The Long List Of Needless Closures In Barack Obama’s Shutdown Offensive

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It’s finally happened: Someone has started a running list of all the unnecessary closures, barricades and service suspensions the Obama White House is perpetrating as part of the President’s deceitful, backwards campaign to convince America that the House of Representatives is holding hostage the political process – and 300 million citizens with it.

As of Tuesday afternoon, Breitbart had tallied 41 instances of the Administration’s punitive tactics since the Oct. 1 government “shutdown” kicked in. Some are more egregious, in their effects, than others – but all betray a commitment to waste more resources punishing people than would be required to simply let them be.

From Breitbart, here are a few lowlights:

… 3. Furloughed Military Chaplains Not Allowed to Work for Free – Furloughed military chaplains willing to celebrate Mass and baptisms for free have been told they will be punished for doing so.

 

… 10. Obama Tries to Close State-Run Parks in Wisconsin – “The park service ordered state officials to close the northern unit of the Kettle Moraine, Devil’s Lake, and Interstate state parks and the state-owned portion of the Horicon Marsh, but state authorities rebuffed the request because the lion’s share of the funding came from state, not federal coffers.”

 

… 5. Arizona Offers to Fund Grand Canyon, Obama Says ‘Drop Dead’ – “Obama has ordered the Grand Canyon to stay closed, even after the state of Arizona and local businesses have offered to cover the costs necessary to keep it open. In other words, the shutdown isn’t about the money — it’s about hurting the American people just because he can.”

 

… 31. Although Privately Funded, Historic Ford’s Theater Closed – “Ford’s Theatre, which is a private non-profit 501(c)(3) organization, does not use any federal funding or federal employees for its performances. During previous government shutdowns, the theatre has continued performances.”

 

… 39. Iwo Jima Memorial Closed, Barricades Erected – “Another open-air memorial in the Washington area is closed and barricaded off: the Iwo Jima Memorial, just across the bridge from D.C. in Rosslyn, Virginia. A source sends along this picture of the barricade set-up at the memorial, which is also called the U.S. Marine Corps War Memorial.”

 

… 41. Shutdown Denies Death Benefits to Families of Fallen Soldiers – “The families of five U.S. service members who were killed over the weekend in Afghanistan have been notified that they won’t be receiving the $100,000 benefit normally wired to relatives within 36 hours of the death. The ‘death gratuity’ is intended to help cover funeral costs and help with immediate living expenses until survivor benefits typically begin.”

 

It cannot be overstated that Obama and Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) are relying on Americans’ ignorance about the legislative process to lie about who’s responsible for the government shutdown, as well as the threat of defaulting on our debts if the House doesn’t agree to raise the debt limit.

That’s because the House, which reserves the exclusive Constitutional authority to initiate spending legislation, has repeatedly agreed to temporarily fund the government and raise the Federal debt limit, with the exception of the Affordable Care Act. It is the sole prerogative of the U.S. House of representatives to do that, and the President’s only recourse is to urge the Senate Democrat majority to reject that plan and vilify the House for holding government hostage.

It’s unlikely that anyone has expressed this more clearly than Thomas Sowell. In a column last week, Sowell wrote:

There is really nothing complicated about the facts. The Republican-controlled House of Representatives voted all the money required to keep all government activities going — except for ObamaCare.

This is not a matter of opinion. You can check the congressional record.

As for the House of Representatives’ right to grant or withhold money, that is not a matter of opinion either. You can check the Constitution of the United States. All spending bills must originate in the House of Representatives, which means that congressmen there have a right to decide whether they want to spend money on a particular government activity.

Whether ObamaCare is good, bad or indifferent is a matter of opinion. But it is a matter of fact that members of the House of Representatives have a right to make spending decisions based on their opinion.

ObamaCare is indeed “the law of the land,” as its supporters keep saying, and the Supreme Court has upheld its constitutionality.

But the whole point of having a division of powers within the federal government is that each branch can decide independently what it wants to do or not do, regardless of what the other branches do, when exercising the powers specifically granted to that branch by the Constitution.

…Since we cannot read minds, we cannot say who — if anybody — “wants to shut down the government.” But we do know who had the option to keep the government running and chose not to. The money voted by the House of Representatives covered everything that the government does, except for ObamaCare.

The Senate chose not to vote to authorize that money to be spent, because it did not include money for ObamaCare. Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid says that he wants a “clean” bill from the House of Representatives, and some in the media keep repeating the word “clean” like a mantra. But what is unclean about not giving Harry Reid everything he wants?

If Senator Reid and President Obama refuse to accept the money required to run the government, because it leaves out the money they want to run ObamaCare, that is their right. But that is also their responsibility.

You cannot blame other people for not giving you everything you want. And it is a fraud to blame them when you refuse to use the money they did vote, even when it is ample to pay for everything else in the government.

When Barack Obama keeps claiming that it is some new outrage for those who control the money to try to change government policy by granting or withholding money, that is simply a bald-faced lie. You can check the history of other examples of “legislation by appropriation” as it used to be called.

Whether legislation by appropriation is a good idea or a bad idea is a matter of opinion. But whether it is both legal and not unprecedented is a matter of fact.

You can read the rest of that devastating piece over at Rare.

And the full Breitbart list of Obama closures can be found here.

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Ben Bullard

Reconciling the concept of individual sovereignty with conscientious participation in the modern American political process is a continuing preoccupation for staff writer Ben Bullard. A former community newspaper writer, Bullard has closely observed the manner in which well-meaning small-town politicians and policy makers often accept, unthinkingly, their increasingly marginal role in shaping the quality of their own lives, as well as those of the people whom they serve. He argues that American public policy is plagued by inscrutable and corrupt motives on a national scale, a fundamental problem which individuals, families and communities must strive to solve. This, he argues, can be achieved only as Americans rediscover the principal role each citizen plays in enriching the welfare of our Republic.

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  • Ron r

    Did sane Americans miss something in all this, or did we see M. Bachman and other wackos laughing and saying how giddy they are now that the government is shut down? Now they try to get every photo op they can with veterans and everyone else trying to deflect their domestic terrorism to the president. Now here we go again with the if we repeat the lie enough it becomes the truth. Not this time !!!

    • oldguy

      Obamacare is domestic terrorism. Funding the government in it’s entirety except for Obamacare is good government.

      • smilee

        It is pure stupidity because it s impossible to do so and they never will. Your equating good government to pure stupidity, how smart is that Some old guys never grow up and still support stupidity.

        • Vis Fac

          Smelly you are so sure all the time and are constantly being proven wrong. If you read the constitution and understand its content you’ll know what you say is not true. The house can appropriate (fund) what it wants to fund The senate either agrees or doesn’t if both houses agree and the president uses his veto that veto can be over ridden by a two thirds vote of both houses.

          Since the House sent a legal bill to the Senate and Harry Reid tossed it without consideration then the onus for the shut down of government hangs squarely on Reid and ODUMBO.

          Should I send some one to translate for you?

          SMELLY I OWN YOU

          Libertas inaestimabilis res est
          Semper-Fi

          • smilee

            The senates can amend it and send it back to the house. If it is gets passed by both houses and the president vetos it and both houses overrides by 2/3 vote it does become law in this case the house has not given anything to the senate that has passed there and the house refuses to meet in conference with the senate so it stalled they tried to force their hand by shutting down the gov. I have never seen such utter stupidity. It will not work and they know it.

          • independent thinker

            Before the Senate can amend it they have to consider it. It is the Senate that refuses to meet in conference not the House.

          • smilee

            Before the Senate can amend it they have to consider it.

            WHAT DOES THAT MEAN?? Senate has offered to meet in conference it is the house that has not appointed conferees.

    • jdn

      At least Obama is letting Camino Americano hold their dignity for illegal immigrants rally even if veterans are threatened with arrest if they go to the national mall . I hear Reid and other Democrat dignitaries will be on hand for photo ops and give their support .

    • johnnywood

      You seem to have confused Ms. Bachman wit Miley Cyrus.

      • smilee

        Miley Cyrus is much smarter so no one can possibly be confused between the two.

    • hippybiker

      I guess you never studied Civics, or really read OUR Constitution, otherwise you would have never have made such an idiotic comment.

    • independent thinker

      ” Now here we go again with the if we repeat the lie enough it becomes the truth.”
      Ah yes Obama repeats his lies often and loudly and you fall for each and every one of them which you then repeat ad nauseam.

    • smilee

      First they said Obamacare had to be repealed, they they said it did not just the funding for it had to be repealed then they said we will fund it but wait a year and then we will embrace it too. They do not know what they want. So screw them!!

      • Ron r

        I’m with you when you’re right and you are right.

        • Vis Fac

          Concerning you both you are NEVER right!!!

          Remember I OWN SMELLY

          Libertas inaestimabilis res est
          Semper-Fi

          • smilee

            Quite the statement from someone who is always wrong.!!

