The Criminal Regime Wants You To Feel Government Shutdown Pain

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Federal Government Shutdown closes the Statue Of Liberty..

The Barack Obama regime is proving to be the most arrogant, narcissistic, petty, malevolent, insidious, baleful, sinister and criminal regime in U.S. history. The regime’s use of the so-called government shutdown (which isn’t really) has exposed its sophistry and mendacity for all to see.

Across the country, in an effort to make Americans feel the “pain” of the government’s furlough of 800,000 “non-essential” personnel because the government has ostensibly run out “money,” the regime is spending “money” employing rangers from the National Park Service to shut down, barricade and guard open air monuments, park roads and hiking trails. It’s even happening in parks that are privately run but are on Federal land.

A group of World War II veterans on an Honor Flight visit to the Washington cesspool to visit the World War II memorial showed their contempt of government “barriers” by pushing them aside and ignoring armed goons who were there to harass and intimidate them out of the area. Their actions are an apt metaphor for how Americans should treat all of the barriers the psychopathic elected class and their bureaucratic enablers have raised in an effort to drive the republic into a collectivist “utopia.”

Obamacare — or, if you want to call it by its doublespeak name, the Affordable Healthcare Act — is just such a barrier. It is also anything but affordable and is in reality a socialistic deathcare system of destruction and graft.

House Republicans, for a few hours at least, appear to have developed a spine and are making a stand to kill the Obamacare monster that is devouring the U.S. economy at a rate far exceeding what the Federal Reserve was capable of.

Whether they are in for the long haul is anybody’s guess. It will be a difficult slog against a headwind of mainstream media propaganda, an ignorant and sound bite-driven populace and a criminal President with the power of an all-consuming government at his disposal. Americans should follow the lead of those octogenarian veterans, push aside the park barriers and thumb their noses at the enforcers. And then they should send letters or make phone call of support to Representatives — and to their Senators as well.

It’s obvious that since Obama shut down the government and so few people outside the MSM seem to have noticed, his regime is doing all it can to bring a level of pain and suffering to anyone it can reach. The reality is that government could and should be shut down until at least $1 trillion is whacked away. Few people outside of the cesspool would notice if not for MSM caterwauling.

A revolution began in the 18th century over a series of taxes and abuses by the government far less than what Americans are currently suffering under. Are Americans finally waking up?

Personal Liberty

Bob Livingston

founder of Personal Liberty Digest™, is an ultra-conservative American author and editor of The Bob Livingston Letter™, in circulation since 1969. Bob has devoted much of his life to research and the quest for truth on a variety of subjects. Bob specializes in health issues such as nutritional supplements and alternatives to drugs, as well as issues of privacy (both personal and financial), asset protection and the preservation of freedom.

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  • Calvin Jamerson

    Amen and…AMEN!!! It is time for a second revolution or maybe just a split with the psycophants that comprise over 50% of the population. How did we EVER elect this fool once let alone TWICE?

    • B

      Amen brother!!! I honestly don’t remember things being this bad before and obviously numbers speak for themselves but I’m also talking about the blatant attack on our liberties, the divisiveness, education of our children!!! Stay strong, aware, forthright and God give us the wisdom to turn things around before its too late!

      • Paul

        B, Amen, buddy. The sad part about everything that is going on in our nation and our world is that it is supposed to be this way. We can’t stop it unless the entire world gets on their knees. It was written in the Bible and it is coming to light right before our eyes. The agony and pain is only starting. Hold tight to God and don’t let go! The day is near that we will be crying tears of blood due to the suffering that is to come. Glory to God and I pray He is merciful!!

        • Calvin Jamerson

          Amen, but we must continue to be salt and light until that time.

    • B
    • rbrooks

      were you referring to reagan or little bush

      • hippybiker

        America can survive a petty little creep like O-Bozo. What we can’t survive is the low information voters who put him and Slum Lord Valeria Jarrett in charge.

        • rbrooks

          those same voters elected bonzo and little bush twice.

          • Ricarrdo estavans

            The Obamatollah could not shine The great Reagan’s shoes.

          • Calvin Jamerson

            Actually, this is about ALL he could do.

          • Bill

            Great comment, Ricardo
            Obama is a coward and Reagan was a true leader. He was also a supporter of capitalism, that’s why the progressives try to re-write history to fit their hatred

          • Ricarrdo estavans

            Bill TY

          • rbrooks

            the liberal democrat reagan? the man who built the actors union into the strongest union in the country? the man who legalized abortion 7 years prior to roe. as president he raised taxes 7 times. he raised the debt limit 11 times. he brought us the first trillion dollar debt. he was the originator of the borrow and spend policy. the original author of nafta. backed one world order.

          • Barakolips

            The perfect man for the job of shining shoes would be rbrooks, he has vast experience at boot licking in his favor already.

          • Ricarrdo estavans

            so eloquently written.

          • Vigilant

            …yet so unimpeachably true.

          • Calvin Jamerson

            Liberals come in two flavors…ignorant and/or evil!

          • Bill

            R,
            Now your comments are just becoming dumb. Maybe you should find a different site that caters to your intelligence level. How about Sesame Street

          • rbrooks

            i am aware that you are unable to keep up with the discussion.

          • Bill

            There is no discussion with you R
            Go back to Sesame Street

      • Ricarrdo estavans

        The bushs and obammy are the same. They are all beholdin to the federal reserve. Obammy came into office worth about $100,000 in four and a half years he is now worth at least 20 million. He must be smarter than warren buffet or more corrupt.

      • Calvin Jamerson

        I am referring O-Bummer, and you should know it. If you don’t the. May God bless you with good sense…you need it

      • Bill

        R,
        Your comments are becoming so juvenile.

      • ltbl123

        No see how confused you are? The current president with a very small “p”. If you would like to meet him go to any prestigious golf course you will find him there.

  • dan

    I NEED a picture of a WW2 veteran giving Zeroe a one finger salute !
    God Bless America and the men and women that keep her free…
    despite the smarmey posers and politicians that pretend to serve us but only
    serve themselves.

  • Ronr

    Over 50% of America , over 50% of America was wrong. Yeah right!! 50 %of America is wrong versus the 2% of wing nuts that will never elect a person to national office? And please no Ran Paul jokes because most cam see him for what and who he truely is. The son of Ron Paul.

  • rbrooks

    you are losing what little support you ever had bob. there are several country’s that currently have the lack of govt that you demand. perhaps you and calvin can share a flight to start your new govt free life.

    • http://personalliberty.com/ Bob Livingston

      Dear rbrooks,

      You write: “you are losing what little support you ever had bob.” Our growing subscriber base and increasing view count indicates that is not the case. Thanks for your concern, however.

      Best wishes,
      Bob

      • rbrooks

        where are those stats dear bob. i see fewer comments, made by a shrinking number of id’s.

        • http://personalliberty.com/ Bob Livingston

          Dear rbrooks,

          Again, your concern is noted, but your fears are unfounded.

          Best wishes,
          Bob

    • Ricarrdo estavans

      Many people, myself included do not want a total elimination of any government. Just the bloated phony baloney non essential government workers. I support Bob.

      • rbrooks

        so you are ok with all of the corporate welfare, farm subsidies, foreign aid, immigrant subsidization, the two little bush wars, the expense of the never ending reagan war on drugs, etc.

        • Ricarrdo estavans

          No. I believe the Federal Reserve (which owns most if not all the major corporations) should be abolished and America should go back on the gold/silver standard, If a corporation/bank/General Motors cannot make it on its own, too bad, Go bankrupt and reorganize. The same with the corporate farms. No foreign aid either, especially to our enemies which Obammy is so fond of doing. Also Obamster wants to flood this country with illegals and future dumbocrap voters. All of whom will be on Obamatollah care. Most if not all wars are instigated and funded by the bankers. WW1 dumbocrap Woodrow Wilson, WW2 Dumbocrap Roosevelt, Korea, Dumbocrap Truman, VietNam, Dumbocraps Kennedy/Johnson. Kosevo, Dumbcrap Clinton. Oh one more thing, ALL drugs should be decriminalized.

          • rbrooks

            those programs you list have been supported by the gop for a very long time.

            nam and korea were pushed for the same reasons as the two current wars.

            you seem to have over looked where the funding for these wars came from and who passed those funding bills.

            like most of those on this site, you blame the democrats for what both party’s have done.

            it is no wonder so many of you are confused. you keep voting the same old crooks into office and then complain when you get the same old results.

          • Ricarrdo estavans

            Nixon was a corrupt skumbag, Gerald Ford helped cover up the Kennedy assassination, The Bush family is a murdering crime family. The reason I blame the dumbocraps is besides all those Presidents I mentioned, the congress and the senate and the Supreme court has been CONTROLLED for the better part of the last hundred and tens years by the dumbocraps. The Repubics went along to get along, You know a bridge funded here, a road funded there.etc. Both parties are (not all members just enough) controlled by the Federal Reserve bankers.

    • Bill

      Rbrooks,
      If you don’t like Bob’s comments, you should not read them

      • rbrooks

        or, i could read them and post a comment of my own. you know freedom. but, on this site, not everyone is allowed to read or post comments.

        personal liberty for just a few?

        • independent thinker

          “… but, on this site, not everyone is allowed to read or post comments. ”
          And your proof is??????????????????

          • rbrooks

            comment policy

            We reserve the right to remove comments at our discretion.<

            guess you missed that.

          • independent thinker

            Mr. Livingston’s right to remove comments does not prove he has removed them simply because he doesn’t like them. In fact if your premise were true we would not be having this conversation because you would not be allowed to post here.

          • rbrooks

            he has the right to remove any comment. but he is not going to be able to sell that as freedom for all.

            he has removed more than one of my posts in the past.

            i am sure he will do so again.

            i am fairly certain he removed my comments simply because he did not like my comments.

            personal liberty, eh.

          • independent thinker

            As Mr. Livingston told you above provide proof. and simply claiming it has happened or could have happened is NOT proof.

          • rbrooks

            your are not much of thinker are you. the very fact that he can, is all the proof required.

          • http://personalliberty.com/ Bob Livingston

            Dear rbrooks,

            You write: “he has removed more than one of my posts in the past.” I do not believe this is so. If it is, it is because you violated the comment policy.

            You write: “i am sure he will do so again.” If they violate the policy.

            You write: “i am fairly certain he removed my comments simply because he did not like my comments.” To paraphrase: It’s not that you know so little, it’s that you know so much that is wrong (or made up).

            Best wishes,
            Bob

          • ltbl123

            Excellent point!

        • ltbl123

          Go ahead and read them…we just don’t want you to suffer.

        • Nadzieja Batki

          Playing victim. Tsk, Tsk, poor little rbrooks.

    • some guy

      Rbrooks,
      Your incompetence and prickery knows no bounds

      sincerely,
      everyone

    • http://www.facebook.com/marilynmanson.richardson Marilyn-manson Richardson

      what day does your check come in rbrooks, or were you there in the Mcdonalds shirt for your 15 bucks….idiot

      • rbrooks

        where is sammyeye. argument to ridicule.

    • Nadzieja Batki

      You are stupid, there are no countries with no government.

      • rbrooks

        speaking of really stupid. you should learn to read.

        • Nadzieja Batki

          Like I said, there are no countries with no government. If there a two people there is government as each person establishes their place in the pecking order.

  • 4lifeandfreedom

    Senator Ted Cruz’s dad said it all in an epic speech he made about growing up in Cuba. His words echo what is going on in America today under the hate America “leadership” we have.

  • Warrior

    Dear “progressives”, you have made an absolute mockery of OUR goobermint and OUR Country.. It is time for us to rid ourselves of all of you. You really want to know why the “progressives” cut NASA? Because it was a source of national “pride”. Clearly, under “progressive RULE”, national “pride” is evil.

    All the “progressive’s” feigning about they are the ones who want to help the “poor”. Understand this. Under socialism, almost everyone becomes “poor” except for the “rulers” and their cronies! And this is exactly where we are headed.

  • Ricarrdo estavans

    I am sort of relieved the government is shut down. Keep it shut for at least a year and lets see if anyone relevant notices.

  • Ricarrdo estavans

    I haven’t noticed the “government” is shut down. Did you?

  • Ricarrdo estavans

    Bob Livingston is a great writer and patriot.

    • http://personalliberty.com/ Bob Livingston

      Dear Ricarrdo estavans,

      Thanks for your kind words.

      Best wishes,
      Bob

  • Ricarrdo estavans

    Re-establish Freedom in America! Keep the “government” shuttered.

  • Ricarrdo estavans

    rbrooks appears to be an uninformed, ignorant individual. A fool wont listen to reason and a wise person doesn’t need to.

    • http://www.thefreedomtrainusa.com/ FreedomTrainUSA

      Every time that Liberal Robots like…rbrooks…Open their mouth…THEY SHOW EVERYONE JUST HOW STUPID THEY ARE…Of course liberals are so stupid that they do not realize how stupid they really are…IF YOU THINK THAT A LIBERAL IS A FOOL…WHEN THEY OPEN THIER MOUTH THE PROVE THEY ARE FOOL…OVER AND OVER AND OVER…

  • TIME

    My Dear People,
    Yet again the clear picture of the criminal enterprise noted as:
    “The UNITED STATES, Inc.” has displayed its contempt of all Americans.
    Or perhaps better said: { YOU – the GOYM. }
    The farm animals these special people all feel you all are.
    Oddly yet they still want what ever small amount’s of wealth you may have, all taken Illegally by way of an Illegal laws that are both Pernicious, as well Rapacious.
    All the while telling YOU the people that your below them, – and yes, oddly they have rewritten the laws to make it that way starting in 1871, all the while your still thinking ~ they work for you.
    As I keep telling you its all an “”Illusion”” what you all think you know is little more than last weeks Bovine Waste.
    People we are now well over the 12% of all Americans that understand what I just posted.
    As well most all Americans, as in well over 60% ~ know that something is very wrong, but these are what are noted as “Fence Sitters,” they will sit by until there is not other way out, then they will act.
    My Good People that’s why the puppet Criminals in the Criminal City State of the District of Columbia “FEAR YOU.”
    By Hook as well by Crook, they still have not been able to disarm you, thus they can’t totally enslave you, well that is as of yet.
    That aside we still are a nation in captivity, and if we don’t stand up soon and address this issue face on, we will be a nation in “100% Total BONDAGE.”
    *** By the way: sadly Voting will not fix this problem now.***
    For you mindless sheep that can’t understand, what it means to all of us, its the total loss of all our FREEDOMS.
    Or perhaps better said ” COMMNUSIM.” NWO style.
    Now for a few facts again: The Affordable Health care act is based on the program started in German in 1938, called the ” NAZI T 4 program”, as a matter of fact its the very blue print for not only BARRack O’Bama care, its also Hillery Care.
    And yes it was invented by non other than Margret Sanger, of whom Adolf Hitler just loved.
    All sold by way of the Master of modern Propaganda that warm fuzzy, Edward Bernays, yet again someone whom ADOLF HITLER LOVED.
    Hitler even made note of his love of Bernays in his special book not unlike BARRack O’Bama’s special books that bare a striking resemblance to Hitler’s works.
    But for the illiterate’s who follow BARRack O’Bama or any of the other Criminals who reside in the City state of DC, that’s a hard pill to swallow.
    By the way My Good People, do any of you know where the Social Security idea came from?
    Yet again we must visit our special German friends, but we will start with Field Marshall Paul von Hindenberg, yes that was his idea, but it was implemented by that ever so very special guy we all know as Mr. Nice guy, Adolf Hitler, and yet oddly here in the US by who again? Oh yea, FDR.
    My Good People, I beg you to start learning the TRUTHS and spreading them so as to bring the average person out of their slumbers.
    We don’t have long so please again I beg you start with this quest soon.
    This is not a game, there will be no do overs once the IRON FIST comes down for the last TIME.
    Peace and Love, ** Please get straight with Jesus Christ,** and please do that soon.
    PS: By the way no war was ever fought because GOD said so,
    ALL wars have been fought in the name of “the MAN of the Moment” who has used GOD in an improper manor to further their agenda.
    Thus YOU must ~ Place the blame where it should be, on MAN thinking he is GOD.
    Hold no man, nor idol, nor symbol above GOD, and what have all nations done?
    What is a Flag, its a Symbol.
    What is atop that flag pole, yes, that’s right a IDOL,
    Whom do we fight for again? For the “MAN OF THE MOMNENT.”
    Thus clearly we have fought all wars for MAN’S Glory not GOD’S.

  • Rb

    I wonder if Michelle O’bama’s 80+ personal assistants have been considered “non essential” and furloughed. Can her majesty function without all that help? Yea right!

    • smilee

      Interesting but Laura Bush holds the record and she only had 29

  • Alex

    Dear Bob Livingston,

    You lose more credibility by the day. Get some help.
    Thanks for providing us with this forum.

    Regards, Alex

    • http://personalliberty.com/ Bob Livingston

      Dear Alex,

      You write: “You lose more credibility by the day.” No. It is bolstered by your continued responses. Thanks so much. I understand that stark truths are difficult to accept.

      Best wishes,
      Bob

      • rbrooks

        the stark truth is that you do not have the support to pass any of your ‘opinions’ thru the legislature. you are not getting enough politicians elected to make any difference.

        i can see how the stark truth is difficult for you to accept.

