO J. VOIGHT, How soon we forget the years of Hitler. WAKE UP FOLKS, remember this when votes start piling up on November 2010, GERMANY WAS ASLEEP WHEN HITLER TOOK IT. LETS get the PRESENT Democrats out and clean house. FOLKS if you have it all one sided you will get the siting group in congress and the White house back in to finish the job ! COME ON FOLKS WAKE UP DON”T EVER GO TO SLEEP AGAIN !! Watch out for others that come in from other Countries. AND JUST ONE BIRTH CERTIFICATE IN THE PRESIDENCY OR THE GOVT. POSITIONS – no one allowed that was not BORN IN AMERICA please RE-DO THE YEARS POLICY, Perhaps this should go for Governors and for SENATORS As WELL.? Watch that guy from Russia that Helped the Illinois senator ? YOU KNOW THAT FAT FELLA THEY PUT INTO PLAYBOY ? NEXT WILL BE THE GOVERNOR SON OF THE SS OFFICER WHO IS BEING GROOMED AS WE SPEAK !! THE ONLY ACTOR THAT WAS ANY GOOD WAS Ronald Reagan WHO WARNED US OF THIS. WATCH OUT FOR FEDERAL BANKERS AND THEIR CLUB WHICH HE ALSO WARNED US ABOUT. REMEMBER WE HAVE A DICTATOR IN POWER RIGHT NOW AS WE DID NOT LISTEN TO R. REAGAN. IT MAY GET WORSE IF WE DON’T GET SARAH P AND ROMNEY IN THEIR PLACE NEXT. EXPRESS IN THEIR SWEARING IN THAT THEY USE THE HOLY BIBLE NOT A CORRAN AND THEY USE THE WORDS TO DEFEND THE CONSTITUTION MORE TIMES THAN ONCE. NOW GO GET IN THE T-PARTY PLEASE ? GET OUR USA BACK AGAIN.!!

    PATRIOT VOICE – TERRY R

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  • Denis

    What a dumb analysis. Its people who vote. It doesn’t matter how red you make your map look. Its a map on a piece of paper. The map represents the land component of a country. It does not count people, it depicts acerage. The man who won the election simply got the most votes by the eligable voters who exercised their right to vote. You may not like him as president but the people voted for him. The day dirt votes, (that could be rhetorical) will be the day when the people no longer have the right to vote for a choice of individuals and you live in a dictatorship. Problem is there is not enough choices and too few people who exercise their right to vote

    • American Citizen

      All those colors mean is how most of the citizens who live in those counties voted, it doesn’t mean the dirt. Get real.

  • Anonymous

    Yikes! I really wish that everyone engaged in heated argument within these comments could take a step back and recognize the hurtful things that are being said through the anonymity of the web. Nobody is going to change anybody’s mind by name calling, generalizations and buzz words. In an ideal world, some semblance of civil discussion could happen here. Perhaps both sides could learn from each other. At the very least we would respect those expressing their opinions even if we intensely disagree.

  • Gayle naar

    This article should be correctly reported, this is a map from 2000 and the colors was to show the different counties voting and murder rates and was also falsely attributed. How can you show the same map in the 2008 election. The provider of this article should replace it with the truth as provided on such sites as http://www.truthorfiction.com/rumors/o/joseph-olson.htm

    So many untruths and so few truths, if it sounds like something you want to hear, then you should tell the story, if the truth hurts you, then don’t replace truth with false information.

  • jopa

    Denis; It is not just the map it is also the title of the article with the word scariest. It’s a term used by the conservatives to keep the chicken littles in line.The old boogeyman is coming do’nt use common sense in the next election do as I say or you will die.Then what happens.The last time one of their picks was elected a lot of people died and are still dying because of their choice.WAKE UP America and read both sides of the story.

    • DaveH

      I agree that we shouldn’t aspire to be the World’s Policemen. But we also shouldn’t institutionalize theft. It degrades the work ethic of those who make the effort, and as a result, it certainly erodes the economy over time.
      There is only one Party that doesn’t want the US to be the World’s Policemen and also respects peoples right to retain their hard-earned money as their own. That is the Libertarian Party:
      http://libertarianparty.org/platform

  • http://www.gods-diet.com/ Donald Ballard

    Does anybody feel like singing… http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q59ZcFguUOo

    • Jim H.

      Donald, Thanks, that was very entertaining. If I had a better singing voice, I would be out in public singing it out.

  • Raul Pompa

    So their is more red then blue to me red stands for communism . could it be we want to become communist under a dictator rule named republicans . since they lost the white house and congress the republicans are pisted because they lost . they had 8 years to correct what the democrats did instead they made the same mistake spend spend spend . and created a recession and now they are whining . because they want to go back and spend my taxs dollars again .what a crock of B.S. when both parties are guilty america is on her way to self destruction due to our democrats and republicans .

  • Corduroy

    Teabaggers would probably love to go back to voting power in the hands of landowners and return to the days of power in proportion to how much land people own like the 18th century, but luckily we vote based on people, not square acreage.

    • Jim H.

      Corduroy, I’m not sure what tea baggers want. I’m more interested in what the Tea PARTY movement want to do FOR us.

  • chuck b

    corduroy
    that’s a great idea since the biggest percentage of the democratic party nowadays can hardly read or write.

  • you said it

    guess what party elected C grade president, think you can say we can’t read and you can’t find anything better than C grade.

    • chuck b

      you said it

      you confirm my post.

    • you said it

      perhaps you should read history for real truths, certain parties seem to unable to face truths, they would rather climb a tree and tell a lie than to stay on the ground and tell the truth. First check on the article and you will find it was produced before the 2008 elections and had to do with murder rates. Now lets see who can read

  • meteorlady

    Why is it that we put up with election fraud, voter fraud and misrepresentation by BOTH parties? We accept that a person can win the most important election in this country and loose by popular vote. The Democrats in Texas have the “Texas two step”. The Democratic voters go vote in the primary – and in 2008 Hilary won the primary, then the Democrats have caucasus which most can’t or don’t attend and low and behold Obama wins and gets on the ballot. Other states redistrict so that they have more democrats or republicans in the largest districts. So we all just go and vote and believe that it’s all fair and square huh?

