The Liar King

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“So it is with a heavy heart that I assume the throne. Yet, out of the ashes of this tragedy, we shall rise to greet the dawning of a new era… in which lion and hyena come together, in a great and glorious future!” — Scar, the usurper in the 2004 Disney classic, “The Lion King”

My late mother used to say, “You can trust a thief, but you can’t trust a liar.” If President Barack Obama has proven anything over these five years of his insufferable Presidency, it is that he is a liar. Given the regal regard that he has for himself and his court (Administration), Obama is the Liar King. He was probably born in Africa, just as the character Scar. And like him, Obama has evil intentions on remaking the land he governs.

Recently, two of Obama’s biggest and boldest lies have fallen under a spotlight.

The Benghazi Attack

We know now more than ever that Obama lied about this attack after the Oct. 27 “60 Minutes” program. Interviewer Lara Logan sat down with insiders who confirmed that the bloody attack on the U.S. Consulate was a carefully planned al-Qaida terrorist operation — not a spontaneous event triggered by a YouTube video, as the Obama Administration had claimed. Chris Farrell, a member of Judicial Watch, which is suing for records of the Benghazi, Libya, attack, told OneNewsNow: “This 60 Minutes segment really stripped away all the doubletalk and outright lies,  It completely disassembles the Obama administration’s cover story, their lie about what they were doing.”

Obamacare

On this one, the President cannot hide behind the pantsuit of former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton or spread the blame as he has done with Benghazi. On this, the President let his titanic ego outweigh political caution.

On June 15, 2009, Obama said:

That means that no matter how we reform healthcare, we will keep this promise to the American people: If you like your doctor, you will be able to keep your doctor. Period. If you like your healthcare plan, you’ll be able to keep your healthcare plan. Period. No one will take it away, no matter what.

Obama knew then that he was flat-out lying. He was lying to a Nation coming out of an economic collapse. He was lying to a tired and worried people, telling them that he was Santa Claus and that he would provide all the medical coverage they needed while cutting the national debt at the same time. Both were flat-out lies, and he knew it.

Of course he had a special reason to lie to the American public. It made him look good, and it would give him the progressive legacy that his ego so demands.

“If Obama could succeed where Truman, Johnson, Clinton and both Roosevelts failed, some officials contended he would have a historic legacy. He would accomplish a goal that the progressives had dreamed of, debated for, and demanded for more than a century. He would be the greatest progressive in American history. He would forever be the one who got it done,” wrote Richard Minter in his book, Leading From Behind: The Reluctant President and the Advisors Who Decide for Him.

To accomplish this, he had to become an adroit liar. It seems to come naturally to Obama — lying about his birthplace, lying to get into the best collages, lying to win the Presidency and even lying about his religious faith.

Last week, Bob Barr condensed Obama’s lies for Townhall under the headline, “Barack Obama: America’s Commander-in-Deceit”:

Obama lied about Black Panther voter intimidation in Philadelphia. He lied about his Administration’s role in “Operation Fast and Furious.” He lied about using the Department of Justice to intimidate journalists. He lied about NSA wiretapping. He lied about using drone strikes to kill American citizens overseas.

Then there is one of my favorites because it was so easy to spot. While in Africa in June, Obama said that National Security Agency leaker Edward Snowden was not a priority in his mind and that he wouldn’t be “wheeling and dealing” to get Snowden extradited back to the United States.

When I heard Obama say that on the nightly news, I turned to my wife and said, “He’s lying!” Sure enough, in early August, Obama was so outraged that Snowden was granted asylum in Russia that he canceled a summit with Russian President Vladimir Putin.

By The Time America Wakes Up To The Truth, It May Be Too Late

Bob Woodward, the greatest reporter of his generation and the man that helped bring down Republican President Richard Nixon understands politicians and their lies. According to Woodward, who has been accused of being a “liberal icon,” the White House is a nest of lies and the apex of the Obama Administration’s “secret world” operates with impunity and outside the rule of law. Woodward, who has spent more than six years covering candidate and President Obama, concludes that Obama has created a cabal whose authority comes from “concealment and lies.”

So far, I’ve touched on only the lies we know. Yet if experience tells us that if a person will lie about some things, he will probably lie about a great many things — especially if it has been so rewarding to do so.

I believe this to be the truth: Obama is a fraud born in Kenya and protected by progressives and the mainstream media because he is the first black President. I believe Obama is determined to inject Islam and its Marxist tenants into America the way Adolf Hitler infected Germany with National Socialism. I believe Obama will use further lies to accomplish his egomaniacal goals, which may include remaining President beyond 2016.

If I sound deranged, read history. Some of the best and brightest of the 1930s, men like Joseph Kennedy and Charles Lindbergh, were convinced Hitler was an ideal leader for a new and progressive Germany. What hundreds of millions of people did not realize was the evil inherent in a dictator who was first democratically elected.

America is going through a tragedy right now, the kind that Shakespeare wrote. I could have referenced one of his plays, “Macbeth” perhaps. Yet I have always found Shakespeare too highbrow for my taste.  What makes Disney stupendous at storytelling is the way it distills Shakespeare to an easy essence and then gives it a happy ending. I write to you today also wanting a happy ending for a great people who deserve it: Americans who have been deceived by this president, by this Liar King.

Yours in good times and bad,

–John Myers

Personal Liberty

John Myers

is editor of Myers’ Energy and Gold Report. The son of C.V. Myers, the original publisher of Oilweek Magazine, John has worked with two of the world’s largest investment publishers, Phillips and Agora. He was the original editor for Outstanding Investments and has more than 20 years experience as an investment writer. John is a graduate of the University of Calgary. He has worked for Prudential Securities in Spokane, Wash., as a registered investment advisor. His office location in Calgary, Alberta, is just minutes away from the headquarters of some of the biggest players in today’s energy markets. This gives him personal access to everyone from oil CEOs to roughnecks, where he learns secrets from oil insiders he passes on to his subscribers. Plus, during his years in Spokane he cultivated a network of relationships with mining insiders in Idaho, Oregon and Washington.

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  • http://opinionated-american.com/ Opinionated American

    I am no conspiracy theorist. But to have so much controversy over a birth document makes me wonder if he is American born. Maintaining presidency past 2016? Don’t thinks so. Obama’s popularity poll is record low for any president in history. PLUS! Obama has to overturn the 22nd amendment. STILL! has to be voted in again. No American president can be elected for a life term. Until Obama is out. He can inject tyrannic laws that can allow him false powers to destroy freedoms.
    I do see a big false flag happening so he can maintain his power Like 9/11/2001

    Martial law. However the military will uphold the constitutional oath but they be reluctant to enforce his laws
    Hitler used his second Himmler (like Holder) to enforce laws created. That is the danger I see happening. Obama is the liar king.

    Unfortunately Obama will blab that horse crap to the end of his term. A white majority of senate and congress will not impeach the first black president. The African Americans will see this as a white lynch mob. (Yes racial backlash.) and riot and those who impeached Obama political careers are over.

    Race baiters like Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson will make sure of that.
    Our best defense is to empower the GOP in 2014.
    If not the progress the true progressives want will be lost. America will be lost.
    “F”- The Liar King!

    • paulrph1

      Everyone claims they do not believe in a conspiracy and they are quick to admit it. Our great press has labeled anyone who thinks there is a conspiracy as demonic. But remember it is the press that is leading the charge. When G. H. W. Bush says it is time for a NWO are we to believe in a conspiracy? America will not, I mean, cannot exist in a NWO and they know that. If they get people to say there is no conspiracy then they can continue to lead them down the primrose path to hell.

      • podunk1

        not directed at opinion… or paul… we gree, but…

        All else aside, Obama is a psychopathic liar. The only thing “sicker” than that is the rino progressives trying to say he isn’t a literal damn liar. It’s legitimate name calling – where there is an instinctive thing about animals that value their lives – to cry wolf when they really see one. Obama and his progressive army within are destroying this once wonderful nation! WAKE UP AND TRY TO SAVE AMERICA!!!

    • Sam

      It’s worse than a fake birth certificate. Obama is a Muslim and he is loyal to the Saudis and other Sunni Muslims. Watch Avi Lipkin on You Tube. He knows a lot about what the Muslims say about obama, who told the Saudis that after he takes care of the healthcare thing, “you will see what I do about Israel for you”. Messing with Israel will bring doom to America. We are commanded to bless Israel and be blessed or curse her and be cursed. History shows this is true.

      • David Stovall

        The birth certificate lists the father as African , as his race. African is not a race. Not a medical term. The three races are Negroid, Caucasoid, and Mongoloid. White Germans in South Africa are African so “African” cannot medically inform about race., only the country. . Back in the time, medical personnel would have no trouble listing Negro or Negroid. But now, it is not politically correct. That is why I think it was written in current times by a PC liberal and not by medical personnel at the time of birth. In fact, I think the race of mother is listed as Caucasoid, but the PC forger could not bring himself to say Negro for the fathers race.

        • Elevenarrows

          I have an elderly friend that used to work in Vital Records (birth and death certificates). She insists that Obama’s birth certificate does not resemble what a Hawaiian birth certificate would have looked like at the time of his birth. She has also said what you have about his father’s race.
          I’ve also wondered if he was born in America, but lied to get aid as a foreign student. Of course, if that were the case, you would expect him to just reveal his true birth certificate and lie his way out of student aid fraud.

      • Muffin Man Mashinksy

        Though much of the evidence that he was not born here is circumstantial, there is a ton of it, though! But, whether he was born here or not, he is not a part of the mandala of this nation & therefore does not cherish freedom, liberty, free enterprise, etc…all the great things the Founders put forth! He has crapped & spit on their graves & legacies!!

        • JeffH

          Yet no more circumstantial than the idea that he was born in Hawaii.
          There has been no concrete evidence that Obama was born in Hawaii other than someone in government telling us that. There has been no “certified” COLB or legitimate birth certificate presented to prove otherwise. The COLB posted online at the WH website was admitted in court to be a forgery by Obama’s own eligibility lawyer, Alexandra Hill.

    • TheOriginalDaveH

      Once you come to the realization that Government is just a very large self-serving Gang, everything they do will become clear.
      Read this fascinating history of the New World and Colonial America to learn things the Public Propaganda Schools didn’t want you to know:
      http://mises.org/books/conceived1.pdf
      http://mises.org/books/conceived2.pdf
      http://mises.org/books/conceived3.pdf
      http://mises.org/books/conceived4.pdf

      “To say governments were formed to protect the rights of men would be historically incorrect. Almost all governments were formed by ruthless men exerting their will over others through the use of force. Some governments, over time, evolved toward the rule of law, perhaps only because their rulers saw that this would sanction their own continued enjoyment of the wealth that they possessed. In some instances, this evolution involved one or more “revolutions” in which those who were governed were able to better establish the rule of law”. — Clifford Thies
      http://mises.org/daily/3427

  • David Stovall

    I am watching Bill O’Reilly , and as usual he bends over in contortions to give Obama the benefit of the doubt about being a liar. But there is no doubt, because Obama is now comes out with a huge , blatant lie about the lie. He says now that what he said is not what he said. You can say he didn’t know that we can’t keep our policies, but you can’t now say that he doesn’t know what he said.

    • vicki

      Since he just reads the teleprompter maybe he really doesn’t know what he said.

      • David Stovall

        And he runs the country. Make that ruins the country. And now your health care.

      • JeffH

        Good point!

    • Sam

      That is exactly why I don’t watch Reilly. We are past political correctness. We are fighting for our country and only the truth will set us free.

      • Nadzieja Batki

        Sam, it is not political correctness that O’Reilly or the Fox are working from. O’Reilly and Fox are typical stupids that think it is good to invite the wolves into the sheep pen in spite of the fact that they are wolves and the sheep will not be safe. So the question is, do O’Reilly and Fox believe the wolves will behave differently because they come on their station?

        • Vis Fac

          They are there to give the wolves enough room to hang themselves. I’ve seen several instances where those wolves had been trapped and struggle to escape and the harder they try to escape the tighter the trap gets.

          Anytime a conservative can cause liberal women to leave a TV panel (The View) is cause for celebration

          To sit back hoping that someday, some way, someone will make things right is to go on feeding the wolf, hoping he will eat you last – but eat you he will.

          You don’t have to be a Marine to make a difference the only requirement is being truly patriotic and the willingness to back it up!!!

          Libertas inaestimabilis res est
          Semper-Fi

          • vicki

            It is the same reason we ask PLD to keep our collection of liberals around. We want the world to see how they are.

          • Vis Fac

            They are more than proud to expound the less than virtuous tenet of their handlers PLD is not the only forum you’ll find these morons.

            To sit back hoping that someday, some way, someone will make things right is to go on feeding the wolf, hoping he will eat you last – but eat you he will.

            You don’t have to be a Marine to make a difference the only requirement is being truly patriotic and the willingness to back it up!!!

            Libertas inaestimabilis res est
            Semper-Fi

    • Vis Fac

      I’ve noticed Mr. O’Reilly does give the benefit of the doubt at least he isn’t a hypocrite. Too bad the same cannot be said about our liberal friends!!!

      To sit back hoping that someday, some way, someone will make things right is to go on feeding the wolf, hoping he will eat you last – but eat you he will.