          • Vis Fac

            I find you rather amusing because you remind me of a down on his luck boxer who is continually having the stuffing knocked out of him and is so DESPERATE for something positive to happen he keeps coming back for more punishment. Even though both eyes are swollen shut blood is everywhere his brain has suffered multiple concussions and even though being greatly outmatched with no hope of success still comes back for more beatings

            I OWN YOU SMELLY

            Libertas inaestimabilis res est
            Semper-Fi

          • smilee

            BEST SEE YOUR SHRINK, YOUR TRULY LOSING IT!!

          • Vis Fac

            Smelly see you’re losing it little by little rather soon your head will implode. The harder you try the lower you get.

            Getting to you is so much fun!!!!

            See I DO OWN YOU

            Libertas inaestimabilis res est
            Semper-Fi

      • Vis Fac

        SMELLY first we must pass it in order for us to know what’s in it Remember that? This is putting the cart before the horse and there is nothing SANE or lawful regarding this malfeasance.

        You can equate this another way you get pulled over for a traffic infraction and the officer has you sign a blank form and informs you that you can see the charges AFTER you sign. Would you do that? Please don’t disappoint me and say no!!

        You could fight these trumped up charges in any court in the country and win but not in ODUMBO’s and Holders Kangaroo Court.

        Remember I OWN you

        Libertas inaestimabilis res est
        Semper-Fi

        • smilee

          I do not think so it has been passed and you still do not know what is in it. This is just your idiotic opinions that makes absolutely no sense to intelligent people so stuff your BS

          • Vis Fac

            Smelly I OWN you!

            Apparently you have SELECTIVE memory or recall. You must have emerged from a coma where you suffer from amnesia.

            As for you being intelligent? . and my “idiotic opinions” make no sense to you lets just say that a microbe has a higher IQ than you so I wouldn’t be so quick to assign labels just yet.

            As for the Bovine Excrement you know plenty about that for that is ALL you have provided thus far.

            Remember SMELLY I OWN YOU

            Libertas inaestimabilis res est
            Semper-Fi

          • smilee

            ????????????????????? YOU MAKE ABSOLUTELY NO SENSE, YOU CRACKING UP???

          • Vis Fac

            Of course I make no sense to you In order for you to understand anything other than liberal one dimensional idiot-ology you need a functioning brain with the capacity to retain an IQ higher than a microbe.

            Since you suffer from cerebral necrosis retaining any IQ is impossible. You’ll NEVER understand much of anything!!!

            One thing I have noted though; the more you “try” to recover some self respect the more inane your postings become airing a desperation of a drowning man.

            You can equate this to the Chinese finger trap, the more you pull to get away the tighter it gets on your fingers. I suspect rather quickly you’ll lose it completely.

            Remember SMELLY I OWN you

            Libertas inaestimabilis res est
            Semper-Fi

  • Sue Breslin

    For the life of me, I don’t get why the media keeps blaming the Republicans. They offered everything except to fund obamacare. Ovomit and Reid are the negators causing this shutdown. oVOMITS words,”Make it hurt as much as possible” this is not fiction, THIS IS FACT, NO ONE is holding America HOSTAGE THEN the liar in chief. This is treason and he needs to go along with the msm and the barfs that spew his vomit.

    • PatriotStill

      Obama has the embedded belief that he is so well insulated because of his ‘supporters’ he NOT only CAN but WILL exercise his socialist agenda at the expense of our county. YES, he DOES NOT CARE about civil unrest because it will fulfill part of his agenda to have a civil war between the Government and its citizens.
      Imagine what can happen if these areas closed were opened by patriotic citizens, and continued operations despite the gubment thugs! THAT’s where the rebellion begins!

      • smilee

        Why are you telling all these lies. If People did what you advocate they would go to jail.

        • Vis Fac

          Well SMELLY If people did what you advocate then there would be more unemployment higher debt and more illegals sapping our resources and you would have to share your entitlements.

          It’s pantie-waists like you who just sit idly by with silly grins on your faces while the government takes everything away. I suppose you never had anything (or ever will) so you don’t mind.

          You have been programmed to accept anything the government and media tell you. I can visualize you being one of those comatose human batteries that power the Matrix. You are oblivious to all your surroundings and know only what is been fed to you through the umbilical cord embedded in your skull.

          Remember I OWN you!!!

          Libertas inaestimabilis res est
          Semper-Fi

          • smilee

            Why are you telling all these lies????????????

          • Vis Fac

            Facts to a liberal are those that are pulled out
            of thin air and or provided by lame stream media to swathe their ineptness on all things rational. Liberal one dimensional idiot-ology dictates they make things up as they go so they can blame others for their failures or force their agenda. Anything contrary to liberal one dimensional idiot ology are considered to be lies.

            So whenever they have trouble defending and/or nothing to substantiate their positions they simply fall back on the FBAB (Federal Board for Assigning Blame)
            or citing lame stream media’s partial/fabricated truths and prevarications; then all their liberal inadequacies are soon considered ancient history becoming non issues and then quickly forgotten

            Remember I OWN you

            Libertas inaestimabilis res est
            Semper-Fi

          • smilee

            Why are you telling all these lies?????????????????

      • Ron r

        Ok then go to the house and make the republifascist who closed the government open it back up. Tell the idiots like Bachmam, Cruz, and Gohmer to stop the photo ops and let our country go!!!

        • Vis Fac

          You Have it SDRAWKCAB (backwards) fool The Senate has refused to look at anything coming from the house. All the requested funding was granted except ODUMBOCARE which the house has privilege not to fund. ODUMBO and Reid are the ones who shut the government down.

          ODUMBO says he’ll “negotiate” AFTER funding ODUMBOCARE. That would be like closing the barn door AFTER the horse ran off. There would be nothing to negotiate if the house folds.

          With liberals there is NO COMPROMISING it is their way or the Highway so again the liberals are the cause of this debacle they want to blame the republicans and this time it doesn’t wash

          Libertas inaestimabilis res est
          Semper-Fi

          • Ron r

            The president should never negotiate with terroist, domestic or otherwise . The law is the law.

          • Vis Fac

            This is true and Congress shouldn’t as well ODUMBO is a TERRORIST who negotiates with other terrorists and you find this acceptable.
            The law is the law but does not mandate that law be funded. Go back to Civics class that is if you had one which I doubt!!

            You are a PI$$ POOR excuse for an American I see I OWN YOU TOO

            Libertas inaestimabilis res est
            Semper-Fi

          • Ron r

            And you are just plain p!&& poor!!!! And a class A sh!! Head. Amazing that when someone disagrees with one of you idiots the best you can do is name call. I bet you still beleive the damn earth is flat. Dumb A&&!!!!! You don’t even own a damn brain!!!!

          • Vis Fac

            Ron-You’re just mad because I’m right and you have nothing to offer to support your position other than the fabrications of liberal one dimensional idiot-ology.

            Sheeple like you go off on tangents when they discover they have been found out they throw tantrums as you have and when they do announce to everyone that they are finished and have thrown in the towel.

            I OWN YOU

            Libertas inaestimabilis res est
            Semper-Fi

          • Vis Fac

            So why is ODUMBO negotiating with Al Queda and providing them aid comfort and ARMS?

            RON–Before you start pointing fingers at anyone you’d best make sure your hands are clean.

            ODUMBO has the dirtiest hands of all closely followed by CLINTON and HOLDER.

            Don’t try and use euphemisms or semantics as I am on to you this entire thread (sans liberals) is on to you.

            You have NOTHING to support your argument but blind obedience to Der Fuhrer ODUMBO.

            Now I OWN you as well!!
            Libertas inaestimabilis res est
            Semper-Fi

    • smilee

      The polls show it is the people who are blaming the republicans and the press reports that, nothing wrong with that. Republicans know they do not have a snowball chance in hell of changing anything to do with Obamacre and even if they could get a bill passed in both houses the president would veto it, He holds absolute poser over Obamacare and that is equivalent to holding the gov hostage to try and get what is impossible to get.. Polls show 70% do not want the gov shutdown over Obamacare and they re-elected him last year giving him that veto power so the republicans are ignoring the official will of he people as that is what are elections are. Rational people see the GOP as acting real stupid!

      • Vis Fac

        Smelly Polls? Which poles the ones in Poland? I have yet to see the poll you refer to. Or is it the pole you have stuck up your BUTT?

        Remember I OWN you

        Libertas inaestimabilis res est
        Semper-Fi

        • smilee

          Several polls show the same numbers (this is on obamacare only) . Look them up and learn. if you do not it is ok as it does not bother me as I could care less if you choose to remain ignorant and stupid.

          • Vis Fac

            SMELLY you are so far out of touch you are beginning (wrong vernacular) have always believed your OWN lies. You lie so often they seem real Apparently liberal indoctrination has done a fine job on you.

