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The Crazy Joe Show!

August 18, 2012 by  



 
Biden has the answer — but to the wrong question. Supersize this, Gabby Douglas! And Paul Ryan had Obama’s “dream job.” All this — plus — Sorry, Soledad. Presented in 1080 hi-def, FOR FREE! It’s The Great Eight, from the Personal Liberty Digest™!

Ben Crystal

is a 1993 graduate of Davidson College and has burned the better part of the last two decades getting over the damage done by modern-day higher education. He now lives in Savannah, Ga., where he has hosted an award-winning radio talk show and been featured as a political analyst for television. Currently a principal at Saltymoss Productions—a media company specializing in concept television and campaign production, speechwriting and media strategy—Ben has written numerous articles on the subjects of municipal authoritarianism, the economic fallacy of sin taxes and analyses of congressional abuses of power.

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  • Michael J.

    Dear Ben,
    In the state where I reside, travel on the interstate highway in a situation such as the aft photo you presented us with of The First Couple would require signage, “Wide Load”.

    Is there a doubt in anyones mind that Obama, and therefore Holder’s reluctance to prosecute The Black Panthers has enabled them to commit acts of terror/harrassment at will without fear of retalliation?

    I hope Biden stays right where he’s at. Perfect poster boy portrayal of the designated white guy dunce who was supposed to bring balance to an otherwise racist regime. His latest goof parrellels “The Dean Scream”

    • nc

      Michael J. a person who ends a sentence with “where he is at,” can call someone else a dunce? Hello?????

      • JOeW

        If you can not discuss substance shut your mouth up….real tight.

      • http://YAHOO.COM Irene Grooms

        Well are you saying you’er a dounce?

      • BOOKER T

        Your a shill for mental midgets, you cannot write very well.

      • JeffH

        Has anyone else ever noticed that nc has a propensity to respond to other comments with questions, in particular about Republicans and Bush, even though Bush is long gone and Obama now owns the presidency, the wars and the economy? This dose seem to be a common trait of liberals and progressives like nc.

        “All living souls welcome whatever they are ready to cope with; all else they ignore, or pronounce to be monstrous and wrong, or deny to be possible.” – George Santanaya

      • Kate8

        JeffH – Wow. That is a profound quote.

      • sam1966

        Here is one for nc (no cajones) about Joe Biden:

        http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0812/79776.html

        FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

        You need both love of country and fear of God to be a pariot.

      • eddie47d

        I see Samurai changed his calling card. I sure hope it changed you attitude.

        • http://naver samurai

          I had to change it because I joine this gravatar thing. As far as my attitude, NOPE! I shall continue to speak the truth about ou founding and continue to fight against the progressives.

          “The problem with our liberal friends is not that they are ignorant, just that they know so much that isn’t so.”

          Ronald Reagan

          FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

          You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot.

      • http://yahoo.com organicroseski2

        nc, you will have to call Microsoft Word 2010 a “dunce (program),” also. It looked fine to me ,and then I checked with Microsoft–no underlines!!! The bottom line: I liked the video, and I do think Biden should stay in.

    • eddie47d

      I see the Black Panther card is being played over and over again to enthrall the hollowing right wingers. There was no direct intimidation against anyone so time for you all to get over that story. People have actually died in the Civil Rights struggle and have been killed trying to vote. Your concern should be on that intimidation not some hyped up story to please your wicked senses. How about being concerned about a new bust of Nathaniel Bedford Forest being erected in Selma Alabama very soon,(On public land) It was just approved by their city council. Remember he is the founder of the KKK and a champion of voter intimadation. Bedford Forest also personally oversaw the slaughter of 600 black union soldiers at Fort Pillow during the Civil War. I bet that was his high moment in life or was the founding of his famous racist group more pleasing? Also remember that Selma is known for Bloody Sunday where the Klan with the aid of the police beat up marches demanding the right to vote. Now that is real intimidation or do you care Michael J ?

      • Bruce Inman

        Ah yes, Bedford the original racist democrat. Really, the NBP threats are over played? I don’t think so. They need to be prosecuted for hate crimes just like the left wants to prosecute Christians for reading the Bible.

      • Kate8

        eddie – Someone sent me that email. My response was this: why don’t we hear a peep from the Lefties about the cries for death to crackers, and blowing up cracker nurseries? Why don’t we hear outrage about the Mexican racist groups openly calling for the killing of whites? Why are whites silenced about the racism against them, but other races are encouraged to spew hatred and openly call for violence?

        Excuse me if I don’t bleed too much about this. It’s time we stopped coddling minorities as if they don’t have the mental capacity to take a little heat. As if they are incapable of handling “hurt feelings”, or as if they are like a nest of hornets which cannot be held accountable for their being stirred up. This is the ultimate in racism.

        Many thousands of whites died during the civil war, fighting to free the slaves from the southern democrat slave owners. Democrats were adamantly opposed to the whole civil rights movement until MLK Sr. made a deal with JFK that, if he would rescue MLK Jr. and promote their civil rights movement, he’d deliver the black vote. It was an alliance borne of opportunistic pursuit of power via a new voting block that the democrats fought to prevent, but saw a new way of enslaving blacks. All they had to do was start screaming racism at every issue and point the finger at the Right for what they were, themselves, about. And they’ve been at it ever since.

        And then they took MLK out in order to martyr him and escalate their control, insuring that they held the power of this cause for all time.

        Further, I spoke with a friend who lives in Tennessee, who made the point of how much they’d resent having say, California, tell them what kind of monument they could erect in their own town. Must you guys be so focused on controlling, not only what everyone can do, but what everyone can think, as well? We do know the answer to that. You guys glorify anyone who spews hate against whites, but react with faux indignation when you can manage to interpret any kind of slight against a person of color.

        My friend thought this petition was a noble cause until I explained a few things to him. He is the perfect example of how emotionally people react when they are ignorant of all the facts. I truly believe that this is the crux of the liberal masses. They just are never interested enough to explore the full story, so they react based on one-sided, emotional response.

        Shame on you.

        • http://hotmail Larry

          Kate 8,
          I see you are a person that does her homework before posting. Very refreshing to read your posts because they make sense. I’ve never posted here before, but read from this site all the time. Comments such as Jay’s take away from the basic point of any topic discussed on this site and just take up space, Don’t know why I let that moron suck me into reading his reply.

      • JeffH

        Larry, nice of you to compliment Kate8 then lower yourself a few notches by calling Jay a moron. Far from it…there is a method to his posting and a message.

        It’s a free country for now and unless you are a liberal/progressive there was no real need for you to act like one.

        Jay’s one of the “good guys”.

      • Mo Better

        There is no intimidation from the NBPP – they’re just a miniscule group of welfare collecting N.A.P.A.’s shooting off their mouths. (Oh, N.A.P.A. stands for North American Porch —’s. You can fill in your best guess) Anyhow, they don’t frighten anyone – they are outnumbered almost 8:1 and are surrounded… surrounded by people who are much better armed, better trained with better equipment and more ammo and who are now getting more pizzed by the day.

        So eddie47d, when they’re ready to do their thing after burning down their rat hole ghettos in the inner cities, why don’t you lead them out into the ‘burbs? We have the warmest welcome they’ll ever see by way of a whole range of calibers. Come on out and play fake thugs. Do it! Did I mention that it may be beneficial to our shooting skills that we use black silhouette targets? Just sayin’

      • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing Jay

        Hey Larry, did you read it right to the end? Lol…!

      • Larry

        You do know that the kkk was founded by the democratic party?Skinheads based from naziism? Naziism on the socialist party,and a form of communism.All adored and followed by liberals and democrats.I am still baffled to this day as to how the black race got involved so strongly with the very people who wanted them to not be free and not have the same rights as you and me.Facts are it has always been the republican party who liberated you and what did they get for it.Your moronic attitudes and switch to the side who has berated you from the beginning.The most successful of you are the very ones you hate the most because they were the real smart ones and never fell for the bs dems have been filling you with.The black panthers are just another hate orginization who come this election better have more than two standing there cause I have a feeling there will be some real *ss whippings

      • Kate8

        Larry – That’s kind of easy. You know how the democrats love to say how they are for the “little people”, and they do things “for the children”. Barf. People who are not especially politically savvy lap this stuff up, especially if it comes with a promise of a piece of other people’s cake.

        This is how governments become corrupted. They pander for votes, and then commit crimes against common law in order to secure their position. Peope quickly learn that they are for sale, and they are deluded into thinking that they’re really going to get something. What they get is barely enough to get by, but enough not to be motivated to work. Hence, they become dependent on government, and sell their souls for a pittance.

        The blacks weren’t very educated, and not well aware of how politics are run. MLK made a deal with the devil delivered the black vote because they trusted HIM. The myth was then firmly in place, and ears were shut down to rational thought.

        In order to keep this lie going, the democrats had to shift the blame for what they were doing onto a skapegoat, and they had to yell the loudest. And they had to make it about race, because it really was racism. But theirs…not ours. Hence, the Right became unfairly labeled, and if they ever try to talk about it, the Left screams “racism!” and the talking stops. Classic transfer of blame.

      • mr_bad_example

        homie, Robert KKK Byrd, a Democrat, was a grand kleagle of the KKK… i wonder what would happen if i wore a white hood and brandished a nightstick outside my polling place in wonderful Woodridge, IL to all the dedicated black voters of my community… i’d be locked up in 5 minutes!

      • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing Jay

        Thanks for looking out, JeffH.

      • Kate8

        Jay – Ya know we love ya, and love your posts. Keep ‘em coming.

      • Kate8

        And, btw, eddie.

        http://www.wnd.com/2012/08/genocide-looms-for-white-farmers/

        Ahem. Let’s all hear it for racism.

      • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing Jay

        Thank you, Kate8!

      • Matrix

        eddie states,

        “Your concern should be on that intimidation not some hyped up story to please your wicked senses. How about being concerned about a new bust of Nathaniel Bedford Forest being erected in Selma Alabama very soon,(On public land) It was just approved by their city council. Remember he is the founder of the KKK and a champion of voter intimidation”.

        The KKK is another creation of the democrat/progressive/Satanist movement.

        Albert Pike was also one of the creators of the KKK, Pike was said to be a genius (as most liberals consider themselves to be) at various stages of his life we was a poet, philosopher, frontiersman, soldier, humanitarian and philanthropist. A 33rd degree Mason, he was one of the founding fathers, and head of the Ancient Accepted Scottish Rite of Freemasonry, being the Grand Commander of North American Freemasonry from 1859 and retained that position until his death in 1891. In 1869, he was a top leader in the Knights of the Ku Klux Klan.
        Pike was a Democrat/progressive/ Satanist, who indulged in the occult, and he apparently possessed a bracelet which he used to summon Lucifer, with whom he stated had constant communication.

        The communist/progressives are the same people that started the NAACP, and the civil rights movement.

        By creating an entire culture that is anti-American, make that culture dependent on the side of government that fights for communism/anti-American values(democrats) and keep that culture as ignorant as possible, hence we have the new “African American” culture.

        These anti-Americans have the nerve to place their ancestor’s home in front of their true home, as if anything good has ever come out of Africa!

        Since 1974, over two and a half TRILLION dollars in Americans Tax and charity has been wasted on Africa and not one change has occurred!

        As we see here in America, you cannot change the ignorant. You can educate them, but then you have educated idiots like eddie and nc.

        The most impoverished black family in America lives a million times better than 90% of their so called ancestor’s in their beloved Africa.

        If they have problems, it’s most likely caused by another black that wants what they have, and unfortunately, most black males think they are “entitled” to take what they didn’t earn.

        This is another burden of the “African” culture that America must carry, with our prison system bursting out of control because of its 70% “African” population.

        Seventy percent of a hundreds of billion dollar industry is another waste of our Tax Dollars, another massive burden.

        The hundreds of billions of tax dollars wasted on a culture that spews out children just for the free Tax payer cash they receive for each child, is a sin created by the democrats that need this slave culture to keep its sick progressive (the destruction of capitalism/America) movement alive.

        Before 1962, only 18 percent of black children were born out of wedlock, now over Seventy percent of blacks born in America have been to single women.

        Then we have the cause of their ignorance, the dropout rate.
        Fifty percent of blacks drop out of high school, and never earn their free education, and the ones that do graduate have an eighth grade education thanks to “no child left behind” (another scam by progressive GW Bush to enslave their culture).

        For many years, Hollywood was controlled by another “minority” that cried injustice at every chance.
        These progressive/communist are in control of our banking system, education, media, news papers and now have passed satans torch to the “Africans” to take over Hollywood and bring the moral tone of America deeper into the ring of fire. (Has anyone noticed how black your television is lately?)
        So eddie, It is you that should be concerned with the people and the party you seem to devote much of your time and soul to, because when you sleep with the devil, you’re bound to get burned!
        God bless America and 4% of intelligent/America loving blacks that voted against the obamanation in 08!

      • sam1966

        Say ed-duh, since you are for the little guy, why don’t you look at this and tell me why the little atheists are picking on a big, bad Christian high school?

        http://www.americanvision.org/6252/massachusetts-and-some-of-its-god-history

        FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

        You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot.

      • Michael J.

        eddie47d,
        Pointing out incidents that occurred long ago is a stealth way of saying “Look what I inherited”. While that line of thought is no longer acceptable, Black Panther intimidation is a clear and present
        danger in the here and now.

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5SzKk5_qunk

      • Michael J.

        eddie47d,
        Black Panthers in their own words:

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVcfymOvoUo&feature=related

      • Bob Button

        Yes I do remember who Forester was, He was a Democrat. As were most slave holders, as were most Segregationists, as are most Leftists.

      • Kate8

        Very good points, all. And Matrix, loved your post. Well stated, and oh, so true.

        Leftists have always emotionally hopped on to noble-sounding causes without knowing the real origins and purpose. This is because they indoctrinated into one-sided thought patterns, and refuse to look at the whole picture. They remain ignorant and ill-informed by choice. They are no different from the blindly religious whom they love to ridicule.

        The communists openly stated that the democrat party is their tool for conquest of America. They refuse to hear it. Now both parties are consumed, and it’s down to us vs the government. This could only have happened with our (the people) cooperation.

      • eddie47d

        The difference is Kate 8 the BP’s have not followed through on their threats. No ‘crackers” have been racially killed by them. Blacks have been racially killed by the KKK. Now do you see the difference or will you keep those blinders on? Basically the BP’s and the KKK can say whatever they want. You know the Free Speech thing.It’s when they act on the violent rhetoric where the harm to society comes in. Now tell me how many folks the KKK have killed and how many the BP’s have extinguished in racially motivated attacks . Then get back with me.

