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The Media Want To Pick A President For You Because You Aren’t Smart Enough

December 9, 2011 by  

The Media Want To Pick A President For You Because You Aren’t Smart Enough

As the first of the 2012 GOP Presidential contests draws near, Americans are being inundated by media reports, poll results and “insider” opinions about who will face President Barack Obama in the Presidential election.

Throughout the 2012 GOP Presidential Primary season a few well-defined media-driven themes have emerged: Ron Paul is a hopeless candidate and Mitt Romney is the definite front-runner.  Michele Bachmann, Rick Perry, Herman Cain and Newt Gingrich have all had a turn as the anti-Romney in the No. 2 spot. The long primary season has done well to shape each candidate’s public identity from his or her personality, rather than testing the candidates as statesmen with voting records. This tactic isn’t dangerous unless you recall a young, charismatic fellow from Chicago who promised hope and change, provided neither and stormed through his first Presidential bid as a media darling.

What has been the result of the continuous stream of news based on personality rather than policy in the 2012 GOP race? The heavily publicized accusations of sexual misconduct against Cain are a good example of the media’s ability to put the real issues on hold just long enough to alter completely the outcome of an election. Before what has been called a “high-tech lynching,” Cain consistently polled as a strong alternative to Romney as the 2012 GOP candidate. After POLITICO reported that two women had accused Cain of sexual harassment, his campaign hit a stumbling block that many people knew, at the moment the story broke, could not be overcome. Cain continued his campaign and denied, forgot and then remembered his relations with accusers. The media, thirsty for more sensational sex stories, dug up more accusers, along with an alleged 13-year extramarital affair. Cain announced last week that his campaign was on hold.

While the accusations against Cain do raise the moral eyebrows of most Americans, he was convicted and sentenced in the court of public opinion before he ever responded to the accusations. If you remember the timing, not to say that there is any similarity between the two instances, but the same timeframe that brought us news of Cain’s alleged sexual promiscuity also brought us news of the highly disgusting Jerry Sandusky child-sex abuse scandal. Again, there is absolutely no comparison between the accusations against the two men, except that Cain became the victim of the 24-hour news cycle as his involvement in a sex scandal was emblazoned across the same media that were discussing Sandusky’s alleged sexual perversions.

With Cain’s suspension of his efforts in the contest, a new No. 2 emerged to take on the media-lionized Romney. A few weeks ago, had he not become the victim of his own tongue-tied confusions, Perry may have emerged as the No. 2 candidate. But, somehow, it seems the American public just isn’t ready for a candidate who gives speeches that sometimes border on incoherent or confuses the legal voting age with the legal drinking age.

So, Americans are left, for now, with Gingrich as Romney’s media-declared No. 2. Despite the fact that it has been claimed and evidenced that Gingrich is probably the most hypocritical, flip-flopping, unethical candidate in the race, he is polling strongly.

Cain was taken apart by his scandals, it seems, because he lacks the number of “look what I did when I was a liberal for a moment” incidents that Gingrich possesses. Sitting on a loveseat with Nancy Pelosi to discuss global warming, supporting massive corporate bailouts and being paid handsomely to be a corporate lobbyist are all things that can earn a perceived “conservative” a moment in the spotlight. With the addition of those “liberal moments,” leaving a wife who is hospitalized, spending thousands of dollars on jewelry at Tiffany and Co. and having several extramarital affairs are all forgivable offenses for a family-values conservative.

Even as Cain was being flogged by the initial sex scandal, his poll numbers remained steady for a moment; but the American public does tend to tire of the reiterations of the same nasty story, and support eventually broke. Good press can hold a candidate at a steady position; bad press can create a flurry of attention that can go either way. Romney, being the most “Presidential-looking” is perceived by many “political insiders” to have the best chance against Obama, so his support stays at a steady mark. The fact that he more or less drafted Obamacare, a conservative deal-breaker, is seen as a positive by “insiders” and the media as something that will help him earn a chunk of the Obama electorate. The candidates vying for the same media coverage as Romney are tasked with not stacking themselves against conservative values or principled beliefs, but on their ability to convince part of the electorate that they have some conservative values while convincing another segment that they could immolate their conservative beliefs to become Obama 2.0 at a moment’s notice. Who better for that job than Gingrich?

As the media offer the public sound bites, short clips, scandals, and warm and fuzzy moments of all kinds to provide a cartoonish sketch of their choices for the GOP Presidential candidate, they also enlist their own army of experts to make it a little easier for the everyman.

National Journal has been a prominent voice throughout the season, and it has polled and re-polled its team of “political insiders” over the past several months to determine who it thinks the GOP Presidential candidate will — or should — be. The group of 264 political insiders includes former national party chairmen, current State party chairs, party strategists, pollsters, media consultants, lobbyists, political fundraisers, local elected officials and interest-group leaders from both the Democratic Party and the GOP.

The “insiders” have made two things remarkably clear over the past several months: They believe that Romney is the best choice for the GOP in 2012, and they don’t think that you are smart enough to pick  a candidate yourself.

The group, termed by National Journal as “members of the political class,” was asked last March: “On balance, does the public know enough about the issues facing Washington to form wise opinions about what should be done?”

More than half of the “insiders” said that Americans are too ignorant to understand issues that affect Washington, D.C., with answers like, “In this day and age of Twitter and consumer-driven demand of news, there is a surplus of information, yet a deficit of attention to the news that really matters.”

When polled both in September and again this month, the “political insiders” picked Romney to beat his GOP challenger by an overwhelming margin. In the September poll, pitting their favored against Perry, 83 percent of Democrats and 69 percent of the Republican “insiders” picked Romney. This month’s poll pits him against Gingrich and determines that 86 percent of Democrats and 83 percent of Republican “insiders” prefer Romney.

Before you consider the word of the “insiders” to be gospel, however, you must consider who these people are. Of the 264 names on the list, one on the Democratic side sticks out like a sore thumb: Janet Napolitano. The U.S. Secretary of Homeland Security and former Arizona governor is undoubtedly on the inside of the political system, but having her tell the American people who is best suited for the Republican nomination or the Presidency seems a dangerous prospect, especially as her agency continuously pushes new agendas that assault American liberties.

Another Democrat on the list is John Anzalone, the founder of Anzalone Liszt Research (ALR). A bio on his company website reads: “We’re especially proud of our role helping elect President Obama in 2008. ALR polled in seven states for the Obama general election campaign, including the critical ‘red to blue’ states of Florida, North Carolina, and Virginia – and we’re excited to be a part of the President’s 2012 re-election campaign.”

On the Republican side, the individuals’ backgrounds are seemingly no less frightening, as most of those “insiders” represent lobbying organizations and crony capitalism. One such individual is Sam Geduldig, who The Hill said in 2008 “knows how to kill legislative threats to his clients.”

So as the “insiders” are asked who they think is the best choice to beat Obama in 2012, perhaps they are hearing, “Who would make your job of assaulting liberty, lobbying politicians for corporate interests or further altering America as we know it easier after 2012 if Obama doesn’t win?”

The Washington Post, earlier this week, proclaimed that the 2012 GOP race is undeniably the year of the insider as far as candidates are concerned. Why do they claim this is? Because Americans “rarely elect” genuine outsiders but prefer career politicians that pretend to be normal folks.

Why some of the candidates are perceived to be outsiders — even though running for President surely requires a healthy connection to the political system — is evident if you consider the media’s role. National Journal’s group of “insiders” have yet to make mention of Paul, though he consistently polls in the top three among likely voters across the Nation. But most of the general public, even if they may select him in a poll, are unlikely to vote for him in primaries as long as the “insiders” say he doesn’t have a chance.

There have been no scandals reported about Paul, he has not been pointed out as a crony capitalist and his voting record and his rhetoric parallel one another. The “insiders” write him off as a kook, because his ideas and plans will derail many of theirs. As long as the media and their “insiders” are allowed to manufacture Americans’ worldview, despite the vast wealth of knowledge that is at almost everyone’s fingertips, it will be “insider” picks for President and a bright future for the American political “insider.”

Sam Rolley

Staff writer Sam Rolley began a career in journalism working for a small town newspaper while seeking a B.A. in English. After learning about many of the biases present in most modern newsrooms, Rolley became determined to find a position in journalism that would allow him to combat the unsavory image that the news industry has gained. He is dedicated to seeking the truth and exposing the lies disseminated by the mainstream media at the behest of their corporate masters, special interest groups and information gatekeepers.

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  • s c

    People who make decisions for the Republican party seem to be about as capable as someone who thinks crystal balls are an infallible way of predicting the future. It infuriates me to think that any adult who claims to speak for the Republican party can look at Reagan as someone whose record is irrelevant because insider Republicans didn’t like him before he got elected.
    To me, any conservative is better than any Republican. Republicans seem to think we should turn back the clock so we can re-live the ’50s. They also seem to feel comfy via having been programmed with a new form of pc that’s ‘on loan’ from Democrats.
    It’s time for the Republican party to get de-programmed, or those limp-wristed rump sniffers can assume that America’s conservatives will look at them as Big Tent Utopians. Republicans, either get your heads on straight, or be prepared to be Bull Moosed and left in the nearest trash can.

    • Lee Baldwin

      You are speaking about the “Entitlement Generation” SC. They all seem to believe they are owed something. The words REAL AMERICANS grew up under were, “You get what you WORK for” -nowadays these creeps that want everything, and pay for nothing want it all without paying. We have a dumb president that wants to give people that are line-jumpers everything without standing in the line.Look at the illegal alien issue for example. Thousands waiting out their applications, and the Barry SHOW wants to give amnesty to those whom NEVER APPLIED and crossed into MY COUNTRY ILLEGALLY.We have a president that is setting a VERY POOR EXAMPLE, how can we expect others to obey our laws when our own president does not?

      • Mark in LA

        What is the difference between Obama and Nest. They both are doing what the Chamber of Commerce wants and the American people do not. What is the difference between Amnesty and letting them stay and work and lower wages?

        Obama will clean Newts clock. He cannot steal any Democrat votes and independents don’t like him. I won’t vote for him.

        I’ll bet that Obama masterbates to mock campaign posters of Mitt and Newt.

        • PATRIOT 101

          60% of the republicans either “Don’t like Newt” or like someone else better!
          A very recent poll in Iowa showed RON PAUL at nearly 20 % and in that same poll found that 70% of the caucus voters either were undecided or could be swayed! I know that a very high majority of RON PAUL supporters cannot be swayed, thus the vitriol from other republicans. The determination of the RON PAUL supporters has actually begun an “Anybody but Paul” campaign from other “mainstream” candidates and pundits! How unfortunate because independents prefer RON PAUL over all other candidates!

  • http://Personalliberty Tony

    To Everyone:
    It’s obvious that Obama is going to win in a landslide. I mean when you put two pathetic Turkeys such as Newt Gangrene or Mitt Wrongley
    as top candidates, then you really don’t care if you win or lose. Sorry for the negativity but the truth is the truth. Thanks!!
    P.S. s c, you’re right. Repubs plus Americans as a whole want to go back to the 50′s and 60′s. The world has changed since then. We all have to live in the present,then prepare for the future. Thanks again!!

    • Bob in Boston

      Hi Tony,

      You are right when you say that Obama would win against Romney or Gengrich, but Ron Paul does better against Obama than either of those guys, so hope is not lost! The polls that the media uses to show how a particular candidate is doing against Obama are usually significantly manipulated to tell a particular story, but you can find accurate information out there if you look carefully. To show how Ron Paul would win against Obama in the primary, you have to look at polls that talk to “likely voters” and not “likely *republican* voters”, because Ron Paul pulls in many more independent, military, and disenchanted democrat votes than either Romney or Gengrich. In the General Election, you can’t just look at Republican voters, you have to look at the general population.
      Hopefully my Republican party voters will realize this and vote for Ron Paul in the primary so we have a chance to beat Obama – if we get Romney or Gengrich, the media will have a field day with them and it’ll be 4 more years of Obama.

      • Tim

        I would like to see RON PAUL AND RICK PERRY TEAM UP . THEY HAVE BOTH DECLARED THE SIMPLE SOLUTION TO AMERICAN ECONOMY . GET AMERICA OUT OF THE WORLD GOVERNMENT . EVEN HILLARY CLINTON TALKED ABOUT THIS DURING LAST ELECTION . MR. OBAMA HAS TOLD THE WORLD NEWS , AMERICA IS NOT EDUCATED ENOUGH TO COMPETE GLOBALLY . I CAN PROVE THAT MYSELF . MATH IS MY WORST SUBJECT . EVEN SO , I DO NOT CARE TO COMPETE GLOBALLY . AMERICAN JOBS ARE HERE IN AMERICA . MR. PAUL AND MR. PERRY BOTH WANT TO GET RID OF AMERICAN COMMERCE DEPARTMENT , WHICH CONTROLS ALL COST OF LIVING . O P E C DOES NOT SET THE GAS PRICE AT THE PUMP . AMERICAN COMMERCE DEPARTMENT SETS ALL COST OF LIVING . IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE EUROZONE OR THE ASIAN MARKETS . WHY IS OUR GOVERNMENT LEADING THE SHEEP OVER THE CLIFF . BOTH RON PAUL AND RICK PERRY HAVE DECLARED IN THE WORLD NEWS , THEIR FAITH AND SALVATION IN JESUS CHRIST . PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT INFORMED, DO NOT REMEMBER NEWT GINGRICH WROTE THE RULES WITH CONGRESS WHICH PUT AMERICA WHERE WE ARE TODAY , 3 0 YEARS AGO . MR. REAGAN SIGNED IT . IF THE MEDIA PUTS MR. ROMNEY IN THE WHITEHOUSE , THEN , WE MUST STOP COMPLAINING ABOUT MR. OBAMA BEING MUSLIM , NON CHRISTIAN . MR. ROMNEY IS NOT CHRISTIAN . I HOPE TO SEE MR. PAUL AND MR. PERRY TEAM UP . DIG A LITTLE DEEPER PEOPLE , BEFORE WE PROVE THE MEDIA SAYING WE ARE TOO STUPID TO KNOW WHAT TO DO . T i m

        • http://Personalliberty Bonnie Little

          Tim, I am with you. We are not nearly as dumb as those people wpould like to think we are. Just look what Gov. Perry has done for Texas. We have more jobs and are financially set then any other state in the union. If you look hard enough every one has some skeltons in their closet but I really believe in Gov. Perry and that he will do a great job if he is elected. At least it won’t be what we have today.

          • Old Henry

            Well Bonnie, just think how much better off TX would be if Perry had not sold you out to the crimi9nal illegals and continues to do so.

            As I understand it from Texan posts here in the past, most of the jobs “Perry created” are from federal government money.

            If Ron Paul selected Perry as his running mate Dr. Paul would probaly not see Ground Hog Day 2013 as the elites would be very anxious to have their own in the WH.

            Remember, Reagan was dispised by the Republican elites. He was elected anyway. In a matter of weks after he was sworn in what happened? Don’t believe that Jody Foster BS.

          • Rayma Dorsa

            Does any of you remember when Rick Perry talked about running he had a call to go to the EU? That concerns me,I don’t want anyone in who has any connection with the “One worlders” Newt is a member of the Council of Foreign Relations(CFR) all involved with the EU! Ron Paul doesn’t,so stick to the one that is closest to what America was founded on! Ron Paul,at least will take us back to being “Proud”of our country again.I don’t trust Rick Perry,he has done some things that were “anti-Christian” he is saying what he thinks you want to hear. It is not what he says its’ what he DOES…

          • JOHN

            Perry is a NWO ass a Rothchild puppet. He’s just more BS of a differnt color.

        • texastwin827

          That will never happen, Tim. Rick Perry is not as good as the media made him out to be, in the beginning. The economic success in Texas has nothing to do with Perry. Perry is the perfect example of a RINO.

          While it may get pretty hot, here, in the summer, Texas has basically only 2 mos of winter and the normal high’s during winter are 55-60 so jobs for outdoors are not effected. We have no state income taxes, which is another plus. ALL of our major cities have large international technology companies, in addition to our energy fields (when Obama isn’t shutting them down, that is)and other businesses. We are the 2nd largest provider of food, in the nation. Granted, this year wasn’t a good year, but many other states go through natural disasters and, like Texas will, they come back in following years. In other words, we not only have an abundance of workers (including out of staters) to fill jobs, we have an abundance of employment resources and continue to attract business.

          You may wonder why Perry has been elected 3 times….because it’s been the standard “voting for the lesser of two evils”. He defeated Bill White the former mayor of Houston, primarily because NO ONE wanted to see White turn the entire state into a sanctuary for illegals, as he did with the City of Houston.

          Perry pushed for the Trans Texas Corridor which would have allowed Mexican trucks to enter through Texas and travel as far inland as St Louis, which would have resulted in the state using eminent domain to TAKE thousands of acres of land from property owners for a 12 lane expansion of I-35 (6 northbound, 6 southbound). This would have allowed goods to bypass US ports and come in through Mexico’s. The people of Texas rebelled in large numbers and that project has been put to rest (until someone else tries it again). Same with the Gardisill vaccine. The “opt out” provision was never promoted (& was only for those whose religion prohibited it). He’s saying there was an opt out now, because it’s his only excuse. Again, Texans rebelled and it was overturned by the Texas Legislature.