            You see Smelly it’s not that you are so stupid that you don’t know anything but what ever you do know isn’t correct.
            Remember I OWN YOU

            Libertas inaestimabilis res est
            Semper-Fi

          • smilee

            Why are you telling all these lies?????

      • TheOriginalDaveH

        Obamacare supporters are turning on the law:
        http://reason.com/blog/2013/10/08/obamacare-supporters-turn-on-the-law
        It’s a no lose situation if the Republicans stand tough. If they succeed in stopping Obamacare, the voters (who mostly dislike Obamacare) will reward them. If they fail to stop it then they can say they did their best and after the Obamacare fully hits consumers’ pockets, the voters’ anger will be directly targeted where it deserves to be — Obama and the Democrats.

        • smilee

          You will believe anything that smells of BS.won’t you. Does not matter what they, you or anyone else says it is here to stay. Get over it!!!!

    • johnrysf

      The government shutdown is not the result of a legislative breakdown or both parties refusing to compromise. It is a direct result of the right-wing House Republicans’ legislative strategy of taking hostages and making extremist demands that are out of touch with the American people. Report the truth: House Republicans are solely responsible for the government shutdown.

      Why is this important?

      There is little doubt as to why the government has been shut down since Tuesday morning: The Republicans are trying to do everything they can to stop the Affordable Care Act (aka Obamacare) from going into effect.

      The Republican leadership in Congress has said as clearly as possible that it does not want people to have access to healthcare and will try to do everything it can to prevent it, including shutting down the government and possibly letting the government default on its debt.[1]

      Predictably, the major television networks have largely ignored the Republicans’ own words and tried to imply that both sides are equally to blame for the shutdown.[2] They seem determined to make the story of the shutdown one of a partisan standoff where both sides are equally to blame. This is dishonest.

      The facts are as clear as day. The Republicans have opted to use a shutdown as a way of pressuring President Obama to give up healthcare and other progressive priorities. Media coverage of the government shutdown and who is to blame should reflect these facts and inform the American people, but so far it has largely failed to do so.

      The false equivalence and “he-said, she-said” coverage from major television networks and the dysfunctional DC press corps has dangerous implications for the proper functioning of our democracy. If Americans who watch television news don’t understand the fact that Republicans intentionally created the government shutdown and debt ceiling crises in an unprecedented attempt to extract extreme legislative concessions from Democrats, they won’t be able to hold those responsible accountable at the ballot box.

      It is not the media’s job to cover up for the Republicans. It’s time for the media to come clean and report the truth: Republicans are solely responsible for shutting down the government.

      REFERENCES:

      [1] http://america.aljazeera.com/articles/2013/10/1/reporting-governmentshutdowndemocracy.html

      [2] http://mediamatters.org/blog/2013/10/01/how-the-press-helped-cause-the-gop-shutdown/196187

      • DLGtimes2

        You are quoting ALJAZEERA!! Seriously?!! Ok, now I am done even reading your stupidity.

  • Kat

    One word “LAME”!

  • gunnerv1

    Just waiting for the “Rally Point” call.

    • B

      We all have to do what we can in our communities!!! The military is not with him!!!!

  • Lie breaker

    Bob, end this bull rhetoric now, tired of Reading Twits with no logic, just read the verse below. Fact- The texas twit left Obama the Mess, Fact-WE THE PEOPLE are to BLAME for voting for WEAK Candidates and T_PARTY, Fact-Get over 2 losses in election and all you supporters in twits rhetoric logic need to open a book on Govt and Economics asap and READ what Branch of Govt controls the spending. THAT being noted i want no MIS- COMPREHENSION which is 99% of these Brainless accusations from TWITS row,,. House republicans are HOLDING YOU THE PEOPLE HOSTAGE to further Bend you Over to insert another one of their suppository robbing of YOUR MONEY and garner their Accounts….VOTE RIGHT and this mess will END, Keep voting the way its been and get used to being without… Stop Bitchn and do something!!!!!!!

    • independent thinker

      FACT you are good at quoting the Obama talking points including blame Bush.

    • hippybiker

      Your sentence construction and grammar leave much to be desired. What exactly was your point? I lost it in your aimless ranting. Please go back to grade school, and learn how to communicate intelligently.

    • Sue Breslin

      How do you call FRAUD, winning in an election that was stolen from the people. READ, you might learn something.

      • smilee

        People who cannot accept the truth always say stupid things like this. Rational people of course know that it is not true.

        • Vis Fac

          Smelly you are ANYTHING but rational STUPID yes Rational NO!!

          Remember I OWN YOU!!

          Libertas inaestimabilis res est
          Semper-Fi

          • smilee

            I see you are having another stupidity attack. Hope you get over it soon!!

          • Vis Fac

            Smelly it is quite obvious you are having difficulty coming to grips with reality and the fact that you are constantly trying to attack me with inane one liners confirms that I indeed OWN YOU

            Libertas inaestimabilis res est
            Semper-Fi

          • smilee

            Go Home, grow up, and after that come back and we can have an adult conversation!!

          • Vis Fac

            First we both need to be Adults I know I am but have reservations about your status. Liberals lie about everything else so you can pretty muck rely on them lying about their age too. Judging by all your incessant ranting I put your age somewhere between eight and twelve!! No where near adulthood!

            Remember I OWN YOU

            Libertas inaestimabilis res est
            Semper-Fi

          • smilee

            If you want me to believe your an adult you have quit acting like a two year old!!

          • Vis Fac

            SMELLY — In order to have an “adult” conversation all parties must meet the criteria for adulthood since you appear to be between the ages of eight and twelve this eliminates you for consideration.

            Remember SMELLY I OWN YOU!!!

            Libertas inaestimabilis res est
            Semper-Fi

          • Vis Fac

            one more one line inane reply form Smelly further proof that I OWN YOU I will ALWAYS OWN you for you have nothing lucid to say.

            Libertas inaestimabilis res est
            Semper-Fi

    • B

      Here, educate urself troll!!! You back a liar and fraud!!! Fact ck it urself, all true, we didn’t lose, it’s the biggest sham and f-up in US history!!!

      http://mobile.wnd.com/2013/04/jury-fraud-put-obama-on-08-ballot/

    • Cheryl Clinton

      Just out of curiosity, have you met anyone who voted for him?? Neither have I. Huuuummmmmmmm how did he REALLY get into office!!!!!

      • gunnerv1

        I have and we cancel each other out when we vote! (But she likes guns now, so there’s hope yet)

      • TheOriginalDaveH

        They’re just embarrassed to admit it.

      • Michigan_REB

        Did anybody notice he lose in every area that has voter ID, why? beccause he can’t cheat. lie getting 130% tune ou tin some districts or getting 100% of the vote in others that is amost a mathmatical imposablility.

    • TheOriginalDaveH

      You’re tired of reading your own comments?

    • Larry Christopher

      Lie maker … YOU should be the one to stop your pathetic rhetoric now. I am definitely tired of reading what low intelligent…low information votes think.

      FACT: The DEMOCRAT controlled House and Senate for the last two years of PRESIDENT Bush’s term completely destroyed the banking and housing industries. Do you remember Chris Dodd (Democrat in charge of the Banking Committee) and Barney Frank (Democrat in charge of the Housing Committee)? They put forth legislature that created the housing bubble. PRESIDENT Bush went before Congress no less than 17 times (DOCUMENTED) to inform them that this would lead to economic crisis if it continued. They pushed it through anyway. So, what Barry “inherited” was given to him by the Democrats.

      FACT: The House of Representatives do control the purse strings. That being said…they have offered the compromise to Barry and Harry of funding the entire government (only 17% is not being funded), if they would grant a waiver to the American people for a year concerning Obamacare. Since Barry has broken the law 19 other times and granted waivers to Big business, to the Congress and their staffs, to HIMSELF and his staffs, and to unions…why not US? But, they refuse! Nope…it is being proven that the longer this goes on, the more the American people are seeing Barry and Harry as being uncompromising evil, spoiled children. People that actually THINK are beginning to realize it is the Democrats holding this country hostage.

      Your foolish rant is seen as nothing but more than the stupidity of a Socialist / Communist / Liberal / Progressive democrat that posts his own idiotic opinions with no basis is fact.

  • Peter Wang

    Actually Obama and the Democrats are stupid in following this line, because the people are waking up, despite the best efforts of the progressive media. Perhaps it is also true to say that the people are also waking up to the media lies as well. The line has almost been reached now when the masses will finally rise up. The catalyst will be the the behaviour against veterans, and will spring from there. Hopefully this will mean the end for Obama. If the Republicans don’t back down, Obama will break, but it will be done in such a way that he has room to wriggle free and blame Congress in toto. That won’t work this time either.

    • smilee

      Obama will not back down nor will he break the republicans will break or be voted out in 14. The Majority blame the GOP and they will be held responsible for their stupidity. Dream on if you like..