      • eddie47d

        Ditto to Michael J. You also know the Free Speech thing or can only those on the right makes ungracious comments to offend others. Same question I posed to Kate 8 . See you later!

      • eddie47d

        Larry: The KKK were not Liberals they were staunch CONSERVATIVES. Southern Democrats were staunch CONSERVATIVES. Nazi’s are to the right of the political spectrum and Liberals are to the left. You think you can comprehend that instead of spewing misinformation?

      • JeffH

        Matrix, just read your post…excellant summation!

      • Matrix

        Kate8,

        If more women in this world thought as you do, our world would be perfect!

      • eddie47d

        So apparently Jeff didn’t notice Matrix’s dig at Jews on Hollywood or didn’t Matrix think we would notice? Our banking system is hardly controlled by Progressives or Communists so both Matrix and Jeff have clouded minds. Now Jeff please tell us “how black our TV’s are” since you are so agreeable with his tripe. When you overlook someones racist conjectures you then become the same in acceptance. So much for that “excellent summation” which tells us exactly where you really stand.

      • JUKEBOX

        They are probably going to erect a statue of that other Democrat Klansman, Senator Robert Byrd, right beside Nathan Bedford Forrest.

      • mtman2

        Well folks, are “WE the People”, closer OR NOT to all men are “CREATED EQUAL”? Then let’s move on…forward please! Thanks again- mtman2

      • http://naver samurai

        That’s true for all men are created equal for we are equal in the eye’s of God. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

        You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot.

      • Smilee

        samurai says:
        August 22, 2012 at 8:52 pm

        That’s true for all men are created equal for we are equal in the eye’s of God. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

        Then why is it Sammie that you want so bad to deny that equality to gays and all the other groups you have such deep bias and hate for, seeing as you now say all are equal in God’s eyes. You speak with fork tongue! Would it now be appropriate to ask if you really believe in God or is this to you the justification for you hatred for so many of your fellow man after all in so many of your posts you use his name to justify your biases and hatreds. Time to come clean now Sammie.

      • http://naver samurai

        Wrong, wrong, wrong smilee. We may be equal in the eyes of God, which is true, but we are to hate sin and abhorr evil. Being gay is a perversion of what God has created. I don’t dislike gays as people, just the lifestyle, which is a sin in the eyes of God. Other groups we just have different views on politics, beliefs, religion, and about our Christian founding. People like you, who spread nothing but lies, rhetoric, innuendo, and hatred are the ones many of us are fighting against. Notice no one agrees with you and you wait till everyone is done before you post here? Aren’t you the coward? This describes you. everything it says about evil people describes you.

        This know also that in the last days perilous times shall come.
        For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, without natural affection (gays), truce-breakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good, traitors, heady, high-minded, lovers of pleasure more than lovers of God; having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.
        For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with diverse lusts;
        ever learning and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth (like you and your ilk). Now as James and Jambres withstood Moses, so do these also resist the truth: men of corrupt minds, reprobate concerning the faith.
        But they shall procede no further: for their folly shall be manifest unto all men (as we all know it on this site), as theirs also was.

        2 Timothy 3:1-9

        These things describe you to a “T”. Especially the part about you seeking truth, but never able to understand it. Or if you wish to, read Matthew 23. Everything that Jesus said about the scribes and pharasees are also an accurate description of you. Since you want to know, yes, I do believe in God and Jesus. I know there is a heaven and hell. I also know that you and your ilk will be feeling some massive heat when you go to the hereafter. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

        You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot. 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!

    • http://www.facebook.com/david.a.deal David A Deal

      Booker T, it’s you’re, not your, so if you’re going to criticize writing get your grammar right!

      • http://naver samurai

        As long as I can comprehend what they are saying, spelling is a non-issue. FOR GOD AND COUTRY!

        You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot.

  • Palin16

    Has anyone noticed that now suddenly all the illegal aliens have proper IDs in order to signup for Obummer’s work permits, but the libtards say it’s an inconvenience or discriminates against the poor for showing IDs to vote? Here’s one example:
    http://www.lvrj.com/news/hope-replaces-deportation-fears-for-undocumented-immigrants-166371826.html

    • nc

      Palin 16, do you really believe that requirement of voter Ids was motivated because of evidence of large scale voter fraud instead of trying to reduce the number of would be Democrats voting? Really????? Adult independents are watching for your truthful answer!

      • JimH

        nc, Anyone who lives near a Chicago cemetary knows the real answer to your question.
        YES. It’s as easy for a Dem as it is a Rep to get an ID. Unless You’re saying anyone who would vote Dem is at a mental disadvantage.(you may be right,nc)
        Keep a camera on Biden 24/7. I need the laugh.

      • Chester

        Jim, it might be easy to REGISTER a grave, but have yet to see one walk into a polling station and vote, even without proper ID. Seems that if you aren’t known to the poll workers, some sort of identification is required other than the registration card the county mailed back to you. Do a bit of research and you will find very little fraud at the polling stations, and places where it is fairly easy to pull off require only that you walk in and request a mail in ballot, or send in a request by mail. Then, as long as the name and address are registered, you can get an absentee ballot. If you plan on committing voter fraud, those are the places you need to worry about, not being able to present a picture ID that, regardless of the cost of the ID card itself, can cost a fair chunk of money just to get all the necessary backup paperwork,

      • eddie47d

        Voter fraud is rare and nothing more than smoke and mirrors in an attempt to spread falsehoods. The few cases that do occur are generally minor incidences where no one is prosecuted because there is no proof of deliberately trying to scam the system. There are a few cases of over eager workers registering voters who are not eligible but those name are weeded out when the list is turned in.

      • JimH

        Chester, My wife is an election judge, so I know how it’s “supossed” to work.
        We live in a small village so it is your neighbors that you know.
        In a large urban area, where an election judge may be sent to a different precinct, they don’t have that advantage and fraud is that much easier.
        My point to nc is I’ve had ID (drivers lisence) since I was 16. You need to show ID to cash a check, use a credit card, etc. I’ll bet even nc has a form of ID. If the election judge has reason to believe someome isn’t a valid voter, asking for ID should be acceptable.
        And ,yes, an election judge won’t catch the corruption of the Chicago cemetary vote, that goes much higher. The state Attorney General won’t look into it because she gets votes fron there too.

      • Warrior

        Yes nc and chester. I live in crook county and every trick in the progressive playbook is employed. Been there, done that. Have you been this naive all your lives or do you just support whatever activities your “team” justifies to itself to win? Those are “our” real values as the the famous mayor “tiny dancer” speaks of. Don’t even attempt to justify your position because either you haven’t experienced it firsthand, or you just support this activity.

      • Tomf

        What bothers me (for what that’s worth) is why there’s no “hue & cry” over the dims saying that it’s dimo’s being hassled over the ID issue, and/or “early voting”. Why is it assumed (by the dims) that it will be only dims affected? Anybody seen anything to prove that BOTH parties won’t be equally required to ID themselves? Let’s recognize it’s the doj pushing to stop voter ID requirements, and we KNOW where that comes from don’t we?? ‘Course, if there are concerns about voter fraud, why is it we’re only hearing objections from the dims?
        Sorta makes me wonder.

      • JimH

        Tom, You say it makes you wonder, but I believe you already know.
        You make a valid point.

      • Karolyn

        The other day I head part of a story about a 90 year old woman who had brought suit against the voter ID law. In rural areas, like where I live, it is difficult for the poor and elderly to get out to obtain ID. Of course, our lovely Gov. Haley was quoted as saying she would drive people for ID. Needless to say, that came back to bite her. Speaking of, this Tea Party darling got her 14 year old daughter a job in the State House for the Summer. Isn’t that swell? While so many Carolinians are out of work. Can you say “nepotism?”

      • JimH

        Karolyn, If this 90 year old can make it to the polls to vote, I’ll bet she could make it to the DMV to get a state ID.

      • Sirian

        Karolyn,
        OK, you heard “part of a story”. Since you only heard “part of it” don’t you think it would be wiser to find out the rest of the story before making any judgements one way or the other? BTW, look into what all went on in a not so far neighbor – Georgia – when it comes to voter ID. You may be surprised as to what was offered by the state, the battle that ensued, who won and to what the end results have in reality (proven by election voter counts) accomplished. Neal Bortz had a hay-day when all of this was going on. Finally, “nepotism” focused on a fourteen year old girl? Haven’t you anything better? You really scratched that one out of the bottom of the barrel, didn’t you? Now go get that book I recommended to you and read it.

      • Big Woody

        I have recently moved from a very Republican county in Michigan to Flint. A democratic stronghold. When I went to vote I used to be greeted by “Hi Woody, May I see your voter registration and driver’s license?” When I voted in Flint I was greeted with “Good morning, may I see your voter registration and drivers license?” Other than the fact that the poll official was a white male and knew me in the past, the proceedure was the same. I was not profiled or made to feel out of place in Flint. I am sure there are many inaccuaracies in the registration process like the fact that the Gov of Florida was listed as deseased (wishful thinking by some). Proper identification and maintence of the voter rolls should be minimal requirerments if our system is to function properly. When Al Gore and Rand Paul are delayed by TSA to board planes until they can prove proper ID, we can only guess how messed up each and every voting precinct can be.

      • Mike in MI

        Chester -
        Yah, I agree getting all that pesky backup paperwork can be really a hassle.
        This government of our PEERS hardly ever makes any requests (uh-hm, “demands”) for ID to make certain they can track us and they know we are who WE, as citizens say we are, we are, we am(howz ‘zat, nc?). That is, unless you want to be a Democrud presidink. Course, maybe that very problem of documents is being swept away by recent Executive Orders the embarrassment-of-documentation prince and princess at 1600 Pennsylvania A Venue (for anti-Americanism on steroids) signed to assuage his need to “feel” legal.
        What an absolute charade!!!
        Hell, we don’t even know if those two are really married, do we? Wouldn’t it beat all if they are just shackin’ up? And they’re pullin’ welfare, too…everthing they qualify for plus everything they can sneak past the caseworker.?
        Actually…it might not surprise me in the least. They ARE progressives. WHY be concerned about scruples?

      • Palin16

        Yes nc, I do believe it is voter fraud that favors the democraps because such people are either on welfare or looking for some kind of government handouts. Watch “Dreams from my Real Father” where a reporter doing exit polls in Chicago after the 2008 election asked a guy if he had voted yet, and the guy answered “yes, twice!” Recall the election of Frankin in MInnesota where his opponent had the most votes on election day but somehow Frankin pulled it off and thus became the tipping point for Obamacare. I renewed my driver’s license earlier this year and it cost me a whopping $22. That comes out to $5.50 per year for 4 years. I simply cannot believe anyone can not afford that. This is why Obummer is giving backdoor amnesty to these illegal aliens now.

      • Kate8

        I just have one question: Is there really anyone in the US who does not have some form if ID? How is that even possible in a country where the government has been hell-bent on absolute control of everyone?

        If a person cannot prove that he is even a citizen, why should they be able vote? Of course, it can only benefit the democrats when the majority of voters are on entitlements and cast their vote for whoever promises them more plunder from those who actually earn the money. How is this in any way fair? You know that what this does is to make sure that those who have anything to protect from you have no voice.

        You libs well know that if a person has no ID, there is a good chance that they are not a citizen, either. But then, you are not particular about from where you get the votes. Heck, you don’t even require voters to be human, or even alive. So why would you want them to have any ID.

      • Kate8
      • Palin16

        Excellent link, Kate

      • http://www.facebook.com/david.a.deal David A Deal

        We all know the true nature of these voter ID laws in Republican controlled states. There would be NO arguement from those of us on the left if these laws had a 2-4 year grace period so everyone would have an ample chance to know the requirements and be given pamphlets when they go to vote detailing them. But eliminating virtually non existent voter fraud is NOT the aim here and they have a Republican official on tape admitting it. So FACTUAL Slapdown to those who claim otherwise!

      • Palin16

        David Deal, you’re just covering for the illegals so they can vote for your man and your party. Remember what Alinsky taught: it’s not that the ends justify the means, but that this PARTICULAR end justifies this PARTICULAR means. This is the same rule for radicals that Harry Reid used to steal the last election from Sharron Angle by rigging the voting machines the same way they rig the slot machines in Las Vegas.

      • Kate8

        Really, David? That’s weird…I just read an article a day or so ago about some dem group that was just convicted of major voter fraud. And let’s not forget about ACORN and SEIU.

      • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing Jay

        The argument that the voter ID requirement was introduced to prevent voter-fraud is more plausible then your suggestion that no voter-fraud existed prior, nc.

        In the ’08 campaign, Republican Sen. Norm Coleman was running for re-election against Democrat Al Franken. It was impossibly close; on the morning after the election, after 2.9 million people had voted, Coleman led Franken by 725 votes.

        Franken and his Democratic allies dispatched an army of lawyers to challenge the results. After the first canvass, Coleman’s lead was down to 206 votes. That was followed by months of wrangling and litigation. In the end, Franken was declared the winner by 312 votes. He was sworn into office in July 2009, eight months after the election.

        During the controversy a conservative group called Minnesota Majority began to look into claims of voter fraud. Comparing criminal records with voting rolls, the group identified 1,099 felons — all ineligible to vote — who had voted in the Franken-Coleman race.

        The election was particularly important because Franken’s victory gave Senate Democrats a 60th vote in favor of President Obama’s national health care proposal — the deciding vote to overcome a Republican filibuster. If Coleman had kept his seat, there would have been no 60th vote, and no Obamacare.

        John Fund and Hans vonSpakovsky have written a book that chronicles voter fraud called, “Who’s Counting?” Here is part of a review:

        Authors John Fund and Hans von Spakovsky have presented hard evidence that voter fraud (some of it well-organized), combined with incompetence, alleged “reforms,” and bureaucratic indifference have undermined the popular trust in America’s most precious right: picking our leaders.

        The metaphoric but iconic “Lady Liberty” would have to be in tears as this documented study cites example after example of such fraud as 1.8 million dead people are still registered to vote; illegal aliens have been voting, including one assassin of a Mexican presidential candidate who voted in California twice

        So, the next time someone argues with you about voter fraud, remind them of the Franken race. Next time someone argues that showing an ID is somehow repressive, tell
        them that when voter fraud occurs, even a small amount, it makes ALL of our votes not count. That is wrong. Capish?

