The Death Of Common Sense Is The Death Of The Rule Of Law

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Common sense is a crucial support of the rule of law. Without it, the rule of law is dead. The law then stands on air, ephemeral as gossamer and as malleable as Play-Doh.

Common sense is dead in America, slain by the psychopathic ruling class and progressive propagandists teaching America’s youth to pledge fealty to the state at all cost and teaching collectivist claptrap, pseudo history, feelings-based psychobabble and political correctness above reading, writing, arithmetic, history and language arts. Several generations of youths have now grown up devoid of common sense and with little useable knowledge, having had it washed from their minds by the noneducation system.

When people cannot exercise common sense, normalcy bias and cognitive dissonance take over and dominate their thought processes. Normalcy bias is a condition in which the mind is convinced that because something has not happened, then it cannot or will not happen. When faced with a crisis, a person suffering normalcy bias underestimates the possibility of a disaster occurring and its possible effects. He is rendered unable to function beyond the level of automaton.

Cognitive dissonance is a condition of confusion. If a person believes a “fact” long enough (whether that fact is the truth or not), he cannot ponder or contemplate information or a question that challenges the “fact.” Even when presented with information that is in obvious conflict with currently held beliefs, the person suffering from cognitive dissonance is unable to process the dissonance and so accepts it as a normal state, i.e. conventional wisdom.

The lack of common sense first came to affect the hoi polloi. This was by the design of the ruling class. It is easier to fool and subjugate an ignorant populace than an intelligent one. Tyrants and despots have for years used the ignorance of their subjects against them. Notable examples include the Catholic church’s ban on non-Latin Bible translations, prohibitions against teaching American slaves to read and write, and the Islamists’ current and long-held ban on education for females.

I have written before that government attracts psychopaths. And while they are present throughout government and are evident by their actions, it is unfair to state that the whole of the elected class, all government functionaries and people in authority are psychopaths or exhibit psychopathic behavior. Many are simply suffering from a lack of common sense, which creates normalcy bias, cognitive dissonance or confusion. However, because of their positions of authority and status as “leaders” and “decision makers,” they contribute to the lack of common sense suffered by the masses, for they spread it like a cancer.

The lack of common sense is now pervasive throughout government at all levels. Here are some examples:

  • The Federal tax code is now about 70,000 pages long, contains 3.7 million words and is changed on average more than once per day. It is so confusing that 82 percent of Americans pay for help, and 60 percent of them hire a professional accountant or tax preparer. Taxpayers spend almost $28 billion per year to have their taxes prepared. Even the former head of the Internal Revenue Service, Douglas Shulman, hired a professional tax preparer. It is impossible to get a “correct” answer when calling the IRS for help, because you are likely to get as many different answers as the number of different agents you ask. This puts everyone in danger of becoming a “tax cheat” and subject to fines, penalties and imprisonment. The irony is that taxes are not necessary to fund the government. They were instituted as a control measure and a wealth-redistribution scheme.
  • U.S. regulatory bodies — the alphabet-soup agencies charged, ostensibly, with ensuring Americans are protected from fraud and abuse — are corrupt, fascist systems that serve as a revolving door of cronyism between government, large corporations and lobbying organizations. What they actually ensure is almost monopolistic power for favored corporations, redistribution of wealth from the producers to the large corporations via corporate welfare and tax breaks, and favored status when contracts are doled out. Meanwhile, small businesses are regulated and taxed into destitution and forced to shutter their doors and windows.
  • The U.S. government is in a perpetual state of war, and the enemy is defined only as a “terrorist.” But the definition of terrorist has become all-encompassing and ever-changing and applies to whomever the psychopathic elected class determines is a threat to their power, prestige or office. The threat of “terrorist attacks” is used to gin up fear and further oppress the people. Those threats evaporate as quickly as they appear. Yet they are not questioned. The reality is that terror attacks on American soil are most often created by the FBI, CIA or some NGO (non-government organization) working on behalf of the state. In addition to Afghanistan, the United States has assets attacking so-called terrorists in Pakistan, Syria and Yemen (that we know of) and has attacked them in Iraq, Iran and Philippines. Such a fear of “terror” has created a climate in which the government has decided that it can assassinate American citizens by drones without due process, and many people see nothing wrong with this.
  • While the United States fights undeclared wars against al-Qaida in many countries, it is funding and assisting al-Qaida-linked terrorists in others. An example of this is the recent Libyan revolution and the current hostilities in Syria. With U.S. funds, NATO helped terrorists linked to al-Qaida defeat Libyan leader Moammar Gadhafi’s military so that the terrorists could take power. The U.S. was running guns through the Benghazi consulate to al-Qaida-linked terrorists in Syria.
  • The Barack Obama regime, with an assist from the neocon wing of the Republican Party, backed the Muslim Brotherhood terrorist organization in its rise to power in Egypt and Libya. In Egypt, the Obama-supported Muslim Brotherhood president was thrown from power by a military coup over his efforts to create an Islamist state and failure to crack down on its attacks on the country’s Coptic Christians.
  • In schools, students are being treated like criminals for the “crimes” of biting their food into the shape of guns, cutting off one-fourth of a sheet of paper (a teacher thought it looked like a gun), wearing T-shirts with gun images and the 2nd Amendment printed on them, bringing small G.I. Joe guns to school and throwing temper tantrums. Zero tolerance policies — the ultimate in no-common-sense policies — have even led to children as young as 3 and 4 being charged with sexual harassment and having permanent marks on their school records.
  • The Missouri chapter of the NAACP is calling for the Department of Justice to investigate an incident in which a rodeo clown donned an Obama mask and asked the crowd if they’d like to see Obama run down by a bull. In response to the incident, the Missouri State Fair will force all future clowns to undergo “sensitivity training” mind-alteration therapy for the thought crime of projecting harm on a likeness of the President.

These are just a few examples demonstrating that common sense has been thrown out the window, but the political class and the masses accept as normal. Any questioning of the status quo gets one labeled an extremist, a conspiracy theorist or a “wacko bird.”

Personal Liberty

Bob Livingston

founder of Personal Liberty Digest™, is an ultra-conservative American author and editor of The Bob Livingston Letter™, in circulation since 1969. Bob has devoted much of his life to research and the quest for truth on a variety of subjects. Bob specializes in health issues such as nutritional supplements and alternatives to drugs, as well as issues of privacy (both personal and financial), asset protection and the preservation of freedom.

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  • Motov

    We the people must put our proverbial foot down and stop the madness going on in Washington DC. Why wait for elections, The last one was riddled with fraud,. We will never get a honest election again as long as they run the show. Never had we seen such a den low life blood sucking parasites as we do today in DC. It has to be replaced, The current politicians should be in jail, stripped of our wealth, that they legislated. The Federal Reserve should be audited with a very fine tooth comb, then terminated. Restore the constitution and the Bill of Rights, Terminate any and all politicians who writes, support, undermine any aspect of the constitution, they sworn to preserve. Slash boondoggle legislations, restore true common sense. Teach our children the 3 “R’s”, and critical thinking, Teach journalists to stop biased reporting, and allow the readers to decide for themselves. END lobbying, “special interest”, illegal immigration, declare english as our national language, encourage businesses to return by removing unbelievable regulations, excessive taxations, and end our dependence of foreign energy sources.

    • Clint McInnes

      Sounds like a damn good plan to me. What will it take to enact?

      • NC

        CLINT. WHAT IT “TAKES” IS MORE THAN ONE PERCENT OF THE VOTE THAT MOTOV SPEAKS FOR! THAT’S WHY THEY PREACH GOING TO THE STREETS. JUST LIKE THEIR VERSION OF THE CONSTITUTION STATES???

        • Motov

          I think more than 1% agree with me, It is those upper 1/2% (The filthy rich people) are the ones we gotta watch out for! They are a secret society who pull the strings of our puppet government, They buy the candidates who run for office, so it never matters which party wins because we all lose! They also cause death to those who are their biggest threat(s).
          9-11 was an inside job! to say a coupla muslim armed with just box cutters could disable entire planes? and then crash them? Common sense tells me someone would had disarmed, and beat tbe sheet outta them.
          And how convenient it was to have the “Patriot Act” all written up and ready to sign into law, without months of debates like most bills endure to become law.
          These things happen for a reason, to deceive, draw attention away from something while they set up what they want,….more power, more control, they are obsessed and will stop at nothing to destroy what is left of what we got.

          • NC

            MOTOV, GOTTA LOVE YOU CONSPIRACY THEORIST!!
            9/11 couldn’t happen because all they had was boxcutters?? Do you know how many planes have been hijacked and banks robbed with just a NOTE FROM THE PERP? ALL INSIDE JOBS??????????????HOW MANY PEOPLE WOULD HAVE TO BE INVOLVED IN THE “9/11 CONSPIRACY” FOR IT TO BE AN INSIDE JOB??? AND THIS THREAD IS ABOUT COMMON SENSE??
            MR. BOB, YOU HAVE DONE ONE GREAT JOB WITH MESSING UP MOTOV’S MIND!!
            MOTOV, TELL US “WHAT WE GOT” HERE IN THE USA? REMEMBER THAT ADULT INDEPENDENTS ARE READING YOUR ANSWERS ABOUT JUST HOW “TERRIBLE”(?) THINGS ARE IN THIS COUNTRY!

          • TheOriginalDaveH
          • Don 2

            NC,
            You shouldn’t attempt to blame Bob for what someone writes. After all, we don’t blame Bob for what liberal scumbag bloodsucking Democrat trolls write.

          • Motov

            You aren’t worth my time, what I believe in is what it is.
            What you believe in is your choice,…
            Anything I type is not going to change your mind, and anything you type will certainly not change mine.
            Our government is evil, totally corrupt, and in need of cleaning up. The “R’s” and the “D’s” are both responsible for creating our current mess. Both parties have created an unbelievable debt. Their “gravy train ride” will come to an end. We will get stuck with the bill.
            And the really sad part is,… they will get away with it.

          • WTS/JAY

            This from a man who believes the earth is flat. Next you’ll be telling us you have aliens living in your basement. What’s the matter, NC, can’t find your tin-foil hat?

          • Don 2

            Motov,
            You have to remember that prior to 9-11, planes that were hijacked, were usually flown somewhere, and landed, with the hijacker(s) trying to negotiate for something. They were not suicide missions. The 9-11 victims on those planes did not expect to be the bombs, except for the passengers on the plane that went down in a field in PA., who learned the fate of other planes. That’s why these passengers fought with the hijackers in that instance.

          • Motov

            There was no 757 debri left at the pentagon, a 757 is a sizable plane, about the same size as a 707,…The amount of aluminum used to build it couldn’t have vaporized,.. And why did building #7 come down?, It never got hit by an aircraft. There is so much more that makes this look very fishy

          • Motov

            A suitcase, carry-on luggage makes a good shield and weapon, The passengers outnumber the hijackers.
            The planes that struck the towers were described as military planes. Most people can easily identify airline livery, UAL and AA have paint schemes that make them stand out even at great distances. I believe the planes that struck the towers were Boeing 767 tanker planes.
            They are usually painted grey, and were probably rigged with radio control devices. (Another plane was in the area when they crashed)

      • Vis Fac

        A country full of morons that’s what. Have you ever seen a stoner on weed try and drive or make lucid comment? Have you ever been victimized by someone strung out on dope?

        You’ve had too much dope and are dopey. There IS a reason these drugs are illegal Drugs control you you do not control them. It’s wimps like you who cannot cope without dope and always the first to want them legalized.

        The Only Thing Necessary for the Triumph of Evil is that
        Good Men Do Nothing–Edmund Burke

        A republic is defined as a state in which supreme power is held by the people and their elected representatives, and which has an elected or nominated president…

        Our republic no longer exists because we have an omnipotent self centered clown in the Oval office who is as unconstitutional as anyone can be. Anyone thinking we still live in a republic had best take notice of what OUR elected officials are doing WITHOUT OUR consent. Our republic no longer exists because the people no longer have power!

        … A democracy can be best described as two wolves and a sheep deciding what to have for lunch, while a Republic allows a well armed sheep to contest the vote!” This too shall be a fond memory for our rubber stamp liberally controlled congress is eagerly waiting to disarm us.

        Libertas inaestimabilis res est

        Semper-Fi

        • TheOriginalDaveH
        • Clint McInnes

          To F.R.:
          I get the impression that you are responding to someone else’s post. I was simply agreeing with Motov. He didn’t mention dope, and neither did I.

          In point of fact, I have never used ANY illegal drug. EVER. I am MUCH too addicted to reality to want to compromise it. But that isn’t even CLOSE to the point.

          Since you bring it up … the War on Drugs is a dismal failure, eerily reminiscent of Prohibition. We have conducted this so-called “War” for decades. What do we have to show for it? Any high-school student in the country can get weed if he wants it. It is readily available anywhere. Billions of dollars — that’s BILLIONS, not millions — flow into the coffers of drug cartels every year. They are better-equipped than the police much of the time.

          Legalizing marijuana has precisely JACK to do with whether or not some loser wants to get high and stay that way, and EVERYTHING to do with a pragmatic approach to the problem. It should be treated as a public health issue, not a crime.

          The current drug laws do three things:
          1 — maintain a high price for the stuff so that those who are truly addicted can’t afford it via legal means,
          2 — funnel money and resources away from where they are really needed and into the hands of gangs, and
          3 — keep our prisons packed with people who don’t need to be there.

          The “War” is a drain on every aspect of our society, and the sooner it is ended, the better.

        • Jack

          Forcxe:

          Drugs can certainly destroy people but just like most people who drink do not become alcoholics, most people who use drugs don’t become addicts.

          What happened to your “love” of fredom and small government? Seems that you only want fredom for yourself.

          When I was younger I saw a lot of stoners and drunks drive and if you did three consecutive tours in Nam as you claim, so did you.

          I would pick the stoner any day because they tried to be careful and they drove very slow while the drunks didn’t think they were affected and they tried to drive very fast. I also spoke to a number of stoners and drunks. The stoners were a lot more lucid than the drunks were. Stoners were very peaceful and mellow while many of the drunks were violent – looking for or starting fights.

          Another thing I noticed is the two drugs affected the same person in different ways.When a person was stoned they acted like a stoner. When they were drunk they acted like the drunks.

          Drugs are illegal only because someone convinced the politicians to make them illegal. Alcohol and tobacco kill hundreds of thousands of users a year. Marijuana kills NONE.

          The drugs that actually kill more people each year (excluding alcohol and tobacco) are actually the drugs that doctors legally prescribe.

          By the way, Force, I do not use alcohol, tobacco, or drugs of any kind, prescription or otherwise. Do you drink? Do you smoke? If so you aren’t you a hypocrite? .

    • Sarah417

      Good job putting everything out there. This is what SHOULD happen, but it won’t. Do you realize that that plan would put everyone out of business. Politicians first. Then all the media spin including FOX. I’m so sick of the spin, it makes my head spin.
      If they secured the border than border patrol would not be needed so much and then how would America get their drugs? You can be sure congressmen and women enjoy recreational drugs.
      One can only dream.

      • Motov

        Legalize marijuana, It is certainly not any worse than alcohol. Dealers? They would be out of business,, price of pot would drop. Jails would lose 1/2 their population, police would be freed up to go after real crooks (like politicians). Consumers would get a more consistent product. Put a tax on it, then watch our national debt shrink. It will force drug companies to come up with better and more effective medicines, that won’t cost people an arm and a leg.

        • Bill

          Good comments, Motov
          I agree with legalizing marijuana, however, I disagree that it would start shrinking the national debt. That would be financially responsible. If you give more money to politicians, they will just blow it on stupid things and not pay off the debt. We need to give them less money.

          • Motov

            You are so right what was I thinking?

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            Giving them less money won’t work either. They will just borrow more from the Federal Reserve and keep on truckin’.

          • Nadzieja Batki

            When is self destruction a part of common sense?

          • Jack

            Nadzieja Batki:

            Since we did so well stopping the use of alcoholic beverages during Prohibition and we have been losing the war on drugs for over over 40 years – pray tell us how spending over 80 billion dollars a year to continue waging a war that can never be won is COMMON SENSE?

            I think its a sign of insanity – doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result than the ones we got before.

          • WTS/JAY

            Legalizing Marijuana will only result in a Government-controlled monopoly. Remember prohibition? People should be free to grow it, like they are free to grow any other herb, if they so wish…other substances not included, off course.

        • Nadzieja Batki

          When did self destruction become part of common sense?

          • Motov

            Why should people be locked up for getting high?
            Understandably if they jump in a car and like alcohol, cause an accident.
            You cannot legislate morality, people are gonna get high no matter what you tell them.
            By making it legal and easy to buy you have a better chance of kids not getting started, like cigarettes and alcohol. you need an ID to purchase it. Since the dealers would be out of business, Store clerks won’t sell pot to kids because they don’t want to lose their jobs.

          • Bob666

            Well Motov,
            Hell must have frozen over as we are in complete agreement. Remember a little program called Prohibition?

            I have seen too many friends use it successfully for legitimate medical reasons-it works.

            Sell it in a liquor store, tax it like liquor and spend the law enforcement budget on more dangerous drugs. The tax revenue alone would knock a hole in the national debt.

          • WTS/JAY

            Allowing government to legalize and tax Marijuana, is in essence granting the government the exclusive monopoly on Marijuana. Ridiculous! Marijuana is a natural growing herb. It need neither be considered illegal, or legalized. But the original intent on placing prohibition on Marijuana was to bring us to this point, when we will insist that the government legalize it; mission accomplished! After all; its what the people want that matters, right? I’m sure Capone saw through the clever facade of prohibition.

          • Bob666

            Yo Jay,

            There are some good points that you have made, but I would offer a couple of differing thoughts. If it is legalized, and I believe it should be, anyone can produce it. Society-no matter who is in control will always try to regulate behavior including controlled substances.

            If legal, The free market will produce it and meet the demands of the market. My late wife used it over 20 years ago to combat the very ugly side effects of chemotherapy. There was not prescription drug that came close to the very positive effects of Marijuana and it was her oncologist who suggested it.

            I Have known several people since who have used it for the same reasons as well as other legitimate medical uses. Being a guy who loves to make money-I have been looking at the commercial cultivation-specifically for the medical use if it was legalized by the federal government..

            Don’t get me wrong, I see financial opportunities for the recreational use as well-but that is not my specific interest. but one of my former business partners suggested a micro-brew/green house combination. Engineers have a way of broad thinking.

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            The price will plummet, Bob, if they legalize it. That’s why the current illegal producers vote against legalization.

          • Motov

            I find it helps with Parkinson’s disease and allows me to relax when I stiffen up.

          • Bob666

            Yo Motov,
            That is a new disease for my list that Can benefit from good old hemp. It seems to me a waste when there is a simple herb that is natural and simple to produce, yet is unavailable to the average consumer.

            I would bet that big pharmacological companies don’t want to see it legalized as well. I am glad that it benefits you and wish you luck-keep pedaling and remember that Lance only had one ball.

    • NC

      Motov, I agree we should “restore the Constitution and the Bill of rights” every day! I love that part of the bill of rights that allows journalist to write what they believe just like our founding fathers wrote what they believed even when the government of the time didn’t like it I am so glad the Bill of rights cleared that up!
      What keeps readers from deciding for themselves? Do you believe everything you read? When do you know what to believe or not believe? When it sounds “right” to you? What if it sounds right to you but not to Ed next door?????
      I’m also for the 3 R’s and critical thinking! Especially that “critical thinking” that began in our public schools and just shot a man made object into the next universe! Nice job, Johnny!
      COMMON SENSE ONCE SAID THE WORLD WAS FLAT! COMMON SENSE HERE ONCE SAID THAT THERE WOULD BE NO ELECTIONS IN 2012 AND OBAMA WOULD BE A DICTATOR BY NOW! YEAH, RIGHT!!!

      • WTS/JAY

        NC: COMMON SENSE ONCE SAID THE WORLD WAS FLAT!

        Do you know at what specific time in history, this apparent “world-view” changed or during which period it prevailed, NC?

        • NC

          wrs/jay, I believe it was during the time frame when the knuckle draggers here first said “It works for us!!”
          SOME THINGS NEVER CHANGE!!

    • billybob

      Don’t talk about it, start something to make those changes.

      • Motov

        I have enough to deal with battling Parkinson’s Disease, thank you.

  • patriot156

    argueing with em too is like pulling teeth. argued common sense with people before, they have this knack of making you feel bad for wanting people to use common sense.

    • Motov

      Common sense is based on experience rather than idealistic reasoning.
      Don’t let them think that trumps common sense.

  • KG

    “The leader of genius must have the ability to make different opponents appear as if they belonged to one category. ”


    Adolf Hitler

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNMRFqPBZ3Y

    • FreedomFighter

      Interesting quote KG…
      Laus Deo
      Semper FI

    • http://batman-news.com samurai

      “Everything for the State; nothing outside the State; nothing against the State.”
      Benito Mussolini
      “I calmly say, ‘Your child belongs to us already. What are you? You will pass on. Your descendents, however, now stand in the new camp. In a short time they will know nothing else but this new community.'”
      Adolf Hitler
      November 06, 1933
      The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich
      “This new Reich will give its youth to no one, but will itself take youth and give youth its own education and its own upbringing.”
      Adolf Hitler
      May 01, 1937
      The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich
      “The best way to take control over a people and control them utterly is to take a little of their freedom at a time, to erode rights by a thousand tiny and almost imperceptible reductions. In this way the people will not see those rights and freedoms being removed until past the point at which these changes cannot be reversed.”
      Adolf Hitler
      “By means of schrewd lies unremittimgly repeated, it is possible to make people believe that heaven is hell – and hell heaven. The greater the lie, the more readily it will be believed.”
      Adolf Hitler
      Mein Kampf
      These are just a few examples of what has been going on with the left and progressives. BTW, interesting quote KG. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
      You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot.
      “In the chain of human events, the birthday of the nation is indissolubly linked with the birthday of the Savior.”
      John Quincy Adams
      1837

      • Don 2

        Good post samurai. Very much in common with the criminal Obama regime.

        • http://batman-news.com samurai

          Thanks. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
          You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot.

  • Grandpa David

    Obamacare is not about health care. 2700 pages followed by 18,000 pages of regulations (and still writing) is about destroying free enterprise and our economy and replacing it with a central planning, totalitarianism dictatorship. It is the super Cloward-Piven strategy.

    • Motov

      And people wonder why politicians don’t want this for themselves. We should add one amendment to the constitution. All laws created by congress must be observed by all equally, no exemptions.

    • vicatman

      it was never about healthcare.. all about control..

    • billybob

      To bad the children of today haven’t been taught about Cloward/Priven strategy on how the destroy this country. Pehaps it would have made a difference at the ballot box !

