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The Nobel Peace Prize Winner's Kill List

June 1, 2012 by  

The Nobel Peace Prize Winner's Kill List
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Drone attacks occur frequently in countries where the United States is not at war.

Nobel Peace Prize-winning President Barack Obama has used drones as his personal angels of death (more than 281 times in Pakistan alone) to kill hundreds of people whom the Administration defines as “militants.”

What exactly is a militant? Allow The New York Times to explain:

Mr. Obama embraced a disputed method for counting civilian casualties that did little to box him in. It in effect counts all military-age males in a strike zone as combatants, according to several administration officials, unless there is explicit intelligence posthumously proving them innocent.

Counterterrorism officials insist this approach is one of simple logic: people in an area of known terrorist activity, or found with a top Qaeda operative, are probably up to no good.

Remember, these drone attacks occur frequently in countries where the United States is not at war. If police departments followed the Obama Administration’s logic about suspects, then they would shoot every innocent person in the immediate vicinity of a dangerously armed criminal or perhaps anyone who resides in a bad neighborhood.

The fact that a President who has been awarded a Nobel Peace Prize would kill all of the military-aged men in a given area only because it is one where terrorist activity is expected to have occurred is also largely ignored by Obama’s puppet media. Imagine the consternation that would occur within Obama’s base if it were reported that “all of the males old enough to hold a rifle have been killed in a recent drone strike” in each news piece about the latest place the President has taken upon himself to wage illegal, unConstitutional and unjust war. This state propaganda failing to report that an American President is ordering the deaths of innocent civilians falsely lowers the number of collateral damage deaths the public hears about.

But the people of Pakistan are well aware of the innocent death toll; for every “militant” Obama kills in their country, the number of Pakistanis willing to take up arms against the United States grows.

It has been reported that the President decides who lives and who dies with a set of baseball card-like terrorist profiles. Each gives names, ages, brief biographies and suspected activities, according to The New York Times. Some people have pondered the possibility that Obama is so fond of picking off suspected terrorists with drones because it eliminates the complications of detention, thereby taking focus away from the President’s failed promise to close Guantanamo Bay.

As revealed by the killings of Anwar al-Awlaki and his teenage son in Yemen, American citizens are also subject to assassination by the government when they appear on Obama’s “militant” cards.

While all of these occurrences have taken place in far-off lands where the average American does not witness the atrocities of Obama’s drone “war” firsthand, it is becoming increasingly evident that the U.S. government is doing what it can to bring drone strikes and “militant” killings to the homeland.

The National Defense Authorization Act that Obama signed into law earlier this year effectively removes Americans’ expectation to fair trial and provides the Federal government the right to detain U.S. citizens on U.S. soil if they are expected of being, or working with, terrorists. Meanwhile, the Department of Homeland Security has spent the past several years making it possible to label almost any activity as suspect terrorism, and the FBI has spent its time creating domestic terrorists out of thin air.

Using the fear that it has been able to put into the hearts of the American populace with manufactured domestic terror, the Federal government has convinced the Nation to accept drones over domestic skies. They are already being used for law enforcement and border patrol, and some people believe they will likely become more and more heavily armed in the next few years. Is it only a matter of time before Americans hear about drone strikes killing groups of “militants” in remote parts of the United States?

Denver-based author and radio host David Sirota seems to think that it may happen sooner than later. He used the White House’s “We the People” online petition application to create a petition for the government to create a “Do Not Kill List” in response to Obama’s lengthy kill list.

The petition reads:

The New York Times reports that President Obama has created an official “kill list” that he uses to personally order the assassination of American citizens. Considering that the government already has a “Do Not Call” list and a “No Fly” list, we hereby request that the White House create a “Do Not Kill” list in which American citizens can sign up to avoid being put on the president’s “kill list” and therefore avoid being executed without indictment, judge, jury, trial or due process of law.

At the time of this report, the petition had 2,065 of the 22,935 required signatures to be reviewed by the Administration. You can view or sign it here.

Sam Rolley

Staff writer Sam Rolley began a career in journalism working for a small town newspaper while seeking a B.A. in English. After learning about many of the biases present in most modern newsrooms, Rolley became determined to find a position in journalism that would allow him to combat the unsavory image that the news industry has gained. He is dedicated to seeking the truth and exposing the lies disseminated by the mainstream media at the behest of their corporate masters, special interest groups and information gatekeepers.

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  • kategray

    Someone had to been sick to give a prize to a do nothing person. He has held no job in the work force and has proven that he is one of the best liars.

    • Doc Sarvis

      President Obama has had several private sector jobs, not heavy hitting jobs but everyday jobs like many other Americans.

      • Murph

        Private sector jobs? He graduated from Columbia University in 1983, spent one year working as a research associate in the financial sector of BIC, where he interviewed big business Wall Street type business experts and reported on foreign currencies and market trends, currency swaps, and leverage leases. He then worked one year NYPIRG. You know, the one affiliated with US PIRG, (probably the most active lobbyist organization in the country). From 1985 to 1988 he was the director of DCP, developing job training and educational programs, tenants’ rights organization(s), and consulted in community organization activities. He then went to Harvard Law in 1988 working as a law associate in the summers, graduated in 1991, lectured at Harvard Law for a few years, and entered politics in 1997. His entire resume is geared for and focused on one thing; politics. He never pursued a career in the private sector, rather he was in successful pursuit of a c political career. Personally, I don’t care; this country is rife with career politicians, both GOP and Dem’s, but let’s not pretend Obama is more than what he is, he is first and foremost, the consumate politician.

      • upaces88

        Prove it, Doc.

      • Doc Sarvis

        After law school, Obama returned to Chicago to practice as a civil rights lawyer, joining the firm of Miner, Barnhill & Galland.
        Obama served as a professor at the University of Chicago Law School (a private school) for 12 years.
        From http://www.biography.com/people/barack-obama-12782369?page=2

      • Opal the Gem

        Once again doc sarvis uses diversion to draw attention away from the fact that obama did nothing before he received the peace prize to deserve it and has done nothing since receiving it to show he deserves it.

      • http://peresonallibertydigest.. gottaplenty

        Like what , Doc?

      • Doc Sarvis

        Opal the Jem
        kategray alleged that President Obama held no job in the workforce. That very first post started us down this particular path. I refuted that and was told to prove my statement. I did.

      • http://www.mototcarsfinancial.com Brad

        What proof of this do you have Doctor Oblamya lover Dumbass??

      • Kate8

        Doc – The allegations of O’s accomplishments are simply not supported by the facts:

        Staff who remember him from college say that he only showed up once or twice, was lazy, arrogant, and they didn’t particularly like him. It was obvious that he was enrolled simply to add it to his resume. They still can’t find classmates who remember his stellar achievements. Or him, for that matter.

        He never was a professor of anything. He was an unqualified teacher, maybe, but not a professor. Another untruth.

        He handed over his law license rather than face indictment for lying on his BAR application. He claimed that he had not used any aliases, among who-knows-what-else. Hence, he is no kind of lawyer.

        Michelle handed hers over, too, for some unethical behavior…don’t recall, but the info is available to anyone.

        He still is spending tax dollars to keep from having to open ANY records which could (?) verfiy his claims of his past. More likely, they’ll simply prove that it’s all fabrication.

        There is nothing real about this guy. And BTW, it was the democrats, themselves, who first opened the BC can of worms by making an issue of McCains birth out of the US but in US territory. So claims that O was only targeted because of race is just more lies.

        Geez. There are so many lies with this guy, it’s looking like the only thing true is his promise to “fundamentally change” America. He’s certainly doing that. Most of the jobs these days are government jobs…like your progressive blogging brigade. Must pay pretty well…but then, the guv has all the money.

      • Kate8

        Oh, and BTW, does anyone actually know what a “community organizer” does?

        Sounds like one of those fake titles, like “sanitation engineer”.

      • KHM

        @Doc Sarvis. As far as I know the only real private sector job was his brief stint at the law firm in Chicago. He was NOT a law professor at U of Chicago; he was an associate lecturer ( the lowest on the academic totem pole). We do not know if he actually graduated from Columbia, or even Harvard Law for that matter since all his records are sealed. Even in his own book he stated that he didn’t attend a lot of classes at Columbia, but hung out and shot basketball, drank and smoked. For someone who was supposedly Harvard Law Review editor why are there no records of anything he authored or edited? Most Law Review editors get multiple offers from prestigious high-power law firms, yet Obama apparently did not.
        As to the Nobel Peace Prize, he was barely eligible(time-wise), yet he was chosen. So this must have been in the bag before the election was even decided. This man’s life is all make-believe. Because so much has been handed to him, undeservedly, he believes it is now his due. That he has involved the US in so many conflicts and is using the kill list is so unconstitutional and mind-boggling.

      • Doc Sarvis

        Kate8,
        You wrote “Staff who remember him from college say that he only showed up once or twice, was lazy, arrogant, and they didn’t particularly like him.” Care to provide a citation for that?
        You also wrote; “He was an unqualified teacher,…”. Again, I’d like to see some documentation on that.
        You wrote; “He still is spending tax dollars to keep from having to open ANY records which could (?) verfiy his claims of his past.” Please show me how you know he is spending tax dollar on such a thing.
        From your post; “So claims that O was only targeted because of race is just more lies.” I didn’t say anything about him being targeted because of his race.

      • Doc Sarvis

        KHM,
        What time length is required doing what in order to be elibible for the Nobel Peace Prize?
        Why do you believe he did not deserve what he has received?
        He got our combat troops out of Iraq ahead of schedule and is working to get them out of Afghanistan as well. We had limited involvement in the Libya uprising. He is working to keep us out of war in Iran (which we can’t afford) even though the neo-cons are trying to insert us into a conflict there.
        You should become better informed.

      • Kate8

        Doc – YOU MAKE ME LAUGH. Documentation? It seems that, when it comes to Obama, NO DOCUMENTATION IS NEEDED.

        Why do you not ask that HE prove that he is who he says he is? His actions don’t suggest to you that he is hiding something?

        The truth is, there is ample documentation that he is not who he says he is. Do your own research. If I found it, so can you. But you’d rather close your eyes to any such info. You wouldn’t believe it if I showed you a thousand links to all of the evidence that has been collected about this guy, not only by investigative journalists, but by law enforcement.

        To wear blinders to the truth about ANYone holding public office is not only unwise, it’s unAmerican. We should not be allowing anyone in government to hide who they are. The people have the right to know who is running the WH.

        You can find this same info, including the legal tally, with a bit of research. It’s all there.

        But your mind is made up. You don’t need any stinkin’ facts.

      • Kate8

        Doc…Doc? You still around?

        Just thought you’d be interested in the latest.

        http://beforeitsnews.com/story/2209/073/Sheriff_Arpaio_and_his_team_are_planning_to_reveal_earth-shattering_information_that_demonstrates_a_huge_cover_up_and_that_it_is_international_in_implication_and_scope._This_cover-up_also_affects_US_national_security_and_involves_decades_of_subterfug.html

        All I can say is, they’d better not harm a hair on Arpaio’s head, like they did to Breitbart.

        So, when they prove to all that Obama is a usurper (we already know he’s a liar), are you still going to defend him?

        BTW, why is it that we can be arrested for just speaking about the One with hostility. Yet, he has granted himself the power to zap any one of us, any time he wants. Seems pretty unfair to me.

      • Deerinwater

        “Brad says:
        June 1, 2012 at 1:04 pm
        What proof of this do you have Doctor Oblamya lover Dumbass??”

        The name calling is uncalled for Brad ~ to defend a position is what we all do here, ~ It doesn’t make anyone a “lover” of anything other then the privileged and opportunity to debate.

        Do you have a problem with that? If so, you are in the wrong place for that is what we all do here.

        • upaces88

          Leave Brad alone. He isn’t inciting violence; and he has every right, just like the rest of us, to be scared, frustrated, angry, depressed and outraged. Obviously, you don’t understand what is going on. Who made you the elementary school mentality “hall monitor”?

