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The 1½ Cent Healthcare For Recessionary Times

April 22, 2010 by  

The 1½ Cent Healthcare For Recessionary Times

Now that the healthcare reform bill has been signed into law, and Americans are justifiably worried that health insurance premiums will increase, there is a 1½ cent answer to rising premiums.

We’ve all been told that the new healthcare reform law was supposed to lower insurance premiums by 14 percent to 20 percent—thereby making health insurance more affordable for everyone. But if you check the fine print reduced insurance premiums apply only to those who decide they want to keep the low-value, “skimpier” kinds of policies.

The general consensus is that the new law virtually guarantees that health insurance premiums will rise even more—instead of becoming more affordable. The Congressional Budget Office itself stated that insurance premiums for people buying their own coverage would go up by an average of 10 percent to 13 percent.
 
Based on the forecasts of other analysts, premiums will rise even higher—to the tune of 30 percent to 45 percent. Imagine what YOU would be paying if your insurance premiums increased by that much.
 
Americans are sharply divided on the new healthcare law, but one thing is for certain: Many provisions in the healthcare law carry with them serious consequences. And we won’t know their full effect until the provisions start in the year 2014.

For instance, the law cuts Medicare by $500 billion, and 10 million seniors who get their coverage through Medicare Advantage’s private plans (about 22 percent of Medicare enrollees) will be stripped of their coverage… or will have their Medicare benefits reduced.

But that may not matter much because the Obama administration itself has forecast that Medicare—the trust fund that pays hospital bills for elderly Americans—is expected to run out of money in 2017. Many believe that Medicare is already broke now—and that unbeknownst to the American public, the government has begun using the general Federal tax funds to pay for senior citizens’ Medicare benefits.

What’s even more alarming is that according to many sources, the Social Security trust fund, which has been forecasted to completely run out of money in 2037, is already running a deficit. And there’s no telling how long the government will be able to continue providing Social Security benefits and services.

One glaring aspect that’s missing in the new healthcare law is that nothing has been done to fix the double-digit upward spiral in healthcare costs… and that in itself is a recipe for disaster.

What would we do if there comes a time when we can no longer rely on Medicare and Social Security? And what if you’re a senior citizen who’s already SICK … and you have no income to pay for healthcare? What would happen if doctors and hospitals turned you away at the door because they have no assurance they’ll get paid for services that they’ll provide you?

It’s a terrifying thought… but one that every American over the age of 40 must consider and find a solution for.

In the coming years, average citizens can never be sure that their future healthcare needs will be met. Neither will they have any control as to whether or not they will receive healthcare benefits from the government… or how much insurance they will have to pay.

The only thing they can exercise control over is their health.

This begs the question: What good is health insurance anyway—even if you could afford the premiums? Having adequate health insurance (or being covered by public healthcare) only means that the cost of your medical care will be covered in the event that you get sick. Wouldn’t it be infinitely better if you didn’t get sick at all?

There is a simple therapy used by 15,000 European health practitioners to heal millions of patients of virtually all diseases. This therapy has been used successfully for more than 170 years, and could be the best way to ensure your good health, especially in these uncertain economic times. It also protects you against rising health insurance premiums, and will keep you from having to rely on a healthcare system that may not adequately cover your needs.

This scientifically proven therapy, which involves the use of a natural oxygenating substance, creates an environment within the body where disease cannot thrive. This then enables the body to cure itself of practically any disease. For instance, studies have shown that cancerous tumors shrink in the presence of this natural oxygenating substance, and this substance inhibits the growth of other tumors and disease tissues as well.

One reason healthcare costs continue to escalate out of control is that current medical research is focused on the wrong causes of disease. Some claim that viruses, microbes, germs or harmful bacteria are the cause of cancer, diabetes, heart disease, Alzheimer’s, arthritis and other diseases. Others say it’s the toxins in the food we eat, the air we breathe and the substances we consume. And still others say it’s our genes or stress that cause us to acquire disease.

Because this wide array of theories has proliferated for centuries, the process of “curing” disease—and health maintenance in general—has turned into a complex and expensive proposition. And consequently, health insurance premiums have escalated as well.

Madison Cavanaugh, author of The One-Minute Cure: The Secret to Healing Virtually All Diseases, claims that the primary physical cause of all diseases is linked in one way or another to oxygen deficiency. She says that when the human body is supplied with abundant amounts of oxygen, all cancer cells, viruses, harmful bacteria, toxins, pathogens and disease microorganisms are killed because they cannot survive in a high-oxygen environment.

The natural therapy she recommends stimulates the movement of oxygen atoms from the bloodstream to the cells to a dramatically greater degree than is usually reached by other means. Because the therapy costs only 1½ cents a day to self-administer at home, it may be the most affordable health insurance anyone can have.

—Danica Collins

Danica Collins

is a natural health journalist and the Managing Editor of The Underground Health Reporter™. She is also the spokesperson for Think-Outside-the-Book Publishing, the publisher of The One-Minute Cure: The Secret to Healing Virtually All Diseases, which reveals the scientifically proven therapy that creates a condition in the body that is uninhabitable by disease.

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  • s c

    My research shows basically the same thing as Danica’s comments. That is, while we are occasionally blessed with elements of good healthcare (no thanks to people like Obummer), Americans also endure the whims of anti-science groups that include the AMA, the FDA and Big Pharma. These misguided groups pillage and plunder us on a regular basis, and do a good job of leaving us destitute and in ill health (the fuhrer always knows what’s best). These anti-choice, anti-science, anti-American pretenders don’t control our oxygen intake.
    And, at the rate of 1 1/2 cents a day, it puts Obummer in his place and won’t increase our heathcare costs (regardless of how much he ‘cares).
    Et tu, Obummer. May you feast on what you dish out. And may that banquet be served COLD.

    • Fed Up Gal in NM

      SC,

      What about melanoma? The article seems to indicate this treatment will work for any disease, so just thought I’d see if you might have some information or research on it’s success rate for melanoma treatment….and at what stage of cancer would it not be appropriate (if any)? Thanks for any feedback you can offer.

      • s c

        Haven’t heard about using hydrogen peroxide for melanoma. Hemp oil may have possibilities. There is a skin cream that might help, but I can’t recall the name. Please realize that anything that is successful will attract the attention of those who have much to lose from any ‘competition.’
        Some other readers may be more helpful. Also, check with some of Livingston’s health panel members.

        • Fed Up Gal in NM

          SC,

          Thank you! I appreciate your response.

      • Colin Cody

        Dr. Tulio Simoncini has a cancer clinic in Rome, Italy, where he has been curing nearly all forms of cancer for over 30 years. You can find information about him at http://www.cancerfungus.com. He has a cure for melanoma that works without side effects and without damaging your immune system. The only kinds of cancer he cannot cure with his highly innovative methods are some types of brain cancer and all bone cancers. He has written a book you will probably want to read and his clinic can be contacted by email and phone.

        From what I have read, using home-made hemp oil looks to be a great cure all (including all cancers) and anti-aging tool. Check out http://www.PhoenixTears.com for information about this. My theory is that it greatly speeds up our body’s natural regenerating ability and thus reverses the aging and degenerative process to rid us of disease.

        Taking a combination of Quercetin and Resveratol is said by Life Extension Foundation (lef.org) magazine (April 2009) to be a powerful protection against all kinds of disease and the obesity that sets us up for many physical problems. The health benefits are profound and much too numerous to list. Getting a free subscription to their magazine would be supremely wise. Becoming a member would be even smarter.

        Take the highest quality whey protein, Summa, Chromate, Glutamine and Creatine immediately after serious exercise for the greatly improved strength we will all need in order to avoid becoming labeled as “useless eaters” whom the Marxists now in control so despise. Those of us who were alive during WWII know what they intend doing with people like that.

        I like Dr. Jordan Rubin’s books on health. Get his last few books, and “Max Contraction Training” on exercise and Life Extension Foundation’s back issue literature for the last several years and you will know vastly more about preventive health care than does almost any alopathic doctor in the nation. Other than unused and soon to be gone Medicare, I have and will have no regular medical insurance because I am highly unlikely to become sick and need it. If I get hit by a car, I can always fly to Taiwan or India for inexpensive, highly competent repairs, and you can do the same.

        May I recommend that we all get started on these things yesterday if not sooner. It takes some time to get a good individualized personal health system running smoothly and the body strong and healthy. But never fear, the protocol will work if we work the protocol. I, for instance, am 75 and healthier than most people half my age (also much better looking and smarter, thank God). Even if we eventually must immigrate to another country, our future is still bright if we prepare wisely and keep our wits about us. Never forget that life is supposed to be an adventure.

        • Mike In MI

          Hey Colin – Good advice and well written. (I’m getting so I don’t even waste my time trying to read poorly composed, unreasonable, hastily written and unpunctuated posts. I figure I probably do not understand what the person is trying to relate anyway. All that does is breed rancor, misunderstandings and useless, argumentative wrangling. If one can’t be clear I won’t be bothered.)

          Anyway, Colin, (you forgot to mention) one of Bill Falloon’s best ideas that the Life Extension folks extend to their members is access to a group of health advisors for free ($0.00). Their purpose is to answer health and nutrition questions submitted by members over the phone, on-line or by U.S. mail or refer you to some one who can answer. Its really hard to beat. It’s better than BOMB’R’Care by a damn sight. Life Extension advisors sure don’t snd you to a Death Panel.

          • Colin Cody

            Good word Mike. Another thing I forgot to mention was how extremely insightful are the writings of Dr. Nicolas Perricone. His ideas on super low level inflammation as being the cause of much major disease and many extra pounds on our little round bodies are absolutely at the heart of these issues and ignored at our own peril. His approach is simple yet profound, and he is the world’s leading advocate of eating lots of wild caught samon, taking lots of Omega 3 fatty acid and taking lots of alpha lipoic acid–good and great man.

            Thanks for your kind comments about my writing. I have always thought more in terms of images as an artist and in emotions an an actor, and as a singer and as a comic entertainer than in terms of stand alone words, so writing has never been easy for me. Without the Holy Spirit’s help, I could not feature myself being able to do it at all.

      • libertytrain

        Fed Up – somewhere I read something about baking soda and honey made into a paste for melanoma – I don’t recall if it was here or somewhere else.

        • Colin Cody

          Some people cook baking soda (the kind without aluminum) with maple syrup or honey for five minutes and then, after letting it cool, take it by mouth for any kind of cancer. Cancer is actually a sugar loving fungus that accepts the syrup or honey as food. However, the baking soda combination (chelation?) is highly alkaline and thus poisons the acid ph fungus big time. It would make good sense to apply that combination to skin cancer daily with a bandage over it for protection.

          Dr. Simoncini kills skin cancer using mainly iodine and it has been proven effective. Perhaps these two therapies could be used in a powerful combination.

          • Fed Up Gal in NM

            LT / Colin Cody,

            Thanks for the additional info. I’m forwarding this article to him every few days, so it will hopefully nudge him into reviewing the new posts and doing more research. Thanks again!

          • Fed Up Gal in NM

            My 25 Apr, 1:19pm posts was meant for Mike in MI and JM also. Thank you both.

      • J. M.

