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The Cookie Of Communism

September 25, 2012 by  

The Cookie Of Communism

While President Barack Obama and his corporate media minions have tried desperately to dodge the heat they deserve for the Pandora’s box of ills currently dominating the headlines, one of Obama’s lowlights has surfaced; and it literally defines Obama then and Obama now.

Speaking to an audience at Loyola University Chicago in 1998, then-State Senator Obama stated:

I think the trick is figuring out how do we structure government systems that pool resources and hence facilitate some [wealth] redistribution — because I actually believe in some redistribution, at least at a certain level to make sure that everybody’s got a shot.

Although the video doesn’t show it, methinks the erstwhile community organizer must have had a copy of Das Kapital open in his lap, because nothing else could even approach explaining a philosophy so diametrically opposed to everything that makes the American system so much better than the late and unlamented efforts to impose Karl Marx’s ideology on the planet. And though 15 years have passed since young Legislator Obama showed his cards to everyone at the table, older President Obama is still playing the same hand.

Think of it this way: Let’s say someone bakes cookies. I then eat the lion’s share of the cookies, though others hoped for a bite. According to Obama circa-1998 through 2012, the only way to give everyone a cookie is to take some from me — by force, if necessary (and if the cookies are chocolate chip, then force will absolutely be required). It never occurs to liberals like Obama that they could simply bake more cookies. In an ever-diversifying global economy, there are always more cookies. Just because I gorge myself doesn’t mean everyone else has to go hungry. They do have to get in the kitchen, however.

Of course, that would require actual work, which would in turn take time away from standing around in Zuccotti Park demanding I hand over the snickerdoodles. People who work and buy their own dessert quickly learn that once they’ve earned a cookie, they’ll be damned if they’ll hand it over to the deadbeats who join Obama in accusing them of hoarding Mrs. Fields® treats.

The Democrats attempted to dismiss Obama’s remarks as somehow out of date or unimportant by deploying the corporate media’s self-proclaimed “fact checkers,” which is the political equivalent of assigning Marion Barry to lead an anti-drug task force. The same guys who thought vaguely sourced tales of Mitt Romney’s five-decades-old amateur hairstyling were worth a mention have decided that Obama’s statement in support of what amounts to Marxism isn’t relevant because he said it way back in the 1990s.

Herr Marx said essentially the same things way back in the 1890s. His ideas led to the deaths of uncountable millions, oppression on a global scale, two world wars and nearly a century of proxy conflicts. Should Obama succeed in his clearly stated plan to impose the same “redistribution” on the rest of us, no one outside his select group of hypocrites will get any cookies at all.

Ben Crystal

Ben Crystal

is a 1993 graduate of Davidson College and has burned the better part of the last two decades getting over the damage done by modern-day higher education. He now lives in Savannah, Ga., where he has hosted an award-winning radio talk show and been featured as a political analyst for television. Currently a principal at Saltymoss Productions—a media company specializing in concept television and campaign production, speechwriting and media strategy—Ben has written numerous articles on the subjects of municipal authoritarianism, the economic fallacy of sin taxes and analyses of congressional abuses of power.

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  • DaveH

    How the “Peoples” Republics administer their “equality”:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nomenklatura

    • Warrior

      Not sure how this explains where biden fits in? Oh well, I guess even the politburo needs a jest.

      • vanguard7

        Biden is nothing more than fodder to distract from Obama’s true agenda. The more gaffes he makes the more the media focus on him and not on what Obama’s doing. It’s called slight of hand or getting you to look at what’s in one hand while the other hand is doing the evil.

      • box-bb-car

        Biden (and Pelosi) were the poison pills. Who would want Biden or Pelosi in charge of anything beyond the cleanup crew in an elephant park?

      • Sirian

        Biden is nothing more than their “court jester”, provocateur of “mis-spoken” lines. In reality, their convenient idiot of distraction. That’s what makes him so valuable, nothing more.

      • eddie47d

        Yes Biden has to carrying an extra pair of shoes with him in case he loses one in his mouth but not much different than Dan Quayle. The Democrats used him as a scapegoat for humor and Republicans use Biden for the same reason.

      • Old Observer

        Or a court jester——

      • niccko

        Biden is into ‘CHAINS’. Not sure if that applies in his personal life too!

      • Patriot

        Wasn’t Biden supposed to oversee the every penny of the Stimulus Bill? Just think about how idiotic that statement was, in addition, by looking at Romney’s tax return in just 1 year he alone, contributed almost $4 million to charity. All his money was made the old fashion way he “EARNED IT”! In contract all the money Obama & O’Biden made was from the public dole or crony capitalism and combined over the last 5 years, they contribuited about $3000 to charity! These guys are so caring and passionate about the needy!

      • Public Citizen

        Biden = cookie crumbs

    • http://personaliberty.com Travis

      I equate Obama getting re-elected to a natural disaster. It will cost an unbelievable amount of money to repair and a lot of people will suffer. Will we be able to avoid it or not???

  • Liberty Lover

    Anyone who knows about Obama’s immersion in communist thinking throughout his formative years (and the MSM surely know this) can be excused for thinking, “Hey, nothing new here” in regard to that 1998 clip. He said the same thing to Joe the plumber.

  • cawmun cents

    The neo-marxists have determined that they must emulate capitalists until such time as they can be eliminated.They act religious,and as if they espose new ideology,but it is just a front for the masses.It is the same old tired trick that they used in Russia,with a new and improved label pasted on it.They wish to entice the dull and malcontent to accepting their faux-(I am for the little guy/gal)ruse,until they wrest the power from the ruling elite of today,and replace them with Maoist miscreants of tomorrow.
    The unbridled desire for something new and different,keeps the left flowing with delusions of grandeur,so natuarally they get the young and disturbed to follow along.
    But first they must eliminate the obstacles which keep this from happening….the old guard capitalists.Instead of kicking them out of your country you politely,with political correctness,invited them to stay and even instruct your youth in the academies of higher education.So now you are caught with your American pants around your ankles,looking for a mediocre replacement for the marxist in charge,without realizing the true danger you have put yourself in.You let the marxists drum God out of every corner of your life,except the one your reserve for Him on one hour of Sunday,and chased the almighty dollar for so long that you forgot who you were.Now the vultures and jackals are waitng for your hasty demise,as you attempt to act as if you are trying to fix what terrible wounds you have inflicted upon yourselves.You expect that if you are at least looking like you are trying to fix the problem,it will eventually go away,but you insist on hammering away at the nails in your own coffins instead.And the rest of the world reminds you of how nice folks like you finish last as they pat you on the back and say,”Its our time now!”
    God has turned away from you as you did to Him when you pursued your mad course straight toward oblivion.But you will put a band-aid on the mortal wound you gave yourself and act as if everything os peachy-keen.
    Good luck with that….citizens of America…..writing your own ticket straight into hell.
    Cheers!
    -CC,

    • http://none Carter

      You are dangerous to them,cawmun….Once they are figured out,they have no psedo-intellectual response,so they attack….

      • eddie47d

        Oh really Carter? James 2:4-5. “You have become judges of evil thoughts. Hasn’t God chosen the poor in the world to be rich in faith and to be heirs of the kingdom that he has promised to those who love him? But you have dishonored the poor and isn’t it the rich who oppress you? Verse 13-17: “Judgement will be given without mercy to anyone who has shown no mercy”. If you say you have faith without works can faith save you? If a brother or sister is naked and lacks daily food ..yet you do not supply their bodily needs,what is the good of that? So faith without works is dead.” America has come to that point where our Christian faith is not doing what the Bible commands.

