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The Family Affair

August 23, 2012 by  

The Family Affair
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Anyone who has a younger brother will know what I mean. There are rules about dealing with younger brothers. They spend most of their time aggravating you, embarrassing you or otherwise making your life more difficult than it probably needs to be. My own younger brother (God bless the big oaf) has made a career out of making me roll my eyes. I look the other way because he’s so handy when I need to reach stuff on the higher shelves or need someone to lift something heavy while I drink beer. In return for putting up with the endless shenanigans our wayward brothers visit upon us, we get to smack them around a bit. Through it all, they’re our brothers.

And yet, at some point we all have to face the fact that our wee sibs have grown too large to either shove around or shelter. To be sure, when their need is desperate, we’ll be there. But sometimes, when they pick a fight they might lose, we have to step back and let them lose it. We can’t always bail them out when they go wrong; and we have learned how well bailouts generally work.

Hence, it’s with a heavy heart that I must say: Israel needs to stand alone. I understand the value of maintaining friendly ties with the lone legitimate republic in the Mideast. But there is a wide gulf between backing up an ally and diving in front of bullets on their behalf every time some hopped-up Haji decides to take a shot at them. The Islamofascist tide sweeping across the dustier parts of the world — a revolution hailed by both sides in Washington as a bold step forward — is growing. Iran is clearly pursuing nuclear weapons capability. Two different breeds of rabid dogs are fighting over Syria. The anti-Semitic rhetoric emanating from places like Saudi Arabia (Jews drink children’s blood) and Egypt (reports indicate they’ve actually begun crucifying people) is more disturbing than a New Black Panther Party rally. The Russians and Communist Chinese are backing — well — both sides, and we are countering their gambit by backing — well — both sides.

Now Israel is lacing up its gloves again, a fact amply explained in Brandon Smith’s Syria And Iran Dominos Lead To World War. These scrappers have been circling each other since 1947. In fact, some iteration of this card has been on the schedule for the better part of 5 millenia. Israel has dropped the Islamofascists to the canvas more often than not, but the sons of Muhammad have bloodied their Abrahamic cousins a few times. The Israelis will never cede their right to exist. Their opponents believe Jews — hence, Israel — are the human equivalent of some virulent disease. They don’t want to fight; they have to fight. And that’s where our problems start. We are treaty-bound to assist Israel in its own defense. And we hold up our end quite nicely — to the tune of billions of dollars annually.

The reality of the situation is this: At some point, Israel and their neighbors are going to tangle. The Israelis are certainly up to par in that department — a fact they have proven simply by remaining in existence despite the none-too-subtle promises of extermination from and by every Tariq, Dakhil and Hakim. And the wars of decades past against Tariq’s, Dakhil’s and Hakim’s grandfathers serve to remind that a frontal assault is a fool’s errand. For that matter, a surprise attack will probably flop like Joe Biden addressing a Mensa conference. And the threat of American involvement will loom large as long as the Islamofascists can stay on their feet.

Even a proxy war between Israel and some combination of Syria (or whatever’s left of it), Iran, Egypt and the various terrorist groups operating in the area will tax our resources as we prop up the Israelis against the Chicom- and Russian-backed jihadis. Should Obama decide to pretend he’s a wartime leader while simultaneously threatening to slash our defense budget, the cost will escalate from money to lives. That’s not a cost we can readily absorb.

Israel is our geopolitical little brother. It exasperates us, even occasionally steals from us. We shield Israel, coddle Israel and occasionally stand to defend Israel. But we’ve already done enough. If the situation reaches dire straits, we’ll indubitably step in. Until then, let Israel step out on its own.

–Ben Crystal

Ben Crystal

is a 1993 graduate of Davidson College and has burned the better part of the last two decades getting over the damage done by modern-day higher education. He now lives in Savannah, Ga., where he has hosted an award-winning radio talk show and been featured as a political analyst for television. Currently a principal at Saltymoss Productions—a media company specializing in concept television and campaign production, speechwriting and media strategy—Ben has written numerous articles on the subjects of municipal authoritarianism, the economic fallacy of sin taxes and analyses of congressional abuses of power.

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  • Allen

    We won’t need to step in, Germany will. In fact Germany is going to have a huge impact on the middle-east very soon.

    • steve

      tell that to the people of poland. germany took them out in 5 days because know one heeded the warning.

      • Joe Hammond

        You are historically inaccurate. The Nazi German campaign in Poland (Case White) lasted over 1 month. The German invasion began on 1 September 1939. The campaign ended on 6 October 1939 with Germany and the Soviet Union dividing and annexing the whole of Poland.

    • Karolyn

      Are you kidding me?

    • don

      so you decided this all on your own. come on out an say what you really mean.

    • James Hastings

      I think your right. “Like a whirl wind”.

  • darren

    you must not read the bible or if you do you must not understand it. Irregardless if one nation says lets wipe them off the face of the earth and we have the capability to stop them then we must. Evil is going on all around you and if you put your head in the sand then it will bite you in the rear. Have a spine and support something.

    • Corkey

      It doesn’t say that in the Bible, Darren. That is your interpretation of its meaning and you totally leave out it was written under The Old Covenant which was replaced by the New Covenant at the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ.

      • steve

        tell that to the jews . they still obey the old testament, not the new

      • Anthony Stevenson

        Rubbish!

      • Anthony Stevenson

        You are soooo misguided!

      • Gordon

        Jesus said, “I have not come to destroy the law, but to fulfill it.” Is Jesus a liar? Contrary to popular belief the Old Testament Law was not removed, only the blood sacrifice for atonement was fulfilled by the fulfilling of the promise of the coming Messiah. All else still applies in principle. Just because modern history attempts to nullify the Ten Commandments and implement multiple modern hereseys into the religious establishment, doesn’t mean they are correct. God is still God whether you like it or not.

      • Roy Peterson

        Please, see my reply to Gordon…two things and two things ONLY have been replaced by The New Covenant…the daily and yearly blood sacrifice and the immediate penalty for sins.

      • Roy Peterson

        Corkey, please read my reply to Gordon after you read this. The ONLY thing replaced by the New Covenant(Testament) was the daily and yearly sacrifice for the remission of sins, and then the immediate or prompt punishment for sins was postponed so as to give space for proper repentance. The punishment for sin is still SEVERE.

      • jason

        There was only one Covenant given to the Jewish people. Nothing replaced it for us.
        Israel and the Jewish people survived centuries of persecution and our enemies are gone. The same will happen to the new/old enemies of today.
        Israel needs political backing in the u.n. and to be able to purchase the latest weapons and weapon systems from the U.S. We do not need the U.S. military to defend us.
        And crystal knows that. I thought he was intelligent, but I know after reading this article. I was wrong. Maybe he joined the obammer team with this nonsense.

        • OOOOPPert EEEEpert

          The UN?? It’s the most anti- Israel org. ever!!!!

      • Roy Peterson

        So sorry for the confusion, ….apparently one cannot reply directly under Corkey’s post. I’ve tried twice and I’m always placed under Gordon’s…well, Gordon is mostly right-on in his comment in answer to Corkey’s 1st post. Jesus DID say, specifically that his coming did not negate “one jot or tittle” of the law, the Old Testament, The Torah. The way God did things in the OldTestament, he did them in the New, and will do them until his Son returns(probably not very long from now). The Word says, I am God, I change not” and then in the New, he said of his Son(the great I Am of the Old Testament), Jesus, the same yesterday, today and forever ! We, as Christ’s followers, have not replaced the Jewish people as for as God is concerned…we have simply been grafted into the Vine, via the blood of Jesus.

      • moonbeam

        Gordon, “Contrary to popular belief the Old Testament Law was not removed…”

        That may be popular belief and that is the problem. What is popular is world tradition. Jesus absolutely abolished the whole law by fulfilling it with His death on the cross. We are now under Grace, which must NEVER be mixed with the law. However, many churches mix the law with grace each and every Sunday. And people wonder why I stopped going to church.

        The tithe: This was a commandment given ONLY to the Children of Israel for the support of the Levite priests. Where are the Levite priests? Not in the churches of today. There is only one high priest, Jesus Christ, after the order of Melchisidec. Astute bible readers know what I’m talking about here.

        In church, the pastor stands in the pulpit saying it is time for the giving of the tithes. This is mixing the law with grace. A BIG No-No! We are no longer under the law. What we give is a “Love Offering” under Grace. The law never saved, but actually condemned. The sacrifices were for atonement, not remission of sins. This, the law could not do.

        Yes, Jesus spoke of the tithe, but this was BEFORE His death. At His death the entire law was abolished, not just “part” of it. The veil was rent (ripped from top to bottom) so that ALL could come in to the holiest of holies instead of just the priests.

      • James Hastings

        “All scripture is inspired by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction…” 2 Tim 3:16…Christ didn’t do away with the Law and the prophets. He came to fulfill. The old testemant is relavent and prophetic. The “Minor” prophets speak volumes on the end times. Isaiah chapters 65 & 66 give a great inside into the Kingdom on earth. (major prophet)

      • Karolyn

        So, according to some of you, we should still be abiding by the laws such as not to each pork and shellfish and that women who have their periods need to be kept separate from everybody else?

      • http://katrael.wordpress.com Katrael

        Corkey, your assertion that any law of YHWH’s from the OT was done away with flies in the face of what Yahoshua (Jesus) said:

        The Scriptures
        Mat 5:17 “Do not think that I came to destroy the Torah or the Prophets.1 I did not come to destroy but to complete. Footnote: 1The Law and the Prophets is a term used for the pre-Messianic Scriptures.
        Mat 5:18 “For truly, I say to you, till the heaven and the earth pass away, one jot or one tittle shall by no means pass from the Torah till all be done.1 Footnote: 1Lk. 16:17.
        Mat 5:19 “Whoever, then, breaks one of the least of these commands, and teaches men so, shall be called least in the reign of the heavens; but whoever does and teaches them, he shall be called great in the reign of the heavens.
        Mat 5:20 “For I say to you, that unless your righteousness exceeds that of the scribes and Pharisees,1 you shall by no means enter into the reign of the heavens. Footnote: 1Mt. 15:3-9, Mk. 7:7-13, John 7:19, Acts 7:53, Rom. 2:23-27, Gal. 6:13.

        KJV
        Mat 5:17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
        Mat 5:18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
        Mat 5:19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

        Hebraic Roots Bible
        Mat 5:17 Do not think that I came to annul the Torah or the Prophets; I did not come to annul, but to fulfill.
        Mat 5:18 Truly I say to you, Until the heaven and the earth pass away, in no way shall one yod or one stroke pass away from the Torah until all comes to pass.
        Mat 5:19 Therefore, whoever loosens one of these commandments, the least, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the worst in the kingdom of Heaven. But whoever does and teaches them, this one shall be called great in the kingdom of Heaven.

        I know that many quote Paul as much of his writings are difficult to understand and easy to twist but if Yahoshua (Jesus) said that nothing was done away with then who is Paul (shaul) to contradict Yahoshua (Jesus). The law that Paul was referring to is man’s law and are all of the laws added to the Torah by the Jews and those are the ones that are impossible to keep. Just like the the vast majority of the laws we have in our country now are impossible to keep.

        Having said all this, no one is required to watch over Israel unless they have given their word to do it. Our creator has a plan and it calls for Israel to be invaded and for Jerusalem to almost be wiped out but YHWH intervenes at the last minute and stops it’s total annihilation from occurring.

        Hebraic Roots Bible
        Zec 14:1 Behold, the day of YAHWEH comes, and your spoil shall be divided among you.
        Zec 14:2 For I will gather all the nations to battle against Jerusalem. And the city shall be captured, and the houses plundered, and the women raped. And half the city shall go into exile and the rest of the people shall not be cut off from the city.
        Zec 14:3 And YAHWEH shall go out and fight against those nations, like the day He fought in the day of battle.

        • HEBREW HARRY

          It’s simple…Jesus said, “I come not to change the Law, but to fulfill it.”

          • http://katrael.wordpress.com Katrael

            HEBREW HARRY, it is simple however, too many don’t understand simple English so I used several sources to make my point.

          • HEBREW HARRY

            May all Jews like myself, learn the truth about Yehshua….Jesus the Christ!!!! Prince Of Peace !!!!

          • http://katrael.wordpress.com Katrael

            HEBREW HARRY, this is getting off on a tangent but it’s good direction to go in. Many Jews don’t believe in Jesus because they don’t see him in the Tanak. However, he is mentioned by his real name almost two hundred times in the Hebrew language. The Hebraic scriptures, written in Hebrew on scrolls isn’t read by most Jews so they have no idea he’s there. They trust in and rely upon the Rabbis for their understanding the same way Christians rely on their ministers for guidance. What has made things even worse for the modern Jew is the bad transliteration of His name into Greek then into English. There is no similarity between the names Jesus and Yehoshua/Yeshua. Anyway, I agree with you that Yehoshua/Yeshua is the prince of peace but, he’s going to have to cleanse the world before he becomes peaceful to it.

          • HEBREW HARRY

            Have you ever read the Talmud?.There’s a lot of great enlightening things in there..But,it says in some of the books that Jesus was the Devil & told people he could fly…all kind of BS….The Jews believe GOD IS ONE, “Hear Oh, Israel, the Lord our God, the Lord is ONE”…so they deny the Trinity…the best explanation anyone gave me to refute this is was by a Messianic Jew friend who I met years ago: “It’s like a bunch of grapes, there are a lot of grapes, but it is ONE BUNCH”

            In essence, all life is ONE !!!!! Everything that comes for God is connected !!

            YEHSHUA: (JOSHUA): “I AM COME TO SAVE”

          • http://katrael.wordpress.com Katrael

            HEBREW HARRY, no I have not read the Talmud. I was a Jew raised as a Catholic. I was immersed in Christianity and later became “born again” The last twenty years of my life have been spent learning about my Hebraic roots. I’ve been learning Hebrew and some Aramaic so that I can read the Tanak without the aid of a Rabbi or the interference of a Christian Minister. I’m also trying to get my hands on the Aramaic renewed testament. It reads differently than most Bible translations do.

            The problem with the trinity? As I see it the doctrine of the trinity makes for a closed group. Our destiny as I see it is to become members of YHWH’s family sharing his power and authority thus the size of the group is unlimited. We accomplish becoming YHWH through marriage with his first born son which becomes apparent when you study the Renewed Testament. The analogy of the cluster of grapes is a good one. There is only one YHWH mentioned in the Tanak. In my opinion there are only two YHWH’s right now but, hopefully that will soon change. Yehoshua/Yeshua is the other one. He carries his Father’s name as all who follow him will one day. The first three letters of YHWH’s name are found in his son’s name. יהושׁוּע (Yehoshua) יהוה (YHWH)

            Hebraic Roots Rev_3:12 The one overcoming, I will make him a pillar in the sanctuary of My Elohim, and he shall not go out any more. And I will write the name of My Elohim on him, and the name of the city of My Elohim, the New Jerusalem which comes down out of Heaven from My Elohim, and My new name.

            Rev 22:3 And there will be no blight any more: and the throne of YAHWEH and the Lamb will be in it; and His servants will minister to Him.
            Rev 22:4 And they will see His face; and His name will be on their foreheads.
            Rev 22:5 And night will not be there; and they have no need of a lamp or a light of the sun, because YAHWEH Elohim will give them light. And they shall reign for ever and ever.

          • HEBREW HARRY

            I’m a practicing Catholic…I also remind you that Father, should also include Mother…as Church does with Mary…Luther made a grave error when he started his church & got rid of Feminine aspect of God…the Divine Mother

            MARY= “MA RAY”

          • http://katrael.wordpress.com Katrael

            HEBREW HARRY, though I no longer consider myself to be Catholic, I do appreciate anyone who is truly sincere about their faith. Over the years I’ve met Catholics who don’t just go to church for the sake of appearances and I enjoy the company of such people. I believe that there are ideas that people can find to focus on that they agree with when they don’t agree with other things…even if those other things seem vitally important to them.

            I don’t know about you but I feel that this nation is in trouble because it’s strayed from the straight and narrow…if it was ever on it? I see a nation that was blessed by YHWH because of unconditional promises He made to his people and now that he’s kept his Word this nations continued blessings depend on it’s people and leaders doing the correct things. It’s my feeling that for the most part the people in this nation are incapable of doing the correct things.

          • OOOOPPert EEEEpert

            I encourage you to read Herbert W. Armstrong’s, “AMERICA & BRITAIN IN PROPHECY”

            available for free from Philadelphia Church of God: 1-800-772-8577

            You will be amazed at what the true Israel really is…from your words, you seem to be on right track.

          • Anthony Stevenson

            Are you in love with Mr. Armstrong or is HE your god?

          • OOOOPPert EEEEpert

            I’m, in love with TRUTH & this book has it in his interpretations of biblical prophecy, which I believe are correct…..have you ever read it? If not, I suggest you do & then make a real evaluation instead of condemning me!

            I have never belonged to his church, nor have a desire to join,I never met him…but, I do remember seeing him on TV when I was very young.

            I feel it is my duty to spread the truth……AMERICA IS ISRAEL , the promise kept to Abraham & his seed!!!

          • http://katrael.wordpress.com Katrael

            OOOOPPert EEEEpert, only ignorant people argue against the United States being an important part of Israel. The United States is Manasseh and even some of our founding fathers knew that we are a part of Israel. You don’t have to turn to Herbert Armstrong to get that information. There are any number of sources for that information. I don’t have it here but there was a book written by the title of “The Lost Ten Tribes of Israel Found” by Steven M. Collins. In my opinion he did a good job of supporting this premise.

            Most people don’t want this idea the that the United States is Israel to be true because it lends too much credence to the Bible and the Idea that YHWH is in charge of things and that he wants us to live a certain type of lifestyle. Oh well.

          • OOOOPPert EEEEpert

            Thank you for the info….I believe though that USA is EPHRAIM, not Manasseh….Because, “The younger would become greater than the elder.”

            Armstrong’s interpretations also throw light on European union , too.

          • http://katrael.wordpress.com Katrael

            OOOOPPert EEEEpert, You probably are correct. I’m used to reading the KJV and it gives this interpretation of this:

            Gen 48:19 וימאן אביו ויאמר ידעתי בני ידעתי גם־הוא יהיה־לעם וגם־הוא יגדל ואולם אחיו הקטן יגדל ממנו וזרעו יהיה מלא־הגוים׃

            That word מלא is interpreted to mean “multitude” as shown below but others interpret the word to mean something else that even Strong’s says is appropriate. It’s the “multitude of nations thing that has led some to believe that Ephraim is Great Briton because of the “multitude” thing but looking at other interpretations of the same will give a very different viewpoint.

            KJV: Gen 48:19 And his father refused, and said, I know it, my son, I know it: he also shall become a people, and he also shall be great: but truly his younger brother shall be greater than he, and his seed shall become a multitudeH4393 of nations.

            H4393
            מלו מלוא מלא
            melô’ melô’ melô
            mel-o’, mel-o’, mel-o’
            From H4390; fulness (literally or figuratively): – X all along, X all that is (there-) in, fill, (X that whereof . . . was) full, fulness, [hand-] full, multitude.

            The Scriptures: Gen 48:19 But his father refused and said, “I know, my son, I know. He also becomes a people, and he also is great. And yet, his younger brother is greater than he, and his seed is to become the completeness of the nations.”

            Hebraic Roots: Gen 48:19 And his father refused and said, I know, my son, I know. He also shall be a people, and he shall become great. But his younger brother shall become greater than he, and his seed shall become the fullness of the nations.

            These last two quotes are in better agreement. Also the “shall become greater” part of this verse would seem to establish a time frame as the United States became greater after England did. Oh well. The real point of what we write is this:

            Gen 48:16 the Messenger who has redeemed me from all evil – bless the youths! And let my name be called upon them, and the name of my fathers Aḇraham and Yitsḥaq. And let them increase to a multitude in the midst of the earth.”

            Jacobs name became Yisrael and he placed that name on these two and so England and the United States are Yisrael. But then there are Yisraelites scattered all over the world.

            What few see is how the Yisraelites had been scattered but you can follow them historically. I did read that book from World Wide but it was a long time ago.

            Be well and prosper.

          • OOOOPPert EEEEpert

            Thank you for this & there is also a prophecy regarding Manasseh being “a nation & an assembly of nations”…Armstrong taking the assembly of nations to be THE COMMONWEALTH of Great Britain. You are only person in all these replies that has agreed with me & knows the truth.

            The essential point is that neither Ancient Israel or the modern nation in the Middle East ever fulfilled these prophecies

          • http://katrael.wordpress.com Katrael

            OOOOPPert EEEEpert, I find that most people are stuck on their own theories. I get stuck at times but it seems that YHWH want’s me to know the truth and gives me a helping hand at times that eventually gets me going again. It helps when you find the truth and it conflicts with the accepted explanation of things then it’s time to study. Most people won’t do that and they’ll go to their local authority, be it their minister or Rabbi, for an explanation instead of trusting what they’ve discovered. It’s difficult at times as I find that I’m somewhat isolated from others who are really seeking the truth. Do you find yourself alone at times?

            I also find that people find some truth then they stop accepting anything else and stop short of the goal. We have to guard ourselves from doing that. I know that I want to hold onto what I already have in some kind of a hope that I’ve got it all but I know better than that and I’m willing to look. Since I don’t believe I’m all that different from others I believe this partially explains why people stop accepting anything different. One other thing becomes apparent: being different automatically isolates you from those around you and you can become a social outcast. That happened when I started observing different times than my family and friends. I’d rather know the truth and be set apart (holy) than to be socially accepted and to become separated from the true source of power. Be well and prosper.

          • OOOOPPert EEEEpert

            Some do find the truth & have a hard time dealing with it, so they leave it for a later time, this is called “karma dodging” or the “path of accommodation” in the “Teachings of the Ascended Masters”, many have found these teachings to be true, but do not want to put the hard work in to ascend…we believe in reincarnation & we believe it was taught in early Christian times, but taken out of the Bible by the dark forces….the key to life to us is to understand karma (you reap what you sow) & reembodiment (you have to come back to get it right & ascend back to the heart of God) & that the sacred energies you have misused through the wrong use of Free Will must be accounted for, every single jot & tittle must be balanced. There’s much more to ascension process than just saying “Jesus is my savior” & because of that I’m going to Heaven. See, the Fallen Ones have set it up that way, so people will not have to do the hard needed to overcome time & space, nad can just say “Jesus died for my sins” & I don’t have to do anything. Jesus’ whole message has been perverted greatly. Yes, he did come to balance world karma, but his main mission was to awaken everyone that we are Divine Beings & to show us the way to live , in that higher consciousness…he was the Hierarch of the Age of Pisces (LO, I AM with you even unto the end of the Age) & now , we are in Aqaurius.

            Everything you need is already inside of you, as Jesus said, “The Kingdom of Heaven is in you.”, it just has to be manifested into physical existence…,whatever you feel you need, go to God,& humbly ask the source of every good & perfect gift, go deep within & ask for that discernment to know the truth when it is shown to you. If you are lonely, (like we all get sometimes), ask for right the souls to be sent into your life, those who can help you fulfill your Divine Mission in this lifetime. We all have a Divine plan to fulfill.

            AS Jesus said “narrow is the way that leadeth to Life” , it is not an easy path, but in the long run ,what else is there? God is the only reality…. Sooner or later, all who sincerely bend the knee & yearn for truth & illumination & wisdom & peace will receive it.

            INNER MEANING OF WISDOM= “WISE DOMINION”

          • http://katrael.wordpress.com Katrael

            OOOOPPert EEEEpert, as to reincarnation. I’m not sure however I do sometimes feel like I’m an old soul perhaps billions of years old. Also the bible doesn’t say how old the earth is. In fact if you are able to read Hebrew you’d find that it says the Earth was created then became a void and desolation then the spirit, ruach haqodesh, moved on the face of the deep and then the much touted creation began. Here’s a fairly good translation of the first sentence in the Scriptures.

            The Scriptures: Gen 1:1 In the beginning Elohim created the heavens and the earth.
            Gen 1:2 And the earth came to be1 formless and empty, and darkness was on the face of the deep. And the Spirit of Elohim was moving on the face of the waters. Footnote: 1Or the earth became.

            With the exception of the first two words “in the” this translation is accurate.

            And by the way the first word in Hebrew is בראשׁית and can be interpreted here, because it’s not vowel pointed, as in the beginning or in a beginning but in the vowel pointed versions it reads in a beginning and not in the beginning. I’ve never seen a Rabbinic source properly translate what they read on Sabbaths. I’ve even got a version that is translated from a vowel pointed version by this Rabbinic scholar and even he translates it as “in the beginning”. I guess what you said earlier is true about the way people accept things.

            The world and the universe could be trillions of years old and the bible doesn’t say how old the earth is. People won’t accept that. They believe that to do so would somehow detract from the esteem of our Creator. He’s eternal and what’s a trillion years to him but something less than an the blink of the eye to us.

            Except for the names of the ages you listed I agree that there are ages and the signs are in the heavens. This next quote is about such a sign:

            Rev_12:1 And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars:

            I believe this is a reference to Betulah and is what the Hebrews called one of their constellations in the heavens. Here’s a link.

            http://www.freewebs.com/endtimeprophet/jewishmessiahborntishri1.htm There are others but I randomly picked this one.

