The Only Way To Protect Your 2nd Amendment Rights: Nullification

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I know we’re all very upset about what’s happening in Washington. For many people, last week’s Senate vote was extremely upsetting. Sadly, though, we need to accept facts. The Federal government is filled with sociopathic criminals.

But we can beat them. And we will.

Here at the Tenth Amendment Center, we’re in the process of putting together a long-range strategy that helps people understand what needs to be done to advance liberty and the Constitution. So, as many of our nullification bills are moving forward, we’re becoming quite good at getting things done. Stay tuned for that.

In the meantime, here are some things that you can do today for liberty.

First, start here.

The only way you’ll ever protect your right to keep and bear arms is by nullification on a State and/or local level. No matter how awful your State is, you have multiple times greater chance of getting something accomplished closer to home on a State level — or even city council level — than you’ll ever have calling the likes of Senators Harry Reid or Pat Toomey to do the right thing.

Nullify. Nullify. And nullify.

I include this very specific nullification legislation on the right to keep and bear arms because of what’s happening in Washington right now. But if a different issue is what’s important to you, the message is still the same.

Start here, and nullify.

Truths And Advice

You may not find hard truths easy to hear or read. But since I’m not trying to win elections or friends, I’m going to share some anyway. My only goal here is to advance the cause of liberty and the Constitution. This needs to be said.

Washington is a lost cause. If you’ve been spending your days calling politicians in Washington to support or oppose something, you’ve wasted your time. If you want to advance liberty, forget Washington. That is a pit of criminals; and you will never, ever accomplish your goals. Don’t call anyone there. Don’t send any letters to your Representatives or Senators. Don’t support their campaigns or donate your money. Forget that the 202 area code even exists.

Recognize that the s&!t has hit the fan. Things are bad, really bad. And they will likely keep getting worse. That will never stop until you follow point No. 1.

There’s no quick fix. Nothing, and I mean absolutely nothing, is going to turn this mess around in short order. Whether it’s guns, hemp, healthcare, farming, money and everything in between, the people in this country… well, we’ve all let it happen for far too long. We’ve cared about the drama of national elections or which political team was winning in Congress far more than we’ve cared about our liberty and the Constitution. So we’ve got a long haul back. But we have to start working on nullification, and nothing else, right now — not tomorrow, now.

Think nationally, nullify locally. Centralized power is the cause of our situation. Every time you spend an ounce of energy on their game, they gain more power. Again, this goes back to point No. 1. Stay away from Washington. Don’t call, don’t visit and don’t ever count on them to fix the problems they’ve created. A one-size-fits all solution — centralized — is the game of our enemies. We win from the ground up, not the top down.

Let Me Say This Clearly

In Kansas, a bill that would nullify a huge number of Federal gun control measures is sitting on Governor Sam Brownback’s desk with a veto-proof majority. In Missouri this week, the State House will be considering an even stronger version of that bill.

In Maine and Washington State, bills to nullify unConstitutional bans on industrial hemp are moving forward. And South Carolina’s nullify Obamacare bill just got voted out of committee and is going to the State House floor very soon.

Even in California, a State Assembly committee this week passed a bill to nullify National Defense Authorization Act indefinite detention — unanimously.

This is the foundation. It will grow, if you commit to it. The response on both the State and the local level will get stronger and stronger if you put your time, energy and financial resources behind it. If you forego the soap opera that is the sickos in Washington, all our nullification efforts will get stronger — and in greater numbers.

Joe Biden wants to scare us all, telling us that this is just the beginning on gun control.

Well, I’ve got a message too. Hey, Joe, let me say this as clearly as I can. This is just the beginning. Whatever you’ve got, we’re going to nullify it.

Peace,

–Michael Boldin

Personal Liberty

Michael Boldin

is the founder and executive director of the Tenth Amendment Center. Michael has a full schedule working as senior editor of the Center's website, writes a regular column, fields media interviews, and travels the country (when invited, of course) to speak to crowds about sticking to the Constitution — every issue, every time, no exceptions, no excuses.[send him email]

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  • http://cowboybyte.com/ Alondra

    People, please go to the link I provide and sign the Orly Taitz petition to Congress to investigate of the Criminal-in-chief’s use of forged IDs. 50,752 Americans already signed it. http://www.petition2congress.com/9026/start-immediate-investigation-barack-obamas-use-forged-ids-ct-ssn/?src=widget

    Lawyer Orly Taitz has a strong support from the High ranking U.S. Military Officers:

    1) On April 9 spoke with General Vallely. He received the evidence before Judge
    England and correspondence with the General Counsel representing Issa and
    Goodlatte. It is being forwarded to Admiral Lyons, General Boykin, 700 special
    ops officers and others

    2) 15 flag officers (Brigadier General and up) are currently reviewing the
    evidence before Judge England and actions of the Holder Department of Justice
    in seeking to dismiss the case on behalf of the U.S. Congress without knowledge
    and consent of the U.S. Congress (April 10)

    3) Major General Edward M. Browne agrees with Orly Taitz that Obama is usurping
    the US Presidency while using forged and stolen IDS and needs to be removed
    from office and prosecuted (Orly spoke with General on April 12)

    4) On April 15 Eight U.S. Army and Air Force generals (rank of Brigadier General, Major General) and 7 Colonels signed a letter to judge Morrison C. England urging him to hear the case Grinols et al v Electoral college et al brought by Attorney Orly Taitz on the merits in order to stop treason and usurpation of the U.S. illegal pResidency and usurpation of the position of the Commander-in-chief of the U.S. military

    5) 95 U.S. Congressmen revolt against the ruling criminal enterprise stooge John Boehner and demand select committee on Benghazi

    “Fiat justitia ruat caelum” – “Let justice be done though the heavens fall”

    P.S. Please pray for Justice and spread the word.

    • Bob666

      Yawn!!!!!

    • Steve E

      I signed it.

      • http://cowboybyte.com/ Alondra

        Thank you, Steve. God Bless you and yours and our America.
        P.S. Do not forget to PASS IT ON (the link for the Petition).