      • Frenchy

        You got it wrong Frownie ‘ The people of this country Knows
        it’s all Obamas fault . Get a job Get off food stamps . theres
        to many people against Obamacare Period

        • smilee

          Retired, never have had food stamps never will. Polls show that it is the GOP’s fault. You are wrong the proof is in the election as the majority voted for him giving him veto power over any change to obamacare thus the people gave him that power.. You sound like a sore loser..

          • Vis Fac

            You haven’t got over that pole up your A$$ have you? You keep referring to these mysterious polls and I have yet to see any of them I doubt they exist anywhere outside your pathetic little mind.

            You are in a constant state of denial and are vehemently trying to convince yourself otherwise. Reality Check Smelly it’s not working is it?

            Remember I OWN YOU

            Libertas inaestimabilis res est
            Semper-Fi

          • smilee

            There is nothing mysterious they are all over the press from reputable pollsters After you have learned how to read you can find out this is true.

          • Vis Fac

            SMELLY here you go citing the press the press that is OWNED by liberals and you don’t believe these polls to be one bit biased? Boy are you OWNED not only by me but by liberal morons.

            I STILL OWN YOU

            Libertas inaestimabilis res est
            Semper-Fi

          • smilee

            Why are you always telling all these lies???? Is that aou know how to do?? Your a very sad case!!!

          • daveH234

            All these people do is rant. Their poll is better than the poll you are quoting. They are all suspect polls. There was little to no voter fraud ever in this and past elections. All made up..The majority won and they still wwant their cake….

          • smilee

            Not poll,many polls and they all say the same thing. Your right on the fraud.

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            How about posting a link, Sleepee? You can do that, can’t you?

          • independent thinker

            I do not have a link but YouGuv has an ongoing poll that shows the country to be almost evenly divided on who to blame.

          • TheOriginalDaveH
          • Vis Fac

            Anything you say for you are the purveyor of all knowledge and you have the authority to dictate what id true and what is not RIGHT?? NOT

            Again you are delusional and have yet to provide any unbiased support for your opinions

            I OWN YOU SMELLY

            Libertas inaestimabilis res est
            Semper-Fi

          • BHR

            The election shows how ignorant the voters are. America is bankrupt, how do you think the country will pay its bills if spending is not cut. Obama has been president for 5 years and the economy is getting worse. The president is suppose to lead and bring all Americans together. Obama has started a class war and created a lot of hate. This is the leader you want? President Clinton worked with both parties to find solutions, Obama works with no one, he lectures and will not negotiate. Politics works with compromise, Obama will not compromise.

          • smilee

            The election shows how ignorant the voters are. BS, YOUR NOT SMART ENOUGH TO KNOW THAT SO IT IS JUST A STUPID OPINION FROM A KNOW NOTHING!

            America is bankrupt, NO ITS IS NOT, WEALTH IS ABUNDANT IN THIS COUNTRY WE JUST BORROW AND PAY INTEREST RATHER THAN TAX FAIRLY TO GET THE MONEY NEEDED, WE AS A COUNTRY ARE NO WHERE NEAR BROKE. how do you think the country will pay its bills if spending is not cut. RAISE MORE REVENUE. Obama has been president for 5 years and the economy is getting worse. THE FIGURES SHOW OTHERWISE AND YOUR SAYING OTHERWISE DOES NOT MAKE THAT TRUE AS IT IS A LIE. President is suppose to lead and bring all Americans together. IT IS NOT POSSIBLE TO LEAD
            THE FAR RIGHT RADICALS ANYWHERE BY ANYONE ASK BOEHNER THAT HE CAN NOT LEAD THEM EITHER. Obama has started a class war CLASS WARFARE STARTED IN 1980 WHEN THE WEALTH WAS ALL SHIFTED UPWARDS AND OBAMA WOULD LIKE TO STOP IT BUT NOBODY IN THE GOP COOPERATES WITH HIM. and created a lot of hate. tThis is the leader you want? TOP RADICALS
            MAY NOT FOLLLOW HIM BUT HE WILL NOT LET THEM BULLY THE AMERICAN PEOPLE ANY
            LONGER AND WILL HOLD FIRM AGAINST THEM AND THAT IS REAL LEADERSHIP, President
            Clinton worked with both parties to find solutions, Obama work s with no one, he lectures and will not negotiate. Politics works with compromise, Obama will
            not compromise. SURE HE COMPROMISES IT IS THE GOP WHO WILL NOT COMPROMISE, THAT
            IS WHY THE GOV IS SHUT DOWN. YOU GOT IT ALL AZZ BACKWARDS MY IGNORANT FRIEND

          • Betta

            Smilee, obama was NEVER re-elected. You didn’t get the memo about all the people who voted fraudulently including illegals who couldn’t speak a word of English and one woman that I know of went to J A I L for her illegal voting? Try to keep up.
            Time to make that popping sound.

          • Betta

            Oh, and smillee, reports of voter fraud started coming out a few hours after the polls opened. Yo’ boy got more votes than there were voters in many areas. He is ILLEGAL!

          • Anonymous

            I happen to live in one of those counties. We had a 147% voter turnout ! The county elections supervisor was forced to step down after the election, because SHE WAS TOO STRESSED OUT…. Yeah right. Counting all those extra ballots was a lot of work apparently. Even after all that BS, they still didn’t disallow the votes cast. UNBELIEVEABLE

          • smilee

            BULL, NOT TRUE

          • Ron r

            Now that was an internet lie and everyone knows that. BTW name this fake county.!!

          • smilee

            Bull, more far right propaganda and there is zero evidence that any fraud had any impact on the election. You will remain ignorant as long as you buy into this far right propaganda and lies.

          • smilee

            Sure he was or he would not be president even a fifth grader knows that. That memo was sent out by far right radicals as propaganda and as all propaganda is a lie. this is not true. Guess you never got that memo did you.

          • Ron r

            Humor the idiot . Yeah I heard about the 4 million illegals who voted for him. I just wondered how they knew who they were voting for since the Romney’s spoke fluent Spanish. Dag nabit, must we’ll get them thar peoples next time out.

          • peter

            Smile on smilee, but at the end of the day we are all losers, including you. Let me know how it’s going with you this time next year. kind regards and may all your wishes come to fruition. Just be careful what you wish for.

          • smilee

            ?????????????

  • Marc Cantell

    People are becoming aware of the BS Obama is peddling, its just a shame we can’t get congress and the senate to realize that that someone needs held accountable for this action and the scandals ( Benghazi, Fast n Furious, IRS, and the list goes on ) that person is Obama. I know as do most of the readers on here that Obama refuses accountability. Just like he refuses to believe that the American public is waking up and realizing that he’s not interested in America and making it better, he’s interested in Obama, the brotherhood, and going golfing and on vacations on someone else’s dime. When he doesn’t get his way he pouts and acts very childish. This usually results in tyranny where he goes out of his way to make his point like shutting down the amber alert but leaving up Michelle Obama’s website, like closing commissary but leaving his favorite golf course open, those are only a few of the things that were done. The republicans have to stick to their guns and they cannot back down. The truckers will be in DC soon, and hopefully that will show Obama that we the people are really sick n tired of the lack of leadership, and complete incompetence in the White House. We are tired of him using the executive order when it benefits him, like fast n furious. We are tired of treasonous acts like arming our enemies.

  • Cheryl Clinton

    This tyrant needs stopped!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Fed up

    Scumbag Obama is the most worthless P.O.S. to ever disgrace the Whitehouse!

  • just me

    UMMMM…. didn’t obama promise that he had ways to work the budget so that it wouldn’t cost america a dime?
    that he could fund it with all the savings the plan had in store for us?
    If he can keep that promise… no harm, no foul. make it make its own funding and he can have it. If not, repeal it.

  • JW IN THE DESERT

    Scumbag Obama is the most worthless P.O.S. to ever disgrace the the world. (there, I fixed it)

  • Ron r

    There have been no veterans arrested or threaten with arrest by anyone. Must be another Fixed News story. The ones that should have been arrested were the cowards who showed up for photo ops placing the blame on someone else when they were caught on camara laughing about the shut down. As for the constitution, I think I’ll go with judge Roberts instead of you interpretation of any law. The bottom line is that you repeal laws or amend them, not defund them. What part of getting a bill passes did these idiots miss???? I hear the Spurs are demanding that the NBA award them game 7 or the will shut the NBA down.

    • Vis Fac

      “No Money shall be drawn from the Treasury, but in Consequence of Appropriations made by Law; and a regular Statement and Account of the Receipts and Expenditures of all public Money shall be published from time to time.”

      — Article I, Section 9, Clause 7

      The Appropriations Clause is the cornerstone of Congress’s “power of the purse.” It assigns to Congress the role of final arbiter of the use of public funds. The source of Congress’s power to spend derives from Article I, Section 8, Clause 1. The Appropriations Clause provides Congress with a mechanism to control or to limit spending by the federal government. The Framers chose the particular language of limitation, not authorization, for the first part of the clause and placed it in Section 9 of Article I, along with other restrictions on governmental actions to limit, most notably, executive action.

