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The Revenge Of The HillBillies?

September 20, 2011 by  

The Revenge Of The HillBillies?

Early in 2009, I started writing about the possibility of the HillBillies — the world’s first and only two-for-the-price-of-one political combo — challenging Barack Obama once it became obvious to a majority of the anesthetized public that the would-be emperor had no clothes.

Don’t get me wrong. BHO has accomplished almost everything I expected of him: universal healthcare; a trillion-dollar stimulus giveaway; debt-ceiling increases that have brought the United States ever-closer to default; business-crushing regulations intended to bring the private sector to its knees; encouraging union thugs to engage in violent uprisings from coast to coast; appointing far-left radicals to important positions in the White House; sending a thumbs up to the Muslim Brotherhood, Hamas and the PLO, while constantly chastising Israel. There’s no need to go on, as your own list is probably longer than mine.

But now Chairman Obama is in danger of stumbling before he can carry the ball across the left goal line and declare victory over America. Witness the humiliating Democratic defeats in Nevada and New York City’s District 9. The Solyndra scandal is threatening to spin out of control. Obama refuses to utter a word about Jimmy Hoffa’s introducing him at a union event in Detroit by saying, “Let’s take these (Tea Party) sons of bitches out and give America back to an America where we belong.” The list goes on. The next thing you know, the world may even find out that Laura Ingraham was right about the White House garden being just another example of Obama razzle-dazzle.

As James Carville said in his recent warning to Democrats, “It’s time to panic.” And that, I think, is where Obama’s weakness lies. When panic sets in, he comes across as a frustrated, tantrum-throwing child; and each time he does, it awakens another batch of “independents” from their “yes we can” coma. To put it mildly, it’s childish to go on tour and shout “Pass this bill” to audiences of college kids, but when you yell it out more than 100 times in a week, it’s beyond childish; it’s pathetic.

Enter the HillBillies — and, yes, when you buy one, you do get the other one for free. It’s getting late in the campaign game and, granted, it’s a tough decision for them to make, but they have to do it relatively soon if they really want to have the opportunity to finish trashing the White House (i.e., when they move out for the second time).

If Hillary announces, it will be one of the biggest bombshells in modern political history. It will also tear the Democratic Party apart. Nevertheless, I believe she would beat the current White House Grand Mufti rather handily.

Why? Because there are enough rational Democrats out there who know that not only is their party going to lose the White House in 2012, they also are in danger of losing their own seats. That creates a strong motivation to distance themselves from Obama and fall in line behind savior Hillary.

Now for the bad news: If Hillary did secure the Democratic nomination, she would probably beat either Rick Perry or Mitt Romney in a landslide. Like Obama in his stealth 2008 campaign, she now has most of the public completely fooled. The majority of Americans no longer see her as a radical 60s hippie who came to 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue focused on implementing her own version of universal healthcare but, rather, as a moderate, well-meaning liberal.

They forget that she’s the sweet little gal who once said, in a campaign speech, that she would take $5 billion from oil companies — that’s right, take it (as in, force) and use it for whatever. And if she can take money that belongs to oil companies, she certainly can take it from you.

The public has already forgotten her abstract progressive rants about “environmental rights,” “I can create shared prosperity,” and “It takes a village.” Hillary would still move to the left if she got into office, but slower and smarter than the current Emergency-in-Chief. She may not have gone to a church for 20 years where the pastor shouted such goodies as “G__ damn America” week in and week out, but she is a dyed-in-the-wool believer in the collective over the individual.

That said, I hasten to add that she is also something else: totally amoral. Hillary and hubby have clearly demonstrated that they will do anything, anytime, anywhere, to anybody if it’s in their best interest.

A lot has happened in the movie-like saga of the HillBillies over the past decade, not the least of which is the discovery of how nice the payoff can be when you succeed in the capitalist system — in fact, more than $100 million worth of nice.

On the road to weaving hippie values into government at the highest levels, the Clintons found that wealth and prestige are not all that hard to get used to. Hobnobbing with the rich and famous among Washington’s elite and on New York’s Upper East Side is something one learns to tolerate, even if he or she starts out as a genuine flower child.

What I’m saying here is that when push comes to shove, Hillary’s ego and materialistic instincts might just win out over her desire to be a model “new American progressive.” After all, that “shared prosperity” schmaltz is really just for the dolts who are looking for more government handouts. I’ve always believed that, behind the flowery phrases, Hillary actually harbors an enormous contempt for the lower echelons of society.

What I’m talking about here is a $3 million wedding for daughter Chelsea, $250,000 speaking fees as far as the eye can see and invitations to royal dinners as a normal way of life. Speaking of $250,000 speeches, you and I may have thought that we’d never live to see it, but the fact is that Hubby Bubby, the first of two world-class bull slingers from Hope, Ark., is now the face of the Democratic Party.

People have short memories. They’ve apparently convinced themselves that his cigar tricks in the Oval Office were nothing more than a collective aberration. Groper Bill is now a revered elderly statesman. Like it or not, he and Hillary have morphed into an elite establishment couple.

All this means that if Hillary does challenge Obama and ends up back in the White House, she might just drop the “taking from the oil companies” blather and posit herself as the great middle-of-the-road state capitalist. Sort of a female version of John McCain or Orrin Hatch.

Sure, the U.S. will still eventually go under, because neither the mathematical realities nor the entitlements that drive them can be overcome by anyone — especially a politician. But if businesses are fooled by Hillary into believing otherwise, the free market is so robust that entrepreneurial activity could postpone the inevitable for another couple of decades.

That’s important, because in a couple of decades the world will look much different than it does today. Depending on how things unfold with the Tea Party, we might even have a civil war that ends with the good guys winning. Or perhaps there will be some other solution — preferably one in which government is relegated to a minor role in society — that we can’t see from our present vantage point.

The Marxist crowd knew from the moment they gained control of both houses of Congress and the White House that they were unlikely to get another opportunity to finish the job if they didn’t move quickly. That’s why the left’s leading nut case, Paul Krugman, recently said, “I’m trying to make this progressive moment in American history a success.”

Ironically, it was none other than James Carville (the guy who now is warning the Dems that it’s time to panic) who predicted after the Democrats won it all in 2008 that the Democratic Party would rule for 40 years. For a long time, I thought he would have to eat his words, but if Hillary challenges Obama for the Democratic nomination, he might just turn out to be a prophet — albeit via a route he probably didn’t think possible.

Having said all this, for those of us who are still intent on resisting a left-wing police state in America, I think we would be wise to be careful what we wish for. Obama can be beaten, but probably not Hillary.

Robert Ringer

Robert Ringer

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  • Roy West

    Robert,
    Please do not refer to these people as Hillbillies. I am a proud product of the mountains of Virginia. I am a hard working, tax paying patriotic American who cares deeply about this country. In future articles, please refer to the Clintons as what they are, “White Trash”. Do not insult the Hillbillies of the country like this.

    • http://donthaveone Beberoni

      I agree sir. I have been to the south in Tennessee and North Carolina many times, always staying in the mountains, and the so called hill billies are the nicest, kindest, most sharing and friendly outgoing people I have ever been around in my whole life. In fact, when I retire, I am planning on moving down there to live with them. They are real Americans. Bill and Hillary are America’s worst nightmare, white trash with money. That is exactly what they are. Simply put, do you know of any other people that left the White House and tried to steal the furniture? Come on now. The proof is in the pudding. They are white trash.

      • Peace Warrior

        They are only nice and kind if you look, talk and act like them; otherwise, do not expect genuinely nice treatment. Been there many times. The Midwest is a totally different story, and the kindness is certainly genuine!

        • Charles bond

          You need to move back to the middleast where you come from.

          • Peace Warrior

            Exactly man. I am glad I do not live there. Been there and done that!

          • denniso

            The rightwing claims to not like ‘elitists’,yet they support fatcats in industry who are nothing but elite. The Clintons worked their way up to the top and people like Ringer call them hill billies …such hypocritical nonsense!!

          • Dan az

            Dennso
            Why is it you always pick the losing team?
            Just a few people Clinton didn’t have to Pardon:

            James McDougal – Clinton’s convicted Whitewater partner: died of an apparent heart attack,
            while in solitary confinement. He was a key witness in Ken Starr’s investigation.

            Mary Mahoney – A former White House intern: was murdered July 1997 at a Starbucks Coffee
            Shop in Georgetown. The murder happened just after she was to go public with her story of sexual harassment in the White House.

            Vince Foster – Former white House counselor, and colleague of Hillary Clinton at Little Rock’s
            Rose Law firm: Died of a gunshot wound to the head, ruled a suicide.

            Ron Brown – Secretary of Commerce and former DNC Chairman: Reported to have died by impact in a plane crash. A pathologist close to the investigation reported that there was a hole in the top of Brown’s skull resembling a gunshot wound. At the time of his death, Brown was being investigated, and spoke publicly of his willingness to cut a deal with prosecutors.

            C. Victor Raiser II & Montgomery Raiser – Major players in the Clinton fund raising
            organization: died in a private plane crash in July 1992.

            Paul Tulley – Democratic National Committee Political Director: found dead in a hotel room in Little Rock, September 1992. Described by Clinton as a “Dear friend and trusted advisor.”

            Ed Willey – Clinton fund raiser: found dead November 1993 deep in the woods in VA of a gunshot wound to the head, ruled a suicide. Ed Willey died on the same day his wife Kathleen Willey claimed Bill Clinton groped her in the oval office in the White House. Ed Willey was involved in several Clinton fund raising events.

            Jerry Parks – Head of Clinton’s gubernatorial security team in Little Rock: Gunned down in his
            car at a deserted intersection outside Little Rock. Park’s son said his father was building a dossier on Clinton. He allegedly threatened to reveal this information. After he died, the files were mysteriously removed from his house.

            James Bunch – Died from a gunshot suicide. It was reported that he had a “Black Book” of
            people which contained names of influential people who visited prostitutes in Texas and
            Arkansas.

            James Wilson – Was found dead in May 1993 from an apparent hanging suicide. He was reported to have ties to Whitewater.

            Kathy Ferguson, ex-wife of Arkansas Trooper Danny Ferguson: found dead in May 1994, in her living room with a gunshot to her head. It was ruled a suicide even though there were several packed suitcases, as if she were going somewhere. Danny Ferguson was a codefendant along with Bill Clinton in the Paula Jones lawsuit.Kathy Ferguson was a possible corroborating witness
            for Paula Jones.

            Bill Shelton – Arkansas State Trooper and fiancee of [above] Kathy Ferguson: Critical of the suicide ruling of his fiancee, he was found dead in June, 1994 of a gunshot wound, also ruled a
            suicide at the grave site of his fiancee.

            Gandy Baugh – Attorney for Clinton’s friend Dan Lassater: died by jumping out a window of a
            tall building January, 1994. His client was a convicted drug distributor.

            Florence Martin – Accountant & sub-contractor for the CIA: was related to the Barry Seal Mena Airport drug smuggling case. He died of three gunshot wounds.

            Suzanne Coleman – Reportedly had an affair with Clinton when he was Arkansas Attorney
            General: Died of a gunshot wound to the back of the head, ruled a suicide. Suzanne pregnant at
            the time of her death.

            Paula Grober – Clinton’s speech interpreter for the deaf from 1978 until her death December 9,
            1992: She died in a car accident.

            Danny Casolaro – Investigative reporter Investigating Mena Airport and Arkansas Development Finance Authority: He slit his wrists, apparently, in the middle of his investigation.

            Paul Wilcher – Attorney investigating corruption at Mena Airport with Casolaro and the 1980
            “October Surprise” : was found dead on a toilet June 22,1993 in his Washington, DC apartment. He had delivered a report to Janet Reno 3 weeks before his death.

            Jon Parnell Walker – Whitewater investigator for Resolution TrustCorp: Jumped to his death from his Arlington, Virginia apartment balcony August 15, 1993. He was investigating the
            Morgan Guarantee scandal.

            Barbara Wise – Commerce Department staffer: Worked closely with Ron Brown and John Huang. Cause of death unknown. Died November 29, 1996. Her bruised, nude body was found locked in her office at the Department of Commerce.

            Charles Meissner – Assistant Secretary of Commerce who gave John Huang special security clearance; he died shortly thereafter in a small plane crash.

            Dr. Stanley Heard – Chairman of the National Chiropractic Health Care Advisory Committee:
            died with his attorney Steve Dickson in a small plane crash. Dr. Heard, in addition to serving on
            Clinton’s advisory council, personally treated Clinton’s mother, stepfather and brother.

            Barry Seal – Drug running pilot out of Mena, Arkansas: His death was no accident.

            Johnny Lawhorn Jr. – Mechanic: found a check made out to Bill Clinton in the trunk of a car
            left at his repair shop. He was found dead after his car had hit a utility pole.

            Stanley Huggins – Investigated Madison Guarantee: His death was a purported suicide and his report was never released.

            Hershell Friday – Attorney and Clinton fund raiser: died March 1, 1994 when his plane
            exploded.

            Kevin Ives & Don Henry – Known as “The boys on the track” case: Reports say the boys may have stumbled upon the Mena, Arkansas airport drug operation. A controversial case, the initial report of death said, due to falling asleep on railroad tracks. Later reports claim the 2 boys had been slain before being placed on the tracks.Many linked to the case died before their testimony could come before a Grand Jury.

            THE FOLLOWING PERSONS HAD INFORMATION ON THE IVES/HENRY CASE:

            Keith Coney – Died when his motorcycle slammed into the back of a truck, 7/88.

            Keith McMaskle – Died – stabbed 113 times, Nov, 1988

            Gregory Collins – Died from a gunshot wound January 1989.

            Jeff Rhodes – He was shot, mutilated and found burned in a trash dump in April 1989.

            James Milan – Found decapitated. However, the Coroner ruled his death was due to “natural
            causes”.

            Jordan Kettleson – Was found shot to death in the front seat of his pickup truck in June, 1990.

            Richard Winters – A suspect in the Ives / Henry deaths. He was killed in a setup robbery July, 1989.

            THE FOLLOWING CLINTON BODYGUARDS ARE DEAD:

            Major William S. Barkley, Jr.
            Captain Scott J. Reynolds
            Sgt. Brian Hanley
            Sgt. Tim Sabel
            Major General William Robertson
            Col. William Densberger
            Col. Robert Kelly
            Spec. Gary Rhodes
            Steve Willis
            Robert Williams
            Conway LeBleu
            Todd McKeehan
            This is quite a list ! Pass it on to let people know.

          • denniso

            God above!! Why would I look any further at your bogus and ridiculous list than the name of Ron Brown? He died in a plane crash,and you believe that his body was found w/ a bullet hole in his head? What a freaking joke! You really believe this crap you post? You are seriously in trouble if the answer is yes.

          • denniso

            Where is your basic judgement?? If the Clintons had the kind of power and ability to escape justice,why the hell didn’t the kill off Lewinsky and avoid all that trouble? Why not kill off Ken Star? How about some of the Repub leadership that brought the impeachment on Bill? You really need to do some independent thinking and quit following this crap on your rightwing hack sites. You are out to lunch and over the edge,both at the same time. Maybe you are already locked up?

        • http://donthaveone Beberoni

          Im sorry but we have to agree to disagree on this one. I come from the northern part of Indiana. I have no accent. Ive lived in the city all my life. Those folks down there have been nothing but hospitable to me, and Ive been down there over 15 times now, all over Appalachia, including some deep back woods folks. It seems folks from the North think of them as dumb because they talk different. It couldnt be further from the truth. And Ive been to New York and Ive lived in California, and those are the coldest, most unfriendly people Ive ever met in my life. Yet when Im down south, I have never once had an unkind word spoken to me, nor have I ever received an unkind look, and having lived in the city all my life, Ive grown to be pretty street smart, and you can tell what a lot of people are thinking by the way they look at you. Isnt Chicago and Detroit in the Midwest? Indianapolis, Cleveland, Columbus? Yeah, Ive been to all of those, and let me tell you, I didnt find folks as a whole to be of the out going and friendly variety there. But I sure did all over the south. So like I said, we will have to agree to disagree on this one. Im not stating my opinion when I say southern folks are friendly, Im relating to true life experiences that Ive lived through. And thats a fact.

      • denniso

        Hillbillies?? White trash??? Bill is a Rhodes scholar,can any of you or Robert Ringer say that? Hillary is a Wellesley College graduate w/ a law degree from Yale University along w/ many ‘first’ accomplishments. Any of the haters above who graduated from Yale? Any of you been a Secretary of State?

        Ringer’s article is so full of lies and misleading statements as to make it essentially worthless and pointless to read,and I don’t usually say that about his articles in total. Jealous? Envious? Full of hate for a former president and first lady? Obviously!

        Do you people and Ringer forget about your beloved Reagan and his wife Nancy? It’s becoming more clear w/ time that she was very involved and controlling in his presidency..so, two for the price of one?

        • hipshotpercusion

          Actually, Hitlery came from Park Ridge, IL, which is a suburb of Chicago.

          • Old Henry

            hipshot:

            Say howdy to Rick O’Shay and Mort Gage fer me.

            And it’s Chi Ka Go.

          • ItsJo

            Your post is correct. Also, Hillary worked for Saul Alinsky who wanted to hire her(he was her mentor, which was the subject of her own
            thesis) but she instead joined the team that was “out to lynch Nixon”.
            The two Clintons are “Power/Money Mongers” who ALSO sold out America in their lust for cash/power. His corruption with his minions goes without saying. When in power, the Clinton’s treated terrorism as a “police matter” when the WTC was bombed the lst time, and bin Laden himself declared “America is a paper tiger”. He/terrorists were emboldened by the Clinton’s weakness, and their making America vulnerable, and thus, we had been attacked under them many times, and the terrorists went for the ‘bigger/better bang on 9/11′. Hillary is ANOTHER “Rules For Radicals” person, although she tries to hide it, she is just the SAME as Obama. The Clinton’s have tried to ‘rewrite their history(even had Sandy Berger steal papers that were incriminating from our Nat’l Archives, that indicated their subjecting
            America to being attacked by Terrorists again. These two ONLY worry about emassing their “personal fortunes”, and to hell with our Republic. She is “OBAMA IN A PANTSUIT”

        • Old Henry

          Rhodes scholar? He never finished. It’s more like a Roads scholar.

          You can put a dress on a pig, and it’s still a pig.

          Remember how they abosolutely trashed the People’s House? They stole property from the People’s House on teir way out. They trashed computers. They left empty pizza boxes laying all around. The walls had to be repainted. The carpets had to be replaced.

          The are indeed White Trash scum.

          Once again, you put a dress, or suit, on a pig and it’s still a pig.

          • Kate8

            Old H – Yep. Cecil Rhodes was someone much admired by Bill. In fact, I read that he was a mentor.

            Rhodes was not a good man. He was just another wealthy financier, an empire-building, diamond dealing colonialist elite who was much hated in Africa, even though he got a country named after him.

            I don’t consider this fact to be a point of admiration. It is simply another glimpse into the workings of Clinton’s mind.

          • Dan az

            Kate
            You gotta listen to this!!!It was posted by hawkeye and this is what we have been hoping for.
            http://www.divinecosmos.com/start-here/davids-blog/975-undergroundbases

          • http://donthaveone Beberoni

            Thank you for the truth Old Henry, something denniso will not accept or ever understand. He stands behind lepers like the Clintons and believes the baloney they spread and do. You are correct, they are white trash with money.

          • denniso

            What baloney exactly are the Clintons spreading? Could you give some specific examples?

          • http://donthaveone Beberoni

            Well for one just to start denniso, just simply google “Contentions – Hillary Clinton’s Falsehoods.” There are many, many more, but start there, since you wanted something “specific” I believe.

          • denniso

            And you expect me to trust all things that come up on the internet? Don’t you know that you can find anything attacking/smearing any Dem or liberal,or even a few Repubs? Why would you trust a site that pretends to have ‘facts’ about someone you hate? Isn’t there a bit of a problem with the truth on sites that make that their business? You know that you can also find sites that contend God is real?

          • http://donthaveone Beberoni

            I want you all to see what kind of people we are dealing with when trying to have an intelligent discussion with a liberal. Now denniso here, asks for specific topics. So then I provide them, factual evidence that he cannot or anyone cannot refute, because it is public knowledge out there for all to see. But he rejects it, then even goes one step further and chooses to attack God, who wasnt even a topic in this conversation. But he couldnt stay focused on his one attack, he needed to add another, to draw away from the fact that he, or she, was caught with their pants down and their foot in their mouth. Now as to your second ignorant rant denniso, about there being no God, I do want you to know, and unfortunately enough for you, one day you will meet Him, and you will bow down before Him, and you will give an account of yourself to Him. At that point, feel totally free to tell Him he isnt real. Any dummy can open his eyes and look around and see the sky and the stars and the planets and the oceans, and the millions of birds and animals, and dont forget the human beings, and yet science continues to grasp at straws trying to figure out how we got here, when its simple, God created us like He said. And yes, I do know this for certain, as His Holy Spirit lives within me pal. And you cannot possible comprehend this on a human level, because it is not a human thing. Its a God thing. When you invite Him in your life, He will definitely let you know that yes, He is real, and yes, He does exist, and yes, He is alive and well and will make an appearance here again. And you my friend, you will get to meet Him, face to face. I truly hope by then you change your human tune and human outlook, because in that day, it will not fare well for you if you are the same as you are today. No, I would not want to be you on that day, unless, like I said, you change. But that my friend, is a call you and only you can make. Think about it.

          • denniso

            Beb…I didn’t attack your god or say she didn’t exist…I simply said that there are sites online that claim to know absolutely that she is real. Now,how would anyone actually know that,or prove it? As you god-fearing people often say it’s a matter of ‘faith’,and beyond human comprehension,so how can that be proven as a fact? Only because you ‘feel’ it? Come on now,many people ‘feel’ lots of crazy things,so does that mean everything felt by people is then inherently true? There are millions of kooks who ‘feel’ very strongly that they have been kidnapped by aliens and had sexual experiments done on them…do those feelings mean it’s true? You and others who have a need to believe in mysterious,unseen/unproven things like gods,alien abductions,reincarnation,virgin births,resurrections,aliens making crop circles,jet contrails designed to kill us,Armageddon,NWO,Obama’s a dictator/fascist/marxist,ghosts and still more childish malarkey, seem to have trouble accepting the reality that we actually live with and that science works everyday to understand and unravel.

