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The Lie That Should Sink Obama

July 27, 2012 by  

The Lie That Should Sink Obama
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The words "you didn't build that" may sink Barack Obama's campaign.

If there is one sentence that determines who will win this year’s Presidential election, I hope it will be Barack Obama’s incredible statement that “you didn’t build that.”

In just four short words, Obama confirmed his bias against America’s business builders and job creators — the men and women who slaved and sacrificed to help make us the wealthiest, most productive and most generous Nation the world has ever known.

Yes, I know, I’ll be accused of taking his words out of context. That he really wasn’t engaging in the blatant, anti-business bias I’ve accused him of. Baloney! Let’s look more closely at exactly what our Great Leader said. Here is a verbatim quote from his campaign speech in Roanoke, Va., on July 13:

[L]ook, if you’ve been successful, you didn’t get there on your own. You didn’t get there on your own. I’m always struck by people who think, well, it must be because I was just so smart. There are a lot of smart people out there. It must be because I worked harder than everybody else. Let me tell you something — there are a whole bunch of hardworking people out there.

If you were successful, somebody along the line gave you some help. There was a great teacher somewhere in your life. Somebody helped to create this unbelievable American system that we have that allowed you to thrive. Somebody invested in roads and bridges. If you’ve got a business — you didn’t build that. Somebody else made that happen.

Obama’s apologists like to claim that the President was merely referring to “roads and bridges” when he said “you didn’t build that.” What a bunch of nonsense! First of all, let me play grammarian here and point out that “roads and bridges” are plural, not singular. Anyone with a fifth-grade education, much less two college degrees, would know to say “you didn’t build those,” not “that.”

Moreover, if you try to accept the apologists’ explanation, then you have to admit that Obama not only made a grammatical mistake, he made a factual one as well. Anyone who drives a car or truck did pay for those “roads and bridges.” All of this infrastructure (and a lot more besides) was financed by the taxes on the fuel we used.

No, the message the President was trying to convey seems pretty clear to me: Every successful entrepreneur in America owes a debt of gratitude — and a lot more taxes — to government. Not only that, but the more successful you are, the more you owe.

So Henry Ford can’t take credit for giving birth to the automobile industry. Thomas Edison would never have invented the light bulb if it weren’t for “somebody else” who made it happen. Steve Jobs, Bill Gates and thousands of other modern builders and inventors wouldn’t have succeeded if it weren’t for the helping hand of government.

In fact, the Harry Reids and Nancy Pelosis of this world go even further. They seem to believe that government is entitled to all of the money you make. And anytime our beneficent rulers allow you to keep some of your earnings, it is somehow doing you a favor. How else can you explain the attitude that cutting your taxes is somehow giving you a subsidy? That letting us keep anything is doing us a favor?

If “you didn’t build that,” then you really have no right to own it or control it. If “you didn’t build that,” then government is entitled to tax it, to regulate it, even to seize it, if it so desires. If “somebody else made that happen,” then government has every right to seize what you have and share it with “somebody else.”

The truth is 180 degrees the opposite of what these grade-school Marxists proclaim: Most business creators and job builders in this country have succeeded in spite of government, not because of it. And they would have been able to invest a lot more money, take a lot more risk, build more businesses and create more jobs, if they had been allowed to keep more of the money they earned.

Dan Danner, the president and CEO of the National Federation of Independent Businesses, has this to say about Obama’s comments:

His unfortunate remarks over the weekend show an utter lack of understanding and appreciation for the people who take a huge personal risk and work endless hours to start a business and create jobs.

I’m sure every small-business owner who took a second mortgage on their home, maxed out their credit cards or borrowed money from their own retirement savings to start their business disagrees strongly with President Obama’s claim.

I certainly hope so.

One of Mitt Romney’s favorite campaign themes is how the coming election will be a battle for the soul of America. “Do we believe in an America that is great because of government?” the presumptive Republican nominee has asked. “Or do we believe in an America that is great because of free people allowed to pursue their dreams to build their future?”

In this debate, there can be no doubt where our redistributionist President stands. We’ve got less than 100 days left before Americans get to cast their vote on which vision of the future they want.

Will the builders and creators and those who support them work as hard as the takers and receivers and those who pander to them? We’ll soon find out.

Until next time, keep some powder dry.

–Chip Wood 

Chip Wood

is the geopolitical editor of PersonalLiberty.com. He is the founder of Soundview Publications, in Atlanta, where he was also the host of an award-winning radio talk show for many years. He was the publisher of several bestselling books, including Crisis Investing by Doug Casey, None Dare Call It Conspiracy by Gary Allen and Larry Abraham and The War on Gold by Anthony Sutton. Chip is well known on the investment conference circuit where he has served as Master of Ceremonies for FreedomFest, The New Orleans Investment Conference, Sovereign Society, and The Atlanta Investment Conference.

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  • CHRISTOPHER ALLEN HORTON

    THE KENYAN’S STATEMENT, “If you were successful, somebody along the line gave you some help.,” IS A TRADITIONAL NEGRO STATEMENT DATING FROM SLAVERY TIMES.

    DURING SLAVERY, NEGROES BELIEVED THEIR “GOD” – “Allah” FOR AFRICAN-BORN SLAVES AND “Jesus Christ” FOR AMERICAN-BORN SLAVES – WOULD BE [AND, WAS IN THE LATE 1860s] THEIR “SAVIOR” FROM BONDAGE. THEREFORE, THEY CONSIDERED THEIR “GOD” TO BE THEIR “ULTIMATE HELP.” SINCE SLAVERY, NEGROES HAVE GIVEN “GOD” ALL THE CREDIT FOR GOOD AND BAD THINGS WHICH HAPPEN TO THEM IN LIFE. ACCORDING TO NEGROES, IF YOU GO TO COLLEGE, OR, GET A JOB PROMOTION (FOR EXAMPLES), “The Lord did it!”

    THEREFORE, THE KENYAN’S STATEMENT HAS BEEN HEARD SEVERAL TIMES IN THE LIVES OF NEGROES. I AM QUITE SURE THE KENYAN FIRST HEARD THIS IDEOLOGICAL STATEMENT DURING HIS CHILDHOOD.

    SO CAUCASIANS, HE IS SAYING BUSINESS OWNERS ARE ONLY SUCCESSFUL BECAUSE OF THE, “Lord’s help.” IN NEGROES’ OPINION [I GUESS, EVEN IN A "PARTIAL" ONE], NO ONE CAN DO N-O-T-H-I-N-G, WITHOUT THE “Lord.”

    • Harold Olsen

      In one speech on this subject, Obama state that the entrepreneur didn’t build his business but the government did. Not reference to God was made. Besides, many white Christians thank the Lord for their success.

      • CHRISTOPHER ALLEN HORTON

        “Harold Olsen,”

        YOU MISSED MY POINT. NEGROES CAN NOT COMPLETE TWO SENTENCES WITHOUT A RELIGIOUS REFERENCE. NEGROES “CALL UPON” THE “Lord” FOR EVERYTHING.

        I AM NOT SAYING CAUCASIANS ARE NOT RELIGIOUS. I AM SAYING YOU CAN HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH CAUCASIANS WITHOUT RELIGIOUS REFERENCES.

        NEGROES NO LONGER TELL PEOPLE, “Goodbye” – NOW, THEY SAY, “Have a blessed day,” WITH NO REGARD OF WHETHER THE RECIPIENT CONSIDERS EVERY DAY TO BE A “blessing.”

      • CHRISTOPHER ALLEN HORTON

        “Harold Olsen,”

        YOUR COMMENTS PROVE YOU HAVE LITTLE INTERACTION WITH NEGROES. THERE IS NO WAY YOU COULD INTERACT WITH NEGROES AND NOT KNOW WHAT I AM TALKING ABOUT.

      • http://www.facebook.com/rerogersjr Rick Rogers

        By your words your showing your bigoted thoughts. Negro has been considered offensive for more years then I can count but you use it anyway. It’s not being PC that I am talking about its just being polite

      • Chester

        Chris, IF you are going to talk about what god the African slaves referred to, best get your FACTS straight. First and foremost, the Muslims were slave takers, NOT slaves themselves. Most of the Africans taken as slaves had their own tribal gods, and yes, gods as in more than one. They were not exposed to our monotheistic ways until after they were captured, and in many cases, aboard ships heading for the Americas. As far as Obama’s statement about “you didn’t build that”, ever try turning it around and saying “you didn’t build those?” Also, he could just as easily have been referring to all the infrastructure as a unit, roads, bridges, water and sewer lines, electricity supply, and all the rest of the things you HAVE to have to build a modern business. Can you walk out in the middle of the wilderness and build a successful business with gross income exceeding a thousand dollars a day? You MIGHT be able to do it, but you are going to have to do a LOT of property improvement first, and that is not going to come cheap, whether in actual cash outlay or physical labor on your part. More than likely it will take both, unless you have the ability to make your shovels and axes, and all the rest of the needed hand tools, from scratch.

      • Nancy in Nebraska

        To Rick Rogers and the rest of you, Christopher Horton is a black man. If he wants to call black people “negros”, what’s it to you? Is it surprising to hear from a conservative black man? Is it surprising if he doesn’t abide in political correctness? I think he can call himself whatever he wants regardless that WE find it shocking. He is here sharing things from a black perspective. If we critisize and not listen how will we know what black people are thinking and what their basic upbringing is. Very few of us can see things through their eyes so it would benefit all of us to learn what their core beliefs are. When you accuse him of being racist you are pointing out your own bias and political correctness. Let the man be who he is and we can all learn something from him.

      • TML

        Chester says, “Can you walk out in the middle of the wilderness and build a successful business with gross income exceeding a thousand dollars a day? You MIGHT be able to do it, but you are going to have to do a LOT of property improvement first, and that is not going to come cheap, whether in actual cash outlay or physical labor on your part.”

        That would be called a farm, much like the first settlers of the frontier, genius… so the answer to that would be yes, you absolutely can. I suppose Obama would say those settlers didn’t build that either.

        Chester says, “Also, he could just as easily have been referring to all the infrastructure as a unit, roads, bridges, water and sewer lines, electricity supply, and all the rest of the things you HAVE to have to build a modern business.”

        He is indeed talking about such things as a whole, but the only obvious conclusion for saying such things in the context of his speech was as Chip pointed out…. Obama is saying that “every successful entrepreneur in America owes a debt of gratitude — and a lot more taxes — to government. Not only that, but the more successful you are, the more you owe.”

        P.S. To the rest of the posters; there’s nothing wrong with saying Negro… and you don’t have to be black to say it…. Negro literally means Black in Spanish, ugh

        And to CHRISTOPHER ALLEN HORTON………. LAY OFF THE CAPS, MAN!

      • Gordon

        just because CAH is black doesn’t mean he speaks for the negro race nor the negro culture in the USA. Fact from my experience, generally speaking, is that educated blacks are totally different people from the inner city and the southern slave decendent blacks. Their viewpoint of life and culture is diametrically opposite. There are no cultural similarities at all, unless they force themselves into “black” of it. 20 yrs ago I had a black neighbor who wouldn’t let his brother’s hip-hop, backwards hats, saggy pants, filthy mouth, theiving, ghetto talking kids on his property….. and they had “in the yard” arguments about it. Fact is that good moral adult people of any racial or ethnic decendency abhor the pathetic cultural values that are destroying the USA and what we stand for. Including “red neck Billy Bob and his camo pickup” culture that hides under the blanket of patriotism. Respect. Lack of self respect and respect for other is the whole problem and salvation (or destrtuction) of the USA, is the values and guidance that the PARENTS have given their children on their life’s journey. Since the 60s, we have the blind leading the blind, and they both fall into the ditch. 99% of the problems occur because of the parents. Without strong parental guidance all culture is doomed. period.

      • CHRISTOPHER ALLEN HORTON

        “Chester,”

        BEFORE CAUCASIANS COLONIZED AFRICA, MOSLEMS HAD ALREADY BROUGHT ISLAM TO SUB-SAHARAN AFRICA. AN EASY EXAMPLE IS Kunta Kinte AND THE OTHER AFRICAN-BORN SLAVES IN THE FILM, “Roots” – THEY WERE MOSLEMS.

      • Mike in MI

        Christopher Allen Horton – Well said, sir.
        You have to forgive these people who don’t have much understanding of the Book they claim to believe – the Bible. The Africans used, and evidently from what you say…still do, the same phraseology as the ancient writers like Moses and all the other holy men of God who were “moved by the Holy Spirit” to write what they wrote. It shows how all those people had the same or very similar linguistic background.The Hebrews had the exact same usage in ascribing evil deeds to God and He took it because He has wide shoulders. He did not want the Hebrews to spend their time in focus on the Devil and his doings – for various reasons. So instead he was content to let them lay the blame or praise on Him for virtually everything. In the Old Testament the people could not be spiritual (John 7:39 – ” holy spirit was not yet given, because that Jesus was not yet glorified.” That’s what Jesus Christ came to make available to those who accept him and what he has to offer.)
        That’s a great insight you’ve given me into that part of our culture. One I had no knowledge of. Helps me understand a whole lot of things I had experienced and could have been pleased – but wasn’t.
        I’m grateful.
        You wites who think you’ve got a clue – - -??? – - – you’re hapless.

      • CHRISTOPHER ALLEN HORTON

        “Nancy in Nebraska,”

        THANKS MA’AM FOR YOUR KIND WORDS.

        PEOPLE ARE CHOSING TO TWIST MY WORDS TO FIT THEIR AGENDAS.

        SLAVES BORN IN AFRICA WERE ALREADY MOSLEMS AT THE TIME OF EUROPEAN CAPTURE. Kunta Kinte AND HIS PARENTS [FROM, "Roots"] WERE MOSLEMS. IF YOU DO NOT BELIEVE ME CHECK HISTORICAL DATA.

        “Chester” TWISTED MY WORDS AND STATED I SAID SLAVE OWNERS WERE MOSLEMS. “Chester” LIED!

        I STAND BY E-V-E-R-Y WORD I WRITE!

      • CHRISTOPHER ALLEN HORTON

        “Mike in MI,”

        SIR, THANKS FOR THE KIND WORDS. I FEEL LIKE I AM UNDER ATTACK BY PEOPLE WHO HAVE NO UNDERSTANDING OF NEGRO CULTURE AND RELIGION.

      • http://www.PicklingTheBeast.blogspot.com pj Connolly

        If CHRISTOPHER ALLEN HORTON is black, I’m Alice in Wonderland! He may PRETEND to be black, but that dude is as cracker as they come. Nice try, though.

      • CHRISTOPHER ALLEN HORTON

        “pj Connolly,”

        MA’AM, OBVIOUSLY, YOU HAVE NOT READ MY COMMENTS IN OTHER THREADS; THE “Gays in Boy Scouts” THREAD SHOULD ALLEVIATE YOUR CONFUSION.

      • eddie47d

        Christopher is probably right that some slaves that came to America were Muslims since most came here in the 1700′s long before Africa was colonized by Europe and Christian ministers.

      • Stephen Tareila

        I most certainly thank the Lord. Remember the “Protestant Work Ethic”? As far as the title to this article, “The lie that should sink Obama”, I hope that it will but seriously doubt it.

        Obama said many things which should have ensured the victory of McCain or almost any Republican but he still won, even Virginia, N. Carolina and Florida. Is he winning in these states today? Where are the Republicans making meaningful inroads into Obama’s electoral count?

        Small business owners like myself didn’t vote for him last time and Blacks voted overwhelmingly for him last time. Will this or any article change those results?
        Women love him despite his fondness for a religion that is oppressive to women. This article doesn’t change that.

        As I blogged often during the primaries, Romney is a weak candidate and not charismatic like Obama, who unfortunately is. We needed Palin to break up the fallow ground but she did not run.

        Do you think we need a Conservative President to appoint conservatives to the courts, especially the Supreme Court? I can assure you that liberals have turned that argument on me since Bush’s appointee, Roberts, voted to uphold Obamacare and it was his vote that counted. This article doesn’t nullify that election destroying travesty. Independents in the swing(purple) states must be won to Romney’s camp but how and when?

        I hope that I’m wrong, but you’d best prepare for 4 more years. Sorry.

      • http://PeronalLiberty Alondra

        Rick Rogers wrote: “…your bigoted thoughts. Negro has been considered offensive … It’s not being PC that I am talking about its just being polite.”

        Rick, Negro is one, who belongs to the Negroid RACE. And Negro should not be considered offensive, but not long ago (historically) there were “civil rights” activist like al sharpton or jesse jackson who did not like this term, because some people used the word in a derogatory manner, especially in the time of the Jim Crow Law (1876 – 1965).

        But who mostly use the word Negro derogatorily? Surprise, surprise – DEMONcrats, who in 1870s increasingly returned to the power, especially in the southern states because they intimidated opponents and attacked Negros, preventing them from voting. (Isn’t familiar picture, Rick?) But when DEMONcrats started to lose elections, they suddenly became profoundly sentimental and heartrending toward Negros, because they needed additional votes. And from 1960’s DEMONcrats started rewrite history and invented PC. Since then to use word NEGRO become profoundly offensive and no longer in technical use and in those occasions when the word itself must be discussed, as in court or in a newspaper editorial or on TV it was replaced by “the n-word.” Thus the word NEGRO became taboo.

        For example homosexuals hate to be called HOMOSEXUAL. They want that everybody call them GAYS. But if you will call PIG a CHICKEN, it does not changed the FACT that the “CHICKEN” continuing to be a PIG.

        In European countries, at list which I visited (Spain, Portugal, Austria, Italy, Czech Republic, Poland, Russia) the “Blacks” are called Negros and no one perceives it as derogatory.

        Short Lecture on Race:
        In FORENSIC anthropology, there are FIVE main races of the human races, which are based on the physical characteristics like cranial profile (skull and facial features), genetic markers (DNA), hair structure, skin color
        :
        1. Caucasian/Caucasoid/Europoid (White) race
        2. Mongoloid/Mongolian (Yellow) race (Mongolians, Chinese, Japanese, Vietnamese, Koreans)
        3. Negroid/Negro (Black) race
        4. American Indigenous (Red) race
        5. Malayan (Brown) race (Malayans, Indonesians, Philippines)

        The FORENSIC anthropology is widely used in law enforcement for suspects’ race profiling, especially ‘genetic testing’ – DNA.
        The whole genome testing determines your race identity/characteristics/uniqueness.
        For example Negro “diva” oprah tested herself (probably she wanted to find some White genes). But her genome test determined/revealed that she is 89% Sub-Saharan African NEGRO, 8% Native American and 3% East Asian.
        I hope it was helpful for you, Rick Rogers.
        Best wishes

      • CHRISTOPHER ALLEN HORTON

        “eddie47d,”

        WITH GREAT SINCERITY, SIR, THANKS FOR YOUR SUPPORT.

        I HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR REPLIES ON MY Kunta Kinte REFERENCES. OBVIOUSLY, A LOT OF PEOPLE ON THIS SITE HAVE NOT SEEN, “Roots.” IN THE FILM, “Amistad,” Sengbe Pieh WAS ALSO MOSLEM.

      • CHRISTOPHER ALLEN HORTON

        “Alondra,”

        HOMOSEXUALITY IS A BIO-SEXUAL ORIENTATION. WITHIN THE HOMOSEXUAL COMMUNITY, VARIOUS HOMOSEXUALS LIKE TO USE VARIOUS MONIKERS:

        I). “Gay” – a male homosexual who is politically-active.
        II). “Lesbian” – a female homosexual who is politically-active.
        III). “Queer” – primarily, an effeminate-male homosexual who became politically-active after being upset by heterosexual nonchalance in reference to medical research [and, cure] for HIV-infection. “Queer” is also used for overtly-masculine female homosexuals who value a “protest approach” for solving problems.
        IV). “Queen” – an effeminate Negro male homosexual. Originally, “queen” referred to the practice of “vogue” – an artful display of Negro-male homosexuals mimicking the mannerisms of heterosexual Negro females. Currently, many Caucasian-male homosexuals who are effeminate also refer to themselves as, “queens.”

      • CHRISTOPHER ALLEN HORTON

        “Alondra,”

        I AM A PRODUCT OF EARLY 1970s INTELLECTUALISM. AT THAT TIME, ANTHROPOLOGISTS REFERRED TO THREE RACES OF MANKIND – CAUCASOIDS, MONGOLOIDS AND NEGROIDS.

        THESE SCIENTISTS POINTED-OUT PHYSICAL DIFFERENCES AMONG THESE THREE RACES IN REFERENCE TO THINGS LIKE, LENGTH AND WIDTH OF LIPS AND NOSES.

      • http://PeronalLiberty Alondra

        Dear CHRISTOPHER ALLEN HORTON, with all due respect, I am disagree with your definitions of HOMOSEXUALITY (“IS A BIO-SEXUAL ORIENTATION”), BISEXUALITY, GAY, LESBIAN, QUEER and “QUEEN” and I am agree with the Wikipedia and the Webster Dictionaries’ definitions, which are differ from yours.

        Wikipedia: HOMOSEXUALITY is romantic or sexual attraction or behavior BETWEEN MEMBERS OF THE SAME SEX OR GENDER … HOMOSEXUALITY is ONE OF THE THREE MAIN CATEGORIES OF SEXUAL ORIENTATION, along with BISEXUALITY and HETEROSEXUALITY.

        Merriam Webster dictionary : ho•mo•sex•u•al
        1) relating to, or characterized by a tendency to direct sexual desire toward another of the same sex
        2) relating to, or involving sexual intercourse between persons of the same sex

        You, CHRISTOPHER said: “HOMOSEXUALITY IS A BIO-SEXUAL ORIENTATION”
        The problem with that is that NONE of the many researches into the role of biology in the development of human sexual orientation has NOT been demonstrated, regardless of the hard push from the homosexual community. This community was “successful” in the removing homosexuality from the EPA’s (the oldest Psychological Association in the United States) official list of psychiatric disorders in December of 1973 because in 1970 the SAME-GENDER SEX ACTIVISTS began a PROGRAM OF INTIMIDATION AIMED at the American PSYCHIATRIC ASSOCIATION (APA), which was LED BY RADICALS like Frank Kameny.

        Wikipedia: GAY is a word that primarily refers to a homosexual person.
        The term was originally used to refer to feelings of being “carefree”, “happy”, or “bright and showy”; it had also come to acquire some connotations of “immorality” as early as 1637.[1]
        But from the 20th century that the word began to be used to mean specifically “HOMOSEXUAL”, which means romantic or sexual attraction or behavior BETWEEN MEMBERS OF THE SAME SEX OR GENDER. In the case of the “GAYS” it refers to the MALE GENDER.

        Wikipedia: LESBIAN is a term most widely used in the English language to describe sexual and romantic desire BETWEEN FEMALES.[1]

        CHRISTOPHER, as you can see the “GAY” and “LESBIAN” have nothing to do with the “political-activity”. These terms just reflect the sexual desire toward another of the same sex and the sexual intercourse between persons of the same sex.

        Wikipedia: Queer is an umbrella term for sexual minorities[1] that are not heterosexual, heteronormative, or gender-binary. In the context of Western identity politics the term also acts as a label setting queer-identifying people apart from discourse, ideologies, and lifestyles that typify mainstream LGBT (lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transsexual) communities as being oppressive or assimilationist.
        This term is controversial because it was reappropriated only two decades ago from its use as an anti-gay epithet. Furthermore, some LGBT people disapprove of using queer as a catch-all because they consider it offensive, derisive or self-deprecating given its continuous use as a form of hate speech. Other LGBT people may avoid queer because they associate it with political radicalism, or simply because they perceive it as the faddish slang of a “younger generation.”

        Wikipedia: In gay slang, QUEEN is a term used to refer to flamboyant or effeminate gay men. The term can either be pejorative or celebrated as a type of self-identification.

        TheFreeDictionary.com: QUEEN
        6. Offensive Slang Used as a disparaging term for a homosexual man.

        Best wishes

      • http://PeronalLiberty Alondra

        Dear CHRISTOPHER ALLEN HORTON,

        Anthropology is the academic STUDY OF HUMANITY. It deals not only with the physical characteristics of the RACIAL GROUPS, but also with the social and cultural organization
        The three race groups you mentioned (CAUCASOIDS, MONGOLOIDS AND NEGROIDS) are the main three racial groups.

        But there are the differences even within these groups such as skin color (which depends from the level of the melanin in the human skin) facial shape, hair thickness and others.

        For example Spaniard CAUCASOIDS’ skin is darker than Scandinavian CAUCASOIDS; the facial features of the NEGROS from the East Africa differ from the Central and West Africa.

        I do not know if you know the fact that Ethiopians, regardless of their brown skin, do not belong to the Negro race. They are Caucasian.

        Other racial groups: Indigenous peoples of the Americas, Australian Aborigines,
        MULATTOS are who is born from one white parent and one black parent.

        There are a few Métis groups:
        Métis people (USA) are an indigenous people of mixed Native American/First Nations and European ancestry. Some Métis also have African or/and Asian or/and Pacific Islander ancestry.

        BLACK NATIVE Americans is a term that refers to people of African-American descent, usually with significant Native American ancestry, who also have strong ties to Native American culture, social, and historical traditions.

        ESKIMOS are indigenous peoples who have traditionally inhabited the circumpolar region from eastern Siberia (Russia), across Alaska (United States), Canada, and Greenland.
        In Canada, the term usually designates a constitutionally recognized individual born of an Aboriginal group, descended primarily from the marriages of Scottish and French men to Cree, Saulteaux, and Ojibwa women

        Best wishes

      • CHRISTOPHER ALLEN HORTON

        “Alondra,”

        BISEXUALITY, TRANSVESTISM AND MOST CASES OF TRANSSEXUALISM ARE PSYCHOLOGICAL DISORDERS. IN RARE INSTANCES, TRANSSEXUALISM HAS A GENETIC COMPONENT.

        THERE ARE ONLY TWO BIO-SEXUAL ORIENTATIONS – HETEROSEXUALITY AND HOMOSEXUALITY.

        ALL HOMOSEXUALS SHOULD BE ATHEISTS. I DO NOT UNDERSTAND HOMOSEXUALS WHO FOLLOW, Jesus Christ – SUCH A FOLLOWING IS A FORM OF SELF-HATE.

      • http://yahoo chetohimler

        @Rick Rodgers…the term/word “negro” is the correct terminology to discribe a black person. Negro comes from the latin word negro, which means black. The only ones that get offended by this word are the Afro-Americans. In Latin America, it is appropriate to call someone of color negro without offending the person. In Latin America it is proper to call people by their native origin, such as Indio (indian), Mulato (mixed), guerro (white/blonde). Only in the United States do our black people take offense for everything. My wife is half Asian, my friends and relatives call her chinita (little chinese woman), she loves it.

      • CHRISTOPHER ALLEN HORTON

        “Alondra,”

        I DISAGREE WITH A-L-L OF YOUR RESEARCH; IT IS COMPLETE BALONEY! YET – AS A NEGRO-MALE HOMOSEXUAL WHO HAS BEEN DEALING WITH THE HOMOSEXUAL COMMUNITY SINCE THE AGE OF SEVEN (I AM NOW, FORTY-FIVE), I HAVE NO NEED TO DISPUTE EACH OF YOUR FINDINGS IN COUNTERPOINT.

      • http://PeronalLiberty Alondra

        Dear CHRISTOPHER ALLEN HORTON, my “RESEARCH” IS NOT “BALONEY”.

        Actually, sir, it my knowledge, which I got thru my EDUCATION in two European Universities, where I studied Philosophy & Human Psychology, which include: Human Character Types, Personality, sense of Identity & Identity Formation & Identity paradoxes & also I studied Human Sexuality & Sexual Perversions and much, much more. So my statements are NOT “BALONEY”, but the FACTS.

        Analyzing your posts on this Web, Christopher, I can tell you that YOUR CHARACTER TYPE is:
        FALSE (the false character pretends to be something THAT YOU ARE NOT & deliberately telling falsehoods)

        FOOLISH (which is the opposite of wise character. It means lack knowledge)

        SELFISH (do things for you own purpose)

        AMBIGUOUS (you want to keep people on the toes as they could guess that you are good).

        Your PERSONALITY, Christopher, is: Coldly MANIPULATIVE, UNSTABLE emotionally (Borderline), Seeking attention (Histrionic), Seeks praise (Narcissistic), Seeking support in your lies (Depended), Seeks control (Psychopathic).

        Your Personality dimensions, Christopher, are:
        SUBJECTIVITY (detached objectivity)
        CONTRARIAN (go against what said)
        LOCUS OF CONTROL (internal vs. external view of where control happens).
        I could continue, but I am going to stop here.

        I have to say, that your last comment revealed a lot who you are in reality.

        Short Summary: you are FALSE, MANIPULATIVE, FOOLISH, UNSTABLE, SELFISH NARCISSIST who is very subjective and who is seeking praise & attention.

        Christopher, YOUR PERSONALITY has a lot in common with the Irish White-Negro “the Kenyan” – lying, deceiving, hateful narcissist.

        Christopher, my advice to you: STOP posting PHONY-BALONEY. You are not smart like you want to sell yourself.

        You said: “I HAVE NO NEED TO DISPUTE EACH OF YOUR FINDINGS IN COUNTERPOINT”. You are correct, man. You have no need, but also you have no ability, because “EACH” my “COUNTERPOINT” based on the FACTS and you are lacked of the FACTS and of the knowledge. This just confirms how “smart” you are.

        P.S. The evidence that you are a LIAR:
        In last your post you are saying: “(I AM NOW, FORTY-FIVE)”. But in your comment July 28, 2012 at 3:48 am you said: “I AM A PRODUCT OF EARLY 1970s INTELLECTUALISM”. So in early 1970s you were 5-7 years old.

        Have a good day, Christopher, and do NOT STOP educate yourself.
        Alondra from Europe

      • CHRISTOPHER ALLEN HORTON

        “Alondra,”

        FIRST, I WILL ADDRESS THE O-N-L-Y OFFENSIVE COMMENT YOU MADE TO ME – AND, OH MAN, IT WAS EXTREMELY OFFENSIVE.

        YES – I WAS A PRODUCT OF EARLY-1970s INTELLECTUALISM. THERE IS NO WAY I CAN MAKE YOU BELIEVE ME. I WAS BORN IN 1966. AS A V-E-R-Y SMALL CHILD, I BECAME FASCINATED WITH LEARNING. BEFORE KINDERGARTEN, I HAD AN ABUNDANCE OF BOOKS AVAILABLE TO ME IN MY HOME. I LOVED Mister Roger’s Neighborhood. A-N-Y ADULT (CAUCASIAN AND NEGRO) WHO WAS IN MY ENVIRONMENT AT THAT TIME, RECOGNIZED MY INTELLECT AS A SMALL CHILD. [If you want to say I am bragging - fine!]. NO, I DID NOT MAKE ALL “As” IN K-12, NOR, COLLEGE. BUT, I DID MAKE “As” IN SUBJECTS WHICH APPEALED TO ME – FINE- AND LIBERAL ARTS. I ENROLLED IN COLLEGE WHEN I WAS SIXTEEN. I WAS NOT ONE OF THOSE STUDENTS WHO WENT TO COLLEGE IN ORDER TO MAKE “DADDY” AND “MAMA” HAPPY. MY FIRST DAY AT, Arkansas State University, WAS THE HAPPIEST DAY OF MY LIFE!

        “Alondra” IF YOU AND “Ron r” WANT TO BELIEVE I AM CAUCASIAN PRETENDING TO BE NEGRO – FINE. I HAVE NOTHING TO PROVE TO NO ONE.

        “Alondra,” YOUR BACKGROUND IN PSYCHOLOGY, ETC., DOES NOT “TRUMP” MY FIRST-HAND KNOWLEDGE OF THE VARIOUS SUB-GROUPS UNDER THE HOMOSEXUAL “UMBRELLA.”

        “Alondra,” THINK WHAT YOU WISH OF ME.

        BEST WISHES,
        CHRISTOPHER ALLEN HORTON

      • CHRISTOPHER ALLEN HORTON

        “Alondra” MADE THE STATEMENT, [sic] “…Ethiopians…are Caucasians.” SINCE SHE IS A PRODUCT OF EUROPEAN UNIVERSITIES, THIS STATEMENT “SPEAKS VOLUMES” ABOUT THE INTELLECTUAL CAPABILITIES OF EUROPEAN SCHOLARS. SO, I GUESS EUROPEANS WISH TO “RE-INVENT THE WHEEL” BY CLAIMING THE FIRST HUMANS ON EARTH DID NOT COME FROM THE DEPTHS OF SUB-SAHARAN AFRICA.

        I HAVE N-E-V-E-R HEARD A-N-Y SCHOLAR SAY HUMANS ORIGINATED IN PRESENT-DAY SCANDINAVIA.

        THIS NEW INFORMATION – COURTESY OF, “Alondra” – MEANS AMERICAN UNIVERSITIES ARE NOT IN THE “BAD SHAPE” WE THOUGHT; THE “BOOBY PRIZE” GOES TO EUROPE!

      • http://http//yahoo.com sophillyjimmy

        @ Alondra, in one of your comments you analyzed Christopher in depth, now I do not know Christopher nor do I know you and I will not deny any of what you claim or what Christopher claims but I will say this, Alondra, you did in fact clearly hit it right on the button if you are explaining Obama, there is no denying this from anyone of the people commenting in here, he is everything that you claimed that Christopher is and I do commend you for making your statements and although you made them towards Chrisopher, it is uncanny that you explained the psychological make up of Obama.

    • http://aol malcoolmX

      what a crock of BS listen to him you idiot ;;he mentions nothing about divine intervention

    • Derek Schneider

      You, sir, are a bigot and a racist.
      People like you support the liberal contention that all Republicans are racists…all they need to do is point at your ignorant comments and suddenly ALL conservatives are racists. I suggest you get out from under your rock…this way of thinking will be the downfall of this country…and of the conservative point of view.

      • Winddrinker

        Derek, there is nothing wrong with using a legitimate word like Negro.
        That is what these people are…if they are not “Negros” what are they?
        That is like saying that you can’t call oriental people “Asians” or you can’t call White people “Caucasians.”

        You are being very “hateful” yourself.

      • Smilee

        Republicans are not racists nor do I think liberals think they are but the republican party attract a lot more racists to their party than any other party for what ever reason. When i was active with the republican party I knew many of them who were racists and was one of the reasons I am no longer active with this party but not the only reason.

        • macgyver1948

          Smille… You say to Derek Schneider “Republicans are not racists nor do I think liberals think they are but the republican party attract a lot more racists to their party than any other party for what ever reason. When i was active with the republican party I knew many of them who were racists and was one of the reasons I am no longer active with this party but not the only reason”.

          I hope that most Republicans are not bigots but we should remember something from history. The KKK were pretty much Democrats in the first half of the 20th century and when they saw they couldn’t “persuade” the majority of Democrats to be as they are, the major majority of them (who knows, maybe all) “converted” to the Republican Party.

          Just something to consider but I still hope there is God in many of the Republicans and not the “Only we are right and if you disagree with us (in religion and in politics) you have to be wrong” kind. I know many liberals who do not just jump to the wrong conclusion that republicans are racists . We generally do not think that way until one proves he/she is. I wonder what Jesus would say about the KKK and The John Birch Society (by whatever name they are now using). I bet he wouldn’t like them but that is just my take on him from reading the Christian bibles..

      • nc

        Derek. what “true conservative” has ever lead this nation to it’s ” number one” positon in the world? Is there another “POSITION” above” number one” in the world??? Where would you rather live?? Go there!!!

      • DaveH

        We haven’t had anything close to a True Conservative Government in this country for at least 100 years, NC.
        And by number 1, what do you mean — in world busibodiness?
        Or are you talking about Liechtenstein?
        https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/rankorder/2004rank.html

    • Norm

      Christopher
      You are one narrow minded racist dude. Heil Hitler!

      • msbets

        bottom line, obama is one dangerous,evil,vile, venomous cretin and must be removed, the blacks can call themselves, every thing but late for lunch, and quite frankly I don’t give a damn, but what I do care is that this 50%wh/tr 45% A..rab and 5% black, is INTENTIONALLY ruining and destroying this country, as it is. it will take at least 2 decades to undo the damage this cretin has managed to do WITHOUT CONGRESS……..simply amazing…….. this thing makes hitler, on his worst day, look like a nun.

      • Karolyn

        Norm – What I see is that Chris calls ‘em as he sees ‘em and brings a particularly interesting black perspective to this forum.Racist? Possibly. There certainly are different classes of black people just as there are different classes of white people and we view people and make our judgments in accordance with our experience – what we know.

      • CHRISTOPHER ALLEN HORTON

        THANK YOU, “Karolyn.”

        FOR YEARS, Justice Clarence Thomas WAS THE ONLY NEGRO “REPUBLICAN” WHO HAD NATIONAL EXPOSURE. NEGROES CONSIDERED HIM “Uncle Tom” BECAUSE THEY DID NOT LIKE HIS Equal Employment Opportunity Commission RECORD.

        I ALSO THINK CAUCASIAN REPUBLICANS ALSO DO NOT UNDERSTAND NEGRO REPUBLICANS.

        I AM NOT A RELIGIOUS CONSERVATIVE – I AM ATHEIST. I AM ONE-HUNDRED PERCENT “PRO-LIFE.” I SUPPORT THE TRADITIONAL FAMILY. BECAUSE I AM NOT OBSESSED WITH THE “ALMIGHTY” DOLLAR, I AM NOT GOING TO LET SOME DEMOCRAT TELL ME I AM “DOWN-AND-OUT” JUST BECAUSE I AM A “darkie.” I VOTED FOR THE FIRST TIME IN 1992. I THOUGHT Vice-President George Herbert Walker Bush WAS EXCITING. MY LIFE IS GREAT – I HAVE NO COMPLAINTS. AS A FORTY-FIVE-YEAR OLD, I HAVE EVERYTHING I WANT. I AM A SIMPLE MAN WITH SIMPLE NEEDS.

    • speak truth

      Negros! Racist much. NO business in this country did it by themselves. The employees they hired were educated in our PUBLIC school, the materials to build your business traveled on roads and bridges paid for by ALL american taxpayers. The real workers in this country are the middle class who built this country into what it is today. Mutt and this rag continuing to push their lies and deceit, and take out of context what the president SAID, proves you have no chance of winnin with Mutt Robme. Look at his first trip overseas. Such a tin ear, trashing England our biggest ally just turned off the entire English population.. Keep it up Mutt, cant wait to see what you do in Israel.

      • Bev

        Are for Obama? Mutt as you call him is at least an American. He may not be your first choice and I understand that completely. He wasn’t my first choice either. But if you go and vote for some third party (i.e. Ron Paul) you are casting a vote for Obama. Politics sometimes means you need to compromise to get the job done.

      • Derek Schneider

        The English population has nothing to do with our elected president in first place (re: See AMERICAN REVOLUTION).
        England doesn’t have much choice BUT to be our ally…and will remain so.
        I cannot imagine that Romney could do anything to further tarnish our relationship with Israel after the damage Obama has already done.

      • Nancy in Nebraska

        speak truth, do you really speak truth? You call a black man a racist for referring to himself as a negro?!? Where is the truth in that?!? Everytime you check a box labeled “Caucasian” are you being a racist? What complete and utter nonsense! As far as your agreeing with obummer about the idea that nobody built their own business, again you are full of it. When a person builds a business they pay to have sewers, water lines, electricity etc… run to their building. The government doesn’t pay for that. They risk their own money, not the governments. They work long hours for no pay (initially). Does the government o that? They employ people which benefits all of us. They pay taxes. The government does nothing to make things easier or them, in fact it puts many obstacles in their way. Yes, the government “educated” their workers, just as they educate everyone whether they work or not! obummer is a communist and you had better wake up before its too late!!!

      • Gordon

        Bev people don’t grasp the fact that idealism is what elected Bill Clinton. The alternate candidates split the vote and the other guy won. All this tea party, Ron Paul, etc idealism is great, but it will get Obama re-elected. Argue race, argue religion, argue it all. Obama will add liberal judges to the Supreme Court which will destroy the Constitution USA long term. The tip of the iceberg. Solar flares might kill electronics, earthquakes might split the country or CA fall into the ocean, icebergs might melt, we might become a desert, asteroids might hit, nuclear war might happen, or even Jesus might come back….. MIGHT…… but one thing for sure WILL happen…… gihad in the USA, just like it happened in Europe. The takeover IS coming, period. Today Hillary is voting to give the UN your 2nd Amendment rights. Think about that one. The UN controlling and confiscating all our guns.

      • Mike in MI

        AH-H-H-h-hhh HUUM speak truth, (you need a new handle, bub) -
        Got a question for you if you and the proxydent are so sure government is the economic equal of every problem:
        If government is the reason for the success and continuity of every successful business why is it that all the successful, prosperous businesses in my area here in Michigan, or at least once were so, aren’t still in operation so successfully and prosperously? In fact, WHY AREN’T THEY STILL “OPEN”? Why didn’t government just make them stay open since obviously that’s where all the JOBS WENT. And Obump’n’gums’ter says he wants people to have jobs – and he seems to see it as his special calling and ability to provide those jobs. The once good business closed and the jobs went away and Obama let it happen. Why’d obama do that? Not just once but time after time after time…all over the country.
        On any level you’d have to say he’s a cruel liar to take those good jobs, those livelihoods, those homes, those meals from kids mouths, those medical procedures from suffering people who needed them – AND HIS TAX RETURN AND ALL THE SENATE DEMS RETURNS SAY THEY HAVE $$MILLIONS A-P-I-E-C-E.
        fool…raca

      • Butch

        speak “truth”??? More like muttering stupidity. The Fraud-in-Chief was just being coinsistent in trying to denigrate the individual and build up government and his socialist collectivist thinking. Its amazing stupid idiots like you STILL support the biggest spending president ever, all while he hasn’t fulfilled a SINGLE campaign promise, he cooks the books when it comes to the TRUE unemployment numbers(they’re closer to 25%. 8%, what a joke!), he is STILL in Afghanistan and even committed 12 MORE YEARS to them without asking a single American if we even WANT to be there. Theres plenty of pictures of him smoking his @$$ with marijuana but hes arresting dtate legalizd marijuana growers???? He is a monster who is sworn to destroy America and POS like YOU are guilty of aiding and abetting him. This nation desperately needs a bloody revolution.

