Teaching The Test: The Coming Common Core Disaster

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The new national education standards adopted by 45 States and the District of Columbia and now slipping into America’s schools are a collectivist’s dream.

Called Common Core, it is an attempt to create a Federally controlled education system designed to turn children into mind-numbed drones devoid of imagination and inculcated with a progressive culture of redistributionist economics, social justice, the mainstreaming of perverted lifestyles, secular humanism and radical environmentalism. It is a one-size-fits-all scheme that will dumb down students to the lowest common denominator.

Proponents of the program — people like radical Education Secretary Arne Duncan (champion of ridiculous zero-tolerance policies that lead to expulsions over breakfast tarts bitten into and papers torn into the shape of guns) — claim the goal is to prepare all students for entrance into community college. Never mind the fallacious logic that all children need a college education or even that a college education has much value in today’s part-time Obamacare economy, the truth is Common Core’s curriculum will create a group of students ignorant but well-prepared and well-versed in taking tests, as teachers will be evaluated on their students test scores rather than whether the children are learning anything useful.

Cash-strapped States grasped onto Common Core as a lifeline. President Barack Obama offered them hundreds of millions of dollars in “stimulus” funds and relief from the insidious No Child Left Behind standards that were to hit in full force in 2014. They did so sight unseen, based on the recommendation of two progressive lobbying groups, the National Governor’s Association (NGA) and Council of Chief State School Officers (CCSSO) — the groups that hold copyrights over the standards. The standards were written by the leftist ACHIEVE, Inc., without input from State legislators, school boards, teachers or parents.

In addition to Federal “stimulus” dollars, the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation has dumped nearly $200 million into Common Core through the NGA, CCSSO, ACHIEVE, teachers’ unions, nonprofits and State and local school boards that are pushing Common Core. For more on the crony capitalist nature of Common Core, go here and here.

So what has Gates to gain from doing such a thing? In order to comply, schools will be purchasing a computer for every student and the software needed to run the curriculum, education program and testing system. In fact, Gates as much as admitted this in 2009 at the National Conference of State Legislators:

Fortunately, the State-led Common Core State Standards Initiative is developing clear, rigorous common standards that match the best in the world. Last month, 46 Governors and chief State school officers made a public commitment to embrace these common standards.

This is encouraging, but identifying common standards is not enough. We’ll know we’ve succeeded when the curriculum and the tests are aligned to these standards.

Secretary Arne Duncan recently announced that $350 million of the stimulus package will be used to create just these kinds of tests: next-generation assessments aligned to the common core. When the tests are aligned to the common standards, the curriculum will line up as well. And that will unleash powerful market forces in the service of better teaching.

For the first time, there will be a large uniform base of customers eager to buy products that can help every child learn and every teacher get better.

In other words, Gates sees millions of new customers eager to buy products created by Microsoft that align with copyrighted standards established by a nonprofit he controls.

The Federal and grant money that has so far been poured into Common Core implementation will cover only about half the costs. The rest must be accumulated through local means. In addition to computers for every student, Common Core requires school systems to install a group of “master teachers” who will be charged with coaching, monitoring and assessing classroom teachers and ensuring their ability to teach the tests.

So what about the education students will be receiving from Common Core? According to teacher and author Dean Kalahar, it is geared toward ensuring “schoolchildren believe that America has been a nation of bigots, racists, greedy collusive poverty creating capitalists, war mongering imperialists, anti-immigrant, segregating, discriminating, and disenfranchising racists and farmers; and that kids should be an anti-war peace loving through diplomacy, diversity and immigration seeking, tolerant through racial identity politicking citizens of big government spending through redistribution of wealth and regulation providing Medicare, minimum wage, civil rights and affirmative action powered by the auspices of globalization and the United Nations.”

He bases that on an analysis of documents issued by the Florida Department of Education.

Stanford University professor James Milgram, the only mathematician on the validation panel, concluded that the Common Core math scheme would place American students two years behind their peers in other high-achieving countries. In protest, Milgram refused to sign off on the standards. He’s not alone.

According to New York University Professor Jonathan Goodman, Common Core math standards imposed “significantly lower expectations with respect to algebra and geometry than the published standards of other countries.” The American Principles Project and Pioneer Institute notes that under Common Core, the teaching of algebra I begins in the ninth grade rather than the current eighth, as is common. Division is postponed to sixth grade. Prime factorization, common denominators, fractional conversion and decimals are de-emphasized.

Or, as Grayslake, Ill., curriculum director and Common Core proponent Amanda August told one group in explaining Common Core: “Even if they said 3 X 4 was 11, if they were able to explain their reasoning, and explain how they came up with their answer, really in words and in oral explanation… we’re really more focused on the explanation and the how and the why.”

Additionally, Euclidian geometry will be replaced with a dubious geometry standard; and rote memorization will be greatly reduced. Great literature and works of fiction will be replaced with technical materials. These include technical manuals that enhance the computer-centric method that Common Core stresses.

Common Core also creates informational databases that make National Security Agency snoops envious. The State Longitudinal Database Systems called for in the program gather tons of information — including personally identifiable information that includes parents’ names, addresses, Social Security numbers, birth dates, place of birth, mother’s maiden name, etc. — that can be sold or distributed to third parties. Students will essentially become lab rats, as the data will also examine and catalog student frustration, motivation/flow, confidence, boredom and fatigue during the course of their studies.

It will also collect sensitive information from children including:

  • Political affiliations or beliefs of the student or parent.
  • Mental and psychological problems of the student or the student’s family.
  • Sex behavior or attitudes.
  • Illegal, anti-social, self-incriminating and demeaning behavior.
  • Critical appraisals of other individuals with whom respondents have close family relationships.
  • Legally recognized privileged or analogous relationships, such as those of lawyers, physicians and ministers.
  • Religious practices, affiliations or beliefs of the student or the student’s parent.
  • Income (other than that required by law to determine eligibility for participation in a program or for receiving financial assistance under such program).

School boards across the country are doing all they can to avoid answering the tough questions now coming from parents just waking up to what’s befallen their children. But they’d better get ready to answer them; because when students begin failing the tests, parents are going to want to know why — just like in New York, where the failure rate of students was 69 percent. For blacks and Hispanics the failure rate was 84 percent.

When students fail tests and teachers are held accountable, teachers and school administrators look bad. The tests are then dumbed down so more students can pass and the teachers and administrators can say their techniques are working. Meanwhile, more and more automatons are walking out the school doors into failure and dependency.

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  • http://www.rt.com Alondra

    The letter (September 27, 2013), signed by Catherine E. Lhamon, the Education Department’s assistant secretary in the Office for Civil Rights, and Jocelyn Samuels, the Justice Department’s acting assistant attorney general in the Civil Rights Division says is telling colleges and universities to continue to use the Affirmative Action.

    “Racially diverse educational environments help to prepare students to succeed in our increasingly diverse nation,” the administration said Friday in a letter to the schools.

    Education Secretary Arne Duncan said Friday in interview to the Associated Press in Washington that a diverse enrollment, “promotes cross-racial UNDERSTANDING and DIALOGUE, reduces racial isolation and helps to
    break down STEREOTYPES.”

    1) I don’t need any “promotion” in “UNDERSTANDING”.
    My UNDERSTANDING” comes directly from my knowledge and experience.

    2) We can and we wish to have “DIALOGUE”.
    What is a definition of “DIALOGUE”? It’s a conversation, discussion or an exchange of the viewpoints on the particular subjects between TWO or MORE people/parties.

    But the problem is that one side is not interested in “DIALOGUE”.
    They are interested ONLY in “MONOLOGS”.

    3) Reduce racial isolation can only the members of the racial groups. We do not need the laws to force it. It NEVER worked.

    4) Help to break down STEREOTYPES.
    Again, the STEREOTYPES can’t be break down by force. It fully dependents on the INDIVIDUAL person behavior.

    I am explaining to my liberal friends by my personal view.
    I have no any racial “STEREOTYPES” of the Whiteys, Blacks, Browns, Reds or Yellow. (Only on the Greens. But that is another story.)

    My “STEREOTYPES” are Peoples values and convictions.
    Let’s compare two groups of the ONE race:

    1) barrack hussein obama, al sharpron, holder, oprah, jacksons (corrupt daddy & son), maxine waters, sheila jackson lee, frederica wilson, susan rice, bobby rush and their ilk – ALL are totally corrupt, deranged, and racists.

    2) Thomas Sowell, Walter E. Williams , Ben Carson, Clarence Thomas,
    Condoleezza Rice, Allen West, Herman Cain, Michael Steele, Tim Scott, David
    Webb, Alan Keyes, 50 Cent, and Aveda King, Star Parker, Julius Watts, Louisiana State Senator Elbert Guillory (who just a few months ago changed his party affiliation from D to R) and others.

    Enough said.

    I leave you with the Thomas Sowell’s – Affirmative Action, race, culture and politics. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eUbOcgj8AjQ

    And absolutely beautiful speech of Ben Carson
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFb6NU1giRA
    Enjoy it.

    • liz

      You are correct but the average people never see these things because no one in the mainstream media promote it.

      Individuals in this Country need to remember we are ALL AMERICANS and stop being a hyphenated people! Our Nation will collapse if we don’t change this idea.

      • chocopot

        “Our Nation will collapse if we don’t change this idea.”

        Precisely the goal.

        • nc

          chocopot, our nation is going to “collapse” anyway according to the dingbats who call this home! Have you buried your beans yet???
          No army has successfully invaded England since 1066 yet people have walked those streets preaching doom and destruction practically daily since. It is the nature of the paranoid mind!! A sickness!

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            NutCase says — “It is the nature of the paranoid mind!! A sickness!”.
            More manipulation from a Liberal Progressive.
            You must have mistaken this for a Liberal Progressive board, NutCase, where the readers are ignorant enough to fall for your manipulative techniques.

          • NC

            aboriginal, what is ignorant is your thinking I am Mark!
            YOU THINK IT AND IT BECOMES YOUR TRUTH! HOW SAD!
            YOU NEED TO ASK YOUR MOTHER IF YOU CAN RAISE A WINDOW IN HER BASEMENT! YOU BRAIN HAS BECOME OXYGEN STARVED!

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            You know there is a system glitch, NutCase. I may be orders of magnitude more intelligent than you, but I can’t help that.
            But thanks for posting, NutCase, so that the readers can see what 60 years of poisonous Liberal Progressive thinking does to a person’s mind.

          • NC

            Aboriginal, I know what 60 years of liberal progressive thinking had done for this country! I has kept us in front of all of the rest of the countries in the world! I would like one of you Pi$$ and moan true conservatives to name your leaders in that period what they have added to our strength! Also name a country in which you would rather live AND WHY!!!!! I’M WAITING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            We’re in front of all the other countries, NutCase?
            What pill did you have to take to come to that hallucination?
            What are we in front of them in?

          • nc

            Aboriginal did you forget (again) to name what true conservative President we have had and what he has done to get us to where we are?? You forgot to name a country better than this country that you think is a wreck and not number one anymore! Jump right here! We’re waiting!!!

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            NutCase,
            In case you haven’t noticed our economy sucks. We are on the down-drain spiral. We haven’t had any Conservative Presidents since the late 19th Century. So you have nobody to blame but the Progressives.
            I’m waiting for you to tell everybody what we’re number 1 in NutCase. You’re the one who made the claim. So back it up, you old dork.

          • http://www.rt.com Alondra

            He is just an example of the Darwin evolution – the
            inheritable Ape genes are screaming out

          • Moshe McCarthy

            As long as the state sanctions & funds the murder of innocent life in the womb & calls it freedom for women, we have already collapsed internally & Spiritually…all the rest, no matter how insane & satanic is just window dressing!

            On 9/11, the number of murdered Americans was roughly equal to the number of legal abortions performed everyday in USA….Coincidence? Methinks NOT!!

          • nc

            MOSHE, there is also a mental sickness where people like you arrange disconnected numbers and/or letters and reach a conclusion from them!
            Have you tried throwing chicken bones on a table???or darts at a board? or watching faux noise?? or getting your “news” here??? Same thing!!!

          • Moshe McCarthy

            There is no valid defense for legalized & state funded abortion …..NONE!!! You are so disconnected from God & reality, that you don’t know how precious life is, you are a foot soldier in the Army of the Devil & glory in their Culture from the Pit of Death & Hell!

            Was Gosnell a hero of yours?

          • nc

            Moshe! There is no Constitutional ban on abortions and it has been recognized by the Supreme Court! Do you like or Constitution or not???

          • Moshe McCarthy

            Hey, it may be law of land, but there is a higher law involved. I’m not advocating killing the abortion doctor murderers, but just cause Sup. Court signs off on it does not make it right. Even many LIb jurists admit their reasoning was specious & ridiculous.

