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The Best President Money Can Buy

January 23, 2012 by  

The Best President Money Can Buy

As the American housing bubble collapse and financial meltdown accelerated in the fall of 2008, the political ruling class and their bankster masters put together a plan to save themselves from the crisis they created. They decided to scare everyone silly by claiming the banksters were too important to “fail,” and to loot the middle class to refill their coffers.

Never mind that small businesses would fail by the hundreds of thousands. Never mind that millions of homeowners — caught up in euphoria over the artificial inflation of home values — would lose everything they owned, along with their jobs. Never mind that the retirement funds of millions of seniors would evaporate.

The banksters were guaranteed safe haven and political elites were more than willing to take the heat from the proletariat which, by a margin of 3-1, opposed using taxpayer money and/or Federal Reserve funny money to keep the banksters fat and happy. Sure, it cost a few of them their political seats. The rise of the Tea Party — in its original form, before it was assimilated by the Republican Party Borg collective — saw to that. But no worry, K Street had plenty of openings available for its former Congressional lapdogs.

Americans grumbled about the bailouts, stimulus, money printing, etc., and continue to do so to this day. Yet they willingly line up to support the banksters’ Presidential candidates and resign themselves — because the bankster-controlled media tell them it is so — to the fact that their choices are between bankster incumbent candidate Barack Obama and bankster challenger Mitt Romney. They never look behind the curtain.

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The Greatest Government Cover-up Ever

The subprime mortgage market collapsed…financial institutions across the country failed… unemployment skyrocketed… and America was catapulted into the biggest financial crisis of all time.But what really happened? And why is our government distorting—and even deliberately covering up—the seriousness of the current financial situation? What are they trying to hide from you?

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Goldman Sachs rules the world, so it owns the leading candidates from each party — as it did in the past election and the one before that. And much of what Goldman Sachs and the other “too big to fails” are spending can be considered money looted directly from the American middle class — especially now that we know the Fed passed another $16 trillion to money gangsters around the globe that no one knew about at the time.

Meanwhile, Goldman Sachs and other banksters operate above the law. It is now common knowledge that Goldman Sachs recommended to its investors that they invest in stocks related to the housing mortgage mania while at the same time Goldman Sachs and other banksters were shorting the market. Additionally, when State attorneys general tried to step in and prosecute various banksters and their related partners in crime, Federal agents intervened and halted prosecutions and civil court actions, as I noted in my book, Robbed Blind! Who’s Really to Blame for America’s Economic Crisis?

Romney has raised $32.2 million in campaign cash. His major contributors are the banksters Goldman Sachs, Credit Suisse Group, Morgan Stanley, HIG Capital, Barclays, Bank of America, JP Morgan & Chase, USB AG, Wells Fargo, Blackstone Group, Citigroup, sundry Wall Street fat cats and his former firm, Bain & Co.

Obama reports having raised about $86.2 million in campaign cash. And while Goldman Sachs itself hasn’t given Obama as much as it has Romney, the “1 percent” hasn’t been shy about donating its cash to keep Obama on board. Securities and investment firms are No. 2 on Obama’s list of bundlers — right behind trial lawyers. In addition to Goldman Sachs, there’s the bankrupt MF Global (which can’t find investor’s money but did find enough to give Obama more than $900,000), Centerview Partners (who has Goldman Sachs’ Robert Rubin as counselor), UBS Americas and Barclays Capital. And as an aside, Jon Corzine, former Goldman Sachs CEO, bankrupted MF Global while CEO of that company, and he also bankrupted the State of New Jersey while Governor.

When another “financial crisis” comes along, who do you think is going to get the best seat at the bailout table?

You may remember that in 2008, as the campaign between Obama and Senator John McCain was at its zenith, McCain inexplicably suspended his campaigning to return to Washington to save the financial system. It was a gimmick that failed to produce any results except to make McCain look more ridiculous than he already did. It probably sank his campaign, but it pleased his masters.

When you realize his top contributors were Merrill Lynch, JP Morgan & Chase, Citigroup, Morgan Stanley, Goldman Sachs, Wachovia, UBS AG, Credit Suisse Group, Bank of America and Lehman Brothers, you can see what I mean.

That fall, Obama also supported — and as Senator voted for — TARP and bailouts passed by Congress. Care to guess who’s listed among his top contributors from 2008? That’s right: Goldman Sachs, JP Morgan & Chase, Citigroup, UBS AG and Morgan Stanley.

And who financed George W. Bush’s re-election campaign in 2004? If you guessed Morgan Stanley, Merrill Lynch, UBS AG, Goldman Sachs, Lehman Brothers, MBNA Corp., Credit Suisse Group, Citigroup, Bear Stearns, Wachovia and Bank of America, give yourself a prize. And remember: Bush’s Treasury Secretary Hank Paulson, formerly of Goldman Sachs, devised the plan to loot taxpayers to save his buddies’ fortunes.

Bush’s 2004 opponent, Senator John Kerry, was likewise owned by Goldman Sachs, Citigroup, UBS AG, JP Morgan & Chase and Morgan Stanley.

In addition to controlling America’s political system, banksters, particularly Goldman Sachs, control the European political system as well. Former Goldman Sachs executive Mario Monti is now prime minister of Italy and former Goldman Sachs executive Mario Draghi is president of the European Central Bank. Other former Goldman Sachs alums of prominence are new Greek Prime Minister Lucas Pademos, and Petros Christodoulos, chairman of Greek’s Public Debt Management Agency.

And Marc Faber points out in his Dec. 31 Gloom, Boom & Doom Report that two other Goldman Sachs alums  have figured large in the European debt crisis: Otmar Issing, a one-time chief economist for the European Central Bank; and Peter Sutherland, who played a behind-the-scenes role in the Irish bailout.

It seems that the destruction of the middle class follows in the wake of Goldman Sachs’ influence on the political system. And here we have Americans once again seemingly facing a choice of one Goldman Sachs/bankster puppet or another in front-runner and Republican establishment choice Romney or Obama.

If Americans continue to “settle” for the most electable candidate — and that’s most electable according to the propaganda spouted daily by the banksters’ media mouthpieces – they will have to continue settling for having a bankster’s hand in their pockets. That is, until the banksters collapse the system completely and we get a chance to start over.

Whenever I or anyone else points out that there is an elite cabal of banksters that control the world, we are branded conspiracy theorists and kooks. But anyone with half a brain who looks honestly at the world situation can see that the world’s political systems — and most especially that of the United States — are controlled by Goldman Sachs for the benefit of Goldman Sachs.

Working behind the scenes, banksters and a cabal of donors and bundlers write the legislation that benefits the 1 percent to the detriment of the middle class. That’s why — campaign rhetoric aside — policy never changes, regardless of which party is in charge.

The only changes are which group gets the best seat at the table and gets to decide which scraps get thrown to the proles (aka the American middle class). And that’s why both sides support liberty-stealing legislation like the National Defense Authorization Act, the Stop Online Piracy Act, the Protect IP Act, the Dodd-Frank Wall Street Reform and Consumer Protection Act, and the USA Patriot Act.

A vote for either Romney or Obama is a vote for Goldman Sachs and the world’s elites. And a vote for faux conservatives Newt Gingrich or Rick Santorum is a throwaway vote, as neither has a snowball’s chance of winning: Gingrich because of his serious character flaws (which he only temporarily put off answering for after his feigned indignation during Thursday’s debate), and Santorum because he has no national organization and no ability to raise money (he reported only a paltry $1.28 million total in his last filing, which hardly buys lunch for Romney or Obama and their entourages).

There is only one candidate who can break the stranglehold the banksters have on the U.S. political system, and it’s the only candidate who predicted the 2008 crash years ahead of time, the only candidate who is willing to challenge — and end — the Federal Reserve, and the only candidate not owned lock, stock and barrel by the banksters. His name is Ron Paul, and he’s the last chance we’ll have to save the Republic.

Bob Livingston

is an ultra-conservative American and author of The Bob Livingston Letter™, founded in 1969. Bob has devoted much of his life to research and the quest for truth on a variety of subjects. Bob specializes in health issues such as nutritional supplements and alternatives to drugs, as well as issues of privacy (both personal and financial), asset protection and the preservation of freedom.

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  • Another Voice

    Finally, there is something which both the Right and the Left can agree upon: until we can get the corporate money out of the election process, the voices of the people mean absolutely nothing at all.

    • Michael J.

      Another Voice,
      “the voices of the people mean absolutely nothing at all.”

      And it will remain so until Americans re-focus on big picture issues and recognize the right-left clown act for what it is, a one party system with two faces.

      RON PAUL 2012

      • FreedomFighter

        Yes, the last chance at peacefull return of goverment to the people, we do have another chance — armed revolt, but only if the military sides with the constitution.

        The US Military must back the Constitution and the American people in revolt, that is the very last chance America has — Cival War.

        Laus Deo
        Semper Fi

        • former walmart person

          Things are different now than they were down in good ole’ dixie. Instead of the battle of Gettysburg, you have the “absolute slaughter” of Chicago where 90% of the city either falls ill and dies over a week from a bio attack or 50-70% of the city dies in minutes from neurological agent. Or in seconds from atomic blast. You get the point. The romantic days of charging into musket and cannon fire are history. If the military sides with the people, the elite can just nuke us or bio us all to death.

          • FreedomFighter

            They are few we are many.

            I will not live a microchiped slave, without rights, freedom or liberty.

            Will you?

            Laus Deo
            Semper Fi

          • former walmart person

            Neither will I. The only reason may be to avoid Hell if it does indeed exist. The Jews should have fought back during WW2 no matter how pointless it would have been because at least they could have died quickly on the battlefield and not slowly over weeks and months. It is agonzing for me to go a day without food let alone weeks. By the time the Jews walked into the gas chambers, it was probably a welcome end to the extreme suffering they faced in the camps.

          • cawmun cents

            As the wise man once stated,”Give me liberty,or give me death.”
            -CC.

          • Mark Are

            You need to do some research and read about how John Adams fought the British. He didn’t charge with muskets. And neither will we. I can assure you that it will be a guerrilla war of guerrilla wars. The NWO CAN be stopped.

          • Tom W.

            Then I take it that you say there’s no sense in putting up a fight because the elites have all the bases covered?! Spoken like a true Wally World warrior! I believe that there is a God in heaven who’s going to hold us accountable if we don’t put up a fight!!! Whose side do think that He’s on? He’s behind us to the bitter end! I’ve read the back of the Book, I know who’s going to Win!!!

          • Tom W.

            Have you never read about Haman’s gallows in the book of Ester in your Bible?!

          • elias

            When a few million angry Americans from all parts of the USA take to the streets to protest, the government will be powerless to do anything to control ALL of them. This has happened many times, in many countries in the ancient and modern world. It only takes a trigger point,an incident, which will touch the massess, triggering a mass outrage which will overwhelm the government and render them totally helpless.
            Remember the government can’t nuke or bio attack the whole country because the elite and their families will also be annihilated.
            I am confident that when Americans become good and tired of being oppressed and denied their Constitutional rights, the American people will take action and then things will change.

          • Flashy

            Elias…they have and are. It’s called the 99% protests…which are ridiculed on this site every day and calls go out to toss ‘em injail and break up the protests. Even though they are protesting the very same that the TPers on this site are saying what is wrong with this nation and government representation.

          • DaveH

            What are they protesting, Flashman?

          • Tom W.

            Flashy, the OWS protesters do not represent the same spirit that the posters on this site do! MOST of the folks on this site want the true American dream of Life, Liberty, and The Pursuit of Happiness, while the spirit displayed by the OWS protesters is one of anarchy! The last people I want telling me how things ought to be done are ones that don’t even know how to clean up their room or are too lazy to bathe regularly!!!
            Now I don’t agree with all of his political views, but he is one of the greatest and prolific American song writers that has ever been! His songs are true Americana and must’ve grew up in a neighborhood very similar to mine. And this tune of his, I think is one of the best songs ever penned!

            “The Promised Land” by Bruce Springsteen

            On a rattlesnake speedway in the Utah desert
            I pick up my money and head back into town
            Driving cross the Waynesboro county line
            I got the radio on and I’m just killing time
            Working all day in my daddy’s garage
            Driving all night chasing some mirage
            Pretty soon little girl I’m gonna take charge

            CHORUS
            The dogs on Main Street howl
            ’cause they understand
            If I could take one moment into my hands
            Mister I ain’t a boy, no I’m a man
            And I believe in a promised land

            I’ve done my best to live the right way
            I get up every morning and go to work each day
            But your eyes go blind and your blood runs cold
            Sometimes I feel so weak I just want to explode
            Explode and tear this whole town apart
            Take a knife and cut this pain from my heart
            Find somebody itching for something to start

            CHORUS

            There’s a dark cloud rising from the desert floor
            I packed my bags and I’m heading straight into the storm
            Gonna be a twister to blow everything down
            That ain’t got the faith to stand its ground
            Blow away the dreams that tear you apart
            Blow away the dreams that break your heart
            Blow away the lies that leave you nothing but lost and brokenhearted

            CHORUS
            I believe in a promised land…

            Copyright © Bruce Springsteen (ASCAP)

            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ekdXmPlCBOY

            Amen, Amen, and Amen! Do ya feel me now Deer?!!

          • Tom W.

            This is a very prophetic song, pay special attention to the last stanza!
            Keep your eyes on the skies! He loves y’all and so do I!!!

          • Tom W.

            God rest your soul Big Man!!!

          • Jay

            You still didn’t answer my question, libertytrain. Why do you interfere? And yes, it is, always, with a particular poster, namely, pastor Tom! Surely then, you approve of his hypocrisy? And speaking of hypocrisy; i’ve yet to see you respond to any of Tom’s viscous, and slanderous assaults directed at anyone, who, God forbid, should dare disagree with the pastor. Why is that, libertytrain? Clearly, that man needs to be wearing a leash, and a muzzle!

          • libertytrain

            Jay, You need to go over your paranoia.

        • FreedomFighter

          The Future of Humanity

          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z2t_k_Y9_Ro&feature=uploademail

          Laus Deo
          Semper Fi

        • Larry McNally

          For the past (?many) the major part of our military has shifted its training tactics and indoctrination to produce the world’s largest and most elite SWAT force earthly creation has ever known. All this occurred at times when family indoctrination deteriorated (full time working mothers and fathers) and public schooling indoctrination essentially disappeared (Civics study became a small subordinate to “Social Studies”.) Let us pray that the (our?) military finds a way to choose the right path to the side of the people.

        • Tom W.

          To which they are sworn FF!!!

          • John

            I, (NAME), do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God.
            ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

            So where does it say here they have to join an uprising against a rightfully elected government? In fact, it states clearly they have to defend the “rightful elected government”I.E. The US against domestic enemies….i.e. domestic uprising or to use the newest term, domestic terrorists.
            It does absolutely NOT mater if the people uprising consider them self patriots, constitutionalists, real Americans or what ever. The constitution and the laws have many venues for the people to make their grievance heard and addressed, an uprising or as some hope for “second revolution” is not one of them. In fact, I believe that the part that specifies domestic enemies is clearly in there to protect a government that has been elected using the tools provided by the constitution from sore losers that would revolt. The ONLY time that the military would be in their rights to go against the government is if that government is taken over by force either from within or the outside…. as long as the government of the US is rightfully elected by the people, the faction that loses the election has NO right to try and force their particular issue…and the military will not…can not by its oat overthrow a government that is elected by the people because a government elected by the people using the tools the constitution provides is a constitutional government and the military is pledged to protect it..Of course, they always can suspend the constitution and have the military take over the country just as in other 3rd world countries….but is that really what you want?

          • Pepper

            John: in the Oath you quoted, the Constitution is listed first and the “elected government” second. This should give you a sense of which one is more important.

            In such case where the orders received from the “elected government” are in violation of the Constitution, the Constitution should take precedence because by giving such orders, the “elected government” has become a “domestic enemy” that the Oath says you will protect against.

          • Tom W.

            The President of the United States is sworn to uphold the Constitution as well! If the elected officials are not upholding the Constitution, then the armed forces are sworn to uphold the Constitution and oust the corrupted officials!!! What did the Bible say about the days when evil would be called good and good would be called evil?
            Keep your eyes on the skies, Jesus is coming! He loves y’all and so do I!!!

          • Sunshine49

            What did the Bible say about the days when evil would be called good and good would be called evil?

            You are so right. If people only knew how much of our lives were being controlled for our own “good”, they would realize how evil the world has become.

            Everybody needs to read Revelations to understand how bad it’s going to get. Besides all the natural disasters, there will be starvation from genetic seed engineering and germ warfare.

            Besides the Bible there are a lot of other predictions about the end of civilization as we know it. What will happen in December of 2012 is that all the planets will line up in a row and the magnetic pull will shift the earth, causing massive earthquakes and volcanic eruptions. If Yellowstone would go up again, it would cover most of the U.S. in ash four inches deep. Crops would fail and most livestock would die causing mass starvation. It would be just the excuse that the government would need to declare Martial Law and throw out the Constitution. If you believe Revelations in the Bible, that should be the beginning of the one world government.

            In astronomy I’ve read that all the signs in the heavens for Jesus’ return will happen in the summer of 2015. Three and a half years after December of 2012. We’re already going through the first three and a half years before Satan and the one world order takes over.

            I would feel sorry for Ron Paul if he was President when it all hits the fan because he cares what happens to the people in America. Obama couldn’t care less. He would probably say good riddance and take off on another vacation!

            People need to Google “executive orders from hell” if they want to know what’s going to happen if the people try to revolt and the government puts us under Martial Law. What in the world do they think all the FEMA camps are about anyway? Made for all of us “domestic terrorists” in the event we try to fight back!

            I’m sure that some people will survive as God intends. I pray that I will be in that number to see Heaven on Earth after Jesus returns. We may not be able to prepare our bodies for what’s coming, but I hope that many people here are preparing their souls and that God will watch over all of us in the future hell that’s coming.

            Good luck and God Bless.

          • Old Henry

            Tom W:

            Technally the military should have removed Soetoro and Bidden a long time ago.

          • Flashy

            Henry…”technically” ? You are saying there should have been a military coup d’etat because the Pres. and Vice Pres. were elected by a majority of the voters?

            I’d ask why you believe the military should have removed the elected heads of our government, but I think the answer would be just as jaw dropping insane as stating the military “techically’ should have taken over…

          • Tom W.

            Because they’re, and the past eight administrations are as guilty as well, trampling the Constitution Flashy!!! As a matter of fact it is, and for very good reasons, theorized that was reason that JFK was assassinated, Because he finally figured out that the Military Industrial Complex was the threat that Dewight D. Eisenhower had been warning about for years! And when he started to talk about pulling the troops out of SE Asia, the MIC felt that he had to go! Once in their pocket, he had now become a threat to their business of war!!!

        • Lastmanstanding

          They will…as well as our police forces…they know the score as to what is at stake.

          • Mark Are

            Why do you believe this? It hasn’t been so in any other country on the planet and I think that the police actions and military actions against the citizens of New Orleans in wake of hurricane Katrina speak against the thought you have just written.

          • Lastmanstanding

            Look at how things have changed since them…I wasn’t even awake until 2 years ago…many are waking up…if you recall things didn’t really become crystal clear until 2008.

            Lots of military vet and current will not turn on the citizenry…the police are just like you and I…they have families, homes, kids and lives. Everyone stays in a shitty job when there is no other option. When the currency is destroyed why go to work…

            In fact, ask a policeman who’sside they are on…find out for yourself.

          • Lastmanstanding

            Look at how theings have changed since then. Katrina was 2005. Alot has happened since then.

            The crash and deception in 2008 opened my eyes, but I didn’t really wake up until 2 years ago.

            The military and vets will not side with the govt…ask them…our troops pay sucks and look what they do…Being a policeman right now isn’t the greatest job either…they are just like us…they have families, homes, debt, etc. We have all had crappy jobs in the past that we couldn’t get out of.

            For piece of mind ask them whose side that they are on…you will be pleasantly surprised.

          • Tom W.

            Has anyone ever heard of the Promise Keepers?!
            Not on our watch!!! To which I am an honorary member! If you belong to any order of our government SWORN to uphold and DEFEND the sacred principles of our founding documents, you should be a member of this brother and sisterhood!!!

            NOT ON OUR WATCH!!!

        • Old Henry

          An article of interest today in News With Views.

          http://www.newswithviews.com/Cuddy/dennis225.htm

      • James Williams

        The idea that one party of the two will be of any benefit to the regular person on the street is ludicrous. Big business has and always will come out on top. The elections are a scam, the people don’t nor never have elected the president. It is the electorial college that decides, and of course big business controls them.

        • Tom W.

          Only in their socialistic utopia James! This ain’t it!!! This is the Land of the Brave and the home of the Free! It is man’s basest instinct to be free, and once he has tasted that freedom, there is no other way to live!!!

          • Flashy

            Tom…and just how long have you been delusional? “It is man’s basest instinct to be free”

            Where do you find that? beig free means free thought. being free means thinking for oneself. Human beings never think for themselves, they find it too uncomfortable.

            For the most part, people simply repeat what they are told-and become upset if they are exposed to any different view. One reading of this site on any day proves this.

            The characteristic human trait is not awareness but conformity, and the characteristic result is religious warfare. As displayed EVERY DAY here..people state in so many words ff you don’t believe as they do, in whatever insane god they believe in, then you are the enemy because you “think’ differently and they will not allow freedom to think differently. it is dangerous to their need for conformity. .

            Other animals fight for territory or food; but, uniquely, people fight for their ‘beliefs.’ The reason is that beliefs guide behavior People are stubborn, self-destructive conformists. Any other view is just a self-congratulatory delusion.

            Basest instinct to be free. It’s just the opposite. There is a huge number who fear being anything but conformists in thought and act.

            Hopefully, as we evolve, if we don’t blow ourselves up or the strife sown by the conformists doesn’t bring down our civilization, the forward looking amongst us may jest save us from ourselves.

          • DaveH

            What is Freedom to you, Flashman?

          • Jay

            Flashy: For the most part, people simply repeat what they are told-and become upset if they are exposed to any different view. One reading of this site on any day proves this.

            The characteristic human trait is not awareness but conformity, and the characteristic result is religious warfare. As displayed EVERY DAY here..people state in so many words ff you don’t believe as they do, in whatever insane god they believe in, then you are the enemy because you “think’ differently and they will not allow freedom to think differently. it is dangerous to their need for conformity. .

