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The Moral Equivalent Of Boor

August 4, 2011 by  

The Moral Equivalent Of Boor

If I wrote film scripts, I might simply transcribe this week’s events in Washington. Actually, if I wrote film scripts, I’d be drinking champagne on the French Riviera with Cameron Diaz (because she seems really nice). Mere days after I penned the column The Oslo Discord, comic serendipity served the Democrats with a come-to-Jesus moment.

While the appalling “conservatives = terrorists” rhetoric reached hysterical volumes, something important happened. I am decidedly not referring to the ridiculous budgetary “deal” struck by the suits in Washington, by the way. Granted, the “deal” is important, in the sense that political histrionics followed by a gross dereliction of duty are important. But the serendipitous event to which I refer took place Monday afternoon on the floor of the House of Representatives. Amid the cacophony of virtually every liberal in the country trying to smear his or her opponents with the fecal falsehood of terrorism charges, there was a smile: Representative Gabby Giffords walked back onto the House floor and cast her first vote since Jared Lee Loughner tried to kill her.

You’ll recall the Democrats blamed conservatives for that. When it turned out that Loughner had nothing to do with conservatism, not only did the Democrats and their media accomplices drop coverage of him, they dropped their coverage of Giffords, as well. After all, she was no longer useful as a prop for their freak show. They’re still trying to work with the Anders Breivik-conservative simile, but it’s fading quickly. It’s tough to sell semi-literate teachers’ union victims — and members — on anything involving a mass murderer whose name they can’t pronounce, from a country they’ve never heard of, across an ocean they can’t locate on a map of… the Atlantic Ocean.

Against this backdrop, I ventured into that digital Tower of Babel, Facebook, and posted a link to a story recounting Democratic mouthpiece Chris Matthews’ latest stream of venom. As I perused the attempt by Matthews to claim conservatives are the moral equivalent of terrorists, I realized he was concluding a discussion of Giffords’ return. Even the two sock puppets he’d invited on set to watch him spew invective seemed uncomfortable.

Giffords made a miraculous recovery and retook her place among her colleagues in a remarkably short span, and Matthews celebrated her return by resurrecting the rhetoric of conservatives = terrorists. It’s almost as if he didn’t read last Thursday’s column (horrors!).

Meanwhile, a liberal acquaintance of mine reacted to the link with a torrent of tripe as virulent as a Jeremiah Wright “sermon.” Within a few lines, I had been accused by proxy of being a “terrorist,” a “thug” and — this one never gets old — a “teabagger.” The discussion turned academic as quickly as any attempt to convince a hardened liberal to remove his or her cranium from his or her rectum ever does. But it gave me a chance to engage in the sort of reflection most liberals seem incapable of conducting.

And I have a question for them: What the hell is wrong with you people? Gabby Giffords is back on the House floor. Our spendthrift Congress just worked out a “deal” to essentially play hot potato with the Nation’s financial security. Absolutely none of the economic problems we collectively face has been addressed in any substantive way, and it appears neither hope nor change will be heading our way anytime soon. And the Democrats, from Vice President Joe Biden all the way down to my wayward associate, are still trying to draw a parallel between people who disagree with their politics and people who fly planes into buildings.

Democrats, have you no shame? Do you even wince before you lump a fellow citizen into the same category as Ayman al-Zawahiri for the great crime of political disagreement? Is that really an appropriate equivalency? President Jimmy Carter infamously referred to the 1970s energy “crisis” as “the moral equivalent of war.” His remarks were met with the same derision as virtually everything else the losing admiral from the Battle of the Chattahoochee Bunny said or did. We don’t need a moral equivalent of war; we have actual war. Likewise, we don’t need a moral equivalency of terrorism; we have actual terrorists. It disturbs me that the Democrats can’t tell the difference.

If anyone needs a moral equivalent, here’s one: The financial scheme crafted in Washington this week is the moral equivalent of combating drunk driving by raising the legal blood alcohol level. And the supporters of this bill are the moral equivalents of Ted Kennedy.

–Ben Crystal

Ben Crystal

is a 1993 graduate of Davidson College and has burned the better part of the last two decades getting over the damage done by modern-day higher education. He now lives in Savannah, Ga., where he has hosted an award-winning radio talk show and been featured as a political analyst for television. Currently a principal at Saltymoss Productions—a media company specializing in concept television and campaign production, speechwriting and media strategy—Ben has written numerous articles on the subjects of municipal authoritarianism, the economic fallacy of sin taxes and analyses of congressional abuses of power.

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  • s c

    You have a Menckenish slam dunk here, Ben. Moreover, you’re very polite, considering the treason and schizophrenia that is so typical of the ‘others.’
    I don’t suppose Crap Matthews learned his whores-on-wheels style while Uncle Ted took his infamous swim. It would fit. It’s the same ‘embrace subjectivity and hate objectivity’ that Dud Rather gave us on CBS. Rather got his just desserts. Matthews will get his, and Uncle Ted is finally out of the picture.
    Once again, only career criminals will benefit from this sham. Their motto seems to be ‘screw the people’ – at any cost. Perhaps we could get a better deal from the Mafia. Or (as a last resort), America has a long-term supply of experienced hookers.

    • http://naver sook young

      I agree with you s.c. and Ben. Instead of using the diagnosis of schizophrenia, I would raise the level to say sociopaths and antagonists. Such people have no care for their fellow man nor do they care about anyone else but themselves. I guess this government is becomming more and more like,”A government that robs Peter to pay Paul, can always depend on the support of Paul.” I have written to both of our senators (Lugar and Pence) and have received responses from Mike Pence. I have even written to Congressman Joe Donnely, but I haven’t heard anything from him yet. I just hope that this country I chose to become a citizen of doesn’t end up like Germany and Russia did in history. Thank you.

      Sook Young
      Wife of the Samurai

      • Robert Smith

        Only care about themselves! Sook, that’s a new low.

        Who cares about offering medical care to millions who don’t have it now?

        Who cares about getting kids fed breakfast at school?

        Who cares about getting kids educated?

        Who cares about making sure our elders get their fair share after contributing all their lives?

        The Republicans sure don’t as they use their efforts to cut all those things.

        Rob

        • Iam

          Rob, you lie! All you are doing is proving that liberals vomit their propaganda, without any proof to support their unreasoned claims. No matter what “purpose” liberal agendas proclaim, the only thing accomplished with social engineering by law is an enormous waste of money. Nothing has changed in all the decades of Democrat generated programs to “help” the poor. However, the hate speech they have thrown around has led to a loss of civil debate. Take for example the use of the term “tea bagger.” It is used as an invective to show that the target group is beneath contempt, without having to prove it. In the meantime, this country is on the brink of bankruptcy. Conservatives want to reverse that. They want to still have a country fifty years from now. In spite of what Democrats say, you can’t reduce debt by burying yourself in ever more debt. It just doesn’t work.

          • independant thinker

            80% of the poor have air conditioning, less than 50% of the population had AC in 1970

            Almost 75% of the “poor” have a moter vehicle with just under 1/3 having two or more.

            Most of the “poor” have color tv and most have cable or satellite.

            Over 75% of the “poor” have a VCR or DVD player.

            From an article by Thomas Sowell

          • JeffH

            Iam, what you just stated couldn’t have been said any better or more accurately…well said.

            That said, It may be early in the campaign season, but the Communist Party USA already has seen fit to endorse Barack Obama for the 2012 election.

            While noting he is disappointed with “some aspects” of the Obama administration’s domestic and foreign policy, Sam Webb, chairman of the Communist Party USA, threw his support behind Obama’s re-election bid.
            In an article last week at People’s Weekly World, the official newspaper of the Communist Party USA, Webb discussed the need for a third party consisting of the so-called working class and labor as well as “racially and nationally oppressed people, women, youth, immigrants, seniors, gay and straight.”

            Webb, however, recognized that such a party is not likely to emerge by next year.

            “Millions who have to be at the core of this party still operate under the umbrella of the Democratic Party, albeit increasingly in an independent fashion,” he noted.

            Webb said that for communists there are major differences between Democrats and Republicans. He urged his supported to continue to back the Democrats.

            Look who’s coming to dinner…look long and hard!

          • Kinetic1

            IT,
            How many of those air conditioners came with the apartments or houses the poor are renting? How old are those cars? How dependable are they? Assuming they have at least one job, if they didn’t have a car, would they be able to get to work?

            Thomas Sowell’s piece made a lot of claims in his “misleading words” column, and a quick review shows how ironic the title truly was. Without any consideration for reality he makes big news in reporting that “More than three-quarters have either a VCR or a DVD player, and nearly nine-tenths have a microwave oven.” Have you priced these products lately? If they do have a simple VCR it’s likely more than a decade old since most manufacturers don’t make them anymore. Those that do make VCRs bundle them with DVD players and sell them for less than $60.00 at Walmart. And how about that microwave? My rental came with one included, but if I did need to buy one a trip to the same Walmart would offer several choices in that same price range. A trip to the thrift store could cut the price by more than half.

            Sowell goes on to attack the poor by noting that the obesity rate is slightly higher among the poor, proof that they get more than enough to eat. What he fails to take into account is that the cheap processed foods that the poor typically buy to stretch their dollars/food stamps are full of empty calories. Their weight problems are more a symptom of poor nutrition than an example of how well they eat.

            I could go on and on picking apart the “misleading words” of Thomas Sowell, but why bother. Like him, most of you seem predisposed to accept the idea that there are vast numbers of Americans stealing from you to avoid working. You prove it by pointing to how many own homes, but ignore how poorly built those homes are. You point to their air conditioners but ignore the fact that many poor people die every year because they can’t afford to stay cool enough. If only the poor would live and suffer in abject poverty the way they’re supposed to.

          • Pat

            The Tea Party says Stop the outrageous spending and debt! Shut off the printing press! Stop the pork and wastage, live on a budget like the rest of America has to! and Honor the Constitution, it is the heart of America! The Democrats can’t understand this…and in their immaturity and frustration are calling us names like sandbox bullies..

          • http://naver sook young

            I agree with you Pat and thank you.

            Sook Young
            Wife of the Samurai

        • Dagney

          If your idea of “compassion” is stealing from others under threat of jail time, you have a screw loose. Nuff said.

        • Jerry M

          OK Bob. Now go out to your mailbox and wait for your government check and leave important things to those who have enough knowledge and experience to know how to deal with Socialist spending. Bob, Just so you know the difference, after the money is gone through Socialism the next stop is Communism where no citizen owns anything because everything is the property of the state. Democrats have done as much as they can to destroy our country and drive us in that direction. You can’t continue spending what you don’t have. I have an idea you Democrats will love. Lets raise taxes but this time lets do it so the 47% of Democrats who pay zero will have to pay also. Let’s call it “Share the Pain”

        • Dan az

          RS
          Why is it that your trolling for Sook is it that you think she is an easy mark or it that she provides the truth and it hurts?Your wasting your time here and space that could be used for better purpose’s.Be Gone troll!

          • JeffH

            :)

          • Kinetic1

            Dan az,
            Nice job positioning your question. Are you suggesting that sook is less able to defend her remarks because she is a women or because English is not her native language? Do you still beat your wife?

          • JeffH

            Kinetic1, please explain how you could come up with that slant from Dan az’s comment? Do you have some predisposed notion that wife beaters only question trolls, or that wife beaters step up in defense of women?

          • Dan az

            Brother Jeff
            This is the best of the best for dennso it must of meant something to him!Far be it logic but hey its denny so!

          • Kinetic1

            Jeff and Dan,
            “Do you still beat your wife” is a classic trap. As explained at http://www.fallacyfiles.org/loadques.html
            “A “loaded question”, like a loaded gun, is a dangerous thing. A loaded question is a question with a false or questionable presupposition, and it is “loaded” with that presumption. The question “Have you stopped beating your wife?” presupposes that you have beaten your wife prior to its asking, as well as that you have a wife. If you are unmarried, or have never beaten your wife, then the question is loaded.

            Since this example is a yes/no question, there are only the following two direct answers:

            “Yes, I have stopped beating my wife”, which entails “I was beating my wife.”
            “No, I haven’t stopped beating my wife”, which entails “I am still beating my wife.”

            I added this to highlight the nature of your question and the message in my reply. How unfortunate that I should have to explain this to the two of you. In the future I will keep this in mind so as not to assume too much of you.

          • JeffH

            Kinetic, what is not sad is that I could really care less!

          • http://naver sook young

            Thank you Dan az and Jeff H. Robert always comes to certain threads and always shows just how childish he can be. He also posts many lies. I only answer him to set him straight, not because of intellectual debate. Kinetic1, why do you say these things about me? Yes, I am a woman and my native language is Korean, but what does this have to do with anything? I’ll bet my English is just as good as yours. Robert always comes after me because I’m a conservative, a Christian, and a patriotic woman, not the huddled masses of ignorant and uneducated liberals that he seems to befriend. This makes their intelligence drop in IQ levels due to them associating with him. He’s no more than an assassin that comes to this site, seeing who he can character assassinate. He has a childish mentality and if you support him and what he is saying, then you are no better than him. Thank you.

            Sook Young
            Wife of the Samurai

            P.S. Robert, all of these programs you posted are not authorized undre our great country’s Constitution.

