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Personal Liberty

Ben Crystal

is a 1993 graduate of Davidson College and has burned the better part of the last two decades getting over the damage done by modern-day higher education. He now lives in Savannah, Ga., where he has hosted an award-winning radio talk show and been featured as a political analyst for television. Currently a principal at Saltymoss Productions—a media company specializing in concept television and campaign production, speechwriting and media strategy—Ben has written numerous articles on the subjects of municipal authoritarianism, the economic fallacy of sin taxes and analyses of congressional abuses of power.

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  • Palin16

    During the government shutdown, all the plants in Michelle Obummer’s White House garden died because there were no gardeners to water them. Too much hardship for Michelle to water them herself?

    • http://www.rt.com Alondra

      The first witch doesn’t have time to water the plants by herself. She is too busy, her schedule is too tight. During the week she is practicing the pole-dancing and on the weekend she performs it.

      Karolyn calls it dancing. I call it vulgarity.
      http://theblacksphere.net/2013/03/first-lady-pole-dancing/

      What do you think, Palin, is it appropriate for the first “lady” and mother of the two teenage girls to act like this?

      • http://batman-news.com samurai

        Keep up the good fight fellow patriot. No quarter! If she was a lady, I would say no it isn’t. But alas! We know that she is just as big a pretender as her husband Obama bin Laden. I guess her surrendering her license to practice, to avoid being prosecuted for defrauding her clients, shows how much of a coward she really is. Not a good example at all. Here is an article describing about the possibility of Obama bin Laden being impeached.

        http://www.eaglerising.com/2297/sarah-palin-warns-obama-impeachment/

        FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
        You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot.

        “Men, in a word, must necessarily be controlled either by a power within them, or by a power without them; either by the Word of God, or by the strong arm of man; either by the Bible or the bayonet.”

        Robert Winthrop
        22nd Speaker of the House of Representatives
        Devout Christian

        • smilee

          Sammie, The Propaganda Kid strikes again, spreading his lies and filth!.!

          • nc

            Smilee. Samurai and rush limpaw have more blind spots than Stevie Wonder!!

          • smilee

            Right on!

          • Palin16

            That’s not funny.

          • Bob666

            yes it is, you just have a myopic sense of humor.

          • FreedomFighter

            Bob666

          • Bob666

            There is a point to this?

          • http://www.rt.com Alondra

            My Dear Friend,
            Your point as ALWAYS correct.
            I like Honest, Intelligent, God loving and God fearing men, who do not afraid to confront the EVIL.

            You are one of them.

            “Be strong and courageous. Do not be frightened, and do not be dismayed, for the Lord your God is with you wherever you go.” (Joshua 1:9)

            “Behold, I am sending you out as sheep in the midst of wolves, so be wise as serpents and innocent as doves/(or Alondras).” – Jesus Christ (Matthew 10:16)

            ***Translate my name from Spanish.

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            Another disrespectful remark from one of the “compassionate” Liberal Progressives.

          • John

            The lid is off the septic tank smilee and the toilets in the house have been flushed five times so there is lots of fresh stuff for you. One was even from a bad case of diarrhea. Ummm good taste for you.

          • smilee

            Bob, Does John’s crude remarks violate your comment policy?

          • Average_Joe56

            Liberals don’t know what a septic tank is….you must call it by the liberal name…..The Liberal “Punch Bowl”.
            Pass out the straws!
            ;)

          • http://personalliberty.com/ Bob Livingston

            Dear smilee,

            Your gratuitous attacks on other posters is a violation of the comment policy.

            Best wishes,
            Bob

          • smilee

            How about all the ones samuria and other have and do throw at me?? Far worse most times. I have never used profanity ( you have not deleted portions of mine) and what I said to him I believe to be true, can you not respect my views.? My view of samuria is that he is about the most crude, rude and disrespectful poster on here who insults many.. Are you OK with his posts?. Do they meet your comment policy? I liked your response.

          • Average_Joe56

            Actually smilee,
            You are a serial abuser… and today, you are also basically spamming the boards with the same silly rant….to everyone you disagree with. You detract from the conversation rather than adding anything of value to it.
            If you don’t like the way you’re treated here, you are free to leave at any time. If you choose to stay, try adding something of value to the conversation…something other than your unsubstantiated opinion….Mr. Lame-o Blame-o ( Lame attempts to Blame others with nothing other than your opinion)
            Sorry, no parting gifts for thee today….Thou doest not appear trustworthy…..

          • FreedomFighter

            smile

          • http://personalliberty.com/ Bob Livingston

            Dear smilee,

            Just understand you have been warned.

            Best wishes,
            Bob

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            Why don’t you read the response given to you by Bob Livingston. Sounds like a warning to me. Ha, ha, ha, ha! You have been busted. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
            You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot. This leaves you out traitor.

          • smilee

            Sammie, The spreader of Propaganda strikes again, spreading his lies and filth!

          • smilee

            Sameria, He will probably kick me off, my views are not to welcome to him and that might be his response so he can silence me. So if you do not hear more from me you can assume he did.

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            Sleepee said — ” The Propaganda Kid strikes again, spreading his lies and filth”.
            Do you not understand that your statement was not only slander, but also unnecessary and ignorant?

          • smilee

            But truthful and I know that is not important to you. and sleepee, have I ever complained about this rudeness and slander of yours? It is not as bad as sammie says all the time and you give him a free pass as I think he holds the record for rudeness and slander. Do not preach to me on slander or rudeness I get a lot of it and I give back. You get sammie and you to quit all the derogatory name spelling and other rudeness and I will no longer do it either. Do we have a deal??

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            No Sleepee, it wasn’t truthful. Slander involves disparaging remarks that are dishonest. If what you said was truthful, I wouldn’t have called it slander.
            And I haven’t slandered anybody, Sleepee. You just make stuff up. You’re a dishonest, slandering, useless troll, Sleepee. And every one of those names was fact-based, so they are not slander.

          • smilee

            Your a joke, your opinion means nothing to me as almost always they are baloney based and you have nothing to support with facts even thought you claim to., just throw it out to see what may sticks. Sign of a know nothing.

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            My opinion, Sleepee, is that ignorance is one of your better qualities.

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            Why would Bob want to silence you (as deserved as it is), Sleepee? You are our best advertisement for the uselessness of Liberal Progressives.

          • smilee

            I do not know if he will, you will have to ask him? Do you work for him? Does Samari work for him?

          • Nadzieja Batki

            TODH, smilee has all the symptoms of persecution complex which he thrives on. The more were respond negatively to him the more he believes he is succeeding breaking this site down.
            Simply stop wasting pearls on the pig in the pigsty.

          • http://personalliberty.com/ Bob Livingston

            Dear smilee,

            You write: “He will probably kick me off, my views are not to (sic) welcome to him and that might be his response so he can silence me.” Understand I need no excuse to “silence” you. However, like everyone else, you are welcome to continue your dialogue, such as it is, as long as you abide by the comment policy.

            Best wishes,
            Bob

          • Nadzieja Batki

            Really smilee, the quotation samurai posted can be summarized this way, if a man/woman will not control their behaviors they will give control over their lives to someone who will control them, either it will be God or man. And no one should fall into the hands of man, God has mercy.

          • smilee

            I hear your spin and it smells like BS

      • FreedomFighter

        Alondra, after viewing the link I found myself temporarily blinded in one eye, A warning may be needed for that link.
        Laus Deo
        Semper Fi

        • http://www.rt.com Alondra

          I am subscribed to the Kevin’s Web
          http://theblacksphere.net/

          He is attacked by color “blind”, “tolerant” & “compassionate” Left-Wingers.

          Kevin Jackson on the Fox News

          He also has his Radio show.

          • JeffH

            Alondra, I agree. The Black Sphere is an excellant and informative website.

      • nc

        Alondra. surely you are not asking Sarah Palin how a mother of teen age daughters should act! She’s too busy with her grandchild that was born a little “early”! Maybe you ask Laura Bush what a “mother” does when her daughters drink under age with fake IDs?
        So far so good with the Obama girls and that includes their mom!
        “inbred haters are excluded from passing judgment”

        • Bob666

          Yo NC,

          Let not forget Jenna “Anheuser”-Bush, but when Dad drank a bit and did coke, Oh-what fine parental examples can be set. And yes, Sara “the baby making machine”: Palin whose daughter just said “No”.

          We could go on with such great conservative examples.

          Just remember-in the barn yard, even the family members are “makin bacon”

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            Don’t forget the lush Chelsea Clinton. In her case of immorality, the fruit did not fall far from the tree. Here is something about the dying of Obama bin Laden Care, thank the Lord.

            http://www.humanevents.com/2013/10/18/the-obamacare-death-spiral/

            FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!

            You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot.

            “I love this land that gave me birth; I love the Stars and Stripes. This country is where I intend to live – where I expect to die. To preserve the honor of the national flag…thousands of noble…colored men have fought, bled, and died.”

            Rep. John Lynch
            1876

          • Bob666

            That’s interesting Sammy,
            I don’t recall any Chelsea reports? I could be wrong on that, but she did not make the news like the boozin Bush twins.

          • Palin16

            No, she just had a $3 million dollar wedding that lasted for 3 months.

          • Bob666

            And your point would be?

          • Nadzieja Batki

            Possibly that such a large of money was spent to not have a marriage or a husband.

          • Bob666

            And again, what is your point? that makes her a bad person for what reason?

            Or is just because you got up on the wrong side of the slab this morning?

          • smilee

            Sammie, The Propaganda Kid strikes again, spreading his lies and filth! and HATE!1.

          • Bob666

            Well Sammie,
            “Don’t forget the lush Chelsea Clinton”

            I was curious about Chelsea and found very little about her that is negative Sammy. I would say that you owe her an apology for referring to her as a “lush”. Yea, there were a couple wacko web sites (the kind you like so very much) that infer her drinking in public, but there was not much regarding sex, drug or liquor.

            While there was one photo of her having a drink with a black guy and I am sure that is a deal breaker for you, there really is not much dirt on her.

            Would you like it if someone talked about your daughter that way?

            http://www.biography.com/people/chelsea-clinton-547578?page=2

            http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2188462/Chelsea-Clinton-husband-Marc-Mezvinsky-break-silence-marriage-break-rumours-children.html

          • Palin16

            I have a bumper sticker which says:
            “Appoint Chelsea Clinton as Ambassador to Libya.
            What difference would that make?”

          • Bob666

            it would be just another poor choice that you have made in your life.

          • JeffH

            Ahhhh 666, but we do know what your family is all about don’t we…your families winter retreat…all feeding at the trough.

          • Bob666

            Well Jeffery,
            I see that you are over pumping the testosterone cream again. I hate to tell you Jeffery, but those raisins of yours will never be grape again.

            Now, remember as you accuse me of trolling you, you chose to throw the first insult, so when you start crying like a baby, and you will as you always do-remember that.

          • JeffH

            POLLY WANT A CRACKER? baaarrraaaccckkkkk!

            You seem to think you know a lot about my raisins Yo ho ho and a pile of 666. You either have intimate knowledge or you’re having those kinky kinds of dreams again huh?

            FYI: Now you know I don’t cry…that’s your game…but you have been trolling after and directed your insults towards Nads and Alondra…for a liar that claims he’s a libertarian you sure like to suck up to the progressive hacks on here an awful lot…no matter how crude they are or how opposed to freedom and Libertarianism they may be.

          • Bob666

            Well Jeffery,

            “FYI, no, you have had a special”

            Are you getting so senile that you can finish a statement?

            Actually Jeffery, I don’t think about your raisins at all, you just seem to lack them as most of your comments seem to be over compensating for something?

          • JeffH

            Not even a good try 666…It’s not brain surgery to edit a comment 666 but admit that you do try hard to overcompensate for your lack of character.

            LMAO! Heh, heh, heh.

          • Bob666

            Well Jeffery,
            I guess you don’t have to worry about someone dong brain surgery on you then!

            For a guy who seems to intensely dislike me, you sure do seem to be consumed with my comments?

            I mean really, Why do you care if I’m a libertarian or a progressive (and you could not make up your mind on that one) if your not threatened some how? I have gone weeks without a care about what you think and I am only responding to you.

            As far as Character goes Jeffery, you will never be able to make a comment like that to me or anyone else with any credibility-You Have None.

            When You laugh, the world laughs with you, but when you cry, you cry alone.

            Since you have no one, go cry alone, What a baby!

            Just saying…..

          • JeffH

            Boo hoo hoo says 666!

            Lil 666, you’re spending an inordinate amount of time attempting to justify your tears. You’re a hypocrit and a liar 666…it’s that simple. Cry all you want, it changes nothing.

            Bottom line…you can dish it out but you can’t take it…it’s that simple.

          • Bob666

            Wow,

            Seriously Bang-Bang shoot’em up?

            There are no tears here at all & never have been.

            You see Jeffery, you’re a pathetic little old man who’s best days have come and gone a long time ago (and that is giving you the benefit of the doubt that you had good days).

            I have never cared about your politics, your religion, your irrational need & attachment to guns (probbably over-compensation) or the fact there is no one in your life that gives a Rats A$$ about you.

            I am just amused that you feel threatened by me as you really try to pull the “666 is just a bad guy” while crying like a baby.

            “You’re a hypocrit and a liar 666…it’s that simple”

            Again Jeffery-What Have I lied about? this is not the first time that you have made that claim & I have asked you that before – you got nothing!

            The fact that you defend two old crows on this site, one being the “Debbie-Downer of PLD who has never offered a kind word to anyone -really? The other of the swine species who is consumed by hate and envy.

            So Jeffry, please let me make this very clear, I was done with you a long time ago, you’re just not smart enough to figure it out.

            Go hug one of your guns-that is all you have.

          • JeffH

            You’re sure devoting a lot of time and nonsense attempting to justify yourself.

            Threatened? Attachment to guns? Pathetic little old man?

            That’s just childs talk…rolls off like water off a ducks back to me…but you keep believing yourself.

            Hey, I got your little video message…I don’t understand sheep talk but thank you just the same.

            Ta da for now!

          • Bob666

            Poor Bang-Bang,
            Digging up You-Tube videos and slandering someones family. No integrity, No honor, No manhood, No life.

            Accept it Jeff, I was done with you a long time ago.

            Now go Waller with the pig or hug your gun-that’s all you have.

          • JeffH

            LMAO!

            666 says “Digging up You-Tube videos and slandering someones family. No integrity, No honor, No manhood, No life….Accept it Jeff, I was done with you a long time ago.”

            Mirror whiny 666, mirror!

            Bad memory eh whining 666? I do recall correctly that it was you who first introduced your” family” into our little tit-for-tats a few months ago by bringing your wife into the conversation…your bad 666…try to be honest and admit it!

            Judging from your whiny childish & desperate responses one can easily surmise that you can’t let go of it and are indeed a liar .

            Never let your liberal/progressive emotions and anger control you…which is exactly what you do. Try as you may, you can’t bully me or anyone else that refuses to to be bullied. You’re outa’ your league here which is the only reason you “was done with me”.

            You can dish it out but you sure can’t take it.

            Here’s whiny little 666 crying like a baby.

          • Bob666

            Poor Bang-Bang,
            You have No integrity, No honor, No manhood, No life.

            Accept it Jeff, I was done with you a long time ago, you’re just not smart enough to figure it out.
            go hug your gun-that is all you have got.

          • JeffH

            Wah, wah, wah says li’l baby 666, wah, wah, wah.

            For someone who claims he was “done with me” a long time ago your 6 responses tell a completely different and dishonest story.

            If that were the case and true this little exchange would have been much shorter…but oh, no…like a good progressive li’l 666 let his emotions get the best of him and he instead chose to lash out in uncontrollable anger.

            Just so ya know, I don’t have to hug my guns…I just admire them for what they are…the well built tools of my hobby.
            http://s1162.photobucket.com/user/Hattles1/media/goodguncontrol_zps1c2aeaa3.jpg.html?sort=3&o=4#/user/Hattles1/media/goodguncontrol_zps1c2aeaa3.jpg.html?sort=3&o=4&_suid=13823024611480011035442042345689

            Ta da for now…catch you on the flip flop!

          • Bob666

            Poor Bang-Bang,
            You have No integrity, No honor, No manhood, No life.

            ” your 6 responses tell a completely different and didhonest story”.

            Like calling me a liar without any details?

            Accept it Jeff, your grasping for dignity-you’re embarrassing yourself.

            I was done with you a long time ago, you just have not figured it out..

          • JeffH

            No calling you a liar with what is now 7 responses, just count them from here up ya dummy, in just this thread alone. Proofs in the pudding whiny boy 666.

            Speaking of embarrasing oneself, If you’re “done with me” why do you keep on responding…unless you’re lying…which you clearly are.

            Bah, wah, bah, wah little emotional sheep man 666.

            Ta da until next time…enjoy.

          • Bob666

            Poor Bang-Bang,
            You have No integrity, No honor, No manhood, No life.

            As much as I am sure you will be disappointed, there have been no tears, no crying or emotion on my part.

            Accept it Jeff, again, your grasping for some dignity-your embarrassing yourself.

            I was done with you a long time ago, you’re just not smart enough to figure it out & remember-you started this dialog.

            Oh yes, it’s getting cold Jeffrey-time to pull out the Elmer Fudd hat and BTW, I never waste my time looking at your You-Tube stuff, so don’t knock your self out.

            Face it Jeffrey-your Insignificant…………..

          • JeffH

            Yeah, I’m so insignificant you can’t stay away…LMAO@bahhb666

            bahhhb666 says “I was done with you a long time ago, you’re just not smart enough to figure it out & remember-you started this dialog.”

            That’s right, I did start it…and I’ll finish it too! At some point, and I hope you’ll get wise enough to figure it out, you’ll realize that you keep repeating the same line “I was done with you a long time ago” over and over expecting a different result. You’re just not very bright are you bahhhb666.

            BTW, I see you’re a dog lover too.

            Heh, heh, heh…Ta da until your next response

          • http://www.rt.com Alondra

            Dear Jeff, you know I am agree with you 99.7%.
            But in this case I am in the 0.3% of disagreement.

            The members of that “family” are just stupid, ignorant and/or low-informed, because of their laziness.

            But the subject you are talking about belongs to the beast’s family. And the characteristic of this family is EVIL.

            “16 He causes all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on their right hand or on their foreheads, 17 and that no one may buy or sell except one who has the mark or[f] the name of the beast, or the number of his name.18 Here is wisdom. Let him who has understanding calculate the number of the beast, for it is the number of a man: His number is 666.” (Revelation 13:18) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6bEFo8BPBGc

            “The Lord is my rock and my fortress and my deliverer;
            My God, my strength, in whom I trust; My shield and the horn of my salvation, my stronghold.” (Psalm 18:2)

          • http://www.rt.com Alondra

            Dear Jeff, you know I am agree with you 99.7%.
            But in this case I am in the 0.3% of disagreement.

            The members of that “family” are just stupid, ignorant and/or low-informed, because of their laziness.

            But the subject you are talking about belongs to the beast’s family. And the characteristic of this family is EVIL.

            “16 He causes all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on their right hand or on their foreheads, 17 and that no one may buy or sell except one who has the mark or[f] the name of the beast, or the number of his name.18 Here is wisdom. Let him who has understanding calculate the number of the beast, for it is the number of a man: His number is 666.” (Revelation 13:18) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6bEFo8BPBGc

            “The Lord is my rock and my fortress and my deliverer;
            My God, my strength, in whom I trust; My shield and the horn of my salvation, my stronghold.” (Psalm 18:2)

          • JeffH

            Point taken!

          • Bob666

            yes, wisdom from the barnyard were she wallows in the slop.

            “But the subject you are talking about belongs to the beast’s family. And the characteristic of this family is EVIL.

            “16 He causes all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on their right hand or on their foreheads, 17 and that no one may buy or sell except one who has the mark or[f] the name of the beast, or the number of his name”.

            Very very sad!
            Well Jeffery, at least you are an American!

          • http://www.rt.com Alondra

            I knew that you are an astute boy.
            God Bless us.

            I saw you got threat from the beast’s relative. Isn’t he narcissistically over sensitive? Just exactly like his leader.
            Self-adoration does NOTHING good for man. It looks soooo ridiculously babyishly moronic.

            I hope you do not need 5 days waiting period:

            because the terrorist may be around the corner:

          • Average_Joe56

            Liberals in action! What could possibly go wrong?

            LOL

        • TheOriginalDaveH

          Wow, NutCase, thanks for exposing your Liberal Progressive “compassionate” side. Are you posturing for a Nobel Peace Prize?

      • John

        A very strong warning should be posted. You may have a blizzard of heart attacks from that.

      • Karolyn

        OMG Alondra. How old ARE you? On second thought, even my mother would not have called that vulgar. Can you dance at all?

        • http://www.rt.com Alondra

          1) K: “How old ARE you?”
          ~ First of all it’s not your business how young I am.
          Secondly, Values and Morality are ageless. But for the godless individual with the Pervert Mentality & Depravity like you are, it’s incomprehensible.

          “Virtue is persecuted by the wicked” – Don Quixote

          2) K: “On second thought, even my mother would not have called that vulgar.”
          ~ Well, the apple doesn’t fall far from the tree.

          3) K: “Can you dance at all?”
          ~ Only totally deranged & depraved mind will call that vulgarism a “dance”
          And yes, I can dance the real dances. I attended dance school when I was girl and young.

          But can you dance? I guess not.
          Once again you exposed your total stupidity and depravity.

          “Woe to those who CALL EVIL GOOD, AND GOOD EVIL; Who put DARKNESS FOR LIGHT, AND LIGHT FOR DARKNESS; Who put BITTER FOR SWEET, AND SWEET FOR BITTER! Woe to those, WHO ARE WISE IN
          THEIR OWN EYES, and prudent in their OWN SIGHT!” (Isaiah 5:20-21)

          I already told you and will repeat – you are EVIL.

    • http://batman-news.com samurai

      Keep up the good fight fellow patriot. No quarter! Another great great 8 by Ben and a fresh stoking of libturd/progturd logs burning on the fire. I love the smell of bacon from communist pigs in the morning. Alerts the senses. Here is an article about how we need Calvin Coolidge when it comes to our economy.

      http://www.patriotupdate.com/articles/cutting-federal-budget-calvin-collidge-need/

      Let’s vote out any of the ones that supported Obama bin Laden Care next year. Sook Young and I plan to. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!

      You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot.

      “Thanksgiving day is the national pledge of Christian faith in God, acknowledging Him as the despenser of blessings. This festival should be joyfully and universally observed throughout our whole country as inseparable from American life.”

      Sarah Hale
      Author of Cody’s Lady’s Book

      • nc

        Samurai. the “good fight” your group in Washington just put up has caused another decrease in the approval of your kind! You need to be careful since you are only playing with 1% of the deck!
        It won’t be long before you are second in popularity to Judas!

        • smilee

          Oh, I think he already might be!!

        • TheOriginalDaveH

          OUR group wouldn’t have caved. OUR group would have defunded most of the Unconstitutional Alphabet Agencies, and put those non-productive wealth-consuming Bureaucrats back to doing productive wealth-creating Private Sector work.

          • JeffH

            “OUR group wouldn’t have caved.”
            Thank you!

      • John

        Great post Sam. By the way, smilee is feeling his oats as someone left the lid off of their septic tank and he got out again. He had plenty to eat before he escaped so he will be at it for a while. When someones outlook is all brown and smelly you cannot expect to much positivity.

      • smilee

        Sammie, The Propaganda Kid strikes again, spreading his lies and filth! and HATE!..

    • smilee

      Silly, congress had funded the white house so there was no shutdown there as all other places that had been funded by congress including Obamacare. Got any other good lies for us today?

      • John

        How much are they paying you smilee. In cookies right? Those little brown things aren’t chocolate chips.

        • smilee

          I am fully retired I speak from the heart the truth and represent nobody but myself. Do you know what truth is?

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            Yes, Sleepee, it’s when your lips aren’t moving.

          • http://www.rt.com Alondra

            Smilee: “I speak from the heart the truth”
            – Smilee, you have to check if your heart is on the right place.

            Smilee: “Do you know what truth is?”
            – There is only ONE TRUTH – God’s TRUTH.
            And you are confusing the God’s TRUTH with the Devil’s voices.

            Smilee, search for the TRUE Truth.

          • smilee

            I did and I found it, will pray that you do some day soon.

          • Palin16

            For those that don’t know…smelly is a retired union thug.

          • smilee

            Retired and union but not a thug that is just an assumption on your part so can the lies. Have been associated with the union 50 years and I have yet to meet a union thug, doubt you ever have either, just some more of your baloney.

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            Union scum. Makes me want to go to the Cosmopolitan when I’m in Vegas tomorrow.

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            If you’re Union, you’re a thug. How else do you think they get their above-market pay?

          • smilee

            I’m sure .you believe that as your hatred of union runs real deep.. Hatred always blinds one from reality so to put any stock in your words would be just silly

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            oooooh, I’m a hater. I’m so hurt. Did you get your lollipop today, Sleepee?

          • smilee

            OMG! A utube video put out by an anti union group on a anti union site that shows people coming and going in a public setting with transposed audio with captions, very easily not the audio in real time more than likely nothing as they portray it. Anti union groups are almost always far right .radicals and have been caught many times doing these sort of things, Based on this you call them thugs and accuse them of harassment. Shame on you, do you really hate unions so bad you would make such statements based on this crap. This is not enough to conclude that it is what you say it is. Fact is you cannot be sure it is even unions participating. You cannot even see what the signs say or even be sure it was not a protest of some kind, I’ve have seen anti abortion protests in person look like that.too. This is just to suspect to believe any of it. Garbage!!

          • smilee

            How do you know??? sure you can hear bits and pieces but most you cannot hear and you cannot know who is saying it, how do you know it was not the tourist saying that you cannot tell who nor can you tell if it is where they say it is or if it is even union involved.. You hate the unions so bad and want to believe it so bad you ignore all this.. Do not forget this is on a union hate site and this utube could be doctored to make it appear that way but but you cannot tell.. Do not be a sucker use your head not your hating heart.

          • Jana

            It’s the unions all right. It’s been in the news. Where have YOU been. You can deny it all you want but you are wrong.

      • http://batman-news.com samurai

        Lies! Lies! Lies! If they had funded the White House, they wouldn’t need to cancel the tours of the White House, now would they? Go home and stay there. You are a disgrace to this country. Here is an article showing that Obama bin Laden wants a war with American conservatives.

        http://www.westernjournalism.com/obama-planning-civil-war-against-conservatives/

        He will lose. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!

        You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot. This leaves you out traitor.

        “Students should be taught theologically, with reference to the Being who is the author of them.”

        Thomas Paine

        • smilee

          Sammie, The Propaganda Kid strikes again, spreading his lies and filth! and HATE!.

      • Nadzieja Batki

        smilee, keep talking.You don’t even realize that what you said vilifies the WH because they exempted themselves from obeying the laws and regulations that they make for the nation.

        • smilee

          Another one of your lies!!

      • Palin16

        Once again smelly shows his utter stupidity in his rebuttal to me regarding Michelle Obummer’s garden. If he had done any research at all, he would find that indeed the WH garden was not taken care of during the shutdown. Plants were wilted, weeds growing like crazy, veggies left to rot, and squirrels invading the garden. Here is just one of MANY articles about the story:

        http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/michelle-obama/10378998/Michelle-Obamas-White-House-vegetable-garden-falls-victim-to-ongoing-US-government-shutdown.html

        • smilee

          LOL!! You do know much about gardens, late season weeds will not be overgrown in just 16 days, Mostly late season veg left that is not critical, I suspect your reading stuff by people who are trying to make mountains out of mole hills whom most likely got a personal dislike of the Obama’s this is a whole lot about nothing and we know you do not love the OBAMA’S. i’M NOT IMPRESSED BY YOUR BALONEY.

          • Palin16

            You don’t seriously think Michelle Obummer tends to that garden, do you? She only shows up for photo ops, just like Barry did for the bin Laden killing.

          • smilee

            I never said that but she has at times, but he is not charge of that. Obama was the man in charge of that killing so can you lies on that. .Whats you point as it did not address my post. Do you feel good about yourself when you say such hateful things about the Obama’s? Are you a racist too? Is that the reason?

          • Palin16

            Haha, you know you’re winning an argument with a liberal when they pull the race card out of thin air.

          • smilee

            It is a valid question when ones hates the Obama’s so bad as you did. I merely asked, I did not accuse you and you ducked out of answering it which makes one really wonder if it could be you are. Asking if you are is not playing race card as I had make no accusation you were. Did I hit your guilty button?

          • JeffH

            Ignoramus sleepee, you just can’t handle the idea that Obama can be disliked for anything other than the color of his skin.

            You merely confirmed to anybody that takes the time to read your inane and ignorant comments just what a bigot you really are sleepee.
            You are truely pathetic.

          • smilee

            Why do you put words in my mouth?? Never said there were not other reasons I only asked if that was her reason, did not make a statement of any kind so why do misinterpret… Assume, assume , assume, not true, so typical of you.what is wrong with you, do you think your a mind reader?. All your conclusions based on assumptions are not true and make you look so foolish!

          • JeffH

            Ignoramus sleepee says “Why do you put words in my mouth?? ”

            Are you really that simpleminded and ignorant? Yes you are!

            No assumption on my part and no one is putting any words in your mouth…you played the race card on me yesterday and on Palin16 today in this thread. Neither one of us has ever made racist comments about O or anyone else for that matter yet it was you who chose to go down that path with your ignorant assumptions that we must hate O because we’re racists and he’s black.

            Read it an weep! Your words and you own it and it is you who is the racist sleepee!
            http://personalliberty.com/2013/10/18/republican-leaders-cave-again/#comment-1087715177
            smellee says to JeffH(yesterday): “Your opinion of Obama is not based on fact but on your hatred and bias towards him and I would not be surprised if you also are a racist and that contributes to you inaccurate take on him.

            smellee says to Palin 16…above: “Do you feel good about yourself when you say such hateful things about the Obama’s? Are you a racist too? Is that the reason?”

          • smilee

            I read it! You have no respect for my opinion, what I said was “I would not be surprised if you where a racist” and, I would not, but never said you were so no race card was not played.. But being your making a big issue of it it really makes it look more and more like you are.Same thing for Palin.. Be honest Jeff there is a lot of hate expressed toward Obama in the vilest forms oh here ( just read Samari’s posts for example) so why would you be surprised when this question is asked.. You did not answer it but just accused me of playing the race card when I asked a simple question based upon you expressed hatred of him. Your misplaced anger really does make it look like you are guilty.

          • JeffH

            Stupid is as stupid does!

          • Jana

            You are so right smilee. We none of us have any respect for your opinion or lack of opinion! All you give generally are snide remarks. No decent conversation with you can be expected.

            How did YOU treat Bush? How did YOU treat Reagan?
            Don’t LIE here either.
            We have given reasons for our dislike of Obama and his POLICIES. What part of we don’t like what he is doing to this country can you not comprehend?????
            How really dense can you be. Has your dope smoking really affected you that much?

          • smilee

            We?? you got a turd in your pocket? You have never seen me treat either Reagan or Bush anywhere near as harshly as you people treat Obama or anyone with whom you disagree and then whine if we do the same back to you. I actually liked both Reagan and Bush even though I did not agree with them on many things, Do you like Obama?. To destroy his polices is one thing but the hatred and disrespect you show towards him personally suggests your motives are other than what you say they are. So that is why some do not believe what you say. you are making up things, I have not once smoked dope and even if I had you would not know that and you do the same about Obama, you make up all kinds of nasty things then state them as facts.

          • Jana

            Thank you for responding about the smoking dope part. I will honor what you said. I really was worried because sometimes you don’t write too well and it seemed that way. Now I know you are thinking faster than you are typing. At least I will give you that assumption.

            I don’t have to make up nasty things about Obama. The truth about him is bad enough.

            Show me what nasty things I have said about Obama if you can. Show us what Samurai has said that was nasty. YOU CANNOT!!!!

            You are the one that comes up with the garbage mouth, such as your first question to me. This is NOT the first time either.

            Remember garbage mouths have stinky breaths!

          • smilee

            I disagree with you on Obama the far right rhetoric about Obama is real bad but it is not true. I should of made it more here and I did not specifically mean you so I misspoke some. But Samaurai you would have to be blind to not see his vile remarks and intentionally misspelled words and names, he is one of the worst on here. Look again! well, do you like Obama?? Yo did not answer.

          • Jana

            I did answer. No, I do not like Obama. As I said above.