            Flashman, are you an alien? Can i assume that you are a human being/person/people? Am i to deduce, therefore, from your spiel, that you somehow transcend the condition, or malady, as your philosophical prognosis suggests: “The characteristic human trait is not awareness but conformity, and the characteristic result is religious warfare.” is it possible, that perhaps, and unbeknownst to you, or that, you may be unaware of the fact, that you are projecting? You intimated in one of your responses to a poster that you studied logic, yet, i rarely see you apply this, logic, you speak of! Why is that? Why are you holding back? Clearly you have spoken out of anger, and anger expressed, is proof that reason has been supplanted, not with logic, but irrational emotions, thoughts, words, and deeds! The end result being? Well, i’ll leave you to answer that…

          • Tom W.

            Flashy, you’re calling me delutional?!! Beliefs are what separate us from the animals! What is the difference between man and animal? Besides the FACT that we are created in God’s image, we unlike any other life form on this planet are able to communicate our thoughts through, for example, the arts. Go ahead Flashmanikan another life form able to intellectually comunicate….. I’m waitng! Just one.

          • Tom W.

            Oh yeah, and the ability to spell!

          • Tom W.

            Damn that Jay dude is even deeper than Deerindeepdoodoo! Like whooo dude, who are ya tryin’ to impress? Yourself?!!

          • Jay

            Are you still upset that i exposed you for spiritual hypocrite that you are, Tom?

          • Tom W.

            You only expose yourself as the overly self-evaluated juvenile moron that you truly are Jay. As I have said before, A two year old is intellectually superior to you. You and about a half a dozen of the other fascist lemmings on this site better WAKE UP! Because it’s almost over!!! I feel sorry for y’all and your all in my prayers, but if you don’t open your eyes soon, There’s gonna be HELL to pay! (II Cor. 4:3&4)

          • Jay

            You need to look in the mirror Tom, and realize what a double-minded person you are. Christian? How can you profess to being a Christian? You bring down God’s wrath on anyone who doesn’t agree with you, showering them with hate and slander, yet, you can transform yourself into the worlds biggest brown-noser should someone agree with you, copying and pasting Holy Writ like a carnival barker on steroids! One need not be an intellectual genius to figure out that you are as phoney as a three dollar bill! I’ll ask you as before; How can you claim to bless God, while cursing His image(Man)?

          • libertytrain

            Jay, I’ve read your assorted posts long enough the last couple years to know you shouldn’t be pointing any of those fingers…

          • Jay

            libertytrain, why do you insist, and persist in interfering in my skirmishes, and that, only where pastor Tom is concerned? I’m sure pastor Tom is a big boy, you need not hold his hand!

          • libertytrain

            Jay, read your own comments some time. Has nothing to do with any poster in particular, rather your pointing fingers about who is and who is not the “real” Christian. I wasn’t aware you were granted a special power to make that decision. Perhaps you were, hard to believe though…

          • Jay

            Yet, you still didn’t answer my question, libertytrain. Why do you interfere? And yes, it is, always, with a particular poster, namely, pastor Tom! Surely then, you approve of his hypocrisy? And speaking of hypocrisy; i’ve yet to see you respond to any of Tom’s viscous, and slanderous assaults directed at anyone, who, God forbid, should dare disagree with the pastor. Why is that, libertytrain? Clearly, that man needs to be wearing a leash, and a muzzle!

        • WickedPickle

          “It is the electorial college that decides, and of course big business controls them”..

          And THAT’S why we need to be rid of them.. When the US was beginning there was a lot of space between communities and this electorial college was necessary in order to gather all the votes according to the voters but today, hell, today you can catch the early bird and be in China before dinner.. We also need to eliminate paydays for upper politicians.. Their rich men to begin with, why do they crave more? Serving this Country should be a privilege, not a financial burden on the people.. Good Gawd people, it’s nothing more than political welfare. They may at times deserve it but to them it’s chicken feed (thus they keep voting themselves raises) If they were in the same financial position that most middle class is then I could see it but look at them.. Millionaires STILL trying to con money out of the people they don’t give squat about in order to be elected and in their brain pan they’ve set up the scenario that the more money they can raise, the more chance they will win and just what do those fools who run decide to drop out? What happens to the money they raised? It’s all a scam, a joke.. And we’re the butt end of it.

      • Mark Are

        Ron Paul has said he is quitting if he comes in lower than second place in Virginia…

        • Old Henry

          That’s good Mark. As I recall Romney and Paul are the only two on the ballot in VA.

      • Tom W.

        A two sided coin, you may get heads, or you may get tails, but truth be told, it’s the same old, same old!!!

        • Tom W.

          Before I get sidetracked anymore I want to do what I first intended when I logged on this morning, kudos Bob on a great piece of journalism!!! You hit it right on the head sir! Excellent piece of work. I still have reservations about RP’s stance on the Islamic problem but as far as the domestic stuff, I think that he’s spot on!!! I hope that none of the left has anything to say positive about him, because that makes me think twice!

          • Old Henry

            Thank you OB1. I have gone to a couple other sites as Old Henry. Changing my ID seemed… I don’t know… misleading I guess. However, I suppose gurrilla tactics should dictate that we move around “out of sight”.

            I am very, very rarely off the mark in the long run and I am right on target with Little Barry. It is simple really. All it takes is common sense rationalizing, logic and the ability to just stand off to one side so to speak. It also helps to not give the south end of a rat what anyone else thinks.

      • OB1

        I have tremendous hope. God does not and will not fail. This quote from Solzhenitsyn is only a reminder to what has and can occur… Jesus said “Fear not” more than almost anything else in the recorded New Testament. We are not to fear, but to battle and fight it. This should be a battle fought with communicated words (internet and socially)fasting, and faith.

        “And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say goodbye to his family? Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling in terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand. The Organs (police) would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin’s thirst; the cursed machine would have ground to a halt!”
        –Alexander Solzhenitsyn

        Also:
        Men Have Forgotten God–Templeton speech

        http://orthodoxnet.com/blog/2011/07/men-have-forgotten-god-alexander-solzhenitsyn/

        • Tom W.

          Preach it OB1! Preach it bro! Come on, can I get a big Amen!!! Tell me something, wouldn’t you have liked to here Barack sing this Al Green tune?!!
          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kIyQefMvl8g&feature=fvst

          Preach it Al!!!

        • Old Henry

          The difference is…. we have guns, and millions of them.

          • OB1

            I hope so, but unfortunately that will not be enough this time. This is going to require a George S. Patton of the internet. You inspire me…(for a long time). Go to other websites and speak it Old Henry! I know you can do it! Change your user name to Tinkerbell then the trolls are not afraid! Change you city town and country! Just speak yourself…and be an 8 year old girl! Go! I love your posts and they have encouraged and inspired me to make alot of changes. I can’t move right now, but I can do many things different. Thank you for just being you. Let ‘em have it…

          • Tom W.

            OH! Shhhh!! Let it be a surprise!!!

      • Old Henry

        Michael J:

        That would, heaven forbid, require the American voters to do some homewor and do some independent crital thinking and ignoring the MSM.

        Over the week end I read an article on Town Hall by Chuck Norris where he endorsed Newtie. He put forth 10 questions regarding what our nominee should meet. As I read them I kept thinking Ron Paul. When I got to the end and saw Newtie I was dumb-founded due to the author.

        Ole Chuck is now crossed off my list as people I will read. He has exposed himself for what he is.

    • Flashy

      AV…you nailed it square.

      Seems President Obama called it right during his first State of the Union when he called Citizens United a wrongful decision and called for campaign finance reform.

      Who knows if Pres. Obama, Romney etc would have to accept the money from the monied elite if they didn’t have to? As it stands now, Gingrich received ONE contribtion and flooded the SC airwaves because he had the funds.

      With the ruling of Citizens United (remember Scalia shaking his head no when Obama said it was going to cause the exact situation we now have?)… there is one answer available which is easily and quickly available…if Congress can be pushed to pass it.

      Immediate disclosure by the PACs and the candidates of all contributors, the dates the money was given, who they worked for, and how much. Any claim it would be impossible to update the lists every 24 hours is lying..this is the Computer Age. How could they deposit the cash if they did not have the entry in the books?

      i’d say full and immediate disclosure the name, amount, who employed by, and address (“immediate” being within 24 hours) by BOTH the donor and the PAC/Candidate.

      Steve Colbert and Jon Stewart are showing us exactly how much of a farce the current situation is…and how we are not allowed to know who’s involved.

      AV..you are correct. This may be the one thread we all hold hands singing Kumbaya together in a united agreement.

      • http://Personalliberty Tony

        To Flashy:
        Right on!! The scary thing is,what you say is so true. Thanks!!

      • Jay

        Flashy: if Congress can be pushed to pass it.
        Immediate disclosure by the PACs and the candidates of all contributors, the dates the money was given, who they worked for, and how much.

        And you expect this, from Congress? You truly are deluded, Flashy. That’s like having the crime syndicate preside over its own parole board! Try again again, you nub!

        • Flashy

          Jay…I didn’t say it would be easy…I offered up a possible solution to the current mess. your solution (reasonable) is?

          So…you voting for your incumbent come the fall?

          • Jay

            You obviously failed to glean the message from Mr. Livigston’s article. Simply put: The wolf(s) are in charge of the hen-house. What you’re suggesting is that we negotiate/plead/bargain with the wolf(s)!

          • Flashy

            i have little hope actually. When the 99% protests are attacked daily by the TPers etc…even though the subjects being protested are almost on every subject in agreement with the TP cries of woe…

            I have little hope. There is too much fear, hate and ignorance as exemplified by the TP and its members. They offer no hope other than to instill amongst their controllers the knowledge they will not have change foisted upon them by the People.

          • DaveH

            You said that before. But what are they protesting, Flashman?

          • TML

            I think he’s saying they are protesting the corporate influence in politics. Or as they say, the “elites”, or “1%”, hence it is an international movement/protest.

      • DaveH

        Here we have a guy who supports Obama, the least transparent President in my life, telling us that Obama has the answers. Sure, Flashman.
        You have no credibility on this board, Flashman.
        http://www.infowars.com/obama-less-transparent-than-bush-cheney-on-campaign-donors/.

        Campaign Contributions aren’t our main problem. Our main problem is a mass of citizens who get their campaign choices from sound-bites on a TV. Our main problem is a mass of citizens who have been propagandized into an apathetic stupor by Government Public Schools, Government sycophantic media, and other propaganda operatives like the troll Flashman.

        • John

          But if we had a conservative government, all that indoctrination in schools and other would still happen…just with a different slant…. but then it would be just A.O.K. right?

          Education should be neutral, and not slanted either religious or political…but that’s not how it is. There are as many right slanted schools as there are left slanted schools and as long as all factions believe that its their way or no way, we will have conflicts. True neutrality in education would solve this.

          Fact is also, All candidates make use of the same tools, all parties use the internet, the airwaves, the printed media and other. The conservatives use religion to top it of, and don’t tell me it is not true, you should hear the sermons of the local preacher…
          Fact is, they all have access to the same tools, airwaves and TV adds are available to them for the SAME price independent of your political leaning… in fact, by law it has to be the absolute lowest price the station accepts for any of its services and it has to be the same price. independent who runs the add…and by law, political adds during elections can NOT be denied by any commercial radio or TV station. All information on political advertisement, the amount the candidates pay for how many units per time and so on are displayed at the TV/Radio station in the so called public file …open for anyone to see…and I mean anyone …even the homeless drunk that just wants to warm up and thus spends an hour looking through the folders. Want to see who paid for what locally, go to the station and ask to see the public folder…you can even make copies of the files for a small nominal fee per page (by law not to exceed the local public fees for copying at Kinko’s or what not)Printed media is slightly different, but heck who reads a printed news paper anyways these days.

          If people are influenced by political advertisements (a part of the economy that provides hundreds of thousands of jobs)Then don’t blame the advertisers, or the advertisements for it but blame the people who rather believe that everything they see on TV or hear on radio is true then doing their home work and educating them self. The tools are out there, but unfortunately one can not force people to overcome their own laziness… and this statement is true as much for the left as it is for the right…. people are lemmings and sometimes I think that people WANT to be lied to because it appears to make the burden of life easier to bear.

          • DaveH

            Do you know the difference between Propaganda, John, and facts?

          • DaveH

            And John, if you truly believe that all education is biased, then you should embrace Freedom of Educational Choice. Let the students and/or their parents decide what they want to learn.

          • John

            Of course I know the difference between propaganda and facts, but that’s not the point, if a faction chose to run just with the facts ok, if a faction chooses to run with propaganda, o.k. with me too. Fact is, they all use the same tools and the same access to those tools. Yes some have more money then others, but that is a fact of life, some will always have more then others, and that’s how it should be…if we all had the same, innovation and progress would stop because there would be no incentive for them….In the end, it is up to the individual to separate fact from fiction. Because like it or not what one person sees as fact, the other may as well see as fiction…

          • Flashy

            DaveH…last i heard, you can sedn your child to any school you choose to. Even home school them if you so choose.

          • DaveH

            Last I heard, you can do that but you have to pay from your own wallet usually, and still pay for other peoples’ children on top of that.

          • OB1

            DaveH, you can Homeschool, plus the publics will “help you” to keep you on the govt. radar. I paid to “The Home School legal defense fund” in case of a controversy. The Govt did not go after homeschooling, they will go after any infringement they can get you with. That is what happened and what I saw. Rick Santorum was the senator who made it possible for any person convicted of any type of abuse, (grab a child’s wrist, push back to an aggressive teen or child) to never be given a right to own a firearm. The elites used this 2 ways: oe to stop parents from enforcing limits and boundaries, and another to control guns. Check out Santorum’s record on gun troll legislation and another on no child left behind. You are better at me than this, but I do have it.

    • DaveH

      Both sides would agree to a lot more, Another Voice, if both sides weren’t so severely propagandized. The truth is out there for anybody who wants to lift the blinders. They just need to do some reading, like this book, for instance:
      http://mises.org/books/historyofmoney.pdf

      • Flashy

        Mises again. Dave.. do you get paid by that imitation of the Weekly World News ?

        • DaveH

          I can count of Mises to provide informative truthful information, Flashman, unlike yourself.
          And they’re called references, Flashman, because even though I’m an honest man (unlike yourself), I still wouldn’t expect the readers to just take my word for it.

          • John

            Unfortunately, there is NO true neutral media, all of them have a slant to further their cause and thus events are displayed that way. News organizations do not exist to tell the truth or not tell lies, they exist to make money.. and they all get the same basic news from the same few sources.. it is just displayed with a different emphasis on the story. The only way to get the truth is to read media from all sites (even if it is inconvenient) and try to filter the common truth out of the provided information. Or subscribe to the same news services those organizations subscribe to (expensive for the raw info) and make up your own mind.

          • DaveH

            Study some of the writings at mises.org, John. If you come away thinking they’re making stuff up to suit their biases than you can talk.

          • Flashy

            LOL..Mises followers are proof drugs rot the brain.

          • DaveH

            You, Flashman, are the rot.

        • DaveH

          The real question the readers should be asking is “Why is Flashman so afraid of Mises?”, and “Why does Flashman attack the organization rather than addressing their facts and rebutting them if he thinks they’re wrong?”. The answer, of course, is that Flashman’s only tools are manipulative tools, because his Fabricated Facts can’t stand up to scrutiny.

          • Jay

            The answer as to why Flashy is here, is cleverly revealed in your second question, DaveH.

          • s c

            DaveH, no utopian on this website has the courage (or the talent) to dispute von Mises. Even reading von Mises is a collective no-no. Those few utopians who can read by themselves know that if they let themselves read von Mises (without written, prior approval), they’ll be excommunicated from ‘the true faith.’
            Frankly, their arrogance smacks of a very childish form of anal retention, and I don’t see any reason to try and coax them out of their dreamland. They’re addicted, and to them it’s “as good as it gets.” Once a utopian, always a utopian.

          • Flashy

            DaveH…when you attack me prsonally, when you post a link which doesn’t also carry the end reesult of the dispute, when all you can retort to any writing is calling for references…I win.

            You can’t come up with a cohesive independent thought. So you attack me personally with false information or you claim without rebuttal i lie, and you never ever have come up with counter argument.

            Now go to your Mises and post a link which anyone with any credibility would have a problem rebutting…because they are too tied up in laughing that anyone would believe it.

          • DaveH

            Flashman, the regular readers know who needs to do the personal attacking in lieu of facts. Who do you think you’re fooling?
            It will be a cold day in the hot place when you win a debate with me.
            I can beat you in any mental contest except lying. In that, you would admittedly beat me hands down.

    • SMsgt Z(ret) Nam 68

      Half way through this book
      Greedy Bastards by Dylan Ratigan and this YouTube “Amend 2012″ though a left leaning site is what would be a start in getting our government back.

      • DaveH

        Who’s Greedier, the people who want to keep their own legally earned property, or the people who want to take it away from them?
        If you think Government is the solution, Sgt, then you need to explain to me why the size of Government is inversely proportional to the size of the economy in this list of countries:
        http://heritage.org/index/ranking

        • DaveH
        • SMsgt Z(ret) Nam 68

          The Greedy Bastards are the bankers , corporations and politicians selling out the American people for profit.Sorry you have to be spoon feed every thing

        • eddie47d

          Who said it was “legally earned” Dave. They make the rules to achieve that “earned” money. The rest of us only have to sit back and accept it as “earned”.If you complain about their ill gotten gains a person is labeled as a communist and the truth be damned. As for me I’ll keep fighting those sinister capitalists whether crony or otherwise. When they are no better than the communists in taking from others then they don’t deserve any respect either.

          • DaveH

            So, Eddie, you know I believe that Crony Capitalists rig the game. So what are you doing about that? Are you voting for Politicians that want Government out of the Marketplace? If you aren’t, then you are part of the problem, because as long as Government is allowed to meddle in the Marketplace, they will favor their Cronies. It’s just a fact of life.

    • Jim VanBeek

      It is not just “Corporate Money” that we need to get out of politics. All OPM Money should be eliminated. OPM is Other People’s Money. Companies should have no right to contribute to candidates that the stock holders disagree with. Similarly, Unions should not be able to support candidates that some members do not support. Government money should also be excluded from lobbying. Simply let only individuals contribute money to politician’s, political parties, and lobbyists. Individuals should have the right to contribute to whom they would like. But people should not be forced to contribute to those that they do not support whether through corporations, unions, or taxes.

    • Paul

      Ever since 1913 the banksters who can print all the money they want have owned our government. The two parties are always in control of the guys who fill the seats in congress, the senate and the white house. No matter how dedicated they are when they run they learn to enjoy the power and perks and are quickly told that the way to stay is money and the party bosses control the money so all their wonderful, altruistic goals are gone by the time of the next campaign or they are simply swept away by some candidate who will play ball. And those folks are not the real power. The staffers are the real permanent government. Your party gives you “experienced” staffers so that you will be able to get up to speed faster. These are the people who write the bills – unless the interest group paying for it writes it themselves. Nobody reads them, most don’t even read the synopsis. Their aid says this is good for them to support and they sign on.

      The bills themselves are too big for anyone to read so there are always little gotchas hidden in there for your opponent to use against you in the next election. The first vote on the patriot act was held less than an hour after the bills were delivered from the white house.

      I look at our early documents. Most were short. Look at the declaration of independence and the constitution. Very short and easy to understand, though of course lawyers and judges have twisted even these all out of any logical interpretation.

      Campaign finance is the ultimate evil for controlling the government. A simple change where only people who are eligible to vote can contribute to that campaign. No companys, no unions, no special issue groups like the NRA and AARP, no candidates in “safe” districts, and most importantly, no political parties.

      Next on the list is how the elections are run. The primaries are designed such that most of us never get a chance to choose from all the possible choices. If we eliminate the primaries, which are a way of guaranteeing that most people only see the Reps and Demos as “real” candidates. An instant runoff voting system combined with changing to a direct election where all the candidate of whatever party are listed on a single ballot and the voters list one through five and this allows a simple method to find a candidate that has the support of the majority of American voters rather than what we have now where at best someone with support of around 40% of the public gets into office. It also eliminates the spoiler effect where a democrat and a green party candidate split the liberal vote and a republican with much less than half of the votes gets in. It worked the same when the Reform party split the Republican vote letting Clinton in with much less than half the votes.

      Sadly, we cannot trust our elected officals to make the changes. I’m not sure that even a constitutional convention would succeed. Revolution against a power military and police force like we have here in the US today would make it very hard. It would definitely be a guerrilla war but can that even succeed today? I wish I had a good idea of how we get to where we should be from where we are today.

  • http://gillysrooms.blogspot.com GILLYSROOMS in Australia

    In my opinion..one main issue is that if these groups had to be saved for the sake of the country…the govt should have made them loans [NOT FREE GRANTS] secured against assets and shares/equity in these groups…so that the feds could sell out at a later date over time and recover the outlays to reduce borrowings. Borrowings are not so bad if you have assets of value in return.

    • Sol of Texas

      Gilly, mate –

      Do you know who owns the Federal Reserve Bank?
      Anyone out there know how the Fed is structured?
      (For me this is a rhetorical question, but I will
      be amazed if more than 10% of my fellow citizens
      can answer the question accurately).

      Cheers.

      • tammom

        The member banks own the Federal Reserve. Not the govt or the citizens!! They are the power of this country. Not our govt!!! The member banks top owners are the family members of Rockefeller, Rothchild, Morgan and more. . . They own us! And any president is no more than a puppet for them! Our citizens don’t get it. So sad. They keep getting stupider so they never will and we will all be slaves.

    • DaveH

      How do you think the country was saved, Gilly, by taking money from people who were doing the right thing and giving it to those who weren’t?

  • Mike B.

    Seeing the votes so far makes me wonder what these people are thinking. Its obvious that we live in the world of the soundbite because if a majority of the people would actually investigate the candidates then they would understand Ron Paul is the only answer that makes sense. Now that my have truly been opened it is so frustrating to see others not understanding what this man is truly about. He’s the only true conservative vote out there.

    • FreedomFighter

      Think voter fraud, he who controlls the vote machines control the vote.

      Laus Deo
      Semper Fi

      • Sol of Texas

        FF –

        Isn’t there a Joe Stalin proverb that goes something like:
        “It is enough that the people know there was an election. The people who cast the votes decide nothing. The people who count the votes decide everything.”?

        I think Stalin also observed:
        “Ideas are more powerful than guns. We would not let our enemies have guns, why should we let them have ideas.”
        :-o

        • DaveH

          And that is why the Politicians are working so hard to control our Internet.

      • OB1

        Paul supporters, check out truethevote and volunteer as a poll watcher to prevent voting frauds. We want a fair game!