            This post shows why you are lost. You love your govt. so much that whatever they do is right, huh? You can’t think for yourself, you just roll in lockstep with Lib agenda…homo marriage, global warming, the killing of innocent babies all ok. You are even a big phony…Obummer doing same things as Bush, yet Bush was devil & OBOZO is ok……OY VEY, get some help, man!!!

          • nc

            MOSHE, I HAVE SAID FOR several years that I think Obama made a mistake to go for Health Care reform before the economy had been strengthened and he also has waited too long to get out of Afghanistan! I understand why he went for HCR! ! He had the votes and no party may see that many votes available for a long time! He drew a bad hand with Afghanistan and played it too long! I’m sure there are some conditions there I know nothing about but that is still my opinion! I AM NOT IN LOCK STEP!
            All Presidents do some things like past Presidents! It’s called protocol!
            I have been following each party’s platform for all the years I have been voting and every time the Democrat Platform speaks to matters I believe in much stronger than the Republican platform! So when any candidate indicates he/she will follow the Republican platform they are dead in my book! I have more in common with the working man than the front office!
            I sort of like that Jesus guy! He seemed have a real concern for the less fortunate and not so much for those without great need!

          • Moshe McCarthy

            You are a phony & your views are moronic!! If you think DEMs care more, you’ve been had by a bunch of con men!

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            As usual, NutCase distorts reality. Liking the Constitution has nothing to do with the Supreme Court’s interpretation of the Constitution.
            Judge Napolitano on the Supreme Court:
            http://mises.org/daily/6531/Judge-Napolitano-on-the-Worst-Supreme-Court-Decisions

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            NutCase is getting Nuttier all the time.

          • Don 2

            nc,

            The unfunded liabilities of the federal government – including Social Security, Medicare, and federal employees’ future retirement benefits exceeds $86.8 trillion, or 550% of GDP.

            Since there is not enough money in the entire world to pay for this, if not an eventual economic collapse, why don’t you explain how this is going to end?
            http://online.wsj.com/article/sb10001424127887323353204578127374039087636.html

        • Bill

          Good analogy, Choc

      • NC

        liz, you say Alondra is correct and then say WE ARE ALL AMERICANS! If you notice alondra, the idiot, put them in separate paragraphs with some in minor case! Why? WE ARE ALL AMERICANS!
        You don’t read much of Alondra’s stuff do you???
        BUT ADULT INDEPENDENTS DO AND IT SERVES YOU NO GOOD TO BE ALIGNED WITH THAT LOOSE CANON! HE REEKS HATRED!!

        • Nadzieja Batki

          And you do not reek of hatred.

        • Bill

          Chill out NC, remember your blood pressure

        • TheOriginalDaveH

          You are one sick puppy, NutCase.

        • http://www.rt.com Alondra

          You, 78-years-old IDIOT, why you are reading my “stuff”?

          And STOP shouting, No one is deaf here.

          Where is YOUR “happiness” which you so in details explained me.

          Oh, that was your fantasy, bitterly murky man?
          Why do not you get your life, old boob?

          P.S. You are biliously angry because you do not have what you need and want.

          • nc

            Alondra, you are the ranter!’ What makes you think I am angry? I have ALL I need and All that I want! I have the good fortune to be able to enjoy that in the greatest country in the world! I have done some traveling in my life and have seen some beautiful places BUT no country that gives me the peace of mind OF my home here in the South! BITTER I AM NOT! Grateful, VERY!!
            YOU HAVE SOME SERIOUS ISSUES AND LET ME GIVE YOU A CLUE! HANGING AROUND THIS POLITICAL BASEMENT IS NEVER GOING TO GET YOU A LEADERSHIP POSITION TO VENT AGAINST THOSE YOU HATE! SO RANT AND RAVE ON!! YOU MIGHT GET LUCKY AND DIE YOUNG FROM A RUPTURED SPLEEN BEFORE GETTING TO ENJOY THE BENEFITS OF OBOMBERCARE!
            ALLAH BE PRAISED! ( I’M METHODIST!)

          • http://www.rt.com Alondra

            YOU and your Shouting and totally insane rants make me think (and I have no any doubt) that you are VEEEERY angry and bitter man.

            Your years gave you NONE wisdom.

            Please keep read nightly the helly gospel of your apostle
            mohammed and the Methodist allaha’s piss always be upon you.

            P.S. Be sure allah hears you. Allahu akbar!

    • Puff The Tragic Dragon

      Obummer & His Racist AG, Holder The Scolder, will not rest until Whitey gets his comeuppance!!!
      The lawlessness of this administration & corrupt Chicago-style thuggish cabal is startling, they make Nixon & his crew seem like Boy Scouts & the feckless, ball-less GOP continue to let them get away with it!

      See below: Holder is STILL threatening banks to give out bad mortgages to poor minorities so they can have houses, too! Either they are the dumbest people to ever walk the earth or they are intetionally trying to destroy the nation!

      http://nypost.com/2013/04/21/re-inflating-the-bubble/

  • Shirley Ann Smith-Rhodes

    Close the Department of Education! Save a whopping 69.8 Billion Dollars per year! Return regulation, planning and supervision to our States where they closely reflect the desires and priorities of the community! Institute a Voucher system so that parents can choose where their children are educated and/or choose to home school! Church and Private Schools will flourish! The costs will be greatly reduced when we educate instead of Indoctrinate! By and large, our “dumbed down” educational system have NO COMPETITION! Their primary focus is INDOCTRINATION, NOT EDUCATION..

    Schools in America originally were established with the focus of Reading Writing And Arithmetic! Originally “Church Based” with the desire that Everyone could read the BIBLE! With a comprehensive voucher system giving parents the “choice” of where their children are educated, the current educational FAILURE of the government would see Church Schools flourish and our children’s educational training Excel!

    • liz

      This Government and the ACLU have made sure no Church influence anywhere even though our Country was founded on these principals. The Founders made sure there would be no National religion (like Sharia Law as part of the religion of Islam) but guaranteed us freedom to worship as we please. The first people came to our Country to escape religious persecution in England, of course our students are now being taught that the only reason they came here was to better themselves economically. Economics was NOT the Pilgrim’s basic reason for coming here.

      • NC

        Liz, our first settlers came here to escape religious persecution by guess who? OTHER CHRISTIANS! NOT SHARIA LAW!
        SO lets home school our children in the Christian tradition!
        First lesson: All of our troubles started when a woman ate a bad apple because a snake told her to.
        Second lesson: Her son married a woman that another God created over in the next county!
        SEE HOW EASY IT IS TO EDUCATE OUR CHILDREN!!!!

        • Bill

          That’s a pretty dumb comment, NC

          • NC

            Bill, what part is dumb? Did you read the LIZ post I was responding to? She talked of Sharia Law, our early settlers and what our children are taught!
            I did what most posters do here! I took issue with her positions!!
            I’m not surprised that you and aboriginal Dave didn’t understand! I didn’t quote the Bible for you and it didn’t come from Mises for Dave!

          • Bill

            NC,
            You have never heard me quote anything from the bible, you are confusing me with KG. He is your communist buddy that quotes the bible.
            So there you go again making stuff up to make yourself sound important. You apparently get your opinions from emotional assumptions instead of facts

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            NutCase asks — “Bill, what part is dumb?”.
            All of it.

        • TheOriginalDaveH

          You make no sense, NutCase.

      • mark

        You’re right, there is no Church influence anywhere in America today. All churches, as you know, have been closed, all worship services are now banned in the United States and have been since Obama’s January 20, 2009 inauguration. All religious radio and television shows have been banned. There is no more publication of the Bible or religious literature and pamphlets. Bibles have been banned in all motels, hotels, churches (well, they are already all closed down now anyway). How right your are, liz. A very sharp observation on your part. What can we do to get our churches opened again, and to get bibles back in book stores (oh, I forgot Obama has closed down all bookstores as well) No, all religious influence is gone in America. It is so sad to drive by all the closed churches and synagogues on Saturday and Sunday mornings now with the armed UN guards out front sent by Obama and the ACLU to take away all our religious freedoms. I can only reminisce with my children about what it was like when we had religious influence and open churches, religious radio and tv programs on the air, televangelists, religious universities like Liberty, Bob Jones University, Notre Dame, Marquette….All shut down now by Obama. Sad, indeed…. Wow.

        • TheOriginalDaveH

          It took time for Hitler to effectively take over all production also. Even terrible Tyrants can’t change things overnight.

          • mark

            Wrong again, Dave. Four weeks after Hitler’s January 30, 1933 acension to power right after the Reichstag Fire, he banned all opposition political parties, cancelled all future elections, shut down all opposition newspapers, banned all except Nazi rallies, took over all the radio outlets. Four weeks. This myth of a gradual takeover by dictators has been misproven again and again in history. They move fast and furious. Especially Hitler. He never wasted any time. Obama has been in office for 5 and a half years and has done none of this. But what does it matter, he is going to according to you and that is all that counts vs. actual reality. See below the citations for the Reichstag Fire Decree:

            http://www.jeron.je/anglia/learn/sec/history/1914ger/page15.htm
            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reichstag_Fire_Decree

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            So you’re arguing that Obama is dangerous and the destruction of our Freedom can proceed rapidly from here?

            mark says — “Wrong again, Dave”.
            DaveH said — “It took time for Hitler to effectively take over all production also”.
            Adam Tooze said — “On 18 October [1936] Goering was given Hitler’s formal authorization as general plenipotentiary for the Four Year Plan. On the following days he presented decrees empowering him to take responsibility for virtually every aspect of economic policy, including control of the business media”.
            Note that that event was 3 years after the Reichstag fire.
            So what was I wrong about, mark?

      • StinkBomb Jones

        The most misunderstood thing in our society is the separation of church & state…The Founders never meant for people, leaders & pols to never mention God in the public square, or to be afraid to do so….now, many times, you can’t because you might offend an atheist or Muslim & you will labeled a nut by the MSM!!

        The killing off of God in the public Square has negatively impacted our society & let the Godless run things!

    • Bill

      Excellent comments, Shirley
      Competition is the key to quality

    • Snoopy Sanchez

      BRAVO….Carter gave us the Dept. Of Ed. & after all those years of wasted money (who knows maybe a trillion), our kids are dumber than ever & the teachers unions are stronger than ever! Rand Paul said if elected prez, one of his first moves would be to get rid of DOE & let states decide how to educate their children & we would save a bundle in the process!

      • TheOriginalDaveH

        No matter how often the Progressive programs fail, the Progressives will always offer more of their “solutions” as the cure. They can get away with it because the electorate is too dumbed-down to put 2 and 2 together.

        • Snoopy Sanchez

          Yeah, they always double down & also they got media on their side!

    • nc

      Shirley, when our Church schools flourish will they teach the children that the worlds problems started when a snake talked a woman into eating a bad apple?? That’s what I was taught as a child in a major Church! Still a good education???? Really??? What do you teach them! That the world is only 6000 years old?? Or how old??? Will you teach them that our present education system taught the people who built a rocket/ spacecraft that just left our galaxy??? That all of our doctors were educated under the system we have and not under the system you want???

      • TheOriginalDaveH

        Is that any of your business, NutCase?
        What happens to your system of theft when all the wealth has been consumed by non-producers like yourself? I can’t believe somebody as ignorant as yourself, NutCase, would have the nerve to complain about anybody else’s education.
        NutCase says — “That all of our doctors were educated under the system we have and not under the system you want???”.
        Duh. That sounds like a good reason not to improve. NOT.

      • Snoopy Sanchez

        Is it better to teach them we descended from apes? & there is no Almighty Creator? Darwin was a bigger phony & moron than you!!!

        Me Snoopy Sanchez & me proud American & Hispanic who don’t drink nutty Lib Kool-Aid like NC. Me want no amnesty & border closed for good! Me conservative/Libertarian & wish my Hispanic brothers & sisters would stop following DEMs & think for themselves & stop killing babies in womb & pushing disgusting homo agenda!!

        • nc

          Sanchez, me daughter in law Mexico City born Hispanic> She speak 4 languages work 3 jobs! She smart! She not token Hispanic for Mr. Livingston!

          • Snoopy Sanchez

            If she smart she FOLLOW Bob L……Snoopy say, “You Loco in la Cabeza”!!!!!!!!!!

    • Guest

      The problem is that the Democrats and now RINOs do not want to
      educate children, but indoctrinate. WHY?

      “Because WHEN YOU EDUCATE A MAN, YOU LIBERATE A MAN.” –
      Benjamin Carson

      The government doesn’t want LIBERATED man, FREE man, who will think for himself. The ruling class just want obedient sheeple, who mutely will follow the orders.

      April 18, 2012 Gov. Bobby Jindal signed into law an expansion of Louisiana’s school voucher program.