        • Larry

          rbrooks,

          “The Barack Obama regime is proving to be the most arrogant, narcissistic, petty, malevolent, insidious, baleful, sinister and criminal regime in U.S. history.”
          HE GAVE YOU THE STARK TRUTH!

          • rbrooks

            obama is just another in a long line of crooked politicians.

            that would be the stark truth.

          • ltbl123

            Perhaps you meant dictators Lenin, Stalin, Hitler ect. It’s a good fit. He’s dictating right now. Dictators never compromise they dictate.

        • http://www.thefreedomtrainusa.com/ FreedomTrainUSA

          rbrooks…YOU WOULD NOT KNOW THE TRUTH IS IT HIT YOU SQUARE IN THE FACE…

          • rbrooks

            what an emotional response. you must be a liberal.

        • ltbl123

          Perhaps if the mainstream media gave us a forum that would allow dissenting views to be heard, some of the less interested voters would be enabled to see just how much propaganda is disseminated under the guise of news reporting. The truth is a pretty small voice while the liberals shout at the top of their lungs into microphones held to their lips by a fawning and complicit media.

          • rbrooks

            the conservatives are shouting at the top of their lungs as well.

            you keep blaming one group. stop complaining about the results.

          • ltbl123

            I don’t blame one group… I blame the entire deceptive idea that every problem be it economic, moral, or personal has the same solution. That we as individuals must divorce ourselves of our intelligence, our physical abilities,our freedoms, and our responsibilities and place them at the feet of the State. Our government was founded on the principle that the freedoms we have were endowed upon us by the God who created us, and these freedoms were outside the authority of the State to take away from us.
            The founders further believed that WE THE PEOPLE needed a Constitution for one specific purpose to defend us, not just from the enemies outside our borders, or the enemies inside our borders, but from our own government. Our government is supposed to be the servant of the people. Not the other way around.

            Our Constitution is about placing limits on the abuse of power by the government. It is being ignored by the majority of all of our elected officials and even the courts. However the Constitution despite the assaults against it is still the supreme law of the land. if the people lose their moral compass and decide to surrender their freedoms for a free meal, or free health care or anything else government offers… the burden rests with those few who are willing to stand up and say you cannot take away my freedom because it doesn’t belong to the government it belongs to me and every other human being that desires it and strives to defend it for themselves, and even for the fools who have no understanding of what they are giving away.

      • http://www.thefreedomtrainusa.com/ FreedomTrainUSA

        Liberal do not have CRITICAL THINKING SKILLS…Only EMOTIONS THAT ARE TRIGGERED BY SET RESPONSES BY THEIR ELETIST HANDLERS…

        • Substance

          Critical thinking is stimulated by effective practice. Read your statement again for punctual accuracy.

          • http://www.thefreedomtrainusa.com/ FreedomTrainUSA

            What are you talking about…as your statement makes absolutely NO SENSE AT ALL????
            Read my statement again to get the REAL MEANING…

    • Larry

      Alex please take the time to read “Rules for Radicals”, then you will understand.

      • http://www.thefreedomtrainusa.com/ FreedomTrainUSA

        Alex Can’t Read…He spent to long in the Pubic Indoctrination Centers….Where the 3 R’s were not taught…because they only thing they do is INDOCTRINATE IN THE RADICAL MARXIST SOCIALIST AGENDA….To turn out BRAIN DEAD LIBERAL ROBOTS…

        • rbrooks

          another emotional argument to ridicule. you have been well trained by your leftist handlers.

          • http://www.thefreedomtrainusa.com/ FreedomTrainUSA

            I am an ULTRA CONSERVATIVE…so what is your problem?????
            And what LEFTIST HANDLERS ARE YOU BUBBERING ABOUT???….THEY ARE YOUR LEFTEST HANDLERS
            Take your LIBERAL BABBLE TO A SITE THAT LIKES THAT TYPE OF BS…

      • Nadzieja Batki

        Larry, the Dem/Progs/Leftists have been steeped in Alinsky covertly or overtly. Don’t let us underestimate their cunning.

    • Bill

      Alex,
      You are welcome to not read this site if it offends you so much

      • rbrooks

        we are equally free, and welcome, to read the comments on this site. tho we are not equally free to comment.

        that says a lot about the version of personal liberty being touted here.

        • http://personalliberty.com/ Bob Livingston

          Dear rbrooks,

          You write: “tho we are not equally free to comment.” That your lie remains demonstrates that it is indeed a lie. You are subject to the comment policy and treated as is everyone else. If you can provide evidence that this is not the case, please do so.

          Best wishes,
          Bob

          • rbrooks

            the fact that you decide whom may post, and what they may post, is all the evidence required.

            you can try to sell it as freedom. you complain when the politicians do the same. they try to sell it as freedom as well.

            simply because you are a much better version than the crooks in washington, does not equate to true freedom.

          • http://personalliberty.com/ Bob Livingston

            Dear rbrooks,

            You write: “the fact that you decide whom (sic) may post, and what they may post, is all the evidence required.” Anyone can post who so desires. The comment policy is designed to ensure the discussion remains intelligent and cogent and doesn’t devolve into belittlement and disparagement. It is unfortunate that this requirement puts collectivists, statists and progressives at a disadvantage, but that is your (and their) problem, not mine.

            I remind you that you come here of your own volition. You are free to come and go at your pleasure. You have not been censored. Your only requirement is to observe certain rules of decorum. If those rules are difficult for you then you should do yourself a favor and find another place to play.

            Best wishes,
            Bob

          • rbrooks

            that cd rate must have been too much for ya, eh bob. it beats that whole life you have been trying to sell.

            you realise that they are more than a few misguided folks in this country that would invite you to find another country to play in if you find their rules too difficult. kinda works both ways.

            btw- you do allow quite a bit of that belittlement and disparaging comments. tho i am not advocating you remove any of it. it is amusing to read.

            it is interesting problem you have bob. you have to put up with me or prove me right by removing me from this site.

            i do enjoy our little exchanges.

            you have yourself a great day, bob.

          • Wake Up

            Did you really read what Bob said? I have pasted and copied it: You are welcome to not read this site if it offends you so much. That’s the problem with so many people they take the words and twist them to meet their agenda…such does the Obama Administration and all of his followers. So yes, you have proved this statement true.

          • rbrooks

            you must be a big supporter of the patriot act.

          • Bill

            R,
            You must be a big supporter of invading Syria

          • http://www.thefreedomtrainusa.com/ FreedomTrainUSA

            rbrooks….for someone who tells the lie that his Freedom to Post on this site and what he can post is infringed upon…you certainly have posted enough OUTRIGHT LIBERAL GARBAGE on here..
            EXPAIN TO ALL OF US HOW YOUR FREEDOM AND RIGHTS HAVE BEEN INFRINGED UPON??????

        • Bill

          R,
          Bob has more class than you have in your big toe. You should learn something from him

        • Nadzieja Batki

          rbrooks, and now you are playing VICTIM, ‘ that nasty old PLD site is picking on poor little ole me’.

          • http://www.thefreedomtrainusa.com/ FreedomTrainUSA

            ALL LIBERALS ARE VICTIMS ALL THE TIME…THEY DO NOT KNOW HOW TO NOT BE A VICTIM….DUE TO PR-PROGRAMING AND LACK OF CRITICAL THINKING SKILLS….

        • Bill

          That’s the saddest story I ever heard

        • Nadzieja Batki

          You don’t do very well playing semantics. You may need to look into what “personal liberty” means.

          • http://www.thefreedomtrainusa.com/ FreedomTrainUSA

            LIBERTY FOR LIBERALS…means that the Government will provide all of their needs…including free cell phones…from the time they are born until the government says they must die…Liberals must be Pre-Programed for what to say and do…Since they are not equipped with the ability to think for themselves..

        • TheOriginalDaveH

          By “we”, rbrooks, do you mean you and your other personalities?

          • http://www.thefreedomtrainusa.com/ FreedomTrainUSA

            Like Flashy I wonder how many aliases “rbrooks” has???

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            It’s likely that rbrooks is a Flashman personality.
            Have you read this one?
            http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/52923

            Dave is a Shill also, but I don’t know if he has any other personalities. It’s likely though, as that is their modus operandi — to appear as if their numbers are stronger than they really are.

      • http://www.thefreedomtrainusa.com/ FreedomTrainUSA

        ALEX…Take your LIBERAL BULLS**T to a site that loves your Utopian Fantasy Land Crap…

        • Bill

          Good comment, Free

          • http://www.thefreedomtrainusa.com/ FreedomTrainUSA

            If these Liberals do not like what we have to say on a Conservative Site….THEY ARE FREE TO LEAVE AND NEVER COME BACK…

          • rbrooks

            well, if you don’t like the way this country is run, you are free to leave and never come back.

          • http://www.thefreedomtrainusa.com/ FreedomTrainUSA

            rbrooks.,,,
            SINCE YOU ARE THE ONE THAT BROUGHT UP THE SUBJECT OF LEAVING THE COUNTRY…NOT ME…YOU ARE STILL FREE TO DO SO…YOUR DICTATOR AND HIS REGIME HAVE NOT STOPPED YOU FROM LEAVING… YET….SO PLEASE DO US A FAVOR AND DEPART AS SOON AS POSSIBLE TO THE COUNTRY OF YOUR CHOICE…

            IN CASE YOU ARE WONDERING I DO NOT TAKE LIBERALS SERIOUSLY…WHAT I DO DO IS HAVE FUN WITH THEM AND THEIR WACKY UTOPIAN IDEAS….AND THEN HAVE A REAL GOOD LAUGH AT THEM AND THEIR STUPIDITY….LOL

          • rbrooks

            poor little baby. can’t take it.eh.

            or are you just to broke to afford to leave. bet that is the problem.

          • http://www.thefreedomtrainusa.com/ FreedomTrainUSA

            I AM NOT CRYING…I AM HAVING A GOOD LAUGH AS I TYPE… AT THE TOTAL STUPIDITY OF THE THINGS YOU SAY…AS FAR AS CAN I AFFORD TO LEAVE OR NOT…IS NOT AN ISSUE…SINCE I AM NOT THE ONE THAT WANTS TO LEAVE…YOU MUST WANT TO LEAVE AND CAN’T…SO YOU ARE PROJECTING YOUR WANTS ON OTHERS…IT APPEARS THAT YOU ARE NOT OLD ENOUGH TO UNDERSTAND WHAT LIBERTY MEANS…YOUR SOUND LIKE A WET BEHIND THE EARS LITTLE KID THAT NEEDS TO HAVE MOMMY HOLD YOUR HAND…YOU NEED TO GO BACK TO YOUR VIDEO GAMES AND LEAVE THE REAL ISSUES TO THE MATURE ADULTS IN THE AUDIENCE…BY YOUR IMMATURITY THAT YOU SHOW…I AM PROBABLY OLD ENOUGH TO BE YOUR GRANDFATHER…

          • smilee

            That is probably true as there are more conservatives on welfare than liberals.

          • Don 2

            Source?

          • smilee

            US gov records show red states have many more people on welfare, most are also right to work states with many have very low wages and that is why. red states have many more poorer people. This is no secret and well known and accepted so it is funny you have to ask.

          • Don 2

            You stated specifically, “That is probably true as there are more conservatives on welfare than liberals.”

            Again, I repeat, “Source?”

          • smilee

            It is all on the government webs sites look it up, wait I already gave you that source. Silly you, is your memory bad??

          • Don 2

            You obviously cannot back up your B.S. with facts.

          • Vigilant

            He NEVER does.

    • Vis Fac

      Alex In La La Land strikes again. Credibility to you is measures by how much BS lame stream media fill your empty head with. As long as you don’t have to think it’s “credible”

      Living in denial (not the Egyptian River) shield you from anything rational or real so in your own little La La Land anything would seem “incredible”!!

      Libertas inaestimabilis res est
      Semper-Fi

    • Nadzieja Batki

      Alex, why are you on this site showing us that you have not credibility day by day?

  • flashy

    Reading the Comments and Articles the past few days, its beyond doubt why the Tea Party, American Taliban, and fringe Libertarians are referred to as. ” the crazies”.

    If y’all don’t like this nation, why try and destriy it? Just gi someplace which accepts your insanity. oh wait, there is no place that would.

    • Bill

      Flashy,
      You are part of the problem and not the solution

      • http://www.thefreedomtrainusa.com/ FreedomTrainUSA

        FLASHY HAS THE MENTAL DISORDER…CALLLED LIBERALISM….HE IS BRAIN DEAD….

        • Vis Fac

          The clinical term is cerebrally necrotic.

          Libertas inaestimabilis res est
          Semper-Fi

          • http://www.thefreedomtrainusa.com/ FreedomTrainUSA

            In the Psychiatric Community they really do call Liberalism a Mental Disorder…There have been REAL STUDIES done that show that there is a difference in the ACTUAL BRAIN AND BRAIN WAVES an Average normal American versus someone who has Extreme Radical Liberal Political Views….Just as with other mental disorders that alter the brain…Long time .Liberalism has a Real affect…

        • TheOriginalDaveH

          More than you know, Train.
          Here Bob caught the multi-personality whack job at his shenanigans:
          http://personalliberty.com/2011/05/16/what-now/#comment-839455708

          • http://www.thefreedomtrainusa.com/ FreedomTrainUSA

            Dave…That is a good one…

    • Cole Johnson

      It would be great if obama and his crazy followers would leave America, since they hate it so much!

    • Barakolips

      You and your kind are going to be the ones leaving in the end, where I do not know, but you will be gone.

    • TheOriginalDaveH

      What “insanity” is that, you multi-personality whack job?
      You mean we’re insane because we won’t willingly let you bend us over and poke us in the rear?

  • Sue Breslin

    “A revolution began in the 18th century over a series of taxes and abuses by the government far less than what Americans are currently suffering under. Are Americans finally waking up?” This last statement says it all. WE NEED TO START A REVOLUTION. or are we just too comfortable and lazy in our ways to really care. When will America wake up….when you are all sequestrated in FEMA camps …too late then. The time for action is NOW. I have a heart condition, and 62 years old, but I will still pick up a gun and fight. Thanks Bob Livingston for keeping us informed and being a PATRIOT! LET FREEDOM RING

  • mark

    the liberal obamacrats are a discrace to our country

    • TheOriginalDaveH

      Are there two marks?

      • Bob666

        Must be, or one serious case of Schizophrenia.

  • mark

    TED CRUZ 2016

    • Bill

      Look into Jesse Ventura, Mark
      He is fiscally conservative, socially liberal, a great leader and could unite a lot of the voters

    • ltbl123

      How about Ben Carson?

  • http://www.thefreedomtrainusa.com/ FreedomTrainUSA

    Lets keep this SO CALLED SHUT DOWN in place for at least the next FEW MONTHS….This will COMPLETELY EXPOST THE DICTATOR AND HIS REGIME…ALONG WITH THE REST OF THE D****RATS…FOR WHO AND WHAT THEY ARE…LYING DECEPTIVE FRAUDS….

    It will Expose the NARCISISSTIC DICTATOR FOR EVERYONE TO SEE…

    It will Expose the DEATH CARE TRAIN WRECK FOR EVERYONE TO SEE…

    It will expose the D****RATS IN CONGRESS AS THE DANGEROUS BUT USELESS FRAUDS THAT THEY ARE…INCLUDING THEIR DANGEROUS AGENDA…

    • ltbl123

      This horrible unbearable shut down encompasses about 15% of the government services. 85% is still being funded. The shutdown will not last very long because the media spin will continue to blame the Republicans day and night for the shut down. A few Republicans will stand fast but those who are afraid the labels will stick will cave. Too bad because if the shut down lasted the majority of the citizens would discover that very few of us would miss the 15% of unfunded services at all.

      • http://www.thefreedomtrainusa.com/ FreedomTrainUSA

        The pressure must be kept on the Republican in the House…too hold the battle line an not give in to the Dictator and Dirty Harry and the rest of the D****RAT Thugs…

        • smilee

          They will fold, they have no choice or risk the wrath of the country on them.

      • ltbl123

        You don’t get it. When the completely unaffordable health care act was PUSHED through at least 1/2 this nation and their elected Senators had no voice. It was shoved down the American peoples throat without consent or apology. De-funding this assault on our freedoms from an out of control government should be one of the top priorities of ALL elected officials, sadly only an honest few have showed the courage to exercise their right to defend our freedom. Freedom is well hated by the collective, but thank God for those who accept the price of defending it. It is not their fault it is their badge of HONOR!!!

        • TheOriginalDaveH

          Who is going to shoulder the burden for Obamacare?
          http://finance.yahoo.com/news/health-care-laws-success-rests-040100677.html

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            You gave a detailed explanation? Wow, you mean I missed you actually trying to do something other than childish manipulation?
            Shill Dave, if you’re happy to subsidize that effort then you didn’t need to Force your way on other people, did you?
            You care about others, yet you Force others to pay for what you desire? Such compassion.
            If your system would work, Shill Dave, then why don’t you Liberal Progressive Charlatans form a voluntary co-op and show us how it’s done? You certainly don’t need to Force others to join a system that works.
            The Taliban are Forcers, Shill Dave. Liberal Progressives are Forcers. You are like peas in a pod, Shill Dave.