  • Eric S

    It is sad that attention is not paid to the local, state, and primary elections equally to Federal elections. By not doing this you end up with the inevitable, “the choice between the lesser of two evils”. Forty years ago our fathers would of ran this electoral out with bananets and pitch forks with our mothers loading their bags with all the necessary ammo. This has been a steady decline since 1913. That decline was the gradual and now blatant disrespect to govern by the constitution. It is time to take that back. Perhaps we can learn a lesson from the story of “The Little Red Hen”. Produce less so less can be given to all “The Little Blue Dots”. That would be amusing.

  • VA Kid

    IMO: I think everyone on this board should vote the OPPOSITE of what they voted last time. Clearly a vast majority of people on this thread haven’t a real clue about why they vote the way they do.

    I hear “We’s needing ta take back our cuntry”. HELLO! Country is still here… not going any where. No body has taken anything away from you. Its all in your own state-of-mind. This is silly talk.

    OR

    “Republicans are just a bunch of morons and racists”. Unfortunately, all the white racists groups flock to the republican party BUT… that makes up less than .1% of the population for republicans. Black racists flock to the Democratic party… so in my opinion… that’s a wash out. Both sides should work on eliminating these crazy people from their parties.

    Everyone has different needs and wants… what Reps/Dems need to understand is that not everyone is going to agree with you. When that happens you the PERFECT storm for a dictatorship. You should be happy not everyone sees your side of the story. Iran has 1 ideology in their country. Anyone want to move there??? Didn’t think so.

    LOL… here’s my crazy talk. We need to cut this 2 party baby bullstuff out. Meanwhile CHINA is watching from the sidelines laughing their butts off. $428B spent on Chinese food and 80% of wal-mart’s $400B products come from China. When was the last time you saw an American working or owning a local Chinese food store? Count the number of those you see versus the number of McDs? How many people from China have to be in this country in order to run those stores? Answer: Millions! Of Communist! Who have a honest distaste for Americans. Mexicans at least don’t hate America! Heck they use to own it. We’ll need their help in the near future.

  • KR

    LOL, I’m not scared of Communist, the U.N., the government, etc,etc,etc. I’m scared of the millions of people that support the President. Because those are the people that I’ll be exchanging shots with in the next few years. Look at that map again…….

    Its the populated areas that voted blue. All those ‘out in the country’ areas, are filled with red neck, hill billy, coon huntin, red bellied folks. Those people love America and what it truly stands for. They spill the majority of their blood for us in all our wars.

    When things start coming to pissing matches, you don’t want to get in these people’s way. Stubborn and firm, bold and courgeous these true Americans are. Our country was born once by guerilla warfare fighting, it will be reborn once again by guerilla warfare if it comes back down to it.

    But God forbid that any of this happens. I don’t condone this behavior. But I’ll be damned, to let this country be turned into the U.S.S.R. or a socialist nation or a 3rd world country.

    God bless America and may we never see another civil war, but He knows we are ready for it and He will bless us.

  • Hubie

    It doesn’t matter where the population votes, it is the electorial college which is one of the biggest bribe infested areas of our so called system. Along with special interest groups, lobbiest and not to mention the politicians themselves, what corruption we have. Several postings have said it, the elected officials DO NOT CARE ABOUT THE INDIVIDUALS, they are looking to get reelected and keep the bribes keep coming.

    I don’t know why they want to keep getting elected though, they voted themselves life time pentions at full salary after they serve only one term. If you can not live on $169k a year with free insurance there is something wrong with you. I guess it is the real cause of it all, GREED!! See what I got and can do, I will give you and extra $250 to spend one year but I will vote myself a guaranteed pay raise every year and life time security. Yes sir I really helped the individual.

    We need to vote them all out, install term limits, do away with NAFTA, do away with government subsidies because I can not get enough money for what I am doing so pay me to do nothing; now that really inspires productivity. We have forgotten what JFK said and inspired a bunch of folks, “Ask not what the country can do for, but ask what I can do for the country.”

    Get the jobs back in the U.S., if you want a welfare check, get off your duffer and do something for it. We did it after the depression. I lot of city buildings, zoos, public arenas and the list goes on, so what do we do today, extend welfare payments, give them more freebies, give them free health care, make it easier for them to stay home and live better than most middle income families do because we have to pay for all of it.

    Okay off the soap bax. We need real change in all forms of government not just Washington and all the B.S. that once again was run down our throats by a smooth talking community organizer.

  • Doug Rodrigues

    Interesting how decades of Liberal Public School “Education” has created enough brain dead citizens who would more than gladly fall to their knees, with hands out stretched, to receive government control of everything. The Founding Fathers are spinning in their graves!

  • http://n/a Gary

    This is a lie!!
    On election night, I watched the maps, with interest!
    Why? Because, although a liberal (Clinton and now Obama) has won three of the seven General Elections, I’ve voted in – I turned 20, on the day Reagan became president — I am overjoyed to always note that the state, in which I voted (first, Georgia, then Texas, then Georgia again) has always been majority Conservative.
    I’ve even noted that the blacks, in the South (whom the lily-livered liberals court for votes) have voted conservative, the past three General Elections.

  • Angel

    “In fact, 45 percent of adults in America pay no income taxes at all.” Chippy – you are stoned!

  • Michael

    I responded to Chuck b re: my thoughts on healthcare reform in the US. He doesn’t seem to want to debate the issue – short of the normal throw in phrase of “you just want free healthcare”. I’m curious to see what other people think of my comments on June the 27th 2010.

    • chuck b

      michael

      have you read the healthcare bill? please do, do not do like the democrats, most of these people have been hoodwinked into thinking their medical problems are all over and they are getting free medical care from now on. this bill is nothing more than a juggling act to raise tax. the insurance companies are all ready raising their rates as barry planned they would do and we have single payer hc starring us in the face, isn’t that what you have now? (uk) the demos were looking for tax money and what the democrat peasantry thought was better hc are going to get their tax raised thru the roof and end up on single payer 3rd world hc.