            If your ‘God’ created us w/ the mental capacity and curosity to do what no other creature can,why would She then try to shroud herself in mystery and make Herself incomprehensible to us? If we are not supposed to use the very logic and brain power given to us by your god, to be able to comprehend and know as a fact this god,then can’t you believers see there is a total breakdown in any sort of logic and rational thinking?

            You provided no specifics about all the bad/illegal/criminal things that you say Hillary has done…You might as well have said you just know that she is bad and has comitted crimes w/o saying anything more…just your word for it. Everyone knows that using the internet for any politically charged research is full of dubious results. Anyone,and many thousands have done it,can set up a site smearing people they hate. You can’t know the truth or falsity of an issue just because it’s on the web. You hate the Clintons and Obama and all liberals so you reinforce your hatred by reading or listening to the untruthsspouted by other haters of them. That’s hardly any way to come to the truth of an issue,and is something like your blind faith in a hidden god/spirits/devil,who only exist in your imagination and reinforced by others just like you…that doesn’t make it true.

          • vicki

            Denniso writes:
            “You know that you can also find sites that contend God is real?”

            Do you have evidence that God is NOT real? Please share.

        • Buddy

          Rhodes scholar? Yale Law Degree? No question but that Hill and Bill are intelligent and clever.

          The question is not intelligence but morality, ethics and subjectivity.

          • ItsJo

            Exactly right Buddy in your post. To know what the REAL Hillary is all about suggest people read the late Barbara Olsen’s book-
            “HELL TO PAY”. Ms.Olsen was killed in the 9/11 Pentagon crash, and her book came out that week, where she exposed Hillary’s past’/present
            agenda. Hillary is ALL about Power/Money-and she wanted to control the internet as she said years ago. She, like Obama, is a ‘student of
            Radical-Saul Alinsky, and they use his teachings like their bibles.
            btw: Barbara Olsen was an attorney and her husband Ted Olsen was with the Justice Dept. Barbara was in charge of the investigation of Hillary in the “Whitewater” case, etal.

          • http://?? Joe H.

            Buddy,
            Careful there, you’ll break denny’s heart, disparaging his heroes like that!!! Both klintoons are meglomaniacs and God help ANYONE who gets between them and their prize!!

        • Nadzieja Batki

          Trash of any variety is still trash. You can perfume it all you want, the stink is still there.
          Nancy Reagan was not wanting to be President and pushing Reagan out of the way. A wife does give advice to her husband and they do discuss the day to day happenings.
          You, apparently, do not appear to have been married or are married.
          The Clintons had/have a role reversal relationship. She is the chief and he is a subordinate.

        • DaveH

          Denniso,
          As usual you’re spouting nonsense. If degrees translated into economic good sense, then we wouldn’t be in the trouble we’re in right now. No amount of education can prepare anybody to know what is best for everybody else. People have disparate wants and needs. No Politicians are capable of satisfying those individual needs. That must be done by the individuals themselves.
          For those of you who want to see the “Rhode’s Scholar” in action, read this article just out on Yahoo Finance today (unbelievable BS from the King of BS):
          http://finance.yahoo.com/blogs/daily-ticker/president-bill-clinton-yes-american-dream-under-assault-231659873.html

          • DaveH

            For example, Bill says “Previously, corporations were “more or less” equally responsible to shareholders, employees, customers and the communities where they operated. “Now, shareholders are up here and everybody else is way down there.”

            That is exactly opposite of the truth (surprise, surprise). Prior to the Progressive movement to give rights to “stakeholders” (i.e. employees, customers, and the community) the shareholders, those who actually invested their money to create and maintain the company, were unchallenged in their ownership rights. As it should be. The rest were beneficiaries of the resulting products of those companies. And they should have been grateful for that. Instead Progressives, in their greed, looked a gift-horse in the mouth and clamored for much more. In the process, as usually happens when Greedy people are given full rein, they have diminished the productivity and output of those companies. So we all suffer.

        • hawkeye

          You have become one of the label freaks of America. Why haven’t you realized that all these “ivy-league” schools are utilized (and financed by) for the rich elite to perpetuate their takeover of the free people (God’s real people) by the elite. Their Agenda is to kill 85% of the population on the planet and take it over for themselves. Oh you are so for them…do you think you will be spared? They send their kids to them and train them the way they want them to go. They are brainwashed that they are so superior to all the inferior Americans here in America. They also own the Federal Reserve, and have all the money they need to make sure all their “groupies” are bought and paid for. Do you know that God, (Jesus) supplied everything for all people and that you don’t need money to survive? That all the FREE technology is already out there and is just being suppressed to keep the evil in power? Have a good day.

          • http://donthaveone Beberoni

            These so called rich boy Ivy league schools, are the liberal think tanks that spawn anti American Americans. It seems their whole agenda is to make everyone evil except themselves, when in truth, they are the evil ones with all their Anti-God rhetoric. They think of themselves as wise, but they are the reason for the dumbing down of America. And one day they will be exposed, by a much higher authority.

        • Dennis48e

          “Ringer’s article is so full of lies and misleading statements as to make it essentially worthless and pointless to read,”

          And that would be how? Provide some proof of the lies in the article dennis the menace.

          “Bill is a Rhodes scholar,can any of you or Robert Ringer say that? Hillary is a Wellesley College graduate w/ a law degree from Yale University along w/ many ‘first’ accomplishments.”

          Just because they have fancy degrees from fancy colleges doesn’t prevent them from being white trash.

          • Void1972

            Dennis,
            hillary, bill, obama, soros and thousands of other “highly educated” satanist now control the world. The problem isn’t their education, the problem is their hatred for America and everything under God.
            The battle we face is really about good and evil, and it’s in your face every day. Just turn on your flat screen, and every bit of information your brain receives is negative or bizarre. Constant negative waves normalizes the negative, or evil in this case.
            Every reality show is corrupt. Most media is corrupt. 99% of hollywood is corrupt. al sharpton even has his own freak show on msnbc. how sick, demented and corrupt has America become?
            Up until 1978, if you looked up homosexuality in the dictionary, it was considered a mental illness, now it’s the right way to be.
            Good is bad and bad is good.
            The battle is now for the soul of the last hope for humanity. America is that last hope, and if we let these satanist, and they are just that, win, well, you know from the bible what happens in the end. I personally am not ready for the end game, not because of myself, but for my children. I want them to live a better life then i had, and right now it doesn’t look good.
            Please try to educate people about the evil that is in power. Everyday it is in your face. If you can’t see it, then you are part of it.
            Millions of Americans that have fallen for the evil, and have sold their souls for a free government handout, will come together next fall and defend satan.
            They will riot and murder in his name. The obamanation will not give up without creating as much racial horror as inhumanly possible.
            This is the way 2012 will end.
            Keep your faith in our one and true God.
            Keep your family and friends close and try to open their eyes by truth, fact and logic.
            Distance yourself from the evil ones.
            Buy as much protection as you can afford.
            Store food and water.
            Get ready for the battle of your life!
            One of the “evil ones” little jimmy hoffa, leaked obamas plan out early by stating “lets take these sons of bitches out”.
            The least we can do is let them die trying!
            God Bless America, and those who fight for her!!!!

          • http://donthaveone Beberoni

            To tell the truth Dennis, of all the hundreds of people I know, some of them with the most prestigious college degree’s, are the dumbest ones I know. Sure, they make good money, but they trash their marriages and most relationships they have, they dump their friends to the curb in the chase for the almight dollar, then they get rich, and yet they arent filled, they want more, and I have seen money become their god, and it has totally changed their person and basically ruined their lives. And when you trash and dump everything that was good in your life, for the pursuit of another dollar, that a stupid, stupid thing to do. And one day though, they will all realize, as they are old and dying, that all that money isnt going to save them, and they cant take it with them and it will all be left here from someone else to have, and for some, sadly, it isnt until that point that they get the picture, that their pursuit of money was a wasted life time, as it accomplished nothing. A mans true wealth is measured by what he gives away, not by what he accumulates. Maybe, just maybe if our so called system of higher learning ever came to understand that, then maybe the world would be a much better place to live in. Im sure of that.

        • http://donthaveone Beberoni

          Like I said, white trash WITH MONEY. Duh. Do you pay attention at all. I dont care what kind of education some rich daddies money bought you, you steal the furniture from the White House, and kill everyone that crosses you, your white trash pal. Its pretty cut and dried. You cheat on your wife constantly, your white trash. You sell your countries technology to China, your white trash. You sell your voter base’s jobs to Mexico, your white trash. And if your a woman, and your husband is cheating on you with anything that walks and breathes, and you stay with him because his name and position bring you power and fame, yeah, again, your white trash. Thats prostitution in the purest form pal. She has prostituted herself for money and fame. Like I said, white trash.

          • Karolyn

            Beberoni – Neither one of them had rich daddies. Clinton’s left his mother; and Hillary’s was a working stiff. They worked their way up the ladder. Isn’t that something you guys usually admire? Hillary started out in college as a Republican too. Also, her staying with Bill had to do with love and the fact that no matter what he did, he came home to her. For many women, that’s what counts; and it’s not for us to judge how anyone else handles their own relationship. Everybody just loves to stand in judgment of people they don’t like, when, in fact, we really don’t know anything about the inner workings of anyone else’s mind.

          • http://?? Joe H.

            karolyn,
            Yeah, and she took the chance of him bringing something home she didn’t want……AIDS!!!now is this the kind of smarts you want in the White House, AGAIN??? If so, they are exactly what you DESERVE!!!

          • denniso

            Karolyn…good points. It’s funny that I have never heard any of these blowhard and judgemental rightwingers attack or demean any of the large number of Republicans who have been caught cheating on their wives.

          • libertytrain

            denniso, if you haven’t seen that then you have missed an awful lot of posts – at least during the last couple of years I ‘ve been here. Sewer scum is alive and thriving n each political party.

          • http://donthaveone Beberoni

            Hugh Rodham, Hillary’s dad was a very successful textile man in Chicago, and he had wealth. And believe it or not, he was a Republican who thought Bill would see the light and leave the darkside, but instead he drug his daughter into the dark side with him. Bill Clinton was born not to rich folks, but was funded by the Rockefellers once he became rotten.

          • denniso

            Libertytrain…I don’t read every post,it’s bad enough to read the thousands I have read over two yrs or so. If anyone on the right ever castigated one of the many republicans for adultery on this site,I never saw it and if it happened it couldn’t have happened much or I would have seen it. The right still howls over Clinton-Lewinsky,yet rarely or never mentions their own ‘evil doers’.

          • libertytrain

            well dearie pie, I don’t know why you torture yourself by reading – however, despite all those thousands you have read, you apparently missed hundreds of posts castigating the republican and democrats – — I don’t recall much publicity or I will say I have no information on Libertarian politician adulterers – I’m sure you do though.

          • http://donthaveone Beberoni

            I didnt castigate Bill for adultery, your changing around what I said just like a good little democrat. I was attacking Hillary for putting up with it just so she could stay in the powerful position of being first lady, and that is a form of prostitution, whoring yourself out for money. Thats all it is. And of course Bill kept coming home you dummy. Almost every lying cheating adulterous man always comes home to the wifey, until they get caught, then some leave, or are asked to leave. I do not and will not support adultery from anyone, regardless of being a democrat or a Republican. Its wrong, wrong wrong. And yes, I believe in forgiveness and second chances for everyone. But it seems old Slick Willy burnt up chances 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 and who knows how many more. There comes a time when an intelligent person says, fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me. A wise person learns from their mistakes. A fool repeats them. Bill is a fool, and Hillary is a fool for supporting him while he was murdering their marriage. I have no respect for her what so ever, and I know many women that feel the same way. She makes women all over look dumb, and she prostituted herself for the money and prestige. Thats all there is to it. You can change the colors and try to rewrite things, but what is, is what is, and sooner or later youve got to accept it.

          • vicki

            Denniso writes:
            “I don’t read every post,it’s bad enough to read the thousands I have read over two yrs or so.”

            Then why are you still here?

        • Jay

          denniso: Hillbillies?? White trash??? Bill is a Rhodes scholar,can any of you or Robert Ringer say that? Hillary is a Wellesley College graduate w/ a law degree from Yale University along w/ many ‘first’ accomplishments. Any of the haters above who graduated from Yale? Any of you been a Secretary of State?

          Hey denniso, you forgot to ask one question. Any of you ever had the people that worked for you assassinated, like bill clinton did? Clinton’s may be high on education, but they scrape the bottom of the barrel when it comes to ethics!!! Ha!

          • Dan az
          • Jay

            Dan, i’m downloading it as we speak. Will transfer it to my mp3, and listen to it on my way to work tomorrow. Appears to be very interesting. Thanks Dan!!!

          • JeffH

            Brother Dan…WOW! Very interesting. I added the link to my favs and read quite a bit…WOW! Some real food for thought…to sort out.

            Great! :)

          • denniso

            Jay…what a lie you still want to spread…Foster was not murdered,but comitted suicide because of the extreme pressure he was under at the time,mostly due to people like you and your sick rightwing extremist leaders. You people set up something like his suicide and then try to pin the blame on Clinton…what a freaking joke! I guess you think that even though Clinton couldn’t hide his affair he was able to control the Foster investigation and force the DA to rule it a suicide instead of a Clinton orchestrated murder? Again, what a fresking joke! Do you have any ability to reason at all anymore or have you sold your entire mind to the rightwing lie machine?

          • http://donthaveone Beberoni

            And all those other people committed suicide too, that had damning information on the Clintons, and were found with their hands tied and bullets in the back of their head, and it was ruled suicide. Ron Brown was set to testify in court, and his perfectly good plane just decided to fall out of the sky. Stick your head in the sand, but it sure is mysterious how almost everyone who might have had something damning to say, were killed one after another. Ever read up on the Mena Arkansas drug thing? Its mind boggling how all the witnesses and people who saw things, all ended up dead, even some of the lawyers and policemen that were around these people, they might have know something and they were terminated also. You can trust the Clintons, but I assure you, anyone that knows them doesnt, so why should I?

          • denniso

            ‘And all those other people who had their hands tied and shot in the back of the head’??? And what other people are those?

            You’ve lost your freaking mind,Beb…

        • Pat

          no comment on this except..hahahaha

      • Old Henry

        Cooome and listen to my story bout a reprobate named Slick Willy, married to a fellow commie, her friends just cll her Hilly…

        And then one day he wos lookin for some blooow, and in thru the door came yet another hoooo.

        • Angel Wannabe

          Old Henry, LMAO!!!

          • Old Henry

            Glad I brightened yer day Angel Wannabe.

            Second verse, same as the first…

            The Hot Springs Hill Billies. Tax-payer funded swimming pools. Commie movie stars…

        • JeffH

          OH, you just made my day…I’ll be comin’ back to this comment for more laughs! :)

        • independant thinker

          Good one Old Henry. Now if you could work in something about them being pathalogical liers you could have a gold record on your hands.

          • ItsJo

            The Clinton’s “Holly-woodheads, that they used to Raise Lots of Cash”,
            were used, abused, and then thrown under the bus when the Clinton’s finished with them. Just look up what producer, David Geffen said of them-”The Clinton’s are great liars, and they do it with SUCH ease”
            I am paraphrasing here, but that’s the idea. Even Geffen KNEW they were pathalogical liars, who would do ANYTHING FOR CASH. They used that library in AK, to ‘launder cash through’, and didn’t even declare
            their so-called charity organizations’ cash, until it had to be probed
            into. These two “Hillbillies For Cash”, Know ONLY ONE THING-”Power CREATES MONEY”

          • Old Henry

            independant thinker:

            That’s a tuf one. I’be been a workin on it fer an hour and I’ve got Word Docs all over the floor….

            Maybe tonight with some Miller Lite and a scratch pad…

            Now i gotta go do some trim mowin and enjoy the last of summer.

            Ifn I “get er done” I will post it – probably in a couple of days.

            Stay tuned. Same Bat Channel…

          • Old Henry

            ItsJo:

            And powder creates high velocity projectiles…

        • jhhodges

          I would say this to you henry. what comes out of your mouth sounds like hen droppings….you know…old fashioned chicken s**t. Either one of them has more class in their little toe than you have in your entire being.

          • Old Henry

            jhhodges:

            Aw, you hurt my feelings. Now go wax your BMW.

          • Old Henry

            HodgePodge:

            By the way, it did not come out of my mouth. It came out of my keyboard. You gotta watch those things constantly.

          • JeffH

            Old Henry, I don’t think jhhodges appreciates your humor… :)

            Oh well, better to be pi$$ed off than pi$$ed on I guess.

          • Jay

            jhhodes, the clinton’s are stone cold killers! Just ask anybody that’s ever worked for them. Oh wait, you can’t, they’re all dead!!! You’re such a boob!

          • http://?? Joe H.

            hodges,
            Better yet, go polish your brown nose and get over it, they AREN’T GONNA TAKE YOU WITH THEM!!!

        • http://donthaveone Beberoni

          Grabbed another cigar he did, real cool. Next thing you know Willy’s on the college route, giving speeches for a million and thats what he’s about. Yeah, its kind of like that.

        • Al Sieber

          Henry, “I know Slick Willie” he lives 2 miles from me, he’s my closes neighbor thank God.

      • Vagabond

        AMEN TO THAT Beberoni,

      • http://fernhart.com Marianne

        Dear Bebroni,

        Please! Stop worrying about semantics and focus on the only Constitutionalist, honest, consistent, PRO-AMERICAN candidate! He is not even mentioned on the many informative and interesting posts here –only 2– even the Huffington Post says “RON PAUL IS THE ONLY LOGICAL CHOICE”. They probably think that he can’t beat Obama BUT the Californa Republican Party ran a poll that showed Ron the winner over Perry and Romney –GET THIS– COMBINED!!!

        • http://donthaveone Beberoni

          Semantics? Me? Really? Where did you make that connection? And Ron Paul blew it last election when he was invited to the debate, and whinned like a little girl the whole time. You cant be a whiny little piss and be the president. Sorry, it doesnt work. Now Rand Paul, he handles himself much better, but when Ron Paul came across as a whiny victim, I knew he wasnt the guy. And appeasement wont work, and Ron has made it clear he is a pacifist appeaser. Sorry, but its true. I love the platform and the things the libertarian party holds as important to them, but youve got to be a strong leader, and sorry, he just isnt. I wish he was, but its not there. Im sure he is a good man, but I dont see the leadership skills in him. Of course, I dont see them in Obama either, but a bunch of people were fooled and thought they did, and now look whats happened to us. Not good.

          • steve in AZ

            “You cant be a whiny little piss and be the president.” Ex-squeeze me?

            Assphyncter sez what?

            Looks to me like bruv-vah O be doin’ a pretty good job of it.

          • http://?? Joe H.

            Steve in AZ,
            you must mean he’s doing a great job of being a pi$$ a$$ whiner as he sure isn’t even a fair pi$$ a$$ president!!

          • Dan az

            Steve az
            Take the time to listen to this!And BTW where in AZ?There is quite allot of us here!

          • Dan az
          • http://donthaveone Beberoni

            To Steve in AZ, as much as I dislike Obama, I dont find him to be a whiner or a little piss at all. I find him to be quite the opposite, an arrogant lying S.O.B. that stands right up and proudly tells his lies in all our faces, not a whiny little sniffling like Ron Paul comes across as. I have no doubt Ron Paul would do a much, much better job than Obama, but I also know our enemies would be laughing at him as much as they do Obama, when they see how weak he would be on national defense. He wants to cut the military, and we all see what happened when one, William Jefferson Clinton cut the military and intelligence in half. Hello 9-11. That is what happens when you dont pay attention and keep your military and intelligence strong.

          • denniso

            Our ‘defense’ budget is obscene…Clinton responded to the end of the threat from the Soviet Union by slightly reducing military spending. He didn’t gut the military at all. We still had all of our intell agencies keeping track of terrorists and other threats…

            Remember the packet of info left for Condoleeza Rice upon her arrival as head of the national security agency? ‘Bin Ladden determined to stike w/in the U.S. She ignored it,and the rest is history,but you can’t blame 9/11 on Clinton or on military cuts…that’s bogus.

          • http://?? Joe H.

            denniso,
            you are out of your mind! There were units that, after slick willie got done, couldn’t even meet there TO&E specs. They were lacking repai parts for aircraft, trucks and even tanks!! Slick Willie not only gutted the service, I still say he was responsible for a few of the US deaths at the earlier days of the war!! Then when he left, he tried to steal the White House silverware!! What a low brow A$$!!!

          • denniso

            Our military is at least twice as large as it needs to be. If you can’t see that then you’re more than blind…If Bush went to war w/ an unprepared army then you should blame him,and that was 3 yrs after Clinton was gone anyway. You righties are so thick headed and overtly warmongers,it’s pathetic. Spend all the money you can on military and ignore every other dire need in the country…stupid.

          • http://donthaveone Beberoni

            Get a clue denniso. He ravaged the intelligence agencies we had, thinking it not neccessary, and he plundered our military and sold our technology to China [insult removed]. That is how all the muslim terrorists roamed around the country undetected for over 5 years while they were setting up 9-11. And seriously Pal, think about what your saying. Clinton was offered Bin Laden on more than one occasion, and didnt take him. You want to point fingers and place blame, look no further than Slick Willy, the same [offensive word removed] that cause the banks to collapse with his American Dream of everyone owning a house, and backing loans to people who didnt have a prayer of paying them back, and placing a loser like Barney Frank in charge of being the watchdog over it. Real nice move. Always easier to screw something up, walk away, and blame the guy who is around when your tom foolery catches up. The guy was a worthless moral-less leper who screwed things up so bad, and we are still paying for his worthlessness.

          • denniso

            Clinton brought peace to the Balkans w/ losing a single U.S. soldier.

            Clinton left Bush a surplus and Bush promptly gave it away to the wealthy.

            Clinton reformed welfare and under Bush we increased poverty in the country while the rich became much richer.

            You and your kind are blinded by hatred and a hypocritical ideology.

          • denniso

            w/o losing a single U.S. soldier…

      • ChaCha

        And your type … they are plenty dumb too, you know!

    • Vagabond

      Roy I am a product of Noeth Carolina and have considered myself a Hill Bill even back when we were looked on as missfits by somany who thought they were so smart, and I do not even like bill and hill being called Hill Billy.

      • Old Henry

        Well folks, who would ya want coverin’ yer back? A “Hill Billie” or the Clintons????

        Pretty simple choice…

        • http://donthaveone Beberoni

          Ill tell you what, if Obama and the democrats get their way eventually about trying to take everyones guns, I wouldnt want to be the government agents that walk into the Appalachians and start telling folks to give their guns up. They wont make it to the front of the driveway. Hillbillies got my back, and Ive got theirs.

