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The Faux War On Drugs

October 10, 2012 by  

The Faux War On Drugs

The drug war is lucrative business for the drug cartels. It’s also lucrative for various U.S. and local government agencies that see their budgets grow annually to fight a battle they don’t intend to win.

It’s so lucrative, in fact, that the Federal government is now picking winners and losers in Mexico’s drug wars by allowing some cartels free reign to commit murder within the United States and transport multi-ton quantities of drugs across the U.S. border with impunity. These revelations come from emails hacked from the security firm Stratfor and released by WikiLeaks and from recent Federal court filings.

In the emails, a Mexican diplomat dubbed MX1 wrote that both Mexican and American authorities have been negotiating deals with the larger cartels, tolerating their cross-border trafficking and encouraging them to take out the smaller cartels in the belief that fewer cartels would be able to negotiate their differences peaceably. “They want the CARTELS to negotiate with EACH Other. The idea is that if they can do this, violence will drop and the governments will allow controlled drug trades,” the email stated.

Another leaked email from a Federal law enforcement supervisor stated: “Regarding ICE [U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement] screwing up informants: They [ICE] were handling big hit men from Juarez and letting them kill in the U.S.”

In Federal court filings, Jesus Vicente Zambada-Niebla (said to be the “logistics coordinator” for Sinaloa, a major Mexican cartel) claimed the U.S. government had offered his organization virtual immunity to import tons of drugs across the border. He also claimed that in exchange for information on rival cartels, the Sinaloa cartel was armed by Federal agents and aided in avoiding Mexican authorities.

The war on drugs is sham and a scam and Federal agents and Federal agencies are corrupted by it. Meanwhile, U.S. prisons and cemeteries are overflowing with the victims.

Bob Livingston

is an ultra-conservative American who has been writing a newsletter since 1969. Bob has devoted much of his life to research and the quest for truth on a variety of subjects. Bob specializes in health issues such as nutritional supplements and alternatives to drugs, as well as issues of privacy (both personal and financial), asset protection and the preservation of freedom.

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  • cerebus23

    Yep been doing it for oh i dunno 30 40 years. Really a war on your own citizens, a war without any exit strategy, when we got to the point that we had so many people in the “war on drugs” in jails, ty manditory minimums, that privatized prisons grew out of it so we could warehouse more people and real criminals would just walk.

    And every drug czar ever appointed has been as full of utter b.s. as you can find. No amount of money or resources dumped into the war on drugs has done anything but make some drugs cheaper. drugs like heroine are dirt cheap now day compared to back in the 60s and 70s.

    wake up america.

    • Robert Smith

      “The war on drugs is sham and a scam and Federal agents and Federal agencies are corrupted by it. Meanwhile, U.S. prisons and cemeteries are overflowing with the victims.”

      Yup, and like all wars it should have an end.

      How in the “land of the free” can we tolerate such a thing?

      Rob

      • momo

        Robert Smith says: “How in the “land of the free” can we tolerate such a thing?”

        There’s too much money involved, that’s why its tolerated. Ever wonder why the feds only intercept about 10 percent of the illegal drugs entering this country? Follow the money.

      • DaveH

        “We” can tolerate such a thing because a large portion of us (that includes you, Robert) don’t respect peoples’ Freedom to control their own wallets, and another large portion of us don’t respect peoples’ Freedom to control their own bodies.
        We’ve all been Propagandized to enable Big Government growth so the Leaders can be fat and happy on our backs.

      • Tweety9

        We tolerate it because we have no balls to stand up to the corrupt government. America is the now the land of greed and corruption and deserves to be destroyed by GOD for its evil ways.

    • http://yahoo Larry

      Prison is the fastest growing industry in the USA. The USA (I read someplace) has more people in prisons than all other industrialized nations combined, and I believe it.

      • http://pweiters9.wordpress.com pweiters9

        10/12/12, This economic climate reveals just who’s expendable. I’m told by those on both sides of jail bars that everybody has a job on the inside. These are the new slaves. Figure this: many consumer goods & services are done by prisoners. Cheap labor.

  • DockyWocky

    I always believed that government corruption is behind and working hand and glove with illegal drugs coming in from Mexico and South America

    • eddie47d

      So they think that knocking off a few small drug smugglers will bring the larger cartels in line. That would only make those large cartels even bigger and harder for the Mexican government to control. Sadly its the drug cartels that control the Mexican government. When Calderon came into power the problems only got worse and violence surged. They backed themselves into a corner and the US has become a willing accomplice.

      • ChuckS

        This seems to fit a pattern. I think the same Obama administration that supported the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt and Libya, and let 2,000 weapons go to drug cartels seems to be on the side of the enemies of the US everywhere, Liberals seem to think they can negotiate with any bad guys. I wonder if this was any different under Bush.

    • Paula

      I believe the same thing! Drug money trickles UP! Billions and billions of dollars keep the drugs flowing…no one is going to turn that spigot off!

    • http://malcolmkyle.wordpress.com malcolmkyle

      During a very recent conference, former Nuevo Leon governor Socrates Rizzo admitted that previous presidents had formalized agreements with drug cartel leaders to coordinate and protect Mexico’s lucrative drug trade.

      Read more here: http://www.businessinsider.com/former-mexican-governor-admits-pri-presidents-controlled-drug-trade-2011-2#ixzz1FLhl1BqO

      Accusations of a “corrupt” Mexican government protecting certain cartels have been around for decades. Investigative reporters say they have solid evidence showing that authorities are going after other cartels, but not targeting the largest one which is the Sinaloa cartel.