    • Bev

      No one knows what the hell you are talking about. Obama is running around screaming that his words were taken “out of context”. But if you look at them in context they are even worse. The roads, the power lines, the school buildings, all of the infrastructure were built by business that hoped to profit from their effort. Govt produces not one thing. All govt does is take money from one group of people and give it to another. Obama acts like govt is the end all to end all. I happen to disagree with him. We’ve got so many people on welfare that we cannot afford a space program. We’ve got to take back our country and the first thing we need to do is to vote out those who believe in more govt. Oh and CHRISTOPHER ALLEN HORTON TYPING IN ALL CAPS INDICATES SCREAMING ON THE INTERNET!!!

      • Gary Yagley

        BEV, a light in the darkness you are. It worries me for the future of our great land, that we have so many narrow minded, under-educated folks that will actually vote.

      • Nancy in Nebraska

        Look in the mirror, Gary!!!

      • Winddrinker

        What is really frightening…talk to the college students! They have about an eighth grade education, if that much. These universities are churning out little marxists, no-nothings that have no idea what is going on in this country. These are not medicaid idiots, you would think they might have picked up the skill to balance their checkbooks, or recognize the name of the Vice President…they don’t know either. They haven’t a clue about what caused the Holycaust or what the word “Gestapo” means. But, they can tell you all about how bad their country is and how everybody is “entitled” to have “everything!”

    • Winddrinker

      Why would someone that doesn’t believe in GOD and is not a Christian, make a statment for the reason you describe. He wasn’t inferring that it was “GOD’s help” that successful business owners got, when he said “you didn’t build that.”

      We all know what obumscum said, it can’t be be explained away, in a religious context.

      • Nancy in Nebraska

        I think he was imagining obummer being raised as a negro rather than a communist!

      • Gordon

        You NEED to see the Rev. Jeremia Wright interview that was passed to Hannity. Wright says that Obama IS a muslim, and was using his church as a political base, not a spritual base, and that Obama tried to pay him off to shut up and then threatened him. Obama is a muslim through and through. There’s plenty of videos out there especially the composite of Obama telling that he IS a muslim and will support and defend the muslim religion 100%. Obama himself stated that there are 70,000 radical muslim extremists IN the USA.

      • CHRISTOPHER ALLEN HORTON

        “Nancy in Nebraska,”

        I BELIEVE SOMEWHERE ALONG THE WAY, Barack Hussein FOUND A WAY TO IDENTIFY WITH HIS NEGRO HERITAGE. AFTER ALL, THE KENYAN DID MARRY A NEGRO FEMALE. IN OUR CONTEMPORARY AGE OF NEGRO FEMALES DATING CAUCASIAN MALES, IF A NEGRO FEMALE DECIDES TO “STICK WITH” A NEGRO MALE, THAT NEGRO MALE MUST HAVE SOME “Afrocentric” QUALITIES.

        THIS “Afrocentric” QUALITY IN THE BIRACIAL PRESIDENT – NO MATTER HOW MINUTE – IS A REASON WHY “help from the Lord” WAS STRONGLY IMPLIED IN REFERENCE TO HIS VIEWS ON HOW PEOPLE ARE ABLE TO OBTAIN SUCCESS.

      • Americanita

        Whyare you all talking about religious differences and about Black or white or any culture! We are Amercans and the whole point of this article and debate is that Obama is not respecting the basic right of every American to choose the freedom of building your own business however you have the talent. Yes, everyone has need of help in developing talent however it is the individual who has to persevere to construct his own path and build his dreams. Enough of picking on Obama or Romney for a black white Mormon or Muslim issue. Pick the one who will continue to challenge our youth and our young at heart and brave in spirit to stand up for the Rights given by the Consturution of the United States of America.

    • http://www.facebook.com/katharine.kimball Katharine Kimball

      BTW Christopher, the “Kenyan” as you refer to him was raised by his white mother and his white grandparents.

      • Winddrinker

        Katharine, we don’t know the pedigree of obumscum. We have been told nothing but lies, why would anyone believe what we have been told about who the parents may or may not be…

        He looks arab to me.

      • Gordon

        and they were muslims/ communists and a communist Ayres paid for his education. Facts not conjecture, not email trash. look em up. Obama was chosen decades ago to be groomed as the first black and muslim president.

      • CHRISTOPHER ALLEN HORTON

        “Winddrinker,”

        THERE IS ANOTHER THREAD ON THIS SITE WHICH DISCUSSES Barack Hussein (AS A CHILD) EATING DOG MEAT, SNAKE MEAT AND GRASSHOPPER WHILE IN INDONESIA.

        I BELIEVE HIS ISLAMIC INFLUENCES THROUGHOUT HIS LIFE HAS HAD SOME TYPE OF IMPACT ON HIS STATUS AS PART-NEGRO/PART-CAUCASIAN. THROUGHOUT HIS ADMINISTRATION, HE HAS IGNORED THE NEGRO COMMUNITY. HE HAS DONE THINGS WHICH ARE EMBARASSMENTS TO THE NEGRO COMMUNITY – LIKE, SUPPORTING “gay” MARRIAGE AND KILLING A “COLORED” MALE WHO COMMITTED AN ALLEGED CRIME [Osama bin Laden].

        ON THE OTHER HAND, BY BEING OBSESSED WITH WAR AND TERRORISM, HE KEEPS CAUCASIANS HAPPY BY APPEARING TO BE STRONG ON NATIONAL DEFENSE. Obamacare WILL BE OF GREAT BENEFIT TO CAUCASIAN DOCTORS AND CAUCASIAN-INSURANCE COMPANIES; YET, Obamacare WILL BE A DISASTER FOR NEGROES.

      • Samdromeda

        Verifiably True to those who are not three sheets in the wind.

      • CHRISTOPHER ALLEN HORTON

        “Nancy in Nebraska,”

        YES – Barack Hussein WAS RAISED BY CAUCASIANS. BUT, EVERY TIME HE WALKS OUT OF HIS FRONT DOOR, HE WILL BE JUDGED AS A “black” MAN.

        “Nancy in Nebraska,” THIS IS A VERY DIFFICULT POINT FOR CAUCASIANS TO UNDERSTAND BECAUSE CAUCASIANS ARE NOT FOLLOWED BY STORE CLERKS IN MALLS AND RECEIVE THE “eagle-eye treatment” BY ARMED SECURITY IN BANK LOBBIES. NEGRO MALES ARE A-L-W-A-Y-S CRIMINAL SUSPECTS.

        MOREOVER, THE KENYAN’S REFERENCE TO THE “Lord’s” HELP ALSO “RINGS TRUE” IN THIS REGARD. A COMMON PRACTICE IN NEGRO MISSIONARY-BAPTIST CHURCHES IS THE PREACHER ALLOWING INDIVIDUAL MEMBERS OF THE CONGREGATION TO STAND UP AND GIVE A “testimony.”

        A COMMON “testimony” GOES LIKE THIS – “Oh thank you, Lord! Y’all, I’m happy today. They came last Monday and turned my lights off. My lil’ children couldn’t eat hot food because we got an electric stove. But the Lord picked me up and I was able to get a lil’ day-work. I went Friday and got my lights turned back on! Thank you, Jesus!” [THE PERSON GIVING THIS "testimony" IS CRYING AND THE CONGREGATION ROARS WITH, A-mens]. THIS TYPE OF “testimony” IS GIVEN AT LEAST TWICE MONTHLY AT VARIOUS NEGRO CHURCHES IN RURAL-NORTHERN MISSISSIPPI.

        SO, CAUCASIANS, WHEN I SAY THE KENYAN REFERRED TO BUSINESS OWNERS RECEIVING HELP FROM THE “Lord,” ANY NEGRO WOULD SAY THAT SUCCESSFUL BUSINESS OWNER HAD AN “ANSWERED testimony.”

    • Nancy in Nebraska

      Christopher, it’s interesting to hear how black people were raised differently. I appreciate your sharing these things with us. But I disagree with you on this. obummer was raised primarily by white people. He was influenced for a time by his Indonesian step father but I think that the major influences in his life were white people. And I do believe that he meant exactly what he said. He was raised by communists and admits that Frank Marshall Davis was a big influence in his life. Davis was a known communist at that time. Throughout his education he was influenced by many more communists. I believe that his words speak to his belief that everything should be owned by the people (or the government). I believe that if he remains in office he will continue to nationalize more companies as he did with GM. Everything he speaks and does are the very same things that other communist dictators said and did before they took over. I think that he is a very dangerous man. I like so many others, wanted a black man as president. My grandson and future grandchildren is/will be part black. I want them to have someone to look up to. I want the world and this country to have moved beyond the racism of the past. But this is not the man for the job. In spite of wishing and hoping I knew that he was not the right man. I could never have voted for him. When he ran for election, there were just slight clues to his communist ways and after he was elected we have seen more and more. I think he’s a communist. I think he hates our country. And I think he’s very dangerous! I will even go as far as saying that I think he is evil!!!

      • CHRISTOPHER ALLEN HORTON

        “Nancy in Nebraska,”

        I CALL THE BIRACIAL PRESIDENT “KENYAN” BECAUSE I BELIEVE HE WAS BORN IN KENYA – NOT, HAWAII. I KNOW ABOUT HIS CHILDHOOD. BUT, A DARK-SKINNED NEGRO FROM KENYA (OR, SOME FOREIGN LAND) IS HIS FATHER.

        AT THIS POINT, THE KENYAN HAS DESTROYED ALL CREDIBILITY IN REFERENCE TO HIS BIRTH CERTIFICATE. I WILL NEVER BELIEVE HE WAS BORN IN THE UNITED STATES.

      • Ron r

        There is truth to the notion that if the president had the last name of Wilson, Washington, or Smith he would be at least is an American to most of you. Regardless of if his mother had married a dam leper as long as he was white or black (of slave descent). The fact that this BLACK MAN has no SLAVE BLOOD in his veins is a problem for all birthers. (Reich wingers) (BTW I was a solider in the U.S. infantry and ate dog meat while stationed in the ROK)
        Mr. Horton is a Reich wing idiot who uses the word Negro as a negative because he is too much a coward to use the shorter version. Horton and people like him( Chip Wood and Bob) help me understand why some animals eat their young.

        PS. Because Islam out dates Christianity, was/is the original religion, and life began in Africa, there was good reason why the people were Muslim you idiot Reich wing racist coward. It did not take them long to embrace your style of Christianity in order to survive. It’s a shame your style or Christianity murdered the Native American and still has such a hold on some (as well as blacks) that they are willing to wait for their pie in the sky while you enjoy yours living a worthless life. BTW do idiots like you ever think that real black conservative read this page????

      • CHRISTOPHER ALLEN HORTON

        “Ron r,”

        SINCE Black History IS NOT MY “THING,” I AM NOT GOING TO PROVIDE DATES. TRIBAL AFRICANS WERE MEMBERS OF VARIOUS PAGAN SECTS. SOMETIME DURING TURKISH EXPANSION IN THE MEDITERREAN REGION AND NORTHERN AFRICA, NEGROES IN SUB-SAHARAN AFRICA OBTAINED ACCESS TO ISLAMIC TEACHINGS. BECAUSE THE UNITED STATES IS PRIMARILY, A CHRISTIAN NATION, CAUCASIANS ONLY WANT TO FOCUS ON SLAVES BORN IN AMERICA. NEGROES -LIKE, Kunta Kinte – WHO WERE CAPTURED AND BROUGHT TO AMERICA AS SLAVES ARE IGNORED BECAUSE THEIR STATUS AS NON-CHRISTIAN IS CONSIDERED ANTI-AMERICAN.

      • Ron r

        Nancy, if you belioeve C. Horton is black you are as ignorent as he is racist, or most likely both.

    • Ron r

      I am a so-called negro and have have no ideal what your racist a@@ is talking about. It amazes me how some idiot like you will get on a page like this and write things you would never say face to face to even a black child. It is even more amazing that there are still people like you Chip Wood, and Bob that would take a comment out of contex and stake the entire election on the lie when Mitt Romney is self exploding as we speak. Yes Christopher A Horton you are a coward and a dam idiot , and youbare the very reason that I am pro choice. I see no need for a parent to bring a child like you into the world if they do not want too.

      • Nancy in Nebraska

        Wow, Ron! Christopher is a negro so I guess your racist rant doesn’t count for much! Just because he isn’t a hate filled liberal doesn’t mean he’s not entitled to his own opinion! As far a I can see, YOU’RE the racist!!!

      • eddie47d

        There is not much difference between a hate filled Liberal and a hate filled Conservative. First of all you must recognize that fact.

      • Ron r

        Mr. Horton or Uncle Ruckus , you have no sense of history , just as you have no sense of dignity. Go lay down and try to get a life other than reich wing history . You could not teach a dead man history and your logic puts Hitler to shame.

      • CHRISTOPHER ALLEN HORTON

        “Ron r,”

        SIR, SINCE YOU INDICATED YOU ARE “black,” I WILL NOT OPPOSE YOU ON A CAUCASIAN SITE. “Ron r,” I UNDERSTAND YOU CONSIDER ME TO BE AN EMBARASSMENT; I RESPECT THAT. I CHOSE A PATH WHICH IS RIGHT FOR ME.

      • cawmun cents

        …………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………..
        un(expletive deletd)ing believable.
        You MUST be a product of modern educational standards.
        God……help us all.
        Cheers!
        -CC.

      • Ron r

        Ron r,”

        SIR, SINCE YOU INDICATED YOU ARE “black,” I WILL NOT OPPOSE YOU ON A CAUCASIAN SITE. “Ron r,” I UNDERSTAND YOU CONSIDER ME TO BE AN EMBARASSMENT; I RESPECT THAT. I CHOSE A PATH WHICH IS RIGHT FOR ME.

        C. Horton and Crew, The only right path for you would be to jump from a low building into a deep well. I should not waste my time responding to the crap you and other racist post. It is obvious the authors who publish articles on this site want the type of reaction you and other Reich wingers (cloaked in conservatism) provide. The reality is that your type (racist idiots) is but a very small part of American society. Your numbers are even smaller when you factor in how many of you idiots are birthers. You are ,well you know what you are.

        BTW, I did not know this was considered a caucasian site , does that mean it is only for caucasians?? You are no embarassment to me, I do not know you but I do know you are not who you claim you are. You have given yourself away more than a few times.Keep practicing you may get at least the negro part down.

        • Samdromeda

          Ask any Italian and they will tell you that there is no Mafia. If the person says that there is a Mafia then they are not Italian. Ask any Black American Nationalist if there are Negros in this country and they will say there are no Negros in this country. If the individual says that there are Negros in this nation then they are not part of The Black American Nation. It is a true test of nationality. All others are a group unto themselves for individual convenience.

    • Debra

      That was a
      mindbendingly stupid comment. First, the President, in context, was saying that we all built the infrastructure that business use and most businesses are started with borrowed money that came from somebody else. Thus when he made that statement, he was speaking the truth since he was talking about the infrastructure not the business. Oh and just so you know, African-Americans know who to blame for their lack of upward mobility and it isn’t God. It’s the policies of the Republican party. However I do believe that if they ever are able to move ahead it should be God they thank since the Republican party hasn’t felt the need to help anyone but themselves in more than forty years.

      • Gea

        Both Obama and his wife were the beneficiaries of the affirmative action, and had profited nicely from their jobs before they managed to get into the White house. A Democratic VP candidate, Geraldine Ferraro, was correct then she stated that Barak Hussein would never had won if it were not for the color of his skin and white guilt about things long time ago.

        Why blame anybody for dysfunctional ghetto communities, created by people on the dole and children born out of Wedlock (75% if black babies and 45% of white babies) and then living on the dole. In 1965, Daniel Patrick Moynihan wrote a book that predicted the failures of the US communities, and going toward a dysfunctional welfare state, rather then self-sufficiency (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Negro_Family:_The_Case_for_National_Action He was accused to be a racist by the politically correct morons who feel guilty about their ancestors slave holders.

        People should stop blaming others for their own failures and even if there is somebody to blame, it is better to spend one’s energy on improving their situation rather then brooding about injustices of the past. Why should a person work when she can produce babies and loaf around on the dole at the backs of US taxpayers?

        IF you mind your own business and stop blaming “other” for your own problems, you will be able to solve them faster than if you keep blaming somebody else. When you point your finger on somebody, there are four fingers pointing back at YOU!

      • Alexandra

        GEA:

        Good stuff, but the finger pointing, it’s three not four. :)

      • Ron r

        Dear Nacy and Eddie, I stand by what I say and if Horton is black then I have been living a lie for the past 59 years. And yes I hate idiots and reich wing idiots just as much as they hate the president.

      • Mike in MI

        Ron r -
        Your diatribes are indicative of 59 years of wasted time spent being mad because some shrewd huckster(s) convinced you that you should follow him/them. They convinced you that you had a legitimate beef of some sort, no chance to make anything of yourself because of some imagined shortcoming or trait that you can not change and YOU “proved” they were right by conforming to their expectations.
        There are too many people (not just Negro or mulatto) who refused to let their skin hold them down or back who have made tremendous advancements – both for themselves and our culture – and been handsomely rewarded. They just refused to let stupid people hold them down or push them down. AND, they changed whatever in themselves they could identify that was like those other stupid people and chucked it.
        It’s always a good time to change for the better.
        Beliefs more than anything else have kept the masses and nations of Muslim people in squalor, penury and servitude.

    • Alexandra

      Christopher Allen Horton please kill yourself. You are a vile individual and a perfect example of what people without Christ turn into. Angry hatemongers. Negroes? Really? WhoTF still uses that word? Are you 85 years old? Please keep using it anyway, it immediately identifies you as a total retard.
      HAVE A BLESSED DAY.

      • JeffH

        Alexandra says “Christopher Allen Horton please kill yourself.”

        Alexandra is a hatefull, souless, ignorant hypocrit. Bet you worship Lucifer.

      • Karolyn

        Alexandra – Try not to take yourself so seriously. It makes life so much easier when you live and let live. Would it not be a boring world if we all spoke and thought the same?

      • Nancy in Nebraska

        Alexandra, YOU are evil and despicable! Lack of political correctness is not just cause for dying!!! You need to take a good look at yourself!!! If a black man is not permitted to call himself and others of the same race a negro, then something is terribly wrong in this country! This political correctness is causing people to HATE to the degree that they wish each other DEAD?!? YOU NEED HELP!!! I hope you get it!!!

      • Winddrinker

        Alexandra you are racists to the point of being vile and hateful.

        What is wrong with the word Negro? It is a legitimate word that is in the dictionary. If these people are not “negros” what are they?

        That is like saying you can’t call Whites “Caucasians” or orientals “Asians.” What is wrong with you, anyway..

      • Mike in MI

        Alexandra -
        “Give and it shall be given unto you; good measure, pressed down, and shaken together and running over, shall men give into your bosom. for with the same measure that ye mete withal it shall be measured to you again.” Luke 6:38
        If I were you I’d be asking God and Mr. Horton to please forgive you. I’d be quick, before this harvest starts coming in.

        • macgyver1948

          This is for Alexandra…… Your words “You are a vile individual and a perfect example of what people without Christ turn into”.

          WOW. So, as per “your words” all people who do not accept Christ are vile? No religious bigotry in your words at all, huh. As far as I see in your bible Jesus was always Jewish his entire life so what does that make him and others of his religion. Or Buddhists, or Hindus or any other people of God?

          Lady, you do not have to accept Jesus to be of God and to have morals and ethics. Some religions strictly forbid the belief in entities such as Jesus. Jesus’ religion still does and always will. Maybe you should learn how to structure you words better or is it how you believe that caused you to be so generally insulting? Just asking.

          By the way, nice language for a Christian – “WhoTF“. :-).

      • CHRISTOPHER ALLEN HORTON

        OF COURSE, I DO NOT KNOW “Alexandra’s” RACE. SHE HAS A RIGHT TO HER VALUES.

        THROUGHOUT MY ENTIRE LIFE, I HAVE HAD TO DEAL WITH OTHER NEGROES WHO CONSIDER ME TO BE A RACIAL EMBARASSMENT. BECAUSE OF THIS, I WAS FORCED – AS A CHILD – TO FORM FRIENDSHIPS WITH CAUCASIANS. NEGROES CALLED ME HORRIBLE NAMES IN SCHOOL. WHEN I ENROLLED AT, Arkansas State University, AT THE AGE OF SIXTEEN, I WAS ABLE TO LEAVE OTHER NEGROES’ HATRED OF ME IN THE PAST.

        • Samdromeda

          It is apparent that in this forum the use of a term that was deemed a term of objectification “Negro” has indeed injected a mindset similar to the mindset of the propaganda ministers of Hitler. The result was the desensitization of a nation to the humanity of a people. This process enabled a genocide to be executed with speed and efficiency. As a result empathy and mercy vacated the character of a nation.It seems that intellectually the war continues and the process of objectification continues worldwide. It seems that there is a hidden force that has put mankind at one another’s throats with extreme prejudice. This puts our nation in peril by the implementation of oppression which
          has never enabled any dominant society to stand for long and often leads to national punishment by forces far stronger than we are. Oppression is an offense that is punishable by God Himself. It breeds chaos and fosters conflict. It does not engender peace and cooperation.

      • Ron r

        Mike in MI., your response is typical of an angry white man who blames minorities for everything that has gone wrong in his unfulfilled life. One who believes blacks are the cause of all the ills of today’s society. That Abraham Lincoln shot John Wilkes Booth or that somehow even though whites out number blacks in this great nation there are still more blacks on food stamps than whites. Or that white youths are not having babies out of wed lock, and those would be fathers would not pay support because some black fathers are not. You do not agree with me so you generalize with your opinion of me as just another angry black savage who for 59 years have been waiting to stick it to the man. How very Russ Limbaugh of you.
        People like you, Russ, Horton and the likes have nothing else in life to do but take politics to the extreme. You sit at your computer and use this site to blame the ills of the world on people who have no control over them. Anyone who tries to reason with you or disagrees with you is either a commie or a black person who has been on welfare all their lives and is hooked on entitlements. What a small, small world you live in. What a small, small, mind you and others like you have. You look at anything that has to do with minorities and find a reason to explain it as dependence. They have no opinion because all they want is a hand out. How shallow is that sir???

      • Mike in MI

        Well, why should it not appear the same as the persecution under Hitler and Himmler? The same Devil that caused it then has not changed his cue cards or teleprompter screens in the least little whit except for race and place. He just moved his base of operations from Deutchland Uber Alles to Amerika Unner Obump’n’gums’ter
        By the way, I don’t think any, maybe I should say “many”, of the folks here “hate” Obama. Too many of them are too wise for that. Hatred is all emotions, knee-jerk trained responses, thoughtless hormone surges and evil spirit driven anger.
        To despise something or someone indicates the despised person has said or done something about which the wiser person has spent time considering in some depth or recognizes things about the first which are utterly repugnant which are rightly to be “despised”.

      • Mike in MI

        Ron r -
        I agree, Ron, that’s pretty shallow.
        I think that if that is all you can put on me then I’ll just wash my hands good, before I eat next time (as I normally would) and everything will be fine. That can’t rectify your plight.

    • http://PeronalLiberty Alondra

      Here is the Russian Fable on the subject:

      Rooster met up with an Ass.

      “Hello there, Ass!” Rooster greeted Ass.

      “Hello,” the Ass replied rather stiffly. “I am happy to see you. But I must ask you, however, NOT TO CALL ME Ass from now on.”

      “Why?” asked the Rooster, PUZZLED AND CONFUSED. “HAVE YOU STOPPED BEING ONE?”

      “Well, IN A CERTAIN SENSE, yes,” said an Ass. “You see, the word ‘ASS’ is a SYMBOL OF STUPIDITY, so I HAVE BEEN GIVEN A SCIENTIFIC NAME.”

      “A scientific name? What name?” Rooster wondered.

      “Class Mammalia, Order Perissodactyla, Family Equidae, Species Equus asinus,” the Ass announced proudly.

      “It sounds very important,” Rooster replied. “But I want to let you know that my opinion of you not changed.”

      The DEMONcrats wrap themselves in concerned, compassionate, caring, generous good-doer robes.

      But under robe they are crooked liars; corrupt, immoral and shameless hypocrite, based and dishonorable self-serving DEMONS.

      • Mike in MI

        Dear Alondra – Couldn’t have said it better myself…wish I had first.
        I’ve been thinking and have finally come to a conclusion about something.
        There is honor, even among thieves.
        But, a liberal will accept no boundaries on the depths of degradation and deviant detestableness to which they will not stoop if they can get another entitlement or government bone.

      • http://PeronalLiberty Alondra

        Mike, I glad you liked. When I read it, I laughed and decided to translate, because it so well described the hypocrisy of the Democrats’ Ass/Donkey.
        Best wishes

    • pweiters9

      7/28/12, Chris, this POS, BO, should save face & resign now.

    • CHRISTOPHER ALLEN HORTON

      “Alondra,”

      HOMOSEXUALITY IS A BIO-SEXUAL ORIENTATION.

      I WILL KEEP THIS “CLEAN.” AN ADULT-FEMALE NUDE ["LIVE"] HAS NO ABILITY – WHATSOEVER – TO SEXUALLY AROUSE A HOMOSEXUAL BOY AT THE ONSET OF PUBERTY. IF EVERY FEMALE IN THE WORLD WAS NUDE 24/7/365, THERE WOULD STILL BE NO EFFECT ON HOMOSEXUAL BOYS, NOR, HOMOSEXUAL MEN.

      THEREFORE, HOMOSEXUALITY IS BIO-GENETIC BECAUSE THERE IS NO BIO-PSYCHOLOGICAL “TRIGGER” IN REFERENCE TO THE OPPOSITE GENDER.

      • Samdromeda

        The power to arouse is not in the eyes. Nudity is not a real test. Arousal is based on relationship and the power to arouse is established in a tactile mutual relationship. This is how men are flipped in prison. Heterosexual gynecologists are not aroused by
        naked females and neither are male plastic surgeons. Yet, they are aroused by their mates. It is engendered in the mutuality of possession and commitment. If the dog salivates it is hungry. To not salivate does not mean that it does not enjoy eating food. It is simply not hungry.

      • CHRISTOPHER ALLEN HORTON

        “Samdromeda,”

        OBVIOUSLY, YOU HAVE NOT HEARD THE FACTUAL ACCOUNTS OF DOCTORS WHO HAVE RAPED AND SEXUALLY HARASSED FEMALE PATIENTS IN THEIR OFFICES.

        I DISAGREE WITH YOUR COMMENTS ON SEXUAL AROUSAL.

      • Samdromeda

        In context, criminal behavior has nothing to do with arousal in the professional sense. You are entering the realm of sexual addiction and rape which is an act of violence. It is the thrill that engenders the act. It comes as a result of the violation of professional ethics and a person giving themselves permission to exercise their criminal mind and/or give themselves over to the suggestion and thereby will themselves into action.. The thought of conquest engenders the arousal in the mind of the predator. Normal ethical Gynecologists are not aroused by their patients and consider the thought to be repugnant.

    • CHRISTOPHER ALLEN HORTON

      “pj Connolly,”

      GO ONLINE AND Google MY NAME [CHRISTOPHER ALLEN HORTON] WITH THE KEYWORDS, “FreshXpress” – A NEGRO SITE. READ MY COMMENTS, THEN TELL ME, DO YOU THINK A CAUCASIAN MALE COULD HAVE MADE THOSE COMMENTS? OR, YOU CAN Google MY REVIEW OF Don Lemon’s “Transparent” AT Amazon.com.

      PEOPLE I AM NEGRO.

    • Shawn

      what a stupid comment

      • CHRISTOPHER ALLEN HORTON

        WHY, “Shawn?”

  • nickolas cordoba

    No, I’m sure everyone knew what Predident Obama said… We can’t figure out why the Republicans can’t… Are they stupid? Or, Didn’t they hear Romney retcact the ad on the very next day… Romney and friends are trying to get away with, “the oldest trick in the book”… Taking President Obama ‘out of context’ won’t work.

    • charlene

      wy dont the blacks hold the clowns feet to the fire. there are blackes out there that stared buisiness. dont they think hes going to hurt them as well. obama only thinks of him self. me, mine i he referd to the white house as his. romney has never had the me guoat down as well as obubber. its time this nut gets cracked.

      • http://aol malcoolmX

        they are BLACK ANTI-AMERICANS FIRST; business folks second.

      • Ron r

        The blacks, that’s a silly statement. Now you see why we (The Blacks) pick another black man over a racist white man, and other racist views.

      • Nancy in Nebraska

        I’d be willing to bet that black business owners see him for what he is. But I believe that uninformed black people (and white people) see only the color of his skin. They think he is here to save them. Many black people (and white people) have become dependent upon the government’s largesse. If a politician is willing to throw something their way, they become loyal fans. People need to realize that the government is doing them no favor by making them dependent. It just keeps them in poverty!

      • Gordon

        Ron R, even you have to admit that ALL people of color are raised in an environment that bombarts them with racial epitaphs about other people, especially whites. And whites too. Each and every racial, ethnic, and social class is taught while they are growing up to hate every thing that is different than themselves and they are taught to point fingers at those who they perceive are the cause of their own individual failures. Hate the other guy’s color. Hate the other guy’s national origin. Hate the other guy’s relligion, hate the other guy’s MONEY or lack of it, hate the other guy’s social status…… etc. Facts are that people in general hate everything and everybody that is different than themselves. Two basic problems….. no self respect and no respect for others…… and a blatant refusal to accept personal responsibility for the out come of their own life. Always remember, when someone points a finger at someone else, there is three more pointing back at them.

      • Winddrinker

        And, Nancy, the government will soon stop all those benefits and free money, if marxists get their way and make this into a socialist country. To give money to one person, the government must take it from someone else. When there are no people left with money for the government to confiscate, there won’t be “obama money” or what one of his supporters called, “an obama stash.”

      • Mike in MI

        Winddrinker -
        There’ll be something else we run out of rather quickly, too. That’d be anybody who practices deviancy that inolves genital arousal – I don’t like calling it anything that references “sex”. Heterosexuality is an honest and Godly establishment. But, even atheistic Commies recognized early on that they had to rid themselves of homos in order for their system to have a reasonably viable future. However, they do promote and “front” it in cultures they are attempting to overthrow. I assume it is because it is such a great destabilizing and epidemic producing influence.

    • DaveH

      Out of Context, Nick? What part of the sentence — “If you’ve got a business — you didn’t build that” — do you not understand?

      • DaveH

        From the Donkey’s mouth:
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YKjPI6no5ng

      • Rick

        The part that came after Faux News cut off the sentance. The “that” was reference to infrastructure, not the business. Listen to the tape when Obama says in the next sentance that “the point is…..”, and then he speaks about what infrastructure proceeds the building of a business like roads, bridges, etc. That’s not reference to the business. Honestly, all the morons who pick out the words they want and ignore the facts, just show their complete ignorance. Listen to Romney’s speech before the Olympics in Utah and he said to the athletes exactly the same thing about those who came before you and built a base so you could suceed..

      • speak truth

        Go to the entire comment. How stupid do you think american people are? Just because this rag, Newsmax and Faux Propaganda channel along with Rush the drug addict took the comments out of context…there is a problem for you anti americans….its called the video tape. Mutt robme has flip flopped on every issue, Santorum was right, he cant win, he installed Robme care in Mass with the mandate.The same man wrote the Mass bill wrote the Affordable Health care act. Robme has flip flopped so many times, no one knows what he actually would do as Presidunce. Release your taxes Mutt…at least 12 years just like Obama and Biden. But, you wont Mutt because the one year you did release proved you not only sent your money overseas to avoid paying taxes, you obviously dont trust american banks? How patriotic? Mutt ran to France in Vietnam to avoid going to war in Vietnam..how can he be Commander in Chief? Sorry, but your racists would rather have the white guy as president, even though he continues to outsource our jobs to China and India, while our country is going down the tubes. No foreign policy experience except when he was ran to France to avoid the draft…bring it on Mutt..

      • DaveH

        It’s right there on Youtube. Straight out of the horse’s mouth.
        “If you’ve got a business, that, You didn’t build that”.
        And why else would he be saying all those things about our need for other peoples’ assistance in order to succeed? The answer is obvious. He wants to grow our Leviathan Government even larger than it already is, using the excuse that we aren’t an island. So what? The facts show that the Bigger Government is, the smaller the economy is. It’s not only an experiential fact, it’s a logical conclusion. People in Government are insulated from repercussions for bad decisions. So where’s the incentive to perform? Plus they can force us to buy their products, unlike private businesses who must please their voluntary consumers or perish, thus losing their investments and whatever sweat equity they put into them.
        For those who want to learn the fact that Bigger Government begets Smaller Economies:
        http://www.freetheworld.com/

      • DaveH
      • DaveH

        Speak Truth says — “there is a problem for you anti americans….its called the video tape”.
        Okay, here it is:
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uzf4yjphgf8

      • TML

        Rick says, “The “that” was reference to infrastructure, not the business…. … Honestly, all the morons who pick out the words they want and ignore the facts, just show their complete ignorance.”

        The ignorance seems to be yours through a lack of reading comprehension. The entire context of his speech, as even you readily admit, was about the infrastructure as a whole being the sole reason for success… and then says, “if you have got a business, you didn’t build that.”

        “That” was in direct reference to the business you ‘got’ …with preceding context which says it wasn’t because you were smart, it wasn’t because you worked hard.

        Go back to English class Rick

      • Gordon

        Spaek The Truth/ they’re pretty damn stupid. That’s how this nation got to be so screwed up. People with no knowledge of the simplest things of life are voting on things they have absolutely no concept of what the heck is happening. That is why pretty faces, fancy rhetoric, and wild claims get votes. 80% of the general public are incompetent and can’t even balance a budget,,,, or don’t have one. Chose to not be educated, and then bitch that somebody is cheating them. Wtshtf in a year or so, yall better be prepared to live in this 3rd world country.

      • Pathfinder

        Why is it that every time Obama gets on the class warfare kick does his defenders have to re interpret what he says? This eloquent excuse for a president speaks clearly; we do not need his apologists offering translations of what they thought he said.

      • Ron r

        Gordon, I was not raised to hate anyone because of color or lack of. In fact I never saw racism untill we moved from Calf. to my fathers home in Tenn. (1960′s) My parents never taught hate, they did however tell us to stand up for ourselves.

        • macgyver1948

          Ron r… For people who refuse to find out the truth and just take the out-of-context BS there will be no hope for them until they want the truth by finding out.

          For those who can say, without finding out, “Out of Context, Nick? What part of the sentence — “If you’ve got a business — you didn’t build that” — do you not understand?” as DaveH says, proves he/they are not willing to know the truth or to even investigate to find out.

          Ron r… I believe you are wasting your emotions and efforts on those who choose to not find out anything but to believe what they are told to believe… For those of us who listened to Obama’s speech on this one we know what he really said and it isn’t what Root and Wood and Koch want anyone to believe. So, it is they who do not “understand”, as DaveH says…

      • Mike in MI

        OK, Rick -
        If the “That” is in reference to infrastructure then what do you make of his cruel promise to spend all that stimulus $$$ on infrastructure, roads and “shovel ready jobs” that somehow weren’t there to dig? Evidently he was just flapping his gums without any real concern for the poor people he claimed to be so intent on helping. Also, explain to us were the money went…if you dare.
        If this charlatan is so-o-o-o eddicadid, entaligint, and hahvid preepayud why in the name of Obama can’t he put together a clear paragraph that clearly states what he intends to say – or IS what he said what he intended in order to confuse and divide everybody? (More Alinsky. Never say what you mean unless you can do it out of both sides of your face and walk it back to scramble any discussion.)
        By the way, If he really meant that government roads and services are the cause of a business’ success and his efforts are why “It’s workin’ ” and why everything is improving so much why did he let all those businesses go down the tubes?
        Why didn’t he stop them from closing their doors? He could have made them succeed, couldn’t he? Why did he make all those pink slips go out and workers lose their homes? He could have helped the middle class a lot better that way.
        Why didn’t he?… unless he’s just plain cruel…or REALLY stupid…or both. On the other hand maybe he’s just a conman and you’re his willing mark who likes getting took.

    • Derek Schneider

      He very specifically stated YOU did not build THAT.
      It was written that way…he didn’t misread his ever present teleprompter.
      It is not out of context…it is exactly as he stated.
      This president thinks everything we have is an asset of our government…when, constitutionally, the government is supposed to be an asset of the people…not a redistribution of wealth from working people to people who are dependent on our government to pay their way through life.

    • http://None Mike C

      Nickolas, I think you have taken the comments out of context. Listen to it again on youtube and focus on the way he says. His tone. See if you can sense his disdain for all things capitalistic. Humans are quite clever. We can read into not just the words but the body langauge and the tone of voice. We can take in all that information then ration out his actions and policies as a comparison. Truth is, In 4 years Obama has really done very little to help the private sector. We have massive unemployment, little growth, debt. His focus has been on infrastructure and healthcare- things the people did not want.

    • EdinNola

      Yes we heard EXACTLY what Obama said. And the comments were not taken out of context.

      Fact is Elizabeth Warren said almost exactly the same thing beforehand – maybe she was told to run it up the flagpole and see how many people noticed or objected. As for you guys who insist on justifying that political faux pas, those roads, were built with taxpayer money and most continue to be maintained by taxpayer money, most of which came / comes from businesses. Businesses which use the highways pay fuel taxes – they pay road use taxes – licensing fees – they pay more than their fair share of taxes generally. Communication systems can hardly be said to be provided by government – more like government sustains itself by leaching off the communication system. Water, garbage, etc. etc. etc. are PAID for by usage. Where do you or anyone else get off by trying to detract from legitimate creators. Government creates nothing but heartache and stumbling blocks for society, especially when it takes on the Marxist tones of the current administration.

      Your position and Obama’s is the core Marxist position that everything belongs to and comes from the central authority or the government. I totally reject that position and challenge anyone to truthfully name any country which has successfully maintained a “Communist government” for more than one generation without aid from the USA or some other “wealth” source.

      The bottom line is that Communism or Marxism is a public relations scam. Lie to the people so they will give you power. Alinsky was indeed being truthful when he said the object of Community Organizing (Communism) was POWER. Nothing else, certainly nothing altruistic, just power for the “Organizer”.

      • Nancy in Nebraska

        Exactly! You speak the truth!

      • Winddrinker

        Edin, good post.

      • Gordon

        Have youz ever talked to lots of people from every walk of life and asked them what they would do IF they won the lottery? I have. I have done it for decades. It is a very good indicator of whom those people are.

        Most all will say that they will sit on their laurels and vegetate, retire, etc. Few would continue working, anywhere. Fewer would build a business for their personal satisfaction and success. Facts are simple and obvious. When people get FREE MONEY they will take their money and their talents and piss them all away. The sign says “Don’t feed the bears. They will get dependent on handouts and become a nuciense to people”.

    • Shelia

      Nickolas Cordoba you are right. The Republicans will harp on anything and lie about everything to win this election.

  • SamFox

    This is only one of many 0 lies/mis-statements.

    He has a list of lies. Look them up.

    No lobbyists, transparency, lower un-employment..

    Long list.

    SamFox

  • CHRISTOPHER ALLEN HORTON

    I FORGOT TO MENTION – OF COURSE, THE KENYAN COULD NOT PLAINLY SAY, “Lord,” IN A POLITICAL SPEECH.

    • http://aol malcoolmX

      but he could say Mohammid, or Abraham

    • Gordon

      One steeped in islam would. Anything to overthrow the infidel is acceptable. Look up the Rev. Jeremiah Wright interview (Hannity was the only one who talked it) in which Wright states that Obama IS a muslim, steeped in islamic culture, and that Obama was not using the Wright church as his spiritual base, but as his political base for politcal ends. Wright also states that Obama tried to pay him off to shut him up and when Wright refused he was threatened. Fact is that the non-citizen muslim new world order marxist is seeking to destroy the sovereignty of the United States of America, and will do so ASAP.

      • Gea

        Barak Hussin cannot help it to be a Maxist Muslim just like his Kenyan dad and Indonesian step dad. In addition, when his mom shipped him back to Hawaii where he lived with his white grandparents and attended a private school when his grandma was a manager of a bank, the grandpa hired Frank Marshall Davis as a tutor and black man role model, which he as a white man could not provide.

        This dude was a member of Hawaiian Communist party (Obama’s Communist Mentor – Accuracy in Media http://www.aim.org › AIM Column) and he was tutoring young Barak Hussein for 8 years, from age 10-18. Such influences go deep and therefore, while Obama is a very rich man, his loyalties are with ideologies of Communism and Islam, either of which stink and are totally un-American, since they are incompatible with the Universal Declaration of Human Rights. and US Constittuion Even his belonging to a racist church whose reverend Jeremiah Wright ranted GOD DAMN AMERICA (with Obamas keeping mum), is a phoney baloney.

