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The Democrats’ War On Women

February 4, 2012 by  

Ben Crystal

is a 1993 graduate of Davidson College and has burned the better part of the last two decades getting over the damage done by modern-day higher education. He now lives in Savannah, Ga., where he has hosted an award-winning radio talk show and been featured as a political analyst for television. Currently a principal at Saltymoss Productions—a media company specializing in concept television and campaign production, speechwriting and media strategy—Ben has written numerous articles on the subjects of municipal authoritarianism, the economic fallacy of sin taxes and analyses of congressional abuses of power.

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  • Karolyn

    At least I have one thing to agree agree with Ben about “Go Big Blue!!!” (I’m a Jersey girl.) The rest of his rant was the usual inane nonsense. Of course, Obama gave less to charity than Romney, because he made less. Duh! A little late with the Susan G. Komen news – just a gratuitous jab on abortions, which make up only part of Planned Parenthood’s services. When I was younger and had little money (versus now that I am older and have little money), Planned Parenthood made it possible for me to get yearly exams, which is a big part of their services.

    • Holly

      The point is not that Obama gave less dollars, it’s that Obama gave less percentage wise of his income to charity. He is always talking about spreading the wealth around, which is a Marxist ideology (confiscating ones property and giving to others). He only brings up partial Bible verses when he thinks it will benefit his socialist agenda. The fact is he doesn’t even tithe (10% of income to charity). He is super rich. He could certainly tithe. I know many Christians who make less than 40k per year and give at least 10% to charity. Obama doesn’t believe in charity, he believes in the viewpoint of a centralized government taking peoples money and handing it out the best way it sees fit. This is a tenet of socialist ideology. If one believes the government is a good steward of your money, then one may willingly refuse their refund or pay more in taxes to the federal government. Obama not only pays just what is required, but he gives less than he’s required to by Biblical standards.

      • Tom W.

        Right on Holly girl!!! Prepare to be attacked by the left wing hyenas, they’re out early this morning!!!

        • Robert

          And another LW nutcake just showed up, hi tom.

          • Tom W.

            hi robert!

        • http://messages.yahoo.com/Government_%26_Politics/threadview?m=tm&bn=7701295%23fuce66&tid=1130919&mid=1130919&tof=1&frt=2 Tejano

          ► the government forcefully takes your stuff and gives it to someone else?

          Yup, that’s the white-wing MO alright !!

          • Joe

            Umm….That would be taxation, Tejano – you know, the kind of thing liberocrats love. It’s the *LEFT*, remember, that wants to “redistribute the wealth”. And they can do that only by force, since all law depends, at base, on the actual or potential use of physical force, ultimately. So -hardly suprisingly – you’re wrong. (And silly, but I’m too polite to say that.)

          • Deerinwater

            Well, it’s been the GOP with the help of many “enables” that’s largely responsible for wealth redistribution Joe and it started in the early 80′s. This process of disproportional wealth transfer was just identified and labeled only when some attempt to address it was applied.

            After been permitted to legally steal for 30 years, people grow accustom to a certain life style and feel entitled and worthy , elevated by 30 years of living large. When you attempt to take this away, they fight and protest finding they way of life under attack and having enough money, power and influence to protest with.

            Much like “class warfare” it’s been in process for sometime now, and only until people started to resist and fighting back was it labeled class warfare, until then it was simply business as usual.

            It’s acceptable as long as we accept it! Went we refuse to accept it, “only then” is it labeled a “war”.

          • Warrior
          • Vigilant

            Deerinheadlights/Bob Wire says, “After been [sic] permitted to legally steal for 30 years, people grow accustom [sic] to a certain life style and feel entitled and worthy , elevated by 30 years of living large.”

            He is, of course, talking about those 47% who receive welfare and other gov’t benefits without paying a cent of income tax.

          • Deerinwater

            No, those people are only the effects, not all for certain but many are but victims of a system throw out of balance. A system that allows people in high places to install themselves to entitlements, inside information, enjoy the sympathy of a legal system and the courts that permit favoritism to a few.

            Life’s opportunities to each of us can be viewed as a time-line of the opening and the closing of doors. It is obvious that we shall never all reach the same place, nor is it intended that we should.

            This learning how to open and close and lock doors is a learned skill we must each work with in our own way and speed.

            But make no mistake, many persons that have went before has locked many doors as he passed through and you can’t follow. They had made it next to impossible to compete. They protect their interest.

            Today, a 24 years old student that was told to invest their time and money in a quality education and finds themselves with a BA and 25 thousand dollars in debit while working a Walmart part time and no quality prospects in sight has came upon such a “locked door”

            American Airline is down sizing some 1300 jobs, and plans to cut retirement pension funds 50%. American is attempting to lock some doors. Where did the money go? The employees thought that they had a deal, they invested as agreed. So what happen?

            The bag man made it off property with the loot, the entitled, the CEO’s , the Banksters got it.

            This “wealth transfer” has been taking place ever since the early 80′s and started with “alleged” down sizing of the FED and then followed by Corporate America, then followed by junk bonds, hostile take overs and leveraged by outs and sell off. Mitt Romney and his Wall Street buddies “types” had a field day.

            and it continues, with the Tea Party’s support today.

          • vieteravet

            Where did all these dumb-ass-acrats come from?

          • http://naver samurai

            Ahhhhh such wordplay to insult others and steal their rights. Must be a liberal. Notice how the first post she has played the race card. Classic liberal strategy. Why would you say such a moronic statement, when it is mostly minorities that are receiving welfare? Don’t forget also, that not every member of government that supports the welfare state is caucasian. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

          • Tom W.

            Deer I could’ve sworn that you were describing Nancy Pelosi dude! I thought you were on the other side man! Welcome aboard Mate!!!

          • Vigilant

            Deer claims, “No, those people are only the effects, not all for certain but many are but victims of a system throw [sic] out of balance.”

            Well, the “victimhood” card has been played. I guess there’s no answer to that, is there? Al Sharpton would be proud of you.

            This coming from a man who has told us he voted Republican in the past. Doesn’t have a clue.

          • http://naver samurai

            Babe in the wood (Bob), remember that we should abollish the self destructive welfare state, sanctifying everyone with a problem as a victim. We should remind them that this country was built by those who refused to be victims. Hand up and not hand outs. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

          • smilee

            samurai says:
            February 5, 2012 at 9:49 pm

            This country was built by those who did not see themselves as victims, are you them saying then that the slaves were not victims??? They sure built a lot of this country, what hand up did they have?? Economic slavery which we see so much of today, wages that do not provide for self support anymore? What do you think of the earned income credit?? That is you and I paying the wages that employers no longer pay. When I was young a job provided you a living today it no longer does so the big businesses lobbied for this wage subsidies and other welfares so their employees can make a living without them having to pay them a living wage. A refresher course in math could help lead you to that reality. Do the math and you can understand the realities behind today’s welfare. Do you not understand that is why 47% of wage earners filing income taxes pay no taxes, It is because they no longer make enough money to have to pay them. When I was young everyone made enough to have to pay them, I have paid taxes starting in 1962 and every year thereafter and will each year as long as I live. Welfare is caused by low wages, most today need these forms of welfare because we no longer pay them a living wage. Most welfare today goes to working people. Medicaid, food stamps, earned income credit, child care subsidies etc. When I was young almost all were paid enough no we would not have qualified for any of these. I ASK YOU AGAIN, HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT THE EARNED INCOME CREDIT?? I DARE YOU TO ANSWER IT.

          • http://naver samurai

            First of all smilee, everyone pays taxes from their check, no matter how small it is. Render unto Ceasar that which is Ceasars. Second, all those programs you have mentioned, show me where the Constitution authorizes it. Don’t tell me the “promote the general welfare” crap as it has been debunked on this site before. One reason why people have no money, no matter how much they work, is they refuse to change spending habits and stick to a budget. Try being a new E-6 with a wife and 3 kids at the time. Household budgets are necessary for survival. If they have to give up their drugs, booze, and cigarettes to make it work, than so be it. Don’t tell me about EIC. Its not authorized under the Constitution and shouldn’t be received by anyone. What is a hand up? Are you really that ignorant? How about working hard and getting a pay raise or bonus? That is a hand up. Earning a paycheck is a hand up. Welfare is a hand out and we should abollish such policies as they take up to 50% of our budget on entitlement programs. I was right about former Americans saying they weren’t victims. Look at how they built this country by hard work, sweat, bleeding, and praying. Don’t tell me the slave nonsense. That’s an arguement used by someone who has no facts or sources at hand. Neeeeed to be making that popping sound. Thank goodness you and your ilk are a dying breed. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

          • Joe H.

            deerleakingwater,
            you blame the GOP for wealth redistribution, but who was it that started welfare plans? social security? THE PROGGISH DEMS!!

        • Retired Marine
      • http://naver samurai

        HHHHHooooorrrrraaaaahhhhh! FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

        • Palin16

          Great news, Indiana now a right-to-work state!

          • http://naver samurai

            That’s correct! Now I guess ed-duh will have something else to complain about. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

        • John D. Winston

          I do not consider myself pro abortion, though I do think it should be available in the case of rape, incest, or potentially deformed babies. I would approve of it for a woman for whom tests indicate that the fetus could have a disease like Tay-Sachs disease in which the child has six months of healthy life and several years of suffering before an assured death. When i say I would approve it, I mean that the woman should have a choice – if she chooses to have the baby or not to.

          The Planned Parenthood spends 96 % of its funds on birth control and other women’s health activities like screening for cancer, etc. I am not in favor of stopping contributions to it because of disapproval of a small proportion of its spending.

          Many of the so called pro life people are against any form of birth control. The fact is, the the lack of birth control means a higher unplanned pregnancy rate. Because of that, the US has a higher rate of abortion than several European countries with similar sexual behavior by teens.

          • Joe H.

            john D.,
            what if six months to a year after you abort your Tay Saks child, they find a cure? could you then live with your decision? I ask, somewhat, from experience. My son is very handicapped, and had we aborted him and then they discovered a cure, I couldn’t live with that. Had i known my son would have been handicapped, I would not have asked my wife to abort him. See, he is part of our lives, not an interruption to it.

          • http://naver samurai

            These are just many reasons why you abstain from sex till you are married. No such thing as having your cake and eating it too. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

            P.S. My wife and I have had 4 children. None of them were an interruption of our lives, but blessings. Just another person favoring women and disposing of children.

          • http://naver samurai

            Maybe you should look at this video:

            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PCeSLQFlArA

            If we use the 14th Amendment as a defense, we can overturn abortion. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

          • http://naver samurai

            Also, does rape really justify abortion?

            http://www.patriotupdate.com/videos/politichicks-does-rape-justify-abortion

            FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

          • Tom W.

            John, PP is an abortion mill man!!! You’ve got your numbers backwards!!! Most of their money comes from being an abortion provider and the selling of birth control! Most of their facilities are located in poor minority neighborhoods for fairly obvious reasons and makes very little from breast cancer screening.

          • Karolyn

            Tom – I see no cites to back up your assertions. What’s wrong with birth control anyway? Being in poor neighborhoods gives poor women the chance at reproductive health care. As I stated before, when I was young and poor, Planned Parenthood was the only place I could afford to go for my yearly gynecological exams.

          • http://naver samurai

            We’re not saying that there was a problem with you going then, but they do usually set up in poor neighborhoods. Why? Couldn’t it be that they take after the femi-nazi Margaret Sanger and her views on performing eugenics on minorities? FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

          • Tom W.

            Please Karlolyn, spare me the details, I just ate!!! That poor doctor!
            Since 1973, legal abotion has killed more African-Americans than AIDS, cancer, diabetes, heart disease, and violent crime COMBINED! Every week, more blacks die in American abortion clinics than were killed during the entire Vietnam conflict!!!
            It is terribly ironic and a shame that the most dangerous place on earth for a baby is in the womb of their mother!!! And the largest chain of abortion clinics in the US is operated by PP! If you CARE enough to learn the TRUTH about PP’s history and agenda, watch the documentary “Maafa 21″, you used to be able to watch it free online but someone has put an end to that! I just wonder who that might be!!!
            Abotion is murder! Only God has a right to chose!!! It’s not a fetus, it’s a baby!!!

          • Tom W.
          • Joe H.

            karolyn,
            funny you should ask for “cites”!! YOU who NEVER posts sites to prove any of your lame opines!!

          • JeffH

            Joe H, don’t be so hard on K…she has posted links in the past from both NPR and Common Dreams.com… :)

          • smilee

            Tom W. says:
            February 4, 2012 at 5:46 pm

            Duh!! PP is a non profit organization so they make no money and provide services without regard for your ability to pay and that is why there are so many in low income areas that is the bulk of their clients whom do not usually have insurance.

          • http://naver samurai

            Sheesh smilee, you mean the money that they were funded by the government and the states don’t count? Since unplanned parnthood performs abortions, yes they do other things too, they are not allowed any kind of federal funding according to the Hyde Amendment. Its illegal you know. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

          • Karolyn

            Joe – I post links for many different sites. You’re just not seeing them.

          • Rebecca

            If you are “Pro-Choice” you are “Pro-Abortion”. Only in the case of rape, incest or “possible” deformity??? What if you “thought” the baby “might” be deformed but it wasn’t? Oops! About 90% of mothers who are given the blood test screening for downs syndrome, neural tube defects and other birth defects get a false positive. It’s nothing but a screening…it isn’t an indication that the baby has a problem…just saying what the risks that the mother has of giving birth to a baby with a problem would be.

            In addition, you are so wrong about most Pro-life individuals being against birth control…we are just against killing unborn babies. As ineffective as it is, even Roman Catholics use the rhythm method of birth control.

          • http://naver samurai

            Very well said Rebecca! I couldn’t have said it better myself. Keep up the good fight, fellow patriot. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

          • Michael D.

            Where the heck does John W. get his statistical info ?? Samurai –have you ever been pregnant ??? Both of you “GUYS” seem to be misinformed on many of the issues. We are all “prop Life” but you are “anti choice”” Until you can become pregnant you should just shut up !!!!!!!!

          • http://naver samurai

            I know what I’m saying, since my wife has been pregnant 4 times. Second, maybe you should be taking some of your own advice and be quiet. Keep up the good fight, fellow patriots! FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

      • Karen

        Holly, you’re exactly right. ..you get it….wish other folks did.

      • rosina

        EXCELLENT.
        COULD NOT HAVE SAID IT BETTER.

      • http://abbr isegade1@san.rr.com

        In response to your lengthy “analysis” of what Obama gives to charity, why he does it and how much a percentage of the $60.00 is not actually proportional to his real net income; that is pure speculation, opinion, made up and conjecture on your part. You repeat that Obama is a socialist and I know that is what you believe. From that false belief, you then extrapolate all kinds of erroneous and unproven statements about what you say that Obama believes. I am not doubting that you “believe” what you are saying but many disagree with you. You talk about your friend giving more money to Obama because, you suggest your friend is more religious, more generous and pure but, again, there are no facts or data to support anything that you say; it is a mere polemic.

        • Tom W.

          The Bible demands that you give 10% of your gross income to assist the poor! Are you saying that our beloved POTUS gives more than the pautry 1% he claims on his and Michelle’s tax returns?!! And to answer your question, yes I do! Even though what I make a year classifies me as being below the poverty line I still give my 10% and work with the homeless ministry at my church. You see I’ve been there! As a matter of fact as I was standing in line at a soup kitchen in Louisville, KY, a verse out of the 23rd Psalm hit me in a glorious way, “Thou preparest me a table in the presence of my enimies.” PRAISE GOD!!;)That’s a wink! And I started to really notice that everyplace that I went to recieve help was run by those bigoted, intolerent Christians!!!

          “Pure religion and undefiled before God and the Father is this, To visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, and to keep himself unspotted from the world.” James 1:27 (KJV)

          • Tom W.

            Have you ever seen a New Age soup kitchen?!!

          • Karolyn

            Tom – I guess you don’t read all the posts, like the link I posted yesterday (see below) indicating that Obama gave 14% in 2010.

          • http://naver samurai

            So what Karolyn? Sook Young and I each give 10% of our monthly income to the church, so what’s the big deal? It’s not how much you give, but what you have in your heart that counts. Remember reading about the Widow’s Mite in the Bible? FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

          • HH

            Tom, I have not read in the bible where it “demands” we give 10%. In the Old Testament Jewish people were to give 10% of all they had to the priest on an annual basis but according to the New Testament we are to give from the heart in accordance to how we’ve been blessed, Jesus never mentioned a certain percentage to give, I live under the New Testament not the Old. Although 10% is a good basis to start the widow woman only gave 2 mites but Jesus said she gave more than anyone else because she gave all she had. I guess that if you roll government “donations” taxes, and church and charitable donations into one, my wife and I probably “give” somewhere in the neighborhood of 35% and the most of that goes to the government. I would rather that most of it go to the church of my choice than the government!!!

          • Michael D.

            Tom W. & Samurai The bible also says you should not “procylitize” and both of you display such a wonderful christian ethic with your responses. I ask you WHAT WOULD JESUS DO ??? I’m certain he is sooooo proud of you !!!!!

          • http://naver samurai

            Tell me where it says not to share our faith or tell our beliefs to anyone. Michael (?) you sound just as lost as a 38 year old I know, with a mentality of an 18 year old. Show me where it says that or be quiet. Get thee behind me satan. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

      • Karolyn
        • Joe H.

          karolyn,
          how much did he give to his brother to train as a mechanic? Nada!!! how much did he give to his Auntie to support her while she is here? NADA!!! He preferes her to get the welfare she CLAIMS we OWE her!!!

          • http://naver samurai

            How much did he give to his brother to train his muslim brothers to fight the government in Kenya? FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

            P.S. This is what the real Obama bin Laden is like:

            http://www.impeachobamacampaign.com/video-is-obama-responsible-for-1000-kenyan-deaths/

          • Tom W.

            Hey samurai, Did you know that Barack sent FNC contributer Dick “Humpty Dumpty” Morris over to Kenya in 2007 to run the election campaign for his man in the race, Raila Odinga! When the president of Kenya realized who and what Humpty was and what he was doing there, he had him run out of the country on a rail! Following the defeat of Odinga in Dec. of that same year and claiming voter fraud, the resulting violence among his supporter resulted in the deaths of at least 50 people, including women and children, when the angry mob forced Kikuyu Christians into an Assemblies of God Pentecostal church and set fire to it, hacking with machettes any of the Christians who tried to escape the flames!
            I believe Morris is a mole and have tried to warn FNC about it! But to no avail!!! Which makes me scratch my head and wonder… Oh, did I mention that I’m one of those conspiracy theory nuts?! I Have to fess up!
            Keep your eyes on the skies, JESUS IS COMIN’! He loves y’all and so do I!!!

          • http://naver samurai

            Thanks Tom. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

          • smilee

            Sammi

            I even watched this garbage that you reffered to. Can not you tell a progaganda sight when you see one. There is not a word of truth in it. You ought to be ashamed of your self for supporting such lies and you call yourself a Christian?? Thou shalt not bear false witness against your neighbor. Do you believe in this commandment?? Does not sound like you do.

          • http://naver samurai

            SSDD, eh smilee? You sound like every other lib on this thread. I swear you all must watch the same sites or Rachel Maddow. I don’t need to worry about a big liar calling me one. Since they have actual pictures of him in Kenya, the video is no lie. Speaking of which, why don’t you post a source saying that I’m wrong? Till you do, do not answer any of my posts. I have no time for blowhards. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

      • Ricardo36

        NOBAMA AND HIS PUPPET MASTER,SOROS SHOULD BE DEPORTED SINCE THEY HAVE PROVEN THEY ARE NOT WORTHY OF BEING U.S.CITIZENS!

        • Tom W.

          Here, here Ricardo!!! Give ‘em hell bro!

        • Redog

          Ricardo? Sounds Cuban to me. Can you prove you are an American? And don’t try that forged passport trick.

          • http://naver samurai

            This was a waste of space on this thread. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

      • TomD

        “a centralized government taking peoples money and handing it out the best way it sees fit. This is a tenet of socialist ideology.” You forgot to add that a large portion of the peoples money, property and products get handed out to government officials under this system…when the people of the Soviet Union were standing in line in front of a store (which they probably had to walk to) for days to get a loaf of bread, the ruling class had no such problem finding food, heating their far better housing accommodations, or gas for their limos, etc….

        • Tom W.

          The Marxist idea of the law, as officially defined by the Soviet Union in 1938: “Law is a combination of the rules of behavior established or sanctioned by state authority, reflecting the will of the ruling class – rules of behavior whose application is assured by the coercive power of the state for the purpose of protecting, strengthening and developing relationships and procedures suitable and beneficial to the ruling class.”

    • Tom W.

      I believe that he’s referring to the UK Wildcats Karlolyn! Ben you’re a bigger riot than an Egyptian soccer match!!! It’s a wonder that our beloved POTUS wasn’t struck by lightning while quoting scripture! He totally took that passage outta context! What Yeshua was referring to in that passage was whoever was forgiven the most sins, should be the most forgiving!!! The Rachel Maddow crack was off the charts wasn’t it Karlolyn?!! I wish I could get away with a crack like that!!! Planned Parenthood has alot of nerve promoting themselves as a women’s health provider! They’ve been eugenisists from their very conception!!! Margaret Sanger was even known to be a favorite guest speaker at KKK meetings back in the good ole’ days! Keep it real Ben!!! Love ya bro! And keep your eyes on the skies, JESUS IS COMING! He loves y’all and so do I!!!

      • eddie47d

        Planned Parenthood does much for women’s health and have clinics all over this country. Some do breast exams and some smaller ones can only give referrals. They do monitor a woman’s health and check for changes on all health issues so a woman can avoid problems down the road. They treat women in rural areas and big cities neighborhoods where some doctors refuse to go because that is not were the big money is. Planned Parenthood is a true charity who do help the poor who otherwise would never receive care.Their biggest contribution is contraceptives not abortion so women can be more responsible for their family planning. Instead of attacking these services what would you do to help these women? What would you replace their services with?