            I like what you said about wisdom = wise dominion. There is great power in words when they line up with our thoughts and intentions. It’s a good thing that our ability to utilize creative power is restricted in this life or there probably wouldn’t be any life left.

          • OOOOPPert EEEEpert

            To think that the earth is only about 6,000 years old is ludicrous….

            Ever study Kabbalah ? I heard the first word, BERASHITH, (I BELIEVE) when broken down shows it was an act of love, the male & female energies coming together & orgasm was the Big Bang…It’s interesting that God first spoke then Light came, but as we know Light is faster than sound…To Buddhists & Hindus, OM is the sound that created Universe

            As far as reincarnation, there are still vestiges in Bible that show people believed in it back then…it was Council Of Nicea in around 348 A.D. that the dark forces expunged it .
            The people kept asking Jesus, “are you David”, “are you Elijah come again?” Why would they do that if they did not believe in reembodiment? (IN FACT, JESUS WAS KING DAVID, and He did not have to come back as he had balanced almost all his karma as David, but He CHOSE TO…this is a crucial point, when a heavenly being decides to come down to earth for a mission they are taking a great chance, because they could get stuck here if they use their free will incorrectly, after all the Devil did tempt Jesus.)

            Also, check out John Chapter 9: The people asked Jesus, “who sinned that this man was born blind him or his parents?” How can one sin if they’ve never been born before ? This shows the people had an understanding of reembodiment.

            As far as INNER MEANING, the Masters have given us many for many words & names for example:

            SEX= “SACRED ENERGY EXCHANGE”
            IMMIGRATION= “I AM GRATEFUL FOR THIS NATION”
            DEVIL= “DEIFIED EVIL”
            GOVERNMENT= “GOD OVER MEN”
            MARY= “MA RAY”
            THRONE= “THREE IN ONE” (FATHER, SON, HOLY GHOST”

          • http://katrael.wordpress.com Katrael

            OOOOPPert EEEEpert, I find the things you offer to be thought provoking and I appreciate and enjoy that. Now, just because people believe in something, like re-embodiment, doesn’t mean that it happens. there were a lot of people that thought it was a good thing to sacrifice nine month old babies and then dip eggs in their blood to the goddess of Easter or render the fat of their children to fashion candles out of it to the god Molech but neither of these belief systems sounds good to me. Having said that there are certain things that you have to wonder about? First is the time that King Saul went to the medium of Endor and had her call up the spirit of Samuel. This is hard to explain. The account says it was Samuel that was called up and Samuel told Saul what was going to happen to him. Here it is if you wish to read it:

            The Scriptures: 1Sa 28:7 Sha’ul then said to his servants, “Find me a woman who is a medium, to go to her and inquire of her.” And his servants said to him, “Look, there is a woman who is a medium at Ěn Dor.”
            1Sa 28:11 And the woman said, “Whom do I bring up for you?” So he said, “Bring up Shemu’ĕl for me.” (note: using Shemu’el’s name was how the medium directed the energy to call up Shemu’el and this is important to remember for later.)
            1Sa 28:13 And the sovereign said to her, “Do not be afraid. What did you see?” And the woman said to Sha’ul, “I saw a spirit coming up out of the earth.”
            1Sa 28:14 And he said to her, “What is his form?” And she said, “An old man is coming up, and he is covered with a mantle.” And Sha’ul knew that it was Shemu’ĕl, and he bowed with his face to the ground and did obeisance.
            1Sa 28:15 And Shemu’ĕl said to Sha’ul, “Why have you disturbed me by bringing me up?” And Sha’ul answered, “I am deeply distressed, for the Philistines are fighting against me, and Elohim has turned aside from me and does not answer me any more, neither by prophets nor by dreams. So I have called you, to reveal to me what I should do.”
            1Sa 28:16 Then Shemu’ĕl said, “And why do you ask me, seeing יהוה has turned aside from you and has become your enemy?
            1Sa 28:17 “And יהוה has done for Himself as He spoke by me. For יהוה has torn the reign out of your hand and given it to your neighbour, to Dawiḏ.
            1Sa 28:18 “Because you did not obey the voice of יהוה nor execute His burning wrath upon Amalĕq, therefore יהוה has done this matter to you today.
            1Sa 28:19 “Further, יהוה also gives Yisra’ĕl with you into the hand of the Philistines. And tomorrow you and your sons are with me. יהוה also gives the army of Yisra’ĕl into the hand of the Philistines.”

            There is this notion in the Scriptures about sleeping with our fathers. The word שׁכב shaw-kab’ is translated as “slept” but could just mean to lie down. However this story indicates other possibilities? I don’t pretend to know it all and clearly there is a warning from YHWH about consulting with mediums sorcerers and such, but there obviously is some truth to the notion that some are “asleep” when they die. Well, we know that this is true as there could be no way to “resurrect” people if being dead was the absolute end of it. We know that energy can’t be created or destroyed but that it’s patterns can be created and destroyed. Sleeping with our fathers obviously preserves those patterns for resurrection. Those patterns are preserved in the book of life. I pondered this and decided that it was like a digital code in a computer. You can erase a code completely or merely deleted it’s beginning and ending attributes and it is no longer readable. By erasing your code from the Book of Life destroys your unique pattern so that you can never be resurrected again. I guess that I believe in re- embodiment but perhaps not quite the same way as others.

            Talking about patterns reminded me of something I wanted to bring up about language. There are distinct patterns to each individual’s voices and there are distinct patterns to each letter or sound in each language. so when I say something it has an absolutely distinct and unique sound and pattern and it also has more or less energy than someone else’s voice. Some languages are more powerful than others. The Hebrews called their language the “lanshone qodesh” or the set apart tongue. Not only does each letter have a distinct sound or sounds but they also represent numbers like the first letter called Aleph in Hebrew carries the number one. This is true for Greek also. It was a form of Hebrew that YHWH spoke. We can’t speak it purely now as some of the sounds of the letters have been lost to us but one day we will be able to speak it again as it was prophesied .to be restored to us.

            The Scriptures: Zep 3:9 “For then I shall turn unto the peoples a clean lip1, so that they all call on the Name of יהוה, to serve Him with one shoulder. Footnote: 1Or language.
            KJV: Zep 3:9 For then will I turn to the people a pure language, that they may all call upon the name of the LORD, to serve him with one consent.

            Another thing: calling on the name of the lord is different than calling on I am that I am or YHWH. The sounds are different and thus have different energies. Our enemy doesn’t want us using our creator’s name because of the power it can produce so he has done everything he can to distract us to get us to stop using that name. Also a name is like a directory so that it can send the energy to the correct place or draw energy from the correct place. Using a different name could send energy to the wrong place or pull energy from the wrong source. Clearly our creator wants us to use his proper name and went to great lengths to preserve it. It is written over 6900 times in the Scriptures. It had to be meticulously altered by hand each time it was done to create the bible. That’s a lot of work. YHWH’s name when coupled with other appropriate sounds and intentions create awesome energies.

            Hos 2:16 “And it shall be, in that day,” declares יהוה, “that you call Me ‘My Husband,’ and no longer call Me ‘My Baʽal.’
            Hos 2:17 “And I shall remove the names of the Baʽals from her mouth, and they shall no more be remembered by their name.

            Also the name of the Beast in Revelations has been revealed and most people would be horrified to know what it is. I wasn’t horrified as I was prepared for it but I was amazed. Mankind is unsuspecting and even most of the elect or chosen ones don’t know it and that it’s possible for even them to be deceived by this name.

            The Scriptures: Mat 24:24 “For false messiahs and false prophets shall arise, and they shall show great signs and wonders, so as to lead astray, if possible, even the chosen ones.
            Hebrew Roots: Mat 24:24 For false Messiahs and false prophets will rise up. And they will give great signs and wonders, so as to lead astray, if possible, even the chosen.
            Mat 24:25 Behold, I tell you beforehand.

            Enough of me for now. Be well and prosper

          • http://katrael.wordpress.com Katrael

            OOOOPPert EEEEpert, I have not studied kabbalah but have picked up bits and pieces over the years. Many evil things happened at the council of Nicea. I can understand how the creation event was orgasmic as our limited form of it is. Yes, the enemy did get himself trapped here by making a bad choice. I have read somewhere that some people consider this planet to be a prison of sorts? I believe in reincarnation but not as some do. Was Yahoshua King David? If you have information about this I’d like to see it. I believe that in a limited way Yahoshua carried parts of David’s patterns but not a complete set. After all, he would have to have some of David’s DNA.

            I like your point about the did he sin or his parents sin. Can’t sin if you’ve never been alive and Yahoshua didn’t deny this but that’s not necessarily proof that Yahoshua supported this line of thinking either. He would have to be aware of this belief but often chose to leave people in their ignorance although he treated his taught ones differently:

            The Scriptures: Luk 8:9 And His taught ones were asking Him, saying, “What does this parable mean?”
            Luk 8:10 And He said, “To you it has been given to know the secrets of the reign of Elohim, but to the rest in parables, that ‘Seeing they do not see, and hearing they do not understand.’

            There is a lot of power in words.

          • OOOOPPert EEEEpert

            In the writings of the Essenes, they talk about reincarnation all the time..Saint Francis talked about in the public square all the time…DNA has nothing to do with it, you don;t carry your DNA with you, but you do carry your psychology & all your karma….Man has 4 lower bodies & 3 higher bodies , thus makes the magic of the number 7.The 4 lower ones are in order of increasing density; etheric (or memory body), mental, emotional & physical. The 3 higher bodies are the I AM Presence (Father, which includes Mother), the Holy Christ Self (mediator between human & divine selves, The Son) & the Holt Spirit.

            All actions from previous lives are recorded in Akasha, in records we carry with us from lifetime to lifetime…the records are stored in the etheric body (soul memories), but effect the other 3 lower bodies.

          • The Buse

            I’m telling you that both of you are just nuts! You need to get a life and quit posting all this bs!

          • OOOOPPert EEEEpert

            If it bothers you don’t read it…there’s none so close-minded as a close-minded Christian!!!

          • http://katrael.wordpress.com Katrael

            OOOOPPert EEEEpert, you said a lot here. Perhaps The Buse is worried that he or she might learn something? His inbox is probably flooded with our stuff which probably upsets him? Personally, I get a kick out of reading others posts even if I’m not going to respond to them. He can see who these posts are in response to and can delete them if he wants. Oh well, I hope he’ll be well and prosper.

          • OOOOPPert EEEEpert

            I left my e-mail on your blog….why not contact me there from now on?

          • http://katrael.wordpress.com Katrael

            The Buse, thank you. I could use some nuts about now. BTW, you have free will and you don’t have to read this stuff if you don’t want. I like it. Be well and prosper.

          • http://katrael.wordpress.com Katrael

            OOOOPPert EEEEpert, you do carry your DNA with you. It’s matter made up of energy patterns. These energy patterns are replicated in both the material and energy realms because after all the material realm is nothing but energy. Yes, I agree, all of our experiences are carried within us.

          • OOOOPPert EEEEpert

            Harry Truman who got on radio & said He recognized Israel as a nation in 1947, asked a pertinent question a couple of days before to his cabinet, ‘If the nation will be made up of Jews, why do they not call themselves, Judah?”

            That has been my whole premise throughout these replies….If these pols who love to think they are doing God’s Will by protecting the nation in Middle East & all those who think they are getting the scriptures right, saying we must at all costs go in there & save that nation, of them I ask to imagine, if you would have that same feeling if it was called , “JUDAH” ???

            Methinks, they would not.

            Because that nation really is Judah!!!

          • http://katrael.wordpress.com Katrael

            OOOOPPert EEEEpert, you are also correct about the modern nation called Israel. They are made up of mostly Judah with parts of Levi and Benjamin mixed in so in effect they are “Judah” however, they are also part of Yisrael so I guess that they can call themselves Israel if they want. There is prophecy yet to be fulfilled as the rest of the tribes need to return to a much larger piece of land than the current Israel occupies.

            You probably are also correct about whether this nation would support “Judah” like they do Israel. The real thing is this:

            The Scriptures: Zec 14:2 And I shall gather all the gentiles to battle against Yerushalayim1. And the city shall be taken, the houses plundered, and the women ravished. Half of the city shall go into exile, but the remnant of the people shall not be cut off from the city. Footnote: 1Joel 3:2, Zeph. 3:8, Rev. 16:14.

            It’s not going to matter who wants to defend that nation because they are going to get it anyway. The near future doesn’t look good for “Judah” does it?

          • OOOOPPert EEEEpert

            Remember the ancient nation was split in civil war into NORTH (ISRAEL) & SOUTH (JUDAH), so they were cut off at that point from being Israel….Armstrong goes on to tell that the Jews’ blessing, despite the persecution, was that after being dispersed, they knew who they were…whereas the Israelites who settled Ireland, England, Scotland, Wales & other European nations lost their knowledge of heritage and hence became, “the Lost Sheep of the House of Israel”…a double meaning , lost spiritually & lost knowledge of their ancestors.

          • http://katrael.wordpress.com Katrael

            OOOOPPert EEEEpert, Israel is lost from themselves but not to YHWH. I know you know that but I wanted to say it. And I know about the split that occurred after Solomon’s son took over. That was essential to fulfill prophecy in the latter days.

            The other blessing that the Jews had was that they were keepers of the oracles of YHWH. Even thought they don’t observe things properly they still have the oracles (Tanak) and that’s been preserved for us through them. That’s essential for those who are trying to follow a true path. There are a multitude of things in the Tanak that not even the Jews recognize as they’ve been forced to abandon keeping the oracles themselves.

            Even though the Children of Israel are lost they are still dear to YHWH. The tribe of Ephraim lost their tribal name (look in the roll call of tribes in Revelations and you’ll see that Ephraim and Dan aren’t mentioned. Ephraim’s tribal identity got stipped from them because they planned to commit evil against their brother Judah) but still YHWH loves Ephraim and he knows where all of them are.

            Isa 7:6 “Let us go up against Yehuḏah and tear it apart, and break it open for ourselves, and set a sovereign over them, the son of Taḇe’ĕl.”
            Isa 7:7 ‘Thus said the Master יהוה, “It is not going to stand, nor shall it take place.
            Isa 7:8 “For the head of Aram is Damascus, and the head of Damascus is Retsin. And within sixty-five years Ephrayim is to be broken as a people.

            Ephraim still exists but not with a tribal identity.

            The Scriptures Hos 11:3 “And I taught Ephrayim to walk, taking them by their arms, but they did not know that I healed them.
            Hos 11:4 “I drew them with ropes of man, with cords of love, and I was to them as those who take the yoke from their neck. And I bent down, fed them.
            Hos 11:5 “No, let him return to the land of Mitsrayim, and let Ashshur be his sovereign, because they refused to repent!
            Hos 11:6 “And the sword shall whirl in his cities, and it shall demolish his gate bars, and consume, because of their own counsels.
            Hos 11:7 “My people are bent towards backsliding from Me. Though they call to the Most High, He lifts none of them up.
            Hos 11:8 “How could I give you up, Ephrayim? How could I hand you over, Yisra’ĕl? How could I make you like Aḏmah? How could I set you like Tseḇoyim? My heart turns within Me, all My compassion is kindled.
            Hos 11:9 “I shall not let the heat of My wrath burn, I shall not turn to destroy Ephrayim. For I am Ěl, and not man, the Set-apart One in your midst, and I shall not come in enmity.
            Hos 11:10 “Let them follow יהוה. Like a lion He roars. When He roars, then sons shall tremble from the west.
            Hos 11:11 “They shall tremble like a bird from Mitsrayim, and like a dove from the land of Ashshur. And I shall let them dwell in their own houses,” declares יהוה.

            It’s fascinating how YHWH orders the paths of nations.

          • OOOOPPert EEEEpert

            Thank you for this…you certainly are well versed in these texts. all of God’s children are dear to His heart & His Mercy & Forgiveness is virtually infinite!!!

          • http://katrael.wordpress.com Katrael

            OOOOPPert EEEEpert, It’s a good thing that his generosity and kindness are infinite because we need it. There is one thing about YHWH: he gives us what we need and sometimes it’s not what we think it should be but it is always correct. Be well and prosper.

          • OOOOPPert EEEEpert

            The heart prays for what one desires, but God give the soul what it needs!

          • http://katrael.wordpress.com Katrael

            OOOOPPert EEEEpert, perhaps we’re both on the right track? I used to be a member of the World Wide Church of God. My father introduced me to them when I was a kid living at home. My Dad quickly turned from the teachings of that church in favor of a more main stream faith. It wasn’t until years later that my wife reintroduced me to the teachings of World Wide and she quickly turned back to a more main stream Christianity and I went on to embrace many of those teachings from World Wide but what would you expect from a Jew? Since then I’ve been on a journey to uncover the truth about Christianity and Judaism and what I’ve found indicates that both belief systems are mired down in paganism. The Scriptures on the other hand hold up beautifully against all assaults to discredit them. Too much has happened in this tired world that supports what is written in them. Be well and prosper.

          • OOOOPPert EEEEpert

            Since you have an open mind, I will tell you I follow a New Age path that has been around actually since the late 1800′s (THEOSOPHY was the start), called, “THE TEACHINGS OF THE ASCENDED MASTERS”…we believe that there are profound truths in all the major religions, but the dark forces, the Fallen Angels have also corrupted many things in them &, deleted many crucial things too, to keep us divided & keep us from spiritual truth & the true nature of God & Heaven & cosmos, etc..I’m been searching my whole life for these truths & Judaism , Christianity never quote answered my questions, but these teachings have…we do not call this a religion, but a path to Spirituality…as you can see by many of these replies people get hung up on details, rituals, minutiae that just divide us….there are many paths that can lead back to the Heart of God

            google: ‘THE SUMMIT LIGHTHOUSE”
            ” SAINT GERMAIN SPONSOR OF AMERICA”
            “I AM MOVEMENT”
            MARK & ELIZABETH PROPHET
            “THEOSOPHY”.

    • eddie47d

      I really enjoyed Crystals last paragraph and he hit the nail on the noggin’. We have willingly and unwillingly been jerked into every conflict in the Middle East . That area is pure dynamite so we must enjoy the continual carnage that is predictable. Like a prize fighter who wants to win one last fight no matter how badly he has been bruised in all the other fights. Some will admire that fighter and some will think he is a crazy man who lost all his brain cells.

      • Oneguess

        Thank you for the enlightenment. Surely we are all beneficiaries of your wisdom.

      • http://none Charlie

        eddie47d,,,get together with DaveH and I’ll bet two OK heathens can tell us eggheadexactly ,what’s going to happen to the State of Israel … OH!? you mean to tell Me you are a little short
        on Bible info ,,,well check out the one page book called Obadiah , it in between Amos and Jonah
        it tells what’s going to happen to the state of Israel ,,,when? soon… Mean while…
        Praise King Jesus for Salvation and Healing …. Acts 2:38 is salvation…

    • Norm

      Rogueries, absurdities and untruths were perpetrated upon the teachings of Jesus by a large band of dupes and importers led by Paul, the first great corrupter of the teaching of Jesus.”
      “The clergy converted the simple teachings of Jesus into an engine for enslaving mankind and adulterated by artificial constructions into a contrivance to filch wealth and power to themselves…these clergy, in fact, constitute the real Anti-Christ.”
      “I do not find in orthodox Christianity one redeeming feature.”
      SOURCE: Thomas Jefferson, U.S. President, author, scientist, architect, educator, and diplomat

      • OOOOPPert EEEEpert

        These clergy are the Fallen Ones, the Illuminati, the watchers, the Bilderbergers, etc..etc…they have been around for over 100,000 years!!!

      • Roy Peterson

        Norm, please enlighten us as to the source, book and page for this very unlikely quote from Jefferson.

      • Karolyn

        Roy – You must not have read much Jefferson. He was a man who believed in the teachings of jesus but not of Jesus as Lord; and he did not think much of religion. Try googling the Jefferson Bible.

      • sam1966

        You mean this one Karolyn?

        http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/jan/17/thomas-jefferson-revolutionary-bible-reissued

        Wrong, wrong, wrong Norm. If this were true, both you and Karolyn, then why in September 1800, both he and Trumble (sp), turned the dome of the Capital Building into a church and it ran for almost a decade? FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

        You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot.

    • rejoice

      yep revelations said in the end Isreal will stand alone. Isreal is Gods chosen and he said he will destroy those who try to take away land from isreal in the name of peace

      • http://none Charlie

        rejoice,,,the Bible says the Children of (Jacob) Israel , NOT, just the Jews, are God’s chosen people ,,,King Jesus points His people out at Matthew 10:6 and Matthew 15:24…
        The chosen people , the children of Israel , are named at many places in the Old Testament…
        There are three different Bible definitions for the word “Jew”, so use the right definition , the word
        Jew came from the tribe of Judah,,,Judah was the 4th son of Leah ,,,,Jacob Israel’s first wife was Leah,,, King Jesus Christ was born into the tribe of Judah… Mean while …
        Praise King Jesus for Salvation and Healing … Acts 2:38 is salvation…

    • Joe Hammond

      According to the CIA Israel has between 300-400 nuclear weapons and the ability to land them on any target in the Middle East. So why would we sacrifice lives and treasure for them when they are quite capable of defending themselves?

      • HEBREW HARRY

        You make a good point, the only problem for Israel is that it is so small that just 1 or 2 bombs can blow it off the map & they will never get the opportunity to retaliate…

        Doe anyone trust Iran to be like USSR & engage in cold war, and not use nuclear weapons?

      • Mike in MI

        Hebrew Harry -
        While it is quite possible that nukes could fly at various places in the world it is impossible that all Israel will roast under a nuclear oven. Such a conflagration would render the land sterile, unproductive and unliveable. God never indicates anywhere that Christ Jesus is going to return to rule over a bunch of crispy critters.
        God’s promises to His Messiah-son include an earthly reign in the land Israel over the people Israel where God’s Messiah carries out three functions: prophet, high priest and King/judge.
        He will also exercise authority over the nations of the world either conductingtrade or exacting tribute because The Revelation of John says that the nations will bring their veggies and trade goods to The City (but won’t enter in if they are unholy or profane).
        It’s probably kind of hard for us to imagine what that future time will be like since the population base will have been devastated by Anti-christ’s (Occident) and the Caliphate’s Imam (Orientals – children of Mt. Seir) evil reigns to fulfill the Devil’s desires.
        Some way the children of Hagar must be removed (or destroy themselves) to eliminate any ongoing challenge to Sarah’s child’s (Isaac’s) inheritance…ever again.
        Rest assured, Israel CAN NOT fry under a mushroom cloud.

        • HEBREW HARRY

          BULL CRAP to all you say

        • Tim

          It’s not going to be Israel that will be fried, but it wil be Egyept. Look it up in the bible. Do your homework, it’s not that hard to find.

      • Mike in MI

        Joe Hammond -
        The U.S. of A. is about due to go over a financial cliff and lose all standing in the world as a strong nation. Wars take $$$$$$$$$$ to wage. We will have to borrow to do a war. Who will lend to someone whose currency and promises and power are worthless?
        Thanks to BO-plenty, we aren’t even a paper tiger now. We are a toothless, de-clawwed, mangey kitten with worms that are eating it up from the inside.
        War??? We could hardly enter an immies tournament.

    • http://katrael.wordpress.com Katrael

      This is to moombeam. Do you know how ridiculous your assertion is that: ” Jesus absolutely abolished the whole law by fulfilling it with His death on the cross.”? Show us where YHWH(god/the lord or jesus) ever said such? The only way you can come up with this ridiculous idea is to quote Paul. Who is Paul? He’s not YHWH or Yahoshua and has no authority to abolish anything. He’s the Anti-christ if he tries to abolish any part of YHWH’s (god’s) laws. Your understanding of Shaul (Paul’s) writings is in error. The law that Shaul was referring to is the Maasim and the Takanot (Traditions of the elders) that were impossible to keep. Those traditions were nullified and actually were never required by anyone to follow except the Jews who accepted Rabbinic authority.

      YHWH’s laws are not impossible to keep especially with the help of the Ruach HaQodesh (holy spirit).

  • Tazio2013

    More reasons for US to sever all ties with the Israeli Fascist regime:

    Netanyahu ‘Determined to Attack Iran’ Before US Elections

    By Times of Israel
    The report added that Netanyahu and Defense Minister Ehud Barak believe Obama would have no choice but to give backing for an Israeli attack before the US presidential elections in November.

    http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article32244.htm

    “World events do not occur by accident. They are made to happen, whether it is to do with national issues or commerce; and most of them are staged and managed by those [judeo-christian rothschild zionists] who hold the purse strings.” Denis Winston Healey, Baron Healey CH, MBE, PC, British Labour politician.

    • factnotrhetoric

      Israel has caused wars in the middle east, for as long as I’ve been able to read, with false flag after false flag.
      This is because Israel is the number one arms producer to the Islamists.
      Now it’s time for Israel to pay the piper.
      They’ve made their own bed, now they need to lay in it.
      America and the world will now fight to stop a war Israel created out of greed.
      Israel armed these criminals and somehow expect the world to bail them out when their own weapons are turned against them. NO WAY ONE SINGLE AMERICAN LIFE SHOULD BE LOST FOR WHAT ISRAEL CREATED WITH ILLEGAL ARMS SALES.

      • Nadzieja Batki

        You could not possibly have come up with this nutty post all by yourself so which anti Israel group do you belong to?