        Obama stand for everything that is contrary to good American values, except his steady marriage. He must be retired in November and go back to Chicago, where he can write about Dreams of his Mother, which will be much more interesting than his Kenyan drunkard father. It will be interesting to know what an intelligent 17 old while girl fell for an older married Muslim Marxist from Kenya and had a child at 18, and then again fell for an Marxist Muslim man from Indonesia, who was a spokesman for oil industry.

        Obama may be a nice man but he is leading America totally astray with his extolling Islam and Koran, dissing Bible and bowing to Saudi king, whose subjects had committed crimes of 9/11, while shouting Allahu Akbar.

  • Harold Olsen

    It’s so obviously clear that Obama, like most liberals, consider successful people to be evil while they consider people who are lazy and want other people to take care of them to be heroes. Therefore, Obama criticizes people who, with hard work and sweat, build successful businesses. Everyday he seems to go out of his way to show what a scumbag he is. While it is true that entrepreneurs don’t build success on their own but by having a good product or service that people want and who keep returning as their customers. But, nevertheless, it was the entrepreneur’s vision that built his business. How they ran it and what they offered is what made it a success.

    • CHRISTOPHER ALLEN HORTON

      “Harold Olsen,”

      I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH YOUR LAST COMMENTS.

      PEOPLE ON THIS SITE HAVE ACCUSED ME OF STEREOTYPING WHEN IT COMES TO NEGROES. YET, I GUARANTEE, ANY NEGRO WHO READ THE PRESIDENT’S WORDS WOULD HAVE THE SAME EXPLANATION I GAVE IN MY COMMENTS.

      • http://twitter.com/ericbischoff Eric Bischoff (@ericbischoff)

        Christopher, maybe it’s time for you to crawl back under your rock.

      • GRusling

        It’s past time for the “Politically Correct” in our midst face the truth, and stop spinning and redefining “words” to try and gain the moral high ground. The word “Negro” is simply “Black” in Spanish, and the Spanish were the major slave traders in colonial times, so the colonists simply picked up on the “word” they used to describe their cargo, and over time it was adapted to their language modification (known as the American dialect) as opposed to proper English and/or Spanish. The word “Black” is OK, but the exact same word spoken in Spanish is somehow not?

        Talk about a group of people being completely illogical…

      • JeffH

        Gee Eric the Red, maybe it’s time for you to return to your homeland…”Mother Russia”.

      • Ron r

        you are an idiot Horton/ ruckus and a coward.

  • FreedomFighter

    Obama is just another commie reading a telepromter.

    Laus Deo
    Semper Fi

    • Sirian

      FF,
      He didn’t have his teleprompter. That, Thank God, is how he managed to openly reveal his true side. I fully agree with you though – without question! Not having his teleprompter provided all of us with a much clearer view of what we have in the Oval Office. The proof is in the puddin’ for sure!!

      • Nancy in Nebraska

        Oh, come on! Seriously?! He didn’t have his teleprompter?!? I thought he was afraid to open his mouth and speak without it. I thought “they” didn’t trust him to open his mouth and speak without it! I guess “they” were right!

  • Michael J.

    His rants are aimed at the wealthy. He will eventually try to point out that rich people got rich by stealing other peoples money. That making a profit is dispicable. This line of thinking wreaks of Bolshevism. The wealthy people of Russia were stripped of there wealth, their homes and thrown into the street. The Proletariate were promised an equal share but received only hunger, destitution and the fear of a midnite knock at their door.

    Out of the closet comes this view of who he really is. I’ve warned of this since 2007, but there can no longer be any doubt, even by his staunchest supporters as to where this is leading.

    Now for the scary part, no incumbent seeking re-election would reveal intentions such as this unless they were somehow assured that a second term was in the bag.

    • Warrior

      The vast majority of “private business” interests (not feeding at the trough) are plenty angry with this joker. There are going to be a lot of “progressives” sent packing this Nov including little barry!

      • Sirian

        I agree with you whole heartedly Warrior but I have a deep sneaking suspicion that the election in November is going to be rigged to the hilt. Between the hassles Holder has created over voter ID as well as SCYTL and associates going to be doing the vote count, sorry, my gut is telling me this isn’t going to have an outcome we are all praying for. Lord I pray I’m wrong!!

    • Nancy in Nebraska

      I have concerns about the validity of the election, myself!

      • Shelia

        you should, because Republicans are trying to keep minorities from voting vote.

      • DaveH

        No Sheila, they’re trying to keep dead people from voting, and they’re trying to keep people from voting twice.

  • JimH

    If it weren’t for successful buisnes there wouldn’t be tax dollars to build roads and bridges. That teacher that may have helped educate a future busuness owner was also payed with tax dollars that wouldn’t have been there without private industry.
    Government relies on business, not business relies on more government.

    • http://twitter.com/ericbischoff Eric Bischoff (@ericbischoff)

      Actually the whole argument is stupid and as usual disingenuous.

      One cannot exist without the others. Consumers, workers, business owners, bankers, government, lawyers and yes even mothers and teachers. That’s what makes the world go ’round. That’s what makes it all possible. That’s why you need to have respect for any and all professions. The world would not be very nice if someone didn’t pick up the garbage.

      Unfortunately there are way too many ego maniacs who still think they do it all on their own and they should have all of the money and all of the credit. They don’t like to share. Isn’t that why we now have the worst inequality and opportunity of all western industrialized nations!

      Greedy bastards is the problem, which is actually a good book by Dylan Ratigan

      • DaveH

        Eric says — “Actually the whole argument is stupid and as usual disingenuous”.
        Eric new favorite word — Disingenuous.
        Eric says — “That’s why you need to have respect for any and all professions”.
        JimH was disrespecting other professions, Eric? How? It seems to me, Eric, that it is you Progressives who are disrespecting other people, like those Business owners who earned their money in voluntary transactions with their customers, whose money you think you should be able to help yourself to.
        And note, Folks, the usual sprinkling of manipulative words and phrases employed by Eric the Progressive in his comment in an adolescent attempt to sway others with emotion rather than fact and logic. This is standard operating procedure for Liberals/Progressives. Don’t let them get away with it.
        Eric is the guy who claims he is well-read but somehow still needs to lace his comments with ridicule, condescension, name-calling, and other adolescent manipulative techniques in lieu of just presenting facts and logic.

      • JimH

        Eric, I don’t believe I diminished the role of the teacher or bridge builder. I was pointing out the importance of buisiness in providing jobs and how without private buisiness the tax base wouldn’t be there to pay for the teachers or bridge building.

      • http://twitter.com/ericbischoff Eric Bischoff (@ericbischoff)

        Yes DaveH D
        disingenuous |ˌdisinˈjenyoōəs|
        adjective
        not candid or sincere, typically by pretending that one knows less about something than one really does.

        Actually it’s a pretty good description of your behavior Dave

        I only wish I wasn’t called upon so often to use it.

      • http://twitter.com/ericbischoff Eric Bischoff (@ericbischoff)

        Yes Dave I realize it’s a little complicated for a close minded hard core Mises libertarian but in case you are unaware of it, you constantly make fun, condescend and ridicule anything in government or anyone that happens to work for the government. I guess that must make you feel superior. Only private sector americans are worthy. Only private sector jobs are worthy.

      • JeffH

        Eric the Red, give it up! Yada, yada, yada! The more you run your lips, the deeper you bury yourself!

        Partisans of freedom need not play word games like progressives. We simply need to educate ourselves and those around us, to let the lessons of liberty guide and instruct us. If enough people appreciate this fundamental understanding of freedom and the Constitution, no politician, elitist, progressive shill or media talking head can sell us socialism.

      • http://twitter.com/ericbischoff Eric Bischoff (@ericbischoff)

        Yes Jim but it’s only an opinion.

        Sometimes govt takes a chance against all conservatism that always says don’t do it, don’t change anything, don’t waste money on solar we don’t need it and it actually does something. Like it or not, it was presidential leadership and governing that spurred the space race and that is why we have so many new successful private businesses in the technology and communications industry today.

        You guys like to throw Solyndra around like it’s a mistake when in reality it’s just one failure caused by the Chinese dumping panels on the market. If you bother to look deeper you find that overall and in spite of the Chinese manipulations, it is good old fashion venture capitalism and it is having sucess. In reality the overall solar development is just in it’s infancy but once again you let the Chinese beat you by waiting too long to put tariffs on them. That’s your free trade for you.

        Who says VC money must only be private? Who says we can’t collectively choose to influence direction? If we’re going to print money I would rather we spent it it on that instead of wars. Or do you believe that only corporations should have that power.

        Thus Citizens United from the Conservative court. God forbid we try and level the playing field by having one progressive member on the Supreme Court. How unfair!

      • JimH

        Eric, The fact that government can only print money or borrow it and not create it, isn’t JUST an oppinion. It is gathered through taxation.
        Solyndra was paid for with tax dollars. Money collected from the public. Not used for what is suposed to be used for. Roads,bridges, teachers.
        Private industry, through taxation supports government, not the other way around. These business paid for the infrustructure that supports them.

      • DaveH

        I’m not candid and sincere, Eric?
        Care to prove your slander, Eric? I can prove you’re a liar and a slanderer.
        Here’s just one example from yesterday’s main article. Follow the thread to Eric’s statement that says “I find it disingenuous that you align yourselves with the Tea Party”:
        http://personalliberty.com/2012/07/26/why-are-obama-democrats-economically-illiterate/#comment-656518
        I have never aligned myself with the hodge-podge of ideology called the Tea Party, but that doesn’t stop the lying Progressive Eric from making that up.
        And on the same board, Eric says this — “You on the other hand and anyone who stands for defense and the obscene military industrial complex are the ones who really are for big govt”.
        Again, I have never said I’m for the military industrial complex. In fact I quite regularly stump against the United States Imperialist Military Actions. But, again, that doesn’t stop the Lying Progressive Eric from making stuff up.
        It seems that these Progressives just can’t be honest. Is it because their policies just can’t stand up to logic and facts? Of course it is.

      • JeffH

        Dave H, not to worry…I know you understand that progressives and liberals base their comments on their emotions…you’ve obviously challenged, among others, Eric the Red and those types of accusations are all they have left. Anybody that has been around here as long as Eric the Red should know where you stand. Al I can say is “stupid is as stupid does”!

  • Tazio2013

    BHO – the lesser of two evils – is still preferable to Mittens.

  • Robert

    Actually Obama should have said. ” You didn’t build that, China did. Just go to Wal-mart and look around “.

    • http://None Mike C

      Good point! I’m so glad that during Obama’s term, especially during the first two years when he had a supermajority, he did so much to stop outsourcing and repeal NAFTA. That has put American manufacturing back on pace.

      • Nancy in Nebraska

        He saved GM! 8 out of 10 of their jobs are in China! Our bail out really helped Americans get jobs, right?!?

      • Proud to be American

        To Mike C

        Its that so, then where are the Jobs Mike?

        The only thing I know that this (Imposter) has made the economy worst, and I can not take 4 more years of his BS, if he is re-elected, he will finish us off, he will destroy our country. The man is dirty to the core

      • gunner689AI

        yeah, gvt. regulatory jobs. the only thing they mfg. is paper work.

  • Shelia

    What the President meant was, the customers and clients brought goods from the Business owners, therefore their businesses profited. He did not mean that they did not build it. The Republicans will harp on anything and turn it around to help them.

    • Scott

      Seriously Shelia?!?! Do you really believe what you just said? If you do – you really are lost.

    • Betty

      Sheila…And you think Obama doesn’t do the same thing? Of the two, Mitt or Obama, I believe when Obama’s lips are moving…he’s always lying!

      • Shelia

        and Mitt lips are constantly lying.

    • Nadzieja Batki

      O said exactly what he meant. His words are captured for posterity. You have a problem with hearing and listening.

    • Patriot

      Shelia, you are truly a DRONE and your mind is completely closed. Listen to the speech, his conviction and passion to how he said it, that is truly compelling as to how he really thinks. When the man comes off the teleprompter you see who he really is, a complete socialist, Marxist and what-to-be dictator! We have a civil war within our government and they need to be crushed before it is too late. I feel there is a sleeping giant awakening going on within our country with liberty and freedom winning the day!

    • DaveH

      If he did not mean it, Sheila, why did he say it?

    • Winddrinker

      Shelia, do you have a crystal ball? How is it that you know what he “meant” (instead of what he said!)

    • Nancy in Nebraska

      Another OPINION on what obummer MEANT!!! He MEANT exactly what he SAID!!! LOOK OUT!!! IT’S COMING!!!

      • eddie47d

        What Obama said was rather factual for we all depend on someone else to achieve our goals in life. His comment will hardly sink him and those who misinterpret could do more harm than good. Although we should give individual credit where credit is due and he could have explained his comment better.

  • DAK

    This November will be a squeaker, no doubt about that, but I think Obama will get another term. Not because he WINS the election, but rather because Romney will LOSE the election. The GOP will snatch defeat from the jaws of victory this year and I firmly feel Newt and Santorum were correct in their statements during the primaries. Mitt is a liar (Newt) and the worst Republican to run in November (Santorum.)
    Even with all of Obama’s statements, those directly quoted and those taken out of context, all the lies and half-truths about his record and accomplishments (or lack thereof depending on which side you listen to) and even with all the hatred and racial remarks constantly being spewed by those few, but very vocal, racists memeber of the far-rightwing fringe since 2008… All that will make no difference when stacked against the fact that Mitt Romney IS NOT the man for the job. Not his year, not in 2016, nor any year after. A tiger doesn’t change his stripes and Mitt cannot change his past. He can misrepresent it, he can whitewash it, he can run from it, he can even outright lie about it, but he cannot excape it.

    If the GOP wants to win in November, they had better nominate Ron Paul in Tampa. Throw Romney under the bus, talk him into taking one for the team, pay him off with a cabinet position… something, anything. Just get the man off the stage and get him to be quiet and let someone who can give us their own views and a vision for the future. Ron Paul doesn’t tell us what is wrong with Obama, he tells us what he, Ron Paul, wants to do. That is what will bring people out to vote. It is ALWAYS better to be FOR something rather than AGAINST something and this “Anyone but Obama” will only get the GOP so far in the vote tally and I don’t think it will be far enough to win in November. Just my two cents.

    • http://www.facebook.com/rerogersjr Rick Rogers

      Dak Ron Paul would make the election interesting. He does not pander to the Christian right like other republicans.. How a party that says they are for the constitution and then demands that their candidate be “god fearing Christian” is something I don’t understand. I don’t give a tinkers demand what a candidates religion is unless they sacrifice children in the moon light or believe a man is entitled to more then one wife. If churches want to start playing politics then it’s time to start taxing the churchs. If I hear one more time about how they are following gods plan I may throw up. No one knows his plan. No one knows his words. No people the bible was written by men not some divine hand came out of the sky and put it on paper a man wrote it. In fact the first man that is created with translate the bible into English was john Rogers an ancestor of mine. Who just happen to have been bunted at the stake for doing that translation

      • Nadzieja Batki

        You are supposedly a Libertarian, then why does your post sound like a Leftist pretending to be a Libertarian.

      • DaveH

        Nad,
        What did Rick say to make you believe he is a Libertarian?

  • http://liberty Tony

    To Everyone: I don’t know who’s worse, Obama or Romney!! I mean you listen to the foolish “whopper gaffes” Mit Romney’s making in London, it’s getting to be def-comedy jam. Basically, it’s fixed for Obama to win. Farewell!! TGIF too!!

  • Chester

    Sheila, personally, still think he was referring to ALL the infrastructure., not just the bricks and mortar building, or the actual business held therein. I have been the business building route myself a time or two, and I for sure could have done NOTHING without having the infrastructure in place to bring my customers to me, and to allow me to communicate with them by other means than face to face conversations.

    • DaveH

      And Big Government could not exist without the votes of uninformed people, taxes from unwilling contributors, the aid of their Crony Capitalists, and the Propaganda from their Public Schools and Court Media.

      • DaveH

        In 1900 Government existed on 3% of the Gross Domestic Product.
        Now, they need to consume 40% of the GDP, 13 times their size in 1900.
        Are we thirteen times more in need of protection than our 1900 ancestors? Of course not. Government has just done what they have throughout history — Grow their Power and Perks. We have retrogressed to the primitive condition — Serfdom of the common citizen.

      • Winddrinker

        Progressives, as they call themselves , are nothing but “RETROS” that want to take this country BACKWARD to a “feudal state” where we all serve the King! The King owns everything, even the rewards of individual’s labor…hmmmm, sounds like today.

    • Shelia

      I can agree with you on that.

      • tom tee

        No the right wants us to bow to big business and the 1%. If they get in power then everyone else will just be stooges to the almighty Big business!

  • Armyblue

    he’s just doing what a socialists does. . .all words. . .plays the crowd. . .goes into the black preacher mode. . .kisses the Arabs. . .toasts the Queen. . .all words with his socialist agenda. Business owners are his biggest enemy. . .has to tax them outta existence.

    • JeffH

      Armyblue, I have to disagree…he’s just doing what a Marxist community organizer would do.

      Notice that Obama has a tendancy of appearing with no tie, an open collar and rolled up sleeves when he speaks to these crowds…there’s a reason he does this…with this phony appearance he thinks he’s connecting with middle class American’s, which he’s never done…honestly. This is strictly for effect and nothing more.

  • sb36695

    Obama believes you should do whatever he says. He will determine what you get. And we elected him because he could read a teleprompter. What does that say about us? As a small business owner, I didn’t vote for him. My business cannot survive marxists, and his past scared the he!! out of me. If he is reelected, I am closing.

    • JimmyM

      You will be doing exactly what MANY others have done since this wacked out dog dung has done since he’s been in office with his other yard layers. None of these people know ANYTHING about hard work or transparency yet they want to hire more IRS agents to come after everyone else’s money and forget about paying their own way. How many from this administration are tax evaders? How much money do you think they all owe? Of course they are so transparent we won’t ever know. Just like BO’s birth place. His entire administration needs to ride a slow boat to he!!.
      People will continue to close doors to their businesses if this b@$tard stays in office. What’s worse sending jobs to other countries or closing businesses and living off the goverment? He’s blasting Mitt for it but is it REALLY true?

    • Ron r

      Then close, move to Russia or Kenya maybe.

  • http://twistedstick.wordpress.com twistedstick

    obama never work hard to get what he got, what I mean by that he din’t clean a barn out, work in the logging wood do consrution work hell I bet he can’t eve use a wheel barrow right .Most everything he has been grants scolorship, this guy doesn’t know how hard the American work has work over the years, he think he does. To me he remind me of a used car salesman he will sell you shinny car of the lot and 5 miles down the road it breaks down. Everything he said he do last time he has never done how in the hell can anyone be so dum as to vote this joker where do I have the right to talk about him like that, I spent a big part of my life on a farm and working in the looging woods, and we were the first to lose our job because of the left wing no it alls

    • DAK

      Maybe not, but neither did Romney (although I would bet Mitt would know how to spell wheelbarrow.)

      • DaveH

        You’re comparing Obama’s business experience with Romney’s, DAK? That’s a stretch.
        Disclaimer: I don’t think either should be our President.
        Freedom loving people need to start thinking and investigate the Libertarian Principles. No other political party comes close:
        http://libertarianparty.org/platform
        We believe in Free Markets. We believe that the consumers, NOT the bought-and-paid-for Politicians, should decide what to buy and what to sell. If you don’t like a product, don’t buy it. If you build a shoddy product, customers are free NOT to purchase it.
        Government’s only role in the Marketplace should be to litigate against Fraudulent operators (those who lie about what their products do).

      • DAK

        Not comparing, just pointing out that Mitt didn’t start a business with a dollar and a dream. He had help (even if that isa dirty work with the far-right) from his family ties, his daddy’s wealth, his political connections in the Church… yet all this help doesn’t count? Give me 60 million dollars and let me go to France other than to war and I’d bet I would be just as successful.

      • DaveH

        Everybody has help, DAK, but it’s voluntary help. If there are strings attached to that “help”, then morally and legally those strings should be divulged before the recipient receives that help. Personally, I don’t want Government’s “help”, and I would opt out if I could, but being that they are the biggest most powerful gang in the land I have no choice in the matter. My only hope is to convince other Freedom Loving people of what Big Government really is — a huge Threat to our Freedom and our Pocketbooks.

    • Karolyn

      Just because someone has never done physical work in his lifetime does not make him less than anyone else. It is so annoying when people pridefully point to how they worked their a$$es off to geet to where they got. The really smart people don’t have to do that.

      • JeffH

        Karoyn, are you saying that smart people don’t have to work hard because they are “smarter” or are you saying that people that work hard to get ahead aren’t smart? Just askin’?

      • Karolyn

        I’m saying that working smart is better than working hard. As much, or more, gain can be had by working smarter instead of busting one’s butt.

      • JeffH

        I get it and it’s just what I thought you meant…liberal logic. Being less than successful I guess you’re not smart either.

      • DaveH

        “No one shall be idle if I have to work; no one shall be rich if I am poor. Thus we see, again and again, that resentment lies behind all socialist ideas”.
        – Ludwig von Mises

  • G. Smith

    Using edited speeches and cut and paste tricks to reshape a statement which is on youtube for God’s sake, shows a level of desperation that will only increase until this becomes so shrill it will be ignored. It’s a very bad tactic and rest assured this incumbent campaign is way to smart to let you get away with it and they will make you pay for it.

    • momo

      You’re right, they’re so smart they’re not even running on their record. That should tell you something.

  • Deerinwater

    Well, Chip you are only point out the major difference of a fundamental mindset among people and it’s not a lie but Obama asking for reflection of ones self.

    It would seem that a Tea Party activist argument is predicated on some notion that one day they just ” fell from the sky” and started accumulating wealth and owe no gratitude or debit of appreciation to no one or anything except God.

    This self serving attitude is not that common among most people for if it were, Ayn Rand novels would not be so profound and popular as she attempt to valid and justify “self indulgence” page after page after page.

    A world full of Ayn Rand’s is a scary thought.

    It’s good that you bring forward this fundamental “difference”, perhaps it might be discussed ~ but I seriously doubt it,as few could make it appear very flattering to defend such a selective memory.

    • Paul Wells

      DIW, you are every bit as bad as Oblama is. You negate the value and virtue of hard work and sweat equity, and want to pretend that people that did build something out of not much were just lucky. Keep drinking the kool-aide, and think that the great “equalizer” will right all the wrongs, and make those sponges and drags on society as well paid as people who paved the way with their sweat and toil, and pretty soon this country will be finished. What a load of crap you are spreading!

    • Flashy

      DW…just taking this one comment “Anyone who drives a car or truck did pay for those “roads and bridges.” All of this infrastructure (and a lot more besides) was financed by the taxes on the fuel we used.

      No, the message the President was trying to convey seems pretty clear to me: Every successful entrepreneur in America owes a debt of gratitude — and a lot more taxes — to government. Not only that, but the more successful you are, the more you owe.” states the ignorance underlying the criticism the author relies upon for support. roads, grants, loans, sibsidies, guarantees, non-road infratrucure (broadband everywhere, electrical grid everywhere, hydro power, etc ) and the maintenance (go ahead, cross that worn out bridge weakened by millions of cars and trucks going over it), a trained workforce, subsidized insurance (workmans comp), retraining laid off workers outsourced, a stable peaceful social structure and on and on.

      Of course, though…they did it on their own and owe nothing to the society which gave them these benefits.

      this has got to rank up there as being an article who’s believability is totally dependent upon the ignorance and absolute bias of a brain dead reader.

      • TML

        Flashy says, “No, the message the President was trying to convey seems pretty clear to me: Every successful entrepreneur in America owes a debt of gratitude — and a lot more taxes — to government. Not only that, but the more successful you are, the more you owe.” states the ignorance underlying the criticism the author relies upon for support.”

        I don’t see that as ignorant at all… in fact, after you ramble on, you then come to the very same conclusion when you express sarcastically… “Of course, though…they did it on their own and owe nothing to the society which gave them these benefits.”

        So, I’d seriously say the ignorance is yours my friend…

        “roads, grants, loans, sibsidies, guarantees, non-road infratrucure (broadband everywhere, electrical grid everywhere, hydro power, etc ) and the maintenance (go ahead, cross that worn out bridge weakened by millions of cars and trucks going over it), a trained workforce, subsidized insurance (workmans comp), retraining laid off workers outsourced, a stable peaceful social structure and on and on.”

        Hmm, seems like all of those things are paid for by the owner of the company. When you have something shipped to you via roads, do you not pay for the shipping? Does the company not pay for the broadband, or the electricity? Are trained employees not paid? etc. etc. etc. ? ….. why then is MORE owed to society? The benefits were not “given” to them as you say.

        Flashy says, “this has got to rank up there as being an article who’s believability is totally dependent upon the ignorance and absolute bias of a brain dead reader.”

        I would say the same of your assessment Flashy… this has got to be one of the most ignorant comments you’ve ever made.

    • Patriot

      DIW – you would be the first in line following the Pied Piper, the is no hope for the hopeless! Obama is matching us to the cliff and you are lock step behind his ass! I will bet the elitists are laughing their heads off that they put in place a guy like Obama and many drones are actually taking him seriously, if they can pull this off on the American Public, what can’t they do?

      • DAK

        Hopefully they cannot get Romney elected…

      • Winddrinker

        America has a lot of “obama zombies!” They walk around with glazed eyes and a fixed stare…if obumscum said, it has got to be true.. Even if they see their master on video and hear the words coming straight from his mouth….they will turn, look you straight in the eye, and deny he ever said it! Their brains cannot process “reality.” Wondering if there is some kind of zombie drug on those medicaid cards that seep into the systems of the card holders. Must be a form of mind control..

    • http://harleyspoon.wordpress.com harleyspoon

      But even old Ayn Rand (a smoker) grabbed that government teat when she contracted cancer and couldn’t carry her own weight (after selling all those books). Yep..She jumped into Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid faster than lightning can strike. That’s how it is with these clowns who talk the Libertarian line..

      Years ago–when I worked in the Texas Legislature–one of my old rich Republican friends was wiped out by a major flood on the San Jacinto River in Montgomery County, Texas. He called me immediately after the flood wiped out his farm (livestock, implements, barns, house, pets, etc.) and asked me to help him get his “federal and state disaster relief”. I reminded him of his disdain for those programs when the Mississippi River flooded and broke the levees (BUILT BY TAXPAYERS) and washed out farms and small towns up and down its banks…I reminded him that he didn’t think it was right for taxpayers to bail out the dummies who lived in a flood plain…that is was “socialism”…I asked him why he had changed his mind and why should I help him get taxpayers hard-earned money to rebuild his place in a 25 year flood plain??? He said, “Well, Harley, that was then and this is now..and that was them and this is me!” THAT IS THE TYPICAL LIBERTARIAN, REPUBLICAN, TEAPUBLICAN ATTITUDE..AS IT WAS, HE GOT HIS RELIEF AND, WITHOUT A DIME OUT OF HIS POCKET, HIS PLACE WAS COMPLETELY REBUILT WITH TAXPAYER MONEY…HE IS STILL MY FRIEND BUT I DID LOSE A LITTLE RESPECT FOR HIM BECAUSE I FOUND HIM TO BE A HYPOCRITE…AS MOST RIGHT WING IDEOLOGUES ARE!!

  • http://www.facebook.com/rerogersjr Rick Rogers

    No one has a business without clients or customers and I am counting myself on that. My customers and clients built my business I would not have one without them so they are the architects of my success. Every business out there was created to fill a need. In very few cases did they create that need. The infrastructure for american commerce to be successful the roads, airports, ports the majority of those where created by federal, state and local governments. If your to stupid to understand that, then your too stupid to vote. Unfortunately that does not keep you from voting anyway. But its ok that’s what we have the republican party for so you will feel included. I weep for what the republicans have become. They are the exact thing that Barry Goldwater warned us about in the 60′s and 70′s. Hell Ronald Reagan would be to liberal for the people running that party now a days.

    • http://twitter.com/ericbischoff Eric Bischoff (@ericbischoff)

      Rick Rogers, I agree, well said.

    • DaveH

      Rick says — “My customers and clients built my business”.
      No Rick, your customers and clients did NOT build your business (if you even have one, which I doubt). They simply took advantage of what you were offering them, with no sweat equity on their part other than to include your business in their search to satisfy their needs.
      Rick says — “The infrastructure for american commerce to be successful the roads, airports, ports the majority of those where created by federal, state and local governments”.
      Before Governments expanded their Power over the citizens, private companies built the roads so that their customers would have a way to reach them. Government took over this task to expand their Power and enrich their crony capitalists, not to serve the people.
      It is well known that whatever Government does, they do it less efficiently than the Free Market Private Sector would have done it.
      Then Rick has the nerve to say — “If your to stupid to understand that, then your too stupid to vote.”
      Typical Liberal manipulation. Fortunately, the majority of the readers on this board are seeking real information, not Propaganda. Those people can read this:
      http://mises.org/journals/scholar/internal.pdf

    • http://twistedstick.wordpress.com twistedstick

      Rick Rodgers, I do understand what your trying to say but you built your business your self yes you need customers, but you and you alone if you own this by yourself had to make your customers happy or it goes down the tubs, He saying you didn’t do all this he saying the bank that may of loan you money, you have book keeper maybe workers but you make sure there doing their work right, if stop showing up to work sooner or later that business is gone. yes you had help along the way but if was there to start it there would be no Rick Rodgers business. I have one myself nobody built it for me I did it myself on my word and the respect of my customer

    • Patriot

      Rick – I am very confident that you do not own a business, because you sir are the idiot by your stupid comments. While “yes” you need customers, these customers did not wake up 1 day and say, geez, I will do business with you. Someone had to work very hard finding those clients to develop goodwill and trust so, that particular business could thrive. Then, those business and individuals pay significant taxes income, property and collect sales taxes for the government so the entire infrastructure can be built by private industry. When you figure that out, you will become part of the solution and not part the problem!

    • Nancy in Nebraska

      Rick, did your customers give you the money to build your business? Did they say here, I’ll work for you tomorrow so you can have a day off? No, they didn’t! It’s true, you wouldn’t be in business without your customers. But it is YOUR hard work in providing them with what they want that built your business and keeps it going today! You need to recognize that obummer is saying that you didn’t build your business because the next step in his agenda is to say, because you didn’t build it yourself, it belongs to all of us! It happened in Cuba, in Germany, in Russia and many other places! You need to take off the blinders and work extra hard just to keep what you already have. Or the customers you depend on will be customers of the government!!!

    • TML

      Rick Rogers says, “No one has a business without clients or customers and I am counting myself on that. My customers and clients built my business I would not have one without them so they are the architects of my success. Every business out there was created to fill a need. In very few cases did they create that need. The infrastructure for american commerce to be successful the roads, airports, ports the majority of those where created by federal, state and local governments.”

      That’s stating the obvious… but you never follow through on your point before bashing republicans. So heres another fact for you… Mr. Obvious says… You wouldn’t have customers if you didn’t work hard to build the company in the first place, and work hard to satisfy the customers, and keep them satisfied. Roads, airports, and ports, were paid for by taxpayers… and the company, or business owner pays for the services those things offer when they use/need them to conduct business. They already contribute back to society and future generation through filling that ‘need’ the business fills. Some customers are even other businesses, and not the general public.

      So what is the ultimate point you, or Obama, are trying to make? Obama even implies that if your business is successful it wasn’t because you worked hard or even smart… but owe everything to others… it’s a socialist/communist idealist ploy… and if you don’t see or understand that, your too stupid to vote. Unfortunately that does not keep you from voting anyway. But its ok that’s what we have the Democratic party for so you will feel included. lol ;)

    • Winddrinker

      You must be too stupid to vote Rick Rogers, if you think that government built the roads and bridges.

      The government has no money! It steals from the people that still work and produce! Government doesn’t make money or produce anything except hardship and hurdles.. Businesses and individual taxpayers built the infrastructure! They pay dearly to build the roadways that all your stupid lazy freeloaders use! Why not have those freeloaders pay us back, or not let the non-taxpaying, gimme people, use them!

      The “gimme people” TAKE, they don’t GIVE! Government TAKES, it doesn’t GIVE!

      I think you have got things backward, conjur on that for a while..

  • DaveH

    Let’s face it. It’s not just Obama, it’s Big Government in general. We have allowed them, through our apathy, to become nothing more than the biggest parasitic gang in the country. Our forefathers gave their lives for Freedom, and we, their descendants, couldn’t even be bothered with doing some studying to learn how important it is to stop Government from their natural tendencies to Grow their Power and Perks.

    • Sirian

      Agreed!! Yes, our Founding Fathers warned us of this – have we listened – NO! The price we may pay is unfathomable.

    • http://twitter.com/ericbischoff Eric Bischoff (@ericbischoff)

      I sort of agree with you Dave.

      But first before you flip out on me as you usually do on anything I say, (God knows only libertarians are allowed to have any worthwhile ideas and opinions), hear me out.

      Unlike the libertarians who always and only see government as the problem, I think it’s greedy bastards that have taken over our government that are the problem. They did this by massive lobbying, massive amounts of money to spew out lies on TV ads and organizations like ALEC that write laws for corporations and then distribute them to the states politicians to pass. These are not to benefit you and I.

      After all government is merely americans doing a job they were hired to do. It’s bloated and out of control I’ll grant you that but with high unemployment already, have you thought about the repercussions of laying off more people. What will that do to the to the economy? How do you solve that problem? Businesses will all suffer if more consumers are unemployed.

      Or do you just stick to your rigid ideologies and ignore this elephant in the room. Have you been paying attention or are you on of those who have Support our Troops stickers on their cars but do nothing for them when they come home from the wars with PTSD, are unemployed and too often homeless and end up committing suicide!

      Let’s be honest, private sector does not and will not ever do it all. For example I know you all like to make fun of the post office but I am in transportation and I can tell you that the private sector will never cover everywhere and they certainly won’t do it as cheap. But that won’t stop the express carriers from lobbying to privatize the post office. Yeah take out the competition and cherry pick the business, raise rates and get rid of the rest. I guarantee you, you won’t like the end result. And by the way they are not fiscally unsound. They were merely made to look that way for the election and the privatization effort. They were forced to put up many years of pensions up front. Something we don’t demand of any other organization or businesses.

      Right now there is a litany of failed privatization projects where the people are sorry they were sold a bill of goods. Can’t we learn from our mistakes. Privatization is just more greed.

      Then there’s wall street salivating at the last pool of money. They’ve gone through your home equity, your 401Ks, your savings, what’s left? Your social security!. So what do they do? They get you to believe that it’s broke, when in actuality it is well funded and will be alright if we manage to lower unemployment. Did anyone ever think that by raising the retirement age we are actually screwing the young people who are just out of school, heavily indebted and in need of a job to pay back their loans?

      I’ll throw out another one to think about. The EPA. Yes it’s a disaster. But what did we Americans create the EPA for? Wasn’t it to protect our air, water, land and all living things from corporations and private businesses that didn’t think twice about dumping poisons in our water and releasing lead and mercury in our air or selling inferior products that make us sick? Isn’t that why we wanted and EPA? But hey businesses figured out that by lobbying , like the gas fracking industry has just done by getting an exemption from water and air standards which every one else has to follow. Cheney gave them a free pass. A do not go to jail and do pay a fee pass. You and I all have that right.

      I say we demand we get what we paid for first then we figure out how to make it more efficient and lean and yes less of it. I guarantee you if laws are in our favor and enforced we’ll have a lot less problems, pollution and crime and we won’t need so much government. A pound of prevention is always much cheaper that fixing the problem after the fact. Businesses are dumping their problems on us. They make us pay for the clean up. That’s why we’re going broke. That’s why we don’t need nuclear reactors to make electricity. Remember we are on the hook to pay to decommission their reactors and manage their waste for hundreds of thousands of years. How much is that going to cost us?

      Just like we won’t need the most bloated and obscenely expensive defense budget if we bring our troops home close all 1000 foreign bases and start minding our own business and putting our own house in order. Boy we have all of the guns we could ever want and we are are still scared. Is that why we allow this corporate controlled (fascist) government to spend more of our hard earned tax money than all other nations combined? Now that’s ridiculous.

      If you want to be successful in business, you need a healthy, dedicated, happy, educated workforce, a good infrastructure and consumers who can spend. If we want to compete in the world, we better have a first rate infrastructure. Right now we ‘re getting our arses kicked. How do we rebuild that? Certainly not by spending everything on military, prisons and corporate welfare and certainly not by making more consumers unemployed

      Your thoughts!

      .

      • DaveH

        It is your kind, Eric, who want to impose their wills on others with the Force of Government, not my kind. So don’t give me that — “God knows only libertarians are allowed to have any worthwhile ideas and opinions”.
        Of course I can’t stop you from posting your nonsense, and you know that, but choose instead to imply that I am trying to stop it. In fact I have said several times that your Progressive presence on this board is a good thing for those who don’t really know what Progressives are all about.
        Meanwhile, if you were really interested in learning some reality (I doubt it), you would read this book. The author does a good job of avoiding the arcane language of economics in order to explain in simpler terms to lay people why Free Markets (Capitalism) would bring this country back to not only Freedom but also Prosperity:
        http://mises.org/books/capitalism_kelly.pdf

        Why is it that I doubt you will read the book, Eric?

      • DaveH

        Eric says — “I think it’s greedy bastards that have taken over our government”.
        First of all, why do you think it necessary, Eric, to use such foul language?
        Secondly, that is what Big Governments are all about — enrichment of themselves and their Cronies. It always has been. So what in the world makes you think your brand of Big Government would be any better?

      • DaveH

        Eric says — “have you thought about the repercussions of laying off more people”.
        Yes, I have. Have you ever heard the saying “don’t throw good money after bad”?
        As long as we have millions of people sitting idle or working at jobs that are not in demand by voluntary consumers, we will have fewer goods and services in the economy — Goods and services that are needed by poor people as well as the rest of us.
        Returning the money that Government is wasting to the Private Sector would result in real jobs for people producing real goods and services (those which the consumers really need and want).
        Perhaps you should read this, Eric, and learn something about Capital Investment and the results of its absence:
        http://mises.org/daily/5277/When-Capital-Is-Nowhere-in-View

      • DaveH

        Eric says — “Or do you just stick to your rigid ideologies”.
        My rigid ideologies? I’ve explained my point of view to others and offered links to much reading material, so that people can make up their own minds, and I generally do so without the adolescent use of manipulative techniques that are so common in your comments, including the above quote.
        I’ve spent 40 years studying matters economic and political. What am I supposed to do, throw out my knowledge and experience to please your Progressive sensibilities?
        And how much more rigid can one get than to promote a Political system (Progressivism) which has proven to be a failure throughout History, as you do?
        Progressivism serves Leaders well, but the rest of us pay the price. So I have to wonder — What is your stake in it, Eric? Are you benefiting at the expense of others? I can’t figure out why else you would be trying so hard to promote your illogical and empirically unsupportable belief system.

      • Nancy in Nebraska

        I think we’re all a lot closer in what we want than we think! I think that we express ourselves in different ways and each of us thinks that our way of doing it is better. Maybe discussions should start at the end with our goals and then we can work backwards. Eric, usually I read your posts and you sound like a screaming liberal. But with what you’ve posted here, I think we’re closer together than either of us thought.

      • DaveH

        Careful Nancy. Eric is a dishonest person. So there is a high likelihood that he is saying things he knows you agree with to slip in his double-speak Propaganda. I have seen nothing in Eric’s comments to indicate that he doesn’t intend to ram his choices down our collective throats if he gets the chance. The Progressives always start out with the sweet-sounding concepts like clean environments, etc., but when they get the Power we find out that their “clean environments” come at a terrible cost. As an example, when I visit my kids, I have to pass about 5 miles worth of hundreds of garish wind-generators in the Palm Springs area. At some points it looks like you’re driving right into them like some giant nightmarish food processors. And the utilities are forced to buy their Power even though it’s not economical. But they’re what the Progressives want, so we have no choice in the matter.

      • DaveH

        Eric says — “Right now there is a litany of failed privatization projects where the people are sorry they were sold a bill of goods”.
        Really? Could you perhaps provide references to support your conjecture, Eric?
        I say it’s another of your many lies.

      • DaveH

        Eric says — “Privatization is just more greed”.
        Really? In the past Eric has vehemently denied being a Socialist. Now this.
        And isn’t it funny how Progressives like Eric talk so often about Greed exhibited by business people who sell their products to voluntary purchasers, but don’t consider themselves Greedy at all when they want to grab those business peoples’ money?
        Eric is just a common thief who has great powers of rationalization.

        That is why you need to read between the lines, Nancy in Nebraska, because dishonest people like Eric aren’t going to honestly state their intentions.

      • DaveH

        Here’s another gem from Eric — “Did anyone ever think that by raising the retirement age we are actually screwing the young people who are just out of school, heavily indebted and in need of a job to pay back their loans?”.
        We are? Obviously Eric knows nothing about Economics. There are no fixed number of jobs. As long as people have desires somebody will spring forward to please those desires, unless (and this is a big one) Big Government gets in the way.
        The more people work, the more goods and services we have, thus the cheaper those goods and services become. And who cares what motivates those people who start the businesses? It could be greed. At least Eric would think so, and he thinks so because he knows his own greed. But as long as they can’t force us to buy their products (like Government will if we let them get that far) who cares what motivates them?
        Government not only costs big money (now consuming over 40% of our GDP), but they also get in the way of good people being productive, which is estimated to cost the economy over a Trillion dollars each year:
        http://www.scribd.com/doc/53100815/Wayne-Crews-10-000-Commandments-2011

      • Winddrinker

        Eric, another opinion. We don’t need more government, that is the elephant in the room!