      • Michael

        Thanks for your reply Chuck b.
        We may not be as far apart on the healthcare issue as it first appeared. My main concern at the end of the day is ensuring that there are some measures to fill the gaps when insurance companies either can’t cover or won’t cover charges that are associated with essential medical care. My experience in the US (and many of my patients’ experiences in the US) is that even with some of the best private healthcare coverage – if the person has a long term illness – in many cases the coverage runs out or if the person has to change employers they lose their coverage for their pre-existing condition. Even the most responsible patients can find themselves in this situation. – This shouldn’t happen in a modern western society that competes for the best standard of living in the world. It can also hinder business competetiveness because if you are trying to recruit skilled professionals – they shouldn’t be limited buy “healthcare funding restrictions” i.e. not taking a new position because you can’t get appropriate healthcare coverage. – I don’t care how it’s achieved whether it’s public, private or a combination of both – something has to be done. It’s the likes of Rush Limbaugh who pays “cash” for his healthcare while trying to convince his listeners that healtcare reform isn’t needed that is so concerning – I was shocked to hear one of his listeners – who was a manager at “Dollar General” on a very average salary agreeing with Rush – She wouldn’t have a chance if she had a long term illness and had to change employers. When this fear of loss of coverage is taken out of American healthcare the real benefits of private healthcare will be realized.

  • Mark

    How ridiculous. It sounds like the writer believes that only Republican votes should count – or that they should somehow count MORE than Democratic votes. Sorry, folks, but we’re all Americans, whether you like it or not.

    • http://PersonalLibertyDigest Linda

      NO YOU ARE NOT AMERICAN BECAUSE IF YOU WERE YOU WOULD SEE THE TROUBLE THAT IS COMING, BELIEVE ME IF YOU LIKE A COMMUNIST STATE GO TO NORTH KOREA K????????

  • you said it

    Chip Wood should retract his article and replace it with the truth about this map. This is not from 2008 election but rather from 2000 election and also the original article was about murder rates. Probably he received this information from someone, but lets get the facts straight. The truth will set you free.

    • http://none Chip Wood

      Hey, “you said it,” every single fact in my article is exactly as I stated. There is nothing to replace, because none of them are wrong. To tell you the truth, I don’t know if every single county is the right color in the map. I didn’t check them. Did you?

      Chip

      • you said it

        Do some checking on http://www.truthorfiction.com/rumors/o/joseph-olson.htm and see if you read something about 2000 in their article.

        • http://none Chip Wood

          What I’m hearing is “don’t confuse me with facts, I’ve already made up my mind.” I love how you guys on the left will never dispute out facts, just make a bunch of unproven allegations. Sadly, that seems to work just fine with the num-nums you get to vote for you.

          Chip Wood

          • libertytrain

            Well said —-

        • http://www.SaveLakeAtitlan.org Duende

          Good research ..well …almost, and I was with you for a moment there but I checked Olson’s profile on Hamline University’s website. Olson was only saying he hadn’t authored the numerous articles he’d been credited with. He never stated what the map was that Chip used in his article. Chip never mentioned Olson’s name. I think ya jumped the gun in this case.

  • Palin12

    “As I look out…all accross America… I don’t see red states….I don’t see blue states….I see a UNITED States of America”–Barack Obama, 2008 campaign. Yeah, right.

    • Denniso

      A president tries to unify the country around common purpose and all you can do is trash him. Typically, the Dems try to bring the country together and the Repubs try to polarize it…the Repubs are winning at that.

      • jbird

        Yeah, by pitting poor against rich, union against non-union, black against white, hispanics against everyone else. Real unifiers, the Dems.

      • Palin12

        You think we’re just gonna sit back and accept all of Obummer’s agenda? Is that what you morons think we have to do to be unified? I, for one, will never accept Obamacare ( I refuse to pay for the health of people who don’t take care of their own health,ie. smokers, 400-pounders, druggies, homos with AIDS, etc). Nor will I ever accept amnesty, tax increases to fund Pelosi’s $100,000 booze intake, or homosexual marriage. When Obummer made that comment it was nothing more than campaign rhetoric, no truth to it at all.

        • Denniso

          ‘Homos w/ aids’?? Boy,is that an intellectual comment…if you were smart enough you would know that having private insurance of any kind means you are paying for other people already who either crash their cars often or don’t take care of their health…use your brain.

          • Palin12

            My insurance is paid my employer, moron. Doesn’t cost me a penny.

          • Palin12

            My point is that with Obamacare, a young healthy guy who takes good care of himself, is going to be compelled to pay into a pool to take care of these people with risky behaviors. There is nothing fair about that at all. Unfortuneatly, the liberals do not understand the concept of personal responsability. And didn’t they call this “Affordable Act..” According to my local newspaper yesterday, if I were paying into it individually, for someone in my age bracket, they are talking about $500 a month. That’s $6,000 a year for something I probably won’t use. It should be my choice, not the government’s.

          • Denniso

            Sure moron…I guess you need help understanding that you are paying for your insurance through your salary. Do you really think your employer is giving you ‘free’ insurance? And don’t you pay a portion of the premium anyway? Employers started giving benefits like health insurance decades ago rather than giving pay raises,so your salary would be higher if you weren’t getting the benefit of insurance. You pay through a lower salary…got it? And so, you are paying for people who don’t take care of themselves already.

          • Palin12

            duhniso, you are so predictable. Of course I was talking about out-of-pocket expenses, not about “Virtual” money that I have no access to and that is not taxed. I have $10 co-pays for medical visits if that’s what your talking about, idiot. The laws are different in different states so don’t pretend to be an expert in my state. You sound like a typical union thug.

