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The Return Of Civil Disobedience

August 16, 2010 by  

It’s good to see civil disobedience making a comeback.

As NBC’s Washington, D.C., affiliate reported recently, a group of students who were members of the conservative Young America’s Foundation High School Conference were touring the Capitol in June. While visiting the Lincoln Memorial, the group spontaneously began singing the National Anthem when a U.S. Park Police officer tried to shut them down.

Rather than be intimidated by the fascist brown shirt on duty, a girl in the group is heard to say on the video, “This is America, we sing the national anthem. Who says on the Lincoln Memorial we can’t sing the national anthem, that’s what I want to know?”

The group then sang it again and, according to news reports, other visitors not part of the group joined in. The nonplussed and now greatly outnumbered brown shirted thug did nothing.

“The area they were standing in and singing is an area that is restricted for this type of activity,” U.S. Park Police spokesman Sgt. David Schlosser told NBC. “The United States Park Police is absolutely content-neutral when it comes to any sort of demonstrations in these areas.”

This is typical of the mindless, bureaucratic, zero-tolerance, politically correct garbage that has infiltrated government on all levels. And it’s time for Americans to stand up to it.

While a visit to a monument dedicated to the tyrannical dictator responsible for the death of 700,000 people, who shredded the 10th Amendment and accelerated the nation down this path toward oppressive government wouldn’t have moved me to break out in song, I can understand how a group of students indoctrinated with the sanitized version of America’s 16th President might be so moved.

Good for the students. May the rest of us have enough backbone to resist the oppression rather than just “move along” as we are directed.

Bob Livingston

is an ultra-conservative American who has been writing a newsletter since 1969. Bob has devoted much of his life to research and the quest for truth on a variety of subjects. Bob specializes in health issues such as nutritional supplements and alternatives to drugs, as well as issues of privacy (both personal and financial), asset protection and the preservation of freedom.

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  • s c

    Progressives love to point to the ’60s as their best days marching and protesting in the name of civil disobedience. Now that they’re infesting Washington and every state with their temporary majority, it seems that civil disobedience just isn’t “fair.” Only a herd of spoiled, pampered, paranoid brats would claim that civil disobedience has been patented and is owned by progressives.
    Get used to it, geniuses. It’s free speech, baby, and it’s OUR turn. It’s your turn in the monkey barrel. Guzzle some Pepto, and hang on. As a famous actress once said, “It’s going to be a bumpy ride.” I’ll sell you some barf bags wholesale.

    • http://?? Joe H.

      Mr. Livingston,
      I will say that there is one or two things that Lincoln did right. One was putting In God We Trust on our coinage. He should have taken it farther and put it on our paper currency as well!!

      • Maven

        From Wikipedia:
        “Use of the motto on circulating coinage is required by law. A March 3, 1865 law allowed the motto to be used on coins. The use of the motto was permitted, but not required, by an 1873 law. While several laws come into play, the act of May 18, 1908, is most often cited as requiring the motto (even though the cent and nickel were excluded from that law, and the nickel did not have the motto added until 1938). Since 1938, all coins have borne the motto. On July 11, 1955 it became required on all coins and currency by Act of Congress. The motto was added to paper money over a period from 1957 to 1966.”

      • Mary

        Joe. I think he knew that far in the future we’ll have a president from a far away country that will wipe his behind with the paper currency of this country.

    • Jana

      SC,
      We will be silent no longer. We are and will continue to speak up and out against any and all un American activities.
      The liberals are used to us being silent, and therefore running over us and taking away our rights. They are shocked that we have found our voices.
      We still have pride in our Country and her freedoms.
      IN GOD WE TRUST!

      • Fed Up Gal in NM

        SC, JoeH, and Jana,

        I agree. They [liberal/progressives] don’t like it when you give them a taste of their own medicine. I hope they choke on it!

        Jana – you bet we have found our voice….now we just need to keep letting them hear it!

        Gotta be proud of these kids!

      • JRC

        BS, it has been brought to light that those “students” knew they where not do this and they planed they’re “”Spontaneous”” singing well in advance knowing that it would get a response. This is NOT civil disobedience but an act of deliberate planned provocation and activism…but hey, facts have never mattered to the bloggers and sheep on either side of the political spectrum

        • JC

          I see, so it’s wrong in America to sing our National Anthem?
          That Ranger should have joined in. But instead he chose to
          represent the NWO gangsters.
          I say BS to you and your kind….get back under your rock.

        • Shibamom

          For God’s sakes…every freakin’ thing is a damn conspiracy! I guess in your opinion, these kids should be arrested, locked up, and the key thrown away. All for singing the National Anthem. I actually find it encouraging that a group of teenagers actually know the song and the words especially when there are tons of adults that have no clue.

          • eddie47d

            Shibamon; This has nothing to do with conspiracy theories. The right has been full of them and most have been debunked . They keep pushing them and encouraging this false nonsense.

          • hattles

            eddie47d, could you please explain to us some of the rights conspiracy theories that have been debunked or are we to just take you at your word?

          • dan az

            Fast eddey
            now is your chance to back up what you said please continue we wait in auw for your enlightened words.

          • http://PLD TomD

            eddie eddie are you out there we are still waiting

          • http://naver Samurai

            Edduh! If you look at the video, you’ll see that the kids have placed there hands over their hearts during the National Anthem. That shows more patriotism than Obama bin Laden who, by the way, can’t seem to do that. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

        • independant thinker

          “This is NOT civil disobedience but an act of deliberate planned provocation and activism…”

          JRC………..Hate to tell you this old buddy but that is one componant of civil disobedience.

          • Amy Emerson

            Hey JRC…maybe guys like you WANT Marshall Law in our free country?
            Where are you FROM anyway???? Would like to know !

          • Jana

            independant thinker,
            If that is the case then i say good for them! If I would have been there I would have PROUDLY joined in with them.

          • http://openeyedesigns.com OpenEye Designs

            I think you guys are taking what JRC said wrong. Yes it was an act of civil disobedience and yes they should be able to sing the national anthem wherever. Although I think he was trying to say its not quite what it should be. In reality, at this point in time, there should be millions of Americans marching on Washington DC and literally throwing these people out of office. Treason is punishable by death. They have ALL committed treason.

          • Christin

            Great article and video, thanks Bob.
            Great posts guys -n- gals.

            Open Eyes Designs,
            There WILL be Hundreds of Thousands marching on August 27 and 28, the anniversary of Martin Luther King, Jr. March on Washington … BE THERE and make a difference if you can.

            I am proud of those young people in the video, too. Way to go.
            Wish I could be there (DC) to practice MY RIGHTS to FREE SPEECH and ASSEMBLE for Constitutional America.

            Past Time to take our country back from the Constitutional AMERICAN Haters (Progressives, Liberals, Communists, Marxists…)and Corrupt RULING CLASS.
            GOD BLESS AMERICA!!!

        • Cameron

          Facts & data are like string bikinis; what they reveal is fascinating, but it’s what they hide that’s important!

          • dan az

            Cameron
            Very good choice of words

        • Amy Emerson

          Hello JRC…(whoever you are and wherever your from)..obviously you do not realize that YOU live in AMERICA. Your comment is STUPID.
          Kiss my grits Mel.

          • kate8

            The very idea that there is ANY PLACE in America where we are not allowed to say whatever we wish, much less sing our National Anthem, is outrageous and unAmerican.

            So, all you (eddie et al) think that we are just supposed to respect those places your ilk have decided are off-limits to all free speech, no questions, no debate…

            Just because your communist idols have said so does not make it so. This is America, and your elitist puppets can stuff it. They are out of line and over the line. Refusing to comply with illegal, unconstitutional mandates is not really disobedience to the law of the land. Quite the contrary. It is exercising our God-given rights, recognized by our Supreme Law, and refusing to honor a pack of criminal thugs who think they can just declare whatever they want to be law and we all have to follow.

            You libs are nothing but a gaggle of fools.

        • 45caliber

          JRC:
          So an act that is deliberately planned is NOT civil disobedience? Perhaps you should have explained that to Martin Luther King. All his marches were planned in advance or he wouldn’t have gone to those cities. Like his ‘civil disobedience’, no one was harmed. The ranger might have had his feelings hurt but he was probably the only one. And, since he works there, he doesn’t count.

          Perhaps we should have more civil disobedience of this type in America. It seems that the only people allowed to do as they please are the illegals. The rest of us are supposed to shut up and open our wallets.

        • prsmith

          And your point is. . .?

        • Mike R.

          It may not have been spontaneous, but it was still civil disobedience. All the demonstrations put on by the left are planned in advance.

          My only problem with the story is that Mr. Livingston seems to feel the states should have been left to keep slaves if they wished to. That was the only “10th Amendment” issue, and a weak one at that.

          • Carolina Mom

            Mike… the 10th amendment was about states rights… Lincoln wouldn’t let the southern states secceed (sp?). Ayway… the 13th amendment abolished slavery…

          • http://www.boblivingstonletter.com/ Bob Livingston

            Dear Mike R.,

            You wrote: “Mr. Livingston seems to feel the states should have been left to keep slaves if they wished to.” On what do you base this inference? You demonstrate an ignorance (lack of knowledge) of U.S. history for that period. As to slavery, black-African slavery existed in the mid-19th century in Europe and many South American countries. Those countries managed to end the abhorrent practice peacefully. I’m confident it would have ended here as well.

            I refer you to Thomas DiLorenzo’s “The Real Lincoln” http://www.personalliberty.com/suggested-reading/the-real-lincoln/. Another good source is “The Constitution in Exile” by Judge Andrew P. Napolitano, http://www.personalliberty.com/suggested-reading/the-constitution-in-exile-by-judge-andrew-p-napolitano/. Read the works of the fabulous historian Bruce Catton, particularly “The Civil War.” You can also use the search tool at the top of Personal Liberty Digest and search Lincoln for more information.

            I would also suggest you research nullification and the Kentucky Resolutions of 1798. A good starting point would be http://www.personalliberty.com/personal-liberty-articles/resurrect-the-principles-of-98/.

            Best wishes,
            Bob

          • 45caliber

            The South didn’t leave the union over slaves. There were only about 1200 slave owners in the South at the time and I can guarantee you that the rest didn’t care to risk their lives over slaves being free or not. It was an issue in the North to improve enlistment. Actually the North suffered more than the South did upon freeing the slaves – although the North called them “indentured servants”. They had more.

            The South left due to States Rights (the 10th Amendment). The North controlled the House and used their control to limit what the states in the South could and could not do. One biggie was industrialization and who the South could sell to. The North wanted the Federal Government in charge since they controlled it. The South wanted to industrialize and sell their cotton and tobacco overseas. That would have seriously cut into the North’s profits.

        • JeffH

          Sheeple: Signs That You Might Be Part Of The Herd…
          Millions of people from countries across the world have begun to wake up to the very real threat of repressive and engineered Globalism, or what the financial elite and the politicians who work for them often refer to as “The New World Order”. The movement against this centralization of economic and social power has gained traction in nearly every sphere, to the point where even the mainstream media has been forced on occasion to acknowledge its existence and prevalence. Those of us who have been working more than a few years in this activist organization, what many of us call the “Patriot Movement”, or the “Liberty Movement”, have seen incredible leaps and bounds in the fight against disinformation and the spread of unadulterated truth. Our work has gone viral, and our membership has skyrocketed, however, the task of diluting ignorance in the overall populace is far from over.

          Sheeple can be found in every country, every ethnic background, every religious organization, and every subculture. After years of examination and experience, it has become much easier for the Liberty Movement to identify and categorize the various forms of sheeple, and come to terms with the triggers in the human mind that cause some to willfully ignore logic and wisdom.

          Identifying Sheeple
          a. Quasi-Intellectual Sheeple believe in the world of academia as unerring, as opposed to true scholars, who always have the wisdom to question the conclusions of academia. To me, an Ivy League degree is little more than a $100,000 piece of paper; it tells me nothing of the true intelligence of the person holding it.

          b. The ’New Age’ Sheeple: Otherwise known as “unabashed collectivists”. Not to be confused with people who do legitimate study into mythology, spiritualism, and the teachings of the ancient past. These are the folks who read Oprah throwaway books like “The Secret”, and think they have actually learned a secret. New Age Sheeple do not set out to actively and physically fix problems. They follow the Positivist view, which is to ignore bad things and hope they go away, or make them go away “with their minds”.

          c. The ‘Quasi-Activist’ Sheeple: Also known as “the rebel with too many causes and not enough knowledge”. At least these sheeple are willing to leave their houses and fight for something, even if they know little to nothing about what they are fighting for or over. The problem is that their lack of insight and in-depth understanding on most issues makes them highly susceptible to manipulation. These are the “useful idiots” we hear so much about; the people who support Anarchist groups that promote Socialist ideals (uh, Socialism is contrary to the tenets of real Anarchism, guys…), the people who believe everything they are told by the CRU on global warming even though the CRU has never released original source data proving that anything they say is true, the people who blame Capitalism and free markets for the economic collapse even though we haven’t had legitimate Capitalism and free markets in over a century. Without knowing the facts behind these issues, how can one effectively involve himself in them?

          Common Sheeple Arguments
          a. The NWO is just a “conspiracy theory”
          b. I’m well informed and have never been a “sheep”
          c. I’m not the “sheeple”! You are because you believe in conspiracy theories: Yes, full grown adults still use the rubber/glue tactic.
          d. The NWO is not possible because it would involve too many people. Someone would let the cat out of the bag eventually: Actually, the Global Elites themselves let “the cat out of the bag” constantly. They speak openly about plans for world government, world financial control, population control and reduction, and they write bills and legislation that are designed to limit or erase our civil liberties. The proof is hidden in plain sight
          e. You’re just fear mongering to get attention: The term “fear mongering” denotes the use of lies to induce hysteria.
          f. Everything is just chaos. There is no such thing as an organized conspiracy to control the world
          g. Yeah, I know the NWO exists, but who cares! We can’t stop it, so just live your life and have fun while you can
          h. What’s so bad about a one-world government? It would be the end of war, right?

          We did not get to where we are now by giving up when the waters became choppy, and I believe when this age is chronicled and spoken of, it will be our perseverance above all else that defines us. It is a grueling task to defeat an opponent who cannot be dissuaded, who cannot be made to give up. It is nearly impossible to defeat that same opponent when he is also right. To those in the New World Order, we are such an opponent. As long as we do not falter, the sheeple will grow thinner in number, replaced by cognizant vibrant individuals, and the warped ambitions of Globalists will not come to pass…

          http://neithercorp.us/npress/?p=287

          • Warrior

            Excellent post.

          • MidnightDStroyer

            Yep, I’d have to agree that your post is excellent & spot on. Although I think Thomas Jefferson siad it quite adroitly in two short sentences:
            “It is error alone which needs the support of government. Truth can stand by itself.”

            The bigger the government gets, the bigger the errors grow…The Constitution was constructed to limit this nation with the *smallest* government possible, while still being able to address functions that lie primarily with defense from invasion & trade/relations with foreign nations.

            Yet, how many people realize that, by lawful definitions of “jurisdiction,” the US Government is considered to be an ALIEN jurisdiction in respect with State Jurisdiction? The entirety of US Jurisdiction includes the District of Columbia, Possessions & Territories (specifically named Puerto Rico, Virgin Islands, Guam & Philippine Islands), & US Enclaves (those lands ceded to the US by the States, as stated in Article 1, Section 8, Clause 17, for those specific purposes mentioned)…This also includes those who contract with (ie: apply for a job in government service, hence submitting to the Oath of Office) or Naturalize as US citizens under the 14th Amendment. That is the full EXTENT of US Jurisdiction.