        • s c

          e, all you do on this website is prove that most utopians tend to know bery little about the English
          language (especially vocabulary). ONLY a utopian could see Planned NonParethood as a fricking “CHARITY.”
          e, do you have any idea what a charity IS? Planned NonParenthhod is so dependent on POLITICS and POLITICIANS that it’s a charity the same way the fricking TALIBAN is.
          It’s one thing to spend someone else’s MONEY. To do it via pc politics and making women suffer via ‘women’s rights’ is beyond SICK, e.
          The gap between what you think you ‘know’ and what you really ‘know’ is astounding. e, You and your friends are about to learn exactly WHY humans can’t afford to try to live according to how they FEEL.
          The day you learn the difference between ‘social justice’ and charity is the day you’ve started to mature and reject utopianism, comrade.

          • s c

            Well, call me a dumbed-down utopian. The word that sticks out so bad should be very, and NOT ‘bery.’
            Oooops!

          • KHM

            @sc,
            Well said. I have for years tried to point out that Planned Parenthood was founded on an evil premise, so how could anything good come from it?
            They do not offer mammograms, as others have said, they send any clients who request this service to another source. So why would Komen evn partner with this terrible organization.
            Not to mention if you gave to Komen why would you want them to be giving that money to some other organization?
            The utopians as you call them seem to have little regard for women.

          • eddie47d

            Believe what you want but I would say the anti-PP crowd have the lack of concern for a woman’s health. Besides no one answered what THEY would do to help these women who only have PP to turn to. Where is your money for your agenda in helping women in need? Since you wouldn’t allow tax dollars to aid them in prenatal health or in bearing a child what makes you think you would help them after the child is born. I’m not talking about your own kids or a member of your church but a stranger who needs help and NOW!

          • Karolyn

            KHM – Mammograms are not the only way to detect breast cancer. More breast cancer is discovered during self or other-directed manual breast exams. During a woman’s yearly gynecological exam, which Planned Parenthood does, manual breast exams are given.

          • Joe H.

            eddie,
            It’s really quite simple. make it illegal for any agency that recieves tax money to perform abortions!! Then my tax money doesn’t go for something I’m diametrically AGAINST!! I have said it before, I would agree to abortions ONLY in the case of rape, incest, or TRUE threat to the mothers life. By threat to life, I mean threat to her physical well being, not an interuption to her ability to party!!

          • http://naver samurai

            Well said Joe H. It is people like ed-duh that isn’t capable of grasping the situation. I guess he has forgotten that any tax dollars, state or federal, that directly funds abortion in this country, other countries, or to institutions that perform abortions, is a violation of the Hyde Amendment. You know ed-duh, against the law. Obama is waging war on women, but more on the unborn. If he cares so much about children, then why is it when Indiana defunded unplanned parenthood, he cut of the state receiving $4 billion dollars in medicare/medicaid payments? That kind of sounds like extortion to me. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

          • Tom W.

            Talk about an admonishment!!! Give him hell s c! You can sure tell who wears the pants in eddie’s family!

        • gary

          Eddie,
          Most people aren’t very concerned about what good Planned Parenthood might do because the good is completely overshadowed by the MURDER of BABIES being paid for with OUR tax dollars. Get it?

          • eddie47d

            No tax dollars are used for abortions so why perpetuate that lie. Both side watch each other closely on that issue. Does it enhance your ignorance and make you feel smart or what?

          • Vicki

            http://www.nrlc.org/Factsheets/PPAbortion.pdf

            Since PP gets so much money from the murder of children why do they need ANY of our tax money.

          • http://naver samurai

            So are you telling us that the $360 million dollars that Obama bin Laden wanted to give them, none of it would go for abortions? Sheesh ed-duh, neeeeed to wake up and smell the coffee. Only aftr making that popping sound. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

          • Tom W.

            I’d like to think so gary, but somehow I doubt it!!! I am praying for poor eddie though!

          • JeffH

            eddie says “No tax dollars are used for abortions so why perpetuate that lie.”

            Kind of amazing that eddie still believes what he is told even by Planned Parenthood…I suppose he must have some inside info that the rest of us don’t know and he’s sharing it with us. THINK NOT!

            There has never been a “national” audit of all of the PP locations so I find it a bit difficult to believe in this day and age of deciet and deception that PP doesn’t use any taxpayer funded grant money to support the approx 10% of their business that is “abortions”.

            There is a pie chart on page 8 of Planned Parenthood’s most recent annual report that is a little misleading. According to the chart, abortion made up a mere 3% of Planned Parenthood’s combined “services” in 2007.

            What is missing from PP’s accounting methodology: time, money and clients. Wouldn’t it have been far more accurate to evaluate their distribution of services along one or all of these criterion? For instance, though Planned Parenthood lists 10.9 million services provided, they list only 3 million clients – meaning the average client received multiple services. So on a clientele basis, you could say that abortion accounts for 10% of Planned Parenthood’s operations (3.02 million abortions divided by 305,310 abortions).

            How about revenue? Planned Parenthood’s fiscal year ends in June. From July 2007 to June 2008, their health center revenue was $374.7 million (that’s on top of the $535.6 million they received in government grants and contributions). Since they don’t disclose what percentage of that revenue is tied to what services (coincidence?), we have to speculate a bit. Averaging the cost of a first-trimester abortion at $413 and extending that across 305,310 abortions, we get $126 million. If we consider that 21,702 of those abortion were late term (as reported by the September 29, 2010 STOPP Report) at an average cost of $3,000, that takes the total up to $182.2 million. As such, abortion accounts for almost 50% of their health center revenue.
            http://www.abort73.com/blog/planned_parenthood_and_the_percentages_of_abortion/

            I think somebody is either lying or completely mis-informed…I believe it’s the latter.

          • Joe H.

            eddie,
            When you have a hole in the front of a boat and a hole in the back of the boat, the water mingles just like the money at PP! how do you serarate the front water from the back water??? If you can do it eddie, you are a true magician!!

        • Tom W.

          eddie you should really stop posting until you get all your screws tightened dude! You definately have more than a couple that are loose!!! Come back when you mature!

          • Karolyn

            Tom – Regarding immaturity, speak for yourself. Who’s the one who had his offensive posts removed this morning?

          • http://naver samurai

            Now Karolyn, we both know that I’ve had posts or comments pulled before. It’s not what you post, but the points you make in the post that counts, correct? It’s also nice of you to use the classic liberal strategy of the personal attack. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

          • libertytrain

            Samurai, if it says Offensive Post Removed, it had nothing to do with opinions, it was just uncouth and foul words -

          • http://naver samurai

            That’s true Libertytrain. I remember having the word “moron” removed many times from previous posts. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

          • libertytrain

            usually more than moron…..

          • Joe H.

            karolyn,
            you admonish Tom for getting words removed, yet say nothing about the person you are protecting getting almost BANNED from the site!! Which is worse?

          • http://naver samurai

            Good point Joe H. They must be joined at the hip or something. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

        • gnafu

          Right On! You forgot to mention that a number of women who do work but do not have insurance coverage are charged for exams according to their income. (% thereof). So it is not always “free” and on the tax payer’s dollar. Also, young girls who go to planned parenthood are looking for contraceptives because they want to become sexulally active. Counselors explain the hazards of becomeing sexaully active. i.e. Birth Control Pills do not prevent sexually transmitted diseases. This does educate these young girls who would never get the message from their parents. Planned Parenthood also test clients for Aids. They have health programs for the elderly. They go into poor or uneducated areas to talk about health issues and how to prevent unwanted pregnancies. When females want to discuss abortion, they are educated about the risks they are taking and try to refer them to clinics that promote Care for prenatal clients. Abortion is “last resort.” So don’t blame Planned Parenthood for “Abortion.” That choice is left to clients after much good counseling by Planned Parenthood.If you have never visited Planned Parenthood, you should. You will learn a great deal and be better informed.

          • http://naver samurai

            Have you ever been to an abortion “clinic?” Believe me, they may offer what you say, but you are far from reality if you don’t think they push for abortions. They take after the beliefs of Margaret Sanger. A believer in eugenics and nazi ideology. Neeeeed to study more and be better informed. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

      • JUKEBOX

        If Planned Parenthood had not been responsible for some 40 million abortions, we might not have the Social Security crisis today.

        • carrobin

          PP was responsible for 40 million abortions?! If that’s true, then good for them. The planet is being destroyed by overpopulation, so we need to pull back, not keep chugging out more humans. (Any woman who would vote Republican is uninformed and/or nuts.)

          • vieteravet

            I’m damned sorry they missed you, unpatriotic —!

          • http://naver samurai

            Overpopulation is one of the 12 biggest lies known to man. If all those aborted children were alive and well, there would not be a shortage of workers for the workforce. I guess your eugenics and nazi ways of thinking suit you, don’t they? FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

          • Tom W.

            It is such a shame that your mother didn’t have the option of choice when she was pregnant with you carrobin!!!
            May God have mercy on your wretched soul! I WILL pray for you also.

          • smilee

            samurai says:
            February 4, 2012 at 4:37 pm

            “Shortage of workers” where have you been we have millions more looking for jobs that can find them right now. You really need to take the blinders off sammie, it is what is making you blind to reality

          • http://naver samurai

            Wrong again smilee. If we got every American back to work, which would be great, there would still be many jobs by illegals. If those people were alive and not murdered, just think about it. Some of them could be politicians, teachers, nurses (Which there is a nationwide shortage of), doctors, police, firefighters, etc. Don’t tell me some mumbo jumbo from the left. Who knows, these people could have grown up and opened shopd of their own, hired workers, and unemployment may be less than it is now. Also, don’t hand me this “world is overpopulated” crap. Leave it to you and your nazi mentality. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

        • Michael

          I WOULD THINK THAT 40 MILLION UNWANTED CHILDREN WOULD BE AN INCREASED BURDEN ON SOCIAL SECURITY.

          • vieteravet

            The working class pays for the recipients, DUH!

          • http://naver samurai

            Another uninformed lib. What else is new? FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

          • Tom W.

            Why would that be Michael? Unless of course the fund was robbed by a politician who was pandering for votes from single mothers and other bleeding heart libs!!!

        • gnafu

          Jukebox> That is a bunch of B.S.

          • http://naver samurai

            Prove it. Since they would be working, they would also be paying into the system. Care to show a site proving me wrong, hmmm? Neeeeed to be making that popping sound (Kang). FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

    • Dntmkmecmoverther

      Ya know Karolyn, it’s attitudes like yours that persuade evil to continue. Does the fact that PP never offers adoption as a solution to an unplanned pregnancy raise an eyebrow with you? PP’s ‘services’ to women are really no more than a method by which they obtain subjects for abortions…and thus cash. If you think they are there ‘for the women’ you are seriously disillusion.

      BTW, here is a tidbit you need to ponder: post abort women have an extremely heightened estrogen level which research has proven relates directly to developing breast cancer within 2-10 yrs of the abortion. In light of that, wouldn’t abortion be avoided if an organization actually cared for its patients?

      • Tom W.

        Don’t confuse her with facts Dntmkmecmoverther! Love your handle, are you a he or a she?

      • Marian

        The only pervading evil growing in this country is socialism.

        • olindamoore

          you are correctand the people of USA dont need any socialism,comunism radicals in here,remember what Allen West said…….

        • smilee

          Funny, I thought all the evil ones where on this site screaming socialism for every thing they are incapable of understanding.

          • http://naver samurai

            Like you smilee? FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

      • Karolyn

        Planned Parenthood does offer unplanned pregnancy counseling, which includes the option of adoption. Keep listening to the propaganda of your gurus for all the wrong information you want! They also offer counseling to other family members.
        http://www.plannedparenthood.org/western-pennsylvania/counseling-services-36356.htm

        • Vicki

          http://www.nrlc.org/Factsheets/PPAbortion.pdf

          No Real Plans for Parenthood
          * Prenatal Care? There were more than 47
          abortion patients for every one receiving
          prenatal care at PPFA clinics in 2009.
          * Adoption? In 2009, abortions outnumbered
          adoption referrals at Planned Parenthood by
          a 340 to one margin.

          They may offer adoption advice but not in useful quantities.

          • Karolyn

            Well, that’s not their choice, it’s the woman’s choice. They offer the options; it’s not their fault if the women choose abortion!

          • http://naver samurai

            Hey Karolyn, why not tell them about feminists for life?

            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PKaVuymKg3A&feature=related

            FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

          • Karolyn

            samurai – Yeah, why not? Did you ever stop to think that maybe they do?

          • http://naver samurai

            Maybe they do Karolyn, but at least it is another option then killing your own child. BTW, Sook Young found this site for me. She knows many women’s sites. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

          • Tom W.

            Only GOD has the right to chose!!!

          • vicki

            Karolyn writes:

            Well, that’s not their choice, it’s the woman’s choice. They offer the options; it’s not their fault if the women choose abortion!

            I wonder just how much more PP gets for each abortion.

          • vicki

            Silly me. I don’t have to wonder. It’s all right here on the net

            http://hotair.com/archives/2011/03/30/video-former-pp-director-slams-abortion-profit-center-public-funding/

            98%. Nice motive. What where you saying about choice again, Karolyn?

          • smilee

            Tom W. says:
            February 5, 2012 at 6:17 am

            WRONG!! He told you what he wanted you to do but also gave you the freedom to not do it, that is free choice. so being pro choice is not wrong. Each is responsible for their own actions not the actions of others. He even went so far as to give you a way to be cleansed if you make the wrong choice and then it will be as if you did not make the wrong choice. I am not so sure he cares much about those who try to interfere with other persons freedom. He did tell us to witness for him but did not authorize us to be the judge, jury and executioner over our sisters and brothers he reserves that unto himself. BE CAREFUL SO YOU DO NOT FIND YOURSELF PLAYING GOD HE DOES NOT LIKE SOMEONE TRYING TO TAKE HIS PLACE!!

          • smilee

            vicki says:
            February 5, 2012 at 6:38 pm

            BEWARE these propaganda sites whom have an agenda and will tell any lie to fulfill that agenda when in fact the truth would shoot down that agenda.It does on the site you referred us to. Listen to what clients of PP say and you get a different story, most that go there like the services they get there and you do not have to go there if it no annoys you and your choice should be fully respected as you should respect those who choose to go there.

          • Vicki

            Smilee writes:

            …so being pro choice is not wrong.

            Being pro-choice MAY be ok in Gods eye but murdering children is an individual action that certainly is NOT acceptable to God.

          • Vicki

            smilee says:

            BEWARE these propaganda sites whom have an agenda and will tell any lie to fulfill that agenda when in fact the truth would shoot down that agenda.

            Thanks for the warning but we already know about dailykos and huffingtonpost and a bunch of others propaganda sites.

            We shoot down the liberal lies here daily. With cites from multiple sources.

          • http://naver samurai

            Actually it is called the doctrine of free will and freedom to choose. Which means you can choose to believe and obey God or not. Its just that simple. Why do you try to argue about God and Jesus, when it is so blatantly obvious you know nothing about them? FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

            P.S. Good posts Vicki. I was wondering when smilee or Rob Smith might show up.

        • Tom W.

          (offensive post removed)

          • Tom W.

            For all you Patriot fans, a blast from the past;

            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KjekgRPpF_w

            Even the fact that Karlolyn is a Giant’s fan can’t mess up the victorious feeling I got seeing Tom Brady with his tail tucked between his legs last night!!! GO BIG BLUE!

    • http://naver samurai

      Oh come on there Karolyn. How doesn’t he make sense? Just because you believe differently, you go ahead and attack him. Classic liberal strategy. Second, yes it is true that unplanned parenthood does things other than abortions. But the big subject about them is the 50 million abortions they, as well as their doctors, are responsible for. Third, since my team did not make it the the Superbowl, I can care less who wins. I’ll watch the game though. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

      • Marian

        I would rather have legalized abortions than young girls and women going to butchers. Abortions will never cease. They have occurred since the beginning of time, like prostitution….the oldest profession.

        • Tom W.

          But what we need to promote Marian is forgiveness and love! If we had enough of those two virtues going around, why would a mother want to kill their baby?!! That is why sex is a gift from God to be shared by a man and women joined together in Holy matrimony, because only a couple joined in such are prepared for the responsibility that parenthood brings!

          • Dwayne

            If you say that you believe in God, did not God create us and allow
            everyone the right to choose between right/wrong, good/bad?
            God has giving you the right to choose, why take away something that
            God gives to everyone?

          • Vicki

            Dwayne says:

            God has giving you the right to choose, why take away something that God gives to everyone?

            Why indeed do you advocate taking away the child’s right to choose?

            Like Animal farm all are equal but some are more equal than others?

          • http://naver samurai

            Troll alert! Troll alert! Remember this Dwayne: “All people are equal, all choices are not.” Most women choose abortion, because they feel their partying is more important than them taking responsibility for the child they helped to come into being. This must be why 44% of abortions are performed on college students or women under 22 years old. If you’re going to play, you’re going to pay. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

          • Vicki

            Women DO have a choice and I am pro-choice. That choice is in having sex, not in having a baby. If I chose to have sex and a baby results I do NOT have the choice to murder that child. My choice was back when I had sex, not when I became pregnant.

            Now I am willing to bet that if I did not comment about rape here, some liberal would start whining about the injustice of forcing a woman to carry a baby from a rapist.

            Let me ask this. The woman (An obvious victim) gets to suffer the side effects of child bearing for maybe 9 mo. The perp gets to spend a few years in prison. Why would a civilized society encourage the Death Penalty for the other victim of the rape?

          • Tom W.

            Vicki, I used to think that an abortion was justified in the case of rape or incest, but then I saw a documentary on some of the fine human beings that were the product of such an atrocity! Now I stand firmly behind the Civil Rights at Conception act!!!

          • NC

            Tom, are you telling me that couples married in the church with all the vows and love they could muster never opt for an abortion and continue to provide love for other children?NEVER?? Why does an all powerful GOD allow so many young under-educated girls to become pregnant? Do you where that fits in his great plan for his creation?

          • Vigilant

            NC, as expected, brings out the old failed argument of “Why does an all powerful GOD allow so many young under-educated girls to become pregnant? Do you [sic] where that fits in his great plan for his creation?”

            NC, your childish attempts at religion bashing are as shopworn as your other liberal claims in other matters. Where did you ever get the idea that God is supposed to maintain a perfect Utopia for his children? Or that He would prevent anyone, any time, from making mistakes or committing crimes?

            Would you have it so that the Creator endowed us with “pursuit of happiness” only, while taking away our liberty? Would you rather fight God or a tyrannical government of people who would take away our individual freedoms?

            Neither God nor any temporal human system will ever create Heaven on earth. If you had a whit of sense you would know that.

          • Vicki

            NC says:

            Tom, are you telling me that couples married in the church with all the vows and love they could muster never opt for an abortion and continue to provide love for other children?NEVER??

            Interesting attempt to expand Tom’s statement far beyond his point. Are you using a playbook or just did not understand Tom’s point?

            NC says:

            Why does an all powerful GOD allow so many young under-educated girls to become pregnant? Do you where that fits in his great plan for his creation?

            Does not matter if you believe in intelligent design or evolution, the Creator clearly set a point in the development of the human where sufficient learning had occurred to justify procreation. The fact that you are breathing enough to read this text is sufficient proof.

            You might also observe this same marvelous system in a wide range of creatures on this planet.

          • http://naver samurai

            NC and his attempts of Christian and God bashing shows his ignorance of the Almighty. Be careful NC (no cajones), your atheism is showing and will get you nowhere on this site. Too many God fearing and loving patriots on this site. I seem to remember God saying “Thou shalt not kill” in the Bible. Oh yeah, it is found in the 10 Commandments. Maybe you should read them and the Bible and have your mind awakened. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

        • Vigilant

          “Politics is supposed to be the second oldest profession. I have come to realize that it bears a very close resemblance to the first.”

          - Ronald Reagan

          • Joe H.

            A big AMEN to that!!!! Very good quote Vig!

          • http://naver samurai

            HHHHHooooorrrrraaaaahhhhh! Keep up the good fight, fellow patriot! How about this one:

            “If we ever forget that we are one Nation Under God, then we will be a Nation gone under.”

            Ronald Reagan

            “We believe that all men are created equal, because they are created in the image of God!”

            Harry S. Truman

            I guess the quote from Truman would include the unborn, correct? FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

          • Tom W.

            Well said samurai!!! No wonder sook loves ya! You two are so blessed!!!

          • Vigilant

            Good show samurai! And Joe, thank you.

          • NC

            Vigilant you infer that God gives us our liberty or our pursuit of happiness! Then you sit here when the mood suits you and exclaim that our liberty was provided by our fallen dead.

            I prefer to think that we have problems because we,not a God, caused them and we will either solve them or make them worse. If “God” has a dog in this fight I haven’t heard his voice offering advice to either side. Now some of you people must hear the voice of God to claim to have some divine knowledge as to what is “right”!! But for some reasons the problems still exist. Would one of you who can ask the question correctly please be the spokesman and get us a “divine” answer or get the h*ll out of the way and let us mortals try to solve the problems! The rest of you can sit around waiting for Godot while fingering your beads!!

          • Vigilant

            NC says, “Vigilant you infer that God gives us our liberty or our pursuit of happiness! Then you sit here when the mood suits you and exclaim that our liberty was provided by our fallen dead.”

            Another superficial, wordsmithing attempt to confuse. First of all, the correct word would have been “imply,” not “infer.” Work on your English skills.

            Secondly, you’ll have to provide a credible reference to any proclamation on my part “that our liberty was provided by our fallen dead.” Search as you will, you won’t find it.

            Our liberty is a birthright under Natural Law; no human being can either give or take that right away. However, liberty can most certainly be defended from those who would forcefully attempt to crush it. And the “fallen dead,” among others, have worked tirelessly to scotch those attempts.

            Have I been too profound for you?

          • Vigilant

            NC says, “I prefer to think that we have problems because we, not a God, caused them and we will either solve them or make them worse.”

            You’re beginning to sound like a believer. OF COURSE we are the problem makers! You won’t find an argument against that by a person of faith.

            Then you say, “If “God” has a dog in this fight I haven’t heard his voice offering advice to either side. Now some of you people must hear the voice of God to claim to have some divine knowledge as to what is “right”!!”

            It’s called a conscience. Few, unless they are either prophets or in mental institutions, literally hear the voice of God. If your conscience doesn’t guide you, as it does billions of people now living, then you have a sociopathic mental makeup that seeks only to satisfy your own desires at whatever expense to others.