        • Michael

          As a healthcare professional who’s worked in the US, Canada and Europe – I’m always amazed at the black and white attitude to healthcare by many Americans. American healthcare does many things right but that’s not to say there isn’t flaws in the system. If you are a hard working American who earns an average wage, takes care of your family and buys private insurance – there should be some guarantees available to you. If you change employers or have a pre-existing condition or have a long term illness – there should be facilities available to protect you from having to pay excessive charges out of pocket or worse going bankrupt.
          I can assure you that there are many limitations in the US health insurance industry that need to be addressed now. Many of my patients are hard working people who were suddenly taken down in their prime by a major illness only to later have the additional problem of losing everything because of their insurance company’s coverage limits.
          It’s the likes of Rush Limbaugh who really takes the healthcare debate to rediculous levels. I was listening to his show when he came back from his health scare. He was saying how perfect the American heathcare system is and how it doesn’t need to be changed. There was a caller who said she worked at dollar general earning an average wage and how she totally agreed with Rush. – Meanwhile he said that he doesn’t let insurance companies get in between him and his doctor and he pays cash for everything. How many of his listeners can say that!

          Business competetiveness is also affected because if you are trying to recruit skilled professionals quickly you may not be able to get the ones you want becuause they cannot afford to change insurance companies due to a pre-existing condition.

          I’m am pro-business, pro-military, and certainly not a lefty by any means. I’m an independent who has never accepted a state benefit in my life! – There are many Americans who would be just like me – and all of us deserve some protections to ensure that we have access to quality healthcare!If Obama can stop the suffering of hard working Americans e.g. who change jobs, have chronic or pre-existing conditions etc. then I’m in favour of Obama care. It may not be perfect either but it should provide additional protective measures for all Americans.

      • libertytrain

        Denniso per your words -”A president tries to unify the country around common purpose and all you can do is trash him. Typically, the Dems try to bring the country together and the Repubs try to polarize it…the Repubs are winning at that”

        I noticed how well the Dems tried to bring the country together in the prior 8 years and how they were so tolerant with the last president and were great at supporting the president —

  • Anthony

    Thanks, once again, to Chip Wood, for getting straight to the point of “what counts” for educating one’s self in defense of Liberty and what tactics are needed to affect such cause.

    It was no shock to me that the URBAN areas were exactly where Obama got all of his votes – this strategy of “using the masses, even against their own good will” was planned decades & decades ago, and is essentially the bread and butter of the Politicians.

    “The first is the soap box. By and large, we’re doing a good job telling ourselves what’s wrong. But we’re not doing as well telling others.”

    For myself, Chip – I can say “I do discuss” the facts laid out here, along with how this Ship got hi-jacked in the first place.

    The real problem – is that so many are so indoctrinated (I call it, SIT UBU SIT syndrome). They immediately run to the TV, to allow themselves to “be told what to think”… and “when to think it”…. I quit doing that a long, long time ago.

    I seriously wonder just how many here are actually spending time out by the back fence chatting with their neighbors… or sitting just in front of their garages after work, over a beer or two and making THIS the favored discussion of the evening. We can ALL get on here and agree with each other – that’s the easy part. In fact, this is the “too easy” part.

    I won’t denigrate it, however, because I always learn more, and more, and more, each time I come back to see comments of others … so, this backyard fence will do me just fine.

    The 2nd comment, by LINDA, got my attention immediately. Not sure where she got that attitude about no one getting riled up when GW hit the Oval Office. But, we were assaulted with 9/11 just as the election was dying down…. and no one knew anything close to the real facts of that event until years later. BUT, you can certainly bet there were thousands of us screaming when the 1st Patriot Act was pushed thru Congress…. which had a “majority” of Democrats running the show. Remember back then? It was Tommy Daschle who was the Senate Leader. I don’t need to read this half-baked, half-researched commentary. I am sure LINDA means well…. but, she seriously needs to learn how to GOOGLE up her research before she comments.

    LINDA – the whole nonsense over the 2000 election, was NOT about Al Gore getting to be President – with what you know about him now… would you still have wanted him to represent you? Seriously?

    THE REAL ISSUE about the 2000 election… was the “hanging chads”, remember ?

    The people behind the CFR and the Trilateral, and Bilderberg NEEDED all of us to “want” computer-ized voting booths… computerized means corruptable, without YOUR knowing it. Try googling up what they say these days on the computer-code of almost ALL voting machines and how it can be programmed to affect (constantly) whatever outcome is desired by the CFR, etc., on a 51-49% margin…. and the Voters are “always” clueless…. ALWAYS CLUE-LESS, LINDA

    Dave riling at ConservativeAtBirth is more than just plain wasting of a keyboard….. He obviously hasn’t done ANY real homework on anything. I’ve read several dozen websites that discuss political campaigning tactics and the “people’s TAX DOLLARS, Dave” that are used to “manipulate us, Dave”… with the very research it takes to provoke US in the desired manner, Dave, without most of us even knowing what the heck they are up to….. and, Dave, you can thank your sold out/bought off Press Corps for the suppression of real news on that score. Maybe you need to use a sledgehammer on your TV, and start listening to internet talk radio – it’s a sure thing Rush, Hannity, or even Colmes… is never gonna let you in on the real dirt. Try listening to Alex Jones Radio…at least THAT would get you motivated …. maybe!

    As for what MOST VOTED FOR – I would offer there were two items used as BAIT, to get us to where we are today —
    1) Obviously, the BLACK VOTE was more important than just the FEMALE VOTE
    2) GW BUSH purposely allowed himself to be the core of the HATE animation in this Country

    Number Two was the more damaging of either – due to the fact that 9/11 didn’t turn out as well as it should have. From all the evidence I’ve read or watched, it was most certainly an “inside job” and nayhone who says otherwise, needs to go base themselves on the Forum Boards at SalonDOTcom and quit wasting their efforts here.

    The entire machinery that’s protected us for 200 hundred years suddenly fails us? You actually buy into that?

    The CFR and the Trilateral have gotten exactly what they wanted, by use of confusion and mis-direction and subterfuge —- all the machinations demanded of the Rothschild Clan, over 200 years ago, when they scammed those first millions away from German Royalty back in the 1750′s in Bavaria. The rest is (as they say) ….history.

