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Texas Governor’s Novel Idea: Give Back Tax Money Under Budget Surplus

January 31, 2013 by  

Texas Governor’s Novel Idea: Give Back Tax Money Under Budget Surplus
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During a State of the State address this week, Texas Governor Rick Perry called for returning taxpayer money to the taxpayers of his State when the government is operating at a surplus.

“Today, I’m calling for a mechanism to be put in place so when we do bring in more than we need, we’ll have the option of returning tax money directly to the people who paid it,” the Governor said Tuesday. “Currently, that’s not something our constitution allows. We need to fix that.”

Perry, whose State is currently operating at a budget surplus, went on to say, “We’ve never bought into the notion that if you collect more, you need to spend more.”

As the Texas economy has improved in recent years, the State’s Governor has doubled down on calls for lawmakers to keep taxes low and government spending at a minimum. In 2011, Texas faced a budget shortfall of as much as $27 billion; but because of deep spending cuts and increased oil and gas revenues, the latest budget estimates for the State indicate a surplus estimated around $8.8 billion today.

Other States are looking to Texas to come up with plans to realize similar budgetary success. Louisiana Governor Bobby Jindal proposed recently that lawmakers in his State should be more Texas-like by doing away with State income taxes. Meanwhile, lawmakers in Oklahoma are trying to cut taxes to remain economically competitive with their neighbor to the south.

Sam Rolley

Staff writer Sam Rolley began a career in journalism working for a small town newspaper while seeking a B.A. in English. After learning about many of the biases present in most modern newsrooms, Rolley became determined to find a position in journalism that would allow him to combat the unsavory image that the news industry has gained. He is dedicated to seeking the truth and exposing the lies disseminated by the mainstream media at the behest of their corporate masters, special interest groups and information gatekeepers.

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  • JimH

    If I give the cashier a $50 dollar bill for $45 worth of grocery’s I want the change back.
    Why shouldn’t it be that if the state collected more than it needed to pay for the services rendered,it should “give back the change” to the customer?(taxpayer)

    • rendarsmith

      100% right. What’s funny is Texas has no state tax.

      • deerinwater

        Thanks to cattle, oil and ag business Texas is a wealthy state. Thanks to Gov. Ann Richards for her long view as she went about diversifying our economy, we have insurance industry, shipping, import/export, fishing, filming industry much,much more.

        The state economy that she put in place has endured the likes of GW Bush and now Rick Perry. ~We can afford to pay him a healthy state pension and a payroll check for serving as our 2nd “do nothing” but slap his gums GOP governor.

        The GOP has had little to do with our economy but in in spite of their tomfoolery.

      • http://yahoo.com BillT

        While Texas has no state tax, property taxes are very high – I hope this is some of the tax money he is talking about giving back. I could use a few extra dollars back in my bank account.

      • momo

        If Ann Richards was so great, how come she lost to W? And Bill is right, our property taxes are too high!

      • deerinwater

        MOMO ask; “If Ann Richards was so great, how come she lost to W?”

        Many things, but I’ll offer you two of the biggest reason and leave Lee Atwater completely out of it.

        1. Hunger GOP Northerner’s by the train load coming down to Texas looking for work and bring their political understanding and past affiliations with them. They did not know Texas or what we are about ~ they were little more then rats from a sinking ship and carried their bight with them.

        2. A GOP Coup by state assemble to remap Texas voting district to favor the GOP. ~ Exact what the GOP is attempting to do in the state of Virginia at this very minute.

        http://www.notevenpast.org/texas/george-lege-part-3-redistricting

        A Texas Democrat is more conservative then many other state Republicans and always has been.

        At one time, Texas was a State of Mind. ~ Today, Texas needs a Statue of Liberty erected on the South side of the Red River.

        Today, we are all victims of people moving about ~ and bringing their trash with them.

      • GRusling

        deerinwater says: “Thanks to Gov. Ann Richards for her long view as she went about diversifying our economy, we have insurance industry, shipping, import/export, fishing, filming industry much,much more.

        The state economy that she put in place has endured the likes of GW Bush and now Rick Perry. ~We can afford to pay him a healthy state pension and a payroll check for serving as our 2nd “do nothing” but slap his gums GOP governor.”
        ————————————————————————–

        Governor Ann Richards – our alcoholic governor, who did fairly well considering that her brain was long ago destroyed by that same alcohol. She’s also the “sitting Governor” who was defeated by George W. Bush, a political newcomer at the time.