    • Stephan F.

      Mr. West:

      I’m afraid I clearly disagree with the points you make here.

      Mr. Ringer’s use of the term “Hillbillies” is his acronymic method to refer to that disgraceful couple we’ve grown so fond of. (Hill = Hillary, Bill = Bill Clinton). To me, he uses this term in a tongue-in-cheek manner that only Robert can. Anyone who is as familiar with his writing style as I am, clearly knows this is just his use of clever verbiage. Mr. Ringer is a gentleman’s gentleman and in no way would use a disparaging term in an inappropriate manner.

      Secondly, I must say your whole post smacks of “political correctness”, the very term invented by those two immoral degenerates, that I, frankly, am sick of hearing about. Although, I’m sure, you’re well intended; you didn’t quite give your piece the attention it clearly needs.

      • Old Henry

        Thank you Mrs. Ringer.

        • John

          What ever happened to the term “REDNECK” and why has no one used it? You have been doing a huge disservice to true hill people who have always been able to care for themselves and look out for their neighbors.

          • independant thinker

            perhaps because Foxworthy made the term REDNECK respectable.

          • Old Henry

            independant thinker:

            LOL! Eeeee Haaaa!

      • JeffH

        Stephan F., thanks for pointing out the Hill-Bill reference. It was pretty easy to see what Ringer meant.

    • hawkeye

      The name I’ve heard “them” called is Hillbillary. I enjoyed the article and it stimulates a lot of thought. Which Hillary clone is going to be running? The ugly one with the mole on her face, or the papery skinned one with the Stepfordwives eyes? You can see the pictures on here—>http://alcuinbramerton.blogspot.com/2008/01/bilocation-of-hillary-clone-clinton.html Now I’m sure everyone knows that William Jefferson Rockefeller Clinton is the bastard son of one of the Rockefellers, right? They think they will finish wrapping up Agenda 21 for the elite, right? Clinton and Bush Sr. were busy taking up money for all the victims of Haiti, right? Telethons, etc. So REALLY they were putting the proceeds into their own pockets, YES, they are thieves and Liars!! Haiti, earthquake was a “created” earthquake from a nuclear bomb under the ocean. People, don’t be deceived by these Clones!!!

      • Ted

        Hawkeye: Please seek Emergency Mental Health Services STAT!

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        Right! And Bush invaded Iraq to take their oil. Remember all the oil he took? Oh wait, thats right, that didnt happen. Oh yeah, and Bush and Cheney blew up the World Trade Centers and the muslim terrorists are completely innocent and being framed for it. Right. And Ted Kennedy never took a drink. Someone call the medics, I think he’s gonna crash.

        • http://?? Joe H.

          Beberoni,
          Well, Ted never took a drink that wasn’t followed by another? He never saw a drink he didn’t like? He quit drinking at a young age…After they invented the funnel? got smart and invested in the liquer companies so he could support HIMSELF???

    • hawkeye

      Yeah, they are white trash. They could also be clones http://alcuinbramerton.blogspot.com/2008/01/bilocation-of-hillary-clone-clinton.html You tell me if this is so. Oh well….Clone for President…this is America…land of the white trash corrupt politics and political agendas….Hillbillary and William Jefferson Rockefeller Clinton.

      • Dan az

        hawkeye
        Some sites take it to the extreme and you have to recognize them for what they are.But they do carry good facts among the BS like these.
        Richard Holbrooke and Hillary Clinton’s screaming match then went physical. Hillary began to physically attack Holbrooke. Holbrooke defended himself and during the altercation forced Hillary to the ground causing her right elbow to fracture. After her fight with Holbrooke, Clinton was treated at The George Washington University Hospital before going home. She later underwent surgery to repair the damage on Friday 19th June 2009. This photograph here, taken on Monday 22nd June 2009, shows Clinton’s injured right arm. It is said that much of the exchange between Hillary and Holbrooke was recorded by State Department security cameras. Inside the Beltway, Richard Holbrooke suddenly became the most popular person in town.

        Another celebrated Hillary Clinton tantrum occurred back in the 1990s during Bill Clinton’s presidency. Investigating unusual noises at the White House one evening, a Federal Secret Service agent discovered the First Lady in a well-lubricated lesbian sexual encounter with the regular White House prostitute known as Susan. Clinton responded by attacking the agent with a heavy glass ash tray. In fairness, it should be remarked that Susan was never exclusively lesbian in the services she provided for the US governing class. Current CIA Chief Leon Panetta and ABC talk show host George Stephanopoulos both caught genital herpes from Susan at White House socials.
        But the rest is takes it a little over the top don’t you think?

    • AJ

      White Trash at best with a lot of dead bodies turning up around them as they rose to power!

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        A lot of dead bodies. And isnt it amazing how many of them had bullet holes in the back of their head, and it was ruled as a suicide. Amazing.

    • Tom

      Agree 100%. They are just trash from Arkansas.

    • David M

      I agree not hillbillies how about thieves, does anyone remember that when the Clintons left office, all of paintings and other artifacts that Hillary tried to steal? She was ordered to return them. Can never forget the Clinton staff all tried to steal bath robes towels you name it off the USS Washington, whjen the Admiral caught them, they all thought they were gifts. Could Hillary win? Never, besides she needs to check in to Betty Ford for her heavy drinking problems.

    • LadyGreenEyes

      Amen to that! They are NOT anything close to “hillbillies”! Too much of those real American bloodlines in my veins to approve of this poor choice of nicknames for that pair!

  • FreedomFighter

    “Having said all this, for those of us who are still intent on resisting a left-wing police state in America, I think we would be wise to be careful what we wish for. Obama can be beaten, but probably not Hillary.”

    I agree, they will pull Hillary out at the last moment. I disagree about her probably not being beaten. It would take allot of money though, so get ready to dig deep and give or start to practice saying “Comrades”.

    Keep your powder dry comrades, we going to need it.

    Laus Deo
    Semper Fi

    • wandamurline

      The only problem with Clinton running is that the Democratic party has their “black” poster boy…they have called everyone who disagrees with him a racist. Now if they run Clinton, how is she going to debate him? She will be seen as a racist…this will destroy the party, and the elists of the Democrat party will not do that…they cannot affort to have anyone run against him. They are in a real pickle. But, as Glenn Beck told us last summer….he predicted Clinton, even though she is as much a NWO and a tyrant as Obama, America would see her as their saviuor from Obumer. The only good news is that there is a time when she has to put in or shut up and I believe it comes either in October or November…we are in September…I say a prayer everyday as she would be the final nail in America’s coffin and we have enough stupid people in this country that would actually vote for her. God Bless America…get on your knees and pray for our country.

    • Al Sieber

      I agree, but why do we keep putting up with all this crap? these people should be tried for treason…..

      • denniso

        Childish,simplistic,ignorant!! Are you tough guys going to call for Bush,Cheny and Rummy to be tried for treason for the lies leading up to the Iraq invasion? No, I didn’t think so!

        • FreedomFighter

          Bush was NWO, Clinton also, Obummer is the end game puppet.

          Laus Deo
          Semper Fi

          • denniso

            How can you stay so stuck on a passe term like NWO??? There is no such thing! Bush 1 first coined the term and all he meant was a more peaceful,cooperative world w/ countries working together for the good of all. Not very scary,and not much to show for it anyway.

            You need to get out of the house,away from the rightwing sites that are polluting what’s left of your mind,and do something helpful and productive in your community…NWO???? Give me a break!

          • DaveH

            Do you really think your adolescent rants influence anybody, Denniso? My bet is that your ignorant rants have the opposite effect on most readers.

          • Old Henry

            Well denniso, the tern NWO has been around long before old man Bush used it. And I still can’t believe they let him do that.

            Now when that loud popping sound occurs straighten up very slowly so as not to damage your back. Remember it has been in that position for a long time.

          • Old Henry

            Hey DaveH, wasn’t it denniso that went on a tyraid all day last Friday, and into Saturday, about how “we” are always calling people names?

          • JeffH

            Old Henry, denisso has been going on with his/her tyraids for a few years now…with denisso, nothing ever changes. Without a doubt one of the most hatefull, vial and miserable individuals I’ve never had the dis-pleasure of knowing. Lifes a “biatch”!

          • Old Henry

            JeffH:

            If nothing else, he is consistent…

          • JeffH

            OH, correctomundo…same-o, ssme-o.

          • Jay

            1993 – June 22.  In case there is any doubt about whether President Clinton(CFR) supports world government, on this date he signs a letter to the World Federalist Association congratulating Strobe Talbott(CFR) on receiving (june 24) the WFA’s first “Norman Cousins Global Governance Award.”  The WFA is a leading force for world federal government.  Clinton’s letter states:  “Norman Cousins worked for world peace and world government…Strobe Talbott’s lifetime achievements as a voice for global harmony have earned him this recognition….He will be a worthy recipient of the Norman Cousins Global Governance Award.  Best wishes….for future success.”

            “We can’t be so fixated on our desire to preserve the rights of ordinary Americans…” 
Bill Clinton (USA TODAY, 11 March 1993, page 2A)
            * * *

          • http://?? Joe H.

            JeffH,
            That’s same-o, same-o dennis-o!!! You can almost predict his posts!!!

        • DaveH

          We know, Denniso, anything that doesn’t come from your infantile brain is “childish, simplistic, and ignorant”. Tell us something new, Ignoramus.

          • Old Henry

            Well DaveH, in my childish opinion a lot of our problems are simplistic. It’s the liberals who continually try to make them complicated to the point that no one can make heads or tails out of them.

            They try to get everybody to the point that we are in the old addage of “When you’re up to your ass in alligators, it’s hard to remember your objectve was to drain the swamp.”

          • Amy

            Is that your integrity shining through Dave?

            in·teg·ri·ty   /ɪnˈtɛgrɪti/ Show Spelled[in-teg-ri-tee] Show IPA
            noun
            1. adherence to moral and ethical principles; soundness of moral character; honesty.

            Oh sorry, you are honestly a bafoon

          • DaveH

            I was quoting from Denniso’s comment, Amy. Why didn’t you attack Denniso? Duh, let me guess, would it have anything to do with Zealotry?

          • Dan az

            Oh look its amy the clone to denny!Now there goes the neighbor hood!

          • Old Henry

            Dan az:

            Maybe they’re paternal twins.

        • Vagabond

          denniso why dont you do us all a favor and keep your mindless thoughts and ramblings to your self and let us enjoy the rest of the views and thoughts of intelligent people???

          • JeffH

            V, wishfull thinking…it ain’t gonna happen! It is what it is! :)

          • Old Henry

            Now Vagabond, you’re soundidng like hodges up above..

            Remember, Civil Discourseis the catch phrase. Unless you’re a Democrap…

        • http://donthaveone Beberoni

          No, I think they should be awarded medals for standing up to those who kept punching us in the nose time and time again, something Bill Clinton was to coward to do. And thats a fact, jack.

        • Al Sieber

          denniso, anyone that violates the Constitution should be tried for treason. what are you nuts? or just dumb?

          • denniso

            Maybe you could explain how Bush/Cheny/Rumsfeldt ‘validated’ the constitution by invading Iraq and slaughtering more than 100,000 civilians? Was it how they manipulated the intelligence and coerced the CIA to support their foregone conclusion that Saddam had WMD? Or was it the waterboarding that everyone in the world calls torture? Maybe it was the outing of a CIA agent for political payback?

            I’ll await your answer…

          • http://donthaveone Beberoni

            The democrats all voted to invade Iraq dummy denniso. Get a life.

          • denniso

            Who’s the dummy? Cheny and company coerced the CIA into manipulating intel…got the press onboard w/ visions of atomic bombs that didn’t exist.Weapons inspectors combed Iraq for any sign of WMD and found none. When most of Congress,not all of the Dems,voted to authorize the use of force it was done under a cloud of fearmongering and lies…hardly a credible vote. Bush/Cheny/Rumsfeldt all should be in jail for treason and war crimes.

          • http://donthaveone Beberoni

            You might want to revisit that WMD statement. I recall when Slick Willy was in office, the UN inspectors went through there, and had pages of WMD’s inventoried, and old Saddam was supposed to show proof he got rid of them. Well, we all know he got rid of them, but to where? Iran? Syria? Turkey? They are somewhere, because they were inventoried way before the war started. And Bush got the same intel the democrats got, who were crying from the mountain top that Saddam was dangerous and had WMD’s and had to be stopped, and I watched them on live TV saying this, BEFORE BUSH WAS EVEN A CANDIDATE for President. Cheney didnt manipulate squat. Your lefties have manipulated your mind, and you cant see straight denniso. Get real.

    • Old Henry

      FreedomFighter:

      As bob stated, if Hilly jumps in it will rip the democrap party apart and racism will be trumpeted. So, I still think that in order to preserve unity they will dump Idiot Joe and given the Clinton’s proclivity for leaving dead bodies in their wake
      they insert Hilly.

      Then, some morning very early in 2013 Little Barry will simply not wake up – terminal nightmare. Or, there will be some sort of an “accident”.

      That way they keep things unified during the campaign, avoid the raism issue and get the White Trash back in charge. They view it as a win-win situation.

    • Nadzieja Batki

      I agree with you. The Dems will bring back the Clintons.
      Their shenanigans will be glossed over, but also could be passed as the new normal.

      • DaveH

        Nadzieja,
        I think Hillary has too much baggage waiting to be dredged up. I doubt that she would be taken seriously by anybody but the Democratic zealots who will vote for anybody with the Demo label.

        • Kate8

          DaveH – Haven’t you noticed? Liberals don’t care about baggage. In fact, it seems that they find it endearing.

          We thought the Clintons were sleazy. Just look at all Obama’s gotten away with…and it makes absolutely no difference to the libs. It seems that the more reprobate they are, the more they love them. Now ol’ slick willy is some kind of hero to the Left. I’d say that it’s largely BECAUSE of his lack of moral character, not in spite of it.

          What’s really weird is how Bill and Hill think they somehow are entitled to own the US. Perhaps they’ve received promises from the PTB…Maybe Hill was told to wait 4 more years until after America had a taste of Odumbo…

          The bottom line for the Left is…”just promise me the money”…(not “show me”, because they’ll never see it).

          All I know is the whole thing makes me cringe.

          • JeffH

            Kate8, that’s for sure. Hill-Bill have been keeping a pretty low profile…outta sight, outta mind…but as you recall, Bill has been quite the elder statesman at times, with or without Obama’s approval…calculated positioning I say.

            Everyone must remember that Hillar and Obama were both students of the school of the Alinsky Marxists. Hill wrote her college thesis about Saul Alinsky.
            http://www.hillaryclintonquarterly.com/hillaryclintonsthesis.htm
            Hillary, Obama and the Cult of Alinsky: “True revolutionaries do not flaunt their radicalism, Alinsky taught. They cut their hair, put on suits and infiltrate the system from within. Alinsky viewed revolution as a slow, patient process. The trick was to penetrate existing institutions such as churches, unions and political parties.

            Many leftists view Hillary as a sell-out because she claims to hold moderate views on some issues. However, Hillary is simply following Alinsky’s counsel to do and say whatever it takes to gain power.

          • DaveH

            Those are the “Democratic zealots” that I spoke of, Kate.

          • Dan az

            Kate..Dave..Jeff
            listen to this it sounds like all this NWO crap maybe collapsing around them.
            http://www.divinecosmos.com/start-here/davids-blog/975-undergroundbases

          • JeffH

            Brother Dan, I picked up on it from your post to Jay…read some of it and added bookmarked the link so I can go back and get into it.

        • Nadzieja Batki

          Dave H, the Dems will downplay the Clinton baggage. The true believers who vote Democrat also have very short memories.

      • Old Henry

        DaveH:

        Maybe so, but who is going to drag it up? The MSM?

        • DaveH

          We will, Henry.

  • Gayle

    I have never been a fan of the clinton’s. I’ve been reading a lot of negative about hillary and people will remember her share in the middle east messes, I hope. But she has been wise to stay out of sight lately. She is in lock-step with obama.

    • Charles bond

      You are right and Hillery said out of her own moth thae,she is a progressive. How much differance in a socialist and a progressive ?

      • denniso

        Oh no!!!! Hillary actually called herself a ‘PROGRESSIVE’!!!! I would bet that if you waterboarded her she would admit to being a ‘LIBERAL as well!!

        Can you people really be as ignorant than you appear to be? Do you want to live in a country where you are only allowed to have approved political views? You don’t even know what these labels mean and yet you are willing to villify Americans who hold views different from you. You don’t even know what ‘Socialism’ is and you are terrified of the term like it’s the pretend Devil. You want to demonize any political view that you don’t understand because you are blindly following idiots like Limbaugh and Savage who are scaring you w/ words. I doubt that you are as ignorant and fearful as these sorts of comments make you sound,because most humans have the ability to think more than you appear to be doing.

        • FreedomFighter

          You and I are told increasingly that we have to choose between a left or right, but I would like to suggest that there is no such thing as a left or right. There is only an up or down–up to a man’s age-old dream, the ultimate in individual freedom consistent with law and order–or down to the ant heap totalitarianism, and regardless of their sincerity, their humanitarian motives, those who would trade our freedom for security have embarked on this downward course.–Ronald Reagan

          A progressive is a socialist Communist hell bent on totlitarianism…it should be feared in America.

          Laus Deo
          Semper Fi

        • Vagabond

          there you go again denniso, you just wont leave us alne,

        • hawkeye

          To Denniso….are you a member of the al-CIA-da that other “scary” word that this government uses to pass all these takeover-your-humanrights laws? I guess you get paid a good salary to come on here and “poison” the people with your oh it’s harmless talk. Nobody is listening to you. You lose.

        • Kate8

          denniso – No one has a corner on ignorance (it’s part of the current human condition due to the mind-control matrix), but you surely stand out.
          ————

          Communism: A system of government in which the state plans and controls the economy and a single, often authoritarian party holds power, claiming to make PROGRESS toward a “higher” social order…

          The real classlessness of citizens in a communist regime is found not in their having similar economic situations, but in their having minds that have been created by the state, and where those minds are all virtually identical…a human or mental classlessness–a classlessness of the human spirit–where the spontaneity and diversity of humans is stripped, and the people all become very similar to one another, in their desires, dreams, thoughts, language, preferences, apearance, education…

          American corporatist (communistic) classnesses involves the idea that Americans are taught, and urged to believe that, “we’re all just equal”: the black, the white, ther rich, the poor, the Arab and the Jew, we’re all just equal people–so long as we all think alike, and think permissible thoughts… CORPORATISM, Jeffrey Grupp.
          ___________________________________

          Except for the ruling elite, of course. They are godlike, and not subject to our “equality”.

          You know, like Hill and Bill, and Barack and Michelle. And Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid…(I name those on the Left because they stand out in my mind. There are many on the Right, as well.)

        • DaveH

          Denniso,
          You should teach a course on How to Influence People to Think Opposite of You.
          Why do you think your adolescent manipulative tactics would work on any reasonable adults? You need to go hang out with the middle-schoolers, they would idolize you.

          • JeffH

            …so true, so true…

          • Old Henry

            DaveH::

            Wouldn’t we then have to get the overloaded DCFS involved?

          • denniso

            Where are the ‘reasonable’ people???

          • http://donthaveone Beberoni

            They are right here in front of you denniso, but like a typical liberal, you are blind and deaf to the truth. The reasonable are DaveH, JoeH, Beberoni, Kate8, Angel Wannabe, and a few others, sorry if I missed you. Wake up denniso, put your agenda away and start paying attention man. Its getting serious.

        • Dan az

          Oh please old wise one tell us what we should think!I keep this picture as a screen saver just of you seeking your just knowledge and wishing for you to appear and speak to us daily.Thank you for your enlightenment oh great thinker.Dennso your my masta!

          • http://?? Joe H.

            Dan az,
            My vision isn’t what it used to be, but if that is what i think it is, I have to ask where you got the picture of denniso looking for eyes!!!

          • Dan az

            Brother Jeff
            Mine either!I wish the boxes were a little bigger,but yes that is dennso just before you here that popping sound. :)

        • http://donthaveone Beberoni

          denniso, do yourself a favor, and all of us, and read the book “Hell to pay”. Then tell me how you can stand up for Hillary and Billy Clinton.

        • Jay

          Liberals believe that men–left to their own devices–are not to be trusted. They also believe in the goodness of government; a government composed of men. This paradox may help explain why many liberals are angry much of the time.”
          –RE Bierce

      • Old Henry

        Charles:

        Liberal, Socialist, Progrssive.

        There are several ways to spell Communist.

        • JeffH

          OH, I prefer to lump them all together…Marxist/socialist/communist/progressive…liberals are like a box of chocolates…you never know what yer gonna get…

          • Kate8

            JeffH – Except that they are all full of fruits and nuts…

          • JeffH

            Kate8… :) yepper!

          • Dan az

            :)

          • Old Henry

            JeffH:

            LOL! Dats a good one! I was just trying to keep it simple enough so they could understand it…

          • denniso

            you guys were funny I might actually laugh w/ you. Are you trying to sound as juvenile as possible? It’s working!

          • denniso

            IF you guys were funny…

          • JeffH

            Nope! We’re just having a good chuckle at your expense denisso.

          • Dan az

            :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :)

          • denniso

            Well, isn’t that cute!! Are you guys actually little girls?

          • Jay

            What’s the matter denniso, are you jealous? Can’t find, and can’t make any friends of your own? You lonely, sad, little man!

          • denniso

            Do you really have to be so juvenile?

  • Robin from Arcadia, IN

    What are the chances that Barry decides not to run, just to enable Hillary to run? It probably will depend on the payoff… Soros will take care of his boy, no doubt. Hillary will be another puppet.

    • Randy Huffey

      Robin,
      I think you have it right! Obama has been campaigning for 6 months. Any money (probably $3-$5 hundred million already donated to his campaign) he will walk off with and keep! Payoff enough? Maybe. Like you said SOROS is the “boss” of both Hillary and Obama so he will make the call. There won’t be any messy, expensive “challenge” from Hillary either. Obama will stay letting the republicans spend a bunch of money to defeat him, then announce he isn’t running. Soros will wait until as late as he can to bring out Hillary to minimize the time republicans have to expose Hillary as a Marxist/Communist and Soros puppet!

      • Old Henry

        Randy:

        Good post, but Little Barry has been campaigning for four years and counting.

    • Lawrence

      When Soros is done with Barry, he will probably just kick him to the curb as he will no longer be useful.

    • Old Henry

      Robin:

      Being the narcissist to the core that he is the only way Little Barry will not run is if he is “made to understand” the, ah, peril he would face.

