The Insidious, Hidden Nature Of Theft By Government

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When it comes to the economy, most Americans are functionally illiterate and lost in a fog of frivolity and ignorance. How else to explain their continued advocacy for and support of policies detrimental to their economic interests?

For instance: Conventional wisdom holds that the Federal Reserve is essential to sound monetary policy and that its activities ensure that inflation and unemployment are kept in check. Conventional wisdom also holds that the United States is in debt and you should pay your “fair share” of tax dollars — as determined by a group of collectivists — into the U.S. Treasury in order to keep government functioning and pay off that debt. Neither could be further from the truth.

Look at the dollars in your pocket. They are nowhere near the value of the dollars that you had as a child or that you may have stored under your mattress.

Most people think that a dollar is a dollar. Not so. Today’s dollars (nominal dollars) are quicksand money that destroys financially all who trust it.

We have had fiat paper money since 1913, and most of that time it was being debased (inflated). Now it’s at a 96 percent loss. A 1913 dollar is now worth only 4 cents. What cost $1 in 1913 now costs almost $23. How did this happen?

It happened through inflation — which is not rising prices, as most have been lead to believe. Inflation is an increase in the supply of money, i.e., money printing by the Federal Reserve. The increase in the amount of money in circulation causes prices to rise as more money chases fewer goods.

We are only as rich or as poor as the purchasing power of our money. Have you ever wondered why banks and politicians love paper money? Because they profit from it!

Some of you who are readers of The Bob Livingston Letter™ (subscription required) may remember we predicted that the money printers would pull us out of the 2008 financial collapse at least one more time. Well, the indicators put forth by government and the mainstream media propagandists tell us that they are doing it, but it comes at great cost to the value of your dollars and to the detriment of the middle class.

In this inflating economy we have the stock market hitting all-time highs, but in nominal dollars it is creating deceptive losses.

Nominal dollars are the everyday paper dollars that we think of and call money. These dollars change every day (depreciate). The value of these dollars goes down constantly as the money printers continue to debase our currency.

Now the point is that Americans don’t know the difference. They don’t know that depreciating or nominal dollars by debasement is destroying their savings, their retirement and systematically impoverishing them. If this is not all important, I don’t know what is!

Nominal dollars, or depreciating currency, is destroying America. America is a giant Ponzi scheme no different from the one pulled off by Bernie Madoff. Madoff’s scheme collapsed because he became locked into an economic death spiral of moving dollars from one pile to another. That is the case of the U.S. economy.

Nominal depreciating paper money dollars is default headed for the trash heap of all the unfunded paper money in history. The few who wake up to the real world begin exchanging their depreciating paper money for gold, silver and Swiss annuities (Swiss francs).

Those unaware of the inflating debasing nature of nominal dollars live in a fickle and imaginary world. They believe that all is well and all is safe. They are further deceived by rising stock prices in nominal dollars. One can be up 100 percent in a stock portfolio but still be losing in real dollars. It’s very deceptive!

How many investors in Warren Buffet’s famous Berkshire Hathaway realize that they have been losing in real dollars for years? I don’t believe they mention this in their sensational annual reports.

All modern money is nominal dollars. Look at the money in your pocket or your savings account or your retirement. You are being deceptively impoverished and the fact that you are unaware of it makes your eventual impoverishment certain.

As to whether Federal Reserve or a central bank is necessary, one need only look at the 100 years prior to the creation of the Fed in 1913 (a period that also included Civil War inflation and its destruction of the U.S. economy). An item that cost $1 in 1814 cost only 47 cents in 1913. That’s almost completely the reverse of the past 100 years. (For further explanation of the Fed and inflation, go here, here and here.)

Now to the “crisis” in the Washington, D.C., cesspool and the ongoing debate over government funding and the debt ceiling. First, understand this: The U.S. national debt will never be paid off. There is in fact no debt. It is all an illusion of political doublespeak.

How can there be a “debt” if there is money printing to infinity? Ask yourself another question: If you had a printing press that could print all the money you wanted, would you have any debt? Of course not, and neither does the U.S. government (but State and local governments do have debt).

So if there is no debt, why must you pay your “fair share” of taxes? The truth is there is no need, because as I’ve demonstrated, your taxes do not go to pay U.S. debt. Taxes are merely a means of redistributing wealth and compiling an informational dossier on all Americans.

The key word to describe fiat non-substance is infinity. This imaginary money system can be created to infinity and indeed is on its way. The American people (and the world) believe that this non-substance is real money. This is an exercise in an unbelievable and unimaginable delusion that is accepted by the mind as real.

This is socialism at its most perfect creation and it is doing exactly socialism’s work of transferring the wealth and savings of the American people to the State without payment.

Debt implies that there are limits to money and spending. Debt is not a concept that can be applied to Federal government so-called accounting. This is one of the system’s deep dark secrets and proof the whole Federal System is a fiat paper Ponzi.

My friends, you may have title to your home, your savings and your accumulated wealth, but the State is the owner without compensation to you.

Why? Everything that you “own” is denominated in fiat U.S. dollars. As the Fed creates fiat to buy up America (euphemism for bailout), the nominal dollar ownership of your property diminishes. This system allows no escape from its fiat.

So what should you do? First, stop thinking conventional thoughts. They are not your own.

If you will digest completely what I write, you will be catapulted into the real world. You will not spend your life frivolously and off point.

Preserve your labor, your savings and retirement with gold and silver in your possession. You will know what to do with your precious metals when the time comes — and it will come.

Precious metals don’t pay interest, you say? This is conventional thinking backed by the paper money myth. Gold and silver are the only real money in existence. They are real money as well as intrinsic wealth. Moreover, gold and silver appreciate in purchasing power as paper money depreciates. That is your real interest. All understanding of hard money has been lost down the memory hole of the fiat paper world money regime.

I am proud to be an American, but I know that my government and my country have been stolen by the money creators.

Personal Liberty

Bob Livingston

founder of Personal Liberty Digest™, is an ultra-conservative American author and editor of The Bob Livingston Letter™, in circulation since 1969. Bob has devoted much of his life to research and the quest for truth on a variety of subjects. Bob specializes in health issues such as nutritional supplements and alternatives to drugs, as well as issues of privacy (both personal and financial), asset protection and the preservation of freedom.

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  • independent thinker

    ” There is in fact no debt. It is all an illusion of political doublespeak”
    That would be true if the US were still in charge of printing its own money. Since the US has let the non government Federal Reserve assume control of the printing of our money the US does have a burgeoning deficit/debt and it is owed in large part to the Fed. At least that is the way I see it.

    • Deerinwater

      a compounded illusion predicated on the desire for “want”

      • TheOriginalDaveH

        If you’re trying to posture as intelligent, Deer, you have failed.

  • vicki

    The OP writes:

    “Inflation is an increase in the supply of money, i.e., money printing by
    the Federal Reserve. The increase in the amount of money in circulation
    causes prices to rise as more money chases fewer goods.”

    Correct. Inflation is just a fancy word for the supply/demand equation where money is on the supply side of the equation. The supply of (units of) money goes up. The demand remains the same. The VALUE of (the units of) money goes down.

    • David Stovall

      Exactly right, and that is the tool for a daily withdrawal from your savings account, IRA certificate of deposit, etc., And with it , the purchase of votes.

    • FreedomFighter

      During inflation periods food stuffs and other commodities rise in cost.Toilet Paper: 30 roll package 20 US Dollars today, 6 months from now due to inflation now costs 30 US Dollars. During the same time your savings account with 200 dollars in it made 0.02%. If inflation continues the money actually becomes toilet paper.
      Prepper Investment Tip: Buy Raw Honey, glass quart jars sealed for storage. 60% of honey bees die each year or disappear, production is plummeting, inflation is in action. Properly stored honey has an indefinite storage life, 3000 year old Egyptian tome honey has been found to be edible. Its so good for you too.
      Laus DeoSemper FI

    • podunk1

      The CPI index was a good indicator of the devaluation… numbers are now cooked under BO. “Consumption bonds issued for trust fund deposit deposits do same thing as Bernanke bills.

  • David Stovall

    Can we say “income redistribution”. ” When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.” Benjamin Franklin.
    Do not think that the Red States declaring independence is radical, it is that ,or go down with the Blue States.

    • Deerinwater

      So went was “wealth” seen as wealth when it could not be distributed?

      Was there ever such a time?

      • David Stovall

        I gather from your comment that you believe in confiscation and distribution. There was such a time. The colonies Plymouth and Jamestown began as communal property governments. Those that worked little or not at all were given , by government, the products of the industrious citizens (communism) and in a short time it deteriorated into famine. Governor Bradford declared an end to communism and the start of free enterprise with the right of ownership. From his journal : “They had very good success, for it made all hands industrious.”

        • Bill

          Good comment, David
          We need to keep telling this historical event to keep the revisionists from removing it from the history books

        • TheOriginalDaveH

          Very good, David. It’s nice to see that somebody is actually reading their history.
          For those who would like to delve further, see Chapter 18 “The Founding of Plymouth Colony”:
          http://mises.org/books/conceived1.pdf

      • Walt

        Of course all weath is eventually re-distributed by some means, unless you are Donald Duck’s uncle McScrooge, with his massive vault of gold coins.
        It is how, why and by whom it is distributed that is important. If the government confiscates your accumulated wealth at the point of a gun, or by stealth depreciation, then this is one method of re-distribution that most intelligent folks should disapprove of. If however, you exchange your wealth in the marketplace for goods and services, you are in control of the re-distribution process.
        Of course, some will argument that we are exchanging our wealth (through taxes) for services from national government agencies for roads, security (defense) and a host of imposed alphabet services like OSHA, EPA, FDA, TSA, FTC, SEC, etc.
        The problem is that we have become economic slaves to all these so called “essential services”. However, our current government shutdown clearly demonstrates that maybe they are not really as “essential” as we are led to believe.