    I’ve learned to see thru the nonsense – many here still have much to learn.

    Note to Viktor Leben: GOOD JOB. You’ve obviously done YOUR homework. Look for Patriots In Exile on Facebook.

    KNPatriot: You forgot to ask LINDA why it was supposedly okay for AL GORE to request a recount of ONLY the Blue areas in Florida…. Remember, ol’ AL was being VERY selective and omitting the rights of everyone else in the State with his selective requests.

    Folks – The thing I appreciate about Personal Liberty DOT com, is the fact that they do allow people like CHIP WOOD to post their Articles and thoughts, here for us to comment on and to debate endlessly.

    I’ve spent the last 18 months at hardcore research – only within the last few months do you see me posting with any regularity. AND, I can back up what I comment about. If anyone wants a source, or a website, just speak up …. or google the comment on your own, like I would do…. BEFORE you respond.

    Thanks, Chip …. keep em coming, partner!

    PS: No, Chip isn’t expecting anyone to see anything other than what he ACTUALLY WROTE. You may “want to” see something else in there … but, there isn’t. Anyone who thinks otherwise, needs to research the mechanics behind the Electoral College… and how it can be manipulated pending there is a willing press corps to assist in that accomplishment. After all, we are living in Hamilton’s America… not Jefferson’s. That stopped being the case back in the (quiet) Revolution of 1913 (for those that keep forgetting).

    • you said it

      I do not understand why Chip has not retracted this article and told the truth which is this map is from the 2000 election not the 2008 election. I had reviewed this before Obama was in the election, think there might be a problem with this article. If you need to check it out you will find information posted on truthorfiction.com.
      Why is it so difficult to post the truth about this map? Could it be someone wants to continue to submit article which does not reflect the truth, what are they scared of. The truth shall set them free.

  • G

    Notice Oklahoma is the ONLY totally RED state in the union!!!!

    • Denniso

      Yeah, scary isn’t it? But that doesn’t mean there aren’t people who can actually think in OK, it just means that each county has a majority of those who can’t.

  • Tanarus

    What part of (“Illegal”)Do people NOT understand?!?!…DAMN!!!

    America will never be destroyed from the outside.
    If we falter and loose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves.
    -Abraham Lincoln.

  • Al B Tross

    What an Idiot, Chip doesn’t realize that land doesn’t have the right to vote.
    And , as any Nazi propagandist would do, and DOES, he presents a faked map to prove his false point.

    Typical Authoritarian.

  • Destiny

    The Bilderberg Group selected obama to control the masses. They would be so happy to see all this in-fighting between us. They are starting a civil war between cities, states and people. More money and power for the powerful rich.
    I am a registered democrat who voted for John McCain. I am in a group called “puma” (party unity my ass). There were 5 million of us democrats that voted republican in Nov. 2008. We made a deal with each other come Nov. 2010 and Nov. 2012 that we will remember what the DNC and our party did to us by pushing a lying, anti-american, racist fraud as the democrat nomination. We are now taking a careful look at all the political candidates and we are voting as many as we can, out. If obama is campaigning for someone – their out! If they don’t defend the constitution – their out! Didn’t read the healthcare bill or the Arizona law – their out! If they defend obama during this oil crisis – their out!
    Any politician who doesn’t make jobs their top priority – their out! Side with the bankers – their out!
    If any politician is doing a favor for obama (Arlen Specter) – their out!

    I’m sorry to say, but anyone who believes that Bush is bringing down america, is sadly mistaken and is defending obama.

    Look around – jobs being taken away, homes in foreclosure, businesses collapsing. Obama is in the driver’s seat now and the american people have lost their confidence in this leader.

    The housing market was not the collapse of our economy. Jobs and businesses are at the root of our economy collapsing. People are having to pay $200/month for gasoline ($2,400 year), almost twice as much as 2 years ago. A family of 4 drivers are having to pay $9,600/yr. just for gasoline for their cars.
    The oil companies are beyond rich and we are being lied to. Electric, water and gas for our homes are twice the amount of money than 2 years ago. Here in Los Angeles, we are being fined for using too much water and electricity. All lies. Every street has a foreclosure on it. Food has skyrocketed. We are now paying over $12,000 a year just for basic utilities, insurances and car repairs. Our budget for food use to be $250/month ($3,000/yr), now we are paying ($5,400/yr). And, my husband and I just got laid off from our jobs.

    Obama’s stimulus package of 800 billion to the banks was the final nail in our coffin. If ‘they’ really wanted our economy to kick into gear, he would have given the people, the people the stimulus money and it would have cost us a fraction, a small fraction of 800 billion dollars to pay bills, buy homes, cars, schooling and vacations. It would have kept people working, and new jobs would have been created. Instead, obama owed the bankers for getting him in the white house and he had to pay them back right away. We, the american people will be paying his first and his second stimulus packages for generations to come. By that time, we will all be out of work and homeless.

    Something that everyone should know, is that everyone was ‘in’ on getting obama selected. It was a game plan between the DNC and the RNC.

    We must vote obama out in 2012 and we need to let the “Bilderberg Group” know that we know about them and what they are up to.

    We need to join together and stop fighting between us. We need to educate ourselves to the New World Order and why it would be the end of our freedoms. We need to educate ourselves to the “End The Fed” groups (Alex Jones) and we need to be apart of “party unity my ass”. We need to realize that Republicans and Democrats are the same and we need to be proud americans again and stand up for what is right.

    United we stand, divided we fall in the name of Freedom. Let the civil war begin!

  • worried in texas

    There are currently 810 responses to this article, I have read them all. Once I get past the name calling and back biting, I find the underlying theme. It is sad that we as consumers and voters have decided to follow our elected officials play book and divide ourselves as they have.