      • DaveH

        It just shows that the lumping of all the rich and all the poor into singular categories is a common theme among humans throughout history. There are compassionate rich people, just as there are compassionate poor people. There are greedy rich people, just as there are greedy poor people. We can find good and bad in any group of people we examine carefully. I grew up in a poor neighborhood, and then later in life lived in an upper middle class neighborhood, and my observations were that the latter were more polite and considerate by far than the former. Could that be why those “poor” have a harder time finding jobs?
        Some poor got where they are by having genuine handicaps which prevent them from being successful. But those misfortunate people would have no problem getting help from voluntary donors if Big Government wasn’t robbing us all blind, leaving little for us to be charitable with.
        It seems odd to me how many people buy into the faux compassion exhibited by Government Leaders who jet all over the world to party at the rest of our expense, or to wreck mayhem at the rest of our expense. Most of them aren’t even close to compassionate. They show that everyday to anybody caring to read between their lines and observe their actions. Those phony Leaders (most of them) are just telling people what they want to hear so they can get re-elected.
        The most effective way, and the least expensive way, to sort the wheat from the chaff is to have Free Markets, without Government meddling, where people trade their goods and services voluntarily. The money taken from us by Government (40% of the GDP) would mostly be far more effective in the hands of the victims of their theft, than in the wasteful, self-serving hands of Big Government.
        Those people who would like to expand their brainpower should read this, and learn why Free Markets would deliver those things to us that Government Leaders can only falsely promise us:
        http://library.mises.org/books/Kel%20Kelly/The%20Case%20for%20Legalizing%20Capitalism.pdf

        • Liberty Lover

          Excellent post, DaveH. Statists love to be generous with other people’s money….not so much with their own.

      • Steve E

        There are plenty of Christian charities that work just great. It’s not up to government to do that.

      • eddie47d

        Where are they Steve E? That sounds so quaint but in reality not so much anymore.

      • Patriot1776

        eddie, you want to quote the Bible about taking care of the poor, what are you doing for them? The Bible talks about the individual’s responsibility to help the poor, not government. The Bible also says “He who would not work, neither shall he eat.”

      • cawmun cents

        It was a euphemism eddie47d.
        I am not condemning them to hell in of itself,rather I am saying that that is where they are headed with no propensity to stop and turn back toward God.
        I was accusing no one in particular,but trying to point out the aptitude of the populace at large.The act of being tolerant of the things which will eventually destroy you,is not found in the Bible,no matter how you interpret it.
        It just isnt there in biblical context.
        So please do not throw your scriptural eisegesis at me,and expect me to flinch.
        I have a clear conscious about those things which I state.
        And since you do not know me,(and in what capacity I serve God)if I were you I would not throw the word of God as if it were a hammer to hit others with.
        If you intend to educate others then,do so by explaining the context of how you wish to use scripture to the benefit of their knowledge,instead of wielding it like a weapon against them.
        Otherwise you risk making the word of God seem as iof it is faulty in some way.
        A mistake I might add,which many Christians routinely make in their effort to make themselves feel superior to others.

        “To pay attention to what someone does not do,is often more important than noting what they do.”-Eugen Herrigel

        Cheers!
        -CC.

      • michaeljbeglinjr

        eddie47d: You seem to be under the impression that America was a theocracy. Nothing could be further from the truth. America is closer to a theocracy now than ever before. Without religion, the republicans would have a lot more supporters. Religion has no logical place in politics. Simple morality should suffice. Voting for people because of their superstitious beliefs is just simple-minded. “Jesus was Caesar” by Francesco Carotta can tell you all of the factual information that you need to know regarding christianity and islam.They are both man-made, spread by the sword that islam still carries, and are based on lies and poor translation skills. Belief in Ra is as valid as Jesus coming back from the dead. If more people quit wanting a dead man or yet another imam to save them from Life, maybe humanity will be able to progress. Religion is a superstitious waste of time.

      • eddie47d

        I was mainly referring to Carters childish attack CC and the Bible is quoted on several occassions right here and that will be my response for tonight.

    • sue conservative

      Bravo to you on every point. I have only one nail to add to the coffin. It started long ago in Hollywood with the erosion of our moral fiber with the movie products filled with “what the public wanted to see”. The garbage we were forced to look at slowly desensitizing us to immorality, violence, nudity, filthy language, perversion of all kinds etc. This is not what we wanted to see it is what they wanted to produce because they were the perverted liberals desirous of changing the culture to their sick way of being. Gone were the lovely films WORTH watching that we really want to see that portray decency that the majority of us live in our daily lives. I’m just sayin’

      • Patriot1776

        But is Hollywood soley to blame? If the market weren’t there, if people had said that their content was unacceptable, they would have changed. Just as with the politicians of either party, they would change their behavior if they had been held accountable. If they continue to be rewarded with being re-elected regardless of how they vote against the American people, if they are rewarded with 30 and 40 year reigns inspite of their restricting our freedoms while increasing their net worth, they will continue to reward themselves with lavish pay and perks while the citizens that they are supposed to represent struggle to make ends meet. It is our responsibility in this great republic of ours to participate in our government, just as we should participate in the quality of what is output from Hollywood by the dollars we contribute.

      • eddie47d

        I will agree with what Sue has stated in how the movie industry has desensitized us and too often glorify immoral behavior for the sake of ratings. God will not be pleased with some of the trash that comes out of Hollywood either. I stopped watching Criminal Minds last year because they made it seem like there was a serial killer living on every block. Absolutely no bearing in fact and is only making the paranoid more so. Conservatives don’t get a free pass either in how they make it feel like every other person out there is a sexual predator ready to snatch your child from behind every bush. Fear sells and I’m sick to death of all the false and phony grandstanding and the assaults on our sub-consciences.

      • Nobody’s Fool

        Amen, sistah!!

      • Old Observer

        We can’t blame it all on Hollywood, though it most certainly has had a role in our deterioration.
        The moral decay of the individual in many instances, and the loss of concern for the family unit as God intended it–
        The ease with which people give up on a marriage–(I well know some have good reason—cheating and abusiveness) but just deciding one wants a prettier wife or richer husband)–or the act of just living together sans marriage—
        The bottom line is that we all need to strengthen our faith in God and live as He intended-in honesty. But, today, the 10 commandments, and God—are to be discarded, according to the democrats, so how can we expect things to get better?
        And now that our president is abandoning Israel–we are in for it. God said that He will bless whoever blesses Israel, but whoever curses Israel will be cursed.
        Jesus said we were to love one another. If we did, there would be no filth, theft, or wars–but, human nature being what it is——-selfishness and greed win out.

      • Mamamia

        Not quite Sue. Hollywood puts out movies that the people want to see. No one is forcing Americans to spend billions of dollars on entertainment every year. It’s the blood, guts, violence and sin that sell. Put a pretty picture on the screen and you loose money. Don’t use Hollywood and liberals as a scapegoat to the downfall of christians in this society. The sic and ugly is what sells today.

    • http://yahoo helen coombs

      you are right but what can we do ? just dont vote for him.i know iam not voteing for him.he is nothing but a sneek and lier.

    • 45caliber

      cc:

      I’m not so sure it is the libs wanting something new and different all the time; it is their view of what utopia should be. They want a utopia where (of course) they are in charge. Everyone gets whatever they want without having to earn it and all work will be done by those who want to do the job. And they are certain that everyone will have a job they want to do and will do it even if others don’t work at all. And they are certain that there will be people who will want to fill every job needed. (And any time one of them starts this speel, I always ask if they are the one who is going to keep the sewers clean.)