            We the People are the Sovereign Power, delegating many Powers through our representatives in the State governments (via the 10th Amendment), which in turn delegates few & limited Powers to the US Government (That’s right, the States *created* the Feds, not the other way around).

          • dan az

            Jeff H
            that was excellent you ever thought of writing for personal liberty news?That really helped me to understand who these liberals are and why they dont have there eyes open or refuse to. Thanks dan az

          • JeffH

            Sorry dan, as you can see I attached a link from the source of my post, but I did find it very appropriate to post here.

          • http://?? Joe H.

            JeffH,
            good post! I remember a professor that told a student in college” I don’t understand why your grade can’t be higher. 90% of your grade is rote memorization.” That’s why these progressives are so good at their job here, they just remember what the partyline says and puke it back up!!!

        • Beepster

          “This is NOT civil disobedience but an act of deliberate planned provocation and activism”

          What, pray tell, is the difference. They were not violent, so that kinda defeats what you are trying to say. Whether it was planned or unplanned makes no difference. If it were a pack of Muslims bowing down and praying, nothing would have been said!!!!!!!!

          • http://msn.com Dottyj0

            So we are being penalized in our own country to accomotate the heathens of the east, and any other fool that comes into this nation. We need to round up these heathens by the bag full and send them where they came from, or feed them to the sharks. Ramadan huh? The National Day of Prayer after 59 years, is ignored and considered offensive to other religions. ( I guess so, they have no god to pray to) But the President is celebrating Ramadan in the white house? When we send the Muslims packing, throw him in the bag. We have enough idolatry in America. We don’t need any more. Keep waitin to act on this crap. You will have no country, and American will look like the Soviet Union; dark, dismal, bland, gray, and hungry, very hungry!!!!

        • http://www.lostnation.blogspot.com Jerry D

          Whether it was spontaneous or planned – good for them! You must have a problem with the National Anthem.

        • Dan

          Where is your proof that they planned this act of civil disobediance?

          • http://msn.com Dottyj0

            The mind of a Liberal in not a terrible thing to waste, IT IS A WASTE. LIKE A CANCER ON IDEOLOGICAL THOUGHT. CUT IT OUT, OR IT WILL KILL AMERICA. WE HAVE ALLOWED OUR NATION TO BE INFILTRATED BY THOSE WHO HATE US, AND HAVE DECLARED THAT THEY HAVE THE SAME RIGHTS AS WE DO. THE JEWISH COMMUNITY HAS GONE MAD AS WELL. THEY ARE REALLY BLIND, AFTER LIVING WITH THE TRUTH AND REJECTING IT. A MOSQUE IN NEW YORK. HOW ABOUT A STATUE OF HITLER IN THE CENTER OF THE CITY. HOW WOULD THEY LIKE THAT. FRANKLY, I DON’T SEE THE DIFFERENCE. THEY HAVE OPENED THE CAGES AND INVITED THE LIONS FOR DINNER. GUESS WHO IS GOING TO BE DINNER?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

        • Barry

          I am PROUD of them. It is these rights given by our constitution for the freedom of expresion. If not for this you would not even be able to say anything here. Be glad you live here. It is time for a change for government to get out of our lives and be the government intended and exercises the powers given to them. The government has overextended their powers into our private and public lives and deserves to be reminded why they are there in the first place. Our time, our votes and our voices will tell, and I say TELL our government officials what their jobs are.

        • APatriot

          JRC, Even if what you say is true, what’s wrong with HS students making plans to sing our National Anthem? What do you think is wrong with this group wanting to show pride in their country, especially now when this radical socialist administration is trying to turn our children against the USA!? I am very proud of these kids! Or would you rather watch the teachers who taught 5-6 year old children to sing praises to Obama their Messiah? “THAT WAS SICK!” At least these students are old enough to know right from wrong and they chose to honor their country. “What kind of American finds fault with school students singing their National Anthem?”

        • Keith Luxton

          JRC,

          Crawl back under your left wing loony pad. That is always what the dictators of the world say, when people have the absolute nerve to stand up for their rights. We need more of our people to tell the African president to recuse himself for not even being an american by birth.

        • http://PersonalLibertyDigest G Man

          JRC You’re an idiot.

      • Pat

        Good for you, more people should speak up!!!!

      • JeffH

        Jana, I agree with you all the way…as Yogi Berra once said, “It ain’t over ’til it’s over” and by God this is far from over.

        Let us continue to take our country back.

        “Keep some powder dry”

        • http://naver Samurai

          “Always take the offensive, never dig in!” G. S. Patton, Jr.

          Sorry, but being a historian I couldn’t resist that line. JeffH., with the victories we’re starting to win agaisnt this terrorist in office it’s only a matter of time. I just hope and pray that we aren’t too late! FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

      • Debbie

        You are completely right! We in the real majority have been complacent. Apathetic at the voter poles, “we” allowed others to speak for us. That is until “we” collectively woke up from our slumber. Now that you see what can happen when you fail to speak up, please never let anyone quiet you again…

    • Dallas E

      So We Can Assume You Are OK With The Thugs/Cops Pushing Their Own Agenda’s ?, Ever Hear Of The First Amendment ???
      You Sound Like An Elitest Trying To Put Down Anyone Who Speaks Their
      Mind’s !!
      Go Ahead & Spew Your Poison ! No One Is Listening Anymore !!

    • http://goggle jimradford

      iam glad to see our new generatons do what they are intitled to do,and it would be great to have a group to do this more often to the unrespected people to you all keep it up and you guys go go go…..

    • JeffH

      This was not ever a case of civil disobedience but a case of patriot students displaying their belief in America by singing the National Anthem.

      This country is being twisted, warped and raped by the Marxist minded liberal progressives and a force de risistance is now growing by leaps and bounds to stop it.

      A sad time when a progressive NJ judge rules that a muslim man can beat and rape his wife because Sharia law allows it even though the wife’s attempt to get an earlier restraining order were refused by the court.

      While recognizing that defendant had engaged in sexual relations with plaintiff against her expressed wishes in November 2008 and on the night of January 15 to 16, 2009, the judge did not find sexual assault or criminal sexual conduct to have been proven. He stated:

      This court does not feel that, under the circumstances, that this defendant had a criminal desire to or intent to sexually assault or to sexually contact the plaintiff when he did. The court believes that he was operating under his belief that it is, as the husband, his desire to have sex when and whether he wanted to, was something that was consistent with his practices and it was something that was not prohibited.
      After acknowledging that this was a case in which religious custom clashed with the law, and that under the law, plaintiff had a right to refuse defendant’s advances, the judge found that defendant did not act with a criminal intent when he repeatedly insisted upon intercourse, despite plaintiff’s contrary wishes.

      Having found acts of domestic violence consisting of assault and harassment to have occurred, the judge turned to the issue of whether a final restraining order should be entered. He found such an order unnecessary, vacated the temporary restraints previously entered in the matter and dismissed plaintiff’s domestic violence action….

      The appellate court reversed this absurd decision, saying: As the judge recognized, the case thus presents a conflict between the criminal law and religious precepts. In resolving this conflict, the judge determined to except defendant from the operation of the State’s statutes as the result of his religious beliefs. In doing so, the judge was mistaken.

      A New Jersey judge sees no evidence that a Muslim committed sexual assault of his wife — not because he didn’t do it, but because he was acting on his Islamic beliefs: “This court does not feel that, under the circumstances, that this defendant had a criminal desire to or intent to sexually assault or to sexually contact the plaintiff when he did. The court believes that he was operating under his belief that it is, as the husband, his desire to have sex when and whether he wanted to, was something that was consistent with his practices and it was something that was not prohibited.”

      Luckily, the appellate court overturned this decision, and a Sharia ruling by an American court has not been allowed to stand. This time.

      Keep preparing yourselves, your country depends on you.

    • CraigB4U

      I grew up in the 60′s. I didnt join the protesters then because I was too busy trying to work. I must admit that I may not have agreed with a lot of the protesting at that time anyway, BUT, this is a horse of a different color. I say maybe this is what this country needs Right Now! Before elections to let the goverment know there are People who dont like whats going on!! Protest – I say YES. (peacefull)

  • Jim H.

    Singing the NATIONAL ANTHEM at a NATIONAL MEMORIAL is civil disobedience? Before you know these crazy kids will be PRAYING in a CHURCH. Makes burning draft cards, burning bras and burning flags seem tame. Fed up Gal, I concur, Gotta be proud of these kids. And the others not in the group who joined in. Who ever thought we would come to the day that singing OUR National Anthem would be considered subversive. Hope& change.

  • A Bit of Thought

    When a mindless fool commits an act of bureaucratic stupidity, we need to get and publish his/her name.

    • pennsyltuckian

      The biggest mindless bureaucrat is Maobama. He wants to be a dictator. It is time for us to take this country back from foreign invaders like him. See Red Dawn

      • JRC

        I have news for you, Red Dawn was a movie, a script, and pretty unrealistic and bad too……its fantasy, nothing else….

        • Shibamom

          “I have news for you, Red Dawn was a movie, a script, and pretty unrealistic and bad too……its fantasy, nothing else….”

          Bad movie or not, why is it unrealistic? Consider the illegals coming across the borders. How many is estimated to be here illegally? Millions!!! Now, remember they are illegal so since it is so easy for them to get across, how many of them are possible terrorists?

          Don’t ever poo poo the plot of a movie. If some bozo screenwriter thought it up, why couldn’t someone who means to do harm think up similar schemes…or for that matter, see the “unrealistic, bad, fantasy” movie.

          • eddie47d

            You mean movies like Star Wars or 2012? What if movies! No different than Red Dawn -What if!

          • Robert Smith

            Posted by Shibamom: >>> If some bozo screenwriter thought it up, why couldn’t someone who means to do harm think up similar schemes…or for that matter, see the “unrealistic, bad, fantasy” movie.<<<

            Or book. Remember Tom Clancy had a plane go into the Capital building in one of his books.

            But! I don't think the right thinks of Tom Clancy as a "bozo."

            Rob

          • vicki

            Think about Demolition man and presidents.

          • http://naver samurai

            The book was called Debt of Honor. Rob is a moron! FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

        • Amy Emerson

          Hey JRC..just because Red Dawn was only a movie doesn’t mean that the average American Citizen WON’T combat the enemies that attack us on our own territory. I hope you run into a few of us when all the crap hits the fan..looking forward to meeting you. You sound like a worm.

          • dan az

            Actually I liked that movie,I think it was Way ahead of its time.

          • http://naver samurai

            I liked it also. Shows what someone can do when they are cold, hungry, and tired enough. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

      • http://goggle jimradford

        i have seen red dawn, and liked it alot alltho i was not to proud to see all of our people caught and hurt, and most of all our young ones to have to take our country back and get killed doing so,but if that comes to happen then so be, catch you all later.

        • independant thinker

          I enjoyed it as well.

      • eddie47d

        Obama has nothing to do with the policies of the National Park Service set up before he became President.Go back and find out who the actual President was. Do some homework instead of spreading misinformation.

      • Cameron

        Also see “Soldier” starring Kurt Russell.

    • Sharon Mancuso

      Does Obama come to mind when you mention stupid???

      • Pat

        Yes he does!!!!

        • Jana

          Pat,
          For sure Obama has no wisdom. When he speaks he puts his foot in his mouth soooooo many times. He doesn’t act in the important things, he reacts. Too little too late. When he acts such as pushing his agendas through, he acts in ways that MOST of the citizens of this country do not want or like.
          At best he is inept, at worst he is very corrupt.

          • kate8

            Jana, This is what happens when people select babes as their leaders. They tend to be idealistic, unrealistic and overly zealous. Indeed, they have no wisdom.

            Wisdom comes with age and experience, and the development of inner understanding. Youth do not possess this. That is why they are most suseptible to ideologic indoctrination.

            Notice the ages of Obama and his selections for positions of power. They are either young (as leaders go) or entrenched in wealth which has come from a life of greed and power.

          • JeffH

            Jana, try inept and corrupt and an “enemy of the state”!

          • http://?? Joe H.

            Jana,
            that is why you hear him say uh, um, well, ah, see, he’s trying to get his tongue past his foot!!!

      • Cameron

        “Obama” & “stupid” are redundant.

      • http://msn.com Dottyj0

        IT WOULD BE NICE TO THINK OF HIS POLICIES THAT WAY. THE TRUTH OF THE MATTER IS THAT WE ARE STUPID FOR LETTING HIM IN HERE. EVERYTHING THAT COMES OUT OF THIS MAN’S MOUTH IS THE BEAUTY OF GLORY OF THE ISLAMIC PEOPLE. ONLY A PERSON WHO SUPPORTS TERROR, AND HATES AMERICA COULD SIDE WITH A BUNCH OF HOOLGANS. HE IS A PERSONICATION OF HITLER IS THERE EVER WAS ONE. HAVING A LAW DEGREE DOES NOT COUNT WHEN YOU ARE SOLD ON THE IDEOLOGY OF DEATH, AND DISTRUCTION; DUMB ENOUGH TO BELIEVE THAT YOU ARE DOING GOD A FAVOR! I DO BELIEVE THESE PEOPLE ARE BORDERING ON BARBARIANISM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • tommysb5

    Good for you young people…. One should be able to sing the NATIONAL ANTHEM Anywhere in this Great Country. Take Our Country Back. RE-ELECT NOT ONE….

  • slickporsche

    Lady’s and gentlemen Lock and Load!! This is an act of aggression against the stars and stripes, and we need to fight. Please tell your children to stand up and sing it in the first class of the day, and sing it in the school assembly. NO MORE!

    This is America, and anyone that tries to tear it down, blacks,muslims, or mexicans, and or anyone else, will end up in a moldy body bag, and very dead. You can take that to the bank!!!

    • http://goggle jimradford

      iam a sixty year old man but i dam shure garrenate u that i will be there if i have the ride and what ever eles is needed.

    • http://msn.com Dottyj0

      GUESS WHAT? I AM A BLACK WOMAN AND I SAY AAAAAMEN! I AM WITH YOU. FOR ANYONE OUT THERE WHO HATES AMERICA, GET THE HELL OUT! WE WERE IN THE WORLD WHEN YOU GOT HERE AND IT WAS A BETTER PLACE BEFORE YOU CAME. GO TO EUROPE, WHERE EVERYTHING GOES. IT IS THE CONSERVATIVE MIND THAT BUILT THIS NATION. “AMERICA IS NOT PERFECT”, SAID JOHN KENNEDY,” BUT WE DON’T HAVE TO PUT UP WALLS TO KEEP PEOPLE HERE”. GO AND THE DEVIL GO WITH YOU. THIS IS GOD COUNTRY, THAT IS WHY THEY HATE IT! GET OUT. GOODBYE, DON’T COME BACK.

      • Christin

        The evil People aren’t going to leave because we want them to. They are treasonous: anti-American and anti-Capitalism and anti-Christian.

        The illegal Mexicans want jobs and freedom and many want handouts. They think this is their land anyway. Most are NOT looking to BE AMERICAN.

        The muslims were pretty much invited here by the gov immigration to help take us down spiritually through jihad islamic religion and screw up our Courts of Law with their Sharia Law. Again, most are NOT looking to BE AMERICAN.

        Their are forces – powers that be- (george soros, builderburgs…)that are pushing money at this and pulling BO (who is willing) and other politicians (hillary & congress) to vote and pass bills to become law ( 2000 page nightmares to control and micro manage “We The People” written by The Appollo Alliance… however, only our [corrupt] congress is given law making power not outside groups, judges or pres.)