        Government is bloated and it wastes, steals, and loses probably half the money they confiscate in taxes. Only half the population pays these taxes but the useless other half of the population are more likely to be the beneficiaries of the tax money.

        What is left of the tax money the government gives away to foreign governments, including the muslim brotherhoods and other enemies. Or, they support foreign companies and spend our taxes to create foreign jobs!

        The government has spent (given away) so much money that it had to “out-source” our space program! Now, our astronauts must hitch-a-ride with the Russians. We have too many “gimmie people” to support, so we can’t have our own space program!, There are too many regime friends in and out of this country that “need our money!”

        Then you talk about the P.O.! You shouldn’t even go there! It is a disater. I mailed a letter yesterday and it cost nearly fifty-cents! Talk about bloated expenses, lavish benefits(where did the idea come to pay people that don’t work) and total incompetence! Everytime I sent a letter “overnight” it took, literally days to arrivce.
        I always got my money refunded. Finally, I went to Fed Ex and have never used the P.O. again.. If the government is involved in any business, it becomes broken, the product/service suffers, and the costs of operation triples and quadruples! We all know that to be true! Another problem with the P.O. is that the government mandates that browned-skins are to be given priority for jobs. They are to be hired FIRST whether they are the better qualified! Government employees will have to bite the bullet, like any other employee, when the lay-offs come around…After all, the government hires three people to do the work that should be done by only ONE person.

        We don’t need government! Government needs us because they need OUR money!
        We don’t need a bloated, out of control, tyrannical government that usurps more power everyday and that wants to micro-manage our lives, take our money by “hook or crook,” be secure in our persons, and believes that we have no right to private possessions.

        Forget about trying to justify any of what this regime is doing/has done. There is no way you can convince a reasonable thinker, that has paid attention these last three plus years, that government is working “for the people.” The government thinks we MUST work for them and that is the way this regime approaches any decisions it makes.

        Back to a small, unobtrusive government that knows it place…that of servant to the people!

  • http://twistedstick.wordpress.com twistedstick

    Logging sorry obama is fool, I just did a survey that they ask 1,200 poeple all over America about the oil spill in th gulf at the end of the survey they ask if i was willing to pay one time fee of $385 that be per ever house hold in the U S to pay for inspectors on all off shore drilling, the oil company didn’t have to pay dime bacuse they had a cntract before this come up I said no because those contract were give out many years ago, at a much cheaper price do what football player redo the cotract or move on bp and all the rest. Obama his plan tax,tax, tax spend spend spend good luck leftys

  • Paul Wells

    What I truly find amusing, is that BHO himself thinks he was just smarter than anyone else, and clearly, he feels he was chosen or ordained to be POTUS clearly without understanding one bit of what the job entails. It amuses me to no end that him singing a line of an Al Green song, and his Marxist cronies just swoon. It’s no damned wonder that he thinks he is the Messiah, with all the stupid, no-brained drones just fawning all over him. And the lamestream media? Ohhhh boy, they won’t print anything bad about “their boy”. And the world looks on at us as though we’ve lost our collective minds! Throw ALL of the bums out this November!!

    • http://twitter.com/ericbischoff Eric Bischoff (@ericbischoff)

      Yes throw out the black bum and put in your white bum. I get it.

      • DaveH

        I read Paul’s comment carefully, Eric, and could see no reference to black or white. Did I miss something?

      • http://twitter.com/ericbischoff Eric Bischoff (@ericbischoff)

        Yes Dave you are missing the overall nasty tone from a bunch who are racists in denial. A bunch who more than likely voted and loved Bush and yet have a venous hate for Obama even though he is mostly following the Bush doctrine. Explain that.

      • JeffH

        Eric the Red, that’s your racist opinion…and it’s no different than all of the other racists that refuse to understand that many people just don’t like O’man’s politics.
        I’m not surprised. Keep posting your comments though…each one shows us a little more of who you really are, not what you think you are. A bit deranged comes to mind.

      • Nancy in Nebraska

        I’m not a racist! I HATE obummer! I HATE bush! You’re right, their doctrines are similar! They ALL follow the SAME agenda! They ALL (including romney) work for the SAME people(?)!!! I want someone, anyone who will represent the PEOPLE!!! THEY don’t give a damm about US!!!

      • DaveH

        So, in other words, Eric, you are just fabricating facts about what Paul said.
        How do you live with yourself?

      • Paul Wells

        Too much truth just confuses the left. They invent straw men in such cases, or castles in the mind where they like to live their comfortable, leftist fantasy worlds!

      • Winddrinker

        Eric, the biggest racist in the country, is black (supposedly) and he resides in the White House. I heard yesterday that he held a press conference and only allowed black reporters to attend!

        Race relations has never been worse, and this regime fans the flames of racism at every opportunity.. It is almost as if they are hoping for a “race war.” It all about that “hoping and changing” of America. So, when you want to talk about racists, please address the worst one in the country before anyone else.

  • http://none Greg Brede

    I will be objection, yet make a point on Prex Obummer statement, “Anyone who drives a car or truck did pay for those “roads and bridges.” As pointed out in the article above, the taxpayers and gsoline taxes paid the State municipalities to actually construct them. But what about the cars that drive on these roads and bridges, is credit given the Ford, Dodge or Chrysler for the automobile? Of the concrete and asphalt in the roads, or CAT to the heavy equipment required during construction, of the boom crane companies, teh steel mills that made the I beams, all had original founders to create a company that provide the road and bridge builders.

  • http://twitter.com/ericbischoff Eric Bischoff (@ericbischoff)

    Looks to me like some of you need to read “Free Lunch” by David Cay Johnston before you make any more uninformed stupid comments.

    Free Lunch: How the Wealthiest Americans Enrich Themselves at Government Expense and Stick You With The Bill, about hidden subsidies, rigged markets, and corporate socialism. It follows his earlier book Perfectly Legal: The Covert Campaign to Rig Our Tax System to Benefit the Super Rich—and Cheat Everybody Else, a New York Times bestseller[12] on the U.S. tax system that won the Investigative Reporters and Editors 2003 Book of the Year award.

    But then that is assuming you dumb whiteys can read!

    • DaveH

      “stupid comments”, “dumb whiteys”.
      Can you make a statement, Eric, without including adolescent manipulative techniques? Is it somehow beyond your capabilities?

      • Shelia

        lol at Eric

    • DaveH

      Here is a book that explains how certain Crony Capitalists write and benefit from various regulations and other Government protection. They exist in both political parties:
      http://www.amazon.com/The-Big-Ripoff-Business-Government/dp/0471789070

      The only way to change that cozy relationship is to get Government out of the Marketplace. Return the choices to the consumers, where they belong.

    • http://twitter.com/ericbischoff Eric Bischoff (@ericbischoff)

      Disingenuous from you Dave considering that you can never talk about the left or progressives without adding a nasty or condescending adjective to it.

      • http://twitter.com/ericbischoff Eric Bischoff (@ericbischoff)

        Dave As usual you completely ignored “Free Lunch” focusing instead on the meaningless fluff. You would fit in very well at Fox News.

        How did I know that you would completely ignore every point I raised and just attack me instead. You’re so predictable.

      • DaveH

        I am merely pointing out to people the kind of person you really are, not what you think you are.

      • DaveH

        I’ll tell you what, Eric. I will count up and list the nasty manipulative remarks that you have made, and you can count up and list mine. Okay?

    • http://N/a CintiCB

      Eric. you need to go play with your new black panther fool! You can fight each other about who ‘be’s da biggest victim’. STOP BLAMING OTHERS FOR YOUR FAILURE!!! It’s on you, babe-hope the term ‘babe’ is not a reason for you to claim racism. Don’t you, in your infinite ‘wisom’, know that all you do is lessen the great strides that your ancestors made when they REALLY WERE victims of racism? THEY WOULD BE SO INCREDIBLY ASHAMED OF YOU (and your kind)!!!!!!

    • Nancy in Nebraska

      WOW, “assuming you dumb whiteys can read”. Really??? I don’t think that any of us are advocating “crony” capitalism! We want our government to STOP favoring one business over another! We want them to STOP passing regulations that give one business an advantage over another! We want them to STOP making things more difficult for the “little guy” who just wants his piece of the pie! We want people to be able to keep what they earn and not have the government take it away and give it to somebody else! Your comments are inflammatory and racist!!!

  • http://www.facebook.com/gregbeaty Greg T Beaty

    All small business owners know how Obama thinks about small business and it is not good. We have known this since the day he got elected too. Obama, do us all a favor and go home dude (Kenya) we do not need you here. We made a mistake that day you got elected and it is now time to correct that mistake.

    • DAK

      Mitt doesn’t like samll business either. He had help too… he hasn’t made anything from scratch. His family might of, but he didn’t. Ask yourself where Mitt would be if he had started with a dollar and a dream as opposed to a million and a political dynasty handed to him. Bet he would be running for president…. (Same as what I hear about hte Kennedy’s, BTW)

      • Nadzieja Batki

        Envious that Romney came into money and then made some more and kept it.

      • DaveH

        That help was Voluntary help, DAK, from Voluntary donors.
        Why is that concept so hard for Liberals to grasp?
        If you want their money, do something for them to earn it voluntarily. Don’t steal it using Government as your Bully Boys.

    • DAK

      Nadzieja Batki says:
      July 27, 2012 at 8:58 am
      Envious that Romney came into money and then made some more and kept it.

      ———————-
      Envious? Hardly. Dismayed that idiots such as yourself can defend Mitt for doing things you’d lynch Obama for doing. However, since you know so much, what did Mitt do to earn his wealth? What will his sons do to earn theirs?

      • http://twitter.com/ericbischoff Eric Bischoff (@ericbischoff)

        I especially like the story that is just coming out that Romney went to El Salvador and met with the wealthy El Salvadorans that were funding the death squads and got them to put up the money for Bain Capital That’s precious. That’s just what we need to fix this country. A man with high principles.

      • DaveH

        DAK says — “Dismayed that idiots such as yourself can defend Mitt for doing things you’d lynch Obama for doing”.
        And you know this how, DAK?

      • DaveH

        Do you have any references to back up your claim, Eric?
        Or do you just expect us to just take the words of a man who regularly fabricates facts about people?

      • http://twitter.com/ericbischoff Eric Bischoff (@ericbischoff)

        Just Google it Dave, you can do that if you ever decide to read anything else but Mises. That tactic of denying what others say with this comment is nauseatingly overused by you.

      • DaveH

        Why would I waste my time researching fabricated facts from a proven liar, Eric?

  • Devasahayam

    Unfortunately, the cost for Bill Ayers’ protege will be rather light — as it is unlikely he will get the deserved trial for treason which he has committed since long before he was (s)elected POTUS!

    • Rasta

      The truth is you didn’t build that by yourself. Everybody has help.

  • http://httpaol.com sean murry

    Every time the SOB opens his mouth lies fly out of his mouth and he stinks draws filies.

  • Gea

    Obama lived with his Marxist Muslim stepfather,who represented oil
    industry in Indonesia, from the age 6-10. Then his mother shipped him
    back to Hawaii to his white grandparents who hired as a black role
    model and a tutor Frank Marshall Davis, a member of the Hawaiian
    Communist Party (Obama’s Communist Mentor http://www.aim.org › AIM Column).
    Davis was a mentor of young Barak Hussein from the age of 10 till he
    went to college at 18 (1979). Obama’s biological father, Barak Obama
    Sr. was also a Marxist Muslim. Therefore, the rumors that Obama is a
    socialist are well founded. Obama is a double whammy for US, with
    his loyalties both to Islam and Marxism, the corrupt ideologies of
    hate and blaming of the free enterprise system that works in
    developing countries.

    Obama getting married and belonging for 20 years in a racist
    anti-American church of Jeremiah Wright is another reason why Obama is
    very bad for America. That Mr. Wright shouted many times God DAMN
    America, while Obamas kept mum. I believed very convincing lies
    ofBarak Hussein Obama, and voted for him in 2008. Fool me once, shame
    on YOU, fool me twice, shame on ME.

    Anybody who believes in human rights and free thought cannot vote for
    this man, who is leading US toward an abyss of enslavement, as Islam
    and Communism are. Obama cavorting with the Islamists of Muslim
    Brotherhood endangers not only US soldiers but entire US and Western
    civilization which had been under attack by islamists. Obama bowing
    to Saudi king whose subjects committed 9/11 is another illustration
    where Obama’s true loyalties lie: With Islam and oppression of human
    spirit as it is in Saudi Arabie, where they behead witches and
    “blasphemers”. stone women for “adultery” (men can have 4 wives). hang
    gays, and lash women for driving or not wearing niquab.

    We do not want “honor” murder, burkhas, or female genital mutilation
    in USA, and tieing hands of our law enforcment to prevent terrorist
    attacks by home-grown Muslims, who are financed by the Saudi and
    Iranian oil. WE must go free and liberate ourselves in November and
    go green to avoid oil, which finances Islamic terrorism.

    • Larry S

      The Teflon Man, nothing sticks because it is always not his fault……..

  • Dan

    The government didn’t build all the stuff Obama talks about either. They are just the inefficient middlemen that make it cost more tax dollars. How did we let it get this bad?

  • Glen

    While it is very true that none of us is an island, that we have been helped in some way by somebody who was our teacher, mentor, or simply provided us with a job, it is equally true that nothing can happen if we wait for somebody else to help us. We may fail but that also is part of the experience that ultimately should contribute to success. Obama is focused on the government as our helper. However, those that wait on the government for help are the true cause of our decline. We must have self-starters or else we will all remain at the starting line but never crossing it.

  • s mart pants

    Brings to mind Starship’s “We Built This City ” ahhhhh no you didn’t .

  • http://www.cindynel.co.za peter

    Let’s see this another way now. Romney has in his wisdom insulted his so called friends in Britain already with his idiotic remarks about their inability to schedule the Olymoic’s correctly. Talk about diplomacy! Worse is that some people in America really see this man as an alternative to Obama! Has everyone gone insane already? Between the two of them they haven’t a clue when it comes to ‘ people skills “. If these are the best calibre of men that the USA can come up with for the Presidency then America has really got some very serious problems, beginning with arrogance control and soul searching.

    • DaveH

      The truth, Peter, is that NO man is capable of micromanaging the personal choices of millions of unique individuals. So, for every law they make in that effort there results a large portion of dissatisfied people, because one size does not fit all, and never will.
      We need to recognize that Big Government is Not the Solution. Big Government is the Problem.

      • http://twitter.com/ericbischoff Eric Bischoff (@ericbischoff)

        It’s not the President’s job to micro-manage us. His job is to provide direction and a vision and hopefully to make friends with other world leaders instead of making war.

        The reason I was not a fan of Bush is because he only cared about oil and war and he destroyed our civil liberties and left us with a giant mess and lots of debt.

        The reason I am not a fan of Oabama is because when he assembled his cabinet to fix the big giant hole Bush left us he hired all ex federal reserve, central banksters and Goldman Sachs thieves. One would hope that with a second term one would not have to worry about reelection and finally do the right things. I am not holding my breath.

        I am not a fan of this congress because they could care less about you and I. They said from day one they would do whatever it took to make Obama a one term president regardless of the consequences.

        Romney is more of the same but with a lot less intellect or empathy. Oh yeah that’s what we need.

        Ron Paul only has 2 good ideas. Get rid of the Fed and stop the wars. Anything else about him and his gang of Tea Party hypocrites really sucks. That’s why I wouldn’t vote for him either.

        The real question that should be on people’s mind, especially the ones with male teen agers, is who will lead us next and will they take us into another disastrous war with Iran. Will they let AIPAC and Israel continue to dictate foreign policies?

        If you care about these things and you should then the Green Party is the only ticket that will insure no more wars.

        But who am I kidding we are just another violent, war mongering empire. We lie covet and kill while pretending to be good christians.

      • momo

        Eric,

        I agree with some of what you said. Bush with his Patriot Act, just about doing away with the 4th amendment. Obama extending it and also signing the NDAA which does away with the 6th amendment, and of course the bill he signed limiting redress of grievences on federal property. Oh well, one step closer to totalitarianism with representation.

        • Gea

          Obam is a phoney defender of human rights. In fact by his extolling Islam and koran, and cavorting with Islamists of Muslim Brotherhood, Obama is endangering not only US soldiers and US, but entire Western civlization. He cannnot help that both his father from Kenya and his step-father from Indonesiea were Marxist Muslims which si double whammy for democracy of any sort. Obama must be retired in November before he causes more damage to freedom and human righgs in US and elsewhere.

      • DaveH

        Eric says — “It’s not the President’s job to micro-manage us”.
        No, it isn’t. But they are doing it anyway.

      • DaveH

        Eric has the temerity to call other people hypocrites.
        Eric calls people who earned their money in voluntary trade with others — Greedy Bastards. Yet Eric wants to help himself to their money.
        Eric imagines himself to be well-read. Yet Eric relies heavily on personal attacks in lieu of facts.
        Eric fancies himself a humanitarian. Yet Eric launches vicious personal attacks on those he disagrees with.
        How do you assuage your guilt, Eric? Heavy drinking?

  • G. Smith

    I am fascinated by the fact that if one side wins an election the losing side always tries to nullify it with claims that he stole it or the electorate was mesmerized by demons or on drugs. That’s why i always keep lots of popcorn handy. It’s aways such a spectacle.

  • nc

    Mr Woods, thanks for printing the words of President Obama. “If you were sucessful, somebody along the line gave you SOME help.”
    I would think that an independent or anyone not in denial or filled with hate for the speaker would say that is very true! I would also bet that every snall business person would tell you the same thing!
    This country, for some reasons, has alway been a very good country to do business in. Could it be stability of a strong military keeping the oppressors out provided by the “government”? The great network of roads provided by the “governments”? The regulations of the “government” to provide a level playing field? Could any of that and more not be of SOME help to the small business people?
    How did we get the small businesses that are our biggest employers? They didn’t just spring up like wildflowers! A situation must have existed that helped with the growth! Like the GI BILL and small business loans! All provided by the government! The GI bill is said the to be the greates return on it’s money the government has ever spent! Even the grandsons of the greatest generation are running small business starte by the grandfather’s GI Bill! SOME HELP BY THE GOVERNENT ALONG THE “LINE” ????

    • Paul Wells

      nc,
      You are another kool-aid drinker, I see. The “best” help the government can give small business is to freakin’ get out of the way! All these programs that you think are so neat, weaken free enterprise in the end. I believe in an end to ALL welfare, corporate or otherwise. There will always be people who will not work, for which there should be NO government hand outs. And yes, there will always be a small minority of people who cannot work (and I mean truly cannot work, not these freeloaders that find some doctor to conjure some injury so they can sit on their fat a$$es and draw public assistance) and they do deserve some help from the government. Unfortunately, all you drones are believing that government is the solution when they cannot balance the budget or checkbook, can’t administer a program effectively, hell they are too corrupt and stupid to even run a post office with no competition! The moment you say government is the answer is the moment you lose all credibility, and endorse the Marxist government welfare system!

      • DaveH

        And most importantly, once people figure out that Big Government is the Problem, it is usually too late to stop them. An impoverished nation is no threat to a well-armed oppressive Government. Witness Cuba. Witness North Korea.

      • http://twitter.com/ericbischoff Eric Bischoff (@ericbischoff)

        More proof that we should mind our own business. We are responsible for North Korea, and we are responsible for Cuba. But in the case of Cuba we should be ashamed of ourselves for our decades long embargo on a defenseless and innocuous nation. What did these poeple ever do to us. All they wanted was to get rid of a corrupt dictator which we just happened to support. Oh what a surprise!

      • DaveH

        So now Eric is blaming Cuba’s poverty on the US. What else? I certainly didn’t expect a Socialist to accept blame for the results of his advocated policies.

    • Nancy in Nebraska

      That’s like saying you cant go to the bathroom by yourself because someone taught you how to wipe!!!

  • http://Lurveybooks John Lurvey

    In case you had not noticed, Obama does not like white folks. Coincidently white folks are the folks that created the wealth and the jobs, etc. that Obama claims do not deserve the credit for creating something out of nothing. Obama and his spouse are nothing more than a couple of ghetto blacks that have done very well on the backs of the white citizenry. You refer to this man as a leader. The ignorant fool could not lead an ass to water. Call a spade a spade and you will do much better in life.

    • http://twitter.com/ericbischoff Eric Bischoff (@ericbischoff)

      Hell I am a white man but when I read idiots like you even I start to hate white people.

    • Samdromeda

      Even Abraham Lincoln knew that the wealth of this nation came by way of God Himself for the obedience of the patriarch Abraham for his obedience. Anyone who would usurp God in the fulfillment of His own promises opposes himself and undermines the security of the nation. Pride comes before a fall. God humbles the proud. It is God who builds civilizations and empires. It is one nation under God not one nation in place of God.

  • Doris

    This man will stoop to any low..I think Obama might have stuck his foot in his big mouth this time…

  • Sharon

    What now BO’s statement. “Our plan worked.”? That is an even bigger lie…..

    • gunner689AI

      If the plan is to destroy America I’d say it’s working just fine.

  • DAK

    Take a quarter out of your pocket. Look at one side then the other… both show different things with different words and yet they are both the same coin. The same truth could and should be said about Obama and Romney. (I’ll leave it up to you to decide who is “heads” and who is “tails”)
    NIETHER has any idea how it is to worry if you pay the light bill OR the gas bill. If you eat a balanced meal or get by on Ramen noodles and a bologna sandwich for another week. If you buy a new pair of jeans for yourself or new shoes for the kids. NEITHER of them know just what it means to worry about going to work and getting canned or getting sick and losing your house because you can’t pay hundreds of dollars for a twenty-minute ambulance ride plus the outrageous hospital bills. Both men had things handed to them on a silver platter all the while expecting the unwashed masses to blindly follow them because they “know what’s best for us” without ever walking a mile in our shoes.

    For all of those blindly following Mitt, just take a moment and listen to your own arguments. If there were a Democrat refusing to release more than a year of tax returns, you’d be up in arms. If a Democrat disrespected Britian, you’d be up in arms. Everything Mitt does and you defend, if a Democrat had done the EXACT same thing, you’d all be the first ones yelling. The reverse is true of those blindly following Obama… they are BOTH THE SAME COIN! They will both buy the same things, the both represent the same thing, the only difference is which side do you show when you pay the cashier and America’s bill is coming due soon. Well before any of us are able to pay… then what?

    • Gea

      During Truman and Eisenhower times, the top tax rate was over 90%, which discouraged greed among those who got rich. Therefore, it did not pay to be either a workaholic and the difference between the top dogs and poorest people was not as high as it is now.

      Government did some great things with the taxpayers money, but it is American people who had built America based on a free market of ideas and projects. Commnism failed became there were no checks and balances and it became corrupt where communists had all the power and money. If corporations do not have checks and balances and their top dogs can game the system (particularly CEOs and CFOs in multinational corporations), the trend of inequality will continue, until people get pissed off and start a revolution again.

      Government employees ARE public servants but the politicians of all parties are bought by those with money. Obama is no different in his real sympathies for business than Romney…Also, Obama was a kid of privilege whose grandmother, a bank official, sent him to a private school. Obama also profited from the affirmative action and so did his wife who made an enormous salary in Chicago political system. Obama pretending to be one of us is misleading, as is his statement that he defends democracy. His true sympathies are with Islam and its ideology of hate of non-Muslims. Barak Hussein Obama is dangerous to the Western civilization.

      Romney can’t do ANY worse! He needs to learn about Islam and its danger to the free world, and a danger that corporatism also presents. WE need free enterprise and incentives for people to produce stuff that we need and not inventions and useless jobs. Government rules need to be such that they level the playing field so that small business can win if they are better than those corporations which are run like small communist systems where freedom of expression is prevented from above.

    • Paul Wells

      Again DAK:
      Who is the candidate who has:
      1. Sealed all his travel records from his student days
      2. Sealed all his school records from Columbia and Harvard
      3. Filed a false birth certificate 3 full years into his term, and only then when enough people badgered him.
      4. Got a sweetheart deal from convicted felon Tony Rezko to obtain below market financing on his Chicago home.
      5. Has spent a great deal of money and effort to hide everything about his past, including his Fulbright scholarship, which incidentally, is only granted to FOREIGN (not U.S. born) students. So at a minimum, that makes him a fraud!
      6. Has no “explanation” for his Connecticut issued social security card that is actually belonged to someone else.

      Boy, a few tax returns. I guess this is transparency the Chicago way! You have some nerve, you and all your leftist idiot friends to hammer a guy for a few tax returns when the obfuscator in chief hasn’t revealed squat about himself!

      • DAK

        Okay, fine… Obama sealed his college transcripts. Are we looking for a professor to be President?
        Obama lied about his BC. Yeah right. That is pure BS and you know it. If for no other reason than if this were true, then we cannot trust our own government because I am sure someone somewhere has to verify a persons eligilibility to run for president. Where was Mitt born and where were his parents born? I haven’t seen his BC yet… why not? Nor his college grades… Why not? Is he hiding something? Maybe he was a “c” student?

        As for your other claims, if true then wouldn’t it of been better to cry and yell about those than making stuff up? Why tell the truth when a lie is so much better? Is that the GOP rule? No wonder no one listens to you chicken little types.

      • Nancy in Nebraska

        DAK, the birth certificate that he presented to the American people was PROVEN to be a forgery!!! His own lawyer admitted in a court of law that it was a forgery!!! Just because they didn’t report it in the main stream media doesn’t mean it isn’t true !! And you’re right!!! We CAN’T trust our government!!!

    • DAK

      Nancy in Nebraska says:
      July 27, 2012 at 1:29 pm
      DAK, the birth certificate that he presented to the American people was PROVEN to be a forgery!!! His own lawyer admitted in a court of law that it was a forgery!!! Just because they didn’t report it in the main stream media doesn’t mean it isn’t true !! And you’re right!!! We CAN’T trust our government!!!

      ————————————————-
      If the BC was proven to be a forgery, then some money-hungry or power-hungry lawyer would of already filed suit so I do not buy for a minute the BC was a forgery. Added to that is the fact there have been so many lies told about Obama since day one, it is now impossible to seperate the wheat from the chaff. That’s my point. Lying only gets you so far and then when a truth comes out half the people you’ve been lying to then will not believe you now. BUT voting for Romney just because he isn’t Obama is foolish in my opinion when Mitt is a KNOWN liar and hides his $$ off-shore to avoid taxes the rest of us must pay. Added to the fact he spent the Viet Nam war in France and yet is talking about going to war with Iran when his own sons are NOT IN THE MILITARY and I would bet no one Mitt even knows has family in the military. No one wants peace like a combat veteran and no one is more ready for war than those who will not have to fight.

  • Carol Williams

    from many of the comments here, most people are republicans. That’s OK. But you are slamming not only the president but blacks also. Since when did you think the use of the word Negro was positive. It was a name given to our race by slaveowners. Many Black Americans have been denied grants, scholarships and other financial support that would have helped them to get ahead and to prosper in a country that was built on the sweat of the backs and brows of our people. I feel that whoever wins this election it will be business as usual in the whitehouse. Please don’t be haters, President Obama is a well-educated, man of great integrity, and has done as good of a job as any before him.

    • Winddrinker

      Grow-up Carol! “Your people” are Americans and they have as much opportunity as any other American…otherwise, you wouldn’t have “one of your people” squatting in the oval office!

      “Your people” want to be seperate, different, they want to be deemed “something special” without doing anything to deserve it. Newsflash, NO ONE is special unless they do something to make people look up to them in some way.. “Your people” don’t get it!

      I really am sick of blacks whinning about everything! Look, if “your people” would stay in school and get an education, if they would learn to speak English, and if they would quit acting like “gangbangers,” they might actually end up with jobs and improve their lives.
      The opportunity is out there, plus a lot of other extra help mandated by governemnt.

      Answer me this, why can people from other countries come here, not knowing our culture or our language, and they can become successful. We don’t hear them complaining, they are happy for the opportunity and take advantage of the freedom they have to make a life for themselves…..

    • http://priscillaking.blogspot.com Priscilla King

      I think one comment, from someone who’s obviously new to the’Net and probably doesn’t have much of a real-world social life going by his archaic language, has distracted most of these commenters from the point of the article. Because the young Barack Obama was rescued from the slacker-stoner crowd by people who wanted to exploit his charm, looks, and talent–and who have done so–we now have a President who’s never had the experience of building a business in the way most people our age understand it. For that reason, although it’s likely that someone else wrote that disastrous speech, he was able to make it with a straight face. And yes, his having made it ticks off those of us who’ve experienced government more as a hindrance than as any sort of help to our businesses.

      I’m willing to concede that President Obama may not have meant any more harm than President Kennedy meant by claiming to be either a resident of Berlin or a Berlin-style pastry, or than President Carter meant by whatever people actually understood him to say in Poland. But in view of the fascist tendencies his administration has enabled, his mistake was more disastrous than theirs.

    • Derek Schneider

      Please do not lump all conservatives together as racist because of the ramblings of one or two commentators. Several of us have castigated these people for their ignorant and offensive diatribe. I agree that racism continues to hold our country in division…but it is racism that is spawned from all sides…from all peoples…and from all races. I agree that Obama is charismatic and well-educated. I disagree that he is a man of integrity, as he has not fulfilled any of the promises he made to gain the highest office of our country. And it isn’t even the fulfillment of these promises (liberals often cite the blocking of his policies by the Republican House, which has only had a majority since 2010) so much as it is the sheer contempt for the people who believed in his message only to find that he doesn’t stand behind or even attempt to implement the ideas and promises he ran his platform on during the 2008 election. He has shown, over and over, that he is disingenuous and dishonest, the defined OPPOSITE of integrity. It does not make me a racist to disagree with his policies…it doesn’t make anyone racist to disagree with the president’s lack of leadership just because he is bi-racial. I don’t care if he is black, white, blue or green…his policies are leading this country down a hole we may never escape from. I am not saying that the presumptive Republican candidate will do a better job, I disagreed with many of George Bush’s policies, but it is time for a change…our country will not survive another 4 years of economic incompetence and unrestrained spending.

    • DaveH

      Carol,
      I agree with Martin Luthor Kings belief that we should all be color-blind. But how can we be that, when people like you constantly remind us that we are different?

      • gunner689AI

        If you don’t want to be stereotyped don’t act stereotypical.

      • DaveH

        That made no sense at all.

    • DaveH

      Carol says — “President Obama is a well-educated, man of great integrity”.
      You lost me with that one Carol. I doubt Obama can even spell that word:
      http://www.npr.org/2012/07/13/156717291/weekly-standard-obamas-broken-promises

    • coal miner 1

      Carol Williams ,

      The word negro denotes ‘black’ in the Spanish and Portuguese speaking vocabulary, … English-language term for certain people of sub-Saharan African origin. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Negro

      • coal miner 1

        Carol,

        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nigger
        Among Anglophones, the word ni**ger was not always considered derogatory … In its stead, the term colored became the mainstream alternative to negro. Please read.

      • coal miner 1

        These are orgin of words,not meant to be bigoted.

    • http://N/a CintiCB

      The word negro is from the word Negroid-”a member of the Negroid ethnic division of the human species, especially one of various peoples of central and southern Africa”. This is from The American Heritage Dictionary. Look it up. Nowhere does it say that it’s just another word to give blacks a reason to be offended so they can whine some more!

      • coal miner 1

        CintiCB,
        You are right,another example of political correctness.

    • Nancy in Nebraska

      Carol, the person who used the word “negro” IS a negro!!! And slaveholders didn’t give them that name! The word means “black”! The slaveholders called them the other n word!

    • http://www.facebook.com/katharine.kimball Katharine Kimball

      Carol, If President Obama has done such a great job, why is the country in such a mess? And please don’t blame it on Bush! I’m sick of hearing that excuse. He had a democratic majority in both the House and the Senate until 2010.

  • Norm

    If your business is in the US you have:
    Police protection
    Fire protection with fire departments and water supply systems
    Water service
    Sewer service
    Paved streets and bridges
    Tax incentives on all levels
    Talented, educated workers
    Private and public financing
    Public training programs
    Public transportation
    An enormous military to save you from internal and external threats
    Cash customers some of whom are on Social Sec., unemployment comp, and govt. programs
    Freedom to do as you please
    No man is an island.

    • DaveH

      Did we have a choice in those, Norm?
      I would choose to buy my protection from private companies who I can fire if I don’t like their services, rather than from Government where I can like it or lump it.

    • Nancy in Nebraska

      I have all those benefits too, and I PAY for them! Don’t you?

  • RUSerious

    The only BIG LIE here is that Obama never actually said the words RoMoney and the elite 1% claim. I realize there are plenty of suckers living in a bubble, to whom facts and the truth are irrelevant, but just go back and fact check it and stop propaganda based on lies, you don’t further your cause, you just look like idiots.

    • Winddrinker

      RU serious, that is just like a lib. Libs won’t believe what they actually hear or see on video, Nothing like living in an “imaginary world” where you don’t have to believe in “reality.” It is just stupidity to deny words that were actually spoken in a clear and concise manner.

      I know libs “wish it would go away” but it won’t, we all heard it. “Wishing” won’t make those words of obumscum, disappear..

    • http://N/a CintiCB

      RU, you need to run for president. You are as delusional and stupid as O’butthole!!
      It’s on tape-he said what he said! Of course, he can just ‘smooth talk’/manipulate his way ‘out of it’ when he has a bunch of empty headed groupies who will ‘fall for it’. OMG, you are blindly led!!! Ask yourself this question-’would I be SOOOOOOOOO stupid if he ain’t be’s a homie’? I can answer for you-’I wouldn’t even be paying attention, wouldn’t even have voted for such a lying, manipulative, + delusional @ss.’

    • Nancy in Nebraska

      Are YOU serious?!???? You have to have been living in a cave not to have heard it!!!!! NOBODY is lying! He said it! He meant it! And if you don’t take him seriously YOU will lose everything!!!

  • Sally Jo

    Oh yes I did Mr. president. I built my own cleaning business by my own shoe leather! It was not something someone started for me.

    • Norm

      Good for you Sally Jo! I trust you pay your employees decently and pay your fair share of taxes. That’s all that’s required.

    • Dan Taylor

      Sally Jo, having started in “shoe string” business in 1939 and having created dozens of startups [Yes, often three and four small town retail and service businesses at one time) -- and "salvaging" by reorganizing and remarketing numerous businesses in several fields, I never forgot the reality.
      Small town newspapers could not have existed without SPECIAL POSTAL SUBSIDIES and RURAL FREE DELIVERY, federal land swap subsidized railroads, public streets and roads, publicly subsidized telephone systems, wood pulp newsprint produced from public forest trees, city and county public records and vital statistics [births, deaths, weddings, divorces, arrests, criminal complaints, convictions, civil suit verdicts and decisions-- all provided local newspapers without charge].
      With that massive public assistance, I produced SUPERIOR, MULTIPLE AWARD WINNING community newspapers.
      Every merchant in every community profited from the fact “their newspaper:” could be produced and distributed with all the public support.
      In addition to the public help, with every community newspaper there were neighborhood and rural hamlet correspondents. In one Nebraska daily location, I personally worked with more than 190 unpaid “community correspondents” in 17 counties in three states — driving more than 5,000 miles monthly on PUBLIC ROADS.
      Your dry cleaning business required brains, incredible dedication and energy, blood-sweat-tears, AND ACCESS TO PUBLIC ROADS AND STREETS, SIDEWALKS and communications. You benefited from publicly supported safety inspections, purity control for you chemicals and publicly required Fabric Labels — so YOU would KNOW how to handle each garment. [Ever treated a pure linen skirt as if it were cellulose? How about mistaking synthetic suede for genuine suede? Nubby rayon for wool?]
      Walk past the nearest 100 businesses in your community. Not one achieved success ONLY by strength of the proprietor’s character, skills, business acumen and sweat.
      Everyone of those businessmen and women had help — from an elementary teacher who taught basic, solid math, English and guided analytical thought process formation. There was a high school commercial studies teacher who devoted extra time (away from their famiily) for every promising teacher.
      This what Mitt Romney told the Olympic athletes in Salt Lake City. Almost thought-for-thought what President Obama ACTUALLY SAID about those of us who start, build or reorganize businesses.
      I will remember as long as I can remember, the ranch manager neighbor of my childhood who took a five-year-old in tow and taught him the livestock industry from manure spreader to market. My country school teacher who educated every student. Seven special high school teachers. About a dozen particular university teachers, including several in “breadth subjects” — totally out of my major studies.
      Even above those, my hometown newspaper publisher, who gave a high school freshman a chance to sweep floors from 11 a.m. until 1 p.m. daily — at 10 Cents per hour.
      During the next four years he taught me the business in all aspects. To him I owed the ability to produce a quality community newspaper and recognize other business opportunity within the community.
      You had help creating and building your business — as does every small and large business person. Someone taught you the technical aspects of the business. Someone taught you to operate every machine in the plant. Someone created the street system bringing your customers to you.
      Does that make you weak? —-NO!!
      It is the way business functions in every nation and every society despite every religion and most governments.

  • RozLynn Downer

    I only look at this sight about once a week, and read all the arguments back and forth. How many of you can see that Obama and his fan club are accomplishing their purpose! Divide and conquer. This issue of “you didn’t build it yourself” is just more class warfare. I built my business myself; I am sure of that no matter what anyone says; Obama or anyone else. However, it’s just a distraction; either you believe you built it yourself; or you don’t. Move off of this and concentate on the truth; what do you really want in November? Are you better off than you were 4 years ago? Almost 1/2 of Americans are now dependent on Government for survival? Is that what you really want whether you are one of that 1/2, or one of the paying 1/2 and soon to be dependent, as we all will be if this continues another 4 years. If Obama’s life history is studied, it is clear what his intentions are. We are rapidly moving to 3rd world status; we will be there in 4 more years. Canada now has more personal wealth than we do; as most of you probably know; we have lost 40% of our wealth in the last 4 years. And yes, Bush and those before him for many years started it, not just Obama. Most politicans are there for their own careers and wealth; doing deals back and forth. They are corrupt. You can check their voting records out anytime on the internet. By the way, I think the internet is our salvation if we want it to be because we can now know the truth. What do you want; A free Republic or at the very least; a Socialist state? As I said before, Romney is not my choice; but at least he is not a Socialist or Communist; nor does he have the Muslim Brotherhood surrounding him. We have to take baby steps if we want to survive as a Republic, vote Obama and all those Big Government liars and thieves out; lets vet them honestly and completely. It doesn’t matter which party they are in; most of them have forgotten the vision of the Founding Fathers if they ever knew it. Take back America; the Land of the Free and the Home of the Brave. Our ancestors; recent and back to the Revolutionary War have died in vain otherwise. Quit fighting, unite for the good of America. We are the last hope of the world for freedom; make your choice and stand for it! Or let it die, you choose. Evidently some of you like what is happening; if that’s the majority, or if Freedom Loving People won’t stand up, then God help us, and we deserve what we get.

  • http://yahoo Larry

    I like it when the obama kool aid drinkers say what you heard obama say, he really didn’t say, then commence to tell you what he really meant. He spoke it in plain english, I don’t need a translator to explain plain everyday english.

  • Star Mann

    You people are beyond any hope of redemption! It’s has only been a few years since the Republican administration of Bush, Cheney, et al, nearly brought this nation to it’s knees and now you want another dose of it? You are all incredibly stupid!!!!!!!!!

    • Derek Schneider

      Our country is ON it’s knees now that Obama has had four years in office.
      Easy enough to blame Bush, but what positive effect has Obama’s term in office had on any of our national policy? Name one thing he has done to better this country?
      It may have been driving in this direction under Bush…but Obama got in office and put his foot on the gas after cutting the brakelines. He is not the man for the job. Plain and simple. Romney may not be either…but I would rather see someone else give it a try than see it come completely off the rails under Obama’s continued leadership.

    • Paul Wells

      Star,
      Idiots that live in glass houses definitely should not throw rocks! Talk about stupid!

    • Jefferson Thomas

      Who are “you people”? I am always amused by the old “it’s either democrat or republican” mind set presented by the media from the manipulators that people buy into (two sides of the same fascist coin). It is as if they experience a mind hiccup that won’t go away when one presents another alternative to their false dichotomy.

      Ever consider that there are persons who despise Bush and Obama? Ever consider that when elections are held there are persons who have voted NO on EVERY tax measure? NO on any measure that increased government power or oversight that was presented and then they voted for a Libertarian or Independent?

      It has now come to the tipping point. Will the political leech class and their sycophants grow larger than their productive hosts in the honest working and business class who produce something of value? The huge leech on our backs feeding off of us is now almost as big as the host. If it can no longer feed to its satisfaction it self destructs, destroying its self and the host.