            “But for some reasons the problems still exist. Would one of you who can ask the question correctly please be the spokesman and get us a “divine” answer or get the h*ll out of the way and let us mortals try to solve the problems! The rest of you can sit around waiting for Godot while fingering your beads!!”

            A particularly derisive and ridiculous comment. But to use your own statement, , “I prefer to think that we have problems because we, not a God, caused them…,” whatever makes you think that the foxes guarding the chicken house will suddenly see some form of light and decide to fix the problems they themselves have caused?

            This kind of claptrap has been around for centuries. Today it’s known as “secular humanism,” a particularly misguided and downright evil notion that some enlightened committee of humans can know what’s best for us. Worse than that, it seeks to deal out laws and regulations for life that could never be immutable or truly authoritative. The rules would change over time, depending on the whims of the “enlightened.” And worst of all, it could deprive you of life, liberty and property, to which there would be no answer because “the Enlightened have spoken.”

            It is the modern-day elitists that propose just such an arrangement. They are called “Progressives.”

          • http://naver samurai

            Come on NC, don’t you remember that we were founded a Christian nation? We were founded on Judeo-Christian principles, Biblical Law taken directly from the Old and New Testiments, our laws based on the 10 Commandments (If you don’t know that one, then you know nothing of our founding), and a deep, rich belief in nature and nature’s God. Knock off the unfounded nonsense as the points you have made, over and over, have been repeatedly refuted on this site. Care to cite a source to back up what you say? FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

          • smilee

            samurai says:
            February 5, 2012 at 5:23 pm

            The original translation was “Thou shall not murder” as Jesus explained you do not have to kill physically to be guilty of murder you only have to bear hatred in your heart. I leave it to God to determine if every abortion is murder, we just simply do not know unless we sit in judgment something Jesus also told us not to do.

          • smilee

            samurai says:
            February 5, 2012 at 5:23 pm

            This nation was not founded on christian principals and even Billy Graham has said as much, he said the US was not founded on it and has never been a Christian Nation this is nothing more that the far right christian radical belief, your in denial.

          • http://naver samurai

            Sheesh smilee, you had to come and post lies again? I will agree that if it is a tubal pregnancy, or some other threat to life and limb, it could be OK, but everything else is only murder. No exceptions! Second, why do you lie about our founding? You sound like Obama bin Laden did in 2006 at his church. If we were not, then why is God, the 10 Commandments, and prayers listed on our national monuments, the SCOTUS, and on the Liberty Bell is written Leviticus 25:10? That is really ignorant of you to say such nonsense, when the evidence is right in front of you. How can’t we be, but all these things are in plain sight? You’re arguement has benn refuted many times in the classroom, meetings of the minds, debates, and on this site. Knock off the nonsense. I suppose you have a source that will back up what you say, hmmm? Ooops! I keep forgetting that you and your ilk don’t believe in facts and sources. Its people, like you, that keep this country divided and polarized with lies, rhetoric, and innuendo. I also noticed that you came right after me. Am I your target for today? Here is a good website that you can go to for the education of your little lib mind.

            http://www.americasfoundingfathers.wordpress.com/2010/10/29/a-christian-nation

            FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

          • http://naver samurai

            Here’s another one for you:

            http://www.wallbuilders.com
            http://www.keepgodinamerica.com

            FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

          • smilee

            samurai says:
            February 5, 2012 at 10:06 pm

            Sammie Sammie, I did list a source “Billy Graham” (you ignored that and went off on a number of irrelevant tangents)there are others and if you do not read into history all your biases so as to distort the realities of what really happened you would come to the right understanding of it. This was put together by about a bunch of rich guys looking to find a way to protect their property and wealth because power was so fragmented they could not do that on their own but could if they consolidated power and as they did not trust each other they built in balance of powers. There were some you had honest ambitions but they were in the minority. Never the less they produced a very good document that has stood the test of time. They did not include the Bill of rights either that came by the amendment process later. What does that tell you. Somewhere on this thread you quoted that it was founded by Christians because of the Bill of Rights, well, since they ignored those rights in the original constitution it says the founding fathers did not concern themselves with the Bill of Rights or as you say what made it a Christian inspired document.

          • http://naver samurai

            Smilee, this last post of yours is so ridiculous that it made me laugh. Saying our founders just put this country together so they didn’t lose their property. That has got to be one of the most ignorant explinations of how this country was founded I’ve ever heard. To count elementary, middle, high school, and college. Neeeeed to be making that popping sound. You said Billy Graham is your source? I’ve never heard a pastor say such things about this country. Cite the source you got that from. I want to see that video or read the text. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

            P.S. We were founded a Christian nation.

        • Joe

          That’s what I call the “William Morales” argument, Marian. Morales was, some years ago, a Puerto Rican separatist terroist, who blew both hands and half his face off, when he was trying to build a bomb in his apartment. So….Since people are building bombs anyway, wouldn’t it be better if it were legal, so they could get ingredients, and maybe courses on bomb-building, so they wouldn’t have to resort to the risk of blowing themselves up?
          You miss the point, Marian. If the fetus is a person, as I and many others are convinced it is, then abortion’s no different from killing a one-year old (or a 50-year-old, for that matter). You can argue, of course, that a fetus isn’t a person, and that’s fine, but your argument falls apart if it is…and you have to understand that that’s where we who oppose legal abortion are (as they say) “coming from”.

          • NC

            Joe, would you rather a loving mother of two children die giving birth again rather than ridding her body of a mass of cells and continueing to be a loving mother of two?

          • Vigilant

            NC regurgitates, “Joe, would you rather a loving mother of two children die giving birth again rather than ridding her body of a mass of cells and continueing [sic] to be a loving mother of two?”

            Just like a pro-abortion advocate. This idiot takes the case that occurs with infinitesimally small frequency and tries to make a case for the vast majority of murders called “abortion.” That’s not just dirty pool, my friend, it’s intellectual dishonesty of the worst sort.

            In cases where the mother’s life is truly threatened, I think you’ll find that the normal person would opt on the side of abortion.

            And it’s more than a “mass of cells” sonny. It’s life, human life.

          • eddie47d

            Well Vigilant and others who attack the many thousands of OWS as fleabaggers as rapists and murderers when that has only happened a couple of times. See how you take an incident and blow it out of proportion and quite often…. In reference to you using “small frequencies”

          • Michael

            But what if that unwanted child joins the ranks of the 47% on Wellfare?

          • Vicki

            Michael says:

            But what if that unwanted child joins the ranks of the 47% on Wellfare?

            Murdering a child who MIGHT go on welfare is still murder. The actual problem to address there is the existence of welfare. That is a duty of charity and not government.

          • eddie47d

            Then Vickie why is there so many on welfare if charity works out so well? Apparently charity isn’t even coming close to doings it’s job. What are you doing to bring that pregnant woman into your home or see to her needs?

          • Vicki

            Eddie47d writes in a foolish attempt to guilt trip me:
            “What are you doing to bring that pregnant woman into your home or see to her needs?”

            To which I respond. Giving to charity. I even have an adopted child. what are YOU doing?

          • http://naver samurai

            Well said Vicki. Eddie, knock off the left wing extremist lies, rhetoric, and innuendo. You know Vicki makes sense. Since ed-duh has no facts at hand, so he tries to twist someones words. Classic liberal strategy. We aren’t falling for it ed-duh. NC, the only thing I can say about you is that the mass of cells that you have expunged from your body is the mass between your ears. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

          • Joe H.

            michael,
            Tell you what. We’ll give you the injection NOW just in case you might become a murderer later in life. with what you stated above, you should support that idea!

          • Vigilant

            Michael says, “But what if that unwanted child joins the ranks of the 47% on Wellfare [sic]?”

            Vicki answered your loaded question, sonny.

            Sounds like you are an advocate of eugenics. “Unwanted child” smacks of the same type of injustice that prompted people to say “illegitimate child.” How in the name of God can any child be illegitimate? It’s a sin just to think it.

            To rephrase your question, “But what if that unwanted child joins the ranks of the geniuses and great benefactors of this world?” If you kill the human being, you will never know if that child would have grown up to be a Hitler or an Albert Schweitzer, will you?

          • Vigilant

            eddie says, “Well Vigilant and others who attack the many thousands of OWS as fleabaggers as rapists and murderers when that has only happened a couple of times. See how you take an incident and blow it out of proportion and quite often…. In reference to you using “small frequencies”

            (1) You’re off subject dude. Alinsky would thank you for the attempt, albeit unsuccessful.

            (2) Tell me how many murders, rapes, diseases, arrests for disorderly conduct, gunshots, etc. occurred with the Tea Party gatherings and then maybe we can have a conversation.

          • Tom W.

            Very well said Joe!!! And only in that case vigilant, should the woman have the right to chose!

          • Tom W.

            (offensive post removed)

          • Tom W.

            C’est la vie Micheal!

          • Karolyn

            Tom – I hope you asked for God’s forgiveness for the offensive remark you posted!

        • Elaine

          Marian, I agree. .

          • http://naver samurai

            Murderer and believer of infanticide. You and Karolyn both. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

        • s c

          M, the first customer was probably a wannabe utopian politician who had plans to rule the world. Planned NonParenthood is a user and an abuser. Women are its VICTIMS. Politicians are P P’s PIMPS.

        • Karolyn

          Absolutely, Marian. Same thing with drug addiction. It has always existed and always will.

          • Tom W.

            (offensive sentence removed) Well it’s time for me to get ready for church, I’ll see if there’s time to chime back in before I have to leave! I’ve got to shower, eat breakfast, and catch the Jack Van Impe show at 8:00!!! That’d be a good show for you to catch Karlolyn, I just wonder if Jack has that big of a net?!!

          • http://naver samurai

            Sorry Karolyn, but I can’t find anywhere in the Bible where it says that Adam and Eve did drugs. Care to cite a source showing when drug addiction really started? FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

        • http://naver samurai

          Wanna bet? FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

          • Karolyn

            Are you betting me, samurai? If so, I would take that bet in a heartbeat! There will always be those who look for something to make life easier to bear, just like there will always be mental illness, disease and pain.

          • http://naver samurai

            Maybe Karolyn. There may be a woman ignorant enough to try the job herself, but I was talking about abortion clinics and the like. I can honestly say that there will not always be disease, pain, and mental illness. When Jesus comes back to earth, all those things, to count abortion, will be non-existant. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

        • NC

          Marain, “Abortions will never cease.” is a fact. Facts do not set well with this bunch of mossback conseratives.The fact that citizens will abort with clothes hangers on the bathroom floor or on a kitchen table by a “butcher” is just a “cost” of having a political stance as far as they are concerned.

          • http://naver samurai

            The murder of a child is still murdering a child, no matter where it is performed. They still have to answer to God for their actions. If you don’t want a baby, then use protection, don’t have sex, or abstain till you are married. No exceptions! No excuses! No straying from the path! FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

          • vicki

            NC writes:

            “Facts do not set well with this bunch of mossback conservatives.”

            I have noticed that facts sit so poorly with liberals that they will deny the existence of any fact that does not support their cause. For instance that murder of the most innocent amongst us is still MURDER.

          • http://naver samurai

            Well said Vicki. They live by lies and spew them out every time they open their mouths. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

        • Rebecca

          But Marian, even legal abortions aren’t “safe”. 40-60% of all women who have an abortion in a licensed facility will have some type of complication whether it be irregular bleeding, infection or even retained products of conception(that’s where part of the baby didn’t come out during the procedure). Those women have to go back to have a second surgery. Not to mention the mental and emotional reprocussions. So, legal it may be but safe it will never be.

          • http://naver samurai

            HHHHHooooorrrrraaaaahhhhh! FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

            P.S. Are you a nurse Rebecca?

          • Rebecca

            Retired nurse Samuri…I was a nurse in the field of OB/GYN for more than 20 years.

          • http://naver samurai

            HHHHHooooorrrrraaaaahhhhh! My wife Sook Young has been a psych nurse for 22 years. Keep up the good fight, fellow patriot! FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

      • John D. Winston

        Is God really a football fan. Which team is he rooting for. I guess that is why the 49ers lost – because they are from that sinful city, San Francisco.

        • http://naver samurai

          Actually, the 49ers lost because the Giants played the better game. Neeeeed to be making that popping sound. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

          P.S. You’re atheism and ignorance is showing.

    • Ted Crawford

      Yes Karoiyn, it’ only a “smallpart”, they only killed 300,000 babies last year! I find it interesting that many of the same people, present company included, that in the ’60′s were out in the street calling me a “baby killer”, those “babies” i killed came uncomfortably close to killing me on three occasions, and did render me unfit for further military duty, are now out in the street….well advocating for killing babies, who knew?

      • Tom W.

        Ted, did you know that there are more black babies aborted every week than the total number of black soldiers killed during the entire Viet Nam conflict?!!
        THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE SIR!!!
        God bless you!

        • s c

          Tom, never forget that fact. While you’re at it, don’t let a utopian forget that we have a black prez who has no qualms about black babies being murdered.
          I’d think it would be very uncomfortable trying to act ‘black and proud’ while politics lets someone like a prez act ‘innocent’ while he’s a main part of the murderous problem. It makes a STRONG case for the idea that he has NO conscience.

    • Warrior

      I guess “planned parenthood” may be doing too good of job. Oh well, we’ll just have to fill the ranks with illegals!

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fVseabUhg8M

    • http://html Bob

      B SH//

    • Vigilant

      “A little late with the Susan G. Komen news – just a gratuitous jab on abortions, which make up only part of Planned Parenthood’s services.”

      Karolyn, when it comes to Planned Parenthood abortions, the jabs are never gratuitous. The Komen/PP controversy was very directly concerned with abortions, so the remark is definitely not gratuitous.

      From http://www.lifenews.com/2011/09/27/congress-to-investigate-planned-parenthood-abortion-business/ :

      “Americans United for Life issued a report featuring a groundbreaking analysis of the nation’s largest abortion business and saying it has uncovered evidence of systemic financial irregularities within the abortion giant, which receives more than $363 million in federal and state taxpayer funding, and that Congress should investigate.

      “AUL staff combed through 20 years of Planned Parenthood financial data and the report documents the known and alleged abuses by Planned Parenthood, including the misuse of federal health care and family planning funds, failure to report criminal child sexual abuse, failure to comply with parental involvement laws, assisting those engaged in prostitution and/or sex trafficking, and dangerous misuse of the abortion drug RU-486.”

      • NC

        Vigilant, judging from the name of the AUL I would think that ANY money spent by the Planned Parenthood would be a waste of money.

        There is another name for “REPORTS” from rival factions! They are called “hatchet jobs.”

        • Vigilant

          You know, “Americans United for Life” sure has a better ring to it than “Americans United for Death,” an organizaton you would probably patronize.

          • NC

            VIGILANT, WHAT ABOUT A GROUP CALLED “MEN AND WOMEN UNITED FOR CONTROL OF THEIR OWN BODIES UNDER THE CONSTITUTION”? OR “SMALL GOVERNMENTS DON’T CONTROL PEOPLE’S LIVES” THAT SHOULD BE RIGHT DOWN YOUR ALLEY!!

          • Vigilant

            By your shouting, it’s good to see that I got to you.

            You perhaps never read the Declaration of Independence or the Constitution. The foremost of Natural Rights is the right to life. Abortion is the taking of that life.

            You and your ilk are the products of the self-esteem movement, which has done much more harm to human decency and responsibility than many other things. It’s about ME, about a self-centered ego trip that concerns itself with what makes ME happy in a Hedonistic way that disregards our obligations to others. Those “others” include the most innocent and defenseless of human existence.

            How utterly shameless (and indicative of the left) that the victims of violence and death are forgotten about in lieu of defending the criminals on Death Row or the criminals with a scalpel in their hands.

            So don’t talk to me about the Constitution when you don’t give a rat’s a$$ about anything other than what suits your pleasure.

          • NC

            VIGILANT, YOU SAID EARLIER THAT “NORMAL PEOPLE” WOULD OPT TO ALLOW A WOMAN AN ABORTION WHERE HER DEATH WOULD RESULT FROM BIRTH.
            WHAT PERCENTAGE OF THE SIGN CARRYING PRO-LIFE PEOPLE WOULD YOU SAY ARE “NORMAL PEOPLE” ON THE SUBJECT OR WANT ALL ABORTIONS STOPPED?

            IF THEY HAD ENOUGH VOTES WOULD THE WOMAN LIVE OR DIE?
            THAT’S WHAT PRO-CHOICE PEOPLE FEAR! THAT THE “MASSES” BECOME THE EXECUTIONER OF LIVING BREATHING CITIZENS WHO HAVE ALREADY “PAID THEIR TAXES” AND FACED LIFE PROBLEMS. YOU KNOW, CITIZENS(PREGNANT WOMEN)UNDER A CONSTITUTION DRAFTED WITH THE HOPE OF PROVIDING THEM (PREGNANT WOMWN) LIFE, LIBERTY AND THE PURSUIT OF HAPPINESS. THOSE WOMEN WHO READ IT AND HOPED THAT THAT IS WHAT IT MEANS!!

          • http://naver samurai

            Why don’t you look at this NC?

            http://www.realcatholictv.com

            Tell me what you think about abortion now. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

          • Vigilant

            NC continues the shouting with “WHAT PERCENTAGE OF THE SIGN CARRYING PRO-LIFE PEOPLE WOULD YOU SAY ARE “NORMAL PEOPLE” ON THE SUBJECT OR WANT ALL ABORTIONS STOPPED?”

            You obviously have me confused with someone who gives a damn. I render my own opinions, I don’t speak for others.

          • http://naver samurai

            Well NC, why don’t you tell us how many of them that say they support abortion really do? I’ll bet there are many there for political reasons and some are just femi-nazis from the NOW and other radical groups. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

    • NoCAGal

      hOW BRAINWASHED CAN ONE GIRL BE??

    • Joe H.

      karolyn,
      so what is with joe Biden??? He doesn’t make enough to give more than 680.00 to charity??? Hell, I gave more than that to Purple Hearts Vets and also to Ron Pauls campaign!!! Both men are pikers!!!

      • Palin16

        JoeH,
        Biden was actually one of the poorest senators. Somehow he has squandered all the money he made in Washington. No excuse though.

        • http://naver samurai

          Yea. I’ll bet all those night with ladies at hotels got to be pretty expensive. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

          • Palin16

            Biden makes $230,000 a year. What a waste of money.

          • http://naver samurai

            OMG! Counting my pension, Sook Young and I make less than that. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

    • http://www.amawb.org ambassador syed ahsani

      Vote for Ron Paul@R-TX) He is for closing US bases abroad thus reducing Petagon budget,thus allocaring funds for social secto-health,education etc
      Ambassor syed Ahsani,Arlinton,TX

    • Kathi

      Karolyn; you need to understand that Planned Parenthood is the largest abortion provider in the country. Check out the founder’s history. She’s a eugenicist. It’s a wolf in sheep’s clothing.

  • Deerinwater

    Better!

    • Tom W.

      Than what?!!

  • CP

    Mr. Krystal should actually apend some time with the OWS groups before he starts BRAGGING about how much crime and indecency is tolerated among them. OF course, if he had his way, I wouldn’t be allowed to write this, as I would be buried so deep in prison I would never see daylight.

    • Holly

      On the contrary, Mr. Crystal supports our constitutional rights. Our first amendment is the freedom of speech. It is liberal groups, which really aren’t liberal at all, that are wanting to pass legislation that will erode our freedom of speech. Think about it, freedom of speech isn’t to protect politically correct speech; it is to protect one’s right to speak their mind- no matter how offensive it might be to another. Just because Mr. Crystal is not a democrat or not a fan of Karl Marx, does not mean he would want to see you thrown in jail. Give me a break!

      • http://naver samurai

        Since the first 10 Amendmens are God given rights, the government cannot take them away from us, only God can. No matter how hard Obama bin Laden tries. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

        • Marian

          Amen

          • Elaine

            This is the most racist site I have ever seen so sad.

          • Vigilant

            ALERT! ALERT! ALERT! THE RACE CARD HAS BEEN OFFICIALLY PLAYED.

            And, as usual, gratuitously and without relation whatsoever to the thread of conversation.

          • Joe H.

            Elaine,
            I would BET your eyes are BROWN!!!

          • http://naver samurai

            Elaine must be drunk on the kool aid. I never mentioned anything about race in my post. I know I may need new glasses, but my eyes aren’t that bad. Must be a lib. Notice how she(?) played the race card? Classic liberal strategy. If they don’t hit you with a personal attack, they’ll play the race card. Don’t even begin to tell me that I’m a racist because I don’t like Obama bin Laden. That’s a very old and refuted arguement. Neeeeed to be making that popping sound. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

        • smilee

          Sami sami sami

          God did not have a vote on any of the first 10 amendments or any part of the Constitution.

          • Joe H.

            how do you know, smiley?? god moves mans hearts to great things! his might have been the only vote!

          • http://naver samurai

            Is this why when nothing was accomplished after 4 – 5 weeks and they wanted to stop trying, Ben Franklin stood up and said that they should pray for God’s help. So after that, they would go to a nearby church everyday after lunch for an hour of worship and prayer. Notice that when they started this, they had the Constitution completed in less than a week. So without God’s help, they were ready to quit. With God’s help, they were able to quickly complete the task at hand. What does that tell you, atheist? Care to cite a source showing where I’m wrong or are you going to keep performing the classic liberal strategy of personally attacking me? Haven’t made that popping sound yet? FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

          • smilee

            Sammie

            The Bill of rights was not a part of the original Constitution, Ben Franklin was not a party to the Bill of Rights, this shows clearly how ignorant you really are of history. Second I am not an atheist I am a Christian, you seem to have a real problem with using your assumptions and wishful thinking as facts, that is probably why you get so led astray in your thinking and usually wrong.

          • http://naver samurai

            First, you are no Christian by how you talk and present yourself. Second, the Constitution had the Bill of Rights added to it before it was ratified by all 13 states. Shows how little you know of our history. Third, get your facts straight before you post. I said Ben Franklin talked about praying and worship, not the Bill of Rights. I guess reading isn’t your strong point. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

      • Holly

        Yes, I am married and see how my husband is treated daily. He works 60-70 hours a week (if not more). He deserves every penny he makes and more. We pay taxes–no refunds here!

        • Tom W.

          He is truly a blessed man girlfriend!

        • Karolyn

          And what does that have to do with anything??

          • Joe H.