        • TheOriginalDaveH

          The big appeal to Government services to many people is that somebody else must pay for them.
          Not so in the private sector, which does a superior job, but must be paid for by the people who actually buy the services.

    • smilee

      income distribution started in the late seventy’s when they started to destroy the middle class and give all the opportunity and income to the rich, today’s radical conservatives (very different from the one’s just a few years ago) are destroying this country and few on here understand that.

    • TheOriginalDaveH

      And much (if not most) of the income redistribution is from us to the Elitist PTBs by the methods which Bob described in his article.
      That which goes to the poor is merely to buy votes and keep the politicians in office.

  • antonio

    This very good analyzes. However, it is far-away from the reality. When USDollar’s is being pegged with other currencies then that makes the impact. But, the situation ” is ” because, USA is not Manufacturing and Developing Goods anymore. They rely on ‘OUTSOURCING’. The value of the goods that they supposedly selling for export had lost its value and that Nobody wanted to Buy Made in America anymore. The Public became consumers instead of sellers. USA buys oil in other countries for 90US dollars a barrel. It cost three,(3) times more for other countries. However these countries used the leverage of having more Works and Jobs for its people and in return Export the Products because it is OUTSOURCED by USA. So, what happened? The Power of the Dollars had and still going-up in Value against the currencies of other countries.But, and this is the BIG BUT. When USA doesn’t Export Anymore? What you have here? Thinking of GDP and GEP, Gross Domestic Products against Gross Export Products. So, the Solution is If the product is Outsourced in other countries. ” Let that country use the products and do not return that Product to the United States.” If there is the need to take back the Outsourced Products it must be SOLD on the Equivalent to Made in America.

  • Deerinwater

    well worth the viewing, even for very knowledgeable people

    The Secret of Oz – Winner, Best Docu of 2010

    my personal “over simplified” summation on the subject ?

    “The marketing of Confidence.”

    Bookmark it and view it several times as time permits.

  • RightGunner

    Hi Bob,

    Thank you for keeping everyone informed on what fiat money does to us. I have known about the problem for about 40 years, however I was never satisfactorily able to follow exactly how the “printed money that no one had earned” was introduced into the financial system along with the money that people legitimately earned.

    I am still interested in following the journey of the phony buck into the economy where it causes inflation resulting in higher prices by “providing more dollars chasing the same goods”. I understand the “printing of fiat money” has now been modernized into “an authorized authority increasing the quantity in someone’s account ”. A keystroke billion here and a keystroke billion there, “kind of cool” as the Democrats say.

    It may help people like me and a whole lot of others, to have a simple clear view of how, say Government bonds are apparently “created”, then “bought” by the Fed , and what happens after that in specifics. An exposition in understandable terms that creates a sequence that the common person can visualize may go a long way towards the wake-up call you are striving for.

    • 1baronrichsnot1

      Right gun, we including you know what this fiat paper is doing to the economy. This paper has no value what so ever! It’s total worth is determined by the gov’t and Fed reserve. It is only valuable, because the powers of financial fiat tells us it is. It can buy our labor, our transportation, our food, our meds, etc. until a point when the suppliers of real product, says” have you got anything else to pay with?” I have enough of these dollars! In other words loss of confidence in the dollar. It is essential that the people using fiat currency is kept in the dark about its worth. That will move forward the day that the dollar is not in demand. That day is close! It will happen when people discover, you can’t eat it, can’t spend it, can’t barter it, and it isn’t used for growth, pay, or anything of value, as it continues its crash into history.

      • Bill

        You are right, Baron,
        The only thing giving our currency value is confidence.
        With Russia and China moving on a fast track to be the worlds economic super powers, and the US moving on a fast track towards socialism (which only benefits the ruling elite and the middle class is eliminated), it is just a matter of time that our currency will not be looked at favorably

    • TheOriginalDaveH

      Read these two books, Gunner. They explain what money is all about pretty thoroughly (keep your dictionary nearby, though):
      http://mises.org/books/whathasgovernmentdone.pdf
      http://mises.org/Books/historyofmoney.pdf

  • hippybiker

    If every cognizant American read and understood the book ‘The Creature From Jekyll Island’ by G. Edward Griffin, the stinking politicians, and central bankers would be hanging from light posts.

  • Oliver_K_Manuel

    FEAR of nuear annihilation in 1945 frightened world leaders and guilt-ridden scientists deceive the public about the source of energy (E) stored as mass (m) in cores of heavy atoms, some planets, ordinary stars and galaxies.

    Scientific lies about the Creator & Sustainer of worlds, lives and atoms has enslaved mankind and halted human progress.

    See one page synopsis of messages sent to the Space Science & Technology Committee of the US House of Representatives.

    https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/10640850/Synopsis.pdf

    With kind regards
    Oliver K. Manuel
    Former NASA Principal
    Investigator for Apollo

    • Oliver_K_Manuel

      The very survival of the human species is at stake.

      The tyrannical one world government established on 24 Oct 1945 to save us, . . . has in fact almost already destroyed our ability to meet the ever-changing challenges of life.

  • Motov

    I find it sad that many americans have no clue how our system is supposed to work, How past politicians ripped off citizens for years. Even how promises made today turn into lies tomorrow. But we never seen acceleration to our demise like this administration is doing, with Libtards along the sidelines cheering as if we are going the right direction. Sorry, you morons!
    Health care is NOT a right (Never has been). And the insane spending will end
    sooner or later. Government has past that magic line where it is impossible to repay it back. Obozo now wants to see even more spending,…
    We are BEYOND broke, If anyone spent like these clowns do, We’d be in jail a very long time ago.

  • mark

    Nothing in PLD, about Obama’s capture of a top Al Qaeda terrorist over the weekend? Oh, that’s right it doesn’t fit in with the PLD’s propaganda line that Obama is a supporter of Al Qaeda and Muslim terrorism. Just leave these inconvenient facts aside. They gum up the Big Lie that the cuckoo right is always pushing.

    • Motov

      Obozo went out and caught a terrorist?, Amazing! All I thought he was able to catch was maybe a cold, or coupla Z’s!

      • Average_Joe56

        He always catches a few rounds of golf …on the taxpayer’s dime….

        • Bill

          Hi Joe,
          And don’t forget those wonderful vacations where their entourage gets to tag along, and the sky is the limit as far as costs

    • Vigilant

      Nothing in your comment that’s even remotely related to the topic at hand.

      If you’re interested in the editor’s job, submit your résumé; otherwise, quit caterwauling about their policies.

    • Vigilant

      Nothing in your comment that’s even remotely related to the topic at hand.

      If you’re interested in the editor’s job, submit your résumé; otherwise, quit caterwauling about their policies.

    • Average_Joe56

      “Nothing in PLD, about Obama’s capture of a top Al Qaeda terrorist over the weekend? ”
      Really? How did he catch him? Did he accidently hit him with a golf ball?
      I guess all of that golfing did pay off, after all.
      I realize that it is difficult for you mark, but please…try to stay on topic.

      • WTS/JAY

        I think mark is talking about the staged-killing of the already-dead, Osama Bin Laden, a few years back…remember? I think Obama worked with Jim Henson, the creator of Sesame-street, on that one! Afterwards, and if you recall, Obama also took credit for killing the already dead, Jim Henson.

        • Average_Joe56

          I believe that you are referring to Jim Henson, puppeteer and Muppet creator?

          • WTS/JAY

            Yes, the very same!

          • smilee

            Too much watching Puppet shows. maybe that is why you are so far removed from the real world!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            If you’re representative of the real world, Sleepee, I would voluntarily remove myself.

          • S.C.Murf

            This real world you keep referring to is run by none other than your savior satan, makes you feel good doesn’t it smilee

            up the hill
            airborne

          • smilee

            Your one big ignorant joke!!!

          • WTS/JAY
        • Motov

          II wonder if he is also responsible for Jimi Hendrix?

          • WTS/JAY

            Considering his popularity is on a serious decline, he just might take credit for that as well.

      • smilee

        Sure, Eisenhower had nothing to do with Normandy either, your such a simple minded idiot!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

        • Bill

          Smilee,
          Comparing Obama to Eisenhower is like comparing a mouse to an elephant

          • smilee

            The right comparison would have been FDR and Obama as they were the commander and chief, FDR gave the go ahead to Eisenhower and Obama gave the go ahead to the seals The Commander is always the man in charge

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            I think we were talking about money, Sleepee. Why are you trying to divert the conversation?

          • Vis Fac

            Because Smelly has no cognitive argument to support his pre-programmed position He must divert attention elsewhere to save face!!

            Libertas inaestimabilis res est
            Semper-Fi

          • smilee

            Average Joe was not and my post was in response to him. Too difficult for you?

          • Bill

            Smilee,
            It must be fun to live in this fantasy, made up world of yours.

          • smilee

            I do not know, is it ?, We know that is where you live!

          • Barakolips

            Obama couldn’t command a rowboat let alone Navy seals! Go to youtube sometime and see what Navy seals think of Obama, not good.