        Keeping singing our “National Anthem”, “Stars and Stripes”, “Oh, say can you see” and every Patriotic American & Christian Song or hymn you know.
        May God Bless America again. God be with you all.

  • Dave and Judy

    Don’t stop being free. Don’t forget to vote in November and help clean the House & Senate. Dump the humps = CLEAN HOUSE, be a D.R.I.P.

    Don’t Reelect Incumbent Politicians

    Take back America. The voters control TERM LIMITS now exercise them!

    • JRC

      Will not happen,
      Look at the seats, look what is at stake, It is a wet dream

      • Doug

        You are nothing but a wet dream the best part of you went down you moms legs!

        • JRC

          Doug,
          Do your self a favor and do a reality check, personal insults are childish and immature. How old are you? 10?

          • Cameron

            Pot can’t call the kettle black!

          • Jana

            Wow JRC,
            You are the one that started all of this nastiness, but as a normal radical lib you cry foul when it’s turned back against you.
            You have a dirty mind and it shows.

          • http://?? Joe H.

            Jana,
            nah he doesn’t have a mind! he wore it out protesting way back when he was born. About ten, twelve years ago!!!!

      • Amy Emerson

        Hey JRC…there IS much at stake. GOOD ALWAYS WILL DEFEAT EVIL.
        Remember that. Which side are YOU on JRC????

      • az

        JRC, You are a first class idiot!! Why even bother posting your left wing garbage? Nobody is listening.

      • Jonathan

        JRC I pity you. I really do. You and Doug need to get a grip. Profanity is the great struggle of the limited mind at self expression. Let’s all remember in November and vote out as many elitists as we can.

      • http://msn.com Dottyj0

        ONLY A LIBERAL HEATHEN WOULD RELATE A COMMENT TO SOME SEXUALLY EXPLICIT IDEA. SEE WHY YOU NEED TO GO SOMEWHERE ELSE? YOU HAVE BECOME A TRASH BALL. YOU ARE NOT FIT COMPANY FOR A NATION THAT PUTS ITS’ TRUST IN GOD. YOU ARE A CHILD OF THE DEVIL!

      • http://naver Samurai

        Yes just look at them. Many lib traitors, cowards, and dem trash getting kicked to the curb in November. Let’s continue to fight to take our country back! FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

    • JeffH

      JRC is todays designated liberal hitter. It is his job to disrupt this conservative website, he’s just doing his job! Ignore and don’t offer response and he’ll eventually go away.

      • http://naver Samurai

        Right on, fellow patriot!

  • http://none Tom W.

    The 1960′s draft dodgers added a lot of case law on the subject of violation of conscience. Patriots like these (and us) may need to use that body of case law someday. Unlike the draft dodgers, flag burners, and the like, our Civil Disobedience must be expressed with firmness, respect for the rights and property of others, and with conviction that the authorities are usurping authority that is not granted to them in our Constitution.

    BTW…I am getting sick of some religious people who try to apply Romans 13 to these situations. “America is a nation of laws, not a nation of men.” We’ve all heard that phrase, but the government schools refuse to explain that to the children who are subjected to that educational path.

    Most nations have a human being at the top of their chains of command: dictators, kings, queens, presidents, prime ministers, etc., and are designated “nations of men.” In America, we say that we are a “nation of laws,” rather than “of men.” At the top of our chain of command is our Constitution, the ultimate law. Everyone, including the President of our Constitutional Republic, is under that Law (or supposed to be). It is our ultimate “authority” or “higher power” of Romans 13. In fact, “We the People,” who ratified that Document are part and parcel to that “higher power.”

    • Doug

      I’m glad to see others understand the principles of our Constitution and how Romans 13 applies to this constitutional republic (NOT democracy folks)! I am a gospel preacher (and gun owner) who is tired of hearing the unqualified statement that we ought to obey the laws of the land — PERIOD. That assumes there are no un-Constitutional laws. If a law has no authorization from the powers ENUMERATED to the government, then it is NULL & VOID! That’s what the founders said about the issue. We need more people to educate themselves on this vital issue. Don’t rely on the educational system. Most of them are products of a failed system that promotes an increasingly anti-American world view.

      • Robin from Arcadia, IN

        Doug… AMEN!

      • marvin

        Doug,,thing is we have a republic govern by democatic morons,sounds like the children. had and have some good teacher at home and school.the children are the future of the this country, as the bible said anyone that corupts one of the children it would be best if a rock was tied around there neck and cast in the sea,our goverment think it,s ok for children to have sex but they better not sing or pray

        • Cameron

          Or learn how to safely handle firearms. If education is the answer to “safe sex” & related problems, then it’s the answer to “accidental” gun deaths. Many of our enemies, past & present, require children in school to learn how to field-strip, clean, re-assemble, load & fire fully automatic weapons. What will happen if we don’t do the same?

      • JRC

        It may be a unconstitutional law in your eyes, BUT as long as it is on the books and NOT challenged in supreme court it is a valid law you will have to obey…period…otherwise you WILL end up in the slammer…period…we are a nation of laws, that is correct, but it is NOT up to you to say what law you will follow or not if it is on the books and unchallenged it is the LAW period and you better follow it or reap the consequences. Not all laws are convenient for everyone, but they apply to everyone even if it does NOT agree with OUR religious or political agenda and even if they are used against your political or religious agenda….we have to take the positive and the negative and make it work.

        • JC

          Actually it’s up to the states to recognize or nullify unConstitutional law…and the states represent “We The People”
          So it’s coming down to We The people VS. The out of control CFederal Government that represents the Globalists

          • JRC

            You are right, but that still does NOT dismiss the fact that if the law is on the books, it has to be followed…and is does NOT mater if you think it is unconstitutional or not…if you don’t like it, take your challenge to the courts….but that does NOT give you the right to ignore it or not follow it until it is declared unconstitutional and removed. As long as it is on the books it is binding and nobody gives a crap about how an individual feels about it…that is what it means to live in a nation of law….we have to uphold not only the laws WE like, but also the laws we dislike.

          • JC

            It’s not about laws we “don’t like”…it’s about laws that abrogate our Constitutional Rights. Trivializing the fact doesn’t change the fact. And when the Feds ignore our rights and create laws that are unConstitutional…we are to obey anyway?
            That sort of blind obedience certainly worked in Nazi Germany,
            but I don’t think it will fly here.
            No Sir, 1939 Germany could have used a LOT more civil disobedience and given the lesson in history, so can we.

          • az

            The Bible says we are to “obey God rather than man.” No matter what man says God will always have the last word.

          • kate8

            JC, Unfortunately, we’ve been complying with laws that are unconstitutional since politicians started making them. We’ve gotten used to it without a thought. They’ve just been getting more and more intrusive and onerous.

            We can only be held to their jurisdiction by submitting to it. Actually, accepting a SS# is the false gov’t’s claim to ownership of us. We can also expatriate without having to leave the country.

            Just look at how non-citizens are able to get away with things citizens can’t.

        • Cameron

          Jury nullification is still a valid response in States where it is “ALLOWED”.

        • Fed Up Gal in NM

          JRC,

          Oh well….we see how well (NOT) our federal government handled the black panther voter intimidation case. So…to your way of thinking it’s okay for the government to turn a blind eye to those guys for their un-civil disobedience and intimidating voters….especially white voters; but let a bunch of students sing the National Anthem on “national” property….and they should reap the rath of government stupidity?

          You may also help you to consider for a moment….that blacks should have never been required to sit in the back of the bus, but they were as history tell us. Had it not been for Rosa Parks’ defiant, yet civil disobedience….that practice might still be in place (or certainly would have taken longer to change until someone else with enough courage to stand up and be heard stepped up).

          Now, regarding your comment about this issue not being challenged in the courts yet…….please consider this: The Challenge Has Begun!

          You know JRC, things don’t always fit in a nice tidy little fish bowl you seem to be viewing life from…..please come up for air, before it’s too late :-).

          • Jeep

            And, according to JRC, Ms. Parks should have been jailed…after all, it was against the law for her to sit up front. You have to take “a positive and a negative to make it work”. Right JRC?

        • kate8

          Actually, the only SUPREME LAW is our Constitution and Bill of Rights.
          All other “laws” passed by Congress are statutes, and only binding by those under jurisdiction of maritime law. Our silence is taken by them as our assent.

          As sovereign, natural humans, we are not bound by statutes. It only covers corporate entities.

          These truths have been hidden from us. We have been grossly deceived by those who wish to enslave us. Those in power are aware of these things, and claim sovereign status. Why do you think they don’t feel bound by the same laws they impose on us?

          It’s time we become educated, folks. Only by learning the truth on a mass scale can we hope to put things right.

        • dan az

          Hey jrc
          Ues we are a nation of laws and dont you think that going around them is also breaking them? I agree that everyone should follow the letter of the law including your mosia picking and choosing the laws that he wants and changing the ones he refuses to obey.The thing is no one is above the law not even heirboma.

      • Robert Smith

        From Doug: >>>If a law has no authorization from the powers ENUMERATED to the government, then it is NULL & VOID! That’s what the founders said about the issue. We need more people to educate themselves on this vital issue.<<<

        The word "marriage" isn't in the Constitution at all. Does that mean that the government has zero authority in such? If that's the case then it defaults to the individuals involved and each of their choices. They can relate to the religion of their choice, or not. (In America even atheists can be married.)

        So, when individual freedom is at the root of marriage then same sex couples can marry, as defined by those who want to be free in America.

        Thanks for making that point, Doug.

        Rob

        • cl

          while i agree with you constitutionaly. ido not agree morally

          • Robert Smith

            From cl: >>>ido not agree morally<<<

            We should NOT ever legislate "morality."

            We are best with social contracts for practical reasons (speed limits, not murdering, and even taxes) that we agree upon as a majority.

            Rob

  • TIME

    And some of our posters here will think an act such as what this guard did would be within the relm of reason.
    Why, is the one and only question.

    Count them 80 Plus member of of Congress are known to be outright Socialist.
    I feel strongly if your a Socialist or find God Offensive,
    “You don’t need to be in any public office,” nor be paid by the American Tax Payers.

    FOLKS – in November we don’t need any more pretty faces & kiddie kissers, dead fish hand shakers, or BIG Promise makers.

    Lets clean house, and do it so the message is loud and clear,
    “NO MORE Marxist, No more Socialist, No more Progressives,”
    No more, and never again.

    • JRC

      Do yourself a big favior and reality check your statement. I see this “”in November”” statements all the time, In November we kick out the democrats and we will repeal Obama care and all those unfounded statements. It is nothing but a dream, and unfortunately many, many people repeat it without understanding the reality.

      Take a look at the seats that are up for grasp, most of them are republican seats already only a small amount are democrats. So the republicans get maybe, maybe enough votes to overturn Obama care or any other measure and then? Obama will veto it and the republicans will NOT have enough votes to overturn the veto…that is the reality of it.
      Moreover, by the time Obama is up for re-election many people will see only the positive aspects of his reign and disregard the negative.
      If the right doesn’t find a good solid candidate he will win re-election if he chooses to run.

      • TIME

        JRC,
        Its would appear that you failed to read my post – or perhaps your reading in more than whats there. You tell me.

      • Trukerdad

        You keep thinkin about Obama’s reign and the 2012 Re-election. We are gona elect people that are not gona TRY and repeal OBAMACARE while he is still president but instead WE will DEFUND it and then when WE have the House, Senate, and White House WE’LL REPEAL it and a whole bunch of other UNCONSTITUTIONAL LAWS!!! BUT YOU KEEP THE FAITH JRC!!LMAO!!!

        • JRC

          I still believe it will not happen, I can care less myself I buy my insurance privately and don’t care one way or another.

          But, repealing Obama care will be political suicide for the GOP. They do depend on a large amount of voters ..I call bottom feeders….those that have no or only a minimum of formal education and either low paying or no jobs or living on handouts..and that unfortunately is a reality. A large part of the people that have the most to gain from laws like Obama care are people that also traditionally voted republican…its not the majority but a sizable enough chunk… in a tight race..and it will be tight…losing those votes will mean losing the elections. Republicans will NOT commit political suicide neither will anyone that is newly voted in by tea party members. When it comes down to the dirt, they will not repeal it. They may change it, but not enough to mater.

          • Amy Emerson

            Hey JRC…what do you mean our president “reigns” ?? Where are you from you scumbag? Our President is an Elected official only with a limited timetable to be president. He is NOT a KING.

          • Cameron

            First, learn how to spell. Then maybe you’ll be educated enough to realize that the “bottom feeders” are those who sell their votes to the DEMOCRAT Party for “freebies” to be paid for by those who work & pay taxes. This country cannot sustain the current burden of freeloaders, let alone the increase brought on by Liberals buying more votes. When YOU get “down to the dirt”, grab a shovel ’cause you’ll be digging your own grave & the grave of someone who expects to be taken care of. Those who trade freedom for security will wind up with neither. That’s fine with me if that’s what they want, but dammit do they have to take mine too? If you want yourself, your children, & your grandchildren to be slaves, you’re on the right track supporting Liberal Democrats & their policies.

          • Jeep

            JRC, we do not have to repeal HC, just gotta defund it.

          • LocalYokel

            Then all you have to fear is the masses of bottom feeders born with a highly efficient trigger fingers and not any hope of health care other than the prevention that they profoundly enjoy. Ascertain that your burial insurance is paid up too. The line being drawn in the dust is not for a game called hopscotch where line straddling is allowed. Where will your kind stand?

          • 45caliber

            JRC:

            What do you consider “bottom Feeders”? The middle class that works and pays the tax bills? Welfare? The DEMOCRATS depend upon the Welfare vote!! Not the GOP. As far was most Republicans are concerned, if we could end that program it would be for the best for all, including those on it.

            However, I am assuming that you are referring to those of us here in the South, a hold-over from pre-Civil War days. And I assure you that we probably have as much intelligence and more common sense than you there in the North apparently has.

          • Da Norseman

            Hey JRC,

            Furthermore, there are non-citizens in this nation allowed to work tax free and that has included those here illegally, but who’s paying for it? Every working taxpaying American!!! Where does that money they get for “free” go? Back to their homelands!!! Is this the redistribution of wealth? Absolutely!!! Would they qualify for ObamaCare even if Obama said that they would not qualify? If one federal judge in the Judicial Branch (they have the final say) rules in favor of interest groups representing tax-exempt non-citizens – including illegals – who argue that they should qualify because they are living on U.S. soil, then he would have to go along with it!!! Would that cause taxes to go much higher in order to support the influx of non-citizens levied upon the hard-working citizens of our nation regardless of income? Yes!!! Are we headed from complacency to dependency? I hope not, but it sure looks like we are headed that way.

          • dan az

            JRC
            If you had read the bill then you would have known that you cant buy your own insurance that would be illegal!

          • Barry

            Yes, you buy your insurance privately, but watch the price go up significantly between now and 2014. Very significantly. The insurance companies are preparing for the “rights” for everyone to have insurance and are already reaising their rates. You, if you continue to buy your own insurance, will pay for everyone else, too. Revel in your conversion to government insurance and government regulations concerning your insurance and if you want more, yess you will pay even more. God give us the stamina to keep this up and stop this craziness surrounding all of us, even you.