      • Bill

        Did you not see the piece where a white man walked into the poling place in D.C. and asked if this was the place to vote for Eric Holder and the pole worker was going to give him the poling paper to vote without ID, which he did not take and said “I will go back to my car and get my ID, Then did not return. For your info Eric Holder is black and the attourney general of the U.S.. Guess it really does’t take much to commit voter fraud.

      • sam1966

        NC, Karolyn, ed-duh, and David, the SCOTUS has already ruled on this in 2008.

        Crawford vs. Marion County Election Board 2008

        The SCOTUS ruled that to vote you must:
        1. Be in person.
        2. Have a valid state pcture ID.

        Ergo, you need valid ID to vote. Looks like the SCOTUS got one right. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

        You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot.

      • Smilee

         Kate8 says:
         August 18, 2012 at 8:56 pm

         Really, David? That’s weird…I just read an article a day or so ago about some dem group that was just convicted of major voter fraud. And let’s not forget about ACORN and SEIU.

        Kate: ACORN AND THE SEIU OR ANY OTHER GROUP CANNOT VOTE AND NEVER HAVE, ONLY INDIVIDUALS AND THEY DO SO IN THE PRIVACY OF THE VOTING BOOTH AND THERE VOTE THEIR CONSCIENCE REGARDLESS OF HOW THEY GOT REGISTERED AND YOU CANNOT PROVE OTHER WISE ANY MORE THAT I CAN. TO GIVE A FRAUDULANT REGISTRATION CARD IS A FELONY ONLY IF YOU MISREPRESENT YOURSELF, ONLY THE INDIVIDUAL CAN FALISFY THEIR REGISTRATION NOT THE ORGANIZATION OR an INDIVIDUAL THAT ASSSISTED THEM IN REGISTRATION. There have been many of names like Micky Mouse etc registering but as far as anyone knows those have never showed up to vote. One must wonder if people opposed to groups such as you site above have joined these groups with the intent to defraud them which is a real possibility too, do not forget that.


         Jay says:
        August 18, 2012 at 9:00 pm

        The argument that the voter ID requirement was introduced to prevent voter-fraud is more plausible then your suggestion that no voter-fraud existed prior, nc.
        In the ’08 campaign, Republican Sen. Norm Coleman was running for re-election against Democrat Al Franken. It was impossibly close; on the morning after the election, after 2.9 million people had voted, Coleman led Franken by 725 votes.
        Franken and his Democratic allies dispatched an army of lawyers to challenge the results. After the first canvass, Coleman’s lead was down to 206 votes. That was followed by months of wrangling and litigation. In the end, Franken was declared the winner by 312 votes. He was sworn into office in July 2009, eight months after the election.
        During the controversy a conservative group called Minnesota Majority began to look into claims of voter fraud. Comparing criminal records with voting rolls, the group identified 1,099 felons — all ineligible to vote — who had voted in the Franken-Coleman race.
        The election was particularly important because Franken’s victory gave Senate Democrats a 60th vote in favor of President Obama’s national health care proposal — the deciding vote to overcome a Republican filibuster. If Coleman had kept his seat, there would have been no 60th vote, and no Obamacare.
        John Fund and Hans vonSpakovsky have written a book that chronicles voter fraud called, “Who’s Counting?” Here is part of a review:
        Authors John Fund and Hans von Spakovsky have presented hard evidence that voter fraud (some of it well-organized), combined with incompetence, alleged “reforms,” and bureaucratic indifference have undermined the popular trust in America’s most precious right: picking our leaders.
        The metaphoric but iconic “Lady Liberty” would have to be in tears as this documented study cites example after example of such fraud as 1.8 million dead people are still registered to vote; illegal aliens have been voting, including one assassin of a Mexican presidential candidate who voted in California twice
        So, the next time someone argues with you about voter fraud, remind them of the Franken race. Next time someone argues that showing an ID is somehow repressive, tell
        them that when voter fraud occurs, even a small amount, it makes ALL of our votes not count. That is wrong. Capish?

        THE MN MORAL MAJORITY CLAIMS WHEN FULLY INVESTIGATED BY LAW ENFORCEMENT IN THE PRECINTS WERE IT WAS ALLEDGED IT WERE FOUND ONLY 89 VOTES WERE FOUND TO ACTUALLY BEEN ILLEGALLY CAST. iT IS BELIEVED THAT 40% (35 VOTES EACH) OF THESE VOTES MOST LIKELY WOULD HAVE GONE TO EACH CANDIDATE AND 20% (19 VOTES) WOULD HAVE BEEN SPIT. . FRANKEN GOT OVER THREE HUNDRED MORE VOTES THAN COLEMAN IN THE RECOUNT AND IF YOU GIVE THE 19 VOTES OR EVEN ALL 89 TO COLEMAN HE WOULD STILL HAVE LOST. COLEMAN’S OWN LAWYER’S WHOM REPRESENTED HIM IN THE RECOUNT PUBLICLY STATED REPEATEDLY THAT THEY SAW NO FRAUD IN THE ELECTION AND THE OUTCOME WAS FAIR AND CORRECT. THESE LAWYER’S ARE WELL RESPECTED BY BOTH PARTIES IN THE STATE AND HAVE A REPUTATION FOR BEING HONEST. i LIVE IN MN AND DESPITE THE BEST EFFORTS OF THE MN MORAL MAJORITY WHOM STARTS ALL THESE RUMORS. THEY HAVE FAILED MISERABLY REPEATEDLY IN PROVING WHAT THY SAY IS TRUE BUT LAW ENFORCEMENT DOES INVESTIGATE ALL THEIR CLAIMS AND THE RESULTS JUST PROVES HOW BIG A LIAR THEY ARE. You are just repeating these lies and beware any book that is partisan motivated, the Coleman/Frankin race proved in Minnesota that we have almost nil voter fraud in MN and what fraud that was found was not enough to even turn around this race even though it was so close. The recount was did under the maximum of public scrutiny by mostly those whom had republican party affiliations with the one exception of our SOS Richie so any claims of democrats pulling a fast one is pure fiction as only one democrat had any power in the recount and all the republicans and independants on the recount board agreed with the outcome and said it was fair and the right outcome was made. That’s the truth and all I have said is a matter of record here in Mn. Check it out you will find it is the truth. You are right on one thing it was Franken’s vote that made Obamacare possible, without it we would not have that law, he also proposed the amendment to it that make it now law to a maximum of 15% or 20% of premium dollars having to go for payment to providers and now they have to refund the excesses to the the policy holder and recently the insurance companies have paid back billions of dollars. Do you think that reduces your cost of health care??

    • JUKEBOX

      You can’t rent a stroller at the Mall without a picture ID. Which is more important, renting a stroller or votng?

      • Smilee

        Renting a stroller is not a constitutional right, voting is, you are comparing apples to oranges so to speak. If picture iD denies the right to vote to even one legal voter then that persons constitutional rights are trampled on. Burden of proof has always been on the state and your rights cannot be taken away without due process of law and therein is the difference between voting and strollers or any other reason you are asked to show a picture id. As an example you can use a credit card online or phone and not show a picture and not all in person use of it requires it and some do. Voting laws apply to everyone other uses of it do not necessarily do.

      • sam1966

        It seems that smilee has forgotten the Scotus ruling of Crawford vs. Marion County Election Board 2008. The SCOTUS ruled that you must be present in order to vote and you need a state issued picture ID card. Ergo, if a person is turned away due to not having ID, then that person messed up and their rights are not trampled on. It is the law of the land. BTW, the Marion County Election Board is in Marion County, Indiana. Just another example of Indiana doing it right, also the SCOTUS getting one right for a change. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

        You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot. 하나님과 국가 대 한!

  • http://aol malcoolmX

    Joe Biden in front of a “hot mike” equa’s thousands of votes for conservatives;; keep him there. He reminds me a lot of HOWARD DEAN****YEEHAH

    • Mike in MI

      Joey “Plugsey” Biden in front of a “hot mike”?…God forbid…..
      The idea leaves me cold and shudders running up and down my back!!!

    • http://www.facebook.com/david.a.deal David A Deal

      Joe is a salt of the earth regular Joe kind of guy who appeals to the average voter who admires character over a few silly gaffes. The man rode the train to work every day to be with his family every evening. He lost most of his original family in a car accident and has a sincere sensitive heart. To criticize a man like that to me is just low.He gets genuinely choked up at appropriate times but doesn’t turn into a babbling cry baby at everything like Boehner who I might add has money invested in Canadian Oil and had a clear conflict of interest in the Keystone Pipeline addition, which by the way the Canadian Oil companies refused to guaratee a single drop of that oil that would travel all the way across our country to the gulf would stay in US. They can get more money for it and the refined gas overseas which is why half the US Oil companies send oil overseas while we then have to import it. The whole system is rigged by big oil and their Republican (oil subsidy supporting) friends to maximize profits and screw the average citizen while tanking our economy with excessive energy costs!

      • Karolyn

        Very good points, David. It seems that conservatives only like good family men from small towns if their conservatives. If Joe Biden was a conservative, they would stick up for him.

      • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing Jay

        Ronald Reagan in his diary June 15, 1987 refered to Sen. Joe Biden as;
        “pure demagogue”

        dem·a·gogue: a leader who makes use of popular prejudices and false claims and promises in order to gain power.

        Sounds like the the Obama / Biden ticket is a two for one sale.

      • sam1966

        First, can you name a poltician that has no conflct of interest in anything? I sure can’t. Second, here is what a small business man thought about Joe Biden.

        http://www.freedomoutpost.com/2012/08/small-business-owner-sends-biden-packing-you-didnt-build-that/

        FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

        You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot.

      • JeffH

        David A Deal, LMAO! Joe Biden would make a great host for Elks Lodge dinners, Moose Lodge dinners and celebrity roasts…after that his usefullness is limited to pandering for a “community organizer in chief”.

      • JUKEBOX

        Unfortunately, Joe the Motormouth chose to lie about the truck driver, saying that he was drunk, which was proven to be false, by statements of the investigating troopers. A man that would lie about that belongs in a room with Jerry Sandusky.

      • Smilee

        sam1966 says:
        August 19, 2012 at 12:46 am

        First, can you name a poltician that has no conflct of interest in anything? I sure can’t. Second, here is what a small business man thought about Joe Biden.

        http://www.freedomoutpost.com/2012/08/small-business-owner-sends-biden-packing-you-didnt-build-that/

        SAMMIE, YOU ONLY EVER POST GARBAGE SITES LIKE THIS ONE/. DO YOU EVER READ ANY OTHER SITES THAN GARBAGE SITES?????????//// IF NOT THEN THAT EXPLAINS WHY YOU ARE SO IGNORANT OF FACTS AND REALITY.

      • Smilee

        Ronald Reagan thinking he is one does not necessarily make it so and you have to admit it would be a partisan thought

      • sam1966

        Wrong, wrong, wrong smilee. This was an actual account of what happened. Why is it wrong? Because you say so? Ha, ha, ha, ha! You make me laugh, you know that? If you want to read something funny and full of lies, read this:

        http://www.freedomoutpost.com/2012/08/obama-campaign-manager-obamas-recovery-stronger-than-reagans/

        Now even you have to admit that this is nothing but lib/progressive propaganda. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!

        You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot. This leaves you out.

      • Smilee

        sam1966 says:
        August 27, 2012 at 12:31 am

        It was nothing more than Reagan’s opinion and he is entitled to that but that does not mean his opinion is true and many many people do not believe it. I see your still only being able to come up with garbage sites that simply fry your little pea brain. Unfortunate

      • sam1966

        That’s just like you idiots who say there is no God. Just because you say so, doesn’t make it true either. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!

        You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot. This still leaves you out smilee.

        http://www.blacklistednews.com/Jerome_Corsi%3A_Evidence_Obama_was_married_to_Pakistani_man/20931/0/0/0/Y/M,html

        • Smilee

          Sammie, your really do get into some very sick websites and this is one of the sickest one I have seen as it is all lies, it fascinates me how drawn you are to this and the cruel lies we see spread by so many today and you too spread lies, surly you know lying is a sin and not Christian behavior.

      • http://naver samurai

        Here’s another one for you smilee, or whatever your name is:

        http://www.clashdaily.com/2012/08/obama-courts-the-dumb-butts-vote-opinion/

        This sounds like you and the other voters who support Obama bin Laden. Speaking of being a Christian, I suggest you remember thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor. Also, you need to get rid of your arrogant attitude and seek help for your superiority complex. It must be hard walking around this world knowing you are not any more special than anyone else. Actually, you’re very small. What would an atheist know about being a Christian except nothing. What proof and evidence can you provide that shows atheism is accurate and correct? Since leading atheists can’t answer that question, I don’t expect you to either. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!

        You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot. This counts you out.

        • Smilee

          WOW are your frustrations starting to show big time, you have totally run out of anything intelligent to say (that may be giving you more credit than you deserve as you really never had much) so now you have resorted to throwing out cruel and untrue statements that only a person total lacking in character would do. It must be tough being this frustrated

      • sam1966

        Actually, I’m not frustrated, but kind of enjoying talking to someone with a childlike mentality. So now you throw things at me about being a Christian, but how can you do that when you know nothing about God, Jesus, and the Bible?

        “The fool sayd there is no God within his own heart.”

        Psalms 14:1

        I suggest you remember that. No matter what things you post about science, this will do you no good come the day of judgement. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님과 국가 대 한!

        You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot. In which you have neither.

        • Smilee

          I’m very familiar with the Bible and but do not use it to feed into my biases as you appear to do so much of the time. I never questioned you being a christian just wondered if so much of your behavior and love of lies was christian like behavior, most Christians I know and I do too believe your behaviors often display these sins of yours.

      • http://naver samurai

        Please stop looking in the mirror smilee. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!

        You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot.

  • http://aol malcoolmX

    EQUALS [SORRY]

  • Nobody’s Fool

    Chester, you need to check with ACORN, oBlamer’s voter fraud machine. They know how to bilk the system and stuff the ballot box. People have been stuffing ballot boxes for years, but do you honestly believe the illegals getting IDs will not enable them to vote? What are you smoking, fella?? And who do you think they will vote for? Their savior, oBlamer, that’s who. These people have not come here legally and do not deserve the rights of citizenship. This is another good reason to make English the official language, and then ballots will not be printed in half a dozen languages. Hey, you’re in MY country now, SPEAK ENGLISH!!!!

    • http://YAHOO.COM Irene Grooms

      RIGHT ENGLISH IS OUR LANGUAGE AND IF THEY CAN’T SPEAK THAT THEY NEED TO LEARN OR GET OUT OF OUR COUNTRY.