          Rick Perry is a strong “crony” candidate. His falling out with George Bush was over Bush’s refusal to appoint one of his family members to a judgeship. Perry believes in “repaying” for the support he gets, to get elected.

          Ron Paul has integrity and is not “owned” by anyone…something that Perry has never had.

          • Old Henry

            TesasTwin:

            Well said! And much better than a Damned Yankee. Thank you. It is much better said when it comes from “the horses mouth” so to speak.

            “we not only have an abundance of workers (including out of staters)” – not to menton out-of-countryers…

            Maybe you and 45 should run for Govenor / Lt Govenor. “Twin 45s to clean up Texas!”

          • mickey

            Thank you and much better said than a yankee.

            I like to read posts from those who live in states where they know about the candidates. Makes a visibility the fed will never know.

            Yes, I agree, Paul needs to win. I cannot understand why Repubs like to forget “conservative” in their stance.

            The repubs should listen and get behind any candidate that takes the military, the blue/repubs, the youth, the independents. Imagine being a repub and NOT standing behind the voters’ choice.

        • Old Henry

          Perry is a globalist, Bilderberger, is pro-illegal criminals, was a big supporter of the “NAFTA Highway”, pro-forced immunisation which killed several pre-teen girls ust to name a few.

          • http://verizon.net budman

            Thank you for pointing this out and so is Obama and George Bush on that list of attendees. Perry Has been asked twice about his attendance and refuses to answer the media.
            Mr. Rolley has come up with some amazing polls which do not match all others I have seen but one should never trust polls. They can be manipulated to get the desired result.
            He seems to love Ron Paul but so do the Liberals and even the Communists who have given Paul a favorable view. Would that be because they know he would not have a snowball chance in He– at winning? Forget about what the establishment wants and do your own examination of the views of Ron Paul. I believe he is correct about the Federal Reserve and some cabinet departments but then he does not think clearly about the consequences of a nuclear Iran or denying aid to Israel if foreign aid was to be cut off. Many years in International relations tell me that trying to talk to a country that has a nut job for president and a militant cleric will get you nowhere. Iran has made it no secret their goal is to control the entire middle east and acquiring nuclear weapons would enhance that capability. Other countries in the middle east know this and one (Saudi Arabia) is building up their forces as a result. If conflict begins, the western powers, China and Russia would become involved to protect their economic interests there. You would think with all his years in Congress that he would know this and possibly why he could be perceived as dangerous much like Obama.

          • mickey

            budman, you’ve got to be kidding. Look at the map of Iran and all the surrounding countries we bombed and now have Muslim Brotherhood regimes.

            Iran is a threat to us? It is a threat to Israel and Paul wants us to get out of the way of Israel to defend itself. Why should Israel have to have US/UN approval to defend itself?

            Get real. We have been the Saudis hired guns for years. They didn’t want their blood spilled in Kuwait so they hired us.

            do you forget that Russia went bankrupt fighting in the ME? And now, we have countries bombed by the US that actually are looking forward to TRADING with Russia and China. Who or what is the fool? The ones bombing democracy or communists reaping the trade benefits?

          • Joseph

            To say the least, the Muslim Brotherhood’s political ascent is impressive. However, without the aid of some powerful forces, the Brotherhood may have never been more than a group of marginalized religious fanatics.

            The hidden hands of these powerful forces can be seen at work before World War Two with the British travel writer Freya Stark. Stark was not just a writer. She was also an agent of British intelligence. Stark was used by British intelligence to foster an alliance with the Muslim Brotherhood (Dorril 622).

            Brotherhood collaboration with Western intelligence continued with an alliance between the Brotherhood and the CIA that began around 1955.

            According to former CIA agent Miles Copeland, it was around this time that America began looking for the Muslim equivalent of Billy Graham, hoping to use such a charismatic individual to influence the Arab world. When this failed, the Agency began forging ties with the CIA (Aburish 60-61).

            What was the motive for this marriage between Western intelligence and the Muslim Brotherhood? This alliance would help the Western power elite neutralize the challenge to their hegemony coming from the secular Arab nationalist movement. Said Aburish elaborates:

            http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/Commentary/Intelligence_Muslim_Brotherhood.htm

          • Old Henry

            budman:

            Check out this video:

            http://www.brasschecktv.com/page/5887.html

          • Joseph

            Very good Henry, thanks for the link!

        • JUKEBOX

          First of all, Perry & Paul cannot team up, because it is constitutionally prohibited in that POTUS & VP have to be residents of different states. Secondly, none of the MSM have done any digging on the background of Obama, yet they giddily proclaim any negative claim about a Conservative as etched in granite, regardless of proof to the contrary. Example: Newt presented his wife with divorce papers on her death bed. Truth: She divorced him and is still alive years later, according to HER daughter.

        • Myrna

          I like Ron Paul and Michelle Bachman. The time for a successful third party is looming. Most Dems and Reps are peas in the same pod.

          • Brian

            Myrna – you are so righ,er, correct!

          • Wapitiman

            The third candidate is what got Clinton elected. The dems are praying for a third party so they can squeeze their ‘empty suit’ in without a majority vote. Wake up people!

        • johnmyr5

          Tim Right on! Rick Perry is never, I repeat never in the news in Thomasville, GA unless he stumbles. I guess the media feels “out of sight-out of mind” Where is fairness? But just wait. Newtie will be chewed up and spit out, this can make space for Rick Perry. As for his blunders, “to err is human, to forgive is devine”. COME ON RICK, AMERICA NEEDS YOU.

        • Vigilant

          Tim,

          Pardon me for saying so, but it seems pretty certain that you are a one-issue voter. Your yardstick has room only for “Christians” who are vocal about their beliefs.

          Ron Paul would be an outstanding candidate, Perry would just drag him down. Does anyone remember Dan Quayle’s famous “potatoe” gaffe? Well, Perry has made so many dufus remarks he would merely bring down the media triple-hard on him. His most recent: he thinks there are only 8 Supreme Court justices!!

          Your anti-Romney comment because he’s Mormon was absolutley out of line.

          • Vigilant

            Sorry, I meant “absolutely.”

          • http://deleted Claire

            I agree. Being a Mormom does not make Romney unelectable as far as I am concerned. He apparently values his marriage—unlike some other candidates.

      • Old Henry

        Speaking of disenchanted democrats going for Ron Paul:

        http://conservativebyte.com/2011/12/democrats-jumping-ship/

      • http://Personalliberty Tony

        Hey Bob in Boston:
        Thanks for your note, and you’re right in essence about Ron Paul being an excellent candidate. The problem is the GOP establishment won’t give him a chance. They’ll do the same thing to him that was done to him in 2008. You see what we ended up with as a candidate, John Mccannot. You,also, observed what was done to Herman Cain recently. That’s how he was chase away by very filmsy evidence. Actually, a great ticket would of been Cain/Paul but it was prevented.
        What’s going to happen, unfortunately, it will be a Gangrene/Wrongly ticket, which will guarantee Obama another 4 years. Thanks!!

        • Old Henry

          Well Tony, the Republican establishment would nto give Reagan a chance either and he pulled it off. However, tehre was then that small matter of March 30, 1981….

      • Millicent

        Ron Paul? You must be kidding. I was embarassed for him when Huckabee asked him about what amendment ought to be changed or eliminated in the Constitution. He comes up with a ridiculous comment about Prohibition. Hello, that’s been repealed a long time ago. He is a broken record and is a joke. He will be gone soon and thank goodnes. Newt Gingrich is not perfect, but he will wipe the floor with the Kenyan in a debate. Of course all you Paul supporters will either do a write in or just not vote. Real Americans helping put a Communist back in office.

        • Bleh

          Newt won’t survive the Obama war machine, he has to much baggage and to many flip flops. Supporting Newt against Obama will be like supporting Kerry against Bush. Flip flopper are destined to lose when you know where the incumbent stands…

        • JUKEBOX

          Newt is probably the only to ask Obama about his “LAW CAREER”, and how many cases he ever tried in open court, ANSWER: ZERO! Alan Keyes tried to tell people what a fraud Obama was during their Senatorial bid, but he was dismissed by the MSM as an “UNCLE TOM” carpetbagger. Obama could not compete with either Alan Keyes or Herman Cain in a “FAIR” heads up confrontation.

          • Old Henry

            JUKEBOX:

            It would depend on how fast the teleprompter operator could type the rebutals.

        • mickey

          Prohibition is not gone. What has the cost of the “war on drugs” given us other than to keep the populace off cigarettes to a great deal of the populace dependent on drugs–legal or illegal? How many people do you know that aren’t taking drugs of some sort?

          Funny how posters want to compare who can debate obama and win. If the Constitution can’t win against obama, it is as obama says (and Bush)–worthless.

          Please check RPs websites and understand more about him. There is a reason he is up front without all the big pacs. People are listening to him and when they do, they like him.

          • JUKEBOX

            Unfortunately, the Constitution lost to Obama in November, 2008 and before, when no one bothered to thoroughly check him out , even though Alan Keyes tried to tell the world what a fraud he was.

        • Jodee

          Thank you very much!! Ron Paul is NOT POTUS material, and will only serve to distract from pulling together for the Republican nominee! The good news/bad news is that there is too much independence of thought amoung all of us who are considered “conservative”! WE NEED TO GET OUR ACT TOGETHER, or we’re ALL going DOWN!!

          • Old Henry

            Jodee:

            What exactly is “POTUS material”??

            It certainly IS NOT Little Barry.

          • newspooner

            The Republican Party , as a whole , has been very stupid for the past 83 years. The only time they offered a good candidate who was not controlled by the Establishment (Barry Goldwater in 1964), the Trotskyites in the Party did their best to make sure that he would not win. Lately, they have been offering only “the lesser of two evils” as presidential candidates, and the slide into slavery continues. That strategy just doesn’t work.

            Now they have a chance to give us a nominee who is 100% clean, with a 100% correct voting record in Congress, in great health, and considered by even his political opponents to be the most honest politician in America. What more could we ask for???

            The time is NOW! This might be our last good chance to put the brakes on the destruction of liberty. And if you don’t know which candidate I am talking about, then you aren’ knowledgeable enough and wold be more patriotic if you don’t vote.

        • APN

          Millicent, I agree, Newt would slaughter the little dumb kid currently in the WH. His teleprompter would melt and run down into his shoes.

          Not even a match and I would love to see this little self appointed King be put in his place by the elderly statesman.

      • Susan

        Interesting how often I ‘accidentally’ run across people who’ve awakened, just as I have. Corporate Anything may be in for a big surprise, if we can manage to overcome voter fraud.

        • Old Henry

          Ah yes Susan. It’s not who votes, it’s who counts the votes.

        • JUKEBOX

          I know for a fact that voter fraud has been going on for over a hundred years, because my grandfather told me about having a shootout when the “BOSS CRUMP” people tried to steal the ballot box in Memphis.

      • Average Joe Patriot

        Here’s a bumber sticker for the Paul campaign: “RON PAUL CAN’T WIN! Unless YOU VOTE FOR HIM!”

        Followed up by a few more editions: “…if you’re too dumb to vote for him…” etc.

        Some people are acting as though they haven’t seen this media ploy before: marginalizing Paul because he is…well, marginalized.

        Paul can’t win because, well, you know, everybody knows he can’t win.

        Five years ago I was telling people: Hey, dummy! Wake up! He obviously can’t win if you don’t vote for him!

        But, I suppose I needn’t be surprised that a nation that believes in borrowing its way out of debt would fall for media doublethink.

        • LarryH

          Needed Bumper Stickers:

          Waste Your Vote on Ron Paul
          Why waste it on anyone else?

          Why vote the Media’s choice
          When you can vote Ron Paul?

          The Lesser Evil is STILL EVIL!
          Vote Ron Paul instead!

        • Millicent

          Ron Paul can’t win, even if you are stupid enough to vote for him

          • newspooner

            If Ron Paul can’t win, then liberty will definitely be lost. The other candidates are just more of the same stuff that has failed for the past 83 years.

          • newspooner

            And you are the stupid one if you don’t vote for him.

          • APN

            Liberty has already been lost and RP nor any other candidate will ever get it back for YOU, as an individual. WE THE PEOPLE can but a President cannot. Keep focusing at the grass roots level and then and only then will you see any REAL change.

            It’s like Newt said, don’t just send me to the WH and then go home. If you vote for me, then go with me to the WH and STAY INVOLVED!

            Sounds like a plan to me.

    • wandamurline

      Don’t believe the polls, the polls say that the tea party is dead….far from it. The voting boxes have not been filled with votes as yet….as the old saying goes, “don’t county your chickens before they are hatched”. Same goes here….when 86% of Democrats like Romney, everyone should be afraid of this guy. As far as the 50′s and 60′s….wouldn’t mind going back…this era was the most productive time in our history…the family was first,children had respect for their elders, kids had standards and rules and were punished when they disobeyed, God was still in schools and so was discipline and respect, divorce was low, mom stayed home and helped the kids, dad worked in a factory that was honest and give him benefits he could depend on, the homosexuals were still in the closets, and most Americans had a job. I think we could all benefit from that era …. if only we could bring it forward.

      • Old Henry

        Wanda:

        I wouldn’t mind going back either. My knees would not hurt 24/7, my back wold not hurt most of the time, I could hear, I had pretty good vision, I didn’t have a mortgage to pay….

        Hey Beav….

      • tommy

        first off you’d rather kill he environment/children and the entire planet so you could have a year or two to live? if the world were to roll back all the restrictions to industry you might make a year two at the max be fore the ice caps melt and flood every thing but highest parts of America its not a conspiracy its fact as is with the industrial age unchecked brought us to the problems we face now your to worried about gay people and kids. These things with out violence will not go back to that way it would mean that kids could go back to bulling others that beating a child near death would be OK with everyone cause that’s what it would take to get kids back to the 50′s I can tell you being beaten to near death is not one of my fond memories from the 80′s having my head past thru a wall being put on rice the old ways didn’t work and now have created the children we have to day the ones who don’t listen because they got brain damaged inherited from the people who got brain damage from all the people come before them even in the 50′s kids were rebelling and killing each other we just didn’t have the internet or the abilities to search for them like we do today the biggest problem is that your not American your a ghost of the past trying desperately to cling to a life you thought was great for everyone. You also wrongly believe that religion is the answer this is also wrong religion is never the answer for all people your religion should be kept between you and god not you and john the gay janitor who has to hide in the closet you being unable to show affections to his gay one time friends now has to molest little boys cause you went back to a simpler time and let talk about your tea-baggers and pro-life crap i see that you have no care for women married or not who get into a situation that would harm their bodies or cause undue mental harm to you so beloved idea of 50′s children at your age you should remember the coat hanger you know that metal device women were being killed with in-order not to have another child she could not feed or because she was working for some rich woman husband when he raped her didn’t want to let her husband or the mans wife know about it so she wouldn’t lose the job that pays for their meager food. Lets talk about adoption do you honestly believe that adoption agencys keep those kids safe my step father was adopted he was abused and was molested by the way he was the one who nearly killed me at 2 years old for breaking some small thing he bought my mother when my mother was working this is not a mg how rare is this moment it happens everyday the probability that a child whose been in a adoption center has not been molested by other kids in that home/bully or raped is not good. It happens so much that people who are adopted after the age of four refuse to see other kids go thru that so why would you want to destroy more children with a already failed system the same way you want to destroy America with the same old tired UN-american backwater ideals that put us here America must strive for the future not the past and all republicans are doing is trying to go back to failed republican systems that worked for only them in the past stop living int the past and help the children of the future see the light of day cause otherwise your only hoping to kill everyone

        • Dorian Douglas

          I’m truly sorry for the affect that your childhood had on you. I hope you have the good fortune to find peace. But remember, we have vastly more (not fewer) children today growing up to feel as you do.

      • JUKEBOX

        The voting boxes have already been stuffed in many places. I remember when only one Republican vote was tallied in one of our small county boxes, and we had sworn statements that six had been cast.

    • JB

      Party politics is stupid – - no political party was ever a source of intelligence or integrity- – - That’s just tribalism/racism/cultism under a different name – - -

      • Dorian Douglas

        Amen. The only difference between the two parties today is how they want to spend us into oblivion.

        Study Progressivism. All the major elected (as well as most running now) figures in BOTH parties are Progressives. Wolves in sheep’s clothing. Tell us what we want to hear, then secretly do the opposite) How do they survive? The MSM is controlled by Progressives (taught to be so in college)! And the MSM can usually control enough minds in most given elections.

        Term limits are the only solution, to keep any politition from becoming as powerful as our current crop. Then elect people who will reverse the Progressives’ grip on our educational system.