    • BrotherPatriot

      Signed it proudly and added the strongest piece of evidence to the message…that Obummer needs TWO citizen parents in order to be POTUS. The simple fact that he is where he is & STILL IS shows a Conspiracy of epic proportions going on that obviously involves the help of a high ranking network of co-conspirators within our government to put into place and implement.
      God Bless.

      • http://cowboybyte.com/ Alondra

        Thank you, Brother. God Bless you and yours and our America.
        I am glad 15 people approved Petition and the work Orly Taitz does.
        I hope at least half of them did sign Petition.
        P.S. Do not forget to PASS IT ON (the link for the Petition).

      • ChiefBoring

        I’m afraid y’all are wasting your time. No matter where Obama was born, his mother being a US citizen makes him a natural born US citizen. John McCain was born in Panama. He is a natural born US citizen as well. No one complained of his birth being outside the US.

        • BrotherPatriot

          It’s not a waste of time to bring justice to a criminal act…especially when it affects all the people of a country & the world at large…!!! Once again…TWO cititzen parents are required in order to be president. It’s a very simple equation. We have people in high ranking positions who have allowed & are continuing to allow this criminal act to stand. PURGE our government & install men and women who have served the Constitution loyally and who are NOT part of any secret society. Arrest & Nullify everything that this illegal president has done…investigate & prosecute. God Bless.

        • Guest

          I read an article a while back. It was about who can qualify to be president. Apparently this question went to court in the 50’s or around there. It was ruled that in order to be considered for president both parents had to be born in the USA. Again, I do not keep records to back up what I say, but that is what I read. I hope somebody here knows which case I am referring to and puts up a link. Oh, and as far as birth cert. goes,,if he was born outside of the US one to a US citizen and one to a foreigner , he couldnt have a birth cert., he would have a consular report of birth like I had to get for my son. They are basically the same thing but there must be a dif. if they have dif. names….maybe I am wrong..

  • KG

    Gee, while your at it, just nullify the 13th, 14th, and 15th amendments too. Bring back Slavery! Yea! You so-called “job creators” can then make millions of jobs – just like the “good old days” in the south. Before the “Northern Aggression” . Hey, and while your at it, how about the Preamble of the Constitution? Yea! Those Founding Fathers who were concerned about our ” common Welfare” must of been touched in the head! Yea!

    • LG

      KG – no one in Washington is even remotely concerned about the ‘common Welfare’ of the people. Their demonstrated concern is lining their own pockets at the expense of the people and increasing their power.

    • Vigilant

      “Hey, and while your at it, how about the Preamble of the Constitution? Yea! Those Founding Fathers who were concerned about our ” common Welfare” must of [sic] been touched in the head! Yea!”

      Thinking that the preamble to the Constitution is either (1) prescriptive law or (2) an endorsement of socialism because it uses the word “welfare” is a sure sign that someone is “touched in the head,” and it’s not the Founders.

    • rswallick

      kg, our wonderful rulers have created 16 trillion in debt, lets count it up, at 1 sec per digit. 500,000 years later we would be done. federal govt is on the verge of collapse and no matter how much you worship them taking care of you and wanting free stuff, good luck with that, you need to get a clue and get self relient, it is crumbling in front of our eyes

    • vicki

      Since slavery was brought down by jury nullification I don’t see why you would try to use it as an argument against nullification. (See vigilant’s post above http://personalliberty.com/2013/04/17/the-only-way-to-protect-your-2nd-amendment-rights-nullification/#comment-865975604)

  • Derek Balling

    How do you address the fact that SCOTUS has a LONG history, going back to 1798, of rejecting the very concept of “nullification”?

    This seems like wasting effort. SCOTUS will never uphold it, so why waste finite resources on this?

    • Vigilant

      The SCOTUS is not all-powerful. Andy Jackson, on the heels of a SCOTUS decision to establish the doctrine that the national government of the United States, and not individual states, had authority in Indian affairs, was said to have uttered, “John Marshall has made his decision; now let him enforce it!”
      Bottom line: the SCOTUS may say what it wishes. And the states may do as they wish. .

      • Derek Balling

        Yeah, that’s what the south said during Reconstruction and again during the civil rights era.

        Nullification has NEVER been valid. Period. Full-stop. One can’t even argue that the Founding Fathers supported it, since the earliest SCOTUS justices soundly rejected the idea.

        Focus resources instead on things that will make _actual_ _difference_.

        • Vigilant

          SUCCESSFUL nullification of the Fugitive Slave Law in the New England states and elsewhere was one cause of the Civil War. Moreover, the doctrine of “jury nullification” rendered the fugitive slave law powerless by acquitting violators.

          Nullification HAS been valid and successful. Period. Full-stop.

          • Derek Balling

            Vermont’s “nullification” of the Fugitive Slave Act was never actually put to a test in the Federal Courts, but given that no State Law that tried to nullify a Federal statute has ever survived a vigorous court battle, it’s not hard to believe it, too, would have been struck down.

            Jury-nullification is a completely different beast, and bears little to no statutory relationship to statute-based nullification efforts. Especially inasmuch as jury nullification only impacts a single defendant, and sets absolutely no precedent for any other defendants in other cases. If you happen to get lucky and get a free-willed jury to give you a not-guilty verdict in the face of blatant violation of an immoral statute, that’s lucky for you, but unlucky for the next couple hundred/thousand defendants who don’t get such free-minded juries.

          • Vigilant

            “Jury nullification” took effect as local juries acquitted men accused of violating the law. Secretary of State Daniel Webster was a key supporter of the law as expressed in his famous “Seventh of March” speech. He wanted high profile convictions. The jury nullifications ruined his presidential aspirations and his last-ditch efforts to find a compromise between North and South. Webster led the prosecution when defendants were accused of rescuing Shadrach Minkins in 1851 from Boston officials who intended to return Minkins to his owner; the juries convicted none of the men. Webster sought to enforce a law that was extremely unpopular in the North, and his Whig Party passed over him again when they chose a presidential nominee in 1852.” (Wikipedia)
            As I said, read and understand history before you make unsupported statements. Jury nullification had widespread and effective results, and not just on a limited scale.