        • curtis

          Rob,
          You need to get the facts straight. I guess the Feds are supporting you and you need more.Bush spnt more on EDUCATION than the present admin. Health care was available through medicare to more than 17 million who chose not to apply. Twelve million were young and chose no coverage thinking they were super human. I suppose you want the country like California is. We treat anyone of a minority for nothing. Look at the debt idiot. I suppose you just get another CC and stop[ paying the one thats maxed out. A trillin dollars was to guarantee rates would not go up. Guess what Rob , mine has gone up twice and I still get to pay YOUR medical bills. Ideas are great ideology is stupidity. Is this the change you wanted when you voted for Obama. Move to Greece and get a taste of what you desire !

          • eddie47d

            That’s odd Curtis it was credit card companies that raised their rates which they have been doing for many a years. So many of you have a bad habit of blaming the government for something that private industry is doing to you. Big Pharma gouged the heck out of us for quite a few years also so lay those troubles on private enterprise who took advantage of you(us).

          • Bob from Calif.

            Hey eddie,
            Your friends in Washington are being led by the nose by big pharma and the large banks. They are signing into law bills that are written by these people, just like large portions of Obama care were written by the insurance companies.

          • Kinetic1

            curtis,
            If your claims are based on “no child left behind” I suggest that you reconsider Bush’s goal.

            “The wedding of big business and education benefits not only the interests of the Business Roundtable, a consortium of over 300 CEOs, but countless Bush family loyalists. Sandy Kress, chief architect of NCLB; Harold McGraw III, textbook publisher; Bill Bennett, former Reagan education secretary; and Neil Bush, the president’s youngest brother, have all cashed in on the Roundtable’s successful national implementation of “outcome-based education.” NCLB’s mandated system of state standards, state tests, and school sanctions has together transformed our public school system into a for-profit frenzy.” “While the Business Roundtable maintains that the high-stakes tests administered nationwide hold schools accountable to “Adequate Yearly Progress,” NCLB has instead benefited the testing industry in the amount of between $1.9 and $5.3 billion a year.”
            (http://www.projectcensored.org/top-stories/articles/12-bush-profiteers-collect-billions-from-no-child-left-behind/)

            Bush didn’t spend more on education, he just used education as a cover to funnel billions to family and friends.

        • Song

          Robert: You are such an incredibly empty headed, toilsome, intemperate individual…do you do anything other than parrot the talking points of the left which have been proven en mass to be completely without merit?

          • http://?? Joe H.

            Song,
            Very well intoned!!! Very accurate, as well!

          • eddie47d

            Song; Why do you always parrot the talking heads on the right? or is that different?

          • Dan az

            So eddie
            I see when the left attacks the right its OK with you but when they reply with common sense you seem to have a problem with that!
            BTW sorry to here about your granddaughter hope they cut it off to avoid any further problems with this guy.

        • crystal

          You really have swallowed a load of crap. Do you even bother to read any of the bills? They put them online now. Show me what page states everybody will be covered under the new “Healthcare” legislation.

          • Jana

            In fact, there have been so many exemptions from this fiasco of a health care bill that anyone using that bill will be paying double for it, or they along with millions of illegals will get it free and the rest of us will pay double for health care and then again in our taxes, that will be increased within a few years.
            We need to make everyone exempt from this health care fiasco.

          • Bob from Calif.

            The dam Obama care bill hasn’t even taken affect yet and my insurance already went up $200 a month.

          • Karolyn

            Bob from Calif – That’s just because of the greedy insurance company. Why would it have anything to do with what’s to come?

          • Jana

            Karolyn
            Greedy, sure, that may be so, but the Obama health care fiasco has only and is only going to make it worse.
            It could have been fixed right, and still needs to be, but the hostage taking of Obama care is not helping.

          • bob wire

            “but the Obama health care fiasco has only and is only going to make it worse.”

            Oddly enough, it was actually a “republican plan” until the democrats decide to use it. Now the GOP wants no part of it. LOL!

            oh well, ~ when the GOP has the power to push through their own new plan, I hope that they bother to address it and maybe immigration while they are on a roll. I think I might like their plan better then anything the dem’s might come forward with.

          • Jana

            bob wire,
            Sure, of course it was, said very sarcastically.

          • eddie47d

            Bob in Calif.; Your coverage has gone up because your private insurer is still gouging you.

        • Matt Newell

          Robert Smith says:
          “Only care about themselves! Sook, that’s a new low.” — but it is the truth.

          “Who cares about offering medical care to millions who don’t have it now?” — what do you mean? Every person in America can get medical attention even if they aren’t citizens (check out the emergancy rooms if you don’t believe me).

          “Who cares about getting kids fed breakfast at school?” — I see more food thrown away than goes into their bodies.

          “Who cares about getting kids educated?” — certainly NOT the teachers union (which is beholden to the Democrats).

          “Who cares about making sure our elders get their fair share after contributing all their lives?” — a hundred percent of nothing is still nothing. The entitlements are going broke faster than you are aging. Soon NOBODY will be getting anything at all (thanks to ALL politicians we elected over the last sixty years).

          “The Republicans sure don’t as they use their efforts to cut all those things.” — again you have to have money to spend before you spend it. The Democrats are spending money they don’t have which means we are BROKE.

          Rob

          • Jana

            Matt Newell,
            Who care about getting kids fed anywhere? Answer, certainly not there own parents.

            Great post. You answered all of the questions and very well too.

          • Karolyn

            “Every person in America can get medical attention even if they aren’t citizens (check out the emergancy rooms if you don’t believe me).”

            Maybe they can get basic care; but beyond that, forget it!

            Personally, I believe there should be more medical corporations like the one I go to. It is a nonprofit, run extremely well, providing extensive serices and charging on a sliding scale as well as accepting all insurance. Excellent organization!

          • vicki

            Karolyn writes:
            “I believe there should be more medical corporations like the one I go to. …. Excellent organization!”

            Good idea. So what is stopping you from starting a few yourself?

          • http://?? Joe H.

            karolyn,
            and how much tax mony do they get??? am I paying for YOUR medical care??? How about you pay for MINE for a change??? Let’s see, you are going to college on the dole, getting health care on the dole, welfare? Do you PAY for ANYTHING!!!

        • Bob G

          Who cares about offering millions free medical care? Hey, get a job and medical insurance. It’s not an entitlement.

          Who cares about feeding kids at school? hey, teach their crack head, welfare sucking mothers to get out of bed and feed them.

          Who cares about educating children? hey, not union teachers. That’s for sure.

          Who cares about elders getting their fair share? hey, Not Barry. He told them he wasn’t going to send checks unless he got his way.

          You’re an idiot.

          • Karolyn

            “Who cares about offering millions free medical care? Hey, get a job and medical insurance. It’s not an entitlement.”

            Do you live in a different country? Sure, just run right out and get a job on which you can afford medical insurance. You sound lke you’re rich, like the politicians who don’t know what it’s like to live in the real world.

          • Kate8

            karolyn – You are right…times are tough.

            That still doesn’t make it make it my responsibility to see that the poor get top-grade medical care.

            I cannot afford doctors, either. So I don’t use them. Don’t want to use them.

            If anyone really cared about people’s health we’d have choices, and the cost of care would be reasonable, not available only for the wealthy or with insurance. We’d be teaching people how to eat well, while producing healthy foods instead of toxic phudes. Congress wouldn’t be working to ban all natural products to insure we have NO choices, and that we’d all be sick enough to be forced into whatever “help” we could get.

            This is all upside-down and backwards, and has been nothing but another part of the scheme to control our lives.

          • Jana

            Kate8,
            Very well said, and my thoughts exactly.

          • eddie47d

            Kate 8;Who says anyone else would use a doctor unless they needed one? Choices in healthcare? Not yet but it is coming. It might even be much fairer for most. Eating healthy? Not if the Monsanto’s and other big corporations have their way. You will have to be self sufficient or you are at corporates mercy.

          • Karolyn

            Kate – I feel the same way about doctors. I turn 65 next year, and I don’t even want Medicare. Haven’t had insurance in many years and don’t need it! Well, actually, I almost forgot; I do have a very limited policy right now but no need to even use it. I just wish we could start educating kids better and younger about taking care of their own health, and then we would have no healthcare problem.

          • Jana

            eddie,
            Actually I have a couple of friends that work in the ER. They say that people on welfare come in for anything and most of it is just time consuming and minor.

            In the military before they had the families pay for insurance, they would go in for an aspirin for a headache. The would clog up the system.
            I guess some people just don’t think. You know how it is, there are always a few out there.

          • Dan az

            Has anyone thought about why the medical cost are so high?Try looking into the law suits and the cost that is past on to us.With the insurance companies paying out of pocket to avoid long law suits they just keep charging the medical field more and more until they just give up.At least they want to help but the low lives that want free money just keep sticking it to us with frivolous law suits day after day.We are the ones that suffer because the best thing that they could come up with is obumercare.Thats going to be the way they give you your bill to pay dont read it just sign it then you can find out how much you owe.

          • eddie47d

            Lawsuits are less than 2% of healthcare costs and probably should be lower. What would you do if a loved one died on the operating table because of the incompetence of a doctor. I’m not talking about human error but maybe a drinking or drug problem. There has to be a way to redeem a problem and lawsuits are sometimes the only way. I have never sued anyone in case you are wondering.

        • Larry

          Robbie baby, you know all the lying leftist “talking points”, and I’m sure that’s as far as your minimal level of intelligence can go. Your Demorat buddies will bankrupt the country so that no children will be educated (they’re barely being educated now by your union teachers anyway), and nobody will have breakfast except for Ozero, Reid, Pelosi, Soros, and the other wealthy leftists.

          Just remember that doing good with other people’s money works really well, right up until other people’s money runs out. It’s fixin’ to run out you moron.

        • the77surfer

          Well, rob maybe if their parents weren’t such deadbeats to begin with, they could be fed at home before going to school. The department of education is a waste of tax payers’ money joke. Another department of let’s see how we can secretly embezzle tax payers’ money. All I see from this joke is conformity. The schools will teach what we see as relevant (TAXS,STAR or whatever) they label it as. At least when I went to school, we actually learn the material that the teacher taught, and quizzed & tested on that.

        • DaveH

          Robert,
          Dream on, Liberal.
          “Who cares about offering medical care to millions who don’t have it now?”
          Certainly not you, Robert. Thanks to you and your cohorts adding hundreds of middlemen and regulations to the health care costs, there will be less medical care available, not more.
          “Who cares about getting kids fed breakfast at school?”.
          Certainly not you, Robert, or you wouldn’t be stumping for the kind of system that is indebting our children and grandchildren for spending that they didn’t even get to vote on.
          “Who cares about getting our kids educated?”
          Are you kidding me, Robert? The Liberals have controlled our educational system for decades, and the test scores have been going down.
          “Who cares about making sure our elders get their fair share after contributing all their lives?”
          OMG, Robert, tell me you aren’t really that ignorant. The Social Security funds were taken out of their “lockbox” by Democrats. There is nothing there now but IOUs, thanks to Democrats.
          And don’t even try to convince us of your compassion, Robert. Using other peoples’ time and money is NOT caring. It is SLAVERY AND THEFT!

          • Dan az

            Dave I love the way you put it in to such easy terms for robert but you know he cant read only parrot.braaaaack :)

        • CJM

          Robert Smith: I suppose you support having shar’ia replace our laws as you allow communism waltz in the door. People, regardless of party affiliation, care–and they will continue to support HUMANITARIAN PROGRAMS. Why do you tell such bigoted lies.

        • Void1972

          Rob
          “Life Liberty and the PURSUIT of happiness”. Happiness is not guaranteed, neither is your next meal! You reap what you sow. Why should we be paying for people who choose to have many children out of wedlock? Why should we pay for illegal aliens that should not be here in the first place? Why should we pay for lazy, useless individuals who suck off the system and waste their entire lives because the government deems them “entitled”. How demented your thinking is.
          America’s wealth used to stay here. Our wealthiest business men used to invest back in America. Now they all waste the money created here in America, and waste it on Africa and other hopeless third world countries. America is broke, and we can no longer afford paying for corrupt organizations. Since 1965 almost two trillion dollars were wasted in Africa, and nothing has changed. Two trillion dollars would be enough to build every hospital and university in America!
          Now we have a typical corrupt African president destroying America. This is crazy. Enough is enough. Get these clowns out of office before they take us down to an African standard of living.
          The elite should put money back into America and take care of the country where they made their wealth.
          American’s used to take care of their own through charity and thats the way it should be.

        • http://naver sook young

          Sorry Robert, but these things are personal responsibilities or the responsibilities of the parents and not the government. Please do not lie to me Robert. Thank you.

          Sook Young
          Wife of the Samurai

        • Stan

          Keep drinking the kool aid Smith it makes the lies easier

        • http://PersonalLibertydigest vieteravet

          Being a teacher, the unions and the DOE care nothing about education. They only care about lining their pockets!

      • Jana

        Sook Young,
        I so agree with you. The leftists have beocome antagonists. They have become addicts. Their addiction? Answer: to other people’s money.
        These sweet sweet liberals who preach tolerance is showing themselves up in their full glory of fear mongering, hatred and INTOLERANCE.

        They had all better be careful, they sound like they are going to self destruct. Their own blood pressure is at a boiling point.