        • Susie4Liberty

          And quite seriously, how do we watch voting machines? And we KNOW that a ‘few’ voting precincts have NEVER shown up…

          I miss going to the County square with my siblings in the back of Daddy’s pick-up, loads of quilts, to watch the vote tabulation on a huge blackboard (so it seemed to me) as the tally rolled in from the city/county/state…

          Song yesterday on local station here: “fights were settled with someone’s having a bloody nose…with no knife or gun…and a stranger approaching was just a friend we hadn’t had a chance to know.”

          Sorry – mind wandering to really good times in Texas…when I was a little girl. And I’m becoming ‘olden’ somehow, and I’ve not forgotten.

    • eddie47d

      Isn’t Bankster fraud and buying elections an even bigger form of fraud? Citizen’s United only helped entrench those payoff’s.

      • DaveH

        They could spend all the money they wanted and it would do no good if the electorate would do their homework.

        • NC

          DaveH. you can get a 100% fair elcetion and you can’t make 13% a winner? Winners rule! That’s what elections are about!If Ron Paul was Jesus and got 13% HE STILL LOSES! That’s what the Constitution is about!

          • DaveH

            Duh, NC, the elections aren’t over.

          • DaveH

            And, NC, the Constitution is all about defining the powers given to the Federal Government, and protecting the citizens and the States from the Federal Government. Read it, and learn something:
            http://www.cato.org/pubs/constitution/constitution_en.html

          • Susie4Liberty

            And I would agree with you, NC – except for this: The Corporate GOP announced quite openly that there was no way they were ‘going to let’ Dr. Paul win. So, how do people battle THOSE odds?

    • DaveH

      We have all been heavily Propagandized. It takes time and good information for the veil to be lifted. It won’t be an easy task.
      For those who truly would like to get a sense of just how heavily we’ve been brainwashed — read this book:
      http://www.amazon.com/Real-Lincoln-Abraham-Agenda-Unnecessary/dp/0761526463/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1327331733&sr=8-1

      If that doesn’t wake you, you’re hopeless.

  • home boy

    watch what happens with the electorial vote.

  • Tazio2013

    Okay. It’s time somebody says it. Something seems very strange about the GOP primary pre-polling and vote thus far.

    As a Ron Paul fan, I didn’t want to seem like a sore loser after the odd Iowa result where the failed no-name Senator, Rick Santorum, was catapulted to victory with very little tangible support.

    But, now, how on earth could Newt Gingrich win the South Carolina primary when the day before the vote he had to cancel a major campaign stop because of lack of attendance?

    http://www.activistpost.com/2012/01/theres-something-very-odd-about-gop.html

    • former walmart person

      Finally you guys figure out that your vote doesn’t matter. Look, even if by some miracle, Ron Paul wins the Republican primary, and even if by an even greater miracle on par with the second comming of Christ, Ron Paul wins the Presidency, the elites will just assasinate him if they have to. Either that, or they unleash a bio weapon, all hell breaks loose, half of us die, and a military dictatorship that people will beg for will become our new master.

      Ron Paul is one man. A great man, but he is just one. We have to change things from the bottom up. Doing it through the Presidency just isn’t realistic.

      • Robert, TX

        Agreed! So FIRE CONGRESS and elect Ron Paul! Of course, when we FIRE CONGRESS it would be nice if we replace them with independent, and citizens instead of more RINOS and communists.

        • Lastmanstanding

          Our elected officials (for lack of any better term since NDaa signed) have given nearly half of our US population a free ride for their vote. (and that includes those who are govt employees) the only exemption is our US military who is being used to carry out the politicians orders. Look at the troops donations to Ron Paul…thr troops have figured it out.

          Every election begins at the 50/50 point and all of that bs money is spent to move the pendulum a very short distance one way or the other.

          those of us in the know…realize that whatever way it goes IT STILL SUCKS BEYOND BELIEF.

        • Mark Are

          I make the effort to share this information because it gives me, at last, a plausible answer to a long-unanswered question: Why, no matter how much intelligent goodwill exists in the world, is there so much war, suffering and injustice? It doesn’t seem to matter what creative plan, ideology, religion, or philosophy great minds come up with, nothing seems to improve our lot. Since the dawn of civilization, this pattern repeats itself over and over again.

          The answer is that civilization, as we know it, is largely the creation of psychopaths. All civilizations, our own included, have been built on slavery and mass murder. Psychopaths have played a disproportionate role in the development of civilization, because they are hard-wired to lie, kill, cheat, steal, torture, manipulate, and generally inflict great suffering on other humans without feeling any remorse, in order to establish their own sense of security through domination. The inventor of civilization – the first tribal chieftain who successfully brainwashed an army of controlled mass murderers – was almost certainly a genetic psychopath. Since that momentous discovery, psychopaths have enjoyed a significant advantage over non-psychopaths in the struggle for power in civilizational hierarchies – especially military hierarchies.

          Behind the apparent insanity of contemporary history, is the actual insanity of psychopaths fighting to preserve their disproportionate power. And as their power grows ever-more-threatened, the psychopaths grow ever-more-desperate. We are witnessing the apotheosis of the overworld – the overlapping criminal syndicates that lurk above ordinary society and law just as the underworld lurks below it.

          During the past fifty years, psychopaths have gained almost absolute control of all the branches of government. You can notice this if you observe carefully that no matter what illegal thing a modern politician does, no one will really take him to task. All of the so called scandals that have come up, any one of which would have taken down an authentic administration, are just farces played out for the public, to distract them, to make them think that the democracy is still working.

          Continued:

          www(dot)whale(dot)to/b/callahan1(dot)html

      • Tazio2013

        @former walmart person

        You are one prescient individual. Keep thinking and writing. The revolution will be televised.

        “But the battle is not in the physical world but in our Mind. We have only scratched the surface of who we are but are too afraid to leave our metaphorical city, where we feel safe. The control mechanisms in the world are reflections of the barbed wire in our Mind. It is safe to leave the ‘City’ and go outside. There is nothing to fear.”

        http://merovee.wordpress.com/2012/01/21/logans-run-v-1984/

        Sapere Aude

      • Brian

        You’re right – doing it through the presidency is a non-starter…Even IF Ron Paul is elected president, he has to convince 435 other Senators and House of Representatives members that his is the right way to go…Won’t happen…THAT’S why we need TERM LIMITS of one term! And anybody that uses the lame excuse of “well, we won’t have any experience up there” – we see how well that has done up to now! TERM LIMITS will change the TYPE of person that wants to get ‘that job’ and the thinking of those up there…

        • fedup

          Yes, but half of the Senate is also up for re-election this time too.

          • Buster the Anatolian

            Isn’t it one third?

        • DaveH

          Sorry, Brian. I don’t mean this as a personal insult, but Term Limits are a pipe-dream. If we can’t even get the electorate to educate themselves and vote the rascals out. How do you think we’re going to get elected officials to limit their stays in office?
          Our problem is a voter education problem, and even if we could get self-interested Politicians to vote limits on themselves, not much would change.

        • John

          We have term limits, its called elections, everything else is only taking the choice away from voters.

          • Jim VanBeek

            Teh problem is that incumbents rig the rules in favor of incumbents (and the two major parties for that matter.) They like to limit spending so that those in office with the name recognition can win. Incumbents have franking priveledges to send out free mail. Incumbents do all kinds of things to win votes through their spending, taxing, and regulating. The playing field is not at all fair. Elections rarely turn out incumbents.

          • John

            JIM, If we had term limits, Ron Paul would have been a non starter and long since forgotten.

      • tammom

        I feared the same thing for Ron Paul—unless there truly is a god that will look out for righteousness.
        It’s hard to formulate what we could all possibly do to change things. The other problem is that it does appear that the economic system is so far into ruin by these gambleaholics, that they don’t even know any other course of action. To change the whole economic system would be one HUGE HUGE endeavor. . Wouldn’t it? Effects on the whole wide world.

      • http://www.readwhatisee.com P Alfonso

        I see that we live in the same world. Which is why I am convinced that the first step into coming to the real world is to understand the truth about 9/11. Without it the total concept of the deception and what these bankers are able and willing to do is incomprehensible in its entirety. Understanding the true nature of events reveals how ruthless they are and how much power their controlled media can have over the people. Without understanding this one cannot imagine what they would do to us in order to save themselves. They have broken so many laws and committed so many crimes that they can no longer yield power without suffering the wrath of the people as during the French Revolution.

        At this point our best and likely only option that would benefit the people would be a second American Revolution in which we could gain some concessions. Most people to this day still believe that we totally won the revolution as if having the Bank of England controlling America’s money was total freedom and independence.

        • alfonse_t

          A great movie that supports you assertion is”Capricon One”. About the first manned space flight to Mars

      • John

        There is only on fallacy with your argument, by the time we the people get a candidate presented to us, that candidate is already bought and paid for by the same people who control the puppets in congress today…
        A honest candidate that can be bought will never make it onto the ballot.

        • John

          The should have read: A honest candidate that can’t be bought will never make it onto the ballot.

        • DaveH

          Ron Paul made it. Whether others make it or not depends entirely on us.

          • John

            Ron Paul made it loooooooong time ago, He is a dinosaur, a leftover from a long bygone era. In todays time of inherent corruption, good luck finding anyone to make it into the race that is not bought for. just look at who is supporting whom, If ron Paul would be 40 yeARS YOUNGER AND TRY TO GET ANYWHERE

          • John

            Ron Paul made it long time ago, He is a dinosaur, a leftover from a long bygone era. In today’s time of inherent corruption, good luck finding anyone to make it into the race that is not bought for. just look at who is supporting whom, If Ron would be 40 years younger and tried to make it into politics today he would have no chance in hell

          • John

            Sorry about double post but the browser is behaving badly today.

    • FreedomFighter

      Vote machine fraud, vote fraud, deciet lies, manipulation…theft of votes…

      these mobsters have such control, they can make the vote anything and the people who voted stand around wondering who all the idiot voters are…

      Laus Deo
      Semper Fi

      • Debbie

        We can’t stop all the fraud, but we can make a difference. Please, everyone, regardless of which candidate you support, get involved in helping to make the elections fair and honest.

        http://watchthevote2012.com/

        http://transparentvote.net/

        • DaveH

          We have it in our power right now to eliminate (or at least greatly diminish) voter fraud. Here is how:
          Computerized voting would save the day. But so many people have been brainwashed against such a thing that implementing it is going to be very difficult. And the Political Class of course would rather not have such a robust system.
          Anyway, here’s roughly how we could implement such a thing:
          We could have two databases for each election. One database would store the ‘voter information’ (Identification, address, polling place, etc.). And the other database would store the ‘votes cast’ with a unique alphanumeric ID which would be given to each voter at the polling place. The polling place would also be stored on this database to identify problem polling places. Only the voter would know his alphanumeric ID so secrecy would be preserved. And the voter would be given a printout to verify how he/she voted.
          The database would be accessible by the public. Anyone or any organization could check the ‘voter information’ database to see if any illegal voters cast votes. The votes in the ‘votes cast’ database could be easily tallied by anyone to see if votes were counted correctly and that the number of votes matched the number of voters in the ‘voter information’ database. Also, an individual voter would be able to check his alphanumeric ID to see that his votes are in the database correctly, and if not, he/she could notify the proper authorities or the proper news media. The ‘votes’ database could be corrected periodically to account for any corrections that were made by citizens claiming their votes were not entered correctly, or votes discovered to be made by dead people, convicts, etc.
          It would be virtually impossible for officials to alter the databases without being detected since thousands or even millions of people would be checking it to make sure their votes were entered correctly.

    • Mary

      Tazio, I’m in shock. What’s going in on here? We are cooked.

      • FreedomFighter

        Why the future doesn’t need us.

        Our most powerful 21st-century technologies – robotics, genetic engineering, and nanotech – are threatening to make humans an endangered species.

        By Bill Joy

        http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/8.04/joy.html

        Laus Deo
        Semper Fi

        • Tazio2013

          I read this Wired article in 2000 and appreciate that you brought it to my attention again as it will always be worth reading by those relatively few of US with eyes to see and ears to hear, especially the excerpt from Ted Kaczynski’s Unabomber Manifesto; truly a cautionary tale.

          Tuam libera mentem
          Semper fi!

    • DaveH
  • Insurgent

    The corruption at the federal level is beyond control and the downfall of a once great nation continues to slide deeper into
    the political toilet.
    It is no longer about the good of the American taxpayer, it is about
    the greed and the power of the lying, professional politicians !!!

    Washington, DC is America’s cesspool for liars, whores, and thieves.

  • singer23

    I shall now, “Unsubscribe,” from this site! I do not agree with your recommendation to vote for Ron Paul! I actively support Newt Gingrich. I support him financially and totally disagree with your assessment of his chances to win the Presidency. He connects with many of the American people, maybe not the Ron Paul supporters, they connect with only each other! No Thanks, I’ll take my chances with Newt Gingrich!

    • Robert, TX

      Well, so sad. The really sad thing is now that Newt has literally LIED to everyone of consequence in his life, he is really full of himself – and like a child thinks he got away with something. I’m sure that after we won the Revolutionary War, hundreds of tories wished that they had signed the Declaration of Independence. Once Newt and his neocons stab you in the back, you’ll wish you had a candidate like Ron Paul, only then it may be too late.

    • Tazio2013

      @singer23

      You, Sir or Madam, are indeed a Moron and your “unsubscription” to PLD will be welcomed by all free-market thinking individuals.

      Semper fi!

    • Tall Ted

      “If his wife can’t trust him, why should I?” Ross Perot.

      • Sol of Texas

        TT –
        :-)

        I presume Perot was referring to Slick Willie. That is beautiful.

        … solvendam pecuniam omnia alia.
        (… all others pay cash.)

      • Tom W.

        TT, Why it’s as plain as the ears on my head! – Ross Perot
        My favorite RP moment was at a debate between Slick Willie, Bush the ancient, and RP. I can’t remember who the moderator was but Bill had just got finished touting all the things he had accomplished in the state of Arkansaw when the moderator turned to Mr. Perot and asked him what he thought of SW’s accomplishments in Arkansaw, now the debate had pretty much up until that point been Ross and Bill tag teaming HW, and Ross looked right into the camera and said, “Just cause you got a good ole’ boy who can run the corner grocery store don’t mean ya put him in charge of Wal-Mart.” The shot in the back look on Bill Clinton’s face was……… PRICELESS!!! It’s been hard even sharing this because I keep LOL reminiscing about it! You had to be there!!!

    • Lastmanstanding

      amf…look into newt for the real truth about him.

    • Patriot Diva

      Sorry to hear that Singer. But think about this. If Newt is a conservative, why would he:
      1. Do a commericial supporting global warming with Nancy Pelosi?
      2. Support the liberal RINO Dede Scozzafava for senate instead of the
      tea party candidate?
      3. Support amnesty for illegals
      4. Be a member of the globist organization Council on Foreign
      Relations (CFR), whixch supports a one world government under
      United Nations rule?

      These questions are just for starters. They can all be verified with a little research. It’s food for thought.

      • Sirian

        Very good points Patriot Diva. I’ve mentioned before on other article comments that Newt is a well disguised Progressive/RINO but needless to say, the usual back lash. Granted, he is a very good “wordsmith” but that doesn’t change the facts, it simply doesn’t.

    • DaveH

      The Obamabots would annihilate Newt Gingrich. What does he offer that Obama doesn’t for those who vote for freebies, or who vote for less Freedom and more Government intrusion?
      The 40% of voters who are on the Government dole are a shoo-in for Obama. And the other 60% will be split between one Immoral Freedom-Taking guy or the other.

    • Debbie

      That’s interesting. You might want to subscribe to newsmax.com
      I just unsubscribed from them because they kept pushing Gingrich, not with a single article, but many. To each his own. Personally, I cannot support Newt due to his involvement with Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac or his many votes in favor of bills that will further erode our freedom and drive us deeper into debt.

      • DaveH

        Newsmax is an establishment Republican publication.

    • Karolyn

      He “connects with many of the American people?” What? In my opinion he doesn’t appear to connect with anyone but himself. I just don’t get how so many people can back up an untrustworthy fraud like him!

      • DaveH

        For the Establishment Republicans it’s ABP (anybody but Paul). They are scared out of their plaid pajamas that a Real Freedom Lover might get nominated.

    • John

      Rush Limbaugh said earlier, he does NOT care about the baggage Newt has, he does not care how much of shyster he is, that Fanny Mae and thus Newt who got paid by them caused millions to lose their homes, he does not care about the moral corruption that Newt stands for, All he cares is that there is a person that can fight and thus could beat Obama…. and how dare anyone asked questions about the shysters life and actions.
      The moment we throw our morals and the foundations this country is build on out for a purely political goal and thus don’t care if the person we support is a shyster or thief that is the moment we have lost all credibility and have lost this country…

      • DaveH

        Rush has been promoting Establishment Republicans ever since I can remember.

    • Jay

      singer23:I shall now, “Unsubscribe,” from this site! I do not agree with your recommendation to vote for Ron Paul! I actively support Newt Gingrich. I support him financially and totally disagree with your assessment of his chances to win the Presidency. He connects with many of the American people, maybe not the Ron Paul supporters, they connect with only each other! No Thanks, I’ll take my chances with Newt Gingrich!

      singer, for future reference; did you know that it is possible, prior to subscribing to a blogging site, to familiarize yourself with the site’s philosophy, and political leaning(s)? Feel free to pass this information along to your friends, and people of similar ilk, this way, you can spare yourselves from anxiety, and we can spared from your, idiotic drama!

    • OB1

      Please consider the fact that Newt is a member of the CFO, Council of Foreign Relations (an arm of the UN one worlder’s) and a 33rd degree Free Mason. Let alon the fact that he pushed NAFTA through for the Clinton administration (G. Bush Sr. was in favor as well.) He also has attended the Bohemian Club sickness of the elites in the San Francisco Bay area. I suggest you google these things for yourself. Educating yourself is far better than myself posting negative comments about the man. He has a track record as well as all of the candidates do….except Obama. Who do you think puts them all there???? And why??

    • Susie4Liberty

      Well, Singer…. I suppose you’re already well gone and won’t be reading this… Regardless, going to write it: I’ve always believed We Americans have far more in common than our differences – and MUCH to LOSE…our Republic is at stake at this time, in my opinion. And so, our ‘talking’is a good thing…understanding one another. And yet, I do NOT believe that “AnyoneButO” is the primary consideration, if we were to elect someone who only ‘Rules’ with a different label on his “Mantra”. (In polls, Dr. Paul does VERY well against the current prez…)

      By the way, I also happen to believe that video of our “Humanitarian Mission” in Libya should be required viewing by all American citizens. (I actually would probably ‘feel’ better were I to cry more often…but seldom do. However, I wept when I watched the actual fol footage. Our drones may have ‘sanitized’ the bombings…for ppl in the USA and those ‘operating’ the drones – but not for those Libyan Citizens on the ground. If you could FIND a Libyan citizen left alive, wonder how they feel about what we’ve done to their families and fellow citizens and their beautiful, Sovereign Country? No threat to us…BUT they had an independent National Bank free from the clutces of the Globalists and oil and gold and WATER – and by Golly! We took it! And the Military-Industrial Complex loves it…AND THE GLOBALISTS SMILE 24 HRS/DAY.

  • Richard Riker

    You people have to be kidding. You have to be absolutely unattached to reality. Ron Paul is a Congressman who has had only one bill passed in 30 years. He obviously can’t do a good job as a Representative and people want him as our president? All Ron has are opinions that are so idealistic they are nothing more than opinions out of touch with reality.

    • former walmart person

      I still don’t understand how a President who causes gridlock and can’t get anything passed is a BAD THING since at least MORE DAMAGE can’t be done. Can you imagine the horror if President Obama was able to pass much more than he has already?

    • donthecanuck

      Richard,

      So, are we to understand that the number of bills passed is a measure of a man? Indeed, that type of logic is what got America to where it is now. The same logic that says the congress is not doing its job, because it is not passing Obama’s flawed bills.

      It is principal, integrity, honesty and compassion that one need look at when deciding for a leader. One who passes many bills is not necessarily a good one. Need I elaborate? I think not.

      People tend to forget that trying to pass bills that make sense in an area of fools is a difficult task at best. You forgot this as well. Try passing a bill that eliminates a group of lobbyists that have most of those voting on the bill on their payrolls in some manner. Get the idea?

      the fact here is that whatever RP voted against it in line with the only document that “used to” protect the people of America..namely, the Constitution. the bills he tried to pass were valid and true and the problem was that most of the other 534 were in the pockets of the corporations and thus the bills do not find support. Are we to understand that the man should give up on his principals to pass a bad bill instead?

      I hope you understand that this attitude is why the 534 can be bought and why only one man is unable to be bought.

      Debate that.

      cheers and good luck to America. You will need it if RP is not taken seriously.

    • Patriot Diva

      Yeah just what we need, more legislation to create yet more laws to limit our freedoms even more.

    • Sol of Texas

      Richard –

      There is so much legislation I wish had NOT passed. I don’t measure success by how many bills a politician has passed. I’d hold LBJ in great esteem if that were a good measurement. I consider the person’s integrity and principles.

      • Nadzieja Batki

        Your definition of integrity and principles may not be the same as a politician’s. The battleground is semantics.

    • DaveH

      Imagine that. Ron Paul wants to keep within the Constitutional Limits that all Politicians swear to obey, and he DOESN’T want to pass more Big Government Spending bills on the backs of the American People, and some blindered people like Richard think that’s a Negative.

    • mickey

      Umm the reality is those bills he voted against were unconstitutional. The reality is those same bills that passed are why we are in the shape we are in.

      I guess I would rather be known for the one good bill I passed than numerous bad bills I put signature to.

      I think if you’ve listened closely, most Congressmen don’t read the bills, just pass them. At least Paul can read them and does his best to protect all of us from the bad, unread bills.

    • OB1

      Ron Paul is ahead in many polls. That is why media has a blackout. Here is a simple one I really liked. This is going to be a battle of free information and grass root support (this is a CNN report!):

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jp5bfxpchAY&feature=email

      • DaveH

        It’s amazing that so many young people have broken free from the Propaganda. I blame it on the Internet. And that’s why the Politicians are working so hard to stifle it.