      “There are no important detentions of Sinaloa cartel members, but the government is hunting down [Sinaloa's] adversary groups and new players in the world of drug trafficking.“
      – Diego Osorno, an investigative journalist and the author of a book on the Sinaloa cartel published in 2009.

      Edgardo Buscaglia, a leading law professor in Mexico and an international organized crime expert, has analyzed 50,000 drug-related arrest documents dating back to 2003, and said that only a tiny fraction of the them were against Sinaloa members, and low-key ones at that.

      “Law enforcement [statistics] shows you objectively that the federal government has been hitting the weakest organized crime groups in Mexico.”

      “But they have not been hitting the main organized crime group, the Sinaloa Federation, that is responsible for 45 per cent of the drug trade in this country.”

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jT0HD_6hfq4

      Joaquin “El Chapo” Guzman – one of the most wanted criminals in the world – runs the Sinaloa cartel. Arrested in Guatemala in the 1990s and transferred to a maximum security prison in Mexico, Guzman escaped in 2001 and has amassed a $1bn fortune by trafficking cocaine, heroine and meth to the US.

      “I work in the police and because of this I know the government is protecting Chapo Guzman. It’s hitting all the cartels but Chapo,”
      — Luis Arturo Perez Torres, 25, until recently a federal police officer stationed in a suburb of Mexico City.

      “The Calderon government has been fighting organized crime in many parts of the republic, but has not touched Sinaloa. I know this. I’m Sinaloan. My family lives in Sinaloa. It is like we’re trimming the branches of a tree, when we should be tearing it out by the roots.”
      — Manuel Clouthier, a congressman from Sinaloa state and a member of Calderon’s own political party.

      In 2009, NPR analyzed thousands of news releases on the federal attorney general’s website announcing arrests for organized crime, weapons and drug offenses. The information surveyed spanned from the day Calderon assumed the presidency in December 2006. The analysis showed that Nationwide, 44 percent of all cartel defendants are with the Zetas and Gulf cartels. Only 12 percent of the defendants are with the Sinaloa cartel. The numbers contradict the Mexican government, which claims it has arrested twice the percentage of Sinaloa gang members.

      “I think you’ve identified an issue of concern, and that is, why is the Sinaloa doing so much better than the others and why is the Sinaloa cartel been the one that has escaped a lot of the prosecutions compared to the other cartel numbers?”
      — U.S. Rep. Michael McCaul (R-TX), a former federal prosecutor who sits on the Homeland Security Committee, when asked to review the NPR analysis.

      NPR’s analysis is supported by a Mexican law professor and organized crime expert, Edgardo Buscaglia, who has done his own analysis of cartel arrests.

      “If you look at the main organized crime group in Mexico, that is, the Sinaloan confederation, it has been left relatively untouched. The Sinaloa has been clearly the winner of all that competition among organized crime groups. And as a result of that, they have gained more economic power, they have been able to corrupt with more frequency and corrupt with more scope. Now you see that Sinaloa is the most powerful criminal group, not just in Mexico, but all over Latin America,”
      — Law professor and organized crime expert. Edgardo Buscaglia

      “Has the Sinaloa infiltrated the Mexican government? Absolutely. Has the Sinaloa infiltrated the Mexican military? Absolutely.”
      — Texas Congressman Michael McCaul

      “When the Sinaloan cartel began to be protected by all the apparatus of the government after 2001, it felt the power for the first time in history to occupy plazas that for dozens of years belonged to other cartels. So you saw them take on the Gulf cartel in Nuevo Laredo [in 2005], My hypothesis, after five years of investigation, is that Joaquin Guzman Loera is the best example of corruption in Mexico.”
      — Anabel Hernandez, an award-winning investigative reporter who has spent five years researching a book on Guzman.

      Source: http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=126906809&ft=3&f=1001

  • pete0097

    As a conservative, drug users are not criminals but people that need help with their addictions. Drug dealers are the real criminals and should be dealt with. Putting the users in jail is counterproductive. They should be in rehab clinics while real criminals are in the jails. In jail, the users just learn to be be criminals.

    • http://yahoo bob peters

      The users have been in drug rehabs revolving doors for decades….They are part of the problem and should be dealt with accordingly after how many chances?? The dealers should be executed.Period!! that would deter their resolve big time…As for the government,they also are the problem because their coffers are lined with drug money..You all keep voting for your favorite felon and keep him or her in office for decades and then wonder what is going wrong. do your homework or just don’t vote because your vote is stupidity…

      • Nancy in Nebraska

        The dealers have been executing each other for ages! It hasn’t been much of a deterrence!

      • DaveH

        For those who have been equally Propagandized but would like to change that condition:
        http://library.mises.org/books/Mark%20Thornton/Economics%20of%20Prohibition.pdf

      • Malcolm Kyle

        The Singapore CNB (Central Narcotic Bureau) announced in September 2011 that the the 5% drop per year, which they often proudly proclaimed as proof of the effectiveness of their tough drug stance, was totally inaccurate. Arrests it seems have actually increased since 2008 contradicting Singapore’s assertion that being tough on drugs (even with mandatory death sentences) has ever been effective.

        From January to June 2011 there was a 20% increase in arrests compared to the previous year. This not only indicates that drugs are entering Singapore but also that the amount of people in Singapore using drugs is steadily and surely increasing.

        This isn’t just a problem Singapore can claim is due to chronic drug users, as a large percentage of those being arrested are first-time users — 41% in 2008, 45% in 2009 and 46% in 2010. This clearly shows that threats of caning, harsh prison sentences and even death does nothing to deter either ‘chronic users’ or ‘first time users’.