        Fed up Gal in NM
        Please allow me to first give you some background on myself. I’m a 71 year old male survivor of throat cancer stage 4 treated in 2006 with chemo and radiation. I later learned I had a mass in lung, COPD and emphezema. I started the home therapy just over 2 months ago and have some amazing results. The chemo had all but destroyed my immune system, my energy level, depression, and general outlook on life improved. A CT scan of lung 3 weeks ago showed a noticable reduction of size of mass. My hair is even returning to it’s natural color. My bad cholestrol was 218 and is now 180 without the statin drugs I had taken. A recent visit to my ENT spc. who did a scope of throat assures me everything looks wonderful. I also had a PET scan from chin to hips and it was all negative. I shared the book with friends and presently 8 others are doing home therapy, all with positive results from energy level,alergies, to skin cancer (non- melanoma). In that case the individual had surgery last year for a removal of same on face and was about to schedule a surgery for the ear. It was a spot about 1/2 the size of a dime. We mixed a 3% solution and he moisened a Q-tip and put a dab on it once a day, now 5 weeks later it’s gone and fresh new pink tissue has replaced it, a totally normal ear. Incidentialy he also does the drops of 35% in distilled water 3 times a day. You’ll have to read Madison’s book to fully understand how it helps the body to fight anything foreign in body including transplanted organs. Get a copy and read, usually one finds this as a last resort when it should be done throughout life to avoid illness. Good Luck J.M.

      • J. M.

        Fed UP Gal in NM
        I’d like to add, the book lists cures of virtually all desieses and bad bacteriera including paracites. If you check yellow pages in many cities you’ll find M.D.s listed under Alternative Medicine who do the oxydation Therapy. I know of one who draws a pint of your blood adds Oxygen and returns it into your body. I know there are more around but have to stay under radar of AMA. I’ll add this site to my favorites and check back.
        God Bless, J.M.

        • Fed Up Gal in NM

          OMGoodness! So many thoughtful suggestions; thank you all.

          I have a friend who has melanoma and has decided to not continue with chemo treatments. His doctors have said there’s nothing else they can do (except the chemo)…and he is not willing to continue. He’s in his late 50′s (single parent) with 2 children still at home….so I’m hoping I can relay some positive, alternative treatments to him. I’m concerned that he may not try anything new, since I get the feeling he feels it’s all futile at this point.

          I will forward him this article, in hopes he will read it and all the helpful posts with an open mind.

          Please, please…..pray for cure for my dear friend.

          • libertytrain

            Fed Up – will do, poor fellow is probably very depressed as well. So much info out there if he had the will to look.

          • Fed Up Gal in NM

            LT,

            Thank you for your prayers. Yes, I think you’re right (about the depression). He puts on a good front…but I believe he’s suffering immensely (both physically and emotionally now). He has sole custody of his children (that says a lot about him I think). I’m trying not to intrude into his personal life [decisions], but I find myself becoming somewhat angry that he seems to be giving up.

            I know he loves his children, but sometimes I want to say to him…”What are you doing? Don’t you want to keep on trying…no matter what….if not for yourself, for your children you’ve so lovingly fought for?”

            Both children are under the age of 18 and one is around 6 years old. I believe they both need him to at least try.

          • libertytrain

            Fed Up – that’s horrible — the kids are too young.

          • Mike In MI

            Fed Up Gal in NM -

            OK – My good God, this friend of yours with melanoma, what blessed person to have a pal like you.
            Let’s see, where to begin? Get another friend and take him out for a walk through a green(-ish, in New Mex.) area to get him moving and his mind off his problem. Get some recorded comics to play on whatever technology devise he has that is funny, some comedian he enjoys. Jerry Sienfeld is upbeat, Jeff Foxworthy, Larry the Cableguy, Bill Engvald, Bill Cosby, etc, – nobody dour, dark or heavy. Anything to get him laughing and out of the funk.
            Be his Support Group (but don’t take him to a support group – most of them focus on yukky matters), feed him (put it in his mouth if you must) dark green veggies, raspberries, grapes, apples, RAW potatoes, unpolished rices and black (pinto or kidney) beans in soups or bean salads – no preprepared or box foods.
            Convince him you and other friends need him around because of… whatever reasons. Help him discover reasons to live. Teach him to command his immune system hunter-killer cells to get up and get off their butts and do the job he hired them for (every day).
            Tell him about a/the guy you know who is indomitable. Don’t give this person a name – let him figure out your memories are of him.

            That should be a few things to get you started. You think of more.

          • libertytrain

            Mike – what an excellent post – let’s hope he find his way back -

          • Fed Up Gal in NM

            Mike in MI,

            Wow! I don’t what to say to your post, except….Thank you, so much. My friend is kind of a loner, so he doesn’t have a circle of friends. He doesn’t live in the same town as myself, so force-feeding (LoL) probably won’t be a very viable option, but you certainly kicked my brain (and butt) out of the “Pity” mode and into the “Doing” mode…so your comments were very helpful and very well-received.

            We do work close by, so I think I might try and be a better friend by encouraging him to walk with me during lunch (at a nearby park), and make some health-friendly meals in my new digital pressure cooker to share with him….although I must admit he’s a pretty good “chef” himself, so I may not be able to compete…lol funny….Thank God for the gift of humor!

            Thanks again Mike, for sharing your thoughts and suggestions with me; I am appreciative.

          • Colin Cody

            I hear that Omega 3 fatty acid is good for depression and many other things. I take it daily and have done so for many years. Were I in his situation, I would take three capsules with each meal. Intense but short duration exercise will help a lot also–weight training and sprinting if he is healthy enough. Find a book for him explaining how to stimulate saratonin in his brain. I have one (a brain and a book) but can’t find it (the book or the brain) right now, so, I can’t help you with that.

            Then try to motivate him to go to http://www.cancerfungus.com to learn about the work of Dr. Tulio Simoncini, the greatest oncologist in the world. Who knows, he might decide to have a great vacation in Italy and cure his cancer at the same time. What a pleasant thought (the vacation in Italy and the easy, inexpensive cancer cure).

          • Fed Up Gal in NM

            Colin Cody,

            Thank you for the additional information. My friend promised me, he will read the article and the posts. We’re supposed to start walking during lunch tomorrow….so we’ll see how it goes. I think it’s a positive step in the right direction. Thanks again.

      • momof4

        Hi Fed Up Girl,
        Sorry to hear about your friend. I myself was diagnoised 16 years ago with melanoma and buy the grace of God I am still here. My father was just diagnoised 2 years ago, his was far more serious then mine mine was a mole they removed it, it had not invaded much tissue or spread to organs. But my dad’s was found when he had when he had emergency surgery to remove a bowel obstruction. They had no idea where it came from no mole or anything. Very strange. then last summer they discovered a spot on his liver, they did a needle biopsy and discovered that it was a melanoma but inactive. He was very lucky if you believe in luck I myself believe God did it with so many praying for him. He went to a Melanoma center of excellance the DR. told him that melanoma is one of the cancers that sometimes the immune system will kick in and stop the melanoma. Never lose hope and never give up. And I will be praying for your friend.

    • john

      so not supose to stup to name calling and all that and I can see at least 3 differnt ways of calling Obama some name….so wheres the moderator… or is it a repulatard on the other end?

  • http://www.personalliberty.com/news/pediatric-patients-with-chronic-pain-look-to-acupuncture-19609231/ James A Graham

    The Truth About the Health Care Bills – Michael Connelly, Ret. Constitutional Attorney

    Well, I have done it! I have read the entire text of proposed House Bill 3200: The Affordable Health Care Choices Act of 2009. I studied it with particular emphasis from my area of expertise, constitutional law. I was frankly concerned that parts of the proposed law that were being discussed might be unconstitutional. What I found was far worse than what I had heard or expected.

    To begin with, much of what has been said about the law and its implications is in fact true, despite what the Democrats and the media are saying. The law does provide for rationing of health care, particularly where senior citizens and other classes of citizens are involved, free health care for illegal immigrants, free abortion services, and probably forced participation in abortions by members of the medical profession.

    The Bill will also eventually force private insurance companies out of business, and put everyone into a government run system. All decisions about personal health care will ultimately be made by federal bureaucrats, and most of them will not be health care professionals. Hospital admissions, payments to physicians, and allocations of necessary medical devices will be strictly controlled by the government.

    However, as scary as all of that is, it just scratches the surface. In fact, I have concluded that this legislation really has no intention of providing affordable health care choices. Instead it is a convenient cover for the most massive transfer of power to the Executive Branch of government that has ever occurred, or even been contemplated If this law or a similar one is adopted, major portions of the Constitution of the United States will effectively have been destroyed.

    The first thing to go will be the masterfully crafted balance of power between the Executive, Legislative, and Judicial branches of the U.S. Government. The Congress will be transferring to the Obama Administration authority in a number of different areas over the lives of the American people, and the businesses they own.

    The irony is that the Congress doesn’t have any authority to legislate in most of those areas to begin with! I defy anyone to read the text of the U.S. Constitution and find any authority granted to the members of Congress to regulate health care.

    This legislation also provides for access, by the appointees of the Obama administration, of all of your personal healthcare direct violation of the specific provisions of the 4th Amendment to the Constitution information, your personal financial information, and the information of your employer, physician, and hospital. All of this is a protecting against unreasonable searches and seizures. You can also forget about the right to privacy. That will have been legislated into oblivion regardless of what the 3rd and 4th Amendments may provide…

    If you decide not to have healthcare insurance, or if you have private insurance that is not deemed acceptable to the Health Choices Administrator appointed by Obama, there will be a tax imposed on you. It is called a tax instead of a fine because of the intent to avoid application of the due process clause of the 5th Amendment. However, that doesn’t work because since there is nothing in the law that allows you to contest or appeal the imposition of the tax, it is definitely depriving someone of property without the due process of law.

    So, there are three of those pesky amendments that the far left hate so much, out the original ten in the Bill of Rights, that are effectively nullified by this law It doesn’t stop there though.

    The 9th Amendment that provides: The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people;

    The 10th Amendment states: The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are preserved to the States respectively, or to the people. Under the provisions of this piece of Congressional handiwork neither the people nor the states are going to have any rights or powers at all in many areas that once were theirs to control.

    I could write many more pages about this legislation, but I think you get the idea. This is not about health care; it is about seizing power and limiting rights… Article 6 of the Constitution requires the members of both houses of Congress to “be bound by oath or affirmation to support the Constitution.” If I was a member of Congress I would not be able to vote for this legislation or anything like it, without feeling I was violating that sacred oath or affirmation. If I voted for it anyway, I would hope the American people would hold me accountable.

    For those who might doubt the nature of this threat, I suggest they consult the source, the US Constitution, and Bill of Rights. There you can see exactly what we are about to have taken from us.

    Michael Connelly
    Retired attorney,
    Constitutional Law Instructor
    Carrollton , Texas

    AFTER HAVING READ THIS, PLEASE FORWARD….

    If you don’t care about our constitution, or your rights under it, just do nothing.

    WE MUST HOLD CONGRESS ACCOUNTABLE BEFORE IT IS TOO LATE.

    • Don Bramlage

      Great post. I wish you were still working.

    • Mark Mieras

      Hello fellow American! I love you all! I, like so many of us am daily sending emails, faxes, phone call to govt officials, signing petitions, etc. and obviously we are just being ignored! What is happening to this country is breaking my heart. This heartbreak I think is part of the tactic. People in apathy do nothing. I refuse to go into apathy! I will fight to have our constitution and bill of rights upheld and honored till my last dying breath if necessary. PLEASE ALL OF YOU KEEP UP AND BE HEARD! LET FREEDOM RING AND EDUCATE THE IGNORANT! MUCH LOVE, MARK MIERAS SACRAMENTO, CA

      • rosina

        Like you, have sent innumerable faxes and emails, even directly to the barmy one himself but to no avail. Have signed just about any petitions that were going and what happened?
        Against the will of most of the Literate Americans, this awful bill was passed.
        These people who think they are superior to us do not even bother to check the faxes and emails I am certain of it.
        They are a disgrace and hopefully we can get rid of them all in November, and start to rescind this dreadful onslaught to out liberties and the Constitution.
        WE MUST NOT FORGET!

