The Missed Opportunity For Medical Freedom

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The Obamacare deathcare system is a trap designed to force Americans into a socialized system of “medicine” with limited choices and limited resources that benefits only the medical industrial establishment.

Freedom of choice in healthcare matters is a natural right; and under Obamacare, your freedom to choose the method of treatment for your particular ailment will not exist. If government is controlling the money, government will decide the treatment modalities that are “approved” and, therefore, allowed.

Dr. Benjamin Rush was a Founding Father who signed the Declaration of Independence, served as Surgeon General in the Continental Army and attended the Continental Congress. He predicted:

Unless we put medical freedom into the Constitution, the time will come when medicine will organize into an undercover dictatorship to restrict the art of healing to one class of Men and deny equal privileges to others; the Constitution of the Republic should make a Special privilege for medical freedoms as well as religious freedom.

Now we are some 226 years removed from his statement’s utterance, and we see he was correct.

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Bob Livingston

founder of Personal Liberty Digest™, is an ultra-conservative American author and editor of The Bob Livingston Letter™, in circulation since 1969. Bob has devoted much of his life to research and the quest for truth on a variety of subjects. Bob specializes in health issues such as nutritional supplements and alternatives to drugs, as well as issues of privacy (both personal and financial), asset protection and the preservation of freedom.

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  • Stephine

    Amazing how the founding fathers could see what a bunch of scurvy snakes would eventually get in power. Of course this bunch that are in there now wouldn’t care what a document said as they keep proving over and over. To them the constitution is a piece of old worn out paper that doesn’t apply to todays sheeple “We the government only know what is best for them”.
    Life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. Well as we have seen over the last few years, liberty is just a word that is not practiced in this country. Amendment one allows for freedom of religion and the right of one to express, but this is not true. A student in school with LIKE MINDED others want to hold a small religious gathering it is prohibited. Hmm sound like repression of their first amendment rights. And just recently the big gun grab by the fascist government nazis. “We need to keep guns out of the hands of the people for their own safety.” [expletive deleted] clearly it is move for the few in government seize power, and they can’t do that when folks out there could start a revolution and have guns to protect themselves.

  • dan

    If you like Medicare ….premiums plus 20% of whatever we decide to cover….
    you’re gonna love buying your supplemental Obamma-Care-
    double-diamond-gold-members-only-advantage cards (for an additional charge)

    • Warrior

      Bronze, silver and gold coverage now but in very short order it will transform into “lead” and “gold” only. You people are really going to learn to appreciate that “affirmative action” provision in the “no-care” and “not- affordable” bill. Amnesty anyone?