      Since they consider what we now have as wrong, they welcome any change simply because they feel that sooner or later they will arrive at their utopia, particularly if the change is wrong and no workable – even if they are the ones who instituted that change. After all, even if they put in something they KNOW won’t work, they can use it to encourage people to try their utopia, which they are certain will work with them in charge. After all, if there is no change then we keep what we have. And that, to them, is the greatest wrong – particularly since they aren’t in charge.

  • eddie47d

    Thanks for bringing that up about the Elites “chasing the almighty dollar for so long that you forgot who you were”. That fits Corporate America and Wall Street to a T and how they rode their white horses into fame and fortune while the real America was drowning. Those vultures and jackals sure did Capitalism mighty proud now didn’t they? You really think they will fix the terrible wounds they inflicted upon this nation and especially the Middle Class who suffered the most harm?. God warns us numerous times in the Bible about the vanity of the riches and how they can be a scourge. I truly doubt if He will be pleased anytime soon.

    • DaveH

      Eddie says — “Those vultures and jackals sure did Capitalism mighty proud now didn’t they?”.
      The problem is that we haven’t had anything close to “Capitalism” in this country for over 100 years. You would know that, Eddie, if you’d read the book that I link to often on this board, including in my earlier comment to you. But then it’s much more fun for you to hang around this board pestering us with your inane comments, isn’t it?

      • Ted

        daveH- we have never had pure laissez-faire in this country. The Post office was created in the Constitution. So we have had a mixed economy for the whole life of the US. The fact that small businesses small business provide the most jobs in this country indicates that the government does not control the economy. And there are many models for government, not just socialism.

        For instance, the government controls the whole military market. If your company makes missiles, or tanks, how many customer does it have? Not much more than 1. And if there is one customer, he calls the shots.

        It would have been interesting to hear your reactions during World War II where food, gasoline, tires and a whole host of other products were rationed. Where there were no no new cars produced, where the top income tax bracket was at 91%. But the first computer was built under government contract, the first microchip was built under a NASA contract, the first internet was built under Pentagon contract. We can ship produce from California to Maine without the truck having to stop for a single traffic light due to the interstate highway system, built under government contract.

        For good or bad, the government has been involved in the economy for the whole history of the United States. Your arguments are simplistic and wrong.

      • Nadzieja Batki

        Ted, the post office may have been in the Constitution but it was not meant to become the form it is today, a failure in debt.
        Don’t equate small government with the bloat it has become today.

      • Kate8

        eddie – Do you include George Soros among your evil capitalists?

        You might want to check out this short little bio of him. It may surprise you. Talk about evil. Here, he is referred to as a “Dracula (because he sucks the lifeblood of the people), and a planetary parasite.

        Sounds right on to me.

        He also controls Obama and all of the NGO’s you dems love so much. Look a little deeper, and see what turns up.

        Remember, the elite control BOTH SIDES.

        http://politicalvelcraft.org/2012/09/25/one-evil-human-being-convicted-felon-inside-trader-orchestrator-george-soros/

      • eddie47d

        Soros could also be one of those in the Capitalist mix if that pleases you. Too many Conservative cowards run from condemning those on Wall Street and even wink …wink over the problems they have created.

    • Nobody’s Fool

      Eddie47, so you think communists can do a better job?? Ever been to Russia, Eddie?? You quote the Bible a lot, but then you support the pro-abortion (baby murder), pro-homosexual, pro-muslim, anti-Christian, anti-American, anti-Constitution platform of a party that voted against God three times and then booed when his name was reinserted by force. You are one mixed up dude.

      • Nadzieja Batki

        The only reason eddie47d quotes from the Bible is that he hopes that the Christians will let their guard down believing that he may be one as well albeit a very weak one.

      • http://alsina846.wordpress.com millie

        could eddie be the first christian communist? who knows? maybe he is the first? after all he does speaks from both sides of his mouth.

    • eddie47d

      I have never said I support communism so “there you go again”. Your regurgitated lies about what I think or what was said at the Democrat convention makes you the troll not I. I would never attack a homosexual or a Muslim but obviously you would so you will have to live with your lack of conscience. I’m hardly anti-Christian and very pro-Jesus but am willing to expose the hypocrisies of those Christians who slander groups of people for pleasure. Yes that would include you and I WILL say you are the mixed up un-American who can’t accept the multitude of differences we have in our great country!

      • momo

        Good Lord, God made eddie47d the religious police.

      • eddie47d

        What do you call the numerous conservatives who quote the Bible in attempting to prove their point. Chirp Chirp from Millie and Nadzieja! I must have hit a nerve!

  • http://www.gov-truth.com Ed

    If you believe Bush had ANYTHING to do with our current worldwide financial crisis, you owe it to yourself to go to http://www.gov-truth.com and download “Siren’s Song – America’s Betrayal”. Spread the truth. Pass this site along to your friends.

  • boyscout

    I like the cookie/baking more analogy very much, good job Ben. My only concern is with the sustainability of ingredient supply.

  • history matters

    Marx’s ideas caused both world wars? So Hitler was a Marxist? And the Societ Union, which came into being after the first world war had started and then dropped out of that conflict was causal? Interesting.

    • Bob

      Do uou not know what NAZI stands for? National Socialist Party.!! You
      uninformed idiot.

      • http://yahoo helen coombs

        yes i do and we are going to go back to hilter days .it looks like it is going that way.i wont be here to see it as iam 80 years old.

      • Dale left coast

        Marxism . . . what is the economic philosophy behind marxism and fascism? Why Socialism . . . read Marx and Engels . . . . Mussolini did and was a huge fan except he thought the Bolsheviks were brutal . . . so his invention Fascism was Communism Light ! ! !

      • 45caliber

        Actually, Marx didn’t like Communism. He said it was a bastardized version of what he thought was right, and it put an oligarchy in power rather than the people.

    • eddie47d

      Do you know what NEO-CON stands for Bob? A new kind of Conservative who cons folks? Now maybe you can borrow one of Biden’s shoes.

      • Nadzieja Batki

        Or are Neo-Cons really Democrats who either matured or the ideological pendulum shifted so it is cool now for a Democrat to be a Neo-Con because the Old Democrat Party is now Leftist.

      • eddie47d

        Maybe neo-cons have drifted so far to the right they are now fascists. We can all jumble up the dance schedule Nadzieja!

      • DaveH
  • tom

    maybe you have a point but you have left out he is a muslum,his agenda is to change our constition to sahara law.thats even worse to think if you don,t pay up,off comes your head.i won,t bow down to his belief ,nor will i take the mark .,,,,

    • eddie47d

      That is typical Republican talking points Tom. There is absolutely no “agenda” to turn America into a nation run by Sharia law and Obama is not a Muslim. So why do you think we should “bow down” to your polly parrot nonsense? Obama grew up as a Muslim child but has not practiced that faith for decades. Relevant facts could have won the Republicans this coming election yet so many of you resort to hollowing screeches of the extreme right. You continue to come across as another form of evil trying to replace what you perceive as evil. Wagner below apparently agrees with my assessment,Thank You.

      • amERICan

        So you admit he was raised as a Muslim Child, but he has adopted the name Barack Hussein Obama, which was his fathers name, his real name was Barry Soetoros, but he adopted a Muslim name. Once indoctrinated as a child in Indonesia where by law all school children are taught the ways of Islam, it has a lasting effect does it not? Just like Christian faiths do. Children are very often influenced for life by these models for life. Do you disagree? One can’t have two such faiths, without being deprogrammed, which Obama has not been, he is a risk to both sides of the same coin. Or can’t you see that? HE IS A NATIONAL SOCIALIST PERIOD. He can’t remain divided without inner conflicts, which would tend to make him unstable, It’s rather simple psychology.