        • Susie4Liberty

          And I’ve had the opportunity to talk with many ‘young’ Paul supporters – and without exception, their knowledge of the Constitution and Bill of Rights has been laudable. Smiled…and asked one young man who meets with a group of supporters 1/mo, “So, WHY are you for him – because you believe he’ll legalize drugs?!” And he replied: “We’re for Dr. Paul because he is the ONLY one who offers us any hope whatsoever for a…future.”

          making it as difficult as possible. They do NOT want Dr. Paul! They want someone in there who can be BOUGHT… Business as Usual is what they want…continued Culture of CorruptionAnd a young man working in my home…an expert technician…went to his van to ‘get something’ for me. Gave me his dog-earred copy of a Pocket Constitution… (Closed the door behind me and realized WE are failing them…if we don’t keep up the good fight.) And CORPORATE ANYTHING is …

          • Susie4Liberty

            Sorry…my post got all mixed up in order…

  • s c

    Hope-and-changers have had over three years to take a hard look at what they ‘bought.’ While some of them still dare to claim that The Anointed Flimflammer LOVES the middle class and protects the middle class, the facts say otherwise.
    Hope-and-changers have had what little history they ever knew leached out of their pointy heads. Lenin used and abused his followers to set up a ruling elite in old Russia.
    Some refuse to admit that Comrade Obummer has done the same thing in America. It’s no coincidence that America has a ruling elite, but this ‘elite’ exists in both political “beds.” Based on what I see here, utopians have more to lose by seeing what they need to see (seeing what they want to see is so comfy).
    I have no idea what they will do when they are forced to admit that Comrade Obummer has literally BOUGHT his followers. Either way you look at it, you get what you pay for, BUT to do such a thing with other people’s money doesn’t make it an investment. It’s just another form of theft.
    Sadly, utopians don’t believe it’s possible for one of their icons to commit any crimes in America – ever. Ergo, utopianism is a contagious disease, and it is also a form of mental corruption.

    • Sirian

      Well said s c, they – the utopian fools – will never see beyond their fantasy world.

      • FreedomFighter

        JFK Speaks out Against the New World Order

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rKVt9EvqOpg&feature=related

        Resistance is not futile.

        Laus Deo
        Semper Fi

        • Patriot Diva

          And that’s why he was assasinated. I pray for Ron Paul’s safety!

          • DaveH

            There’s one thing Politicians fear more than any other, and that’s to make a martyr out of a person. Killing Ron Paul would be the most foolish thing they could ever do.

        • Lastmanstanding

          and that is why they killed him. he fired the cia guy Dulles (research what a bad man he was and who he was connected with), wanted to pull out of Vietnam by 1965 and wanted to eliminate the fed and have the US control its own finances…all of which were reversed before lbj (the pos) landed on the ground that very same day once JFK was pronounced dead.

          Bad for business when you depend on slavery and war for income and power.

          • Sirian

            LMS,
            “you depend on slavery and war for income and power.”, that has been the name of the game for a very long time yet the populace has been mislead, easily, that it as such. Again, it runs back a very, very long time. There are but two main things that they seek – power & control. It is most certainly becoming much more evident day by day.

        • Jim C.

          I thought the “New World Order” was instituted by G.H.W. Bush after the Berlin Wall was torn down – I remember hearing him first use the term. The phrase had nothing to do with one world government – Bush was merely describing what had already happened when the Wall collapsed. The entire world situation, or arrangement (“order”) had dramatically changed with the end of the Communist empire, which had kept a lid on many ethnic and religious movements, such as radical Islam. Bush was merely stating the obvious. The idea of a “New World Order”, as it’s used today, is a silly, nonsensical, delusional myth, which has nothing to do with reality. It’s depressing to realize how poorly informed and utterly confused many people are, as revealed by most of the posts to this article.

    • eddie47d

      There are Utopians all over the American map and several Conservative Utopians right here on this site. Not all Utopians come from the Liberal minds and many Conservatives bow down to the same Bankster Gods to make things all better for them.No matter how many times they have hoodwinked us in the past and they will do it again you keep skipping down that yellow brick road chasing their fools gold. That is why it is so hard to correct the misdeeds of Banksters because so many are addicted to their behavior. If they control the money we all want to be part of it no matter how they got their ill gotten gains. No matter how they have influenced politics and controlled the vote.

  • Tazio2013

    The underpinnings that fallaciously attempt to justify despotic regimes rely upon the perverted practice of controlling the public mindset in weak societies. The indisputable evidence that civilization is regressing at lightening speed is all around US. Governments are becoming irrelevant with the passage of illegitimate authority consolidating into the hands of oligarchic cabals and global tyrants. An objective study of the voluntary abandonment of individual sovereignty is worthy of an entire scholarly discipline. However, before confused citizens seek psychoanalysis on a couch of technocrat design, the basic principles of a classical education should be applied.

    Philosophical inquiry is meant to seek an understanding of the truth. Truth, when known, vindicates the dignity of the person and the value intrinsic within the human race. Therefore, it comes as a great letdown to face up to the horrendous savageness that society accepts as typical behavior. The Psychological techniques used to train people to accept tyranny as the normal course of conduct is practiced by every despotic regime.

    Jon Roland in an essay, Principles of Tyranny provides a valuable insight…

    http://batr.org/solitary/012212.html

    “The three aims of the tyrant are, one, the humiliation of his subjects; he knows that a mean-spirited man will not conspire against anybody; two, the creation of mistrust among them; for a tyrant is not to be overthrown until men begin to have confidence in one another — and this is the reason why tyrants are at war with the good; they are under the idea that their power is endangered by them, not only because they will not be ruled despotically, but also because they are too loyal to one another and to other men, and do not inform against one another or against other men — three, the tyrant desires that all his subjects shall be incapable of action, for no one attempts what is impossible and they will not attempt to overthrow a tyranny if they are powerless.” – Aristotle

    • cawmun cents

      Aristotle had the unfortunate tendency of rhetorical redundance in his explanitory theorem.Keep in mind that he was instructor to Iskander/Alexander.Whereas the Mongols definitely took more territory,Alexander(likely as a result of Aristotles influences on him)left much more cultural base and had way more discernable effect on the areas which he conquered.
      So you see that tyrannical leaders can be found all throughout history,some of them leading to great things in future generations.
      Hopefully though I do not see our current situation as rivaling these aforementioned ones,something great will come from it.
      Cheers!
      -CC.

      • Flashy

        Just a minor correction…the mongol Empire had control over much of E Europe for over 100 years. Bringing trade routes, educational systems, gvernment organization, new rules of warfare, and forced consolidation of much of Europe as they had to join forces to stop the invasion of the mongol armies.

        Alexander ruled for about 13 years, and his empire was of conquest and disintegrated almost immediately following his death.

        I doubt there can be much of a case as to the lasting influence of Alexander in any society or culture, including Macedonian.

        • cawmun cents

          Again your revisionist historical slip is showing.
          Mr.Flashman,are you aware that eastern Europe during the time of the mongol invasion was not even considered part of the known world?
          It had scarcely been explored by Marco Polo when his stories had intrigued the barbaric horsemen to head west.
          By contrast,the Persian empire,at that time the most powerful in the world,was easily conquered by Iskander.Not only did he leave his generals in charge of some of the most impressive governments of the times,but they eventually sent the aggregate knowledge of the ancient world to Alexandria,bringing all of that ancient knowledge to a central place.
          What part of western Asia,or to more of the point,eastern Europe,was considered at that time to be relevant to historical note?
          The Crusades were basically over by that time leaving the Muslim and Slavic worlds drained,culminating in easy domination by barbaric cavalry.Their coffers empty from continual religious war,they were vulnerable to invasion and easily conquered.
          The tactics and battles of Alexander are still studied to this day in military institutions globally.With the advent of machinery,the tactics of the mongols were left wanting.
          What part of those facts were missing when you opened the revisionary history books and skimmed through them?
          Were you aware that shaving the face became normal practice for men through Alexanders observations of how beards were grasped in battle,and men were forced to follow their heads or be separated from them?He ordered his men to shave and the enemy didnt have that advantage over him any longer.
          Men of his age(era)were protrayed as beardless,whereas before that,men always were portayed with beards,with the rare exeption of Egyptian royalty.
          If you had actually learned any history,you would know these things,but you were taught by marxists,and though you had dates and places,the content of knowledge was omitted.
          -Cheers!
          -CC.

        • Mark in LA

          Alexandria was the main center of learning in the western world long after Alexander.

  • Robert, TX

    Bingo, Bob! A vote for Ron Paul is the only way to show the Goldman Sachs, Morgan Stanleys, Pfizers, Mercks, and global healthcare management pigs that they do NOT own the U.S. government. As you correctly pointed out, they own both the dems and the repubs, as well as the MSM and the Roger Ailes puppets.

    • DaveH

      It truly amazes me how so many people focus on the Crony Capitalists, who indeed are bad people, but who would be Powerless without the Force of Government. It’s the Politicians, people! Without them, and their assumed right of Force, the Crony Capitalists would be of little threat to us.
      The first thing we as a people must understand is that the Profession of Politician is a natural attractant to Sociopaths. So we must scrutinize them with a fine-tooth comb. If we catch them telling lies, we MUST NOT forgive them. Lies are the first sign of Immoral People. And we must scrutinize their voting records. They provide a microscope into the REAL thoughts of the Politicians. Sure, anybody can change, but why take the chance?
      Also we need to do a lot of reading and thinking and throw off the shackles of the Propaganda that we’ve all been bound with.
      Take the Drug Wars, for instance. The Cure is worse than the Disease, but a large portion of the population has been so brainwashed that they can’t see that, even in light of the Failures of Alcohol Prohibition:
      http://mises.org/books/prohibition.pdf

      We let our Government Lie, Steal, and Kill, and then we wonder why things are such a mess. It’s us, people. WE are the Problem, but we can also be the Solution if we would just take the time to educate ourselves.

  • John Acord

    This article needs to be read by every American voter. If they understand why the country is failing, they can be persuaded to vote for Ron Paul. It is your duty to see that this type of information is on the diner table of every American home. I will do my small part. will you do yours?

    • Patriot Diva

      I posted it on my facebook page!

    • Susie4Liberty

      I will do MY part…

  • jerry

    Although Goldman Sachs sounds like a jewish owned company I believe that they are shills for islam. The great loss of wealth from the west has ended up in islamic sovereign banks and the great golden cities being built in islamic countries. The total focus is to bring down the west and bring it under sharia control.
    Using a tiny fraction of the stolen wealth they have bought and corrupted government at every level. Wonder why all the insane favorable judgements for muslims? Check on how judges are raking in millions from option tips by the blackrock companies. Dumb Americans. They are named after the black rock of Mecca.
    The so called obama health plan is a undercover way of collecting the JIZYA from America.

  • Jay

    Propaganda minister of the third Reich, Joseph Goebbels once stated: “If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, FOR THE TRUTH IS THE MORTAL ENEMY OF THE LIE, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.”

    Conversely, if we trumpet the truth unceasingly, it may be that eventually, PEOPLE WILL BEGIN TO HEAR IT!

    Keep at it, Mr. Livingston!

  • Bert Cundle Sr.

    It is dangerious, to have wisdom…
    The elegable Citizens, That Vote; are in the 20%… The voting balots in any language… the canadates that realy qualify for leadership… A real upriseing needs to happen! (But Won’t!) Fear of Banks, is still only a Castle in the game! The inforcement of historical ledgons, to the roles of Slave & Master, is the culpret! (CHURCH RULING STATE!)

  • Flashy

    So much for thinking the threads today would be one of unaniminity. No solutions, no reasoned thought. Nope…just the same wacked out wild crazy talk. Civil war, elections are rigged, assassination if a certain candidate wins.

    And when DaveH posts, he’ll write the same insane giobberish and give a link to Mises..which has less credibility than the National Enquirer.

    You guys have no solutions other than insianity and the destruction of this nation. The only one certainty is none of you are patriots nor loyal Americans. You only think you are (however illogical that thought is) …

    • Jay

      And the prize for; No solutions, no reasoned thought. Nope…just the same wacked out wild crazy talk, goes to:(Drum role please) Flashy! Yeaah Flashy!

    • Sirian

      Yep, the usual solution – LACK THEREOF – you offer up. And you wonder why the rest of us laugh at you?

      • Flashy

        LOL…read my post before this one.

        Jeesh…you guys are something else. The TP trilogy. Hate, fear, ignorance.

        • FreedomFighter
          • Flashy

            OK FF … you’re crazy

        • DaveH

          Flashdunce, do you really think your adolescent manipulative tactics work on anybody other than Liberal Zealots?

          • Flashy

            I have no idea. But I do know your continuous attack with insane gibberish and continuous posting of Mises links convinces people the Moderates are a better choice.

          • DaveH

            You know that, Troll, how?

        • OB1

          I hope so.

      • Flashy

        BTW…beause you need to have your hand held leading you somewhere..it was my addition to AV’s post at the beginning …

    • NC

      I agree this the most irrational bunch of people it has ever been my pleasure to witness. Conspiracies by the hundreds, “governments” with global headquarters,revolutions around the corners, 200 Jesuses vying for “second coming” dates and Mr Paul’s 13% ready to lead us home!!

      BUT AIN’T THEY FUN TO PLAY WITH?

      PS: Thank you South Carolina!! Romney vs. Obama is Romney plus 2. Gingrich Vs. Obama is Obama plus 8. Come on Newt!!

      • Flashy

        Ya gotta love it when the the “party of “family values”” give Newt TWO standing O’s for feigning ‘indignation’ and ‘pain” when asked about his second ex wife’s comments about the pain he caused to her and the family.

        Let’s see…he’s Catholic, has had as many wives as the remainder of the cadidiates have had combined…and the party of “family values” give him standing O’s for being indignant when asked about it.

        • cawmun cents

          Having values is a far better thing than lacking any of substance.
          When a particular viewpoint hypocritcally points its finger at another with no understanding of the nature of its shortcomings,there is bound to be contempt from both viewpoints.

          “He wears a mask,and his face grows to fit it.”-Shakespeare

          Intentions mean everything.
          When an individual sets out to masquerade as one of character and integrity,but falls woefully short,he might learn lessons from those who have already have been caught and publicly scrutinized for their offenses.But learning only comes from the ability to see both sides,and choose the logical conclusion as a result.
          The common mistake made by many is to think that the other side doesnt know much about them,because of idiosyncracies projected upon them by their predjudices.But having walked in their shoes for some time before we came to our senses,we can observe their mode of critical thinking and establish how we view their thoughts counteractively.
          Have you ever been a Christian Mr. Flashman?
          I was once such as you,a non-believing liberal finger pointer.
          Having walked where you now tread,I can clearly observe why you think as you do.Cant say that I understand it,because it doesnt meet the criteria for critical thinking.But I have observed it nonetheless,and found it lacking.
          One might patiently wonder why in your photographically framed moniker,that you do not look more deeply into the picture.But seeing things from a clouded perspective is largely due to ones inability to see from more than one direction.
          You see the portrait of yourself through the lens of what you feel is accuracy,but the abstact expressionism eludes you.You view this as distortion,but in reality it comes from the ability to see things in another light.One that cannot be observed in a photo.
          You profess moderation in your politcal view,but lack the wherewithal to see more than a degree or two from your own stance.Perched high atop the wall of separation you pontificate to the right,and offer condolences to the left.But when you fall,who will stitch you back together?Will it be your seemingly passionate close friends on the left,or will the right welcome you with open arms?
          Consider this well.
          Get back to me on this matter.
          Cheers!
          -CC.

          • Flashy

            CC..”Have you ever been a Christian Mr. Flashman?”

            CC, I can honestly state I have never been a member of any organized religious cult. In my line of work, i have to deal with people every day who have conflicts …most of which are caused due to lack of thought and weighing of the relative impact of action of different influences, cause and effect..both long and short term.

            Say you were a sniper. A 100 yard shot is relatively easy. Line up the sights, pull the trigger.

            Now lengthen that shot to 1000 yards. Not only do you have the obvious outside factors of wind and humidity to factor in, you have to also factor in the spin of the earth and the magnetic fields.

            A bullet traveling 1,000 yards would be deflected about three inches to the right. In addition, you’d have to aim higher or lower depending on the degree to which you were facing east or west. If you were firing due east, you’d have to aim six inches lower, since the earth rotates from west to east and your target would have dropped away from you slightly by the time the bullet arrived. If you were firing due west, you’d have to aim six inches higher.

            Nothing is simple. The world and every single event in it is never Black and White. Nothing is absolute. Everything is relative given the circumstances it appears. That will be the ultimate failure of the TP movement. They cannot fathom this. They rely on religion and on simplistic solutions which always present themselves as absolute.

          • DaveH

            Flashman,
            Do you really think anybody with a brain buys that you know the first thing about long range shots?
            Flashman says “Now lengthen that shot to 1000 yards. Not only do you have the obvious outside factors of wind and humidity to factor in, you have to also factor in the spin of the earth and the magnetic fields”.
            Magnetic fields? Most bullets are made of brass with a lead core. Neither is affected by magnetism. And even if they were it would depend entirely on which direction the shooter was shooting. So your statement “A bullet traveling 1,000 yards would be deflected about three inches to the right” is entirely BS.
            There are four primary environmental factors that will influence long range shooting – wind, altitude/barometric pressure, temperature, and humidity. Wind being the most important.
            And Flashman says “In addition, you’d have to aim higher or lower depending on the degree to which you were facing east or west. If you were firing due east, you’d have to aim six inches lower, since the earth rotates from west to east and your target would have dropped away from you slightly by the time the bullet arrived”.
            First of all we’re on this earth when we shoot, so we are rotating on the earth the same as our target is, the relative distance from the earth’s core to us or our target does not change. The target does not drop away as the earth rotates. The bullet will drop, but the amount of droppage depends entirely on what caliber we’re using and what cartridge type, and that drop is mostly due to Gravity. And since we’re rotating with the earth the relative speed of the bullet will be unchanged regardless of which direction we face.
            As usual, Flashman, you’re blowing smoke up our butts.

          • cawmun cents

            What is the first rule of Sniping Mr. Flashman?
            -CC.

          • DaveH

            What in the world makes somebody like Flashman tick? Is he so used to snowing his fellow Liberals with BS that he thinks he can get away with it here? Or is he just the kind of twisted individual that gets a kick out of messing with people? Either way, he’s making Liberals look bad.

      • DaveH

        NC, we prove your ‘facts’ to be nonsense, time after time.
        It’s safer for you to stick to personal attacks, isn’t it?

        • Flashy

          NC..they are false because DaveH claims they are false. haven’t you learned anything ???

          • DaveH

            Yes, Flashman, we’ve learned that you are indeed a Troll.

      • Jay

        NC: I agree this the most irrational bunch of people it has ever been my pleasure to witness.

        The fact that you take pleasure in observing irrational people suggests you may be psychologically disturbed. However, based on your postings, this revelation does not come as a surprise!

    • DaveH

      Flashman, the regulars on this board know that you have no credibility. Why do you bother?

      • NC

        DaveH, you can’t carry Flashy’s book bag! He owns you in every argument!What has your party ever contributed to the growth of this land to being the number one nation in the world?? The right wing has argued for years that Democrats are socialist who know nothing of running our free markest system and that electing one would ruin our nation. Would you like to offer proof of that? What other party has done a better job?? You got proof? We’re ready for it. Right here is where you do it!!

        • FreedomFighter

          We have plenty of proof your satanic Socialist/Communist system is a total failure for the people…example North Korea.

          American history provides example after example of how the American form of goverment provided prosperity for the most people in the least amount of time in the history of the world.

          You commies got Jack, and Jack left town.

          Laus Deo
          Semper Fi

          • Flashy

            FF..I know of no one who ever has put forth N korea as a model to copy. Though i’m not sure Mises woudn’t claim it to be…

            Try again…

        • Jay

          Is this Flashy, or is NC just a big brown-noser who admires Flashy? Is this NC, or is this Flashy using a different moniker, as i’m sure, he cannot find anyone who will agree with him, except, of course, trough the use of multiple monikers? Either way, and whoever you are, the fact that DaveH continuously exposes your subversive tactics, is obviously beginning to take its toll on you! And yet, you persist…

        • Nadzieja Batki

          So why aren’t you happy and satisfied with the socialist democrats that you are part of? If things in your world are as good as you believe, they can stand by themselves and do not need defending. Apparently things are not so good.

        • DaveH

          I can, and do, beat you and Flashman, NC, in every logical debate you dare to engage in. The fact that you aren’t aware of that is solely a tribute to your lack of intelligence.
          There is one mental pursuit that you and Flashman beat me in, NC, and that’s Fabricating Facts. I wouldn’t even try to beat you in a Fact Fabricating contest.

          • DaveH

            NC said “you can’t carry Flashy’s book bag!”.
            Yep, I have to hand it to you, NC. That was quite the insult because anybody but a quadriplegic could carry Flashman’s book bag since it’s empty — like your head.

          • Flashy

            DaveH..and i sincerely mean this. Logic is a subject you never took in school. That much is glaringly obvious. It’s not an insult…just an obvious fact.

          • DaveH

            No, it’s an insult, Flashman, but then as I’ve said many times, that’s all you have. Without your adolescent personal attacks, you’re just an empty useless Liberal shell.

        • DaveH

          And if you weren’t so damned ignorant, NC, you’d know by now that I say both major parties have Built Government to it’s current Leviathan state.
          As far as Socialism goes, we’ve seen plenty of that right now in the Obama administration with the GM takeover, and attempted takeovers of the banks, and takeover of our Health Care choices. But, as I’ve said many times, the Republicans are complicit in the Socialistic leanings of our Government.

        • OB1

          Please attemp to deny Barak Obama’s affiliation to know Marxist, socialist and communist friends, supporters, and czars (odd they are called czars, eh?. Please flash us another undocumented foolish comment.

          The Communist Holocaust
          Communist Holocaust

          Communist Holocaust: 100+ million dead, hundreds of millions more tortured, imprisoned, and enslaved

          Compiled by Chris Banescu (contributors: Scott Manning, Victims of Communism Memorial Foundation)

          In October 1917, the Bolshevik Revolution gave birth to the deadliest ideology in human history – Communism. In less than 100 years, Communism has claimed more than 100 million lives. Today, it continues to enslave one-fifth of the world’s people.

          A free people cannot afford to forget the evils of Communism. We cannot allow the atrocities of Lenin, Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, Ho Chi Minh, and Castro to fade into the background of history. We must not forget the trail of blood and tears this utopian deception has left behind.

          It is a great moral failing that so many do not know the extent of Communism’s atrocities. While the horrors of Nazism are well known, who knows that the Soviet Union murdered 20 million people? Who knows that China’s dictators have slaughtered as many as 60 million? Who knows that the Communist holocaust has exacted a death toll surpassing that of all of the wars of the 20th century combined? (Victims of Communism Memorial Foundation)

          The following estimates represent citizens killed or starved to death by their own Communist governments since 1918. These numbers do not include war dead. The governments are sorted by body count (highest to lowest). All numbers are mid-estimates.

          A detailed bibliography is listed at the end of this page. While this list is as complete as I have been able to determine, it is evolving. Some numbers are incomplete and there are still five Communist countries that have the potential to kill more of their citizens. (Scott Manning)

          Communist Holocaust Body Count: 149,469,610

          http://www.orthodoxytoday.org/blog/2010/03/the-communist-holocaust/

      • Nadzieja Batki

        He may not earn his pay for the day if he doesn’t post and misdirect.