  • 010sonny

    Teabaggers are Cruzing for a licking. Their complete oblivious knowledge of what the American People want, has been accomplished by their absorption of their own propaganda and actually believing it!
    Senator Cruz just got a slap of reality , as his cohort Teabaggers looked on in disbelief. His 21 hour propaganda rhetoric was received as an enormous waste of time. LOL even Cruzy changed his vote to yes to make it unanimous 100 to 0 . Removing all obstructions which was being furnished by a dysfunctional Tea intoxicated mob.
    The Tea mob hear the tolling of the bells dripping down through the Halls of congress. A melody of 2014 rings through their ears. Could rational intelligence leadership actually trump their fear, hate, propaganda leadership? A cold breeze swirls all about them. Their beloved party is gathering up the Tea to have another 1773 Tea Party.
    Senior rational republicans tells their ideologue minority within their ranks that they are “Fuming” with the deluge of the Tea’s nonsense of trying to change their vote from yay to nay.
    Treasury Secretary Jacob J. Lewis refocused the attention back to the issue and away from the Tea’s red herring menus. POW! Oct 17 will be the deadline for the Legislators to get their act together on the debt ceiling or shut down will be real.
    Congress is absorb in trying to get past Oct.1. At that time government will run out of money to keep their doors open for business. Senators will push forward with the spending bill and stripping the Teabaggers dysfunctional attachments and send it back to the House of the intoxicated dominated dysfunctional Teabaggers,. Giving them enough time to sober up by Monday’s midnight deadline to vote whether we keep the doors open or start closing them down.
    Today the fumbly numbly Teabaggers are considering how they will mount their next tactic. On their table is to DELAY Obamacare by a year, DENAND Keystone XL oil to be paid by the taxpayers for the subsidized oil companies. LOL they are still exhibiting little sign of sobering up. Frantic rational republicans are imploring that they sober up and send a bill without their Hostage Ransom demands scenarios. Boehner once a leader of he majority House has been reduced to just one of the herd. Senator Orrin G. Hatch, Republican of Utah sums it up “We’re getting so late here there really could be a shutdown, ! “That doesn’t help anybody.” Orin is forgetting that shutting down the government does help somebody. The 1%. Government shuts down > Credit goes down on debt> Interest Rates go up> Debt investors of the 1% and China receive Multi Billions in additional fees to fill their coffers. Increasing inequality to the 1%. Gee how could he have forgotten that?
    Sen. Barbra A. Mikulski {D} shares her point of view “They can talk for the rest of this term. They can stand there day and night. They can shut down government, and those who are colluders can stand with them. We are going to stand with the people of the United States of America.” “They can talk for the rest of this term. They can stand there day and night. They can shut down government, and those who are colluders can stand with them. We are going to stand with the people of the United States of America.”
    Cruzy wants the House Tea hooligans to keep obstructing , for a shut down even though Cruzy changed his vote does not mean that the Tea ideologue should. Sen. McCain speaking for the senior and the rational republicans denounces what these hooligans are demonstrating. Shaming of a once Grand Old Party.
    Teabaggers are Cruzing for a licking. Their complete oblivious knowledge of what the American People want, has been accomplished by their absorption of their own propaganda and actually believing it!
    Senator Cruz just got a slap of reality , as his cohort Teabaggers looked on in disbelief. His 21 hour propaganda rhetoric was received as an enormous waste of time. LOL even Cruzy changed his vote to yes to make it unanimous 100 to 0 . Removing all obstructions which was being furnished by a dysfunctional Tea intoxicated mob.
    The Tea mob hear the tolling of the bells dripping down through the Halls of congress. A melody of 2014 rings through their ears. Could rational intelligence leadership actually trump their fear, hate, propaganda leadership? A cold breeze swirls all about them. Their beloved party is gathering up the Tea to have another 1773 Tea Party.
    Senior rational republicans tells their ideologue minority within their ranks that they are “Fuming” with the deluge of the Tea’s nonsense of trying to change their vote from yay to nay.
    Treasury Secretary Jacob J. Lewis refocused the attention back to the issue and away from the Tea’s red herring menus. POW! Oct 17 will be the deadline for the Legislators to get their act together on the debt ceiling or shut down will be real.
    Congress is absorb in trying to get past Oct.1. At that time government will run out of money to keep their doors open for business. Senators will push forward with the spending bill and stripping the Teabaggers dysfunctional attachments and send it back to the House of the intoxicated dominated dysfunctional Teabaggers,. Giving them enough time to sober up by Monday’s midnight deadline to vote whether we keep the doors open or start closing them down.
    Today the fumbly numbly Teabaggers are considering how they will mount their next tactic. On their table is to DELAY Obamacare by a year, DENAND Keystone XL oil to be paid by the taxpayers for the subsidized oil companies. LOL they are still exhibiting little sign of sobering up. Frantic rational republicans are imploring that they sober up and send a bill without their Hostage Ransom demands scenarios. Boehner once a leader of he majority House has been reduced to just one of the herd. Senator Orrin G. Hatch, Republican of Utah sums it up “We’re getting so late here there really could be a shutdown, ! “That doesn’t help anybody.” Orin is forgetting that shutting down the government does help somebody. The 1%. Government shuts down > Credit goes down on debt> Interest Rates go up> Debt investors of the 1% and China receive Multi Billions in additional fees to fill their coffers. Increasing inequality to the 1%. Gee how could he have forgotten that?
    Sen. Barbra A. Mikulski {D} shares her point of view “They can talk for the rest of this term. They can stand there day and night. They can shut down government, and those who are colluders can stand with them. We are going to stand with the people of the United States of America.” “They can talk for the rest of this term. They can stand there day and night. They can shut down government, and those who are colluders can stand with them. We are going to stand with the people of the United States of America.”
    Cruzy wants the House Tea hooligans to keep obstructing , for a shut down even though Cruzy changed his vote does not mean that the Tea ideologue should. Sen. McCain speaking for the senior and the rational republicans denounces what these hooligans are demonstrating. Shaming of a once Grand Old Party.