          • vicki

            The fact that jury nullification only affects one defendant at a time is why the state tries REALLY HARD to hide from the people their right and DUTY to judge the law as well as the facts of a case.

            Imagine the DA’s frustration if the entire pool of jurors know their DUTY. Many unconstitutional laws would fall. http://www.fija.org

          • vicki

            Jury Nullification. To find out more about your right and DUTY to judge the law as well as the facts of a case, visit http://www.fija.org

        • rivahmitch

          So, Derek, if the government refuses to honor it’s contract with the people (refuses to enforce properly passed laws which the “President” doesn’t like) and ignores Constitutional limitations on it’s powers, what is the responsibility of the people to that government? I’d suggest that like any other contract, the willful breach by one party voids the contract. I’d also suggest that those who are unwilling to kill and die for their rights and liberties will deservedly lose them. Semper Fi!

          • Derek Balling

            I think that’s part of what the 2nd Amendment is there for.

            The last defense against tyranny.

        • Vigilant

          For you to say that “one can’t even argue that the Founding Fathers supported it” shows an ignorance of history. You need to check the Kentucky and Virginia Resolutions, as well as Madison’s writings. They were written by Madison and Jefferson, both of whom I think you will grant were Founders.

        • Right Brain Thinker

          Vigilant apparently would rather promote nullification, secession, rebellion and insurrection—-you know, all those things that make a country united, strong, and cohesive? And lead to large numbers of people being deprived of their “god given rights”, like LIFE, never mind liberty and the pursuit of money (oops, I meant “happiness”)

          • Derek Balling

            Well, hold on, let me be perfectly clear: I support secession at this point, absolutely.

            If the contract between the states and the Federal government is not being upheld, then like a bad marriage either side should have the right to file some paperwork and walk away.

          • Right Brain Thinker

            Is that what you meant by “Focus resources instead on things that will make _actual_ _difference_.”? Yeah, some “difference” that would be—-the destruction of the Nation.

          • Derek Balling

            I support it. I think there may yet be other options, other last avenues to explore, certainly. But the secession of a few states is not “the destruction of the Nation”.

            Unless, of course, you think so little of the appeal of the Nation that you think that once a few states leave, everyone else will follow. In which case, why struggle to hold that together at all?

          • Right Brain Thinker

            The last time we had “secession” by “a few states”, we had a civil war. Would we not have one today if some states seceded and the majority stayed in the union? I do not think “everyone else will follow” the lead of the states inhabited by the mindless who would secede. In fact, I really don’t think one state will ever secede and hope it doesn’t happen—even though the proportion of mindless in some states might make it close. If it did happen, the resulting turmoil WILL hurt the nation badly.

          • Derek Balling

            We had a war because the “remaining” states insisted that those who wanted to leave couldn’t leave (a lot like the abusive spouse who insists that if the abused-spouse leaves, he’ll smack her around until she agrees to stay).

            Today, unlike in the 19th Century, there is international doctrine (set into place at the *behest* of the United States) that people have the right of self-determination. Just as we insisted that the Soviet republics had a human right to break free of the USSR and go it on their own, those same international principles would apply to, say, Texas, if it wanted to break free of the USA.

          • Right Brain Thinker

            Yes, let’s ignore the fact that “those who wanted to leave” back then were the ones “abusing” everything, because they wanted to continue “abusing” their fellow man by enslaving some of them. (And the “abusive husband” thing is a VERY bad analogy)

            It is true that there is a difference today, but I wonder who in the world would come to the aid of those who try to “go it on their own” here? The “behest” of the United States was just a way for us to get the world behind our efforts to remove regimes we didn’t like. If anything, other nations would support the “remaining” states because it would be in their self interest to do so.

            IMO, we would have another “war”, and it would be harmful.

          • Derek Balling

            There would only be a war if the “Remaining” states couldn’t see fit to allow folks the right to self-determination guaranteed by the United Nations in the “International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights”:

            “All peoples have the right to self-determination. By virtue of that right they freely determine their political status and freely pursue their economic, social and cultural development.”

            So only if the “Remaining States” were willing to violate international law would there be a war. And if the US was going to blatantly violate international law to subjugate its breakaway republics, do you REALLY think it would retain the moral high ground?

          • Right Brain Thinker

            Retain the moral high ground? LOL When did we have it?

            It would be interesting to see what the “remaining states” would do, but I seriously doubt they will be all that concerned about what the UN “guarantees”, and it will likely be a replay of the 1860’s.

          • rivahmitch

            I suspect we may find out (though it will be more than one state) if the mulatto Mussolini continues to ignore the Constitution and treat citizens his serfs. Semper Fi!

          • Vigilant

            RBT, as usual, is wrong. What is “apparent” to him is completely unsupported by my comments. Here again we see the RBT straw man argument. He just loves putting words in my mouth.

            Tell me, RBT, just where and when did you find any advocation on my part for “secession, rebellion and insurrection?” I’ll wait with bated breath for your answer.

          • http://www.facebook.com/CapitalistAtBirth Greg Murphy

            RBT is only thinking with half is brain. I usually ignore his ignorant rants, with his B.S. arguments.

          • Right Brain Thinker

            I try not to ignore YOU, Greg, but you say so little of significance that it’s difficult to pay you any real attention. Perhaps, in your actual ignorance, you are unable to understand what you call my “ignorant rants” and “BS arguments”? And that’s why you say little of significance in reply to them?. Ah well, it is a fact that half the country is below average in intelligence, and you can’t help it, I guess.

          • Vigilant

            And half of half is one quarter.

          • Right Brain Thinker

            Having become somewhat familiar with your thinking, I expanded on “And the states may do as they wish…”. I have no need to “put words in your mouth” so that I can attack them, Vig, you are most capable of saying things on your own that are eminently “attackable”.