      • Nobody’s Fool

        Eddie, Eddie, you’ve got to quit drinking that Koolaid!!! It’s got your brain totally screwed up. I am constantly amazed at how facts just bounce off you liberal blockheads.

      • alpha-lemming

        Maybe…… maybe not…….

        Is a Muslim, Nation of Islam advocate any worse than a Black Liberation Theologan communist ?????

      • eddie47d

        How can I be drinking the kool aid Nobody’s Fool if you are the one with the tight gripe on the jug?

      • LeBrit

        Goodbye…you don’t get it, still ! You need to look at BHO, Junior’s, background in more detail. Trevor Louder from New Zealand will help you. The President’s father was a Muslim Socialist in Kenya. He was friendly for a number of years, in his youth, with Frank Marshall Davis ! Sharia Law and it’s practices can be seen to be filling the Spiritual void of non-Christian Socialism in Europe. Look across “The Pond,” ’47′…this is not the time for American insularity. Of course, the same could happen here. We have 2,000 Mosques and a Muslim population of around 7,000,000, already. Get with it ’47′… and preaching the “Politics of Envy” or “Class Warfare” is not helpful. The latter is a favorite political ploy with European Socialists. What a mess it has produced, too!

      • eddie47d

        You are correct Eric that children can be influenced at any early age but that has been known since the beginning of time. Republicans brought up the name Hussein quite often during the 2008 election trying to suede people in believing Obama was “related” to Saddam. I see that rabbit trick is now being played again.

      • eddie47d

        That LeBrit is because you can’t tolerate anyone but yourself and you are scared of change and that is oh so typical Conservative. Since you want to invoke “outside”help allow me to bring up what Wayne Swan said. He is Australia’s Deputy Prime Minister who said Republicans” have become cranks and crazies and that their stubbornness is ruining the economy”. He also said you extremists are “damaging the economy”. Any “mess” we may be in could be blamed on several factors Including those Conservatives.

      • jorind

        Obama is a devout Marxist first, with a strong Muslim ideology which was foisted upon him all during his formative childhood.

      • DaveH

        Eddie says — “There is absolutely no “agenda” to turn America into a nation run by Sharia law and Obama is not a Muslim”.
        How do you know that, Eddie? Are you a mind reader who has been close enough to read Obama’s? More likely it’s just your usual worthless conjecture.

      • eddie47d

        Name caller Dave H is trying to apply his Alinsky tactic again. Hasn’t worked before Dave and it won’t work this time. You’ll still a liar.

    • http://yahoo helen coombs

      iam with you i dont want to go to hell .i have been saved and i will not take the mark which itis comeing soon.every one who belive in GODask GODto save you and he will .just pray and ask.

      • Nobody’s Fool

        Helen, you are amazing!! God bless you!!

  • Wagner

    This would almost be entertaining until the realization that this paranoid drivel is written seriously. You people need help.

    • Bev

      Does it frighten you that there may be more than one “take” on what we’re witnessing in our country. Obama is a Marxist through and through/ He will lie to your face and promise you the sun the moon and the stars. but in the end it will only be about him and his minions. Please I beg you to wake up and smell the coffee.

    • Bob

      Wagner, did your mother have any children that lived?

      • eddie47d

        We have become a nation of proxy wars and Romney has vowed to continue and increase the Bush/Obama wars. Romney has promised everything to everyone over the years to get elected. He loves to say he worked with the majority Democrats with his grand ideas and now takes the opposite positions on those same issues to get the Republicans to buy into his vote. He is either a chameleon or a liar on a grand scale. Is that the moon and the stars or a very slick politician?

    • amERICan

      Wagner, if your a democrat, your not going to change anything by telling people that they need help. Look in a mirror the reflection of you ought to tell you something is wrong with your party alignment. Go find somewhere else to spout off with your commie rot, that is only true if your a democrat. In America we can speak freely and repeatedly, In commie land you can say anything you want to, but only once, then your off to the Gulag. See the difference?

      • eddie47d

        There was a lot of rot in the article but I assume that Eric forgot to take his blinders off to notice. Wagner was only pointing that out so apparently Eric doesn’t believe in a fair debate or isn’t beholden to any sense of decency either. Now go check out that cracked mirror in your bathroom. (your last sentence did have some truth to it though).

      • DaveH

        Which part was “rot”, Eddie you useless Troll?

      • eddie47d

        Good God here comes another cracked mirror! Dave trying to be the intelligence queen.

  • braindeadus

    Has anyone read the “Communist Manifesto” if so you can see that Obama is following it . After reading this manifesto you can see what great plans he has for America, a socialist dominated America. This is why a vote for Obama is a vote for socialism.

  • Manny Alonso

    Good article Mr. Crustal, obviously I agree with your points particularly with regard to the danger of this ideology as evidenced by the history of global communist tyranny and mass murder of the past hundred years. Permit me to point out one small error in that you attributed that statement to Herr Marx as having been made in the 1890s. It had to have been made earlier as Karl Marx died in 1883. Just a small but important correction. Very good article, however.

  • CBUETT

    Paranoid Wagner? its truly amazing that you cannot take a serious look at your democrat party and see that their leaders are in fact Socialists. People taking resources from one group of people and giving it to another group of people; while concentrating all the power in the hands of the state is pretty much Socialism. Why Wagner, do you people believe that even though Socialism, throughout history; has never worked anywhere in the world, do you think it will work here? Because socialists are jealous people who covet what other people have, its a mental disorder pure and simple.

    • mark

      No, socialism is not a mental disorder. Thinking that people who disagree with you on a particular topic have a mental disorder is a mental disorder. It is also unAmerican i.e. contrary to free speech and free thought the foundation of our great society.

      Socialism is simply a way of organizing society and an economy that is very different from capitalism. That is what it is. It has also never existed in the United States and does not exist in the United States today which has trillions of dollars of individually-owned private property and a largely private enterprise, capitalist economy.

      • Liberty Lover

        CBUETT has it right, and nowhere did he attempt to remove your freedom to disagree with him by expressing your unfortunate views. Perhaps it is extreme to suggest, in today’s disordered world, that a system founded on envy and theft is pathologic psychologically, but it’s true.

      • Chester

        LibertyLover, you are describing the Republican backed Corporate America to a T. Envious of anyone who has an idea they can’t patent and steal, greedy as sin and ready to take every opportunity to snatch the bread out of your mouth that presents itself. If you don’t already have enough money to buy into their company, they are not about to advance you anything on your potential. In case you haven’t noticed, if you are working for a company and actually invent something,whether on your time or theirs, that invention and patent belong to the company you are working for, NOT you.

        • Liberty Lover

          You’re ready to indict all of America’s free-enterprise system because you evidently had an unfortunate experience?

      • Steve E

        Socialism is a mental disorder. Socialist ideology is based on the ideas of people with inferior intelligence. It is the thinking of selfish, weak minded subhuman behavior. It is evil. Subhumans do not know what evil is, therefore, they do not know what socialism actually is.

      • eddie47d

        I’ll disagree with both of you because socialism does exist in America and has for at least 80 years. Unemployment Insurance,Social Security,Medicare and a variety of other programs all include some socialist practices. I would say we are a better nation because of it. It is not a panacea for everything and can be counter productive at times but it is also not the sinister boogieman that the right tries to portray. Every nation on earth has alittle socialism including Singapore who is about as capitalistic as you can get. Now Liberty Lover can describe it as envy and theft but more rightfully it can also be a form of fairness and equality. To say that the wealthy have the right to take as they please regardless if it is theft from someone else is rather naive thinking also. A fully socialist country is unworkable as much as giving capitalist full reign to manipulate the markets. Both have been proven to be disastrous.