    • Bill

      Good Analogy, Grandpa

  • vicatman

    the story about the rodeo clown.. like it or don’t like it.. naacp want’s it investigated ??… it’s an assault on our 1st AD rights.. soon we wont even be able to disagree with the king…

  • laura merrone

    “Common sense ain’t so common.” Supposedly a quote from Voltaire. Anyway, its not around at all any more and I could add to this article’s list but I will refrain for now. It’s just sad the state of affairs are in the US. So much for being the “world’s only superpower”. I think that was a bad thing and now we’re paying the price for it. We totally lack in any kind of accountability. That would restore some common sense. Well, when everything crashes and burns maybe we’ll come back to our senses then.

  • 4lifeandfreedom

    Terry Brennan:
    Have to say that people who are pro-choice are NOT using common sense and logic–over 55million unborn(and partially born) babies have been killed since Roe v. Wade of 1973–that is not the result of common sense on the part of judges who ruled this way in an illegitimate case based on a lie.
    It is the D’s who got motor-voting laws passed so they could have control of the ballot box, not the R’s, although they seem to be complicit now by not reversing such.
    We have seen the decline of common sense for years; it is not a new phenomenon. It is great to know the One Who has always been in control and always will be!

    • Don 2

      Isn’t it ironic that all of the pro-abortionists have already been born?

      • TIME

        Dear Don,
        Really its very sad.
        Peace and Love

      • Vis Fac

        I like that one!

        The Only Thing Necessary for the Triumph of Evil is that
        Good Men Do Nothing–Edmund Burke

        A republic is defined as a state in which supreme power is held by the people and their elected representatives, and which has an elected or nominated president…

        Our republic no longer exists because we have an omnipotent self centered clown in the Oval office who is as unconstitutional as anyone can be. Anyone thinking we still live in a republic had best take notice of what OUR elected officials
        are doing WITHOUT OUR consent. Our republic no longer exists because the people no longer have power!

        … A democracy can be best described as two wolves and a sheep deciding what to have for lunch, while a Republic allows a well armed sheep to contest the vote!” This too shall be a fond memory for our rubber stamp liberally controlled congress is eagerly waiting to disarm us.

        Libertas inaestimabilis res est

        Semper-Fi

  • Sarah417

    This is a reminder. The obama Administration considers Tea Party members to be terrorists. Anyone against this administration is deemed terrorists and when he finally becomes our dictator or Hillary becomes our dictator they will have us put in prison or beheaded.
    We can’t wait for elections that have proven to be election fraud. We must act now.
    I have been saying for a year now that we should all show up in DC to march to protest this administration and now the Muslims’ have beat us to it. 9/11 they are having a million Muslim man march because they don’t think they are getting enough respect from the American people. I guarantee that they will be coming from Dearborn, Mi and the state of Tennessee. Millions.
    All this makes me sick.

  • Sarah417

    I cannot believe those people who go to rodeos and fairs are not all wearing Obama masks in solidarity with this poor rodeo clown who lost his job and may be banned for life. What right do they have to do this? Who do they think they are? Why are we letting them get away with their bad behavior. These progressives Republican and Democrat act like spoiled brats who just want their way or they will throw a tantrum. They are childlike adults. None of them have a brain.

    • Grandpa David

      The liberals have taken over the education system and your children are being indoctrinated and , programmed to group think. Common sense wrung out of them.

      • Warrior

        What place is “wiener” in now?

        • Don 2

          Anthony’s Weiner is in the dog house.

        • Grandpa David

          He was in first place for a while. What does that tell you. ?
          Took a sledge hammer to drive in even a modicum of sense, and he is still getting some votes.

        • independent thinker

          Last I heard weinie was in fourth.

      • billybob

        The Liberals have discovered that the conservative don’t fight back. All they do is write about how it should be while the liberals make changes through laws and have dictated this for a number of years. You don’t bring a knife to a gun fight. You want change? They you have to fight for it and take it back. You have to silence this minority that has bullied the conservatives into a nation of lambs.

        • TheOriginalDaveH

          Actually, Bob, it hasn’t just been Liberals. The NeoConservatives have done their fair share of building the scaffolding of Big Government.

          Read this article by Murray Rothbard. He explains the problem well (Dictatorships):
          http://mises.org/journals/jls/7_1/7_1_3.pdf

      • Hawk!

        By next Halloween we’ll ALL be wearing those fashonable orange jump suits!

    • Don 2

      Hell, I can’t understand why the whole country wasn’t wearing Obama masks last Halloween, unless it was considered just too scary for intelligent adults. Perhaps by next Halloween, it will be a federal crime, punishable by a drone strike?

    • Vis Fac

      Because they are AFRAID of being politically incorrect and seen as racist and maybe the underlying fear of reprisal from our fascist government .

      The Only Thing Necessary for the Triumph of Evil is that
      Good Men Do Nothing–Edmund Burke

      A republic is defined as a state in which supreme power is held by the people and their elected representatives, and which has an elected or nominated president…

      Our republic no longer exists because we have an omnipotent self centered clown in the Oval office who is as unconstitutional as anyone can be. Anyone thinking we still live in a republic had best take notice of what OUR elected officials are doing WITHOUT OUR consent. Our republic no longer exists because the people no longer have power!

      … A democracy can be best described as two wolves and a sheep deciding what to have for lunch, while a Republic allows a well armed sheep to contest the vote!” This too shall be a fond memory for our rubber stamp liberally controlled congress is eagerly waiting to disarm us.

      Libertas inaestimabilis res est

      Semper-Fi

    • TheOriginalDaveH

      Does this explain anything — baa-a-a-a, baa-a-a-a, baa-a-a-a?

  • Warrior

    To this day. I still cannot comprehend why a person would place a “D” or an “R” bumper sticker on their vehicle. Anyone care to explain?

    • NC

      warrior, While I am not big on bumper stickers, common sense tells me that for the last 150 years or so this country has been run by the Ds and Rs. and the fact that the third group, the Ls, only pull less that 1% of the vote indicates there is a damned good chance that is going to be the norm for a long time to come. The constitution gives one the right to be a libertarian but it doesn’t give the libertarian to right to govern!
      So, one who feels passionately about a woman’s right to make decisions about her body, a workers right to meet with other workers about matters at his work place, their right to vote like they voted the last time when no election was set aside for voter “fraud” at the voting place, and how tax money is used “for the people” as well as “by the people” especially for the less fortunate which common sense tells us do exist. might just want that D on their bumper ! Since Common sense tells them they are not going to get those things from the Rs and Ls>.
      How is this for a bumper sticker? WE WILL RUIN THE ECONOMY FOR EVERYONE TO GET WHAT WE WANT! SIGNED: THE Rs
      GIMME A “D” !!!!

      • S.C.Murf

        As you have just proven nc Common sense isn’t so common especially for people like nc.

        up the hill
        airborne

      • TheOriginalDaveH

        More nonsense from NC.

        • WTS/JAY

          What else?

      • Frank Kahn

        OK, rc, lets ignore the fact that you spewed a lot of liberal lying BS in this paragraph.

        “So, one who feels passionately about a woman’s right to make decisions about her body, a workers right to meet with other workers about matters at his work place, their right to vote like they voted the last time when no election was set aside for voter “fraud” at the voting place, and how tax money is used “for the people” as well as “by the people” especially for the less fortunate which common sense tells us do exist. might just want that D on their bumper ! Since Common sense
        tells them they are not going to get those things from the Rs and Ls>.
        How is this for a bumper sticker? WE WILL RUIN THE ECONOMY FOR EVERYONE TO GET WHAT WE WANT! SIGNED: THE Rs GIMME A “D” !!!!”

        Twisting peoples view, that killing unborn babies is wrong, into some mythical idea that it is about a womans RIGHT to make decisions about her BODY, is insane. It is about the BABIES RIGHT to LIFE. You, liberals, might try to argue the fact of the baby being alive, before birth, but that is different than arguing about the right of the mother to control her body.

        And, you are also twisting the idea of using taxpayer money. It is not being used by the people, it is being used by the government. It is not for the people, it is for the people that government decides to give it to. We don’t claim that there are no “less fortunate”, we just don’t agree that the government is the right entity to administer the help.

        We are not against workers “talking to each other about workplace issues”, we object to collective bargaining, that uses force, or the threat of force, to obtain excessive benefits.

        But, all of your misinformation and liberal posturing aside, that was not the point of the question. Why put a D or R bumper sticker on your car. Since, most, if not all problems with government are fostered by both parties, it makes no sense to play the democrat vs republican game. And, the decision to vote for a person, because he/she is democrat/republican is stupid. You should vote for people that embrace the same ideology that you do, regardless of political affiliation.

        • Jack

          Frank Kahn:

          Although you have frequently posted you opposition to collective bargaining, for the first time i have seen, you have posted your reasoning – you are against the “use of force, or the threat of force, to obtain excessive benefits”.

          How do you tell when the benefits being sought are excessive?

          I have never read a post where you objected to businesses using force or the threat of force against employees. Is that because you don’t have a problem with that kind of force? Or do you believe that businesses never use or threaten the use of force against employees?

          I would like to know your reasoning because it seems to be hypocritical that you object so much to unions but are totally silent regarding businesses.

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            I think you may be hinting at crony capitalism. Here is an article showing that Hitlery is up to her neck in it.
            http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/08/14/NY-Times-Clinton-Foundation-Rife-With-Cronyism
            Speaking of unions, here in Indiana we got rid of the problem of unions. We became a right to work state. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
            You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot.
            “God rules in the armies of Heaven, and without His whole blessing, the best human councils are but foolishness.”
            John Hancock
            1st Signer of the Declaration of Independence
            Devout Christian

          • Frank Kahn

            If this is the first time you have seen my reasoning, you are not paying very close attention.

            There are different metrics for determining whether something is excessive (unreasonable). In general, collective bargaining has a major flaw in its concept. As far as I have been able to ascertain, compensation (pay and benefits) are determined for groups of employees. This eliminates the personal achievements / rewards method of compensation. Advancement should be performance based, not just increased because of job title. Next, we have the basic pay portion of compensation. This is more complex, you have to take many things into consideration. First, you have the mystical term of “living wage”, which is hard to pin down, because it is too general. As long as the Unions use the demand for a living wage, which they arbitrarily set, there is nothing reasonable about the demand. I, often, hear union advocates use the corporate profit defense for raising wages. Two problems here, 1. how does corporate profits change the size of a “living wage”? 2. What ethics are used to claim that an increase in corporate profits mandates an increase in production cost? Now, we turn to benefits, which can be a major drain on corporate resources. Health care insurance is a major point of contention in some Union contracts. There are some examples of insane health benefits being pushed by unions. I read a report about an educational union demanding that cosmetic surgery be included in the health care insurance. This would be a prime example of unreasonable and unnecessary benefits. Another major drain on the corporations, and the economy, is the lavish retirement packages. I include the economy because public unions are culpable for this one in a big way. There are many examples where union members obtain a retirement pay that exceeds the average pay for non-retired workers in the same industry. While, union members claim that this is just a result of better planning, it is not planning that did it, it was strong arm tactics of unions, which pander to the greed of its members. The idea, that some union advocates put forth, that everyone should get smart and use unions to increase their living standard is flawed economically. If, large portions of the nation, even cities and states, are going bankrupt due to unfunded retirement obligations, how would increasing the number of people getting these benefits make it better?

            On the subject of force, I am not sure what type of force you are referring to with respect to companies. In most debates, that I have been involved in, about these issues, the union advocates use a different cause and effect logic than me. In this part of the equation, we have to step outside the union vs corporation battle and bring in the government. Sometimes it is difficult to determine which side they are on. Many policies are pro union, while others are pro corporation. If you look at the situation, it becomes obvious that taking both sides creates a definite loser. Everyone loses when the government interferes in this manner. They support the unions right to demand more benefits, and at the same time support the corporations ability to relocate their facilities to other, non union areas. So, while I see the cause of the problem as being unions greed, union advocates see it as corporate greed. Who is correct does not matter, in the end the cause is greed. Nothing will get better by advocating for the greed of one group over the greed of another.

            If you will explain what is meant by company force, and give an example, I will be more than willing to discuss your point. I am not a hypocrite, I just don’t know what it is you mean.

          • Jack

            Frank Kahn::

            Thank you for your explanation. I don’t agree with you but at least I better understand your thinking.

            Force on the part of a company can vary – the threat of being fired, actually being fired, demotion, closing a plant, black listing, or some of the older tactics like bringing in goons to beat up and even kill workers

            You seem to operate on the belief that the only way that people should get ahead is based on their own merit and achievements. That might be nice in a perfect world but its pure fantasy in real life. Many people get to the top because of their connections or because they are very good at being liars, cheats and thieves, with no moral scruples.

            Just think of the number of times you have read about some body becoming the head of.a company, they run it into the ground and when they leave the Board of Directors pays them millions of dollars.. The last one i recall walked off with a pension paying him over several million dollars a year – I think his whole package was worth almost 200 million dollars..

            I don’t understand why it is wrong for average people to try to look after themselves and get the most they can, while its okay for the upper management types to do it?

            Just look back to the 1950s and 1960s. Most families had a father who worked and a mother who took care of the home and the family – most families were supported by one worker. The top tax rates on the one percenters were about 90% and then 70%. The average CEO made around 300% more than a company’s regular employees. There was no free trade and companies were American companies. As employee productivity and a company’s income went up so did the earnings of its regular employees – the income was shared.

            Now after over 30 years of conservative economic policies like deregulation, Reaganomics, decreased taxes for the upper income people, free trade, ship the jobs overseas, and anti unionism what do we have? We have had the largest shift in wealth that the world has ever seen. That wealth has shifted from the people on lower income levels to the people on upper levels..

            The 400 richest families now have assets that exceed the assets of over 150 million people; overall the middle class has declining incomes while CEOs now make 3,000 times what the average employee makes. The days of a single earner being able to suport a family are for the most part long gone. What do we now have? Whatever it is it sure isn’t better for the majority of people in this country than what we had in the 50s and 60s.

          • Frank Kahn

            You may not agree with me, but you proved some of my points.

            “Force on the part of a company can vary – the threat of being fired, actually being fired, demotion, closing a plant, black listing, or some of the older tactics like bringing in goons to beat up and even kill workers”

            Most of your items are not force or even threats in the same sense of my statements. If an employee is incompetent or disruptive, then they should be either demoted or fired. That is how business should work. Without the unions unfair practices, an employee has the same recourse. If they feel the company is unfair they can threaten to quit, quit or even boycott the company. This would be equal considerations. Closing a plant, because of economic pressure is not a tool of force. No competent business would close a plant just to get even with employees. Black listing can take many forms, and it is still used today The older tactics you mentioned are illegal.

            “You seem to operate on the belief that the only way that people should get ahead is based on their own merit and achievements. That might be nice in a perfect world but its pure fantasy in real life. ”

            It is not pure fantasy, it SHOULD work that way. The fact that it doesn’t is usually the result of greedy practices by either the company or the unions.

            “Many people get to the top because of their connections or because they are very good at being liars, cheats and thieves, with no moral scruples.”

            It is a definite fact that who you know goes a long way in promotions. But, it is just opinion that it is because of their ability to lie, cheat and steal. I doubt that all of the top management is a bunch of criminals.

            “Just think of the number of times you have read about some body becoming the head of.a company, they run it into the ground and when they leave the Board of Directors pays them millions of dollars.. ”

            This is often the result of a termination parachute clause in their employment contract. If the corporations were smart they would stop including such things in them.

            “The last one i recall walked off with a pension paying him over several million dollars a year – I think his whole package was worth almost 200 million dollars..”

            And union employees walk away with extremely high retirement packages that pay them millions during their retirements.

            “I don’t understand why it is wrong for average people to try to look after themselves and get the most they can, while its okay for the upper management types to do it?”

            Who said it was? I said that you can’t take the side of one greedy group over the greed of another. You certainly can’t believe that doubling down by caving to the greed of both sides will help.

            “Just look back to the 1950s and 1960s. Most families had a father who worked and a mother who took care of the home and the family – most families were supported by one worker. ”

            Yes, look at how the runaway inflation, caused by union and corporate greed has ruined the ability for a single income household to survive.

            “The top tax rates on the one percenters were about 90% and then 70%. ”

            You need a lesson in tax revenue. Taxing the top 1% has never improved the economy. There are many examples that prove that drastic increases in the tax rate percentage has a zero or negative effect on revenue.

            “The average CEO made around 300% more than a company’s regular employees. There was no free trade and companies were American companies. ”

            Two separate ideas here but I will just address the second. I mentioned government policies favoring corporations, free trade is one such policy.

            “As employee productivity and a company’s income went up so did the earnings of its regular employees –
            the income was shared.”

            Here you are supporting my premise about personal achievement being the source of advancement. You said that when EMPLOYEE PRODUCTIVITY went up… so did the earnings of the regular employees. This is as it should be. The more they produce, the more they are worth.

            “Now after over 30 years of conservative economic policies like deregulation, ”

            Please refrain from liberal propaganda points. It is not “CONSERVATIVE” economic policies, both are involved in all policies. Deregulation is a misnomer. Reduced regulations is a good thing, total deregulation is not. If you reduce the amount of costly burdensome regulations then you are increasing the profitability of the companies.

            “Reaganomics, ”

            Worked very well for the economy.

            “decreased taxes for the upper income people, ”

            Also worked quite well.

            “free trade, ship the jobs overseas, ”

            These are actually the same thing. Both are bad for our job market, however they are helping to keep the cost of living lower.

            “and anti unionism what do we have? ”

            The movement to reduce, and / or eliminate unions is a good long term idea. It will ultimately reduce the cost of unfunded retirement packages that are killing the economy.

            “We have had the largest shift in wealth that the world has ever seen. ”

            You might want to rethink the reasoning for this shift. The quantitative easing, currently going on, is responsible for massive redistribution of wealth in this country.

            “That wealth has shifted from the people on lower income levels to the people on upper levels..

            The 400 richest families now have assets that exceed the assets of over 150 million people; overall the middle class has declining incomes while CEOs now make 3,000 times what the average employee makes. The days of a single earner being able to suport a family are for the most part long gone. What do we now have? Whatever it is it sure isn’t better for the majority of people in this country than what we had in the 50s and 60s.”

            In the 90’s I was making over 1000% more than the average wage in the company I worked for. I was not management, I was just in a high paying technical field. My personal efforts in education and experience earned me this position of higher pay, and the others below me did not deserve it. They did not deserve my level of pay because they had not attained my level of achievement yet. If they work hard and strive to learn more then they too can have a better life style. There is nothing wrong with that system.

          • Frank Kahn

            You may not agree with me, but you proved some of my points.

            “Force on the part of a company can vary – the threat of being fired, actually being fired, demotion, closing a plant, black listing, or some of the older tactics like bringing in goons to beat up and even kill workers”

            Most of your items are not force or even threats in the same sense of my statements. If an employee is incompetent or disruptive, then they should be either demoted or fired. That is how business should work. Without the unions unfair practices, an employee has the same recourse. If they feel the company is unfair they can threaten to quit, quit or even boycott the company. This would be equal considerations. Closing a plant, because of economic pressure is not a tool of force. No competent business would close a plant just to get even with employees. Black listing can take many forms, and it is still used today The older tactics you mentioned are illegal.

            “You seem to operate on the belief that the only way that people should get ahead is based on their own merit and achievements. That might be nice in a perfect world but its pure fantasy in real life. ”

            It is not pure fantasy, it SHOULD work that way. The fact that it doesn’t is usually the result of greedy practices by either the company or the unions.

            “Many people get to the top because of their connections or because they are very good at being liars, cheats and thieves, with no moral scruples.”

            It is a definite fact that who you know goes a long way in promotions. But, it is just opinion that it is because of their ability to lie, cheat and steal. I doubt that all of the top management is a bunch of criminals.

            “Just think of the number of times you have read about some body becoming the head of.a company, they run it into the ground and when they leave the Board of Directors pays them millions of dollars.. ”

            This is often the result of a termination parachute clause in their employment contract. If the corporations were smart they would stop including such things in them.

            “The last one i recall walked off with a pension paying him over several million dollars a year – I think his whole package was worth almost 200 million dollars..”

            And union employees walk away with extremely high retirement packages that pay them millions during their retirements.

            “I don’t understand why it is wrong for average people to try to look after themselves and get the most they can, while its okay for the upper management types to do it?”

            Who said it was? I said that you can’t take the side of one greedy group over the greed of another. You certainly can’t believe that doubling down by caving to the greed of both sides will help.

            “Just look back to the 1950s and 1960s. Most families had a father who worked and a mother who took care of the home and the family – most families were supported by one worker. ”

            Yes, look at how the runaway inflation, caused by union and corporate greed has ruined the ability for a single income household to survive.

            “The top tax rates on the one percenters were about 90% and then 70%. ”

            You need a lesson in tax revenue. Taxing the top 1% has never improved the economy. There are many examples that prove that drastic increases in the tax rate percentage has a zero or negative effect on revenue.

            “The average CEO made around 300% more than a company’s regular employees. There was no free trade and companies were American companies. ”

            Two separate ideas here but I will just address the second. I mentioned government policies favoring corporations, free trade is one such policy.

            “As employee productivity and a company’s income went up so did the earnings of its regular employees –
            the income was shared.”

            Here you are supporting my premise about personal achievement being the source of advancement. You said that when EMPLOYEE PRODUCTIVITY went up… so did the earnings of the regular employees. This is as it should be. The more they produce, the more they are worth.

            “Now after over 30 years of conservative economic policies like deregulation, ”

            Please refrain from liberal propaganda points. It is not “CONSERVATIVE” economic policies, both are involved in all policies. Deregulation is a misnomer. Reduced regulations is a good thing, total deregulation is not. If you reduce the amount of costly burdensome regulations then you are increasing the profitability of the companies.

            “Reaganomics, ”

            Worked very well for the economy.

            “decreased taxes for the upper income people, ”

            Also worked quite well.

            “free trade, ship the jobs overseas, ”

            These are actually the same thing. Both are bad for our job market, however they are helping to keep the cost of living lower.

            “and anti unionism what do we have? ”

            The movement to reduce, and / or eliminate unions is a good long term idea. It will ultimately reduce the cost of unfunded retirement packages that are killing the economy.

            “We have had the largest shift in wealth that the world has ever seen. ”

            You might want to rethink the reasoning for this shift. The quantitative easing, currently going on, is responsible for massive redistribution of wealth in this country.

            “That wealth has shifted from the people on lower income levels to the people on upper levels..

            The 400 richest families now have assets that exceed the assets of over 150 million people; overall the middle class has declining incomes while CEOs now make 3,000 times what the average employee makes. The days of a single earner being able to suport a family are for the most part long gone. What do we now have? Whatever it is it sure isn’t better for the majority of people in this country than what we had in the 50s and 60s.”