      • Mike In MI

        Dear Mark and all reading this knowing God wants His people free -

        Everybody settle down…take a few deep breaths in and out of a paperbag or what ever you need do to get calm…calmer. Think about it for a minute – there’s a difference betwen calm and clam. When you’re not calm you tend to clam up. So quit it and consider something, please. What I would like to say applies to Christians because we have made ourselves part of a solemn and binding covenant between God and us. When we quit fighting with the idea that God could (would and DID) raise Jesus Christ from the dead and decided we wanted him as our lord we were welcomed into a closed corp club. There’s only one way in and somebody is always there taking names and checking ID’s.

        Go read Acts chapter 9 where a guy named Saul was walking from Jerusalem to Damascus. He was going there to round-up all the Christians he could find. He was going to bind them together and return to Jerusalem for trials and punshment – even death.

        In the way he had an encounter that rerouted history. Before this encounter he had become the chief tormenter and persecuter of the Christian sect. He was pursuing the actions expecting his success to elevate him to great prominence in Judaism. No one, then or now, can account for such ambitious hatred turning around and reversing direction without something fabulously, powerfully occurring.

        Saul’s vivid, documented accounts say that the risen Jesus Crist appeared and spoke with him about Saul’s vehement attacks on him, Christ Jesus. Jesus attitude was that Saul was fighting against him, personally, destroying members of his family. Then and there Saul decided it was in his best interest to do something different. So, he did a 180, becoming quickly the great Apostle Paul. Is that stark change?

        Now, apply that to us as members of Christ Jesus’ family today. What is being done in Washington, DC will become similar to Saul (BC) very soon. If you look at what they are doing you should be able to recognize the prelims to persecution in the offing.

        God says He wants us to be free. Free to live Godly and peaceable lives, free to study and speak hs Word, free to steward the good things – spiritual and material – He gives us freely to enjoy. He made the world and all that is in it to bless those who honor, praise and worship Him in spirit and in Truth. Unbelievers are just sucking wind – temporarily.

        My counsel? Don’t wait for the whip to fall on your back. Your witness, your prayers and ACTIVE (not violent) positive responses to God’s moment by moment urgings are of utmost importance. Become familiar with The Contract so you can accurately claim what’s ours on the basis of the policy language. Failure to ask (in the name of Jesus Christ) on the basis of what is written gives you no standing. You can start by citig the record in Acts 9 where the Lord acted to forestall Saul’s attacks on his family. (Somebody had to be expecting God’s help in order to get a response like sending His son to get Saul’s attention.)

        You can do the things that Jesus did and greater things because he went to the Father (John 14:12). Get up and move (wisely and not violently).

        “If God be for us, who can be against us?”

    • DaveH

      James,
      Do you have a link to that article? I would like to bookmark it.

    • Jo

      This post should be sent to all in Congress to read and ask that they explain why they gave our rights away. I challenge if they have a right to give our individual rights away!

    • Janice Lynn Crose

      Thank you for taking the time and energy to read the health care bill and summarize it for us. These are very scary times and we certainly cannot rely on the Feds to help “we, the people.” We had better get down on our knees before the Lord God Almighty and ask Him to help us.

    • Grey Wolf

      Many,many thanks for posting this!

    • Fed Up Gal in NM

      You can be sure, I’ll forward it!

      Thank you!

    • Delores Smith

      Mr. James A. Graham,
      Every move that Obama and his majority party has made since he’s been in office is a “POWER GRAB.” I am not an expert, but I recognize corruption when I see it.
      The fact that you defy anyone to find anything in the Constitution that allows Congress to regulate health care is a positive thing, because you can’t find anything in the United States Constitution that allows the Executive Branch to force Americans to buy health care, or any other product to his liking.
      You addressed the Health Bill and the rights it will take away from Americans. Twenty Attorneys General are taking the Health Bill to court, because it is unconstitutional. The President is guilty of abuse of power, and that IS in the Constitution. He is not governing with the consent of the governed. His next “Power Grab” is financial reform and regulations. Why is he doing all of this?
      I believe Obama is attempting to stir up and anger all groups of people. When we turn the other cheek, he brings out Bertha Lewis of ACORN to state that she is a Socialist. It seems that he is trying to instill fear in us.We’re almost at the polls. Americans are contacting reps in Congress. We love this nation and we will not allow anyone to change our form of government or take away our liberties.
      Delores Smith
      Delores109@cox.net

    • Colin Cody

      I copied this wonderfully helpful document and edited it in places for clarity and punctuation. I will send it to all my friends since it clearly demonstrates what I have been saying for some time now, and it is important that everyone understand the true nature of this extremely dangerous, bogus “health” law. The totalitarians always gain power over us incrementally by pretending to help us in some way, don’t they?

      We live in interesting times when we are witnessing right before our unbelieving eyes something of enormous importance in history, the internal collapse and utter destruction of a once great nation, our nation, a nation for which hundreds of thousands of brave men and women have given their lives over many years, some of them our relatives. Just to see it happen in slow motion is staggering because most of us thought it would never happen to us–to others in history, yes, but never to us. I wonder how many of our people can see the true nature of what is happening immediately in front of them. How many have eyes to see and ears to hear?

    • Mike In MI

      James Graham – My goodness…
      So much to be thankful for and then somebody like you comes along and shares something like this with us. We’re deeply in your debt.

      Government overwrites, blots out and retires our rights and our Constitution. Do they…no, not do they(?)…but, They do think we can’t smell the dead skunk a half mile ahead on our road. Then, they have the gall to act unnerved, querulous and suspicious when Americans start doing close order drill and going to the range?

  • Lisa Jones

    My insurance ussally increases 30% a year.

    • DaveH

      Lisa,
      Wait until your food costs start increasing 30% a year. Then we’ll all be waking up! Well, maybe not the hopers and dreamers.

      Here we go folks, just like in the Jimmy Carter days. And I think Jimmy will turn out to be a lightweight in comparison to Obama:
      http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Wholesale-prices-rise-in-apf-299827519.html?x=0&sec=topStories&pos=4&asset=&ccode=

      From the above article: “Food prices jumped by 2.4 percent in March”.
      That’s 28% annually if it keeps up.

      • http://?? Joe H.

        DaveH,
        I’m thinking of becoming a liberal. That way when times start to get hard I can go out to my OWN money tree and harvest some to tide me over!!! Now don’t I sound like I’ll make a good one???

        • DaveH

          Unfortunately, Joe, you are right. Governments tend to help their own gang-members first. They will print more money and pay their members more and more, unless, or until, the citizens wise up and throw them out.

        • Fed Up Gal in NM

          DaveH and JoeH,

          Now wait a minute…..I’m gonna get jealous if you both go over to the dark side….lol.

          Where have you both been? Haven’t seen many posts from you lately, but maybe I’ve been posting on different articles. Hope you are both doing well. Keep on keepin’ on! Have a great Friday!

        • BOE

          No Joe…to really gt in on the money grab you have to be black,unwilling to work,unwilling to pay your bills,healthcare,electric bills and oh yeah your house payment that Freedie Mac got you into. Refuse to get off the sofa except to go get the crack that there is always money for. That`s all you have to do and the Obama bank will withdraw money from our bank and deposit into the crack ho welfare ho`s bank acct. Oh .I almost forgot they will send a ATM card to use for food stamps because they complained about having to use the food stamps because…you know everyone in line behind could see they were using food stamps. Aw..ain`t that sad. Damn leeches are draining us hard working folks. We can sell everything we own and go to another country. Better yet Obama jack-ass needs to go back to the jungle where he came from.

          • Fed Up Gal in NM

            BOE,

            Your comments fall on deaf ears (including mine) when you attempt to make such a discussion purely racial. You know very well, blacks are not the only ones on food stamps, welfare, etc. Your either a plant or simply clueless; neither speaks well for you or your comments.

            And……….I’m white, so don’t even think about trying to re-color (no pun intended) your comment.

    • Mike In MI

      Well, Geezey Pete, Lisa, we all are happy for you, understanding from that statement that you must be over-joyed and dancing in the aisles. Given your proclivity to champion Obama-esque left of left liberality and heaped derision normally meted out upon more moderate heads we know you must feel light as a helium balloon.
      Just think how your joyous participatory inclusion in the most daring and over-arching government experiment of all time permits you and your health insurance company the unmitigated honor to raise your ante in serving your fellows in the great cause of humanism. You are pleased…we know. We’ve all seen your posts. We understand how it must irk you to be required to write from left to right, but there are rules in society, you know. Anyway, we’re glad you’re glad. May your payments expand exponentially so your joy can be filled to capacity and blow the hell outa’ here.

    • Mark

      The proposed increase in annual premiums made for THIS Summer by Anthem for California is 39%, and in Georgia Anthem wanted a 35% increase. These increases were proposed BEFORE the recent passage of the Democrat health care reform bill, and will take effect this Summer. Over the last 8 years, my employer-provided health care insurance has gone from $127/mo with no copays or deductible, to $419/mo with a $1500 yearly deductible and 10% copays thereafter, and we are also due for renewal on July 1st too. Plus, in the last 5 years, we have had a wage freeze where I work, plus we lost our Christmas bonus 4 years ago too. But at least my coworkers and I are still working, which sure helps as our grocery bills have risen by 50% just in the last 2 years, and our utility costs have also recently spiked much higher too. And just in the last 17 months, my silver investments have nearly doubled in value against our Dollar too, which leads me to believe that our Dollar is worth about half of what it was worth in December of 2008.

      I am guessing even without the passage of the Democrat health care reform bill, that my coworkers and I are again looking at a substantial increase in our health care insurance premium costs come July 1st, and/or an addition to our annual deductible or our copays. We can’t blame the last 8 years on Obama, nor can anyone suggest that this Summer’s already proposed increases in health care insurance premiums are the Democrat’s fault either. Without some kind of health care reform being passed, there was no reason to suspect that this year, next year, or anytime soon in the future that the annual increase in health care insurance premiums was going to subside in what has been a terrible annual rate of increase for some years now. It was this ongoing 30% annual increase in costs that was making our products non-competitive in the world markets just as much as our higher wage costs and even various environmental protection legislation that doesn’t affect much of the 2nd or 3rd world either.

      I’ve got an idea!!! Why don’t we all take a 50% pay cut so that our US-made products can be more competitive worldwide??? Just a few more years of a 30% annual increase in health care insurance, food, and utility coats, and it will be a lot like taking a 50% pay cut, IF the value of the Dollar stays constant against other world currencies. Guess what happens if our Dollar begins to substantially slide in comparison to other major world currencies, as the weight of our crippling national debt and annual debt service continues to take an ever-larger bite out of total available income???

      If you buy 10 ounces of Silver bullion per week, how many ounces of Silver will you have in 5 years, and how much will it be worth then???

      • http://?? Joe H.

        Mark,
        That depends on if there is a U.S. left! If the spending by the government isn’t cut by at the very least by 20% across the board, we are screwed!!! A freeze is nice, but it just isn’t going to do it!!! One way is to stop all unnessesary travel at government expense!! Get rid of N. P-lousy’s jet to and from kalifornia along with her booze bill!! If Obummer wants to go on a date nite, then let him do it in DC! Make sure all cost overruns are indeed cost overruns! GE,a few years back had a government contract and ran into some cost over runs and when the government checked into their almost 3 million in overages they found out that it was due to taking customers to 3 martini lunches and such. they were fined one million and barred from any contracts for a period of like one year. Well, it turned out that GE was the only supplier of the product in the world so the gov had to come back to them with hat in hand and order from them again. So GE made two million in overages and still were able to do contracts!! What a crock!!!

