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The Devil We Know

March 23, 2013 by  

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Ben Crystal

is a 1993 graduate of Davidson College and has burned the better part of the last two decades getting over the damage done by modern-day higher education. He now lives in Savannah, Ga., where he has hosted an award-winning radio talk show and been featured as a political analyst for television. Currently a principal at Saltymoss Productions—a media company specializing in concept television and campaign production, speechwriting and media strategy—Ben has written numerous articles on the subjects of municipal authoritarianism, the economic fallacy of sin taxes and analyses of congressional abuses of power.

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  • Manuel

    It is disgusting to portray the devil as a black man much less Obama.

    • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing WTS/JAYS

      Agreed! But Hollywood is a Liberal-institution, and considering how Liberals claim to be anti-racists, one has to wonder why they would choose to portray the “Devil” as a “black-man”? Interesting…

      • nc

        WTS,I wonder also why the liberals of Hollywood would portray the devil as a dark skinned person except for the fact that most people wandering around in the Old Testament middle east did not exactly look like Peter O’ Toole or
        Jean Harlow!
        I, daresay, the producers missed the resemblance before the release of the show! Nothing like a little “issue” to increase ratings for the series! Of course, it is obvious! Even Ben noticed it through those squinty eyes and dull brain!

      • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing WTS/JAYS

        nc: WTS,I wonder also why the liberals of Hollywood would portray the devil as a dark skinned person except for the fact that most people wandering around in the Old Testament middle east did not exactly look like Peter O’ Toole or
        Jean Harlow!

        nc, except the actor in the film is not portraying most people wondering around in the Old Testament middle-east…the actor in the film is portraying the “Devil”, and not your typical middle-eastern. An important distinction, wouldn’t you agree? Btw, have you had your coffee this morning?

    • STEVE E.

      Some people believe Obama is the devil. He lies like the devil. He has a fake birth certificate like the devil. He has a fake SSN like the devil. Maybe he is the devil.

      • jopa

        Steve E; Some people believe Obama is the Devil but more actually believe he is the second coming of Christ and worship him.Just like Christ I didn’t see his birt certificate either.I take that back, I did see Obamas.

      • Karolyn

        The Devil had a birth certificate?/

      • Ken L

        Surely you trust our “LIAR-IN-Chief! Had it been ANYONE else he would have been impeached already! No one has the guts to do it lest they be labeled “Racist”: the liberals favorite CRUTCH!

      • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing WTS/JAYS

        Not sure if the Devil had/has a birth-certificate. But more importantly, no one knows what the “Devil” really looks like…which makes the fact that Hollywood picked an African-American actor to play the part of the “Devil” rather disturbing…wouldn’t you agree?

      • Karolyn

        Personally, I don’t see a problem. I’m sure the actor was thrilled to get the part. If he had the best audition, why would he not get the part? Would people have had a problem if Jesus was portrayed as black? Now THAT would have been controversial for many.

      • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing WTS/JAYS

        Karolyn: Personally, I don’t see a problem. I’m sure the actor was thrilled to get the part. If he had the best audition, why would he not get the part?

        Of course, and i agree. Everything else is speculation, which enriches discussions if not taken to the extreme.

        Karolyn: Would people have had a problem if Jesus was portrayed as black? Now THAT would have been controversial for many.

        Actually, there were movies made that portrayed “Jesus” as black. Unfortunately they failed to brake the stereotype…check the link below if you wish.

        http://scottknick.hubpages.com/hub/JesusMovies

      • Texas Ride

        Jopa believes ohomo is the second coming of Christ!?

        It just get crazier and crazier when these tribal-worshippers post.

      • Texas Ride

        A question more to the crux of the matter, why wouldn’t the devil be black!

        Countries ruled by blacks are never prosperous or free.

        Look at our own city of Detroit under a black government. A once prosperous city, under black government, has turned into a crumbling mass of bricks and mortar. Forty-nine percent of the people are functionally illiterate and the crime rate is out of sight.

        Look at what is happening to America under a black regime. If ohomo continues the entire country will be one big “Detroit!”

      • momo

        @WTS/JAYS The actor who plays satan is Morocan, not African american.

      • JUKEBOX

        Maybe, since the SS# he is using belonged to a man born in Russia in the 1800′s, Obama is really a vampire, because he can’t definitely prove where he was born, and he just keeps changing identities.

      • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing WTS/JAYS

        You’re right, momo. Thanks for the correction!

      • Wil

        WTS, I’m sure many anti-white racists would rather see the devil portrayed as a ‘cracker’.
        Other than that,there is no real problem with it.

      • Paul

        If he is the Devil, a lot of us, including you are going to spend a lot of time with him in the future, and you won’t have to worry about primaries, or elections either.

      • http://naver samurai

        If you think that Obama bin Laden is the devil, see what happens to this lady filming at an unplanned parenthood infanticide clinic. Sure doesn’t look good to me. The lady that attacked her must have a demon or satan inside her.

        http://www.conservativevideos.com/2013/03/pro-life-grandma-violently-attacked-at-planned-parenthood/

        This is what the 5th column wants. Grandmothers being attacked for filming or speaking the truth. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!