            In the 90’s I was making over 1000% more than the average wage in the company I worked for. I was not management, I was just in a high paying technical field. My personal efforts in education and experience earned me this position of higher pay, and the others below me did not deserve it. They did not deserve my level of pay because they had not attained my level of achievement yet. If they work hard and strive to learn more then they too can have a better life style. There is nothing wrong with that system.

          • Jack

            Frank Kahn

            SORRY FOR THE DELAY IN GETTING BACK TO YOU.

            I STILL CAN’T SEE HOW UNIONS HAVE HARMED YOU OR WHY YOU HAVE SUCH A HATRED FOR
            THEM. UNIONS ARE LIKE EVERYTHING ELSE, THEY HAVE GOOD POINTS AS WELL AS BAD,.
            ___________________________________________

            You may not agree with me, but you proved some of my points.

            “Force on the part of a company can vary – the threat of being fired, actually being fired, demotion, closing a plant, black listing, or some of the older tactics
            like bringing in goons to beat up and even kill workers”

            Most of your items are not force or even threats in the same sense of my statements.If an employee is incompetent or disruptive, then they should be either demoted or fired. That is how business should
            work. I AGREE. Without the unions unfair practices, an employee has the same recourse. WHAT UNFAIR PRACTICES? THERE IS NOTHING UNFAIR ABOUT A BUSINESS AGREEING TO A SYSTEM UNDER WHICH EMPLOYEES ARE TO BE DISAPLINED OR FIRED. If they feel the company is unfair they can threaten to quit, quit or even boycott the company. NOT IF YOU HAVE A FAMILY TO PROVIDE FOR AND JOBS ARE NOT READILY AVAILABLE. This would be equal considerations. Closing a plant, because of
            economic pressure is not a tool of force. No competent business would close a plant just to get even with employees. BUT THEY HAVE AND THEY DO. Black listing can take many forms and it is still used today the older tactics you mentioned are illegal. THEY WERE ILLEGAL WHEN THEY WERE DONE IN THE PAST. THAT DID NOT STOP THEM FROM HAPPENING.

            “You seem to operate on the belief that the only way that people should get ahead is based on their own merit and achievements. That might be nice in a perfect
            world but its pure fantasy in real life. ”

            It is not pure fantasy, it SHOULD work that way. The fact that it doesn’t is usually the result of greedy practices by either the company or the unions.
            SINCE UNIONS DON’T HIRE OR PROMOTE A COMPANY’S EMPLOYEES – THAT IS ALL ON THE
            COMPANIES.

            “Many people get to the top because of their connections or because they are very
            good at being liars, cheats and thieves, with no moral scruples.”

            It is a definite fact that who you know goes a long way in promotions. But, it is just opinion that it is because of their ability to lie, cheat and steal. ARE YOU SAYING THAT IN YOUR CAREER YOU HAVEN’T SEEN MANY PEOPLE LIE, CHEAT AND STEAL (IDEAS, CREDIT FOR SOMETHING, ETC.) TO GET AHEAD? I doubt that all of the top management is a
            bunch of criminals. I NEVER SAID ANYTHING ABOUT “ALL”. UNFORTUNATELY, IT’S ALL TOO MANY.

            Just think of the number of times you have read about somebody becoming the head of a company, they run it into the ground and when they leave the Board of Directors pays them millions of dollars.”

            This is often the result of a termination parachute clause in their employment contract. If the corporations were smart they would stop including such things
            in them. I AGREE BUT SINCE MOST BOARDS OF DIRECTORS FOR LARGE CORPORATIONS ARE
            MADE UP OF PEOPLE WHO WANT AN EASY WAY TO MAKE A BIG HUNK OF MONEY OR THEY HEAD
            UP SOMEOTHER CORPORATION. THEY AGREE TO RIDICULOUS THINGS IN HOPES THEY CAN
            STAY BEING A DIRECTOR OR SO THEY CAN USE THE POLICY TO GET THE SAME OR SIMILAR THING FROM THE COMPANY THEY WORK FOR.

            “The last one i recall walked off with a pension paying him over several million dollars a year – I think his whole package was worth almost 200 million dollars.”

            And union employees walk away with extremely high retirement packages that pay them millions during their retirements. IF YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT THE LEADERS OF THE UNIONS, I AM SURE THAT SOME OF THEM DO GET LARGE RETIREMENT PACKAGES BUT NOTHING LIKE WHAT LEADERS OF COMPANIES GET. IF YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT THE AVERAGE UNION EMPLOYEE OR COMPANY EMPLOYEES THAT HAPPEN TO BELONG TO A UNION, THEY DO NOT GET LARGE RETIREMENT PACKAGES. IF A PERSON GETS A $50,000.00 A YEAR PENSION, IT TAKES 20 YEARS TO REACH A MILLION DOLLARS. MOST PEOPLE DON’T GET $50,000.00 A YEAR AND MOST PEOPLE DON’T LIVE 20 YEARS AFTER THEY RETIRE.

            “I don’t understand why it is wrong for average people to try to look after themselves and get the most they can, while its okay for the upper management types to do it?”

            Who said it was? I said that you can’t take the side of one greedy group over the greed of another. You certainly can’t believe that doubling down by caving to
            the greed of both sides will help. ONE GROUP TRYING TO GET A LITTLE BETTER DEAL FOR WORKING STIFF’S IS NOT EVEN COMPARABLE TO THE OTHER GROUP, ESPECIALLY WHEN THE EMPOLYEES WHO BELONG TO THE FIRST GROUP IS SUCH A SMALL PART OF THE TOTAL NUMBER OF EMPLOYEES.

            “Just look back to the 1950s and 1960s. Most families had a father who worked and a mother who took care of the home and the family – most families were supported by one worker. ”

            Yes, look at how the runaway inflation, caused by union and corporate greed has ruined the ability for a single income household to survive. WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME THE U.S. HAD RUNAWAY INFLATION? EXACTLY WHEN HAVE UNION’s CAUSED RUNAWAY 0INFLATION?

            “The top tax rates on the one percenters were about 90% and then 70%.”

            You need a lesson in tax revenue. Taxing the top 1% has never improved the economy I BEG TO DIFFER, THE 1950’s AND EARLY 1960”s DISPROVE YOUR ASSERTION. HIGH TAXES ENCOURAGED MONEY TO BE LEFT, REINVESTED, IN BUSINESSES INSTEAD OF BEING TAKEN OUT AS INCOME. There are many examples that prove that drastic increases in the tax rate percentage has a zero or negative effect on revenue. IF YOU KNOW OF ANY THAT DON’T COME FROM MISES OR OTHER ‘CONSERVATIVE’ THINK TANKS, I WOULD LIKE TO READ THEM.

            “The average CEO made around 300% more than a company’s regular employees. There was no free trade and companies were American companies.”

            Two separate ideas here but I will just address the second. I mentioned government policies favoring corporations, free trade is one such policy.

            “As employee productivity and a company’s income went up so did the earnings of its regular employees –
            the income was shared.”

            Here you are supporting my premise about personal achievement being the source of advancement. You said that when EMPLOYEE PRODUCTIVITY went up… so did the earnings of the regular employees. This is as it should be. The more they produce, the more they are worth. THE PROBLEM IS THAT SINCE THE 1980”s INCOMES FOR AVERAGE WORKERS HAS NOT EVEN REMOTELY KEPT PACE WITH THE INCREASE IN PRODUCTIVITY.

            “Now after over 30 years of conservative economic policies like deregulation,”

            Please refrain from liberal propaganda points. It is not “CONSERVATIVE” economic policies, both are involved in all policies. IF YOU ARE SAYING THAT A
            MINORITY OF DEMOCRATS ALSO SUPPORTED THINGS SUCH AS NAFTA, FREE TRADE AND
            DEREGULATION YOU ARE CORRECT. THAT DOESN’T CHANGE THE FACT THAT THEY ARE
            CONSERVATIVE POLICIES. Deregulation is a misnomer. Reduced regulations is a good thing, total deregulation is not. If you reduce the amount of costly
            burdensome regulations then you are increasing the profitability of the companies. THE PROBLEM IS THE DISCUSSION FROM THE RIGHT SEEMS TO ASSUME THAT EVERY REGUALTION IS COSTLY, BURDENSOME AND THEREFORE SOULD BE ELIMINATED.

            “Reaganomics,”

            Worked very well for the economy. NOT REALLY. MASSIVE DEFICIT SPENDING ALONG WITH A
            HUDGE INCREASE IN GOVERNMENT EMPLOYMENT HELPED IMPROVE THE ECONOMY UNTIL REAGAN’S POLICIES LED TO THE SAVINGS & LOAN FIASCAL ALONG WITH MASSIVE FAILURES OF REAL ESTATE LIMITED PARTNERSHIPS, AND LUXARY BOAT, AIRPLANE, ETC. BUSINESSES.

            “decreased taxes for the upper income people,”

            Also worked quite well. IT WORKED WELL IN SHIFTING THE INCOME AND WEALTH OF THIS
            NATION TO THE WELL OFF. THIS HURTS THE ECONOMY BECAUSE IT IS BASED UPON PEOPLE
            SPENDING MONEY. THE LESS AVERAGE PEOPLE HAVE, THE LESS THAT IS SPENT.

            “free trade, ship the jobs overseas,”

            These are actually the same thing. Both are bad for our job market, however they are helping to keep the cost of living lower. NOT REALLY. MOST THINGS THAT USED TO BE MADE IN THE U.S. AREN’T SOLD HERE FOR LESS. THE COMPANIES ARE JUST MAKING HIGHER PROFITS.

            “and anti unionism what do we have?”

            The movement to reduce, and / or eliminate unions is a good long term idea. It will ultimately reduce the cost of unfunded retirement packages that are killing the
            economy. UNFUNDED RETIREMENT PACKAGES ARE NOT KILLING THE ECONOMY. REDUCING OR
            ELIMINATING UNIONS IS NOT A GOOD THING AND IT WOULD HAVE A NEGLIGIBLE IMPACT ON
            RETIREMENT PACKAGES.

            I HEAR ABOUT PUBLIC SECTOR RETIREMENT FUNDS BUT OUTSIDE OF A BANKRUPT AIRLINE AND THE AUTO INDUSTRY I DON’T HEAR ANYTHING ABOUT RETIRMENT BENEFITS BECAUSE FOR THE MOST PART THERE ARE NO PRIVATE SECTOR RETIREMENT FUNDS – JUST 401k’s AND THE LIKE. A GREAT DEAL OF THE PROBLEM WITH UNDERFUNDED PUBLIC RETIREMENT FUNDS IS THAT FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS IN THE LATE 1990”s THROUGH THE MID 2000”s GOVERNMENTS DID NOT MAKE THE CONTRIBUTIONS TO THE PLANS THAT THEY SHOULD HAVE MADE.

            REDUCTION OR ELIMINATION OF UNIONS ARE THE GOALS OF REPUBLICAN POLOTICIANS AND BUSINESSES. BUSINESSES WANT THIS BECAUSE THEY WILL BE ABLE TO PAY PEOPLE LESS AND THEY WILL BE FREER TO DO WHATEVER THEY LIKE TO THEIR EMPLOYEES. REPUBLICAN POLOTICIANS WANT THIS BECAUSE IT REDUCES MONEY AND HELP FOR DEMOCRATIC POLOTICIANS, THEREBY HELPING REPUBLICANS TO GET ELECTED.

            “We have had the largest shift in wealth that the world has ever seen.”

            You might want to rethink the reasoning for this shift. The quantitative easing, currently going on, is responsible for massive redistribution of wealth in this
            country. I WOULD URGE YOU TO GIVE THIS MORE TIME AND THOUGHT. QUANTITATIVE EASING IS NOT REDISTRIBUTING WEALTH FROM THE POOR AND MIDDLE CLASS TO THOSE IN THE UPPER CLASSES.

            “That wealth has shifted from the people on lower income levels to the people on upper levels.”

            The 400 richest families now have assets that exceed the assets of over 150 million people; overall the middle class has declining incomes while CEOs now make
            3,000 times what the average employee makes. The days of a single earner being able to suport a family are for the most part long gone. What do we now have?
            Whatever it is it sure isn’t better for the majority of people in this country than what we had in the 50s and 60s.”

            In the 90’s I was making over 1000% more than the average wage in the company I worked for. I was not management, I was just in a high paying technical field.
            My personal efforts in education and experience earned me this position of higher pay, and the others below me did not deserve it. They did not deserve my
            level of pay because they had not attained my level of achievement yet. If they work hard and strive to learn more then they too can have a better life style.
            There is nothing wrong with that system. I AM GLAD YOU DID SO WELL IN THE 90”s, I HOPE YOU ARE STILL DOING WELL. I AM ALSO GLAD THAT YOU WERE ABLE TO GET A GOOD EDUCATION, GET JOBS THAT ALLOWED YOU TO GET THE EXPERIENCE THAT GOT YOU THE HIGHER PAID JOB. I AM ALSO GLAD THAT YOU WERE BLESSED WITH THE INTELIGENCE TO BE ABLE TO LEARN THE SKILLS YOU LEARNED.

            ONE THING THAT BOTHERS ME IS THAT YOU SEEM TO BE CONSUMED WITH THE BELIEF THAT OTHERS WERE BELOW YOU AND THEY DIDN’T DESERVE WHAT YOU HAD. HOW DID YOU GET YOUR EDUCATION? WERE YOU BLESSED TO BE BORN INTO A FAMILY THAT WAS ABLE TO PAY FOR IT; OR DID YOU PAY FOR IT IN WHOLE OR IN
            PART BY STUDENT LOANS, GOVERNMENT GRANTS, SCHOLARSHIPS; OR DID WORK AND PAY FOR IT YOURSELF?

            WHERE YOU BORN WITH THE INTELIGENCE THAT ALLOWED YOU TO GET YOUR EDUCATION OR DID YOU SOMEHOW BRING YOURELF UP FROM BEING SAY RETATED TO BEING OF ABOVE AVERAGE INTELIGENCE?

            YOU WERE BLESSED TO HAVE THE LEVEL OF INTELIGENCE THAT YOU HAVE. YOU WERE BLESSED TO HAVE BEEN BORN INTO THE FAMILY SITUATION WHICH PROVIDED THE BASIC FOUNDATION FROM WHICH YOU BLOSSOMED. YOU WERE ALSO BLESSED TO HAVE HAD THE FRIENDS AND ACQUAINTENCES THAT YOU HAVE HAD THAT HELPED YOU GET TO WHERE YOU WERE IN THE 90”s AND WHERE YOU ARE TODAY.

            DON’T FORGET THAT THE VAST MAJORITY OF PEOPLE AREN’T AS BLESSED AS YOU HAVE BEEN
            BLESSED. THEY AREN’T ENTITLED TO BE RICH. THEY ARE NOT ENTITLED TO BE HIGHLY
            PAID. THEY ARE ENTITLED TO HAVE THE RIGHT TO TRY TO BETTER THEIR LIVES BY WORKING WITH OTHERS TO GET A BETTER DEAL.

            FOR MYSELF, I WAS BORN INTO A POOR FAMILY THAT COULD BARELY PROVIDE MY SIBLINGS AND
            ME WITH THE NECISITIES OF LIFE. I WAS BLESSED WITH ABOVE AVERAGE INTELIGENCE, A
            LOVING FAMILY AND ATHLETIC ABILITY. ATHLETIC SCHOLARSHIPS PAID FOR MY UNDERGRADUATE EDUCATION. STUDENT LOANS AND MY EARNINGS PAID FOR MY POST GRADUATE EDUCATION.

            BE THANKFUL FOR WHAT YOU HAVE. DON’T BEGRUDGE OTHERS FOR GETTING A SMALL PIECE OF THE PIE.

          • Frank Kahn

            I DONT HAVE TIME TO GO THROUGH EVERY ONE OF YOUR IGNORANT LIBERAL POINTS. YOU ARE WRONG ON ALL OF THEM.

            UNIONS HAVE CAUSED MASSIVE INFLATION. UNIONS ARE THE CAUSE OF MANY BANKRUPT SYSTEMS. UNIONS ARE GREEDY AND WORTHLESS, JUST AS YOU ARE.

            I WAS BLESSED WITH GOOD INTELLIGENCE, SO FN WHAT? DOES YOUR STUPID LIBERAL BS THINK THEY CAN RAIS A MORON TO A GENIUS BY PAYING THEM 50K A YEAR?

            I WORKED FOR MY EDUCATION, NO HAND OUTS LIKE THE LIBERAL SERFS THAT ARE TOO LAZY TO EARN THEIR POSITION IN LIFE.

            YOU NEED TO CHECK THE IMPETUS OF THE POLICIES YOU KEEP BLAMING ON CONSERVATIVES, MANY OF THEM WERE DESIGNED AND PUSHED BY DEMOCRATS.

            ALL OF THE LIBERAL POLICIES, IN PLACE TODAY ARE DESTROYING THE ECONOMY. OBAMA BAILED OUT THE UNIONS AT GM NOT GM. THE CITIZENS OF THIS COUNTRY DONT OWE YOU FOUL UNION THUGS A RETIREMENT, PAY FOR IT YOURSELF. GET ON SS LIKE THE POOR PEOPLE USE.

            I HAVE OVER 20MILLION IN SAVINGS IN AN OFFSHORE BANK ACCOUNT. I AM DOING JUST FINE THANK YOU.

          • Jack

            Frank Kahn:
            What a shame. I thought I might have finally found a right wing person on PLD that I could have an intelligent discussion with, an intelligent exchange of differing viewpoints instead of getting response after response of nothing but emotional diatribes that were devoid of both fact and truth.

            Boy was I ever wrong about you. Your post clearly shows that you are an extremely angry man; an extremely bigoted man; a man looking for scapegoats to blame for all the imaginary wrongs that they think have been inflected upon them.
            Your irrational hatred of unions is no different than the irrational hatred of many southerners against blacks or many whites against Hispanics.

            Since you were making 1,000 times the average person’s pay in the 1990’s and you now have $20 million stashed overseas (by the way did you report that money to the IRS as the law requires?), how in the heck could unions have done anything to adversely affect you? The fact is they couldn’t have unless you are lying about your background.

            In reality, you seem to be just another rightie who lies about their achievements to make themselves appear to be bigger and better than what they really are.
            You and Force are almost twins.

            Admit the truth, you are just a bitter little man who hates people whom you think have done better than you have. How else can someone who claims they were making $100’s of thousands of dollars a year and have $20 million stashed overseas have such hatred for people whom for the most part were making $50 thousand or less a year and maybe have a few thousand in the bank?.
            When you claim that deregulation, NAFTA, free trade, ship jobs overseas, etc. were originally designed and pushed by Democrats you prove that you have no clue as to what has been going on since the late 1960’s. It is true that some Democrats bought into some of these “conservative” policies (Carter – some deregulation; Clinton – Nafta, free trade, and some deregulation), that did not make them Democratic polices as most elected
            Democrats opposed them. These destructive policies are and always will be the bedrock of Republican/conservative economics.
            Wallow with your fellow righties in your delusional thinking, loathing, hatred and self pity. You people deserve each other and everything that Republicanconservative policies have and will continue to bring up this great nation.

          • Frank Kahn

            I AM NEITHER ANGRY NOR BIGOTED, I JUST WILL NOT DISCUSS ANYTHING WITH A PREJUDICED MORON THAT THINKS ANYTHING FROM A CONSERVATIVE HAS TO BE WRONG. IF YOU DISMISS ALL INTELLIGENT INFORMATION FROM CONSERVATIVES YOU ARE A WORTHLESS PIECE OF HORSE CRAP SO THERE IS NOTHING TO DISCUSS.

            ACTUALLY IT IS THE LIBERAL LEFT THAT HAS DESTROYED EVERYTHING IN MODERN SOCIETY. UNIONS ARE NOT THE SAME AS BLACKS. BLACKS HAVE NO SAY IN THEIR GENETICS, UNIONS ARE EVIL BY DESIGN.

            I NEVER SAID THAT UNIONS DID ANYTHING TO ME PERSONALLY, I SAID THEY RUINED THE ECONOMY CAUSING UNNECESSARY INFLATION.

          • Jack

            Frank Kahn:

            You need help. Please bring yourself back to the real world. Stop projecting your own fears, hatred and bigotry onto others.

            I never said that everything a conservative says has to be wrong. In fact I said I agreed with you on somethings. The problem is that so much of what you righties post on PLD is factually incorrect and many times, out right lies.

            I am only interested in the truth. Tell it and I will agree with you. Say something that is factually incorrect and I will point it out. Go off on a bigoted rant devoid of facts and I will point out your senseless bigotry.

            You can say it all you want, but the fact is that your hatred of unions is senseless, irrational, not supported by facts and is bigoted.

            Goldwater and Buckley are prime examples of what conservatism used to be. Today’s conservatives are so far to the right of where those gentlemen were that most of today’s conservatives would consider those gentlemen to be liberals/progressives.

            Since inflation has been low for over some 30 years now, where do you get the idea that the economy has been ruined by high inflation?

            The liberal left hasn’t destroyed anything in modern society? Conservative economic policies of deregulation, free trade, etc. also have not destroyed
            anything in modern society. Despite that fact, conservative economic policies have caused a lot of damage to middle and lower class (economically) people.

          • Frank Kahn

            I DONT NEED NO DAMN HELP. I TOOK YOUR STUPID STATEMENT AT FACE VALUE TO INDICATE THAT YOU ARE AN INSUFFERABLE LIBERAL PIG. YOU SAID YOU WANTED ME TO GIVE FACTS TO SUPPORT IT BUT NOT ANYTHING FROM CONSERVATIVES. THAT IS DISMISSING DATA JUST BECAUSE YOU ARE AN IGNORANT LIBERAL.

            “You need help. Please bring yourself back to the real world. Stop projecting your own fears, hatred and bigotry onto others.”

            I AM IN THE REAL WORLD, IT IS YOU WHO EXISTS IN LIBERAL FANTASY LAND

            “I never said that everything a conservative says has to be wrong. ”

            YOU SAID I WAS OBVIOUSLY WRONG BECAUSE I AGREE WITH CONSERVATIVE THINK TANK IDEAS. I DONT EVEN KNOW WHAT A CONSERVATIVE THINK TANK IS SUPPOSED TO BE. I HAVE MY OWN KNOWLEDGE AND EXPERIENCES. I THINK FOR MYSELF

            “In fact I said I agreed with you on somethings. The problem is that so much of what you righties post on PLD is factually incorrect ”

            MORE LIBERAL BS BIAS, IT IS WHAT YOU IGNORANT LEFTIST LIBERALS SAY THAT IS FACTUALLY INSANE

            “and many times, out right lies.”