        And if we don’t start in 2012, we will soon no longer be a Republic. Legalizing 20,000,000 illegals will create a welfare class of over 1/2 our citizens. And they will vote for whichever candidates promise them the most (just like 96% of Austrians did when voting for Hitler). How did that turn out?

    • s c

      Comrade Tony, do you expect to get paid for your childish rant? Either move to nother country, or pretend that you “CARE” about America. By the way, how long has it been since the last time someone told you to to SHOVE IT?

      • Old Henry

        Holy cow s c, you seem to be a little grabby today…

      • http://Personalliberty Tony

        To s c:
        You know, i try not to respond to foolishness but it’s obvious you’re lost or too far gone to be reasoned with. If you read my post thoroughly, that’s if you can read, i was actually agreeing with you.
        I swear man get some help for yourself. Bye, Bye!!

        • JUKEBOX

          “YOU CAN’T FIX STUPID”.

    • Baba

      It ain’t over until the fat lady sings so don’t rely on polls that are trying to sway The People. A number of good groups are not heard from because it’ too early in the “running” to do so. Obama is Not going to win by a landslide – just not going to happen no matter how much he does not pay attention to U.S. important matters and tours the country to blabber all the same stuff he’s been trying to push down American’s throats (intimidation) these past three years. Some Democrats are raising their heads out of the sand and realizing they’ve been had. Duh. Takes time for some elected politicians to realize they were seated by The People and not in offical seats to richen their own pockets. The Heat Is On.

    • Larry Owens

      yes tony lets live in obama’s world of Free Money no strings attached. Where have you been for 3 years? of course odumbo can do no wrong. Has any one dug up any of his back ground? Please tell us any thing about him. Oh yes he seems to be pretty smart or acts like he is. A rather Imperial/regal wanna be president.

    • Millicent

      You can only wish the Kenyan Commie Ba$tard squatting in the WH illegally will win. The only way this lowlife can win is through voter fraud. Somthing they’re real good at in Chicago.

      • JUKEBOX

        That’s what put JFK in office, the stuffed Chicago boxes.

  • Donald

    It seems the media has lately switched over to Gingrich

    • Millicent

      Much as I realize the MSM are Commies, they are reporting the polls. I believe what the polls are saying by virtue of having watche the debates.

  • Lost in Paradise

    I think it is true, that alot of Americans are too dumb to vote responsibly. However the Media is likea bunch whores being told what to do by their Pimp. It used to be we got news that was news, not we get HollyWood like acting and personal opinions by newscastors. We do not want or need your opinions,all we want is the facts however boring they are.

    As for Republicans or the GOP, they are becoming the same as Democrats. WE have some Duffas as president that is illegal as hell, and what does Congress do about it? Holder outright lies at a hearing, and what is Congress doing about it? I’m of the opinion, that both sides are working us over good, for the inevitible take over, of all us U.S. citizens, and the destruction of our constitution and bill of rights. Our government is not longer a government”By the people, and for the People”. You can take your rule of law, and stick up your anal canal, as we do not want to be RULED.

    • JUKEBOX

      Watching Eric Holder and Jon Corzine testify before Congress should be enough to make people that these pseudo intellectuals are either totally stupid or totally incompetent or BOTH.

  • James Maxwell

    The truth of the issue is the media is afraid that American see thru
    their “messiah of destruction” and will not vote for him. Like with
    John McCain they are trying to choose the weakest opponent they can
    to help the demos and obama sneak back in. Everyone knew the “fix”
    was in when as soon as McCain was chosen the Democrats raised the
    challenge about his citizenship to cloud the issued of obamas citizenship and other details of his life. They skirted around the
    issued and clouded the water. The media, George Soros and other in the left knew he could not stand the scrunity that would exposed him
    to the world as a fraul. The media has continued to attack any on who raised the question.

    • Mushin

      Can I tell you what truly amazes me Jim? The fact that the people fell for the ruse….the think-tanks that manipulate public opinion are truly amazing, I mean, think about it – they lead the people right where they want them to go.

      The only true conservative is Ron Paul and “they” already have the “fix” in – the word is he’s “un-electable”, “crazy”,etc, when the truth of the matter is, he’s the ONLY one who has had any integrity!

      Americans are just too stupid to see beyond the media manipulation and the lies they are being told.

      • Bleh

        Mushin, indeed, it is crazy when your positions are logical and backed by facts and your “kooky” predictions come true.

        If it is crazy to support the Constitution, Liberty and wanting to stop spending trillions on overseas military actions and bases, while returning to sound money, then we need more crazy people on the Hill…

      • Susan

        As I just posted, if Voter Fraud can be overcome, there will be a big surprise in store. Occasionally out and about in this big city, am AMAZED at how often Ron Paul’s name comes up out of the blue, and from yet another Supporter. And all walks of life: my physicians (whom I count as friends), college students, technicians doing work in my house, clerks, etc… And people are quoting from the Constitution and the Bill of Rights…bright, articulate, devoted to holding on to Our Freedoms and Liberty – and see Dr. Paul as our ONLY chance.

        • Old Henry

          Susan, please point those folks you mentioned that want to hang on to our freedom snd liberty to S.B. 1867. Over 90 traitors voted for its passage and less than 10 percent partiotically voted against it.

        • Old Henry

          Also, Susan have them watch this presentation.

          http://www.brasschecktv.com/page/6035.html

        • Millicent

          Yes Ron Paul’s name does come up. Lot of laughs when his name is mentioned. He has as much chance as a snowball in hell of getting the nomination. Not everyone is stupid enough to want this idiot in the WH. We already have a criminal idiot. Ron Paul would just be a total idiot

          • libertytrain

            Wow. You are something.

          • Bruce Porter Sr

            Dudette, I’m a combat wounded Airborne Ranger. I’m voting for Ron Paul as are a majority of the military.
            Now, as a liberal you probably believe the military shouldn’t be allowed to vote.
            However, we are.
            And we are sick and tired of being used as cannon fodder and due due to support the banksters.
            All but Dr Paul and Rep Bachmann are noting more than the Kenyan.
            So, if you are right, so what?
            We get the Kenyan or a surrogate.
            Slavery is slavery……and it matters little to the slave what the name of the slaver is.

    • T-Texas

      Obama,Holder.Clinton Hairy Reed,Nancy Polussy and the media would like to pick pick our candidate for us.What we all need to do is to join together and defeat Opileofsheeet and his cronnes.It seems that our elected officials will not look at the mounting evidence that this person is as illegal as they come.This makes me very sad that we have but a few that still believe in the constitution as written.Are they ashamed that they live in the US.If sonthey need to leave go back from where they came from for they are not true Americans.Go bless the US and its people.

      • http://yahoo Judyth

        Are you kidding me. What do you mean go back where they come from. This is American, this country was founded with people coming from other countries. No one here has more rights as a citizen than anyone else. All our enscessors are from someplace else. It does not make you more of a citizen because your enscessor got to this country before mine did. This country belongs to everyone, as long as you come here legally. How many times does that man has to prove that he is an American, but you are too bigot to see the truth. Last face it, the problem is that he is a black man, that’s it, just admit it.

        • Marlene

          What’s this ‘enscessor’ stuff? I puzzled over the word because I’d never heard of it and I have a fascination for words. Finally, I looked it up in the dictionary – it doesn’t exist. Another illiterate Liberal calling Republicans names while trying to appear ever so intelligent. Too bad,so sad. Get some education before you speak, please.

        • mickey

          Judith, you are kidding that obama stating we need “nationalizing” has to do with his color?

          Blacks lost that card when they accepted the slave trading (and what else can you call it) by standing up for all the human trafficking coming across the border from Mexico.

        • JLC

          Judyth — My father was full-blooded Apache! That means tnat – at least, on one side – that my ANCESTORS were here before your “enscessors” were.

        • r.p.

          Judyth:
          He only has to prove his citizenship once….Which he has yet to do.

        • MRMO

          JUST ONE MORE DUMB SHEEP WHO LOVES HIS SHEPARD OBUMMER. T0 TRY TO USE THE RACE CARD IS PAST LAME.

    • eddie47d

      So you are agreeing that Americans are stupid? Hmmm!It’s like the Cain issue that was mentioned. Apparently some want the alleged sexual improprieties well hidden and shoved under the rug to protect Cain’s ambitions. Those same people blasted Clinton and kept his sexual smugness on the front page 24/7. Bad behavior is just that and you can’t run or hide from it. The news media goes where the stories are and the Democrats and Republicans alike create stories to defeat the other side or themselves. You can’t always blame the news media alot of the time for the political parties wag their tails all the time to get attention.

      • http://yahoo Judyth

        Well said. The problem is not the media, it’s the american people who can’t think for themselves. All Republicans were OK with what was done to Clinton and are now complaining with what happened to Cain. Cain was smudged by his own people, the Republicans.

        • Marlene

          The huge difference is that Clinton’s sexual game playings were very true and proven where Cain’s accusers have not been proven to be truthful because they were shills for the Obama campaign, bought and paid for. Did any of them take a lie detector test or prove their accusations in any way? This last one claims to have been sexually active with Cain during the period of his life when he was undergoing treatment for stage 4 cancer. If you’ve ever known, or lost, someone to cancer, you know during that nightmarish treatment they’re too sick to even think of sex let alone participate in sexual activity. Use your head, Judyth, and put some thought into your inane remarks.

          • r.p.

            Believe what you want to believe, I prefer to be informed. Do you still go rabid when you hear Ron Pauls name? Do you still drool when you hear Herman Cain, or Newt?

        • eddie47d

          I don’t think Cain had cancer for 13 years straight as the one accuser said she had been with him for that long.

          • libertytrain

            Well kiddo, are you one of those folks that call out guilty without any facts. I still haven’t seen any facts, just accusations. I have no idea if he did any of these things. For some reason so many want this black man guilty of sins before any real evidence is demonstrated. Yes, that is confusing. And Yes, many of things you folks say is confusing since it is counter to what you profess to believe.

          • r.p.

            Libertytrain: There’s something that puzzles me. How could Cain two monthe in advance tell the RNC to expect harrasment charges to surface. When he couldn’t forcast the housing bubble bursting and the bank failures the day before it happened? Then when the charges did surface he said he knew nothing about it and it was all lies. A day later he said he did know about them, but didn’t recall the specifics. Then again a day later during an interview he adamantly confessed to not only knowing the 2 ladies involved but knew of the settlements that were agreed upon. But he wanted the interviewer (FOX) to forget about “old history” and concentrate on the new charges by the third person who came forward but had made no previous harrasment charges. Of course he knew he stood a better chance of refuting her words simply because there were no previous indictments. Keep in mind the first two ladies made their charges in the early 90′s. Did they know then that he was going to run for Potus? Where I come from, these are the actions of a habitual liar. Twenty years ago my lovely neice came home in tears and very distraught one afternoon telling me she didn’t know what to do about her new job of 1 day. I found after calming her down that her new boss had asked her into his office and proposed to her that she would pass the two week trial by performing a tune on his flute, and by making herself readily available for his future “needs”. Maybe it was a bad decision on my part, but I told her to not go back there and let it drop as it could influence her for the rest of her life if she decided to press charges. You see, the burden of proof is her’s to bear. We both understood the ramifications had she taken that course. My hat’s off to those first two ladies. My neice is a wonderful mother, daughter, sister, cousin, neice, and beautiful friend. I hope someday you can be blessed by this gift that has been given unconditionally to me.

          • libertytrain

            I’m not a Cain backer, however, we still don’t know the real facts in total, just bits and pieces they said/he said/ she said on different news stations. I’m sorry about your niece. We all have stories we can tell about harassment, at least all the women I know do, including myself, however, having our own experiences does not equate to Cain being guilty or not guilty. And frankly, even I am able to recognize that just because something bad may have happened to me or friends, doesn’t mean all men are bad because someone made an accusation.

          • libertytrain

            I to am puzzled that these women came out their closets at such a convenient time….why is that? Including his so-called lover of 13 years… sorry, whether they are true or not, I have no idea. I’m just troubled by their timing…

          • r.p.

            Libertytrain:
            I too am intrigued by the timing but not for the first two involved. For all sense and purpose this is the time is it not? Once Cain informed the GNC about the charges, the media began looking into it and they were discovered. They came out because of media pressure. As of now there are five accusers. Where there’s smoke there’s usually fire. And as I previously stated, Cains actions were not necessarily the actions of an innocent person. Don’t feel sorry for my niece, as I said she is a wonderful and beautiful person. Her character has not been corrupted by it, she’s just wiser.

          • libertytrain

            No, I don’t see that as true. If this was such a big deal to these women they could have come out years ago. Same thing with this “lover of 13 years” – why now? Publicity – money from talk shows? I don’t know. Sorry. We’ll have to agree to disagree on this.

          • eddie47d

            It could be a setup against Cain although this latest women said the romance was real and that she is also guilty for being with a married man. Cain insisted he did nothing wrong so he inherently told this lover to brush it off as if it never happened. A woman scorned or lied to can be vicious and revengeful. When Clinton had an affair with Monica I believe that was a set up. What normal woman puts a stained dress ( a nice one) in a closet for a year and then conveniently brings it out to use against someone. I believe Linda Tripp ran that dog and pony show and made her do it. Maybe we’ll never get to the bottom of that either. They will all have to live with their consciences.

          • libertytrain

            You’re right we’ll probably never know the truth. I agree Ms. Tripp was coy to save the dress but I don’t think Monica herself was a set-up. I think she was a naive young gal under the influence of a real fine womanizer who happened to be the pres. But doesn’t matter what I think or you think. They know the truth.

        • Millicent

          Cain was smudged by David Axelrod, Obama’s propaganda minister. This is how Obama got elected to the Senate. David Axelrod started a smear campaign about sexual indescretions of every single candidate that opposed the Kenyan. All were proven false, but too late. Many good men’s names were ruined because of thug politics. Isn’t it funny that every single one of Cain’s accusers came out of Chicago. Wake up, Obama is an out and out Communist pos

    • JUKEBOX

      I wonder why we have not heard any more about Larry Sinclair’s book about Barry, or Corsi’s exposure book.

      • Millicent

        Or about Jeremiah Wrights down low club for married homosexuals in the basement of his church. Obama and Rahm Emanuel got together there.

  • http://www.easyinvest.co.za peter

    The Republicans are going nowhere, they lost the road map. Obama must be a very happy chappie, never mind the real problems in the USA, his only concern is to be re-elected and he knows how to campaign. Lousy President but a great campaigner. His acting ability is superb given the manner in which he has impersonated a President so far. Sorry Republicans, no chance at all for you in 2012.

    • Andrea B

      Wow…seems like you’re a little out of touch with reality.

      Ron Paul 2012

      • Millicent

        Talk about out of touch with reality. Ron Paul? LOL

        • Bleh

          Out of touch with reality? Ron Paul, the man who would restore our Liberty, return us to sound money, end the senseless wars of aggression, trim down our bloated government, balance the budget, all this is Out of touch with reality?
          Seriously, you failed your reality check…

          • Susan

            But this is what’s thrown at Ron Paul Supporters over and over again. And they can’t believe they can’t push us to the ground. Will be a cold day south when Corporate Anything dictates how I will vote… Ron Paul 2012 Reclaiming America

          • Joseph

            The media will only offer up the candidates that support, and will continue supporting the kind of foreign policy (with respect to the middle-east) that will keep the military industrial complex, and the central banks raking in the BIG DOE! This is precisely why congressman Ron Paul is marginalized by the media. Ron Paul’s foreign policy, when elected, will have a detrimental, economic effect on the profits of the afore-mentioned parasites! Presently, the US, has 800, yes, 800 military bases throughout the globe!!!

          • Millicent

            You people who keep shoving Ron Paul in front of everyone are ridiculous. The mean is an idiot. I heard him in the debates, he’s pathetic. Iran have nukes? What planet does this man live on? You Paul supporters are helping to keep the Communist illegal Kenyan in the White House. The candidate will probably be Newt Gingrich and I fully support him. Yes, he made some pretty big mistakes, but who hasn’t. He had a balanced budget for 4 straight years in a row. He cut back on welfare. He was able to rein in Slick Willie. You Paulies ought to come out of your dream and help to get rid of the Kenyan. Keep it up and you will end up with the Kenyan again and we will be finished as a country.

          • Joseph

            Nonsense!

          • http://deleted Claire

            Rein in Slick Willie? How about Newt and reining him in? He apparently can’t keep his pants zipped either.

          • http://deleted Claire

            We will be finished as a country because the two parties cannot put their party affiliations aside and work together to straighten out the mess America is in. They are too damn busy trying to get elected/re-elected and “prove” to Americans that they are the “one and only” party that should be in “power.” In reality, these two parties are similar in many ways, they just try to do it differently but it boils down to the same old, same old. Well, I have news for them–they are all wrong in their pathetic attempts to make sure their party is the one that wins. In this type of situation no one “wins.” America and all Americans are the losers in this grandiose scheme.