      • Mike In MI

        Mark – “my silver investments have risen about 200%”

        Correction: Your dollars have lost value to the tune of 50%. So, thanks to George and Barry and the accomplished thieves in the House of Reprehensibles and the Sinnit your wage cut already is 50%…and falling as fast as an elephant’s arches.
        And, no!, don’t expect the GDP to grow until the WH quits acting to destroy confidence in the freedom for business to buy machines and tools to make things we want and need. If there is no capital available there can’t be any capitalists and nobody is going to get anything worthwhile out of a pauper. Just ask Barry’s friends in line at the Welfare Drive Thru.

      • George E

        Mark,

        Unfortunately, I don’t think this healthcare reform law is going to help you very much on keeping costs down. It really does very little in that regard. It does, however, give the government much more power over the healthcare system which may translate in time into higher costs and/or poorer quality and/or availability of healthcare. We do need healthcare reform, but this law probably won’t get us there. The primary reason is that the Democrats refused to debate the subject in any meaningful way with anyone with opposing views, nor did they take time to debate it before the American people so the bill could be thoroughly reviewed and cleaned up before becoming law. And, now that we have this law, nothing new will likely occur to fix it until after all the legal challenges have cleared the courts. This one was mismanaged and will ultimately make the situation worse, not better, as many expect and hope.

  • Kent
  • ROBERT

    okay! okay! but just what, then, does Cavanaugh say in his book? Can anybody out there tell me so that I can spend my cent and a half…..or do I really gotta buy the guy´s book?

    • Cribster

      A friend sent the same teaser, I replied by asking what the hell is it?! I’m still have yet to get an answer.

      I’m taking a complete guess that it may be food grade hydrogen peroxide.

      • s c

        Cribster, if she’s talking about food grade hydrogen peroxide, it MUST be diluted before you can safely drink it. I took it for a while (many years ago). I couldn’t tell that it did anything for me, but that was before I realized that it might take a blood test to know that your oxygen level had been increased.
        Anyone who wants to try it doesn’t need my approval. However, if you do buy it, dilute it according to the container’s directions or you will live to regret it.

        • patrick H.T. paine

          This is quite clearly H2O2 treatment, unfortunately, no
          statistically significant results exist for oral ingestation,
          food grade or otherwise.

          This not true, however for intravenous treatments, which
          are extremely potent, and where the effects, especially
          on lung tissue, are so dramatic, that the process must
          be stopped to allow the patient to clear all the buildup
          that has been clogging the tiny passages in the lungs,
          from smoking, pollution, etc.

          This therapy has been around for a while, and the original
          materials can be had for free at your local public library.
          There are also clinics available here and there, but the
          extraordinary benefits can not be promoted, since the
          proper clinical studies have not been done, as the cost
          even at this level, is of no benefit, to any of the players
          engaged in the so called, “health care system.”

          A word of caution, because of the invasive nature of this
          treatment, dangers exist….both those associated with this
          type of treatment, as well as other possible side affects
          or interactions, that have to be evaluated on a patient
          by patient basis…….

  • Sid Rodrigue

    This Health-Care Law needs to be reviewed by the Supreme Court and those people who have voted for it in both Houses of Congress must be held accountable by the people who have elected them.

  • BigBadJohn

    from a web review: Sounds like drinking hydrogen peroxide, which I have heard about before.

    The first thing to say about “The One Minute Cure: The Secret to Healing Virtually All Diseases” is that in the Authors own words, “the information herein (meaning the Ebook) is not intended to replace a one-on-one relationship with a doctor or qualified health care professional”. Although, doctors and medical practitioners throughout Europe have been using ingested Oxygen Therapy for many years, in the US, it is still relatively unknown – the reasons of which are made clear throughout the book. Please take heed of the above warning. Ingested Oxygen therapy can be dangerous without due consideration for the correct doses of hydrogen peroxide etc, or consideration of current medical conditions. Indeed, the whole subject concerning food grade hydrogen peroxide for curing disease is fraught with controversy!

    • Flynn

      Yes! Oxygen therapy may have a tendency to reduce and heal many diseases, but it also increases the aging process. It makes the ole body wear out faster. What benefit is it to be disease free, if our life expectancy is reduced to 10 dog years. Oxygen may be a life sustaining element, but it is also a very toxic one.

      • Mike In MI

        Flynn, Go check your Bio- and Organic Chem. book again.

        Get an understanding of the difference between organic free-oxygen radicals and bound and controlled oxygenation of appropriate molecules and tissues.
        Then come back and apologize to the people for being a chemistry liberal.

      • J. M.

        Flynn,Flynn,
        You’re not sucking it out of a tank in huge quanities, 3 drops in 8ozs of distilled water. It actually reverses aging process. And Yes I put 1 drop in my little Yorkie’s water. The world is toxic, try something Pure.

        • (Wondering Woman)

          Hello Mike, JM and Flynn,

          Couldn’t resist jumping into your discussions. Cheaper sources of 35% grade of H202 can be found on line. Having a stomach that protests when I tried ingesting it, even when reduced to 3 to 3.5%
          strength (instructions for reducing strength can be found on line also), I just buy a quart of the 35% food grade, reduce a small amount of it to 3.5% as needed (store the rest in the freezer until needed), and use the inhalation method for which you will need a device to produce a fine mist spray to aim at the back of your throat while inhaling. Since I am inhaling it, my stomach does not complain as it did when I ingested it. So far my lungs have registered no complaints to my inhaling it. Since it hits your bloodstream faster through the lungs than it does through the stomach, it should work pretty much the same as finding someone to give it to you IV, as it is not being further diluted by passing through the stomach. I tried this after reading of someone curing his lung cancer with the inhalation method and he is still using it without harm 13 years later. I never argue with success, neither do I buy into everything that someone is trying to sell us. The guy who shared this helpful bit of information free (no book or product to buy) was still using the drug store variety, but since most recommendations are to use the food grade because the drug store grade for external use contain stabilizers, I opt for the food grade because it contains no stabilizers, and I figure we get enough toxins from fluoride in tooth paste and many public water supplies, and plenty more from our food chain since the FDA seems to be more interested in money than they are in removing excitotoxins from our foods.

          Speaking of toxins, have you read about the chemical reaction between vitamin C and preservative sodium benzoate. I think it was on Dr. Mercola’s site. I question the statement about sodium benzoate being safe for consumption by itself, but find no problem with believing that a chemical reaction occurs when you add vitamin C that converts the sodium benzoate back into the benzene (from whence it came). Now all you carbonated beverage drinkers go read the ingredients on your drink containers in your homes. When I typed benzene into the search window, one of the biggies it causes is cancer of the kidneys. Having a couple of family members with the problem (hope it remains a couple instead of skyrocketing). I personally stopped drinking them in the 60′s because of a belief that they damaged kidneys. From personal observations while working in the health field I became convinced in the 70′s that they destroyed the kidneys. After reading this article in 2009 or 2010, I finally understand how they destroy them. If you are ingesting the diet carbonated beverages containing MSG or aspartame, you are destroying the entire body, not just your kidneys, as they are the two major excitotoxins in our foods.

          • Mike In MI

            WOWWEE, Wonder(ing) Woman, zHot, pow, OBamalO -

            Gaowlee Soargint, cain I have NOTHR’NA THIM HAPPY MEALS? Uh, an’ Souper! saizit, too. O-oo yah, an’ gimme a laorge COKE.

            It’s a wonder half the world’s kidneys aren’t drooping through their bladders. Thanx for sharing that.

    • Mike In MI

      BBJ, et al… Go to a good health food store.

      Dimethylglycine (die’ -me -thil -glie -seen) and Trimethylglycine, (pronounced the same except it starts with “try” instead of “Die”) are quite readily available. It is effective when used as directed, is harmless, produces no side effects and accomplishes the same goal. It is a bit more expensive but you aren’t poking around in veins or needing to do lab chemistry. You can carry it in your pocket without looking like you just did a dirty. Take some folate and Vitamin B12 with it and do yourself a double favor.

    • J. M.

      BBJohn,
      What you read in the book is simply a Disclaimer to protect her from a law suit society. Of course it’s dangerous if not used properly. I’ve read the 113 page book more than 10 times and print out info for friends who wish to use it making sure they fully understand and have them read my hard copy. In your research you’ll learn FDA hampered studies in favor of Big Pharma’s release of AIDS new drug AZT in 86 or 87. Follow the bucks and you should see why 1 1/2 cents is being kept as quiet as they can. It is truly a threat to many industries.

  • Bob

    She is so correct, I just received my insuerance rate increase, thank you Congress and Obama! It wasn’t a hughe increase under a $1,000 a year, but when you are living on a fixed income – Retired – with what Social Security is paying out and what the economy , thank you Congress, has done to my retirement funds that is a lot of food that I now can’t buy and keep my health care going. Oh, and the promise for higher rates goes on too. I just don’t know what we would have done if the government had listen to the people and not passed their Health Care take-over bill. Why we might not have had an increase in our rates and that would have left us with way too much money to spend on other things like food snf shelter.

    • Mike In MI

      Dear Bob, I know what you mean, too, my friend. And I’m not even fully retired!
      Gosh, listening to you (me) anyone might think you (we) believe you have chains or a straight-jacket on. Now, how can that be? Obama, Nancy and Harry promised everybody freedom. Freedom from want, freedom to move, act and live – happy, light and gay as a little bird. All we have to do is spread our wings and F-F-L-L-l-Y-Y-Y-y-y. Dammit, who slashed my hamstrings and cut my primary feathers?

      Oh well, let’s play another game of Monopoly. At least we are still free to pretend there is something like money to spend. (Damn this ball and chain keeps wrapping around the leg of this stupid chair.)

      • Save America Susie

        Our Grandchildren or Great Grandchildren will be living on the barter system per chance….Yes, and it wasn’t “Change” BO promised, it was “Chains”! God give us courage!

        • Mike In MI

          S.A.S. – Now, that’s really funny, you gotta’ admit, That’s REALLY funny.

          That’s why Barry feels so misunderstood? Everybody thought he was sayin’ something else when all the time it was “Hope in chains”? Guess the yoke is on us, eh?

  • mary

    HELLOOOO…anybody here live in the real world? insurance rates go up EVERY YEAR…regular insurance and medigap. what’s wrong with you people. you must all get your insurance from companies that pay half of it. you don’t notice the increase so much then.

    why does it seem the livingston letter is always selling something?
    i bought some ‘books’ and other reading material. a rip off..

    • BigBadJohn

      “why does it seem the livingston letter is always selling something?
      i bought some ‘books’ and other reading material. a rip off..”

      Always sending stock recommendations also but if you track them they all seem to be “pump and dump”. Livingston is being paid to hype the stock so someone who already owns, it can dump it at a profit…

    • http://www.boblivingstonletter.com/ Bob Livingston

      Dear mary,

      If you bought one of my products and are unhappy I am sorry. I urge you to avail yourself of the lifetime money-back guarantee of satisfaction that was promised with the original offer. You don’t even have to return anything. Just contact customer service through the avenues listed in your original materials.

      All the best,
      Bob

      • Fed Up Gal in NM

        Bob,

        I’ve got to give you a lot of credit. That is a very professional, polite and respectful response to Mary (and by default to BBJ). I hope they both feel as sorry as they appear in their posts.

        • http://?? Joe H.