      You don’t have to be a Marine to make a difference the only requirement is being truly patriotic and the willingness to back it up!!!

      Libertas inaestimabilis res est
      Semper-Fi

  • Sam

    Sure, obama is a liar. I don’t understand why people still believe him. I have one poster reply to one of my posts and he was defending obama saying that none of what is said about him is true. The liberal still defend this useless pos. I don’t get it. I suppose when they are living in the woods because there is no jobs and no place to live, he might believe me.

    • Vis Fac

      Don’t you know that OMNIPOTENT Half Black Men NEVER Lie???

      To sit back hoping that someday, some way, someone will make things right is to go on feeding the wolf, hoping he will eat you last – but eat you he will.

      You don’t have to be a Marine to make a difference the only requirement is being truly patriotic and the willingness to back it up!!!

      Libertas inaestimabilis res est
      Semper-Fi

    • http://www.rt.com Alondra

      Sam: “The liberal still defend this useless pos. I don’t get it.”

      Sam, read this book: The Liberal Mind: The Psychological Causes of Political Madness by Lyle H. Rossiter, Jr, MD

      “…CHARACTER, which term also implies dispositions to behave with HONESTY, INTEGRITY, RESPONSIBILITY, SELF-DIRECTION and DEPENDABILITY in interactions with others. Among other things, persons with good character typically keep promises and honor contracts, respect the sovereignty of other persons and their ownership of property, and in so far as possible, TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR THEMSELVES BY PROVIDING FOR THEIR OWN NEEDS and the needs of those to whom they have assumed some voluntary obligation. Persons with character DO NOT MAKE legally enforceable claims on the time, effort or material assets of other persons. They do not feel entitled to be subsidized by persons with whom they have no prior personal relationship or contractual duty.” (Quote on Character from the book)

      Does it match the Liar-in-Chief’s character?

      And watch this: The ex-liberal explains How Modern Liberals “Think”

      • Sam

        Thank you for the recommendation. I have the book on my list and I will order it soon. I do know that liberals are people who want to remake the world in their image instead of what God has in mind for us. This is why their ideas are always failures.

  • KG

    If a politician promises something, it is more of a policy statement that what you will expect from whatever office the politician is pursuing. For that ‘promise’ is dependent on the ability of the politician to enact it. If it is dependent on a congresses approval, then it cannot be a ‘promise’ in the literal sense.

    I guess Republican/Right wing/Libertarians/Nazis think that every promise a candidate makes must be fulfilled in order to be legitimate. If that were so, thank G-d Goldwater didn’t get elected or we would be all dead from nuclear war with the Soviets.

    So far. anything that the Republican/Right wing/Libertarians/Nazis think is a “lie” seems to be more of a disagreement of policy that an actual “Categorical Inaccuracy” as Gerald Ford would put it. The biggest lies are “…the checks in the mail…” and “..I won’t ejaculate in your mouth…”

    • WTS/JAY

      KG: The biggest lies are “…the checks in the mail…” and “..I won’t ejaculate in your mouth…Hope and change…you can keep your doctor…If you like your health insurance plan, you can keep it…the NSA is not abusing its power…I said benghazi was a terrorist attack from the beginning…we got back every dime we used to rescue the financial system…I think it’s important for us to understand that the Fast and Furious program was a field-initiated program begun under the previous administration…my budget will cut the deficit by $4 Trillion over 10 years…you didn’t build that…ObamaCare fee is not a new tax…we shouldn’t mandate the purchase of health care…I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States.

      • Warrior

        Obviously, there are plenty of “apparatchik’s”, like kg, who condone lying as a key component of their ideology.

        • TheOriginalDaveH

          What is a little lying to murderers and thieves?

          • KG

            Almost the same as seeing ‘Merit” in fascist governments.

          • WTS/JAY

            Should we start calling Obama Mussolini?

          • Vis Fac

            A prevaricating Muslimini would be more apropos!!!

            To sit back hoping that someday, some way, someone will make things right is to go on feeding the wolf, hoping he will eat you last – but eat you he will.

            You don’t have to be a Marine to make a difference the only requirement is being truly patriotic and the willingness to back it up!!!

            Libertas inaestimabilis res est
            Semper-Fi

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            Fascist, Communist, Socialist — It really doesn’t matter what philosophy the Gang practices. The problem is that they’re taking advantage of the rest of the people.

          • rocketride

            You seem to see “merit” in this one.

        • rocketride

          “The ends justify the means.” Oldest saying in the Marxist playbook.

        • vicki

          In the muslim ideology it is perfectly ok to lie to non muslim.

      • Vis Fac

        Facts to a liberal/socialist/communist are those that are pulled out of thin air and or provided by lame stream media to swathe their ineptness on all things rational.
        Liberal/socialist/communist one dimensional idiot-ology dictates they make things up as they go so they can blame others for their failures and nothing is ever ODUMBO’s or the
        DUMBOCRITES fault.

        So whenever they have trouble defending and/or nothing to
        substantiate their positions they simply fall back on the FBABO (Federal Board for Assigning Blaming to Others) or citing lame stream media’s partial/fabricated truths and prevarications; then all their liberal/socialist/communist inadequacies are soon considered ancient history becoming non issues and then quickly forgotten

        To sit back hoping that someday, some way, someone will make things right is to go on feeding the wolf, hoping he will eat you last – but eat you he will.

        You don’t have to be a Marine to make a difference the only requirement is being truly patriotic and the willingness to back it up!!!

        Libertas inaestimabilis res est
        Semper-Fi

    • Ried

      It depends on what you mean by the word “is”.

      And why do you think we would have had a nuclear war under Goldwater? Or right, those frightening LBJ ads during the campaign. An excellent source for insightful meaningful analysis and information. USSR was not ready for a true showdown with someone that would stand up to them, look at how Kennedy handled the Cuban missile affair.

      • rocketride

        Well, Stalin apparently had been ready to provoke a nuclear war, but Khrushchev, Beria, and a couple of others put a stop to that in April ’53. By the ’60s, saner heads had prevailed. . .

    • S.C.Murf

      kg you also are a lair. You keep covering up for obama and you know what they say (birds of a feather)

      up the hill
      airborne

    • Vigilant

      KG, if you aspire to become the court propagandist, you should at least have some rudimentary training in logic and the English language.

      Those of us with at least a normal intelligence fully understand the difference between the “policy” pronouncements of a candidate and the cover-up lies about a program already in existence.

      When Bush I said “read my lips, no new taxes,” he was, as you say, making “a policy statement [of] what you will expect from whatever office the politician is pursuing.” When the new taxes did come to pass, he did not say, “your taxes have not increased.”

      Obama has done both of those things. It was AFTER the bill was signed into law that Obama continued (and STILL continues) to brazenly lie about the specifics of a statute that already exists. That’s called “lying.”

      Americans may be slow to recognition, but generally are not as obtuse or delusional as you, in calling a spade a spade. NO SPIN whatsoever can change the fact hat he has lied, and continues to do so. Hell, even the fawning MSM now sees what you refuse to admit, KG.

    • TheOriginalDaveH

      Cagey says — “I guess Republican/Right wing/Libertarians/Nazis think that every promise a candidate makes must be fulfilled in order to be legitimate”.
      No, Cagey, they just think that the issuer of the promise should make an effort to keep that promise. But then, how would we expect people like yourself, who have no qualms about taking other people’s money, to give a rat’s butt about honesty?

    • Frank Kahn

      Wrong, if he lies, intentionally, it is a lie. It is not a policy statement to say you can keep your doctor and insurance. It is a promise. If he knew it was not going to be true, then he lied.

      • rocketride

        And if he didn’t know, he has the wits of a sea-slug.

    • rocketride

      And we’re supposed to take seriously a person who is either too dim to comprehend that Nazis, being a variety of socialist, have no business being mentioned alongside (and equivalently with) those other groups you mentioned, or does comprehend this and is willing to lie about it? (That would be you, BTW)

      “. . . I won’t ejaculate in your mouth. . .”
      I bet you’ve repeatedly fallen for that one.

      • Jana

        KG believes in Communism and Socialism so what else would you expect? He has admitted it many times.

        • rocketride

          That was a rhetorical question. :)

          • Jana

            Sorry, that wasn’t a rhetorical answer, it was the truth.

          • rocketride

            You’re obviously right. Just because a question was rhetorical doesn’t mean someone can’t go and answer it.

      • Vis Fac

        KGB has told nothing but lies I have caught and challenged him on several occasions.

        This has upset him to the point of him telling me he has forwarded my posts to the NSA (which I see as tantamount to crying to his mommie) and yet one more lie.

        To sit back hoping that someday, some way, someone will make things right is to go on feeding the wolf, hoping he will eat you last – but eat you he will.

        You don’t have to be a Marine to make a difference the only requirement is being truly patriotic and the willingness to back it up!!!

        Libertas inaestimabilis res est
        Semper-Fi

        • rocketride

          I’ve been noticing his verbal incontinence for a while, now. And shaking my head.

      • KG

        The Nazis were not socialists. They were Nationalists which meant that whatever Government programs they would have it would benefit the nation, or in Germany;s case, the Race. Nazis hated ‘liberals’ and worshiped Military service. The Nazis were in no sense ‘socialists’ as we would define the term today.

        • rocketride

          What part of “Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei” (“National Socialist German Workers’ Party”– abbreviated.”NSDAP” or “Nazi”) eludes your comprehension?
          I am forced to conclude that you are completely stupid. What freakish, mutant definition of “socialist” have you swallowed?

          • KG

            If you actually did a little bit of research, you would understand where the “sozialistische” of the NSDAP came from. Anton Drexler, the man who actually created the group that Hitler was sent to spy on, wanted a ‘social’ movement that didn’t involve any elements of what he felt was the real threat to Germany – Communism. He realized that in order to get support from the people he would have to include some kind of social reform. The first name of this group was “German Socialist Worker’s Party” but this name was rejected due to the objection of Karl Harrer who was a journalist as well as a member of the secret Thule society. So to compromise the two positions the name of the group “German Workers’ Party” or DAP was amended to NSDAP to reflect their need to be attractive to the masses. While their name would be recognized in public as the Nazis, their actual goals were anything but ‘socialistic’ in nature.

          • rocketride

            In what way did they fail to be proper socialists? They offered all of the usual social benefits to those of their population they deemed worthy (and a free train ride and other “benefits” to those they didn’t)– Just like the Marxists. The anti-semitism? The Soviets were scarcely less anti-semitic than the Nazis, especially during the Stalin years.

            They differed not at all in their view of the individual (other than themselves, of course) as being of minuscule importance next to the concerns of the State.

            The only important way the fascists really differed from Marxists is that fascists realized early on that Marxist-style direct ownership of what Marx called the “means of production”, with its extremely centralized planning and studied ignorance of price signals, was inefficient in the short term and utterly unworkable in the medium to long term. They substituted a less direct system of control over the productive sector of the economy. The means of production had private owners who were constrained in a web of regulations to the point that all of the really important decisions were really being made by the politicians and bureaucrats anyway. (This constraint was not entirely unwelcomed by those owners because it offered something that a mentally lazy factory or mine owner craves– protection from competition.)

            You still haven’t answered my question. What’s your definition of “socialism”?

    • Vis Fac

      Did you just escape from the asylum? Your blathering hydrophobic foaming at the mouth soliloquy imparted absolutely nothing, and if you were trying to impress me (or anyone else) with your inane prattle you failed miserably. I regard you as nothing more than an insect to be ignored or stepped on. I won’t step on you because I don’t want to ruin my shoes.

      I am somewhat tolerant of you because it is the decent thing to do because of your handicap of being a cerebrally necrotic liberal which; is not at all like liberal tolerance that DEMANDS that we do things the one dimensional liberal way.
      The fact you continually open yourself to ridicule suggests a latent need for attention. I suspect you were abandoned by your parents because you were such a disappointment to them and thus have continued to this day disappointing even yourself. You crave attention even negative attention.

      To sit back hoping that someday, some way, someone will make things right is to go on feeding the wolf, hoping he will eat you last – but eat you he will.

      You don’t have to be a Marine to make a difference the only requirement is being truly patriotic and the willingness to back it up!!!

      Libertas inaestimabilis res est
      Semper-Fi

      • KG

        Love you too, Bro!

        • Vis Fac

          You only love yourself as all narcissistic people do.

          To sit back hoping that someday, some way, someone will make things right is to go on feeding the wolf, hoping he will eat you last – but eat you he will.

          You don’t have to be a Marine to make a difference the only requirement is being truly patriotic and the willingness to back it up!!!

          Libertas inaestimabilis res est
          Semper-Fi

          • KG

            Matthew 7:3-5
            King James Version (KJV)
            3 And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother’s eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?
            4 Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye?
            5 Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother’s eye.

          • Vis Fac

            And now we have KGB the quintessential hypocrite quoting scripture now don’t that take the cake?

            To sit back hoping that someday, some way, someone will make things right is to go on feeding the wolf, hoping he will eat you last – but eat you he will.

            You don’t have to be a Marine to make a difference the only requirement is being truly patriotic and the willingness to back it up!!!