    • http://yahoo Judyth

      Why do you think he is a lousy President. This man has stabalized the economy. Remember what he inherited when he came in office. He had to make decisions based on what was going on. Remember, the first stimulus package was not him, it was Bush. This President has done everything else to protect the middle class and you think he is a lousy President? Come on, lets be fair.

      • mickey

        Yes, and any good CEO would have turned it around in a year or been gone. Sound like what happened to CAIN?

        Fess up. Both repubs/dems are the same coin. Neither side wants to get rid of their cosy insider trading.

    • JUKEBOX

      He has also impersonated an American citizen, a lawyer, and a heterosexual, among other things.

  • PINK GIN

    For the life of me, I can’t think of the reason that MITT and NEWT don’t use their real names, to me it is obvious that these are merely “Nick names” and sound more like comic book anti-heroes,,,I will NOT vote for either of these guys unless they become more “Presidential “and if I DO take the time to vote, it will be for Ron Paul. If Mr Paul doesn’t win the nomination, then I will abstain and probably a whole scad of people will do the same.
    This means 4 more years of Obama,,,oh well, that’s the way it’s going to be anyway with the GOP misfits we have on the slate.

    • Lost in Paradise

      You are absolutly correct about the other candidates being misfits Pink Gin. Alot of people are too young, to remember what Newt was up to. However if this country is to survive, we need to vote for a republican misfit, rather than let Obama have it again. Good Greif do you not care about your country more than that? We would still be better off with one of the Republican Misfits than Obama. Maybe not much, but I’ll take what I can get.

      • Doris Richardson

        I agree that we need to get the most qualified “credentialed” candidate that can beat Obama, the “community
        Organizer.”. He was elected because he had charisma and no background of accomplishments and look
        At what we got! If you want another four years of taking our country down the path of socialism and Facisim then keep arguing among yourselves and putting the candidates down and you will get what you’re asking for. My
        Retirement fund has shrunk at least one- third and I’m already retired. There has never been a perfect candidate and never will be. So, get real and support the Republican party or get out!

        Most of you sound like libertarians and on a mission to elect Ron Paul. That would really put Obama back in for another four years.

        • mickey

          I read a post once that said we need to elect a moderate repub so we can begin to get back to our roots. Ron Paul is the “roots”. Ironic that repubs want to keep the machine going with the same agenda that failed to get back to roots.

      • dan

        Sorry LiP, I do not agree that anyone is better than the big O. Newt is a known liar and flip flopping hypocrite…not at all trustworthy. All the others, except RP…are not grounded with reality or life in the real world. Additionally, IMHO, both parties, R & D, are after the same NWO…just look at the recently passed bills and who voted for their passage…trust know one.

      • Mark in LA

        How many times have we heard this crap that we “need” to vote the Republican or we will get the Democrat. Yeah, doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result.

    • rb

      Don’t just not vote. Write in Paul. I will be doing that to be able to say at least I tried.

      • Capitalist at Birth

        Tried to re-elect Obama? Real smart. Just like all those who voted for Perot in 1992?

        • Bleh

          The ONLY reason Perot failed is because he dropped out and tried to get back in.
          If Ron Paul wins the nomination he wins the election as he appeals to more of the populace than any other GOP candidate. He has more in common with Obama’s base than Obama does since he is liar. Ron Paul is the only real Peace candidate in the running… Peace candidates tend to trump the opposition in the General Election…

        • mickey

          Romney and especially Newt are just an expansion of obama, so whether it reads repub/dem. It doesn’t matter, obama will still be in office.

          Listen to Newt, bomb, regime change, CIA, all in Iran. Same for most candidates. Except Paul and he says war powers belong to Congress. Who knew?

      • just me

        rb, you got that right. Let’s hope Ron Paul gets the nomination, but if not, WRITE HIM IN, DON’T JUST BLOW OFF VOTING BECAUSE YOU FEEL HELPLESS….NOT VOTING GUARANTEES YOU WILL BE. AND THAT IDEA OF ‘LET SOMEONE ELSE TAKE CARE OF THINGS’ IS JUST WHAT GOT US WHERE WE ARE.
        Do some reading, “The Creature Of Jekyll Island” is a good starting point. Tell your friends what has been going on in this country, and urge them to do some reading also. If they get most of their news from the boob tube, beg them to start looking around on the internet for what’s really happening. Remind them that David Rockefeller thanked the mainstream media for keeping secrets from the American people while he and his Federal Reserve buddies played their games with OUR money, OUR Constitution, and OUR lives.

        • Millicent

          Gee you Paul supporters are so patriotic. You are just a shill for the Kenyan and are helping him with your childish stance. I won’t vote or I will write in for Paul. You people are a national disgrace and should hang your heads in shame for what you are doing. Why don’t you just go out and campaign for Obama and get it over with.

          • Joseph

            Why don’t you just vote for Ron Paul, and end the Kenyan’s madness!!!

      • Lost in Paradise

        I do not want to hurt your feelings, but that is a really dumb Idea. You will be giving that vote to Obama. Is that what you really want?

        • mickey

          ummm listen to Newt and Romney, take the repub off them, and tell me they don’t sound just like obama–more regulation, more intervention in foreign affairs (NWO), more TSA, more NDAA.

          Throwing a vote to obama by voting Ron Paul doesn’t make since. Everyone except Paul IS obama.

    • Millicent

      Like a typical petulant Paul supporter, if I don’t get my way, I’ll help the Kenyan retain power. You fools ought to be ashamed of yourself. BTW the media has not picked my candidate for me. Herman Cain was smeared by David Axelrod and I never believe a word of it. However, he did poorly in the debates, so I crossed him off my list. Romney is playing it safe and refuses to attack the Kenyan. Michelle Bachmann was destroyed by the left wing press. Besides, I don’t think America is ready to elect a woman president. I found no fault with her. Ron Paul lost me when he said it was ok for Iran to have nukes. Whate part of they want to destroy us doesn’t he get. He is another Neville Chamberlain. No thank you. Rick Perry just cannot seem to get it together although I believe he is a very decent man.Newt Gingrich has performed outstandingly in the debates. Does he have a past? Yes he does and he has apologized for his indescretions. Do I agree with everything he has said? No. However, I don’t think you can be a purist because it just is not going to work. So we are down to 2, Romney or Gingrich. Gingrich has put forth actual plans and has attacked the Saul Alinsky radicalism of the Kenyan. He will mop the floor with this criminal in any debate. He had 4 balanced budgets during his tenure as Speaker and cut welfare. He was able to rein in Slick Willie. He has shown leadership. The media has not selected him for me. I have selected him based on his debate performance. It’s just that you Ron Paul supporters don’t like the fact that people realize what a doddering old fool he is. The media didn’t do that. He did it to himself by opening his mouth

      • Bleh

        Apparently you missed the fact that Ron Paul’s position is the smart one. We get attacked because we constantly stick our noses where it don’t belong. You can thank our Government for the losers in charge in Iran, now Libya and Egypt to boot. Interference is a failed foreign policy with scads of proof to back it up.

        • Millicent

          We get attacked because Iran wants to destroy us. They want to destroy us just for the sake of destroying us. Islam’s goal is world domination under Sharia Law and will behead anyone who will not submit. Ron Paul is blinded by his own rhetoric and cqnnot deal with the truth. He is as dangerous as the Kenyan to our national security.

          • mickey

            Please take time to look at the map of our bombing countries, literally surrounding Iran and whose “regime” changes brought in the Muslim Brotherhood. Now, Newt proposes more of the same thing, regime change. And just how do you think that will turn out for us? Talk about spreading Sharia law.

            Russia went broke with this war strategy and has turned to “trade” strategy. A money making strategy. Now would you want to “trade” with a country that has bombed you for 40 yrs?

          • Joseph

            Millicent, Iran does not want to destroy us. That is simply fiction! Iran has not invaded anyone in 300 hundred years. The same cannot be said for the good old USA! Turn off the boob tube, and give your head a rest from the indoctrination. Do our country a good turn, and VOTE FOR RON PAUL!

          • Bleh

            Millicent: “We get attacked because Iran wants to destroy us.”

            Seriously? And where, pray tell, did you find that gem of total disinformation?
            I can point to around 1953 when we affected regime change on Iran as a starting point. Can you do better?

            Millicent: “They want to destroy us just for the sake of destroying us.”
            See above.

            Millicent: “Islam’s goal is world domination under Sharia Law and will behead anyone who will not submit.”
            Funny, because prior to 1953 I was under the assumption we had been on good terms with Iran and the Middle East.

            Millicent: “Ron Paul is blinded by his own rhetoric and cqnnot deal with the truth.”
            That would actually be you. Your rhetoric flies in the face of the facts.

            Millicent: “He is as dangerous as the Kenyan to our national security.”
            Incorrect. See what the policy of interference has recently brought in Libya and Egypt. By the way that pretty much mirrors the policy Bush was lean towards when he left office. Next up Iran and or Syria.
            Ron Paul’s policy is to bring the soldiers home, stop meddling with other county’s affairs and secure our borders. Meaning we don’t help enemies gain control of nations and we don’t anger people world wide and create terrorists. No other candidate promises this. A porous border guarantees never-do-wells penetration into our country by the way. Just a matter of time until some “terrorists” figures this out and jumps the Southern border, grabs a charter plane and flies into another building or worse.

      • Lost in Paradise

        You must be very young, or have another problem.

      • r.p.

        I address this to Millicent: If Ron Paul does not win the republican nomination, there is no one else in the race as it is now that will give any change to the “Status Quo”. You might just as well vote for Obama. If R.P. does not win the nomination I will have to re-evaluate the third party tickets and see who would be the best choice. I will not give any endorsement to neither the Dems or Gops just because there is no R.P. I will not support any party if they continue to support unqualified candidates. The only “winners” will be the two party cabal. The “People” will lose dearly. Your vote is your voice, use it to tell them you are fed up with corruption from both sides.
        When I hear all these catchy , extremely thought provoking and intelligent phrases like; “He’s unelectable”, “Insane”, “Kook”, “Too old”, “Way out there”, “He’ll split the ticket”, “Isolationist”, “Paulbots”, “He’s for legalizing (you name it)”, “Naive”, “He just doesn‘t look Presidential“,. and especially “If you vote for him you’ll guarantee an Obama win“. It’s easy to see that you failed to do your homework and the MSM’s subliminal suggestions and propaganda based pseudo journalism is working just fine. Yeppirs…. Pavlov’s dogs are doing just exactly what they were programmed to do. Drool whenever they hear Cain, Bachman, Perry, Romney, Gingrich. Or the next flavor of the month, become rabid when they hear Ron Paul.
        If Principles, Values, Honesty, and Integrity are too heavy of a cross to bear, then maybe you shouldn’t be voting.

        • Millicent

          Let me assure you I have done my homework and I think Ron Paul is an idiot. The media has not influenced me at all. Ron Paul opened his moutn and I found out he is a very dangerous man. He will get us in WWIII as fast as the Kenyan with his ostrich mentality. You supporters don’t live in the real world and are helping to turn this gov’t over to a Communist. Shame on you.

          • r.p.

            I don’t believe you have done any homework. And I do believe you have been greatly influenced by the media. i.e: The 5 Major News Networks (5MNN). You should reach out for alternative news sources, and try to develop some cognizant evaluation skills.

          • Bleh

            World War III?
            Ron Paul preaches non-interference, how exactly does a non-interventionist policy get us involved in a World War? No, here you are just speaking BS. A non-interventionist policy will prevent wars, especially our own preemptive wars of aggression that will cause a world war and you can take that to the proverbial bank.
            If we invade Iran I can guarantee you that Russia won’t stand by and likely neither will China…

          • http://deleted Claire

            Speaking of China—I read in the local newspaper that some college kids stumbled across a huge arsenal in China–Nukes, everything. Has anyone heard about this? I wonder if Bob Livingston can find anything on this?

          • libertytrain
          • http://deleted Claire

            libertytrain–Thank you for the link!! I appreciate your time and effort! I have always had a gut feeling about China. I have never trusted them. In some of the terrorist manuscripts that I have edited, it was stated that China has over 5 million troops, and that they had enough firepower/arsenal, etc. to take over any country they decided to acquire. This really bothers me because we owe China lock, stock, and barrel. This is not good. America needs to get out from under their hold, and China does have a hold on America. This is serious business. America should never be “beholden” to any country. I despise this situation, because all administrations have placed America in jeopardy in many ways. People will probably think I am a radical but this is how I feel, and I go with my gut instincts.

          • libertytrain

            claire, your words are pretty much how I feel. They did this to us, perhaps we weren’t paying enough attention — yet I don’t know what exactly we as citizens could have done – so much is done behind closed doors – or tacked unnoticed on documents/bills, etc. I feel like we’ve been had by greedy greedy politicians from all “parties” that would sell their mother, child or grandchild if it would make them a buck…

          • http://deleted Claire

            libertytrain– I truthfully do not think we could have done anything. Like you said, things are done behind closed doors, and the American public is never told the whole story. We are the last ones to find out anything and then it is only what they want to tell us.

    • http://PersonalLibertyDigest Virginia

      It’s people who think like you, that have let our country get to where it is! You would let a man who is trying to destroy the U.S. be reelected, than go out and vote for a republican that did’nt fit your idealism. I feel sorry for our country! ANY REPUBLICAN IS BETTER THAN THE IMPOSTER WE HAVE NOW!

      • eddie47d

        Spin the wheel or throw a dart seems to be your concept. Vote for anyone even if it’s the wrong one.

      • http://yahoo Judyth

        How he is trying to destry the country, but trying to put people back to work. The Republicans in congress are trying to destroy the country. This President that you bigots called the Kenyan have not been able to do anything yet, because the Republicans have turned down anything he proposed. The reason you think he is destroying American is because you don’t want America to have a black president. Well get use to it, he is here to stay.

        • mickey

          Judyth, you keep on with this black stuff. Please, government can only produce “government” jobs, not private sector jobs.

          Destroy the country? Everyone making the same wage, which is about where it is–seniors saving all their lives but ending up with welfare benefits–sort of doesn’t sound like “pursuit of happiness” but “guaranteed happiness”.

          Please listen to Barbara from Harlem, this site. Things are changing and so are ALL US citizens.

        • Monte

          Bigot. Rascist. Leftist words of hate, flung by a leftist at anyone who doesn’t agree with them.

          • eddie47d

            Ditto to those on the extreme right Monte who ply the same tactics.

        • Millicent

          This man is killing the country. It has nothing to do with his color. This man is pure evil. If you don’t recognize how Obamacare has destroyed health care you are a fool. Wait until you cannot get treatment because one of the death squad bureacrats says “it’s not cost effective” He is over regulating and destroying jobs. Look around you and stop supporting a Communist out to destroy America

          • Bleh

            I agree and neither a vote for Newt Gingrich nor Mitt Romney will change one thing. However Ron Paul is all about restoring the Republic and our Liberty. Along with those two come a host of other things that used to make this country great.
            You know like sound money, less regulation, smaller Government and free markets?

        • MO

          HERE WE GO “THE RACE CARD” AGAIN. THIS IS THE SECOND TIME THIS PERSON HAS PULLED IT OUT. WHEN THE TRUTH IS REALY A LIE THEY PULL THE “YOU DON’T LIKE HIM BECAUSE HE’S BLACK”. THEY DO NOT WANT TO SEE HOW BAD OBUMMER HAS MESSED UP THE COUNTRY.!!! BACK ROOM DEALS,AND DUBBLE TALK WHEN HE’S NOT TALKING OUT THE SIDE OF HIS FACE.. TAKE OUT THE LIES AND HE HAS NOTHING TO SAY !!!

    • Marlene

      So far, the only thing said by Newt was in the debates when he put the Liberal moderators down for trying to stir up in-fighting between the debaters. I sure got a huge laugh out of the dumbstruck look on their faces. Mainly because Newt saw through their underhanded tactics. What a hoot!

    • JUKEBOX

      Why did Barry Soetoro clandestinely change his name, with “NO” legal paperwork, to Barak Hussein Obama sometime in the 80′S. Nobody has pursued this “NAME CHANGE”.

  • Lost in Paradise

    If the Republicans have no chance in 2012, it is the voters who will not vote for Ron Paul. He is the only honest one of the bunch, and what he proposes, “return to the constitution”, is not what people really want. I doubt that most americans are even aware we have a constitution, nor do the care or like what is in it if they did read it. Paul would be a president for the American citizen first and foremost. His foreign policy is right on, and would help us rebuild this republic to what it once was. All of the other candidates are more of the same crap as before and now.

  • Robert A Hirschmann

    We need RON PAUL in the white house! He is the only candidate that is not influenced by big business, unions, lobbyists, or any other source. He is a true conservative and constitutionalist. He is the only one with a plan to restore America. Lets all get on his bandwagon and vote him in–PLEASE!

    • Millicent

      Yeah we need Ron Paul like we need a case of hemmorhoids. Please get over it.

      • libertytrain

        You aren’t going to win anyone over or impress them with your vicious banter.