      • http://speedle speedle

        factnotrhetoric is exactly what his name implies he is not. IMO he is probably a 15 year old shut in inside some New York (or Chicago) ghetto who likes to see his BS in writing on a blog. After seeing his nonsensical postings that are designed to “shock” normal people I am pretty sure I am right. So the best thing to do is just ignore.

      • sam1966

        Care to cite a source to try to back up that lie “F”? FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

        You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot.

    • liz said

      you are absolutely right…but the american people will not wake up till its too late..too much propaganda in main stream media…god help america

    • Oneguess

      Anti-semitic bs at best.

      • http://none Charlie

        Oneguess,,, define that word anti semitic , per The Bible…
        Praise King Jesus for Salvation and Healing … Acts 2:38 is salvation…

      • Joe Hammond

        Since both the Arabs and the Jews come from the same source in the Middle East they are both considered Semites. It would be better to label comments like these anti-Jewish.

        • OOOOPPert EEEEpert

          The word SEMITE comes from Noah’s son SHEM

  • Anthony Stevenson

    So far, Ben, I have been with you but when you say crap like that regarding Israel, you walk on the fighting side of me; what do you roll over or bend over? Israel is the ONLY stabilizing force in the mid-east and they probably could do it without us! What is up with you, are you sampling Barry O’s Koo-laid?

    • Pamela33168

      Well, I don’t believe that they could! Without out our money and military planes, bombs, guns ect.Talk about welfare reform we need to get these guys off our books. They are completely unable to pull this off on their own and that’s why they haven’t done it yet!!!!

      • mollymolly

        you are stupid. read foreign aid and see we give china 20 million, russia 68.7 million and Nigeria 647.7 million, cuba 20 million Egypt1.5 billion, and the capper Pakistan 4.8 billion. those are our enemies and you want to stop helping our only ally there.

      • eddie47d

        That is still too much welfare to be given out. Israel also gets over $4 billion per year.Nothing but protection money to keep all these nations from turning against us. One reason Pakistan gets so much is because of our Afghanistan War. If we don’t pay them off they will unleash a torrent of jihadist mountain fighters on our American troops and permanently close down the supply routes. .

      • Oneguess

        Troll. Post elsewhere, we all see you quite clearly.

      • http://none Charlie

        mollymolly,,,does a ally do things such as USS Liberty destruction ???
        Praise King Jesus for Salvation and Healing… Acts 2:38 is salvation …

    • georrge

      I agree with you Anthony. Yet I agree with Ben that you have to let your brother stand on his own,but this is not the time.

  • gfsomsel

    Perhaps my reaction is in part influenced by the fact that I was an only child (hence, no brother), but I wholeheartedly disagree. Iran’s threat involves not only Israel, but the entire Middle East and perhaps the world. Iran needs to be taken down, and we need to be a part of that process.

  • Anthony Stevenson

    @tazio2013: You are an ass!This is not name-calling on my part-just a statement of fact!

  • bridget

    God is not wishy washy. If you stand against Israel you stand against Him. Everyday we choose who we will serve……..

    • http://boblivingstonpl.wordpress.com Bob Livingston

      Dear bridget,

      You write: “If you stand against Israel you stand against Him.” Please cite for me the book, chapter and verse upon which you base this belief.

      Best wishes,
      Bob

      • OOOOPPert EEEEpert

        The whole misconception here is that modern day Israel is NOT REALLY ISRAEL….It is JUDAH, it is the descendants of the tribe of Judah…..To anyone who knows the truth of scripture, AMERICA IS ISRAEL!!! trust me, if that land in the Middle East was called “JUDAH”, and our pols knew the truth, they would not be so fast in rushing in with precious life & gold to protect it!!!

        See: Herbert W. Armstrong’s classic, “AMERICA & BRITAIN IN PROPHECY” …you can get it for free by calling, the Philadelphia Church of God…1-800-772-8577

        When Moses asked God his name, he said: “I AM THAT I AM”…perpetual life, no beginning, no ending…

        INNER MEANING OF AMERICA= “I AM RACE”…..Children of Ancient Israel Come Home Again!

        • http://boblivingstonpl.wordpress.com Bob Livingston

          Dear OOOOPPert EEEpert,

          You write: “To anyone who knows the truth of scripture, AMERICA IS ISRAEL!!!” I’m sure you can support this with Scripture?

          Best wishes,
          Bob

      • steve

        actually gods name is yeh-weh. translated in english jehovah. yes ya’ll god has a name just like you. were do you think it all started. god is his title.

        • OOOOPPert EEEEpert

          Jehovah is a perversion of YAH HE VAH HE….I AM THAT I AM.

          When Jesus said , “I AM THE WAY”, ‘I AM THE TRUTH”, “I AM THE RESURRECTION”….he was saying , “The GOD in me” is the Way, etc…not Jesus, but the Christ, that is in all of us, because , “WE ARE ALL SONS & DAUGHTERS OF GOD” (PSALM 82.6)

      • steve

        read psalms 83;18. find a bible that’s at least 10 years old . the newer ones have omitted gods name . it was in the bible over 7000 times. why would they not want you to know his name? satan is doing his dirty work on all

      • deerinwater

        Their interpretative understand of bible text and zealotry have corrupted their minds and allow the demons of pride and jealousy to enter. This total lacking of humility creates this awful monster.

        Self-prophecy does work and can effect all matters of this world when time and constant pressure are applied, while where it being seen as good or bad is not actually relevant but left to the observer.

        As I young boy, on a family outing to Corpus to view the Battleship Texas, I found out about the nature of pressure and time. She was huge as I remember her, she was tied off to dock cleats with 2 inch lines fore and aft on her port side with enough slack to accommodate the rise and fall of the tide.

        I got this crazy idea as rumbustious children are so noted for, I wondered if I could move her?

        Placing my back to the mooring cleat and my feet to her hull, I pushed with all of my might. Nothing happened! Not to be discouraged by this, I tried again and again and again. It was then that I found, if I sustained a constant pressure, she would move!

        I ! Me! single-handed moved the Battle Ship Texas!

        And so it is with many things in life, “willing” something into existence is possible if you apply enough pressure and sustain it over time.

        Israel and her peoples are so entwined in American life, media and politics today, they can not feasibly be separated without causing great harm to both. Any notions of good or bad, or right or wrong is a little late to ponder at this point.

        I feel quite certain Israel can stand alone and take care of herself while many would not like it, if and when it takes place.

      • Patsy

        Genesis 12:3, God’s talking to Abram, I will bless those that bless thee and curse those that curse thee.

      • Norm

        “Millions of innocent men, women and children, since the introduction of Christianity, have been burnt, tortured, fined and imprisoned. What has been the effect of this coercion? To make one half the world fools and the other half hypocrites” –Thomas Jefferson, Notes on Virginia, 1782.

        • OOOOPPert EEEEpert

          The Fallen Angels have infiltrated the churchs, the mosques, the synagogues, the buddhist temples, the economies of the nations, the cultures, etc…etc…and mankind through misuse of their Sacred Free Will Energies has handed over his power to them. They have tampered with the bibles, the sacred writings, etc…they have divided us, they have led the Inquisitions, the bloodshed, not the true Sons & Daughters of God!

          Mankind was meant to take dominion over the earth, but has handed his authority to the dark ones…how can you take over the earth, if oiu can’t take dominion over your own lower nature?

          This is the dawning of a New Age…Jesus said, ” I AM with always even unto the end of the age”…his was age of Pisces…we are now in Aquarius, people need to raise their consciousness & not buy into the lies of the Fallen ones!!

      • deerinwater

        Patsy says:

        “Genesis 12:3, God’s talking to Abram, I will bless those that bless thee and curse those that curse thee.”

        Wasn’t that the same guy that couldn’t control his woman, much less “women” ?

        And who was it that boar witness and documented all these “Godly instructions” ? Abraham ?

        If I had been Abraham, I think that I’d be sings the same tune.

        This willingness to swallow a Jewish camel while gagging on a Hebrew Nat never ceases to amaze me.

        Well, is believing in anything better then believing in nothing? Yes! but only to a point!

      • Nadzieja Batki

        OoooP, I wondered how long it would take you to admit that you follow the teachings of Herbert Armstrong if it is only the fact that you have read his book/books on replacement theology. if America is as Armstrong believed then America should not be having any social, economic problems since America would claim all of Israels blessings but not any of the curses.

        • OOOOPPert EEEEpert

          i do not follow the teachings of Armstrong at all, I do believe he was right on in this book…If you read this book, you will see there are many negative prophecies in store for America, if we do not change our Godless ways, both our leaders & citizens…remember, too…prophecies are NEVER set in stone, mankind has free will & can become enlightened to avert disasters!!

          I follow, “THE TEACHINGS OF THE ASCENDED MASTERS”

          google: The Summit Lighthouse
          Saint Germain
          Mark and Elizabeth Prophet

      • oh oh

        Not if Armstrong confused Biblical Israel with the Jews, which he did.

        • OOOOPPert EEEEpert

          Armstrong did nothing of the sort you say here!!!

          It’s very simple, the ancient prophecies for Israel were never fulfilled for the ancient land or the modern nation….only America & Britain have fulfilled them!

      • sam1966

        “I will bless those that bless you and I will curse those that curse you.” Is this one OK Bob?

        FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

        You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot.

        • http://boblivingstonpl.wordpress.com Bob Livingston

          Dear sam1966,

          You write: ““I will bless those that bless you and I will curse those that curse you.” Is this one OK Bob?” That promise was to Abram (Abraham). Has nothing to do with Israel. Please try again.

          Best wishes,
          Bob

          • sam1966

            Thanks Bob. I’ll have to try again. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

            You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot.

    • http://corkey.wordpress.com/ corkey

      We do not have an obligation towards Israel. It doesn’t say that in the Bible…..anywhere. Thats a false interpretation that has only been around since the early 20th century originally promoted by Nelson Darby. Before him, the idea of Dispensationalism never existed.

      • Nadzieja Batki

        Israel already knows that America cannot be trusted. It is a fickle nation. It destroys Friends and builds up the enemies.
        From reading the comments from the some of the posters you can follow that your wives,your children, your friends don’t mean much to you and they cannot depend on you because you are variable.

      • http://none Charlie

        corkey,,, you have a point ,,,BUT,,, most do not know The Founding Fathers Lineage ,,,it’s in the Bible ,,,
        it’s Abraham , Isaac and Jacob Israel ,,,BUT,,, remember Jacob had a older twin brother named Esau ,,,Bingo!,,,that is the key to this whole name game that has been going since 1948
        and before … Almost all the people in the state of Israel are from the lineage of Esau , see Genesis 25:25 and Esau is written about from Genesis 25 to Hebrew 12:16… See Genesis 25:30, that tells of Esau’s other name Edom , so,,, most of these people that call themselves Jews or Israelites , are, Edomites ,,, so ,,, in the state of Israel one will NOT see much Love for King Jesus and / or True Christians under Acts 2:38 ,,,EXCEPT FOR SHOW … See the book
        of Obadiah and the book of Malachi to see what God and His Prophets have to say about Esau Edom … God “Cursed” Esau and his Lineage FOREVER, Malachi 1:3–5,,,but ,,,even The Children of Israel (Jacob) have some curses on them , but, not forever ,only to Acts 2:38…
        Praise King Jesus for Salvation and Healing … Acts 2:38 is salvation …

    • mollymolly

      bridget, there is no use in trying to convert an aethist

  • SM ISAC

    It’s NOT a family affair. It is false and dangerous to put Judaism, Christianity, and Islam in one family as “Abrahamic” faith. In fact this very term “Abrahamic” faith is often used by Islamists to con Jews and Christians and the rest of the world to make them believe they all worship the same God, share the Old Testament, the New Testament as well as the Qu’ran.

    The harsh reality is Islam is a death cult of the great deceiver whose purpose is to extinguish “the light unto the nations.”

    • Chester

      Islam, like Judaism, accepts the old testament, and not the new. According to Islam, Christ is but another prophet, albeit a major rather than minor prophet. Still, a prophet can not fulfill anything, thus Islam is bound by the OLD testament AND Mohammed’s rather feverish dreamstate. I do hate to have to admit it, but the Christian church has an apostle who was nearly as bad off as Mohammed that they keep referring to when they speak of Armmegeddon.

      • common sense

        I thought Islam taught that Ishmael was the fulfillment of God’s promise to Abraham, rather than Isaac. If they believe that, then how can they accept the Old Testament?

        • OOOOPPert EEEEpert

          Who knows what these Meshugganahs believe?

    • oh oh

      The other harsh reality is that Christ condemned Talmudism and its authors…the Adversary and his children, who eventually orchestrated His crucifixion. Christ explained that it was through Issac that the children of the Promise would descend, not Abraham. In this manner, He distinguished His sheep from the interlopers who claimed entitlement due to their alleged descent from Abraham. We still make the same mistake when we wrap our arms around the modern State of Israel, ignorantly thinking that we’re heeding the admonishment of Genesis 12:3, ironically cursing ourselves by embracing the bad figs He scattered as a curse to the nations…the people against whom He hath indignation forever.

      • OOOOPPert EEEEpert

        The INNER MEANING OF SAXON: “ISSAC’S SONS”……..get Armstrong’s book!!!!

        1-800-772-8577

    • Oneguess

      AMEN! Allah, the ilha of death and destruction.

  • JimRed

    Diving in front of bullets? That would be a first! We never have, and never will under this administration. The guys curently in charge would more likely defend their jihadist buddies than Israel! The israelis, God Bless them, are more than capable of reducing the entire Muslim world to a glassed-over ruin without our help.

    Pray for those mired in the deceit of Islam, that they may see the light.

    • Pamela33168

      That is a joke, without us Israel is nothing. Tell me what they have militarily that we haven’t given to them? You know that every Israel is required to do time in the Military including the women.,

      • Nadzieja Batki

        We have not given Israel anything that was not paid for and that we could not spare. If we were lacking we would not deprive ourselves and give things away to our own detriment.
        Is that what you saw from your parents that they gave things away even when they themselves and their children were in need?

      • oh oh

        By posing as the Chosen People and ginning up collective guilt through the Holocaust and other big-buck industries, these anti-Christ Edomite-Canaanite-Kenite descendants have worked us over pretty well. As long as Judeo-Christianity remains ignorant of their own identity and continue to buy Jewish fables, the political State of Israel will continue to its way with us.

    • jopa

      JimRed; Your comment is about the dumbest thing I have ever read here on these pages.We are currently in Afghanistan, Iraq and every other war, skirmish, act of humanity, police action or whatever you wish to call it because of Israel and their misbehavior.911 was because of Israel, due to our belief we had to occupy Saudi Arabia for Israels protection.Then you go on to claim that they can go on by themselves and make a glassed over ruin of the region.I don’t know how to tell you this but those weapons of mass destruction they possess are from the United States bought with welfare checks sent to the Israeli’s by our US government.If Romney gets in he said he would back Israel in whatever they plan or want to do and back them up.Now that is getting a little scary in knowing Israel is now a Super Power in a sense.

      • Joe Hammond

        Actually, the Negev Nuclear Research Center nuclear plant in the Negev desert south of Dimona is the place where Israel makes nuclear weapons. It has many underground levels and has never been examined by the AEC because Israel is not a signatore of the Non-Proliferation Treaty. Mordecai Vanunu was a nuclear technician who worked there and opposed nuclear proliferation. He went public with the information to the British Press in 1986. He was kidnapped from Italy by the Mossad, tried behind close door and sentenced to 18 years in prison of which 11 were in solitary confinement. He has been released but is restricted in speech and movement. He has been arrested a number of times for talking to foreign press corps and attempting to leave Israel. He claims barbaric treatment at the hand of Israel authorities and is a convert from Christianity. Amnesty International issued a press release on 2 July 2007, stating that “The organisation considers Mordechai Vanunu to be a prisoner of conscience and calls for his immediate and unconditional release.

        he technology may have been given to Israel but not the bombs. Those are home made….By not acknowledging possession of nuclear weapons, Israel avoids a US legal prohibition on funding countries which proliferate weapons of mass destruction. Such an admission would prevent Israel from receiving over $3 billion each year in military and other aid from Washington..

    • Gordon

      The USA’s present president has stated that when things get tough, he will support the muslims. Look it up, its on video.

    • Oneguess

      Yes. Shalom.

  • bridget

    In my opinion, Ben Crystal is not the kind of conservative that I can follow. When they hear the threats that “Israel” is a cancer and it and all Jews need to be destroyed is an ultimate betrayal of God’s plan. These threats are REAL and ISRAEL needs to act before the are wiped off the face of the earth. America needs to WAKE UP. God is judging those that turn their faces against Him and Israel!

    • http://corkey.wordpress.com/ corkey

      God is judging everyone who sins, which is everyone. We are not obligated to defend Israel….there is nothing in the Bible to this extent, only false interpretations that have been around since the 1800s. Before then, it was never an issue. God is not holding a gun to the head of America, He desires mercy, compassion and justice from all men.

      • Nadzieja Batki

        So why are you not merciful, compassionate, and just toward Israel but to her Enemies?

      • oh oh

        Maybe because they’re not who they say they are and maybe because they’re anti-Christ?

      • Nadzieja Batki

        oh oh, you have dug yourself into a hole so shouldn’t you stop digging in deeper.

    • steve

      what bible and history books do you read. god put the israelites out in the desert for 70 years for a reason. they screwed up . then when they came back they rebuilt the temple in jerusalem . when they killed his son , jesus, that is when god disowned the jews. they were now an outcast to him. they are not the chosen people that you think they are. read the accounts in the new testament. the facts are there.

      • Chester

        Steve, better look a little harder, as it was not ALL the Jews who killed Jesus. Instead it was the Pharisees and their kin who feared for their livelihoods if He was half what was claimed for Him. If any Jews have been disowned, it would be that same tribe and group, rather than the people as a whole.

      • steve

        chester read math 23; 37-38 jerusalem jerusalem the killer of the prophets and stoner of those sent forth to her, how often i wanted to gather your children together, the way a hen gathers her chicks together under her wings. but you people did not want it. look your house is abandoned to you .

      • Nadzieja Batki

        A house that is abandoned is not necessarily torn down and the land scraped. So original owners can still lay claim to it and fix it.

      • oh oh

        Judeo-Christianity does not distinguish Israelites, the children of the Promise, from the Jews, who were a different people, primarily descended from Edomites, Canaanites and Kenites. The Roman political designation “Judea” has been problematic for Judeo-Christians. Christ, who came only to the Lost Sheep of the House of Israel sought out true Israelites, primarily the descendants of Judah and Benjamin who had returned from the Babylonian captivity. Christ did not turn away from His people, He sought them out and then relied on His apostles to reach out to the other tribes from the Assyrian and Babylonian captivities and other dispersions (the Twelve Tribes mentioned by James and the descendants of Issac mentioned by Peter and Paul) who were settled throughout the Greco-Roman world. Christ remarried Israel when He was sacrificed, after which they were called by His name, “Christians.”

        He also warned us about, and condemned His enemies, the children of the Adversary who now pose as His chosen people, deceiving, confounding and taking advantage of virtually all of Judeo-Christianity. Because Judeo-Christianity does not understand this, they fill in an apparent void with the real replacement theology, the non-Biblical “spiritual Israel” doctrine, and overreach in their theorizing by opening the door to other heresies like dispensationalism, anti-nomianism and universalism. None of these doctrines were taught by the prophets, Christ or the apostles, but were introduced as a new religion by people like Darby, Scofield and Bullinger, whose errant doctrines became the foundation of Moody Bible Institute, Dallas Theological and almost all Christian seminaries. After 1900 years, Christianity had morphed into a new religion, a heresy called by the oxymoronic name, “Judeo-Christianity.” It was the best religion the Jewish money behind Scofield and Bullinger could buy and it finally accomplished one of the Adversary’s purposes by making Christians ignorant and making America safe for Judaism, the religion that was condemned by Christ. The anti-Christs haven’t stopped destroying Western Christian culture in America ever since.

      • Oneguess

        It was the Romans & the political/religious elite, NOT the majority of the Jewish Nation. For some reason Obamao comes to mind…

      • http://none Charlie

        steve,,, BUT!,,,Acts 2:38 gave the salvation of King Jesus Christ to ALL , that includes the Tribe of Judah and all the other tribes of The Children of Israel (Jacob)… So,,,,
        Praise King Jesus for Salvation and Healing …

    • steve

      this is why everyone needs to look up info for themselves. many are misguided by some religions and their teachings. ex; thou shall not kill. very simple to understand right. so how did abortion become legal. not by god but by man. following the right path isn’t easy. do your home work and stop listing to others who only make statement and show no proof. that’s what politicians do.

      • Gordon

        In fact kill translates, Don’t do civil murder.

    • Suzanne

      I wholeheartedly agree!

    • http://none Charlie

      bridget,,,check out 1 Timothy 2:12 ,,, then …
      Praise King Jesus for Salvation and Healing … Acts 2:38 is salvation…

  • Warrior

    If I were mittens, my first act would be to send a “very special” envoy, consisting of none other than prez peace prize and his sidekick “plugs” along with the billary, and tell them they will stay in the middle east until ALL disputes are resolved. If that doesn’t work, in let’s say 24 hours, I would immediately send reinforcements of pelosi, reid, schumer, nadler, schakowski, weiner (what ever happened to that guy?) and every “red” blooded progressive, until they all beg for permanent peace.

    There, problem fixed!

    • Chester

      Warrior, you start off with that bunch and you will be on the very next bus going that direction. Might be a bit of a rough trip, seeing as buses don’t float all that well, but for sure you would be on it.

    • Oneguess

      Oy! Very good. Khol ha’kvod!

  • http://www.facebook.com/duane.bass.5 Duane Bass

    G-d has given them the land, and protects them while they are in it. If G-d is for you, who would be foolish enough to fight against them?
    They are G-d chosen people, so they really do not need any help. I say that with G-d as my witness.
    He will take care of them. We need to take care of ourselves. . .

    • http://boblivingstonpl.wordpress.com Bob Livingston

      Dear Duane Bass,

      You write: “hey are G-d (sic) chosen people, so they really do not need any help.” Please cite for me book, chapter and verse showing today’s Israel is God’s chosen.

      Best wishes,
      Bob

    • steve

      read your bible bubba. they lost that honor after they kill jesus

      • Gordon

        The crucifixion of Jesus allowed the fullfillment of OT prophecy.

        • OOOOPPert EEEEpert

          You say the Jews killed Jesus…but many Jews believed in Him, too & St. Paul was a Jew…the Fallen Ones killed Jesus, because he was a threat to their power…all those who ran the Temple were not real Jews, they were the same SOBs that poisoned the Catholic Church….but, yet there are so many wonderful Catholics, followers , nuns, priests full of LIGHT…don’t buy the poison of division & hate

      • http://none Charlie

        steve,,, ok here it is again ,,, Acts 2:38 brought the “honor” back… OOOOOOOpert,,, Paul was a
        blood line Benjamite , a born Roman and a Jew by Land location,,,the zeros in your name ,is that
        your Bible reading score? DONT JUST READ THE BIBLE,,, study it !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
        Also did you ever hear of DUAL citizenship??? Well?….
        Praise King Jesus for Salvation and Healing …

        • OOOOPPPert EEEPert

          The Jews consisted of The tribe of Judah, half the tribe of Benjamin & the Levites, the priestly tribe! this was the composition of Judah when the Kingdom split into North & South

          Again you & your cohorts in falsehoods & perverted knowledge have never answered the essential question: WHEN WAS ANCIENT OR MODERN DAY ISRAEL, A GREAT & MIGHTY NATION & ASSEMBLY OF NATIONS? OR A BLESSING TO ALL NATIONS (America) it never was……Yes, America has committed many wrongs, but overall, have we not been “A BLESSING TO ALL NATIONS” ?…in the ancient days, if one was a refugee, living in another country they were considered to represent their native land, thus by all the immigrants living here, AMERICA IS A BLESSING TO ALL NATIONS!!!

          The Founders & early Americans had a sense of this, that they were the Children of Israel come home, to their true home…look at how many places in America were named after Biblical cities, etc..They felt soul memories of the time they were Israelites centuries before….but, of course you do not believe in reincarnation! That’s because it was purged from your precious Bible at the Council of Nicea, by the Fallen Ones, to keep people in the dark…and it’s worked!

    • Pamela33168

      So have GOD fight with them, not my Sons

    • Karolyn

      We are ALL God’s chosen people!!

      • deerinwater

        Well? since you put it that way Karolyn, who among us would contest it? Since man created God to offer understanding, direction and leadership in a time and place where there were little to none for a common good in an effort to unit and live with intent and purpose, Gods true nature has been corrupted by many along the way.

        That many accept this God as the Divine failing to understand as God is described , God does not care which world that we live in, this one or the next. As it’s explain away, “In my Fathers House there are many mansions. ” ~ God does not do “Drama”, that is the work of man.

      • Karolyn

        Yes, deer, and God has no need of jealousy, anger or any other human “emotions.” Why would he/she/it?