            Libertas inaestimabilis res est
            Semper-Fi

    • Robert Messmer

      You need to keep up with the playbook, KG. The Democrats don’t lie, they simply mis-speak because they say so much every day they don’t have to time to make sure every single word is correct. At least that was the claim made by Hillary “What Difference Does It Make” Clinton on an occasion when an interviewer asked her why she lied about being under fire in Bosnia.

      • KG

        That’s not the point. What is at issue here is the fact that because a politician promises something doesn’t make it a binding contract. Bush promised all kinds of jobs and prosperity from his tax cuts and look at what happened? Are you going to give up on the GOP just because tax cuts don’t work?

        BTW – When Hillary Clinton visited Bosnia, any western official was ‘open season’ from snipers in the area. So don’t knocker her too much for that. Besides, when was the last time you visited a foreign country with people hostile to Americans?

  • dan

    lies ans spies …our government has been infiltrated by our common enemy
    and is in great peril of being brought down by foreign agents aka the pResident
    and his handlers and accomplices. Sabotagge and looting the economy is one thing,
    but to provide aid and comfort to the enemy, even if by inaction , is treason.

  • Warrior

    And to think this guy lost a bid for a congressional seat against booby rush. Absolutely amazing. The cabal in crook county then had to line him up to run “unopposed” for a u.s. senate seat. This “dude” has had his “hand” out forever and has no accomplishments, none! Anyone living outside of crook county ill-annoy and voted for this guy is absolutely clueless.

  • TheOriginalDaveH

    Even the Liberals are turning against Obamacare:

    • Vis Fac

      The only time a liberal turns against his handler is when he’s backed into a corner. By then the damage has been done because that liberal is a product of one dimensional indoctrination camps that has been dumbed down to the point of being functionally illiterate. He has no skills or enough “proper” education to make it on his own and has now become a ward of the state and MUST accept what the government wants him to have.

      To sit back hoping that someday, some way, someone will make things right is to go on feeding the wolf, hoping he will eat you last – but eat you he will.

      You don’t have to be a Marine to make a difference the only requirement is being truly patriotic and the willingness to back it up!!!

      Libertas inaestimabilis res est
      Semper-Fi

  • TheOriginalDaveH

    The Liberal Program 60 Minutes has turned on Obama? I smell a rat.

    • JeffH

      Ya think? LMAO!
      Well DaveH, it won’t be long before they start shilling for a new 2016 Messiah…the wife of the adultress “I did not have sexual relations with that women” Bill Clinton.

      • TheOriginalDaveH

        What’s a little infidelity between psychopaths?

        • WTS/JAY

          Or murder for that matter!

    • http://www.rt.com Alondra

      They will be fired.

  • Muffin Man Mashinksy

    I do believe the worst lie he told was that he was not friends with unrepentant domestic terrorist, Bill Ayers & his wife. The fact is that Obummer was close with Ayer’s whole commie American-hating family & wrote a book with him & shared the same BS philosophy about blaming Western Free Enterprise Whitey for everything wrong in world ….McCain The Lame & Insane should have pounded him on this & the Wrong Rev. Wright over & over & over & over everyday!!!!! This is what Plain wanted to do, but they would not listen to her

  • Jana

    Pinocchio I mean Obama’s approval rating has finally dipped to 39%. I am surprised it has taken this long and I am surprised it is still that high, with all of the scandals and the lies about these scandals that he has told.
    Now he is lying about his own lies and he never knows anything, and no one has ever or ever will be held accountable for anything during his reign of shame.
    .
    Obama has disgraced this country by being fraudulent, deceitful and has had the most secretive administration ever, while running on the promise of having the most open administration ever. Of course, now we know that was just another one of his great lies of deception that has been proven out too.

    Then we have him bragging in a book that he is really good at murdering people? This came out last night on Megan Kelly on Fox News. We know he is good at murder. He as good as murdered Ambassador Stephens and the 3 other men that were fighting to help him.

    Obama is not going to go down just as the worst President ever. He is going to go down with several legacies.

    The most accomplished liar.
    The best murderer. (His own bragging)
    The most deceitful.
    The most EVIL.
    The most VAIN President ever.

    • Sue Breslin

      And the scary part is that there are STILL people out there defending him. Even on Hannity last night the discussion got very loud at times when audience members defended him about Obamacare. So unbelievable.

      • Muffin Man Mashinksy

        Those are the souls who love all he wants to giveaway…see muy post above….not so incomprehensible for those to defend OBOZO!

        • Sue Breslin

          I read it and its just amazes me how people become sheeple. Does it not bother them to have an individual thought, to be self thinkers, to contemplate on an idea and form your own conclusion. I was educated on our great philosophers, Plato, Socrates et al, and always prided my thinking to them. Its just so sad…..

          • Jana

            The ones who are the gimme people or who have their hands out are taught to live on the Governments dime. These people think it is Obama’s dime now. They are also taught to say you are racist if you dare say anything to disagree with this way of life, for that is what it has become, a way of life. Forget about the ‘pursuit of happiness’, it is now the demand for yours and my money to be given to them. Why? Because the Democrats have methodically programmed them to think this way. Why?

            watch Agenda
            http://vimeo.com/63749370

          • Sue Breslin

            I have watched Agenda and have passed it on to at least 10 other people with the hope they will continue the passing. Agenda should be a top history subject in every school. Oh wait, it was, at one time during my schooling (history and government)…mmmmmn that was 55 years ago. We had to actually read each amendment, memorize it and be able to identify what amendment belonged to what content the teacher threw out at us. (What amendment gives us the right to free speech?) How many amendments apply to life liberty and pursuit of happiness? What does that mean? What is liberty? Do you think the kids of today could answer that?

    • Vis Fac

      It appears that 8% of the 47% on the government dole have been effected to the point of wanting “change” as they certainly haven’t been moving “forward” of late.

      As long as the freebies keep coming there will be ODUMBO supporters even dumbed down people know it’s not smart to bite the hand that feeds them. Unfortunately they only watch the hand that feeds them and ignore the hand that is taking their rights from them.

      To sit back hoping that someday, some way, someone will make things right is to go on feeding the wolf, hoping he will eat you last – but eat you he will.

      You don’t have to be a Marine to make a difference the only requirement is being truly patriotic and the willingness to back it up!!!

      Libertas inaestimabilis res est
      Semper-Fi

  • TheOriginalDaveH

    “the White House is a nest of lies and the apex of the Obama Administration’s “secret world” operates with impunity and outside the rule of law. Woodward, who has spent more than six years covering candidate and President Obama, concludes that Obama has created a cabal whose authority comes from “concealment and lies.””.
    Well at least, unlike most of the other Presidents who used their office to enrich themselves and their Crony Capitalists, Obama has kept his promise to be “transparent”.
    We should thank him. He has done more than any President before him to wake people up to the reality of Big Government — They aren’t there for You, They are there for themselves. They throw people crumbs (other people’s crumbs) to get their votes and their compliance. That is all.
    Thank you, Obama, for waking up the nation.

    • Muffin Man Mashinksy

      Yeah, but those who suck on Uncle Sam’s teats & depend on him for everything love him like no other before!!!

    • Jana

      The only thing is he didn’t mean for it to be transparent. He thought he would snow the people, but he didn’t count on all of the people not being so gullible or as stupid as he thought they were. Some of the people are as stupid and gullible as he thought they were, 39% of them are. Look at KG, he still is.

      • TheOriginalDaveH

        KGB isn’t stupid. He is a Shill Propagandist. He is Evil, but not stupid.

        • Jana

          You won’t even buy gullible LOL.??

          Actually, I agree with you 150%!

        • Vis Fac

          I beg to differ one can be educated and still be stupid for ascribing to a destructive doctrine as KGB has done. To ruin you own legacy and cede your freedoms to an idealist is the epitome of being stupid!!!!!!

          To sit back hoping that someday, some way, someone will make things right is to go on feeding the wolf, hoping he will eat you last – but eat you he will.

          You don’t have to be a Marine to make a difference the only requirement is being truly patriotic and the willingness to back it up!!!

          Libertas inaestimabilis res est
          Semper-Fi

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            Cagey knows darn well what he’s doing, Force. He’s one of the takers.

          • Vis Fac

            That’s why I say he’s not stupid he’s just a parasitic leech.

            He knows better but won’t admit that being on the dole is bad for the nation, As a socialist Marxist communist he believes he is owed for being alive.

            At one time my eldest son thought he was owed. So he decided that since I wouldn’t enable his indolence he would party with others of his ilk and collect welfare. It didn’t take but three months of that nonsense to set his little butt straight. I don’t put up with foolishness and certainly wont support anyone who won’t work to better himself.

            To sit back hoping that someday, some way, someone will make things right is to go on feeding the wolf, hoping he will eat you last – but eat you he will.

            You don’t have to be a Marine to make a difference the only requirement is being truly patriotic and the willingness to back it up!!!

            Libertas inaestimabilis res est
            Semper-Fi

          • WTS/JAY

            We should start calling him Dr. Evil…muaha ha ha ha…

        • JeffH

          You are correct about KG. Anything to get a rise…and as transparent about it as Obama is too!

        • rocketride

          I would suggest that believing something that strongly despite massive contrary evidence is a form of stupidity. That doesn’t preclude the element of evil from being in play. Frankly, I suspect that that form of stupidity is a major cause or, at least, a major entry point for evil. Ever noticed that evil always has a blind spot or three?

  • Muffin Man Mashinksy

    He has gotten away with it mainly because of MSM & the dumbing down of American citizens… There are only a handful of Bob Woodwards!

    • Robert Messmer

      The only reason Bob Woodward was able to help bring down President Nixon was due to the insider that ratted the President out. If it hadn’t been for their unknown source they wouldn’t have had a story.

  • scott miller

    One big huge difference between obama and hitler, hitler actually turned around his nation got its economy working, restored its national pride.

    Obama has brought our economy to the breaking point in debt and recession, and torpedoes national pride any chance he gets pitting one side against the other one race against the other.

    • rocketride

      “One big huge difference between obama and hitler, hitler actually turned
      around his nation got its economy working, restored its national pride.”

      Until the bombs started arriving, anyway.

    • TheOriginalDaveH

      Actually Scott, as much as I dislike Obama, Hitler did not turn around his economy:
      http://mises.org/daily/5765/Hitlers-Economics
      http://mises.org/daily/3635

      • Bob666

        Yo Dave,
        Your statement is correct, but there were actions prompted by the government to “turn the economy around”.

  • WTS/JAY

    Professor Admits Hiding Obama College Video…

    Harvard University Law School professor Charles Ogletree admitted that he hid controversial video footage featuring a college-age President Obama speaking at a campus rally in support of a radical professor.

    “I hid this during the 2008 campaign,” Ogletree said in the video. “I don’t care if they find it now.”

    The entire video was aired exclusively on Hannity by Breitbart.com editor-in-chief Joel Pollak and contributor Ben Shapiro.

    The unedited video shows Obama speaking at a 1991 rally for Professor Derrick Bell.

    Bell has been described as the Jeremiah Wright of academia. At one point in the video, Obama embraces Bell.

    It’s unclear why Ogletree felt the need to protect Obama and hide the video during the 2008 campaign.

    So how damaging do you think this video is to President Obama? How will the Mainstream Media react? And will it change anyone’s mind?

    video here: http://nation.foxnews.com/president-obama/2012/03/07/obama-harvard-tapes-exposed-hannity

    • Robert Messmer

      Video doesn’t play properly, get into it just past the edited portion and then scrubbed?

      • WTS/JAY

        I’m actually watching the video as i’m typing to you…at this point i’m at the 8 minute mark. It plays fine.

        • Robert Messmer

          Thanks and yes it did this time around.

    • Karolyn

      Many people have done radical things when young, but it does not mean they remain the same. Of course, some do remain the same; however, I never judge anybody by what they did in their youth. I am not the same person I was 40 years ago, or even 20 years ago. I was much more radical in my 20s.

      • WTS/JAY

        Karolyn: Many people have done radical things when young, but it does not mean they remain the same.

        So you don’t think that Obama has done some radical-things since being in office, Karolyn?

  • securityman

    I see that some of you are finally waking up to what your prez is doing. but, you can believe me when I say that it is going to get worse, much, much, worse.

    • Jana

      Where have you been? We have been talking about this for a very long time. Come join us.

      • securityman

        jana, I was against this idiot the first time he got in. I just took a little break when the nsa put a hold on my other computer. but , I am back now. I guess I,ll be here until they track this computor down and put a stop on it also.

        • Jana

          I hope they don’t track your computer!

        • Vis Fac

          I suggest you constantly change your I.P. address as I do. I was blocked by a few LIBERAL sites on discus so being tech savvy I am able to disguise my I.P. and keep on their butts. Helps hide my physical location as well.
          FYI Using a proxy server is useless.

          To sit back hoping that someday, some way, someone will make things right is to go on feeding the wolf, hoping he will eat you last – but eat you he will.

          You don’t have to be a Marine to make a difference the only requirement is being truly patriotic and the willingness to back it up!!!