  • Bett

    We are on the titanic, all the other candidates want to stay on it and sink us. Paul in 2002 warned congress and ALL true in attached clip. Media is bought so not going to show truth. If everyone who recognizes the truth speaks out and up to everyone they know is our only chance. This is our last President and even Jesus said to be watching for these signs and time is running out. Paul is like Noah (another boat comparison). He said it is going to rain, get in the boat!
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ifJG_oFFDK0

  • Capitalist at Birth

    Ron Paul does not have a chance in Hell of winning the Republican nomination nor the general election. Aren’t you getting tired of beating this dead horse, Bob? Newt Gingrich is the best chance we have of saving the Republic. I won’t waste any more time here today, reading any of the zombie articles and posted comments.

    • DaveH

      Newt Gingrich wouldn’t SAVE us from anything except Smaller Government, Crony Capitalist.

    • Jay

      The only thing noecon-Newt will save, will be his place at the TROUGH!

    • Karolyn

      Capitalist – It’s weird how you visit, complain and tell eveyone you’re leaving jus about every day. Why bother telling us?

      • DaveH

        Good one, Karolyn.

    • Mark in LA

      So “winning” is so important that we must eat any slop that the RNC dishes out. How about we try changing the RNC by making it chose someone the people would actually want?

  • Tom W.

    Are we ever really given a choice Bob?! Hasn’t it always been the illusion of choice?

    • Sirian

      Exactly Tom, they simply can’t seem to see that. Either party has its own “predetermined” choice that they push into office no matter what it takes.

    • eddie47d

      Neither Newt or Romney stand on their convictions and change colors on most issues and when it’s convenient. Ron Paul is true to his beliefs and steers a steady ship.

    • DaveH

      That is only the case, Tom, because we keep buying into the ‘lesser of two evils’ paradigm. The only way to change that is to quit voting for evil — lesser or not.

  • Donald

    Sad, but True.

  • Robert

    The question that needs to be answered is who is behind/controlling the mega bankers. These are upper middle management people and do as they are told to achieve an agenda set by top management. Suggest you start looking at the true controllers of the world. The presidential candidates for years have been supported by the bankers but not picked by them.

    • FreedomFighter

      Prep up Rob:

      The Future of Humanity

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fKCHWu5eECs&feature=uploademail

      Laus Deo
      Semper Fi

      • eddie47d

        This may be worth watching for some but Alex Jones also juggles the data in the Inforwars.He is his own Pied Piper and controller too.

        • FreedomFighter

          In America you can still be your own man.

          As others lose there testicles to fear, some grow a set. I have found that Liberals have very small, almost dwarf like testicles.

          Laus Deo
          Semper Fi

          • Angel Wannabe

            Freedom fighter__if Liberals don’t have testicles of their own, they’ll steal someone else’s! :)

  • Henry Ledbetter

    Let us pray that ALL which is done in darkness will be brought to the light. “Light has come into the world but some men love darkness rather than light because their deeds are evil.” We found ourselves traveling in the storms all around last night and were able to make it safely thru but according to the news this morning many did not. Secure In Christ and I pray all that read this will be also, as once again, I am hearing of death and destruction all around…

    • cawmun cents

      The words of Paul of Tarsus are both eloquently and subtly spoken.
      His wisdom,though not conventional,rivals and goes beyond Aristotle.
      The difference being the source.
      Too many ignore this type of wisdom,for the lack they see in it.
      The storm truly does blot out the light.
      -CC.

    • Angel Wannabe

      cc and Henry, the blood of the lamb kept the Hebrews safe, as the Plague Passed Over them.

      • John

        The question really is, what else was mixed into this blood….

  • don

    We consistently miss the point – it’s not a game about “winning” – it’s survival! We can change legislatures & they can make life so miserable for corruption that it will disappear!

    We need tough & to the point legislators – in the senate and house – people who will prosecute & not be “nice & respectful” to the scum bags who are looting this country. It must start with nailing the cancer in our justice system – beginniong with Holder. That in turn begins with calling him what he is – a two bit tyrant out to destroy free elections – open failure to enforce Constitution & law – Cite him for contempt & demand prosecution instead of apologizing & griping

    • FreedomFighter

      NEW WORLD ORDER FEMA COFFINS

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i19_KLzrMoE&feature=related

      They are planning on your death, will you go like the jews did, or will you resist, its your choice.

      Laus Deo
      Semper Fi

      • Sirian

        Global population reduced to 500 million I believe is the number their seeking isn’t it FF? I may be off a bit but still, that is what they want – 500 million is much easier to conntrol than 6.5 billion.

        • FreedomFighter

          I didnt put up the stone wanting 500million population, bet they did. So its not me wanting this.

          Laus Deo
          Semper fi

      • Sirian

        FF,
        Grab a copy of “Secret Weapon” by Kevin Freeman if you haven’t already. It will give you some info concerning the means that the Islamic radicals plus others, have been, and continue to use to bring down the West’s financial foundations.

      • eddie47d

        Only a paranoid fool would build up those coffin liners as a deliberate pretense for nuclear war and the destruction of the USA. Like the video did say at the end this country needs to be prepared for any type of disaster (unlike Indonesia). Bulldozing bodies into big trenches is hardly a way to dispose of citizens who have been killed by a massive disease, a gas attack or even a nuke strike. There is nothing sinister about this open field in Madison Ga. just outside Robbins Air Force Base. If someone can film these liners and even walk around them and ask questions then it’s not very secretive. The government stockpiles a lot of goods including trailers,food,oil and I suppose I could say nuclear weapons too. Be concerned but not fearful.

        • FreedomFighter

          They are planning on you dieing, what part of “plan” dont you understand.

          Laus Deo
          Semper Fi

        • Karolyn

          Totally agree, eddie. I believe we have to worry more about internet terrorism than anything else these days. I recently heard about a rise in Arab cyber-terrorism against Israel by Arab hackers. Much easier and less bloody than anything else.

          • FreedomFighter

            47. The Shock of a New Paradigm

            http://dont-tread-on.me/?p=12669

            Denial will not work. Thanks SteveQ

            Laus Deo
            Semper Fi

          • Jay

            Karolyn, it’s impossible to know with certainty, who the hackers are. I suspect, Mossad!

  • nmontoya

    ONE WORLD GOVERMENT IS ON THE HORIZON…WHY SO ALARM? JUST READ THE BIBLE.BUT WERE TOLD NOT TO FEAR…GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL!!!

    • Bert Cundle Sr.

      LOL… God in charge… God as Government!

      • FreedomFighter

        I have read the book, I know how all this ends, it does not end well for these Lucys and tares.

        Have faith, we are not alone

        Laus Deo
        Semper Fi

        • Lastmanstanding

          Amen…Rev.19, 11-21…

        • Angel Wannabe

          FF, Yep prepare and don’t despair!

        • John

          I have read the book and it tells me that the alien astronauts will come back and this time they will not only destroy part of humanity, but every one else that has not evolved to a certain standard….. Translation of the bible to be considered with modern knowledge of technology, gen-research, knowledge of physics and reason.

      • Bert Cundle Sr.

        NOT FUNNY… Government as God!

    • Tazio2013

      @nmontoya

      If indeed “GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL!!!”, I wish that he/she/it or URATIC (ultimate reality/absolute truth/infinite consciousness) would start to manifest meaningful “CONTROL” before it’s too late and the crusading christian zionist Republikrats have s**t in our collective mess kits.

      Sapere aude
      Semper fi!

      • Karolyn

        It’s all in our hands, because we are a part of the whole called God. If each person used his energy for peace and goodness, there would be no problems. Unfortunately, we have to be happy with a minority; however, Good has more power than Bad. Read Dr. David Hawkins’ “Power vs. Force.”

      • Jay

        @Tazio2013,

        Have ever heard the expression: “Give them enough rope, and they will hang themselves with it?” Patience!

    • Flashy

      Just a question which i am curious to find out the viewpoints. Why is a one world govenment necessarily a bad thing ?

      • DaveH

        One size does not fit all, and never will. Every individual on this earth has his own needs, desires, abilities, risk tolerance, and personal drive. And every group has their own cultural inclinations.
        No Central Government can make acceptable choices for those myriad individuals and groups.
        Anybody who thinks they can make the correct decisions for all is just lying to gain Power.
        Lying? Hmmmm, who do we know here that does that, Flashman?

      • Jay

        Flashy: Why is a one world govenment necessarily a bad thing ?

        The phrase, “One world Government” is misleading at best. What is really implied, by the proponents who are feverishly working to bring it into focus, and who consistently mantra the phrase is; Establishing a centralized petro-chemical military dictatorship controlled through the artificial economic will of private banks and other trans-national corporate interests.

  • jorge

    There are some good posts here! However, I fee sad for those who will deny the truth of this article and that, I agree, the only and last hope for this country, at least in any foreseeable future, is Ron Paul. Americans have been brainwashed by the media, to accept this ruling class, for it is such, since we have a large group of people, the typical American, the middle class, who do all the work ,and then you have a very small “elite” who tell us what to do and spend our money (take away from us our labor). It’s a rude awakening, dear citizen, but the facts are there with just a precursory look! No need to do any research! Here is an example of the brainwashing, the level at which we have been convinced of “unreality”! I ask many people to vote for a candidate who would work towards and eliminate, federal taxes. But inevitably, I am told that taxes “must” exit for the government to function. I point out that no direct taxes existed 100 years ago, and we got along fine. Then I ask them if they would pay taxes if they did not have to, and of course, they say no. I man who would? Sounds like brainwashing to me as most citizens have two opposing views yet they will hold both simultaneously and consider it a rational thought.
    SO why don’t they vote for a candidate who will allow them to not pay taxes? They just can’t do that! Are we not “the people” and can we not vote ourselves a “raise” if we want to? Why we are so concerned about the politician’s “feelings” and thus we refuse to look after OUR best interests when voting for a candidate? The politicians certainly don’t care about OUR feelings nor our freedoms nor about our labor, do they? So why are people so worried about the treasonous politician’s feelings? When you finally realize that you have lost your freedoms, as you gradually allowed the politicians to erode them from you, it will be too late to act, and we would have betrayed our founding fathers, and all those others over the years, who have shed their blood to gain our freedom, those freedoms which we so callously threw away, because it had not cost us anything, but you will find yourself paying dearly, when those freedoms are vanquished

    • Sunshine49

      I agree with what you are saying. I just sent this video by Newsmax to my friends and family about the meltdown of main street: http://w3.newsmax.com/a/meltdown/video49.cfm?s=al&promo_code=DFAC-1

      It’s an ad by a financial group but the statistics in it are enough to make you sick. Exactly the stuff that Ron Paul is fighting against like taxes and the Federal Reserve.

      None of the other politicians will “change” any of this. Of course they will throw us a couple of bones to make us think they are “attempting” to change things — but as usual they won’t change anything.

      Thanks for your interesting comments.

  • sj

    Lets connect the dots . daily chemtrail ops over recent years
    . recent looting of our financial system
    . Fema “residential centers” nation wide
    . millions of coffin liners owned by CDC
    . train loads of guillotins – look it up
    is anyone else detecting a pattern here ?

    Another false flag coming soon. Last call to wake up America -
    Ron Paul 2012

    • Susie4Liberty

      Not to worry… Move on, Folks; nothing to see here.

      Well, reminds me of the old internet ‘joke’…with the guy praying daily for God to let him win the Lotto. And one day, the Heavens open, and THE VOICE booms down… “Hey, Fella. Do me a favor. BUY A TICKET.”

      I’m one of ‘those’ who believe that God, we we know Him, expects us to help carry the load…

    • Susie4Liberty

      Not to worry… Move on, Folks; nothing to see here.

      Well, reminds me of the old internet ‘joke’…with the guy praying daily for God to let him win the Lotto. And one day, the Heavens open, and THE VOICE booms down… “Hey, Fella. Do me a favor. BUY A TICKET.”

      I’m one of ‘those’ who believe that God, we we know Him, expects us to help carry the load…

    • John

      I just have to invest in the manufacturing of tin foil, it looks like it will be a very lucrative business in the years to come.

  • alexa

    There is nothing stopping the states from taking back their constitutional duties, except they are begging for money from the Fed like everyone else at the trough.

    We can also sit here and do nothing but complain and it won’t change either.

    Even if Ron Paul were to be elected, there are 536 others that he needs to work with. So we need another 536 Ron Paul’s.

    • Sirian

      True alexa, the president, RP or otherwise, can’t do anything without both houses of Congress running in agreement with what the president may propose. The wagon can’t go anywhere if it doesn’t have all it’s wheels.

    • Sol of Texas

      Alexa –

      It’s not necessary to have 536. Just 60 in the Senate, 292 (voting seats)in the House, and 5 on the Supreme Court, so 357 in total. I can tolerate dissent but I fear group think.

      • Sirian

        Constitutional “group think” wouldn’t be all that bad would it SofT? Just saying. . .

    • DaveH

      We have to start somewhere, Alexa.
      Ron Paul is an excellent start.

      • Karolyn

        Hey, Dave, I don’t know if you’ll see this, but I just had to tell you that I found out today that my American Government instructor is an Independent Libertarian (in his own words). So much for everybody saying that college teachers are all liberals!

        • DaveH

          I haven’t said that (all teachers are liberals). Many of my fellow Libertarians are college professors.
          But that’s cool, Karolyn, I’m glad to hear it.

  • Sabulaman

    Vote out all incumbents. Don’t allow anyone to become comfortable in Washington. Create our own term limits. Talk to your church members and neighbors. Remember the energy back when the Tea Parties were being formed everywhere? Where is it now?

    • meteorlady

      I have three very good representatives and would hate to see them go, so no, I’m not voting them out. I do believe you are correct in that most of the Democrats and a lot of the Republicans have sold out and need to be sought out and lose their jobs.

  • Deerinwater

    Well? the only thing new here is our second opportunity to install Ron Paul.

    While it’s yet to be clear just how much he could actually change things. I don’t believe he would enjoy anymore support or cooperation then Obama has experienced in the House & Senate.

    I don’t question Ron Paul’s integrity but maybe some of his methods to get when he wishes the nation to go. The devil hides in the details with such matters. I remember Ronnie having large plans too, but the methods , the cost and who was to pay was never clear ~ until much later.

    There hasn’t been many details, just destinations from any of them, Ron Paul included.

    Maybe that will follow along with Mitts tax returns? Has Mitt painted himself into a corner? I got a feeling the CPA’s, attorney’s and spin doctors in Romney’s corner are hard at work today. I would not be surprised if he’s filed many extensions and hasn’t paid a nickle, never thinking that he’d actually get this far. Clearly , he does not need a job.

    • Wendell

      A better name for you would be a Deerinconfusion. I have read many post by you here and none has made any sense at all.

      • Deerinwater

        Well ,? hmm ~ a self reflection no doubt. What I offered wasn’t that complicated.

        Little has changed , including people like yourself. The flavor of the day is not left to chance. and RP will have his work cut out for him if he is elected. King is not the position up for grabs.

        Just how confusing can such a statement be to someone as bright as you?

    • meteorlady

      I’m not sure what you point is but I do think that Dr. Paul will win over the people if elected. I think he will take his case to the people. I believe he has a very good understanding of liberty, allowing business to function fully and create jobs, and that he understand government very very well.

      • Deerinwater

        I believe that he does too, I also believe that he can count.

  • dg

    Sad state of affairs. Ron Paul is the least electable of the candidates and, if elected, would be a foreign affairs disaster. We have no viable alternative at this time. Gingrich has trust issues, Santorum is a dud, and Romney & Obama are controlled by the moneyed elite. If it’s Romney vs. Obama, we have a choice of being manipulated by the Boston or Chicago political machines. Which group of gangsters shall we choose then?

    • Sol of Texas

      Paul’s not naive nor is he an isolationist. I am willing to take my chances on his foreign policy. Think about what we have now.

    • DaveH

      Everything Ron Paul stands for is a well-thought-out position.
      War brings Peace is an Oxymoron. Where is the Peace? We’ve got troops stationed around the world, but we don’t have Peace.
      And we won’t have Peace until Government quits minding everybody else’s business, both here and abroad.

    • meteorlady

      So what you believe is that we have made all the right foreign policy choices since 1939? If that is true, why aren’t we better off in the world? Put it another way, if you state is invaded by an armed force from a neighboring state, and they place guards and checkpoints on all the main roads, you are required to carry state identification, and guns are illegal what will you do?

      I believe I would feel resentment that my SOVEREIGN country has been invaded.

      Maybe it’s time to show a little different face to the world and let sovereign nations work out their own problems without of intervention to save corporate and banking interests doing business in those countries. Why should our young men and women be deployed to protect a corrupt government? How many leaders have we backed that have fallen because of corruption? The list is long indeed.

  • Henry Ledbetter

    Noah preached for 120 years but only eight human souls boarded the ark before God shut the door. We learned at church last night that the ark would have been big enough for a multitude of people’ along with baby animals.

    • Angel Wannabe

      Henry, The people aren’t anymore wise today than they were in the time of Noah. I’ve simply found, those that are going to wake up will, those that refuse, will be the ones who suffer the consequences. Its STILL the same old adage, we can lead a horse to water but can’t make them drink.

  • Dagger

    There is no way the Banksters(Gangsters) are going to allow Ron Paul to be elected President. They have too much at stake to allow anyone who would be a real threat to them to get elected. Should it look like he might be elected ,he will most likely have a convenient accident and be killed. America is doomed !!!

    • John

      Contrary to most believes the sky is not falling… as long as there are individuals that can see the truth… there is a chance to make a difference.

  • Tazio2013

    When will people address the metaphysical macrocosm of political power? Machiavelli and Nietzsche seem to be the operative sages for the insane world that is imploding more each day. The internationalist interdependency of foreign policy and corporatist commerce benefits from the demise of God, because the beneficiaries are the same elites that have ruled the planet for the ages. The democratic movements that seek to purge the cabals, diminish the economic cartels and break up the banksters institutions understand the evil character of this concentration of power. However, many misguided activists use sophistry when directing their outrage into attempts to be part of a corrupt body politic.

    The 99% vs. the 1% misses the mark because the philosophy that underpins the redistribution of the riches cry violates the principles of actual wealth creation. Mob rule is transient; oligarchy governance is the norm, while representative government is rare. The reason that government fails to represent the democratic will of the people is that it is inherently an evil institution. Democratic thought fails because it so many people believe that government is tamable and is able to achieve good outcomes.

    As long as the human race populates the planet, clashes with competing factions and conflicts will be the net result. Utopian dreams always grind down to practical circumstance, because our mutual nature is usually the only factor that we all share. Universal voting to achieve political consciousness might be achievable in local jurisdictions, but is ridiculous when implemented on national levels.

    Ending ineffective and inept spending financed by debt is the proper conclusion of rational thought. Woefully, we live in a democratic ethos of idiots. The existential advocacy that existence precedes essence may apply to the human context of possibilities and achievements, but the Hume viewpoint that essence precedes existence pertains to governments. While being human institutions, the state and more to the point, the iniquitous banking syndicates are systemic evil. The righteous outrage of the people needs to be directed at the abolishment of the debt created money. People will never be equal in means or talent, but a new financial system can rid the world of the curse of central banking interest extortion.

    http://batr.org/solitary/120411.html

    In seeking to avoid evil, [humanity] is responsible for bringing more evil into the world than organisms could ever do merely by exercising their digestive tracts. It is [our] ingenuity, rather than [our] animal nature, that has given [our] fellow creatures such a bitter earthly fate.
    - Ernest Becker

    • Sol of Texas

      Tazio –

      Machiavelli is misunderstood. Ponder this quote from Book I of the Discourses on Livy: [on the law's and institutions of a corrupt republic]

      “… in an exceedingly corrupt state, the difficulty will clearly be intensified since there will be found neither laws nor institutions which will suffice to check widespread corruption. Because, just as laws are required for the maintenance of good customs, so there is a need of good customs if laws are to be observed. Furthermore, institutions and laws made in the early days of a republic when men were good, no longer serve their purpose when men have become bad. And, if by any chance the laws of the state are changed, there will never or rarely be a change in the institutions. The result is that the new laws are ineffectual, because the institutions, which remain constant, corrupt them.”

      Ergo ego sum superbe loquor

      • Tazio2013

        @Sol of Texas

        Thanks for your knowledgeable reply and in return here is an interview that you may find worth reading.

        Gerald Celente on Trend Forecasting and the Crisis of Western Civilization

        http://www.thedailybell.com/3526/Staff-Report-Celente-Interview

        Daily Bell: Do you think Ron Paul can win?

        Gerald Celente: It would be very difficult, particularly with the media. When you read the words – and this is not my language; this is the language of the so-called paper of record, the New York Times. They call what he says, in their editorials, “Claptrap Ideas”! Claptrap? Who are you? Don’t talk to me like that! Because I believe in his ideas, they’re claptrap, and I don’t believe in your crap? When you hear an arrogant jerk like Newt Gingrich saying that no decent American would support Ron Paul’s foreign policies – come over to me, fat boy, and call me an indecent American. Say that to my face – let me show you how tough you are. And then we have a guy running The Manchester Union, Joe McQuaid. He said the only people that support Ron Paul are the lunatic fringe. Hey, McQuaid, don’t call me lunatic fringe; I don’t believe in your crap. Can you handle that? This takes us back to the beginning of our conversation about people believing in their political religions and then calling anyone that doesn’t believe in their religion a name.

        Daily Bell: Is the mainstream media controlled? By whom?

        Gerald Celente: By the corporations. I mean, who owns ABC? Who owns NBC? Who owns CBS, CNN and FOX? Again, the merger of state and corporate powers is called fascism. I’ve been on every show virtually in the mainstream media, and if you go on my trends and the news feature, I announced that I am not going on anymore. I turned down interview requests for the new year. I don’t like hanging out with these people. I don’t believe in who they are and I don’t want to give support to what they are doing so I don’t go on them. So it goes back to your question about courage, I don’t want to lie to myself. Why am I going to do it – to make money? It’s not worth it for me. If they want to come to me and interview me in my place, we can begin a conversation.

        RE: Ergo ego sum superbe loquor

        I couldn’t find the English translation on Google; perhaps you could provide it?

  • http://Personalliberty Tony

    To Everyone:
    As stated upteen times, Obama is going to get re-elected by a landslide. It’s sad but true. When you have clowns such as Newt Gangrene, the older Richie Rich, or the stale mafia Don as choices, it’s obvious who’s going to win. I’m beginning to think the Obama admins. plus the GOP establishment brokered a deal for Obama to be re-elected. Then, the GOP will get the Keystone pipeline deal next year. That’s just my paranoid hunch. Thanks!!