    • Sharr

      Why isn’t the media exposing the Bilderberg Meeting in Chantilly, Virginia.
      The Bilderberg Meeting is being called “The Palm Tree Conference.”
      You know that there are a lot of palm trees in Chantilly, Virginia.
      It is being held May 31 – June 3, 2012.
      This cabal is all about the Globalist Agenda!! Really?????
      What about the Logan Act???
      Isn’t it illegal for Americans to attend that Bilderberg Group????
      Didn’t HillBill “Blue Dress” Clinton pay a $300,000 fine after she lied about going??

      • Kate8

        Well, Sharr, you are certainly right about that. There’s plenty about it on the internet, though.

        The “Americans” attending Bilderberg are treasonous scoundrels. They’ve pledged their loyalties to foreign globalist entities, thus usurping our government. Nothing they do anymore has any Constitutional basis. Quite the opposite.

        BTW, did you see this little clip? Interesting, huh? Should give a slight smile for the day…

        http://beforeitsnews.com/story/2209/105/Source:_Bilderberg_wants_Ron_Paul_dead.html

        We have to keep spreading the word, because we’re winning! Much more than we know.

      • Mary Mohanan

        I remember reading a newspaper my parents would get back in the 70′s and 80′s called The Spotlight. The Builderburgers have been meeting for many years. Yes , it is illegal for the political elites to meet together in secret. It isn’t reported in the media because George Soros is the head of the New World Order push and he controls the media.

      • Kate8

        Mary – Soros is part of it, but certainly not the head. In fact, he is one of the lower minions.

        Even the various royals are only part of it. The beginnings of the bloodlines go back further
        than we realize…perhaps all the way to Nimrod. In any case, the latest crop was organized by Amsel Bauer, who took the name of Rothschild. It is the Rothschild Dynasty of financiers who seem to be at the head of the beast, along with the Rockefellers (the American faction). I just read where the Rothschilds and Rockefellers entered into some kind of contract.

        BTW, while they claim to be Jewish, they are of Edomite ancestry. IOW, descendents of Ishmael and Esau, desert tribes from which stem the Islamic traditions.

        All of the royal bloodlines are intermingled now, and most of our presidents have had such blood in their veins, including Obama. The European bloodlines have intermingled with the Arabian/Islamic bloodlines now.

      • GrayStroke

        PRAVDA has done a better job of reporting it and a better job of assessment of the charade being held there. They also did a better job of explaining why Putin is maligned here in the USA. Because Putin is a nationalist, he is maligned. Is that such a bad thing for a president to care for the best interest of their country.

        We should try it once, instead of being global cops of the world to toe the new world order dictum.

        http://tinyurl.com/79zf4pw

    • upaces88

      Since he did nothing to deserve the Nobel Peace Prize…makes me wonder if he “BOUGHT IT”?

      • Doc Sarvis

        THAT is funny.

      • Kate8

        Doc – You think that’s funny????? You really think he deserved it?

        Who gets the Nobel Peace Prize, or any prize, when they’ve done absolutely NOTHING??

        All it does is prove that the prize is one big meaningless joke, just like its recipient. Now THAT might just be funny. Pathetic, but funny.

      • Deerinwater

        “Doc – You think that’s funny????? You really think he deserved it?”

        Kate , he said that it was “funny”, there was no mention of “deserving” implied.

        But now that you bring it forward, why not review it on it own merits?

        The Nobel Prize (Swedish pronunciation: [noˈbɛl], is a set of annual international awards bestowed in a number of categories by Scandinavian committees in recognition of cultural and scientific advances. The will of the Swedish chemist Alfred Nobel, the inventor of dynamite, established the prizes in 1895. The prizes in Physics, Chemistry, Physiology or Medicine, Literature, and Peace were first awarded in 1901.[1]
        The Peace Prize is awarded in Oslo, Norway, while the other prizes are awarded in Stockholm, Sweden. The Nobel Prize is widely regarded as the most prestigious award available in the fields of literature, medicine, physics, chemistry, peace and economics.[2]

        The Nobel Peace Prize is not awarded by a Swedish organisation but by the Norwegian Nobel Committee.

        Each recipient, or laureate, receives a gold medal, a diploma, and a sum of money which depends on the Nobel Foundation’s income that year. In 2011, each prize was worth kr10 million (c. US$1.46 million, €1.16 million). The prize is not awarded posthumously; however, if a person is awarded a prize and dies before receiving it, the prize may still be presented.”[3] A prize may not be shared among more than three people. The average number of laureates per prize has increased substantially over the 20th century.[4]

        These Norwegians evidently didn’t bother to ask either of us what “we think” , I don’t believe that they are required too.

        It would be this ” Norwegian committee” that you Kate need to address your concerns and not Doc or myself.

        I know little about the current Scandinavian people and only of their rich ancient Anglo Saxon past, how they came to be and the influence they made in early central Europe.

        If they want to hand out Awards, it’s their business and not mine.

        After “W’s” capricious 8 year rain of “terror” on the world stage, I can’t help but believe all us survivors found deserving some kind of an Award. I’m waiting for mine!

        I tend to think, Obama’s award more reflective of the “hopes” of the world community and what he might achieve after his achieving his bid for office and chairing single most powerful position in modern history of the whole world in spite of his linage and not because of it.

        Now, ~ Brad , that has nothing to do with “loving” but simple a matter of fact that you wish to hide from. This display does little in reflecting core American ideas or values but quite the contrary.

        To me, this “award” does little to tell us how great Obama might be or ever become but how God Awful sorry 43′s administration was viewed upon by the International Community.

        It’s like Samuel Clements once said, ” A man judges a good cigar by a bad one”.

        If you’ve never had “bad”, it hard to know what good is.

        The world had experienced “8 bad years” and hope springs eternal for a brighter future.

        • Gea

          Peace cannot be based on a delusion that Islam is a “peaceful religion” which Barak Hussein Obama believes and promotes by cavorting with the Islamists of Muslim Brotherhood and Taliban and helping CAIR and OIC white wash it in USA and UN. Delusional Jew hatred intinsic in Koran and Hadith are preventing peace in the Middle East and everywhere else in the world where sharia rules.

          Islam MUST REFORM to make it compatible with US Constitution and the Universal Declaration of Human Rights. By extolling Islam and Koran, and dissing Bible Barak Hussein Obama is endangering not only US soldiers and US but entire Western civlization. He MUST be retired in Novermber and sent back to Chicago, to write Dreams of My Mother, who was an interesing character falling twice for Marxist Muslim men who decieved her. US and entire world had been deceived by Obama since he is a great speaker and writer and a practicioner of taqiyya. Fool me once, shame on YOU, fool me twise shame on ME. Hopefullly, Americans who love democracy and human rights will wake up in time and even though Rumney is not a bed of roses, at least he will not pretend as Obama does.

    • javamnn

      Yes, he is one of the greatest but he had and has a lot of help.
      He certainly couldn’t have done it without Michelle!

      But who is he really?

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6tvti9um6k

  • JimCoast

    So, remind me again for what reason was he awarded a NPP?!? Not that this story matters to that, other than successfully duping millions of people into believing he’s legit, what has this farce of a leader done in his lifetime?

    • upaces88

      Because he was the first Black President?
      OR, like I said, “it was bought for him” to give him credibility.

      • Kate8

        upaces88 – I sure can’t think of any other reason.

  • Sirian

    Isn’t it unusual that the league of well known magicians haven’t bestowed Obummer with an award for misleading, misdirection, and pulling off one of the most fantastic tricks ever while on stage in full view of the entire nation?

    • upaces88

      You have a great idea for a political cartoon….seems by now someone would have come up with one just like that!

    • Jody

      It should be simply termed “slight of hand”. And you’re right, that would be the correct award.

  • Louis Lemieux

    Obama is doing his job well, protecting Americans from those who’s purpose in life is to harm others and working with those who believe money exist for people and not people existing for money.

    • http://www.mototcarsfinancial.com Brad

      And There You Have it Folks from Louis the French Fried FAG!!!

      • Kate8

        Louis – Interesting opinion. Based on what, exactly?

        Oh well. That makes a half-dozen of you, or so, who think that.

        I guess you think that because the MSM told you so? Because those who sign your blogging brigade check told you so?

        The thing about paid opinions is, you don’t know what you are talking about.

    • Louis Lemieux

      Romney is a venture capitalist and Obama is a human capitalist.
      Romney came up as a private-equity investor. Like his party, he believes in his heart that the way forward for the U.S. is to slash taxes for the wealthy even further so that they have more venture capital to invest in businesses.
      Obama came up as a community organizer. Like his party, he believes in his heart that a great nation must invest in human capital through education, health care and infrastructure.
      The venture-capital answer is to just cut taxes further and hope that the market will self-correct and this trend will reverse itself. The human-capital answer is to use the tax code to incentivize investment not just in plant and equipment, but in research and development and workforce training (where companies in the U.S. are investing about half as much as a share of gross domestic product as they did a decade ago).
      “Republicans have the view that if you cut taxes and don’t tie it to anything specific, you can still get real domestic development, but the last decade proves otherwise,” says Rob Atkinson of the nonpartisan Information Technology and Innovation Foundation. Atkinson favors what he calls a “new bargain” with business where taxpayers say “we’ll reward you with lower corporate taxes but you have to invest it in machinery, worker retraining and R&D.”

      • BenWhite

        LL have another toke on that .Smoke is smoke ask ooobumer

  • BigBadJohn

    I have said all a long that the biggest problem with Obama is that he is doing exactly the same things that Bush did.

    “But the people of Pakistan are well aware of the innocent death toll; for every “militant” Obama kills in their country, the number of Pakistanis willing to take up arms against the United States grows.”

    Gee Just like Iraq, the more civilians we killed the more we had to fight,

    “Using the fear that it has been able to put into the hearts of the American populace with manufactured domestic terror, the Federal government has convinced the Nation to accept drones over domestic skies. They are already being used for law enforcement and border patrol, and some people believe they will likely become more and more heavily armed in the next few years. Is it only a matter of time before Americans hear about drone strikes killing groups of “militants” in remote parts of the United States?”

    Gee just like GWB, “you are either for us or against us” – President Bush, in remarks meant to spur House Democrats into accepting a controversial new bill that would expand the government’s ability to spy on Americans, warned that the country faced terror strikes that would make September 11 “pale by comparison.”

    “The National Defense Authorization Act that Obama signed into law earlier this year effectively removes Americans’ expectation to fair trial and provides the Federal government the right to detain U.S. citizens on U.S. soil if they are expected of being, or working with, terrorists. Meanwhile, the Department of Homeland Security has spent the past several years making it possible to label almost any activity as suspect terrorism, and the FBI has spent its time creating domestic terrorists out of thin air.”

    Yes he signed it because the senate passed it with a VETO PROOF majority. He did issue signing statement that tie his hands but not the next presidents.

    • randall

      so, what is an domestic expected terrorist, someone who disagrees with govt policies???

      • s c

        Randall, this is a very simple matter. The day a prez stoops to making up kill lists is the day that we need NO further proof that Amerika’s freedoms are in deep jeopardy. Obummer’s Hitler-like followers will excuse ANYTHING and EVERYTHING he says and does.
        Weep, Amerika. Life is no longer a matter of trying to tolerate or “accept” freedom-hating vermin who call themselves ‘Amerikans.’ The enemy is HERE. So what’s next with ‘God’ in the W H? Babies and adults are already fair game. Will we see a death lottery? How long will it take before other “leaders” in other countries start making up their own kill lists and Amerikans show up on those lists?
        Obummer is consistent, Randall. He is utterly, absolutely NOT presidential material. No wonder he surrendered his license to practice law. Even ex-shysters can’t tolerate their own “INFALLIBILITY,” and they have an idea of what will happen after they have to return to living in the REAL Amerika. God save us. Washington, Obummer and his minions won’t.

      • Kate8

        randall – Last night, I picked up the Bible and opened to Psalm 59, where David is lamenting the wicked who were trying to kill him.