            My compliments on knowing how to spell “bated”. I was getting tired of the “fish bait breath” joke with the “baited” breath.

          • Vigilant

            Sorry (for you), RBT. You can’t deflect the question with a diversionary tactic. I say again, “Tell me, RBT, just where and when did you find any advocation on my part for “secession, rebellion and insurrection?”

          • Right Brain Thinker

            And the states may do as they wish. .

          • Vigilant

            Amendment 9 – Construction of Constitution. Ratified 12/15/1791.

            The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.
            ——————————————————————————–
            Amendment 10 – Powers of the States and People. Ratified 12/15/1791.
            The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.

          • Vigilant

            As expected. When RBT is faced with his straw man, he runs away.

          • Right Brain Thinker

            There’s a difference between “running away” and arguing with a drunk, Vig. Put your straw man back in the closet before he breaks—-you will surely want to use him (inappropriately) again.

          • Vigilant

            This from a man(?) who has steadfastly refused to answer my question “Tell me, RBT, just where and when did you find any advocation on my part for “secession, rebellion and insurrection?”

            Either grow a pair and admit your error or admit you’re running away from a simple question. That’s three times and counting. You are a coward.

            FYI, 19 of my ancestors fought on behalf of the Union during the Civil War, one of whom died in Libby. There’s not a shred of support for “secession, rebellion and insurrection” in my bones.

            To borrow your words, NBT “has behaved like this before when he has been beaten in an exchange that HE.initiated and HE prolonged beyond any sensible stopping point. He now beats his chest, struts around like a demented rooster, simply declares victory, and disappears until next time.”

          • Right Brain Thinker

            Don’t think I’m gone, Viggie, and that you can sneak in and declare victory—-I was just just busy with leroy and AGW on another thread. AGW is a far more important topic than you.

            “And the states may do as they wish” says it all, and YOUR strutting around and calling me a coward won’t change that.

            Nice speech about your 19 ancestors—-I wonder if they would be ashamed of you helping to destroy the country they fought to preserve?

            And since we’re calling names here, you’re a poopy-face. Take that!

          • Vigilant

            A recap:

            1. NBT sarcastically says, “Vigilant apparently would rather promote nullification, secession, rebellion and insurrection—-you know, all those things that make a country united, strong, and cohesive?”

            2. Vigilant challenges NBT three times to support such an outrageous statement.

            3. NBT squirms this way and that, NEVER addresses the challenge but engages in other topics to try to distract and divert.

            4. When Vigilant, in the face of NBT’s refusal to admit his error, clarifies and contradicts NBT’s initial claim, NBT still won’t admit he is wrong, instead goes Alinsky and says, “Nice speech about your 19 ancestors—-I wonder if they would be ashamed of you helping to destroy the country they fought to preserve?”
            An odd comment, to be sure, since I share the values of my ancestors with regard to preservation of the Union.
            Tell me, NBT, do you think it was wrong for a number of states to nullify the Fugitive Slave Law?

    • Right Brain Thinker

      It’s not a question of using real “resources” that could be used for positive purposes, it’s a question of “doing things” that will make the paranoid and fearful “feel good”. If you were to give them an opportunity to contribute in a positive manner, they would just crawl back under their rocks, suck their thumbs, and clutch their Linus blankets. All that history of nullification rejection going back to 1798 means nothing to them—they want what they want when they want it.

      (Ever hear the old joke about the little boy who wants to engage a little girl in sexual activity? He says “I want what I want when I want it”—her reply, “You’ll get what I’ve got when I get it”).

  • Vigilant

    “In Maine and Washington State, bills to nullify unConstitutional bans on industrial hemp are moving forward.”
    Now that’s what I call a tempest in a teapot. Who gives a damn?

    • Right Brain Thinker

      Who gives a damn? Maybe the folks in Maine and Washington State?

      Have I got this right? SOME people’s nullification efforts in SOME states on SOME things are just fine with you, but others are not? I won’t waste any time shooting holes in that non-argument——it’s already Swiss cheese.

      • Vigilant

        No, RBT, you do not have it right. If my argument is made of Swiss cheese, yours is a straw man. Who said it was not “fine” for those folks to do that? What I said was, “who gives a damn?” Kindly don’t put words in my mouth.
        Read with comprehension, RBT, not with a predetermined aim to delegitimize my comments. By calling it a “tempest in a teapot,” the thrust of my posting was transparent: that this “burning issue” of hemp legalization is not important in the overall scheme of things. A faltering economy, unemployment, debt crisis, etc., are but minimally impacted by some localized carping on an issue that has little relevance to America’s problems.
        Yes, there are SOME who give a damn. I don’t, and most people don’t.

        • Right Brain Thinker

          Uhhh, Viggie, I don’t want to make you squirm, but if the English language hasn’t changed, the only interpretation of “ME and WA hemp issues—tempest in a teapot—who gives a damn” is that you don’t and others shouldn’t. Lord love a duck!—-It’s ALL YOU SAID. Why would you bother to say it and nothing else about the article if that wasn’t your intent?

          You don’t need me to delegitimize your comments, Vig, you do a pretty good job of that on your own. And you’ve done it AGAIN by your attempts here to wriggle out of your first comment.

          “Localized carping”, “minimally impacted”, “little relevance”, “not important”? You have yet again dismissed the folks in ME and WA and again proved my point. Your “Swiss cheese” argument is now so full of holes that is nothing more than crumbs on the floor.

          • Vigilant

            “…the only interpretation of “ME and WA hemp issues—tempest in a teapot—who gives a damn” is that you don’t and others shouldn’t.”
            Well, congratulations RBT! You got it half right. You are correct, I don’t care about such fringe issues. As for “others shouldn’t,” well that’s correct too, but I didn’t say that. If the issue is about English language, I’d say YOU are the one squirming, not I. You are free to infer whatever you wish from my remarks, but you are a charlatan the moment you play that straw man argument game with me…and you have a particular and irritating penchant for doing so.

