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The Sad Story of Senator Slander

August 7, 2012 by  

The Sad Story of Senator Slander
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Last Tuesday, Reid took an unsubstantiated shot at Mitt Romney.

There are moments—albeit fleeting—during which I find myself feeling almost badly for Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid. After all, Reid has risen near the pinnacle of Democratic Party politics.

He is, given President Barack Obama’s disastrous reign and House Minority Leader Pelosi’s 2010 implosion, likely the most powerful Democrat in Washington. And yet, we only hear from or about him when he does something uncommonly stupid. Most Americans probably think he’s that crabby old guy who carries Nancy Pelosi’s purse around. It’s no stretch to imagine him sitting in a rocking chair on the steps of the Capitol shouting at passersby to get off his lawn.

However, my sympathies for the Sage of the Silver State are short lived. I don’t despise Reid because of his supercilious simpering. Nor do I abhor him because he whines incessantly about the supposed evils of his political enemies—all the while maintaining a privileged existence based on corruption appalling even by the depressingly low standards of Washington, D.C.

Reid has been linked to disgraced fundraiser Jack Abramoff, participated in nepotism-related scandals which are frowned upon everywhere west of the Kennedy compound, and even pushed for a taxpayer-funded “green” high-speed rail system which would directly financially benefit his cronies and him while providing a “vital” rail link between Las Vegas and that heart of West Coast travel and tourism: Victorville, Calif.

I expect nothing better from Reid. I expect nothing better from virtually every one of the jacklegs and circus barkers who infest the halls of national power. But I would rather appreciate it if Reid stuck to the liberal trifecta: greed, graft and hypocrisy. Instead, Reid has once again stuck his glowering mug into the main event; attacking the tone of the national discourse like a cinematic axe-murderer at a camp for wayward teenagers in small clothing.

Last Tuesday, Reid—no stranger to scandals himself—took an unsubstantiated shot at presumptive Republican Presidential nominee Mitt Romney: “He didn’t pay taxes for 10 years!” Clearly, this represents a continuation of the Obama campaign strategy of demanding a gander at Romney’s tax returns. However, Reid failed to pull the proverbial handbrake in time; stepping past peeking at tax returns and rolling right into falsely accusing Romney of a felony.

Despite touching off a firestorm of deserved criticism from parties as disparate as John Stewart and yours truly, Reid doubled down on his errant tack, repeating the baseless charges on the Senate floor; thereby taking somewhat more run-of-the-mill slander and reading it into the Congressional Record. Reid has defended his defamation by claiming that “The burden should be on (Romney). He’s the one I’ve alleged has not paid any taxes.” As the new gag which will likely define Reid’s career goes: the burden should be on Harry Reid. He’s the one I’ve alleged rode shotgun for the Manson Family.

I have no idea what Mitt Romney’s tax returns look like. I feel confident that they look nothing like mine. He’s an enormously wealthy man with an established record of wise business decisions. Given Reid’s own extraordinary wealth, I suspect his own tax returns also feature some rather impressive arithmetic. And we know that Obama’s tax returns have grown in size in the last few years—he’s now worth an estimated $12 million; despite never holding down a private sector job.

An impressively self-important, hyper-liberal white guy slandered an impressively self-important, somewhat-liberal white guy on behalf of an impressively self-important, hyper-liberal somewhat-white guy. Two of the three are living examples of how shallow the political pool has become of late. The third is a moderate Republican; which makes him just another mealy-mouthed, fence-sitting electoral opportunist. Unfortunately, in the current environment, that also makes him a veritable Winston Churchill when compared to the former pair.

It’s indeed a sad saga which concludes with Americans considering which candidate is the least stomach-churningly awful. I suppose Reid deserves some credit for making the choice easier for a great many people; albeit not in the direction he probably hoped. I’m still not sold on Romney. But I am certain that I want nothing to do with Harry Reid, Barack Obama and the rest of the twisted cabal which has turned the Democratic Party into a rogue’s gallery right out of a b-grade mafia film. Actually, I heard Harry Reid really was in the mafia. The burden is on him to disprove it.

–Ben Crystal

Ben Crystal

is a 1993 graduate of Davidson College and has burned the better part of the last two decades getting over the damage done by modern-day higher education. He now lives in Savannah, Ga., where he has hosted an award-winning radio talk show and been featured as a political analyst for television. Currently a principal at Saltymoss Productions—a media company specializing in concept television and campaign production, speechwriting and media strategy—Ben has written numerous articles on the subjects of municipal authoritarianism, the economic fallacy of sin taxes and analyses of congressional abuses of power.

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  • Harold Olsen

    I do despise Reid. He is perhaps the most hypocritical people in politics. One of the first people I heard criticize Romney about his Mormon religion was Reid. Then, a couple of days later, I read that he, too, was a Mormon.

    • Robert Smith

      What does Romney have to hide?

      It would be so easy to PROVE Reid to be a liar, but there is no proof from the right.

      Rob

      • A DeRosa

        It would be easy to show them and move on but I don’t think the democrats would stop there and Mitt knows it. It would be too easy to show the returns in campaign attack ads that would portray Mitt as being super rich and out of touch with lower and middle class america. The democrats have repeatedly run ads saying Romney outsourced jobs at Bain during the time period he was chairing the olympics. Fact check and the Washington Post have both debunked the ads as being wrong but it hasn’t stopped them from continually being run. The tax returns would be used against Mitt also and who knows how many loopholes and overseas money would be exploited. Most of congress have admitted to over seas money investing but with Mitt it is unpatriotic? If the dems don’t like rich people using the tax code to its limit and not paying what they feel is a fair share, then eliminate the loopholes and change the tax code! I think this is just a distraction from the real issues of high unemployment and the economy issues. As Obama said in 2008, if you don’t have a record to run on, attack your opponent. nuff said. On a side note, obama has spent 3 million dollars to seal his records, even college transcripts. Romney hasn’t spent a dime to seal his. What could be so harmful as to see a college grade from 30 years ago?

      • momo

        Romney doesn’t have to PROVE anything, the burden is on the person making the allegation. It’s time for Reid to put up or shut up.

      • Brad

        Mr. Smith, what do you think you will find that he is a rich man with several hundred legal write offs? This is just another leftist tactics to throw another 30 days of heavy media coverage to get the American tax payers off the subject of Obama’s economy and the loss of 2 million jobs and the creation of so called 130k jobs that pay very little. You liberals will not stop with BS until we take the keys to the half black house away from you. It does not matter that this man is doing everything he can to distroy your country as long as you still have a Democrat in the WH. You people should be ashamed but wont be until he gets another 4 more years to finish off the rest of this great country. Then it will be too late and you will say it was the republican’s fault because they would not let Oblamya do his job in 4 years we had to give him an extra 4 to complete his mission.You are insane.

      • Richard

        Robert, Romney doesn’t have anything to hide… He just doesn’t want to make public his tax returns. If you feel it is so important, why don’t you post yours here first? Harry Reid is the village idiot of wherever he is from in Nevada and is a parasite. Let’s see HIS tax returns…

      • Ted Crawford

        If, Robert, as Harry Reid believes, it’s so very important that a Politician share his tax returns with the people, Why, after 44 years in various public offices, have we YET TO SEE HIS OWN ?

      • APN

        Reid is a shinning example of the foolish mental state our country suffers. Like most progressive fools, he has an emotional mindset of someone 12-13 years aged. This is what happens when you put such foolish people in positions of power. I think WE THE PEOPLE should DEMAND this fool be reprimanded for his childish behavior, and in fact, I think he should be fined for spewing his lies on the floor of the Senate. I think we have some very serious issues in this country to solve, and quickly, and it darn sure will not be solved by this fool and his sister fool NP. Heck, neither of the two could manage a two kid kindergarten much less balance their personal check books.

        Reid can either come forward with his sources with the evidence to back up what he spews out of his silly little mouth or shut his foolish little mouth. I personally have no interest in how much money Romney has made and how much taxes he has paid. Any fool with the brain power of a chimp would have enough reasoning power to understand that if Romney didn’t pay taxes he would be in jail. However, I’m certain that last statement eludes the progressive foolish mindset.

        Time for you DUMB progressives to get busy WORKING and minding your own darn business and leave real world problem solving to WE ADULTS.

        It’s the dope stupid!

      • Winddrinker

        Lets FIRST ask what obama has to hide!

        It has been nearly four years and we can’t even see a college transcript because obama has spent $3 Million Dollars hiding it with his team of lawyers…

        I say the fraud in the White House must show ALL, before demonrats can demand anything from anyone, including Romney.

        We need to see all records, passports, transcripts, selective service record, how many social security numbers he has used, why he lost his law license (not the excuse that he “voluntarily” gave it up), his applications to college and university, his application for the Fulbright Scholarship for Foreign Students, proof of citizenship and application for citizenship..to name a few items that are being held in SECRET!

        The truth be known, we have an Affirmative Action president that never met ANY standards for the Presidency. His lack of achievement never troubled him as all the standards and qualifications were set at the lowest possible level to accommodate this fraud. No wonder he is comfortable with his incompetence. His incompetence gives rise to his idea that “no one does it on their own.” HE SURELY DIDN’T. He was propelled through the system while everyone “covered” for him, even his professors at Harvard.
        His professors covered up his lack of attendance, his lack of attention to any duties as president of Harvard Review, and his abominable grades which set a record of being the lowest ever of any Harvard “graduate” (am not sure that graduate is the proper word to use to describe what obama acquired by pressure on the school.)

        The only talent this fraud can claim is his ability to spew old, warmed-over Marxism that has failed for a hundred years. He is a “RETRO president,” and with his retro-progressive followers, that wants to turn us BACK into a Feudal State…where there is a monarchy and the King owns everything!

      • Kevin

        Hey Robert Smith. I would expect that the IRS has no problems with his tax returns, or they would be all over him. This is all just smoke and mirrors from the left, trying to hide how crappy a job they’ve done over the last three years. Nothing more than that. If I were Romney, I’d tell the lunatic left to show Obamas transcripts from Harvard, then you can see my tax fillings, otherwise shut the hell up!

      • Kevin

        Harry Reid has a gender identity issue, Its a fact! It’s up to him to prove he doesn’t. See how silly this is libtards. Innocent until proven guilty has no meaning to you anymore huh, so prove it you old idiot if it’s true. If not apologize and slink back to that office of yours and climb over that stack of bills the house has passed and do some damn work!
        P.S. I’m boycotting California and Nevada until the idiots in those states fire the morons they keep electing.

      • Stuart Shepherd

        Robert Smith- You seem to approve of Reid’s sleazy political move to get Romney to disclose his taxes to give the Democrats more opportunity to play class-warfare to the populace and find other completely irrelevant (while our country is going down the tubes!) details to dominate the fascist media coverage and distract the public from what a complete corrupt dishonest (among other things for congressmen like Barney Frank and Mikulski) fascist Obama and they are and how they are destroying our country (with the unwitting help of the Republicans). Thank you.

      • MAP

        The whole issue of Romney and his taxes is a desperate charade by Leftist, lying scum (is there any other kind?). The Obamanation’s administration is full of tax cheats. Leftists are pathetic hypocrites.
        http://voices.yahoo.com/obama-administration-tax-cheats-bilk-irs-6763250.html

      • Jon

        I think it would be fair for Romney to post his ten-year tax records in escrow, pending Barak Obama’s doing the same. That would really be fun, since Obama’s social security number is probably not that old.

      • Jeff

        When did Romney stop beating his wife? Wait, that was Ben. But Romney’s reply to Reid’s charge is quite Freudian – put up or shut up. The only one with anything to put up is Von Mittens himself. No one is accusing Romney of a felony. Moral turpitude perhaps, but I’m certain, as is Harry Reid, that Romney can’t be prosecuted for his immorality. He’s hired the best lobbyists to write favorable tax laws and hired the best CPAs to move his money around to shelter his millions in income from closing factories and stealing pension funds. Yeah, he’s a class act alright, but likely not technically a felon. He may also have benefitted from a tax amnesty program. I know Republicans hate amnesty unless it applies to rich pricks who hide their money off shore.

        Who can clear this all up? Harry Reid? I don’t think so. Just one man – Reversible Von Mittens, the Poster Boy for Creative Tax Returns.

      • Vigilant

        ” Most Americans probably think he’s that crabby old guy who carries Nancy Pelosi’s purse around.”

        What a vivid word picture, Mr. Crystal! I was immediately reminded of Arte Johnson and Ruth Buzzi sittiing on the park bench. LOL!

        • Jeff

          You think Ben dreamed up that image WHILE he was beating his wife or after when he was jerking off thinking about beating his wife.

      • Vigilant

        Jeff, your own language, lies and obvious bitterness do your cause no good…please continue with it.

      • Pathfinder

        Hey Rob: There are many eloquent rebuttals before mine, so I will keep it short and to the point. You simply do not understand what Reid, and now Pelosi, are doing in this matter and apparently have you head where the sun doesn’t shine.

      • http://Idon'tknow john vance

        Heck Waserman wants 20+ years of his tax records, it never stops!!!
        to heck with them, two yrs is enough

      • Centurion

        Isn’t that precisely the argument of the “Birthers?” I guess you are now a “Taxer!” Good for the goose, good for the gander. I like the idea of a trade. BHO turns over his birth certificate (a real one), draft records, passport and immigration files, school records, grades, etc. and Romney turns over his taxes. Simple. Then everyone can look at everything and decide for themselves. Of course that wouldn’t serve the political misdirection and deception that is going on to force us to choose the lesser of two evils.

      • marys

        By showing them, he would be admitting a sort of defeat, and then they would move on to some other agenda to distract from the issues of taxes, economy, jobs, deficit, etc.

      • Pilot

        You could spend every minute of every day dealing with false accusations and never have time to get to the important things in life. That’s why we have the concept of innocent until proven guilty. The burden of proof is on the accuser. If you don’t have solid evidence, why should anyone waste their time with your accusations? This false accusation of Reid’s is just another distraction, a disinformation tactic designed to divert people’s attention from more important things. Your suggestion that people should waste time proving a negative just shows you are a typical troll on this website. I only took the time to respond so others can see what you are trying to do. How does failure feel to you? Feel it again in November when your cult leader Obama loses the election.

      • BR549

        Remember one thing; both Romney AND Obama have been invited to to and voluntarily attended the Bilderberg meetings. BOTH have gotten David Rockefeller’s official blessing, so that only means one thing; that the voters will either be thrown over the cliff in November or have their cars forced off the road; either way with these two, the voters will wind up at the bottom of the ravine.

      • VIOLET BOYCE

        WHY SHOULD ROMNEY HAVE TO SHOW ANY MORE, THE LEFT JUST WANTS TO KEEP FROM TALKING ABOUT OBAMA RECORD.I AM ASHAMED TO SAY I HAVE BEEN A DEMOCRAT ALL MY LIFE, BUT WILL BE NO LONGER.I FEEL MOST DEMOCRATS, DON’T SEE OBAMA IS TURNING OUR COUNTRY IN TO A SOCIALIST COUNTRY AND OUR COUNTRY WILL NEVER BE THE SAME.WHERE ARE ALL THE RED BLOODED AMERICANS THAT LOVE OUR COUNTRY.IF YOU ARE ONE OF THE RED BLOODED AMERICANS THEN MAKE SURE OBAMA IS ONE TURM PRES. GOD BLESS THE TRUE AMERICANS.