        In verse 8, he says, “But You, O Lord, shall LAUGH at them; You shall have all the nations in derision.
        O You his Strength, I will wait for You.”

        I though, wow! We are being controlled because we are afraid. Fear keeps us from seeing the Truth, and from entering into His Consciousness.

        What would happen if we just began to LAUGH AT THEM? Try it! Let’s laugh at them.

        The more we know, the weaker they get. Watch this very short clip, and you will see…

        http://beforeitsnews.com/story/2209/105/Source:_Bilderberg_wants_Ron_Paul_dead.html

        Darkness flees in the presence of Light. No if’s or maybe’s, it just does. It’s the Law.
        If we stand in the Light and do not fear, they can’t touch us.

        “Though a thousand fall at your side, ten thousand at your right hand; still, it shall not come nigh thee”. “No weapons formed against you shall prosper”.

        Do you know that, in increasing numbers, bombs are failing to detonate, and all kinds of other weaponry are failing to function?

        These are just weasely little men who hide in the shadows and pay people to do their bidding. Some of these people are not loyal to them.

        We’re Americans. We carry the spirit of freedom. How much oppression are we willing to withstand before we rise up and say, “ENOUGH!” Well, a lot for some, it seems. But there’s always the few, the little band of the undaunted, who step in to save the sorry rumps of those who cower behind rocks, and who never quite realize what sacrifice was made to save them.

        Anyway, we’ve done it before, and we’ll do it again. And thus goes the ever turning wheel of cycles.

    • eddie47d

      It’s a shame Big Bad John that you have to explain that to them. They say it’s not about Republicans vs Democrats yet they fall back into the same trap and do it themselves. We don’t need any Obama wars or any Bush wars and these drone attacks also puts us on a slippery slope even if they aren’t technically wars. Unless the cause and effect of military intervention is discussed then too many of these articles are nothing more than Obama bashing to keep him from being reelected. That means we will continue on the same path even if Romney gets elected. Thankfully Ron Paul gets it but the Republican Party has shut him out and we’ll have more of the same.

  • wolfmann

    And just how long before its used on us here in the US with or without us knowing about it

  • john m

    If you re a conspiracist it makes sense that a guy that has done NOTHING to obtain everything despite his associations with terrorists ans racist preachers, some one who has lied/disguised the truth about everything including his birth records, never held a real job, forfeited his law license, would be an easy pawn for the Bildebergers to to set up and preject their plans. The plan is simple. Reduce the population by 70% pandemics of disease, drones fo death, FEMA death camps, restriction of health care (Bamstercare) all are ways to infiltrate the cancer of a socialist dictatorship and conglomeration for a U.N. new world order…. thats if you could believe in such things
    John M.

    • eddie47d

      If the world’s population keeps growing and more people are stacked like sardines there will indeed be a pandemic. Travel has made diseases harder to control and faster to spread and yes as we build up immunity to one virus another one pops up. Someday there may not be a magic cure and many will die. A lack of sensible family planning in many parts of the world won’t keep us safe John so what are you doing about it.

  • Steve E

    Obama is a genius. He starts off by killing one or two Americans without trial. He sees that nothing is going to happen to him for that. He doesn’t get indited for murder or challenged by the press. So he can pick up the pace, killing more and more Americans until the people become numb to it. The next thing you know, he becomes great like Adolf and Stalin. And the American people will justify it. Man! What a genius.

    • eddie47d

      Obama won’t do any such thing. Comparing him to Hitler or Stalin is nothing more than a cheap thrill from the right wing.

      • upaces88

        Eddie, where have you been? If you are that far gone and haven’t been keeping up… no one is going to list the 64 things he has done to be impeached. It would be a total waste of time… and that is not to mention all he has done to hurt our Military.

      • upaces88

        Obama:
        Obama decides the Ft Hood Shooting was a case of “Work place violence”; instead of Islam infiltrating Our Military;
        Rips the Military Budget as he gives politicians a raise;
        Cancels Military Retirement;
        Changes the Rule of Military Combat Pay;
        Ships shell casings of ammunition to China.
        Announces to the world about the cut in Nukes;
        Saudi(s) black mail him for more $$;
        Orders the Military to lie about Afghanistan;
        Flags are flown at half staff when a hero dies — allows the American Flag at half mast for a black singer;
        Decides NOT to give a Purple Heart to the survivors of the Ft. Hood Shooting calling it “work place violence”;
        Fraudulent Affirmative Action Picked for Head Drill Sergeant;
        Slashes 1,200 National Guard to 300 along the borders for Terrorists to enter;
        Despite his approving of Sodomy and Bestiality — Military Restores Ban;
        Disrespects Seal families;
        Veterans’ Cemetery must ban “GOD and Jesus from Military graves.”
        Violates the rights of Military Chaplains.
        Lies about bin Laden’s death…won’t show pictures or video of Islamic burial at sea….lies about helicopter crash
        No seals were Injured during Bin Laden raid…however, those who knew died (can’t remember the exact number)
        Repeals DADT….
        Wanted injured military to pay for their own medical expenses because they had volunteered to fight in the military…..
        (12/28) Breaks Promise to Military and keeps Troops in Afghanistan until 2014
        (01/12) Obama quietly signed the NDAA, the National Defense Authorization Act, which nullifies the Bill of Rights and declares America to be a “battleground” in which all American citizens can be arrested, imprisoned, tortured and even killed with no due process.
        (2/09) Obama Guts Military and gives Bureaucrats a Raise
        (2/10) Denies Hero(s) Purple Hearts — calling Ft. Hood Shootings as Work Place Violence
        (2/14) Military Chaplains charged with sedition/Treason for teaching against sin
        (2/16) Military to Fake Belly, Breast to better understand how females in the Military feel;
        (2/25) Our Military burned Koran and Obama apologized causing the deaths of two Officers who were unarmed were shot in the back of the head in a secured location.
        2/26 Obama doesn’t stand with Military as NATO tries to prosecute the Military men who burned Koran;
        (2/26) Military Refuses to take orders from him;
        (2/26) Takes healthcare away from Military;
        Triples co-pay on their insurance.
        (2/27) Obama mocks Military by burning a Bible
        (2/27) Military now responsible for their own health care (even when they come back from the Middle East without a limb, etc.)
        Under the Radar, he sends troops to 4 African countries
        Changes Rules of Engagement
        Forcing Troops to Lie about the Progress in Afghanistan
        Obama threatens Chaplains: “You can’t preach against me in chapel.”

        (3/4/12) Obama threatens Chaplains: “You can’t preach against me in chapel.”
        (right after this) Chaplains cannot preach against sin
        3/27/2012 — Tax “our” Military to give to HIS New Military
        4/14 – Army Generals Plead With Obama “Bring them HOME”
        (4/23) – Military Rates Obama as the worst President they have served with
        (4/25) Seals Blast Obama for using them as Campaign tools for going after Osama Bin Laden
        (05/01/12) Forcing New West Point Cadets to become PC for Muslims
        (05/04/12) Forced Our Military to shove their butts in the air praying position to Islam
        (05/05/12) Cuts Military Budget “again” setting us up for defeat
        (05/06/12) Chip under the skin for Military Personnel
        (05/09/12) Backs Taliban as they Kill Our Military
        (05/09/12) Claims Military are fighting on “his” behalf
        (05/10/12) Obama Releases Taliban Terrorists while Military Man Held captive for 3 yrs
        (05/11/2012) Obama Suspended Classes on Islam — The way to save the world is through Nukes (like WWII)…
        05/13/2012) Slashes Military Budget for healthcare to build $750,000 exercise facilities for Muslims who are incarcerated
        (05/13/2012) Obama Cuts $13 Billion from TriCare for Military
        (05/14/2012) Obama offers purple heart to the victims of terror BUT NOT those at Ft. Hood+ considered Ft. Hood “work Place Violence”
        05/16/2012) The Navy just fired it’s 16th command officer for 2011 REPLACED w/Obama Appointee
        Navy Commander Fired Over Falsified Records REPLACED w/ OBAMA Appointee
        NAVY FIRED Five Attack Submarines CO’s REPLACED w/ OBAMA Appointees
        Navy Fires 10th CO This Year REPLACED w/ OBAMA Appointee
        Navy Relieves CO of New Ship REPLACED w/ OBAMA Appointee
        Navy Medicine CO Fired for Poor Command Climate REPLACED w/ OBAMA Appointee
        USAF CHIEF OF STAFF FIRED REPLACED w/ OBAMA Appointee
        NORTHCOM Commander fired REPLACED w/ OBAMA Appointee
        15 ARMY GENERAL FIRED REPLACED w/ OBAMA Appointee
        5 MARINE GENERALS FRIED REPLACED w/ OBAMA Appointee
        ( 05/21/12) President Betrayed Troops by releasing a known terrorist killer
        (05/23/12) Obama Undermines Troops Putting Taliban in Power as They KILL OUR TROOPS;
        (05/28/12) Memorial Day: Makes the day to honor OUR Troops all about him
        (06/01/12) Veto promise comes because House GOP leaders are breaking faith with last summer’s budget deal by cutting overall funding for agency operating budgets by $19 billion,almost 2 percent.

      • upaces88

        1. Obama and unrepentant terrorist William Ayers misappropriated over 300 million dollars in donations meant for the education of Chicago’s minority students. They routed the money to Obama’s community activist buddies who then tried to turn the students in radicals. The program was a total failure.

        2. Obama, as an Illinois State Senator, redirected tens of millions in Illinois tax dollars to Valerie Jarrett and Tony Rezko, to provide housing for low income families. They returned the favor with political donations. The housing units were built with cheap materials and labor and are uninhabitable after a mere 10 years of use.

        3. Obama accepted millions in illegal campaign contributions from foreign credit cards after the credit card filters used to screen out foreign money, was switched off. This also allowed domestic donors, who were over the legal limit, to contribute more.

        4. Obama and SecState Clinton’s efforts to bring the US under the UN’s Small Arms Treaty are direct violations of the Second Amendment of the US Constitution.

        5. Obama attempted to move control of the Census Bureau from the Commerce Department to the White House, to be managed by then Chief of Staff Rahm Emmanuel.

        6. Obama had provided under the radar amnesty to illegal immigrants by allowing ICE Director John Morton to prohibit ICE officers from enforcing US immigration laws.

        7. Obama allowed USAG Holder to ignore the violation of US immigration laws in the sanctuary cities, i.e.,San Francisco, etc.

        8. Obama has failed to defend US soil in Arizona as Mexican troops bring illegals and drugs into the USA, crossing the border doing so. This is a direct violation of Article IV, Section 4 of the Constitution.

        9. Obama illegally fired the IG Walpin for investigating Obama’s buddy, Mayor Kevin Johnson (Sacramento), for fraud (850K) with AmeriCorps.

        10. Obama is in contempt of Federal court for his illegal oil drilling moratorium in the Gulf.

        11. Obama spent a month as the UN Security Council Chair in 2009, which raises the question of his conflict of interest between the US and the UN. This is also likely a violation of his Oath of Office as the UN conflicts with our Constitution on many levels, i.e., LOST, UN Small Arms ban, etc.

        12. Obama signed an EO in December 2009 that allows Interpol to operate in the US without oversight by Congress, courts, FBI, or local law enforcement.

        13. Obama and SecState Clinton misappropriated, er, used $23 million in US taxpayer funds to help Obama’s homeland of Kenya move to a communist nation where the freedom of speech, private property rights, and other rights are subservient to “social justice”. This includes the fact that the Kenyan constitution adopted Sharia Law, which violates the basic human rights of women.

        14. Obama was likely involved with then Governor Rod Blagojevich to try and sell his Illinois Senate seat, i.e., pay to play. Jesse Jackson Jr is under investigation for it and it appears that Valerie Jarrett might also have been involved.

        15. Obama ran a website that asked Americans to report on other Americans, in the area of ObamaKare, using whitehouse.gov and taxpayer money to do so. He repeated this with AttackWatch.