        • eddie47d

          Jana’s blood pressure must be through the roof with that little spiel.

          • Jana

            eddie,
            Not at all. When you tell the truth, you have nothing to worry about.

          • http://naver sook young

            Thank you for telling the truth Jana and Joe H. We know that the liberals only care about redistribution of the wealth and destruction of our great country’s Constitution.

            Sook Young
            Wife of the Samurai

            P.S. The stress and work levels also affect our blood pressure. Unfortunately, the stress and workload of the liberals is the ultimate destruction of this great Christian founded nation. I’ll pray tnat they do not succeed.

        • eddie47d

          So that is why my blood pressure is always on it’s mark.Excellent point Jana!

          • http://?? Joe H.

            eddie,
            Nope, that’s just due to the fact that you have no conscience!! That works the same way!

          • eddie47d

            Nice to hear from you sicko Joe.

      • USAF VET

        Actually I think we can go one step farther up (or down) depending on how you look at it. People like Biden, Mathews, BHO, Harry Reid, Nancy Peloci, are more like sociopaths. Just look at what they have done singlehandedly in the past 2 1/2 years to our country. BHO, Biden, Reid, and Pelosi being the worst of them.

      • Lost in Paradise

        My condolences to you and yours, and good luck with that which is coming your way as a citizen of our once great country.

    • Ret

      Agree. Actually would prefer to deal with the Italian Mafia. They took care of their own. I didn’t agree with them, but at least they had a code of honor that’s better than anything in our present government that prefers to take care of anyone but their own.

    • eddie47d

      As usual nothing better for you folks to do than beat up on Chris Matthews.I guess that makes your day! I’m thinking it’s the Conservatives who have no shame and accuse others of doing exactly what you are doing. It was nice of Ben to bring up Anders Breivik for that was a surprise. You remember that Norway guy(in case you have short memories) who bought guns from America and “worshiped” Islamophobic American authors.In Anders rant before his rage he quoted Daniel Pipes an American neo-conservative 18 times. He also quoted Robert Spencer 55 times and also his friend Pam Geller(a professional blogger). These Americans have advocated violence against Muslims which greatly influenced Anders behavior.Now think back to all the times the rest of you anti-Muslim bloggers have asked for the extermination of all Muslims. The chickens are indeed coming home to roost. Will you be willing to take responsibility for the actions of Anders since your heros egged him on? You are indeed the fright wing in this country for your despicable encouragement of Muslim hatred in this country. Maybe the deaths of those 76 folks in Norway,mostly children, will finally sober you up to the reality of your Muslim bashing. Since some of you never discuss anything in rational terms and express yourselves with the same venom as the Norway killer you deserve far worse than I am willing to dish out.

      • independant thinker

        ” who bought guns from America ”

        Provide some proof he bought his guns from America.

        • Push comes to Shove

          As usual Mr.ED (horse joke there) has no proof just peanut butter under the lips to make it appear he is using his brain.

          Eddie,
          Breveik was a nut plain and simple, just like Loughner. Loons like these have twisted sociopathic minds, and cannot be linked with any particular group as they are typically loners. What group did either of these guys belong to? None of any prominance or distinction, i surmise. They read what ever they get thiers hands on and use twisted logic to justify to themselves what they did.

          If anyone is responsible for his actions it would be liberals or progressives who have over the years told everyone that they are not respobsible for thier own actions because there is some mystical force or reasoning to blame for thier crimes (i.e. if it feels good, do it).

          • crystal

            …or liberals who constantly say they can be reformed.

          • eddie47d

            Then why did so many of you blame Loughner for having communist leanings? Could you be talking out of both ends to justify the means?

          • Jana

            They are a Socialist country. If he was right then over here he would be considered a Democrat.

          • eddie47d

            Socialism works very well in Norway Jana. Every country has there right wing nut cases like Timothy McVeigh. Which only proves that your side has some really bad days and can be very vengeful.

          • Jana

            eddie,
            As I said, if he was right wing over ther in Sweden, over here in the U. S. he would be considered a Democrat.

          • eddie47d

            We heard you the first time Jana. There aren’t many unhappy Norwegians so you point is pointless. Not many unhappy Swedes or Danes either. Capitalism and Socialism can work together and they even have better healthcare. Some of you need to stop spooking everyone.

          • JeffH

            eddie says, “Then why did so many of you blame Loughner for having communist leanings?”

            Personally, I don’t recall that Loughner was accused on this board of having communist leanings…

            I do however remember Loughner being accused of having liberal leanings so I can see how you would be able to arrive at that “communist leanings” comment…as they are somewhat comparable.

          • Jana

            eddie,
            There sure are a lot of unhappy Swedish families right now. Sadly an
            unbalanced person that will do what he did, would do this for any self perceived reason and in any country.

          • eddie47d

            Swedes are unhappy Jana? You sure are a mixed up women…..Jeff the fact that Loughner had the communist manifesto in his home was daily cannon fodder for the right who said he had communist leanings. He also had an Ayn Rand book in his room but that was downplayed. Hmmmm,I wonder why?

          • JeffH

            eddie, beg to differ with your ill informed response and logic.
            Laughner’s favorite books were the “Communist Manifesto and Mein Kampf”. He had also read Ayn Rand’s “We The Living”, which raises 2 questions. Both Ayn Rand and Hitler despised communism so, by your logic, would Laughner a Nazi? I doubt that too. Laughner was a total nut case.
            1. did he have Marxist or communist leanings? I doubt it!
            2. did he have NAZI leanings? I doubt it!

          • Jana

            eddue,
            I am talking about the families that lost their loved ones. You don’t think they are unhappy and in mourning right now?
            Think eddie BEFORE you write. You are the mixed up one.

          • Jana

            eddie,
            Sorry about the eddue, it was a typo, I wasn’t trying to change your name.

          • http://naver samurai

            Edduh think? They’ll be having snowball fights in hades before that happens. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님과 국가 대 한!

        • independant thinker

          It has been three and a half hours and no reply from eddie not that I am suprised.

          • eddie47d

            Independent thinker; I didn’t know I was at your beck and call so excuse me my fuhrer! My grandson comes first and you come second so now you don’t have to worry no more. Whew ! What a relief but thanks for the concern.

          • independant thinker

            Still cannot provide any proof I see.

          • eddie47d

            Look up Norway killer like I had to do. Think for yourself thinker!

          • Jana

            Sorry eddie, but when YOU claim it, then YOU prove it.

          • independant thinker

            I did eddie and the ONLY thing it said is he purchased the guns legaly it says nothing about where he purchased them so where is your proof?

          • eddie47d

            When he went to New Jersey.

          • Jana

            Again eddie, you saying it doesn’t give proof. Do you pull these things out of thin air or can you prove it?

          • independant thinker

            eddie has no proof he can only make empty unsupported statements.

          • http://naver sook young

            Can you cite some sources please, Eddie? Thank you.

            Sook Young
            Wife of the Samurai

      • Dagney

        Sorry, Mr. Norway-killer (who is actually a lefty by all accounts because anything called “right-wing” in Europe is about as conservative as Obama is!) is solely responsible for himself. Try another one. Use REAL LIFE logic this time, will ya?

        • eddie47d

          Did the truth about the Norway killer offend you Dagney? I think he is on the same page as some of your babble. Read up on who he listened to and wanted to emulate. That would be your friends right here on this blog.

          • Jana

            Wrong eddie.
            Its more like your friends, the actual terrorists.
            Now they are telling more lies to the college students saying the Republicans have taken college tuition funding away.
            Is there no shame in the lies the lieberals will tell? There has been NOTHING yet established in the debt negotaition stupid bill, except more funding for the Government. More of not living within their means. More printing of money that devalues the Dollar.

          • Nadzieja Batki

            If you dislike the posters,why are you on this site? I gather you like the sound of your fingers on the keyboard. Nothing else makes sense about your posts.

          • eddie47d

            Nice duck and cover Jana! I don’t think that was the subject so why didn’t you answer me instead of going off into outer space? The British deemed our Patriots terrorists against the Crown so be careful the way you throw that word around.

          • Jana

            eddie, eddie,
            I did answer you. I just used your tactics but oooohhhh you don’t like that do you?

          • http://naver sook young

            Ahhhhh such word play to insult others and steal their rights. Thank you.

            Sook Young
            Wife of the Samurai

        • bob wire

          “by all accounts because anything called “right-wing” in Europe is about as conservative as Obama is!”

          You are only saying that because “IT’s TRUE”

          So ~that’s seen a bad thing? How so? What are they doing that’s so wrong? ~that just won’t work or is not fair? I have not been there.

          So where does that place you and your dreams for America in relationship to the rest of the advanced civilized world today? Miles out front? ~ unique, special?

          This manufacturing of political hay by party affiliation “Brand” is a product that is being sold and bought as one would any other commodity today.

          Like Jack Nichols in the part of The Joker, ~ “Try my new Brand X. It’ll put a smile on your face.” :superfluous grin:

          Political News is being crafted , bought and sold. If there is no news, it’s becomes their job to make some. It’s important to note, behind all this fabricated “News Flash” lie gains of truth.

          This Norway killer was first and foremost deranged and disillusioned with what he seen happening in his country and felt his place and position is society was being threatened and so he acted out on his “feeling”. That he banner a Christian manifesto while killing children is heart breaking and unfortunate.( I would not tag and hang that shingle on anybody’s door tho many pieces might fit the profile)

          But does all these feeling, acts, and deeds affiliate him with the extreme far “right” ? Well, it does enough to make good political hay in much the same way as Reverend Wright’s off colored statements or Joe Biden’s rental or some worn out political hippie that showed up at a photo opt years ago with a now sitting president.

          I can’t stop you from your addiction, Yum Yum, eat’em up. We all like it too much. It puts excitement in our uneventful boring lives. What’s the score? O dear! ~ somebody, ~ get’um ~ stop um! It’s much like watching football ~ something I rarely do, while I do enjoy the final quarter of a close, well executed game as much as anyone else. But really, I’d rather be doing instead of watching.

          and why ~ I went to “O’s” birthday party yesterday. Two hours of fun and excitement, but no bobbing for french fries next time.

      • 101stRECON68

        I’ve often wondered why people like you keep coming back to sites like this. I looked at the Huffington Post a couple of times just to see how that group thinks and quickly determined that no way in hell was I was going to read that trash. So if you disagree with just about every contributor on this site, WHY do you keep coming back? Makes no sense to me. For the record, I belong to NO political Party and have voted democrat, republican as well as independent in the past. I am pretty much disgusted with the whole DC machine and politics in general. I think they are all for the most part liars, crooks and thieves who are primarily interested in their own careers more than any love for this country. SO what part of THAT statement do YOU disagree with the most Eddie?

        • crystal

          I actually wrote a comment on the Huffington Post that disagreed with them. They didn’t post the comment and removed me from being able to comment. I’m sure I’m not the only one. This is their policy at the Huffington Post. They go through every single comment to make sure they are not disagreed with. It’s the liberal mindset. As least on conservative sites, all comments are allowed. Disagreeing or not.

          • JeffH

            Gee crystal, that also happened to me a couple years ago on the MSNBC blog NEWSVINE…then I discovered PLD…go figure?

          • Jana

            It’s because they don’t want to hear the truth. They want to propagate their lies. These kooks are addicted to their lies.
            Yesterday on a post denniso called us kooks, and I thought wow if that isn’t the pot calling the kettle black. But the word fits so well for these poor pathetic misguided souls, and I got it from his own mouth so to speak. He labled himself and his ilk with his own words.

          • Larry

            Crystal that passes for “freedom of speech” on the left. They should be able to say anything anywhere they want, and conservatives should just keep their fingers off their keyboards and their big yappers shut. Neat double standard! Seems to be one of the few things besides lying that the left does well. Oh they also spend our money at a good rate too.

          • independant thinker

            Havent tried to post on Huffington but I have had no trouble posting on the vine although one time I was cautioned for calling someone of liberal bent a simplistic know nothing A$$.

          • Laura

            Regarding liberals, If {whatever “it” is} fits their pre-conceived ideology, it is true;if not, it is false. Ideology isn’t rejected when it conflicts with truth; truth is rejected when it conflicts with their ideology. The primary function of liberal-leftist altruistic, selective arguments of religious freedom, “separation of church and state”, free speech, gun ownership, the person-hood of the unborn, racism, the constitutionality of this or that law, etc. is to conceal that fact.

          • eddie47d

            Crystal; Seems like it’s the conservatives who don’t want to hear the truth. Not all sites are like PLD. Have you listened to Rush and how his listeners are pre screened and if “they step out of line” they are disconnected. Then again it is his show just like the Huffington Post.

        • eddie47d

          101stRECON68; Why am I here? To challenge all the lies that are brought up. Some of them are whoppers so are you concerned about what your side thinks or do you just want a sugar coated version from Conservative talking heads who have their own agenda?

          • JeffH

            “To challenge all the lies that are brought up.” LMAO, again and again…

            Ah yes eddie, you are a challenge allright and a convincing one at that!

            I’ll remind you it ended up 20 – 0…nobody believes you anyway…challenge my a–!…ROFLMAO!

          • Nadzieja Batki

            If the posters are liars as you say, then shouldn’t you be worried that the words coming from the same brains may contaminate you.