      • Cameron

        JRC, for your information, AMERICAN Presidents don’t “reign” they SERVE. Maybe Venezualan President Hugo Chavez reigns, but he’s about as much freely elected as the man in the moon, like el Presidente Fidel Castro (& now Raul), like Saddam Hussein, like any “President” of Russia. However, Mr. Obama’s website did say that he would be ready to RULE from day one when elected, so I guess maybe you’re right in your mind.

  • J.M.R.

    yes good going kids

  • J.M.R.

    yes good going kids proud of you

  • Dave and Judy

    And to the fine young Americans at the Lincoln Memorial – WELL DONE!

    Thanks for being AMERICANS.

    God Bless America!

  • CORY

    Sing the National Anthem and pass the ammunition, thank you very much. The more we as a nation do not comply with the government, the more their directives will fail. Just go on with your life and ignore what crap comes out of their system. They forget where we came from. We Americans are not focused on “compliance” with their ridiculous requirements. We have always been and always will be rebels. Just ignore them, maintain business as usual, and let them fluster on. All their foolishness is becoming irrelevent.

  • William Kendig

    i think the kids did the right thing and wish more americans would speak up about their feelings about our country. we need to get back to our values and stand for something. good going kids. we love america and its dreams.bk

  • Brutus

    I totally agree with what these kids did. But who was “the tyrannical dictator responsible for the death of 700,000 people, who shredded the 10th Amendment and accelerated the nation down this path toward oppressive government” that Bob alluded to?

    • Wlmitch1

      As one Country song says, “If you don’t stand for something, then you’ll fall for anything.”

      • Wlmitch1

        The above reply was intended for William Kendig.

        In reply to Brutus, Bob regards Abraham Lincoln as “the tyrannical dictator responsible for the death” (sic) “of 700,000 people, who shredded the 10th Amendment and accelerated the nation down this path toward oppressive government.” I believe Woodrow Wilson was the first U.S. President who set us on a path toward oppressive government. Wilson introduced the Income Tax in 1913, and resegregated the U.S. Government and U.S. Military along racial lines.

        • Amy Emerson

          I agree one hundred percent!

        • AnhydrousBob

          Bob properly regards Abraham Lincoln as the Tyrant he was. Up until that time, Secession had been regarded by most Americans as the last resort to unconstitutional action by the Federal government. In fact, until Lincoln started imprisoning newspaper editors, many of them in the North strongly supported the rights of Secession by any state.

          If a man comes to you and says you have violated a contract between the two of you and he wants out, you can do like Lincoln and beat him to a pulp and place your boot on his neck until he agrees to stay in the contract on your NEW terms, but you have not nullified his right to leave it – the war proved nothing except the tyranny of might.

          Wilson came much later, and although he was bad enough, Lincoln was the one who “shredded the 10th Amendment” like Bob says.

          A very good book to read on this topic is “The Real Lincoln” by Thomas DiLorenzo.

        • alpha-lemming

          All correct….. Wilson was probably the WORST in terms of damge to the country. However, some Republican icons (Lincoln, Teddy R) DEFINATELY laid the ground-work for castrating Federalism/States Rights and set us on our present road to serfdom under this oligarchy.

        • dan az

          Wlmitch1
          Wasn’t he also the one that signed on to the federal reserve act? then wrote in his memwaus that he had sent this nation down the drain?
          sorry for the spelling!

    • Cameron

      Study history, & not the sanitized version taught is public schools. I’m a product of that august institution but I’m self-taught since then. The first draft riots weren’t in the 1960′s, but in the 1860′s, in New York! That other tall skinny lawyer/President from IL (bred & born elsewhere also) suspended the Constitution in the name of “the good of the Nation”. Whatcha wanna bet this’n’ll try it too?

  • Ken

    Yeah for the youth! They are the ones we are stealing from. Adults of America, stop stealing, stand up and help preserve the republic our Founding Fathers meant to survive for future generations.

    We need to re-establish the principles of morality and religion, the two most important pillers of foundation of our nation (George Washington).

    • Robert Smith

      Ahhh, George Washington: “….I beg you be persuaded that no one would be more zealous than myself to establish effectual barriers against the horrors of spiritual tyranny, and every species of religious persecution.” [George Washington, to United Baptists Churches of Virginia, May, 1789 from The Washington papers edited by Saul Padover]

      George Washington was a Mason. He respected all religions, and even men who had no religion. “If they are good workmen, they may be from Asia, Africa or Europe; they may be Mahometans, Jews, Christians of any sect, or they may be Atheists….” [George Washington, to Tench Tighman, March 24, 1784, when asked what type of workman to get for Mount Vernon, from The Washington papers edited by Saul Padover]

      Thomas Jefferson worked on a bible that pretty much eliminated Jesus.

      Rob

      • Cameron

        I guess you were there, Mr. Rob’t Smith? Some of my ancestors worked on Mt. Vernon as craftsmen (George Washington’s Mount Vernon), & while TJ wasn’t perfect (no one is, including YOU) he was a damned sight better’n what we’ve had for YEARS.

        • Robert Smith

          From Cameron: >>>I guess you were there, Mr. Rob’t Smith?<<>> Some of my ancestors worked on Mt. Vernon as craftsmen (George Washington’s Mount Vernon),<<<

          Yup. So did the ancestors of a lot of black folks who were slaves on the estate. I'd be interested in getting some information that they may have passed down also.

          So, do you have an you have any citations you might quote along with some sources?

          BTW, you might get some real information by going to the George Washington Masonic Memorial in Alexandria, VA. They have many of his papers and artifacts from his life.

          Rob

  • http://www.infowars.com Th3D3adM3ssenGer

    Wake up and smell the fascism…
    if you can handle the Truth:
    PLEASE take the time to watch these movies. The knowledge therein is the KEY to saving the country and the whole world from the nefarious banksters. Also, PLEASE pass this knowledge on to EVERYBODY… the future of Human Freedom DEPENDS on our species understanding the complex nature of our plight.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-CrNlilZho

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAaQNACwaLw

  • AZ Jack

    Ten thousand cheers to the Young Americans who refused to kowtow to an ignorant thug who tried to shut them down. Maybe their actions and patriotism will give the rest of us a little backbone. We need to stop acting like sheep being led to the slaughter.

  • Wlmitch1

    Kudos to those brave young Conservatives who stood up to the Leftist, Politically Correct park police. There IS hope for America.

    • eddie47d

      So now the park police are un-American leftists or at least until you may need them for a conservative rally or protest. Get real!

      • Amy Emerson

        Hey Eddie…YOU know and I know that the park cop was WRONG! This is a bunch of CRAP. Is there a LAW that actually says its AGAINST the law to sing the NATIONAL ANTHEM in AMERICA? If so, I would like to see it!!! Are you a complete idiot or are you ONE OF THEM???

        • http://naver samurai

          Now, now, Amy, don’t jump so much on Edduh! He just hasn’t taken his psych meds yet today!

      • alpha-lemming

        What happened to Libertarian Eddie??… I kinda like him!!

        “Special EDdie” would need watering twice a week if his IQ was any lower!!

      • LocalYokel

        Your liberal owned media would surely have not missed a chance to twist any shadow of a need for police at a conservative rally into a full blown daily repeatable news event to replace some of the degenerately verbose puke that is their standard form of self entertainment. What more “real” do you require?

  • FlaJim

    At a content-neutral site, is it also forbidden to flourish the Stars and Stripes? Never know who that might offend.

    Bob, I’m glad to see someone else who recognizes that Lincoln was a tyrant who shredded the Constitution.

    • dan az

      Flajim
      Did you know that he to was half black?

  • Karen

    Brutus, the reference must be Abraham Lincoln and state’s rights, because that was the REAL reason for the ‘northern agression’… kb

    • Robert Smith

      Karen posted: >>>Brutus, the reference must be Abraham Lincoln and state’s rights, because that was the REAL reason for the ‘northern agression’…<<<

      Let's talk about state's rights. Over a dozen states have VOTED to legalize medical pot. Arrests are down because Obama respectes the rights of those states and how they want to regulate pot. Oregon particularly VOTED twice to allow assisted suicide. Ashcroft personally tried to toss those elections. He lost.

      Ain't state's rights great! Oops maybe not. Please clarify that state's rights are OK if you agree with it. What excuses do you have for the Bush administration denying particularly big issues?

      Rob

      • Cameron

        The Constitution designates certain rights to the Federal Government, and the rest are left to the States. Ever since the 1860′s the Federal Government has usurped more & more power & more & more rights from the States, like it or not.
        The War began when the Northern States’ Senators tried to enact a law requiring all Territories admitted to the Union as States must be “free States” only, no more could be admitted as “slave states”. The Southern States (rightfully) saw this as an infringement on States’ Rights & lawfully rebelled to leave the Union. The rebellion failed & the result is what we have today. By the way it was NOT a “civil war” because the rebels never had any intention of overthrowing the Union government or of replacing any of the duly elected servants.

        • Cameron

          Oops! I meant “certain GOVERNING rights…

        • LocalYokel

          Never omit that the federal budget was sourced from cotton tariffs (taxes) imposed on cotton exported from slave states. Tariffs from South Carolina and Georgia comprised 80% of Federal budget. Allowing the successions that were guaranteed before any states would agree to become a union would have shutdown the federal government in times before the magnificent Federal Reserve Act was enacted

      • LocalYokel

        Sorry. Haven’t seen any mentioned here deserving of defense. The situation at hand definitely requires massive offending. Only daily attention is needed for a unanimous conviction with or without media whitewash or court protection.

      • dan az

        Robert Smith
        Let’s talk about state’s rights. Over a dozen states have VOTED to legalize medical pot. Arrests are down because Obama respectes the rights of those states and how they want to regulate pot.
        He being a pot smoker what would you expect? At least He didn’t legalize CRACK being one of his favorites along with BJ’s in the back of limoes.His buddies will account for that.

  • Grandpa47

    I’am 63yrs old and just finnished watching the video of those kids singing at Lincoln Memorial and I want to tell I had TEARS comming down my face hearing those kids sing the National Anthem.I was never so PROUD to be an AMERCIAN as then.I’am very PROUD of those young “men and women” and hope that when they get older they will run for the Senate or Congress and will replace the “GARBAGE” that is there now.Your parents should be and probably are VERY PROUD of you.Thank you for being TRUE AMERCIANS.

    • Robert Smith

      Hi Grandpa47,

      >>>I’am 63yrs old and just finnished watching the video of those kids singing at Lincoln Memorial and I want to tell I had TEARS comming down my face hearing those kids sing the National Anthem<<<

      About ten years ago a group of Pagans were shut down at the Jefferson Memorial for singing. Would you stand up for their rights to sing too?

      Rob

      • Cameron

        As long as they were singing the National Anthem ,or another patriotic song, YES!!!

        • Robert Smith

          Hi Cameron,

          >>>As long as they were singing the National Anthem ,or another patriotic song, YES!!!<<<

          Ah, as long as it's something YOU approve of. Interesting.

          What the song was "God" (by some) and "Goddess" (by some) Bless America. And, some folks were singing both. It was a little confusing but it was great to hear the diversity.

          Rob

          • Da Norseman

            Hi Robert Smith,

            }}}What the song was “God” (by some) and “Goddess” (by some) Bless America. And, some folks were singing both. It was a little confusing but it was great to hear the diversity{{{.

            Would you stand up for a group of people who would sing the Nazi anthem “Horst-Wessel Lied” (Horst-Wessel Song) in honor of what was their “hero” on public land?

          • dan az

            Da Norseman
            did you really think that you would get a reply?
            Good one though

          • Robert Smith

            Question asked: >>>Would you stand up for a group of people who would sing the Nazi anthem “Horst-Wessel Lied” (Horst-Wessel Song) in honor of what was their “hero” on public land?<<<

            Although I'd not like it I would stand up for their right to free speech. I watched some skin heads march in VA and booed them with MY free speech. After all, this is America. Would you deny something being said simply because you don't like it?

            BTW, I'd support a property owner of land not open to the public to deny such a demonstration in support of anything but what they want to support. After all, privacy is privacy.

            Rob

  • Retired Chief Petty Officer

    MR. Livingston:

    I applaud your support of civil disobedience, but your offhand reference to President Lincoln as a Tyrannical Dictator was a little over the top for my taste. If Mr. Lincoln had ignored the isolation and blockade of Fort Sumpter in Charleston Harbor, he would have failed in his oath of office. If he had not summoned the militia to put down an illegal rebellion, i.e. those who fired on the American fort Sumpter with cannon, he would have been subject to impeachment. You cannot dismiss all the actions taken by Southern extremists and sympathizers to cherry pick your facts and condemn the sitting president for calling up the troops. There was more than enough blame to spread around to all the leaders, North and South. Inflamed passions lead to war (i.e. The Spanish American War). I will grant you that Mr. Lincoln did overreach himself with his Habeus Corpus rulings and similar stretches such as suppression of some newspapers. Compare him to Obama and his indiscretions are but tiny footnotes compared to the actions of our current president. You must judge people objectively and mitigate actions by their context. Until you express universal and complete disapproval of Manifest Destiny, of land purchases and of participation in World War II, you have not the legs to stand on in your one-sided contentious consignment of Abraham lincoln to the trash heap of history.

    • JC

      RCPO, I respect your opinion…but Lincoln had to provoke the first shot. Which he did to get a war of control going for his masters…the banking elite of the day.

      • Robert Smith

        JC posted: >>> Lincoln had to provoke the first shot. Which he did to get a war of control going for his masters…the banking elite of the day.<<<

        Does anyone else remember the Gulf of Tonkin Incident?

        Oh, oh! Does anyone else remember "weapons of mass distruction?"

        (hand high in the sky) I do! I do! I do!

        Rob

        • LocalYokel

          Neither does anyone remember the piracy committed in international waters of the USS Pueblo (AGER-2), which was captured on January 23, 1968 by the Democratic People’s Republic of Korea. (Read “Bucher, My Story” by the captain of the vessel)
          Then you can qualify for questioning of another misdirected Democratic President thrust into command of warfare by the advice of the czar DC talking heads provided by the real world maker and shaker organizations.and responsible for designing the “Great Society” legislation that included laws that upheld civil rights, Public Broadcasting, Medicare, Medicaid, environmental protection, aid to education, and his “War on Poverty.” Notice the planting of the socialist trees that are being groomed today? He was renowned for his domineering personality and the “Johnson treatment,” his arm twisting of powerful politicians in order to advance legislation. Notice both the same agenda and methodology used to force passage of destructive legislation today. Both LBJ and BHO had the audacity to claim glory for their vote buying actions and the latter will face the same political fate as the former..
          Then ask yourself “Just what has the attitude of the president of Syria have to do with the delay of the attack just long enough to permit the last truck of a convoy to get across the Syrian / Iraq border with tyrants on both sides”? Did you miss that part? There much to learn if one can just get one’s head out of the mass media landfill.

          • Robert Smith

            From LocalYokel: >>>There much to learn if one can just get one’s head out of the mass media landfill.<<<

            Yup, Rush, Glen, Bill… Excellent reverence "media landfill." I'm oging to use that. Thank you.

            Rob

    • Cameron

      The War of Secession, aka the Second American Revolution, aka the “Civil” War, was entirely legal. Congress tried to usurp States’ Rights un-Constitutionally, forcing the Southern States to act. Lincoln’s election was the final straw, the match that lit the fuse, & that fact was well-known then.

    • AnhydrousBob

      Mr RCPO,

      You wrote “If he had not summoned the militia to put down an illegal rebellion, …”

      Many at the time, and apparently several of us writing to you now do not see any difference between the “secession” of the colonies of America from Great Brittan and the secession of the southern states during the War of Northern Aggression.