        16. Obama got onto the Indiana ballot through voter fraud in 2008.

        17. Obama sealed all of his records that would show that he is possibly an illegal president, that he is feloniously using a false SSN, that his draft registration number is false, that his Fulbright award was falsely awarded as Obama claimed foreign student status, and that his student aid was falsely obtained.

        18. Obama violated the Constitution by firing the GM CEO.

        19. Obama violated bankruptcy laws by forcing GM bondholders to accept millions of dollars in losses of money that they were legally entitled to.

        20. Obama violated bankruptcy laws by awarding the UAW with a share of GM and Chrysler during their bankruptcy proceedings.

        21. Obama bought votes for ObamaKare with acts like, “Cornhusker Kickback”, “Louisiana Purchase” and the DoI increasing water allocations toCalifornia’sCentral Valley. This brought in the votes of Dennis Cardoza and Jim Costa, both Democrat holdouts.

        22. Obama lied about Americans being able to keep their healthcare coverage if they wanted to. ObamaKare is already forcing them out of their current coverage.

        23. Obama attempted to bribe Joe Sestak with a job offer in order to get him to drop out of the Senate race against Arlen Specter.

        24. Obama bypassed Congress and told the EPA to set carbon emission standards.

        25. Obama forced BP to pony up a $20 billion slush fund to compensate Gulf Coast businesses and residents affected by the BP oil spill. It was administered by one of Obama’s political appointees and there is NO Congressional oversight.

        26. Obama did nothing to Holder (abetted a felony) when Holder refused to prosecute two New Black Panther Party members for brandishing weapons in front of a voting location in Filthadelphia. A direct violation of the voters Civil Rights.

        27. Obama bypassed the Senate with a recess appointment of Donald Berwick as the head of the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services. Violates policy.
        http://www.speaker.g…/?postid=273766

        28. Obama bypassed the Senate with many of his appointments of over 30 “czars.”

        29. Obama illegally fired Sherry Sherrod from the USDA over remarks she made at an NAACP meeting in March 2010. He violated her due process.

        30. Obama violated contractual law when his regime cancelled 77 oil field development contracts previously approved by Interior Secretary Ken Salazar, under Bush 43’s administration. This keeps us from extracting from 2-3 TRILLION barrels of oil.

        31. Obama used the DHS to determine the political affiliation of Americans making FOIA requests about the Regime. This led to requests being stalled, lost, etc.

        32. Obama instigated a revolution in Egypt against an ally in the War on Terror.

        33. Obama violated the War Powers Act of 1973 by conducting a war against Libya without Congressional authorization.

        34. Obama lied to the American people when he said that there were no US troops on the ground in Libya and then later said they were only “logistical troops.”

        35. Obama acted in April 2009, at the G20 meeting, to expand the Special Drawing Rights, that now gives the IMF more control over the US economy.

        36. Obama gave missile codes to British Trident missiles to Russia.

        37. Obama passed the Dream Act through an executive order, bypassing Congress again. DREAM is: Development, Relief and Education for Alien Minors.

        38. Obama gave taxpayer funds to Solyndra (amongst others).

        39. Obama issued an EO on July 12, 2011, attempting to restrict the Second Amendment rights of US citizens in Texas, California, New Mexico and Arizona.

        40. Obama’s allowed the FCC to assume authority over the internet, in direct violation of a federal appeals court that DENIED the commission that authority. In December, the FCC voted and passed the first federal regulations on internet traffic.

        41. Obama allows the DHS/TSA to routinely violate the 4th/5th Amendment rights of Americans at airports, train stations, and VIPER checkpoints.

        42. Obama allows the DOJ in 2009 to stop enforcing federal drug laws in regards to marijuana.

        43. Obama allows the DOJ to refuse to enforce the Defense of Marriage Act.

        44. Obama attempted to bypass Congress and raise the Debt Ceiling by “reinterpreting” the 14th Amendment.

        45. Obama just bypassed the Senate AGAIN by appointing Richard Cordray to a new unconstitutional agency, the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau. Violates policy.
        http://www.speaker.g…/?postid=273766

        46. Obama deprived the due process of two U.S.citizens, Anwar al-Awlaki and Samir Khan, by assassinating them via a CIA drone attack in Yemen on Sept. 30, 2011. This also raises the question of an act of war against Yemen for firing into a sovereign nation. Obama said in 2008: “No. I reject the Bush Administration’s claim that the President has plenary authority under the U.S. Constitution to detainU.S.citizens without charges as unlawful enemy combatants.”

        47. Obama allowed Education Secretary Arne Duncan to grant waivers to No Child Left Behind however, this is a law enacted by Congress and neither Obama nor Duncan have the authority to authorize that.

        48. Obama allowed the bailouts to grant money without the authority to do so. “No money shall be drawn from the treasury, but in consequence of appropriations made by law.” Article 1, Section 9, Clause 7U.S.Constitution

        49. Obama allowed Operation Castaway to occur, which allowed firearms laws to be broken through coercion of legal gun dealers.

        50. Obama allowed Operation Fast and Furious to occur, which allowed hundreds of Mexican nationals and Border Agent Brian Terry to be murdered with illegal arms given out by the ATF and DOJ.

        51. Obama bypassed the Senate to appoint three people to the National Labor Relations Board. (Naturally, they’ll all be Obomobots) Violates policy.
        52. Asks Permission from the UN in order for us to go to war.
        53. Consults with UN on his concerns of “allowing voter fraud” by NO I.D. at the time of voting.
        54. 3/17/2012 — Made law for “Peaceful Martial Law.”
        55. 3/20/2012 — Military and 2nd Amendment rights under the UN?
        http://coffeeandsleeplessnights.wordpress.com/2012/03/09/4729/
        56. On an open microphone, he told Putin, Russia, that he just needs more time and he can be more “flexible”…
        My question? Flexible for what?
        57. (05/07/12) Obama secretly releases Taliban Fighters
        58. (05/07/12) Black Lists the Black List *huh”?
        59. (05/07/12) Obama States He does not need congress to act;
        60. (05/08/12) Obama attempts to have UN tell US Citizens to give up guns; Supreme Ct Steps in to Negate Defending the U.S.’Right for guns
        61. (Sec. of Defense, Leon Panetta, under “authority” from Obama, stating they will bypass Congress by seeking authority from the U.N., for military action, under proceedings in Congress now.
        62. (5/21/12) Obama Allowed 20,000 Shoulder-fired Missiles To Be Obtained By Al-Qaida

        http://www.speaker.g…/?postid=273766

        UNKNOWN: How many violations of his Oath of Office.

        “I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States.”
        http://www.fftodayforums.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=398744

    • boyscout

      O is simply the latest face representing the powers that be who will continue to escalate their usurpation of the American citizen’s constitutionally granted liberty. And, as we no longer respect our own, why trifle over who kills or tortures who around the globe ? And, so what if there is no foreseeable profit; once ALL of the world’s resources are corporately owned, non interference pacts can be formed to virtually ensure elitist domination of, … well, everything tangible and intangible.
      Think global, act local, vote with your head and your heart.

      • Vicki

        “….American citizen’s constitutionally granted liberty.”

        GUARANTEED not granted. Our right to liberty is from GOD not government. The government was hired to PROTECT our rights not to grant them.

    • Kate8

      Steve E – There is one who is said to be able to do just that.

      “And the people marveled, and said, ‘Who can make war against the beast?’”

  • roger gunderson

    The US has no more right to bomb and kill people with drones in other countries, then they have to do the same. Its impossible to bomb”one” person without killing everybody around for blocks or miles and a 50% chance of not hitting the target or hitting the intended spot but the “victim” wasn’t there and killing all innocent people. Just what right do we have to do this?. I don’t wonder at all why we have so many countries, groups, individuals would hate the USA. And when they do attack us, like 911, were so full of indignation that we go start 2 wars in Afghanistan and Iraq that last 10 years,killing hundreds of thousands, spending trillions of dollars. The USA is the 600 pound gorilla with a self-righteous ego problem.

    • Buster the Anatolian

      “The US has no more right to bomb and kill people with drones in other countries, then they have to do the same. Its impossible to bomb”one” person without killing everybody around for blocks or miles…”

      Roger you need to go away and come back when you have some inkling of what you are talking about. The drones do not carry block buster bombs much less bombs powerful enough to kill everyone within miles.

  • Robert

    ” people in an area of known terrorist activity, or found with a top Qaeda operative, are probably up to no good.” Hmm does that mean then Diane Fienstien, and Hillary Clinton is on the Obama’s hit list. They talk with the Muslim Brotherhood (which is just another arm of the Al-Qaeda, Humas, and Taliban,in short radical terrorists). A quote from a 1950′s horror classic comes to mind. At the end of the Movie IT came from outerspace the reporter says ” Wach the skies, keep wacthing the skies “. In this case it may be a killer drone instead of a space alien. Of course our politicians would be excused from Obama’s kill list, unless they were Republicans. and the part about of military age males. Wonder how many of our troops coming home will be placed on that list.

  • http://www.cindynel.co.za pete

    Just wondering if he really is so tough or just talks tough just like cowards do. No wonder the Pakistani’s hate him and America just like so many other folks on the planet do. Bully boys are never popular, especially when they hide behind the ‘ men ‘ doing the bullying and are always claiming the glory when a kill is made. That just makes them idiots.

    • Ron

      When Obama paraded up and down on that aircraft carrier wearing that little flight suit, I felt the exact same way–he’s taking credit for what our military did! They did the fighting and dying and he gets to shamelessly c-r-o-w that he’s the “War President” and “Decider”–and that anyone who disagrees with him is a traitor!

      At one point Obama even had the America-hating cojones to get up in front of cameras and say that it didn’t matter if we caught Bin Laden–after he’d sent troops into harm’s way in the longest war in American history and blew $4 trillion dollars that we ain’t got doing it!

      That was Obama, right? The America-hater, right?

      Fox News has me all mixed up on this. But I’m pretty sure that must’ve been Obama.

      • BigBadJohn

        LOL

        Yup it was Obama strutting around under that “Mission Accomplished” and then getting 4500 more of our troops killed.
        It must have been Obama who lied us into this war in the first place.
        It must have been Obama that turned a 150 billion dollar deficit into a 1.4 TRILLION dollar deficit. Or am I getting him mixed up with someone else?????

      • Kate8

        BBJ – Aren’t you getting tired of spewing that Bush/Obama nonsense yet? Have you seen anyone here singing the praises of Bush?

        I mean, we GET that they are just 2 heads of the same beast.

        Do YOU?

      • BigBadJohn

        Kate maybe you get it that they are two heads from the same beast but most of the folks here don’t. They keep spewing the nonsense that Romney is better than Obama, that it is the democrats that are destroying America while ignoring what the republicans did to us during the 2000′s.

        Two Heads from the same beast

  • Gea

    Islamic terrorist threat is VERY real. Just read koran and Hadith to see what Islam is teaching their children…hate of non-Muslims, misogyny, apartheid (dhimmitude), pedophilia, polygamy and murder for Allahu Akbar. After all, the terrorists of 9/11, whenj plunging planes into WTO, did not shout Hail Mary, Our Father, Shema Israel or OM, but Allahu Akbar, which had become a war cry of ALL islamsits around the world, including domestic born and educated Muslims, such as Dr. Nidal Hasan who murdered 13 of his collegues at Fort Hood, while shouting Allahu Akbar.

    Islam MUST reform since its teachings are the root cause of terrorism and Barak Husein Obams is endangering not only US solders but US and entire Western civlization by negotiating with Muslim Brotherhood nad Taliban. While the kill lists may be obejctionable, killing those who had already murdered many people is a just response. The question is WHO decides about those eliminations and how accurate are those lists to make sure that the guys killed are all murderers.

    • Ron

      Unfortunately, while what you’re saying is largely true, the problem is that America has consistently blown EVERY opportunity to encourage moderate, western democracies in the Islamic world–replacing them with radical Islamic dictatorships…starting in 1953 when we overthrew the democractically-elected president of Iran ’cause he wouldn’t give BP oil for pennies on the dollar.