      August 23, 2013 “Attorney General Eric Holder was suing to BLOCK
      the state’s SCHOOL VOUCHER PROGRAM, which aims to give LOW-INCOME kids in terrible schools the opportunity to attend BETTER public schools and even PRIVATE schools. The Justice Department claims the two-year-old program could interfere with federal DESEGREGATION orders in several Louisiana parishes, holdovers FROM the Civil Rights era.” http://www.edchoice.org/Newsroom/News/The-Holder-Jindal-Collision.aspx

      P.S. I am just wandering how many People / Parents went to Court
      with the Governor Bobby Jindal to defend the Law and their children Rights for the decent EDUCATION and stop indoctrination, for which, again American People are paying.

      The destruction of this NATION is planned by the Left-Wingers. And
      the worse part of it is that American People are paying by their hard earned money for their own destruction.

      HOW could it happen? By design – by keeping People U N E D U C A
      T E D !!!

      And People deserved it, because they voted for the ‘FREE’ Viagra,
      ‘FREE’ Contraceptives and ‘FREE’ Infanticide. And some People (millions) did not vote.

      ALL Lawlessness and Chaos that are going right now in this country is by Kommunists’ design about which the ex-KGBist Yuri Bezmenov warned American People exactly 30 (!!!) years ago:

      “You have, literally, several years to live on unless United States has to wake up. The time bomb is ticking. Every second the disaster is coming closer and closer … YOU HAVE NOWHERE TO DEFECT to … This is the last country of FREEDOM and possibility … There must be the strong national effort to EDUCATE PEOPLE … Number two – to explain the real danger of the socialist, communist, whatever welfare state – “big brother” government. If people will fail to the danger of that development, NOTHING ever will help the United States.” http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mDDBZuheQxs

      “Why is it so important that we EDUCATE our people? Because we don’t want to go down the pathway as so many pinnacle nations that have preceded us. I think particularly about ancient Rome. Very powerful. Nobody could even challenge them militarily, but what happened to them? THEY DESTROYED THEMSELVES FROM WITHIN. Moral DECAY, degeneration, falloff, FISCAL irresponsibility. THEY DESTROYED THEMSELVES. If you don’t think that can happen to America, you get out your books and you start reading, but you know, we can fix it.” – Benjamin Carson

      EAGLE able to fly high because it has two wings: a LEFT wing and a RIGHT wing. But BOTH Wings of the American EAGLE are broken.

      Is this an American exceptionalism?

  • KG

    Bob, why write an article on something you don’t even believe in?

    I thought that Public Education was something you would rather leave to the ‘open market’? That parents and children should ‘compete’ with each other and that would make a better world? You are not interested in the future of these kids anyway – isn’t America primed to implode anyway?

    Why worry about the kids in public school? If their parents didn’t “shew themselves worthy” by packing away more cans of tunafish than their neighbors, who gives a rats buttocks? Right? Isn’t that going to be the ‘standard’ for future members of the distopian apocalypse you Right-wing conservatives hope for?

    “According to teacher and author Dean Kalahar” – yea, a guy more suited to be Pinochets minister of propaganda than any kind of ‘Authority’ on education. Professor Jonathan Goodman endorsed by none other than Michelle Malkin – the same woman who claimed that John Kerry’s wounds in Vietnam were self-inflicted. Did you really think these “Unbiased” endorsement would really help you in your war against working people?

    • Alex

      A+ for KG and straight to the top of the class.

      Never heard of Dean Kalahar—looked him up—he’s a loser.

      Never heard of Johnathan Goodman. Now here, I could do the typical Fright Wing thing and say “Michelle Malkin–that is all you needed to say…” Malkin is a dirty joke. But like most on the Left, I am smarter than that, and rather than simply take your word for it, I will go and do some research—something Teagabbers are incapable of doing or at least unwilling.

      • KG

        Thanks, Bro! I may have implicated Goodman by association, but, as the poet said “…birds of a feather flock together.”

        Peace & Love

        • Vigilant

          “…birds of a feather flock together.”
          Indeed, like the carrion-eating murder of crows.

    • liz

      Part of the problem seems to be NO competition between schools or students. The excuse is “it might hurt the child’s feelings” if you don’t pass them or if you criticize their work. My grandchildren were home-schooled because they weren’t being taught, the teachers didn’t know the curriculum in public school, all they wanted to teach were tests so the school would receive more money and indoctrinate progressive liberal ideology, this appears to be the bias. When the teacher would tell them something and the child asked “why”, they were told to be quiet because they were disrupting the class. If you teach the children true history and educate them with facts on all subjects, they can pass any test and become productive citizens. BUT maybe that isn’t the goal of public education anymore!

      • KG

        OK, so Beverly Hills High School school against Jordan High school in South Central LA. Who has the advantage? who has the dis advantage?

        So, your grandkids were indoctrinated at home instead of a public school? What happens when they enter the REAL world?

        Children schooled at home do not ask ‘why’ because we all know G-d MADE IT THAT WAY!!

        The goal of public education is the same as it’s always been used in America – a place to keep young people off the streets most of the day.

        I think is people like YOU who are the ‘problem’.

        • wavesofgrain

          We became the greatest country in the world from our free market principles and culture. It enabled America to be more than generous to bestow money on all those third world countries who remain controlled by dictatorship/communism/socialism.

          If you go to Africa, you will see great modern conveniences in major cities, wealth of the ruling class, and poverty remaining everywhere else. Free enterprise/competition eliminates this. And that is why millions and millions from every part of the world are flocking here in droves. I’ve talked to many who’ve come from other countries…to work and make a better life for their children. They are horrified of this new admin’s policies. Of course, those who came here NOT to work, but to take advantage of the free support of the working taxpayers, could care less…as long as the freebies are rolling in.

          Unfortunately, we now have an admin who is he$$bent to Bchslap America down, and let world globe dominance take over. The children will be groomed like puppets of the Kom Skools of the WWII Germany.

          • Bill

            Good comments, Waves
            The joke is on the progressives. If you encourage the private sector and capitalism, you will have so much extra money to fund all of the social programs. But what do the dumb liberals do; instead of creating more gooses to lay more golden eggs they just want to kill the goose and eat it.
            Free market capitalism and the libertarian mindset are the only hope to save this country from ruin

          • KG

            I think you got it backwards. Our president HAS been encouraging the private sector through supplying capital to the financial sector. However, instead of using this money to invest back into America, they are using it to boost their profits by playing in the commodities lottery.

            America DID lay ‘golden eggs’ at one time, but the ‘investor class’ raped it for what it was worth and then sold it to the lowest bidders around the world. If we had more UNION manufacturing in America, the economy would benefit everyone.

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            More nonsense from KGB.
            That’s what Leaders do, KGB. They feather their own nests. In this case by giving Protection and Taxpayer Money to their Crony Capitalists in return for the Crony Capitalists’ aid for their re-elections.
            If we had your fantasy Communism, they wouldn’t even need to use the middle men (Crony Capitalists) in their quest for Power and Perks.

          • Vigilant

            No, you and Obama got it backwards. “supplying capital to the financial sector” merely inflates the stock market and REMOVES money from those who actually work for salaries and wages..

            He’s done his level best to deny any incentives to small business (translate: got out of the way), the REAL job creator in this country.

            If you think “supplying capital to the financial sector” encourages the private sector, then you must have adored GWB.

          • Bill

            KG,
            Your comments are so stupid, they are laughable

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            How do workers being paid more than their market worth benefit everyone? Every dollar they get extra in their salaries has to come at somebody else’s expense.

          • KG

            Every dollar that the rich man holds onto is a dollar that could be in the economy rather that his mattress. By paying workers a good wage, those dollars get to go out into the market.

            How many steaks can you eat in a week? How many steaks can 100 families eat in a week? See?

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            No, it’s a dollar that he can invest in capital equipment that produces more goods for more people, and gives people higher paying skilled jobs.
            But even if that weren’t the case, by holding on to their dollars, basically IOUs, they are forgoing compensation for those goods or services which they have sold to other voluntary purchasers.
            That would be like someone saying a person is a bad guy if he forgives somebody their debt.
            If we all produced nothing (kind of like you Union guys) but continued to consume, eventually all the wealth would be depleted and it wouldn’t matter how many dollars were stuffed under mattresses because there would be nothing to buy with them.
            Those people, who want to be smarter than KGB and his Socialist comrades would like you to be, should read this and learn reality:
            http://library.mises.org/books/Kel%20Kelly/The%20Case%20for%20Legalizing%20Capitalism.pdf

          • KG

            quote: No, it’s a dollar that he can invest in capital equipment that produces more goods for more people, and gives people higher paying skilled jobs.

            Thats half of the problem. They are spending those dollars on capital equipment – in China. While that may help HIS bottom line it does nothing for America.

            quote: But even if that weren’t the case, by holding on to their dollars, basically IOUs, they are forgoing compensation for those goods or services which they have sold to other voluntary purchasers.

            Huh?

            quote: That would be like someone saying a person is a bad guy if he forgives somebody their debt.

            I still cant decipher the Orwellian doubletalk you seem to be employing here.

            quote: If we all produced nothing (kind of like you Union guys) but continued to consume, eventually all the wealth would be depleted and it wouldn’t matter how many dollars were stuffed under mattresses because there would be nothing to buy with them.

            That’s where YOU got it wrong. Does the Dollars give value to the good or service, or does the good or service give value to the Dollar? By working for those Dollars, skilled Union workers add value to them. And if they are paid a good wage then they can afford to buy those items as well creating a flow of money rather than the dead-end of rich people holding onto those dollars. That’s why the selfishness of Libertarian economics can never work.

        • Vigilant

          As for the goals of public education:

          “The children who know how to think for themselves, spoil the harmony of the collective society that is coming, where everyone (would be) interdependent.” — John Dewey, 1899

          “Independent self-reliant people (would be) a counterproductive anachronism in the collective society of the future […] (where) people will be defined by their associations.” — John Dewey, 1896, educational philosopher, proponent of modern public schools.

          “Rather than adding my voice to those who urge us to go ‘back to basics’ I would argue that we need to move ahead to the new basics…the arts of compromise and reconciliation, of consensus building, and of planning for interdependence, a command of these talents becomes ‘basic’…As young people mature, we must help them develop…the global servant concept in which we will educate our young for planetary service and eventually for some form of world citizenship.”–Sept. 1976, Phi Delta Kappa printed “America’s Next 25 Years: Some Implications for Education,” by Harold Shane, Project Director for the NEA Bicentennial Committee.

          “The battle for humankind’s future must be waged and won in the public school classroom…between the rotting corpse of Christianity…and the new faith of humanism. Humanism will emerge triumphant.”– John Dunphy, January/February, 1983, issue of “The Humanist”

          “We do not need any more preaching about right or wrong. The old “thou shall nots” simply are not relevant. Values clarification is a method for teachers to change the values of children without getting caught.”– Dr. Sidney Simon, Lecturer, Educator

          • KG

            WOW, no ‘video’ retort but hella cut-n-paste,eh Viggy?

          • Vigilant

            Thank you for the ad hominem instead of addressing the meat of those quotations. You have, as always, confirmed your devotion to Saul Alinsky.

            If you can’t stand the heat, KG, then get out of the kitchen.

          • KG

            Just using what YOU taught me, Bro!

            And BTW Ad Hominems are not completely wrong. With an Ad Hominem attack you can show what you want to say in a few words that would probably take a book to describe.

          • Vigilant

            And will you find it convenient to actually address those quotes sometime today, or will you continue with the diversionary tactic of the propagandist?

          • KG

            For starters, most of what you have quoted is quite dated, especially those of John Dewey. The ‘goals of Education’ as being producing dependent citizens seems to elude true patriots who know that the highest form of Patriotism is in service to one’s country as many of your Prussian Militarist friends would have you agree on.

            I would agree that whatever “back to basics” means to you, the more fundamental building blocks of education should be a priority in primary schooling. It’s just so unfortunate that our modern world contains so much more information that what we were accustomed to years ago. I learned the Preamble of the Constitution from School House Rock. But whenever I mention it here, I’m ridiculed by the same people who claim to defend it.

            I would not agree on the ‘rotting corpse’ of Christianity, however, I agree in the spirit of that quote. To rid ourselves of silly superstition and harmful practices would, probably, make a better learning environment. To look at G-d, not as a ‘czar of the Heavens’, but as a philosophical concept would seem to be an appropriate way to approach any study of the supernatural.

            Children, contrary to what they will say, actually crave boundaries and restriction. By setting certain limits on our children, we teach them that their are limits in the real world as well. What say you, Bro?

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            Children do not crave boundaries and restrictions.
            But their lives are more peaceful if they know exactly what their limits are, so as to preclude them from doing the common childhood thing of testing, testing, and more testing, which no doubt causes them great anxiety.

          • Snoopy Sanchez

            When you believe in nothing (humanism), you’ll fall for anything!

            Proverbs 14:12

            New King James Version (NKJV)

            12 There is a way that seems right to a man,
            But its end is the way of death.

        • Nadzieja Batki

          Actually homeschooled kids question things more than any other but then they go out and find the answers as opposed to the human laziness that naturally occurs in people.
          Why are you afraid of homeschoolers, Cagey?