        • TheOriginalDaveH

          Shill Dave says — “Most people want universal background checks, ban “assault” rifles, waiting periods for guns too”.
          So Shill Dave, if the majority of people voted to kill all the Blacks, would that make it okay?

          Shill Dave says — “I don’t see the Dems holding the country hostage to put forth new gun safety laws”.
          Holding the Country hostage? Since when do Liberal Progressives constitute the “country”, Shill Dave?

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            Actually, the number of Americans blaming the GOP has fallen dramatically since the last shutdown (1995).
            But, as you know, the GOP is just the other side of the Progressive coin. They, like you are attempting to do, have both conducted themselves as a political tag team to keep the citizens from learning the real truth — that they both work for mostly the same masters (Rothchilds, Morgans, Rockefellers, etc.).
            Intelligent readers will see right through your childish manipulative tactics, Shill Dave, and the ignorant ones — well, you already had them.

        • ltbl123

          Dave if you are a member of the American Taliban be very careful because the NSA and the DHS are deeply interested in your activities. Trust me if the Democrats had the popular support to disembowel the 2nd amendment through legislation, the American gestapo agents (DHS) would be pounding on your little Taliban door to take a peek and see if you might have a weapon of minor destruction hiding in a closet just waiting to break out and assault someone. The Democrats really don’t have to do anything. They passed the AFFORDABLE health care act without popular support. All they need to do is let the Dictator in chief and John Kerry dismantle the 2nd amendment through treaties and executive orders (dictates). Neither one of them has any more regard for the Constitution than the toilet paper they wipe their collective rectums with. I’m sure you concur. This is all liberal progressive Marxists AKA Democrats and nobody else.

        • TheOriginalDaveH

          What Shill Dave doesn’t seem to get is that both actions (Gun Control or Mandatory Healthcare Insurance) are Forcing Good People to do things they don’t want to do. In other words, both actions involve Liberal Progressive’s Trespassing on the rights of people who have not harmed anybody.

      • Nadzieja Batki

        New catch phrase for the Dems/Progs/Leftists “extremists in the GOP”.

        • TheOriginalDaveH

          Yeah, and the majority of people score below the 60th Percentile, Shill Dave. Are you proud of being in that group?
          Actually the majority of people wanted the Supreme Court to abolish Obamacare:
          http://hotair.com/archives/2012/03/26/two-new-polls-show-majority-want-supreme-court-to-overturn-obamacare/

          Ron Paul on Obamacare:
          http://www.ronpaul.com/on-the-issues/health-care/

          • smilee

            Then why did the re-elect Obama giving him veto power so he could make sure it isn’t abolished. They by the election said other wise. Polls show 75% did not want the government shut down over it. Does not sound they are all that against it.

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            First I have to interpret your comment, Sleepee, then I need to figure out how to explain it to you. Can you make it any harder on me?
            Funny, but I don’t recall the Obama supporters explaining the reasons for their votes. And if they did, I wouldn’t understand ebonics anyway.
            As far as the majority not wanting a Government shutdown — Yes, the Government has done a very good job at brainwashing the people. That’s why we’re here — to wake them up.
            If the new Republicans can hang tough for a month or two, the people will see just how little we need the Federal Government.

          • smilee

            Simple minds do have comprehension problems so it is easy to understand that you would have this problem. Winning an election is getting the approval of the electorate to get the job and with the job goes the right to veto laws. Simple for most but it is too deep for you.Dream on silly as your stupid wish will not come true, Enjoy the dream as you will wake up to find out that is all it is.

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            The people also elected the Republicans who are working to stop the Federal Government from wasting more of our money. So what’s your beef, Sleepee?

          • smilee

            True but they also gave the democrats more power so they are chitt out of luck. They are just plain stupid and not doing anything you say they are doing.

    • Bill

      The funny thing to watch would be how stupider and stupider the arguments would get for not shutting it down
      Pretty soon they will start telling us that the shutdown will make women uglier and that their men would no longer be able to watch football

      • Vis Fac

        You epitomize what the impact of the liberal one dimensional indoctrination camps that produce the functionally illiterate. “stupider” is not a real word but one that’s made up by the functionally illiterate NEA teachers who then pass it off as teaching .

        The proper vernacular would be more stupid. I’m sorry you didn’t have access to a quality education as this is liberal tenet to keep people dumbed down.

        Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I have seen some very attractive women but most due to their attitudes are truly ugly people. The saying that beauty is merely skin deep might be true but ugliness goes all the way to the bone.

        Libertas inaestimabilis res est
        Semper-Fi

        • Nadzieja Batki

          Don’t bite and scratch the ones who belong to us, Force Recon.

        • Bill

          The last time I was in school was 1965. I think you missed my point, Force
          The arguments that the left are using to tell us that the sky is falling because of the shut down are becoming more juvenile. And the longer the shutdown stays in effect, the more stupid the lies will become.

          • Vis Fac

            I did mis your point you sarcasm went over my head just as facts and reality do to liberals. You have effectively demonstrated liberal one dimensional Idiot-ology to tell lies the more outrageous the more THEY believe their own lies.

            BTW I Graduated several years before you at least you received a good education 1970 was the last year to obtain a quality education the NEA took over then things went south in a hurry. I still attend School as it is necessary to retain my PE license should I want to use it.

            Libertas inaestimabilis res est
            Semper-Fi

          • Bill

            Force,
            No harm, no foul. I wish you the best, Force

          • Kyana McCoy

            Speaking of sarcasm you looked in the mirror lately?

          • Vis Fac

            I Like what I see in the mirror Do you? When I look in the mirror I see a successful patriot who knows reality from fantasy one who embraces my God given freedoms a man who is virtuous and respectful of what our forefathers did for this nation.

            You only see a timid little boy cowering behind the government because you are afraid to fend for your self and shoulder personal responsibility.

            I pity you and those of your ilk for being weak and cowardly

            Libertas inaestimabilis res est
            Semper-Fi

          • Vis Fac

            You see everything as funny I see you ad pathetic you want attention so you make inane statements to garner the attention you crave. You get the wrong kind.

            As usual you have comprehension problems I do not advocate anarchy I advocate returning to constitutional law . I realize to you liberals this means anarchy because it is a polar opposite of your philosophy

            As a footnote Anarchy would be much better than what we have now for a government.

            Now go back under your rock

            Libertas inaestimabilis res est
            Semper-Fi

          • Kyana McCoy

            Now see that is what I am talking about.. I’ve been fending for myself since eleven years old. Worked steady and hard all my life. You just hate you don’t know why….

          • http://www.thefreedomtrainusa.com/ FreedomTrainUSA

            LOOK WHO HAS BEEN TAKING HATE…ALL THROUGH OUT THIS …

          • http://www.thefreedomtrainusa.com/ FreedomTrainUSA

            I Do not now exactly when you served our Nation…But I send A BIG THANK YOU…

          • Kyana McCoy

            You scare me… I can’t picture your attitude serving this country. I can see your attitude serving more of a NAZI sort of style.. In your face this is how it is now accept it or else…

          • http://www.thefreedomtrainusa.com/ FreedomTrainUSA

            YOU APPEAR TO BE A WET BEHING THE EARS…THAT HAS NOT GOT A CLUE OF WHAT IS HAPPENING IN THIS COUNTRY….YOU HAVE NO CLUE WHAT THE TERM “NAZI” EVEN MEANS…IT IS JUST ONE OF THE MANY TERMS THAT YOU LIBERAL BOTS THOW OUT….STUDY SOME REAL HISTORY OF THE HITLER AND THE NAZI REGIME…NO THIS REVISIONISM CRAP THAT IS PUT OUT THEIR AS FACTS…WHEN IT IS NOTHING BUT LIBERAL DISTORTIONS TO FIT YOUR AGENDA…
            AND BEFORE YOU LIBERALS WHO DO NOT KNOW THE FACTS…I HAVE STUDIED THIS AND MUCH MORE HISTORY FOR OVER 50 YEARS…I WAS AN ADULT DURING THE VIETNAM WAR…SO I KNOW FIRST HAND WHAT TOOK PLACE…SO DO NOT GIVE ME ANY OF YOUR PHONY CRAP ABOUT THIS…BECUASE YOU WILL BE DOING NOTHING BUT BLOWING HOT AIR..

          • Vis Fac

            DUMB A$$ DAVE . I don’t need convincing of who and what I am Apparently you do because only the insecure like you assign labels and abase others.

            Liberal one dimensional dogma has its inane hooks in you so deep you are afraid to wonder outside for fear of seeing the light.

            Now go back under the rock you emerges from and amuse yourself as no one would want to acknowledge your existence let alone know who you are.

            We all know what you are and knowing so don’t want to know who you are.

            Libertas inaestimabilis res est
            Semper-Fi

          • Vis Fac

            DUMB A$$ DAVE . I don’t need convincing of who and what I am Apparently you do because only the insecure like you assign labels and abase others.

            Liberal one dimensional dogma has its inane hooks in you so deep you are afraid to wonder outside for fear of seeing the light.

            Now go back under the rock you emerges from and amuse yourself as no one would want to acknowledge your existence let alone know who you are.

            We all know what you are and knowing so don’t want to know who you are.

            Libertas inaestimabilis res est
            Semper-Fi

          • http://www.thefreedomtrainusa.com/ FreedomTrainUSA

            LIBERAL HAVE BEEN PRE-PROGRAMED…THEY ONLY KNOW AND CAN DO WHAT HAS BEEN PROGRAMED INTO THE CAVITY WHERE THE REST OF US HAVE A BRAIN…WITH CRITICAL THINKING SKILLS

        • Kyana McCoy

          So what is your point here? Every one knows that Repubs represent the upper class while the Liberals crawl out of the gutters… You an ex-marine or just an asswipe?

          • Kyana McCoy

            Actually I don’t think you would be acceptable in the military if I were picking our soldiers.

          • Vis Fac

            Why don’t you behave like an adult are you afraid that you won’t measure up?

            Libertas inaestimabilis res est
            Semper-Fi

          • smilee

            Interesting coming from a child!!!

          • http://www.thefreedomtrainusa.com/ FreedomTrainUSA

            It so appears that the only CHILDREN on here are all of you PAID LIBERAL TROLLS….Real Adults do not insult people by calling then names…and DO NOT INSULT OUR MILITARY AND VETERANS…THESE PEOPLE GAVE THEIR SERVICE AND SOME THEIR LIVES…TO PROTECT THE FREEDOM THAT GIVE YOU THE RIGHT TO SPOUT OFF THE WAY YOU DO…I TAKE ALL OF YOUR STUPID COMMENTS WITH A GRAIN OF SALT…AND HAVE A GOOD LAUGH….BUT I TAKE OFFENSE WHEN YOU DEMEAN OUR MILITARY AND VETERANS…

          • smilee

            For christ’s sake grow up!!!!!

          • http://www.thefreedomtrainusa.com/ FreedomTrainUSA

            “Little smilee” IS SHOWING MORE ANGER WITH EVERY POST…NOW HE US ALSO USING GOD’S NAME IN VAIN…

          • smilee

            Well, if it makes you feel better just “GROW UP”

          • http://www.thefreedomtrainusa.com/ FreedomTrainUSA

            Liberal are real Nice…WHEN THEY INSULT OR VETERANS AND MILTARY….If not for our Brave men and women in Uniform….YOU WOULD NOT HAVE THE PRIVILEGE TO COME ON HERE AND MAKE YOU STUPID REMARKS….I TAKE YOUR STUPID REMARKS AND HAVE A GOOD LAUGH….BUT WHEN YOU VERBALLY ASSUALT AND DEMEAN OUR MILITARY AND VETERANS….I DO TAKE OFFENSE TO THAT…
            AS YOU STATED…THE ASSWIPE IS YOU…

  • ltbl123

    I’ll bet.

  • Vis Fac

    True to form of the delusional liberal. Deaf and dumb in both eyes to the point of grandstanding and manipulating perceived threats while pontificating on nothing of substance.

    Blurbs like “This democracy has already rejected your views” “and small business renews” and “you are responsible for the shut down” and “anarchist extremist factions” and the like sound like desperation speaking. This cow knows full well what she spoke of came from HER camp yet lays off blame on those “anarchists”

    Liberals will stop at NOTHING to ruin the US

    Libertas inaestimabilis res est
    Semper-Fi

    • TheOriginalDaveH

      Shill Dave says — “Liberals gave us the end of slavery”.
      Really Shill Dave? You could have fooled me. Working nearly half the day to fund Government busybodies is hardly what anybody sane would call Freedom.

      Shill Dave says — “Liberals gave us ………….SS, Medicare”.
      Thanks for reminding us, Shill Dave, that Liberal Progressives think they know best how to spend other people’s money.

      • TheOriginalDaveH

        Is Adolescent Manipulation the best you can do, Shill Dave?
        If we shrank the Government to the Libertarian-desired size, the Politicians would no longer be able to support Crony Capitalists or any other kind of blood-suckers (like Liberal Progressives).

        • TheOriginalDaveH

          Is that the best you and your boiler-room assistants can do, Shill Dave? I didn’t make any of those quoted statements. Show me a single comment of mine that matches any one of your quoted claims.
          You, Shill Dave, are a desperate agent trying everything in your Power to silence me. I must be having quite an impact for you and your people to focus so heavily on me. Thank you for the compliment.

      • http://www.thefreedomtrainusa.com/ FreedomTrainUSA

        Liberals Freed the Black Slaves…..NO…They just moved them from the Southern Plantations…TO THE GOVERNMENT PLANTATION….

        • TheOriginalDaveH

          Another good point. Keep it up, Freedom.

    • Kyana McCoy

      “Liberals will stop at NOTHING to ruin the US” You are right. Don’t care much for your core beliefs and will never accept them as law. You ain’t seen a Liberal til you’ve looked down the barrel of a shotgun.

      • Vis Fac

        And you have? I’ll bet all that you’d run like a coward at any trouble let alone look down the barrel of a shotgun. I invite you to show me your shotgun and what you’re me made of.

        Libertas inaestimabilis res est
        Semper-Fi

        • http://www.thefreedomtrainusa.com/ FreedomTrainUSA

          And the reason Liberal want to Confiscate ALL our guns….Because they are AFRAID THAT THEY WILL BE LOOKING STRAIGHT INTO THE BARREL OF A GUN…

  • mark

    “The Barack Obama regime is proving to be the most arrogant, narcissistic, petty, malevolent, insidious, baleful, sinister and criminal regime in U.S. history.” What a ludicrous and exaggerated statement, Bob. Compared to the early administrations that supported slavery, Indian massacres, and land robbing – later to to be followed by nearly a century of Jim Crow? Compared to the Polk administration that robbed by force and violence half of the national territory of Mexico? Compared to the McKinley and Theodore Roosevelt administrations that invaded and annexed Puerto Rico and the Philippines in the latter case in a war that led to the death of 200,000 Filipinos? Compared to the Johnson and Nixon adminstrations that prosecuted an elective and unConstitutional war in Southeast Asia that cost some 4 million Vietnamese and Cambodian lives. Compared to the George W. Bush administration that prosecuted an illegal and unConstitutional war in Iraq based on lies about non-existent Weapons of Mass Destruction and false connections of Saddam Hussein to the 9/11 attacks that led to the deaths of 165,000 Iraqis? And the Obama government (not a criminal regime, Bob), is worse than all of them because they closed down some monuments and parks due the failure of the Republicans to pass a continuous resolution funding the federal government? Please. You’ve topped yourself this time, Bob with absolute inanity.

    • TheOriginalDaveH

      Blah, Blah, Blah, Blah.
      You can cite past wrongs all day long, mark, and they still will never add up to right, no matter how hard you immoral, pushy, thieving Liberal Progressives try.

      • mark

        Original Dave, how can anyone take Mr. Livingston serious after he writes the over-the-top, ahistorical statements that he does here? They are flat out ridiculous and the historical record proves it. Parks and monument shut downs are the most monstrous crimes in U.S. history? You do know something about Americxan history, don’t you? Our treatment of the Indians, African Americans and of Japanese-Americans during World War II. By the way, calling people you don’t even know immoral and thieving is argumentum ad hominem, exactly what you criticize others for. And citing what people have to say as Blah, Blah, Blah, is argument to ridicule. What exactly did I write that is historically incorrect? I don’t call your constant parroting of whatever the Von Mises Institute puts out as blah, blah, blah. I don’t agree with the majority of Von Mises writings but I would not characterize them as blah, blah, blah. Those are the kind of responses that children make in an argument.

        • smilee

          I think you could be right as they have far to many propaganda sites to reference for an individual person to collect without a staff.

          • http://www.thefreedomtrainusa.com/ FreedomTrainUSA

            smilee…SINCE YOU BROUGHT UP THE TERM PROPAGANDA….BEING IT IS SUCH A BIG WORD….DO YOU KNOW WHAT IT MEANS….DEFINE IT FOR THE CLASS????

          • smilee

            Sure it is a story made up that is not true to feed the biases in people like you and in your case it worked!! SUCKER!!