      Sounds Like Ben Bullard is spot on here

      Libertas inaestimabilis res est
      Semper-Fi

      • Ron r

        The ACA has already been funded. It’s also a law. Congress passed the law and congress (house) shut down the government. You repeal LAWs , not defund them. The arm chair lawyers need to stop the B/S. they are giving opinions not based on fact.

        • Vis Fac

          First of all you are wrong no funding for ODUMBOCARE has occurred period (strike one) Secondly in order to “defund” something that something must first have been funded (strike two) Thirdly I see you don’t consider your rantings as being one of those of an “armchair lawyer” which in fact you are. SO you have no business lecturing anyone if you cannot support your opinion (strike three yer out)

          Libertas inaestimabilis res est
          Semper-Fi

          • smilee

            It was in the law when it was enacted. Defund means to take funding away, doesn’t there have to be something there before it can be taken away??? That is what the GOP has tried to do and they have failed miserably and you have to..

          • Larry Christopher

            smilee and Ron r… when this so-called “law” came into being…it originated in the Senate and called a “PENALTY” if people didn’t take it. It was sent to the Supreme Court, and COULD NOT become a law until it was re-written from the bench and called a TAX. It was voted as “Constitutional” because of the wording that was inserted by the judges. However, they DID NOT vote on another very important part…and that is the origination of the law. According to the Constitution (you have heard of that pesky little document that the Democrats hate so much)…it says all TAXES are to ORIGINATE in the House of Representatives. This idiotic bill DIDN’T. There is a law suit pending. 87% of the government is up and running…only 17% (The Parks, Monuments, Hunting and Fishing Lands…and some NON-ESSENTIAL government workers) are not being funded…and this is because Barry and Harry want to “inflict as much pain as they can on the American people” (quoted from a White House source). The only thing is…people with low information and low intelligence will swallow Barry’s rhetoric hook, line, and sinker. How does it feel being a Communist?

          • smilee

            Boy are you ever ignorant, it originated in the house, The SC did not change one word in it, it is identical to the one that was sent them , all the court did was say it was our supported by the Constitution. That lawsuit is frivolous and political not legal and it. will end up in the garbage can. I will not address the rest of your lies.and that is all your post consists of.

          • Larry Christopher

            Please try to get this through your extremely closed brain…FACT CHECK what I have said. Don’t rely on your puny memory or the liberal way of re-writing history. What I have said are FACTS. Of course facts and truth means NOTHING to liberals. I appreciate the fact that you will not address any more posts from me, because I get tired of reading words out of the Communist Manifesto.

          • smilee

            I did fact check it against the gov record and court opinion and it revealed your facts were not facts but all lies.

          • Vis Fac

            Smelly See my response to LC above as it aptly applies to you as well.

            Remember I OWN you.

            Libertas inaestimabilis res est
            Semper-Fi

          • Vis Fac

            LC–
            Facts to a liberal are those that are pulled out
            of thin air and or provided by lame stream media to swathe their ineptness on all things rational. Liberal one dimensional idiot-ology dictates they make things up as they go so they can blame others for their failures or force their agenda.

            So whenever they have trouble defending and/or nothing to substantiate their positions they simply fall back on the FBAB (Federal Board for Assigning Blame) and/or character assassination through the use of pejoratives or labeling, and/or citing lame stream media’s partial/fabricated truths and prevarications; then all their liberal inadequacies are soon considered ancient history becoming non issues and then quickly forgotten.

            Libertas inaestimabilis res est
            Semper-Fi

          • Ron r

            Facts from WND or the Supreme court and the Justices who heard the case. Or C. Thomas’s wife???

          • Ron r

            You have to keep it short with them because most are birthers. How far away from the truth and reality can you be if you are a birther. It’s like thinking the earth is FLAT.

          • Ron r

            The LAW was not rewritten, but if you think so , because I know you are a part time Supreme Court judge. What b/s. You guys will come up with any excuse and make it the truth. You repeal LAWS, not defund them. How does it feel being a wacko???

          • B

            Nominated and elected through fraud!!! End of story!!!

            http://mobile.wnd.com/2013/04/jury-fraud-put-obama-on-08-ballot/

          • smilee

            Get out of the manure pile so you are free from the smell and can breathe fresh air then your brain will function much better

          • Ron r

            Yeah, yeah, yeah, strange you are the only ones to know that. Don’t you think you should let the rest of the world know. At least Fox / Fixed “NEWS”. WND, WND, that’s your source??? LMAO!!!!

          • Vis Fac

            SMELLY– What was in the law when it was enacted splain that one Lucy! I am well aware what de-fund means as I was the one who imparted that information on this thread.

            As for your position on de-funding I’ll use your words de-funding You said it here “doesn’t there have to be something there before it can be taken away??? apparently don’t comprehend or understand what you write.
            One more time SMELLY there was never any funding for ODUMBOCARE got that NEVER any funding this PHONY government SHUT DOWN is what this ODUMBO TANTRUM is about FUNDING ODUMBOCARE. Now tell me you aren’t the least bit embarrassed for being WRONG again!!
            You bust be confusing funding with repeal. Oh so Typical of a know nothing brain washed liberal
            Remember I OWN you

            Libertas inaestimabilis res est
            Semper-Fi

          • Ron r

            The ACA is a law . You do not defund laws. Strike 4. What part of fact do you not understand. Again, you repeal or amend laws . Strike 5.

          • Michigan_REB

            Read the wordign of the constitution above all funding for anything in governemnt must come from the hosue of respresentatives and they also have the option to refuse to fund whatever it feels. if that hurts HIs royal ass Obama too bad he needss to get over it and except no one wantss it and decide what is most important a monster healthcare mess or funding governement? I think it is pretty obvious what his choice is. His ego above the good of the nation.

          • Ron r

            You repeal LAWS not defund them!!!!

          • Vis Fac

            I see can you not understand what you post ” The ACA has already been funded. It’s also a law. Congress passed the law and congress (house) shut down the government. You repeal LAWs , not defund them. The arm chair lawyers need to stop the B/S. they are giving opinions not based on fact.

            Again You said ODUMBOCARE (ACA) was funded which is a bald face LIE Refer to your first sentence You obviously don’t understand your own posting.

            Regarding the LAW — I’m’ going use the same analogy I provided to SMELLY Read carefully for I know most will sail miles over your head

            Let’s say you have been pulled over for a traffic infraction and the officer hand you a blank subpoena for you to appear before a judge. There is nothing on it and the officer DEMANDS you sign before reading the charges and only after you sign will you know what you are being charged with. (anything sound remotely familiar here?)

            Now I ask you one is this legal? two would you sign? Please don’t disappoint me and say no, because this is exactly what ODUMBOCARE is FRAUDULENT!!!

            If you were to appear in a real court room under these circumstances the charges would be dismissed.

            However Holder and ODUMBO conduct a KANGAROO court and you’d be charged and found guilty.

            ODUMBO HOLDER REID and PIGLOSI should all be prosecuted for FRAUD.

            THEREFORE the ACA is a FRAUDULENTLY passed statute and a sham. The SCOTUS only found this law valid on one point being a tax not the validity or legality of its origin.

            You are DISQUALIFIED and sent to the showers!!!

            Libertas inaestimabilis res est
            Semper-Fi

          • Ron r

            Let me give this to you because you are in denial. lets say a bill is introduced and both houses of congress pass the bill and it becomes law. lets say that one party was told not to attend any meetings on the bill and not to vote on its passage , but there are enough votes to get it passed anyway. Now lets also say that the idiots who wanted nothing to do with the bill appeal the LAW to the Supreme Court where the LAW is upheld. Now lets say the opposition ran a candidate that said he would repeal the ACH even though he was not smart enough to know that CONGRESS repeals LAWS. Now lets say that person ran on a platform of appealing the ACA and lost anyway. Now lets say that the Koch hired a group of idiots to hatch a plan to defund a LAW that they tried to repeal (the right way) 41 times without success. Now lets say for the sake of argument , because your ticket analogy is about as stupid as this one, that after losing a football game 35 to 7 the NY Football Giants demanded the NFL give them another 29 points because their DB’s were not 100% and could not see the laser passes Payton was throwing. Give us the 29 points or we’ll shut the NFL down. And you do not know what the hell the judges read as far as the ACA goes. But because you and others like you are so out there you want to hold the country hostage because some one wants to get health care. BTW, Reagan sold arms to Iran and to rebels(Terrorist) himself. where was your out cry then???? You’re just talking loud and saying NOTHING!!!!

          • Vis Fac

            OK Ron Obviously you are that stupid you would sign a blank document of indenturement and you certainly agree to signing BLANK CHECKS for ODUMBO to cash That’s being prudent and responsible alright.