            And right on cue miss anti-man shows up!!!! you sure you AREN’T butch, karolyn???

          • libertytrain

            Joe, was that ending sentence really necessary….

          • JeffH

            :) , the “butch” part may have been unnecessary but the anti-man was pretty accurate…

          • libertytrain

            Sorry Jeff, on that kind of comment as above, I just see a bunch of foolish little boys – not mature patriots trying to make a difference.

          • http://naver samurai

            We all have our human failings, but we try to make a difference. If we don’t try, then nothing will be accomplished. I know I have my failings, but I continue the good fight. Let’s keep up the good fight, fellow patriots! We are winning a little more every day! FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

          • Joe H.

            libertytrain,
            with the way karolyn goes about her “holier than thou” attitude, YES! you know I don’t usually post like that liberty, but I’ve grown quite tired of her man-demeaning, God trampling, religeon is bad, posts here! so, yes it was nessesary!!!

          • libertytrain

            Sorry, Joe, I don’t think you gained anything by that kind of insult.

          • Joe H.

            Libertytrain,
            perhaps not, and if I insulted YOU in any way, it was not intended. I will not, however retract.

          • libertytrain

            Joe, You didn’t insult me, I just find it tiresome that people who profess on these sites to be Christians throwing out ugly-mean spirited statements at other people. Not a good example for the non-Christians who laugh at us Christians. And some of us prove their points. Meaningful banter is one thing, name calling is something else.

          • http://naver samurai

            Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha! Good one, fellow patriot! FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

          • http://naver samurai

            That reply was for Joe H. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

          • Tom W.

            Good one Joe!!! She is definitely the anti-man! I’ve come to the conclusion, forgive me ladies, that God created women for men’s torture and His amusement!!! Who say’s the Almighty doesn’t have a sense of humor?!

          • Tom W.

            If you are responding to my post Karlolyn, I’m sure that you wouldn’t have a clue!!!

    • Dntmkmecmoverther

      I have spent time with the OWS folks; I couldn’t put up with the stupidity or the stench. These fleabag hostels are an eyesore and a health hazard. Just what do you find so redeeming about such a pathetic group of people?

      • Tom W.

        Probably getting raped!

    • http://naver samurai

      I don’t think he’s talking about the crimes they tolerate, just the ones they have committed on the books. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

      P.S. It’s the Tea Party and not the OWS that represents America.

      • Tom W.

        Amen samurai!!! Say good moning to sook for me! God bless you two!!!

        • http://naver samurai

          She says hello back to you. Time to continue the good fight. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

      • Deerinwater

        “P.S. It’s the Tea Party and not the OWS that represents America.”

        Well let us say for accuracy sake, the tea party represent American WASP interest. There is something to be said for saying what you mean and meaning what you say that can’t be under valued.

        • Tom W.

          And you represent the GLBT community Deer! Glad you finally chimed in , I was beginnin’ to worry about ya! What’s the matter, zipper get yer tongue?!!

        • Joe

          The Constitution, Deer, is for all Americans, and *that* is what the TEA Party represents. Your racism is showing, I fear.

          • Deerinwater

            Demographic is what it’s showing Joe, an actual accounting.

            Until the Tea Party claims and accepts all of it’s parts, it will be incomplete like anything else that refuses to take inventory and take responsibility for all it’s many parts.

            I could claim, I am the world and the world is I but that would not make it so. Why kid ourselves about realities and to what end might it serve? Do you really need that elevated position for any other reason besides validation and some needed sense of righteousness ?

            The political movement know at the Tea Party “would like to represent ALL Americans” is probably as close to accurate as you might get, while still not telling the true story as the Tea Party refuses to accept all Americans. Is that not so?

          • David Roberts

            It appears that deerinwater has no concept as to what The Tea Party is all about. He seems to be operating on Left Wing talking points, which are rarely based on truth.

        • rosina

          mAYBE YOU DO NOT UNDERSTAND THE MEANING OF ‘TEA’
          TAXED ENOUGH ALREADY?????
          AND MANY PEOPLE, BLACK, WHITE GREEN ETC. BELIEVE THEY ARE.
          AT LEAST, THOSE WHO STILL PAY TAXES DO.
          IT IS THE 50% WHO DO NOT WHO HATE IT SEEMINGLY.

        • Joe H.

          deermakingwater,
          Then how do you explain the large number of BLACKS in the group??? THEY certainly aren’t WASP!!

        • http://naver samurai

          Bzzzzz! Sorry babe in the wood, but you are wrong! My wife is a full fledged member of the Tea Party and I can guarantee yo that she isn’t a white, anglo-saxon, protestant. The Tea Party is made up of various individuals from all walks of life. We have people that are well off, middle class, poor, and some haven’t had work since our factories started going belly up in 2009. OMG! Another lib playing the race card. Classic liberal strategy. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

    • Tom W.

      Thank God that it’s not up to me CP!!!

    • Michael

      I actually did, just to see with my eyes how hypocritical they were. Here they are standing up against people with money, on their Apple device, drinking Starbucks, wearing high end apparel. I was walking with three of these protesters and a homeless person asked for a handout. All three walked right by saying, why should I give to that person? I gave the homeless man 5 dollars and turned to ask the protesters that you three are asking for something that is not yours, but you think it is your right to have. (rich people’s money). Then you walk by someone who asks you for money and you ignore him. This is why the Wall Street people have no clue.

  • DED

    Obama has not appointed a straight woman to any post but just look at the women he has apointed. Does this answer the question?

    • Tom W.

      You gotta admit, you wouldn’t want to bowl them!!!

    • http://naver samurai

      Please, I just had breakfast. Don’t let my imagination run wild like that. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

    • Steve Wilson

      It’s this kind of inane attack that makes the far right look silly. No straight women? Hillary Clinton didn’t cross your mind? I don’t think either side is attacking women – that’s political speak and it’s pure BS. What’s worse is I think most people know it is ridiculous but after hearing the mantra dozens upon dozens of time, they are willing to incorporate it into their conversations as if it actually meant something. It goes to prove how powerful propaganda can be.

      The idea that keeping abortion a private issue decided between a woman and her doctor is hardly an attack on women. Instead, it presupposes that women should get to make those decisions themselves. That we somehow believe that they are adults with free will and that we should trust them to make the best decisions for their situation. Of course, those opposed don’t trust women.

      I’ve never heard any Democrat – or any person for that matter, say that want to “rip up” traditional marriage. Instead, I’ve heard them say that they want to extend those rights to all people. It is simply not accurate to suggest that extending marriage to gay couples will in some way damage traditional marriage. I think the infidelities of Arnold Schwarzenegger, John Ensign, Mark Sanford, Christopher Lee, Marc Souder, Newt Gingrich, John Edwards, Bill Clinton, Jim McGreevey, David Patterson and the list could go on and on.

      And those are just the people who we vote for. Are we really going to let them tell us how to live our lives?

      • http://naver samurai

        Traditional marriage is the only true kind of marriage and no other. The women you have mentioned may be straight, but they sure don’t look it. Second, show me somewhere in the Constitution that covers abortion or mentions abortion. Third, don’t talk about the gays and their beliefs. It seems you are not schooled on what they are really trying to do. Care to cite a source that backs up anything you have said? FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

        • Tom W.

          We’re under attack samurai!!! Cover me bro, I’m goin’ in!

          • NC

            TOM W: We’re under attack Samurai. Cover me bro. I’m going in!!”
            Sounds like two 6 years olds playing in the floor!! Do you have your cereal or put on your camo makeup first thing in the morning??

            AND DON’T FORGET TO PICK UP THOSE PLASTIC BULLETS IN THE FLOOR!!

          • Joe H.

            if they are it’s a good trick, that playing IN the floor!!! Or did you mean ON the floor? i never know with you proggish types!!

          • http://naver samurai

            Since you have never served, you can never possibly know, NC. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

          • http://naver samurai

            I got you covered Tom. Remember, 3 – 5 seconds then hit the dirt. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

        • John D. Winston

          What does a person who is a Lesbian look like. You have stated that all Obama’s female appointees are lesbians. Where do you get that info? You seem to be a person who does not want to be confused by facts.

          You have a right to your own opinions, but not to your own facts!

          • http://naver samurai

            It is true that I can’t tell who is gay or straight by looking at them, but watch how they present themselves and how they act. If you do, them you can pretty much tell who is a woman and who is butch. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

        • smilee

          Sammie

          “The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.” Abortion is not mentioned and all those not mentioned then become covered under the tenth amendment, read it. The court did however conclude that abortion is covered by a woman’s right to privacy which then allows it based on if I remember right the fourteenth amendments.

          • http://naver samurai

            Bzzzzz! The 14th Amendment does not cover that, but the justices asked the lawyers for Roe how their case would be if they used the 14th Amendment to protect the life of the child. She said her case wouldn’t pass the court. Neeeeed to study a little harder there smilee. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

          • http://naver samurai

            Oh, I should repost my source for you.

            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PKaVuymKg3A&feature=related

            FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

            P.S. It is titled Feminists for Life answers Roe Attorney.

      • Tom W.

        Hillary’s straight?!! That why Bill was making time with Monica! Hill was always tied up (Pun intended!) with Janet, Donna, Madeleine, and the rest of Slick Willie’s girl’s club!!!

        • Ted Crawford

          It was pretty clear just who wore the “pants” in that family wasn’t it?

          • Tom W.

            VERY well said Ted!!! Is that a big ole’ butt or what?!!

        • eddie47d

          What do all the big butted women on this site think about the several attacks against big butted women over the last couple of months? I think some of your colleagues have declare war on you and it looks like you will just sit there and take it. Are you use to the insults or don’t you even know when you’re being smacked down?

          • Karolyn

            edddie – Don’t you know that it is only liberal women who have big butts or are less than beautiful? I’m sure some of these guys posting are real winners too! :-)

          • Palin16

            It’s easy Karolyn…compare Sarah to Pelosi or Napolitano. On second thought, ewww!

          • libertytrain

            Karolyn, I am not of the liberal persuasion, but I do have the “liberal” problem. Of course I was born that way and my family were extreme leftist demos – so perhaps it came with the gene pool. :)

          • Vicki

            Since they can’t possibly know which of us have big butts and you have not provided any definition of how big a big butt would be it is really hard to bother to take offense even if we were inclined to.

          • Karolyn

            The point, Vicki, is why do people have to bring looks into a political debate? Of course, I do know that many have to use childishness in their posts. It’s like they’re little boys.

          • libertytrain

            Yep.

          • Palin16

            Ever watch the Kennedy-Nixon debate video? Why do you suppose Kennedy barely won one of the closest elections in history? Could it have been looks or charisma? What’s good for the gander is good for the goose.

          • http://naver samurai

            This could also be one reason so many women voted for Obama bin Laden. I remember watching on the local news last November, asking women why they voted for Obama bin Laden? Some said because he was more handsome than McCain. Well, McCain is older than Obama bin Laden, but with age comes experience, wisdom, and knowledge. Things that Obama bin Laden seems to lack. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

          • vicki

            Karolyn writes:

            The point, Vicki, is why do people have to bring looks into a political debate?

            That is a question, not a point. The point (that I was making) is that no insult can have any effect on you if you do not allow it. This is particularly easy when the person commenting on the size of my butt has no possible knowledge about it’s size.

          • eddie47d

            Some say McCain has lost his experience and knowledge.

          • http://naver samurai

            At least McCain lost his, but Obama bin Laden never had any to begin with. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

      • Holly

        As a person who believes abortion kills an unborn child (medical fact), I believe that as long as abortion is legal than the medical provider should be required to educate (The word “doctor” comes from the Latin “docere” meaning to teach) the woman on the procedure and offer the woman the chance to see her unborn baby. PP and other so-called ‘women’s rights’ groups are against this education. Why? Well, not because of cost (they have sonogram machines in place anyway, as they are used to ensure the entire fetus was removed) but because they know that women are less likely to go forward with the abortion once they see their child. Abortion, no matter your belief on whether or not it should remain legal, is a money maker for all of those who provide the service. It does not benefit them to have fewer abortions.

        • Vigilant

          Holly, your points are unassailable, and I challenge any pro-abortionist on this site to try to excuse away what you have said.

          My hat is off to you!

        • Vigilant

          Holly, here it is some hours later and I still don’t see any retort from the pro-murder crowd. Guess your posting was right on the mark!

        • http://naver samurai

          Well said! You hit the target center mass on that one. I also challenge anyone to try to rebut your post. Ooops! We better watch out for Rob “Wrote the check yet” Smith. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

        • smilee

          Holly

          I do not know of anyone opposed to any of those things being done what they are opposed to is being forced to have to do them. Isn’t that government control of their lives what most on here do not want except those many times they want government to control what they do not approve of, then it is OK. What they really mean is government should control others lives because I do not approve of what they do, all in the name of liberty not yours, just theirs.

          • GregS

            smilee,

            Planned Parenthood, NARAL, et al., have ALWAYS opposed ANY and ALL state laws that require abortionists to show the woman an ultrasound of her unborn child before an abortion, even if she is allowed to refuse it.

          • http://naver samurai

            Very true Greg, but people like smilee just never learn. They’re nothing more than parasites. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

      • Tom W.

        You mean keeping murder a private issue between a woman and her eugenisist don’t you Steve?!!

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3b1sH2V21E

      • Joe

        “Extend those rights to all people”. Really? Does that include some 45-year-old who wants to marry his 20-year-old daughter? Or are they not “people” in your view? Ohhh….I get it. The left wants to extend those rights to all people who don’t offend “the left”! Of course! And by the way, homosexuals have a perfect right to marry…one man, with one woman.
        What gives homosexuals, or the government for the matter of that, the legitimate power to force (and yes, it is *force*) a millenia-old cultural perpsective? Western culture says homosexuality is wrong, and has said so for thousands of years. There are cultures that see it differently, and for them it’s fine, but I think that, if you choose to live in a culture that you know frowns on a particular action, you ought to respect that…or go find another place, another culture, to inhabit.

        • smilee

          Because the government is governed by our Constitution not a millennium of your perceived practice and the Constitution is silent on marriage but not on discrimination which it does not allow, simply put, gay marriage is constitutional because it does not allow for that discrimination and the FRR says it is Obama that is trampling the Constitution when in fact few of them understand the Constitution.

          • http://naver samurai

            Bzzzzz! Show me where gay marriage is mentioned in the Constitution. DOMA passsed under Clinton was deemed Constitutional. Ergo, your arguement falls flat again, like always. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

      • Vigilant

        “I don’t think either side is attacking women – that’s political speak and it’s pure BS.”

        Wake up, Mr. Wilson. Leftie attacks on Conservative women are well known.

        • NC

          Vigilant, you asked me to visit a site that turned out to be a How To BE A Catholic site. I have no desire to be a Catholic! From what I know about that sect is that they have a go between from mortals to God? Why a middle man? I’ve seen his house and staff and that seems awfully expensive with no better guarntee than being a Methodist. Thanks anyway!!

          • Vigilant

            Duh, NC, I never asked you to visit any such site nor have I linked to one.

            Reading has never been one of your strong points, apparently.

      • barry@studebakersite.com

        Hitlery Clinton a “STRAIGHT woman” LOL!!!!!!!!
        Having children and a meaningless marriage to a philandering politician did not make her a straight woman any more than it made Eleanor Roosevelt one.
        Maybe you mean a straight Alinskyite socialist, like Eleanor was.

        • smilee

          “meaningless marriage” who gives you the right to make such a statement when they say their marriage does have meaning. The fact is you do not have a clue as to what their marriage is or is not.

      • Palin16

        The Hildebeast is straight? Where did you get that idea? When she was a student at Wellesley college, an all girl’s school, she claimed it was an “eye opening experience”. Then, while campaigning for president, she remarked “as senator from NY, my office door has always been open to gays and lesbians, and as president I intend to keep that policy.” Why do you suppose Bubba had to look elsewhere to get his jolies?
        http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/juicy_bits/2005/06/the_truth_about_hillary.single.html

    • Karolyn

      What does a woman’s looks or her sexual preference have to do with anything? (not that your post necessarily has any basis)

      • http://naver samurai

        Well Karolyn, looks have nothing to do with her job, but her sexual preferences do. They effect her thinking, morals, and ethics. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

        • Karolyn

          Sexual preference has nothing to do with morals and ethics! Gays and lesbians are not en masse immoral or unethical. I would bet you even have some in your own church. “Judge not…” samurai!

          • http://naver samurai

            How are they not immoral or unethical when their way of life is a sin in the eyes of God? Sin is immoral and unethical, right? FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

          • smilee

            Sammie

            They are just as much a child of God as you or I are. they were born that way and I do not believe God made any junk not even you much as that is hard to understand in your case as you are always sitting in judgment of your fellow man, which Jesus said not to do.

          • http://naver samurai

            Same old lies, eh smilee? God did not make them that way. That is an overused and debunked arguement. Homosexuality is a sin, so God would not create them that way. Any Christian can tell you that. They may be fellow human beings, but we areto hate sin and abhor evil. Ergo, hate their lifestyle and not them. Why are you bringing up queers when the subject is something totally different? Classic liberal strategy to change the subject when having no facts or sources. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

          • http://naver samurai

            BTW smilee, show me a source to were they have found a gay gene. I’ll give you a hint, it doesn’t exist. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

          • http://naver samurai

            Since we are talking about the left wing wackos waging war on women and the unborn, here is a video showing a person who went through mental problems from her abortion:

            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7014Ljr38ds&feature=related

            FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

          • http://naver samurai

            Here is one that shows abortion policies can be used to threaten someone’s job, if their faith is different that left wing wacko beliefs:

            http://www.radio.foxnews.com//toddstarnes/top-stories/congressman-says-hospital-guilty-of-abortion-coersion

            FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

  • barbara

    the war on women is republican. not one congress person voted for the fair pay act and know they want to get rid of birth control. less government should mean less repulicans.

    • http://naver samurai

      Instead of just attacking the right, look at the left. Which party is waging war on women with abortion, breaking up traditional marriage, and supporting femi-nazi groups? It sure isn’t the republicans. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

      • http://naver samurai

        BTW, Sook Young gets paid more than I do. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

        • smilee

          That’s not hard to believe!!

          • http://naver samurai

            Sorry smilee, but my wife is a nurse with 22 years experience and I started as a teacher with no experience, so who do you think gets paid more? I’me not taking my pension into account. Neeeeed to quit trolling after me and get a life. BTW, here is a source that goes with the war on women issue:

            http://www.lifenews.com/2011/10/27/clinic-workers-laugh-as-woman-injured-in-botched-abortion

            Let’s see if you are so smug after reading this one. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

      • Tom W.

        Barack’s bowling alley babes!

      • eddie47d

        Republicans held down women for centuries and within this country Samurai. It was the “femi-nazi’s”(your term) who fought long and hard for the right of women to vote. It certainly wasn’t the Conservative woman in the forefront of that battle. It was the “femi-nazi’s” (your term) who asked for equal pay for equal work not the Republican Party. It was the Right who demanded that women stay home (you know:barefoot and pregnant)instead of being able to attend college and advance herself. Yes it was those femi-nazi’s(your term) in the 60′s who demanded equal rights for women but the Republicans (Conservatives) labeled them as troublemakers. Sure is odd how so many strong women broke through the Glass Ceiling a few years after those femi-nazi’s (your term) fought for those equal rights. Those femi-nazi’s(your term) blazed a trail for all women and all you can do is slander them as femi-nazi’s (your term). It may have been wonderful to be a Conservative back then where the wife could stay home and take care of the children.Yet not all families could afford to have the wife stay home with mounting debt and not all women desire to have a large abundance of children or any at all. I doubt if there are many women who would give up the choices they have today if it would mean taking away so many rights they have achieved. They need to thank those femi-nazi’s (your term) who gave them this greater freedom to be equal and have the ability to achieve more. Now term femi-nazi is inappropriate and disgusting and I would call them Patriots and Champions for the rights of women to choose their own destiny in life. One other thing there is no break up of traditional marriage for it can be as sound as you want to make it. You can choose to make it work or you can choose to make it fail.My wife and I are equal partners although with different household obligations and will have 40 years of marriage in August.

        • Vigilant

          eddie, in your blind tirade against Conservatives in general, you might want to consider that Woodrow Wilson, the progressive par excellence, was guilty of many of the ills you speak of.

          “What Wilson’s incumbency can be credited with is enforcing segregation, inspiring the Ku Klux Klan to a resurgence, delaying women’s suffrage, and the participation in the Treaty of Versailles which almost guaranteed World War II.”

          http://history.factoidz.com/americas-worst-presidents-woodrow-wilson/

        • Karolyn

          Thank you for that eddie. You said a mouthful!

        • eddie47d

          Thanks for the trip through history Vigilant. Woodrow Wilson was no liberal and not much of a Progressive either. I don’t respect him for saying we wouldn’t go to war and then puts us in war. What a douche!He’s more like a Nixon who campaigned in getting us out of Vietnam and then turned around and endorsed it. He said” Anyone who can’t end a war in 4 years doesn’t deserve to be President”. 7 years later the war finally ended. Hypocrites all and Nixon endorsed spying on Americans too and stiffled free speech. Liberals don’t like Wilson and his policies and don’t endorse those policies today.

          • Joe H.

            eddie,
            If you think progs like bubba clinton didn’t “spy” on americans you are dilusional!!! All politicical presidents have! Put something in that wart between your shoulders!!

        • http://naver samurai

          Bzzzzz! Wrong answer ed-duh! The femi-nazis are the ones that belong to the NOW and other wacko groups. Susan B. Anthony is no femi-nazi. They are 2 totally different animals. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

      • smilee

        s neither left or right, most women would disagree with you that is why the majority of women vote democrat as they see the republicans as more than willing to take away their rights

        • http://naver samurai

          Same old refuted lies, eh smilee? FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

    • Dntmkmecmoverther

      @barbara: you must not get out much Barb. The dems for years have been against women: pro abortion (which leads to the highest incidence of breast and cervical cancers…make sure you send a nice ‘thank you’ to all your dems for that!) Anti Family, High taxes so that both parents MUST work; Regulations out the wazoo so that jobs are unavailable. Need I go on?