            —I don’t have to make up nasty things about Obama. The truth about him is bad enough.—-

            At first I figured he was a likeable enough person as he didn’t get where he was without being a nice guy. However, the more I get to know him and of him and the more I see him lie to the American public, no I don’t like him. I don’t respect him either. I don’t like or respect a liar, I don’t like or respect someone who in my estimation is ruining our country and turning it into a Socialist country.

            Smilee I don’t like or respect someone who tells us he is going to handle the scandals that have happened under his watch, but yet he has done not one thing about any of them and there have been 4 major scandals so far.

            He has Communists working as his Czars. He has Socialists working as his Czars. He has Muslim Brotherhood working as his Czars. These people are NOT elected but appointed by Obama. These Czars want to take God out of our society. You say you are a Christian, and this does not bother you even a little bit?
            It sure bothers me.

            Thank you for having a nice conversation with me.

          • smilee

            There has been no scandals just some human mistakes you have in your own mind elevated it to a that level, of course the GOP political rhetoric has done that too and .I guess you are a sucker for that. None of your assumptions are factual so you saying them does not make them true.. It is you who is the Liar here not Obama. Christians forgive mistakes and respect their leaders whom ever they are, all have sinned d so why make a bigger thing out of his sins than your own? Thank you to.

          • Jana

            I answered you above and it went under me.

          • Jana

            You don’t call 4 people dying at Benghazi, one of them our Ambassador, who had asked for additional security over and over and was denied not a scandal? You don’t call lying to the parents of the murdered young men’s parents, that it started over a video when it did not, a lie from the White House, and a scandal?

            Then you are blind.

            You don’t call the IRS debacle a scandal? Then you are blind. Sure you may not consider it to be a scandal since it didn’t affect you, or your party, but it is a scandal since it did affect Americans.

            Those are just two. They are not mistakes as you say, they were both criminal offenses.

            Benghazi was criminal negligence from Obama and Hillary Clinton at the very least. They left Americans to die because they told those that were ready to step in and help to STAND DOWN!

            The IRS is a criminal scandal because it was a pointed, deliberate and methodical attack on a certain political group of people. No matter what this was WRONG and a crime.

            You say Christians forgive mistakes. These are not mistakes, they are crimes! I have heard no one come forth including anyone from the IRS or the Benghazi affair even admitting they committed any wrong doing let alone asking for forgiveness from the families that they did the wrong to (from the families own mouths). In fact Hillary even asked what difference it made on how they died. Arrogance is what we have been getting.

            We are entitled to answers from our government especially since we do not live under a dictatorship no matter what some people think in this country.

            This was just answering 2 of the scandals.

          • Palin16

            don’t take my word for it, here’s your beloved HuffPost

            http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/10/14/white-house-garden-shutdown_n_4098922.html

          • smilee

            The is a Reuters article and interesting because the pic she talks about is not on the blog where she said it was of the squirrels eating a tomato. but is not there, The pictures on the blog tell another story, gardens look great. I have gardened lot and in the fall 16 days
            would not be that bad and would certainly not be overgrown in this time span and animals will always eat in gardens. I have a lot of squirrels but never seen one eat a tomato. This article makes no sense.

  • http://batman-news.com samurai

    Good morning everyone! Another fine day to sweep the field and smell burning libturds and progturds. No quarter! Long may they burn in their cespool of fire and brimstone. Here are 2 articles about Obama bin Laden, the Indonesian citizen.

    http://www.freedomoutpost.com/2013/10/obamas-pentagon-sell-advanced-weapons-systems-islamist-allies/

    http://www.freedomoutpost.com/2013/10/unmasking-barack-obamas-master-saul-alinsky/

    Keep up the good fight fellow patriots. No quarter! FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!

    You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot.

    “The church must take the right ground in regard to politics. Politics are part of a religion in a country as this, and Christians must do their duty to their country as a part of their duty to God.”

    Rev. Charles Finney

    • 010sonny

      Right Wing Zealots are going under investigation for human rights violations through out the world. One more example is with Greece who has just lifted the immunity on all extreme right wing personnel. They are now subject to criminalization, fines and civil law suites. Emulating other nations that are fed up with their right wing zealots.
      Germany, UK, France, Netherlands, etc., etc,
      Let us all gather at the river and follow the flow for eliminating this hatred plague from our humanities here in the USA.
      Right Wing Zealots are going under investigation for human rights violations through out the world. One more example is with Greece who has just lifted the immunity on all extreme right wing personnel. They are now subject to criminalization, fines and civil law suites. Emulating other nations that are fed up with their right wing zealots.
      Germany, UK, France, Netherlands, etc., etc,
      Let us all gather at the river and follow the flow for eliminating this hatred plague from our humanities here in the USA.

      • FreedomFighter

        Black Betty — For you from the troll patrol 0-bamba-lam
        Laus DeoSemper FI

      • frankenbiker

        You really use terrible examples, all those other country’s you mention have been under the liberal/progressive movement for years, with the exception of Germany, they’re all bankrupt, and people are pissed off at your lovely progressive ideas.

      • http://batman-news.com samurai

        Why don’t you go back to the psych ward you have obviously escaped from? It is time for your medication. Here are 2 articles dealing with the press and Obama bin Laden. It seems he has angered some of his MSM bunk buddies.

        http://www.westernjournalism.com/media-icon-exposes-obamas-war-press/

        http://www.westernjournalism.com/obama-ducks-cnn-attempts-keeping-honest-health-laws-enrollment-figures/

        FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!

        You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot. This leaves you out.

        “The moral duty of man consist in immitating the moral goodness and beneficence of God manifested in the creation towards all His creatures. That seeing as we daily do, the goodness of God to all men, it is an example calling upon all men to practice the same toward each other.”

        Thomas Paine
        Age of Reason

        • smilee

          Sammie, The Propaganda Kid strikes again, spreading his lies and filth! and HATE!!!

      • Nadzieja Batki

        I don’t believe your Dem/Prog/Leftist handlers would approve of the way you let the cat out of the bag.

      • TheOriginalDaveH

        What is your definition of a right-winger, Sonny?
        I would like to understand better where your conjecture is coming from.

    • smilee

      Sammie, The Propaganda Kid strikes again, spreading his lies and filth!..

      • John

        I see someone left the lid off of their septic tank and let smilee crawl out. Troll, go away lefty.

  • http://batman-news.com samurai

    Here is an article dealing with Obama’s rediculous educational plan.

    http://www.rownhall.com/columnists/michellemalkin/2013/10/18/how-not-to-argue-with-parents-about-common-core-n1726684/page/full

    Keep up the good fight fellow patriots. No quarter! FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!

    You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot.

    “A thorough knowledge of the Bible is worth more than a college education.”

    Theodore Roosevelt
    26th President of the U.S.

    • smilee

      Sammie, The Propaganda Kid strikes again, spreading his lies and filth!.

      • John

        You really are a troll and disease Smilee. You may just get the award of dirtbag of the year. Keep working on it, you do have competition.

        • http://batman-news.com samurai

          D’oh! :-) :-) :-) Keep up the good fight fellow patriot. No quarter! You have accurately described smelly to a “T”. Here is an article where a psychiatrist describes the mental state of Obama bin Laden. My wife showed me this one.

          http://www.westernjournalism.com/psychiatrists-shocking-analysis-of-obamas-madness/

          I knew he was mentally irregular, but had no proof. Now I do, thanks to this doctor. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!

          You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot.

          “We believe in the existence of God, and in the immortality of the soul.”

          Thomas Paine
          Age of Reason

          • smilee

            Sammie, The Propaganda Kid strikes again, spreading his lies and filth! and HATE!

        • smilee

          On here i would expect that, consider the source so it is meaningless and maybe even a compliment.

  • http://batman-news.com samurai

    Keep up the good fight fellow patriots. No quarter! Here is some news from the abortion front. More like the infanticide front.

    http://www.lifenews.com/2013/10/17/obama-admin-had-attorneys-during-shutdown-push-hhs-abortion-mandate/

    Here is some good news about abortion and the power of prayer.

    http://www.lifenews.com/2103/10/17/mother-pre-pays-1575-for-21-week-abortion-pro-life-prayer-warriors-change-her-mind/

    Infanticide is just another ploy of the libturds and progturds. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!

    You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot.

    “No candid observer will deny that whatever of good there may be in our American civilization is the product of Christianity.”

    Theodore Roosevelt
    26th President of the U.S.

    • 010sonny

      Here we have the forces of “Forced Breeding” under the zelots laws on women suppression.

      • Mike_Travis

        Have you not taken your pills today sonny?

      • http://batman-news.com samurai

        Argument to ridicule. Here is an article about a congressman calling for the people to rise up against Obama bin Laden’s unconstitutional dealings.

        http://www.westernjournalism.com/congressman-calls-americans-rise-obamas-un-constitutional-usurpations/

        FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!

        You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot. This leaves you out.

        “The cause of America is in a great measure the cause of all mankind. Where, say some, is the King of America? I’ll tell you, friend, He reigns above.”

        Thomas Paine
        Common Sense 1776

        • smilee

          Sammie, The spreader of Propaganda strikes again, spreading his lies and filth!

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            We won’t miss you, Sleepee.

      • Nadzieja Batki

        So according to you someone is keeping your zipper down and your privates up so you can keep breeding and creating more of a loser like yourself.

    • smilee

      Sammie, The Propaganda Kid strikes again, spreading his lies and filth!

      • http://batman-news.com samurai

        Put up or shut up traitor. Now be a good little sociopath and go play in the street. Here are 2 articles about the Tea Party. One was even a study done by Yale Univerity, a law professor named Dan Kahan.

        http://www.weaselzippers.us/2013/10/17/love-it-yale-study-finds-tea-partiers-know-more-about-science-than-liberals-researcher-shocked/

        I guess that one showed just who really has more intelligence.

        http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/oct/18/kuhner-the-tea-partys-coming-vindication/

        How about that? A vindication and more intelligent than libturds and progturds. I guess this proves who has the more intelligent minds. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!

        You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot. This leaves you and your traitorous family out.

        “Having undertaken, for the glory of God, and advancement of the Christian faith, and honor of our King and Country, a voyage to plant the first colony in the northern parts of Virginia, do by the presents solemnly and mutually, in the presence of God, and one of another, covenant and combine ourselves together into a civil body politic, for our better ordering and preservation and furtherance of the ends aforesaid; and by virtue hereof to enact, constitute, and frame such just and equal laws, ordinances, acts, constitutions and offices, from time to time, as shall be thought most meet and convenient for the general good of the Colony…”

        Mayflower Compact, 1620

        • smilee

          Sammie, The Propaganda Kid strikes again, spreading his lies and filth!…and hate

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            Argument to ridicule. Sure sign of the less intelligent mind. The sociopath strikes again, spreading his lies, filth, and hate. Here is an article about Obama bin Laden.

            http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/10/17/obama-win-elections/

            I hope he throws that gauntlet at my feet. I’d pick the thing up and run with it. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!

            You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot. This leaves you out traitor.

            “Those who expect to reap the blessings* of freedom, must, like men, undergo the fatigue of supporting it.”

            Thomas Paine

          • smilee

            Sammie, The spreader of Propaganda strikes again, spreading his lies and filth!

          • Nadzieja Batki

            So the history curriculums that were chosen by the government and then adopted by the States and their school systems is considered propaganda and they the government and the States and the school systems are spreading lies and filth and hate.

          • Palin16

            Blah blah blah

    • John

      Only problem with your quote and it was a good one is that Teddy roosevelt was the first progressive in our country. Progressives are either democrat or republican.

      • TheOriginalDaveH

        Yay, somebody has been studying.

      • smilee

        Your right, congratulations, been a long time since we seen a progressive republican though, the last big one was Eisenhower.

        • TheOriginalDaveH

          Sleepee, that’s because you don’t understand what a Progressive is. They are people who use Big Government to implement their goals, whatever those goals might be — Liberal or NeoConservative or Socialist.

          • smilee

            If you think I do not understand it why not tell me why you think I do not. You have not convinced me you know.

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            I could care less, Sleepee. I wouldn’t waste my time trying to convince you of anything. My comments are for readers who have open-minds.
            http://mises.org/daily/364
            “Nor was Progressivism the domain of just one political party, as both Republicans and Democrats vied with each other to see who could more thoroughly expand the state. Republicans, led by Theodore Roosevelt and Sen. Robert LaFollette of Wisconsin, pushed for high tariffs, government ownership of natural resources, antitrust legislation, and imperialistic adventures abroad.
            Democrats, on the other hand, led by William Jennings Bryan and Woodrow Wilson, pushed the income tax, inflation through debasement of the money supply, and the internal protectionist device known as Jim Crow laws, which attempted to shield white workers from competition from blacks. Both parties favored expansion of voting rights to women. What is clear is that neither party had any intention of honoring the U.S. Constitution”.

          • smilee

            Admit it you just do not know, so you cop out like this.

          • http://www.rt.com Alondra

            The Progressives’ goal is very clear: POWER,
            unlawful THEFT and CONTROL thru stupid
            regulations & laws.

    • smilee

      Sammie, The spreader of Propaganda strikes again, spreading his lies and filth.

      • TheOriginalDaveH

        Sounds to me like you’re taunting Bob Livingston. Maybe it is time for him to remove your useless self from the board, Sleepee.

        • smilee

          Asking him relevant questions is taunting him??? Are you for real? Do you work for him?

  • Jeff Noncent

    when are we going to wake up America?

    • TheOriginalDaveH

      When our economy has totally collapsed.

      • Motov

        Even then they will believe when they use the Republicans as a scapegoat. The democrats have been successful in dodging their responsibility of today’s crises.

        • JeffH

          …and the same sheep that voted for them keep gathering their info from the MSM headlines and believing them…

      • NC

        Aboriginal, what is on the other side of your sign?? JESUS IS COMING,?????
        JUST ANOTHER MISGUIDED DOOM SAYER!!!

        • TheOriginalDaveH

          NutCase, it is you and your ilk who are doing the hoping and dreaming. I am just talking reality. It is unavoidable at this point unless the majority wakes up soon and hard. Unfortunately since, as you have pointed out, the majority are dumbed-down by Propaganda like yourself, it isn’t likely that we will escape the inevitable collapse.
          Ignorant Liberal Progressive Followers will be the first to suffer and they will suffer the most, as they will not have the necessary skills to be useful to themselves or anybody else.
          The Leaders will walk on the bodies of their former ignorant Followers.

      • Jeff Noncent

        you know! that is dangerous because if the United State of America collapsed do you know what’s going to be next? its going to be one world government that’s where we are headed my friend and guess who’s going to be in charge? I just want you to think on that! I am going to give you a clue and that is what the whole world is a mess its not just America its the whole world is a mess

        • TheOriginalDaveH

          No doubt, Jeff, but the collapse is nearly inevitable. It would take a sea-change of public awakening to prevent it, and even then the Leaders will be doing all that they can to thwart that awakening.

          • Jeff Noncent

            all I am saying is this once the United State of America give up there freedom, liberty, and became a communism nation the rest of the world will be in the same boat as the United State and welcome to a new world order, and its not getting better it getting worst as the day goes by

  • alboy5

    As long as we are forced to pay obmacare who needs food, healthcare, or enough money to see a movie once a year.

  • alboy5

    We still have money for the Afghan war. They will let us stay as long we dont kill anybody. Obama keeps that going because it is the major source of employment. Obamacare is for second class citizens, not Obama or his buddies.

  • 010sonny

    Winds of change, as natural as can be, is being demonstrated by our leadership state on politics, California.
    Oh how they emulated our nation with partisan paralysis and government dysfunction. A place where runaway deficits, gridlocked budgets and voter initiatives suppressed.
    Slashed by the power of their legislators. Circuses of recalls sprang up and climaxing with recalling a governor with but 10 months in his second term.
    Presently California has once again taken the lead of leadership.
    Celebrating with parades of bill signings that were never the norm before are becoming common place. Sharp difference from the National political agenda, that have so much difficulty in addressing any issue and finding a solution.
    California is now the acrimony of our national shameful dysfunctional congress. California has moved on school financing, immigrations, gun control, and abortions. California has moved on to new frontiers of political problems as they arise
    Striking a tone for fiscal issues and productivity moderation under a one party rule of the democrats. Only 3 years ago a republican governor held power. Presently the republicans have been dismissed to a point of irrelevance. House, Senate and Executive branches are now completely under democrat control.
    Sacramento is presently demonstrating the benefits of on party rule under democratic rule. Eliminating partisanship rule they have republicans now voting on immigration reforms ! Democrats voting for streamlining environmental regulations ! Something unheard of before, as stated by Jesse M. Unruh Institute of Politics at the University of Southern California. How you may ask?
    Nonpartisan commission drew the lines for districts voters representations. No longer under the biases of a calculating political party.
    Voters approved of removing stringent term limits on their representatives and senators. Increasing experienced lawmakers who are not always ruling with their eyes on the horizon for the next election cycle. Adding experienced politics with focused senators and representatives. … Results..
    Republican Anthony Cannella co-sponsored a bill with Democrat Governor Brown on permitting unauthorized immigrants to obtain drivers licenses. Stating that he is no longer stringently held to the republican base, as a result of the independent nonpartisan commission drawing the lines for district voters. “It’s given more courage to my Republican colleagues,” he said. “They were afraid of getting primaries. Now, it’s not just their base they have to appeal to.”
    Adam Mendelsohn a senior republican advisor championed the ballot changes.
    “It gives Republicans the chance to break from their caucus on certain issues,” he said. “It is very different than it was four or five years ago.”
    Democrats are also feeling the changes. J. Stephen Peace head of Independent Voters sites an example; “Look at the Chamber of Commerce job kills list — every measure on it was defeated except the increase in the minimum wage.”
    Kathy Feng executive director of Common Cause analysis ; “They have already started to create a more functional Legislature ” “In light of the shutdown on the federal level, what happened in California has provided even more of a contrast.”
    Sam Blakeslee {R} head of the California Reform Institute ; “We can already see that these reforms are improving the function of the Legislature and forcing people to come out of their partisan boxes and talk to the broader electorate,” “We’re seeing, almost against the odds, a more centrist Legislature, at least when it comes to jobs and budget issues.”
    Once again California has discovered the political leadership to eradicate us from the dysfunctional by partisan party ideology that plagues this nation. “As California goes, so does the nation”….
    Chamber of Commerce job kills list — every measure on it was defeated except the increase in the minimum wage.”
    Kathy Feng executive director of Common Cause analysis ; “They have already started to create a more functional Legislature ” “In light of the shutdown on the federal level, what happened in California has provided even more of a contrast.”
    Sam Blakeslee {R} head of the California Reform Institute ; “We can already see that these reforms are improving the function of the Legislature and forcing people to come out of their partisan boxes and talk to the broader electorate,” “We’re seeing, almost against the odds, a more centrist Legislature, at least when it comes to jobs and budget issues.”
    Once again California has discovered the political leadership to eradicate us from the dysfunctional by partisan party ideology that plagues this nation. “As California goes, so does the nation”….

    • frankenbiker

      Hell at 46% income tax, and $420 billion in debt, I can see where Ca. has turned the corner. Not to mention the 4 million people on food stamps. How is this a good example of how “progressivism” works?

      • http://batman-news.com samurai

        True that! True that! Keep up the good fight fellow patriot. No quarter! Isn’t it possible that Obama bin Laden just made it possible for the government to be shutdown? If so, why would he do it? Here is an article showing how Obama bin Laden manufactured the whole thing.

        http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/10/18/Actually-Obama-Manufactured-the-Crisis

        FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!

        You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot.

        “I understand that I live in a Christian nation. Without a vibrant and vital Christianity, America is doomed, and without America, the West is doomed. God help Jews if America ever becomes a post-Christian society! Just think of Europe!”

        Rabbi Daniel Lathan

      • http://batman-news.com samurai

        True that! True that! Keep up the good fight fellow patriot. No quarter! Isn’t it possible that Obama bin Laden just made it possible for the government to be shutdown? If so, why would he do it? Here is an article showing how Obama bin Laden manufactured the whole thing.

        http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/10/18/Actually-Obama-Manufactured-the-Crisis

        FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!

        You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot.

        “I understand that I live in a Christian nation. Without a vibrant and vital Christianity, America is doomed, and without America, the West is doomed. God help Jews if America ever becomes a post-Christian society! Just think of Europe!”

        Rabbi Daniel Lathan

        • frankenbiker

          Here’s a good question for you. Can you tell me how long the appropriations process is for any government spending? Months, sometimes years right? How then did they have the “Monument closed due to government shutdown signs”, overnight? They don’t just run down to kinkos, and order a couple hundred signs made up. A bill has to be introduced, then it’s debated, then it goes to committee, then the final amount to be spent is appropriated. This takes months, not overnight. So this entire shutdown was planned months ago.

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            This is very possible. I don’t doubt it. Keep up the good fight fellow patriot. No quarter! Here is an article about Nancy Pelosi and one of her “What differnce does it make…” speeches. Ooops! That sounds like Hitlery Clinton and Benghazi. I guess there really is no honor among thieves.

            http://www.redalertpolitics.com/2013/10/17/pelosi-demonstrates-irresponsible-lawmaking-what-difference-does-it-make-what-was-in-the-buget-deal/

            FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!

            You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot.

            “Reputation is what men and women think of us; character is what God and the angels know of us.”

            Thomas Paine

          • smilee

            Sammie, The spreader of Propaganda strikes again, spreading his lies and filth!…

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            Sea Kelp, Sleepee.

          • JeffH

            So says the “servant” stalker of samurai and one of the resident trolls.
            POLLY WANT A CRACKER? baaarrraaaccckkkkkk!

          • Palin16

            Wow, such tremendous talent! Smelly knows how to copy and paste.

          • Vigilant

            Is John Wilkes Booth some kind of hero to you?

          • Bob666

            Yo Vigilant,
            I love you’re sense of humor-don’t ever change!

          • frankenbiker

            Not particularly, just wanted to see how many people knew their history. I change my avatar from time to time to see if anyone comments on them. Its a laugh, try it sometime. I’ll change it again in a week or two. Stick around, see if you can figure out who my next avatar from history will be.

          • Vis Fac

            Planned because of the knowledge of what happened when ODUMBO “sequestered” the nation over his tax hike demands Again as with the budget ODUMBO proved he cares nothing for American only for HIS agenda. Americans are STUPID and don’t remember SQUAT. RINOS play ODUMBO’S game and “pretend” to play knowing they will fold like a cheap suit and capitulate. We live in a faux republic run by weasels and hyenas.

            The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter. Winston Churchill

            You don’t have to be a Marine to make a difference the only requirement is being truly patriotic and the willingness to back it up!!!

            Libertas inaestimabilis res est
            Semper-Fi

          • nc

            Frank, maybe it was “planned for” months ago because they had seen it threatened by the same crowd “months ago”

          • Jana

            Planned by Obama using his ‘discretionary funds’.

        • smilee

          Sammie, The spreader of Propaganda strikes again, spreading his lies and filth!.!

          • Vis Fac

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          • Frank Kahn

            If there are lies in his post, identify and refute them with facts.

          • smilee

            Rarely is there anything that is the truth Giving you any true, should any appear, would be an easily task and I will let you know if I ever find anything true.

          • Frank Kahn

            Again, I say, if there is a LIE, identify it and refute it with facts. Your opinion, that he is lying, is not a valid argument. Your refusal to identify the items you believe are lies, indicates that you are lying about his post.

          • smilee

            My answer was appropriate,even if it is not what you wanted, you do not get to put words in my mouth!

          • Frank Kahn

            smilee

            samurai

            8 hours ago

            Sammie, The spreader of Propaganda strikes again, spreading his lies and filth!.!

            Unless my computer screen is deceiving me, you said that samurai lied, and spread filth. Now, again, if you have a specific lie to rebut, please explain it.

          • Jana

            Appropriate? It didn’t even make sense!

          • smilee

            Of course, it was way beyond your ability to comprehend!!

          • Jana

            UH OH Frank. No wonder smilee keeps copying and pasting the same simple phrase over and over again. He can’t put a simple sentence together that makes any sense.
            Either that or he is on something. A lot of these older socialists are the hippies of yester year, and they smoked dope. That statement sure sounds like he has been smoking his dope.

          • Palin16

            Once there were two boys, Pete and Repeat. If Pete died, who was left? Repeat….Once there were two boys…….

        • Vis Fac

          For whatever we once were we are no longer a Christian Nation–Barack Hussein Obama

          The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter. Winston Churchill

          You don’t have to be a Marine to make a difference the only requirement is being truly patriotic and the willingness to back it up!!!

          Libertas inaestimabilis res est
          Semper-Fi

      • John

        But they are trying to achieve Detroit Status. I think they will get it with the likes of Pelosi and Feinstein. That is a state that has proven to be to stupid to get out of the way of a train.

      • Vis Fac

        Not to mention the PRCM is the mecca for illegals who sap any resources available. Free housing, health care, education, welfare, and food stamps, PLUS not having to participate in ODUMBOCARE ot pay taxes. Liberals are OK with this because they use illegals as a voting bloc even though they are ineligible to vote but what does that matter to a liberal? They get the votes.

        The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter. Winston Churchill

        You don’t have to be a Marine to make a difference the only requirement is being truly patriotic and the willingness to back it up!!!

        Libertas inaestimabilis res est
        Semper-Fi

    • http://batman-news.com samurai

      Long winded rant that is nothing more than argument to ridicule. Must be a libturd/progturd. I can smell the bacon. Here are some articles about the GOP, conservatives (not RINOS), and libturds.

      http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2013/10/14/why-the-shutdown-is-a-republican-victory/

      http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2013/10/17/conservatives_are_winning_on_policy

      FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!

      You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot.

      “The teachings of the Bible are so interwoven and entwined with our civic and social life that it would be impossible for us to figure what life would be if these teachings were removed.”

      Theodore Roosevelt
      26th President of the U.S.

      • smilee

        Sammie, The spreader of Propaganda strikes again, spreading his lies and filth!

        • Vis Fac

          SMELLY the perpetual COWARD and evader of answering questions pontificating when he has no room to talk. Stop embarrassing yourself and pipe down we all know you have ZERO credibility. Before you point fingers you best make sure YOUR hands are clean. You have the FILTHIEST hands I’ve ever seen

          Now answer my questions you COWARD

          I OWN YOU !!!

          The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter. Winston Churchill

          You don’t have to be a Marine to make a difference the only requirement is being truly patriotic and the willingness to back it up!!!

          Libertas inaestimabilis res est
          Semper-Fi

        • Jana

          smilee reminds me of the song children sing. Same song 50th verse rabbit ain’t got no tail at all, tail at all, tail at all, etc.

          Nothing new just his same ole same ole.

        • Palin16

          Once there were two boys, Pete and Repeat. If Pete died, who was left? Repeat….Once there were two boys….

          • smilee

            CUTE!

        • http://batman-news.com samurai

          Argument to ridicule. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
          You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot. This leaves you out traitor.

          • smilee

            Samurai, The spreader of Propaganda strikes again, spreading his lies

    • nc

      010 sonny, you left out a top ten economy in the world! A STATE with an economy bigger than hundreds of NATIONS ??? I guess those Democrats will never get it right!! I guess the Democrats in California just found that top ten economy on the side of the road in Mississippi! Ya think???

      • TheOriginalDaveH

        California has all the natural elements for a great economy. Sunny weather, port-side for easy world trade, fertile farm land, and ocean harvesting to name a few. Yet they currently suffer under a debt burden (as a percentage of their GDP) that is exceeded by only 10 other states. And a regulatory burden that is causing them to lose businesses faster than any other state:
        http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/07/07/California-s-Disappearing-Businesses

        • Vis Fac

          TODH You are misinformed It is no longer California it is now the PRCM People’s Republic of Commie/Mexico. Liberalism runs amok. Governor Moonbeam held the PRCM hostage threatening school closures UNLESS he got a TAX increase. Schools were to be funded by lottery profits enacted 20 years prior What happened? Well liberals being liberals and inept at anything economics raided the lottery money and GAVE it to the PEU public employee union pension funds along with other non essential expenditures (politicians pockets)

          The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter. Winston Churchill

          You don’t have to be a Marine to make a difference the only requirement is being truly patriotic and the willingness to back it up!!!

          Libertas inaestimabilis res est
          Semper-Fi

        • JeffH

          Unfortunately you are correct. California is wholly controlled by the progressive Democrats and fully backed and influenced by Hollywood, enviro-terrorists like the Humane Society(behind AB711 lead ammo ban)and public unions like the SEIU and the California Teachers Association.

        • KG

          Remember, it was California that birthed such conservatives as Ronald Reagan, Richard Nixon and Darrell Issa. How could a state the produced such great Republican leaders be in such trouble? It’s easy, if you think about it.

          The future of California was set by Governor Edmund Gerald “Pat” Brown, Sr. In 1959, California was in the cross hairs of a major change in population, economy, and social mores. The post war economic boom provided a general prosperity not seen any time in human history. Due to the major aerospace corporations located in California, the continued spending on cold war weapons pumped the California economy into the stratosphere literally and figuratively. And people all over the world converged into a giant surfer party.

          Realizing the tremendous need the population would require of their Government, Pat Brown launched an ambitious program of infrastructure not seen since Ancient Rome. And the people of California loved it. They loved it so much that they wanted it for free. So came Howard Jarvis and Proposition 13 which ended any hope of properly financing the tremendous amount of services that the people of California needed. For the conservatives, it became a mantra of ‘…if we don’t build it, they might not come.’ Unfortunately, they came anyway to a system sized for a population half it’s eventual size.

    • Frank Kahn

      Do the country a favor and leave or die.

      • Bob666

        Maybe you should do that frank?