          • KG

            Because I was ‘homeschooled’ in the early 80’s. The Pentacostal Church we attended had a PACE program. I can’t remember what the acronym stood for. One day the Preacher was talking about how much money they were making off of the kids. He was trying to figure out how he could cram more kids into the little church we were attending for school. We moved away from that town, but it was an experience I’ll never forget. A daily indoctrination in Christian Propaganda. It made me so sick of church, I didn’t attend another church until I got married.

            I’m afraid of ‘homeschooled’ kids because I know what a scam it really is.

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            Am I missing something here?
            KGB says — “Because I was ‘homeschooled’ in the early 80’s”.
            And then KGB says — “He was trying to figure out how he could cram more kids into the little church we were attending for school”.
            Homeschooled? “We” were attending for school?

          • KG

            The same bunch of religious idiots that are pushing ‘homeschooling’ are the same bunch that wanted to have the ‘voucher’ system for school. They are all the same group. BTW, to be ‘homeschooled’ you need curricula – that’s where the church comes in.

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            You’re equivocating, KGB. Why should anybody believe anything you say when you state such obvious lies as that which I exposed above?

          • KG

            What lies? I told you my experience. It’s My experience so how could something that I experienced be a lie? Unless you don’t want to believe it, then that’s on you. All I was trying to point out is that in my experience with the so-called ‘homeschooled’ movement is that it’s primary motivation is NOT educating kids to prepare them for a future in the workplace but to indoctrinate them into Religious automatons incapable of critical thought. Which was my experience in the school that I attended that was based on a home school curricula.

            That’s the problem that Auburn university has gotten into since allowing the Von Misies people to be a part of the faculty. Rather than have critical thought and debate, the MONEY that comes into Auburns coffers from the Von Misies people have squelched whatever free discourse there may be in Economics.

            That’s why you need more than one perspective on things. When all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail.

          • KG

            What lies? I told you my experience. It’s My experience so how could something that I experienced be a lie? Unless you don’t want to believe it, then that’s on you. All I was trying to point out is that in my experience with the so-called ‘homeschooled’ movement is that it’s primary motivation is NOT educating kids to prepare them for a future in the workplace but to indoctrinate them into Religious automatons incapable of critical thought. Which was my experience in the school that I attended that was based on a home school curricula.

            That’s the problem that Auburn university has gotten into since allowing the Von Misies people to be a part of the faculty. Rather than have critical thought and debate, the MONEY that comes into Auburns coffers from the Von Misies people have squelched whatever free discourse there may be in Economics.

            That’s why you need more than one perspective on things. When all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail.

        • TheOriginalDaveH

          A man who has not entered the Real World asks — “What happens when they enter the REAL world?”.
          What irony.

          • KG

            KG: Morpheus, should we disconnect TODaveH?

            Morpheus: We have another rule here. We don’t disconnect Libertarians. They tend to have a problem with reality so we leave them alone.

            Cypher: …he’s gonna POP!

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            Like I said, Cagey, you are evil.

    • Vigilant

      KG says “Bob, why write an article on something you don’t even believe in?”

      And I say, KG, why respond to something you don’t even believe in?

      Typical statist psychology: do as I say, not as I do.

    • FUK FACE HARRY

      Your first line is illogical. Heck most times, Bob writes on things he does not believe in, because he does not want them shoved down people’s throats & squashing their freedoms & liberties!

      The Genie is out of the bottle & has been for quite some time, the PC Progressive, nutty Libs have way too much power & influence now & it’s only getting worse!

  • Alex

    Ooooh…they’re going to inculcate children with the concept of Social Justice!!

    Oh, my God!

    “Radical Environmentalism” as well? Oooohh…SCARY!!

    The only objectional part is the idea of creating “mind-numbed drones devoid of imagination” but I can tell you, for certain, as a man who went to public schools in the Fifties, Sixties, and Seventies, that turning our children into mind-numbed drones devoid of imagination is nothing new.

    Sad for you, Mr Livingston, but Radical Environmentalism is absolutely necessary to begin to reverse the ravages of what you want are children inculcated with: Radical Capitalism.

    I do not know if you have children or grandchildren, Bob. If you do, you— and that damned John Myers, the gold and oil speculator, as well— should be aware that your pursuit of riches has been at THEIR expense.

    You and that misanthrope Myers need to study tar sands—not the POTENTIAL financial gains, but the CERTAIN environmental disaster they represent.

    We will either inculcate our progeny with “Radical Environmentalism” or we will cease to exist. So sad that a charlatan who claims to be “Christian” ignores everything Jesus Magdalena Christ said—-and you are worried about schools based upon Secular Humanism? That is what church schools are for!

    So tell all your Fright Wingers to set up their own stupid schools, where they can inculcate their inbred offspring in the Social INjustice you would prefer…

    • Alex

      Ooops…fifth paragraph, second line should read “our children”, not “are children”.

      • liz

        Funny

      • Vigilant

        Use the edit function. That’s what it’s there for.

    • S.C.Murf

      Damn common core is working look at what it has done to poor alex. All is lost.
      My wife is a Early Childhood Development Teacher and has been for the last 25 years, she tells me that the new common core is a disaster for our children. They will come out well below the average of the rest of the developing nations. There has been some sort of a core program for quite some time now, trying to get a handle on where the kids were at. Now they are taking it to a new level. Their agenda is to keep all kids on the same level. Sorry alex we have winners and we have loser’s, we have achievers and we have slackers, that’s the way it is,was and always has been.Alex because you never achieved or never felt OK with yourself doesn’t mean you have to drag everyone down to your level. You live your life and leave the rest of us alone to live ours. OK?

      up the hill
      airborne

      • Don 2

        NC, you’re talking like a Conservative.

        • Vigilant

          There DISQUS goes again. Mr. Livingston, please get a new application for this site. It regularly misidentifies posters and creates a world of confusion.

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            I did an experiment — reloading the page — and the IDs came out correct. That doesn’t prove anything but it may be a solution.

          • Vigilant

            Sometimes it works for me, sometimes it takes awhile.

        • Don 2

          Sorry Murf…..this DISQUS sucks!

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            I have found that to be safe before you comment on another’s comment — reload the page.

          • S.C.Murf

            It’s cool Don 2 Have a good day Sir

            up the hill
            airborne

    • StinkBomb Jones

      Yeah, “radcial environmentalism” is scary…Al Gore & his BS & influence scares the crap out of me!! As for Social Justice, the LOONY TUNES LIBs version of it invariably involves an insane blame-game upon white men & social engineering & forced diversity that is invariably unjust & illogical & hurts many innocent people in society

      As for the sexual perversity: it’s been going on for decades now & not only in schools, but Hollywood, Madison ave. TV & music, alas, it can’t be stopped, & that is why over 60% of youth believe there is nothing wrong with homosexuality, transgenderism or same-sex marriage.

      The death of God in the public square has brought down the barricades of decency, the standards of morality, when you believe in nothing, you’ll fall for anything….the following was written in 1970 & it has only gotten much worse…after all, the 2012 DEM Convention killed off any mention of God. Our culture in the hands of the radical lefties is one straight from The Pit of Death & Hell:

      BROKEN BARRICADES (by Keith Reid)
      _________________________________________
      It was all once bright jewels
      And glittering sand
      The oceans have ravaged
      And strangled the land
      Waste fills the temples,
      Dead daughters are born
      The presses are empty
      The editors torn

      Whose husband was the first to fall?
      Who died the worst death of them all?
      How many splinters in each separate band?
      How many stations in the final hand?

      Now gather up sea shells,
      And write down brave words
      Your prayers are unanswered,
      Your idols absurd
      The seaweed and the cobweb,
      Have rotted your sword
      Your barricades broken,
      Your enemies lord.

    • Bill

      Alex,
      I can see that you are a “Watermelon”. Green on the outside and commie red on the inside. Kg is also a part of that group

    • Don 2

      Alex, do you or any of you other “Radical Environmentalist” whackos care to comment on the following?

      According to the U.K. Daily Mail on 9-07-13, “a chilly Artic summer has left nearly a million more square miles of ocean covered with ice than at the same time last year – an increase of 60%.”

      The Danish Meteorological Institute reported the summer 2013 Artic temperature as the lowest since 2004, and more analysts are predicting a cooling trend rather than a warming one.

      In August the Danish paper Jyllands-Posten reported: “Defying all predictions, the globe may be on the road towards a new ‘little ice age’ with much colder winters.

      -Danish astrophysicist Henrik Svensmark observed that the UN Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change [IPCC] and others have overestimated the influence of CO2 on climate and underestimated the influence of the sun. Svensmark says, “Historically there has been a close connection between solar activity and temperature for the last 1,000 years.”

      Climate author John Casey, a former White House and NASA advisor, said that the earth’s weather has not been influenced by pollution from carbon dioxide but by a normal cyclical pattern of warmth. Now that the sun has entered a state of ‘solar hibernation’ and is cutting back on the energy by which it warms the earth, a new and potentially dangerous decades-long drop in global temperatures has begun. The atmosphere and the oceans are cooling rapidly.

      German meteorologists say that the start of 2013 is now the coldest in 208 years. Russian scientist Dr. Habibullo Abdussamatov from the St. Petersburg Pulkovo Astronomical Observatory states that this is proof that we are heading for a ‘mini ice age.’

      Britain had their fifth freezing winter in a row. The Central England Temperature record shows that in this century, average winter temperatures have dropped by 1.45 C, more than twice as much as their rise between 1850 and 1999, and twice as much as the entire net rise in global temperatures recorded in the 20th. century.

      • Alex

        Silly Teabaggers do not know the difference between ‘climate’ and ‘weather’…

    • Nadzieja Batki

      Your comments are getting disjointed in proportion to your desperation. Two possibilities, you may be failing this particular social science class or your handlers have given you warning that you are failing as a troll.

    • Nadzieja Batki

      People, Alex has come full circle and believes in the God of the Bible with the rules he gave mankind the Ten Commandments since these are the standard for Social Justice and environmentalism. The reality will not bare this out because Alex’s and his Dem/Prog/Leftist definition of Social Justice and environmentalism is a counterfeit.

  • Alex

    The public schools have always performed as role shapers.

    The children were sized-up, year after year, to see where they would fit into our morally vacant society. First, they were molded to become obedient little patriots, taught to not question the validity of our claims of Righteousness. Never mind the horrific story of just how this Evil Empire was formed.

    The real thrust of our public education became quite clear as years went by: separate the young minds according to future potential for Capital Gain—some children would exhibit fine minds that were sure to go on to positions of great influence. Clubs like DECA immediately tried to steer these kids into Finance.
    Others were seen as potential baby-killers for our mercenary military and were manipulated accordingly. A good number of the students were problematic: these were the malcontents, the artistic, the unmotivated, the socially ostracized, the the inflexible, the iconoclasts, the violent, the writers, the substance abusers, the zealots. The future for these children would be Pulitzer Prizes or prisons, Sunday mass or mass shootings, untold glory or early deaths. The schools did what they could with the more violent, the bullies and gangsters; these would be funneled when possible into the military, after showing them that their alternative was a life of crime and certain incarceration.

    The bulk of the children, however, were formed into perfect little Capitalist consumer drones—taught that the only honorable thing in Life was to work to make money to spend on crap.

    This Common Core seems like a much better choice. Too bad for you guys….

    • TheOriginalDaveH

      Alex says — “The children were sized-up, year after year, to see where they would fit into our morally vacant society”.
      That coming from a guy who votes for Big Government to steal other people’s money and Force his own personal choices on other people. You’re classic, Alex.

      • Vis Fac

        Because Alex in La LA Land is not Morally vacant but Morally bankrupt!!! See my previous remark.

        Libertas inaestimabilis res est
        Semper-Fi

    • Nadzieja Batki

      The family is role shaper, any other entity is a usurper.

    • Nadzieja Batki

      So tell us why are the schools failing when they have had more than a century to correct failures to bring their utopian visions to fruition?

      • Vis Fac

        Alex resides in LA La Land and has been PROGRAMMED by the liberal one dimensional indoctrination camps masquerading as public schools. As a result Alex in La La Land is as vapid as algae.