        • http://deleted Claire

          libertytrain–Your words are so true. I keep thinking what my Mother used to say–”You get more with honey than you do vinegar.” One of my favorites is: “You can’t get blood out of a turnip.” LOL

      • newspooner

        Anyone who claims to be opposed to communism (like Millicent) is really dumb to disavow Ron Paul. He is by far the most anticommunist of all the candidates.

  • mirage

    As long as our political system remains unchanged, I don’t care who wins all the various elections; not much will change for Main Street, as the system is set up to allow corruption to prosper, at the expense of Middle America.
    For the last 30+ years the middle class has been taking it on the chin regardless of which party controlled politics.
    For those who think Ron Paul will make much of a difference in Washington if he were to win the White House, I say you’re either stupid, dishonest, or a both!
    If nothing is going to change with our political system, I’ll reluctantly vote for Barrack Obama – at least his party has put forth a feeble effort to change affordable health care for the better (currently has failed), where the Republicans are clearly the party of the RICH.
    America,s best chances are with the social movements like OWS and “Get Money Out”.
    If people want to change our political system for the better, we’ll have to take to the streets, because clearly our votes have not made much of a difference these last 30+ years.

    • Lost in Paradise

      You surely have the correct I.D.. Your entire idiology is a Mirage. If you think this administration is anything good, then you are certainly DUMBER THAN A POST!

      If Ron Paul could not do anything as president, it is because of traitors like yourself, who do not believe in the Constitution of the United States of America. Stupid liberals!!!

    • rb

      I’m sorry you haven’t seen what 4 years of Democratic control of congress did to our country. Republicans are the party of the rich? George Sorros isn’t a Republican. Nancy Pelosi exempted her husband’s company from having to pay the new minimum wage and produced a 33 million dollar gov’t grant to pay for renovation of his factory. Diane Fienstein helped use eminent domain to seize valuable property in CA for her husband to develop without paying for it. Does the name “Solandra” ring a bell? The list goes on and on. And the health care issue…give me a break. Forcing people to buy overpriced health insurance or face gov’t persecution is hardly an alternative. In fact more Americans are now uninsured BECAUSE of Obamacare than before it was jammed down our collective throats. Wake up! It won’t be just four more years of Mr. Obama if he is re-elected. Look at the latest laws our good gov’t has passed regarding indefinite detainment of American citizens without charges, without trial and even if they have been tried and aquitted.

      • Alex Frazier

        That’s funny rb. You’re probably right. I don’t have health insurance right now on sheer principle. I refuse to let the government tell me what to do. If they fine me, I won’t pay it. If they prosecute me, I’ll call the news and show the country what madated health care coverage really looks like under the government thumb.

      • eddie47d

        rb; Fewer people have insurance because of the unemployment they faced. When you are faced with house payments,food or health insurance the health insurance goes.The big reason is that Health insurers began dropping people like flies several years ago.You know that preexisting excuse. Thirdly, many companies also dropped health coverage as a benefit much like they did with pension plans. So that drop you were talking about has factual reasons you failed to mention.

        • mickey

          You are right about health insurance. I did try to keep mine up when I was unemployed but food and mortgage payments took presidence.

          My retirement went poof as soon as Glass/Steagall was repealed.

      • http://yahoo Judyth

        May I remind you stupid people that the “Obamacare is not even in effect yet, not until 2014. Please do your homework and make sure you know what you are talking about. Healthcare is expensive because it is still controlled by the Rich, not because of Obama. Obama is trying to stop the high cost of the healthcare, trust me I’ve been working in the medical field as an insurance person the past 25 years. My knowledge is through personal and professional experience, not by what fox news is putting out there.

        • mickey

          Oh, yes, I thank you for being informed that my health insurance is now 3 times what it was (covering less). Did you forget that we were to PAY for it for 3 years before being able to use it? And those funds have already been raided.

          Yep, you have a point, give the government a new slush fund until 2014 and it has no money to pay for its promise.

          • Bleh

            Excellent points mickey. I would only add two things:
            1) NO limits to the cost of Health Insurance have been added, yet a few regulations that mandate a few items of coverage the the Insurance companies must now provide. This means the of Coverage to the Insurance companies goes up who in turn hand this over to the consumer.
            2) When the bill completely kicks in and the Insurance companies get their mandatory customers, then simple good Business practices kick in and Cost of premiums go up yet again.

            In the end the Middle Class will be lucky if it can pay for one premium for one person, let alone a Premium(s) for a family of 4…

        • JUKEBOX

          Judyth, since you believe that Obama is not a friend of the wealthy, but of the poor, I would like to ask you one simple question. HOW MANY PEOPLE DO YOU KNOW WHO COULD AFFORD TO SPEND $38,500 JUST TO HAVE DINNER WITH OBAMA AND A FEW HUNDRED OF HIS “POOR” FRIENDS? I do have a few wealthy friends, and not one of them would be “stupid” enough to waste their money on this fraud.

    • Bleh

      Even if Ron Paul is blocked by Congress from affecting change he has every authority to rescind tons of executive orders and every authority to bring the troops home.
      Those two points alone are worth Electing him.

    • Marlene

      Obviously, your brain is a ‘mirage’.

    • JUKEBOX

      You must have been living under a rock for the last three years. Obama’s FUNDAMENTAL CHANGE has left our country in worse shape than it was in during the Depression, while making himself a multi millionaire.

  • Lost in Paradise

    If everyone would vote Ron Paul at the primary’s, that would make a huge difference, and then vote hime in in 2012, God Willing.

    Do you Want America to have a balance budget?

    Do you like wars that we never win, or gain anything?

    DO you like being pushed around by a dictatorship?

    Do you like the lack of jobs, and productivity in America?

    We will have a chance under Ron Paul to end these problems once and for all. The others, will continue to put us into debt, give us more wars, and continue to make us less and less productive.

    • chipshot

      I believe that Ron Paul is the one repub candidate that the misfit malcontent heading the soros administration is most concerned about.
      In a straight up fair election I believe he would beat islamobama hands down. But when you look at the number of people that have swallowed the M.S.M. reports that Dr. Paul cannot win, you realize how much damage the dept of edu has done to the country. The majority of the younger generation (and a large number of the over 40 crowd) believe all they have been taught in our broken school system: Big Government is the answer to all our problems.

      • eddie47d

        I like Ron Paul but you should rename your self cheap-shot in you silly attacks on Obama.

      • Millicent

        Obama would laugh his Kenyan a$$ of if Ron Paul got the nomination, which thank God, he won’t Soros and the Kenyan would do a dance for joy.

        • Bleh

          Actually Obama wouldn’t laugh. He would actually have to knuckle down and campaign harder as not only does Ron Paul poll quite well against Obama, he actually appeals to Obama’s own base of voters as the the real President of peace. Given Libya, Yemen, Somalia and Afghanistan Obama can no longer say this.
          Then of Course both have polar opposite positions on Guantanamo, the Patriot Act and a host of other things…
          Actually if Ron Paul got the nomination I would bet money he would beat Obama.

          • Millicent

            Dream on

          • JUKEBOX

            If Obama campaigned any harder, he would have to take ten vacations in a year of a week or two.

  • http://tekgnosis.typepad.com Juan Viche

    phone.ronpaul2012.com … start today!

  • Doc

    The only one that will bring real change is Ron Paul

  • http://www.mikeseyes.blogspot.com Michael Neibel

    I would like to see more names of republican insiders besides Sam Geduldig. The dems are trying hard to place this country under one party rule and the repubs don’t seem to get it. They think they will always be able to win elections when voters tire of dems. They find it unthinkable that voters could ever tire of repubs who wont stand up for freedom and individual rights and keep siding with dems in their quest to to be our keepers.

    • Lost in Paradise

      Michael I think it is more complicated than that. I do believe that the citizens of this country have become very much socialistic in their idiology. THanks to social engineering by our beloved univerities, colleges, and public schools.

      • Alex Frazier

        I’ll second that notion. Socialism is spreading like a disease, and it’s against the law to be the antibody.

        • JUKEBOX

          There is no ANTIBODY for a Mental Disease.

      • bob wire

        “The dems are trying hard to place this country under one party rule and the repubs don’t seem to get it. ”

        The Democrats are not trying ~ anything, ~ they are just waiting for someone to come forward with some “worthy opposition”

        They are waiting! for the GOP rack and file to decide to get to work and be a part of the solution. We’ve been waiting 3 years!

        Why blame democrats for the GOP refusal to do anything but draw their pay and say “NO!”? ~ Ron Paul and Mitt Rommey are the only worthy contenders and you people can’t agree among yourselves on these two men.

        This blame game for your fails on ALL fronts ~ is getting down right comical! The Grand old Party has been replaced with the Grand old Circus.

        • Bleh

          I think you are confused. There is absolutely no real difference between the Dems and the Repubs. Obama was just another Bush with a slightly different flavor and Romney would be another Obama with a slightly different flavor (See Romney Care). Both are consistently inconsistent.
          The only reason Ron Paul isn’t, is he is a Libertarian in Republican clothes and has a consistent history to back his positions up…
          He is the only worthy candidate in the field.

          • JUKEBOX

            Obama would not make a decent pimple on Bush’s backside.

    • http://www.boblivingstonletter.com/ Bob Livingston

      Dear Michael Neibel,

      The complete list can be found by following the hyperlinks in the article.

      Best wishes,
      Bob

  • http://aol.com sean murrey ILLIniois

    The lib media can go to hell i will do my own picking of a president.

    • Lost in Paradise

      Sean I admire you for that, however the majority is unable to think for themselve and are too busy with the “boob tube” to get stressed out by having to think.

  • Barry

    If you want freedom you have to take the chains off. Freedom looks for the truth. It set nations and people free. being enslaved by debt nationally or personally is not Good. This nation should be having a surplus every year. Ron Paul knows how the montary system works best. Sound money,less spending ,revenue, Also what Exalts a Nation Righteous)righteous governing. Also that all propit comes from the Earth. Just have to go in the ground and get it.. Our Nation should owe NO ONE AT All.. Being chained with debt which has become abomination of desolation. shame on our leaders who have allowed this.. It is time to turn back to Sound Ground that made this Country Great. 1)Righteousness government personal also would help. 2) Money being Sound Gold & Silver. 3) Deal with other nations as you would have them do to you. ( Israel first) because it is the Nation God instructs us on to pray for and support)It is the Nation of the King of Kings and the Lord of Lords. Our Leader needs to be Champion for liberties ,wisdom on foreign affairs , someone who supports our borders not everybody elses. Ron Paul is by far the best for this country. But it looks like the Banking system in Europe will fail shortly which will cause chaos , hysteria in Asian , America,and the world financial systems. This will cause America to change badly. The Banking sytem will change in 4 years. Ron Paul can ease the suffering more then anyone else that is up for the presidency. Remember Terrorist attacks will continue because of us being in their territory , matters and not minding ourbusiness. We have lost trillions of dollars most important lives so who has really won here not America. Go America hit the mark by choosing Ron paul for Our President.

    • Millicent

      Ron Paul for President? God forbid

      • Bleh

        Ron Paul for President? God willing.

  • Alex Frazier

    I’ll agree that most people are too stupid to vote. Unfortunately, in the case of these insiders, they aren’t any more qualified. If they were, the media and all its cronies would be spreading Ron Paul from coast to coast.

    I come to that conclusion because I formed my politics and found Paul. I didn’t find Paul and form my politics. I was constitutionally minded, economically educated, and politically active. I wanted a president that would follow the constitution, make wise decisions for the nation, fix our economic issues, and basically do a good and honorable job. On that criteria, I found Ron Paul, while for most it’s the other way around. They find Ron Paul and develop the understanding of the importance of his message.

    As for the rest of the article, I agree completely. It pisses me off that the media is clearly trying to steer people towards specific candidates. I don’t want to be steered. I want them to ask an equally distributed number of questions to each candidate so I can make my own choice based on their answers to each issue. I don’t want to hear Mitt Romney’s answer to ten issues, and then half a sound bite for Ron Paul to almost answer to one. I’m as interested in hearing Santorum’s answers as I am Newt’s or Perry’s.

    I don’t know if there’s anything that can really be done about it, though. We don’t control the media, and since the first amendment will be upheld in their case (the first amendment only seems to count if your biased media, a porn peddlar, or anti-American … the rest of us anti-government folks are labeled terrorists, white supremecists, and extremists), we have no way to put them in their place, except to organize a significant boycott. Pull enough viewers for long enough and the sponsors will pull their ads.

    But in this country of morons, good luck getting enough people to organize on such a thing.

  • Sirian

    In an overall sense there is very little, if any, difference between the Democrats and the Republicans – they both have been Progressives for a very long time. With that as it is no wonder there is much more concern now then ever before as to what direction the INDEPENDENTS will move. HA, I’ve been a registered Independent for over thirty years – and people are just now beginning to come to their senses? Stand back everyone, this election is going to get extremely dirty. There will be so many false statements and commercials run as never before. Basically, with a bit of common sense added in, the political parties and members on whole don’t actually give a crap as to the the well being and preservation of our nation. As usual, their only concern is to achieve the ultimate victory so as to continue the “con game” they have had in place for well over sixty years. Naw, people would rather watch Survivor or the Super Bowl than pay close attention to what they are being taken for – sound normal? You bet!!

    • r.p.

      Well said Sirian, but I’ll dissagree with the 60 years. It’s been 150 years.

  • PINK GIN

    Thank you Mirage for thinking I am Stupid and Dishonest, I will keep that in mind during the rest of the day and I think I’ve done rather well for 74 years being Stupid.

    • Robert A Hirschmann

      Yeah Pink Gin. I’ve also been around for 74 years and am just as stupid as you are. RON PAUL is the only way to go to help this country. Boy, are we dumb!

      • Millicent

        No President has the power to amend the Constitution. That is done at the state level.

  • Michael Lewis

    The hush-hush of politics is controlling a segment of people without those people recognizing they are being managed.

    In 1789 The Constitution and Bill of Rights were established as the law of the land.

    For 97 years it was understood that 1st Amendment freedoms of speech, press and assembly were the sole rights of flesh and blood citizens. Corporations had no rights. Newspapers had the right to print because they employed people and not the other way around.

    “The 20th century has been characterized by three developments of great political importance: the growth of democracy; the growth of corporate power; and the growth of corporate propaganda as a means of protecting corporate power against democracy.” -Alex Carey, Australian social scientist who pioneered the investigation of corporate propaganda (see Taking the Risk Out Of Democracy, Univ of New South Wales, 1995)

    In 1886 footnotes to the Santa Clara Railroad case, written by a Supreme Court Clerk who was previously a railroad executive, became the basis for corporations claiming the same rights as flesh and blood people.

    Following reports of serious financial abuses in the 1972 Presidential campaign, Congress amended the FECA in 1974 to set limits on contributions by individuals, political parties and PACs. But politicians exempted the commercial press, because the 1st Amendment prohibits abridging their freedom of speech and the press.

    2 USC 431 (9) (B) (i) The term “expenditure” does not include any news story, commentary, or editorial distributed through the facilities of any broadcasting station, newspaper, magazine, or other periodical publication, unless such facilities are owned or controlled by any political party, political committee, or candidate;

    But we cannot rely on the commercial press to be unbiased and provide the information we need to remain free. Both Republicans and Democrats agree the press is biased and only differ on which networks and newspapers are the culprits:

    A newspaper must at all times antagonize the selfish interests of that very class which furnishes the larger part of a newspaper’s income… The press in this country is dominated by the wealthy few…that it cannot be depended upon to give the great mass of the people that correct information concerning political, economical and social subjects which it is necessary that the mass of people Shall have in order that they vote…in the best way to protect themselves from the brutal force and chicanery of the ruling and employing classes. (E.W. Scripps).

    In my opinion the idea of media being objective was a marketing ploy to sell newspapers:

    “It was not until the 1920s that you really get the notion of professional journalists, the way we think about them today,” says Michael Delli Carpini, dean of the Annenberg School of Communication at the University of Pennsylvania. “A lot of different schools of journalism started, codes of ethics were developed, the whole notion of the journalist as objective came into play …. of standing outside the story, telling both sides, of being factual rather than opinionated.”

    If the United States Supreme Court defined freedom of religion using the same logic that campaign laws use to define a free press only the church or synagogue “as an institution” would enjoy freedom of religion, not its parishioners!

    “Section 431(9)(B)(i) makes a distinction where there is no real difference: the media is extremely powerful by any measure, a “special interest” by any definition, and heavily engaged in the “issue advocacy” and “independent expenditure” realms of political persuasion that most editorial boards find so objectionable when anyone other than a media outlet engages in it. To illustrate the absurdity of this special exemption the media enjoys, I frequently cite as an example the fact that if the RNC bought NBC from GE the FEC would regulate the evening news and, under the McCain-Feingold “reform” bill, Tom Brokaw could not mention a candidate 60 days before an election. This is patently absurd.” – Senator McConnell

    The press exemption divides participation in America’s political process into two categories: The regulated majority, every living U.S. Citizen, candidate for office, political party and political organization and the unregulated commercial media.