          Libertas inaestimabilis res est
          Semper-Fi

  • http://batman-news.com Jim B

    What is left to say about BHO, there are no more unknowns, there is enough information now to understand the consequences of political ignorance. After all, isn’t that what he’s wanted all along… isn’t every action he’s perpetuated aimed to divide America. Even the ignorant Americans, the serfs and welfare bunnies who voted for the great divider can still grasp a lie, can’t they? No hope for MSNBC, CNN, CNBC and alike, their so far up BHO divisional butt they can’t hear or see a thing that’s going on around them. I must admit however, that I have noticed a few have escaped, but they are way late to make a difference at this point, besides they really liked the warm cozy place from which they came and would very much like to get back there as soon as possible. The politicians and bureaucrats and there pocket media have forever and a day said our education system is the foundation of our strength, well-well- well, isn’t it ironic that the governments education system has create so much ignorance in these United States. Millions of New Yorkers and Californians and other such Blue States don’t have a clue as to who caused what, who’s responsible for what… nothing! They are completely ignorant to governments control over them, and gladly repeat propaganda from which they have no bases of knowledge or understanding e.g. FOX Lies… Give us an Example… I don’t have one now but…. Pathetic! It truly is astounding to watch the ignorance of the youth, but the middle age and elderly can be just as ignorant. They base their loyalty on politics from generations past, they no longer pay attention to the damage that has been bestowed upon them and their brethren. The youth, whole different story, they’re just plain brainwashed and have no original thought, half, most, can’t even tie their shoes, as I witness everyday on may train ride to work. Here’s some Hope and Change for you. Your Master wishes you to pay twice, maybe three time (if you have a job) as much for health insurance, that you don’t need, to support the uninsured, those poorer than you, and the elderly, else you pay a penalty to his coffers. That’s how it begins, it ends with you in jail at some point, that you can be sure. Hope and Change, Ya Man!

    • http://batman-news.com Jim B

      Thanks for the enlightenment!

      • Vis Fac

        Jana posted a link below I suggest you look at it in fact I suggest EVERYONE look at it

        To sit back hoping that someday, some way, someone will make things right is to go on feeding the wolf, hoping he will eat you last – but eat you he will.

        You don’t have to be a Marine to make a difference the only requirement is being truly patriotic and the willingness to back it up!!!

        Libertas inaestimabilis res est
        Semper-Fi

  • TheOriginalDaveH

    Hitler comments on Obamacare:

    • Vis Fac

      That was Hillaryious (Clinton) Too bad it wasn’t proper German but a lot of gibberish with subtitles The message is clear and unfortunately true. Humor goes a ling way in making ones point. Unfortunately there isn’t anything humorous in ODUMBOCARE. The Government is now in the business of ruining lives and killing people

      To sit back hoping that someday, some way, someone will make things right is to go on feeding the wolf, hoping he will eat you last – but eat you he will.

      You don’t have to be a Marine to make a difference the only requirement is being truly patriotic and the willingness to back it up!!!

      Libertas inaestimabilis res est
      Semper-Fi

    • JeffH

      Too funny!

  • vietnamvet1971

    obama is Satan’s son.

    • Jana

      He certainly doesn’t serve God!

      • JeffH

        In the end, God will have the final say.

        • WTS/JAY

          Whether one believes in Him or not! :)

          • JeffH

            Yepper! :)

  • rocketride

    I’ve been calling him “The Lyin’ King” for years, now.

  • Guest

    You have said the same things I have been saying for years.
    Imposter, Liar in chief, Born in kenya and more British than American with his father, IF that man WAS his father.
    His advisors have known of his lies but do everything to hide it with the help of the media. I do not believe it is because of his colour but rather a way for the ex-communists known as demoncraps to manipulate and lie also. This coloured man has NOT the intelligence to lead but is LED! I do not recall any other president??? who needed a teleprompter!!!! A TELEPROMPTER!
    What? I used to speak to groups in four languages and nothing in front of me but them.
    He who leads from behind must smell his own f—-s

    • Jana

      I agree with everything you said except one thing. He is not an ex-Communist. He is a Communist and he is right in sinc with the Socialists and the Communists who are trying to turn our country into a Communist country.

    • Jeff

      Wow, you are truly deranged. The teleprompter nonsense again? And from an admitted Bigot on top of it? A Bigot and a Moron.

      http://www.usnews.com/opinion/articles/2012/03/20/obamas-teleprompter-the-gops-dumbest-attack

      • TheOriginalDaveH

        Jeff hits the deck running with his Argumentum ad Hominem.
        Obama without teleprompter:

        • JeffH

          That’s what the Obama apologists and useful idiots are trained to do…Unhinged Jeff is more like a monkey that is trained to stump for the organ grinder.

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            That was an insult to monkeys.

          • JeffH

            My sincere apologies to monkeys.

          • Jana

            You hit the nail on the head! That is exactly what Jeff sounds like, that monkey that belongs to an Obama stumping organ grinder!

          • WTS/JAY

            An apologist for corruption, and motivated by the fear of being separated from the government tit, it seems!

          • rocketride

            And bend over for the organ grinder, too.

        • WTS/JAY

          The boy is fit to be tied! He’s on a rampage…look out!

  • JeffH

    John Myers has summed up Obama in a nutshell with “I believe this to be the truth: Obama is a fraud born in Kenya and protected by progressives and the mainstream media because he is the first black President. I believe Obama is determined to inject Islam and its Marxist tenants into America the way Adolf Hitler infected Germany with National Socialism. I believe Obama will use further lies to accomplish his egomaniacal goals, which may include remaining President beyond 2016.”

    Let’s take a closer look based on what we’ve come to know about Obama:
    1. “Obama is a fraud born in Kenya and protected by progressives and the mainstream media because he is the first black President.”
    – Yes he is a fraud!
    – Yes, it’s a fact that the progressives and the MSM have had O’Man’s back since the git-go
    – Born in Kenya? It may be 75 years before the truth comes out on this one…other than fraudulent COB’s we can only surmise whether it’s Kenya or Hawaii
    – Yes, it’s a fact that the libera/progressives have used Obama’s skin color to accuse anyone that doesn’t like Obama for his politics as racist meant to promote racial divide…Alinsky/Marxist – “the means to an end”

    2. “I believe Obama is determined to inject Islam and its Marxist tenants into America”
    – Islam and kitman, These are two forms of lying to non-believers that are permitted under certain circumstances. These circumstances are typically those that advance the cause Islam – in some cases by gaining the trust of non believers in order to draw out their vulnerability and defeat them.
    – Obama Administrations support of the Muslim Brotherhood and the Muslim Brotherhood infiltration within our government perpetrated by Obama and his Administration. For several years now there have been several people named within the Administration with direct links to the Muslim Brotherhood. Obama’s eagerness to support the Arab Spring for “Democracy” in Egypt and supporting the ouster of long time ally H. Mubarak and the insertion of the new Muslim Brotherhood in the name of “Democracy” for Egypt.
    The six named people include:
    – Arif Alikhan, assistant secretary of Homeland Security for policy development;
    – Mohammed Elibiary, a member of the Homeland Security Advisory Council; – – Rashad Hussain, the U.S. special envoy to the Organization of the Islamic Conference;
    – Salam al-Marayati, co-founder of the Muslim Public Affairs Council (MPAC);
    – Imam Mohamed Magid, president of the Islamic Society of North America (ISNA);
    – Eboo Patel, a member of President Obama’s Advisory Council on Faith-Based Neighborhood Partnerships.
    http://www.investigativeproject.org/3869/egyptian-magazine-muslim-brotherhood-infiltrates
    – ***Also note that Hillary Clinton’s Aide and State Department Deputy Chief of Staff, Huma Abedin, and her family have ties to the Muslim Brotherhood. Abedin, wife of Anthony Weiner, was a member of the executive board of the Muslim Student Association, a front group for the Muslim Brotherhood.

    2a. There is no question that Obama “honed his greatest skills” in Chicago as an Alinsky trained Marxist “community Organizer”.
    – “Obama learned his lesson well. I am proud to see
    that my father’s model for organizing is being applied successfully beyond local community organizing to affect the Democratic campaign in 2008. It is a fine tribute to Saul Alinsky as we approach his 100th birthday.” –Letter from L.
    DAVID ALINSKY, son of Neo-Marxist Saul Alinsky
    – Obama helped fund ‘Alinsky Academy': “The Woods Fund, a
    nonprofit on which Obama served as paid director from 1999 to December 2002, provided startup funding and later capital to the Midwest Academy….
    – Obama sat on the Woods Fund board alongside William Ayers, founder of the Weather Underground domestic terrorist organization…. ‘Midwest Academy describes itself as ‘one of the nation’s oldest and best-known schools for community organizations, citizen organizations and individuals committed to progressive social change.’… Midwest teaches Alinsky tactics of community organizing.”
    – Both Hillary and Obama were students of Marxist Saul Alinsky/Rules for Radicals and Hillary wrote her college thesus on Saul Alinsky as well as working for Saul Alinsky in Chicago while crafting her trade.
    – Alinsky Marxism 101 – “True revolutionaries do not flaunt their
    radicalism, Alinsky taught. They cut their hair, put on suits and infiltrate
    the system from within. Alinsky viewed revolution as a slow, patient
    process. The trick was to penetrate existing institutions such as
    churches, unions and political parties.

    3. “I believe Obama will use further lies to accomplish his egomaniacal goals, which may include remaining President beyond 2016.”
    – Obamacare is government controlled health care, nowhere close to health care reform…1/7th of our economy will become socialized medicine.
    – Immigration Reform which is political doublespeak for Amnesty.
    – Obama’s lie to the people “This is not amnesty. This is not immunity. This is not a path to citizenship. It’s not a permanent fix. This is a temporary, stopgap measure that lets us focus our resources wisely while giving a degree of relief and hope to talented, driven, patriotic young people.”

    I beg to differ!

    “When people who are here unlawfully are told by the government that they will not be prosecuted and instead given a legal status and work permits, that’s amnesty,”

    • Jana

      Jeffh, This was great. Some of this I knew and was a refresher course, but some I didn’t know. Thank you, thank you.

      • JeffH

        Thanks Jana…this is all stuff that has been known about Obama for many years now…some a little more recent, but we must not lose sight that Obama is merely a well trained puppet. Just one of many around the globe but the most important puppet because America has always been the “leader of the free world”.

        The bottom line is that Obama is an outright fraud and thank God there are Americans that do believe in “the land of the free and the home of the brave”, life liberty and the pursuit of happiness and who haveworked hard to achieve their American Dream and believe in the America our founders had the vision to create and give to us…and then there are others who don’t, who have their own sense of what the “American Dream” should be…the nanny state based on social justice forced by government intruding into all phases of our lives and our society.

        We know that there are millions of laws, rules and regulations that tightly regulate our daily lives. Most of these laws, rules and regulations were established by people who believed that they had “good intentions”, but at this point the nanny state has become so oppressive that it is strangling the life out of us.

        Today, a vast array of government agencies is constantly monitoring what all of us say and do on the Internet. They claim that this helps makes us all more “safe” and “secure”.

        In order to maintain proper “control” over our lives, the nanny state is obsessed with watching us and monitoring us.
        America has been overrun by control freaks.

      • Vigilant

        Jana, please see my comment above.

        • Jana

          Vigilant, I was replying to Jeffh post much further up of:

          John Myers has summed up Obama in a nutshell with “I believe this to
          be the truth: Obama is a fraud born in Kenya and protected by
          progressives and the mainstream media because he is the first black
          President. I believe Obama is determined to inject Islam and its Marxist
          tenants into America the way Adolf Hitler infected Germany with
          National Socialism. I believe Obama will use further lies to accomplish
          his egomaniacal goals, which may include remaining President beyond
          2016.”

          Let’s take a closer look based on what we’ve come to know about Obama:
          1.
          “Obama is a fraud born in Kenya and protected by progressives and the
          mainstream media because he is the first black President.”
          – Yes he is a fraud! ……….
          It just got pushed further and further down with more replies to his post. I was not in on whether or not Cruz should be eligible to run for President.
          My thoughts on that is at least Cruz’s father was applying for U.S. citizenship at the time, and they were in America for sure when he was born even if he wasn’t on US soil, and it didn’t matter for Obama, but that is a moot point as Cruz is a TEA Party and for some reason people think the TEA Party has some weird agenda that they don’t. The left has assigned this to them and I do mean the leftists in the Republican Party as well as the Demonic rat Party.

          • Vigilant

            Understood, Jana. I only saw the last two (yours and JeffH’s) postings, and was merely trying to clear up the prevalent misunderstandings about presidential eligibilities.

    • http://seekingalpha.com/article/1514632 lottopol

      Assuming Obama was born in Kenya, there is no doubt that his mother was a natural born American citizen at the time. Ted Cruz was born in Canada and is a ctizen by virtue of his mother’s US citizenship. Any difference in eligibility?

      • JeffH

        Although your question has nothing to do with my comment I’ll answer it anyway.

        Neither one of them should be eligible to become POTUS because neither one of them are “natural born” citizens!

        Both parents(that’s plural) must have been US citizens at time of birth. There are circumstances where the citizenship of the mother prevails because the father is unknown or dead.

        The fathers and citizenship of both Obama and Cruz’s fathers were known to be foreign…so they are both a “Citizen
        by Statute” granted by the pen.

        Obama is a “native-born”(not to be confused with natural born) 14th Amendment citizen because his mother was an American and he was allegedly born on US soil in Hawaii.

        Cruz is also a 14th Amendment “Citizen by Statute” because he was born in Canada and his mother was an American citizen.