            NOTHING BUT LIES EVER COMES OUT OF LIBERALS, OBAMA IS A PRIME EXAMPLE

            “I am only interested in the truth. ”

            I HAVE TOLD YOU THE TRUTH, IF YOU HAD A BRAIN YOU WOULD SEE IT FOR YOURSELF

            “Tell it and I will agree with you.Say something that is factually incorrect and I will point it out. ”

            NOPE, YOU ARE A LIBERAL MORON, YOU HAVE NO SENSE OF REALITY.

            “Go off on a bigoted rant devoid of facts and I will point out your senseless bigotry. ”

            EVERYTHING YOU SAY IS BIGOTED, LIBERAL BIASED BIGOTRY.

            “You can say it all you want, but the fact is that your hatred of unions is senseless, irrational, not supported by facts and is bigoted.”

            UNIONS ARE TOTALLY WORTHLESS MONEY PITS, THEY SUCK THE LIFE OUT OF THE MARKET. THEY CAUSE INFLATION AS A MATTER OF PRINCIPLE AND ONLY LIBERAL IDIOTS CANT SEE IT.

            “Goldwater and Buckley are prime examples of what conservatism used to be. ”

            WHO GIVES A FLYING FCK WHO THEY WERE, CONSERVATISM IS NOT THE ISSUE HERE IT IS THE LEFTIST LIBERAL TYRANNICAL CRAP BEING FORCED ON THE WORLD BY YOUR TYPE OF IDIOT.

            “Today’s conservatives are so far to the right of where those gentlemen were that most of today’s conservatives would consider those gentlemen to be liberals/progressives.”

            AND SO THEY MIGHT WELL BE, THAT IS NOT THE POINT, AND PROGRESSIVE IS A LIBERAL LIE. LIBERALS ARE NOT PROGRESSIVE, THEY ARE REGRESSIVE. THE WANT TO FORCE US ALL BACK TO CAVE DWELLING BARBARIC MURDERING HEATHENS.

            “Since inflation has been low for over some 30 years now, where do you get the idea that the economy has been ruined by high inflation?”

            ANOTHER LIBERAL LIE, INFLATION HAS BEEN EXTREMELY HIGH FOR THE LAST 5 YEARS, ONLY COOKING THE BOOKS AND CHANGING THE RULES HAS MADE IT LOOK DIFFERENT.

            “The liberal left hasn’t destroyed anything in modern society? ”

            LET ME SEE, KILLING BABIES IS OKAY
            SHOVING IT UP YOUR BROTHERS BUTT IS OKAY
            CHRISTIANS ARE EXTREMISTS
            MUSLIMS ARE WONDERFUL PEOPLE
            UNIONS ARE GOOD FOR THE ECONOMY
            CAPITALISM IS BAD
            GOVERNMENT CAN CONTINUE TO SPEND LIKE A DRUNKEN SAILOR, JUST TAKE EVERYONES MONEY TO PAY FOR IT
            TRAVON WAS MURDERED BECAUSE A BLACK MAN HAS THE RIGHT TO ASSAULT WHITE PEOPLE WITHOUT FEAR OF RETALIATION.
            WHITE PEOPLE ARE ALL RACIST
            BLACKS DESERVE ANYTHING AND EVERYTHING THEY CAN TAKE FROM WHITE PEOPLE
            BLACKS DESERVE TO ATTEND THE BEST COLLEGES BECAUSE THEY ARE BLACK
            YOU HAVE TO HIRE THEM BECAUSE THEY ARE BLACK
            YOU CANT DISCRIMINATE AGAINST QUEERS, IT MIGHT HURT THEIR FEELINGS

            ALL OF THIS HAS DESTROYED THE MORAL FIBER OF THIS COUNTRY. THAT IS WHY YOUNG BLACK ME HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH JUST KILLING A WHITE MAN BECAUSE THEY WERE BORED. BLACK MEN HAVE SEX WITH THEIR BLACK SISTERS WITHOUT WORRYING ABOUT PROTECTION BECAUSE THEY CAN JUST KILL THE BABY IF SHE GETS PREGNANT. YOUNG BLACK MEN DONT TAKE CARE OF THEIR CHILDREN. THAT IS WHAT WELFARE IS FOR. IS THAT RACIST? NO THAT IS REALITY. YOUNG BLACK MEN HAVE A TERRIBLE RECORD OF HONEST MORAL BEHAVIOR. THEY COMMIT CRIMES OF HATE. THEY DONT SUPPORT TRADITIONAL FAMILY AND THEY ARE EXTREMELY RACIST.

            “Conservative economic policies of deregulation, free trade, etc. also have not destroyed
            anything in modern society. ”

            MOST OF THOSE POLICIES ARE NOT CONSERVATIVE. YOU HAVE THE LEFT VS RIGHT BLINDERS ON. IT IS BOTH SIDES THAT PUSH THAT CRAP ON US.

            “Despite that fact, conservative economic policies have caused a lot of damage to middle and lower class (economically) people”

            AND OBAMAS POLICIES HAVE JUST DONE WONDERS, RIGHT? THE MIDDLE CLASS HAS BEEN SLIDING DOWN A BLACK HOLE FOR THE LAST 5 YEARS. ALL THAT QE CRAP IS ERODING THEIR NET WORTH AT AN ALARMING RATE. OBAMA HAS DESTROYED THE ABILITY FOR NEW JOBS CREATION WITH HIS PUSHING MASSIVE RESTRICTIVE REGULATIONS AND HIS Patient Ripoff Non-affordable Health Care Insurance Act.

            Bigoted? No, fed up with the stupidity of liberal idiots making the world a rotten place for the poor and middle class.

            IF YOU ARE NOT RICH AND IN A UNION YOU ARE JUST A PIECE OF CRAP TO LIBERALS. AND FORGET IT IF YOU ARE WHITE, THEY ALL DESERVE TO BE BEATEN OR KILLED.

  • Elton Robb

    Common sense won’t reign in this Country again until the return of Jesus Christ.

    • Vis Fac

      AMEN Brother!!!

      Freedom prospers when religion is vibrant and the rule of law under God is acknowledged. Ronald Reagan

      If we ever forget that we are One Nation Under God, then we will be a nation gone under. Ronald Reagan

      “Whatever
      we once were, we are no longer a Christian nation.” Barack Husain Obama

      Without God, democracy will not and cannot long endure.- Ronald Reagan

      The Only Thing Necessary for the Triumph of Evil is that Good Men Do Nothing–Edmund Burke

      A republic is defined as a state in which supreme power is held by the people and their elected representatives, and which has an elected or nominated president…

      Our republic no longer exists because we have an omnipotent self centered clown in the Oval office who is as unconstitutional as anyone can be. Anyone thinking we still live in a republic had best take notice of what OUR elected officials are doing WITHOUT OUR consent. Our republic no longer exists because the people
      no longer have power!

      … A democracy can be best described as two wolves and a sheep deciding what to have for lunch, while a Republic allows a well armed sheep to contest the vote!” This too shall be a fond memory for our rubber stamp liberally controlled congress is eagerly waiting to disarm us.

      Libertas inaestimabilis res est

      Semper-Fi

      • Karolyn

        Christianity is not the only religion.

        • Charlie

          Christianity IS NOT a “”religion””,,, IT IS a way of “”Life”” as God and King Jesus Christ tell you in “Their” Book Named The Holy Bible… The way to prove The Bible is to try to prove it wrong ,,, IF?,,, you have that little amount of
          “”Common Sense””… AND ,,,IF? you happen to be waiting for The Return of King Jesus Christ ,,, I got news for you ,,
          He’s waiting for His people to do what He said to do way back ,,, IF?,, you just simply do what King Jesus said at Matthew 6:33,,, you will see The Power and Presents of King Jesus Christ every day … IF?,, you are Not Praying The King’s Prayer as written at Matthew 6:9–13,,, then you are NOT online with King Jesus Christ …………
          Meanwhile… Praise King Jesus for Salvation and Healing.
          Acts 2:38 is salvation…

      • Jack

        Force:

        Based upon what you are saying, Iraq,Iran and Saudi Arabia must be among the freest places in the world because religion is surely very vibrant there, they surely acknowledge God and they practice the rule of law under God, i.e Sharia Law.

        Remember the, Jewish, Christian and Islamic faiths are sister religions that share many of the same prophets, beliefs and the same God. Jews don’t accept Christ, Christians do not accept Mohamed and Muslims accept Christ as a prophet but not as the Savior.

        One of the reasons the United States has prospered is because each person has the freedom and right to believe or not believe, worship or not worship whatever they please.

        While I acknowledge that I have no right to dictate to you, you should remember that you have no right to dictate to me or others

        • Vis Fac

          Who is dictating to you? Certainly not I for I am not a liberal who believes he has the right to dictate. I am merely quoting and voicing MY opinion as you have here.

          I addressed belief in GOD not religion, you chose to mention religion two different entities and topics entirely without knowing it you made my point

          The true reason our country has prospered and are now falling apart is the belief and reverence to God. For 213 years we flourished sans a few difficult times however the difficult times were ephemeral due to our believe and reverence to God. Only in the last few decades when progressives took over have we have seen a dramatic down turn in this country. Progressives have taken over the world spreading immorality as if it were peanut butter on toast.

          The DNC charter has now forbidden prayers at their meetings Prayers in school or other public functions have been banned Liberals want to delete “under God from the pledge of allegiance Abortions are at an all time high and you wounder why God has turned his back on us?

          God turned his back on the world because the world turned its back on him.

          I stand beside in front and behind what I said earlier and The quotes provided. I am not so much to believe I am omnipotent as so many people are. There is only one creator and to shun him is to condemn yourself.

          Enjoy while there is time for time is fleeting.

          The Only Thing Necessary for the Triumph of Evil
          is that Good Men Do Nothing–Edmund Burke

          A republic is defined as a state in which supreme power is held by the people and their elected representatives, and which has an elected or nominated president…

          Our republic no longer exists because we have an omnipotent self centered clown in the Oval office who is as unconstitutional as anyone can be. Anyone thinking
          we still live in a republic had best take notice of what OUR elected officials are doing WITHOUT OUR consent. Our republic no longer exists because the people no longer have power!

          Benjamin Franklin once said … A democracy can be best described as two wolves and a sheep deciding what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb
          contesting the vote.”

          Our Republic that allows for a well armed sheep to contest the vote!” shall soon be a fond memory for our rubber stamp liberally controlled congress is eagerly waiting to disarm us.

          Libertas inaestimabilis res est

          Semper-Fi

  • 1baronrichsnot1

    Livingston is right on! We have a “gummit” who uses global warming as a prelude to raise taxes, ficticious as it may be, it is being sold by brainwash and indoctrination to control the masses and get them to pay enormous taxation! Terrorism is being used the same way! It is a way of taxation by “not our fault” as they cover the incompetency and non productiveness of gov’t. These guys don’t understand economics, never have, they only understand control. Progressive control, with the support of msm, facism, scare tactics, and militarily. They say “We didn’t spend you folks into poverty” (200 trillion and counting both promised and on the books debt) devide that by 320 million and see what each man women and child owes! Global warming, terrorism, wars, social programs, etc. did that, “we didn’t try to police the world, heal the world, accept all illegals, bastardize the election system, bastardize religions, take money from you, to do all this and send it to the middle east, europe, pay for foriegn oil, fund incovert activities, fight in civil wars, give it to big business, etc”. No! Not us, it was you, we have to protect you, pay you, feed you, heal you, allow or not allow you to be born, make your travel safer, we have to watch you to keep you free, we need TSA, BATF, DHS, NSA, and yes, IRS snooping down your necks, in order to save you and keep you safe. Safe from yourselves, Not us!!! WAsn’t us! Just look at yourselves, you can’t think critically or even read. OOPs, gov’t did that.

    • Don 2

      I have never understood why it is “greed” to want to keep the money you’ve earned, but not greed to want to take somebody else’s money. ~ Thomas Sowell

      • Motov

        You are not allowed to use your brain in such manner!
        Oblahblah, The Rip-off artist

        • WTS/JAY

          Is it because i’m black, Motov?

          • Motov

            Race has nothing to do with this, the fact is with the Trayvon case Obozo played a card designed to keep us fighting amongst ourselves. (I don’t think you are who you claim to be).
            It’s who is pulling your strings, which I conclude has to be The top wealthiest people on this planet, and or the Bankers who run the Federal Reserve (Which I’m certain are one in the same or close buddies). In any event you are the ones past presidents attempted to warn us about. Andrew Jackson, Thomas Jefferson, and so on said you are the worst possible enemy this nation faces, because of your deceptive ways.

            You still cannot make your move yet, I’m certain a few things still need to happen, one being abolishing the second amendment, and with the fraud in the last election cycle, you may have alienated a good percentage of our military when their votes mysteriously got destroyed in an airplane crash. They may defend the us from you!

      • NC

        Don 2, maybe they didn’t want to “take” your money but that they needed to “take” your money to make America the number one nation in the world instead of the piney woods third world nation we were a couple centuries ago. You must admit that they “took” our money and OUT RAN the rest of the world TO GET WHERE WE ARE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! It wasn’t automatic that we would succeed TO SUCH A LEVEL!! AND NOT ONE PERSON STARVED TO DEATH FROM TAXATION! PITIFUL COUNTRY WITH A PITIFUL HISTORY!!!! YEAH, RIGHT!
        YOU PEOPLE WOULD BITCH IF THEY HUNG YOU WITH A NEW ROPE!!

        • Don 2

          Sure NC,
          We’re number one alright. We have the number one largest debt, and we’re on our way to becoming the number one third world nation.

          Exactly where are we NC? We have a growing population of government dependent people, we’re becoming a nation of part-time and unemployed workers, cities are going bankrupt, states may follow cities into bankruptcy, college graduates can’t find jobs, other countries couldn’t care less what the American paper tiger says, we’re printing 85 million dollars a month to keep the stock market and government benefits going while devaluing the world currency so much so that many other countries hate our guts because the cost of their food is becoming too expensive to purchase(THEY ARE STARVING), we’re using corn for ethanol instead of harvesting our own natural resources of energy, half of high school students can’t graduate, many that do have an 8th. grade reading level or worse, the Democrat war on poverty is a miserable failure, the war on drugs is a miserable failure, the economy sucks, the prison system is failing, social security is failing, the post office is failing, obamacare is failing, welfare is a failure, under Obama, the country is split worse than ever since the American Revolution……hell, NC, you might want to use that new rope on yourself.

          • NC

            DON 2, WHEN DO PLAN TO WALK AWAY FROM THIS MESS OF A COUNTRY THAT CAN’T BE FIXED?
            Why do you hang around and preach doom and failure in this gathering of weirdos who spend their time looking for century old conspiracies and false flags while YOUR world CRUMBLES around you?? Do you plan to try to help save it or just sit around and bitch? Clue: Change and salvation for our country will not be brought forth from this gathering of the 1%! It won’t be brought about by the Republican 48%!!!!!!! They had an eight year run and the numbers of the market and sustainable jobs went backward! We lost 2.6 million jobs in their last year! That was a real boost to the economy! Yeah, right! Stock market lost almost 8000 points as the repugnuts were leaving the White House! That was another real boost!
            THEY LEFT THE SECOND WORST ECONOMY IN OUR HISTORY AND THE REPUGNUTS BLAMED OBAMA FOR NOT FIXING IT ON THEIR TIME TABLE WITH NO HELP FROM THEM! 60 PLUS MILLION AMERICANS WERE NOT IN DENIAL OF THOSE FACTS! NONE OF THEM HANG OUT HERE! EXCEPT ME AND A FEW OTHERS WHO MAKE SURE YOU DON’T FORGET WHERE OUR PROBLEMS STARTED!
            I’M SITTING HERE LOOKING OUT AT THE SUNSHINE! NO FEMA CAMPS, NO TROOPS AT THE DOOR TAKING MY PROPERTY, NO FOREIGN ARMIES, A CAR WITH GAS AND SEVERAL FISHING RODS! WHY WOULD I WANT TO HANG MYSELF???
            YOU KEEP THE ROPE BECAUSE WITH YOUR PARANOIA IN ALL LIKELYHOOD TOMORROW IS GOING TO BE JUST AS DISMAL FOR YOU!

          • Don 2

            And, we lost 9 million jobs since the coronation of your “dear leader” echoed through the reverberator from heaven above.

            So, you have a fishing pole? That surely is impressive! Best be careful that you don’t snag yourself trolling while bottom-feeding.

        • WTS/JAY

          NC: You must admit that they “took” our money and OUT RAN the rest of the world TO GET WHERE WE ARE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

          Yeah, broke and in debt up to our arsses!

        • http://batman-news.com samurai

          No response possible due to lack of intellectual content by no cajones. Here is an article about the maxists in chief.
          http://www.web.archive.org/web/20081015170103/http:/www.spectator.co.uk/melaniephillips/2293196/pinch-yourself.thtml
          FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
          You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot. This leaves you out.
          “We cannot read the history of our rise and devleopment as a Nation without reckoning with the place the Bible has occupied in shaping the advances of the Republic.”

          FDR

    • Hawk!

      What a fine post and a excellent followup to Mr. Livingston’s article!

    • Bill

      Good analogy, Barron

  • johnd

    The problem with the whole scenario is that it’s not going to change. As we resist the problem seems to get worse- more laws and more police to enforce them. Maybe we should change our tactics: quit our jobs, quit paying taxes, shut down our small businesses and sign up for all the welfare we can. Voting is a joke and true conservatives are too much of a minority for a revolution to work. A huge natural disaster that brings us to our knees would bring back common sense but we can’t count on that. The only hope I see is to give them a taste of their own medicine.

    • Vis Fac

      Johnd Being apathetic will not effect change being active will. The sheer numbers of illegals swarming the nation who are not supposed to vote and do are doing so unopposed. To effect change we must be active at the local level DC is a quagmire of immorality and omnipotence and would be a waste of time addressing those issues. When we have local control the rest will soon fall in line. Local government can still say no to federal policy. For now!

      The Only Thing Necessary for the Triumph of Evil is that Good Men Do Nothing–Edmund Burke

      A republic is defined as a state in which supreme power is held by the people and their elected representatives, and which has an elected or nominated president…

      Our republic no longer exists because we have an omnipotent self centered clown in the Oval office who is as unconstitutional as anyone can be. Anyone thinking we still live in a republic had best take notice of what OUR elected officials are doing WITHOUT OUR consent. Our republic no longer exists because the people no longer have power!

      … A democracy can be best described as two wolves and a sheep deciding what to have for lunch, while a Republic allows a well armed sheep to contest the vote!” This too shall be a fond memory for our rubber stamp liberally controlled congress is eagerly waiting to disarm us.

      Libertas inaestimabilis res est

      Semper-Fi

      • johnd

        I wish you were right. I live in a small community that is generally conservative but a big part of or economy is based on federal money. To try and balance our local budget without the federal handout would be political suicide for our elected officials. Those that oppose taking the gov’t. welfare are ostracized.
        A few years back our farmers got up in arms about the gov’t curtailing the irrigation water. The feds came, our sheriff said nothing and the water that had been the farmer’s for a hundred years was restricted. So no matter how you figure it, our local levels are under the same ‘Quagmire of immorality and omnipotence’ as DC.

  • johnd

    The problem with the whole scenario is that it’s not going to change. As we resist the problem seems to get worse- more laws and more police to enforce them. Maybe we should change our tactics: quit our jobs, quit paying taxes, shut down our small businesses and sign up for all the welfare we can. Voting is a joke and true conservatives are too much of a minority for a revolution to work. A huge natural disaster that brings us to our knees would bring back common sense but we can’t count on that. The only hope I see is to give them a taste of their own medicine.

  • JimH

    Common sense(the least common of the senses) is hiding out right behind “common courtesy”.

  • JimH

    Common sense(the least common of the senses) is hiding out right behind “common courtesy”.

  • FreedomFighter

    The ultimate death blow to “common sense” is coming to public schools, by fiat, from Obama and the progressive communist cabal. An entire generation of dumbed down, poorly educated, easily manipulated Americans — your children

    Lunch Scholars.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MHtDF-z77wk

    Taken from a longer article at SHTF.com

    The New Common Core Obama Math Standard: “3 x 4 = 11″http://www.shtfplan.com/headline-news/shock-video-the-new-common-core-obama-math-standard-3-x-4-11_08182013
    Isnt it about time we all got involved in education of our children — government is certainly failing in this respect, while succeeding in creating a generation of idiot slaves, to be manipulated and controlled.
    Laus DeoSemper FI

    • Vis Fac

      FF I’ve been saying this very same thing for years only to be called an idiot. I don’t run from challenges and one evening engaged in debate with our local school board, many members have a PhD in education. I asked why our teachers are so lethargic when teaching our children. Each board member adamatently proclaimed they have the best interests of the students in mind when they decide and implement curriculum and policy.

      I asked only one question, “why is it that our high school graduates know how to use social media text and play video games, yet cannot spell add or subtract or tell me the name of our State Capitol?” I was met with blank and empty stares.

      I then said I was hiring at my firm and when I conducted interviews that pay was commensurate with performance and that if one did not perform during the probationary period they would no longer have a position in my firm.

      I said that I believe the same standards be held within the school district you should have heard the ensuing applause. The sad thing here is we have a liberal government embracing unionized workers who have no incentive to perform. We need to start at the local level and become involved or out apathy will destroy us by default.

      The Only Thing Necessary for the Triumph of Evil is that Good Men Do Nothing–Edmund Burke

      A republic is defined as a state in which supreme power is held by the people and their elected representatives, and which has an elected or nominated president…

      Our republic no longer exists because we have an omnipotent self centered clown in the Oval office who is as unconstitutional as anyone can be. Anyone thinking we still live in a republic had best take notice of what OUR elected officials are doing WITHOUT OUR consent. Our republic no longer exists because the people no longer have power!

      … A democracy can be best described as two wolves and a sheep deciding what to have for lunch, while a Republic allows a well armed sheep to contest the vote!” This too shall be a fond memory for our rubber stamp liberally controlled congress is eagerly waiting to disarm us.

      Libertas inaestimabilis res est

      Semper-Fi

      • FreedomFighter

        Bet they love to see you at the meeting…with you 110%
        Laus Deo
        Semper FI

      • Karolyn

        Listened to a conversation this morning on NPR about our education system. One point made by one of the researchers is that some of the countries with better educated children than us use much less technology. Every kid being provided with a computer does not make them better students. A caller had been living in Shanghai and had his kid in a public school. When he came back here to NC, his kid was bored to death; and even though he is now in one of the top high schools in NC, he is way beyond the other kids. Very sad situation. I went back to school 3 years ago to a local community college, and it amazes me how these kids do not know how to spell and are so clueless about so much.