            Using your logic Lets say this bill is introduced ten minutes BEFORE a Congressional Recess hardly enough time to scan the cover let alone read the 1K plus pages of the proposal then some BIMBO tells you that before you can recess you must vote on something you know nothing about never mind reading it because we have to pass it before we can know what’s in it And you agree I’m NOT surprised this shows liberals have no brains so through sheer numbers of STUPID liberals and RINOS the bill is passed. Legal questions arise that Liberals soon quash and Holder ODUMBO’s Lackey does nothing.

            This is why we no linger live in a republic because one faction forces policy no matter how legal or unlawful.

            This is why you are wrong!!

            Now we know what’s in it and hardly anyone wants it including its most fervent supporters. That should tell you something but being stupid as you are you dismiss it because heck your man loves it. Several bills to amend this train wreck were sent to the Senate for consideration where HARRY REID arbitrarily and unilaterally refused to have any discussions let alone a vote. In case you slept through CIVICS class you would realize this to be malfeasance of office a chargeable offense. But being LIBERAL you don’t care unless it effects your agenda.

            The rest of your argument is insipid and rendered moot

            Libertas inaestimabilis res est
            Semper-Fi

          • Ron r

            And like the republicfascist who were told not to meet with, discuss, or conference with democrats when they were putting the bill together you are now too stupid to know that they have tried (the right way) 41 times to repeal the ACA, and have failed in every attempt. YOU REPEAL OR AMEND LAWS, not DEFUND them. What part of this do you not understand??? So the republifascist would not read the bill when it was written , and now blame everyone else because they chose not to read it. No wonder the idiots think they are right. The majority passed the LAW and the President won not only the majority vote but the electoral. Seems this only matters to you guys when and if you win. If you don’t win, then it’s to hell with elections. Here’s another for you 37 5 disapprove of Obama Care , but less than 16 % disapprove of the ACA. You idiots don’t know what you want besides erasing the Obama presidency from the books. Guy in Ky. signs up for Ky. care, and says I glad it’s not Obama Care. IDIOT!!! Ill close because my IPhone is not working properly and I have volunteered my computer to those who want to sigh up for the ACA.

          • Vis Fac

            I see you are still stuck in MORON mode focusing on “defunding” instead of grasping he concept that ODUMBOCARE has yet to be FUNDED You remain a lame brain going off on tangents not associated with the topic. It is for this reason you have no credibility. Please take your meds before you completely lose it.

            Libertas inaestimabilis res est
            Semper-Fi

          • Ron r

            And you are stuck on stupid if you think LAWS are defunded and not repealed. It matters not if it has already been funded or not MORON!! It’s a LAW and Laws are repealed or amended. You are a birther and you say I have no credibility?? You need to have someone monitor your meds intake. You are over medicating. Good thing you have insurance.

          • Vis Fac

            I’m Sorry I cannot speak MORON I NEVER said Laws are defunded YOU did I said money or ODUMBOCARE had not been allocated thus funded by the house. Therefore funds have not been granted and so defunding as you want to call it cannot occur because there are no funds in the first place. I don’t know what you cannot grasp this concept a second grader can but not you!! The reason for ODUMBOS punishing SHUT DOWN is because he and Reid are obstinate and refuse to negotiate All funding originated from the House of representatives (read OUR Constitution) I’d say re read but I know you haven’t otherwise you wouldn’t be so stupid

            The house has the authority (and duty) to withhold funds for unnecessary and illegal expenditures.

            So get out of your rut and realize that funding for ODUMBOCARE has NOT been authorized by the House and therefore cannot be considered as being funded to in your words defund.

            You are stuck in MORON Mode until you shift gears you are going to drive yourself insane ( as if you aren’t there now) and pass out.

            Libertas inaestimabilis res est
            Semper-Fi

        • TheOriginalDaveH

          Yeah Ron, and the Congress is not supposed to bribe and coerce votes either, but they did. Live with it.

          • Ron r

            Go play or go to sleep

          • Larry Christopher

            LOL…what an intelligent post…NOT!

          • Ron r

            Yeah, and this is the page all intellectuals come to.

          • Ron r

            Yeah , you are right. Like the Koch brothers bribed the idiots who follow Teddy Cruz. I wonder how much money they gave them at the secret meeting they had. Or has the Reich wing media let you in on that.

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            Do you have any evidence to back up your conjecture, Ron?

        • pnwdave

          You really should get your facts straight. And it would help if you had an understanding of the Constitution.

        • BHR

          If you know how to read, read the Constitution. The facts are in the Constitution. Obamacare has not been funded. Your statements show you are very ignorant and have no political education.

          • Ron r

            If you know how to pass and repeal laws you would know you don’t refund them . Read , read, read!!!!

          • J.

            “Refund”. LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL. Leftist ideology, when all else fails act like a fool and make unfounded accusations to redirect attention. How does it feel to be owned by barry and his clowns ??

          • Ron r

            If the ACA is being implemented as you complain. The first portion has been in place for a couple of years now. Read your constitution. You repeal or amend laws. not defund them. End of Story. This was a failed attempt from the start and the dumb a## grand standing by house republicfascist have caused them to paint themselves into a corner that they hope the president will help them get out of. and if I were him I would say to them. To hell with you all!!!

        • Frank Kahn

          Maybe you live in a different universe than the rest of us. If, as you lie, the ACA is already funded, then why is Reid refusing to sign an appropriations bill that does not include funding for ACA?

          And, you might check the history of appropriations. I think you will find that refusing to fund things has been used quite often. It is one of the powers given to congress, and more specifically the house.

      • B

        I’m a constitutionalist! Well done :)

    • B

      Your right, they have been removed and threatened with arrest while the immigration rally goes off without a hitch, if you can’t see why people are angry there is little hope for you!! I think even you Ron can see Obama is overstepping at great lengths to cause Americans extreme discomfort on purpose. True that I don’t like Obamas policies at all, I hold all three branches accountable because they are all equal in power and supposed to work in concert! I have to side with Republicans because they are showing fiscal responsibilty/ listening to the majority and Obama has shut them down five times to save his baby that nearly all financial experts have doomed to failure. He bashed Bush in 2006 for raising the debt limit and now he has added more to the deficit in 5 years than bush did in 8. How would you like it if I forced you to buy one of several cars, at the price I name, tell you when you can drive it, and make you pay a penalty for life, when you decide it’s not worth it and you’ld rather walk! As you are now yoked with a penalty for life, as your walking down the street to go to work as true contributor to society to feed ur family, your neighbor on welfare passes you in a Ferrari that your penalty for life is helping to pay for. It’s extortion through force.

      • Ron r

        There have been no vets arrested. The idiots in the house don’t even have the courage to stand up to what they did. Maybe if the dems had defended the Bush Irag war we would have not had the. Casualties we are dealing with now. Oh , but that was a war an Bush was a war time president. I guess it’s different for Obama, he’s only got one war. But a war none the less. Do not negotiate with republiterroist!!!

        • TheOriginalDaveH

          Oh poor baby. Is your thieving Gang being unduly picked on?

          • Ron r

            Get help !!

        • Larry Christopher

          If only you had a real clue about what is going on…however, your ultimate stupidity is staggering. You are right about one thing (but only one)…as far as I know, there were no vets arrested at the monument. Just because Barry & Company erected barricades to keep these men and women out of an open-air monument doesn’t mean there were any arrested when they went through. Just because Barry & Company put up stronger barricades and wired them shut to keep American citizens out means nothing to a fellow socialist. Just because Barry & Company let that same area be filled with ILLEGALS so they can protest this country means absolutely noting to your fellow Communists. But let’s bring out the old “Blame Bush Playbook”…that’s all Progressives have to bring up. No substance…no facts. You take your talking points from the idiots on the Liberal Left…that have no truth…no facts…and THINK you make an intelligent point. What a shame…another low information fool trying to make Barry and Harry Reid out to be good people. It doesn’t work anymore. People are starting to see them as being the evil ones leading the charge for the destruction of this country. I hope you wake up from your stupor soon.

          • Ron r

            Well if I’m stupid you must be feeling really STUPID to answer my post IDIOT!!! Facts, you go to every Reich wing page in the country and fox “News” and you want to talk about facts. The facts are that the domestic terrorist that were elected to congress from stacked districts came in with a plan to shut down the government. they like you were so dumb that they never considered that it would effect veterans, active duty military or the national Parks. They like you idiot, I say idiot because you guys love to name call when someone disagrees with you, its like you have nothing else left in you Reich wing wacko minds except name calling. Anyway, the terrorist in the house never had an end game, they just thought the opposition would simply fold. seems like Bush thought that about Iraq. did he not???? The problem with these hostage takers is that there is no talking to them because they don’t like the hostage they have taken (government) and will most likely kill it any way.
            Stevie Wonder said it best in his song Big Brother. You’ll cause your own country to fall. Moron!!!!