            “Why would you bother to say it and nothing else about the article if that wasn’t your intent?” I posted a number of comments of a different nature, if you care to check it.

            Even if I had posted a comment on that particular item and no other, what is your problem with that, “Teach?” This is not an essay assignment. I and others (yourself included) make comments in passing about a portion of a posting every day.

            P.S. Judging from the stridency of your very nitpicky argument, I can only quote to you what I’ve quoted before, i.e., ” Heat is in proportion to the want of true knowledge.” – Tristram Shandy

          • Right Brain Thinker

            Viggie squirms yet again, as he tries to talk his way out of another corner he has painted himself into.

            He answers It’s ALL YOU SAID. Why would you bother to say it and nothing else about the article if that wasn’t your intent?”, with “I posted a number of comments of a different nature, if you care to check it”. Nice try, Vig, but we are talking only about the comment you made and that I responded to, not “other comments”. (And I love how you often bring up “straw men” to try to counter things you really can’t argue—you are quite good at calling other people’s legitimate arguments “straw men”—-too bad just saying it doesn’t make it so).

            And “Teach” gives an “A” for effort and an “F” for logic to this bit of squirming, “Even if I had posted a comment on that particular item and no other, what is your problem with that, “Teach?” This is not an essay assignment. I and others (yourself included) make comments in passing about a portion of a posting every day”.

            “Teach” would also write in red ink in the margins. “If you HAD made only this comment, RBT’s point would be even more valid. Regardless, the fact that you or anyone else makes “comments in passing” is a “straw man argument”—–each comment stands alone and needs to be judged on what it says”

            .
            Viggie is also bugging out his eyes, pointing a finger, and saying “stridency and nitpicking”! and “irritating penchant”! Yes, Viggie is squirming—-will he be smart enough to stop before every last crumb of his Swiss cheese arguments is licked from the floor by the “hounds of truth”?

          • Vigilant

            RBT loves to make a major production from the most banal of comments. He turns an essentially parenthetical remark into grand opera, analyzing, inferring, extrapolating and obfuscating in his petty pursuit of the victory which inevitably eludes his frail grasp.

            Go ahead, “Teach,” have the last word, upon which you always insist. I’ll waste no more time on you.
            BTW, you seem duly impressed with my English skills. Thank you.

          • Right Brain Thinker

            Yeah, Vig, I WILL have the last word because you have again demanded that I do—-I will oblige. And don’t forget, the “last man standing” and “he who holds the ground” and all that. I have also TAKEN the last word as you abandon the field.

            Vig has behaved like this before when he has been beaten in an exchange that HE.initiated and HE prolonged beyond any sensible stopping point. He now beats his chest, struts around like a demented rooster, simply declares victory, and disappears until next time. He will “waste no more time on me”? Uh-huh—-self delusion on his part—what he is doing is running for cover.

            However, he must squirm yet some more before leaving, as he attempts to justify to himself why he behaved so foolishly. in prolonging this exchange—-“essentially parenthetical remark into grand opera, analyzing, inferring,
            extrapolating and obfuscating in his petty pursuit of the victory”.

            Yeah, Vig, you DO have a marginally better vocabulary and grasp of sentence structure than some of the PLD denizens. Too bad your thinking skills aren’t up to the same level—-if they were, you could use those skills to make intelligent arguments that others would listen to and agree with rather than expose as foolishness.

          • ChiefBoring

            I am not commenting on your posts, RBT, but am just curious about your preoccupation with the Lord loving ducks. You’ve used that line (paraphrased) several times. Again, just asking.

          • Right Brain Thinker

            Thanks for asking, Stan. Since you did it politely (a somewhat rare thing on PLD) I’ll reply. I’m an old guy and I don’t remember where I picked it up, but LLAD is a rather archaic saying that probably goes back to WW 1 or before. Maybe it was in some piece of literature they made me read as part of my education. Actually, thinking about it, I kind of remember it having some kind of political connotation—a “working man versus the British aristocracy” thing. No matter.

            It expresses such feelings as consternation, bewilderment, amusement, and surprise at what people say—-in reply to statements that invoke a “wow”, when I read them. To me, it’s better than saying “What are you, freakin’ NUTS?”, or “That’s the STOOPIDEST thing I’ve ever heard”, as many of the more talented wordsmiths on PLD are wont to do.

            I wouldn’t say I have a “preoccupation” with LLAD—-wrong choice of words on your part—-I use the term frequently when it’s appropriate because it’s a shorthand way of making a point (semi-politely) and I like the way it looks and sounds—words are fun. I also like “snark” and “snarky” for the same reasons and used to use them a lot on PLD, but there’s no sense in saying the “sky is blue” twenty times a day, so I don’t use them much any more..

  • worldwatchman

    What do you do if you live in democrap country? Everyone from the Governor to the Mayor is democrap. The Senators are democrap. Wanting to get somethng nullified especially, anything to do to protect the 2nd Amendment would NOT pass the Governors desk. Ever. It would end up in his trash can. It would get that far.

    • http://www.facebook.com/CapitalistAtBirth Greg Murphy

      Vote with your feet and move.

      • worldwatchman

        Thanks for the advice. Believe me, I’ve thought of that but, that’s easier said than done. If I ever hit the lottery I’m going to buy an island somewhere, declare myself a nation and get foreign aid. Just like the way our enemies get it from U.S. taxpayers today if you catch my drift.

  • rendarsmith

    “If you’ve been spending your days calling politicians in Washington to support or oppose something, you’ve wasted your time. If you want to advance liberty, forget Washington. That is a pit of criminals; and you will never, ever accomplish your goals. Don’t call anyone there. Don’t send any letters to your Representatives or Senators. Don’t support their campaigns or donate your money. Forget that the 202 area code even exists.”
    100% true. I have given up writing my two senators, they are both fools. Writing letters to Washington accomplishes nothing.

  • rivahmitch

    Hardly the only way but certainly the least painful. The ultimate alternative is to use the rights provided by the 2nd Amendment to defend those rights. That’s why it’s there. MOLON LABE! Semper Fi! KTNN!