          Fed Up Gal,
          I can feel the heat from their red faces clear up here in Ohio!!!! right through my computer!!! Darn, I’ll bet they feel real warm right now!!! AS THEY SHOULD!!!

          • Fed Up Gal in NM

            Joe H,

            Oh well….it’s a dirty job sometimes, but somebody’s gotta point out the obvious from time to time. Just sorry I had to do it.

      • Delores Smith

        BOB LIVINGSTON,
        I AM HAVING A PROBLEM WITH MY COMPUTER’S SECURITY. IS THERE AN OFFICE NUMBER WHERE I COULD CALL YOU. I WOULD LIKE TO BUY YOUR NEWSLETTER, BUT I’M NOT PUTTING MY CREDIT CARD ON MY COMPUTER FOR SECURITY REASONS.
        Delores Smith
        Delores109@cox.net

        • http://www.personalliberty.com/contact-us/ Personal Liberty Support

          Delores,
          You can call customer service at 1-800-236-9115. Someone will be available to take your call until 7 p.m. central time.
          Thanks.

    • Save America Susie

      Mary, I am one of those “rare birds” who doesn’t have insurance! I paid for my recent open surgery (2 years ago) with CASH, imagine that! But the hospital gave me a 1/3 off discount because it was CASH. My husband & I dropped our Blue Cross years ago becasu eit was breaking us! And by calculation, we can prove we have saved money by dropping it, even with my surgery! We are generally healthy even in our 60′s. So NOT everyone wants on board this crazy band wagon. I would rather be FREE, and pay CASH for my medical, than in CHAINS and on the OBAMA CARE WAGON.

      • DaveH

        Susie,
        I agree. It amazes me that people think adding middle-men to the process could do anything but cost more. And on top of that, those middle-men then assume the right to interfere with your healthcare choices.
        Here is the real answer to the high costs of healthcare:
        http://mises.org/freemarket_detail.aspx?control=279

        • Mike In MI

          DaveH – Hey, budd, did you go someplace for awhile? I missed your good words.

          Anyway, health insurance moguls don’t need to “assume” they have the right to interfere in health care choices. It is always part of the policy that if you pay the premiums you are buying the right to be refused coverage for anything that is “medically” unnecessary, deemed “experimental”, not within the local “gold standard” of “physician based” care in that area, billed with certain types of red-flagged “diagnosis codes” or “procedure codes” or submitted by practitioners whose names aren’t followwed by MD…along with a whole bunch of oher caveats. By signing on the bottom line you relinquish your rights to use your money for any purpose they and their friends at BigPharma, FDA, other regulatory agencies under the table, AMA, Justice, The Hose of Reprehensibles and Sinnit, AHA, the Allied Health Sciences, Amer. Bar Ass’n and a host of other people deeply concerned that sickness, congenital disorders and mayhem remain a profitable enterpise.

        • Mike In MI

          DaveH – Hey, budd, did you go someplace for awhile? I missed your good words.

          Anyway, health insurance moguls don’t need to “assume” they have the right to interfere in health care choices. It is always part of the policy that if you pay the premiums you are buying the right to be refused coverage for anything that is “medically” unnecessary, deemed “experimental”, not within the local “gold standard” of “physician based” care in that area, billed with certain types of red-flagged “diagnosis codes” or “procedure codes” or submitted by practitioners whose names aren’t followwed by MD…along with a whole bunch of oher caveats. By signing on the bottom line you relinquish your rights to use your money for any purpose they and their friends at BigPharma, FDA, other regulatory agencies under the table, AMA, Justice, The Hose of Reprehensibles and Sinnit, AHA, the Allied Health Sciences, Amer. Bar Ass’n and a host of other people deeply concerned that sickness, congenital disorders and mayhem remain profitable enterpises.

  • Bertha Jones

    I agree with the two gentleman. What is this 1 1/2 cent treatment?
    What is all the secrecy about? Why not share it if you really want to help people?

  • sherri

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    TOPIC: WARNING ABOUT 17.5% FOOD GRADE HYDROGEN PEROXIDE
    I’m concerned about about an advertisement for food grade hydrogen peroxide
    Author: Zepher747 (Post Count: 382)

    Zepher747
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    READ! Before buying ANY hydrogen peroxide called 17.5% food grade

    17.5% hydrogen peroxide is NOT the same as 35% food grade hydrogen peroxide!

    “Food Grade” is a specific legal term. It means the hydrogen peroxide meets strict purity standards set by the United States Department of Agriculture and that it has been physically been laboratory tested by the U.S.D.A. for both purity and concentration so it is safe to use in food processing. The U.S.D.A. only certified 35% and 50% hydrogen peroxide. Only 35% is available to the public. There is no such thing as 17.5% food grade hydrogen peroxide.

    That is why for decades every expert and author on hydrogen peroxide usage specifically recommends 35% food grade hydrogen peroxide. Because it mets a specific legal definition and is certified by official inspection.

    She claims she is watering down 35% food grade to 1/2 its strength to get around her being banned. What does that mean? Why would someone brag on a website by falsely advertising selling 35% on search engines to then try to switch it to 17.5% for what she is actually selling? To brag of tricking people onto her website then trying to sell something watered down at half the strength at twice the price is outrageous.

    Without saying how or where she is getting the water to water it down with (it can only be done with very costly deionized, perfectly distilled water or the h2o2 will decompose to even weaker quickly) even her price is extremely high because it is watered down. Do you believe she only waters it down to half strength? How did she water it down? Tap water? A $39 water filter?

    Because at best it is very watered down to at least half strength, it comes out to her charging over $200 per gallon for something she admits isn’t 35% food grade. Compared that to what real 35% food grade hydrogen peroxide costs at just a fraction of that price for a whole gallon for twice the strength 35%.

    She claims she is endorsed in the book THE ONE MINUTE CURE. Maybe that was just a list of all people advertising 35% food grade and before she was caught and banned. THE ONE MINUTE CURE does NOT recommend buying hydrogen peroxide that someone is watering down at least 100% out of a garden hose of tap water thinking this is an end-run around being banned. THIS ENDANGERS YOUR HEALTH! BIG TIME!!

    If the One Minute Cure publishes again they should update their list. If not the author could be liable for injury as the author does receive a provide from sales of the e-book from a website the author is sending people to. Hydrogen peroxide that is not food grade contains poisons and cancer-causing agents in a list of chemicals to long to even list. Selling a health book recommending a supplier who in return sells the book and that supplier is possibly selling bottles of industrial grade meaning it has cyanide, arsenic, lead, mercury, and even potentially pesticides if recycled from industrial use would seem to cause liabilities because there is a profit motive of the author to make the recommendation – selling the author’s books in a quid pro quo agreement.

    Sadly there’s not much any of us can really do about people trying to do scams regarding chemicals sales online. Scams on the Internet are all to easy and common. All we can do is warn people.It takes months to get officials involved and to finally act.

    Check it out for yourself. Here’s how:

    HOW TO VERIFY FALSE ADVERTISING YOURSELF:
    Please do this so you know this warning is true.

    The person goes by “Rebekah”

    Go to GOOGLE (enter “google” in your search engine):
    Search these words “35% food grade hydrogen peroxide”
    Then click on the paid advertising (sponsored) listing stating “one minute cure” or “Rebekah”

    What happened to the advertising 35%? What you will see is a website switching instead 17.5%. When I put this up there was no customer
    contact phone number. Mostly, you did a search for 35% food grade hydrogen peroxide and then you bait and switched you to 17.5%

    NOW TRY MSN (just search “MSN”):
    Search “35% food grade hydrogen peroxide” on MSN. You’ll see a paid advertisement (sponsored) ad with the words “one minute cure” or “Rebekah” saying she specifically is selling 35%. Click on it. Are you taken to a page selling 35%? No. Bait and switch to 17.5%

    GO TO YAHOO:
    Search “35% food grade hydrogen peroxide” on Yahoo and again a listing with “one minute cure” or “Rebekah.” Again it isn’t
    35% and switches to 17.5% being claimed.

    Do the same on AOL, Lycos, and Alta Vista searches. Be sure. Search in the same method.

    THEN DO THE MATH ABOUT THE REAL PRICE!:
    She offers 1 quart of 17.5% hydrogen peroxide for $26.99. 1 quart of 17.5% concentration equals 1 pint of 35% food grade hydrogen peroxide in concentration. There are EIGHT pints in a gallon. That’s $215.92 PER GALLON! (Or $11,875.60 per 55 gallon drum! A drum of industrial grade hydrogen peroxide costs less than $200 so she is making almost pure profit off anyone who falls for this!!) (And it isn’t even 35% whatever-grade-she’s-selling.)

    You can buy an entire gallon of 35% food grade hydrogen peroxide from ANY legitimate merchant or company from $50 to $100 at the most and that includes shipping.

    HERE’S THE SAD PART:
    Garage sellers and false advertisers work on the numbers. Yes, almost everyone who sees “17.5%” after it advertised on search engines under the search terms of “35% food grade hydrogen peroxide” and also figures the price immediately realized this is all a scam. But scamsters only have to trick 1 or of 100 because their profits are so huge! If she can get away with buying a drum of hydrogen peroxide for a couple hundred dollars, then even water it down 100% and sell it in bottles for $20,000+ – claiming one thing on search engines and the get away with switching to selling 17.5% of whatever it really is sending – she only has to fool 1 out of 100 people to make a fortune.

    Why would you believe the truth of the other things she tries to sell after that?

    U.S.D.A. standards 35% food grade hydrogen peroxide is expensive even if bought in bulk. While many companies supply it, only a very few major corporations manufacture it because of it so tightly government regulated and inspected. Other grades of hydrogen peroxide, whether industrial or recycled, are very cheap to buy in drums and could be deadly to your health and spoil any chemical process. If someone is engaging in false advertising and admitting to tampering with the product in their garage, how do you know what’s in that bottle? Do you feel comfortable that?

    Industrial grades and recycled hydrogen peroxide has terrible stuff it. That doesn’t matter if you’re stripping paint off an old ship or using it in some non-food or health way. But it DOES matter if you are using it for anything related to health or food. Those industrial grades and recycled grades of hydrogen peroxides have heavy metals such as lead and mercury, poisons such as arsenic and cyanide, and whatever other chemicals in them or remaining after usage. It is a massive potential health disaster in the long run.

    Personal comment:

    I really don’t like posting this but there are people who internally consume 35% food grade hydrogen peroxide who are fighting for their health and even their life deciding to use what is talked of in so many materials – specifically 35% food grade hydrogen peroxide. Others use it to prepare food or in chemical processing or mixing where purity matters and contaminates would ruin the results or worse.This type of false advertising bait and switch with a watered down what-ever-it-really-is is VERY dangerous and rediculously over priced even if it were legitimate.

    • Cribster

      Very interesting post sherri, thanks!

    • Flynn

      The bottom line is that, although oxygen is a life sustaining element, it is a very toxic substance. Although it may cure some disease, it also kills; and it reduces life expectancy. Why do you think that dogs only have the life expectancy one-seventh that of a human. It is because dogs must cool themselves by panting. This act, although it does bring down the body temperature, oxygenates the blood big time. This overly oxygenated blood slowly kills the animal.

  • http://www.concordsheetmetal.com Ron Wessels

    My wife and I starting reading the book, which is small and have been sharing the news. A home designer customer told how her father in law was almost dead to the world with disease, in his 80′s, and the grandaughter told me she thought she saw him for the last time. When she saw him a month later and they said it was like nothing was ever wrong, found out what he did and told us, so we bought the book and started reading. It is simple but no money for the Pharma companies Bertha.