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            Cover up? Another Pat Tillman style silencing?

          • Vis Fac

            All elite military units share a common bond as we all train at each other’s facilities and doing so interact and learn from one another. The Air Force has their forward observer para rescue teams the Army has the green Berets Navy SEAL and Marine corps Force Recon Teams.

            The Delta Force is an amalgam of all these units under the control of the Joint Chiefs as all elite teams are.

            Having participated in “black ops” operation I can well imagine the cover up attempts to save face. Why do you suppose our government prohibits personnel from providing personal opinion ODUMBO could care less.

            Libertas inaestimabilis res est
            Semper-Fi

          • Vis Fac

            Not to mention the armed forces in general. You certainly wouldn’t want to poll any of the veterans at any of the VA facilities either.

            Libertas inaestimabilis res est
            Semper-Fi

          • smilee

            Regardless of what you say, he is doing it and quite successfully, your lies cannot change that reality

          • smilee

            Say any lie you like but the truth is he has and done it quite well despite your lies. It is easy to make a utube video to say anything you like, there is as many lies in them now as truth, they are made for suckers like you, Most who were involved with him say otherwise and that includes Bob Gates and I will take his word of yours every day.

        • TheOriginalDaveH

          Speaking of simple minds — Heeeere’s Sleepee.

        • Vis Fac

          Smelly strikes again with his usual inane blather. Let’s see Eisenhower West point graduate and supreme allied commander of the ETO Planned and executed the D-Day invasion of Europe

          ODUMBO alleged graduate of Columbia university (no one remembers his attending classes) Alleged Law professor at Chicago University teaching the US constitution (JOKE)

          And you dare believe ODUMBO could plan and execute this type of operation? Right Smelly you are the typical armchair quarterback that has no common sense but plenty of Conventional (liberal) wisdom and foresight.

          Libertas inaestimabilis res est
          Semper-Fi

          • smilee

            No dispute on Eisenhowers background but FDR made the decision. , the point washe was not on the ground on Normandy beach 6/6/44 nor was FRD and Obama is not now ., that is irrelevant to average joes idiotic statement that I responded to it..Eisenhower had to have the OK from FDR just as the seals needed Obama’s OK neither Eisenhower or the seals had the last say you missed it as you so often do. and that was the point

          • Vis Fac

            SMELLY — All wars are political and being so are run by the head of state this does not make them competent to do so I was involved is a conflict run by a DUMBOCRITE who didn’t have the sense to come in out of the rain or pour PI$$ out of a boot let alone run a war.

            Leaving tactics to the generals is the way war should be waged. You don’t initiate rules of engagement that prolong hostilities as “FRED” as you put it (I believe you meant FDR) or LBJ did in Vietnam.

            The idea is to win quickly and decisively causing the fewest amount of casualties and the least amount of collateral damage as possible Most all wars have been started during a DUMBOCRITIC administration and the liberal element is DIRECTLY responsible for more casualties and higher collateral damage.

            I can only refer to the anticts of the 60’s hippie movement and their drug culture aided by the traitor Hanoi Jane These acts of protest not only gave the North Vietnamese resolve but cost the lives of untold thousands on both sides. Had we not been restricted by inane “rules of engagement” we would have defeated the North in less than two years.

            Instead we dropped ordinance on empty rice patties and chased the NVA into Laos and Cambodia where we couldn’t follow.

            So if our politicians don’t want to actively participate and don a uniform they have no business dictating policy. This hold true to all the cowards(especially you) that want to pontificate or chime in that haven’t or wont don a uniform.

            Libertas inaestimabilis res est
            Semper-Fi

          • smilee

            Your just plain nuts!! Go take a nap!!

        • Average_Joe56

          Feel better now that you’ve insulted someone? Does it reinforce your ego?
          It must be really sad to be so small minded, vile and hateful. I feel bad for anyone who knows you personally as well as your family members. Troll…….

          • smilee

            Then you must feel sorry for yourself.

            Sure, Eisenhower had nothing to do with Normandy either, your such a simple minded idiot!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

            .
            Were in this post is there an insult?? If it true it is not an insult just the truth and you are the reason it is. Grow up.

    • WTS/JAY

      Speaking of topics unrelated to the subject at hand:

      Priorities…Amber-Alert closed. The “non-essential” Amber-Alert web-site has been shut down. Fortunately, Michelle Obama’s “let’s move” site remains open. So, even though children may be kidnapped by predators, at least they wont get fat, huh?

    • http://www.thefreedomtrainusa.com/ FreedomTrainUSA

      Mark…N/A…

    • TheOriginalDaveH

      Non Sequitur. mark tries, unsucessfully, to take us off on an unrelated tangent. One of the typical Liberal Progressive techniques.

    • Vis Fac

      Yeah nothing like taking credit for other people’s hard work is there, especially if you are as impotent oops Omnipotent as ODUMBO?

      Mark is another resident of La La Land and owned by the establishment!!

      Libertas inaestimabilis res est
      Semper-Fi

    • TheOriginalDaveH

      The PTBs could care less what terrorists call themselves, or who they side with, as long as the PTBs get what they are after — More oil, More gas, More money. They merely use the labels to get the ignorant masses on their side, while they ravage their wallets.

      • S.C.Murf

        Well they have the ignorant mark on their side

        up the hill
        airborne

  • mark

    “So what should you do? First, stop thinking conventional thoughts. They are not your own. If you will digest completely what I write, you will be catapulted into the real world” Oh and what you write, Bob, should suddenly be other people’s thoughts? This is the original way to think – by digesting completely other peoples’ words and thoughts? And your words of course will transport all of us into the “real world?” This plea of yours is the tact of every egomaniacal guru and cult leader in the field of extremist politics, religion, and financial scams. Please, you’re giving yourself away, Bob.

    • http://www.thefreedomtrainusa.com/ FreedomTrainUSA

      N/A

    • CWA

      You write “This plea of yours is the tact of every egomaniacal guru and cult leader
      in the field of extremist politics, religion, and financial scams.” Of course you are including BO, Reid, Pelosi, and all the other “progressives” who are actively destroying our country, aren’t you?

    • TheOriginalDaveH

      mark, you were given away long ago. You are the typical worthless Liberal Progressive Shill who isn’t here to debate specifics, but rather to launch ad hominem attacks and other Liberal Progressive Emotional techniques which work only on those with weak minds.

  • 4lifeandfreedom

    Ron Paul has been ahead of the “game” for a long time, evidently.
    The scheme of offering investment in the government as a retirement account for 5% is in the making, correct? But, anyone who falls for it will have the government as beneficiary of their money, not their heirs. Be careful of the snake oil pushers!

    • Oliver_K_Manuel

      I agree.

      Ron Paul was the one that might have saved us from this path to certain self-destruction.

      See messages sent to Congress:

      https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/10640850/Creator_Destroyer_Sustainer_of_Life.pdf

      • TheOriginalDaveH

        There are many who could save us, but first we must open our eyes and our minds.
        For Free Markets, Property Rights, Limited Government, Personal Responsibility, Individual Freedom, and the PEACE that accompanies those — Vote Libertarian!
        http://www.lp.org/
        http://www.lp.org/platform

        • Vis Fac

          Liberal one dimensional idiot-ology has all but killed any hope of personal responsibility and thought.

          Our children have been indoctrinated since kindergarten to accept and embrace liberal dogma.

          The only way to disrupt or break the cycle is to re-take our schools and eliminate the unions especially the NEA

          “Common Core” as is now being pushed is no different than the other liberal teachings only re arranged and re named producing the same functionally illiterate automatons.

          Libertas inaestimabilis res est
          Semper-Fi

    • independent thinker

      I read an article last night that suggested Ron Paul be made the next head of the Federal Reserve. Not that there is a chance it will happen but things sure would be interesting if Ron was appointed to head up the Fed.

      • S.C.Murf

        Pres. Kennedy signed exec. order 00111 to abolish the fed and the killed him. First order of business for Pres. Johnson was to cancel exec. order 00111.

        up the hill
        airborne

  • vietnamvet1971

    The Gimme-mint Ponzi Scam Monster called The Big, Bad, Behemoth,Bloated, Bankrupt Gimme-mint will Crash on its self and of course it is We the People that always suffer for their Greed & Power to keep us under their rule.

  • KG

    Bob is completely off-course again. But that’s not unusual for Fright-wing conspiracy whackos.

    quote:So what should you do? First, stop thinking conventional thoughts. They are not your own.

    This sounds like a cult leader telling his flock “…Don’t mind the man behind the curtain!”

    I thought all of yous so-called ‘Patriots’ were proud of your independent thinking? I guess if Bob want’s to sell you some more subscriptions, he has to make you feel stupid or something.

    Here is the document that Bob uses to prove that Americans do not need to pay taxes:
    http://www.constitution.org/tax/us-ic/cmt/ruml_obsolete.pdf

    However, much like the kid who orders X-ray vision eyeglasses, the moral of this story is just as full of Bravo Sierra as the marketers of X-ray vision.

    For one thing, the ‘solution’ for tax-free economies is “…the gaining of vast new experiences in the management of central banks.”

    Now, didn’t our ascended master, Bob, just tell us a central bank IS UNNECESSARY?

    I think Bob wants to be a god, but first he will have to prove his worthyness to the TRUE BOB!

    • Oliver_K_Manuel

      Sorry, but you are misinformed.