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Bud-Wood/100000047885420 Bud Wood

      Yes Indeed! Most people don’t understand why there is a 2nd amendment – – it’s there to protect from an over-controlling government and, no, it’s not too late.

      • Michael Shreve

        AND, we the militia are there to protect our state from the federal government.

    • vicki

      We have 4 boxes given to us by the founders to use to defend freedom and liberty.

      The Soap Box (here for instance)
      The Ballot Box
      The Jury Box (www.fija.org)
      The Ammo Box

      The 4th box must be carefully protected and NEVER used until ALL of the first 3 have been compromised. So far only the ballot and jury boxes have been.

      Ballot box (many many instances of voter fraud)
      http://townhall.com/columnists/johnhawkins/2012/09/14/7_examples_that_show_voter_fraud_is_a_huge_problem/page/full/

      Jury box (NDAA 2012)

      • Ole SC

        Attagirl Vicki, I like it!!

      • MildBill

        Good One ! . . . Let’s not forget the Kleenex box for the liberals. . . . . . Whiners and sniffers, all of them !

  • TIME

    Dear Michael,

    I agree with you in principal, > as you are in fact 100% correct.

    Saddly the fact is that most ~ as in over 80% of the American people are in fact just plain ignorant of what has been done to them over the last 150 plus years, To add to this they are also LAZY, let alone they have become Illiterate no matter how may degrees they may have.

    Thus they eat from the troth of what ever BS story is the platform of the moment with all its side effects that rippel outward.
    Clearly a case of where Americans respond, by way of “ginned up emotions.” To acquire the disired effect.

    Until the “Original Constitution” as well the “Original 13th Amendment” are re-engaged, we will all be fighting a very confusing battle for the average SHEEP.

    Please do keep in mind New York Citys average High School grad being on a 3rd Grade reading level, 2nd grade math level, science levels at below that of a field mouse, let alone History knoledge that can rivial a bag of rocks.
    Also Keep in mind the amount of TAX’s the folks in NYC pay toward education, then look at the results of this mindless act of extortion, thats been supplanted with “PRIDE in failure”

    The Youth are the key – every Despotic criminal within the power structure knows this, thus they have exploited this factor by way of Pernicious laws, that allow them to be above the laws they create to keep the mass of sheep in check.
    Thus in turn growing a new crop of “Sociopaths” for every generation.

    Again ~ In conclusion, the theory is a good one, local and state control, but the facts are as noted by one of the mindless sheep who posted ~, most Americans think we have a ” Democracy” ~ AKA ~ { Mob Rule } 50+1 % ~ it fact we do now have that form of governance, but only by way of bait and switch.

    The facts are this nation was based as ” A Constitunal Republic” of what was lost in 1861.
    A Constitunal Republic is the law of the land where each person is a “Sovereign” within a “Sovereign State”
    But after the District of Columbia act, we now are all SLAVES to the Corporation known as the “United States inc”

    Thus to withdraw from this criminal cabal is the only true method of repairing the damage, of what I again agree with you that this will take a LONG TIME to repair.
    As we have gone so far down the rabbit hole into this criminal platform of governance.
    Saddly its going to play out that most Americans will have to die to be free from thier chains of bondage they claimed with such pride as indentured servants.
    Afterall the average debt owed by each American is what again?
    Thus even the most brain dead can see what their true title is,
    ” INDENTURED SERVANT to the state.”

    Peace, Love, Shalom, The Christ’s arms are open and waiting for you, who among you will ask for his Grace.

    • Bruce

      Time, You got that right.

  • howe joseph

    VP Biden is an ignorant white stooge with dim witted logic and is nothing more than a prop to make the community organizer look like a genius. This ploy by the democrats is nothing more than having a token white to support the idea that the President is for all Americans. It should be obvious after four years that Obama is not a President for all people. He engages in race baiting, demonizing and dividing people in this country to further his socialistic political agenda. The sad part of this equation is that a third of the country actually believes all that trash talk.

  • laidbackrebel

    I have already nullified any attempt to take by any means, my rifles, and pistols. Yes, that does include registration. My nullification will continue to eternity, or my demise, whichever comes first.

  • BrotherPatriot

    Nullification is indeed the answer. This can be applied on many levels concerning all the subjects that Mr. Boldin mentioned above. I’m in agreeance with the need to focus on the local state level vrs at Washington DC.
    Washington DC is a den of vipers…
    God Bless.

    • vicki

      When thinking local remember the jury box. www,fija.org

  • Two to Beam Up

    Nullify first – vote them out 2nd.

    • vicki

      Don’t do one then the other. Do BOTH as soon as practical.

  • http://www.facebook.com/CapitalistAtBirth Greg Murphy

    Proudly, I am a resident in the state of Missouri right now. If this law is not passed over the Democrat Governor Jay Nixon’s veto, I will be surprised. I wonder if Nixon will veto the bill. I think it would end his career in politics in this state. McCaskill only won because the Republicans has a poor nominee. He wasn’t my choice and lost the debates to John Brunner, who would have wiped the floor with McCaskill. When will the Tea Party in Missouri get a clue and quit supporting these idiotic fringe candidates who are political novices?

  • Jake Thomas

    Sorry, but the state of California makes it impossible. California voters continue to vote democratic (not that the reps are really any better)even as they talk about how bad of shape this state is in.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Bud-Wood/100000047885420 Bud Wood

      This is not a situation where political parties can recognize problems. The political (collectivist) mentality is the problem.

  • http://www.facebook.com/tim.ravndal Tim Ravndal

    Montana has moved several nullification bills through the legislature and have had them either gutted by politically correct legislators, or vetoed by an unconstitutional Governor. Some have given up and have thrown in the towell. It is now that we must advance nullification at the local level. Attend a city council meeting or a county commission meeting and find out for yourself how entrenched the tyranny is.
    “Think Globally, but Nullify Locally”

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Bud-Wood/100000047885420 Bud Wood

      Entrenched? It’s their way of life!