        You need both love of country and faith in God to be a patriot.

        “Democracy is the road to socialism.”

        Karl Marx

    • wizzardous

      devil is as devil does

      • http://personalliberty Alondra

        Yes! He constantly lies, deceits and destroys what others built, vilifies, slanders, smears, libels, accuses and blames others.

        Who it would be and what is his name, Wizzardous?

    • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing WTS/JAYS

      Or perhaps Hollywood wants to make certain that Obama’s image is indelibly-burned in the minds of the sheeple…? Does “product-placement” come to mind?

    • dan

      I’m confused….aren’t we ALL out of Africa….so hard to keep up with PC theories

      • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing WTS/JAYS

        Only one region on our planet has been given the title “The Cradle of Civilization” universally by nearly all historians. That being; the “Middle-east”. The “Middle-east” influenced all the other regions of the globe including Africa, Europe and East/South Asia very heavily before, during and after Babylon.

      • john811c

        If you do some research you will see that the first evidence of a civilization in fact was in the area we now call China 20,000 BC and a full fledged civilization being there in 7500 BC. Babylon dates only back to 4500 BC so you say the Middle East is the cradle of civilization how can that be when 3000 years before that there was civilization in China?

      • Texas Ride

        No Dan, we are not descendents of the spear-chuckers! But, hey, if you want to claim you are…be my guest.

      • http://personalliberty Alondra

        No Dan, we are NOT out of Africa.

        Our ancestors were out of the Garden in Eden. But the LORD God kicked them out of the Garden of Eden. And I hope Dan, you know the rest of the story.

        Praise the LORD!

      • Karolyn

        And, Alondra, YOU know where the Garden of Eden was, right? It could have been on another planet for all we know.

      • http://personalliberty Alondra

        Yes, lamebrained Karolyn, I do “know where the Garden of Eden was”.
        It was on OUR planet Earth:

        “The LORD God planted a garden eastward in Eden, and there He put the man whom He had formed … Now a RIVER went out of Eden to water the garden, and from there it parted and became four riverheads. The name of the first is Pishon; it is the one which skirts the whole land of Havilah … The name of the second river is Gihon; it is the one which goes around the whole land of Cush. The name of the third river is Hiddekel (Tigris); it is the one which goes toward the east of Assyria. The fourth river is the Euphrates. Then the LORD God took the man and put him in the garden of Eden to tend and keep it.” (Genesis)

        Ignorant Karolyn, Assyria was located on the Upper Tigris river in northern Mesopotamia.

        Mesopotamia was the area of the Tigris–Euphrates river system.
        On the Ancient Greek “Mesopotamia” means “land between rivers”; on the Syriac, which is a dialect of the Aramaic language, means “land of rivers”.

        Nonsensical Karolyn, move your lazy overweight buttocks and learn something for your good. STOP expose your complete ignorance absolutely in everything.

        It’s time to understand that your stupidity and disjointedness can’t bite me or anybody else.
        You are the only person who doesn’t aware of your own ignorance and Krazy stupidity.
        Oh, no, sorry. There is one more: your “Yo buddy”, the “Freemason moron of the 13 generation out of 14”.

        To be ignorant means not knowing, to be stupid means REFUSING to know. Neither is good.

        “You Can’t Fix Stupid. Stupid is FOR-EVER” – Ron White

        With no respect to any absurd FOOLHARDINESS and SENSELESSNESS,
        Alondra, the Hater of the VOLUNTARY Stupidity and Idiocy

        P.S. Infinite “diva” Karolyn, do not forget to point on my misspelling or grammar errors. Thank you.

      • Karolyn

        My bad, Alondra. So you think you know where the mythical Garden of Eden was. Fine. However, there is no definitive answer to that question, since, supposedly, the flood may very well have moved those rivers from different locations. I do resent you calling me fat, however; since you know nothing about me. You just like to call people names, and that’s all there is to it. I guess that’s what people who know it all do. Such a good Christian trait- NOT! How do you know the Bible wasn’t written by visitors from another planet? Truth is, you don’t. The worst thing is that you have no respect for anybody who doesn’t think like you, and that is very sad. I feel sorry for you.

      • http://personalliberty Alondra

        “A fool has no delight in understanding, but in expressing his own heart.” – King Solomon

        1) Karolyn, I do NOT “think” that I “know where the mythical Garden of Eden was.” I simply know WHERE it was.

        2) Karolyn, actually the rivers Tigris and Euphrates, like Nile river in Egypt, or Amazon river in Brazil, or Volga in Russia are the same rivers from the Creation. You do not agree with the ancient maps, archeological, historical, Biblical documents, so make your map. If you can to move directions, or change locations, do it. You are free to do it. Good luck.

        3) Yes Karolyn, it’s NOT good to call people fat. You right, it’s not “Christian trait – NOT!” And I am sorry for that and I promise I never will call you fat again.