      That is when he wets the Teleprompter.

    • http://donthaveone Beberoni

      I think he is too prideful and arrogant to read the writing on the wall. If he ever walked away, they would have to be giving him one hell of a lot of money. One hell of a lot of money.

  • Stunned at sunset

    I hope people remember that she brow-beat her husband into hiring Janet Reno for Attorney General. A lot of people got killed after that.

    • mark

      Yes but nothing compared to the hundreds of thousands Bush and Cheney slaughtered in Iraq.

      • AnhydrousBob

        Yeah, and nothing compared to the near million slaughtered by Bush & Bush & Clinton & Obama in Somalia, Libya, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Iraq, Egypt.

      • ValDM

        And the beat goes on, mark. How many are STILL dying there & other places thanks to the O’boy’s policies????

        • Kinetic1

          ValDM,
          I’ll give you Libya, but how do you just pick up and leave Afghanistan and Iraq? Bush got us in deep on two fronts, toppled governments and tried to replace them with friendly puppets. So far it hasn’t worked very well. So what was Obama to do? Should he have pulled our troops out on day one with full knowledge that the terrorists would step in and take over? Iraq was more stable and controllable under Sadam than it would ever be if Al Qaeda stepped in, but Bush just had to get the man who threatened his daddy.

          It’s easy to play arm chair quarterback, but the President has to consider our nation’s responsibility for the past administration’s mistakes when making these tough decisions. I want us out ASAP, but I understand the desire to try and stabilize things before we pull out. Still, I’m afraid that it will end badly no matter how long we wait, but then I don’t have all the information that our government has. Our military leaders want Obama to take it slower, the people want him to move faster. I just wish someone would have controlled Bush’s desire to be a “war President”.

          • DaveH

            “how do you just pick up and leave Afghanistan and Iraq?”.

            The same way, Kinetic, that they just picked up and got into Afghanistan and Iraq. Just do it.
            How do you justify continuing an immoral war? Throwing good lives after lost lives just doesn’t cut it.

          • Kinetic1

            Dave,
            The problem is that we jumped into a country that had a system of government in place and we broke it. I agree that they are both immoral wars and neither our soldiers nor their civilians should be lost to satisfy some politician’s desire, but now we bear responsibility for all the chaos we have brought them. I don’t know that we can do anything to fix what we broke and maybe we’ve tried long enough. All I know is that the decision to start these two wars has made a mess of things both here at home and abroad.

        • Old Henry

          Kinetic1:

          As I recall Little Barry campaigned on getting out of there by the end of 2009.

          • Kinetic1

            OH,
            And that is one of several areas where President Obama has disappointed me. I don’t know where you guys got the idea that I support every decision Obama has made, but I don’t. I just don’t believe that McCain/Palin would have been a better answer.

          • Dan az

            kenitic
            Things are about to come crashing down on all of them and I feel that the only one can fill the slot is RP because we will just continue this downward trend if we don’t stop bickering about who might be ok.Its just not good enough this time.Whether you think he is good enough or not he still stands by the constitution and has not deviated once.Is this not the best choice?

      • Old Henry

        mark:

        How about the millions FDR murdered in Europe? How about the millions JBJ murdered in Nam? How about the many thousnds that died due to dick-for-brains inaction? How about the thousands that have been killed by BHO in Libiya, Pakistan, Iraq, Afghanistan? (Remember those two wars he pledged to extricate us from by the end of 2009?)

        • Kinetic1

          Old Henry,
          So you would have had FDR stand back and let Hitler run roughshod over Europe? Were we supposed to ignore the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor? Bush responded to a terrorist attack by first attacking the country that we thought was the base for the terrorists, then turned his attention from his stated goal and waged war on a nation that had nothing to do with those terrorists. How can you, in all good conscience equate the two?

          • DaveH

            Kinetic,
            Were you aware that we were allied with Japan in WWI?
            Were you aware that 80% of the population didn’t want to become involved with WWII? Were you aware that FDR lied to the public for at least a year before the Pearl Harbor attack about his real intentions to get involved in Europe?
            Read this Free online book, and learn the truth:
            http://mises.org/books/pearl_harbor_greaves.pdf

          • DaveH

            Were you aware that virtually every war we’ve become involved with has been the result of a “false flag” event?
            http://911review.com/articles/anon/false_flag_perations.html

          • Kinetic1

            DaveH,
            Yes, I was aware of the issues you mentioned. But allied or not, Japan struck Pearl Harbor. Do you think that everything would have been ok if FDR had listened to the majority and let Germany take over Europe? Maybe Russia would have stopped them, or maybe Hitler’s army would have grown strong enough to bring the war to our shores.

            The idea that FDR and his administration would allow the attack on Pearl is hard to take, even if it was to convince American’s to support the war, but at least it was a genuine enemy and a genuine threat. As you have alluded to in your second post, 9/11 brought us neither and should be investigated. Given the latest evidence it doesn’t sound like it would paint a pretty picture.

        • Amy

          So we should have left Germany take over Europe and Japan take over the USA?

          • DaveH

            We know that Hitler was evil. But we also know that Stalin was evil. We sided with Stalin and even allowed Russia to occupy many of the misfortunate victim countries of Hitler’s aggression. Similar to what’s occurring right now in Libya.
            What a deal. We fight to supposedly save Europe and then turn many of the European countries over to the wolves.
            We sided with a Communist country, and against a country (Japan) whose main concern was to stop the Communists. Kind of a crazy mixed-up mess like wars usually are.
            80% of the citizens in 1940 were against US involvement in that war.
            Read the book I linked to above. Shed the blinders, Amy. Don’t let the propagandizers get away with what they did to you. Learn some truth.

          • Old Henry

            And DaveH, FDR referred to Stalin as “Uncle Joe”. Like he was some benevolent old man.

            Come to think of it that is probably how FDR viewed the mass-murdering Stalin whol made Hitler look like a Boy Scout.

        • Old Henry

          Kinetic1:

          I don’t think I said anything about the Japs. They attacked us – with FDR’s help – and we, to use some liberal phrasology, took the sons of bitches out.

          However, Germany / Itally did nothing to us. Why was it our business? FDR had to come up with a way to end the Depression after all his failed first 2-1/2terms and he saw a way to do that by creating his meat-grinder and sacrificing thousands upon thousands of young men and women.

      • JeffH

        .mark, mark, mark..boring…yawns! Polly want a cracker? bbbaaarrraaakkk!

      • DaveH

        So, let me get this straight, Mark. You’re okay with 27 children as well as many more adults being murdered because Bush murdered people with his involvements in the Middle East?
        http://www.cato.org/pubs/pas/pa395.pdf

        So, I guess, with Mark, murder is no longer immoral because other people have done it in the past?

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        Hundreds of thousands? Really. Wow.

        • DaveH
          • http://donthaveone Beberoni

            Like this very report says, the Iraqi deaths are unknown just what is being told by reporters. If they are anything like our reports, where 5000 people show up for a speech and they say there were 200,000 people there, I see the numbers being quite askew. Also, they are, and have been, and will after we leave, been killing each other by the thousands because of the sikh, shite, bathe muslim thing, where they kill over different variances in their belief system. And did you notice that one column said over a million, yet others said 150,000. It could actually be 50,000. Or it could be 100,000. But for the poster to have said the “hundreds of thousands” Bush and Cheney slaughter, is quite a lie. And when they raise their arms against you and declare death to you, what do you propose, stick your head in the sand and act like it didnt happen? We either stop them now, or at least let them know we are capable of stopping them, or 9-11 will become a weekly thing in this country. And I dont think anyone except the muslim terrorists wants that. You cannot pacify and appease them Dave, sorry, you just cant. They have said, in many many ways, and in many forms, that they will kill us and that they will not stop trying to kill us until they are dead or we are dead. Now give Dave, I dont like war, I detest it. But I moreso detest terrorists running around free and blowing up innocent victims here on our soil. If it means going over there to get them to stop it, then so be it. But if you sit on your ands and do nothing, as evidence heavily by the Clinton admin who did nothing again and again and again, look what happens – 9-11. We empower them by doing nothing, and by Clinton turning his head and sticking it in the sand over and over, these guys became emboldened and thought we would just keep taking it so they stepped it up and blew up the damn World Trade Centers. I dont know about you Dave, but I for one along with millions of others, havent forgotten and I still feel the pain of it. It is the low point of this country to me, and I fully hold Bill Clinton and his administation the cause of it, for doing nothing during all their previous bombings. Bush wasnt perfect, heck man, he is a politician,but I applaud him being a man and standing up and taking the fight to them. Problem is, his time came and went, and the guys runnin it now dont have the same goals of stopping the enemy, they have the goal of how can we cut and run and not look bad, but make the other party look bad. Unfortunately, that is what is has come down do. We have lost our way in this war now, and I agree with you now that it is time to get out. But it was well worth going in, and if you dont agree, then thats ok, your entitled to your opinion, as I am mine, and like men we will have to agree to disagree. Im not going the way of denniso and assaulting you and calling names, as Im not ignorant and stupid like that. I find you a highly intelligent, well thought out guy, and if we dont agree, so what, life goes on. But we can have intelligent conversations without bashing each other, and I think that is where wisdom comes from, sharing different ideas, without insisting your right and the other guy is wrong. Just my opinions, for right or wrong.

      • Jay

        60% of U.S. Military Deaths in Afghanistan Have Occurred Since Obama Was Inaugurated in 2009
        By Edwin Mora
        April 4, 2011
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        U.S. soldiers on patrol in the volatile Arghandab Valley, Kandahar, Afghanistan, on Monday, July 26, 2010. (AP Photo/Rodrigo Abd)

        (CNSNews.com) – At least 858 U.S. soldiers have died in the Afghanistan war since President Barack Obama took office in January 2009. That equals 60 percent of the 1,427 American soldiers killed so far in the 10-year war in that country.

        In March 2011, there were 26 U.S. military deaths in Afghanistan, including 4 non-combat related fatalities. That brought the total combat and non-combat deaths for 2011 (January, February, and March) to 70. Those fatalities include 57 combat-related deaths and 13 non-combat deaths.

        Of the 858 U.S. deaths since Obama’s inauguration, 791 have been combat-related. This means that for the 1,241 combat-related deaths that occurred since the Afghanistan war began in October 2001, about 64 percent happened in the two years since Obama took office.

        Last year was the deadliest for U.S. forces in Afghanistan, with 497 combat and non-combat fatalities. Improvised explosive devices (IEDs), or homemade bombs, continue to be the number one killer of U.S. soldiers in Afghanistan.

        The Afghan provinces of Helmand and Kandahar, which border Pakistan and have been the central focus of U.S. military operations in recent years, continue to be the deadliest regions for American soldiers.

        • Dan az

          Jay
          Good job but I was hoping you would have also put in when the UN took charge and made us liable to the world court and set the ground rules on how we fought back.The time line would probably coincide with when Obumer chaired the UN illegally according to our constitution.I know I ask for allot but hey who better to ask?

    • Old Henry

      Stunned at Sunset:

      If we have “Return of the Whte Trash” many more will be killed. What we saw before was a warm-up, or a practice run.

  • Wolff Bachner

    let us not forget while Israel is being shredded this week at the UN thanks to Obama, Hillary will be meeting with the OIC (Organization of Islamic cooperation) to try to find a way to push their “don’t criticize Islam” law through the UN despite the first amendment in the USA. She is ever the absolute trator and shill for Islam.

    • mark

      Don’t give one more red cent of American taxpayer money to Israel the most prosperous country in the Middle East.

      • Deep Sea

        Mark: And not one red cent to any other country in the world, either. End ALL foreign aid, end these interventionist foreign wars, bring ALL our sons and daughters home, and close ALL our imperial overseas military bases. Put our soldiers on OUR border to defend America from invasion.
        There’s bridges and roads in this country that need repair, why are we sending soldiers to blow up, then rebuild bridges in Iraq? Why are we still footing the bill for the defence of Europe and Japan? And while I’m on a rant, let’s terminate our membership in the UN and kick everyone of them out, quit NATO, and End The Federal Reserve Bankster scam while we’re at it. Way to go Mark, I knew you libs would come around some day!! Ron Paul 2012!

        • Al Sieber

          Deep Sea, I’ll second that.

        • AnhydrousBob

          Yay, Mark, I second Deep Sea

          • Old Henry

            Hey folks. It’s mark (small m) Mark (bigM)is on our side.

        • Buddy

          Hear, hear!

        • Vagabond

          Deep Sea. finaly. someone came up with a damned good post. I agree with you 150%,

        • Old Henry

          Yep Deep SEa, borrow BILLIONS from communists to give it away so our grandkids can bbe taxed into oblivion to pay it back.

          You are sooo CORRECT!

          Sent the UN to Peking.

          • http://?? Joe H.

            OH,
            And let THEM pay 60% Of their yearly operating costs!!!

        • JeffH

          Hear Hear!

        • http://Personalliberty Tony

          To Deep Sea:
          Right on bro!! Excellent post, we as a nation need to work on our infrastructure. Not only our roads plus bridges also our mass transportation. If the Chinese can have high speed rail in their
          countryside and light rail even in their small towns then we as a nation can do the same. So, again, great post.
          Next to the person who says that the U.S. is going against Isreal need to brush up on reading. The U.S. is one of very few nations that
          are taking Isreal’s side when coming to authorizing a Palestianian state. Get the facts straight.
          Finally, when coming to Hitlery Sillary Thunder thighs as president,
          forget about it. If you’ll think it’s bad under Obama, if she got in
          power you would see anything yet. For example, in her regime, websites
          such as this one would be outlawed. Therefore, be grateful with what we have right now. Thanks!!

        • DaveH

          Deep Sea,
          “why are we sending soldiers to blow up, then rebuild bridges in Iraq?”

          Because that’s the only thing that Government does well — destroying wealth.

      • Robin from Arcadia, IN

        Mark.. You are so wrong. We need to stand firm with Israel. We will need Israel to defend us, not the other way around. We are allies and we should remain allies.

        • Angel Wannabe

          Robin, Hear Hear!__ If Israel Falls, America falls!

          • http://donthaveone Beberoni

            Amen brother. Those of us who know Him, know this to be true. Genesis 12:3

        • mark

          Israel is the WORST ally America has ever had. They have turned the whole Arab World against us with their constant land stealing at the point of a gun and their illegal occupation of other people’s homes. I am deeply ashamed as an American that my country supports Israel. One of the main reasons we are paying $3.60 a gallon for gasoline is Israel. Our mindless 100% support for them led to OPEC and Arab oil blackmail we face everyday.

          • SunnieD

            … and what planet did you fall from?? Obviously, your view of current events (never mind history! is more than a little skewed! It’s been the Middle East that has been on the attack – and has been for centuries! Wake up and/or pull your head out so that you can see the facts as they stand!

          • FreedomFighter

            Islam converts or kills, it is the religion of hate. They enslave and mutilate there women, they are constantly killing christians and others that dont convert.

            You cant read a current paper or news outlet that does not have story of some Islamic bombing, killing or maiming someone.

            They dont even like dogs, mankinds best friend, they are a disease.

            “A rising leader in the radical Islamic movement in Egypt that has become a major political player since the demise of Hosni Mubarak’s regime says Christian churches may need to be blown up and Christians exterminated to allow the advance of Islamic law, or Shariah.”

            Read more: ‘Exterminate Christians, close pyramids, Sphinx’

            http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=339305#ixzz1YVKPVcKf

            Laus Deo
            Semper Fi

          • Angel Wannabe

            Freedom Fighter, Well Said!

          • Mountain Saint

            Israel is the only friend that we have in the Middle East. It’s your Arab president in the White House who has been turning secular governments in Africa and Middle East into Jidahists determined to annihilate the Jewish people. God won’t tolerate it and He is already sending trouble our way, thanks to Obama (Genesis 12:3)

          • Vagabond

            mark you should put down the KOOL AID,

          • Old Henry

            Now FreedonFighter, Ragheads have a good sie. They do like women and thin every man should own at least 4 or 5.

            As Foxworthy says, If you have more wives than teeth, you might be a Muslim. If you wipe your butt with your hand and think bacon is impure, you might be a Muslim.

          • JeffH

            mark, did you conveniently forget that the Holy Land of Jerusalem, which, prior to its “conquest by Islam” in the 7th century, was an integral part of Christendom for nearly 400 years. The Muslim/Islam jihad slaughtered the jJews and stole the land, not the way you believe through your revisionist history.

            Turned the Arab world against the US? Muslims/Islam are the most violent war mongers in history. They hate anyone that is not of thier religion and are required to kill the non-believers.

            Famous Muslim scholar Ibn Khaldun, who is revered in the West for his “progressive” insights, also puts to rest the notion that jihad is “defensive” warfare:

            In the Muslim community, the holy war [jihad] is a religious duty, because of the universalism of the Muslim mission and the obligation to convert everybody to Islam either by persuasion or by force…The other religious groups did not have a universal mission, and the holy war was not a religious duty for them, save only for purposes of defense… They are merely required to establish their religion among their own people. That is why the Israeilites after Moses and Joshua remained unconcerned with royal authority [e.g. a "caliphate"]. Their only concern was to establish their religion [not spread it to the nations]… But Islam is under obligation to gain power over other nations (The Muqudimmah, vol. 1 pg. 473).
            http://www.meforum.org/2105/judeo-christian-violence-vs-islamic-violence

          • Kinetic1

            How many of you who are criticizing mark’s views can name any reason to support Israel that isn’t based in religion? Christian faith is not a basis for American foreign policy. Most of our nation’s laws that mirror the Ten Commandments are based on rules of common good held long before Christianity made it’s way to Europe. There are a myriad of reasons to support laws against murder, theft and assault, none of which depend on the Bible for justification, but every time a Christian denounces criticism of Israel as tempting the wrath of God they put into question the basis for our nation’s support of the Jewish state. Given the cost of this support, both in dollars and jobs, and the effects of our support, (remember, it was Nixon’s decision to send arms to Israel that started the oil embargo that would later haunt Carter’s Presidency) what good reasons do you have other than your religious convictions?

          • DaveH

            Some history on the middle east:
            http://www.fff.org/comment/com0501i.asp

            We need to butt out of other countries’ politics and mind our own while we still can.

          • http://donthaveone Beberoni

            They have turned the Arab nation against us? Are you totally nuts or what? Israel is the country of God’s chosen people. Though they are mostly secular there, and dont believe in Jesus Christ, this is pretty much while they are still persecuted to this day. All though the Bible mark, you will see where God’s people rallied to Him, then they became disobediant and were handed over to an enemy. Then a leader would rise, and they would return to God, as he always saves a remnant of them to carry on. To this day, they are disobediant to Him, seeking to ignore Christ, and trying to do the man thing, praying their way into heaven, doing this and doing that, and its all worthless. There is nothing we can do to inherit eternal life in Heaven. It was all done for us, when Jesus Christ spread his arms and said “I love you this much”, and took the nails for us. All we have to do is ask Him into our lives, and that is the only way. We cant do the work to get there, He did it for us. Now the United States is the biggest Christian nation in the world, but our numbers are falling more and more, as people are becoming more reliant on themselves and wasting their lives chasing after money, making it their God. The more we move away from God, the more His hand will be removed from us. And the day we remove our blessings from Israel, God’s blessing will be removed from us, and we will be done. Of course, you can think of yourself as wise and above all this, but like all of us, one day you will get to bow down in front of Him and tell Him what you think as you give an account of yourself to Him. Good luck telling Him your way is better. Yeah, good luck with that, ok.

          • denniso

            The Jews are ‘God’s chosen people’ yet they don’t believe in the ‘son of God’?? Does your god have problems communicating with his ‘chosen people’?

        • Vagabond

          So very true Robin. Israel is the only true allie we have in the mideast,

        • denniso

          Israel has only existed for about 65 yrs,in the middle of the Arab countries…why didn’t we ‘fall’ before they were given land that belonged to someone else?

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        The minute we turn our back and remove our hand from Israel, we are done pal. Its pretty simple. We walk away, and we toast. I suggest we dont try God on this one. Think what you will, but I guarantee you, your arms arent long enough to box with God.

    • Old Henry

      And Wolff, the Jews will vote for either Hilly or Barry in droves come 2012.

      • http://?? Joe H.

        OH,
        That is changing!! There was a report tonight that said the Jewish vote is abandoning Nobummer in droves due to his treatment of Israel!!

        • Old Henry

          Well JoeH, I hope that is true because they were complicit in helping to elect a Little Hitler in 2008.

  • Shan

    The so called “HillBillies” were not the first “two for the price of one political combo.” Ma and Pa Ferguson were the first. When James Ferguson was impeached as the governor of Texas in 1917 and declared ineligible to run for office in Texas again, his wife, Miriam A. “Ma” Ferguson ran under the ticket of “two governors for the price of one” quite openly. She was the first female governor of Texas.

    • jbird

      Same thing with George and Lurleen Wallace in Alabama in the 60s.

    • Old Henry

      Good history lesson Shan. Thank you.

  • http://donthaveone Beberoni

    There is no way in hell the democrats will make Obama step aside to run Hillary, because if they do this, they will lose the black vote, and they wont do anything to damage their masquerade of being the black mans friend, allthough they have never done anything for the black population. In fact, it seems they are the very guys that want to keep giving them these little hand outs to keep them down and “in their place” as they call it. They are the black populations worse enemy, but they for some reason have not realized this yet. But I would guarantee you, that if Obama had white skin, they would most likely already have announced he isnt seeking re-election. But they will not do anything to damage their “high” standing with the black voting base out there. And Obama is to arrogant and prideful to even think about stepping aside. I just dont see it happening. And also I might add, I believe America knows who Hillary Clinton is by now and the more and more that is getting exposed about the damning things Bill did to this country, would keep Americans from ever electing her as president. Maybe I just have more faith in the American public, as I think Obama has opened up eyes and revealed the democratic left for who they really are, and America doesnt like it one bit.

    • Captain Mike

      What Demos will not risk is loosing the White House. If it looks bad, OHB can “take the high road” and decline to run – why should he risk it? He can play the victim, then high-tail it to the leftist elite with his pension, expenses, Secret Service, etc for life. SPeaking fees and book deals out the wazoo. Leading the Progressive Left World Governmen(UN). OH, and what about his campaign warchest? He can’t spend it personally, but he can dole out millions every year for the rest of his life to leftist politicians buying him influence beyond comare. And the giant sucking sound will be the CLintons getting drawn into the vacuum. Who else could get organized quickly enough? It’s a real nightmare. If OHB gets beaten in an open election, it will be ugly. The left has learned well. They will take their winnings from this wrecking ball and opt for gradualism, not confrontation. We will all be assimilated – resistance is futile.