          • eddie47d

            Do you have a better line Jeff? I hope your socks smell fresher!

          • JeffH

            eddie, how many time do you have to say “baaaahhhh” before you accept that you are a standing member of the flock?

          • eddie47d

            They still smell,Jeff

          • JeffH

            …as do sheeple…

          • Nadzieja Batki

            In a roundabout way you just admitted you are a sheep.

          • http://naver samurai

            Baaaaa, baaaaa, baaaaa, baaaaa, baaaaa, baaaaa, baaaaa, baaaaa, baaaaa, baaaaa, baaaaa, baaaaa, baaaaa, baaaaa, baaaaa, baaaaa, baaaaa, baaaaa, baaaaa, baaaaa, baaaaa, baaaaa, baaaaa, baaaaa, baaaaa, baaaaa, baaaaa, baaaaa, baaaaa, baaaaa, baaaaa, baaaaa!
            FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

          • Dan az

            Welcome back samurai have a good day?

          • http://naver samurai

            Yes I did, fellow patriot (Dan). I would like to wish you and all patriots to have a safe and happy weekend. Did I get edduh’s voice and message pretty well with my response? FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님 하고 나라를 위해서!

          • eddie47d

            Your not hurting my feelings Samurai but only downgrading yourself. Jeff does that all the time too.

          • http://naver samurai

            My intention wasn’t to hurt your feelings, edduh. I was just merely pointing out how I thought your post read and how it sounded. You do sound like a sheep being lead by the nose. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나닌과 국가 대 한!

      • Song

        And you would call this little tirade of yours eddie47d, rational discourse? What a complete joke YOU are!

        • eddie47d

          Do you call Ben’s “words of wisdom” civil discourse? He deliberately tries to cause trouble among your ranks so expect a rebuttal that matches his intensity. Heck I left a few things out that I wanted to say so I was being very nice.

          • DaveH

            Don’t flatter yourself, Eddie. Your fabricated facts, and nonsensical statements which more often than not include putting words in peoples’ mouths, are hardly what I would call rebuts.
            Your attempts to blame an entire class of people for the actions of one man testify to your lack of intelligence. You are just a bigoted zealot.

          • Jana

            eddie,
            Sadly you may match his intensity, but not his wisdom.

          • eddie47d

            Point out my fabricated facts Dave H. You won’t because those facts are out there for the world to see. Once again you fall on your face and attack someone without the knowledge to back yourself up. In other words …a cheap shot!!

          • Jana

            What facts eddie? ? ?

            Thats just it, we have been asking for proof and all you come up with is “look it up, I did”.

          • DaveH

            Okay, here’s one right here on this board:
            “Now think back to all the times the rest of you anti-Muslim bloggers have asked for the extermination of all Muslims”
            Prove it, Eddie. It’s so easy for you to spew your lies. Show us where anybody on this website said that.

          • http://naver sook young

            I beg your pardon, Eddie. I’ve never asked for the death of anyone. Please do not lie about me. Thank you.

            Sook Young
            Wife of the Samurai

          • http://?? Joe H.

            Oh, and eddie? I still haven’t seen any proof that the swede bought his weapons here in the U.S.!?!?!?!?

          • eddie47d

            Sook; Was I referring to you…only if the shoe fits.

          • eddie47d

            Joe; Ammunition clips in Hoboken,New Jersey.

          • eddie47d

            There you go Dave H. I guess I’ll have to write down each and every one of the sick comments made on this site since you all have selected memories. I did do that with Time when he posted on 12/17/10 but he denied it too even though it was there in black and white.

          • eddie47d

            Those pesky little facts that I posted at 8;58am Jana.

          • Jana

            eddie, They are facts because you say so? hahaha I don’t think so. You leftist can read something and truth somehow gets twisted. Also, it has to be from a valued source, not a leftist blog.

          • independant thinker

            eddie ammunition clips (magazines) are NOT weapons. You claim he purchased his guns in/directly from the US and you have not provided one shread of proof to support that claim. The claim of him purchasing the magazines from the US is based on his journal so far I have seen nothing to support that claim no sales receipts, no shipping records, no order forms. Even if he did get his firearms directly from the US he did so legaly because the authorities said they were registered legally possessed firearms. getting any magazines from the Us means nothing either for he stated he could have gotten them from sweeden but those were more expensive than the ones he supposedly ordered from the US.

      • JeffH

        Yes, it takes an “eddie” to stand up for a Chris Matthews. WOW! Just when ya thought there could be no lower lows…voila…up jumps eddie!

        “Every man who parrots the cry of ‘stand by the President’ without adding the proviso ‘so far as he serves the Republic’ takes an attitude as essentially unmanly as that of any Stuart royalist who championed the doctrine that the King could do no wrong. No self-respecting and intelligent free man could take such an attitude.” – Theodore Roosevelt

        • Laura

          Ed is evidently getting a lot of ‘tingling’ up and down his legs and elsewhere….

        • eddie47d

          You jump up for pious Breitbart Jeff so why the hypocrisy? I know you just can’t help yourself!

          • JeffH

            …when you post your “challenge”,do you get the same sensational tingle as Matthews?

          • eddie47d

            Are you copying Laura Jeff? She already beat you to that punch line but no ones laughing!

          • JeffH

            Oh yes eddie, people are laughing…you can’t hear them but they are laughing…LMAO!

          • http://?? Joe H.

            HAHAHAHAHAHAHEHEHEHEHOHOHOHO!!!!! I HaHaHa Been HeHeHeHe laughing HoHoHo at Hah Hah Hah eddie hahahehehoho for months!!!! LMAO!!!!!!

          • JeffH

            Joe H., you did it again…now I have to clean my screen, second time today…yer killin me! :)

          • http://naver sook young

            You get tingles Eddie? Aren’t they related to some form of sexual arousal? Thank you.

            Sook Young
            Wife of the Samurai

          • Dan az

            OK now that one just covered my screen thanks allot!!!! :)

          • Dan az

            Samurai
            I know that was you :)
            Stop getting sook in trouble!!! :)

          • http://naver samurai

            OK Dan. I just couldn’t help myself. I really had to beg hard and buy a dozen roses afterwards for my repentance. If he didn’t get tingles, maybe he tinkled. I guess edduh had to mop the floor today.
            FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님 하고 나라를 위해서!

          • eddie47d

            No pee on my floor Samurai! My grandson did a number on our couch last year but he was only a year old. Kind of how you are acting. What! That is no act?

          • http://naver samurai

            I understand about your 1 year old grandson. When my youngest son was around that age, I was holding him and in dress uniform. Just imagine how it looked after he finished. Second, was that a cheap shot of your own? If it was, it wasn’t very effective. Since you want to go back to grade school, I guess I can say,”I’m rubber and you are glue. Anything you say bounces off of me and sticks to you.” Now did we really accomplish anything? I do hope that the Congresswoman heals completely and I wish her luck. The man from Norway was a nutcase yes, but why does that make him to the right of center? He claimed doing this, because of the colonization of Europe by the muslims. Now we both know there are people to the left of center who don’t like muslims either. Just ask the ones that are now against Obama bin Laden. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님과 국가 대 한!

      • chilipadi

        Just like your liar-in-chief and his minions, you are so, so shameless.

        • eddie47d

          No, the conservatives who spend half their energy attacking Muslims are the ones who are shameless. Don’t blink! You all think the Crusades are still in full swing with our wars and interference in the Middle East. I believe Obama has joined your cause in his wars also.

          • DaveH

            As usual, Eddie is putting words in other peoples’ mouths.
            Who mentioned Muslims, Eddie? Only you.
            Methinks there are a few bats in your belfry, Eddie.
            The Enterprise could operate freely in the vast space between your ears.

          • Jana

            DaveH,
            Don’t you realize this is the old lieberal tactic of change the subject?

          • JeffH

            Jana says, “Don’t you realize this is the old lieberal tactic of change the subject?”

            Generally, Yes! In eddie’s case it’s done ny accident, the inability to comprehend and focus, so NO!

          • Jana

            JeffH,
            OOOOOOhhhh, ;0.

          • Nadzieja Batki

            What are you babbling now?

          • Jana

            JeffH,
            Ah ha! ;)

          • eddie47d

            Wow, The opportunity to nail 4 birds with one stone. That would be Dave H,Jana,Jeff and Nadzieja if you are counting! I know it is hard for some of you to pay attention on what the author said but he did mention Anders Breivik the Norway killer. Anders is an extreme Islamophobic who put his and his American thinkers opinions into actions and killed several children. In other words he hated Muslims like soooo many on this site. Now is it all coming back to you since you like being sarcastic to me? Now if Ben didn’t want the subject broached then he should not have brought it up. So Dave I did not change the subject and you seem to be hiding from it.Then your minions come trailing behind you in the typical gang bang.

          • JeffH

            eddie says, “I know it is hard for some of you to pay attention…”

            Really? I mean REALLY? OOOO…KKKKKKK! If you say so it must be true.

            Can we take a poll on it? Could you even stand another round of rejection? Sure you can…you couldn’t grasp the levity of it anyway.

          • DaveH

            You’re stoned, Eddie. That is the only possible explanation for your nonsense.
            And again I ask, Eddie, “Who mentioned Muslims?”

            This, Folks, is a representative of the Union people who think they should control our lives.

          • eddie47d

            Good grief The baffle twins-Jeff and Dave. They get nuttier by the day. I won’t even respond to the insanity of your other posts below. Did you both walk into a wall at the same time….thunk!

          • http://?? Joe H.

            Darn! Stoned and watching his grandson, Has his son/daughter no shame???

          • http://naver sook young

            Since he didn’t have approval by Congress or the Senate, that makes his wars unconstitutional. How are they the same as Bush? Thank you.

            Sook Young
            Wife of the Samurai

      • Dale on the left coast

        He also quoted Klein, Darwin and other leftist loons. He was a dedicated Darwinist . . . so Eddie . . . I would suggest he is a member of your camp . . . certainly not anything Conservative!!!

        • eddie47d

          Maybe he had multiple personalities like you Dale!

          • http://naver sook young

            Do you hold a degree in medical psychiatry to make such a diagnosis? Thank you.

            Sook Young
            Wife of the Samurai

      • Malexnd

        “Police prosecutor Christian Hatlo told AFP he could not confirm that the killer had received help.(means guns)
        “The only thing I can confirm is that he has spoken about his trips abroad, to a number of countries,” he said.”

        You are such a liar he did not get “all” his guns from USA and the phrase you use : “These Americans have advocated violence against Muslims which greatly influenced Anders behavior” belong to you not to “These Americans”, you are despicable liar, talk for your self not for the nation. You should wash your mouth of all that dirt coming from your wc that you call head(brains). O yeh you may be a comunist/fascist masked as “democrat”/”liberal”

        • eddie47d

          All you have to do is pull up all the rants against kicking Muslims out of this country and bingo that truth could set you free if you care to challenge yourself.

          • Jana

            boy eddie,
            You have been not been paying attention. No one, has been saying to kick the Muslems out of this country. What we have been saying is, now pay attention, we want them to assimilate into our society.
            Sheesh!

          • JeffH

            eddie picked up two new words while he was away…”challenge and muslims”…beam me up Scotty?

          • eddie47d

            Jana has been on this site long enough to hear the vicious comments about Muslim Americans so stop playing coy.

          • Jana

            eddie,
            I have studied Islamism now for some time. I am not being coy when I point out the evils of this religion. However there are many many Muslims who do not follow, nor do they want to follow Islam.
            Get real.

      • Bob from Calif.

        Hey Eddie, I would be willing to bet that you would kiss the feet of the christian conservative soldiers that stop the Muslim Jihadists from sawing off your head with a dull knife.

      • DaveH

        Just as soon as you take responsibility, Eddie, for impoverishing our country with your Liberal ways.
        And you also need to take responsibility for the millions of people killed by Socialist Governments who couldn’t have come to power without clueless people like yourself supporting them.

      • CJM

        Your irresponsibility in truthtelling, eddie47d, puts you right at par with the Dunce in the WH—”that guy in Norway” (Breivik is his name–sorry for your short memory) had his own agenda. And if you read the excerpts provided by the Norwegian news, you would know that he rambled on and on, eventually discounting anything you deem ‘conservative’ by US standards. As for his weapon of choice, you can buy American made anyplace in the world just as you can purchase one made in some other country. Get your head out of the bucket and start living in reality.

        • eddie47d

          CJM; Yes his name is Anders Breivik so no short memory here since I already mentioned that. I am also very aware that we sell guns all over the world and they don’t always end up in the right hands. Anders also had ammunition clips mailed to Norway from the USA.That has been well documented. Now please pull your head out before you ramble on and on again.

          • DaveH

            Duh, let me use Eddie’s logic (or lack thereof).
            Eddie Harrington killed his three children. His name was Eddie, and he is a man. Eddie47d must then also be a murderer.
            Duh. How’d I do, Eddie?
            You are such a hopeless Troll, Eddie. Don’t you have something you could do around your house instead of regaling us with your nonsense?

          • JeffH

            “Anders also had ammunition clips mailed to Norway from the USA. That has been well documented.”

            You call “unnamed small U.S. supplier” well documented?

            I’m not surprised at all. I think some stronger concrete evidence should be in order before I’d believe the rants in a lunatics “manifesto” or the kneejerk anti-gun finger pointing at US suppliers.