        The government has promised to “look at the problem afresh and comprehensively”, but they’ve also pledged to maintain Singapore’s ‘zero-tolerance policy’. So no change there then, which is what we’ve come to expect from people who’s livelihood depends on an historically failed and dangerous policy.

        The Singapore government, and those who blindly support them, now have no proof whatsoever that their laws are curtailing drug smuggling or drug usage rates.

        http://www.todayonline.com/Singapore/EDC110923-0000304/Actually,-drug-arrests-were-on-the-rise

        Due to the embarrassment this has caused to the Singapore authorities, the original article from the above link has recently been removed. Kindly google: Central Narcotics Bureau blames under-reporting of statistics on migration to new computer system in 2008

    • DaveH

      Wise words, Pete.
      Big Government (as usual) is the Problem, Not the Solution.

    • TML

      Conservative or Liberal, the truth is the same… decriminalize drugs and the dealers will be put out of business and dramatically reduce the associated crime. We learned this in 1929 at the end of Alcohol Prohibition and Al Capone (You don’t see the Budweiser guy and Miller guy pulling guns on each other if they show up at the same store at the same time).

      All user addictions are then treated, rightfully, as a medical condition – as long as they are not operating a motor vehicle under the influence.

      Regulation is then handled in the City and/or State for more effective solutions to localized problems, along with drawing revenue through taxation (there are for example “dry” cities, and some states such as Texas, you can’t buy alcohol on Sunday or after 9pm any other day).

      Drugs are then made safer by pharmaceutical companies as opposed to never knowing what you’re getting on the street.

      Decriminalization would solve all the problems.

  • Les

    End the war on drugs and you end the reign of at least 5 Federal Government Agencies and that my friends will never happen. All these Agencies will continue to grow until the country goes bankrupt.

    • http://smoovious.wordpress.com Smoovious Laxness

      Take it a step further, and finally end the prohibition, and you get rid of the bulk of the violence too.

      It is the illegality that fosters the violence, as the participants, have no other recourse, as far as protecting themselves.

      With a legal avenue open, the violence slips away as those who continue to participate in the violence, find themselves out of business.

      Why would someone ever go to a street thug on a corner somewhere, when they can just go to a legal licensed shop to get more selection and better quality, without fear of getting hurt or ripped off?

      Nothing helps feed a black market more, than laws making them illegal. The more laws making more items illegal, the stronger the black market becomes. It is inevitable.

      – Smoov

      • JCfromDC

        Well, at least somebody has it right… The Prohibition is at the bottom of all of it. Once a “free society” tells its citizens it cannot have something, they WILL find a way to get it, penalties notwithstanding…. And somebody wil get rich on the sly. Just go back to the “other” Prohibition. EVERYbody (including law enforcement) flouted it, Lansky, Luciano and Capone became fabulously wealthy (and respected!). They are are now even flirting with tobacco the same way. It just never ends! Now tobacco is child abuse, a major drain on health care (a lie — most smokers die rather young of heart attacks, not cancer), anothe “crisis” government needs to “manage”. Now criminal penalties are being attached to smoking. WHERE DOES IT END??? William F. Buckley back in the 70s even then said the war on drugs was a sham, a failure and could be purified (chemically), regulated and taxed like alcohol (and hopefully with better consequences)

      • moonbeam

        It won’t stop the turf wars. Those will still continue.

        • http://smoovious.wordpress.com Smoovious Laxness

          What turf would be left that they would be warring for?

          – Smoov

      • David Weber

        Yeah, and our government, in their stupidity, outlawed the incandescent light bulb. Now we’re going to have thugs shooting up the place over freaking light bulbs.

        • Smoovious Laxness

          Make sure you have made your home bullet-proof then. If one of those stray bullets hit one of your CFLs, you’re gonna be paying through the nose to get the mercury contamination cleaned up. (has happened already, thanks EPA)

          – Smoov

        • HH

          (Yeah, and our government, in their stupidity, outlawed the incandescent light bulb.)

          Worse that that David, the bulbs to replace those incandescent bulbs are made in China! Last I heard there was not even ONE company in the US that produces the florescent bulbs that we have to buy in their place, so in that light, our moronic government, in effect, has made it a law that we buy Chinese bulbs!!! How stupid!!!

  • dan

    well said Les…
    caffeine is a gateway drug….at least Mittens doesn’t partake
    but will the progressive nanny state start locking up tea and coffee drinkers ?
    Might be why tea-party are already declared enemies of the stateists

    • http://malcolmkyle.wordpress.com malcolmkyle

      Caffeine is even most certainly linked with mental illness; psychosis even.
      Source:
      Broderick, P. & Benjamin, A.B. (2004). Caffeine and psychiatric symptoms: a review. Journal of the Oklahoma State Medical Association, 97(12), 538-542.

      Hedges, D.W., Woon, F.L. & Hoopes S.P. (2009). Caffeine-induced psychosis. CNS Spectrums, 14(3),127-129.

  • roger gunderson

    Nobody should be punished on this so called ‘war” on drugs. We as free people should have the right to buy,use ,sell. Didn’t alcohol prohibition teach anybody anything.
    Our mommy and daddy government needs to leave the people alone.

    • Les

      Yes, it taught us we could create large sneaky government agencies such as the FBI. And everyone got rich. Why is it not one politician on the “right” or “left” has proposed legalizing drugs? What gives the Federal Government the right to declare war on any state that does legalize any drug?

      • Robert Smith

        Question asked: “Why is it not one politician on the “right” or “left” has proposed legalizing drugs?”