    • vicki

      Include http://www.fija.org Jury Nullification in your local action.

  • http://cowboybyte.com/ Alondra

    O’homo’s policies and laws do everything to suck money from the hard working Americans and to make them EQUALLY poor and thus making them the hostages of the bankers.

    Please watch this video: “Iron Mountain – Blueprint for Tyranny”

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vYinZyxjsZM

    The video is long (2:40:00), but it’s worth the time. It’s an eye opener.

    In 1961 the Kennedy administration ordered a top secret study to determine the problems facing the United States, if the world moved from an era of War to a Golden Age of peace.

    By 1963 the selection of specialists had been made. The final Study Group consisted of 15 experts in various Academic disciplines, selected for their expertise in their respective fields. Their first and last meetings were held at an underground nuclear
    survival retreat called IRON MOUNTAIN.

    This study was concluded in 1966. President Lyndon Johnson gave the order that the report was NEVER to be released, due to the nature of the conclusion reached. One of the men involved in this study elected to release it to the public, at great risk to himself
    under the name of John Doe. It was published in 1967 by Dial Press.

    The establishment promptly renounced it as a HOAX, but IT WAS NO HOAX.

    Iron Mountain is now hard to obtain, but many large libraries still have copies of it.

    This report looks deep into the soul of the NEW WORLD ORDER under the UN
    control.

    Iron Mountain is the covert agenda to bring the world, and America, under the control of the United Nations.

    Report’s objective was to determine, accurately and realistically the nature of the problems that would confront the United States…

    Program – Agenda: HOW DO WE CONTROL THE PEOPLE OF AMERICA if we move to an Era of Peace?

    Iron Mountain was ordered in1961, the same year that the United States made major moves towards disarmament.

    The Kennedy Administration knew that the United States would have to be submerged under United Nations.

    @10:30 Public Law 87-297 How could the American People be convinced to give up their constitution and Bill of Rights?

    In 1961 Public Law 87-297 was passed, paving the way for the United States to
    be merged into the United Nations.

    @51:00 The Objective of Eco-Scam?
    1. UN CONTROL OVER ALL LAND
    2. Ownership of the land to be held by the rich men”.

    @53:00 Michael Gorbachov: The UN will be the controller of all lands in the
    world thru the environmental organizations. The United Nations was set up be
    the “Rich men”. It is their front for world control.

    ECO-Foundations
    World Wildlife Fund
    Heritage Trust
    Nature Conservancy
    National Wildlife Federation
    The Sierra Club
    World Wilderness
    Congress
    Conservation International, etc.
    and many UN organizations.

    The “Rich men” sit on the board of directors of ALL of these groups.

    These groups are buying up huge chunks of private land for “conservation” and to “preserve” the earth. ALL OF IT OWNED BY THE “RICH MEN”.

    What they can’t purchase by normal means WILL BE TAKEN UNDER “ZONING” CONTROLS, DNR REGULATIONS OR OTHER LAND GRAB MEANS.

    ALL LAND WILL BE UNDER STRICT “ECO-CONTROLS”, BECAUSE OF THE “ECO-EMERGENCY”. IT IS A SCAM TO CONTROL THE LAND.

    DEBT FOR LAND SWAP: The international bankers loan and control the money to all countries, and, thru interest have driven them into huge debt status.

    The Bankers have a “NEW PLAN”. They WILL TAKE THE NATION’S LAND AND CANCEL THE DEBT OF THAT NATION. IT’S CALLED A DEBT FOR LAND SWAP.

    THIS LAND WILL BE HELD BY A “World Conservation Bank” owned, of cause, by the “rich men of the earth”.

    THEY WILL THEN OWN ALL THE LAND, ALL THE RESOURCES, ALL THE FOOD. THEY THEN BECOME THE MASTERS AND THE PEOPLE THE SLAVES.

    It’s a perfect scam. It’s a perfect system, because the “ECO-THREAT” IS GLOBAL, IT CAN ONLY BE CONTROLED BY A GLOBAL AUTHORITY. THE UNITED NATIONS IS THE ONLY “AUTHORITY”.

    “We will respond to the threat of climate change, knowing that the failure to do so would betray our children and future generations.” – the Kenyan Kriminal, Inaugural Address, January 21, 2013

    Watch it and You will understand WHY the Criminal O’homobama did NOT want to pass the Budget and WHY the impostor intentionally increases the DEBT of America.

    Please feel free to pass it on. Spread the TRUTH.

    “Magna est veritas et praevalet” – “The truth is great and shall prevail”
    “Fiat justitia ruat caelum” – “Let justice be done though the heavens fall”

    • rocco

      Wow. You are crazy paranoid aren’t you? And a little homophobic too.

      • MildBill

        Yeah, right ! . . . . . Said the spider to the fly ! . . . Wake up rocco and smell the agenda !

        • http://cowboybyte.com/ Alondra

          Dear Linda, do NOT waste your time.

          Rocco is the Alinsky’s disciple and he uses the Alinsky’s ‘Rules for Radicals’, which he dedicated “to the VERY FIRST RADICAL” Lucifer:

          “Lest we forget at least an over-the-shoulder acknowledgment to the VERY FIRST RADICAL: from all our legends, mythology, and history… the FIRST RADICAL known to man who rebelled against the establishment and did it so effectively that he at least WON HIS OWN KINGDOM — Lucifer.” – Saul Alinsky

          Rule 5: RIDICULE is man’s most potent weapon. It’s hard to counterattack ridicule, and it infuriates the opposition, which then reacts to your advantage. (One of the O’homobama’s favorites)

          Rule 8: KEEP THE PRESSURE ON. Use different tactics and actions and use all events of the period FOR YOUR PURPOSE.
          “The major premise for tactics is the development of operations that will maintain a CONSTANT PRESSURE upon the opposition. It is this that will CAUSE THE OPPOSITION TO REACT to your advantage.” (Another of O’homobama’s favorites…..Inauguration speech, for instance)

          Rule 9: The THREAT is more terrifying than the thing itself.