            This is what you call “well documented”…

            Anders Behring Breivik wrote in a 1,500-page manifesto that he bought 10 30-round ammunition clips for his .223 caliber rifle from an unnamed small U.S. supplier, which then in turn acquired the clips from other suppliers.

          • independant thinker

            “Anders also had ammunition clips mailed to Norway from the USA.That has been well documented”

            Last I heard the “documentation” of that was from Breivik’s journal not hard proof such as receipts and shipping conformations. Besides magazines (ammunition clips) are NOT guns and ammunition like you claim he purchased from the US.

      • Lost in Paradise

        Eddie you would not be able to speak like that if you were with me personally. I feel compelled to give some lessons in violence that you would certainly never forget. It would also go a long way to regulating the &hit coming from your piehole.

  • 101stRECON68

    Sook, you had to DO something in order to become a citizen of this great nation and you have the right to appreciate what you have obtained. So you have my respects. So many of these other useless members of our society had to do nothing except breathe in order to claim citizenship, so it really means little to them. They would gladly hand over their freedom to the Lords and Ladies in DC for a few crumbs and have done so. I truly believe that soon we will all have to pay dearly for our freedoms or loose them entirely.

    • http://naver sook young

      I think so too. I’ll try be writing and calling, my husband Samurai would have to do the fighting. Thank you for your service.

      Sook Young
      Wife of the Samurai

      • JeffH

        …FOR GOD AND COUNTRY FELLOW PATRIOTS… :)

        • http://?? Joe H.

          JeffH,
          A very large AMEN to that!!!

          • JeffH

            Joe H., always good to know you are around…fellow patriot!

          • http://naver sook young

            I’m glad to see so many patriots on this site. I;m proud to be an American and am glad there are many others on this site who feel the same, by trying to fight for it. Thank you.

            Sook Young
            Wife of the Samurai

            FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님 하고 나라를 위해서!

          • JeffH

            sook young, not only are you an American patriot but you are married to a great American patriot also.

            하나님과 국가 대 한

          • Dan az

            That Goes for me too!

          • Jana

            Hooray for my friend Sook Young.

          • http://naver sook young

            Thank you everyone. I’m proud to be an American. But my pride is a lot different then Michelle Obama’s make believe pride. Thank you.

            Sook Young
            Wife of the Samurai
            하나님과 국가 대 한!

  • AttilaTheHun

    Ben,

    Thank you for a great column. I’m continually appalled at the left’s use of name calling (terrorists, Nazis,…). And *we’re* the ones accused of hate speech! I especially like the tea-bagger label, as if we’re not smart enough to get the reference to homosexual anal intercourse. That’s ironic as it’s likely that a majority of the gay community votes Democrat, so their pejorative term either means they consider us part of one of their favorite groups or doesn’t think much of one of their favorite groups.

    Bruce Raymond

    • http://marcum1@wildblue.net coal miner

      sook young

      하나님과 국가 대 한
      God and Country-to-one!???

  • Charles

    Sorry Mr. Matthews, the only way I will listen to you any more is when you come up with a heart felt apology to those of us who are concerned and heart broken over the direction our nation is going. This may not mean anything to the liberal media and poltician, but my TV has been off for the past two years because of the direction you are trying to take America.

    • Vagabond

      Charles I quit watching chris mathews years ago. he is a typical sick liberal democrat.for news I only watch the FOX Network stations.especialy Oriely and Hanity. and I love Huck,

      • Push comes to Shove

        Watch Fox business, if you have it, Judge Napolitano and John Stossel are great Americans and thier Liberatarian views are right on que with conservative values.

        • JeffH

          …Can I add Cavuto and Varney into that mix…by far the most informative broadcasts on the air is FOX Business…

          • DaveH

            Don’t forget David Asman, and Eric Bolling.

          • http://naver sook young

            Don’t forget our woman patriot Michelle Malkin. Thank you

            Sook Young
            Wife of the Samurai

          • Jana

            Dook Y,
            I love Michelle Malkin. She tells it like it is.

          • JeffH

            Jana, me too! Like a pitbull protecting it’s territory.

          • http://naver sook young

            Thank you everyone!

            Sook Young
            Wife of the Samurai

        • Linda

          Question: Who said that Gabraille Gifford was the target? What about the Judge that we never heard about? I never heard of Gifford until the shooting but Judges make a lot of enemies!

          • JeffH

            ..point taken…

    • 45caliber

      My TV hasn’t been connected to an antenna in years. All I can get on it are DVD’s. And I haven’t missed a thing.

      • independant thinker

        Oh but you have 45. You missed “Sons of Guns”, “Top Shot”, a very balanced series on History channel a couple of years back that covered the history of firearms and their development, R Lee Earmy’s series on US military firearms among others. To receive these you would need either satalite or cable not an antenna.

        • JeffH

          …and the newest but far from the best is “One Man Army” on Discovery. I actually like the Outdoor Channel’s Midway USA Wednesday Night At The Range…

          7:00 PM: MidwayUSA’s The Best Defense: Survival!
          7:30 PM: MidwayUSA’s Gun Stories
          8:00 PM: Field & Stream’s The Gun Nuts Presented by Smith & Wesson
          8:30 PM: Shooting USA
          9:00 PM: Shooting USA
          9:30 PM: Shooting USA’s Impossible Shots
          10:00 PM: American Rifleman Television

        • JeffH

          Sons of Guns is an awesome show!

          • http://?? Joe H.

            JeffH,
            those guys are VERY talented!! did you see the one where they converted a belt fed 30 cal machine gun to a shoulder fired rifle?? Man, that guys shoulder must be STILL sore!!

          • JeffH

            Haven’t missed a show yet…have you ever checked out their website – Red Jacket Firearms? A lot of cool stuff. They even have some “California Legal” stuff.

  • Jonathan

    Ben, I have tried to see things from the liberal perspective, but my head just wouldn’t fit up my ass. So now I just shake my head sadly and leave them be (of course, they have no idea I have left because their heads are firmly planted… well, you know where). Some of them continue to argue with me long after I have left the room and feel that they are winning the argument simply because they have stunned me to silence with their blather.

  • http://www.easyinvest.co.za peter

    Nice to see Julia back and healthy. God bless. Doubt she would have swum with Ted.Sometimes we mess up so bad that we cannot repair things. Maybe this is that time?

  • just little ole me

    Gabby glad to have you back. I may not agree with all your politics but still the same glad to have you back. Unlike many us independent/republican/libertarian and yes some but few democrats are glad to have you back. God bless you and please help clean up Washington.

    • http://?? Joe H.

      just little ole me,
      I am waiting with baited breath to hear what she says now about gun rights. She used to be in favor, now I don’t know. I hope she hasn’t changed her mind about that. Afterall, it was a loonie that shot her, not a law abiding citizen! It sure would knock the feet out from under the anti gunners if she still supports gun owners rights!!

      • JeffH

        Joe H., don’t know too much about Gifford’s background on gun cotrol, but it seems she is “middle of the road” both Pro and Con on the issue, depending…keep an eye on her, it’ll be interesting.

        • pegasis

          She was once asked how she felt about death threats she had recieved, and her reply was, ” I have a .357, and I know how to shoot it.”

          • JeffH

            …Gifford supports concealed carry and supports a ban on semi-autos…wishy washy…Indicate which principles you(Gifford)support concerning gun issues. Source: 2000 Arizona State National Political Awareness Test Nov 1, 2000

            Ban the sale or transfer of semi-automatic guns, except those used for hunting.

            Maintain and strengthen the enforcement of existing state restrictions on the purchase and possession of guns.

            Allow citizens to carry concealed guns.

            Require manufacturers to provide child-safety locks on guns.
            Require background checks of gun buyers at gun shows

      • 45caliber

        Joe:

        Generally any liberal who goes through a crime ends up pro-gun. Hopefully she will.

        • http://?? Joe H.

          45caliber,
          not always, let’s not forget Brady!!

        • bob wire

          such prediction is no more accurate then a coin toss. 50/50 or 1 to 1 is bad odds to hang hopes and dreams on. Even Russian Roulette offers 6 to 1 odds.

          Allow me to rephrase your statement 45 . “People” that are victims of gun crimes usually turn “Pro Gun”.

          I am only sure of one thing, Ms. Gifford is very lucky to be alive today much less have possession of her mental and motor skills.

  • Thinking About

    Shame on tea baggers. Has any Congress members driving this great nation to finanical ruin stopped and realized if all offices was held by tea baggers they would inherit a ruined nation. Maybe they know it would never happen they would hold all offices and thought defeating this nation through financial destruction would prove what point. Terrorism comes in different clothes. For the post of falsehoods on Obama, democrats and republicans on this site and you are crying shame.

    • sandcasstle

      What?

      • Jana

        Doubtfully thinking,

        Shame on the Lie-beral lefitst Democrats. Has any Congress members driving this great nation to finanical ruin stopped and realized if all offices was held by LEFTISTS LIE-BERAL DEMOCRATS we would inherit a ruined nation? Becasue of the TEA PARTY they know it would never happen as they would hold all offices and thoughts, defeating this nation through financial destruction.
        Terrorism comes in different clothes. Obama became a terrorist when he threatened that granny was being thrown over a cliff. He became a terrorist when he threatened that the Social Security Checks would be withheld unless he got his way boo hoo. Obama became a terrorist when he said he could not gualrantee the military would get their pay.
        Talk about terroristic tactics.

        Doubtfully thinking about,
        For the post of supporting the falsehoods and lies that Obama stands for, YOU and the rest of the LIE-BERALS on this site are NOT ONLY A crying shame, BUT YOU ARE PATHETIC.

        • Thinking About

          Are you so shallow to think when you wake up after another election and think when you went to bed this nation was in ruins it will not be in ruins the next day. You have to think past your next high to see where this world stands. Crazy rants and name calling along with gun totters does not qualify any person to manage the responsibility of running even the corner store.

          • Jana

            Doubtfully thinking,
            And now I know you are not thinking at all because I took your own post and turned it around on you. You are the shallow one here. You aren’t even smart enough to remember what you yourself wrote.
            You lable yourself with your own words shallow man.

    • Former Walmart person

      What was the highest grade you completed? I can barely understand your “english”. Liberals are funny people. The exact state they claim to be against ends up resulting. For example, liberals love affirmative action because they believe it results in the state of ending racism. In fact, however, affirmative action is incredibly racist because you are implying that white, older, middle class, christian males are superior and don’t need any handicaps or assistance. As school kids, we didn’t want to be on the team that needed a handicap, because that meant we sucked.

      • Thinking About

        Former Walmart must have gotten kicked to the curb got rid of the zero and got themselves Heros. Must be you lack of comprehension.

        • DaveH

          No, About, it’s your poor English skills.

      • bob wire

        “For example, liberals love affirmative action because they believe it results in the state of ending racism. ”

        Your folly is that you use the word “liberals” to identify your opposition and use the word “love” is a superfluous manner.

        There is all kind of people that affiliate themselves with the DNC and not all are liberals or progressives ~

        Then you suggest “affirmative action” is seen by these liberals as some kind of a cure all fix for social racial disparity and inequity that’s been en-gained into the social fabric of America over the course of 200 plus years.

        That simple not the case Sir. It’s not a cure all fix, but a medication to heal an illness and is to be discontinued when health improved.

        It’s pass time for such medication in America today for reasons too long to list.

        And “love” hasn’t a damn thing to do with it.

        Spotting and handicapping his long been a common practice on the playing field or race track Sir. The “Bell Curve” grading system is yet another way of handicapping and spotting for the purpose of some “common good”. It makes the game, the system work and includes much larger numbers and more people can be “included” and participate.

        Would you like to go stroke for stroke with Tiger Wood? I sure would, but I wouldn’t expect to win. So if you don’t like losing, you are left to not play.

        and what is it about being a Former employee of anything , much less Walmart something you wish to share? Surly your life experiences extend beyond one employer? I worked for Montgomery Wards for few years myself, Bell Helicopter as young man, Marine Salvage and Recovery, US Army, Tarrant Country Sheriff office, Safeway, Worth Theater, School of Dance, the list is long ~ so what does that all mean? nothing ~I’m old?

        I come before you as just an American with one voice and one vote.

        That I might not agree with you makes me only disagreeable and nothing more. I’m surly not a liberal while failing to champion your position and find your statement foolish and annoying.

    • joel

      Smoke some more crack, then try a re posting !

    • Song

      Can we get you a tissue TA? What a joke.

    • JeffH

      …nothing but hollow words…This should make you very happy though…

      Did you see that the the latest, the Communist Party USA already has seen fit to endorse Barack Obama for the 2012 election? Yes, Sam Webb, chairman of the Communist Party USA, threw his support behind Obama’s re-election bid.

      Webb said that for communists there are major differences between Democrats and Republicans. He urged his supported to continue to back the Democrats.

      Nuff said…

      • Jana

        JeffH,
        That’s because the Socialists have already taken over the Democrat Party, and the next step is for the Communists to take over.

        That is why they are trying to use the tactic that the TEA Party people and Conservatives are terrorists. We terrorize the daylights out of the Communists and the Socialits.

        We will NOT put up with the Communists and the Socialists ideologies. We will stand against these kooks. Yep, thanks denniso, I like that word. It fits you all quite well.