      • http://none Charlie

        Karolyn,,, you’r goofy and a girl,,see 1 Timothy 2:12 then see Malachi 1:1—5… ALL ain’t gonna
        make the Kingdom some will be outside ,see Revelations 22:15,,,and some will be going toward the black hole at the speed of thought and that will be a hell of a trip… But during the mean time.
        Praise King Jesus for Salvation and Healing… Acts 2:38 is salvation…

        • OOOOPPPert EEEPert

          Karolyn is RIGHT….God does not pick a CHOSEN PEOPLE, we are all sacred in His eyes, that’s why he created us…man is the one that chooses…chooses to follow the LIGHT OF GOD or the DARKNESS OF THE DEVIL

          INNER MEANING OF DEVIL: “DEIFIED EVIL”

  • Iron Angel

    Genesis 12:3 “I will bless those that bless you and curse those that curse you…” Unlike you I guess, I would stand shoulder to shoulder with my brother to protect him, even to my death. As I would with any other family member. If they were being beat up and unable to stand, I’d die trying to save any one of them. Why? Because I love my family more than life itself, even if one of them irritates me and makes life hard for me I would do it. As for Israel, I love Israel and I love the Jews, likewise I would stand shoulder to shoulder and fight to the death to save one… Even though I am an old man now, I would gladly do all I could and even more more for God’s chosen people. Unlike you I guess…

    • http://boblivingstonpl.wordpress.com Bob Livingston

      Dear Iron Angel,

      You quote Gen. 12:3. That promise was to Abram (Abraham).

      Best wishes,
      Bob

      • Gordon

        It’s the Ephraim and Menassah thing, and he probably can’t explain it.

        • OOOOPPert EEEEpert

          EPHRAIM is AMERICA…..MANASSEH IS GREAT BRITAIN……”the younger shall be greater than the elder”

    • steve

      it is very admirable of you to want to help others but you have been either taught wrong or deceived. they were the chosen until they took part in killing jesus . read your bible .

      • Anthony Stevenson

        God still has His hand on Israel. As a matter of fact, after the Church is raptured, The Jews have their chance to seek the real Messiah (Jesus)!

      • steve

        show me in the bible the word rapture. like i have been saying , some are being misguided by false prophets. this word is not in the bible.

      • Gordon

        Anthony, the “rapture” is a modern day heresey that didn’t exist until about 1840 and was founded by a delerious fever ridden child. Is Jesus a liar? Read Matthew 23, for example, where Jesus in red letters states the exact opposite of the rapture heresey, and explains it by the usual story illustration. Noah and his family STAYED during all the tribulations in a protective ARK of God. Everybody else was taken away= killed. This is NOT an interpretation. This is exactly what it says.

      • Gordon

        Matt 24, sorry pushed the wrong button and didn’t proof read

      • Stacey

        The term “rapture” is a theological term derived from Latin. It is actually found in in the Latin Bible. Rapture means “caught up” or “carrying away”. 1 Thessalonians 4:15-18-
        15 According to the Lord’s word, we tell you that we who are still alive, who are left until the coming of the Lord, will certainly not precede those who have fallen asleep. 16 For the Lord himself will come down from heaven, with a loud command, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet call of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first. 17 After that, we who are still alive and are left will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And so we will be with the Lord forever. 18 Therefore encourage one another with these words.

      • http://none Charlie

        steve,,you and OOOOOOOOOOOOPert are making zero because you don’t list Scripture to back up your not so correct words… But anyway…………
        Praise King Jesus for Salvation and Healing… Acts 2:38 is salvation…

      • deerinwater

        “Those Bible verses apply to interpersonal relationships between believers. They do not apply with dealings with other nations who make themselves a nation’s enemy.That sloppy love has cost and doomed this nation by having it meddle in other nations’ governments.”

        Well Sir. , if you believe that, it explains a lot about what we seen taking place today a while you and like minded people missing the teaching by a country mile.

        There are no discrimination offered to enemies in these teaching. That is something that you have introduced.

        As for myself, I’ve outlived all of my enemies and made peace with the rest.

        That you have misunderstood the teaching of Christ is misfortunate but not uncommon at all.

        Loving ones enemies is very difficult to do, consider it a bar to clear. If you can do that, many things are revealed to you that are unknown to you.

      • http://none Charlie

        steve,,, how many dictionaries do you have ? did you ever notice most Dictionary books are as big as The Bible book??? What that means is there are a bunch of modern terms and words
        that are NOT in The Bible,,,take the word “”event””, it’s not in The Bible ,,,BUT,,,does that mean
        events are not in The Bible ??? OK? …
        Now, for the “”Rapture”” the event of the rapture is shown at 1 Thessalonians 4:14–18,,,Then,,,
        the rapture is explained by Peter , who never had a dictionary,, but was “The Key Man” of King Jesus Christ ,,,King Jesus knows ALL and IS ALL… See the “Key Man” at Matthew 16:19 ,,,SO,,,
        that made Peter a pretty smart guy , the word “guy” is not in the Bible , so what? do you know
        what it means?
        Peter explains the so called rapture at 2 Peter 3:9—13 … Could it be that you have been duped,
        deceived and deluded by the Satanic powers that be? because Satan has a better Dictionary?
        Meanwhile back at the Ranch,,, Praise King Jesus for Salvation and Healing … Acts 2:38…

    • Karolyn

      We are to love EVERYBODY! Not just Israel. We are ALL brothers! “Love thine enemy.”

      • Nadzieja Batki

        I don’t believe you know what you are spouting. What Bible did you say those words are from?

      • Karolyn
        • OOOOPPert EEEEpert

          There is no chosen people that is a lie, pure & simple…..PSALM 82.6…we are ALL Sons * Daughters of the Most High!!!!

      • Karolyn

        Nad – We are all brothers, especially if the story of Adam and Eve is believed.

      • deerinwater

        King James version; ( there are many, I’m left to believe)

        Mat 5:44 But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;

        Mat 5:46 For if ye love them which love you, what reward have ye? do not even the publicans the same?

        Mat 22:39 And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself.

        Luk 6:27 But I say unto you which hear, Love your enemies, do good to them which hate you,

        Luk 6:35 But love ye your enemies, and do good, and lend, hoping for nothing again; and your reward shall be great, and ye shall be the children of the Highest: for he is kind unto the unthankful and to the evil.

        Gal 5:14 For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself.

        Jas 2:8 If ye fulfill the royal law according to the Scripture, Thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself, ye do well:

      • Nadzieja Batki

        Matthew 5:43-44 applies to the Kingdom. When the Lord is on this earth then there won’t be any difficulty loving your enemies.
        In the meantime you have no authority from the Bible to love the enemies of your nation (which is America) if the enemies are hell bent on destroying this nation and its allies.

      • Nadzieja Batki

        Deerinwater and Karolyn, you do have personal enemies, people that you don’t get along with at work, family members that you can’t stand and they can’t stomach you, the people that rub you the wrong way in cashier’s line, on the road other drivers,etc., etc.. Those Bible verses apply to interpersonal relationships between believers. They do not apply with dealings with other nations who make themselves a nation’s enemy.That sloppy love has cost and doomed this nation by having it meddle in other nations’ governments.

      • http://none Charlie

        Karolyn,,,how about that ? you are some what right on the Love issue,,,BUT,,,the Bible says to love a number of things, but no where does it say to love God’s enemies as a matter of scripture
        it says to kill His enemies , see that at Luke 19:27…Got your sword sharp? Then……..
        Praise King Jesus for Salvation and Healing … Acts 2:38 is salvation…

  • The Buse

    We must stand with Israel. Exactly what Genesis 12:3 says and God is moving away from the US already. If we don’t stand behind Israel we are goners!! The Old Testament is not out of date. It is still God’s words and they still have meaning to us!!

    • Karolyn

      God NEVER moves away from anybody! People move away from GOD! God loves everyone equally. We are ALL one! It is the mind of man that creates conditions everywhere, not God. The collective energy of people affects everything. Thoughts are things; they have energy. Have you ever been in a room or house with a very angry person and felt the atmosphere? That is what negative energy projecting people are doing.

      • deerinwater

        Whoever was responsible for composing and edition the bible were not the run of the mill, ordinary people. It is say that it was “inspired by God” ~ but the truth be known, most things are, so that is not really not offering us very much of an explanation. . It’s circular reasoning at it’s finest!

        But to deny God is like a child denying the parent, ~ yes! it can be done, but does it make it so? There is no proof that God exist other then your presence. Are you willing to deny your presence? Can we even do that?

        So? Where does that leave us? Really ! Living beings Infecting a tiny piece of dirt, barreling it’s way though space, destination unknown in a universe of “giants” under some illusion that we are special and know something that only we can know?

        Well ~ I think that is awfully grand of us as we hold a one way ticket to the heavens but not wanting to dispense with our human form. We wish to take it with us, having became familiar and grown accustom to it.

        While I do not believe in per-destiny, I do believe in self-determination, the quality of our life for each of us is determined by how we choose to react to it and the choices that we make along the way.

        Being pretty or wealthy does not and will not make you or me happy or fill us up until we want for no more. What pleasure such things might bring will be brief and then disappear.

        The only thing that will fill this empty void is knowing who and what we really are and work to that end with purpose in our steps.

        You and I are but spirits hosting a human form, whether you know or accept this or not, does not matter in the least. Resistance is indeed futile, your are connected to the Universe from where you came and where you shall return, you will never die and have little say in the matter. Forgive me for saying this, ~ but there are no options. Sorry ~

        This leaves only two things inside your and my control,~ accept our human nature and purpose that has been assigned to each of us and use our time and talents well, understand our future reassignment in a place where “time” has no meaning will be reflected in the success of the last. These Two things, accept and surrender ~ so why much the second be so hard for man to do?

        In a Universe of nonliving things anything “living” is special as it is hosting life. Don’t waste it with nonsense and human pride.

        • OOOOPPert EEEEpert

          But, everything is alive…rocks, trees, minerals…everything has the energy of God in it & scientists have already proven there is an intelligence in every single jot & tittle of the Universe!

          Inner Meaning of UNIVERSE= “YOU & I VERSE”

          “True power is based not on force but on unity, on harmony. Never lose sight of this truth. Think of the family you are all to become, despite all that could keep you apart.
          All details such as your character, level of evolution, race, religion, social background or profession should be put to one side when you come together. They are only of secondary importance. In any case, they have no part to play in the spiritual life. Simply strengthen in your heart the conviction that despite all your differences you are brothers and sisters coming together to do work – to pray, meditate and sing with the aim of awakening consciousness throughout the earth. Then you will truly be a power for good.”

          MASTER OMRAAM

      • http://none Charlie

        Karolyn,,,one scripture does not delete another scripture ,,,ALL scriptures harmonize with some other scriptures ,,,SO,,,to arrive at “Truth” on any particular subject matter,,,such as “Love” ,”Hate” or whatever ,,,one must use The Bible Equation for truth which is found at Psalm 119:160 … So,,,IF,,,one does not have at least two Scriptures for any particular point , then one
        does not have both sides of the Bible equation … Remember God created Math also… So,,,
        Praise King Jesus for Salvation and equations … Acts 2:38 = salvation…

        • HEBREW HARRY

          You are starting with the premise that everything in the Bible is true & right….that is not the case, it’s been severely tampered with….Do you believe God will burn people & forever on top of that?

          Karolyn is right as rain!!

          • http://naver samurai

            Care to cite a source to back up that lie? FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

            You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot.

      • Joe Hammond

        All of this mythology propaganda is astounding. Let’s look at some logic. If Adam and Eve were the first humans formed in the image of Yah-weh and they had children how could their children have children without engaging in incest? The same can be for Noah and his family if you believe all other humans were drowned in the great flood. So with that are we not all related to each other? Are we not brothers and sisters? And by killing each other in the profitable corporate wars of the 1% are we not as guilty as Cain?

        With all the above isn’t it logical to say if you believe in Yah-weh then isn’t incest the plan to populate the earth?

        Ya gotta luv mythology!!! Its so Larry Flynt!

        • OOOOPPert EEEEpert

          That’s because they were not the only people at that time….see: “THE TEACHINGS OF THE ASCENDED MASTERS”……the essence of the Bible is true, but there is a lot that is symbolic & very misunderstood & there is a lot that has been omitted & a lot that has been changed & distorted…and there are a helluva lot more spiritual books & teachings that resonate with truth!!

        • http://naver samurai

          Care to cite a credible source showing it isn’t true? FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

          You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot.

  • The Buse

    Bob and Steve, You are not correct. I would say it’s you that need to read your Bible!

    • http://boblivingstonpl.wordpress.com Bob Livingston

      Dear The Buse,

      You write: “Bob and Steve, You are not correct. I would say it’s you that need to read your Bible!” Please cite for the book, chapter and verse I should read.

      Best wishes,
      Bob

      • Thor

        Sola Scriptura…eh, Bob. Maybe you could offer some scriptural proof that we should not support Israel.

  • The Buse

    Also Jesus was not killed, he gave himself up willingly. It was God’s plan and doesn’t have any bearing on whether or not the Jews are God’s chosen people. They certainly are! That is why God will protect them in the last days. Read Revelations!

    • Anthony Stevenson

      Exactly! There are some people posting here that are pulling things out of thin air for the sake of argument!

      • steve

        read math23;37-38 that’s the proof that the jews are no longer the chosen. however if you chose not to recognize the new testament then you will continue to falsely make your case.

        • The Buse

          Matthew 23:37-38 has nothing to do with the Jews not being the chosen people. That is talking about that they will not see Christ until he returns and everyone will bow down and call him Lord of all

      • steve

        buse, here’s what it says: jerusalem jerusalem ( thats the jews) the killer of the prophets(jesus) and stoner of those sent forth to her, how often i wanted to gather your children(jews) together, the way a hen gathers her chicks together under her wings . but you people (jews) did not want it. look your house is abandoned to you. this is god speaking to the jews .the house is abandoned god no longer see’s them there because they rejected him. i use the new world translation 1983. but even the king james is similar .

      • Gordon

        Anthony I hope you read my comment above: You are one who is citing heresey as truth. There are 10 modern heresies in modern christianity. Lies accepted as truth. Just read the Ten Commandments as a starter. How about, remember the sabbath day and keep it holy? Sunday? etc.

      • Nadzieja Batki

        This is to steve. How do you get around Romans 9, 10, and 11? Or does your church’s Liberal Preacher skip parts of the Bible that condems his Liberalism.

    • Mountain Saint

      Buse, the Jews are just one tribe of the twelve tribes of Israel. All twelve tribes (including the ten lost tribes) are the “chosen people” and they are suppose to be regathering in Israel in these End Times (Ezekiel 37:16-22)…Most Europeans and European-Americans are from one tribe or another and that’s why America and Europe have been blessed all these years and blessing the other nations with our inventions….The Jews are not alone – they are our brothers.

      • OOOOPPert EEEEpert

        Yes, the Jews are part of the 12 …but they are JUDAH…not Israel, and at one time there was civil war in Israel…as Armstrong shows, Jews are made up of the tribe of JUDAH, the priestly sect, the Levites & half the tribe of Benjamin!

    • http://none Charlie

      Buse,,,God’s plan is based on Truth,,,God’s words are Truth ,,,The Word of God IS God,,,see
      John chapter 1,,,so,,,for others to know you are writing or speaking Truth ,,,one MUST call out
      Scripture in compliance with The Bible Equation for Truth , see Psalm 119:160… then,,,
      Praise King Jesus because He = God Words…

      • http://none Charlie

        Hey, USA ,there you are JerUSAlem, and God said He would bless you by the linage of Abraham
        see Genesis 12:1–3 and see The New JerUSAlem at 2 Samuel 7:10… See The Mayflower Compact for who is The God / King of America… America …………
        Praise King Jesus for Salvation and Healing … Acts 2:38 is salvation…

      • http://none Charlie

        Israel,,,is a people ,,,not just a few hundred miles of desert dirt,,,see those people at 1 Chronicles
        16:13 , but, read all of 1 Chronicles chapter 16 and 17…. Then ………….
        Praise King Jesus for Salvation and Healing … Acts 2:38 is salvation…

  • Jacki

    why don’t you stop the (&^^*) and say that you are anti Israel. If you think that this President will ever do his job and stand by our long time friend you are fool

  • http://www.facebook.com/martha.benton.3 Martha Benton

    I’m glad Ben is not my ‘big brother’. He is only a ‘loving brother’ when the going is good. If it gets a little rough, he abandons you. Hmmm…reminds me of Obama!!

  • OOOOPPert EEEEpert

    Dear Bob Livingston,

    I highly urge you & all the others to order for free, Armstrong’s ‘America & Britian in Prophecy”……it will open you eyes, as it did mine. All the proof you need is in there. Ancient Israel & the modern version were never world powers, never fulfilled the blessings promised to Abraham’s seed…only Britain & America did & the free nations of Europe…but the best blessings went to America & Britain…as the Founders & early patriots knew in their souls & Lincoln Knew there is a Divine Hand guiding the formation of our nation, look at all the Biblical names given to cities, they knew they were the Children of Israel come home again …even Lincoln knew we did not deserve these blessings, but God had to keep his word to Abraham.

    Armstrong also used prophecy to predict the European Union & other events

    CALL 1-800-772-8577 for a free copy!

    Thanks, Bob for the great work you do in the Holy Name of Truth!!

    • http://boblivingstonpl.wordpress.com Bob Livingston

      Dear OOOOPPert EEEEpert,

      You write: “I highly urge you & all the others to order for free, Armstrong’s ‘America & Britian in Prophecy”……it will open you eyes, as it did mine. All the proof you need is in there.” All the proof I need is in the Scripture. America is not there. There is, however, a spiritual nation of Israel, which is God’s Church, and which fulfills the promise to Abraham. We are spiritual descendants of Abraham. (Galatians 3, Colossians 2, etc)

      Best wishes,
      Bob

      • steve

        correct bob although i was taught that spiritual israel is heaven.

        • http://boblivingstonpl.wordpress.com Bob Livingston

          Dear steve,

          You write: ” although i was taught that spiritual israel is heaven.” Please read Galatians 3

          “27 For as many of you as were baptized into Christ have put on Christ. 28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is no male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus. 29 And if you are Christ’s, then you are Abraham’s offspring, heirs according to promise.”

          Best wishes,
          Bob

        • OOOOPPert EEEEpert

          I’m talking about actual physical manifestations of the nations….much of this is symbolic…

      • OOOOPPert EEEEpert

        Yes, you are right, we are all God’s Children and His Heart & Love are open to all 24/7….but we talking here about Geo-Politics & prophecy & there is a connection, a way to interpret these sacred writings in context of modern current events…the Hosts Of Heaven are very, very involved in the nations & their leaders…sponsoring many, working with them at soul levels to see the earth is saved from darkness..

        Again, I urge all to open their minds & give Armstrong’s book a chance,

      • steve

        ooooopee, i guess you would rather stay with man’s teachings than god’s. so man has had 5000 years since adam and eve and they have never gotten it right and yet you still want us to follow man not god. brilliant.

        • OOOOPPert EEEEpert

          You really believe the earth has only been around 5,000 years??? as they say in Yiddish…OY VEY!!!

      • steve

        bob i agree with the spiritual abraham but you called it a church an i call it heaven. so maybe we agree but with a different name

      • Gordon

        Bob, changing religious interpretation is like trying to change a liberal. Hang in there Bob, the Scripture is the defining truth. amen.

        • OOOOPPert EEEEpert

          There are still many vestiges, little clues that the people knew about reincarnation in the Bible…for example: Why did they keep asking Jesus, “Are David?”, “ARe you Elijah, come again?”…why would they do that if they did not know about it? They had an understanding of it.

          See Book of John , chapter 9: Why would the people ask Jesus if it was the blind man that sinned or his parents, that he was born blind? How can you sin , if you never been born?

          Do you believe, that God is all BEAUTY, LOVE, MERCY, TRUTH, RIGHTEOUSNESS, all the great qualities, especially PERFECTION? if you do, then why are children born with all kinds of gross deformities, illnesses, etc..?? Why do people appear to be born as homosexuals, and all other perversions? I’ll tell you: It’s because of their misuse of Free Will in past embodiments….St. Francis talked about reincarnation all the time in the Public Square. and don’t give me that bunk about it being God’s Will…that is laughable, God would create suffering ????? NO WAY, WE CREATE THE SUFFERING, BECAUSE WITH FREE WILL WE ARE CO-CREATORS WITH GOD…it is His greatest gift…but you know what? It is not really free, it has to be handed back to Him, i one must obey the law..COSMIC LAW…the laws that are written in all our hearts & souls…just covered up by soul debris from hundreds of lifetimes in some cases.

      • steve

        i didn’t say the earth was 5000 years old. i said man was. no one knows how old the earth is, no one. only god. look in the bible .it gives the lineage from adam to jesus. you have to do the math. i’m rounding it off. look in the book of matthew.

        • OOOOPPert EEEEpert

          The earth & mankind has been around for hundreds of thousands of years!!!

          Google: “ROOT RACES”

    • deerinwater

      Gordon says:

      “Bob, changing religious interpretation is like trying to change a liberal. Hang in there Bob, the Scripture is the defining truth. amen.”

      WHAT? please Gordon, try actually saying something. ~ The act of Defining is a product and not necessarily a truth. The question is, are you buying this product or that product?

      It was Jews that recorded, wrote, and compiled the Bible, and since then it’s been edited by many, whole transcripts had been deleted. Wording and phrasing shifted and translated from early Hebrew into many languages. Early Hebrew was much like today’s languages, spoken in many dialects while very few early Jews even knew how to write at all, much less read. Many transcripts were handed down oratory from generation to generation.

      These transcripts possess a serious gender slant that would be indicative only of a human male and not a God. And a Jewish human at that! That today, Christians have taken the Jews bible , edited it and attached an addendum to it and somehow, in it holds the defining truth is laughable at best.

      Hey! if you want to live in the 21 century under some faith doctrine that preceded the invention of the wheel in a land so sparse and dry that men could not waste the water to keep their peckers clean, finding hygiene simpler to just cut the foreskin of their peckers off shortly after birth and claim it as some holy act, that is entirely up to you.

      But, I’m not buying everything the Jews have to sell, while I do enjoy their stories, finding them very interesting would be an understatement.

      These early people were no brighter then people today ~ stupid in someways, cleaver in others. Especially when it came to who leads and who follows. The guy that could read and write was seen as leadership material. Now whether all of them really could or not, is up to speculation, as long as there were no dispute, how could it possible matter?

      If you stop to think for a minute, Moses was raised in a privileged environment one that afforded education. While Abraham, not so much, as clearly he was found lacking in many way besides being incapable of controlling his women or keeping peace in his family.

      How David acquired his education is not clear to me, while being the youngest of several brothers to do the heavy lifting has some advantages and little doubt he was pampered and groomed with what educating that was at his family’s disposal and in fact, accounts for his brothers motives of jealousy so great in fact, that they would sell him to a traveling circus passing though. Carry home his bloody cloths, telling their mother little brother had been eaten by something that was very hungry.

      These early accounts was just people doing what people do! no halos, no special powers, They could and would and did lie and embellish just as people do today.

  • Mountain Saint

    If you were to read the Bible, you will discover that God hates the Arabs (Essau) for what they have been doing to God’s people all these years and wants them wiped out (Malachi 1:2-5)….Sometime in the near future, the Arabs will use their WMDs (maybe nuclear) on Israeli cities and the Israelis will be forced to annihilate their cities (Amos 1-2 and Isaiah 17:1). Jordan, Lebanon and Syria will disappear from the political map and these bitter enemies of Israel will not be able to participate in World War Three a few years later (no mention in Ezekiel 38, the World War Three chapter)..

    • OOOOPPert EEEEpert

      God does not HATE…but God judges and he judges first the Nephilim, the Watchers, the Fallen Angels,(SEE BOOK OF ENOCH), those who rebelled against him in Heaven…many of these are in positions of power in America & througout the world, these are the ZIONISTS, ILLUMINATI, BILDERBERGERS…the Dark Forces…not the Jewish people, not the Arab people, etc…they have nothing to do with this. God does not HATE, that is why he gave these renegades centuries of chances to bend the knee to the Christ & come back to the Light!

      These dark forces have run out of chances & as we are firmly in the Age Of Aquarius now, there time is up…..they have no place in the New Age of Freedom. They will be replaced by the Sons & Daughters of Light!!!!

      • Mountain Saint

        0000PPertEEEEpert. read Malachi 1:3 again. There are other passages that say the same thing.

        • OOOOPPert EEEEpert

          I’m not one of those that take every word in Bible as gospel truth…much has been tampered with…I believe God is a God Love, but no one gets away with darkness…every single jot & tittle must be accounted for!!