      • WTS/JAY

        Not only misinformed, but delusional. Wanna-be cult-leader and god of all, KG, is off his meds again! What ever you do, if KG offers you a drink, don’t take it. Remember Jimmy Jones?

        • http://www.thefreedomtrainusa.com/ FreedomTrainUSA

          Talking to a Liberal is like DROPING A BOWL OF JELLY BEANS….They are all over the place…and who cares…

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            Who cares? Anybody who values Freedom.

          • KG

          • http://www.thefreedomtrainusa.com/ FreedomTrainUSA

            ??

          • KG

            WTF??? THATS WHAT I MEANT!

          • KG

            Talking to a Republican is like….like…..like talking to a Republican! All ‘wallet’ and no ‘heart’!

          • Vis Fac

            “If a person is not a liberal by age 20 he has no
            heart. However, if he was not a conservative at age 30 he has no brain!” — Sir Winston Churchill

            KGB YOU HAVE NO BRAIN

            Libertas inaestimabilis res est
            Semper-Fi

          • http://www.thefreedomtrainusa.com/ FreedomTrainUSA

            KG….First off I am not a Republican…I am a Conservative…SECOND…WHAT IS ALL THE PRE-SCHOOL JIBBEISH THAT YOU POSTED??????

          • KG

            The difference between Republican and Conservative is like the difference between ‘Gay’ and ‘Homosexual’.

          • http://www.thefreedomtrainusa.com/ FreedomTrainUSA

            NO…Maybe in your Liberal Dictionary it is…

          • http://www.thefreedomtrainusa.com/ FreedomTrainUSA

            KG…Must be short for KGB…

          • http://www.thefreedomtrainusa.com/ FreedomTrainUSA

            Then the Difference between D****RAT and Liberal is like the Difference between IDIOT and INSANITY…

          • Nadzieja Batki

            Then you are admitting that it is the Republicans who have been paying the bills of all the Dems/Progs/Leftists wants and whims. Your con job on the producers is finally coming to an end. That “heart” guilt trip has finally come to an end. Your Dem/Prog/Leftist ideologues have abused the producers and businessmen more than enough.

      • KG

        Is this from the same intelligent idiot who has been fooled by the Fright-wing conservatives into thinking that there is a conspiracy behind Climate Change?

        Yes, the repulsion of electrons has unleashed an incredible source of energy. Unfortunately, the only real use is to prevent another country from launching one of their own ‘electron repulsion’ devices.

        • Vis Fac

          Your problem is you have no electron activity between your ears. You can only parrot what your owners (union and government) tell you to repeat.

          You see yourself as a celebrity but I see you as the typical adolescent who thinks they know everything when in reality they don’t

          Libertas inaestimabilis res est
          Semper-Fi

          • Average_Joe56

            “Your problem is you have no electron activity between your ears. ”

            There is also a short between his seat and the keyboard

          • Vis Fac

            Is that because of the Pb in his A$$ from having a UNION Job that requires that he only show up?

            Libertas inaestimabilis res est
            Semper-Fi

          • S.C.Murf

            Force Recon what’s between kgb’s ears is called an E.I.B., educated idiot box. Bill hit upon it kg doesn’t want to up set his gravy train and he is pure evil as Orig. Dave put it

            up the hill
            airborne

          • Vis Fac

            I have reservations about the “educated” part more like programmed as opposed to any education.

            Libertas inaestimabilis res est
            Semper-Fi

        • Vis Fac

          Climate Change; Lets see now it is climate change but somehow was changed from GLOBAL WARMING which hasn’t been proven to suit your new agenda.

          As you are the resident expert and no doubt have been alive since the (liberal big bang theory) you can provide a detailed report of all climate change including the ice age and other weather related phenomena right?

          If you can’t you are as full of hot air than the moronic global warming proponents that can only provide CONJECTURE and not verifiable facts.

          KGB you have no credibility and can only provide utter nonsense and now I OWN YOU!! Since I do I’ll place you with the other liberal garbage being circulated by your fellow morons in the appropriate receptacle

          Libertas inaestimabilis res est
          Semper-Fi

    • Average_Joe56

      “Here is the document that Bob uses to prove that Americans do not need to pay taxes:”
      Funny, I checked Bob’s links …and this wasn’t one of them. If you keep telling yourself that you are intelligent…someday, you may actually start to believe it…the rest of us….not so much. As to the rest of your comment…just more “claptrap” from an uninformed idiot….or intentional misinformation from a paid shill (AKA TROLL).
      In the future, if you want to convince others, you may wish to consider offering up “real” evidence rather than your convoluted lies and misinformation. When you post crap like that, you only serve to show your lack of integrity, honesty, credibility and intelligence.
      Before you attack me with another of your opinion pieces…please note…I don’t care. You only serve to indict yourself further by doing so.
      Ramble on….

      • WTS/JAY

        This man is not stupid, Joe. On the contrary, KG may very well be the most evil person and liar-extraordinaire on the planet! Imagine if you will, what this man could accomplish if ever he were to use his genius for good rather than evil…? Such a waste of humanity and talent!

        • Bill

          Hi Jay,
          KG, is living in a fantasy world supported by govt handouts. He makes stuff up because he does not want to upset his gravy train

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            No Bill, Jay is correct. KGB is pure Evil. His arguments change depending on his momentary goal. He is a Shill.

          • Bill

            You could be right, Dave
            His lies change like the days of the week. My comments were being nice to him. But he is the enemy who wants to take away our freedoms and destroy our lifestyles. I guess “Evil” could be a good description

        • KG

          • Vis Fac

            I knew it you see yourself as some sort of Celebrity. Well the regard I have for celebrity can be summed up like this.

            Why would anyone give credence to a hypocritical elitist moron who resides in La La Land who makes their living pretending to be someone else

            Exactly as I see you a hypocritical elitist moron>

            You are OWNED by the unions and the government so why give credence to anything you say?

            Libertas inaestimabilis res est
            Semper-Fi

          • WTS/JAY

            The Obama-administration?

          • JeffH

      • Vis Fac

        “If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus
        becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.” Dr. Paul Joseph Goebbels 10/29/1897 – 5/1/1945 Minister of Propaganda Nazi Germany

        Libertas inaestimabilis res est
        Semper-Fi

    • http://www.thefreedomtrainusa.com/ FreedomTrainUSA

      N/A

    • Bill

      You are ranting again KG
      Have you been drinking again?

    • TheOriginalDaveH

      KGB says “Bob is completely off-course again. But that’s not unusual for Fright-wing conspiracy whackos”.
      Hard evidence that KGB is a Shill sent here to disrupt the board. Why else would a Socialist Progressive stick up for Central Banks?

    • TML

      KG says, “For one thing, the ‘solution’ for tax-free economies is “…the gaining of vast new experiences in the management of central banks.”
      Now, didn’t our ascended master, Bob, just tell us a central bank IS UNNECESSARY?”

      Central banks may not be a problem in and of themselves, so long as they do not have the power to print paper without any ‘real’ money backing it. Paper money isn’t really money – it is a receipt for real money… the most generally accepted medium of exchange. It’s this printing (fractional reserve banking) – which is nothing more than legalized counterfeiting – that is the problem causing inflation. And inflation makes your money worth less and less, which is why it takes more of it to buy the same items. In any other business on the planet, such practice would be a crime. There is no denying this. It’s simple logic.

      • TheOriginalDaveH

        Good job, TML.

        • KG

          bootlicker, toady, an Ed McMahon of the world!

      • KG

        The difference is that modern technology has made the problem of ‘excess warehouse receipts’ AKA ‘money’ almost superfluous.

        90-100% of the dollars that are printed are for the exchange for worn-out dollars. Most of the money in America is in a ‘virtual’ form as ‘credits’ on a computer screen. The so-called ‘quantitative easing’ was done on a computer screen. That’s why something like the Wiemar Republic will NEVER HAPPEN HERE! At least as long as the supply of physical dollars are being continually regulated. And the biggest regulator of physical money is the Wealth that’s tied-up in the accounts of wealthy people. People siting on piles of cash and refusing to invest in anything other than a tax shelter. That’s why the recovery as well as the TARP money has failed to generate any substantial recovery.

        • TML

          KG says, “90-100% of the dollars that are printed are for the exchange for worn-out dollars.”

          It is true that about 90-95% is printed as a replacement, but the other 5-10% is legalized counterfeiting with no real backing. That may not seem like much, but once you take the Exponential Function of 5-10% growth per year in available dollars, it becomes a serious problem. Thus, the next year at that same 90-95% includes the 5-10% from the previous year, and the year after that, ad infinitum.

          KG says, “Most of the money in America is in a ‘virtual’ form as ‘credits’ on a computer screen. The so-called ‘quantitative easing’ was done on a computer screen.”

          Which is still imaginary money. ‘Credit’ is a banking scam that makes one indebted to the lender – a slave. It’s a way of spending money you don’t have.

          KG says, “That’s why something like the Wiemar Republic will NEVER HAPPEN HERE! At least as long as the supply of physical dollars are being continually regulated.”

          History will teach the same lesson it always had on this issue. It can only be avoided for so long until the dollar becomes worthless. Ever hear the old saying, “not worth a continental”?

          KG says, “And the biggest regulator of physical money is the Wealth that’s tied-up in the accounts of wealthy people. People sitting on piles of cash and refusing to invest in anything other than a tax shelter. That’s why the recovery as well as the TARP money has failed to generate any substantial recovery.”