  • Michael Shreve

    Those who sing the praises of NATIONAL healthcare have either never to examine the state of national healthcare where practiced, of have vested interest in the result.

  • 010sonny

    ….. BREAKING NEWS >>>>
    Heard the latest? Observe how Obama actually attacks the source of our inequality. Our liberty to pursue happiness is eroded with ever increasing subsidizing corporations, increasing our inequality. Republicans evades, distorts their support for subsidizing corporations at the expense of our infrastructures , education, Jobs, Health Care, etc, etc.
    President Obama is closing the inequality gap by holding the tax evaders accountable. Something the republicans have never in the history of our nation has ever done. Another first for Obama. He has been fighting this fight since 2009.
    The US authorities’ biggest success so far came in 2009 when Switzerland’s largest bank, UBS, agreed to give away some 4,450 client names and paid a $780 million settlement after admitting to selling tax-evasion services to Americans.
    In January Switzerland’s oldest private bank, Wegelin & Co, said it would close down for good after over 250 years, following its guilty plea to charges of helping prosperous Americans hide more than $1.2 billion from the Internal Revenue Service through secret accounts. Approximately a hundred Swiss banks will now entertain an open door policy in allowing the USA to have the names of those U.S. citizens that have accounts. Examining each for possible tax evasion. Banks will face fines of up to 50% of the asset value, if they corporate.
    This offer does not apply those banks already under investigation. Credit Suisse, HSBC Holdings Plc and Julius Baer Group Ltd to name the top largest banks. Several regional banks that under investigation will not receive this offer as well. The U.S. Department of Justice stated; “”The program is intended to enable every Swiss bank that is not already under criminal investigation to find a path to resolution,” “The program is intended to enable every Swiss bank that is not already under criminal investigation to find a path to resolution,”
    US Attorney General Eric Holder stated; “This program will significantly enhance the Justice Department’s ongoing efforts to aggressively pursue those who attempt to evade the law by hiding their assets outside of the United States,” Goes on to say; “In addition to strengthening our partnership with the Swiss government, the program’s requirement that Swiss banks provide detailed account information will improve our ability to bring tax dollars back to the US Treasury from across the globe,” Estimated total account value hidden in Swiss banks is $2.2 Trillion. Closing the Swiss offshore secret tax evader’s haven is a warning to all citizens that use foreign accounts, to evade taxes. They may soon find themselves in this scenario.
    Those banks that do not cooperate may take heed to U.S. Attorney General; “significant risks for individuals and banks that continue to fail to cooperate, including for those Swiss banks that facilitated US tax evasion but fail to cooperate now, for all US taxpayers who think that they can continue to hide income and assets in offshore banks, and for those advisors and others who facilitated these crimes.” “significant risks for individuals and banks that continue to fail to cooperate, including for those Swiss banks that facilitated US tax evasion but fail to cooperate now, for all US taxpayers who think that they can continue to hide income and assets in offshore banks, and for those advisors and others who facilitated these crimes.”
    More than a dozen Swiss banks are under investigation, which includes mortgage backed securities sold by the banks. Credit Suisse has already agreed to a settlement of $120 Million stating the settlement does not imply guilt of selling of risky mortgage backed bonds.
    Swiss government has been cooperating with the U.S. since May 2013.The Swiss Bankers association stated that the U.S. deal; “enables all banks in Switzerland to settle their US past quickly and conclusively and creates the necessary legal certainty.” Swiss government ordered Julius Baer to hand over, the necessary data on U.S. clients.
    Now that will take a pinch from the 1% horded loot of inequality. Raise taxes on the poor little rich boy?? Republicans Nay, Nay, Nay! http://neweconomy.net/content/wealth-inequality-america video chart USA wealth Distributions. Now you decide….