          • http://boblivingstonpl.wordpress.com Bob Livingston

            Dear OOOOPPert EEEEpert,

            You write: “I’m not one of those that take every word in Bible as gospel truth…” Therein lies your problem.
            Colossians 2:8ff
            “8 See to it that no one takes you captive by philosophy and empty deceit, according to human tradition, according to the elemental spirits of the world, and not according to Christ. 9 For in him the whole fullness of deity dwells bodily, 10 and you have been filled in him, who is the head of all rule and authority. 11 In him also you were circumcised with a circumcision made without hands, by putting off the body of the flesh, by the circumcision of Christ, 12 having been buried with him in baptism, in which you were also raised with him through faith in the powerful working of God, who raised him from the dead. 13 And you, who were dead in your trespasses and the uncircumcision of your flesh, God made alive together with him, having forgiven us all our trespasses, 14 by canceling the record of debt that stood against us with its legal demands. This he set aside, nailing it to the cross. 15 He disarmed the rulers and authorities and put them to open shame, by triumphing over them in him. (ESV)

            Best wishes,
            Bob

          • OOOOPPert EEEEpert

            Bob, did you ever hear that “TRANSLATORS ARE TRAITORS”….much of the sacred books of the world have been corrupted by the Fallen Angels, including NEW & OLD testaments, how many great writings have been LEFT OUT OF THE BIBLE, the writings of the Essenes, the Gospel of Thomas…much of karma & reincarnation have been taken out of the Bible…I follow a path called, :The Teachings of the Ascended Masters”…Jesus is one amongst many, Buddha as well…we believe there basic, essential truths in all religions, but they have been perverted to lead the people astray….it looks like they got you, too. Do you really believe there is only one way, only one man to follow & we only get one lifetime to do it?? Do you understand the fallen ones have set it up that way…Most Buddhist Monks are far more Christian than 99% of Christians…I guarantee you if you follow Buddha’s philosophy, that will draw you closer to the Heart Of God, than a million sermons by Billy Graham or Charles Stanley. The Fallen ones did all this to divide us & keep us away from the true nature of God, and the way Heaven is set up!

            Look at it this way: there are almost 7 billion people on earth, the majority are NOT Christians, but yet God expects these souls to leave whatever faith they are brought up in, all the brainwashing done by their ignorant parents & spiritual leaders & follow Jesus…there are souls on this planet who have never heard of Jesus..AND WE ONLY GET ONE LIFETIME TO DO IT IN!!!

            The whole key to understanding life & the nations..is karma & reincarnation

      • Karolyn

        For the most part, I love what you are saying ooooPP

      • Gordon

        Bob, seems as though ooopert believes that there is no absolute truth, therefore he defines himself.

        • OOOOPPert EEEEpert

          The Bible & all sacred books are the word of God, but it comes through men & therefore subject to their foibles & follies & agendas..many of which are driven by the Fallen Angels & their Godless agendas….

          If you believe that the Bible is ABSOLUTE TRUTH , I got some nice underwater Fannie Mae & Freddie Mac properties for you to buy!!!

      • steve

        so ooooopee you have a secretary and she types a letter for you ,your words. who wrote the letter? do i hear an oy-vey . all scripture is inspired by god 2tim 3;16

        • OOOOPPert EEEEpert

          It still has to come through men & subject to much change!!!

      • http://none Charlie

        OOOOPPert,,,see Romans 9 for the physical lineage of Paul and some of that lineage is in America today… BTW the Arabs are the lineage of Ishmael , who was born years before Esau.
        The Children of Israel (Jacob) are God’s chosen people , NOT just the tribe Judah… The Children of Israel are all over the Earth today as God said they would to Abraham at Genesis
        13:16… Praise King Jesus for ALL Blessings ………..

        • OOOOOPPPert EEEEPert

          You make a good point, but there were specific promises made to Joseph’s sons, Ephraim & Manasseh, that were greater than for the others…much of this is symbolic, too…but I believe in reincarnation & I do believe that the souls who were the seed of Abraham are now walking the earth, through all the nations, but the special grand promises were fulfilled first in Great Britain & then in America, not the country in the Middle East, I believe many of the Founders were of Ephriam…remember,too, that the ancient Kingdom Of Israel, split into North & South, the South being Judah…that is the nation that has been restored in the Middle East, NOT ISRAEL

  • The Buse

    Exactly. Look what happened to Britian when they turned their back on Israel after WWII. Not much of a world power now are they?

    • Karolyn

      What does being a World power have to do with anything?

      • deerinwater

        Ego

  • Naura Hayden

    Israel is much more than our little brother — it’s our best friend. And because it’s a tiny little country surrounded by giant countries over 20X bigger which want to decimate it, it needs our help at all times. Israel is a great country with great people who have survived for dozens of centuries, always hated by those jealous of its inner strenths and many talents, always in danger of being annihilated. America must never let them down, must always be there to help, no matter what. I know they would do the same for us.

    • Karolyn

      Our “best friend?” surely you jest! I would think more along the lines of Canada and Britain as best friends. What has Israel ever done for us?

  • Doug

    Israel is our ALLY, not our little brother, Ben. The only way Israel has screwed-up is by having much more restraint than the US would have if rockets were coming in at us from Mexico or Canada or even the US Virgin Islands.
    Ignore Genesis 12:3 at your own peril, not mine.
    The Jews are STILL God’s CHOSEN PEOPLE. Sorry you don’t agree.

    • OOOOPPert EEEEpert

      You misinterpret here….Genesis 12:3 is talking about the ISRAELITES not just the JEWS….

      America is modern day Israel…see Book of REVELATIONS 12:5-6

      • steve

        i just read rev 12;5-6 and there is no mention of america

        • OOOOPPert EEEEpert

          Of course it does not mention America, it wasn’t formed yet, but that is what it is referring to…get Armstrong’s book…..you will be amazed!!

          1-800-772-8577…for free copy.

      • steve

        so it’s your opinion with out proof

        • OOOOPPert EEEEpert

          God promised Abraham, His seed would be a great & mighty Nation (AMERICA) & an assembly of nations (BRITAIN) & a blessing to all nations (AMERICA)…ancient Israel & the modern one never fulfilled those prophecies….USE YOUR HEAD, MY GOOD MAN !!!!

          Read , AMERICA & BRITAIN IN PROPHECY” 1-800-772-8577

      • steve

        ooooooope the seed is jesus. read your bible . get the fact right. you don’t know what you think you know. do i hear an oy-vey

        • OOOOPPert EEEEpert

          Seed, Schmeed……There were 12 tribes, Judah was just one !!!

      • oh oh

        Genesis 12:3 is talking about Abraham through Israel, which included Judah as one of the Twelve Tribes. It wasn’t talking about the Jews, who are not Judah and, as Edomite, Canaanite, Kenites descendants, have a whole different set of prophesies (curses) that apply to them. This is what Armstrong missed and this has just added to the confusion of modern Christianity.

        • OOOOPPert EEEEpert

          You are spewing nonsense…can you tell these edomites by looking at them???…LOL!!!Much of this is symbolism, you don;t believe in reincarnation, so it does not really matter….Armstrong saw the outpicturing of events & hit the nail right on the head!!!

      • oh oh

        The single seed doctrine is just more confusion caused by universalist heresy that has wormed its way into Judeo-Christian seminaries (Moody Bible, Dallas Theological, etc.) to distort Galatians 3:16 and other NT scriptures. It feels good, but its wrong by any honest translation and understanding of Paul’s true mission. Most christians don’t even know who Paul was preaching to because they don’t know their own history. This keeps us ignorant of who the enemies of Christ are, who we are, and the role of the covenants promised to Israel…the Twelve Tribes of Israel, according to the flesh through Issac, who according to Christ and the apostles are the Children of the Promise, the promises given to Abraham, the covenant that was not destroyed when only the works of the law (the sacrifices, rituals, oblations) were ended. Judeo-Christianity is confused about this, throws the baby out with the bath and lets anti-Christ interlopers claim our birthright while spitting in the face of our Savior.

        • OOOOPPert EEEEpert

          SAXON= “ISSAC’S SONS”

      • oh oh

        Don’t get too lost in your “symbolism” and other common confusions. The answers are a lot easier to find than you think. They even identify themselves as Edom, which they admit is in modern Jewry and that’s just the tip of the iceberg. Are you listening to them? Armstrong didn’t. Christ warned us about them and so did his apostles. We should heed their warnings and care too before we succumb to their lies and temptations. They’re not hard to identify at all, once you free yourself of Jewish fables.

        • OOOOPPert EEEEpert

          You are as far from truth as Tibet is from NYC…you need to read the book of Enoch…learn about the Watchers, The Nehphilim, the Godless, etc…these were the Edomites, the Fallen Angels!!!

      • http://none Charlie

        OOOOPPert,,,have you accomplished Acts 2:38, per The Bible???

        • OOOOOPPPert EEEEPert

          Yes, I’ve been baptized in the Church Universal & Triumphant…..the Summit Lighthouse..The True Gospel..

          Google: Saint Germain….Sponsor of America, The True Israel

        • OOOOOPPPert EEEEPert

          Speaking of the Holy Spirit…Have you heard of the Violet Flame? The Holy Comforter?, The Maha Chohan? Seek & ye shall find………

      • http://none Charlie

        OOOOPPert,,, can you explain how you did Acts 2:38 ? and why and at what age ? and what did you receive for accomplishing Acts 2:38 per The Bible ???
        The reason for asking these questions is because , many people are baptized ,but they don’t understand what they have done ,,,it’s just a social thing ,,,therefore it is NOT “Recognized” by
        The Holy Spirit… A person that cannot explain something ,may not know something very well,
        therefore they may suffer the fate called out at Hosea 4:6 …
        King Jesus said , be not deceived,,,so,,,IF you are unaware that you are unaware , how do you
        know you have not been deceived ??? But during the meantime ……………
        Praise King Jesus for Salvation and Healing … Acts 2:38 is salvation…

        • OOOOPPert EEEEpert

          I follow the Teachings of the Ascended Masters,, we believe there is profound truths in all the major religions, but they have been corrupted by the Fallen Angels, mainly to keep us divided & in the dark about true Cosmic Law….hence I believe in Jesus, but Buddha , too, I do Hindu mantras, I believe in karma (you sow what you reap) & reincarnation (which was omitted from the Bible to keep souls in the dark)..I was baptized as an adult ,in Roses, in Church Universal & Triumphant , a part of the Summit Lighthouse..

          I invoke the Sacred Fires of God (God is a consuming Fire), by invoking the Science of the Spoken Word via the Violet Flame (The Comforter mentioned in the Bible)…

          Jesus taught the Violet Flame to his apostles…

          SEEK & YE SHALL FIND !!!!!

          Are you having a conniption now????………………..LOL!!!!!

    • Karolyn

      They are not God’s chosen people!

    • Gordon

      Doug, please study the lineage of the tribes of Israel, scattered to the wind, Judah being the Jews, and the heritage of Ephraim and Menassah. You might actually discover something worth while.

  • boyscout

    Ha Ha Ha. Ben, You have certainly ticked off the evangelicals and I get that your point is not to ditch them as allies but to tighten the purse strings. This is a good idea across the board. But “Iran is clearly pursuing nuclear weapons capability.” is something that the NATO and UN arms inspectors ” clearly ” disavow. Perhaps they are working out of country ?
    Not that they are not a real threat to to elitist American and British oil moguls and the still present but declining status of the US fiat dollar. And , although I will defend our country with all that I have, I will never again go to war to promote corporatist interest.

    • OOOOPPert EEEEpert

      Like Ron Paul says, it’s time to withdraw our funding from both sides in Israel & let them figure it out, how to live with each other…keep the military strong & ready…withdraw funding from all these nations & the ridiculous UN….it is not Iran that is our threat, but China!!!

      In fairness to Netnayahu, he took an oath to defend his people & unlike our pols on both sides, they do secure their borders & take it seriously…Israel is the size of a postage stamp & in some places only 7 miles wide, one nuclear bomb can blow thew whole place off the map, you can’t blame them for a preemptive strike on Iran!

      • boyscout

        Netnayahu has a view of defense very much like that of the GOP and considers a good offense it’s most integral part. He is a Zionist. I was joking about “out of country” nuke development. At this point such a program would be counterproductive to Iran’s best interest and, although the regime there ay be “evil,” it is certainly not stupid. With large oil reserves, Nuclear power plants, upcoming refinery capability, and exchange in currency other than US fiat, they are well poised.

      • Gordon

        Yesterday’s radio stated that it is believed that Iran has 60 nuclear weapons and methods to launch. That ought to make the middle east into a bigger desert? What is nuclear winter? Let’s just sit here and ignore it until it comes and find out by direct observation.

        • OOOOPPert EEEEpert

          You believe that….LOL!! do you know how many years it takes to create 60 bombs? But, if they have one, that could blow Israel off the map

      • boyscout

        Gordon, Iran has finally submitted to letting international arms inspectors crawl all the way up their colon and NO indication of WMD were found. Heard it on the radio (*media) did you. For a moment let’s assume that you live in a duplex and really hate your neighbor. Would you consider burning him out ?

        • OOOOPPert EEEEpert

          It could be they just wanted everyone to think they have them…..then again with Israel, all it takes is ONE, to blow it all up…..

      • http://none Charlie

        Read Obadiah…

  • http://www.cindynel.co.za peter

    Actually, God, if there is a God, has nothing to do with the lunacy and fanatical behaviour of the idiotic human race. Perhaps we are after all the remnants of the erstwhile visitation from aliens ( Gods?) who intermingled with the ladies of this planet and we are the product of the union. Their experiments sure as hell went haywire. Cut the crap and just accept that we are all part of a passing parade and will surely pass on into history just like those who were sorted out by catastrophic events in the history of the planet. We take ourselves far too seriously and in real terms are not worth a mention in the annals of time.

    • steve

      your first sentence is correct. the rest is a dream

    • http://none Charlie

      peter,,,Yes , The Almighty God , AND ,other , lesser gods are around and on Planet Earth right
      now,,,because,,,IF,,,they were not , then , we could not violate The First Commandment …
      The BIG G God and the little g gods presence are very obvious to one that has eyes that can recognize scientific laws,,,weather, Sun , etc……… In the meantime ………
      Praise King Jesus for Salvation and Healing … Acts 2:38 is salvation…

  • The Buse

    Read Revelations 12 where it talks about sealing the 144,000 of the tribes of Israel. They are all Jews!

    • steve

      wrong chapter. 12 talks about the birth of jesus and of satans dethroning and casting out of heaven to the earth. chapter 7&14 talk about the 144,000. by the way israel in the book of revelation is not a nation of people it is another term used to describe heaven.

      • Nadzieja Batki

        You would believe this BS. If God does not keep his Covenants with Israel how can you be sure that your existance matters?

      • steve

        he did keep his covenants with them . them did not keep them with him. read issaiah,jeremiah,ezekiel and daniel. that should keep you busy for a while.

    • OOOOPPert EEEEpert

      U are completely WRONG!!!

    • Mountain Saint

      Buse, no, they are not all Jews. The 144,000 are from “all” twelve tribes of Israel, not just one tribe…You will notice that the tribe of Dan is missing from the twelve tribes listed in Revelation 7;5-8. The Antichrist will be coming from this tribe (Genesis 49:16-17).

      • steve

        could be obama.

      • http://none Charlie

        Mountain,,, We think you need more research on this anti-Christ thing and the tribe Dan… The Man , Dan was named by Jacobs fair lady Rachel , and notice , Manasseh replaced Dan in the
        tribes of 144 thousand ,and Manasseh was the son Joseph and Joseph was the first son of Rachel ,,,get the picture? In simple words , ain’t no anti-Christ coming out of any pure sons of Jacob Israel , now , some cross breed son of Jacob Israel may show up as one of the anti-Christs … Note ,,,at 1 John 2:18 , antichrists were already on the lands ,,,so,,,who is this “The anti-Christ” you write of ??? Show Scripture… Mean while …
        Praise King Jesus for Salvation and Healing … Acts 2:38 is salvation…

        • HEBREW HARRY

          The Anti-Christ is here, and his name is Obama/Soros

    • Gordon

      If you can’t prove theories by NOT using Revelation, then they are invalid, IMO. Revelation was NOT an accepted part of Scripture until recent history, and is still not univerally accepted. Revelation is almost like a Nostrodamus thing. Trying to make stuff fit to make a good story, like the rapture heresey.

      • steve

        so here’s something you can watch for and then maybe you change your mind. rev 18 talks about the destruction of babylon the great. babylon the great is the empire of false religion . god is going to put it into the hearts of all governments , rev 17;17, to shut down and destroy all religion. look now how religion is being attack little by little . it will hapen in you life time . watch for it. it’s the kick off classic to the great tribulation.

      • steve

        also it’s your loss not except and learn what revelation says. it describes the end of this system we live in and what will happen after the tribulation. hope your around.

      • http://none Charlie

        Gordon,,,better read Revelations 1:1–10 and Revelations 22: 19–21 and you may see that it ties
        in with the Bible equation for Truth found at Psalm 119:160… But one MUST look and investigate
        the evidence to have anything proven … Could it be you have been duped, deceived and deluded
        by the modern day anti-Christs ???

  • Jim Jones

    Ben Crystal bows down to lick Lord Rothschilds boot.

    • eddie47d

      Yes we should defend Israel but we should not be blackmailed especially from an ally.

      • Jim Jones

        The state of Israel IS the House of Rothschild.

        • OOOOPPert EEEEpert

          If so, they should be able to buy their own weapons!! Truth be told, the Illuminati have poisoned every large & economically important nation on earth nation !!!

      • oh oh

        The political State of Israel was a Zionist ploy that has cost the Christian West countless lives and treasure. It never would have been possible without the modern advent of Judeo-Christianity, which is substantially based on the errant doctrine that the Edomite Jews in the State of Israel are the descendants of Biblical Israel or Judah. They have always been clever about deceiving us into financing their schemes and, incredibly, at times, our own demise. They and their religion are strangers to us. To them, we’re sheep to shear and, from their standpoint, as slothful and ignorant as we’ve become about our own heritage, we’re not much smarter than sheep.

  • The Buse

    yes, I was wrong, It’s Revelation 7 that talks about the 144,000 Jews

  • pixieatbeach

    One of the main reason this country is so blessed is because we support Israel. As we have seen in years past the support is not as strong, we as a country have moved further and further away from God and, we are not so blessed anymore. In fact we are in down right troubl. Be not deceived Israel is God’s chosen. He will not allow them to be destroyed. However, USA is not mentioned in end times….hmmm where are we or better yet who/what name are we under.

    • oh oh

      Actually, our problems increased when we embraced the anti-Chists in Israel. We are mentioned in prophesy, but those same anti-Christs have made certain our scriptures and history remain mysterious to the typical Judeo-Christian.

  • FedUp!

    Well you are wrong. If you give them over, God will give us over! Get it??? So stop comparing them to a little brother. They have enemies that say they should not exist. The same enemies that say christians should not exist so try to get a clue!

    • oh oh

      Yes, and the anti-Christian doctrines of the Talmud ultimately mean that our Western Christian civilization should not exist. We should be cognizant of all anti-Christs.

  • Enufalready

    Israel is not our ally. Israel is a leech. The home to those who wreaked havoc, murder, mayhem and the destruction of the cultures of the old Russian Empire which they transformed into the totalitarian behemoth, the Soviet Union. Too many well-meaning but ignorant Americans believe that Reagan “brought down” the Soviet Union, but he did not, and neither did his successor, Bush. The truth is that so many true Jew communist believers had fled the land their Bolshevik forebears had pillaged and gone to Israel that there remained hardly a soul left in the USSR who believed any more in the system. After all, communism being a Jewish scheme to deprive Christians of their wealth, when you’ve already got their money, or when you’ve long since stolen it and squandered it, why not move on and start up a new and much better racket – playing the victim in your own little world, no longer having to mix with those dreadful goy, but being forever provided a special dispensation from the dumb Brit-American superpower to beg for alms and impose upon the unsupecting born-agains to die on your behalf?

    • Gordon

      Israel is a leach? LIke 49% of the USA population?

  • betty

    GOD is in control. It does not matter who says what or does what, scripture is VERY clear, Isreal will stand. You can spout all the “intellectual” words and opinions or make all the nasty comments about Isreal you desire, GOD WORD STANDS, all else is foolishness.

    • Gordon

      God is in control? Betty, that is a modern day heresey. God has established a pattern of nature and allows mankind their FREE WILL. God is NOT creating war and chaos, famine and death, etc. HE is allowing the laws of nature and the free will of mankind act.

      • Gordon

        If your husband were an adulterer and a drug addict, and wife beater, is God in control? Is it God’s will? Did God create and mandate that your man be that way? If God did, then you should go with the flow and not oppose God’s will for your life…… get the point yet?

      • OOOOPPert EEEEpert

        FREE WILL IS THE NUMBER ONE LAW IN THE UNIVERSE…..God, through the angels does work with souls all the time to get them to do God’s Will, but mankind has a lower nature..the ego that tries to get him off the path…it;s a battle of Light vs. dark every hour!!!

      • Nadzieja Batki

        OoooP, angels worked and work on behalf of israel. Angels do not have a ministry to the church, unless you see the church as replacement for Israel.
        By the way Israel exists as a nation by the will of God and God will accomplish the Covenants he made with Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob.

        • OOOOPPert EEEEpert

          I’ll keep on correcting all who are misguided, the land in the Middle East is JUDAH!!!! it is NOT physical Israel!!!!

        • OOOOPPert EEEEpert

          Those promises have been kept & manifested in America & Britain, and many of the free nations of Europe….the blessing the Jews had was they knew from whence they came, though they were heavily persecuted….

          “THE LOST SHEEP OF THE HOUSE OF ISRAEL”..relates to those in America & Britain & Europe who knew not that they were descended from the Israelites.

          One must believe in reincarnation to know that many were in the ancient land itself!

      • oh oh

        Oooopp, you need to start any such corrections with your own misguided understanding about Judah. By failing to distinguish Judah from the Jews you close the door to understanding prophesy as it relates to the non-Israelite (non-Judahite) Jews who reside in the political State of Israel. Even the British Israelite Federation is back peddling after recent DNA evidence that proves that the Jews are a mixed race, more closely related, ironically, to Arabs and even Turks, than they are to the European descendants of Israel. You need to look elsewhere for the true descendants of Judah. The answers are their if you can break free of these stale Armstrong notions.

    • pixieatbeach

      I’m with you Betty. When the rapture occurs and God’s knows what the gov. will say to these folks – I hope some of these folks print this off and remember this. Israel will be attacked, but, not harmed, but the rapture will occur before that I believe or right after the attack.

      • steve

        show where this word rapture exist in the bible. what book chapter and verse. if you can’t then it doesn’t exist. you have been lied to. do your own research .

      • oh oh

        The Rapture…another myth by Catholic monks to confound Protestants during the Reformation. It stuck and it’s given Judeo-Christianity the ultimate excuse not to be responsible for living righteous lives and taking responsibility for our nation now.

      • http://none Charlie

        pixie,,,what are going to do if Obadiah happens before the rapture ???

    • oh oh

      Betty, you don’t don’t know who Biblical Israel is. Instead, you’ve bought into Jewish (Judeo-Christian) fables and actually embrace the anti-Christ. The Jewish joke is on you and all the other well-meaning, but historically ignorant Judeo-Christians.

    • oh oh

      Betty, as the prophets revealed, Israel will stand, and although its enemies will be destroyed, Israel will not go unpunished. The trick is to understand who Israel is. Judeo-Christianity has been led to believe the Jews in the modern political State of Israel are the Israelites of the Bible. This error has been used to give cover to mixed-breed Edomite, Canaanite, Kenite Jews, who have thereby had their way with us for millennia. Christ warned us about them, but we are more interested in Jewish fables that the words of our own Savior. We were promised an awakening among true Israel (the Twelve Tribes), but that comes rather late in the game. In the meantime, with so many blind Judeo-Christians, the remnant has its work cut out for it.

    • http://none Charlie

      betty,,,you are absolutely right ,,,King Jesus is in teetotal “Control” because He defeated the Devil at The Cross and proved it 3 days later with over 500 eyewitnesses ,,,BUT,,,for us to be
      in Control of King Jesus , we must know His Will and His Laws and “”Orders” and “Abide” in
      them , did you pray The King’s Prayer ,at , Matthew 6:9–13, today ?…
      Do you know the first two “Orders” and understand them ? at Matthew 6:33…
      The King’s Key Man said to do Acts 2:38 , have you done it PER The Book???

  • raw

    It’s simple – if it’s wrong to attack Iran then don’t support Israel on this one…it’s all about money & power anyway, not who or what is right or wrong.

  • Anthony Stevenson

    There are a lot of weirdo cult followers and Armstrong is merely a cult leader!

    • OOOOPPert EEEEpert

      I never joined his group, or followed him in any way, except reading his book on prophecy, and no matter what his faults as a human were, I truly believe he was dean on right about these things!

    • oh oh

      Next to Catholicism, Judeo-Christianity, with all of its universalist heresies, is the biggest cult of all. Armstrong never understood who the Jews are.

      • OOOOPPert EEEEpert

        Catholicism is not a cult..it was first church on earth, many of its sacred rituals have been around from the beginning!

      • oh oh

        The ecclesia of the early “church” resembled nothing like the structured beast that followed in the form of the Catholic church. Even IF it had been the first church (and by the teachings of the apostles and history, it wasn’t), it was so steeped in paganism and compromised from the beginning and teachings foreign to the Christianity of Christ and the apostles, that it couldn’t be anything but the world’s biggest Christian cult. As such, it’s fate was justifiably predicted in Revelation of Christ…and it’s not pretty.

        • OOOOPPert EEEEpert

          There are souls of Light in every religion, every nation….this is all a waste of time….plot by the Fallen Ones to divide us

      • oh oh

        True, there is always an enlightened remnant. But there are also Kenite scribes and other liars that we warned to avoid and warn our brethren about lest we become their victims. This was important to Christ and His apostles and it should be important to us. Paint with too broad a brush, and you might miss who the bad guys are. Christ had no problem identifying them by heritage and deeds.

    • steve

      so i guess the temple’s that jesus visited don’t count cause they were not called churches.i might be wrong but catholicism started in the 5th century by constantinople.