  • 010sonny

    Capitalism is not so easily dismissed nor accused of failure. It requires strong regulations. Observe those that use Capitalism with intelligence. Sweden, Norway, Netherlands to name just a few. Here in the USA we have a glimmer of that may yet come to fruition.
    Winds of change, as natural as can be, is being demonstrated by our leadership state on politics, California.
    Oh how they emulated our nation with partisan paralysis and government dysfunction. A place where runaway deficits, gridlocked budgets and voter initiatives suppressed.
    Slashed by the power of their legislators. Circuses of recalls sprang up and climaxing with recalling a governor with but 10 months in his second term.
    Presently California has once again taken the lead of leadership.
    Celebrating with parades of bill signings that were never the norm before are becoming common place. Sharp difference from the National political agenda, that have so much difficulty in addressing any issue and finding a solution.
    California is now the acrimony of our national shameful dysfunctional congress. California has moved on school financing, immigrations, gun control, and abortions. California has moved on to new frontiers of political problems as they arise
    Striking a tone for fiscal issues and productivity moderation under a one party rule of the democrats. Only 3 years ago a republican governor held power. Presently the republicans have been dismissed to a point of irrelevance. House, Senate and Executive branches are now completely under democrat control.
    Sacramento is presently demonstrating the benefits of on party rule under democratic rule. Eliminating partisanship rule they have republicans now voting on immigration reforms ! Democrats voting for streamlining environmental regulations ! Something unheard of before, as stated by Jesse M. Unruh Institute of Politics at the University of Southern California. How you may ask?
    Nonpartisan commission drew the lines for districts voters representations. No longer under the biases of a calculating political party.
    Voters approved of removing stringent term limits on their representatives and senators. Increasing experienced lawmakers who are not always ruling with their eyes on the horizon for the next election cycle. Adding experienced politics with focused senators and representatives. … Results..
    Republican Anthony Cannella co-sponsored a bill with Democrat Governor Brown on permitting unauthorized immigrants to obtain drivers licenses. Stating that he is no longer stringently held to the republican base, as a result of the independent nonpartisan commission drawing the lines for district voters. “It’s given more courage to my Republican colleagues,” he said. “They were afraid of getting primaries. Now, it’s not just their base they have to appeal to.”
    Adam Mendelsohn a senior republican advisor championed the ballot changes.
    “It gives Republicans the chance to break from their caucus on certain issues,” he said. “It is very different than it was four or five years ago.”
    Democrats are also feeling the changes. J. Stephen Peace head of Independent Voters sites an example; “Look at the Chamber of Commerce job kills list — every measure on it was defeated except the increase in the minimum wage.”
    Kathy Feng executive director of Common Cause analysis ; “They have already started to create a more functional Legislature ” “In light of the shutdown on the federal level, what happened in California has provided even more of a contrast.”
    Sam Blakeslee {R} head of the California Reform Institute ; “We can already see that these reforms are improving the function of the Legislature and forcing people to come out of their partisan boxes and talk to the broader electorate,” “We’re seeing, almost against the odds, a more centrist Legislature, at least when it comes to jobs and budget issues.”
    Once again California has discovered the political leadership to eradicate us from the dysfunctional by partisan party ideology that plagues this nation. “As California goes, so does the nation”….
    Capitalism is not so easily dismissed nor accused of failure. It requires strong regulations. Observe those that use Capitalism with intelligence. Sweden, Norway, Netherlands to name just a few. Here in the USA we have a glimmer of that may yet come to fruition.
    Winds of change, as natural as can be, is being demonstrated by our leadership state on politics, California.
    Oh how they emulated our nation with partisan paralysis and government dysfunction. A place where runaway deficits, gridlocked budgets and voter initiatives suppressed.
    Slashed by the power of their legislators. Circuses of recalls sprang up and climaxing with recalling a governor with but 10 months in his second term.
    Presently California has once again taken the lead of leadership.
    Celebrating with parades of bill signings that were never the norm before are becoming common place. Sharp difference from the National political agenda, that have so much difficulty in addressing any issue and finding a solution.
    California is now the acrimony of our national shameful dysfunctional congress. California has moved on school financing, immigrations, gun control, and abortions. California has moved on to new frontiers of political problems as they arise
    Striking a tone for fiscal issues and productivity moderation under a one party rule of the democrats. Only 3 years ago a republican governor held power. Presently the republicans have been dismissed to a point of irrelevance. House, Senate and Executive branches are now completely under democrat control.
    Sacramento is presently demonstrating the benefits of on party rule under democratic rule. Eliminating partisanship rule they have republicans now voting on immigration reforms ! Democrats voting for streamlining environmental regulations ! Something unheard of before, as stated by Jesse M. Unruh Institute of Politics at the University of Southern California. How you may ask?
    Nonpartisan commission drew the lines for districts voters representations. No longer under the biases of a calculating political party.
    Voters approved of removing stringent term limits on their representatives and senators. Increasing experienced lawmakers who are not always ruling with their eyes on the horizon for the next election cycle. Adding experienced politics with focused senators and representatives. … Results..
    Republican Anthony Cannella co-sponsored a bill with Democrat Governor Brown on permitting unauthorized immigrants to obtain drivers licenses. Stating that he is no longer stringently held to the republican base, as a result of the independent nonpartisan commission drawing the lines for district voters. “It’s given more courage to my Republican colleagues,” he said. “They were afraid of getting primaries. Now, it’s not just their base they have to appeal to.”
    Adam Mendelsohn a senior republican advisor championed the ballot changes.
    “It gives Republicans the chance to break from their caucus on certain issues,” he said. “It is very different than it was four or five years ago.”
    Democrats are also feeling the changes. J. Stephen Peace head of Independent Voters sites an example; “Look at the Chamber of Commerce job kills list — every measure on it was defeated except the increase in the minimum wage.”
    Kathy Feng executive director of Common Cause analysis ; “They have already started to create a more functional Legislature ” “In light of the shutdown on the federal level, what happened in California has provided even more of a contrast.”
    Sam Blakeslee {R} head of the California Reform Institute ; “We can already see that these reforms are improving the function of the Legislature and forcing people to come out of their partisan boxes and talk to the broader electorate,” “We’re seeing, almost against the odds, a more centrist Legislature, at least when it comes to jobs and budget issues.”
    Once again California has discovered the political leadership to eradicate us from the dysfunctional by partisan party ideology that plagues this nation. “As California goes, so does the nation”….
    Kathy Feng executive director of Common Cause analysis ; “They have already started to create a more functional Legislature ” “In light of the shutdown on the federal level, what happened in California has provided even more of a contrast.”
    Sam Blakeslee {R} head of the California Reform Institute ; “We can already see that these reforms are improving the function of the Legislature and forcing people to come out of their partisan boxes and talk to the broader electorate,” “We’re seeing, almost against the odds, a more centrist Legislature, at least when it comes to jobs and budget issues.”
    Once again California has discovered the political leadership to eradicate us from the dysfunctional by partisan party ideology that plagues this nation. “As California goes, so does the nation”….

    • Average_Joe56

      What’s ahead for our nation ? How safe is your bank deposit?
      Are Big Banks safe? The truth about the FDIC
      A must watch……

      http://www.realecontv.com/videos/banking-malfeasance/are-big-banks-safe.html

      • Vis Fac

        AJ I have been warning people to pull their cash from the bank and trading it for “tangible” assets for some time. Remove anything you don’t want the bank to have that is in “their” not your safety deposit box. When the bank locks its doors whatever is inside belongs to the bank.

        I do not have credit cards mortgage or indentured assets. I keep an account only to purchase what I cannot barter for.

        The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter. Winston Churchill

        You don’t have to be a Marine to make a difference the only requirement is being truly patriotic and the willingness to back it up!!!

        Libertas inaestimabilis res est
        Semper-Fi

        • Average_Joe56

          I keep an account to pay certain bills. I make a deposit of just enough to pay those bills and then pay them the same day. Other than that, I keep my checking balance at $5 just to keep the account open. My valuables are kept safe…elsewhere.
          ;)

          • Vis Fac

            Another SMART man Good on you !!!

            Libertas inaestimabilis res est
            Semper-Fi

    • TheOriginalDaveH

      Sonny says — “Capitalism is not so easily dismissed nor accused of failure. It requires strong regulations”.
      Oh? Those who put in the study time will discover that the regulations aren’t meant to protect consumers. They are put on businesses by a monopoly Government either to stifle the competition of their Crony Capitalists, or to secure votes from an ignorant public. The consumer protection aspect is just the veneer that Politicians and Bureaucrats put on regulations to sell them to an ignorant public. There is absolutely nothing keeping the public from voluntarily joining consumer clubs or other similar organizations that will screen the products and offer advice. Then the consumers can freely choose which chances they take at what prices, unlike when regulations are put on by the monopoly Government, giving the consumers only that one predetermined choice.
      Here are just a few books that will give anybody interested a true view of what Government has always been and always will be, unless an educated public stops them from that:
      http://mises.org/books/conceived1.pdf
      http://mises.org/books/conceived1.pdf
      http://mises.org/books/conceived1.pdf
      http://mises.org/books/conceived1.pdf
      http://mises.org/books/whathasgovernmentdone.pdf
      http://mises.org/Books/historyofmoney.pdf
      http://www.amazon.com/The-Big-Ripoff-Business-Government/dp/0471789070/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1382193682&sr=8-1&keywords=the+big+ripoff
      Read this to understand better how much regulations cost our economy:
      http://www.scribd.com/doc/144210931/Wayne-Crews-Ten-Thousand-Commandments-An-Annual-Snapshot-of-the-Federal-Regulatory-State-2013

    • TheOriginalDaveH

      Sonny says — “Observe those that use Capitalism with intelligence. Sweden, Norway, Netherlands to name just a few. Here in the USA we have a glimmer of that may yet come to fruition”.
      Yes, do observe them, and keep in mind that the US already does have a large amount of stifling regulations:
      United States per capita GDP on a PPP basis = $50,700
      Norway per capita GDP on a PPP basis = $55,900
      Sweden per capita GDP on a PPP basis = $41,900
      Switzerland per capita GDP on a PPP basis = $46,200
      Note that Norway has bountiful petroleum resources that are buoying their economy, much like some of the otherwise poor countries in the MidEast. Also note that Switzerland is actually economically Freer than is the US.

      In general, comparing countries is mixing apples and oranges, because each has different environments, different cultures, and different heredities. But to get a feel for what Socialism does to countries, just look at the countries at the top of this ranking (least regulated) and those at the bottom (most regulated) and ask yourself which you would choose to live in:
      http://www.heritage.org/index/ranking

    • Vis Fac

      Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the
      gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery. Winston
      Churchill

      The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter. Winston Churchill

      You don’t have to be a Marine to make a difference the only requirement is being truly patriotic and the willingness to back it up!!!

      Libertas inaestimabilis res est
      Semper-Fi

      • Motov

        Margaret Thatcher once said that “The trouble with Socialism is that eventually you run out of other people’s money.”

        “My policies are based not on some economics theory, but on things I and millions like me were brought up with: an honest day’s work for an honest day’s pay; live within your means; put by a nest egg for a rainy day; pay your bills on time; support the police.”

        “I always cheer up immensely if an attack is particularly wounding because I think, well, if they attack one personally, it means they have not a single political argument left.”

        “I think we have gone through a period when too many children and people have been given to understand ‘I have a problem, it is the Government’s job to cope with it!’ or ‘I have a problem, I will go and get a grant to cope with it!’ ‘I am homeless, the Government must house me!’ and so they are casting their problems on society and who is society? There is no such thing! There are individual men and women and there are families and no government can do anything except through people and people look to themselves first… There is no such thing as society. There is living tapestry of men and women and people and the beauty of that tapestry and the quality of our lives will depend upon how much each of us is prepared to take responsibility for ourselves and each of us prepared to turn round and help by our own efforts those who are unfortunate.”

        “…The larger the slice taken by government, the smaller the cake available for everyone.”

        • Vis Fac

          I agree with you except for one point: I can no longer respect the POLICE. The police have become the arm of the government Usurping our rights Breaking down doors WITHOUT warrants or probable cause Harassing citizens without probable cause Invading ones home without permission to gain”tactical advantage” on your neighbor and if you refuse YOU are the one who’s arrested !!!

          How many innocent people have been gunned down by trigger happy police? How many unarmed cooperative people have been tased by thuggish cops?

          I have posted this a few times and find it prudent to do so again:

          The point of this isn’t to judge whether cops are justified in doing what they do. This article has nothing to do with police training. And this isn’t just about American cops. This is about the perception that we, the public, have of you when you perform the following actions. It doesn’t matter if you disagree with these perceptions, because right or wrong, they exist. The point of this posting is to simply let you know that we’re watching, and this is how we see things.

          1. When ten of you show up to make one arrest, it makes you look like cowards. On my way home from a bike ride, I saw three arrests being made in under an hour in a relatively safe part of the city. At one of the incidents, eight police cruisers responded to make one
          arrest. The guy who was arrested was ejected for being too drunk in a bar. Just one guy and he was drunk. He had a stupid moustache, hadn’t hurt anyone and was
          drunkenly walking home when he was tased and tackled by 3 cops before 6 police cruisers showed up in addition to the two that were there, for a total of 8
          cruisers and 10 cops. The man was unarmed.

          How much backup do you need? It’s one guy. If you can’t handle one drunk guy by yourself, you shouldn’t be a cop. Training tells you otherwise? Well stop
          being trained by sissies.

          2. When you tase somebody who IS NOT trying to escape, it makes you look like lazy cowards. A taser IS NOT a remote-control for people. Want to talk to someone? Then walk over to them and talk. Don’t tase
          them and expect them to cooperate. Also, when someone is being tased and is writhing in cardiac arrest on the ground, they aren’t “resisting arrest” by not getting on their knees and neatly kowtowing to your
          demands. They’re incapacitated. You look like idiots barking orders at them when they can’t move.

          Being a cop has certain risks associated with it. If you aren’t comfortable with those risks, don’t take the job. Always trying to minimize your risk of injury at the expense of others by being a taser-happy lunatic makes you look like lazy sissies.

          Tasing everyone you see because they might pose a risk to you is like spraying everything with a fire extinguisher so it doesn’t catch fire. Part of the problem might be that many cops are overweight and out of shape. If you fatsos can’t chase someone down, then you shouldn’t be cops. Studies have shown that not being a lardo is just as effective as using a taser.

          3. When you set up speed traps, it makes you look like you don’t have anything better to do. I get happy every time I see a speed trap, because I assume it means all
          the criminals have been locked up, you’ve caught the guys who broke into my car on three separate occasions and my stolen property will be returned shortly, right idiots? Good job guys, take a break and make some scratch for the city. Because why the hell else would you be sitting on your butt in a ditch if that wasn’t the case?

          People who speed are awesome. The last thing this world needs is more slow drivers. Traffic jams occur because of idiots braking prematurely. And when you pull people over, how about doing it in a place that doesn’t obstruct traffic? You know what’s just as “unsafe” as speeding? Having to swerve into another lane because your stupid car is blocking traffic.
          Every time I pass another cruiser parked in two lanes, backing up traffic for miles, it makes me literally punch myself in the jaw until I pass out.

          4. When you give out imbecilic tickets for rolling through stop-signs at 3 AM, or closing down lemonade
          stands, it makes us think you’re morons. We know that “the law is the law.” We also know that you’re not instruction-executing robotic automatons. When you harass us with nonsensical fees and fines, it makes us question your judgment. We know that this kind of trash is all about the money.

          Remember that case in Florida where a pair of LEOs closed down a lemonade stand operated by a 6 and 9 year old girls, because they didn’t have a permit?

          The legal age for entering into contract in the United States is 18. So that effort to charge them fees by making them apply for a permit? Illegal. Law is the law, right? Arrest yourselves. And speaking of nepotism…

          5. We know you guys use the buddy system to get out of speeding tickets. And it infuriates us to no end. Cops have a code that basically amounts to always letting fellow cops go. When a cop pulls over an off-duty officer, the officer who was pulled over discreetly flashes his badge to let him know that he’s on the force, and he’s simply let go. You think we don’t know what’s going on, jerk-wads? It’s a courtesy not extended to anyone else, lest the officer is having a particularly
          good day and isn’t PMS-ing all over the highway.

          Sometimes you write tickets for going1Mile over the speed limit, sometimes it’s 10 Miles. Then when you get called on doing something stupid like writing a
          ticket to someone for a law that shouldn’t be enforced and rarely is (like jay-walking in New York), you hide behind your tired mantra that it’s the law and that you
          have to be consistent. Except when you aren’t.

          6. When you flash your lights just to get through intersections, you look like scumbags. I’ve followed cops who’ve done this, only to see them park their cruisers for coffee or lunch. And speaking of lunch…

          7. When you park in a red zone to eat, it makes you look like lazy scumbags. The argument can be made that police officers need to be near their cruisers
          at all times in case of an emergency. Fine, but that doesn’t entitle you to eat at the most popular restaurants. If you want to eat at some trendy restaurant, park at a meter and pay, like everyone else. Can’t find a meter? Tough luck, go someplace else. Doctors, surgeons, rescue workers and security all have important jobs where people’s lives are at stake, and you don’t see their cars popped up on the curb, obstructing traffic and parked illegally so they can
          fill their fat faces with lunch. We know you’ll never get written a ticket (see #5), it infuriates us, and it makes us trust you less, and cooperate less. Now this is the part where I say “I know that police officers have a tough job,” but they don’t. Being a cop isn’t hard, it’s dangerous. There’s a difference. Being an engineer, teacher or airline pilot is hard. Being a logger, deep sea crab fisherman, coal miner or firefighter is hard and dangerous. Being a cop is dangerous, but usually not
          hard. Driving around, issuing moronic tickets and filling out paperwork isn’t hard, it’s annoying.

          This is also the part where I say “now I know that most cops are good,” but I don’t. I only know two cops in real life, and they’re both awesome, but so is anyone I choose to call my friend. Most cops I see abuse their power every day by parking illegally, talking on their cell phones while driving, drifting in and out of lanes without turn signals, flashing their lights to get out of intersections and power tripping like crazy. If you’re a cop who’s reading this, rather than being butt-hurt by people’s perceptions of you, do something to change it. Write a fellow officer a ticket. Stick your neck out for us,
          rather than your colleague for a change. Do the right thing. We notice.

          And as for us: record cops. Record them all the time. Record them even if they’re not doing anything. Cops are cracking down on this and they’re trying to change the laws to make it illegal so they can’t be held accountable for breaking the law. They look up your plates every time they’re behind you at a stop, even if you haven’t done anything, just to check up on you. It’s time we started checking up on them. Who watches the watchers, if you will.

          The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter. Winston Churchill

          You don’t have to be a Marine to make a difference the only requirement is being truly patriotic and the willingness to back it up!!!

          Libertas inaestimabilis res est
          Semper-Fi

          • Motov

            First off, all of these were just quotes from Margaret Thatcher, secondly, I believe the less about me the cops know, the better! I am aware of power tripping cops and even personally dealt with them. There are a few cops out there that are “cool” meaning they believe in the Constitution, Although few and far between, most cops I see these days are bullies hiding behind a badge, So I tend to agree with you.

          • Vis Fac

            I know a few cops personally all through high school these guys wanted to be cops to bust heads and control people.

            Given the personality traits of these “people” and their penchant for violence I think it prudent that better screening techniques be employed on all law enforcement candidates.

            Again with the political climate as it is we are witnessing more and more militarization of our police. They are able to detain, search, and assault with impunity without fear of having to face charges. Something is definitely WRONG !!!!!

            The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter.

            You don’t have to be a Marine to make a difference the only requirement is being truly patriotic and the willingness to back it up!!!

            Libertas inaestimabilis res est
            Semper-Fi

          • Motov

            True story.
            I was once pulled over by a young cop.
            He said he smelled beer on my breath, which was a lie.
            I was carrying empty cans to the recycle center. Anyways, After I blew a goose egg on his breathalizer, he wanted me to perform sobriety tests.
            I told him I wasn’t able to do what he wanted because of my parkinsons, I had a mild form of dyskinesia (meaning I was moving around involuntary so walking a straight line or standing on one foot was impossible for me to do)
            I asked the cop if my speech was impaired, (which it wasn’t) He insisted that I perform those tests.
            Then another cop showed up at the scene, (I think It was his supervisor) I told the second cop I had parkinson’s disease,
            He then told me to get back into my truck, and wished me a good day. I was free to go!
            Like I said, there are a few out there that are not on a power trip.

            I hope that young cop learned a lesson.

          • Vis Fac

            You were extremely lucks and I’d wager a royalty check the young cop learned nothing.

            You don’t have to be a Marine to make a difference the only requirement is being truly patriotic and the willingness to back it up!!!

            Libertas inaestimabilis res est
            Semper-Fi

      • nc

        FORCE, I am a Marine who has taken an oath on four different occasions to protect and defend my Constitution and my country! I spent 35 years on a job that required me to honor that oath and not once was my effort ever called into question! I believe myself to be as patriotic to this wonderful country as your or anyone else here and have been interested and have been involved in the political process since high school with the Democrat Party! I treasure the contributions of the leaders of my party to what this nation is today! Not perfect but way the hell in front of what ever nation is in second place!!!
        I am a liberal because there is nothing more precious than a small child with a full belly! My grandchildren or any grandchildren!
        Semper Fi

        • Vis Fac

          You almost had me until you said “I am a liberal because there is nothing more precious than a small child with a full belly! My grandchildren or any grandchildren”
          YOU are a HYPOCRITE you support a organization with a tenet that not only sanctions/endorses but encourages the murder of millions of would be children and grandchildren through Planned Parenthood ABORTIONS.
          You are nothing more than a pandering fool who is NOT a patriot you are a user If you support an organization who wishes to indenture/enslave your children and grandchildren with massive burden of debt you are not as benevolent as you wish to think you are.
          And you say you care about children I say BS you only care for yourself.. Liberals never support anything other than what they want or is not means to an end to achieve their agenda You are Truly a NUT CASE
          “Go tell it to the Real Marines not some faux Marine like you !!!

          The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter.

          You don’t have to be a Marine to make a difference the only requirement is being truly patriotic and the willingness to back it up!!!

          Libertas inaestimabilis res est
          Semper-Fi

    • Frank Kahn

      Nice posting of political satire. If the nation goes as california, then it is time to start killing liberals before we all die of democratic despotism.

    • rick0857

      And after all that horse hockey you’re still losing businesses faster than you can replace them. Taxes are so high that no one can pay them and all of you fruit cake idiots from Kalifornia who screwed the pooch out there are moving to new places to screw up, because you can’t afford to live in Kalifornia anymore. You Left coasters are just like obama you run around with a freaking torch in your hand and when everything in your path has burned to the ground you consider your work to be done!

      Just how much DEBT IS KALIFORNIA CARRYING THESE DAYS AND JUST WHAT ARE IT’S UNFUNDED OBLIGATIONS?

  • Warrior

    Want to keep up with the spending! Uh, uh, “it’s irresponsible,,uh, uh, it’s unpatriotic!

    http://www.usdebtclock.org/

  • Warrior

    Want to keep up with the spending! Uh, uh, “it’s irresponsible,,uh, uh, it’s unpatriotic!

    http://www.usdebtclock.org/

  • 010sonny

    The Myth of America.
    Nixon to Bush 2008 and all republicans in between have advocated support to policies that serve to increase inequality within our financial institutions. Results are not supportive for a nation that had one time been the leader of the free world. America the land of opportunity has faded into the realms of Myths. Inequality has grown. Emulating similar depths of financial inequality to the Great Depression’s. Republicans maintain and advocate redundant failed ideologies. From the least of them to the greatest, all promote in one measure or another, to increase our inequality. Sweden’s , for one example has already demonstrated their success in stabilizing their inequality problems. USA continues to increase inequality and their affects are divesting to our democracy’s security.
    Observe our Health Care and how long it has been suppressed by republicans as they continue to do so. Children in poverty in the USA have reached third world standards. Lack of health and escalating poverty, compounds a higher probability for collapse, ruin of our nation. How do we measure up through the eyes of the World Bank?
    World Bank merits may not be acceptable to the some but I‘ll take their word over callow comments, any day… Never the less, you can take this to the Bank.
    Health Care policies has been evaluated by the “World Bank” No doubt to determine our risk factors.
    Medicaid programs have been scaled back. {“Poison Pill”} as one example. Increasing our losses to health issues. “Especially among the elderly and the impoverished. Life expectancy in the USA is 78 years, lower than Japan’s 83 years or Australia’s or Israel’s 82 years…. 2009 “World Bank” USA ranked fortieth overall, just below Cuba.
    Infant and maternal mortality rate in USA is greater than Cuba, Belarus, Malaysia, to name a few. Impoverished USA civilians have a 10% lower life expectancy than those at the top.
    1st in overall health care expenditure and
    2nd in total health expenditure as % of GDP…but
    37TH in the WHO ranking of the world’s health system performance…and
    72nd in overall level of health!
    44th of 224 countries in Infant mortality
    121st of 223 countries in overall death rate
    50th of 224 countries in life expectancy
    Sources include the CIA Fact Book, the World Health Organization, and the United Health FoundationIndicates its time for a cool, cool change in our Health Care systems.
    OBAMACARE
    http://neweconomy.net/content/wealth-inequality-america video chart USA wealth Distributions. Its all about laborer’s productivity distributions. http://neweconomy.net/content/wealth-inequality-america video chart USA wealth Distributions. Its all about laborer’s productivity distributions.

    • Vis Fac

      Please tell me why if these failed republican economic policies were so bad then why was America’s economy robust and jobs were plentiful? Why is it that when A DUMBOCRITE holds office we see a dramatic spike in taxes lower GDP and the mass exodus of jobs being outsourced overseas? Of course DUMBOCRITIC taxing regulations and overspending have nothing to do with it now do they?

      The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter. Winston Churchill

      You don’t have to be a Marine to make a difference the only requirement is being truly patriotic and the willingness to back it up!!!

      Libertas inaestimabilis res est
      Semper-Fi

      • nc

        Force, were you awake during the Clinton administration? Have you ever looked at the economic numbers when Clinton took over from bush I and what they were when he handed them over to bushII and what they were when bush II handed them off to Obama????? After bushII had trashed Clinton policy for his rich man tax cut fiscal policy that fell on it’s butt from 2002 to 2009????!
        How did you miss all of that?? 69 million Americans who voted Democrat in 2009 certainly hadn’t missed it!

        • Average_Joe56

          Who’s better at running Congress?

          Since it’s Congress that sets the spending Budgets, sets the Deficits, and passes legislation affecting jobs and the economy (The President cannot spend one penny that has not been authorized by Congress), let’s look at the record of Congresses over the last 30 years (Through 2010);

          JOBS (39,761,000 Net New Jobs)

          Jobs created when Democrats controlled Congress (12 years) = 8,100,000 net new jobs.

          Jobs created when Republicans controlled Congress (10 years) = 21,773,000 net new jobs.

          Jobs created when Congress was split (8 years) = 9,888,000 net new jobs.

          DEFICITS (a) ($7.304 Trillion)

          Total Deficits when Democrats controlled Congress (12 years) = $5.022 Trillion.

          Total Deficits when Republicans controlled Congress (10 years) = $1.219 Trillion.

          Total Deficits when Congress was split (8 years) = $1.063 Trillion.

          NATIONAL DEBT ($12.878 Trillion = 93.4% of all the Debt in our History)

          Total New Debt when Democrats controlled Congress (12 years) = $7.859 Trillion.

          Total New Debt when Republicans controlled Congress (10 years) = $3.238 Trillion.

          Total New Debt when Congress was split (8 years) = $1.781 Trillion.

          ECONOMIC GROWTH ($11.873 Trillion of GDP growth)

          Total Growth (GDP) when Democrats controlled Congress (12 years) = $3.887 Trillion.

          Total Growth (GDP) when Republicans controlled Congress (10 years) = $5.623 Trillion.

          Total Growth (GDP) when Congress was split (8 years) = $2.363 Trillion.

          Draw your own conclusions, but these are undisputed facts from government sources.

          (a) Deficits do not equal the increase in the Debt because of the government’s ‘funny accounting’.

          Sources – Democrats controlled Congress from 1987 – 1994, and from 2007 – 2010. Republicans controlled Congress from 1995 – 2000, and from 2003 – 2006. There was a split Congress from 1980 – 1986 and for 2001 & 2002. Links to government data sites are as follows;

          Jobs – http://www.bls.gov/cps/cpsaat1.pdf

          Deficits – http://www.whitehouse.gov/omb/budget/Historicals See Table 1.1

          National Debt – http://www.treasurydirect.gov/NP/BPDLogin?application=np

          You were saying?……………….
          Let’s not forget that the Democratically controlled senate haven’t passed a budget in 5 years…you know, the thing that they are mandated to do by the Constitution……

          • rick0857

            You sure to came to class prepared good job and way to slap them in the face with it! And they say the democrats are the working mans party HA!
            Also they haven’t passed a budget because they don’t want America to SEE WHAT THEY HAVE PLANNED.

        • Vis Fac

          Yeah Clinton rode the momentum built by Reagan and Bush It during Clinton’s second term when the lights started to flicker I suppose you haven’t a clue as to Clinton’s Legacy which caused the financial melt down on 2007

          If you are in your 50s or older, you will recall the early 1980s when interest rates shot through the roof. We can look back on it and know that Clinton was responsible through his mandating that HUD Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac grant “federally insured” loans to people who could not qualify for conventional financing. Slick Willies mandate did more to ruin the economy than you can imagine. People were now able to be granted loans with “creative financing” AKA variable rates. Consider what happened to the 30-year mortgage rate. It stood at 10 percent during the last year of the Carter Administration. Because the Fed squeezed the excesses from our economy, the 30-year mortgage rate reached 18.5 percent
          Since the government was insuring these loans mortgages were offered at 100% of market value with no down payment a LIBERALS paradise no out of pocket money and a mortgage to boot. Some even leveraged loans for more than market value so they could put a little cash in their pocket.
          Well now we have “government” in the lending business real estate values soared houses sold Big investors wanted in on the action Lehman Brothers Meryl Lynch all those Wall Street Hawks. lending money under the “Federal Guarantee”
          When the interest rate reached 18% those with creative financing were unable to meet their mortgages and subsequently began defaulting on their mortgages cascading into what we saw in 2007 complete melt down and hence the BAILOUTS
          This is Bill Clinton’s Legacy and what he did to “SAVE AMERICA”

          The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter. Winston Churchill

          You don’t have to be a Marine to make a difference the only requirement is being truly patriotic and the willingness to back it up!!!

          Libertas inaestimabilis res est
          Semper-Fi

    • Frank Kahn

      wrong, it is just as much democratic policy as it is republican policy that kills our economy. And your take on poverty here is pure hogwash. Our poor, in this country, are looked at as fortunate rich people to the true poor of the world.

      • 010sonny

        Simply to deny does not give value to you reply. Poverty is growing. At present it is at 15% of our population. Having a TV or living within site of affluent neighbors does not feed them or educate them. Their hunger and deaths due to their poverty is what is real to them. Ignoring their plight and what is contributing to this increasing poverty is what is real to our society and our humanities. Your denial of its existence is merely your desire to remain in a delusional world. There are others who have faced the problem and have set an example for nations that are still without a solution, such as the USA.
        Here is one of many, Sweden is doing just fine. As a matter of fact better than the USA for over a decade… Example average earner in Sweden of $50,000/yr and USA average earner of $50’000/yr. The Sweden has his Universal Education, Health paid for. USA earner has not.
        C The Gini Coefficient
        Gini is a measurement that is used to identify, mathematically, the inequality of individual nations. A rating of one {1} is considered perfect inequality, as a rating of zero {0} is perfect equality.
        Nations such as Germany, Norway and Sweden have a Gini of .3 or less.
        South Africa and Latin America have a .5 or above.
        USA’s Gini in 1980 was .4 Presently it is at 4.77. This is according to the U.N.’s data. Rendering the USA in the category of nations such as Iran and Turkey.
        USA’s inequality may be even worse than what the Gini indicates. In the advanced industrial nations, such as may be found in Europe and Scandinavian, their citizens have Universal Education, Universal Health Care from birth to death and large safety nets for securing the laborer’s income security. Where in as the USA, middle class on down have none of these benefits or a small fraction there of. Increasing the insecurity of their citizens in their jobs, homes, education and health.
        Insecurity is manifested and fueled by the inequality factor. Greater the inequality the greater is the demise of that nation’s ability to survive in competition with an advanced industrial opponent. Insecurity will manifest emotional dysfunctional laborers quick to rebel. Productivity decreases.
        Simply look around to the various nations and observe. Observe those that had a less or no recessions say during 2000 and 2013 that would be a good indicator they are doing something better than US.
        http://neweconomy.net/content/wealth-inequality-america video chart USA wealth Distributions.
        Note with ever increasing inequality to the distributions of laborer’s productivity, poverty increases. That’s a blue clue… LOLhttp://neweconomy.net/content/wealth-inequality-america video chart USA wealth Distributions.
        Note with ever increasing inequality to the distributions of laborer’s productivity, poverty increases. That’s a blue clue… LOL

        • Frank Kahn

          Spoken like a truly ignorant liberal union hack.

          “Simply to deny does not give value to you reply. Poverty is growing. At present it is at 15% of our population.”

          Calling something poverty does not mean it is true poverty either. The amount a U.S. citizen can get for food stamps each month, $200, is a fortune to truly impoverished people. I can eat, quite well, on less than $80. I, personally, know people in other countries that would consider $80 a fortune. The dollar amount, set by the federal government, for the poverty level is outrageously high.

          “Having a TV or living within site of affluent neighbors does not feed them or educate them. ”

          Feeding our poor is not a problem, the SNAP program doles out an outrageous stipend for food. My niece receives almost $800 a month for her and 4 kids. They can eat better than many lower income families. Our nation has free public schools. In many impoverished countries they pay an annual tuition, and have to pay for their exams and school projects. Having the money to buy a tv is a luxury, not something someone suffering poverty can afford.

          “Their hunger and deaths due to their poverty is what is real to them. Ignoring their plight and what is contributing to this increasing poverty is what is real to our society and our humanities. ”

          Please site some examples of massive, poverty related, deaths in this country. And, show incidents of hunger, of our poor, that is not a result of the adults misuse of food entitlements.

          “Your denial of its existence is merely your desire to remain in a delusional world. ”

          NO, the liberal, feel good, mantra that we owe something to others just because they want it is your delusion. I have never encountered true poverty anywhere in this country, which I have traveled extensively.

          “There are others who have faced the problem and have set an example for nations that are still without a solution, such as the USA.”

          We know the solution, but the liberals won’t allow us to take the necessary steps to combat the problem of the poor in this nation.

          “Here is one of many, Sweden is doing just fine. As a matter of fact better than the USA for over a decade… Example average earner in Sweden of $50,000/yr and USA av erage earner of $50’000/yr. The Sweden has his Universal Education, Health paid for. USA earner has not.”

          K-12 is universally paid for in this country, every citizen is entitled to it and can take advantage of this free education. Socialized medicine has failed to prove sustainable in every country that has implemented it. If we want true AFFORDABLE HEALTH CARE we need to get government, and big business, out of manipulation of the market.

