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The Growing Terror List And Brainwashing Of The Military

January 21, 2013 by  

The Growing Terror List And Brainwashing Of The Military
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Members of the U.S. military are increasingly being conditioned (i.e., brainwashed) into perceiving Constitutionalists, Tea Party members, 2nd Amendment advocates and members of the liberty movement as terrorists. And the list of groups that are “right-wing” terrorists continues to grow.

The Combating Terrorism Center at the U.S. Military Academy at West Point, N.Y., is out with a new report titled “Challengers from the Sidelines: Understanding America’s Violent Far Right.” The report lumps limited government activists into three categories it claims are responsible for 350 “attacks initiated by far-right groups/individuals” in 2011: racist/white supremacists, anti-Federalists and fundamentalists. The report did not define what makes an attack a “far-right” action, nor did it list specific events except to compare them to the bombing of the Alfred P. Murrah Building in Oklahoma City (a likely false flag attack exploited by President Bill Clinton to bolster his sagging Presidency) and the Atlanta abortion clinic bombing by Eric Robert Rudolf.

The report links the mainstream conservative movement and the violent “far right,” and describes conservatives as living in the past and liberals as being “future oriented.”

“While liberal worldviews are future- or progressive-oriented, conservative perspectives are more past-oriented, and in general, are interested in preserving the status quo,” the report says. “The far right represents a more extreme version of conservatism, as its political vision is usually justified by the aspiration to restore or preserve values and practices that are part of the idealized historical heritage of the nation or ethnic community… While far-right groups’ ideology is designed to exclude minorities and foreigners, the liberal-democratic system is designed to emphasize civil rights, minority rights and the balance of power.”

This paper will be used in the education of future Army officers, along with past papers on al-Qaida and other Islamic extremists attempting to gain power around the world.

On Friday, the Ohio Army National Guard conducted a training drill in which, “Two school employees who are disgruntled over the government’s interpretation of the Second Amendment, plot to use chemical, biological and radiological agents against members of the local community,” reports WSAZ NewsChannel 3.

“It’s the reality of the world we live in,” says Portsmouth Police Chief Bill Raisin. “Don’t forget there is such a thing as domestic terrorism. This helps us all be prepared.”

Actually, it’s another effort to perpetuate the false meme that legal gun owners are wild-eyed, crazed troglodytes bent on murder and mayhem.

In 2009, the Department of Homeland Security issued a report titled “Rightwing Extremism: Current Economic and Political Climate Fueling Resurgence in Radicalization and Recruitment.” Possible terrorists include people opposed to President Barack Obama; those upset by the high unemployment rate; supporters of gun rights; those who believe in conspiracy theories involving a coming martial law declaration and the creation of detention camps; those who stockpile food, ammunition and weapons in anticipation of a collapse; military veterans; and Christians. And a report from the Missouri Information Analysis Center called libertarians; supporters of Ron Paul, Bob Barr and Chuck Baldwin; and militia group members possible terrorists.

The Colorado FBI issued a report last year telling businesses to be suspicious of people who: are concerned about identity privacy; pay with cash; alter their appearance by changing their hairstyle or growing (or shaving) facial hair; have missing fingers and hands; make religious statements; and make bulk purchases of food, ammunition and high-capacity magazines.

These documents, coupled with the National Defense Authorization Act (which suspends habeas corpus and allows for the indefinite detention of “terrorists” arrested in the United States) and Obama’s executive order that allows U.S. Attorney General Eric (the gun trafficker) Holder to “review categories of individuals prohibited from having a gun to make sure dangerous people are not slipping through the cracks” are chilling.

As I have pointed out before, labeling as terrorists those who exercise their rights to oppose unConstitutional government is not designed to keep people safe. Nor are programs like the Department of Homeland Security’s “See Something, Say Something.” History has shown they are designed to quash dissenting views, stifle free speech and generate fear and suspicion.

These programs are ripe for abuse, with neighbors reporting neighbors in order to avenge some slight or end a disagreement or simply because of different political views. And brainwashing the military is setting the stage for a gun grab or some other Constitutional usurpation against American patriots.

It’s the mark of the end of a free society and fascist totalitarianism.

Bob Livingston

is an ultra-conservative American who has been writing a newsletter since 1969. Bob has devoted much of his life to research and the quest for truth on a variety of subjects. Bob specializes in health issues such as nutritional supplements and alternatives to drugs, as well as issues of privacy (both personal and financial), asset protection and the preservation of freedom.

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  • MexicansaysLibtardsRPukes

    The Govt gone criminally Insane!

    • Charlie

      Impeach Obama, Now!!!

  • Harold Olsen

    I wonder if the members of the military, especially those serving in Iraq and Afghanistan, are aware that when they get out of the military they, too, will be viewed as terrorists and possible terrorists by the Obama regime.

    • http://N/A CintiCB

      Hopefully, the members of the military will have a true sense of things when they realize that many of their votes were not counted in the most recent FARCE of an election.

    • To Tell The Truth

      Harold, what do you mean that the members of the military will be viewed as terrorists by the Obozo Misadministration. Obozo and his minions hate the military and it’s members with a firey passion now.

      • eddie47d

        How can you say you “tell the truth” when you lie so much? Its show and tell time for you. Since Obama and Biden are constantly praising the military and showing them honors I’ll take your comments with a grain of salt. Don’t use the McCrystal issue as an excuse because they had a mutual understanding but a different way of achieving the end means.

      • JeffH

        ATTENTION ATTENTION!

        POLL! Is EDDIE47D A CHRONIC LIAR?

        YES:

        NO:

        Please cast your vote in this column only.

        eddie has been accusing others of lying but will not confess or admit that he, himself, is a “CHRONIC LIAR”.

        This poll is designed to determine whether or not eddie47d is considered a chronic liar or not by the daily participant on this website.

        Disclaimer: this is an independant poll and this website has no affiliation with this poll whatsoever.

      • JeffH

        YES!

      • Kate8

        It’s actually worse than we think.

        So many in the military are on psych meds, as are more than half of this nation. This includes Obama’s private army (FEMA youth brigades).

        The basis of psych meds is fluoride, which causes people to be compliant, and to be unable to make rational decisions on their own, thus creating an army of soldiers who will obey any and all orders without considering the implications. These meds remove all ethical and moral inhibitions, so people are virtually without hindrance of conscience.

        This medicating of people with these dangerous drugs is unspeakable. When you consider that the goal of the elite is to create a nation of compliant zombies who will carry out their every whim, you can see where this is going.

        William Cooper warned us about this, too. With all of the kids who are on drugs, and who will grow up being on drugs, imagine what this country will be when we have an entire population which has no moral nor ethical restraint whatsoever. Just look at the liberal loons who are growing in numbers, and imagine a country filled with these people. When these kids grow up they will unleash on this country a horror we can’t really imagine.

        It wouldn’t take long before they would self-destruct. (I guess every cloud has its silver lining.)

        http://www.drugawareness.org/

      • Gordon

        Eddie= YOU don’t have a clue as to what is actually happening in the US military.

      • eddie47d

        Kate 8 brings up “FEMA youth brigades” and “private armies” and expects everyone to believe her. She brings up Fluoride and that the military is brainwashed with it when most civilian water departments since the 50′s ,plus toothpaste companies have been advocating for it. Laying it all on Obama when it has been going on for more than half a century takes away any credible reasoning.