        • michael

          Amen Violet !! Now your talking !!! While were at it, lets vote Obama,Reid,Pilosi among the other bums out. They are all desperate as well as last gasps to the end their immoral damned souls with a bang no matter the cost of the people they were elected to serve. Before I die in this life I want my country I always knew back !!!!!

      • http://PersonalLibertyNews David

        Yea,well Bob lets see your returns.Don’t want to show them,must be hiding something.Harry Reid is a major piece of … fill in the blanks anyway you want.And Mr. Romney DON’T GIVE THEM ANOTHER PIECE PERIOD,FOCUS THE ECONOMY,THE ECONOMY,THE ECONOMY.Also Bob what is the U-6 # in your state it’s 26.4 here in Low life harry’s state.

      • Pat

        If I were Romney, tell Reid he will show his …if Reid shows..his! In fact, I heard Reid has not paid taxes for 5 years AND he is in with the Vegas mafia. Yup I did! But I can give out my source.

      • figmo

        Why should the right have to prove anything to the left? Finally the’re getting smart and beginning to realize that these demands for production are mere ruses to divert attention from the lack of accomplishment by the most secretive president in history who paid nearly a million to hide his past from us and who won’t produce anything. It’s time for some quid pro quo. For everything Romney produces, obama must produce something the republicans demand.

        • Jeff

          If Romney doesn’t produce tax returns as every Presidential candidate in recent memory has, then the reason for the non-production will continue to dog him. What is in those returns that’s so damaging. I hope he doesn’t produce them, he gets beaten badly in November because of it, and post-election someone leaks the returns.

          • George E

            Jeff,

            You sound to me like someone who thinks he’s got a winning campaign strategy, not like someone seeking the truth. Like I said before, if there was anything wrong with Romney’s tax returns the IRS would be all over him. All you guys want to do is continue beating the drum about how the rich are not paying their fair share of taxes; ie, class warfare, by using Romney as an example. If you don’t like the tax code, go through the legislative process. By the way, Republicans are the only ones that have tried to simplify and make the tax code fairer in recent years. Democrats seem to like it complicated the way it is, except for the tax rates, which they continually try to raise.

          • A DeRosa

            George you are right about Mitt’s returns. Showing them would further give the dems something to pick apart in campaign ads even if all in order. Romney had several years of his tax returns given to John Mc cain in 2008 when he was being vetted for the VP spot.
            I’m not sure why John wouldn’t come forth to dispel Harry Reids claims of them not being filed. It might shut up the lying pedophile once and for all and show americans how dishonest the dems can be. Besides, all the left wing nutjobs keep blaming Romney for using loopholes – there isn’t a person on this or any other thread that would turn down a ccheck from the irs or use all the deductions legally entitled to when filing a tax return.

          • George E

            You’re probably right. I imagine the Romney campaign is using this time to figure out a strategy for making them public, but shutting down any further discussion on this subject or class warfare in general. On the other hand, if they’re skillful and a bit lucky, they might turn this against Obama, but they must be very careful to not let this spin out of control. The Democrats know this, that’s why they’re pushing Romney for a quick response, hoping he makes a mistake that they can jump on. This is all about politics, nothing more.

      • BR549

        MAP stated: “Leftists are pathetic hypocrites.” That may well be true, as they are the yet unrealized fodder being used by socialist/communist thinkers and leaders, who can’t wait to tear down the US Constitution that these Volvo-driving, panty-wetting liberals still believe will keep them safe. These people are as blind as a bat when it comes to researching what is going on around them. They love research, but don’t dare touch anything conflicting with their distorted paradigm.

        At the other extreme are the bone-headed, dyed-in-the-wool conservatives, who still haven’t figured out that their party had been hijacked long ago (like over 100 years) by monopolistic, oligarchic corporatists. These people don’t need to do research because their view of the world is cut in stone and no one can challenge it.

        I liken this situation to the visible spectrum, where at one end people get burned by Microwave radiation, and at the other they get burned by Gamma radiation. At each of these ends of the spectrum, where the parasitic globalists are intentionally hiding, the public doesn’t see them, and any politician who dares operate in the middle visible wavelengths can be seen by all and subjected to potential scrutiny. Romney and Obama share opposite ends of this analogy, yet both cloak themselves in the protection that each of these ends has to offer. Anyone who denounces NAFTA, for instance, while committing themselves to scrutiny by the voters, never gets recognized by the corporate owned media.

        In short, MAP, Leftists are just as much pathetic hypocrites as their conservative brethren are ignorant denialists.

    • art

      There are numerous allegations on the web in regards to Mr. Reids pedophilia. Perhaps he should attend to those allegations before making false allegations about other people…

      • Winddrinker

        Harry Reid is a despicable pice of humanity and HE needs to PROVE that he is not a pedifile! There is nothing this dirtbag won’t do or say to keep the status quo and stay in power. Why is he still a Senator from Nevada, when nobody in Nevada ever votes for him…

        If the IRS had a problem with Romney, they would be all over him with a sledge hammer.
        They would love to find something even slightly questionable.

        • Jeff

          Drinker:

          Put down the bottle and pick up a dictionary.

      • JUKEBOX

        I think that Harry needs to tell us when he and the POTUS stopped doing cocaine and frequenting those gay bath houses. Harry needs to tell us how he got to be worth $7 mil on his meager income from the Senate, and how he can afford to live at the Ritz-Carlton.

    • Wyatt

      it’s not that Harry is hypocritical , its just that he is SENILE !

      • http://madgorilla.wordpress.com madgorilla

        As bad as Reid is, Pelosi is worse. She’s even more dishonest and devious, and that’s hard to achieve.

    • James

      you should be careful how you talk about Senator Harry Reid,because he has gotten some information on your republican hero and now all you know how to do is slander him for the truth.Before you jump the gun why don’t you check for youeself instead of listening to rush and hannity and the wackos on the right!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      • Vigilant

        “…all you know how to do is slander him…”

        Until Reid comes up with some evidence to back his ridiculous claim, I’d say the slander charge belongs squarely in his court.

        BTW, don’t you think the Obama administratoon would have checked with their IRS lackeys if such a charge were true?

        What a useless piece of work you are.

      • http://yahoo,com dale clark

        James you are a fool!

      • http://Idon'tknow john vance

        JAMES you are nuts !! an invester of Bain told Reid that Romeny had not paid ant taxes for ten years ? Just how would an invester know ? he or she would not know !!! use your head for somthing other than a hat ract !!!

      • daniel

        James there is a reason that they call him Dirty Harry here in Nevada. Has he got anything on Romney. The answer is no or he would have sunk Romney during the primaries. It would have made Obama’s job easier to retain. Reid by far is a dirty politician in the way he plays. He has no problem with cronyism at all just check out hte Henderson DA office. I dare you. He has been pushing for the light rail to Victorville Calififornia for years. Google Victorville notice its location and ask why there? Check out the past land dealings this man has had. My guess is that Obama has some goods on Reid and that is one reason Reid plays toady waterboy for the president. If you want to fall for Obama and Axlerod be my guest. You will deserve what you get just don’t count me in.

      • JUKEBOX

        Harry Reid is failing to live up to his oath of office, if he doesn’t turn all of his proof on Romney’s failure to pay taxes over to the IRS immediately. He needs to be forced to by subpeona of his proof.

        • George E

          Jukebox,

          Reid and the Democrats know that Romney hasn’t done anything illegal. What they’re doing is distracting voters away from the ills of the economy which is a negative for Obama, and continuing to beat the class warfare drum by trying to make the case that a few rich people like Romney are getting away with not paying their fair share of taxes. Obama seems consumed with this Marxist theme and apparently wants to make it a corner stone of his campaign. I hope voters are smart enough to see through this and don’t let Obama get away with it.

      • michiganminuteman

        James and Jeff, I think you guys are right. I think Mr. Romney should show as many years of his tax returns as Senator Reid wants to see……..drum roll please…..just as soon as the Commie and Chief makes Eric Holder turn over ALL the e-mails and other documents that are related to the Fast and Furious investigation. As we all know, those records have had the Executive Privilage security blanket thrown over them. Which brings up the question…”what did obama know….and how long has he known it”. You libs are thick, thic as theves!

      • Jeff

        James:

        Von Mittens is no virgin when it comes to the whole fraudulent tax shelter racket. This is why the story has legs.
        http://www.cnn.com/2012/08/08/opinion/canellos-kleinbard-romney-taxes/index.html

        • http://richpublicityservices.wordpress.com richpublicityservices

          If Reid had anything real he would have shared his sources to begin with. Instead, he has demonstrated a high degree of unethical behavior and, all the media sources that backed his behavior have similarly left ethics tattered in their wake. Reid’s plan is to create a sense of doubt about Romney; no one can prove it and no one can disprove it and that’s fine with Reid. And those of you defending him here are as guilty as Reid is.

          • http://madgorilla.wordpress.com madgorilla

            Don’t be too hard on them, Rich, they’re just responding to their programming. You know how Obamabots are…

          • Jeff

            Reid’s comments are a side issue. It is true they focused attention on Romney and his taxes, but the suspicion is already there because Romney is breaking with tradition and everybody knows there’s damaging stuff in those returns. Over 60% of voters want to see more returns and some 70% of independent voters do, If anything, Red’s comments will help Romney to the extent it’s possible to make him a sympthetic figure. But Romney has a past with tax fraud and people know it,

            http://www.cnn.com/2012/08/08/opinion/canellos-kleinbard-romney-taxes/index.html

    • http://chigger-treatment.com Haggard Ryder

      ” I read that he, too, was a Mormon.” That is exactly where he ought to be “was a Mormon”. I think with his antics his membership should be called into question if it has not already. I would think any religious organization would boot any member with the ethics of an alley cat before they would let anyone know they are affiliated with such …

    • http://radiodynamo.wordpress.com radiodynamo

      “I read that he, too, was a Mormon.” That is exactly what he should be “was a Mormon”. Any religious organization would do themselves well to disassociate themselves from such ilk as this disgrace to humanity. Anyone with morals of an alley cat should be called on their standing in any moral society.

  • Warrior

    I think little harry is sharing with us, some of “those same values” that rahm has.

  • http://www.facebook.com/dyatalese David Yatalese

    Nancy Pelosi saw Reid’s double and raised a down by backing his baseless claim. Romney may be a “moderate” conservative but at this point anyone, ANYONE, would be better than letting these far-left criminals run this country.

    • Flashy

      “took an unsubstantiated shot at presumptive Republican Presidential nominee Mitt Romney: “He didn’t pay taxes for 10 years!” Clearly, this represents a continuation of the Obama campaign strategy of demanding a gander at Romney’s tax returns. However, Reid failed to pull the proverbial handbrake in time; stepping past peeking at tax returns and rolling right into falsely accusing Romney of a felony.”

      1. i don’t recall hearing Reid ever accusing Romney of committing a felony. Did Ben just take an unsubstantiated (and provable) false shot at Reid?
      2. All Romney has to do is release a few years of tax returns. He thought McCain should see them before deciding Palin was a better VP candidate, his VP choice will be asked to release years of past returns, any cabinet choice will have to turn over at least the past five years taxes, and as Ben pointed out, President Obama’s returns are released for past years as well as present year.
      3. What is Romney not wanting us to see?

      What Reid has done is masterful. He gave Pres Obama an early XMas present by keeping the debate on tax reform. The GOP tax plan is to increase taxes on the Middle Class and reduce their benefits, and decrease taxes on the wealthy and increase their benefits.

      So all you “patriotic” hotshots…just exactly what would you cut as far as YOUR government benefits? Wipe out road and infrastructure maintenance and repair? Kill ag subsidies to the family farm while increasing those very same given to large corporate farms? Kill rural improvement districts? Wipe out the large number of health care benefits you’re now receiving via ObamaCare (and please, show you have an awareness..what of those bennies would you erase?)

      Under this President, growth in federal spending is the lowest in the past 50 years. The number of public employees has decreased. There has been 30 straight months of job growth in the private sector.

      think about that.

      And think about another fact. There are 47 gadzillionaires financing 60% of the funds spent on behalf of the GOP slate. 47. Y’all think those 47 have your interests in mind and they’re spending hundreds of millions for you?

      • Brad

        Flashy you are a commic and I wish you would give us some releif! Man my sides are hurting from your funny BS> Did you read the other article before this on? Man you use those tactics to a “T”!!!

      • Karen

        @flashy….some name for a die hard liberal……Did they spike your kool aid? Where are you getting your dis information?

      • don

        i despise polititions. i voted for the first time in 1992 i’v been elgible since 1969. i started paying attention when clinton ran against bush. i listened to a lot of radio talk shows, mainly ” for the people ” with chuck harder. i kinda picked up on how politics ran . it was said back then if you voted for bush or clinton you got the same package. nowqeqyw i hqve come to realize who actually picks candidates. i voted for perot. in 96 buchanan ran against dole. we know picked dole. buchanan seemed far more intelligent than dole. to me dole mwas like a dumb hick. nader was in it too and just listening to him impressed me just like buchan did. the hell of it is buchanan would have done this country way more good than dole or clinton. to me clinton came across as slippery.. what we got was what the big bankers adn busness gave us. somehow we need to get them out. we might not have been in the shape we”re in nowif buchanan would have become president. he went against clintons free trade. him and nader both said we needed the manufacturing jobs that were lost to everywhere else to pay the bills of this country and warned what a service economy would do. we are now living with a service economy. look at us now. nader, buchanan or perot would have been far better than what we got stuck with.

      • Paul Wells

        It’s hard to imagine a leftist more deluded than Flashy! Get-A-Clue! If what Harry Reid alleged is true, it would *BE* a felony, genius! Geeez, a fourth grader has more sense than you, and is definitely not a droid for the moronic left as you are!

      • don

        i despise polititions. i voted for the first time in 1992. i’v been elgible since 1969. i started paying attention when clinton ran against bush. i listened to a lot of radio talk shows, mainly ” for the people ” with chuck harder. i kinda picked up on how politics ran . it was said back then if you voted for bush or clinton you got the same package. now i have come to realize who actually picks candidates. i voted for perot. in 96 buchanan ran against dole. we know who picked dole. buchanan seemed far more intelligent than dole. to me dole mwas like a dumb hick. nader was in it too and just listening to him impressed me just like buchan did. the hell of it is buchanan would have done this country way more good than dole or clinton. to me clinton came across as slippery.. what we got was what the big bankers adn business gave us. somehow we need to get them out. we might not have been in the shape we”re in nowif buchanan would have become president. he went against clintons free trade. him and nader both said we needed the manufacturing jobs that were lost to everywhere else to pay the bills of this country and warned what a service economy would do. we are now living with a service economy. look at us now. nader, buchanan or perot would have been far better than what we got stuck with.

      • APN

        Well Ole Flashy, What is it that King Odumbo does not want us to see? Why didn’t you ask that question back in 2008? Let’s see his birth certificate, his school records, etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc

        Heck, you don’t even know who this guy is, where he came from or even if he is eligible to be President but then you have an issue with Romney’s tax returns????

        LMAO!!!!!!