      • Tom W.
      • Joe

        There’s something coming down the pike that I’ve been anticipating with a combination of sorrow and glee. It goes on all over the world, but now it’s beginning to be an issue here in the US. That is, abortion for the purpose of sex-selection. Women are beginning to abort female babies, expressly because they *are* female. (This might be because we have so many folks here, these days, from cultures wherein boys are valued more highly than girls, but the reasons don’t really matter.) From what I’ve heard and read, the folks who so staunchly insist that a woman has a right to an abortion for any reason or no reason at all, are starting to say “Well, yeah, but not for *THAT* reason!” In fact (though I can’t provide a source, so it might not be so)I believe I read that some (female, and “feminist”) Governor, in the Middle West, was trying to get her legislature to outlaw abortion for sex-selection. I have to say, I love it when they eat their own. (Just wait until we isolate the gene that predisposes to homosexuality (if there is such a thing), and the first woman says “I don’t want a homosexual child; abort it.” The Left will go quite shchizoid on that one.)

        • eddie47d

          Although a person may or may not be a homosexual at birth and I doubt if that can be determined at this time. So your statement that a woman would abort a homosexual fetus is absurd and an outright lie.

          • Vigilant

            “So your statement that a woman would abort a homosexual fetus is absurd and an outright lie.”

            No eddie, it’s an opinion, just like your statement.

          • gary

            Eddie he didn’t say that it could be determined now.
            Do you honestly believe that a woman who will abort her baby for simply because it is her choice would not abort her baby for any other reason? Come on!

        • GregS

          Excellent point, Joe!

          • http://naver samurai

            I second that motion! FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

      • amwa

        What a bunch of HOGWASH.

        • http://naver samurai

          Care to cite a source about that? FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

    • Holly

      I do not support this. As a woman, if I want to make as much as my male counterpart, I better be as aggressive as he in the pay negotiation discussion. Let the free market win! I work for a company that has a woman as the president, followed by 5 female vice presidents and only 1 male vice president. The branch managers are all also women. Where’s
      the fairness for the men? Oh, wait, there is none. … Let the free market work. The answer for women is not to create more job hampering regulations, which Democrats are so good at, but is to let the free market speak.

      • Tom W.

        The glass ceiling has been replaced with concrete! Bill Shakespeare had it sooo right, “Hell hath no fury….”

    • Tom W.

      The last time I checked barb, Ms. Pelosi was doing quite well!

      • Ted Crawford

        Well there is the fact that she is restricted to closed top conveyances. They fear in an open topped one her lips would beat her eyebrows clean off!

        • Tom W.

          LOL, LOL, LOL!!! Quit it Ted! You’re killin’ me here!!!

        • Joe H.

          Or get stuck in that “dimple” on her chin? you know, her navel!!!

    • Tom W.

      no whining barb!!!

  • FreedomFighter

    R. Madcow, Obama and few others in one swipe,,,,well done

    Laus Deo
    Semper Fi

    • Dntmkmecmoverther

      I got your six anytime…

    • Tom W.

      I thought so too FF!!! He had his two edged sword out today!

      • Tom W.

        It dices, it slices, it even makes Julianne fries!!!

    • http://naver samurai

      HHHHHooooorrrrraaaaahhhhh! Keep up the good fight, fellow patriot! FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

      P.S. I think that Hillary and Michelle bin Laden kind of fit that bill also.

      • Tom W.

        And they would make good fish food also!

        • http://naver samurai

          “D’oh!” :-) FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

  • http://BenCrystal Gottaplenty

    Why would you be thrown into prison for stating facts? That comes later if Obummer gets re elected

    • Tom W.

      Let’s pray on that one Gotta! GOD FORBID!!!

    • http://naver samurai

      That’s a big “IF.” FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

      P.S. Obama bin Laden has 2 chances of winning. They are slim and none and slim is walking out the door.

      • smilee

        Pure wishful thinking, you do a lot of that!

        • http://naver samurai

          Prove me wrong. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

    • FreedomFighter

      “Why would you be thrown into prison for stating facts? That comes later if Obummer gets re elected”

      In a tyranny speaking the truth is a revolutionary act, punishable by imprisonment and or death.

      Laus Deo
      Semper Fi

      • http://naver samurai

        “Those who are not ruled by God, will be ruled by tyrants.”

        William Penn

        “Power tends to corrupt, and asolute pwer corrupts absolutely.”

        Baron Acton 1834-1902

        I guess you all get the gist. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

        • Tom W.

          Don’t forget Patrick Henry samurai! “Give me liberty, or give me death!!!”
          FOR GOD AND COUNTRY BRO!!!

          • Palin16

            The dumbocrats turned the message into “give me librium or give me meth!”

          • Joe H.

            Palin16,
            i thought it was “give me welfare or I’ll cry”!

          • Rebecca

            I’m not positive who said this but I think it was Thomas Jefferson:

            “A government strong enough to give you everything you want is strong enough to take everything you have”

          • http://naver samurai

            Well said Rebecca. I hope to see you on this site more often. It’s good to have someone on the side of good that is so intelligent. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

      • eddie47d

        Those who abuse God’s rules and wage continual and false wars for greed and ambitions is no friend of God’s. The tyrants are among us and within every President who advocates for war. Which brings us to absolute power and all corrupt Presidents who wage unnecessary wars for the Military Industrial Complex.

        • Nadzieja Batki

          And you are the chosen one who will make the determination of who is God’s friend.You believe such nonsense.

        • eddie47d

          Why are our Presidents and military leaders always invoking God’s name in going to war then. Who allows them to determine if God wants these wars or not? Do THEY have a special pipeline to God? Do you?

        • s c

          e, I wouldn’t call this an ‘out of the mouths of babes’ moment, but you just did an excellent job of calling your prez CORRUPT and a card-carrying member of the MIC. Thanks! You FINALLY got a definition RIGHT.

        • Vicki

          I find it interesting that eddie47d objects to being forced to go to war but seems to have no qualms about forcing others to pay for his pet (non war?) projects.

      • barry@studebakersite.com

        So true. Dissident attorney Edgar J. Steele has already been railroaded into the federal pen on fabricated charges for the rest of his life because of his controversial books & articles. Many more will follow after Nov.

  • Danubius

    waste of time to reply to Karolyns ! – funny, that we do no see Obama or Buffett giving the difference (between the current tax rate and their proposed taxes) THEY want everyone to pay, to Charity or to anyone else …. I guess it is just the CLASSIC “OPM” they want to “steal and give away” !!!

    • Tom W.

      Charity comes outta the goodness of peoples hearts Danubius! I know that I’m preachin’ to the choir here but governments have never exised taxes for charity, it is called tribute for a reason! If the government would quit robbing the people maybe they could afford to be a little more charitable!!!

      “Go to now, ye rich men, weep and howl for your miseries that shall come upon you. Your riches are corrupted, and your garments are motheaten. Your gold and silver is cankered; and the rust of them shall be a witness against you, and shall eat your flesh as it were fire. Ye have heaped treasure together for the last days. Behold, the hire of the labourers who have reaped down your fields, which is of you kept back by fraud, crieth: and the cries of them which have reaped are entered into the ears of the Lord of sabaoth. Ye have lived in pleasure on the earth, and been wanton; ye have nourished your hearts, as in a day of slaughter. Ye have condemned and killed the just; and he doth not resist you. Be patient therefore, brethren, unto the coming of the Lord. Behold, the husbandman waiteth for the precious fruit of the earth, and hath long patience for it, until he receive the early and latter rain. Be ye also patient; stablish your hearts: for the coming of the Lord draweth nigh.” – James 5:1-8

      So, how’s your 401K doin’?!!

    • Joe

      It was Emperor Palpatine – ooops, sorry, Obama – who said “There comes a point when you have enough money.” Leave aside, for the moment, the question of who gets to decide when that point comes for any particular person, and whence comes the legitimate power to decide that. Obama is a multi-millionaire. I suggest that a family of four can live decently on, say, a million dollars. (Of course that doesn’t allow for $50,000 underwear-buying sprees, or vacations in Martha’s Vinyard, but still, they can live at least “decently”.) So….I challenge Palpatine to say “I’m giving everything I have over a million to the US Treasury, and I’ll take only a dollar a year for service as President. I will continue to give anything over a million, year after year, from any income my family makes from books, speeches, or any other outside income source.” In other words, Your Magnificence, put your money where…well, you know the rest.

      • eddie47d

        That would be fine with me but let’s make sure they all put their money where their mouth is. Mitt Romney could live nicely on a cool million too and all the other Corporate raiders who milked our system and wrecked our economy. I say nail all their hides to the wall until they squeal like the pigs they are.

        • s c

          e, either, you’re not sucking down that utopian cruel ade as much lately, OR you’ve rubbed up against just enough reality to change your ways. Now, while we’re at it and almost seeing eye-to-eye, throw in Al (duh) Gore with those who ‘have too much’ or abuse others via money, and we almost have a reason to be civil with each other. Did hell freeze over?

          • JeffH

            sc, don’t be fooled by eddie.

            Mr. Livingston put eddie on probation and he’s been a little more careful with his words for fear of a permanent ban from this website. That’s the only reason he seems a bit different…he most certainly still defends the indefensible POTUS and his liberal and Marxist clan of clowns and still has that “bass ackwards” liberal mind.

          • Joe H.

            sc,
            eddie will NEVER change THAT much!!! That would be like a leopard changing it’s spots! Ain’t gonna happen!!

          • http://naver samurai

            I agree with you Joe and Jeff. You can’t change oars in midsteam. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

  • Maurice Richard

    What right wing ultra conservatives do not tell you is that the funds to Planned Parenthood were earmarked for breast cancer screening and were carefully controlled so that money went directly for its intended use. This was another attack from the replublicans to defund planned parenthood under the guise that the money was being used for abortions. Again another attack on the rights of women.

    • Marty S.

      It is well known that the Planned Un-parenthood centers are nothing more than easy access to murder your children efficiently. Children are a big responsibility but also persons to be cherished. In this society they are an inconvenience and are like garbage to be thrown away. When Christ comes back in the second coming folks it will not be at all like the first time he will be cleaning house and he will start with the abortionists.

      • Tom W.

        Preach Marty, preach!!!

        • Marty S.

          I’ll pray for you buddy.

    • Tom W.

      And you actually believe that BS Maurice?!! PP was created by eugenisists to control the black population, their objectives haven’t changed. How many PP facilities do you see in the rich white neighborhoods bro?!!

      • eddie47d

        Because rich white neighborhoods have insurance and enough money to buy their own health care. I bet their are plenty of those suburban women who use the Planned Parenthood facilities for their own conveniences when needed. Don’t fool yourself.

        • Joe H.

          Why NOT??? Their tax money PAYS for it!!

    • http://naver samurai

      I see we are drunk on kool aid. What is worse, defunding unplanned parenthood or having Obama bin Laden hold up $4 billion dollars in medicare/medicaid payments to people that need them? That is what he did to Indiana. We still defunded it. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

      P.S. I guess that this would be an attack on women and the poor by Obama bin Laden.

  • Ted Crawford

    How odd that a man who so loudly proclaimed a couple of years ago that “America is NOT a Christian Nation”, would evoke a statement, out of context though it is, by Christ to promote anything! He seems to have forgotten another one however. “My Kingdom is NO part of this world”!

    • Tom W.

      Here, here Ted!!! EXCELLENT POINT MY MAN!

      • Tom W.

        How do you say, hypocrite!!!

    • eddie47d

      America was also founded from the principle of Freedom from Religion which means you can be a Christian or not. Thus we don’t have a government controlled by Christians or any other religion. Obama can use Christ’s name like any other Christian if he likes

      • Joe H.

        eddie,
        you need to study a little harder and learn to read a little better. It’s freedom OF religeon, not FROM!!! Get it straight in that wart between your shoulders!!

      • http://naver samurai

        First, Obama bin Laden openly admitted to being a muslim. Second, we were founded on Christian principles and founded a Christian nation. No secularism here. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

        • NC

          Samurai, you are exactly right…..except for the first amendment and 230 years of Supreme Court decisions!We are a nation that makes no laws realative to any religion!

          BTW, contrary to your false assumtion I have proudly served in the military of this country. I’m sure not as bravely as Rambo Samurai and Commando TOM!!! Cover me bro, I’M going IN!!! ROTHFLMAO!!!!!

          • http://naver samurai

            If you served, thank you. Second, all of our rights, the Bill of Rights, are rights given to us by God and not the Constitution. To say the Constitution gives us our rights is to say that government does and not God. Go to Washington and see how many times the name of God is written or etched into our monuments and buildings. Go to the SCOTUS and you’ll see a bust of Moses holding the 10 Commandments. Look at the Liberty Bell and you’ll see Leviticus 25:10 inscribed on it. Even the SCOTUS said “This nation is a Christian nation” in the 1892 case of Church of the Holy Trinity vs. U.S. I guess you have just walked into an ambush and have suffered 100% casualty rate. If you were in the military, you’ll understand what I’m saying. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

  • Ulana Zinych

    Democrats’ War on Women is one the most stupid videos that I have “partially” watched.Could not waste time to watch it in its entirety

    • Tom W.

      Then why don’t you take your a$$ back to whatever Eastern Bloc satellite you originated from fraulein?!

  • nana

    Plainly, there is still a LOT of prejudism in this country. One reason a black man ( Pres. Obama ) got elected is because Bush had done such a terrible job. It was after he gave enormous tax breaks to the ultra rich that the stock market crashed, interest rates on savings became almost non-existant and unemployment leaped. I wish Obama could fix things faster, but perhaps a slower recovery will mean a more lasting recovery. Don’t forget who bravely ordered the assasination of Saddam Hussein and Ossama bin Laden. Also, who ordered the brave Navy Seals to rescue, successfully) the hostages, twice? The Republicans are for “STANDING ROOM ONLY”. Eventually, and in the not too far off future, there will be not enough breathing room for everyone! Or clean drinking water, jobs, etc… God may have told Adam & Eve, when there was just the 2 of them, “Go forth & multiply!”, but eons later God said, ” A man who giveth (children) in marraige doth good, but a man who giveth not, doth better!”

    • Marty S.

      Oh look a representative of the New World Order has given us the privilege to hear their Agenda 21 speech. Thanks for the info Ill pass on this sort of drivel.

      • Tom W.

        Besides the fact that she’s got her facts all screwed up, Barack ordered the assassination of Saddam?!! Saddam’s EXECUTION was ordered by a judge after his trial by a court of his own countrymen! And unless I’m mistaken didn’t that happen before Barack Hussein Obama was elected?! Obama also gets too much credit for taking down Osama!!! Intelligence found him after many years of searching, and it was the SEALs who got him! And to be quite honest, There’s still something about that operation that doesn’t pass the smell test for me. But I’m one of those conspiracy theory nuts, So I’m probably the one who’s way off base here!
        When the market in Europe comes crashing down, we’ll see how well the recovery is going! Anybody been grocery shopping here lately?!

        • smilee

          Panetta got the intelligence 8 months before they took Osama out before that they had no idea were he was and it was then that they started making plans to how they could take him out. Panetta told the whole story on 60 minutes a couple of weeks ago. FOR ALL THAT TIME BEFORE EIGHT MONTHS AGO they knew nothing or had any plans.

          • http://naver samurai

            Wrong answer smilee. We knew he was going back and forth between Pakistan and Afghanistan, due to he needing a kidney dialysis (sp) machine in order to survive. They had none in Afghanistan. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

    • Mac Roman

      No Nana, the reason Obama got elected is because someone put L.S.D. into the drinking water supply.

      • NC

        Mac, I just saw the latest Obama vs. Romney polls! No need to re-order on the LSD! Seems that Americans still have a memory of the last Republican administration and it’s trickle down fiasco!!! We may get another 4 years of the Muslim Kenyan black dude!!! He has done much better than the daddy’s boy from Texas!!See approval polls!!

        • http://naver samurai

          Still on kool aid and believing the easily manipulated polls? When will they ever learn? I’ll bet that Bush had better poll numbers at the end of his first term then Obama bin Laden has now. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

          P.S. Haven’t made that popping sound yet?

          • smilee

            Sammie

            Why do you suppose only the losers are trying to run against him, all the good republicans want to wait until 2016 so they will have a chance they see this year as to risky to take that chance as they fear Obama gets that second term

          • http://naver samurai

            I’ll bet you he loses and so will you on this subject. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

    • Michael

      Nana, I am a union employee, since Obama has been in office, my taxes has gone up. Secondly, until between 2001-2007, we were under the best economic boom in years. Unemployment under 5%, the stock market above 14k. This was even after 9-11. Tax cuts to the rich work along with anon intrusive Government allows businesses to grow. Since 2007, under Democrat majority, we have crumbled as a nation to keep jobs, and lost several billion in retirement pensions. When you raise the tax rate on Americans, you cripple growth, you may not want to believe it, but its true. I make an average salery, pay child support and pay 21% income tax instead of 19% under Bush. So the big Obama lie of raising the tax rates to people making over 200K, it a huge lie. Check yours out, it might suprise you.

    • Nadzieja Batki

      Taking the Bible out of context tells everyone that you do not spend time reading or studying the Book. If the Bible is too hard for you to comprehend there is a simple Thru the Bible study with J Vernon McGee.

      • Vigilant

        Nadzieja, nana not only took it out of context, she misrepresented it. Her propagandized version of 1 Corinthians 7:38 does not say what she indicated. The New American Standard Bible translates it as follows:

        “So then both he who gives his own virgin daughter in marriage does well, and he who does not give her in marriage will do better.”

        • Nadzieja Batki

          Thanks Vigilant.

    • Joe H.

      Gee nana, I must have missed that verse in my Bible. Could you cite which book and verse that was??? Jesus DID say at the feast on the Mount ” Suffer not the children for they are as pure as the driven snow”. he did not say AFTER they leave the woumb!!!

    • http://naver samurai

      Since hen did Obama bin Laden order Saddam Hussein to be assassinated? He was captured, imprisoned, tried, found guilty by a jury, sentenced by a judge, and then executed. What did Obama bin Laden have to do with this? But he may be guilty of killing people in Kenya.

      http://www.impeachobamacampaign.com/video-is-obama-responsible-for-1000-kenyan-deaths/

      FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

  • bp

    @Ted: God is not mocked. Obummer will be held accountable. BTW: all his ‘female’ appointments have been unwomenly & Hill is a one, too.

  • Redog

    I have followed Ben for a long time. It is sad when a comedian is painfully unfunny. I have flopsweat for him. And the laugh track?

  • Marine Dad

    Since when aren’t we a christian nation? The reason the word abortion is used is because people who have them and perform them don’t like the real words,killing the unborn.This is murder and then one would be held accountable for thier actions.Thereis an alternitive it’s called adoption.

    • Tom W.

      I salute you Marine Dad! OOOH RAHHHH!!!

    • Vigilant

      MD, they take the subterfuge even further when they call it “pro choice.” They’ve yet to learn that you can’t polish a turd.

    • http://naver samurai

      HHHHHooooorrrrraaaaahhhhh! Well said, devil dog! FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

  • Dan McGrew

    Ben,
    Your dedication to distortion and deliberate lying is total.
    A super rich republican who gives more of his income is hardly comparable to a recently prosperous couple who have just finished paying off their student loans, while acquiring and furnishing a home, engaged in active public careers at considerable early sacrifice.
    Mitt could donate 80% of his income and not impact his living style.
    ———————————
    YOUR GREATEST LIE — The Democrats war on women.
    In your next life — I implore all Gods to have you return as a remote village woman, married to a super-macho traditional man.
    When you get to the 11th child, let there be a birth control clinic set up in your village for a year.
    And then let us see you defy your lord and master and seek birth control advice, so you can live long enough to care for the eleven children, instead of dying in childbirth with the 12th to 16th child.
    During your next life, let it be as a teen-age girl, kidnapped and sold as a sex slave.
    After you have three STDs, HIV and TB and are pregnant by one of your last 200 customers — be sure and don’t be hypocritical about abortion.

    • Holly

      Dan, It must be easy to sit on the other side of a computer, on this great Saturday morning, an implore ‘the great Gods’ to do horrendous things to a man that simply believes abortion kills innocent children. The paragraph you typed up is truly evil. The insanity of it is that you think you are just and kind, when in fact you are the opposite.

      I hope you reconsider your both your debate tactics of cursing other people to be reincarnated in a life of hell. I doubt you did the same on truly evil people.

      • Nadzieja Batki

        Considering that there is no such thing as reincarnation or past lives syndrome, all the nonsense that was spouted by Dan McGrew is just that nonsense.

        • Karolyn

          And how do you know there’s no such thing, all-knowing Nazieja? I’m sure you have answers for the people who talk of past lives that have been proven to exist? And, as in the following case, are children who could not possibly know what he knows. This is one of my favorite stories of reincarnation. I’m sure you will say this little boy was possessed by the devil.
          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-OApQ_iXvw

      • Vigilant

        Holly, you’re right. Dangerous Dan tips his hand when he shows just how much respect he really has for human life.

    • Michael

      Dan, how come its always rich republicans? Do you know that most of the richest Americans are Democrats? Do you think George Soros gives as much to charity as Mitt Romney, dont think so. I will give you Warren Buffett, who does donate a lot of money, but for every Warren Buffett, there are 10 wealthy republicans donations millions of dollars. The liberal mindset does not allow that. Their philosophy is to use other peoples money, not theirs. John Kerry, always votes for higher taxes, went to Rhode Island to buy a yacht. Why RI? Because of the lower tax rate. But good old John will get into your pocket every chance he gets. Bush gave tax breaks to all Americans and the economy grew. 2001-2007, the economy grew to record levels and unemployment was under 5%. Put Dems in charge since 2007. the bottom fell out. Simple facts. Do the class warfare if it makes you feel better, the the evidence is right here.

    • eddie47d

      Dan made a valid point and I don’t see too many Conservatives wearing halo’s on this site to be validating their opinions.Even some of the women posting here would be perfectly happy living under a Taliban government. They want their men to keep them docile and obedient and with few rights of equality.

    • http://naver samurai

      Sheesh, what a rant! Must be “all libs to this site” day. Many pop up targets in my sights. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

  • Michael

    First off, the only people making the SGK/PP was Planned Parenthood and the media. SGK made a decision and PP did not like it. So instead of taking the high road, which Liberals never take, they went and cried to the media. SGK had every right to do what they did and PP and the media forced them back together. Secondly, Roe V Wade has been unconstitutional since its beginning. If the left would like to read the Constitution it gives things like abortion a place to be decided. By the States. Once Roe V Wade is overturned, the States will have the right to decide if it wants abortions or not. Same thing with Gay Marriage. Its a States right issue and the left hates State rights issues. Since Obama is a Centralized Government believer, States rights does not fall into his beliefs.