          • http://www.thefreedomtrainusa.com/ FreedomTrainUSA

            What Little smile can’t define the word PROPAGANDA….SO HE IS NOW RESORTING TO THROWING A TEMPER TANTRUM AND NAME CALLING….YOU REALLY DO NEED HELP…

        • NObama_Holder_Reid_Pelosi_2012

          If it reminds you of a pyramid scheme then why do you spend so much time coming back to it. Do you really have nothing better to do with your miserable life than to spend time on things you think are a scheme? If you don’t believe in it or consider it educational and reduce it to nothing more than a scheme, then what does that say for your character to keep coming back after you have identified as a scheme.

          • http://www.thefreedomtrainusa.com/ FreedomTrainUSA

            Liberals are Pre-Programed…They do not think for themselves..

        • NObama_Holder_Reid_Pelosi_2012

          Lets see over-the-top statements? How about the statements the liberals / democrats aka communist have stated just in the past few days about the Republicans and people who demand that the law of the land (Constitution) be followed and respected. They use words like terrorist, jihadist, criminals and so on when they demand that the law be upheld and enforced. The Democrats label soldiers as potential domestic terrorists after they have served for to protect them as well as you. The first people Obama and the democrats attack when it comes to raising the debt ceiling are the soldiers and the elderly. When have you ever heard them say that welfare recips and snap recips will not get their checks?

          Then you speak about American History, the question is, do you know American history? Lets talk about those issues with Indians, blacks and the Japanese-Americans

          Slavery was firmly established long before the Declaration of Independence. Slavery was not invented or created in the US by Americans. Do you think it was white people in Africa selling the Africans to white people in America? They sold their own people for profit. for Years the liberals/ Democrats tried to keep Slavery legal while it was the Republicans that fought to end Slavery, fought for civil rights under Lincoln in and around 1865. Then Lincoln was assassinated about a week after the 13th Amendment was ratified and conveniently Johnson took over office.

          “Johnson came to office as the Civil War
          concluded. The new president favored quick restoration of the seceded states to the Union. His plans did not give protection to the former slaves, and he came into conflict with the Republican-dominated Congress, culminating in his impeachment by the House of Representatives. The first American president to be impeached, he was acquitted in the Senate by one vote.”

          If you have trouble comprehending the above, let me try to explain it more clearly. Johnson – Democrat – He had no idea to protect former slaves. It was the Republicans that was against Johnson, this Democratic President whom it was the Republicans fighting to free the slaves and civil rights for all. Ultimately Johnson was impeached because he refused to work with Congress to free and protect the slaves and was replaced with Grant. Followed by the 15th Amendment the right to vote and the civil Rights act in 1875 under a Republican controlled Congress and under a Republican President Grant.

          Then comes the KKK:

          The original targets of the Ku Klux Klan were Republicans, both black and white, The Democrats started the KKK and for decades harassed the
          GOP with lynchings and threats.

          History reveals that not only did the Democrats work hand-in-glove with the Ku Klux Klan for generations, they started the KKK and endorsed its mayhem.

          “Of all forms of violent intimidation, lynchings were by far the most effective,” This seems to be a general practice for Democrats all through their history even to modern day “civilized Society” look no further than the current events of the Democrats and Obama over this Shut Down. “Republicans often led the efforts to pass federal anti-lynching laws and their platforms consistently called for a ban on lynching. Democrats successfully blocked those bills and their platforms
          never did condemn lynchings.” (Democrats blocking a bill such as lynching Republicans and blacks and in modern day they (democrats) are blocking such bills as making sure that veterans have access to their Memorials even during a government Shutdown in which the Republicans are fighting to protect the veterans.

          Further, the first grand wizard of the KKK was honored at the 1868 Democratic National Convention, no
          Democrats voted for the 14th Amendment to grant citizenship to former slaves and, to this day, the party website ignores those decades of racism.

          “Although it is relatively unreported today, historical documents are unequivocal that the Klan was established by Democrats and that the Klan played a prominent role in the Democratic Party,”

          “The Klan terrorized black Americans through murders and public floggings; relief was granted only if individuals promised not to vote for Republican tickets, and violation of this oath was punishable by death,” “Since the Klan targeted Republicans in general, it did not limit its violence simply to black Republicans;
          white Republicans were also included.” I can go on and on with historical facts of the well documented political affiliations of the ones doing their best to oppress people and particularly the blacks.

          You want to talk about the Japanese – Americans during WWII? Pay attention to the dates, the political affiliations of Congress and the sitting President of that time.

          FDR Franklin D Roosevelt – 1933 -1945 Democrat –

          “Japanese American internment was the World War II internment in “War Relocation Camps” of over 110,000 people of Japanese heritage who lived on the Pacific coast of the United States. The U.S. government ordered the internment in 1942, shortly after Imperial Japan’s attack on Pearl Harbor. The internment of Japanese Americans was applied unequally as a
          geographic matter: all who lived on the West Coast were interned, while in Hawaii, where 150,000-plus Japanese Americans comprised over one-third of the population, only 1,200 to 1,800 were interned. Sixty-two percent of the internees were American citizens.
          President Franklin D. Roosevelt authorized the internment with Executive Order 9066, issued February 19, 1942, which allowed local military commanders to designate “military areas” as “exclusion zones,” from which “any or all persons may be excluded.” This power was used to declare that all people of Japanese ancestry were excluded from the entire Pacific coast, including all of California and much of Oregon, Washington and Arizona, except for those in internment camps. In 1944, the Supreme Court upheld the constitutionality of the exclusion orders.

          Before you go blabbering about Conservatives or the Republicans you should research your own party and political affiliations and liberals to know who and what you actually support before you go having the audacity to ridicule the other parties. the people you align yourself with and support and defend have been directly involved in promoting and fighting to keep slavery and the atrocities committed by the KKK and the atrocities committed by the US Government to the Japanese – Americans always done under Democratic Presidents and introduced and suggested by Democratic congress members. Learn your facts before spewing ridiculous BS coming from your dumbed down indoctrinated public schooling edamunkation showing your absolute ignorance not only to American history but to American and world politics. I recomend you stick in the forums you can keep up with such as “Romper Room” or “Captain KANGAROO” OR PERHAPS “Mr Rogers” won’t you be my neighbor – might be more to your speed. Unfortunately Seasame Street is likely to be more your speed as your Messiah and Big Bird seem to have a bond.

      • http://www.thefreedomtrainusa.com/ FreedomTrainUSA

        Blah, Blah, Blah, Blah. My sentiments exactly…Liberal are good for one thing…the longer they Flap their Jaw…the funnier they get…So Liberals are good for one thing…They allow the rest of us to have a GOOD LAUGH…

      • smilee

        You keep citing what you see as wrongs by Lincoln so why get on Mark for you are guilty of.that to only difference Marks wrongs actulay happened yours did not.you only say they did

        • TheOriginalDaveH

          Good Grief, Sleepee. If you give me a few days, maybe I can bone up on my grandkid’s Dick and Jane reader, so that I can figure out how to explain my comment to you.

    • TheOriginalDaveH

      Argumentum ad Hominem. Shill Dave’s stock in trade.
      You must be a real hero in the middle school recreation yard, Shill Dave.

      • TheOriginalDaveH

        Anybody, who knows anything, knows that you are the Corporate Shill, Shill Dave.

        • smilee

          ALL BULL

          • http://www.thefreedomtrainusa.com/ FreedomTrainUSA

            smilee…PROVE TO THE CLASS THAT IT IS ALL BULL????? CITE REAL FACTS???

          • smilee

            It is obvious to the intelligent so that leaves you out, sorry I cannot then help you!!

          • http://www.thefreedomtrainusa.com/ FreedomTrainUSA

            Little smilee…YOU JUST ADMITTED THAT YOU HAVE NO FACTS TO PROVE THAT IT IS “BULL”….SINCE IT IS YOU THAT CALLED IT BULL…SUPPORT YOU CAUSE WITH FACTS…

    • Vigilant

      mark, in his unsuccessful diversionary attempt, overlooks the most important thing of all: that none of those presidents presided over, aided, abetted and accelerated the pushing of the nation to the very edge of economic disaster so profound as to make the Civil War and Great Depression look like child’s play.

      If only Obama and his leftist minions would inherit the harvest of the evil seeds they have planted, that would be one thing. The nation, every one of us, will be affected by the coming storm as our near certain economic failure looms. Little will stand in the winds that ensue, we will be jerked back into the 18th century, and the martial law that will be imposed upon us will make the British occupation seem benign in comparison.

  • ireAmerica

    Visit a National Park this weekend and show the same “respect” for the Barrycades as our World War II Vets did in DC.

    Rangers, you work for Us, you stay out of Our way or you’re fired.

    Love OUR National Parks!

    • TheOriginalDaveH

      Yep. We need to replace the shovel-leaning Park Rangers with people from the Private Sector who give a day’s work for a day’s pay.

      • ireAmerica

        Hmm… those bears look like they could use some SNACKS.

      • http://www.thefreedomtrainusa.com/ FreedomTrainUSA

        “that the private sector does everything better than the Gov.”
        Dave…Where did you get that piece of the liberal lie???? Did you learn it in the PUBLIC INDOCTRINATION CENTERS…OR FROM THE LAME STREAM MAFIA MEDIA…OR STRAIGHT FROM THE MOUTH OF YOUR…NOT MY…”ANOINTED ONE” IN THE WHITE HOUSE???? OR FROM ALL THE ABOVE…
        It is stupid remarks like that…that are void of any substance at all…is why I NEVER TAKE LIBERALS SERIOUSLY…

        • http://www.thefreedomtrainusa.com/ FreedomTrainUSA

          BLAH…BLAH…BLAH…BLAH….BORING…BORING…..
          BORING…

          • http://www.thefreedomtrainusa.com/ FreedomTrainUSA

            I have not lost anything…but apparently you have…since you brought up the subject…
            .EXPAIN TO ME WHAT YOU THINK I HAVE LOST?????

          • http://www.thefreedomtrainusa.com/ FreedomTrainUSA

            I HAVE NOT LOST MY MIND…
            SINCE YOU BROUGHT UP THE SUBJECT TELLS ME THAT YOU HAVE LOST YOUR…I HOPE YOU FIND IT SOON…LOL…

          • smilee

            He never wins!!!

          • Vigilant

            That comment from one who is intimately familiar with failure: smilee.

          • smilee

            ?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

          • Vigilant

            “????????” yourself. Add failure to comprehend the obvious to smilee’s other failures.

          • http://www.thefreedomtrainusa.com/ FreedomTrainUSA

            ?????????????????????????????????????????
            smilee…..YOU JUST TOLD US WHO YOU ARE….A BIG ?????????????? MARK…

          • http://www.thefreedomtrainusa.com/ FreedomTrainUSA

            smilee..Who never wins???? BE SPECIFIC…
            OH…I KNOW WHO NEVER WINS…smilee…YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT YOURSELF…

        • NObama_Holder_Reid_Pelosi_2012

          Look at his news resources… Haha CNN = Communist News Network. says it all. No wonder this liberal twit is so clueless.

          • http://www.thefreedomtrainusa.com/ FreedomTrainUSA

            Or Communist Noise Nutwork…

      • TheOriginalDaveH

        I wish you had some credibility, Shill Dave, because then I would thank you for helping me to demonstrate that both Democrat Leaders and Republican Leaders are taking advantage of the people. But alas, you don’t, so I can’t.

        • http://www.thefreedomtrainusa.com/ FreedomTrainUSA

          The difference between a Conservative and a Liberal…True Conservatives recognize that the Republican Party is run by the Establishment RINOS…and does not represent REAL Conservative Values….Because we have Full Use of the Critical Thinking Skills…Liberals on the other hand do not have Critical Thinking Skills to use…so all the have is the Pre-Programed message that the Liberal Elitists have given them…They will follow their Handlers right off the cliff…and never know that it happened…

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            Well put, Freedom, except I must point out that the Republicans have never been the Party of Small Government. They have just given lip-service to that goal without ever really striving to accomplish it. Since the very inception of the Republican Party they have been the Party of Mercantilism. So, like Bob says, a better acronym for them would be CINOs (Conservatives in name only).
            For a better way — Vote Libertarian.

          • http://www.thefreedomtrainusa.com/ FreedomTrainUSA

            Well said…Being that the Republican Party is run by the Establishment RINOS…The Likes of Karl Rove and others…They have given us such TRUE CONSERVATIVES…NOT…As George H W Bush…Bob Dole…George W Bush…Juan McLame… and Mittens Romney…and before these we had Tricky Dick…and by Default… The “I stand on my Record” in 1976.. Gerald Ford….Between all of them we have had an assortment form the Bottom of the Rotten Apple Barrel from the D****RATS…as Jimmy The Peanut Farmer Cater…Slick Willie,… I want to hop in bed with as many women as I can Clinton…. and then Hitler reincarnated in the form of the present DICTATOR IN THE WHITE HOUSE..
            The only True Conserative that we had in all that was Ronald Reagan…and at first back in 1980 the Establishment in the Republican Party were against him…Give us True Fiscal Conservative with Real American Values and he will get elected in a landslide ….as Reagan did in 1980 and 1984… Instead we have had a steady stream of Useless RINOS…Pretending to be Conservative to get elected…only to see the RINO Come out the day after the election…

  • Kyana McCoy

    Since Obama Care bill has already been passed tell us exactly why it is that you think we should allow the bill to be opened back up for debate? That is the first problem with what the Repubs are trying to do here by shutting down the government. Simple as that, doesn’t matter whether I like or dislike Obama Care. So total blame for this falls on yo Tea Party Comrades.

    • http://www.thefreedomtrainusa.com/ FreedomTrainUSA

      Death Care is a Train Wreck about to happen…And the term Train Wreck was stated by a D Senator…not an R…As far as opening it up for Debate…The disaster needs to be defunded and abolished…and if you think is so great…then check out what REAL PEOPLE that have tried to sign up have encountered…NOT GOOD AT ALL…It was Railroaded thru Congress…and now the Dictator in the White House and the D****Rats are trying to force implementation of this Disaster on the American People…

      “So total blame for this falls on yo Tea Party Comrades.” JUST WHO FORCED THE TRAIN WRECK OF “DEATH CARE THROUGH….I BELIEVE IT WAS THE “QUEEN PIGLOSI”…IN THE HOUSE WHO STATED THAT WE MUST PASS THE BILL TO FIND OUT WHAT IS IN IT…AND DIRTY HARRY WHO USED HIS COMPLETE BAG OF DIRTY TRICKS TO PASS IT IN THE SENATE…AND THEN THE DICTATOR IN THE WHITE HOUSE SIGNED IT….
      BUT SINCE YOU ARE A LIBERAL WHO CAN’T THINK…YOU SIMPLY BY THE LIBERAL LINE OF BS THAT IS THROWN AT YOU…

      • http://www.thefreedomtrainusa.com/ FreedomTrainUSA

        YES FORCED

        Bill passed the House #1…QUEEN PIGLOSI WHO HAD NO IDEA WHAT WAS IN IT FORCE THE VOTE BEFORE IT COULD BE READ…LOOK IT UP..

        Bill passed the Senate #2…DIRTY HARRY PULLED OUT ALL OF HIS BAG OF DIRTY TRICKS TO GET THIS DISASTER PASSED BEFORE ANYONE COULD READ IT…LOOK IT UP…

        Bill was signed into Law in the middle of the afternoon in the year 2009….AND YOUR ANOINTED DICTATOR SIGNED IT ON MARCH 23, 2010…SO GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT BEFORE YOU OPEN YOUR MOUTH…

        • smilee

          They have been misquoting her on that since day one, sad part is by now thy all know they ARE LYING AND THEY DO NOT EVEN CARE.

          • smilee

            TRUE!

          • Vigilant

            Dave, I’d begin to worry when smilee avidly supports your comments.

          • smilee

            I always support the truth I will even support you if you ever decide to tell the truth

          • http://www.thefreedomtrainusa.com/ FreedomTrainUSA

            smilee…SINCE YOU ARE SO SMART…TELL US HOW SMART YOU ARE…ENLIGHTEN US ALL WITH YOUR TRUTH AND WISDOM…..

          • smilee

            It is way to deep for your simple mind to comprehend so I will pass!!

          • http://www.thefreedomtrainusa.com/ FreedomTrainUSA

            YOU ARE IN THE REPEAT LOOP….FOR THE THIRD TIME NOW YOU HAVE ADMITTED THAT YOU HAVE A “SIMPLE MIND” … AND THIS PROBLEM MUST BE MORE SEVERE THAN AT FIRST YOU INDICATED…IT IS APPARENT THAT YOU ARE VERY CONCERNED ABOUT HAVING A SIMPLY MIND…I AM NOT SURE THAT THERE IS A FIX FOR THAT….BUT MAYBE IF YOU CALL YOUR “ANOINTED ONE” IN THE WHIT HOUSE HE MAY BE ABLE TO HELP YOU…

          • NObama_Holder_Reid_Pelosi_2012

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hV-05TLiiLU&hd=1

            “But we have to pass the [health care] bill so that you can find out what’s in it.” Only morons like yourself agree that something should be voted on and signed without reading it first. How about sending me a signed blank check and I’ll tell you later whats it for and how much its going to be.

          • smilee

            Find out if your congress men/women read it and if not then do not vote for him They knew what was in it but the GOP kept telling everyone things that were not in it but said they were. Here is the full quote

            “We have to pass the bill so that you can find out what is in it, away from the fog of controversy.”