        • eddie47d

          Gee Jeff did all 300 members of the communist party USA endorse Obama? Another shameless cheap shot about nothing!! That would be like me saying that David Dukes supports the Republican Party so all Republicans must be blatant racists. Get real you troll for publicity.

          • Jana

            eddie,
            Are you now considering yourself to be FOR Communism here in the United States? Communism is anti God. I thought you said you were a Christian, but more and more I worry about you.What kind of Christian are you? The Rev. Wright kind?

          • DaveH

            Duh, Eddie, you did blame all Conservatives for the actions of Anders Breivik.
            What is wrong with you? When I was a kid, we would have called somebody like you, who makes totally nonsensical statements, a Dork.

          • JeffH

            Gee eddie, another empty analogy…DUH! Of course, Dukes is only one man whom you seem to know quite a bit about.

            A little lesson for you eddie on the CPUSA…the CPUSA finally became estranged from the leadership of the Soviet Union itself; the USSR cut off major funding to the CPUSA in 1989 due to the CP’s opposition to glasnost and perestroika. With the dissolution of the Soviet Union in 1991, the party held its convention and attempted to resolve the issue of whether the Party should reject Marxism-Leninism. The majority reasserted the party’s “now purely Marxist outlook”, prompting a minority faction which urged social democrats to exit the now reduced par.

            No wonder they have endorsed Obama and support the Democrats.

          • http://marcum1@wildblue.net coal miner

            eddie47d
            Here is something about right wing conservative Dr. David Duke.You will find it interesting.

            http://www.michaelparenti.org/KozyWithKlan.html

          • eddie47d

            Thanks, that is more proof that right wingers get more coverage by the media than liberals at the same rallies by the Klan.Our voice is constantly stiffled no matter what the venue. The neo-nazi’s are still at it and the conservative thinks there is a liberal bias.

          • DaveH

            Proof? What a joke. One obscure website says something and Eddie cites it as “proof”.
            Here is a counter to that:
            http://www.mrc.org/biasbasics/biasbasics4.asp

          • eddie47d

            Could be more proof and have more credibility than some of your sideshows. Stop flattering yourself Davy.

          • http://naver sook young

            Isn’t the David Duke story pretty old and forgotten by now? Thank you.

            Sook Young
            Wife of the Samurai

          • eddie47d

            Not since he is running for office again Sook.

          • http://naver sook young

            Thank you for the information Eddie. I’ll look it up. Though he may be racist, I’ll find out if he is, but I don’t think it is comparable to Jeremiah Wright or Luis Farakkhan. These two support Obama whole heartedly. Thank you.

            Sook Young
            Wife of the Samurai

    • Larry

      Aside from being functionally illiterate, what other talents do you display in public?

    • Laura

      Are you actually implying that what you just wrote has anything to do with real logical ‘thinking’

      • Thinking About

        Wholly tea baggers good for one shot all wet and ready for the garbage.

        • Jana

          Thinking About,
          At least they do not have a garbage mouth like you do. Garbage mouth = garbage breath. Phew!

        • DaveH

          Thank Goodness that Bob allows people like Thinking About to post here, so that the good folks can see what Liberals are really like.

          • Jana

            DaveH,
            They aren’t smart enough to realize that all they are doing is making us more determined.

          • eddie47d

            Sorry Jana you are positively making us more determined to expose the disparaging remarks that come out of the controllers on this site.That could be you and Dave too. I will thank PLD for being fair in allowing us on their site and we are well aware we are in the minority posting here. That only makes it easy for you all to gang bang and hardly makes your comments correct.

          • DaveH

            Gee, I wonder why people like Eddie would be in a minority on this site. Could it have anything to do with Personal Liberty, which Eddie and his Liberal cohorts hold in contempt?
            Have you gotten enough negative attention today, Eddie? Enough to satisfy your craving for it?
            Thank you for posting, Eddie, so the casual readers can see what Liberals are made of.

          • eddie47d

            Afraid of the truth Dave? Sure seems to be. I’m not so bring it on if you have any!

        • http://naver sook young

          You mean like your immaturity, ignorance, and childish disdain? We are not going anywhere. In fact our hometown Tea Party group has increased in size 300%. Thank you.

          Sook Young
          Wife of the Samurai

          • bob wire

            Disdain is not commonly associated with children. To harbor disdain you usually know exactly what and why. But Ignorance and immaturity? Sure! You bet.

          • eddie47d

            Who says you have to go anywhere Sook. Name names of those who are telling you to do so? I have been told to leave this site by at least one “immature” poster who doesn’t value a difference of opinion. You apparently want it your way or no way.

          • Jana

            eddie, That was rude. You put words in her mouth. She never said that.

          • http://naver sook young

            Don’t you lie about me Eddie! I cannot help what other people write or post, but that doesn’t mean I have to accept it as fact. He always says tea baggers and tea bagging, which are words used towards the gay community. Sorry, but we are not gay nor are we crazy. We just want this country to get back to our Christian founding and go by the Constitution. If you can’t understand that Eddie, then I really feel sorry for you. Thank you.

            Sook Young
            Wife of the Samurai

    • Nadzieja Batki

      Go back and reread what you have posted. Nothing makes sense.

      • Jana

        Nadzieja,
        Thats normal for NOT Thinking About.

      • Thinking About

        I do not go to rallies with dumb misspelled signs and if you have problems in comprehension don’t blame a teacher.

        • http://?? Joe H.

          Typical prog retort, don’t blame a teacher if you aren’t taught well enough to comprehend, don’t blame a teacher if you can’t read and graduated, don’t blame a teacher if you can’t spell yet graduated. don’t blame a teacher if 45% of her/his class flunks! Hey, don’t worry, he can play Basket ball or football!!! Just not quite good enough to make the pros. Oh well, he can still dig ditches. What? he still has to read directions?? Oh well, there’s always WELFARE! However, DO NOT MAKE THE TEACHERS PAY PERFORMANCE BASED!!!

          • Dan az

            Joe
            I think he is a son of a teacher man.

        • http://naver sook young

          More ignorance and childishness and not even worth my time to respond. Thank you.

          Sook Young
          Wife of the Samurai

    • http://naver sook young

      Why do you always mention tea bagging? Isn’t that a term used for gays? Are you coming out of the closet? Thank you.

      Sook Young
      Wife of the Samurai

      Good job Jana!

    • Lost in Paradise

      You sound as though you may be totally dillusional at best. Maybe you are being good,so they allow you to use the computor from time to time. Can you tell us what institution you are in? We can send you some flowers.

  • john

    conservative = terrorist

    • Dagney

      LOL, nice to know the lefties in this country know WHO is the REAL enemy of the United States! Yes, Constitution, Flag-loving CONSERVATIVES!!! That’s who! Not the animals who lop off the heads of young journalists, Daniel Pearl and Nicholas Berg on video camera for all to see. No, and certainly not the scumbags who drove passenger-filled airliners into the twin towers, the Pentagon, and a lonely field in Pennsylvania. No, the REAL terrorists are people who want our government to stop wasting OUR money! Yeah, THOSE are the REAL enemies of this country. You got it. We are all convinced, now! NOT!

      • 45caliber

        Of course they knew the REAL enemies! After all, conservatives are raising Cain about their agendas. Conservatives are trying to take away their lucrative jobs. Conservates want to stop them using government money to buy votes.

        So some people in a country half way around the world do kill a few soldiers. We have too many soldiers anyway and they aren’t the children of the libs. They taught their children to avoid defending the country. And these people we call terrorists aren’t threatening them at all. Only the conservatives do.

    • JeffH

      john, first, you need to understand the meaning…

      ter·ror·ist [ter-er-ist] noun
      1. a person, usually a member of a group, who uses or advocates terrorism.

      2. a person who terrorizes or frightens others.

      The fearmongering expressed by the progressives and the POTUS fits in that realm…

      Obama comments about the push for Obamacare…

      “If we don’t pass it, here’s the guarantee”:

      “Premiums will go up, employers are going to load up more costs on you. Potentially employers are going to drop your coverage because they just can’t afford massive increase of 25 to 30% in terms of the cost to provide your health care.”

      “The federal government will go bankrupt because Medicare and Medicaid are on a trajectory that is unsustainable and this bill actually provides us the best chance to bend the curve on government expenditures of Medicare and Medicaid”.

      “If you don’t do this, nobody argues with the fact that cost of Medicare is going to consume the entire federal government”

      Then there is Michelle Malkins accurate assessment…
      The progressive “climate of hate:” An illustrated primer, 2000-2010

      They need to be reminded. You need to be reminded.

      Confront them. Don’t be cowed into silence.

      And don’t let the media whitewash the sins of the hypocritical Left in their naked attempt to suppress the law-abiding, constitutionally-protected, peaceful, vigorous political speech of the Right.

      They want to play tu quo que in the middle of a national tragedy? They asked for it. They got it.
      The progressive climate of hate: A comprehensive illustrated primer in 8 parts:

      I. PALIN HATE
      II. BUSH HATE
      III. MISC. TEA PARTY/GOP/ANTI-TRADITIONAL MARRIAGE HATE
      IV. ANTI-CONSERVATIVE FEMALE HATE
      V. LEFT-WING MOB HATE — campus, anti-war radicals, ACORN, eco-extremists, & unions
      VI. OPEN-BORDERS HATE
      VII. ANTI-MILITARY HATE
      VIII. HATE: CRIMES — the ever-growing Unhinged Mugshot Collection
      http://michellemalkin.com/2011/01/10/the-progressive-climate-of-hate-an-illustrated-primer-2000-2010/

      • Jana

        Obama = terrorist.

        Lie-berals = terrorist.

        John = Lie-beral

        • JeffH

          B-I-N-G-O! :)

        • eddie47d

          Jana CON =servatives! Lie- berals What is your real point? Except to be unflattering!

          • Jana

            ? ? ?
            You are not making any sense here.

          • eddie47d

            Look at your 1:01 post. Apparently you have no clue in what you said.

          • Jana

            eddie,
            I am fully aware of what I said, but I just don’t get your post.

      • http://marcum1@wildblue.net coal miner

        JeffH,
        Hey everybody.Lets give Jeff a standing ovation,in his expertise in Lexography. He is a real expert on about every thing,just ask him.Ha ha ha ha

        • Jana

          I applaud JeffH. He is an expert. Those of you who can’t recognize the truth stand up. Oh, ha ha you just did.

          • JeffH

            Jana, thanks…I’m far from an expert, but I, like so many, through a lot of searching and listening do recognize truth… :)

        • JeffH

          cm, before making a comment you should first understand the definition of lexicography:

          Definition of LEXICOGRAPHY

          1: the editing or making of a dictionary
          2: the principles and practices of dictionary making

          Unfortunately, I do neither… :)

        • http://naver sook young

          Have we taken our meds today? Thank you.

          Sook Young
          Wife of the Samurai

      • eddie47d

        You take your BS to new heights Jeff. The fear mongering on this site would fit the bill…err definition. Malkin has always overflowed with despicable lies and how about grumpy ol’ Cheney! Those are tough acts to follow and you want to smack down Matthews. Get a gripe.

        • Jana

          eddie,
          You and your ‘side’ sure seem to know all about fear mongering. The lefist Democracts have learned that one well.

        • JeffH

          eddie, don’t blame others(like good liberals do)for your shortcomings and inability to deal with reality…still standing up for Matthews I see…

          How about this one from your new found buddy you feel compelled to defend…The president of the United States — also known as the commander in chief — goes to the U.S. Military Academy at West Point to deliver an address to the nation and MSNBC’s Chris Matthews refers to it as visting the “enemy camp.”

          As you have been asked too many times to count…point out the lies or will you just continue on with your tried and true deleriously rhetorical responses while ducking and dodging for cover.

          • http://?? Joe H.

            JeffH,
            sounds to me like you already have a dam good gripe and don’t need to get one!!!

        • Nadzieja Batki

          You must troll thru conservative sites as part of your job. And if that is the case you are wasting money from taxpayers. For what other reason would you keep bringing up conservative writers and commentators and use them as examples of your hate.

        • eddie47d

          Because Coulter,Malkin,Sowell,Limbaugh,Beck have spread their hate for years. Yes I have listened or read about each of those mentioned. Sowell has got to be in his 70′s by now since I read his nonsense in the 70′s.

          • http://marcum1@wildblue.net coal miner

            eddie47d
            USA is losing its credit rating,people blame congress,mostly the Republicans and the so called Tea Party nuts.

            http://www.salon.com/wires/allwires/2011/08/05/D9OU8OIG0_us_us_debt_rating/index.html

          • JeffH

            coal miner, yeah, the Tea Party has spent our country to near bankruptcy and an S&P AA downgrade…don’t ya love it when a plan comes together…really I do!

          • Jana

            coal miner,
            I blame the President. He is the one who has had all of this time to create a budget. I have noticed the new party of NO is the Democrats.
            Harry Reid, NO I will not let this bill be voted on in the senate. Pres. O, NO I don’t want the budget even looking like it might be balanced. and NO, I don’t have a plan and I don’t like yours.
            Sounds like its all on the Democrats and the Rhinos this time.
            Oh yes, then he goes out and celebrates his birthday with his rich cronies. Wow what a hypocrite.