  • Al Hill

    Mr. Livingston,
    I’ve been waiting for someone to bring out the big bank purchase of presidential candidates that you’ve discussed in your essay. As John Accord says, “This article needs to be read by every American voter.” It won’t be but I would like to make a copy of it to send to some friends and relatives.
    I would not claim it as mine and would put your name on as author.

    Let me know if that’s OK. I would appreciate it.

    • Sol of Texas

      Al –

      Good for you!

    • http://www.boblivingstonletter.com/ Bob Livingston

      Dear Al Hill,

      Feel free to share it.

      Best wishes,
      Bob

  • Angel Wannabe

    The resident Liberals on here must feel they’re intellectual BS is making a difference,they just keep coming back depositing they’re crap. I hate to tell them they’re wasting they’re time.__
    They do have a positive side though, the Liberal point of view is a way, for us to hand out some links to them, so they can takem’ back to the Liberal think tanks, so they can come up with another argument against Conservatives, sort of job security, me thinks!__All I can say is, “Paid Trolls” must make damn good money, to do it day after day and not get anywhere, except with a “newbie”!
    I get a real kick out reading the Liberal comments about how, our nominees on either side aren’t pre~destined by the TPTB, and how they think our votes still count…Yeah well_ the reality of it is, The ones who counts the votes decides the winner.

    One comment I saw is that we Conservatives are calling for a Civil War?_ReallY..No, but we are prepared if something should happen. Close to 10 million guns were sold 2011.

    • meteorlady

      Our guns are useless against government forces. I own then for enjoyment (skeet shooting and target practice) and to keep the looters away from my property if the system collapses.

      The only way to stop the government is to stop feeding it. That means strike and no tax dollars. You all talk a good talk, but your solutions are pitiful in the long run. We need to stop the engine of government for enough time that they get the message an dump their handlers and puppet-masters and start representing us again.

      • Angel Wannabe

        Agreed Meterorlady, but with Fed running that printing press 24/7, do you really think withholding our tax dollars really mean ANYTHING, other than they won’t have our slave dollars to skim?,(for it to do anything we’d ALL have to hold out)..besides if they don’t get money by stealing it from us, they’ll just print more of it to infinite. The dollar ain’t worth the paper its printed on so as it is.

  • Jo

    News Flash:
    During a discussion on Fox News last week they indicated that Ron Paul advised he is 76 years old. That he does not wish to be president but to be able to have some say in what happens in the next 4 years should the Republican candidate win.
    Yes, I also found this unusual.

    • DaveH

      Whether Ron wins the election or not, he is indeed a powerful force in waking up the American People to the reality that our Freedom has been taken by Big Government.

    • OB1

      Newt is only 5 years younger than Dr. Paul and Romney is 65. Ron Paul bikes 20 miles a day; I doubt the others could even attempt that. But it is Paul’s consistent voting record, written statements on his website, ethics, morals, etc., that they cannot begin to compete with, including Mr. Obama. Ron Paul is the only veteran of all the candidates. Most national polls show Ron Paul very close or equal to Obama in a presidential match up. Check it out yourself. I posted one CNN poll above.

  • Sj

    Only one third of the population actually fought in our first revolution

    • John

      The revolution was only won because for all practical purposes, the weapons on both sides where identical and the English had a very long supply chain, whereas the revolutionaries had the support of the people. This would be not so today should there be ambitions for a revolution. The majority of the people have too much to lose, are too addicted to their worldly possessions to give it up. Our fore fathers where real, down to earth god faring people that put the well being of this country before their personal possessions ,that is not so anymore. Most people today are patriots on paper and by talk only. The internet is a very willing media, and everyone can be a patriot, big, strong, and brave….and in reality hi / she is an overweight lazy bum sitting in mommas kitchen trolling the internet. When you have deer rifles and handguns against precession guided bombs, drones and cruise missiles the chances of success are slim. And if you even for one second believe that the government would not use those weapons against an uprising you are delusional and have not learned one thing from history. And if you believe like so many that the armed forces will join the uprising then again it is my believe you are delusional… no doubt, some will but the majority will not. So in the end, the result will be that the government will hunt down those they will deem domestic terrorist and will use the event as an excuse to take away the little freedom people have left

  • RATIONAL 101

    If you listen to the few seconds Mr. Paul actually gets to speak or is interviewed you will hear him say ‘I am here to educate’. He is more powerful not getting elected but instead, enlightening us so we become aware of the manipulation.
    When Mr. Paul speaks of ‘no more war’ and ‘close our bases overseas, bring our troops home’ we get a glimps of the way our life in this country/world should be.
    I actually think this country need another 4 years of Obama to wake up, we are starting to but it takes a long time, and things need to get pretty bad, for the masses to realize they must work together to create change…….

    • DaveH

      4 more years of Obama would surely help to wake people up, but by then it might be too late (if it isn’t already) to do anything about it.

    • meteorlady

      4 more years of Obama and there will be no country to wake up to. There will be nothing left of the middle class and the elite bankers and Wall Street people will have stolen all our money with the help of the government.

  • Steve Edwards

    The only candidates running in the VA primary in March are Mitt and Ron Paul. Let’s hope Ron wins here. If you like Newt, this will prevent Mitt from getting the VA delegates and Ron will have these delegates at the Convention. A win for Ron and a win for Newt.

    • denniso

      Ron Paul is too old to even be running,and on top of that he can’t even win the nomination,let alone the presidency.

      Gingrich v Obama…Obama by 8 pts. Suck it up rightwingers!

      • meteorlady

        Why do you keep saying that? He’s more viable than all the others. He’s not too old. He would probably only serve one term and then go home to enjoy what he has put in place.

        But hey- if you want to vote for banking elites and puppets, have at it.

      • meteorlady

        If Obama wins again – them get ready for double digit inflation, a sadly devalued dollar, more job losses, and high interest rates. Plus you will see a bigger recession than you are already seeing.

        But hey – you lefties can handle that right? You handled it when Clinton collapsed the housing market and crashed wall street through Fair Housing, so you can probably stand much much more.

        Me? I plan on going on strike, closing the doors of my business and gettin’ out of Dodge.. Who will pay for your programs them?

        • John

          The feds printing press…..and it will still take it from you because every second you own US dollars they take away from the value.

      • Debbie

        Ron Paul will have difficulty getting the nomination, first because the Republican establishment doesn’t want him, because they want to continue the downhill slide of the status quo. Secondly, he doesn’t have financial support from Goldman Sachs et.al. like Romney and Obama do, but rather relies largely on small donations from everyday middle-class, working people.

        As for his age, that is relative. There are good and bad, smart and dumb people of all ages. People used to say that with age comes wisdom. I still believe that.

      • Nadzieja Batki

        We have not had the election as yet. Getting ahead of yourself.

      • Jay

        The only thing that’s getting old, denniso, are your posts!

  • Sunshine49

    If people still don’t get it, I doubt they ever will. I can hardly stand to watch TV anymore because they keep spreading lies about Ron
    Paul and his “nutty” foreign policy. Why didn’t they say that about
    Clinton when he was decimating our military and how about the billions Obama is going to “cut” from the defense budget?

    As far as Medicare is concerned, Obama is cutting $500 BILLION
    from it to fund his Obamacare.

    I listen to these other candidates and they sound like echoes of the
    same thing Ron Paul has been saying for years. The only difference
    is it’s great when they say it, but when Ron Paul says it they call him some kind of nut case!

    America really has gone to hell!

    • Debbie

      It’s amazing, isn’t it. When the media aren’t ignoring Paul, they are misquoting him or calling him an unelectable nutcase. When they finally figure out that he makes sense, the other candidates start copying his ideas and claiming them as their own. Then those same ideas suddenly become not nutty.

      Really, the modern day Tea Party movement was started by Ron Paul supporters. Does anyone remember all those teabags and postcards mailed to Washington in April, 2009, with the message Taxed Enough Already? When the movement started getting media attention, it was likewise taken over by the neocons who changed the focus to fit their agenda.

  • Mirage

    Skimmed over the article because much of what it declares, most people on the street already know. However, there were some good points that it doesn’t hurt to drum home … Goldman Sacs type institutions primarily rule our world.

    As for Ron Paul, he has some good ideas, and some poor ones like all people, but at the end of the day: Ron Paul cannot win/become president … his Republican Party has seen to that.
    So Bob, how about offering some real world solutions that might actually work, verus beating this flacid, ineffectual fascade to death?

    Face reality: without changes to the political system in this country, not much will be done for the middle class and it will continue to dissolve.

    I believe Main Street’s only chance for some semblence of a fair playing field will come through social movements like OWS, “Get Money Out”. Sometimes you can’t ask for change … you have to TAKE IT!
    Come spring time, these movements will grow and hopefully force Washington to throw us a few bones.

    Check out former Tea Party/independent minded commentator Dylan Radigan of MSNBC TV: his “30 Millon Job Tour” will be traveling around the country trying to bring people/industry together in recreating jobs/manufacturing in America.
    Radigan is also the author of the just released “Greedy Bastards” – check him out. He is the ONLY person out there I hear lambasting ALL PARTIES.

    At the end of the day, positive change for the middle class will only happen when Main Street America-people begin working together across party divides, and focus their combined energy on changing our political system and ALL PARTIES. How about no parties … just a nation of independents?
    The powers that be want us divided, lost in our political ideology/hatreds … diluted, a weakened threat.
    As long as people foment hatred in one political direction, Washington wins.

  • meteorlady

    If Obama wins again, I’m going on strike. If Romney or Gingrich win, I’m going on strike. If the congress is not made up predominately citizens who take liberty seriously, I’m going on strike. I will close the doors of my business and take off for parts unknown where I can live in freedom and enjoy the fruits of my labor.

    There is nothing we can accomplish through armed revolt, the government has too many weapons to keep us in our places. Waco and Ruby Ridge were perfect examples. My pistol and rifles will do me no good against government troopers, but will help me secure my property from looters.

    What needs to be done is to stop the entire United States in it’s tracks. That means a nation-wide strike by taxpayers who are required to give their money to those that don’t produce anything at all. Save up food, water and supplies and stop working for a month. Stop paying taxes and filing tax returns for an entire year. Just stop the engine of government!

    • http://Personalliberty Tony

      To meteorlady:
      I,definitely, agree with 100%. I hope others do the same. Hey, if many like minded citizens are armed and trained maybe the gov. forces can be stopped in its tracks. Thanks!!

    • FreedomFighter

      Yes the Military must side with the constitution, or any resistance will be a blood bath.

      Yet you fail to understand these NWO elites want to kill 90% of the population anyways, so they say, so they will, if given the chance.

      When you finally realize, and its a hard one to fathom, they already want you dead, your children slaves, microchiped, druged and stupid subhumans, you really understand whats going on…you have looked into the eye of pure evil and its staring back with hate.

      Better to go down in resistance of evil, then to walk to your death like the jews did in Germany.

      Laus Deo
      Semper Fi

    • John D. Floyd

      Why not just elect and support God fearing people who practice the same ethic our founding fathers did- let God be the governing factor in their lives and live it.

    • Angel Wannabe

      Metorlady, Fully Agreed, but it gotta be all of us pulling taxes, if there is just a few of us doing it, they can throw us in jail. They’d be hard pressed to jail all of us, of course they could gas us.

  • don

    all this big money can be beat,but ignorance seems to rule. people vote for candidates for all the wrong reasons.i heard some women voted for clinton because he was good looking. some people vote one party or the other because their family was loyal to a party. commom people open your minds and look and listen. it might make things a lot different. seems ignorance is all there is in a lot of voters. i see how big bucks get in peoples heads. the vote can beat big bucks. too bad everyone doesn’t get out and vote wisely with an open mind. too many people have totally given up and say nothing will ever change. i can see why we are where we are at.

  • Bob from SoCal

    I really hope that enough people are awake by the next election.
    Ron Paul 2012! Good article Bob; Thanks.

  • John D. Floyd

    You get honest, God fearing people in office who indeed practive a true Christian ethic the so called “corporate” corruption will cease to exist. Corporations operate under the laws imposed upon them by idiots in the political systrem and when things go bad because of those laws, the politicians blame corporate greed- and the “sheeple” follow along as I see it herein. Good banking practices long ago included NOT loaning money to people who demonstrated poor self control and management of their respources. Liberal politics forced changes that kead to the dwonfall of the system by relaxing credit standards. Corporations ar ein busines ot make a profit for those invested therein, adn bad business practrices would not allow a profit as the free market wuld avoid doing busines with scam artists corporates. That is a proven historical fact. But bad legislation- in the guise of leveling the playing field- ends up costing those of us who do properly manage the resources they have earned, signifanct sums fo dollars to straighten it out. Get liberalism- which always leads to a fialed system- out of our sytem, require personal accountability for one’s actions and the cost of everything will come down, business ethics will rise and a general overall improvement of living will return to the US. The result of removing God from our lives is catastrophic failure, not unlike we have seen in recent years. People run businesses, corporations reflect those idealogies of the people running them. Politicians lay out the ground rules. When they make cluster screw-ups (like they have in recent years) at our expense, they bail them out to cover their assets (again at our expense), not ours. Then the uneducated public re-elects those same politicians to do it again? Maxine Waters, Charles Rangel, Barney Frank et all are major contributors to the current dire straights we are in. Educate your selves to make better choices and things will change for the better. Learn whyy the politicians bailed out the too big to fail- because the politicians caused it and were covering their tracks!!

    • John D. Floyd

      I must apologize for my typos as I had eye surgery and have difficulty seeing while in recovery.

  • Aurelio

    Last time we elected a Muslim that hates the country that gave him everything. Now with this Newtvolution some want to elect Adolf Hitler.
    If you want to take a peak at our future, look at the leaders we have elected. These are not the americans that built this country; they are the ones called by history to destroy it. We’d better get our shoes on!

  • joesixpack31

    Worth noting also in McCains case is the substantial support he has received from the terrorist connected Albanian American Civic League, or AACL and its founder former Republican congressman Joe DioGuardi of New York.

    http://www.wnd.com/index.php?pageId=57678

    McCain’s presidential campaign received strong financial support from AACL that also backs the Kosovo Liberation Army, a Muslim terrorist group with ties to criminal drug networks and al-Qaida. Let’s face it. McCains ethics, which are about average for the US political landscape, have deteriorated to the point where he would probably sell his own mother or grandmother.

  • Martin

    Remember those bumper stickers with the American flag that used to say, “America, Love It Or Leave It!”? If RP loses, maybe it’s time we thought about the Leave It option.

    • Nadzieja Batki

      What nation will take you? Have you thought out things long term?

  • http://none aaron

    I hate to say this,but I think that Ron Paul will lose.—Most of the voters still don’t know what’s going on.— Ron Paul is exactly what this country needs right now and if he doesn’t win, and the “stupidhead voters” get their way, then this great country will go by the way of the Dinosaurs—

    • Susie4Liberty

      Aaron, thaqt’s EXACTLY what CORPORATE ANYTHING want us to think! I use as a barometer the response I get when I’m out and out with my “RECLAIMING AMERICA” shirt; the comments are overwhelmingly positive for Ron Paul. But of course, ‘these’ people don’t count as far as CORPORATE is concerned. BUT IF their VOTES DO, without voter fraud, Ron Paul will win.

      Let’s get back to work… Our Beloved America is worth it…and I believe We have a Duty…

  • William Stedman

    You tell the truth in this article about Gingrich, Romney, etc., and come out for Ron Paul. Why is it then that I just got an email from you that is a “Money Bomb” ad for Newt Gingrich? He has been and still is at the government trough. Anybody want a copy of it, friend me on facebook. Look for the Geeky logo to make sure it’s the right one.

    • http://www.boblivingstonletter.com/ Bob Livingston

      Dear William Stedman,

      Because the Gingrich campaign paid to advertise to our site. His campaign realizes there are a great number of Gingrich supporters reading Personal Liberty and they believe they stand to receive an adequate return on their investment.

      As a conservative publication, we believe in free enterprise. We don’t accept donations from organizations that would require us to adhere to a certain agenda. However, capital is required to remain in business. Selling advertising allows us to remain independent. Accepting advertising in no way implies an endorsement, as my columns endorsing Ron Paul should attest.

      Best wishes,
      Bob

  • Susie4Liberty

    Well, only comment I’ve posted in a couple of days…except to ‘unsubscibe’ from several claiming to be ‘Conservative’ webites. I’m tired of doing my research/reading/listening – and I KNOW the Corporate Media is manipulating “our news”…and GOP Corporate has very openly told us what “they” will “allow” in this election. Not difficult to recognize what’s coming: “Here’s the new boss; same as the old boss” happy reporting.

    I’ve been contributing $$’s, and by golly, I want some results from this man I bought! (25-max 50$.) I want integrity and for him to WORK HARD at restoring our Constitutional form of Govt. I want him to be free of influence of Big CORPORATE – including GOP Corporate. (He’s Not for Sale – which means he threatens the corrupt way of doing business…and ‘they’ feel he MUST be stopped!)
    And as you read this, you KNOW I support Ron Paul, and yet…some people still don’t realize/understand that our REPUBLIC IS FALLING?

    So, thank you for publishing this article, Bob Livingston. So very many good responses that I regret I can’t keep almost all of them We the People have awakened…

    • NC

      Susie, if the country is in as bad shape as you say it is and Mr’ Pauls numbers are as low as the pollsters say they are, by the time Mr. Paul and his calvery get big enough to save us our government will be in the hands of the kids at the malls.
      Realistically, our problem at the moment is the shape of our economy brought forth by the failure of the bush administration to deliver on a promise to give us a better economy than they inherited from Clinton

      Who fixes the problem? Mr. Paul and his 13% or one of the parties sharing the other 87%? I am going to bet on the big number people?
      If history has anything to do with who should do the job it’s a no-brainer!!! see “bulls,bears donkeys and elephants” on your search engine or “Presidents and Prosperity” at Forbes.com!! Faux Noise will not be giving you either of these sites nor do they even attempt to contest them!! They just hope you never see them!!

      • Angel Wannabe

        NC, Wah wah wah….same old tired IT’S ALL BUSHES FAULT line…you Libs crack me up..just sayin..

      • DaveH

        Did you see Susie sticking up for Bush anywhere in her comment, NC, you Ignoramus?
        I rarely see Bush’s name mentioned on this site, except from Ignorant Liberals, like yourself, who somehow think Two Wrongs Make a Right.

      • OB1

        Ron Paul is not behind in many, many polls. He won the Texas and California straw polls just two plus weeks ago. I am sending you
        a thoughtful obituary for all progressive old school liberals and faux conservatives:

        Today we mourn the passing of a beloved old friend, Common Sense, who has been with us for many years. No one knows for sure how old he was, since his birth records were long ago lost in bureaucratic red tape. He will be remembered as having cultivated such valuable lessons as: – Knowing when to come in out of the rain; – Why the early bird gets the worm; … – Life isn’t always fair; – And maybe it was my fault. Common Sense lived by simple, sound financial policies, don’t spend more than you can earn and adults, not children, are in charge. His health began to deteriorate rapidly when well-intentioned but overbearing regulations were set in place. Reports of a 6-year-old boy charged with sexual harassment for kissing a classmate; teens suspended from school for using mouthwash after lunch; and a teacher fired for reprimanding an unruly student, only worsened his condition. Common Sense lost ground when parents attacked teachers for doing the job that they themselves had failed to do in disciplining their unruly children. It declined even further when schools were required to get parental consent to administer sun lotion or an aspirin to a student; but could not inform parents when a student became pregnant and wanted to have an abortion. Common Sense lost the will to live as the churches became businesses; and criminals received better treatment than their victims. Common Sense took a beating when you couldn’t defend yourself from a burglar in your own home and the burglar could sue you for assault. Common Sense finally gave up the will to live, after a woman failed to realize that a steaming cup of coffee was hot. She spilled a little in her lap, and was promptly awarded a huge settlement. Common Sense was preceded in death, by his parents, Truth and Trust, by his wife Discretion, his daughter Responsibility, and his son, Reason. He is survived by his 4 stepbrothers – I Know My Rights, I Want It Now, Someone Else Is To Blame and I’m A Victim. Not many attended his funeral because so few realized he was gone. If you still remember him, pass this on.

    • OB1

      Yes. That is why government is trying to control the internet:

      We the People DetailIt wasn’t too long ago that that we had three sources of national news: ABC, CBS, and NBC. Print media were limited to the daily newspaper and national news magazines like Time, Newsweek, and U.S. News & World Report. No more.

      The media gatekeepers are few and far between today. The last gate – the biggest gate – is the internet. If it can’t be controlled, the people can’t be controlled. That’s why governments around the world are working to implement ways to control it. A nation like China just does it, but here in the United States the pretense of a legitimate legal remedy must be found.

      Congress got slapped down with an all-out internet frontal attack that shut down their phone lines. Republican Senator Everett Dirksen (1896–1969) explains what happens when sustained pressure is put on Congress: “When we feel the heat, we see the light.” Gary North comments:

      The Good Old Boys learned that they cannot conduct business as usual any longer — not when Internet autonomy is concerned. The Internet can mobilize millions of voters in hours. The Good Old Boys had not yet figured this out on Tuesday. They are slow learners.

      Al Gore didn’t realize what he had invented.

      Even the leftist New York Times understood what happened. Of course, they’ve seen the effect of the internet on their industry through a drop in subscription rates and ad revenue:

      And for all the campaign contributions, Washington parties and high-priced lobbyists the old economy could muster, nothing could compare to the tentacles the new economy can reach into Americans’ everyday lives through sites like Wikipedia.

      The most encouraging aspect of the protest was the action people took. What politicians count on is a short memory and activist exhaustion. These guys won’t stop. Harry Reid has postponed a vote on the controversial laws. He’s waiting for the outcome of the 2012 election. This is from the “Techdirt” site:

      Think the blackouts were just a “publicity stunt” that didn’t wake up the American people to a serious problem with the legislative process? Wikipedia has now revealed that an astounding eight million people used its tool to look up their elected officials’ contact info. It’s not yet clear how many actually called, but some information on calls is starting to come out, and it sure sounds like a lot of people called.

      We heard from multiple Senate staffers that the phones — both in DC and back home in the district offices — were ringing non-stop with complaints about the bill. Our own calling widget, care of Engine Advocacy, got a tremendous amount of usage — including over 2,000 phone calls per minute at peak calling times. Meanwhile, Google’s online petition scored 4.5 million signatures… and that’s the number that was reported earlier in the day. I’m sure it was higher by the end of the day. Anyone think this isn’t a mainstream issue yet? More importantly, can anyone explain why various Senators still want to move forward with this bill?