      • oh oh

        The ecclesia of the NT was relatively informal and predated the Catholic Church by many years. It was Constantine, not “constantinople,” who, in approximately 325 AD, decriminalized Christianity, which had been practiced in local assemblies throughout the Holy Land and the regions visited by the apostles to preach to the Lost Sheep of the Twelve Tribes of Israel. There were early bishops who tried to follow the examples of the apostles, but most of them became martyrs, only to be replaced by more political types who cooperated in the assertion of more bureaucratic and centralized control under Justinian or Theodosius in the early 6th century when Catholicism became the official church for the first time, pagan warts and all. Christian assemblies existed in regions as far as Britain centuries before.

  • Ted Crawford

    I normally agree with Ben, but in this case, to step back from the support of our only ally in the Middle East, at what appears to be their greatest hour of need since 1947, seems very counterintuitive to me! That is unless we are willing to abandon the entire Middle East to the Muslim Brotherhood!

  • Thor

    I am a bit confused, Bob…lessee, you are using New Testament scripture to justify not supporting Israel? Does that make the Pentateuch irrelevant? And how does that notion jibe with “Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them.” (Matt. 5:17)

    And, Ben, gotta part company with you on this one, ole hoss. While I agree with you morally and politically, as a matter of global strategy, the idea leaves much to be desired…it will prove an outright disaster, in fact.

  • oldshooter

    There are (at least!) two problems with the rationale behind this post:

    First, Israel is our ALLY not our little brother. We are bound by treaty and honor to help them against military threats to their survival, which a nuclear armed Iran clearly poses. We are also honor bound to assist them if they are invaded or seriously attacked by more conventional military means. If we don’t want to hold up our end of this arrangement the honorable course is to terminate our treaty agreements with them as soon as we make that decision. If attacked, the Israelis have very minimal time and space to react effectively, and may not survive unless we IMMEDIATELY come to their aid militarily. The best way to forestall such attacks is to ensure that their potential attackers believe beforehand that we will do so. They must know that, even if they defeated Israel in a blitzkrieg type assault, the USA would STILL enter the fray, just on principle, and destroy them in return. Would that cost us blood and treasure? Almost certainly, So maybe THAT is the discussion we should be having in our country now. It’s a cop-out to talk about letting Israel “handle things on their own.” The other powers in the arena must truly believe the USA will avenge Israel, even if they destroy Israel in a first strike scenario, or we are just inviting an attack on our ally.

    Second, the analogy of Israel as our little brother, if we are going to use it, would more accurately be couched in these terms: “Suppose we saw a thug threaten to kill our little brother with a gun, how quickly and strongly would we react then?” He could be killed, gone foreever, in moments. Do we wait and see if he can “handle it” himself, or do we grab our own gun and immediately come to his aid? If you chose the former, you are one very cowardly big brother!

    • oh oh

      We are not supposed to yoke ourselves unevenly with untrustworthy aliens, nor are we to have intercourse with the enemies of Christ. If we do, we pay, and in the case of Israel, we have…big time.

  • Karin Moore

    I think you need to read Gen 12:3 & let it really soak into your mind & heart, because if we aren’t fighting WITH them then we are against them. I hope you know how God responds to that.

    • oh oh

      The problem with your premise is that the political State of Israel is not the Biblical Israel of Genesis 12:3. That’s a Jewish fable hatched by the anti-Christ, Edomite, Canaanite, Kenite Jews Christ warned us about. They are not the descendants of Issac by their own admission in the scriptures, yet most Judeo-Christians would rather have their ears tickled with Jewish fables and never lift a finger to find out who THEY really are.

      • OOOOPPert EEEEpert

        JUDAH….JUDAH…JUDAH…..it’s JUDAH, NOT ISRAEL!!!

      • oh oh

        Yes Judah, Judah, Judah, one of the tribes of Israel who were part of His sheep, not the Edomite, Canaanite, Kenite Jews who were not Judah, but mixed Idumeans and anti-Christ interlopers who persecuted Christ, Christians and are now unraveling Christian civilization. They were condemned by Christ for the liars they and their fate was sealed long ago.

  • G.R.Estepp

    isnt this Ironic
    During the cold war Isrial was the only dependable ally we had in the region, we used them as A test bed for many of our weapons systems and THEY pioneered how to counter heavy anti air missle networks, They did act as our sarogates during many ocasions where we couldnt because it might comprimise our access to oil. They even looked the other way when we got the french to go into Lebanon during the middle of Operation Peace In Galalee to pluck out ARAFAT because between him and the new fractions ABU NADAL sect he was themost moderate.
    Now its throw them to the wolves?

    • oh oh

      Self-interest is a great motivator and common enemies create strange bedfellows. But no amount of such sentiment can erase that very real strangeness or the other side of the coin you failed to mention.

  • Mountain Saint

    The Israelis won’t need our foreign aid very much longer. They will soon be awash with so much silver and gold, “goods and cattle”, bought with oil revenue, that even Russia would risk world war to rob them of this wealth (Ezekiel 38 and Isaiah 17:14)….No, America is not Israel’s big brother. God has been blessing us because of them and the praying Christians and not the other way around. But, unfortunately, the number of righteous saints in America are getting fewer and fewer until now it’s about the same percentage as Sodom and Gomorrah had when God destroyed them with fire and brimstone. God will do the same with us (Luke 17:28-29)…Yes, because of the New Covenant, the born-again Christians are receiving the blessings of Abraham but the land of Israel itself belongs to the twelve tribes of Israel. In the near future King David will rule Israel (Ezekiel 37:25) and we, the bride of Christ, in our glorified bodies will be kings and priests everywhere else (Revelation 1:6).

    • oh oh

      Once you realize that the political State of Israel is not the Biblical Israel of Ezekiel and Isaiah, and that they, Jeremiah, Hosea and other prophets told us that Israel would disperse and be found elsewhere to receive the blessings and the curses the phophets described, and once you realize that the current occupants of that little Middle East sandbox are not Biblical Israelites, but instead, Edom (Edomites, Canaanites and Kenites), then their fate becomes clear as well. As anti-Christs, as bad figs, as the people against whom Yahweh hath indignation forever, it’s not good regardless of how much booty they have taken from Judeo-Christian nations who don’t even realize that Ezekiel and Isaiah are speking to them…not Jews, not spiritual Israel, but them.

  • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing Jay

    “Every time we do something you tell me America will do this and will do that… I want to tell you something very clear: Don’t worry about American pressure on Israel. We, the Jewish people, control America, and the Americans know it.” -Israeli Prime Minister, Ariel Sharon, October 3, 2001.

    “The organized Jewish community in the U.S., prodded by the Israel Lobby, has been one of the major impediments to the kind of discourse, to any peace process that cares equally for both sides. The fact that Barack Obama felt that pressure intensely enough to insert in his speech on race a line about the real problem in the Middle East stemming not from Israel’s relationship to its neighbors but only from Islamic fundamentalism, is only the latest example of the incredible power of the Israel lobby to make questioning Israel’s policies in the U.S. a sure path to political suicide.” -Rabbi Michael Lerner

    “I can tell you from personal experience that, at least in the Congress, the support Israel has in that body is based completely on political fear–fear of defeat by anyone who does not do what Israel wants done. I can also tell you that very few members of Congress–at least when I served there–have any affection for Israel or for its Lobby. What they have is contempt, but it is silenced by fear of being found out exactly how they feel. I’ve heard too many cloakroom conversations in which members of the Senate will voice their bitter feelings about how they’re pushed around by the Lobby to think otherwise. In private one hears the dislike of Israel and the tactics of the Lobby, but not one of them is willing to risk the Lobby’s animosity by making their feelings public.” -former U.S. Senator James Abourezk

    “When it comes to the Israeli-Arab conflict, the terms of debate are so influenced by organized Jewish groups, like AIPAC, that to be critical of Israel is to deny oneself the ability to succeed in American politics.” -Henry Siegman, former Executive Director of the American Jewish Congress (AJC) and Middle East expert at the Council on Foreign Relations (CFR)

    The presidential candidates know this. Barack Obama proclaimed at the last AIPAC war rally:

    “Israel is our strongest ally in the region and its only established democracy… we must preserve our total commitment to our unique defense relationship with Israel by fully funding military assistance and continuing work on the Arrow and related missile defense programs deter missile attacks from as far as Tehran and as close as Gaza.”

    American subservience to Israel and Zionism is so profound that it is almost religious in nature, and can’t be fully explained by the influence of a few pro-Israel lobby groups. AIPAC is only one component of an enormous Zionist power network that pervades the American body politic and beyond that into the very fabric and psychology of American culture.

    Professor Joel Kovel writes:

    “The lobbies as such are therefore powerful enforcers of a much more broadly based system. This develops within what is called civil society, the interconnected set of institutions that comprises the connective tissue of a nation, and includes churches and synagogues, schools, libraries, publishers, and a wide range of community organizations. Among this great mass certain Zionist organs of repression have crystallized in recent years—Campus Watch, CAMERA, the David Project, and so forth—and, in alliance with traditional Zionist groups such as the Anti-Defamation League and the Zionist Organization of America, have acted as focal points of repression. I am sure that they communicate with each other, with AIPAC, and with other major Jewish organizations, as well.

    But while there are definitely lobbies among these networks, the overall network is no lobby. It would be better to call it, as sociologist James Petras has, a “Zionist Power Configuration,” or perhaps we could say, a “Zionist Apparatus.” What we call it is not especially important; what matters is that we understand that the loose and decentralized character of the network floats atop an attitudinal sea that supports the basic notions of Zionism, and functions to structure the Israeli cause in the collective mind.”

    The American media machine is perhaps the most important and powerful arm of the Lobby for its role in creating and fostering pro-Israel sentiment whilst instilling in the people a fear of ‘terrorists’ and ‘Islamic fundamentalists’.

    TV media dictates the status quo, sets the psychological scene and shows us how to think. Much of the media’s power is in what it doesn’t do – that is, show the public honest, fearless reporting on the horror of war and the facts on the ground in places like Gaza and Iraq. This is the era of embedded journalism where the media and the military join forces to produce and present carefully choreographed ‘war’ imagery for insertion into the American psyche, a sanitised Hollywood version, rated G and fit for mainstream consumption. That’s if you get to see any at all: Israel forbids journalists entry into Gaza during military operations even against the orders of its own Supreme Court, and routinely kills media personnel.

    There seems to be no real mainstream awareness of how surreally counter-democratic and insidious this is. Slowly, this kind of perversion of democracy is becoming the norm. When something is identified as an obstacle to such a fundamental principle as democracy, when is it acceptable to ignore it?

    The Israel lobby has taken over the government of the American Empire, and until we acknowledge and address the problem, America will remain Israel’s imperial b*tch.

    http://wakeupfromyourslumber.com/node/2228

    • oh oh

      They have done this wherever they have gone. This is the fulfillment of prophesy. They are the bad figs that were scattered and destined to curse the nations. They always have and always will as long as they can keep up the charade about their identity as the Chosen People of the Bible. Until Judeo-Christians wake up and heed the admonitions of their Savior, they will squander their birthright while, ironically, embracing the very ones who have stolen it from them.

  • shermangerherd

    GERMANY? did he actually say GERMANY? First, read and understand your HOLY BIBLE, not one of those sissy books available on every corner. Germany is the enemy along with many more.
    Does “I will bless them that bless you” ring any bells?

    • http://none Charlie

      shermangerherd,,,The pure German People in general are the most intelligent , gifted people on
      Planet Earth , the history of the German people in general prove this and the history of German people in America proves it… Who are the best Rocket Scientist ?, who has built some of the
      first and best cars , truck, airplanes ,,,but,,,that does not mean they are not “sinners” just as all
      people are … In My opinion ,most Germans are the lineage of the tribe of Judah, and when they
      learn to Praise King Jesus for Salvation and Healing , they will be a Great Nation again …

  • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing Jay
  • Steve green

    I think your asking for trouble going against God’s chosen, beware, God bless those that bless Israel, & curses those that go against them .

    • OOOOPPert EEEEpert

      OOOOOPPPPPPsssssssss SAYS POPPYCOCK !!!!!!!

      • Karolyn

        Good word for it OOOOPPert.

    • oh oh

      It would be trouble IF they were God’s chosen. They’re not; they’re Edomites Jews, not Judah. Unfortunately, this is still trouble as these Sons of the Satan take advantage of the actual Chosen. But that’s always been the trademark of the Children of the Adversary…to turn all understanding on its head.

  • Karolyn

    It’s unbelievable to me how many people refuse to question their beliefs even in the face of evidence contrary to what they believe to be true. I am talking about religious/spiritual beliefs. It’s something they’ve believed their whole lives, so it just has to be true! And, no, I am not like that. I am always open to new ideas/interpretations. That’s the sign of an open mind.

  • Randy131

    Tried to E-mail Ben Crystal about this article, but the ‘E-mail this Author’ at the bottom of the article with his picture and a short bio, doesn’t work, so I’ll just make a comment about this article and hope he reads it.

    Ben, I love reading your articles and agree with what you have to say about 100% of the time, and even look forward to watching your saturday videos, but you have gone off the reservation with this article, and in my opinion it is nothing but tripe and BS. Since when have we ever backed Israel by sending troops to help them, or ships, or airplanes, or even missiles, and can you name one instance when an American military member lost his life aiding Israel. or even was injured aiding Israel? We do nothing but vote in their favor in UN matters, until Obama became president, and given them foreign aid in money to buy arms from our military complex, helping our military industries as much as it helps the Israelis. We did nothing in personell help when Israel was being bombarded by artillery daily from the Golan Heights, we do nothing today in personell help when they’re attacked by rockets from the Gaza Strip and Lebanon, we did nothing in personell help when Israel was attacked by it’s neighbors several times causing local all-out war, in fact we pressured them to stop when headed into Cairo and Damascus, we continually put pressure on them to give back land won in these wars, which others have started and waged against them and that they need to further protect themselves from those same attacks, which would occur again if they give all the land back, such is now expected of Egypt to do after Israel gave back the Sainai for supposed peace with Egypt. We did nothing to help them when their atheletes were killed at the Olympics 40 years ago, they hunted down the perpetrators themselves and imparted their own justice, nor did we do anything for Israel when their citizens were taken hostage at Entebe, they again took care of the matter themselves and got their people back. In fact the Israelis take much better care of their people than we do ours. So just what trouble is it that the Israelis have instigated that has embarrassed you enough to roll your eyes, like your younger brother caused you to do? They did us and the world a great favor by stopping Sadam’s regime from building a nuclear weapon, with no personell help from us, but a small amount of intelligence. And if they do to Iran what we should do ourselves, to stop Iran from getting a nuclear weapon, again they’ll be doing us and the world a great favor. There is something you don’t realize, which I was once told by a Rabbi that was an American citizen and a Marine, before emigrating to Israel to live out his life, whom I meant and started up a conversation with him at the ‘Wailing Wall’, and he asked me that when the Muslims get done with the Jews, who did I think they were coming after next, which I knew he meant the Christians and the country with the most Christians, which the Muslims refer to as the ‘Great Satan’, the USA. If Iran gets nuclear weapons, the first will be ignited in Israel, and the ones after that will be brought across the border that all politicians refuse to secure, and taken into our largest cities and ignited, and you can bet the farm on that. The Muslims think it was such a great thing what Al Quaida did on 9/11, just think of the celebration they’ll have when some, or just one, of our cities are destroyed by a nuclear bomb, that comes across our southern border? Any true Christian knows what GOD said about the Israelis that is recorded in our Holy Bible, those who curse the Israelis, I will curse, and those who bless the Israelis, I will bless. This being the most Christian nation on Earth, why do you think we are the ‘ONLY’ ally Israel has? I remember growing up in the 1950s, when Protestants and Cotholics condemned each other, and before that the history of Christians and Jews condemning each other, but today Protestants and Catholics and Jews are all brothers under the one and only great GOD, why do you suppose all their attitudes have changed so? True Christians believe that the Reign of Jesus will begin at the end of the final battle of the next world war, at Armageddon. Do you think that Biblical Prophecy will never come true, and why do you think that all I have just written about has been set up to occur? If you think none of this is plausible, please explain why, and explain why you think we need to abandon Israel when they will truly need our physical and personell help and support the most, despite what GOD has said that is recorded in the Holy Bible?

    • OOOOPPert EEEEpert

      America is ISRAEL…….the nation in Middle East is JUDAH….plain & simple!!!!

      • Anthony Stevenson

        Yeah, right!

      • oh oh

        The political State of Israel is not Judah. Its citizens are primarily of Edomite, Canaanite and Kenite extraction, the very people Christ warned us about. They admit it and so does the DNA evidence. These are the bad figs of prophesy, not the descendants of Judah and Benjamin, who were pure-blooded Israelite Children of the Promise. You know a lot about the major promises that pertain to Abraham’s descendants through Issac, but like Armstrong, you seem to drop the ball when if comes to the anti-Christ Jews and the very different, and terrible prophesies that apply to them.

      • Randy131

        Well, in a way you are correct! In Israel today there are only 2 of the 12 ‘Tribes of Israel’, and the other 10 are purported to be lost. Armand Hammer, a billionaire industrialist, who started his own Christian organization, that’s goal was to convert Russia back to Christianity, had his members do an investigation and study as to what happened to those lost ‘Tribes of Israel’. They concluded that after Assyrians defeated Israel and carried those 10 tribes back to Assyria and into slavery, but could never defeat Judah. When the Babylonians came to power and defeated Assyria, the Assyrians set their captives (slaves) free, and since the Babylonians were attacking from the south, the direction home for the 10 tribes that were just set free, and since they did not want to be taken by the Babylonians and made slaves to another nation, they crossed the Bosporus and emmigrated through-out Europe, to become Kings of many nations, as GOD had promised Abraham. From the descendants of those 10 tribes came the emmigrates from Europe to the New World, the Colonies that became the USA. So in a round about way, according to Armand Hammer’s Christian organization, the USA is the descendants of the lost 10 ‘Tribes of Israel’, and explains why the USA is the only ally that Israel has in the entire world. Another reason why we must protect Israel at all costs, despite this BS article!

        • OOOOPPert EEEEpert

          I encourage everyone to read, Herbert W. Armstrong’s classic , “AMERICA & BRITAIN IN PROPHECY” available for free: 1-800-772-8577

          google: Saint Germain, sponsor of America
          Goddess of Liberty

          THE TRUTH SHALL SET YE FREE

        • OOOOPPert EEEEpert

          According to Armstrong, who I believe got it right, the Jews were made up of the Tribe of Judah, 1/2 the tribe of Benjamin, and the Levites , the priestly tribe

          The other 10 tribes settled the free nations of Europe & Scandanavia, including Scotland & Ireland & Wales…..especially the tribe of Dan, who were all over the place, a seafaring tribe that named the places & waters with their tribes, root , DN

          DAN-MARK
          SWE-DAN
          SCAN-DAN-AVIA
          DAN-UBE RIVER

          Go to Ireland & England, and you’ll see, the DN root all over, Dunkirk, Donegan, Donelly, Dunedin, Donovan, Dunminster, etc…..

          DAN in Hebrew means JUDGE…the Gaelic word for Judge is DUNN

    • Karolyn

      Did you not read ANY of the other posts here?

      • Anthony Stevenson

        Yeah and yours and the majority of these post are asinine and tiresome!

      • Karolyn

        And you, Anthony, sound like a real thinking man! NOT!

        • OOOOPPert EEEEpert

          Speaking of thinking…still nobody has quite answered my statement: God promised Abraham’s seed that it would be a Mighty nation & assembly of nations (GREAT BRITAIN& THE COMMONWEALTH) ,a blessing to ALL NATIONS (AMERICA) & the younger (EPHRAIM-AMERICA), would end up more powerful than the older (MANASSEH-GREAT BRITAIN)..in fact, EPHRAIM would be the most powerful nation in history.

          Ancient Israel never fulfilled those prophecies, nor has the modern day one,….The modern day nation is JUDAH, not Israel…even the Israelis know it, for the name AMERICA in Hebrew is actually Land of the Covenant!!!!

          Once again for those who truly have an open mind & seek truth…get a free copy of Herbert W. Armstrong’s “AMERICA & BRITAIN IN PROPHECY”

          1-800-772-8577

          May our Dear Father/Mother God bless, protect & illumine all. Good night!

      • oh oh

        The Jewish encyclopedia and several prominent Jewish leaders admit that Edom is found in modern Jewry. Your Judah theory is stale British Israelite doctrine that has no historical basis.

  • Henry

    Get one thing straight the term Jew as used today usually means anyone from any of the 12 tribes of Israel or member of their faith. Therefore any claim that the Jews in Israel today are only from the tribe of Judah is a fallacy.

    • Henry

      Term Jew in most cases really should be Hebrew.

      • OOOOPPert EEEEpert

        You are all way off!!!

      • oh oh

        The term “Jew” never existed until after the Babylonian captivity when a very small portion of Judah and Benjamin from the former Southern Kingdom of Judah returned to Judea in the 6th century BC. The majority of the Tribes of Judah and Benjamin had been taken captive by the Assyrians decades before with the northern Ten Tribes or remained in Babylon after the Babylonian captivity. For a time, the remnant of Judah and Benjamin who returned to Judea observed the Hebrew law, which forbade Hebrews from mixing with other races. When they violated this law, they were admonished severely by Nehemiah, Ezra and other Hebrew leaders. However, by the time of John Hyrcanus, circa 130 AD, the mixed population had grown.

        The non-Israelite (non-Judahite and non-Benjaminite) portion of the Judeans was composed substantially of Edomites (Idumeans). The Edomites were folded into the Talmudic religion by John Hyrcanus, who for the first time made them members of the congregation and made some of them priests in violation of Hebraic law. This continued until they dominated the political and religious life in Judea. These were the Jews and this set the stage for the corrupt Edomite (non-Judahite) Herodian dynasty, the persecution of Christians and the crucifixion of Christ, who was not a Jew, but a pure descendant of the Tribe of Judah. Christ minced no words in warning us about the Jews, their lies and their father. The Talmudic religion is not the Hebrew faith of Israel; it is a perverse deviation that was justifiably condemned by Christ as the “traditions of the elders.” Christ and the apostles had to avoid the Jews often in fear of their lives.

        For the most part, after the return of the small remnant from Babylon, Judah remained in the southern Judea, while much of the remnant of Benjamin settled in the north, in Galilee. Eleven of the first disciples were pure-blooded Israelites from the Tribe of Benjamin in Galilee. The only exception was Judas, a mixed-blood Edomite from Idumea, south of Jerusalem. The term Judean was merely a political-geograpical term applied to the region by the Romans, but was used by the apostles to designate the remnant of the Children of Israel from the Tribes of Judah and Benjamin and to distinguish them from the Children of the Adversary, the Edomites, who not only conspired against and arranged the murder of Christ, but persecuted the apostles and then Christians for centuries thereafter.

        The sheep among the Judeans heard His voice, converted and became known by His name, “Christians,” while the Jews, in fulfillment of the parable of the bad figs, was scatted in the dispersions between 70 AD and 135 AD, becoming persecuted and a curse to the nations as also foretold in prophesy. The apostles sought out the Lost Sheep who, as James said from Judea, were scattered abroad, and they were found in Corinth, Galatia, Rome and other places where they had settled after the earlier dispersions into Assyria and Babylon. This is why the Apostles were careful to identify them as the Children of the Promise in accordance with the flesh through Issac…so there would be no doubt. The universalist heresies of the Catholic Church and the historically brand new religion called Judeo-Christianity have changed all of that based, not on scripture, but on their own “traditions.”

  • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing Jay

    Jacob had 12 sons. Each of these sons who each formed a tribe in Israel. These were: Reuben, Shimon, Levi, Judah, Issachar, Zebulun, Dan, Naphtali, Gad, Asher, Joseph, and Benjamin. Known to history as the 12 Tribes of Israel, these tribes settled on both sides of the Jordan River.

    After the death of King Solomon, the Hebrew nation split into two kingdoms.

    Two tribes, including the tribe of Judah and the tribe of the Jacob’s youngest son (Benjamin) formed the Southern Kingdom, and the other 10 tribes, centered around Samaria made up the Northern Kingdom of Israel. In the year 722 BC, the Assyrians conquered the Kingdom of Israel and sent the Ten Tribes into Exile. Since then, their fate has been cloaked in a shroud of mystery and legend.

    12 Tribes of Israel

    It all started in Genesis 49 when Jacob divided the birthright. Judah (the ONLY tribe to be called Jews) only got the right to rule and make the laws.

    Joseph got everything else, including all the prophecies and promises to Abraham.

    Joseph’s descendents were the nobility of the 12-tribed nation. If you’ll look at Ezekiel 23, you’ll see that the pre-eminent sister in God’s eyes was Ahola, “the elder”. God immediately clarifies by telling us that Ahola is Samaria, the symbol of the northern kingdom, called the House of Israel.

    When the whole nation of Israel, which included the soon-to-be-called-Jews of the tribe of Judah, split soon after Solomon’s death, it was like Judah seceded from the twelve-tribed union and took Benjamin with them. Israel really stayed pretty much the same, with the Ephraimites in charge. Every time you read House of Israel, or Joseph, Ephraim, Isaac, Samaria and other names it refers to the ten tribes of the northern kingdom (the Nation of Israel).