  • Mike Berman, Ph.D.

    I have treated myself with homeopathic therapy, using supplements and ingested certain types of foods (low glycemic index, avoiding processed foods and specific foods that cause alergy sensitivities for me) for years. The results that I feel are amazing and I swear by it. The supplements that I would recommed in general to maintain your good health are 1. strong anti-oxidants which protect both the fatty and aqueous parts of your body such 1. mega-doses of vitamin C in different forms of L-ascorbic acid, such as the free acid, magnesium and calcium salts of ascorbate, querciten ascorbate, ascorbic palmatate taken together at greater than 4000 mg/day, I also would be taking all eight forms of the vitamin E class which includes the tocopherals and triacontoenols at 400 to 800 IU/day, I would also be taking about 200 to 400 micrograms/day of selenium, about 5 to 20 mg/day of a combination of iodide and iodine in the form of potassium iodide and elemental iodine combination for your thyroid and stabalizing your lipid profile and protecting your fatty tissue from exess peroxidation which can be a trigger point for the cancer process to start, at least 5000 mg/day of Omega 3 fatty acids in the form of DHA and ECA (fish oils), about 2000 IU/day of vitamin D3 and sometimes higher for people who have bone thinning or do not get enough sunlight exposure, vitamin K1 and K2 at about 500 micrograms/day to offset the effects of Vitamin D which can cause calcium to to end up coating your arterial walls and re-routes the calcium to your bones and other critical metabolic processes, about 1200 mg/day of calcium in the form of calium citrate or lactate, or gluconate, about 600 mg/day of magnesium in the form of the same salts as I mentioned above and ascorbate, take about 200 to 400 mg/day of coenzyme Q10 in the reduced form such as ubiquinol (especially for people who take statin drugs which I disagree taking for anyone), take 200 to 800 mg/day of R-lipoic acid (great anti-oxidant, take about 100 mg/day vit B6,about 1000 to 2000 micrograms/day of vit B12 (in the form of methyl cobalamine under the tongue), about 400 to 800 micrograms/day of natural follic acid(make sure its the natural form not the synthetic forms that are added to processed cereals and grains, about 500 mg/day of the non-flush type of niacin and nicatinamide then eat only foods that agree with you and never take ant-acids if you can help it. This combination should be a pretty good start for most all people in order to maintain their health for a fairly long time without having to go to doctors but I would recommend getting some sort of extensive base line test which test your blood, uring, hair and salivia from a good integrative intern who should be a MD or good reputable ND for various antibodies, inflamation marker proteins such as C-reative protein (should be less than 1), homocysteine (should be less than 6) oxidative LDLs profile and triglycerides) as well as your 25-hydroxy D which reflect reflects how defficient in Vit D3 you are (should be abaout 50 to 90). As a final comment , don’t underestimate the power that iodine has to protect also against cancer, hypothyroidism and high choliesterol and finally, stay away completely from any fluoride or sources that contain fluoride such as tap water since research has shown that fluoride is a powerfull cancer causing substance, a neurotoxin and caused hypothyroidism as well. Finally, stay away from all food additives (glutamates, MSG, casen protein, hydrolized proteins and margerines) and artificial sweeteners do to the fact that these substances are known to be also powerfull neurotoxins. Good luck and good heatlh to all…

  • EltonJ

    The ACORN CEO told a group of young Socialists that they are good to be socialists. But my question is this:

    Can anyone tell me the benefits of BIG GOVERNMENT and TOTALITARIANISM? Really, what are the benefits? What will we give up to have those benefits? What is the Cost and is Big Government worth the cost?

    Can you American Liberal, explain why we should have Big Government and why it justifies the cost of what our Founders had guaranteed?

    • EltonJ

      Can someone write an Article, I don’t care where, about the benefits of Totalitarianism and why we should give up the Constitution for Totalitarianism here in America? Please, I want to know why ACORN and other groups support Big Government. I want to know why Big Government is good for us and I want to know the cost. Educate me. Why is Obama Right and Washington was wrong?

      • kilrntex

        The benefits of socialism are all for lazy, ignorant, no working parasites living off the rest of us. Why they want to change our government is beyond me, showing their stupidity on top of their ignorance. Once they break the rest of us, who will pay their way? Talk about biting the hand that feeds you!

    • EltonJ

      Lets have an honest, healthy debate. Lets get it out in the open. Why should the Few control the Many?

      • s c

        EltonJ, there isn’t enough room here to answer what you want to know. Self-education is the key. It compensates for what passes for ‘education’ in the US. Some people take the time to educate or re-educate themselves on government, economics or puppets who manipulate “leaders.”
        Apostate ‘mainstream’ religion hasn’t yet reared its monstrous head. It is probably the most diabolical part of the equation.
        We’re not obligated to educate anyone who refuses to believe that we have subhuman monsters in our midst. American ‘education’ works, but it works only for string pullers – not us. Keep at it, and keep digging. BTW, it’s Obummer’s masters who pull his strings. His teleprompter addiction will help peel off his mask.

        • Mike In MI

          s c – “Apostate `mainstream’ religion hasn’t yet reared it ugly head”.
          Bulls eye!!! Good grief what great understanding you have!!

          They probably won’t either – raise their hoary heads. They hardly ever do, though they’re always skulking around in the dark, dingy, musty, dusty corners. It was the heads of the denomination during Jesus Christ’s earthly ministry who started the whisperring campaigns, questions about his paternity, saying he did wonders by the power of Beelzebub, came complaining he healed folks on Sabbath, egged on the crowd trying to get Pilate to charge and condemn Jesus and then at Calvary stood around taunting, teasing and railing on Christ as their final act of interference against God.

          Yup, you’re right, throughout history it’s been the top eschelon priests of this or that religion who have been the movers and shakers of the dark and despicable deeds that make men shrink in horror. Religion – - -sfythoo!
          What God accomplished via the life, ministry, passion and resurrection of Jesus Christ…that’s an entirely different sort of deal.

      • (Wondering Woman)

        Elton J, You can get a good start of answering your own question by going to You Tube and typing “The Obama Deception” in their search window and click on the full length version. When you finish watching that one then type “Codex Alimentarius” in their search window and watch a few of the videos on this. If you need further education, go to sites such as Natural Solutions Foundation.com or IMVA (International Medical Veritas Association). You should have a good start on answering that question.

    • JeffH

      Join the Obamacare Class Action Lawsuit

      The purpose of this lawsuit is to reverse Supreme Court precedent related to the Commerce clause and thereby overturn Obamacare. The Supreme Court has historically erred in its interpretation of the Constitutional role of the Federal Government. Recent Supreme Court rulings hint that they may be willing to take another look at Commerce clause precedent. Obamacare is so over reaching and so onerous, that it must either be repealed in Congress or struck down in the courts. We must fight this on both fronts. This is our historic opportunity to reverse America’s trend toward Socialism by overturning this unconstitutional precedent.

      If you are a US citizen and agree with the goal of this lawsuit, please join us. If you have concerns about joining, please review the FAQs for more information. Every person we add strengthens the voice of “We the People”.
      http://www.obamacareclassaction.com/join.php

      • Barb

        Thanks JeffH, I read your link and we signed on! I encourage everyone here to do the same. At least it’s something we can do! I’m tired of not being able to do anything, even if this doesn’t work, it’s still the average American trying!

      • Fed Up Gal in NM

        Hi JeffH,

        Thanks for the link. I’m going to check into it. With my luck, I want be able to do anything since I’m a Federal employee…..hmmmm….times like this I wish I was already retired.

    • Vicki

      Just remember Ben Franklin’s opinion. “Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.”

  • Michelle

    Our insurance premiums went up this year and coverage went down – and we get our insurance through company insurance – CVS/Caremark. Yes, even the pesty drug companies don’t keep costs down for the employees. They claim they didn’t raise the price of the insurance but gave a discount last year. So effectively the same result – an increase in cost no matter how you want to spin it. My daughter faced the same results in a school district – they now have to contribute more to their insurance, but the district claims they aren’t receiving a pay cut. Just another spin.
    However, we have also found a product that seems to work for curing some diseases. We ran across it when trying to find something to help cure a dog of cancer (unfortunately he died before we were able to try it). Recently I came down with a cold and tried the usual over-the-counter stuff, with no results. After 2 days of suffering I decided to try the MMS (Miracle Mineral Solution) we had – and within 6 hours and 2 doses I started feeling much better. Within 24 hours and only 3 doses my cold was gone! While I would not recommend anyone not seek professional medical treatment, I have heard of other cases in which people who faced the “you only have…to live” scenarios and supplemented herbal and natural treatments along with regular medical treatments and are still around today to tell the stories.

  • Tommy Barns

    They want the price of food to go up and then people will be fighting over food and the police will come and put us into FEMA camps. We will be forced to work just to get food. I think they watch me now. I see helocopters over my house all the time. I live along along a interstae and i always see police cars going by and they watxch everything I do. I’m gona soon move to montana.

  • Cribster

    Lot’s of good stuff in this thread.

    You may want to search “apple cider vinegar” and check out all it’s wonderful benifits. It also costs’ next to nothing.

    It’s one of those old timey cure alls that our grandparents used that kind of got lost in the shuffle along the way.

    • sovereign susie

      While I agree that Apple Cider Vinegar is one of those old-fashioed cures-what-ails-you, it is important to get RAW, unfiltered vinegar.
      “Bragg” has raw, unfiltered organic apple cider vinegar, and I’m sure its likely there are other brands, too. (That happens to be a brand available locally.)
      Pasteurization kills the good stuff along with any bad bacteria and ruins its health benefit.

  • Barb

    If you don’t want to buy the book and are concerned about what this Cure is I have another idea that may not cure all but sure makes a difference.
    The sunshine vitamin, Vitamin D-3! It’s amazing how you feel after a couple of weeks! Over the counter and cheap too!

    • http://?? Joe H.

      Barb,
      My Dr. put me on 50,000 units twice a week and I felt a boost in my clarity and energy!! Don’t know if I will need to continue at that dose when I start getting out in the sun more!

  • Warren

    Go to purehealthsystems.com

  • FRANK

    IV E BEEN WATCHING ALL THE NEWS CHANNELS AND INFO ON WHAT IS GOING ON. THE ONLY TRUE NEWS AND HONEST IS FOX. GLENN BECK LEADING OUR COUNTRY OUT OF THE WHOLE I HOPE. BEFORE WE GET TO DEEP THAT IT WILL BE TO LATE. OBUMMA SAYS HE IS GOING TO CHANGE THE CONSTITUATION TO CONFORM TO HIS WANTING. WHICH IS A SOCIALIST AND MARXISM COUNTRY .
    ALL THE DEMS ARE PUSHING TEA PARTYS RACIAL PEOPLE AND ALL THE OTHER NEWS STATIONS ARE USEING THE RACE CARD . IT IS GETTING SO BAD, I FEEL THE PEOPLE WILL START BEING AGAINST EACH OTHER. AND THE RETURN OF THE 60′S WHICH THE DEMS WOULD LIKE TO PUT INTO AFFECT, WOULD HAPPEN. SO ANYONE WHO DONT AGREE WITH OBUMA IS INTO RACISM, WE CANT ALLOW THIS TO HAPPEN TO US . ALL AMERICANS MUST STAND TOGETHER AND NOT ALLOW SUCH LIES TO KEEP GOING . WE ARE ALL ONE ,NOTHING TO DO WITH COLOR,RACE ,GENDA, ETC. SO LETS ALL WAKE UP AND SHOW WE WILL NOT ALLOW THEM TO DIVIDE US AGAINST EACH OTHER. ALMOST EVERY BLACK PERSON INTERVIEWED ON TV NEWS ETC, ALWAYS BRINGS RACE INTO THE MIX. THIS IS OBUMMAS PLAN LETS STOP THIS IN ITS TRACTS TOGETHER ALL PEOPLE.