      • Winddrinker

        Flashy is an internet troll and this is the only work he can get! A guy has got to have money to keep himself in drugs…right.

      • Wyatt

        What Flashy doesn’t know about the requirements for candidates would probably fill volumes and probably and entire wing of a Library . Until he is officially nominated as the candidate for the Republican Party , Romney is under no obligation to release anymore of his tax returns then he already has . Harry the Senile and the Botox Queen of California are just creating diversions to take the heat off the idiot in chief . Perhaps Harry and his Hag should release their tax returns and explain their ill gotten wealth . AAnd as for all the hew and cry about a few tax returns and the public should know , well the public should know about the POT head in chief as well . Let him open up his super secret 29 year collage records that he was so quick to have sealed . What does he have to be afraid of , bad grades ? Or perhaps that he attended Occidental and Columbia as an exchange student on the Government dole . And probably Harvard as well . And why is it that fellow students at Columbia inn the same graduating class and same major have no recollection of a Barry Obama or as he was called then Sotoro . Very odd , I recall most all of my class mates from my collage years , especially those in my graduating class and Major .

      • Vigilant

        “He gave Pres Obama an early XMas present by keeping the debate on tax reform.”

        Flush it Flash. It’s got nothing to do with tax reform and everything to do with Democrat dirty tricks.

        Obama won’t be living in the Peoples’ House at Christmas, and Reid’s “present” is tantamount to Clark Griswold’s boss giving him a certificate to the “Jelly of the Month Club.”

        Perhaps it was Obama he was talking about when he made the famous movie quote, “I want to look him straight in the eye and I want to tell him what a cheap, lying, no-good, rotten, four-flushing, low-life, snake-licking, dirt-eating, inbred, overstuffed, ignorant, blood-sucking, dog-kissing, brainless, dickless, hopeless, heartless, fat-ass, bug-eyed, stiff-legged, spotty-lipped, worm-headed sack of monkey [expletive deleted] he is! Hallelujah! Holy [expletive deleted]! Where’s the Tylenol?”

      • phideaux

        Always remember folks Flashy has been proven a lier many times over by many different posters on this site. His credibility is ZERO and he is trying for a negative credibility.

      • daniel

        Flashy put the whipped cream down. Your posting starts of as ludicrous and gets worse. Last I heard not paying taxes was considered a felony. If I am wrong then we can empty some jail cells pretty quickly. After that you went downhill.
        By the way you still in the running for press secretary? I don’t know how much longer this one Pbama has is going to last.

        • Jeff

          The point is not whether Romney followed the letter of some very arcane tax law his lobbyists had a hand in drafting. The point is the fairness of a tax code that permits the wealthy to legally evade taxes. Just because something is legal does not make it right. The voters have a right to know who this guy is and nothing will tell us more than his tax returns. If he continues to withhold them, I hope he is severely punished for it in November.

      • Flashy

        Daniel —> Last I heard not paying taxes was considered a felony

        Well, guess you need to repeat third grade…again. If you don’t have “taxable income” any due to write offs, tax shelters, tax exempt bond holdings, paper losses from partnerships, etc, you don’t pay any taxes.

        No one is accusing Reid of claiming Mitt did anything that was a felony….except the wacked out right who take offense that they should be able to have a lesser being in the WH than we have today.

      • momo

        Flasher, obviously you have a problem with facts. Reid is accusing Mitt of tax evasion, by the way your boy Harry didn’t produce his tax returns the last election.

        Flashy says: Under this President, growth in federal spending is the lowest in the past 50 years.

        Really? The following is the budget as a percentage of GDP
        2008 20.8%
        2009 25.2%
        2010 24.1%
        2011 24.1%
        2012 24.3%

        Look like it went up under Obama to me.

        Flashy says: There has been 30 straight months of job growth in the private sector.

        And 42 straight months of unemployment over 8 percent, probably closer to 11 percent if you count the people that gave up looking for work. Remember that stimulus was supposed to get us under 8 percent, as a matter of fact we’re supposed to be at 6 percent about now.

      • JUKEBOX

        I wonder why Obama doesn’t want anyone to se his academic records. Could it be that he registered at Columbia as a “FOREIGN EXCHANGE STUDENT”, which would prove that he is not a legal American citizen?

      • michiganminuteman

        Flashy…..you freaking idiot. “lowest federal spending in 50 years”? How can one person be so full of missinformation. What planet have you been living on? You must be on the Commie and Chiefs payroll or the most stupid person I have ever had the missfortune of reading. You should give it up, people on this site are adults and can tell the difference between [expletive deleted] and shineola.

        Hey buddy, lets go have a beer.

    • James

      that is why you got “W” you thought you were going to get ahead and end up getting behind now tell me Iam wrong

      • Oneguess

        OK: you are wrong.

    • http://www.facebook.com/delroy.brown.90 Delroy Brown

      There is nothing baseless about Harry’s claim. We have a serial liar trying to occupy the white house but refuse to be be vetted. How do we know who this guy is paying this guy. Is he on the take to a foreign government. I don’t believe nor do I insinuate Romney is. However it is reason like these why we need and have always have the candidate disclose their income tax record. This guy does not believe in america he hides his money in overseas off shore account to avoid paying US taxes. Hell he pays foreign government more than he does here. Mitt have been evading tax revelation since 2002 and never has. Also Mitts own word a blind trust is a ruse to hide money and avoid answering questions. The owner or the Trust still has control and direction if he elects to.

  • http://www.facebook.com/norm1000 Norman Payne

    “. However, Reid failed to pull the proverbial handbrake in time; stepping past peeking at tax returns and rolling right into falsely accusing Romney of a felony.”
    Let me make one thing clear I dislike reid with a passion but what felony did he accuse Romney of? I do not believe not paying any taxes is a crime as long as he filed a properly filled out tax return.{did I miss reid accusing Romney of NOT filing his taxes?} Using our screwed up tax code many wealthy and not so wealthy people legally pay nothing or very little.
    To me hounding reid on this destroys credibility.

    • http://madgorilla.wordpress.com madgorilla

      Reid accused Romney of not filing. That is against the law if you owe taxes. Reid should be intimately familiar with things like that. He’s so crooked and corrupt and mobbed up, I’m surprised he can even stand up straight. He’s just a mean, nasty, envious little old man who can’t keep from sniping at his betters.

      • http://www.facebook.com/norm1000 Norman Payne

        Please show me the quote that says reid says Romney did NOT file his tax return.

      • Patsy

        Wasn’t Reid one of the people who helped get Timothy Geitner appointed secretary of the treasury? We know he was a tax cheat and fraud, but was still appointed.

      • Flashy

        Exactly what did Reid say about not filling? i don’t see it anywhere in Reids comments in the news nor in the CR.

        My feeling is Romney doesn’t want to show he paid no taxes while having millions in income as well as the numerous off shore accts he has to avoid paying taxes.

        it won’t look good as he demands lower rates for the wealthy, increased taxes on the Middle Class..and he’s earning millions paying a lower rate than the hard working American working man (woman). i think it will also show as he rails against ‘government’ assistance, he received millions in tax breaks, subsidies, and credits from those very areas he is railing against giving to the Middle Class…

        He is dust if his numbers don’t turn before the debates.

        • http://madgorilla.wordpress.com madgorilla

          The only way Romney could get away with no taxes is by not filing. His money is controlled by a blind trust that is required by law to file necessary paperwork if they want to stay in business. Therefore, Reid saying he paid no taxes is virtually the same as saying he didn’t file.

          But even if he didn’t pay any tax, so what? If the trust followed all the rules, and complied with the law as written, that’s all that counts. All this crap from Reid and Obama and Pelosi is based on petty hatred and envy. Reid is a fine one to talk anyway. He’s been under a cloud for years concerning the sources of his income.

      • Rick Caston

        Reply to Flashy:

        I dare say that I would have to question Romney’s fitness to be President more IF I found that he did NOT take every legal deduction he was entitled to. I would find that to be a sign of incompetence. Furthermore, if I found that he did not do his best to find places to invest his money that gave him the highest return with the least tax liability I would find that a sign of being incompetent as well and maybe a man that I would not trust with We The People’s money. But since we know that Romney is most likely under attack from the POS Reid because he IS competent and invests his money wisely, minimizing and even eliminating his tax liability, I believe Reid should STFU, get off of We The People’s senate floor, and keep his worthless drivel to himself. And you Flashy, should open your freaking eyes and look around you. If you can’t see the destruction Obama has caused to this country over the past 3 plus years then I suggest you turn off your computer, climb out of your Mother’s basement, get your head out from your rear end, and go outside and look around. The Republic is dying thanks to your Marxist In Chief.

        • Jeff

          If that’s the case, then why not produce the tax returns?

      • Vigilant

        Jeffy, A DeRosa already answered that above at 8:14 am.

        There should an IQ test for posters on this site. That would automatically disqualify Jeffy, who never runs the risk of being accused of having smarts.

      • http://www.facebook.com/delroy.brown.90 Delroy Brown

        Reid is not running for president. Romney is. Give them hell Harry.

        • George E

          Sure, Harry should continue throwing unsubstantiated claims around. Remember, if Harry can do it, anyone can do it as well, and to anyone, maybe to your favorite candidate….

    • JUKEBOX

      Marc Reich proved this , when he bilked the government out of $55 mil in taxes he owed, and Eric Holder pardoned him for it.

  • Bob Freeman

    Third Party hearsay is dangerous in politics, generally used to cause misdirection and is intended to damage a person’s reputation
    My question is why Reid not being Censored on the Senate Floor for his comments.
    They have Censored other politicians for less, or why shouldn’t the Republicans bring forth a Bill that would make members in both the House and Senate responsible for slander, especially on the House and Senate floors?

    • http://AOL Gerald Midkiff

      I believe the Senate is essentially closed because the senators are on 5-week vacation.

    • Flashy

      What did Reid say that is censurable? he has it from a solid source Romney paid no taxes for years, has gadzillions in off shore accounts to avoid taxes, etc.

      As for citing his source? You know the moment he does, the guy is toast. If Romney says Reid is lying…it’s provable Reid is lying. All Romney has to do is release his returns for the past 7 years. And that would not look good on Pres. Obama if Reid is wrong as Romney is claiming.

      Romney is being giving the shot to take down Obama a notch or two. The polls show it’s critical he slow down the Obama momentum. So why isn’t Romney taking this opportunity?

      Think about that.

      • Karen

        Reid is a certifiable nut case….along with those who worship the hallowed ground he walks on….dems are a bunch of big cry babies and thrive on running campaigns that confuse the real issues…..let s keep our eye on the ball….who will best represent the American people? Obama is clearly not the man.

      • APN

        Well said Karen! Flashy is your typical prog that spends the vast amount of his/her very limited brainpower focusing on what other people have. Envy, greed, slander, etc are all these people have anymore.

        I’m certainly focused on the issues and every ADULT I know is certainly focused on the serious issues at hand and have ZERO interest in Romney’s wealth or how much taxes he has paid over the years.

        Reid is a disgrace to the Senate and should be seriously reprimanded for his foolish slanderous comments on the senate floor. I don’t think WE THE PEOPLE should be paying for such foolish behavior, do you?

        Bottom line, Reid acts like a schoolyard little sissy running around the playground spewing gossip. PATHETIC!

        Beam me up!

      • Chester

        Flashy, you know, funny thing is you are right in saying this is easily disprovable, IF it IS disprovable. I hear a lot of people on here griping about Reid, and about you, but not a one of them is asking their well-beloved favorite son to show anything other than more of how much money he has and how little the rest of us deserve. Friends you prove nothing by calling the accuser names for having the juevos to make the accusation other than that you may be afraid he is right.

      • http://madgorilla.wordpress.com madgorilla

        The burden of proof is on REID, not on Romney. Reid made the accusation, so it is up to him to provide the proof. This is a common tactic in debates. Make an accusation against your opponent, and demand that he prove it false. It doesn’t matter what you answer because it makes you look wrong no matter what you say. The best defense is to not reply to such accusations at all. Stay quiet, but start a similar rumor about the other guy from a back channel. Romney could destroy Harry Reid if he wanted to. Reid is too damn stupid to realize that. He thinks the White House has his back, but they’d throw him under a bus in a heartbeat if he suddenly became toxic.

      • Vigilant

        Flashy, your pants must be on fire. Kindly tell us all what imaginary friend is Reid’s “solid” source.

      • APN

        Chester said: Friends you prove nothing by calling the accuser names for having the juevos to make the accusation other than that you may be afraid he is right.

        Chester, we DON’T CARE!!!! Get it!?!

        and who said Silly Sissy Reid had Balls? He’s just a foolish little boy trapped in an old man’s body, that simple. He is best on playing the foolish mindset of progressives, not libertarians or conservatives. We have a sight on the GOAL of cleaning up this progressive mess and you, Flashy, Reid, Pelosi or ODUMBO will not change that fact.

        Time to let we adults get this mess cleaned up and Romney’s tax returns are his business not ours.

        Keep worrying about what someone else has long enough and you my friend will end up with nothing as a direct result of your foolish envy and hatred for your fellow man.

        JUNK! That’s all this is! PROGRESSIVE JUNK and it’s getting REAL old, quickly!

        Now, you got anything of any substance you want to talk about? job creation, FREEDOM from Government, personal liberties, etc etc etc

      • momo

        Flashy says: The polls show it’s critical he slow down the Obama momentum.

        What momentum? The polls show its a dead heat, and Obama is getting his a$$ handed to him when it comes to fundraising, he’s sending out fund raising letters begging for money.

        And remember, as James Carrville so eloquently put it: “It’s the economy stupid.” And it’s Obama’s to defend, he can’t blame Bush this time around.

      • JUKEBOX

        When people like Reid are committing political suicide, don’t take the gun away from them.

    • Jeff

      Slander? Truth is an absolute defense to slander. How to establish whether Reid spoke the truth? Let’s see, there’s got to be a way. With all the brain power on this blog, surely someone can come up with a way. Trial by ordeal, maybe?

      • phideaux

        “Let’s see, there’s got to be a way. With all the brain power on this blog, surely someone can come up with a way.”

        Quite simple little Jeffy boy Reid should produce the evidence or shut up.

      • Jeff

        Fido:

        Come boy. Fetch the answer. If Harry Reid were to give up a name, would that really mean anything? We still wouldn’t know if that person was speaking the truth. The only proof consists of the returns themselves.

        The only reason this story has legs is people are predisposed to seriously consider that Romney, in spite of his millions in income, is the kind of guy who might just avoid paying taxes.

        If Harry Reid had said he heard from someone that Romney has had sex with Rafalca, would anyone take it seriously? NO, because nothing in Romney’s past would indicate any likelihood he would do such a thing.

        • http://richpublicityservices.wordpress.com richpublicityservices

          No, Jeff, the problem isn’t merely that Harry Reid is a lower life form, it’s also that the liberal media hasn’t taken him to task for this – why because the liberal media is more interested in supporting Obama than supporting their own credibility. Frankly, until I hear you unequivocally put at least equal pressure on Obama to come clean with his academic records, you have no more credibility in my eyes than the media.

          • Jeff

            Who cares about Obama’s academic records. He’s 51 years old and has been in public life long enough to be judged by that. Did we see W’s records? How did he get into Yale? Did we see the memo saying “Bonzo is applying and we have to let him in or Poppy will pull the plug?” Did we see how he flunked Freshman English? Or how his history professor passed him despite obvious learning deficiencies, like the paper he wrote about Viet Nam talking about our glorious victory.