  • Dan Taylor

    Having started as an original CONSERVATIVE Southern Republican in the 1940s and actively working in GOP election campaigns, managing several county, district and state ROP campaigns through 1964 — I don’t accept the credentials of the lying, corrupt, racist DixieCrats who bolted the historically SOLID SOUTH DEMOCRATIC party, well known for their filibustering tactics in the U.S. Congress.
    During t he Salt Lake City Olympics — as a former Utah publisher and active in business in the BeeHive State through 1993 — I watched and heard Willard “Mitt” Romney deliver his official speech to the Winter Olympics’ athletes.
    Romney’s speech was essentially WORD FOR WORD in the Olympic athletes’ context, the same as President Obama delivered this year –
    and which YOU, Bob Livingston and Chip “Off The Old Blockhead” Wood have totally misquoted, taking DEPENDENT PHRASES and DEPENDENT CLAUSES our of contest to create a LYING attack on that black man you and your followers HATE FOR HIS RACE.
    Mostly you ‘Bama racists hate that the President is of white and black ancestry.
    Mrs. Obama has recently been exposed as being of mixed race descent. Only with the son of an ancestral woman’s small plantation owner and the young black female slave who was forced to submit and bear the lustful white man’s child.
    Good old Male Southern RedNeck tradition — “Go down to Coontown and get a little poontang.”
    Don’t bother denying your “editorial” lying or the racism of your “followers.”
    The letters already appearing in this response column clearly define you and your standard readers as absolute racists.
    [By the way, my polluted Southern roots include President Zachary Taylor and direct family tree lineage including West Point Graduates Lt. Robert E. Lee and Lt. Jefferson Davis, both in Taylor's "Little Army" which launched the Mexican American war, captured and held Monterey and soundly defeated Santa Ana at the Battle of Buena Vista.
    Less than 4,000 in Taylor's command, "whupping up" on 23,000 battle hardened Mexican regulars. In addition to General Lee and President Davis, my ancestors included a number of men who wore officer's and enlisted men's Grey and rags in the War Between the States.]

    • MAP

      Mr. Taylor, the South bolted the Democratic Party because it had been taken over by extreme, fanatical leftists, the same class of weirdoes that dominates it today. The death of the old Democratic Party was the death of a real conservative party in this country. It’s too bad the Dixiecrat attempt failed. Our hopes of limited government died with it. Now both parties are leftist, statist, and worthless.

    • http://N/a CintiCB

      Dan, The reason many disapprove of your prez. has NOTHING to do with his race. YOU are the one with a racist problem!! I, along with MANY whites, truly hoped that he would succeed as no other ever had. We, like you, are totally disgusted with racism. If a black president had actually helped our country, we could put the dumb@ss racists ‘in their place’-showing them what fools they REALLY were/are!

    • MAP

      Mr. Taylor you obviously hate your heritage and history. This hate is a trait of the delusional Left. During the era that the South fled the Democratic Party, the black writer Zora Neale Hurston wrote a scathing letter to the Orlando Sentinel, warning them that communists has infiltrated the country and were behind the civil rights uprising. This is exactly the stance of the South. Her entire letter is valuable:

      http://teachingamericanhistory.org/library/index.asp?document=643

      Also at the time Joe McCarthy was warning the same:
      http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/140008105X/ref=ox_sc_act_title_2?ie=UTF8&smid=AUP2NQ3M81KLJ

      Your entire post is suspect.

  • boyscout

    Chip, race issues aside, what an inane and picky argument you propose. Playing with the semantics in a politician’s statements is a sure fire way to p*ss off half the people who are engaged in the concern and most of the people who are only marginally aware (most of the people.) And most of the people still confuse corporatist monopolies with struggling small businesses because of such semantic double speak.
    If you really want to influence the up coming election, make your distinctions clear for the majority. I would suggest the same for Mittens who might at this stage easily attain his goal if the electorate were limited to middle aged white Skull and Bones alumni.

  • jed klampit

    i know if he is or is not re-elected the last 3-4 weeks he will be signing presidential
    pardons like he is handing out trick-or- treats at halloween time
    in the clinton era the cost was 25,000.00 per pardon
    i guess balatovich will be first in line then all the panthers doing hard time will get
    their free pass talk about the black night arising i guess the best you can do is
    dig deep and stay low….cause there will be a holelotsa shakin

  • http://aol malcoolmX

    A MILLION VOTES killed by the jawbone of an a666; he will have to get hugo chavez to send a million wet backs up here and pronto.

  • http://www.PicklingTheBeast.blogspot.com pj Connolly

    Comment guidelines say, “…we will not tolerate racism, profanity or slanderous comments toward the author(s) or comment participants…” yet all I see are racist, profanity-laced slanders about the President of the United States of America, Barack Hussein Obama. What’s the deal with that?

    • http://aol malcoolmX

      wah wah wah;; you cry like your messiah;; grow up;; obimbo is the biggest racist since WALter MADDOX

    • uvuvuv

      how many loving terms of endearment do you recall using about george bush?

    • Nancy in Nebraska

      I haven’t said anything racist! But he is evil personified! I will NEVER call him my president! He is in the seat of the presidency ILLEGALLY! He HATES America! He IS a TRAITOR!!! He should be impeached!!! He is a representative of satan! The time is short! Soon everybody will know this!!! I hope you’re ready!

  • Chris P

    HE didn’t say that – It’s called quote mining. That phrase was part of a previous sentence.

    The gullible right wing clowns suck up this blatant and outright lie. The Christian Right are downright dishonest

    • Nancy in Nebraska

      Uuuuuhhhh, I listened to the WHOLE speech! He DID say it!!! It wasn’t taken out of context! Don’t you love it when liberals try to convince you that they didn’t say what you HEARD them say!!! If you tell a LIE often enough it DOESN’T become the truth!!! You MIGHT be FOOL enough to believe this garbage but I’M NOT!!!

  • uvuvuv

    to clear this up for mr obama, those roads and bridges were built by private companies. i never ever saw a truck with the sign, us govt road building group. and he should try, try, to keep in mind that as the colonists arrived here there were no roads and bridges period, so what did they do, just sit around and wait for the govt to build them before they started their farms and businesses? also, let’s look at dos, the origin of today’s windows. how many roads and bridges were required to write those lines of programming? mr. obama is denying that there are businesses that have intellectual property only, where massive infrastructure isn’t necessarily needed. ah, the internet. well, all private investment. remember when they converted from copper to fiber optic? does obama think the govt paid for that? if that was a govt project we would still be using bakelite phones.

  • B rian

    What irks me…. This is a totally spun statement…. Not to say Obama doesn’t believe in his heart that small business means nothing to America. He can’t understand anything other than large corporations because they kinda work socialisticly…. Grunts, team leaders, supervisors, middle management, upper management, executives…. In this order. Small business doenst fit the socialistic nature of his understanding!

    Go after him for what he has done! Violations of the constitution that he is sworn to protect! Example…. Seizing communications….. July 6, 2012…. Signed an executive order giving himself the ability to seize all forms of communication in the united states in the event of a crisis! Nobody has challenged this! It is blatantly a violation of the constitution in I don’t know how many ways! There is no spin needed….. And I violates the very fundamentals that every American uses daily!

    In the event of say a political crisis as seen say…. In Syria….. He’s taking away the ability for communication of the people to organize effeciently against him. He states that the govt, in the time of crisis, needs to be able to communicate all other forms of govt, from local to state to international….. Yet the public won’t be able to communicate with each other…. Essentially…… The employee (the president) has taken control of the entire business…. And their is nothing the managers (american people) can do about it. It takes away the ability of the people to gather and protest to get back what was taken from them. The power he was given to represent us!

    So stop looking for snippets of spun stories…. And start harping on major violations….. Before you lose the ability to even comment on this comment page! Because yes…… The Internet is specifically named in his executive order… Don’t believe me!? Look it up!

  • Pathfinder

    Obamas “You didn’t build it” comment frames his ideology on his Tax and spend (wealth redistribution) ideology. In his twisted socialistic mind Government and taxes allow prosperity. Therefore, TAXES and BIG GOVERNMENT ARE GOOD. To Obama, “nobody earned nothin’ and the government shall give (and taketh). You are no longer citizens but “financial slaves” to the Federal Government. If you like Obama’s policies, your gonna love serfdom.

    • B rian

      If you had to put Obama on trial for his statement that was spun…. It would get thrown out…. Based on the evidence…. If he had to go on trial to defend his communications seizing…. He’d hypothetically be convicted of violating….. Freedom of speech, freedom of press, using executive orders to step around due process and proper vetting processes….. He just pulled a dictators move!

  • Peter Jurrius

    Hello, my background is hard work from the bottom, well educated, Stanford and Johns Hopkins Universities and a truly self made person, thanks to the upbringing mrthodsof my parents who had nothing and blossomed into extremely succesful people though hard work.
    Obama and his cronies are set to rig another election as the did with Acorn posting millions of illegal ballots. This time it is Holder in charge and responsible for the outcome. Wake up people, anybody but Obama is better for our country. Yes Mit Romney is a regular person
    and is a succesful business man. We need someone who has experience in building our
    cpountry back up and he is the best bet for our future and your children’s. So lay off the
    poppycock and get with it. Vote for Mit!

    • Nancy in Nebraska

      You had me until you came to romney! He’s no different! BOTH candidates are owned and controlled by the “elite”. “They” are not going to let you have a candidate that they don’t control! The agenda is to destroy this great country because they can’t control us until they have done that! The time is short! It happens with romney OR obummer! Even if you don’t think it will happen, you’d better get prepared because if I’m right our biggest nightmare is right around the corner. And your family’s lives depend upon it! If I’m wrong, you’ve lost nothing! As the Boy Scouts say, “Be Prepared”!

    • Karolyn

      For someone with such prestigious credentials, your grammar and spelling certainly aren’t very good. I guess that’s because you usually have someone else to do that for you?

  • David169

    I think Nero’s statement, “that we have allowed you to thrive” is equally as offensive as “you didn’t build that”. It infers the federal government can and is controlling eveything and everyone, and the small business owner who risked everything to build his or her business was “allowed” to do so by the federal government.
    This has to be one of the stupidest statements ever made. The federal government is the biggest worthless boodoggle ever created. Since the end of Eisenhower’s presidency the goal of the fed has been to crush private industry.

  • jed klampit

    mit all the way !!!!and the spin from europe about his stating is london really ready
    for the olpmpics???
    it seems it was only one year or so ago when the royal entorage was egged by
    one of there own and there are people there who dont want the royalty
    so there is a question if the brits can handle there own affairs or will there
    be more egg on there faces????
    how soon people forget,,,not to mention they screen there local and international
    news like our government here does so maybe there will be some eggs thrown
    before the torch is over….lay off mit
    concentrate on the important issues and stand up for the right

  • Peter Jurrius

    Hello, my background is degrees from Johns Hopkinsd and Stanford and a self made person. I was taught from the bottomup to design, study, prepare and build my business
    by my Father who built the largest oil refirnery in the world from scratch and was commended by General Eisenhower. I never received an allowance and had to earn
    every penny I had to spend by building my won little business and learning how to do
    things right including the main core for doing business and that is being honest and hard
    work, with respect of the people who are also involved. That Obama was dishonestly elected through the shenannigans of ACORN still sticks in my craw! He is going to have
    Holder in charge of counting the ballots come this election. That ought to tell you a lot!!!
    There couldn’t be a more dishonest person do it, especially coming from the Chicago’s
    Dishonest and disrepubable political regime. Wake up, your future is at stake. This is no
    ordinary election,. the survival of the American Way is at stake. Vote for Mit Romney, and
    do your children a favor by preserving the American way as our forefathers intendewd it
    to be. God bless America, lests keep it the way our forefathers built it to be. Thank you! .

    • Amused.

      Who built Stanford? Who built Johns Hopkins? In 2010, JHU got $1.6B in federal research grants…ranked #1. Stanford averages between $400,000,000 and $500,000,000 per year in federal research grants. Just those two institutions–and they are GREAT ones–benefit from over $2B in federal help annually.

      As for ACORN, which is now out of business, see http://www.factcheck.org/2008/10/acorn-accusations/

      You did build your business, and that you respect your employees and your customers is excellent and honorable.

      But do you also appreciate the benefits our government provides?

      Do you ship on our roads? Do you use our airports? Do you rely on our laws? Our courts to enforce your contracts? The Uniform Commercial Code? Do you use our currency? Are their MiG’s in the sky over your business (aka Vladimir Putin’s head sticking up over the horizon), or do you count on the government for that, as well?

      • B rian

        not that I dissagree with what your saying….. But the govt funded those roads, bridges, and such with our money….. So technically….. All they did was manage the project….. The boss are the people and the employee is the govt. And right now the employee is taking credit for what the boss has funded. The government is a representation of the will of the people…. Power given by the people…. Right now the government is taking the power from people….. You are the boss…. I am the boss…. They represent us! And they are not representing anyone but themselves right now….

  • Amused.

    It turns out that Edison did NOT invent the light bulb:

    From Wikpedia: Building on the contributions of other developers over the previous three quarters of a century, Edison made improvements to the idea of incandescent light, and entered the public consciousness as “the inventor” of the lightbulb, and a prime mover in developing the necessary infrastructure for electric power….

    And Henry Ford did NOT invent the Auto Industry; he built on mass production and vertical integration, but his lasting legacy was his invention of the middle class through his $5/day wage. http://corporate.ford.com/news-center/press-releases-detail/677-5-dollar-a-day

    His success both gave birth to and benefited from The Federal Aid Road Act of 1916 and the Federal Aid Highway Act of 1921. Yes, he built the Model T. He also built a huge, efficient factory. The roads were a key piece of the success of the auto industry, and “he didn’t build those.”

    Steve Jobs? Bill Gates? Where were they without transistors, integrated circuits, and computers? To complete the 1890′s census in under 10 years, the US Govt gave a contract to the Hollerith company, which later became IBM. Among the earliest computers: Colossus, used by the UK govt in WWII. The transistor grew out of Bell Labs’ efforts to support the war effort and improve radar. Early semiconductors/integrated circuits were built at huge expense so that NASA’s computers would work in space.

    No transistors? No IC’s? No semiconductors? No Jobs, no Gates.

    And the Internet? GPS? Google DARPA…

    If you think that Edison and Ford and Jobs and Gates did it by themselves, take away the roads, the research, the internet, the transistors, the patent systems, etc….ask them, they’ll admit that “they didn’t build that.”

    • B rian

      how did he govt fund these infrastructures you are refering to? Small businesses started…. Someone took a huge risk and put their livelyhoods on the line. Hired employees….. And everybody worked hard…. The business became sucessfull and they hired more employees…. The small business became a very large one…. And every employee/boss and the business itself paid taxes! Those taxes went into the infrastructure you are refering too….. The government did not reach into their own pockets and pull money out keeping it completely seperate from the tax payers supply and build these infrastructures independently of the taxpayer!

      In comparison…. If the government wants to take credit for the success of small business then they also need to take. Redit for the failure of small business as well! Over regulating industries, putting extra stress on the ability of the small business owner with unemployment insurances, cost in general! If they want credit…. They need to take all the credit! And the economy is crap right now! “private industry is doing just fine”. Obama made this statement! And then retracted it later! There is no spin on this event! This is what happened.

      • Amused.

        Context seems to be a problem. By contrast to the declines in public employment due to declining tax revenues, yes, the private sector–with job growth and high profits and rising stock prices–is doing fine. Read the whole statement. While you’re at it, google the phrase, “Corporations are people too, my friend.”

  • Gayle Mireles

    i work in one of those small businesses. We can no longer afford to hire outside employees. We have used credit and all means available to us to stay in business. I believe that taking the president’s words out of context is dirty pool. That’s politics. As a retired Texas teacher my husband and one of my children are on my health insurance. We certainly could not afford health insurance otherwise. I believe that the Affordable Care Act is needed. I also believe that President Obama is our country’s best bet on restoring the middle class. Romney’s trickle down theory has been tried and it didn’t work. The big companies and banks are just greedy and want to keep all monies for themselves instead of investing in America. The Republicans want to obstruct our president at every of working to make our country better. I would also like to see religion taken out of politics. I was born and raised Catholic, but I believe in a woman’s right to choose abortion or birth control. I believe in the theory of evolution and climate change. If you want to teach Creationism, let your church do that. Don’t put it in the school textbooks.

  • petroleumengineer

    I was an independent businessman for over 50 years. Now I am an 89 year old semi-retired geologist/petroleum engineer. I heard every word this idiot socialist uttered. It was no gaff – he beliefves it. His handlers made a terrible mistake by allowing him to speak without his teleprompter. There may be a few successful oilmenstarted with outside donations or family money. Almost all started from ZERO. Most started as oil company employees, then progressed to consulting, then ot outright operators. Here are a few that were friends iof mine – E. DeGolyer world renowned geologist – founded Amerada Petroleum, Geo. Mitchell explored and developed Barnet oil/gas field, John Jackson – brought Geo. Mitchell into the Barnet shale play. Each of them came from very humble beginnings – worked their way through college, took high risks, built companies. I had to work my way through college, trained for 7 years with oil companies after service WWII, went on my own as consultant, then oil operator. Obama said exactly what he believes – he was not misqouted, nor was his message taken out of context.
    Re-elect him and kiss our American free enterprise system GOODBYE!

    • Amused.

      Oil Depletion Allowance: Your industry takes $2.4B per year in tax credits. WE THE PEOPLE, in addition to paying record profits to your industry, make up the difference.

      If that isn’t government welfare for those who need it least, I don’t know what is.

  • oldkoreanwarvet

    Mr Obama, Yes we did build our infrastructure as well as the GOVERNMENT that you reign over.

    Without commerce and business, hard working people hunting, gathering, growing crops, raising food, inventing products, finding ways to sell those products from day one financing your government without the people’s ingenuity, and our money, there would be no government.

    Though out history it has always been the peoples money that financed governments in turn all that government has now, taken credit for all that the people have done over the years.

    I have been around a long time and have “NEVER” seen any president that is intent on dividing our great country as this one has.

    Government is good in it’s place, but it’s place is not to dictate to, and take full credit from those that have financially supported it from the offset.

    No man is an island or a king in this country Mr. president!

    • Amused.

      So you agree that government creates value. No one is disputing that people finance government, although you can make an argument pretty easily that corporations have paid less and less over the last 25 years while complaining more and more. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/03/02/corporate-tax-revenues-ne_n_830361.html

      As far as dividing people, please explain this quote from the Senate Minority Leader: ““The single most important thing we want to achieve is for President Obama to be a one-term president.” ~Mitch McConnell, Senate Minority Leader, (R-Ky.), October 2010

      In other words, screw the country. Screw the people. Screw the economy. That’s your GOP today. If you want to end the current culture, I say, screw the GOP back.

      • Pathfinder

        Amused; Mc Connel is correct, dumping OBAMA is the best thing we can do for America.
        Obamas policies are stifling small businesses, The affordable care act is the biggest scam ever perpetrated in Americans. In Obamas mind If you have a job you are rich. He taxes the wealthy telling the middle class “they need to pay their fair share” Yet 50% of Americans pay nothing, Where is their fair share? Make no mistake Obama is hell bent on achieving want Osama in Laded failed to do with 911 …. the financial destruction of America. I guarantee you will not be Amused when you wake up one day and feel “Obamas Pain”.

  • terris

    I don’t know about taking President Obama’s words out of context, but it’s pretty clear that he left out one word – alone. Nobody has succeeded by themselves. Attempting.to make that a case against President Obama is pretty weak. Not to mention it being pretty petty.

    • SJJolly

      Terris: You’ve got that right! The “swollow camels and strain at gnats” crowd is trying to make a mountain out of an omitted word or two.

      Perhaps the greatest producer of all times, Henry Ford, mobilized the social assets of his time to build an automobile manufacting empire. Had he had to do it all alone — cutting down trees to make lumber, digging up iron ore, coal, and limestone to make steel, etc., etc. — he would have been luck to produce some skateboards, maybe a bicycle. The same with other great producers, such as Walt Disney and Steve Jobs.

      • Nadzieja Batki

        It appears that you are the one who is trying to sanitize O’s words.

        • http://harleyspoon.wordpress.com harleyspoon

          What has he done but fight an uphill battle in the congress…and, Jay, you fool, anything Obama passed had the help of Republicans since–as you ought to know, but you are probably are too damned dumb to know,–there is a thing called “filibuster” in the Senate…and the Repubs have had, since the very beginning of Obama’s administration, you fool, the numbers it took to filibuster and the Dems did not have the numbers it took to invoke cloture. Do you even know what “cloture” is, fool?? Kennedy and Byrd were sick, dying, absent and died…Kennedy was replaced by a Republican and Byrd was replaced by a very conservative Democrat…and then there was Franken whose election was not certified for months by Pawlenty (Minnesota)…and then there was Nelson (Nebraska), Landrieu (Louisiana) who was fighting for her political life in Louisiana…and then there were the Arkansas Senators–Lincoln and Pryor–who voted with the Repubs much of the time..I mean, don’t you know that it takes 60 votes to invoke cloture, fool??? Pull your tongue out of the Koch Bros anal orifices and get with the program…Now, tell me what Obama has done to hurt business! And back it up with more than your foolish opinion…How about some documentation…..In his time as Prez,, he has cut taxes so that they are the lowest effective rates in 60 years..He has cut taxes on small business and the working poor and middle class…If you have a problem with what government has done or not done…take a look at McConnell and Boehner and the Teapublicans, you reactionary right wing nitwit!! Two can play that name-calling game…I am an old Master Sergeant’s son and an old Marine myself…I know how to play that stupid game, fool!! I can do it a lot better than you but they’d kick me out of this mess…so I won’t go much farther…

      • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing Jay

        harleyspoon, you’re a half-wit, which is not necessarily a bad thing. However, to be completely unaware of the fact that you’re a tool, is no laughing matter. The fact is, obama is a tool of the corporate-elite, and because you support obama, makes you, a corporite-elite-tool, as well! So you can cease and desist from your idiotic display of affection for obama. We get it, you’re a tool!

        • macgyver1948

          SSJolly… An omitted “word or two” can change the entire meaning. It can cause misleading facts about a thing to go out and that was the intention of this article- to misinform and mislead. That is why they teach us language skills in school, hopefully to get it right, but in the hands of evil the wording can make it lean toward the evil, you know, as in hate.

      • DaveH

        MacGyver says — “SSJolly… An omitted “word or two” can change the entire meaning”.
        Feel Free, Mac, to provide us a referential link so we can see what Obama “really said”.

  • http://comcast The fisherman

    The hold buch of you sound like redneck pickers Where did your schooling come from K K K university You are the ones that your family put to the side of the closet

  • Uncle Sam

    I’d like to tell the fake (expletive deleted) pres that he doesn’t belong here and to get the (expletive deleted) out of our finances. WE built this great country and this Communist born and raised fool is really trying to institute his (expletive deleted) Fascist agenda upon us. Go to (expletive deleted) Washington! All of you are against the American Citizens in some way or another so you can have your New World Order, Satan Worshiping society of the future. Just like Hitler who tried to create a perfect race of blond/blue-eyed people and kill off the dark haired/darker skinned people to the tune of 6 million and probably millions more. We are sick of you Obombya, Hitlery, Feinstein, Reid, Polosi and strap on Janet and Pistole. You are the most sickenening group of insane SOBs on the EARTH!. We will fight you to the end of time!

    • Ron r

      Uncle Sam, you and others like you (Rech wing) seem to know a little too much about Hitler. Are you sure you are American???????????????

      • macgyver1948

        Ron r… You responded to Uncle Sam(?) with “Uncle Sam, you and others like you (Rech wing) seem to know a little too much about Hitler. Are you sure you are American???????????????”.

        I like your response but I would like to add. I wish they would make up their minds with this “communist” or “Fascist” crapola. Fascist are very far right conservative and communism is very far left and Obama is in the middle with Capitalism. It seems real history eludes those who will ignore it because they only take the word of their handlers. That must be easier than wanting to know the truth.

      • DaveH

        We haven’t had Capitalism in this country for at least a hundred years, and that sure isn’t going to change under Obama.
        For those who want to understand real Capitalism:
        http://mises.org/books/capitalism_kelly.pdf

  • Jeremy Leochner

    President Obama did make a gaffe by using the word that instead of those. However that does not change the context of his statement or his speech. He was saying “if you’ve been successful, you didn’t get there on your own”. He was not saying if you have a business you didn’t build that. He was saying that “If you have a business, you did not build that alone. The president made a gaffe. But his words and what he said are what they are. Its not apologizing for him. Its the truth. Mr. Romney and other pundits who have declared this gaffe to be evidence of President Obama’s supposed hatred of free enterprise and business are doing so based on a willful misinterpretation of what he said. With all due respect Mr. Wood you used an excerpt from Obama’s speech that makes it clear what he was actually saying and yet you are trying to say that he is attacking business and suggesting that business owners cannot take credit for their accomplishments. With all due respect I believe you are going against the evidence in your own article.

  • Joe the Rag Man

    No, the message the President was trying to convey seems pretty clear to me: Yes if you pay attention to one statement and not the ‘idea’ of the entire speech. Both Romney and Obama have said basically the same thing – no man is an island – and everyone receives some help along the way of life – be it your parents, a teacher, a mentor or what ever. Yes some people succeed at building a business and a lot of their own effort is involved in its success, But no one succeeds without some ‘help’ along the way either mental, spiritual or physical. That doesn’t mean the Government did it, only that many different things went into its success.

    Anything can mean anything with the right ‘Spin’ or when taken out of context.

  • http://Comcast The fisherman

    Sounds like Skin Heads or maybe Red Neck Picker Woods that have the education of K K K

    • B rian

      yeah…. We get it! Everybody other than you is uneducated, racist, bigots…… You haven’t heard any facts come out of this whole discussion….. Anybody that opposes the fishermans view has graduated from K K K university! I’m not sure which university you attended…. But appearantly they refuse to teach the constitution, how and why the people of America came up with it in the first place.

      Lesson 1….. First amendment…. In lesson 1 we will discuss freedom of speech, freedom of the press, freedom of religion…….

      I may not agree with your opinion, I may not like what you’ve said! But I will defend to my dying day your right to say it! And your right…. I am a white man…. And your wrong…. I did vote for Obama…… And your wrong again…. It’s not because he’s half white and half black that I’m voting to get rid of him….. I’m voting to get rid of him because he took an oath the protect and defend the constitution of America….. I voted for him instead of a republican for the same reason last election….. I didn’t figure Obama could possibly violate the constitution worse than bush jr…. And I was completely wrong….. Not only has he violated the constitution…… Which offers you your freedoms black/white/Hispanic/Asia whatever…… Your losing because of it! And so are the rest of us!

      Wait till you see what happens when there are no tax payers left to support 10 trillion dollars Obama has spent….. Money not yet collected from the small businesses that are about to fail….

      Hope you don’t have grandchildren….. Or great grandchildren in the next 50 years…. Because you are now responsible for their suffering….. For the decisions you are making today! But it’s ok…. You seem pretty closed minded, that your way is the only way…. And that’s ok….. Because the end result is that you don’t have the information to teach your children how not to suffer…. Gaurenteeing they fail! Good luck brother….. Calling us kkk alumni aught to fix the problem…. Hope you give your children better coping/social skills then you learned….. But I don’t see it happen…. But I don’t believe this is your fault either….. It was something you were supposed to learn from your parents….. And obviously they didn’t know either!

  • Thinking About

    On parts of this conversation might be true. As in the case of Bain, vulcher capitolist, someone else made the money and Bain seized it. This discussion could go further, if there was not consumers with funds more companies would not grow and stay in business. Want to know who the job creators are, look to the consumers of products or service, these are the job creators. If the war on middle class Americans continues there will not be enough funds for the consumers to purchase the products. What is going to happen to the bottom line, more companies will not be able to continue in business. When vulcher capitolists continues to raid companies and pension funds there will be less funds to continue the commerce.

  • Earl, QUEENS, NY

    If anyone should be ashamed of their success, it should be Barack ‘Who’s insane’ Obama. How did he succeed?? He’s really a loser who never had or created a real job. All he did was community organizing or agitating. And he won elections by reading teleprompters; also with the help of ACORN and Black Panthers in their fraudulent votes and voter intimidation, respectively. And we know this is why he wants illegal aliens – for their (illegal!!) votes!! Of course we all need roads and bridges to travel on and ship products which people need and want. Some of us may someday need the help of police and firefighters. But ask yourself: How many of us would be successful only if we relied on teleprompters, illegal aliens, lawless panthers, or outfits like ACORN?? ….. And as always, I say to the delusional Ron Paul supporters who often write onto this website: If you vote 3rd party, or write in a vote for this unelectable old kook, it’s like half of a vote to repeat the ‘One Big Awful Mistake America’ which was made on 11/4/2008. I am definitely no fan of Romney. But he IS electable, and if that’s all it takes to correct the ‘One Big Awful Mistake America’ which was made on 11/4/2008, then let’s elect him!! The worst thing would be to repeat the ‘One Big Awful Mistake America’!!

    • DAK

      I thyink the biggest mistake we can make is letting you near a voting booth if your posts are any indication of your intelligence. You don’t care who is running or what they want to do… just as long as they are not Obama, they get your vote. You, sir, are an ignorant fool… the perfect sheep for the Judas Goat named Mitt Romney and his handlers. Anything negative about Mitt is swept under the rug (with YOU holding up the edge of the carpet) while anything negative, or anything that can be MADE negative about Obama is blown all out of proportion and you more willing lick it up like a dog.

      I don’t care if you hate Obama, I don’t care if you love Mitt. I do care that you don’t have any other requirement to be President other than “Not Obama.”

      • http://www.dog-gone-truth.com/bobmann101/DGT.aspx Robert Hamilton

        Well Dak I too would vote for anyone else but this illegal, phony, lying, Muslim, foreign national who is POTUS at this point in time. I am not a Romney fan and wish I did not have to vote for him. At least the Mormons do not want to wipe all Christians and Jews off the map like Muslims state in their demonstrations in cities around the world. BHO has admitted he is a Muslim and holds the same belief. He has done nothing in his life, but have fun. He has been pampered, he has never had a job, he has had everything paid for. He has proved time and time he does not care about OUR Congress, tOUR Constitution, the Bill of Rights, the Supreme Court, nor we the people. I think BHO will remain in office until his big money string pulling puppet masters are finished with him. Then he will somehow be eliminated.
        So Dak, you being on BHO’s side makes me think you feel the same way about the demise of the US. It seems to me you want to believe the ‘make me feel good stuff’ instead of the truth. All you need to do is get educated on the facts so you can back up what you believe and state.

  • nursesteve12

    by the way. wites is spelled Whites’

  • ASIM ALI

    CHRISTOPHER HORTON; YOU ARE SO IGNORANT!! NEGROES? TRY AFRICAN AMERICAN OR BLACK FOLKS. YES, A LOT OF US ARE RELIGIOUS AND THANK GOD FOR ALL BLESSING. BUT WHAT THE PRESIDENT IS TALKING ABOUT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH RELIGION BUT A SOCIAL ORDER; MORE TO DO WITH SOCIALISM AND NOT FREE ENTERPRISE WHICH IS WHAT THIS COUNTRY IS BUILT ON AND WHY COMMUNISM HAS COLLAPSED. TO CALL THE PRESIDENT A KENYAN IS TOTALLY WRONG HE WAS RAISED AS AN AMERICAN BY A WHITE AMERICAN FAMILY WITH WHITE LIBERAL VIEWS WHICH IS WHY HE BELIEVES THE GOVERNMENT CAN CURE ALL ILLS THIS COUNTRY HAS CREATED FOR ITSELF!!

    • Chief Oren

      Really? Born Kenyan, educated in Indonesia, mentored by communists, and you call that White Liberal? Wait, maybe you are right. (Not my type of right though).

    • Nancy in Nebraska

      Gee! I want to be called a “perfect, glorious, wonderful Norwegian/German American” but everybody keeps calling me “white”! Who do I complain to?!?

  • http://www.dog-gone-truth.com/bobmann101/DGT.aspx Robert Hamilton

    This illegal, phony, lying Muslim, foreign national has a lot of room to talk. Look at all the help he has recieved. Never had to any work. Just had fun, fun fun,

  • angelwannabe

    “The Lie That Should Sink Obama”, yeah yeah we heard that before, everything this man does or even attempts to do, he gets a free pass to go. Only the corrupt can get they’re screwups paid off, patted on the back and they continue to create more destruction__If one more person tells me to Vote, Vote Vote……I have NO confidence in our votes, Zero, Zip, Nada,
    No matter who gets in NOTHING EVER CHANGES!_Romney’s gonna be an Obama Lite Beer!__Fire’m all_Time to start fresh!

  • CHRISTOPHER ALLEN HORTON

    PEOPLE IN THIS THREAD DO NOT UNDERSTAND CULTURAL SPEECH. IF THE BIRACIAL PRESIDENT HAD SPOKEN THOSE E-X-A-C-T WORDS TO AN ALL-NEGRO AUDIENCE, YOU WOULD HEAR SHOUTS OF “A-men.” NEGROES WOULD INTERPRET THOSE WORDS TO MEAN THE “Lord” HELPED THOSE BUSINESSMEN BUILD THEIR BUSINESSES.

    • Pathfinder

      Nice try Christopher: Obama never mentioned God. He gave credit to highways, teachers and so on. Given your commentaries on “black linguistics” anrespective deities for African born(Allah)and American borns Blacks (Jesus) this Kenyan( as you called Obama) who attended 9 years of muslim grade school would have used the aforementioned “African born” reference.

    • Nancy in Nebraska

      I believe that might be how he would be interpreted but I don’t believe that is what he meant! He is a communist!

    • Ron r

      If Obama had said that to Christophers mom his last name would be Obama, or is it not already????

  • sodbuster

    After this country is ruined, who will pay for all the trash we now have here?? This country wil be worse that Chicago. I’m laughing as I won’t be here, too old!

    • Nancy in Nebraska

      I think you will be! I think it’s coming sooner than you think. Our economy is very near collapse. It has passed the point of no return. I follow MANY economists! Almost all of them are predicting that this will occur sometime this fall! Better get ready! This is just the beginning!

  • Dick

    directing my comment to the writer of the article, in it I used the word “sh*t”. I note that other responders use ‘BS’, not spelling it out.
    My comment was excised. Free Speech? Ha!

  • Karl Martinsen

    I can’t wait for the presidential election to really swing into high gear. I truly hope Romney clearly picks apart all the horrendous ‘sneaky’ things Obama has introduced through executive orders. To me he is the most bigoted man I have ever listened to and I am ashamed of him. As for his wife Michelle, her graduate thesis says it all; another anti white bigot. If Obama gets elected again it truly shows how far work ethics, morality and common decency have fallen. Obama is not alone. Let me hear someone in Congress clearly explain why they are entitled to such enormous pensions, vacation days, unlimited sick leave, and healthy benefits … and … exclusion from Obama care.

    Karl Martinsen

    • Nancy in Nebraska

      romney won’t point out obummer’s defects, very few of them anyway! They are BOTH on the same team!!! He’s had plenty to crow about and yet, you hear nothing!

    • Shelia

      Mitt Romney don’t have the brains to pick apart Obama, I can’t hardly wait for the debates so Obama can leave Romney speechless.

      • http://N/a CintiCB

        You and your type (empty headed racist groupies) are why the hypocrite is convinced that he’ll be reelected. Do you even hear the double standard (pot calling the kettle black) nonsense that you spew?

      • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing Jay

        One thing is for sure Shelia, it’ll be a very entertaining muppet-show. And while your watching, you can sing the Sesame-Street theme-song:

        Sunny Day
        Sweepin’ the clouds away
        On my way to where the air is sweet

        Can you tell me how to get,
        How to get to Sesame Street

        Come and play
        Everything’s A-OK
        Friendly neighbors there
        That’s where we meet

        Can you tell me how to get
        How to get to Sesame Street

        It’s a magic carpet ride
        Every door will open wide
        To Happy people like you–
        Happy people like
        What a beautiful

        Sunny Day
        Sweepin’ the clouds away
        On my way to where the air is sweet

        Can you tell me how to get,
        How to get to Sesame street…
        How to get to Sesame Street
        How to get to…

      • Nadzieja Batki

        If you are so sure that O will beat Romney, so why are you so desperate sounding.

  • Patsy

    American was built on the back and with the hard work millions of folks who put their own money and time into business to give JOB to millions of others. If you think your employer is not paying you enough…then go find one that will. Oh, I forgot…those jobs are gone becaus our government has penalized business so much they can’t pay the really good salaries anymore.

  • dcjdavis

    Hasn’t everything Obama has said and done so far been illustration enough of the fact that he wants government fingers in every pie? Shoot! He wants to eat your lunch and have you believe that if he allows you a sniff you should consider yourself truly blessed. After all, there are others who are so much more deserving of what you have than you are yourself, no matter that you have worked for it all.
    Can’t understand why it’s so hard for some to see that this really ugly, “…you didn’t build that”, statement of his is any different from anything else he’s said or done. I can’t say if he believes what he says or not; but I know he wants us to believe it.

    • http://harleyspoon.wordpress.com harleyspoon

      OBAMA DID NOT SAY THE INFRASTRUCTURE WAS THE “SOLE REASON” FOR BUSINESS SUCCESS…HE SAID (TO ANYONE WITH GOOD SENSE AND COGNITIVE CAPABILITY), THAT THE INFRASTRUCTURE WAS A CATALYST TO THAT SUCCESS…AND, AS A BUSINESSMAN (UNLIKE SOME OF THE GOOFS WHO COMMENT HERE), I CAN ATTEST THAT MY INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS SUCCESS HAD, IN LARGE PART, A MAJOR DEPENDENCE ON STREETS, ROADS, HIGHWAYS, WATER SYSTEMS, POWER GRID, TRANSPORTATION SYSTEMS, SEWER SYSTEMS, EDUCATION SYSTEMS LIKE TEXAS A&M, ETC.,…THINGS “THAT” I DID NOT BUILD BUT WERE BUILT FOR ME AND ALL OF US BY TAXPAYERS/GOVERNMENT (LOCAL, STATE AND FEDERAL).

      THE BIGGEST ENEMY THE SMALL BUSINESS ENTREPRENEUR HAS IN THE USA ARE THE KOCH BROTHERS AND THEIR MONOPOLIST CORPORATIST FASCIST CADRE WHO ARE TRYING TO BUY LOCAL, STATE AND FEDERAL GOVERNMENTS–LOCK, STOCK AND BARREL–WHO DO NOT CARE ONE BIT FOR SMALL BUSINESSES OR THE WORKING POOR AND MIDDLE CLASS TAXPAYERS. ROMNEY IS THEIR GOON, PAWN AND PUPPET. THE SOONER AMERICANS UNDERSTAND THAT, THE BETTER OFF WE WILL ALL BE…LIBERTARIANISM AND LAISSEZ FAIREISM ARE ALSO THE ENEMY OF THE SMALL BUSINESS PERSON BECAUSE THEY GIVE LICENSE TO THE BULLY; THE BULLY WHO WILL KICK YOU OUT OF BUSINESS BEFORE YOU EVER HAVE A CHANCE TO SHOW A PROFIT..

      THE ABJECT IGNORANCE I SEE IN SOME OF THESE COMMENTS IS ASTOUNDING!!

      • Shelia

        I agree with you Harleyspoon. Amen

      • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing Jay

        harleyspoon says: THE BIGGEST ENEMY THE SMALL BUSINESS ENTREPRENEUR HAS IN THE USA ARE THE KOCH BROTHERS AND THEIR MONOPOLIST CORPORATIST FASCIST CADRE WHO ARE TRYING TO BUY LOCAL, STATE AND FEDERAL GOVERNMENTS–LOCK, STOCK AND BARREL–WHO DO NOT CARE ONE BIT FOR SMALL BUSINESSES OR THE WORKING POOR AND MIDDLE CLASS TAXPAYERS. ROMNEY IS THEIR GOON, PAWN AND PUPPET.

        I’ve got news for you, harley-boy, so is Obama! What a fool you are…

  • Harley Spoon

    I am shocked that the right wing in the USA actually believes that I, as an entrepreneur in Texas, built the US infrastructure (“that”=streets, roads, highways, dams, lakes, US mail, etc) that I use everyday in the pursuit of my international business success….I love to be complimented but I hate having my intelligence insulted and being patronized by political zealots who turn a true statement by anyone, including the President, into a lie and use big lies, half truths, outright lies, innuendo, convoluted logic and glittering generalities just to fool those who are too stupid to buy it. Obviously there are plenty of them in the USA…Obama did not insult entrepreneurs. He told it the way it was and is…and we business builders ought to appreciate the honesty the touch on reality!!!

    • Nadzieja Batki

      Except you do not own or run a business.

  • gunner689AI

    Unfortunately BO’s core voters don’t care what he says or does, just as long as they get their handouts and promises of more. That’s how all dictators rise to power.

    • Shelia

      How do you know everybody want a hand out. Stop being a bigot

      • gunner689AI

        why else would they vote for this incompetent boob whose main goal seems to be to usurp the Constitution and tear America apart. What you call bigotry is actually reality. What is the definition of someone who can’t face reality ? PC is BS.

      • Nadzieja Batki

        So today you were taught two new words, handout and bigot and told to use them on this site. Perhaps you should use them on Leftist sites with people who don’t know what the words mean.

    • http://harleyspoon.wordpress.com harleyspoon

      On a per capita basis, the largest beneficiaries of government hand outs, tax breaks, subsidies, low interest & long term loans (that are often never paid back) are big businesses (many too big to fail) who were bailed out by TARP (a Bush/Paulsen) initiative. No one get rich on poverty programs except those who we call “providers”..and they are usually big business. That is why big business lobbies for and supports proverty programs. The person in poverty certainly doesn’t get rich on poverty programs…Gunner689AI, your ignorance is worse than your brain tumor!!

      • gunner689AI

        Institutional poverty is a life style choice. Do drugs, drop out of school, get pregnant out of wedlock. Don’t be surprised when you end up on welfare, white or black.

    • Ron r

      Hand outs like Romney and the Koch brothers get from the goverment???Wake up!!!!!!

  • MidnightDStroyer

    Obama still gets it completely wrong…He really has learned NOTHING of history. Where people gather to live, work & build businesses, the paths that people use are already laid out…ROADS ARE BUILT ACCORDING TO THE NEEDS OF PEOPLE. You can’t just build a road & expect people to use it if they have no reason to use it.