  • FRANK

    NEW IV E BEEN WATCHING ALL THE NEWS CHANNELS AND INFO ON WHAT IS GOING ON. THE ONLY TRUE NEWS AND HONEST IS FOX. GLENN BECK LEADING OUR COUNTRY OUT OF THE WHOLE I HOPE. BEFORE WE GET TO DEEP THAT IT WILL BE TO LATE. OBUMMA SAYS HE IS GOING TO CHANGE THE CONSTITUATION TO CONFORM TO HIS WANTING. WHICH IS A SOCIALIST AND MARXISM COUNTRY .
    ALL THE DEMS ARE PUSHING TEA PARTYS RACIAL PEOPLE AND ALL THE OTHER NEWS STATIONS ARE USEING THE RACE CARD . IT IS GETTING SO BAD, I FEEL THE PEOPLE WILL START BEING AGAINST EACH OTHER. AND THE RETURN OF THE 60′S WHICH THE DEMS WOULD LIKE TO PUT INTO AFFECT, WOULD HAPPEN. SO ANYONE WHO DONT AGREE WITH OBUMA IS INTO RACISM, WE CANT ALLOW THIS TO HAPPEN TO US . ALL AMERICANS MUST STAND TOGETHER AND NOT ALLOW SUCH LIES TO KEEP GOING . WE ARE ALL ONE ,NOTHING TO DO WITH COLOR,RACE ,GENDA, ETC. SO LETS ALL WAKE UP AND SHOW WE WILL NOT ALLOW THEM TO DIVIDE US AGAINST EACH OTHER. ALMOST EVERY BLACK PERSON INTERVIEWED ON TV NEWS ETC, ALWAYS BRINGS RACE INTO THE MIX. THIS IS OBUMMAS PLAN LETS STOP THIS IN ITS TRACTS TOGETHER ALL PEOPLE.

  • FRANK

    I SENT A REVIEW ABOUT ALL THIS GOING AND IT IS ALL RACISM, THAT IS MADE BY THE DEMS AND THE OTHER NEWS STATIONS . THE ONLY ONE TELLING THE TRUTH IS FOX NEWS. I SAID ALOT IT CAME BACK TO ME DUPLICATED AND NOT PUT IN THE REPLY. THATS WIERD ARE THEY SCREENING THESES REPLYS AND NOT USEING THE ONES THAT ARE BAD FOR OBOMMA??? WILL THEY SHOE THIS ONE ???????

  • OB1KNOB

    Sounds like a lot of people want good health without relying on big government, big pharma, big insurance, etc. Check out http://www.hacres.com. I follow this regimen and have not been sick, not even a cold, in almost ten years.

    • Mike In MI

      OB1K – You do everyone a service with this reference.

      Their leader, George Malkmus, has a truely amazing story of getting healed from a seemingly hopeless cancerous dilemma with foods (which, as a layman, he researched out and applied to himself) and great mental resolve – without medical potions and promotions.
      If you live on the east coast go visit them in Shelby, N. Carolina. Its a fascinating, up-lifting experience and a great way to get a new lease on life, health and total well being. No hype, no hoopla and no oversell. They let truths and facts, their love and concern draw you in, to a more reasonable place in life.

      • http://?? Joe H.

        Mike,
        I’m not trying to question what you say, but all I can picture when I think of that seed and nut and vegetable diet is Uelle Gibbons. That is the kind of diet he ate and that included pine nuts and all. He lived I believe, to be 64 years old. Now my Father ate meat and eggs almost every day of his life and lived to 89. My Mother the same and she died about two months ago at 97. doesn’t bode well for your diet with my mind!!

        • Mike In MI

          Dear Joe H., Sorry to hear your mother fell asleep so short a while ago. The best of comfort, hope and love to you and your tender ones.

          Thanks, Joe H., for a worthy question which deserves explanation. I’ll do my best to answer to the extent I know how today.

          Firstly, Euell Gibbons died from a genetic, autosomal dominant condition called Marfan’s Syndrome. Marfan’s is a connective tissue damaging condition which breaks down or inhibits proper development of the fibrous matrix which holds the body together. It rarely occurs in human populations (about 1 in 3,000 to 5,000 births). In his case Marfan’s resulted in a ruptured aneurysm of the great vessel (the Aorta) exiting the heart carrying blood under high pressure to all the body. The average lifespan of people with Marfan’s Syndrome during Mr. Gibbons’ era was 32 years. It has more recently improved to 61 years if discovered and properly treated from early age. His relatively long, active life in those years (1911 – 1975) might represent a testimony to the value of his dietary choices. He made it to 64 when diagnosing and treating Marfan’s was primitive.

          Your Mom, 97 yrs, (Dad, maybe close in age?) was born a couple of years after Mr. Gibbons. They grew up in the time when our soils still provided high nutrient values to grow healthy animals. If you have healthy, properly nourished animals you have a better potential to have healthy humans from before the point of conception. If it ain’t in the Mom and Dad it can’t be in a fetus. So, the likelihood is good that your Mom and Dad were strong from the get go.

          They grew during an accelerated practical use of good sanitation and hygiene principles. Many authorities see this as much more important than what medical advances occurred then. So, what kind of health providers did they use? I don’t know, but it would be valuable information. Did they grow up in the country or in cities? Did they have access to and use fresh fruits, vegetables, seeds and wild game?

          More than likely they had strong, loving family ties and discipline where ever they grew up. Somehow they had to develop rigorous systems of beliefs and mental traits of strong goal orientation, organized thinking, ordered environs, willingness to “make do with what’s at hand”, a determined “get it done” will power and something like “when we need it God (or something) will provide”. If your Dad was in WWII he probably went through stuff that taught him to set his mind like steel, grit his teeth and push through anything.

          Both of them learned to physically work hard and plan for the future which it seems they achieved in an advanced manner.

          I could go on, but suffice it to say there are principles involved in a long life that sometimes supersede what we put in our mouths -although that is part of the whole picture. Just ask George Malkmus. His story is hard to argue with.

  • Jerry W

    I am retired, and what we have is what we were calling a death panel.

  • Save America Susie

    Thanks to everyone for the internet links of interest! Right now, as I said above in my response to Mary, is that I would rather be FREE & struggle to pay CASH for medical things, than be in chains & on the Obamacare wagon. Unfortunately, I am wondering, will they still take CASH in the future? Some Doctors are starting to refuse CASH & only take insurance cards. Its scary.

  • http://herringtons.home.mindspring.com lighterknot

    Elton J
    I recommend you study Indigenous Tribal literature; many studies are going on now. They seem to be much happier than industrial nations with out all the toys and amenities we enjoy. The tribe is the extended family and a paradigm for political philosophies I don’t need to study I’m the oldest of 14 and have a hands-on experience.

    There is no better government than a democracy with very sensible laws strictly adhered to; not a bunch of frivolous laws folks are not going to live by; such as the blue-laws governing personal morality. You start breaking them and soon it’s the important ones.

    We are not an indigenous people and our diversity has served us well, it has also played hell at maintaining a small government. America is now one of the strangest mixes on earth; political correctness is enforced where manners should prevail, through race relation and gender the smoldering pot requires a monstrous governance and still it’s rather helpless in the confines of constitutional law. I would like to say the best law ever written…but the 200 years has seen more technological change than the 2M after Christ. The constitution is inadequate at covering those changes so lets give our politicians some credit; it takes a fool or a thief to want the job…not to many fools get elected.

    Technology more than human relations have strained the Constitution the advent of nuclear technology and the weapons of mass destruction are not only unconstitutional and a threat to individual freedom…they are a moral disgrace to even think of using. More than any other technical advances – and there’s many. Nuclear weapons force globalization down our throats. A world Government with the ability to enforce peace will be necessary. The UN has no power with out the agreement of nuclear nations.
    People would rather face the Banshee than admit this problem exists; but America as a whole just gave its consent to wage war on a nation they thought might have them. Dose anyone see the hypocrisy in this?

    I think there were more sinister reasons we went to war but no doubt all concern globalization and world dominion.

    If I were a young man I’d go find me a tribe and live close to nature what little is left I don’t like what’s coming I fear it will make totalitarianism look good.

    Your concern is also mine and I have no real answers but HATE between the two parties is exactly what’s necessary for the oligarchy to stay in power.

    • EltonJ

      But its simple, LighterKnot. When we chose to come down here to Earth, we chose freedom over the alternative. Free choice, as our way of figuring out Who We Really Are.

      My question is, is the cost worth the benefits of a Totalitarian government? Is it worth it to give up our freedom to be governed by the State from cradle to grave?

      You say that tribal law is the best government to have. Or a perfect democracy. What is wrong, with say, an Immortal benevolent ruler? Or, what is wrong with a limited representative Republic? Or better yet, what is wrong with say, six billion self governing entities who know the difference between right and wrong?

      What makes a big government better than limited government, or no government?

      • s c

        Maybe you need to answer some of your own questions,
        EltonJ. As for a benevolent leader, that path is a set-up (via ‘peace and security’). When it comes to absolute power, there is no such thing as a benevolent leader (World Teacher, etc.).
        When it comes to a spiritual leader, there’s God and the enemy. That matter is on the horizon, and apostate religions are biding their time so they can divide and try to conquer.
        Dig deeper, EltonJ.

      • George E

        Here’s an interesting tutorial that may help to answer some of your questions. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j7M-7LkvcVw

        • Fed Up Gal in NM

          George E,

          You’re right; that was a very interesting article. If there are no changes to the current path, it sure seems we’re headed toward an Oligarchy. As unfortunate as that seems, we can still pray…and prayer can change things dramatically. Thank you for posting the link.

  • BOBO

    Well these are all good article and notes. I only think that it is up to the individual to do what they think is right for them INSIDE OF THE MAN MADE LAWS AND MORALITY. Now if we were more moral then we would not need the bombs, or any type of government. Then the Bible would control us all, that is my story and i am sticking to it

  • DaveH

    We can exercise control over our own health, only if we can stop Big Government from eliminating our choices:
    http://salsa.democracyinaction.org/o/568/t/1128/campaign.jsp?campaign_KEY=26714

  • http://herringtons.home.mindspring.com lighterknot

    I don’t think I said tribal government was best I said studies show small groups of people in indigenous tribes are happier. Most; I’m sure are dominated by one omnipotent ruler the chief and the shaman who ruled the spirit and health care… much like father/mother…enforcer and nurturer. But the tribe had direct access to the government some were even democratic that might account for their happiness.

    Islam has been warring for years because they live in small tribes ruled by war-lords under a theocracy. And so would we if theocracy ever replaces government here in the states. So did the American Indians over hunting grounds but in general tribes have a sustainable relationship with nature.

    We as Capitalist have no such relationship with nature we are destroying our finite resources at an alarming rate and when mother earth goes we go with it. We have the ability to get back to a sustainable life style compatible with nature and keep our wonderful advances. It will require a lot of MORAL CORPORATION or a totalitarian despot government will have to force it.

    • DaveH

      Destroying our finite resources? Which ones? The only answer that would make sense would be the energy resources. But then, I think the “moral” Liberals would like that, because then we would have to use the alternate energy sources that they are trying prematurely to force on us. No matter how much conservation of energy we practice, eventually we will run out. Then somebody will suffer, like it or not. The best solution we have is to encourage the very prosperity that will supply the capital resources to invent economical renewable energy production. If we succumb to the swan song of Liberals, that future may be indefinitely delayed.