      The battle’s not over. Keep a sharp eye and keep the heat on. Your congressman is counting on you to fatigue of “eternal vigilance.”

      Read more: Why the Government Must Control the Internet http://godfatherpolitics.com/3293/why-the-government-must-control-the-internet/#ixzz1kJRtazOQ

  • Jon

    I mildly object to the title– we ought to be able to buy a better one. This all reminds me of a joke I saw recently, showing a cow standing before the slaughterhouse that had two entrance doors: one labelled “democrat” and the other, “republican”.

  • http://www.auntlesspost.com douglas dauntless

    Now that we have been informed who owns the Presidents and senators and Congreesmen what do we do as citizens to stop all this corruption

  • adam mickiewich

    yes folks we should use American ingenuity and trace back how did it happen where started to go wrong and start to correct by the roots, because now everything is so convoluted, and if we try to fix something it looks like one onion there is always one more layer of lays, but we have to start it because we start to look like … I rather not write here down!

  • David

    The sheepeople are caught up in the ‘us versus them’ con game, but what they don’t/can’t/won’t accept is that both parties are interchangeable. They may talk differently, but when all is said and done, the middle class gets raped again and the fat cats get fatter.
    New Congressmen go through ‘orientation’ where they are told, in no uncertain terms, what they can and can’t do. The leadership buys their loyalty and silence with committee assignments and other perks.
    The only way to chage the system is to change who we put in office. Very simple – for the next 3-4 elections, vote all incumbents out and vote only for third party candidates. Yes, we will get some crackpots and extremists, but you can’t change the system if you keep reelecting the same kind of politicians. Once we get different players in there, taking the money out of politics, term limits, revolving door to lobbying jobs, etc may have a real chance of succeeding.

  • Tazio2013

    From today’s Daily Bell:

    The US is not just an empire – it is apparently an empire in the service of the Anglosphere one-world conspiracy. The wars that the “US” is fighting now are the capstone of the New World Order. The electorate has little idea of why they are being fought or why they are taking so long and maiming so many.

    The US and the West itself is not actually run by its citizens anymore and probably hasn’t been (at least in the case of the US) for about 100 years. Small-bore elections and small-bore economic and the entrepreneurial activity have little impact on the larger power structure, which is animated by huge corporate, banking and military enterprises run out of the City of London, Washington DC, Tel Aviv and apparently the Vatican.

    To indicate that the US economy is “bouncing back” is to make a statement that is devoid of reality, in our view. The unemployment rate in the US is probably 20 percent or greater, price inflation is far greater than is generally stated and whole cities (Detroit) are being torn down as US industry continues to move abroad, thanks to such malicious managed trade treaties as CAFTA and NAFTA.

    Here’s what’s going on – and Evans-Pritchard is not, in our view, reporting on it, for some reason, not this time anyway. The powers-that-be apparently want to re-elect Barack Obama – and from now until election day US citizens may be exposed to a steady diet of “economic recovery” news.

    But after the re-election of Barack Obama – who is not what he appears to be – the globalization of the West and especially the US will continue apace. We shall discover the “recovery” is not quite so substantial as it has been said to be.

    Instead, there will be a continued effort by the elites to hollow the US’s and the West’s economy in order to bring the economies of the developing world and the US into rough parity. This is all part of a larger process inherent in creating an equitable New World Order – from the point of view of the elites, at least.

    http://www.thedailybell.com/3531/US-Rebounds-Prosperity-Around-the-Corner

  • FreedomFighter

    Biggest Solar flare since 95 will be hitting tommarow.

    Sun fart coming, no flying to North Pole, what else>

    Laus Deo
    Semper Fi

  • Earl, QUEENS, NY

    I’ve long enjoyed viewing your website and agree with many of your articles. But I’ve been disappointed lately as I get the impression that many of you really want Ron Paul for POTUS. WHY?? He’s a nincompoop and a George McGovern – type crackpot on foreign policy. In fact, this fool Paul may be even worse than Obama on foreign policy. Anybody who’s worse than BHO on an important issue must be defeated, and should abandon the race for POTUS!! Can you imagine this fool debating BHO on foreign policy?? I bet BHO could beat him without a teleprompter!! As for being pro-Constitution, there are many conservatives who ARE pro-Constitution. We certainly don’t need a crack-pot (who BTW wants to legalize both of these brain damaging substances!!) to protect the Constitution. Some of you people need to get your heads out of the sand!! Being anti-Paul is NOT being against our Constitution. Where in the Constitution does it say we should legalize crack or pot?? That makes as much sense as the liberal democraps who cite the welfare cause to justify Obamacare, redistribution of wealth, etc.

    Although their party tends to be IMHO too laisse-faire, I do agree with Libertarians on some issues. E.g., I did vote for Harry Browne in 1996 – not only because I saw Bob Dole as an unelectable weak moderate, but seeing his wife Elizabeth by his side turned me off – all the ridiculus regulations (safety belt laws, air bags, etc.) enacted during her tenure in the Reagan Administration. However, as for Ron ‘Wrong’ Paul, he isn’t even worthy to be re-elected to Congress, much less the White House. Texas voters really should try to defeat ‘Wrong’ Paul and dispatch him to retirement in the next congressional primary. If you really are pro-Constitution, then you should focus on the political party which we know constantly thumbs its nose at our Constitution – that is – DEFEAT THE LEFTWING DEMOCRAP PARTY!!
    Reply

    • Jay

      Earl, you’re a lunatic! Please read slowly, and carefully…

      Does Ron Paul want decriminalize Cannabis?

      Ron Paul: I would, at the federal level. I don’t have control over the states. And that’s why the CONSTITUTION’S there. On the issue of drugs, we have spent nearly FIVE HUNDRED BILLION DOLLARS on the War on Drugs, since the 1970s. Total failure. Some day, we have to admit it. Today, we have the federal government going into states that have legal medical marijuana, arresting people–undermining state laws–arresting people who use marijuana when they’re dying with cancer and AIDS, and it’s done with, as a compassionate conservative. And it doesn’t work. What it does, it removes the ability to states to do their things, and also introduces the idea that it’s the federal government that will get to decide whether we get to take vitamins, and alternative medical care, or whatever. Most of our history, believe it or not, had no drug laws. Prohibition has been an absolute failure for alcohol. Drug addiction is a medical problem. It’s not a problem of the law.

      RON PAUL ON FOREIGN POLICY: I believe our founding fathers had it right when they argued for peace and commerce between nations, and against entangling political and military alliances. In other words, noninterventionism.

      Noninterventionism is not isolationism. Nonintervention simply means America does not interfere militarily, financially, or covertly in the internal affairs of other nations. It does not mean that we isolate ourselves; on the contrary, our founders advocated open trade, travel, communication, and diplomacy with other nations.
      Thomas Jefferson summed up the noninterventionist foreign policy position perfectly in his 1801 inaugural address: “Peace, commerce, and honest friendship with all nations — entangling alliances with none.” Washington similarly urged that we must, “Act for ourselves and not for others,” by forming an “American character wholly free of foreign attachments.”

      Yet how many times have we all heard these wise words without taking them to heart? How many claim to admire Jefferson and Washington, but conveniently ignore both when it comes to American foreign policy? Since so many apparently now believe Washington and Jefferson were wrong on the critical matter of foreign policy, they should at least have the intellectual honesty to admit it.

      Of course we frequently hear the offensive cliché that, “times have changed,” and thus we cannot follow quaint admonitions from the 1700s. The obvious question, then, is what other principles from our founding era should we discard for convenience? Should we give up the First amendment because times have changed and free speech causes too much offense in our modern society? Should we give up the Second amendment, and trust that today’s government is benign and not to be feared by its citizens? How about the rest of the Bill of Rights?
      It’s hypocritical and childish to dismiss certain founding principles simply because a convenient rationale is needed to justify interventionist policies today. The principles enshrined in the Constitution do not change. If anything, today’s more complex world cries out for the moral clarity provided by a noninterventionist foreign policy.

      It is time for Americans to rethink the interventionist foreign policy that is accepted without question in Washington. It is time to understand the obvious harm that results from our being dragged time and time again into intractable and endless Middle East conflicts, whether in Iraq, Iran, Syria, Lebanon, or Palestine. It is definitely time to ask ourselves whether further American lives and tax dollars should be lost trying to remake the Middle East in our image. -Ron Paul

    • DaveH

      Uh, Earl, please explain to us in what respect is Ron Paul a ‘nincompoop’?

    • Jay

      Just a little bit more Earl. This should help you connect the dots!

      U.S. Patent 6630507
The U.S. Patent Office issued patent #6630507 to the U.S.Health and Human Services filed on 2/2/2001. The patent lists the use of certain cannabinoids found within the cannabis sativa plant as useful in certain neurodegenerative diseases such as Alzheimer’s, Parkinson’s, and HIV dementia.

      Since cannabis sativa (marijuana) contains compounds recognized and endorsed by an agency of the U.S. government why is it that marijuana remains on the Federal Schedule One list of drugs? The issuance of patent #6630507 is a direct contradiction of the governments own definition for classification of a Schedule 1 drug. US Patent 6,630,507 Cannabinoids as Antioxidants and Neuroprotectants.

      “Cannabinoids have been found to have antioxidant properties, unrelated to NMDA receptor antagonism. This new found property makes cannabinoids useful in the treatment and prophylaxis of wide variety of oxidation associated diseases, such as ischemic, age-related, inflammatory and autoimmune diseases. The cannabinoids are found to have particular application as neuroprotectants, for example in limiting neurological damage following ischemic insults, such as stroke and trauma, or in the treatment of neurodegenerative diseases, such as Alzheimer’s disease, Parkinson’s disease and HIV dementia.

      Nonpsychoactive cannabinoids, such as cannabidoil, are particularly advantageous to use because they avoid toxicity that is encountered with psychoactive cannabinoids at high doses useful in the method of the present invention.”…

      The DEA (Drug Enforcement Administration) classifies marijuana as a dangerous drug with no medical value. That classification contradicts mounds of evidence showing marijuana to be a very safe and effective medicine. Marijuana is more effective, much less expensive, and much safer than many drugs currently used in its place. Marijuana can provide excellent relief for those who suffer from cancer, AIDS, glaucoma, multiple sclerosis, chronic pain, arthritis, rheumatism, asthma, insomnia, and depression.

      If knowledge of marijuana’s many medicinal uses, its remarkable safety, and hemp’s enormous potential as a natural resource become widely known, THE DEA FEARS THAT SUPPORT FOR MARIJUANA PROHIBITION WILL COLLAPSE, AND THUS THREATEN THE DEA’S BUDGET.

      To maintain the myth that marijuana/hemp is useless and dangerous, the DEA prohibits medicinal use of marijuana, denies researchers access to marijuana for use in clinical studies, and rejects all applications to grow industrial hemp. In 1988–after reviewing all evidence brought forth in a lawsuit against the government’s prohibition of medical marijuana–the DEA’s own administrative law judge (Judge Francis Young) wrote: Why Our Drug Laws Have Failed: A Judicial Indictment Of War On Drugs.

      “The evidence in this record clearly shows that marijuana has been accepted as capable of relieving the distress of great numbers of very ill people, and doing so with safety under medical supervision. It would be unreasonable, arbitrary and capricious for the Drug Enforcement Administration to continue to stand between those sufferers and the benefits of this substance in light of the evidence.” Judge Francis Young of the Drug Enforcement Administration went on to say: “Marijuana, in its natural form, is one of the safest therapeutically active substances known. In strict medical terms, marijuana is safer than many foods we commonly consume.” Judge Young recommended that the DEA allow marijuana to be prescribed as medicine, but the DEA has refused. -Source: US Department of Justice, Drug Enforcement Administration, “In the Matter of Marijuana Rescheduling Petition,” [Docket #86-22], (September 6, 1988), p. 57

    • Jay

      Big Pharma is busily applying for — and has already received — multiple patents for the medical properties of pot.

      These include patents for synthetic pot derivatives (such as the oral THC pill Marinol), cannabinoid agonists (synthetic agents that bind to the brain’s endocannabinoid receptors) like HU-210 and cannabis antagonists such as Rimonabant. This trend was most recently summarized in the NIH paper (pdf), “The endocannabinoid system as an emerging target of pharmacotherapy,” which concluded, “The growing interest in the underlying science has been matched by a growth in the number of cannabinoid drugs in pharmaceutical development from two in 1995 to 27 in 2004.”

      In other words, at the same time the American Medical Association is proclaiming that pot has no medical value, Big Pharma is in a frenzy to bring dozens of new, cannabis-based medicines to market.

      Continued: http://www.alternet.org/drugs/90469/

    • Jay

      Now do you get the picture, Earl???

      “It is said that hemp has up to 50,000 uses, from fiber to fuel to food, but I’ll just provide a taste here:”

      “In modern times, hemp has been used for industrial purposes including paper, textiles, biodegradable plastics, construction, health food, fuel, and medical purposes.”

      “Hemp is one of the faster growing biomasses known, producing up to 25 tons of dry matter per hectare per year, and one of the earliest domesticated plants known. “

      “One highly important use of hemp has been in detoxifying nuclear waste, as demonstrated by experiments in the Ukraine, for example, on the site of the Chernobyl nuclear disaster. Moreover, hemp fuel could actually replace the dangerous and costly nuclear power industry.”

      The agenda of the government in its policies against Cannabis have always been to deprive the people access to the plant, while maintaining control over it for the governments own self-interest. This self-interest extends to a multitude of industries including the prison and military industry, the petroleum, timber, cotton, and pharmaceutical industries, as well as the entirety of the banking and corporate establishment which has become empowered through disconnecting people from their one true source of independence and sustenance, the Earth.

      Cannabis prohibition has served to redirect human evolution from that of a decentralized agrarian lifestyle and natural economy, to a centralized petro-chemical military dictatorship controlled through the artificial economic will of private banks and other trans-national corporate interests.

      The next stage in continuing this control, is in the regulation, licensing and taxation of Cannabis cultivation and use through the only practical means available to the corporate system, which is through genetic engineering and patenting of the Cannabis genome.

      To achieve this end, the foundation is already being laid in the form of California’s upcoming initiative on the 2010 ballot. This initiative is called Proposition 19: The Regulate, Control and Tax Cannabis Act of 2010.

      The leading advocate for Proposition 19 is the organization known as the Drug Policy Alliance (DPA). The DPA is the leading organization spearheading the reform of Cannabis policies in the United States, and has been made up of some of the most powerful and influential characters in today’s global petro-bio-chemical-military-banking-industrial complex.

      Some of the Directors of DPA include the following:

      Paul Adolph Volcker is an Honorary Director of the Drug Policy Alliance (DPA) whose career is closely associated with that of the Federal Reserve Bank. He was president of the Federal Reserve Bank of New York from 1975-1979, governing board member of the Federal Reserve in 1979, and was Chairman of the Federal Reserve from 1979-1987.

      Volcker is believed to be a member of the Council on Foreign Relations, and served as Undersecretary of the Treasury from 1969-1974 before his time with the Federal Reserve. Volcker is chairman of Wolfensohn & Co. and has ties to Chase Manhattan Bank. He is also linked to the Brookings Institute, as well as being an Honorary Trustee at the Aspen Institute, chairman of the Group of 30, and on the board of the Institute for International Economics.

      Continued: http://www.encod.org/info/SOROS-THE-DEA-MONSANTO-AND-GMO.html

      • OB1

        Thank you. Excellent research as usual…

    • Susie4Liberty

      Oh, I see… you’re one of those ‘conservatives’ who chants “We’re so excited! Come and meet the NEW boss….same as the old boss.”

      And “many” of us – more than you know – do NOT want anything similar to the ‘old’ boss/bosses…

  • Liztalk

    What’s up with the publishing of the MONEYBOMB letter from Newt Gingrich… if Bob Livingston -says he endorses Ron Paul? And most of the posters here support Ron Paul. It seems to me that all this talk about money having too much influence in presidential politics – is just superficial talk to get support, and there’s a lot of hypocrisy here in “personalliberty” because Mr. Gingrich must have paid a lot to post his money raising plea here.

    • Jay

      I must say, Liz, that is quite the creative, and imaginative piece you wrote. You Newt-bots never cease to amaze me with your creative writings, and subversive tactics! You get an “A” for effort, how’s that?

      • Liztalk

        Thanks for the “A” grade! But I am definitely not a Newt Gingrich supporter. Nor a Ron Paul supporter….

        • Jay

          Well finish it…your thought, that is.

          • Susie4Liberty

            BUT – she did not finish it… hmmmm

    • http://www.boblivingstonletter.com/ Bob Livingston

      Dear Liztalk,

      I posted the following in response to a similar question earlier in this thread. I present it again, just for you.

      Because the Gingrich campaign paid to advertise to our site. His campaign realizes there are a great number of Gingrich supporters reading Personal Liberty and they believe they stand to receive an adequate return on their investment.

      As a conservative publication, we believe in free enterprise. We don’t accept donations from organizations that would require us to adhere to a certain agenda. However, capital is required to remain in business. Selling advertising allows us to remain independent. Accepting advertising in no way implies an endorsement, as my columns endorsing Ron Paul should attest.

      Best wishes,
      Bob

  • ranger hall

    The MILITARY will follow the orders of the president and their Officers, AS any 3rd world military will do. The only time you can count on the Military is WHEN you have Won about 48% againest the Govt in Control…Then the People in the Military will come over to your side..They will always side with the ones in control=RIGHT OR WRONG.

    The Law states that a Soldier can be put to Death for disobaying a legal order in combat…SO When does a Soldier decide that this order is ILLEGAL and has the guts to refuse.
    This Country and its People can ONLY be defeated from WITHIN

    WE the American People have ALLOWED THIS TO HAPPEN, WE ARE THE ONLY ONES THET CAN PUT A STOP TO IT. BUT WE WILL NOT, WE WILL NOT
    mOST WILL NOT DO NOTHING, JUST SAY WE WILL MAKE CHANGES IN 4 YEARS.

    I PERDICT THAT THE POWERS TO BE WILL HAVE OBAMA IN OFFICE FOR THE NEXT 4 YEARS, I PERDICT THE SAME UNAMERICAN CONGRESS WILL STILL BE IN POWER.

    I PERDICT THE AMERICAN PEOPLE WILL STILL BE SHOUTING THE SAME OLD SLURS AS THEY ARE NOW DOING. HOW SAD, WE ARE NOT BECOMING SHEEP WE ALREADY ARE.

    • Jay

      Well one thing’s for sure, we will never defeat our tyrannical government with that kind of attitude!

    • Raggs

      Good.. then let the military start killing people, BTW I shoot back.

    • r.p.

      Any order from your superiors or the CIC which are in violation of the provisions set forth in the Constitution or the B of R is an illegal order. Your duty-bound to disobey any such orders as required in the Constitution.

      • r.p.

        Sorry: “You are duty-bound”

  • sj

    I say we’re doing a lot of good right here. Thanks Bob. Look around, alot of people are really talking about RP and constitutional gov. waking up. Of course getting RP elected would just be the beginning of a movement. Start with the President,he can introduce legislature that must be dealt with and contain the military a fine start. Then we start voting / sorting out the rest with public opinion behind it. RP isn’t the end all be all fix just the Founder and Leader at helm of the movement that must be or curl up and stick a fork in us.IT CAN BE DONE! If all Americans( or even just a majority could agree on one thing. Freedom. We could fix this thing almost over night. Shake off the Media driven idea that RP can’t win we say who wins if we get the word out to enough people.
    And we really could do it with the inet inforation / ideas can go viril instantly. TPTB are terrified of it obviously and can’t wait to cap it off. That may ultimetly be our trigger

    • Susie4Liberty

      Isn’t it ‘lovely’ to actually have an article posted on which we are able to share our “radical” ideals…the Constitution and Freedom and Liberty,

      Thanks, Bob Livingston… (And seems it’s important to say ‘thank you’ and shows how controlled CORPORATE ANYTHING really is.)

  • TriumphOver Evil

    Ron Paul won’t sell us out, but the establishment will. The only reason
    Gingrich supposedly won in South Carolina was because dead people voted
    for him. It’s amazing that so many dead people like Newt Gingrich, but
    one corpse will love another because they all smell the same – rotten
    to the core.

    • OB1

      Please review the above posts, and yes, we shall triumph over evil. But not without action…prayer…faith…communicating with others. I am posting this poll again from CNN because I really respected the insights of younger people. I have so many more poll results; this was different:

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jp5bfxpchAY&feature=email

      Their conviction made me want to be more effective…try different avenues of communication, i.e., go to other websites and share your facts and your knowledge…sometimes you cannot post any links..spell it out people like this: ronpaul2012 dot com. Simple. Much harder for longer sites. Persevere. Get you life and job work done then post like holy moley! Share what you have with your neighbor then mention small insights, like, perhaps google this or that. Get a google or yahoo email account so you can respond to the “news”. So many people actually get their “new” daily from these pits of dis-information. Remember the US in the United Sates of America. Try this at lunch hour or after work. Pray like you never have first thing in the am then get at it! Then, go to work or do yo work, and pause for 30 minutes for the cause of freedom! Beat back the lies with accurate facts (the trolls can’t stand that!….) and keep on keep’n on. Keep educating yourselves! “by their fruits ye shall know them” (NT King James). End of case. Well, maybe I should post the fruits of the spirit according to the New Testament: love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, gentleness and self-control. But the greatest are faith, hope and love. (That’s another topic altogether….)

  • sj

    What’s more important than getting our guy in is getting their guy out. A potus with constitutional integrity would truly be a powerful man. More so than the deflated husk of a puppet we have now.

    • cawmun cents

      You must be a Democrat,because four years ago that sentiment is what got Obama elected.It didnt matter who ran,they got a figurehead to run against”Republicans”,and now this country is in a worse mess than when they took over.Beating the other guy in an election without fixing the conditions extant,will only result in the other folks bringing another figure head to power who doesnt get anything done,four years from now.
      We need a leader,not a win.Winning tommorow wont mean squat if we cannot win the next day,etc.etc,You only serve to perpetuate the lousy conditions we find our nation in at this time.
      Democrats had eight years to set up a person with no political tout whatsoever to steal an election last cycle.Do you wish to have another four years of keep on keepin’on?Not me.
      Ron Paul 2012
      -CC.

  • Raggs

    AH… george soros making threats that the OWS will turn violent?
    Being that george himself with king oblama backs these lowlife scum
    I hope the hell that they do turn violent.. That will be an open door to rid this country of all of this scum once and for all.

  • Raggs

    I think that we all need to run this stupid son-of-a-bitch out of our country! and back to where he belongs.