    Would you believe these are you (Isaiah says; to the “isles afar off”)? Are they descendents of the British Isles, Ireland, the countries of northwest Europe, the United States and even Japan?

    In an irony to Jewish history, could the tribe of Dan have gone to Greece and later to Rome?

    Could descendents of Dan have actually been involved with all the holocausts of Jewish history (Greek, Roman, Inquisition and Nazi Germany)?

    One important link/key is the term Scythians (Celts); “the people who dwell in booths”.

    Did the prophet Jeremiah (a Chief of Iber) die in Ireland?

    Did he travel there in 583-560 BC from Egypt around the same time of the destruction of Jerusalem, with: the scribe Baruch, Ebed-Melech, Tea Tephi (daughter of Zedekiah & heir to the throne-line of Pharez), and the son of the king of Ireland who had been in Jerusalem at the time of the siege?

    Did Jeremiah come to Ireland to build the nation Israel in the Isles of the West and to plant the royal line of David upon Israels throne in the person of Zedekiahs daughter, Tea Tephi?

    Tea Tephi is the name of the most celebrated queen in early Irish history. With her the lion came into Irish heraldry, an emblem of the Israelites, but especially of the tribe of Judah.

    With Tea Tephi also a most remarkable 400 pound stone came to Ireland called the Lia Fail, or stone wonderful, or Stone of Scone upon which the Irish line of kings were crowned until about 500 A.D.

    Thereafter it was carried to Scotland and used as coronation stone there till 1296 A.D. Then Edward I carried it to Westminster Abbey where it has been ever since, until just recently when it was returned to Scotland, as the Coronation Stone of Great Britain.

    Tea Tephi married the Irish monarch, Eiochaid, the Heremonn, thus joining the Pharez and Zarah branches of Judahs royal line, and from them through the Irish and Scotch line of kings one can trace the descent to George VI and show that Davids line did not lapse for Yahweh keep His covenant of salt. (2 Chronicles 13:5)

    Was Jeremiah the elderly white-haired patriarch, sometimes referred to as a “saint,” who came ashore in Ulster in Irish tradition?

    Wasn’t Jeremiah the grandfather of King Zedekiah (last king of Judah); and thus, God’s Trustee of the Bloodline and the Throne of David? From these sources we learn that about 565 B.C., soon after Jeremiah and the kings daughters disappeared in eastern history, there appeared in Ireland at Tara, the seat of the Irish kings, a remarkable and mysterious personage, a prophet named Ollam Fola, who instituted a school of prophets in Ireland.

    From the number of Hebrew words connected with this mysterious personage he is shown to have been a Hebrew prophet. The only Hebrew prophet who disappeared with any such mission as would take him to the Isles of the West, was Jeremiah, whose bust is in Dublin Castle. The name of Jeremiah remains everywhere in those parts even today.

    Was the royal bloodline planted in Ireland?

    Could a female further the bloodline?

    Did Jeremiah bring the ancient Jewish coronation stone to Ireland (was the throne then overturned 3 times, and now is in London?)?

    Was it moved three times (finally to England) in fulfillment of Ezekiel’s prophecy mentioned in chapter 21, verses 25-27?

    Did St. Andrew journey to Scotland?

    Is Israel today Ephraim?

    Is Britain and the United States Manasseh?

    Legend says Ireland was already populated by Hebrews before Jeremiah’s arrival.

    Long prior to 700 B.C. another strong colony called “Tuatha de Danaan” (tribe of Dan) arrived in ships, drove out other tribes, and settled there. Later, in the days of David, a colony of the line of Zarah arrived in Ireland from the Near East. In light of this, imagine how fruitful the Irish potato famine has proven to be…. Or, is all the above a fabrication started via a book (“England the Remnant of Judah.” London, 1861) by British-Israel expositor named Rev. F.R.A. Glover who combined two different people Tea and Tephi from two different time periods? Is the Worldwide Church of God behind furthering this confusion? Or, is it all true??

    Continued: http://bibleprobe.com/lost.htm

    • chuckb

      jay, the jews migrated to eastern europe, settled in russia and germany, originated the communist party, overthrew the russian gov’t. immigrated to the u.s. integrated the roosevelt administration, gathered power through the media and education, took over the democratic party and most labor unions, conned the public into voting for their stooge barry soetoro and now rule the u.s. need you know more.

  • oh oh

    Most of the tribes of Judah and Benjamin were taken captive by the Assyrians from the 46 walled cities and other numerous villages surrounding Jerusalem. One of these dispersions alone accounted for more than 200,000 captives from the Southern Kingdom. The smaller portion left in Jerusalem would have to wait several decades for their captivity by the Babylonians. Like Judeo-Christians, the British Israelites never figured out the difference between Judahites and Jews. Without this understanding, there can be little understanding of some of the covenants and prophesies that affect us the most. According to prophesy, there will be an awakening among Israel and Judah (not the Edomite Jews) as to their true identity. As long as the Edomites can keep us in the dark about this with universalist, dispensational, anti-nomian and replacement heresies, the better for them and the worse for us. They know it, most of us don’t; but this charade won’t last forever.

    • http://none Charlie

      oh oh,,,thanks for your info , I know most all of what you wrote is true. But don’t forget to……….
      Praise King Jesus for Salvation and Healing… Acts 2:38 is salvation…

  • 4204life

    Good article Ben. The only suggestion I would make ; is, we should call all international defense departments, esp. U.S. DOD, WAR Departments. The definiton of war most closely resembles their various funtions. Thiis simple change of words would allow an accurate description and possible change views.

  • Tim Tyson

    Jay, you’ve pretty much have it right, you have done your homework. I can tell, most of you disputing have not read James 1: 5&6 then acted on what it suggests. Then perhaps you all could find understanding of Genesis chapter 17 as a starting point verses 15, 16.

    • OOOOPPert EEEEpert

      Modern day Israel is AMERICA …nation in Middle east is JUDAH!

      • The Buse

        Good luck Anthony, he has been on here for two whole days spouting his fairly tales about America being Israel. America is not Israel and it never will be! Israel is Israel and the Lord knows where they are!

        • Anthony Stevenson

          This OOOOPPert EEEEpert must not have a life; OOOOPPert EEEEpert goes at it all day, every day and says the same old stale crap in circles! The original article’s intent was not a theological argument, but picked up some trolls trying to cram their religious nonsense down everybody’s throats. Real people of faith go by just that, FAITH! Trying to intellectualize and use secular “history” or a book a cult leader wrote, or non-canonized “scripture” undermine people’s faith! Beware anyone who misuses scripture because God’s judgement could be severe!

          • OOOOPPPert EEEPert

            You know Gandhi once said, “I have no problem accepting Jesus as my personal Lord & Savior, it’s just that Christians are not very Christian-like”…it seems you guys fit the bill, name calling judging, etc… I have great faith in the Teachings of the Ascended Masters, and that it is COSMIC TRUTH REVEALED…the true gospel!! Many Christians are also some of the most close-minded people on the planet. Have you read Armstrong’s book? If not, how can you judge it…do you know his group was a cult? Would you ever care to investigate something that might cause you to think, and not be one of those sheeple? But, probably not, because it’s so easy to think you’re saved & let Jesus do it , etc…blah, blah, blah…The Fallen ones set it up that way, to cut you off from the TRUTH, fill you with this arrogance, that there is only one way back to the heart of God, and it is MY WAY OR THE HIGHWAY!

            Also, many times on these sites, the topics morph into other things & issues, I see no problem with that…..All these people talking about Israel & America & they don’t even know which end is which..

            Again, no one has been able to answer the basic question: God promised Abraham his seed would be a great & mighty nation,(AMERICA) & an assembly of nations (GREAT BRITAIN) not just spiritually, but in physical actuality….when was ancient Israel or the modern day counterfeit version ever that?…..It’s simple ANGLO-ISRAELISM answers the question….AMERICA-EPHRAIM…GREAT BRITAIN-MANASSEH

            Even in what they call Israel today they know this, for the HEBREW NAME FOR AMERICA is: “LAND OF THE COVENANT”

            You guys are so cut off spiritually , that you can’t even feel God’s blessings & you live here!

  • The Buse

    Anthony, I can’t understand why he thinks he is smarter then the Lord God Almighty? He is a man!

  • Tim

    James 1:5,6 !

    • HEBREW HARRY

      why?

      • Tim

        Sir H.H, with all due respect, you must not have read it, read it and find out for yourself. Great teachers of the Word exspect students to dig into the Word of G-D to learn the truths of G-D’s word for themselves. It really is the best way to know G-D’s truths. Blessings to You!

      • steve

        tim your talking like obama leaving out the O IN GODS NAME. just like obama when he leaves out UNDER GOD in the pledge of allegiance

        • HEBREW HARRY

          He’s doing that because that is what we Jews do when we spell G-D

  • http://none ron

    There is no treaty between the United States and Israel. There never has been.
    Israel has refused to sign an allied agreement with the United States since it came into being in 1947..
    They have refused the last 6 presidents including Obama.

  • chuck wilson

    if Iran succeeds in taking out Israel, the sights of annihilation will quickly fall on us. Israel is family and this fight is to big for them to handle alone. We are one branch, broken in two. enjoyed the spirited biblical debate, the law is still very much in place, steal from me and you will quickly find out, lol blood ordinances have been done away with, as Christ paid that awesome price for us. and yes, we are under the dispensation of grace . Thank the Father,Son and Holy Spirit.

  • david

    ben,if your brother was attacked by a group of hoodlums,would you not help him.of course you would and you would be very angry they had picked on him.when you have an age old problem between muslims and jews you must choose between right and wrong.muslims want to destroy israel completely and jews want to live in peace.all the groups attacking the US and israel are muslims not jews.who shoots rockets into israel everyday?who kills people by the thousands in the name of allah? we must stand up and defend ourselves and our friends if for no other reason but justice for all the innocent people who have died for their beliefs.

  • Bodo

    All this talk about references from the bible by religious kooks regarding the geopolitical situation today in the middle east is annoying. What was written in the bible 2,000 years ago is irrelevant today. We need to analyze the situation in a sane and objective manner, without a religious spin. All the muslim nations surrounding Israel consider them to be an occupying force sitting on Palestinian land, and until that changes there will never be peace in the region.

    • http://naver samurai

      Care to show how the Bible is irrelevent in this situation? FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

      You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot.

  • Bill

    Israel has received a good deal of assistance from us, However, it hasn’t been a one way street. We have received priceless technology, militarily and otherwise. For those who discount or deny this, clearly have an agenda. In all its wars Israel stood alone in the blood it shed. They haven’t asked for American lives. If you lived in a neighborhood like that and the most extreme enemies were clearly and continuing to be obsessed with your demise, would you not consider preemptive measures for your survival? Why are you so bothered by a tiny sliver of a country attempting to exist? Without their existence, that huge contentious Muslim landmass would devote that much more attention to bringing the nightmare here and removing America from the face of the earth, their ultimate goal. Remember the caliphate. Just look at the numerous Muslim conflicts persisting throughout the word. What does the future portend for many Western European countries transforming into an extension of that ultimate caliphate? The obsession with Israel is highly suspect.

    • OOOOPPert EEEEpert

      Most Muslims see Israel & USA as one evil entity…their worst enemies are their own secular & spiritual leaders…Israel has also stabbed America in the back, too, stealing secrets from us with spies & ignoring our advice, etc…The Mossad is very powerful.

      The Jews should’ve taken the Island of Madagascar when the UN offered it..rather than some BS “Homeland”, where they had to force others off their lands, people that had lived there for hundreds of years..their lives would’ve been better, now they have to guard everything all the time…the old adage, “he who guards everything, guards nothing”…..kinda like the TSA.. All this guarding & occupying has taken a toll on them, and they will do anything to survive, including starting a world war!

      I don’t want to see a war, but it’s time to butt out there & throughout the world, keep our military strong, just in case & let these other nations grow up on their own….nation building? what a waste of blood & gold!!!! For Heaven;sake, Afghanistan is a medieval nation full of tribes that engage in culturally acceptable homosexual pedophilia (which we have been silent about) & whose corrupt central government is behind the production of 90% of the world’s opium that ends up being shot into the veins, or snorted up the nose of young Americans…WE ARE MAKING A TON OF BAD KARMA THERE!!!

  • Bodo

    The US needs to vacate Afghanistan as quickly as possible, lest the door will hit us from behind if we drag our feet. We should also sever all our ties with the middle-east, else sooner or later we’ll get dragged into a world war when Israel lashes out at its muslim neighbors, either preemptively or defensively. We don’t have any interests there, and don’t need another war we can ill afford. We’ll always be able to buy oil from whoever becomes the landlord, if we first don’t piss them off by taking sides in their regional conflicts.

  • Larry

    Israel is around 5 million Jews & is the size of a postage stamp within a football field that consists of over a billion Muslims, most of whom are militant nut jobs! To advocate turning our back on a long time allie like Israel is disgusting.
    While I agree with quite a lot of the ideas found in this newsletter, your continuing international positions are truly frightening & this current article is the final straw. I will be leaving this site once this response is posted.

    • Frank

      Larry-Your comment is rather funny. Do you blame India for having 800 million Hindus?! That part of the world is full of Hindus. That does NOT give the right to 5 million Jews to go and ‘settle’ in India. Same for the part of the world full of Muslims in the neart, middle easts and norther Africa. Canada’s Jews BELONG TO CANADA, they CAN NOT occupy the USA or any portion thereof. Yes, we can turn our back to Israel, what are we getting out of them except draining our treasuring of $5billion EVERY YEAR while we are unemployed?

      • HEBREW HARRY

        Don’t forget, too we gave & are still giving the Palestinians billions too,…remember how they celebrated on 9/11????? They were burning our flag & stomping on it while wearing Nike hats & blue jeans…LOL!!!! Remember how Arafat’s wife drove around Paris in her choice of 5 different Mercedes Benz, paid for by our taxpayers….Arafat was a worse enemy of his people than the Israelis….you know why the Israelis have such great intelligence? They use a lot our billions to pay snitches for info…

        I say like Ron Paul..the heck with both of them & rest of world right now…we are going broke, let’s get our own house in order & let them all figure it out!!!

  • http://yahoo Robert

    You got it wrong. We are Israels liittle brother. Just because we are big and fat and tough dosen’t mean that we are there big brother. I also am leaving this site You remind me of Obama talking out of both side of his mouth. See you at judgmeant day!

    • Frank

      We are neither Israel’s brother, nor are they our brother. Israel is sucking billions of our tax dollars while MILLIONS of unemployed Americans are looking for jobs and homeless.

  • Frank

    The western world is rather funny! It goes after a country trying to acquire nuclear weapons, but did not go after a Jewish terrorist group, the Haghana, that ALREADY HAS about 200 nuclear warheads! No, Israel is NOT the allie fo the USA. It has no oil to give us, no naval basis for our navy like Qatar is offering us or Saudia Arabia’s Dhahran airforce base. Israel’s democracy is the last of our concern. Their democracy is murdering men, women and children. Is this democracy! I wish my American Jewish neighbor in LA would stop saying “I’m Jewish” and start saying “I’m an American.” Same for those from France, Italy, Spain, Lithuania and Latvia. Let the Palestinians go back and live in peace in Palestine without having to share it with Lithuanians, regardless if Jews or Christians. The conflict did not start in 1967 or in 1948. It started in 1899 when Theodore Hertzel was shopping around for a country to settle his fellow Jews in, he considered Uganda and south America. Palestine is for the Palestinians, just like Egypt for the Egyptians.

    • HEBREW HARRY

      I agree, it’s disgusting how Jews vote on how the pres. will treat Israel…..I AM an American first & foremost…I’m also a Messianic Jew who believes in Jesus!!!

      But, Israel is a legit democracy..they are not perfect like USA, but at least they do have a semblance of the 4 Sacred Freedoms…Press, Religion, Speech & Assembly….many Israelis do support the Palestinian cause…..it’s too late to give them back their land, however, like in USA, with Native Americans!!

  • http://PLD FRENCHIE

    I HAVE TO AGREE WITH BEN CRYSTAL ON THIS ONE, AS IT’S THE SAME THING I’VE BEEN SAYING FOR YEARS. MAYBE FOR SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT REASONS, BUT IN THE SAME VEIN NONE-THE-LESS. IT’S TIME WE LET ISRAEL STAND ON THEIR OWN. HOW MANY BILLIONS PER YEAR DO WE CONTRIBUTE TO THEIR DEFENSE ? JEWS IN AMERICA ARE ALLOWED TO GO SERVE IN THE ISRAELI ARMY WITHOUT GIVING UP THEIR AMERICAN CITIZENSHIP. SO LET AMERICAN JEWS GO FIGHT FOR ISRAEL IF THEY’RE SO ALL-FIRED CONCERNED ABOUT THE JEWISH STATE. I ASSURE YOU I COULDN’T GO SERVE IN THE BUNDESWEHR (GERMAN ARMY) WITHOUT GIVING UP MY CITIZENSHIP, EVEN THOUGH MY HERITAGE IS GERMAN. AND DON’T START WITH THE “NAZI” CRAP JUST BECAUSE I HAVE GERMAN BLOOD & DON’T SUPPORT BACKING ISRAEL EVERY TIME THEY START SH!T WITH THEIR NEIGHBORS. I AM NOT, NOR HAVE I EVER BEEN A NAZI. I JUST THINK THEY’D LEARN A LITTLE BIT ABOUT SELF SUFFICIENCY IF WE WERE TO QUIT LETTING THEM RUN BEHIND “BIG BROTHER’S” COAT TAILS EVERYTIME THEY SUCKER PUNCH THE KID NEXT DOOR, THAT’S ALL I’M SAYING. IT’S LIKE GIVING THEM M-16′S WHEN THE KID NEXT DOOR’S ONLY GOT A SLING-SHOT & THEN STEPPING IN TO FIGHT THE BATTLE FOR THEM ANYHOW. AT WHAT POINT DOES THE ABSURDITY OF IT ALL FINALLY SHINE THROUGH ? SOONER OR LATER, YOU HAVE TO LET YOUR LITTLE BROTHER GET HIS ASS KICKED TO EITHER TEACH HIM TO FIGHT FOR HIMSELF, OR FIND A DIFFERENT WAY TO DEAL WITH HIS PROBLEMS. LOOK, THERE HAS BEEN WAR IN THE MIDDLE EAST FOR THOUSANDS OF YEARS & IT’S NEVER GOING TO STOP UNTIL SOMEBODY FINALLY WINS HANDS-DOWN. IF HISTORY HAS PROVEN NOTHING ELSE, IT’S PROVEN THAT “BEYOND REASONABLE DOUBT”. THE ONLY SURE FIRE WAY TO STOP IT IS TO TURN THE WHOLE MIDDLE EAST INTO A GLASS PARKING LOT & I DON’T SEE THAT HAPPENING ANY TIME SOON. SO, BEARING THAT IN MIND, I THINK THE SMART THING FOR US TO DO IS JUST BACK OUT OF THAT WHOLE MONEY PIT & LET ‘EM FIGHT IT OUT AMONGST THEMSELVES. WE’VE ALREADY SPENT WAY TOO MUCH IN AMERICAN LIVES & MONEY OVER THERE IN THE MIDDLE EAST & BASICALLY GOTTEN NOWHERE FOR OUR INVESTMENT. IT MAKES NO SENSE TO KEEP STICKING OUR NOSES INTO A SITUATION WHERE WE CAN ONLY LOSE & THE WINNER’S EITHER GOING TO HATE US, OR MOOCH OFF OF US FOR THE REMAINDER OF IT’S EXISTENCE. I SAY CUT OUR LOSSES & BACK OUT OF IT BEFORE WE LOSE MORE THAN WE CAN AFFORD. AS IF WE HAVEN’T ALREADY !!! JUST SAYIN’……

    • Bodo

      Amen to that! The US is broke, and to rattle our sabres with the intention of provoking a war with Iran is exactly the wrong thing to do. We should be buying oil from Iran, not bullying them, while the cost of oil is going up. Our foreign policy is bordering on insanity.

      • HEBREW HARRY

        We should drill our own oil, we gots tons of it

      • http://PLD FRENCHIE

        HAVE TO AGREE WITH HARRY ABOUT DRILLING OUR OWN OIL, IT’S BEEN DISCOVERED THAT WE’VE GOT A WHOLE BUNCH OF IT. CHECK OUT THE BAKKEN OIL FIELDS FOR EXAMPLE. THERE’S MORE BUT I CAN’T REMEMBER THEIR NAMES RIGHT OFF HAND. WE SHOULDN’T BE EITHER BULLYING IRAN, OR BUYING OIL FROM THEM EITHER – WE SHOULD BE DRILLING OUR OWN, AND/ OR BUYING FROM CANADA & STARVING IRAN INTO SUBMISSION. WHY GIVE THEM OUR MONEY ? IT’S LIKE THROWING GAS ON A FIRE. WHY GIVE OUR ENEMIES MONEY TO FIGHT US ? NO GOOD OUTCOME THERE, BRO. BUT JUST LIKE THE PEN, THE DOLLAR IS MIGHTIER THAN THE SWORD. LESS CASUALTIES ON OUR SIDE AS WELL. AS FOR THE INSANITY OF OUR FOREIGN POLICY, WELL….. THAT KIND OF SPEAKS FOR ITSELF, HUH ???

        • HEBREW HARRY

          They say we have more natural gas in America than rest of world put together…God has certainly blessed us with the best of resources…but, the Power Elite won’t let us get off this stuff….while global warming is nonsense (see Lord Monckton), there is no doubt our energy sources POLLUTE the environment, (why the greenies don’t keep hammering on that I’ll never know)… but both sides are in bed with oil lobbysists & the oil lobbyists are in bed with the oil cartels & sheiks, etc….

          All one has to do is research the Open Fuel Standard Act, which would’ve given us a choice of regular gas, ethanol or methanol, and started on the road to cleaner renewable energy, but there were corrupt ones on both sides that blocked it from even coming to a vote! Brazil has been running their cars on alcohol for over 20 years, cars made in USA like Ford & Chevys, yet Obama goes to Brazil & signs a deal to buy oil from his socialist buddy, da Silva…..INSANE!!!!!!

  • Joyceann

    Israel has never been alone and never will be alone as long as there is one of God’s own here in the USA. We gave our word and we keep it. Presidents come and go but Christians keep their words and we will help our Christian brothers to the last.

    • Bodo

      Please speak for yourself, unless you have some children of your own that you’d like to offer up so they can join the military, go to another unjustified war, and come back all maimed, or in a body bag. Also, who are you “talking” to, which Christian brothers are you referring to helping ??? Are you confused?

    • http://denmin912.wordpress.com irishenforcer

      You do realize jews hate christians right? They do not believe in or on Jesus Christ and actually hate him as well.Judaism has nothing to do with christianity whatsoever.You better wake up and fast.To deny my son is to deny me the father and is the spirit of ANTI-CHRIST!!!

      • http://naver samurai

        Don’t forget Irish that the first Chrstians were Jews. There is also a group that calls themelves “Jews for Jesus.” FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

        You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot.

  • George

    So we can help Iraq and Afghanistan create legitimate governments from scratch, and get our young men and women killed by those who hate us in spite of all the help we’ve given them – but we’re not supposed to stand behind an America friendly country that is attacked daily by its neighbors.
    Oh, did I mention that they like us in spite of our lack of support lately? And did I mention that they already have a stable government and haven’t asked us to come and die alongside their men, women, and children?
    And how many Jews took part in 9/11 and Ft. Hood (sorry, I forgot that one was office violence, not terrorism)? And how many Jews have we caught with bombs in their shoes and underwear?
    If we don’t stand with our friends, then why bother to help our enemies?

    • HEBREW HARRY

      The world hates the Jews…look at the UN, if we got to war with Israel, we will get attacked by terrorists for sure again

  • http://none Charlie

    King Jesus is a blood line Judahite The Bible is all about Him and His training program… So…
    Praise King Jesus for Salvation and Healing … Acts 2:38 is salvation…

  • ThePatriot

    Perhaps you would have also stood idly by during Hitler’s rein. Those of us who know history, aren’t so quick to have it repeated.

  • Dennis

    Are you flippin kiddin me? Saying That Israel is like a brother to us? Id sugeest you read the babylonian talmud.It is modern judaism today.If your not a jew you are goyim(cattle) to them to be used.In fact they make Nazis and racism look like childs play.Hitler? Aere you kiddin me.The jews in Russia killed twice as many white christians in Russia than Hitler could dream of.All i see spouted here is history written by the victors which isnt history atall but propaganda.Israel is not our friend brother or any of the like but in fact our ebnemy.They are the biggest spyer of the U.S. hands down.

    • HEBREW HARRY

      It’s true they are the biggest spyers on us…they are so focused on preserving their nation, they will do anything & the Mossad virtually has….and I’m Jewish & I can see it, but I’m a proud American, above all & I say we stay the heck out of it !!!!

      • Tim

        It will not be Israel that will get fried, but it will be Egypt, It is in the bible, see if you can find it.