      We could’ve had our most hated enemy Iran as an ally over 50 years ago and we’ve been up to no good over there ever since…which is why we keep manufacturing enemies faster than we can kill them all.

      Americans may not know the truth about American history, but that doesn’t mean the rest of the world is similarly misinformed.

      Don’t let Rick Santorum hoodwink ya into thinking it’s okay not to get an education.

      • Gea

        it is all about oil, stupid! As long as US and the Western world depends on Arab and Iranian oil, we are doomed, since our politicians will sell their mother for oil interests. Saudi citizens had committed 9/11 while chanting Allahu Akbar, and our Rambo Presient Barak Hussein Obama bows to Saudi King, and extolls Islam and Koran while dissing Bible.

        The Brits and French let the highest ranking Nazi war criminal, Amin al Husseini, the Mufti of Jerusalem “escape” from the villa in Southern France, in 1946 and get to Cairo where together with the Muslim Brotherhood he riled up Muslim mobs to kill the Jews in the Arab world, That is why Arab countries are now Juden Frei just, as now Christians are also being driven out by the Islamists.

        Our Commander in Chief is acting more like a Caliph in Chief and is endangering not only US soldiers in Afghanistan, but US and the entire Western civlization by catering to Islamists from Taliban and Muslim Brotherhood with occasional killings from drones to make believe that he is fighing Islamic terrorists.

        We MUST go GREEN, since it is much cheaper than being fossil and non-Sustainable as we are now. We can do it if we each harvest solar, wind and geothermal energy at the locations where we live and replace internal combusion engines with electromotors powered by electricity from renewable energy. When oil money dries out the Islamists will sink into the sands of history where they belong.

      • Ron

        Really? “It’s About Oil, Stupid”? Try telling that the oil company drill-baby-drilla corporate shills that comment on this site. They constantly beat the blunthammer that Obama has betrayed America through support for green technology development in opposition to our Christian Oil Providers–what I like to call oil companies ’cause they’re all from Jesus.

        They accuse him of betraying America’s Energy Security for not drilling all of America’s oil out and dumping it on the world market to the highest bidder–namely China and India. It seems like the safest energy security would be to leave it beneath the ground on American soil until we actually need it–while we try to catch up with other, smarter nations in developing alternative energy–rather than just hand it over to the oil companies who will dump it on the market and cash it in for CEO bonuses. Nothing treasonous in throwing America under the bus for our God-fearing CEO’s, of course, because we’re all going to end up laying down our lives in defense of America’s real jihadist religion–capitalism. It will turn us all into suicide bombers, chanting “Capitalism Akhbar”, before it’s finished with us.

        I guess the only thing that unites people on this site is their hatred of this guy who’s in the White House, ‘half cause he doesn’t do enough for the oil companies and half cause he’s done too much. And he’s either a secret Muslim or he’s killing too many Muslims. Take your pick.

        It’s good to have a target to hate, though. It’ll keep us from getting anything done. That’s all the Republicans need to accomplish. Like the North Vietnamese during the war, they don’t have to win to secure power–they just have to not lose and wait out the enemy.

        They like to call it Waterloo, and with enough mind erasure, it’ll make Cheney and W look like Great American Patriots. They might not have ever fought in a war, but they did chimp up on the war button and lead us into the Longest War In American History. If that ain’t patriotic, I dunno what is.

        Doing nothing for America will acheive Republican aims just fine, and after Obama’s gone, they’ll stick Cheney 2.0 in there and then–let the wars begin! Oil companies and the rest of the military industrial complex will make a ton-o’-money just like they did in the Decider’s War, and as an added bonus: we kill off some future “welfare queens”–leaving more for those at the top, who won’t be doing any of the fighting anyway.

        I can’t wait till Cheney 2.0 addresses a war-torn, broke nation and asks with a smirk:

        “Why does the rest of the world hate us? They hate us for our freedoms!”

  • http://personalliberty.com Texas

    I will never vote for Obama, but he sure has it right with his kill list. Think everyone would agree, except for the liberals, that the enemy we are fighting today makes the drones and kill list necessary. Do not expect any help from Pakistan, they are part of the problem.

    • Ron

      As I’ve said elsewhere here:

      The half of you on here that hate Obama for being soft on Islam should talk to the half of you on here that hate Obama for killing Islamic terrorists.

  • http://loboviejo.wordpress.com loboviejo

    It’s amazing that someone in Vegas has not come up with the term “Capo in Chief.” Here we have a President breaking new ground. Nixon has nothing on Obama–enemies lists go back as far as John Adams. Eisenhower got more flak for signing the death warrant for the Rosenbergs who had been convicted in a Court of Law than Obama got for icing Anwar al
    Alawki’s 16-year-old son as collateral damage. Come to think of it, Shrub took more flak for collateral damage than Obama. Gonzalez’ justification of torture was properly criticized by the press, but the critics of Holder claiming the authority of the President to order hits on his own seem to be marginalized. The New York Times seems to have awakened–let’s hope this becomes a trend.

    Impeachment anyone.

  • roger that

    The illegal occupier/ soreholes tool doesn’t care one wit about this REPUBLIC. His sole intention is to DESTROY IT!! GOD help US if he’s put back into office! We will be doomed!!!! Look how much havoc he has
    already brought upon us.

    • Doc Sarvis

      Yes, I really wish Osama bin Laden was still alive along with several of his top aids (NOT). I wish we still had combat troops in Iraq and were nowhere near getting combat troops out of Afghanistan (NOT). I wish our auto industry was dead (NOT). I wish our standing in the world was laughable like back in 2008 (NOT). So much more (NOT).

      • http://www.mototcarsfinancial.com Brad

        Doc in realism the American Motors Died many years ago. Ford is the wiser of the bunch with zero bailout. GM is broke again and worth 30 cents on dollarof the bailout and Chrysler is right behind them if not worse. I’m a dealer I knoiw the truth idiot. Idiot = beleives anything the KING GOD OBAMA says = Idioto

      • Doc Sarvis

        Might want to check your facts Brad.
        http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2835415/posts
        “Less than two years after emerging from bankruptcy,General Motors Co.has regained the title of the world’s largest automaker.
        GM’s worldwide sales rose 7.6% to 9 million vehicles in 2011. The Detroit manufacturer last held the top spot in 2007 before it was surpassed byToyota Motor Corp.the next year.”

      • Vigilant

        And you might want to check YOUR facts, Sarvis:

        http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=Lvl5Gan69Wo

  • WilliamWallace

    Its only a matter of time before drones will be used to indiscriminately murder American citizens labeled as “militants” right here in the USA.

    • upaces88

      William, I hate to agree with you, but I do.
      I was just asked to sign a petition to him…and there is NO WAY I will do that OUT OF FEAR of retaliation of some kind.
      Did you know that as of 3 weeks ago, we are 47th on the Freedom Index of the World?

      • http://wildeyguns.com Wildey

        A simple definition of terror is: A physical or psychological act, violent in nature, done to gain submission. Tell me, aren’t we talking about terrorizing the American people by their own goverment? Isn’t that what the DHS does? Are the people submitting to acts akin to what the colonist revolted against? It is a known fact, more people are persecuted by their own government than any invading army. Why should America be the exception when we’re letting “the” government play by the same rules?

      • Vicki

        People should go read the list of reasons in the Declaration of Independence and compare to today.

  • Ron

    And to think…the guy could be a Republican and he’d be a flaming PATRIOT for doing all the same crap that he’s being reviled on here for.

    Back when Cheney was President he dragged us down the road into adopting torture as official U.S. policy, met secretly with oil company executives without EVER divulging the contents of those meetings (for the record, it’s worth noting that gas prices spiked and have never come down since then), and presided over a party that has shoved phony “get tough on crime” legislation on us for a generation to create a private corporate prison cottage industry that now incarcerates more Americans than any other country on earth.

    “U-S-A! U-S-A! We’re number one!”

    Of course, we also have a bigger defense budget than the next 6 countries on earth combined, have for generations created a network of bases policing the world for our corporate interests, have used the government to intervene repeatedly on behalf of corporate interests (Iran 1953, Guatemala 1954, Iran/Iraq in the 1980s come to mind) and are sitting on more nuclear weapons than anyone else on earth.

    A President who is playing whack-a-mole with “turrists” oughta be something you guys should be happy with–you gave Cheney a blank check for almost a decade and said that anyone who didn’t sign on with those draft-dodgers was a traitor. I can only assume you’d rather he roll out the tanks in big wide-body, wrap-your-hiney-in-the-flag and sing Lee Greenwood songs, olde-fashionede shootin’ war like we did in Operation Iraqi Liberation? (O.I.L.) That was such a moment of glory for America, I still get goose-bumps thinkin’ about those pictures of that hillbilly girl with a cigarette hangin’ out of her mouth, pointin’ at that tortured Iraqi guy’s pee-pee.

    “U-S-A! U-S-A! We’re number one!”

    I have no doubt that several wars will be a big part of a nutritious Republican “Jobs Plan”–blow a lot of money on munitions, create more enemies around the globe, make us feel all fakey-patriot inside so we won’t mind middle-class poverty, and also kill off lots and lots of future “welfare-queens”–potentially jobless people.

    That last feel-good fakey-patriot war cost us the $4 trillion dollars worth of new deficit that y’all are constantly flogging the middle class to try to recover. Fortunately the Cheney Tax Cuts made sure the well-heeled didn’t feel any of the economic pain. Check the books, they did quite well during Cheney’s regime.

    But y’all were silent back then. In fact, Lord Limbaugh squawked that everyone who didn’t get in, sit down, shut up, and hang on was an America-hating traitor. So this fakey hand-wringing over Obama’s trying to be another “War President” and “Decider” rings a little disingenous.

    I only thank God that when they got Bin Laden, he didn’t dress up in a big-boy flight suit and strut and crow on the deck of an aircraft carrier to make the announcement.

    Once was enough for that kind of national humiliation. No wonder the world thinks we’ve become a nation of Beavis and Buttheads. “W” was our first Beavis and Butthead President, after all–elected because he wasn’t heavy on “elitist” book-learnin’ but the kinda guy that you could go out and get a DUI with.

    Yet we only get a lukewarm, mumbly apology at best for that decade-long debacle from the rabid right–and suddenly all the nations’ ills that you shrilly trumpet here have apparently all just happened in the last 3 years, presumably through the Wicked Miracle of ObamaCommuNaziNig-aKenyanHomoSocialist Voodoo.

    And the Republican Prescription is to re-install another Cheney 2.0 in the White House? (I say this because I’ve watched the Tea Party throw EVERYONE in the Republican Party who is moderate or capable of compromise–or occasionally has read a book–under the bus if they won’t bow and kiss the ring of Lord Limbaugh and Lady Ann).

    WHY should I believe that you all aren’t just shills for a big corporate takeover of America? After all, big corporations pledge allegiance, not to the American people, but to their multinational shareholders. Corporations run our prisons, have fielded private armies (thanks to President Cheney for that one), and are apparently the only “persons” in America for whom you constantly plead for more freedom to loot the place for everything they can take.

    Why is All Government From Satan but All Corporations Are From Jesus?

    That just sounds a little too simplistic and Fox-Newsy to me.

    But then, Rick Santorum DID say that Americans should stay ignorant and uneducated, and any attempt to encourage them to do otherwise was “being a snob”. So maybe ignorant and uneducated is just the way Fox News likes ‘em.

    I love the United States of America, by the way.

    I just hate the Confederate States of America, all rich-oligarchy and sharecroppers and slaves–and 100% uppity-ness-free.

    And I think y’all are ACHING to re-install the Confederacy on America once again, after 750,000 Americans died destroying it the first time. I’ve watched over the decades as you are resurrecting its entire political platform, one plank at a time.