        • WTS/JAY

          Nice job, JeffH!

        • Vigilant

          We rarely disagree, Jeff, but Chester A. Arthur’s father was not a US citizen when he was born. Arthur’s run for vice president was not challenged in court.

          Additionally, Cruz was not born in the US so he cannot be a 14th Amendment citizen, which deals only with citizens born within US borders. He is a “citizen at birth” by virtue of US nationality law.

          Notwithstanding the above, the fact remains that the definition of “natural born citizen” has not been restricted to only those situations where both parents were US citizens. Minor v. Happersett did not exhaustively define the term, nor has any court.

          According to Wikipedia, “the Supreme Court has never directly addressed the question of a specific presidential or vice-presidential candidate’s eligibility as a natural-born citizen.”

          • JeffH

            Vigilant, Chester Arthur isn’t a part of this conversation so I won’t address that part and you’re right, Cruz isn’t a 14th Amendment citizen, he is a “Citizen by Statute”(by the pen) as is Barack Obama.

            Statutory citizenship means that a person’s citizenship requires a law or laws to define it. A citizen via statute is constitutionally ineligible to serve as Commander-in-Chief.

            ALL statutory citizens are born with a tie to another nation by birthplace and/or blood, but NEVER is that the case with any natural born citizens who are only American.

            A statutory citizen (bestowed by man’s pen) can never be a “natural born” citizen (bestowed by God/nature).

            With all due respect, and I do respect you, Wikipedia would not be my choice of reference. There is just so much confusion caused by lawers and judges along with a lot of lower court misinterpretation that it is extremely difficult to sort out and only clouds the issue.
            Also, so many get confused by the word “citizen” and instead believe it has the same meaning as “natural born citizen”…which it doesn’t but it is very common of the Obama apologists to use citizen in lieu of “natural born citizen”.

            One has to go back and research the Framers intent to actually understand the “natural born citizen” clause and I believe that is the reason why the term is mis-used and misunderstood by so many.

            That said, in Minor v. Happersett, the SC opinion did define who could and could not be a “natural born citizen”, thus setting a binding precedence…The Court established her citizenship by definining the “class” of “natural-born citizens” as those born in the US to parents who were citizens. Then the Court included Virginia Minor in that class thereby deeming her to be a US citizen. And they did this by specifically avoiding the 14th Amendment and by specifically construing Article 2 Section 1.

            In the case of Obama, he held dual citizenship at birth because his father was a British subject and later in life when his American mother moved to Indonesia and married Soetoro and recognized Obama as his son, Barry Soetoro(Barack Obama)became an ***Indonesian State Citizen.

            Cruz has openly renounced his Canadien citizenship.
            Obama has never(openly and transparently) renounced his British or Indonesian citizenship.

            note: Ted Cruz followed a somewhat different but similar path as Obama…although Cruz was born in Canada…American citizen mother, Cuban citizen father, fled from Castro’s Cuba to Texas and educated in Texas, worked in the oil fields in Canada.

            ***Under Indonesian law, when a male acknowledges a child as his son, it deems the son, in this case Soetoro/Obama, an Indonesian State citizen. See Constitution of Republic of Indonesia, Law No. 62 of 1958 concerning Immigration Affairs and Indonesian Civil Code (Kitab Undang-undang Hukum Perdata) (KUHPer) (Burgerlijk Wetboek voor Indonesie).

            Multible sources:
            http://www.federalistblog.us/2008/11/natural-born_citizen_defined/

            http://www.fourwinds10.net/siterun_data/government/us_constitution/news.php?q=1308252582

            http://naturalborncitizen.wordpress.com/2011/06/24/minor-v-happersett-is-binding-precedent-as-to-the-constitutional-definition-of-a-natural-born-citizen/

            http://theobamafile.com/obamanaturalborn.htm

          • Vigilant

            With due respect, Jeff, that’s a rather unfairly dismissive comment.

            If the topic is eligibility to run for president/vice president as a natural born citizen, Arthur is very much a part of the conversation. The fact that he ran, was elected and served as vice president under Garfield very directly relates to the definition of “natural born citizen.”

          • JeffH

            Vigilant, I don’t see it as unfairly dismissive but I also don’t want to argue for the sake of arguement.
            I ultimately want the truth, whether I’m right or wrong…but I will address Chester Arthur’s eligibility issue.

            I also want to say thank you for pushing me just a bit on the Chester Arthur question because it sheds light on the whole “eligibility” issue we’re faced with today and I was able to further educate myself.

            The fact that his citizenship was never challenged in
            court does not, in any way, mean he was or was not qualified as a “natural born citizen” to become VP or POTUS.

            Here is some interesting history about Arthur regarding his citizenship that you may find interesting.
            http://naturalborncitizen.wordpress.com/2008/12/06/urgent-historical-breakthrough-proof-chester-arthur-concealed-he-was-a-british-subject-at-birth/

            Chester Arthur perpetrated a fraud as to his eligibility to be Vice President by spreading various lies about his parents’ heritage. President Arthur’s father, William Arthur, became a United States citizen in August 1843. But Chester Arthur was born in 1829. Therefore, he was a British Citizen by descent, and a dual citizen at birth, if not his whole life.

            Chester Arthur’s lies came during his Vice Presidential campaign in 1880. His fraudulent attempt to obfuscate family history provides context and evidence that in 1880 it was recognized that having been born as a British citizen would make one ineligible to be President or VP. His falsification of family history indicates he was aware of POTUS ineligibility.

            Arthur lied about his mother’s time in Canada. He lied about his father’s time in Canada. He lied about his father’s age plus where and when he got off the boat from Ireland. By obscuring his parents’ personal history he curtailed the possibility that anybody might discover he was born many years before his father had naturalized.

            Because Chester Arthur covered up his British citizenship, any precedent he might have set that the country has had a President born of an alien father is nullified completely as Chester Arthur was a usurper to the Presidency. He wouldn’t have been on the ticket if it was public knowledge. Nobody knew Arthur was a British subject because nobody looked in the right place for the truth.

            William Arthur naturalization papers-PDF copy
            State of New York
            Washington County
            8/31/1834
            http://naturalborncitizen.files.wordpress.com/2008/12/william-arthur-naturalization.pdf

            It’s apparent to me, and I hope to you too, that no branch of our government, federal or state, nor any of the ruling two party elites is interested in the Constitutional eligability requirement of any candidate running for any branch position or office of our government.

          • Vigilant

            In Minor v. Happersett, SCOTUS never entertained any notion of exhaustively defining “natural born citizen” because it was never asked to do so. In fact, had it purported to do so, it would have egregiously exceeded its charter by going far afield beyond the specifics of the case.

            It merely said, in effect, that no one could argue that Minor was not a natural born citizen since she met even the most restrictive of definitions of it. She was born in America of US citizen parents. It was not asked to make an activist decision to define the term to cover all controversial cases because the courts are restricted to rendering judgments on the basis of case particulars and nothing else.

            Lastly, if Happersett were a precedent, it would have had far-reaching ramifications for subsequent court cases involving citizens seeking eligibility for president or vice president. It has not been used as a precedent for very good judicial reasons: it is irrelevant to the determination. It has never, in short, been considered as a landmark decision with respect to presidential eligibility.

          • Vigilant

            Jeff, I would ask you to consider the following:

            The title of the website you’ve quoted in part is “HISTORICAL BREAKTHROUGH – PROOF: CHESTER ARTHUR CONCEALED HE WAS A BRITISH SUBJECT AT BIRTH” is a misrepresentation of the truth.

            One of the more ridiculous assertions was that “he would have known that if anybody found out his father naturalized after he was born, he could never be President or Vice President.” Arthur never hid this fact from public scrutiny.

            It indeed appears that Arthur lied about his birth year, when and where his father and mother resided, etc., but I can find no evidence whatsoever that he ever tried to cover up the fact that his father was not a citizen when he was born. On the contrary, there was no lack of clarity in his Brooklyn Eagle newspaper interview when he said “My father, the late Rev. William Arthur, D.D., was of Scotch blood, and was a native of the North of Ireland.” His own words, prior to the 1881 election, prove the website wrong.

            In short, it does not seem to occur to Hinman, the political henchman paid by the Democrats for any dirt he could come up with, that anything out of the ordinary was to be gleaned from an “exposé” of the fact that Arthur’s father was not a citizen at the time of his birth. In other words, he felt there was no mileage to be gained vis a vis an unhidden and well known truth of the day.

            It was well known that Arthur’s father was not a citizen, but it posed no actionable challenge in the minds of those who would have disqualified him on the basis of Constitutionality. THAT is the key point, not that Arthur was given to misrepresentation about his history that had no bearing at all on the crucial question.

            Hinman, in effect, felt he had to fabricate other, more ridiculous stories about Arthur in an effort to disqualify him. Hinman’s debunked stories throw more suspicion on his motives than on Arthur’s with regard to the birthright matter..

            To be honest, I am always distrustful of sites and sources that are obviously pushing an agenda. Modern standards seem to condone the cherry picking of information and assertion-making that can be logically disproven by evidence found elsewhere in the website article itself.

          • Robert Messmer

            The argument concerning the definition of “natural born” goes to the book which I believe is titled Laws of Nations, written by a frenchman. It was this book that Franklin and others involved in writing the Constitution referred to. The book goes into detail as to natural born meaning that both parents had to be citizens of the country at the time of birth. It seems pretty obvious that was the intent of the Constitution since the requirement for Senator is simply citizen with no mention of natural born.

    • Jeff

      And Prescott Bush did business with Hitler, the real one. Talk about guilt by association. No wonder you TP jerks are about as popular as bed bugs. And who employs “Alinsky” tactics these days? Can you spell “Ted Cruz”? I know that to you and your ilk, any talk of social justice or helping the poor is tantamount to Stalinism, but to those of us who are sane, you guys are a little on the nutty side.

      • TheOriginalDaveH

        And what business was that, Jeff? Bush must have been one go-getter being only 20 years old when Hitler died.

        Jeff says — “I know that to you and your ilk, any talk of social justice or helping the poor is tantamount to Stalinism, but to those of us who are sane, you guys are a little on the nutty side”.
        Social Justice? It is very much like Stalinism. Both involve Force. Both result in more poverty. Both enrich Leaders at the expense of the rest of us. And you imply you are sane, Jeff? I think not.

        • Jeff

          Prescott, not George! W’s grandfather who married into the Walker family where the money came from! Since you seem conveniently unaware of facts commonly known:

          http://www.theguardian.com/world/2004/sep/25/usa.secondworldwar

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            You edited your comment. Prescott wasn’t there before. Nice move. You also know damn well, Creepy Liberal Jeff, that I don’t defend either of the George Bush’s.
            Note that I’m not implying I knew anything about Prescott Bush. And I could care less. If you want to dig up skeletons, you don’t have to dig far at all to see FDRs shenanigans:
            http://library.mises.org/books/John%20T%20Flynn/The%20Roosevelt%20Myth.pdf
            http://library.mises.org/books/John%20T%20Flynn/While%20You%20Slept.pdf

          • Jeff

            I edited nothing. If Prescott wasn’t in the original version you got, check your server. But did I really have to say neither George Bush could possibly have done business with Hitler? You remind me of one of your acolytes who actually thought I had accused Romney of avoiding the draft during World War I because the issue of Romney’s comment about the number of ships we had in 1916 came up.

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            Yes, Jeff, you did have to say which Bush. Dredging up a past ancestor is weak, even for you. As far as insulting your intelligence, you can’t blame me since you stick up for politics that have been soundly proven to be failures.
            You’re either very ignorant, or you’re gaming the system and taking advantage of other people.

          • JeffH

            Ignorant for sure!

      • JeffH

        You believe you’re sane? WOW!
        I can’t help but LMAO at the Obama apologist and useless idiot Unhinged Jeff!

      • WTS/JAY

        jeff: I know that to you and your ilk, any talk of social justice or helping the poor is tantamount to Stalinism,

        Since obama took office, the number of Americans on food-stamps has doubled to 47 million and counting. So exactly how is that helping the poor, jeff. Quite clearly, it seems, that the government is in the business of creating, “the poor”. And what a business it is, jeff. Wouldn’t you agree?

      • Muffin Man Mashinksy

        You are a LOONY TUNE LIB who sux Doody balls!!

      • Robert Messmer

        Since Prescott Bush was US Senator from Connecticut by your reasoning that would mean that the Nazi’s (real) had invaded and captured the state.

        What are you calling social justice? How are we to know if we support it or not when you don’t bother to define what you are calling “social justice”. By any chance are you referring to Obama’s practise of killing American citizens without trial as dispensing “social justice”?

        More Republicans help the poor than Democrats since Republicans actually give them jobs. Not only does that provide them with money it bolsters their pride.

        • Jeff

          I was talking about objections to the very concept of social justice. Didn’t your hero Glenn Beck warn you about that? I think any party more concerned about tax cuts for the top 1% than about feeding poor kids has forfeited any claim to caring about social justice. Food stamps are slashed while the very Repug Congressmen so voting continue to collect millions in agricultural subsidies traditionally provided in the same bill. I consider that obscene. You clearly have a different view and you’re entitled to it. But don’t think you’ll ever convince me to vote for one of them.