      • mark

        If it is true that Obama despises the military, then can you tell me why he has increased the military budget year after year, and vastly expanded federal expenditures on the Veterans Administration, Veterans benefits, programs, and facilities over the last four years to the point where Conservative Republican budget hawks are complaining that Obama is spending far foo much on Veterans and Veteran health care in particular?

      • eddie47d

        Okay Gordon please inform me what I don’t know about the military? I’ll be listening.

      • mark

        Kate 8, flouride again?! We’re back to that Dr. Strangelove conspiracy theory from the 1950s? The government is drugging us all by poisoning our water. I guess that’s how they programmed Adam Lanza to carry out his Obama-orchestrated Sandyhook plot? Is there no crazy, off-the-wall, nutso plot that you people will not fall for as long as it makes your own government and the Obama Adminstration the absolute AntiChrist? Do you think that Bob Livingston works for the federal government, too? That this whole website is just a device to draw out and identify extremist Libertarians and anti-government types? I mean, you people would probably fall for that absurdity too, just about anything that someone puts forth that alligns with your most paranoid suspicions about everything in America? Anything that is paranoid and conspiratorial to the nth degree, you all jump right on board without a question or a doubt! Unreal. What a way to live. What a view of your own country and society? And do you teach all this to your children as well? That everything out there in the world is a federal government plot? The NRA, an obvious secretly-controlled, government-run agency to identify and locate all gun enthusiasts? Sure, why not! It must be!

      • Jibbs

        YES!!

      • Jibbs

        47d’s main problem is…….

        Pathological Liar – Impulsive, Compulsive Lying, Self-Deception

        ——————————————————————————–

        Pathological Liar – All About PATHOLOGICAL LYING, Lying, Self-Deception, Types, Classification, from Pseudologia Fantastica to Habitual Lying.
        1.

        Pathological Liar – Definition
        Pathological liar refers to a liar that is compulsive or impulsive, lies on a regular basis and is unable to control their lying despite of foreseeing inevitable negative consequences or ultimate disclosure of the lie. Generally lies told by a pathological liar have self-defeating quality to them and don’t serve the long term material needs of the person. Therefore pathological lying is lying that is caused by a pathology, occurs on a regular basis, is compulsive or impulsive & uncontrolled, and has self-defeating, self-trapping quality to it.

        Lying or self-deception is a part of everyday human interactions. In many cases lying can be beneficial for those who lie and those who are being lied to. Most of this type of lying with positive consequences occurs in a controlled way, thoughtfully, with careful weighting of beneficial consequences. Unlike these, the lies told by a pathological liar are uncontrolled and are likely to have damaging consequences.

        Pathological lying covers a wide range of lying behavior, from pseudologia fantastica to habitual lying. Lying is a commonly found clinical component with people who suffer from impulse control disorders such as gambling, compulsive shopping, substance abuse, kleptomania etc. Pathological lying is generally caused by a combination of factors, which may include genetic components, dysfunctional or insecure childhood, dyslexia or other type of cerebral dysfunction. Such conditions may host environment that is likely to emerge chronic or pathological lying as an adaptive defense mechanism. Dysfunctional family, parental overprotection, sibling rivalry, mental retardation are among many causes of pathological lying.

        2.

        Low Self-Esteem And Pathological Lying
        Low self-esteem is a commonly found feature in pathological liars. The lie maybe an attempt to feel good about themselves, generally for a short period of time, similar to the effect of drugs & alcohol. The same lie or deceit repeated over and over may create a myth of personal well-being or success or displacement of faults of own failures on others, thus creating an imaginary fantasy protection bubble, which may reinforce self-esteem. Pathological liars repeatedly use deceit as an ego defense mechanism, which is primarily caused by the lack of ability to cope with everyday problems in more mature ways (Selling 1942).

        3.

        Pathological Liar – Causes
        Causes of development of pathological lying can be, but are not limited to, one or more of the factors mentioned below:

        A dysfunctional family;
        Sexual or physical abuse in childhood;
        Neuropsychological abnormalities; such as borderline mental retardation, learning disabilities etc.
        Impulse control disorders; such as kleptomania, pathological gambling, compulsive shopping.
        Accommodating or suggestible personality traits;
        Personality disorders such as Sociopathic, Narcissistic, Borderline, Histrionic and more;
        Substance abuse or substance abuse in family;
        4.

        Pathological Liar – Types
        4.1

        Daydreaming Pathological Liar – Pseudologia Fantastica
        Some of the more extreme forms of pathological lying is Pseudologia Fantastica. This is a matrix of facts & fiction, mixed together in a way that makes the reality and fantasy almost indistinguishable. The pseudologue type pathological liar makes up stories that seem possible on the surface, but over time things start falling apart. Pseudologues have dynamic approach to their lies, they are likely to change the story if confronted or faced with disbelief, they have excessive anxiety of being caught and they desperately try to modify their story to something that would seem plausible to create or preserve a sense of self that is something they wish they were or at least something better than they fear others would find out they are. The excessive anxiety is driven by unusually low self-esteem, the person tries to hide reality by creating a fake reality, and once the story has enduring quality to it, he/she is likely to repeat it and if repeated enough times he/she might start believing in it as well. This reality escape can be triggered of a past incident or of an unbearable present for the pseudologue.

        About 30% of daydreaming pathological liars have brain dysfunction. For some it may take the form of learning disabilities, ex. dyslexia. Often those with cerebral dysfunction have greater verbal production & lower developed logical, analytical parts of the brain, thus they often fail to control verbal output.

        4.2

        Habitual Liar
        Habitual pathological lying is, as the name suggest, habitual. Habitual liar lies so frequently, that it becomes a habit, as a result, he/she puts very little effort in giving a thought about what the output is going to be, nor does he/she care much to process whether it’s a lie or not, it’s simply a reflex & very often can be completely unnecessary or even opposite to his/her own needs. If he/she stops & thinks about it, he/she knows clearly it’s a lie.

        Habitual liars lie for a variety of reasons, which include, but are not limited to:

        Take advantage of the situation or misguide a rival
        Avoid confrontation or punishment
        Cover up lack of knowledge
        Cover up embarrassment
        To entertain oneself or others
        Reinforce self-esteem, because of failing own expectation
        Receive unearned praise or avoid disappointment or disproval
        For no reason whatsoever
        Habitual liars gives very few if any psychical or vocal signs of lying, due to the effortless nature of lying. That said, since he/she gives a very little thought to his/her lies, they are usually inconsistent & obvious.

        Fear is a major contributor in developing habitual lying in a child & further advancement into adulthood, more so in conditions when the child finds truth telling results in more frequent or more severe punishment. Lack of appreciating and likelihood of unwanted consequences of telling the truth may result in frequent opting out for lying, which often involves less punishment & therefore becomes more desirable.

        4.3

        Impulsive Pathological Liar – Impulse Control Disorders & Lying
        Impulsive pathological liar lies due to impulse control problem, he/she lies to fulfill his/her present (in the moment) needs, without thinking of future negative effects that can be caused because of the lie. Impulsive pathological liar generally suffers from impulse control disorders, such as kleptomania, pathological gambling, compulsive shopping etc. Those suffering from impulse control disorders fail to learn from past negative experiences, frequently suffer from depression, likely to have history of substance abuse in family or have substance abuse problems themselves, likely to have deficiency in brain serotonin. Increase in brain serotonin may have positive effect in decreasing impulsiveness, such medication may have positive effects, however there hasn’t been clinical research performed to confirm or deny this theory.