    • Robert Messmer

      It is really too bad that he gives guns to drug cartels and international terrorists. As far as Holder investigating Swiss Banks, if they have no branches here he really has no jurisdiction since they have not (apparently anyway) broken any Swiss laws. Way to go Obama, now not only are you costing American jobs, you are also costing Swiss jobs.

      • 010sonny

         
         
        Robert totally disagree with you. Obama is exercising the rights that are formatted with the ever increasing Liberal International Free Trade Markets and its effect on increasing Globalization. Fail to maintain the décor of the USA would be ignoring our competition. Exposing their abuse of Free Trade Markets, regardless of the Sovereignty, is a mandatory right to all Sovereignties to express.
        Facilitating a litigation to resolve disputes, advancing prospects for peaceful resolutions, which will be more profitable to both or more parties in dispute. War digresses as a non profiting adventure. A change from the days of old with invade, loot, destroy. And subjugate populaces to pay to the conquers some form of tax. That is now increasingly viewed as crimes against humanity and is subject to litigation.
        No its not yet perfect as it will require far more time to evolve into a global power that reins supreme amongst the sovereignties. What forces are at play is more powerful than any sovereignty or political theories. Its called the Liberal International Free Trade Markets.
        Observe its power. Brought down orthodox communism down without firing a shot. Free Trade Markets demand democratic principles in order for it to function. China and Russia are evolving towards their democratic identity.
        Just as orthodox communism fell so will poorly regulated capitalism come tumbling down as it loses its ability to compete on the Liberal International Free Trade Markets as the communist discovered.
        Obama has demonstrated, with Obamacare his allegiance to reduce the inequality favoring the 1%. Redistribution of income and wealth is a momentous priority to rein in our poorly regulated capitalism, if we are going to be serious about competing on the Liberal International Free Trade Markets.
        Observe how the inequality of 2008 and 1929 are identical to what preceded their collapses. http://neweconomy.net/content/wealth-inequality-america video chart USA wealth Distributions..
        Redistribution of that wealth and income is and has always been a democratic objective. Obama, Clinton and F.D.R. have and are accused of communism each and every time they seek to redistribute the wealth income to more sustainable secured levels. Observe Sweden as one example of many that have had no recessions and easily avoided our global meltdown without their citizens thrown into financial chaos.
        Its time for a cool, cool change. . http://neweconomy.net/content/wealth-inequality-america video chart USA wealth Distributions..
        Redistribution of that wealth and income is and has always been a democratic objective. Obama, Clinton and F.D.R. have and are accused of communism each and every time they seek to redistribute the wealth income to more sustainable secured levels. Observe Sweden as one example of many that have had no recessions and easily avoided our global meltdown without their citizens thrown into financial chaos.
        Its time for a cool, cool change. .
        Redistribution of that wealth and income is and has always been a democratic objective. Obama, Clinton and F.D.R. have and are accused of communism each and every time they seek to redistribute the wealth income to more sustainable secured levels. Observe Sweden as one example of many that have had no recessions and easily avoided our global meltdown without their citizens thrown into financial chaos.
        Its time for a cool, cool change. 

        • Robert Messmer

          And just what are the legal grounds for “redistributing” the wealth of the wealthy? Go ahead, “redistribute” Bill Gates wealth by confiscating all of it, bet the politicians get more of it than any poor folk.