        The Texas Lottery was also instituted during her governorship—advocated as a means of supplementing school finances. That never happened. Like most money, any profit (when it occurs) simply disappears into the general fund.

        In 1993, with a democratic legislature Richards signed into law the re-codified Texas Penal Code which states: “(a) A person commits an offense if he engages in deviate sexual intercourse with another individual of the same sex. (b) An offense under this section is a Class C misdemeanor.” In 1990, Richards had campaigned in Houston to repeal the law. But, as governor, her signature criminalized same-sex sexual relations in Texas.

        She was defeated in 1994 by George W. Bush, despite spending 23% more than the Bush campaign. The Richards campaign had hoped for a misstep from the relatively inexperienced Republican candidate, but none appeared, and Richards created one of her own in calling Bush “some jerk.” Her defeat was attributed in part to three specific reasons: (1) her opposition to the concealed weapon bill authored by State Representative Suzanna Hupp, which was adopted and signed by Governor Bush in 1995; (2) her support of a proposal to place five Texas waterways under federal instead of state control, a move that could have halted development in Central Texas, and (3) her remarks at a Girl Scouts conference in Austin in which she warned the young women to beware of “Prince Charming on a motorcycle with a beer gut and a wandering eye.”

        Governor Bush served until he was elected President of the United States.

        Governor Perry is now the longest serving Governor in State history, having recently been re-elected overwhelmingly to his third term.

        It appears that “deerinwater” says a number of things which have no basis in fact…

      • TML

        I think giving Ann Richard’s, a governor who only served 4 years, all the credit for Texas economic growth and prosperity – even saying that what she put in place endured the likes of Bush and Perry (whom has served 12 years now) – is really pushing the envelope on reality.

        I will agree, however, with the statement, “ A Texas Democrat is more conservative than many other state’s Republicans and always has been.”

      • deerinwater

        Facts?

        “Governor Bush served until he was elected President of the United States.”

        Correct ! Redistricting ! ~ and isn’t America the Lucky Duck? ~ He took over a state that was running it’s self .

        “Governor Perry is now the longest serving Governor in State history, having recently been re-elected overwhelmingly to his third term.”

        Again Correct! Redistricting! and he ain’t worth beans! and again our state runs itself.

        “It appears that “deerinwater” says a number of things which have no basis in fact…”

        I say, ~ the obvious seems to escape you!

        Richards became the first woman elected to statewide office in more than fifty years. In 1986, she was re-elected treasurer without opposition. Richards was a popular and proactive treasurer who worked to maximize the return of Texas state investments. Richards said that when she took office, the Treasury Department was run something like a 1930s country bank, with deposits that didn’t earn interest.

        At the 1984 Democratic National Convention, Richards delivered one of the nominating speeches for nominee Walter Mondale, and she campaigned actively for the Mondale/Ferraro ticket in Texas, even though President Ronald Reagan enjoyed great popularity in her state.

        Richards’s keynote address to the 1988 Democratic National Convention put her in the national spotlight. The speech was highly critical of the Reagan Administration and then-Vice President George H. W. Bush. Her address was notable for including several humorous remarks displaying her down-home Texas charm such as: “I’m delighted to be here with you this evening, because after listening to George Bush all these years, I figured you needed to know what a real Texas accent sounds like” or “Poor George, he can’t help it. He was born with a silver foot in his mouth,[2] ” “…two women in 160 years is about par for the course. But if you give us a chance, we can perform. After all, Ginger Rogers did everything that Fred Astaire did. She just did it backwards and in high heels,[3] ” and “When we pay billions for planes that won’t fly, billions for tanks that won’t fire, and billions for systems that won’t work, that old dog won’t hunt. And you don’t have to be from Waco to know that when the Pentagon makes crooks rich and doesn’t make America strong, that it’s a bum deal.” Richards’ convention address has been cited by rhetorical experts as a historically significant speech.

        Although officially she was the second woman to hold Texas’s top office, Richards is considered the first woman elected governor of Texas in her own right, since twice-elected Miriam “Ma” Ferguson is often discounted as having been a proxy for impeached governor James E. “Pa” Ferguson, her husband.