            Don’t you think if there were any truth to the scurrilous rumors you guys have been cooking up about Obama being foreign that something would have surfaced by now – in a real newspaper?

        • George E

          Jeff,

          Everyone who pays income tax takes all of the deductions that are allowed under the law. Most people don’t consider this as avoidance of paying taxes. Avoidance is generally considered doing illegal things, and as we’ve already agreed, Romney probably hasn’t done anything illegal or the IRS would be all over him.

      • Jeff

        George:

        The issue is not one of legality. And we’re not talking about normal deductions. How do you amass up to $100,000,000 in an IRA? Doesn’t that mean he made that money and hasn’t paid tax on it?

        Plus, Bain hired lobbyists who wrote the tax laws on carried interest. So, when Romney claims he just follows the law, he’s not so pure. He paid good money to have the law set up to benefit him. And that’s a big issue in this campaign. His tax proposals are designed to benefit him.

        If the majority of people didn’t think that maybe Romney pulls some slick maneuvers in his tax returns, would we even be having this discussion? If Harry Reid said he heard Romney was a drunk and a wife beater, would the story have legs? Of course not because he’s never given us any reason to believe such things about him.

        • George E

          Jeff,

          As I stated in another post, the money in a traditional IRA is not taxed until distributions are taken. There are no rules on how much money you can make in your IRA, only limits on how much you can contribute to it. I don’t know what Romney invested his IRA funds in, but obviously he got an exceptional return, which as far as we’re concerned, was legal. Again, if it wasn’t, you can bet the IRS would be all over him. Romney’s tax returns will not have any detail regarding his IRA fund investments, so if that’s what you want to see, you need to take another path.

          Really, Jeff, you and I know very well this is not about Romney’s tax return. You guys are trying to make a political issue over this to distract voters away from the pitiful economy, isn’t it?

          As far as Obama’s college records are concerned, we care. Maybe you don’t, but we do. Who knows what we might be able to find out if we look very closely that might interest the voters in November? We recently learned he was an acknowledged socialist, and drug user. I wonder if we’ll also find out he was a foreign exchange student here on a foreign visa? Do you think if we find out Obama is not a registered American citizen that this might be of interest to the voters? As I said before, you can demand all of the records you want from Romney, but this road goes both ways, and Obama has been hiding a lot of his past, so taking this path might not be such a good strategy for Obama after all.

          • Jeff

            Of course it’s about his tax returns. He’s claiming he should be president because of his business experience. Yet, he doesn’t want to say anything about anything he did at Bain except that he was successful. We already know that. How did he get successful? What laws were used or bent in that success? His tax returns will shed more light on his character than anything else. So will his failure to release them.

            As for Obama, you guys have been on this birth certificate thing for 4 years and have come up with bupkus. You’ve got Donald Trump with all his resources and he can’t come up with anything concrete. Even Rep. King (of the Birthers) admitted it doesn’t look good for those trying to disqualify Obama. George, you seem like a reasonable fellow. I get that you’re a Republican and we’ll disagree about things. But really, these Birthers are all about demonizing the man. He’s foreign, he’s Muslim, he’s trying to destroy the Country, blah, blah, blah.

          • George E

            Thanks, Jeff. I try to be reasonable. I feel like I’m an American first, then conservative, and finally Republican. I’m more conservative than I am Republican, but since they are the only major party willing to carry that banner, I have to side with them. Life’s not simple, but here it is…………..ha. I’m sure you have some of the same conflicts yourself.

            I think I understand some of your frustrations about conservatives and libertarians. I don’t always think they behave in the most agreeable manner either, but let’s face it, compared to many of the liberals I hear speak, they’re not much worse, if any. When it comes to politics, the room is full of emotions, and that sometimes gets in the way of finding compromises that we can all live with. Frankly, we don’t think Obama compromised much with conservatives, especially in his first 2 years when he had majorities in both houses of Congress. That hasn’t set well with Conservatives, and if Republicans win the Presidency and Congress in November, they may remember that when “compromising” with liberals. As some say, “what goes around, comes around.” At some point, we really need to get back to basics and find ways to get some critical business done that a strong majority of the country can accept. No less important, we must get our priorities figured out, because we’re quickly running out of time and options. I think most conservatives and libertarians think fixing our economy, reducing the federal deficit and debt is the most important and pressing issue before us. If we don’t get this done, we obviously won’t have the resources to address any other issue.

            You seem to wonder why conservatives don’t work with Obama better than they do. Maybe I can shed some light on it for you. We have long suspected Obama did some things to get into the office of President that most people wouldn’t approve of. Our reasoning goes like this. In the past, anyone with his lack of experience, dubious background, and political associations would have never been seriously considered as the nominee of either of the major political parties. We think he might have been nominated by one of the small 3rd parties, like the Socialist Democratic Party, but that’s about as far as he would have gotten. It just doesn’t add up to us, and this leads to many of the allegations you hear, like he’s not a naturalized American citizen, etc. It frustrates us that we have to deal with someone like Obama with his “socialist” (and I’ll add anti-Christian) views and dogged determination to force them on the rest of us, especially at this time in our history when that’s the last thing, in our opinion, that’s going to help this country dig out of the very real problems we have before us. We’re afraid that we’ll wake up one day, possibly years from now, and find out how we got dupped by a liberal marketing machine, only to find out there really wasn’t anything in his suit, or worse yet, he turns out to be a communist plant. I know this sounds crazy to you, but this is pretty close to how many conservatives and libertarians think of Obama. We need this situation to go away, either by Obama meeting us in the middle, which he has shown little interest in doing, or getting someone else in the office.

            I hope this hasn’t offended you, but rather added to your understanding of how we see the world. Thanks.

      • michiganminuteman

        Jeffy,
        I know! Mitt should make a deal with oblama that would require Mitt to reveal 10 years of his tax records if oblama resends his Executive Privlage protecting Eric Holder and his oun arse in regard to the Fast & Furious investigation. What do you think about that Jeffy.

        Hey I think I would like to go have a beer with you too. Flashy said he would drive!

    • http://www.facebook.com/delroy.brown.90 Delroy Brown

      Like they censored Michelle Bachmann for her slanderous comment linking Mrs Weiner to terrorist. How about Mr West contention that 80% of democrat are communists. If we began to censor congressmen for their view the entire republican party would be censored for their slander of the president. You sir is a hypocrite as you have not rebuked
      these people. Harry is doing a patriotic thing it is a shame they aren’t more like him willing to stand up and speak out. I call on to John McCain whom Mitt gave 23 years of returns. Mr McCain took one look at the record and declare Sarah Palin the most qualified candidate. I would rather see Palin than Romney. The guy is a fraud.

      • A DeRosa

        well like all libs you are contradicting yourself harry said he heard mitt hasn’t filed returns and then you say mc cain has all those years of returns when he selected palin which is it?

  • Ried

    Mitt should offer to open up and release the last 20 years of his tax returns if Barry will open up and release 20 years of college and university transcripts.

    • Paul Wells

      Amen, Ried. And what do you suppose the chances of that is, given that ‘Flex’ Obama spent nearly a million dollars to seal all conceivable records of his existence on the planet. Just exactly what does Flex have to hide?

    • http://www.facebook.com/delroy.brown.90 Delroy Brown

      Don’t change the subject Obama has already being vetted, He is president . Everything to be known about him has already being unearthed by the right wing news media.Nobody is asking for Romney’s school record, it is irrelevant. They always look at your taxes to see how you have made your money and to tell whether you have you lied to the IRS. Mr Romney sure acts like he has something to hide. You can’t seek to be commander in chief of the military ready to send peoples kids into war and bomb Iran, while you whine like a girl behind your wife about your fear of what your opponent will say about you if you reveal your taxes. Grow a pair, rumble old man rumble. Your message should be enough if you had one. Get one , put it forward , defend it and your record and america will decide. Don’t try to lie your way to the top by running ADs criticizing and distorting president Obama’s record and word. Talk about Bain your job creation record there you claim qualifies you to be president.Lets talk about out sourcing and bankruptcy. Lets talk about your stewardship as governor, lets talk about Romney care and compare and contrast it with Obama care.

    • JUKEBOX

      That will happen when the Pope becomes a Muslim.

  • Mountain Saint

    Reid is jealous that he won’t be the one to ride the White Horse of Joseph Smith’s prophecy and save our Constitution. A fellow Socialist, Mtt Romney, will do the job and transform America into a Mormon paradise, like in Utah or is it, Cuba.

    • riedjacobsen

      Sorry if my name is a bit confusingly similar to the Senator’s name. Not that I like Mitt, but I would be interested in what is in Obama’s college records that have caused his campaign to spend millions to keep them sealed for all these years.

    • Joey Biden

      I would much prefer a Mormon Paradise over Kenyan Koncentration Kamp.

  • dunce

    A prostitute trades their virtue for money, Reid made a great deal as he has no virtue, he got money for nothing but he has been doing that for years except he delivered an intangible, his vote. How else do you get to be a multi millionaire on a govt. salary?

    • APN

      That is an excellent question that needs to be addressed. Just how did Reid get his Millions? Let’s demand to see his tax returns! I wonder if he has any offshore investments??

      • Vigilant

        …or ever engaged in insider trading.

      • APN

        Yep!

      • JUKEBOX

        It is my understanding that he made his wealth through shady real estate deals in Las Vegas.

    • Flashy

      I would think if Reid’s constituents were demanding..or his opponent in any election released theirs and said ‘match up Sen Reid”, then it would be an issue for him to face. Romney is not running for a local race, his is national. And overall, there’s more than a few who are asking Mitt what’s up? What is he so hesitant about if he has nothing to hide? …

      Until Reid runs for an office which affects me, i haven’t any say in the matter.

      Mitt is running for an office i will vote on.

      • George E

        Flashy,

        You guys take the cake. Throw an unsubstantiated allegation out there and then demand the person accused to prove the allegation is not true. I don’t doubt Romney can prove there’s no problem with his tax returns, but let’s face it, you guys plan to continue throwing other such allegations at him until either one sticks or you “convince” the public that there must be some truth to them, otherwise, why would there be so many allegations, right? Either way, if Romney plays this game, Obama will win. Right now, it’s all deception to fool the public, isn’t it? Well, let me tell you. This game can be played both ways, and probably will if Obama continues down this path, and since it’s been Obama that’s been hiding his records, I wouldn’t think that this would be a good campaign strategy for Obama.

      • michiganminuteman

        What is Eric Holder and oblama hiding under that Executive Privelage order on the Fast and Furious investigation? Humm………….maybe a little blood on their hands? Humm?

    • momo

      Yeah, but your going to enjoy the hooker much more than dealing with Reid and company.

    • Jeff

      Dunce:

      Finally, an appropriate name. Harry Reid was a successful attorney before he ran for Congress. He made money in real estate. Could any of his business dealings be a bit shady? Of course. Could anyone’s? Of course. I know you have no proof or even real suspicion of any such thing because you’re too lazy to even do basic research before posting your nonsense.

  • BARBARA

    With Romney’s wealth, NOT paying taxes( as dirty harry is charging ) on his income would be filing and signing a tax return which is incorrect (cheating). Make no mistake about it harry was saying just that. The only people allowed to get away with cheating on their tax returns are Democrats. harry and the corrupt democrats (obama) just want to get their hands on Romney’s tax returns so they can pick it apart, spread more lies, use it to further slander him, since they have nothing else they can dig up, which is obama’s MO. Dirty lying harry not only SHOULD be hounded for his LIE, but should be run out of town. We are stuck with this slimball for a few more years but we CAN remove him from Majority Leader this November at the voting booth. That is of course if we can prevent THEM from CHEATING AGAIN. Norman, read your tax form at: SIGN HERE, it tells you want the penalty is for signing an incorrect tax return.

    • http://www.facebook.com/norm1000 Norman Payne

      In 2009, six tax filers among the country’s 400 richest tax filers owed absolutely nothing in federal income taxes. [source: http://money.cnn.com/2012/06/07/pf/taxes/rich-who-owe-no-income-tax/index.htm
      Another site you should look at: http://money.cnn.com/2011/05/09/pf/taxes/millionaires_income_tax/index.htm
      In 2009, 1,470 people with incomes over $1 million a year paid absolutely no taxes.
      Barbara my GUESS is reid firmly believes Romney pays a much lower percentage of his income than he wants to admit and he knows the only way Romney can disprove his{reid} accusations is to post his returns and that Romney fears hurts himself politically.
      I personally think the Republicans should have tried to ignore this bait.

      • APN

        Simple solution to all this……Romney did exactly what I would have done….PUT UP OR SHUT UP, Mr. Reid!

        It’s time to get very DIRECT with these little silly slimes that do nothing but divide our fellow Americans in their quest to destroy our personal liberties and freedoms.

    • Brad

      Barbara it also says it is a voluntary report, but once you sign it it is no longer voluntary.

  • http://davestheology.wordpress.com davestheology

    @Bob Freeman, I believe the correct word is “censured,” meaning [according to the Merriam-Webster Collegiate Dictionary, 10th Edition], “to criticize as blameworthy”–not “censored.” Of course it won’t happen with the Dems controlling the Senate. But everyone’s entitled to dream.

  • http://davestheology.wordpress.com davestheology

    “Actually, I heard Harry Reid really was in the mafia. The burden is on him to disprove it.”
    Ben, I don’t think liberals are intelligent or sophisticated enough to comprehend, let alone appreciate, the sarcasm.
    I don’t think Harry Reid is intelligent enough to have been in the Mafia–not even as a mule. He can’t seem to keep his mouth shut.

  • John Frame

    The proof is in the fact that for over 10 years, the IRS has not come after Romney, nor has the “source” turned him in for the sizable IRS “finders fee” nor has Dirty Harry turned any information over to the IRS. The proof is simple, look to the tax collector, he’s not upset!

    • A DeRosa

      If Mitt’s returns were examined by in the 2008 VP vetting, then they had to have been filed. Why isn’t John Mc Cain calling out Reid and stating he saw the returns and they looked okay or at least filed.

      • Flashy

        Excellent point

        • George E

          If there’s anything wrong with Romney’s tax returns, why isn’t the IRS calling him out? The fact that they haven’t tells me there’s nothing wrong. If Reid has evidence that something is wrong with Romney’s tax returns, why doesn’t he call it to the IRS’ attention rather than making unsubstantiated and undignified allegations on the Senate floor? Smells like politics to me.

      • APN

        I agree George, smells like progressive do-do to me.

      • Jeff

        Excellent observation. The Republicans act like Reid is accusing Romney of committing a felony. He is not and that is the whole point. While Romney’s tax returns may follow the law, the larger question is whether such treatment of huge income should be legal. Bear in mind, Romney and Bain’s lobbyists played a huge role in writing the current tax laws with respect to carried interest, so Romney’s protestations “I just follow the law” ring a bit hollow.

        Clearly, John McCain cannot release Romney’s tax returns without the express authority of Romney. However, it seems to me that as a person of great credibility, he could comment on what he’s seen and say yes, Romney has paid at least X in every year. I don’t know if even that disclosure might violate whatever agreement his campaign in 2008 made with Romney, but it is an interesting point.