        4) Karolyn, you wrote: “How do you know the Bible wasn’t written by visitors from another planet? Truth is, you don’t.”
        So stupid question and so idiotically stupid assertion. TRUTH is that I DO KNOW.
        “A FOOL lays open her FOLLY,” because “The FOOL DESPISE WISDOM and KNOWLEDGE.” – King Solomon

        5) “I feel sorry for you.”
        Karolyn, you do not have to feel sorry for me. You should feel sorry for yourself. I am OK. I am happy; my life is fulfilled almost in all human areas. I could not work in America in the field of my profession, that I liked, but I did find the area where I could to succeed. I was NOT on welfare. I did NOT receive food-stamps.

        6) You wrote: “The worst thing is that you have no respect for anybody who doesn’t think like you, and that is very sad.”
        It’s a LIE. Do not talk for everybody.
        I do NOT respect stupidity, ignorance, dishonesty, arrogance. I despise EVIL people, who “have fellowship with lawlessness” and “work in darkness and secret” – behind people’s backs.

        I despise WICKED, CORRUPT, DEBAUCHED people, who are promoting immorality and disregard the family values, “those who CALL EVIL GOOD, AND GOOD EVIL; Who put DARKNESS FOR LIGHT, AND LIGHT FOR DARKNESS; Who put BITTER FOR SWEET, AND SWEET FOR BITTER!”

        I read that couple people asked you “Do us a big favor – GET LOST!”
        I do not mind if you would not “Lost”. But disappear from my sight; skip my comments if you don’t like what I say, because I will answer “ACCORDING” the stupidity. And I will expose STUPIDITY & EVIL.

        Bye-bye Karolyn and good luck.
        May God give you a wisdom.

      • http://naver samurai

        Here is something showing how weak the pretender in the White House really is.

        http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2013/03/21/Reset-How-Netanyahu-Fought-Obama-Over-Iran-Palestinians-and-Missile-Defense–and-Won

        You go Netanyahu! Put that pretender back in his place. Let’s continue to protect Israel. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!

        You need both love of country and faith in God to be a patriot.

        “People without a heritage are easily persuaded.”
        “The first battlefield is the rewriting of history.”

        Karl Marx

        *Boy are they 5th columners trying hard to rewrite our history.

      • http://personalliberty Alondra

        Hi Samuria. Hillary is horne whore.
        If you did not watch yet “Iron Mountain – Blueprint for Tyranny”, I recomend.
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vYinZyxjsZM

        • http://naver samurai

          Hello Alondra. Always good to hear from you. Thanks for the information. Here is something showing how doctors will be retiring early due to Obama bin Laden Care.

          http://www.newsmax.com/US/doctors-retire-early/2013/03/23/id/496012?s=al&promo_code=12E86-1

          FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!

          You need both love of country and faith in God to be a patriot.

          “I cannot imagine how the clockwork of the universe can exist without a clockmaker.”

          Voltaire

          *No atheists here. He believed in God.

    • hipshotpercusion

      Oh really. A seventeen year old black male named De’Marquis Elkins shot a13 month old baby in the face in Brunswick, GA. I would most certainly refer to him as a Black Devil. Just saying.

      • nc

        Hipshot, have you ever noticed the skin color of those “Black Devil” serial killers? Black???? Which ones???

      • jopa

        The more one thinks of it Adam and Eve probably were black also.We are all descendants brothers and sisters of them so how else could it be.

      • Karolyn

        What does that have to do with anything? “Just saying” to insert a bit of news into the conversation?

      • Matrix

        Nc
        Life is very funny here in the liberty room, for when a white man kills many, it is declared a serial killer, yet when a black man kills many, it is declared an innocent man fighting racism…..it is what it is….fool

    • jopa

      Manuel;I always thought the devil was red but then again you will make the Indians mad and I wonder if that has anything to do with the so called red states.They may be mostly snake shaking devil worshippers.Just sayin.

      • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing WTS/JAYS

        Actually, the Bible describes Satan, formerly known as Lucifer, as the most beautiful creature God ever created…

    • Texas Ride

      Manuel, if he looks like a duck, walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, more than likely… “he is a duck!”

      Why is that disgusting, sounds more like a reasonable assumption.

  • dan

    Ben,better watch that baby face look… don’t you just hate it when beard trimming goes wrong

  • http://Yahoo Fran

    Maybe Obama is portrayed as a Black Satan…since their Soul is Black and that color just came to the surface.

  • john811c

    The color of one’s skin has nothing to do with the portrayal of the Devil no matter what people say about it that they portrayed him as a black man for all we know he could be a white man. The region of the planet a peoples live has a lot to do with skin color as for example many people in Brazil have olive colored skin as many are from Middle eastern decent and also the interbreeding of blacks in their society has something to do with it. One can only fathom why Hollywood would portray him as black but it could be for the controversy it would cause ( Free Advertizing)

    • JUKEBOX

      Why do people keep calling the MULATTO OBAMA black, when he is just as white as he is black? Caling him black is as racist as you can get.

    • Tommy cunningham

      Maybe the guy trying out for the part was black, simple. some people just look to deep into something

  • jopa

    I have seen several pictures of Dubya with a little set of horns and i don’t think they were photo shopped in either.He truly is the Devil.

    • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing WTS/JAYS

      Personally, i think Bush makes the Devil look like a saint…

    • Wil

      The burning sulphur your buddy Chavez is now smelling isn’t Bush.

  • Texas Ride

    Ben, as always, a great job!

    Lets just consider ohomo the devil since we have no proof that he isn’t. Everything about this “entity” is sealed away under “Court Order” at a cost of many Millions of Dollars and the hiring of Twelve Law Firms. That is exactly what the devil would do if he were pretending to be a “fraud.”

  • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing WTS/JAYS

    The news of the recent documentary-film for the “History-channel” wherein an actor who portrays the Devil resembles Obama or a Black-man is really a non-issue, a distraction…i wouldn’t even call it news.

    If anyone wishes to know what “Hollywood” is really up to, then i would suggest reading the article below…very disturbing!

    The Polanski culture : Hollywood’s push to normalise sex with children…December 8, 2011 “Lucifer’s guide to parenthood”…

    https://www.lifeinthemix.info/2011/12/polanski-culture-hollywood’s-push-normalise-sex-children/

  • FreedomFighter

    Great Eight as usual — that one pic sured looked allot like Obama a few year from now.

    Laus Deo
    Semper FI

    • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing WTS/JAYS

      FF, here’s a link i think you will find most interesting…”Bloodline of Adam through Seth to the Carolingians”:

      https://www.lifeinthemix.info/bloodline-adam-carolingians/

      • FreedomFighter

        Boring to look at – yet facinating to ponder the ramifications such bloodlines invoke.

        Real history is hidden, the world is not or has not been what is taught in schools.

        Laus Deo
        Semper FI

  • http://gravatar.com/richardgibbard richardgibbard

    Call the guys from Lizard Lick Towing to get the limo back here.

    • http://www.facebook.com/daniel.stillmunks Daniel Stillmunks

      “NEVER mind that sh*t—HERE comes MONGO !!”

  • Bob666

    I’m not sure if Bob pays Ben, but I hope Ben has a day job.

    • Oneguess

      Yo, Bub666! Do YOU have a day job. You’re not cutting it here!

    • http://naver samurai

      Ah, yes. The personal attack. Classic 5th Column strategy. I guess that Bob antichrist has nothing to offer, once again. For shame! But alas! I expected nothing new. Here is a video showing how Obama bin laden can cover up things dealing with Jesus, but is OK with being seen among terrorists.

      http://www.westernjournalism.com/breaking-obama-jesus-out-terrorists-in/

      We already know that he is lying about being a Christian, so this should come as no surprise. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!

      You need both love of country and faith in God to be a patriot.

      “”The Law given from Sinai (The 10 Commandments) was a civil and municipal as well as a moral and religious code.”

      John Quincy Adams

      • Bob666

        Oh Poor Sammybabble
        which one of the voices in your heard is the 4th Column???

        One personality, one wit, that leaves you out.

        The Church of Rome has made it an article of faith that no man can be saved out of their church, and all other religious sects approach this dreadful opinion in proportion to their ignorance, and the influence of ignorant or wicked priests.

        – John Adams, Diary and Autobiography

      • http://naver samurai

        I see you cut and pasted the quote by Adams. I’ll give you credit for that, but that is it. As he does not talk about hating religion as a whole. He was only talking about the Catholic Church. In those days, in some places now, like Ireland, Catholics and protestants do no get along. Why? Do to differences in how the church should operate, doctrines, praying to Mary, and many other things. Adams was one of those people. This doesn’t show he hates religion or Christianity, but it does show he doesn’t like what the Catholic Church was doing in Europe. Need to read the whole paragraph, along with the preceding and following paragraph, to understand what the person meant. I ran into this trap myself in college, but I have learned better since then. Here is something showing a secularist/atheist professor violating a students God-given rights to free speech and religion.

        http://www.politicaloutcast.com/2013/03/college-student-suspended-for-refusal-to-stomp-on-the-word-jesus/

        See what the 5th column is doing to our country? You just don’t get it, do you? FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!

        You need both love of country and faith in God to be a patriot.

        “Of all the dispositions and habits which lead to political prosperity, religion (Christianity) and morality are indispensable supports. In vain would that man claim the tribute of patriotism, who should labor to subvert these great pillars of human happiness, these firmest props of the duties of men and citizens. The mere politician, equally with the pious man, ought to respect and cherish them. A volume could not trace all their connections with private and public felicity. Let it simply be asked: Where is the security for property, for reputation, for life, if the sense of religious (Christian) obligation desert the oaths which are the instuments of investigation in courts of justice? And let us with caution indulge the supposition that morality can be maintained without religion (Christianity). Whatever may be conceded to the influence of refined education on minds of peculiar structure, reason and experience both forbid us to expect that national morality can prevail in exclusion of religious (Christian) principle.”

        George Washington
        Farewell Address
        September 19, 1796

        *Sounds like Washington had no problem, in fact, made it a requirement, for religion to be part of politics and our government. You lose again Bob antichrist.