          “C The Gini Coefficient
          Gini is a measurement that is used to identify, mathematically, the inequality of individual nations. A rating of one {1} is considered perfect inequality, as a rating of zero {0} is perfect equality.”

          Yes, and the Gini coefficient will give a rating of 0 to a nation of all people that live in poverty. It will also give a 0 to a nation of all billionaires. It is not a good indication of anything other than wealth distribution, within a country.

          “Nations such as Germany, Norway and Sweden have a Gini of .3 or less.
          South Africa and Latin America have a .5 or above.
          USA’s Gini in 1980 was .4 Presently it is at 4.77. This is according to the U.N.’s data. Rendering the USA in the category of nations such as Iran and Turkey.
          USA’s inequality may be even worse than what the Gini indicates. In the advanced industrial nations, such as may be found in Europe and Scandinavian, their citizens have Universal Education, Universal Health Care from birth to death and large safety nets for securing the laborer’s income security. ”

          We pay more, a higher percentage of GDP, in safety net money than any other nation in the world.

          “Where in as the USA, middle class on down have none of these benefits or a small fraction there of. Increasing the insecurity of their citizens in their jobs, homes, education and health.”

          Ah, a nice liberal ideological talking point. The liberals are insecure about the wealth distribution, and want everyone to be equal in wealth. This means that everyone must conform to an exact value regardless of their worth as a contributing asset to society. As long as you keep telling the masses that they are victims of the greedy rich, they will feel insecure in their homes and health.

          “Insecurity is manifested and fueled by the inequality factor. Greater the inequality the greater is the demise of that nation’s ability to survive in competition with an advanced industrial opponent. ”

          Really? So, as you assert, our nation has never been competitive in the international community? Our country creates rich people. We create more wealth than any other nation in the world. We have done this by way of the capitalistic economy that we embrace. Without capitalism, our country will descend into poverty the same way Russia did.

          “Insecurity will manifest emotional dysfunctional laborers quick to rebel. Productivity decreases.”

          Wrong, it is liberal hyperbole that causes the emotional dysfunctional behavior, not insecurity from wealth disparity.

          “Simply look around to the various nations and observe. Observe those that had a less or no recessions say during 2000 and 2013 that would be a good indicator they are doing something better than US.”

          Yes, so I task you with locating and proving which countries, with a lower Gini score than us, that did not suffer some form of recession recently.

          “http://neweconomy.net/content/… video chart USA wealth Distributions.
          Note with ever increasing inequality to the distributions of laborer’s productivity, poverty increases. That’s a blue clue… LOLhttp://neweconomy.net/conte… video chart USA wealth Distributions.
          Note with ever increasing inequality to the distributions of laborer’s productivity, poverty increases. That’s a blue clue… LOL”

          As a liberal I am sure you will not even entertain the true cause and effects. It is true that wealth distribution from the poor to the wealthy causes more poverty. However, the cause of this transfer of wealth is where you make the error. Raising the tax base, to redistribute money from the wealthy to the poor is backwards. It usually only creates a greater burden on the middle class, not the rich. So the liberal attempt to raise the poor out of poverty is actually driving more middle class closer to being poor.

          Statistically, history shows that the more we pay to raise the poor up, the more that are getting poor. Since the start of the war on poverty, by giving them money, we have seen an exponential increase in the number of poor in this country. That means that the entitlement program is creating poor not eliminating them.

          I am not ignoring the plight of the poor in this nation. I simply object to the hyperbolic term of poverty used to describe people that are nowhere near a state of poverty.

    • rick0857

      And I’m sure I could find some nut bag somewhere to prove that unicorns still roam the Earth. So what of your BS explain the LARGEST IN HISTORY GAP BETWEEN RICH AND POOR UNDER MAOBAMA? There has been a faster even more wide gap since your lord and master took office than at any time in our history. With barry and his boys dumping 85 BILLION EVERY MONTH INTO THE STOCK MARKETS TO KEEP THEM ARTIFICIALLY HIGH. THE CRASH IS COMING, IT’S PISSED AND IT WANTS IT’S MONEY BACK!

  • Bob666

    Dem poll: Shutdown could hurt GOP in Senate races

    A new batch of Democratic polling suggests that Republicans are vulnerable to attacks over the shutdown in competitive Senate contests.

    Public Policy Polling, a Democratic firm, surveyed six states on Monday and Tuesday for Americans United for Change, a liberal interest group.

    A majority of voters in all of them opposed shutting down the government to try to defund Obamacare.

    “These polls make it clear that across the country, whether a state voted for Obama by 10 points or voted for Romney by 20, voters are extremely angry about the government shutdown,” said pollster Tom Jensen. “And it’s going to make Republican hopes of taking back the Senate next year that much harder.”

    It is probably too soon to predict how the shutdown will impact the midterm elections a little over a year from now. But initial numbers suggest more challenges for GOP candidates identified with the showdown than Democrats.

    In Georgia, voters opposed the shutdown nearly two to one, 61 percent to 31 percent. Democrat Michelle Nunn ties a generic Republican at 42 percent. After being told “her most likely opponents for next year supported the government shutdown,” Nunn opens a six-point lead over a generic Republican.

    In Louisiana, Sen. Mary Landrieu (D) leads Rep. Bill Cassidy (R) by 7 points, 48 percent to 41 percent, for reelection. Almost half, 47 percent, said they are less likely to vote for Cassidy because of the shutdown, compared to 32 percent who said they are more likely.

    In Arkansas, Sen. Mark Pryor (D) leads Rep. Tom Cotton (R) by three, 44 percent to 41 percent, which is within the margin of error. Told that Cotton supported a shutdown, 45 percent said they are less likely to vote for him and 33 percent said they are more likely to.

    In two states with open Senate seats, it is the Democratic contender that is in Washington and the Republican who is an outsider. But the automated polling still gives Democrats the edge.

    In Michigan, Rep. Gary Peters (D) leads former Secretary of State Terri Lynn Land by 7 points, 43 percent to 36 percent. Two-thirds of voters said they oppose shutting down the government to get rid of the health care law. And Peters’ lead grew to 14 points when voters were told Peters fought against the shutdown.

    In Iowa, Rep. Bruce Braley leads a generic Republican by 4 points, which is also the margin for error. Two-thirds said they opposed the shutdown, and Braley’s lead expand to 7 percent when respondents were told he opposed the shutdown.

    In North Carolina, none of Democratic Sen. Kay Hagan’s potential opponents are of Washington. She leads an unnamed Republican by 5 points, 47 percent to 42 percent. Interestingly, slightly more said Hagan’s opposition to the shutdown makes them less likely to vote for her (37 percent) than more likely (35 percent). A quarter of voters said it makes no difference.

    Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2013/10/government-shutdown-senate-races-democratic-poll-98401.html#ixzz2iB5wZHhQ
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    • Frank Kahn

      And the majority of the people want obamacare terminated… Since it was the democrats, and Obama that pushed Obamacare down our throats, and shut down the government to force its funding, that makes two strikes against democratic hopefuls in the midterm.

    • Frank Kahn

      And the majority of the people want obamacare terminated… Since it was the democrats, and Obama that pushed Obamacare down our throats, and shut down the government to force its funding, that makes two strikes against democratic hopefuls in the midterm.

      • Jana

        Now we also find that people like Roslyn Wells and Miranda who is an Obama agitator and probably those who used to work for ACORN (my thoughts, no proof) are the ones working signing up people for Obamacare. They are privy to people’s SS numbers and sensitive information.
        Wow no need to worry abut identity theft. We can all feel so cozy and safe now knowing whose hands we are in.

        • http://batman-news.com samurai

          Keep up the good fight fellow patriot. No quarter! Here is an article that may deal with what you are talking about.

          http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/10/18/report-raise-concern-about-backgrounds-obamacare-navigators/

          FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!

          You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot.

          “The United States in Congress assembled… recommend this edition of the Bible to the inhabitants of the United States…a neat edition of the Holy Scriptures for the use of schools.”

          United States Congress 1782

    • rick0857

      WTF do you just cite polls can’t you defend your position without a poll? I already told you only stupid people waste their time on answering questions for pollsters! If I wanted to hear an a$$hole talk I’d fart!

      • Bob666

        I’m so sorry Rick,
        I forgot the world evolves around you. By the way, if you do break wind, it would probably have far more substance and intellectual appeal than your post.

        I’m rooten for ya buddy!

      • WTS/JAY

        Bob seems bound and determined to win the “arsehole of the year” award!

        • rick0857

          For a fourth consecutive year too!

          • Bob666

            Wow Rick-did you break wind yet?

  • Tom

    Last time we had a mild mannered college professor as President we got the Federal Reserve and Taxes, and WWI .

    • Vis Fac

      Yeah A DUMBOCRITE the 28th president Woodrow Wilson

      The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter. Winston Churchill

      You don’t have to be a Marine to make a difference the only requirement is being truly patriotic and the willingness to back it up!!!

      Libertas inaestimabilis res est
      Semper-Fi

    • organicroseski2

      He was a adjunct professor and they are part-time without having full or permanent status. I know they called him a professor; but, our adjuncts were a Mr. or Mrs., without a private office.

      • Vis Fac

        ODUMBO at the University of Chicago????

        The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter. Winston Churchill

        You don’t have to be a Marine to make a difference the only requirement is being truly patriotic and the willingness to back it up!!!

        Libertas inaestimabilis res est
        Semper-Fi

    • rick0857

      And direct election of Senators by the people usurping that power from the States.

      • Jana

        Which was a huge mistake.

  • Bob666

    78% Want To Throw Out Entire Congress and Start Over

    If the next congressional election were held today, it would be bad news for the current members of Congress from both major parties.

    Just eight percent (8%) of Likely U.S. Voters would vote to keep the entire current Congress. The latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey finds that 78% would vote instead to get rid of the entire Congress and start over again. That’s a 10-point jump from the previous high of 68% in May of last year. Fourteen percent (14%) are undecided.

    http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/general_politics/october_2013/78_want_to_throw_out_entire_congress_and_start_over

    For those who can’t deal with reality, vote here.

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    • organicroseski2

      They will keep their own. It was funny (sadly), a man on the street in D.C. asked if this was Bush’s or Obama’s fault. Only two said it was Obama’s. Even one said it was the governments fault, not Obama’s. Sorry, Bob666, I think “stupid” is spreading which is worrisome; because, they vote.

  • Bob666

    Partisan Politics

    Voters Don’t See Much Bipartisanship in Washington, D.C.

    As far as voters are concerned, neither side in Washington, D.C. is much interested in bipartisanship, but Republicans in Congress are the most partisan.

    Only 21% of Likely U.S. Voters think Republicans are acting on a bipartisan basis these days, according to a new Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey. Sixty-one percent (61%) believe they are acting like partisan Republicans. (To see survey question wording, click here.)

    (Want a free daily e-mail update? If it’s in the news, it’s in our polls). Rasmussen Reports updates are also available on Twitter or Facebook.

    The national survey of 1,000 Likely Voters was conducted on October 14-15, 2013 by Rasmussen Reports. The margin of sampling error is +/- 3 percentage points with a 95% level of confidence. Field work for all Rasmussen Reports surveys is conducted by Pulse Opinion Research, LLC.

    http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/mood_of_america/partisan_politics

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    • TheOriginalDaveH

      The League Owners (for example NFL) love it when you chant mindlessly for one of their franchises. As long as they have your ticket money, they don’t care whether you vote for one franchise or the other as long as that franchise is one of theirs.
      That is how it is for the Crony Capitalists. They don’t care if you vote Democrat or Republican. Their Power and Perks still grow either way. The majority of Democrat and Republican Politicians are essentially a Progressive tag team which is opposing the citizens. Both of them have their Crony Capitalists, and many of those Crony Capitalists own both teams.
      If you’d take the time to read this book (4 volumes), you would learn how Government has always been about mercantilism (Crony Capitalism), with a brief respite for about 70 years after the revolution when they were restrained by a very Freedom Conscious and alert citizenry. Now we have come full circle:
      http://mises.org/books/conceived1.pdf
      http://mises.org/books/conceived2.pdf
      http://mises.org/books/conceived3.pdf
      http://mises.org/books/conceived4.pdf

      • Bob666

        Yo Dave,
        I don’t disagree with your statement on Crony Capitalism at all.

      • JeffH

        The Case for Legalizing Capitalism – by Kel Kelly

        Kelly’s book moves the Austrian theory of the business cycle up front to present a popular understanding of booms and busts. Without understanding this point, there is scarce hope for figuring out the rest of the puzzle that is the economic stagnation of today. His entire treatment is, as Rothbard would say, “100% sound” in every area: it has that persuasive power that comes with telling it the way it is.(less)

        It is a book that every freedom lover can rally around and give to the deeply confused.
        http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/8589134-the-case-for-legalizing-capitalism

        • TheOriginalDaveH

          Can you beat that, Jeff? 3 thumbs down for recommending a book? That could only have come from book-burning illiterate Liberal Progressives.

          • JeffH

            Like you DaveH, we all have our enemies. There are some ignorants who single out and actually stalk/troll our comments as well as others just for a down vote. Oh well.
            I’m OK with it though…transparent they’re not.

    • Vis Fac

      The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter. Winston Churchill

      You don’t have to be a Marine to make a difference the only requirement is being truly patriotic and the willingness to back it up!!!

      Libertas inaestimabilis res est
      Semper-Fi

      • rick0857

        Same to you Marine you too Sir are a credit to REAL MEN EVERYWHERE!!

        • Vis Fac

          There are few real men (and women) left here in the US most have been caught op in ODUMBO’s pseudo charisma and omnipotence They jumped on the band wagon to say yes I made a difference not knowing that difference destroyed America

          You don’t have to be a Marine to make a difference the only requirement is being truly patriotic and the willingness to back it up!!!

          Libertas inaestimabilis res est
          Semper-Fi

    • chuckb

      Bob, Does the poll on partisanship mean the Republicans should only vote the way the Bolsheviks want?. The Rino group seem to be very partisan to me. They cave in to them almost 90% of the time, if it wasn’t for the Tea Party members in Congress, we might as well stop holding elections.
      The big move is on now with all the attention being drawn to the polls, it looks like is a concerted effort by the Left and people like you to indoctrinate people with these statistics. They are construed in such a way, the answer could be interpreted the way the pollster wants.
      They don’t lie, they just twist the meaning of the question.

      The polls don’t influence my thinking, they do aggravate me, when I see the stupidity of people that are influenced by them.

      This all proves one thing, both parties are corrupt, the Bolsheviks more so.

      The Tea Party is the only one left standing and conservatives should
      support their efforts.

      It’s hard for the Bolsheviks to attack the TP, they don’t have a national leader, so they have to ridicule anyone who wears the badge. and they are gaining, ask Barry, he seems to be very worried.

      • rick0857

        Chuck between you and ol’ Force Recon there are some really intelligent people speaking out today. You Sir are a credit to the men!

        • Chuckb

          Thanks Rick, the same goes for you/

      • Jeff

        Yes, math has a well-known liberal bias.

        • Bob666

          Yes Jeff, especially when these folks run out of fingers and toes to keep track.

          • WTS/JAY

            Yeah, and what use do you liberals have of fingers and toes, or math, for that matter, when you have your polls to keep you informed? Lol!

        • TheOriginalDaveH

          Here you go, Jeff, see how you do on this:
          http://www.pewresearch.org/quiz/science-knowledge/

          • Average_Joe56

            Dang it!…I missed one… No. 7
            Ok, I admit it…I’m not perfect…but pretty darn close….lol
            ;)

            “You scored better than 85% of the public, below 7% and the same as 8%.”

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            Do you suppose Jeff will tell us honestly how he scored?

          • Average_Joe56

            Not likely….
            :0 ….doh!

          • Jana

            I didn’t miss any. I am surprised that I didn’t, but I enjoyed it.

          • Average_Joe56

            Only because I gave away number 7….lol ( just kidding)
            ;)

          • Jana

            LOL That had to be it. :)

          • Karolyn

            I got one wrong.

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            Now you’ve done it. Jeff will be humiliated.

        • TheOriginalDaveH
    • rick0857

      The only thing polls tell me is STUPID PEOPLE WITH NOTHING TO DO ANSWER STUPID QUESTIONS ASKED BY JACKASS DEMOCRATS OVER THE PHONE BECAUSE NO ONE ELSE WILL TALK TO THEIR DUM MASSES! I know dumb is misspelled it’s on purpose just say that fast both ending words and you’ll understand what I’m saying.

      • JeffH

        Polls are really nothing more than cannon fader.

        • WTS/JAY

          Recent polls find that exactly 50% of Americans comprise half of it’s population. Hmm, what a useful survey;-)

          When you poll people who are not informed or misinformed about the details of an issue the poll is invalid. The results simply prove how uninformed people are.

          The networks misinform the public about an issue and then they turn around and poll the same misinformed public on how they feel about that issue?

          Perhaps they should poll the people on their knowledge of the issue first and then poll them about how they feel.

          They will never do this because it would expose the fact that they are misinforming their viewers.

          • JeffH

            Kinda like Obama’s 91% of the NRA membership want universal background checks…make up any number you feel supports your view and then pander it like it’s the gospel.

          • WTS/JAY

            Exactly!

      • Vis Fac

        Oh we get it Dumbed Down Masses meaning LIBERALS

        You don’t have to be a Marine to make a difference the only requirement is being truly patriotic and the willingness to back it up!!!

        Libertas inaestimabilis res est
        Semper-Fi

        • rick0857

          Actually I meant dumb a$$es

          • Vis Fac

            Same difference !!!

            You don’t have to be a Marine to make a difference the only requirement is being truly patriotic and the willingness to back it up!!!

            Libertas inaestimabilis res est
            Semper-Fi

      • Motov

        Polls are pretty much useless, because the way the questions are asked. On most issues, one can get people to lean one way.
        Then by rephrasing the same questions another can get the same people to lean another way. It all depends how those questions are asked

    • Bill

      Bob, Who steps all over people,
      What are you, a salesman for the Rasmussen Reports?

      • Bob666

        Will Bill,

        I’m an engineer and I love numbers. 2+2 = 4 regardless of who controls the house, senate or presidency, see below for Gallup.

        Support for the tea party is nearly as low as it’s been since the movement’s creation, according to a Gallup poll released Thursday.

        Twenty-two percent of those polled consider themselves supporters of the tea party, while 27 percent of respondents say they oppose the movement. The remaining 51 percent say they’re neither, or don’t have an opinion. Those who say they “strongly oppose” the tea party also outnumber those who “strongly support” it, 17 percent to 11 percent.

        Overall support is down 10 points from the 32 percent who supported the tea party in the days after the 2010 midterm election, and nearly tied with the record low support for the movement in late 2011, as measured by Gallup.

        While Republicans continue to have the closest ties to the tea party, their level of support is far lower than it was in the movement’s heyday. Thirty-eight percent of Republicans support the tea party, while 7 percent of them oppose it and a majority 55 percent is ambivalent. In November 2010, 65 percent of Republicans identified with the Tea Party.

        On the flip side, tea party members are less than unanimously pleased with the GOP; while 55 percent of members view the Republican Party favorably, 43 percent of them view it unfavorably.

        http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/09/26/tea-party-poll_n_3995449.html

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  • Crystal Smith

    I always read many comments before commenting for there are those that bring new information that I don’t have yet. However, I will NEVER read the sites or magazine articles that are already designed for kool-aid drinkers to slurp up and repost pretending that they are well read and educated. I will also be careful about some conservative ones too that are using too much emotional play. Today, I vote Frakenbiker’s comment as the most “intellectual” comment. He seemed to thought with his very own brain. You people just REFUSE to wake up and see the USA fall is PLANNED just as it has been on other counties. The dissolving gradually of the right wing had been implemented years ago and now it’s been push comes to shove situation as they are in Greece. You THINK how you think because your brain and ego says you want to be on the winning and popular team and you have a sense of doing the right type of stuff. It’s all a psyops game for the elitists. If you aren’t an elitist or quite wealthy WHY would you play this? I have to make an assumption that some commenters here ARE the elitists and grappling with the control machine. Can you win in the end?

    • Vis Fac

      In ODUMBO’S 2008 campaign we should have known the end plan for ODUMBO campaigned on change and being more like Europe. To most it seemed Innocuous and maybe benign but winding up as being iniquitous. It’s not rocket science (well maybe to a liberal it is) to realize that Europe was, is, and still remains an economic mess and the model for ODUMBO’S America Of Course this was planned and liberal America being dumbed down didn’t see it.

      Enter phase two 2012 ODUMBO’S ‘forward” campaign with voter fraud apathy and heavy bombardment by lame stream media on the under educated America we got a lame duck more than eager to force his “legacy” on America more of the same BS but at an accelerated pace throwing in more scandals and usurpation thrust upon Americans ODUMBOCARE Threats of War aiding and abetting our enemies. and Americans do nothing.

      ODUMBO is OWNED by the WTO and the central banksters and our congress has been bought by lobbyists. No doubt this was planned I’m afraid nothing short of a revolution will save our beloved nation for we’ve been sold and allowed it to happen.

      The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter. Winston Churchill

      You don’t have to be a Marine to make a difference the only requirement is being truly patriotic and the willingness to back it up!!!

      Libertas inaestimabilis res est
      Semper-Fi

      • nc

        FORCE, You wrote in an earlier post yesterday that if you have the willpower and tenacity you can gain what you want and that’s how you did it!
        QUESTION!!! WHY DON’T YOU HAVE THE GOVERNMENT YOU WANT?? WHY DON’T YOU HAVE THE TYPE OF COUNTRY YOU WANT?? WHY ARE YOU SITTING BACK HERE IN 1% HEAVEN HOWLING AT THE MOON AND CURSING THE STARS!
        Did we Liberals gain control because we were the ones with the most willpower and tenacity to go for what we wanted while your side just pi$$ed and moaned!
        Let me guess your answer as to how we got to lead! That those liberals used 1913 conspiracies and false flags and FEMA CAMPS and gun confiscation and election fraud and STOLE it from you people!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Do you have any idea how absurd those excuses are to intelligent adult independents who read them?? It’s why they laugh at Michele Bachmann and Sarah Palin and you get 1% of the vote!

        • Vis Fac

          QUESTION!!! WHY DON’T YOU HAVE THE GOVERNMENT YOU WANT?? WHY DON’T YOU HAVE THE TYPE OF COUNTRY YOU WANT?? WHY ARE YOU SITTING BACK HERE IN 1% HEAVEN HOWLING AT THE MOON AND CURSING THE STARS”
          You cannot handle the truth but you’ll get it anyway The reason I don’t have what you asked above is because there are so many dumbed down parasites like you who believe that government is there to provide for them. Too many Liberals who don’t want to work yet want what others have and demand government “share the wealth” and you bought into it. Do you have your share?
          Too many liberals believe the BS that ODUMBO was targeting the 1% to raise taxes knowing full well that his real intent was to destroy the middle class via sequester forcing congress to capitulate in an across the board tax hike and the loss of deductions raising taxes on everyone and again you bought it.
          It Is apathy of the Americans that idly sit by and let the government usurp our freedoms and dismantle OUR Constitution
          You are oblivious and too stupid to realize that DUMBOCRITIC policy doesn’t work. I need only mention Detroit the model ODUMBO wants for America 60 years of DUMBOCRITIC economics spending more than the economy can support and you believe this to be progress?
          It’s liberals like you who are why we no longer have the nation our forefathers formed fought for. Your lack of responsibility has run our nation into the ground. I am only warming up so don’t dare get me on a roll for you surely won’t want to hear what else I have to say.
          The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter. Winston Churchill

          You don’t have to be a Marine to make a difference the only requirement is being truly patriotic and the willingness to back it up!!!

          Libertas inaestimabilis res est
          Semper-Fi

          • rick0857

            Couldn’t have said it better brother. Semper Fi, now I’m no Marine be we chewed a lot of the same ground I think based on your talk. I’m just a former Staff Sergeant Army Vietnam Vet 1st Infantry Division and I’ve got your back!

          • Vis Fac

            As I have yours !!!

            You don’t have to be a Marine to make a difference the only requirement is being truly patriotic and the willingness to back it up!!!

            Libertas inaestimabilis res est
            Semper-Fi

          • Jana

            nc thinks (if he thinks) that if he yells he sounds tougher. He doesn’t.

          • Vis Fac

            Nut Case doesn’t think can’t think only react. People suffering from cerebral necrosis (Liberals) need to be informed via government propaganda outlets.

            It’s fairly easy to put people like Nut Case SMELLY rbrooks and KGB in their place because of their educational handicap meaning they have no education.

            I have asked these CLOWNS to answer SPECIFIC questions and to ate have yet to receive a reply sans “these are stupid questions” These questions are stupid because they (liberals) have no comprehension skills and therefore anything not understood is labeled stupid.

            A forth grader has more on the ball than these clowns!!!

            You don’t have to be a Marine to make a difference the only requirement is being truly patriotic and the willingness to back it up!!!

            Libertas inaestimabilis res est
            Semper-Fi

          • http://www.rt.com Alondra

            He is yelling from the happiness.

            By his own confession he is happy that the Oval Office is occupied by “his Assness” a NATURAL BORN FRAUD & LIAR.

            This is “his Assness” without teleprompter.

          • Vis Fac

            Happy as a Sissy in a carrot patch? AH now it makes perfect sense !!!

            You don’t have to be a Marine to make a difference the only requirement is being truly patriotic and the willingness to back it up!!!

            Libertas inaestimabilis res est
            Semper-Fi

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            Keep up the good fight fellow patriot. No quarter! We know about Obama bin Laden’s education program called common core, a flop if you ask me, but here is an idea on how to get out of it.

            http://www.americanvision.org/9588/dear-michelle-malkin-heres-get-common-core/#sthash.WgAhQvCs.lwsOe38D.dpbs

            Just gotta love Michelle Malkin and others for standing up for what is right. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!

            You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot.

            “A person who has the answer, and doesn’t know it, is just as lost as he who never knew.”

            Samurai

          • independent thinker

            Ahh, nc is just throwing a temper tantrum like a 3 year old when he “yells” like that.

          • NC

            Force, do you remember what happened to the famous Marine who screamed “You can’t handle the truth”” They lead him away in “chains” in a court of law that knew the real truth! The truth that his “gung ho” bravado narrow minded idea of how people should be patriots was not the law of the land!! NEITHER IS YOURS!!!
            There are more interpretations of the Constitution than just yours! If you don’t believe it just drop in to a law Library and see the volumes and volumes of cases where people who thought they “knew” exactly what the Constitution “said” were told in no uncertain terms that they were wrong!!Might be worth your time!!
            This liberal is not interested in any thing for myself! I have three children and 6 grandchildren who tell me they love me, a set of golf clubs and two fishing rods!! There is nothing material that I need!
            What I WANT IS A GOVERNMENT “FOR THE PEOPLE”!
            All of the people, especially those who fortune has dealt a weak hand! Not that they be made rich as the richest or as powerful as the powerful but that they do not lie in bed hungry and without hope!
            BTW, I LOVED YOUR SPEECH ABOUT BEING “TEA PARTY” AND EXERCISING YOUR FREEDOM OF SPEECH! BRINGS BACK VIVID MEMORIES OF THOSE DUDES AND DUDETTES WITH TEA BAGS ON THEIR HATS AT TOWM HALL MEETINGS YELLING AND DROWING OUT THE ” FREE SPEECH” OF THE MAN WHO CALLED THE MEETING BECAUSE HE HAD SOMETHING TO SAY” DOUBLE STANDARD??? NOPE! JUST CONSERVATIVE FREEDOM OF SPEECH!

          • Vis Fac

            Well Nut Case Leave it to a liberal like you ( and one other clown) toy use a cheesy line in a HOLLYWIERD production.oh so typical of liberals who dwell in La La Land

            THIS IS HILARIOUS !!! especially because you are too cowardly to enlist yourself, and you want to lecture me?? Again THIS IS HILARIOUS !!!

            Speaking of Courts made up mostly of LYING liberal trial lawyers that couldn’t tell the truth if their lives depended on it.

            You have never had to read the constitution in a government class and given the tenet of liberal one dimensional idiot-ology know you never had government or civics in that indoctrination camp that masqueraded as public school. if you did you got the liberal version devoid of any facts.

            QUOTE “All of the people, especially those who fortune has dealt a weak hand! Not that they be made rich as the richest or as powerful as the powerful but that they do not lie in bed hungry and without hope!”

            Our family were immigrants fleeing an oppressive regime that was intent on eliminating us If you were able to comprehend what others read you’d have known this,

            It took us nearly nine months to travel to Ellis Island to ask for asylum we had no sponsor and only the clothes on our backs no home ONLY hope. So spare me your BS because you couldn’t have it any worse than we.

            I made it my life’s mission never to be in a position to to beg as we had done before I decided to APPLY myself take advantage of every opportunity that came along. I paid attention in school and received a “quality” education (not the liberal dumbed down from 1970 on) and to repay what I felt I owed enlisted in the US armed forces.

            Through sheer determination I was able to parlay my sacrifices and hard work into a successful business. It is more difficult to day because LIBERALS want their hands in everything from your pockets to regulations requiring more taxes in the form of fees.

            The poor and unfortunate are there because they want to be for if I can make it so can anyone else you just want to apply yourself.

            Opportunity is missed by most people because it is
            dressed in overalls and looks like work. Thomas Edison

            The greatest danger for most of us is not that our aim is
            too high and we miss it, but that it is too low and we reach it. Michelangelo

            So you can get off that high horse of yours and start embracing reality for if you refuse don’t say I didn’t warn you!!

            The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter. Winston Churchill

            You don’t have to be a Marine to make a difference the only requirement is being truly patriotic and the willingness to back it up!!!

            Libertas inaestimabilis res est
            Semper-Fi

          • NC

            Force, I had a full semester course in Constitutional Law course under one of the most celebrated Constitutional Law Professors in this country! He practiced before the Supreme Court for some years! Made an A! My only A that semester!
            That’s why I often suggest that people visit Law Libraries and read AND STUDY THOSE DECISIONS! YOU WILL FIND HOW COMPLEX IT HAS BECOME TO MAKE A DOCUMENT WRITTEN IN A DIFFERENT TIME SERVE CITIZENS WHOSE PROBLEMS ARE OF TODAY!
            IT’S A LITTLE MORE COMPLEX THAN “BY GOD, I CAN READ SO I KNOW WHAT IT SAYS! AND BESIDES THAT I HEARD IT ON FOX NEWS FROM SEAN HANNITY HIMSELF!!!!””
            SURE THING!!! PITIFUL!!

            SEMPER FI BY ENLISTMENT!!! 1957

          • Vis Fac

            WOW a full semester of constitution and you learned and know it all. I’ve studied and continue to learn to this day and don’t know it all. Times don’t change PEOPLE’S attitudes change they are always wanting to change things to promote THEIR agenda.

            How complex a matter is depends on who is involved corporate law is different than criminal or civil the complexities are endless. Where OUR Constitution is involved it is quite specific. Again the only complexities arise from those who have an agenda to push.

            I’m old enough to know better I am no spring chicken by any means and being a naturalized citizen having to study OUR Constitution believe I have a better grasp of it than you.

            The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter. Winston Churchill

            You don’t have to be a Marine to make a difference the only requirement is being truly patriotic and the willingness to back it up!!!

            Libertas inaestimabilis res est
            Semper-Fi

        • TheOriginalDaveH

          NutCase says — “Did we Liberals gain control because we were the ones with the most willpower and tenacity to go for what we wanted while your side just pi$$ed and moaned!”.
          No, NutCase, you Liberals gained power because you are the ones without morality who have no problems with enslaving other people to feed your miserable faces, and who are too ignorant to know that after the collapse you will be the first people to be thrown under the bus by the Leaders, being the useless creatures that you are.

    • rick0857

      With sentences like “He seemed to thought with his very own brain.” I don’t believe we’ll be taking your opinions on anything and quite frankly, I don’t think anyone cares what you have to say. You come off as some sort of smug, self centered navel gazer.In other words a progressive which never ceases to amaze me in that you call yourselves “progressive” yet the direction you want this nation to ie; windmills and solar energy is technology from the 14th century.

      • The Snarf

        rick- You actually sound more like the progressive liberal, using grammar as an excuse to deny the facts being stated. Ever read the 1963 outline of the American communist party that was up before congressional review? All but a few of their points, the ones the “progressives” are pushing for now, have been accomplished. I agree somewhat with what Crystal says, it is unfortunate that we have all had lifetime indoctrinations into the, now co-opted, two-party system. Other than the few, such as Cruz and Paul, the establishment GOP and the Democrats are essentially the same. The Tea Party should split with the GOP altogether, become their own party.