      • michiganminuteman

        I voted for Mccain in 2008, only because I knew oblama was real trouble and a very dangerous man. Having said that…….MCCAIN IS A JOKE AND A RINO. I do respect him for his military service butt………..

  • tim

    Whorehouse harry, where did you get your’e money. Gee, could it be when you were involved in the gaming commission! Could it be the paper bags from the whorehouses???? Could it be the reason the federal govt owns 85% of nevada’s land, so you can scarf it up at will and make a land deal> Come on harry, where’d you get your’e money. How bout that last real estate deal you pulled off!!! If washington wasn’t so corrupt they would be investigating you harry ried!!!

    • http://www.facebook.com/delroy.brown.90 Delroy Brown

      Tiny Tim , you are pathetic trying to attack dear old Harry a true patriot who serves his country with honor and sounds the warning alarm in regards to a true charlatan and con man trying to hood wink his way to the highest office,

      • momo

        Take your meds Delroy, obviously you’re delusional.

      • JUKEBOX

        Why didn’t Harry blow the whistle on the charlatan that occupies the Presidency today? Answer: that’s where some of Obama’s $4mil went.

      • michiganminuteman

        Delroy ……..is this what you call sarcasm?

  • B rian

    Why would anyone want larger government? Really! Why would people want someone that is elected to represent them….. Rule them! Its so idiotic! Do democrats need a sheep herder?

    Then looking at Reid…… He’s such a drama queen! And somehow he a leader…..! Unsubstantiated drama he’s throwing out there…..

    • http://www.facebook.com/delroy.brown.90 Delroy Brown

      This is one drama queen I love. Give them hell Harry

  • Fiesty

    I don’t understand why no one has mentioned the Senate’s unbalanced budget for the past 4 years!!

    • Ted Crawford

      Perhaps a better discription would be, the NONEXISTANT budgets for four years ! Harry has failed ( in violation to Constitutional mandate) to pass a single budget in four years. In fact he woun’t even allow the four budgets passed by the House to come to the floor for discusion ! In addition he has passed only two appropiations bills ( Defence and Disaster relief), besides all the Continuing resolutions and continuing appropiations ! There are currently 7 appropiations bills gathering dust on his desk, along with hundreds of other bills, 30+ of which are jobs bills, also gathering dust !
      Harry is a complete failure as Senate Majority Leader !

    • http://www.facebook.com/delroy.brown.90 Delroy Brown

      We are talking about Romney tax record. You had all year to talk about the budget and we will address it another time. One thing at a time . Right now we are singularly focused on Romney’s tax return and will be until he release them. Cant stand the wait , the suspense is killing me. I want to see what Romney has been hiding for ten years,

      • michiganminuteman

        Lets see what eric Holder and oblama are hiding under that Executive Privlage order on FAST & FURIOUS!!!!!!!!!! Now that is something important! Anybody agree?

  • BarbaraJ Greives

    Methinks all is not well in obamaland! They are trying every wicked trick in their proverbial book to keep in power so they can get further into your pockets! Romney provided, as required by law, his two (I repeat according to the law) two tax returns. If Reid and Odumbass want to see Romney’s other tax returns, why aren’t they showing theirs as a good faith exchange? With Reid being in the mob’s and Odumbass’ pockets, I wonder if he would have guts enough to show us his and his bank statements for the past ten years while he is at it! What say we all request his info with faxes and letters to our senators! It is a game of “Put up or Shut up!”.

  • DaveO

    Romney should call Reid out on the so called vetting of obama, the lies, the coverup, etc., etc. When obamas records are open then I’ll open my tax returns, till then shut up Harry, your the law breaker.

  • Robert Berger

    You mean only liberal democratcs in Washington are guilty of corruption , and all the republicans are such paragons of virtue,above reproach and squeaky clean ? Don’t make me die laughing ! The republicans are at ;east of guilty of corruption as the democrats ! Possibly even more so .
    And don’t think the repubugnicans in Washington are sexually and morally upright,either. They blather about “traditional values” and “family values”, yet many are serial adulterers, have fathered illegitimate children, frequent call girls and have had sex with underraged teenagers ,male and female.
    And more of a few of those who fulminate against homosexuals and homosexuality are closeted gays themselves., which shows that they just pay cynical lip service to the religious right and conservative voters to gain power,favor and influence .

    • Ted Crawford

      Thank You Comrade ! Your Uncle Saul is very proud of you today!

    • Brad

      Just more BS from the leftist when the have nothing better to say, Prove it RB!!!

      • APN

        Exactly! Just another loose lip liberal who thinks if something “FEELS” right then that makes it right. No substance whatsoever with no facts to back up their statements. Reid is a prime example of progressive stupidity and we wonder why this nation is in the shape it’s in? Beam me up!

        Bottom line, they assume much and understand very little and are totally incapable of any rational logical thinking process much less understanding and stating the truth about something.

  • BFD in BB, DE

    Great wit and wisdom, Ben. Mr. Reid, Obama, Holder, etc. should all be in jail. If I were Romney, I would spend some of my riches to remove Harry’s wealth for slandering the Romney name, as well as discracing his office (further). Romney should get off of the fence and get this country on the RIGHT track. By the way, I heard someone the other day say Harry is an in-bred, cross-dressing, shop-lifting, crack head that would do ANYTHING for a little crumb….it must be true because someone said so……

  • Big Al

    Absolutely hilarious. Well said Ben Crystal. I literally lol.

  • Smitty

    If proof of anything is being requested, let’s see where Obama got his monetary backing to run for president initially. I’ve seen this subject mentioned many times, but no one ever seems to get that answered.

  • R.Marcel Comtois

    Do you think they just want to show how much money he’s made? and then put him down on that account?……..they just want to try and catch him on something….I don’t blame Romney for not wanting to share his returns with the world……it’s not anybody else’s business not even mine………….and as BFD said look at that group in our White House now…….just a bunch of crooks and power hungry people……….

    • Flashy

      “it’s not anybody else’s business not even mine”

      The guy is the GOP nominee for President. It IS our business. As his father stated…the People have a right to know who they are voting for and what they are voiting for. the ‘vetting’ of Romney during the primaries was atrocious. Says a lot about the mentality and intelligence of the GOP primary voter…a lot. Not much as a positive ‘lot” either…

      • Ted Crawford

        I think that you will find that most Americans are far, far less concerned with Romneys financial status than we are with our own and with that of our Nation!
        We’ve experienced the after effects of the current, tax and spend, borrow and spend, spend and spend administration! four straight years of Trillion Dollar plus deficits (Obama was the first President to ever have a Trillion dollar deficit, to prove it wasn’t a fluke he created three more in a row! ! ), 42 straight months of 8+% unemployment, first ever credit rating downgrade, ETC. , ETC.!

      • Brad

        Flashy you are talking out the side of your neck, your N____R in the WH wasn’t vetted at all. Talk about a crook along with all the Dems in office. A bunch of political terrorist!!

      • APN

        Very well said Ted! Flashy must live on Mars and frequents this blog via solar flares.

        He said: the ‘vetting’ of Romney during the primaries was atrocious.

        LMAO! Only a prog would have the audacity to make such a foolish comment. Romney was born here, made his wealth here, legally I might add, is a former Governor, successfully SAVED the Olympics from complete financial disaster and has been running for President for about 6 years now!!!! What is it about this man that you don’t understand or are you just that plain stupid?

        Now, in contrast, the vetting of ODUMBO was in fact atrocious. A large part of the voters in this country voted for someone that they knew NOTHING about other than he was a African-American. I had numerous people tell me they voted for him just because he was black!!! Now, given the aforesaid, who is stupid???

        Heck, we can’t even get a copy of his college transcripts much less a legitimate birth certificate. Who do you think your are kidding Flashy? VET my BUTT, LMAO!

      • Rick Caston

        Frankly Flashy, I am very excited about the prospect of having a VERY SUCCESSFUL and wealthy entrepreneur and businessman running this country verses the virtual unknown, come out of nowhere, “Frank” trained communist we have now. Every move Obama makes is designed to make it harder to succeed in America. And that my friend is by design. Romney believes in the free enterprise system and understands that business is the engine that powers America. Obama has strangled business to death by his massive interference and regulations. And the idiot wonders why no jobs are being created. IT IS BY DESIGN. His plan depends on a massive welfare state and massive government with massive taxes for those that actually work to support it. Personally, once he loses, I would run his a** out of the country.

      • michael

        Hey Flashy, did Obama show his tax records for ten years or anything at all of his “real” existance when he ran for president ? His entire past is shrouded in mystery. Maybe in 50 years when the time capsul is opened according to law then those of us who are still alive will finally know the truth. Well maybe only if it doesnt get covered up before it gets sealed. You should read “The amateur” which is true non-fiction about who Obama really is. Anyway lets stick to the real issues here and dont vote for the wrong man and I certainly know who that is !!!!!

      • michiganminuteman

        It is also our bussiness to know all the bloody little details about Fast & Furious! Hey buddy, when we gonna go have that beer?

  • http://yahoo charles

    Why isnt reid talking about the past 5 and a half yrs from 2007 when they took both houses not submitting a budget and this horrible administration, all of the decisions that were made on green energy, something about 20 billion gone, fast and furious, all the vacations, hiring of the czars, cramming the health bill down our throats ,chicago style.

  • Sirian

    The largest thing about Reid that I have yet been able to understand is this – how and why did the people of Nevada foolishly re-elect him? Even more so, will they be just as foolish next time around?

  • http://www.facebook.com/jpacord John Acord

    Unfortunately for the Republirat Establishment there may well be substance to Reid’s calumny’s in that I expect the NYT or the Washington Post to post Romney’s tax returns sometime in September showing that he paid little or no taxes on a multimillion dollar fortune utilizing tax avoidance strategies available only to the super rich. If Romney is competitive his lead will vanish and if he is not he will not recover. Do not forget Obama’s rise was on the back of slander and defamatory allegations supposedly sealed by court order. The Republirats will nominate in Tampa their least electable candidate and the Chicago based Alinsky-Markist machine will easily crush him and we can all look forward to four more years of Marxist chaos. We have three weeks left to dump Romney and nominate Ron Paul. Its our only hope. Romney’s hopeless ambition will result in our destruction. Of course, this was how it was planned by the elites from the beginning.

    • http://www.facebook.com/norm1000 Norman Payne

      You make a lot of sense unfortunately I am afraid it will not matter. I also do not understand Americans for holding it against Romney for being Smart in Financial affairs, but they seem to prefer financial Idiots like obama the guy continuously spends more than he takes in. We need a President that understands how to balance a checkbook and the importance of doing so.

      • http://www.facebook.com/norm1000 Norman Payne

        I would certainly prefer Ron Paul but everyone knows its a choice between Romney and obama

      • APN

        I agree, we had better candidates but Romney is the ticket and will get my vote. He is head and shoulders more capable to fix this marxist-progressive mess than ODUMBO.

        THAT SIMPLE!!!

        If we can get ODUMBO out, then we may have a chance of getting the country back on the right track. We are focusing our efforts at the grassroots LOCAL levels of Government and once we have replaced all the demorats/socialist thugs and Rinos then we will choose from those left over to send to Washington to hold President Romney’s feet to the fire.

        As in balanced budgets and a MAJOR reduction in the size and scope of Washington DC.
        Constitutional governance is a MUST for this country to survive. It can happen and WILL happen. This November will be the biggest landslide victory in history and will make 2010 look like a cakewalk.

  • Steven

    If dirty harry wants to turn the tables and say that Romney is guilty until proven innocent then lets use the same judgment on him!!! Lets get the rope. NOW!!!!

  • http://www.personalliberty.com Melvin2344

    Actually , I’ve heard that HE is a PEDOPHILE ! He keeps a whole group of little boys secreted away in his year-round W-DC Mansion !

  • bigtomcat

    I have a solution to this thing. People should write a respectful letter to the leadership of the Mormon Church asking the First Presidency of that faith how Reid continues to get a temple recommend. I am curious about this, as a member of this church, as to how Harry’s Bishop and Stake President can get past the fact that Harry acts contrary to church policy regarding abortion and his support of gay marriage, or it strict policy regarding honest business dealing and honesty in the public forum. This troubles me, and it should trouble every temple worthy Latter-day Saint on the planet. I don’t know what is in either Romney’s nor Reid’s heart, but by their actions they should be judged, and held accountable, and by their fruits ye shall know them. I can find no direct action by Romney that violates the Christian priciples that are central to our faith, but Harry has some ‘splainin’ to do! He is a “Dirty Liar!” This is an old liberal trick. In true liberal parlence…”Look at that little, microscopic spot on my opponent’s suit and. meanwhile, disregard that pigsty I’m standing in!”

  • northbrook

    Reid is not only guilty of hypocrisy but also slander he has not released any of his tax returns.. If I were Romney I would sue Reid for slander.

    • Flashy

      it’s slander only if untrue and known to be untrue when stated. methinks Romney wouldn’t even go there. LOL

      If Romney has nothing to hide, why is he hiding it?

      • A DeRosa

        I personally think he doesn’t have anything to hide but knows the democrats would use his return in their campaign ads to show him being ultra rich and out of touch. He is smart to not fall into their trap. stick to the real issues of the economy and jobs. Most americans could probably give a damn about his money – I know i don’t.

      • Steve

        Flash,

        Want to know the truth about Obomanation?
        Check out dreams of my “Real” father on U-tube. Very enlightening.
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6jrrnkKmUzo

      • Vigilant

        Hey, Flashy, If Obama has nothing to hide, why is he hiding it?

      • Flashy

        Good point vig…and ‘d be right there with you asking for it if it hadn’t been already released. his birth status is settled except for the few loons who keep trying to call the fact of his birthplace into question, he’s released his taxes for years, his college credentials are apparent (one cannot be selected Harvard Law Review Editor without being in law school), Hillary went at him with everything possible and if she didn’t vet him in her campaign investigations…you underestimate the Clintons.

        So … your point is?

        • Jeff

          I think I detected a threat coming from our So Superior friend Vigilant(e). He said Obama won’t be living in The People’s House come Christmas. I know how intelligent he is because he said so and he never lies, so he must know the new President takes office January 20, which in my remedial math class (for anyone with an IQ lower than Vigilant) came after Christmas.

          So, I can only conclude that Vigilant(e) has inside knowledge of some plot against Obama. I hope he comes clean before the Secret Service comes knocking.

      • Vigilant

        Jeffy, you’ve got me dead to rights and therefore I admit my oversight. Let’s say his Christmas dinner will be lame duck.

        I can man up and admit when I’ve made an error. You are the one who will never admit to the error of your communist thinking, nor admit to an intentional lie when caught..

      • Vigilant

        Hey Flush, you wanna talk about deception? How come neither you nor any of your socialist buddies felt it worthy to post a response on Bob Livingston’s article “New Evidence Shows Obama Joined Socialist New Party January 11, 1996?”

        See http://personalliberty.com/2012/07/27/new-evidence-shows-obama-joined-socialist-new-party-january-11-1996/

        My very first comment that day was “What’s most interesting will be to see Flashy’s response (if he dares) after saying that Obama is a conservative moderate.”

        ONLY ONE leftie even commented on that article.