        • Bob666

          Oh Sammybabble,

          Indeed, Mr. Jefferson, what could be invented to debase the ancient Christianism which Greeks, Romans, Hebrews and Christian factions, above all the Catholics, have not fraudulently imposed upon the public? Miracles after miracles have rolled down in torrents.
          – John Adams, letter to Thomas Jefferson, December 3, 1813, quoted from James A Haught, ed, 2000 Years of Disbelief

          Cabalistic Christianity, which is Catholic Christianity, and which has prevailed for 1,500 years, has received a mortal wound, of which the monster must finally die. Yet so strong is his constitution, that he may endure for centuries before he expires.
          – John Adams, letter to Thomas Jefferson, July 16, 1814, from James A Haught, ed, 2000 Years of Disbelief

          I do not like the reappearance of the Jesuits…. Shall we not have regular swarms of them here, in as many disguises as only a king of the gipsies can assume, dressed as printers, publishers, writers and schoolmasters? If ever there was a body of men who merited damnation on earth and in Hell, it is this society of Loyola’s. Nevertheless, we are compelled by our system of religious toleration to offer them an asylum.
          – John Adams, letter to Thomas Jefferson, May 5, 1816

          Let the human mind loose. It must be loose. It will be loose. Superstition and dogmatism cannot confine it.
          – John Adams, letter to his son, John Quincy Adams, November 13, 1816, from James A Haught, ed, 2000 Years of Disbelief

          I could do this all night Sammy, you are just not worth the time.

      • http://naver samurai

        Bob, Bob, Bob, why the lies about Adams, Jeeferson, and their Christian beliefs? You say that they despized religion, but yet you still haven’t proven it. They did not want a government sponsored religion, like the Anglican Church in England or the Catholic Church in France, but believed that Americans have the God-given right to speak and preach their religion in the public, to worship God as they saw fit, and the belief, as I have stated in an earlier post, that Christianity was part of the government. Not as a government run entity, but that those who serve can use their faith to help them decide how to vote, what to do, waht to say, etc., and people, like you, just don’t seem to understand that. The first quote you posted, John Adams was talking about the Catholic Church and CINOs, like you. The second one, John Adams also is only talking about the Catholic Church, not religion or Christianity as a whole. The third one, John Adams talks about the Jesuits and the Loyola’s. These were 2 groups of the Catholic Church. Since John Adams and Thomas Jefferson were protestants, they would have no good feelings about the Catholic Church. Each side felt that the others message was wrong, ergo, they verbally attck each other, while defending their own. This is not a message against religion or Christianity, but one of doctrines, which are made by men and not God. Just think of what was happening in Northern Ireland not too long ago. It was about the same way of thinking, except Adams and Jefferson did not call for an armed response against Catholics. You last quote talks about superstitions. Which ones? A black cat crossing your path, walking under a ladder, breaking a mirror, stepping on a crack in the sidewalk, etc., which ones? Neeeeed to specify. Ooops! I forgot that you hate evrything dealing with our founding fathers and their Christian beliefs. BTW, here is an article from the ACLJ describing our religious founding and how the 5th column, like you, are trying to tear it apart.

        http://www.aclj.org/in-god-we-trust/complete-idiots-guide-religious-heritage

        Neeeeed to study a lot more Bob. Since I didn’t “name call” I expect you to do the same. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!

        You need both love of country and faith in God to be a patriot.

        “Observe good faith and justice towards all nations; cultivate peace and harmony with all. Religion (Christianity) and morality enjoin this conduct; and can it be, that good policy does not equally enjoin it – It will be worthy of a free, enlightened, and at no distant period, a great nation, to give to mankind the magnanimous and too novel example of a people always guided by an exalted justice and benevolence…Can it be that Providence (GOD) has not connected the permanent felicity of a nation with its virtue?”

        George Washington
        Farewell Address 1796

        “Here is my Creed. I believe in one God, the Creator of the Universe. That He governs by His Providence. That He ought to be worshipped. That the most acceptable service we render to Him is in doing good to his other children. That the soul of man is immortal, and will be treated with justice in another life respecting its conduct in this. These I take to be the fundamental points in all sound religion (Christianity), and I regard them as you do in whatever sect I meet with them. As to Jesus of Nazareth, my opinion of whom you particularly desire, I think the system of morals and his religion (Christianity), as he left them to us, is the best the world ever saw, or is likely to see.”

        Benjamin Franklin

        I could go on like this all day, but why waste my time on someone who obviously knows very little about our Christian founding. Neeeeed to study more and quit the left wing wacko beliefs. Next thing you know, you’ll tell me the Capitol Building wasn’t used for church services starting in 1800. Sheesh!

        • Bob666

          Yo Sammybannle.

          “You say that they despized religion, but yet you still haven’t proven it”.

          I never said such a thing-Clearly a figment of your twisted imagination.

          “They did not want a government sponsored religion, like the Anglican Church in England or the Catholic Church in France, but believed that Americans have the God-given right to speak and preach their religion in the public, to worship God as they saw fit”

          The only thing that you have stated that is accurate.

          “Ooops! I forgot that you hate evrything dealing with our founding fathers and their Christian beliefs”

          Never said or posted such a statement, must be another one of imaginary voices upstairs? The fact is-the majority of the founding father were card carrying Christians of various degrees of faith and not members of a specific church.