          • 010sonny

            Presently redistribution has been through various taxes that support entitlement programs or the reductions of subsidies to organizations that no longer require subsidies. Example oil companies.
            As the 1% has activated various avenues for obtaining wealth from the impoverished, example rent of raw materials for their consumption at less than market cost, to be manufactured and sold at an ever increasing inflating cost back to the consumers. It may be prudent that the impoverished expand their infrastructures to aid in the dispersal of wealth and income.
            Redistribution of income and wealth assets is required. Not for motivating consumption or productivity to accelerate beyond the level of the standard consumption of the populace it serves. Stabilizing income to be in ratio to debt. Not to accelerating purchases of unnecessary necessities but to the security of humanity.
            One instrument that could be used as the vehicle to acquire a secured inequality, within the populace, would be various forms of “Royalties Distributions” to all laborers for all their past productivity and their distributions through the years. Assets increase due to laborers productivity to some organization will have a royalty fee to the laborers and their descendants. Who may be entitled to receive them with the passing of the estates, as well as the income those productivity produced.
            Yes there will always be inequality. Those most talented will obtain a higher benefit and its not for us to degrade them for it. Nor are those that obtained their talents from in infrastructure, that promotes their talents to exist, degrade the impoverished that is generated by the remaining flaws within the infrastructure.
            A Moral responsibility to humanity is required to be furnished from the impoverished and the talented to secure humanities probability of survival.
            http://neweconomy.net/content/wealth-inequality-america video chart USA wealth Distributions.. . http://neweconomy.net/content/wealth-inequality-america video chart USA wealth Distributions.. .

          • Robert Messmer

            Since the 1% got even richer under Obama than ever before, doesn’t sound like he is doing a very good job of redistribution.

          • 010sonny

            Of course you have been blinded by some corrosive Tea. You never saw how Obama has shut down the offshore accounts and are taxing the 1% hording coffers. Never heard about Obama’s “whistleblower campaign.
            Tea have only been the most dysfunctional congress in the USA’s history. That is what you support. Chaos.. In spite of this dysfunctional Tea congress he has achieved more in 5 years for redistribution of wealth from the Top to the bottom than any republican president since Theodore Roosevelt. http://www.whitehouse.gov/five-years-laterhttp://www.whitehouse.gov/five-years-later
            Who gains by shutting down the government? Not you for sure…Follow the money…as any good detective will tell you..
            Good to know all the malarkey that the Tea Nuts are spewing is all for not other then to excuse themselves from leadership abilities.
            Oct 1 2013 will open the doors for applications for Obamacare, which takes effect Jan 1 2014.
            If you are buying that red herring the republicans are offering you, you will discover it will disappear , along with your money that you paid for such a dysfunctional republican, so called “leadership.”
            Remember that Obamacare is under mandatory spending? NOT discretionary spending. Mandatory spending on Obamacare will continue regardless if the government is held hostage or not. Has nothing to do with discretionary spending. Its just another ploy by republicans to distract, evade, elude issues. Like Immigration, Budget, Gun Law Reforms, etc. etc,
            Oh with any luck if the republicans can get the shutdown they will be tickled pink. Consider; Credit of USA goes down in default = Interest rates go up on debt>= Cash flow from taxpayers fills the 1%’s coffers as they are the investors in the debt with T-Bills as is China since republicans sold them about a half trillion at a discount back in 2005 for financing their debt then.
            I’m sure you are proud to claim them as your shepherds. “RIGHT”?
            Once again the 1% are sipping their Tea with enjoyment.
            http://neweconomy.net/content/wealth-inequality- america video chart USA wealth Distributions.. Now you decide. Should we make the poor little rich,.. richer or Not?…. 2014 you decide…..
            Messmer has decided. All for the 1% and their corporatist elitist.. Do you agree with this dysfunctional ideology? 
             
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          • Robert Messmer

            On the contrary I have heard of Obama’s “whistleblower campaign”–he had Manning courtmartialed and is trying to extradite Snowden so he can be persecuted. A lot of verbiage there but little substance. You want more of the wealth? Go to work and earn it, start a business and earn it, invent something new or improve something and earn it. But to simply say we have decided you are too rich so we are going to take it away from you, is wrong.