        Barny Frank proposed decriminalizing pot and treating it much like alcohol.

        Rob

      • momo

        @Robert Smith, Ron Paul proposed legalizing drugs.

      • The GLB

        Momo, I think you mean decriminalize. If drugs are legalized by the federal government, then the state governments could not regulate them. Some states may choose to not allow the use of harder drugs, whereas other states may, and some may even say, “No!” to all drugs. On the drug issue Ron Paul is all about the 10th Amendment.

        I am surprised that I have not read a comment about the legal pharmaceutical drugs that kill many more people when consumed per the instructions, then natural remedies http://www.naturalnews.com/036804_prescription_drugs_fatal_side_effects_supplements.html

        The shame is our government, which has a become a merger of state and corporations, aka Fascism (Mussolini good NOT have envisioned a more perfect example), facilitates and allows the promotion of pharmaceuticals that, IMO, do more harm than good, and created a fake ‘war’ on drugs to justify the ever expanding roles of super-agencies that are used to ‘protect’ us from everything bad in the world, including ourselves.

      • alpha-lemming

        I’ll dare say, the right (the REAL right conservative/Libertarian… not the theocratic right) is more open to this approach than the left….. and longer too…. originally championed by no less a conservative icon than William F. Buckley.

        Almost anything can be abused…. food, sex, alcohol, drugs, gambling…. the list is nearly endless. And much like the gun control argument, the “abuser” is a victim of circumstance and it was the guns’ fault (sorta like pencils mis-spell words, and spoons made Rosie O’Donnell fat). Also, a carte-blanche legalization flies in the face of common sense…. a very few things should probably remain illegal such as crack (has killed people after only 1 use…. remember Len Bias) and PCP (a drug when used in its typical manner results in the user going manically insane). Granted, the Darwinist in me says this may not be a bad thing, but my human side says the collateral damage of innocents isn’t worth the risk.

        I’ll close with a little history. I can’t remember the guys name, but within the last 10 years, an Olympic gold-medalist in snow-boarding was stripped of his medal because he tested positive for pot (big surprise there). Your 3 choices are:
        1) The Olympic Committee was correct because smoking pot is too debilatating…. ans: good luck arguing this one…. after all he won the Gold.
        2) The Olympic Committee was correct because pot is a performance enhancing drug… ans: again good luck on this one with the possible exception of competitive potato chip eating.
        3) The Olympic Committee was wrong because it MAKES NO DIFFERENCE!!!!!!

      • http://jmcgraphicdesignworks.wordpress.com jcfromdc

        So did William F. Buckley, Jr. (the “evil arch conservative) way back in the 70s, but no one listened then, either, considering the source.

  • http://veracity1313@mac.com Martin

    A WAR AGAINST OURSELVES

    Americans are spending billions each year against an enemy that we are supporting!
    We spend our money to fight terrorist and gorillas all over the world, when actually we are supporting them! The dollars these enemies of America derive comes mostly from drug sales to this country. If drugs were not profitable the money supply would dry up.If we did not buy drug sales here the guerrillas would have a hard time keeping an army that terrorizes governments in South America together. The exception are the religious fundamentalist who use the money from the poppy crops or other drugs they obtain from their contacts in South America to help run their operations from the Middle East.
    The solution seems to be to stop funding these enemies of society with taxpayers money. Sending money and arms to fight battles in other countries when the war is in America, and paid for in this country. Not only in dollars but in crime in America.
    Drug users commit crimes to obtain dollars to buy drugs, these dollars in turn are sent to countries that grow the drugs. These people who distribute the drugs are either drug barons or terrorists. Either way
    we are funding our enemies, yes Americans are paying for the war against ourselves.
    In the name of fighting the drug war, we as a society are not solving the problem. If the profit were taken out of drugs, and the drugs were dispensed by an agency crime would come down.
    Addicts needs would be solved and crime and insurance losses would come down. Centers for drugs could be paid with the savings insurance companies would save from drug related crimes.
    TO QUOTE POGO
    “WE HAVE SEEN THE ENEMY AND IT IS US!”5/07/02

    • Paula

      Excellent post!

    • TIME

      Dear Martin,

      You hit the bloody nail on the head. A Very fine post indeed, Yet saddly what is used to divide us is also the very drug that is used to RULE over US, aka; ~~

      Now thats a drug that should be outlawed. So lets outlaw POWER, take the power away from all the POLITICIANS, ~ and make them get a real job ~~ rather than making LAWS to RULE and CONTROL US.

      Peace and Love be with you.

  • MrHoggLegg

    We need to end the so called Drug War Now! The best way to do that is by taking the Profit out. We spend Billions and where has it gotten us … No Where! Stop Fighting and Start Helping. Everyone knows who we need to stop Fighting (Drug Cartels). So who do we need to help? The Users!

    How do we accomplish doing both? By Legalizing Marijuana and having Medical Facilities provide Free Drugs of choice! By doing those things will immediately remove Profit from the Drug Deals. With the Billions that is spent on Fighting and then Spending the Billions on Helping we will then be able to end the Violence that is associated with the Drug Trade.
    And will dramatically reduce Prison Populations by not having to House Addicts.

    By requiring Addicts to receive their Drugs of Choice from Medical Facilities; Staff will be able to help Addicts to End their Dependency! And the only requirement for the Addict is to always carry their Prescription when having Possession of any Illicit Drug(s).

    Anyone having Illicit Drugs in their Possession without a Prescription will be Arrested and Charged! Anyone found to be having an amount over the Personal Limit will be Charged as a Dealer! Charges as a Dealer will carry more stringent penalties than just Possession without a Prescription!