        The economy of Texas had been in a slump since the mid-1980s, compounded by a downturn in the U.S. economy. Richards responded with a program of economic revitalization, yielding growth in 1991 of 2 percent when the U.S. economy as a whole shrank. Richards also attempted to streamline Texas’s government and regulatory institutions for business and the public; her efforts in the former tried but failed to help revitalize Texas’s corporate infrastructure for its explosive economic growth later in the decade, and her audits on the state bureaucracy saved $6 billion. ( That’d been no ENRON debacle if she had succeeded)

        She was famous for her personal charisma, for her ease with the public, and even for her see-through wispy white hairdo. It was said that many people who knew her personally saw little if any difference between her public and private personas.[citation needed] Her sense of humor was often part of her day-to-day political life. Regarding a concealed weapons bill, she was asked if she didn’t think the women of Texas might feel safer if they could carry guns in their purses. She replied, “Well I’m not a sexist, but there is not a woman in this state who could find a gun in her handbag, much less a lipstick.”

        She was defeated in 1994 by George W. Bush, having polled 46% of the vote to Bush’s 53% (Libertarian Keary Ehlers drew the remainder), despite spending 23% more than the Bush campaign.[8] The Richards campaign had hoped for a misstep from the relatively inexperienced Republican candidate, but none appeared, and Richards created one of her own in calling Bush “some jerk.”[9]
        Karl Rove, the Bush campaign strategist, listed three specific reasons that may have contributed to Richards’s defeat: (1) her opposition to the concealed weapon bill authored by State Representative Suzanna Hupp, which was adopted and signed by Governor Bush in 1995; (2) her attempt and then her reversal on a proposal to place five Texas waterways under federal instead of state control, a move that could have halted development in Central Texas, and (3) her remarks at a Girl Scouts conference in Austin in which she warned the young women to beware of “Prince Charming on a motorcycle with a beer gut and a wandering eye.”[10]

        I say that it was her success that lead to her failure, ~ if Texas had been an economic arm pit like much of the nation at the time~ all these Bush Yankee’s would have went to California where the women are women and the men are too.

        When Rove was an adviser for George W. Bush’s 1994 race for governor of Texas against Democratic incumbent Ann Richards, a persistent whisper campaign in conservative East Texas wrongly suggested that Richards was a lesbian. According to Texas journalist Lou Dubose: “No one ever traced the character assassination to Rove. Yet no one doubts that Rove was behind it. It’s a process on which he holds a patent. Identify your opponent’s strength, and attack it so relentlessly that it becomes a liability. Richards was admired because she promised and delivered a ‘government that looked more like the people of the state.’ That included the appointment of blacks, Hispanics and gays and lesbians. Rove made that asset a liability.”

        In 1986, Rove, in Texas and working on a campaign for Republican gubernatorial candidate Bill Clements, declared that Democrats had bugged his office. The accusation, which spurred an FBI investigation, never panned out, leading critics to charge that Rove had bugged his own office. In late 1999, there was widespread speculation that Rove was behind the whisper campaign alleging that Sen. John McCain (R-AZ), then a leading contender for the Republican nomination for president, was in danger of cracking from stress of having been a prisoner of war in Vietnam.[19]

        Some observers contend that part of Rove’s success was based on his willingness to fight dirty. This tendency expressed itself early. In 1970, Rove stole 1,000 sheets of letterhead from the office of Illinois Democrat Alan Dixon, who was running for state treasurer. Rove printed the message “Free beer, free food, girls, and a good time for nothing” on the sheets and distributed them as a supposed invitation to a Dixon rally. Though the rally was disrupted, Dixon won the election. Rove owned up to the stunt many years later, saying: “It was a youthful prank at the age of 19 and I regret it.”[17]

        and I still have yet to get to Karl’s mentor Lee Atwater the Master wizard of dirty tricks.

      • deerinwater

        TML say ; “even saying that what she put in place endured the likes of Bush and Perry (whom has served 12 years now) – is really pushing the envelope on reality.”

        And Texas hasn’t went anywhere but backwards those 12 years. That we are better off then other states ~ is no claim to fame.

        We have managed to avoid sinking! barely ! ~ These governors have not been Leaders ~ but Liners of the people that support them pockets .

        Rick Perry tweeked the tax codes to favor his friends while moving the burden around and came up with Budget short falls.

        ” Gov. Rick Perry signed a budget that was balanced only through accounting maneuvers, rewriting school funding laws, ignoring a growing population and delaying payments on bills coming due in 2013.
        It accomplishes, however, what the Republican majority wanted most: It did not raise taxes, took little from the Rainy Day Fund and shifted any future deficits onto the next Legislature.
        The new budget also preposterously assumes there will be no growth in the number of school children in Texas, even though it is one of the fastest-growing states in the nation. Experts predict this trick alone will shortchange school districts by $2 billion.”