        4.4

        Substance Abuse Associated Pathological Liar
        Self-Deception is an undeniable part of addictive process. People abuse alcohol or other drugs constantly lie to themselves & others to avoid embarrassment, conflict, as well as to obtain the substance. Getting off substance requires learning to distance oneself from the deceit, therefore learning to be truthful is generally a part of any Alcoholics Anonymous or Narcotics Anonymous program.

        5.

        Signs of Lying
        Human detection of deceit can be summarized by the following seven signs.

        7 Signs of Lying

        Disguised smiling
        Lack of head movement
        Increased rate of self-adapters (eg., movements such playing with an object in hands, scratching one’s head etc.)
        Increased/Heightened pitch of voice
        Reduced rate of speech
        Pause fillers (“uh”, “hm”, “er”)
        Less corresponding, matching nonverbal behavior from the other communication methods (ex. the movement of hands doesn’t match the substance of the lie that is being told orally)

      • Kate8

        eddie and mark – Oh, gee… I never saw THAT coming. LOL.

        It’s apparent that fluoridation has been a great success with you two. By all means, drink up. Wash down those meds, too. That way your conscience doesn’t hinder your treachery.

        You must get paid pretty well for being here every day, since it’s plain to see what the regulars here think about you. The way you are all such of one mind, we’d almost think you are one and the same person posting under different names… heh heh.

        As samurai would say… “do’h”.

      • JeffH

        Kate8, have you heard the lates regarding Obama’s “Red List” hit squad and targets.

        Prominent rifle manufacturer killed in mysterious car crash days after posting psych drug link to school shooters

        John Noveske, Noveske Rifleworks, was killed in a mysterious car crash just a few days ago, on January 4, 2013.

        John Noveske posted a lengthy, detailed post on Facebook that listed all the school shootings tied to psychiatric drugs. At the end of the post, he asked, “What drugs was Adam Peter Lanza on?” That was the last post he ever made.

        Keith Ratliff, the creator of a super-popular YouTube channel featuring videos of exotic weapons, was also recently found dead.

        The Daily Mail reports that Ratliff was “discovered on a rural road in Carnesville, Georgia. Ratliff had a single gunshot wound the head and police are treating his death as a homicide.”

        Someone murdered Ratliff, in other words, and it had to be someone with the ability to get close enough to Ratliff to take him out without warning.

        Beyond these two shootings, the widely-discredited CNN journalist Piers Morgan, wanted for questioning in Britain’s Daily Mirror phone hacking scandal, invited guests onto his show who threatened Alex Jones’ children and laughed about the idea of Piers Morgan shooting Alex Jones with an AR-15.

        http://www.naturalnews.com/038616_John_Noveske_mysterious_death_car_crash.html#ixzz2IdmjHO9s

      • eddie47d

        That’s an awful lot of words Jibbs now go read what I have said and then read what Kate 8 has said and then think about who is really the pathological liar. Who makes up conspiracy stories and then swears they are fact. Then has to enhance the next one to cover up the lies from the old ones. Continually using deceit “to create imaginary fantasies”. Not much different than Jeff H who accuses me of being a “chronic liar” in trying to bait others in joining in his fantasy of false accusations. BALD ASSERTIONS

      • http://www.facebook.com/dan.mancuso.56 Dan Mancuso

        To JeffH on your Eddy47-as-a-chronic-liar-poll.
        You assume an awful lot to credit a chump like Eddy47 with enough intellectual werewithall to even be able to lie.

      • eddie47d

        Piers Morgan would never threaten Alex Jones or his children so STOP implying that Jeff! Being a little dishonest are we? Now when Alex Jones was interviewed by Cenk Uygur on Current TV Alex turned against your pal Glenn Beck and called him a “crackpot and a punk”. Alex became so irritated with Glenn that he said he “was sick of Glenn who was trash basta*d and a jacka*s. Cenk then spoke up and asked Alex if he “needed mental help”. Trouble in paradise or are Conservatives having a meltdown ?

        • http://www.boblivingstonletter.com/ Bob Livingston

          Dear eddie47d,

          You write: “Piers Morgan would never threaten Alex Jones or his children so STOP implying that Jeff!” Lying again, or are you as dumb as a sack of hammers? Here’s the clip. Morgan laughs at the threat to “pop” Jones and says, “I’ll borrow my brother’s uniform.”

          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bfWwUjHePto

          Apology expected.

          Best wishes,
          Bob

      • JeffH

        Dan Mancuso :). Good sense of humor.

      • Kate8

        eddie – Like it or not, fluoride was used by the NAZIs to render Germans docile so they would not fight back. The practice was brought here for the same reason.

        Call me a liar all you want. It is not my word, but the bona fide reports of many doctors and research scientists who dare to go after the truth. Even you could research this information for yourself, if you were ever interested in the truth. But then, you’ve made it perfectly clear that truth is a nasty inconvenience for you, and you have dedicated your life to do all you can to prevent it from being disseminated.

        You probably already are aware of most of these things, but you are paid to refute them in order to promote the communist agenda. You are pathetic, eddie. And that goes for the rest of the treasonous trolls who frequent this site.

        The good news is, most everyone knows who you are, so you have no credibility, anyway. But, I suppose, the pay is good, and all you have to do is sit at a computer and spew propaganda all day, every day, so you obviously don’t care what anyone says to you.

        Ever hear of just deserts, eddie?

      • mark

        Dear Bob,

        No, I am aware of the longstanding Libertarian and conservative concerns over flouride in our drinking water. From what I have read about it, fear over this additive were vastly exaggerated in the past and still are today: See below:

        http://www.floridapoliticalpress.com/2012/11/26/fluoridated-libertarians-causing-decay-of-conservatism-46771

        Sincerely, mark

      • JeffH

        eddie, that’s what is so predictable about you…for 3+ years you’ve been spouting your lies and denying that you ever lie.

        Seek some help because you have a serious and find out what it is that triggers your constant lying…besides learning the truth.

      • JeffH

        Jibbs, I agree to a point but I also believe eddie is more of a Compulsive Liar than a Pathalogical Liar.

        This is why I believe that is so.

        A compulsive liar is defined as someone who lies out of habit. Lying is their normal and reflexive way of responding to questions. Compulsive liars bend the truth about everything, large and small. For a compulsive liar, telling the truth is very awkward and uncomfortable while lying feels right. Compulsive lying is usually thought to develop in early childhood, due to being placed in an environment where lying was necessary. For the most part, compulsive liars are not overly manipulative and cunning (unlike sociopaths), rather they simply lie out of habit – an automatic response which is hard to break and one that takes its toll on a relationship.

        The terms Pathological Liar, Habitual Liar and Chronic Liar are often used to refer to a Compulsive Liar.

        Now there is also strong evidence that eddies is a “compulsive liar”.

        A compulsive liar will resort to telling lies, regardless of the situation. Again, everyone lies from time to time but for a compulsive liar, telling lies is routine. It becomes a habit – a way of life.

        Simply put, for a compulsive liar, lying becomes second nature.

        • http://N/A CintiCB

          Is Eddie a ‘liar’ or is he, simply, misinformed/not bright enough to realize the true facts? This is a real question, I’m not accusing or assuming anything, here.