    The So Called Drug War is Lost!

    It’s Time We Start Thinking Outside of the Box and Start a New Strategy!

    • The GLB

      Mr. Hogg Legg, you have made this way more complicated then it need be.

      The simple solution: Decriminalize drugs and allow the individual states to decide what is or is NOT allowed.

      As for providing free drugs: Who gives away these ‘FREE’ drugs to addicts? That sounds like just one more bureaucracy that is going to constantly require more and more funding, just like every other Federal bureaucracy.

      • DaveH

        Government has no business determining what poisons people put in their own bodies, as long as they don’t trespass on the bodies and property of others.

      • Nadzieja Batki

        DaveH, but you missed adding to your comment. If a person takes drugs they themselves must control themselves and not leave their house Period. Once they cross over the threshold they are infringing on other peoples Liberty. But since taking drugs impairs judgement they do cross over the threshold and endanger other people.
        When using drugs determine that if anything untoward happens to you no one will call an ambulance on your behalf because you have no claim on someone elses time and money to save your sorry ass.

      • http://malcolmkyle.wordpress.com malcolmkyle

        Nadzieja Batki, Alcohol (United States) is a factor in the following:

        * 73% of all felonies * 73% of child beating cases * 41% of rape cases * 80% of wife battering cases * 72% of stabbings * 83% of homicides.

        According to the Australian National Drug Research Institute (2003): “Tobacco, alcohol and illicit drugs are prematurely killing around seven million people worldwide each year, and robbing tens of millions more of a healthy life. The research into the global burden of disease attributable to alcohol, tobacco and illicit drugs found that in 2000, tobacco use was responsible for 4.9 million deaths worldwide, equating to 71 percent of all drug-related deaths. Around 1.8 million deaths were attributable to the use of alcohol (26 percent of all drug-related deaths), and illicit drugs (heroin, cocaine and amphetamines) caused approximately 223,000 deaths (3 percent of all drug-related deaths).”

        According to DrugRehabs.Org, national mortality figures for 2009 were: tobacco 435,000; poor diet and physical inactivity 365,000; alcohol 85,000; microbial agents 75,000; toxic agents 55,000; motor vehicle crashes 26,347; adverse reactions to prescription drugs 32,000; suicide 30,622; incidents involving firearms 29,000; homicide 20,308; sexual behaviors 20,000; all illicit drug use, direct and indirect 17,000; and marijuana 0.

        Researchers led by Professor David Nutt, a former chief drugs adviser to the British government, asked drug-harm experts to rank 20 drugs (legal and illegal) on 16 measures of harm to the user and to wider society, such as damage to health, drug dependency, economic costs and crime. Alcohol scored 72 out of a possible 100, far more damaging than heroin (55) or crack cocaine (54). It is the most harmful to others by a wide margin, and is ranked fourth behind heroin, crack, and methamphetamine (crystal meth) for harm to the individual.

        http://www.economist.com/blogs/dailychart/2010/11/drugs_cause_most_harm

        So next time you have a glass of wine, Nadzieja, follow your own rule and lock yourself in!

      • Nadzieja Batki

        Ultimately, leave drugs as a state-regulated issue. If you want to use idrugs, move to a state that allows drugs. However, transportation of the substances will not be allowed through the states that prohibit it. This includes using their road system, airspace, and waterways if they are a coastal state.This way all the drug addled brains will confine themselves to one area. If other people have sense they will leave those states to their own demise. No welfare goodies to support the drug addled, no funding of any kind.

      • Nadzieja Batki

        Malcolmkyle, your comment would have had a better effect if you hadn’t stamped your foot in a proverbial hissy fit.

  • Rob

    The feds love the war on drugs! Fast and furious is just the begining. There were more than just a few guns delivered to these cartels fby our own government. With a corrupt central banking cartel, (the fed) in place you can bet that they are laundering drug money through US banks. Ever think that drug money could bail out wall street?
    The feds are allowing this filth into our country because they have found an unlimited revenue source. They are lawless filthy scum bags just as much as the cartels that come acroos our border and murder innocent americans

  • Dad

    Gee, perhaps we could secure our borders… that might help. Encouraging illegals for a Democratic vote is not only expensive to Americans, but enables/encourages the drug trade. These are not cheap votes!
    (Of course Obama and Holder arming the drug cartels is another subject).

    • http://malcolmkyle.wordpress.com malcolmkyle

      Ever heard of tunnels, narco-subs, narco-drones, catapults, threats, and huge bribes? If you haven’t then maybe you should kindly consider moving back to planet earth :-)

  • dan

    I’m thinking about a fence around Washington to keep the inmates from escaping….
    and letting the rest of us be free

    • momo

      Good idea!!!

    • http://malcolmkyle.wordpress.com malcolmkyle

      How about pits & bulldozers?

      • moonbeam

        How about a shark-filled moat?

  • Nancy in Nebraska

    The “war on drugs” isn’t going to end! It’s the gift that keeps on giving! It’s the greatest transfer of wealth since…well I don’t know what, taxes??? Think of how many black ops have been financed with drug money! It would be kind of hard to pull these off if you had to go to congress and ask for the money! The government extorts money from the cartels in exchange for doing business. There is NO war on drugs! They are too profitable! Keep in mind, there is profit at every level! After you put the junkie in prison, you can do your corporate buddies a favor by giving them the slave labor! Anybody notice that the more “drug education” we have in the schools, the more drug users we have? Gee, I wonder why? We gotta keep the product moving! Money, money, money!!!

    • The GLB

      Good points Nancy.