    The last line of this article states, “United we stand, divided we fall in the name of Freedom. Let the civil war begin!” It seems that we are being systematically divided. Talk radio has become mouth pieces for whatever cause generates the most controversy or revenue. The media is only interested in keeping us on the edge of our seats in hopes that we will tune in or buy whatever they are currently selling.

    As long as we are fighting each other our government has no accountability. We as citizens cannot even agree on which politician should be voted out for not doing the job we hired them to do. It is my hope that one day soon I will look on here and find at least some agreement across geopolitical as well as geographical lines, and send a clear message to our elected officials that enough is more than enough.

  • bgmohr

    . . .and Gore won the popular vote and lost the electoral college. So, what’s your point Chip? You lost, now get over it and quit seeing the world in black and white or in this case red and blue. The reality is that in every county there was enough people that voted for the losing party to turn the red or blue into a shade of purple. No county was purely red or purely blue anywhere in this country, it was a shade of purple that leaned just enough in one direction or the other to force the color into either red or blue.
    And now this “you’re either with me or against me” thinking is still with us because of people that continually post derisive propaganda to stir the pot. This won’t bring us together as a country nor as a people. We all want the same basic things in life- a long healthy life, good schools, nice neighbors, good roads, and the choice do what we want within reasonable boundaries otherwise known as freedom. The difference is how we get there.
    So Chip, do you have any solutions? No, just a soap box and a ballot box with the tenacity and stupidity to imply the use of an ammo box on your fellow Americans. We need solutions not finger pointing. We need people to come together and most importantly we need purple, not red or blue. We are Americans- the melting pot of the world.

  • Michael

    As a healthcare professional who’s worked in the US, Canada and Europe – I’m always amazed at the black and white attitude to healthcare by many Americans. It’s either totally private or if there is any government involvement or funding it’s socialist and everyone’s looking for a free ride. American healthcare does many things right but that’s not to say there isn’t flaws in the system. If you are a hard working American who earns an average wage, takes care of your family and buys private insurance – there should be some guarantees available to you. If you change employers or have a pre-existing condition or a long term illness – there should be facilities available to protect you from having to pay excessive charges out of pocket or worse going bankrupt.
    I can assure you that there are many limitations in the US health insurance industry that need to be addressed now. Many of my patients are hard working people who were suddenly taken down in their prime by a major illness only to later have the additional problem of losing everything because of their insurance company’s coverage limits.
    It’s the likes of Rush Limbaugh who really takes the healthcare debate to rediculous levels. I was listening to his show when he came back from his health scare. He was saying how perfect the American heathcare system is and how it doesn’t need to be changed. There was a caller who said she worked at dollar general earning an average wage and how she totally agreed with Rush. – Meanwhile he said that he doesn’t let insurance companies get in between him and his doctor and he pays cash for everything. How many of his listeners can say that!

    Business competetiveness is also affected because if you are trying to recruit skilled professionals quickly you may not be able to get the ones you need becuause they cannot afford to change insurance companies due to a pre-existing condition.

    I’m am pro-business, pro-military, and certainly not a lefty by any means. I’m an independent who has never accepted a state benefit in my life! – There are many Americans who are just like me – and all of us deserve some protections to ensure that we have access to quality healthcare!If Obama can stop the suffering of hard working Americans e.g. who change jobs, have chronic or pre-existing conditions etc. then I’m in favour of Obama care. It may not be perfect either but it should provide additional protective measures for all Americans. By making constructive changes that put patients first we all can enjoy the benefits of private healthcare… even if there is some supplemental funding from the government.

  • mmmjv

    I just read the entire article, including the last part about the
    This article goes from the absurd, land voting, to the outright chilling. The three boxes. The soap box and the ballot box, so far so good, but then if this guy doesn’t get his way at the polls he’s going to use the third box, the ammo box. Yeah, guns and ammo cause we all know the American way is that if you don’t like who won the election then you start shooting people.

    The scary thing here isn’t any map or picture. It’s not land not voting that’s the scary thing here. The scary thing here is that there are people like this guy, us normal people call them psychos. And the really scary thing is that there are others who follow them

    The feds and others who are responsible for the public safety need to keep an eye on these crazies

    • mmmjv

      Ignore the first line and start with “this article goes” part before that was supposed to be deleted

  • http://www.infowars.com/ Richard K

    What it amounts to is that the densely populated high crime areas went for Obama/Soetoro. These are the same areas that score low on student testing. Ignorant people make ignorant choices. With that in mind though, why did McCain even win the nomination? The press controls who wins by endorsing their pick and tearing down their opponents.

    Ron Paul was by far the best choice we have ever had for president in the history of our nation, but was not allowed to be heard by the majority of Americans. What Americans hear is controlled by the lame-stream media who told them Ron Paul was insane, crazy and senile. He is actually the only candidate who had solutions to our problems. If he were in now, we would be facing a much better outlook for the future. The truth about what has been happening in this nation for the last 10+ years needs to come out soon if we are to save this nation from total destruction. Nearly 10 years after 9-11 and most Americans believe only two skyscrapers fell in NYC on 9-11. The government and the media has hidden the facts about building 7 falling into it’s own footprint without any serious damage to it. Obama ,must be kicked out of office as he is not eligible and all legislation he has passed is not legal. His Supreme Court nominees get a boot in the A55!

    Obama/Soetoro for a fact blocked all cleanup of the oil whenever he could. He ordered 27 US Navy oil skimmers to stay in port when they were ready to go to the gulf the day after the rig was blown. 70 days after the leak began Soetoro/Obama released them when pressure from Gulf State senators and governors, the truth being released to the public through alternative media made him reluctantly move the skimming vessels at the lowest speed possible to the gulf. This is being “green”, of course, ordering the ships to save diesel fuel by moving very slowly at idle speed toward the gulf where they will most likely face several weeks, if not months of intense safety and return water quality inspections before being allowed to clean up the oil.

    The facts have surfaced that they knew several months in advance that the rig was going to blow, as if it may have been planned or allowed to happen or helped along to make it happen. Proof has surfaced that the company ignored warnings by the oil rig crew and captain that what they were doing was not safe and would cause it to blow up.