        • WTS/JAY

          “Education is what remains after one has forgotten everything he learned in school.” -Einstein

        • WTS/JAY

          “Education is what remains after one has forgotten everything he learned in school.” -Einstein

      • http://batman-news.com samurai

        Well said! Well said! Here are 2 articles that talk about what Obama bin Laden has done and what could happen in the future.
        http://www.westernjournalism.com/obama-awards-presidential-medal-of-freedom-to-a-communist/
        http://www.westernjournalism.com/obamas-biggest-scandal-about-to-hit/
        FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
        You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot.
        “The United States is founded on the principles of Christianity.”
        FDR

  • unconfused

    At last I am enlightened. I am now definitely a wacko bird! Time to celebrate! The good thing is that I still do not need to agree with these nutcases in power but at least now I have an excuse for my condition.

    • Bill

      Un,
      We are all a victim, and it is not our fault

      • Eugene Sevene

        Bill you are so wrong it is our fault but like the liberals we refuse to take the blame. We have lived so good for so long that we have become complacent and allowed the elected to do as they please instead of replacing them. We need to replace every politician that has served in Washington for more than one term and let them know that they can be FIRED. How ever I will not accuse the American people of having the common sense to realize that this needs to be done regardless of what party they vote for.
        As for me I am neither liberal nor conservative I am American and will leave the parties to others to follow. I will do my own research on political matters and come to my own conclusions listening to no ones propaganda.

        I believe in what is best for all Americans as long as we remain free and we all do our part to maintain that freedom.

  • Elevenarrows

    I’ve seen this “normalcy bias” at play with our former SC representative Bob Inglis. When I questioned him as to why he would not support a Parental Rights Amendment to counter the attempts by Boxer and others to ratify the UN Convention on the Rights of the Child (which is not about being kind to children!), his response was “Why should I worry about something that will never happen?!” I replied, “With all due respect, Sir, I don’t think many Americans ever dreamed a Senator would gain the presidency with only three months experience and most of that he voted ‘present’!” We all watched one of the least experienced politicians in this country ascend to one of the highest offices in the land.

    Thankfully, we were able to vote Bob Inglis out of office for many reasons…one of which was “normalcy bias”!

    Until each one of us realize that we can make a difference, things will continue to degenerate in this country. It IS difficult to fight against such corruption, but it is worth it for our children’s sake. I urge parents to open their minds to the idea of ending their support of government propaganda schools. Yes, there are good teachers. Yes, there are a few “good” schools. However, as long as subject matter is subject to government whims, children will only learn to be good global citizens and to march to whatever drum they are told to march to. Teaching your own children is challenging. Yes, it often means being reduced to one income. Yes, it is frustrating and constraining. No, you aren’t necessarily free to pursue your own interests. You have to sacrifice to instill as much learning as possible into your children. However, the rewards are beyond imagination.

    Don’t tell me it can’t be done. To do so is simply admitting you have priorities higher than your children so at least, own your choices. I have taught my children at home for twenty years now. My husband has been the sole provider of our family for all those years. We have 12 more years of teaching ahead of us. No, we don’t have expensive things. No, we don’t travel much. Yes, we’ve had to do without some things we would like to have, but we have gained responsible, Constitution-loving, productive fellow Americans that will stand beside us to fight for and defend this nation against enemies…foreign and domestic. Is it not worth it? I say it is.

  • billybob

    One question that has puzzeled me. Why did the Democrats vote into law a health bill to tax the entire population when they could have just as easily put together a health care system that would take care of those didn’t have insurnace? I’ve heard and read that approximaley 57 million people don’t have health insurance. So why change the entire system and throw out existing health care programs? Everyone with an IQ about 70 can see where this is going. All of the health care in the United States will become a one insurier state. The Federal Government wil be the health provider for all. Now ask yourselves one other question. What agency in this government is efficent? What about frugal? What about competent? Unless there is something that has changed in the last few minutes we can only expect more costs, more delays and more average or less than average health care. This of course has been tried in other countries. England is on it’s way to bankruptcy because of their socialized medicine. Canada will be next. Yet we have leaders who are going forwards over the waterfalls right behind them. Brilliant!!!

    • rhcrest

      Because it had nothing to do with health care and was all about control of the people

    • Bill

      Good analogy, BillyBob
      However, your comments are filled with common sense. Which is lost on the mind numbed robots whose knowledge is based upon propaganda

    • Vis Fac

      Who says the average liberal has an IQ of 70? More like 50 if you ask me. The plan they (the liberal elite) have is to keep people as ignorant as possible. Ignorance is bliss and the blissful make no waves, question authority, and are easy to control.

      The Only Thing Necessary for the Triumph of Evil is that Good Men Do
      Nothing–Edmund Burke

      A republic is defined as a state in which supreme power is held by the people and their elected representatives, and which has an elected or nominated president… Our republic no longer exists because we have an omnipotent self centered clown in the Oval office who is as unconstitutional as anyone can be.

      Anyone who still believes we still live in a republic had best take notice of what OUR elected officials are doing WITHOUT OUR consent. Our republic no longer exists because the people no longer have power!

      … A
      democracy can be best described as two wolves and a sheep deciding what to have
      for lunch, while a Republic allows a well armed sheep to contest the
      vote!” This too shall be a fond memory for our rubber stamp liberally
      controlled congress is eagerly waiting to disarm us.

      Libertas inaestimabilis res est

      Semper-Fi

      • CatGman

        Recon, I liked your post. What I would like to add is that you will hardly ever hear the word REPUBLIC used to define our form of government. The term “democracy” has been used in place fo the word “republic” for as long as I can remember. It is all part of the dumbing down of society. If you asked 100 people on the street what kind of government we had here in the US. I wonder how many correct answers you would get. Not very many I am sure. Article IV of the Constitution guarantees to every state in the union, a REPUBLICAN for of government. We are still at least, SUPPOSED to be a REPUBLIC.

        • Vis Fac

          You will not find anyone that will be able to correctly identify our national status as a republic because the liberal indoctrination camps that masquerade as public schools are too bust brainwashing out children with one dimensional idiot-ology.

          The Only Thing Necessary for the Triumph of Evil is that
          Good Men Do Nothing–Edmund Burke

          A republic is defined as a state in which supreme power is held by the people and their elected representatives, and which has an elected or nominated president…

          Our republic no longer exists because we have an omnipotent self centered clown in the Oval office who is as unconstitutional as anyone can be. Anyone thinking
          we still live in a republic had best take notice of what OUR elected officials are doing WITHOUT OUR consent. Our republic no longer exists because the people no longer have power!

          … A democracy can be best described as two wolves and a sheep deciding what to have for lunch, while a Republic allows a well armed sheep to contest the
          vote!” This too shall be a fond memory for our rubber stamp liberally controlled congress is eagerly waiting to disarm us.

          Libertas inaestimabilis res est

          Semper-Fi

          • CatGman

            Hear, hear.

        • Betta

          Exactly right, CatGman. And I take pleasure in reminding them of their error every chance I get. Any politician who does not know the difference between a republic and a democracy is not fit to hold ofice in my view.

      • Patriot_Dave

        Your IQ definition is of a ‘sheeple’…. some of which are ‘liberal’ minded, many of them think they they are ‘conservatives’ or ‘progressives’ or even ‘libertarians’…. all they really are is cannon fodder for the propagandists (far right…far left not much difference once you boil it down to the one thing they want… a mindless mass of ‘sheeples’ just smart enough to work the machinery of business but stupid enough not to make waves)…. You are MOST correct about one thing… our Republic is in trouble……

    • guest

      Having lived in England I can absolutely agree with you about bankruptcy of the National Health. It started out with good intentions and was good at first. But as everybody rushed to doctors for anything, bit by bit things were removed, e.g. dental services, opticians services, and free medecine. Opening up the gates to anyone for free led to people from all over the world having their babies, maladies treated in the UK. Unbelievably this still happens.
      It is not free as money is taken out from the pay-checks and supposedly one had to have paid something for use of these services. Later on, as immigrants came in by the millions under Labour (like the demoncraps here) they all got everything for free which was unfair to working people.
      My sister died after three months in hospital where ‘care’ if you can call it that, was minimal. An old cousin also.
      Another cousin was operated for heart problems and the muscle stitched in by mistake. She suffered agonies of pain for 18months, before they could redo and remove this bad work.
      Money has been thrown at it constantly, adding more and more administrators (TO MAKE UNEMPLOYMENT FIGURES LOOKD GOOD)–but not enough nurses (who now have degrees and feel them selves too good to really nurse!!) and/or doctors.
      There are still huge wards with 12 to 16 patients and many wards with both sexes. Even soldiers with terrible war wounds are now flung into these hospitals as the Special hospitals for them were closed.
      My brother was ill and dying of cancer but his wife and daughter kept him at home and were better than the hospital, rather than subject him to the indignities of a hospital where many times even clean sheets are not provided.
      And Berwick who was in charge of this abominable ruincare act APPROVES OF THE NATIONAL HEALTH SERVICE?????
      Of course, if you are a VIP you get special attention but not the man on the street.
      I fear this awful Obamaruincare and it somehow must be stopped!

    • Betta

      While travel nursing, I worked with nurses from Canada who were doing nurse assignments here in the states. They told me that even if you needed heart surgery you went on a list. Too bad if you need it now.
      Then there is the story of the Canadian woman who had a brain tumor. In Canada she had to wait 9 months for surgery. She told them she would be dead by then and came to the US to have her surgery. It saved her life.
      The very health care she ran from is the same thing obamacare is. Don’t get sick is all I can say.

  • Motov

    Time for me to get outside and pedalling, Bicycling really helps for those with Parkinson’s Disease.

  • Louis Lemieux

    Here’s what Bob Livingston had to say in June 15, 2009: ” buy and hold gold and silver. Because when hyperinflation comes, precious metal is the only thing that will stand between you and financial hardship.”

    This is what Bloomberg has to say today: “Since Bernanke took office in February 2006, inflation as measured by the personal-consumption-expenditures price index has averaged 1.9 percent. Criticism from Republicans, including House Speaker John Boehner of Ohio, that the Fed’s stimulus would spark a rapid acceleration in prices is unfounded, bond yields show. Traders anticipate prices will rise at a 2.17 percent rate in the next decade, near the Fed’s 2 percent goal.” http://bloom.bg/14bJmRg

    • http://personalliberty.com/ Bob Livingston

      Dear Louis Lemieux,

      If you have a point, please make it.

      Best wishes,
      Bob

      • Louis Lemieux

        I believe what Bloomberg said is closer to the truth than what you predicted and I’m more than happy not to follow your advice.

        • http://personalliberty.com/ Bob Livingston

          Dear Louis Lemieux,

          Given the lack of economic sense displayed in your previous posts, I’m not at all surprised.

          Best wishes,
          Bob

          • Louis Lemieux

            Dear Bob, the feeling is mutual. I least I can come up with something that makes sense.
            According to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, $100.00 dollars in 2009 has the same buying power as $107.02 in 2012 and the same buying power as $108.88 in 2013.

          • Louis Lemieux

            When is the hyperinflation you predicted in 2009 coming. Do you have at least any idea? Or maybe you believe it’s already here.

          • http://personalliberty.com/ Bob Livingston

            Dear Louis Lemieux,

            You write: “When is the hyperinflation you predicted in 2009 coming.” I do not know.

            You write: “Do you have at least any idea?” It might be next month, it might take 10 years, depending on the manipulations of the money printers and redistributionists. This I do know, Germans did not know it was coming in the 1920s, the Zimbabweans did not know it was coming in 2007. http://www.businessinsider.com/9-hyperinflation-horror-stories-2012-9?op=1

            Best wishes,
            Bob

          • Louis Lemieux

            In 1920 the German economy collapse due to World War One. Comparing US economic problems to that of a poor African country…!!!

            You don’t know when hyperinflation is coming. What a relief! Now I’m seeing some common sense coming from you.

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            Your ignorance is appalling, Louis, but I encourage you to keep your blinders on. It’s no skin off our backs if you lose your arse.
            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperinflation

          • Louis Lemieux

            My ignorance? This is what I got from the link you’re giving me:
            “Hyperinflation is often associated with wars, their aftermath, sociopolitical upheavals, or other crises that make it difficult for the government to tax the population, as a sudden and sharp decrease in tax revenue coupled with a strong effort to maintain the status quo can be a direct trigger of hyperinflation.”

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            Louis, you are such a dumbass. What they’re trying to say is that when the Government needs money to finance their shenanigans, they turn on the money spigot, which later results in hyperinflation.

          • Louis Lemieux

            The money spigot has to be turned on to match the rise in production. Money is just a convenient substitute for what is of value out there.

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            You haven’t got the slightest clue what you’re talking about, Louis. Newly created money just dilutes the value of the existing money, and gives the first recipients of that new money an opportunity to buy scarce goods and services without having produced anything to have earned that right. Thus they deprive the productive people with the old money from their just rewards. Money is not wealth, Louis. It buys wealth. Wealth is created by Productive citizens, and then that wealth is unfairly purchased with unearned money by the Crony Capitalists who first received it.
            You’ve had ample opportunity to read the books I’ve posted courtesy of Mises Institute, and learn about the concept of money, but instead you hang around annoying us with your ignorance.
            Here’s a start (not that you’ll take it):
            http://mises.org/books/whathasgovernmentdone.pdf

          • Louis Lemieux

            You want to go back to a barter system! To have the system we have today dollars had to be printed and as the economy grows more dollars have to be printed, period!

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            Debating with you, Louis, is like debating with a child.
            Louis says — “You want to go back to a barter system!”.
            Straw Man argument. I desire no such thing. And have said nothing to even remotely indicate that.
            No, we don’t need more money to be printed as the economy grows, Louis. As more production comes on board, without the creation of more Federal Reserve fiat money, prices would go down — as they should. Instead the Federal Reserve prints more funny money and the Government or the Crony Capitalists get that funny money for free and can then buy that extra production with that easy money instead of the average citizen benefiting from the lower prices which would otherwise ensue.
            You don’t have even the foggiest clue, Louis, about the properties of money, natural or fiat, yet you still feel compelled to make your nonsense statements. Do you have no pride?

          • Louis Lemieux

            “No, we don’t need more money to be printed as the economy grows,”
            Don’t you have any idea how many more houses, how many more cars, etc. are out there since those first dollars were printed?! The economy wouldn’t be able to function today with only those few first dollars.

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            Louis says — “The economy wouldn’t be able to function today with only those few first dollars”.
            Sure it would, Louis. They could print fractional dollars if our economy became so productive that prices became so low as to create a shortage of that medium of exchange called “money”. But it would be a very long time before that became a problem, and first we would have to get to a point where a penny could actually buy something again. As the system currently exists, newly created money is just a way for the Political Class and their Cronies to put our wealth in their pockets. Talk to your grandson, Lewis, he may be able to explain it to you.
            How does newly created fiat money aid in production, Louis?

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            I thought of a local example that your grandson would be able to understand, and then he can explain it to you, Louis:
            Suppose you’re playing a game of Monopoly with monopoly money, but to make it more compelling the winner gets $500 in Federal Reserve Notes (fiat money). There are four of you playing. As you’re playing, Joe’s friend stops by with a load of monopoly money from his own game and gives it to Joe. Would you condone that?

          • Louis Lemieux

            That would be like another country flooding our country with more money like ours.
            In a monopoly game the bank is the one that increases the money supply (as you pass go, for instance) to make sure there is enough money to keep the game going as the players keep purchasing property. The central bank (FED) plays a similar role in our economy.
            Best wishes,
            Louis

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            Louis,
            I told you to have your grandson read it and explain it to you. You obviously still don’t have a clue.

          • Louis Lemieux

            My grandson says without some money coming from the bank, the monopoly game would suffocate. He says I’m right.
            Best wishes,
            Louis

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            How does newly created money aid in production, Louis?

          • WTS/JAY

            I don’t know how funny-money aids production, and all that, but i do know it pays for my vacations. But seriously, nothing funny about funny-money, DaveH. Funny-money is serious business; just ask the clowns at the Fed, they’ll tell you the same thing.

          • Louis Lemieux
          • TheOriginalDaveH

            When are we going to see some from you, Louis?

          • Louis Lemieux

            Common sense tells me Bob makes common sense saying he does not know when hyperinflation is coming!

          • http://personalliberty.com/ Bob Livingston

            Dear Louis Lemieux,

            You write: “According to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, $100.00 dollars in 2009 has the same buying power as $107.02 in 2012 and the same buying power as $108.88 in 2013.” So the value of the dollar has declined 8 percent over the last four years while gold has increased 56 percent. You previously cited statistics saying there will be 2 percent inflation (official). Money in the bank pays less than .5 percent, so even if inflation is “only” 2 percent, your savings is losing 1.5 percent. And you think this “makes sense”? And by the way, when I started recommending to people to buy gold, it was under $50 per ounce.

            Best wishes,
            Bob

          • Louis Lemieux

            There are better places to put your money than in savings. My money in savings is only for short term.

          • rbrooks

            depends on the bank bob. 10% to 23.7% is being paid by some banks.

            a smart investor like you should have been aware of that.

          • WTS/JAY

            What banks, rbrooks, the one’s in your fantasies and dreams? LOL!

          • rbrooks

            jay is another of the foolish few.

          • WTS/JAY

            Where are these supposed banks that pay 10% to 23.7%, r brooks? Or are you referring to the mark-up your neighbourhood drug-dealer puts on his product? (-:

          • rbrooks

            the lack of investment knowledge displayed by the faithful few is not surprising.

          • WTS/JAY

            The lack of grey-matter in your vacuous-skull/echo-chamber, is not surprising, my son. But that is what makes you unique and “special”…as in, “special-needs”.

          • rbrooks

            a great example of one of your faithful few bob.

            was this what you envisioned when you started this site?

          • WTS/JAY

            rbrooks: was this what you envisioned when you started this site?

            And what would that be; that we would be dealing with “special-needs” cases like you, my son? We welcome everyone, my dear child, including the mentally-challenged. So welcome aboard, rbrooks

          • WTS/JAY

            You are a mere child, rbrooks. You instigate an argument via insults and personal-attacks, then go crying to mommy when the same is dished out to you. Could you be any more pathetic?

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            References, Flashman?

          • rbrooks

            try searching comrade davey.

            the whole world is at your finger tips.

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            Then you should have no trouble providing us with proof, Flashman.

          • http://personalliberty.com/ Bob Livingston

            Dear rbrooks,

            You write: “10% to 23.7% is being paid by some banks.” I challenge you to provide evidence of one bank paying more than 2 percent interest.

            Best wishes,
            Bob

          • rbrooks

            investment advice is not free.

            what is that information worth to you?

          • http://personalliberty.com/ Bob Livingston

            Dear rbrooks,

            Just as I suspected. You are a lying fool.

            Best wishes,
            Bob

          • http://personalliberty.com/ Bob Livingston

            Dear rbrooks,

            Just as I suspected. You are a lying fool.

            Best wishes,
            Bob

          • rbrooks

            as usual, you want someone else to pay your way.

            nothing is free.

            we could always venture a wager.

            tho it really would not be worth my time considering the small amount you are worth.

            and the fact that i am certain you would be just another of the welshers.

            some have proclaimed you are dumber than dirt. i disagree. your problem with being a radical is your narrow view has created a lack of comprehension of the original statement.

            try reading my statement again, without your blinders on. lol.

          • WTS/JAY

            One would have to be well-versed in Ebonics, to understand what it is you are trying to grunt and scribble, rbrooks.

            Ebonics: A poor excuse for a failure to grasp the basics of english. When in doubt, throw an “izzle” sound in the middle of any word of just string random thoughts together and insinuate that they actually mean something. When backed into a corner, you can always claim that it has something to do with a sort of symbolism or is a defining trait that makes your race great, versus own up to the fact that it is essentially laziness at it’s finest. Plim-plizzle, my nizzle, don’ foget bouts tha six-fo, chuch, dawg up in da hood, chilly my grilly. fo sho.

          • rbrooks

            can’t take it as well as you dish it out, eh bob.

            makes life in the real world a bit tough for you.

            better stay on this site where you can manipulate the posts.

          • http://personalliberty.com/ Bob Livingston

            Dear rbrooks,

            Now you are just embarrassing yourself. The 10% to 23.7% percent figures you cite are interest rates banks are charging for loans, not what they are paying on savings. I knew that from the start and offered you an out that you have refused to take.

            Best wishes,
            Bob

            P.S. What posts have I manipulated and how? And be specific, please.

          • rbrooks

            no bob. they are the rates banks are paying for cd’s. you are simply too narrow in your vision to comprehend what i wrote. i have given the answer. indirectly, and to a different poster, but the answer is there.

            >try searching comrade davey.

            the whole world is at your finger tips.<

            why remove the response to your challenge?

            a simple wager, eh.

            you do realise that the posts you delete from this site are only deleted from this site?

            btw- why are you paying such a high interest rate for a loan?

            i think your site is crumbling.

            you have too many children playing games.

            allowing your posters to ridicule those who fought and died to create this country or to protect this country does not reflect well on you or your mission.

            in response your childish challenge, you can simply travel across our northern border and receive more than 2%. canada has exactly the same financial risk as a u.s. bank.

            the ignorance was in your assumptions. based on your narrow views, small pocket book and personal fears.

          • http://personalliberty.com/ Bob Livingston

            Dear rbrooks,

            You write: ” they are the rates banks are paying for cd’s.” Feel free to prove it.

            You write: “you do realise that the posts you delete from this site are only deleted from this site?” And your point is…?

            You write: “i think your site is crumbling.” Evidence to back your conjecture?

            You write: “you have too many children playing games.” Yes. Yourself included.

            You write: “in response your childish challenge, you can simply travel across our northern border and receive more than 2%.” And again, the ball is in your court.

            Best wishes,
            Bob

          • rbrooks

            canadian banks are paying more than 2%. are you unable to verify that? have you been banned from canada? are you unable to perform a simple search? does someone always have to lead you?

            you are not much of an investment adviser when you lack basic knowledge of potential investment opportunity’s.

            i do find the new id’s posts to be hilarious. ignorant, but hilarious. they are the new standard for your site.

            which is really all you are providing any more.

            entertainment.

          • WTS/JAY

            Yes, and we find you very entertaining, rbrooks. You are our very own court-jester. Not too bright, but very entertaining.

          • rbrooks

            canadian banks are paying more than 2%. are you unable to
            verify that? have you been banned from canada? are you unable to perform
            a simple search? does someone always have to lead you?

            you are not much of an investment adviser when you lack basic knowledge of potential investment opportunity’s.

            i do find the new id’s posts to be hilarious. ignorant, but hilarious. they are the new standard for your site.

            which is really all you are providing any more.

            entertainment.

          • rbrooks

            as usual, you want someone else to pay your way.

            nothing is free.

            we could always venture a wager.

            tho it really would not be worth my time considering the small amount you are worth.

            and the fact that i am certain you would be just another of the welshers.

            some have proclaimed you are dumber than dirt. i disagree. your
            problem with being a radical is your narrow view has created a lack of
            comprehension of the original statement.

            try reading my statement again, without your blinders on. lol.