          • 010sonny

             
            A callow reply is all you have? Typical juvenile tactic of taking extremes as your defense. Can not fathom shades of reality. Ignore what I have posted with simple gibberish only exposes your flawed reply.
            Today we have an example of another force that the 1% use to fill their coffers with your money. Something you hold yourself to be naive in its comprehension.
            A detective once told me, most crimes can be solved by following the money. Now who benefits with the government shutdown? Main Street USA? Nah don’t see that. How about; Government shuts down> Credit is threaten on the debt> Interest rates go up> Greater cost to debt.> Increasing outflow of taxpayers monies to pay the additional cost of debt. Now Who Owns a large portion of that Debt? Who invested in the debt? Largest investor is the 1% and second largest investors are the foreign investors. China being one of the largest.
            All of these investors have so much faith in our debt being paid on a profitable return ever increasing with each new calamity to the debt.
            Republicans merely propose that it is the minority Ideoloques within their party that are responsible. Exposing their leadership to be the tail that wags the dog party. Imagine this political ideology of the republicans on a National Stage? It did get you 1929 and 2008..Chaos of financing.
            http://neweconomy.net/content/wealth-inequality-america
            Now you decide. To make the richer, richer. To be or not to be. 2014 you decide.
            Oh by the way on that Obama whistle blower campaign you missed it by a mile remind next time around. Have more than can be posted on one comment on that alone. Your Foxy tabloids miss the target as usual…http://neweconomy.net/content/wealth-inequality-america
            Now you decide. To make the richer, richer. To be or not to be. 2014 you decide.
            Oh by the way on that Obama whistle blower campaign you missed it by a mile remind next time around. Have more than can be posted on one comment on that alone. Your Foxy tabloids miss the target as usual…

          • Robert Messmer

            You say Obama shut down off shore accounts, he shut down off shore oil drilling, killing American jobs and keeping us dependent on imported oil. http://nation.foxnews.com/barack-obama/2012/03/30/president-obama-shuts-down-offshore-oil-drilling-5-years

            And yes, they passed FATCA which only works as long as the foreign banks will allow.

            Shutting down the government is not a crime and we already know that Obama is the one that did it.

  • Chester

    Funny how the right keeps saying this is “Nationalized HealthCare” when it simply gets all the insurance companies (Not owned by the government) more customers. Last time I looked, all nationalized healthcare systems had exactly ONE payer, regardless of how many payees there were. Here we still have all the same old payers, not even a nationally owned company in the lot, such as was proposed in the original writings. So, like it or not, this is not even close to being nationalized health care.

    • joe1cr

      Don’t you get it , it’s not if there one insurance co. of if there are 10 co.
      The Government has no right to force anyone to buy insurance against their will or fine them if they don’t. This is just another form of the government replacing the old mob protection schemes of force extortion that was against the Rico law then and is still against the Rico law today.

      18 USC § 1951 – Interference with commerce by threats or violence
      The term “extortion” means the obtaining of property from another, with his consent, induced by wrongful use of actual or threatened force, violence, or fear, or under color of official right.

      • Chester

        Joe, you totally ignored the point I was making. Don’t care what YOU think of the law, it IS the law,. and it does NOT create any government owned monopoly, the way so many keep harping. Incidentally, do you have liability insurance on your car? That, too, is government ordered, with very nasty fines if you are caught without it. Without health insurance, you get sick, who is going to pay. Unless you have an extra ten or fifteen thousand laid back somewhere, you WILL be in a very deep hole, and most likely the taxpayers will be paying your bill.