  • sj

    We have been divided down party lines, racial lines, class lines, state lines, and of course religion. Its time to erase some lines. Then we become one big angry mob with one goal. Keep up the good work Bob.

  • Alex

    Ron Paul will never be president—those of you holding out hope are blind to the fact that harldy anyone in the Rethuglican Party cares for him.

    Your “money bombs” are JUST THAT—you are blowing up your money! But keep doing it—hopefully it will fire Paul up to run as a Third Party…er, Third RAIL Kandidate, thus insuring that President Barack Hussein Obama will have a second term. As poor a performer as Obama has been in his first term, we cannot turn back what precious little progress has been made.

    All of you Fright Wingers need to grow up, to mature and stop being so scared of Progress.

    • OB1

      Thanks, Bob. I guess it’s been one year now I’ve been here. Keep up the good work and open forum for us. I want to share a poem, of all things:

      IF (title)

      If you can keep your head when all about you
      Are losing theirs and blaming it on you;
      If you can trust yourself when all men doubt you,
      But make allowance for their doubting too:
      If you can wait and not be tired by waiting,
      Or being lied about, don’t deal in lies,
      Or being hated don’t give way to hating,
      And yet don’t look too good, nor talk too wise;

      If you can dream—and not make dreams your master;
      If you can think—and not make thoughts your aim,
      If you can meet with Triumph and Disaster
      And treat those two impostors just the same:
      If you can bear to hear the truth you’ve spoken
      Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,
      Or watch the things you gave your life to, broken,
      And stoop and build ’em up with worn-out tools;

      If you can make one heap of all your winnings
      And risk it on one turn of pitch-and-toss,
      And lose, and start again at your beginnings
      And never breathe a word about your loss:
      If you can force your heart and nerve and sinew
      To serve your turn long after they are gone,
      And so hold on when there is nothing in you
      Except the Will which says to them: ‘Hold on!’

      If you can talk with crowds and keep your virtue,
      Or walk with Kings—nor lose the common touch,
      If neither foes nor loving friends can hurt you,
      If all men count with you, but none too much:
      If you can fill the unforgiving minute
      With sixty seconds’ worth of distance run,
      Yours is the Earth and everything that’s in it,
      And—which is more—you’ll be a Man, my son!

      Rudyard Kipling…(woMAN for all people who are concerned about that..sad I even have to mention this…could go on but why, at this point?

      • Jay

        I’ve always enjoyed that poem, OB1. Thank you for posting it!

      • Susie4Liberty

        I gave this at a declamation contest in third or fourth grade; certain my cute little NATL MARKSMANSHIP MOTHER picked it, and I liked it; she wouldn’t have MADE me give it.

        I like it very much…and being PC has us in a mess, in my opinion…

    • Jay

      Whatever you say, denniso. And no, its not a typo!

  • Palin16
  • Bonnie Parmenter

    Right on, this article says how it truly is. Although, Newt did a good job when he had to work with Clinton, at least the budget was balanced. Ron Paul is the only one that will work against, or even acknowledge the evils of, the Federal Reserve. People do not realize there is no true freedom with them in control of our economics. I, also, 100% agree with his foreign policy yet I think that is the policy that will make or break him. I would really like to see him make a commitment not to run as a third party. I will not support him if he does. We have a priority here and that is to get Obama out of office.

    • Thinking About

      Newt also was kicked out of the Speaker slit by his fellow rep members.

    • Susie4Liberty

      Oh yes… a really good ‘job’. From Texas, and having worked HARD against guv perr’s Trans-Tx Corridor? Lead me to NAFTA and how well Newton did getting the same-as-EU-for-North America legislation thru. And the UN’s GAT. He is a smooth operator for the NWO Agenda. And I just personally happen to be willing to fight it, NOW and FOREVER….

  • Thinking About

    For those voting for Paul because of his record, 464 bills introduced and ONE passed, for the record keepers that is about 0.22%. Have not tried to add his earmarks but in 2011 he was one of four republicans to request earmarks.

    • Susie4Liberty

      And so, quote the bills he introduced…that were not passed… And if you do, you’ll understand even better why we’re in so much trouble and WHY we SHOULD have known by what our Congress passed…and by what they did NOT PASS.

  • Brice

    Agreed, Ron Paul is the only one to retake control of our monetary system and government… except for one minor problem…. he’ll be assasinated within months of his election especially if he is able to put into motion some of the ideas he proposes… The underworld ‘military-industrial’ complex will see to it that this happens…

    By contrast, early in Obama’s administration, I felt that he would also be assasinated due to the promises he had made during the campaign…. and yet I soon realized, incredulously, that he was one “of them”…. a puppet to his handlers, promoting their plans for a New World Order…

  • Bonnie Parmenter

    Jay you are right. We will never defeat our tyrant government with such a negative attitude. Ron Paul can win but he has to make a commitment and not say things like, he is trying to promote a cause. He has to say “I am running for President and that is my object because I want to free Americans.” I think he has a chance to win because the young love him, the old support him and he relates to many Tea Partiers, such as myself, and may OWS protesters also.

    • OB1

      Yes, and so many more…why do you think the media is blocking any mention of him (unless it’s Newt saying we should audit the FED?) Also check out Obama’s…same as Romney’s…really creepy….

      RON PAUL’S TOP 10
      US Army $78,056
      US Navy $56,769
      US Air Force $55,405
      Google Inc $52,801
      Microsoft Corp $47,923
      US Postal Service $26,591
      Hewlett-Packard $25,318
      Lockheed Martin $23,425
      Cisco Systems $23,007
      Boeing Co $22,434
      Verizon Communications $19,944
      367,200

      Mitt Romney:
      Credit Suisse Group $203,750
      Morgan Stanley $199,800
      HIG Capital $186,500
      Barclays $157,750
      Kirkland & Ellis $132,100
      Bank of America $126,500
      PriceWaterhouseCoopers $118,250
      EMC Corp $117,300
      JPMorgan Chase & Co $112,250
      The Villages $97,500
      Vivint Inc $80,750
      Marriott International $79,837
      Sullivan & Cromwell $79,250
      Bain Capital $74,500
      UBS AG $73,750
      Wells Fargo $61,500
      Blackstone Group $59,800
      Citigroup Inc $57,050
      Bain & Co $52,500

      • Jay

        Hmm, interesting!

      • OB1

        Woops! Forgot Obama:

        Here’s why they tell you Paul can’t win. They do not want him to! Does anyone think this is a coincidence????????????

        Sources:
        GAO Audit of the Federal Reserve Report, Page 131
        Campaign Contributions: search campaign contributions “canidate” opensecrets

        Federal Reserve Audit from 2007 – 2010 GAO (16 Trillion in bailouts revealed, domestic & foreign)
        Citigroup: $2.5 trillion ($2,500,000,000,000)
        Morgan Stanley: $2.04 trillion ($2,040,000,000,000)
        Merrill Lynch: $1.949 trillion ($1,949,000,000,000)
        Bank of America: $1.344 trillion ($1,344,000,000,000)
        Goldman Sachs: $814 billion ($814,000,000,000)
        JP Morgan Chase: $391 billion ($391,000,000,000)
        UBS (Switzerland): $287 billion ($287,000,000,000)
        Credit Suisse (Switzerland): $262 billion ($262,000,000,000)
        Lehman Brothers: $183 billion ($183,000,000,000)

        Top Campaign contributors for Bush
        Morgan Stanley $603,480
        Merrill Lynch $586,254
        UBS AG $474,325
        Goldman Sachs $394,600
        Lehman Brothers $361,525
        Credit Suisse Group $326,040
        Citigroup Inc $320,820
        Bank of America $218,261

        Top Campaign contributors for Obama
        Goldman Sachs $1,013,091
        JPMorgan Chase & Co $808,799
        Citigroup Inc $736,771
        UBS (Switzerland ) $532,674
        Morgan Stanley $512,232

        Top Campaign contributors for Romney
        Goldman Sachs $235,275
        Citigroup Inc $178,450
        Merrill Lynch $176,125
        Morgan Stanley $170,350
        Lehman Brothers $154,800
        UBS AG $125,150
        JPMorgan Chase & Co $123,800
        Credit Suisse Group $104,900

        • Jay

          Wow! So according to the numbers, OB1, all bets are on Obama to win!

  • OB1

    Dear Patriots: Please check this out: (bsolutely have to get back to work):

    Subject: Who is buying companies making guns(Remington, Bushmaster,etc)???? For the last several years a company called The Freedom Group has been buying up gun and ammunition manufacturers.Some of the companies are Bushmaster,Marlin,Remington,DPMS, Dakota Arms and H&R. Some people worry that this Freedom Group is going to control most of the firearms companies in the United States . If you control the manufacturers you can decide to stop selling to civilians.What a perfect way to control guns. Now if you do somedigging you will see that The Freedom Group is owned by a company called Cerberus Capital Management. Guess who controls Cerberus??? GEORGE SOROS !!!!!!!!! One of the most evil men on this planet who wants to restrict or ban all civilian guns. Please pass this on to all your freedom loving friends. This needs to come out.Why have we not heard about this in the “mainstream” media? I would think this would be BIG news.

  • don

    need a good dose of anti-trust law… trebled damages, etc., but these rats simply don’t prosecute themselves. We need new legislators – democrat and repub, alike… people who will enfore the Constitution & law as written

  • http://cafr1.com/transition.html GrayStroke

    What most folks do not know about the Mormon cult: http://tinyurl.com/78mwmk5

    About the Author
    Tricia, as a former Mormon Bishop’s daughter and Mormon wife, went through the cultic, violent and bizarre Mormon secret temple ceremonies of which Mitt and Ann Romney continue to attend to this day. As a former Mormon, it took Tricia many years to deprogram herself from the lies, strange ceremonies and strategic misinformation that continues to be fed to all Mormons. Tricia is President of Crisis Management, Incorporated and a media, political and image consultant. She has appeared on numerous national television and radio shows on the subjects of Mormonism, Image Projection, Islam, All Things Political and more. This nation cannot afford to make another mistake in 2012. By the next Presidential Election, our country will not even resemble what our forefathers fought for in order that we as a nation could prosper and enjoy life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. The recent change of power in congress, the hopeful change in the senate and the upcoming presidential election is the only hope we have of turning our country back to the Constitution and to the great nation it once was. If you read this book, you will know why Mitt Romney is not “the one” to lead us out of the recession, much less, to put our country back together. With what is at stake, it is essential to gain knowledge of Romney’s record as a public servant and the shocking beliefs of this man who could become our next president. If the American people posses the information in this book, it very well may avert a similar fate suffered under the Obama Administration and clear the way for an authentic and trustworthy candidate to take the very office that is crucial to lead us back to the nation that once was, and still could be.

  • simian pete

    Mr. Bob Livingston,

    All we need is a hi technological plan. That’s all. It’s all a piece of cake ! I’m learning Math – got the Algebra and Geometry for Dummies books… I’m unemployed so I spend a few hours a day trying to sharpen technology skills .. you and all the other conservatives, should do the same.

    It’s not who controls the money – it’s who controls the technology ! – who will rule in the end.

    So Mr. Livingston, what yu could do is start your own hi-tech company. Start developing “Star Trek” like weapons and propulsion systems and stuff. Them bankers will be clueless…..

    If they pass a law against guns and bullets, we’ll just build lasers and phasers ! Pass the plans out for free on the internet. That will put alot of people out of business in the Military Industrial Complex !! We’ll just take out the tanks and aircrafts with our phaser guns and photon torpedoes !!!
    YAHOO !! That’s the American way !!!

  • Void1972

    Great article I found
    The International Banking Cartel is the New World Order

    My belief in the existence of the New World Order centers around the activities, actions and writings of the members of the elite (mostly Anglo-American) inside the international banking cartel – which of course includes the Rockefeller and Rothschild families – over roughly the last century.

    This cartel, through their financing of two World Wars; the revolutions of Lenin/Stalin and Hitler, among others; the creation of the IMF, World Bank and other private “central banks” like the Federal Reserve and the Bank of England; as well as their backing of international organizations like the United Nations, World Health Organization, World Trade Organization has sought to control not only the purse strings of the governments of the world, but also the policies, laws and programs that those governments and agencies implement.
    Through their financing of both sides of wars (WWI and II, Cold War, War on Drugs, War on Terror, etc); their manufacture of financial crisis (Great Depression, the coming Greater Depression) and financing of ideological movements (eugenics/population control, feminism, communism, fascism, global warming, etc) the banking cartel has sought to undercut the political, economic and social sovereignty of nations around the world. As a result, their IMF, World Bank and other central bank proxies have managed to put nation after nation in massive debt to them. And as a result, they can further manipulate and control the governments (and citizens) of those nations to further enact their goal of a global government and banking system run – by them and for them – at the expense of all of humanity.

    IMO, the New World Order is not a Jewish thing, it’s not a religious thing, it’s not even solely a money thing (although money is its greatest weapon). It instead is a control thing. They banking elite want to be able to control the globe and everyone in it.

    However, as many who attempt to debunk the New World Order exists have said, nationalism and traditional political and ethnic hostilities have hampered the cartel’s quest for a one world government. Because of this, Russia, China and renegade states like Iran and Venezuela remain largely on the fringes of the NWO’s inner circle. Russia and China are both too big (unlike Iraq, Afghanistan, Panama) and potentially valuable to the cause to ignore or wipe out. But while political and economic relations exist between the western powers and the two outsiders; the potential for conflict with Russia and China in Eurasia or Africa remain very real.

    Throughout the last century, the countries and political leaders that refused to play ball with the banking cartel got their asses kicked. Unfortunately, in the post-WWII world, the United States (both covertly and overtly) has been doing most of the ass kicking for the cartel. And we are in debt up to our eyeballs and our Constitution is hanging by a thread because of it (more on that later). Of course, we see the lesser “outsiders” Iran and Venezuela cozy up to Russia and China and use it to their advantage to thwart the banking cartel’s attempts to have the U.S., or other pro-cartel, military force take them out.

    But, just as it was in the World Wars and the Cold War, the banking cartel benefits if any conflict (short of all-out thermonuclear war) takes place between major and even lesser powers. That’s because war – and the debt that follows it – makes them more money. And it also allows the cartel to step in and offer a “solution” for a peaceful future once hostilities are over, as they did with the United Nations and the Bretton Woods economic makeover after World War II.

    Of course the United Nations, through the corporate media, has largely been painted ineffective to this point. But that ineffectiveness is only on the surface. When it comes to controlling the third world via their population control, medical and economic programs – which are full of systematic graft and corruption – the success of the UN has been tremendous because they “control” the third world by keeping it in the political and economic s—–r while their resources are being stripped right out from under the very people the UN is supposed to be helping.

    But, as money is the NWO’s greatest weapon, and nationalism and traditional nation-state and religious strife is painted as a major threat to its goals (it’s not of course, because as Smedley Butler said “War Is A Racket”). The biggest threat to the New World Order and their aims is the belief of personal liberty and the political self-determination that comes with it; which has stemmed largely from the United States since we were still colonies under British control.
    That doctrine – which the whole of good humanity has aspired to and dreamed of for two centuries – and the future of what it entails is where We the People of the United States come in. What the banking cartel has been doing to other nations – engineered economic collapse via their economic hitmen and Wall Street jackals – is now being done to the United States. Our economy is being systematically destroyed through unprecedented debt via the private Federal Reserve. The goal – as it was in other countries who refuse to yield to global government – is to completely collapse the U.S. economy. Then – through the civil unrest and economic carnage that follows the collapse – install a centrally dominated, dictatorial government where, in the case of the United States, the Constitution and Bill of Rights no longer exist.

    You can see now through the corporate media how anyone who questions the government and their policies as being painted as a potential terrorist. Department of Homeland Security has labeled citizens on the left and right side of the political spectrum as threats. The Department of Defense has said that protest is terrorism. Opponents of the Federal Reserve system are labeled extremists or kooks. And the legislation aimed at exposing its agenda is being ignored, despite its overwhelming support on Capitol Hill and on Main Street. And once again, just as they did with the stimulus – the banking cartel is engaging in economic terrorism – promising total economic collapse if a full open audit of the Federal Reserve takes place.

    From the Patriot Act I and II, the Military Commissions Act, the John Warner Defense Authorization Act – to the current Hate Crimes, Cap and Trade and Cyber Security bills in Congress – the banking cartel and their political whores in Washington D.C. and elsewhere in our nation seek to destroy our founding doctrine and put us under the thumb of the most oppressive, controlled and tax heavy government in American history.

    The longtime goal of the banking cartel and their agents in the U.S. government and corporate whore media is the total destruction of the American Republic. The cartel cannot complete their NWO agenda if We the People are running around touting our Constitution and Bill of Rights as a beacon of freedom for all of humanity to aspire to.
    The banking cartel hates the Constitution. They hate the fact that it says – in Article 1, Section 7, that only Congress has the power:
    “To coin money, regulate the value thereof, and of foreign coin, and fix the standard of weights and measures”

    The banking cartel hates the 1st Amendment:
    “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.”

    They hate the 2nd Amendment:

    “A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.”

    They hate the 4th Amendment:
    “The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.”

    They hate the 9th Amendment:

    “The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.”

    They hate the 10th Amendment:

    “The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states respectively, or to the people.”

    And they would really hate if we removed the 16th Amendment, which by the way is quite likely the only amendment they love:

    “The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes on incomes, from whatever source derived, without apportionment among the several states, and without regard to any census or enumeration.”

    They banking cartel hates the Constitution and those who believe in it, because we stand together in direct opposition to everything they seek in the United States and worldwide. And they hate that for the last 200-plus years, every human being seeking freedom and a better way of life for themselves, their family and their respective countries have looked to the American Republic and our founding doctrine and dream that one day they too can bring “life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness” to their part of the world.

    As many of you know, former Fed chairman Alan Greenspan recently said on national T.V. that the Federal Reserve is above the law and answerable to no one including Congress.

    He said it, on national TV, just like Second National Bank of the United States chairman, Nicholas Biddle, wrote it back in the 1830’s (The following pages come directly from Arthur Schlesinger’s Pulitzer Prize winning book, “The Age of Jackson”).

    The Federal Reserve isn’t above the law. No one in the United States is above the law. And it will be up to We the People to restore the rule of law to our land and punish Alan Greenspan, Ben Bernanke and the rest of the banking cartel and political scum who have brought the United States to the brink of financial ruin.

    As trends forecaster Gerald Celente has stated:
    “The fight that this country has been waging since its inception is for the central bankers not to take over the country.”

    Thomas Jefferson warned of the central bank evils in 1791:
    “If the American People allow private banks to control the issuance of their currency, first by inflation and then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around them will deprive the People of all their Property until their Children will wake up homeless on the continent their Fathers conquered.”
    IMO, the central bankers – both in the U.S. and abroad – are the New World Order. They began their third quest to take over our nation in 1913. And unless they are stopped and the private and criminal Federal Reserve is audited – so that we can expose in broad daylight where each and every dollar they have received since its inception has gone to – they will complete their takeover. If that happens, the United States and the world will collapse into the darkest period since the Great Depression/World War II, when the cartel crashed the world economy, bankrolled Adolf Hitler and led the world into the most deadly and, in their case, profitable war in world history.

    What would Andrew Jackson do?

  • http://deleted Claire

    Hate knows no bounds. Now I read where a cat belonging to an Arkansas Democratic campaign manager was killed. The cat had his head bashed in and the word “liberal” was painted on the cat. The creep that committed this heinous act should suffer and rot in hell. Seems like some people have no conscience. This lowlife nutjob that committed this horrible act probably thinks he is “cool.” To me he is nothing but a uncivilized creep that should be put behind bars. And we wonder why America is becoming a third world country. Shameful.

    • libertytrain

      Good grief Claire, what a horrible story. It is frightening the level of good conscience has dropped to below zero with many people in this world these days. And I’m sad about our own USA – no self dignity, pride left, just a lot of who can you screw out of a dime, like that credit card story simian bragged about. I’m still in some sort of sad shock that he thinks that was some clever act of his. The moral depravity runs the gamut – and both those stories are horrible. One mindless killing of a helpless creature and one mindless thievery – both from some sort of ignorant mindless person…

      • http://deleted Claire

        libertytrain–the story was on one of the news clips on the Internet early this morning. I think politicians and their so-called fans better get a grip on life. They are all acting like a bunch of crazies. I cannot believe people can’t see through the shenanigans going on. America is being led to the slaughter by all of them. Hell, one of my dogs would be a better POTUS. At least they have comon sense and honor.

        • libertytrain

          I have to agree with you. Your dogs have far more dignity.

  • http://Boblivingstonletter Gottaplenty

    Claire You should learn to ignore such , If this act happened in my neighborhood ,here in ,Arkansas it would more than likely have been done by some liberal to infuriate more liberals against concervatives. I personaly know some with just such an agenda

    • libertytrain

      Claire is very involved in the rights of innocent animals. The animals that did this are not innocent and should be strung up and hung.

      • http://deleted Claire

        libertytrain–Thank you for your comments.

    • http://deleted Claire

      Gottaplenty–I disagree. There is extreme hate being put forth by both parties, NOT just the liberals. I hear hate from both sides. I will never turn my back on an innocent animal. The more I read and see all the hate/evil humans cause, I am beginning to like animals more. Animals are at the mercy of human beings and there is NO excuse to take vengeance out on an animal. This is the coward’s way out, the heinous act of a sick person.

      • http://deleted Claire

        I will say this–if anyone and I mean anyone did something bad to one of my animals, you can damn well bet I would go after that person and it would not be pretty. I am sick and tired of the creeps in this world.

  • Robert C Peters

    this has become SUCH a corrupt society(and WORLD) We cannot escape it!. It Deserves TO GO DOWN. I don’t pray much-but lately- I have prayed for fruition(REALIZATION) of the MAYAN calender. We CANNOT trust in man…

  • Joseph R Carreiro Sr

    With 10 Months to go until the 2012 election there is still time for either Hugh surprises or a miracle that will keep the big O to one term. He said it himself.”If these problems are not turned around in three years It will be one term” Who are we going to doubt the President of the United States at his own words. Please think about it.

  • Christin

    Bob Livingston,

    This is one of the BEST articles you have written… and there are many i like. I read this article back when it first came out and now I have found it again through the Ron Paul article you wrote on May 9th, 2012.

    I wanted to send it around so many others would know the power, corruption, and influence the ‘banksters’ have over us and which candidates they fund so that we may make an informed decision during our individual state’s primaries and elections come Nov 2012.

    I particularly wanted to send this to my friend who says anybody, but the current muslim president… now she will know not just anybody will do.

    Thanks so much for being the voice of FREEDOM and informing us all.

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