          • http://www.thefreedomtrainusa.com/ FreedomTrainUSA

            smilee…
            And between Queen PIGLOSI in the House….and DIRTY HARRY in the Senate…members of both those bodies had only a couple of days if that to read that 2700 page bill….
            OF COURSE SINCE YOU ARE SO SMART AND A SPEED READER…YOU COULD HAVE READ ALL 2700 PAGES IN AN HOUR…CORRECT?????

          • smilee

            Bull,the bulk of it was online for a long time all they had to do was read the changes on a day to day basis as they occurred which usually were not that large, You do not understand how this works yet you keep shooting your big mouth off like you do, WHY???? This was not a real issue it was just one manufactured by the GOP to cast a fog over it and simple minds like yourself believed this bull.

          • http://www.thefreedomtrainusa.com/ FreedomTrainUSA

            Little smile…they had only hours or a couple of days to read the 2700 page final version of the Death Care Bill…you can check the Congressional record for the time frame…

          • NObama_Holder_Reid_Pelosi_2012

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?… Watch the video and educate yourself. You obviously have memory lost of anything more than 24 hours ago.

            “But we have to pass the [health care] bill so that you can find out what’s in it.” Only morons like yourself agree that something should be voted on and signed without reading it first. How about sending me a signed blank check and I’ll tell you later whats it for and how much
            its going to be.

            At least provide some facts, videos rather than your dumbed down public indoctrinated opinion.

          • http://www.thefreedomtrainusa.com/ FreedomTrainUSA

            Memory Loss of anything passed 24 seconds…if that long…

          • Vigilant

            S’matter, smilee? Cat got your tongue?

            NObama_Holder_Reid_Pelosi_2012 has provided the PRECISE quotation below. Now tell us how that quote is any less damning than any other misquotation you claim to have seen.

          • smilee

            This time its accurate but incomplete so it still amounts to spin. The full quote

            “We have to pass the bill so that you can find out what is in it, away from the fog of controversy.”

          • Vigilant

            I repeat “now tell us how that quote is any less damning than any other misquotation [or incomplete quotation] you claim to have seen.”

          • smilee

            That was not the concern, the concern was weather it was true or not. The misquote made it false and that is what I addressed

          • Vigilant

            Can’t wiggle out of that one, idiot. Either address the challenge or keep your pie hole shut. You’re about the most devious, non-answering liar I’ve ever seen on this site.

          • smilee

            I did answer it your just to simple minded to understand it!!

          • Vigilant

            You made keystrokes but you answered nothing. That’s your reaction EVERY time I paint you into a corner.

            “I repeat “now tell us how that [correct] quote is any less damning than any other misquotation [or incomplete quotation] you claim to have seen.”

            As you state, my memory is failing. Perhaps my eyesight as well, because I see NOTHING in any of your inane answers that addresses the challenge.

            On second thought, forget it. You’ll not answer that any more than you’ve ever answered anything when presented with facts. You’re as slimy and dishonest as they come.

            “Anything is better than lies and deceit!”
            ― Leo Tolstoy, Anna Karenina

          • smilee

            I did answer it your just to simple minded to understand it!! Repeating the BS over and over does nothing to change that. Go take a nap.

          • Vigilant

            As always, my prediction was correct. I rest my case. Smilee suffers from mental illness.

          • smilee

            LOL LOL LOL LOL You stupidly gets greater with every day

          • http://www.thefreedomtrainusa.com/ FreedomTrainUSA

            It sure is a HOOT….having a discussion with a Liberal…

          • Vigilant

            Smilee is the dumbest of the dumb. But then again, “dumb liberal” is redundant.

          • http://www.thefreedomtrainusa.com/ FreedomTrainUSA

            Did you hear that they are making a sequel to the movie…Dumb and Dumber…It is called DUMB…DUMBER…AND DUMBEST…I do think that “Little smile” might have enough brains to play the part of Dumbest….Of course he would fit right in with one of the CommieWood IDIOTS that was part of the original cast…Who showed his Liberal Stupidity on the Second Amendment.. and helped FRY what was left of his career…

          • http://www.thefreedomtrainusa.com/ FreedomTrainUSA

            smilee….DUH !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

          • smilee

            To deep for your simple mind isn’t it!!

          • http://www.thefreedomtrainusa.com/ FreedomTrainUSA

            Well Well…Litlle smile…just admitted that he has a SIMPLE MIND…THAT EXPLAINS ALOT…

          • Average_Joe56

            smilee,
            Speaking of simple minds……
            Do you know the difference between an exclamation point and a question mark? Obviously not…I guess we know now , who has the simple mind (as if there was ever any doubt).
            Thank you for proving once again, that you aren’t the sharpest tack in the box. Intelligence, eludes you.

          • smilee

            When you cannot find anything relevant to the subject bitch about something irrelevant, so typical of you

          • http://www.thefreedomtrainusa.com/ FreedomTrainUSA

            Liberals have no answers…SO THEIR ANSWER IS TO DUCK THE QUESTION…and their answer is another different question….

          • http://www.thefreedomtrainusa.com/ FreedomTrainUSA

            smilee…2 Negatives do not make a Positve…

          • smilee

            ?????????????????????????? Like I said your loosing it and no longer making a bit of sense.

          • http://www.thefreedomtrainusa.com/ FreedomTrainUSA

            Little smile…If you do not know what that means…then it tells me one of 2 things…One is that you really do not have any comprehension of anything…or you are too young and wet behind the ears….Because that statement has been around for more years than I have been…and I have been around this earth for 70 years….and have heard that said many times…of course you attended the Public Indoctrination Centers…Where only Propaganda and indoctrination took place…

          • smilee

            I have been arouNd it longer than you have. How are things in the lock up ward tonight???

          • http://www.thefreedomtrainusa.com/ FreedomTrainUSA

            YOU ADMIT NOW THAT YOU ARE IN A LOCK UP WARD OF A MENTAL HOSPITAL…I am sitting at home in front of my computer…

          • smilee

            Don’t you think you would be better off in the lock up ward? Your thought processes you expressed here suggest that maybe you would.

          • http://www.thefreedomtrainusa.com/ FreedomTrainUSA

            SINCE YOU ALREADY ADMITTED THAT YOU ARE THE LOCKUP WARD OF A MENTAL HOSPITAL…I HOPE YOU GET SOME REAL HELP…BUT SINCE I DO NOT HAVE ANY SUCH PROBLEMS… AS YOU DO…I WILL PASS ON YOUR OFFER TO JOIN YOU THERE…

          • smilee

            Spin spin spin that is all your doing besides lying your azz off

          • http://www.thefreedomtrainusa.com/ FreedomTrainUSA

            “Little smile”….
            QUESTION 1: JUST HOW MANY SCREEN NAMES DO YOU USE???????
            QUESTION 2: JUST HOW OLD ARE YOU IN ACTUAL AGE?????

          • smilee

            Just smilee and 72

          • Don 2

            It appears that all of you paid ‘Cyber-Warriors for Obama’ are 60’s radicals supplementing your S.S.

          • smilee

            No fully retired and work for no one, do not need to supplement SS as my union pension is bigger than I could make at most jobs out there today. Can your simple mind absorb that??

          • Don 2

            So, at age 72, you insinuate that you are not collecting S.S.? Do you want to buy some swamp land in Florida?

            I did not ask about your pension, did I? The fact that you have a pension does not preclude you from collecting S.S., does it?

            Because there were no previous mention, question, or statement regarding pensions, and yet, you chose to insert your pension as if that were the previous topic, indicates that you are the one failing to absorb, as well as a severe lack of comprehension. I guess that’s the price you pay when your mind is two years older than dirt.

            I do not believe for a second that you are not being paid to promote disinformation on this site. No one in their right mind, with your mentality and opposite viewpoints would hang around where they are not wanted, and argue day after day, after day, unless they are being compensated for it. That does leave the possibility that you are not in your right mind.

          • smilee

            Sure I get SS, never said otherwise. I only offer my personal beliefs on here. Your some kind of a nut case aren’t you?? Like I said I’m retired and have the time to do what and when I want to.. It is a free country and I could care less if you want me on here or not. Why are you so mad, you Lack maturity don’t you??

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            Try this, Sleepee — “you’re losing it”.

          • http://www.thefreedomtrainusa.com/ FreedomTrainUSA

            smilee…has no answer….

          • Vigilant

            Smilee never does. That’s his M.O. It’s funny to observe, really.

            EVERY time you pin him down with facts, he says “I answered that before.” Now you may look as hard as you like, you’ll never find the elusive “answer” he was supposed to have posted.

            Talk about pathological.

          • http://www.thefreedomtrainusa.com/ FreedomTrainUSA

            Every Liberal that I have encountered online or in person….General Average Idiot on the street type or a Politician or Lame Stream Mafia Media…..When they do not have an real answer…which seem like all the time….they either Change the subject so as not show how stupid they are…or they answer you back with another question so as to not answer your question….Since the Schools…and Universities have had nothing but Far Left Radical Professors that started in the Mid 60’s when I was in College and has gotten much worse…what they call education is really just Liberal INDOCTINATION….and in that Indoctrination they must have a course or courses titled FACTUAL EVASION 101…202…303…404..504…Because Liberal are MASTERS AT EVADING FACT AND THE TRUTH…

          • smilee

            No he didn’y here it is:

            “We have to pass the bill so that you can find out what is in it, away from the fog of controversy.”

          • http://www.thefreedomtrainusa.com/ FreedomTrainUSA

            smilee…What do you think…give us you best attempt at what that stupid PIGLIOSI remark means????
            TRANSLATE THAT TO MEAN…WE HAVE NOT GOT A CLUE WHAT IS IN THE ‘DEATH CARE” BILL…AND WE CAN’T DICUSS IT IN PUBLIC BECAUSE IT WOULD PROVE THAT WE HAVE NOT CLUE….AND THAT WOULD MAKE US LOOK DUMMER THAN WE ALREADY LOOK…

          • smilee

            If it is that complex for you to understand I have no chance of educating you on what it really means and it is fully self evident. Your loosing it, go see your shrink your going to need his help to help you adjustto the fact that Obamacare is here to stay and you can do nothing about that.

          • http://www.thefreedomtrainusa.com/ FreedomTrainUSA

            WELL WELL…Little smile….JUST ADMITTED TO ME THAT HE IS “LOSING IT”….YOU KNOW…I CAN BELIVE THAT YOU ARE LOSING…YOUR SUGGESTION OF GOING TO SEE A PSYCHIATRIST MIGHT BE VERY HELPFUL FOR YOU…HE COULD PUT YOU ON SOME MEDS….TO HELP YOU THROUGH THIS VERY DIFFICULT TIME YOU ARE HAVING….MAKE SURE THAT YOU SIGN UP FOR DEATH CARE AS YOUR “ANOINTED ONE” WANTS YOU TO DO….As for my health…I do not need any of the Big Medical and Big Pharma’s help….And as far as “Death Care”…BEING HERE TO STAY….well that Train Wreck is going to DESTROY ITSELF….

          • smilee

            YOU CAN’T read either I said you were losing it and this just proved me right, Your ability to comprehend is down to zero! Your such a loser

          • http://www.thefreedomtrainusa.com/ FreedomTrainUSA

            It appears that “Little smilee” is getting very very angry…he is using more and more INSULTS and his a name calling is ramped up NOTCH OR 3…
            YOU JUST ADMITED THAT YOU CAN’T READ…OR COMPREHEND ANYTHING ABOVE A FIRST GRADE LEVEL IF THAT…AND I AM SURPRISED THAT YOU HAVE NOW CALLED YOURSELF A “LOSER”
            Little smilee…it is sure seem that you have some RAL PROBLEMS….Better put a call into your ANOINTED ON IN THE WHITE HOUSE….HE MIGHT HAVE AN ANSEWER FOR YOUR DISORDER…THAT YOU HAVE CLEARLY OUTLINED…

          • smilee

            Angry??? I’m laughing my azz off at you, seldom do i run into such a fool such as you!! your a simple minded joke and there is no nice way to describe you!

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            Try this, Sleepee — “You’re a simple-minded joke”.

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            “comprehend”?
            First you need to learn how to speak proper English, Sleepee.
            Your is a possessive adjective. “You’re” is the contraction for “you are”.
            http://www.elearnenglishlanguage.com/difficulties/youryoure.html

            If the above link is too difficult for you to comprehend, Sleepee, I will try to find a Dick and Jane explanation for you.

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            What’s a “didn’y”?

          • http://www.thefreedomtrainusa.com/ FreedomTrainUSA

            smilee…BE SPECIFIC…GIVE US SOME DETAILS AS HOW PIGLOSI HAS BEEN MISQUOTED…..MOST OF THE THINGS THAT I HAVE MENTIONED ABOUT THE “QUEEN” HAVE BEEN QUOTE THAT YOU CAN RESEARCH AND FIND…CAME STRAIGHT OUT OF THE HORSES A$$….

          • smilee

            Here is what she actually said:

            “We have to pass the bill so that you can find out what is in it, away from the fog of controversy.”

            Here is how she is quoted by you and others like you!

            “We have to pass the bill so that we can find out what is in it,

            Specific enough for you?? It came you A$$ that is why it has such a putrid smell!!

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            You left out the “uh” Sleepee.
            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hV-05TLiiLU

        • NObama_Holder_Reid_Pelosi_2012
      • Constitution will Stand

        But, of course, you silly liberals didn’t understand that it would need to be funded?? That is the reason for your theatrics at this moment. It isn’t going to work. You didn’t pass it legitimately, because you changed the rules, like you taught the fools we tossed out in Colorado. Your attempt at violating the Constitution WILL go down in flames, ONE way or ANOTHER!

        • smilee

          It has already been funded, they are trying to revoke the funding (de-fund it as they call it) and the rest of your post is all lies too.

          • Vigilant

            “It has already been funded.”

            What a brilliant statement by smilee!

            If that is so, then Congress can just go home now, there’s nothing to debate.

            “Against stupidity the gods themselves contend in vain.”

            Friedrich von Schiller

          • smilee

            True statements are brilliant sad you cannot understand that. You do not even understand what is going on. Here it is. GOP wants a law that takes away the funding so it cannot be implemented. That is what they are voting on and no one but them will vote on it.. The stupidity here is on your shoulders spouting off without even knowing and understanding what is going on

          • Vigilant

            “Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but some abuse the privilege.”

          • smilee

            I’ve noticed that about you!

          • http://www.thefreedomtrainusa.com/ FreedomTrainUSA

            smilee…What did you notice????…BE SPECIFIC….or don’ you know what the term “specific” means???? FACTS…FACTS…MY “BOY”….

          • smilee

            Specific facts are not necessary as it is so overwhelmingly obvious in your case.

          • http://www.thefreedomtrainusa.com/ FreedomTrainUSA

            smile…I KNOW THE FACTS…BY YOUR COMMENTS YOUR COMMENTS YOU DO NOT KNOW THE FACTS OR HOW TO FIND THEM…BY TELLING ME THAT THEY ARE NOT NECCESSARY…THAT YOU DO NOT HAVE CLUE ABOUT THE FACTS…

          • smilee

            NO YOU DON’T, QUIT YOUR LYING!!

          • http://www.thefreedomtrainusa.com/ FreedomTrainUSA

            PROVE THAT I AM LYING…LAY OUR YOUR CASE THAT I AM LYING…THAT IS WHAT YOU HAVE TO DO IN A COURT OF LAW OR IN A DEBATE…
            “AND NO YOU DON’T” DO WHAT????? BE PRECISE…
            IT APPEARS THAT YOU ARE GETTING VERY ANGRY… AND ARE THROWING A TEMPER TANTRUM…

          • smilee

            You cannot prove anything to a closed mind if you ever develop a open mind let me know. There is nothing you can say to make me angry. I do not jump through hoops for jerks.

          • http://www.thefreedomtrainusa.com/ FreedomTrainUSA

            Actually let the Liberals be a STUPID AS THE WANT FOR AS LON AS THEY WANT TO…..They help us prove the point that they do NOT HAVE CLUE OF WHAT IS HAPPENING…

          • Vigilant

            Correct. It’s always good to encourage idiots like smilee to comment. He more effectively argues against his own points than I could.

          • http://www.thefreedomtrainusa.com/ FreedomTrainUSA

            I have been having a BALL with “Little smile” Every time he throws an insult….as he thinks it is…I THROW IT BACK AT HIM……BY STATING THAT HE JUST ADMITTED TO ME ANOTHER PROBLEM THAT HE HAS…This guy has to be Dummer than a Box of Rocks…Because he keeps coming back for more…He and all the rest of these Liberals give me a BREAK AND A GOOD LAUGH…Because it is then back to the REAL Reality…of doing what I can to Help save this Nation from the Dangerous Marxist Socialist that are trying to TOTALLY DESTROY IT AND ENSLAVE THE AMERICAN PEOPLE WITH THEIR TYRANNY..

          • http://www.thefreedomtrainusa.com/ FreedomTrainUSA

            What smilee and the rest of the liberals do not understand that the Constitution allows the House…which is where ALL government funding must originate from…also gives the House the right to fund anything or not fund it as they see fit…

          • Vigilant

            Had any of them (Alex, Dave or the rank amateur smilee) any understanding of the Constitution, they would know that what you say is impeccably correct.
            Smilee thinks he can avoid my challenge of yesterday by not answering my comment that there is NOTHING unconstitutional about the House failing to fund ANY bill of their choosing.