          Being ‘wrong’ and being a ‘liar’ are NOT the same thing.

      • eddie47d

        That may have been a tacky comment Bob Livingston but hardly shocking. Okay I’m sorry even though that clip was extremely week. Poking fun at someone as that clip showed was mild compared to some of the comments Ben Crystal comes up with. Will you be taking him out to the wood shed next? Now I will expect you to show the clip about James Yeager who said that he will “start killing people if any gun control measures are enacted”. Then we will see how serious you are about these “threats”.

        • http://www.boblivingstonletter.com/ Bob Livingston

          Dear eddie47d,

          You write: “Okay I’m sorry…” JeffH is owed the apology as it is he you accused of lying.

          You write: “…even though that clip was extremely week.” No it wasn’t.

          You write: “Poking fun at someone as that clip showed was mild compared to some of the comments Ben Crystal comes up with.” Attempt at misdirection. Ben Crystal has not written or said that someone should be shot, nor agreed that someone should be shot.

          You write: “Now I will expect you to show the clip about James Yeager who said that he will “start killing people if any gun control measures are enacted”. ” Dissembling and another attempt at misdirection. Please stay on topic.

          Best wishes,
          Bob

      • eddie47d

        You’ve been lying about me Jeff H for those 3 1/2 years now plus coming up with false “surveys” to impress your sheeple friends. Go ahead and game the blinded herd for you have done it before. Only a weak minded wuss would pull off your attempted slander and usually out of desperation. Heck I’m still waiting for Gordon’s answer on a previous question! Seems like a few of you like to shoot your mouths off with false bravado a little too much!

      • Kate8

        JeffH – Yes, I’ve been following all that. It seems that the red list is on.

        Did you catch this on WND? Moosie is definitely unhappy about something.

        http://www.wnd.com/2013/01/michelle-obama-rolls-eyes-twice-at-boehner/

        I heard that things are afoot at the WH… Should know more in a couple of days. Whatever is going on, the little lady is definitely miffed about it.

        She has zero class, anyway. No First Lady would conduct herself in such a juvenile manner, especially at such an event.

      • JeffH

        Kate8, why am I not surprised. She probably hates him because he is a white republican. Go figure?

        I’m gonna keep my eyes on the whole Noveske death deal. Where have we seen something like this before? Clinton’s Whitewater body count? O’Man’s Gay lovers?

      • Kate8

        JeffH – Yep. It looks like O might just outdo the Clintons on the body-count thing. He doesn’t even try to hide it… I mean, he’s claimed the right…

        Here’s a whole lot on the death you speak of.

        http://nesaranews.blogspot.com/2013/01/prominent-rifle-manufacturer-killed-in_21.html

      • JeffH

        Hey dummy, FYI…this is only the second poll that’s been put out questioning your honesty and credibility. Both polls have shown that not one person has ever stepped up in support of you not being a liar and having no credibility. In other words, your fellow liberals must not think much of your honesty and credibility either.

        False Bravado – Portraying yourself as much more confident then you are as a defense mechanism.

        example: He knows he’s wack, but his false bravado causes him to strut around claiming his lies and opinions are facts.

        False bravado? That’s you in a nutshell every day.

        Can you say 20 – 0(twenty to nothing – lack of credibility)
        Can you say 5 – 0(five to nothing – is a liar)

        *I’ll be re-posting this poll in another high profile thread in the interest of fairness and to allow a larger audience to participate.

      • Charlie

        Impeach Obama Now!!!

    • eddie47d

      That’s a very simplified view Harold Olsen could you elaborate in how you came to that conclusion? During the Vietnam war hundreds of veterans came home and protested against what was going on there. They were labeled as unAmerican traitors no matter what they exposed. They woke up and saw that Vietnam was a false flag war yet nobody listened. During the Iraq and Afghanistan Wars returning soldiers formed IVAW and protested those wars but few listened. The Military Industrial Complex just kept marching on and the Elites won again. I’m just saying that Nixon/Agnew also looked at returning troops with disdain and free speech was cut off at the knees. Too many Americans expect returning troops to shut up and slink back into the civilian world. Then hide their experiences.

      • TML

        eddie47d says “That’s a very simplified view Harold Olsen could you elaborate in how you came to that conclusion?”

        It is self-evident (thus the simplistic conclusion) that if military veterans are to be considered possible terrorists as outlined in the report from Department of Homeland Security (a Cabinet Department reporting directly to the President), – “Rightwing Extremism: Current Economic and Political Climate Fueling Resurgence in Radicalization and Recruitment.” – and therefore ‘those serving in Iraq and Afghanistan, [should be] aware that when they get out of the military, they too will be viewed as terrorists and possible terrorists by the Obama regime.’

        The report states, “The possible passage of new restrictions on firearms and the return of military veterans facing significant challenges reintegrating into their communities could lead to the potential emergence of terrorist groups or lone wolf extremists capable of carrying out violent attacks.”
        – “Returning veterans possess combat skills and experience that are attractive to rightwing extremists. DHS/I&A is concerned that rightwing extremists will attempt to recruit and radicalize returning veterans in order to boost their violent capabilities.”
        – “The willingness of a small percentage of military personnel to join extremist groups during the 1990s because they were disgruntled, disillusioned, or suffering from the psychological effects of war is being replicated today.”
        – “The FBI noted in a 2008 report on the white supremacist movement that some returning military veterans from the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan have joined extremist groups.”

        In essence, those veterans that came home and protested against what was going on there and labeled “unAmerican traitors” will simply be called terrorists today.

      • eddie47d

        TML; So the Department of Homeland will automatically label all returning veterans as unAmerican or as terrorists?… Your words. “they will be viewed as terrorists or possible terrorists by the Obama regime”. Since you put those words in parenthesis then YOU can honestly state that those words are an correct quote in the Homeland Security documents? Now I know that some returning veterans in the 60′s joined left wing groups such as the Black Panthers and some veterans in the 00′s joined right wing groups such as the various militias. Read up on the Alaskan Peacekeepers Militia or Militia of Montana and what they advocate in their quest for power. Hundreds of groups are monitored by the FBI but that also includes those like the leftist Weather Underground or the right wing National Alliance.

      • TML

        Eddie47d says, “So the Department of Homeland will automatically label all returning veterans as unAmerican or as terrorists?… Your words. “they will be viewed as terrorists or possible terrorists by the Obama regime”. Since you put those words in parenthesis then YOU can honestly state that those words are an correct quote in the Homeland Security documents?”

        Actually I simply reiterated Harold Olsen’s words, replacing “will be” with “should be”. It’s not a matter of the report actually saying those words outright; it is clearly being implied. A simple reading of the report can leave little doubt to the objective mind that it is promoting the idea that military veterans should be considered potential “terrorists”.