      In fact, the Declaration of Independence talks of one people separating themselves from another. So your idea of an “illegal rebellion” does not hold water, unless you consider the American Revolution also to be illegal.

      • LocalYokel

        It obviously depends on where on intends to stand when the line is drawn. It must be tough to make the decision when one’s ideology has elevated them in their own little minds high above factual historical reality.

  • Jim & Family

    Mr. Obama was elected on the WORD CHANGE. Most Americans thought that he could change everything right away. Well the only thing he changed was to give American taxpayers money away to Millionaires who then gave large bonus’ to other millionaires. He then tells all the other countries how sorry we are for being Americans. He says we are sorry for having our Twin Towers blown up!! Now He thinks he is a Dictator not the President of the (used to be) Greatest Country in the world. Remember people he is a Muslim & admits it. And now after all the terrorists attacks on us he wants to have a Muslim postage stamp. COME ON AMERICA WAKE UP!!! GOD BLESS AMERICA

    • Fay

      Bravo well said. I agree those Children and those who joined them are what We all need to be. Believing in Our Country and maybe then We can get it back Have a back bone America and as My Dad use to say if You can’t stand then stand a broom up and tie it to Your back then maybe You will have one. Stand up United States of America

      • dennis W

        HAS HE HAD HIS ‘LOGO’ MADE INTO A FLAG FOR THE ‘WHITE HOUSE’ YET.?????

        LOOKS LIKE A ‘TARGET’…..’LOCK & LOAD’ … YOU’LL SEE IT HAS NO ‘RED, WHITE AND BLUE’ …. DOES THAT TELL YOU ANYTHING ?????

    • http://goggle jimradford

      to jim & family, you are so wright on all of the things u have said, and there needs to be more people like u and i to sign a inpeachment papper to get his muslim but out of office, and as far as the mosk or what ecer its called that is a big nononononono, and for the stamp, put a stamp on him and send him home,america love it or leave it, is what this vet says, thanks for saying what you did.

      • JRC

        You will have to find a different reason to impeach him, being Muslim is NOT reason enough to impeach him. Nowhere does it say in the constitution that the president of the US has to be a christian or that he can not be a Muslim, Hindu, Wicca, or even a Satan worshiper. His religion be it whatever it may be, is not a legal reason for impeachment.

        people say he is not an American…well, that is for the courts to decide…think about this, with all the billboards and so called uproar of the right over his birth certificate, the biggest coup he could do is to present his birth certificate at re-election and thus point out what nuts all the people on the right are that questioned it…..this will right there pull the rug out from under the right. This is one of the main reason there is no broad support for this issue in congress, those in power do NOT want to commit political suicide.

        • eddie47d

          They are committing political suicide right now with all their conspiracy rants.They may win in the short term but if their theories don’t pan out (death camps,chemtrails,martial laws)then the public will see who they really are.

        • Amy Emerson

          Hey JRC…just so you KNOW..OBAMA LIED and SAID he was a “Christian” when he came into office. Secondly, If All Religion is allowed to be FREE in America than how come Obama shut down the National Day of Prayer for Christians and allowed the Muslims to have THEIR national day of prayer later on??? Also, WHERE IS THE BIRTH CERIFICATE stating he was born in the United States of America? Our constitution states that only if you are BORN on American Soil that you can run for office. Why were all of his records sealed if he did not have something to HIDE???? You are a complete idiot or you are an enemy of our United States of America. Which is it?

          • Cameron

            He’s both!

        • Cameron

          He cannot produce a legal, real American birth certificate because THERE ISN’T ONE! There are people in US government offices that can produce a Martian birth certificate if one is needed, & produce the paper backtrail to “prove” it’s legitimate. Not only can he not prove he was born on American soil, but he can’t show proof he ever attended or graduated from any of the schools he claims to have attended or taught classes at. The man is a complete fabrication from the get-go. Released records show he was born six months after his parents married (he was almost a true bastard). Did her Daddy paint the shotgun white for a formal ceremony or black to mourn what his daughter spawned?

        • dennis W

          HEY JRC….is that a contraction for JeRC …?
          Thank you for making your acquaintance.. I see you every day when I take my dog to the dog park..You sure do get around..I thought those were just piles of dog feces, but ‘lo and behold’ they were you all the time..I do apologize….Now I can finally say, “HI, JRC”……….
          YOU REALLY SHOULD DO SOMETHING ABOUT YOUR SMELL THOUGH…’B.O., IS DISGUSTING…….

        • LocalYokel

          Broad support? Sorry dude but those in power have already committed political suicide by committing such audacious miscarriages of procedure to promote your chosen one’s agenda. With such a featherbed retirement the only thing they fear would you be early excavation at their grave sites. Impeachment would only paint a pretty picture of legitimacy that is totally absent from his resume. When he can’t even produce a legitimate social security number why would anyone expect anything but other forged documents like those signed by his party officials when verifying his lack of qualifications? Can you see now that the tsunami caused by delayed discovery process will totally expunge your whole party? The latest game is lower court defense by delay and stacking of tainted justices at the top level. Lower courts are beginning to bend from the winds of public exposure. Discovery in three states is looming. Your very best outlook demands that if you win , you lose.

    • dennis W

      I APOLOGIZE…….MY RESPONCE TO YOU WAS POSTED TO FAY’S COMMENTS…

  • Ruth Hartline

    If we forget God we’re sunk! Our victory will come through God Almighty as we take our stand,pray,sing,march,speak,unite. God help us! In our weakness, He is strong!

  • Charles

    Maybe the left, mainstream media and the Obama Admninistration is finding out that there is really more love and heart for America than what many Americans feel is in the White House. May God bless these young people, and may God Bless America!!!

  • Eddie

    Resistance to tyranny is obedience to God. The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time , with the blood of patriots and tyrants. “That government is best which governs the least, because its people discipline themselves.”– Thomas Jefferson This republic was not established by cowards; and cowards will not preserve it. ~~Elmer Davis “The Constitution only gives people the right to pursue happiness. You have to catch it yourself.” –Benjamin Franklin A government that is big enough to give you everything you want, is big enough to take everything you have. Thomas Jefferson

    These are some inspirational quotes from some of our great founders. Please by all means pass them on, especially to kids. They need to know from whence we came !

    • Robert Smith

      Eddie posted: >>>Resistance to tyranny is obedience to God.<<<

      Hmmmmm… What about "Render to Cesar?" Who was it who said that? Seems to me that rebellion isn't the only way to deal with a government.

      Rob

  • vance drake

    impeach ob now and the rest kick them out before it to late.
    a pruod american viet nam vet.god bless the USA

    • Chuck

      Hey Vance– I’m Proud of you and your service as a Viet Nam Vet.Stand TALL,Bro.,and God bless you for your service as well to our great nation.
      Korean vet here

      • Jeep

        Thanks for your service, Chuck.

    • Shirley

      Vance, I agree with you 100%. GOD BLESS those young people. I’m 73 years old and have seen our America going down drasticly since you know who became pres. (even his grandmother says he wasn’t born in America cause she was there). Be sure to vote in November cause as my Dad always said,”if you don’t vote then keep your mouth shut”. We have got to do something to get our America back and away from this rotting stuff. May God protect us if we don’t correct it. THIS IS GOD’S PROPERTY and we aren’tdoing a very good job of protecting it anymore. We need to stand up for our rights. Obama’s wages are paid by us and he sure is taking more vacations (he call’s them meetings with overseas nations) than he spends in the white house and his lovely wife spent $6,500 a night per room for her trip to Spain. Wish I could take a trip like that. I’m tired of our country being ruined. GOD BLESS THOSE YOUNG PEOPLE AGAIN.

      • Cameron

        If she’s lovely then I’m flipping gorgeous!!!

        • dan az

          Cameron
          I’ll bet you are

      • kate8

        Shirley, Interesting point you made, about the rest of us being unable to afford vacations like Queen Michelle takes on our dime.

        Funny, it’s the lefties who rant on about unfair it is that the rich get to do things that the poor can’t do. Yet, it is these same lefties spouting about “spreading the wealth” who hold on tightly to their own, while grabbing ours, and living more extravagantly than anyone else.

        A perfect example of their hypocracy. It shows how they appeal emotionally to the poor masses in order to gain power, but don’t walk their talk. They laugh at us all the way to the bank. And to Spain, and London, and Copenhagen…

    • dan az

      Vance drake
      It’s kinda different to have people thank you for your service isn’t it?
      Allot better than spitting on you when getting off the plane dont ya think? thanks bud

  • sean murrey

    pround of you kids.

  • talk radio listener

    Yes, I agree it is time to “CLEAN YOUR HOUSE”…as you will also have to clean out the “UNDER GOVERNMENT”, who is REALLY running the government that you see in the White House. That includes the Feds, the Illuminati, the big banking….who’ve been stealing all of your money and using it for their own projects….like underground facilities in many places, black ops – and covert plans. We must get rid of them before they destroy us all, and get rid of HAARP in Alaska as they are using that for destructive things as well…they can control the weather with it, and create lightening, and use it for weather wars, etc., just read about it. It is another evil project they have installed. There is too much they are doing without the people’s knowledge, but they’re using your money to do it….that includes the so called “bailouts”…where did that money really go? Is NO ONE accountable to the American people????? We’ve got to stand up to them and get rid of the Federal Reserve. It is a private company, it is no part of the government. Take back America!!!

    • Robert Smith

      Hi talk radio listener,

      You sent: >>>and get rid of HAARP in Alaska as they are using that for destructive things as well…they can control the weather with it, and create lightening, and use it for weather wars, etc., just read about it.<<>>Breaking Point 2000 ISBN 0-425-17693-2 Morrison, another great scientist, uses Extremely Low Frequencies (ELF) to turn large groups of people mad, so they start attacking each other. The Chinese are prepared to pay $400 million for his information and Morrison is prepared to deal. He hires Ventura, an assassin turned bodyguard, to protect him. In a tense finale, both Morrison, Ventura and the Chinese <<<

      Ventura is a fictional creation, not Jessie.

      Looks like all the other stuff about HAARP is fiction also.

      Rob

      • kate8

        RS, Just keep living in your dream world…

        Sounds like you just don’t have a clue.

        • dan az

          Kate8
          If he had a clue then he wouldn’t need to be here trying to figure out who he is!

  • Lloyd Revalee

    We can demonstrate our patriotism anywhere and anytime we so desire, and no one should interfere. Those fine young people felt the need to sing the National Anthem to show their love for their country, because the Lincoln Memorial reminded them that we once had great President that put his country before himself. When I went to school in a little old one room school house (many, many years ago) We pledged allegiance to the flag and country every morning, and sang the National Anthem. I don’t recall when they stopped this practice, but they never should have.

    One thing I do not like about the article, is calling the guard a brown shirted thug. That individual is just a normal American citizen, doing what he supposed was right, even though it was ill conceived. Too many people in our country worry too much about offending someone. If there are people who are offended by a group of patriotic young people singing our National Anthem, then they are in the wrong place. I am sure the guard is aware of this now.

    • marvin

      Lloyd Revalee,, if you know someting is wrong don,t do it, the children had a right to to do what they were doing sanging,the guard was wrong in trying to stop them,are goverment allows illegals to march and demand rights they do not have but try to stop legal americans from there god given and constitutional rights to speak

  • Jim & Family says:

    To fellow Senior Citizens, Mr. Obama now wants to give Amnesty Social Security and Medicare benefits to Illegal Immigrants just to have a large block of voters for hi re-election. They also want to tax money that has already been taxed. Think about what would happen if we were to sneak into Mexico. You would be put into jail for life. Also Social Security & Medicare would be fine if those thieves would quit stealing our money for their own personal agenda’s. You notice they always say they are just borrowing it but when do the ever pay it back?? If we Seniors had the pensions that Congressmen have for just serving four years we would never have to worry again!!!THINK ABOUT IT Seniors the next time you vote.

    • Cameron

      One big lie AlGore et al have spouted for years is the “SS Lockbox” nonsense. SS has operated on borrowed money since its inception. Congress can’t leave designated funds alone or they’d have no “spending money”.

  • Reggie Brian

    The protester (I’ll use that term for the sake of simplicity) had the right words in reply. “Who says?” indeed. And I have an answer for that question when it gets turned around to us, as well it should.

    “We the People” say, that is who! I think that we, the people, have had enough of this little experiment, trying to find out if there is a better way to be governed. We tried one way for over 200 years, and some people didn’t like it, so they wanted to change our culture, perhaps to be more like Europe. We knew that the nation could survive the hit from this temporary test, and we were right (pun intended). But now the experiment is over, and we have a satisfying answer to the question.

    We do the same thing in engineering, by trying a new design for a computer or cell phone or other “new and improved” gadget.

    It’s time to go back to the original specification, since that one went through all the proper process. Marketing spec, design spec, design review, debate, ratification, and most importantly, the test of time. In the case of the American Representative Republic, this is the product we have for sale here, and if you don’t like it, you are free to purchase it from another vendor at their location. We have no restrictions on your travel out of this country.

    Be sure to write, and tell us how it is going in that new country of yours. We’ll wait here.

    • http://goggle jimradford

      and we might even pay a one way ticket for you, and your family if u have one that is,this sixty lear old vet gets preety upset when any body in office to serve us does no do what they say they will do when in office, if the obummer man wants to have a mosk or what ever and a american stamp for muslims no way, use a stamo and send him back were he came from, america love it or leave it, but dont harm it.

    • Cameron

      Where’s the bon voyage party? I know the champagne will be free!

      • Cameron

        The last thing I ever want to see of any Liberal is the door hitting him in the rear ’cause he’s moving too slow on his way out!

  • marvin

    people a country is no better that it,s legel citizens,you can pickup a handful of dirt and mix with water and bake and call it a mud pie,you can take a black man and his wife [not all blacks]that dispise all white people and think you owe them and call him a president,but like the mud pie,it is still not a pie ,and obama is not a president of all the people,and we have children that he and the liberal are stealing there inheritance and placing them in grave danger of not being free, i say the bible and the constitution say just what they say,and when a goverment goes aginst ether one it is time for the people to put there foot down and i an,t talking about bp, our children are like a computer truth in truth out,garbage in garbage out,power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutly,obama said he is looking for who,s ass to kick,well we know who,s ass to kick and it starts in 2010 in november and 2012, vote

    • eddie47d

      Obama doesn’t hate white people so that sounds like something Glenn Beck or Rush would say.So where did you get your information? Mr Bush wasn’t President to all Americans either but that’s the way it happens sometimes.(Bush favored businesses that failed us so does that make him un-American?)

      • Cameron

        Show me where Mr. Obama loves ANY God-fearing, Bible-loving, gun-owning AMERICAN, white OR black. Just because he claims to have been reared by his white grandmother doesn’t mean he loved her. All his mentors during his formative years were black activists who espoused black racism & Communism & Socialism. That’s a fact, Jack. Look it up if you want to know the truth, IF you can handle the truth.

        • JC

          He certainly doesn’t seem to mind that Amerians living near the southern border are killed with impunity by foreign paramiltary groups.
          But threaten Israel and “hoo boy” lookout here comes half the US navy to the rescue.
          The guys is anti-American and pro-Globalist…it’s just too obvious.

  • Pathos

    There is hope for this country!! I try to tell friends and family about what is happening in this country and they say “thats boring” or “thats depressing”! I ve met other people that are alarmed and want to do something about it. But most people just want to ignore these problems. I can hardly wait til November! WTG KIDS!