    I personally believe this was a deliberate terrorist attack by those who control BP who are also directly connected to the Rothschild Banking Mafia. The Global Government needs the Global Carbon Tax to establish and finance their control over the entire earth. The USA is their last obstacle standing in the way and this crisis Obama/Soetoro will use to pass the carbon tax for them. They don’t care about the environment, they only care about the power to control all of the planet. This has been a goal of all elite since the beginning of organized societal governments. All to never let a good crisis go to waste. When there is no crisis or the crisis isn’t big enough yet, then he needs to work at making the crisis bigger and more destructive to achieve his agenda, which this time is carbon taxes to finance the fascist global government run by the Rothschild Banking Mafia which controls the Bilderberg Group, Trilateral Commission and the Council on Foreign Relations.

  • Nancy

    Do you know what’s funny? If you pay attenetion to the spelling it is DEMs that can’t spell. That tells me they need to go back school and learn NOT ONLY TO READ AND WRITE, but also UNDERSTAND what someone is saying. I’ll make it easy for them. IT’S THE PEOPLE THAT IS TOO LAZY TO GO OUT AND FIND A JOB THAT VOTES FOR THE LIBERAL, THAT PROMISES VOTE FOR ME I’LL GIVE YOU MORE MORE MORE WELFARE AND TAKE IT AWAY FROM THE PEOPLE THAT HAS ALREADY IT (SOCIAL SECURITY).

    • thinking about

      Since you apparently spell so correctly then you should pay attention to your “attenetion” before talking about anyone else learning how to spell.

  • http://PersonalLiberty Global Mamma

    There are many excellent posts here, I only had time to read about half way down the page so forgive me if someone else has already said this please. I am thinking “this is a Liberty site”. We are here because we desire Freedom and Liberty and want to “take our Country back”. I noticed there are many ignorant liberals on this site, I think they can have no other purpose than to distract us from having MEANINGFUL talks on how we can help each other and accomplish what we NEED to in order to stop this liberal train wreck we are on. I quit reading all posts by these time wasters and only read the posts by the intelligent patriots who KNOW the Constitution, the Bill of Rights, our American History, our Founding Fathers and sound Economics. Couldn’t we all just get down to talking about WHAT and HOW we can get things done and stop wasting time on the people who have no loyalty or love of this country or our liberties? ESPECIALLY the looters that want to live off the backs of us who have to work hard for a living and they have no problem with the government STEALING from our paychecks to support the looters.

    I have a question too. HOW IS IT THAT WE HAVE AN UNCONSTITUTIONAL president for THIS LONG? Why is he still allowed to occupy the White House? Is there anything WE THE PEOPLE can do to bring an end to this?

  • Tinkeybelle

    Regarding the Popular Vote and the Electoral Vote: I think the Popular vote should be the only one we have – that represents the will of the voters and is totally ignored and is NOT what puts the President in office. It is the handful of Delegates which comprises the Electoral College that puts the President in Office. In our last election, rightfully by popular vote, McCain should have been President. But with corruption running rampet, I believe that payola under the Electoral Delegates Table is what put this Piece of Corruption in office. He needs to be removed from office, but if Biden,Polsi and Reid aren’t removed first, we will be stuck with the other Clown (Bidden). He is totally unaware that he even lives on Planet Earth!

    The other issue we have that I don’t understand is the Supreme Court Justices. How was it determined that they should be appointed by the President, voted on by Congress (better vote as the Prez says to!) and to be in for life? Why do they not have term limits? I think that should be changed and I think it should be on a ballot for the voters to vote on. This corrupted President will only appoint someone who can be coerced into doing what the President says do whether it is right or wrong – Anyone have any answers?!!

  • Chaz Wyman

    I’m not sure why anyone would be surprised by this. The red areas are the areas owned by the landed gentry – the land owning aristocracy. Whilst the blue areas represent those that work.

    However saying that 45% of people pay no taxes might be a bit of misdirection – does that include Bill Gates and other members of the ruling class; retired millionarries and ex-pats??
    The text asks ‘where so these people live’ but does not answer the question – because it does not have the answer.
    Does it also include children who are not in work yet, stay at home mothers whose contribution to the country is beyond compare.

    This article is nonsense.

  • http://donthaveone Beberoni

    Just goes to prove how stupid people are in these big liberal cities, where they equate wisdom with how high you climb up the company ladder, and then these same liberals own and run the local news and the newspapers, and they use it as propaganda to tell their little lies to make their party look good and the other look bad. You tell me how else this guy, with no record of birth in this country, with no past experience, with no record of anything, with no plan, no course of action, just basically nothing at all to offer, gets elected as President? The power of mass marketing, and thats it, and it is done in big cities, that he why he got the votes from the large population centers, because of mass advertising. Just like Miller Lite. It is the god-awfullest tasting beer on the market, yet it sales big time because the brain sucker in peoples living rooms tell them it is good. It is made by brewing a half vat of beer and filling it up with water, and that is exactly what it tastes like, half a glass of beer filled up with water. Yeech. But marketing tells people its good, so they buy it. Its nasty stuff. Just like what we have running things in this country now. It’s nasty stuff.

  • Bob Wire

    Well, maybe we can get some rabbits and coyotes to cast ballots!

    • thinking about

      Well said, I don’t know of the writer of this article realizes where the greatest population resides. Perhaps an overlay of the population of our nation will also look much like the map he includes with his article. Wonder if he will explain how they look so much alike.

  • stopthemadness

    PLEASE AMERICA BE VIGILANT AND ALERT – DEMAND TO KNOW HOW VOTES ARE COLLECTED IN THE UPCOMING ELECTIONS – THIS BLACK GUY, MR. GREEN, GETTING WEIRDLY AND UNEXPLAINABLY ELECTED AS THE DEMOCRATIC NOMINEE IN SOUTH CAROLINA, …TELL ME THAT WASNT A TEST!? JUST LOOK AT HOW CORRUPT THE ELECTION WAS HANDLED WHEN OBAMA GOT ELECTED! WE BETTER NOT GET TOO COMFORTABLE WITH THE NOTION THAT WE WILL EVER BE ABLE TO VOTE THIS CORRUPTION OUT OF OFFICE BECAUSE THEY ARE CORRUPT THUGS WHO WILL DO WHATEVER IT TAKES TO STAY IN POWER. SO, WHAT MAKES YOU THINK THEY WONT CHEAT LIKE HELL TO KEEP WINNING UPCOMING ELECTIONS!!?