          Where you blow it completely is by stating that the bible was used a guide for the Constitution, Bill of Rights and Declaration of Independence. You can make that claim, the general term of God is used and that is it. As a member of Freemasonry, I can make the claim that more Masonic values exist in these documents than the bible, but that would be very pretentious.

          “The founders of our nation were nearly all Infidels, and that of the presidents who had thus far been elected [Washington; Adams; Jefferson; Madison; Monroe; Adams; Jackson] not a one had professed a belief in Christianity….
          “Among all our presidents from Washington downward, not one was a professor of religion, at least not of more than Unitarianism.”

          — The Reverend Doctor Bird Wilson, an Episcopal minister in Albany, New York, in a sermon preached in October, 1831. One might expect a modern defender of the Evangelical to play with the meaning of “Christianity,” making it refer only to a specific brand of orthodoxy, first sentence quoted in John E Remsberg, Six Historic Americans, second sentence quoted in Paul F Boller, George Washington & Religion, pp. 14-15

          The Treaty of Tripoli
          Signed by John Adams
          “As the government of the United States is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion; as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion or tranquility of Musselmen [Muslims] … it is declared … that no pretext arising from religious opinion shall ever product an interruption of the harmony existing between the two countries….

          “The United States is not a Christian nation any more than it is a Jewish or a Mohammedan nation.”
          — Treaty of Tripoli (1797), carried unanimously by the Senate and signed into law by John Adams (the original language is by Joel Barlow, US Consul)

      • http://naver samurai

        Bob, Bob, Bob, why do you continue to tell untruths about out Christian founding? I see you have forgotten the 9th Commandment, “Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor.” The Treaty of Tripoli? Which one? The one written under Jefferson does not contain that sentence. Compare the 2 treaties. Sheesh! I thought you had more credibility than the ignorant 5th columners of truesoy, jeff, smilee, and other who lie about our founding also, due to all of them being atheists. What you quoted is unable to be proven and is wrong. Ergo, no credibility. You say Masonry, not the Bible, influenced the writings of our Christian founders? Our founding documents? Ha, ha, ha, ha! That’s a lie, but thanks for the laugh. I needed a good laugh. I challenge you to prove that. Since they were all Christians, the teachings and writings in the Bible would influence their thinking, living, and moral character. Masonry? Ha, ha, ha, ha! I also never said that they were all one denomination, but that they were all Christians. Some were more religious than others, like John Adams was more religious than Benjamin Franklin, but Christians all. Also, how could they be Unitarians when their wayward church wasn’t started in the U.S. till 1793?

        http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Universalist

        Don’t forget that Jesus is mentioned in Article VII of the Constitution, Articles of Confederation, and the Articles of Association. Therefore, this makes them Christian documents and not Masonic. Here is a clip that I will post from my Masters Thesis.

        “The term ‘separation of church and state’ is a double edged dagger used by political progressives to usurp the authority of the Bible and to cut our nation away from the Word of the Lord (Bible)(read Psalms 2). It’s origin comes from a letter that Thomas Jefferson wrote to the Baptists assuring them we have a wall of separation in place to protect our federal government from being taken over by an ‘established religion’ or having religion being taken over by the government like they had experienced in England. Individual state governments could have ‘established Christian religions’, but our federal government is protected and will not adopt an official established religion.

        God establishes nations and He has established the United States of America. We are Christian. We are established as “One Nation Under God”. Our Declaration of Independence and our United States Constitution are the documents that our founding fathers wrote to establish and unite our nation. These documents find their foundation in the Bible. These documents are a work of God. God has established the United States to be a Christian nation and to be a blessing to the people of Israel and to the nations of the earth.

        The Constitution of the United States was written to establish and protect our religious freedom. Political progressives seek to undermine our freedom through corrupt legislation and activist judges. Our nation is in moral and economic decay because we have turned our back on God and the Bible. We must not be ashamed of the Gospel. The Gospel of Jesus Christ is the power of God for salvation, to the Jew first and also to the Gentiles (Romans 1). The Bible says that faith comes by hearing and by hearing the word of God.

        We are Americans united, both Jew and Gentile…one new man…grafted together in the olive tree. We are a ‘royal priesthood’ (1 Peter 2:9), both kings and priests (at the same time)…a nation and Christian. We are a Christian nation. We are a people united in the order of Melchizedek, the King of Salem which is Jesus Christ, so that we may proclaim the praises of Him who has called us out of the darkness and into His marvelous light.”

        Samurai

        “The only assurance of our nation’s safety is to lay our foundation in morality and religion (Christianity).

        Abraham Lincoln

        “Intelligence, patriotism, Christianity, and a firm reliance on Him who has yet never forsaken this favored land, are still competant to adjust in the best way all our present difficulties.”

        Abraham Lincoln

        “My only hope for salvation is in the infinite, transcendent love of God, manifested to the world by the death of His Son upon the cross. Nothing but His blood will wash away my sins. I rely exclusively upon it. Come, Lord Jesus! Come quickly!”