          • http://www.thefreedomtrainusa.com/ FreedomTrainUSA

            Vigilant…Typical Liberals…When the do not have any facts or the Question has hit them in the nose….The Tactic they all use is…..CHANGE THE SUBJECT…OR ANSWER THE QUESTION WITH ANOTHER QUESTION…It makes no difference it is the PAID SHILLS on here…or the D****RATS IN CONGRESS OR ELSEWHERE….Same Answer…Same Response

          • http://www.thefreedomtrainusa.com/ FreedomTrainUSA

            BLAH…BLAH….BLAH…BLAH….JUST MORE OF THE SAME….
            You must have graduated with a BS degree…Know as a BULLS**T DEGREE….Then you continued an got an MS Degree…MORE OF THE SAME…And finally you got your PHD….PILED HIGHER AND DEEPER DEGREE…
            FROM SOME PRETIGE PUBLIC INSTITUTION OF INDOCTRINATION…

          • smilee

            When people are not able to come up with something intelligent to say they either shut up or do iike you do and say a bunch of stupid things like you just did.

          • http://www.thefreedomtrainusa.com/ FreedomTrainUSA

            WELL MY…Little Boy smile…just admitted that he is STUPID….SAYS STUPID THINGS….AND HAS NOTHING OF VALUE TO SAY…AND HAS TOLD ALL OF US THAT HE SHOULD SHUT UP….
            OF COURSE SINCE YOU HAVE NOW ADMITTED THAT YOU ARE STUPID…THAT EXPLAINS WHY FACTS DO NOT REGISTER IN YOU PRE-PROGRAMED BRAIN…I FOR ONE AND MANY OTHER ON HERE HAVE PRESENTED YOU WITH MANY FACT….THAT ARE VERIFIABLE…BUT IT APPEARS THAT YOU BRAIN CAN’T COMPREHEND SUCH THINGS AS RESEARCH…
            BY THE WAY HOW OLD ARE YOU???? MAYBE YOU SHOULD GO BACK AND PLAY WITH YOUR VIDEO GAMES…SINCE THEY ARE MORE IN LINE WITH YOUR MENTALITY…

          • smilee

            When people are not able to come up with something intelligent to say they either shut up or do iike you do and say a bunch of stupid things like you just did.

            YOU JUST PROVED ME RIGHT, AGAIN

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            Sleepee can barely speak proper English, Freedom. It’s likely that he didn’t even graduate High School.

          • http://www.thefreedomtrainusa.com/ FreedomTrainUSA

            He has admitted that he is one of the 1960’s Liberal Radicals…Who never grew up…I remember most of them back at that time were so Brain Washed that they could not think for themselves and just followed the script that the Marxist Handlers set up for them…It is funny that when the Occupy Movement happened that….besides the NEW CROP of Brain Dead BOTS that was Hatched….Some of these OLD 60’S Left Wing Radical were out in the Streets SPEWING the same Line of BULLS**T that they were spewing out over 40 years before…

        • http://www.thefreedomtrainusa.com/ FreedomTrainUSA

          I do believe that enough people in this country are Fully Awake…So when REALITY OF THE FACTS….Collides WITH THE LIES, DISTORTIONS AND EMOTIONS…The end will not be in favor of the Liberal and their PHONY DANGEROUS AGENDA….Liberals can deny Reality all they want…but in the end it will BIT THEM IN THE A$$…

      • pnwdave

        They did NOt say it was constitutional. They said that if the “penalty” was called a tax, that that part was constitutional. They also stated that they did not have the time nor the inclination to dissect all 2700 pages of this obomination.
        Please don’t rewrite the decision of the SCOTUS to suit you’re agenda.

        • NObama_Holder_Reid_Pelosi_2012

          Obama and the Democrats went to great lengths to avoid calling it what it truely is…… a tax. Because if it was advocated as a tax, it would have never gained the support needed to pass it. Roberts conveniently changed the language of the bill after it was signed into law to make it legal and Constitutional as being a tax. Furthermore it is the biggest tax America has ever had, another unprecedented accomplishment from Obama. Impose the biggest tax increase ever in American history on the American people.

          • http://www.thefreedomtrainusa.com/ FreedomTrainUSA

            And as the Dictator and the D****RATS try to Implement this TRAIN WRECK…..The Courts at every level will be FLOODED WITH CASES Challenging every Part of this DISASTER….

    • Nadzieja Batki

      You just admitted that you like having Ocare. Keep milking the system supposedly it will be healthy for you.

      • Kyana McCoy

        Who is milking the system. I’ve been working 40+ hours a week since the age of sixteen. I don’t need insurance for me, I have insurance and it is pretty good. I’m gonna bet you’ve milked the system at one time or another eh?

        • TheOriginalDaveH

          First the Liberal Progressives Force their Socialist schemes on us, taking our money against our will, and then they have the nerve to use it against us if we use some of the benefits that we paid for.

    • Vigilant

      “Since Obama Care bill has already been passed tell us exactly why it is that you think we should allow the bill to be opened back up for debate?”

      You would have kept the Fugitive Slave Act, denial of women’s suffrage, and the Dred Scott case without change simply because they were on the books? Passage of a bill into law doesn’t write it in stone, dearie. Especially one that was unethically railroaded through the Congress against the will of the people.

      Why do we “think we should allow the bill to be opened back up for debate?” Because the American people don’t want it.

      • http://www.thefreedomtrainusa.com/ FreedomTrainUSA

        Vigilant…Your reply as Excellent….But I do not think the Liberal BOTS on here have the Mental Capability to understand any of it….After all most of them were not educated…but were Indoctrinated in the PUBLIC INDOCTRINATION CENTERS…

    • Robert Messmer

      You find nothing wrong with a bill that was passed to “fix” the health care system that makes no provision for any new doctors? None, not one. But it authorizes 16,000 IRS agents. Hey I didn’t know that IRS agents are also authorized medical practitioners. They’re not?? But they have to be because the bill is designed to fix the health care system and by putting another 16,000 doctors into the system prices will fall. Simple as that, doesn’t matter whether I like or dislike Obamacare, it doesn’t address the problem it supposedly fixes.

      Opened back up for debate?? How about because Obama has illegally changed, ie made changes by Executive fiat, portions of the bill. Such has having Congress granted special perks of 72% of their costs picked up by the taxpayers. Such as delaying for a year, the business mandate. There would be no debate needed had Reid simply allowed a vote of the CR where the House agreed to funding ACA with the elimination of the special treatment of Congress and implementing the business mandate now as the law was passed. Reid said NO! The CR was giving Obama everything he asked for but Reid wouldn’t allow the Senate to vote on it. So total blame does not fall on Tea Party.

  • http://www.thefreedomtrainusa.com/ FreedomTrainUSA

    Since “rbrooks” and other Liberals do not like the policies and the fact that this a conservative site…They should go back to their Liberal sites where the people on those sites like the all the Liberal BS….These Liberals get treated far better the Conservative Sites…then do Conservatives that Post on the Liberal sites…
    I have occasionally posted on some Liberal sites just to see the reaction from the Radicals that are on there…I have posted the facts…and the replies are VILE…INSULTING…WITH LOTS OF NAME CALLING…AND FILLED WITH HATE…That I have never seen on any Conservative site…and there are some Conservative sites that show real emotions….but with common sense being shown…
    If Liberals do not want to discuss the issues…then they need to go to the Liberal sites that use Liberal Talking Points and Emotions…What Liberals so often do on Conservative sites where people want to discuss the issues…is they turn it into a discussion…if you can call it that…of NONENSE…EMOTIONS…AND JUST STUPID COMMENTS THAT HAVE NO SUBSTANCE AT ALL…

    • http://www.thefreedomtrainusa.com/ FreedomTrainUSA

      Did Little Davy learn a new word…Fascist???
      But I bet he has NO CLUE what it means,,..
      Why don’t you tell the class what it means…during your Show and Tell…

      • http://www.thefreedomtrainusa.com/ FreedomTrainUSA

        The question was do you know the meaning…By your Non-response I will take it that you do not know the meaning…
        Yes I know the meaning very well of all the terms that you threw out….AND YES I KNOW FULL WELL THE IMPACT THAT ALL THOSE WILL HAVE ON THIS NATION…WHEN YOUR LITTLE BOY DICTATOR GETS THEM FULLY IN PLACE TO DESTROY ALL FREEDOMS IN THIS NATION…
        IT IS LIBERALS LIKE YOU THAT HAVE NO CLUE AS TO WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN UNLESS IT IS STOPPED…
        Have you read even one word of the Constitution????
        It appears you haven’t…and Yes I have read it many times and have thoroughly studied it…and your ANOINTED ONE…IS VIOLATING IT EVERYDAY WITH THE INTENT OF COMPLETELY DISTROYING IT…

        • http://www.thefreedomtrainusa.com/ FreedomTrainUSA

          UNHINGED…YOU MUST BE DESCRIBING YOURSELF…

          I AM HAVING FUN SITTING HERE LAUGHING AT THE STUPID REMARKS THAT YOU LOONY LIBERALS SAY…I HAVE FOUND THAT LIBERAL ARE GOOD FOR ONE THING…THERE ABSOLUTELY DUM REMARKS MAKE GIVE ALL THE REST OF US A GOOD BELLY LAUGH…SO WHY DON’T YOU QUIT TRYING SO HARD TO INSULT… BECAUSE THE MORE YOU SAY THE DUMMER YOU SOUND…

        • Vigilant

          I can confirm that Dave hasn’t a clue about the Constitution. He and Alex just the other day attempted to describe Obamacare defunding, filibuster, and a few other things as unconstitutional. Mental midgets both.

          • http://www.thefreedomtrainusa.com/ FreedomTrainUSA

            Vigilant….I know that Liberal have not got CLUE what is in the Constitution….AND THAT INCLUDES THE DICTATOR AND CONGRESS…When PIGLOSI was ask by a reporter if a piece of legislation was Constitutional….Her Reply Was….WHY DOES THAT MATTER….

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            Somebody has to stop the reckless Spending. It certainly won’t be stopped by the “compassionate” Liberal Progressives who are callously mortgaging our children’s future for their own current gains.

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            I don’t know about Reagan. He talked a good show, but Government did grow under his watch. Bush, Clinton, and Bush Jr. were all Progressives.
            Do you think anybody on this board buys your nonsense, Shill Dave?

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            You’re projecting, Shill Dave. You’re the psychotic slaver. I believe in voluntary contracts and property rights. You believe in helping yourself to other people’s money and Forcing them to do things your way.

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            Shill Dave says — “So are you saying the founding fathers intended to use funding the gov as a tool to defund a Constitutional law?”.
            1) It isn’t a “Constitutional” law. There is nothing in the Constitution that allows the Federal Government to tell us what products to buy.
            http://www.cato.org/pubs/constitution/constitution_en.html
            2) Our Founders did indeed intend for the House (which represented the people) to be able to defund onerous laws. That ability was a necessity in the struggle between the Colonialists and their self-appointed rulers.
            Shill Dave would know that if he read this book:
            http://mises.org/books/conceived1.pdf
            http://mises.org/books/conceived2.pdf
            http://mises.org/books/conceived3.pdf
            http://mises.org/books/conceived4.pdf

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            You’re mixing apples and oranges, as usual, Shill Dave.
            The required Liability Auto Insurance protects other people from us. The required Health Insurance protects us from ourselves. Of course, the reality is that neither was meant to protect anybody but the Crony Capitalist Insurance Companies. It’s nice when you can get Government to Force people to buy your product.

          • Vigilant

            “…if you drive a car.”

            And if one opts not to drive a car, they don’t pay insurance, do they?

            If one opts not to obtain health insurance, they should not have to pay for other people’s health insurance or medical costs.

            Do the words “socialism” or “forced redistribution of wealth” mean anything to you? Do you give a damn?

          • Vigilant

            Corporate interests don’t force me to buy their products, nor do they threaten fines/jail time if I don’t.

            “You can easily opt out of HC too…. Just stop breathing.”

            The “cuteness” of that remark points to the bankruptcy of your argument.

            You are simply a useless idiot of socialist interests that have no loyalty to the principles that built the United States of America.

          • Vigilant

            Talk about cognitive dissonance! DaveH just gets through explaining it to you below, and you still maintain that ACA and auto insurance are analogous.

            What part of “if you don’t drive a car you are not forced to buy auto insurance” do you have difficulty with?

            For you to call me a “faux right wing ‘patriot'” because I don’t want to try a system where everyone IS FORCED TO PAY a PRIVATE insurance company for their insurance exposes your socialist proclivities Dave.

            I don’t like socialists because they have never leaned from history, are abysmally ignorant of the Constitution, wish to force their views on everyone else, and are too stupid to see that there isn’t enough money in the world to make it work. They represent EVERYTHING the Founders were against.

          • Vigilant

            I’m not necessarily the smartest guy in the room, unless I’m in that room with nothing but lefties like yourself. “Against the Constitution” means “unconstitutional” and nothing else. The Founders left us no esoteric and arcane document to deal with; it’s written in pretty plain English, leaving only dolts like smilee and the bulk of progressives out in the cold.

            “…when a minority party shuts down the Gov just to defund a law they down [sic] like” is neither here nor here. You only have a basis for bitching about either party if they are doing something unconstitutional. NO ONE in the government, of either party, is claiming that the actions of the House are unconstitutional, or “against the Constitution” as you so falsely claim.

            Moreover, as you dullards so consistently fail to get your pea brains around, it takes two to tango. The House could fully reopen the government tomorrow by acceding to the Democrats and funding Obamacare. The Senate and President could fully reopen the government tomorrow by passing the current legislation. Regardless of which side of the question you stand, you can appeal ONLY to political sentiment, NOT constitutionality, in furthering your argument.

            What is happening now is a demonstration of the Constitution in action. “Checks and balances” should be familiar to anyone who ever took a class on the Constitution or civics. The process established by the Founders works, as is evidenced by the current debate. They did not intend to establish a government that would become a one-party system. To reply to your question “So are you saying the founding fathers intended to use funding the gov as a tool to defund a Constitutional law?” the answer is “you bet your ass they did.” And to turn your question upon you, “Tell me where the Constitution prohibits such actions.”

            There, you’ve had your civics lesson from someone who knows what he’s talking about.

          • Vigilant

            “If this law to get more people better HC cheaper than the system is so bad, the people will hate it after it is put in place…”

            (1) It is a fact that more people will NOT get better health care cheaper than the system. EVERY CBO calculation is that HC will cost each family MORE $$$, not less.That’s point 1.

            (2) NEVER have the polls shown since 2010 that Americans, by either a majority or plurality, approve of ACA. That’s point 2.

            (3) You’ve lost the argument that the House IN ANY WAY is either committing an unconstitutional act or gone “against the Constitution” as you’ve put it. That’s point 3.

            (4) Your argument that defunding ACA is “a horrible thing to do at this point with the fragility of the economy” is both bogus and illogical. Stopping Obamacare now would considerably help to AVERT further sliding of the economy into the pit of insolvency. Your voodoo math carries no water.

            (5) Perhaps worst of all is your cavalier disregard for the will of the American people, which admittedly has been a hallmark of leftist thinking from the start.. We didn’t want Obamacare when it was passed in 2010, and we don’t want it now.

            (6) Stop with this talk of a “minority” holding up government. The combined number of Republicans in the House and Senate far exceeds the combined number of Democrats. Think about that.

          • independent thinker

            1. You have stated yourself that the ACA is law passed by congress.
            2. As a federal law the ACA requires federal $ to operate.
            3. Since it requires federal $ to operate it is a part of the budget process or funding and as such is fair game just like every other $ spent by the federal government.
            4. If we follow your “logic” every program ever funded by the federal government must be funded forever.

    • Don 2

      Most of these characters are “assets” of the Cyber-Warriors for Obama Project, funded under Obama’s political corporation 501(c) 4 Organizing for Obama. They work from home, and their mission is to spread disinformation on any sites not in-line with Obama regime policies.

      • http://www.thefreedomtrainusa.com/ FreedomTrainUSA

        The best way I have found to deal with the BOTS that Dictator and his Terrorist Regime puts out there….is to THROW THEIR STUPIDITY BACK IN THEIR FACE…REPEATEDLY….
        THE MORE THEY ARE PRESSED…THE DUMMER THE RESPONSES ARE…WHICH SHOWS THAT THEY HAVE NOTHING OF REAL VALUE TO CONTRIBUTE…WHEN THEY KEEP TELLING YOU WHAT YOU ARE FEELING…THEY ARE IN FACT TELLING YOU THAT IS WHAT THEY ARE FEELING AND HAVE A REAL PROBLEM WITH…
        I have Fun with these USEFULL IDIOTS… and have a Good Laugh every time I deal with them…These Liberal Idiots do have a purpose….TO GIVE THE REST OF US A GOOD BELLY LAUGH…

        • TheOriginalDaveH

          I find them more Evil than Funny.