      • Kate8

        They are not coming for our guns

        “Did you really think we want those laws observed?” said Dr. Ferris. “We want them to be broken. You’d better get it straight that it’s not a bunch of boy scouts you’re up against… We’re after power and we mean it… There’s no way to rule innocent men. The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren’t enough criminals one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws. Who wants a nation of law-abiding citizens? What’s there in that for anyone? But just pass the kind of laws that can neither be observed nor enforced or objectively interpreted – and you create a nation of law-breakers – and then you cash in on guilt. Now that’s the system, Mr. Reardon, that’s the game, and once you understand it, you’ll be much easier to deal with.” -Ayn Rand, Atlas Shrugged

        Understanding the Obama Conspiracy and US Takeover (required reading).

        http://www.homelandsecurityus.com/archives/7525#more-7525

      • Charlie

        eddie47d,,,
        99% of white American males are just as “brainwashed” as you are,,, when I write “Impeach Obama Now!! ” You don’t understand that can be done with “True” Law and / or Constitutional Law,,, because,,, of your mind programming (brainwashing) you “THINK” it can’t be easily done,,,and for You,,,because of your erroneous thinking (brainwashing) it is true to you… But , to work you way to “Truth”, try to prove The Bible wrong or try to prove The Constitution right per The Bible… Meanwhile………………
        Praise King Jesus for Salvation and Healing… Acts 2;38 is salvation…

        Charlie Freedom

    • mark

      Several in the U.S. Military, a tiny minority, are members of various neo-Nazi, and white supremacist groups who naturally despise Obama and their fellow troopers of color. Timothy McViegh and Michael Alan Page, the mass murderer who slaughered 6 innocents at a Sikh Temple in Wisconsin recently, were military veterans. The military has always been a good recruiting source and training ground for numerous extremist right-wing and Libertarian hate groups. They are experienced with a broad range of lethal weaponry including explosives that make them ideal domestic terrorists and mass murderers.

    • Charlie

      Impeach Obama , Now!!!

  • jwoop66

    How does that guy even get a job teaching; or an administrative job, at west point? We’re screwed…

    • Charlie

      Impeach Obama, Now!!!

  • czman75

    Notice that this perception of Conservatives Americans has really only taken off since the first election of ovomit. If Americans are so bent on the destruction of this country, why hasn’t it been going on for decades. It wasn’t Conservatives back in the ’60s or ’70s that were causing problems it was the “hippies” and others of that ilk that were rioting.

    • wandamurline

      People like Slick Willie Clinton who went AWOL to Canada to smoke, but no inhale, marijuana instead of serving his country in Nam. Here is a bit of history….the civil rights movement in the 60′s (I was a teenager) and the KKK was very active….well, the KKK was made up of (guess who) Democrats, as they were intimidating and killing not only the blacks but the (guess again) Republicans who had come down to help the black attain equality. Funny how history seems to be reprinted by the progressives, isn’t it?

      • eddie47d

        Yes the KKK were mostly Democrats until the late 60′s when they rapidly switched to the Republican Party in droves. Why was that because Democrat President Johnson put the plight of the blacks front and center. Then Liberal Robert Kennedy sent troops into the south to stop voter intimadation from the Klan and their blocking of black students from attending the schools of their choice. Its hard to find a Klan member today who doesn’t vote Republican. You are correct to say that some Republicans supported civil rights (Northern ones). Charleston Heston was one of the best known to do so. The thing is though Wanda it was mostly Liberals who went south to change things so maybe that is why Progressives get the credit. I’m not sure why you brought up Clinton (actually he went to England) unless to be a smart alick since Cheney was drafted 5 times and weaseled out each time. Dick hid in plain sight but you know how war supporters are!

      • mark

        You are reprinting history as well, wandamurline. It is true that virtually all the white racists in the South during the Civil Rights era were Democrats. The South consisted of mosly one-party states back then, majority white conservative Democratic voters. And the overwhelming amount of blacks who could vote in the South, very few could, voted straight Republican – the Party of Lincoln which had virtually no white supporters in the South from the 1870s unitl the 1970s. The majority white Southernerns were part of the huge Conservative wing of the Democratic Party that was very powerful in those days and opposed intergration, hated blacks, hated goverment social programs, backed a strong military, anticommunism, and limited government – and despised Liberals. Yes, these were Conservative Democrats who hated Liberals. Strom Thurmnond, George Wallace, Lestor Maddox and numerous other virulent racists were all member of this ferociously Conservative wing of the Democratic Party that no longer exists today. These folks all switched over the the Republican begining in the late sixties after LBJ’s civil rights reforms, which they all fiercely opposed, were enacted

        The Democratic Party also had a very strong and growing Liberal wing, located mostly in the Northeast, Industrial Midwest, and California. Conservative Southern Democrats so despised this Liberal wing of the Democatic Party and its calls for racial equality, withdrawal from Vietnam, more social programs, and cutting the defense budget that these Southern Conservatives abandoned the Democratic party in droves and joined the Republican Party which by the early 1980s became the new dominant (and fiercely Conservative) party of the South. Equating the Southern Democrats from the 1950s-1960s with the Democrats of today is ludicrous. Southern Democrats in the 1950s and 1960s were overwhelmingly dye-in-the-wool Conservatives. Today virtually all Democrats, no matter what region they come from, are Liberals. Similarly the Republican Party had a large and vibrant Liberal wing in the 1950s-1970s people like Nelson Rockefeller, Jacob Javits, Lowell Weicker, Edward Brooke, etc. This Liberal wing of the Republican Party no longer exists just as the Conservative Wing of the Democratic Party is now extinct. The majority of civil rights activists who came South to protest and organize were Liberal Democrats, but you are right, there were several Liberal Republicans on college campuses who came with them. All of them were viciously opposed and sometimes murdered by the white Conservative Democrats of the South. You are getting ideologies mixed up with politcal labels, wandurline. Liberals, be they Democratic or Republican, supported integration and civil rights reforms in the 1950s-1960s. Conservatives, be they Democratic or Republican-affiliated, opposed integration and civil rights reform.

      • Kate8

        The only reason democrats hijacked the civil rights movement was because JFK made a deal with MLK Sr. to get MLK Jr. out of jail. MLK promised the black vote if JFK would free his son.

        JFK and the dems were vehemently opposed to the movement, but saw it as a potential expansion of their voter base and increasing power. By pandering to blacks they could place them, and everyone else, back under slavery beyond what it ever was before the slaves were “freed”. They would be far more easily controlled, and could be used as a wedge and club to accomplish more than they could without them.

        Thus, the dems have kept everyone in a world of illusion, making empty promises while delivering just enough to keep their minions dependent upon them. That is what it’s always about… dependency, because it equals power for government.

        There is nothing altruistic about keeping people in permanent poverty and dependency. Dems are the proverbial wolves in sheep’s clothing.

        Well, they all are. Dems are just the most obvious… and devious.

      • eddie47d

        “the only reason” Kate 8. I highly doubt it for few politicians were willing to stick their necks out for blacks on any issue.

    • Charlie

      Impeach Obama, Now!!!

  • JimH

    In Libya many in the army left and fought along side the revolutionary’s.
    It tells me the adminisration knows they are violating the Constatution. They know many Americans won’t put up with it. They know that many of our soldiers WON’T fire on their own people.
    In desparation they are now trying to convince our soldiers that “We the People” are the enemy, so they won’t join us.
    I would like to believe our soldiers are smart enough to know the difference.
    They took a oath to uphold the Constitution, Not an administration.
    From enemies foreign and DOMESTIC. If our soldiers know the difference we should be OK.

    • eddie47d

      Since the Army wasn’t in Libya your first line is a bit confusing Jim H. Then you tied it into your second sentence where it sounds like those men (who weren’t there) were violating the Constitution? Maybe Obama didn’t get proper approval but that is not what you said. Nixon and the Ohio Governor allowed the National Guard to fire on students so I would say its a mixed bag on what troops would or wouldn’t do. Yes ‘we the people” should be concerned but considering there are hundreds of right wing groups out there that should be the focus of trouble coming down the pike. No sense in being shy about them existing.