        “s governor for over a decade, Perry’s “fiscal conservatism” has doubled the state’s debt from $13.7 billion in 2001 to $34.08 billion in 2009. He’s refused to raise taxes on the wealthy and brags about not dipping into the state’s substantial Rainy Day Fund. (However, Perry’s fellow Texas Republicans claim Perry has appropriated nearly all the money in the Rainy Day Fund, and have asked him to stop claiming that he preserved it.)
        Democrats have fought back against the GOP claim that it was truly a balanced budget. “It’s all smoke and mirrors and misdirection,” said state Rep. Garnett Coleman (D).”

    • Walter & Renee Agard

      You are quite right. why do we have to pay tax so many times .

  • Warrior

    Well looky here, as rome burns, one of the “suburbs” is doin OK. Maybe DC leadership could be transferred to Texas. And I meant “leadership” not “occupants”.

  • rendarsmith

    Great, now all the libs leaving California are going to go to Texas looking for handouts….

  • Meatman

    I have lived in Texas all my life, this is a Rick Perry publicity stunt for reelection! We need new bridges replaced that are 30 plus years old,! We need more lakes to be built because there are areas out of water from a 5 year drought! Our teachers are under paid, our schools budgets have been cut, and our schools are overwhelmed. Our state employees are under paid, Im not talking about upper management, I’m talking about the real work force!

    • one eye open

      Being a native Texan myself….Reelection or not, this is the best state to live in and we seem to be leading the country in fiscal efforts. Yes there are some infrastructure needs and I hope they get addressed. Lets us Texans be greatful that we are not in a Liberal State that has crumbling infrastructure as well as a bankruptcy like most. Quit whining!

      • DavidL

        What if the Texas surplus is the result of Federal aid collected, mostly, from blue states? Return the surplus to whom? Economists have long known that, in spite of the rhetoric about ‘getting the government off our backs’, the red states receive more federal spending, net of taxes, than the blue states.

        http://www.voxeu.org/article/which-50-states-practise-personal-responsibility

        “The statistical reality is that the red-staters are, on average, less prone to pay income taxes, more prone to receive subsidies from the federal government, less physically fit, less responsible in their sexual behaviour, more prone to inflict harm on themselves and on others through smoking, drunk driving and misuse of firearms, and more prone to freeride on the healthcare system, compared to blue-staters.”

      • Chas

        The key is BUDGETs. Evidently our Fed electeds don’t understand that concept.

      • deerinwater

        one eye open says; “Lets us Texans be grateful that we are not in a Liberal State that has crumbling infrastructure as well as a bankruptcy like most. Quit whining!”

        I say, you might open that other eye. It was Conservative democrats that build this economy ~ If you will do your history.

        A Texas democrat is a Conservative by any other states standard.

    • KG

      I live in Texas after living in LA, California for 20 years. Perry is now the longest serving state governor EVER. In other words, he’s the state level equivalent of FDR.

      Every single appoint-able position a Governor can fill has been filled by Perry. Yes, Texas has no income tax, however, the Property taxes and the Sales taxes are some of the highest in the country.

      And, lets not forget that a former Texan governor was President of the USA. Texas gets more than it’s share of Federal Money. Just the US Military presence in Texas accounts for about 70-80% of the state revenue. Perry really should give that money back to who gave it to him – the Federal Government.

      And all you “proud” Texans who want to secede, just think of Texas WITHOUT ANY SOCIAL SECURITY RETIREES or FEDERAL MILITARY. Texas would go broke in a week.

      • KG

        “You want the truth? YOU CANT HANDLE THE TRUTH!”
        Texans want to be deluded.

        It’s hard to see the warts wearing your cowboy hat.

      • RD

        Is Jerry Brown your answer? Why did you move if things are so bad in Texas for you and please reference your source of information when stating what you propose is fact. There are a lot of reasons the Federal government positioned the military in our state, weather conditions, ground space for the Army’s training, air space over unpopulated terrain for Naval and Air Force training flights just to name a few and these are used to defend your right to free speech to blast Texas. If the federal government is using our Texas resources to defend our United States than fair compensation is due to the state or any state for that matter. Doesn’t California have a large military presence and don’t they receive compensation ? As far as giving the money back to the feds, why, haven’t they shown you enough in their wasteful spending of taxpayers money.