        • TheOriginalDaveH

          There is already a Party that understands the concept of Freedom better than any other Political Party.
          For Individual Freedom, Personal Responsibility, Free Markets, Limited Government, and the PEACE that comes from not cramming everybody into the same shoes — Vote Libertarian!
          http://www.lp.org/
          http://www.lp.org/platform

          • JeffH

            I’d love to see the “grassroots” Tea Party and the Libertarian Party join forces. The grassroots movement of the Tea Party could learn much from the LP and I think they could become a viable political force.

          • Motov

            I agree with that, seeing the republicrats, are nothing more than “flak catchers” when the Democrats’ plans go awry. We should be on the offensive, since there is no “compromise” with any Liberal, One just need to look at their relentless attempts to remove the second amendment, Even with their added “make guns difficult to obtain laws”, they fail to understand that by definition crooks don’t give a hoot about laws and easily acquire guns anyways. The ONLY solution is allow us to keep our guns, so we do NOT have to depend on BIG government for everything. This is what true freedom is!
            We do NOT need NOR want BIG government in our lives. We also do not need religious nutcases legislating “morality” for us. As long as we respect each other’s rights, as spelled out in our constitution and the biblical 10 commandments. I call this common sense, we all know killing , stealing, etc is wrong. But some go too far by making stupid laws. That’s why we are a republic and not a true democracy.

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            Maybe, but I would fear dilution of the Libertarian message. Most of the Tea Party people I’ve listened to have disparate ideas of what should be done, and many of those ideas clash with Freedom.

          • Average_Joe56

            My biggest issue with the “Tea Party” is that what started out as a grassroots efforts to get Ron Paul elected in 2008 (money bombs X2 in 2007) has been infiltrated and corrupted by the Republican party and their brand of politics and policies.
            I’ll stick with the Libertarian Party.
            ;)

          • JeffH

            AJ, the original grassroots Tea Party is still pretty much the same.
            Where I do agree with you is in the groups that have co-opted the TP name to take it on to the national level…but none of the just use the Tea Party name choosing to add “Patriots”, “Express”, and such…although still conservative they’re certainly not Libertarians.

          • Average_Joe56

            I am fiscally conservative, but socially liberal…that makes the Libertarian Party the perfect place for me.

            I don’t believe that there is a contradiction in my thought processes, as the libertarian philosophy pretty much follows the original intent of the founding father’s, their writings and their beliefs.
            They believed that a man has the right to follow his dreams unimpeded by government interference, as long as he doesn’t violate the rights of anyone else in the process.
            They believed that a man had the right to own property and to use it as he sees fit… without government interference.
            They believed that a man has the right to defend himself, his family and his property, by any means necessary.
            They believed that a man has the right to worship (or not worship) any way he chooses to do so, without government interference.
            They believed in “The Rule of Law”… and not the “Rule of Men”.

            In short, they believed that everyone has the right to Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness….without government interference.

            BTW, none of the down votes are from me. I understand what you are saying and I agree that the “original” Tea Partiers are still out there and they are still fighting the good fight. However, I believe that the majority of those original Tea partiers….are actually closer to being libertarian than any other “Party” available to them.

            Unless and until we gather together under one tent and vote as a unified group, the progressives will continue to win…and America will continue to lose.
            The Libertarian Party is an established party, and they are recognized nationally. The Tea Party, while well known…are NOT an established party.

            Because of the co-opting by the Republicans, their message is mixed and diluted… which is why they are so easily targeted by the left.

            Won’t you consider joining us under the big tent?

            “United we stand, divided we fall”.
            Four Oxen and the Lion
            Aesop 620–564 BC

            “The best things in history are accomplished by people who get “tired of being shoved around.”
            Have Spacesuit, Will Travel (1958)
            Robert A. Heinlein

            “Reason is poor propaganda when opposed by the yammering, unceasing lies of shrewd and evil and self-serving men. ”
            Assignment in Eternity (1953)
            Robert A. Heinlein

          • JeffH

            No arguement here. My experience with the Tea Party is through the grassroots Central Valley Tea Party in central California and has been nothing but positive.

            I’m guessing that I’m a conservative with a very strong Libertarian bent. I learned that here from, what I consider, some very good people.

          • Average_Joe56

            I have discovered over the years that learning is an ongoing and lifelong endeavor. The main learning experience…is learning from our mistakes and not repeating them… while passing that knowledge on to others.

          • JeffH

            Amen to that! You’re a good man AJ.

          • Karolyn

            I recently heard a good quote: “Learn from the mistakes of others so you don’t have to make them all yourself.”

          • Average_Joe56

            One of my favorite quotes comes from Douglas Adams (The Hitchhiker’s Guide to The Galaxy)

            “Human beings, who are almost unique in having the ability to learn from the experience of others, are also remarkable for their apparent disinclination to do so.”

            Douglas Adams
            Sad, but true.

          • Karolyn

            Ain’t that the truth! – Especially for the young. I remember telling my friend’s 20 year old son years ago, “If you even just take to heart a little bit of what we have learned, you’ll be way ahead of the game.” Do you think he did? Of course not; and he has not done well with his life.

          • Bill

            Jesse Ventura – 2016

          • Average_Joe56

            Charlie Sheen/ Lindsey Lohan 2016!
            Cocaine and hookers for everyone!
            (just kidding of course)
            ;)

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            Keep up the good fight fellow patriot. No quarter! Sarah Palin and Ted Cruz in 2016! Here is an article about an event at the Alamo.

            http://www.guns.com/2013/10/19/gun-rally-alamo-stirs-controversy-come-take-san-antonio/

            FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!

            You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot.

            “The name of the Lord is a strong tower; thither the righteous flee and are safe (Proverbs 18:10). Let us secure His favor and He will lead us through the journey of this life and at length receive us to a better.”

            Samuel Adams

          • Motov

            Or Andrew Napolitano -2016
            I’ll take either one, or better yet one can be VP and run on the same ticket.

          • Vis Fac

            Then you’re not listening to real Tea Party members you are hearing from liberals POSING as Tea Party members Liberals stop ant NOTHING to support their agenda as we all know by those who post here

            You don’t have to be a Marine to make a difference the only requirement is being truly patriotic and the willingness to back it up!!!

            Libertas inaestimabilis res est
            Semper-Fi

          • Vis Fac

            Then you’re not listening to real Tea Party members you are hearing from liberals POSING as Tea Party members Liberals stop ant NOTHING to support their agenda as we all know by those who post here

            You don’t have to be a Marine to make a difference the only requirement is being truly patriotic and the willingness to back it up!!!

            Libertas inaestimabilis res est
            Semper-Fi

          • Patriot Missile

            The Tea Party backs what up Force Recon. While you fought they protested. Some group of patriots you hang out with. PTSD anyone?

          • Average_Joe56

            broken-broken,
            Please see my reply to you…above.
            You’ve exceeded your limit.

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            Argument to ridicule. Now be quiet and go home. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
            You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot.

          • Vis Fac

            No need to ask who you hang out with; dopers and tweakers. As you are constantly in a drug induced stupor you cannot possibly understand nor want to what the Tea Party represents. The tea Party is a threat to you because we want to return to constitutional law.

            Should this occur your “gravy train” will come to a screeching halt. You’ll have to start taking personal responsibility for your own wellbeing and fend for yourself. You’ll have no more FREE RIDE no more WELFARE no more FOOD STAMPS no more ODUMBOPHONES paid by someone else This prospect is utterly horrifying to lazy A$$ES like you.
            You are scared to death of the Tea Party this is why you focus so much time and energy on abasing and discrediting Tea party members.

            The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter.

            You don’t have to be a Marine to make a difference the only requirement is being truly patriotic and the willingness to back it up!!!

            Libertas inaestimabilis res est
            Semper-Fi

          • Jana

            English anyone????

          • Nadzieja Batki

            Making assumptions, Patriot Missile. We don’t know who you are and we don’t know what people you hang out with. We can question your motives and your beliefs and as to why you post on this site.

          • Bob666

            Wow Nads,

            PLD’s Little ray of sunshine is pulling the vampire shift and spreading joy.

            “We don’t know who you are and we don’t know what people you hang out with”.

            The first amendment is a wonderful fact of life.

          • Vis Fac

            We the Tea Party are patriotic Americans. We peacefully assemble. We petition our government. We exercise our right to free speech and we don’t understand why our government tried to stop us. We aren’t here as serfs or vassals. We’re not begging our lords for mercy.

            We are born free American citizens and we’re telling our government that you’ve forgotten your place. It’s not your responsibility to look out for our well being and monitor our speech. It’s not your right to assert an agenda. The post that you occupy exists to preserve American liberty. You’ve sworn to perform that duty and you have FAILED.

            You don’t have to be a Marine to make a difference the only requirement is being truly patriotic and the willingness to back it up!!!

            Libertas inaestimabilis res est
            Semper-Fi

          • breaker-breaker

            Another fool who follows blindly without question. Tea Party member who is a marine? The only Tea Party marine? The Tea Party cowards never served their country, while ordinary men and women fight for their country.

          • Average_Joe56

            broken-broken,

            Got anything to back up your ridiculous claims? ( other than your lame opinion?)

            While it is nice that you have an opinion, that and $5 will get you a cup of coffee in some places….

            This isn’t one of them.

            Back up your claims with verifiable facts….otherwise you are simply blowing smoke up your own backside….

            “Every man is a damn fool for at least five minutes every day; wisdom consists in not exceeding the limit.”
            Elbert Hubbard

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            That is a bald faced lie. I’m a Tea Party member and have retired from serving with the army infantry for 20 years, so what do you say now? Here is something about your pretender in office.

            http://www.westernjournalism.com/bombshell-ex-cia-agent-claims-obama-breitbart-clancy-killed/

            FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!

            You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot.

            “I rely upon the merits of Jesus Christ for a pardon of all my sins.”

            Samuel Adams
            Signer of the Declaration of Independence
            “Father of the American Revolution”
            Devout Christian

          • Vis Fac

            And yet here we have you a COWARD who will NEVER serve this country who will NEVER contribute anything positive to society yet feels because he knows EVERYTHING experienced EVERYTHING is entitled to abase those who have and do. WOW I’m almost speechless; ALMOST

            Since you are obviously only 12 years old I’ll go easy on you. Little pukes like you have never had to work for anything little ungrateful BRATS like you have never has your A$$ spanked otherwise you would understand how the real world works and have some respect.

            No doubt mommy and daddy provided you with anything you want just to shut your greedy A$$ up Your mommy and daddy are most likely DUMBOCRITES; slaves to the environment they participated in creating so they both must work to make ends meet.

            Now take your sorry little A$$ and sit in front of your VIDIOT BOX and rot what’s left of that pea brain of yours playing your VIDIOT GAMES.

            The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter.

            You don’t have to be a Marine to make a difference the only requirement is being truly patriotic and the willingness to back it up!!!

            Libertas inaestimabilis res est
            Semper-Fi

          • Nadzieja Batki

            Excuse me but where does it say that Force Recon follows blindly without question?
            You are also writing lies since you don’t know who of the Tea Party was military or not. You also are assuming that the “ordinary men and women fight for their country”. How do you know that and in what way are doing the fighting for their country?

          • JeffH

            That is why I would like them to learn from the LP…it’s the education about freedom at the grassroots level that I’d like them to learn and uderstand.

          • Bill

            Amen, Brother

          • NC

            Aboriginal, have you selected a phone booth for your next convention??? Are you the keynote speaker???? Are you going to sell Von Mises lunch boxes?? Don’t forget to have your picture made with Wayne Root! WOOPEE S**t!!!!

  • JeffH

    Republican Texas Rep. Steve Stockman arranged to have a book calling for President Obama’s impeachment hand delivered to all 435 members of the U.S. House of Representatives.

    Stockman ensured Friday that all House members have a copy of “Impeachable Offenses: The case for removing Barack Obama from office” by Aaron Klein and Brenda J. Elliott.
    http://dailycaller.com/2013/10/18/rep-stockman-gives-all-house-members-a-book-on-impeachment/#ixzz2iC0GJB6z

    • Jeff

      Let’s hope they follow your advice and vote to impeach Obama. Nothing short of you running for president could do more damage to the Republican brand. Please vote to impeach. PLEEEEASE!

      • JeffH

        My advice unhinged Jeff? Comprehension problems!

        WATCH Congressman Steve Stockman Discuss Obama Impeachment
        //www.westernjournalism.com/watch-congressman-steve-stockman-discuss-obama-impeachment/#L0STJfA856AX3oMo.99

        Who cares about the “Republican” brand? Certainly not me!

        • Jeff

          Then by all means announce your candidacy. And you can adorn your bumper stickers with swastikas and pictures of your Uncle Adolph. Maybe Cousin Dave can teach you enough Austrian to speak to the far right wingers he hangs out with.

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            Argument to ridicule. Here is an article about queer rights and totalitarianism.

            http://www.victoriajackson.com/9892/gay-rights-trojan-horse-totalitarianism/

            But alas! We know this is true. To destroy traditional values is a showing of totalitarianism. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!

            You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot. This leaves you out.

            “True religion affords to government its surest support.”

            George Washington

          • SpudPicker

            Swastikas and pix of Uncle Adolph are more akin to the hammer and sickle than the far right.

            Both Nazism and communism are left wing–socialist types and have similar end goals..

            The Nazis wanted to take over by force of arms. Then the “master race” would rule the world.

            The communists get control by infiltration and indoctrination and they want to rule the world as well!

            The right wing does not belong to either category
            .
            Saw an article the other day where Klinton said that “the people will get used to communism.” And, I understand the “re-education centers” are ready for those that take a little extra help.

          • JeffH

            Such a strong and well thought out response by Unhinged Jeff?
            NOT!

          • Jeff

            You remain the only person I’ve ever “communicated” with to actually advertise his Nazi sympathies.

          • JeffH

            That’s funny but not unexpected coming from you unhinged Jeff considering I compare O with the Nazi Hitler and I don’t like either one…yet you do clearly embrace O and that other Nazi sympathizer Soros.

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            Keep up the good fight fellow patriot. No quarter! Here is an article about Obama bin Laden’s friends at the Muslim Brotherhood and our own MSM.

            http://www.freedomoutpost.com/2013/10/muslim-brotherhoods-hamas-cair-american-media-lazy-gullible-take-advantage/

            Never mind Jeff. We know he is a Nazi at heart. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!

            You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot.

            “I have examined all religions, and the result is that the Bible is the best book in the world.”

            John Adams

          • Jeff

            Jeff Hinged To Silly Reactionary Ideology:

            I once thought you might have a few functioning brain cells beneath that Nazi-idolizing, gun-fetishizing exterior. I was wrong.

          • JeffH

            You’ve always been wrong Unhinged Jeff…why change now?
            POLLY WANT A CRACKER? baaarrraaaccckkkkkk!

          • Jeff

            I’ll bet your mother always told you how clever you were. But then, she probably told you you were the handsomest boy in the neighborhood, too.

          • Bob666

            And that is probably the only woman to give him the time of day since

          • Jeff

            I just find it odd he stores the Viagara right by the gun locker.

          • Bob666

            Well Jeff,
            I guess being that old and pissed at the world, he needs all the help that he can get.

            Charlie Sheen claimed that his melt-down was due to over pumping testosterone gel and using to many little blue pills. I can see where Bang-Bang and Charlie Sheen have more than a bit in common.

          • Jeff

            So we should just call JeffH “Charlie”? Or Uncle Charlie?

          • Bob666

            How about Bang-Bang Sheen?

          • JeffH

            I’ll bet your herder placed your back legs in his boots before he sheared your wool too!

      • TheOriginalDaveH

        Watch what you wish for, it might come true. If enough CINOs and Democrats are ousted in the senate next year, impeachment could gain traction.

        • Deerinwater

          It’s beginning to shape up like Senate might maintain democrat leadership midterm. ~ It’s a little early to predict with much certainty while the GOP is clearly losing ground today.

          • SpudPicker

            If the people start paying attention and thinking for themselves we very well could have a republican Senate. We can always hope!

            Here’s a little tidbit to think about: We ran up about $25 billion in debt fighting WWI. We never paid it back. So far we have paid about $60 billion in interest on that debt.
            Think about how much interest we will pay on $17 TRILLION! We can feed a lot of people and provide a lot of health care for that…..But it will just be profit for those that hold the debt if not paid!
            Time to think about paying our debts and not running up more debt as the democrats are doing ($300 Billion for the next three months!?)
            Sure would like to see the Senate on Cruz Control!

          • Bob666

            Yo Spud,
            A very good point. But I believe Mr. Cruz is done-but time will tell.

          • WTS/JAY

            SpudPicker: Sure would like to see the Senate on Cruz Control!

            Probably few are aware that Ted Cruz’s wife Heidi is a vice president for Goldman Sachs. Would they be more disturbed to know about her work on the independent task force that wrote “Building a North American Community” which was sponsored by the Council on Foreign Relations. Her bio in that report says, “HEIDI S. CRUZ is an energy investment banker with Merrill Lynch in Houston, Texas. She served in the Bush White House under Dr. Condoleezza Rice as the Economic Director for the Western Hemisphere at the National Security Council, as the Director of the Latin America Office at the U.S. Treasury Department, and as Special Assistant to Ambassador Robert B. Zoellick, U.S. Trade Representative. Prior to government service, Ms. Cruz was an investment banker with J.P. Morgan in New York City.”

            I found a copy of the task force report here: http://www.cfr.org/canada/building-north-american-community/p8102

          • JeffH

            Jay, at this point in time I would despite who Cruz’s wife might be connected to. I think Cruz pretty much wears the pants in his household and I have great faith in his knowledge and commitment to the Constitution and the people of the US.
            http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/03/18/Establishment-Threatened-by-Ted-Cruz-Appeal-at-CPAC-Constitutional-Expert-with-Conservative-Passion

            Ted Cruz gave a commencement speech at Hillsdale College. Cruz’s message was all about the inherent virtues of freedom, the American meritocracy, and the accompanying economic mobility, in which people’s rises and falls are directly related to their “talent, passion, perseverance, and willingness to fight for the American dream.”
            http://collegeinsurrection.com/2013/05/video-ted-cruz-gives-commencement-speech-at-hillsdale-college/

            Regarding Heidi Cruz and her links to the Bush WH, GS and the CFR …”As Patrick Henry, liberty lover and skeptic of government, famously remarked of the Constitutional Convention, I smell a rat…and hope on the bones of Lysander Spooner for our Republic’s sake, that I am wrong about the Senator from Texas”. – L.A. Repucci
            http://notesonliberty.com/2013/09/26/cruz-barn-burner-strawman-or-paper-tiger/

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            Keep up the good fight fellow patriot. No quarter! I like Senator Cruz also and think he could make a good candidate for president. Here is an article about the 4 ways we can defund Obama bin Laden Care.
            http://www.finance.townhall.com/columnists/michaelfcannon/2013/10/20/save-the-knives-for-obamacare-four-ways-to-actually-defund-the-aca-n1728053/page/full
            I’ll write my representatives to get them started. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
            You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot.
            “The Christian religion is, above all religions that ever prevailed or existed in ancient or modern times, the religion of wisdom, virtue, equity and humanity.”
            John Adams

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            Even many of the ignorant Liberal Progressives will figure out eventually that Obama was just playing games with our lives to get his way:
            http://www.bostonglobe.com/news/nation/2013/10/07/shutdown-will-cost-taxpayers-more-than-government-stayed-open-congress-promises-furloughed-workers-pay/olKg71NzkUFzEMfW5TWj9N/story.html

      • http://batman-news.com samurai

        It could be possible after next years elections. Why do you support this moron? Are you one also? But alas! I forgot that you can care less about the country or its problems. As long as we become a socialist state, you are happy. Not a patriotic thing to do, Jeffy. Here is a video about Obama bin Laden Care being the biggest bait and switch since social security.

        http://www.conservativevideos.com/2013/10/obamacare-biggest-bait-switch-since-social-security/

        FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!

        You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot. This leaves you out.

        “What students would learn in American schools above all is the religion of Jesus Christ.”

        George Washington
        Founding father
        “Father of our Country”
        Commander of the Continental Armies
        1st President of the U.S.
        Devout Christian

  • organicroseski2

    I heard the news media plus their pictures stating that a Confederate flag was among the Conservatives. I guess you can say that a Democrat was among them. Lincoln was a Republican; therefore, the confederates were democrats–putting it in simple terms (I know the Civil War was more complicated). Anyway, thanks again for the Saturday laugh.

    • TheOriginalDaveH

      Back then, the Democrats were the party of Freedom. The Republicans were (still are) the party of mercantilism. Now both parties have their Crony Capitalists who are given special privileges to the detriment of the rest of the citizens.
      More on Crony Capitalism as practiced by certain Founding Fathers:
      http://mises.org/daily/3164

  • Average_Joe56

    “Mr. President, I rise today to talk about America’s debt problem.

    The fact that we are here today to debate raising America’s debt limit is a sign of leadership failure. It is a sign that the U.S. Government can’t pay its own bills. It is a sign that we now depend on ongoing financial assistance from foreign countries to finance our Government’s reckless fiscal policies. Over the past 5 years, our federal debt has increased by $3.5 trillion to $8.6 trillion. That is ‘‘trillion’’ with a ‘‘T.’’ That is money that we have borrowed from the Social Security trust fund, borrowed from China and Japan, borrowed from American taxpayers. And over the next 5 years, between now and 2011, the President’s budget will increase the debt by almost another $3.5 trillion.

    Numbers that large are sometimes hard to understand. Some people may wonder why they matter. Here is why: This year, the Federal Government will spend $220 billion on interest. That is more money to pay interest on our national debt than we’ll spend on Medicaid and the State Children’s Health Insurance Program. That is more money to pay interest on our debt this year than we will spend on education, homeland security, transportation, and veterans benefits combined. It is more money in one year than we are likely to spend to rebuild the devastated gulf coast in a way that honors the best of America.

    And the cost of our debt is one of the fastest growing expenses in the Federal budget. This rising debt is a hidden domestic enemy, robbing our cities and States of critical investments in infrastructure like bridges, ports, and levees; robbing our families and our children of critical investments in education and health care reform; robbing our seniors of the retirement and health security they have counted on.

    Every dollar we pay in interest is a dollar that is not going to investment in America’s priorities. Instead, interest payments are a significant tax on all Americans—a debt tax that Washington doesn’t want to talk about. If Washington were serious about honest tax relief in this country, we would see an effort to reduce our national debt by returning to responsible fiscal policies.

    But we are not doing that. Despite repeated efforts by Senators CONRAD and FEINGOLD, the Senate continues to reject a return to the commonsense Pay-go rules that used to apply. Previously, Pay-go rules applied both to increases in mandatory spending and to tax cuts. The Senate had to abide by the commonsense budgeting principle of balancing expenses and revenues. Unfortunately, the principle was abandoned, and now the demands of budget discipline apply only to spending.

    As a result, tax breaks have not been paid for by reductions in Federal spending, and thus the only way to pay for them has been to increase our deficit to historically high levels and borrow more and more money. Now we have to pay for those tax breaks plus the cost of borrowing for them. Instead of reducing the deficit, as some people claimed, the fiscal policies of this administration and its allies in Congress will add more than $600 million in debt for each of the next 5 years.

    That is why I will once again cosponsor the Pay-go amendment and continue to hope that my colleagues will return to a smart rule that has worked in the past and can work again.

    Our debt also matters internationally. My friend, the ranking member of the Senate Budget Committee, likes to remind us that it took 42 Presidents 224 years to run up only $1 trillion of foreign-held debt. This administration did more than that in just 5 years. Now, there is nothing wrong with borrowing from foreign countries. But we must remember that the more we depend on foreign nations to lend us money, the more our economic security is tied to the whims of foreign leaders whose interests might not be aligned with ours.

    Increasing America’s debt weakens us domestically and internationally. Leadership means that ‘‘the buck stops here.’’ Instead, Washington is shifting the burden of bad choices today onto the backs of our children and grandchildren. America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership. Americans deserve better.

    I therefore intend to oppose the effort to increase America’s debt limit.”

    (2006, Senator Barack Obama)

    • Jana

      This is what Obama said all right back in 2006. Now he is speaking out of the OTHER SIDE OF HIS MOUTH. The lying side. Of course, it isn’t his fault. He was too busy playing golf.

      • JeffH

        No surprise though.

      • Average_Joe56

        Actually, I believe he is always lying…out of both sides of his mouth…. ( as my dad used to say).

        • SpudPicker

          He speaks with forked tongue!

          • Average_Joe56

            All four prongs…..

      • http://batman-news.com samurai

        Keep up the good fight fellow patriot. No quarter! Here is an article asking when can a president be deemed unfit to lead.

        http://www.theblacksphere.net/2013/10/point-can-president-deemed-unfit/

        FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!

        You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot.

        “It is the duty of all nations to acknowledge the providence of Almighty God, to obey His will, to be greatful for His benefits, and humbly to implore His protection and favor.”

        George Washington

    • http://batman-news.com samurai

      Well said and keep up the good fight fellow patriot. No quarter! Here is an article that describes how Americans still cannot understand Obama bin Laden Care.

      http://www.townhall.com/video/new-research-people-still-dont-understand-obamacare-n1727342?utm_source=thedailypm&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=nl_pm

      FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!

      You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot.

      “The Bible is no mere book, but a Living Creature, with a power that
      conquers all that oppose it.”

      Napoleon Bonaparte

    • Motov

      Perhaps We can set up a 12 step program called “DA”,….Democrats Anonymous. Spending other people’s money on stupid things is an addiction.

  • JeffH

    KING OBAMA AND THE REPUBLICNAUTS
    http://newswithviews.com/Ewart/ron123.htm

  • JeffH

    GOP ‘Shutdown Victory’ Narrative Picks Up Steam
    http://www.truthrevolt.org/news/gop-shutdown-victory-narrative-picks-steam
    “If this is Republican surrender, I hope I never see Republican victory.”

    • TheOriginalDaveH

      What? Obama isn’t going to get to Grow Government even faster? Wow, those Republicans are such hard asses.

      • JeffH

        Not the RINO Republican establishment but the other non-establishment TP/Conservative/LP Republicnauts in …all 5 or 6 of ’em.

        • TheOriginalDaveH

          It reminds me how the Democrats were crying about Reagan “cutting the budget to the bone” when in fact Spending was still growing, just not as fast as before.

          • JeffH

            Go figure!

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            Keep up the good fight fellow patriot. No quarter! Here is an article showing Congressman Trey Gowdy tearing apart poeple for closing the national parks during the shutdown. I can just see the receiving person sweating.

            http://www.theblacksphere.net/2013/10/trey-gowdy-whoops-park-closing-booty/

            FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!

            You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot.

            “”It is impossible to rightly govern the world without God and the Bible.”

            George Washington

          • Average_Joe56

            I saw that yesterday…excellent!

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            Keep up the good fight fellow patriot and thanks. No quarter! Here are some more articles about Obama bin Laden Care.

            http://www.theblacksphere.net/2013/10/obamacare-draws-south-carolina/

            http://www.theblacksphere.net/2013/10/less-doctors-obamacare-beginning/

            Looks like the death panels are being put into place. Less doctors means less patients being seen. Less patients being seen, more dying from lack of care.
            FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!

            You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot.

            “Of all the dispositions and habits which lead to political prosperity, religion and morality are indispensable supports.”

            George Washington

          • http://www.rt.com Alondra

            Another bird from the same snake nest.
            Did you see this one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rr5wYX5d-m4

          • Average_Joe56

            I had not seen that video before. Another excellent video.

            It goes back to something that I posted last week, to wit:

            “Liberals NEVER answer questions and they NEVER post anything other than opinion. They will however, dance a jig (badly) around a question. They will attempt to change the subject. They will even verbally and physically attack an adversary. But, they will not answer a question directly or truthfully ( I believe it is genetically encoded into their DNA).”

            Sorry, the links were outdated that I posted with that original post.

          • http://www.rt.com Alondra

            They do not answer questions, they LIE, they blame others http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s5bQphUJldM

          • Average_Joe56

            I saw that one a few days ago.
            Like I said…It’s in their DNA…..
            ;)

          • http://www.rt.com Alondra

            Why aren’t you in bed yet. It’s 1:30am.

          • Average_Joe56

            I’m not normal…and it’s the weekend…..
            I was an insomniac when I was younger (20s)…8-10 hrs. per week.
            I am 57 now and average about 4 hours a night of sleep. Usually about every 4 months or so, I fall out and sleep through an entire day16-18 hrs. straight then I am back to the regular routine of about 4 hrs. a night.
            I’m in “regular mode” right now.

          • http://www.rt.com Alondra

            It’s not good rhythm for this age especially for man. Man is weaker then woman. Take care about yourself. America needs you. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yeshi980iMY

          • Average_Joe56

            I do appreciate the concern for my well being. It’s nice to know that I am appreciated and looked after.
            According to my Doctor, I am in picture perfect health. We have discussed my sleeping habits and he says that if it works for me and it’s not affecting my health, he sees no issues.
            I almost always wake up in a cheerful mood….and I always try to make others smile around me. Besides…if I slept like “normal” people ( WTH is normal?), I wouldn’t get to spend so much time learning….just think of all of the information a would have missed…had I been sleeping.
            Trust me, when I get tired…I go to sleep…but my internal clock wakes me up without fail…I haven’t used an alarm clock in years.
            I just have a different “normal” than most people, when it comes to sleep.
            BTW, what are you still doing up? It’s 1:57 AM

          • http://www.rt.com Alondra

            I am glad for you. You know the need of your body better than anyone. But it’s my time to go to bed. My pillow already waiting me. I hope to se you here tomorrow. Good night and sweet dreams.

            Do not forget to say THANKS to our Daddy – Almighty and True One. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMxRr6K0qVM

          • Average_Joe56

            Night, night. Sweet dreams to you as well.
            I’ll probably hit the sack in a bit myself.
            Be safe in all that you do.

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            Keep up the good fight fellow patriot. It seems that smelly was kicked off of the site. Now it is so quiet. No messages saying someone responded to my postings, but it was only smelly. Oh well, good riddens. Here are 2 articles about planned parenthood and early abortionists. The two things all libturds and progturds like.

            http://www.lifenews.com/2013/10/18/not-just-margaret-sanger-racist-quotes-by-early-pro-abortion-activists/

            http://www.lifenews.com/2013/10/18/planned-parenthood-tells-teens-nothing-wrong-with-multiple-sex-partners/

            FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!

            You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot.

            “We have this day (4th of July) restored the Sovereign to whom all men ought to be obedient. He reigns in Heaven, and from the rising to the setting of the sun, let His Kingdom come.”

            Samuel Adams

          • Deerinwater

            you are right David ! not as fast but faster !

            “This isn’t an unusual analysis. You can see the numbers for yourself if you head to the Bureau of Economic Analysis’s GDP data and scroll through column 21 of table 1.1.2. It’s simply a fact that real government spending fell in three of President Obama’s first four years.

            That made me curious: How does government spending and investment during Obama’s first term compare to Ronald Reagan and George W. Bush’s first terms? The answer is poorly. Whereas total government spending dropped in 10 out of the 16 quarters that comprised Obama’s first term, it rose in 13 out of Reagan’s first 16 quarters, and 13 out of Bush’s first 16 quarters.

            http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2013/01/31/charts-what-if-obama-spent-like-reagan/

          • Deerinwater

            The truth, stings ~ doesn’t it? Like Ben says, numbers don’t lie. and I say ~correct, only people do.

          • Motov

            Who was in power of congress? It seems to my memory, that congress made up the spending bills, attaching anything that they wanted during those years.
            The POTUS either signed the entire “package” into law
            or if he did not like certain parts of the spending bill he would have to reject the entire thing.
            I recall Reagan saying “Give me line item veto” as a means to try to curb “Pork Barrel Politics”.
            Congress said no, they loved their pork, it ensured them re-election.

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            Real this, Deer.
            Government Spending in 2008 (Bush’s last year) — $2982 Billion.
            Government Spending in 2012 (Obama’s latest full year) — $3795 Billion.
            Even adjusted for inflation, using the Government’s own inflation calculator, the Obama Spending in 2012 was $550 Billion more than under Bush in 2008.
            And don’t give me the crap that the higher spending was due to policies set in place by Bush, because Obama could have changed that if he really wanted. Instead he saddled us with Obamacare which is going to balloon the Government Spending when it is fully in place.