      • eddie47d

        That is rubbish Steve E and maybe you are the one who is mentally twisted. I would say the Elites are the selfish and weak minded. They (capitalists) use others to capture their riches and then claim superiority. They take but don’t always give back or replace what they took. They may be smart in manipulating others or whole countries but wouldn’t that make them the selfish sub humans? Taking from someone elses labor, polluting and expecting someone else to clean up after them (taxpayers),using unfair financing to reel people in and then bringing down the hammer or being free to peddle unnecessary pharmaceutical on the public and charging a fortune to do so. There are plenty of snake oil salesmen preaching on on both sides but I for one won’t buy your nastiness or from any neocon who is out to stiff me either.

      • Nobody’s Fool

        Mark, If you and others of your ilk re-elect oBlamer in November, you can kiss your “freedom of speech” goodbye. It is YOUR party, Mark, that wants to legislate what people can say and do. It was one of YOUR democRAT minions who declared recently that it was racist to mention peanut butter and jelly sandwiches. It was YOUR party that voted three times against God and then booed when his name was reinserted into the platform. You might ought to give some thought to getting out of that party while the gettin’s good. Oh, I’m sorry, I accidentally gave you credit for being able to think.

      • Vigilant

        Chester says, ” In case you haven’t noticed, if you are working for a company and actually invent something, whether on your time or theirs, that invention and patent belong to the company you are working for, NOT you.”

        Absolutely true, when it’s on company time. It happens to be one of the conditions of employment. If you don’t buy into the mandate when you sign on the dotted line, then you are letting your greed overcome your legal responsibility. If you disagree, then get another job or remain unemployed.

        What you do on your own time is something else. Any efforts with which you do not use company resources (including intellectual property) are fair game.

      • Nadzieja Batki

        Socialism is not just words on some textbook page. It is a predatory activity that while the workers and producers are still alive they have their flesh and lifeblood drained out of them.
        Would this be too much explanation for your puny brain to comprehend?
        You are not here to learn, so why exactly are you on this PLD site?
        I am surprised that O and his handlers have not shut you up because everytime you O fawners open your mouths you make O look worse than usual.

      • eddie47d

        With some of the comments from Conservatives right here I I doubt if Obama has anything to worry about except more Republican sabotage. At least Nadzieja finally has a sense of humor. LOL

      • Steve E

        eddy, why don’t you stop worrying about what the rich do and do things for yourself. You state that everything the rich do is bad. That is where your mental disorder lies. You are too weak minded to say to yourself that you can do things for yourself. Instead you want some no named rich person to help you, even if he doesn’t want to.

      • eddie47d

        Hey MENTAL magician Steve E I don’t depend on government handouts or what those wealthy have to offer. I depend on myself but am alert to what those wealthy have done FOR this nation and how they have worked AGAINST this nations best interest. You think you will ever comprehend that?

      • DaveH

        mark says — “No, socialism is not a mental disorder”.
        I beg to differ, mark. It certainly exhibits an almost total lack of morality, which is accepted (though not practiced) by the vast majority of people. You can’t have Socialism without Force, and Force is immoral and disrespectful to the victims of your Force. Normal people don’t advocate being able to Force others to live their way, so I’d say yes that Socialism is a mental disorder.
        mark says — “It has also never existed in the United States and does not exist in the United States today”.
        With Freedom (Capitalism is a subset of Freedom) on one side of the scale and Enslavement (Socialism is Enslavement and Force) on the other side, we are much closer to Socialism in this country than we are to Capitalism.
        With Government spending 40% of our GDP, how could you possibly think we are anywhere near Capitalism, mark? Government also controls over 30% of our country’s land.

      • DaveH

        Chester says — “you are describing the Republican backed Corporate America to a T”.
        I suggest you read this, Chester, so you can shed the blinders. Both major Political Parties are infested with Crony Capitalists:
        http://www.amazon.com/The-Big-Ripoff-Business-Government/dp/0471789070

      • Steve E

        I comprehend eddy, You are jealous of the rich. You rage about them and you seem to think that the poor are all innocent.

      • eddie47d

        This site rages about the poor and don’t think the wealthy are guilty of anything. Now run along Steve!!

    • jorind

      Amen.

  • Bruce Christie

    IN HIS SPEECH A FEW YEARS BACK OBAMA SAID HE BELIEVES IN REDISTRIBUTION. HE SAID THE TRICK IS FINDING THE WAY TO MAKE THE GOVERNMENT WORK TO MAKE IT HAPPEN. WHAT MORE DOES ANYONE NEED TO HEAR?

    • Shelia

      that is a video that Robme pulled out the closet, to take the heat off of him, because he always put his foot in his mouth.

      • jorind

        Sheila, it would appear that your shoe is in your eye as opposed to your mouth, though that is debatable.

  • mark

    God, what a shocking revelation! Except of course for the fact that Republican Presidents Harding, Hoover, Eisenhower, Nixon, Ford, Reagan, and both Bushes also believed in income redistribution. During all their presidencies (and every presidency since 1914), a graduated income tax existed in the United States in which those who make more money paid a higher income tax rate than those who make less. Next you guys will find a shocking tape in which Obama as a young man says he supports Social Security and Medicare. More absolute proof of his treason…. Please

    • Nobody’s Fool

      Mark, do you and Eddie drink your daily Koolaid together?? You two are so open minded that all your brains have fallen out. Why don’t you go over to a commie site where what you say will be hailed and hallelujah-ed all over the place. You need to leave this site, your slobbering love affair over oBlamer is messing up my monitor.

      • eddie47d

        No Fool it is the person behind the monitor that is messed up! LOL

      • Shelia

        just because they don’t agree with you, you can’t make them leave, remember free speech.

    • Nadzieja Batki

      Shelia, you are a guest in someone else’s home, the PLD site. You came here and have spent your time bashing the host, his goodies, and the other guests that you have taken a dislike to.
      There is Freedom of Speach on this site but you will find that there is no such thing as freedom to be heard or listened to.

    • DaveH

      Since when do two wrongs (or three or four or five….) make a right, mark?
      Where do you suggest we start changing things if we don’t start with Obama?

  • CBUETT

    No Mark believing in a form of government (Communism) that throughout history when it has been put in place, is directly responsible for the killing of hundreds of millions of people in multiple countries; is responsible for the theft of liberty and the free practice of religion; is i hope a mental disorder. If its not, then your just the dumbest S.O.B. on the planet for believing in it.

    • Vigilant

      Methinks the true mental disorder of the left is the fantasy world in which they live. It is a sociopathic delusion under which they labor, one which denies reality and fails to face head on the lessons of history.

      It is no coincidence that the leftist system of public so-called “education” is skewed so heavily in favor of diluting, distorting, and revising history a la “Big Brother” tactics to sway the tender minds of its charges into believing that Capitalism is evil and socialism is the great panacea for all our ills.

      This system does everything in its power to impoverish the education of youths by failing to offer history and/or civics courses. It has all become, revealingly, “social” studies. It bumps great scientists, inventors, captains of industry and civic leaders from our children’s history books in favor of multiculturalist fluff.

      It calls the great Founders of our nation “dead, white, European Males” as if the enlightenment of their leadership is somehow tarnished by their heritage. And it seeks to both deny and destroy the Christian values upon which we were founded.