          • Robert Messmer

            I don’t have any heroes. Don’t even know a Glenn Beck so nope he didn’t warn me about anything.

            Social justice is all fine and good BUT please don’t try to tell us that the Democrats don’t continue to accept any subsidies that they qualify for. Go to a flat tax, no deductions, no subsidies for anyone. That would reduce the IRS to where they could get by with one office instead of literally taking up miles of space. All unnecessary IRS agents could be EO’ed into the military. Quit arming Drug Cartels and International Terrorists. Stop supporting the Muslim Brotherhood. Stop trying to start wars. Pare the government back to constitutional limits and there would be plenty of money to feed all the hungry people here in America.

            BTW the top 1% has gotten more money under Obama as well.

  • Michael McNew

    What Obama has given us is a state system of authoritarianism and spying. Now our people are so exposed we may as well be in porn:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rAyRi4tqsUo&feature=youtube_gdata

    I suppose the difference is that porn stars are given compensation for giving up privacy.

  • speedle24

    Here is something amusing. You will remember that Joe Wilson (S. Car. congressman) called Obama a liar during his speech to the joint session of congress back in the first term. Remember the absolute shock and dismay of the pundits and media that he could make such a gaffe right there on national TV in front of God and everyone?
    What would anyone think if that happened today?

    • Jana

      A lot of us would clap and yell AMEN!!! We would probably still be ostracized and called racists, you know, the agenda from the Communist Playbook.

    • rocketride

      More people would agree with him even if they felt it necessary to call him out for “bad form”.

  • WTS/JAY

    Obama Promised to IMMIDIATELY Make GMO Food Labeling Mandatory…

    So many of us were quite happy to hear that presidential hopeful Senator Barack Obama promising that he would“Immediately make GMO food labeling mandatory.” (before he was elected as president). It came as a shock when (after he was elected) president that not only did he NOT do as he had promised, but did something completely to the in favor of GMOs.

    What did he do instead? Instead of giving the consumer the right and the tool to be informed about what is in their foods, he sided with GMOs and signed Monsanto Protection Act into effect; giving immunity from federal prosecution to the biggest genetic altering company in the world ; a company whose main goal is to “dominate world’s seeds 100%”, the same people who told usAgent Orange was safe.

    To make matters worse, President Obama made another shocking announcement by appointing former Monsanto VP, Michael Taylor, as the Senior Adviser to the Commissioner at Food and Drug Administration.

    Even Bill Maher, the biggest Obama supporter flipped his lid, calling obama EVIL: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NUSPPofUElM

    • http://www.rt.com Alondra

      What a surprise! The Mr. Evil against Goodness and Conventional Norms of the Nature.

      Putin warned obama about Monsanto GMO Food

  • http://seekingalpha.com/article/1514632 lottopol

    Does anyone doubt that if Obama had been politically savvy enough to allow all people with existing policies no matter how bad or inadequate to keep those policies, the Republicans would now be saying: 1 Obama said the people would not lose their insurance because of preexisting conditions and now he is allowing those policies to continue and/or 2. Obama is forcing private insurance companies to continue selling policies that they might not want to sell because such policies expose them to lawsuits.

    Everyone whose policy was “cancelled” has been offered better plans. Should people who like to buy cars without any safety features, no seat belts, no airbags, no horn, no brake lights etc. be allowed to buy those cars? Safety features add at least $1,000 to the cost of a car. Some people might like to buy cars without safety features and everyone would like to pay $1,000+ less for a car. However, we do not allow cars to be sold without safety features.

    The 75% of those in the USA who file for bankruptcy because of unpaid medical bills who HAD insurance, probably now would say they wish that those policies with low lifetime caps (now illegal) should not have been allowed to be sold to them.

    “…Focusing attention on the insurance companies, which are simply intermediaries between the doctors and the patients, was a tragic error. It would like trying to solve a problem of high energy prices by focusing on gasoline stations. Only if the government sets prices can health care prices be controlled. Controlling prices does not automatically result in longer waiting times. Japan and Switzerland generally have shorter waiting times to see doctors than does the USA. Additionally, if prices were controlled there would be no such thing as “in-network” or “out-of-network” since all doctors would accept all insurance plans…”
    http://seekingalpha.com/article/1647632

    • WTS/JAY

      The “Federal” government has no business mandating “health-insurance” to American citizens, period! That does not fall in the “job-description” of the federal government. Nowhere in the U.S. Constitution is the federal government empowered with the right to mandate or regulate the delivery of “health-care” or the “purchase” of insurance coverage under penalty of fines, taxes or imprisonment due of non-compliance. That is why Obamacare is UN-CONSTITUTIONAL!!!! Capish????

      And please don’t use the “car-insurance” argument, as the car insurance argument is ridiculous when comparing it to mandatory health insurance.. The reason, a vehicle owner must only carry LIABILITY insurance to protect others if injury or property damage is caused by the insurers vehicle. Not having liability insurance results only in the owner having to bear full cost of any court-awarded damages.

      • http://seekingalpha.com/article/1514632 lottopol

        The correct analogy is not car insurance but rather the Federal Government mandating car safety standards. The reason you are not allowed to by cars without any safety features, no seat belts, no airbags, no horn, no brake lights etc. is the same reason you can not buy a cheap health insurance policy with very small lifetime caps. If you crash your car without the seatbelts and run-up hundreds of thousands of dollars in medical bills and have a health insurance policy with a $10,000 lifetime cap, the rest of us have to make up the difference.

        “…Government spending has been increasingly driven by medical care prices. Government pays half of the costs of health care in the USA. When the tax spending aspects of the tax deductibility and exclusions of medical care and insurance expenses are included, the impact of health care costs on the deficits is even larger. In many respects, the health care price crisis is uniquely American. Our Government spending on healthcare per capita exceeds that of any other country in the world, including those where there is very little private health care expenditures,..”
        http://seekingalpha.com/article/1647632

        • TheOriginalDaveH

          Lottopol says — “The reason you are not allowed to by cars without any safety features, no seat belts, no airbags, no horn, no brake lights etc. is the same reason you can not buy a cheap health insurance policy with very small lifetime caps”.
          Well yes, if you’re talking about the Politicians buying votes and sending business to their Crony Capitalists, it is the same reason.
          They buy votes from ignorant people who think Government can really protect them from their own stupidity. The truth is that in the decade after mandatory safety belts, there was no significant decrease in the number of auto fatalities. The belts may indeed be safer, but the perception of that safety enables a lot of people to drive more recklessly thinking they are immune from danger. Interestingly, in 1983 the seatbelt usage rate was 14% and the number of auto deaths per 100,000 was 18, but in 1987 the seatbelt usage rate was 42% and the number of auto deaths per 100,000 was 19 (an increase).
          But even if that weren’t the case, lottopol, who are you to decide what risks other people take? Should we ban hang-gliding, mountain climbing, heli-skiing, bull riding, auto racing, motorcycling, all of which are more dangerous than not wearing a seatbelt?
          I think ignorant controlling Liberals are a hazard to themselves and to other people. We ought to outlaw Liberals for their and our safety.

          Lottopol says — “Government pays half of the costs of health care in the USA”.
          And Government is responsible for a many times increase in Medical care costs with their meddling.
          http://mises.org/daily/1133

          “For the first time in history, the estimated cost of regulation exceeds half the level of the federal budget itself. Regulatory costs of $1.806 trillion amount to 11.6 percent of the U.S. gross domestic product (GDP), estimated at $15.549 trillion in 2012″.
          http://www.scribd.com/doc/144210931/Wayne-Crews-Ten-Thousand-Commandments-An-Annual-Snapshot-of-the-Federal-Regulatory-State-2013

        • WTS/JAY

          lottolpol:”…Government spending has been increasingly driven by medical care prices. Government pays half of the costs of health care in the USA. When the tax spending aspects of the tax deductibility and exclusions of medical care and insurance expenses are included, the impact of health care costs on the deficits is even larger.

          All the more reasons to privatize health-care! And btw, lets get our terminology correct; the tax-payers, not the Government, pays half of the costs of health care in the USA.

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            Good point, Jay.

        • Ron S.

          now if you would only pay attention to what you are describing we might win you over to our side…you just explained medicaid/welfare. entitlements you and your buddies think everyone should have..redistribution of wealth…you argue for Odumbass and you are the DA!!!!!

          • Deerinwater

            hey, help me understand here, if we are mandated to buy medical coverage , who are the entitled? and don’t people pay for medicaid? Perhaps it is subsidized but is not employer based medical coverage subsidized as well?

          • Ron S.

            this shld open your eyes and let you see peeinwater…..you admit you don’t understand and yet you back a socialistic agenda…DUH!!! and we argue that it shld NOT be mandated but you support that position…DUH!!!! and NO i don’t believe YOU pay for medicaid i believe I pay for it so YOU can suck off society..DUH!!!! and I GOT 2 WORDS FOR YA…DUH!!!DUH!!!

          • Shadow_58

            Ron, I’m waiting for the Demo-Nazi’s to show me the exact wording in our Constitution where it states that tax paying citizens are responsible for the medical care of other’s. If anyone out there can enlighten me to the wording, please do so.

          • Vigilant

            You’ll find it in the same place that allows the government to steal your $$$ to redistribute to the indolent, provide food stamps, and bribe the unions and teachers.

            It also authorizes the executive branch to selectively enforce federal laws of its own choosing, write new laws via executive orders, and establish a Big Brother surveillance apparatus.

            This is all found in the shadow Constitution to which the progressives appeal whenever they wish to circumvent/override/sidestep the estimable document the rest of us go by.

          • Shadow_58

            Heard you loud and clear.

      • Deerinwater

        well, ~ that might well be so Jay, ~ but It seemed to be okay when the Federal Government was subsidizing the select few who were well employed for the last 40 years. ~ We were not hearing any complaints about government involvement back then. ~ In fact, ~ people seemed like the idea.

        The problem seem to be , ~ there are less such people around today that can boost of being “well employed”.

        it’s always been a “Numbers game” , ~Insurance companies depend on the numbers to work in their favor. With fewer numbers, Insurance providers find their odds less favorable and stinking (shrinking) both really ~ profit margins. ~ this is why premium cost rose 300% over the course of just 20 years and showed no signs of slowing down. Not to mention the rising popularity of denying claims and dropping the insured all together for possibly filing a claim.

        I agree with you ~ but add, neither Government nor employers needs to be in the insurance business. ~ but they have been and they still are today.

        You permit a camel to stick his head in your tent, ~ next thing you know, ~ the whole camel is in your tent. ~ Government and Religion both share these characteristics and both require occasional pruning that will be met with loud protest.

        • rocketride

          “Politicians are like diapers. Both require frequent changing– and for the same reason.”
          — H. L. Mencken

    • Muffin Man Mashinksy

      WOW!! I have read soooooo much about ObummerCare, but I have never read anyone say anything soooooo MORONIC!!! Isn’t it hard to defend this POS ? Does your body hurt from so many contortions? Bottom Line, LOONY TUNE LIB: The SOB in the half-White House said over & over & over you will be able to keep your policy, NOT that you would knocked off because there will be a better one!!

    • Ron S.

      what a DA…typical libterd that never used the argument about inadequate policies before the Odumbass admin came up with that!! You wait until they try to defend themselves with lies and then you argue for them using the newly created lies!!! Majority of those people accepted those policies and still want them today if you listen to them…you listen to the liars and then stand by their side…what a DA!!!!!

    • ezekiel22

      HMMMMM, I guess now I should be happy that I can now schedule for an OB/GYN and breast exam. Being a male does make it difficult to justify scheduling but hey if I am paying for it then why not?
      Now I have the choice; finally!! of being able to choose groceries or insurance. It is the law of the land now. I get to choose not only higher rates but exorbitant deductibles as well.
      Now I will be able to watch and understand why England is dismantling their system of healthcare. Maybe they can take a lesson from us.
      I guess now we as naive children can now be thankful that we have a benevolent dictator to tell us what is best.

  • JeffH

    Obama Secret Service Agent: “It’s Worse Than People Know…and I’m Not Trying to Scare You Either”
    http://minutemennews.com/2013/11/obama-secret-service-agent-worse-people-know-im-trying-scare-either/#rrRm9kbqo13I3Vwv.99

    Dan Bongino has protected numerous Presidents over his career, including President Obama. He has been within ear-shot of many a discussion in the Oval Office, but up until this administration has stayed out of the lime light. Apparently, however, the activities of this administration are so abhorrent that he could no longer keep quiet.

    Bongino is so upset with what he witnessed that he is now running for Congress because he feels it’s the only way to take America back from the sycophants who have made every effort to enrich themselves with money and power at the expense of the American people.

    How bad is it?

    We’re in a lot of trouble.

    The President sees government – and I think it’s because of his lack of experience and maybe community organizing in the past – as this shiny new toy.

    For all the disagreements I had with Clinton, Carter and Bush there were always limits… there was that line you just didn’t cross… We cross it seemingly every day. We’re lost in the scandals…

    The Jamie Dimon shakedown at Chase… the HHS scandal.. Kathleen Sebelius shaking down the health care industry for money… the IRS… it’s to the point where these scandals in and of themselves would be huge back-breaking scandals [but] are just lost in the scandal fog of this administration…

    It’s worse than people know… and I’m not trying to scare you either.