    • http://peresonallibertydigest.. gottaplenty

      Hey ron . those guys with the white coats carrying straight jackets are on thier way over to your house. ive never heard such a load of crap. The south will rise again……

      • Ron

        Nixon sold the GOP to the Confederacy in 1968, according to his campaign strategist, Kevin Phillips–helping him become the first Republican since Civil War I to sweep the former Confederacy–by appealing to it’s love of state’s rights, fear and distrust of the swarthy races, and suspicion of people who read books. It’s high irony that they managed to turn the Party of Lincoln into the Party of John Wilkes Booth. Lincoln wouldn’t be permitted to be a Republican nowadays, he was way to liberal for the Tea Party. So I guess, technically, that means that modern Republicans are the RINOs, since they embrace the ideology that hated Lincoln.

    • http://wildeyguns.com Wildey

      I hate to tell you, it was the democrat Wilson that dragged America into WW1. It was the democrat FDR that dragged America into WW11. It was the democrat Johnson that dragged us into Viet Nam. It was the democrat Truman that dragged us into Korea. Don’t get me wrong. I’m simply pointing out “Republicrats” are running the show. While we play the game fighting with each other, they’re, collectively, running rampant over the American people. FDR said.. “When you see something happening in politics, you can bet there not just happening, they were planned that way”. One of the biggest war time criminals is the M&TIC, Military& Terror industrial complex. There in bed with government as much as the Federal Reserve is. They need wars and lots of them. Killing people and breaking things is their business. What’s there budget? Seven hundred and fifty billion dollars, $750,000,000,000+ annually. People gravitate from the military to politics getting raises as they go. How many of them have stock in the businesses? Bush Sr. was a member of the board of “The Carlisle Group”, the world’s largest trader in arms.

      This is good planning. Run for congress and at the same time buy stock in the M&TIC. Vote for a war so you can get rich.

      • Ron

        Actually, technically, it was probably Truman that dragged us into Vietnam. Roosevelt had indicated that he wanted Vietnam to be independent after WW II–and Ho Chi Minh and his friends had collaborated with Americans against the Japanese and would’ve welcomed a partnership with America. The war never needed to have been fought.

        Unfortunately, Truman had to coddle DeGaulle to let the French keep Indochina–since DeGaulle threatened to turn France into a commie supporter in Europe if they didn’t keep their colony. So Truman probably had the best shot at getting America out early on.

        Although Eisenhower could’ve done it after the French defeat at Dien Bin Phu, also–but he had to look tough on communism so he couldn’t get us out.

        Kennedy talked like he might have gotten us out, we’ll never know for sure.

        LBJ was already being hammered by Republicans for being ‘soft on communism’ so as he famously said, if he did pull out of Vietnam, he’d have had ‘Republicans shoving Vietnam up his a$$ every time he turned around’. So the radical right was definitely dictating the policy of the left, even as they are now in the Islamic world. All you have to do is look on here about the constant drumbeat of Obama’s “Muslam” roots, and it’s clear that Obama may have been elected by the American people, but Glenn Beck and Lord Limbaugh are pulling the strings.

        While there’s a lot of fear of weird liberal commie homo takeovers of America, history’s pretty clear; America’s getting bent further and further to the right with each election.

        The fact that Karl Rove could foist two draft-dodgers on America and have them create the longest and costliest war in American history–and still not apologize for that–speaks volumes for how far we’ve drifted away from genuine conservativism.

        At present, Dwight Eisenhower, Teddy Roosevelt, or Abraham Lincoln would NEVER be accepted as Republicans–they were all way too “liberal” for this hijacked RINO organization today.

        Heck, before he died, even Barry Goldwater expressed fear for the Karlrovian Glennbeckian radical monstrosity that the Party of Lincoln was turning into.

        Suggested reading: “American Theocracy”–by Kevin Phillips, Nixon’s Republican campaign strategist, and “Conservatives Without Conscience”, by Republicans John Dean and Barry Goldwater.

        And don’t let Rick Santorum tell you guys it’s shameful for you to read books–there’s nothing wrong with getting an education!

        It’s just that Fox News finds you easier to herd if you don’t.

      • Vigilant

        “America’s getting bent further and further to the right with each election.”

        That’s the most egregiously incorrect statement made today on this forum. You are hereby awarded the Josef Goebbels “Big Lie” Prize.

  • http://wildeyguns.com Wildey

    Although the Constitution doesn’t specifically say it, war in America was an act of self defense. Anything else would be of the highest order of a crime. That was until 1898 when war became an offense in the Spanish American war. William Randolph Hurst, the newspaper magnate, sent the painter, Frederick Remington, to Cuba to “paint the battles”. When Remington got there he cabled back to Hurst “there are no battles”. Hurst sent the infamous cable back to Remington, “You paint the battles. I’ll supply the war”. Hurst exposed the mentality that is now ingrained in the District of Criminals.

    So when we talk about war, we must recognize war in America is a necessary step in America’s road to Empire. We’re not Nazis but to the world we’re acting them. All our wars since 1898 have been offensive as far as the American people are concerned. The sad truth is they don’t realize it but results of our actions are starting to expose themselves. Rome went under when they could no longer afford to keep their vassal states. America’s going under for the same reason. Einstein… ” The defintion of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result”. The only thing new is the history you haven’t read yet.

    • Ron

      This is very interesting. It’s a real paradigm shift to see U.S. history in the larger context that you present here. A really good book along this line is “Lies My Teacher Told Me”, by James Loewen (sp?), wherein he documents how the American history we’re presented is deliberately designed so that we don’t grow up understanding exactly what you’ve described here.

      I would suggest that the problem may go all the way back to the Proclamation Line of 1763–when George III tried to manage growth on the North American continent in a sustainable way for the colonies. He saw North America as something that needed to be developed thoughtfully and for the long-term, rather than raped and pillaged by the highest bidder as rapidly as possible.

      America, however, may have been destined/doomed to be the Greatest Capitalist Corporatocracy on the face of the earth almost from it’s birth.

      We went to war with King George over land development potential in the Ohio Valley (prior to being supreme military commander, Washington was a surveyor working for a land speculator, after all), using the “taxation without representation” stuff as a ploy that stupid people and the unwealthy would be willing to die for. Following the Revolution, we began an explosive growth and reckless exploitation across the continent that wasted
      resources that could’ve been sustainable for generations hence.

      Like that old Bugs Bunny cartoon, we practically lathed down entire trees to turn each one into a pencil that we could sell for a nickel each. Screw the forests, if we make a nickel a billion times over, we can distill vast portions of the earth into a handful of billionaires and millionaires, and that’s some powerful meth, indeed.
      It’s a hard drug to put down.

      If the earth is the personal ATM for the super-rich, and we’re raping through it as fast as we can (not very conservative, by the way), we must quickly find new places to exploit, so before we’ve even finished plundering the continent and concentration-camping the natives, in the 1850s, we send Commodore Perry to Japan to kick in the door to Asia and make ‘em buy our junk and sell us stuff cheap, start a war with Spain in the 1890s so we can absorb the Philippines and Cuba, etc., and start plundering the Middle East as soon as we find there’s oil there, in the early 20th Century.

      Heck, fast-forward to the 1980s, when Iran and Iraq went to war with each other, what’d we do? Send a smiling Donnie Rumsfeld over there to hand out WMD’s to our buddy Saddam Hussein. It was good for business, kept dune monkeys killing each other, paying for it by selling us oil on the cheap, and kept us in overblown gas-guzzlers for another decade or two–and God hate anyone who would dare to suggest pansy notions like fuel economy or efficiency!

      Armies, then, are not for the defense of America–as conceived of by the founding fathers, but rather a powerful weapon for our Corporatocracy to keep on looting.

      It’s documented that one plan of the Confederacy following a successful conclusion of the Civil War was to go to war with Mexico and keep working South, developing slavery all the way to South America. For the Confederacy, trafficking in human beings was less of a sin than standing in the way of Big Bidness, and they had every intention of using their sharecropper army to blow a hole in the rest of the world.

      All of our military troubles since then have been based in one way or another on a “defense” provoked by out-of-control expansion of Corporatocracy without any regard for where this will eventually lead us.

      Where does it lead us?

      Well, let’s see. America is about 5% of the earth’s population. We presently consume about 20% of it’s resources.

      And it is absolutely in the interests of America’s Corporations (if these multi-national “persons” could even be called “American”) that the rest of the world adopts the “American Way of Life”. In the same way we went into Japan to force open their markets to American goods and trade, we must make sure that China and India live exactly the way we do: Fast food, disposible everything, gas-guzzlers to haul our a$$es a block down the street to the drugstore to buy diet pills ’cause we don’t get enough exercise, petrochemical-based fertilizers, genetically modified crops that make every food product on the planet patentable and solely owned by Corporations, even if those foods are killing us.

      So let’s do the math: America comprises a relatively small part of earth’s population. If we’re sucking down a quarter of the entire planet’s resources, AND our Corporations need for the rest of the world to adopt our way of life so they can make quick cash, it’s been estimated (conservatively) that within 30 years, we’ll need another PLANET-AND-A-HALF to supply the goodies we desperately need to chuck into the landfill.

      I don’t think even the vaporware miracle of another head-up-our-hineys Facebook can bridge that gap, and between FB and credit-default-swaps, those are the only miracles the “job creators” have been able to come up with for the last decade or so.

      Two things:

      1. Newt Gingrich needs to start building moon bases IMMEDIATELY. I dunno how he was planning on paying for that, and I dunno what they’re gonna eat up there or how they’re going to survive, but he needs to start offshoring the wealthy as quick as they can, if they’re going to survive. I have to assume they’ll be able to afford it, even if they’re the only ones who can.

      2. We better hope the Corporatocracy’s war machine starts killing a LOT of people, especially Americans, because we’re just eating too much at the trough. There isn’t enough to go around now, and there really won’t be if we keep kicking the last of earth’s resources disproportionately up to the 1%. Maybe the only hope for the planet will be to kill off a huge part of it’s population. In that, the NRA may have it right: Get a gun, go to war with your neighbors. It’s cheaper and simpler than cooperating and working together, and it smells like liberty–even if it’s the last thing you smell.

      It looks pretty grim, I think. And who wins election in 2012 is pretty meaningless. The problem is WAY bigger than any of us can even comprehend. I don’t deny that the New I-Pad is pretty cool and I’m kickin’ butt on World of Warcraft, but our entire way of life doesn’t work. If the lesson of the 20th Century was to demonstrate the failure of socialism, then maybe the lesson of the 21st will be the failure of rampant, hand-over-fist capitalism.

      On the other hand, maybe it’s better that Fox News keeps us spinning in circles with FEMA-concentration camp conspiracies, Obama birth certificate nonsense, etc.

      ‘Better that we keep our heads down and in the sand, hating one another, and we won’t know what hit us.

      Is it better to die in blissful ignorance or watch the catastrophe come upon us with eyes wide open?

      • Vigilant

        “We went to war with King George over land development potential in the Ohio Valley.”

        Care to provide a reference for that extremely tenuous connection?……I didn’t think you could. In point of fact, we went to war with France (as loyal British colonists) to assure that the Ohio River Valley and other areas west of the colonies would remain securely within the grasp of the Empire. Tensions arose between the Brits and the colonists only after Parliament began to levy taxes on us to repay the debt incurred during the French & Indian War.

        Both you and Wildey either live in a communist fantasy world, or are simply regurgitating your paid shill talking points in hopes that some ignoramuses can be converted to your distorted Karl Marx and Howard Zinn view of the world.

  • S.J. Jolly

    It puzzles me why so many right-wing conservative Republicans are quite happy with President Obama using drone strikes to kill even American citizens, sans trials. They are so willing to go along with anything “against enemies of the USA” that they don’t care that someone they consider just shy of being an anti-Christ might attack them? That a terrorist or “supporter of terrorism” might be thought to be in the GOP National Convention latter this year, for example?