    • Randy Huffey

      WRONG Beberoni!
      The democrats will gladly throw (about 1/2) of the black vote “under the buss” in exchange for the independent vote they would gain! At least 1/2 the blacks will still vote democratic with the Soros/democratic machine hauling them to the polls!

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        You think if they run Hillary they will get the Independant vote? I dont really think so. I do think the independant vote that goes to the Libertarians will take away from the Republican vote, maybe giving the democrats a win, but I dont think the independant vote will go to any democrat. People have seen what they are about, as Obama has exposed them. I really dont think people like what they see in them, and they connect Hillary to him.

        • Randy Huffey

          Independents like Hillary, she just polled as the “most respected” politician in america getting about a 65% approval rating. Scary?

          • http://donthaveone Beberoni

            Yes sir, that is one of the scariest things Ive ever heard. Hillary Clinton respected? How does that happen?

    • WaChar

      O’ will develop an “illness” and “have to step down for medical purposes”. Believe it.
      O’ will continue on his progressive ‘Destroy America’ agenda and so when Billery steps into office, ALL she will have to do is NOT revoke any of the Great O’s work.
      This is the perfect solution to the replacement of O’ and will destroy America just as fast as if he was still in office.
      Watch the next 11 months at what O’ does with Executive orders and having his czars continue in destructive policies.
      America either wins in 2012 or we fade into the death of such as Rome, Greece, etc. Rome’s catch words at the end was “Food and Circus”…does anyone else see any current similarities?
      ( say…foodstamps and “Reality TV”?)

      • hawkeye

        The elite and NWO people believe that the calendar and time ends on December 21, 2012 so they are trying to implement all their Agendas such as Agenda 21, and more before then. Also, they are trying to move as fast as they can to kill us off with all these swell sounding puffy words they use such as “sustainable”, etc. Here is a nice entry to check—->http://www.divinecosmos.com/start-here/davids-blog/975-undergroundbases Do Not Go Along With What They Are Doing,As Things Only Work Upon Agreement….There Are Way More Of Us Than There Are Of “Them”! We The People Against The NWO Elite Will Persist, And We Will Succeed!

        • Old Henry

          hawkeye:

          denniso says the NWO does not exist and ifn he says so, it is so.

          All is well. Breath deep. Sleep tight.

    • Vagabond

      Beberoni I too used to gave more faith in the Americanpeople. and I still do. the problem is.we have far too many none Americans voting now. wittness the last election,

    • Old Henry

      Beberoni:

      Here is a thought. It appears that the Solyndra “issue” is going to blow up in Little Barry’s lap. Could that be the dems way out? He may still insist on running, but when, ah, “the lay of the land” is ‘splained to him and then he wets the Telepromter and then steps aside.

      Whatcha think?

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        I think Barry is so arrogant, that if his party asked him to step aside, he would go on TV and tell it to American to exhonerate him and play the victim. After all, that is part of being a democrat, making yourself a victim. This is what they teach their followers, that your a victim. This is what I think could possible happen.

    • DaveH

      Good post, Beberoni. I agree. I think it’s going to be a long time before the people can trust the Dems again, and certainly the idea of them trusting Hillary (given her history) isn’t likely.

    • steve in AZ

      beberoni, seems like you forgot slick willie WAS our first black president? ;)

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        Thats how trashy he is, that he thinks because he likes the saxaphone that he is black. What a leper.

  • Sabulaman

    Clinton’s, Bush’s, 40 and 50 year congressman, it’s like kings and queens of the past. Let’s rid ourselves of this chrony insestual royalty. We need new blood.

  • Samantha

    It is very doubtful that Hillary will run against Obama. She has said many times that she has no interest in running, and I take her at her word. However, I wish she would. I am terribly disappointed in Obama. I expected strong leadership qualities from him, and instead we got a weak President who does not have the qualities to fight the Republicans. Bush destroyed our country and now Obama has weakened it even more. Sadly he inherited massive problems incurred by the Bush Administration, but also sadly, he lacked the leadership qualities to put the economy back on the right track. Unless we get very strong democratic candidate to run against Obama, there is no way I would vote for a Republican. They are the most destructive bunch of idiots and they would destroy the middle class even more than they have already been destroyed. I am vothing every Republican out of office with my vote in 2012, I hope Hillary runs, but if not, I would still vote for Obama.

    • Bob G

      Lordy, Lordy. You people just can’t shake that “It’s Bush’s fault syndrome.”

      • Al Sieber

        Yeah, they have to blame it on someone.

        • http://?? Joe H.

          Al Sieber,
          She thinks her vote is pretty powerful, too!!! She’s going to vote all of the repubs out of office with HER vote??? Dam man we need her on our side!! with her on our side, Ron Paul would be a shoo-in!!!

          • denniso

            Samantha…I agree w/ much of what you wrote,but we sane people need to cut Obama a little slack. I am disappointed in many things he’s done or not done,but nevertheless he looks like a genius statesman compared to Bush,who will go down in history as one of the worst presidents ever. Obama inherited the worst recession ever that could have been a terrible depression,and has a republican opposition that literally only cares about regaining power,and has put that single goal ahead of the welfare of the entire country…except for the interests of big biz and the oil/gas/military industries. Obama has been the subject of the most outrageous lies and smear campaigns maybe ever in our history,and that does have an effect in the real world of politics and what he can do. Probably the most important thing Obama has done was to appoint 2 smart and progressive women to the Supreme Court,and we still need him there for the next 4 yrs in case there are more appointments to be made.
            He also did save the country and the world from a total economic meltdown and depression that would have made this difficult time look like a picnic. He’s done several other things as well,though on a smaller level. The Repub campaign of lies and smears began before he even took office,and his support began crumbling early,partly because of it. W/o full support to hold off the stupid strategy of the rightwingers,he becomes weaker and then can do less…not to mention that the Repubs have made it clear they will do nothing to help the country if there’s a chance it could help Obama. He came into the worst political and economic situation ever in our history,w/ a party determined to destroy him even at the cost of the country,and still he’s had some accomplishments. The repubs stick w/ their leaders through thick and thin,remember the crimes of Nixon,Reagan,Bush,yet we sane people can be too demanding of our better leaders and pull support,opening up the possiblity of getting people like Bush or Pery or Palin in office. Please reconsider your disappointment in Obama and try to see the good he’s done. I know you’ll

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        Its cause he started that illegal war in Iraq that all the democrats voted for, and then he took all their oil.

        • Thinking About

          While we are in the blame game let us blame the democrats for the Iraq war (even though Republicians was in control of Congress) this was a war of choice made by Bush. Congress as a whole has to accept responsibility perhaps responding in a high emotional time and believing the lies being presented. Maybe we can also blame decisions on Republicians nominating GWB and for those who voted for him. We are in deep need of working together to and making this nation great again and the direction currently being taken by Obama administration and Congress is destruction. The path being promoted in post is not the right direction and will not happen.

          • http://deleted Claire

            Hil;lary voted for the Iraqi war and Obama voted against it. What a web they weave. What a web the Dems and the Repubs have spun.

    • S.C. Murf

      Hey Sam first off I think you made a wrong turn this morning, secondly its time to make that popping sound

      up the hill
      airborne

      • Al Sieber

        Right on Murf!!

        • Old Henry

          Al, when I read your post I felt like I had a speech impedemant.

      • Old Henry

        S.C. Murf:

        LOL!

    • don the canuck

      Amazing how in the U.S., everything is about splitting the people into two parties. All I evber see is Reps bithcing at Dems, and Dems bitching at Reps, while in Washington, both parties are talking about how well their golf game went. Does anyone really think these guys do not talk to each other while they find new ways to bilk the American public out of their money? At what point does the American populace wakre up and start thinking about changing the “5 monkeys” (look it up) once and for all?

      Stop fighting each other and start realizing that both parties are wrong. Think about it………these are your best and brightest and they cannot even balance a budget? You allow them to take away your rights and liberties and you all spend your time fighting each other instead of fighting them?

      I guess the real problem is indeed not the politicians,but more so the people. No one to blame but yourselves. you have a document that was specifically written to protect you from these guys, and here you are voting for people who stomp all over that document and then tell you that it is for your own good.

      Talk about gullible………..wow. I ceertainly hope that my American friends wake up soon and take their country back, but that will never happen until they realize that they have to stick together instead of fighting each other. America was not built on handouts, or social programs. It was built on blood sweat and tears. Everyone got lazy all of a sudden? Well, if this continues, y’all better start learning Mandarin, cause you are going to need it. The Chinese are doing the blood sweat and tears now. Too bad. Two dogs fighting, and a third runs away with the bone. Not a good feeling when you see your neighbours to the South in this predicament. Not a good feeling at all.

      • Ormore

        don, I am an American, and you couldn’t have said it better. Divide and conquer has worked since the beginning of time to take over countries. I think both parties are right or their both wrong, but if they were to work together, they would probably find out that they have more in common than they think which is supposed to be for the good of the American people. But, from what I’m seeing, in congress and by what’s written above, maybe they aren’t even in congress for the good of the American people. Ya THINK? DUH! I, for one, would love to see the American people, as one, kick this entire govt out of Wash D.C. and never allow any of them to run for a public office again, anywhere, any time, any place.

    • Old Henry

      If she doesn’t run Samantha the Dykes on Bikes are gonna riot and tazer us all with their vibrators…

    • http://donthaveone Beberoni

      Hey Samantha, how did Bush destroy our country. Seems he took us out of a major recession, had the economy running good, until his last year when everyone know Obummer was coming in. Under him jobs were at an alltime high, unemployment was at an all time low, and the stock market was at an all time high. He left office with a 4.6 percent unemployment rate, and Obama has spiked that to a reported 10 percent, yet we all know its more closer to 12 to 15 percent. Obama has illegally started a third war, while losing his direction in the other two, has lost millions of jobs, and has spent us into oblivion, with nothing to show for it but more debt. And yet, you can spin this into blaming it on Bush???? Simply amazing Samantha. How do you sleep at night? Doesnt the lying bother you at all? Wow!

      • denniso

        We had a minor recession in Bush’s first yr,not a major one. Bush didn’t have the brains to look into the CIA report handed off to Condi Rice from the Clinton administration,’bin Ladden plans to strike inide the U.S.’

        Bush doubled our debt by starting two wars that he didn’t finish,giving millionaires a tax break,and pushing through the Medicare drug plan unpaid for. Bush was a virtual idiot and did nothing right. People and the press gave him several yrs of a pass because of 9/11,when they should have hounded him out of office.

  • Angel Wannabe

    Not a fan of either of the Clintons!__

    I’m under the impression that “middle-of-road” or “Centrists” were the ones to watch carefully. They claim being a moderate, but swiftly move left when the election is over and are far more dangerous hiding behind the name, than the openly leftists._
    I complained the other day about campaigning on special interest groups. With that said, and at the risk of sounding hypocritcal, I believe if Hillary ran she’d garner the sympathy female vote, simply because she seems to have over come, Billy Boys cigar scandel with Lewinski while in the White House. She’d run on strength and the ability to overcome.
    I agree with Gayle above, that she is definately in lock step with Obama and will finish the destruction of the US that Obama started.

    • JeffH

      :) They’re just wolves in sheeps clothing right now…waiting for the right moment to strike.

    • S.C. Murf

      The Clinton’s are immoral murders, bottom line. We don’t need more of the same bull$hit we’ve been handed for years

      up the hill
      airborne

  • Janice Fortin

    The Hill and the Bill, together Hillbillies – very cute but not very accurate. When you think of 2 for the price of one……whoa….that is one heavy price to pay! No bargain. Hillcare and NAFTA BILL – neither were for Americans. uh uh and just remember who was the official of the USA who broadcasted in a foreign country that her president was bringing AZ to COURT…..this before AMERICA was informed. So we don’t need hillcare of the NAFTbill …..and that doesn’t even touch the blatant immoral scandals president bill shrugged off as one of his benefits. NO CLINTONS IN OUR WHITE HOUSE.
    It was rumored hill was retiring due to ill health. Or was it just panic that wikkileake would leak something very unAmerican old hill said? Notice: she flew over there in sheer panic. something to hide from us citizens? Bill not for USA UH UH. Never been. Ck out his role in the housing flop. The American Dream – pul-lease. We Americans have worked mighty hard to realize even a portion of it and we’re not spreading the wealth to those who won’t fight for their own country.THE GUMBALL PRESENTATION would stop immigration in its tracks by all who see that wonderful demonstration. Revenge? First the revenge of the blacks, then the hillbillies? COME. FOLLOW ME. AMERICA DESERVES A LEADER WITHOUT “REVENGE”. bOTH OF THOSE PARTIES GOT MORE FROM AMERICA THAN IT EVER EVER EVER GAVE! OUT THE DOOR.
    2012: APPRECIATE AMERICA YEAR

  • http://aol.com sean murrey ILLIniois

    To me the clintons are white trash not an elite couple and a couple of crooks.

  • nw

    Trailer trash! Let’s not forget Vince Foster and the over 30 people on their hit list who’ve committed suicide by homicide.

    • mark

      Right 30 dead under Clinton versus the 200,000 human beings Bush and Cheney killed in Iraq and Afghanistan.

      • Bob G

        And the proud people with blue thumbs? Jesus died for your sins and the American military dies for the freedom and happiness of suppressed people. We didn’t steal their oil and we don’t run their country. Dictators and despots do that. Get you head on straight.

        • mark

          Jesus didn’t die for my sins. He was killed by the military. The Roman military. And like militaries everywhere all they do is kill, while talking about freedom and how they are helping everyone. But what they really do in the vast majority of cases, is kill other human beings.

          • Nadzieja Batki

            Mark, you are a wolf carrying on that there are Sheepdogs(US Military)around.

          • DaveH

            And if we let the Liberal Socialists take our country any further to the left it will be repeated in our own country. As have gone the Socialist purges throughout history.

          • http://donthaveone Beberoni

            Yes Mark, He did die for your sins. And the military didnt kill him, you and I did with our sins. You can blame the Romans, and you can blame the Jewish leaders, and you can blame Judas Iscariot, or whomever you want. When the facts are, man disobeyed God, ate from the tree of life, the one thing we were told not to do, and sin entered the world. And when sin entered, death entered. Jesus defeated death and offers us life by believing in Him. And yes, I know this for a fact, because I took that step of faith, and something happened mark. I remember often reading and hearing about having eyes but not seeing, and having ears but not hearing, and about having your eyes and ears opened. When I took that step, and told Him I needed Him in my life, I found out what that meant, as my eyes and ears were opened, and now I see things much, much clearer and hear things I didnt before. Its all anew is all I can say. Yet, I still remain a lowly sinner, and always will be my friend, as long as I wear this flesh on my bones here on the earth. But there is more, so much more. And dont be so quick to demonize the military. Without them, you might very well be at the end of whip from some Arab right now, or be on a chopping block with a sword coming down on your neck. It is this very military you demonize that is saving you from this, and God willing, they will always be there for us. Just food for thought.

          • denniso

            How did Jesus die for your sins,when you weren’t even close to being born? Looks like you’re a little mixed up on how time and events flow. If I’m not mistaken,Jesus may have lived 2000 yrs ago and you were born maybe 70 yrs ago…do you need help w/ the math?

      • Angel Wannabe

        I have to hand it to you mark, you sheep followed the Alinsky smear tactics to a “T”! When Soro’s started his quest to smear Bush, just to make a virtual unknown Senator, (who’s only experience was a Community organizer, a Columbia University Marxist Graduate and a Senator for 151 days), look like he was a proverbial God, Congrats, you get a Gold Star on the chalk board today! :)

        • Dan az

          Angel
          I think it would be great that she ran against him,talk about splitting the votes.The poor sheep will never make up their minds which marxist they would prefer to have as a dictator.The one that has no clue or the one that was giving the orders to bubba to kill 80 men women and children of a church in waco,with illegal poison gas and burning the bodies to hide what they had done.Yes I can see why they would have a hard time making up their minds.Either way I see Ron Paul as a third party coming out on top.Go billary!!!

          • Angel Wannabe

            Dan Az, I thought that perhaps a third party may be in order for the future, but its too late to get it organized enough to be a part of 2012 election.
            Both sides left and right are so badly skewed, ya can’t tell them apart.Quite Frankly I beleive, If Soros buys the Bamster another term, we are a goner!

          • Dan az

            Angel
            He will pull out so she would take his votes and backers.He knows that he has lost any hope that the people haven’t figured out that when his cuts start showing up and they will all be in bread lines along with the middle class,He needs to leave quickly.And billarys health plan being obumers will put her on the chopping block instead of him.Sense it was her’s to begin with.The third party being RP as a republican that could run as a libertarian if need be makes sense,because no matter what the GOP will never consider him even if he won by a land slide.Its just not gunna happen!Perks are perks and they are not going to give them up.Either way I always felt that billary would run at the last moment and that would split the vote not only with the blacks but the illegals would also vote for her because of NAFTA being their pet project that set the stage for all of them in the first place.I feel now that RP will win because of this strategy.And you can see it right here with the libs and progs today!

          • JeffH

            Brother Dan, I’m not so sure Soros is behind Barry anymore…he’s never been afraid to hedge his bets. Afterall, he did dump Hillary for Barry once he realized Hillary couldn’t win the nomination. Besides, he’s still got the Dems and all of his organizations to carry on his agenda…Barry is just the figurehead…as they all have been.

            Don’t look for Hillary to openly seek the nomination, she’s too smart for that. The Dems will have to beg her to oppose Obama and then she would accept, but she’s not going to crawl…that would have a negative effect. :)

          • Dan az

            Brother Jeff
            I don’t know when I look at the picture of both them at the top it says to me that bubba is suggesting getting kinky in the old room in the White House and the look on her face says it all! ;) :)

          • JeffH

            Brother Dan, Hillary is so much more manly than Bill…maybe Bill’s into some man love now!

          • Dan az

            :)
            I guess the cigar trick works both ways! :)

        • No hope for America

          Maybe George Sorros should be taken out of the equasion. It could be the first action in the revolution that would be the only thing that would bring America back

      • Nadzieja Batki

        So it was all right for the 30 to die by Clinton’s decree.

      • S.C. Murf

        Bushes was war and Clinton’s was cover-up

        up the hill
        airborne

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        Dude, are you serious? Do you know how many people Clinton killed in Sarajevo, innocent people, when he went about lobbing bombs aimlessly in there, aiding in their ethnic cleansing? Get real. His and Hillarys murder list is higher than 30. Come on man, you know better than that.

  • SarahP-2012

    Best Idea I’ve Heard Yet:
    Sarah Palin updating her political affiliation to democxxx, and running in the 2012 primary.
    it would DEFINATELY keep the press busy (ALL OF IT)…

  • mark

    Another ludicrous article about something that will NEVER happen. Why do people waste their time with this?

    • ValDM

      If it’s such a waste of time, why are you here? Getting paid for making ridiculous comments?

      • FreedomFighter

        I think he is a Soros paid Lucy Tare also.

        Laus Deo
        Semper Fi

    • Dan az

      Mark
      I can see why your so scared,it would not only split the vote but it would insure the RP would win by a land slide!!!!To bad troll have a nice day! :)

      • mark

        More likely Ron Paul will run as an independent on the Libertarian ticket, split the vote by pulling 10% away from Perry or Romney and ensure a close win by Obama. This would be a tragedy and is much more likely to happen than Hilary challenging Obama in the democratic primaries. That is a complete right-wing pipe dream

        • DaveH

          What is it about Libertarians that scares you, Mark?
          It couldn’t be that we don’t want to be the World’s Policemen or build Empires?
          It couldn’t be that we would allow you to poison yourself as you please?
          It couldn’t be that we would allow you to gamble your fortune away or sleep with prostitutes?
          Just what is it that you don’t like about Libertarians? Oh yeah, we wouldn’t allow you to ride on the unwilling shoulders of others after you foolishly squandered your life away. That’s a big problem isn’t it, for you wanna-be slaveholders?

    • CJ

      “Another ludicrous article about something that will NEVER happen. Why do people waste their time with this?” Hmmmm, well, life is full of examples of, “it will NEVER happen,” actually happening and ignoring a possibility doesn’t serve any purpose, but bringing matters to light can be beneficial. Ergo, many people who currently see Hillary as the lesser of two evils might reconsider after reading articles like this one, and that could have a huge impact on the future of our nation. In light of this possibility, this matter is certainly well-worth discussing. Hillary and her ilk want government to dictate the needs of the individual. They want to take us back to what is tantamount to a feudalistic society – one in which the ordinary person has very few rights. This is the very thing that our founders tried to put an end to when they declared our independence from the English monarchy and established the Constitution. What rational American would want to live under such as system if they really understood what they’d be giving up?! Only the very rich, very lazy, very corrupt, or very ignorant could stomach a lifestyle so unjust and demeaning. The only thing ludicrous to me is that someone would state that something can NEVER happen and that discussing a possibility is a waste of time. Perhaps you’ll understand when they take away your freedom of speech. Oh wait, that could never happen…

  • Klaus

    Hillary would be worse than Obama, because she is a Marxist, and is one hell of a lot smarter than Obama. What a sad situation we are looking at.

    • Joanne

      Bill, Hillary, Bush & Obama all take orders from the same group, the One World Order. You people have the internet..check them out no excuse for voting blind these days. If you insist on voting blind check out your future home, view the FEMA Camps.

    • JeffH

      Klaus, in case your’re not aware…Obama is as much or more of a Marxist than Hillary is. But you’re right, Hillary is a Marxist too, a much more saavy Marxist than the community organizer in chief could ever be.

  • theodorej

    The nomination is Hillarys’ for the taking…. and here is why…She knows that BHO is a fraud and his credentials are seriously flawed and replete with inconsistancies…. Why would Hillary offer BHO the VP spot during a primary race that she was clearly losing unless she had some info that could blow him out of the water,namely his birth certificate…. What the Clintonisters didn’t expect was the insulence coupled with unmitigated gaul and arrogance that came with BHOs refusal and subsequent laughter in their faces…Revenge is best served cold and all those lefties on both sides of the aisle circled the wagons on this issue and with the help of the media smoothered it…BHO will do a Lyndon Johnson and refuse his parties nomination(and I might add not voluntarirly)

    • Randy Huffey

      You are a smart man or else you have been reading my postings!