      • Big Woody

        I don’t care if they leave the country, but they should not be allowed to be citizens or get the right to vote unless they speak English. You must speak English get a commercial driver’s license so you can drive a commercial vehicle in Michigan

    • eddie47d

      If that were true there would be numerous cases of voter fraud being prosecuted in this nation. Our jails would be packed if what you say about voting is true.Even the cases where citizens are caught are rare and generally thrown out for lack of real evidence. Two important thing about your comment on illegals voting. One they will not jeopardize staying in this country by taking a chance of going to the polls and being arrested.Two they still wouldn’t be eligible so that means they couldn’t vote for Obama or even Romney for that matter. You sir are proving yourself to be the angry fool!

      • Kate8

        eddie – That’s dumb. Illegals are given more rights than citizens these days, and they have no fear whatsoever. In fact, our government is arming them against us.

        Have you forgotten that Odumbo has as much as given them all a free pass? He has instructed ICE that they are not to enforce immigration law. That is the same as holding the gate open for them.

      • sam1966

        Why wouldn’t Obama bi Laden support them, since he is an illegal himself.

        http://www.politicaloutcast.com/2012/08/no-voter-id-means-more-democrat-voters-in-november/

        Bu with the 2008 ruling by the SCOTUS in Crawford vs. Marion County Election Board, there should be no doubt that valid picture ID is required. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

        You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot.

      • eddie47d

        Considering that illegals probably work much harder than Kate 8 they should reap the benefits that are offered to anyone (citizen) in their position. Another thing the US is not ” arming illegals” . I suppose you meant Mexican citizens on the Mexican side of the border but we do know how confused you can get.

      • JUKEBOX

        We had a convicted drug dealer in our town who voted in two elections for her daughter, and the District Attorney would not prosecute her, because of family ties to the DA’s office. That kind of sounds like Eric Holder’s office.

      • sam1966

        If they are illegal, then they are breaking the law by being here ed-duh. Ergo they are entitled to nothing but a ride back to their mother country. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

        You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot.

      • vieteravet

        ter fraud? When coleman beat Franken some poll worker found 23000 votes in the trunk of her car; presto Franken wins. No voter fraud my a$$!

      • Smilee

        vieteravet says:
        August 26, 2012 at 12:39 am

        ter fraud? When coleman beat Franken some poll worker found 23000 votes in the trunk of her car; presto Franken wins. No voter fraud my a$$!

        YOU WILL BELIEVE ANY LIE WILL YOU NOT, THE TRUNK OF THE CAR ALLEGED INCIDENT WAS A RUMOR GOING AROUND THAT WAS FULLY INVESTIGATED AND FOUND TO BE TOTALLY NOT TRUE. THE 2300O VOTES WAS A CLAIM MADE BY THE MN MORAL MAJORITY AND WHEN FULLY INVESTIGATE ONLY 89 VOTES WERE FOUND TO ACTUALLY BEEN ILLEGALLY CAST. iT IS BELIEVED THAT 40% (35 VOTES EACH) OF THESE VOTES MOST LIKELY WOULD HAVE GONE TO EACH CANDIDATE AND 20% (19 VOTES) WOULD HAVE BEEN SPIT. . FRANKEN GOT OVER THREE HUNDRED MORE VOTES THAN COLEMAN IN THE RECOUNT AND IF YOU GIVE THE 19 VOTES OR EVEN ALL 89 TO COLEMAN HE WOULD STILL HAVE LOST. COLEMAN’S OWN LAWYER’S WHOM REPRESENTED HIM IN THE RECOUNT PUBLICLY STATED REPEATEDLY THAT THEY SAW NO FRAUD IN THE ELECTION AND THE OUTCOME WAS FAIR AND CORRECT. THESE LAWYER’S ARE WELL RESPECTED BY BOTH PARTIES IN THE STATE AND HAVE A REPUTATION FOR BEING HONEST. i LIVE IN MN AND DESPITE THE BEST EFFORTS OF THE MN MORAL MAJORITY WHOM STARTS ALL THESE RUMORS. THEY HAVE FAILED MISERABLY MANY TIMES IN PROVING WHAT THY SAY IS TRUE BUT LAW ENFORCEMENT DOES INVESTIGATE ALL THEIR CLAIMS AND THE RESULTS JUST PROVES HOW BIG A LIAR THEY ARE. ITS YOUR A&& AND I HOPE THE SPANKING I GAVE YOU WAS NOT TO HARD ON YOU. HOPEFULLY YOU LEARNED SOMETHING FROM IT.

      • sam1966

        SSDD, eh smilee? FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님과 국가 대 한!

        You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot.

    • Karolyn

      I know damn well “illegals” can’t vote here even if they have fake ID, and I live in a Democrat county. Our poll workers are elderly and very diligent.

      • Big Woody

        We all have seen how dilligent the elderly poll workers were in Florida. Is your great aunt Hildie any better off than my uncle Fritz down in Homestead?

      • Palin16

        Why the quotes around illegals Karolyn? Maybe it’s different in SC than in Chicago. Ever heard of “the Chicago Way”?

    • Sirian

      Nobody’s Fool,
      Take a look at this article from back in ’09 about what was going on with ACORN out here in the Okie Territory. . . :) Chester should read it too.

    • Mike in MI

      Well, gee…It probably would tae too much time in some stupid class if they lerned English.
      Why be so silly as to think they would want to communicate with US??
      They’re just here to get a job, send money home to the drug lords (or Calderonistas) holding their family hostage until somebody decides to annihilate a bunch of them. Besides that, it might look suspicious to somebody if thy were caught talking to del Nortes.
      Obama wans hem here so e can learn firsthand how to control such a program for when he wants to set something similar up.
      Then he can send su packing up to Canada. The Ghetto Conman knows what he’s doing.

      • JUKEBOX

        Go to any WalMart, and see how many in those groups of 5 or 6 are speaking English.

  • BOOKER T

    ALL politicians should be tested for ALCOHOL USE, AND HAVE TO TAKE SENILITY TEST AFTER THE AGE OF 65.

    • JimH

      BOOKER T, We could call it the Teddy rule.

    • Karolyn

      You are obviously a youngster. If I would have to guess, I would guess that a large number of those who post here are over 65, so I would watch what I say if I were you. I’ll have you know Grandma Moses didn’t start painting until she was in her 80s. I went back to school at 62 three years ago.

      • Big Woody

        Don’t forget that Colonal Sanders didn’t have the cash to start Kentucky Fried Chicken until he started drawing Social Security. How ’bout that Karolyn? I’m on your side for a change?

      • Palin16

        Sidney Greenstreet, one of the actors in “Casablanca”, made his film debut at age 60.

    • Big Woody

      Sorry Booker T. We have a Constitutional Amendment that give us the right to drink. I dont know about senility tests but an IQ test should be given to ALL politicians before they run for office and every year thereafter.

      • http://www.facebook.com/katharine.kimball Katharine Kimball

        Big Woody, I would prefer they had to take a “common sense” test. I think their IQs are not a problem, but it seems many are lacking in common sense.

      • Mike in MI

        KK -
        Such a test in Washington, DC would be sought out and destroyed as contraband.

      • Kate8

        How about a test in their comprehension of the Constitution?

        How about a test of their loyalties?

        How about an automatic trigger, that if they, in any way, go outside the Constitution in the execution of their office, they are immediately removed from office?

      • sam1966

        I agreewh all of you and the points you all have made, but which Amendment is that Big Woody I can’t find alcohol or drinking listed anywhere. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

        You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot.

      • vieteravet

        Literacy test should be given to anyone who wants to vote, that should be mandatory!

      • Smilee

        Kate8 says:
        August 18, 2012 at 3:21 pm
        How about a test in their comprehension of the Constitution?

        YOU SURE YOU WANT TO DO THIS AS YOU WOULD SURLY FLUNK SUCH A TEST

        How about a test of their loyalties?

        LOYALTIES TO WHAT????????????????? Don’t you believe in individual freedoms

        How about an automatic trigger, that if they, in any way, go outside the Constitution in the execution of their office, they are immediately removed from office?

        sam1966 says:
        August 19, 2012 at 1:02 am
        I agreewh all of you and the points you all have made, but which Amendment is that Big Woody I can’t find alcohol or drinking listed anywhere. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

        TRY READING THE TWENTY-FIRST AMENDMENT, DUMMY!!

        You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot.

        vieteravet says:

        August 26, 2012 at 12:43 am
        Literacy test should be given to anyone who wants to vote, that should be mandatory!

        WHEN YOU FLUNK IT HOW WILL YOU FEEL????????

      • sam1966

        SSDD, eh smilee? Wrong, wrong, wrong smilee. All it did was repeal the 18th Amendment. Drinking at age 21 or more and obey the laws of the state you live in is mandatory, ergo it is not a right. It is legal, but not a right. It is the same with smoking and abortion. They are legal, but are not rights. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!

        You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot. BTW, how would you feel after failing such tests miserably?

      • Smilee

        Sammie

        It is so hard to understand the size of your ignorance cannot you understand anything. The 21st did repeal the 18th. The 18th took away your being able to drink alcohol and the 21st gave it back to you. It is so simple to understand that I’m having a hard time believing you are that stupid previously I did give you more credit for brains than now. Has your pea size brain shrunk some???

      • http://naver samurai

        Like I said before smilee, drinking is legal if you are 21 years old, don’t operate any motor vehicle after driving, don’t be disorderly, or any other offense. Speaking of the 18th Amendment, why was it passed? It was passed when 2 large groups came together to protest the current situation of alcoholism in the family and society. These groups were church goers and women. Though women couldn’t vote yet, but they were in constant contact with their senators and congressmen. Alcoholism was the major cause of family poverty, hunger, child abuse, loss of jobs, and spouse abuse, so they cane together and had it passed. The strange thing is that 2/3 of the states ratified it before it became an amendment of the Constitution. Why is that? Since this nation was founded on Christian principles, what does it say in the Bible? Get not drunk nor drink strong drink thou. Least ye die and fall short of the Kingdom of Heaven. I also notice that you never answered any of my postings before this one, why is that? Is it because your litlle lib mind can’t argue against the truth I have posted? Just remember the next time you hear someone call Obama bin Laden a Christian, just look at them and know they are lying. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!

        You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot.

      • Smilee

        samurai says:
        August 27, 2012 at 6:53 pm

        None of those laws you speak of could have been written without the 21st amendment which was the topic. The bible has nothing to do with the Constitution but blabbler on big mouth, oh 3/4 of the states ratified it not 2/3 but then we know you are not familiar with the Constitution or anything else as you only speak in terms of hatred towards your fellow man. God never gave any of us the ability to know whom is a Christian and whom is not we just have to take each person’s word on that and as Obama claims he is a Christian then it is not my place or yours to say otherwise as Jesus said Judge not lest you be judged. I thinks you is a fool..

      • sam1966

        Wrong, wrong, wrong smilee. We will know who is a Christian by their faith, love, and works, but you have seemed to have forgotten that. Must be because you have none of the itmes mentioned in your heart or life. All our founders believed in God and were Christians, some more religious than others, so please stop with the lying. Here is one that shows how Christian faith of people are giving to the needy of this nation.

        http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/08/20/study-red-states-more-charitable-but-religion-more-factor-than-wealth/

        What’s this tell you about you and your ilk? FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님과 국가 대 한!

        You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot. In which you are no patriot.

        • Smilee

          Sammie, there you go again thinking you can know peoples hearts that God has clearly made clear he is the only one who can, like I have said before you are a very confused person. Does not matter to me if you think me or anyone is a Christian or not but the fact is I am. Beware playing GOD as that to is a fantasy for those whom think they can. I also know it is a part of the Morman faith and because it is then it is reasonable to wonder if Romney thinks he can become a GOD. Are you a Morman???

      • sam1966

        Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor smilee. Since I don’t play God, nor do I think I am God, the response you made is irrelevent to the subject at hand. You say you are a Christian? By how I read the posting you write I don’t think so. Be careful invoking the name of the Lord and be careful about what you lay at the Lord’s feet, as you will have to answer for it in the here after. Sook Young and I will be praying for you and you wretched soul. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님과 국가 대 한!

        You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot. This will always leave you out.

        • Smilee

          Then quit acting like you are GOD, It is you whom claim to be able do know if I am a Christian and only GOD can know that. it is you whom are bearing false witness against your neighbor. God does not look kindly on fools either.

      • sam1966

        Then he will not look favoribly upon you. You say that you are Christian, but attack peoples Christian beliefs, Christian founding, and anything coming from the Bible. Ergo, you are no Christian. How I told you how you can tell who is a Christian can be found in the Bible. I suggest you sit down and really read it one day. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!

        You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot. This leaves you out.

      • Smilee

        sam1966 says:
        August 28, 2012 at 10:58 pm

        I never attacked your Christian belief I merely pointed out the sins you so blatantly displayed

      • sam1966

        Refer to my previous posting. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!

        You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot.

  • jopa

    Instead of the crazy Joe show it could be the Crazy Paul Ryan show.The Romney campaign wants him to talk about camping, milking cows and fishing to get everyones mind off of his budget plans Romneycare, Seamus and his tax returns.I think the Mutt Rummy pulled a Boo Boo picking this guy.Vouchergate will probably be their biggest obstacle and result in their defeat.

    • JimH

      jopa, and that makes Crazy Joe seem smarter, how? What’s your point?

      • Oneguess

        JimH, jopa’s “point” is the top of his head.

    • http://www.facebook.com/katharine.kimball Katharine Kimball

      Jopa, Medicare will not change for those 55 and over. The rest will have a choice of vouchers or the present medicare. Under the present system, medicare will be broke by then. Furthermore, since Obama has taken money out of medicare to fund obamacare, many doctors and hospitals won’t even treat medicare patients because of the low reimbursements. What good is having medicare if no doctor or hospital will accept it? BTW, I don’t care about Romney’s taxes. If he didn’t pay them I’m sure the IRS would have already come after him. If he only paid the required amount, I don’t care if it’s only 13 percent since that’s all he’s legally required to pay. If this administration doesn’t like that, they could have changed the tax laws during the first two years of Obama’s administration when he had a majority in the Congress and Senate.

      • JeffH

        Katharine Kimball, well said. Pay no mind to jopa whose just another Obamaphile and board troll.