  • Raggs

    We are fools if we let the progressives get away with this!

    • Karolyn

      Get away with what? They weren’t arrested and were treated the same way anyone who came there and sang an anthem would be. Making a big deal out of nothing, like so many things these days. I am what I would call a sensible liberal (I take into account both “sides”) and do see nothing wrong with what these kids did.

      • Amy Emerson

        Hey Karolyn…you say your’e a “sensible liberal”. What exactly is that? If you honestly think it’s ok for this type of harrasment to be handed the American People maybe you should move to IRAN and see how “sensible ” THEIR Islamic Government is twoards “sensible liberals” like you. I am sorry you do not see the big picture. Are you ready to be chipped now?

        • Karolyn

          There you go with the ridiculous conservative rhetoric. I do understand where you’re coming from, whether you believe it or not; however, I’m just tired of the constant nag, nag, nag, of conservatives over the same thing over, and over, and over. OMG, the President blew his nose in a Pakistani hanky!!!! Lock and Load!

      • Cameron

        “Sensible Liberal” is truly an oxymoron!

        • Karolyn

          Not really. I see and hear what you guys are saying, and it does make me think and question. However, your methods and words are offputting.

  • Marilyn

    I’m very proud of these children and anyone who joined in. It’s about time because had that been a group of Muslims with their paryer rugs, the brown shirts would have said Nothing. Yeah! For our American young people who have some backbone to do the right thing. Put that in your hat Obama and eat it.

  • Joseph C. Moore, Cpo USN Ret.

    Perhaps the country is not permanently lost if these children are future leaders of this wayward Republic.

  • Angel Wannabe

    I’m Proud as Hell of these kids___LET FREEDOM RING!

  • 2WarAbnVet

    You people need to stop belittling Obarfa! After all, as he tells us, his five year old father fought in World War II.

    • Cameron

      Yeah, & AlGore was the inspiration for “Love Story” & he invented the internet. My father served in the CBI Theater & never met that war hero.

  • Jim

    Doug…. Sing on brother….

  • http://bobandgail.integrity4u.us/ Gail Blair

    Blessings in double portions to all who participated including the brown shirt.

  • http://foxnews s c2

    These children are more grown up and will sacrifice a lot to save our country . They are our future generation and they are ones to be proud of .Come on America kick the present leaders out of office and get in new people that are citizens of the United States and care about America!We need not promises but action as soon as possible before it is too late to reverse what the present administration has done to our country!

  • NormP

    Had I been there I would have joined in. Just another tho’t, could some of you folks work on your grammar and spelling? Makes your comments less powerful when they cannot be understood due to poor language skills. I believe also that the powers that Mr. Lincoln exercised were to be temporary powers, and as soon as possible they were returned to the people where they STILL belong.
    As for those kids, THANK YOU. There may yet be real hope for our republic.

    • Amy Emerson

      Dear Norm… I know that most people don’t have the grammer skills for writing (due to poor education in our own country) but, you have to give them credit for at least standing up against tryanny.

    • JeffH

      NormP, check your own house first…tho’t?

  • marvin

    only way for bad [evil]people to win is for good [godly]people to do nothing,this country is a christan nation not islamic,marriage is one man one woman your wife is not your property she is your soul mate,the bible saz be ever prayful not just 5 times a day, yes you can eat pork, no you can not as a man or woman sleep with the same sex but if you do don,t ask me to condone [god condemned it],when and if i break the law i pay so don,t ask me to look the other way when you do,the laws saz if i come in to your house or property unenvited i go to jail,the law saz if you come in to this country unenvited[illegally] you will be arrested jailed and deported,but all is not lost we have some children that don,t belive the lie,s and know right from wrong

  • http://Cox Frank Ellis

    You are spot on about Lincoln, but I believe the actual number of Americans that died in that horrible war was closer to 600,000. That was a very large % of that days population. Slavery, of course, was a terrible evil, and the Confederacy would have had to end it within a few more years w/o all the terrible slaughter. THAT IS NOT WHY LINCOLN FOUGHT ANYWAY; HE FOUGHT TO PRESERVE THE UNION. So many people now do not know the history of that time period. That really doesn’t matter so much in todays crises, but the thugs that have taken over Washington, and now are moving as fast as possible to take over all of America do matter. THEY MUST BE STOPPED!

    • Cameron

      President Lincoln is recorded as saying that he didn’t care if slavery continued as long as the Union was preserved. When he “freed” the slaves with the Emancipation Proclamation, it applied ONLY to the States that had seceded & were NOT under Union control. (He did not believe them to be on equal footing with whites, & thought they were too dumb to be educated.) It was equivalent to Mr. Obama declaring that certain laws in Mexico are not valid. General Grant owned slaves until slavery in the (Northern) United States was outlawed in Dec, 1865, while General Lee freed the slaves gifted to him by his father-in-law. People (in general) “up North” even today have a lower opinion of blacks than people “down South”, and that goes back to before the War began in 1861. History is fascinating when you learn the truth, so you won’t be doomed to repeat it. Never again must America EVER elect another President with ANY association to IL.

      • Jeep

        Cameron, you are wrong about Grant. He only ever owned one slave (which is one too many), but Grant freed him in 1859. William Jones was probably “given” to Grant by his father-in-law. Keep in mind that in 1859 Grant was deperately poor when he freed William.

        Lee on ther hand probably only personally owned one slave (again, one too many). The 1000+ slaves at Arlington were owned by his father-in-law and upon his death in 1858, Lee became the executor of the estate with a provision that all slaves would be freed within five years. In 1862 Lee issued an “deed of manumission” for all the slaves of the Custis estate who were still behind Confederate lines. For all intents, Arlington was already in Federal hands and all had been “freed” before the order was issued.

  • http://goggle jimradford

    iam back,qusetion one, who gave the muslims power to even thaink of doing things in america that would show there country or anything they might have to say, i did not hear of any voteing to do so,and as for our muslim president who should not be there, he does not have any wrights any way shap or form to have a mosk or a us postage stamp allowed to show muslims, this country was not made by them, and for the kids u go guys,keep it going, this vet loves ya.

    • Karolyn

      What does that have to do with the topic here?

  • http://none sean moor

    I wished i had the BALLS that these young lads have.sometimes i do display courage.and its hard to do.but i do feel better afterwards.I am hoping that one day i can stand with these brave young americans,and stand agaisnt the evil ones and be proud i am an american. p.s was lincoin really a bad person.I have read it.

  • http://personalliberty.com Tracie

    I just heard Glenn Beck say that The Kennedy Center has told him that at his 8/28 event, they cannot pray.
    Well, Beck set them straight…he said I WILL PRAY!!!! I was cheering him on in my livingroom…WE THE PEOPLE SHOULD ALL STAND UP TO THESE TYRANTS IN D.C.
    And as far as the mosque is concerned…there ARE ways to prevent it from going forward, you know, permit problems…construction issues, all sorts of reasons.
    And, God bless ALL of you who fought in ANY war to protect this great country from tyrants like those in d.c. now…I am SO proud to be American born and raised…We just have to stand up to them…a bully is a bully until you stand up to them…then they run the other way.

    • 45caliber

      There are ways to slow or stop it – but not when the authorities are the ones willing to push it. The city staff from mayor down likes the idea of a multi-million dollar mosque there that might draw in millions of pilgrims from around the world to spend their money. So they don’t care what reason it was built or what it is built to.

      • Karolyn

        That is such BS. New York has enough income without wanting to attract “pilgrims” to a mosque. Is that what you think this place is gonna be? I assumed it would be a area-wide access place of worship and fellowship.

    • Cameron

      I come from a long line of military vets & patriots, all the way back to 1066 & the Battle of Hastings. Must be the Viking bloodline. My forefathers served w/Washington in the French&Indian War through Valley Forge, & every conflict since. I salute every vet who has answered this country’s call, even though my country didn’t want me (hearing impairment) during the late ’60′/early ’70′s. What the Hell’s hearing got to do with anything? I had good eyesight & I could already shoot well. What country boy couldn’t back then? So, I’m not a vet, but not by my choice, & I hope you vets don’t hold it against me. My first cousin was a medic in a Ranger unit, & he saw enough s#!^ for both of us. God bless you all.

  • Karolyn

    Just another blog to ramp up controversy where there is none. The kids didn’t get dragged off in handcuffs, did they? If it had been anybody else, they would have been treated the same. It’s a big deal over nothing, and I see postings here that are going all over the place, from gay marriage to muslims. What’s up with that? We don’t know if it was an act of civil disobedience or not in the kids’ minds. If there were signs saying “no singing,” that would be one thing; but they just felt like singing, so what’s the big stink? I would venture to guess that if a liberal group had gathered and sang a Bob Dylan song, you guys would be all over it.

    • 45caliber

      If you don’t like the song and don’t want to listen, you have the right to ignore those who do. Not try to stop them.

    • Cameron

      Karolyn, (where the Hell do people get off w/weird spellings), you ask what’s the big deal & what if hippies sang a Bob Dylan song? First of all, I’m as patriotic as anybody else, & I loved the folk/protest songs, but these kids sang the NATIONAL ANTHEM, a PATRIOTIC, AMERICAN song. If you want to sing “Kumbaya” or “Where Have All the Flowers Gone”, go ahead, but NOT AT A NATIONAL MONUMENT! Stick some flowers in your hair, drop a windowpane, & go to ‘Frisco where you’ll be appreciated.

    • Jeep

      What part of the article did you miss? The part where the kids were singing, or the part where a park official said no singing of the national anthem? The point is not the “outburst” of patiotism, but the thuggish approach of a park official to shut it down. It is indicative of a culture of “anti-Americanism”. You may not agree, but that is the take most of us have here.

      • Karolyn

        The guy is only an employee.

        • 45caliber

          You are right. And that means he was obeying orders from his employer – the Federal Government. Which makes his act even worse, doesn’t it?

          • Jeep

            .45 (love that handle btw) I guess “officials” are not “employees” which would make them, what? Unemployed? I don’t know…it’s all so confusing. “I work for the park service, but I’m not an official…just an employee…I don’t make policy, I just follow it…”

            Wait a minute! Didn’t Hitler’s guys claim, “But, I was just following orders”?

        • Jeep

          Karolyn, you are a wolf pretending to be a sheep. I do not pay much attention to what you have to say. Now go collect your check from the DNC and have a nice day.

  • Anita Stephens

    Our young people did a wonderful job on our National Anthem. I don’t understand why that would be a problem, actually President Lincoln would be proud of them. Who made a law that we can’t sing the National Anthem anywhere we want in the USA?

  • Ray

    A great opportunity was lost. What should have happened: Seven days a week, ten times a day, fifty or more people show up at the Lincoln Memorial and sing the National Anthem. It would have been something that the entire nation (and certainly the media) could not ignore.

  • james

    Really, if all the laws in the USA were followed, Obama would have all ready been dragged out of the oval office and tried for treason.
    Which would not be a bad thing.
    If all the laws that have been passed, yet never repealed were enforced, there would be three citizens walking around or riding in a wheel chair.
    One group of laws, oaths etc. spring to mind, something about protecting our borders, which not one single president has done since Ike who saw mexicans as an exportable produce and did so.
    Now we have a bunch of lily livered one tone used car salesment in charge and who are such idiots they passed a 2700 page act, they were to lazy and stupid to read.
    If it cannot be backed up by the constitution, it deserves to be repealed and its supporters tried for treason.

  • Bdeholl

    Now THAT was beautiful – God bless those kids, they’ve got a lot more going for them than the current crop of clowns in DC.

  • Rev. Jack M Beck

    As a retired Senior High School teacher, I am so proud of these young people who exhibited their patriotism. It is an encouragement to see many young people still care for this Country. I taught American Government and Economics and encouraged that spirit to my students over the years that they exhibited that day. Such is still the hope for a future America.

    • 45caliber

      As a retired teacher, you will appreciate this.

      They are trying to remove all studies on the Constition and people’s rights from any school study now. To a certain extent they have done so. When I was in school we had a course called “Civics”. It went into great depth how our government was organized and run since it was created. We spent weeks just on the Consitution. Now it is part of American History – and they cover it, if at all, in one brief lesson. Even then, most of the study is on the later amendments. Few teachers even mention the Bill of Rights.

      Sad, isn’t it?

      • JC

        Pathetic.
        And it’s why we adults / parents can not afford to miss an opportunity to educate young people and point out the evil that our government has become.

  • jim

    You ‘ain’t seen nothing yet” from the Real Americans, against ole barry the socialist muslim kenyan and his lib dem Anti American cronies!!! We, Real Americans need to Recall and Impeach Now!!!

  • eddie47d

    I’m sure all these kids are pretty good Americans and God Bless them. Since Conservative groups always say they know the laws and right and wrong I would bet 10 to 1 that this group knew the rules of public gatherings and especially their leader. They could have been just tourists checking out the sights but they choose to demonstrate their singing talents. In that case they would have needed a permit just like everyone else. Now if you believe all persons should be able to sing or demonstrate without a permit then maybe I would agree with you. The National Park Service can not be selective on any given day without prior approval for anyone. That makes it fair for all. (If one group does it then all will want the same favor at anytime)Would you allow the New Black Panthers(all 10 members) to break out in song on the Lincoln Memorial? That would give you a whole weeks worth of controversy on this site. This is not about good messages or bad messages for whoevers gathers here but about policy. I also bet if These Young Americans for Freedom did apply for a permit before their trip I would think it would have been granted. I’m not sure if the Communist Party would be given a permit or If the neo-Nazi’s broke out and sang Horst Wessels “die fahne hoch”. That would be dispicable yet okay under your “free for all” rules.

    • American Citizen

      Since when is singing the National Anthem in front of one of our national memorials a “demonstration.” They were showing the love they have for this country and its freedoms. To sing a German song by neo-nazis would show disrespect for this country and amount almost to treason. There’s a vast difference. You are comparing apples and oranges.

      • 45caliber

        He and others like him always compare apples and oranges. It’s the only way they can get any comparison at all. I agree with you.

      • eddie47d

        If you go to a National campground you almost always have to get a permit. If you don’t all the spaces (campsites) will be taken. The National Park Service isn’t being mean or un-American. These young Americans could have gotten the required permit and sang to their hearts content. No one was arrested,only told to move along. Freedom doesn’t mean you can go against the law. If you look at the video most of the Kids were already assembled and singing so it looks more like a set up instead of spontaneity. It’s a moving video but if they were allowed then many other groups would want the same right.

        • 45caliber

          Again, there is a big difference between getting a camping permit so you use limited camping space and singing a song on the steps of a monument. Apples and oranges.

        • dan az

          Fanst eddie
          Since when dose free speech need a permit?I’ll do and say what ever I want thats my right!

    • Cameron

      When will you people quit trying to cloud the issue? These kids sang a PATRIOTIC, AMERICAN song, not a hippie, protest, Nazi Germany, or Communist song, at an American, National monument. What’s wrong with that? NOTHING! If anybody else wants to sing anything else, let them apply for a permit. They’ll probably have it hand-delivered by the world’s most powerful Muslim.

      • eddie47d

        Very odd logic. You can do something because you like it but someone else either can’t or has to get special permission. Sorry Cameron but your one of the reasons we have to have so many laws to sort out what’s right or wrong. Even over our National Anthem.

        • dan az

          Slow eddie
          your an idiot!

  • 45caliber

    This is an e-mail going around now. And it is too true!

    The Fundamental Transformation of America

    When Obama wrote a book and said he was mentored as a youth by Frank, (Frank Marshall Davis) an avowed Communist, people said it didn’t matter.