      • nobodysfool

        To KG, David L, and all you other whiners seeking to disparage Texas and Texans, it’s obvious you do not live in Texas. Your problem is your wide jealous streak. Please, do us Texans a favor and do not EVER move to our beloved Republic of Texas!!! If we can convince our leaders to secede, Texas will not suffer from lack of funds from the defunct and bankrupt fiat money Federal government. We are enterprising, and when not held down by a government boot on our necks, there is no end to the wealth we can produce. Our neighbors, Louisiana and Oklahoma, and probably eventually Arkansas, maybe even Kansas will join us in secession. Our poor destitute government dependent neighbors to the west, New Mexico, will most likely stand at the border and stick their collective tongues out at us, because they will sign on to the Federal government’s Perpetual Poverty Plan of welfare, food stamps, and multiple voting privileges. In Texas, we will not break stride as we push on to become, not the 12th largest economy in the world as we currently are, but the FIRST and FOREMOST economy in the world!!! Remember the Alamo!!! Remember the battle cry of Gonzales TX, “Come and take it!!” and remember this, “Don’t mess with Texas!!!” Now go away all you jealous commies. You are starting to stink.

      • KG

        So, in other words, RD, I’m right?

      • Kinetic1

        nobodysfool,
        Oh how I love it when Texans plump up like a wild turkey and declare the glory of their “beloved Republic of Texas!!” The Republic of Texas. The only state that was an independent Republic before it became a state. The state that survived on it’s own and would do so again! It’s a wonderful legend, but the facts sure don’t help.

        Remember, the U.S. did not beg Texas to join the Union. After all, why would the U.S. be interested in a Republic with $10,000,000 in debt?(That’s $303,030,303.03 in today’s dollars.) No, the “beloved Republic of Texas!!”, despite all their bluster and claimed land holdings was in way over it’s head and begging for help for the second time after less than 10 years in existence. Do you really think the new “Republic” would do much better once the U.S. cut off oil from the other states, pulled out the military, and did away with all the other pay offs and perks? Would all those corporations stay put if the state was no longer a state? Lot’s of good questions, but we’ll never know because, despite all the posturing Texas is not about to secede.

        By the by, I don’t know any Californians who have ANY desire to live in Texas. As one native I know said after being forced to relocate by his employer, “The only thing these people know how to do right is beef. You’ll die trying to find a decent loaf of bread or a piece of cheese.” Perhaps all this attention towards California comes from your “Republic’s” failed plans to claim the southern CA coast as part of the Republic as well.

    • GRusling

      Rick Perry JUST WON re-election last November, so while it may be a “political stunt” it certainly isn’t part of any reelection campaign!

      The problem with the idea is how to accomplish such a feat? In Texas, the State levies no direct tax (neither income nor property) on “The People” so who would the State return it to? I suggest any excess go into our “Permanent School Fund” which draws interest and supports public education in the State…

  • Chester

    How much unretired debt does Texas owe? Just because it isn’t budgeted, like the bridge and road repairs, doesn’t mean it isn’t there. If you have outstanding debt that you are servicing at a minimum rate, and you have a surplus in your budget, why not retire some of that debt a little sooner than originally planned? That way, the next time money gets tight, there is less going out, and a better chance to borrow more at decent rates rather than at the spendthrift rate payday loan outfits charge.

    • GRusling

      The last time I checked, Texas had a very good credit rating, mostly because we “borrow sparingly” in accordance with the requirement of our State Constitution.

      Texas is a “Constitutional Republic” and unlike so many other folks these days, we actually know what that means, and how it’s dramatically different from a “Democracy” which we want no part of.

      The State of Texas levies no “direct tax” on the citizens of our State. If your property taxes are too high, take your complaint to your “City”, “County” and/or “School District” because these are the folks you pay all property taxes to! That means “LOCAL POLITICIANS” are your problem, not the State, it’s Governor or it’s Legislature…

      • KG

        Yes. It’s true. Texas actually has a county called “Hogg County” If you miss the old tv show “Dukes of Hazzard,” you can relive it here in Texas. The home of “Boss Hogg politics.” I’m still trying to figure out what in he77 does a “constable” do other than eat doughnuts at Shipley’s.

      • deerinwater

        It has a city named Gun Barrel as well.

  • Fay Guht

    Wow, the states are really the laboaratory of (the republic) “democracy.” Look for the Kenyan, Barry Hussein Soetoro, i.e., Chicago Mans Country attendee, to confiscate the surpluses in the name of xxxxxxxxxxx (insert Executive Order here).

    • deerinwater

      Right ! that there is no surplus ~ you are still impressed?

      I think that was Perry’s purpose for the claim.

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