            In fact, most of the people I have heard are blaming Obama.

          • http://marcum1@wildblue.net coal miner

            JeffH,

            My advice to you.

            It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to open one’s mouth and remove all doubt.
            Abraham Lincoln: Ha Ha Ha

          • http://marcum1@wildblue.net coal miner

            eddie47d
            Don’t forget their ignorant silly quotes.Bird brain Coulter is one example.

            There is a growing body of evidence that radiation in excess of what the government says are the minimum amounts we should be exposed to are actually good for you and reduce cases of cancer.” -Ann Coulter, on fears over the fallout from Japan’s nuclear crisis, Bill O’Reilly interview, March 18, 2011

          • JeffH

            cm, it’s nice to see you cozy up to eddie…you both deserve some sort of reinforcement. I’d have say you both are like two peas in a pod.

          • JeffH

            cm, as for your advice, naw, I’ll decline.

            Before a man speaks it is always safe to assume that he is a fool. After he speaks, it is seldom necessary to assume it.
            H. L. Mencken

          • http://naver samurai

            Care to take some of your own advice coal dungger or are you going to keep ranting? FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

            P.S. As my grandmother used to say in school:

            “Never pass up a good chance to shut up.”

            I suggest that you listen to her advice. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

          • http://marcum1@wildblue.net coal miner

            eddie47d

            CROOK AND LIARS:BLOG

            QUOTE ON SOCIALISM AND fASCISM.
            Beck: So let me start with that question: Are we still a capitalist country?

            Sowell: Oh, heavens, partially. We’re not a socialist country, because the socialists believe in government ownership of the means of production. But the fascists believe that the government should have private ownership, and the politicians should tell the people how to run their businesses. So that’s the route we seem to be going.

          • http://marcum1@wildblue.net coal miner

            eddie47d

            You will find this interesting.: Definitions of Facism and Socialism.
            http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Fascism/Fascism_def_char_hx.html

        • http://naver sook young

          You talk about “BS”, but yet you haven’t posted any sources or facts. If you do, you would have more credibility. Thank you.

          Sook Young
          Wife of the Samurai

          • eddie47d

            Yes Sook you would be more credible if you at least posted ONE fact. All I am seeing is nonsensical crabby comments from you. Produce some relevant knowledge for a change.

          • JeffH

            eddie says, “Yes Sook you would be more credible if you at least posted ONE fact. All I am seeing is nonsensical crabby comments from you. Produce some relevant knowledge for a change.”

            “All I am seeing is nonsensical crabby comments from you. Produce some relevant knowledge for a change.”???

            C’mon eddie, even you can’t be that much of a hypocrit? Forgot…a simple case of the pot calling the kettle…take a peek in the hypocrits mirror once in awhile.

    • Laura

      2+2 is not 5
      Grow up and stop trying to create your own reality, you cannot fake reality, give it up you sound absolutely ridiculous.

      You seriously need to comprehend the law of identity
      A is A.

    • http://naver sook young

      Liberal = coward
      Progressive = traitor
      John = see a psychiatrist

      Thank you
      Wife of the Samurai

  • Former Walmart person

    I wish things would hurry up and collapse. I can’t wait for some big event to really cement in people’s minds that government and major corporations were enemy number 1 all along. Of course by that point, we may all be herded into FEMA camps, but enough people have to be awake to prevent that from happening. I have to beleive that our military would split and fight civil war 2 against the military that would follow orders to throw live babies into incinerators.

    • 101stRECON68

      At first read, I could only say “WOW”, that’s a little over the top. But FWP has a valid point. WE are already being herded incrementally towards complete domination and control. The steps are so small as to be almost imperceptible but they are there nonetheless. A little here, a little there until one day you open your eyes and say “What the hell happened?”. At what point will Americans open their eyes and say NO MORE? Like sheep being led to the slaughter pen, will we start bleating only after we get to the holding pen? I don’t consider myself a doomsdayer at all, but I have a real sick feeling about what’s just over the horizon in this country. People like FWP are merely beating the drum trying to grab people’s attention to wake them from their stupor. Over the top???I think not.

  • Former Walmart person

    Lets hope that the American people won’t be as balless as the German people who just went along with Hitler. Who just covered their noses while Jews burned.

    People, if you show timidness under a dictatorship, just remember that you would be called to answer for your crimes in front of God. God is who you should truly fear.

  • Ray

    Why give an insignificant news pundit like Chris Matthews any credit? He is nothing more than a liberal lackey who has only one narrow minded point of view and his show resembles nothing more than a circus sideshow. He is a loud mouth that spouts less than intelligent verbal noise through the hole in his face. He and his network MSNBC is a joke whose airtime should not be taken seriously.

    • Song

      Very good point Ray

    • 45caliber

      Ray:

      Chris Mathews is NOT a news pundit; he is an actor. And he gets his money for his harsh reteoric. Like many comedians, he gets his speels from the real news but that doesn’t make what he says true. The stuffed shirts (or dresses) on his show are simply there as an audience.

      • Karolyn

        Sounds like you could be describing Rush or Glen or any number of talking heads.

        • Jana

          Karolyn,
          Especially Obama. He is the best actor of them all. He is acting like a President. Oh phooey, no he isn’t. Never mind.

          I guess we could say he is acting like the worst man for the job. Now that’s more like it. But, he isn’t acting moan groan. He actually is the worst man for the job.

          • http://naver sook young

            Let’s please not forget Hillary, Barbara, Nancy, Harry, and many others out there. Thank you.

            Sook Young
            Wife of the Samurai

  • john

    Chris Matthews is a lot like. Glen Beck, Rush, Ann Colter ,hannity,and all the other right wing dummy’s

    • Larry

      John boy, I’ll bet you’ve never listened to or read Glenn, Rush, Ann, Sean, or any other conservative. That would strain the dim little leftist pile of sawdust in your skull that passes for a brain, and that just wouldn’t do would it.

      Matthews is a screeching leftist moron who is a disciple of Alinsky, and likely Marx and Lenin too. Just what this country needs.

      • Jana

        Larry,
        john is one of thse kooks that I have been talking about. Thanks to denniso for labeling them for me.

        • Laura

          John is still in toilet training, as are all male liberals, they are not ‘men’ far from it, only they are mindless little screeching beings similar to little chihuahua’s an an acid trip, still yearning to have their pants pulled down so their mommies can wipe their asses off and still crying needing that nose wiped off as well.

          (Notice the recent Geico commercial with the 3 panty-waisted males playing with their cell phones. That is the epitome of a male liberal, incapable of anything but incessant whining…imagine if America was ever invaded they would be slaughtered in an instant.)

          • Karolyn

            You were obviously not in on the discussion of civil discourse! Are you in high school?

          • Jana

            Karolyn,
            Reread Larry’s post. Talk about civil discourse. He doesn’t have any.

          • eddie47d

            You sure are doing alot of whining Laura for someone who doesn’t like whining. What Gives?? You have got to be one sick minded person to have even an inkling of respect for Ann Coulter. There you have one very tall yapping chihuahua.She is a butt mean,nasty,arrogant sideshow for hateful “humans”. Are you in that camp?

      • Nadzieja Batki

        Someone like Chris Matthews may be considered a true believer since Liberalism, Communism, Socialism may be classified as religions.

    • http://naver sook young

      It’s better than being a communist, socialist, or looney liberal. Thank you.

      Sook Young
      Wife of the Samurai

  • 45caliber

    The Demos actually believe that anyone who disagrees with them is the moral equivalent to the terrorists. After all, they have the only solution and no one else is supposed to disagree with that. Besides, the conservatives are their real enemies, not some terrorists in a country half way around the world who are simply killing our soldiers. Since it isn’t their sons and daughters over there, why should they be conserned? It’s the conservatives who want to kick them out of office and take away their jobs.

    • Dan az

      45
      (After all, they have the only solution and no one else is supposed to disagree with that. )And look at were that got us!

    • bob wire

      “The Demos actually believe that anyone who disagrees with them is the moral equivalent to the terrorists. After all, they have the only solution and no one else is supposed to disagree with that.”

      That’s simply not so, ~ but I do understand why you think it.

      For one thing, there is more then just one kind of democrat while you speak in the singular.

      The left media has been parroting your belief, your statement ~for over a week now, ~ this is true!

      So tell me 45, is it your belief or is it theirs? help me out here. Am I the one confused or is it you?

      When did you give them the right to think for you?

  • Melody

    While Gifford’s return was wonderful…. I felt she shouldn’t of been allowed to vote on this issue….She didn’t study the issue from what I know, nor do I know she understood what she was voting for….. However…. she has an excuse…. everyone else…..what is your excuse???? This was a waste of time, energy, and will do nothing to solve the problem of spending and debt. NOTHING.

    • Jana

      Melody.
      You are so very right. Boehner blew it. I noticed the Democrats ACTING like they were so dissatisfied with this bill, but I know they were laughing behind closed doors.
      Something else to ignore and do it their way.

  • Larry Owens

    Our so called political leaders (laughing under my breath) and the BIG government machine/departments are like a bunch of alcoholics but in their case they are addicted to spending money like there is no end to it or they just don’t care or give a crap about the country and the American people, after all they have all their Good benefits and make lots of money and plenty of deals under the table to make more money.

    So that leaves “We the People” ignored and they know they have us Fooled. Yep they have just “Kicked the Can” down the road again nothing has changed and they act like they did such a wonderful job in getting the debt deal done at the last minute.

    What is it going to take to Change or take this country from a bunch of money hungry Thieves? The crap has to hit the fan eventually and what will “We the people” do?

    • Nadzieja Batki

      Nice try. What you wrote is a lot of barnyard refuse. It is not the government’s job to “take care” of the American people. The government has designated functions and it is not to be anybody’s mommy and daddy and their nanny.

      • JeffH

        Nadzieja, you might want to re-read Larry’s post…I’d go out on a limb and say he probably agrees with the rest of your post

        • Nadzieja Batki

          JeffH. I would rather have an impersonal government that did not “care” because that would mean no meddling in the lives of citizens in any shape or form or manner. It is this phony caring(altruism) which has choked the life out of its citizens,economy,etc..

          • JeffH

            I agree…:)

          • JeffH

            oops… :)

          • bob wire

            Well? the first part of your wish you got, one out of two is not so bad.

  • bob wire

    “I’m sure I’m not the only one. This is their policy at the Huffington Post. They go through every single comment to make sure they are not disagreed with. It’s the liberal mindset. As least on conservative sites, all comments are allowed. Disagreeing or not.”

    You were not booted Crystal, ~ they simply refused to post your posting.

    It’s true , you can’t say anything that you want to on Huff post.

    You can’t say “Baggers” ~ they will kick it back ~ you can’t use naughty words.

    But ideology or party affiliation was not why you were denied what ever it was that you posted.

    Only you know what it was.

    They kick some of my posting back as well ~

    Huff Post is a HUGE site ~ it’s like going to a huge church of 2000 after attending church with a membership 75 in comparison.

    I like it here better, ~ but I do attend both ~ I can’t find very many to fight with me there. ~ and too, ~ they don’t do much fighting. Mostly a bunch of agreeing like so many here seem to enjoy doing ~ it’s so boring ~ book a cruise on the Love Boat, get a room, for crying out loud.

    I enjoy lively debate and to mix it up.

    • bob wire

      Try posting on the BBC forum if you think Huff Post in intolerant.

      You are required to project a “stiff upper lip” and craft words in statesman fashion.

      It’s fun, try it.

      • independant thinker

        I have never had trouble posting on BBC and I sure ain’t got no British “stiff upper lip” and generaly do not express myself in a statesman like manner.

    • Karolyn

      Good points, bob.

  • Alex

    But Conservatives ARE terrorists, dummy.

    Also–no matter how you try to shape it—Breivik IS a Right Wing Christian—maybe not YOUR type, but you still own him and his horror.

    • DaveH

      Here are the worst purges in history. Notice that the top 3 are by Socialists:
      http://www.scaruffi.com/politics/dictat.html

      Ah, yes, you have to love the “caring” Progressives.

    • http://naver sook young

      Hitler, Stalin, and Mao were atheists. So please tell me what does their political party have to do with their personal ideals and beliefs? Thank you.

      Sook Young
      Wife of the Samurai

      • http://marcum1@wildblue.net coal miner

        sook young
        WRONG. Stalin and Mao were atheist.Hitler was in no shape or form an atheist.

        If we really want the world’s spiritual leaders to help us out,
        then we need to see the Pope and the Dalai Lama agree to change costumes for one week,
        because if we can’t see that degree of play and absurdity then they have nothing to say…

        (Bradford Keeney)

        Adolf Hitler, Richard Dawkins, The Pope And Atheism

        Tuesday, 21. September 2010

        Richard Dawkins explains Pope Ratzinger‘s contortions regarding Adolf Hitler an atheist.

        British popular science author, ethologist and evolutionary biologist Richard Dawkins points out that Adolf Hitler was a Roman Catholic – for Hitler never renounced his baptismal Catholicism.

        Was Adolf Hitler an atheist?
        In any case, Hitler certainly was not an atheist. In 1933 he claimed to have “stamped atheism out”, having banned most of Germany’s atheist organizations, including the German Freethinkers League whose building was then turned into an information bureau for church affairs.