        Libertas inaestimabilis res est
        Semper-Fi

  • Matforce

    Have you read about the deception ALEC has sprung on the unsuspecting masses with their state by state education report card?
    ALEC (The American Legislative Exchange Council) was established four decades ago to connect corporate players with lobbyists and legislators, trading political influence for funding from foundations with corporate connections, big business and its associations, and some of the nation’s wealthiest individuals. It has been eying the public education system for years as an untapped source for profits.
    They routinely hand out failing grades to states to fabricate a need for their members’ “services.”
    Since 2008, ALEC “report cards” have been giving higher grades to states that have opened up their public school system to privatization.
    States that have passed laws to support virtual schools and voucher schemes, for example, receive higher grades than those with high-performing schools but few or no market-based education policies. In fact, the 25 states with the top performing schools are ranked lower than the 25 states with the lowest performing schools in ALEC’s most recent report card.
    By using this “report card,” ALEC paints a false picture of failure, then seize the opportunity to “sell” their solution, calling on their “connected” elected officials in office to introduce their “model legislation that creates an opportunity, not for students, but for corporate interests and profit potential.
    The solution they sell is K12; Inc., a virtual academy for sale to “help failing schools.”
    After receiving tens of thousands of dollars in campaign donations from virtual learning company K12 Inc., Governor Bob McDonnell requested the introduction of ALEC model legislation to expand virtual education in 2010. It passed in the Virginia legislature, and K12 Inc. swiftly set up shop in one of the state’s most impoverished counties to maximize the public money it would receive.
    The Carroll County School Board voted to close down K12′s Virginia Virtual Academy just four years after its opening, due to financial and administrative burden and the fact that the Virtual Academy fared worse than traditional schools on 20 out of 22 measures.

    • Alex

      ALEC=NSDAT

      • KG

        ALEC + NSDAT = NSDAP

        • Vigilant

          ALEX + KG = DUMB (Dysfunctional, undereducated midget brains)

          • KG

            Dog Poop + Conservative thinking = Rush Limbaugh.

          • Nadzieja Batki

            You listen to Rush more than other people do. Why is that? You are actually afraid that Rush is right and correct on the issues of the day and he has pegged you Dem/Prog/Leftist in your ideology.

          • KG

            MMMmm….What? What did you say? Oh, the wailing of another ‘ditto’ head. I have pegged him on his right wing/Republican/Libertarian/Nazi ideology. As well as Rush’s proclivity to visit 3rd world nations that permit child prostitution carrying bottles of Viagra as well as Oxyconton!

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            Funny how perceptions differ. KGB thinks he’s cute. I think he’s evil.

          • KG

            ROTFLMAO! AFK! BRB!

          • Vis Fac

            I see morons like you are easily amused. The vacuum between your ears induces your amusement center to view facts and reality as humor to be scoffed at.

            Libertas inaestimabilis res est
            Semper-Fi

          • Vis Fac

            I see morons like you are easily amused. The vacuum between your ears induces your amusement center to view facts and reality as humor to be scoffed at.

            Libertas inaestimabilis res est
            Semper-Fi

          • KG

            I would bet that you would be amorous with your little brother and not give him a reach around!

          • Matforce

            Gotta love all the ad hominem rhetoric that permeates the discourse of the militant faithful on these neocon forums. Heartwarming!!!

          • KG

            This is high comedy!

          • Vis Fac

            Assailing me with pejorative labeling does
            nothing to give credibility to your position or argument; however in your doing so gives a wealth of credence to mine.

            Libertas inaestimabilis res est
            Semper-Fi

          • KG

            A rose is a rose: By any other name, it would still be a rose.

          • Vis Fac

            As You have trouble recognizing and relating to reality I doubt you know what a rose is!

            Libertas inaestimabilis res est
            Semper-Fi

          • Vis Fac

            I see you have come to the realization that my (and other’s) assessment of you is correct. It’s about time you admitted to it.

            Libertas inaestimabilis res est
            Semper-Fi

          • Vis Fac

            Liberals-Socialists-Communists Always use pejorative labeling because they are incapable of lucid debate. They take this defensive posture to try and mask their inadequacies and to make themselves feel better of themselves.

            They fail to realize when doing so they lose credibility while providing substantiation of your/our/my positions.

            Libertas inaestimabilis res est
            Semper-Fi

          • Vis Fac

            UNEDUCATED not undereducated

            Libertas inaestimabilis res est
            Semper-Fi

          • Vigilant

            I think you’ve hit upon it!

    • Vigilant

      ALEC probably frowns on plagiarism as well. Source your comment.

    • TheOriginalDaveH

      Don’t know about the plagiarism accusation, but here’s an article that says much the same about ALEC:
      http://educationvotes.nea.org/2013/07/23/report-alec-education-taskforce-fabricates-problems-to-sell-solutions/
      Who knows the truth? But it goes without saying that a Government which controls the education of our children is a Government which will propagandize them to advocate Big Government.
      http://mises.org/journals/jls/7_1/7_1_3.pdf

  • wavesofgrain

    CommonCore sounds like the 30’/40’s German Kom Schools in which the Fuhr required parents to surrender their children.

    American History will be phased out. American Literature will be cut 50% (more later), to be replaced by “issues of the day”, similar to what California is doing to their children…teaching how to sell Obamacare to family and friends, Trayvon Martin courses, Global Warming indoctrination, etc etc. So, you think your child can’t add, write, do math, etc, now, do you? Just wait ’till CC Skool Kamps get done with them.

    And one thing not mentioned below…these CC schools will require your child to register to vote before graduating. And all of this information will be at the fingertips of the militant UNION teachers! Just look at what the militant UNION IRS did to political affiliants they did not like…harassed them. All parents should question the motives of this CC to meddle in our political lives…it is clear to me what they are doing!

    “”””*Political affiliations or beliefs of the student or parent.
    Mental and psychological problems of the student or the student’s family.
    Sex behavior or attitudes.

    **Illegal, anti-social, self-incriminating and demeaning behavior.
    Critical appraisals of other individuals with whom respondents have close family relationships.

    *Legally recognized privileged or analogous relationships, such as those of lawyers, physicians and ministers.
    *Religious practices, affiliations or beliefs of the student or the student’s parent.

    *Income (other than that required by law to determine eligibility for participation in a program or for receiving financial assistance under such program).”””””

    • hungry4food

      Common Core indoctrination is everywhere and has been taking root for some time now . The pledge in this gets interesting from frame 3:00

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51kAw4OTlA0#t=22

      And when you listen to the Pledge compare it to whats being said here , http://redalertpolitics.com/2013/09/27/duke-professor-claims-racism-the-same-now-as-in-the-1960s/

    • mark

      No, the German Schools of the 1930s and 1940s taught kids to support the extermination of Jews and inferior races: Slavs, blacks, browns, gypsies, homosexuals, etc. This new Obama curriculum will do the opposite – celebrate racial, religious, and sexual diversity. This is an important distinction despite the fact that many regular posters on this site still firmly support the Nazi curriculum. Newsflash: Obama is NOT a supporter of white supremacy. Gee, wonder why? This must create quite a pickle for many of the contributors here.

      • TheOriginalDaveH

        Yeah sure, mark. That’s why he blindly stuck up for Professor Gates and Trayvon Martin — because he’s unbiased. That’s why the races have been “brought together” — because Obama is unbiased. Only a Liberal Progressive would believe such nonsense.

        • mark

          I notice you have zero to say about what U.S. schools teach American children compared to what Nazi schools taught German children, wavesofgrain’s whole erroneous thesis that I responded to. How convenient. How typical. P.S. Obama did not blindly stick up for Gates and Martin. He did so knowingly (African Americans are a key part of his electoral coalition like gun supporters and big business are for the Repubicans – guess that makes Romney and Rand Paul biased) – and Obama was also correct on both cases although the jury certainly did not agree with him on the latter.

          • Vigilant

            “and Obama was also correct on both cases although the jury certainly did not agree with him on the latter.”

            Typical bigotry of the left.

          • Vis Fac

            Not Bigotry anti white to the point of racial bias toward the black community, no doubt to fuel racial tensions for possible martial law intervention should things become (pre-planned) violent.

            Libertas inaestimabilis res est
            Semper-Fi

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            Do I need to respond to all of your conjecture, mark?
            Anybody, with half a brain, knows that Public Schools are going to indoctrinate their children to believe what Big Government people think will be most favorable to themselves.
            It is telling that Liberal Progressives like yourself fear Capitalists who have no Power over us, but then embrace members of the Gang (Government) who indeed have great Powers of Force over us.

          • mark

            It is “conjecture” that Nazi public schools taught white Aryan racial superiority and American public schools today do not? In fact U.S. government (and private) schools teach our children that such white supremacist thinking is wrong and immoral. This is conjecture?!

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            You do not know comprehensibly what either taught/teaches, mark.
            And judging from your comment history, I wouldn’t take your word for anything.

          • Vis Fac

            For the last 30 years or so we have had the fox guard the hen house. Or allowed liberals to BRAINWASH our children and produce the functionally illiterate to control. This is how you build an army of automatons ready to do your bidding.

            My children were all home schooled and tutored. Our grand children are as well. They will know how to discern fact from fallacy and recognize they are the master of their destiny. Our five year old grand daughter now recognizes when someone is not telling the truth. We have NEVER lied to our children they don’t lie to us either as there is no need.

            Politicians continually lie to further their own agendas

            Libertas inaestimabilis res est
            Semper-Fi

          • Vis Fac

            For the last 30 years or so we have had the fox guard the hen house. Or allowed liberals to BRAINWASH our children and produce the functionally illiterate to control. This is how you build an army of automatons ready to do your bidding.

            My children were all home schooled and tutored. Our grand children are as well. They will know how to discern fact from fallacy and recognize they are the master of their destiny. Our five year old grand daughter now recognizes when someone is not telling the truth. We have NEVER lied to our children they don’t lie to us either as there is no need.

            Politicians continually lie to further their own agendas

            Libertas inaestimabilis res est
            Semper-Fi

          • JeffH

            Boy DaveH, you really know how to bring out the best in the ignorant liberal/progressives…and oh how they love to hate you!
            LMAO!

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            I think what aggravates them the most is that they can’t beat me down with all their adolescent manipulative techniques.
            As I get older, though, and reach senility, I’m sure one day I will snap and think I’m back in Grammar School with them.

          • Vis Fac

            One thing I have learned is that you never argue with a moron for if you do they manage to bring you down to their level them beat you with experience.

            Libertas inaestimabilis res est
            Semper-Fi

          • JeffH

            No doubt but they keep trying to. I doubt you’ll ever “snap” back to the playground days…lower yourself to that level but it is amusing to watch them revert back to such childish ways. Just their immoral way of deflecting away from truth.

          • Briylaln

            Really doesn’t matter what was taught then or what is being taught now. What matters is the government wanting control of your children and in turn, wanting the children to turn in their parents because they don’t think or believe the same way.

          • Vis Fac

            “I calmly say, ‘Your child belongs to us already. What you are, you will pass on. Your descendents, however, now stand in the new camp. In a short time they will know nothing else but this new community.'” – Adolf Hitler November 06, 1933 The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich

            “This new Reich will give its youth to no one, but will itself take youth and give youth its own education and its own upbringing.” Adolf Hitler May 01, 1937 The Rise and
            Fall of the Third Reich

            Libertas inaestimabilis res est
            Semper-Fi

          • Don 2

            “P.S. Obama did not blindly stick up for Gates and Martin. He did so knowingly (African Americans are a key part of his electoral coalition like gun supporters and big business are for the Republicans – guess that makes Romney and Rand Paul biased) – and Obama was also correct on both cases although the jury certainly did not agree with him on the latter.”

            From this statement you clearly identify that Obama did what he did in the Gates and Martin incidents simply because he is a racist seeking the black vote on trumped up racial allegations, and then you proceed to say that, even without having all of the facts in the case, Obama is above a jury, and in essence, above the law.

          • Benji Franklin

            Yeah, he wanted to energize his base & make sure they came out to vote knowing they always vote at least 90% DEM, and in his case even more….hell, the Lib policies have brainwashed them to the point where they cannot think for themselves & Repubs. are the nasty enemy that is trying to kill them off! This new curriculum will make sure it continues that way!

          • Gassy Garnett

            I gots a newsflash for ‘ya!!! He was wrong on both accounts & he should’ve shut his pie hole & let justice be done…your statements are not only factually wrong, but intellectually dishonest.

            Above all else, OBOZO is a politician…he does not make one move or statement that is not politically motivated..NOT ONE…there has never been a prez anywhere like this. He is modern day Nero, who could not give a rat’s ass about you or anyone else or their suffering. I truly believe that if he cannot fundamentally change the nation the way he wants to, he would not care one iota if it is destroyed!

          • Vis Fac

            He’s doing a bang up job of doing that isn’t he? Too bad all these automatons can’t realize they’ve been played!!!

            Libertas inaestimabilis res est
            Semper-Fi

          • Vis Fac

            One in the same Mark You don’t realize this fact because you are a product of liberal one dimensional indoctrination camps that masquerades as public schools You have been dumbed down to the point of being functionally illiterate. This is why you have no reasoning power and cannot offer lucid rebuttal.

            Libertas inaestimabilis res est
            Semper-Fi

          • JeffH

            mark, mark, mark says DUH! With ignorant progressive morons like you, and especially you, it’s always about your own racial bias and your own sexual equality preferences…always forced on the rest of us through the hand of government.

            Of course you can’t see Obama’s actions as dividing the races in America…white, black and latino…you blindly defend Obama because you are an Obamaphile and a racist yourself.