      • JimH

        Hi eddie, Members of the Libya army, joined the rebels. When the Libyan people were overthrowing Quaddafi.
        I would think members of the U.S. army would side with the American people.
        I hope that clarifies things for you.

    • Charlie

      The American Militia , follows The Greatest Radical and Warrior that ever Lived … King Jesus Christ is Our God and Leader… Meanwhile……………..
      Praise King Jesus for Salvation and Healing… Acts 2:38 is salvation…

      Charlie Freedom

  • dan

    the whole point of basic training is to brainwash and then regiment….all for the sake of CONTROL
    occasionally the bright one compartmentalize and overcome the brainwashing and these they control by threats and intimidation…
    I found the military to be just like being a member of a crooked union or being
    a slave on a BAD plantation
    and would never knowingly encourage any loved one to take part in the madness.

    • momo

      Dan, what you say is true, but there is a purpose to “brainwashing” and regemintation. It’s to get you to react quickly to a situation so you don’t get yourself or others killed. If you’re in a fire fight and you or your squad is running around like a chicken without a head, there’s going to be a lot of body bags going home.

    • Charlie

      A “True Christian” cannot be brainwashed for very long,,,because his/her mind is already saturated with “Truth” from King Jesus Christ… Truth will expose Lies any time a Lie is tested… Test all info in your mind to see IF it harmonizes with “Known” Truths… Most GI’s are not true Christians , therefore they are brainwashed on any number of subject matters…. Meanwhile………..
      Praise King Jesus for Salvation and Healing… Acts 2:38 is salvation…

      Charlie Freedom

  • GRusling

    Surveys of military members have been going on for decades, and they routinely show that a large majority would not obey an order to attack our civilian population, especially when an unpopular president is in office, and this one certainly is. I don’t lose any sleep over fear of being attacked by the US Military…

    • mike

      Obama was reelected not so unpopular

      • bfree

        drugs and alcohol are popular too, people are not always wise enough to see what would be there eventual demise. What does that tell you?

      • Kate8

        bfree – Yes, parasites always end up killing the host.

      • nabiru

        Hey Mike! Joseph Stalin was reelected many times over, too. By your standard he was a popular guy.

    • alpha-lemming

      Nor I….. but I’m deathly afraid of Chairman ObaMaos requested “Civilian Army…. as large and as well equipped as our convetional armed forces”. Used to be called armed robbery but I guess the “new-speak” term would be “social justice” via “redistribution”.

  • bdupray

    What do you expect, these young men and women, enlisted and officers, are products of are wonderful education systems.

    • Jim S

      So true bdupray. I gave my stepdaughter a copy of the Constitution and Bill of Rights the other day. She is a 2006 high school graduate with a couple years of college and was argueing with me about gun bans. I asked her if she knew what the 2nd Amendment said and she told me she had no idea what was in the Constitution or the Bill of Rights because she was never taught anything about them in school. I handed her a copy and told her to read it so she would know her rights before she loses them.

  • robert

    Yes, eddie47 is a troll and chronic liar.!!!

    • momo

      Ditto!

    • eddie47d

      Unless you can prove that Robert then that would make you the chronic liar! Ditto to MOMO and remember MOMO I have pointed out your discrepancies so watch your missteps.

      • http://www.facebook.com/dan.mancuso.56 Dan Mancuso

        Eddy47;
        Robert doesn’t have to prove that.
        You prove that evey time you post a comment!

      • eddie47d

        Of coarse not Dan they are just as free as you to make those lying sounds and get away with it. Capiche?

    • Charlie

      Yep, Impeach Obama Now !!!

  • mark

    Ever heard of Timothy McViegh? Robert Jay Mathews of The Order? Anders Behring Breivik, the recent right-wing Norwegian mass murderer? David Copeland of England who planted bombs that killed three gay people? The recent neo-Nazi, Michael Wade Page, who slaughtered six innocents at a Sikh Temple in Wisconsin a few months ago? I think the government has good reason to worry about extremist right-wing, hate-the government groups? Think of how many of them there are in the United States and their past records of violence? The Ku Klux Klan, the Aryan Nations, The White Patriot Party. the Nationalist Alliance, People’s Storm, The Skinheads, Posses Comitatus, the various militia groups? Think of all the posters on even this site who openly or in a veiled manner call for violence against the federal government and against the President of the United States. Think of the hundreds of posters on this site who exhult in their seethng hatred of the U.S federal government, as the most wicked organization on the face of the earth.

    Legitmate political office holders, the Republican Party, and hate blogs and radio outlets have given sanction to these acts by their use of coded and not-so-coded language. Goebbels and his propaganda aparatus constantly referred to the Jews as vermin. Well, what do people do to rats? They exterminate them, there is a conscious logic to this. When conservative politicians and posters repeatedly refer to people on government assistance or anyone who receives a government check as “parasites,” “leeches,” etc., what is the logical response to this? They should be exterminated, eliminated, done away with for the good of society. They are all uselesss dead weight, not human beings, no matter who they are: old people on Social Security and Medicare, poor and unemployed people especially of color who receive Medicaid and food stamps, veterans who get a federal check every month, even our currently serving military who get all their salaries and benefits from the federal government at taxpayers expense, not to mention local police and firefighters, teachers, etc. just more government “parasites.” This kind of thinking lends justification to the mentally deranged and poltiically delusional to carry out violent acts. They often feel that in doing so they are heroes. Just as Timothy McViegh saw himself as one, and is still a hero to a, Thank God, small segment of the extreme Libertarian, survivalist, and conservative communities.

    • JimH

      Hi mark, In a population of 315 million there will be some dangerous extremists. Yes we have all heard of Tim McVeigh. You give three examples out of 315 million people and one isn’t American and wasn’t in the U.S.
      Because of Posse Comitatus it would be against the law to use the military to go after them.
      I would hope that after Waco and Ruby Ridge the FBI has gotten better at how they handle things.

      • eddie47d

        Okay Jim H if that is a fair analyst then why do so many on this site continually bring up the Black Panthers which is only one group without any power. Out of 315 million there are only 15-25 official members of the BP’s. The FBI monitors them too although they aren’t linked to any recent killings.Yet the far right Sovereign Citizens Movement have been linked to the killings of five police officers. A better topic could be who should be watched and who shouldn’t be. Which organizations causes harm and which ones are just voicing an opinion.

      • Charlie

        The FBI will do what the FRS ,IRS , tell them to do………..

      • JimH

        Hi eddie, I can’t answer for the other people posting here about the Black Panthers.
        Until thet do something I’m not worried about them.
        I agree there should be a priority system on who to watch. I just don’t think it’s our veterans or people who speak out in defense of the Constitution.
        I also don’t believe it should be the military. Posse Comitatus.

      • mark

        The percentage of Muslims who are terrorists is also a very tiny minority, JimH. But some of their organizations are in the hundreds and thousands of members, as are domestic extremist groups here at home. Many are armed, dedicated, experts in assassination and destruction, and vocally call for war against the U.S. government. Therefore U.S. security forces are naturally keen to keep an eye on them, and on occasion, to infiltrate them. While I recognize our Constitutional right to political expression, this caution on our government’s part is understandable. I also agree with you that the government very badly bungled the Ruby Ridge and Waco debacles.