      • Smilee

        Katharine Kimball says:
        August 19, 2012 at 1:21 pm
        Jopa, Medicare will not change for those 55 and over. The rest will have a choice of vouchers or the present medicare. Under the present system, medicare will be broke by then. Furthermore, since Obama has taken money out of medicare to fund obamacare, many doctors and hospitals won’t even treat medicare patients because of the low reimbursements. What good is having medicare if no doctor or hospital will accept it? BTW, I don’t care about Romney’s taxes. If he didn’t pay them I’m sure the IRS would have already come after him. If he only paid the required amount, I don’t care if it’s only 13 percent since that’s all he’s legally required to pay. If this administration doesn’t like that, they could have changed the tax laws during the first two years of Obama’s administration when he had a majority in the Congress and Senate.

        RESPONSE:
        Katharine you are spreading a lot of misinformation in your post, first Ryan changed his proposal so there is no effect on those older than 55 and those under will have a choice and since he did this he has refused to have the CBO score his new proposal and his old one was more expensive than what he now claims Obamacare will cost, he is now saying over 700 billion but that is their own scoring it not an independent or CBO scoring and further independents that have look at it say his plan is at least as expensive as he claims Obamacare is, now this is their latest spin, they used to say he cut 500 billion out of medicate but now they use the larger figure which is their own. The 500 billion that they previously quoted was a cut in over payments to insurance companies in Medicare C that Bush and the republicans passed into law in 2003 and 2004 which paid the companies in Medicare C 14% more that the government paid for Medicare B seniors so the new Obamacare law now only allows Medicare to pay the Medicare C insurance companies the same as what Medicare B costs, this was a correction of the overspending from the Medicare 2004 law therefore it was a cost savings and the benefits in both C and B were increased for all seniors to include annual exams and gets rid of the donut hole in Medicare D gradually by 2020 which is a big savings for seniors so there was a real positive for Medicare recipients both in costs and benefits. Obamacare according to the CBO scoring increased the life of Medicare an additional eight years because of these savings and this will not now not occur until 2022 without change so your statement on that is simply false. Money was put into Medicare and that if how the extended time was paid for. Romney and Ryan are telling this lie based on their own scoring and therefore it is dangerous to put any stock in it, if they want to be honest then they should have the CBO score it but then I think that would sink their BS. Doctors and hospitals closing or not taking Medicare patients is nothing more than scare tactics to get votes and putting off this screw job for seniors for ten years is simply to get the over 55 vote which they are desperately afraid will not vote for them if they did not and I will not vote for them because of him putting Ryan on the ticket and I admit that my children are just under 55 and I do not wish to see them lose all these benefits. Both SS and Medicare can be fixed easily if there is the will without shafting seniors. About Romneys’s taxes, no one has said he didn’t pay his taxes and the IRS only goes after those whom do not pay their taxes and no one thinks Romney did that, what most think is that he is hiding income off shore (this is legal) shelters so he does not have to pay any taxes on it which would greatly reduce his taxable income even if that rate was at 13% as it would be times a larger amount of money. He most definitely does not want to answer those questions if that were the case and none the less he has given us less of his income history than most have for years. His dad revealed 12 years when he ran for president, You seem to be very lacking in how Medicare has worked in the past and how it will work in the future if the Ryan plan became law, please get the facts and dump the rhetoric BS. They are proposing a nightmare for seniors and Romney lost my vote because of Ryan as he is too radical in his solutions and he has been very detailed in what he wants and Romney for the most part rubber stamped Ryan’s plan as his own with only minor changes.

      • sam1966

        Will this be before or after Obama bin Laden takes $500 billion dollars out of Medicare? FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

        You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot.

      • vieteravet

        Smilee’s an Obama cronie, I’m 57, my wife is 55; and we think the smartest thing Romney did was to pick Ryan.

      • Smilee

        sam1966 says:
        August 22, 2012 at 8:56 pm

        Will this be before or after Obama bin Laden takes $500 billion dollars out of Medicare? FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

        IF YOU UNDERSTOOD MEDICARE AND THE NEW HEALTH CARE LAW YOU WOULD KNOW THAT HE WILL NOT TAKE ONE DIME AWAY FROM MEDICARE RECIPIENTS OR MEDICARE B PROVIDERS ONLY THAT MEDICARE C PROVIDERS WILL NO LONGER BE PAID 14% MORE THUS HE GOT RID OF MEDICARE WASTE SPENDING THAT WAS CREATED BY THE REPUBLICANS IN 2004. BUSINESS’S CALL IT EFFICIENCY COST SAVINGS, SILLY YOU YOU THINK IS A CUT AND NOT ONE MEDICARE RECIPIENT LOST ANYTHING AT ALL.

        vieteravet says:
        August 26, 2012 at 12:47 am

        Smilee’s an Obama cronie, I’m 57, my wife is 55; and we think the smartest thing Romney did was to pick Ryan.

        ROMNEY PUT RYAN ON THE TICKET TO FIRM UP HIS BASE (WHICH YOU APPARENTLY ARE A PART OF) WHOM DO NOT LIKE HIM ALL THAT MUCH, PROBLEM IS IT MAY LOSE VOTES FROM EVERY OTHER PART OF THE ELECTORATE. FOR YOUR INFORMATION i HAVE VOTED FOR MORE REPUBLICANS WHO RAN FOR PRESIDENT THAN DEMOCRATS STARTING WITH GOLDWATER AND I HAVE VOTED IN ALL SINCE THEN.

      • sam1966

        Why is it that smilee mentions Barry Goldwater? Robert Smith and many other wackos always post his name. Tells what kind of losers this person attracted. Why don’t you check out the facts on this one?

        http://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/tom-blumer/2012/08/26/fact-checkers-awol-after-obama-spokesperson-lie-about-jobs-created-under-reagan

        FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님과 국가 대 한!

        You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot.

      • Smilee

        Sammie, I see you did not bother to address the points of my post, I guess you just do not understand it so you just punt with your typical below the belt shots. The Goldwater/Johnson race was the first election I could vote in my reference was I have voted in every election since then I could of said 1964 race and it would have meant the same thing. Again as almost always it went right over your head or your hating heart got in the way. Hate will do that to a person.

      • sam1966

        See my previous posting. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님과 국가 대 한!

        You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot.

    • JUKEBOX

      Jopa must believe that Obama is extremely proud of his magnificent record, and doesn’t want to distract all citizens from his miserable failures.

    • sam1966

      As always, jopa makes no sense. Here is one about Michelle bin Laden.

      http://www.victoriajacksonshow.com/3918/michelle-obama-deceives

      FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

      You need both love of county and fear of God to be a patriot.

      • Smilee

        Sammie, Is there any lie you will not believe if it fits your biases and hate for the Obama’s. Neither Obama or anyone else has ever said obamacare is free that is just rhetoric propaganda it will over time reduce costs but it will not get rid of taxes and that is what it would take to make it free. Some people are so stupid.

      • sam1966

        Are you sure about that smilee?

        http://www.townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2012/08/21/obamatax_taking_a_look_at_18_obamacare_tax_hikes

        Looks like you are wrong again, but what else is new? FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

        You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot.

      • Smilee

        There you go again sammie, another garbage site that fills your little peas size brain with lies and other garbage. To bad the real truth does not interest you at all but if it did you may have to admit your biases and hatred that are so much much of your life.

      • sam1966

        Wrong, wrong, wrong smilee. What I have posted is fact and you cannot prove me wrong. Care to cite a source to try to prove me wrong? No lip service either. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!

        You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot. This leaves you out.

      • Smilee

        FACT?????? You a big joke and a loser in a land of fantasy

      • sam1966

        I see that smilee has run out of things to say. I would say intelligent things, but you never bring any real intelligence to the table.

        “The problem with our liberal friends isn’t that they are ignorant, just that they know so much that isn’t so.”

        Ronald Reagan

        FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서! This leaves smilee out of the picture.

        You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot.

      • Smilee

        Sammie, we both know it is impossible for you to say anything intelligent as that takes intelligence which you have none of

      • sam1966

        Refer to my previous post. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!

        You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot.

  • FreedomRules

    Romney and Ryan are going to win by huge numbers, LEGALLY. O’bama’s finished!
    Can’t wait for the debates.

    • nc

      Freedom when the debates come and Romney has not released anymore tax returns are you going to believe him if he says that the other eight years are as “true” as the two he has released? Then why not release them? Is there such a thing as “too much truth” in a campaign??
      How much of Ryan’s voting record will you excuse and still find him qualified to be President is necessary? He voted for a lot of things that made the government
      bigger! How “small” is bigger??

      • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing Jay

        nc says:Freedom when the debates come and Romney has not released anymore tax returns are you going to believe him if he says that the other eight years are as “true” as the two he has released? Then why not release them? Is there such a thing as “too much truth” in a campaign??

        nc, when the debates come and obama has yet to release his authentic long-form birth-certificate, will you just accept the “fake” he has provided, and assume that everything else that is “fake” about the president is authentic?

        nc says: How much of Ryan’s voting record will you excuse and still find him qualified to be President is necessary? He voted for a lot of things that made the government bigger! How “small” is bigger??

        nc, how much of Obama’s voting record will you excuse and still find him qualified to be president is necessary. He voted for a lot of things that made government bigger! He also promised transparency, but we all know now that what he really meant was, “political transvestism”!

      • vieteravet

        If they bring up taxes in the debate, tell Obama to release his college transcripts; especially from Occidental, were he applied as Barry Soreto, with a Malasian citizenship!

    • Smilee

      DREAM ON SUCKER!!!

      • sam1966

        Can’t win with diminishing support from your own party, now can you? FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

        You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot.

  • http://YAHOO cca

    You Democrats are full of (expletive deleted); I have never met such (expletive deleted) as you are.
    How in the hell did you fail get any common sense? Cradle to grave government. Medicaid
    paid you hospital bill when you were born. Live in section 8 housing, food stamps for
    your food, government education for what little you learned. Never had a job, paid any taxes, but you DAMN WELL VOTE. If anyone wonders where America has been headed for 70 yerars, get your head out of your ASSS and wake up.

    • nc

      cca, where was the “common sense” when the Republicans controlled the entire Congress and the White House and the food stamp rolls got larger? The national debt got larger by record proportions? The number of Americans killed by terrorist increased? The number of Americans killed in bad wars began? The other “not so good things” that happened from 2001-2008???

      IS THAT THE ‘COMMON SENSE” THAT DEMOCRATS LACK??

      • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing Jay

        You nailed it, nc. Both parties lack common sense! Bravo!

      • http://YAHOO cca

        You knowledge of history is somewhat lacking. The Republicans did not control the white house and congress for 8 years. The increase in food stamps usage has expanded more under Obama than any other President. Call the wars whatever you want to, but consider that Obama has not closed Gitmo, nor has he stopped the war in Afghanstan. The muslims have taken over Egypt and are expanding in Syria. What is Obama’s position on the nuclear weapons that Pakistan has? If you want to compare history, I will take George
        W. Bushes economy over Jimmy Carter’s, LBJ’s, FDR’s Clinton’s and Obama. If you will get a chart reflecting the National Deficit, You will see that democratic congresses and democratic presidents are responsible. You may want to look at the numbers while Bill Clinton was President and you will see that the national debt continually increased during his presidency.

      • Smilee

        cca says:
        August 19, 2012 at 4:55 pm

        You knowledge of history is somewhat lacking. The Republicans did not control the white house and congress for 8 years. The increase in food stamps usage has expanded more under Obama than any other President. Call the wars whatever you want to, but consider that Obama has not closed Gitmo, nor has he stopped the war in Afghanstan. The muslims have taken over Egypt and are expanding in Syria. What is Obama’s position on the nuclear weapons that Pakistan has? If you want to compare history, I will take George
        W. Bushes economy over Jimmy Carter’s, LBJ’s, FDR’s Clinton’s and Obama. If you will get a chart reflecting the National Deficit, You will see that democratic congresses and democratic presidents are responsible. You may want to look at the numbers while Bill Clinton was President and you will see that the national debt continually increased during his presidency.

        RESPOND:

        No cca, the food stamp program was not extended it cost more because of all the people who lost jobs most before he became president but he never changed or expanded the program it is the same one that was in law when he took office. Are you aware that during Reagans years they created the earned income credit (wage subsidy program for underpaid workers) and in the mid nineties they greatly increased it and added child care credits, more section eight housing, day care subsidies, the little known secret is that the republicans created far more welfare programs than the democrats ever did and changed it so that working people became eligible, the earned income credit is only paid to underpaid workers with jobs and that was first under Reagan. The republicans were lobbied hard by big business lobbies for this so that they would not have pay decent wages anymore and that has become the case. When Clinton left office the debt was not increasing, yes we still had a big debt but were not adding to it that changed quickly under GWB. The rest of your post is things no American party or president can control so I will not respond to your BS on that.

      • sam1966

        Same old propaganda, eh smilee goebbels? FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

        You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot.

      • Smilee

        Sammie, there you go again, when will you ever be able to tell the difference between the truth and propaganda, there is not one thing I said that you cannot check out but you simply dismiss it by calling it propaganda and offer absolutely no evidence to make your stupid claim. Your a sad case sammie!!

      • sam1966

        Smilee, smilee, smilee, how many times do we have to tell and prove to you that Obama bin Laden has increased our debt more than any other president, so why do you attack Bush 43? Here’s another looloo from Obama bin Laden:

        http://www.patriotupdate.com/27914/obama-i-dont-think-anyone-would-suggest-ive-tried-to-divide-this-country

        Can’t argue about something that he recorded. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!

        You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot. This leaves you out.

      • Smilee

        More stupid childish babble from Sammie, you could check out my statements if you went to the official sites on the info instead of all those propaganda sites which you take as gospel when they are all spin and lies therefore it is impossible for you to prove anything as you need the truth to do that and the truth is not in you.

      • sam1966

        If you would post your sites then everyone would know which ones you are refering to. But alas! You need the ability to reason, think, and comprehend to do this, but smilee possesses none of these human qualities.

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-HqHSkYG-Y&feature=g-vrec

        It is about 9-10 minutes long, but it does present facts about Obama bin Laden. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님과 국가 대 한!

        You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot. This will always leave smilee out.

      • Smilee

        You sure to like wallowing in all that mud and garbage, for one who claims to be A Christian you sure get into the lies and untruths which Christians should not do as it is a sin. I know pigs like to wallow in garbage and mud but they are pigs what is your excuse??