    When it was discovered that his grandparents, were strong socialists who sent Obama’s mother to a socialist school where she was introduced to Frank Marshall Davis. He was later introduced to young Barrack Hussein Obama People said it didn’t matter.

    When people found out that Barrack Hussein Obama was enrolled as a Muslim child in school and his father and stepfather were both Muslims, people said it didn’t matter.

    When he wrote in another book he authored “I will stand with them
    (Muslims) should the political winds shift in an ugly direction” people said it didn’t matter.

    When he admittedly, in his book, said he chose Marxist friends and professors in college– people said it didn’t matter.

    When he traveled to Pakistan , after college on an unknown national passport, people said it didn’t matter.

    When he sought the endorsement of the Marxist Party in 1996 as he ran for the Illinois Senate, people said it didn’t matter.

    When he sat in a Chicago Church for twenty years and listened to a preacher spew hatred for America and preach black liberation theology, people said it didn’t matter.

    When an independent Washington organization, that tracks Senate voting records, gave him the distinctive title as the “most liberal senator,” people said it didn’t matter.

    When the Palestinians in Gaza set up a fund raising telethon to raise money for his election campaign, people said it didn’t matter.

    When his voting record supported gun control, people said it didn’t matter.

    When he refused to disclose who donated money to his election campaign, as other candidates had done, people said it didn’t matter.

    When he received endorsements from people like Louis Farrakhan and Mummar Kadaffi and Hugo Chavez, people said it didn’t matter.

    When it was pointed out that he was a total newcomer and had absolutely no experience at anything except community organizing, people said it didn’t matter.

    When he chose friends and acquaintances such as Bill Ayers and Bernadine Dohrn who were revolutionary radicals, people said it didn’t matter.

    When his voting record in the Illinois senate and in the U.S. Senate came into question, people said it didn’t matter.

    When he refused to wear a flag, lapel pin, and did so only after a public outcry, people said it didn’t matter.

    When people started treating him as a Messiah and children in schools were taught to sing his praises, people said it didn’t matter.

    When he stood with his hands over his groin area for the playing of the National Anthem and Pledge of Allegiance, people said it didn’t matter.

    When he surrounded himself in the White house with advisors who were pro-gun control, pro- abortion, pro-homosexual marriage and wanting to curtail freedom of speech to silence the opposition people said it didn’t matter..

    When he aired his views on abortion, homosexuality and a host of other issues, people said it didn’t matter.

    When he said he favors sex education in Kindergarten, including homosexual indoctrination, people said it didn’t matter.

    When his personal background was either scrubbed or hidden and nothing could be found about him, people said it didn’t matter.

    When the place of his birth was called into question, and he refused to produce a birth certificate, people said it didn’t matter.

    When he had an association in Chicago with Tony Rezco–a man of questionable character and who is now in prison and had helped Obama to a sweet deal on the purchase of his home– people said it didn’t matter.

    When it became known that George Soros, a multi-billionaire Marxist, spent a ton of money to get him elected, people said it didn’t matter.

    When he started appointing White House Czars that were radicals, revolutionaries, and even avowed Marxist/Communist, people said it didn’t matter.

    When he stood before the Nation and told us that his intentions were to “fundamentally transform this Nation” into something else, people said it didn’t matter.

    When it became known that he had trained ACORN workers in Chicago and served as an attorney for ACORN, people said it didn’t matter.

    When he appointed cabinet members and several advisors who were tax cheats and socialists, people said it didn’t matter.

    When he appointed a Science Czar, John Holdren, who believes in forced abortions, mass sterilizations and seizing babies from teen mothers, people said it didn’t matter.

    When he appointed Cass Sunstein as Regulatory Czar who believes in “Explicit Consent,” harvesting human organs without family consent, and allowing animals to be represented in court, while banning all hunting, people said it didn’t matter.

    When he appointed Kevin Jennings, a homosexual, and organizer of a group called gay, lesbian, straight, education network as Safe School Czar and it became known that he had a history of bad advice to teenagers, people said it didn’t matter.

    When he appointed Mark Lloyd, as Diversity Czar, who believes in curtailing free speech; taking from one and giving to another to spread the wealth; who supports Hugo Chavez, people said it didn’t matter.

    When Valerie Jarrett was selected as Obama’s Senior White House Advisor and she is an avowed Socialist, people said it didn’t matter.

    When Anita Dunn, White House Communications Director said Mao Tse Tung was her favorite philosopher– and the person she turned to most for inspiration, people said it didn’t matter.

    When he appointed Carol Browner as Global Warming Czar, and her being a well known socialist working on Cap and trade as the nations largest tax, people said it didn’t matter.

    When he appointed Van Jones, an ex-con and avowed Communist as Green Energy Czar, who since had to resign when this was made known, people said it didn’t matter.

    When Tom Daschle, Obama’s pick for health and human services secretary could not be confirmed, because he was a tax cheat, people said it didn’t matter..

    When as President of the United States , he bowed to the King of Saudi Arabia , people said it didn’t matter.

    When he traveled around the world criticizing America and never once talking of her greatness, people said it didn’t matter.

    When his actions concerning the Middle-East seemed to support the Palestinians over Israel , our long time ally, people said it didn’t matter.

    When he took American tax dollars to resettle thousands of Palestinians from Gaza to the United States , people said it didn’t matter.

    When he upset the Europeans by removing plans for a missile defense system against the Russians, people said it didn’t matter.

    When he played politics in Afghanistan by not sending troops early-on when the Field Commanders said they were necessary to win, people said it didn’t matter.

    When he started spending us into a debt that was so big we could not pay it off, people said it didn’t matter.

    When he took a huge spending bill under the guise of stimulus and used it to pay off organizations, unions, and individuals that got him elected, people said it didn’t matter.

    When he took over insurance companies, car companies, banks, etc., people said it didn’t matter.

    When he took away student loans from the banks and put it through the government, people said it didn’t matter.

    When he designed plans to take over the health care system and put it under government control, people said it didn’t matter.

    When he claimed he was a Christian during the election and tapes were later made public that showed Obama speaking to a Muslim group and ‘stating’ that he was raised a Muslim; was educated as a Muslim; and that he is still a Muslim– people said it didn’t matter.

    When he set into motion a plan to take over the control of all energy in the United States through Cap and Trade, people said it didn’t matter.

    When he finally completes his transformation of America into a Socialist State , people may wake up— but it will be too late. Add these up one by one and you get a phenomenal score that points to the fact that Barrack Hussein Obama is determined to turn America into a Marxist-Socialist society.

    • Karolyn

      I have no time to look up all these allegations, but I would imagine a great deal of them are false or misconstrued or downright lies. As far as that tape of him admitting to being a Muslim, it is obviously cut and edited. Anyone can see that. If somebody can do that to help besmirch the President, they can do anything. He’s only one man. Why wouldn’t he bow to the Kind of Saudi Arabia? That’s called Protocol in case you didn’t know. I’m sure all this information came from an impartial person – NOT! All your info came from a biased Conservative with an ax to grind.

      • Cameron

        Can’t stand the truth, can you?

        • Karolyn

          Cameron, that’s a really dumb thing to say. I know what truth is; and if allegations cannot be proven by fact, I hold judgment.

          • JC

            Not good enough Komrade Karolyn. Look them up or shut it up.

          • eddie47d

            JC When are you going to learn that these tapes(videos) are edited. Fair,honest? Not in your life.

          • JC

            eddie as the dirty little secrets of your deity’s existence come to light (admittedly some true some not) I despise him more deeply with every passing day. If he is on TV I turn it off, if he is in the newspaper I turn the page. When someone does a tally of him and posts it…I don’t even bother to question it anymore. My offense to the man is complete and solid. And it so by his own deeds…not by rumors.

          • Da Norseman

            Karolyn, it depends on how you define what is the truth: is it the “truth” promoted by the liberal media through censorship, or is it what you call “lies”, which we know is the actual truth that the left have censored out?

          • Karolyn

            JC – He’s just a man!! And I believe he’s a man that is for change. The trouble with this country is nobody wants change, just like here in SC. I just saw on TV where China has overtaken Japan for 2nd place in World economies. They should overtake the US in 20 years maybe less. We need change, and it certainly is hard for one person to do it against all odds. You might object to some of his decisions but have you listened to any rational viewpoints on those decisions, or hve you just listened to your fellows and the conservative media?

          • http://naver samurai

            How is that Karolyn? He said so on national TV and was heard by millions of people.

          • JC

            Karolyn says:
            August 16, 2010 at 7:57 pm
            JC – He’s just a man!! And I believe he’s a man that is for change. The trouble with this country is nobody wants change,

            Unfortunately Castro and Stalin had the same kind of change in mind.

          • kate8

            Karolyn, Why would anyone be for change just for change’s sake? Change can be for the better, or things can become much worse.

            Use your head, girl. Change from freedom to socialism, Marxism, communism, fascism or most any ism is NOT GOOD.

            You say we don’t want change? You are correct, if you are talking about the “fundamental change” Odumbo is pushing (as fast as he can).

      • Scott

        Isn’t Obama the only U.S. president to ever bow to the Saudi King? That can’t be protocol.

        • 45caliber

          The President is considered the equal of ALL world leaders regardless of their titles. Therefore by protocol he is to bow to no one as that is a mark of subservience. He didn’t bow to the Queen of England but did to the Saudi king so he BROKE protocol.

      • kate8

        Karolyn, you are a dyed-in-the-wool liberal. No amount of proof would convince you of misconduct on the part of one of your gods.

        Good grief, everything on that list is a matter of public record, and much of it is self-admitted by Osurper himself. All it would take is a little research on your part and you’d pull up enough proof for anyone.

        The trouble with your ilk is that you hold your ears and go “la la la”. Your minds are as locked and set as any dogmatic fanatic. It’s useless to even bother with evidence.

        • hattles

          …another good voice of reason.

      • Da Norseman

        Karolyn says, “We need change, and it certainly is hard for one person to do it against all odds.”

        Who’s “we”?!?!?!?! You don’t speak for me. You speak for yourself so don’t include me.

    • Robert Smith

      From 45 caliber: >>>When his voting record supported gun control, people said it didn’t matter. <<<

      Actually Obama has done only ONE thing with gun control since he took office. He SUPPORTED the Bush doctrine that pistols could be in National parks as long as state laws are obeyed.

      That's both support for gun owners and respect for states' rights.

      The rest of your screed is equally full of holes that I could easily point out but by sheer volume I just don't have the time.

      Please accept this excellent example of what Obama has actually DONE rather than the wild and usually false claims put forward.

      Rob

      • 45caliber

        Rob:
        If you bother to look he has done far more AGAINST guns than for them. You are saying he is for guns based on one incident. The statement is saying he is against guns based on MANY incidents.

        • Robert Smith

          From 45caliber: >>> you bother to look he has done far more AGAINST guns than for them. <<<

          Actually not so. It's simple enough to prove your statement false. Please cite some examples.

          Opps, you don't have any! If you look at the legislation involving gun control that he voted on there were compelling violations of personal freedoms in them that were of more concern.

          Rob

    • Barbara Miller-Stacey

      Civil disobedience. What happened to “the people’s right to assemble”. And what harm, if any, or who was injured did occur. NONE! Good for these young people. After all…..it was our National Anthem! Next stop…..the White House!!!

  • dennis W

    HEY JRC,

    THANKS FOR MAKING YOUR AQUAINTANCE…..I SEE YOU EVERY DAY WHEN I TAKE MY DOG TO THE DOG PARK……..YOU SURE DO GET AROUND…..I THOUGHT THESE PILES WERE DOG FECES, BUT LO AND BEHOLD…..THEY WERE YOU ALL THIS TIME…YOU REALLY SHOULD DO SOMETHING ABOUT YOUR SMELL THOUGH….’B.O.’ IS NOT VEERY BECOMMING…………..

    • Scott

      Dude, watch your temper! You’re sounding like a progressive: all emotion and no reason.

  • http://aol Roseann

    JRC-
    If your NOT HAPPY being an American and living in the GREAT USA I suggest you go back to where you and your ancetors came from.

  • Earl, QUEENS, NY

    The best word I read here was “outnumbered”. YES!! It’s good to know that these politically correct leftwing malcontents/politicians are outnumbered by a majority of the American people. It is my sincere hope that we can take back our country in the 2010 and 2012 (and beyond) elections. If we can’t vote out this leftwing Democrap party regime in the next few election cycles, my fear is that we may need another late 18th century type revolution – which of course should only be a last resort.

  • Scott

    I agree with Marting Luther King Jr on this issue. It is our civil responsibility to obey a just law. Likewise it is our civil responsibility to disobey an unjust law. What is the difference? A just law agrees with the Law of Nature, and of Nature’s God. An unjust law clashes with the Higher Law.

    This puts the responsibility on the citizen, not the judicial elite or legislative elite.

  • ONTIME

    Most refreshing, very well done and exciting to see so many young people inspire those around them…The Tea party is just a beginning to what is going to become a return to Constitutional government and the enforcement of civil law….My best to Ya’ll

  • EddieW

    WOW!!! Thos kids did us all proud!!! Isn’t it great to see someone standing up for what is right? we see many standing for things that are wrong!! KUDU’S to those kids!!!!

  • VELMA NUGENT

    I CAN’T BELIEVE I HAVE SET FOR OVER AN HOUR TO READ ALL OF THESE REPLYS,BUT AFTER ALL THIS I DON’T REMEMBER WHAT I’M SUPOSE TO COMMENT ON.HERE GOES.MAY GOD BLESS THOSE YOUNG PEOPLE,AND HE KNOWS EVERYONE OF THEM.WAY BEFORE OBAMA GOT INTO OFFICE I SAID HE WAS AN MUSLIM AND NOT THE RIGHT KIND OF PERSON TO BE IN THE WHITE HOUSE.PEOPLE SAID IT DIDN’T MATTER,I JUST FINISHED READING.PEOPLE PLEASE READ 2CHRONICLES 7:14 “IF MY PEOPLE,WHICH ARE CALLED BY MY NAME,SHALL HUMBLE THEMSELVES,AND PRAY,AND SEEK MY FACE,AND TURN FROM THEIR WICKED WAYS; THEN WILL I HEAR FROM HEAVEN,AND WILL FORGIVE THEIR SIN,AND WILL HEALTHEIR LAND”SO AMERICANS LETS DO THAT.GOD BLESS AMERICA

    • 45caliber

      But God didn’t change things the moment He got a prayer. He waited until most of the people were praying for relief before He gave it. Don’t expect sudden miracles because you said a thirty second prayer one time.

      Everyone needs to be praying for this!

  • MRAMERICA

    “That this nation, under God, shall have a new birth of freedom; and that government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the earth”. [Abraham Lincoln- Speech at Gettysburg] We should all applaud this group of young people for their patriotism and defiance in the face of ignorance and political correctness. Perhaps, all is not lost, there’s still hope.

  • FreedomFighter

    bravo

    Laus Deo

  • Lewis Munn

    I have rad through this, and many other comments.

    First you cannot impeach Obama. He has too many bought and paid-for people in Congress.

    Secondly, kudos to the singers. Excellent job. Too bad some group does not go there and sing “Battle Hymn of the Republic”. I do think it is a shame that Patriotic songs cannot be sung in patriotic places any more.

    Thirdly, it is unfortunate that there is not more discussion of some of the laws that were forced through Chicago-Gangster style. Such as I finally got my full SS, and now 17% of what I got is by Presidential Pressure stripped from me by the government to pay for the poor, mostly illegals. Leaving me poor again, but NOT getting what was contracted for before Obama and Congress changed the laws. I do not think I am the only one who will have to decide between food, heat, or medicine, …or death…, in the fall!!