    • Michael

      First off, the only people making the SGK/PP political was Planned Parenthood and the media. SGK made a decision and PP did not like it. So instead of taking the high road, which Liberals never take, they went and cried to the media. SGK had every right to do what they did and PP and the media forced them back together. Secondly, Roe V Wade has been unconstitutional since its beginning. If the left would like to read the Constitution it gives things like abortion a place to be decided. By the States. Once Roe V Wade is overturned, the States will have the right to decide if it wants abortions or not. Same thing with Gay Marriage. Its a States right issue and the left hates State rights issues. Since Obama is a Centralized Government believer, States rights does not fall into his beliefs.

    • eddie47d

      Komen and Planned Parenthood were doing just fine in there partnership until Komen appointed a Conservative to it’s leadership who wanted to ban Planned Parenthood. What gave her the right to push her agenda on a perfectly functioning and working friendship.All this came about from a Florida Representative who had a phony lawsuit going on to break up this partnership. Komen in Colorado and elsewhere totally disagreed with her actions and were in favor of these groups staying together.The majority agreed and this partnership was reinstated.

  • Mac Roman

    Obama is way off when he talks about Jesus. He obviously knows nothing about the Holy Bible either. Socialism, which he is desparately pushing on the American people is a sin. YES you read that correctly. A SIN! The Tenth Commandment,”Thall shall not covet”means what it says. You cannot take something or even want something that belongs to anyone else.Socialism is when the government forcefully takes your stuff and gives it to someone else. SO——-Socialism, communism,create a Godless sociaty with the State as being the only Higher Power.Obama says he is a Christian.How absurd!

    • denniso

      If Jesus ever ‘came back’ he would doubtless be an extreme liberal. He would spurn the Repubs like he did the money changers in the Temple.Do you think he would agree w/ your current leader for president, ‘I’m not concerned for the poor’? How on earth can a real Christian support someone who says that? More utter hypocrisy from you rightwing,Christian pretenders!

      • FreedomFighter

        As usual clueless.

        I read the book, it ends badly for ALL Lucys and Tares.

        Laus Deo
        Semper Fi

      • Nadzieja Batki

        So are there left wing christian pretenders?
        You like to take the Bible out of context to justify your own foolish beliefs.

        • FreedomFighter

          It does end badly for Lucys and Tares. Dont understand your context issue, please explain

          Thanks

          Laus Deo
          Semper Fi

          • Nadzieja Batki

            My comment was to Denniso.

      • http://naver samurai

        Neeeeed to read the Bible after making that popping sound. Don’t forget that the money changers then are the libs/progressives of today. If Jesus whipped them then, he’ll do the same now. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

    • Nadzieja Batki

      O knows that the majority that follow him don’t bother to read the Bible and don’t know the Lord. These same people can be easily manipulated for political gain as long as things can be made to sound “Christian” or “Jesusy”.

      • Vigilant

        Nadzieja, you are 100% right, as always. Obama is a charlatan who uses religion to achieve his political ends. I read recently that since he “officially” announced his candidacy, he has gone to church much more often than he did previously.

        Additionally, on his Hawaiian vacation it was noted that cameras were not allowed to be around when he played golf, but that his handlers made sure there was blanket media coverage when he went to church.

        Snake oil salesman and hypocrite, he uses his church attendance as a means to an end, much like the Rev. Wright.

        • Karolyn

          Much like most politicians.

          • Vigilant

            And we all expect the President of the United States to act more as a leader of ALL the people instead of acting as a partisan hack.

          • http://naver samurai

            Or like some incessant fool. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

            P.S. Obama bin Laden’s title is no longer POTUS, but COOTUS (Community Organizer of the United States).

          • Vigilant

            “COOTUS?” That’s GREAT, samurai!

            Is that an original?

          • http://naver samurai

            Yes I just thought it up off of the top of my head. Sook Young thought it was funny. So did my kids. Keep up the good fight, fellow patriot. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

  • FreedomFighter

    The Inner Workings of Secret Societies with Fritz Springmeier 2/3

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_JAmJI7xn2s&feature=uploademail

    Laus Deo
    Semper Fi

  • http://liberyalearts john p.

    Obama is playing the christian Muslim game.this man is
    such a idiot he is scary .just more lies .

  • Donna Hammond

    i am glad we dont have to worry about someone to emplore all gods to have a person come back in an after life as another being, because there is only one GOD, and there is only Hrsvrn ot hell. He is a mercyful GOD and wants to save you from any sin you commit. All you have to do is ask him to come into your heart and repent of your sins. He will forgive you. Make no mistake, abortion is murder, but you can be forgiven of that also. He is a good GOD ready to help his people, that is why he sent his SON, JESUS. The choice is yours to believe or not to believe. It is not forced on you, but I choose GOD and life, life eternal.

  • Donna Hammond

    somehow when I typed in Heaven or Hell, I must have mistyped Heaven because it cane out HISVN. I am sorry for that bad mistake in typing, I should have proop read it before I sent it.

  • Bob Wilson

    When you think about the following. People must have had their head in the sand for Obama to get elected.
    Let’s review a little:
    There is an obvious agenda and we are living through the fundamental transformation of our country. Undeniably, there is no accident or coincidence. These are verifiable facts and incidents. Do you think it matters now?
    WHEN Obama wrote a book and said he was mentored as a youth by Frank (Frank Marshall Davis) an avowed Communist, people said it didn’t matter.
    WHEN it was discovered that his grandparents were strong socialists who sent Obama’s mother to a socialist school where she was introduced to Frank Marshall Davis. He was later introduced to young Barrack Hussein Obama. People said it didn’t matter.
    WHEN people found out that Barrack Hussein Obama was enrolled as a Muslim child in school and his father and stepfather were both Muslims, people said it didn’t matter.
    WHEN he wrote in another book he authored “I will stand with them (Muslims) should the political winds shift in an ugly direction” people said it didn’t matter.
    WHEN he admittedly, in his book, said he chose Marxist friends and professors in college– people said it didn’t matter.
    WHEN he traveled to Pakistan after college on an unknown national passport, people said it didn’t matter.
    WHEN he sought the endorsement of the Marxist Party in 1996 as he ran for the Illinois Senate, people said it didn’t matter.
    WHEN he sat in a Chicago Church for twenty years and listened to a preacher spew hatred for America and preach black liberation theology, people said it didn’t matter.
    WHEN an independent Washington organization, that tracks Senate voting records, gave him the distinctive title as the “most liberal senator,” people said it didn’t matter.
    WHEN the Palestinians in Gaza set up a fund raising telethon to raise money for his election campaign, people said it didn’t matter.
    WHEN his voting record supported gun control, people said it didn’t matter.
    WHEN he refused to disclose who donated money to his election campaign, as other candidates had done, people said it didn’t matter.
    WHEN he received endorsements from people like Louis Farrakhan and Mum-mar Kadaffi and Hugo Chavez, people said it didn’t matter.
    WHEN it was pointed out that he was a total newcomer and had absolutely no experience at anything except community organizing, people said it didn’t matter.
    WHEN he chose friends and acquaintances such as Bill Ayers and Bernadine Dohrn who were revolutionary radicals, people said it didn’t matter.
    WHEN his voting record in the Illinois senate and in the U.S. Senate came into question, people said it didn’t matter.
    WHEN he refused to wear a flag lapel pin, and did so only after a public outcry, people said it didn’t matter.
    WHEN people started treating him as a Messiah and children in schools were taught to sing his praises, people said it didn’t matter.
    WHEN he stood with his hands over his groin area for the playing of the National Anthem and Pledge of Allegiance, people said it didn’t matter.
    WHEN he surrounded himself in the White House with advisors who were pro-gun control, pro- abortion, pro-homosexual marriage and wanting to curtail freedom of speech to silence the opposition people said it didn’t matter..
    WHEN he aired his views on abortion, homosexuality and a host of other issues, people said it didn’t matter.
    WHEN he said he favors sex education in kindergarten, including homosexual indoctrination, people said it didn’t matter.
    WHEN his personal background was either scrubbed or hidden and nothing could be found about him, people said it didn’t matter.
    WHEN the place of his birth was called into question, and he refused to produce a birth certificate, people said it didn’t matter.
    WHEN he had an association in Chicago with Tony Rezco. . . a man of questionable character and who is now in prison and had helped Obama to a sweet deal on the purchase of his home– people said it didn’t matter.
    WHEN it became known that George Soros, a multi-billionaire Marxist, spent a ton of money to get him elected, people said it didn’t matter.
    WHEN he started appointing White House Czars that were radicals, revolutionaries, and even avowed Marxist/Communist, people said it didn’t matter.
    WHEN he stood before the Nation and told us that his intentions were to “fundamentally transform this Nation” into something else, people said it didn’t matter.
    WHEN it became known that he had trained ACORN workers in Chicago and served as an attorney for ACORN, people said it didn’t matter.
    WHEN he appointed cabinet members and several advisors who were tax cheats and socialists, people said it didn’t matter.
    WHEN he appointed a Science Czar, John Holdren, who believes in forced abortions, mass sterilization and seizing babies from teen mothers, people said it didn’t matter.
    WHEN he appointed Cass Sunstein as Regulatory Czar who believes in “Explicit Consent,” harvesting human organs without family consent, and allowing animals to be represented in court, while banning all hunting, people said it didn’t matter.
    WHEN he appointed Kevin Jennings, a homosexual, and organizer of a group called gay, lesbian, straight, education network as Safe School Czar and it became known that he had a history of bad advice to teenagers, people said it didn’t matter.
    WHEN he appointed Mark Lloyd, as Diversity Czar, who believes in curtailing free speech; taking from one and giving to another to spread the wealth; who supports Hugo Chavez, people said it didn’t matter.
    WHEN Valerie Jarrett was selected as Obama’s Senior White House Advisor and she is an avowed Socialist, people said it didn’t matter.
    WHEN Anita Dunn, White House Communications Director said Mao Tse Tung was her favorite philosopher– and the person she turned to most for inspiration, people said it didn’t matter.
    WHEN he appointed Carol Browner as Global Warming Czar, and her being a well-known socialist working on Cap and Trade as the nation’s largest tax, people said it didn’t matter.
    WHEN he appointed Van Jones, an ex-con and avowed Communist as Green Energy Czar, who since had to resign when this was made known, people said it didn’t matter.
    WHEN Tom Daschle, Obama’s pick for health and human services secretary could not be confirmed, because he was a tax cheat, people said it didn’t matter.
    WHEN as President of the United States , he bowed to the King of Saudi Arabia , people said it didn’t matter.
    WHEN he traveled around the world criticizing America and never once talking of her greatness, people said it didn’t matter.
    WHEN his actions concerning the Middle-East seemed to support the Palestinians over Israel , our longtime ally, people said it didn’t matter.
    WHEN he took American tax dollars to resettle thousands of Palestinians from Gaza to the United States , people said it didn’t matter.
    WHEN he upset the Europeans by removing plans for a missile defense system against the Russians, people said it didn’t matter.
    WHEN he played politics in Afghanistan by not sending troops early-on when the Field Commanders said they were necessary to win, people said it didn’t matter.
    WHEN he started spending us into a debt that was so big we could not pay it off, people said it didn’t matter.
    WHEN he took a huge spending bill under the guise of stimulus and used it to pay off organizations, unions, and individuals that got him elected, people said it didn’t matter.
    WHEN he took over insurance companies, car companies, banks, etc., people said it didn’t matter.
    WHEN he took away student loans from the banks and put it through the government, people said it didn’t matter.
    WHEN he designed plans to take over the health care system and put it under government control, people said it didn’t matter.
    WHEN he claimed he was a Christian during the election and tapes were later made public that showed Obama speaking to a Muslim group and ‘stating’ that he was raised a Muslim; was educated as a Muslim; and that he is still a Muslim. . . people said it didn’t matter.
    WHEN he set into motion a plan to take over the control of all energy in the United States through Cap and Trade, people said it didn’t matter.
    WHEN he finally completes his transformation of America into a Socialist State , people will finally wake up. . . but it will be too late.
    Add these up one by one and you get a phenomenal score that points to the fact that Barrack Hussein Obama is determined to turn America into a Marxist-Socialist society.

    Two Things to Think About!
    “The penalty that good men pay for not being interested In politics is to be governed by men worse than themselves.”-PLATO.
    “A Constitution Of Government Once Changed From Freedom, Can Never Be Restored. Liberty, Once Lost, Is Lost Forever.” ~JOHN ADAMS
    NEXT TIME DO YOUR HOMEWORK!

    • Redog

      I can recommend a good exorcist for you. What blather.

      • FreedomFighter

        Foolish men say foolish things that are quickly put aside, the word of God endures because it is the word of God.

        Back under your rock tare. Prove the mans words false, you cant.

        Laus Deo
        Semper Fi

        • denniso

          Blather is the correct word for that too long rant. And, there is no ‘word of god’, only words from men pretending to have a connection to various mythical figures,all for the purpose of controlling you and enriching themselves. Read,think,examine,reason.

          • Joe H.

            denniso,
            as the fisherman said, Kiss my bass!! The Bible is written by man under devine guidance of GOD!!! Perhaps you should aquire a little faith, it has served me well through out my life. I trust my life to God, never to man!

          • http://naver samurai

            Sheesh duhnisso, when are you ever going to stop lying and post some sources? FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

            P.S. You say God doesn’t exist, then prove it!

          • denniso

            Joe H,that’s where you’ve gone wrong. To put your trust in a myth that is totally fabricated by MAN,and then say you put no trust in MAN! We humans are actually in control,of everything…war,peace,environmental destruction,control of disease,issues like hate,bigotry,racism. There is no god,higher power,that has any control over anything,except in your mind. That is the danger of your myth,that billions of humans hand over control of their lives and the world to the myth rather than use their own power and that of the people in mass to fix things.
            Imagine if all the energy and money that goes into religions and their hocus pocus went instead to really fixing all the mess we see around us and the world. We could actually have a much better world than we do now.

          • http://naver samurai

            Don’t you remember being told, “I can do all things through Christ who strengtheneth me?” All things are possible through God, but we are very limited. Tell you what, get rid of abortions, welfare, and many other things in this country and you’ll begin to see a great good turn around for this country. Be careful as your ignorance and atheism are showing. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

          • denniso

            Samurai…atheism? What exactly is that? Is it a religion,philosophy? Just so you know,it is not a thing,like a religion. All it means is that a person doesn’t believe any god exists. Nothing more.Simple.

            Let’s assume you read books. Let’s assume you read a book that tells you to jump off a roof. Because it’s written in a book do you jump? Because some primitive men 2000 yrs ago wrote about a man named Jesus,does that make everything theu say true? What about the many books of the old testament written even further back by various men? Who says they are the truth? They themselves? You people are so gullible to believe that one book written by mostly ignorant men in a primitive time is all the truth…come on now!!

          • http://naver samurai

            Just because you have the belief of “do it if it feels good”, but nothing in the Bibles or our founding documents supports this belief, does it make it so? Since you can never prove the Bible wrong, though I’m sure you’ll try, your arguement falls in defeat. Another pop-up target knocked down. When are you and your ilk going to post facts and sources? If you post a source that proves me wrong, I’ll concede defeat. Wouldn’t it be worth it to possibly see the samurai swallow his pride and admit defeat? FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

          • Joe H.

            denniso,
            It would do you good to find some faith. I have faith in God, in Jesus as my savior, and am filled with the holy spirit. Yes, I back slide from time to time as man is fallible, god isn’t. God is yesterday, today and tomorrow, he is always and everywhere. He is your creator, denniso, and it would do you good to get to know him personally. I have had a good life, yes I have had a few trials, God never promised me an easy road to walk, just that he would walk with me if I asked. I did and he has walked by my side ever since.

          • denniso

            You guys can believe in fairy tales if you want,it’s almost a free country,but don’t push your god into other people’s faces and our public policy,especially when you have no leg to stand on as to the existence of your gods. You should be able to understand that when someone states the existence of something,it is their responsibility to show proof of it’s existence. That is simple logic. It is not sufficient to point to some random book and say that it is proof because it says so. What is so difficult about that? There are thousands of books that proclaim one ‘truth’ or another w/ no credibility or corroboration…do you believe everything you read as gospel truth?

            Like I said,believe what you want…easter bunny,santa claus,space aliens,but don’t claim that they are ‘real’ just because you believe in them.

            I still stand by what I said earlier…fine and dandy if people want to believe in fantasies,especially if it makes them better people,but keep them out of our country’s business and respect other’s lack of believe in them.

          • http://naver samurai

            Read the blistering posts I gave you farther down this thread. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

      • Vigilant

        How wearisome. As expected, Reddog and denniso are confused by facts, so they retreat into the typical liberal stance: one answers with no answer, i.e., no refutation of the facts, just the one-line zinger that says nothing and fails to address specific points. The other launches into unproven atheist platitudes.

        It would indeed be a modern day miracle if these communists could just once meet the arguments head on instead of playing the Alinsky game of diverting the subject.

        • http://naver samurai

          True that! True that! FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

          • denniso

            Vigilant says nothing and Sam wants to live in fairytale land. Sam,can I prove to you that you can’t fly? Yes. I’ll prove it by showing a total lack of evidence that you can. That’s a proof. I don’t even have to drop you from a plane to prove it,all I have to show is there is absolutely no evidence that you can do it. It is encumbent upon you to show the evidence that you can fly and if you can’t do that then we can say adamently that you can’t. Can you understand that?
            The exact same reasoning holds w/ your make believe god,heaven,hell,angels,devil,saints,speaking in tongues,floating up into the sky….NO evidence,NO proof. You have a book written by ignorant men 2000 yrs ago putting forth myths and supposed miracles. Sorry,but just because a man writes a book that doesn’t count as proof of anything. You need corroberation and repeatability.
            Stay in la la land and don’t look for any real truth,in politics or religion.

          • Vigilant

            denniso, my reply to NC below covers your ignorance and lack of depth as a human being. Cynical, accusing, deriding people like yourself and other such atheists have neither substance nor comprehension of a universe that entails more than meets the eye.

            As I said below, I have no problem with Atheists who have investigated, researched and come to their particular conclusions about reality and leave it at that. My beef is with those atheists (small “a”) who can’t resist insulting persons of faith at every opportunity, and to what end?

            In a 20th century world history that repeatedly shows the partnership between atheism and tyranny, your motives are suspect. Moreover, your incessant lambasting of people who have faith in an Ultimate Reality belies the great liberal claims to “sensitivity.” Perhaps you don’t see this innate conflict in your mind, but it’s seen by others.

          • denniso

            You and most other so called ‘people of faith’ miss the point entirely. You also have no problem calling Democrats/liberals names,like Communist,Marxist though you know that’s essentially like calling someone a devil,or evil in this country.

            I have no problem w/ anyone who believes in anything,absurd or not,if they don’t use it to beat others over the head with,as most Christians do,and hypocritically use it to justify political positions that are harmful to others. There are few Christians/believers who quietly adhere to their religion but don’t try to inject it into our gov’t and public schools,or accept hate directed at our president because he’s supposedly a Muslim,or deny gays the same rights as the rest of us. There are likewise few Christians who actually follow Jesus while they spew hate and encourage war at the drop of a hat. It’s the hypocrisy of most Christians,Muslims,Mormons…who fake a love for their god/prophet while they push policies that promote greed, selfishness,war,devisiveness,and hurt the less fortunate, that is so obvious and absurd.

            If our Christians,who just happen to be the dominant majority in the country,would keep their believes and superstition in church and home where it belongs,most of us in the tiny minority would accept and even welcome them…but no,they can’t do that,because their god/Jesus/Mohamed doesn’t allow that. They are commanded to try to drag their countries into their magical land of make believe and attempt to shackle,enslave or even kill the non believers. The only difference between the extreme Muslims and our Christians is that most of our Christians aren’t quite as extreme…but they want the same outcome,a country run on Christian law that mostly comes out of the old,punitive,authoritative and violent old testament…not the words of their supposed prophet,Jesus. The ridiculous old testament w/ it’s anti gay,anti woman,pro killing,adultery,pro child abuse,pro capital punishment and more absurdity.

            Where are the words of Jesus when most of the Christians on this site or at tea party rallies,spout off w/ their hate and venom? I’m accountable to myself,but Christians are supposed to be accountable to Jesus.

          • http://naver samurai

            Wrong duhnisso! We are held accountable for all our actions under God. 100% accountability, no exceptions! We are also subject to the repercussions, from Him, no matter what. So if he decides to punish you for something, then you have earned that punishment for you wacko and sinful ways. If he rewards you for something, then you have earned that reward. Its that simple. Neeeeed to take you vile hate, wackiness, and obvious mental disorders and take a hike. It is people, like you and your ilk, that keep this nation devided. You and your ilk are like a fifth column inside this country that needs to be expelled. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

          • denniso

            No, it’s religious extremist gun nuts like you who have actively divided the country for the past 30 yrs…pushing your fictitious gods into gov’t and public life and supporting unsustainable military spending and being willing sheep lead to support any war at any time. You people need to keep yopur make believe gods in church and leave the public sphere to smarter and unbrainwashed people.

            You religious nuts continue to spout the myth that we are accountable to god/jesus/mohammed…where is the accountability for the tens of thousands of maimed,burned,dead children and women from the totally disgusting Iraq war? Are you calling for Bush,Cheny and the other mass murderers to be tried for war crimes and treason? Or are you telling me and others that they will be sent to Hell by your great lord and savior? I don’t seem to recall you ever mentioning that. Or, maybe it’s just fine that tens of thousands of babies,children,women,pregnant women,old men,young boys were slaughtered by people and policies that you supported because,afterall,we have legal choice for women in this country,unlike other more backward countries like Iran,Saudi Arabia,North Korea…countries that are much closer to the kind of country you and your fellow extremists seem intent on creating here.