            How Obama Poisoned Race Relations in America
            A poll by the progressive & pro-Obama NBC News and the Wall Street Journal reveals that public perceptions about race relations in America have taken a devastating hit since the election of Barack Obama.

            At the beginning of the president’s first term, 79 percent of whites and 63 percent of blacks had a positive view of American race relations. Those numbers have plummeted to 52 percent and 38 percent, respectively.

            Well before the Trayvon Martin shooting, Obama made clear he would use the presidency to provide a platform for the race agitation industry.
            http://frontpagemag.com/2013/arnold-ahlert/how-obama-poisoned-race-relations-in-america/
            This is what “Marxist community organizer’s do”…agitate…and that is Obama’s greatest skill!

            You are so “transparent” mark, mark, mark…easy to see right through you and the reason you, too, are in a class of ignorant liberal/progressive commenter’s with absolutely no credibility whatsoever here at PLD!

          • Robert Messmer

            He was wrong on Martin because no one associated with the case–not the Judge, not the Prosecutor, not Mr. Zimmerman and not his Attorney ever said the case was based on Florida’s Stand Your Ground Law. Obama did. He was right, the thug could indeed have been his son. The law said Mr. Zimmerman was right.

      • Vigilant

        “This new Obama curriculum will do the opposite – celebrate racial, religious, and sexual diversity.”

        And if you think that is what constitutes the goal of public education, then you would fit real well into Pol Pot’s re-education camps.

        • Vis Fac

          Liberalism espouses immorality sloth and vanity. It is quite easy to do nothing and blame others for your misfortune and difficult to rise to the top and be successful. The vast majority is liberal because it’s easy (for now)!!

          Libertas inaestimabilis res est
          Semper-Fi

        • Nadzieja Batki

          I always thought that education meant getting wisdom, being able to read anything that was and is written and being able to sift what knowledge is valuable and what is dross.

      • Pumpkin Puss

        No, it’s not a “celebration” they are after, but a shoving down our throats UNJUST affirmative action type things & blame western whiteChristian man….Obummer is not a supporter of White Supremacy, but hatred of whites & the West!!

        as Vigilant says below, this is not proper education….but, they have an agenda & they got the media in their back pockets too & they are desperate to get it in place by hook or crook!

      • Robert Messmer

        If you are correct in that “This new Obama curriculum will do the opposite” it would mean teaching kids to support the extermination of Christians and whites.

    • Vis Fac

      “I calmly say, ‘Your child belongs to us already. What you
      are, you will pass on. Your descendent’s, however, now stand in the new camp. In a short time they will know nothing else but this new community.'” – Adolf Hitler November 06, 1933 The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich

      “This new Reich will give its youth to no one, but will itself take youth and give youth its own education and its own upbringing.” Adolf Hitler May 01, 1937 The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich

      Libertas inaestimabilis res est
      Semper-Fi

  • Nadzieja Batki

    When the governmental agencies keep fixing things that are supposedly broke and they were in charge of them aren’t they in effect admitting that they are screw ups and not to be trusted with even moving a rock.

    • Vis Fac

      Government does not “fix” anything. Government creates problems so they create more departments or committees so they can put more people on the government payroll to assess problems it has created then we have additional problems created by new agencies and so on and so on A HUGE snowball rolling down the mountain growing larger and larger (until it hits something then everything is destroyed

      Too bad liberals are so myopic and have no foresight!!!

      Libertas inaestimabilis res est
      Semper-Fi

  • IBCAMN

    i try to teach my daughter all the right things in life,family values and to see the diffirence between right and wrong and responsability and so forth.she love’s horses and money doesn’t mean much to her, yet!i’m a single father so a little girl in my life is a new thing for me too!i found out how a school can turn on you.the school my daughter goes to has drasticly change in the last two tears,from a charter type to a nazi camp and am now looking to move and move her to a better school,home schooling around here isn’t a common thing(unlike California)and am looking for a home school teacher.all the things in this article are happening in this school and schools in the area!time for change!were moving!

    • TheOriginalDaveH

      So you are teaching your daughter to steal other people’s money and Force her personal choices on other people — The Liberal Progressive way?
      Sorry, IBCAMN, your ID originally showed as mark, the known Liberal Progressive, so out of that context my comment is erroneous.

      • Nadzieja Batki

        TODH, your first instinct may be correct because this does not appear to be written by a father. An immature social studies student may be more like it. If “he” is so concerned for his daughter’s well being why hasn’t he been making an effort in correcting his failings starting with the comment he made with grammatical errors. And no he won’t make a better life for his daughter if he doesn’t start with himself realizing what is the better life.

      • Karolyn

        So, Dave, you responded to the comment in a negative fashion because you thought Mark wrote it, and when you found out it was IBCAMN, it was OK? Wow!

        • TheOriginalDaveH

          No, Karolyn, my original remark was based on the context of previous comments by mark, which history I don’t have for IBCAMN.
          But that was a nice Failed try at condescension on your part, Karolyn. Time to bitch-slap your Magic Mirror. It’s lying to you again.

  • TheOriginalDaveH

    So while they’re brainwashing our children into believing that Socialism is the desired route, those countries that have tried the miserable system are now trending back towards Capitalism.
    Smart people learn from other people’s mistakes. Ignorant people must make their own, and even then often don’t learn.
    Excellent and hopeful article by Lew Rockwell in 2004:
    http://www.mises.org/freemarket_detail.aspx?control=482

    • KG

      Lew Rockwell or George Rockwell ? I have a hard time telling them apart?

      • TheOriginalDaveH

        That sounds like a personal problem to me, Cagey.

      • Emerson Hopfmann

        That is a stupid smear.

      • Emerson Hopfmann

        That is a stupid smear.

        • KG

          Stupid? Or factual? Which one scares you the most?

    • Briylaln

      Really something that socialism has been tried time and time and always fails. Leave it to our politicians to believe after so many failures, that this time it will actually work.

      • TheOriginalDaveH

        I doubt they really believe that, Briylaln.
        With Socialism comes great Power and Perks for the Leaders. I think they know full well that Socialism doesn’t work. They just don’t care. Witness Cuba and North Korea.

    • Vis Fac

      Those running the non-education indoctrination system that passes for education have simply lost whatever minds they once possessed; and their ridiculous, mind-numbed zero-tolerance policies are causing kids and parents all manner of hardship and even resulting in criminal
      records for victimless non-crimes. And the governments of New York and California have long ago divested themselves of common sense and restraint.

      We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid. Benjamin Franklin

      Libertas inaestimabilis res est
      Semper-Fi

  • Briylaln

    I live in California where it is not a “Right to work” state. Unfortunately, I do not consider myself a union member, but I am required to pay dues or be terminated. I currently hold a job as a utility planner (which I love). To get to this level, I was required to take a test and then pass the class. When the union realized that not enough people were passing the test, they negotiated a dumbed down test so more people could pass. What I do, requires brains and technical abilities. With the new people coming on board after taking the dumbed down test – it shows the inability of these individuals to do the job. But, since it’s union, they just do inferior work, get paid the same and don’t have to worry about being terminated or being put into a lower classification.

    • Vis Fac

      So You live in the PRCM (Peoples Republic of Calimexico) once upon a time when people were responsible and realistic I used to live there, had an engineering firm too. Taxes and moronic regulations sent me packing for greener pastures. Those who could relocate with us did those who couldn’t lost a good job so the PRCM not only lost my businesses income, property, sales taxes they lost the income taxes of nearly 100 employees. What you have reported here does not surprise me one bit as the PRCM (the liberals in charge) have their collective heads embedded in their collective rectums These are examples of liberal one dimensional idiot-ology.

      Now we focus on the article; unfortunately we already have the dumbing down of society perpetrated by the liberal indoctrination camps masquerading as public schools. I don’t know how much further you can wreck an educational system even at the hands of those who have completely destroyed traditional education already I suppose if there is a liberal official who has yet to leave his or her legacy there will be yet another way do do so.

      Libertas inaestimabilis res est
      Semper-Fi

      • Briylaln

        Born and raised in southern california in the mid 50’s. My mom moved to Texas approx 12 years ago. After going to visit, I fell in love with the people and communities that I visited while I was there, I ended up buying a home on acerage about 40 miles east of Dallas in a small place called Farmersville. I’ve put so much time in ths company that I can’t leave, but my countdown is another 6 years until retirement. Within 30 days after I retire, my house and all furnishings will be given to my son – I’ll take my sled on a trailor, load my clothes in the bed of my truck and tell this once proud state to kiss my rearend. Like a 5 year old the day before christmas, I can’t wait.

        • Vis Fac

          I had the luxury of deciding when and where I would relocate I’m sorry you don’t The liberals of PRCM think that people with means are stupid enough to stay in Commiefornia to get beat up on taxes.

          Tiger Woods Jack Nicholas and other notables have fled to Florida where they are welcome and not taxed to death.

          The only thing Commiefornia has is the weather the people are mostly rude and selfish and above all stupid. Example almost 30 years ago Commiefornia instituted a Lottery to pay for schools True to Liberal form schools did not receive the money because of liberal public unions took the lions share of the funds the politicians the rest.

          Last November’s election Gov. Jerry Brown threatened to de-fund schools (even though they were SUPPOSED to be funded by lottery proceeds) if he didn’t get his tax initiative Prop. 30 passed. He said the schools would get all the tax money from Prop. 30 and true to liberal mantra others programs received those funds in stead. Yet another example of lying liberalism. You cannot believe ANY politician period.

          Libertas inaestimabilis res est
          Semper-Fi

      • nc

        Force! they really miss your business! They are the 7th largest economy in the world! How have they made it without you?
        The Liberal Legacy is the Number One Country in the world! It’s a pity that your mind never grew to understand the concept! What a great ride it has been seeing my country get to a place no other country has ever reached! I’m very proud of its progressive achievements!

        • TheOriginalDaveH

          Broken down to GDP per capita, California is ranked 12th among the states. Alaska, by the way, is ranked 3rd.
          http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_by_GDP#2013_list
          Given that California has many advantages over the other states — Portside for world trade, mostly sunny weather, international melting pot giving the advantages of diverse cultures and divisions of labor — one would think they would rank much higher on a per capita basis than number 12.

          NutCase still hasn’t figured out that gross output, not based on a per capita basis, is meaningless. For instance China has the 2nd largest economy in the world. But they also have 4 times as many people as the population of the US.
          When you consider China on a per capita basis they compare to 3rd World countries.
          http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(PPP)_per_capita

          • WTS/JAY

            U.S. is ranked 28th in the world as far as economy, and 24th in education. Yet, nc, still thinks we are #1 in the world. The poor man lives in the past.

    • Don 2

      That sounds similar to Buffalo, NY where they dumbed-down the test for union police officers, and instituted different passing grades in order to hire more minorities. The aftermath was: cops caught on video stealing items from parked cars, cops streaking naked, cops abusing their authority….exactly what you would expect from not hiring the best and the brightest.

      • Nadzieja Batki

        But then you (generic you) would have to discriminate and the Dems/Progs/Leftists can’t have that.

        • Robert Messmer

          No you go back to a real test and hire anyone who can legitimately pass it. Oh, wait New York, sorry n/m.

    • Todd Hill

      Unions breed mediocrity

    • wavesofgrain

      Public Unions should never have been allowed. They have become a militant arm of the Democratic Party. Members do NOT work for the taxpayers, but for their Union Bosses.

    • heath

      I believe you know that half of the so called dumbed down ones are a lot better then you and you wish you could be one percent as good as them.

      • JeffH

        heath-n?

  • WHITE WOMEN EVERYWHERE

    I wonder how many radical leftists who rail about the NSA spying are in favor of this gleaning of sensitive info about the children? My guess is almost all would not care, as long as it furthers their insane & satanic agenda to control the kids & make sure they kill off God!

  • Honest Homer Huxsucker

    Hey, this curriculum seems highly appropriate, after all, won’t this prepare them for college, where the lefty, Godless brainwashing & elitist humanism& stifling of any true debate or discourse is even more intense?

  • TML

    “Stanford University professor James Milgram, the only mathematician on the validation panel, concluded that the Common Core math scheme would place American students two years behind their peers in other high-achieving countries.”

    Auspices of globalization indeed; if they aren’t even developing standards on a basis that would require student performance to levels at, or above, those of other countries, the curriculum ought to be rejected on that basis alone.

    “Or, as Grayslake, Ill., curriculum director and Common Core proponent Amanda August told one group in explaining Common Core: “Even if they said 3 X 4 was 11, if they were able to explain their reasoning, and explain how they came up with their answer, really in words and in oral explanation… we’re really more focused on the explanation and the how and the why.””

    That’s just scary

    • Puff The Tragic Dragon
      • TML

        So as not to derail today’s topic; you’re welcome to respond directly to my comments in last Friday’s topic, and let me know exactly what you think I’m wrong about. I’ll respond there. http://personalliberty.com/2013/09/27/obamas-please-kick-me-appearance-at-the-u-n/

        Your link, however, (which refers to “Mullah’s”) is downright racist, very misleading, inaccurate, and hardly any kind of objective take on the issue.