          • http://www.thefreedomtrainusa.com/ FreedomTrainUSA

            I agree that they are evil…especially the ones that are running the Country in the Ground…I was referring only to the STUPID IDIOT LIBERALS who post their stupid things on Conservative Sites…They are FAR TOO BRAIN WASHED To understand what any of us are saying…The message goes right passed them…I post on many places like this one…I do not get Upset with their STUPID REMARKS… and just play with them..

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            There are several of them who post regularly who are likely Shills.

          • http://www.thefreedomtrainusa.com/ FreedomTrainUSA

            I point blank ask “Little smile” how many screen names and he uses and what is his actual age…he replied “smile and 72″…If 72 is his real age…then 2 must be his mental age…Or maybe he is one of those old 60″s Left Wing Radicals that like many of them…FRIED THEIR BRAINS ON LSD OR ONE OF THE OTHER DRUGS OF THE TIMES…So that what is left of a Brain leaves them with mentality of a Child…When I replied to “Little smile” that he and the rest of his Liberal Buddies were Paid Shills…He replied back a typical sarcastic remark.. and it was apparent that he was very angry…I have fun with Liberals and one of the best ways to throw their crap and lies back in their face…THE BEST WAY TO MAKE A LIBERAL MAD IS TO USE THE FACTS…THEY CAN’T HANDLE IT BECAUSE THEY HAVE NO ANSWER EXCEPT TO BECOME ANGRY AND THROW OUT INSULTS AND NAME CALLING…

  • Kyana McCoy

    Bravo!!!! Threw the hammer down…

    • Vis Fac

      Smacked you right between the eyes it did!!! Still didn’t knock any sense in to you pity!

      Libertas inaestimabilis res est
      Semper-Fi

  • Vis Fac

    Liberals have caused more slavery than anyone else Your policies have enslaved future generations for years to come living under the rule of an omnipotent moron who has sold his soul to Satan borrowing more than anyone would imagine. devaluing toe US dollar so it is worth less than a mil.

    You call what we have freedom. Man you are messed up.

    Libertas inaestimabilis res est
    Semper-Fi

    • Vis Fac

      How Gauche Am I supposed to be intimidated by you pathetic little tirade?

      Again you failed and failed miserably.

      Libertas inaestimabilis res est
      Semper-Fi

  • pnwdave

    Great editorial Bob! Hope some of those low information voters read ti!

    • http://www.thefreedomtrainusa.com/ FreedomTrainUSA

      These Liberal BOTS can’t read…They spent to much time in the PUBLIC INDOCTRINATION CENTERS…

  • TheOriginalDaveH

    I do understand how the real world works, Shill Dave.
    That’s why your handlers are concerned about me, because I will wake others up to your Progressive reality.

  • NObama_Holder_Reid_Pelosi_2012

    Both you and the ignorant smilee both refuse to admit to facts and History because both are ignorant of facts and history. You get your information from places like huff Post, CNN and MSNBC Bill Maher and Piers Morgan all of which are just as ignorant as you clowns.

    • http://www.thefreedomtrainusa.com/ FreedomTrainUSA

      Liberal only use REVISONARY HISTORY…The Facts in Real History do not match their Agenda…

  • NObama_Holder_Reid_Pelosi_2012

    You are such an ignorant A$$hole.
    1860 presidential election
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery_in_the_United_States
    “The divisions became fully exposed with the 1860 presidential election. The electorate split four ways. The Southern Democrats endorsed slavery, while the Republicans denounced it.

    The Northern Democrats said democracy required the people to decide on slavery locally, state by state and territory by territory.

    The Constitutional Union Party said the survival of the Union was at stake and everything else should be compromised.

    Lincoln, the Republican, won with a plurality of popular votes and a majority of electoral votes. Lincoln, however, did not appear on the ballots of ten southern states: thus his election necessarily split the nation along sectional lines. Many slave owners in the South feared that the real intent of the Republicans was the abolition of slavery in states where it already existed, and that the sudden emancipation of four million slaves would be problematic for the slave owners and for the economy that drew its greatest profits from the labor of people who were not paid.

    They also argued that banning slavery in new states would upset what they saw as a delicate balance of free states and slave states. They feared that ending this balance could lead to the domination of the
    industrial North with its preference for high tariffs on imported goods. The combination of these factors led the South to secede from the Union, and thus began the American Civil War. Northern leaders had viewed the slavery interests as a threat politically, and with secession, they viewed the prospect of a new
    southern nation, the Confederate States of America, with control over the Mississippi River and the West, as politically and militarily unacceptable.

    LIberals was fighting to keep slavery as it was Lincoln and Republicans in congress submitting bills to end slavery and advocated to ratify the 13th Amendment

    Womens right to vote:

    http://www.archives.gov/historical-docs/document.html?doc=13&title.raw=19th%20Amendment%20to%20the%20U.S.%20Constitution:%20Women%27s%20Right%20to%20Vote

    Passed by Congress June 4, 1919, and ratified on August 18, 1920, the 19th amendment guarantees all American women the right to vote.

    Pay close attention idiot…… http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/66th_United_States_Congress

    The Sixty-sixth United States Congress was a meeting of the legislative branch of the United States federal government, comprising the United States Senate and the United States House of Representatives. It met in Washington, DC from March 4, 1919 to March 4, 1921, during the last two years of Woodrow Wilson’s presidency. Both chambers had a Republican majority. Republican Majority – from March 4th, 1919 – March 4th, 1921 Congress passed womens voting rights on June, 4th 1919 (3 months after 66th Congress was in) and it was ratified August 18th, 1920 while Congress was Republican Controlled. It was the Republicans and conservatives that had the Majority of both the House and the Senate at that time.

    I can go on with historical facts to flog all your other accusations but simply have no desire to spend much time educating idiot liberals as they are unable to comprehend any subject much above the 3rd grade level.

  • NObama_Holder_Reid_Pelosi_2012

    speaking of big money in political process, whos Presidential reelection was the first to ever spend more than a billion dollars to get elected or re-elected?

    An article from your beloved rag – http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/12/06/2012-presidential-election-cost_n_2254138.html

    • http://www.thefreedomtrainusa.com/ FreedomTrainUSA

      Liberals deny all fact….If they admit to any facts….They have to admit that the facts BLOW UP THEIR PHONY BELIEFS AND AGENDA…

  • NObama_Holder_Reid_Pelosi_2012

    you want to know the meaning of “Limited Government” and the duties of Government then read the Constitution – the law of the land – it spells it out clearly to most people with the ability to understand and comprehend English which becomes a real challenge for liberals morons like you who have difficulties understanding the meanings of words that consist of more than one syllable.

  • NObama_Holder_Reid_Pelosi_2012

    ignorance is quite bliss for you, isn’t it Dave?

    • http://www.thefreedomtrainusa.com/ FreedomTrainUSA

      Liberals like their UTOPIAN BLISS…if they ignore the facts and reality…they think it will all go away…and we can all live happily ever after….THAT IS UNTIL REALITY HITS THEM SQUARE IN THE FACE…

  • NObama_Holder_Reid_Pelosi_2012

    According to twits like Dave, anyone who advocates to support and follow the constitution is on a crusade against America to demand that those in power follow and enforce the law of the land.

  • Vigilant

    And Dave steps forward to prove FreedomTrain’s point…delicious!

    • http://www.thefreedomtrainusa.com/ FreedomTrainUSA

      Liberals are so STUPID that they do not know HOW STUPID THEY ARE…I have found that when you have some FUN Playing with them…They will show their TOTAL STUPIDITY EVERY TIME…

    • Vigilant

      You are hereby authorized to rejoin the human race at the moment you can learn to distinguish between humor and fact. I’ll not hold my breath.

  • Vigilant

    LOL…I love it when the leftists, bereft of any factual counterargument, engage in everything BUT objective debate on the issues.

    • http://www.thefreedomtrainusa.com/ FreedomTrainUSA

      Liberals are Funny…They serve the purpose of giving us a GOOD LAUGH…

  • Vigilant

    ObamaCare was passed on Christmas Eve on a straight party line vote using a procedural gimmick — the Byrd Amendment — to circumvent the need for 60 votes, a tactic of which Senator Byrd himself disapproved.

    But, more importantly, the CBO had been grossly negligent in estimating its cost as under a trillion. Congress bought a pig in a poke. It is now likely to cost almost $3 trillion over a decade. Oops. Slight mistake.

    Normally, Congress could revisit the math and scale it back through the appropriations process, but as Obama cast the program as an entitlement, it does not go through appropriations. So Congress is fully within its rights to use its power over the budget and the debt to revisit the glossy assumptions on which passage was based. It is the only way they can.

    On a political level, ObamaCare was passed on a party-line vote. Its passage reflects a unique moment in our history where one party government was possible, made more so by the shaky procedural ruling on the Byrd Amendment.

    The program never had a majority or plurality in public opinion polls and was passed despite a high profile victory of Republican Scott Brown in Massachusetts largely attributable to public anger over the new law.

    When America saw what their super majority Democratic Congress had passed, they reversed field and threw them out of power in the House and reduced their Senate majority.

    So are we not entitled to revisit the issue? Can we not now look back? With a threefold increase in cost, can’t we use fiscal checks and balances over the debt limit and budget to see if we really want to go down that road? Damn right we can.

    Above from Dick Morris.

    • http://www.thefreedomtrainusa.com/ FreedomTrainUSA

      Very well stated…

  • Vigilant

    Dave has tried that lie about the SCOTUS before.
    Roberts’ swing vote now clearly shows a majority by the leftist activist justices on the court.

    Leftist: Kagan, Sotomayor, Breyer, Ginsburg.
    Sane Constitutionalists: Scalia, Thomas, Alito.
    Swing votes: Roberts, Kennedy.

    “Conservative heavy SC?” Hardly. But that doesn’t stop liars like Dave from claiming it.

    • http://www.thefreedomtrainusa.com/ FreedomTrainUSA

      Roberts was a Moderate appointed to the Court by a Cleary RINO George W. Bush…and in that Ruling we saw his True Colors come out…

  • Vigilant

    Dave has the gaul to call someone a liar after claiming the SCOTUS is conservative…that’s rich!

    • Vigilant

      Oh, so THAT’S it? You have the child’s belief that the political orientation of a justice’s decisions is ruled by the president who appointed him/her?

      Turns out to be not so much a matter of lying as it is a matter of your stupidity.

      To your naïve and simple mind I must answer, “no, son, the proof if the pudding is in a justice’s actual rulings.” To imply in any way that Roberts’ support of the ACA decision was conservative is to assert something neither Conservative nor progressive would agree with.

      Activist/progressive: Kagan, Sotomayor, Breyer, Ginsburg.
      Conservative: Thomas. Scalia, Alito.
      Swing votes: Kennedy, Roberts

      That’s the way it lays out. Roberts had once been considered a Conservative until the ACA decision, and is now looked at as a turncoat by Conservatives.

      • Vigilant

        Not to my bias, sonny, but to that which is generally recognized by people on BOTH sides of the aisle. You can’t make the naïve and facile assumption that because a Republican president appointed a justice, that justice must be a Conservative. To do so is to betray a purposeful ignorance of the way court decisions have sorted out over the years.

        As for Roberts, his activist interpretation of the Constitution, and siding with the activist justices (Sotomayor, Kagan, Breyer and Ginsburg) speaks for itself. NO ONE, left or right, would say that his decision was Conservative (except maybe you and smilee in your collective ignorance).

        But here’s a key point: even if I were to buy into your ridiculous notion that the president who appointed the justice determined the decisions of that justice, you lose again. GWB was NEVER a Conservative, and his designation as “neocon” proves it.

        It was recognized by EVERYONE (prior to Roberts’ defection) that the court was traditionally “balanced” with 4 activists, 4 Conservatives and one swing vote. NOTHING you can research will disclose otherwise.

        • Vigilant

          Then Dave says, “You are an every [sic] increasing partisan phony. You just tried to make that same distiction [sic] with who the [sic] supports racism and you about Democrats and their proclivities before the civil rights act.”

          Trying to decode your poor English in the second sentence is bad enough but I think I got the gist.

          The Democrats have never changed their stripes. Republicans (who were the true classical liberals) fought to overcome heavy Democrat resistance to all the civil rights legislation proposed by Republicans from the Civil War to the Civil Rights Act. And a MUCH higher percent of Democrats voted against it than did Republican.

          http://www.govtrack.us/congress/votes/88-1964/h182
          Things still haven’t changed. The Democrats hijacked the cause for their own agenda, i.e., keep the black man dependent upon government by offering goodies to bring them over to your side and to increase the vote. They have effectively kept the Negro enslaved. Not happy with that, they now want to enslave everyone.

          The Democrats, who long ago betrayed Thomas Jefferson, are now the party that has reversed its roll. The Conservatives are NOW the party of Constitutionally limited government. Deal with it.

          • Bob666

            Vigilant,

            I would agree with most of your post, but I would also have to say that both the GOP and the democratic parties are not the parties they were say, forty years ago.
            I left the GOP over twenty years ago as it went south during Reagan’s tenure. As a tenth- generation southerner, I get a kick when people say the KKK was started by democrats. Yes, many of the original members were democrats (as were the majority of southerners were), but more proclaimed to be Christians. Does that mean that all Christians were/are raciest?

            Over fifty-years ago as a young man, most southerners were Dixie-Crates and they were far more conservative than most of those who claim to be in the GOP today. If alive, most of those Dixie-crates would be Tea Party members and most switched to the GOP before they departed this world.

            Both parties have changed in the last fiftty-years and not for the better.

          • Vigilant

            I agree with you implicitly.

            That’s why I find it utterly frustrating when I see people like Dave equating “conservative” with neocons and RINOs. They have not, nor will they ever, understand what It means to be a Conservative.

  • Vigilant

    How odd that you ignore “the record” of the precise quotation furnished. You and smilee are simple tools.

    • smilee

      “We have to pass the bill so that you can find out what is in it, away from the fog of controversy.”

      • http://www.thefreedomtrainusa.com/ FreedomTrainUSA

        smilee…YOU MUST BE STUCK IN THE REPEAT LOOP…LOL…

        • smilee

          Have to keep doing in hopes there will come a time it will sink into that simple brain of your!!

          • http://www.thefreedomtrainusa.com/ FreedomTrainUSA

            That is correct….You are in a Repeat mode….YOU JUST TOLD ME AGAIN THE YOU HAVE A “SIMPLE BRAIN”

    • http://www.thefreedomtrainusa.com/ FreedomTrainUSA

      They were EDUCATED…NO…MAKE THAT INDOCTRINATED TO BE GOOD LITTLE LIBERAL ROBOTS…PROGRAMED TO SPIT OUT THE PRECISE LINE OF LIES AND BULLS**T ON CUE…AS THEIR ANOINTED ONE AND HIS HENCHMAN WANT…NO ORIGINAL THOUGHTS ARE POSSIBLE AS THAT PART OF THE BRAIN WAS SHUT OFF OR REMOVED…

  • Vis Fac

    DUMB A$$ DAVE I have but only master and he is God. Unlike you who have several all disciples of Satan.

    Anything you cannot comprehend understand or control you label pathetic.

    What is truly Pathetic is people like you who are led around by government and lame stream media. You don’t have the mental capacity of a ten year old yet believe you know everything.

    The world has passed you by leaving in its wake scraps for you to have a meager existence while lame stream media instills in you their mantra “we are the purveyors of truth and knowledge and we will decide what you need to know” DUMB A$$ DAVE you are indeed PATHETIC

    Next time try providing at least one IOTA of lucidness in your next comment, you no longer amusing just boring!!!

    Libertas inaestimabilis res est
    Semper-Fi

  • http://www.thefreedomtrainusa.com/ FreedomTrainUSA

    YES I CAN…IT IS THE ONLY WAY TO GET YOUR ATTENTION….LOL
    I LAUGH EVERY TIME I REPLY TO A LIBERAL….I DON’T HAVE TO USE FACTS SINCE YOU DON’T HAVE THE ABILITY TO UNDERSTAND THEM ANYWAY…

  • http://www.thefreedomtrainusa.com/ FreedomTrainUSA

    All these facts are what the Liberals do not want to hear…Because it DESTROYS THEIR DANGEROUS ADGENDA of Destroying the American Way of Life…

  • http://www.thefreedomtrainusa.com/ FreedomTrainUSA

    And Little Davy…Then tell us what she really said??????
    Do you really Know?????

  • http://www.thefreedomtrainusa.com/ FreedomTrainUSA

    Dirty Harry is a Dirty Little Scoundrel…who will do anything to push his Dangerous Agenda…

  • Nurseteacher96

    I like reading the lack of information espoused by you tea party members. You call liberals all kinds of names here then deny you do. Obamacare is the law of the land. Yes, it can be repealed after the next election. Yes, you are proud to say you don’t want low income people to have insurance. How sad is that? How Christian. You say it is not the right way. You had decades to fix it and you didn’t!

    • A Thought

      You’re an idiot.

    • TheOriginalDaveH

      Who has identified themselves as Tea Party members, Nurse?
      Nurse says — “Yes, you are proud to say you don’t want low income people to have insurance”.
      Sorry Nurse but that bit of hyperbole has nothing to do with it. What we want is for you Liberal Progressives to get out of our pockets and quit making our personal choices, none more personal than our healthcare.
      It’s ironic that you try to guilt us as you put your hands in our pockets and Force your choices on us.
      You are nothing but common thieves and Forcers, Nurse, masquerading as “compassionate” people.