    • http://wildeyguns.com Wildey

      These republicans you are talking about probably all hold stock in the M&TIC, Military & Terror industrial Complex. In addition, there are more Zionist and “Christian Zionist”, what ever they are, in the republican party than there are democrats in those groups.

    • upaces88

      S.J., allow me to ask you a question. Drones are, for the most part, very accurate as to a specific target area. You know your neighbors, right? I know I do know mine. IF YOU knew Terrorists lived next door to you? What would you do? Move? Turn them in? IF they knew and DID NOT MOVE away from them, they deliberately placed themselves in jeopardy to be killed. THEY ARE ALLOWING TERRORISTS TO LIVE THERE.

      Those drones are very accurate.

      • Vicki

        IF those drones are so accurate and the kill zone so small why does the administration need to redefine combatant?

  • e1313ruth

    Pakistan is very disturbed about the drones and the attack which killed Bin Laden..Is Obama trying to alienate Pakistan from America to the point of them using their nukes against us????…..He also is allowing Iran to continue with their nuke program but is supporting other Muslim countries into overthrowing heir governments????
    He is a very dangerous man….

    • Gea

      Pakistan is a sharia run country where they murder for “blasphemy”, allow poligamy and help Taliban, while US gives them money for food and weapons which had enriched the rich while they keep the poor locked under sharia and from revolting. With friends like this US does not need enemies. The hatred of US is maintaining the anger of the Muslim masses focused on Jews and Americans rather then reforming Islam and working on improving the conditions in their own country.

      Obam speaks and acts from both sides of his mouth. Oour Caliph in Chief who admires Islam and Koran while dissing the Bible is killing his potential competition ;-)!

      • Ron

        ‘Sounds to me like the dude couldn’t make you guys happy no matter what he did.

        I bet if it was Dubya doin’ this stuff it would be okay, though– If Obama was Dubya and doin’ the exact same stuff, you’d be crowing and waving flags!

        And if you guys were worried that “muslam” (muslim) countries will attack us for justified reasons, you shoulda thought of that back when the CIA overthrew the democratically-elected President of Iran in 1953. We began this shennanigans decades ago, and we’re just reaping the consequences.

        And when Cheney had us waterboarding and torturing middle easterners in droves, y’all kinda smirked with pride at that one.

        The drones are clumsy and stupid and are definitely making enemies for us–but would you rather we’d kickstart another ground war to get the “terrorists” that y’all hate so much?

        We’re gonna be paying for the last one for generations, but at least it did what it was designed to do.

        It got Cheney re-elected in 2004.

      • BigBadJohn

        Ron – Boy you sure are more cynical than I am.

        That war did more than just Cheney reelected in 2004, it allowed the republicans to open the US Treasury to their corporate backers. They turned a 150 billion dollar deficit into a 1.5 trillion dollar deficit with most of that money going directly into the back pockets of rich Bankers and CEO’s.
        A small but to the point example was Bush flying 10 billion in cash to favorite his (Cheney’s) MIC contractor, who made it vanish overnight.

      • Ron

        I’m assuming you’re just sidestepping the fact that administrations of both parties have for decades played footsie with America-hating Pakistan and you only happened to notice it when Obama was president? It was “Dutch” Reagan (Republican) and Charlie Wilson (Democrat) who basically created Bin Laden by using Pakistan’s security agency back in the ’80s.

        Both of those SuperPatriot RealAmericans bankrolled these little fanatics in the middle east and handed out all the bombs and bullets they could carry–because they were attacking the Russkies in Afghanistan. We were shocked when, after they kicked out the foreign infidel invader, they immediately began work on kicking out the OTHER foreign infidel invader–us. But they made it clear from the beginning they hated ALL foreign infidel invaders. It shouldn’t have been a surprise.

        But by all means, don’t let history cloud your thinking or get in the way of your fearhate. You’re probably right. It Is All Obama’s Fault All The Time Forever. Always Has Been. Always Will Be.

      • eddie47d

        The right runs when Halliburton is mentioned yet they still can’t explain the 900 million dollar loss from the Kabul Bank which Halliburton set up. It’s always different when their players are involved.

    • http://wildeyguns.com Wildey

      When your out to build an Empire and look at countries like Pakistan and Afganistan as vassal states, People have good reason to mistrust and hate you.

    • upaces88

      We are the laughing stock of the Middle East! Everyone there KNOWS Osama Bin Laden has been dead for 11 years!!!!

      • Ron

        If he was dead for 11 years, why did Dubya smirk before the cameras and say it didn’t matter whether we caught him or not?

        There’s a lot of stuff that gets pulled outta people’s hineys on this site (mostly ObamaCommuNaziNiggaKenyanHomoSocialist Voodoo stuff), but this one is totally news!

        I’m surprised Lord Limbaugh and Lady Ann weren’t exposing this as soon as those Seal Team Six traitors claimed that they killed Bin Laden! God, why do our troops hate America so?

  • http://peresonallibertydigest.. gottaplenty

    That switch the criminal position is one of the libnuts tactics forever. now s j jolly imposes all the idiocy taking place from D C and that top idiot obummer as republican ,concervative created and the dummer is doing it to appease them That is how they maintain a following .it isn’t from clear thinking.

  • cbond01

    Obama can take out anyone He believes to be a threat to His Presidency while He is in office. If Home land security has done such a good job of keeping the bad guys out of America, why are they flying drones over the America’s people’s living quarters ?

    • http://wildeyguns.com Wildey

      Maybe Homeland security is doing a good job at the work the were actually created for. They’re terrorizing the Ameican people and beating them into submission at every turn aren’t they?

  • http://peresonallibertydigest.. gottaplenty

    Do you not remember obummer going around the world appoligizing for our past wars , bowing down to kings etc. to show his remorse for our behavior . Now what do you call this cowardly , sneaky way of keeping our country in the world spotlight as the terrible people he portreyed us as so when he can have the muslam countries attack us they are justified.

    • Doc Sarvis

      President Obama did not appologize for our country. He has been honest about our country’s actions for the most part.

      • Ron

        Hey, don’t quote American history to us here on this site. Fox News strictly forbids that.

      • http://gravatar.com/upaces88 upaces88

        His apologies (yes, plural) to Muslims for something the Military DID NOT DO and were found innocent of…got them killed….as a matter of fact, due to HIS APOLOGIZING, 3 of our own Military were murdered by Muslims they trusted in a Secure Location.

  • Average Joe

    Let’s face it, this has been in the works for generations. We’ve known that the technology has existed since the early 1960′s as evidenced by “Operation Northwoods”. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Northwoods

    We also know about the controversial “Project for a New American Century” (PNAC) report that was released in Sept. of 2000. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_for_the_New_American_Century
    http://www.newamericancentury.org/RebuildingAmericasDefenses.pdf

    Which basically stated that in order to acheive their goals, they would “need a new Pearl Harbor”. Amazingly they got one…almost a year to the day… from the release of their report….911.
    “The PNAC program, in a nutshell: America’s military must rule out even the possibility of a serious global or regional challenger anywhere in the world. The regime of Saddam Hussein must be toppled immediately, by U.S. force if necessary. And the entire Middle East must be reordered according to an American plan. PNAC’s most important study notes that selling this plan to the American people will likely take a long time, “absent some catastrophic catalyzing event – like a new Pearl Harbor.” (PNAC, Rebuilding America’s Defenses (1997), p.51)”

    Immediately after our “Invasion” of Afghanistan, all of the “Sign up for the military advertisements started featuring our”New Drone Technologies” ( New?) “Join the Navy,Army,Air Force, Marines… “Play video games and blow people up” ( I always felt that the ads were like…. rubbing it in our faces).
    Hmmm, Let’s see…Remote control planes…since the 60′s…false flag attacks contemplated against American citizens at the same time…using those planes.
    Planes fly into three buildings and a field on a single day…while everyone in government…looked the other way. One of the Highjacker’s (?)passport is miraculously recoverd from the debris of the Twin Towers…unharmed…picture perfect. Even though most of the highjackers (?) were from Saudi Arabia….we attack…Afghanistan and Iraq (just like the PNAC asked for in their report)..and then within 6 months…start letting us in on the “NEW TECHNOLOGY” .
    They used this attack, to push through the “un-Patriot Act” within days of the event .
    342 pages, written in days (?)…and read by no person in congress before voting…effectively stripping American Citizens of Constitutionally Protected Rights….
    Now they have added the Militarization of our police, passed the NDAAand essentially declared war on the American people……..

    As a prelude to the next “war”, I am predicting that the USS Enterprise (due to be mothballed next year at considerable expense), which has recently been dispatched to the Persian Gulf…will be fired upon by someone unknown ( think USS Liberty)http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Liberty_incident entity….
    And then blamed on Iran. Two things are accomplished….first we now have a reason (?) to attack Iran and second we get to dispose of an aging nuclear carrier….at the bottom of the Persian Gulf…and someone else gets to deal with the nuclear hazard….

    How anyone could not have seen this coming….is beyond me.

    • Average Joe

      I forgot to mention that LBJ committed us to war in Viet Nam based on the “second Gulf of Tonkin incident” (which never happened)
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulf_of_Tonkin_incident

      Although it never happened..it iwas still used as a justification to enter the war…..

      Dwight did try to warn us…we simply haven’t listened to his words of wisdom…. “Beware of the Military industrial complex”.

      • Ron

        YES. That’s the bottom line. Ike was the last honest Republican.

        But then Ike didn’t even want to endorse Nixon in 1960, ’cause he was afraid he’d turn the Party into exactly what it’s become–a greedy power-hungry shill for the military-industrial-complex.

        Most of the current RINO party was born in the Nixon White House–Cheney, Rumsfeld, Roger Ailes.

        If Ike tried to be a Republican today, they’d swiftboat him for serving in the military and call him a traitor like they did McCain. He’d never make it past the primaries–but then, neither would Lincoln. How’s that for irony?

      • upaces88

        LBJ, the sorry SOB, made a fortune off of the Viet Nam War. He had this long-assed fence built in Viet N…that went no where!..didn’t keep anyone out or in.
        In Texas, he did NOT get elected and everyone knew it. There was a “recall” scheduled the next day. Strange how the court house burned down in the middle of the night.

      • Average Joe

        http://www.brasschecktv.com/videos/offensive-technology-1/drone-technology-spying-game-consoles-and-homeland-humiliation.html

        When your kids or grand kids want a new game console….you may want to give it some serious thought before puchasing. When you decide on the brand new …..must have…. new phone, tablet etc….you may want to rethink your choices…..

        Consider yourselves to be on “mobile house arrest”….we are under surveillance 24/7 and don’t even suspect……time to wake up folks….reality is calling…..

    • Ron

      Wow. I’ve never been a conspiracy theorist per se, but after reading your references to Northwoods and PNAC, this is some pretty amazing–and spooky stuff. I figured we’ve been ruled by the military-industrial-complex for years–otherwise Ike wouldn’t have given the first presidential farewell address since George Washington to talk about it. I just had no idea it was this intricate.

  • upaces88

    Doc, did you get your information from Obama’s website?
    But Obama has worked for plenty of private companies, from Baskin-Robbins to Business International Corporation. He worked at law firms. He was a telemarketer. He worked construction. He sold island trinkets in Hawaii.
    http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2009/apr/15/joe-scarborough/heres-scoop-obama-has-worked-ice-cream-business-am/

  • Tweety9

    Maybe when the drones are used here and are killing innocent Americans maybe stupid Americans will wake up when the drones are chasing them down with bullets.

  • Ron

    The half of you on here that hate Obama for being soft on Islam should talk to the half of you on here that hate Obama for killing Islamic terrorists.

    Or maybe the point is you just want to do your goose-steppy duty and “hand him his Waterloo” no matter what he does? :)

  • Jonathon Galt

    Reminds me of simething I was told in VN back in the late 60′s, “We don’t hate Americans, we hate your government.”

    • upaces88

      Whoa! Big light went on!!!