          • Frank Kahn

            Low intelligent people, like you, should not throw around the word moron. The GOP in the house have legally exercised their constitutional right and obligation to refuse to fund a controversial law. Their refusal to fund that single law, in no way means they shut down the government. That distinction goes to the senate democrats for throwing a temper tantrum and demanding to get their way on obamacare.

          • Ron r

            First I will say that if you are so intelligent why do you waste your time on this site?? The GOP has managed to hijack the entire government and are now looking for a way to get out of the straight jacket they have put themselves in. You damn right they shut the government down and Bachman. Louie Ghomer, and that Canadian Cruz laughed about the shut down.. Bachman said she has not seen republicans this happy in a long time. so stop the low information b/s.Go to Fixed News she was on there when she said it. Just how dumb can you be to not know veterans, and active duty would be hit by your b/s tea party move. Like I said, You repeal LAWS not defund them. The idiots in the house have decided that they will say to hell with the 2 elections and we’ll come up with another hare brain reason to defy the voters. hello, did you know there was an election that was LOST by your dumb a## party??? So don’t give me that lame excuse that congress can defund any thing they want, because you have two houses and that’s saying that the senate can fund what they want. Your argument makes no damn sense.. Or do you think like the other freshman idiot in the house that said there are 4 branches of government. The 4th being Teddy and the Cruzers.
            Using your illogical argument, congress could simply defund the civil rights act , along with the voting rights act. Reid, Obama , and the dems had nothing to do with the shut down. your foolish republican house of domestic terrorist had planed this since their arrival. The temper tantrum was thrown by house republiturds who trier to defund a LAW after trying to repeal it 41 times. You are not low information, you are in denial. people like you talk a good b/s game. Key board activist. The vote does not matter because I hear Obama won because 4 million illegals were allowed to vote. How damn intelligent is that BUSTER!!! GOOD NIGHT SIR!!!!

          • Frank Kahn

            So, you are just as big of a whining crybaby as Reid?

            “First I will say that if you are so intelligent why do you waste your time on this site?? ”

            Making a stupid comment that actually applies to yourself as well, does not enhance your argument.

            “The GOP has managed to hijack the entire government
            and are now looking for a way to get out of the straight jacket they have put themselves in. ”

            Actually if you pay attention to what is actually happening, you will find that Obama and Reid have hijacked the government. And they have attempted to put us all in a tyrannical straight jacket.

            “You damn right they shut the government down ”

            Yes, Reid and the democrats shut down the government because they are too immature to accept the reality of the law of the land, the constitution.

            “and Bachman. Louie Ghomer, and that Canadian Cruz laughed about the shut down.. ”

            Site your source for this absurd claim.

            “Bachman said she has not seen republicans this happy in a long time. ”

            Maybe they are happy that the citizens have finally woke up to the tyranny of the government.

            “so stop the low information b/s.Go to Fixed News she was on there when she said it. ”

            Stop your baby whining and talk like an adult, there is no such thing as fixed news.

            “Just how dumb can you be to not know veterans, and
            active duty would be hit by your b/s tea party move. Like I said, ”

            Yes, how dumb can we be to not realize the depths to which the insane asswipe Obama will sink. Of course, Obama will deny every citizen of the nation anything he can force shut down to prove he is a god.

            “You repeal LAWS not defund them. ”

            NOPE, when the other two parts of the process are insane and trying to enforce their agenda on the nation, then you defund the crap.

            “The idiots in the house have decided that they will say to hell with the 2 elections and we’ll come up with another hare brain reason to defy the voters. ”

            The voters did not vote for the ACA in any election.

            “hello, did you know there was an election that was LOST by your dumb a## party??? So don’t give me that lame excuse that congress can defund any thing they want, because you have two houses and that’s saying that the senate can fund what they want. ”

            NO THE SENATE CANNOT FUND ANYTHING/

            “Your argument makes no damn sense.. Or do you think like the other freshman idiot in the house that said there are 4 branches of government. The 4th being Teddy and the Cruzers.”

            DON’T BE ABSURD.

            “Using your illogical argument, congress could simply defund the civil rights act , along with the voting rights act. ”

            Yes, they can defund anything.

            “Reid, Obama , and the dems had nothing to do
            with the shut down. your foolish republican house of domestic terrorist had planed this since their arrival. ”

            The house has sent several appropriation bills to the senate for everything but obamacare. The senate refuses to sign it without obamacare.

            “The temper tantrum was thrown by house republiturds who trier to defund a LAW after trying to repeal it
            41 times. You are not low information, you are in denial. people like you talk a good b/s game. Key board activist. The vote does not matter because I hear Obama won because 4 million illegals were allowed to vote. How damn intelligent is that BUSTER!!! GOOD NIGHT SIR!!!!”

            The election of Obama does not count because the election was not about Obamacare.

          • J.

            Speaking of wasting time on this site. Oh wait, typical leftist dribble. What applies to you does not apply to me. Hypocrit

          • J.

            Take your medication with your Kool-aid and don’t worry. barry the liar will not let your welfare check lapse. He knows how to keep you “Paid Off”

        • J.

          Idiot. Your lord and savior “barry the liar voted for the wars and made a fortune in bringing the military-industrio complex to parts of chicago.

      • Ron r

        There were arrest made at the immigration rally. The majority elected Obama president for a second term. Did you miss that election or does it count. Also the Senate is controlled by dems. Here’s the deal. When the ACA was being formulated the republican leadership of both houses told their members not to conference with, not to discuss, and to no work at all with democrats. It was at that time they could have made adjustments to it saw where the dems were going with it and raised concerns about it. But they wanted no part of it. Now after not reading it they tell you they know all the ups and downs of the bill. Well .how is that?? This is so unlike a car. How would you like it if you had medical coverage and I did not, and every time my family of 6 went to the emergency room your policy increased?? that’s more like it. But now you don’t have to. Or how would you like it if you were putting paperwork together for you and me to buy a business together but I wanted nothing to do with reading the contracts with you. Every time you ask I said no. Then after the business is obtained I came back and said I never wanted that business and surely did not want it for the price paid. So give me all I put in and you suffer any loss???

    • pnwdave

      And, if you are the house of represetatives, you can to to NOT fund them! See Thomas Sowell’s article of last friday.

    • disqus_Y38bxN0VuX

      congress has the right not to fund obamcare…

  • Mark

    That bastard Barry allows eligal emigrant to hang out but won’t allow our heroes to enjoy the monument they fought for! Empeach this POS

    • Betta

      Barry is also an illegal himself. But he’s not an immigrant. He’s an illegal alien breaking the law by being here. If it were you or me the FBI CIA and their mother would hunt us down like dogs and throw us in prison. Yet this Kenya native is POTUS dragging us down the path to socialism and Marxism.

      I know where you can see with your own eyes this guy is an illegal fraudster. Google this:

      “Kenyan-born Obama All set for the US Senate.” That’s the title of the article with obama’s face on it. It was written when he and Paul Ryan were running for a senate seat.

      You will be taken to the archives of the wayback machine to see an article written on June, 27, 2004 in the Sunday Standard located in Nairobi Kenya. It’s written in English.

      Now, I’d like to see somebody with the sack to confront him with it when he is not expecting it. Being caught with his pants down so to speak. Yeah, come on, Barry. Lets do an interview. Got a few questions for you.

      Does Sheriff Arpaio have this info? If not I believe he should have it.

      • peter

        The drone is on its way to you now and will make a pass by Sheriff Arpaio’s cabin as well.

      • Ron r

        And why would you believe anything that comes from Kenya. How about a news paper I have from Kenya that says he was not born there??? But Let’s for the sake of argument say he is all you say. It must make you feel about knee high to a nats a## that no one believes you. How does that make you feel that a man from Kenya with no slave blood in his system is running your country into the ground . and there aint a damn thing you can do about it!!!! America, what a country of fools!!!

        • J.

          Ron I do not like to insult people I do not know; however, you are a horses ass. barry is an american citizen by blood. His mother was born and raised in Kansas. She made her living as a student and courtisan. Although; she did teach barry three things 1. When the going gets tough, go to the welfare office and pick up a check. 2. Welfare is a career choice. 3. When confronted play the victim, race, down-trodden, victim card. This he has done to perfection. 47% of the population sowed the wind, now they also get to reap the whirlwind of the spoiled brat.

  • Mark

    I say lets back these wonderful truckers who have the balls to say up yours you POS. he says to not pay for our children who fight for our freedom funeral. This man and he’s family need to be sterilized.

    • B

      AMEN!!!!! :)

  • mari

    He is so arrogant that he can’t understand why people are disgusted with this behavior. He thinks we are idiots who don’t realize that he continues to campaign by being excessively, unnecessarily punitive.

  • ChuckS123

    Maybe make some signs out of paper, roll them up, take them and tape to the barrycades at open-air things. With text like “This didn’t need to be shut down – Obama’s being nasty.” Or “It costs more to shut this down than keep it open – Obama’s being nasty.”