      • http://www.thefreedomtrainusa.com/ FreedomTrainUSA

        It seems that when these Liberal BOTS have nothing else Stupid to say that they will BLAME THE TEA PARTY…

    • Vigilant

      Teacher=socialist.

      • Vigilant

        Your ignorance has never stopped showing. Neither the 20th nor 21st century saw the election of Conservatives. Reagan came the closest, but no cigar.

        • Vigilant

          JFK was the last liberal president. The succeeding Dems, and most Repubs, were progressives and/or socialists.

          Your English is beginning to get as bad as smilee’s.

          • Dave

            Sorry, i phones do that to me :-)

            If you are comparing modern presidents to people from the early, 1800’s then I suppose you are right, everyone is a progressive. But if you are living in todays world and using todays definitions, you are as wrong as DaveH is. In those days, the audacity of ending slavery or giving women the vote were considered liberal and progressive.

          • Vigilant

            There’s no doubt that abolishing slavery and women’s suffrage were classically liberal actions, and in both cases it was the Republicans who championed the causes and were thwarted by the Democrats.

            The term “liberal” means something today quite different from what it originally meant. Leftists today no longer fight for restrictions on big government. On the contrary, they desire to make each person in the country unconstitutionally beholden to government for everything, something that would have been (and actually was) prohibited by the Founders.

            Ironically, it is today’s Conservatives who adhere to the philosophy of Thomas Jefferson. Up until the last 50 years or so, it was the Democrats who proudly traced their political heritage to Jefferson. One hears nary a word about that any more, as the Dems know damned well that they have morphed into something quite alien to Jefferson’s stated ideals.

        • Vigilant

          “What a Conservative looks like?” You want me to draw a picture?

          I will describe EXACTLY what the size of government should be. You can find it at http://www.archives.gov/exhibits/charters/constitution_transcript.html

          • Vigilant

            1803? What does the Louisiana Purchase have to do with anything we’re talking about?

            If you mean the Constitution is “unrealistic” then you’d better back that up with some facts, sonny.

            Tell us specifically what is missing from the Constitution that makes it inadequate to the task of defining the rules for government in the 21st century. If you cannot do that in specific terms instead of sweeping generalities, then you might make some headway. As it is, you are just spouting the leftist line.

    • Robert Messmer

      And the ACA STILL doesn’t cover the low income people. Check it out call the President, call Harry Reid and ask, “Will ACA provide insurance coverage to every American citizen, no matter how low their income, no matter if they have no access to computers, no access to phones, no matter what state they live in?”

      Tea party members had decades to fix it and didn’t? The Democrats have had since the Civil War and didn’t–so much for their “caring about the little people”

  • jenab6

    A nation doesn’t wake up gradually. It happens all at once, when its people prove by their immediate, undeliberated actions that they have finally had enough. Nobody has to point it out. Nobody needs to say “they have awoken,” because it will be too obvious to require mentioning. Cities burn. Politicians and judges are hanged. Bureaucrats and other hated oppressors suffer deaths too gruesome to describe. A people awakened to their oppression inflict a murderous spasm of righteous correction upon tyrants. There is just no stopping them, because of the numbers involved.

  • http://www.thefreedomtrainusa.com/ FreedomTrainUSA

    Dave…What Conservative Master are you talking about?????? BE SPECIFIC!!!!!!!!!!!

  • http://www.thefreedomtrainusa.com/ FreedomTrainUSA

    So now all the Conservatives on here are in the Employ of Bob Livingston???? He must have a very large Work Force…..Buy the Dave..Mark..smilee…and all the rest of the Liberal Troll and all their various screen names…HOW MUCH IS THE DICTATOR IN THE WHITE HOUSE PAYING YOU TROLLS TO COME ON HERE AND MAKE STUPID REMARKS???????????/

  • http://www.thefreedomtrainusa.com/ FreedomTrainUSA

    Dave….WHO IS CRYING????? SINCE YOU MENTION IT….YOU MUST BE TELLING US THAT YOU ARE CRYING….MOST OF THE REST OF US ARE HAVING A GOOD LAUGH AT YOUR STUPIDITY…

  • http://www.thefreedomtrainusa.com/ FreedomTrainUSA

    ALL THE PROVES IS THAT WARREN AND THE D****RATS WIN THE CONTEST AS TO WHO IS THE BEST AT “LIES AND NAME CALLING”….HANDS DOWN THAT AWARD GOES TO THE D****RATS…

  • http://www.thefreedomtrainusa.com/ FreedomTrainUSA

    Davy…You keep repeating our Master…..JUST WHO ARE OUR MASTERS…..I AM MY MASTER AND CAN THINK FOR MYSELF….THE ONLY MASTER THAT I HAVE JESUS…THE GOD OF THE BIBLE…
    Beside the Dictator in the White House and all of his Thugs…Both in and out of Congress…IT APPEARS THAT YOUR MASTER MUST BE SATIN HIMSELF…

  • http://www.thefreedomtrainusa.com/ FreedomTrainUSA

    THAT SOUNDS LIKE THE JIBBERISH OF A INCOHERENT 5 YEAR OLD…

  • http://www.thefreedomtrainusa.com/ FreedomTrainUSA

    Shill Dave… You and your liberal buddies on here are the only ones that are angry….You see that every time that you accuse someone else of something…you are REALLY STATING HOW YOU FEEL….SINCE YOU HAVE NO IDEA OF WHAT OTHERS FEEL…YOUR “ANOINTED ONE” IN WHITE HOUSE IS A MASTER OF TRYING TO TRANSFER HIS FEELINGS ON EVERYONE ELSE…SO HE CAN BLAME THEM FOR HIS SCREW UPS…

  • Jana

    We certainly see a Socialist when we read your posts.

  • http://www.thefreedomtrainusa.com/ FreedomTrainUSA

    At 5:43 PM Saturday… It appears that “Little smile” had had enough after admitting over and over and clearly proving that he has NO CLUE WHAT IS GOING ON…At the end of his tirade he apparently was getting very ANGRY just before his last STUPID REPLIES…Because he Ramped up the intensity of the NAME CALLING…

  • http://www.thefreedomtrainusa.com/ FreedomTrainUSA

    Little smile…YOU HAVE GIVEN ME ENOUGH LAUGHS FOR TONIGHT…SO I AM SIGNING OFF…SO i CAN DO SOME OTHER REAL THINGS…BUT I DO HAVE TO ADMIT THAT YOU AND YOUR LIBERAL BUDDIES ARE VERY AMUSING AND I DO GET SOME NEEDED LAUGHS BETWEEN THE REAL THINGS THAT NEED TO BE DONE…

  • Jana

    At least he doesn’t call you names like you call other people. He has a complete vocabulary without name calling.

  • http://www.thefreedomtrainusa.com/ FreedomTrainUSA

    The best thing that all of us with Intelligence and Common Sense can do best is to TOTALLY IGORE “Little smile” and the rest of his Liberal Buddies and ALL their Many Aliases.

    We need to Discuss the Real Issues that we face in this Nation.
    Since these Liberal BOTS…have nothing of SUBSTANCE TO CONTRIBUTE….JUST LOOK PASSED THEIR EMPTY REHORTIC….LIES AND BULLS**T….AS IF IT DOES NOT EXIST…IF THEY WANT TO CONTINUE TO SHOW HOW IMMATURE THEY REALLY ARE BY INSULTS…NAME CALLING…AND OTHER ASSORTED INFANTILE REMARKS….LET THEM….THEY ACT LIKE LITTLE CHILDREN THAT FEEL THE NEED TO THROW A “TEMPER TANTRUM” TO GET ATTENTION….OF COURSE THEY HAVE A EXCELLENT TEACHER…THEY HAVE THE “LITTLE BOY DICTATOR” IN THE WHITE HOUSE WHO IS AND HAS PERFECTED THE ART OF “TEMPER TANTRUMS” WHEN HE DOES NOT GET HIS WAY…

  • Jana

    That would be YOU Dave and who you serve!

    fascist
    1. Someone who believes in a totalitarian state rule by a supreme leader (dictator) who controls everything possible and treats people harshly — to gain the leader’s own success

  • http://www.thefreedomtrainusa.com/ FreedomTrainUSA

    By his OWN ADMISSION “smile” is an OLD 60’S FAR LEFT WING RADICAL…WHO NEVER GREW UP…

    • http://www.thefreedomtrainusa.com/ FreedomTrainUSA

      N/A

    • TheOriginalDaveH

      More childish manipulative tactics. That’s all these Liberal Progressives have, because their agenda is bankrupt and indefensible, and they know it.

    • Robert Messmer

      So since you claim that Bob Livingston “hates his own country.” we’re wrong to call the ACA Obamacare, it should really be called Bob Livingstoncare?

    • http://personalliberty.com/ Bob Livingston

      Dear Dave the bigot,

      You write: “By Bob Livingston’s own admission, he is a ultra right wing conservative radical that never grew up and hates his own country.” Where is this my “own admission?”

      Best wishes,
      Bob

      • http://personalliberty.com/ Bob Livingston

        Dear bigot dave,

        You are a fool and a troll and an obfuscator and a liar. Your time here is nearing an end if you continue your current tack of gratuitous libel and lies.

        Best wishes,
        Bob

        • http://personalliberty.com/ Bob Livingston

          Dear bigot Dave,

          You write: “ban me… you just prove what I have always known about conservatives….” Goodbye. You have been given a chance to abide by the policy.

          Best wishes,
          Bob

  • dr know

    It really amazes me how warped and twisted some of the thinking and mentality is with some of the people in this country! One of the primary responsibilities of the Congress is to FUND the government! You cannot hold the nation hostage attempting to change what is already law through the legal process no matter how right or wrong the law is. Refusing to pay the bills already appropriated is misguided and reckless! The nation cannot be held hostage by a small faction of one branch of the government no matter what the reason. The forum for debating this is in the chambers of Congress not on a national stage by embarrassing fiscal irresponsibility!!

    • TheOriginalDaveH

      dr know says — “Refusing to pay the bills already appropriated is misguided and reckless!”.
      Funny, we heard the same thing 2 years ago. But the Progressives keep spending and indebting us.
      When normal people find that they’ve overspent their revenues and maxed out their credit cards, they Quit Spending More.
      Since when is a Government job guaranteed for life?

    • rwm44

      the original obamacare was approved and signed into law but once bho started all his exemptions and chages that law should have been repealed and bho’s new tax should have been voted on.
      how would you like to go buy a house in a nice neighborhood then have the seller come back and take away all the doors and windows then move the house to a poor neighborhood before you have a chance to move in .
      wouldnt this be the same basic thing.
      if bho wants it so bad go back to the way it was voted upon

  • TheOriginalDaveH

    More nonsense from the Shill Dave.
    We heard the same nonsense in the summer of 2011.
    Yet here we are again, the Government still borrowing and spending our future away.
    It’s funny how it’s “compromise” when the Liberal Progressives want what we own, but they’re nowhere to be seen “compromising” when we want to cut their spending.

    Shill Dave says — “Conservatives in the GOP are extremists!”.
    Like a typical adolescent manipulative Liberal Progressive. Does anybody fall for that nonsense?

    • TheOriginalDaveH

      How much debt was added to the National Debt under Reagan, Shill Dave?
      How much debt was added to the National Debt under Obama, Shill Dave?
      And don’t give me the percentage increase deception. Just give me the dollar amounts.

      • TheOriginalDaveH

        As expected the Shill Dave danced around an answer. He knows he can’t answer the questions without looking like the fool he is.

  • Don 2

    You seem to forget Sheila Jackson Lee is one of your brainiacs. lol

  • TheOriginalDaveH

    Attention, Thieving, Controlling, Manipulative Liberal Progressive Shills — we are sick of you ruining our country, our economy, and our lives.
    Imagine Shill Dave trying to convince people that his Thieving, Controlling, Manipulative cohorts aren’t “authoritarian”.

    • TheOriginalDaveH

      More of Shill Dave’s Argumentum ad Hominem. What would Shill Dave do without the manipulation?
      Sure a mix of Socialism and Capitalism can work.
      I could get along without several fingers also, but I’d prefer not to.

  • TheOriginalDaveH

    You’re a Socialist, Shill Dave. Be a man, admit it.

  • TheOriginalDaveH

    Shill Dave says — “we would not have SS and than means the elderly would have a much higher instance of poverty like there was before SS”.
    What nonsense. Most of us would have invested the money wisely and had more to retire on in the future. Those who can’t make good decisions could join voluntary retirement funds such as Insurance Annuities where the Administrators actually put the money in funds instead of spending it and replacing the funds with IOUs like the Government did:
    http://mises.org/daily/5658/Is-Social-Security-a-Ponzi-Scheme

    Imagine that. Shill Dave’s Liberal Progressive cohorts took people’s money away “for their own good”, and then proceeded to spend that money until it was gone. Now, as a result, the system operates hand-to-mouth with the unfortunate young people being forced to fund the payouts to current retirees, with a high likelihood of never receiving their own payouts when they retire.
    Wow. What kind of demented minds bought into that scam?

  • TheOriginalDaveH

    Shill Dave says — “we would not have SS and than means the elderly would have a much higher instance of poverty like there was before SS”.
    What nonsense. Most of us would have invested the money wisely and had more to retire on in the future. Those who can’t make good decisions could join voluntary retirement funds such as Insurance Annuities where the Administrators actually put the money in funds instead of spending it and replacing the funds with IOUs like the Government did:
    http://mises.org/daily/5658/Is-Social-Security-a-Ponzi-Scheme

    Imagine that. Shill Dave’s Liberal Progressive cohorts took people’s money away “for their own good”, and then proceeded to spend that money until it was gone. Now, as a result, the system operates hand-to-mouth with the unfortunate young people being forced to fund the payouts to current retirees, with a high likelihood of never receiving their own payouts when they retire.
    Wow. What kind of demented minds bought into that scam?

    • TheOriginalDaveH

      If that’s a fact, Shill Dave, you should have no problem proving it with a link.
      The Poverty Rate is as high now as it has been since 1966:
      http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/50/Number_in_Poverty_and_Poverty_Rate_1959_to_2011._United_States..PNG

      • TheOriginalDaveH

        What a load.
        Sure when you give people money they didn’t earn, they will be better off. But what about the people that money came from? See charts below from 1959-2010:
        http://stateofworkingamerica.org/charts/poverty-rates-by-age-1959-2010/

        Note what has happened to all the other groups under age 64.
        The Oldsters’ benefits come at the expense of everybody else.
        And unless we can establish a parallel universe in which those same people didn’t suffer the forcible taking of their money via Social Security, there is no factual way to say what their financial condition would have been.
        That doesn’t even consider the immorality of taking people’s
        money against their will for “their own good”.

  • TheOriginalDaveH

    Yes, Forced. Anytime somebody is compelled by Law to do something, it is Force. Government is Force. That’s why Liberal Progressives like Big Government. Normal people would not voluntarily participate in their hare-brained schemes.
    The Supreme Court is a branch of the Federal Government. The Federal Government was established by representatives from each of the States. Does anybody in their right mind think that those representatives would have voluntarily given the Federal Supreme Court the Final decision in whether a Federal Law was Constitutional or not?
    Here is the Constitution for anybody who would like to show us where in the Constitution the Supreme Court was given the Power to be the Final Arbiter:
    http://www.cato.org/pubs/constitution/constitution_en.html

    It’s time for nullification:
    http://mises.org/daily/4811

  • TheOriginalDaveH

    Yes, Forced. Anytime somebody is compelled by Law to do something, it is Force. Government is Force. That’s why Liberal Progressives like Big Government. Normal people would not voluntarily participate in their hare-brained schemes.
    The Supreme Court is a branch of the Federal Government. The Federal Government was established by representatives from each of the States. Does anybody in their right mind think that those representatives would have voluntarily given the Federal Supreme Court the Final decision in whether a Federal Law was Constitutional or not?
    Here is the Constitution for anybody who would like to show us where in the Constitution the Supreme Court was given the Power to be the Final Arbiter:
    http://www.cato.org/pubs/constitution/constitution_en.html

    It’s time for nullification:
    http://mises.org/daily/4811

  • TheOriginalDaveH

    He didn’t say what she said, Ignoramus.
    But here are Pelosi’s exact words:
    “we have to pass the bill, so that you can, uh, find out what is in it, away from the fog of controversy”.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lAt54NKsRRk

  • Harold Olsen

    The left claim they care about the American people. They claim they want the shutdown to end. They refuse to negotiate, putting lies to both claims. They do not give a damn about the America people. Nor do they care about the country. The left are America-haters through and through. Anything bad for the country, they are for. They demonstrate this over and over again.

  • http://personalliberty.com/ Bob Livingston

    Dear Dave the bigot,

    You write: “Here is what Bob Livingston is lying about…” Then proceed with a cut-and-paste list of claptrap. Specifically, what in the article was I “lying” about?

    Best wishes,
    Bob

    • http://personalliberty.com/ Bob Livingston

      Dear bigot Dave,

      Again, specifically, what about the ACA was I “lying” about? Please answer without your usual ad hominem and red herrings and other logical fallacies.

      Best wishes,
      Bob