    Like many other Libs/Socialists/Statists/Marxists/etc, they have no concept of reality…Instead they try to project their fantasies over reality & fail every time. History is chock-full of such failures, world-wide & throughout human history…And yet, by failing to learn from the mistakes in history, people like Obama only PERPETUATE & REPEAT INEVITABLE FAILURE.

    • http://harleyspoon.wordpress.com harleyspoon

      The Interstate Highway System was built with taxpayer money and it is maintained by taxpayer money. It was an Eisenhower, Lyndon Johnson, Sam Rayburn, Senator Al Gore (senior) initiative…Highway builders now could bid for and contract for 41,000 miles of new highways connecting most of the major cities of the US…Suburbs resulted because of the Interstate Highway System…Because it was built, new cities developed and old cities were reinvigorated…The nation started realizing its potential…Dams were built to provide power in places where electricity had never been before (REA) and the quality of life in those places was enhanced. Without those lakes, many cites would not have grown…many houses would not have been built..many hotels would not exist…and the ripple of that is just part of the story of what a forward looking government (local, state and federal) can do to better life for humanity. Public colleges and universities were built and developed in order to take care of the baby booms after WW1 and WW2 and subsequent generations…Many were virtually free to attend. All of that and more was built with public money for the betterment of society…That was not “human need”..It was “human want”…It pushed the US to the top of the heap in world trade and helped us take up the slack post war Europe opened up as a result of the destruction of their infrastructures after the wars…Oh, and then there is the massive research and development as a result of NASA..from which many new technologies emanated and new businesses were created…You silly people who think all of this stuff came about by chance are fools…or uneducated…or both!! Oh well, why should I waste my time on ignoramuses who don’t want to think as they wallow in the bliss of their wanton ignorance!!!

    • Ron r

      So by your logic Ike was wrong. we did not need no stinking hiways

  • Jeremy Leochner

    Roads are built according to needs. How is what Obama said contradicting that.

    I am a social democrat and a liberal. I believe I have a decent understanding of reality. I am wrong from time to time like everyone. Sometimes I am stubborn and unwilling to admit I am wrong. However my being a liberal has no effect on how stubborn or reasonable I am. Ones political views do not control ones personal capacities.

  • Karolyn

    OMG! So much hate, so little time! :-)

    • DaveH

      Then Karolyn, you should stop sticking up for people who want to run other peoples’ lives. That has a way of angering the victims.

      • Jeremy Leochner

        No ones trying to ruin any ones life Dave. Except maybe those who deliberately misrepresent the president in order to ruin his. People are attacking President Obama for saying something that he did not say. Obama has made mistakes and some immoral decisions. But he needs to be criticized based on reality not fantasy.

      • Karolyn

        No one is responsible for anyone’s anger or hate but the angry or hateful person himself.

      • Nadzieja Batki

        When the Leftists have nothing to say they will inundate with cliches. Today must be desperation day for them.

      • Karolyn

        Nadzieja – Thanks for the laugh! :-)

      • DaveH

        A few too many, Jeremy (Flashman)? I said RUN, not RUIN.

      • Jeremy Leochner

        Got me there Dave. I apologize for my mistake.

      • Jeremy Leochner

        And again as always. Just Jeremy Leochner.

      • DaveH

        Perhaps Jeremy (Flashman), you may have averted that accusation of assuming the identity of Jeremy if you had early on stated that you are indeed an individual involved in a group of shills purposely trying to mislead readers of PL. Instead you denied it, as if somehow you would have no idea of the others using the same computer or IP address as you. The hallmark of chronic liars — deny, deny, deny, no matter how much evidence there is to the contrary.
        So you destroyed any credibility you might have had, Jeremy (Flashman). For those who don’t know what I’m talking about, read this thread which explains why there is little doubt in my mind that Flashman is an administration shill toying with good people by hiding behind numerous personalities on this board. Especially read Bob Livingston’s remarks:
        http://personalliberty.com/2011/05/16/what-now/#comment-341930

      • Jeremy Leochner

        Again Dave. You are using a different name. I never said anything about being part of a group. I and I alone am Jeremy Leochner and I am Jeremy Leochner only. You have no evidence beyond your own distrust that Joviounas or whatever is me. I have no interest in using fake names to make arguments. It wastes time and is an insult to the things I value and to everyone here. Yes maybe people do use fake names but I am not one of them. I have always come on to Bob Livingstons page using only my real name of Jeremy Leochner. That link that you have used several times shows a different person using a different name. I am not that person.

      • DaveH

        Bob says — “Dear Jovianus,
        Or is it Jeremy Leochner, Mick, G.Lewis, Sutekh, Rachel, rollin, Steve or HFlashman? It’s difficult to keep up with exactly who you are at any given moment”.
        Later he says — “All are coming from the same IP address”.

        Give it up, Jeremy. You’ve been exposed.

      • Jeremy Leochner

        Did it ever occur to you Dave that maybe he was lying or that he misinterpreted or that he simply had bad information. The fact is Dave my real name is Jeremy Leochner. When I come on to Bob livingstons page I use the name Jeremy Leochner and no other. I am not computer savvy. I do not know what an ip address is. Maybe someone is trying to make it look like I am coming on as multiple people but the fact is I am not. Beyond revealing private information about myself there is really no way to convince you beyond telling the truth. Jeremy Leochner is my name and it is the only name I use when I come on here. If someone is pretending to be me then I cant stop that. Just know its not me. The only name under which you will see my views are under my own. Jeremy Leochner is the only name I use.

      • DaveH

        Given a choice between trusting Bob Livingston and trusting you, Jeremy, is an easy choice.

      • Jeremy Leochner

        Granted. But it does not change reality. I am who I say I am. I am not what Bob Livingston says I am.

    • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing Jay

      I don’t see hate, Karolyn. I see frustration and desperation. If you are so full of love, as you claim to be, why not respond in kind?

      • Karolyn

        Jay – You know that I’m not one of the people here who disparage others and call them names. i have never used the terms “idiot”, “retard”, etc. I generally just stick up for what I believe, although I am only human and do allow some people to push my buttons, especially those wo think they know it all – have all the answers and are better than others because of their beliefs.

      • DaveH

        We think we’re better than others, yet you are the ones who think you know what’s best for other peoples’ lives, Karolyn? How do you people live with yourselves?

      • DaveH

        Karolyn says — “You know that I’m not one of the people here who disparage others”.
        Must have been another Karolyn in the prior comment saying — “OMG! So much hate”.
        Yeah, I know, you will just look again in your magic mirror and convince yourself you are the fairest of them all.

  • Mike

    I take from this, the president’s comment reveals a deeper concept. A belief that no one can build or create anything without assistance. While it is true that we benefit from living in a society, we each contribute back and forth.

    No, I didn’t build the bridge I cross to go to work, but the tax dollars I and thousands of others DID. So I contributed to that bridge. The house I bought contributed to the income of the people who built it and all the many components that went into it. I contributed, I did NOT simply TAKE.

    The mentality underlying the comment, “you didn’t build it” suggests he believes in order to be successful, you “took” from someone else. That is what is disturbing to me.

    No one can build a business without customers to buy the product or service. It is a sort of symbiotic relationship.

    • http://harleyspoon.wordpress.com harleyspoon

      Mike, you are right. We are in a society and the people in a society are involved in a symbiotic relationship…and that relationship is expressed via our government(s) at the local, state and federal level…..You didn’t build that infrastructure all by yourself and that is all Obama was saying…and if you wanted a road and no-one else did, you would have had no road..or sewer system..or water system..or police department..or city government..or state government of federal government..as the case may be..You would have nothing with which to accommodate your effort to build a business….It takes government to institute a means of commerce…MONEY…value of money…Can you imagine a nation of 315,000,000 bartering/trading good for goods? How far would we get down the road of commerce in that situation…We wouldn’t get out of our little village…and we’d be just like we were in 1812…You have to see that the US of 2012–a densely populated, crowded, urban, techno-industrial, interdependent, modern, complex society enmeshed in myriad international military and commercial entanglements–cannot be governed the same as the USA of 1812–a few loose knit former colonies, sparsely populated, agrarian, rural, isolated, simple, rugged individualist place barely known in the rest of the world. Every technological gain brings with it more complexity…every trade deal or military alignment brings with it more complexity…every expansion of territory brings with it new challenges…A flood in sparsely populated area can’t be dealt with the same as a flood in St, Louis…Each residence in a 50 story high rise residential tower can’t have its own water well and outhouse…I mean, we could go on for days with this…and that applies to every aspect of modern society versus a society of 50 years ago, 100 years ago, 200 years ago…Yes..we are all in a level of symbiosis…and so are our enterprises….It isn’t just a matter people who want goods and services…Henry Ford proved that when he said he needed to pay his workers enough so that they could buy his cars…But if no one else paid their workers enough to buy a Ford, Henry would have only made enough Fords to sell to his employees and he’d be out of the car makng business and only in the service business…and then there are the tire makers and radiator shops..etc…But without roads being built by the states, there would have been no way to get from Dallas to Waco in a T Model…My ancestors were in the Livery Stable business in Texas…When cars came along, livery stables went away…Luckily they were able to buy a car dealership…and so on and so on…and they lobbied the city government to build better streets…and the Texas government to build two lane roads with shoulders and then came 4 lane highways. Oops! Taxes! Taxpayers…The Orands did not build those streets, roads or highways…

  • Americanita

    We must keep the issue so concrete as to bring in topics of Black Negro White Muslim or Mormon etc.. The U SA built on differences and built on the sacrifice and entrepreneurship of individuals who persevere. Our youth must feel that energy again. Rescuing them from sacrifice and hand me downs will not give them that. Each one must make a choice in less than 100 days to pick the one that will allow our youth to dream and produce responsible commitments to those dreams without excuses about who has or has not helped them. Yes, we hVe to commit to support of our US constitution. We all need each other however we need each others strengths not weaknesses.

  • macgyver1948

    Hay Chip Wood… WOW, more hateful TEA … Obama wasn’t sending the message “you didn’t build that” as you claim. More out of context BS from those who hate for those who hate. He did say – you didn’t build that all by your self, you had some help on the way. What Obama really said is true, we all have help along the way.

    If any of you who hate Obama and believe any of those who say he said those 4 little words, as Chip Wood says (“you didn’t build that”) I suppose you would never want the truth. What kind of journalism is this? But we get that here and from TEA in general all the time.

    Listen to the video and read along with the speech for what root and wood is saying. See if you can find it anywhere even in-between the lines.

    http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog/watercooler/2012/jul/15/picketvideo-obama-if-youve-got-business-you-didnt-/

    I posted this the other day here but it seems only Rooted hate still prevails over the speech.

    When all you can wrap your mind around is hate truth cannot even sneak in… Go TEA…

    He did say “If you were successful, somebody along the line gave you some help” in that speech. Listen to it all unless you want to be lied to.

    http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog/watercooler/2012/jul/15/picketvideo-obama-if-youve-got-business-you-didnt-/

    I guess if you cannot win the election legally and honorably you will do what you can to steal it. Chip Wood, lies and Out-out-context BS might do it do it for ya, huh?

    • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing Jay

      One thing’s for sure, mac, you do need help; psychiatric help.

      • macgyver1948

        Jay, it is so clear you are not interested in the truth so believe what they want you to believe…. Don’t go find out what is real, just be their puppet… You seem happy that way…

    • DaveH

      With liars (Obama is a liar) you must learn to read between the lines. Why would he be going on about who helped who do what? Of course it is to condition people to the Marxist belief that nobody can lay claim to property but the state.
      “From each according to their abilities, to each according to their needs”.
      Obama can’t just come out and say “I’m a Commie”. He wouldn’t stand a chance to get re-elected if he did. So, instead he works to undermine the concept of ownership with the equivocation that any of us are only successful because we had help from Society.

      No doubt that every one of us has gotten help from others (or given help to others), sometimes for Free, sometimes in exchange for something. But that is irrelevant to any discussion unless you freely contracted to be obligated to that person giving the help.
      Progressive theft is dependent upon convincing people that people really don’t have strict ownership of their own hard-earned money.

      The bottom line — Progressives want your Property and they want your Freedom. Every thing else they do is in support of achieving those goals.

      • macgyver1948

        DaveH… You said “Obama can’t just come out and say “I’m a Commie””. Why would he when he is not but just as you can’t “just come out and say” you are a Nazi of yourself and TEA. I always figured people choose their own political affiliation and not have have people like you decide for them. That the American way but that you wouldn’t know much about. Here in America we the people choose how we worship God and how we decide which political stance we will take. Didn’t they teach you that in school? You do not decide for others and then call them childish names if they do not choose what you want them to.

        And we do not go around telling others what they want or think. That is a TEA thing, a far right thing, and you do that very well. We do not say crap like “The bottom line — Progressives want your Property and they want your Freedom. Every thing else they do is in support of achieving those goals”. Just replace the words “ Progressives” or whatever else you call us with words like “the right” or Conservatives and you will see where we are not coming from. Most “Progressives” or liberals do not decide for others as you seem to think you are capable. That is a far right or TEA thing (yep, worth saying again) even if you do not want to say you are of them. You do it all the time and you did it in this post of yours to me. What is it like to be so gifted? LOL…

      • DaveH

        It’s just reality, MacGyver. Wear it proud. Do you deny that you approve of Big Government redistributing other peoples’ wealth? If you do, then you have a strange choice of alliance indeed.
        As far as Obama being a Commie, he shows his true colors in everything he does. I don’t know if your level of perception is just severely lacking or you approve of it and just deny it to support Obama.
        http://ireport.cnn.com/docs/DOC-652604

        • macgyver1948

          DaveH… You say to me “It’s just reality, MacGyver. Wear it proud. Do you deny that you approve of Big Government redistributing other peoples’ wealth?”.

          Are you trying to think for me again? I very much deny I want big government. You can’t think for anyone but yourself so why do you continue to tell others what they are thinking? Don’t you ever get tired if being wrong in that regard?

          Actually I want smaller and less intrusive government. I want to shrink government but we have to be compassionate and prudent in how we go about it. As huge and intrusive as it is now it will take loads of time but we must begin now. With all that said I do not want to trade Big Government for (BIG) Corporate Government. With all the time I worked for corporations and with the Execs they scare me. And they scared the Founders but we have allowed the Corporations to take ownership of our representatives and the more that happens thew more screwed we will be if we ar not very wealthy and/or a big corporations.
          “I hope we shall crush in its birth the aristocracy of our monied corporations which dare already to challenge our government to a trial by strength, and bid defiance to the laws of our country.” – Thomas Jefferson

          I feel even small corporations will not be safe from big corporate control if they win and with Romney the big guys will win.

          By the way, your Sam Blumenfeld, the author of the article you sent me to. If he leaned any further right he would fall over. It would be interesting to look deeper into what he writes concerning the Obama’s associations in his article. I could present a pic of Romney with a swastika, the far right Nazi symbol, in Photoshop but it wouldn’t mean it was real, just like Sam Blumenfeld’s pic of Obama with a hammer and cycle – the Soviet commie symbol.

      • DaveH

        Macgyver says — “I always figured people choose their own political affiliation and not have have people like you decide for them. That the American way but that you wouldn’t know much about”.
        No, Mac, the American way was Freedom, but Progressives are trying everyday to change that. That’s something you wouldn’t know much about. I can’t choose your political affiliation, and I can’t even stop you from stealing other peoples’ money using Big Government as your Bully Boys. But I can wake others up to that theft of our money and our Freedom. That’s why I’m here. The only people who win when Progressives get their way are the Leaders and their pals. The rest of us lose.
        The non-zealots can read this and figure it out:
        http://www.freetheworld.com/2011/reports/world/EFW2011_complete.pdf

        • macgyver1948

          DaveH… LOL…I do not know how to respond to you any more. You are such a joke, a little boy joke. I can see no one has the right to disagree with you. That, little boy Dave, is not how America works and you will never be part of any solution. Your ways of thinking kills individualism and so it also kills liberty for all who do not think in your little boy ways. This goes for single minded thinking in religion and in politics. The “only my ways of thinking are right for all” is what will kill America if your ways of thinking prevail… You are a tiny joke.

        • Samdromeda

          Robots with artificial intelligence can greatly diminish government. But robots do not pay taxes.

      • DaveH

        MacGyver says — “You do not decide for others and then call them childish names if they do not choose what you want them to”.
        Are all you Liberals cut from the same cloth?
        Some quotes from the personally attacking hypocrite MacGyver:
        “Hay Chip Wood… WOW, more hateful TEA”.
        “More out of context BS from those who hate for those who hate”.
        “When all you can wrap your mind around is hate truth cannot even sneak in… Go TEA”.
        “Chip Wood, lies and Out-out-context BS might do it do it for ya, huh?”.

        How do you guys live with yourselves? Drugs? Alcohol? Inquiring minds want to know.
        By the way, here is Obama’s entire speech at Roanoke (yeah sure, somebody edited the tape, made his lips move and put words in his mouth):
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uzf4yjphgf8
        Ahh, the draw of other peoples’ money.
        This guy is nauseating. Everybody should listen to this speech to see just how low Obama can stoop.

        And MacGyver — Seek help.

        • Samdromeda

          If you cannot nullify the control of The federal Reserve it will not matter who is telling the lies. All national debt is controlled through Central Banks. It is a lifetime of taxation through interest. God forbids the imposition of interest yet our congressmen talk about servicing the interest on “Our National Debt.” We should declare bankruptcy and let the World Bank …[Forgive our Debt.as we forgave our debtors.] Repeal the Federal Reserve Act as part of The Patriot Act and with the expressed Administration thereof by Homeland Security and start over with full authority given to local regional banks. No more financing wars. Force the Pentagon to invest in local food production and infrastructure building and maintenance. The Army Core of Engineers should be a tool for maintaining national integrity through civil engineering. Bring back the draft for non combat service to the nation. Build highways and irrigation systems and remove the bull sharks from our fresh water streams and the carp from our lakes. Teach soldiers to be teachers and community organizers. No more gangs. No more gun violence. Ask not what your country can do for you. Ask who will empower me to do for my country in my local community? The leader who can do this will be a tool in God’s hands to save America. Anything less than this will bring the house down. Washington is paralyzed and fearfully waiting for the inevitable. Do not wait until we are rounded up and carted off to other nations as The American Solution.

        • macgyver1948

          DaveH… WOW, you are something. I do want to thank you for the speech in Roanoke. To bad it is wasted on you. He did very well as usual and he is the best choice we now have but since you can’t see anything else TEA is you.

          We cold have had nice calm intelligent conversations on here but you, like many other TEA lovers on this site, can’t seem to do that without stooping to childish name calling.

          You said “ How do you guys live with yourselves? Drugs? Alcohol? Inquiring minds want to know”. Frankly DaveH, I think you are to involved with hate for anyone you can’t get to agree with you to have any kind of inquiring mind. That could be why you stoop to the childish insults, you little mind cannot take being disagreed with. Whether you like it or agree with it or not you are exactly what TEA wants. The Koch Brothers would love to have a bunch of you around and they do.

      • DaveH

        More from the guy who admonished me for name-calling:
        “DaveH… LOL…I do not know how to respond to you any more. You are such a joke, a little boy joke. I can see no one has the right to disagree with you. That, little boy Dave, is not how America works and you will never be part of any solution. Your ways of thinking kills individualism and so it also kills liberty for all who do not think in your little boy ways. This goes for single minded thinking in religion and in politics. The “only my ways of thinking are right for all” is what will kill America if your ways of thinking prevail… You are a tiny joke”.

        Seriously, MacGyver, you are making Progressives look very bad. But then, the look does fit them pretty well as anybody who has read most of their comments can see.

        • macgyver1948

          LMAO…:-))).

  • http://harleyspoon.wordpress.com harleyspoon

    Things are done by society, mainly via government, but always by people…As if government isn’t people…Sometimes government is ahead of the masses..like in R&D, infrastructure, human rights/civil rights….Sometimes government is behind elements of the society…No human is perfect and, therefore it is lunacy to expect government to be perfect..especially in a representative democracy….One of our parties wants to go backward toward the very thing that is anathema to a democratic republic…that is, corporatism/fascism…The Kochs and their ilk are buying government at every level in order to commingle the power of corporatism (with them at the helm) with the power of government…and the Teapublican Party is their instrument with which to destroy representative democracy…Their tactic is the big lie, the outright lie, the politics of personal destruction, the half truth, innuendo, convoluted logic and the glittering generality!! Google up IT’S THE CORPORATE STATE, STUPID…read the essay by Mills…It is very revealing!!

    • macgyver1948

      harleyspoon .. Yep, I like what you are saying. Just so we agree with the founders and not confuse reality by saying “Corporations are People”. You are so right about the Koch-like and I strongly believe The Founders would be bitter enemies with TEA, at their top, and the Koch-like.

      I love this, and so many other quotes by the founders. “I hope we shall crush in its birth the aristocracy of our monied corporations which dare already to challenge our government to a trial by strength, and bid defiance to the laws of our country.” – Thomas Jefferson

      If we do not learn from it we will be doomed. If the Koch-Klan have their way we will be trading “Big Government” for “The Corporate Government Of America” and we who aren’t of them, the 90 some percent of us, will be doomed as the Founders warned us about corporations. TEA and the Koch-Klan are working so hard to destroy Obama because he is not working exclusively for the big corporations. Maybe also because Obama is black based on the Koch family history and The John Birch Society.

      None of us are successful all by ourselves, we all have help along the way. That is the real message Obama was conveying in that speech, not the root or wood out-of-context misrepresentations of the truth but that is what TEA does so well with their followers.

      • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing Jay

        mac, you are one deluded fool if you think obama is not a bought and paid for puppet of the corporate elite, and so is romney, by the way. You and harley boy, need to put the crack-pipe down. Wow…

        • macgyver1948

          Jay. Thanks so much for the “compliments”. If you were to see a lot more of my writing you would know I see that politicians in general are not in business to totally represent us. Romney is there for the corporations exclusively and for whatever the Koch-Klan wants of him and Obama does have hooks in him too. I just see Obama as being cleaner than Romney is but who really knows from the outside? I am not as naive as your “compliments” and crack pipe remark imply.

  • http://harleyspoon.wordpress.com harleyspoon

    Karolyn, The only hate here is what see is the calumny against Obama…He is villifed, degraded, hated, lied about, totally misrepresented by the radical right wing media..including the one we are in right here…PERSONAL LIBERTY DIGEST…

    • Karolyn

      Just another part of the media that makes its living on the hate and fears of people. Bad news sells.

    • Nadzieja Batki

      So your handlers directed you to come to this site and spew inaneness.

    • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing Jay

      So harley-spoop-fed-progressive-dope is trying to tell us that we have no good reason to criticize obama, and that we do so because we are just a bunch of hate-mongers. Yet, the fact that obama is no better then Bush2, and maybe even worse, conveniently escapes his notice. Let me prove it to you, mr.progressive dope:

      Obama made a deal to get the job in the first place.

      The deal was that he would carry on with Bush’s bailout of the banks, with Bush’s two wars, with Bush’s suppression of civil liberties, that he wouldn’t prosecute or even investigate any of the enormous fraud that had brought down the country, or the lies that had railroaded it into war.

      Even before he took office, he began fulfilling his end of the bargain. He appointed Larry Summers head of the National Economic Council.

      It was Summers, more than any other person, who was responsible for dismantling the Glass-Steagall regulations that had acted as a firebreak against banks looting the country since the Great Depression. Summers had made millions consulting for hedge funds before taking the office.

      Obama appointed Timothy Geithner Secretary of the Treasury.

      Geithner had been head of the New York Federal Reserve Bank, another central actor in the hear-no-evil-see-no-evil-speak-no-evil dereliction that passed for financial oversight in the Bush administration. He had been a major architect under Bush of the financial bailout that passed trillions of dollars to his former banking cohorts on the pretext of saving the system.

      Obama re-appointed Ben Bernanke chairman of the Federal Reserve Board.

      Before becoming Fed Chair, Bernanke had been Bush’s Chairman of the Council of Economic Advisers. Together with Geithner, Bernanke is the person most responsible for the collapse, the one person who could have slowed the asset bubble while it was still possible. He had been at the helm of the Fed since February 2006 and a member of its board for years before that.

      Obama re-appointed Robert Gates, Bush’s Secretary of Defense, signaling that there would be profitable continuity with Bush’s wars, gulags, and other military expressions of empire. And then, of course, he quickly tripled the number of U.S. forces in Afghanistan even without a coherent strategy or even statement of goals.

      He put together a “stimulus package” of $787 billion when reputable economists were screaming that the collapse in demand from the Great Recession was at least four times that amount.

      Then, in an attempt to appease the Republicans, he made one third of it business tax cuts, despite the notorious ineffectiveness of such policies in generating jobs. When states cut back their payrolls and spending in the slump, it effectively neutralized the impact of Obama’s program. Yet he never seriously attempted to get more.

      He proposed no jobs program to employ the seven million people who had lost their jobs. No infrastructure program to repair the failing roads, bridges, tunnels, water and sewerage systems of the country. His anti-foreclosure program was a joke.

      Some three million homes will go into foreclosure this year alone while one in four mortgages are under water. The share of equity that middle class Americans own in their
      homes is now lower than it was before World War II.

      And now the conspicuous, embarrassing truth is that he’s not needed any more except as a tilt-up dummy sustaining the illusion of democracy. And you can see why.

  • Karolyn

    Late breaking news – The Aurora killer was under the care of a psychiatrist who specialized in schizophreia.

  • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing Jay

    Who cares what he said, or what he meant by what he said. Its what he’s done, and what he will do that should dispels any ambiguity as to what he meant by what he’s been saying all along, you progressive fools!

    • macgyver1948

      Jay, since it is so important for Root and Wood and others on the right to distort the truth it is more important to get the truth out there correctly and not with out-of-context misrepresentations as they do. I believe in the whole truth if you wont know the truth. It seems, to wood and root, the whole truth is not what would get their agendas across. That is why they distort and mislead and it is important to get all the truth out there.

  • daniel

    Man is there a lot of hate here.Some of it I can understand but also some seems overboard. Some will probably say nasty things about me but oh well. First of all Obama meant every word he said just the way he said it. The man is not a stumblebum nor an idiot. He did get elected so that most of the people believed him. It does not mean they were correct but then a again there was McCain.
    Liberals here have been trying to point out the schools, highways and other infrastructure we consider necessary for a society as proof of what Obama meant. What is ignored is that businesses small and large do pay a higher percentage of income towards taxes than the non-business owners. I will consider that their fair share as nobody has yet given me a straight percentage that they say is fair. So that does entitle them to use more of the infrastructure than say a non-business owner using liberal logic of course. What liberals forget is that we and they(business) owners did pay for the roads and ifrasturcture we now have and they pay more by right of staying in business in shipping fees etc. Yes, the public schools educated the workforce and we should get our money back. Notwithstanding those were paid in taxes and businesses pay higher property taxes and the blue collar workers were paid by businesses who also paid taxes.
    Obama puts the relationship of a business’s success on infrastructure. I ask what was there first the taxes or the business? I know where my money is.
    I also read a lot about the Koch bros. but then liberals never talk about good ole George Soros. I wonder why.

  • needfulthings

    I agree with President Obama ; They didn’t do it on their own!

    • http://liberty fableanne

      You been having someone else pay your way, your name says it all, needfulthings.

      • http://liberty fableanne

        pardon, should read, You have been…….

  • jopa

    Actually this is a lie by the right wing media that Mutt Rummy was sucked into using in an ad.The American public may be smarter than what you think and listen to the speech and see how it was edited.The edited version and the Mutt using it in an ad really makes him look like a fool.The UK call him dumber than Sara Palin, however I don’t think he is dumb, just out of touch with reality.

    • macgyver1948

      Jopa… That is what the right, TEA and so on does. They edit and edit and widdle it down and repeat the parts that work for them. I hope if this is an important issue, what Obama really says, people will listen to the whole speech. I have seen so many videos the TEA and the Conservative right have remade and then saw the entire video or read the speech and they were no where near the same messages. It is a TEA thing and so is this article. They do it with Obama and any on the left they want to distort the truth with.

      He did say “If you were successful, somebody along the line gave you some help” in that speech. Listen to it all unless you want to be lied to.

      http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog/watercooler/2012/jul/15/picketvideo-obama-if-youve-got-business-you-didnt-/

      To say “The Lie That Should Sink Obama” should turn into the lie that finally ditches the rotten TEA bag.

  • jopa

    That ad may be Mutt Rummy’s Waterloo.

  • Vicki

    Maybe this is what obama meant when he said that you didn’t build it.

    http://www.wnd.com/2012/07/i-smartphone-celebrates-god-given-free-enterprise/

    Nah. He’s not into free-enterprise.

    • macgyver1948

      Vicki… How do you expect to be taken seriously using this video and saying, I think you mean Obama, “He’s not into free-enterprise”. When it comes to the out right misleading lies that this article is who do you think will have credibility when the smoke clears?

      If you have any interest in the pursuit of truth go listen to the speech this article is talking about. Read along with the words of Obama’s speech under the video as you listen. There are strong hints in there too about what Obama is into when it comes to “free-enterprise”.

      http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog/watercooler/2012/jul/15/picketvideo-obama-if-youve-got-business-you-didnt-/

      • macgyver1948

        Vickie…One more thing.. If you listen the real words also listen to the audience, business people who are not booing Obama for his words.

  • http://yahoo mytwocentswrth

    I cannot believe the number of people here who got caught up in the use of the word, “negro,” the history of God and Africans and all the other nonsense that is off subject. With all due respect, the subject here is that a President of the United States made such an unbelievable and idiotic statement about American businesses and those who built them. The TRUTH is, these business owners DID build these businesses on their own. There WAS government involvement, but they had the determination, work ethic and ingenuity to overcome the government interference and succeed.

  • Robert Rashbrooke

    I read these posts and I wonder just what size of government and what actions that government should take when the posters call for less government.

    Human nature being the nasty thing it has been, is and probably always will be, means that SOMEONE or SOMETHING must try to prevent the unprincipled taking advantage of the more principled and probably weaker members of our society. Without that external control, we would likely deteriorate into a Somalia, Haiti, ex East Germany or Zimbabwe type of country, surely not something anyone would aspire to.

    I feel that our government has lost it’s way and is overzealous in it’s prosecution of it’s responsibilities, and has been organised and controlled by self seeking permanent, professional politicians who seem to care NOTHING for their electorate, given that we are a Republic and not a Democracy. But there are so many examples of things that have gone wrong in our society, a lot of which had oversight by government departments who failed miserably in their prosecution of that responsibility, that we must maintain a larger, rather than smaller, government in order to prevent things from worsening.

    I go to as many of the links given as I can, to get information that I was previously unaware of, and have to say that I am becoming more sceptical as time passes, since each link seems to be promoting someone’s personal viewpoint, which may or may not be more honest, truthful or factual than the others.

    With the arrangement of the two Americas, I cannot see how our society can be amended to better OUR lot, the 99% ers, and remove some of the inanities that the Supreme Court has imposed on us recently. Nor how removal of the Federal Reseve will change our indebtedness.

    But one thing that will defintely NOT improve nor change things is the constant snide and rude remarks hurled out by those of one political persuasion against those not of that persuasion. If you want to change minds, use logic and facts, not abuse.

    From all that I have read here, it seems that neither candidate has any policy direction that would be beneficial to the future of this country. Jay’s analysis of the people forming the Administration’s makeup hit the nail on the head – it IS an old boys club that rotates at every election and maintains the status quo, in essence continuing our downfall.

    Finally, I suspect that this is a forum written by professionals for their welfare/income, and may very well be slanted deliberately to promote argument

    so be warned.

    • DaveH

      Robert says — “But there are so many examples of things that have gone wrong in our society, a lot of which had oversight by government departments who failed miserably in their prosecution of that responsibility, that we must maintain a larger, rather than smaller, government in order to prevent things from worsening”.
      Robert contradicts himself in the very same sentence. He admits that Government has failed miserably in their stated tasks, but then calls for more Government. Do Liberals ever throw in the towel and admit that their policies don’t work?

      • Robert Rashbrooke

        Dave, Thanks for the reply. I would like to comment on your response though.

        Firstly, I am not advocating increasing the size of the government, rather that I believe we cannot reduce its size too much or it will become even more innefficient.

        Secondly, because a system is malfunctioning is not normally reason to scrap it in its entirety. The MMS failed miserably in its job of policing operations pertaining to deep water drilling in the Gulf. The powers that be looked into the way in which it operated and decided that it had abrogated its responsibilities because it had become too involved socially with the oil field companies. So rather than scrap it entirely, the system was modified and broken down into separated functions, each controlling/monitoring a diffent aspect of oilfield operations. This action needs to be repeated many times in order to make more of the diverse government controls actually effective.

        Since I only immigrated here at the age of 58, my knowledge of the American system and history is sadly lacking. Being a Brit, I am socialist in outlook, but do empathise and agree with those who say there are far too many spongers milking the welfare system. But surely, the SYSTEM needs modifying to prevent that from happening, so that welfare CAN operate in the manner in which it was intended, rather than in the corrupt fashion in which it now operates. Sometimes I wonder if these systems are not deliberately set up to operate corruptly. When I was in BCBS before reaching 65 and going on to Medicare, I was always confused by the paperwork I received after a doctor’s visit, multiple version covering the same event, often with different figures on them and little indication as to whether it was a record, a bill or an inadvertent repeat of something. No wonder so many corporations, our Florida Governors included, were/are bilking the government out of money.

        I have only seen one site (Osix) that proposes a method of altering our government back into a system that represents the people, operates non corruptly and does not do things that the majority of the population do not want it to do. Everyone else, myself included, just argue specifics as to what is wrong with the present arrangement but fails to raise a different method of doing business, a truly momumental task.

        I remember back in the 80′s, the London Times
        it’s just too easy.

      • Robert Rashbrooke

        Oops, another hiccup with my computer. I was going to add that back in the late 70′s, the Times of London had a symposium on a method of operating business (worldwide) not predicated on the profit motive, since the economic pundits of the day had postulated that short term profit was destroying business operations and life in general. What the outcome was I do not know because I went off to live and work in Somalia before I saw the results

      • DaveH

        What part of — “we must maintain a larger, rather than smaller, government” — did I not understand, Robert?

    • DaveH

      Robert says — “Finally, I suspect that this is a forum written by professionals for their welfare/income, and may very well be slanted deliberately to promote argument.
      so be warned”.
      How could Bob possibly benefit (in an immoral way) from advocating Small Government, Robert?
      I’ll tell you how Big Government advocates can benefit, in an immoral way, and then you can tell me how us Small Government advocates benefit in an immoral way.
      1) Leaders benefit by the Power and Perks of office (no matter how bad the economy). They produce no real income of their own, so must gain their extravagant lifestyles by parasitizing other peoples’ incomes.
      2) Leaders benefit when they aid their Crony Capitalists with various forms of protections.
      The number one most subtle method which few people are aware of is with regulations. The regulations may be specifically created to hobble their competitors directly, like the Glass Steagall Act, which hobbled the Morgan Empire to the advantage of the Rockefeller Empire. Or, the regulations harm their competitors indirectly by saddling, say, small businesses with burdensome hoops which their larger competitors can easily afford to jump through with their cadres of lawyers and accountants. Other forms of Crony Protection include subsidies, quotas, tariffs, outright bans, and other forms. In all those cases the Crony Capitalists benefit at the expense of their competitors, their consumers, and the taxpayers. The Crony Capitalists, in turn, aid the re-elections of their Crony Politicians, and who knows what other bribes.
      3) And then of course, there are the lesser players like the Government Employees who fear losing their jobs and being forced to do real work where they have to please their customers or lose their business, unlike the Power of Government where they can push people around with impunity. Or the welfare recipients who perceive they benefit from the easy purse-strings (other peoples’ purses) of Big Government, but in reality are really losing their dignities, and a chance to be successful and well-off with a little more effort in a Free Market economy.
      Some welfare recipients have seen the light and are working to make the world a better place, like Star Parker:
      http://www.starparkerforcongress.com/

      Pray tell, Robert, how do we Small Government advocates benefit in an immoral way?

      • DaveH

        Robert, being a Socialist at heart would no doubt be an impediment to your learning the benefits of Freedom, but you sound like an intelligent guy who is up to the task.
        You should read this book as a good starting point to realizing why Capitalism (not the Mercantilism we have today) creates not only Freedom but also Prosperity:
        http://mises.org/books/capitalism_kelly.pdf

        If you read it with an open mind (not the kind Liberals claim, rather a real open mind) I don’t see how you can help but learn some reality. Of course if you’re feeding at the trough (Crony Capitalist, Government employee, Social worker, etc.) you might not want to learn reality, you might prefer instead to continue taking advantage of other citizens. But if you’re just the typical victim of intense Propaganda (most of us were), I think you will really enjoy the learning experience.

  • John Bartos

    Barack Hussein Obama is a Muslim because in a taped interview he stated that he is of the Muslim faith. I have that interview and his statement is not edited or “taken out of context.” Case closed on that one. Why do we “Whiteys” automatically assume that the words “racist” or “racism” apply only to us? It is rapidly becoming obvious, or should be, that black racism is much more rampant than any made up white racism. How much black racism do you need when 95 percent of blacks voted for Obama? More than 38 percent of whites voted for Obama. So much for “white racism”. Actually. there is also the beginning of Hispanic racism. If any one brings up the term racism, ask them if they are talking about black , white, or Hispanic racism?
    As was stated previously, government did not make small business owners successful. Government has no money. It always uses the citizen’s tax money to fund anything. Most of the time, uselessly. But, nowhere as much as the Barack Hussein Obama administration. Besides being a Muslim, Obama is a Marxist whose best and only friends during his early years were Communists, Marxists and terrorists. Once again, this is a matter of record. His sole aim is to destroy America and when he does,democrats will duck for cover – which they are good at. Republicans, who spend more time blasting their own candidates, due to political ignorance, than they do blasting their opponents, will let them get away with it.

    • macgyver1948

      John Bartos… you said “Barack Hussein Obama is a Muslim because in a taped interview he stated that he is of the Muslim faith. I have that interview and his statement is not edited or “taken out of context. “Case closed on that one””.

      “case closed, huh? Well, I too have seen several videos where we hear Obama saying he is a Muslim. Only thing is I have seen UN-edited videos where Obama says words to that effect. I bet the version where Obama is “REPEATINHG” “ I am a Muslim” are just that, poorly and amateurishly recreated propaganda videos. I look at them and I could see the frame splitting so maybe you should take a better look at what you have because you might have one of those. When I see those kinds of videos, as well as with those kinds of misleading articles, I just consider the source.

  • CHRISTOPHER ALLEN HORTON

    AS THE FIRST POSTER IN THIS THREAD – WHO HAPPENS TO BE NEGRO – I THOUGHT IT WOULD BE BENEFICIAL TO GIVE MY INTERPRETATION OF WHAT THE PRESIDENT’S WORDS MEANT, SINCE HE IS PART-NEGRO.

    AS AN ATHEIST, I BELIEVE I OBTAINED MY SUCCESSES IN LIFE ON MY OWN. HOWEVER, SINCE I WAS RAISED IN A NEGRO-MISSIONARY BAPTIST CHURCH AND HAVE FAMILY MEMBERS WHO ARE THEISTS, I TOOK THE RESPONSIBILITY OF SPEAKING FOR NEGROES – ESPECIALLY, NEGROES IN THE RURAL SOUTH – ON THIS ISSUE.

    BELIEVE ME, I AM NO DEFENDER OF RELIGION. YET, SINCE MANY PEOPLE ON THIS SITE LABEL THEMSELVES AS RELIGIOUS CONSERVATIVES, I WAS SHOCKED BY THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE WHO STATED BUSINESS OWNERS OBTAINED SUCCESS ON THEIR OWN. IF THIS HAD BEEN A SITE FOR ATHEISTS I WOULD HAVE UNDERSTOOD THESE COMMENTERS’ VIEWS.

    THIS THREAD GREATLY HIGHLIGHTS THREE TYPES OF PEOPLE – THOSE WHO ARE HONESTLY “GOD-FEARING,” THOSE WHO ARE ULTIMATE DECEIVERS AND THOSE WHO ARE HONESTLY ATHEIST.

    • FreedomFighter

      As part Cherokee I say this:

      “White man, now Black man screw up government”

      Where White Man Went Wrong.

      Indian Chief “Two Eagles” was asked by a white U.S. government official, “You have observed the white man for 90 years. You’ve seen his wars and his technological advances. You’ve seen his progress, and the damage he’s done.”

      The Chief nodded in agreement.
      The official continued. “Considering all these events, in your opinion, where did the white man go wrong?”

      The Chief stared at the government official then replied. “When white man find land, Indians running it, no tqxes, no debt, plenty buffalo, plenty beaver, clean water, Women did all the work, Medicine man free, Indian man spend all day hunting and fishing; all night having sex.”

      Then the chief leaned back and smiled, “Only white man dumb enough to think he could improve system like that.”–Indian Chief Two Eagles

      Only a fool does not see gods creation, as gods creation.

      Laus Deo
      Semper Fi

    • Pathfinder

      Hello Chris: I have read your threads and appreciate your comments , they are insightful. i understand your comment on the Negro attitude toward religion. I remember the first time I encountered “Have a blessed day”. it caused me to think about the person behind the comment. I seemed to have found myself with a person of similar values and appreciate your addressing the point .