  • Elizabeth

    Isn’t it amazing that the USA can send troops to Bosnia, Kuwate ,Iraq, Aftganastan, Pakistan, for what ? To save them from bloody dictators, only to be replaced with another bloody leader ? These are people who hate us. Yet, when it comes to Israel, who has to fight for the very right to exist, America’s leaders, not the American people but our leaders, say we can’t help Israel. You say ” billions” have been given to Israel. We have also given ” billions to Egypt and to the Palistinains and who knows who else in the Middle East. Our tax dollars even fund the rebuilding of mosques in the Middle East…. for people who hate us………….People who rejoiced, celebrated and passed out candy afterthe 9-11
    attack. We have no friends in the Middle East but Israel, for all others we try to buy their friendship . Thank Heaven for our past Presidents who supported and helped Israel.
    We as a nation were Blessed for that. And that goes back to when GOD said to Abraham “I will bless those who bless you and curse those who curse you.”
    Guess what ,that promise still stands today. Of all the countries we need to stand with and befriend it is tiny Israel, 40 miles wide and 300 miles in length.

  • Chris

    It is said that the antichrist will come from the Middle East………..the antichrist is already there………it is the violence. The Middle East needs to be turned into an ocean, then (except for some loonies running around) the world can live in peace.

    • KENYAN KRUSHER

      The anti-Christ is here & he’s from Kenya

    • Bert Cundle Sr.

      NOT From the Bible… but the Spirit of Wisdome: “Government” of more than one person is the Anti Christ!. ( Juries, Congress, e.c.t.) Christ means, Anointed “ONE”!

  • Noah

    The little brother example was cute, however, I believe we have a serious responsibility to stand up for Israel and stick with them throught thick or thin. We can certainly know, according to the holy Word of God that when all countries turn against Israel the end is near according to the Words of Jesus.

    “And when ye shall see Jerusalem compassed with armies, then know that the desolation thereof is nigh” (Luke 21:20).

  • Bodo

    All the biblical talk is irrelevant and very annoying. The US can’t afford to be involved in another war, for any reason, except in the event we are faced with an attack on our shores. We don’t need another war, so if Israel wants to attack Iran, they should be told: “little brother”, you’re on your own, fight your own battles. No US boots on the ground and no aerial support. Anyone who suggests the US should get involved in a war with Iran is Anti-American, because it would push us into a deep recession, or even a depression. Besides, another pre-emptive war smells like another Iraq to me.

    • Bert Cundle Sr.

      The people that are led by Bible Lituture, are Retarded Lambs! Sure Wars have been in the past… Truth is: War is only a Battle, unless only fought ONCE! OUR DEFENSE, IS MORE IMPORTANT, THAN VICTORY IN BATTLE, ANY WHERE ELSE!

    • h

      You are absolutely correct !!

    • HEBREW HARRY

      AMEN, Brother !!!

  • Bert Cundle Sr.

    When I Put My nose in someone elses affairs… I get the black eye!

    • Bert Cundle Sr.

      BOARDERS ARE GOOD !!! For Good Reason! I Think about the THOUSANDS of Police, Shareffs, Martials, Rangers, Army, National Guard. Defending GOVERNMENT!!!
      I wonder where is ” OUR” Defense? The Criminal Courts Find us Gulty of Legislative Violations, & Deprive us of our Rights, The Law Makers Make More & More Laws to Deprive us of our Rights. WE HAVE A BIGGER PROBLEM HERE IN THE U.S.of A., THAN ANY THREAT FROM THE OUTSIDE!!! CITIZENS ARE BLENDED WITH FORIGNERS, PROTECTED BY GOVERNMENT & LANGUAGES CHANGEING ALL AROUND, TILL ENGLISH IS THE MINORITY!!!

  • Chris

    No American wants to be at war in the middle east, but this is where your evil resides……..I am not for Obama, but I do agree with what he said in that we can’t just back down after the foothold we have already attained because that would mean americans have died for nothing. I don’t think we should let that evil run amok to become a stronger adversary because then it could be too late……..I feel that “ALL” good countries should put forth a concerted effort to get rid of the scum of the earth once and for all.

    • KENYAN KRUSHER

      Do you not realize that the Interloper in the White House has contradicted himself again?…by setting a timetable to get out of Afghanistan, irregardless if the way the war is going, the Taliban will just wait it out & take over as soon as we leave…all that young blood & gold lost & all those young men & women scarred for life!! It would’ve been better if he just withdrew from the day he took office, I would agree with that, this war is bringing bad karma upon America & you can’t build a nation there & it is a cross border war & the supposed “ally” who owns the other border is a back-stabber….we are propping up a corrupt drug dealing leader & his family & saying nothing about the culturally acceptable homosexual pedophilia that is rampant…but if we stayed this long & he really wants to win it, then you can’t set artificial timetables like this

      “There is no middle ground in war” – Sir Winston Churchill (remember, he’s the guy whose statue Obama returned to England right from the start of his nightmarish term)

      • Bert Cundle Sr.

        So… NUKE the entire Middle east & Vatagan & Mosks, Churches,Temples & Burn All Religious Books. To end Religious “Battles”?

      • Bert Cundle Sr.

        Oboma has the athority to bring our troops home… Then it is his responsibility of any injureies, or Deaths, of the ones left. { Remember his Prommices before his election…)

    • Bodo

      The middle east seems to be taking care of itself quite nicely. After all, the Arab Spring has toppled the evil leaders with little or no direct (boots on the ground) help from the west. The others will follow in due time, if warranted. We don’t need to be involved, the muslim population can police themselves within each country. Even if war breaks out between them, why should we care and why get involved in a regional conflict, or even in a civil war, when we will only be hated in the end for intruding. Even if we “won” the war, we’d be labeled as an occupying force, and hated for it, as we are loathed now in Afghanistan and Iraq. We should cut our losses, and stay out of any potential regional conflict in the middle east.

      • KENYAN KRUSHER

        You got it wrong!!! the Arab Spring has gotten rid of the devils we know, for worse devils, The Muslim Brotherhood & Islamic radicals who will make things less free with their crazy Sharia crap…especially for women & Christians & dissidents

      • Bodo

        @ KENYAN KRUSHER ” the Arab Spring has gotten rid of the devils we know, for worse devils “. There’s no proof of that, and even if it were true, why should the US care? It’s not our business. Let the arabs take care of themselves. We don’t need to be “nation building”, it’s thankless and too expensive. We’ve got enough problems right here at home, so let’s build our nation instead of some foreign country. We have 1 out of 6 people living below the poverty line, and their numbers are increasing. There are 16 million unemployed people in the US many of them long term unemployed. The suicide rate in our military is higher than the numbers of those being killed in combat in Afghanistan, likely because they see the senselessness of being in a thankless war, where the “friendlies” turn against the US on a regular basis. I say we should learn our lesson, cut our losses and leave the middle east and bring home all the troops to defend our country.

        • KENYAN KRUSHER

          I agree with you ..and Ron Paul, we are going broke, stop “helping out” all over the world, & let them figure it out!

    • Bert Cundle Sr.

      One groups hero… is another groups Ogre… ” Fight Permoters”… Realize to get a show; that appeases the sporting croud. get Two opposites or Simmalerities tell them that the other is going to attack them. you better win… or you will be the looser! ( Colosseum.)
      Today: Media Theate…

      • http://none Charlie

        Bert,,,when is Obadiah going to happen ??

      • Bert Cundle Sr.

        Charlie : Most likely… every thing has happened many times since… with small or big varriances. A little more moderen than the last.

      • http://none Charlie

        Bert,,, The people called , Edomites , in Obadiah as being destroyed are still here on planet earth ,,,so,,,you’re goofy or I don’t know who the Edomites are today … So, you tell us who the
        Edomites are today ….OK?

      • Bert Cundle Sr.

        Charlie: [ Edomites.] Were Non Conformers… To Change.

      • Bert Cundle Sr.

        Charlie: And / Or “Loosers, in battle.”

      • Bert Cundle Sr.

        I’ve been reading the Encyclopeda… about Edomites. May differ from 0badiah; but 60 a.d. Romans Concured Edom… beacuse they let their guard down…

        • I AM ALPHA & OMEGA

          Praise Jesus Forever & Ever !!!! Hail Mary !!!!! Archangel Michael Protect us in Armageddon!!!

          God is the ONLY Solution to every personal, national & planetary challenge!!

      • Bodo

        Dear Lord protect us from religious fanatics, for they are more abundant than the grass in the fields, and less astute than a flock of sheep.

      • Bert Cundle Sr.

        To: I AM ALPHA & OMEGA

        August 27, 2012 at 7:53 pm

        God is the ONLY Solution to every personal, national & planetary challenge!!
        ————————————————————————————————————-
        The use of the word “God” is the Root of the Problem!
        No one can speak for God! Or say What God wants! Or impose as God!
        Make Peace the Goal… Respect the Rights of others… Be Defensive not Aggressive!

        P.S. Alpha & Omega Translated: Adom & Eve

        • http://katrael.wordpress.com Katrael

          Bert Cundle Sr., to some degree you are right about the word god being a problem as it refers to a pagan deity Gath who was the god of fortune. On the other hand, knowing the plans of YHWH is simple because He tells His people what He’s going to do ahead of time so they can prepare and those that don’t heed His warnings suffer. We know what YHWH wants because He’s told us and the problem is that most people want to do what pleases them and not Him.

          • OOOOPPert EEEEpert

            INNER MEANING OF GOD: “GEOMETRY OF DIVINITY”

          • Anthony Stevenson

            Oh, brother!

          • OOOOPPert EEEEpert

            INNER MEANING OF GEOMETRY= “GOD’S ENERGY, “OM”, THEOS RULES IN YOU”

          • http://katrael.wordpress.com Katrael

            OOOOPPert EEEEpert, I feel that you are a sincere person and I read a previous post of yours that said you loved the truth. So do I. I don’t like to use the word god no matter what anyone claims it means. I know where that name came from and that YHWH doesn’t want us to use the names of other elohim and he clearly has a name and want’s us to use it. I don’t mind writing the name God but I don’t like to say it. There are warnings about using the names of other elohim and here’s one:

            Exo 23:13 And in allH3605 things thatH834 I have saidH559 untoH413 you be circumspect:H8104 and make no mentionH2142 H3808 of the nameH8034 of otherH312 gods (elohim),H430 neitherH3808 let it be heardH8085 out ofH5921 thy mouth.H6310

            Exo 3:15 And ElohimH430 saidH559 moreoverH5750 untoH413 Moses,H4872 ThusH3541 shalt thou sayH559 untoH413 the childrenH1121 of Israel,H3478 יהוהH3068 ElohimH430 of your fathers,H1 the ElohimH430 of Abraham,H85 the ElohimH430 of Isaac,H3327 and the ElohimH430 of Jacob,H3290 hath sentH7971 me untoH413 you: thisH2088 is my nameH8034 for ever,H5769 and thisH2088 is my memorialH2143 unto all generations.H1755 H1755

            These quotes are from the KJV and I’ve included the Strong’s reference numbers so that you could look up the word gods and the words “the Lord” to see what words they were translated and should have been transliterated from.

            There are plenty of places to find information about the name god but here’s a good one:
            http://www.bibleanswerstand.org/God.htm.

            Be well and prosper

          • OOOOPPert EEEEpert

            It’s quite simple…do you want to be like the misguided, who invented “Adonai” & choose not to speak to God by His rightful name?

            Moses asked & God replied: “MY NAME IS, I AM THAT I AM”…no beginning , no ending, perpetual life!

            Hence, when Jesus said; “I AM THE WAY”…”I AM THE TRUTH”….”I AM THE LIFE”….He was saying my higher self, my Divine Self, not the human Jesus, the Christ in me is these things & as Jesus said, “THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN IS IN YOU”..and that is because just like HIm, you have a “I AM PRESENCE”…that is your higher Self ..thus, scientists have proven the effectiveness of prayer & affirmations..and ALL LIFE IS ONE, thus when say, for example; I AM PERFECTION IN ACTION IN ALL I DO”…you are invoking the power of Heaven & all the saints & angels, because all is ONE…never use ‘I AM” in a negative way, never say “I AM ANGRY”, etc…..If you need money, you can say, “I AM ALL THE ABUNDANCE I NEED TODAY”, etc…..

            INNER MEANING OF AMERICA: “I AM RACE”

          • http://katrael.wordpress.com Katrael

            OOOOPPert EEEEpert, most people never wonder about the world they live in or the world within themselves. They are too busy being busy with living; earning a living to have time. The infinite is within each one of us. If you cut something in half, say an apple, you have two pieces that are each a whole unto themselves and can then be divided again. Theoretically this can be done indefinitely. Even the atoms and sub atomic particles can then be divided. The reverse is also true. We are separate but we can be added together to become a whole. This can be done indefinitely and so we can see ourselves as part of something much bigger than ourselves.

            I do have an open mind but sometimes it takes time before I can integrate a new part into my life. Kinda like trying to fit pieces of a puzzle together it just takes me some time.

            I like what you said about making negative statements about ourselves. I’ve had problems dealing with this in the past as I used to suffer from a severe form of self centeredness: low self esteem. I could only see my failures as failures and not the learning experiences that they are. Each failure was more proof of my low self worth. Now I see all of my experiences as training for the day when I will have unlimited access to unlimited creative power. It’s possible for all of us to have access to this power but not likely that all will. Be well and prosper

          • OOOOPPert EEEEpert

            That is why one must forgive..ourselves & others, because that is not our Real Selves doing these things, but the ego-driven self….and only things of reality hold immortality. Try playing around with these affirmations using “I AM”, and see what happens..thoughts are powerful things they have energies that go out into the universe, whether they are good or negative, thus as Jung stated there is a collective unconsciousness, a mass karma of darkness hanging over the earth that we have all taken a part in adding to…anytime you send this darkness to your fellow man, it happens, even in thoughts…thus Jesus said, “DO NOT LET THE SUN GO DOWN ON YOUR WRATH”….make peace with yourself & others, and send them & yourself love. We are all divine beings, (PSALM 82.6)

            INNER MEANING OF UNIVERSE: “YOU & I VERSE”

            Have you ever heard of Eckart Tolle? He has written 2 of the most important books in the last 100 years. “THE POWER OF NOW” AND “THE NEW EARTH”….I highly recommend them. ….If you do read them, read “The Power of Now” first. Some of the best teachings about binding the human, ego-driven Not-self.

          • http://katrael.wordpress.com Katrael

            OOOOPPert EEEEpert, Thank you for the information here and a in a previous post. Hopefully I’ll get the chance to read all of this information soon. YHWH seems to be leading me to things that most don’t consider. I also agree about our thoughts being mental energies that go out in waves that touches many things and influences many things. I have been blessed with enough time for reflection on these things. Be well and prosper.

          • OOOOPPert EEEEpert

            Good Luck..VAYA CON DIOS…..BTW, scientists are proving many of these spiritual things do in fact have an effect on the physical world & that everything is alive & has a consciousness & intelligence, even thoughts & feelings!

          • http://katrael.wordpress.com Katrael

            OOOOPPert EEEEpert, I agree and how could mental or spiritual energy be any different from any other energy when it comes to getting things done? After all E = mc2. This equation doesn’t distinguish one energy form from another.

          • OOOOPPert EEEEpert

            God is Light, all Energy in all of Cosmos is GOD…..God is Omniscient, Omnipresent & Omnipotent!!! The HOLY SPIRIT pervades all (OMNIPRESENT), THE SON knows all (OMNISCIENT) & THE FATHER is all powerful (OMNIPOTENT)

            It is the same as the Hindu,”BRAHMA, VISHNU & SHIVA”

          • http://katrael.wordpress.com Katrael

            OOOOPPert EEEEpert, this came to mind about your comment about all things having a consciousness:

            The Scriptures: Gen 4:10 And He said, “What have you done? The voice of your brother’s blood cries out to Me from the ground.
            Gen 4:11 “And now you are cursed from the earth, which has opened its mouth to receive your brother’s blood from your hand.

            Rom 8:19 For the intense longing1 of the creation eagerly waits for the revealing of the sons of Elohim. Footnote: 1Lit. anxiously looking with outstretched head.
            Rom 8:20 For the creation was subjected to futility, not from choice, but because of Him who subjected it, in anticipation,
            Rom 8:21 that the creation itself also shall be delivered from the bondage to corruption into the esteemed freedom of the children of Elohim.
            Rom 8:22 For we know that all the creation groans together, and suffers the pains of childbirth together until now.

            All of this could just be a metaphor or it can be literal and the reader has to decide. There are probably plenty more references in the Scriptures than this but these came to mind first.

          • OOOOPPert EEEEpert

            As the Kabbalah shows many things in bible can be literal & metaphor, I like what you dug up here…I’m sure there are other parts of bible that can reinforce that everything is alive with the sacred fire breath of God, the potent spark of Creation, for all exist in His/Her bosom..Saint Francis of Assisi as many know loved the animals & talked to them all the time, as if they were souls just like him. There was a prayer he had that went like this:

            “Praise God from who all blessings flow, Praise Him ALL CREATURES HERE BELOW, Praise Him above ye Heavenly Hosts, Praise Him, Father, Son & Holy Ghost.”

          • http://katrael.wordpress.com Katrael

            OOOOPPert EEEEpert, There may be an example for just about anything that someone can think of in the Scriptures: You probably are familiar with this story:

            Num 22:26 And the Messenger of יהוה went further, and stood in a narrow place where there was no way to turn aside, right or left.
            Num 22:27 And when the donkey saw the Messenger of יהוה, she lay down under Bilʽam. So Bilʽam’s displeasure burned, and he beat the donkey with his staff.
            Num 22:28 Then יהוה opened the mouth of the donkey, and she said to Bilʽam, “What have I done to you, that you have beaten me these three times?”
            Num 22:29 And Bilʽam said to the donkey, “Because you have mocked me. I wish there were a sword in my hand, for I would have killed you by now!”
            Num 22:30 And the donkey said to Bilʽam, “Am I not your donkey on which you have ridden, ever since I became yours, to this day? Was I ever known to do so to you?” And he said, “No.”
            Num 22:31 Then יהוה opened Bilʽam’s eyes, and he saw the Messenger of יהוה standing in the way with His drawn sword in His hand. And he bowed his head and fell on his face.

            Luk 19:38 saying, “ ‘Blessed is the Sovereign who is coming in the Name of יהוה!’ Peace in heaven and esteem in the highest!”
            Luk 19:39 And some of the Pharisees from the crowd, said to Him, “Teacher, rebuke Your taught ones.”
            Luk 19:40 But He answering, said to them, “I say to you that if these shall be silent, the stones would cry out.”

            Creation must be alive in a way we don’t yet understand.

          • http://katrael.wordpress.com Katrael

            OOOOPPert EEEEpert, E=mc2. Matter and energy are the same thing. Everything emits energy and the atoms themselves are alive and their parts move we know this because that’s how we stimulate electricity.

          • OOOOPPert EEEEpert

            You must understand this Cosmic Law, that man is a co-creator with God & that creation can also use that sacred energy given us to create darkness as well as Light, it can be misused… hence there is some life on this planet that has come about, not from God but from the the astral plane from the Fallen ones misuse of genetic engineering in past Golden ages like Atlantis..(THE FLOOD OF NOAH WAS THE SINKING OF ATLANTIS)…also man’s darkness can affect nature & trees & plants…they feel the negative vibes, for ALL IS ALIVE…for example Rose bushes never had thorns in the beginning, they grew them as a defense mechanism against mankind’s misuse of energy..Thus, it is a sacred symbol that Jesus was crucified & made to wear a crown of thorns, as he too bore the stains of mankind!

            Man was created to take dominion over the earth, but has misused it, how can he rule the earth, if he first cannot rule himself? the present state of the earth is no reflection upon God, but upon mankind’s use of ego instead of the Light within!

            God did not create the pig, it was created by using human genes crossed with another animal…God did not create rats, or mosquitos, pests, etc…mankind did either intentionally or they grew out of nature from his misuse of free will.

          • http://katrael.wordpress.com Katrael

            OOOOPPert EEEEpert, I agree that the present state of the earth is no reflection on YHWH. The first two people Adam and Chawwah didn’t understand lies, evil or death and had no experience. They were placed in the garden of pleasure and delight (that’s really what Aiden/Eden means) and the tree was put there. YHWH knew that mankind would need the experience of Evil and death before he could make proper decisions so he purposely put the Tree of the Knowledge of good and evil there knowing they would partake. Six thousand years of experience with making incorrect decisions and now we are ready for the next phase of one thousand years without evil to influence us then I believe that most of mankind will be faced with making a choice:

            The Scriptures: Deu 30:19 “I have called the heavens and the earth as witnesses today against you: I have set before you life and death, the blessing and the curse. Therefore you shall choose life, so that you live, both you and your seed,
            Deu 30:20 to love יהוה your Elohim, to obey His voice, and to cling to Him – for He is your life and the length of your days – to dwell in the land which יהוה swore to your fathers, to Aḇraham, to Yitsḥaq, and to Yaʽaqoḇ, to give them.”

            I heard this before that YHWH didn’t create all of those creatures you mentioned and you could be correct about that. I don’t know? I know they exist and that their nature will one day change or they will be purged/cleansed from the earth.

            Isa 11:6 And a wolf shall dwell with the lamb, and a leopard lie down with the young goat, and the calf and the young lion and the fatling together, and a little child leads them.
            Isa 11:7 And cow and bear shall feed, their young ones lie down together, and a lion eat straw like an ox.
            Isa 11:8 And the nursing child shall play by the cobra’s hole, and the weaned child shall put his hand in the adder’s den.
            Isa 11:9 They do no evil nor destroy in all My set-apart mountain, for the earth shall be filled with the knowledge of יהוה as the waters cover the sea1. Footnote: 1Hab. 2:14.
            Isa 11:10 And in that day there shall be a Root of Yishai, standing as a banner to the people. Unto Him the gentiles1 shall seek, and His rest shall be esteem. Footnote: 1Or nations.
            Isa 11:11 And it shall be in that day that יהוה sets His hand again a second time to recover the remnant of His people who are left, from Ashshur and from Mitsrayim, from Pathros and from Kush, from Ěylam and from Shinʽar, from Ḥamath and from the islands of the sea.
            Isa 11:12 And He shall raise a banner for the nations, and gather the outcasts of Yisra’ĕl, and assemble the dispersed of Yehuḏah from the four corners of the earth.

          • OOOOPPert EEEEpert

            Very interesting…we are taught that God was going to eventually let them eat of the tree, to show then good & evil, but they jumped the gun…after all if there is no evil, then free will does not really matter right?…or i should say if there is no choice to engage in darkness

            The eating of the apple we have been told was symbolic of a sexual act, (probably anal or oral sex) that was not to be engaged in…..the sexual energies are in the chakras at the base of the spine & the spine if you look on a x-ray is serpentine in nature, hence the serpent was the one who encouraged Eve to take a bite & she encouraged Adam, who had the free will choice to do it or not.

            INNER MEANING OF EVIL: “ENERGY VEIL”…..i.e a misuse of energy…we try not to use the word sin, but rather a misqualification of energy

          • http://katrael.wordpress.com Katrael

            OOOOPPert EEEEpert, I’ve heard from a lot of people that the forbidden fruit was sex but you’re position makes far more sense in that it was perverted sex. He made them male and female for a purpose…right? Although I don’t really see a explicit sexual message in the tree of knowledge of good and evil but see that it would cover all knowledge of all good and all evil. You are correct when you say they jumped the gun and took from the tree prematurely but can an all powerful all knowing creator be caught off guard. He knew what they were going to do. Either way they did it they would learn about good and evil. They would have to experience evil sometime to understand it.

            The enemy chose the female because he could more easily influence the male the female Adam than he could the male although the male Adam was present during this whole thing. It says that the male Adam was with her:

            The Scriptures: Gen 3:6 And the woman saw that the tree was good for food, that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree desirable to make one wise, and she took of its fruit and ate. And she also gave to her husband with her, and he ate.

            The male Adam couldn’t bear the be without the bone of his bone and flesh of his flesh and the opponent understood this and used it to his advantage. He could woo the woman with sweet talk and the man would go along with what she wanted. Women are more vulnerable to emotional appeals and pretty things.

          • OOOOPPert EEEEpert
          • http://katrael.wordpress.com Katrael

            OOOOPPert EEEEpert, yes

  • http://SeekerofTruth Tom Hohman

    Tom-Seeker of Truth

    Ben, your analogy of Israel being the “younger” brother of the U.S. needs a redo on a history lesson…thousands of years versus hundreds? Please, you’re not using 1948 for Israel’s birth, are you? Your Davidson prof’s must be cringing. By the way, all time coaching great Larry Brown was hired & fired in 1 day by Davidson ( a great learning institution ) after learning he was a JEW- horrors!! Beginning to sense a trend here, let’s go on. Pls stick to your humorous & poignant political commentary…anti-semitism doesn’t become you or this newsletter, and it’s beginning to no longer be disguised.

    Bob,

    The Abrahamic Covenant (Gen.12:3) is about the Land, the Land that HE gave Abram/Abraham/ Israel! This is a key Agreement of the Bible…see Gen.13:14-17. God gives “all the land” …”to you and your offspring forever” !! Even to those non-literalist forever means forever. He renews and confirms the Covenant in Deut. 29, “for all those who are to follow.” For all you Replacemment Theology folks the foundation of the New Testament ( Covenant) is the Abrahamic Covenant in the O.T. If you deny the Abrahamic Cov. then you must accept that God can break HIS promise regarding Salvation to all of us ( Jew & Gentile). Please no salad bar Christianity. Ben should do a parady on this one.

  • Bert Cundle Sr.

    The United Nations Should Handle it!

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