      • theodorej

        Randy if we are on the same page it is only because we have been imparted with the same word of knowledge…. I have not had the opportunity to read any of your posts in the past …. but Iam sure I will find them interesting all though somewhat redundant..

  • Robert A Hirschmann

    In 2009 I wrote a a blog that I thought was tongue in cheek humor. Little did I know that it would be seriously considered.

    HOW TO FIX THE ECONOMY

    Saturday, September 12, 2009, 6:26:45 AM
    This is easy. All you have to do is give the billionaires a few more gazillion dollars or so and tell them to spend it and that will stimulate the economy. Of course you will have to increase the taxes on the poor unwashed masses a few thousand percent to pay for it but you have to take the good with the bad. That way we can get rid of a whole class of people. We would only have the rich and the poor. No more middle class. Wouldn’t that be great? And when we help the poor to die out by taking away food stamps, social security, health care and welfare we will only have one class. Everybody would be rich! Now isn’t that the Utopia that everybody is shooting for? Of course it is!

    Now I want everybody to write a letter to their congressmen to draft up a bill and let’s get this plan moving. Come on, START WRITING!!! Of course there will be a few dissenters as there always is when somebody comes up with a good idea. Well, that’s the way it goes sometimes. You just can’t please everyone. Hey! I don’t see anyone writing out there. Come on, get off your duff an start scribbling. It would be unAmerican to not want to get this country running smoothly again. After all, isn’t that what we were put on this earth for? Our congress will listen to everybody that backs this movement because they are used to giving to the rich. They do it all the time.

    • theodorej

      ARE YOU SERIOUS ??? There is absolutely no benefit to empowering the poor or the idiots that think that any one who contributes nothing should have a say in the disbursment of the fruits of hardworking people… The problem is we cannot tell the diference between the poor and the lazy so we pay them all …along with the frauds and slicks that feed on our welfare system… Any one who espouses this kind of class warfare has an agenda that is not in keeping with the american way….. wallow in your freedom of expression but you are the problem not the solution…

      • Angel Wannabe

        theodorj, I couldn’t have said it better!

        • http://?? Joe H.

          Angel Wannabe,
          come on!!! Let’s let them have a littlemore of our hard earned money!!! Then, after awhile, we can be in the same boat as them!! course, then there will be nobody to give to US!!!

          • Angel Wannabe

            joeH, I’ll let’em have a lIl’ more money, and then help them shove it where the sun doesn’t shine, the idiots! :)

      • mark

        We live under a government of the rich Wall Street pigs, by the rich Wall Street pigs, and for the rich Wall Street pigs. And now they even have millions of ordinary Americans to demonstrate in their behalf- the Tea Party! What a sweet set-up. No wonder they are all laughing themselves sick in their luxury homes and resorts. Now the suckers do their fighting for them!

        • theodorej

          Mark …..Wall street is us …. GREED,SELFISHNESS,GLUTONY,JEALOUSY and as you might or might not know there are three more dispicable attributes that make up the nature of what we have become as a nation… The TEA Party are group of folks that just starting to wake up and my prayer is it is not to late…

        • S.C. Murf

          You are one jealous puppy mark. Didn’t your welfare check make it on time this month?

          up the hill
          airborne

          • http://?? Joe H.

            S.C.Murf,
            Naw, he’s just mad he didn’t get a nice, big, fat, COLA!!! He thinks he deserves one more than those that worked all their life and are now on social security!!

      • Robert A Hirschmann

        No I wasn’t serious! It was written as a joke! If you will read it again you might understand that!

  • argoman

    I think Robert Ringer is very close to the truth, and possibly the Dem’s only chance. they would keep most of the minority votes and the left very happy. ‘Bamma knows he’s a one termer, so he’ll take his big severance pay check and drop out. i predicted a landslide victory for the republicans against ‘Bamma, but i’d be afraid, very afraid, if Billary runs.

    • theodorej

      Fear Not !!!! The genie is out of the bottle,unless the Dems can get this economy off its butt,it will be a slaughter in 2012… Hillary will only add to the conviction that libralism is on the run…It would behoove the American people to return to what made this country great… HARD WORK,INTEGRITY and RESPONSABILITY coupled with a sense of rightousness and gratitude toward the the HIGHER AUTHORITY that so blessed this nation…we know him as GOD…

      • Angel Wannabe

        theodorej, Agreed!

  • Joanne

    Excellent article. I sure hope no more hillbillies crawl out of the woodwork,but then there is never 100% of anything is there? I don’t think we have had an honest election count for many many years. Money talks, ignorance walks.

  • Insurgent

    Black trash, white trash——————–all these nutcases are the same!!!

  • joe

    You put up Romney and Perry like they would be much better than Clinton or Obama…or that they will surely win the nomination…besides Rasmussen, Gallup and television polls, they loose badly (except the most recent townhall Perry won) to Ron Paul, Michelle Bachmen and, even Sarah Palin. YOU say one politician can’t fix all of this, but you are again wrong, ONE politician wants to get governemnt out of people’s lives, and their campaign and polling is consistantly high (unlike Perry who will fizzle out the more he debates)…But you also have to realize this has been the plan B all along, Obuma and Clinton met at Bilderburg to tell them Obama would majorly make things worse by continuing Bush policy and adding his crappy health-care,and expected a backlash, hilary would marginilize the destruction, and just in case Romney would be projected by the media to make sure forced health insurance (and the coup de grace to medicine) would not faulter, along with more wars in the middle east to make sure they are a radicalized super-stae, like the Euro-union, the coming African union and the stalled-out American union(see SPP if you don’t believe me)…I really don’t appreciate your “resistance is futile” and stupid left/right finger pointing either, don’t forget who got this poo-ball rolling: ALL of the last presidents till maybe Ike or Jack. Big governement police staism is not limited to one side of the false paradigm. WELFARE-WARFARE CANDIDATES

  • JoDe

    This is what I predict will happen. As the 2012 election approaches more and more countries will begin to default (or be on the verge). As the global economic implications of this start to set in, a leader will be chosen who, it appears can rise as “the phoenix emerging from the ashes” and Obama will be “the chosen one”. How could he turn down such an honor/privelege, and the ability to force his “leadership skills” on the entire world. So, of course, he will step aside to rise to this more important role for “the common good” of the entire world. Paving the way for Hillary to step in and assume the role she has envisioned for herself from the beginning. God help us all ! But I really believe that this is how it will come down.

  • Henry Ledbetter

    The Lord instructs us to pray for His Kingdom to come and His will be done on earth as it is in heaven. I much prefer His Kingdom rather than being a subject of Hillary in this one. Besides that, His kingdom will last 1,000 years on this earth and those of us who know Him as our savior, will rule and reign with Him. Choose this day whom you will serve and be subject to. I made my choice March 7, 1970; regardless of what happens, my eternity is sure and I fellowship each day with THE COMING KING.

    • Angel Wannabe

      “Hear, Hear”, Henry Ledbetter!

  • Mountain Saint

    You are really under-estimating Bill Clinton. He is way beyond your league…Don’t be surprised that by January of 2012 the next Secretary-General of the United Nations will be our former president and that he would transform this position into a world dictatorship in a few years (Revelation 13)… 56 to 400 people have gotten in Clinton’s way in the past and they have all died mysterious deaths. Don’t be the 401st….Clinton is famous for his peacemaking abilities and could be the one who will broker the peace after the upcoming fourth and final Arab vs. Israeli war (Amos 1-2, Isaiah 17:1 and Ezekiel 29:12)…As for Hillary, several prophets have prophesied that our last president would be a beautiful but cruel woman. Cruel, yes, but not beautiful.

  • M.D.

    Wow. Hadn’t thought of it. But that would be fantastic! I’d love to see all the radical right wingnuts freak out at her victory speech next November…

    • Dan az

      MD
      I think you would be waiting along time to see that ever happen!It would only unite the so called right wing nuts as you call them that want liberty rather than socialism to vote for the only one out there that is a true statesman that stands against the very thing that you needy little parasites want.If I were you I would be packing my bags and buying a one way ticket out of here before the rush.You maybe be delayed to long while getting your anal probe while trying to catch your plane to cuba.

    • DJ

      Radical right wingnuts, you mean the folks who actualy demand that our government spend only what they take in and reps that obey the oath of Congress that they take when begging to line up at the public trough? Oh my how frigging radical ! What leftist cave did you crawl out of to post that BS?

      • steve in AZ

        lol – right on,DJ.

        Yup – the radical right wing nuts – you know…, taxpayers.

    • DJ

      Hillary Rodham truths 101 for the children of the lefty corn:

      In the late spring of 1971, she began dating Bill Clinton, also a law student at Yale. That summer, she interned at the Oakland, California, law firm of Treuhaft, Walker and Burnstein.[40] The firm was well-known for its support of constitutional rights, civil liberties, and radical causes (two of its four partners were current or former Communist Party members.) The current Commie in Chief is runnin scared and now they could very well line up Hillbillary 2.0 to try to retain power.

  • Free Mind

    The GOP could never beat these 2.
    It is people like Mitt Romney that cause republicans to vote democrat.

    • Angel Wannabe

      free mind, Romney I believe, is a Rothschilds pick to do they’re bidding on the repub side!

      • Mountain Saint

        Believe it or not, Bill Clinto is a Rothschild and inherited their wealth s few years ago. He is the one financing the Bilderbergers and other nefarious secret societies in their efforts to take over the world.

        • Angel Wannabe

          Mountain Saint, Agreed! Last I saw Hillary’s name was on the Socialist Party Member list too. They’re involved waaaaay more than a lot of folks know. Obama was too until he took office.

    • http://donthaveone Beberoni

      I think any name put on the ticket will beat Obama or Hillary, hands down. I really think America woke up this past election. And I think that if this new crew that comes in doesnt do the job right, they will get voted out. Its high time we the people realize we have the power, and send them away if they dont do the job right.

    • http://deleted Claire

      Don’t forget Rick Perry…

      • JeffH

        Who?

        • http://deleted Claire

          JeffH-Bless your heart! LOL

  • http://n/a John Beach

    The big question is whether such a declaration would be seen by the diverse minority groups as unifying or dividing the party. But the real question is, what are the policy changes that NEED to be made, and are not, which which would work and can be implemented by the one but not the other, NOW? Why aren’t the Democrats implementing policies which will work? For the good of the country, not merely for the good of the political future of one politician or another? It is the COUNTRY, not just some blip-on-the-radar-screen politician who will be remembered for their fiascoes rather than the positive difference they made in the lives of the citizens of the United States. Presented by the party as the “horse changed in the middle of the stream,” for a young steed that just could not satisfy all the people all the time, does not bode well for the Democrats, the experience and wisdom of an “old nag,” notwithstanding. If the American people fall for the prospect of change without any substantive understanding of what “change” means, they might as well stand out in the rain and watch traffic….that’s change, but it rarely bares analysis or scrutiny except for violators and accidents, road rage and weather conditions which, in the course of our daily work lives, are more important than the horse rider caught in the whirlpool of the mainstream of American politics who is drowning and is grasping at anything that will possibly keep him afloat. When there is not place to go, nobody needs the horse to get there. It is just as lonely at the bottom as it is at the top. Let’s hope nobody gets so hungry he decides to eat horse…..

  • Delores Smith

    ROBERT RINGER, – EXCELLENT ARTICLE…BUT NOT TOTALLY FACTUAL…
    If Hillary Clinton opposes Obama, it will be a deliberate ploy. It will be all part of Geoge Soros’ plan to move on to the next phase of the New World Order (which I like to call…The New World Disorder). Hillary and Bill Clinton are as EVIL as Soros and Obama (you agree with this, except you are overestimating Hillary’s ability to push Evil through). Hillary is transparent. She lied to the Senate about the New Start Treaty, stating that “Of course, the Preamble is not a part of the Treaty.” Senator Kerry continued the lie in the Lame Duck Session when he told the Senate, “The Preamble is not legally binding to the New Start Treaty.” Kerry pushed through the Ratification of the Treaty, and it was sent to the Duma for ratification. Leaders in Russia were on TV, laughing about the fact that the Preamble is a part of the New Start Treaty. Soros, Obama, and Hillary gave away our right to a Missile Defense System in the Preamble. My point is that I will everything to expose this Administration’s “evil”, and their connection to George Soros…and their common goal to destroy America. I will succeed.
    Delores Smith Delores109@cox.net

    • Dan az

      Delores
      You rock!

  • theodorej

    Do not make more of the Clintons than they really are…. The judgement that is iminent for this country will be meated out first to our leadership and then to the masses… the same scriptures that you espouse clearly says that we will be subject to a foreign captor and at some point our captivity will end when we finally go before God as a nation and repent… we are one of the decendants of ancient israel who has been banished from Gods sight back in antiquity…This nation could emerge from this dilema just as Nineveh did if we return to the values that made us great and that would mean we have to stop empowering people like the Clintons…

    • bob wire

      The judgement that is iminent for this country will be meated out first to our leadership and then to the masses…

      What??????? judgement? ~ meated? who’s judgment? whats “meated” mean?

      I sure don’t understand that. Are you referring to some biblical text?

      My judgment, the Clinton’s are political animals and thrive in politics.

      Groomed by a lifetime of efforts for the job but was not “born into it” or money.

      We don’t have to like “politicians” but I’m not sure that a Plumber would serve us well on Capital Hill.

      • theodorej

        Bob ….. When I speak of judgment and the term meated out it is term that is somewhat dated but means to be administered in portion and over a sustained period of time… It may come as a surprise to folks but the pride of our power has been broken both militarerly and financially we have gone from a benevelent nation to a debtor nation,we have gone from a God fearing nation to a Godless nation…We have turned our back on the source of all our blessings of wealth and prosperity which included our safety…. This is judgeemnt and you might notice it is being administered in a gradual fashion in hopes that we will see the error of our ways…

        • steve in AZ

          The correct spelling of the word is “meted” – and bob knows it.

      • theodorej

        Bob … What is the difference between a plumber and a community organizer …. The ocupant of the WH is articulate and he is a smooth talking orator and very skillfull in the art of deception …. He has several peices of paper attesting to his brillience but you and I are not allowed to scrutinize or examine them… Give me the plumber…His presentation may not be smooth and polished but his integrity and his character would be in plain sight for all to see..

        • Dan az

          Theo
          I agree,And a plumber is not afraid of getting his hands dirty when when cleaning up this stench thats coming from the White Bowl.

        • Angel Wannabe

          theodorej, Divine Providence followed, as the Founders sought God, on they’re jounrney til’ America was finally born_ I couldn’t agree more, that Divine Providence is now mocked, spat on and is now accepted as the norm.
          There are many scholars in the world, but their wisdom comes from books, writings and teachings of other men. A lot have grown to fear nothing., A lot have become self-righteous wallowing about in there own wisdom, as if were a law of the land…In everything…prayer to the natures God……if we Abandon God, he will Eventually Abandon us….

  • bob wire

    “challenging Barack Obama once it became obvious to a majority of the anesthetized public that the would-be emperor had no clothes.”

    Well, don’t hold your breath Mr. Ringer. I had those same thoughts about “W” and as late as 2010 some still defended him and refused to see. It’s only now in late 2011 have most everyone finally “got the picture”, “W” hurt us bad.

    I’m not sure as to why it was so difficult. In part, it could be the more someone is being attacked it triggers this “need” to defend.

    If that be true, then defense of “O” will be great as he’s been under constant vicious attack since his nomination. From throwing grandmother under the bus, to his Tire Gauge energy plan, for simply telling every American that correct tire pressure saves fuel, his crazed preacher, his Aunt, his Chicago ties, guilt by association and proximity, his father, his brother, his origin to his “community organizing activities”, his education, how he acquired his education, to his American citizenship.

    So? ~ yea! people are now blind to any real transgression that “O’ might display after 3 years of listening to so much BS.

    His mother is the only subject no one has dared to attack “publicly”.

    It’s like the little boy that cried “Wolf” one too many times. After no wolf was to be found, he was ignored.

    • Dan az

      BW
      “I’m not sure as to why it was so difficult. In part, it could be the more someone is being attacked it triggers this “need” to defend.”You know that we don’t defend bush anymore than obumer so whats your point?They all started doing this to us along time ago.Slowly but meticulously until obumer,so to use the same BS liberal talking points is just wasting yours and our time.Get with the program will ya!

    • Big Mike

      Yep, there goes another devoted acolyte, drinkin’ the kool-aid, in a total state of denial. Keep dreamin’, and be sure to stock up on Xanax, Zoloft, heroin, and Kleenex—you’re gonna need them after the election!

      • bob wire

        It has nothing to do with “MY” “devotion” or “denial”

        I’m offer you a reason why you are being “shutout” and people are refusing to listen to you. Why the emperor can gallivant around without cloths and not be notice.

        While I didn’t expect you to like it, I didn’t expect you to attack me for it! It an observation that offers reason for “behavior”.

        So ~ now allow me to focus on your behavior. Why attack the messenger? What purpose does that serve. ~ Why must I get with “YOUR” program?

        I know what your program is Dan, ~ blast any and everything that moves except Ron Paul. The lower you can pull down “everyone else” the higher Ron Paul can be elevated.

        Well, I’m sorry, I don’t think like a football sports fan. Nor do I trash “worthy opposition”

        I’m a card player, you only need to lay down a higher hand to win, all the huffing and puffing and condescending won’t change the value of the cards.

        You have them or you don’t ~ if you wish to buff~ fine, but don’t expect me to fold over a feeble ill conceived attack like Big Mike is attempting to pull off. I guess he doesn’t know me yet.

        Ron Paul does need some wind under his wings today in the worst way.

        Wind! not hot air! Hot air has little lift to it.

        I fear the GOP pick has already been decided. The “powers that be” wanted big boy “Cristy” and settled for Gentleman Hallelujah nice hair Perry.

        So in a way, we are on the same team Dan, I just don’t play cards I don’t have or expect to draw into.

        • http://?? Joe H.

          bob,
          Gee, since you are such a stickler on spelling, wouldn’t the word be clothes instead of cloths???

  • Randy Huffey

    Delores,
    Good job! Keep writing, I think some of these people (here)are “Getting it”. Soros is the Pupet Master, and he will make the call on who the Dem’s run in ’12. Those tht don’t understand this fact yet need to “Catch up”!

  • mark

    Oh yeah, those terrible Clintons who raised taxes on the rich in the early 1990s and then gave us an economy that created 22 million new jobs and averaged 5% unemployment with no mindless, endless wars. Those terrible Clintons! Let’s hope we never see their like again.

    • 45caliber

      The MSM spend over a year before the election trying to convince everyone that the economy was bad. The day after the election one of the mediators got on TV and stated, “We were wrong. We really have a great economy.”

    • Mike

      Oh yes, let’s credit the tech boom to the Clintons.

      And don’t forget the “housing for all plan.” How did that work out for Countrywide, Fannie, Freddie, and a host of others? That allowed the media to create another oxymoron in “Toxic Debt.”

    • Dan az

      So mark mark
      You agree with what they did when the signed the NAFTA treaty and started the decline of business’s living the nation?Or the war on sarajevo or the killing of US citizens in their church and at ruby ridge and the list goes on.I suppose next you will say that he had a surplus after robbing the SS right?What a waste of skin.

      • mark

        Most Americans would take the Clinton administration anyday over the Bush adminstration or the current Obama administration’s achievements. When Clinton left office, he had an approval rating int the low 60s versus hte high 20s for Bush and the current mid-40s for Obama. The U.S. lost nearly 5000 dead and 40,000 wounded in Iraq and 1000 dead, 7000 wounded in Aghanistan under Bush. Not to mention a $1.2 trillion and rising price tag. U.S. casualties in the intervention in the former Yugoslavia under Clinton were virtually zero, with 18 killed in Somalia during Black Hawk Down. Plus extremely low cost to the taxpayers. There is no comparison.

        • hawkeye

          The problem with American’s is they will choose any kind of $hit that’s running….brown$hit white$hit black$hit dog$shit monkey$hit…it doesn’t matter…..just choose 1 and be happy about it. It doesn’t have to be like that…Choose something good and quit choosing the crap that’s forced on you. wise up. http://www.divinecosmos.com/start-here/davids-blog/975-undergroundbases Things Only Work Upon Agreement…Stop Agreeing With $hit and Remember There Is Way More Of Us Than There Are Of The NWO Elite. Choose Again….Choose What Is Right, Not What Is Another Color or Kind Of $hit!

          • Dan az

            hawkeye
            Thanks for the link,It was actually uplifting to say the least.There seems to be so much that even researching as much as I have I would have never come close to the evidence that this guy has.I will spread it around thanks so much!Good job!!!!

    • DaveH

      Are you speaking of the Internet Bubble economy, Mark, which burst shortly before Clinton left office?

  • Insurgent

    Washington, DC————–the home of liars, whores, and thieves !!!

    • 45caliber

      The Clintons fit in very well there.

    • mark

      No, the United States of America – the home of liars, whores, and thieves. We have a representive government that represents a good cross section of the electorate. Have you read your local papers lately? We are the nation of endlessly growing crime, fraud, tax-cheating, adultery, promiscuity, teen-age pregnancy, drug use, alcoholism, gambling, violence, murder, and apathy. We have met the enemy in Washington DC, and HE IS US!

      • Nadzieja Batki

        You, mark, just told on yourself by what you posted. You would think that you would want to hide your characteristics.
        Majority of the posters would not fit your description of Americans.

      • Dan az

        Thank you for admitting your faults and the marxist movement that we have been trying all along to make you see.What was it?That popping sound?

      • DaveH

        If you believe that, Mark, then why do you promote Big Government, which is obviously the cause?

      • CJM

        Given your tirade against the American people, Mark, my guess is that you are a strong promoter of pedophilia, domestic domination and suppression of women’s rights, and murdering innocent people just because some guy down the street has a complaint against the homosexual he produced (after all, if a man continuously rapes a young male, the young one often continues that lifestyle once he becomes an adult) or simply doesn’t like, and a host of other extremes that are designed to humiliate and harm another human being. In that case, perhaps you should take leave of the United States and retreat to the geographical region that feeds your fantasies because in this great Nation of ours, we do NOT tolerate such things. As a matter of fact, we have real laws that prohibit these inhumane acts–and have no intention of repealling them just because some xxxx jihadist says we ought to. Take the shar’ia and put it where you think it will do you the most good…we’ll take the love of God any day of the week as opposed to following some mad man’s prurient desires (even if he had those desires two centuries ago).

      • http://?? Joe H.

        mark,
        YOU read your local news!! the violent crime rate has been declining for about eight years, and the non-violent crime rate has gone down, as well!! it was reported on ABC and FOX last nite, Pay attention, boy!!!