        Benjamin Rush

        FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!

        You need both love of country and faith in God to be a patriot.

        “Nations like individuals are punished for their transgressions.”

        Ulysses S. Grant

        • Bob666

          Poor Sammy Babbe

          “Bob, Bob, Bob, why do you continue to tell untruths about out Christian founding? I see you have forgotten the 9th Commandment, “Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor.”

          The Treaty of Tripoli? you have gone for Christians to God in General and now you are including Jews where you use to say Christ only. Perhaps there is progress being made”.

          But were have I lied or born false witness?

          “You say Masonry, not the Bible, influenced the writings of our Christian founders? Our founding documents? Ha, ha, ha, ha! That’s a lie, but thanks for the laugh. I needed a good laugh. I challenge you to prove that. Since they were all Christians, the teachings and writings in the Bible would influence their thinking, living, and moral character. Masonry? Ha, ha, ha, ha! I also never said that they were all one denomination”

          So what do you know about Free Masonry?

          “God establishes nations and He has established the United States of America. We are Christian. We are established as “One Nation Under God”. Our Declaration of Independence and our United States Constitution are the documents that our founding fathers wrote to establish and unite our nation. These documents find their foundation in the Bible. These documents are a work of God. God has established the United States to be a Christian nation and to be a blessing to the people of Israel and to the nations of the earth”.

          Again, who’s god”

          And if we are a “Christian” Nation, then what about Jews or are Jews a good reference when you need them to make a point? why are we not a Jewish nation since the Jews came first?

          We are Americans united, both Jew and Gentile…one new man…grafted together in the olive tree. We are a ‘royal priesthood’ (1 Peter 2:9), both kings and priests (at the same time)…a nation and Christian.

          “We are a Christian nation” What about the Jews??????

          You remind me of a cat and a ball of yarn. In every conversation we have, that yarn gets more tangled.

          “Religious controversies are always productive of more acrimony and irreconcilable hatreds than those which spring from any other cause. Of all the animosities which have existed among mankind, those which are caused by the difference of sentiments in religion appear to be the most inveterate and distressing, and ought most to be depreciated. I was in hopes that the enlightened and liberal policy, which has marked the present age, would at least have reconciled Christians of every denomination so far that we should never again see the religious disputes carried to such a pitch as to endanger the peace of society.”
          George Washington – letter to Edward Newenham, 1792

          “I cannot conceive otherwise than that He, the Infinite Father, expects or requires no worship or praise from us, but that He is even infinitely above it.”
          Benjamin Franklin – “Articles of Belief and Acts of Religion”, 1728
          .

          “I wish it (Christianity) were more productive of good works … I mean real good works … not holy-day keeping, sermon-hearing … or making long prayers, filled with flatteries and compliments despised by wise men, and much less capable of pleasing the Deity.” Benjamin Franklin – Works, Vol. VII, p. 75

  • Al

    That was the repo man with obumos ride

    • JUKEBOX

      I thought that was ghetto car pooling

      • Warrior

        Maybe the driver was “sequestered” and obummer had to hoof it!

  • http://www.facebook.com/tea.partier.9 Tea Partier

    Olinsky tactics of ridicule, have worked so well for the left and their sychophant media lapdogs over the years. Well, guess what lefty hypocrite liers. We can use it too! The only different is: 1) we have facts, truth, reality and history on our side; 2) the left has given us a massive amount of great material to bash them with and 3) honestly, what passes for comedy on their side has been so politically corrected and dumbed down plus committed libs have no sense of humor and aren’t funny any more, just pathetic.

    • http://Yahoo Rose Marie

      Tea Partier, the left with Sal D. Alinsky’s instruction, “Rules for Radicals,” 1971, the left is using ridicule as a tool. Since he was a admitted Marist, Chicago community organizer and trained others, if his heart was for good, Chicago should have no poor. It was for control not for the poor and later to work on the middle class–which the left is doing now. I sure wish people would be strong and use their heads.

      • http://naver samurai

        You are right Rose Marie. The libturds and progturds (5th Column) are evil and especially the pretender in the White House. Here is an article explaining why.

        http://www.westernjournalism.com/obama-evil-personified/

        Do we now ask the God of our founding fathers for help or do we cower before the dragon, like Obama bin Laden? FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!

        You need both love of country and faith in God to be a patriot.

        “…the Declaration of Independence…laid the cornerstone of human government upon the first precepts of Christianity.”

        John Quincy Adams

  • Charlie

    Ben,,,
    Now you’ve done it! a lot of people’s pet snake are going to get stomped on with The Words of God as written in The Holy Bible,,,because,,,The Bible, gives this thing called the Devil a number of different titles… Notice, in The Bible when God says He started His Earthly Program and Created Man and Woman,,,God set up a training program to train His new “Creation”… Only one Law was given , don’t eat that “Apple”… God sent one of His Training Cadre named a snake that could communicate with Man’s weaker side, a Blessing and also part of God’s Training Cadre called Woman… Notice a snake is a very limited and low level creature,,,this snake is one of the many “”Adversary”" that God Created for training and testing of His new special creation called Mankind………………..
    Mankind fell into “”Sin”" by disobedience to God’s only “”Order”" of The Day… Notice The Bible says a thousand years is the same as a Day to God and a Day is the same as a thousand years to God… SO??? what is the definition of Time? and how many Pet snakes do you have???
    Omanuel can you define “”Time”"??? Well maybe GALT can??? Any Adversary to Your
    “”Perfect”"” obedience to God’s Laws IS Your Pet Snake…. Meanwhile……………………
    Praise King Jesus for Salvation and Healing… Acts 2:38 is salvation,,, because Peter said so at 1 Peter 3:21…………………………………….