      Now, as you may recall, I took issue with your defense of Obama by trying to explain his words and how others should have heard them. When i look at Obama see a “multi-multi-culterd” individual. He is not just black and white; he is more complex. When i read his history, understand his origins, and follow his career, both private and public, I see a very different man than he would have us believe. Further, his rhetoric is tailored to the moment. His religious mentor, Reverend Wright, gave a most insightful comment on Obamas character when his said “Obama is a politician and he says what he must”.

      Obama statement addressed physical things like roads, teachers, police, etc, etc. These are indeed things paid for with taxes by taxpayers for the common good. Obama never included the spiritual in any manner; and to bad he didn’t. Otherwise I suspect you would had seen participants in the discussion acknowledge spiritual help. Keep in mind that Christianity is under attack by secularists and I suspect most religiously inclined folds do not bring in the spiritual unless it is the subject matter and no form of spirituality was included in Obamas statement.

      Given Obamas background and life experience as we know them, It is very possible that Obama may be uncomfortable (or incapable) of addressing the spiritual in a manner understandable by most people. Please recall Obamas comment that: ” America is no longer a Christian nation”. He must believe that in his heart or he was flat out pandering to non-Christians. Remember ,”He (Obama) says what he must.” and like many others, I have come to see Obama as a deceiver. People who attempt to justify, interpret, or translate his words are on very, very thin ice. It is far better to have Obama and his words stand on their own.

      • CHRISTOPHER ALLEN HORTON

        “Pathfinder,”

        SIR, I DO NOT KNOW HOW TO RESPOND. I STAND BY MY COMMENTS. I HAVE A STRANGE FEELING YOU ARE THE TYPE OF PERSON WHO STANDS BY YOURS. WE MAY BE AT AN IMPASS. LET US CALL IT A DRAW.

  • C.D. Morgan, SSGT Ret.

    I’m not a racist, but then again …. I might be. I read all of the comments and I agree with the vast majority of them in their individual text. First, I personally don’t like the “You owe me mentality” which always revert to them making statements about slavery in near first person experince. I got tired of most every thing a black says and does, (I’m not talking about employment), or won’t do. After nearly eighteen years of online chat room dialog nothing meaningful came out of the chatter. You listen to the blacks rhetoric and hate long enough and you can smell the under current of false friendship, care and understanding. Take the Great One, Obama, just how far does his racist mentality go? If you ever question his ethnic race he’ll be the first one to tell you he is black. Why not white? All this over four words of our First Black. I trust CHRISTOPHER ALLEN HORTON in opinon but not all. RON r, well, in my personal opinon, is a racist, looking for something to hate. Please allow me, My family tree is a tree of former slave owners… yup! My G-G-G Grandfather owner of 258 slaves fed and cared for as many as he could take in. Why on Christmas one season he deeded ownership of two slaves; an elderly woman and her middle age son, to his son. Seeing how they had 6K in land making up the plantation. You’ll also warm up when you find out that my meany-times-historic-back GGGGGGGrandAunt had three slaves of which she Willed to her children. She had eleven children, one of which was Daniel Boone. No, old Daniel never owned a slave. Oh well, I could go on for ever with the Tree and many of the documented facts. I’ll leave you with this note, ‘I try to avoid black people, not because I’m frightened or scared of them but because I don’t want the burden of what might happen.

    • Ron r

      C.D.Morgan , you are an idiot like so many others. And if you think the other idiot (Horton) has insight on anything, i can only say that I am glad i never served with you and you were in a leadership position.

  • macgyver1948

    When I listened to Obama’s speech I heard cheers and applause but never did I hear boos or discontent. The business people who were there, and those who listen to the whole thing and not the out-of-context BS, as we are told here, know the truth. I tried a few times to list the link here but I see there are still those who want to believe the Right’s BS. Go for it if you are into the truth; don’t if you are for TEA.. The Constitution says you have the Right to be wrong if you choose to.

    http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog/watercooler/2012/jul/15/picketvideo-obama-if-youve-got-business-you-didnt-/

    President Barack Obama addressed supporters in Roanoke, Virginia on Friday afternoon and took a shot at the business community. President Obama dismissed any credit business owners give themselves for their success:

    There are a lot of wealthy, successful Americans who agree with me — because they want to give something back.  They know they didn’t — look, if you’ve been successful, you didn’t get there on your own.  You didn’t get there on your own.  I’m always struck by people who think, well, it must be because I was just so smart.  There are a lot of smart people out there.  It must be because I worked harder than everybody else.  Let me tell you something — there are a whole bunch of hardworking people out there.  (Applause.)

         If you were successful, somebody along the line gave you some help.  There was a great teacher somewhere in your life.  Somebody helped to create this unbelievable American system that we have that allowed you to thrive.  Somebody invested in roads and bridges.  If you’ve got a business — you didn’t build that.  Somebody else made that happen.  The Internet didn’t get invented on its own.  Government research created the Internet so that all the companies could make money off the Internet.

         The point is, is that when we succeed, we succeed because of our individual initiative, but also because we do things together.  There are some things, just like fighting fires, we don’t do on our own.  I mean, imagine if everybody had their own fire service.  That would be a hard way to organize fighting fires. 

    • DaveH

      Macgyver says — “When I listened to Obama’s speech I heard cheers and applause but never did I hear boos or discontent”.
      Surely you kid? Here’s the typical crowd that Obama speaks to:
      http://micmn.com/4838/obama-gives-speech-no-mention-of-unemployment-extension-or-tier-v/4838/
      “delivered before what reporters on the scene called “a carefully screened crowd” of about 3,000 “Democratic faithful””.
      Duh, no boos or discontent? I wonder why?

  • Old Sully

    Mr Obama has done every thing he can to destroy businesses in America. His ideology says that if you are successful you must be oppressing those who are not. Given his Marxist background it is easy to understand his statement demeaning the accomplishments of business owners.

    Mr Obama has peen a parasite his entire adult life. His job as an Acorn community organizer was supported by tax dollars. Parasites are able to reproduce rapidly. He used the Cloward-Piven strategy to recruit others into parasites maximizing the number social service recipients in order to bankrupt the governments that provide them. He and his fellow acornites succeeded laying waste to Detroit and Chicago in particular. As he advanced in power in the Illinois State and U.S. Senate he continued to advance laws and funding that expanded the damage. As President he is a breading parasite on steroids. The latest estimate of those on public assistance is over 100 million people. Eventually the parasites kill the host. With no more blood to suck the parasites die having fulfilled Obama’s purpose.

    • Ron r

      NAME ONE THING THE PRESIDENT HAS DONE TO HURT ANY BUSINESS???NAME ONE THING MITT ROMNEY HAS DONE , BUSINESS HE HAS STARTED WITH HIS OWN MONEY???NAME THE MILITARY UNIT D. CHEANEY SERVED WITH?? Oh my bad, he’s a draft dodger,

    • Ron r

      Old Sully, you have not named one, not one thing the president has done to destroy Detriot, or Chicago. Not one bill he passed while in Ills that had a negative impact on anyone. Seems to me that the same good old boy network that has run this country for years still runs it. CONGRESS!!!!! The amount of people receiving assistance began to climb not after but during the Bush/ cheney years. Something about tywo unpaid for wars and no job growth. So what did the president do? Did he take someones money? Did nationalize gas and oil? Did he take guns, or did he sign a bill to allow people to take guns into parks so they could have gun fights around children??? Give me something Sully.

  • Pathfinder

    Hey Mac: No boos ….Guess what, your not going to hear them because Obamas crowds are all selected for what they are, OBAMAITES. Do you really think his appearances are open forum town meetings? Are you really that gullible.
    Certainly there are things we do together and mutually benefit from, but to say “You didn’t do that” to anyone who works for a living and pays taxes is arrogance personified. Obamas implication is “government did that and that, you had help”. His rhetoric furthers his social justice agenda (socialism in disguise) and is embraced by folks who are less likely to be achievers.

    • macgyver1948

      Hay Pathfinder…. You might be right that there were no boos because there were only “OBAMAITES”. After all, how many non TEA go to TEA meetings? Oh wait, Senator Claire McCaskill was at one, for example, and she had to flee for her life. The thing is I see what was said, in the speech, and I know from the speech that this article is pour BS. Since they are offering different meanings than the speech suggests but using the speech what else can it be but propaganda BS?

      You are right about one thing but not how you mean it. I would be very “that gullible” if I listened to only the Left as I would also be if I only listened to the Right. But I see so much more phony-ied crap from the Right than I do from the Left. This article, for example, and so many videos the Right presents with such obvious editing that so much looks phony in their remaking of them through the magic of computers. Their tactics remind me of others methods before the mid 20th century who we fought against in WW2. They too would have had an easier time with the PCs of today but they did well enough to steal their government.

      • FreedomFighter

        Well you could just read all of Obamas record and find out he makes Jimmy Carter look like Ronald Reagan.

        Obama – Liar, socialist/communist, left-wing ideological fanatic, wanna-be dictator.

        Laus Deo
        Semper Fi

        • macgyver1948

          FreedomFighter… Were you trying to be impressive by showing off you ability to hit keys on a keyboard?

      • FreedomFighter

        Funny thing, you socialist commies, when you cant denie or explain you try to deflect or insult:

        Obama – Liar, socialist/communist, left-wing ideological fanatic, wanna-be dictator, gun grabber, destroyer of the constitution of the United States, and pusher of agenda 21…

        Its not the fact I have the ability to hit keys, its what keys are key.

        Laus Deo
        Semper Fi

        • macgyver1948

          FF….. I am no more a “socialist commies” than you are Satan’s spawn but you can call names all you want but it will never mean the keys you strike will know any intelligence.

        • Samdromeda

          How closely is the Tea Party aligned with The John Burch Society? The John Burch Society is the pinnacle of Patriotism.

          • macgyver1948

            Samdromeda… You said “How closely is the Tea Party aligned with The John Burch Society? The John Burch Society is the pinnacle of Patriotism”. “pinnacle of Patriotism”? HUH…

            Well, let’s see. The John Birch Society strongly fought against Civil Rights in the 1960s and any other time they can. They were always against any who weren’t exclusively for the big corporations. They called President Eisenhower a Communist because he was not so much for the John Birch Society. I wonder why. :-).

            Oh, one of the hugest founders and financiers of JBS was a Koch. A lot of his money went into fighting Civil Rights. The Koch boys, David and Charles, learned well and they are the hugest founders and financiers of The Tea Party. Must be in the blood. The Tea Party was basically founded to crush Obama and to help corporations dominate our country., Well, TEA will help those corporations who do not belong to an industry which conflicts the Koch interests. They spent loads of money trying to destroy the Solar Energy Industry. No anti-OIL for the Koch Klan.

            I hope you were being sarcastic when you said “The John Burch Society is the pinnacle of Patriotism”. Also, please define patriotism if you weren’t being sarcastic because the Founders were so much opposed to big corporations because they saw how much the corporations bought and influenced our “representatives” then and they would see that fear today. The founders would not like either The John Birch Society or the TEA at the top.

            “I hope we shall crush in its birth the aristocracy of our monied corporations which dare already to challenge our government to a trial by strength, and bid defiance to the laws of our country.” – Thomas Jefferson

  • Tired Of Fools

    It didn’t faze any of W’s pundits when WMD’s were not found after our invasion of Iraq. Or when Mission Accomplished’s banner was unfolded after we took down Saddam, and troops were still being killed. Now, Obama’s words, however stupid it was to say, is being thrown back at him. You kissed W’s behind during 8 years, but anyone else, even Romney not releasing his tax returns, gets put on your back-burner.

    • macgyver1948

      Tired Of Fools… I think you should hear Obama’s speech before you say “Now, Obama’s words, however stupid it was to say, is being thrown back at him”. It won’t get thrown back in his face because those 4 stupid words were not his message. http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog/watercooler/2012/jul/15/picketvideo-obama-if-youve-got-business-you-didnt-/

      Romney needs to get more than put on the back burner, we need for him to just fade away. If it is true, besides how he insults us and works exclusively for the Big corporations, he may have broken Constitutional and Federal Laws.

      I read an article this morning in Yahoo and a number of people brought this up. Here are some of my responses.

      Baptisms, the immoral kind, performed by Mormons.

      Mathew… I read this article. Did I miss something where it says Netanyahu and Romney discussed our “economic policy and job creation” for us in America? So if you can bring it into the conversation so can others bring in the fact that Romney is only for the corporations and not for us. He is there in Israel trying to shine on the Jews in this country for their votes and I hope all American Jews see what a phony he is. If people can bring in topics that were not touched on in the article Geno and anyone else can too. We see this all the time from those on the right condemning those in support of Obama for not including what they think Obama has failed at and what we need even if those topics weren’t in the article. How can we include everything that wasn’t mentioned in the articles? So we do what we can.

      If a topic relates more to Mormons performing damning baptisms on dead people who do not have them in their religions so be it. Romney and anyone else who performs baptisms on those who do not want them, dead or not, is violating the Constitution and Federal laws and they are religiously insulting. If Romney says he did these “immoral” (my word for this because it doesn’t belong being done on Jews or anyone else who doesn’t believe in them) baptisms and admits other Mormons have also, which he did in an interview, they are pigs and not for Freedom Of Religion, unless it is for Mormons, and I do not want that corporate pig as president for so many reasons.

      88888

      sdchokers • Bolton, Connecticut • 2 hrs 37 mins agoReport

      sdchokers says… “I’m mormom and participated in baptism for the dead. I felt a little wrong about it because we would baptize many Jewish people and they look at Jesus as a false Messiah. It’s odd to baptize those who have no choice whether they agree with the church or not”. I say he is guilty of violating The US Constitution and Federal laws.

      sdchokers…. I really hope you read my comment to Mathew on what I think of your “immoral” baptisms. It sounds like you are annoyed with Jews for “look(ing) at Jesus as a false Messiah” Your words except for the ‘(ing)’. I strongly believe if people would really read the Hebrew Bible, and actually saw it as God gave it to Moses and as it was taught through the ages, they too would see why we Jews cannot see Jesus as Hebrew Messiah. There are so many scriptures in my Bible which explain why Jesus cannot be a Hebrew Messiah for Jews but I will explain just once.

      There are many Hebrew Prophets in my bible but only a few spoke of the Hebrew Messiah. All of those who spoke of the Hebrew Messiah believed he would be a man, all human of God’s choosing- All of them. How could that be if the Hebrew Prophets received all their prophecies directly from God? That alone eliminates Jesus from being a Hebrew Messiah from the point of conception. By the way, Jesus was never a Hebrew king. So sdchokers, your annoyance with Jews for not accepting Jesus as a Hebrew Messiah is misplaced but we wouldn’t care if you referred to him as a Christian Messiah and Christian king. We simply do not believe in immaculate conceptions or demi-gods, we can’t and baptisms would anger God.
      Read our bible as it is and maybe you would understand this is how it is for us.

      I think sdchokers “felt” wrong for performing those “immoral” baptisms because he knew it was very wrong. Thus, his “wrong” feeling”. They weren’t performed for the dead, they were performed for Mormons.

      • Samdromeda

        Who were “The Watchers” who were chastised by the prophet Enoch for asking him to intercede for them with God?

        • macgyver1948

          Samdromeda… You are really testing my memory when you ask me about the watchers. I am not sure which ones you are referring to but there were so many evil humans and God sent some Angels to try to help with those evil doings – before Noah. This might help to see why Enoch would be upset – from some of my notes (read more at http://maxwellinstitute.byu.edu/publications/books/?bookid=53&chapid=484 ):

          The Wicked World of Enoch
          The wickedness of Enoch’s day had a special stamp and flavor; only the most determined and entrenched depravity merited the extermination of the race. In apocryphal Enoch stories we are told how humanity was led to the extremes of misconduct under the tutelage of uniquely competent masters. According to these traditions, these were none other than special heavenly messengers who were sent down to earth to restore respect for the name of God among the degenerate human race but instead yielded to temptation, misbehaved with the daughters of men, and ended up instructing and abetting their human charges in all manner of iniquity. They are variously designated as the Watchers, Fallen Angels, Sons of God, Nephilim, or Rephaim, and are sometimes confused with their offspring, the Giants.307 Other candidates for this dubious honor have been suggested by various scholars, the trouble being that more than one category of beings qualify as Fallen Angels and spectacular sinners before the time of the Flood.308 The Bible uses the title sons of God—were they different from the Watchers of tradition?

          “The sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.

          “There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare . . . to them . . . mighty men. . . . men of renown.

          “And God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth.” (Genesis 6:2, 4—5.)
          The idea of intercourse between heavenly and earthly beings was widespread in ancient times. Thus, in the newly discovered Genesis Apocryphon, when Lamech’s wife bears him a superchild (Noah), he assumes almost as a matter of course that the father is “one of the angels” and accuses her of faithlessness until his grandfather, Enoch, whose “lot is with the Holy Ones” and who lives far away, clears up the misunderstanding. Significantly, the name of the child’s mother is Bit-enosh, that is, she is one of the “daughters of men.”

    • http://http//yahoo.com sophillyjimmy

      Fools, you claim that an ad will be Romney’s Waterloo?
      When if comes to Obama’s Waterloo let me count the ways if I could without a calculator.
      Sealed college applications and records since they contain either that Obama stated he was born in Kenya or he was fraudulent with his applications, and if his records could be unsealed ala Axelrod style, combined with Obama’s own book that stated he was born in Kenya and of everything written in that book, his country of birth was the only misprint then if proven that he was born in Kenya, his only term as president will be null and void which means that all of the numerous departmental czars are history, Scotus Kagen, the Communist sympathizer that Obama appointed underhandedly will become a law clerk if she is lucky, Obama will be tried for a felony and maybe he could work as a law clerk in Federal Prison where he will spend a very long time. Fast And Furious, misusing Executive Privilege to protect his appointed homie as the Attorney General who if does get put in Federal Prison for perjuring himself as well as witholding vital documents in the death of Bordr Patrol Brian Terry will squeel lkie a pig on everyone involved, including Obama since he knows that Obama only cares about Obama when the shyte hits the fan.
      The romp in the back seat of a limo with Larry Sinclair where Obama supplied the cocaine and Larry provided a mouth for Obama’s gism, then they took it to a hotel where they both became sperm banks in ervery orifice they both had, which is not criminal in nature but is extremely immoral, especially since Obama was maried at the time. Again, not illegal mut immoral when Obama told a crowd of queers at a fundraiser that his wife Michelle goes all the way down just for money which would make him a pimp and his wife a ho through words, and lets not forget the recorded statement by Reverend Jeramiah Wright when he stated Obama offered him $150,000 just to say that he attended church regularly and his daughters attended bible studies every sunday and when Wright refused to lie for him he told Wright that was always his problem, he didn’t know how to lie, so when you talk about an ad being Romney’s Waterloo, if Napoleon had as many Waterloo’s as Obama has, he wouldn’t be exiled to the Island of Elba he would have been aquainted with the guilotine.
      I have a funny feeling that your messiah in the White House is going to be doing allot of sausage smuggling in prison dude, and his many crimes and indisgressions will make Watergate, Whitewater, Bill Clinton’s using a young interns mouth as a condom look nostalgic in comparison.
      Who’s your daddy now Fools?

      • Samdromeda

        Proverbs 10:18 He who conceals his hatred has lying lips, and whoever spreds slander is a FOOL.

  • Ron r

    So Freedom Fighter, if the president is all you say then I guess that makes you a fascist..

    • CHRISTOPHER ALLEN HORTON

      “Ron r,”

      PLEASE, “CHILL!” YOU ARE MAKING AN ASS OF YOURSELF. CALLING EVERYONE “idiots” IS COUNTERPRODUCTIVE. WHY ARE YOU ON A CAUCASIAN SITE, IF YOU ARE GOING TO INSULT EVERYONE?

      YOUR FRIENDLY “Uncle Tom,”
      CHRISTOPHER ALLEN HORTON

  • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing Jay

    Now we know why Fox News never broadcast it as they originally planned to.

    *I encourage you to please send this to everyone on your email list ASAP.*

    *Remember all the notices we kept getting to watch Fox News on Sunday at
    9PM? What Happened?*

    *This is the clip that got pulled due to pressure from the Administration.*

    Obama Puts Heat on Fox News to Prevent Sean Hannity* *airing this piece.

    *This is a video that Sean Hannity of FOX News has been trying to show that
    we are told has consistently been blocked by the Obama Administration for
    several weeks.*

    *Watch it now before it gets pulled from the internet! *

    http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=tCAffMSWSzY#t=28

  • JON

    When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature’s God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

    We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.

    That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.

    Such has been the patient sufferance of these Colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government. The history of the present King of Great Britain is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States. To prove this, let Facts be submitted to a candid world.

    He has refused his Assent to Laws, the most wholesome and necessary for the public good.

    He has forbidden his Governors to pass Laws of immediate and pressing importance, unless suspended in their operation till his Assent should be obtained; and when so suspended, he has utterly neglected to attend to them.

    He has refused to pass other Laws for the accommodation of large districts of people, unless those people would relinquish the right of Representation in the Legislature, a right inestimable to them and formidable to tyrants only.

    He has called together legislative bodies at places unusual, uncomfortable, and distant from the depository of their Public Records, for the sole purpose of fatiguing them into compliance with his measures.

    He has dissolved Representative Houses repeatedly, for opposing with manly firmness of his invasions on the rights of the people.

    He has refused for a long time, after such dissolutions, to cause others to be elected, whereby the Legislative Powers, incapable of Annihilation, have returned to the People at large for their exercise; the State remaining in the mean time exposed to all the dangers of invasion from without, and convulsions within.

    He has endeavoured to prevent the population of these States; for that purpose obstructing the Laws for Naturalization of Foreigners; refusing to pass others to encourage their migrations hither, and raising the conditions of new Appropriations of Lands.

    He has obstructed the Administration of Justice by refusing his Assent to Laws for establishing Judiciary Powers.

    He has made Judges dependent on his Will alone for the tenure of their offices, and the amount and payment of their salaries.

    He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harass our people and eat out their substance.

    He has kept among us, in times of peace, Standing Armies without the Consent of our legislatures.

    He has affected to render the Military independent of and superior to the Civil Power.

    He has combined with others to subject us to a jurisdiction foreign to our constitution, and unacknowledged by our laws; giving his Assent to their Acts of pretended Legislation:

    For quartering large bodies of armed troops among us:

    For protecting them, by a mock Trial from punishment for any Murders which they should commit on the Inhabitants of these States:

    For cutting off our Trade with all parts of the world:

    For imposing Taxes on us without our Consent:

    For depriving us in many cases, of the benefit of Trial by Jury:

    For transporting us beyond Seas to be tried for pretended offences:

    For abolishing the free System of English Laws in a neighbouring Province, establishing therein an Arbitrary government, and enlarging its Boundaries so as to render it at once an example and fit instrument for introducing the same absolute rule into these Colonies

    For taking away our Charters, abolishing our most valuable Laws and altering fundamentally the Forms of our Governments:

    For suspending our own Legislatures, and declaring themselves invested with power to legislate for us in all cases whatsoever.

    He has abdicated Government here, by declaring us out of his Protection and waging War against us.

    He has plundered our seas, ravaged our coasts, burnt our towns, and destroyed the lives of our people.

    He is at this time transporting large Armies of foreign Mercenaries to compleat the works of death, desolation, and tyranny, already begun with circumstances of Cruelty & Perfidy scarcely paralleled in the most barbarous ages, and totally unworthy the Head of a civilized nation.

    Nor have We been wanting in attentions to our British brethren. We have warned them from time to time of attempts by their legislature to extend an unwarrantable jurisdiction over us. We have reminded them of the circumstances of our emigration and settlement here. We have appealed to their native justice and magnanimity, and we have conjured them by the ties of our common kindred to disavow these usurpations, which, would inevitably interrupt our connections and correspondence. They too have been deaf to the voice of justice and of consanguinity. We must, therefore, acquiesce in the necessity, which denounces our Separation, and hold them, as we hold the rest of mankind, Enemies in War, in Peace Friends.

    We, therefore, the Representatives of the united States of America, in General Congress, Assembled, appealing to the Supreme Judge of the world for the rectitude of our intentions, do, in the Name, and by Authority of the good People of these Colonies, solemnly publish and declare, That these united Colonies are, and of Right ought to be Free and Independent States; that they are Absolved from all Allegiance to the British Crown, and that all political connection between them and the State of Great Britain, is and ought to be totally dissolved; and that as Free and Independent States, they have full Power to levy War, conclude Peace, contract Alliances, establish Commerce, and to do all other Acts and Things which Independent States may of right do. And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes and our sacred Honor.
    He has constrained our fellow Citizens taken Captive on the high Seas to bear Arms against their Country, to become the executioners of their friends and Brethren, or to fall themselves by their Hands.

    He has excited domestic insurrections amongst us, and has endeavoured to bring on the inhabitants of our frontiers, the merciless Indian Savages whose known rule of warfare, is an undistinguished destruction of all ages, sexes and conditions.

    In every stage of these Oppressions We have Petitioned for Redress in the most humble terms: Our repeated Petitions have been answered only by repeated injury. A Prince, whose character is thus marked by every act which may define a Tyrant, is unfit to be the ruler of a free people.
    When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature’s God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

    We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.

    That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.

    Such has been the patient sufferance of these Colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government. The history of the present King of Great Britain is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States. To prove this, let Facts be submitted to a candid world.

    He has refused his Assent to Laws, the most wholesome and necessary for the public good.

    He has forbidden his Governors to pass Laws of immediate and pressing importance, unless suspended in their operation till his Assent should be obtained; and when so suspended, he has utterly neglected to attend to them.

    He has refused to pass other Laws for the accommodation of large districts of people, unless those people would relinquish the right of Representation in the Legislature, a right inestimable to them and formidable to tyrants only.

    He has called together legislative bodies at places unusual, uncomfortable, and distant from the depository of their Public Records, for the sole purpose of fatiguing them into compliance with his measures.

    He has dissolved Representative Houses repeatedly, for opposing with manly firmness of his invasions on the rights of the people.

    He has refused for a long time, after such dissolutions, to cause others to be elected, whereby the Legislative Powers, incapable of Annihilation, have returned to the People at large for their exercise; the State remaining in the mean time exposed to all the dangers of invasion from without, and convulsions within.

    He has endeavoured to prevent the population of these States; for that purpose obstructing the Laws for Naturalization of Foreigners; refusing to pass others to encourage their migrations hither, and raising the conditions of new Appropriations of Lands.

    He has obstructed the Administration of Justice by refusing his Assent to Laws for establishing Judiciary Powers.

    He has made Judges dependent on his Will alone for the tenure of their offices, and the amount and payment of their salaries.

    He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harass our people and eat out their substance.

    He has kept among us, in times of peace, Standing Armies without the Consent of our legislatures.

    He has affected to render the Military independent of and superior to the Civil Power.

    He has combined with others to subject us to a jurisdiction foreign to our constitution, and unacknowledged by our laws; giving his Assent to their Acts of pretended Legislation:

    For quartering large bodies of armed troops among us:

    For protecting them, by a mock Trial from punishment for any Murders which they should commit on the Inhabitants of these States:

    For cutting off our Trade with all parts of the world:

    For imposing Taxes on us without our Consent:

    For depriving us in many cases, of the benefit of Trial by Jury:

    For transporting us beyond Seas to be tried for pretended offences:

    For abolishing the free System of English Laws in a neighbouring Province, establishing therein an Arbitrary government, and enlarging its Boundaries so as to render it at once an example and fit instrument for introducing the same absolute rule into these Colonies

    For taking away our Charters, abolishing our most valuable Laws and altering fundamentally the Forms of our Governments:

    For suspending our own Legislatures, and declaring themselves invested with power to legislate for us in all cases whatsoever.

    He has abdicated Government here, by declaring us out of his Protection and waging War against us.

    He has plundered our seas, ravaged our coasts, burnt our towns, and destroyed the lives of our people.

    He is at this time transporting large Armies of foreign Mercenaries to compleat the works of death, desolation, and tyranny, already begun with circumstances of Cruelty & Perfidy scarcely paralleled in the most barbarous ages, and totally unworthy the Head of a civilized nation.

    Nor have We been wanting in attentions to our British brethren. We have warned them from time to time of attempts by their legislature to extend an unwarrantable jurisdiction over us. We have reminded them of the circumstances of our emigration and settlement here. We have appealed to their native justice and magnanimity, and we have conjured them by the ties of our common kindred to disavow these usurpations, which, would inevitably interrupt our connections and correspondence. They too have been deaf to the voice of justice and of consanguinity. We must, therefore, acquiesce in the necessity, which denounces our Separation, and hold them, as we hold the rest of mankind, Enemies in War, in Peace Friends.

    We, therefore, the Representatives of the united States of America, in General Congress, Assembled, appealing to the Supreme Judge of the world for the rectitude of our intentions, do, in the Name, and by Authority of the good People of these Colonies, solemnly publish and declare, That these united Colonies are, and of Right ought to be Free and Independent States; that they are Absolved from all Allegiance to the British Crown, and that all political connection between them and the State of Great Britain, is and ought to be totally dissolved; and that as Free and Independent States, they have full Power to levy War, conclude Peace, contract Alliances, establish Commerce, and to do all other Acts and Things which Independent States may of right do. And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes and our sacred Honor.
    He has constrained our fellow Citizens taken Captive on the high Seas to bear Arms against their Country, to become the executioners of their friends and Brethren, or to fall themselves by their Hands.

    He has excited domestic insurrections amongst us, and has endeavoured to bring on the inhabitants of our frontiers, the merciless Indian Savages whose known rule of warfare, is an undistinguished destruction of all ages, sexes and conditions.

    In every stage of these Oppressions We have Petitioned for Redress in the most humble terms: Our repeated Petitions have been answered only by repeated injury. A Prince, whose character is thus marked by every act which may define a Tyrant, is unfit to be the ruler of a free people.

  • Ron

    Why does Obama hate America so much? Why is spending us into Godless Communist Nazi America-hating, Al Qaeda-loving, Homosexual-liking, Poor-people-coddling bankruptcy, wrecking this nation more than any president before him???

    http://www.forbes.com/sites/rickungar/2012/05/24/who-is-the-smallest-government-spender-since-eisenhower-would-you-believe-its-barack-obama/

    Now that I have your attention, I thought I’d post the truth, above.

    Okay, we’re done with the facts for now–Feel free to resume beating your hate-filled bang-hammer repetition of Obama’s ” crimes against God, Jesus, RealAmerica, and Ted Nugent (a brave, patriotic American and friend of Fox News, ready to join you in the Second Amendment Remedy) already in progress.

    • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing Jay

      Barack Obama was used. Of course, he knew he was being used when he made the deal. But what he didn’t know was how quickly he would be used up. Now he has to face two years of humiliation knowing that he betrayed the people and the country he claimed to champion – and knowing that everyone else knows it as well – but also knowing that he’s gotten what’s coming to him.

      Obama made a deal to get the job in the first place.

      The deal was that he would carry on with Bush’s bailout of the banks, with Bush’s two wars, with Bush’s suppression of civil liberties, that he wouldn’t prosecute or even investigate any of the enormous fraud that had brought down the country, or the lies that had railroaded it into war.

      Even before he took office, he began fulfilling his end of the bargain. He appointed Larry Summers head of the National Economic Council. It was Summers, more than any other person, who was responsible for dismantling the Glass-Steagall regulations that had acted as a firebreak against banks looting the country since the Great Depression. Summers had made millions consulting for hedge funds before taking the office.

      Obama appointed Timothy Geithner Secretary of the Treasury.

      Geithner had been head of the New York Federal Reserve Bank, another central actor in the hear-no-evil-see-no-evil-speak-no-evil dereliction that passed for financial oversight in the Bush administration. He had been a major architect under Bush of the financial bailout that passed trillions of dollars to his former banking cohorts on the pretext of saving the system.

      Obama re-appointed Ben Bernanke chairman of the Federal Reserve Board.

      Before becoming Fed Chair, Bernanke had been Bush’s Chairman of the Council of Economic Advisers. Together with Geithner, Bernanke is the person most responsible for the collapse, the one person who could have slowed the asset bubble while it was still possible. He had been at the helm of the Fed since February 2006 and a member of its board for years before that.

      Obama re-appointed Robert Gates, Bush’s Secretary of Defense, signaling that there would be profitable continuity with Bush’s wars, gulags, and other military expressions of empire. And then, of course, he quickly tripled the number of U.S. forces in Afghanistan even without a coherent strategy or even statement of goals.

      He put together a “stimulus package” of $787 billion when reputable economists were screaming that the collapse in demand from the Great Recession was at least four times that amount. Then, in an attempt to appease the Republicans, he made one third of it business tax cuts, despite the notorious ineffectiveness of such policies in generating jobs. When states cut back their payrolls and spending in the slump, it effectively neutralized the impact of Obama’s program. Yet he never seriously attempted to get more.

      He proposed no jobs program to employ the seven million people who had lost their jobs. No infrastructure program to repair the failing roads, bridges, tunnels, water and sewerage systems of the country. His anti-foreclosure program was a joke. Some three million homes will go into foreclosure this year alone while one in four mortgages are under water. The share of equity that middle class Americans own in their homes is now lower than it was before World War II.

      And now the conspicuous, embarrassing truth is that he’s not needed any more except as a tilt-up dummy sustaining the illusion of democracy. And you can see why.

      The rich owners of the country who put him into office in the certainty that he would be a smooth liar, able to sell the masses on the empty opiates of “hope” and “change” – they certainly don’t need him any more. Do the rundown.

      The owners of the banks don’t need him. They got their buddies, Obama’s appointees Geithner and Bernanke, to buy their trillions of dollars of toxic sludge with taxpayer money, saving them from imminent bankruptcy. They’ve got the Fed loaning them money at zero percent interest so they can loan it back to the government at three percent and to payday borrowers at hundreds of percent. It is literally a free, no-risk license to print money.

      The same bankers, the ones who caused the Great Collapse, got Obama to create the fiction of financial reform that left them bigger than they were before the collapse and with their exotic derivatives – Warren Buffet’s “financial weapons of mass destruction” – untouched. They are making the largest profits in their history and paying themselves the biggest bonuses on record. What do they need Obama for any more?

      The insurance companies don’t need him.

      They got him to create the fiction of health care reform by requiring 32 million Americans to buy their intentionally defective products and getting middle class chumps to pay for it. Their stock prices doubled as soon as the reform bill was enacted, a pretty clear sign of what the smart money boys knew about the deal.

      They got Obama to abandon his campaign promise of enacting a public option that would have actually brought down the cost of health care. So we still have a system that costs twice what any other industrial nation’s system costs and which delivers inferior results. It is still on track to bankrupt the country by consuming one out of every six (soon to be one out of five) dollars spent in the economy. What do they need Obama for any more?

      The weapons makers don’t need him.

      Since Eisenhower, they’ve been the king makers in American politics. They’ve gotten a continuation of the never-ending wars they have always been able to engineer. In fact Bush’s Secretary of Defense Gates, now Obama’s, commented recently that the U.S. was never going to leave Afghanistan. It’s clear who’s running that show. What do they need Obama for any more?

      The oil and gas companies don’t need him.

      They got the collapse of climate change legislation that they wanted at Copenhagen. Even as their products hurtle the earth toward inescapable calamity, they are left with effectively no restrictions on their poisonous products. What do they need Obama for any more?

      Not having the guts to raise taxes on the rich who now corner a larger share of the nation’s income than at any time since 1929, Obama has appointed a commission to recommend changes to Social Security. He loaded it with people who, even before it started, made it clear they would recommend gutting the most successful public program of the past 80 years. If past is prelude, they will likely try to turn it over to the renowned stewardship of the finance industry and the stock market, just as Bush had tried to do. It’s like when only Nixon could go to China, or when only Clinton could end welfare as we know it.

      From the minute he took office, he has carried out his designated role of pacifying a rightly restive populace about their economic security while shifting ever more of the nation’s wealth to those who are already the most wealthy; of continuing the country’s program to impose its empire on other nations by force; of dismantling historic constitutional protections of the people against intrusive and abusive government; of subordinating the people to their new corporate masters.

      For a guy who’s billed as a “Great Communicator” he has utterly failed to articulate any narrative whatsoever of national transformation or renewal, of rescuing the nation from the precipitous downward spiral begun under Bush, his predecessor. He couldn’t even manage to pin ownership of the failed economy on Bush, even though the Great Recession started in December 2007, more than a year before Obama took office.

      And finally, with legislative gridlock the only certainty for the next two years, the Federal Reserve has taken control of the nation’s economic policy. Its new policy of “quantitative easing” (printing money) is not only despicable in its own right, the recourse of scoundrels and national failures (think Weimar Germany in the 1920s), it is completely undemocratic, carried out in secret by the most notoriously elitist, private institution in America. It is a capitulation to a self-anointed feudal-like autocracy without modern equal, an undisguised admission that it is the banks and their owners that run the country. And it is the inescapable result of Obama’s policies.

      It’s hard to feel sorry for Barack Obama. When all the politics, posturing, posing and pontification are over, his party lost because he betrayed his base and they could not stomach voting for his people or his party again. He’s proven himself a duplicitous executive and a feckless “leader” who has “led” the Republicans to their biggest pick-up in the House in decades. Now he has to live with it. But the damage is incalculable. It will last for generations. It will be an embarrassment to watch him try to pretend to be effective the next two years, with everyone – himself included – knowing that he is used up. But he is. Good riddance.

      The above article is from a progressive site, Ronny-boy!

      http://www.commondreams.org/view/2010/11/07

    • Samdromeda

      Now you’ve done it. I have Cat Scratch Fever Playing in my head because you mentioned Ted Nugent.

  • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing Jay

    Now we know why Fox News never broadcast it as they originally planned to.

    *I encourage you to please send this to everyone on your email list ASAP.*

    *Remember all the notices we kept getting to watch Fox News on Sunday at
    9PM? What Happened?*

    *This is the clip that got pulled due to pressure from the Administration.*

    Obama Puts Heat on Fox News to Prevent Sean Hannity* *airing this piece.

    *This is a video that Sean Hannity of FOX News has been trying to show that
    we are told has consistently been blocked by the Obama Administration for
    several weeks.*

    *Watch it now before it gets pulled from the internet! *

    http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=tCAffMSWSzY#t=28

    • Jeremy Leochner

      I do not believe the President is Muslim. He may have respect for Islam and is not prejudice towards it. But tolerating something and believing in it are too different things.

      Why does it matter if he is Muslim. As Gandhi once said
      “Yes I am, I am also a Muslim, a Christian, a Buddhist, and a Jew.” And he also said “I came to the conclusion long ago … that all religions were true and also that all had some error in them, and whilst I hold by my own, I should hold others as dear as Hinduism. So we can only pray, if we are Hindus, not that a Christian should become a Hindu … But our innermost prayer should be a Hindu should be a better Hindu, a Muslim a better Muslim, a Christian a better Christian.” Being Muslim does not matter. So why can’t people simply believe the President when he says he is a Christian.

    • macgyver1948

      Jay,,, there is so much editing and reconstruction in this video and it has been out there for a while, I think I first saw it several months ago. So many people have seen it.

      • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing Jay

        What would be so wrong if he were a muslim, mac? Is there something wrong with Islam? Yes, there was obvious editing, mac, clearly with the intention of making the point, or building a case, irrelevant segments/information not included, obviously. Incidentally, the same technique used by law-enforcment agencies when building a case for the purpose of establishing guilt. Btw, would your feelings for obama change, if you were to discover that obama was indeed, a muslim?

        • macgyver1948

          Jay… You said to me “What would be so wrong if he were a muslim, mac? Is there something wrong with Islam?

          I do not believe I said there is anything wrong with Islam? I am not against any religion and I respect them all as a religion. It is how people relate to and thank and pray to God, as they see Him.

          I do see some religions as have two main views and many smaller ones within them. In that I see Islam has having its Jihad side and all that “Holy War” can imply. There were many so-called Jehads in history, whatever the language or the people involved. I see the Crusades as a Jihad with all the practice of evil in it.

          And I see the vast majority of Muslims as peace loving because that is how they see God. I have known many over the years through this thing we call the Internet and they all knew I am Jewish and we get along great.

          Then you say “Yes, there was obvious editing, mac, clearly with the intention of making the point, or building a case, irrelevant segments/information not included, obviously. Incidentally, the same technique used by law-enforcment agencies when building a case for the purpose of establishing guilt”.

          There are so often editing practices when those on the other side present what “he” (the guy on the other side) said. But if you totally distort the other sides meaning there is no honor in what is done and credibility is further lost on the side who does it. Root and Wood totally did just that, made Obama’s words say things he didn’t express and made him look like a hater of business people. A total distortion and they go to far to express pure hate for the other side. That is wrong because they lied and distorted the truth to far.

          I have seen videos presented by the Right, of Obama that were so badly edited they made Obama sound evil. Then I watched the entire video, unedited, and wow, the differences made Obama supporters who saw the GOP/TEA version want to scream for truth. They were both presented on TV, first the GOP/TEA version and then the real full version. That happens a lot.

          Then you asked me “Btw, would your feelings for obama change, if you were to discover that obama was indeed, a muslim?”

          I do not care what religion a politician is. You might remember when John F Kennedy there were so many far right Conservative, Protestants, who were so against JFK’s being Catholic. I care only how the politicians performs for us – The United Sates Of America. I bet there would many on the Right who will protest if a Jew runs for president.

          • Samdromeda

            It is known that a Jew will rule the world.