          • http://naver samurai

            Well, well, well, duhnisso is on another kool aid induced trip. But never fear, the samurai has arrived to set him/her straight. First, you talk religious nuts. Nothing is more nuts than not knowing God and Jesus. You also state you, and your ilk, are smarter and not brainwashed? Ha, ha, ha, ha! You make me laugh with that comment. I was having a bad day till I read that. Thanks for the laugh. Don’t you know they have performed studies which show that people that have religious beliefs, like those that attend worship services, tend to be smarter and have higher IQ’s? There was even a thread on this site dealing with this same said subject. Look it up and have your lib mind awakened to broader possibilities. Second, you say we are keeping this country divided? How is that? Care to cite some sources on this matter? We patriots believe in having this country go by the Constitution, lowering taxes, cutting spending, going by our founding principles and Christian founding, so what is so divisive about that? Just because there may not be any room for you, along with your ilk, in this equation? If you do fit the mold, then change your ways, voluntarily. No ordering or edicts of course. Military spending is high? Military spending is around 20% of our budget. It is a good slice of the pie, but what about the current welfare state? Welfare and entitlement programs are 50% of our budget, so now we have to ask ourselves what is really to blame for our government being broke? Need to evaluate your situation and your surroundings before you post. A good leader does these things. Is it fair for the average American to work for the first 6 months of the year, just to pay for welfare programs and handouts to foreign nationals, never authorized by our Constitution? No, it is not. Guns, I say weapons, are a God given right. Why do you have such mental issues about our Constitution and how we were founded? Remember this duhnisso, The Declaration of Independence, which provides the philosophical base of our nation, states very clearly that our rights are granted to us by our Creator (GOD). The various rights noted in the Bill of Rights were not granted by government. The purpose of the Bill of Rights is to prevent the Federal government from suspending any of those God given rights, including the right to possess a weapon.

            http://www.personalliberty.com/conservative-politics/liberty/do-you-really-know-the-constitution

            FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

            P.S. I have more for you.

          • http://naver samurai

            Sorry, had to talk to Sook Young for a moment, but I’m back now to continue sweeping the field with you. You talk about certain countries and women’s rights, but isn’t it strange that you never mentioned China? Also, women sometimes have abortions if their child is a girl and not a boy. This is even done by some people in America also. No, I didn’t say unplanned parenthood, I meant the woman involved. Many cultures, not us of course, girls are not as valued as boys. Ergo, this happens in our country also, don’t fool yourself. South Korea, whose beliefs are founded on the teachings of Confucius and Bhudda, only perform abortions to save the mother’s life. Like tubal pregnancies and things. If the child would be born retarded, deformed, etc., they still must have the child and raise it. If they can’t, then they have a relative or someone else adopt the child. I guess you have a problem with that, though they are not using Christianity or religion to make their decisions? SSDD, eh duhnisso? Buhs, baaaaa! Cheney, baaaaa! Iraq, baaaaa! Thousands dead, baaaaa! I hate bleeding hearts. You sound as much the traitor as Jane Fonda. Many people who died in Iraq were trying to kill us or were blown up by terrorist bombings. Neeeeed to be making that popping sound. Third, how about a war that has cost more lives? How about the war on women and the unborn here, since this is the topic of this thread? How about the 50 million murdered children, dead women (Sometimes women die from complications during an abortion), women with physical and emotional problems? So, I guess that this is OK for this to happen in America, but it is a travesty for people to be killed by our soldiers abroad? From March 2003-April 2004 and Feb 2005-May 2005, neither I, nor the platoons I lead into battle, had any, zero, zilch, nada, no collateral damage. No innocent civilians, just ones that were trying to kill us first. Ergo, these points in you agruement have fallen flat. It is “nut jobs”, as you say, like you that is keeping this nation divided and polarized. There are many sources and some well posted facts from Rebecca on this thread, I suggest you read them. You may actually find out that you are wrong in your analysis, but we already know that. We are held 100% accountable for everything we do in God’s eyes. 100% responsible and must take the repercussions from all of your decisions. No exceptios! No excuses! As far as being a Christian nation, we are, so get over it.

            FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

            P.S. The next post are examples of this.

          • http://naver samurai

            Here are some factual examples of this:

            “The United States in Congress assembled, recoomed this edition of the Bible to the inhabitants of the United States. A neat edition of the Holy Scriptures for the use of schools.”

            United States Congress 1782

            “By Law the United States Congress adds to U.S. coinage: ‘In God We Trust.’”

            United States Congress 1864

            “God who gave us life gave us liberty. Can the liberties of a nation be secure when we have removed a conviction that these liberties are the gift of God? That they be taken away but by His wrath? Indeed I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just, that His justice cannot sleep forever.”

            Thomas Jefferson, Jefferson Memorial

            “The Christian religion is the best religion that has ever been given to man.”

            Thomas Jefferson, Jefferson Memorial

            “In my view, the Christian religion is the most important and one of the first things in which all children, under a free government ought to be instructed. No truth is more evident to my mind then that the Christian religion must be the basis of any government intended to secure the rights and privileges of a free people.”

            Noah Webster, Preface Noah Webster Dictionary, 1828

            “Oh thus be it ever, we free men shall stand
            between their loved homes and the war desolation,
            blessed with victory and peace, may the heaven rescued land
            praise the Power that hath made and perserved us a nation.
            Then conquer we must, if our cause it is just.
            And this be out motto: “In God is our turst.”
            Then the Star Spangled Banner in triumph shall wave,
            o’er the land of the free and the home of the brave.”

            Francis Scott Key, U.S. National Anthem

            “This nation under God”

            Abraham Lincoln, Gettysberg Address and inscribed on the Lincoln Memorial

            “We the people are the rightful masters of Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution.”

            Abraham Lincoln, Lincoln Memorial

            “Our laws and our institutions must necessarily be based upon and embody the teachings of The Redeemer of mankind (GOD). It is impossible that it should be otherwise; and in this sense and to this extent our civilization and our institutions are emphatically Christian. This is a Christian nation.”

            SCOTUS, Church of the Holy Trinity vs. U.S. 1892

            “Holiness to the Lord”
            “Search the Scriptures”
            “The memory of the just is blessed”
            “May heaven to this Union continue its beneficence”
            “In God We Trust”
            “Praise be to God” (Laus Deo)

            Washington Monument

            Leviticus 25:10 inscribed on the Liberty Bell.

            “Endowed by their Creator (GOD)”

            Declaration of Independence

            “Secure the blessings of liberty”

            Preamble to the U.S. Constitution

            “In the year of our Lord”

            U.S. Constitution

            Sheesh! These are just some of the examples I can give you about this. Here is another source:

            http://www.usconstitution.net/states_god.html

            Neeeeed to go back to school and study more, if you want to beat this patriot, historian, and Christian. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

          • http://naver samurai

            Oh duhnisso, Duhnisso? Hey duhnisso, when are you going to respond to my postings? Crickets, just crickets. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

          • denniso

            Like I said before,if you want to continue to believe in fairy tales be my guest. Your ranting seldom makes any logical sense,and this time it’s no different. You want to remain willfully ignorant about the unnecessary death and destruction that the idiots you supported in invading Iraq brought about,because you don’t want to be bothered by it emotionally,or feel any responsibility for it yourself…because it is people like you who supported Bush/Cheny in that disgusting and manipulative venture. Can you possibly not know that all of the ‘shock and awe’ w/ missiles and bombs from our planes and ships would kill and maim innocent children and women? You really can’t be that dumb.

            I’ve said this before,I’m done with you. So don’t bother responding because I’ll just ignore you as everyone should. You’re all hot air and bombast and no substance,and pointless to engage.

          • http://naver samurai

            What I’ve posted are all facts and you are just unwilling to see the truth. You and your ilk are a dying breed, thank God. Everything I have posted, sources, and quotes are facts and cannot be proven false. Since I went to Iraq, you having no guts didn’t even sign up, I know why we went, so knock off the spin machine of yours. You say you are done with me and I make no sense? Who is it that has posted facts and sources and who hasn’t? Neeeeed to be making that popping sound. Don’t respond unless you have facts and sources. Enough said. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

  • Tom W.

    Well I’m gonna take my dog to the park and let him stretch his legs! Keep up the good fight PATRIOTS!!! I’ll check in on y’all latta, take no prisoners!!! Where’s Joe McCarthy and Cotton Mathers when ya need ‘em?!!
    Keep your eyes on the skies, JESUS IS COMIN’! He loves y’all and so do I!!!

  • Cowboyup

    For you are the children of your father the devil, and you love to do the evil things he does. He was a murderer from the beginning. He has always hated the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he lies, it is consistent with his character, for he is a liar and the father of lies. John 8:44. When I think about PP I think of this verse. Only those whose father is the devil could celebrate the genocide that has occurred in this country since Roe vs Wade. 54 million and counting.

    • NC

      Cowboyup, WHILE YOU COUNTING THE NUMBER OF INNOCENT CHIDREN WHO HAVE BEEN “KILLED” WHERE ARE YOU GOING TO PUT THOSE INNOCENT CHILDREN THAT GOD “SLEW” IN EXODUS BECAUSE HE WAS PI$$ED AT THE PHARAOH?? IS THERE A “SPECIAL” COLUMN FOR THOSE INNOCENT CHILDREN KILLED BY A BENEVOLENT GOD?

      • s c

        n, remember your words, comrade. You’ll get a chance to ‘chat’ with God one of these days. Don’t be surprised to learn that NO mortal can argue with God. Your ‘teachers’ are false. Your views smack of Obummerish arrogance. You have much to learn and unlearn. What’s the ‘name’ of your false god? You surely know THAT much.

        • NC

          sc YOU STILL HAVEN’T ANSWERED THE QUESTION OF WHY A GOD WITH ALL THE POWERS TO PART WATERS, RAISE THE DEAD AND DO ALL THINGS HAD TO KILL CHILDREN TO SETTLE A DEBT WITH A MORTAL MAN.

        • NC

          SC,has you “real God” spoken to you? Really?? You have heard a voice from another realm? Then why can’t you fix all the problems of the country you claim to love? or tell us exactly where Obama was born?

          How often do you talk??

          • Joe H.

            That last part is easy! In a village in AFRICA!!! Now PROVE ME WRONG!!
            But do it with proper papers and not forgeries!!

          • http://naver samurai

            “D’oh!” :-) Well said Joe H, fellow patriot! If he doesn’t believe in God, then he’ll feel some extreme heat in the end, literally. Maybe you should understand this one NC (no cajones):

            The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. Corrupt are they, and have done abominable iniquity: there is none that doeth good. God looked down from heaven upon the children of men, to see if there were any that did understand, that did seek God. Every one of them has gone back: they are altogether become filthy; there is none that doeth good, no, not one. Have the workers of iniquity no knowledge? Who eat up my people as they eat bread: they have not called upon God, There were they in great fear, where no fear was: for God hath scattered the bones of him that encampeth against thee: Thou hast put them to shame, because God hath despised them.

            Psalms 53 Verses 1 – 5

            Why don’t you remember this and remember hat God will deal with evil ones, like you NC, in due time. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

        • NC

          SC, you asked what is the name of my “false” God? Sorry, but I don’t have one of those! If it is mportant to you that I have one, then you have my permission to pick one out and give him a name! On second thought, make “him” a woman!

          Do you have any idea why God killed those innocent children or do you just not want to talk about it?? I’ll understand if it’s too embarrasing!!!

          • FreedomFighter

            God didnt kill any little children. Like others blinded by there own hate, self doubt you make false witness. Gods plan is explained in great detail in the bible, find your answers, look in the book.

            Freewill is a gift, let none take it from you, but choose your side wisely. The father of lies is not your friend.

            Laus Deo
            Semper Fi

          • Vigilant

            NC, if you had any world experience or knowledge, you’d know that EVERYONE has faith in the unseen. Call it a “myth” if you will, but consider that the Greek word for “myth” meant something not necessarily literal truth, but embodying a concept of abstract truth that was actually superior to literal truth.

            The whole crux of human existence, that which makes us homo sapiens, is the ability to perceive abstract truths. If you cannot do that, you are indeed either less than human or an idiot.

            You can no more “prove” that God doesn’t exist than you can “prove” that he does exist, if you use the yardsticks of science alone. I don’t expect one of your limited ability to accept that idea, but if you use only the “I believe it if I can see it” approach to life, you will live a singularly unimaginative, cynical and drab existence with no ability to ever rise above the mundaneness of your experience.

            BTW, it is not the atheism I rail at, it is the particular enthusiasm displayed by you and others in deriding and scoffing at the beliefs of people. It belies the “sensitivity” you lefties are so wont to regale us with, and seeks to deny a life of meaning for others.

          • http://naver samurai

            God said all first born, not all were children. He did this because of what Pharoh Ramses II wanted to do to the Hebrews. He wanted to do the same thing, but with his soldiers doing the dirty work. It was also the 10th plague to strike Egypt. After this, Ramses II freed the people of Israel from slavery. Looks like Ramses II was the progressive in this case and believer in false gods. Your kind always lose, but you are just to blind to see it. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

      • FreedomFighter

        Here is one of the many reasons you communists will fail to take America:

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PX4Flhw0HSA&feature=related

        Laus Deo
        Semper Fi

      • Cowboyup

        NC While you condem me for my faith in Jesus Christ, it is by this same faith that I love you and pray that through the Holy Spirit you will be given eyes to see and ears to hear. Romans 10:9-11 if you are tired of the darkness that has hardened your heart.

        • NC

          Cowboyup. I am not condemnimg your faith. I ask you what the difference is between these innocent children ” Exodus 12:29 And it came to pass, that at midnight the LORD SMOTE all the firstborn in the land of Egypt” and the “death” of a group of cells you call a child? You replied back that I have a hard heart and I have NEVER NEVER smote an innocent firstborn!!!! Want to give the question one more try???

      • Karolyn

        That’s all BS anyway. A real God would never do something like that. The Bible is just a book of control methods – myths fabricated to make people behave.

        • FreedomFighter

          I used to be an athiest, now I know how wrong I was.

          Based on math, a very rigid science, the probability is that God exists.

          Based on my experiance, I know.

          K, our reality is not the exent of reality, its just all we can see.

          Laus Deo
          Semper Fi

          • Karolyn

            FF – I see a lot more than you might think, and I am not an atheist.

          • Joe H.

            Yes karolyn, but all you see is rose colored!!! Take off the glasses and open your eyes a little wider!

        • http://naver samurai

          Actually, that would be the false book called the Quar’an. I guess you’ve never heard this quote:

          “The Smiles of Heaven can never be expected on a Nation that disregards the eternal rules of Order and Right, which Heaven itself Ordained.”

          George Washington

          Since abortion is the opposite of what God has Ordained, this is one thing that could make God to go against us. Who can stop God? I sure don’t have that power. As I’ve stated before, abortion is starting to lose its grip on this country as more and more people become educated as to what it really is. The butchering of an innocent life. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

  • http://chrome DB

    IN DEEP DOO.

    Republiwhats present mitt cause they know he can’t win. He is powerless to avoid the “gotcha”, mouth expression when he feel he has “gotcha”.

    VOTE? for whom? gwb, 2nd biggest thief? mccain, poster boy for military industral complex? now the mormon, to replace the muslim??

    TEA PARTY, That’s who, and get term limits and NO, NADA, pensions for life !

  • GregS

    PP screamed to the world that SGK’s reasons for discontinuing funding were “politically motivated,” and then PP (and its political allies) bullied SGK into reversing that decision.

    Wow! Talk about “political motivation!” Planned Parenthood is nothing short of one huge political machine. It’s one of the few organizations that is considered a “charity,” it has a PAC, and it takes our tax dollars all at the same time. It’s a billion-dollar corportation, and yet it still gets our tax dollars. What a scam!

    • eddie47d

      Much like the oil lobby!

      • Joe H.

        eddie,
        At least with the oil lobby almost everyone uses what they pay for!! i will never use planned parenthood! Will you never use oil???

      • Vigilant

        No eddie, the oil lobby is not a charity, as much as you and other anti-capitalists may wish it to be nonprofit.

  • Rachelrao

    Well Mr. Obama it is great to hear your quote scriptures. Now that you say much has been given to you, please let the nation know just HOW MUCH you will give back in return (per your own quote). Do you think you will average anything close to what Republicans and other church goers give? Please do let us know what you will be giving being among the “to who much is given”………. And also let us know is this the third time you have attended Church since your inauguration?

    • NC

      Rachelrao, one should give their tithes and alms without fanfare and offer their prayers up from the solitude of their homes. Not on the public square or in the public schools.

      • Joe H.

        NC,
        The constitution says I can pray where I will!!! are you now anti-constitution???

        • NC

          JoeH, I was just reminding Rachelrao what Jesus said about tithes and praying! I very much agree with the interpretation that the Constitution forbids subjecting public school students from state prepared prayers of any religion. I have no objection to any person praying silently anywhere they choose! Jesus seemed to say that public praying and public dispaying of your charity was not the way it should be done!!

          • Joe H.

            NC,
            Site the verse that says you should pray privately. I seem to remember the Bible saying to NOT HIDE YOUR LIGHT UNDER A BUSHEL BASKET BUT TO REVEAL IT FOR ALL TO SEE!

  • NoCAGal

    No sense talking with libs. They are so brainwashed and deep in lib doo-doo that they can’t see what the hell is going on! Com mies everywhere and most of them are clueless to the fact that that is what they are touting and living! Idiots! Stupid IDIOTS!

    • NC

      NoCA, the numbers are already in on bush, the crawford cretin, and we don’t have to guess how badly he did! They are written IN stone! And all of America knows where he started from thanks to Slick Willy! Right on top!!
      Your ignorance and denial is so evident that it also is written in stone!
      COMMIES EVERYWHERE! The first time I heard that was from an alcoholic Republican by the name of Joe McCarthy who was shamed out of Washington died in disgrace. WELCOME BACK LITTLE JOE!

      • JeffH

        NC, perhaps you could qualify this part of your comment. I think I know(surplus myth?)but rather than guess I’d rather hear from you. I’ll warn you though, if it is what I think…it ain’t true and never was.

        “And all of America knows where he(Bush) started from thanks to Slick Willy! Right on top!!

        …and please don’t yell(all caps) if you decide to address my question…

        • http://naver samurai

          Yes, Clinton was on top. Just ask how Hillary found him with other women. No offense intended towards anyone. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

  • Rex S

    You’re right, Obama does not support religious charities. However, he did donate $40,000.00 a year to his anti-American Trinity United Church of Christ in Chicago, which in turn sent money to the Palestinians. He also sat on the Board of a charitable organization in Chicago, during which time $58 million simply disappeared.

  • FreedomFighter

    If anyone would like to listen to an excellent internet radio show by a little known patriot, enjoy:

    http://soundwaves2000.com/survive2thrive/

    go Hawk go…

    Laus Deo
    Semper Fi

    • chuckb

      hawk tells it like it is. people better start waking up.

  • David

    Is there anything ( most of you people ) won’t try to spin into a negative ? I’m really starting to hate this site.

    There’a a old quote of Roosevelt’s which I think everyone should try to keep in mind….

    “The President is merely the most important among a large number of public servants. He should be supported or opposed exactly to the degree which is warranted by his good conduct or bad conduct, his efficiency or inefficiency in rendering loyal, able, and disinterested service to the Nation as a whole. Therefore it is absolutely necessary that there should be full liberty to tell the truth about his acts, and this means that it is exactly necessary to blame him when he does wrong as to praise him when he does right. Any other attitude in an American citizen is both base and servile. To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public. Nothing but the truth should be spoken about him or any one else. But it is even more important to tell the truth, pleasant or unpleasant, about him than about any one else.”

    “Roosevelt in the Kansas City Star”,
    May 7, 1918

    • Joe H.

      David,
      If you are truely starting to hate this site, you do have an option, unlike the unborn!!

  • amwa

    I see the crazies are alive and well on this web sight. Barack Obama 2012.

    • Nadzieja Batki

      You don’t know when you should stop talking about yourself.

      • Deerinwater

        well, he knows who’s to be the next president which seems to be more then you know. But I’d not be so crass and tell you to keep quite as I enjoy hearing you take on and cry.

        • Joe H.

          Hey deer!! Looks like you haven’t been drinkin tonight, I understand your posts!!

          • Vigilant

            Good one Joe!

            Deer actually didn’t launch into some Freudian/Jungian psychobabble to try and explain how he is above the fray but everyone else is screwed up. And he only made two incorrect word choices.

            Will miracles never cease!

          • http://naver samurai

            Plus it wasn’t incredibly long. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

    • http://naver samurai

      A vote for Obama bin Laden is a vote for America’s death. Vote Ron Paul 2012. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

  • chuckb

    david, so what did roosevelt say, are we to not question or condemn a man who has trampled on the constitution, ignored the laws of the land. placed our troops in foreign entanglements without the approval of congress. ran the countries debt to record limits and refuses to stop illegal immigration, i could go on, however, we have a right to condemn, speak out against this despot called barry soetoro. fdr was trying to cover his own rear end and he had a lot to cover when the truth came out.

  • Bob Marshall

    Nov. 05 2008 Exit polls showed that about 70% of married women- mothers and non-mothers voted for Obama. 97% of African-Americans voted for Obama. 74% Latinos voted for Obama. Asians and other minorities 68%. Age group fro 18-24 68% voted for Obama. Obama got votes from many different groups.Obama did a great job of fooling millions of blacks and playing the whites. When he said in his book, Audacity of Hope: “i will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction.” that should have been enough for a true patriot.Too few bother to read books and count on the corporate controlled news media for their information. Even research has become a lost art. Because millions are counting on government assistance politicians know it is political suicide to vote for reducing funds for Social Security, Medicare or any other entitlement program.millions of Americans see terrorist around every corner so they don’t dare reduce the Defense budget by much.Actually when the hidden cost are included it come to slightly over one trillion dollars annually.Most Americans don’t care that the Pentagon announced that 25% of military spending cannot be accounted for or that on Sept. 10, 2001 Donald Rumsfield announced to congress that the Pentagon could not account for $2.3 trillion. Norah Webster: ” If we vote an immoral man into office we are traitors to our country.” Obama has a good chance at re-election because many minorities will probably vote for him again.He is doing the job the elite put him in office to do and he is carrying out the dreams of his father.All of the bickering between Republican candidates is just helping Obama.

    • Deerinwater

      Well missing money has always bothered me! Especially when what I was sold turns out not to be what I bought!

      • Joe H.