    • CJM

      Insurgent: Hate to burst your bubble, but liars, whores, and theives are found globally—-Washington DC does not have a premium on those sort of people. Why do they have so many pickpockets in places like India, Turkey, MiddleEast Nations, the Phillapines, et al….ditto for prostitutes and people who wouldn’t know the truth if truth slapped them in the face. If you want to castigate Washington DC, then call it what it really is: a swamp (which was drained to farm and build a town on). Pelosi was right, the swamp needs to be drained again–someone pulled the plug and the murky waters crept right back in.

  • Larry Pierson

    Hillbillies? That’s cute – I like it!

    Barak Obama’s effort to be a disgrace to humanity is running well ahead of schedule.

    • denniso

      Such a deep,thoughtful and substantive comment!

    • Dan az

      Larry
      There not hillbillies their Oakies!I think I saw them selling the silverware on ebay that they stole from the White House.I heard a rummer that bubba was going to open a cigar shop with the proceeds. :)

    • Nadzieja Batki

      You can give these people any names you want, Progressives, Liberals, Leftists, Socialists, Communists,Fascists,etc.,but they are all Globalists with no loyalty or allegiance to America. The names they call themselves are just for the time period they exist in.

  • 45caliber

    I really wish you wouldn’t call the Clintons Hillbillies. Hillbillies are basically decent people who would do anything to help you if you are in trouble. They are friendly and honest. Even today many of them do not bother to lock their doors because they know that none of the neighbors would consider robbing them.

    On the other hand they are also defensive and will defend what they have (and what their neighbors have) if you attempt to take or destroy it.

    The Clintons typify NONE of the good things of the hillbillies.

    To be honest, Bill was a lowland redneck who believed he was God’s gift to women – and couldn’t understand why every woman he met didn’t immediately accept that. To make matters worse, Hillary is from New York – which is definately not hillbilly country.

    • Mountain Saint

      Hillary is from Chicago and was schooled in the same garbage as Obama…Bill Clinton is international and owns the Rothschild wealth. He may be the next Secretary-General of United Nationa in 2012.

      • DJ

        In the late spring of 1971, she began dating Bill Clinton, also a law student at Yale. That summer, she interned at the Oakland, California, law firm of Treuhaft, Walker and Burnstein.[40] The firm was well-known for its support of constitutional rights, civil liberties, and radical causes (two of its four partners were current or former Communist Party members) Pretty clear cut there.

  • Clyde Charette

    50 million gun owners would not vote for Hillery.

  • Karolyn

    Hillary is not from NY. She is from Illinois or Ohio.

    • DJ

      Hillary Diane Rodham[nb 1] was born at Edgewater Hospital in Chicago, Illinois.[

  • Mike

    “Two for one? Don’t you mean three for one?”

    Signed,
    Former First Lady Lewinski

    • JeffH

      :) Good one!

  • bob wire

    There is no question to whom the DNC will be supporting 2112.

    and if Soros is somekind of DNC puppet master

    at least you know his name, title and position.

    Which is far better the anyone’s understanding of the GOP!

    GOP leadership is faceless and nameless.

    GOP leadership hides and uses 3rd stringers like Ryan to launch their initiatives. If he fails and gets his head cut off leadership can control the damage. Today, Gop leadership (whoever they are) attacks us with Governors and proxy, their names never mentioned.

    GOP leadership meets on the back nine and deals are struck during their “short game” and the Club House over 14 years old Scotch and a Gin martini lunch. You don’t even know their names or for sure their plan.

    But one thing is certain, whatever their plan looks like and what it really is, is to different things entirely.

    • denniso

      Good points Bob! The GOP leadership is hidden,yet there for us to see.
      The Koch bros are maybe the largest most powerful leaders of the party. The oil/gas industry is another leader.We can’t forget the rapture crowd who are the backbone of the GOP,ever since Reagan brought them into the fold. Then,last but not least,the NRA,who will do anything they can whenever they can,to make legal and available to anyone,kook or not, any kind of gun,weapon and ammunition.

      The ostensible leaders,Boehner,McConnell,etc,just dance to the tune of their real leaders and pushers.

      • FreedomFighter

        Hillary is a Lucy Tare, I read “The Book” it does not end well for Lucy’s or tares.

        Before God we are all equally wise – and equally foolish.–Albert Einstein

        Laus Deo
        Semper Fi

      • Dan az

        dipsoid
        With your logic the republicans would legalize all weapons,wouldn’t that say that they are not afraid of the masses being armed during a civil war?Hey if thats the case right on!I think I’ll buy a f16 to go turkey hunting!And get a few missiles for varmints.Ya never know about those pesky wabbits.

        • JeffH

          Yer killin me… :)

        • Angel Wannabe

          Dan Az__ROFLMAO!!!!!!!

        • http://?? Joe H.

          Dan az,
          Yeah, those libs er those varmints are pesky, aren’t they???

    • Mike

      Ha ha. Let’s vilify the GOP!

      Last I checked they are not controlling the white house. And when they did they essentially gave the left everything it wanted. Bush grew BIG GOV as much as anyone. Ever heard of FEMA, DHS? All the agencies got their money during the last decade. Bush put BIG GOV on the heavy eating plan- Obama has simply stepped it up by adding more cheese, grease, and red meat to the diet.

  • DJ

    Excellent observation Gayle! Fake Democrats ( Liberals) are having Hillary keep a very very low profile, considering she is the SOS, yet we do not hear a peep out of her about Obama turning his back on Israel and supporting the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt.

    I feel the Democrats are doing this on pourpose to try to inject Bill and Hillary back into power( as the author makes a case for hear too) as some fake centrists. Barry is sooo far left, Hillary and Billy will save the world and the Democratic party at the same time! These progressives are simply radical Socialists in Democrat’s clothing! I do believe Hillary does have higher ambitions, along with Willy, wanting to get back into power too, and therefore they pose a clear and present danger to America in the very near future. Yes Hillary is lockstep with Obama, her and Willy are also close friends with weather underground terrorist and murderer Bill Ayers, just like Barack Hussein Obama.

  • Ret

    I can’t remember the last time I voted for a president and not against the worse of 2 evils. Stepping on lots of toes: Reagan was an actor who played his famous scene very well. The USSR was already in collapse, due to Saudi Aramco’s undercutting the price of oil, depriving them of hard currency. The Afghan War was costing about 8.2 Billion/year. Then we had broccoli hating, barfing at the table (in Japan) Bush senior who started his war, and didn’t finish it. Followed by zipper Willie (can’t wait for the fallout of this – I’m told by a former girlfriend of a CIA agent and his lesbian wife??? Makes sense if you think about it). Who did nothing about the USS Cole, even though it was the 2nd try, The USS Sullivans was the 1st try. Who ripped off the White House while exiting. Then Bozo Bush who decided that if I was not in his pocket 100%, I was automatically against him, his cronies, his wars, and was a terrorist, but he took as much of my money as he could anyway. Last but not least, Obummer, who forgot his promise of no more war yet engaged the US in as many as possible. Let’s increase bankruptcies started by bubba, everybody except his buddies, of course. Lets go after any state that doesn’t bow to his anti-Constitutional dictatorship, lets get healthcare/welfare/foodstamps to everybody, particularly the illegals, so all the dead cousins can vote. Lets allow even the Dept of Education develop swat teams. Yes siree, a truly free nation. The current crop of repubs are revolting, won’t even go there now. Ron Paul gets my vote. I’ve started a small garden on my balcony, stocked up, bought water filters that make even the stream water potable. I prefer to die for the real USA vs rotting under a totalitarian regime. NH says – “Live Free or Die” on the license plate. So be it. Oh, I immediately stop reading personal attacks, so don’t waste your time.

    • Angel Wannabe

      Re, Agreed, felt a knot in the pit of my stomach when Bam Bam took over, and it has yet to leave. There has been no say of the American people for years. No matter who’s voted in it all remains the same. The ones who can’t see it, will be knocking on doors for handouts or picking grubs from trees for food.

      __Sadly, I always have to snicker at those who say “America can never fall” that “it can’t happen here”, including those in my own family. All one has to do is look around,… can anyone say Rome?

      • Ret

        My problem is that I have a long memory. The ‘good old days’ weren’t perfect, but at least there wasn’t the governmental intrusion that exists now, except for immigrants (my mother). Now the tables are turned.

        I wrote several e-mails that were returned unopened because the ‘box was full’. So much for government by the people.

        • Angel Wannabe

          me too Ret,_My Husband and I were Born in the 50′s__I/we remember when our town flourished, we had industry/manufacturing and Mom and Pop Stores. The only thing you see any more is chain stores. Such as Best Buy (but I hear they aren’t doing so well)Sears, Kohls, Wally Mart.__Although I like to remain optimistic, quite frankly, I’ve never seen more stores closed, with sale signs on them, and more homes & property for sale, than there is right now. Its dis-heartening.

          • CJM

            There was also not such thing as out-sourcing American jobs to overseas slave facatories. We also had corporations who gave back to the communities who supported them–providing playgrounds, parks, contributed handsomely to children’s hospitals, etc. Then the flower power me generation took over the establishment and generated the new corporate greed philosophy. I remember my spouse saying: “Those hippies–we’re really in for deep trouble when they become the generation that takes over”….and he sure was right.

          • Angel Wannabe

            CJM__Agreed!__But I think what made it so different then, was the people. We all thought the same. We had the same goals, worshipped the same God, with the exceptions of a few who were Jewish. But we didn’t treat them differently, in school it was actually fun to see how hanukkah was celebrated!.. It was “Yes Sir” and “Yes Ma’am” with “Please and Thank You” that was second nature.

            Mom raised the Kids and dad worked. God & Families & those in need came first.If we couldn’t afford something, we didn’t buy it on credit. We either waited until we could afford it, or we did without it!__ We gave a Damn about our lives, our debt and others.

            My husband and I were raised in the country, maybe that was the difference, I don’t know.

            But I’ve never seen such fear and over reaction by people today. Lawsuits over a Woman’s own stupidity of placing hot coffee between her legs, and gets burned by it_ and then sues Mickie D’s because the coffee was “Too Hot” ..Really???… Countless of ads on TV for “you May have a Law claim if you had this surgery” or “took this medicine”, and TV encourages it!..it makes me sick!

          • http://?? Joe H.

            angel Wannabe,
            Put Sears on that not doing so well list. Around here their Sears hardwares are closing left and right!!! Kmart closed as well!! Oh, and blockbuster video. Lots of lost income for the city!!! Then when you figure in the fact they built a stadium that put them fifteen million in debt, and you can see we are hurting!! The former mayor told everyone that ALL the funding was in place for it, too. What a crock!!

        • Angel Wannabe

          joe, yeah the Blaze had a report on this morning about the companies that are slowing, I wrote in one my posts on there, Keep going Washington, fire up them printing presses__your my friggin hereo!”
          The idiots!

    • http://fernhart.com Marianne

      Great post Ret!

      It’s amazing how many of the people on this forum give interesting and informative posts BUT ONLY 2 EVEN MENTION RON PAUL!
      HAVE YOU HEARD? The California Republican Committee ran a poll on the can didates. Guess who won??? RON PAUL got more votes than PERRY AND ROMNEY (GET THIS) –COMBINED!!!

      • Nadzieja Batki

        Ringer was commenting about the possibility of Dems dragging the Clintons back into the presidential ring and we are following with our own comments.
        So what is your point?

  • Jack

    Deep sea is right, why we spend 30 billions foreign aid alone to Israel, made friends not emeries.

    I am same GOP membet with Bush, he turn 2 Trillions nation debt to 11 Trillions and let ten thousand American die (Waht is the lastest # our young men get killed in Afg and Iraq war, plus 911, if our FBI keep follow the attacker, we can stop the 911 attack).

    What do we all American need ?
    A B. smart, ex experince, know what she is doing (the thing right), use all the right people, (Sorry, that is all Obama missing)

    Stop keep change and change to worest and worest.

    It is time to change better and better, improve All American standard,
    get back the respect from the world, focus our own troubles.

    FORGET any parties, VOTE for the best and qualifly candidate

  • Jack

    Old Henry is right if you put a dress or suit on a pig, they still a pig, that why I will not vote for Bush’s friend to trash all American again, GOP is GOP

    Do you fill better now or 12 years ago ?

  • Gary

    I have been saying this all along. There are a lot of Democrat voters that are not happy at all with Obama, but they would vote for him just because they will not vote for a Republican no matter what. Hillary just may give them another choice. Remember. She feels this should have been her Presidency.

    In 2007, how many, outside of Illinois, even knew who Obama was? When the 2008 campaign started, everyone, myself included, thought Hillary had the nomination in the bag. The primaries were just a formality. This virtual unknown came from left field, humiliated her, took the nomination and the White house. Too many people underestimated him and still do and he knows how to use that to his advantage. Hillary will not make the same mistake of underestimating him again.
    If nothing else, she is vindictive. She wants to be the first woman president so bad she can taste it and 2012 may be her last chance. If she waits until 2016, she will be in her late 60s or early 70s and she may not run because of age.

    I don’t know if Hillary could pull it off in 2012, but, if she tries, it will be entertaining.

    • CJM

      In all fairness to Hillary, Gary, I don’t think she is vindictive as you claim; furthermore, I never once heard her make the claim that the Presidency was hers and not obama’s….yes, she is a dyed-in-the-wool democrat, which countered the dyed-in-the-wool republican that reagan was, so what’s new there? Personally, I like Hillary although I am not sure I would vote for her today given the changes in her political ideologies since the 2008 campaign. And say what you want about the Clinton Presidency–he did do some really good things, like balancing the budget (which angered the republicans to no end) and left $3Trillion in the cofers (which Bush spent in less than 3 months when he took over). So what, he pandered while in office–as did many of the finger-pointers at the time, including the spiritual leader who was designated to provide counsel to the wayward President. We understand no one is perfect, certainly not a politician. What we need to understand, however, is selecting the right candidate–one who promotes and supports the Declaration of Independence and the US Constitution, provides positive leadership, is patriotic and believes in America’s values, and is a person of good character that includes integrity. Rather than sit around casting old gripes towards the imagined enemy, we really ought to be looking for that candidate who is PRO-AMERICAN and a CONSTITUTIONALIST.

      • JeffH

        CMJ…Clinton? “like balancing the budget and left $3Trillion in the cofers…I beg to differ CMJ. Clinton never balanced the budget…+3 Trillion…I’d like to smoke some of what you’re smoking. Never happened!
        _____________________________________________________
        Not once during the Clinton Administration did the national debt go down, nor did Clinton leave President Bush with a budget surplus that he spent at a frat party kegger or on anything else. Yes, the budget was almost balanced in FY2000 (ending in September 2000 with a deficit of “only” $17.9 billion), but it never reached zero–let alone a positive number. Clinton’s last budget proposal for FY2001, which ended in September 2001, generated a $133.29 billion deficit. The growing deficits started in the year of the last Clinton budget, not in the first year of the Bush administration.

        Clinton lied! He did it with Washington doublespeak and half truths. To understand what happened requires you to know what makes up the national debt.

        The national debt is made up of public debt and intergovernmental holdings.

        The public debt is debt held by the public, normally including things such as treasury bills, savings bonds, and other instruments the public can purchase from the government.

        Intergovernmental holdings, on the other hand, is when the government borrows money from itself–mostly borrowing money from social security.
        http://activerain.com/blogsview/855368/the-clinton-budget-surplus-fact-or-fiction-

        • JeffH

          CMJ, please understand that I’m not in any way trying to defend BushII and his fiscal irresponsibility.

          • http://?? Joe H.

            CMJ,
            If I have two dollars in my pocket, I can’t go into two stores and spend two dollars in EACH! That is what Slick Willie tried! He took money that was already earmarked for payments to social security and applied it to the debt, as well!!Look at the official GAO site and you will see it or just google Clinton surplus? and you will see it, as well!!!

        • Thinking About

          The liar meter went up with GWB, on WMD’s and his promise to get rid of those responsible for the outing of Valery Plame but that did not happen either.

          • JeffH

            What’s that got to do with the Clinton balanced budget myth?

            Answer – Nothing!

          • http://?? Joe H.

            Thinking About
            You now want to hand over the keys to the coffers to those that were stupid enough to accept those lies hook, line and sinker??? Are you out of your mind????

  • Violet

    Say Old Henry…It’s Chi caw go. Chi ka go is the way non-Illinoisans pronounce it. Sort of like saying Ill a noise.

    • CJM

      Give it a rest, sweetie, it is a matter of colloquialism and semantics–we speak according to the regional dialect we were raised under….but I’m glad the problem isnt a serious one, at least we know what we are talking about.

  • BrotherPatriot

    This is slightly off topic…*cough*…but Grandpa sent it recently and I had to share.

    Have fun…!

    http://whathappenedinmybirthyear.com/

    God Bless.

  • John Taylor

    Don’t ever forget that Hillary, Obama and Perry are Bilderberg attendees. All are bigtime globalists and want a New World Order. Bill’s mentor was Caroll Quigley who wrote Tragedy and Hope, a 1,000 page book on how the politics in America really works. It is recommended reading for anyone who wants to understand. Also re-watch the classic movie Network with William Holden, Peter Finch and Faye Dunnaway.
    Ringer is deficient in his article by perpetuating the myth that there is a difference between the two parties. The difference that exists is at the lower levels where elections mean jobs. At the upper levels both parties answer to the same boss.
    The President’s job is to sign bills and fill the heads of the populace with empty rhetoric that makes them feel warm and fuzzy. He is simply a compliant order taker and is subservient to the bankers that fund his campaign. Americans want a president with strength, charm, intelligence, wit integrity and conscience. Instead they will once again be duped by a new globalist president who will finish the job for Obama.
    Bill and Hillary are better educated and intellectually superior to most Americans. As Ringer suggests they are cunning and ruthless. Most Americans are politically illiterate and pass email videos to each other about pride in military and how lucky they are to enjoy the freedoms they have. A naive and gullible public is in the process of being duped again by a new president, left or right, who will deprive them of everything they value and cherish in life. The rest of the world sees what Americans don’t. Americans are the only people in the world that believes their own propaganda.
    The public did not figure out the deception of 9/11, they still don’t understand the deception of derivatives, mortgage fraud, corrupt rating agencies and gov’t regulatory bodies and god forbid the fraud and deception in the banking system which includes the Federal Reserve. They will only get it when the wake up destitute and homeless and then it will be too late. Sorry for the interruption folks, time to get back to Kristy on Dancing with the Stars.

    • Nadzieja Batki

      You are preaching to the choir as we know about all those things you have said.
      So what is your point?

  • Amy

    Post removed.

    • Amy

      Sorry but, I regard the Libertarianism as a kind of business-worshiping cultish religion, which churns out annoying flamers who resemble nothing so much as street-preachers on the Information Sidewalk.

      • JeffH

        Oh what you liberals can come up with…”, I regard the Libertarianism as a kind of business-worshiping cultish religion”

        Amy, I think DaveH is smart enough to not take your bait…you’re just looking to get a rise out of him, nothing more.

        • DaveH

          Too late, Jeff, lol.

      • DaveH

        Then you know nothing about Libertarians, Amy. That doesn’t surprise me, even though I gave you a link to a free online book to learn about Libertarians a few days ago. Here’s another that you won’t read and learn from:
        http://mises.org/daily/5004/

        From the article:
        “The support of libertarians for big business is another debunked myth. So long as these enterprises are compatible with genuine free-market capitalism, fine. But because so many seek subsidies, bailouts, and other forms of coerced largesse, they do not carry the banner of libertarianism.”

      • DaveH

        By the way, Amy, our “religion” is supported by sound logic and facts, something the Liberal religion is sorely lacking.

    • DaveH

      The DaveH that posted the link to the test is yet another fraud. I must be too successful. The Liberals are trying to co-opt my userid.
      Bob Livingston, would you ask this guy to kindly change his userid?

      • JeffH

        Hmmmm, that’s twice in two weeks…

        • Dan az

          Dave they like you! :)

      • Amy

        Holy cow, Someone wanting to be you! If it’s true that person must really have issues. LOL

        • http://www.boblivingstonletter.com/ Bob Livingston

          Dear Amy,

          Yes, someone must.

          Best wishes,
          Bob

        • Jay

          Amy, you have totally lost all credibility. Yet, one has to wonder if you ever had any to begin with! Slither, slither…

      • JeffH

        There you go DaveH. Bob L just outed the culprit Amy…whom I also suspect to post under the name of “Tony”…hmmmm…

        • DaveH

          All I can say is Wow. That was stooping pretty low. It shouldn’t surprise me though.

          • JeffH

            DaveH, look at the bright side of it…you’re on a website where they, PLD, somewhat have your back on these phonies and although it’s not to the same degree as public figures, you’re being singled out because you threaten the very immoral core of their belief system by posting here. Either that or Libertarians in general scare the heck out of them.

            Keep doin’ what you do!

          • Jay

            I tend to agree Jeff! Kudos to DaveH, the real one of course!

    • http://www.boblivingstonletter.com/ Bob Livingston

      Dear Amy,

      Continued impersonation of one of our regular posters will result in a ban.

      Best wishes,
      Bob

      • DaveH

        Thank you, Bob.

      • http://?? Joe H.

        Bob Livingston,
        thank you, you are a prince among men!!! Keep some dry!!

  • Terry

    IMO both parties are owned and operated by the Banking Empire who controls the money for all campaigns. The Banking Empire is the bankers that own the front org, the Fed Res. Their money comes from lending money to the govt and collecting a private tax, oops interest, for lending to the govt something the govt already is empowered to do, put money in circulation and it even has a monopoly on this feature of govts everywhere. The higher the ND, the greater is their cash flow.