      Can anyone guess how much heroin use has gone up in the U.S. in the eleven-year-poppy-field-protection-police action in Afghanistan?

  • eddie47d

    On Nov 6th in Colorado we will vote to legalize marijuana. Communities will be allowed to have an opt out yet marijuana will be allowed to be grown,packaged,taxed and sold to anyone over 21. So far the issue may pass but it is too close to tell. I do not smoke at all but I do endorse its passage. Colorado is well known for its many micro breweries and even the Governor is in the business. Legalizing alcohol kept the more dangerous moonshine out of most communities. Although some drugs are a real menace (meth) we have to make wiser choices in this failed drug war.

    • Nancy in Nebraska

      Marijuana is just too petty to deal with. The big money is on the other drugs. I think we’ll see the legalization of marijuana all over the country, soon. Think of it this way, marijuana IS a gateway drug for many people (I know, not everyone, but many easily addicted people). What better way to get more customers for your product?

  • Bob Rice

    Hi,im NOT a doper !! but,i sincerely believe all drugs should be legalized, (de-criminalized) let the US Govt import all drugs,and add a huge tax on them,we could pay off our (obamas)debt in 5 years or less.

    • DaveH

      You had me Bob, up to the “tax” remark. Why should we give the Government more of our money to grow on and abuse more of our Freedom?

  • johno

    The whole thing is ridiculous. I’m not a user but I’ll bet given a few days I could get any drug in my small town. I could talk my way into a prescription to the most dangerous drugs and yet I can’t get raw milk .

    • DaveH

      Raw milk, that most dangerous of substances:
      http://archive.mises.org/17368/ron-paul-mark-thornton-raw-milk/

      Be sure to read the linked articles by Mark Thornton and Jeffrey Tucker.

    • http://malcolmkyle.wordpress.com malcolmkyle

      “Days”??? The availability of most of these mood-altering drugs has become so universal and unfettered that in most parts of the civilized world, any one of us would be able to procure practically any drug we wish within an hour.

  • Cam

    what everybody has to say in comments and replies are dead on…but what everyone is overlooking is that its the willingness of the nieborhoods and the people living there, in the u.s., to overlook or just plain deny the fact that the drug dealers are there,they may be thier kids,dads,friends,etc. and just let it happen for decades!and by then its far inbedded in thier life style that they dont do a dam thing about it either out of fear or greed or the simple fact they dont want friends or family in jail!these dealers think its thier job to hand down that job(dealing) to a little brother or friend-to show them the ropes-or they HAVE too join a local gang to survive-brainwashing in a sence-no one seems to put much pressure on these people to stay in school,graduate,collage or to get a job even do vollunteer work to pass on values or just to pass idle time till that job does arrive!to be active in your community to help fight this problem but they dont because of the lure of easy money and the lack of hard work needed to earn said money.these same people teach others to break n enter,rob,car-jack,etc. to get money to use as start up money for drugs to get connections started or to get cash for a habbit(fix)so they can function to do thier dealings!meanwhile back home the family members are going about thier daily lives either waiting for thier share to get to thier pocket for bills,rent,cigs or drink and groceries-or just deny and complain about the very dealers that ruins thier lives,weather it be through higher taxes or insurance and such.these people dont relize what thier doing effects every single person on the planet!!these people need to break this cycle to help put a stop to this drug war.and if you put all of the factors formentioned(and things not said)we as americans in a FREE country can do this and live without fear of being robbed or killed in our own nieborhoods!there are so many differant ways to paint this picture it’s just sickening,but the fact remains its happening everywhere in the u.s..dont even get me started on alaska(my brother moved there for oil pipeline in 70′s)and he’s dead now and the drug industry is directly related to it!!so please people just talk to your kids or friends or your family,and just to think all this im talking about to you is just to obtain and sell POT,not all the other illegal substances we the u.s. consume annualy!!remember-in america “we the people” are in charge!,we can change it….

    • http://malcolmkyle.wordpress.com malcolmkyle

      Yes, I agree, we need to talk to our children!

      Kids can ask some tough questions but those concerning prohibition are actually fairly easy to answer. Be straightforward: Explain concisely just how the unconscionable acts of parasitic prohibitionists at all levels of our bi-partisan police-state have raised gang warfare to a level not seen since the days of alcohol bootleggin­g; ­

      Explain how these unconscionable prohibitionists have creating a prison-for­-profit synergy with evil drug lords and terrorists;

      How they were able to remove many of our cherished and important civil liberties;

      How they’ve ensured that many previously unknown and contaminate­d drugs keep appearing on our streets, in our schools, and even in our prisons;

      How they’ve overcrowd­ing the courts and prisons, making it increasing­ly impossible to curtail the people who are really hurting and terrorizing­ others;

      And how they’ve helped to evolve local street gangs into transnatio­nal enterprise­s with intricate power structures that reach into every corner of society, and with significant social and military resources at their disposal.

      After you’ve explained all that: Show them how prohibitionists have manipulated well-meaning but gullible parents for decades; read them the following quote from Adolf Hitler’s “Mein Kampf”

      “The State must declare the child to be the most precious treasure of the people. As long as the government is perceived as working for the benefit of the children, the people will happily endure almost any curtailment of liberty and almost any deprivation.” 

      Finally, our children need to know that It’s always possible to prevent a dire situation turning into an irreversible and very bleak one; kindly explain to them what our very wise forefathers did back in 1933 —when they finally rejected the policy imposed on them by the exact same type of intolerant, hysterical, pathologically lying, criminally insane, corrupt, self-serving, control-freak bigots.