    To restore equal protection under law, the “press exemption”, 2 USC 431 (9) (B) (i), should be modified to read: “The term expenditure does not include any news story, commentary, or editorial distributed by any candidate, political party, citizen, citizens group, non-profit corporation, broadcasting station, newspaper, magazine, or other periodical publication.”

    Every man is equally entitled to protection by law; but when the laws undertake to add… artificial distinctions, to grant titles, gratuities, and exclusive privileges, to make the rich richer and the potent more powerful, the humble members of society the farmers, mechanics, and laborers who have neither the time nor the means of securing like favors to themselves, have a right to complain of the injustice of their government. President Andrew Jackson.

    The 1st Amendment does not guarantee our freedoms but it does prohibit Congress from writing laws that would abridge them. The 1st Amendment was added to the Constitution because some State representatives to the Constitutional Convention feared the power of an over reaching Central Government. State Constitutions are where protections of our freedoms of speech, press and assembly are found. The 14th Amendment attempts to extend Federal protection to the Bill of Rights and in this instance is misconstrued. Only Congress can violate the 1st Amendment and the Federal Campaign Act and the Bipartisan Campaign Reform Act violate the prohibitions of the 1st Amendment. Federal Campaign laws abridge freedoms of speech, press by limiting how much money individual citizens and citizens groups can donate to their candidates and issues, and they abridge freedom of assembly by declaring it a crime for candidates, political parties and grass roots organizations to coordinate their advertising campaigns.

    The solution to limiting corporate influence and restoring flesh and blood citizen’s control of politics is not limiting how much individuals and grass roots organizations can spend communicating. There is no Constitutional basis for making political coordination a crime? Does a candidate for office have the responsibility or authority to tell a citizen or citizens group they cannot simultaneously put out campaign materials from the candidate and a grass roots organization that supports the candidate? Where in the Constitution does participating in politics require a candidate or citizen to give up 1st Amendment freedoms of assembly and association?

    UNITED STATES v. ASSOCIATED PRESS – Decided June 18, 1945
    It would be strange indeed however if the grave concern for freedom of the press which prompted adoption of the First Amendment should be read as a command that the government was without power to protect that freedom. That Amendment rests on the assumption that the widest possible dissemination of information from diverse and antagonistic sources is essential to the welfare of the public, that a free press is a condition of a free society. Surely a command that the government itself shall not impede the free flow of ideas does not afford non-governmental combinations a refuge if they impose restraints upon that constitutionally guaranteed freedom. Freedom to publish means freedom for all and not for some. Freedom to publish is guaranteed by the Constitution, but freedom to combine to keep others from publishing is not. Freedom of the press from governmental interference under the First Amendment does not sanction repression of that freedom by private interests.

    But corporate media can be part of the solution if they walk their talk:

    The commercial press is the most well-known promoter of campaign reforms to get money out of politics. Among reasons given is the need to level the playing field for challengers.

    Since the only thing campaigns produce is information for public distribution and the cost of distribution is the origin of much of the need for money in politics, why don’t the commercial media offer to publish and broadcast candidate and issue ads for free?

    Not likely: there is speculation Obama may raise a billion dollars and Republicans 750 million. Campaign season is Christmas for media corporations.

    The corporate method of organization is not going to be banned any time soon. People work in corporations. They invest in them or own them (most are small). Interest groups, from the ACLU to the NRA to DownsizeDC.org, are all corporations too. The persons in these groups have interests, and particularly in the non-profit sector, it’s a method for organizing the so-called 99% so they can pool their resources and be sure they are heard.

    • r.p.

      A good bit of info here Michael. Might be a good candidate for PLD’s Speak Out column. A little bit long though for those with ADDS.

  • Capitalist at Birth

    Since most of the people reading these articles are Paulbots, it is a waste of any thinking person with an IQ of at least 120 to continue to read the articles or the posts from readers, as they all have blinders on regarding Ron Paul. If by chance Ron Paul were to get the nomination, which is highly unlikely, it will be one of the biggest landslide defeats in history for the Republican Party.

    • Lost in Paradise

      Where do you get off calling anyone a Paulbot? Who do think you are to suggest anyone supporting Ron Paul has less than desirable I.Q.? I would say if anything, YOU ARE A DEMOBOT, trying to act intelligent, but not doing so well at it. F you Buttwipe! LMAO

      • Capitalist at Birth

        Sticks and bones will break my bones but words will never hurt me. I am a Republican formerly a Libertarian. My IQ is North of 145. Name calling accomplishes very little. I did not insinuate that all of the Ron Paul fanatics did not have any lack of IQ.

        • Capitalist at Birth

          If the shoe fits, wear it. Are you a Paulbot, or not?

        • eddie47d

          For all your “intelligence” Capitalist your aren’t very smart!

        • mickey

          lol Capitalist, I have 3 sons, IQ’s about 160. One very conservative, one sort of in between, the last very liberal. However, given this election I think all will come together for Ron Paul, a common cause.

          • Millicent

            LOL Ron Paul is toast.

          • http://deleted Claire

            And if the Republicans have any sense at all, Newt will be toast.

    • Alex Frazier

      Why say such a crappy thing? Are you a Romneybot, a Newtbot, a Perrybot? We show strong support for a candidate we believe in. That’s all. And frankly, anyone educated in some of these issues would know beyond a shadow of a doubt that he’s the only one we should be voting for.

      If for no other reason than for the fact that he follows the constitution! If he screwed up everything else, he at least won’t be trying to subtly oppress the people of the United States by robbing them of their freedom right under their nose.

      George W. is noted as having called the constitution “a ‘god-damned’ piece of paper” that people should “stop throwing in his face.” He signed the Patriot Act into law, which abridges our fourth amendment right to be secure in our persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches. The right shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause … describing the place to be searched.

      Newt, Bachman, and Santorum all voted for it. Newt and Romney want to make it worse than it already is.

      Obama, before he was even in office, was trying to institute a mandatory community service work program for teenagers in violation of the 13th amendment, which states that involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime …, shall exist within the United States.”

      Obama has pushed for gun control, when the second amendment says that the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.

      The list from various presidents from both sides on a number of issues can be made almost indefinitely. They’re all betrayers of the public trust. Except one.

      And on that merit alone Ron Paul deserves a little respect, and hopefully some consideration from the anti-Paulbots.

      I don’t know about you, but I’m sick and tired of watching my rights get eroded little by little. I’ve actually lost sleep on occassion wondering how I was going to handle the situation when they finally came for my guns, thinking about whether or not I was ready to die for the cause of liberty (because that’s what resistance will mean when they come for your guns; not kill or be killed, but resist and be killed, whether you kill some of them first or not).

      If we can’t stop the erosion process, and hopefully reverse some of the damage, it’s just a matter of time before we won’t have the right to fight for our rights, politically or otherwise.

      • Capitalist at Birth

        I haven’t made up my mind completely who I will vote for in the Missouri primary just yet. I originally hoped that Governor Palin would run. In the interim, I found qualities in most of the candidates that I admire, and positions I agree with, including Gingrich, Bachmann, Santorum, and Paul. I do find fault with some of the positions of all of them. In the final analysis I believe that the ultimate goal should be the defeat of Marxism/Nazzism etc. above any desire to lodge a protest vote for a candidate that does not have a chance of getting elected in the general election.

        • Capitalist at Birth

          PA. I really do enjoy getting all the Paulbots blood pressure and dander up. I will be going now as I have many more important things to do today.

        • Millicent

          Thank you for a reasonable post.

        • r.p.

          Capitalist at Birth:
          You said:
          “In the final analysis I believe that the ultimate goal should be the defeat of Marxism/Nazzism etc.”
          If you truly believe what you say, then Ron Paul IS the only choice. ALL of the other candidates are cut form the same Obama cloth. ie: Marxism/Socialism. When you compromise with tyranny , tyranny wins.

      • r.p.

        Alex F:
        Don’t say “George W.”. Some people here will get it confused with one of our founding fathers and really get their history mixed up. Say…”Geedubbya”.

        • r.p.

          And he didn’t use the Lord’s name when refering to that piece of paper. He used “f##k’n”

          • Alex Frazier

            That’s not what I read, but I’ll go along. I’d rather repeat it without that particular phrase anyway.

            And good point on the George W. thing. It didn’t occur to me until you pointed it out.

    • steve in AZ

      Wrong again, eraser-breath.

      DONATE NOW so we can VOTE RON PAUL 2012!!!

    • Millicent

      Thank you for an intelligent comment. You cannot reason with RP supporters. They are as petulant as RP is.

    • Bleh

      Capitalist at Birth – “If by chance Ron Paul were to get the nomination, which is highly unlikely, it will be one of the biggest landslide defeats in history for the Republican Party.”
      Ignoring your claptrap prior to the quote above I would simply like to point out that you have not been paying attention. Obama made many promises he did not deliver that Ron Paul does make and has a proven record standing behind him whereas Obama’s reads as complete and abject failure on a good share of his promises. This gives Ron Paul immediate appeal to many of Obama’s voting base and gives him a better chance at beating Obama than any other candidate…

  • just me

    Mirage, I’m also an old one, and I really don’t put up with being called stupid…..
    You freakin idiot, you honestly buy that crap that the Repubs are the party of the rich? Then explain why Obama is getting $35k a plate at his fund raisers.
    You braindead little putz, explain why he’s siphoning off BILLIONS to his buddies, like Solyndra.
    And hey, Sh*t For Brains, did you happen to watch Jon Corzine yesterday on CSPAN BEFORE the transmission was cut off?
    Last, and far from least, you total dumbazz, have ya seen the latest on Fast and Furious?

    • Lost in Paradise

      Aman just me! I like your attitude.

    • JUKEBOX

      I honestly thought Corzine was going to say that some kind of critters must have eaten that 1.2 Billion. Holder don’t have clue about the difference between lying to Congress, and giving them the wrong information. This is as incompetent as Obama.

  • DJ Katie of Miami

    Fantastic article! The truth has no agenda. I hope it is read by as many & passed around to even more who are totally clueless as to how these polls work & the media’s emphasis on them. Also needed to be mentioned are that the only two “insiders” in the Senate & the House currently in office that have “not” traded stocks or bonds or taken IPO opportunities with knowledge of inside info are Michelle Bachman & Ron Paul. The only two! Both of them should be highlighted more by the media as well as their consistancy without “flipfloping ” in their past actions or stances on the issues.

    • mickey

      Yeah, I read that Michele opted out of that one. to her credit. Otherwise, more bombing, more pre-emptive stuff, don’t like that so much.

  • Tim

    I WOULD LIKE TO SEE SOMEONE PUBLISH A LIST OF THE NATIONS STATE DELEGATES , SINCE THEY TELL AMERICA WHO WE ARE ” ALLOWED ” TO VOTE FOR . MITT ROMNEY SAID IN 1 ST I O W A STRAW VOTE , HE IS NOT CONCERNED WITH THE PEOPLES CHOICE VOTE . HE WANTS THE STATE DELEGATE VOTES . I NEED TO KNOW WHO THAT IS , SO I CAN ” TELL ” THEM WHO I WANT . ….I HOPE TO SEE MR. PAUL AND MR. PERRY TEAM UP . My name is T i m

    • mickey

      hmmm maybe that is the Electoral College, based on population, which illegals are in the picture.

  • Old Henry

    Cain?? Nothing more than trash for cash – as the democraps would say. I’m guessing they drug a $f100 bill around a triler park to find these trashy women.

    • Lost in Paradise

      Haha! I think a $50 would do it just fine.

  • David Macfarlane

    Alex, you are wrong, we do control the media, by use of the on/off switch, subscriptions, etc. But by not using these controls, the media controls us.

  • Lost in Paradise

    I hope all of you patriots are gathering supplies, and weapons to use if Obama is elected for another term. If he is re-elected, pick up your guns, ammo, pitchfork, shovel,tire iron, baseball bat, whatever you feel commfy with, because there is a revolution bruing that no government can stop. It will however stop this government dead in its tracks.

    • eddie47d

      You may be more of a spiteful revolutionary than a patriot!

      • mickey

        Eddie, I think the vote on NDAA says it all. Only 7 stood up for us? Something is in the mist and it is better to be prepared, even if it doesn’t happen.

      • eddie47d

        Another case where they didn’t read the bill or didn’t understand the consequences Mickey.

  • Robert Morrow

    This about the news media, which is totally corrupt and a total lost of morally. Just why anyone would believe anything that the News Media writes or voices is beyond me. I have not believe the New Media and their Promt Readers in over 50 years. I have seen and heard them totally lie over and over again from the larges to smallest. Now with the computer internet is make it easier to obtain what is nearer to the truth. But, it does take a little work and I find that most of the citizens find that it to much trouble. One way to get the Rebublic back on track is get rid of the Commissar(petty bureacrats) that rule the Shadow Governments without any controls. Shadow Government like the EPA,FDA(murder for Profit Inc.)Labor Relation Board which by degree rules and destory JOBS, Federal Board of (Propaganda) education, & the list goes on and on. All these are support by your Corrupt Elected Officials and the News Media. Take care Citizen as we have now become the Socialist State of America.

  • Wyatt

    So the media doesn’t think the American public is smart enough to select a President . Well , we can all see what we got when the so called intelligent people of the media selected our last President . A totally in competent and egotistical moron who seems to think that a President governs by edict of whim . Liberal , leftist and closet Marxists control the mainstream media to the point that we as an American Nation and people are being slowly brainwashed .
    The media in essence has only one job , and that is to report the news , unbiased and accurately based on the facts that are known and not inferred of surmised . It seems though that to many media barons have chosen to emulate Randolph Hurst and control public opinion by sensationalizing stories and telling the public what they should believe and who they should vote for . Most Americans are quite capable of choosing the right and wrong of a subject . And if not , then they shouldn’t be voting as either they are mentally incompetent or they are not citizens legal or otherwise . And those in the otherwise classification have no business being at the voting booth anyway .
    This is The United States of America , an American Nation ! Not the Mainstream Media Nation or the Illegal Immigrant , or FZresh off the Boat Nation . People had better wake up or they will soon find themselves in new communist nation of Obama

    • Cawmun Cents

      You have been fooled by an elaborate ruse.
      The truth gets omitted,and you get the shaft.
      There is one way to fix this mess,but you wont see it.
      Put God back in His rightful place as our Creator in Chief.

      Good luck America if you choose to ignore this piece of advise.
      -CC.

      • Lost in Paradise

        YOu speak the truth, and lots of common sense.

  • Bob Marshall

    It is not about being smart enough, it is about not bothering to do the needed research on each candidate or the candidate of their choice. Too many just read or listen to a small amount of information and form an opinion. I dare say, not many in America realize what is happening in Africa today.Only what the corporate controlled news media want you to know.the government had rather everyone spend their time of facebook and twitter instead of researching.The most powerful tool the citizens have is the internet but million don’t seem to be taking advantage of the facts and information available.We are losing our country because of ignorance and in many cases denial. America needs more patriots and less loyalist.The more research i do the more i realize there are freedoms and liberties we will never get back. It is a tragedy that the citizens of America didn’t heed the warnings and read the quotes from our founders.If studying the Constitution and the Bill of Rights had been required reading in our schools maybe we would have been more aware of what was happening in our government.” If a nation expects to be ignorant and free in a state of civilization, it expects what never was and never will be…if we are to guard against ignorance and remain free, it is the responsibility of every citizen to be informed. Thomas Jefferson. Have we failed in our responsibility to our country, not our government? Once the government worked for the people. Today the people work for the government.

    • Kim

      Well said.

  • 2WarAbnVet

    The liberal/socialist media and the Republican establishment is working assiduously to select Romney as the Republican candidate. Romney is basically “McCain 2012″, a weak uninspiring nominee. McCain was the media darling until he was chosen to be the Republican candidate. Then he was slimed in every possible way. Surely you recall the sexual harassment and the “not native born” charges. If they succeed in making that “weak-sister”, Romney, the candidate, they’ll start working on him.

  • death to non believers

    are the repubicans sheep, that can be led by every whim of our media, to pick the candidate who is the leader in their polls ? first romney and perry, then bachmann, those 3 have just about dissappeared from media view. santorum doest exist anymore, cain was destroyed, ron paul is dismissed as a nut. now, out of nowhere, we have newt as the great, cant lose republican candidate. does any really believe these polls are true ? how many people her would give their presidential preference response to a phone call ? Zero, thats the answer.
    ignore all polls, pick your own choice, based on past performances of all candidates. choose the most conservative, truth teller, constitutionalist candidate, you will not be sorry. do not just try to pick the winner so you can feel satisfed you voted for the winner who will continue to destroy our country.

    vote your conscience.

  • Cawmun Cents

    In less than four years,our greatest generation found a way to defeat Hitler and Tojo.
    But they could not,in fouryears,piece together a way to defeat Balack Omamba.
    Mainly because they are too comfortable.
    Dont expect that to change until you are swimming in dead bodies.
    -CC.