        • joe1cr

          Chester , I have now and have always had insurance all my adult life that I paid for myself, thank you. Government is the monopoly that makes you buy or fines you if you don’t. It’s not the insurance co. doing it. Obamacare is

          just more taxpayer funded Medicaid on steroids that is taking away from the Medicare fund that seniors paid for while working. Us Ants are tired of carrying all the liberal socialist illegal immigrant Grasshoppers that the Democrats want to take care of for their votes.
          And by the way You and Obama only point is another welfare freebie .
          A liberal is someone who feels a great debt to his fellow man, which debt he proposes to pay off with your money. — G. Gordon Liddy

          • Chester

            Better go look again if you see an overblown Medicare in all this. Seems funny that all the insurance companies are so all fired hot for this to kick in when they did their best to STOP medicare before it got started.

          • joe1cr

            I see no difference in Obama’s robbing of the working middle class who paid for their Medicare, then the Great Society of L B J who paid for his liberal welfare programs by robbing the Social Security fund on the backs of middle class. I am tired of hearing about the poor,as the middle class of America is disappearing year after year.

            “You cannot help the poor by destroying the rich.
            You cannot strengthen the weak by weakening the strong.
            You cannot bring about prosperity by discouraging thrift.
            You cannot lift the wage earner up
            by pulling the wage payer down.
            You cannot further the brotherhood of man
            by inciting class hatred.
            You cannot build character and courage
            by taking away people’s initiative and independence.
            You cannot help people permanently by doing for them,
            what they could and should do for themselves.”
            Abraham Lincoln

          • Chester

            So, basically, you want the government to offer help to anyone other than the ultra wealthy and big business. If that is NOT what you expect of government, perhaps you should change your rhetoric a bit. Seems funny that all the conservatives are all for cutting programs that actually help the working class and below, while pushing for more aid to corporations. Seems like the more money someone has to play with, the more help they need from the government.

          • joe1cr

            You are twisting my words again.
            Chester either your reading comprehension is very poor or your just dummer that a sled tract !!! You misrepresent what I said. Stop twisting my words around! Listen to what I am telling you! That is not what I said!

          • Chester

            First, Joe, LBJ didn’t put Social Security funds into the general revenue pot, they were already going there through the SSA’s mandated purchase of government bonds and T-biills. All he did was let them be counted as an official part of the budget, so as to reduce the apparent deficit. I did mis-state one thing up there, in that I said you wanted the government to “offer help to anyone other than the ultra wealthy.” What I intended to say was that in your opinion, the government should only help the ultra wealthy and those corporations who had already proved they didn’t really NEED any help. In other words, again, the more money you have, the more help you should get. If that is NOT your opinion, excuse me, but that is the song I keep hearing sung by nearly any good Republican.

          • joe1cr

            POPPYCOCK Chester !!!
            President Lyndon Johnson raids the Social Security Trust Fund to wage the Vietnam War.
            In 1965, prodded by liberal president Lyndon Johnson, Congress enacted the Medicare program as part of the “Great Society.” Medicare revenues operates as part of the Social Security program and reimburses some health care providers for beneficiaries over the age of 65. A Medicaid program was established to provide health care for poor people who can not afford private health insurance. And now we need Obamacare.

            President Johnson created the ‘unified budget’ in the late 1960s to disguise the real cost of the Vietnam War. President Johnson did not want to ask for income tax increases to pay for several ambitious government programs of that era (the Vietnam War, the Great Society War on Poverty, the NASA Space Race). Putting surpluses from Social Security overwithholding “on budget” (adding them to the general operating budget of the United States Government) so the overwithholding could be used to pay for other government programs would make the federal budget appear balanced. The resulting debt to Trust Funds would be presented “off budget.”

            In 1967 President Johnson appointed a Commission on Federal Budget Concepts which in its October 1967 report proposed a unified budget to do this. Johnson submitted the first unified budget to a Democratic Congress for Fiscal Year 1969 scheduled to begin on July 1, 1968. Thus was born the practice of using Social Security Trust Fund surpluses – or “Intra-governmental Holdings of Debt” to hide the size of the overall federal deficit.