        • Deerinwater

          You mean the interlopers?

    • mriv959

      Gotta have Republicans in the Party for it to be a Republican Victory..

  • http://batman-news.com samurai

    Its a beautiful day in the neighborhood, a beautiful day in the neighborhood, would you be mine? Could you be mine? The smell of roasting libturds and progturds is strong on this thread. There must be a bonfire on this thread. Keep up the good fight fellow patriots. No quarter! Here is an article about grenades, part of the weapons from the Fast and Furious nonsense, were used to kill police in Mexico.

    http://www.townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2013/10/18/grenades-atf-allowed-to-walk-into-mexico-used-against-police-n1727263?utm_source=thedailypm&utm_medium=email&utm_campaugn=nl_pm

    The death toll on Eric “Dead Agent” Holder’s watch continues to grow. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!

    You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot.

    “…if they would see America free and pure, they would make their own spirits free and pure by this baptism of the Holy Scriptures.”

    Woodrow Wilson
    28th President of the U.S.

    • JeffH

      Keep up the good fight fellow patriot! Take no quarter, give no quarter.

      GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!

      “You and I have a rendezvous with destiny. We will preserve for our children (America), the last best hope of man on earth, or we will sentence them to take the first step into a thousand years of darkness. If we fail, at least let our children and our children’s children say of us we justified our brief moment here. We did all that could be done.”
      — Ronald Reagan

      • http://batman-news.com samurai

        HHHHHooooorrrrraaaaahhhhh! Keep up the good fight fellow patriot. No quarter! Here is one about the job of the historian.
        “The office of historian is:

        1. To record the progress of human affairs as directed by the providence of God.

        2. To exhibit the connection of events, showing how an emmense series is produces as cause and effect.

        3. To display the character of man and of God.”

        Jedidiah Morse

        FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!

        You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot.

      • Bill

        Good comment Jeff

  • Deerinwater

    Correct Ben, numbers don’t lie , ~ but people that you place trust in the count will and do. And this is why the Tea party is doomed for failure for their misplaced trust and their strong desire to believe.The numbers are simply not there for them to dominated the GOP today or create their own party and be an effective contender on the nation stage.

    Regional popularity, certainly ~ National ? only in your dreams.

    All this vibrato is just tall talk after getting their nose blooded. Ted Cruz hurt you, ~ evidently more than you seem to know.

    But numbers don’t lie, nor do they tell the complete truth.

    • frankenbiker

      That being said, do you know how long it took the GOP to split from the Whig party? Decades, and you’re asking for the Tea Party to become a national party in just four years, with a population that is a hundred times what it was then? I don’t think so, but we are growing, and every indiscretion via the GOP, or democrat spending us into bankruptcy is getting us closer every year. Watch your back my friend, we are growing nationally.

      • Bob666

        Frankenbiker,

        You made a very interesting comment:

        “you’re asking for the Tea Party to become a national party in just four years? I don’t think so, but we are growing, and every indiscretion via the GOP, or democrat spending us into bankruptcy is getting us closer every year”.

        While I will agree with you that the Tea-Party has grown in a short time. The problem the Tea Party has is the same problem that all third parties have had in my life time. What starts out to be a good idea with well intended people soon attracts the lunatic fringe and becomes a side show.

        The two parties today are bought and paid for by special interest and rotten to the core. I would love to see a third party thrive, but it needs to focus on a specific agenda and lose the carnival appeal.

        • Average_Joe56

          Is the world spinning backwards? I had to asks…since you and I seem to be in agreement…..highly unusual…..but a welcome change.
          See, we aren’t as evil as previously thought….we can find common ground to stand upon….we just needed to be on the same map.

          • Bob666

            Yo Joe,

            I would say there is a great deal we have in common:

            Florida
            Construction Industry
            Successful Business Owners
            Smarter than the average bears
            Social liberals (kind-off)
            Physical Conservatives

            I am going on a limb for the following:

            Frustrated with DC
            Frustrated with the GOP
            Frustrated with the Democrats
            Scared of the mountain of national debt
            Believer in true liberty for all regardless of race,creed, color, religion, sexual orientation
            Supporter of the libertarian principals

            I don’t believe that you are evil, but like everyone here, you do take some cheap shots at people (my self included). BTW, I have been guilty of that my self and freely admit it. It is what we try to accomplish in life that counts.

            You just keep company with some unsavory people. Anyone who takes shots at a man or woman’s family lacks Morals, Ethics, Integrity & Character.

            One of the best lessons I learned as a child was in second grade. There was a kid stealing lunch money in the class room and Mrs. Smith (a fiery red head) told us; if you have a friend that steals from other people-they will eventually steal from you.

            People are not that complicated, in fact, they tend to be very predictable. Your presentation yesterday of the numbers regarding “Who’s better at running Congress”? was one of your better post.

          • Average_Joe56

            It looks as though we are in agreement yet again.
            I think that if you really check out the majority of my posts, you will see that 7 out of 10 times…I am simply trying to get people to supply something other than opinion into the conversation. After all, we all have our own opinions about the world around us ( based on individual experiences). However, when we make a claim about an issue, it only makes sense to provide evidence to support those claims. Unfortunately, too many people state their opinion but fail to support that opinion with factual evidence….That gets under my skin…especially when the same people keep doing so repeatedly.
            I rarely mince words and I say what I think….some people just don’t understand…that without reinforcement…their comments are simply…opinion pieces and hold no validity.
            I don’t know if it is because they watch the MSN’s 15 second sound bites and believe it without question, or if it is because they are just plain lazy. But, if they wish to be taken seriously, they must present a better, more sensible presentation.
            I think that we can both agree… that sometimes you really do have to call out someone who is being just plain stupid…for their own benefit. Just like crazy people don’t know they are crazy, Stupid people don’t realize that they are stupid….until enough people tell them so….even then, they still find it hard to accept.
            Thank you for a stimulating conversation…without the need to argue. It is very much appreciated.

          • Bob666

            Agreed.
            just food for thought, you draw more flies with honey, I say that to you because I saw you state that to Charlie one day and there is no one more crazy than him on this site.

          • Bob666

            Agreed.
            just food for thought, you draw more flies with honey, I say that to you because I saw you state that to Charlie one day and there is no one more crazy than him on this site.

          • Average_Joe56

            True, but unfortunately…some flies prefer poop over honey…just an observation.

          • Bob666

            one man’s poop is a nutcases honey!

          • Average_Joe56

            LOL!!

          • Average_Joe56

            The statement about what I said to Charlie is partially untrue.

            It struck me wrong when you stated that I said, “there is no one more crazy than him on this site” ( crazy isn’t a word that I normally use). So, I went back to find any posts to Charlie by me. I found two and only two.

            Charlie’s original post:

            “Bob ,,, thanks for your Scriptures ,,, but ,,, have you accomplished Acts 2:38 or Galatians 3:27??? Check out Ezekiel 3:18 ,, that’s part of My job… Also check out Luke 19:27 spoken by King Jesus Christ … How many people on this site may be in that group that King Jesus calls out at Luke 19:27???
            Does God like whiningly people ?? Check out what happened to some of the whiners under Moses leadership…
            T ODH , comment was a typical whine remark , that says nothing that most don’t know ,,, AND ,,,offers NO solution that has ever worked in past history of America or World history ,,, AND ,,, then T ODH has the gross disrespect to pick up on Your comment and bad mouth God and Me…
            Notice , King Jesus Christ , declares “War” at Matthew 10:34,,, I am in that “War” as most people are ,,, but ,,, most are so ignorant and naïve of “”The War”” because they are grossly unaware that they are unaware… SO? should I point at The War Manual of King Jesus Christ???
            Meanwhile … Praise King Jesus for Salvation and Healing… Acts 2:38 is salvation…”

            My first reply:
            “Charlie,
            The delivery of the message is just as important as the message itself (if not more so).
            Quite frankly, your delivery is less than stellar. When you attempt to “push” your views concerning theology on others, you do a disservice to both God and the Gospel.
            Your attitude is rather demeaning and you come off as being sacrosanct and above reproach. Shame on you!
            Pride…… is not a virtue.
            If you want to attract people to Christ, God and the Gospel, you may wish to consider changing your tactics and your heart.”

            Charlies reply:

            “Joe56 ,,, what you are into is the simple but complex Science of “Personality Clash” Psychology … How much education do you have in this “Science” ??? Notice , the Prophets of old days did NOT get along with many people, because they had some hard nose Truth info to deliver to some not so smart people… Well ,,, today there are only modern day “Prophets” , and their job is to point at Scriptures ,,, anyway they are “””Gifted””” with……………”

            ( To me, it appears that Charlie considers himself to be a “modern day prophet”)

            My Reply:

            “I certainly hope that you didn’t dislocate your shoulder…..while patting yourself on the back, Charlie.

            “Well ,,, today there are only modern day “Prophets” ,and their job is to point at Scriptures ,,, anyway they are “””Gifted”””

            Delusions of grandeur?. I’m not so sure about the gifted part…maybe you meant to say “special”? (as in short bus special, in your case). Seek professional help

            You aren’t scoring any points by being a condescending jerk….but, please continue…you have it down pat.”

            I did not accuse him of being more crazy than anyone on the site, but I did insinuate that he my be a bit mentally unstable.

            In my defense, even Bob Livingston had to reply to him on several occasions, concerning his diatribe.
            While looking through the posts, I did come across this though:

            “Bob666 > macgyver1948
            • 25 days ago
            Yo Mac,
            stepping into the Nut-case Charlie continuum again?”

            OK, apology accepted.

            http://personalliberty.com/2013/09/19/obama-con-man-or-madman/#comment-1053070215

          • Bob666

            Yo Joe,

            Here is what I recalled,

            “If you want to attract people to Christ, God and the Gospel, you may wish to consider changing your tactics and your heart.”

            The boy is a bit out there and like your statement above, he does not really attract people to follow his beliefs or spin on the gospel due to his approach.

            Personally, I avoid him because he is always trying to lead into a bible debate and that is not the reason most of us are here.

          • Average_Joe56

            My turn to apologize, when I read your post, I missed the word “and”, when you said, ” and there is no one more crazy than him on this site”. I misinterpreted what you said to mean that I said that about him…and I knew that I hadn’t said it.
            Again, my apologies.

          • Bob666

            No problem at all Joe

          • http://www.rt.com Alondra

            My Dear Friend,
            Please do not be deceived.

            Chameleons are changing their color not only to fit and to blend into their surroundings, but it also is as a visual signal of mood and aggression.

            But in this particular case it’s a psycho signal of the attitude/temper, mental state/condition.

            And do not forget that snakes are talking deceivingly sweet too (Genesis 3).

            BTW, snakes and chameleons, both belong to the class Reptilia.

            “Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits, whether they are of God” (1John)

            “What fellowship can LIGHT have with DARKNESS? 15 What harmony is there between Christ and Belial[b]? Or what does a BELIEVER have in common with an UNBELIEVER?” (2Cor.6:14, 15)

            P.S. Each word that comes out from that mouth is a LIE.

          • Average_Joe56

            I try to give everyone the benefit of doubt until they prove otherwise. Nobody agrees on 100% of the issues 100% of the time. When we can find common ground on any issue, it is a good thing and tends to make it easier to get an honest conversation going, thereby getting others to actually listen to our point of view. I am simply trying to reach across the divide and extend a hand of friendship and mutual interests . We must learn to walk, before we can run.

          • http://www.rt.com Alondra

            It’s NOT ABOUT a 100% agreement.

            “When we can find common ground on any issue, it is a good thing and tends to make it easier to get an honest conversation going”

            There can’t be “common ground” and an “honest conversation” with the chronic LIAR and DECEIVER with
            the PSYCHOPATHIC MANIA. And I know that for 101%.

            Each one is free to choose.

            But again what “mutual interests” and “What fellowship can LIGHT have with DARKNESS? What harmony is
            there between Christ and Belial?”

            When we are learning to walk we first have to check the
            direction.

            Sorry for my intrusive opinion, but it based on my professional knowledge.

          • Average_Joe56

            People can change if given the right incentive…I know, I was born and raised a Democrat…..I left that behind years ago. Communication and common ground is the key to change.

          • http://www.rt.com Alondra

            Yes, sir, people CAN change and people do change, but there is one condition: people’s willingness to change and commitment.

            You can’t repair marriage if only one party is willing and committed to and other party does not.

            There can’t be any communication when one party
            does not tolerate the convictions of the other party.

            I have NONE common ground with people like Karolyn who ALWAYS justifying UNJUSTIFIABLE, defending UNDEFENDABLE, supporting and advocating PERVERSION and DEGENERACY.

            There is NONE issue that I am agreed with her. By few people she was called “human predator” and rightly so. And yes, her name rightly attached to DEPRAVITY and STUPIDITY.

            Poster #1: “I know you as Karolyn on this website and what I’ve posted is the result of the impression of you that I’ve gotten from your comments. You may not like it, but It’s what I see and what I read in your comments.

            Poster #2: “Karolyn, for the longest time I was always under the impression that you were not too bright … But what i finally realized about you is that, you are one of the most intellectually-dishonest of posters on PLD.

            Poster #3: “Alondra, Karolyn says we are all brothers and sisters, yet she is always praising Planned-Parenthood for their unrelenting slaughter of the un-born.”

            Poster #4: “I’ve been reading your posts for well over 3 years, Karolyn. You don’t fool me one little bit. As far as I’m concerned, you may just be the most devious and cunning out of all the liberal-hyenas that pollute this good site. You promote anger, division and hostility; and unfortunately, we have no choice but to put up with the likes of you.”

            There are much, much more like that.
            And she is lying when she said to you: “people have been very instrumental in my changing views.”

            She is a LIAR. She NEVER changed HER views and still remain stupid and pervert.

            My Magic Book teaches me: ““Answer a fool ACCORDING to HIS folly, lest he be wise in his own eyes.” – King Solomon (Proverbs 26:5)

            And again there is NONE “common ground” between Light and Darkness, between MY Christ and HER Belial.

            “Woe unto them that CALL EVIL GOOD, and GOOD EVIL; that put DARKNESS for LIGHT, and LIGHT for DARKNESS; that put BITTER for SWEET, and SWEET for BITTER!” (Isaiah 5:20)

            “Silence in the face of evil is itself evil: God will not hold us guiltless. Not to speak is to speak. Not to act is to act.” – Dietrich Bonhoeffer

            “Between GOOD and EVIL there is no reconciliation.” – Alexander Soljenitsen

            We have what we have now it’s thatnks that “We have been silent witnesses of evil deeds.” – Dietrich Bonhoeffer

            I am NOT silent anymore; I am NOT Politically Correct anymore. NO ONE will silent me. And I will continue to expose Stupidity, Idiocy, Perversion, Depravity, Lies.

            Take care – Alondra

          • Bob666

            Yo Joe,

            I’m not going to put you into the middle of the pig pen on this issue.

            The lesson learned; Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty, but the pig likes it!

          • Average_Joe56

            Or……

            “Never try to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and it annoys the pig.”

          • Bob666

            Yea, the pig is annoyed!

          • Karolyn

            Thank you Joe for your rationality. So refreshing to see that you do believe there are issues that can be agreed upon. As I have said before, with some posters here, it doesn’t matter what I post, even if it is in agreement with a particular viewif, my name is attached to it, it is disregarded and negated if not downright attacked.

          • Average_Joe56

            The key to any rational dialog, is to try to find common ground to build upon and then to have the ability to realize that we are not always right.. and to be big enough to admit it.

          • Karolyn

            Amen! I remember when I first joined this party about 3 years ago; and I must admit I was wrong about some things I believed at that time. The people here have been very instrumental in my changing views. If we are not growing and changing, we remain as a rock. Instrumental in change is an open mind and really hearing what others have to say; and as you said, being big enough to admit one is wrong.

        • TheOriginalDaveH
          • Bob666

            I agree with you Dave-on this, I always have.

      • nc

        Frank> there is a limit to your “growth” if you continue to adhere to non-Democrat platform principals, like trying to force old white man thinking on abortion on the free thinking women! Plus, working to end the working public’s right to organize! Plus giving “Money” breaks to the wealthy and openly limiting what is apportioned to the care of the needy! All of these people vote and have voted as we built the greatest nation in history!
        The difference in the “results” of the 2010 election and the 2012 elections indicate your group slipped a little instead of growing! This last week’s fiasco didn’t help your effort any unless you just talk to yourself! The polls said not so good!
        Be careful of the “ignorant positions” that Jindal (R) said were killing you at the polls. Don’t think for a minute that the fact that 95% of the “people(?)” here agree with you that the general public is thinking the same way!

      • 010sonny

        Oh how shallow thy memory. While the Tea played their whining tactics of the pirates of 43. Nada a thing of issue was addressed. Which with the most dysfunctional congress in the USA history comes of no surprise.
        End is near for the beginning of a prohibition against the dysfunctional intoxicating Tea. Greece has already removed the immunity of their right wing extremist opening them up to criminalization, civil law suites, fines, etc. etc. for delivering their nation into chaos.
        Republican chasm continues to widen. Perhaps the established conservative republicans will finally emulate our for fathers of 1773 and cast out the dysfunctional Tea Party.
        Tea Rally back in April, Senator Ted Cruz {R Tea Party} of Texas, taunts the traditionalist republicans after the Senate rejects back ground checks on gun control bill. Cruz along with the all Tea Party members threatened to filibuster away this bill. Established conservative republican considered it more prudent and wiser to let it go to a vote. This would garnish a few democratic votes. Which is what eventually happened. Cruz considers republicans that choose that method of governmental as “Squishy”. Our way or the highway is all that is required. Wall Street Journal Editorial retweeted John McCain {R Traditionalist}; “ Would it have been right for us to not even debate, in light of the Newtown Massacre” Depth of chasm deepens.
        LOL and this never mentioned how 74% of the nation hold the GOP responsible for their callow congressional leadership that has just added $24 Billion to our national debt just so the could stamp their feet and whine with no substance or facts. LOL just as you do…
         
         
        Tea Rally back in April, Senator Ted Cruz {R Tea Party} of Texas, taunts the traditionalist republicans after the Senate rejects back ground checks on gun control bill. Cruz along with the all Tea Party members threatened to filibuster away this bill. Established conservative republican considered it more prudent and wiser to let it go to a vote. This would garnish a few democratic votes. Which is what eventually happened. Cruz considers republicans that choose that method of governmental as “Squishy”. Our way or the highway is all that is required. Wall Street Journal Editorial retweeted John McCain {R Traditionalist}; “ Would it have been right for us to not even debate, in light of the Newtown Massacre” Depth of chasm deepens.
        LOL and this never mentioned how 74% of the nation hold the GOP responsible for their callow congressional leadership that has just added $24 Billion to our national debt just so the could stamp their feet and whine with no substance or facts. LOL just as you do…
         
         

        • Barakolips

          Damn, you cant make a post without 18 paragraphs? Tea party is TAKING OVER and there is nothing you can do about it. Now make that 7 down arrows boot licker!

  • Deerinwater

    Like small children calling out mama, ~ you people evoke the name of the All Mighty with every other breath. ~ It’s absurd the way you take on so. ~

    You are not helping yourselves or your cause with this behavior. ~ depending on divine intervention and blind to the “numbers” will not save you.

    Only when you work to help yourself might you be found worthy of such help. And you are not doing that with your lynch mob mentality and bearing false witness. ~ For this transgression ,expect no reward for there will be none coming.

    A little God, goes a long way, Folks.

    • Average_Joe56

      A lot of God in your life…goes even farther.

      • 010sonny

        Which god are you referring to? Is the one that preaches what is to be and yet does not practice what is preached. Example does this god turn the other cheek when his opponent smitten the cheek? Does this forgive the trespasses of the devil, that was created by this god? Just to name a couple of examples of god in this book of yours does not practice what it preaches. Hmm could this book be of the devil? Leading all astray with false teachings? After all talking serpents? How about Adam and Eve sprouting children to perform incest! Is this the god you speak of?? Now back to reality from your never, never land of existence. Do try to focus it is Sunday after all…
        Chasm widens sucking in the right wing nuts and Teabaggers alike. Traditionalist conservatives are spitting out the poisonous Tea.
        Democrats and republican moderates have joined forces. Sweeping aside the Tea Party and the right wing nuts. In all places, Arizona! A previous bestial of the Tea Party.
        Between them both they actually came to a budget with bipartisan support. On June 13, 2013 Governor Jan Brewer {R} Led the way that will add over 300,000 of their uninsured citizens to the roles of the insured. Embracing the Obamacare Health Care Plan.
        Governor Jan Brewer gathered up her allies and repulsed themselves from the intoxicated Teabaggers and their minions. Carrying it so far as not to answerer any of the Tea and right wing nuts questions and shooting down any of their proposals.
        Obamacare exposed the rift that is growing into a chasm where the Tea and the right wing nuts are being pushed into.
        Their Senate President Andy Biggs {R} who was a staunch opponent to the Obamacare was swept aside. All these right wing nuts and the Teabaggers, had to say , was similar to what we find on these threads. Right wing nuts and Teabaggers, Constant redundant dysfunctional rhetoric and derogatory remarks. No substance or valid argument. Sputtering and babbling.. Now we know where these urchins get their cue’s from. Rushing Foxes with their Pied Piper’s melodies of “A La Propaganda.”
        The chasm widens..

        • frankenbiker

          No the book you follow Rules for Radicals is the devils book.

          • JeffH

            …which, by the way, is actually dedicated to “Lucifer”…go figure.

          • JeffH

            frankenbiker, stick around for awhile and keep putting the pressure of truth and morality on the backs of the ignorant libs/progressives and you’ll soon be getting the down votes too. Just look at your down votes for your Rules for Radicals comment.

            When they realize they can’t bully you they have no other recourse.

        • Average_Joe56

          The God of Abraham, I know of no other God.

          Political tags – such as royalist, communist, democrat, populist, fascist, liberal, conservative, and so forth – are never basic criteria. The human race divides politically into those who want people to be controlled and those who have no such desire.

          Robert A. Heinlein

          I guess we know which way you swing…..expect resistance.

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            True that! True that! Keep up the good fight fellow patriot. No quarter! Here is an article about freedom and responsibility.

            http://www.freedomoutpost.com/2013/10/great-freedom-comes-great-responsibility/

            FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!

            You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot.

            “Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.”

            John Adams

          • 010sonny

             
            Abraham? Hmmm. Was he not the one that had no problem with human sacrifice to please his deity. Same deity that required animals to be offered in various rituals for the their scent was most pleasing… Yeah we have a pretty good idea which way you swing. Thanks for that insight into your personnel existence. Your code of ethics I find wanting. Here is a small glimpse of my existence. After all you shared with me your deepest beliefs of how you conduct your analyst of life. As a Liberal I find your version limited in the appreciation of our humanities. Being a liberal however I await to be corrected, if there are facts to indicate an error has occurred.
            I’m liberal as you are not. So lets take a simple look at what I represent and what you represent.
            Liberal adj
            1. broad-minded: tolerant of different views and standards of behavior in others
            2. progressive politically or socially: favoring gradual reform, especially political reforms that extend democracy, distribute wealth more evenly, and protect the personal freedom of the individual
            3. generous: freely giving money, time, or some other asset
            My great-aunt was liberal in her bequests.
            4. generous in quantity: large in size or amount
            a liberal helping
            5. not literal: not limited to the literal meaning in translation or interpretation
            a liberal interpretation of the rules
            6. culturally oriented: concerned with general cultural matters and broadening of the mind rather than professional or technical study
            a liberal education
            7. of political liberalism: relating to a political ideology of liberalism
             
            n (plural lib·er·als)
            liberal person: somebody who favors tolerance or open-mindedness
             
            [14th century. Via French < Latin liberalis < liber "free"]
            Word Key: Synonyms
            See generous.
            Encarta ® World English Dictionary © & (P) 1998-2005 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.
            Now to define your state of existence we just have to access the acronyms of these definitions. For example “Broad Minded” acronym “Closed Minded”
            “ tolerant of different views and standards of behavior in others”. Acronym; Intolerant of the views of others and standards of behavior in others. LOL That sure sounds like a BIGOT to me. Now think you can do the rest all by yourself and expose yourself as to what you really are… Admire Churchill do yee?
            “The inherent vice of capitalism is the unequal sharing of blessings; the inherent virtue of socialism is the equal sharing of miseries. The truth is incontrovertible, malice may attack it, ignorance may deride it, but in the end; there it is.” Winston Churchill. LOL sounds like a liberal…
             

          • janna

            010sonny
            would you mind if I add to it
            the right of every human being to have
            A a roof over your head
            B food on the table
            C clothes on your body
            D good education
            E good healthcare
            F the freedom of choice to be who you are
            after that by all means bring on Capitalism
            I hope not to have been to presumptuous

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            Yes, they do. But, you are not entitled to anything you don’t earn. Our Christian founding fathers wanted Americans to be self reliant, personally responsible, and have the vigilance to ensure that government remains our servants and not our masters. You are the opposite of what they wanted, ergo, not a patriot. Here is an article that describes the priorities of Obama bin Laden.

            http://www.godfatherpolitics.com/12942/obamas-top-priorities-good-democratic-votes-economy/

            Socialism is not what this country was based on. It was based on God, Christian beliefs, free markets, guns, and gold. Now go and learn what that means. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!

            You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot. This leaves you out.

            “The Bible is worth more than all the other books ever printed.”

            Patrick Henry

          • Patriot_Dave

            OH Yes…G.O.D. Gold, OIL and Destruction…. “The Bible is worthless in the hands of the ignorant as it alone cannot impart intellect, that ‘ability’ must be innate it bears fruit through education!!” The true gifts of the Creator are the capacity for intellect and wisdom….. without either, human endeavors are only a speck of dust in the wind… With both there is Hope…. With Hope there are Actions… With Actions there are Successes… With Successes there is PROGRESS….. With PROGRESS WE ALL LIVE Better than the those before us…. Put YOUR ‘Parroting’ away and gain some intellect….

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            No response possible due to lack of intellectual content by Dave. Go back and study our Christian founding fathers more than you have and stop going by what your libturd, progturd, socialist, communist professors said. I did and I’m glad I did. For it seems that I know more than you do on this subject. Now go study, learn, and stop wasting our time with your unfounded rants you troll. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
            You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot. This leaves you out.

          • Bob666

            Sammy,
            Several months ago, you suggest that If i did not agree with the content of someones post, that maybe I should go to the next post and move on?

            Should that not apply to you as well?

          • Patriot_Dave

            LOL a TROLL!!! Oh How I love the ad Hominem attacks when the far right can’t think their way out of a corner…. You only seem to know what you have read in just one book…AND BTW…If it is the ‘Book’ I’m thinking of…It is nothing more than a historically proven plagiarized rendition of letters written well after the facts and when the Council of Nicea got done with tossing out all of the ‘letters’ (aka ‘BOOKS’) that would make the RULERS uncomfortable it was ONLY published to a select few….
            And to this day so many of you seem to take it literally just because you are, in fact, not even smart enough to know you shouldn’t…….

            It still takes a some amount of intellect to be a Conservative….

            Your rants prove only that you don’t understand…..

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            Another argument to ridicule. What you said about the Bible is nothing but lies. Here are a few articles about libturds, progturds, and Obama bin Laden.

            http://www.lastresistance.com/3448/liberalism-house-without-walls/

            http://www.lastresistance.com/3444/dear-government-democrats-letter-beloved/

            http://www.lastresistance.com/3439/obamacare-mental-illness-gun-confiscation/

            It seems that your pretender is insane, libturdism is a farce, and your ilk believe in making Americans lazy. Just like you are, I’ll bet. Let’s keep this country a Christian nation, founded on Christian principles that is. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!

            You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot. This leave you out traitor.

            “Those who are not ruled by God, will be ruled by tyrants.”

            William Penn
            Founder of Pennsylvania
            Devout Christian

          • Patriot_Dave

            Another ‘argument to ridicule’ he says…. You carry on nonsensically while denying the facts and decry reality while attempting to proclaim a fetid ideology and that’s your response? It’s a shame you suffer from the same malady as what you claim that the “liberals” do… You present a mind filled with wishful thinking, terse commentary and shameless demagoguery as you attempt to deal with FACTS…. It’s Ok Sammie…you will eventually grow out of this…. Conspiratorial fantasies usually give way to critical thinking, grasping the true nature of reality, the infinite wonders of the cosmos and of the Creator… If you choose to not investigate with an open mind, I’m sure there will always be the few out there that will listen intently to your parroting…..
            I am not your enemy…. I am not attacking YOU…. I am only pointing out the folly of the ways that you are so intent upon regurgitating….. I am not asking you to become a ‘liberal’ or a ‘progressive’ but to educate yourself…to raise yourself up out of this hate inspired cesspool of mindless rhetoric…
            Liberate your MIND…..
            Take the Blinders OFF….

            The battle for OUR Republic is between Freedom and Tyranny….

          • Average_Joe56

            Yes, liberals are tolerant…as long as you agree with them.
            Yes, liberals are generous… with other peoples money.
            Yes, you are a socialist….and a thief!
            Yes, you are getting good at copying and pasting other people’s words…try getting an original thought…..one of your own….thief!
            How proud your parents must be…….not!

        • Jana

          Consider the source. Another forked tongue!

          • 010sonny

            Hum you Injun? Forked tongue? LOL Is this what you mean?
            Senator Mitch McConnell of KY. {R} assures us their will be no further shutdown or shake down of the USA by his party. He is confident that the Tea party will be subdued and brought under control. Kind of like $24 Billion late there Mitch.
            Tea continuously expressing desires for reducing debt while all the while they have had the taxpayers pay for their latest callow scene of the pirates of 43.
            Now Ted Cruz Tea {R} of Texas defies his leaders and demands for his pirates to hold steady. Victory is within site, in spite of our fellow republican mates that turn against us, we will triumph.
            Stage is set for Feb.7, 2014 for the next resurrection of the rebellious pirates to stage their next scene on the world stage.
            China finds opportunity in the American’s continuous, cycle of dysfunctional financial security to the dollar. Offering a suggestion that the global currency NOT be held to the U.S. Dollar any further and another with more stability, in their sovereignty, replace the U.S.A.’s Dollar.
            Playing into the Tea Party hands of demanding for a smaller government. Hand over our leadership in world affaires and go back to the porch and find us a rocking chair. Surrounded by our old faithful hound dog with our musket near at hand. Within spitting distance to the spittoon, what more could one ask for. Perhaps a mug of ice Tea to sooth the days heat, as we observe our ever growing neighbors gobble up our ingenuity and liberties that we can no longer compete with.
            Ah yes the Tea’s American dream.
            Come 2014 do not falter nor delay your vote for More Tea or Not.
            A variety of flavors will be displayed for your consumption, Marco Rubio of Florida with that Latin fragrance, Ted Cruz of Texas with his mongrel musty fragrance and Rand Paul of Kentucky with his fragrant apple pie, simmering on a kitchen window sill. cooling in the late afternoon . How can one resist such Teafull delicacies?
              

          • Jana

            No Comrade 010sonny, I am referring to your lying tongue. You are showing us all what a true little communist stands for. Godlessness and lying.

            I agree with Samurai 200%!!! To go any further with you would be

            Matt 7:6

            6 Give not that which is holy to dogs; neither cast ye your pearls before swine.

        • http://batman-news.com samurai

          No response possible due to lack of intellectual content. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
          You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot.

          • 010sonny

            This fetish you have for god does not make you or anyone a patriot. Observe how history produces an abnormality to your theory of god being patriotic.
            Consider WW I both sides of the war claimed the same god was on their side as did they during WW II. That’s is just a couple of examples of this patriotism of god. Kind of wishy washy nonsense derived by callow individuals seeking justification to cast aside all laws within their godly books teachings.
            Love of country? Love is at best an abstract term. Most times eluding to some degree of tolerance. Emotional display due to chemical reactions of mating. Stuff like that. Rat a tat of the drum and bugle core summing up with pride and promises of glory, and off to war you go.
            That does not make for a patriot. Just another universal solider in the making. Universal soldiers arise to the call and the survivors of their conflicts salvage what they can and reconstruct as the universal solider awaits for the next call to glory.
            I do have a respect for this democracy and the integrity of various individuals to continue this process that was initiated a couple of hundred years ago. AND yes I did serve as a universal solider at one time for the USA. Does that make me a patriot? Hmmm….