      Above all, it seeks to obfuscate and divert attention away from the single question, “what economic system has historically been the most successful in raising the prosperity of the highest number of its adherents?” The leftists hate that question, because it forces the normal intelligence to answer with one word, i.e. “Capitalism.”

    • mark

      Once again you are switching terms. I spoke about socialism – not communism, CBUETT – and never by the way said I approved of either because I do not. You are now speaking about the most perverted and violent forms of Communism and equating that with all socialist ideas and forms of government which is ridiculous. Socialist democratic parties have come to power in various nations: Switzerland, Denmark, Holland, Norway, Finland, and briefly in Chile, Costa Rica, and Venezuela . All of them were elected. None of them carried out mass genocide or anything like it as the extremist communist regimes of Stalin, Mao, and Pol Pot did. Calling everyone who supports substantial aspects of democratic socialism, Stalin or Mao is like calling everyone who supports conservative ideas, Adolf Hitler. It is a ludicrous and baseless charge – as well as a slur. But this kind of behavior appears to be the common practice on this site.

      To Eddie, I would say that just because a society has some aspects of socialism – like Social Security and unemployment insurance – does not make it fundamentally socialist. The U.S. economy is still overwhelmingly a capitalist economy.

  • rtaylortitle

    For crying out loud people…get your terms right. We’re suffering from Fascism…not communism nor socialism. The corporate state rules not a bunch of communist oligarchs! But what do we expect, the public SCREWL system has failed in so many areas other than just civics and forms of government.

    • Vigilant

      And it has failed the masses in educating them to the true nature of fascism. It has erroneously (and purposely so) placed fascism on the far right of the paradigm. It is NOT.

      Facism, socialism and communism are birds of a feather, all of which employ the heavy hand of central government in managing the economy and subjugating their populace. They are squarely amongst the evil collectivist models of government that crush individual rights and reduce incentives.

      Going from here to the right on the scale, you find liberalism, then conservatism, then libertarianism, then anarchy. Anarchy (complete freedom of “man in nature”) can exist for only very short periods of time before it descends into chaos, followed by its antithesis, dictatorship.

      Fascism in the Third Reich was a function of the National Socialist Workers Party (NAZI). Communism was NOT its philosophical adversary, but a scapegoat for Hitler to remove the competition for power and power alone. Thoroughly ashamed of the horrific nature of fascism, the left sought to paint it as a far right philosophy. Unfortunately, they have become largely successful in doing so.

      • Liberty Lover

        Absolutely right, Vigilant…..tragically so.

      • Nadzieja Batki

        Thanks, Vigilant.

  • CBUETT

    Well we were talking about the Democrat partys ruling elite rtaylortitle, not the countries. But thank you for educating all of us braindead monkeys!

    • eddie47d

      Cbuett: Nothing like equating all governments as (communism) or saying socialism is communism. Then again I keep telling Dave H. there isn’t much difference between capitalism and crony capitalism. There is wickedness within all forms of governance and as you say there are “brain dead monkeys who are hard to educate”. No one say we have to be “dumb” about any form of government but take the beam out of your own eye.

      • alpha-lemming

        Socialism is just the seventh inning stretch enroute to full blown communism……..

  • Frank Mlinar

    “Think of it this way: Let’s say someone bakes cookies. I then eat the lion’s share of the cookies, though others hoped for a bite.” What are you doing eating all of someone else’s cookies. Sounds like a Republican action…redistributing UP.

    • Nadzieja Batki

      Why don’t those someones bake their own cookies and eat their own cookies.

    • Vigilant

      Frank, You would do well to read “The Little Red Hen,” a great example of the sloth of socialism. I read it when I was a kid, but I imagine such a story, anathema to the socialist way of thinking, has been removed from the schools.

      • Vigilant

        For those who were never exposed to the story, Wikipedia sums it up well, as follows:

        “In the tale, The Little Red Hen finds a grain of wheat, and asks for help from the other farmyard animals to plant it. However, no animal will volunteer to help her.

        At each further stage (harvest, threshing, milling the wheat into flour, and baking the flour into bread), the hen again asks for help from the other animals, but again she gets no assistance.

        Finally, the hen has completed her task, and asks who will help her eat the bread. This time, all the previous non-participants eagerly volunteer. However, she declines their help, stating that no one aided her in the preparation work, and eats it with her chicks, leaving none for anyone else.

        The moral of this story is that those who show no willingness to contribute to an end product do not deserve to enjoy the end product: “if any man will not work, neither let him eat.”

  • CBUETT

    You know what anyone eating anyone elses cookies aint cool.

  • CBUETT

    Bake your own damn cookies!

  • Strighttothepoint!!!!!

    I don’t like cookies ,you can have them all!!!I like pies .and if nobody likes it….”Let them eat cake!!!!”

  • Strighttothepoint!!!!!

    CBUETT Anyone that ate my pies aren’t alive !!!!!

  • Strighttothepoint!!!!!

    Next “TOPIC”to comment on please!!!!!! Only this time have one thats worth while!!!!!!!!

  • MarathonMan

    Thomas Jefferson on wealth redistribution:
    “The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not”

    For those of you that support Obama, know this; The man is a genuine socialist and is hell bent on his agenda of Fundamentally Changing America.
    (The USSR: A socialist state for 80 years and it, like all the others that tried it, FAILED.)

    For those of you who that despise the wealthy: Do away with the wealthy and you forfeit your opportunity to succeed, and will have lost liberty.

    • Vigilant

      “The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people’s money.” – Margaret Thatcher

      • Jeremy Leochner

        But if your also giving your money, its still socialism. Socialism is not based on giving others money. Its based on everyone giving and everyone taking. And it allows for free enterprise to still take place.

      • Vigilant

        Jeremy, Jeremy, that plainly distorted word play, transparently, is just that.

        As for “allowing” free enterprise to take place, socialism is plainly a damper on incentive, and the greater the degree of socialism, the greater the loss of incentive. It’s a never-ending, downward spiral that sucks all vitality out of an economy through the creation of dependencies, accompanied by the requirement for ever-increasing force and coercion to achieve its ends.

        No need to appeal to past history, it’s playing out in Europe as we speak.

        • Liberty Lover

          Why does socialism require ever increasing coercion to achieve its ends? Because the market tends toward homeostasis in an equilibrium distribution of income based on talent, work ethic, and an element of luck. Try to force a change in one area and the market will use every vector of freedom still available to restore the natural equilibrium. Boost the highest tax rate and you’ll soon find pretax incomes at the highest levels increasing faster than other incomes. Socialists are simply too stupid to grasp the concept of unintended consequences.

      • Jeremy Leochner

        It is not word play. In a socialist system you are still paying your own money. It is not just you pay I won’t, its we all pay.

        I was probably asking for it when I used the word allow. My point is communism destroys free enterprise. Socialism tempers it with government regulation. Regulation and Repression are not the same thing.

    • mark

      Your Jefferson quote is a false one. It is one of these made-up quotes that spread about the web constantly and are accepted by conservatives despite the fact that they have no authoritative citation and cannot be found in any of Jefferson’s actual written work, letters, journals, and recorded speeches. For an entire book full of false Jefferson quotes and assertions, see the recently pulled from publication, The Jefferson Lies by David Barton.

      • Vigilant

        Care to challenge Thatcher’s quote (at your peril)?

      • MarathonMan

        Mark :
        You say The Jefferson quote above is a false quote …. only in your mind can that be possible.

        Here is one of several Jefferson quote websites.
        http://www.myfreedompost.com
        you may have to enter in : Jefferson Quotes

        The quote in question appears 8th from the top of the list and it is not as you proclaim, a false quote.