  • 2centsworth

    The American people are smarter than the “Washington Insiders” think, and what the American people really know, is the candidate that “they” (the news media) won’t give much attention to, is probably the one that is most likely to win public opinion. Because the media is owned by the people who are secretly running the government, and they are brainwashing the people to think what “they” want them to think. It is a listed fact that Romney has been bought off with $400,000,000.00 which is held in a secret Vatican bank account. Did “they” tell you that on the news?? Why not? Because “they” don’t want you to know that. Newt Gingrich has been a consistent chameleon changing parties, flip flopping on issues………how are you going to trust someone with no consistent stand on things and issues? Ron Paul, whom the news media tries extremely hard to keep out of debates, seems to be the candidate who consistently stands on the side of the American people, and not the power elites…..is not bought off by them, and is in fact checking into their dirty dealings with the American public, and how these banksters have in fact been stealing all of our money from us. He is an ethical and an honest man, and it’s time America had someone to tell them the truth AND uphold the constitution of the United States!!!

  • 2centsworth

    Monday, November 28, 2011
    Ron Paul – A President That WILL Uphold His Oath
    IMAGINE – America With A President Who Upholds His Oath To Protect The Constitution Amazing Ron Paul Video!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=xoqY6CpgpSE

    All supporters of Ron Paul voicing their support and reasons why–I’ve typed some of their comments and some of Ron Paul’s below. There are more on this short video.
    Very good video. It is wonderful to see the broad spectrum of support from all ages, walks of life, and even in other countries–all supporting Ron Paul and his message.
    The Ron Paul Revolution!
    Go, Ron!

    “I am an imperfect messenger. But the message is perfect.” Ron Paul
    “Whether you’re white, black, asian, mexican, rich, poor, democrat, liberal, conservative, republican–people are fed up. And it’s time for a change. Ron Paul is the perfect person to lead that change.” (two black mean stated this)
    “He’s the only peace candidate whose actually for ending these wars”
    “We can achieve much more in peace than we can ever achieve in these needless unconstitutional, undeclared wars” Ron Paul
    “he has a voting record that is pristine”
    “…has talked non-stop about how the Federal Reserve has hurt our economy”
    “he’ll tell the truth about the war on drugs”
    “Ron Paul has said the same thing for 30 years. Nobody would listen…”
    “Aggressive wars, income taxes, national IDs, domestic spying, torture regimes, secret prisons, Federal Reserve manipulation—we don’t have to take it any more.” Ron Paul
    “…he has never voted to raise his own congressional income…the man has integrity…”
    During the debates…”not once did Ron Paul point the finger at any individual…” while the other republican candidates did a lot of this
    “All he wants is for America to be the land of freedom…”
    “He’s more than electable. He’s necessary…”
    “He wants us out of the wars. He wants us to be a more sovereign nation. He wants us to be financially responsible. But more importantly, he wants to uproot and change the system.”
    “Believe me, the next step is a currency crisis because there will be a rejection of the dollar…the rejection of the dollar is a big, big event, and then your personal liberties are going to be severely threatened.” Ron Paul
    “…the media won’t talk about Ron Paul. Democrats and Republicans both want you to believe this guy is not a viable candidate. Why, because Ron Paul is the only person whose gonna look out for you. All these other candidates are looking out for themselves and their…party”
    “The freedom message unites us all. It does not divide us.” Ron Paul

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=xoqY6CpgpSE
    Posted by John MacHaffie at 1:52 PM
    3 comments:
    Anonymous said…
    Before you get down on your knees in awe of him write him a letter.
    Ask him if upon being sworn in he will take pen in hand and cancel the thousands of illegal and unconstitutional Presidential Executive orders with the final executive order of his administration to revoke all prior Executive Orders.
    Then ask him if at the same time he will contact the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff and order that all operations under the 1861 Martial Law be ended immediately and that all troops not in combat in legal wars declared by congress be returned to their peace missions.
    Then ask him if he intends to move the Comptroller of the Currency from the Secretary of the Treasury to the Legislative branch as it should be under our Constitution.

    November 28, 2011 3:46 PM
    Anonymous said…
    To Anonymous 3:46: Ron Paul’s answer: yes, yes and yes.

    November 28, 2011 8:17 PM
    Anonymous said…
    To Anonymous I agree with the above Ron Paul will say Yes Yes Yes but the powers to be know that and that is why the NEOCONS will say NO NO NO to his nomination. They will lose too many bribes and kickbacks Ron Paul stands for truth and freedom and that is exactly what politicians hate.

    November 29, 2011 8:19 AM
    found on http://nesaranews.blogspot.com/2011/11/ron-paul-president-that-will-uphold-his.html

  • 2centsworth

    The American people are smarter than the “Washington Insiders” think, and what the American people really know, is the candidate that “they” (the news media) won’t give much attention to, is probably the one that is most likely to win public opinion. Because the media is owned by the people who are secretly running the government, and they are brainwashing the people to think what “they” want them to think. It is a listed fact that Romney has been bought off with $400,000,000.00 which is held in a secret Vatican bank account. Did “they” tell you that on the news?? Why not? http://nesaranews.blogspot.com/2011/11/romney-biggest-heist-in-history-400.html Because “they” don’t want you to know that. Newt Gingrich has been a consistent chameleon changing parties, flip flopping on issues………how are you going to trust someone with no consistent stand on things and issues? Ron Paul, whom the news media tries extremely hard to keep out of debates, seems to be the candidate who consistently stands on the side of the American people, and not the power elites…..is not bought off by them, and is in fact checking into their dirty dealings with the American public, and how these banksters have in fact been stealing all of our money from us. He is an ethical and an honest man, and it’s time America had someone to tell them the truth AND uphold the constitution of the United States!!!

  • Debbie

    Thanks for a great article. I found it interesting that, listed among those political insiders polled by the National Journal, are “local elected officials and interest-group leaders from both the Democratic Party and the GOP.” I fail to see why insiders from the Democratic party should have any input regarding who will be the Republican nominee. That seems like a conflict of interest to me. Why would a Democrat want to give an honest opinion as to who they think would be most likely to beat their own candidate?

    It’s time to put an end to the beauty pageants and popularity contests. We need to choose our elected officials based on their policies and voting records, not personality or ability to do a snow job on the voters. While I think that most people who post to these forums have a grain of intelligence and some ability to think for themselves, I don’t have the same confidence in the general public.

    I only hope that, at least for the primaries, the majority of voters will put aside any predictions of who the media pundits say is most likely to win, do their own independent research, and vote for the person they think would make the best president to get us out of the mess we are currently in. Otherwise, I fear that we are doomed as a free nation.

  • Average Joe

    Well I guess if the media thinks I’m too dumb to pick my own candidate through due dilligence, then I guess I’m too dumb to listen to them…guess I’ll have to vote for …..

    Ron Paul/Andrew Napolitano 2012!!!

    (as if there was another choice)

    There are risks and costs to action. But they are far less than the long range risks of comfortable inaction.
    John F. Kennedy

    Things do not happen. Things are made to happen.
    John F. Kennedy

    Ron Paul/Andrew Napolitano 2012!!!

  • 2centsworth

    It’s amazing how the secret government only tells you what they want to color your mind with. There is so much more to life than hollywood movies (to control you, and how “they” want you to think) and it extends it’s hand into American elections of Presidents. They can come up with any kind of scandal on you to eliminate you from the positiion you are vying for such as they did Cain. The court of public opinion definitely matters and they know it. “They” want to maintain control of who you vote for through their media portrayals of the candidates. Why don’t they tell you the truth? They want you to know the truth….simple as that! You’ll have to get off your one-track, and do some checking for yourself…..suggestion: http://nesaranews.blogspot.com/2011/11/romney-biggest-heist-in-history-400.html

  • Eric Bischoff

    It is sad that the only guy that has a couple of good ideas, like get rid of the Fed and end wars, is Ron Paul and Americans will snub him like they snubbed Ross Perrot, Ralph Nader, and many past candidates that would all have set us on a better course.

    I heard Jesse Ventura the other day give Ron Paul a challenge. Leave the Republican Party and I’ll run with you as an independent. I’d vote for that ticket.

  • Eric Bischoff

    It’s never a good idea to insult your audience but then again as a country, and I realize that there is very little voter participation, we did vote in Nixon, Reagan, and the Bushes! so what does that really say about our intelligence.

    • r.p.

      Hear hear good man! Well said!!

    • Millicent

      Reagan was a great President. I didn’t follow the Bushes so I cannot comment on them.

      • r.p.

        Reagan was an idiot. Ask Ron Paul about reagan, or just study his history as pres.

        • Millicent

          Ask an idiot moron like Ron Paul about Reagan? Sorry I think not.

      • newspooner

        I met Ron Paul 2 years before I met Ronald Reagan. Both were instantly personable. I liked Ronald Reagan, the man, very much. We had some good discussions. In 1980 when he was running for President, he personally promised me that he would get rid of the Department of Education. He didn’t, because he was controlled by bad people in the Republican Party, and he might not have even understood that. Ron Paul has also promised me that he will get rid of the Department of Education if he gets elected President. I do not have the slightest doubt of him keeping that promise. He is not controlled by the kind of people who controlled Reagan.

        If Republicans do not nominate and support Ron Paul for President, I believe that the future of liberty is almost certainly extinguishment.

  • DLee

    Judging from the candidates that the Republican party has come up with, it would probably be a good idea to let someone else– pretty much anyone else— help them out.

  • Patti

    My suggestion: go to a TEA PARTY meeting. Those are everyday folks working on the issues at hand. Media is trying to say they are temporary – but they aren’t. Obama says they’re “terrorists”, but its full of the mom & pop business people, housewives, teachers, YOUR neighbors – all tired of this political screwing.

    • rebecca

      HOWEVER,IT IS BEING SAID THAT THE TEAPARTY HAS BEEN HIJACKED BY THE REPUBLICANS!

      • r.p.

        You are right. Ron Paul has said as much, and he was the reason for the original T.P. movement.

        • Millicent

          Ron Paul had nothing to do with establishing the TP movement. Ask them and they will tell you. Most people in the TP that I have spoken to thing RP is a loser.

          • r.p.

            You don’t know your history very well. The Tea Party movement was started by Ron Paul supporters. When the RINOS and NEOCONS franchised it the R.P. supporters started the C4L action committee.
            Go here and discover something new:
            http://www.campaignforliberty.com/

            Live Long And Perspire: r.p.

    • Millicent

      The TP has not picked anyone yet to support. Most TP people realize what afool RP is. Of course RP people have hijacked many threads and are as usual an irritant.

      • r.p.

        That’s cause they already have Newt and Mitt. They’re NEOCONS

  • http://moniquer7 Merlin

    The news media can not be trusted. One can not believe most of what is printed. As a whole the news media has it’s own agenda. and yes they think that they are smarter than we are and therefore they must do our thinking for us. It is similar to the main line democrat position that the average citizen is no capable of taking care of themselves, so the government must do it for them. Well, I for one do not want anyone doing my thinking for me or taking care of me.

  • Marlene

    Back in the 60′s, I was listening to Chet Huntley and David Brinkley report on the incoming election results. Huntley was bemoaning the fact that the East Coast had to wait for the full election results until all of the Western votes were counted because – get this – the voters on the West Coast are just backwoods hillbillies and not smart enough to vote. That’s when I knew how biased the media is and how they hold their so-called intelligence above that of anyone else. I’ve never voted the way they tell me to, anymore than I did when the Teamsters’ Union I belonged to would tell it’s membership to vote straight Democrat. Voting against those two elemants was a darned good rule of thumb and I stick to that rule even now that I’ve reached the 3/4 century mark.

    • mickey

      The last election Cook County (chicao) votes were barely in when less than 5 minutes later CA went for obama.

  • Ben

    If the media thinks they are smarter then we are, boy do they have it wrong. The general public has go more brains in their combined little finger then the whole bunch of talking heads and their friend.

    I read I study and what I don’t know I look up in four or five different locations to be sure the facts are right. I don’t buy the local paper nor do I bother to watch the news but I do know what is going on in the U.S. and the World and can probably write about it if I had do. Just like the media does when they report on something in Russia and they are and have been here in the U.S. all along.

  • rebecca

    I WILL VOTE FOR RON PAUL BEFORE THOSE OTHER TWO PEAS IN A POD!!!

    • Millicent

      Thank you so much for helping to keep a Communist in the White House,

      • r.p.

        C’mon Millicent: Do you know what a communist is?

        • Millicent

          The question is, do you? Ron Paul is a loser, get over it and support the nominee so we can get rid of the Commie Kenayan Obama

          • r.p.

            “Get over it and support the one I tell you to support”. Does that sound Petulant?

          • r.p.

            You are presuming I suppose that we already have a nominee?

  • el anciano

    For many years I have depended on the liberal news media to decide on the candidate I will support and vote for.
    If the candidate is conservative, their top choice will be the one they think will be easiest for the liberal candidate to beat, the lowest on their list will be the candidate they fear most, and that candidate will be my first choice.

  • Gregory B

    These “insiders”, “experts”, the media, the “who knows how reliable they are?” polls, are like a leviathan-sized Goliath. Ron Paul is like the stone from David’s sling that will strike Goliath in the head and make him fall flat on his face.

    If the people who support Obama’s irresponsibly destructive behavior are FOR Romeny and AGAINST Ron Paul, then the message is clear: Vote for Ron Paul. Do the opposite of what they say and think the opposite of what they tell you is true.

    There was a time in America where voters thought for themselves, took voting seriously and made educated decisions when it came to casting their ballots — it was before they made the mistake of trusting the d*mn media.

    • Millicent

      Ron Paul is more like a piece of sand that will be washed away with the next high tide.

      • Bleh

        You just confirmed what Gregory stated. No longer do voters like you cast ballots with educated decisions.

    • 2centsworth

      Gregory B- I like what you said. I just found out that Ron Paul is a mason, and you know secret societies aren’t good, because they have an “Agenda” to put everyone to work on. Don’t get me wrong…if it was to the “Greater Good” of all Americans it would probably be the best solution, however, usually their Agenda is to the good of an elite few, and to the detriment of the rest of the people. That’s why they are polluting our food and water, and air….example: GMOs, Chemtrails, Chemicals,etc. For in depth info on gmo’s see http://www.livehealthyforless.com Any ways, what I mostly agree with you on is this….They talk double speak, which means when they say yes, they really mean no, and when they say white, they mean black, etc. What they say, and what they will do will be 2 different things. I believe this is a known in the masons. (No wonder politicians will say anything to get elected, and do the opposite) These elite are all negative (little) people spiritually, and all they are doing is ruining God’s creation….and this WILL be stopped!

      • http://deleted Claire

        My husband is a Mason. He has been a Mason for over 50 years. I can truthfully say he is not involved in any underhanded shenanigans.

  • Mary

    Anyone who pays attention to “the polls” and fails to do PERSONAL research regarding any particular candidate deserves to be fooled. Don’t be so gullible. If you are reading this I assume you are on the Internet and have access to a computer. It is your DUTY to research any candidate’s record and personal data before considering a vote for that person.

  • Mac

    Commenting just on the headline- I haven’t read the article yet- that statement by itself is really true; if Obama won the last election it is certainly true that the majority of voters are NOT smart enough to pick a good president.

    But then the Media is not smart enough either, considering that they want to keep doing what the current president has been doing.

  • Millicent

    Newt Gingrich has supported a federal marriage amendment and has offered innovative solutions for the Supreme Court’s tendency to usurp its own authority by inventing new constitutional rights on abortion and marriage.

    Ron Paul’s position on marriage, by contrast, is increasingly incomprehensible. One the one hand he’s for “traditional marriage”; on the other hand he’s for abolishing marriage as a legal status altogether. The one thing he’s been clear about is that even though gay-marriage activists are now in court asking the Supreme Court to impose gay marriage on all 50 states—he won’t support a federal marriage amendment. I do not understand how that is a coherent “leave it to the states” position.

    • r.p.

      Judging from your statements in these posts, it seems: 1. You are misinformed or: 2. You are intentionally trying to deceive. May I suggest you just try and Google “Newt Gingrich”, and then “Ron Paul” and see what you get. Yes you might have to swim through a lot of data, but eventually you will hopefully begin to see through the lies. If you really want to fire up yer rockets, type in “Scandal”, or “Corruption” after those names and you will find another surprise. Ron Paul talking about those things in our government, Newt Gingrich defending himself against those things. Or just type in “flip-flop and see what you get. Samuel Clemens once said: “If you don’t know anything about your representatives, you are uninformed. If what you know about your representatives you received from the major newspapers you are misinformed.” (You do know who he was don’t you?). That statement is over a hundred years old, so you see what your up against?
      There has been many good people on PLD’s site who are eager to provide information you would need to help you vette the candidates, some good, some not so good. Mr. Livingston has occasionally provided links not just to support his stories but to help his readers get the facts. Go ahead,,, click on a link, don’t be afraid. Knowledge is the name of the game.

      I hope I wasn’t being to petulant here.