          One could say that such hording was the reason for the quantitative easing policy in the first place – after all, that was a problem in the past during the civil war in which people horded coins, which partly led to the printing of fiat currency to finance the war. The difference is, those who are sitting on their paper dollars,– whether real or electronic – are also losing value. And quantitative easing is the expressed policy of printing new bills to hedge the perceived deflation, which, in reality, leads to higher inflation in the longer term, due to increased money supply

          • KG

            Is the value of the dollar really THAT important? The ancient Romans used ‘fiat’ currency in the form of cheap copper coins for centuries and didn’t have the problems of Inflation. Because it was the SUPPLY of those coins that determined worth. It’s the DEFLATION of currency that destroys it. The ‘Continentals’ were deflated by demanding GOLD instead of the ‘warehouse receipts’ for the payment of taxes.
            Those ‘fiat’ dollars that Lincoln had printed were still in use until the 1920’s. Because the People knew the worth was not in the money but in the items that could be purchased with that money.

      • WTS/JAY

        Excellent!

    • Vis Fac

      KGB you are right regarding ” Conventional” thoughts not being our own for in fact they are liberal one dimensional idiot ology propagated by moronic automatons like you who obediently spread the lies and half truths to garner control of the public in other words you are OWNED by the government.

      As for paying taxes the government like anything else government related is for CONTROL purposes. Government uses the IRS as its “Gestapo” to impose its will upon the public . They will use intimidation and FORCE if you don’t comply with the governments demands. FYI if you owned a printing press and could print all the money you could why would you impose a tax unless it is for control?

      As usual you are 100% WRONG and owned by the unions and government.

      Libertas inaestimabilis res est
      Semper-Fi

      • KG

        What kind of ‘civilization’ would you like to live in that DOESN’T TAX its citizens? Somalia? Afghanistan? The purpose of Civilization and Government is to provide a way for Men to live together WITHOUT killing each other. The FORCE and CONTROL you hate is what make a society – wither it’s through social mores or jackbooted thugs. Our ‘Founding Fathers’ hoped that it could be through the common recognition of each mans right to live. That Men through their common ‘welfare’ could live amongst each other in peace and prosperity.

        But it sounds like you want a state of anarchy so you can use your AR-15 to kill “liberals’ or other undesirables – like Negroes and Spics. Right?

        • WTS/JAY

          We are not talking about the need of a limited-government and funding that government by way of a reasonable amount of taxation, Kg, but rather; we are talking about “theft” via “fiat-currency” by the Fed-reserve; a privately owned, central-bank. Do try and stay on topic, Mr. Marx.

          • KG

            quote: We are not talking about the need of a limited-government and funding that government by way of a reasonable amount of taxation…….

            THAT”S A FIRST FROM A REPUBLICAN/RIGHT_WING/LIBERTARIAN/NAZI !!!!

          • WTS/JAY

            Get a hold of yourself, KG, and debate like a man rather than a beast.

          • KG

            I am not debating, I am trying to show what idiots yous guys really are. To debate foolishness is foolish. I would rather debate on how to implement Universal Healthcare while improving the economy rather than how to make our president look as bad as I can so OUR next guy wont look so bad.

          • WTS/JAY

            KG: I would rather debate on how to implement Universal Healthcare while improving the economy rather than how to make our president look as bad as I can so OUR next guy wont look so bad.

            Good luck with that, KG. Your president doesn’t need our help to make him look bad, he’s doing a very good job of that all by his lonesome.

        • Vis Fac

          Why would you bring up a scenario of what others do if you weren’t planning on having the same scenario here in America? Apparently you lost focus on what our founding fathers had in mind when they authored Th Declaration of Independence and OUR Constitution and The Bill of Rights

          The Constitution DOES NOT give government Carte Blanche control of the people In fact the Constitution states the government is OF the people For the people and BY the people. Is this the case today? What we have today is communist socialist liberal control run .

          People who have freedom do not need to kill one another, I could care less what one does as long as it is not harming me or my family. Most people are relatively at ease with their neighbors if that weren’t the case murder and mayhem would be commonplace. If one is intent on harming society then society should eliminate the offender.

          Only when you introduce a system of restrictive rules regulations and laws do you have discord.

          The essence of government is only to provide protection from FOREIGN oppression not to oppress its citizens.

          You obviously have your own version on anarchy and as I stated earlier if one oversteps ones bounds in an anarchical society threats would be met with the appropriate measure.

          As it is now I feel more threatened by the police and our government than anyone else.

          I don’t have to worry if my neighbor is going to amass a team of SWAT members to take my food from me ot think I am a drug dealer and break down my front door tearing my home and property up to find nothing all on an “anonymous” tip then leaving without having to take responsibility for their mistake.

          I am more afraid of morons like you who have been programmed by the government and are therefore owned by same.

          Only in your twisted mind’s eye would you think I would arbitrarily assault anyone especially those who you blatantly chose to mention To that end you are SICK as I never inferred let alone said so!

          YOU and only YOU decided that I did !!! Maybe that is something your sick mind would want to support your sick inane agenda.

          I have no use for a cancer like you You are a POX on society and should be ISOLATED so you don’t contaminate others!!!!

          Libertas inaestimabilis res est
          Semper-Fi

          • nc

            Force, you are a typical conservative hypocrite! You and your ilk say you “could less what one does as long as it is not harming my family and friends.” That is unless they want to have an abortion or go to a restaurant or movie where there are no guns! Or have an ID to vote for the first times in their life at a precinct that has never had a fraud case! I’m sure you family loses sleep over these matters that are “harming” them so daddy can blast liberals!

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            NutCase,
            If you want to go to a restaurant that doesn’t allow guns, then do it. Who is stopping you?
            I would like to go to restaurants where the people are well-armed so that if a pushy Liberal Progressive psycho bursts onto the scene, somebody can stop him. But you Controlling Liberals do everything you can to stop people from protecting themselves. You are accessories to the murders of all the victims who you have made defenseless.
            This what you sick creeps have done to good people:

          • Vis Fac

            Being an American with the right to keep and bear arms I exercise that right where ever I go despite all the rules forbidding so and when I do I never announce that I am armed so you or anyone else would be none the wiser.
            That is; UNLESS I was forced to prevent some NUT CASE like NUT CASE here going all Adam Lanza in public. Then I’ll bet there would be plenty of grateful people I disobeyed the law.

            Libertas inaestimabilis res est
            Semper-Fi

          • Vis Fac

            OK Nut Case You typically take what anyone says out of context to suit your own agenda, Speaking of HYPOCRISY how does it taste to eat crow? As if you care about preventing abortions like ODUMBO cares about murdered school children. Both of you are so cavalier and hypocritical it’s sickening.

            What do you know about losing sleep? What do you know about reality? NOTHING. What would you say or think if someone told you that you weren’t important enough to merit consideration form being aborted? There for the grace of God do you exist. If your parents weren’t responsible you wouldn’t be around to spread the filth you do.

            You are shallow clown who views th world through rose colored glasses and because you believe it so the worlds’ woes magically disappear.

            You have partaken of too much liberal Kool Aid and are threatened by the truth. ODUMBO OWNS you I merely laugh at you!!!

            Libertas inaestimabilis res est
            Semper-Fi

        • Nadzieja Batki

          Such desperation BS you are slinging.

        • Nadzieja Batki

          Cagey, why when you were weaseling people didn’t you see the end result of your Dem/Prog/Leftist ideology? How far into the future did you think the consequences would be postponed. You gave the nation the harshness and coldness of O’s dominion so why aren’t you relishing it.
          You and your ideologues are planning to create some anarchy and then blame it on whom?

          • KG

            Whats the end result of Republican/Right-Wing/Libertarian ideology?

            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi_concentration_camps

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            Cagey, how would Libertarians, who advocate Small Government, lead to tyranny? Hitler was a Socialist. Your Socialist’s have killed more people in purges, by far, than any other Political Group.
            That’s why you have no credibility on this board, KGB.

          • KG

            Whats the ‘smallest Government’?

            A Dictator.

            That’s why ‘libertarians’ are little Mussolinis. They all know ‘what’s best for you’.

          • Karolyn

            What? Libertarians are the opposite of that. It’s people who support big government that claim to know what’s best for you, no matter what their political affiliation – For example. what you can put into your body or what you HAVE to put into your body, like flu shots.

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            You’re a sick puppy, Cagey. And you’re Evil.
            Sea Kelp.

          • KG

            I knew it all along. To tell you the truth, most of what I have said about Libertarianism were thoughts I had about it after talking to and listening to many people like yourself. And it hasn’t disappointed me yet. A response like this just confirms those thoughts.

        • TheOriginalDaveH

          Don’t talk as if you know what the Founders wanted, KGB, you Commie infiltrator.
          The Founders knew the danger of Power in the hands of the Few. They tried to protect us, but unfortunately the desires of psychopaths are difficult to contain:
          http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/05/beware-the-psychopath-my-son/

        • TheOriginalDaveH

          Maybe the kind of people you pal with, KGB, would be killing each other without Government, but my friends and neighbors are polite and generous to each other without the coercion of Big Government.

          • KG

            Yea….Right…..

            Take that thin veneer off and see what happens. Eliminate all of your neighbors Government – like police, Social Security, Electricity, clean water, etc and see how ‘polite and generous’ they are.

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            We would have more polite security people who actually did have a duty to protect us (unlike the Police), we would have Greater Savings, Cheaper Electricity, and Cleaner Water (no forced flouridations, etc.), because none of the previous would be guaranteed monopolies and they would all get their money from voluntary purchasers.