    Charlie Freedom

  • http://personalliberty Alondra

    Parasite biden spent $585,000.50 – one night Paris hotel
    and $459,388.65 – one night in London hotel.
    You paid bills.

    • Karolyn

      Yes, Alondra, that is horrible, but it is nothing new. They have all done it.

      • Mike

        So what if they’ve all done it?? I thought this administration was going to cut the deficit in half by 2012 or it wasn’t going to run for President again? I thought this was going to be the Administration to “right the ship” and fix all those old problems of the Bush era!! I thought this was going to be the Administration of accountability and transparency! We were told this administration would stick up for our Civil Rights: NDAA, Patriot Act twice extended, HR347, Anti-Gun laws, etc…

        Everything this Administration campaigned on is a lie, except for Obamacare, they actually did that. However, the GAO reported 2 weeks ago that O-Care will cost this country another $6.7 Trillion over the next 10 years, which is above the costs we were told when they crammed this law down our throats.

        So basically you’re saying just because Bush et al had a good time means Obama et al can do the same, even if it still hurts the American people? Such childish sophomoric behavior will not fix the problems in this country. It’s like 2 kids in Kindergarten pointing fingers at each other, and you think your nasty little kid is perfect in every way…

  • Rabble-rouser

    Alondra, you must be illegal. Your boy W, Rove, Cheyney and his cohorts spent millions getting us in 2 wars, while the emperor gave away the US economy to his rich friends, while the soldiers ansd veterans and people who worked to build this country got nothing in return. You should be ashamed to call yourself a human being.

    • Tommy cunningham

      Don’t forget the dems got us into needless wars , Truman got us in Korea, Johnson got us into nam, Clinton got us involved in Bosnia, and Obama bombed lybia without congressional approval! Money wasted there also!!! So don’t be the pot calling the kettle black!

    • http://naver samurai

      Bush, baaaaa! Cheney, baaaaa! Rich, baaaaa! Wars, baaaaa! I guess there are still sheeple on this site. Too bad! Here is something showing how Obama bin Laden is guilty of treason and should be impeached now.

      http://www.westernjournalism.com/will-obama-be-an-accessory-to-murder/

      FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!

      You need both love of country and faith in God to be a patriot.

      “To a man of liberal education, the study of history is not only useful, and important, but altogether indispensable, and with regard to the history contained in the Bible..it is not so much praiseworthy to be aquainted with as it is shameful to be ignorant of it.”

      John Quincy Adams

  • Karolyn
    • http://naver samurai

      Not bad Karolyn, not bad. Interesting reading. Here is something showing another way of how Americans are hurting, not just by large CEO pay and priviledges.

      http://www.politicaloutcast.com/2013/03/anti-american-liberalism/

      BTW the 5th columners, libturds and progturds, also promote crony capitalism. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!

      You need both love of country and faith in God to be a patriot.

      “There is scarce a king in a hundred who would not, if he could, follow the example of Pharaoh: get first all the people’s money, then all their lands, and then make them and their children servants forever.”

      Benjamin Franklin

      *Doesn’t this sound almost like “king” Obama bin Laden?

  • maria

    The devil you know?watch and see! this is just the beginning of the REVENGE that was promised to us.Remember?We can’t even imagine what to expect in the following 4 years.
    The devil that will evolve is worse than anything you can ever think of.Sorry I am very pessimistic.
    Maria

    • Karolyn

      Pessimism will get you nowhere.

    • http://naver samurai

      I can tell you that things will not get back to going by our Constitution and Christian founding. This nation has been heading down the wrong path for many years and it is time to right the course we are on. I’m no economist, but I know that we need to get the spending under control, not raise the debt ceiling, keep the Bush tax cuts, and pay off our debt. Cuts need to be made more than just the military, but cuts across the board, to count all entitlement programs (This does not count Social Security, though it can be overhauled.). Here is something telling us that the 5th columners are thinking about Michelle bin Laden for the next VP.

      http://www.politicaloutcast.com/2013/03/michelle-obama-vice-president-sarah-palin/

      Her and Hitlery as the POTUS and VP ticket? As the saying goes, “God help us!” FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!

      You need both love of country and faith in God to be a patriot.

      “The highest glory of the American Revolution was this; it connected in one indissoluble bond the principles of civil government with the principles of Christianity.”

      John Quincy Adams

  • Karolyn

    Combating US Capitalism’s Moral Blinders
    http://www.commondreams.org/view/2013/03/20

  • ToughGuy1

    Obama resemblance of all evil in our country and a broad.

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