    This is coming from someone who has stood next to Presidents for his entire career.

    The implications are absolutely terrifying, especially considering how bad the publicly known scandals already are. Can you imagine what’s happening outside the view of Americans?

  • Jeff

    “I believe this to be the truth: Obama is a fraud born in Kenya and protected by progressives and the mainstream media because he is the first black President. I believe Obama is determined to inject Islam and its Marxist tenants into America the way Adolf Hitler infected Germany with National Socialism. I believe Obama will use further lies to accomplish his egomaniacal goals, which may include remaining President beyond 2016.”

    You don’t SOUND deranged; you ARE deranged! Once you cross the Rubicon and compare Obama (or any American president, for that matter) to Hitler, you have ceded any claim you may once have had to objectivity, honesty, or sanity. Why don’t you lay odds about Obama remaining President beyond January 20, 2017? 1,000 to one? 1,000,000 to one? I’ll give you those odds and take any money you care to wager!

    • TheOriginalDaveH

      Because you say so, unhinged Jeff?

      • JeffH

        He even believes he is sane, despite his SYCOPHANTIC love affair with the Community Organizer in Chief!

    • mari

      History has a way of repeating itself. Why would you think it implausible that the part about Hitler would be any different? The only way that you can be sure is to read “Mein Kemp” or some other accurate history about him. I recommend some autobiographies of Jews who survived the holocaust. Actually you can often find similarities in all history to an assortment of people. Hitler was an extreme leader, it’s true, but there is a pattern and it includes ostracizing groups and making the populace fear and hate them. Bigger government, and gun control also were part of the plan. By saying that anyone who compares him to any part of Hitler is deranged, is not open to new ideas. Instead try refuting his point with facts of your own. If you are not willing to check the facts you should stop your blanket oppositions to other’s opinions. Belittling and name calling are bully tactics and beneath anyone of intellect.

      • macgyver1948

        Mari… If you like history try this comparison chart to see who is really more like Hitler. http://www.seanbond.me/goptea-nazi-germany/ . These things have been known about the Nazis of Germany since there were Nazis of Germany.

        • mari

          I looked at your chart and it saddens me so say that facts elude you. AN ACCUSTTION IS NOT THE SAME AS A FACT. Summing it up with the idea that people will try to poke holes in it but they can’t is circular thinking at best. I implore you to actually do some reading yourself. Don’t just read someone’s chart. If you want to be informed, go through the chart and try to prove your beliefs with historical or current facts. Maybe list some examples.

          • Robert Messmer

            So according to that chart the American flag is the same as the Nazi flag because they both have red in them? What about the British flag? The old Soviet flag had red also so that would mean than Nazi=Communism.

          • http://www.rt.com Alondra

            Flags of China, North Korea, Australia, Germany, Spain, Norway, Switzerland, France, Canada, Mexico, Portugal, Poland, Japan and other countries’ flags contain RED color.

            Liberals’ “logic” just exposing and proving Liberal STUPIDITY.

            “The mouth of fools feeds on foolishness.” – King Solomon (Proverbs 15:14)

            “WISE men speak because they have something to say; STUPIDS because they want to say something.” – ascribed to Plato

          • macgyver1948

            Alondra… Nice but typical try. Coming from you in this and in your other comment to me “Alondra

            You are SICK STUPID IDIOT !!!

            12:05 p.m., Thursday Nov. 7”, a person, you, who should be living in a rubber room wearing a straight jacket your words do not matter since your credibility is less than zero. I am not putting you down because
            of your beliefs, I would fight for your right to your beliefs even though I do not agree with them, but it is in your hateful force that drives them that I see no Americanism and your lack of belief in Liberty for others if they have the audacity to not agree with you.
            Have some more Tea and relax.

            You include the Hebrew Proverb “The mouth of fools feeds on foolishness.” – King Solomon (Proverbs 15:14)”. Yeah, I know this too about you. LOL. Also I bet Plato knew his stuff too. Thanks for offering that quote also. :-)..

          • macgyver1948

            Robert Messmer… LOL, you are kidding Right? I mean you really went that way and did the crazy assumption thing that is so typical of Tea. LOL… They were speaking of Red as a color association as we do here with “Red” and “Blue” states. LOL…. The Commies are
            associated with Red states too but unlike like the Nazis who are far Right Conservative the commies are extreme Left. LOL…. Good going there Robert, your RED side should be so proud of you LOL…

          • macgyver1948

            mari… What saddens me is that you so typically of your side discount it so easily without looking into it. Growing up in the 50s and 60s in history and from older relatives who came from Europe, we knew the
            Nazis were far Right Conservatives on the political scale. For some obscure reason that didn’t change until the Tea Party and their predecessors, the John Birch Society, decided it would change. Could that be because they do not want you to know who they really are until it is too late? Hopefully that will never happen but you should do your own research since it is obvious you and others like you will not believe anything that comes out of history if it discounts what
            your leaders want you to believe or especially from the Left.

            I do not just read someone’s chart. I offer it because it summarizes what I have known most of my life. Again, you should look at history as it really happened by so many historians. Why would historians want or need to twist the facts? But your Tea Party might have a
            reason.

          • mari

            “Knowing” something is not the same as presenting facts as to why you believe it. Which historians are you referring to and what did they say? What instance leads you to believe that the Tea Party wants to distort history?
            It’s similar to the difference between an editorial and a factual news story. We all have strong beliefs, but not everyone wants to do the research to find out what the truth really is.

          • macgyver1948

            mari… There are similarities between Tea and others in history they, Tea, do not want us to see or remember. Do your own comparisons if you will not accept mine. We have those “strong beliefs” based on our basic beliefs, the ones we choose to believe. I see danger in Tea and and you choose not to. I see problems with Obama but you might see so much more that may not be there, those that Tea wants you to see. I see danger in the extreme hold Tea and pledges such as the Norquist one has on GOP policy and law makers and that scares me because they have to “do as they are told”, says Norquist.

            Again, research the things Norquist says about those who sign his pledge, not ONLY by reading the short and tidy pledge itself. Ask why more and more signers are trying to get out of the pledge and maybe you
            will see what I am referring to. My telling you, and others here who will not believe anything the Left says (so why bother checking it out?), seems to be meaningless maybe because I am speaking out against what you chose to believe and not see what I see. Do your own research of you do not like what I say.

            I do not need you to believe anything I say but it seems so many on the Right have that need for themselves or why would they get so angry with it and resort to instant insult and name calling? That “I cannot be wrong” attitude will never get anything good accomplished.

            This attitude is the same with religion for many on the Right it seems and that threatens Freedom Of Religion but they do not see it that way either. No one can be right all the time as everyone who disagrees with them are therefore wrong all the time but that is how it, the
            “attitude”, seems for their politics and their religion.

        • http://www.rt.com Alondra

          You are SICK STUPID IDIOT !!!
          And a despicable LIAR !!!

    • Muffin Man Mashinksy

      Obummer is worse because he had a Constitution to follow…he has spit & crapped on a Divine Document….Hitler was Der Fuhrer, a dictator with nothing to bind him!!

  • WTS/JAY

    “Guard Your Kids” Liberals are desperate to get all children into their propaganda machine and are willing to kidnap them from conservative parents.

  • WTS/JAY

    Gene Simmons tells Obama he has no F_cking Idea.

    • Deerinwater

      That was good, ~but I’m not up to speed on these claims ~ and what the administration did or did not do.

      As I understand it, ~ Obama has taken a hit for not appearing to be overly sympathetic and pander to Israel like previous administrations have done. And I feel certain that the Jewish community misses that “open” support. ~ It’s given rise and afforded some credence to the claim that Obama is a Muslim.

      While I would come closer to thinking, ~Obama finds himself attempting to walk a very thin line between to two camps , Christian and Muslims and not antagonize either with overt public gestures. As radical Muslims account for more senseless killing around the globe then radical Jews do, it would seem prudent behavior and posturing.

      So, if you or some of those on the far right wish to twist my thoughts and make the claim, that i am saying, if Jews want more US attention then they must be more radical then Muslim radical, ~ I would have to say, “Yes! that about sums it up.

  • Deerinwater

    Forgive me John, no disrespect to your mother, maybe there was such a time, but you can’t trust a thief. A thief has the capacity to do anything. ~ I’ve chewed on that all day long and felt like you needed to know that you have been misinformed.

    and speaking of being misinformed , ~ I did not mean to blister you with that,

    as election results all across the nation keeps pouring in, ~ I would think, ~ the blistering more than enough.

    Chris Christie could win a General election while it’s up to the GOP political machine to place him in the position. Will they do it?

    Something inside me says, “No”.

    • Robert Messmer

      Let’s hope not, since Christie is in favor of NSA’s illegal spying.

  • Deerinwater
    • Deerinwater

      you didn’t even put the link before you voted it down. ~ or you are a sick MF and there is not one once of American Patriot in you.

    • http://www.rt.com Alondra

      Oh, welcome to the ObamiNation, dear Liberal.

      You, Liberals, thought that you will be exempt from the lawlessness
      of your Illegal Fraud?

      Nope, you will not. And the Kenyan Kriminal will not hesitate to eliminate you too for uselessness. The history is repeating for the sheeple.

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b6BTrCCp-i0

      • Deerinwater

        Not a liberal butwipe ~ history repeats itself for everyone Your Most Holy Royal Hine.

        Let me assure you Ole Great Foolish One , ~ The State of New Mexico is not now or has ever been Obama Land. ~ This event took place right smack dab in the the heartland of Conservatism.

        • Bob666

          Well Said Darwin!

        • TheOriginalDaveH

          Argumentum ad Hominem added to obtuse.

    • TheOriginalDaveH

      That sucks pretty highly, Deer, but what’s your point?
      New Mexico is a Blue State. Obama won New Mexico in 2012.
      It’s current Senate is dominated by Democrats (25 to 17).
      It’s current House is majority Democrats (38 to 32).
      It’s Governor is a Republican.

      • http://www.rt.com Alondra

        Liberals ALWAYS Scorning the FACTS.
        Their policy is: the LIE, the WHOLE lie and nothing, BUT the LIE!!!

        And the COWARD Mentally PERVERT STUPID IDIOTS with the BEAST’s mark will cheer DISTORTION, LIES and IGNORANCE.

    • WTS/JAY

      Liberals, much like rats, are happiest when exploring the sewer-system it seems.

  • Alleged Comment

    Now I know why you praised the thief Senator Dan Inouye. You said you could trust a thief, but not a liar.

    In the professional world the two skills combined are known as politicians and are highly sought after by Demoncraps and liberals.

  • Robbie

    What difference does it make if Benghazi was a planned attack or a spontaneous riot that got really violent? We do know that the reports of that video were causing riots and violence at U.S. embassies all across the Muslim world. Those Americans who were killed are just as dead whether you want to call the violence a riot or a planned attack.

    • Vigilant

      Why didn’t you quote Hillary and just say “what difference does it make now?”

      What you call it is one thing; the fact that the administration lied about it is another. And we also know that if Obama had let the sleeping dogs lie and had not publicized a hitherto obscure and unknown video, things could have gone quite differently in those other parts of the Arab world.

      By the act of publicizing it, Obama fomented trouble, and that makes him doubly culpable for the lies.

      You’re a very unskilled propagandist.

      • Robbie

        I take issue with your comment that the President publicized the video. My recollection is that the idiot(s) who made the video got the ball rolling and the matter was picked up by the media. It is a shame that any moron who wants to ferment trouble can easily do it these days. Anyway, as I said: riot or planned attack? What’s the diff?

        • ezekiel22

          Robbie you can take issue all you want. It was the administration that promoted the video as the cause of the attack. It was the administration that put Susan Rice on air to five Sunday news shows to spread a lie. The administration knew ahead of time who the perpetrators were. They would not have blown anyones cover as the perps had admitted they did it!
          if you are comfortable following a known liar that has been caught and yet not man enough to admit it you go boy. If you want to know what the diff I will tell you. Go visit the cemetery and then you might begin to understand the difference.

          • Robbie

            I’m not sure what the cemetery would reveal. 4 gravestones for sure. And the bodies under them either died in a planned attack or in a riot or in a demonstration that went violent. All four persons are just as dead are they not?

          • Beverly Golato

            Needlessly, if we had a person in charge who cared about our people they wouldn’t be dead. That’s the difference. We have had other attacks, I know but under those presidents they took actions not inaction.

          • Robbie

            An attack on a U.S. facility could take place anywhere on earth in the next ten minutes. Sad fact is there is no way to 100% protect everything everywhere. As far as other Presidents taking action I seem to recall a whole bunch (100 or more wasn’t it?) of U.S. Marines blown up in Lebanon during ronald Raegan’s presidency. Two questions for you: #1 How come Ronnie didn’t adequately protect those Marines?? #2 Ronnie’s response to those U.S. Marines getting blown up was to pull out of Lebanon right away. Would you call that “action” or “inaction”? You can answer those two questions directly please.

          • Beverly Golato

            The two instances have no comparison, Reagan wasn’t told ahead of time and they didn’t plead for protection 3 times and got ignored. We pulled out because it was the most sensible thing to do at the time. Being in Libya in the first place and relying on their guards to protect our people was inexcusable.

          • Robbie

            Turn and run after a setback? Is that the American way?