      This is a VERY short video from Israel. They Love us…they just DO NOT Like Obama:

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pFfjYdZDvWc&feature=sub

      • Gea

        Obama muist be retired in November since he is a clear danger to American democracy, free speech and US Constitution. He bows to Saudi King whose subjects committed the crimes of 9/11, he extolls Islam and Koran, while dissing the Bible.

        Barak Hussein Obams also belonged for 20 years to the racist anti-American church of Jeremiah Wight. It is amazing that this man is such a good speaker and writer that he can taqiyya ANTHYING and still seduce US people to vote for him. He is endangering not only US soldierfs and US but also the entier Western civilization

        Let’s retire him in November and let him go to Chicago to write Dreams of nis Mother, who twice fell from Muslim Marxist men, one from Kenya and one from Indonesia. It would be interesting to know WHY and how Islam informs decision of our Caliph-in-Chief?

      • Ron

        I liked it when Dubya and President Cheney would bow to the Saudi king and hold his hand when they walked along with him, ’cause they were oil men and well, caucasian and not niggafied, so it was so much more patriotic and dignified when they did it.

        It was, like, more RealAmerican somehow.

        Plus after 9/11 they patriotically let the Bin Laden family (Saudis) get outta the country before they began dilligently pinning the whole thing on Saddam Hussein. $4 trillion and thousands of American dead soldiers later, they got a war for the record books–but they thoughtfully sent us the bill! And they even had the patriotism to say that it didn’t really matter if we got Bin Laden or not–but not until after we were lots of money and many dead Americans down the road, though. That information was on a “need to know” basis, and we didn’t need to know…and if they wanted our opinion, they’d waterboard it out of us.

        Obama just gets up every day and hates America a little more. It must just be the evil power of niggakenayanism that inspires him to wickedness. He’s so satanic, he was even able to betray America before he was born, I’m pretty sure.

        Dubya and President Cheney–our first draft-dodger-war-monger Presidents, though?

        They love America to death.

  • BigBadJohn

    “The National Defense Authorization Act that Obama signed into law earlier this year effectively removes Americans’ expectation to fair trial and provides the Federal government the right to detain U.S. citizens on U.S. soil if they are expected of being, or working with, terrorists. Meanwhile, the Department of Homeland Security has spent the past several years making it possible to label almost any activity as suspect terrorism, and the FBI has spent its time creating domestic terrorists out of thin air.”

    THE TRUTH:

    Obama to blame for the NDAA…oh really?
    Posted on May 20, 2012

    Over the past couple months there has been a lot of criticism of Obama over the National Defense Authorization Act, and more precisely the section allowing the indefinite detention of americans. There have been a couple of states passing, or trying to, bills to void it. And more recently a federal judge (an Obama appointee by the way) blocking parts of it.

    But of course, the dirty little secret, Obama opposed it. Prior to the debate in Congress Obama had said the provision was a dangerous assault on american freedom, and that the US already had the power to hold foreign combatants who were an actual threat to america.

    But of course the NDAA passed both houses of congress with a veto proof majority, which is why Obama signed it- but used a signing statement saying, in part: “I have signed the Act chiefly because it authorizes funding for the defense of the United States and its interests abroad, crucial services for service members and their families, and vital national security programs that must be renewed. ….The fact that I support this bill as a whole does not mean I agree with everything in it. In particular, I have signed this bill despite having serious reservations with certain provisions that regulate the detention, interrogation, and prosecution of suspected terrorists.”

    The vote on the bill in the Senate- S1867, passed 93 to 7- with 3 democrats, 3 republicans, and one independent opposed. Details on the vote here

    In the House, the vote was 322 to 96. With 90 democrats opposed and 6 republicans opposed.

    And more recently, within the past week, the smith-amash amendment to strip the indefinite detention of americans provision from the law was roundly rejected by the house – 238-132 – with the vote breaking down largely on party lines- the republicans overwhelmingly voting nea.

    So while both parties certainly deserve a gread deal of blame here, the facts, and the votes tell a far different story from what the right is saying. Overwhelmingly it was the GOP who supported this assault on our constitutional rights, with a not ubsustantial number, of mostly democratic and libertarian congressman being opposed- along with president Obama.

    IF THE NDAA REALLY BOTHERS YOU – IT SHOULD – MAKE THE PEOPLE RESPONSIBLE PAY!!!!!
    REPUBLICANS IN CONGRESS!!!

  • Shirley

    Barrack and Michelle BOTH SURRENDERED THEIR LAW LICENSE!!! If they had not, they would have been taken away from them. Barrack’s was falsification on the application of his past residence among other things. Imagine that not telling the truth on application. It probably wasn’t the first or the last time he has lied about where he lived.

    Michelle’s was surrendered by her, not for sure why. Had something to do with what she did improperly where she was employed.

    They make a good couple.

    • Ron

      A lie.

      http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/lawlicenses.asp

      But please, don’t let that get in the way of your visceral hatred against this filthy, N*****, racist, America-hating, gorilla-ape couple. NEVER let the truth get in the way of your hatred. We will need your hatred to feed and grow if we are to overthrow the United States of America and replace it with the Confederate States of America.

    • Ron

      Oh! And don’t let Rick Santorum bully you into believing it’s not okay for you to have an education. There’s no shame in knowing stuff.

      And it’s okay for you to read stuff other than that officially sanctioned by the Confederacy.

      They try to tell you that Jesus loves an obedient sharecropper who is free of uppityness and leaves education to their social betters, but that’s just ’cause they want to control you and make you think Fox News is a “news” organization.

      There’s nothing in the Bible that says you can’t use your God-given brain for something more than holding up one of those fakey-patriot hats like Glenn Beck wears.

    • http://gravatar.com/upaces88 upaces88

      Lawyers surrender their license when they are about to be brought up on “ethics” charges or worse”….Lawyers, for some reason, are allowed to break the law; and all they lose is their license.
      We all know the reputations of some lawyers…for her to GIVE UP practicing law and surrendering her license…it had to be bad.

  • upaces88

    As far as Pakistan is concerned? No drones? Maybe it would be better just to cluster bomb the hell out of Pakistan totally off the map if they or YOU don’t like the drones used in Pakistan.. They ask for help…they get it…then they cry about it. SO? What is the solution? Let them do their own fighting? Don’t think so.

    Pakistan IS KNOWN to HIDE the terrorist.. They ARE KNOWN B Y THE COMMUNITY AT LARGE…then whine because they are there and whine again if the drones take them out. Take the complication out of the situation. They DO have a choice. BE PART OF THE SOLUTION or wait until someone tries to resolve the problem for them….as they hide the terrorist — then cry if an innocent gets killed. IT REALLY IS IN THEIR HANDS.

    “Palestinians do the same things to Israel. They hide within a community so when attacked the Israeli’s look bad in the eyes of the bleeding hearts and uninformed doo doo heads!” Redneck woman. Muslims use women and female children as a shield How gallant is that!!!!??

  • jopa

    Nostradamus must have been on the Nobel Peace Prize committee.Obama has done more for peace and mankind than anyone in the last 50 years.We now have Democratic elections in Egypt, the war in Iraq is over, Usama Bin Laden is dead along with 22 of the top leaders in his organization, the Somali pirates are no longer an issue, Libya is becoming a Democratic nation and the list goes on of his accomplishments.Just because he isn’t bragging about it every day people tend to forget.Targeted bombing with drones is much more humane than the carpet bombing, bunker busting, and daisy cutter tactics of the Bush administration that resulted in the deaths of hundreds of thousands of men women and children.Bush even went so far as to single out and kill Saddam Husseins children.Then there is the war crime issue of Bush, Chaney , Rumsfeld and Wolfowitz.When they get locked up for war crimes the world will be a better place.

    • Allen Crawford

      Mr Jopa,

      Please include every congressman and senator who approved these wars. Put all those in the war crime mix too…ooops! That would include your master…Obama!! You see, you can’t have your cake without the icing and everyone has their hand in the war crimes thing..including all your progressive allies!

      • upaces88

        Obama has stepped over the procedure to go to war in Libya…he went in without going through proper procedures. He decided it all by “his lonesome” and didn’t need to run it through proper channels to make it official.

    • http://gravatar.com/upaces88 upaces88

      Bin Laden died 11 yrs ago. He died of a Kidney Disease. Bin Laden’s neighbors have been laughing at “The Americans who were duped by Obama.”
      http://politicalvelcraft.org/2012/05/03/obamas-big-ruse-osama-bin-laden-died-11-years-ago/

  • upaces88

    Vicky, that, my friend is an excellent question…..

  • old hillbilly

    Sounds more like a re-run of the other professor turned dictator, turned killer….
    POL POT??? Bo seems really turned on by the “off switch”

  • upaces88

    Deerinwater, at the time he received the Nobel Peace Prize, he hadn’t been in office long enough to EARN IT. It appeared more like he received the prize for being the First Black President who has brought more destruction to the U.S. than any other president in our history. The Bin Laden trip cost the lives of members of Seal Team Six to KILL A MAN WHO HAD ALREADY BEEN DEAD FOR 11 YRS.

  • upaces88

    Obama’s Big Ruse: Osama Bin Laden Died 11 Years Ago!
    Posted by Volubrjotr on May 3, 2012 in obama, subversion, treason, soetoro, video, politics, political, barack obama, yes we can, government
    [Fox News. December 26, 2001]

    By DAVID CRARY:

    NEW YORK (AP) – The killing of Osama bin Laden during a raid by Navy SEALs on his hideout in Pakistan was the top news story of 2011, followed by Japan‘s earthquake/tsunami/meltdown disaster, according to The Associated Press‘ annual poll of U.S. editors and news directors.

  • upaces88

    Obama’s Big Ruse: Osama Bin Laden Died 11 Years Ago!
    Posted by Volubrjotr on May 3, 2012 in obama, subversion, treason, soetoro, video,politics, political, barack obama, yes we can, government

    Usama bin Laden has died a peaceful death due to an untreated lung complication, the Pakistan Observer reported, citing a Taliban leader who allegedly attended the funeral of the Al Qaeda leader.

    [Fox News. December 26, 2001]

    By DAVID CRARY:

    NEW YORK (AP) – The killing of Osama bin Laden during a raid by Navy SEALs on his hideout in Pakistan was the top news story of 2011, followed by Japan‘s earthquake/tsunami/meltdown disaster, according toThe Associated Press‘ annual poll of U.S. editors and news directors.

    REBUTTAL

    New York Times Reported Bin Laden Dead In 2001

    By Amir Taheri
    Published: July 11, 2002
    Osama bin Laden is dead. The news first came from sources in Afghanistan and Pakistan almost six months ago: the fugitive died in December 2001 and was buried in the mountains of southeast Afghanistan. Pakistan’s president, Pervez Musharraf, echoed the information. The remnants of Osama’s gang, however, have mostly stayed silent, either to keep Osama’s ghost alive or because they have no means of communication.

    With an ego the size of Mount Everest, Osama bin Laden would not have, could not have, remained silent for so long if he were still alive. He always liked to take credit even for things he had nothing to do with. Would he remain silent for nine months and not trumpet his own survival?

    Even if he is still in the world, bin Ladenism has left for good.Mr. bin Laden was the public face of a brand of politics that committed suicide in New York and Washington on Sept. 11, 2001, killing thousands of innocent people in the process. –New York Times

    Israeli Secret Agency

    http://politicalvelcraft.org/2012/05/03/obamas-big-ruse-osama-bin-laden-died-11-years-ago/

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  • Don De

    What was the last war that Americans fought in that had Congressional Authorization? Does our Nobel Peace Prize winning President Obama realize there are severe consequences for killing people with drone strikes in undeclared, un-authorized wars! Nazi’s WERE CONVICTED OF WAR CRIMES at the Nurenberg War Crimes Trials after WW-2. Mr. Obama may have personally decided to execute certain Pakistani’s AND American citizens for his nefarious reasons but he surley does not have any legal authorization to do so. PERHAPS HE SHOULD START THINKING OF THE CONSEQUENCES OF HIS ILLEGAL ACTIONS!!!
    DonDe

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