  • Libertarian Soldier

    These are the people you have to hand your medical care, your medical information? These people want to be in charge of everything to do with your body? Ideologues, do you think you’ll always have a democrat in the executive? After this, do you trust an angry, vengeful republican party? Is this what you want, going forward? Is this the tone of politics you’re looking forward to after the backlash?

    Things like this stick in the memory of those who have been wronged.

    Once the ruling party has control of your healthcare, democrats, for now, what will they do when they don’t get their way with something else? They seem to be aiming at the most helpless of our citizens, servicemen no longer able to defend the country, themselves and their families; seniors; war veterans; sick and elderly; children; sick children…

    Will signups for healtcare be the program closed to make a point? Will veterans’ wives have no access? Will grandma be cut off from her insulin? Is that what we want our pResident to do, pretend it’s 2010 and send the irs after anybody that might tend to vote the other way?

    This is why we use the processes left by our founders to resist the evils of a tyrannical executive and an overreaching government that has usurped the powers enumerated to the House by the Constitution but allowing freedoms to groups that advance his political agenda (allowing an immigration march, protest where he’d already spent money to barricade off the open air, public mall.

    Shame, shame! Bet the propaganda ministry doesn’t cover it.

    If there’s something that is assured, what goes around comes around.

  • Motov

    Obozo is just being what the party’s mascot is, and witnessing how Obozocare is broken on day one, tells me that is just the tip of the iceberg, Obozocare is far more flawed than they’ll ever admit.
    The shutdown is the fault of both parties. Obozo is acting like a little child in a candy store having a tantrum because “mommy” won’t buy him a treat.
    These MORONS just don’t get it,….WE ARE BROKE and they still want to spend like there is no tomorrow, and that just may happen.
    Ron Paul warned us we cannot keep going like this, Federal “cuts” are a joke,.
    Increased taxes won’t save the budget, There is no revenue sources left to tax.
    Obozocare will destroy the budget.
    Since our criminals in Washington DC have no clue what the words “Repent and sin no more”, We need to march right down,… and kick their sorry butts right into a maximum security facility. But WE deserve what we get because we do not have the guts to DEMAND OUR GOVERNMENT to do what is right.

  • rbrooks

    the gop claims they want to end government waste. they voted to pay people who are not working.

    the gop does not want to fund health care for american citizens. but none of the politicians have voted to end their taxpayer funded health care.

    nor have these republicans voted to end foreign aid, corporate welfare, the two wars….. or any of the politicians numerous perks.

    • pnwdave

      Unfortunately, the American people did not have an opportunity to vote on taxpayer funded healthcare. It was passed on a strict partly line vote, all deomcrats in favor, all republicans opposed. Tyranny of the majority is still tyranny. Thank God for the Republicans standing up for those of us who work for a living!

      • rbrooks

        the american people are not allowed to vote for most of the bills that are passed.

        like the patriot act.

        • B

          At the time the majority of citizens thought it was necessary, I personally never wanted it, it broke down barriers of intel sharing between agencies but the dictator-in-chief brought it to a whole new level with NDAA, just like a true communist!!!

          • rbrooks

            you think bush is a communist?

        • J.

          Was the patriot act signed in the wee hours of the morning behind closed doors ?? And when it was signed did some senators suddenly find a windfall of federal grants at the doorstep ??

    • Larry Christopher

      This is a very funny post…Why just the “GOP”? Let’s break down your foolishness…

      1. “the gop claims they want to end government waste.” That is about the only thing you actually have right…so I don’t need to comment on this one.

      2. “they voted to pay people who are not working.” Guess what…that’s called the “Unemployment Tax”…and this was a BIPARTISAN endeavor.

      3. “the gop does not want to fund health care for american citizens.” Thank GOD they don’t want to fund health care for American Citizens! Health Care is not a RIGHT! Why can’t you idiotic socialists understand that you are only taking from people that WORK and giving it to people who are mostly too LAZY to do anything on their own????

      4. “but none of the politicians have voted to end their taxpayer funded health care.” Actually, you are wrong again. The GOP has put a bill before the Socialist Harry Reid and the Communist Barry Obama that says the Government should be under the SAME health care law as the rest of the country. THE DEMOCRATS FLATLY REJECTED IT. This is a well known and documented FACT. The sad thing is…low information people such as yourself don’t want to understand or believe the truth.

      5. “nor have these republicans voted to end foreign aid, corporate welfare, the two wars….. or any of the politicians numerous perks.”

      Again…another foolish comment. Your boy Barry is the one that continues to give the most foreign aid of any president…the biggest problem is, he is sending it to the MUSLIM countries that hate us the most! As far as corporate welfare…the GOP has sent another bill before the Senate to eliminate the big businesses waivers on the biggest corporate welfare of all (Obamacare)…again, this was shot down by Obama and Harry Reid. You talk about the two wars…but it seems to me, Barry has already committed money to the 3rd one…in Libya…remember that country? That’s where he left 4 Americans to be murdered by his friends…the real terrorists. He also wants to start another one with Syria.. Nope…again, this is NOT the REPUBLICANS…this is all done by the LIBERALS / SOCIALISTS / COMMUNISTS / PROGRESSIVES OF THE DEMOCRAT PARTY.

      You are backing the enemies of America…I sincerely hope you wake up.

      • rbrooks

        3. “the gop does not want to fund health care for american citizens.”
        Thank GOD they don’t want to fund health care for American Citizens!
        Health Care is not a RIGHT! Why can’t you idiotic socialists understand
        that you are only taking from people that WORK and giving it to people
        who are mostly too LAZY to do anything on their own???? <

        those lazy politicians, that you support, are living off of the tax payers. it is also interesting that this country continues to fund health care for foreign citizens as well as the politicians.

        the foreign aid that the gop continues to fund. they have shown they could stop that if they wanted to.

        the gop counts on you to allow them to continue.

        and you are dumb enough to oblige them.

        • Larry Christopher

          The politicians I support are the ones trying to get the Democrats to stop sucking the blood out of this country. It is the DEMOCRATS that continue the foreign aid against the MINORITY of the GOP in the SENATE. The House has already tried to send bills to block foreign to countries that are our enemies…however none of these bills come up on the Senate floor for a vote because Harry Reid does not allow them.

          Learn before you speak…you may not look so stupid.

          • rbrooks

            lol. you mean the current bills trying to stop the gop bills of the past that funded that foreign aid.

          • B

            Before the coup ya mean, when we had the full cooperation of that government. Muslim brotherhood want you dead!! Stupid argument!

        • B

          Some foreign aid must continue, call it bribe money to use their waterways and airspace for ops, but Republicans did cut most of the arms that is part of those aid packages, so what you got now?

        • B

          Some foreign aid must continue, call it bribe money to use their waterways and airspace for ops, but Republicans did cut most of the arms that is part of those aid packages, so what you got now?

          • rbrooks

            why a need for ops? but we have not cut aid for arms.

    • J.

      And have done all these things hand in hand with the democrats

  • BHR

    Obama and Reid will lie about facts to get their way. They only want power. Who ever gets in their way must be destroyed.

  • rbrooks

    http://www.newsinferno.com/federal-health-agencies-during-shutdown-no-food-poisoning-flu-surveillance/

    bob got his wish. the underground restaurants no longer have to worry about the food they serve.

    • Frank Kahn

      You mean Obama and Reid got what they demanded

  • IBCAMN

    so why is Reid telling everyone the gov’t is going to default on it’s bills and all SS payments and pension and benefits and such will stop indefinitly?
    well besides lying-they are betting most other liberals and democrates will not bother checking to see if that’s true and that most Americans will just believe him!obama supporters will just blindly follow and he knows it!he’s betting that’s what will happen!i guess it’s working,because the obama supporters are just doing that and even allowing illegal aliens to trample on gov’t memorials(that Americans cant go near)and not say a word about it!
    the gov’t has plenty of income to pay and is not gonna stop!but obama and Reid are not telling anybody that in-public!
    obama is going down in history as the worst president ever!

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  • Kevin Page

    While you may disagree as to which party is more responsible for the shutdown, the administration is responsible for determining “essential” personnel and managing the available resources effectively. (The chief executive of any corporation would hold the same responsibility.) It is especially egregious that the Commander-in-Chief and Secretary of Defense did not act to reinstate death benefits for the families of our military heroes that recently died for this country. The absence of leadership at the top of the military chain-of-command is despicable.

  • jag

    When will he b charged , Impeached, and tried for ALL the CRIMES HE HAS COMMITED AGAINST THE AMERICAN PEOPLE! WE ALL NEED TO GROW A PAIR AND GET RID OF THIS MUSLIM! The dictater HATES U.S!

  • B

    I friggin hate when Dems refer to Dumbasscare as the law of the land!!!! The Constitution is the law of the land!!!