      Educate, regulate, and tax! 

      • Cam

        yes,valid quate.i just wish more people could see what this present gov’t is up to!(and some past)it has ben in the makings for decades and people are refusing to believe its true or even possible in this great country.people are easily perswaded when greed and power or hatred come into play.unions have evolved into this over the decades from helping peoples safety and a livable wage into the fatcat union bosses bulging wallet and political gain(they want to become thier own political party)this is brainwashing at its finist,just like forementioned paragraphs!we need as a country to communacate with each other better with better understanding and belief in each other!

  • Chester

    Concerning this war on drugs, just take a look back at how well the “war on alcohol” , formally called Prohibition, worked out. It created a huge organized crime problem that we are STILL sorting out. Alcohol IS legal now, with actual control left up to the states and localities. And yes, there ARE still dry counties in several states. Why not do the same with drugs? Legalize, but control, with taxation being the primary means of control. Less money going out, and quite a bit more coming in, but getting one more than half the representatives and fifty-one senators to agree to something like this is all but impossible.

  • HH

    Legalize marijuana and allow US farmers grow it like they do tobacco under a government regulated crop base. This will give farmers a cash crop that will help them financially and pump millions of dollars into the system………. legally. It would also open up a substantial support industry creating thousands of jobs.

    With the harsher drugs do something similar to what MrHoggLegg says, “……..having Medical Facilities provide Free Drugs of choice!”

    Drugs produced by drug company’s and paid for with the taxes received from the sales of marijuana would be safer for the user than bootlegged drugs. With free drugs there would be less crime because the druggies wouldn’t have to steal to feed their habit! Then we would need to work with those drug users and wean them off those drugs.

    Then we release all prisoners who are in for non violent drug related crimes and take the “then” unemployed federal drug agents and put them on our borders to secure them.

    Everybody wins except the Mexican drug cartels!!!

    • Cam

      the gov’t can and most likely will legalize good ol mary jane when they invent a portable device that mesures thc levels accuratly and quickly on the spot,like a breathalizer!that way arrests or fines can be dealt with on the spot and not glog up the courts or officers time during and after each shift!saving millions on that (overtime)while bringing in millions all at the same time!invent this-be rich!this country is all about that isnt it?not a whole room full of scientist but just one or two really smart people to invent it,put a patent on it and take care of your family and the friends in your life..start inventing people!!lol..

      • HH

        I’d take someone much smarter than me Cam! :)

      • http://smoovious.wordpress.com Smoovious Laxness

        > the gov’t can and most likely will legalize good ol mary jane
        > when they invent a portable device that mesures thc levels
        > accuratly and quickly on the spot,like a breathalizer!

        They don’t have any incentive whatsoever to do that, and as long as it is still illegal, their focus is on making testing cover as long of a period as possible, as that increases their arrest rate.

        They will never focus on making a test specifically for pre-metabolized THC, until after decriminalization has taken place.

        Sorry… decriminalization has to come first.

        – Smoov

  • HH

    … I forgot click the “Notify me of follow-up comments via email” button before I posted! Woops!

    • Cam

      yeah im not that smart either or id be riding my harley in hawaii hanging out on the beach chasing the native girls and dont worry i forgot the notified button too!!haha..

      • HH

        I don’t have a Harley but I’d be right there with ya on my Valkyrie!

  • cerebus23

    Cept reading thc levels is highly speculative since people have different tolerances, and you do not get “intoxicated” on mj to the point you cannot function unlike many other drugs including pills and booze. Also add into the mix different strains give different highs.

    So i dunno what good or why you would need to breathlize someone suspected of pot smoking either way, pupil dialation etc are good indicators of a pot high.

    • Cam

      they already have a thc indecator that they place over your eye,when blood vessles break,its just like a blood test thats pos for thc-but can not tell the llevel of the thc(streangth)there for your considered under the influence of mj!thats why the need for something that tells how much is in the system and that would be enough to bust you on the spot,its just up to regulators to figure whats illegal and whats legal levels to operate a vehicalthats why the need for invention of such a device.doesnt matter to the persons ability under influence just the level in system,metabalizem would be of little consequence at the point of being pulled over for going 10mph in a 55!

  • libertarian58

    20 years ago Bo Gritz exposed the CIA as the biggest drug trafficker in the US. He was endlessly vilified by all aspects of the “establishment”. Prohibition was a disaster that turned two-bit thugs into millionaires and the W.O.D. is no different, but this time it is also being used to build the worlds largest police state, right under our noses. It also provides thousands of “free employees” for our FOR PROFIT prison system.

  • s c

    WHAT war on drugs? Any “war” we ever had on drugs was LOST many years ago, folks. By the way, did anyone in the White House have the GUTS to mention that CHICAGO is the heart and soul of Amerika’s drug cartel problem? Hope and change and transparency, my aching ARSE! HOW do you tell the difference between the ‘good’ guys and the criminals?
    I wonder if the law enforcement types in Illinois know yet what happened with Chicago and DRUGS? It seems to have ESCAPED them.