      • sam1966

        Care to prove where I’m lying? Just because my views are different than your left wing extremist views doesn’t mean I’m lying. You never site facts nor do you post sources, so who is the one lying now? You expect someone just to take your word for something? Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor. I see an atheist can quote a Commandment, but they never go by them. BTW< what proof and evidence can you provide that shows atheism to be accurate and correct? If you answer this post, cite sources or I'll just ignore it. Here is one about why women should not vote for Obama bin Laden or the dumbocrats.

        http://www.godfatherpolitics.com/6759/why-women-should-not-vote-for-barack-obama/

        FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!

        You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot.

    • JUKEBOX

      That sounds like Al Gore’s biography!

  • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing Jay

    “DON’T TALK…..DON’T TALK…..DON’T TALK…..SMILE AND CLAP…..DON’T TALK”
    ~ Biden’s teleprompter
    Joe —”that old, obscure white guy standing next to that young, infinitely more charismatic (and clean) black guy”—Biden- is best known for being the Vice Presidential pick of President Barack “Pronounces Words Correctly” Obama.

    Obama, aside from being the first openly black president of the United States, is the only reason anyone will ever remember the name: Biden. His wife and children, prior to the 2008 Presidential Election, had frequently mistaken Biden for various pieces of household furniture and would often bring him to the local antique shop and have him appraised. This would later prove particularly embarrassing during an unfortunate appearance on the PBS program Antiques Roadshow.

    Biden was born November 20, 1942, and was one of four children. Joe Biden was allegedly born in Scranton, Pennsylvania, where 99% of all politicians call home. Biden is known for his public gaffes even in childhood, such as the famous incident where he asked FDR if he would “Stand up. Stand up, Frank; let them see ya…Oh sh*t, you’re a cripple, aren’t you?!.”

    Shortly thereafter, Biden became the first seven-year-old boy ever to run for president. Considered a shoo-in against mad scientist Harry “Kill Them Japs” Truman, Biden was disqualified from the 1948 presidential election due to his being both under 35 years old, and of course, being a child. Fearful of losing again, Joe Biden vowed to never run again until he was confident that his lack of lack of age, experience and potty training would not play a factor.

    After a brief stint as Neil Kinnock’s speechwriter, Biden found a career as a mildly successful adult film actor who starred in films such as the original “Deep Throat”, and much more. This is where he earned the nickname Joe “Bull Balls” Biden. He also became the leading face in Henessy ad commercials and played one of the old guys in Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers.

    In his line of work he met many politicians such as Nancy Pelosi and his future running mate Barack Obama. After meeting during an interracial threesome, Biden and Obama became fast friends and later ran in the 2008 election together for the Democrat vote.

    Though Biden has often been gaffe-prone and occaisionally threatened Obama with gun-violence, the two continue to be good friends.

    Biden was first elected in 1973 in the State of Delaware. Unfortunately, Delaware is one of the smallest states in the US, third only after Rhode Island and Queen Latifah. As a result, no one can recall having seen or heard of this “Joe Biden” until the 2008 Democratic Presidential Primary. There, he eventually (after three hard-fought hours) lost to two young, inexperienced and non-potty trained opponents.

    To add insult to irony, the eventual (after 12 years of campaigning) victor turned out to be Baracka Obama, the younger, less experienced and blacker of the two. Unlike Joe Biden, however, people actually knew his name and he even inspired a religious cult.

    Members of the cult believed Obama was the son of God, and would often bathe in fresh goat blood during ceremonies known as an “Baracka-brations”.

    In addition, during the general election, John McCain (R-OLD), a Republican much older and experienced than Biden himself, was also defeated. This victory officially made Obama the first Muslim/Mortal Kombat Character to be elected president.

    According to various sources, Joe Biden was also part of the 2008 Election Process, though no-one interviewed for this story even knows who or what a “Joe Biden” is. The majority of people surveyed thought he was some sort of new “Starbuck’s coffee-drink,” while the minority (mostly Bob Barr supporters) believed Joe Biden to be a “common sexual endeavor involving muskrats, anal beads and shaving cream.”

    On a recent episode of Family Feud, however, the survey found “anal beads” to be the #1 answer to the question, “Name something Barack Obama recently revealed at the Democratic National Convention.”

    Biden’s first memoir reached the top of the Best-Sellers list. His latest memoir, entitled “Joe Biden: I’m infinitely more intelligent than that more well-known (and more mentally handicapped) Sarah Palin who once had a dream about eating a giant marshmallow, and when she woke up, SHE COULD SEE RUSSIA RIGHT OUT OF HER WINDOW!!!

    I’m resigning!”, however, was the worst selling book of any kind ever produced in history. Ever. It even beat out such terrible literature such as Hitler: He’s the kind of guy you’d like to have a beer with…then kill nine million people and “Images of Nude Men on Cave Walls: No, those aren’t spears!”

    After the failure of his memoir (which took eight years to complete) and the thirteen made-directly-for-tv movies it spawned, Biden has since retired from the world of literature and has been, according to extremely unreliable and nerdy sources, active in the World of Warcraft community.

    He is also known to sacrifice several small chickens to the Phoenician god Baal with Asian prostitutes on a regular basis.

    Joe Biden’s favourite movie: American werewolves in paris.

    • Mike in MI

      Do you, Jay, lay awake at night dreaming these things up?

    • nc

      Jay, are you referring to VICE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES JOE BIDEN?
      EAT YOUR HEART OUT!

      Your source is Fox News??? COME ON, MAN! ADULTS ARE READING HERE! You don’t go to fox news for the truth! They are PAID to be biased!!!

      • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing Jay

        Hmm, speaking of being paid to be biased…but then again, you never made any attempts to hide it; did you, nc?

      • sam1966

        And the MSM isn’t? Ha, ha, ha, ha! FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

        You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot.

  • http://hotmail Larry

    You are a moron Jay! Take your Norco and go to bed already!

  • chuckb

    jay, most of these contemporary bolsheviks don’t remember their vice presidents past history.
    can you imagine he was considered an outstanding nominee for the bolshevik party in 1988 and guess what, they dumped him, he plagiarized a speech:

    “Biden announced his candidacy in June 1987, and was considered one of the potentially strongest candidates in the field. However, in September 1987, newspaper stories stated he had plagiarized a speech by British politician Neil Kinnock. Other allegations of past
    law school plagiarism and exaggerating his academic record soon followed. Biden withdrew from the race later that month.”

    biden is biden, he and barry make a team, both lacking.

    • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing Jay

      No, its not hard to imagine chuckb, not when you realize that the left-wingers live in a magical land of make-believe…

      • sam1966

        Yes,it is true. They live in the land of make believe. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

        You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot.

      • Smilee

        You ought to know sammie, that is your home!!

      • sam1966

        Alas! The same strategy of the personal attack smilee? Just like my post states, you live in the world of make believe. Just like Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, Kim Il Sung, and many others, your kind will lose in the end. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!

        You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot.

  • Kate8

    http://www.prophezine.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=650:the-russians-are-coming-yea-but-thats-not-all&catid=42:rokstories

    What is going on with the influx of Russian troops? It also does not escape me that, from what I’ve seen, they are pretty much all white. Are the Aryans, once again, behind the world collapse? (Rhetorical question.)

    Not only this, but our own government is arming them to the hilt with the highest tech equipment. Are they here to fight our own forces, should they be siding with the American people?

    Something is definitely afoot. The guv is really gearing up on the home soil. What are they hiding? What are they planning?

    • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing Jay

      The origins of the Communist movement can be found in the left wing of the Socialist Party and in the alternative political and industrial movements that sometimes cooperated with and sometimes combated the Socialists.

      This radical spectrum of groups and individuals did not ultimately set Communist policies, especially after the first turbulent years, but they did provide the first wave of American Communists. Their struggles and disputes also underscore the complex native-born and immigrant roots of the new movement.

      Left disaffection with the SP had two large components. By emphasizing an electoral politics, Socialists alienated members of the Industrial Workers of the World and many other militants who believed the road to revolution lay through direct or “mass” action. The same critics generally upheld industrial unions as the primary means of organizing and preparing the masses for revolutionary activity.

      In contrast to the IWW’s sanguine expectations, Socialists generally held a more realistic view of the problems to be confronted in creating mass industrial unions, and the long-run uncertainty of those unions’ political commitment. But in minimizing the importance of the foreign-born, and maintaining a bureaucratic leadership drawn for the most part from the early years of the movement, the SP alienated the post-1912 influx of new members, who felt themselves less than fully welcome.

      The SP position regarding world war, crucial elsewhere in fostering Left and Communist dissent, was not a major factor in the United States, despite rhetorical attempts to make it so. The precipitating factor, the October Revolution and the resulting Comintern, did not so much create as bring together earlier dissent and give it the slogans for a formal split.

      The Socialist Propaganda League, located in Boston with the support of the strongly pro-Lenin Latvian-American socialists, was the first to send out a call for American Socialist adherence to the principles of the Bolshevik Revolution. The Friends of the Russian Revolution, or Friends of New Russia, formed at the end of 1917, and the American Bolshevik Bureau of Information formed in 1918. Both provided positive information about the Russian Revolution to the general American public. like the first book popularizing the event, Louis Fraina’s anthology The Proletarian Revolution in Russia (1917), these phenomena were American in origin rather than responses to Russian initiatives.

      Although the Bolsheviks anticipated splits within the socialist movements as precursive to new communist parties, they had less direct influence in the United States than elsewhere. The course of the conflicts among the language-federation groups and those groups’ largely Pyrrhic triumphs within the SP proved decisive.

      Furious factionalism and preparations for a split incited moderate, essentially parliamentarist-inclined Socialists to stage their own walkout and to maneuver against a Left seizure of organizational power. Over a six-month period in 1919, a rump National Executive Committee was able to expel or suspend approximately two-thirds of the SP membership.

      The left wing now quarreled over the best course to pursue. A majority favored a continuing struggle within the SP, at least until the time of the next national convention.

      A substantial minority, led by the large and prestigious Russian Federation, called for the immediate abandonment of the SP. Naming itself the Communist Party, this group immediately turned its most bitter attacks upon rival leftwingers.

      The other, largely English-language group remained in the SP until duly expelled at the 1919 SP convention after a notable floor-fight; it then formed the Communist Labor Party. These battling twins faced, in turn, the Palmer Raids, which (along with the mass strikes of the day, and the brief anticipation of the Russian Revolution sweeping Europe) temporarily reinforced a near-insurrectionary sentiment.

      For the next three years, mostly “underground” but under the close watch of federal spies, the Communists accelerated the internecine propaganda war, largely against each other or against other Left groupings. Each of the parties sought membership in the Comintern, and each was told that Moscow would not favor one over the other and that they would have to unify. Each of the original Communist organizations suffered various schisms with departing groups often appropriating the organizational name. Efforts also continued to unite the multiplying factions into a single organization.

      In 1922 those who had remained in the original Communist Party of America joined with the United Communist Party (a merger of the Communist Labor Party and a faction of the Communist Party of America) to establish the Workers Party of America as a unified aboveground entity.

      The Workers Party of America was able to gain the adhesion of most other Communist formations within a matter of years, most notably the United Toilers of America, which had also presented itself in 1922 as an aboveground Communist party seeking unification. The new merger was named the Workers (Communist) Party, a name which prevailed until 1929 when it was changed to Communist Party, USA.

      Read the rest here, Kate:

      http://www.marxists.org/history/usa/parties/cpusa/encyclopedia-american-left.htm

    • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing Jay

      The Communist Takeover Of America – 45 Declared Goals.

      http://rense.com/general32/americ.htm

    • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing Jay

      Communist Party USA Reveals: We’re Using the Democrat Party.

      http://voices.yahoo.com/communist-party-usa-reveals-we-re-using-democrat-7328620.html?cat=9

      • Nadzieja Batki

        The surprise is that the internal Leftists and external enemies of this country can tell everybody what they have in store for us and we don’t have any sense of danger to protect ourselves.

    • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing Jay
      • Kate8

        Great work, Jay.

      • sam1966

        I second that motion. Remember the gold medalist in the video. I can’t understand why her thanking God would cause so much trouble. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

        You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot.

  • Palin16

    Take a look at this webpage which shows pictures of Barack Obama Sr., the supposed father of the president. They don’t look anything alike. No family resemblance whatsoever.
    http://www.theobamafile.com/_family/senior.htm

  • Kate8

    Another thing to think about.

    The NWO is apparently preparing Africa to be their next place of headquarters and prosperity. It is rich in natural resources and very beautiful.

    Now it makes sense: all the genocide, the funding of tin-pot dictators and Muslim groups to go in and kill off the negro factions of both Christians and Muslims. And the razing of the land, the slave labor to work the diamond mines… And let’s not dismiss the outbreak of Ebola un Uganda, which is spreading quickly… and is likely to decimate the African population even more. And… spread around the globe. Plus, they have used malaria for many years to cull the population, and vaccines to cause abortion and sterility (and grave illness). (Did you know that when the medical “missionaries” go into their villages with their vaccines, the women and children try to run away, because they’ve seen what happens to children and mothers…)

    Then, we should also consider how many refugees from these third-world places have been brought to the US and placed upon our already over-burdened social services. Why have they allowed (in fact, recruited) the flooding of the uneducated, the unskilled, and the culturally misfit into America? Multiculturalism is a ruse. It never is a good idea. It is for nothing but the purpose of further division and weakening of our country. And it’s worked.

    So, here we are. We are being collapsed. What do you suppose they are planning to do with millions of hungry people who have no means of survival? Provide soup kitchens for us? NO! They will do what they always do…kill us off. We are of no value to them except as a “human resource”, and when we are no longer needed…

    The culling has, indeed, begun here as well. And it’s obvious to anyone who is not blinded by normalcy bias that something big is being anticipated here in America. And we’re not being let in on it, but are, rather, being left to speculate, or sit back, as usual, in our collective state of denial.

    We’d best get over our self-importance, because it is purely an illusion.

    • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing Jay

      Kate, i think you will appreciate this site.

      http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/

    • cawmun cents

      “Everyone here should endeavor to learn the Ebola handshake,which is really just bumping sleeved elbows together as you quickly pass by……haw!”-CC.

      “Test yourself with fire and ice,sand and sea,blood and bile,before your enemies do.”
      -Hannible Barca

      Gaining more personal control over our lives means (1) taking more responsibility;as well as (2) disciplining and (3) challenging ourselves both physically and mentally before our environment and/or our adversaries do.

      Since a progressive never thinks that we can think that deeply,maybe we should learn to come up with other forms of productive reasoning that help instead of hinder us.
      Like refusing to elect them.