          • macgyver1948

            Robbie…When it comes to terrorists you are so right when you say “An attack on a U.S. facility could take place anywhere on earth in the next ten minutes”. The sad part is that it happened and people were murdered. The sad part is those people should have received help as they asked both before and during the attack. . And the sad part is saying Obama was part of the planned attack. But what do we know since we aren’t as right as is the Right? Mistakes were made and bad Intel came out at first but it was corrected. Mistakes were made in the 2000 presidential election, considering the little bush did NOT win the popular vote, but we lived with greater mistakes in the resulting 8 years because of them, and many of those even til now..

          • ezekiel22

            The cemetery reveals a lot. Namely the people that died that should have not with the four Americans being four of them. It is the lies and the inaction that contributes to the additional names on the headstones.
            Because of the lies of this administration many people have died uselessly. There was help available for those four Americans in Benghazi near enough to help. Ever wonder why the lies saying that there was not? Ever wonder why the silencing of those witnesses connected to and involved in Benghazi? Ever wonder why we have not apprehended the known participants in the attack? After all we have a braggart in the WH that says he is pretty good at killing people with drones.
            All those extra names on all of those headstones just because of weakness and lies.

        • Vigilant

          Here’s the difference, dummy: Obama had recently claimed that he had Al Quaeda almost destroyed and on the run. This lie could only succeed if he could convince the people that the Benghazi tragedy was a spontaneous demonstration that got out of hand.

          It goes to “transparency” and integrity of the administration.

          • Robbie

            To say that they were on the run was/is NOT a lie. It is true even today. There will always be nuts running around blowing stuff up so it will never really end. Oh, and by the way, what did you think of President Bush’s comment on board that ship that the war in Iraq was a “Mission Accomplished”? Even a huge sign with those words. The war raged on another few years. Was that a LIE? More of one than what Obama said!

          • Vigilant

            “To say that they were on the run was/is NOT a lie. It is true even today.” Unless you are privy to NSA/CIA/DHS files, you have NO basis for that claim. The heightened turmoil in the Arab world belies your comment.

            BTW, what the HELL does Bush have to do with this conversation? Alinsky is proud of you.

          • Beverly Golato

            The comment by Bush was because they took down Sadam it had nothing to do with Al Qaeda, Al Qaeda is not on the run it is stronger than ever not weaker. Al Qaeda is now present in Iraq because dip doodle in the WH pulled our troops out before the job was done. Now there are more civilians, women and children dying there than ever before.

          • Robbie

            Bush stated that the mission in Iraq was accomplished. Clearly that was not the case as the violence and American deaths continued to the end of his administration and well into the Obama era. But you would not call “mission accomplished” a lie because you were a Bush supporter. You do call a far less dramatic statement by Obama a lie because you can’t tolerate the fact that the smart black guy is President. And you’re going to have even more to fret about when the next President is either Hilary or Joe. Enjoy.

          • Beverly Golato

            That’s okay Robbie you keep believing what you want it’s your right. You don’t know who I support but I will tell you one thing I don’t think Obama is a smart guy, a smart a++ maybe and I don’t care what color he is.

          • Robbie

            Try listening to him for real especially in one to one interviews . Or read some of his books. You’ll find you have a pretty smart and articulate president.

          • Beverly Golato

            He didn’t write his books and his interviews are prescripted for him. He never does an interview unless he knows the questions first.

          • Robbie

            When you are president and interviewed constantly and intimately involved in current affaires it’s not too hard to predict what questions are going to be asked. He answers them well, however, which is/was not the case with certain past presidents.

          • Beverly Golato

            Like I said before, Robbie, believe as you will and so will I.

          • macgyver1948

            Beverly Golato… How could it have anything to do with Al Qaeda when Al Qaeda wasn’t in Iraq and Iraq had nothing to do with 911? Besides the taking down of “Sadam” was the Iraq peoples job, if they chose it, and not our legal or moral job. By the way, were were the WMDs in Iraq since the immoral little bush’s invasion of Iraq?

          • Beverly Golato

            Where do you think Syria got there chemical weapons from? It’s common knowledge now that those trucks that were going out of Iraq before the inspectors were let In were the WMD being shipped to Syria. Don’t you watch the news? Was it Germany’s and France’s job to rid themselves of the Nazis in WW2? Whenever there is a danger to our country we must stop it. It has nothing to do with morals, that just liberal garbage they bring up when they have nothing else to argue with. Another word they use is racists. Liberals don’t even know what moral is.

          • macgyver1948

            Beverly Golato… I am as sure as I can be that Syria got their chemical weapons from Iraq perhaps by way of that Russian truck convey before 911.

            Iraq was never a threat to America unless maybe if Americans wandered into Iraq and went into bad territory. When an invasion is uncalled for, such as the Hitler invasions or the little bush’s invasion of Iraq,
            you bet it is about morals. We had no right to invade Iraq. I suppose Conservative, and Tea itself, set aside their morals to justify any immoral acts of theirs if we go by your statement of “It has nothing to do with morals, that just liberal garbage they bring up when they have nothing else to argue with”.. And you can bet your farm so many of us Liberals know what morals.

            You Right guys, even your extreme religious ones, do not have the corner on the morals market especially when many of you guys have a gun in one hand and a bible in the other thinking you can speak for God and
            justify whatever. I read one Right guy on here the other day, responding to a “Are we headed toward a Civil War in America” article, “We should remember Liberals do not have guns”. What is that, Right-think for ‘we can commit cold-blooded murder and the
            Right authorities will justify it even if God wont”?

            The Nazis were a threat to the world and we were on Hitler’s list to invade us in America but not until they conquered Russia first in their invasion of them, if he could. We needed to enter WW2 a couple of years before the Pearl Harbor attack on 12/7/1941. Since you ask me “Don’t you watch the news?“ I will ask do you follow history by asking you ‘do you know why we took so long and waited for a Pearl Harbor kind of thing to enter WW2’? I will give you a hint. There
            were several huge American Industrialists/corporations who were doing big business with Hitler and they didn’t want those profits to end.Profit over morals. And, there were those in Congress who were told but those huge American Industrialists/corporations to keep us out
            of WW2. How is that for a hint?

            That is the nature of big money influencing our Government by huge American Industrialists/corporations as the US Founding fathers
            warned. It is still happening today, the influencing that is, and your Tea Party owned GOP are the guys to continue that betrayal. The Tea Party and their GOP, as well and the supporting but threatening pledges, such as the Norquist one, are controlling the GOP to get them to do as they are told or else, and that includes supporting the big corporations and the very wealthy at our expense. Still “Profit over morals”. Beverly Golato, “Don’t you watch the news”?

          • Vigilant

            “By the way, were [sic] were the WMDs in Iraq since the immoral little bush’s invasion of Iraq?”

            Try looking next door in Syria, idiot.

          • macgyver1948

            Vigilant… Considering how well armed, considering “given the range of weapons used”, and organized the attack was it truly is clear to any idiot it was well planned in advance. Considering we are also talking about politicians it may not be so clear to any idiot that
            Obama and Hilary didn’t tell the truth about that idiots video as they were led to believe until more Intel came in. Until we know better we would continue to say what we were told to begin with, it is human nature.

            Whatever the case the attack was brutal and nasty and I wish it never happened.

            “By the way” Vigilant, it is clear you are not reading all my words and choosing only the ones you prefer so you can call me an idiot or not reading long enough. So what does that ignorance or programming of yours say about you with your “Vigilant – “By the way, were were the WMDs in Iraq since the immoral little bush’s
            invasion of Iraq?” Try looking next door in Syria, idiot.
            11 p.m., Saturday Nov. 9””???

            Calling me an idiot is only bringing out the angry small child in you which is also typical. Either that or your Tea programming is controlling you, maybe both. :-).

            I have been saying for a long while that the Iraqi WMDs, including a lot of Chemical weapons material, were trucked by probably the Russians to Syria before 911. More Tea-like-speak on your part in your comment to me but you are only Right typical. Not
            a bother to me as I consider the source of your insults.

          • Vigilant

            “Not a bother to me as I consider the source of your insults.” Au contraire, I think it bothered you very much that I told it as it is. The pains you have taken to stereotype the Right indicate your lockstep bigotry.

          • Janelle

            Robbie, that is a naval response to a completed task. It’s not uncommon, nor is it the first time.

          • Vigilant

            It is useless to try to tell the Left anything other than what they were told to believe.

          • Janelle

            Glad you caught me online. We all have military family
            or friends who do, so it’s a reminder to Robbie to think about them. Much was made about that sign by a news
            media who need to think before they write and realize
            they can voice their opinions because of the men and women in our military.

          • macgyver1948

            Robbie… It is useless to try to tell the Right anything other than what they were told to believe. Our forces did have Al Quaeda on the run but that accomplishment, although not yet complete, will be denied by the Right as long as there are Democrats in the White House. Sad huh, considering we should all be on the same side when it comes to groups such as Al Quaeda.

            The little bush’s statement “Mission Accomplished”. concerning his IMMORAL Iraq WAR, IS SO WRONG ON (accounting) paper because it is still costing us so much money that is needed to help fix our ailing economy and as a war it was lost. But the little bush is an idiot.

          • macgyver1948

            No one since the initial Intel went to the Oval Office, then corrected with better Intel, thinks “that the Benghazi tragedy was a spontaneous demonstration that got out of hand.” but I bet your leaders want you to believe that of the Left.

          • Vigilant

            There was no “initial intel” to the effect that it was a spontaneous demonstration. Any idiot would have known it was not, given the range of weapons used and the style of attack.

            FOR DAYS the administration attempted to convince the masses that the video was the spark, and they knew all along as they lied through their teeth that it was not.

        • Beverly Golato

          You take offense? Did you ever hear of the video before big mouth Obama and Hillary spoke of it? They knew of this video for a long time and were waiting to use it at just the right time. They knew of the planned attack in Libya because they were a part of it, what they didn’t count on was those SEALS going in to try and save our people. No president goes to bed when this kind of a situation is happening unless they already know the outcome. They were smuggling guns and arms to Syrian Rebels and had them stored in Libya that’s why Brain dead Obama wouldn’t pull our people out. It also can be noted that being a Muslim Obama won’t intentionally kill another Muslim. We all know he couldn’t even give the go ahead to kill Ben Laden, it was Panetta who gave the order.

          • Robbie

            I didn’t say that I took offence. I’m not going to respond to the rest of your nonsense. If you think that the President was part of the plan to attack and kill American diplomats then you are clearly delusional.

          • macgyver1948

            Beverly Golato…WOW, there is so much BS in this I would not know where to begin. First off that so-called “Embassy” was really a safe CIA house. The Ambassador was there for embassy reasons perhaps but for you to say Obama and Hilary “were part of” the attack is a bold face LIE. Your chosen leaders would want you to believe that because they are not in the White House and have that control as they do in the House of Representatives and how they want the Senate. Wow would we all be in trouble if that ever happens..

            It is more than sad that the attack happened but at least blame those who deserve the blame. Maybe if the compound was a full fledged embassy instead there would have been more support, who really knows but I wish there was, but I will grieve just the same for the loses.

          • ezekiel22

            If you grieve so much then do some more research. Benghazi will not go away.

          • macgyver1948

            ezekiel22… I hope it never goes away but is taught in history classes from about the 6th grade through college. It must not go away so we can never allow it to happen again. Those at Benghazi, both before the attack when they asked for help and during, should not be forgotten.

      • WTS/JAY

        Vigilant: And we also know that if Obama had let the sleeping dogs lie and had not publicized a hitherto obscure and unknown video, things could have gone quite differently in those other parts of the Arab world.

        Of that, there can be no doubt! For, since taking office, the fool on the hill, assisted by his crony-thugs and mindless zombie-supporters, has been working overtime to undermine this country, and has, based on his every word and deed, brought shame and unspeakable hardship to this nation. He is a filthy, lying, murderous, back-stabbing reprobate unlike any of his predecessors, and God forbid that something horrible and unspeakable should happen him!

  • WTS/JAY

    Responding to widespread public outrage over his breaking of earlier promises that people could keep their existing health insurance coverage under the new system, Usurper Obama now claims that he never actually made such promises, despite the fact that there are at least 29 recorded instances of him making them.

    In front of a mindless crowd of about 200 enthusiastic supporters from the Obama apologist group “Organizing for Action,” which was gathered at the St. Regis hotel in Washington D.C., the Usurper blatantly denied ever making statements like “If you like your plan, you can keep it,” which documented evidence proves he made dozens of times while on the campaign trail. What he really meant, he now claims, is that people can keep their plans only if these plans haven’t changed at all since Obamacare was forcibly rammed through the political system and declared to be law.

    “What we said was you could keep it if it hasn’t changed since the law was passed,” alleged a mendacious Obama with full applause from his audience of zombies.

    http://www.naturalnews.com/042821_Obama_denials_broken_promises_health_insurance.html#

    • Beverly Golato

      29 times, last count. These zombies want to believe him because if they admit he lied then they must admit they are fools.

  • skHurricane

    Obama lied about everything, even his sidekick Hilary lied. It is disgusting that some Americans can’t see the truth. I can’t believe Congress is allowing him to get away with this health care scam. The insurance companies are to blame too. The insurance companies were right in there with him over the law.