        Whatsa’ matter with you liars? Can’t even come up with a talking point when the bitter truth is divulged?

        C’mon, Flush and Jeffy, let’s hear you try to propagandize yourselves out of this one, if you have any gonads.

      • Vigilant

        “I think I detected a threat coming from our So Superior friend Vigilant(e).”

        Jeffy, the first two words in that statement are an oxymoron. And you, my friend, are just a plain moron. “So Superior?” In intelligence, powers of logic and commitment to out founding priciples, you bet your sweet a$$ I’m superior to you.

        And don’t forget it.

      • Sirian

        Vigilant,
        Uh oh, be careful, you’re gonna send Jeff’s blood pressure shooting sky high!! Good!!! :)

      • Flashy

        ” How come neither you nor any of your socialist buddies felt it worthy to post a response on Bob Livingston’s article “New Evidence Shows Obama Joined Socialist New Party January 11, 1996?” <— Vig

        Probably Vig because it was during the period when I had a plateful of things coming to deadline.

        In short…if you told me the moon was made of cheese, and anything stated by that maniac Kurtz…I'd believe the moon was made of cheese.

      • Vigilant

        My, my, Flashy,isn’t it coincidental that virtually ALL your fellow travellers “had a plateful of things” to do on that day.

        Face it, when presented with DOCUMENTED truth so damning that it CAN NOT be refuted, you resort to the Alinsky tactic of focusing on the messenger in lame attempt to discredit him.

        You communists do not deal in truth, never have and never will.

      • Vigilant

        BTW, Flush, “New Evidence Shows Obama Joined Socialist New Party January 11, 1996?” was not the only PLD article published that day (July 27th). You commented on two other articles that day, “Teen Saves Money To Start Business, City Shuts Him Down” and “The Lie That Should Sink Obama.”

        Speaking of lies, I guess your plate wasn’t all that full on July 27th, was it?

      • michiganminuteman

        If Holder and oblama have nothing to hide they should release ALL the records on Fast & Furious too. What do ya think buddy? Lets you me and Jeffy go have some beers, I’ll even drive, OK?

  • Paul Wells

    Anyone with a clue would recognize dumass Harry Reid’s grandstanding for what it is…a duck and weave. Of course there is no merit to it, but it deflects people’s attention off of what is really important, jobs, economy and the crushing massive debt that Oblamehim continues to saddle us with. Harry Reid is as useless and irrelevant as a candy wrapper, and should be met with stone cold silence when he spreads his malicious lies!

    • Flashy

      Is there no merit?

      how would you know?

      • Oneguess

        Perhaps he “knows” the same way YOU “know” everything, oh flushed one.

      • George E

        Flashy,

        Actually, we don’t, but let’s use some logic here. Don’t you think if there was a hint of a problem, Obama’s IRS would be all over Romney in this election year? I have no doubt of it. Further, can’t we ask the same question about Obama’s records? How would we know? Let’s face it, we know that Obama has actually been hiding most of his past records which he won’t release for some reason, but we don’t really know that about Romney, do we? So why would we have any reason to expect Romney has been hiding a tax problem? Doesn’t make sense to me. This just looks like another attempt by the Obama campaign to distract us from the important issues of the day, and to try to “paint” Romney as a rich, out-of-touch corporate executive type of guy. That’s fine in a campaign year, but to be fair, let’s hold everyone to the same standard. Where did Obama get all of his millions when he hasn’t worked for any business? Is it fair for us to paint Obama as a friend and associate of socials, communists, radicals, and even terrorists since a good case can be made that he is? Let’s get back to how we’re going to fix the economy and create more jobs in this country. That’s the most important issue to most folks right now.

      • Flashy

        George…it would be the height of willful ignorance to think Pres. Obama and the WH do not know exactly what is in Romney’s tax returns. I would think they have copies and gone through them with a fine tooth comb. However, they can’t release the information. So…they know Romney won’t..probably a lot of embarrassing information on the tax return such as paying little to no taxes, government subsidies, credits and handouts taken, a huge IRA etc etc

        Methinks the tax returns will show Romney to be talking hot air as far as what he now says versus what he has done. And Mitt doesn’t want that…it’s a sure loser for his campaign as well as a killer for any argument for giving a special tax bracket for high income folks.

        i think once you get playing in the Big Leagues…there is so much money available, anything can be gotten …it’s a question of how to get it out to the public without a trail where it came from….

        • George E

          Flashy,

          You’re probably right. However, the burden for making a case of illegality on Romney’s part is that of the Obama campaign, not Romney, and this should be done lawfully, not through some back-door rumor mill. My gut tells me there’s nothing illegal in those tax returns, just deductions that Obama thinks may look bad to a lot of non-tax paying folks who don’t understand the system. If this is the case, you can no doubt make the same case against every one of our politicians who are by and large wealthy. This issue smells of distortion and deception to me. If the tax law is a problem, which most of us agree it is, then let’s work on reforming it. Blaming Romney for taking advantage of legal deductions is just wrong.

      • Flashy

        George…i don’t believe anyone has stated Romney has done anything illegal. Oly Romney has stated that was ever suggested ..and he’s trying to look “aggrieved’ and injured so he doesn’t produce his tax returns.

        Of curse his returns will embarrass him….perhaps fatally in having any chance of being elected. Why else will he refuse to release his back taxes. he’s getting a lot of heat by both GOP and the Dems…and yet he still refuses. Again.I think his tax returns will show he took a large amount of government monies, took the tax credits for outsourcing jobs, and has paid a low percentage in taxes. All embarrassing, all he should explain, and all should be considered.

        The longer he waits, the worst people will assume it is

        • George E

          Flashy,

          This is simple. If Romney did anything illegal, the IRS would deal with it. Since neither you nor I think he did actually do anything illegal, then the issue is the tax code, whether it is fair or not. As I recall, it’s been Republicans who have for years been complaining about the tax code and recommending changing it to make it simpler and fairer, not the Democrats. At any rate, if you want to debate the tax code again, take it through the legislative process. If Romney took advantage of legal tax credits and subsidies, then you can bet everyone else in a similar situation did as well, or the IRS would give him a piece of their personal hell.

          You guys continue suggesting Romney is hiding something since he doesn’t want to release multiple years of tax returns for public review. That is possible, but I think it’s pretty remote, as discussed above. Nevertheless, if he does release his tax returns the Democrats will try to make him the poster child and defender of the current tax code. Then we’ll spend the rest of the campaign arguing over rich-versus-poor-fairness rather than the economy and jobs which is really the most important issue of our time. If release of his returns would put this issue to bed, then I’d be all for it, but it won’t. It’ll just be the start of an on-going campaign to malign and attack Romney and the wealthy. This is ridiculous.

  • don

    i wold love to seed reid and pelosi go bye-bye right along with obunhole. we don’t need any of them. seems voters are blind and keep voting the back in. seems reid and pelosi are like obunholes puppets.

  • Karen

    Don t you think obama already knows what Romneys tax returns contain? Come on…..this potus is as devious as they come.

  • sabulaman

    If Romney had evaded his taxes, don’t you think Obama, the dems, and the IRS would have had this exposed by now. What about all of the truly hidden records of the sitting president. What a dog and pony show. If Romney has released what is required by law for a candidate to release, then he is done. I’m sure that Obummer (the most transparent dictator in the history of mankind) has released only what is required by law, if that.

  • Joey Biden

    Harry Reid is a decrepit liberal turd that should have been flushed out out office a long time ago. He is the real poster boy for term limits.

  • sabulaman

    Flash, you said ” don’t you think the people have a right to know who they are voting for?” How well did that work in 2008?

    • Kevin

      and we still don’t know jack about Obama, even after 5 years of campaigning.

      • michiganminuteman

        Kevin, We know all we need to know about oblama. I knew it in 2006.

    • Flashy

      Sabula…I knew exactly who i was voting for in 2008. I voted for a conservative Moderate and that is exactly what he has turned out to be. I can’t help it if you listened to lies and deceit and believed it. Obama ran as a conservative Moderate…he is carrying forth as a conservative Moderate.

      • Jeff

        To Republicans, “moderate” is the new “commie.”

      • George E

        Flashy,

        You may classify Obama as a conservative moderate, but I put him in the far left category with Wilson, FDR, Johnson, and Carter. I put Truman, JFK, and Clinton in a moderate left-of-center category. Obama is just about as far left in his big government approach as any President we’ve ever had. Except for Coolidge, most of the Republicans in the 20th and 21st centuries have been big government Presidents as well, but even then, I’d put most of them in a more moderate category than the moderate Democrat Presidents, Nixon may be the one exception, I think.

      • http://boblivingstonpl.wordpress.com Bob Livingston

        Dear Flashy,

        You write: “I voted for a conservative Moderate and that is exactly what he has turned out to be.” Brandon Smith wrote about you today. http://personalliberty.com/2012/08/07/disinformation-how-it-works/ Dishonest debate tactic: Changing the meaning of words. Obama is neither conservative nor moderate in any sense, and you know it.

        Best wishes,
        Bob

  • Norm

    My gut feeling is that Harry is right.
    Having said that, I find it to be very stupid and unprofessional of him to have made the allegations without proof.
    It reaches to the low levels of the birthers and Obama haters who have made extremist statements about Obama’s religion, education, and motives.
    While Romney should release his tax forms, It is not his obligation to prove his own innocence.
    Harry I hope you have an ace in your hand or you will surely pay the price.

    • RFRider

      Lib turds make those types of allegations all the time and then back off and all is forgiven by the lib turd media, just as this will be. If he had any proof, he would have stated it when he made the comments. As for your statement of hate towards Obama, If you voted for him you should be mad at him or even hate him for the lies he said to you. Hope and Change, then the blame that it was worse than he expected! All he hoped for was to spend more, collect more so he could change this Country into a Godless Communistic with no Rights or liberties (as you now have barely have through his Executive Orders) Country!

    • Mike

      Typical lib thinking norm. Hoping he has an ace in his hand or pay the price. An honorable person would have said nothing unless he had proof. Even if he did, the floor of the Senate is not the place for a personal attack. Slander is a way of life for socialists, so no one is suprised. They do not understand the concept of decency or honor.

  • RFRider

    Reid, biggest liar on the earth besides Obummer. Why should Romney give his taxes, If and that’s a biggy did not report all his earnings Wouldn’t one remotely think the IRS would be so far up his ass trying to get that money, hitting him with penalties and interest. So yes, Reid is lying!

  • 45caliber

    What is to be surprised or upset about? What Reid did is simply standard Demo liberal political tactics.

  • mark

    Romney could end this whole thing by simply releasing his last several years taxes. But you know he never will. Like all the capitalist plutocrats in this country he pays hardly any taxes leaving that burden to working men and women, veterans, retirees, etc. This is America. The America that supercapitialism has made. Get used to living in it. Because the bankers and billionaires rule this nation entirely and they laugh everyday at the useless idiots on sites like this who lick their boots and sing their praises.

    • APN

      What planet you from? Or socialist/communist country?

      I was born right here in America and lived here for over a 1/2 century. I grew up on a farm, got myself educated and then took my first public job after completing school. I have made a very good living in this country for me and my family and ODUMBO didn’t do it for me nor anyone else for that matter. Who paid for the school…….I DID!!!

      In fact, when I was a child, you could see the chickens under the house through the very large cracks in the flooring. Humble beginnings have a way of focusing the mind on hard work and improving one’s life. Something you probably know nothing about and ODUMBO darn sure knows nothing about!! But you sale this FOOL to foolish people who think he has their best interest at heart? How foolish! He’s nothing more that a marxist GOD hating American hating thug, and a DUMB LAZY one at that.

      I spent my time working and minding my own business thus I was successful in fulfilling my goals and obligations to my family, and NO, I don’t do drugs or waste my VERY valuable time on childish foolish behavior. Nor do I consume myself with what others have or don’t have as compared to what I have or don’t have! I’ll leave that evil mental defect to the progressive fools and those even more foolish that follow them.

      Fact is, without people like Romney, I would not have had any opportunity to grow and expand my well earned skill set. Once I gained the necessary experience through HARD WORK then I took those experiences and started my own business without one DIME of “FREE” MONEY from ODUMBO. It’s called working, earning and SAVING and that is something you probably know nothing about!

      Stop complaining about what you don’t have and get up off your lazy BUTT and do something about it. If you think I will do it for you, well, you are sadly mistaken.

      FREEDOM and self-reliance my friend! Try it sometime, you may find it refreshing!

      GOD BLESS THIS GREAT NATION CALLED AMERICA!!! A beacon of HOPE for all those who seek FREEDOM and PROSPERITY!

      • Tim L.

        APN
        After you finish praying at the altar of Romney, maybe you could get up off of your knees long enough to take a good look at what you are worshiping.

      • Oneguess

        It’s ok Tim L, just stay on your knees and continue worshiping “The One”.

      • APN

        Tim said: APN
        After you finish praying at the altar of Romney, maybe you could get up off of your knees long enough to take a good look at what you are worshiping.
        ______________________________________________________________________
        What worship? Or are you on drugs or something? I think what I stated was pretty straight forward, from an adult prospective, that is. I worship GOD not men and GOD is where I get my freedoms, not government, you or Romney.

        Let me break my statement down for you since you seem to have a problem with basic comprehension. All you childish people out there in lala land that think this country owes you something, well, it don’t! FREEDOM is not FREE, in fact nothing in life in FREE and I have a long list of family members who have paid the ultimate sacrifice for OUR FREEDOMS.

        I earned my success and YOU were not part of that success nor was your KING, ODUMBO. The only people that were part of that success was those who had a proven track record of being successful and gave me the opportunity to work for them thus make MONEY for my family. When I had the opportunity to make MORE money with another Romney type individual, well, guess what, I turned in my resignation and started a new job two weeks later. It’s called the FREE MARKET system. i.e.; Competition

        Now, I am the boss and I don’t remember asking anyone how I should run my business affairs unless of course they sit on my BOD.

        Now, what I do worship is the fact that I am FREE by GOD to do whatever the hell I want to concerning MY BUSINESS!

        So my comments to Mark was basically shut up complaining about things you have no control over and get you arse to work, like I did, and every other ADULT person in this country does daily!

      • mark

        “Fact is, without people like Romney, I would not have had any opportunity to grow and expand my well earned skill set.” Keep singing the boss’ praises, APN. Keep polishing his boots. Maybe he’ll throw you and yours a few more crumbs. I’ll hit him right in the jaw and knock him down. And then I’ll stand over him – like a MAN! – not a slave, not a bootlicker! And that’s something you could never be in a million years.

      • APN

        Mark said: Keep singing the boss’ praises, APN. Keep polishing his boots. Maybe he’ll throw you and yours a few more crumbs. I’ll hit him right in the jaw and knock him down. And then I’ll stand over him – like a MAN! – not a slave, not a bootlicker! And that’s something you could never be in a million years.

        HUH!?! You on drugs or something Mark? You want do anything but run your dumb little progressive mouth while licking the boots of your brother/sister thugs or whoever it is that pays you to spew this crap.

        Get a job and grow up!

    • Winddrinker

      Romney should not give the demonrats any more tax returns!