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            First, we are a republic and not a democracy. Second, if you did serve with the military, I’ll say thanks for your service. Third, knock off the scientific mumbo jumbo. Fourth, You say love of country is some tolerance thing? Remember the words of Aristotle:
            “Tolerance is the final virtue of a dying society.”
            Though our country is in bad shape, but it isn’t dead yet. Fifth, you are no patriot. A person who supports the growing size of government, Obama bin Laden, and anything against our Constitution and Christian founding fathers, is not in any way a patriot. Sixth, mating has nothing to do with it Sigmund Frued. Now go home before your mommy notices you missing. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
            You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot. This leaves you out.

          • Patriot_Dave

            Our founding FATHERS were NOT ALL Christian… History is ONLY useful as long as it is FACTUAL…. Thank YOU!!!!

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            That is a bald faced lie and have proven this over the last 3 of 4.5 years on this site. This is a fact that they were Christian and no other faith. Now stop lying and go home. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
            You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot. This leaves you out.

          • Bob666

            Sammy,

            With all due respect sir, you have not proven anything. You have given your interpretation and opinion, but no actual facts to back that up.

            ” Now stop lying and go home”

            Do we need to visit the first amendment?

            “You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot. This leaves you out”.

            And that is another example of an opinion, not a fact and tends offend people.

          • Patriot_Dave

            From Wiki….Thomas Jefferson and religion……

            Jefferson’s religious and spiritual beliefs were a combination of various religious and theological precepts. Around 1764, Jefferson had lost faith in conventional religion, after he had tested the Bible for historical accuracy, rather he adopted a stern code of personal moral conduct and drew inspiration from classical literature.[241] While he embraced various Christian principles he rejected most of the orthodox Christianity of his day and was especially hostile to the Catholic Church as he saw it operate in France. Throughout his life Jefferson was intensely interested in theology, biblical study, and morality. As a landowner he played a role in governing his local Episcopal Church; in terms of belief he was inclined toward Deism and the moral philosophy of Christianity, though when he was home he attended the Episcopal church and raised his daughters in that faith.[1][242]

            In a private letter to Benjamin Rush, Jefferson refers to himself as “Christian” (1803): “To the corruptions of Christianity I am, indeed, opposed; but not to the genuine precepts of Jesus himself. I am a Christian, in the only sense in which he wished any one to be; sincerely attached to his doctrines, in preference to all others; ascribing to himself every human excellence…”[243] In a letter to his close friend William Short, Jefferson clarified, “it is not to be understood that I am with him [Jesus] in all his doctrines. I am a Materialist; he takes the side of Spiritualism; he preaches the efficacy of repentance toward forgiveness of sin; I require a counterpoise of good works to redeem it. Among the sayings and discourses imputed to him by his biographers, I find many passages of fine imagination, correct morality, and of the most lovely benevolence; and others, again, of so much ignorance, of so much absurdity, so much untruth, charlatanism and imposture, as to pronounce it impossible that such contradictions should have proceeded from the same being.”[244]

            Jefferson praised the morality of Jesus and edited a compilation of his teachings, omitting the miracles and supernatural elements of the biblical account, titling it The Life and Morals of Jesus of Nazareth.[245] Jefferson was firmly anticlerical saying that in “every country and every age, the priest has been hostile to liberty. He is always in alliance with the despot…they have perverted the purest religion ever preached to man into mystery and jargon, unintelligible to all mankind, and therefore the safer for their purposes.”[246]

            Jefferson rejected the idea of immaterial beings and considered the idea of an immaterial Creator a heresy introduced into Christianity. In a letter to John Adams, Jefferson wrote that to “talk of immaterial existences is to talk of nothings. . . . At what age of the Christian church this heresy of immaterialism, this masked atheism, crept in, I do not know. But a heresy it certainly is. Jesus taught nothing of it. He told us indeed that ‘God is a spirit,’ but he has not defined what a spirit is, nor said that it is not matter. And the ancient fathers generally, if not universally, held it to be matter: light and thin indeed, an etherial gas; but still matter.”[247]

            In 1777, Jefferson drafted Virginia’s An Act of Establishing Religious Freedom.[248] Submitted in 1779, the Act was finally ratified in 1786 by the Virginia legislature.[248] The Act forbid that men be forcibly compelled to attend or donate money to religious establishments, and that men “shall be free to profess, and by argument to maintain, their opinions in matters of religion.”[249] Jefferson initially supported restrictions banning clergy from holding public office, however, later in life he changed this view believing the clergy had the same rights as others to hold public office.[250]

            From Forbes:

            As historian John Fea notes, “If the Treaty of Tripoli is correct, and the United States was not ‘founded on the Christian religion,’ then someone forgot to tell the American people… The idea that the United States is a ‘Christian nation,’ has always been central to American identity.” But debate rages over whether the Founders were Deists and why the Constitution bears no mention of God.

            Wiki: Thomas Paine
            (February 9, 1737 [O.S. January 29, 1736][Note 1][Note 2][Note 3] – June 8, 1809) was an English-American political activist, author, political theorist and revolutionary. As the author of two highly influential pamphlets at the start of the American Revolution, he inspired the Patriots in 1776 to declare independence from Britain.[1] His ideas reflected Enlightenment era rhetoric of transnational human rights.[2] He has been called “a corset maker by trade, a journalist by profession, and a propagandist by inclination”.[3]

            Born in Thetford, England, in the county of Norfolk, Paine emigrated to the British American colonies in 1774 with the help of Benjamin Franklin and he arrived in time to participate in the American Revolution. His principal contributions were the powerful, widely read pamphlet Common Sense (1776), the all-time best-selling American book that advocated colonial America’s independence from the Kingdom of Great Britain, and The American Crisis (1776–83), a pro-revolutionary pamphlet series. Common Sense was so influential that John Adams said, “Without the pen of the author of Common Sense, the sword of Washington would have been raised in vain.”[4]

            Paine lived in France for most of the 1790s, becoming deeply involved in the French Revolution. He wrote the Rights of Man (1791), in part a defence of the French Revolution against its critics. His attacks on British writer Edmund Burke led toa trial and conviction in absentia in 1792 for the crime of seditious libel. In 1792, despite not being able to speak French, he was elected to the French National Convention. The Girondists regarded him as an ally. Consequently, theMontagnards, especially Robespierre, regarded him as an enemy.

            In December 1793, he was arrested and imprisoned in Paris, then released in 1794. He became notorious because of The Age of Reason (1793–94), his book that advocates deism, promotes reason and freethinking, and argues against institutionalized religion in general and Christian doctrine in particular. He also wrote the pamphlet Agrarian Justice (1795), discussing the origins of property, and introduced the concept of a guaranteed minimum income. In 1802, he returned to America where he died on June 8, 1809. Only six people attended his funeral as he had been ostracized for his ridicule of Christianity.[5]

            YEAH RIGHT….

        • Robert Messmer

          Really, Bernard? Accusing the Tea Party of derogatory remarks? When you constantly use the refrain of ” right wing nuts and Teabaggers”. So explain the claim of bipartisan support when according to you they “Carrying it so far as not to answerer any of the Tea and right wing nuts questions and shooting down any of their proposals.” Regardless of your opinion they were there because they were elected. In other words, citizens of the state voted for them because they (the citizens) wanted them (your so-called right wing nuts) to represent them. How so very Democratic to not even answer questions and to shoot down any proposals that didn’t give the Government exactly everything it wanted even if it works to the detriment of the public.

      • http://batman-news.com samurai

        Well said and keep up the good fight fellow patriot. No quarter! Here is an article about how Obama bin Laden knew his healthcare crap would fail.

        http://www.patriotupdate.com/2013/10/obama-administration-knew-healthcare-gov-fail/

        FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!

        You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot.

        “Whatever makes men good Christians makes them good citizens.”

        Daniel Webster
        U.S. Senator
        Secretary of State
        “Defender of the Constitution”
        Devout Christian

    • 010sonny

      These factions of the right wing attract the fanatics of various biases. Many with little to no education beyond a book or two and the rest filled with Foxy Tabloid comic book facts. Examine them as the followers of such leadership that requires their subjects to remain naïve to reality. History has demonstrated many time over the fate of this demonizing ideology. Often time referred to them as the “Herd”…
      Time to paint ourselves as the Indians of 1773 and run down to the voting booths this 2014 and cast out the Tea. Out unto the waters of political oblivion. Republicans of sound mind and integrity will help us in that endeavor.
      Senator Susan Collins {R Traditionalist} of Main, “finds it baffling that it’s a small minority of our caucus, that is holding up going to conference, when our party for years, has argued that we need to have a budget. Without a House conference we can’t possibly complete action on it.”
      Senator Marco Rubio {R Tea Party} of Florida argues that we should continue to support the ideology that ONE Senator can have the power to hold the USA Hostage and Ransom it off to what that Senator desires.
      Democrats counter with the need of raising the debt ceiling to cover the cost of the Congresses’ expenditures. Republicans inability to produce a bill for a budget, mandates this process of hand to mouth budgeting scenarios. Ideologies of the Tea Party pirates lurking in the shadows . “Our Way Or The Highway reverberating through our Congressional Sacred Hallways.
       
       
      Time to paint ourselves as the Indians of 1773 and run down to the voting booths this 2014 and cast out the Tea. Out unto the waters of political oblivion. Republicans of sound mind and integrity will help us in that endeavor.
      Senator Susan Collins {R Traditionalist} of Main, “finds it baffling that it’s a small minority of our caucus, that is holding up going to conference, when our party for years, has argued that we need to have a budget. Without a House conference we can’t possibly complete action on it.”
      Senator Marco Rubio {R Tea Party} of Florida argues that we should continue to support the ideology that ONE Senator can have the power to hold the USA Hostage and Ransom it off to what that Senator desires.
      Democrats counter with the need of raising the debt ceiling to cover the cost of the Congresses’ expenditures. Republicans inability to produce a bill for a budget, mandates this process of hand to mouth budgeting scenarios. Ideologies of the Tea Party pirates lurking in the shadows . “Our Way Or The Highway reverberating through our Congressional Sacred Hallways.
       
       

      • http://batman-news.com samurai

        No response possible due to lack of intellectual content. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
        You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot. This leaves you out.

      • S.C.Murf

        Sounds a lot like galt, you starting to hear voices?

        up the hill
        airborne

  • 010sonny

    On the front lines of Obamacare we can examine the benefits of its expansion. Far from full steam ahead and yet the consequences to the republicans is deactivating their strengths of unity.
    Observe the republican Tea stronghold of Kentucky. Here under the intelligent leadership of their democratic governor, Steven L. Beshear already over 34,000 have applied for Obamacare with 11,000 secured knowing they can now have Health Care Insurance that they can AFFORD that the fear mongering tactics of the republicans are nothing more than dust in the wind. This since Oct. First ! Now imagine they still have until March 31st to sign up!
    Looks like the voters are not as red as their false republican leaders want us to believe. Governor Beshear is an example of a strong fortified leader of integrity. Unlike his republican associates such as Rand Paul or Mitch McConnell to name a couple. Two who have sought to divide and destroy this nation unless we pay their ransom.
    Here is how Governor Beshear sums it up as a true leader of his constituents;
    . “You don’t have to like the president; you don’t have to like me. Because this isn’t about him, and it’s not about me. It’s about you, your family and your children. So do yourself a favor. Find what you can get for yourself. You’re going to like what you find” Notice the difference? Republicans are all about ME, ME, ME, Give Me, Give Me, blah, blah, blah.Kentucky is the proud Southern state to say they are the FIRST to expand Medicaid to their constituents. The rest of the southern states are as usual in their quagmire of ill leadership. Lacking intelligence and integrity. Betting that they can keep their constituents ignorant of Obamacare long enough to get their vote one more time before they are exposed for the frauds that they are.
    Jessie Benton, campaign manager for Mitch McConnell, is an excellent example of this hyped up fear mongering tactics of the RED’s. Observe his callow take on the wave of people that are not buying his fear mongering ways as he takes it a step up when he says; “Kentuckians are suspicious and deeply concerned about Obamacare, Any Democrat running in Kentucky in 2014 is going to be in a box: stand against your base, or endorse a policy that’s very unpopular and not working well.” “Kentuckians are suspicious and deeply concerned about Obamacare, Any Democrat running in Kentucky in 2014 is going to be in a box: stand against your base, or endorse a policy that’s very unpopular and not working well.” LOL when he knows there is that hurdle of the last showdown that the republicans failed at with a disapproval ratings by 74% of the nation holding them directly responsible for juvenile leadership with damaging consequences to our nation. Last estimated cost of damage is another $24 Billion increase to the national debt. AND they are so worried about the debt. Yeah Sure !
    “To me this was a moral decision,” he said. “We’ve got 640,000 Kentuckians who don’t have access to any kind of affordable health care. The last ranking I saw, we’re 44th out of 50 in health status. You take any chronic disease or condition — heart disease, cancer, smoking, obesity, you name it — and we’re either the worst or close to the worst.” Here is a leader that is truly concerned for the failing state of affaires that the RED’s have infested his state with.
    A State Commissioned Study on Governor Beshear expanded Medicaid financial strategy will reap $15.6 Billion and ad over 17,000 new jobs.
    Of course republicans will demonize it, for after all, they are for the increasing wealth to their 1% lords and masters.
    Governor foresees what lays in store for the weak democrats and republicans; “Most of these critics are going to end up with egg on their face,” the governor predicted. “People are finding that I can get health insurance for the first time in my life that I can afford. They’re going to look back at these folks after all the dust settles and say, ‘You misled us.’ ” Has the fragrance of an F.D.R. statement, don’t you think?
    2014 becoming up ladies and gentlemen. Lets voice our disapproval of these failing republicans with our vote of disdain for losers…
      
     
     
      
    “To me this was a moral decision,” he said. “We’ve got 640,000 Kentuckians who don’t have access to any kind of affordable health care. The last ranking I saw, we’re 44th out of 50 in health status. You take any chronic disease or condition — heart disease, cancer, smoking, obesity, you name it — and we’re either the worst or close to the worst.” Here is a leader that is truly concerned for the failing state of affaires that the RED’s have infested his state with.
    A State Commissioned Study on Governor Beshear expanded Medicaid financial strategy will reap $15.6 Billion and ad over 17,000 new jobs.
    Of course republicans will demonize it, for after all, they are for the increasing wealth to their 1% lords and masters.
    Governor foresees what lays in store for the weak democrats and republicans; “Most of these critics are going to end up with egg on their face,” the governor predicted. “People are finding that I can get health insurance for the first time in my life that I can afford. They’re going to look back at these folks after all the dust settles and say, ‘You misled us.’ ” Has the fragrance of an F.D.R. statement, don’t you think?
    2014 becoming up ladies and gentlemen. Lets voice our disapproval of these failing republicans with our vote of disdain for losers…
      
     
     
      

    • Average_Joe56

      Thanks for the laugh!

      Morals — all correct moral laws — derive from the instinct to survive. Moral behavior is survival behavior above the individual level.
      Correct morality can only be derived from what man is — not from what do-gooders and well-meaning aunt Nellies would like him to be.
      Robert A. Heinlein

      There is no worse tyranny than to force a man to pay for what he does not want merely because you think it would be good for him.
      Robert A. Heinlein

      Mighty little force is needed to control a man whose mind has been hoodwinked; contrariwise, no amount of force can control a free man, a man whose mind is free. No, not the rack, not fission bombs, not anything — you can’t conquer a free man; the most you can do is kill him.
      Robert A. Heinlein

      I do not consent; and I waive the benefit….I will not be participating in the ACA… I will not be signing up and not one penny from my pockets shall flow.

    • http://batman-news.com samurai

      OMG! What is your mental malfunction? Here are 2 articles about Obama bin Laden and Rachel Maddow.

      http://www.westernjournalism.com/obama-behind-muslim-brotherhood-caliphate-conspiracy/

      http://www.westernjournalism.com/msnbc-caught-framing-veterans-d-c-edited-video/

      Here is some good news of a mother defeating the libturds/progturds and her God-given rights of freedom of religion and speech.

      http://www.westernjournalism.com/christian-mom-scores-victory-school-banned-daughters-god-assignment/

      Another victory against the libturds and progturds. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!

      You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot. This leaves you out.

      “Sometimes by looking back, you can see a clearer path to what lies ahead.”

      Samurai

    • Robert Messmer

      As for misleading, yes you did. They do not have until March 31st to sign up, they really only have until about the 15th of February. And based on your statement, even in Kentucky with what you claim to be intelligent leadership, 23,000 did not find affordable health care. Three years from now when Kentucky has to shoulder the COMPLETE burden of the expanded Medicaid since the Feds are only funding part of it for a very short time, I suppose if they are still under Democrat control then Kentucky will pull a Detroit. How is it all about Republican wanting ME, ME, ME when they tried to get the individual mandate delayed for 1 year–the same that Obama did for business, to get Congress and the President to pay for their own care instead of sticking the taxpayers with it, to try to get some cuts to the budget? Sounds more like they were trying to do something for the country other than force another huge government program on them. A state study found the governor did good–WOW WHAT a surprize! Not, of course a study set up be the governor was going to say he did good.

    • Barakolips

      Your blathering rambling posts are accomplishing nothing but more down arrows here! Go to huffington post, they might take you in!

  • 010sonny

    Obama’s empathy for our nation has been demonstrated numerous times. That’s why republicans have labeled him as Obamacare. Now he is going to gather up the Tea and cast it out unto the waters of oblivion with the traditionalist republicans help.
    Fortunately there is hope and it is being demonstrated, more and more every day, with the moderate republicans and the intellectuals of the party that are distancing themselves from the dysfunctional “Ideologues” of their party. Obama has aided them with his brilliance. A Tea bulwark has fallen.
    Obamacare drives a wedge, fracturing republican party. Phoenix Arizona’s Governor Jan Brewer pulled off a major coup by distancing herself, along with a few staunch republican state senators, from their extremist elements within their party. Rallying the support by emphasizing “Moral and Monetarily Correct”. Stating “It’s pro-life, it’s saving lives, it is creating jobs, it is saving hospitals,” and “I don’t know how you can get any more conservative than that,” Typical of the intoxicated Tea Party’s strategy. Derogatory remarks are let loose with no substance to any issue for debate. Going so far as to invoke some religious sniping by A.J LaFaro chairman of the Maricopa County Republican Committee, comparing Jan Brewer to Judas! Libertarian blog post by Tyler S. Boyer on the “Freedom Works” site, refers to Jan as “An unfortunate display of ineptitude.” Derogatory continues to surface from the right wing extremist. Reagan once said” Republicans should not speak ill of one another” Something the extremist have ignored, as they have demonstrated on various issues, ignoring supporting their constituents for some personal ego political ploy. Ignoring the facts that voters agreed, in 1996 and in 2000, to extend Medicaid coverage to childless adults, one of the main beneficiaries of the Medicaid expansion. that voters agreed, in 1996 and in 2000, to extend Medicaid coverage to childless adults, one of the main beneficiaries of the Medicaid expansion. Mr. Coughlin states “Ideologues have their agendas” Mr. Coughlin goes on to say “and the part of the party that’s taking issue with the governor right now is all made up of ideologues”! “and the part of the party that’s taking issue with the governor right now is all made up of ideologues”! Moderate republicans will be required to expand their platforms to educate their constituents of the fallacies of the zealot extremist policies. Focusing on the more intelligent groups within their spheres such as women and independents.
    Bruce Merrill, political behaviorist senior research at Morrison Institute for Public Policy of the Arizona University states “how truly fractured the Republican Party in Arizona is.” expressly due to Obamacare. “how truly fractured the Republican Party in Arizona is.” expressly due to Obamacare.
    “The real brilliance of Barack Obama when he made Medicaid an all-or-nothing proposition,” giving states no option but to cover individuals with incomes up to 133 percent of the federal poverty line if they were to qualify for federal reimbursement, “was that he pitted fiscally conservative Republicans against one another,” he said.
    Governor Jan Brewer views it as merely bruised egos that will heal with time. “Nobody likes to lose, and that’s what happened”. AND this is but one example of many.
    Tea will not be served…. Out of service… 
     
     
     
      
     
      
    Obama’s empathy for our nation has been demonstrated numerous times. That’s why republicans have labeled him as Obamacare. Now he is going to gather up the Tea and cast it out unto the waters of oblivion with the traditionalist republicans help.
    Fortunately there is hope and it is being demonstrated, more and more every day, with the moderate republicans and the intellectuals of the party that are distancing themselves from the dysfunctional “Ideologues” of their party. Obama has aided them with his brilliance. A Tea bulwark has fallen.
    Obamacare drives a wedge, fracturing republican party. Phoenix Arizona’s Governor Jan Brewer pulled off a major coup by distancing herself, along with a few staunch republican state senators, from their extremist elements within their party. Rallying the support by emphasizing “Moral and Monetarily Correct”. Stating “It’s pro-life, it’s saving lives, it is creating jobs, it is saving hospitals,” and “I don’t know how you can get any more conservative than that,” Typical of the intoxicated Tea Party’s strategy. Derogatory remarks are let loose with no substance to any issue for debate. Going so far as to invoke some religious sniping by A.J LaFaro chairman of the Maricopa County Republican Committee, comparing Jan Brewer to Judas! Libertarian blog post by Tyler S. Boyer on the “Freedom Works” site, refers to Jan as “An unfortunate display of ineptitude.” Derogatory continues to surface from the right wing extremist. Reagan once said” Republicans should not speak ill of one another” Something the extremist have ignored, as they have demonstrated on various issues, ignoring supporting their constituents for some personal ego political ploy. Ignoring the facts that voters agreed, in 1996 and in 2000, to extend Medicaid coverage to childless adults, one of the main beneficiaries of the Medicaid expansion. that voters agreed, in 1996 and in 2000, to extend Medicaid coverage to childless adults, one of the main beneficiaries of the Medicaid expansion. Mr. Coughlin states “Ideologues have their agendas” Mr. Coughlin goes on to say “and the part of the party that’s taking issue with the governor right now is all made up of ideologues”! “and the part of the party that’s taking issue with the governor right now is all made up of ideologues”! Moderate republicans will be required to expand their platforms to educate their constituents of the fallacies of the zealot extremist policies. Focusing on the more intelligent groups within their spheres such as women and independents.
    Bruce Merrill, political behaviorist senior research at Morrison Institute for Public Policy of the Arizona University states “how truly fractured the Republican Party in Arizona is.” expressly due to Obamacare. “how truly fractured the Republican Party in Arizona is.” expressly due to Obamacare.
    “The real brilliance of Barack Obama when he made Medicaid an all-or-nothing proposition,” giving states no option but to cover individuals with incomes up to 133 percent of the federal poverty line if they were to qualify for federal reimbursement, “was that he pitted fiscally conservative Republicans against one another,” he said.
    Governor Jan Brewer views it as merely bruised egos that will heal with time. “Nobody likes to lose, and that’s what happened”. AND this is but one example of many.
    Tea will not be served…. Out of service… 
     
     
     
      
     
      
     
      

    • Average_Joe56

      You may wish to give credit to the person or persons who wrote the diatribe that you’ve copied and pasted…it is obvious that you don’t have the intelligence needed to have written that diatribe.
      A bit of honesty should be forthcoming…..even if it is out of character for the liberal mind.
      Game, set, match!

    • http://batman-news.com samurai

      Sheesh! Did you really have to post it twice? If it was nonsense the first time, why did you post it again? It even seems that you are willing to back yp the Godless party and the party of infanticide. This must contribute to your obvious lack of knowledge and ridiculous attitude. Here are some articles that deal with abortion. Obama bin Laden filibustered for partial birth abortions when he was an Illinois state senator.

      http://www.lifenews.com/2013/10/20/planned-parenthood-at-97-years-6300000-babies-aborted-billions-in-profit/

      http://www.lifenews.com/2013/10/20/catholic-santa-clara-university-drops-abortion-coverage-for-faculty-and-staff/

      http://www.lifenews.com/2013/10/20/pastor-mark-driscoll-science-and-scripture-make-it-clear-abortion-is-murder/

      FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!

      You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot. This leaves you out.

      “The fool hath said there is no God within his own heart.”

      Psalms 14:1
      Psalms 53:1

    • Robert Messmer

      OK Bernard, same post gets same response.

      “Obama’s empathy for our nation has been demonstrated numerous times” Yes it has such as when he gave guns to Mexican Drug Cartels. Armed international terrorists. Supports Muslim Brotherhood, which wants to kill us. Told WWII vets No you can not visit the WWII Memorial (which wasn’t built with Federal money) and again when he told Americans No you are not allowed to use MY water in Florida. So many examples of his empathy towards us and yet so many more are available.

    • Barakolips

      Brilliante! Now go drink more koolaide, tea will be served, and abundantly, very soon!

    • Barakolips

      Brilliante! Now go drink more koolaide, tea will be served, and abundantly, very soon!

  • WTS/JAY

    What is the Hegelian Dialectic?

    Hegel’s dialectic is the tool which manipulates us into a frenzied circular pattern of thought and action.

    Every time we fight for or defend against an ideology we are playing a necessary role in Marx and Engels’ grand design to advance humanity into a dictatorship of the proletariat.

    The synthetic Hegelian solution to all these conflicts can’t be introduced unless we all take a side that will advance the agenda. The Marxist’s global agenda is moving along at breakneck speed.

    The only way to completely stop the privacy invasions, expanding domestic police powers, land grabs, insane wars against inanimate objects (and transient verbs), covert actions, and outright assaults on individual liberty, is to step outside the dialectic. This releases us from the limitations of controlled and guided thought.

    When we understand what motivated Hegel, we can see his influence on all of our destinies. … Hegelian conflicts steer every political arena on the planet, from the United Nations to the major American political parties, all the way down to local school boards and community councils.

    Dialogues and consensus-building are primary tools of the dialectic, and terror and intimidation are also acceptable formats for obtaining the goal.

    The ultimate Third Way agenda is world government. Once we get what’s really going on, we can cut the strings and move our lives in original directions outside the confines of the dialectical madness.

    Focusing on Hegel’s and Engel’s ultimate agenda, and avoiding getting caught up in their impenetrable theories of social evolution, gives us the opportunity to think and act our way toward freedom, justice, and genuine liberty for all.

    Today the dialectic is active in every political issue that encourages taking sides. We can see it in environmentalists instigating conflicts against private property owners, in democrats against republicans, in greens against libertarians, in communists against socialists, in neo-cons against traditional conservatives, in community activists against individuals, in pro-choice versus pro-life, in Christians against Muslims, in isolationists versus interventionists, in peace activists against war hawks.

    No matter what the issue, the invisible dialectic aims to control both the conflict and the resolution of differences, and leads everyone involved into a new cycle of conflicts…

    Definitions:

    Merriam-Webster:

    “Dialectic ….the Hegelian process of change in which a concept or its realization passes over into and is preserved and fulfilled by its opposite… development through the stages of thesis, antithesis, and synthesis in accordance with the laws of dialectical materialism ….any systematic reasoning, exposition, or argument that juxtaposes opposed or contradictory ideas and usually seeks to resolve their conflict …
    ….the dialectical tension or opposition between two interacting forces or elements.”

    “Dialectical Materialism … 1 : the Marxist theory that maintains the material basis of a reality constantly changing in a dialectical process and the priority of matter over mind.”

    continued: http://www.crossroad.to/articles2/05/dialectic.htm

    • Average_Joe56

      What is the Hegelian Dialectic?

      Quite simply:
      Problem – Reaction – Solution
      In order to change public opinion in ones favor, first create a problem, wait for the reaction from the masses…and then suggest a (pre-determined) solution that would not and could not be granted under “normal” conditions.
      Example: The (un) Patriot Act

    • Average_Joe56

      Related:

      ANONYMOUS: Keep up with this story on Twitter with #OpSerious

      The current geopolitical and economic climates indicate a predisposition for a false flag terrorist attack against the United States of America. Saudi Arabia, Qatar and possibly other Persian Gulf oil and gas exporting states have expressed an increasing amount of interest in an American war against Syria by offering to pay for the entire campaign. The American economy has been prepared for total war by positioning to reduce non-military government spending and to stop interest payments to foreign creditor nations. These combined factors place strong pressure on the political leadership of the United States to wage war on Syria. One of the main obstacles to open warfare against Syria is the opinion of the American People. The overwhelming success of false flag terrorist attacks in directing foreign policy towards war and their amazing effectiveness at shaping public opinion combined with the above mentioned factors suggest that such attacks might be employed to give the American politicians an excuse for open warfare against Syria.
      Believe or don’t believe, that option is up to the individual.
      In the meantime, keep your heads down and your powder dry.

      • 010sonny

        That is not in character with Obama methods for solutions on foreign affaires. There will be no boots on the ground and if anything a limited air strike. World opinion will lay sway to the decision. Obama will seek to bring the various sovereignties together rather than hell fire my way and dam the torpedoes, republican strategies. Syria is an opportunity to unify various opposing fractions to a common cause.

        • Average_Joe56

          010sonny,
          Take off the rose colored glasses and the blinders, they aren’t doing you any favors. After doing that, please make an appointment with a proctologist….to remove your head from your backside.
          You seem to be overtly enamored by your messiah, the Kenyan Cretin….Have you been blowing him chocolate kisses….amongst other things? Or is that just wishful thinking on your part?
          Get a grip on reality dude…..seriously…GET A GRIP!
          (Tell your handlers that you need a new assignment…the folks here aren’t buying your BS)

        • Jana

          But it is in Obama’s methods to have Boots willing to defend our embassy and be told to STAND DOWN, then lie to the parents of those killed in action. It is Obama’s method to tell the United States he will get to the bottom of what happened only to go off into the sunset and forget about it, hoping it will go away.
          As he has done with every other SCANDAL that has plagued his administration.
          Fast and Furious
          Benghazi
          IRS Scandal
          Investigating AP phone records
          GSA wild parties
          Black Panther voter intimidation case

          I could go on but will stop here.

        • http://batman-news.com samurai

          Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor. It seems that you have your headt buried in the sand, like an ostrich. In fact, are you an ostrich? Can you not tell what is going on around you? There will be no troops on the ground because the House will not pass it. Next, there will be no airstrike, for we have no interests in this conflict. To go there would have grave repercussions for the U.S., as Russia has troops on the ground, ships in a naval base, and Iran is preparing to send in troops to help Assad. Sorry dude, but we do not need to be fighting in the Middle East, Europe, Asia (not the Middle East), and probably in our own back yard (Alaska). Neeeeed to be making that popping sound. Here is an article about Obama bin Laden, big business, and crony capitalism.

          http://www.politicaloutcast.com/2013/10/media-admits-crony-capitalism-big-business-ve-tea-party-sides-tea-party/

          Here is one that describes how the new DHS nominee tells how government officials can be assassinated.

          http://www.politicaloutcast.com/2013/10/dhs-nominee-believes-us-government-personnel-can-legally-assassinated-without-due-process/

          Looks like your ilk are up to no good. Clean your house first, then you can talk about another person’s house. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!

          You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot. This leaves you out.

          “The general principles on which the fathers achieved independence were the general principles of Christianity. I will avow that I then believed, and now believe, that those general principles of Christianity are as eternasl and immutable as the existence and attributes of God.”

          John Adams

        • Robert Messmer

          To quote another Democrat President “I will not ask American boys to fight a war that Asian boys should fight.” LBJ did keep his word, he didn’t ask, simply drafted them and shipped them to Nam by the tens of thousands. We know not to trust Democrats when it comes to war or keeping their promises.