          • Vis Fac

            I’d be more than happy living without police I generate my own electricity and don’t need or take Social security My water supply is more pure than your chemically treated sewer water that is piped to your home and you “think” is clean.

            You are entirely MAD so mad it’s SAD that you actually believe the Police are there to protect you. All they can do is fill out reports after your body has been sent to the morgue ot in some instances shoot you because you didn’t obey their Gestapo orders.

            Social Security maximum benefit is $2,533 per month hardly enough for a retired couple to pay for rent let alone utilities and if you depend on that by the time taxes are taken out and other necessities will leave them/you in a hole.

            Some of ODUMBO’S executive orders allows for the government take over of Utilities, Private Food Supplies, Farms, Water Districts Sea Ports Air Ports and other infrastructure. when that occurs you’ll have ZIP-ZILCH-+NADA

            KGB you are a FOOL not to mention a MORON

            Libertas inaestimabilis res est
            Semper-Fi

          • KG

            At ‘Compound Force Recon’ you are surrounded by ‘the golden horde’ of the so-called ‘unprepared’ starving masses in your future distopian world you long for.

            You take out your rifle and start shooting people who want to take your food.

            You kill about a dozen or so and realize that they are still coming.

            After a few days the bodies are piled in your front yard. but people still come forward.

            Now it’s been a week and the people still come forward, however, you have run out of bullets……

            The last thought through you mind before they slowly bleed you to death is the thought….

            …there will always be more humans than bullets….

            RIP

          • Vis Fac

            Just because you don’t have the common sense to come in out of the rain doesn’t mean others don’t. You can mock me all you wish and when (not if) TSHTF you will be sadly unprepared for what awaits you.

            Should you be able to find Compound Force Recon ( I seriously doubt you could as you have trouble finding your behind with both hands) It would be you who would be stupid enough to crawl over a dead body not realizing the same fate awaits you if you continue. I know you assume others will do the same and ignore the danger that is in plain sight

            Liberal idiots like you think everyone is as stupid as you so because you are more stupid that qualifies you for a leadership position.

            You are pathetic

            Libertas inaestimabilis res est
            Semper-Fi

          • KG

            quote: Liberal idiots like you think everyone is as stupid as you…

            No,I do not think, I KNOW!!!

            Caput stercoris ,
            Mentulam Caco!

          • Karolyn

            $2533 per month! A retired couple can live very well on that much money if they’re not materialistic. Materialism is one of this country’s biggest problems.

          • Nadzieja Batki

            No it is not. It is also none of your business what people consider important in their lives. Dictating to people again.

          • Jack

            TheOriginalDaveH:

            How could you be associating with such low lifes? It violates all your mises/randian principals. Generosity you say – what blasphemy!

      • NC

        Force, you say liberals are owned by the government! I am a liberal> What rights do you have under the Constitution that I have sold out to the government!? Real slowly I am going to tell!!NOT A DAMNED ONE!
        WHAT WE LIBERALS HAVE DONE IS TO BECOME A PART OF A PARTY THAT IS SMART ENOUGH TO GET ELECTED! YOU SHOULD TRY IT SOMETIME AND YOU WOULDN’T BE SO MISERABLE ALL THE TIME!

        • TheOriginalDaveH

          Real Slowly Screaming? I’m so glad you’ve enlightened us, NutCase. But do we have to listen to your screaming all the way to the bottom?

        • Vis Fac

          You ARE OWNED instead of being in the Cheering section urging ODUMBO to slowly eliminate YOUR personal liberties. you’d be putting up a stink that YOUR personal freedoms are being assaulted. IF you are apathetic again you are OWNED!!!

          Liberals are a party that STEALS elections through lies FRAUD or any means possible. Something to certainly be proud of!!!

          Libertas inaestimabilis res est
          Semper-Fi

          • nc

            Sure thing Force! Any election that your side loses is stolen! What would that be?22 in a row that that have been STOLEN from the lie-bertarians?
            Intelligent adult independents read your “stolen elections” s**T and laugh their butts off!! Pitiful excuses!!

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            What do Libertarians lie about, NutCase?
            I’m not very good at telling lies, but I’ll try my hand at it:
            NutCase is an intelligent, honest, generous, compassionate, and likable guy.

          • Vis Fac

            Well I suppose lame stream media being owned by liberals spewing tons of lies and deceit is not considered FRAUD Right

            Poor excuse from you to try and say otherwise. It is what it is and sooner not later it will catch up then you’ll wish you were more honest with yourself instead on being the imbecile you are

            Libertas inaestimabilis res est
            Semper-Fi

        • Motov

          So,… are you suggesting we should be calling YOU bigots, racists, etc every time you make a remark?
          And when you blame the shrub for Obozo’s failures, we just pass that buck right onto Bill Clinton, rig elections so counties, districts get 100% of the votes, Lie at every press conference, relying on teleprompters, insist new laws to be signed before they are read/debated.
          Then by use of executive orders strike down laws that do not fit your agenda, create laws that do?

        • TheOriginalDaveH

          So in other words, NutCase, you are a lemming.

    • vicki

      KG demonstrates how to loose a debate by writing:

      Bob is completely off-course again. But that’s not unusual for Fright-wing conspiracy whackos.

      Ad hominem and argument to ridicule.

      no need to bother reading the rest. Debate win to Bob and Co.

      • KG

  • Bill

    Let’s look at the real cause of inflation.

    I read an article in Forbes magazine that gave their own “Nobel Peace Prize” for economics to Clark Gable and Chill Wills. It was based on a movie that they did in 1941 called “Honky Tonk” that shows exactly why we have inflation.

    It opens up with Clark and Chill riding down the road, they had just been evicted from a town for cheating while gambling. Clark says to Chill “The next town we get to, we have to take it over legally”. So, they get to the next town, get the confidence of the citizenry, Chill gets elected mayor and Clark gets elected Sheriff.

    One day Clark decides to bring in all of his buddies to be his deputies. He goes to Chill for approval but Chill says ” We do not have the money to pay for your deputies”. Clark says ” Sure you do, just raise the price of your damn beans”.

    So now you have the same beans that cost the same amount to grow, ship and mark up in the store, now cost 5 cents more to pay for Clark’s new deputies. The moral of the story is that the more you grow the public sector, the more you increase inflation.

  • Jim B

    Fiat currency is essentially a government stock, which is now so close to having no earning power that those who did hoard it are moving it into real industry stocks and stock funds, thus the market increases, everybody with a little bit of money is looking for cover while the ignorant masses take it where the sun never shines. But truly, market don’t like this because it over values companies and their earning power which leads to larger sways and bigger ups and even bigger downs. Banks don’t like it because they can’t lend when the savings accounts are empty… no capital – no loans, no capital coverage results in no earnings for them so they fail. All except the Central Bank’s, aka the FED’s, put in charge of the governments fiat currency stock a long time ago (totally unconstitutional of course), they haven’t been very good stewards of our treasure, uh (they’re running a Ponzi scheme with themselves)! But what the hell, half the county is in a fog and thinks the stuff still grows on trees (just ask any college student), ignorance is bliss they say, I and a few others will remain tortured for the rest of our lives.

  • http://www.rt.com Alondra
    • Vis Fac

      I just received this in an email The content says a lot about the character of The POTUS and how low he’ll stoop to FORCE HIS agenda please pass it along. Liberals will jump for joy as they have denounced God

      “While most of the nation focuses on the shutdown of the federal
      government, the brave members of America’s armed forces continue to answer the call of duty.

      Meanwhile, President Obama is shamefully using the partial government shutdown as an excuse to once again attack the First Amendment religious liberties of our military men and women.

      The Obama administration has forbidden contracted Christian military chaplains from voluntarily performing mass, worship, baptisms, and other religious practices on base during the government’s partial shutdown.

      They’ve even gone so far as to threaten the chaplains with arrest!

      Everyone should be repulsed by the arrogance and self-importance of this president — placing self-serving political goals above the sacred religious liberties of our troops.

      My heart goes out to our brave soldiers, who sacrifice every day to protect our nation from its enemies both at home and overseas. Your’s should as well!

      Libertas inaestimabilis res est
      Semper-Fi

      • Karolyn
        • Vis Fac

          Why would anyone pay attention to liberal propaganda? Anyone with enough money and motivation can open a website to promote their agenda.
          The Source I received this from is credible a Military chaplain if you must know If you care to believe solely what is on the internet you have compromised all reasoning you might have had.

          Libertas inaestimabilis res est
          Semper-Fi

          • Karolyn

            I certainly would not call Skeptoid a liberal propaganda source. The contributors deal with the facts they unearth. I generally disagree with a lot of what their findings are, especially around certain topics like health issues. However, they do make me think.

          • Vis Fac

            Contributers as Wiki relies on that remain unverified. Contributions that any crackpot with a keyboard can provide? Those contributions? PULEEEZE
            Those who place their trust (and reputation) in unverified sources are not only Foolish but Stupid!!!
            QUESTION EVERYTHING

            Libertas inaestimabilis res est
            Semper-Fi

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            How can you be so awake about Government messing with your Health Choices, but otherwise be so asleep about all the other meddling they do?

          • Karolyn

            I’m not.

          • Vis Fac

            Oh but you are most every one of your posts confirms it!!