        • Snoopy Sanchez

          Poppycock & Balderdash!!!

    • TheOriginalDaveH

      The biggest problem is the mass production of education as if all students will follow the same path in life. 90% of education is based on material that most of the students will never use again. What a horrific waste of time and money. We can’t educate children with assembly-line techniques. Every child has a unique skill set and desires. Rather than trying to turn them out like McDonald’s hamburgers, we should be nurturing their natural talents, and allowing them to become the best they can be.
      The most effective thing we could do is take education out of the hands of Government people and subject it to the rigors of Free Markets.

      • TML

        I don’t see an inherent problem with government public schools so long as it sticks to Knowledge-Base curriculum, and doesn’t involve the Federal government, which has no constitutional authority concerning education. Families unable to afford the ‘rigors of Free Market education’ should still have education available.

        “A general diffusion of knowledge being essential to the preservation of the liberties and rights of the people, it shall be the duty of the Legislature of the State to establish and make suitable provision for the support and maintenance of an efficient system of public free schools.” – Texas Constitution Article 7 Section 1 – ‘Education’

        “I think by far the most important bill in our whole code is that for the diffusion of knowledge among the people. No other sure foundation can be devised, for the preservation of freedom and happiness…Preach, my dear Sir, a crusade against ignorance; establish & improve the law for educating the common people. Let our countrymen know that the people alone can protect us against these evils [tyranny, oppression, etc.] and that the tax which will be paid for this purpose is not more than the thousandth part of what will be paid to kings, priests and nobles who will rise up among us if we leave the people in ignorance.” – Thomas Jefferson to George Wythe, August 13, 1786

        • TheOriginalDaveH

          “No other sure foundation can be devised, for the preservation of freedom and happiness”.
          Even the best of our Founders weren’t always on target. Nothing Government does preserves Freedom. The concept is an oxymoron.
          If you want education for the masses, that can easily be accomplished by providing vouchers for the parents to send their children to the private school of their choice. I’ve been to both Private School and Public School, and the latter didn’t even come close to the former in the teaching of Freedom.

          Glenn Beck on Common Core:
          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQFNuTAobJU

          • Vis Fac

            Neither do Magnet or Charter Schools. which are still politically controlled. The best education is from a private source religious schools have their agenda and propaganda courses (BTDT and was quite unhappy) which interferes with the curriculum that needs to be taught.
            I have some reservations regarding home schooling, for what I’ve seen of the education level of the average adult it would be like the blind leading the blind or the incompetent handicapping the child even more. Most adults of today are functionally illiterate.

            Libertas inaestimabilis res est
            Semper-Fi

          • TML

            I can agree, regarding the level of quality in private schools… that’s what you pay for… and the vouchers seem like a nice way of enticing applicants, but the reality must be faced that not everyone could do this, and so, the eradication of ‘free’ public school systems (if that’s what you are arguing) doesn’t seem to serve the interests of the people in general. Even the most poor people should be able to send their children to school to learn to read, else they could never even read the Constitution. Free Market education, according to your proposal, should then be reached by its own merit, while public education is still available.

            I am, however, at odds with your comment; “Nothing Government does preserves Freedom. The concept is an oxymoron.”

            Are you saying the very basis of our government is an oxymoron?

            “that to secure these rights, governments are [ought to be] instituted amoung men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed” – Declaration of Independence

            Nay, I say the ‘proper’ amount of government secures freedom. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N4r0VUybeXY

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            Public Schools would eradicate themselves by under-perfoming in the Marketplace. If they competed smartly and survived then more power to them.

            TML says — “Even the most poor people should be able to send their children to school to learn to read, else they could never even read the Constitution”.
            What did I say that precludes that?

            TML says — “Are you saying the very basis of our government is an oxymoron?”.
            I am saying that Freedom is the lack of Force by Government on our Free Choices, so the idea that Government protects our Freedom is a contradiction of terms. The best that Government can do is to get out of our way.

          • TML

            Then I’d say we are in agreement… public schools will phase out on the evolutionary merit of private education, but not until then.

          • TML

            “I am saying that Freedom is the lack of Force by Government on our Free Choices”

            “Rightful liberty is unobstructed action according to our will within limits drawn around us by the equal rights of others. I do not add ‘within the limits of the law’ because law is often but the tyrant’s will, and always so when it violates the rights of the individual.” – Thomas Jefferson

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            And?
            Are you struggling to become a Libertarian, TML? Or do you not understand your own quote?

          • TML

            Obviously if laws protect the equal rights of others, it protects freedom, and thus not a contradiction in terms. The proper amount of government, protects freedom.

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            There is only a very small percentage of Government devoted to protecting people from the Force of others. And they don’t do that very well. The vast majority of Government is about Forcing their way on other people.

            Freedom, by definition in the political sense, means Freedom from Government busybodies.

          • Jeff

            Who are the government busy bodies?
            Policemen? Firemen? Teachers? EPA personnel?
            USDA personnel? The SEC? I’m sure there are many others. Please be specific. Your grade will be reduced for mere citation of a Mises article, but it will be improved by the absence of any personal insults.

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            Policemen? Ostensibly their jobs are indeed to Protect people from Force. But they don’t perform that function very well, oftentimes being more of a danger than of Protection.
            Firemen? None of the Government’s business.
            Teachers? None of the Government’s business.
            EPA? Pollution is indeed Force on other people, but instead of a political entity designed to favor Crony Capitalists as well as Bureaucrats, there should instead be rigid pollution laws under which perps would be tried in courts. And before you come up with any nonsense about the costs, it would be a whole lot cheaper than the current modus operandi of harassing everybody whether guilty of polluting or not.
            USDA? People who are fearful of being poisoned would be much better served by Private Agencies which would actually suffer loss if they fell down on the job, unlike Government agents who have nothing to lose when they screw up.
            SEC? Please. The last thing we need is ignorant and politically motivated Government bureaucrats telling us how to invest. If a company is fraudulent, that’s an issue for the courts. With all the money we’d save by getting rid of all the meddling bureaucrats, we’d be able to take a loss now and then and still be better off financially.
            That is a particular sore point with me, having lost a large amount of money with a company that posted a fraudulent balance sheet indicating solid value, and then literally disappeared. More than likely, their Government Cronies helped them in that disappearing act.

            Jeff says — “Your grade will be reduced for mere citation of a Mises article”.
            Teacher, eh? I thought so. No wonder the students are so screwed up. And it figures also that a Teacher would be afraid that people might actually do some independent study and learn things you don’t want them to know.
            I will quote Mises anytime that I think it can benefit those who would like to learn, Jeff. And nothing you can do will stop me from that.

          • Jeff

            You appear to want to leave everything to the Courts – except interpret the Constitution. Who would do that in Mises World?

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            The Legislative Powers were specifically given to an elected body of people — Congress. The Congress has shirked that duty and let unelected bodies of people (Bureaucrats) make their own rules. It’s time we put the Power of law-making back in the hands of Congress.
            http://mises.org/daily/6460/The-Tollkeepers-on-the-Road-to-Serfdom
            http://archive.mises.org/17368/ron-paul-mark-thornton-raw-milk/
            http://archive.mises.org/13273/the-ftc-will-make-you-safe/

          • Jeff

            First, legislating is very different from applying the Constitution and the Bill of Rights to specific situations. You want Congress to decide when a police officer needs to get a warrant, what constitutes probable cause, and how the 4th Amendment applies to cars, computers, and cell phones?

            Second, as the areas where Congress legislates get increasingly complex, it is natural to legislate the broad outlines but leave the specific rule-making to those who have to enforce Congress’ will. For example, Congress can legislate that banks, in order to be covered by the FDIC, have to cease engaging in proprietary trading or have to have sufficient deposits to cover loans. But it is not Congress that has expertise in the enforcement of those standards. That is why rule-making is delegated to agencies created by Congress.

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            1) Usually that would be the jurisdiction of the State. And yes, the State Legislature, or the Congress should make those decisions and codify them. I certainly don’t want Unelected officials deciding those things.
            2) Most of what Congress involves themselves with could be done better by the Private Sector. Prior to 1900, somehow people survived with only 1/8th the Government we have now.
            If politicians spent their time only legislating those things which Government is deemed necessary for, that extra “complexity” (most of which has been caused by Government itself) would be easily handled.
            I have noticed in life that the best solutions are almost always the simplest. Non-Productive people like to make things more complex than they need be because it gives the illusion that they are essential. Usually they are not.
            Your banking example is weak, Jeff, because Government actually aids the banks in their inherently fraudulent activities.
            You would know that if you took the time to read the various Murray Rothbard books that I’ve linked to. But then, Shills aren’t here to learn anything, are they?

          • Jeff

            Banks, if left to their own devices, will engage in risky behavior like derivatives trading and other risky bets. In the 20’s there were essentially no rules and the banks created the Great Depression. I’m sure Mr. Rothbard can make the case that somehow the Government caused the Depression, but I don’t buy it and neither do the vast majority of leading economists. FDR put regulations in place limiting the Banks’ behavior, creating a wall between banking and investing, guaranteeing that banks have sufficient deposits to cover loans, protecting the public thru the FDIC, etc., etc. The result? No banking crises for 55 years and that one, the S&L Crisis, occurred because S&Ls were not regulated as banks.

            You are entitled to your own opinion but not to your own facts.

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            I would be willing to bet you don’t even know what “derivatives” are. Let alone knowing the useful purpose they serve.
            The Banks make the rules, Jeff. You would know that if you read this:
            http://mises.org/Books/historyofmoney.pdf

            What ignorant people see as regulations to protect the common man are merely Crony Capitalists working with Politicians to stifle their competitors — Who are sometimes other Crony Capitalists, like in the case of Glass-Steagall.
            If Government was sticking up for the people instead of the Banks, why would they bail out the losers? The Bad Managers should have been purged, and the assets of their banks bought up by the Good Managers. That’s the way the Free Market would work. Instead the Bad Managers were propped up to manage badly another day.
            And please don’t bother fantasizing that it was for the customer victims. If it had been, the Government would have just restored their accounts with a well-run bank, and let the Bad Managers die a well-deserved economic death.

            Jeff says — “No banking crises for 55 years and that one, the S&L Crisis, occurred because S&Ls were not regulated as banks”.
            Jeff, you are hopelessly ignorant when it comes to banking. The FDIC could not even begin to save the banks in a crisis. The reason there are no major failures is that the Federal Reserve just bails them out with newly created money if need be (at the expense of people on fixed incomes and those with cash savings). Of course they decide whether those banks are worth saving or not. If the politics are not right, then the Federal Reserve might choose to let a particular bank go.
            http://mises.org/daily/6387/Anatomy-of-the-Bank-Run

          • Jeff

            Do you ever do anything but insult people? I know what derivatives are, but no one, not even you in your best capitalist dream, can unravel the complexity of some of these instruments. Even the banks and insurance companies didn’t always know what they were betting on. And you think the market needs no regulation?

            Keep believing the world is just like it was in “Mr. Smith Goes To Washington.” At least you acknowledged the lack of banking crises for 55 years following The New Deal, but of course it does not compute to the Mises Mind that regulation could result in anything positive. When all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail.

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            Jeff, your answer was typical of Liberal Progressive circular reasoning and conjecture.
            You have in no way demonstrated knowledge of what derivatives are.

          • Jeff

            It’s not a competition, and education is not a product. Public schools, unlike private schools and even public charter schools, have to accept everyone who shows up. That will include lots of kids with learning disabilities, uneducated parents, bad home environments, etc. Still, many public schools do just as good a job as so-called “charter” schools designed for somebody to make money. Inner city public schools have specific problems related to things outside the school that cannot be overcome by the best teachers in the world. Tackle poverty and the lack of economic opportunity and you’ll go a long way toward solving the problems in the public schools.

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            Education most certainly is a product. But perhaps that opinion is an insight into your Liberal Progressive Non-Productive way of thinking, Jeff.
            As far as accepting everyone, that could very well be the niche that public schools occupy. And just think, Jeff, they would have the ignorant kids who would be easier for you to Propagandize.

            Jeff says — “Still, many public schools do just as good a job as so-called “charter” schools designed for somebody to make money”.
            That is pure conjecture, Jeff. Any Liberal Progressive can spout conjecture. What makes you special?
            http://www.mackinac.org/1118

            Private Schools outscore Public Schools on SAT and ACT:
            http://www.daytondailynews.com/news/news/local-education/private-schools-top-public-in-average-act-sat-scor/nTtCq/
            And that’s in spite of the religious propaganda by many of the Private Schools.

          • Jeff

            You just can’t say anything without attacking your opponents personally, can you? My wife teaches at a private school that costs a lot of money. She used to teach at a school with lots of poor kids. Everyone knows the kids at the private school will outperform those at the public school and it has little to do with the quality of education. Comparing test scores tells you more about the parents’ income than about the quality of the teachers.