        Mark: You are now exposed as the Obama propagandist that you are. You have repeatedly demonstrated a level of ignorance and bias that is a common trait among Obama supporters.

        I highly recommend that everyone that has an interest, including Mark, go to the website and read Jeffersons quotes. There is a remarkable contrast between our Founding Fathers and Obama.

        So, Mark you have an option, read the Jefferson quotes or keep on drinking that Kool Aide.

        • http://boblivingstonpl.wordpress.com Bob Livingston

          Dear MarathonMan,

          In this case, mark is correct. That quote has not been found in any of Jefferson’s writings: http://www.monticello.org/site/jefferson/democracy-will-cease-to-exist-quotation

          However, he did write this: “To take from one, because it is thought that his own industry and that of his fathers has acquired too much, in order to spare to others, who, or whose fathers have not exercised equal industry and skill, is to violate arbitrarily the first principle of association, -€˜the guarantee to every one of a free exercise of his industry, & the fruits acquired by it.”

          Best wishes,
          Bob

  • Mixture V ranks

    Obama’s thoughts come out invariably in his commentaries and his actions. Sometimes his commentaries are designed to mislead you into thinking he’s on your side. However, his actions, which may be entirely contrary to his words, are really what he thinks; his words are merely a cover at the time.

    Everything he wrote or had written for him in his two books is true and reflect his real views. Obama is at least 50% Arabian, though he has deliberately allowed all those in the USA who are of African descent at some point in their history to think otherwise. He has written in effect that he will side with Islam against America, if things get ugly. Is he not doing this now? His pretense at Christianity with the Rev. Jeremiah Wright was just that, a pretense. If memory serves me right here, his marriage to Michelle at the time was in a real crisis and Rev. Wright did provide some solid counsel which brought them back together. For his own convenience, Obama stayed on there and has allowed the world to think him Christian. Islam would call that a form of Taqqiya, lying when it is necessary in order to advance Islamic goals. Is Obama’s lying not a matter now of accepted behavior even with the media? Joe Wilson had it right in 2010, when he called out in the US Congress, when Obama was giving his State of the Union speech, that the President was a liar. And congressmen were quick to respond ‘my, oh, my, oh, my! But Wilson was correct and took all kinds of flack for his outburst.

    MarathonMan is quite right in his quote of Thomas Jefferson. Obama is cultivating the class of the unwilling in order to further his agenda of bringing America down. To ensure this he is busy behind the scenes seeing to it that those long residing in cemeteries are registered voters who actually deliver their votes. This happened a few years ago in Orange County in California. Where this is not possible, why not have armed goon squads surrounding polling places to intimidate voters?

    Liberals represent a mob and mobs are notorious for not thinking and for accepting all kinds of contradictions as Truth. In modern times the French Revolution illustrates this perfectly and is in fact really the modern source for liberalism. It is strictly envy and little else. As MarathonMan has indicated, envy the wealthy, do nothing yourself except to dump the wealthy. Then, your chance to succeed along with your liberty will be gone forever.

  • CBUETT

    Strighttothepoint, Oreos and chocolate chips are delicious. I dont believe you, I bet Stalin and Mao even liked cookies.

    • Nadzieja Batki

      Stalin and Mao did like cookies as long as they were from America (the cookies were wrapped in dollar bills).

  • niccko

    Great anology Ben……Now we can say that the first black presedente has given us the opportunity to use the phrase, “AS THE COOKIE CRUMBLES” so does our nation!

  • Viet Nam Vet 67-68

    We should be calling Abomination what he truely is and that is a Marxist/Communist Muslim. His background and parents yell I am a Communist. His friends and associates are a hodge podge of Radical Socialists, Communists and Radical Muslim’s and Black Panthers and one Terrorist called Bill Ayres his closest Friend and number one Advisor in the White House. His 55 Czars anointed by King Abomination are all Radicals his Reverend and Mentor of 20 years is a Racist Black (heart) Rev. Wright who hates White People and America, also Farakan, and his two Radical Supreme Court Justices one Radical Socialist and one Communist. Why have the Black people embraced a Half White Man Marxist Athiest when most blacks are Christians??? Why have you sold your Soul’s to the Great Satan the Anti Christ Abomination ????? Viet Nam Vet 67-68

  • sunshine

    This is why we need to force Obama to release all his records! This will allow us to see what his real beliefs are about America and his philosophy of government. I think this is more important then how much taxes Romney paid. Romeny’s taxes aren’t going to effect the nation itself, but Obama’s Marxist views will!

    • mark

      What about some of Romney’s crazed grammar school and high school essays on the glory of Mormonism and polygamy? Shouldn’t all of this also be released? Apparently when in kindergarden, a 5-year-old Bill Clinton one drew a swastika on a piece of paper and then wrote: “Ha, ha, ha!” Surely this should have disqualified him from ever being president. I agree, the government should keep precise records on every single word our children say or write since birth, even their subversive doodling (which psychiatrists say can point to all sorts of socialist and sexual proclivities), and then supply them to gov’t election boards if they ever run for office. These childhood, high school, and college musings are much more important than keeping from the public their efforts to avoid paying their fair share of taxes. Or for instance Romney’s successful efforts to avoid the draft during the Vietnam War. These kinds of facts are totally irrelevant to the voter’s decision-making.

      • niccko

        Hey…what about obama’s draft dodging or ducking the military…oh wait, I forgot..he’s from a foreign land!

  • Jam Everyday

    The olde story concerning Communism, was that the Communist Government would produce “Jam” for every one to spread freely upon their ‘Nationally Baked Bread’. In the local shop windows of the State Communist Paradise, appeared signs saying “That there was ‘No Jam’ yesterday, nor today ! – but maybe there would be jam tomorrow !” Unfortunately the same story was applied to the State Bread Ration – there was never any bread upon which to spread the mystical plenitude of mythological jam !
    The only things that Obama spreads freely to everyone else is the blame for his stupidity and follies .

    • mark

      I don’t see what any of this has to do with our current American society where the vast majority of people buy their own bread and jam with their own money from privately-run stores that never run out of either. There have never been any bread or jam shortages in American during the Obama adminstration. Mostly because we have an overwhelmingly capitalist economy. So what is your point?

      • Liberty Lover

        But wait, this is only Obama’s first term! The collapse of capitalism and the shortages are not scheduled to take place until his second term! Everything in due time!

      • MarathonMan

        Mark your inexperience and lack of knowledge is impressive.
        If you base everything on what you know about the Obama presidency, you are ill equipped to see the future. History is a teacher if you know it; if not you are bound to repeat it.