      “Eyes given to see are not always open”-Voltaire

      It is obvious to all but the weak-minded that there are no concise ideas coming from Washington,so the reasonable conclusion is that it is a bastion of progressives.
      To rely upon wizardry and wordcraft to dazzle the dull,and baffle all with high-sounding speech,we must come to the knowledge that these things come form Ivy league elites which all believe that the populace at large are moronic.This combined with the media circus which is our information ages Alamo,the tendency for people to be under educated is gigantic in scope.

      “One of the secrets of dominating power lies in exciting similarity of feelings by adopting for the time being those those which are within the compass of the person whom we wish to influence.”-Taishi Yoritomo

      Ah….the subtlety of convincing others that you understand their position and have walked in their shoes.You can tell them anything they want to hear,as long as they believe they share comonality with you.This is how marxism is pushed in the universities and then accepted as briiliant by the youthful marks in our educational academies.

      “When you cannot be decieved by men,you will realize the wisdom of strategy.”
      -Mushashi

      The youth of he nation are easily bilked out of a decent education by those running the current system of academic standard.It is because they do not want to raise the wisdom levels,rather that they(marxists)indoctrinate,so that the level can remain under their supervision.They have formed a cult of cultural secularism,dedicated to keeping those who they both fund and teach under the gun of mediocrity.The design being that of influential outcome in future endeavors.

      “Confusion is my method.The moment I see you accumulating something,creating a philosophy or theology,I immediately jump on it and destroy it.”
      -Bhagwan Shree Rajneesh

      The ultimate act of brainwashing is to suppress information at a rate wher it can be delivered as the deliverer desires.

      Worthwhile advise to help us to weed our garden,while planting seeds of influence in our adversary’s garden.That is where we need the influence of God in our daily lives.
      Not the seeds of hate and discord that are sown by our enemies,but seeds of hope and love,which come from the influece God has in our nation.

      But what do I know?
      Apparently very little…….
      Cheers!
      -CC.

    • sam1966

      Here is a small victory against the NWO

      http://www.zionica.com2012/06/21/town-defies-atheist-group-reinstitutes-public-prayer/

      FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

      You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot.

  • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing Jay

    When the president tells us that if you are the founder of a business you did not create it, and the vice president tells us that entrepreneurs intend to put workers in shackles, in order to achieve their reprehensible goals of personal enrichment, they are speaking the same language, and it is their native tongue, from childhood.

    Why would Biden have such contempt for financial success? For one thing, his father was rich before Biden was born, but lost everything and struggled financially for most of Biden’s life, before becoming a used car salesman and managed to keep the family afloat.

    It is a handy psychological trick for Biden to imagine that his father’s plight was a fluke, having nothing to do with poor judgment or lack of skill, making him no different than businessmen who succeed—except, perhaps, that those entrepreneurs are willing to climb over other people and hold them down and chain them to desks or an assembly line. Biden’s dad was too good for that, he can reason, instead—hurt by a system that rewards people who enslave others.

    That’s why Biden is happy to serve with a man named Barack Obama who tells Americans that, even if they did start companies, it doesn’t mean that they’re smart, because they didn’t really start those companies, anyhow. Everyone else let them use the roads and the tax structure and the rest of our society to put their businesses together—which kind of makes American businesspeople out to be Pharaohs building pyramids using (now, please really listen here . . .) slave labor.

    Biden is also hostile to the notion that individuals can have, well, real individual gifts, because he lives at a distance from his own truth—whatever that may be, which he does not know. That’s what fuels his contempt for those who act with authenticity to create their destinies.

    Remember, this vice president lied about having three undergraduate degrees, when he only has one. He lied about going to law school on a full merit-based scholarship, when he went on a half-scholarship based mostly on financial need. He lied about graduating in the top of his law school class when he graduated near the bottom. He admitted to plagiarism during law school and plagiarized a speech while running for president in 1987.

    An imposter in life, without a true, authentic, core self based on reality, cannot honor and applaud and support the genuine gifts, ingenuity or entrepreneurship of others, especially if part of the lie he lives is the belief his father was laid low by capitalism.

    No, it is not an accident that Barack Obama chose to run with Joe Biden. They both have a profound contempt for those arrogant oppressors who think they are exercising real gifts, unique to them (which, by the way, they must express through honesty and character, which are not in great supply in this White House). It is to such people that Barack Obama and Joe Biden assign the blame for the most painful, devastating events in their lives.

    Oh, and one other thing: When a man like Biden who has plagiarized the work of others for decades, and lied about the level of his scholarship, also has a hair transplant meant to fool others into thinking he has not lost his hair, when he has, and misses the fact that no one is really taken in by the ruse, he tells us as much as we’ll ever need to know about him.

    http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2012/08/16/inside-mind-joe-biden/?intcmp=related

    • nc

      Jay, and when you continue to cite foxnews as your source it tells us all we need to know about you and your “opinions”!! Adult independents are watching and most if not all of them know of the biased and unbiased sources of informantion! What is the world wide opinion of foxnews as a biased news source??????????????????// Remember the adults!!!

      • Nadzieja Batki

        Since you mention the Fox channel so often, that must be your news channel that you are told to watch.

      • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing Jay

        Hmm, a sermon on credibility from a troll who has zero credibility on this site. Now that’s, rich!

      • chuckb

        nc, when you present evidence that fox news is biased, please show it, or if they lie, please prove where and when, you can’t do either. adult independents?????? what the hell is that? if they vote for barry, how can you classify them as adults. more like ignorant sheepies.

  • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing Jay

    Democrat Party machines have been stuffing ballot boxes for at least sixteen decades.

    http://historyhalf.com/history-of-voter-fraud/

  • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing Jay

    Origins of American Vote Fraud

    http://mises.org/daily/554

  • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing Jay

    ACORN falls again: The worst case of voter-registration fraud in Washington state history

    http://michellemalkin.com/2007/07/26/acorn-falls-again-the-worst-case-of-voter-registration-fraud-in-washington-state-history/

  • old hillbilly

    Acorn is like magnetic maggots – don’t see them unilt a day after a road-kill & they disappear just as quick… still always ready to pounce on something dead

    • Nadzieja Batki

      The Leftist/Democrats are also afraid of the new black panthers that is why so little condemnation is heard. They will use them against the population that does not side with the Leftists/Democrats and then in turn they will turn on the new black panthers when they are considered tired and weak.
      Human predators are more deadly,and viscious, and cunning, and brutal because they not only have the behaviour characteristics of the animal counterparts but that they are capable of imagining new ways to be viscious and brutal. Animals only deal in instinct to survive.

  • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing Jay
    • Kate8

      Jay – So, is the New BP party so different from the old one?

      Back in the early ’70s, a friend of ours was murdered by the Black Panthers as he was unloading groceries from his car in front of his San Francisco apartment. His pregnant wife watched helplessly from a window above.

      The BPs were out to kill for purely racial reasons. Our friend was killed because he was white. He was a very fine man and held no racism whatsoever.

      From the rhetoric, it seems obvious that nothing has changed, except that now they have the government’s blessing. And, despite what edduh says, whites ARE being killed by blacks, who are likely at least motivated by the BPs.

      And it is the Left which continues to fan these flames by forever yelling “racism!” over everything.

  • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing Jay

    All America needs to see this! Obama’s drone war on women and children!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vk86cs6j_pQ&feature=related

  • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing Jay

    Obama’s Wars: Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Yemen, Columbia, Iran, Waziristan… Who’s Next?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KmgtDJphWm4

  • Kate8

    Jay – As if that’s not enough… I just learned that the main reason Obama gave amnesty to children of illegals was so he can enlist them in his private army…his civilian youth brigades. Sound familiar?

    Here we have kids who have no real knowledge of our Constitution, no real love of America, and no real jobs for them, either. Hungry people will jump at any chance to make money, and they are indebted to Obama, who has defied his own nation in their favor.

    Everything this guy does is devious. It seems that he wasn’t having as easy a time enlisting Americans for this army as he thought…maybe a few namby-pamby liberal sycophants and his favorite, the ethnic gangs. This way, he’s got a whole slew of new recruits, even as young as 12.

    So now what. When all h*ll breaks loose, our people will have to look at shooting children? We know that they do this in other countries, because it causes the militia or soldier to hesitate for a split second…and that’s a second too long.

    Geeze I hope our military comes for this guy before it’s too late.

    • Karolyn

      I just heard an interview with one of these kids the other day. Her mother had been deported after being stopped for a traffic violation. She hasn’t seen her in years. Her father is here legally, and her two sisters are citizens. As a child, she did not even know she wasn’t here legally. She is a now a 23 year old college student who took a year off from school because of finances and stated that she and those like her love this country and want to be contributing citizens. They want to give back to the country that has given them so much. There are many like her.

      • Palin16

        Aw, the tears are running down my cheeks. The bleeding heart liberals point to 1 in a 100 illegal aliens that would make good USA citizens. Then they quietly ignore the facts of them taking jobs from Americans, overburdening our emergency rooms (while paying nothing) and filling up our prisons with violent criminals.
        Now if my parents were to have robbed a bank and bought a million dollar house for me to live in when I was 5, surely you wouldn’t want to throw me out of it because of the sins of my parents.

      • Karolyn

        The point is you would rather throw the baby out with the bathwater.

      • nc

        KAROLYN, when you find stories of good people who are not citizens who want to stay here and contribute and can’t and then find the white people who speak English and are “citizens” who get out of their vehicles and gundown police officers because they claim to be “sovereign citizens” who are not subject to our laws! That sounds a lot like the Libertarian message! They arrested 7 of them today! Does that mean there may be 7 vacant seats at the Libertarian convention??

      • Kate8

        Exactly, Palin. Actually, if they can’t find a real sob story case, they’ll pay someone to pretend to be one. Happens all the time, and they’ve been caught doing it.

        At any rate, it really frosts me that they attempt to play on people’s sympathies to justify their flagrant violation of Law and the will of the people. The truth is, every child in America must face the consequences of their paren’t choices. I don’t hear any crying about American children whose lives are damaged because of what happened to their parents, or what choices their parents made. How about people who have to leave their children to fate because they are sent to prison for some trumped up crime. Or even the kids who are now homeless because Obama et al destroyed their source of income. Who is pleading a case for these kids?

        Sure, it’s not the kid’s fault that their parents stole across our border, and are, hence, criminals. But that is the responsibility of the parents, yet we are told that it is WE taxpayers who must bear the responsibility. Absolving the parents of consequences to their children has only resulted in increasing numbers of people breaching our borders to have their kids here, knowing that their kids will be handed everything on a siver platter. My own kids, your kids, can’t get the benefits afforded the kids of illegals which are paid for by US.

        Until people have to be held accountable for their own actions, they will continue to make such choices. Who wouldn’t. It’s like telling the guy down the street that, since we made bad decisions and our kids are disadvantaged, he has to take up the slack for us. Right.

        If people are here illegally, they must go back home. There are lots of other people there, and no matter how difficult their lives, they do not have the right to break the laws of another country in order to become another burden on an already overburdened system. I’ll bet there are millions of Americans who live as bad or worse than these illegals have it back home.

        The real truth is that the aim is to overload our system and escalate the road to collapse. That is the real purpose of the entire entitlement system. Well, soon we’ll all be living in poverty, and perhaps life in Mexico will look pretty good.

      • Karolyn

        There is plenty of attention paid to the plight of all children in this country. It’s not just the undocumented. There are more programs than ever to help the children.

      • eddie47d

        Exactly NC but do you really think they will bring up the Sovereign Nation and discuss it or would that be too much embarrassment for them to admit. Either that or maybe they are in cahoots with that bunch of cop killers. Same group that took out those Memphis officers yet they will eagerly bring up the Black Panthers. Dang hypocrites!!.

      • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing Jay

        Votes! The chief concern of the Democratic party. No mystery that there are fewer registered Democrats than Republicans – although independents, unaffiliated with either party, are now showing a slight edge. So the Democrats figure they need votes, and they are looking to illegal aliens to reward them at the ballot box this coming November. Seems rather obvious!

      • Kate8

        And now we have nc claiming that sovereigns are gun-crazed psychopaths.

        It looks like Obama’s criminalizing of Constitutionalists is working. This is truly chilling… This is exactly how Hitler turned public opinion against the Jews to justify genocide.

        I suppose nc will be standing by cheering when conservatives begin to disappear.

        This is history repeating, folks. And the only people who can see it are those of us old enough to remember who the NAZIs really were…and are.

        I guess if any of us are going to lay our lives on the line in an attempt to save a slew of stupid Leftist b*tts, it’s going to be we older folks. These idiots are falling for the same old commie tricks, and still can’t see that anything is wrong. They are selling the country down the river, and are too dumb to know that they have targets on their heads, too.

        If it weren’t for the fact that we all have children with very dubious futures, I’d just sit back and watch the Lefties hang themselves along with the mess they’ve created. I’d gladly sacrifice myself for them to have to face the consequences of being short-sited and stupid.

        When veterans are visited and arrested by the FBI for speaking out against the current administration, this should send a terrible chill down the spines of everyone. It is extremely tragic and devastating that there are those who find this okay.

        This is what we heard about happening in NAZI Germany and Soviet Russia. We thought, “Thank God we live in America”. And now, America is no more.

      • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing Jay

        The Left has always been a haven for misfits, ne’er-do-wells, and people with myriad psychological disorders. Dopers and boozers like Barry Soetoro found a place where they didn’t feel out of step with the rest of the world – it was the rest of the world that was out of step with them. They could don the mantle of Revolutionary and immediately become 10 feet tall, bullet-proof, and invisible. Looking at the makeup of the current administration, especially in its upper misleadership, and the policies and legislation they have produced makes it eminently clear that many of these people have never gotten beyond this level.

        For reasons that are not at all clear, and therefore make me very suspicious, far too many conservatives adamantly refuse to admit that Barak Hussein Obama is, by his own admissions and open associations, a New Left Marxist, albeit a knee-jerk one. His destruction of the economy, his looting to the Treasury and redistribution of trillions to his fascist backers in the international banking community, his nationalizing of healthcare, the financial markets, and the auto industry, his ratcheting up of all sorts of regulations, especially environmental ones, aimed at shutting down our ability to produce energy, his total lack of effort to bring down unemployment are not the result of incompetence. Au contraire. From a New Left point of view, this has been the intention all along: do the greatest harm to the capitalist state in the shortest period of time, and they’ve done a damn fine job of it.