          • rbrooks

            as usual, you want someone else to pay your way.

            nothing is free.

            we could always venture a wager.

            tho it really would not be worth my time considering the small amount you are worth.

            and the fact that i am certain you would be just another of the welshers.

            some have proclaimed you are dumber than dirt. i disagree. your
            problem with being a radical is your narrow view has created a lack of
            comprehension of the original statement.

            try reading my statement again, without your blinders on. lol.

    • hungry4food

      Louis the Rise of the Netrocracy is the only beneficiary of this latest stock rally from Obama and Federal Reserve Spending . If you were a Retirement account holder over the past 15 years you have only regained you purchases if those were in companies that didn’t get wiped out in the last 2 Bubble Busts. The only reason why there has not been Inflation in the Domestic markets is because the rate of Consumption is at depression era rates and this Capital expansion has been kept internal within the Netocracy .

      The next Bubble thats Forming now is going to cause a Shift in World Trade Currency use that Only the Netocracy will also benefit from .

    • guest

      Louis,
      Surely you do not believe the so-called inflation numbers of 1.9%?
      When the CPI index was changed from its former 1980’s numbers, so much was left out it is unbelievable.
      It has been deliberately lowered so that People such as Seniors who are SUPPOSED to get cost of living increases get NMUCH LESS than they are really supposed to get. Just go shopping and see the differences, but of course food is not counted-one is not supposed to eat. Nor drive!
      Funny that Congress voted them selves a 6% raise because of inflation and others get 1.7%. Do you not question this?
      The REAL RATE IS CLOSER TO 10%. INFORM YOURSELF, do not believe lies emanating from the government who are ALWAYS well reimbursed.

    • TheOriginalDaveH

      Oh yeah, Bloomberg, that fount of Progressive Propaganda.
      For those who would like to know what the real Consumer Price inflation has been (not the latest doctored basket of goods), see the rate based on the 1980 basket of goods:
      http://www.shadowstats.com/alternate_data/inflation-charts
      It’s what we all are really experiencing in our daily lives. The contrived lower rate, that the Government currently claims, saves them lots of money on COLA adjustments.

    • CatGman

      In my opinion, only a fool would believe any kind of statistics or reports that come from the FED or any part of the US Government, whether a branch or organization there of.

  • Carlucci

    Another excellent article from Bob Livingston. I’m posting it on my FB page. Thanks, Bob – !

  • http://www.OlGreyGhost.Blogspot.com/ Ol’ Grey Ghost

    One of the funnier things I ever heard from a politician was when a congressman back in 1980’s wanted all the children of the land taught that socialism was an inferior form of government to that which the American people have. The ironic part was that he wanted this taught in the public schools which, by their very nature of forcibly taking resources from those who might be able to absorb the loss and giving to those needful persons who have the proper political connections, are socialistic constructs.

    The first taste of socialism that young people ever get are with their school supplies in Kindergarten. These supplies are taken from those who took the time and money to buy them, pooled together, and then metered out amongst the entirety of the class based on the needs of the lesson, regardless of who provided them. One of the worst offenses that the parents of these children can do is to write their child’s name on what they thought was their child’s property.

    Since the U.S. adopted the Prussian Model back in the 19th century, the main purpose of the public schools is not to educate, but to indoctrinate children into becoming good “citizens” (read: loyal servants of the state). With the emphasis of “good order,” “Drill and Ceremony”-type marching, and obedience above all other traits of good character, the public schools have become juvenile military boot camps.

    Those who can make it on to college will serve as the officers while those who make it through high school will fill the enlisted ranks. Those who can’t make it through high school will clean the parade field after the cavalry marches by…

    • TheOriginalDaveH

      They knew about Propaganda in Public Schools over 300 years ago:
      http://mises.org/journals/jls/7_1/7_1_3.pdf

      • http://www.OlGreyGhost.Blogspot.com/ Ol’ Grey Ghost

        In effect, any and all attempts to educate the “cha-HILL-drun” are essentially indoctrination in some form of propaganda as all collections of knowledge contain some falsehoods intermixed with the truth. What becomes the issue is who has the right to indoctrinate children – the parents or the state. As the state has no inherent right to exist, it has no right to “teach,” therefore the right, and the responsibility, is that of the parents…

        http://olgreyghost.blogspot.com/2009/05/how-to-really-improve-public-schools.html

        “If you want to touch the future, teach. If you want to control the future, control the education of the young…”

        • JeffH

          Ol’ Grey Ghost…speaking of “control the education of the young…”…see my post above.

          • http://www.OlGreyGhost.Blogspot.com/ Ol’ Grey Ghost

            If you’re referring to the one about sexual identity, then the solution is to make all restrooms, locker-rooms, and showers the single-user kind that you’ll find in most hospitals. That will stop the perverts and provide relief for those introverts who hate to use public facilities…

      • Jeff

        In the DaveH School, instead of asking the kid with the candy if he brought enough for everyone, each child is encouraged to show off his wealth, is punished or ostracized or ridiculed as a socialist if he shares his bounty, and is encouraged to eat all the candy he can carry – just so the school can show it’s not being influenced by any do-gooder initiative aimed at getting kids to eat vegetables.

        • Nadzieja Batki

          Why should the kid have brought candy enough for everyone? Since when is it the job of the parents and the child to provide candy for everyone under the guise of “sharing”?
          You and ideology condones STEALING in its many varieties, you just don’t like to call it that.

        • Liberty Lover

          What a preposterously foolish comment! For starters, where is the relevance of vegetables in this discussion? As for the “relevant” part of your post, your portrayal of capitalism as being against voluntary charity is one of the more despicable straw men you’ve created on this site.

        • TheOriginalDaveH

          That reminds me of a time when I was in Grammar School. I was chewing gum and the teacher said “if you don’t have some for everybody to chew, I want you to put that in the basket”. So the next day, I brought enough for everybody.

        • TheOriginalDaveH

          Jeff says — “is punished or ostracized or ridiculed as a socialist if he shares his bounty”.
          Duh, Jeff, you have that backwards. Socialists don’t share their bounty — They share somebody else’s bounty.

        • JeffH

          Unhinged Jeff…California’s legislature just passed a law that directly affects schoolchildren K-12 and Gov. Brown signed it into law. I’d like to get your “opinion” on this legislation, is it good or bad…please keep it as simple as you can.

          Brown signed into law AB 1266 which allows any K-12 student who identifies his or her gender as something opposite of what their actual sex is, access to any bathrooms, locker rooms and sports teams.

          That means that if your daughter’s male classmate wants to use the girls restroom, he simply has to “decide” that he identifies as a female—and he’ll be let right in.

          That also means male high school athletes can join female sports teams, if they claim to identify as a female.

          That mean allowing teenaged boys and girls in the same locker room, showering side by side.

          This bill doesn’t apply to adults. It doesn’t apply exclusively to teenagers. It applies to the entire spectrum of K-12 students, meaning it affects children as young as five years old.
          California generally sets the tone for the nation and this law, in my opinion, is a terrible misjustice to children to expose them to this kind of indoctrination, especially in our schools.

        • http://batman-news.com samurai

          SSDD, eh Jeff? It seems that you have lost the ability to learn. I wonder why? Here is an article that tells something about America, but it seems you haven’t learned this either.
          http://www.westernjournalism.com/america-is-not-a-christian-nation-oh-really/
          FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
          You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot. This leave you out.
          “There is no salvation of any other than in Jesus Christ of Nazareth.”
          Rev. John Witherspoon
          Sermon 15, January 02, 1758
          Signer of the Declaration of Independence

        • WTS/JAY

          Jeff: In the DaveH School, instead of asking the kid with the candy if he brought enough for everyone, each child would be encouraged to be responsible and bring their own candy and not to mooch from the one child. They would be taught the moral-principles of working/chores, saving their money, and buying their own candy. This would ensure that all will have their own candy, thus removing the burden from the one and only responsivle-child to supply all the candy for the rest of the lazy, dead-beats!

          • Jeff

            It is wonderful for the child fortunate enough to have parents who can buy him candy, or Nikes, or the most expensive clothes, or ski trips, or Summers in Europe. It’s when such luxuries become the norm that others of more modest means are looked down upon.
            We have a couple of my son’s friends staying with us right now because they are essentially homeless. To them, even our very basic lifestyle (house, car, food) seems extravagant. Telling them they should exercise personal responsibility and bring their own [whatever] might well be viewed by them as a put down.

          • Jeff

            I’m sure in your experience only the most responsible kids brought “candy” to school. I remember you stoner types in the back row, too smart and too cool for school. No, I won’t have fries with that!

          • WTS/JAY

            I remember when responsibility and self-sufficiency were once considered essential components of a child’s character ensemble, It was always understood, through intuition and experience, that if one teaches the novice to fish, that the acquired-skill would greatly assist them in their survival as they journeyed through life. For this reason, responsibility and self-sufficiency were always celebrated and encouraged, because the generation entrusted to teach the children and foster responsibility and productivity, truly cared for and truly loved the children. The end result of such an investment; was a prosperous nation.

            But no more, as times have changed. The children are no longer encouraged to be responsible, they are no longer encouraged to be self-sufficient, but rather the opposite; that they should take from the one who is responsible, self-sufficient and successful, Yet, it seems to escape the notice of the new socialist-educators, as they instruct the children to ruin, that a parasitic and slothful lifestyle could not be made possible and sustained, were it not for the responsible and the productive.

          • Jeff

            OK, so if kids are coming to school hungry, is it permissible to feed them or does that violate some right wing law of the jungle? Are they supposed to steal food like kids did in the old movies? Or just stay hungry until they can find work in a sweat shop? Bear in mind we’re no longer in 1920s or 30s.

          • WTS/JAY

            Is it permissible to feed kids who come to school hungry? We’ve always fed kids who came to school hungry, it is not a new phenomena invented by the left wing palookas. What is different today, Jeff, is that they are fed and are made the wards of the State, and forever dependant. Unlike back in the 20’s and 30’s, where we fed them and taught them to be self-reliant, responsible and free.

          • Jeff

            Are you talking about soup kitchens or what? In the 20s and 30s, kids who went to school hungry got fed? Who fed them? My father grew up in Brooklyn in the 20s and 30s, and I don’t recall him ever talking about any free breakfast or lunch programs for the poor kids – which at that time was virtually everyone. The world was a different place then. Most kids, even the poorest, had a mother in the house and food.
            But why are we comparing ourselves to the 20s and the Depression era anyway? We know that many kids get most of their nutrition from school breakfast and lunch programs. Blame it on poor parenting or the Democrats if you must, but these kids already have 2 strikes against them. If they eat well enough to succeed in school, at least they might not strike out at age 12.
            As for the whole dependency thing, no one is suggesting kids be signed up for welfare payments. The idea is to make sure they get fed well enough to get an education. The Republican obsession with cutting social services to the poor, to the kids, to the sick is not going to make us a stronger nation – just a less healthy one.

  • Patriot_Dave

    Thank You BOB!!! This has to be the greatest challenge of our Republic…. The restoration of Common Sense, followed by Common Courtesy and finally the realization that the Rule of Law is currently overburdened by excessive Law and often times is not only counter-intuitive but flagrantly ill conceived !!! The US Tax code is an ideal example……. Now what do we do about the proliferation of ‘right’ vs ‘left’ ‘propaganda’????

    • TheOriginalDaveH
      • Patriot_Dave

        Cultivate Sound Ideas!!!!

        • Nadzieja Batki

          Another cliché that can mean anything and nothing.

          • Patriot_Dave

            Did you read the book DaveH posted?

    • Nadzieja Batki

      You are popping out clichés. What is “common sense” and what is “common courtesy”?
      By the way, in reading your comment I find that you are lacking both common sense and common courtesy and it is according to how I define both.

      • Patriot_Dave

        Ok… Post YOUR definitions…

        • Guest

          Batki….What’s the problem??? You articulate your disregard for cliches quite well… why not post your definitions or is that too hard???

          • http://cowboybyte.com/ Alondra

            Because she did not receive your reply. You replied to your name Instead of her.

      • Patriot_Dave

        Batki….What’s the problem??? You articulate your disregard for cliches quite well… why not post your definitions or is that too hard???

  • TheOriginalDaveH

    David Fields (Facebook) says — “You do realize that “fascist” means “ultra-conservative” or “right-wing”, don’t you?”.
    No David, it means Government firmly in bed with their Crony Capitalists to the detriment of both their competitors and their consumers, and much more:
    http://mises.org/daily/2903
    It is somewhere between Socialism in which Government owns the means of production, and Capitalism (Free Markets).

    David says — “Of course, conspiracy theories don’t help the argument, either”.
    Oh yeah, the old tried and true Liberal Progressive method of stopping their opponents from telling Propagandized stooges anything outside of what the Progressives want them to know.

    David says — “And you can’t quite call a highly-contested administration a “regime” as there is hardly any projected effort from that administration, trying to force people to do things that are patently illegal”.
    Since when, David Fields, is it Constitutional for the Government to Force people to buy Healthcare Insurance? Show me where in the Constitution they derive that Power?
    http://www.cato.org/pubs/constitution/constitution_en.html

    David says — “You want regime, look at Ghaddafi, look at Hussein; those two didn’t even try to be democratic. Sure, they put on a show, but they made it quite obvious that ANY democratic election went their way by a landslide”.
    He contradicts himself in the same sentence. How LIberal Progressive of him.

    David says — “As for the rodeo clown, well, I admit I wasn’t there, but even if there was no threat, the threat was implied and effectively encouraged violence against a sitting president”.
    Unlike Obama using Drones to kill people without due process. Now all you Liberal Progressives get down on your knees and worship your master!

  • Dajeno

    I am probably one of the most politically incorrect people around. I don’t go for all the politically correct hogwash being instilled in the minds of the uninformed. It’s time to take our government back to what our founding fathers invisioned. It’s time to broom all the professional politicians and quit trampling on the Bill of Rights. If you want to find out how this can be done go to conventionofstates.com and be part of taking our constitution back.

  • Jeff

    As a general matter, a lot of what you say is hard to contest. We are a bit too involved in wars overseas and the world is a complicated place. Encouraging democracy can often backfire when it turns out the people elect someone who is essentially anti-democratic. Obviously, we cannot control every variable in another country’s electoral decisions nor should we try to. But is it wrong-headed for us to encourage non-democratic regions of the world to democratize? I don’t think so – as long as we have our eyes open. We found out at the end of the Cold War that the old adage “the enemy of my enemy is my friend” isn’t always true. Just because we found rebels willing to fight the Soviets in Afghanistan, it didn’t mean we had found committed democrats interested in anything resembling Western Democracy.

    As for some of the other stuff, that’s just silly. There’s certainly enough silliness going on every day that is in no way imperiling the Republic. While calling for a federal investigation of the “rodeo clown” incident may be a bit much, it is hard to deny the crowd’s antipathy to Obama had at least a racial component and that much of the criticism of Obama (unlike that of Clinton and W) is based on stereotypes and not on exaggerated aspects of personality. Clinton was effectively satirized for his reckless womanizing and W for his stupidity while a lot of the right wing “criticism” of Obama concerns racial stereotypes rather than something he has done.

    But what is your prescription for the problems you lay out? Other than repealing every Progressive initiative of the 20th Century, that is?

    • http://personalliberty.com/ Bob Livingston

      Dear Jeff,

      You write: “But what is your prescription for the problems you lay out? Other than repealing every Progressive initiative of the 20th Century, that is?” So you ask for the solution, then discard it out of hand? This column must be about you.

      Best wishes,
      Bob

      • JeffH

        SMACK! OUCH!

        • WTS/JAY

          The dumb-doggy got spanked!

          • JeffH

            So what else is new?

          • WTS/JAY

            I think he likes it, he keeps coming back for more.

        • http://batman-news.com samurai

          Jeff H and Jay, you 2 just made my day. I needed a good laugh. Here is an article about a new book that tells about how to impeach Obama bin Laden.
          http://www.mrconservative.com/2013/08/22897-viral-new-book-lays-out-case-to-impeach-obama/
          FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
          You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot.
          “I entreat you in the most earnest manner to believe in Jesus Christ, for ‘there is no salvation in any other.’ (Acts 4:12) If you are not reconciled to God through Jesus Christ – if you are not clothed with the spotless robe of his righteousness – you must forever perish.”
          Rev. John Witherspoon
          Signer of the Declaration of Independence

      • http://cowboybyte.com/ Alondra

        Dear Mr. Livingston,

        Could you please find out what PSYCOPATH(S) are posting under “Alondra’s girlfriend”; “Alondra Sucks!” (Guest) and “notlikeyou” (Guest). They are obviously on the website to troll.

        Last weekend my e-mail box was flooded by their comments.

        He/They suffer from the overwhelming mood disorder – MANIA (the Greek “μανία”), which means “to be mad, to rage, to be furious”

        Psychopathic Mania’s characteristics are:
        Egocentrism
        Pathological lying
        Manipulations
        Denial
        Lack of reality
        Lack of remorse or guilt
        Poor behavioral control
        Parasitic lifestyle
        Non-acceptance of the rejection
        Impulsiveness

        I know one commentator on this Website whose personality fits ALL10 psychological characteristics of the Psychopathic Mania. He is posting under the “bob666”

        So, my question is: Can you block the replies of this Psychopath to my comments, and possibly ban them from the forum?

        Thank you

        • Bob666

          Mr Livingston,
          I’m sure that you will deal with this situation with your usual factual & rational style.

          Thanks,
          Bob666

          • http://personalliberty.com/ Bob Livingston

            Dear Bob666,

            Please see my response to Alondra.

            Best wishes,
            Bob

          • Bob666

            Thanks Bob Livingston,

            As my dad use to tell me growing up-it takes all kinds of people to make the world and many of them tend to be very “colorful”

            Regards,
            Bob666

          • WTS/JAY

            My my Dad always used to say, watch out for people who always say; my Dad always to used to say…(-:

          • Bob666

            Your dad was right,
            look what happened?

        • WTS/JAY

          How were they able to obtain your e:mail address, Alondra?

          • Bob666

            Good question-I’m sure there will be an interesting answer-can’t wait to hear it.

          • http://cowboybyte.com/ Alondra

            They do not have my e-male. Disqus sends me replies on my comments.

            I have your Reply in my E-mail right now.

            In your Profile you can choose “Email notifications” of the replies to your comments.

          • WTS/JAY

            Yes, i know. But that does not mean that the one’s you claim inundate your mail-box with comments could have obtained your address through “Email notifications”. Whenever i receive a “notification” as if from you, through Disqus, your e:mail address is not included, or revealed to me. If, indeed, they were able to obtain your e:mail address, they must have obtained it by some other means; certainly not Disqus, or PLD, for that matter; as that would be a serious violation of privacy-policy.

          • http://cowboybyte.com/ Alondra

            Jay, I NEVER claimed that somebody “have obtained” my E-mail. I said that “my e-mail box was flooded by his/their comments”. And I am sure that Mr. Livingston understands that I got those comments in my E-mail box thru Disqus.

          • WTS/JAY

            Oh, i got you now. Sorry, my mistake! The only way you can stop that, is by turning your notifications option off. Unfortunately, this will prevent you from from receiving notifications of comments and responses made by all, posters.

          • http://cowboybyte.com/ Alondra

            I think you are wrong. I think there is another way to check replies to my comments. My son will come this weekend to check something.

        • http://personalliberty.com/ Bob Livingston

          Dear Alondra,

          The moderator is aware of it and is working to block the offender(s). It is either multiple people or someone able to change use multiple IP addresses. Several IPs have been blocked. The multiple email addresses used are blocked, but they appear to be fakes. You blamed Bob666. There is no evidence that he is the offender.

          Best wishes,
          Bob

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            Bob, to whom it may concern. The person in question is a 42 year old secularist, libturd, progturd, atheist traitor named Kang. Kang is his family name and is currently living in South Korea. If you think I’m wrong, that is fine, but I had the displeasure of working with this less intelligent troll in 2010. You notice some of the multiple names used in attacking me (not Jeff, etc.), these are just some of the multiple names he uses on this site. The man is delusional, has a superiority complex, and thinks he is smarter than everyone else. He was even using the name stars and stripes, even posting gay pornos on your respected site. If you ban one of his email addresses, he just gets another and continues on. The man is a traitor to everything this country stands for and is dirtying up this site. I cannot tell you what to do, but good luck and keep up the good fight fellow patriot. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
            You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot. This leaves Kang out.

          • Stars-n-Stripes

            Please give Mr. Livingston that Kang guy’s address and phone number so he can contact him. Mr. Livingston will then find out what a silly person your are for believing such nonsense. Wow! How inane you are!

          • http://personalliberty.com/ Bob Livingston

            Dear Stars-n-Stripes, Alaundry, Barney Rubble, Super Fly, Carl Weston, SSS, et al,

            You are in serial violation of the comment policy. Your current IP has been blocked. However, I realize you use a Russian IP proxy service and probably will be back. Be advised that when your service assigns a new IP and begin posting in violation of the policy, the moderator will block you again.

            Best wishes,
            Bob

          • http://personalliberty.com/ Bob Livingston

            Dear samurai,

            I do not know who Kang is or what you’re talking about exactly. I have identified the offender is posting under a number of names including Stars-n-Stripes, Alaundry, Barney Rubble, Super Fly, Carl Weston, samurai s**** samurai and not like you. He is using a Russian proxy server in order to hide his identity.

            Best wishes,
            Bob

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            Thanks Bob. I understand what you are saying. Sook Young and I have an American (Yahoo) email site and a Korean email site (Her family does not speak English), so the person could still be him. He always attacks me (not Jeff, Dave, etc.) and he is making a mockery of this site. Thank you for your efforts and keep up the good fight fellow patriot. I’ve been on this site for 4.5 years and wish to continue. I’ve learned a lot more things here than I did in college. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
            You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot.
            *BTW, Sook Young says hello.

        • Alaundry

          I’m so glad you have finally admitted to your 10 medical personality flaws. Healing can only begin once you have recognized and have admitted it. You know, something like an alcoholic. Your addiction to name calling is quite extreme. You should be blocked for your insanity and rudeness alone. Only about 5% of your postings are for the topic of a current article. The other 95% are ad hominems, insults, name callings, and extreme rudeness. I’m just giving you a taste of your own medicine.

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            Which is not your right to do, so go home and take your psych meds. Here is an article about a real American, not a traitor like you Kang.
            http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/meet-the-man-who-has-saved-1000-babies-from-abortion-in-just-3-years-video
            We need more people like him in this country. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
            You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot. This leaves you out.
            “God rules in the armies of Heaven, and without His whole blessing, the best human counsels are but foolishness.”
            John Hancock
            !st Signer of the Declaration of Independence
            Devout Christian

          • Bob666

            Yo Sammy,

            ” a Russian proxy server in order to hide his identity”.