        Then I take it you dislike Abummer VERY MUCH, right?

  • Okie Ron

    Wow–This is a really interesting twist of Barking Points from the rabid right!

    Especially considering that this is coming from the nitwit Confederacy party that tried to hand over the launch codes to the largest collection of nuclear weapons in the world to Sarah Palin…a phony, ignorant knock-off political response to Hillary Clinton–who is held in high esteem as a Secretary of State even by right-wing chickenhawks.

    The important thing was for the Confederacy Party to try to phony-coddle the women’s vote. After all, to the Confederacy, a woman is a woman is a woman. They’re all useless so one’s as good as another. And they believe that women, like other minorities, are too stupid to tell the difference, and they figured they’d turn out for Palin in droves. ‘Which is pretty much the way they’ve traditionally viewed the non-Aryan ethnicities.

    The same way with Michael Steele. He is actually a very intelligent African-American man, but he was trotted out to kiss Rush Limbaugh’s hiney and be uppity-ness free. But the important thing was that he looked like a black man–and that’s all the Confederacy Party wanted the ethnicities to know.

    So, it’s fascinating that, after years of denigrating anyone who isn’t a white male, they have the gall to accuse Obama of declaring war on women…

    …but then that’s always been their BS tactic:

    The Party that played the race card–infamously–in the Willie Horton political ads, and “swiftboated” John McCain in the South Carolina primaries in 2000, accusing McCain of negritude and miscegination, suggesting his adopted daughter was his African-American “love child”.
    She was adopted from India, actually, but as every RealWhite TrueAmerican Republican knows, a darkie is a darkie is a darkie.

    That same party beats the nonsensically beats the drum that only the Democrats are the racists.

    That same party photoshops Obama in a Hitler uniform and would have stupid people believe that a black man was the secret CommuNaziNiggakenyanHomoSocialist who was the leader of one of the most Aryan, racist, sadistic, war-mongering, book-burning cultures in human history. The biggest enemy of the Third Reich: Educated “elites”.

    The same party that crowed with a smirk: “I’m with the “haves” and the “have-mores”, could accuse Democrats of class warfare…simply for calling them on their own decades-long class warfare, which they’ve never tried to hide until now.

    The same Karlrovian party that created “Swiftboating” and “ratf*cking” would have the self-righeous hypocrisy to accuse Democrats of dirty politics.

    Why would they do all this when it’s so glaringly obvious that they’re lying?

    THEY JUST WANT POWER.

    IN 2012, THEY WANT TO SHOVE CHENEY 2.0 UP OUR HINEYS–the way they shoved Cheney 1.0 up there in 2000, with help from the “independent” Republican Florida Election Commision and the “independent” Republican Supreme Court–a wholly-owned subsidiary of Koch Bros.

    By installing our first unelected chickenhawk president, they gave us the longest war in U.S. history–and it only killed 5,000 of our best and bravest and will have cost–by Ron Paul’s estimates, a mere $4 trillion dollars. We can surely recoup that cost by waterboarding the poor and former middle class, and look at all the fakey-patriotism “War President” fun that gave us! ‘Small price to pay for bankruptcy.

    In 2012, we’re not going to choose between RighteousAmericanSuperCapitalism and EvilduerSocialism.

    We’re going to choose between living in the United States of America and the Confederate States of America–whose largest GDP back in the day was in the trafficking in impoverished human beings.

    After all, the Party of John Wilkes Booth executed Abraham Lincoln for redistribuing wealth from rich “job creators” in the South (he freed their slaves), and dragging the South, kicking and screaming, into all the prosperity of the 20th Century while they looked back wistfully to “Mourning in America” of their old-timey, economically doomed slave-owning economy. They don’t like change, and why should they? They presided over the top of the greatest pyramid scam in American history.

    They’ve demonstrated that they’re willing to take with the bullet what they lose with the ballot in order to keep the plantation-owning elites in power.

    They’re just trolling on sites like this trying to find the Right rabid white fanatic, long on firearms and short on book-learnin’, to do their dirty work so they can seize power and then sigh about ‘people exercising their second-amendment remedies’.

    So it’s hardly surprising to find another flaming headline about another way that “Obama has DECLARED WAR on some other part of America. It’s part of beating that goose-steppy constant drum of hatred. After all, the libs aren’t the ones who flocked to gun shops and cleaned out the shelves.

    They may, in fact, succeed in overthrowing America–they’re working at it really hard on sites like this, but don’t make the same mistake President Cheney did…

    …America will NEVER welcome them as liberators.

    • Palin16

      Okie from Muskogee,
      I see you been livin up in them thar hills or you’d know that everything Sarah Palin has accomplished, she did on her own, unlike Hillary Clinton who just rode her husband’s coattails to get where she is. Mrs. Clinton is an arrogant, pompous woman who thinks she is entitled to be president just because she hung the drapes in the White House.

      • http://naver samurai

        :-) FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

  • Palin16

    Has anyone seen Obama’s new “African Americans for Obama 2012″ commercial?
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BdjoHA5ocwU

    • http://naver samurai

      :-( FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

  • Suzanne

    First of all, Ben…
    Quit making this about Democrat vs. Republican… they’re both exactly the same once you strip away the rhetoric. They’re both doing the exact same junk! Unending wars and police state while looting our savings and putting us all out of work. We gotta get past the fake politics.

    Secondly: I never understood the whole abortion thing. No man should have any say-so on any womens issues… until he has personally given birth.
    I don’t like the idea of abortion, but then again, I also don’t think that crack-mothers should be cranking out messed-up kids with severe medical problems and developmental deficits just to pick up the AFDC checks.
    Other than that… if someone is so selfish and self-absorbed that they will go get knocked-up and then get the abortion… just remember… they can’t do that more than 5-6 times before they’re stuck adopting. It is a self-correcting problem. Keep politics and religion out of it and make sure that “safe” abortions are available.

    • JimH

      Suzanne, An abortion is always fatal to the baby. There is no such thing as a safe abortion.
      A man doesn’t need to give birth to know a mother killing her own unborn baby is evil.

    • Deerinwater

      Well Suzanne, the Tea Party has an agenda and much of it is not on the surface, it can not be, for if it were few would be voted into office.

      They speak openly of being over taxed while our Federal Taxes are very low in comparison to previous years. So that’s a Null message.

      They speak of government being too large while it was self described “conservatives” made it so if you look back on recent history. So that is NULL. They actually like government while claiming the don’t.

      They speak of the FED spending too much money while it was they the “conservatives” while in power that spent it.

      The Tea Party offers us very clear agendas while much is cloaked and hidden. Like the governor of Wisconsin, only until they get in might you see their true design.

      1. To offer any and all resistance anyway possible to a sitting administration without being encumbered and restricted by the GOP party affiliation label. This allows money to move about more freely and offers some ambitiousness protection to GOP activities. The primary goal is of course to unseat 44 and from the beginning they have done this.

      2. They truly are not about cutting spend but killing certain things, they plan to kill by cutting spending. Lower income women care being but one of many things that they plan to kill by killing spending. The reasons why they wish to do this can be many and varied and really don’t matter much because just any reason will do.

      So spending is not an issue but what money is being spent on and to who’s benefit IS! They will spend like drunken sailors on shore leave if it suites their fancy.

      3. They are elevated and pious with the sense of a latter day Christian crusader and feel righteousness is on their side, harboring plans of installing Church into government at every opportunity. They want Dominion of American government and all of her peoples.

      4. They attack unions and government works under a guise fighting socialism while all they really wish to do in weaken funding to the DNC.

      Make no mistake, the American people are under attack.

      The question you could ask yourself is , WHY?

      well they really don’t need a reason , they can make them up.

      They are better then you and hate to sharing air with you. They are the spoiled child that can never get or have enough.

      The world owes them something and they are here to collect.

      • Vicki

        Deerinwater talks about the tea party:

        well they really don’t need a reason , they can make them up.

        They are better then you and hate to sharing air with you. They are the spoiled child that can never get or have enough.

        The world owes them something and they are here to collect.

        The most serious case of projection I have seen in a while. I have seen the above attitude recently. A lot. From the OWS and supporters but not the tea party.

    • Joe H.

      Suzanne,
      WOW!! you want your cake and want to eat it too!!! A man has no say on support if the woman decides to keep the child, the man has no choice if the woman decides to murder the child. The woman gets to use the man to her hearts content and them throw him away like a used shoe!!! In almost all cases the man can’t even have any say about who gets to bring up the child if it gets to be born!!!

      • GregS

        Amen,Joe! The abortion industry has played a huge role in the destruction of relationships between men and women by labeling abortion as a “women’s issue.” It’s sort of like the class warfare that’s being brought about by the Obama administration. They’ve brainwashed many women into thinking that men have no say in anything, regardless of their role in the relationship. It’s really quite selfish, to say the least.

        Additionally, some men will take advantage of this situation and encourage or force the woman to have an abortion, if they themselves don’t want to deal with the child, even though the woman may want the child. These are usually the men who call themselves “pro-choice.”

        The abortion industry really has a lot to answer for in the destruction of our civilization.

        • http://naver samurai

          Right on and very well said. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

    • GregS

      Suzanne says:

      “No man should have any say-so on any womens issues… until he has personally given birth.”

      The abortion issue is not a man-vs-woman thing by any stretch of the immagination. Many major pro-life organizations are headed up by women who have “personally given birth” many times (e.g. Carol Tobias, president of National Right To Life, which is the largest pro-life organization in the country, and Charmaine Yoest, president and CEO of Americans United For Life, which is a major pro-life law and policy organization). In fact most of the people that I know, who are in the pro-life movement, are women. The woman-vs-man label is a cover-up by the abortion industry to take attention away from the fact that abortion takes a HUMAN LIFE.

      Suzanne says:

      “I also don’t think that crack-mothers should be cranking out messed-up kids with severe medical problems and developmental deficits just to pick up the AFDC checks.”

      The very fact that crack-mothers are still “cranking out messed-up kids” should tell you that abortion has done NOTHING to solve this problem, even though it’s been legal for ANY and ALL reasons, thru the LAST day of pregnancy, since 1973.

      Suzanne says:

      “…just remember…they can’t do that more than 5-6 times before they’re stuck adopting.”

      Taking 5-6 human lives to “correct” a probelm is NOT an acceptable solution by any stretch of the immagination!

      Suzanne says:

      “Keep politics and religion out of it…”

      Abortion is NOT a religious issue: It’s a HUMAN LIFE issue. There are atheists who are pro-life.

      With regard to the politics, Roe v Wade / Doe v Bolton made it a political issue in 1973, when they legalized abortion for ANY and ALL reasons, thru the LAST day of the pregnancy.

    • Vicki

      Suzanne writes:

      I never understood the whole abortion thing. No man should have any say-so on any womens issues… until he has personally given birth.

      No “pro-choice” person should have any say-so on any abortion issue until he/she as personally experienced being aborted.

      • Joe H.

        Vicki,
        Very good Idea!!! The only one I know of that survived a saline abortion has given many talks and is VERY ANTI-ABORTION!!! Had the nurse that assisted in the abortion not given comfort to the girl, she would have expired, in pain, cold, alone, discarded from life like a non-living tumor. she is a well educated, well spoken young lady today! I forget her name, but I’m sure someone here could tell you.

      • http://naver samurai

        Now this is a very well said and common sense post. Keep up the good fight, fellow patriots! You can tell we are winning by how much more nastier the left’s responses are becoming. 하나님 하고 나라를 위해서! FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

      • GregS

        Ditto to what samurai said. Excellent points, Vicki, Joe H, and libertytrain!

  • jopa

    Mitt Romney gave millions to charity but for one organization only, the Mormon church.What their mission or cause is, who knows but the members of of their group.Non Mormons are not allowed in the Mormon church so it can remain a secret society.Even when Mitt(Willard) and his wife were married, her parents were not allowed in the church.Seems kinda weird to me but that’s freedom of religion so we can’t complain about that one.Just a thought.

    • Karolyn

      Good point, jopa. The Mormons are a very closed society. From what I have learned in doing a little study on them a few years ago, I would imagine that had he not contributed so much, he would have been blackballed. Also, the LDS is rather reticent in helping those outside of the ranks.

  • Palin16

    To: Bob Livingston
    When I went to vote in the Nevada caucus today, a lady asked me if I know any good websites. I told her to check out PersonalLiberty.com

    • http://www.boblivingstonletter.com/ Bob Livingston

      Dear Palin16,

      Thank you.

      Best wishes,
      Bob

  • Robert J. Bartley

    This from a group who would have women locked up in the house wrapped in hefty bags like the Moslems?

    • Vicki

      Robert J. Bartley writes:

      This from a group who would have women locked up in the house wrapped in hefty bags like the Moslems?

      I have heard conservatives want many things of and from us but the closest to your description of how liberals seem to want is would be “in the kitchen, barefoot and pregnant”. That was a belief by some to be the way to keep us happy. That attitude is so last century.

      The only people currently using the phrase are liberals. It is a variation of the race card.
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barefoot_and_pregnant

      • libertytrain

        Vicki, you’re so correct. I hadn’t thought of the “call them racist” tactics but you’re right, it does correlate with the whole “barefoot and pregnant” that is also a common ploy of the left, particularly when their race card fails…. :)

  • Robert J. Bartley

    Save your time unless you agree with these nut jobs your post will be deleted. Ah yes liberty their way ond only their way.

    • libertytrain

      Robert, seems you are incorrect. Your post is here…

      • http://naver samurai

        D’oh! :-) FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

        • vicki

          Robert J. Bartley should try posting a conservative point on a liberal website to really experience “moderation”. Typical of liberals to accuse their opponent of acts that the liberal routinely does.

          • Joe H.

            YES!!! Try Dailykos!!!

  • http://aol clarence pack

    more republican LIES to try to put the blame on democrats

    • JimH

      Clarence, Could you be more specific? What part is a lie and what would the truth be? Your statement is very vague.

    • http://naver samurai

      Troll alert! Troll alert! FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

    • vicki

      clarence pack says:

      more republican LIES to try to put the blame on democrats

      Proof by bald assertion. Debate fail.

  • Merl

    How about the liberal democrats war on white women and whites? Jessie Jackson, Jr. once said the largest group of poor people in the US are single white women. I agree, because I always made about $5 too much to qualify for any government aid programs. Because I am white and Christian, I do not qualify for promotion in workplaces with affirmative action programs. My competence, work and attitude are excellent. However, I am told that it doesn’t matter how good I am, because I am not on the agenda. Therefore, many white women decide not to have children, or decide to terminate their pregnancies because they cannot afford children. Liberal Dems could therefore be called as the biggest killer of white babies. For this reason, I despise liberals and all of their viciousness, lies, evil and hypocracy. Liberals are famous for replacing discrimination with discrimination. When you scratch the surface, you will find that most liberals are very arrogant, power hungry, angry, mad, and dangerous people, who although treacherous and cunning are not very bright; yet have managed to succeed through destructive politics. Therefore, be very careful never to criticize liberals in the workplace, because they will ruin your reputation, and write you up with fabricated and exagerated charges that could cost you your job. Yes, liberals will go after your job with unsatisfactory ratings, your sanity with harassment, and threaten your life, your family, and pets to force your compliance. Liberal employers will spy on and stalk anyone who does not agree with them and pry into all of their personal accounts and activities to acquire information to use against them. They will send out spy toadies to track you. Liberals with hound and harass you mercilessly and without relent. They will desecrate all that is sacred to you. Your worklife will be a hellish battle just to survive, because liberal bullies have no respect for the truth, for you, or your individual rights. Liberals have no respect for the Constitution that they think is an outdated document that makes their lives difficult. Many liberals are lazy and have a great sense of self importance and entitlement. Liberals want to make lots of money without having to work very hard and many of them do. Liberals are easily threatened by anything. Liberals want to do their evil without being responsible because they feel their evil is necessary to thwart those who disagree with them. Yet liberals claim to be for fairness, equality and against bullying and violence of any type? Liberals demand complete obedience to their gospels or they will not appreciate your help and good works or you. Liberals will badly use and trash those who are not just like them. Liberals love to spread misery. Beware.

    • FreedomFighter

      They are called sociopaths, psychopaths.

      Liberalism is a mental disorder.– M. Savage

      Laus Deo
      Semper Fi

    • Karolyn

      Wow! You must have had some pretty bad experiences on the job. You made some pretty sweeping gneralizations. I don’t know what your definition of liberal is, but I have never had a problem working with and for liberals. Of course, I have always worked in small places. Maybe that’s the problem – typical office politics – which happens no matter what “side” you’re on.

    • http://naver samurai

      You hit the target center mass by being 100% correct. We had a teacher that quit and went to another school district, because I tought the kids about our Christian founding. I guess her atheism couldn’t take being told the truth. Though I never said anything to her about her beliefs, she said that was the reason she quit. She even threatened to get a representative from the ACLU, to which I said I would get a representative from the ACLJ for the school. They wouldn’t charge the school any fee and they have never lost to the ACLU in any court case. Some people never grow up. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

  • http://deleted Claire

    I lost Bob last week, and I am heartbroken but he is at peace now and no longer sick. This is what I will keep telling myself to get through the rest of my life without him. He was a kind, gentle and strong person. If he were to ever have posted on this site, I KNOW he would not insult another human being just because they think and believe differently. Hate will never solve issues or problems. This is one of the reasons why this world is what it is.

    • http://naver samurai

      I’m soory to hear about your husband Claire. You have our deepest sympathies. My God and Jesus continue to guide and help you in your daily life. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

    • libertytrain

      Claire, I agree with your thoughts on hate. And nice to see you here again after your dreadful loss.

    • Palin16

      Claire,
      You have my deepest and sincere condolences.

    • Tom W.

      You and your family are in all of our prayers Claire. May Bob rest in peace.

    • Joe H.

      Claire,
      Gods Love comfort you in your time of need. God Bless, friend.

  • Tom W.

    I just had the most awesome weekend of my life! First Sat., me and my estranged older brother who haven’t spoken in four years reunited and buried the hatchet! Sun. morn get an email from my daughter who I haven’t spoken to either for that length of time got a hold of me and informed me that her and my grand-daughter’s dad are going to get hitched!!! Then experienced the Shekinah Glory of God at church Sun. PM!!! What a weekend! PRAISE GOD!!!;) And the Giant’s won too!!! Glory hallelujah!!! GO BIG BLUE!!!

  • Lori

    For the people that are pro-choice,go to youtube and watch an abortion being done. I DO NOT recommend it for the pro-life people on here. I cried forever after watching one. Than come back and tell us you’re still for choice. My anger at this just deepens my will to stop this. I won’t link a video,to graphic.

    • Bob

      How about that you “pro life” people watch an execution or what war does to people. You are so gung-ho about protecting a fetus but you don’t seem to care what happens to people after their born, especially if their skin isn’t white.

  • HH

    I couldn’t tell who said this Smilee or Samurai, ”Economic slavery which we see so much of today, wages that do not provide for self support anymore.”

    Smilee or Samurai also said, “When I was young a job provided you a living today it no longer does so the big businesses lobbied for this wage subsidies and other welfares so their employees can make a living without them having to pay them a living wage.”………..

    The government controls the money in this country. The wage subsidies are just a small portion of the taxes paid in by big corporations.

    And here’s what brought this about……….. BIG government!

    Back in the 60’s our government was not as big and wage earners did not pay as much of a percentage in taxes, also “big business” didn’t pay as much of a percentage in taxes either and therefore had more money to pay their employees’ a salary they could thrive on. Average wage earners also had more money to spend!

    As government got bigger it had to raise our personal income and corporate taxes to fund it. Corporations had to cut salaries and benefits to make up the difference in the higher taxes it has to pay. The money that they once had to pay their employees now goes to the government the same as our higher personal income taxes.
    Higher taxes imposed on corporations by the government now have to be “subsidized” or redistributed by the government to make up the difference in lower salaries paid to their employees. But, there is not enough money to make up the difference because the corporate taxes that are paid in fund other areas of our BIG GOVERNMENT!!!

    Wake up folks, big government is the problem! We need to reduce the size of our government and lower corporate taxes.

  • jopa

    Claire:Really sorry to hear of your loss.It will be tough at times but You have the strength and willpower to carry on.You and your family are in our prayers.

  • John Christmas

    Ask a person 10 minutes before he is born if his rights to life should be ignored. The only person with ANY valid input on the subject is murdered. Is that LIBERTY? Is that DEMOCRACY?

  • http://gravatar.com/zee333 Randy Zee

    So Rick Santorum (he as President (government) would tell women what to do with their vaginas) is a Democrat? Since when have Democrats told rape & incest victims that they should bring their fetuses to term?

    I like Newt…he is for open marriages!

  • Neil Swan

    Obama gave the million he made from wining the Nobel to Care. He does give to charity.
    He also is not a religious right nut case like those who say the Democrats are against women. It’s the Republicans against women’s right to choose. or to enjoy sex by using contraceptives.

    Neil

  • Eric Bischoff

    Abortion is legal

    Your misogyny makes you no better than the Taliban

    Start a war with women, brilliant!

    The Iroquois had it right when they let women have the final vote on any major issue.

    Oh and by the way the answer to all of the world’s problems, overpopulation, food, healthcare, crime, wars, etc.. Educate and empower women.

  • http://mazillafirefox Linda M.

    Question: Which of the four GOP contenders voted to force taxpayers (Medicaid/Medicare) to pay for men’s Viagra prescriptions. At the same time they were voting to disallow those same entities to pay for women’s mammograms?

  • Bob

    This is so pathetic! A laugh track for this garbage? Only makes me appreciate more how pathetic conservatives are.

  • Cheryl

    Planned Parenthood’s main goal is abortions NOT woman’s health. Several months after I got married I, unknowingly, went to a planned parenthood’s facility to find out if I was pregnant. I was escorted to a bathroom where I was locked in there while I went to the bathroom. I had knock on this pass through so I could give it to someone. I was then unlocked from the bathroom and told to wait in the lobby. Someone came out to me and told me I was pregnant and if this was a problem they could take care of it then and their. Really, really. A problem…I promptly told the woman babies were not problems and that I was married and I take FULL RESPONSIBILITIES for the things I do. A baby even one minute old is a person not a problem. I was totally ashamed to have even walked into this facility. Why wouldn’t I think they were there for woman and all woman’s issues. Once again they are not there BUT to make money killing babies.

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