        Here’s part of a telltale speech Hitler made in Munich, the heart of Catholic Bavaria, in 1922:

        My feeling as a Christian points me to my Lord and Saviour as a fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded by a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and summoned men to fight against them and who – God’s truth! – was greatest not as a sufferer but as a fighter. In boundless love as a Christian and as a man I read through the passage which tells us how the Lord at last rose in His might and seized the scourge to drive out of the Temple the brood of vipers and adders. How terrific was his fight against the Jewish poison. Today, after two thousand years, with deepest emotion I recognize more profoundly than ever before the fact that it was for this that He had to shed his blood upon the Cross.

        (Adolf Hitler – Munich in 1922)

        • http://naver sook young

          Now we both know that people say anything to get elected. Case in point, when Obama was campaining he said that he was a Christian. After he was elected, he claimed to be a muslim. He also admitted he was a muslim on national TV during a nationally televised interview, but the host reminded him of saying Christian and he changed what he said. Even you must suely know these things. Hitler was never mentioned as attending mass after leaving home in his middle school years. Just read Mein Kampf and not some liberal leaning site or paper. Thank you.

          Sook Young
          Wife of the Samurai

          P.S. Sorry, I didn’t answer your prior posting. 하나님과 국가 대 한 doesn’t mean God and country in one, it means God and country are one.
          In other words, for God and country.

          • JeffH

            Thanks sook, that is how it was translated through my Bing translator also.

          • http://naver sook young

            Thank you Jeff H. Have a good weekend!

            Sook Young
            Wife of the Samurai

        • independant thinker

          While Hitler was raised Catholic the closest thing to a religion he had by 1936 was worship of himself. It was mentioned that he crushed the athiest groups but you forgot to mention he also crushed the Catholic and Protestant groups.

  • john

    does any one know if she has had a mental evaluation. If she has it should have to be made public. I know it sounds horabale but would you let her drive your kids to the movies? Her vote counts on the wefair of the united states of america . WE need to know she is sound.

    • libertytrain

      I’m sorry I can’t resist this – you believe that Congress and the Senate are of sound mind? I think I have far more confidence in Ms. Gifford.

      • JeffH

        :) What else could be said!

        • Jana

          Libertytrain,
          Good one ;0

          • Jana

            I wondered if a 0 would come out as a laugh??? :)

          • bob wire

            seems you found a happy face ! I had a tool board once, don’t know were it went too. ~ Gone!

            I can’t start a posting and then go browse for research and return without losing my work anymore, ~there was a time when I could . ~

            I believe in cleaning up and deleting files on my hard drive I deleted some cookies that assist this function.

            Most of my post are off the cuff for that reason. Otherwise, I have to use a work sheet draft and do a lot of copy and paste to create a posting with documented support.

            ☺ = (alt 1) ☻ = (alt 2) ♥ = (alt 3) ♦ ♣ ♠ • ◘ ○ ○ = (alt 9)

            I think that I try this once ~ and it didn’t post as I see it on my screen .

            When has life ever been fair? It’s more about hardships triumph, defeat and lessons learned.

          • libertytrain

            Jana, maybe it was the semi-colon that led you astray on that attempt.

      • libertytrain

        Jana, would you let say Reid or Pelosi or any of them drive your kids to school, I mean really, would you feel comfortable -

        • Jana

          libertytrain,
          NEVER. Not that I think they would hurt them physically, but just the thought of being around them as really distorted as they are YUCK and then subject my children to them? NO WAY.
          Besides for me to let my children ride with anyone I have to know them first, and I don’t even want to meet these people. :)

          • libertytrain

            Maybe the politicians in our early lives were jerks as well, I don’t know, but I recall Sen. Proxmire always being at the malls to meet his constituents, call his office and he would help you or answer your question. I don’t know or care about his personal life, but I think I would have let him drive my kids. I have met many Senators and Congressmen in my life, even drove or flew with some on private planes, and he’s the only one I felt comfortable with and I didn’t know the man personally.

    • Thinking About

      Who are you referring to being of sound mind. There are some sick people in this world. Think Gabby Giffords does not understand about raising the debt ceiling means to the well being of the USA. There is so very much to understanding the brain and it’s functions even the experts are still learning. Don’t even go there on Gabby.

    • http://naver sook young

      Actually it is called a psychological evaluation and not a mental evaluation. Since you are concerned about someone’s mental health, can you do the same thing for yourself and post it on this site for the rest of us to view? Thank you.

      Sook Young
      Wife of the Samurai

  • Wlmitch1

    A Litany of Grievances Against the Statist Politicians and the Radical Left

    by William L. Mitchell

    August 04, 2011

    Here is some history, along with a litany of legitimate grievances against the Marxists, Globalists, Statists, and RINOs (Republicans-In-Name-Only) in power today, and the radical Leftists who are destroying our Nation, our Liberty, and our way of life. The year was 1620 when the Pilgrims landed on Plymouth Rock. From 1775 to 1783, our Founding Fathers FOUGHT AND WON A REVOLUTION to banish tyranny from our shores, and successfully established the United States of America as a Constitutional Republic. But BECAUSE of the deeds the Marxists, Globalists, Statists, and RINOs in power do today, the rock has been landed on US! All of the promise of equality, tolerance, brotherhood, utopia, and the egalitarian gifts, which the Marxists speak so beautifully about, is NOT intended for We The People. Their words are a LIE! Their evil, gutter ideology has brought on the vicious, ghastly disarmament, rape, torture, slaughter, and even genocide, of MORE THAN 150 MILLION innocent men, women, and children by red-eyed devil Fascist, Nazi, and Communist regimes, and their militant, radical Leftist thugs, all over the world in less than 100 years’ time!

    When We The People remind the Marxist, Globalist, Statist, and RINO politicians that We The People send our elected officials to Washington D.C. to work for US, WHICH WE DO, they look upon us with hubris, hostility, and unfriendliness. The Statists no longer intend for us to be Citizens, but slaves and wards of the State instead! They impose unconstitutional laws on us against our will. They unconstitutionally tax, spend, and regulate us into deep recessions, EVERY DAY of which businesses struggle to survive; and many decent, honest, hard-working Americans must work two very-low-paying jobs, or two or more part-time jobs, with few or NO benefits, just to support their families. They work from before sun-up until past sun down! From can’t see in the morning until can’t see at night! They ALMOST NEVER have a day off! And these are the Americans who are able to find jobs at all! Then the Statists take a quarter or more of what these Americans earn, in FICA, Medicare, and Federal Income taxes, and when they die, the Statists take even more of their hard-earned money in Estate Taxes! WHEN THEY DIE, they are taxed EVEN MORE! Those Marxist, Globalist, and Statist politicians, and the activist groups which support them, are intentionally trying to DESTROY America; and they do NOT try to hide it ANYMORE!

    What is it that has awakened Americans to such a degree that we now demand our country back? It is the past 50 years of the radical Leftists having taken over and bastardized the “Mainstream” News Media, the “Entertainment” industry, Public “Education”, and the “Democratic” Party. That’s a SHAME!! And it is for these 50 years, IN WHICH, they have stupefied and indoctrinated our youth, expelled God from public life, infringed on our right to keep and bear arms, consistently appeased – and even ALLIED THEMSELVES WITH – the enemies of freedom, burned our flag, mocked our war veterans, murdered our unborn, and imposed immoral and deviant lifestyles on We The People. They slander, libel, intimidate, and try to silence those of us who are TEA Party members and sympathizers, Constitutional Conservatives, and other American Patriots of ALL races and religions by falsely accusing us of being “far right” bigots, sellouts, and terrorists. They try to criminalize us for opposing THEIR criminal ideology, and telling the TRUTH! Radical Leftist, activist judges at all levels legislate from the courtroom. They do NOT INTERPRET our laws like they are SUPPOSED TO! Those Marxist, Globalist, and RINO politicians do nothing to secure our borders and deport those who have entered our country ILLEGALLY. They impose so many laws on us, with a few deeply-hidden loopholes, that it is becoming almost impossible for the average American to NOT break the law! THAT is not Liberty! IT IS OPPRESSION AND SLAVERY!

    Under Obama, Holder, Napolitano, Clinton, and Reid, the destruction of our once-great nation has accelerated drastically. They impose their deadly poison known as Political Correctness on us against our will! They have hauled a sovereign U.S. State before the U.N. Human Rights Council for enforcing our immigration laws! They appease and apologize to the Islamic terrorists who want to kill us, and the regimes which sponsor them. At our airports, travelers in full Muslim dress are given a free pass while the rest of us are treated like criminals and terrorists. They violate our First, Second, Fourth, Sixth, and Tenth Amendment Rights incessantly. They are so ARROGANT that they refuse to understand why we American Citizens are frustrated and angry! They accuse us of being ungrateful for all they do “FOR” Americans when they KNOW that they are doing their unrighteous deeds TO us! And NOW we have a “President” who ignores his Constitutional duty to protect our Nation, betrays our allies, bows and kowtows to foreign tyrants, appoints militant America-hating Marxists to his Cabinet, and then holds our Military’s paychecks and the Social Security and Medicare benefits of elderly and disabled Americans hostage, and rules by Executive Order and through “czars” whenever he does not get his way! It’s a disgrace! We must IMPEACH this lawless Obama Administration and its enablers in Congress BEFORE 2012! We The People MUST FIRE all of the Leftist, Globalist, Statist, and RINO politicians in 2012 and 2014, replace them with REAL American Patriots, and take our country back! We don’t NEED a debate! We don’t NEED a compromise! We don’t NEED Political Correctness! We need some ACTION! God save America and GOD BLESS AMERICA!

    • Thinking About

      You are right the Republican party needs to kick out RINO (tea party who are not republicans) and explain if tea party wants a party to form their own.

      • http://naver sook young

        You are correct about the RINOs, but leave the Tea Party alone. We are the ones that can save this country with God’s help. Thank you.

        Sook Young
        Wife of the Samurai

        • Thinking About

          Tea party is not Republican party leave the Republican party alone. True Republicans do not think like tea party.

          • Jana

            Thinking About,
            Thank you for not using bad language.

            You are so right. I have never gone to a TEA Party meeting, but I do align up with their ideologies. I have friends and relatives who have gone though. I will also tell you that not one of them nor even the sponsers of the meetings around here have received one red cent from any person that is supposedly supporting them.

            Yes, The Republican party has shifted to the left and the ones left behind are the TEA Party people. Therefore, what they are trying to do is get the Republican Party back to its roots.

          • http://naver sook young

            Good response Jana. I agree with you 100% and thank you.

            Sook Young
            Wife of the Samurai

            God bless all the patriots on this site and around this great country of ours. May he grant us victory over our oppressive enemies and judge them rightly.

          • bob wire

            Well, Sooky, ~ leave him/her some judging to do, ~ at the moment you seem to be leading. ☺ ♥

            You know , God is on everybody’s side, The transgressor and the transgressed. He wishes the transgressor might find his way back to the light and the transgressed comfort and healing.

            So wish part do you play today?

          • bob wire

            Jana , many Republicans shifted to the left to offer counter balance to the far right in an effort to keep the shine side up and the rubber on the road.

            They felt it necessary as do many others. It’s not a matter of what is wanted by the far right out of reach or impossible or even bad. But the speed of such change must take place in a manner that keeps collateral damage and disenfranchising down to a level that is acceptable.

            The Tea party voices no interest in such matters. In Fact, I don’t believe many have considered “all” the long lasting ramification their change offers most Americans and kitchen table issues at the speed they wish to go.

            This “let in be written, let it be done” might be okay if your are sitting down at the Pharaoh’s dinner table. But if you are in the mud pits, churning out brick, on a belly that hasn’t felt the satisfaction of being full for several weeks, rapid change could be a death sentence.

            But that say,~ radical are the catalyst to change and for that the Tea Party deserves much credit today.

            In some ways, even I am proud of their efforts.

  • Lost in Paradise

    I would like to ask Eddie, John, and JeffH what is important to them, and what direction they would like this country to take. Do you want more taxes,more government, or what exactly. Would you like to live in a dictator ship,or under communist rule?? I would really like to hear what you have to say. Be careful, honest, and no smart mouth.

    • JeffH

      I would expect the same of you LiP…I consider myself to be a conservative Tea Party supporter from California with a strong Libertarian lean. I believe in the Constitution and support a strong Constitutional Republic as our forefathers created for us. Life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness and willing to lay it all on the line to maintain those beliefs. Freedom, to me, is not to be taken lightly.

      “Experience hath shewn, that even under the best forms of government those entrusted with power have, in time, and by slow operations, perverted it into tyranny.”
      Thomas Jefferson

      That should be enough sufficient information to understand where I am coming from and

  • http://marcum1@wildblue.net coal miner

    Don’t matter who wins next years election,it will come at a heavey cost to the American people.

    “Alius hanc victoriam opprimuntur et Romani Pyrrhus.” rex Graecorum

    , “Another such victory over the Romans and we are undone.”Greek king Pyrrhus

    • http://marcum1@wildblue.net coal miner

      I meant heavy.

  • http://marcum1@wildblue.net coal miner

    Experience demands that man is the only animal which devours his own kind, for I can apply no milder term to the general prey of the rich on the poor.
    Thomas Jefferson: Well said.The rich do prey on the poor.

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