          • macgyver1948

            Samdromeda… You said… “It is known that a Jew will rule the world”. Do you really believe that? I never think of it in those terms exactly but I know the Hebrew Messiah will be when he comes. I know my bible fairly well and I know what the Hebrew Prophets who spoke of the Hebrew Messiah say God says and I agree because I have faith in God. I get into trouble when I say what the Hebrew Prophets say about all this with Christians because they do not want to believe what the Hebrew Prophets say. It is so clear what is said yet the belief will not be heard. I think that is amazing considering it is the front part of the Christian book. To each his own faith…

          • Samdromeda

            The scepter shall not depart from Judah. The next ruler of the world will be Very God. However no one will be able to tell Him that he does not know what it is to be human or to live in a society that was nationally structured upon the Laws of God which produces peace. All of the prophesies point to that fact. We are in turmoil now because we never listened to God or believed Him. God is doing everything with complete transparency according to the covenant that he made with our forefathers. This is reality and not religion. The punishments are clear and it has happened before. People seem to want reality on their own terms even when they are wrong.. To not pay attention and become embroiled in finger pointing is to miss the fact that the judgments are already in play. When will God have our attention?

          • macgyver1948

            Samdromeda… I see you are very much in favor of God so that is good. You said “The next ruler of the world will be Very God”. I am not sure how you mean that, the “Very God” part. I do believe how the Hebrew scriptures say it will happen, that being in God’s time He will send “the man” of His choosing who will be the Hebrew Messiah. We will know he is that man, the Hebrew Messiah, because he will accomplish the deeds he is suppose to accomplish, in their entirety (no less because Prophesies are all or nothing propositions so we can know). They were nicely described by Hebrew prophets in detail and those deeds have never been done in their entirety before, not even close, by anyone to even think the Hebrew Messiah has been here before.

            You also say “People seem to want reality on their own terms even when they are wrong..”. I find that to be so true also, even to the point of people redefining Hebrew scriptures to make their wants and beliefs justify their desired reality. It will not work that way. The Hebrew scriptures are clear.

            Then you say “We are in turmoil now because we never listened to God or believed Him”. I think you are more right than you might realize but maybe not for the same reasons as mine. God knows mankind very well and man’s “human” nature, He always did. God said He never wanted a man-controlled government. Instead he wanted His Torah to be the law for all time. But the Israelites bugged Him often enough so God gave in and said ok to their having a king. They felt they should have a king so they could better deal with neighboring societies.

            God suggested Saul as their first King. I have a feeling, and it is only a feeling, maybe God, as any loving parent might, allowed his children to do something He knew would be wrong just so they might learn “the” lesson(s) through their own experiences. That was around 2560 years ago and I do not think man in general has learned those lessons yet.

            The last thing you asked me was “When will God have our attention?”. I can’t answer that but I hope it is very soon because “Our Father, who art (is that how it is spelled? lol) in Heaven” might be at the end of His patience soon.

      • CHRISTOPHER ALLEN HORTON

        “Jay,” NO AMERICAN WANTS AN ISLAMIC PRESIDENT – “Christians Only” NEED APPLY.

  • Peter Wightman

    Kunta Kinta is complete FICTION

    • CHRISTOPHER ALLEN HORTON

      “Peter Wightman,”

      I HAVE NEVER HEARD Alex Haley HAS BEEN PROVEN TO BE A LIAR ABOUT HIS ANCESTORY.

      • nc

        Chris, to quote the First Protestant Christian: “I would rather be governed by a competent Turk ( Muslim) than an incompetent Christian.” M.Luther
        Makes sense to me!! The first amendment seems to make that possible as far as the Muslim part goes. The whole thing if you are born in Kenya!!
        Excuse me, Hawaii!! LIVE WITH IT!!! AMERICANS, ALL AMERICANS, CAN APPLY! MAY THAT ALWAYS BE TRUE! WE HAVE COME A LONG WAY WITH THAT STILL “ON THE BOOKS”!

  • ann

    As usual this was completely taken out of context. As he has said in his latest advertisement to refute these lies that what he said that everybody works together to build businesses. Someone builds the roads, someone puts the telephone wires in so the business can work etc. In no way did he say that they did not build their business. He was referring to the It takes a village and everyone to make each thing work to get the end product. Really, do we have to explain every sentence to you people.

    • macgyver1948

      Ann… You said “As usual this was completely taken out of context”. You have that so right but I believe you are being overly polite with “completely taken out of context”. But polite is good. There are some on here who do not want to see the video of Obama’s speech so they would know the truth but that too says a lot.

  • CHRISTOPHER ALLEN HORTON

    WOW! I NEVER DREAMED PEOPLE ON THIS SITE THINK I AM CAUCASIAN. YES – I WISH I HAD BEEN BORN CAUCASIAN; UNFORTUNATELY, THAT IS NOT MY REALITY. I AM NEGRO – THEREFORE, I MUST “PLAY THE HAND I WAS DEALT.”

  • http://none Floyd Hardee

    There are a lot of smart people, but apparently he is not one of them, and never built anything on his own. I have, and I am sure most all of you have also. Obviously he wants us to think that we could not achieve anything without big brother government helping us to do it. That means he intends to continue expanding big government and taxing us to death.

    He wants us to be their slaves….their subjects, who depend on them to survive. That would make us dependent on them, and in their thinking, that would make them indispensable to us. We would have to bow down to them because they are our Lord and Master. Well I don’t want to be one of their slaves….do you?

    • Samdromeda

      The United States of America is enslaved to the central bank better known as The Federal Reserve. The Federal Reserve Act gave a private bank control of our currency. It will not matter who is in the White House. The Bankers control every government on the planet.
      Andrew Jackson is the only President who killed the Central Bank. Abraham printed greenbacks and he was assassinated America was threatened with war through bank sponsored propaganda. Everything is financed through other peoples money and we are ideologically at one another’s throats. There is no unity and no matter who wins the election there will always be an oppositionally defiant atmosphere of obstructionism in our government. If I did not know better treason is the rule of the day. We worship money and the High Priest of monetary control is graciously allowing America to sacrifice herself. We have forgiven the debts of nations. Yet we are in debt up to our purple mountain majesties. Our tax dollars through the central banks rebuilt Germany. Big brother is the Central Bank. Money talks and political ideology takes a hike. Much regret was expressed by the president who was instrumental in The Federal Reserve Act being signed into law.
      Thomas Jefferson was right.

  • none of your business

    i am so sick of all this religion in politics….its 2012, not 1412. its disturbing, and has zero bearing on politics or values. It has been proven to me over and over that most of those ranting are hypocrats as they bastardize the meaning of religion and seperation of church and state.

    • Samdromeda

      One nation under God indivisible with liberty and justice for all. God is our ruler. Our forefathers promised Him that we would obey Him. He promised them that if we did not obey Him that He would apply loving corrections. This is not religion. It is a contract between our generations and God. It has not been revoked. The contract sets up the reality of cause and effect. Ignorance of the contract is no excuse. There are laws in place like the law of gravity, the law of thermodynamics and the laws governing the relationship between God and His people. This international wealth and dominance came by way of a promise made to a Patriarch who obeyed God. It is not religion. Any contract lawyer can tell you that. Have you wondered why so many have bibles? It contains the details of the contract. Do not confuse the contract with religion. Reality is in play.

      • macgyver1948

        Samdromeda… You typed “One nation under God indivisible with liberty and justice for all. God is our ruler”. Yes, most of the Founders were Christian. Many were of different churches. Ok, they wanted Morality to rule us and religion is certainly a hopefully way of doing that. But they knew the dangers of imposing any religion, or denomination, on any who are not of that “religion, or denomination”. They knew King George was inflicting his band of Christianity on all his subjects or at least wanted to. We know the Pilgrims ran for their lives to here because there were many Christians in England who persecuted the Pilgrims because their Christianity was different from theirs.

        So the Founders put “Freedom Of Religion” in the Constitution for us all but they very much discussed also putting “Separations Of Church And State in as well. I think they left that up to the states but, I think, they were wrong for leaving it out as history since them shows.

        The Founders knew “Freedom Of Religion” had to also mean “Freedom from the other guys religion and also at all” because if they didn’t we would have a bunch of Pilgrims situations here, and, even worse for those who aren’t at all Christian.

        We must allow for all the different Protestant faiths and the Catholic religion, and Judaism and Hinduism and Buddhism and Muslim or we do not have “Freedom Of Religion” here but instead we do have tyranny again. So the Founders wanted Morality to rule in this regard. We also must respect all the other religions and denominations as much as we want for our beliefs and religion to be respected or we do not deserve respect for our own. The Golden Rule sounds so good to me and to each hi/her own beliefs or we will fall in that liberty department. This has to include atheism as well but without the name calling and disrespect.

        With all that said I want God back in schools and Government functions. I strongly feel that all prayer time must be silent with no ones individual ways or beliefs said out loud. This way each child and teacher can relate to God how they chose and not feel discriminated against. For example, you’re telling me how it should work from your bible and beliefs will never work with my being Jewish.

        To each his own faith or there is no Samdromeda… You typed “One nation under God indivisible with liberty and justice for all. God is our ruler”. Yes, most of the Founders were Christian. Many were of different churches. Ok, they wanted Morality to rule us and religion is certainly a hopefully way of doing that. But they knew the dangers of imposing any religion, or denomination, on any who are not of that “religion, or denomination”. They knew King George was inflicting his band of Christianity on all his subjects or at least wanted to. We know the Pilgrims ran for their lives to here because there were many Christians in England who persecuted the Pilgrims because their Christianity was different from theirs.

        So the Founders put “Freedom Of Religion” in the Constitution for us all but they very much discussed also putting “Separations Of Church And State in as well. I think they left that up to the states but, I think, they were wrong for leaving it out as history since them shows.

        The Founders knew “Freedom Of Religion” had to also mean “Freedom from the other guys religion and also at all” because if they didn’t we would have a bunch of Pilgrims situations here, and, even worse for those who aren’t at all Christian.

        We must allow for all the different Protestant faiths and the Catholic religion, and Judaism and Hinduism and Buddhism and Muslim or we do not have “Freedom Of Religion” here but instead we do have tyranny again. So the Founders wanted Morality to rule in this regard. We also must respect all the other religions and denominations as much as we want for our beliefs and religion to be respected or we do not deserve respect for our own. The Golden Rule sounds so good to me and to each hi/her own beliefs or we will fall in that liberty department. This has to include atheism as well but without the name calling and disrespect.

        With all that said I want God back in schools and Government functions. I strongly feel that all prayer time must be silent with no ones individual ways or beliefs said out loud. This way each child and teacher can relate to God how they chose and not feel discriminated against. For example, you’re telling me how it should work from your bible and beliefs will never work with my being Jewish.

        To each his own faith with equal respect for and from all other faiths or there is no “Freedom Of Religion” for any of us.

        • Samdromeda

          From the same patriarch came 12 tribes. Judah was one of the tribes. The contract covered all 12 of the tribes. It is a contract not a religion. Prayer is simply asking God with the expectation that He will follow through on His promises just as we follow through on our promises to Him as one of the generations of the patriarch who obeyed Him and confirmed obedience to God as nations with and through Moses. All of the laws, statutes and ordinances are still in play. God has not changed.

          • macgyver1948

            Samdromeda… You continue to say it is a contract and not a religion. Maybe and I would say Torah never was just for the Jews, it is for all time Gods gift and law for us. So who knows? My family records, on both sides, show I am of the Tribe of Levi and those records seem to go back a long way. I do not have all the answers but I know my bible fairly well. I am wondering how Torah is not accepted by those who follow Jesus since his surviving Disciples, until their deaths, felt Torah is a must to go on. Where would they get that idea and why would they and almost all the other Jews shun and dislike Paul for all he said?

            Torah is that contract and it has never been fulfilled for Jews. But I cannot push that belief on others who choose to not believe that. With that “(In Matthew 5:17, Jesus said, “Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy the law, but to fulfill. For verily I say unto you, Til heaven and earth pass, one dot or one tittle shall in no way pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.”), And again, Jesus says, in Luke 16:17, “It is easier for heaven and earth to pass away, than for one dot of the Law to become void”. …

            To me the question is – Do Heaven and Earth still exist, as per Jesus’ words, since for us Torah has not been fulfilled? This is our Contract with God and for those who chose to accept what God has offered.

            Again, I will never subject any people to what I believe and how it is teaching us from The Hebrew Bible. Ask and I will try to respond but you have to choose for yourself. To insist others believe as we do would be wrong and so is telling others how they believe is wrong would be wrong as well…

          • Samdromeda

            I agree with you. God would not force anyone to believe as you or I do. The Universe still exists and the Messiah is coming. But ignorance is fading from the tribes and the whole world hates us. God gives understanding to those whom He gives the ability to pursue truth and live by it just like he did David,and Enoch and Moses and Daniel and Josiah and Hezekiah and Job and a host of others. But like unruly children God will be accused of loving us best. The rest of the world has chosen another god to worship.and obey. Human nature is degenerating and the world is becoming incrementally more violent. God is all powerful but His nature is not violent. The Destroyer is violent and hates us. He stole dominion from mankind which cut mankind off from God through obedience to The Destroyer. This is where the warring nature of nations comes from.

          • macgyver1948

            Samdromeda… You included in your post to me “The Universe still exists and the Messiah is coming. But ignorance is fading from the tribes and the whole world hates us”. I often wonder from history why Jews are hated especially by those who claim to be of God. They do not have to convert, we do not do the recruitment conversion thing for several reasons, one being it has to be know for sure that the person really wants to so it has to be their idea. But from my point of view the “ recruitment conversion thing” is insulting and disrespectful to the one being pursued because what are the “recruiters” actually saying if not “You need to convert to our ways because ours ways are so much better than yours and yours won’t work so become us and live”. Why else would any try to recruit if they didn’t believe that way so I won’t insult and disrespect people and we Jews do not unless that someone comes to a Rabbi and convinces the Rabbi he/she really wants to.

            I wonder why the hatred over the centuries because if you blame all people for what you think one or a handful of that entire group might, especially over the years with the generations, have done there is no morality or justice in that. It is like saying if a Protestant somewhere commits a crime we should blame all Protestants for all time. That is insane. Beside, according to Christians and their bible, wasn’t their Jesus suppose to come here for the purpose of being killed for their sins? I do not get it.

            Now you also say something else that reminds me of another possible reasons for antisemitism for so long. Bibles are made of of many stores with potentially many lessons in the stories. You said “God gives understanding to those whom He gives the ability to pursue truth and live by it…”. I am wondering if the saying that Jews are Gods chosen people is perhaps a misunderstanding but this is just my wondering.

            In the Golden Calf story there are many lessons but I will touch on only one that I think is relevant to this. When Moses was up on the mountain talking with God and waiting for the first set of the Ten Commandments God became so very angry and told Moses the people are sinning. Moses went down the mountain with that first set to the see what the people were doing. They were praying to and frolicking around a Golden Calf Aron, Moses’ brother made at many of the Israelites insistence. Now Moses was pissed too and he let them know by crashing that first set of tablets on the ground toward them. Moses was furious with them, as God was, and with great cause.

            Moses went back up the Mountain to God. God told Moses He would kill them all and continue his search for a people who would accept all of His laws, Torah, which is where the Ten Commands comes from and is a part of. The operative phrases being “accept ALL His laws” and “continue to search for a people who would ‘accept all’”.

            So my thinking is, and again I could be wrong, The Isrealites were not necessarily the “Chosen People” but perhaps the “first to accept all of God’s for-ever gifts, His laws”.

            So again I wonder why there is so much misunderstanding ,and in some cases, hatred for one of God’s people. And I wonder this, again, especially of those who claim to be of God.

            God will send His choice of Messiah in His time. We do not know when that will be or who that man will be. We just have to hope and wait but we know from the Hebrew Bible, from Prophecies, how to know this man. Prophecies are an all-or-nothing proposition so we can know. The necessary deeds have never been performed, not even close in total, by any as of yet and there have been many false Hebrew prophets in the past, none yet were the real one.

          • Samdromeda

            From a historical perspective, with respect to the hatred, there was engendered a system of government in which a temporal ruler was worshiped as god. The most notable was a man named Nimrod. He was a militaristic individual. It seems that his mother congealed the worship of her son even after his death and she became known as the mother of god.I think her name was Semiramis. As a symbol of idolatrous worship she used the sun. She had a son whom she claimed was the resurrection of Nimrod. From this religious system we get human beings claiming to have more authority than God Himself. This was the same system in play when Ahab married Jezebelle, the daughter of the high priest of Baal. This is the same system that incorporated the worship of the sun. She forced the worship of God underground. There was to say the least, religious confusion in play. Then God showed the people who was the real God and orchestrated it through the Prophet Elijah. The priests of Baal were killed, mainly because they were guilty of causing the people to sin against God. Ahab’s wife put out a contract on Elijah and to protect him God relocated Elijah out of her reach and influence. This same Baal type religious system is still in play today and it loves power and influence to the point that it separates human beings from God to the extent that they become agents of its authority. In essence in doctrine or in reality, like during the inquisition, an individual converted or died. That Baal type system is not of God. It actually forces people to sin against God specifically through Sabbath breaking and idolatry. Through this, nations, who once knew God, lost their identity and their contact with God. Temporal rulers used the Baal type system to solidify their power over the people and it was incorporated as a state religion. Your citizenship on penalty of death was to be ratified by your becoming an adherent to the state religion. The spiritual force behind it is The Destroyer. The Destroyer hates God.

          • macgyver1948

            Samdromeda.. I remember there was an expression for when someone was being over bearing or very pushy he was called an Nimrod (don’t be a Nimrod). I remember some stories about him.

            In ancient times there were many cultures who had something in common but couldn’t know each other because of time and distance and the lack of TV, telephone, Internet, etc. Most cultures’ leaders wanted to control the people in ways that would offer little resistance. So they had a thing they made up about their kings and emperors…

            Famous cultures such as The Ancient Encryptions, the Romans, Asian Emperors and many less known ones in the Middle East and Africa had these kinds of leaders in common.

            So the upper classes would claim their leaders were of divine origin. They would declare there was a birth which was conceived by a god and a mortal. Mythology and history are loaded with them and not all of these special creatures were leaders nor were they all bad. Some of the Most famous were the Greek Hercules and many Pharaohs were as well. The Romans declared some Emperors were this ‘special’ and since Jesus was arrested and executed for heresy, saying The real God was the highest of all, how could they be wrong (well, to the Roman way of thinking)? It is their justification for that crucifixion. It was one way to control the people and to justify their emperor/king’s extreme power over life and death so ancient cultures invented the demi-god by way of immaculate or divine conception. Well, that is history.

            The Prophets had some special help from God, including Elijah, but they all were only human. We either believe or we do not, it is totally up to us on that.

            You say “In essence in doctrine or in reality, like during the inquisition, an individual converted or died. That Baal type system is not of God. It actually forces people to sin against God specifically through Sabbath breaking and idolatry. Through this, nations, who once knew God, lost their identity and their contact with God”. 

            You mention the Sabbath. In Genesis it is specifically told that The Sabbath, according to God, is and always will be our seventh day of the week, we know it as Saturday, and God says to remember it and to keep it holly (repeated later in the Ten Commandants) as He rested on the seventh. When peoples or cultures were invaded and conquered they were forced to convert, for the purpose of cultural absorption, or be killed. Many ancient conquering nations did this and if the old Sabbath didn’t match their own that day was changed to conform.

            One of the many important things about Torah. With how Jews were scatted all over the known world and for so long, along will all the antisemitism they encountered, it is a wonder there are still Jews around. One special reasons Jews may have survived is their love for God and His laws. It kept Jews as Jews through the centuries even under all the hardships and even the evil Hitler couldn’t sway them. Torah is for ever because it has help maintain the survival of those who keep it but mostly because God says so. Torah has not been fulfilled and Haven and Earth are still here with us. Faith can be very powerful.

          • Samdromeda

            Yes.

          • macgyver1948

            I hope you know I meant “The Ancient Egyptians” and not “The Ancient Encryptions”. LOL.. I rushed my response to you from my WP for spelling and I missed that, LOL…

          • http://www.dog-gone-truth.com/bobmann101/DGT.aspx Robert Hamilton

            I understand what you are saying Yep here it comes……….but the Bible and Torah tells you to go out and preach his word and bring people into his fold not to be there to answer questions of only the interested. Jesus and his followers went about preaching and bringing people into his fold. Jesus died for his cause and so did a lot of his followers. That is one of the things that is required of a Christian.

          • macgyver1948

            Robert Hamilton… See if you can see what I responded to Samdromeda with. We Jews generally do not do the recruitment thing for several reasons. History shows some of them perhaps satrting with the Romans. I will repeat my personal reasons for not doing it by copy/past(ing) what I wrote to Samdromeda. By all means if it is a Christian thing go for it.

            I feel “I often wonder from history why Jews are hated especially by those who claim to be of God. They do not have to convert, we do not do the recruitment conversion thing for several reasons, one being it has to be know for sure that the person really wants to so it has to be their idea. But from my point of view the “ recruitment conversion thing” is insulting and disrespectful to the one being pursued because what are the “recruiters” actually saying if not “You need to convert to our ways because ours ways are so much better than yours and yours won’t work so become us and live”. Why else would any try to recruit if they didn’t believe that way so I won’t insult and disrespect people and we Jews do not unless that someone comes to a Rabbi and convinces the Rabbi he/she really wants to”. I could add “only our ways are right for all so you need to convert to our ways”.

            We Jews just do not believe that way so it has to be that persons choice all on their own from the start. I know of several conversions to Judaism and when the Rabbi’s were throughly convinced the rabbi was throughly there for that persons conversion, but not until.

            Robert, please let me know where in Torah it says we Jews should do this as a recruitment process. I will read that entire book on that to make sure it is not an out-of-context thing because I want to know.

  • harleydavidson

    John F. Kennedy said, “Ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country.”

    obama said, “You didn’t build that.”

    PRICELESS

  • John Beach

    Adding up all the lies and factoring in reasonable doubt for what we don’t know to be factually true about Obama, it is still the incredible gullibility and stupidity of the American people in electing him that stands out in stark contrast to them. I am nearly as afraid for the future of the country because of the stupidity of the electorate as I am because of the corruption and dishonesty of the politicians. Tragic, to say the least.

    • Gil

      John,Right on with that statement!!!!!!!!

  • http://www.dog-gone-truth.com/bobmann101/DGT.aspx Robert Hamilton

    This illegal, phony, lying, foreign national, Muslim became POTUS without doing anything , has no qualifications or eligible. Interesting how a man who cannot meet the requirements to be a FBI or CIA agent can be the leader of the free World?????????

    • Samdromeda

      You cannot believe what you just posted. But I am sure that it felt good to you.

      • macgyver1948

        Samdromeda…. LOL> It is hard for many to want to find truth when their hate is in their way. Name calling is how they deal with their weaknesses because that is easier than finding what is true. And it is also easier to let others think for them.

        I do not right away believe Obama on all he says (just because he says “it”) but I research his words as I did with the video many are saying O says “You didn’t build it” and left it like that all out-of-context because I would want to know the truth. That is how I discovered the true message Obama was telling. If Obama did say government built it for you and not you I wold be pissed at him too but he didn’t. Truth is totally missed by those who choose NOT to find it and/or to only listen to those who will distort it because of HATE.

        Don’t worry so much about what the hate mongers say if you do the research yourself and find what was really said.

        • http://bobmann101.124online.com bobmann101

          I am under the impression that you think this POTUS tells the truth. Like guaranteeing that the stimulus program would keep unemployment below 8 percent, this will be the most transparent admintration, and the list goes on and on and on and on with lie after lie after lie. As I said he did not lie, he just stated what he believes. Remember he has not earned anything his entire life. He has everything paid for his whole life. IN fact I believe he did not have to pay fot his weed and coke. Read “Dreams from my Father” then you will see he hates whites.

          • macgyver1948

            bobmann101… You said to me “I am under the impression that you think this POTUS tells the truth”. No Bob, I question the words of all politicians and then see how much I can find out concerning what they say – bot GOP and Dems. I am a issues person and I do not follow blindly what any party says. If I cannot find what I seek I do not automatically believe, I continue to wonder.

            Sorry but I do not see Obama as hating his mother, maybe he was not happy with her at times, and the rest of us whites. And if you believe he didn’t pay for his coke and weed then that is your right but who cares as long as he isn’t doing it now? That is not hurting anyone and he is being open about it. Not like the things (all the things Mitt hides from us and makes us wonder) Romney did, per his admission, which by Christian belief is for all eternity and Romney should be in prison for.

            I am talking about the Mormon practice of baptizing the dead, mostly Jews. That shows they, those that do it, have no respect for “Freedom of Religion” with that huge insult unless it agrees with how they choose to believe. That is an on going concern, not some youthful indiscretion no longer being practiced and didn’t hurt anyone but perhaps those who do it at that time. Baptisms performed on Dead, Jews and others, should be punishable by prison time and since baptism is considered for eternity by Christains it should not have a statute of limitations. A dozen or so years might just prevent that Immortal and anti-Constitutional practice from continuing. So we can pick and choose what we do not like about the other side if we like. Mostly I also do not like Romney for the strings Big business has all over him.

            I do not know Obama has not ever earned anything. Many are saying that. Many very wealthy do not earn anything. Many very wealthy are successful at what they do earn but with the help of some along the way. Obama chose politics and I am not sure any of them earn anything while they are “politicing”. My word as a verb so you wont find it in any dictionary I think, LOL.

          • http://www.dog-gone-truth.com/bobmann101/DGT.aspx Robert Hamilton

            Yes I agree. I did not say BHO hated his mother. I agree with you on Romney. I think the GOP does not want to win the presidency. I do believe that the US is slowly losing our status, because of the Media and politicak correctus. There was a time when there were countries who not like us too much, but they did respect us. Now they laugh at us, come here and slap us in the face with OUR Constitution. I am not looking forward to this election, if there is one. OOPS Gotta go L8R

          • macgyver1948

            Robert Hamilton… I like this response of yours. Were were hated by many but respected for our might and our money. Now the money has dipped in its credit and borrowing power and many have lost respect for us. You are right about that.

            There will be an election and I am not sure how things will work out if Obama doesn’t get a majority in the house and Senate or Romney, if he wins, doesn’t get the same. I very much believe, even with both their faults and weaknesses, we will be choosing the differences between their capitalisms. One is primarily for the big corporations and not us and the other is trying to show he is for both in his way. I also believe it will get tougher for us but no insurmountable for most of us. I fear for the unemployed and those needing Social Security and Medicare and who are justified in receiving.

            I have to wait to see how ObamaCare pans out in time so I can really see what is and isn’t. I know what I read and I see more good than bad in it but I do want nasty Romney things, such as “you will be fined by the IRS if you do not have insurance until you do”, taken out. The added taxes on huge real estate earnings I am still wondering about because they do go into effect on huge profits. We will see.

      • http://www.dog-gone-truth.com/bobmann101/DGT.aspx Robert Hamilton

        I do not post something I do not believe in. I believe in every word I stated. No it does not make me feel good. It makes me feel sad. Liberal’s cannot handle the truth. Makes them mad, when they cannot back up what they believe.

  • Linda Turner

    The big lie is why “conservatives” keep repeating the lie THEY created. Even after videos have played that (1) shows Obama’s full statement, that when he said “You didn’t build THAT,” he was referring to the infrastructure that businesses depend on; and (2) shows Romney repeating the exact same contention, that if you didn’t have that (the infrastructure), businesses couldn’t exist. Yet people intent not at revealing the truth, but in confusing and antagonzing the electorate, keep the lies going. Did you know that the factory owner in Mitt’s ad who asks, “I didn’t build this?” when he heard the four words “You didn’t build that,” later recanted and said he wasn’t aware of the context and the president’s other remarks, and agreed with what the president said. But no, Mitt Romney doesn’t want you to know that.

    • macgyver1948

      Linda Turner…. You are so right and what you say needs to be repeated here so more people realize what Root and Wood say are for the purpose of distorting the truth because that is what will build on their hate for Obama. And for any Christians who refuse to find what Obama really said, “the truth, all the truth, and nothing but truth”, as opposed to the TEA/Wood/Root version, for his entire speech have no business claiming they care for honesty and truth. Find out for yourselves and then do your own thinking.

  • The Harrytruth

    Obama Lies and misleads. That is all he has to run on, good luck with that. He can’t run on his record. If he was doing a good job he could say, I stopped earmarks. I lowered the deffest. I’v shown you every thing you asked for when it comes to the government. Like I told you I would for a transparent government. I’v removed czars from my administration. I’v stopped lobbyists in Washington. I’v never flip flopped on any of the things I’v told you. I’m a man of conviction. That is why I voted for him, but that isn’t the man he is. I made a bad chose. But he made it so convincing, I believed him, but not this time. November I will be voting for Romney.

    • pweiters9

      8/5/12, Ok Harry…….now rally everyone you know to defeat the Anointed One.

  • Mary in Wisconsin

    Let’s get one thing straight. The title of this article leads one to assume that President Obama told a lie, when in fact he did not lie about anything. The fact that far right wing extremists do not like him and will put their own personal spin on whatever he does or says is the problem. Far right wingers, isn’t it time to get over your impulses to make up things about President Obama?

    • http://www.dog-gone-truth.com/bobmann101/DGT.aspx Robert Hamilton

      Hey Mary,
      I agree this illegal, phony, lying foreign national, Muslim POTUS is just making a statement on how he believes. Isn’t it time for you left wingers start excepting the truth? That is his biggest enemy is the truth! He cannot qualify to be an agent in the FBI or CIA. He has not one qualification to be leader of the free world. He has been pampered, never had to work or go into the Military. All his expences have been paid for all his life. BTW, Mary what things have we right wingers made up about BHO that you can prove?

    • pweiters9

      8/5/12, And just what do you do for a living, Mary? Did you build [that]?

      • macgyver1948

        Mary in Wisconsin.. You are so very right. Just ignore those who would rather believe this hate then to find our what he really said.

  • DaveK

    why does everyone say Obama was talking about the government. He was talking about the United States. We built it. The fact that you start a business in The US gives you an opportunity not easy to find anywhere else.
    And if you succeed and make a lot of money, then you should pay more taxes because you have more to protect. You have more need of : military-to keep the soviets away from your treasure: police- to keep the local communists away from your treasure and OWSs away from your home: infrastructure- to roll your trucks full of your goods: and if you’re very successful, you’ll also need the congress to give you special tax breaks and subsidies to make it easier to keep the small business start ups from under charging and interfering with your profits.

  • CHRISTOPHER ALLEN HORTON

    I AM HAVING A TECHNICAL PROBLEM WITH THIS WEBPAGE. Personal Liberty’s HOMEPAGE SAYS THERE ARE CURRENTLY 569 COMMENTS IN THIS DISCUSSION. WHEN I CLICK ON THE PAGE IT SAYS THERE ARE 539 COMMENTS. WHERE ARE THE OTHER THIRTY COMMENTS? IT IS NOW, 10:44 PM (CENTRAL). AT 9AM THIS MORNING, THIS WEBPAGE HAD 539 COMMENTS. THIS NUMBER HAS NOT CHANGED ALL DAY – STRANGE.

    • CHRISTOPHER ALLEN HORTON

      SEVEN COMMENTS ARE STILL MISSING. I COUNTED THE COMMENTS MANUALLY. THE COMMENT-COUNTER INDICATES 562, INSTEAD OF, 569. MAYBE, THE COMMENT-COUNTER MALFUNCTIONED. I WILL DO ANOTHER MANUAL RE-COUNT.

      • http://bobmann101.124online.com bobmann101

        Why would anyone care????

  • DavidL

    Context is everything: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=htX2usfqMEs

    Romney asks, “Do we believe in an America that is great because of government?”

    The answer is yes. Our government has contributed to the greatness of our country in spectacular ways. Anyone who doesn’t see that is unaware of our history. Just like the SELF-EVIDENT point that Warren is making about the interconnectedness of us all in society, our nation would be a very different place if we had a different form of government.

  • CHRISTOPHER ALLEN HORTON

    “Bob Livingston,”

    SIR, THIS IS A CRITICAL OBSERVATION. BELIEVE ME, Mr. Livingston, I AM NOT TRYING TO TELL YOU HOW TO “RUN” YOUR SITE; THAT IS YOUR BUSINESS. I ONLY WANT TO STATE MY OPINION. I GREATLY APPRECIATE YOU ALLOWING ME TO PARTICIPATE ON YOUR SITE – I FULLY UNDERSTAND MY PARTICIPATION IS AT YOUR DISCRETION.

    FIRST, I WANT TO SAY, ALTHOUGH THIS THREAD HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH HOMOSEXUALITY, I WAS THE FIRST PERSON TO MENTION THE SUBJECT BECAUSE I WANTED TO PROVIDE A CLEAR RESPONSE TO ANOTHER COMMENTER ["pj Connolly"] WHO QUESTIONED MY RACE. I KNEW A CLEAR ANSWER WAS GIVEN BY ME IN THE “Gays in Boy Scouts-” THREAD, BY MENTIONING MY FORMER-CAUCASIAN PARTNER; SO, I REFERRED “Ms. Connolly” TO THAT THREAD.

    NOW, TO MY CRITICAL OBSERVATION. WHEN I LOOK AT THIS THREAD’S PAGE, I SEE THE ADVERTISEMENTS ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE SCREEN FOR “Gay Men Dating” AND “Meeting Black Singles” LINKS. YET, I DO NOT SEE THE HOMOSEXUAL LINKS IN THREADS IN WHICH HOMOSEXUALITY IS NOT MENTIONED. SO, Mr. Livingston MY POINT IS, THE ABSENCE OF THESE LINKS IN OTHER THREADS IMPLIES YOUR HOMOSEXUAL READERS ARE NOT INTERESTED IN THOSE THREADS.

    AGAIN, Mr. Livingston, I JUST WANTED TO “VOICE” MY OPINION. IF YOU WISH, YOU CAN IGNORE THESE COMMENTS.

    WITH GREAT SINCERITY,
    CHRISTOPHER ALLEN HORTON

    • http://www.dog-gone-truth.com/bobmann101/DGT.aspx Robert Hamilton

      We get your point. No need to hollar.

    • http://http//yahoo.com sophillyjimmy

      Christopher, if I may point out something that you referred to constantly in several of your comments, and that was that in the book Roots. You are correct that many Southern Africans’ became Muslims and many of them were also of the Jewish faith, others had many different faiths with many different gods that they worshipped, but that asside, please know that it was proven that the Book then the mini series Roots was a fictitious story written by Alex Haley which was loosely based on some facts of slavery in America but nobody that was mentioned in the movie was related to Alex Haley as he originally claimed, they were completely fictitious, and with the many tribes in Africa over 400 years ago, not very many were of the Muslim faith. When the book was written, the reason why Haley used the Muslim faith in the book was because many blacks at that time were becoming interested in the Muslim faith with the likes of Mohammed Ali, Kareem Abdul Jabar, Elijah Mohammed, and Malcom X speaking against the whites in America which they called “Blue Eyed Devils”. The selling of what was called back then the Balalian News on street corners along with Shabazz Bean Pies and also in all the prisons that allowed them to be sold, and to point one more thing out, in prisons The Nation Of Islam was also selling inmates X’s to use as their middle initials, so in essence, they were ripping off the inmates since the X meant nothing and was not a legal initial.
      You said that many people commenting in here do not really know black people, but i am one that does, since I worked for 15 years as a prison sergeant, and I did not only know the criminal element in the black race, I also was and still am friends with many of my fellow officers from both the prisons and also from the Police department that I transferred to from the prisons so I learned the good, the bad and the ugly of the black race as well as the white and Hispanic race in ways that frankly you will never know, and I am not saying this to insult you, I am just pointing out facts that can’t be denied since I should have been dead several times but survived deadly injuries from black inmates and I also was saved by black officers as well as saving the lives of black officers, inmates and civilians. I had a rapport with the blacks in the prisons and on the street because they all knew that I was honest and trustworthy, and when it came to the inmates of all colors they respected me because I respected them when it was deserved but I was stern when it was called for.
      I hope my explaining myself gives you an idea of what I do know about blacks in many walks of life.

      • CHRISTOPHER ALLEN HORTON

        “sophillyjimmy,”

        I HAVE NEVER HEARD Kunta Kinte WAS NOT Alex Haley’s ANCESTOR. I DO NOT CARE ENOUGH ABOUT Black History TO RESEARCH AND DISPUTE YOUR CLAIM. HOPEFULLY, SOMEONE ON THIS SITE WHO DOES CARE ABOUT Black History WILL CHALLENGE YOU. YET, I CAN SAY THIS, SIR – IF YOU ARE CORRECT (I GUARANTEE), THIS WOULD HAVE BEEN “BIG TIME-” NEWS IN THE NEGRO COMMUNITY; AND, IT WOULD HAVE SPREAD LIKE, “WILDFIRE.”

        I WILL CONTINUE TO CHECK THIS THREAD TO SEE IF SOMEONE CHALLENGES YOU; MAYBE, THIS PERSON CAN PROVIDE A WEB LINK.

        • Samdromeda

          The Moorish community does not debate such things with the so- called negro community. Frantz Fanon warned against the Negrotization of the black nations. It provides a doorway for objectification and genocide.

  • Dan

    Hey what was it? OH the taxpayers bailed Salt Lake olympics by how much?
    Only 1.2-2.3 BILLION. HONESTY IS A GOOD IDEA

  • revenids

    [you didn’t build that. Somebody else made that happen.]
    Listen, I always thank those that have helped me be successful along the way and am also thankful for all who helped make America free – I imagine everyone does. But I will only give God the glory for what I have succeeded in and I only give God the glory for being able to call America my home – no one else.
    We who believe in America’s ideals and our ancestors ethics of what America should be in order to remain free, plus those that were willing to fight for those freedoms – it was their determination and their love for God that made America what it is, not the other way around. America doesn’t need a hand out, or a bigger slice of our pie. She need to remember what made her great – She needs to be built up, starting with encouraging small businesses and leaving alone those who are willing to work hard to build up new businesses. Our President is killing businesses because of the amount of the profit he is calling for and the regulations that he demands – Just start asking accountants the real truth about what’s happening to small businesses all across this country. It reminds me of Chicago, where I lived when I was a kid, when if you didn’t pay an ever larger slice of your profits they would close you down… Oh yeah – that is where he is from, isn’t it? And now he wants to claim America for his own. How arrogant… It really sounds like something an egotistical teenager might say – will he ever grow up?

    I once lived in Chicago, but now I’m free
    I once was blind, but now I see

  • Wolf

    Christopher Allen Horton said:
    I). “Gay” – a male homosexual who is politically-active.
    II). “Lesbian” – a female homosexual who is politically-active.
    III). “Queer” – primarily, an effeminate-male homosexual who became politically-active after being upset by heterosexual nonchalance in reference to medical research [and, cure] for HIV-infection. “Queer” is also used for overtly-masculine female homosexuals who value a “protest approach” for solving problems.
    IV). “Queen” – an effeminate Negro male homosexual. Originally, “queen” referred to the practice of “vogue” – an artful display of Negro-male homosexuals mimicking the mannerisms of heterosexual Negro females. Currently, many Caucasian-male homosexuals who are effeminate also refer to themselves as, “queens.”

    They’re also called Pole-Smokers, Turd Burglars, fags, fairies……all terms meaning “moral degenerate”…

    • macgyver1948

      Chip Wood…. I agree, I too hope the truth of what Obama was saying in that speech, referencing what you say he says “you didn’t build that” always comes out, especially often before the election. :-))). That would be a good thing…

    • CHRISTOPHER ALLEN HORTON

      “Wolf,”

      SIR, YOU GET NO ARGUMENT FROM ME. HETEROSEXUALS HAVE A RIGHT TO BE BIASED AGAINST HOMOSEXUALS.

      YES – I AM SEXUALLY ATTRACTED TO MALES. IF I SEE A SEXY MALE IN PUBLIC, I DO NOT THINK ABOUT HIS ORIENTATION AT THAT POINT. BUT, THROUGHOUT MY LIFE, I HAVE ALWAYS BEEN RESPECTFUL OF MALE HETEROSEXUALS’ PRIVACY. THOSE “Don’t drop the soap” JOKES THAT MALE HETEROSEXUALS TELL DO NOT APPLY TO ME. INTIMACY SHOULD ALWAYS BE CONSENSUAL.

      I AM A NEGRO MALE IN AMERICA. I AM FORTY-FIVE-YEARS OLD. IF I HAD A DOLLAR FOR EVERY TIME SOMEONE CALLED ME, “faggot,” I MAY COULD BUY TWO OR THREE $.99 “Mickey D” BURGERS. IN THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, NEGRO MALES ARE VIEWED AS VIOLENT “THUGS” WHO KILL AND STEAL – SUCH ACTIVITIES ARE CONSIDERED “MASCULINE.” THEREFORE, HOMOSEXUALITY IS NEVER “LINKED” WITH VIOLENTLY-CRIMINAL BEHAVIOR.

      CAUCASIAN-MALE HOMOSEXUALS ARE THE ONES WHO FACE BIAS. MALE EFFEMINANCY IS ONE OF MY GREATEST BIASES. WANTING TO HAVE SEX WITH ANOTHER MALE DOES NOT MEAN I AM NOT A MAN. IT BOTHERS ME [SINCE I AM ATTRACTED TO HAIRY-CAUCASIAN MALES] THAT MANY CAUCASIAN-MALE HOMOSEXUALS “THROW-AWAY” THEIR MANHOOD BECAUSE THEY ARE TOO AFRAID TO SAY TWO LITTLE WORDS ["I'm gay"], TO THOSE WHO MATTER IN THEIR LIVES.

      I AM HOMOSEXUAL – NOT, “gay.”

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