  • http://PersonalLibertyDigest Linda

    GET THOSE LIBTARDS OUT OF THE WHITE HOUSE THE STENCH FROM THEIR BREATH REACHES BALTIMORE THAT WHOLE BUNCH OF JACKASSES NEED TO GET GOING THEY ARE HEADING FOR TROUBLE OF THEIR OWN MAKING

  • http://N/A Dwayne Strange

    Why is there not a commitee,regulate these fact”s that we all KNOW is the truth? WE are AMERICAN’S and not that blind! It angers me to sit here and see this day after day and nobody is doing anything about it !! I learned growing up that if you let people get away with lie’s and doing WRONG!they just kep going! what to do? get PYSICAL, read the constitution it gives us the people control of the GOV. not the other way around! just sheer numbers of people under control walk into the WH and ask the people we dont want there to LEAVE! NICE AND CALM LIKE They do what they want to so why cant we? Exactly! LIKE IT says on the very top of the page “WE THE PEOPLE” (I have more than 1 plan some easy some hard and all without VIOLENCE!~!)

    • http://www.evergreenfarms.org Fred Howard

      Dwayne – I’ve asked this many times and I get no reply, What are the 5 Steps for removing a Sitting President of the USA? I’ve even offered my own 5 Step Plan!! No One Responds. No One!! You voice my sentiments exactly. O.K. Dwayne give me your plan of ACTION. I’m broke which limits me to some extent but I believe if there is a good plan of action, people will get on board the Train and funding will appear. I’m out of gas but will get on board someone elses train if it’s going to Washington to remove MO_Bama from office. The 1774? Boston Tea Party ended up in a Revolution. We’re in the same boat now so maybe it’s time for another Revolution!(Def. – “the forcible overthrow of Government or Social Order in favor of New System”). We thought our system was broke but come to find out we had moved away from the old system which is far better than the one being forced upon us. Act now while we still have a chance. It may start with control of our Military then our Financial institutions. I guess first we find us a leader be it Ron Paul, Mike Huckabee, Newt Gingrich or maybe someone outside the establishment. O.K. Dwayne, you started this so where do we go from here? Fred Howard

  • http://www.marklevinshow.com Zerohour

    Notice how the East Coast spreads from the Liberal North East down I-95 and then across I-20. The liberal locusts relocate and then start to devour the new territory with liberal voting and taxes.

  • Geezer0

    Projecting on to someone else, one’s own inability to conceive of a white person disagreeing with our black president on policy rather than the color of his skin doesn’t make the accused a racist. It does however make it pretty clear that the accuser has a problem with race. Might I go so far as to say that the accuser could reasonably be called a racist.

  • Tanarus

    “The Tea Party is a “Constitutional” movement. That’s why it scares them both. Imagine having their power limited and being held accountable? Takes the fun right out of being a politician doesn’t it?
    ————
    OMG JD. You nailed it right on the head!

  • http://government.laws.com/ government

    Well its good …

  • http://www.tudou.com/ doudoututu

    Getting a logo animation will improve the quality of your videos.

  • HFlashman

    I’ll be doing my best to get people to vote for a canddiate whose party proposes a solution, not just say no. I’ll be urging people to vote for a candidate which doesn’t apologize to Big Oil for having to put $20 bil into an escrow account to pay for the damage wrought and the lives ruined; I’ll be supporting candidates which support policies which don’t wall us in; I’ll vote for a candidate whose party doesn’t give a trillion to banks without conditions; I’ll vote for a party who proposes policies to “fix” healthcare and not just leave the insurance companies to rape us blind; I’ll vote for a party which offers a solution to our oil addiction; I’ll vote for a candidate whose party will equalize the tax burden amongst Americans, and not favor the wealthy at the expense ofthe Middle class; I’ll vote for the party which didn’t race to vote for huge unfunded state mandates, who didn’t vote to nationalize our education system, who didn’t cheer and lie to us as they passed the unpatriotic Act; I’ll vote for the party who doesn’t want to force religion of any kind upon me or my family or insist it be part of government action; and I’ll vote for the candidate whose party understands the first sentence of the second paragraph of the Declaration of Independence … that it is universal, not subjective.

    You realize what party those candidates belong to don’t you?

  • A Patriot

    Did it ever occur to you that the Republicans were ‘just saying NO’ because that is what we want them to do. Also, did you know that the Republicans did submit alternative solutions, but the Dems wouldn’t listent to them, wouldn’t even let them in to the room to discuss it.

  • eddie47d

    The Republicans refused to listen and participate on most issues so the Democrates chose to move forward without them. We didn’t need all that stalmate.

  • http://libertyalert scoobie

    CHOMP ON THAT FOR AWHILE.

  • Airangel

    You Lie! I heard some of the debate and ideas…the Pelosi/Reid panel would not even consider another viewpoint and that is the problem with these incumbents…they no longer support the majority of viewpoints wanted by the people…they are as dishonest as they come!

  • American Citizen

    No, Eddie, you’ve got it backwards. The Republicans are listening to us, the people, it’s the Democrats who aren’t.

  • http://libertyalert scoobie

    MAYBE THE DEMS DIDN’T ALLOW THE REPUBLICANS TO PARTICIPATE, THEY WANTED TO CONTROL IT ALL.

  • Claire

    Airangel–You startled me. I thought Joe Wilson was here! lol

  • Ted Crawford

    Yes Airangel, remember pelosi telling the republicans” We have the majoriety. Get over it” or obama to McCain ” The election is over and I won” ???

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