    Now I no longer have enough to live on decently left. I paid according to the law, under duress, for all my working life, and now Obama is taking it away to give it to.. Illegals, mostly, it appears.

    I suspect I am not the only one in this situation. Wonder how many people care about the Government breaking faith with us and leaving us without enough to live on from what was taken from us by law, force, and a contractual promise, now abrogated, through the years.

    Would you folks out there really intend to treat your old parents so shabbily? I wonder. Obama and many Congresspeople apparently do!

    • 45caliber

      What is sad to me is that we were assured that we were saving for our retirement by paying into this. Now it is an entitlement that Congress can cut off at a whim! But I’ll bet that the tax itself will not go away!

      The main reason (I think) that they are complaining about it being broke is not that there isn’t enough money coming in for the retired people. It is because there isn’t enough money coming in for all their give-away programs and they think they should reduce the retirement benefits to pay for the rest they want.

      • Claire

        45caliber–the reason there isn’t enough money is because all administrations took from it–or should I say “stole?” And they never paid it back. The program was working fine but no they couldn’t leave it alone. All administrations stole from this program for years for their so-called agendas. Now they want to privatize it. All I can say is don’t count on any money left in a few years.

        • 45caliber

          You are quite correct. The politicians kept seeing that money pile up since more were paying in than taking out and they just couldn’t see it sitting there without wanting to use it to buy more votes.

          • Claire

            45caliber–You know what I think? I think we should file a lawsuit against all of the administrations that stole this money. Perhaps childish thinking, but it sure sounds good.

          • vicki

            Unfortunately though we like to think otherwise there is only ONE administration. Currently Obama is in charge of it. So there is only one available to sue.

  • Pauli

    Yuri Besmenov on Youtube describes the methods used by the Soviets to destroy our system of government over generations.

  • ken

    This is wonderful to see. I have been saying all along that America is waking up and taking it’s power and country back. I say defy these brown shirt, jack boot, mindless tyrants at every turn. This is our country. It belongs to us the people and not the fools in office or uniform. Stand up America and be the brave nobel people in the image of those that gave this great nation to us.

    Never back down. Never submitt!

  • Da Norseman

    These students sang their hearts out for this great nation, and for those who have forgotten…THIS IS AMERICA!!! The Land of the Free and the Home of the Brave!

    These young people ought to be commended – not reprimanded – for reminding everyone that we are not a nation of tyranny, not a nation of fascism, not a nation of socialism or communism, not a nation of Islam, not a nation of anarchy, not a nation of atheism, and certainly not a nation overrun by a bunch of rogue idiots trying to do away with our freedom and liberty. We the People have spoken!!!

    More and more of our young students are seeing the light and understand that they have been lied to by corrupt teachers in our public schools throughout this land all along who have taught them to hate freedom and embrace any one of these doctrines above in the name of political correctness.

    The U.S. Park Police had no right whatsoever in an attempt to silence them for singing our national anthem, which is a violation of free speech protected under the First Amendment of the U.S. Constitution. I think it’s great that a lot of people decided to stand up for these students by joining them. It is the kind of “civil disobedience” this country needs!!!

    • JC

      It begs the question:
      If a school choir sings our national anthem in the middle of a Federal Park forest and there is no one there to hear it…are they still breaking the law?

      How completely absurd.

      • Da Norseman

        That is a very good question.

      • Robert Smith

        The real question is: If Hellen Keller fell over in the woods would a tree hear her?

        There is an answer.

        NO, but the corn would because it has ears.

        Rob

  • John

    Watch on youtube: “Obama deception” HQ full lenght version and “Obama doesnt want you to know this” The truth will set you free. Presiedent is not a American…. But a full blooded Kenyan . Born on african kenyan soil.

    • Da Norseman

      Even his own wife openly admitted that his homeland is Kenya during a press conference.

      • http://msn.com Dottyj0

        SHE SURE DID. I SAW IT TOO! THE PROBLEM WITH THE TRUTH IS THAT IT HAS A WAY OF POPPING UP, WHEN YOU LEAST EXPECT IT. THE VIDEO OF HIS GRANDMOTHER HAS BEEN DESTROYED. AT THE BEGINNING OF HIS CAMPAIGN IT WAS ON THE NEWS DAY AND NIGHT. THOSE FAMOUS WORDS STILL LIVE WITH THOSE OF US WHO RECEIVE THE TRUTH. ” I WAS RIGHT THERE WHEN HE WAS BORN”, SHE SAID. GRANDMA DIED AND SO DID THE VIDEO. WHY IS HE HIDING? WHY DO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE ALLOW THEMSELVES TO BE DECEIVED? FAIRY TALE SEEKERS. HEAD WILL BE CHOPPED OFF, UNLESS WE STOP THESE LOONS!
        BY THE WAY, I STILL HAVE THE CLIP FROM YOUTUBE, WHERE MICHELLE MADE THAT STATEMENT. E-MAIL ME, I WILL SEND IT TO YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!

        • vicki

          Isn’t that the grandma he went to visit during his campaign cause she was very ill? And when did she die in relation to the timing of his “visit”

  • James Barnes

    I have not read all the responses, and perhaps Im just repeating something. Im a Canadian, and so I have a very objective viewpoint of American politics. Basically I like the US and am pro-American. I basically agree with Bob, but he is on the verge of violating the requirements put on the responders, by calling the security officer a facist and a thug. A likely guess is that Bob was very angry when he wrote that. My experience is that when a person is angry at someone, his concept of that person and the situation will be distorted, and his reasoning will be off. Also he will way way overrate the situations importance. I knew a guy that had an anger problem. One time someone scratched a key along two doors of his nice car. He got raving mad. Flipped out. Note the ratio between severity of problem and amount of anger. Then a couple of years later he got in a dispute over a woman and killed the guy. Same ratio.

  • http://gmail i41

    Since the government own 1 in every 3 acres of land iin the United States, last week a Congess person uncovered a memo being passed around in the Interior Department that the DOJ lawyers are trying to figuring out away, to seize private property, without having to require a vote by the House and Senate. There is ranch and farm land surrounded by federal land all over in the west., Be it controlled by BLM, Forrest Service, or a created wilderness area under Interiors controll in the last few years. Utah has 3 acres of federal owned land to the 1 private owned. When asked by the Congess person what the heck this was, response, it was just an idea. For you marxist muslim moron lovers and hard core communist democrats, everyone who is a independant private landowner will just have to take a hard line and kick some ass and skulls loose, when private ownership is stopped or is taken away by a agency idoit. If the citizens don’t wake up and see what this marxist muslim moron and his radical socialist thugs are working at for total government ownership, and Omoron is trying to become a dictator. Talking and patty cakes playing don’t make communists stop their creeping crud. I know eliteitist,dumb overeducated, artsy fartsy east and west coast socialist muslim pervs, and liberal faggot huggers have been following the Alinsky master plan. All of them just hate the phrase, of a blue collar red neck. Well I don’t see any pussifies whimppy girly boys who have enough guts to fight the government and the marxist plans. This will be more fun than in the late 60′s and early 7-’s, when the communial indians and hippies thought they could just squat anywhere and trash the private property, that they didn’t own or have a claim. I guess these radical smucks are still trying, To change everyone to live off of everyone else and you don’t have to work. If the government thinks they can ride rough shod over people, who don’t like the government control crap, well it will be a barbershop sessions with free trimmings. History repeats itself!

    • http://msn.com Dottyj0

      BROTHER, WE CAN BLOG TILL OUR FINGERS FALL OFF, THE BOTTOM LINE IS, THEY HAVE ALL GOT TO GO, BY ANY MEANS NECESSARY. THEY WILL NEVER LEAVE QUIETLY, BECAUSE THEY ARE GREEDY BATARDS AND THEY DO NOT CARE ABOUT AMERICA. THERE ARE A FEW GOOD ONES, BUT THEY NEED TO MOVE ON TOO. WE NEED TO TAKE OUR COUNTRY BACK AND LET THEM KNOW, THAT IT BELONGS TO THE PEOPLE. THE FIGHT MUST SURELY COME, AND LIKE PATRICK HENRY, I SAY, “GIVE ME LIBERTY, OR GIVE ME DEATH”. BECAUSE THE QUALITY OF LIFE WE HAVE EXIST NO WHERE ELSE ON THIS PLANET. SO WHY LIVE, IF WE CAN’T LIVE WHERE FREEDOM AND DECENCY RESIDES. HELL NO, THEY GOT TO GO!!!!! I WILL DIE FOR THIS COUNTRY AND I AM BLACK.

      THE MILLION DOLLAR PENSIONS HAVE TO BE SHUT THE HELL OFF, IMMEDIATELY. THEY CAN CARRY THE RAGGEDY BEHINDS TO WORK LIKE THE REST OF US, OR SELL HOT DOGS!!!I REALLY DON’T CARE. I SAY, “OFF WITH THEIR FREAKEN HEADS”!!!! HA, HA, HA, SERIOUSLY!!!!!

      • hundabuxt

        Baby girl you are a breath of fresh air! One of the three best friends I have who I’d take a bullet for is black and has your set of values. He’s a veteran and a patriot and works hard for a living.

    • 45caliber

      The government spends enough money buying land to almost balance the budget (prior to Oblama of course). And for some of the silliest reasons!

      But the one that really annoys me is a land grab around Austin, TX, that came into affect during Clinton’s time to “buy” green votes.

      The Dept. of Interior stated that they were going to “buy” land near Austin to be used as a bird sactuary for a bird that “might become endangers if its habitat used in migration was changed”. They gave themselves 30 years to “buy” the land IF they had the money at the time and IF they felt like it. The land was valued at over $10,000 an acre. It promptly dropped in value to $1000 an acre, less than most people there had paid for it.

      But the real problem came up later. A farmer died and left his farm to his heirs. The IRS showed up. They were accessing the inheritance tax based on a value of $13,000 an acre – but the heirs could only sell the land for $1000 an acre to the government – who wasn’t in the market right then. So to keep the land the heirs would have to pay about $6000 MORE per acre than they could get for it later. And there were several hundred acres of it. The IRS agreed to take the land in leu of the tax. That basically means they didn’t buy any of it – they simply seized it in its entirety as soon as the present owner died, leaving nothing to the heirs. Bush put a stop to the inheritance tax but it kicks back in at the end of this year. So many more familes are going to see their property taken for NO COMPENSATION AT ALL!

  • Joe in JT

    Didn’t you hear? You can’t demonstrate in the United States unless you’re an illegal alien from Mexico. You can also march on the capitol if you belong to a hate group like La-Race (the race). White people, like these all A students from a respected High School, have to be taught early, no speaking out, don’t make waves. Just go on to college, get a good yob, and let government steal half your wages in taxes. Now be a good white cracker and go to your room.

    • Jeep

      Race baiting is a left wing tactic. Let’s leave that to them. People of ALL races are waking up and seeing those tactics for what they are. We should not take a step backward by employing the race card. Conservative and Libertarian ideals are for ALL American’s, regardless of race. However, we cannot be inclusive of our fellow American’s if we employ these tactics. However, do not be shy about pointing it out when the left employs Alinsky style race baiting.

  • tnmccoy

    U.S. Park Police spokesman Sgt. David Schlosser told NBC. “The United States Park Police is absolutely content-neutral when it comes to any sort of demonstrations in these areas.” — Since when does singing the National Anthem come under a ‘content neutral’ rule? Patriotism is rare indeed these days, and singing the Anthem at the Lincoln Memorial is a necessary reminder of who and what we are.

    • Jeep

      And, since when did singing the National Anthem become a “dmonstration” in that context. Maybe a “demonstration” of patriotism, so is that to be “unfavored” too? Are we not allowed to bring an American flag, or wear red, white and blue?

  • http://www.personalliberty.com/conservative-politics/liberty/the-return-of-civil-disobedience/ DT61

    Personally – it gives me hope that there is still an opportunity to freedom to ring LOUDLY.

  • vicki

    Reading higher I realize that Clare was talking about Congress not the Administration. Still only one. Still only the current one could be sued and I bet there is a law somewhere protecting them from lawsuits.

    We can however vote them out in Nov.

  • http://personalliberity james

    next you will be thrown in jail for saying the pledge of allegence to the flag of the united states of america one nation under god. ( we have to get rid of these nazi B s t d.s) in the whitehouse who are the NWO. watch the banks corrupt the november 2nd elections again.!!!! its time for war at home people.

  • Wayne

    Many Americans are friends and “family” of mine. I am sad for them and for the world. Why do conspiracy theories keep popping up? Well why do economic theories keep popping up? Because many times there is truth to the theory – we’ve heard of the theory of Gravity? Well it certainly exists, no one can explain about how it all works with everything else – no one. But we don’t go flying off (not everyone) the planet because we don’t understand gravity. The truth really seems to be that the prison has already been built to contain the entire population. You are being told what to think, what to do, who to pay, where and when you can do things. Our children and theirs will have no freedom to think and do for themselves, all will be regulated and controlled – no independent thought. Slaves. Anyone can now be instantly criminalized by the system. All communications are monitored to the greatest extent possible (see blackberry). Yes folks, 1984 has long come and gone, we are now beginning the nightmare. It is probably too late to stop it.

  • Da Norseman

    And in the end as Wayne quoted that 1984 has come and gone, which means Big Brother will be watching over each and every one of us. James quoting that it will be illegal to recite the “Pledge of Allegiance” when these fools in DC will do away with the “Star-Spangled Banner” and the “Pledge of Allegiance” by replacing them with “I Pledge Mutiny to Freedom” and “America Has Fallen! We Surrender” respectively. We would end up seeing a United Nations flag replacing “Old Glory”. It would be illegal to hoist and fly “Old Glory” and to burn and desecrate the Mexican flag. America would end up like a prison and the American Dream would be dead and forgotten, all because of DC’s powerful grasp with the help of a global conspiracy to bring this once great nation down to hell.

  • TRUE PATRIOT

    I can’t wait until our self-appointed powers that be utter Yamamoto’s famous words: “I’M AFRAID WE’VE ONLY AWAKENED A SLEEPING GIANT”! Let’s all wake up and show them we are no longer asleep! Remeber, one percent of the population will never control ninety nine percent!

  • http://PersonalLibertyDigest G Man

    JRC, I understand that libs, (progressives, ecoterrorists, etc.) don’t really care for humankind in general. I’ll send you a new rope if you would like to start culling the herd.

  • http://comcast.net fed up!

    For the first time in history, a civilized nation has complete gun registration, our streets will be safer , our police will be more efficient , and the world will follow our lead into the future . ADOLF HITLER 1935

    Do you all want this from the Chicago Gangster? Because that is exactly what Obama and Hillary are working on. Use force or get used to being forced!!

  • http://n/a chrisf

    obama,radical islam{including mosque in ground zero supporters} illegal aliens {and their supporters}get a rope and to hell with due process!
    why should anyone sit idly by without taking action? how the hell is a kenyan born muslim in power and nobodies taking DIRECT action?
    there are alot of rumours going around about obama,but regardless of them its been proven he shouldnt be eligible for presidency here being a kenyan! its treason either way!

  • http://n/a chrisf

    i dont buy that crap about obaomber being a muslim and a christian,any1 who thinks these religons are compatable is insane.
    koran-if you encounter a christian kill or convert him.
    string up the traitor and all his supporters as the tyrants they are!

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