      • JimH

        Hi mark, There are over 1 billion Muslims in the world. I don’t know about the U.S.
        If they were all extremist it would be a blood bath. Since there are extremists though, I agree, it’s pragmatic to keep a eye out.
        I don’t agree with the military being taught that Tea Party people or gun rights activists are the enemy. Because their political beliefs are different than the current administrations.
        Law enforcement should keep an eye out for all the kooks, but not the military.
        Posse Comitatus.

      • JeffH

        eddie says “Okay Jim H if that is a fair analyst then why do so many on this site continually bring up the Black Panthers which is only one group without any power.”

        JimH, allow me to address that comment-question.

        The Black Panthers are brought up only in the context of voter intimidation, in particular the Philadelphia voter intimidation charges that AG Holder(aka Obama)failed to prosecute. That’s it…the video has been presented many times and eddie still chooses to ignore it. As far as he was concerned, the charges were bogus because they weren’t charged.

      • pissed of & liberal

        How is it that when a white chrishten man blows up a building he’s part of the fringe but when a arab muslim man does it he;s the norm?

      • Charlie

        JimH,,,
        The US Military and their hardware has been used against Americans many times,,, a SWAT team is a Para military force,,. Ruby Ridge , Waco, 911, are just a few where the military were obviously in on what happened… There are at least 2 major Groups to watch,,,The C E G (corrupt evil governments) , The American Militia are under The Command of King Jesus Christ, so the C E G cannot lawfully say The American militia is NOT Lawful,,, thousands of American Militia Men are praying every day for the “Judgement” of King Jesus Christ to fall upon the C E G,,,but,,,most are praying that The “Judgement” fall in accordance with The “Will” of King Jesus Christ… It appears that USA Inc.has the “Judgement” falling upon it … Remember,,, King Jesus can take “Evil” and turn it around for His Peoples good… The gun grab is just one event that may blow up in the C E G’s face…
        The book of Obadiah has not happened yet, watch for it to happen in the next few months.
        Meanwhile… Praise King Jesus for Salvation and Healing… Acts 2:38 is salvation…

        Charlie Freedom

  • steve

    how about another march on washington like mlk did except this time put all the parents of the armed services soldiers in the front line and then see if they are fired upon. let them know who is marching in a non voilent way to take over the corrupt system we live with.

    • mark

      MLK’s march did not lead to any takeover but rather to a growing awareness by lawmakers and the American people that positive change was vital to end the violation of African Americans’ constitutional rights. Federal troops gave zero thought to firing on the crowds there. State and local police in the South routinely beat up, harassed, fired upon, and acquiesced in the murders of nonviolent black and white protesters in the South.

      • steve

        you missed my point. wasn’t about mlk. was about getting someone like him to lead a march on washington. some one who has big balls.

  • ranger09

    The Military has always followed orders to shoot civilians, just check your history. today is even worst, The military has never been brainwashed as it is today, the main factor is A good paying job with great benifits, Plus they have to face jail or death if they fail to follow the Govts orders. the Police and the military today will be even more deadly to American citizens, they will shoot and ask no questions, and very few will walk away.

    • eddie47d

      We had the Ludlow Massacre here in Colorado back in 1914. Government troops were involve but the actual killing of the 18 victims was done by Baldwin Felts Detective Agency and hired by the mining company.

  • Jamie

    While we have to deal with the Political Terrorism the U.S. govn.placed on the U.S Citizens daily in this country, as well as the undermining of the Dollar.value.
    I guess these Military Officers will think their actually in a different world and, none of this will ever effect their life or family when they retire, like dumb blinded chimps.

  • 14liberty

    Wow, I knew that the Obama campaign was supposed to start a propaganda campaign against people that didn’t see things his way but, I sure didn’t think that the trolls would be on here so soon. Eddie you need to read the EPA report about dental and skeletal fluorosis and fractures from fluoride before you make your CIA scripted comments. Mark, while you do make some valid points, you still sound like an idiot asleep at the wheel by arguing differences between the repubes and demorats. They are both for the main agenda and not for the people. It may appear that way from time to time but, when it comes down to sneaky bills like the NDAA they are always both sides, on board. So please stop trying to convince people to go back to sleep or continue with the failed system we have by voting one way or another. Oh, and stop wasting taxpayers money. Do you two think that the taxpayers voted to pay for your propaganda campaign against them? I think not.

    • mark

      14liberty, no one pays me for my remarks. I gladly make them on my own. I also work in private industry not a government job. Although I mostly vote Democrat, I am an independent and not a member of the Democrat Party. I also own a handgun, an old .38 caliber Smith and Wesson revolver that my Dad left to me when he died. And I served three years in the U.S. Army. But I oppose our current use of the U.S military as a global police force. We should mind our own busines and stay out of other country’s affairs. I support Ron Paul’s views in this respect.

    • eddie47d

      14liberty: Scripted CIA comments? Was that an attempt at humor or a wee bit of sarcasm? I’m cautious about fluroide and have signed about 25 petitions in favor of reducing or stopping it’s usage. Hardly a big fan of this product/chemical.

  • http://www.facebook.com/dan.mancuso.56 Dan Mancuso

    Bob;
    As I was reading your piece, I was imagining what it would be like for someone waking up from a 50 year coma and the nightmarish unbelievability with which they would be faced with in this society today!
    Unbelievable!.

    • mark

      It would depend on who woke up from that coma, Dan. An African American from the South, would awake to his shock to realize he could now vote, run for office, and speak out on issues without risking death from the local Ku Klux Klan. He could also eat in restaurants, shop, go to movies, and ride on busses with white people without facing physical violence and arrest. A huge revelation to such a man would be that an African American was now president. A woman would awake realizing she could now enter into any profession she wanted and become a doctor, a lawyer, a scientist, a corporate president, a U.S. president – and not just a homemaker, secretary, teacher, or nurse. She would also have control over her reproductive life in a way unheard of 50 years ago. An Hispanic American who awoke would also realize he could rise in society and send his children to college in a way that would have been impossible 50 years ago thanks to government-subsidized educational loans and grants. He too could eat in any restaurant he wanted to in Texas, Arizona, New Mexico, and California without being asked to get his wetback butt out of there and leave! A gay man or woman who awoke from such a coma would realize he could now practice his lifestyle in safety without being harrassed, made fun of, arrested by the police, or jumped by young gangs of thugs while the police watched on and laughed. Any male who came out of such a coma would realize he could no longer be conscripted against his will to serve in the U.S. armed forces to fight in an immoral war he did not support, because now all service personnel were volunteers. An Amerindian would awake to discover he no longer lived in complete poverty after his people had been driven off their land again and again by white folks and a coercive government. He now would receive a good-sized check every month from the local casino that his people owned. An elderly person who awoke might be grateful that he now had a government program called Medicare to help pay for his or her medical bills. Any American who awoke from that period would now realize that since the Cold War was over, tens of thousands of thermonuclear warheads were no longer aimed at the United States on a hair trigger ready to be launched over some foolish foreign crisis.