    • Cam

      chicago politics it used to be called!years ago i used to hang out at the dome room,the drink and everyones favorite the exit..and down by the bridge,just like all the beggers and ladies of ill repeut hanging out,the drug dealers are abound on weekends.the police would just drive by and the ladies would scatter but beggers would stop begging but the dealers would just continue like nothing new to them,tells you something right there,we were confused on that since we were drunk and looking for the car and a stop at barittoville for headsize barittos the cops seamed not to care as long as they stayed down there!follow the cash on that is right!you can speed through town,double park even piss on the apt. gates by barittoville rip up christmas lights by the bank and do burn outs with the car and cops are non existant,so either the cops are sleeping on the job thier not doing or they make enough money not to care and their always bitching and threatening to strick with the union,so im guessing they make enough money on the side not to care!!and to think our fearless leader is from this corrupt sleepy little city of chicago,haha!check out the reason oboma cant be convicted of anything he’s doing in washington-he singed into law(around midnight on a friday)in a back room a little piece of paper saying he cannot be held accountable for any wrongdoing,even though its illegal!!just like the 105million he stole and put into the healthcare bill in an earmark,when he got cought it was too late because it had ben passed into law!thets why he and pelosi shoved it down our throats and threatened all those senators,gov.,and whoever else he threatened on a joyride on air force one!!thats oboma,his wife aint no better,she hated this country till they got into the whitehouse,she even admitted it on tv!!thats why the drug cartels love chicago so much,all the officials are crooked as hell!!

  • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing Jay

    Washington and the mass media have portrayed the U.S. as being in the forefront of the struggle against narco trafficking, drug laundering and political corruption: the image is of clean white hands fighting dirty money. The truth is exactly the opposite.

    U.S. banks have developed a highly elaborate set of policies for transferring illicit funds to the U.S., investing those funds in legitimate businesses or U.S. government bonds and legitimating them. The U.S. Congress has held numerous hearings, provided detailed exposés of the illicit practices of the banks, passed several laws and called for stiffer enforcement by any number of public regulators and private bankers.

    Yet the biggest banks continue their practices, the sum of dirty money grows exponentially, because both the State and the banks have neither the will nor the interest to put an end to the practices that provide high profits and buttress an otherwise fragile empire.

    http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/economy/053101_banks.html

  • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing Jay

    The CIA’s Drug-Trafficking Activities

    The CIA’s operational directorate, in other words that’s their covert operations, para-military, dirty tricks — call it whatever you want — has for at least 40 years that we can document paid for a significant amount of its work through the sales of heroin and cocaine. — Guerrilla News Network’s Interview with Christopher Simpson

    ClA-supported Mujahedeen rebels [who in 2001 were part of the "Northern Alliance" fighting the Taleban which became the core of the new Afghani government following the U.S. attack on Afghanistan in late 2001] engaged heavily in drug trafficking while fighting against the Soviet-supported government and its plans to reform the very backward Afghan society. The Agency’s principal client was Gulbuddin Hekmatyar, one of the leading druglords and a leading heroin refiner. CIA-supplied trucks and mules, which had carried arms into Afghanistan, were used to transport opium to laboratories along the Afghan/Pakistan border. The output provided up to one half of the heroin used annually in the United States and three-quarters of that used in Western Europe. U.S. officials admitted in 1990 that they had failed to investigate or take action against the drug operation because of a desire not to offend their Pakistani and Afghan allies. — The Real Drug Lords

    The U.S. Central Intelligence Agency, as is by now well-known by anyone who has cared to be informed, has long been deeply involved in the international trafficking of the addictive drugs heroin and (since the early 1980s, if not earlier) cocaine, the enormous profits from which have financed, and continue to finance, both U.S. covert operations and the U.S. military (via payments to Pentagon contractors).

    The main reason why this is not more widely known is that the main players in the U.S. media have always worked to protect the Agency and to keep the American public in the dark as to the nature of its activities (as documented in great detail in Carl Bernstein’s article in the October 20, 1977, issue of Rolling Stone: “The CIA and the Media: How America’s Most Powerful News Media Worked Hand in Glove with the Central Intelligence Agency and Why the Church Committee Covered It Up”). The information you will find on this web page, and the web pages it links to, is not considered by the editors of the New York Times and other mainstream U.S. “news” media as proper for the public to know.

    By the end of the 1980′s it was calculated that the illegal use of drugs in the United States now netted its controllers over $110 billion a year. — Modern Times, p.782.

    Covert government by defense contractor means corrupt wars of conquest, government by dope dealer. When the world’s traditional inebriative herbs become illegal commodities, they become worth as much as precious metal, precious metal that can be farmed. … Illegal drugs, solely because of the artificial value given them by Prohibition, have become the basis of military power anywhere they can be grown and delivered in
    quantity. … To this day American defense contractors are the biggest drug-money launderers in the world.— Drug War: Covert Money, Power and Policy, p.318.

    http://www.serendipity.li/cia.html

  • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing Jay

    Up Against the Beast: High-level Drug Running
    -by URI DOWBENKO (NEXUS MAGAZINE)

    http://www.conspiracyplanet.com/channel.cfm?ChannelID=35

  • uvuvuv

    if it’s dems predominantly using drugs then by all means legalize them. this is also why abortion should be free and easy.

  • Jimmy the Greek

    Well this was a very interesting read as i take a hit off the hooter that was just passed to me .

  • Dwight Mann

    I got ten years in prison invested in this war. Is the Government going to pay me for All I have lost?
    Legalize it, and control it dirty bastard government. . .

  • sam1966

    losers are users and users are losers, so don’t do drugs, don’t do drugs. Keep them illegal. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!

    You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot.

  • Chris

    The war on drugs is a joke. Oh you may read about drugs being confiscated here and there, but they should NOT be coming into this country TO be confiscated. The powers that be could really stop it if they wanted to. Legalize it so “druggies” won’t steal? Druggies don’t have any money NOW and will STILL STEAL to get it legally. If the drugs are NOT AVAILABLE, they can’t be used………..period!

  • Tony

    I wonder if this has anything to do with CITI CEO resignation today ?

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