          Rule 10: The price of a SUCCESSFUL ATTACK is a constructive alternative. Avoid being trapped by an opponent or an interviewer who says, “Okay, what would you do?”

          Rule 11: PICK THE TARGET, FREEZE IT, PERSONALIZE IT,
          POLARIZE IT. Don’t try to attack abstract corporations or bureaucracies. Identify a responsible individual. Ignore attempts to shift or spread the blame.

          This is the central tactic of the left and the main reason for the DIVISION IN OUR COUNTRY right now.

          According to Alinsky, the main job of the ORGANIZER is to ATTRACT/DRAW AN OPPONENT INTO REACTING. “The enemy properly goaded and guided in his reaction will be your major strength.”

          To the left, THE END ALWAYS JUSTIFIES THE MEANS.

          For the Conservatives the TRUTH is the BEST WEAPON against the indefensible policies of the Marxists/Communists Lefty.

          Linda, do NOT engage in the empty debates. That is what the Alinskite’s goal is.

          Google the Alinsky’s ‘Rules for Radicals’. And also watch this Video. This is what happened to America. The ex-KGBist warned America, but America did NOT listen.
          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5gnpCqsXE8g

          “Great is TRUTH, and mighty above all things.” 2Ezdra 4:41

          Veritas semper vincit – Truth always conquers (But we have to FIGHT for her majesty the TRUTH)

          P.S. “Seek the LORD while He may be found; Call upon Him while He is near.” (Is. 55:6)

  • TomKi

    Now if Kansas would nullify the HSUS and Born Free America by repealing its exotic animal ban.

  • S.J. Jolly

    “The Federal government is filled with sociopathic criminals.” Judging by some of the comments in this thread, so is the Personal Liberty Digest readership.

  • http://www.facebook.com/kb.marauders Kb Marauders

    My Senators are so far up Obamnuts ass that they can count his fillings.

  • Alex

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    • vicki

      Ad hominem

    • Vigilant

      …and which “Brian” are you talking about?

  • BE AT PEACE

    I have read many comments, and I do agree. Sadly I believe it is worse than your words have conveyed. I propose there are hidden powers (I will call them self-appointed Elites) behind the scenes who are not true American citizens, they have been, and are now pulling the strings of the puppet powers in America.

    I propose these same people control the media as propaganda for their agenda.

    I believe they have “dumbed down” “brainwashed” and indoctrinated the majority of Americans. I believe one of their goals is to bring America to a state of “Depravity” in Spirit, Mind, and Body.

    Something to ponder ~ It may take only a few, and maybe just One individual who knows how to pray, and who to pray to ~ For your consideration

    • Bimbam

      Excellent reply. I sense you have a deep spirituality.

  • vicki

    Remember when working on nullification at the state and local level there is an even smaller unit of nullification that EVERY American needs to remember. It is one of the 4 boxes I have mentioned in the past.

    The Jury Box. http://www.fija.org

    It is your right and DUTY to judge the LAW as well as the facts of a case.

  • Bimbam

    This message make sense to me. I’ve always said if the populace ignore their bad leaders they will be powerless. The real fun part is they will just be a laffing stock and this is so appropriate.

    They really should be looking like fools and only be for amusement. You can take your children to the liberal zoo point at them and say, look, a dangerous liberall talking to himself. You must not feel sorry for them because if you unleash them they will only cause human misery and suffering. Let it forever be on them.

  • WTS/JAY

    Senate rejects attempt to expand background checks on firearm sales

    The United States Senate has rejected a gun control law that would have expanded background checks. President Obama, during a statement Wednesday afternoon, characterized Congress’ failure to pass the bill as a “shameful day in Washington.”

    Lawmakers in Washington voted 54-46 in favor of the Toomey-Manchin amendment Wednesday afternoon. The measure needed the support of 60 members of the Senate in order to be approved for a larger gun control bill to be voted on by the full Congress.

    Hours earlier, Vice President Joe Biden urged lawmakers to adopt the amendment.

    “I hope to God that there’s 60 people up there who have the courage to stand up,” Biden said Wednesday afternoon. “It doesn’t take that much courage. The people are with them.”

    The vice president was in attendance on Capitol Hill for Wednesday’s vote on the chance that he’d be required to cast a ballot himself. Under Senate rules, Mr. Biden serves as president of the Senate and can cast votes in instances that would otherwise end in a tie. Just one day earlier at a speaking engagement in Baltimore, Maryland, the vice president said the vote “may literally come down to one or two senators.”

    Before the vote, relatives of the victims of the mass shootings in Newtown, Connecticut and Aurora, Colorado gathered on the groups of the US Capitol Building to read aloud the names of Americans killed with the barrel of a gun during the last year.

    Patricia Maisch, a victim of the 2011 Tucson, Arizona shooting that critically injured Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords, yelled, “Shame on you!” as the vice president read the results of the vote. “They have no soul,” she said.

    Also on Wednesday, White House press secretary Jay Carney urged members of the Senate to pass new firearm restrictions, such as the Toomey-Manchin amendment, a bi-partisan effort that would have expanded background checks to new arena not currently covered.

    “Ninety percent of the American people support expanded background checks. If you are opposed to this legislation, you should obviously explain why you are against what 90 percent of the people are for,”Carney said.

    http://rt.com/usa/the-background-checks-senate-027/

  • Michael Shreve

    The Free States ARE the federal government. It was THEY that created it and it IS they who can dissolve it. WE THE PEOPLE delegate power upward to the federal government NOT the reverse. We can and MUST demand that government answer to US.

  • http://www.facebook.com/steve.kinard.9 Steve Kinard

    Thank you for the heads up.

  • ChuckS123

    I disagree. No matter how bad the feds are, they still pay some attention to us – especially if a lot of us make a lot of noise. Some democrats voted against backround checks, so they do listen to us to some extent. it’s great that some local action is working – do that too.

    As a side note, Obama and congress control some very dangerous weapons, so how about backround checks on all of them? How about drug testing all of them? Prozac as well as pot.