      So as with all change, there would be positives and negatives to someone coming out of such a Rip Van Winkle 50 year sleep. School prayer is now gone. There has been a relaxation of moral strictures regarding sexuality, art, manners, dress, and lifestyle. But there have also been enormous advancements in science, medicine, technology, and transportation. Just think of how the mass use of automobiles, computers, the internet, cable, cell phones, ipads, ipods, jet travel, and creature comforts have transformed all our lives. We live several years longer now than we did 50 years ago. Crime rates are about the same. Taxes today are higher. Political hostility, well that’s probably a wash. While the threat of foreign terrorism is now present, much less so are large demonstrations, race and anti-war riots, millions in the street protesting segregation, the war, police brutality, the presence of nuclear weapons, etc.. It’s a mixed bag of progress and regression. I prefer to live in today’s world not in 1963 but I am sure that others on this site would differ.

      • Native Blood

        Mark, after having read your reply, I fail to see whether you read the OP’s Article. It alludes to all americans (especially veterans) who must go into the closet so that the gays can thrive. Is that about how you summed it all up? Veterans are now just a piece of crap to be shat upon with no honor? All those categories you mentioned above are veterans too. What the Cadets at West Point is some very serious violations of veterans rights already and you should be very concerned about who is indoctrinating the next generation of Officers and NCOs.

  • Mary

    For those of you who actually believe this kind of garbage you should know it IS written with one thing in mind. That is to undermind the military and the federal government with lies, lies, and more lies. Those of us who have been in the military know we give up some of our freedoms temporarily to do what we are told and go where we are needed. No one brainwashed us. We chose to support our government and serve our country even if we did not personally agree with all the decisions. No one took away our right to think for ourselves or to vote then or now. To lie and say those votes are not counted has no proof to back it up as do most of the lies and conspiracies these right wing nuts think it is fair to unleash. Anything for their ideological politics is fair game. NOT SO. LIES are still LIES. The families of our military are proud of the jobs they are doing and so should all of you be. They give you the right to have your outrageous opinions against them.
    Why is it, we only hear this crap from extremist on the right and not from the mainstream? Because the lies have no proof to back them up so credible organizations will not repeat them.
    I can guarantee you if you threaten the government with taking up arms against it, you will indeed be viewed as terrorist. That is not the way our government was set up to work. You change things by your votes, not your guns. If the majority happens to disagree with you, then you just live with it because the majority rules.
    Your party lost the Presidential election so get over it and try to do something constructive. Why do you all think you have so much inside information about some terrible doom and gloom you predict everytime Democrats are in office yet never talk about it when the Republican are? Do you not notice a pattern here? There are plenty of talking heads who make it their careers to feed you all this crap. They laugh all the way to the bank because you have made them multi-millionaires. They are not worried about the government taking anything away from them because they know THEY are just full of BS. Their job is to fire you up so they can put their party back into the White House. Just politics as usual.

    • mark

      Excellent points, Mary. Right on the money. Your post also shows that our military personnel are much more intelligent and independent-minded than the article and many of the commentators here allege. You’ve supplied some wise words on all this nonsense about “a war on the government.” Paranoid fantasies from sore losers who cannot accept the results of an election.

    • Charlie

      Mary,,, partly right ,,,the people have very little control of the “Court system” We are suppose to have… Most Churches are NOT teaching /preaching The Whole Bible as written in The KJV… The vote system is a scam ,,,Obama proved that as well as other elections… During the meantime , Impeach Obama, Now!!!
      Praise King Jesus for Salvation and Healing… Acts 2;38 is salvation…

      Charlie Freedom

  • Adolf Schmidt

    Everyone on this post has one thing in common, they do not want to see any children hurt through gun violence! There are very few gun owners that would not bow to the gun legislation that Obama is trying to pass if most of it not been past and failed before! It would make more sense to have our schools provide bullet proof vest to our children. There is no way to keep guns out of the hands of the mentally ill or felons, they won’t tell you if they have one and as long as there is greed, there will always be someone willing to sell them one. The best offense is a good defense! Lets protect our children first then work on getting guns out of the wrong hands. I read several news reports on Sandy Hooks and they said only handguns were found inside the school and a bushmaster in his car. The point being in a class room situation the size of a lot of assault rifles would get in the way. Our soldiers use a M-4 because it is shorter than most assault weapons. Any legislation should be made by people that have knowledge of the topic. Obama said that the American people did not have the capacity to be involved in the matters of the government and those decisions should be left to him! This is not Obama’s field of expertise and he should be getting advice from someone with a higher level of knowledge than himself. let’s try something that has not already failed!

  • cawmun cents

    I hope I am on their list……I wouldnt want to live in the future of a country with a list like that.Anybody who would needs their head examined.
    If you’re brainwashed and you know it,praise Obama.
    Cheers!
    -CC.

  • Richard J. Papp

    Yes I am a far right wing Conservative, despise abortion, hate liberals, and 2nd Amendment foes. But I firmly believe that our only chance of prevailing is through the ballot box. We (yes, you) need to articulate our position convincingly, and not threatening, lest we play into the hands of the miscreants.

    • nabiru

      Mr.Papp. When terror sets in , ballot boxes are a joke. Remember , 1956 Hungary.

  • http://www.facebook.com/gimmesumadat.whatyougot Gimmesumadat Whatyougot

    When WW I vets came home, they were considered patriotic heroes. They were allowed to bring (or buy) their “Army Issued” rifle home with them. More than any other weapon, most were used to provide deer meat for their family’s dinner table, hunting over the next 30 to 40 years. Did any of these rifles get used in civil crime sprees, especially mass murder? Don’t think so!

    Also shows that citizens were allowed to carry the ‘same’ weapons that the military uses. Now, soldiers returning from combat are labeled as possible terrorists to be feared. Although trained to carry much more deadly weapons than the AR-15, not to be trusted with a BB gun.

    It’s McCarthyism all over again. Remember Bedtime for Bonzo? (Ronald Regan – the Actor) was turning in his fellow actors as commies. Later to be heralded as a great American President, protector of the American Way of Life! He was duped to believe that he was saving the U.S. from an invisible enemy.

    We are now being told by an “Actor” that we must fear an invisible terrorist! Fear campaigns are nothing new, just the “Actors” have changed. Even though these “leaders” are just “actors” playing a role on the Grand Stage, they play for keeps.

    In a world that is about to implode upon itself, the language of the script being used will twist the truth until, “What is good is Bad, and What is Bad is Good.

    God help those who cannot help themselves!

  • Lawrence

    I wonder if anyone has checked with military people and asked them if they will fire their weapons on law abiding citizens?

  • dolt

    Stop thinking and buy something! You are nothing without the image of the goods you own. Be better than your neighbor. And shut up. Buy, buy, buy. Work, work, work. And have lots of sex. Any kind, any where. Don’t think.

    • Charlie

      dolt,,,
      Has anyone told you ? you have been duped ,deceived and deluded by the Satanic powers that be??? Meanwhile…… Praise King Jesus for Salvation and Healing… Acts 2:38 is salvation…

      Charlie Freedom

  • Charlie

    Remember, the military is commanded by civilians, Obama , etc ,,,some of the military do not think their leaders are very smart ,,,but, they put on a show of “respect” to maintain their pay ,”Rank” , but , accidents do happen… Meanwhile…………..
    Praise King Jesus for Salvation and Healing… Acts 2:38 is salvation…

    Charlie Freedom

  • Renderizer

    Well, I guess I should book a room in one those internment camps. I fit every one of those descriptions of a terrorist with three exceptions. Funny, I don’t feel terrifying or terroristic…

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