      Make no mistake, “moral” people do not forcibly take the money of others, and “moral” people do not force their solutions on others.

      It is a well known fact that the richer countries are the most environmentally conscious. So, if the Liberal path is followed and Capitalism is subverted, thus leading to weaker economies, the precendent is that we will see degradation in our environment, not improvement.

      • Douglas Hvistendahl

        On the matter of energy: a few years back we set some fans, thermostat controlled, to blow summer air through the basement into the house. Also, we got some used windows and made a giant sunroom on the south. The first gives us cheap cooling, and the soil temperature under the house is rising. It is up 4 degF since last year. The second provides much fall and spring heating when we reverse the fans, and helps with summer dirt warming. There are many other things that can be done, which are cheap enough for us, as individuals to do. One of the best is a small back yard garden, healthy food too.

  • jerryBB

    I like what alot of people keep saying about getting down onyour knees and pray for help and guidance it never hurts but i think that you would be betteroff if you got up with a gun (equalizer) in both hands . These peopel wan’t lisyen to any thing else . If you can’t help your self don’t exspect too much help from these zombies (idiots) that are walking around calling themselves citizens because they are realy already wards of the state only looking for freebes

  • Delores Smith

    DANICA COLLINS,
    THANK YOU FOR THE INTEREST ARTICLE. I APPRECIATE THE INFORMATION.
    Delores

  • Delores Smith

    DANICA COLLINS
    CORRECTED E-MAIL TO YOU. WROTE YOU AN E-MAIL WITH TYPOS. WANTED TO BE SURE YOU UNDERSTOOD WHAT I MEANT.
    THANKS SO MUCH FOR THE INTERESTING ARTICLE. I REALLY APPRECIATE THE INFORMATION.
    Delores Smith
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  • jerryBB

    I have a sister that is aretired nurse practioner and she is a firm beliver in alternative medicine. I too belive that there is alot of good alternative medicine out there but it seems to be more bull than beans in alot of the adversitizing of it .you don’t what to belive. I think it would be better to get a good book that shows the plants tells how to prepare and use them.use caution you know best what works.there is several good alternativeout there but again use caution because some of them do have side efects.One thing every body needs to under stand fully and religerously(pardon my spelling)your body is what you put in it.

  • James

    Interesting, you blast the Healthcare Plan, blast our captialistic healthcare system, and cheer for a European (Socialized Medicine) healthcare benefit. Virtually everything you complained about, or warned about, is already happening. Free-market healthcare has not solved the probelm, but rather created the problem. Far to often, greed drives the train, not concern for the actual health of Americans.

    • Mike In MI

      James – “Free market healthcare…”(?)

      Where? What the blazes are you talking about — fremarket healthcare, my buttinski. All right, all right…sorry, you amy not know that what you think of as “free market healthcare” is non-existent, in this country an way.
      Medical doctors sit on or control nearly every board, committee or panel that ever existed, both in Washington or at state levels, that even remotely touches on any health matter. Allopathic medical authority holds the trump cards on almost every decision, question, regulation or proposal in the sphere of health/disease that governent deals with.
      They try to control health theory, diagnosis, therapeusis, research, funding of research, peer review…everything old and everything new.
      They interfere with, malign, defame, restrict and regulate in everyway practitioners competing for what MD’s consider THEIR healthcare rights (= $$$). They know that if they can control, constrict and mold public opinion they can wring the necks and life blood out of competing health modalities, they can keep you sick (or pain filled and miserable) enough to plead for relief – with no intent to cure you.
      Above all they want no new or different theoretical basis of disease causation, treatment or prevention to gain acceptance. They want only drugs, injectable substances, x-ray and barbaric surgery. They treat diseases, so they need to ensure a steady stream of unhealthy condtions to maintain (Health Maintenance Orgs.). They want you to have no access to alternative providers who lower costs and improve outcomes. Room does not exist here to list the methods they employ to keep you in bondage to their depredations.
      BOMB’R’CARE very effectively maintains their empire by keeping allopaths as the keepers of the gate to “treatments” (not “care”, because that carries a responsibility). This does not apply to alternative and integrative doctors (those maligned by allopaths) who DO offer real Health”care” in their practices.

  • Victoria Canady

    I would like to add that there is a pediatric oncologist that is using baking soda on cancers with 100% total cure rate! It is wonderful! Dr. Simoncini has been chased out of the hospitals in France, and is practicing on his own. How terrible that money is the most important thing to our researchers! Let’s face it, they do NOT want their living taken away, so they will NEVER find a cure, there is too much money to be made; LIVES just do not matter! If I had any caner, I would treat it with baking soda. Also for melanoma’s there is a salve that melts them away, it is called Virxcan. I bought some years ago. It took off a huge mole on my leg. Praise the Lord, God promised that we could cure anything with the herbs of the field and the fruit of the trees…so it should not surprise us! :o)

  • tough beast

    All the chemists, and all the health professionals!!!! WOW!!!!! And who is this jesus guy you all keep bringing up??? All the evidence is no such person existed…… also modern medicine is by far better than the voodoo proposed in any of these postings….. but keep writing all those challenging remarks. Critical thinking.. yes that is quite the concept!!

    • Colin Cody

      May I suggest that you read the writings of Dr. Josh McDowell. You will find that there is at least as much evidence for the life of “this Jesus guy” as for any of the greats of ancient days, Plato, Socrates, etc. The New Testament can also tell you a lot about Him. A genuinely wise person would get his paradise passport from Him without fail (Luke 9:23) and soon, real soon. You will be glad you did if you do and sad you didn’t if you don’t.

      Modern alopathic medicine was responsible for the deaths of over 500,000 American cancer victims last year, people who foolishly trusted those thoroughly incompetent main stream oncologists to save their lives. One of them was a friend of mine no longer with us.

      On the other hand, over 90% of Dr. Tulio Simoncini’s cancer patients are now healed and healthy without any side effects or impaired immune systems using that “voodoo” you mindlessly disparage. And he has been quickly and inexpensively healing cancer victims for over 30 years. Check him out at http://www.cancerfungus.com if you dare.

      Try reading the Life Extension Foundation’s health magazine of alternative medicine and tell me that their information is not thoroughly grounded in scientific research. Then have a look at that group’s very large book, “Disease Prevention and Treatment, Scientific Protocols that Integrate Mainstream and Alternative Medicine, Based Upon Thousands of Research Studies and the Clinical Experience of Physicians Around the World.” Let us know if you find anything there inconsistent with “critical thinking.”

      Then read the latest books by Dr. Nicolas Perricone and Dr. Jordan Rubin to see just how strong their scientific grounding appears to be. Unless you are a medical doctor, a registered nurse or an extremely well read “health nut,” you are unlikely to be able to read and thoroughly understand any of the above literature because of its highly technical, scientific nature. Good luck trying, though, little friend.

    • Fed Up Gal in NM

      tough beast,

      Hmmmmmm….looks like you missed the most important aspects of that critical thinking process the far left libs so proudly wear as their banner …..keeping an open mind and the belief in something bigger and more important than oneself..aka Christ. I hope you find a way to open both your mind and your heart, for the benefit of your own soul.

  • Carol

    Last November I received the notice from Bankers Life and Casualty that my premium would go from $138 a month to $156 a month, and prescription coverage would go to $68.20 a month. Generics would have a $5 copay, and Plavix would go from a $25 a month copay to a $75 a month copay. I cancelled both. They took the money in January anyway, and I was informed I could do nothing about it. Tnen I received a letter saying it was going up to $167 a month starting in February. They also said I owe them over $2000 for prescription coverage even though I have paid out of pocket for them for over 2 years. This has ruined my credit rating and my American Exp Costco card has been dropped to an almost non-existant limit because of it. Right now my cardiologist sees to it I enough Plavix samples to keep me going there since BristolMeyers/Squibb raised the price on it in January. It is now $202 for a 30 day supply. That’s almost 1/3 of my Social Security. I guess the rumors that we seniors are not to be allowed to live to enjoy our retirement are true. If you check out WalMart and Walgreens, you can get meds for very low price. As for oxygen thereapy, my brother worked in a nursing home. He told me that when he had to give an Alzheimers patient oxygen, he or she would be alert and not forgetting things for about a week after receiving the pure oxygen. Why don’t the so-called medicals experts report this? Greed, and the fact that most don’t even care what happens.
    Okay everyone. Have fun with this one while I cool off.

    • Colin Cody

      Please read my earlier post concerning how we can all get to the place in our healthy anti-aging that we no longer need the expensive services of doctors, health insurance companies and Big Pharma. The money I spend on my health is used buying excellent quality food, food supplements and great books on health by Dr.s Jordan Rubin and Nicolas Perricone. My marvelous health magazines are free from the Life Extension Foundation. Some people spend money on gym memberships which is wise if you don’t get yours for free as do I. Best wishes for a disease free life here and eternal life in the hereafter.

  • JC

    This is from an email I recieved:

    I thought you might find the following article from snopes.com interesting: http://www.snopes.com/politics/medical/exemptions.asp
    Had never heard the word until now—Type it into Google and start reading…Pretty interesting. Note that Muslims and certain other religions are exempt from the Obamacare penalties and it is supported by law. We are surrendering from within! The boy is leading us right down the path to total control!

    Word of the Day: Dhimmitude
    Dhimmitude is the Muslim system of controlling non-Muslim populations conquered through jihad. Specifically, it is the TAXING of non-Muslims in exchange for tolerating their presence AND as a coercive means of converting conquered remnants to Islam.
    The ObamaCare bill is the establishment of Dhimmitude and Sharia Muslim diktat in the United States . Muslims are specifically exempted from the government mandate to purchase insurance, and also from the penalty tax for being uninsured. Islam considers insurance to be “gambling”, “risk-taking” and “usury” and is thus banned. Muslims are specifically granted exemption based on this. How convenient. So I a Christian, will have crippling IRS liens placed against all of my assets, including real estate, cattle, and even accounts receivables, and will face hard prison time because I refuse to buy insurance or pay the penalty tax. Meanwhile, Louis Farrakhan will have no such penalty and will have 100% of his health needs paid for by the de facto government insurance. Non-Muslims will be paying a tax to subsidize Muslims. Period. This is Dhimmitude.
    Dhimmitude serves two purposes: it enriches the Muslim masters AND serves to drive conversions to Islam. In this case, the incentive to convert to Islam will be taken up by those in the inner-cities as well as the godless Generation X, Y and Z types who have no moral anchor. If you don’t believe in Christ to begin with, it is no problem whatsoever to sell Him for 30 pieces of silver. “Sure, I’ll be a Muslim if it means free health insurance and no taxes. Where do I sign, bro?”
    I recommend sending this post to your contacts. This is desperately important and people need to know about it – quickly.

    • JC

      NOTE: After some research I Can neither prove this to be true or false. Make of it what you will.

  • Penni Eads

    J.M. or anyone who has used the food grade hydrogen peroxide:

    Where can you buy it? We have checked the local drug/health food stores with no success. Is there a place online? I have used natural healing for 30 years and am very interested. Thanks.

    • Colin Cody

      There is a health food store in Arlington, Texas where they sell 35% food grade hydrogen peroxide at a fair price and it is stored cold. If you live near Arlington, you can get it here. The store is located near the intersection of Park Row and Bowen.

  • JIBBS

    This is a (offensive word removed) claim, you need to do your homework before ad’s like this are posted….buyer beware !!!!

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