      If demonrats want more returns, let them FIRST turn in ten-years of their own tax returns! And, that is to include the fraud in the oval office that can’t even prove where he was born. (maybe he wasn’t born but conjured up by an evil entity.) Some in congress have never submitted even ONE tax return for scrutiny!

      • mark

        President Obama has already released all his tax records for the last 10 years – including the last three which are all part of the public record as he is a public employee. It is Romney who refuses to release them. What is he hiding? The fact that he pays little or no taxes. We already know that all of his healthy, young sons ducked service in the current wars in Iraq and Afghanistan just as Romney ducked service in Vietnam even as he supported that war and the call-up of poor and working-class kids to die in his place. This guy is a total phony who supported abortion, gun control, gay unions, and universal health care as governor of Massachusetts only to turn around and oppose every single position he held a few years ago just so he could buy the Republican nomination. At least the Republicans could do was put up a real lifelong conservative to run against the president – not this gutless, draft-dodging phony.

        • George E

          Mark,

          Can’t disagree with everything you said. However, as an objective political observer, don’t you have any similar complaints about Obama? Just as a refresher, he didn’t serve in the military either, has sent young men and women off to war, and he’s wealthy and apparently didn’t earn his wealth working in business.

        • michael

          Obama’s supposed past (such a fake lie) is such a joke !! His present (and presence) is a travesty (along with his fake ugly smug defiant smile) to patriotic american society and his short term future must be extinguished lest the once decelved blind still miss the” true light” in order for America to heal the wounds he has expounded on us all along with his loyal traitors. Reid, Pilosi,Holder, many many more in his socialist inner circle will fade somewhat away after then. But like cancer, others like him and them will come back so beware !!!!! Pls when you vote then pls vote non ignorantly and save our country whom many have died for and thus not in vain.I myself have served (navy) and proud to offer my life and guts still til my last will of breath.

          • phil

            amen brother well said all true americans should read your comment and take it to heart and standup and use the one right we all have and that is to let our vote count for something and vote out a marxist bastard and get him out of office before he has a chance to make america another cuba or even worse another russia

  • George E

    Here’s what Wayne Allyn Root thinks about this situation. I think his theory makes a lot of sense. There’s no doubt in my mind that accusing Romney of hidding sensitive information is just a decoy for Obama who has been, and continues hidding his background. http://www.rootforamerica.com/webroot/blog/. The simple solution is for all candidates to make the same disclosures. If Democrats demand something from Romney, Obama should provide the same information, or the demand should be dropped. If this rule was enforced, I have no doubt the Democrats would immediately stop demanding information from Romney because Obama appears to have much more to hide.

    • http://madgorilla.wordpress.com madgorilla

      The answer is even simpler than that. First, compel the IRS to say whether or not Romney (and Reid) have filed returns for the last ten years, and then require them to say whether or not there were any discrepancies in those returns. Just that — no other details. If they are in compliance with current law, end of story.

      Then, pass a law requiring ALL elected federal officials to make tax returns for the previous two years available, from President on down through the ranks. Then, nobody has any axes to grind, or accusations to make.

      • Winddrinker

        madgorilla, the only problem with your suggestion is that demonrats don’t comply with ANY laws other than the ones they have been making to benefit themselves and their buddies.

      • George E

        I agree, but I’d still like to see Obama’s college records, validated birth certificate, and other important documents that are generally made public by Presidential candidates. If Romney is willing to provide these documents, so should Obama.

      • Flashy

        President Obama and VP Biden have made public their returns back to 2000 (that’s 11 years for the mathematically challenged). Romney figures we, the “little people” don’t deserve to know about his taxes and hi support for America (or lack thereof). Could it be he took the tax credits available for outsourcing jobs?

        Why and what doesn’t he want us to know?

        George writes “I agree, but I’d still like to see Obama’s college records, validated birth certificate, and other important documents that are generally made public by Presidential candidates. If Romney is willing to provide these documents, so should Obama.’

        That Pres. Obama went to Harvard is indisputable. To be accepted at Harvard Law one must have a Bachelors, which is also indisputable he attained. His Birth Certificate is released.

        Only the wacked out far out in the boonies lunatics doubt his place of birth, his American citizenship, or that he attended college and law school. .

    • Rick Caston

      Replying to Flashy,

      YOU say that there is proof of where Obama came from, where he went to school etc. Ok, I’ll bite. Show me where I can look at this proof? Show me an actual birth certificate, not one that has been forged as has been proven the case with the one he released. How about his selective service card? His school transcripts? Show me one actual document from Obama’s past that he has provided that answers those questions. The FACT is that you, Flashy, have no proof to show me because Obama has never provided such proof…..EVER. And the birth certificate was proven to be a forgery. You know, a completely false and made up document. Can you show me one actual piece of this man’s history in written form that he has provided that we can look at? Harvard? Columbia U? Grade school? High school? ANYTHING! No, you cannot. Why? Because Obama has spent millions keeping them sealed and out of public scrutiny thats why. So you sir, are doing nothing more than perpetuating a lie. One more question, how does a man who has NEVER really held a job quickly become a millionaire after leaving college?
      Just curious.

      • phil

        get a copy of Dreams from my real father from obamasrealfather.com it will open your eyes and answer all of the questions that you’re asking

  • Steve

    OF course it is BS and Reid a real dip stick. Romney is Mr. clean and they can’t stand that. I see the whole issue as yet another reason to change the TAX CODE to the Fair Tax Proposal (HR 25) and end all the special interest pandering forever. After all, who cares how much money someone makes? Or for that matter how they made it. Except if the activity is illegal. Seems like I remember we have the income tax code to help the untouchables to prosecute illegal prohibition activities that they could not otherwise prove.

  • s c

    Nevada, do you realize how bad your airhead senator makes your state look to the rest of Amerika? At what point do Mormons stand up and criticize one of their own? Either ‘Senator’ Whizbang is too corrupt to indict, or he knows where too many “bodies” are buried.
    Nevadans, do yourself a favor, and when the old yahoo ‘retires,’ tell him to MOVE to another state [perferably in another country].
    And, Nevada, find a way to SOAK that old _____. Do you really think the old ____ isn’t FILTHY R I C H ? Did you send him to Washington to get RICH at YOUR expense?

  • Tim L.

    “Reid has been linked to disgraced fundraiser Jack Abramoff.” Gee Ben, this is telling, but I seem to remember the entire republican party being linked to Jack Abramoff. Sorry, but when you dig up dirt, you never know who you might find.

  • TIME

    POLITICAL THEARTER, and who’s falling for it again.
    Have anyone of you ever stoped to think, hey – this looks like a clear case of; “the POT calling the kettle Black!”
    AKA – Political thearter!

    The question you all need to be asking is { what Bill / ACT is on the table now?}

    Please people stop beating each other up over this worthless rhetoric – of what words fail to portray just how absurd it really is.

    Look – the same people who put the Barry Omen in the CEO seat are the same people who also own lock stock and barrel MITTIE RamBO, who by the way also owned Bush 2, B Clinton, Bush 1, and yes even Ronnie, as well as Carter, Ford, Nixon, Johnson , JFK was owned and when he said NO – look what happened to him.
    Then his brother thought he could take them down, again look what happened to him!

    Look people, if your money supply is owned by a Foreign nation /
    Persons, your – De Facto Gov is beholden to them. Can you get your heads around that? Its not all that hard.
    Please open your bloody eyes.

    Start reading the 41st congress work, there in you will find that its been { WE the 600 tell you the people what you will get.}

    Not; “We the People tell you the leaders what you can do!”

    If you all don’t start getting with the program and place your energy in the right places, well then people this will be your last best hope of breaking the cycle.
    From this point forward its as good as over!

    Thats why the break neck speed to push the last few nails in the coffin of the American Middle class, thats most of you!

    Peace and Love

    • Winddrinker

      @ TIME

      If this country lets “an international group of global elites” own our money, Federal Reserve Bank owners, they own this country!

      Americans must abolish the Federal Reserve and tell the owners that we are taking our country back, we will elect our own presidents, and control our own country, fight the wars WE deem important, and bring back the America of our forefathers…

      The Federal Reserve and its owners are never talked about, by politicians or candidates..WHY? These people control the fate of our country (not really our country but in reality it is their country). John Kennedy was going to abolish the Fed, three weeks after this decision, he was assinated. America and its currency has been held hostage for 100 years. These people print dollars for themselves and send Trillions to their out-of-country accounts. There is no accounting on how badly this country has been robbed!

      And, last but not least, these global elites are the very ones that will arrange for the destruction of our economy and devalue our dollar so that it is worthless, and bring this country to its knees. They are the ones that want to rule the world, no longer from behind the scene, but in the open, with their NWO!

      • TIME

        Dear Winddrinker,

        KUDOS!
        Thank You so much; you get it!

        You just made my day, I can’t thank you enough. Thank God. You my friend have a Bless day!

        Peace and Love My Brother

      • michiganminuteman

        Right on the money!

  • Carolyn

    I have always been turned off by negative politics. This is another slandering political move by the Democratic machine.
    I think to give them 10 more years of tax returns is a losing proposition 1 no matter how you look at it. I think Romney should say NO. No matter what. It would only lead more discussions that would side track the truth about Obama and his horrible destructive Presidency. Tell them to “go to he**” We want Obama gone – not tax returns. Romney didn’t use the word liar. I guess thats up to us..

  • uvuvuv

    reading the dave maraniss book about obama. it’s almost like there are two different people, the pre-politician obama and the current president. he is portrayed as drifting and partying through college, at least in his occidental years (drugs were rampant per messr maraniss), and in high school he was wrapped up with basketball. what comes out was his anxiety that his mother was in one hemisphere while his father was in the other. this made him odd to his friends, even his fellow students who were inner city blacks had their mothers around, if not also by chance their fathers. i am at the point where he is leaving occidental for columbia, because the former school was an isolated enclave with a select student body that wasn’t representative of the real america. he wanted to get out into the real nitty gritty. this doesn’t apply to the topic of harry reid but someone mentioned how obama’s records are sealed from the public, well this book gives some insight into why. he’s like philip nolan, not quite this, not quite that, not black enough, not white enough, caught between two worlds, and left to his own devices by his living repeat living parents. meanwhile romney has had an almost painfully stable background, i am sure his biography would almost take up 2 pages, photos included. i would recommend the maraniss book but it goes into extreme detail for both his maternal and paternal backgrounds, however this information is very enlightening if you can slog through it.

  • Dwight Mann

    I used to live in Victorville Ca. It was the home of Roy Rogers at the time. It is a huge parking lot for peoples driving up from LA, who want to go to Vegas, via a high speed rail.
    Reid is just another corrupt elected leader. Reid should release his records or shut up. . .

  • joelmtz98

    both party leaders…reid and his repug counterpart are the same…one’s first order of business as minority leader was to defeat the president not to work with him and the other is to defeat the repug nominee before he even gets to his convention…. typical washington these days…

  • StevenGarrick

    Anouther bang up job by Ben Crystal!,..VictorVille(LiquorVille),Ha!,knew Sen.Harry Reichstag was/is brain dead!,..A train to No where’sville!,..The old fidiot need’s to be put out to pasture!,..The people of Cali will not accept it,nor the high speed train from LALA land to fruit,nut’s & flake’Ville(san fran freak’ville)!,..Go right ahead,piss off mother nature,and she will awaken the San Andreas Fault with a healthy 8.0 “super quake”or better,..The hill’s of Anaheim will be ocean front property,San Bernardino too will be gone,what’s left of the LA area will be cut off,and you can bet on it,she will not leave San Fran freak’ville alone,.Make her mad?,..and the entire “fault” will feel her wrath!,..

    • Jeff

      You perfectly illustrate Ben’s target audience – the old, the white, the lame, the insane, and the stupid.

      • 45caliber

        Which of these choices do you fit the best, Jeff? It seems you fit enough that I’m not certain.

        • Jeff

          Ask someone else to read your post and see what she thinks.

  • Palin16

    John Kerry has roughly four times the money that Romney has.

    • Jeff

      John Kerry, like John McCain, made his money the old-fashioned way – he married it. Therefore, unless there’s some indication he takes some active role in his wife’s business affairs, her money and income really aren’t relevant. Certainly the fact that he’s wealthy or married to a very wealthy woman is relevant, but Romney is a different story because of the way in which he made his money and continues to hide it, shelter it, and hire lobbyists to write tax laws to continue its special treatment.

      I remember when Nelson Rockefeller was appointed VP by President Ford. Initial reports of his wealth were in the $5million range. Everyone knew that was a joke as he had artwork in his office worth more than that. Eventually, the figure was around $5billion. Even that may have been understated given the value of his influence. But Rockefeller never made any money on his own – it was all inherited wealth and controlled by a Trust. Whatever may have been in his tax returns may not have been very illuminating about him though it might have shed light on how the extremely wealthy live. Most likely it was set up so the interesting stuff was in the Trust return and not in his personal return.

      Romney is the first really wealthy candidate in total control of all his finances. He makes all the decisions about off-shore accounts, shelters, etc. He can’t blame those decisions on some great grandfather. Nothing could tell us more about who Romney is than those tax returns. How much to charity? What charities? Extraordinary lengths to shelter income? Overall flavor of phoniness?

      • APN

        ….and your point is???

        Nobody cares about the fact that you and your kind envy what other people have. Romney earned his wealth legally through the system that was presented to him. If not, he would be in jail. Who the devil are you to question this mans wealth or how he obtained it? In fact, who the devil does Reid think he is? Only a FOOL would make such stupid statements without any supporting evidence.

        Now, how did Harry Reid make his Millions??? Has he ever worked a private sector job?
        Let’s see his tax returns? Does he have any offshore investments? Has he ever participated in any insider trading??

        You see my little simple minded liberal friend, anybody can play this stupid little childish game.

        WE DON’T CARE AT THIS POINT BECAUSE THANKS TO YOU PROGS OUR COUNTRY IS GOING TO HELL IN A HAND BASKET and WE are going to fix it come November, and ODUMBO ain’t part of the solution.

        • Jeff

          Harry Reid was a successful lawyer before entering Congress (Reid & Alverson). My understanding is he made money in real estate. But he’s not running for President.

          The reason Romney’s wealth and his taxes are highly relevant has everything to do with the fact his tax plans will aid him personally. A millionaire advocating a tax system that will cost him more money is under considerably less suspicion than is a politician like Romney. If you want to attack me personally, go right ahead. It won’t change the facts.

      • APN

        Jeff, go back and re-read your comments and see if it makes any sense to you??

        “The reason Romney’s wealth and his taxes are highly relevant has everything to do with the fact his tax plans will aid him personally.”

        1.) How much money does Reid have?

        2.) How much money does ODUMBO have?

        3.) How much money do the Clinton’s have?

        Where did they get their money?????

        So, let me get this straight, if logically possible. If someone has EARNED MILLIONS then we just can’t have them running for the POTUS? Or, maybe you’re saying that unless they STEAL the money from other people, then and only then can they run for the POTUS.

        The fact is, it is slimeball attorneys like Reid that need to be exempt from running for ANY office whatsoever. That my friend is a direct conflict of interest. You do understand how things work in this country, right?

        WHEW!!!!!!!!!!!!

        PS> No attack intended. It is not necessary when dealing with a dumb progressive. You people attack yourselves and are too stupid to realize it.