        In addition, they have taken great strides toward undermining the Constitution, and laying the statutory groundwork for transferring virtually unlimited power to the executive branch, making Congress an irrelevant footnote to history. They have ignored the courts, lowest to highest, selectively enforced the laws that are supposed to be applied equally, refused to prosecute blatant violations when it didn’t suit their political agenda, and have been allowed to get away with every bit of it. Even Holder’s Contempt of Congress is being allowed to get brushed aside as a “distraction.”

        And lest we forget, B. Hussein promised his butch, rough-trade buddy Putin that “after my election” he will be in a position to have Leon Panetta over at the Department of Surrender, unilaterally destroy our nuclear arsenal.

        Half of the Cabinet and their second and third rank appointees, and the “president” and all of his staff and “czars” should be under indictment, but not one is. There has never – repeat, never – been such rampant, unbridled, unabashed corruption in the history of American government. As the Ministry of Propaganda, aka, the “mainstream” media, likes to say, “unprecedented, historic!” And damn near as guilty are the RINOs who daily turn into the see-no-evil, hear-no-evil, speak-no-evil monkeys, allowing our country to be dismantled and turned into an impoverished, Third World has-been dictatorship, right before our very, apparently wool-covered eyes.

        We, the People, by all real indicators, should win the November elections in an unprecedented, historic landslide of epic proportions. When we do, we have a long, hard road ahead of us, repealing and repairing the damage done by the losers, the misfits, the psychos who have been controlling the Democrat party and Washington for the past 50 years. But it must be done, for we are teetering on a dangerous brink, and if we go over, there’s no way back.

        In the meantime, remember this truth and apply it: The price of Liberty is eternal
        vigilance.

        http://www.freedom.org/

      • Kate8

        Jay – You may be a bit optimistic about the election, even if Romney is allowed to claim victory. He still takes orders from the same guys as Obama. I doubt much will change.
        And I doubt he’ll do much to overturn what Obama put in place.

        If Obama gets his way, I doubt the election will happen. The buzz in the underground is pretty grim as far as Obama’s gameplan. And there is beginning to be more and more dissent among the military ranks. He’s even p*ssed of the Secret Service, making them look like a bunch of partying idiots.

        Will the military act? I sure hope so. In any case, the window of opportunity is closing fast. They can’t affort any slip-ups, either. The disinfo is crazy… no one knows who to trust. But if they do succeed, I doubt Romney will be in next in line. There are others who actually have respect for the Constitution.

        I keep visualizing you-know-who being cuffed and hauled off to GITMO.

  • http://YAHOO cca

    Karolyn, you are a bleeding heart liberal full of stupidity. All of these programs would not be needed if we did not have the problems caused by illegals. The Democrat party’s new
    motto is “never let a bad piece of legislation go to waste without creating a new way to benefit from it”. They create problems and then use those problems to spend tax payers money to supposedly address those problems. How can you support such a moronic viewpoint?

    • Karolyn

      Boy, you sure have a good way of getting people to listen to what you have to say. Just call them “stupid.” Typcal.

      • nc

        Karolyn, you must excuse cca! He only has a right eye!

      • Smilee

        Only a right eye and it is questionable if he can even see out of it and he appears blind to me.

      • sam1966

        Talking about the disability you have of not being able to comprehend the truth again smilee? FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님과 국가 대 한!

        You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot.

  • Palin16

    In many cases, the illegals have more rights than us citizens have. There is a house on my block housing anywhere from 10-15 illegals with up to 10 junk cars with bondo all over it parked on the landscape and every available spot on the street, with do it yourself mechanics who acquire these junk cars and do auto repair in the driveway and then sell them to newly arrived illegals. I complained about it to the constable’s office with numerous photographic evidence but they just look the other way. The few times that they’ve been made to move these vehicles, retaliation follows the next day…broken glass in my driveway, roses knocked off the bushes in front, or worse. I pay property taxes for this crap.

  • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing Jay

    Democrats, (from latin Demon crafts) is a political party known for recanting what they say, and then claiming the opposing party was wrong about something and not themselves. They also spend money like a bunch of irresponsible teenage girls with brand new credit cards. Also known as Emocrats, they are a form of alien life controlled by evil sent to Earth on a mission to kill babies and destroy America… and so far
    they have been succeeding. Think of anything or everything that seems f*cked up or out of place in America and there is a good chance a democrat had something to do with it.

    The Democrat Party symbol is the jackass and its motto is “Look what we could do, if only we had more of your money.”

    It is also a well documented, but little known fact that the Democrats are the militant wing
    of the Black Panther Party.

    In 1994, American voters after 40, 50 or 60 years of having a few Democrats as the majority of the house, senate or the oval office in one time or another, decided to have the first majority Republican federal government since the Great Depression (1932).

    Democrats usually went for really messed-up places such as Los Angeles before the L.A. Riots that year exposed what the liberal white elites are known to do: talk about racial equality (false), wealth redistribution (wrong) and pardoning all felon crimes (yea).

    And remember, when you removed GOD from everything, it’s going down to hell.

    Brainwashed the American people to elect Obama.

    Beliefs and Evil Plots/Goals

    Bill Clinton is a blimp and also is a sperm baby of Hugh Hefner.

    Be annoying.

    Spend money and give it to useless crap.

    Never watch Fox News.

    Hollywood is your friend.

    We love Terrorists …we will never hurt you (and get you off any charges in court).

    We like men who grow boobs, or women who make out with each other (i.e. we’re incredibly GAY) or women with two men (Pro-choice).

    Global warming is caused by Republicans, specifically the ones, emitting body heat as they melt trees, babies and minorities, and definitely Not from Michael Moore and Oprah’s methane laden farts.

    Remember, EVERYTHING is George Bush’s fault, not only because we’re a pain in the rear but because he’s not gay.

    To be considered truly equal, every workplace must have at least one Asian, a Latino, a midget, a wheelchair bound retard, gay idiot, lesbian, suicidal SOB, an eskimo, a tibetan monk and a terrorist. White people are optional and usually frowned upon.

    Even though the first Democrats were southern, started the civil war, were die-hard Confederates, enacted the Jim Crow laws, Founded the KKK, FDR was a secret admirer of Nazism, and only 64% of Democrats supported the civil rights act as opposed to 82% of Republicans, REPUBLICANS ARE EVIL RACISTS!!!!!

    Women deserve equal wages, affordable accessories, and an understanding of what it feels like to be kicked in the balls.

    Senator Barack Obama is a democrat. Another funny thing about this man is his name sounds like “black” like his skin color. As well as his last name sounds like “Osama.” His middle name has no ryhming sound with other bad words, it is just plainly Hussein

    Men deserve less wages than women and an understanding of what it feels like to be raped AND have boobs.

    It isn’t fair that people are sent to jail who throw doubles 3 times in a row.

    Bestiality is a loving alternative lifestyle, like necrophilia, pedophilia(this stance has caused the democrats trouble in elections due to the fact it benefits the opponents of democrats, such as Roman Catholic priests and Mark Foley(“R”-FL) and the Jews, and urolagnia.

    All things destructive (i.e. the Jews or Armenians) should be destroyed.

    Eliminating the distinction between nouns and adjectives by combining the two parts of speech into a new one, nounjectives. The word “Democrat” in “Democrat Party” is a nounjective.- Which is ironically how republicans refer to “democrats”. What’s funny about this is that this is just a name given by Rep.Josef McCarthy when he chaired the HUAC. So basically, those democrat swindling lizard francoslaministicfascits Ross is Jewish rats are stealing from the copyrights(by copyright I mean he was too fat and lazy to turn them in to the patent office) of upstanding, manly, and 100% not gay man-manly republicans.

    To Destroy America and turn it into USSR 2.004b (the ultimate goal) or under Obama, into an Islamofascist Kaliphate.

    Support Abortion and fight against the death penalty, because dead fetuses taste better than dead criminals (and are more likely to be homosexual).

    If your aunt had testicles, she would be your uncle.

    Remember to always, ALWAYS reproduce asexually and then raise the poor spawn with a retard of your same sex.

    Take your guns away and give them to terrorists and illegal immigrants.

    Welcome terrorists into your home only if they plan on raping you in your sleep.

    Emo people have the right to die, but if they truly deserved to die we would have aborted them or killed them by electric chair sentence by an extremely partial (and gay) judge who cannot tell the difference between dog crap and Paris Hilton (not that most people can, but more than can distinguish crap and Bill Clinton).

    Take your money and give it to the crack addicts poor on the streets.

    Make you wait in lines two miles long to get a cavity pulled out with a rusty nut cracker.

    Madison, Wisconsin – beware of liberals.

    The Democrat Party is unique in the world, in that it’s the only party to simultaneously be controlled by Jews and constantly hate on Jews.

    Democrats love to play racial politics throughout history. They displaced the Cherokees to have rednecks, then went for the Irish Catholics, followed by appointing communist Poles and Mafioso Italians, but replaced them with a lot of Jews, deserted them for bringing in black people, and finally hired a few Hispanic illegal aliens.

    • nc

      Jay, your ranting are the screechings of a sore A$$ in second place!! See “Bulls,Bears,Donkeys. and Elephants” for Democrats at work for America!!

      • sam1966

        Why always the same book? If you want to know how this country is to be, just read the book, “The Christian Life and Character of the Civil Institutions of the United States.” FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

        You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot.

    • Kate8

      Jay – I remember reading some time ago that “Hussein” is a name of Islamic royalty, and only those who are of this royal blood may bear the name “Hussein”.

      What we have in our WH is a Trojan Horse.

      • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing Jay

        Hey Kate, do you remember last year, i provided a u-tube link to the “The Royal Red Dragon Bloodlines” http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OnYpMcaHCFI? It use to be approximately a 15-part presentation. It was in the last part, the 15th i believe, wherein the obama’s bloodline was traced to the Saudi-bloodlines. Funny thing, that part can no longer be found on u-tube. In fact, i can only find parts 1 through 9. Strange, isn’t it? Did you by any chance happen to download all parts to your hard? If so, would you mind sharing?

      • Kate8

        Jay – Yes, I did, but unfortunately that computer died. I lost everything.

        There have been many things which have disappeared of the internet. I saved things in my computer, only to find them gone later. One great video and article about the Obama body-count disappeared from my favorites AND from my “sent” box, at least twice.

        Anything with real substance against this group of goons is wiped clean. Someone will put it back up, and then it’s gone in no time.

      • nc

        Kate 8, in an earlier post you said I would probably stand and cheer if conservatives disappeared! Not really! They have been so inconsequential in our growth to the number one nation in the world that I only become concerned when they try to drag their knuckles into positions of leadership!

  • Kate8

    Jay – Facts about our government EVERYONE should know. It’s not what you think.

    A very important site for freedom watchers:

    http://www.showothers.com/Home_Page.php

    • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing Jay

      Thank you for the link, Kate8. I have bookmarked it and will have a look at it.

  • Palin16

    Anyone see the cover of the newest Newsweek magazine? “Hit the Road, Barack”
    http://www.thedailybeast.com/newsweek.html

  • CHRISTOPHER ALLEN HORTON

    EVERY TIME I SEE A PHOTOGRAPH OF, “Crazy Joe,” HE HAS ONE EYE OPEN AND ONE EYE CLOSED – IT MAKES HIM LOOK “SLICK.”

  • sam1966

    Once again smilee and her ilk have been defeated and the samurai stands tall on the battle field.

    O thus be it ever
    when free men shall stand
    between their loved homes
    and the war’s desolation
    BLESSED with victory and peace
    may the HEAVEN rescued land
    Praise the POWER that has made
    and preserved us a nation
    Then conquer we must
    if our cause it is just
    And this be our motto
    “IN GOD IS OUR TRUST”
    The the Star Spangled Banner
    in triumph shall wave
    O’er the land of the free
    and the home of the brave.

    FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!

    You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot. This leaves smilee out.

    • Smilee

      More childish babble from sammie. Those whom stand tall on the battlefield beating their chest in arrogance and stupidly are an easy target and usually get shot. Beware my childish friend.

      • sam1966

        Wrong, wrong, wrong smilee. The one that stands tall on the battlefield is usually after the battle has been won and the enemy is running away scattered before you. Since you have never served, no nads, you have no comprehension of what a soldier would go through. Just be quiet as you know nothing except your own ignorance and arrogance, so you need to be careful childish one. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님과 국가 대 한!

        You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot. You seek after the truth, but you will never find it. I posted that earlier on this thread. It seems you haven’t learned about what the Bible says about you and your ilk. But alas! You do not posses the capability of understanding truth.

  • sam1966

    Sheesh! Since everyone else has moved on smilee, why don’t you do the same? Or do you like berating someone after they have left and also wish to continue your vendetta against me? FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나니과 국가 대 한!

    You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot.

    • Smilee

      Sammie, I have no vendetta against you what so ever, I do feel very sorry for you are such a confused and mixed up person living in a fantasy world. I will pray for your enlightenment, but vendetta never and you should have been able to see that if you were not such a confused person.

      • sam1966

        Wrong, wrong, wrong smilee. My mind has already been awakened, much more important than being enlightened. I also see clearly and I have no regrets about me telling the truth about the current COOTUS and about our Christian founding. I will admit that you also know what you are doing. You are here to spread lies, hate, innuendo, rhetoric, and to cause confusion. If you are right about anything you post, people, not matter which side of the fence you are on, would agree with you. No one has agreed with you whatsoever on any thread we both have posted. But alas! It seems that the truth is far from you. No matter how much you study and seek the truth, your demse lib mind will never find it. Seek help and get back to church, God, and Jesus before you start feeling some real heat. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!

        You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot. This counts you out every time.

      • Smilee

        I guess my truths are getting to you as your only responses now are throw a bunch of untrue and cruel statements. Is that how you believe a Christian should act?????????????

      • sam1966

        You truth? Ha, ha, ha, ha! Thank you for the laugh. This coming from someone who never posts sources, facts, and has no credibility on this board? Like I’ve said before, refer to my previous posting. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!

        You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot. This leaves you out.

  • sam1966

    We were founded and still are a Christian nation smilee and you are just perturbed that you can’t prove otherwise. I hope you seek help for that displaced anger, doubt, feelings of guilt, depression, arrigance, aggression, and just plain ignorant attitude before you go terminal and can’t be cured. But then again, you can’t fix stupid. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!

    You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot. This leaves you out. BTW, these are all symptoms of stheism.

    • Smilee

      I guess my truths are getting to you as your only responses now are throw a bunch of untrue and cruel states. Is that how you believe a Christian should act?????????????

      • sam1966

        Refer to my previous posting. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!

        You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot. I guess you are running out of things to say as you have just repeated yourself.

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