            Maybe Alondra has brought some baggage from home?

            Probably not your guy, but someone from her past?

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            No, I don’t think so, because I know the coward and traitor personally. Please do not blame Alondra for this. It doesn’t sound like something she would do. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
            You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot.

          • Bob666

            Yo Sammy,

            I was not laying blame to Alondra (tho-she has been blaming me for over a month now). What I am suggesting is; she probably has her own version of the guy that you call “Kang” in her life, you and I are just the collateral damage.

            The only reason I bring this up is; she speaks Russian (so she claims) and claims to have been educated there and as Bob said, the post are coming from Russian Proxy servers.

            It could also be just another internet whack job that does not have any relationship with any of us..

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            Understood Bob. BTW, she does speak Russian as she and Force Recon had an exchange in Russian on a prior thread. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
            You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot.

          • http://personalliberty.com/ Bob Livingston

            Dear Stars-n-Stripes, Alaundry, Barney Rubble, Super Fly, Carl Weston, SSS, et al,

            You write: “I’m so glad you have finally admitted to your 10 medical personality flaws.” Perhaps you should heed your own advice.

            Best wishes,
            Bob

          • Jon H

            Dear Bob, First off, my apologies for being a pain in the [you know where] and for violating your comment policy. I’m Sorry! I did use a Hide IP software because of being blocked. I’m actually located in Nova Scotia, Canada.

            It’s my fault for letting certain individuals get to me. I should have just ignored them…but NO, I just couldn’t do THAT! ;-)

            The ones who I find the most rude and disrespectful are Samurai and Alondra. The condescending way they respond to others just gets under my skin. I’ve tried to let it go, but they won’t stop. I’ve even asked nicely for them to be more respectful, but that doesn’t happen. So I do my stupid things to try and return the favor. Doing that is really a waste of time and energy on my part.

            From now on, if you choose to let me be a part of the conversation, I promise to NEVER pull anymore silly crap on any of YOUR website visitors and I will only use my real first name. I totally understand if you do not want me to be a part of the forums. I am responsible for my actions and no one else. Again, my apologies.

            Respectfully,
            JON H
            jon@maplevale………..

            PS I’m using my IP software this time only to reply to you because my reply would have been blocked.otherwise.

          • http://personalliberty.com/ Bob Livingston

            Dear JonH,

            You write: “First off, my apologies for being a pain in the [you know where] and for violating your comment policy.” Apology accepted.

            You write: “From now on, if you choose to let me be a part of the conversation, I promise to NEVER pull anymore silly crap on any of YOUR website visitors and I will only use my real first name.” The moderator has removed your original email and IP from the blacklist. Please realize that because of your past history, your leash is very short.

            Best wishes,
            Bob

        • http://personalliberty.com/ Bob Livingston

          Dear Alondra,

          The offender has been identified as posting under the following names, at least: Stars-n-Stripes, Alaundry, Barney Rubble, Super Fly, Carl Weston, samurai s**** samurai and not like you. He is using a Russian proxy server to hide his identity. It may be that he is also the same person using the names you mentioned, but that has not been verified.

          Best wishes,
          Bob

          • http://cowboybyte.com/ Alondra

            THANK you, sir.

      • doktor don

        Gees Jeff; I wish someone would ask me about what needs to be done. Prescriptions abound: rational, moral, and fair too! Therein lies the rub!

        • WTS/JAY

          One could just as easily ask a tree-stump and no doubt would receive the same answer if they were to ask you; duuuuh, what time is it, dude?

      • Jeff

        But that’s your prescription for everything, isn’t it? Like W and his tax cuts. Good for what ails ya.

        • WTS/JAY

          Don’t underestimate the power of tax-cuts or raising taxes, Jeff, as both are used for funding and achieving our imperialist-agenda abroad…err, i mean, spreading our democracy. Go forth my son, and spread my word. I’m with thee, always!

    • WTS/JAY

      Drivel!

      • Jeff

        Speak, boy, speak!

        • WTS/JAY

          Write, boy, write!

    • WTS/JAY

      The Boys Who Cry Racism…Will Jimmy Carter and company expose the hollowness of the tired old charge?

      http://www.city-journal.org/2009/eon1015hs.html

    • doktor don

      Well said, Jeff! Smart Guy in every group. You deserve the, “Tact, and Civility,” Award. Like your objectivity!

      • Jeff

        Don’t tell DaveH, whatever you do! He lives off his “thumbs ups.”

        • WTS/JAY

          Are you crying, Jeff? Whaaaa, mommy, DaveH gets more thumbs up than me. Not fair! LOL…

          • Jeff

            If Timmy read my posts to you correctly, you would know I take pride in my disagreements with the likes of you, Alondra, the Ridge Rat, and the rest of the Proud to Know Nothing caucus. DaveH lives for his thumbs ups. Wouldn’t want to deprive him. Vote early and vote often!

          • WTS/JAY

            Whaaaa, mommy, its not fair, DaveH gets more thumbs up than me! Boo hoo, blubber blubber, sob sob…LOL!!!

          • Jeff

            You are so moronic it’s almost unbelievable. Debating a chair is more challenging.

          • WTS/JAY

            Jeff: Debating a chair is more challenging.

            What’s your rate of success when debating a chair, Jeff? Do you still get thumbs down when you debate furniture? Word!

  • vietnamvet1971

    Liberals are the Dumbest & just plain Stupid people that Rant & Rave Mumble & Jumble and never speak any thing that makes sense. I am guessing (OR it is the Facts GOD) has given them over to a Reprobate mind.

  • http://cowboybyte.com/ Alondra

    The “sergeant” Schultz (as Rush calls him) from the famous MSNBC accused a PHONY “right-wing Christians” for their barbaric opposition to the O’care, which, according to the lamebrained Schultz “IS THE MOST MORAL THING THIS COUNTRY HAS EVER DONE.”

    So he went on to expose the “PHONY” Christians’ Hypocrisy and Lie:

    “This [Obamacare] is GOOD for America and I won’t let them lie. They’re PHONY Christians. Phony Christians when they say that they are Christian but then THEY WANT TO TAKE AWAY FROM THEIR NEXT-DOOR NEIGHBOR. They don’t want to be their brother’s keeper … A growing number of right-wing Christians are COMING OUT DAY AFTER DAY as a Christian. I think I have the right to expose their HYPOCRISY and call them out for ALL the things they are saying wrong and how misguided they are.“

    “It is very simple. If Obamacare is repealed, Americans WILL DIE. Children of God (???) will die.”

    Well, my opinion is that even a GOOD Psychiatrist can’t help him. It’s a very extreme case of the Psychopathy.

    Of cause, the PHONY Christians are guilty as charged.

    http://gopthedailydose.com/2013/08/18/msnbc-host-ed-schultz-only-phony-christians-oppose-obamacare-because-children-of-god-will-die/

    Just watch the PSYCHOPATH’s monolog.

    • http://cowboybyte.com/ Alondra

      Why PSYCHOPATH Schultz does NOT expose his Liberal brothers and sisters for the INFANTICIDE approximately 1.21 million babies by abortion???

      • WTS/JAY

        Hi Dave!

        • http://cowboybyte.com/ Alondra

          This is not Dave.
          This is “bob666″, PSYCHOPATH “of the 13 generation out of 14”

          • Bob666

            Hello Baconator,

            Once again, like a month ago as you babbled on telling the world for three days that I was the one behind these post, Bob came and set you straight (well-as straight as you can be).

            But alas, here you are again-SSDD. Please keep making these comments- as I do enjoy watching you proven wrong as it happens just about every day.

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            I have reminded her that it was the same person who hijacked her name and posted about you and her. I think she may be doing this because you 2 really get into it, discussions, that is. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
            You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot.

          • http://cowboybyte.com/ Alondra

            Samurai, WHY are you talking to this Delusional PITIFUL SICK EGO-CENTRIC MANIAC.

            All he wants is attention. He is so STUPID thinking that he can manipulate people and lay his STUPID conditions.
            .
            He is desperately requiring to be accepted as Grandiose and worthy creature, when in reality he is a filthy IGNORAMUS and sick PSYCHOPATH !!!

            His self-importance does not let him sleep.

          • Bob666

            Well Baconator,
            Because he has a right to do so, This is not the USSR and Putin is not in power-you don’t get to limit the rights of people because we have something called a first amendment.

            If you don’t like it here-then go back to Russia.

          • http://cowboybyte.com/ Alondra

            What a SICK PITIFUL EGO-CENTRIC PSYCHOPATH !!!

            Unfortunately for you and for the Korrupt Kenyan Keiminal Vladimir Putin is in POWER and knocked the stupid FRAUD multiple times.

            So keep deluding and yapping and exposing your evilness and idiocy thru 1st Amendment.

            Nothing will help you, chronic filthy MANIAC. Satan is proud of you, filthy scumbag “of the 13 generation out of 14”

          • Bob666

            Yup,

            Coo Coo for Cocoa Puffs!

          • http://cowboybyte.com/ Alondra

            Keep squeaking manurial fly.

          • Bob666

            Yo Swinestein
            I love the First amendment and you really are Coo Coo for Cocoa Puffs!

          • http://cowboybyte.com/ Alondra

            KEEP SQUEAKING FILTHY MANURIAL FLY.

          • http://cowboybyte.com/ Alondra

            Keep squeaking FILTHY manurial fly

          • http://cowboybyte.com/ Alondra

            On MY level? With your Stupidity and Highly wicked cowardice?

          • http://cowboybyte.com/ Alondra

            Keep yapping Coward Delusional PITIFUL SICK EGO-CENTRIC MANIAC.

          • http://cowboybyte.com/ Alondra

            I am going sleep. But you keep yapping Coward Delusional PITIFUL SICK EGO-CENTRIC MANIAC.

            Seek H E L P !!!

          • Bob666

            Yo Sammy,

            Thanks-I know that you share some opinions with her-But I have to say that it has become quite evident that she is Coo Coo for Cocoa Puffs (1)!

            (1) a strictly medical term, used to describe a patient or person that has delved into a realm of irrational, illogical and/or crazy thought processes; Affected with madness; insane to an exceeding degree characterized by weakness or feebleness; decrepit; broken; falling to decay; shaky; unsafe; foolish

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            Sorry Alondra, it is not Bob, but it is the same person that uses mutiple names on this thread. He was warned as stars and stripes by Bob Livingston on that thread. I know who the brainless twit really is, so don’t let him bother you. BTW, here are some articles about unplanned parenthood and the closing of abortion clinics at record pace.
            http://www.godfatherpolitics.com/12131/planned-parenthoods-use-of-taxpayer-dollars-being-investigated/
            http://www.godfatherpolitics.com/12129/abortion-clinics-closing-at-record-pace/
            Keep up the good fight fellow patriot. We are winning the war on children. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
            You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot.
            “The people in general ought to have regard to the moral character of those whom they invest with authority either in the legislative, executive, or judicial branches.”
            Rev. John Witherspoon
            Signer of the Declaration of Independence

          • http://cowboybyte.com/ Alondra

            If it dosen’t come from the Satan’s bastard computer, he is accomplice. One wicked company, including DEPRAVED Karolyn. And I have proof.

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            OK, that’s fine, but I know the person who is doing this. I had the displeasure of working with him before. The man is a secularist, atheist, progturd, libturd, and thinks he is smarter than anyone else. Just don’t let him bother you. He is a 42 year old man with the maturity level of a teenager. Please don’t let him distract you from the good fight. He is only here to cause disention (sp) among the ranks. He is a traitor and cares nothing for our country nor his fellow man. Here is an article that asks why we haven’t impeached Obama bin Laden yet.
            http://www.capitolhilldaily.com/2013/08/impeach-obama/#more
            FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
            You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot.
            “He is the best friend to American liberty who is the most sincere and active in promoting true and undefiled religion, and who sets himself with the greatest firmness to bear down profanity and immorality of every kind. Whoever is an envowed enemy of God, I scruple not to call him an enemy to his country.”
            Rev. John Witherspoon
            The Works of John Witherspoon (Edinburgh: J. Ogle, 1815), Vol. 5, pg. 278, Sermon 15, “The Absolute Necessity of Salvation Through Christ,” Januray 02, 1758

          • http://cowboybyte.com/ Alondra

            It does not glue to my butt, but I don’t want to waste my time on the checking and cleaning my e-mail box.

          • Jeff

            The only reason the TP Moron Party hasn’t gotten around to impeaching Obama is they’re too busy “repealing” Obamacare. If only Boehner would listen to you, the Repugs would impeach, the Senate would laugh, and next election – no more TP Moron Party to deal with.

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            No response possible due to lack of intellectual content by Jeff. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
            You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot. This leaves you out.

          • http://cowboybyte.com/ Alondra

            The real name for the Kenyan FRAUD is: Mentally Pervert and Sexually PERVERT.

            Or the KKK – the Korrupt Kenyan Kriminal !!!

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            Be careful fellow patriot. He’ll ambush anyone, unless you are the very far left. He has even ambushed Bob666 under a different name. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
            You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot.

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            I don’t know who this person is that you are refering to, but by using so many different names, along with an making someone collateral damage, really shows you are an immature, less intelligent little person. Grow up and get a life. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
            You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot. This leaves you out Kang.
            “Who can find a virtuous woman? for her price is far above rubies. The heart of her husband doth safely trust in her, so that he shall have no need of spoil. She will do him good and not evil all the days of her life.”
            Proverbs 31:10-12
            *I have one, how about you traitor?

          • Bob666

            Yo Sammy-Is it your friend????

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            No. This is the same fool that used your name, Alondra’s name, and my name by posing as stars and stripes. He isn’t even worth the time answering. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
            You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot.

          • Bob666

            Well Sammy-I guess that all of us get to share in his enjoyment.

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            Just watch your back. He’ll try to ambush anyone, unless you are the far left. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
            You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot.

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            I don’t know who this person is, but we both know who you are Kang. Why all the different names? You cannot go against the posting policy and be able to stay on this site. Now quit showing everyone here just how less intrelligent you are and go home. It is time for your medication. Isn’t it valium? You also lie, for I have never posted as any other name on this site since I started in April, 2009. Sheesh! Both a liar and a traitor. I’ll bet your parents are very disappointed in you. I’ll bet your mother wonders why she never had an abortion. Don’t you have your boyfriend to meet? Since you are in KOrea, why don’t you forgo your U.S. citizenship and take theres? You are clearly not a good American. Bob Livingston, he is back with another name. If he does this again, I’ll give you his address and telephone number. This should help you to find out who he really is. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
            You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot. This leaves you out traitor.

          • Bob666

            Wow Porkahontas,

            I missed that one. Just so I can understand this correctly, you have proof that Karolyn and I are co-conspirators in posting to you under fake names?

            I have to say-your mind is far more gone than I thought it could be.

            Truly Coo Coo for Cocoa Puffs!

          • http://cowboybyte.com/ Alondra

            KEEP SQUEAKING FILTHY MANURIAL FLY.

      • WTS/JAY

        Sicko!

    • Jeff

      Does that make Rush General Burkhalter? They do look alike.

      • http://cowboybyte.com/ Alondra

        Wrong, Jeffry. That is the Korrupt Kenyan Kriminal’s yapping unleashed. And you do look alike.

        P.S. I am glad you are listening Rush. Right Now he is on MY radio.

        • Jeff

          I guess that makes you Burkhalter’s sister – the one who was in love with Klink. As for Blabberbaugh, you’re welcome to him.

          • http://cowboybyte.com/ Alondra

            With so many dark clouds out there, I did choose the right one for me.

            And sorry, Jeffry, it’s not you. It’s a stream of the Sun’s light – Rush.

            But it nice to talk to you, even I already know your twisted viewpoint and beliefs.

            Have a good day and try to be a MAN as the nature intended you to be.

            P.S. Why would not you to talk to Karolyn? She is sharing your viewpoints and beliefs and matching your personality.

            Just curiosity.

          • WTS/JAY

            I think Jeff and Bob666 want you in the worst way. See how they fight over you. I fear they will kill each other if somebody doesn’t break the two love struck pups up. Word!

          • Bob666

            Yea Jay,
            You have that one figured out don’t you…..

            ROTFLMAO

            BTW-are you having an identity crises?

          • WTS/JAY

            Is your question directed at Dave, rbrooks, smilee, jeff, Flashy, Jeremy or Jay, Bob666?

          • http://cowboybyte.com/ Alondra

            Mr. Smith, You forgot to unclude Mizz Stupidity and Depravity.

            BIRDS of the same feather – Stick Together.

          • http://cowboybyte.com/ Alondra

            Yeah, just drunk duck can dream about.

            It’s called: Nature at work a.k.a. Birds of the same feather DO flock together.

            God is GREAT. He NEVER lies.

            But, what I see that you have multiple “personalities” lastly.
            And this one I like the most. I could not believe it’s you.
            Yesterday I had a very GOOD dose of the laugh. Thank you. (Was it about my English? Just curious.)

          • WTS/JAY

            I like to mix it up, keeps things interesting…(-:

            Was it about your English? Not sure i understand your question…?

          • http://cowboybyte.com/ Alondra

            Mix it up, but not so fast. I liked R. Smith.

            About my English: I am talking about your yesterday’s comment on the broken English (your reply to Ron r)
            I tell you, I laughed as I did not for the long time. It was really funny.

          • WTS/JAY

            Oh that, i was just having a little fun with rocket-Ronny. Old ronny didn’t think it was too funny though. The boy has no sense of humour. A real sad-sack, if you ask me…(-:

          • Bob666

            Yo Jeff,

            One answer on the tormented mind of Porkahontas,

            Coo Coo for Cocoa Puffs!

          • Jeff

            When she told me I looked like Obama, I wondered how she knew.

          • http://cowboybyte.com/ Alondra

            Because you are STUPID as he is and a RACIST as well.
            So why are you surprised?
            – What are you saying?
            – Oh, your lacky boob666 earned the carrot from you.
            He must be very happy as ALL his “13 generation out of 14”.

          • Jeff

            You are really crazy. Besides, I thought you wanted only Putin’s carrot.

          • http://cowboybyte.com/ Alondra

            And WHOSE carrot you want?
            The Kenyan Illegal RESIDENT’s-Travesti?

          • WTS/JAY

            Well, since Jeff’s hero, Gore Vidal the pederast, is dead, Obama will have to do. Daaang!

          • Bob666

            Jeff,

            Do you think that she has even the tiniest clue as to just how psychotic & neurotic she actually is?

            Truly Coo Coo for Cocoa Puffs!

          • http://cowboybyte.com/ Alondra

            What surprise, the LibTards are changing the TRUE meaning of the words. . The TRUTH they call rudeness and
            nastiness.

            It’s NOT for you to talk about respect. First learn WHAT it is, carl.

            You are right about one thing: THIS site is not for the Mentally PERVERT and deranged like you and your ilk.

            “The look on THEIR FACES TESTIFIES AGAINST THEM, and THEY PARADE THEIR SIN like SODOM; THEY DO NOT HIDE IT. Woe to their soul! THEY HAVE BROUGHT DISASTER UPON THEMSELVES.” (Isaiah 3:9)

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            Then why don’t you act like one? God-given right of freedom of speech, as is written in the 1st Amendment of the Constitution. Here is an article about Obama bin Laden.
            http://www.freedomoutpost.com/2013/08/barack-obama-bypassing-congress-working-to-unilaterally-impose-taxes-on-cell-phones/
            FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
            You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot. This leaves you out.
            “I have therefore thought it fit and…do hereby appoint Thursday…a day of public Thanksgiving and praise…Hereby calling on ministers and people…to assemble…and…join so rational and delightful an exercise…rendering to God the tribute of praise for His unmerited goodness towards us.”
            John Hancock
            September 16, 1790
            1st Signer of the Declaration of Independence
            Devout Christian
            *BTW, why don’t you address everyone, not just Alondra?

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            LIes, lies, lies. Do you remember, “…unalienable rights, endowed (BLESSED) by their Creator (GOD), of these are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness…?” The Declaration of Independence says that all our rights come from God and not men. Ergo, you have fallen flat on your face with that bald faced lie. The first 10 Amendments are God-given rights, now quit showing your ignorance and study a lot more. Here is a site that proves you wrong.
            http://www.faithfacts.org/christ-and-the-culture/the-bible-and-government
            The first principles talked about is the sovereign authority of God, not men or the state. Look at all the documents where you can find this and all the places in the Bible that backs it up. Looks like our Christian founding fathers used the Bible a lot in creating this great nation, traitor. Why are you on this thread? Don’t you have something else you should be doing or do I have to talk to your boss and have you fired? FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
            You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot. This leaves you out traitor.
            “There are no atheists in fox holes.”
            Samurai

          • http://cowboybyte.com/ Alondra

            Oh, you STILL SQUEAKING FILTHY MANURIAL
            FLY.

          • Jeff

            On the surface, she would appear not to like you very much. But deep down, maybe she thinks you resemble Putin – just a little!

          • Bob666

            Yo Jeff,

            Yes and she thinks that you resemble Obama? Together, you and I are the two hottest men in her tormented & feeble little mind.

            I don’t know about you -but that scares the hell out of me!

            Coo Coo for Cocoa Puffs!

        • Jeff

          I am curious about one thing. Maybe it’s the old psychology student in me wondering about what goes on in a “mind” such as yours, but why would you think telling me I look like Obama would be an insult? He happens to be younger than me and a little bit thinner, plus they tell me he’s quite handsome. So, maybe I should be pleased except for the fact I know the source of the “compliment.”

          • http://cowboybyte.com/ Alondra

            Jeff, I’ll satisfy your curiosity.

            You ask: “what goes on in a “mind” such as yours, but
            why would you think telling me I look like Obama would be an insult? He happens to be younger than me and a little bit thinner, plus they tell me he’s quite handsome.”

            Here is my answer as a psychologist, who worked in the court evaluating the Psychopaths and Maniacs’ behavior (for 12 years) to “the old psychology student”.

            1) ONLY stupid ignoramus will evaluate human personality by “look”.

            2) Each one has own standards of the “handsomeness” and “beauty” regardless of the age. I am sure you have YOURS. With age the MAJORITY (far not all) men and women become more “handsome” and “beautiful” because they become wiser/ knowledgeable/ intelligent/ astute/ prudent.

            3) For me the Kenyan Fraud is ugly outside (his outer)
            and inside (his inner is diabolical). He is an EVIL. And evil ALWAYS ugly.

            It’s up to you to take the comparison as “compliment” or otherwise. It depends solely on your values, principals, education and “likes”.

            For me a man should be a MAN – talk as a MAN, walk as a MAN and not like a Travesti with the penis and the breast.

            For me MY father was an example of the human been “beauty”: as a MAN, Father, Brother and Friend.