    • 010sonny

      Interesting how you latched on to Marx and Hegelian of course you realize they are political theorist. Both have their flaws. Example Marx theory on communalism was proven wrong with Lenin’s revolution back in 1918. Some of Marx theories are still in use to some regards as well as most of previous political theorist. John Lock, Emmanuel Kant, and many others have had a hand in sculpturing our democracy. Yes even all the way back to the early Greeks and Rome. To latch on just a couple and hype away into some tunnel vision of that’s all there is and we are doomed is to put it mildly, Callow.
      There have been many others right up to the present that have evolved to more efficient political theories. One that might interest you is on the Liberal International Free Trade Markets and how they sculpture the various forces of Nations and their politics. One in which our USA could benefit by using some of its theories as they actually do. Obama is desperately trying to rein in the lax regulations of our capitalism that produces the bust and boon scenarios. This will not do in an organized globalized world.
      Yes agree that the USA has and will feel the bite of the “Liberal International Free Trade Markets” for years to come. USA is as powerless as was communism to reigning in the eventual leveling effects of the Liberal International Free Trade Markets. Just as the orthodoxy communism walls came a tumbling down without a shot being fired! So shall the corruptive deregulations of our capitalism. To compete in such an arena of Liberal International Free Trade Markets, sovereignties will require, that they are efficient in their finances, as well as securing the security of their labor forces. Failure to do so, will result in diminishing their ability to effectively trade on the Liberal International Free Trade Markets.
      Suggest some sources for you to explore. One is Michael Mandelbaum. Economic advisors to various presidents here in the USA and a few other outlying sovereignties. Has several books on the subject of Liberal International Free Trade Markets. One to get you started “The Ideas That Conquered The World”. Another one, on more specifics of internal inequality of economics and their results would be; Joseph E. Stiglitz One of his books just released “ The Price Of Inequality”. He also has a history as an economic advisor, on the presidents councils. Oh did I mention holds the Nobel Prize in Economics.
      Yes it is a tad more complicated than a two political theorist analyst but well worth the while. Marx is archaic and fading along with many other political theorist that have come and gone.
      Ever hear of Johann Gottfried Herder {1744- 1803} Nationalism? Napoleon was well versed in it as was other nations at the time to only have it metastasized into Imperialism. How about the German political philosopher Friedrich Heinrich Jacobi introduced the term “Nihilism” that Russians in their use of it eventually promoted the assassination of Czar Alexander II in 1881.
      Just as they faded away some of their remnants remain and are assimilated to advance the evolution of political theories.
      That is where you are now. Opening your political eyes and overwhelmed with but a fraction of the answerer on political evolution. Do not fear it. More you learn the greater your freedoms will materialize for you to recognize and appreciate in the shade of the liberty tree, at your leisure.
      Interesting how you latched on to Marx and Hegelian of course you realize they are political theorist. Both have their flaws. Example Marx theory on communalism was proven wrong with Lenin’s revolution back in 1918. Some of Marx theories are still in use to some regards as well as most of previous political theorist. John Lock, Emmanuel Kant, and many others have had a hand in sculpturing our democracy. Yes even all the way back to the early Greeks and Rome. To latch on just a couple and hype away into some tunnel vision of that’s all there is and we are doomed is to put it mildly, Callow.
      There have been many others right up to the present that have evolved to more efficient political theories. One that might interest you is on the Liberal International Free Trade Markets and how they sculpture the various forces of Nations and their politics. One in which our USA could benefit by using some of its theories as they actually do. Obama is desperately trying to rein in the lax regulations of our capitalism that produces the bust and boon scenarios. This will not do in an organized globalized world.
      Yes agree that the USA has and will feel the bite of the “Liberal International Free Trade Markets” for years to come. USA is as powerless as was communism to reigning in the eventual leveling effects of the Liberal International Free Trade Markets. Just as the orthodoxy communism walls came a tumbling down without a shot being fired! So shall the corruptive deregulations of our capitalism. To compete in such an arena of Liberal International Free Trade Markets, sovereignties will require, that they are efficient in their finances, as well as securing the security of their labor forces. Failure to do so, will result in diminishing their ability to effectively trade on the Liberal International Free Trade Markets.
      Suggest some sources for you to explore. One is Michael Mandelbaum. Economic advisors to various presidents here in the USA and a few other outlying sovereignties. Has several books on the subject of Liberal International Free Trade Markets. One to get you started “The Ideas That Conquered The World”. Another one, on more specifics of internal inequality of economics and their results would be; Joseph E. Stiglitz One of his books just released “ The Price Of Inequality”. He also has a history as an economic advisor, on the presidents councils. Oh did I mention holds the Nobel Prize in Economics.
      Yes it is a tad more complicated than a two political theorist analyst but well worth the while. Marx is archaic and fading along with many other political theorist that have come and gone.
      Ever hear of Johann Gottfried Herder {1744- 1803} Nationalism? Napoleon was well versed in it as was other nations at the time to only have it metastasized into Imperialism. How about the German political philosopher Friedrich Heinrich Jacobi introduced the term “Nihilism” that Russians in their use of it eventually promoted the assassination of Czar Alexander II in 1881.
      Just as they faded away some of their remnants remain and are assimilated to advance the evolution of political theories.
      That is where you are now. Opening your political eyes and overwhelmed with but a fraction of the answerer on political evolution. Do not fear it. More you learn the greater your freedoms will materialize for you to recognize and appreciate in the shade of the liberty tree, at your leisure.

      • WTS/JAY

        010sonny: Interesting how you latched on to Marx and Hegelian of course you realize they are political theorist. Both have their flaws. Example Marx theory on communalism was proven wrong with Lenin’s revolution back in 1918. Some of Marx theories are still in use to some regards as well as most of previous political theorist. John Lock, Emmanuel Kant, and many others have had a hand in sculpturing our democracy.

        You seem yo have missed the point, 010sonny. The “Hegelian-dialectical” is not a economic theory but a “method”, or the tool which manipulates us into a frenzied circular pattern of thought and action. Every time we fight for or defend against an ideology we are playing a necessary role in Marx and Engels’ grand design to advance humanity into a dictatorship of the proletariat.

        Did you not read the article?

        • 010sonny

          Yes I did read the article did you actually read my reply? The action response and effect you are referring to is a basic principle of a law of physics.
          It can be applied to human behavior as well. Just as the laws of thermodynamics or entropy as many other laws of physics. That political theorist picks up on one of these laws of physics and runs with it and then applies his opinion as to the speculations is at best curious and by simple observation one can deduce the merits of the speculation. His specific detailed predicative outcome has been found interesting but not complete. As suggested keep reading from more than one or two books. Get your satisfaction by expanding your knowledge of many other political theorist. Get out of that tunnel vision and breath in the fresh knowledge.
          Well back to work I go.. Ta, Ta

          • WTS/JAY

            010sonny: Get out of that tunnel vision and breath in the fresh knowledge.

            The Hegelian dialectic presupposes the factual basis for the theory of social evolutionary principles, which coincidentally backed up Marx. Marx’s Darwinian theory of the “social evolution of the species,” (even though it has been used for a century to create a vast new scientific community, including eugenics and socio-economics), does not adhere to the basis for all good scientific research, and appears to exist mainly to advance itself, and all its sub-socio-scientific arms, as the more moral human science. To the ACL this means the entire basis for the communitarian solution is based on a false premise, because there is no FACTUAL basis that “social evolution of the species” exists, based as it is only on Darwinian and Marxist ideology of man’s “natural” evolution towards a British version of utopia.

            The London-Marxist platform in 1847 was “to abolish private property.” The American Revolution was based in private property rights. Marxist societies confiscate wealth and promise to “re-distribute it equally.” America promised everyone they could keep and control what was the product of their own labor.

            Modern Marxist adherents openly claim they will “rebuild the world,” and they train activist “change agents” to openly support overthrowing the legitimate governments of the world. Since their inception, Marxist agent provocateurs can be linked to every anarchist assassination and student uprising that caused chaos to the established European civilization throughout the 18th and 19th centuries. Modern Americans have succumbed to the conspiracy theory label and will only listen to what the propaganda machines tell them. Now our people don’t believe anyone other than maybe the Arab world “hates our freedom.” Most modern Americans will never know what went wrong with their “great experiment in democracy.”

            While the Marxist-communitarian argument has not provided a shred of evidence to prove their utopian vision, and their synthesis does not match their own projected conclusions of world justice, we are convinced their argument does in fact substantiate our conclusion, that the entire philosophical dialectical argument is nothing but a brilliant ruse. We used to call it “a cheap parlor trick” until a responder to this page wondered how we could call it “cheap” when it’s been so successful. And he was right. The dialectical arguments for human rights, social equity, and world peace and justice are a perfectly designed diversion in the defeated British Empire’s Hegelian-Fabian-Metaphysical-Theosophical Monopoly game. It’s the most successful con job in the history of the modern world.

            The communitarian synthesis is the final silent move in a well-designed, quietly implemented plot to re-make the world into colonies. To us it doesn’t matter if there is some form of ancient religion that propels the plotters, nor does it really matter if it turns out they’re aliens (as some suggest). The bottom line is the Hegelian dialectic sets up the scene for state intervention, confiscation, and redistribution in the U.S., and this is against our ENTIRE constitutional based society.

            The Hegelian dialectic is not a conspiracy theory because the Conspiracy Theory is a fraud. We’ve all been duped by global elitists who plan to take totalitarian control of all nation’s people, property, and produce. Communitarian Plans exist in every corner of the world, and nobody at the local level will explain why there’s no national legal avenue to withdraw from the U.N.’s “community” development plans.
            Peek a boo, i see you.. ta, ta

      • http://batman-news.com samurai

        Nice cut and paste job. We do not want things to be liberal, but by the ways of our Christian founding fathers and our Constitution. Liberalism is the opposite of freedoms. Here is an article about what one of Obama bin Ladens bunk buddies is trying to do with illegals.

        http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/10/18/George-Soros-group-plans-fly-in-to-push-House-Republicans-for-amnesty-deal

        FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!

        You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot. This leaves you out.

        “The Declaration of Independence laid the cornerstone of human government upon the first precepts of Christianity.”

        John Adams

      • Robert Messmer

        You say that, “Obama is desperately trying to rein in …” yes he is and he should stop immediately. It is not his job. His job is to protect and defend the Constitution and US. Such as repelling the invasion of 12 million illegal criminals–not giving them jobs, not granting amnesty.

    • Toy Pupanbai
    • Robert Messmer

      So if true that ” its realization passes over into and is preserved and fulfilled by its opposite.” then since we desire freedom we should enter into and embrace slavery? Since we do not want a religion that says believe or I kill you we should become Muslim? Sounds like BS to me.

  • Palin16

    Silly liberals…spent $500 million on obamacare website….could have gone to GoDaddy and got one for 100 bucks.

    • http://batman-news.com samurai

      Keep up the good fight fellow patriot. No quarter! I know what you mean, then the darned thing didn’t work. It is still messed up and less than 60,000 people nationwide signed up. The product is a complete failure and Obama bin Laden knew it wouldn’t work, but it was successful to his agenda. The agenda of bankrupting this great country. Here are 2 articles that describe what is going on in our great country today.

      http://www.conservativebyte.com/2013/10/flashback-paul-harvey-1965-devil-warning-nation/

      http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/2013/10/18/the_mess_we_re_in_was_avoidable

      Let us vote many of these libturds/progturds out of office and stoke them into the fire. That would make a good smell for the senses. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!

      You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot.

      “We recognize no sovereign but God, no King but Jesus.”

      John Adams
      Signer of the Declaration of Independence
      Signer of the Bill of Rights
      Signer of the 1st Amendment
      2nd President of the U.S.
      Devout Christian

  • http://www.rt.com Alondra

    How nauseatingly revolting it is. Natural Born LIAR Destroyer-in-Chief in the Luciferian posture is lecturing on ‘what this country is about’ and what the Founding Fathers’ vision was for this country. http://www.westernjournalism.com/obama-republicans-go-win-election/

    • http://batman-news.com samurai

      Keep up the good fight fellow patriot. No quarter! We all know that Obama bin Laden is lying every time he opens his mouth. There is no God or Jesus inside him, just great darkness. Obama bin Laden knows nothing about our Christian founding fathers, let alone our founding. Here is an article describing how you can count the lies that Obama bin Laden told in his debt ceiling speech.

      http://www.wnd.com/2013/10/count-obama-whoppers-in-debt-deal-speech/

      FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!

      You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot.

      “By Law the United States Congress adds to U.S. coinage: ‘In God We Trust.'”

      United States Congress 1864

  • http://www.rt.com Alondra

    A video billboard in the Cornerstone Plaza sign located on U.S. 6 in Kendallville, IN, Calls For Obama’s Impeachment, portraying him as Hitler.

    The sign was made possible by the LaRouchePac. Group members said “it is there to stir the pot and let people know that there’s a political fight that’s going on, that’s going on in D.C. and extends out to all regions of the country.”

  • Chuckb

    Alondra,

    Wouldn’t it be great to place that billboard just off the ramp to the bay Bridge on the way to San Francisco.

    First off, who ever would dare doing that, would end up in prison,secondly, the sign would only last a few hours before someone blew it up.

    It would stir the bay Area Liberals into a fury,
    Moonbeam Brown would order the flags to be flown at half Mast.

    • http://batman-news.com samurai

      We had a sign in Elklhart with Obama’s picture and a Bible verse that made people here angry. The Bible vers went like this:

      “Let his days be few; and let another take his office.

      Psalms 109:8

      Many people were angry and said it was disgusting. A libturd judge ordered that it be covered up and they put a tarp over it. The sign did not come down till after the election. So much for our God-given right of free speech. Here is an article telling how Obama bin Laden made another big campaign fundraiser a position as head of Homeland Security.

      http://www.townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2013/10/18/obamas-dhs-nominee-n1727264

      Just another libturd/progturd log that was added to the fire. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!

      You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot.

      “”Congress passed this resolution: ‘The Congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools.'”

      United States Congress 1782

  • http://batman-news.com samurai

    Its another beautiful day in my neighborhood. The smell of roasting libturds/progturds fills the breeze. One day closer to voting in some conservatives to impeach Obama bin Laden. I hope the 435 members of the House read the book on impeachment they were given. I’ll bet Obama bin Laden is starting to sweat about that. If not, he should. Next year is an election year. Here is an article about Obama bin Laden and his ATF.

    http://www.freedomoutpost.com/2013/10/firing-squads-atf-manual-insinuates-whistleblowers-shot/

    FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!

    You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot.

    “The highest glory of the American Revolution was this: it connected, in one indissoluble bond, the principles of civil government with the principles of Christianity.”

    John Adams

  • Palin16

    Three years to get Obamacare online, at a cost of over $500 million, and it’s been a total disaster. Yesterday I heard not a single person in Alaska has signed up. Sebelius says she doesn’t have time in her schedule to appear in Congress. What a joke!

    • http://batman-news.com samurai

      Keep up the good fight fellow patriot. No quarter! We all know that Obama bin Laden is insane. Here is an article describing him as a sociopath.

      http://www.lastresistance.com/3426/president-sociopath/

      FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!

      You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot.

      “Religion, morality, and knowledge, being necessary to good government and the benefit of mankind, schools and the means of education shall forever be encouraged.”

      Northwest Ordinance
      April 07, 1789
      Article III

      • Palin16

        Great article, samurai. Yes we know Obummer voted against increasing the debt ceiling as Senator, saying it was unpatriotic. Now he intends to do just that.

        • http://batman-news.com samurai

          He was a liar from the start, but it is unfortunate that people are just starting to wake up after 5 years. My youngest son says that he is “satan’s spawn”, but I think he is pretty close to that. Keep up the good fight fellow patriot. No quarter! FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
          You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot.

  • Motov

    What can we expect from the lawyer party?
    They think their stuff don’t stink, but not one of them will sign up to Obozocare.

  • http://batman-news.com samurai

    I smell roasting libturds and progturds. The fighting must be going well. We are sweeping the field. Keep up the good fight fellow patriots. No quarter! Here is an article that deals with the refid chip and Obama bin Laden Care.

    http://www.beforeitsnews.com/alternative/2013/10/nbc-predicts-all-americans-will-receive-a-microchip-implant-in-2017-per-obamacare-videos-2797326.html

    This is right out of the Book of Revelation. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!

    You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot.

    “If we ever forget that we are One Nation Under God, then we will be a nation gone under.”

    Ronald Reagan
    40th President of the U.S.

    • janna

      Jesus effin Christ
      people like you cause me to not want to survive a ( nature or man made)
      world wide calamity
      which you would attribute to a loving and mercyfull “God”
      who is p$$sed at our “sinfull” ways
      therefore in your new world (after a Noah like punishment)you would impose a return to “God”
      a return to the garden of eden if you like
      hence a new Inquisition
      and yet yet you despise the Taliban
      by “God” I can’t tell the difference
      your’s truly
      lib&progturd
      Janna

      • Bob666

        Yo Janna,
        Like many (not all) of the “Christians” on this site. They take hypocrisy to an all new standard.Sammy is a very special kind of hypocrite.

        • http://batman-news.com samurai

          Argument to ridicule. I wouldn’t go there if I were you, Bob666. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
          You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot.

          • Bob666

            Well Sammy,
            let’s see here,
            Definition of bearing false witness in the Online Dictionary. Meaning of bearing false witness. Pronunciation of bearing false witness.
            “You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor” is the ninth of the Ten Commandments, which are widely understood as moral imperatives by legal scholars, Jewish scholars, Catholic scholars, and Post-Reformation scholars.

            “Don’t forget the lush Chelsea Clinton. In her case of immorality, the fruit did not fall far from the tree”

            I get that you don’t like her parents Sammy, but I can’t find anything that bad about Chelsea and how would you feel if people attacked your daughter because they don’t like you?

            Comment policy:
            We encourage an open discussion with a wide range of viewpoints, even extreme ones, but we will not tolerate racism, profanity or slanderous comments toward the author(s) or comment participants. Make your case passionately, but civilly. Please don’t stoop to name calling.

            Here are some of the highlights from last week:

            The smell of roasting libturds/progturds fills the breeze

            I smell roasting libturds and progturds.

            Argument to ridicule. Now be quiet and go home

            Argument to ridicule. Here is an article about queer rights and totalitarianism.

            Lies! Lies! Lies! If they had funded the White House, they wouldn’t need to cancel the tours of the White House, now would they? Go home and stay there. You are a disgrace to this country

            You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot. This leaves you out traitor.

            Why don’t you go back to the psych ward you have obviously escaped from? It is time for your medication

            Put up or shut up traitor. Now be a good little sociopath and go play in the street

            Look who is talking about no credibility? This is the pot calling the kettle black. Just shut up and go home

            I hate to tell you, but you are a fool. You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot. This leaves you out traitor.
            Who taught you how to interact with others? Are you mental faculties working this time or not?

            SSDD, eh smelly? Can’t come up with a more intelligent response than that? I guess that the old saying is true, the fruit don’t fall far from the tree. I guess your parents must not have been that intelligent either

            Argument to ridicule. Just like the liar and traitor you are. Here are some articles about the bin Ladens.

            Argument to ridicule. No wonder you have no credibility. Since it is libturds and progturds, like you

            I’ve never had my hand out, but you have. I believe in earning my keep, unlike you, who wants things for free. Very unamerican of you. Ooops! I forgot that you live in Canada

            Never fear, the Samurai is here to stand next to you and cover you from the likes of rbrooks. One of the many menaces on this site. I have found this about the Constitution and how to teach it to libturds and progturds.

            “When will you ever learn and stop your lies, rhetoric, innuendo, and hate towards things that are opposte of what you believe? You’re beginning to sound like a sociopath. They are not good people. You are told to be quiet and move on”

            Food for thought Sammy-you are the one who claims to be “Super Christian”. A smart man would ask if maybe old Bob666 might have made a good point?

            I don’t believe that you are a bad guy Sammie, you just don’t have the right to judge people as you do and it really does turn people off and away from you.

            Think about it.

          • S.C.Murf

            boobie trip 6’s I don’t think Samurai was judging I believe he is REPORTING FACTS. You have a good TIME in the Lake of Fire.
            boobie if I belonged to a organization as the masons I would want to know exactly what was going on by everyone including the upper tiers that way I could make the decision of weather to continue with my membership or not. Taking their word that everything was OK is not the way to go, gets you in trouble bud but if you like being kept in the dark you’ll love satan.

            up the hill
            airborne

          • Bob666

            Cannon Fader,
            “Don’t forget the lush Chelsea Clinton. In her case of immorality, the fruit did not fall far from the tree”

            I get that you don’t like her parents Sammy, but I can’t find anything that bad about Chelsea and how would you feel if people attacked your daughter because they don’t like you?

            Comment policy:
            We encourage an open discussion with a wide range of viewpoints, even extreme ones, but we will not tolerate racism, profanity or slanderous comments toward the author(s) or comment participants. Make your case passionately, but civilly. Please don’t stoop to name calling.

            Reading comprehension problems?

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            I’m not judging anyone. Since you seem to have found most of these with my replies to smilee, I just want to say that I know the person. He is the same person that hijacked our names a few threads back. Ergo, I am not judging, I know the person. We worked together in 2010, but now we do not. I do not have time to explain in detail, but you get the gist. Your not a bad guy eith Bob, but couldn’t I say the same thing about your answers to Alondra? Calling her a pig or some pork product. I’m just saying and not pointing fingers. I get this way when I feel I’m being lied to or when someone backs up legislation that is unconstitutional in nature. OK? Have a good day. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
            You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot.

          • Bob666

            Sammy,
            The Beast is a Pig, sorry that you can’t see it, as it is as plain as day. Homophobic, Racist, beast with horns and hooves filled with Envy and Narcissism and those are her most redeeming virtues.

            She just hoodwinks you with bible verse Sammy.

          • Jana

            That was my down arrow Bob! Talk about being a hypocrite! Wow.

          • Bob666

            Well Jana,
            Tell me where I’m wrong? (I wont give you a down arrow Jana). The following post is by a sub-human-not anything close to a Christian:

            “Yes, sir, people CAN change and people do change, but there is one condition: people’s willingness to change and commitment.

            You can’t repair marriage if only one party is willing and committed to and other party does not.

            There can’t be any communication when one party
            does not tolerate the convictions of the other party.

            I have NONE common ground with people like Karolyn who ALWAYS justifying UNJUSTIFIABLE, defending UNDEFENDABLE, supporting and advocating PERVERSION and DEGENERACY.

            There is NONE issue that I am agreed with her. By few people she was called “human predator” and rightly so. And yes, her name rightly attached to DEPRAVITY and STUPIDITY.

            Poster #1: “I know you as ******* on this website and what I’ve posted is the result of the impression of you that I’ve gotten from your comments. You may not like it, but It’s what I see and what I read in your comments.”

            Poster #2: “*******, for the longest time I was always under the impression that you were not too bright … But what i finally realized about you is that, you are one of the most intellectually-dishonest of posters on PLD.

            Poster #3: “Alondra, ******** says we are all brothers and sisters, yet she is always praising Planned-Parenthood for their unrelenting slaughter of the un-born.”

            Poster #4: “I’ve been reading your posts for well over 3 years, *******. You don’t fool me one little bit. As far as I’m concerned, you may just be the most devious and cunning out of all the liberal-hyenas that pollute this good site. You promote anger, division and hostility; and unfortunately, we have no choice but to put up with the likes of you.”

            There are much, much more like that.
            And she is lying when she said to you: “people have been very instrumental in my changing views.”

            She is a LIAR. She NEVER changed HER views and still remain stupid and pervert.

            My Magic Book teaches me: ““Answer a fool ACCORDING to HIS folly, lest he be wise in his own eyes.” – King Solomon (Proverbs 26:5)

            And again there is NONE “common ground” between Light and Darkness, between MY Christ and HER Belial.

            “Woe unto them that CALL EVIL GOOD, and GOOD EVIL; that put DARKNESS for LIGHT, and LIGHT for DARKNESS; that put BITTER for SWEET, and SWEET for BITTER!” (Isaiah 5:20)

            “Silence in the face of evil is itself evil: God will not hold us guiltless. Not to speak is to speak. Not to act is to act.” – Dietrich Bonhoeffer

            “Between GOOD and EVIL there is no reconciliation.” – Alexander Soljenitsen

            We have what we have now it’s thatnks that “We have been silent witnesses of evil deeds.” – Dietrich Bonhoeffer

            I am NOT silent anymore; I am NOT Politically Correct anymore. NO ONE will silent me. And I will continue to expose Stupidity, Idiocy, Perversion, Depravity, Lies.

            Take care – Alondra

          • Jana

            First of all you aren’t acting like a gentleman. Secondly you are judging her and harshly at that. It has to stop somewhere. I know what she says, but you claim to be better than that. You have no right calling anyone the beast as that is one of the names of Satan an she is not Satan.
            Calling names is childish. Satan is not coming down with horns and a tail in a red suit and hooves. He is coming looking like Christ. Very becoming. Very deceiving. This is why you need to know the True Word of God or you will be deceived and worship the spurious Messiah.

          • Bob666

            Who is judging now?
            I like you, but like Sammie, if someone quotes the book, you give them a free pass. The beast stalks Karolyn and I have only gone after her when she attacks Karolyn FIRST. Sorry to disagree with you Jana, But a Gentleman IS exactly what I have been!
            As a Lady, I would defend your honor with no less vigor if the beast attacked you.

          • Jana

            Keep up the good work my brother in Christ. Stand strong!
            Satan has his army out in full strength it seems, and the weak are following them.
            Eph 6:10-11

            10 Finally, be strong in the Lord, and in the strength of his might.

            11 Put on the whole armor of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil.

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            Thank you fellow patriot and you also stand strong. Keep up the good fight fellow patriot. No quarter! FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
            You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot.

          • S.C.Murf

            Samurai good morning. Like our founding fathers before us we have to fight off the free masons that tried to hijack the country for their god satan. Did you know that the statue of liberty is actually one of the gods of the masons and was a gift from the masons of France? They are deeply entrenched in our govt. and we must continue to put up the (as you say)GOOD FIGHT. I can’t believe how fast it is starting to go, even China now says what the world needs is a central Govt. so as the little man has the same rights as the big countries. G. Soros calling for a one world currency. Hold on to your loved ones and keep them close and remember getting down on ones knees puts us in good standing with God the Father

            up the hill
            airborne

          • Bob666

            Well Smurffey,
            I see you smoking the wacky weed again. Have you ever been a mason?

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            The Book of Revelation is coming right before our eyes. Keep up the good fight fellow patriot. No quarter! FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
            You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot.

      • http://batman-news.com samurai

        All the lies and ad hominems you said about the one true God, I’ll leave you in the hands of God. The rest is argument to ridicule and it would be less intelligent to argue with someone of lower status, like you. Now be quiet and let the patriots try to get this country back of the track our Christian founding fathers started us on. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
        You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot. This leaves you out.

        • janna

          samurai
          the founding fathers were wise enough to leave “God” out of the constitution
          could it be they were worried about Taliban like people like yourself running roughshot over Atheist,Mormons,Muslims,Hindus,Buddhist
          Catholics,etc,etc,etc
          most of “YOUR” Founding Fathers were NOT Christians
          however in those days one did not scream that from the mountaintop for obvious reasons
          now I say unto you
          go forth and hug an Atheist Patriot
          PS that ain’t me
          I live with pride in SOCIALIST CANUCKISTAN

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            If you had read our Constitution, would would see a reference to a blesser in the Preamble. This refers us back to the Declaration of Independence which states our rights are, “Endowed by their Creator.”, blessed by God. This means that our right to life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness are blessings from God and not from man. We historians have a saying, “The Constitution fits right on top of the Declaration of Independence.”, which mean they used it to help in the writing of the Constitution. Articles 1, 2, and 3 are made by using the 27 complaints against the king that are listed. Each of those 27 were not just someones Idea, but they were sermons from the pulpit. Here is a site that shows what they cited from the Bible in writing our founding documents.

            http://www.faithfacts.org/christ-and-the-culture/the-bible-and-government

            Now go learn what these things mean. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!

            You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot. This leaves you out.

            “The Scriptures tell us righteousness exalteth a nation.”

            Abigail Adams
            Wife of John Adams

      • NAVSOG

        YOUR WORDS ARE RECORDED FOR JUDGEMENT

        • Jana

          Amen!!!I don’t even mind you practicing your own religion, just don’t come into my country and try to take over, and change our laws! We have freedom of religion here.

        • Jana

          We can see he isn’t even practicing the art of taqiyya, he came right out and told us what he is.

          • janna

            regarding Taqiyya
            you betcha
            but you would practice it big time if living in
            Iran,Iraq,Saudi Arabia,Afghanistan,Pakistan,etc,etc,etc
            but please go on denigrating all those once is enough born (as opposed to born again) people
            your heaven does sound like one hell of a boring place
            one long eternal brown nosing session
            forever&ever&ever&ever&ever&ever,etc,etc,etc

          • Jana

            NOPE!!!! I base my life on honesty, that’s why I was able to spot your lies.

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            Argument to ridicule. Be lucky that my pastor isn’t on this site, for he would give you a proper tongue lashing about the 9th Commandment. Thou shalt not bear false witness against they neighbor. Would I lie about my faith if I lived in the Middle East? No. I lived in the Middle East for 3 years of my military career and didn’t lie about being a Christian then, I won’t now. Janna is no Muslim, but sounds like an atheist. We all know what the Muslims do to atheists? You don’t want to know. Been to Iraq, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, and Afghanistan, you? Here is something describing how Obama bin Laden lost another big time supporter.

            http://www.libertyalliance.com/2013/10/oprah-disses-obamacare/

            Looks like he is losing friends and supporters left and right. Looks like that lying book, the Koran, isn’t working for him. Thank goodness our founding fathers based our country on Christian principles. This is why we are a Christian nation. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!

            You need both love of country and faith in GOD (the one true GOD) to be a patriot. This leaves you out.

            “War is hell”

            General William Tecumseh Sherman

          • Jana

            Good catch Samurai. Keep up the good work my brother.
            God bless you.

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            Same to you and yours. Sook Young says hello. Keep up the good fight fellow patriot. No quarter! FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
            You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot.

          • Jana

            Got some good news here. When Ted Cruz came back to Texas he got an 8 minute standing ovation. That is a nice long ovation. Hoorah!

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            Oh yeah! That is good news. Here are some articles about the pretender in office, Obama bin Laden.

            http://www.westernjournalism.com/shopping-center-sign-calls-obama-impeachment-portrays-hitler/

            http://www.westernjournalism.com/the-organization-that-will-likely-pull-down-obama/

            http://www.westernjournalism.com/obama-republicans-go-win-election/

            Keep up the good fight fellow patriot. No quarter! FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고나라를 위해서!

            You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot.

            “A man can build a throne with bayonets, but he can never sit upon it.”

            Sir Francis Bacon

      • S.C.Murf

        Ya janna especially when you take His name in vain. Wake up girl and please make that popping sound.

        up the hill
        airborne

      • S.C.Murf

        Ya janna especially when you take His name in vain. Wake up girl and please make that popping sound.

        up the hill
        airborne

      • http://batman-news.com samurai

        Thou shalt not take the name of the Lord thy God in vain. It seems that someone has potty mouth. You might want to clean up your act before God does it for you. But alas! It’ll be too late for you then. Here is an article that says the broken healthcare sit of Obama bin Laden was made by a Canadian company. So much for quality work from Canada.

        http://www.godfatherpolitics.com/12964/heathcare-gov-site-built-canadian-firm/

        FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!

        You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot. This leaves you out.

        “In the chain of human events, the birthday of the nation is indissolubly linked with the birthday of the Savior.”

        John Quincy Adams
        6th President of the U.S.
        Devout Christian

  • http://batman-news.com samurai

    Keep up the good fight fellow patriots. No quarter! It seems that the Samurai is being attacked a a person, or persons, with various names. I shall be the more intelligent person and ignore them. Just more libturd/progturd fuel for the fire. Here are some articles about Obama bin Laden Care.

    http://www.theblacksphere.net/2013/10/less-doctors-obamacare-beginning/

    http://www.theblacksphere.net/2013/10/obamacare-jim-crow-medicine/

    Looks like Sarah Palin was correct. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!

    You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot.

    “There are no atheists in fox holes.”

    Samurai

    • Palin16

      Good idea Samurai, just ignore the liberals name calling, just like when Smelly called me a racist out of thin blue air when I had not even mentioned race on my post. Some quotes from Barack Hussein Obama in “Dreams From My Father” about race:

      1) “My grandmother was a typical white person.”

      2) “I ceased to advertise my mother’s race at the age of 12 or 13, when I began to suspect that by doing so I was ingratiating myself to whites.”

      • Palin16

        Here’s a quote from Harry Reid:
        “Senator Obama is electable as president because he is a light-skinned African American with no Negro accent, unless he wants to.”

        • http://batman-news.com samurai

          D’oh! :-) :-) :-) Sounds racist, just like the libturds have been since the 1820’s. Here is an article describing how the Obama bin Laden administration knew their website would not work. Especially since it was made by a Canadian company.

          http://www.humanevents.com/2013/10/22/the-administration-knew-healthcare-gov-would-be-a-disaster/

          Keep up the good fight fellow patriot. No quarter! FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!

          You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot.

          “The Lord is my shepherd, I shall not want.”

          Psalms 23:1

  • Palin16

    testing 1-2-3