        1/2 my brain tied behind my back is plenty to get the job done.

        • Jeff

          Virtually everyone in the Senate is wealthy. There are a couple of exceptions, but it’s always been a Millionaire’s Club. That being said, they would all benefit personally from Republican taxing policy. Nonetheless, most of the Democrats realize that the economy as a whole does better when there’s a bit more equity in the system. Notice, I said a bit more equity. The Democrats are hardly socialists, irrespective of some of the comments here.

          Romney has proposed a tax plan that will directly benefit him and those like him. While at Bain, they hired lobbyists to write the tax laws with respect to carried interest, leading Romney to pay much less in taxes. This is why his tax returns are important to tell us something about his policies and how they will benefit him.

      • APN

        Again Jeff, you just don’t get it and never will. The effective unemployment rate in this country is about 20%, so in most adult peoples minds, THIS Socialist BS YOUR marxcist party PRAISES ain’t working, never has never will.

        It only works until you run out of other peoples money….study history…. or better….go take a look at what these socialists pukes have done to Europe.

  • morgan

    senator reid reminds me of spiro agnew.

    the late night talk hosts had a blast portraying agnew as someone trying to talk with a shoe stuck in his mouth.

    Open mouth-insert foot.

  • phil

    if you all would like to get an eye opening on Obamas political up bringing by his real father frank marshall davis a known communist party propagandist check ObamasRealFather.com

  • Scott

    If Romney paid no taxes, and did so legally, then more power to him. His capital was used to rescue companies that could be rescued, like Staples and many other strong national brands which were on the verge of failing. I would rather he use that money to create jobs on a national scale, then pay it to Washington to waste on whatever vote buying scheme they find of current value…Green Energy, increased welfare, food stamps, free cell phones, more freebies for seniors, and Washington insiders’ pay increases or Union payoffs. If anything in Romney’s tax returns was even questionable, let alone fraudulent the IRS would be auditing him publicly and filing charges, because that is how it appears that Obama deals with his opponents. It has been said that news organizations have been threatened by the FCC if they cover eligibility issues. The facts are, that every election Obama has been involved in used this same tactic. Make accusations based on innuendo over sealed documents until they are released, then nit pick them for any detail that can be scandalized to ruin the opponent. He did so with Jack Ryan, using formerly sealed divorce records. He did the same with fellow Democrat, Blair Hull, in the primary. If you throw enough unsubstantiated rumors out there, and leak enough possibly false information, something is bound to stick. Then the real information must be released and Obama’s attack dogs, AKA David Axelrod et al, can sift through it to manipulate information to make it appear scandalous. Romney is right in refusing to play that game. The accused does not have to prove accusations false, the accusers have to prove them true, which they are apparently entirely unable to do. Romney should make one statement and then leave the issue alone…”Mr. President, when you unseal all of your records from College, then I will release a few more years of tax returns.” Since Obama will never allow that to happen, case closed.
    Mr. Obama, if you can’t run on your own record, without having your surrogates make baseless accusations against opponents, and feel confident of winning, then you really shouldn’t be running for a second term.

    • Jeff

      What are you looking for? You think maybe Obama got a “C” in chemistry as a freshman? Is that somehow relevant or in any way comparable to the manner in which Romney has sheltered and hidden his income over the years? Get real.

      • Scott

        What I am looking for is very relevant and very likely what Obama is hiding by sealing his education records. That he received grant money/scholarship money for school as a foreign student. This is not because of his birthplace, it is due to his adoption by Lolo Soetoro, which made him an Indonesian Citizen. This would also show that he saw himself as a foreign student, not an American, and used that to get money that he was not entitled to as an American Citizen. So yes, it affects his very eligibility for the Office of the President, as he would have to be a re-naturalized Citizen, not a Natural Born Citizen, as the Constitution requires. Otherwise, can you explain a rational reason for him to spend Millions to avoid releasing what you deem to be innocuous records Jeff? I can’t.

    • michiganminuteman

      and remove the Executive Privlage on FAST & FURIOUS!!!!!!! We can’t let that go. Holder and oblama have blood on their hands! We must demand to know the truth!

  • Mike

    “I heard Harry Reid really was in the mafia. The burden is on him to disprove it.” He must get around because I heard on the radio that he was a pedophile. I don’t have any proof but… He will have to prove otherwise.

    • Jeff

      You are wrong. He might have to respond if you were somebody instead of a smart-aleck little nobody typing in the dark in Mom’s basement.

  • Thomas

    Once again you miss the point. Attacking Dirty Harry for sticking his nose into a disclosure debate is a fools errand. Why will Rmoney not open his tax returns for review??? Attacking Reid is diversionary tactics plane and simple. Dirty Harry is another issue all together. Rmoney hiding his tax loopholes is another altogether. He has plenty to hide. How can we support this magic under wearing cultist not knowing the truth. Why must we be duped by Republicans and democrats?? Face it, they are two sides of the same coin. Corrupt and criminals all. If you don’t face that truth, then god help you fool. You are doomed to repeat, repeat, repeat!

  • http://www.facebook.com/sandragail.whitewren Sandra Gail White-Wren

    Romney doesn’t have to prove anything. DOESN”T EvERYBODY KNOW if he didn’t pay his taxes the IRS would be on him like white on rice!!! There’s the proof. The IRS isnt up in his grill for back taxes! Case closed on this distraction.
    Now let’s get dirty Harry’s tax returns published!!! Or maybe all the documents on fast & furious from Holder. Or maybe the info on M.O. trip to Spain and the list of “staff” she took with her!
    Come on Democrats lets be “transparent how about it”
    Or maybe BO might actually start campaigning on his record and not about lies on the other guy!!!

    • http://none Claire

      ALL politicians should be transparent. After all, they chose to be in the political arena. If they can’t be “open” about their life/business dealings, then they should get out. Romney doesn’t want to show his tax returns because of all the tax loopholes he took, plus he no doubt took advantage of every “cut” he could get. The tragic thing of it is that the middle calass has always paid the brunt for the rich and the poor. What are all these politicians going to do when there is no more middle class to pay for everything???

      • http://none Claire

        middle class

  • boyscout

    So what’s the point ? Of course Reid knows he’s grand standing a most probable untruth. Yet, If it plants a seed of doubt in some voters’ minds or confirms the held beliefs of other voters, then it was a smart move, not a stupid one; but yes, a dirty as hell move. Duh, that seems to be what national politics is made of today. Pathetic !

    • Jeff

      So Romney should produce the tax returns to prove Harry Reid wrong.

      • http://madgorilla.wordpress.com madgorilla

        It isn’t up to Romney to prove Reid wrong. Reid made the accusation, so it is incumbent on HIM to prove it. Ever hear of “innocent until proven guilty”? We don’t operate on Napoleonic law in this country. Why is that such a hard concept for you guys to figure out?

        • http://richpublicityservices.wordpress.com richpublicityservices

          Some of the comments I’m seeing here suggest that some of you are under the misconception that the constitution still has any relevance. By now, after four years of a president who claims to have taught constitutional law treating the constitution as an impediment to his agenda, isn’t it clear that constitutional law has been relegated to the history books?

          • http://madgorilla.wordpress.com madgorilla

            If Obama really taught Constitutional Law, then I’m the Easter Bunny. Your cynicism aside, they only get away with disregarding the Constitution if we let them. Sooner or later, they’ll go too far, and then somebody will break open a can of Whup-Ass and that will be that.

        • Jeff

          We’re not in a courtroom at all. We’re talking about public perception.

          Let’s say Romney was a pitcher for the Red Sox with a 95 mph fastball. A company approaches him with some new “stuff” to add pop to his fast ball (105 mph). The stuff is legal because the company lobbied major league baseball to not include it on their banned substances list. Romney takes the stuff and wins 45 games. No pitcher has ever had a season anything like it. Has he done anything illegal? NO, but is it something you’d want to know about if discussing the relative merits of pitchers throughout time?

          Romney probably hasn’t done anything illegal because he has hired lobbyists to write tax laws creating the kind of loopholes his accountants take advantage of. How did Romney accumulate $100,000,000 in a tax-deferred IRA account. Does that mean he’s legally evaded taxes on $100,000,000 in taxable income? We don’t know, but I hope the journalists keep digging instead of just getting statements from one side and then the other.

          Now you can just dismiss me as a dirty, no good Socialist, Bolshevik, Democrat, whatever. I don’t care what you think of me. Just think.

          • http://madgorilla.wordpress.com madgorilla

            Put up or shut up, Jeff. Where’s the proof Romney hired lobbyists? This whole episode is a giant red herring, a stinking liberal straw man. Do you understand that Romney doesn’t control his financial interests? A blind trust does that. They make all those decisions and have to comply with federal tax law when they do anything. As far as releasing prior tax returns, he isn’t required to release anything. Far as I’m concerned, its none of your damn business.

            Harry Reid is as corrupt as they come, and the source of his money has been questioned for decades. He is only exceeded in his corruption by Obama. Not even the New York and New Jersey mafia can hold a candle to the corrupt Chicago Machine, and Obama is their spawn. Anybody that votes for him is either dishonest or stupid beyond measure.

      • http://richpublicityservices.wordpress.com richpublicityservices

        No, we’re not in a courtroom. However, even in the public eye, to demand tax returns from Romney while sitting on your own records, such as Obama’s academic records or Reid’s own tax records, is the epitome of hypocrisy. You want to see Romney’s taxes, show as much outrage over the lack of transparency from those who claimed unprecedented transparency where they gave only a selective view, which is no transparency at all.

        • Jeff

          Obama has released his taxes and I don’t particularly care about Reid’s. Nor do I care about some reporter’s who happened to ask Romney about his. This is about candidates for President. It’s not a legal requirement but it is a tradition. If a candidate refuses disclosure, even his supporters must realize he’s hiding something. What he’s hiding may not be illegality (it probably isn’t) but it’s bound to be embarrassing and harmful to his campaign. Otherwise, he’d release the returns.

      • Jeff

        Gorilla:

        Bain hired lobbyists to carve out the “carried interest” tax laws. The prime beneficiary of those efforts has been one Reversible Von Mittens (That’s Romney for those of you in Rio Linda.).

        How do you explain an IRA containing up to $100,000,000 in untaxed money?

        • George E

          Jeff,

          I don’t know the details of Romney’s IRA, but it’s my understanding that none of the money in a traditional IRA is taxed until the owner takes distributions from the IRA. The size of the traditional IRA is irrelevent regarding the issue of taxes. On the other hand, a Roth IRA is taxed when funds are deposited into it, but none of the gains are taxed.

          • Jeff

            But aren’t contributions limited to $5,000 per year? How old is Romney, anyway? Seriously, it means he put stock of companies he clearly had inside knowledge about into his IRA. When the stock exploded, he got all the gains without paying tax. Is this illegal? I don’t know. It probably isn’t. But was this the purpose of tax-deferred IRAs?

          • George E

            Jeff,

            Yes, Romney obviously made a very nice return on his IRA investment. While that isn’t normal for most of us, it isn’t necessarily illegal. If he had insider information that he profited from, then he could have a problem with the SEC. It’s my understanding that SEC regulators look at big gains to see if there is any hanky panky going on, especially as relates to insider information. My guess is, they have already reviewed Romney’s gains, and passed on them since this happened several years ago. Executives in companies often buy and sell their company’s stock, and it is assumed they do know more than the average investor when making these decisions, but it’s not illegal if SEC rules are followed. You may have noticed that many investors buy or sell a company’s stock when any of their top executives buy or sell that stock.

          • Jeff

            The suggestion is not that Romney be prosecuted. But some people might want to think twice before electing him President.

          • George E

            Exactly. It’s all about the perception you guys can paint of him doing something that is at least unethical if not illegal. It’s all about politics. I’m pretty sure Romney is going to release more financial statements, if the public demands them. However, he’s got to find a way to prevent Democrats from making this into a major campaign issue like they want to do…………but you know all of this. It’s only some of the folks reading these responses that don’t, or at least didn’t……….

          • Jeff

            But isn’t that why ALL Presidential Candidates feel compelled to release tax returns? I don’t think anyone expects you’re going to catch a candidate in absolute tax evasion. But super-sophisticated tax avoidance may be seen as too cute by half. Candidates are all about public perception and not about avoiding indictment!

          • Jeff

            George:

            Here’s an article I just found concerning the origins of the Bain success story. Well-documented.

            http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/08/mitt-romney-death-squads-bain_n_1710133.html?utm_source=DailyBrief&utm_campaign=080812&utm_medium

          • http://madgorilla.wordpress.com madgorilla

            The Huffington Post? Are you kidding me? If that rag gets anything right, it is strictly by accident.

      • Jeff
      • Jeff

        Gorilla:

        Here’s how intelligent humans do it. You read the article. Then you do some independent research into the people named. Maybe read some articles on the topic in other publications. The Gorilla Way? Beat your chest and say it’s a lie. Your choice.

    • Rick Caston

      To Madgorilla,

      Don’t you think enough has happened already that a can of Whup-Ass is already justified. We The People need to have a massive turnout to insure that that Whup-Ass is felt in a big way this Nov. Obama has shown his true colors this year in his desperation moves completely trampling The Constitution. What concerns me is the complete lack of effort on Congress’s part to stop him. If THEY won’t do it, WE must do it. November can’t come fast enough. The tree of liberty desperately needs to be refreshed.

      • michiganminuteman

        “with the blood of tyrants and patriots” to comeplete that quote.

  • mad as hell

    why don’t all of these politicians reveil their tax returns so we can all see how much they are milking the taxpayers and what insider info they have and use.

    • George E

      Mad,

      Transparency is a pretty good disinfectant. I hate to invade personal privacy, but frankly I think many of our politicians are abusing and corrupting their office by doing things like this, so I think it would be a good idea to have some 3rd party audit and oversight. I suppose the GSA is supposed to be doing this, but we’ve seen what they are doing lately to watch for abusive and wasteful government spending.

  • Commiefornia

    I have it on good authority that Reid hasn’t had sex in 10 years…

    • Jeff

      He’s been turning you down for that long? Why don’t you hit on someone else? I hear Newt’s always in the market.

  • old hillbilly

    Reed is spokesperson of government – speaker of the Senate – essentially head of the US Legislature! Remarks by the mouthpiece of government are far beyond that of a citizen!

    Has anyone bothered to read Amendments 4, 5, 6, and 14? Reed has wantonly violated the Constitution, his oath of office, and desecrated the Senate! It’s time for us to stop whining, cowering, and speaking babble! Impeach the bastard! DEMAND the House hold him accountable NOW – then prosecute him when the progressives are sent home in 2013!

    GET FOCUSED & START DEMANDING A PURGE OF CORRUPTION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • s mart pants

    Given Harry’s slim margin of victory in his reelection , Reid needs to shut his piehole .

    • michiganminuteman

      Yeah, but I still want to go out and “have a few beers with Flashy and Jeffy. I told them I would be glad to use my gas and even be the designated driver. Maybe someday soon guys?

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  • The Professor

    Another brillant editorial by Ben Crystal. Just love your satire.

    • Jeff

      Professor:

      Is it satire when he beats up his wife? Not only is he wrong because his trifecta is far more prevalent among conservatives; he missed the Republican Holy Trinity: tax cuts, deregulation, and pre-emptive war.

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