            “Do NOT LOOK AT HIS APPEARANCE or at his physical stature, because I have refused him. For the Lord does not see as man sees;[a] for man looks at the outward appearance, but the Lord LOOKS AT THE HEART.” – 1King 16:7

            P.S. Now feel free to criticize my English (as a third language)

  • trugrits

    it is so true that common sense has been replaced with belief in propagandized phony interpretations to take our rights away will save us all.

  • WTS/JAY

    JUDGE SCOLDS DEMS FOR IGNORING CONSTITUTION…Calls election-rigging schemes ‘both sad and, frankly, shocking’…

    A series of bills passed by Colorado Democrats in the state legislature hit a snag last week after a judge berated the lawmakers for ignoring the state’s constitution.

    “Writing an election law so clearly non-compliant with the state constitution,” Denver District Judge Robert McGahey said in a ruling, “I find that both sad and, frankly, shocking.”

    The judge’s rebuke was made in reference to a 126-page bill passed by the Democrats under the guise of “election reform,” but as the bill was being debated, it became apparent to some that the real purpose of the bill was to enable Democrats to win elections.

    Among other things, the bill requires all elections to be conducted by mail-in ballot and allow for same-day registration. The bill also eliminates residency requirements so state residents can go anywhere in the state and vote.

    Republican Secretary of State Scott Gessler warned the Democrats that the bill is a disaster waiting to happen and there was no need for it, as Colorado was one of the few states that increased voter turnout in 2012. Gessler and his office were never consulted about the bill.

    Gessler says that while the idea of mail-in ballots being sent to every voter may sound noble, the system is ripe for abuse by groups wanting to pressure formerly inactive voters.

    “During the last election, over one million Coloradans discarded their ballots, preferring instead to vote in person,” he explained. “Under the proposed law, voters will get a ballot even if they don’t want one or have any intention of voting.”

    He suggested that policy would open the door to intimidation: //www.wnd.com/2013/08/judge-scolds-dems-for-ignoring-constitution/#Pp86bGgUOPuVyqRc.99

  • rbrooks

    you claim the problem in this country, is that there are too few like you, bob.

    the public disagrees.

    • http://cowboybyte.com/ Alondra

      WHAT Public???

      • WTS/JAY

        The voices in his head.

    • WTS/JAY

      No, the problem is that there’s too many whackos like you, rbrooks; and i’m sure most here would agree.

      • http://batman-news.com samurai

        True that! True that! FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
        You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot.

        • rbrooks

          sons of the american revolution.

          will you be joining us?

          lol.

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            You, a patriot? Ha, ha, ha, ha! Thanks for the laugh as I needed it. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
            You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot. This leaves you out.

          • WTS/JAY

            When you said “patriot”, rbrooks thought you meant “parrot”. That’s why he squawked for some crackers.

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            Actually, I thought he was speaking chicken. You know,
            buk, buk, buk, buk, buk, buk, barrrrrack!
            buk, buk, buk, buk, buk, buk, barrrrrack!
            FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
            You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot.

          • rbrooks

            you ridicule the sar?

            or just those who have fought for this country.

          • rbrooks

            does this mean you will not be joining.

            didn’t think so.

      • rbrooks

        the public, the vast majority of the public, disagrees with you.

        • WTS/JAY

          You dare disagree with me, your leader? How dare you?You leave me no choice but to punish you, my son. I shall therefore place a hefty surcharge on all your porn consumption. Sorry, but this is for your own good.

          • Jeff

            But what constitutes porn? For many here, nothing could be more erotic than Dickens’ descriptions of 19th Century poverty. DaveH would love to lord it over all those with no money, holding the power of life and death in his creepy little hands. What’s a bare breast compared to that?

          • WTS/JAY

            Jeff: But what constitutes porn?

            Good point, my son. Which reminds of what a great philosopher once pondered; “It depends on what the meaning of the words ‘is’ is.” They tried to impeach him to, but weren’t successful. I see you have studied his works, my son. It shows…!

    • http://batman-news.com samurai

      I think that it is way past time for you to be taking your psych medications. You are a disgrace to this country and to all it stands for. Here is something that describes your ilk to a “T”.
      http://www.americanvision.com/9086/big-business-big-government/#sthath.ccNlWguH.dpbs
      FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
      You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot. This leaves you out.
      “Profaneness and blasphemy are offenses, punishable by fire and by imprisonment. Christianity is a part of the common law.”
      James Wilson
      Lecture on Law, Chap. 6
      SCOTUS Justice
      Signer of the Constitution
      Devout Christian

    • doktor don

      That would be a correct response. May I add that if we knew where ole’ Uncle Bob got his money for his, “dog & pony show;” we’d know clearly who he, “fronts,” for. Yet, it is not Rocket Science – – don’tcha know. A good place to start would be the, “Crock,” (Koch) Brothers from Kansas.

      • http://personalliberty.com/ Bob Livingston

        Dear doktor don,

        You write: ” May I add that if we knew where ole’ Uncle Bob got his money for his, ‘dog & pony show;’ we’d know clearly who he, ‘fronts,’ for.” Not that it’s any of your business, but the money for the “dog & pony show” (argument to ridicule) comes from my pocket. If you spent time reading for comprehension rather that spouting off talking points fed you by your collectivists masters, you might realize that. If you can find any evidence of a link between PL and Koch brothers, please present it. You won’t, because there is no link.I wouldn’t give them the time of day if they called me, not that they would. So the question becomes, who’s funding you and your nonsense?

        Best wishes,
        Bob

        • doktor don

          That’s a relief! Now . . . if we can find a way to, smarten you up, some: you might be salvageable. Seems like there were several other Posters, that thought your commentary was, none to keen!

          • WTS/JAY

            Fight on, my warrior. Don’t worry, I gotch your back, dog!

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            How can you smarten someone up while being so less intelligent? Here is an article about your “messiah” Obama bin Laden.
            http://www.lastresistance.com/3011/obamacare-gets-to-go-forward-with-changes-to-destroy-people-financially/
            Here is one about people like you.
            http://www.westernjournalism.com/a-reminder-of-what-dangerous-lunatics-obama-supporters-are/
            FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
            You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot. This leaves you out.
            “Resistance to tyranny becomes the Christian and social duty of each individual. Continue steadfast and, with a proper sense of your dependence on God, nobly defend those rights which heaven gave, and no man ought to take from us.”
            John Hancock
            History of the United States of America
            Vol. II, pg. 229
            1st Signer of the Declaration of Independence
            Devout Christian

          • http://personalliberty.com/ Bob Livingston

            Dear doktor don,

            You write: “Seems like there were several other Posters, that thought your commentary was, none to keen!” That is always the case. There are a couple of reasons for that. First, the truth is sometimes difficult to confront… even for those seeking it. Second, there is a group of Obamabots from the Obama campaign and the DNC paid to come here and disrupt rational discourse. I suspect you may be one of them.

            Best wishes,
            Bob

          • doktor don

            Sorry Bob; just a 35 year, betrayed Republican, who recognized that something was terribly wrong; when, the Bush Great Recession began. The Great Wall Street Heist; also served as a wake-up call! Have done extensive research; which has revealed the Republicans are NOT who they say they are. As for working on behalf of the Democrats; don’t insult my intelligence! Both Parties are corrupt and rotten to the Core! Think Moral – – Third Party; Think Term Limits; and Think getting Big Money out of Elections. More later.

    • WTS/JAY

      No, the problem with this country is that there are too many wackos like you and doktor ding-dong; and i’m sure most here would agree!

      • doktor don

        Ha! Ha! Ha! If only U had, even, half a brain. Don’t quit your Day Job any time soon; if, you even have one! U weren’t even close in your impersonations. Grow a pair; and, come out of the shadows – – the Truth won’t bite, much! But; I might ripe you a new one; for being so gullible; and, stupid! Want respect? Earn it! and, treat others with respect!

        • WTS/JAY

          As the adage goes, doctor Ding-dong; at least i have a brain. Ha ha ha ha,,,but seriously, how long have you been a racist?

  • Jim B.

    Ignorance breeding ignorance breeding ignorance. Life (independence), liberty (freedom), and the pursuit of happiness (free thinking) is no longer the nations call. BHO, and his minions and serfs are succeeding. When we fall the world will collapse.

  • Michael Shreve

    In my experience, most people JOYOUSLY abandon common sense. There are FAR more laws than necessary. The Framers tried to codify common sense in the U.S. Constitution but WE THE PEOPLE have negligently ALLOWED the Constitution to be abandoned as well.

  • WTS/JAY

    Dearest Citizen of the World,

    I believe the time has come to reveal to you some of the perplexities you have faced in recent decades. It is well for you to understand some of these things so that you might know how to behave in the New Order now taking shape on the earth. We want you to be able to become fully involved and integrated into our new society. After all, this is for your best interest if you will do.

    First of all, it is well that you understand some of our purposes so that you may more fully co-operate. I cannot tell you the hard times you will face if you resist us. We have ways of dealing with resisters. I am only telling you this now, since it is much too late to turn things around. The days of putting a stop to us have long since past. We have full control of the earth and its finance, along with the major media propaganda, and there is simply no way any nation or power can defeat us.

    State secrets are fully known to us. China recently accused the media in the U.S. of lying about Kosovo. Oh, you silly people, of course we lie*. In this way we can keep the people unbalanced and always facing controversy which is very helpful to us. Have you not seen the talk show spectacle? Some of you believe we are the liberals and the good people are the conservatives. In reality, both serve our purposes. Each camp merely serves with the stamp of our approval but they are not allowed to present the real issues. By creating controversy on all levels, no one knows what to do. So, in all of this confusion, we go ahead and accomplish what we want with no hindrance.

    Consider the President of the United States. Even though he regularly breaks every known check on his power, no one can stop him. He goes ahead and does whatever we want him to do anyway. The Congress has no power to stop him.

    He does what we want since he knows if he does not, because of his rather dark character, we can have him removed in a moment’s time. Is not that a rather brilliant strategy on our part? You cannot take us to court because you can’t see us and the courts are our servants as well. We run everything, yet, you do not know who to attack. I must say this hidden hand is wonderfully devised and without any known historical precedent on this scale. We rule the world and the world cannot even find out who is ruling them.

    This is truly a wonderful thing. In our media we present before you exactly what it is we want you to do. Then, as if in a flash, our little servants obey. We can send American or European troops to wherever we like, whenever we like, and for whatever purpose we like, and you dutifully go about our business. How much more evidence do you need? We can make you desire to leave your homes and family and go to war merely at our command. We only need to present some nonsense to you from the president’s desk or on the evening news and we can get you all fired up to do whatever we like. You can do nothing but what we put before you.

    YOUR VAIN RESISTANCE

    When any of you seek to resist us, we have ways of making you look ridiculous as we have done with your militia movement. We have delighted to use this movement to show the world how impotent any resistance is. They look so silly marching around with their guns as if they were some match for our military. Look at what we did near Waco. Did the Davidian’s little store of weapons help them? We have generously taxed you and used that money to make such sophisticated weapons you can in no way compete. Your own money has served to forge the chains we bind you with, since we are in control of all money.

    Some of you think you may escape by buying some land in the country and growing a garden. Let me remind you that you still pay us ground rent. Oh, you may call it property taxes, but it still goes to us. You see, you need money no matter what you do. If you fail to pay your ground rent to us, we will take your land and sell it to someone who will pay us. Do you think we cannot do this?

    And with your ground rent we pay for the indoctrination of your children in the public schools we have set up. We want them to grow up well trained into the system of our thinking. Your children will learn what we want them to learn, when we want them to learn it, and you pay for it through your ground rent.

    Those funds are also used for other projects we have in mind and our contractors are paid handsomely for their work. You may doubt that we own your children, or have such control, but you will find that we do. We can declare that you abuse your children when you spank them and have them confiscated.

    If they do not show up for school indoctrination, we can accuse you of neglect, thereby, giving them to us. Your children are not yours. They are ours. You must inoculate them, you must bring them to our hospitals if we decree or we will take them from you. You know this and we know this.

    Through our electronic commerce we are able to see where you are, what you are buying and how much you have to buy things with. Where do you suppose we come up with our monthly financial statistics? Through the Internet and other sources we can even know how you think and what you say. It is not especially important to us what you believe as long as you do what we say. Your beliefs are nonsense anyway*. But if you think you have a following, and we perceive that you might be somewhat dangerous to our agenda, we have ways to deal with you.

    We have a Pandora’s box of mischief with which to snare you. We can have you in court so long you will never get out. We can easily drain away all your assets over one pretext or another. We have an inexhaustible fund with which to draw from to pay our lawyers. These lawyers are paid by you in the form of taxes.

    You do not have this vast supply of wealth. We know how to divide and conquer. Have we not brought down rulers of countries through our devices? Do you think your tiny self will be any match for us?

    YOUR VAIN ORGANIZATIONS

    And, let us consider your religions and the “moral majority.” The “moral majority” is neither moral nor is it in the majority. We have delighted to use this wet noodle of a movement to make ridiculous the bibleian faith. The silly men who run that organization always end up with egg on their faces*. We have always put them in defense of themselves as we have so successfully done with the NRA. We can make it seem by our media propaganda that the National Rifle Association is actually the New Radical Attackers.

    Have we not turned the American conservative movement on its ear? If it serves our purposes we can use the conservatives to turn the liberals on their ear. It makes no difference to us but it serves to make you believe there are two sides struggling for their particular position. This helps to make things seem fair and free since everyone has a voice. Actually, there is only one side now with all kinds of masks on, but you are unable to penetrate our purposes.

    You see, we can do whatever we like and you can do nothing about it. Does it not seem reasonable that you simply obey and serve us?* Otherwise, you get eaten up in the resistance you suppose will liberate you.

    You cannot be liberated. Imagine how you can. We supply your fuel for your cars. We can turn it off whenever we like claiming that there is some sort of fuel shortage. What if your car breaks down? You cannot get parts for it without us. We supply all the money you use. At any whim of our desire we can stop the money supply or cause a complete crash all together. We can then order the president to declare all money worthless and that we will have to have new money. All of your stashes of cash will go up in smoke in a moment’s time.

    Don’t you need food? If necessary, we can cause a trucker’s strike which would stop deliveries of food to your local store. We can starve you whenever we like. You only have food because we have provided it to you from our table.

    During the great depression we controlled the food. We heaped mountains of food behind fences and let it rot. The hungry were then made to work in our labour camps even though there was enough and more to feed them. Do you really think you can beat us? You say you will hoard gold coins so you will still have money in the time of the crash. We can simply pass a law which outlaws the possession of gold as we have done in the past. If we find gold in your possession, we would simply confiscate it and put you in prison for breaking the law.

    While in prison you would be required to work in one of our prison industries. We have so formed a picture of the labour camps in our prisons these days that no one seems to object to them. We tell people that murderers should pay for their own keep.

    No one seems to consider that we have the power to put tomato growers there also. We can pass laws that prohibit gardens and then make up some scientific reason why you may only buy food from our sources. If someone sees you growing tomatoes, they will report you to us and then we will have you in our fields working for us. Oh, silly nationalists, there is no escape for you, for since long before you were born, we were planning your capture. Your teachers and ministers have been forming your thoughts for us for generations now. You have no idea how to pull out of our influence short of suicide. Go ahead and commit suicide, it will only help us to deal with the excessive population. You cannot hurt us, find us, or even imagine what we are up to.

    I am throwing you these few crumbs only so that you may, if you have a little good sense, obey and follow our orders.

    YOUR CONTROLLED MIND

    We run Hollywood. The movies such as Terminator and Armageddon, along with a great host of others, were simply created to get you thinking according to our directions. You have been made to delight in violence so that when we send you off to kill some bad man we have put before you, you move without a whimper.

    We have placed violent arcade games in your malls to prepare your young minds in the art of battle. We have made you to view our armies and police as the good forces and you submit to things that were unthinkable just a few decades ago. Our artful programs, are all designed to help you submit and even help the New World Order.

    Star Trek, and other such creations, have taught you to simply obey orders from the new international rulers. Oh, silly people, you thought you were being entertained, while you were actually being educated. Dare I use the words, “brainwashed” or “mind control?” By the way, have you seen the new Star Wars?

    What a masterpiece of mental manipulation. Humans confer with nondescript beasts of all shapes and sizes and they confer in English. I wonder where those space beasts learned English. Oh, the simpleness of the mind of the citizen. He never considers he is being taken into fairyland. We have placed advertisements for Star Wars almost everywhere you go. You will find them in Wal-Mart, K-Mart, Taco Bell and a host of our institutions of commerce. There is something we want you to learn from this movie. Or, perhaps it could be said, there is something we do not want you to learn, from Episodes 4-6. Either way, we will have what we want in the whole affair.

    For a full explanation of, and the reason why “they” don’t want you to learn from episodes 4-6 of the Starwars films, please study the “Starwars, fact not fiction” Booklet at http://jahtruth.net/starwar.htmor send £1 Sterling or $2 US plus postage, for a printed copy of it, to the address at the end of this article.

    Of course, to keep you off guard we have instructed our elected officials to appear to be correcting the evil of our violence. President Clinton is now speaking against violence in Hollywood movies. This will not solve the problem, but will only make the people believe the problem is being worked on. Sex and violence are the very best powers to use to help us gain our advantage. How the people loathe to give up their sex and violence, so we place all they want before them. In this way, we keep them so occupied they do not have the integrity or brain power to deal with the really important matters which are left entirely in our hands. President Clinton has been very helpful to us. We knew of what character he was before we placed him as president. Exposing him was very helpful in adjusting the moral habits of the youth downward. This is to our advantage.

    Even more agreeable to us were the vain efforts of those who thought they could remove him against our will. He is useful to us and he will not be removed by anyone until we are ready to have him removed. Excuse me if I seem to be mocking your system of beliefs, but they are rather outdated. Have you no eyes to see your vain liberties and your righteous pontifications are nothing before us? You can only do what we say you can do. We remove presidents when we are ready and the leader we set up will be there until it serves us to have another.

    At that time we place our proposed leader before you and you vote for what we want. In that way we give you the vain voting exercise in the belief you had something to do with placing your president in office.

    We use the nations for what we want to use them for. Everyone knows that they must yield to us or die. Fortunately, we have had a few resisters such as Saddam and Milosevic that have been helpful in showing the world leaders what we will do to them if they do not submit.

    There is only glory in following our purposes and doing what we say. If one does not, there will be such a sad and tragic result. I would really have you spared of such an end. But, then, again, if you are not spared, it is of no consequence to us. We will use you to alleviate some of the overpopulation problem.

    YOUR SILLY REBELLION AGAINST OUR DOMINION

    Some of you have thought you could stop us by placing a bomb in one of our abortion clinics or in a government building. Silly souls! How can that hurt us?

    All that does is give us an example to use so that we might place more controls and heavy burdens on the population. We love it when you rebel and blow something up. You are our reason for making more laws against all those things which might contribute to your freedom from us. If someone did not blow something up on occasion, we would have no justification in placing more hedges about you. Can’t you see how impossible it is for you to resist us? The more you wriggle, the more we squeeze.

    Our kingdom is the kingdom of money. Excuse me, but I must confess that we are the rulers of the kingdom of non-money. You must see the humour in that statement. We have given you a piece of paper or some numbers on a computer screen that we have termed money. It is backed up by nothing and proven by nothing but what we say it is. We create it from nothing, we print it, we loan it, we give it its value, we take its value away. All things that have to do with money are in our hands. Think of it, what is it that you can do against us without money? If you try to resist, we can cancel your credit or freeze your accounts. Your cash is easily confiscated. We have made so many rules in the realm of living that you cannot live without money.

    Camp on government land and you must move in two weeks. You cannot grow much of a garden in two weeks. Many of our wilderness trails are entered by permit only. We have passed laws that do not allow you to live in trailers over a certain period without moving to another location. Have you not thought it ridiculous that we will allow a man to live in a box full time but we will not allow a man to live in an RV full time unless he is in a taxpaying campground?

    OUR UNFATHOMABLE MYSTERIES

    We observe no laws when it comes to war. We do what we want, when we want and where we want. We can starve nations to death, we can ruin civilians and any other horror for which we would take our enemies to court. Look at our example.

    We bomb bomb whoever resists us out of their wits, bomb their homes, poison their rivers and streams, turn off their electricity making a grand crisis in that country, and then we masterfully make it appear it is all the leader’s fault and he needs to go to court for it. It is the same way we made our inferno at Waco look like Mr. Koresh’s fault. Then there was our chief villain, Saddam with all of his weapons of mass destruction. Bad men are a dime a dozen and we can conjure one up whenever it suits us. This is really quite funny when you think of it. I am not one who is usually given to humour, but I do catch myself laughing sometimes at the absolute absurdity of the notions we place before you and you readily accept.

    Do you wonder that the leaders of the world tremble at our presence? They know they have no power except the power we give them. We have no fear of Russia or China for we are already in full control of their system of things. China knows that we can freeze any number of its corporations in America and all of its capital at the stroke of a pen.

    We want you to be in the system. When you are buying a house, we not only receive the tax revenue to use for our purposes, but we gain large increases from the interest on the loan. You may pay for your house two or three times over from the interest alone. The interest is also taxed which is again placed for use in those sectors of influence we choose.

    We do not want you to escape free and that is why we have made it as we have. You are our property. We will not permit you to buy or sell unless you submit to our mark of authority*. If you go to court against us, we will wear you out there and in the end you will lose. If you use violence, we will end up having you in one of our labour camps, more specifically called prison industries. You need our money, our entertainments, our fuel, and our utilities to function and if you don’t have them, you feel deprived. By this, you are made to yield to our will.

    Sincerely,

    Barrack Hussein Obama

    • Charlie

      BHO,,, Thanks for your advise ,,, I’ll check with YO YO to find out IF? you’ve been approved by his group… Meanwhile “”We”” will continue to Praise King Jesus for Salvation and Healing… Acts 2:38 is salvation…

    • doktor don

      That would be a, “Da;” or, “Come again?” Have no idea what the meaning is, of this pointless, “babble.” No book or screen play, here; so, once again, don’t quit your Day Job. Will go easy; since some of the stuff is kinda funny; and, while it reflects some pretty low level thinking; it contains a kernel of innocent naivety; which brings a smile to one’s face. Get a grip; you will be fine – – Mr. President.

      • WTS/JAY

        You belong to me, dr. Gong…who’s your daddy, boy?

      • Libertarian58

        Wow, I can see the brainwashing has worked quite well on you, keep the blinders on. Try reading “The Pr0t0c0ls 0f Zi0n” or “The Unseen Hand” and you will see the evidence of the above. Only the signature is wrong. A better one might be Barron Rothschild

        • doktor don

          . . . whatever!

          • Jeff

            What else is there to say to someone as deluded as L58? The Protocols? He might as well cite Jules
            Verne as the basis for his opposition to the concept of global warming.