      Live Long And Perspire: r.p.

      • Millicent

        Ron Paul an (offensive words removed).

        • Average Joe

          Millicent (Millitant?)… you’re a troll we can ignore.Please take time to find your bridge to live under….your bridge misses you…..

          • r.p.

            At least with twocentsworth, you get your twocentsworth. Now we see what you get with a millicent.

        • http://deleted Claire

          Ron Paul an a–h— you can believe in? What about Newt? He pushed for Clinton’s impeachment in 1998 when he was doing the same damn thing only in a “different way.” Cain was ousted because of his sexual escapades. So I assume it is okay with you for some candidates to have their shabby trysts and others cannot? Double standard here. In 1997 Newt was reprimanded by the House. He had to pay a $300,000 fine for violating tax law and lying about it to the House Ethics Committee. Newt is NOT the person some people think he is. I don’t trust him, never have and I never will. With him is it “Do as I say, not as I do.” I cannot visualize him as an honest and forthright leader. Some people say they are ashamed of Obama, well, I sure would be ashamed of Newt. If it comes down to Newt and Ron Paul, I would vote for Ron Paul in a heartbeat.

          • http://deleted Claire

            I will also add that a person’s personal life is just that–their personal life—however, when I vote for a president of the United States, I take everything about that person into consideration. I call this “character.” If they lie and carry on in their personal life and public life, to me this is not an honest candidate. If they lie about one thing they sure as hell will lie about other things.

          • libertytrain

            I agree with both of these posts Claire – personal life, in my experience, certainly is part of one’s character…

  • http://www.servandogonzalez.org Servando Gonzalez

    Everything Mr. Rolley mentions is true. There something very important, however, that needs to be emphasized. What he terms “the media” in abstract is actually a group of mainstream meadia outlets mostly owned, directly or indirectly, by Wall Street bankers, oil magnates and CEOs transnational corporations agglutinated at the Council on Foreign Relations. These people, and not the abstract “media,” are the members of the invisible goverment of the U.S. who have been electing the presidents since Wilson’s times and will elect the next one unless gullible Americans wake up from their media-induced dream (or nightmare!).

    Servando Gonzalez, author of Psychological Warfare and the New World Order: The Secret War Against the American People.

  • raw

    the nation has a more wicked agenda up its sleeve – it doesn’t matter who wins, both sides are part of it…they may go about it differently, but we’re going to end up in the same place, eventually.

  • Shivertothink

    … “More than half of the “insiders” said that Americans are too ignorant to understand issues”…

    Insiders, my big Butt! These ‘insiders’ know this because nothing said in the media OR in debates even comes close to the ‘issues’.. Pull down the wall, become more honest and transparent WITH the issues and there won’t be one jack of us who will be twiddlin’ their brain pan.. In school we were all ignorant when it came to science or history or even math and spelling, but once we were taught in terms that WASN’T beating around the bush, we learned and we learned very good.. QUIT BEATING AROUND THE BUSH!!

  • Millicent

    The Truth About Ron Paul: Delusional, Power-Hungry and Dangerous

    Interviewed on Neal Cavuto’s Fox News show this afternoon, GOP presidential candidate Rep. Ron Paul claimed that “a third of the crowd was with me last night [at the debate] and more than a third of the country is with my ideas.”

    Really?

    So a third of the country agrees with:

    • A man who claims that bloodthirsty Islamist terrorists are morally equivalent to Americans?

    • A man who vocally encourages the despicable 9/11 Truther movement?

    • A man who embraces virulent anti-semites and is inspired by those who despise Jews?

    • A man whose foreign policy prescriptions are so “far left” that they are outright dangerous?

    • A man whose strongest supporters vilify Ronald Reagan, William F. Buckley, Antonin Scalia, Clarence Thomas, Ed Meese, Sarah Palin, etc.?

    • A man who despises Israel, a beacon of freedom in an otherwise barbaric Middle East?

    • A man so power-hungry that he refuses to rule out a third-party run, which would very likely help reelect Barack Obama?

    Jeffrey Lord offers the quintessential summary of Ron Paul for conservatives:

    The Ron Paul campaign is really about re-educating America to what can only be called Neoliberalism. Which, based on the evidence and writings of its supporters, appears to be a thin gruel of free markets and non-interventionism seasoned heavily with anti-Semitism, morally obtuse Neo-Confederates, and an outspoken contempt for both conservatism and conservative leaders past and present.

    Labels: Democrats, extremism, Paul, War, World

    • libertytrain

      I’m becoming more and more certain that Millicent is either working for Obama or maybe Newt to eliminate Ron Paul – just by using ignorant posts that she/they have created. What a goofy woman… go figure…

      • Millicent

        My only interest is letting RP supporters face the truth about RP. As far as getting him out of the race, he has a much chance as a snowball in hell of getting the nomination. However, his fanatical followers will send in write ins or not vote at all. That is a vote for the Kenyan Communist to retain power. Grow up and use the brains you were born with.

        • http://deleted Claire

          Millicent– Judging by your posts, I think it is time you grew up and use the brains you were born with. I will say this–libertytrain has more brains in her little finger than you will ever have in a lifetime.

          • Millicent

            Sorry if you cannot face the truth about Paul. Very sad that people like you will help Obama retain power and lead us into a dictatorship.Click on the link I left in regard his voting record. I’ll bet you won’t. You won’t because you don’t want the truth you just want the bs that Paul is spewing. I pity you. I really pity me because I will have to live with the destruction of Obama because of people like you and Obama supporters.

          • http://deleted Claire

            And I am sorry you cannot face the truth about Newt.

          • libertytrain

            Claire she’s not worth our time. Obviously not dealing with a full deck.

        • r.p.

          I’ve been facing the truth long before I casted my first vote in 1967. That is one reason I support Dr. Paul. I’ve been confronted by people like you before Dr. Paul, and it will probably continue untill I die. I’m sure many other R.P. supporters have experienced likewise.

    • r.p.

      Neil Cavito!!!! WOW. what a champion of truth on a network of lies…

  • Millicent

    The Ron Paul Voting Record
    February 9, 2010

    The thing about being a career politician is that you have the voting record of a career politician. And what you find may surprise you more than the fact that a man who believes in term limits refuses to step down. So I will go over some of these votes of Ron Paul and to do so I will break them up into categories. The first is abortion.

    Abortion

    (excessive length post removed – please supply a link in place of excessive length post)

  • http://deleted Claire

    Delusional, power hungry, and dangerous? Gosh, these words kinda describe Newt, don’t you think???

    • Millicent

      Did you bother to click on the link for Paul’s voting record? I bet not.

      • r.p.

        Yes, I went to the site you posted. Apparently you didn’t read the whole posting either. It implies nothing more than another persons opinion. Remarkably a major part of this article supports Ron Paul’s platform, albeit I’m sure it wasn’t intentional. That person apparently didn’t even have the Conejos to attach his/her name to this article. Also this person didn’t even provide any links or facts to support his/her claims. This site is also a “Bible Thumpers” site, so take that into consideration. He/she did provide links to the candidates he/she supported though. In essence this article has nothing to do with Dr. Paul’s voting record. It is good though, that you are taking the time to sift through the plethora of information provided on the internet. Just remember that data does not equal facts.

        Enjoy your journey!!

        Live Long And Perspire: r.p.

        • Millicent

          The article clearly lists his voting record. Too bad you are so blinded by the idiot Paul you cannot face the truth. Well, thank God he’ll be out of the picture in a few more weeks.

          • r.p.

            What list? Where? All I saw were a bunch of opinionated rants. No list is there and there is nothing to connect the dots. Now…Click your heels together three times and keep saying to yourself “It’s the truth, it’s the truth, it’s the truth….. Where did I put my magic wand……

          • http://deleted Claire

            It could very well be that Newt will be out of the picture in a few weeks, If not, then we will continue to have the same old garbage in the White House if he is elected POTUS.

      • http://deleted Claire

        Information on the Internet is not always the “facts.” I have noticed that the majority are either right-wing or left-wing. Hence, I read and take it worth a grain of salt. I will and do find my information from other reliable sources. I want ubiased information, not someone’s radical opinions/rants.

        • r.p.

          You couldn’t be more correct Claire. You have to have your critical thinking skills honed in to get past the diatribe one so often finds on the internet. If an article or topic doesn’t provide links to support or present facts to support the issue in reference, which allows me to do the cross referencing needed, then I consider the article with suspicion. That’s why I enjoy coming to this site for the abundance of information provided by it’s readers and writers. I find it hard to pass up a link provided whether I agree with them or not. Plus I enjoy reading the posts!!

          Live Long And Perspire: r.p.

        • Millicent

          The individual clearly listed the bills and how phoney RP voted on them. Wake up and smell the coffee, Ron Paul is a dangerous man and will sit back while the Islamists attack us. Believe me they will whether you like to stick your head in the sand like all Paul supporters do or not.

          • http://deleted Claire

            The islams will attack irregardless of who is president. They do not care who is in the White House. They hate America and all Americans—-white, black, left-wing, right-wing. At any given time, they will strike if they deem it beneficial. They will attack when we least expect it. There are subversive groups here in the U.S. that are of the same caliber.

  • alexa

    too many fringe parties to have a good conservative alternative. if the constitution, libertarian, conservative and other parties could combine into a good conservative alternative, it could make inroads.

    other possibility is to take over the republican party in the same manner as the socialists did with the democratic party, from the top and the bottom.

    time to use new tactics other than complain…

  • r.p.

    For those of you who are interested in where Obama got his “57 States”, here is an excerpt from The NewAmerican Written by James Heiser posted on Dec.9, 2011@17:21, which might explain it:

    • r.p.

      “The Organisation of Islamic Cooperation (OIC) (formerly Organization of the Islamic Conference) is the second largest inter-governmental organization after the United Nations which has membership of 57 states spread over four continents. The Organization is the collective voice of the Muslim world and ensuring to safeguard and protect the interests of the Muslim world in the spirit of promoting international peace and harmony among various people of the world.”

  • James

    If the Republicans don’t want to lose in a landslide, they need to quit touting people like Rick “Can’t Remember the Third Thing” Perry, Herman “Grab Ass” Cain, Michelle “I’m a Saint” Bachmann, Newt “Family Values” Gingrich, and Mitt “I Can’t Get Enough Money from the Health Insurance Companies” Romney. We are SICK of people like these, and I’ll just sit at home and NOT vote if I cannot be offered a better choice than Obama!

  • James

    Oh, I forgot Ron “Let Them Die on the Hospital Steps” Paulson!

  • http://gillysrooms.blogspot.com GILLYSROOMS from AUSTRALIA

    From my own political experience living under the Murdoch Empire…his editors can break you with fictional stories and without any real power to reach the voting masses…you become dead in the water. Unfortunately many voters either believe the stories or get a seed of doubt planted in their minds which destroys any possibility of success. On other hand, if your well connected and can hand their interests some favourable policy changes then their candidate gets less negative stories. The mainstream mediacan build up a candidate to great heights if he has a public persona which seems credible…as long as he great acting skills Hollywood style then his chances are greatly enhanced. A bit like media ratings…the higher they go up the better chance of an Oscar or Academy Award or becoming President. I suspect that OBAMA was able to enlist a greater number of the usual non voters in your no obligation voting system which he was able to do with his great oratory skills…he was and still is believable but he also needs more non voters to vote for him again and I;, sure he has already won some of the former non believers in your Republican Party supporters.. It will be a great contest which ever way it goes…

    Try see if your former Donald Trump candidate would really agree with promoting Republican policies of ruducing credit and debt when his own empire is built on Peter robbing to pay Paul…thats how the house of real estate [cards]fortunes are being made, but Republican policies would see people like Trump go broke. In my opinion he pretends to be a Republican attacking OBAMA whose policies are making him even richer. Credit contraction will destroy Trump…. Cant you people see how fake many of your Republicans and Candidates real are?

    People like Trump want all the benefits of free and easy credit to make their fortunes but not contribute anything to taxation to pay for the government policies which are making them wealthy in the first place. They are seen to be so clever and so smart at creating wealth as DaveH espouses so often, yet the wealth is illusory and lost so easily if Republican policies were really implemented.

    Some other people are so clever at using slave cheap asian labour to make and import goods to be sold at high prices to you Americans and us Australians paying in lost jobs and lost dollars to smarter Asians who then use those dollars to buy your and our lands at cheap prices.

    We complain about Asian exporters under cutting locals when in fact it is your own smarties who are selling you out. The real patriots are those who would invest their money in local industries employing local people and taking the risk that those same employees will buy from local factories and businesses, yet in reality the wealthier ‘WHITE’ world has gone and lost by its own hand. Everyone wants and buys cheaper goods from imports while very few support local industry except your government, although I bet they also import cheaper components from foriegn lands to build their military hardware?

    Theory is good to want but its what the money spenders and voters do with their money and their politicians who really call the shots. I enjoy the debate and people responding calling me anything they wish to call me, but reality is self evident throughout the WEST WHITE world.

  • http://gillysrooms.blogspot.com GILLYSROOMS from AUSTRALIA

    I FOUND THIS INTERESTING QUOTE TO SHARE WITH YOUR READERS

    Quote Of The Day

    “A man’s real and deep feelings are surely those which he acts upon when challenged, not those which, mellow-eyed and soft-voiced, he spouts in easy times.”
    -Sarah Patton Boyle

  • Lawrence Ekdahl

    Ron Paul is the only honest conservative who speaks the truth. The trouble is the american people don’t want to hear either the truth or an honest man.

  • Emanuel

    The Republican and the Democratic Party must both still think we are dumb as hell. They way they talk to us and ignore or purposely misinterpret our political expressions whether it be Wall street occupiers or Tea Party Protestors. Has anyone told them yet we understand they are corrupt and trying to sway us or corner us with candidates they wish to have instead of respecting our intent. The Democratic Party ignores it’s base for the extremists and lobbyists. The Republican party always want the least conservative candidate because they feel their conservative cousins might scare off independents. Scared. To me a moderate republican is uncomfortable with showing their true stripes. Conservatives are just republicans who are proud to patriotic Americans. We really do believe in one nation under God, color blind justice, free markets, and maintaining a strong military. Sorry but why sugar coat it. A moderate republican to me is just a moderate democrat. NO difference. I am tired of being ashamed of being proud of my country. I am tired of the political debate being controlled by Liberals. Who the hell are these people anyway? I say we should be less worried about electability and get real for once. Stick to our principles and eventually they will catch on. White wash them and they will sound as they are, hollow. Mitt is a card board yacht club republican. Ron is a good honest man and I respect much of his politics. But I barely see an executive quality about him. I also have severe doubts about his foreign policy. He is half libertarian and half democrat if you ask me. The only strong and conservative candidate is Newt. Yes he has baggage but most people have long forgiven his past. It isn’t really all that bad. But the one thing I like about him that sets him apart is what moderate republicans don’t like about him, he is a principled conservative willing to stick his head out to actually push this country in a conservative direction. One of the reasons he is scared from the past is because he pissed off a lot of democrats and establishment types who went after him. He is willing to get dirty to lift this country back up as #1. I am just tired of politicians who worry more about their image then getting the work done. Like Obama.

  • KIC

    I have a challenge for every American…

    Below is a link to an excellently done PDF with a spreadsheet of issues and each candidates views. This is exactly what I’ve been looking for. It is totally documented on every answer. Wonderful job!!!

    The only thing I see missing is whether the candidate is a CFR/Bilderger/Trilateral Commision member or not. Our candidate must NOT be a CFR (Council on Foreign Relations), or Bilderberger or Trilateral Commission member or associate. These groups (as well as others) are bought and paid for by the world banking elite and are aiming for a one world government.

    Romney, Gingrich, and Perry have been said to be connected to at least one of the 3 groups. That is critical information that I have not been able to confirm/verify to my satisfaction. It is a most serious concern and if anyone can verify one way or the other on these men, I’d appreciate hearing about it. Thanks!

    Here’s what I beg you to do…

    — Let go of pre-conceived ideas of who is the right candidate
    — don’t peek now at the PDF that you will download
    — go to http://www.southernnh912.com/sites/default/files/PresidentialCandidatePositions_20111203.pdf
    — print out pages 3 – 18
    — cover all but the 1st column of pages 3 – 15
    — answer the questions yourself and put the answer in the cell with the question
    — determine which issues are critical and not negotiable and mark in the left margin which are critical (I used 1, 2, or 3 stars)
    — cover the header names of the candidates (the top row of each page 3 – 15)
    — uncover the candidates views
    — X out all those that disagree with you; and mark any ?s
    — count how many X’s and ?s you have for each candidate you are considering and put it at the bottom of the entire spreadsheet

    This little exercise is quite enlightening!

    Here’s my scores for the ones I’m interested in…
    Bachmann had 7 Xs and 3 ?s
    Gingrich had 20 Xs
    Paul had 0 Xs and 1 ?
    Perry had 24 Xs
    Romney had 32 Xs and 1 ?

    Now what did you get?

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