            Libertas inaestimabilis res est
            Semper-Fi

          • Karolyn

            You need to read a little better. I am most certainly NOT in support of a heavy-handed government. There are too many laws and too much waste.

          • Vis Fac

            Then I suggest you consider what you post as what we sees is most often the opposite!

            Libertas inaestimabilis res est
            Semper-Fi

          • Karolyn

            I would suggest you pay closer attention to what I post. Yes, I do post some things that might seem contrary, but I like to see both sides of any issue. it helps to get both sides of a story before deciding what to support.

          • KG

            quote:Why would anyone pay attention to liberal (ANY) propaganda? Anyone with enough money and motivation can open a website to promote their agenda.

            Yes. Just like Newsmax, Center for Western Journalism, Worldnetdaily and, let us not forget the Republican Cheerleader of Conservative bias in American Journalism FOX.

            Newsmax and Worldnetdaily owned by the same people who exploited the Vince Foster suicide for Republican advantage.

            The Center for Western Journalism is actually owned by IRAN!!!!

            Fox is owned by Richard ‘talk like a pirate’ Murdoch.

            Matthew 15:14
            King James Version (KJV)
            14 Let them alone: they be blind leaders of the blind. And if the blind lead the blind, both shall fall into the ditch.

          • Vis Fac

            You Just validated my point. I ascribe to what Benjamin Franklin offered as prudent advice. “Believe none of what you read and hear and half of what you see”
            You being a liberal do none of these as you continually cite leftist propaganda which holds as much water as a sieve come to think of it a sieve is rather descriptive of your brain nothing stays but the garbage.

            Unlike you I question everything Unlike you I have living resources in various parts of the globe that know more than all the media combined.
            You are a waste of space on the planet your carbon footprint is enormous from all the bovine excrement you produce.

            The UNIONS and ODUMBO OWN you intellectually and academically I OWN YOU!!
            Libertas inaestimabilis res est
            Semper-Fi

          • KG

            You want the truth, YOU CAN”T HANDLE THE TRUTH!

          • KG

            You want the truth, YOU CAN”T HANDLE THE TRUTH!

          • Vis Fac

            Are you that insipid as to reference a cheesy line from a movie?

            As you have nothing of substance to offer as rebuttal you have just validated what I said earlier I OWN you academically as well as intellectually

            Libertas inaestimabilis res est
            Semper-Fi

          • KG

            so…you don’t want an orange whip?

          • Vis Fac

            You’ve lost it pal that’s why I OWN YOU!!!

            Libertas inaestimabilis res est
            Semper-Fi

          • Jack

            Force Recon:

            There you go again.

            just a reminder, they outlawed slavery 150 years ago,.

          • Vis Fac

            Jack A$$–Yes FORCED slavery has been outlawed but not volunteer indenturement! You indenture yourself when you post the moronic insipid remarks like you did here.

            The fact that you have NOTHING to support your argument/position other than the inanity you post means I OWN YOU – I STILL OWN YOU — I WILL ALWAYS OWN YOU

            Libertas inaestimabilis res est
            Semper-Fi

          • Jack

            Force Recon:

            You have it backwards. When I post something I have the facts and truth behind what I say. When you say something it is usually backed up by delusion and lies, whether you are making things up or just passing them along)..

          • Vis Fac

            More of your sophomoric anecdotal playground retorts? You did it No you did it right?

            OK have it your way.

            I just FLUSHED you

            Libertas inaestimabilis res est
            Semper-Fi

          • Robert Messmer

            Excuse please? “Newsmax and Worldnetdaily owned by the same people who exploited the Vince Foster suicide for Republican advantage.” Had the so-called suicide of Vince Foster been exploited both Bill “I don’t know what sex is” Clinton and his shyster wife Hilary “What difference does it make” Clinton would both still be in prison.

          • KG

            Tell me, what made Bil Clinton’s case different from Nixon’s case? Do you know why Nixon resigned and why Bill DID NOT? Nixon resigned because the only way he could prevent from being arrested and handcuffed in front of the White House was the fact that he couldn’t be president. So he resigned his office which made impeachment moot at that point.

            However, Clinton, knowing what he had done wasn’t illegal (maybe inappropriate, but that’s a different matter) DID NOT RESIGN. That’s the difference. Nixon knew he was guilty.

          • Robert Messmer

            You think Nixon was guilty of exactly what?

            Reason Bill didn’t was because they sent their goons over and kept the police from being able to investigate the crime scene.

  • WTS/JAY

    A short, brilliantly done funny skit that demonstrates very simply why we’re in this economic mess…

    https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=442376592507280

    • TheOriginalDaveH

      Very good, Jay. I sent that one to my children.

  • WTS/JAY

    The Truth about Money and Fiat Currency …

    http://www.realbullionwealth.com/#!the-money-deception/c20zt

    • hungry4food

      Its PAST TIME to Bring
      Back the “ BALANCE OF POWER IN THE U.S.A.” !!!!!!!!!

      • nc

        Hungry4food, what part of the “balance of Power” do you think the Libertarians should have with their one percent of the vote! ONE cabinet post+ 20 free seats in the Senate+100 free seats in the House! How much for the Repugnuts? All they can gerrymander???

        • TheOriginalDaveH

          As usual, NutCase, you make no sense. Which is why, of course, you vote for Liberal Progressive Democrats.

        • hungry4food

          OBAMA DOESN’T NEED ANY MORE MONEY POWER OVER THE FREE MARKETS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

        • hungry4food

          If Obama would get off his appeasing the Environmentalists platform
          and put some REAL economic growth Policies to work we the people could
          pay for and Prosper again , but he and his Marxist Environmentalists are
          to dang concerned with PEAK EARTH Ideology to do that oh no he would
          rather have the Federal Reserve print that 85 billion and run a 3rd of
          the GOV on that so the Environmentalists stay HAPPY with less growth ,
          but thats going to run us out of adequate supply and hyper inflation
          will be next !!!!!!!!!

          OBAMA DOESN’T NEED ANY MORE MONEY POWER OVER THE FREE MARKETS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

        • http://batman-news.com samurai

          Gerrymandering was done and is still done by the democrats. Just look at the Southern States. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
          You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot. This leaves you out.

    • KG

  • Patriot_Dave

    Ponzi schemes get very dicey when Most of the ‘Money’ piles up in ‘one spot’ and then the demand for using it or to repay ‘investors’ starts to out way it’s actual value and then the entire scheme implodes….. Sound familiar???… Not only does the government have a huge (negative) pile…the 1% as well,has a huge (positive) pile ….sooner than we think this ‘system’ will collapse…. We can’t have $37T stashed in offshore accounts and have a $17T National debt at the same time without some serious issues erupting…….The middle class is but a whimper of what it was…. Next to no ‘real’ value left in anything we own…..This is about as close as we can get to the brink of a world class economic collapse…. and still be able to talk about it….. When it does fold…there will be no more talking about….. Neither of these two groups will be willing to take ‘the’ loss…Who do you think will come out on top???

    • Melissa Kellison

      Whoa back up to offshore accounts. That’s actually another country paying you interest. Wouldn’t that be a good way to import wealth, as long as you remain a consumer of US goods and services? (as opposed to buying stuff like Roals Royces and Italian Gucchi leather shoes). Wouldn’t people with offshore accounts actually be a benefit to the economy this way?

      • Patriot_Dave

        There are issues with offshore accounts that most do not realize… Yes the money sits there collecting interest… but it is often not taxed or manipulated in ways to avoid US taxation… Yes, we hate taxes, but think about what the money would do if it were invested in building/rebuilding America’s manufacturing base… think of what it could mean to reducing the National Debt. Some have even called to have the have money ‘repatriated’ to the US and to give the ‘owners’ a break if they do invest it in the US for creating high paying careers and a solid manufacturing base…. Some believe they should be charged with Tax evasion and get no breaks at all. Most want the Laws changed so it cannot happen any more as with it’s ‘removal’ from the US ‘economy’ it dilutes our monies value…ultimately this money makes the US weaker and a few might even claim it ‘aids’ our enemies…..Are these offshore accounts treasonous? The Whos, the Hows and the Whys could use a little clarification….

  • Fred

    Closer to the title, this present U.S. regime is flat out STEALING money from citizens as well. I have been embroiled in a court battle seeking the return of funds that U.S. DHS seized the second the wire transfer processed some three years ago. In the course of this process I have discovered that there are billions, or even tens of billions, belonging, in aggregate, to U.S. individuals & small businesses being held without just cause by the U.S. government at any given time.

  • Vis Fac

    Dear Bob:

    I hate to tear asunder your concept of today’s “Conventional Wisdom” Conventional wisdom had died years ago when our public schools were taken over by the NEA and was replaced by Liberal one dimensional idiot-ology.

    The concept of conventional wisdom is perceived public acceptance of current
    policy which is far removed from traditional or conventional. In my mind’s eye Conventional wisdom is connected to rationality which too seems to have disappeared from society.

    The public has been conditioned to accept inflation as a way of life. They will pay whatever it costs to be the first to have the latest be it fashion or technology. It costs more for me to fill my gas tank that it cost to buy my first auto.

    I had to literally save and scrimp for six months to acquire the $50 to buy a car almost as old as I was. I cannot conceive of what it would cost to find another one.
    I equate the current economic trend and value of a dollar as having a full bottle of concentrated liquid dish soap. When you use some of the soap/spend your money there is less in the bottle and less money in your pocket ergo the more you use the less you have.