    And no one in either party is talking about phasing out the fed res, as they would lose financial support for their campaigns. Instead all they talk about is raising or not raising taxes, cutting or not cutting govt expenses which is what they have been doing since WWII, and the fed res serves a straw man to blame for inflation and all economic problems. The massive national debt is not caused by low tax rates on the rich, the poor or because too many people have suddenly began getting to too big entitlments. No, the simple fact is just like at home, if the powers that be, parents or congress people, spend more than they take in they end up in debt! The difference is the govt enslaves the citizens with debt. When Moses lead the Israelites out of Egypt what did he do? He lead them out of slavery into 40 years in the desert. He did not lead them into a new garden or even an oasis, or a luxury lifestyle. But he did lead them into freedom. We need to break out of the cycle of financial slavery dumped on us by our elected officials and start down the road, path to freedom. We too will wander around in our financial desert for 60 to maybe 100 years. Freedom will arrive when the ND is driven to zero and our economy becomes one based on govt cash and not govt debt. One where taxpayers no longer pay tribute, oops interest, to the nation’s slave bosses, the bankers and their flunkies, our politicians! Debt doesn’t circulate, but cash does thus debt does not create jobs. We really do not have economic problem/issues. what we have is a financial problem, govt debt! How can the govt borrow money from anyone since the govt is the highest or equal of any entity in America. The only power higher than govt is God, but God did not create money. If He had you could fish for it, it would grow on trees, etc.. The freedom of religion right makes the church, or synagogue or temple above the govt when it comes to teaching in the realm of how to live. But we are also free to reject any one’s teaching. Only the govt can toss you in jail, i.e.take away your freedom. Other organaizations can only kick you out, fire you, or the organization can turn you over to the govt for arrest or trial if you have broken a law that has penalties. The govt can also end your life, legally too! And all elected officials are to obey the laws that apply to them. But you would never know this judging from many of O’s actions. He seems to think he is an ayatollah or other despot that makes the laws but does not have to obey them.

    Our financial du jour really stem from the fact that our elected officials can do what they are addicted to, spend, spend, spend, and they can do sso without any personal accountability. e.g–they keep piling more and more ND on the taxpayers like it was free money. this has to change. One one way would be to establish a legally authorized amount of money in circulation, and if this amount was exceeded, then the elected officials would be personally responsible to cover this amount by garnishing their wages, or selling their houses, cars, etc., but not their wives/husbands or children. And thrown into jail until this money was repaid. This is what happens to all of us if we spend more than our income for an extended period of time. Of course they might be able to take an ad in the paper declaring they are only responsible for my own debts if for example an individual official does not want to pay for O’s trillions and upcoming HC deficits.

    • CJM

      Terry: You do have some good points in your response and one of the reasons why I believe that there should be a PERMANENT CAP on the amount of money a candidate can spend in any election. As it is, the system says the elective offices are for sale to the highest bidder. No one needs a billion dollars to campaign for the Presidency or any other office; they don’t even need $500M. Cap the amount at $600K for the Presidency and at $300K for all other national elective offices. Locals can do it for even less (what DA, governor, State legislator, et al needs more than $100K?). Furthermore, all candidates, regardless of what position they are vying for should show proof that they understand what the US Constitution is/means and why we have the Declaration of Independence. All high schools should be required to teach 3 terms of civics, period; don’t take the classes, you don’t graduate. Furthermore, ALL CANDIDATES SHOULD PROVE ELIGIBILITY FOR OFFICE….NO EXCEPTIONS.

      • http://?? Joe H.

        CJM,
        just to put a little perspective on your statement, please look up what a 30 second ad during the super bowl cost last year. Then check out what a one minute political ad costs if the company doesn’t support you!!! That stuff isn’t cheap!!

  • jopa

    Ret: You asked, who ripped off the White House when exiting? I think I found the culprit.It was Ronald Reagan!During the last Teabagger debate I believe I spotted the missing Air Force One hanging from the ceiling in his library.Mystery solved.Who would have thunk he was a thief.Oh my.

    • Nadzieja Batki

      Are you sure you want to have the last word when you post as if you were high on something?

  • chuckb

    i wonder if hillary and bill move back to the white house, will they bring back the stuff they stole when leaving the first time? this is hilarious, it was obvious from the beginning barry couldn’t handle the job, he was a complete fraud, now the weak kneed are praying for another as bad. they have such short memories, they forget the constant investigations, the arrogance of hillary, the murder investigation that was never conclusive, however, hillary sure looked like the culprit and had every reason to remove vince foster. of course only the bolsheviks could worship at her altar and if she does get the nomination, how about all those millions of black voters, which burnt down city does hillary plan on to give her acceptance speech.
    only the bolshevik party could become so entangled in frustration and incompetence.

    • denniso

      What are you talking about? The Dem party is not suggesting Hillary run for prez,some rightwingers like Cheny are,and some in the mainstream press,which you rightwingers claim is bogus anyway. Why are you listening to them if they are so worthless? Hillary is not going to run,and Obama will be elected next year,period.

      • Jay

        Things are about to change, denniso, and you’re not going to like it. Brace yourself!

  • LES

    If Hill ran against Obama it would tear the Democrats apart. She would be labeled a racist.

  • Dan az

    How can you say that Les she treats all slave equal.

    • http://?? Joe H.

      Dan az,
      i gotta know bud! Where the heck did you get all of the pictures of eddie looking for Eyes?????

      • JeffH

        Je H. You always have a way of making me smile…I think it’s your sense of humor. :)

  • tc

    Rhoads scholarship was long ago co-opted by the left much as the Nobel Prize

  • Justin Rogers

    Chill out people. The author is merely making a play on words. Y’know, Hill(ary) and Bill. He’s not dissing hillbillies. Quit being so sensitive. I’m not a Herman Cain supporter, but he’s right about one thing: Americans are too uptight.

    • CJM

      I disagree, Justin. Ringer gave no thought as to what he wrote–all the article did was to rehash the hash, nothing of substance. If he had to use a *play on words* he could have chosen something other than *hillbilly* (which is something they called Carter–who happened to be a decent sort of guy after all). Maybe you don’t like Carter, but at least he didn’t lie to the public day in and day out.

      • http://?? Joe H.

        CJM,
        Oh, “We need a department of energy” wasn’t a lie???

  • CJM

    Gee, what a lot of hatred here. How many HONEST politicians do you know? Raegan? What bullhockey–Reagan trashed California because he had alzheimers and the Repubs knew this when they nominated him. Who ran the government? Nancy and her friends in Congress, that’s who. Why do you think she was so *protective* of hubby when he was in office? How many of you can honestly say they never broke one law in their lifetime (and that means you never took so much as a paperclip, pencil, or pen home from the office)? Few and far between that’s for sure. As for Ringer, he has plenty of skeletons in his own closet, but bet a dime he wouldn’t expose the first one. People need to focus on electing a person who shows good character, has leadership qualities, isn’t afraid of opposition, and is a CONSTITUTIONALIST…in other words, someone who clearly demonstrates PATRIOTISM and isn’t afraid of nullifying all the liberal agendas passed over the past 15 – 20 years. Congress needs to nullify many of the so-called regulations agencies have passed in the form of law because the US Constitution FORBIDS any agency from making laws, which is reserved for Congress only. Rather than focus your energies on useless tripe like attacking someone because you don’t care for their wealth or shady political agendas, find the person who will really work for America and its citizens. Could Ringer possibly come up with such a candidate? I don’t think so–he’s too busy running other folks into the ground and insulting a large segment of society in the process.

  • TML

    Having hte Clinton’s in the house again would be scary… that’s just getting too much like royal families, Empires, and everything else other than a free Republic. The Bush’s father and son, and then both Clinton’s too, in my lifetime? Hell to the no!

  • Terry

    Does it matter who tears the liberal party apart? No, just as long as someone does it. The black caucus said HRC should run after O steps down. But it was because O had done nothing to help black unemployment. Cleaver didn’t say what should be done to help blacks gain employment. But isn’t the black caucus a racist organization in the first place? Where they have a separate but equal group of congressional people.

  • TOMMY

    lets hope Hillary never gets into the white house .look up how she screwed over Stan lee ..yes the comic guy. look up youtube “the video that Hillary doesn’t want you to see” she royally screwed Stan lee over and the other people in his office i would have to leave the country if Hillary got in cause it would be the final nail in the coffin for Americans just like if we had another new republican president

  • Rick Hieronymus

    Don’t sweat it folks. We can do for Obama what we did for Hilary during her failed run. We will prop up Obama so he gets the nomination and create chaos in the meantime. Democrats, do not worry about losing the black vote. They “Black America” will vote Democrat even if the Democrat party runs the Grand wizard of the KKK.

  • jopa

    Sarah Palin for Prez. and Herman Cain would be her choice for Vice President.All this time I thought she was winking at me.ROFLMAO.

    • Homer

      Yes, I was wondering if anyone would finally bring up Sarah. The Editor-in-Chief of WND just recommmended that Sarah Palin jump parties and sign up as a Democrat and run against obummer in the Primaries. She would probably win and kill two or three birds with one stone. I thought it was a great idea. It would sure raise the esteem of the Democrap party a thousand per cent and I think she could clean out the scumbag commies out of that party while being our first ladie president and greatest president since Reagan. Screw the Hillbillaries, BO, George Soreass and all the commies in our senate and house or reprehensibles. IMHO..

    • Jay

      jopa, in case you haven’t noticed, nobody is really paying any attention to you!

  • http://gracie01 Glade Lizard

    Good and informative article sir, but I am from Arkansas, I am A “hillbilly”, proud of it, and I am INSULTED that you would refer to the Clinton’s as hillbillies!!!!

    • JeffH

      Glade…get it?
      Hillary = hill
      Bill = billie

      the Hillbillie…get it?

  • http://deleted Claire

    I sure as hell don’t want Rick Perry in the White House.

    • JeffH

      Who’s Rick Perry?

      • Jay

        Isn’t he the drummer for that band, oh, what’s its name? Hang on, it’ll come to me…

      • http://deleted Claire

        Rick perry is another one of those seedy characters.

  • Jay

    The true Clinton legacy.

    In less than one week the radical Left and liberal media will attempt to rewrite history and deliver a major victory to the Anti-American progressives. Next Monday, MSNBC will lead their charge by airing an outrageous documentary built upon LIES to recreate and resurrect Bill Clinton, the most corrupt and dangerous president of our lifetime. We have a plan but need your help to interrupt this narrative!

    The only way we America-loving conservatives can save our country and win the critical battles is to directly counter the liberal media. We cannot sit idly by and allow the media to rewrite history. If we don’t respond the anti-American agenda will win!

    We have prepared a highly provocative ad that directly points to Bill Clinton’s eight years of treason and treachery for selling America’s highly classified technology to Communist China. We need to remind America about the true Clinton legacy and prevent the media from reinventing history and resurrecting this shameful politician.

    MSNBC host, Chris Matthews is promoting this broadcast by declaring “We’ve never had a world leader (Clinton) like this before… When you see it all put together, you’ll believe what a phenomenon, what a story that’s here that hasn’t been covered in its real dimension, power and positive force.”

    Don’t let the media rewrite history!

    We cannot allow the media to re-create and present Bill Clinton as the “Great Leader” or we will pay a high price for it!

    The “new” Bill Clinton will be used to prop up the Left-wing extremist Democrats and to get Obama reelected in 2012. MAKE NO MISTAKE, THIS IS THEIR PLAN!! THIS IS WHAT PROPOGANDA LOOOKS LIKE!!!
    This cannot go unchecked. We must respond!

    We need your help to set the record straight and to remind America about the true legacy of Bill Clinton. Our ads expose Clinton as one who sold our technologies to Communist China, putting all American families and our men and women in uniform at risk:

    1.Stealth Technology

    2.The J20 Fighter

    3.Radiation Hardened Nuclear Chips

    4.Advance Space Technology

    5.Missile Technology

    6.Multiple Re-entry Warhead Technology

    Bill Clinton created a more dangerous world because he and the liberal Democrats don’t believe America has the moral authority to be the world’s lone superpower!

    The United States of America is the greatest invention in the history of the world and she deserves to be defended at every turn. If you believe in American exceptionalism please join with me to help set the record straight.

    Do not let the media and the Left get away with this! We must hit the airwaves and tell America the truth. We will not let them redefine a man or history.

    Our plan will drive the Democrats and the media nuts. Together we will derail their attempt to re-write history and push their radical agenda. We will prevent the media from manufacturing and broadcasting unchecked lies and resurrecting this shameful politician.

    Please forward this important letter to friends and family. The more soldiers we have promoting our efforts the more airtime we can buy.

    We will not allow the media’s revisionist efforts sweep Clinton’s flagrant betrayal of America under the rug. Together we will expose this propaganda and derail their agenda before it’s too late.

    Thank you for all you do for our great country and for the conservative cause. We will fight together and retake our country one battle at a time.

    http://nationalrepublicantrust.com/Clinton_True_Legacy_China_Video.html

  • Jay

    The NWO Modus Operandi

    The NWO global conspirators manifest their agenda through the skilful manipulation of human emotions, especially fear. In the past centuries, they have repeatedly utilized a contrivance that NWO researcher and author David Icke has characterized in his latest book, The Biggest Secret, as Problem, Reaction, and Solution.

    The technique is as follows: NWO strategists create the Problem – by funding , assembling, and training an “opposition” group to stimulate turmoil in an established political power (sovereign country, region, continent, etc.) that they wish to impinge upon and thus create opposing factions in a conflict that the NWO themselves maneuvered into existence. In recent decades, so called opposition groups are usually identified in the media as ‘freedom fighters’ or ‘liberators’.

    At the same time, the leader of the established political power where the conflict is being orchestrated is demonized and, on cue, referred to as ‘another Hitler’ (take your pick: Saddam Hussein, Milosevic, Kadaffi, etc.). The ‘freedom fighters’ are not infrequently assembled from a local criminal element (i.e. KLA, drug traffickers). In the spirit of true Machiavellian deceit, the same NWO strategists are equally involved in covertly arming and advising the leader of the established power as well (the NWO always profits from any armed conflict by loaning money, arming, and supplying all parties involved in a war).

    The conflict is drawn to the world stage by the controlled media outlets with a barrage of photos and video tape reports of horrific and bloody atrocities suffered by innocent civilians. The cry goes up “Something has to be done!” And that is the desired Reaction.

    The NWO puppeteers then provide the Solution by sending in UN ‘Peace Keepers’ (Bosnia) or a UN ‘Coalition Force’ (Gulf War) or NATO Bombers and then ground troops (Kosovo), or the military to ‘search for Weapons of Mass Destruction’, which of course are never found. Once installed, the ‘peace keepers’ never leave. The idea is to have NWO controlled ground troops in all major countries or strategic areas where significant resistance to the New World Order takeover is likely to be encountered.

    Who is the NWO?

    The corporate portion of the NWO is dominated by international bankers, oil barons and pharmaceutical cartels, as well as other major multinational corporations. The Royal Family of England, namely Queen Elizabeth II and the House of Windsor, (who are, in fact, descendants of the German arm of European Royalty – the Saxe-Coburg-Gotha family – changed the name to Windsor in 1914), are high level players in the oligarchy which controls the upper strata of the NWO. The decision making nerve centers of this effort are in London (especially the City of London), Basel Switzerland, and Brussels (NATO headquarters).

    The United Nations, along with all the agencies working under the UN umbrella, such as the World Health Organization (WHO), are full time players in this scheme. Similarly, NATO is a military tool of the NWO.

    The leaders of all major industrial countries like the United States, England, Germany, Italy, Australia, New Zealand, etc. (members of the “G7/G8″ ) are active and fully cooperative participants in this conspiracy. In this century, the degree of control exerted by the NWO has advanced to the point that only certain hand-picked individuals, who are groomed and selected are even eligible to become the prime minister or president of countries like England, Germany, or The United States.

    It didn’t matter whether Bill Clinton or Bob Dole won the Presidency in 1996, the results would have been the same. Both men are playing on the same team for the same ball club.

    Anyone who isn’t a team player is taken out: i.e. President Kennedy, Ali Bhutto (Pakistan) and Aldo Moro (Italy). More recently, Admiral Borda and William Colby were also killed because they were either unwilling to go along with the conspiracy to destroy America, weren’t cooperating in some capacity, or were attempting to expose/ thwart the takeover agenda.

    Continued: http://www.threeworldwars.com/new-world-order.htm

  • Terry

    IMO islam is who is seeking the NWO with them as head of this new govt so allah’s will can be done. His will of course is determined in the koran and in the minds of some ayatollah somewhere.

  • Palin12

    Know what you get when you cross a crooked politician with a crooked lawyer?
    Chelsea!

    • http://?? Joe H.

      Palin12,
      also missing silverware!!!

      • Palin12

        Gee, I thought it was theirs, LOL

  • 2WarAbnVet

    Exchanging Hillary for Obama will do nothing to resurrect the United States from the damage the Dems have thus far perpetrated.

  • Alex Frazier

    I think it’s safe to say that with the rough equivalent of fifteen or twenty pages of “Bill and Hill can go f*ck themselves” that Hillary doesn’t stand as much chance of winning as this article might suggest.

    Personally, I will never vote for someone who is prepared to violate their oath of office before they even take it. Hillary is 100% for gun control, and would outright ban them if she could. She is participating in trying to broker the deal with the UN that many dub the “Gun Grab” policy on small arms.

    Any politician who wants to take away our right to keep and bear arms, which is the citizens’ last line of defense against the tyranny of government, will never get my vote.

  • ONTIME

    Another educated professional liar to make another stab at keeping things screwed up. The Deemers were good enough to sneak this fraud into the WH, maybe they will put the kid Chelsea in the WH because both the the parents are to damn old and dried up to hold down the job, besides another damn lie will just give them hope and change….

    • Karolyn

      Too old and dried up! They’re ONLY 65! You must be awfully young to consider that old and dried up!

      • denniso

        The Clintons are probably younger than most of the ranting geezers on this site,and both look better than most Americans at 65.

        • Jay

          Actually, hillary could use a little Botox, and a new hair dresser. Other then that, and from far away, she may pass for 75! As for bubba, its amazing what ten pounds of make can do!

        • http://deleted Claire

          Geez,, old geezers? Take back those words! You are going to grow old too. Then if I am still around, I will call you an old geezer.

        • http://?? Joe H.

          Jay,
          After that, and a whole lot more Hellary might pass for a SHE!!!

          • denniso

            Claire, I’m a geezer,but it’s these others who are mocking the Clinton’s appearance when they probably look better than most of the ones doing the mocking.

  • http://slayerwulfe slayerwulfe

    I would agree our destruction is inevitable and no one at the present time is more competent than Hillary to complete the process. Why not just let it happen, all the sooner to rebuild and alter as much as possible the Founding Fathers ‘stupid plan’ because they could never have foreseen this world. That things will be different is also a certainty, one item on the present list of change the death of religion that is in it’s final stage act as it promotes alternatives to marriage.
    One thing that history shows us and it’s always true,always. Every time we see a change in religion we see drastic changes in government. What this new government will be no one can be certain, except that it will be different.

  • Corey Hawke

    A good article on President Hillary but I think the author overlooks the Democrat Party MO. Hillary doesn’t have to declare she is running now and make the primaries. All that has to happen is for Obama to check his ego at the door after riding his approval level into single digits and drop out of the race a few months before the election. The Democrats are already the party of the Super Delegate vote. They have no qualms with the party leadership deciding who the candidate is for the rest of the Democrat lemmings; hell that’s literally what the Super Delegate system was invented for!

    So imagine this: Obama continues to make Jimmy Carter look like a good president by being a complete Socialist disaster for another year, then with his numbers in the toilet Obama bails on the election “for the good of the party.” The dem leaders then make Hillary the candidate a few months before the vote since there is no time for a primary. Whomever the opposition is would likely get crushed by Hillary even in a normal election. But with only a few months to fight back, any Republican would literally be destroyed in the election.

    The really scary part is just thinking of what Obama will do via executive order once he knows he is toast…

    • denniso

      Boy that’s some dream scenario you’ve cooked up!!!And why would no Repub stand a chance against Hillery? Doesn’t half the country hate her?

  • jopa

    Jay;They are paying attention alright, there is just no debate when they know I am right.

    • Jay

      jopa, you’re a legend in your own mind. Only someone with low self-esteem would pat themselves on the back! Feeling a little droopy, jopa?

  • Will Mas

    Here is my perspective. I grew up in a home with everything I needed, all the latest toys, my own room, and always a full gallon of milk and what ever kids need to munch on. It was a middle class existence, provided to me by my father who ran a company his father started in 1920, and by a retail hardware store he started in 1975. I remember the gas crisis and the old fight between the Soviet Union. I remember learning about our countries past, and the racial divide between whites and blacks,and how our country was growing, and how it became the land of freedom. All the things that made our country the land of opportunity and the best country for the middle class. I also was smart enough to realize that there are people in this country that need help from the government because no matter what they do they can’t make it on their own. Some because of lack of trying and drug abuse, some because opportunities for people like them just are not there. But I always felt that OPPORTUNITY was there for everyone, that is what made this country great. I remember when all the old folks said buy American, because they remembered WW2. Things we affordable.
    Now I’m in my 40′s and have watched things change. Over the years prices for things have well outpaced peoples incomes. Just look at the price of cars, healthcare, and yes housing. We’ve have innovations in computers and equipment technologies that have taken jobs away, which is good for companies, but bad for workers. We’ve had corruption on Wall Street that caused Ponzi scams and housing busts from banks lending practices. We’ve had corporations lobbying for the right to ship jobs over seas and for tax breaks. Even more jobs lost. Government regulations that drove up the cost of doing business for smaller companies. At one time Sweat shops were frowned upon in this country, now people are asked to work for 7.35 an hour while gas costs almost 4.00.
    All the while people become Millionaires and Billionaires, which is fine, but to earn 300,000,000 a year while paying people 7.35 an hour is wrong. This country needs cheaper gas prices, higher minimum wages, affordable healthcare, and to export more then it imports. These are just to name a few. The government should repay social security the money it took. Medicare and Medicaid are necessary, we can’t have people dying if there are treatments. We have over 300 million people so we need to make sure people are fed and have a place to live, but we need a system to make sure those who can take care of them selves don’t steel from the system. But if we are losing jobs, how do we stop more and more people from needing assistance? Not and easy question to answer. How do we become the land of opportunity once again. We need to look and the oil and healthcare industries for help. Both need to start to give back.

    • denniso

      Good comment…Like you,I’ve been amazed at how the wealthiest biz people can live w/ themselves,when they earn hundreds of thousands or millions and then pay their workers wages that can’t sustain a single person,let alone a family of four. Most have no issue w/ the lack of morality it exhibits because they lay the blame on the ‘system’,or the ‘law’. They seldom take any responsibility for how they treat their workers and pass it off on the rules of the ‘market’,and what the market will bear. How can most of the fatcats claim any aspect of morality at all??

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  • jopa

    The Clinton era was such a lovely time with all of the peace and prosperity.After President Obama’s second term we will be living this scenario one more time and everyone will be happy.

  • http://google v.e. debs

    Oh maybe you have not seen the latest polls. Big Bill and Hillary still are at the top. Were is W. Bush? Mr Ringer why did you not go on with the ladies on the view ? No guts. They love to make the right wingnuts look like stupid.

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