            The cost of Social Security benefits that were promised to 70 million Americans of the “baby-boom” generation exceeds $53 trillion dollars ($53,000,000,000,000). To understand the magnitude of this figure by contrast, the World Bank estimates the GDP of the planet (total economic output) for the year 2008 as $61.063 trillion. The sum total of promises made to all working age adults in the U.S population is estimated at over $106 trillion, more than one and half times the total annualized economic activity of the planet. An editorial in USA Today claims “Without action, outlays on benefit programs such as Medicare and Social Security, combined with interest on the national debt, are projected to grow so fast that they will devour all tax revenue in as soon as 20 years. That means every government department and agency, except for those that pay benefits and service the debt, could be eliminated — and Washington would still run a deficit.”

          • joe1cr

            L B J and the democrats in the 1964 put the SS funds into the general fund and paid for his Great Society and War on Poverty programs, he was socially engineering our country into a welfare state while funding a military adventure overseas. When asked by a reporter if it was fiscally prudent to fund a war effort and his social programs at the same time he replied, “Heck yeah man, we’re rich”.
            the Great Society: How it was financed.
            To find the money for his “guns and butter” programs, Johnson consolidated the federal government’s operating budget and the Social Security budget.

            As he himself put it, “Mah frens, we’ve got one pot of money oveh heah…and we’re spendin’ more than we’re takin’ in. Thass what we call it a daffacit.

            “But oveh heah, we’ve got anothuh pot of money…and there’s more goin’ in than is goin’ out. Thass what we call a surplus.

            “And if we just put the two of ‘em togethah, thar’d be as much comin’ in as was goin’ out. Thass what we call a balanced budget.”

            Thus was the vault opened up to Congressional raids and Social Security doomed the fund money .

            What was the message of the social programs that came out of LBJ’s Great Society? One of the most devestating to the family was that if an unwed woman became pregnant, moved out of the home of her parents, did not name or know who the father was, then Big Daddy in Washington would provide for all her essential needs. Ergo she no longer needed a husband or the support of her family. In fact, the more children she had out of wedlock, the more money she would receive from the government. This program was the death knell for many families, especially in the black community. Unfortunately many black men saw this as the best of all possible worlds. They could father as many children as they wanted, from multiple women, without ever having to accept the responsibility of fatherhood. Many women rejected marriage in favor of a boyfriend who could slip in the back door and not jeopardize her government check. In this dysfunctional culture why would education be important? Why seek an education only to have to compete for a good job in the market place when they could just hang around the neighborhood and have all of life’s amenities? In fact studying and getting good grades, for many blacks, became a social stigma. They were called “Uncle Toms” and accused of trying to act “white”. Many blacks who had the potential to succeed gave in to this pressure and opted for failure. After all they had the perfect excuse. Did not the NAACP and race hustlers like Jesse Jackson tell them that it was not their fault? That they were just innocent “victims” of white racism?

            This is the legacy of LBJ’s Great Society..compassion as defined by Liberalism and the following years have seen more programs added to the welfare system.
            Now we have millions of illegal immigrants’ on welfare, not to mention the housing bust of Barney Frank and Chris Dodd’s
            The liberals have killed the goose that laid the golden eggs they beat her to death with the sledgehammer of welfare all for there constituents.

  • guy r west

    hum seems we have a person here who is singing the praises of the other side which is his right But i actrualy wounder if you know Do the american people realy want or just acpt the goings on over this sorry bill just becouse some one they like says its good. tea bager hum gues s that tells me where you stand as for me hum lets see Christin American concertive liberterian mabye but diffnetly southern born and raised. and willing to stand up for what i beleave youde dang well better beleave it . And that does incloude my freedoms and beleaves Ime proud to bee Ameican born Southern Raised And Christin all by the grace of God. America isnt perfect but i dont like the direction our goverment has us headed . i strungly subjest putting actuail American history the constitution and God back in our schools Expicley when you consider most dont even know two of the four frist presidents what we were fighting for in our frist four wars . and the fact that this perioud is where a lot of us get the morails ethics and genruiail knolage we carry with us all our lives. waake up america pray for our country its leaders and our selfs for wisdom courage and strength to do whats right for our country as a hole not just our selfs.