    To make it appear that you have the same amount of soap/money you add a little water/print more money and it appears you have what you started
    out with but the soap like the dollar have been diluted so it takes more soap to
    do the same job or more money to purchase the same items.

    If you continue to dilute the soap/print more money all you’ll have is water/worthless paper and you can’t wash a dish or even buy one for that
    matter.

    We cannot arbitrarily demand a higher salary as we must live within our means it seems as our government holds itself in higher esteem and can do what it wishes despite the damage it does to the economy.

    Libertas inaestimabilis res est
    Semper-Fi

  • red neck

    I think that all of you knew this was going to happen the day that obama was “elected” . If you didn’t then you must be a liberal.

  • LK

    It is a (false economy) an apparent financial saving that in fact leads to greater expenditure. It will eventually become a (caste system), and also they would like interest rates now to fall below zero – in other words, savers would pay the bank to hold their money.

    Insanity is a disease it exists from birth or from an early age. ( Oh God, that men should put an enemy in their mouths to steal away their brains !)

    Be ye wise.

  • Karolyn

    Equal time – This is an email I received from “People for the American Way”. However, I do believe that they are all to blame for the mess we’re in.

    “There is big money behind this Tea Party government shutdown and the potential upcoming debt default.

    Predictably, much of it leads back to the Koch brothers — a fact confirmed by the New York Times on Saturday.

    It’s terrifyingly clear that PFAW’s work to get big money out of our politics AND to defeat right-wing Republicans in the upcoming elections has never been more important.

    That’s not boasting, it’s a matter of urgency. I wish the threats we faced were not so grave, but they are, and we’ve never needed your help and your support more than right now.

    Yesterday, on ABC’s This Week with George Stephanopoulos, an obstinate John Boehner insisted that Tea Party Republicans would not budge on the shutdown and said the current path the Republicans have us on is toward default … all unless the GOP “gets something.”

    That’s not governing — that’s hostage taking! Can you imagine if a foreign entity threatened to blow up our economy if its demands were not met?

    We’re truly in uncharted waters here, but what I know — and what I know you know — is that if these tactics being used by Republicans work, the precedent set will have dire consequences for our country. We can’t let that happen.

    Thank you for continuing with us in this important fight to restore Government by the People and for the soul of our country.”

    • TheOriginalDaveH

      Damn the Children, Full Spending Ahead!

  • TIME

    My Dear People,
    Please take a moment, go to, Steve Quayle’s sight, then go to the
    ” Video of the day”
    Please view video #2,
    I feel this has very great importance to you that can get past any prejudice of any kind.
    Just listen to the man, understand the full value of what he is saying, by the way, you can verify all of it.
    **** On that NOTE:***** Make the bloody thing go “””Viral”””
    This information MUST get out. I have said it before, we had a “”Coup D’ etat”” – take place in 2012.
    Peace and Love to you that Love the Freedom that GOD granted you, If your not straight with Jesus Christ yet, please do so soon.

    • KG

      Yea….nothing like getting your news through a website that promotes it’s books on ancient Giants and space aliens. Why, they will even sell you GOLD!

      What did Christ think about ‘Moneychangers’?

      Michael Savage AKA Michael Wiener lives in San Francisco – you know, the land of fruits and NUTS.

      • TheOriginalDaveH

        Listen to that coming from a guy who regularly whines that Unionists aren’t getting paid enough.

        • KG

      • http://batman-news.com samurai

        You mean the land of Diane Feinstein and Nancy Pelosi? Yes, they are flakes and nuts. What did Jesus think about the money changers? About the same we think about Obama bin Laden and our current representatives in Washington, so what is your point? Don’t forget that the money changers were libturds and progturds. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
        You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot. This leaves you out comrade.

      • TIME

        Dear kg,
        Please note:
        I addressed people just like you in { sentence #3,} Please do reread it.
        As per your normal lackluster mental ability within all your response’s sadly this response from you – is not unexpected.
        But, I do thank you for clearly displaying yet again your wantant pernicious as well malicious behavior toward hard working people who are not bound by UNION THUGS.
        Its become your standard so hold it high & enjoy your blissful ignorance.
        May GOD have mercy on your soul.

        • KG

          I guess the spirit of G-d is not with you. I’m sorry.

          Matthew 5:43-45
          King James Version (KJV)
          43 Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy.
          44 But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;
          45 That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust.

          1 Thessalonians 5:21
          King James Version (KJV)
          21 Prove all things; hold fast that which is good.

          • TIME

            Dear kg,
            Yet once again you stand strong on the display of your utter as well lacking COMPRHENSION, thus any quotes you may post from KJV, is yet again displaying that standard of yours.
            But, again I digress to try and explain your short comings. Perhaps you should stick to your true Bible that you so love and follow.
            That of what was written to keep small minds in tight little box’s made by the state: the works of Karl Marx, your idol.
            May GOD have mercy on your soul

          • KG

            So…you must be an Ayn Rand Atheist? It figures. Only someone with as much self-importance would worship the goddess of selfishness.

            It must be really lonely being the genius that you are.

  • ChuckS123

    I’d say that something we could call rising prices = inflation minus productivity increases. Increasing the money supply raises prices, but increases in productivity decrease prices. If the money supply increases 10% and productivity increases 5%, prices maybe rise 5%. The private sector is generally increasing productivity all the time. However, too much gov regulation hurts productivity, maybe even reduces it with all the Obamaregs.

    One aspect of money supply is that when the fed prints more money, people spend some and save some. I think when people spend a large %, it’s like extra money in circulation. Economists talk about money velocity. I think people are saving a bit more nowadays, so the extra money doesn’t have quite the impact it might otherwise have.

    • red neck

      Well…. I hate to break it to you but…….
      The government OWNS wall st……
      And your pissy ass 401K is being manipulated daily.

    • red neck

      Understand one thing…. You have no control over your money!

    • TheOriginalDaveH

      This might explain, Chuck, why the Price Inflation has been relatively moderate (besides the fact that Government is understating the CPI):
      http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/archives/the-federal-reserve-is-paying-banks-not-to-lend-1-8-trillion-dollars-to-the-american-people

      • red neck

        A lot of air for a empty brain…. He/ She / It doesn’t care…
        Quoting Hilary Clinton…. At this point what difference does it make?

      • red neck

        No Dave I have not given up, I just want this to be at the top of the list. You are wasting time arguing but that is your scope. I have done the same with the same result… I now accept that the ones that I argue with are of no use and you should do likewise.
        these people are a pox and they know it… And they deserve the life of a pox.

  • red neck

    MR. Livingston has in so many words told you of the scam by the federal government, It is up to you at this point.

  • red neck

    I have to say that in so many words that I agree with the “government” shut-down but it is really a paid vacation for the bloated fat ass pigs that have no legitimate use in the first place….. The “sheeple” that are underneath the obama umbrella should by all means have their throat cut anyway…. Sounds mean huh?…. Quoting Hilary Clinton…. At this point what difference does it make?

  • http://batman-news.com samurai

    Once again fellow patriots the Samurai has come to join the fight, taking out as many libturds/progturds as he can. You know that good feeling you get when you clean up your yard, house, or work space and take out the garbage at the end? That is the feeling I get when I get rid of libturds and progturds. Here are some articles about Obama bin Laden Care and the shutdown caused by the democrats.
    http://www.redstate.com/2013/10/06/california-exchanges-sticker-shock-obamacare/
    http://www.redstate.com/2013/10/06/amber-alert-democrats-shutdown/
    http://www.redstate.com/2013/10/07/obamacare-or-the-debt-ceiling/
    FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
    You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot. This leaves Obama bin Laden out.
    “I have not yet begun to fight.”
    John Paul Jones

    • KG

      Still never found those Bible verses where Jesus says good things about religious people?

      • Deerinwater

        That’s rich KG . To think about it, ~ I can’t actually remember any mysel. ~ I remember the promise of “rewards” for the righteous. This runs deep though out scripture ~ “Reward for the Righteous” ~ Never die, eternal life~ joy and contentment, ~ enriched and blessed lives while at the same time the righteous are also promised to be tested and to suffer.

        it’s no wonder some many self proclaimed Christian manage to lose their way down a road that is promised to be wide while “the way” so very narrow.

        They manage to get some of the message ~ things that they seem to need at that time, like “forgiveness” but few get what they really need most, like ~ tools that can be applied to everyday life ~ making life simple, fun and joyful, lifting heavy burden that weight down the soul and spirit of man as he attempts to be so godlike and carry God’s burdens, burdens that he was never intended to carry. ~ Their head swells with “righteousness” and they get lost in the holy this and holy that and become insufferable judge and jury ~ and begin to see the devil in everything,

        if you (meaning anyone) ever really “gets it” ( a functional comprehensive understanding of who and what “we” really are, “our purpose” and to whom we are “to serve”) ~ it’s one of the best things in life that can happen to anyone. ~ while so few actually seem to, ~ for if they did, ~ we would “not have” all this insecurity, unrest, resentment, drama, hateful and mean spirited bickering going on 24/7.

        • KG

          Amen! Brother!

  • nanceinpa

    Yes Sir, this has been going on since 1913! The slow, silent thief who, little by little, takes everything you and yours and everyone else (who worked) worked for!! This, I believe, has a lot to do with people who fail to really pay attention to what their government is doing!! Obama bin Laden Care indeed! Here’s a petition to read and sign and pass on: http://www.dontfundobamacare.com/?c=79e127438d3dcfe0ab19d6740f368e57#whiplist