  • Jeremy Leochner

    Here is my question to Mr. Crystal. Regarding his cookie analogy. How do we ” simply bake more cookies”? Where do we get revenue to pay for things. The problem is redistribution is inevitable. If we just focused all the money collected from one area only on that area there would be no cohesion. Ask any business owner. At any store or restaurant. An employee and a manager are not just responsible only for one area or one job. The responsibility is”distributed” among employees. And at the same time if money collected from one person is used somewhere else that is redistribution. I will again use Mr. Crystals metaphor. He just says “someone bakes some cookies”. He does not specify who made the cookies. He then talks about eating the lions share of the cookies. He did not bake the lions share of those cookies. For all I know he baked none. And yet he calls it “taking by force if necessary” to make him give up some cookies. With respect Mr. Crystal it came across not as someone who is being tyrannized and who is being robbed. It came across just as someone who sees a big plate of cookies and wants as many as possible. We all made the cookies. And we all need to share them. Its not communism, its kindergarten 101. There was a priest who once said “When I give food to the poor, they call me a saint. When I ask why the poor have no food, they call me
    a communist.” Our country has expenses that need to be paid. Without government and tax dollars to pay for them the most we can hope for is for a corporate entity to step in. However that is not where corporatism does its work. It is for the private sector to provide for profit products. It is for the government to provide for the people services. Medicare, Social Security and Medicaid are not products, they are services. Its not charity its responsibility. Its part of being in a humane society. One of the problems with Soviet Russia and Maoist China was the state and the community were put before the individual. That is a terrible model to follow. However a society in which individuals are placed above the community can lead to division and every man for himself. We as human beings live in relation with one another. We live in communities and as such we have responsibilities to that community, We should not be blinded by our sense of responsibility and forget our individual needs and wants. However we should not let our individual wants blind us to our responsibilities. I loath paying taxes as I believe most Americans do. However I see it as my contribution to my country and my community. I cannot serve in the armed forces as I am too weak and cowardly. So I have to contribute somehow. Taxes are not a form of thievery. Taxes that are misused is thievery. But when taxes are used to pay for care for the elderly or provide necessary weapons and food to our armed forces or when they are used to pay for roads and bridges and public buildings like libraries and museums that we all can use and benefit from I cannot help but see purpose in it. Government is annoying and a hassle. But if lead properly it can do good. Jury duty is something we all have to do. It is incredibly frustrating and at times can be quite damaging to our routines. Yet it is hardly tyranny. Same with the DMV or Taxes or any other form of government involvement in our lives. At times and if unchecked it can become invasive and immoral. But its presence alone is not enough to decry tyranny. Taxes are not stealing. They are paying for our society’s upkeep. They are annoying and at times costly but they are not tyrannical or oppressive. And at the end of the day you can vote out the politician you do not like. When I think of communist nations what comes to mind is not the people ousting a disliked ruler in a fair election.

  • John

    Wow if Marx was still talking in 1890′s after dying in 1883 who was listening ???

    The 1848 publication of Communist Manifesto is not far from time frames of commentaries by Thomas Carlyle in his novel: Past and Present and by Robert Owen in his writings: A New View of Society, 1813. Owen died in 1851 & was apparently ignored by Marx, but got rReform bill passed which outlawed child labor in England, etc. What do you know about the suggestions those men made that might still have value today?

    John

  • Shirley

    I am going to “unsuscribe” to this newsletter, because nothing good is ever said about President Obama.
    Goodbye, Mr. Livingston

    • http://boblivingstonpl.wordpress.com Bob Livingston

      Dear Shirley,

      Don’t fret, it’s not personal. I rarely say anything good about any politician.

      Best wishes,
      Bob

    • Neil Swan

      You are a smart woman Shirley.
      I just stick with it to see how many stupid comments are made.
      There certainly are plenty.

      Neil

  • joe1cr

    eddie47d says:

    September 25, 2012 at 8:26 am

    Oh really Carter? James 2:4-5. “You have become judges of evil thoughts. Hasn’t God chosen the poor in the world to be rich in faith and to be heirs of the kingdom that he has promised to those who love him? But you have dishonored the poor and isn’t it the rich who oppress you? Verse 13-17: “Judgement will be given without mercy to anyone who has shown no mercy”. If you say you have faith without works can faith save you? If a brother or sister is naked and lacks daily food ..yet you do not supply their bodily needs,what is the good of that? So faith without works is dead.” America has come to that point where our Christian faith is not doing what the Bible commands.

    Paul’s instruction to another church regarding those who preferred not to work was to “keep away from every brother who is idle and does not live according to the teaching you received from us.” And he goes on to say, “For even when we were with you, we gave you this rule: ‘If a man will not work, he shall not eat.’” Instead, Paul instructs those who had been idle: “Such people we command and urge in the Lord Jesus Christ to settle down and earn the bread they eat” (2 Thessalonians 3:12).
    Notice that it doesn’t say that those who CAN NOT work should not eat. No, we should have compassion on and help out those people. But if someone can work, yet WILL NOT work, then he’s left to the consequences of his actions (or inactions in this case).

    Here are a couple other verses on this same line of thinking:

    Lazy hands make a man poor, but diligent hands bring wealth. Proverbs 10:4

    How long will you lie there, you sluggard? When will you get up from your sleep? A little sleep, a little slumber, a little folding of the hands to rest — and poverty will come on you like a bandit and scarcity like an armed man. Proverbs 6:9-11

    So get out there and work! Or find a way to survive without eating. ;-)

  • anon

    When will people STOP referring to BHO as the first black presedent??????
    He’s as much WHITE as he is black!!!!!

  • CHRISTOPHER ALLEN HORTON

    EVERYONE KNOWS I DO NOT LIKE THE KENYAN. YESTERDAY, I SAW THE VIDEO, “Dreams From My Father.” IT IS PURE BULLS—!

    IT IS BEST FOR REPUBLICANS TO FOCUS ON THE KENYAN’S SEALED RECORDS. EMPHASIS ON Frank Marshall Davis ONLY MAKES REPUBLICANS LOOK LIKE, “GOSSIP-MONGERS.”

    IF REPUBLICANS WERE NOT SO AFRAID, THEY WOULD PUBLICALLY ATTACK THE Constitutionality OF THE Pennsylvania-Avenue Occpant. IN THIS SCENARIO, Governor Mitt Romney WOULD BE A “SHOE-IN.” BY NOT PUBLICALLY-ATTACKING THE KENYAN ON Constitutional GROUNDS, REPUBLICANS HAVE LOST CREDIBILITY.

    “RE-GROUP” AND GET READY FOR 2016.

  • CBUETT

    Hey Shirley, the president wears nice suits! Hows that.

    • Liberty Lover

      Unfortunately, Shirley, they’re all empty! ;)

  • CBUETT

    Neil Swan I hear you, these liberals make some really dumb comments on this site!

    • Jeremy Leochner

      I think you mean dumb people. Dumb people make dumb comments. Ideology knows no favorites. A dumb conservative is just as dumb as a dumb liberal.

    • eddie47d

      So true Jeremy! What about that comment Romney made when he boarded a plane the other day. “Why don’t they make airplanes where the windows open”, “This could be dangerous if someone needs oxygen” Guess he never paid attention to those stewardesses who explains the procedures. He wants to be President of what? Next he’ll want screen doors for submarines! LOL.

  • Strighttothepoint!!!!!

    CBUETT I lied,You may call me either two-face,simple minded,a dipstick,or a democrat.all of which means the same thing!!!!

  • http://www.facebook.com/marvin.fox.526 Marvin Fox

    I have been making the same argument for a long time. I say it this way. Socialism has its 1%ers. Every society of every kind has a 1% who are its rich people. The 1% of socialists and fellow travels are not paying there fare share as socialists. The socialist !% talk the talk but they don’t walk the walk! No one can give me the name of one of the socialist !%er who has redistributed his wealth to the masses. The socialist !% is as financially protected, and remains so, as the capitalist 1% no matter how hard the socialist works to force the 99% to redistribute its wealth to each other. And, the socialist !% will profit from that. Under socialism, the rich still get richer and the poor get even poorer.
    Marvin Fox

  • SJJolly

    “— because I actually believe in some redistribution, at least at a certain level to make sure that everybody’s got a shot.” In contrast, we have Mr. Crystal’s philosophy, where-in if he controls all the “cookies” he’s going to gorge himself on them, letting everyone else either starve, or get a shot (with a bullet) if they object.

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