          • Jeff

            My problem with vouchers is less philosophic than practical. There may well be specific cities with lots of old Catholic schools that are relatively inexpensive where vouchers could work. But on a larger scale and in more suburban areas, I just don’t see it working. How much will the State give a parent for a kid’s education? $6,000? $8,000? That will pay the tuition at a Catholic school, presenting a real 1st Amendment issue, but it won’t come close to paying the tuition at the types of schools where the movers and shakers send their kids.

            My wife teaches at one of those schools and the tuition is around $20,000 per student. They award scholarships and have a number of disadvantaged students (even more disadvantaged than the kids of teachers), but the idea that hundreds of parents armed with vouchers for $6,000 are going to get their kids admitted – well, it’s a fantasy.

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            Jeff says — “That will pay the tuition at a Catholic school, presenting a real 1st Amendment issue, but it won’t come close to paying the tuition at the types of schools where the movers and shakers send their kids”.
            The people who want the same education as the “movers and shakers” can pay the extra out of their pockets, like they already do. Where do you Liberal Progressives come up with your irrelevant nonsense?
            And going to Catholic School has nothing to do with the First Amendment:
            “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press, or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances”.
            Do you get the part that says — “free exercise thereof”?
            If you want to talk Constitution, where does it say the Federal Government has any Power whatsoever to involve themselves in Educational Issues?

          • Jeff

            If the Government gives money to a Catholic school, it is hard to avoid problems with the establishment clause. I know you disagree; I’m talking about the last 75 years of jurisprudence.

            But assuming that problem can be solved, perhaps by the use of government money for secular purposes only, how do you overcome the problem of wealthier people outbidding those with less means. If a given city has 2 or 3 elite private schools for kids of the very wealthy and 2 professional parents willing to pay $20,000 plus every year, how will a voucher allow poor kids to go to school there. Even assuming someone making a modest $75,000 a year can afford to supplement the voucher with an additional $10-12-14,000, what’s to prevent the school from upping the ante to $25,000 to keep its base of doctors, attorneys, and the very rich from being invaded by the dreaded middle class?

            I’m not saying poor kids shouldn’t have access to a first rate education; I’m saying that as long as we live in this society, richer kids always will have more opportunities and giving kids a $6 or $8,000 voucher will not change that. Better to put those resources into improving the public schools. Only don’t judge those public schools by the lack of success of some of the toughest cases that they can’t avoid. If a school has to accept kids who live in a messed up neighborhood, many of the kids will be messed up before they reach the school. The responsibility for improving the neighborhood lies elsewhere.

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            Read the words, Jeff:
            “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof”.
            “Congress shall make no law”. Get it? The Federal Government has no Constitutional role in Education.
            “or prohibiting the free exercise thereof”. Get that? They can’t prohibit the Free Exercise of Religion. Telling private religious schools they couldn’t get the same money that other private schools were receiving would be in direct violation of that clause.
            And don’t give me that “75 years of jurisprudence” crap. Even if it were true, Supreme Court rulings do not trump the Constitution. And the Supreme Court was never given the Power to be the final arbiter of the Constitution, they just took that power illegally in Marbury vs. Madison.
            The Free Market would provide schools for all levels of education. Since Private Schools have proven to operate much more cheaply and effectively than Public Schools, a voucher for up to the amount spent per pupil by Public Schools would more than cover a decent education for anybody who wanted it.
            http://www.mackinac.org/1118
            As far as the rich being able to provide their kids with better than that — It is their money. As much as you’d like to share other people’s money against their will, Jeff, it is none of your business how they spend it. Your life would be much better lived if you took off your green-colored glasses and just moved on.

          • Jeff

            Let me know when Marbury v. Madison is overturned. Should be around the same time the law of gravity is repealed. Maybe in your ideal world the establishment clause wouldn’t prohibit government support of religious schools, but here in the United States it pretty much does.

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            It was an UnConstitutional decision by a branch of the Federal Government. It doesn’t need to be overturned. The people just need to get educated to the reality that members of the Federal Government will stick up for members of the Federal Government, and ignore them.

      • Jeff

        I beg to disagree. Every kid should have access to academic courses, regardless what you may think of his or her potential. I know in Japan and France they used to give kids a test at about 12. Kids who didn’t do well were shunted toward vocational courses. I cannot be certain but I hope such treatment is an artifact of a bygone era. I think taking chemistry and calculus and physics and philosophy have inherent value even if one never uses those subjects after graduation.

        I have little need for algebra these days but I’m glad I learned it well, if for no other reason than to be able to intelligently discuss math problems with my son who may well grow up to be an engineer. There was a time I found trigonometry fun. Now, I couldn’t do a trig problem with JeffH’s gun pointed at me, but I have the memory that it was a subject I was once able to handle. I would hate to think someone armed with a middle school math achievement test score can determine who may, and who may not, study calculus.

        • TheOriginalDaveH

          They would have more access to academic courses, Jeff, if you Liberal Progressives weren’t taking up so much of their time with your useless Propaganda.
          And where did you get that I thought other people should be the judge of their potential. You’re projecting, Jeff. Unlike you, I wouldn’t dream of making other people’s choices.

  • Nadzieja Batki

    The real function of Common Core may not be the education of children because that was never the educational establishment’s purpose. The Common Core proponents see all the new jobs that will come out of this and new powers, remedial classes requiring teachers, psychobabblers to correct new mind illnesses by the children, new buildings, new gimmicks, children taken out the home earlier and earlier and the blessings that will come from O.
    The educational establishment made the grandparents stupid which in turn made the parents stupid which in turn made the children stupid.

  • Brother Derek

    I just hope that home-schooling and parochial schools don’t have to follow this outrageous policy, they’ll be our only sources of truly educated adults in ten years.

  • Debbie Biersdorfer

    Public School will never be any better. Children that want to learn can’t because there are so many children in school today that are just trying to make it to 16. When school become a entitlement it started to go down hill. Watch the Charter Schools and Private Schools the kids do better because their parents either have to pay or you have to really work hard to get in. It’s just like everything else in this country. Work for it and it means something, become an entitlement and no one cares.

    • TheOriginalDaveH

      Wise words, Debbie.

    • Vis Fac

      The greatest danger for most of us is not that our aim is
      too high and we miss it, but that it is too low and we reach it. Michelangelo

      Libertas inaestimabilis res est
      Semper-Fi

  • MadMamaBear

    Defund Fed Ed.

  • WTS/JAY

    ROBERT SCOTT: STATES TOLD TO SIGN ON BEFORE COMMON CORE STANDARDS WERE WRITTEN…

    Former-Texas Commissioner of Education Robert Scott spoke for less than 14 power-packed minutes in front of the Georgia General Assembly Joint Meeting of the House and Senate Education Committee on Feb. 9, 2013.

    In Robert Scott’s fast-paced but gripping remarks, he shared a bit of his personal life and then explained what thought processes he went through when the U. S. Department of Education tried to pressure Texas into committing to the Common Core Standards BEFORE THEY WERE EVER WRITTEN.

    As you listen to Robert Scott’s testimony, you will learn how secretive the development of the Common Core Standards was, how little money the states actually received (e.g., Race to the Top), and how much state-and-local control they will be forced to turn over to the federal government if they go forward with the implementation of CCS.

    It is not too late for states to roll back on their commitment to CCCS, and some of the states are beginning to do just that as the public is learning more about the scary ramifications of turning their children over to the federal government.

    QUOTE FROM ROBERT SCOTT:

    My experience with the Common Core started when I was asked to sign on to them before they were written. I was told I needed to sign a letter agreeing to the Common Core, and I asked if I might read them first, which is, I think, appropriate. I was told they hadn’t been written, but they still wanted my signature on the letter. And I said, ‘That’s absurd; first of all, I don’t have the legal authority to do that because our [Texas] law requires our elected state board of education to adopt curriculum standards to be done with the direct input of Texas teachers, parents, and business. So adopting something that was written behind closed doors in another state would not meet my state law.

    video here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WcpMIUWbgxY

    • Tub O’ Lard

      Unreal!!!!

      • Vis Fac

        UNREAL? Try the railroading of Nancy Piglosi when she told congress we must first pass ODUMBOCARE so we can find out what’s in it. NOW THAT”S ABSURD!!!
        We all know where we are with that train wreck.
        Libertas inaestimabilis res est
        Semper-Fi

        • Alex

          Farce Recon–what a silly and hypocritical sailor you are:
          “Liberals Progressives Communists always use pejorative”…

          Did you snort to much Agent Orange while you were killing babies, sailor?

          • Ron the Marine

            Why don,t you STFU alex? BEFORE THE MARINE GREEN MACHINE ROLLS OVER YOUR DUMB ASS!

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            At least he had the honor to serve, how about you? BTW, here is a funny cartoon about Obama bin Laden.
            http://www.comicallyincorrect.com/2013/09/26/obama-children/
            Killing babies? Are you related to or have had relations with Jane Fonda the traitor?
            FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
            You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot. This leaves you out.
            “So help me God!”
            George Washington

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            At least he had the honor to serve, how about you? BTW, here is a funny cartoon about Obama bin Laden.
            http://www.comicallyincorrect.com/2013/09/26/obama-children/
            Killing babies? Are you related to or have had relations with Jane Fonda the traitor?
            FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
            You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot. This leaves you out.
            “So help me God!”
            George Washington

          • Jeff

            Speaking of traitors, why do you never include Benedict Arnold in your retelling of American history? I hear he was a Christian like you – well, not a Southern Baptist or anything but a Congregationalist.

            And technically Jane Fonda is not a traitor, not that truth matters to a dedicated right wing loon like you. Treason is specifically defined in the Constitution – you know the document that contains the 2nd Amendment you’ve been improperly interpreting all your life. The Constitution defines treason as a person waging war against the U.S. or giving aid and comfort to the enemy. Since Viet Nam was essentially an illegal, undeclared, and grossly immoral war, someone merely posing with the Viet Cong might rightly be called naive, silly, or in opposition to Faque Samurai. Maybe it should be her fate to star in some awful Japanese movie with you and Jon Belushi, but traitor? I think not. Perhaps we should reserve those imprecise terms for the true villains of Viet Nam – LBJ, McNamara, Nixon, Kissinger, Westmoreland, Calley, et. al.

          • Spook

            Jeff,
            You are a fine example of an idiocrat ! Jane aided and abetted an enemy. LBJ, a democrat, was the main culprit in fueling the War for profit. The idiocrats started calling it Nixon’s war, an undeserving label, since Nixon was instrumental in getting us the hell out of there, due to idiocratic pressure. And, Benedict Arnold’s story was in my School history books. It was the Idiocrats that changed History, much like in Orwell’s 1984.
            Get Bent,
            Spook

          • Jeff

            It didn’t start as Nixon’s War, but he certainly made it his. Nixon and Kissinger knew early on the war was unwinnable and in 1968 LBJ might have been able to negotiate the same peace agreement Nixon did 4 years later. Nixon interfered with the peace talks (treason in itself), then widened the war, not only involving Laos and Cambodia but ultimately producing more American deaths than LBJ. Nixon and Kissinger delayed any peace deal as long as possible because Nixon didn’t want to be in office when it fell apart. It was perhaps the most cynical act by any president in American history.

          • Spook

            I dare you to badmouth Nixon to a Hanoi Hilton survivor. I’m a two tour Viet Nam Vet, I have a doctorate degree , so I am not stupid. Obama has done far more than Nixon ever did to ruin our Country. He has far worse things than Watergate, yet you probably love him because he is a Democrat. Look at what’s going on in this country. See how Veterans feel about Nixon. When you do anything to approach their level of service maybe you will be worth reading.

            http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=LemllfcAY8A&sns=em

            Semper Fi all you jarheads !

          • Jeff

            As a Ph.D., you should know that the mere fact someone might get angry hearing something does not change the historical facts.

          • Spook

            Nobody will get angry. These guys do not get angry. They have been through all that. Historical facts huh? You have a lot to learn. LOL ! A Lot to learn.
            Nuff said. Go talk to a mirror. C’est La Vie !

          • S.C.Murf

            alex you are as stupid as the night is dark. You are the problem.

            up the hill
            airborne (of which alex knows nothing about)

          • Vis Fac

            Well Alex in La La Land: since you put it that way it is obvious you have no idea what the difference between the five branches of our armed forces. We all know you would never be considered for entry into any because you most likely you wouldn’t pass the literacy test for entry.
            Assailing me with pejorative labeling does nothing to give credibility to your position or argument; however in your doing so gives a wealth of credence to mine.

            Libertas inaestimabilis res est
            Semper-Fi

  • Truthful

    Can we say homeschool??? I homeschooled my now adult children long before there was any talk of common core. I taught them to think for themselves and to be self reliant.

    • Vis Fac

      I have as well and am aiding in all our grand children’s education as well. Our four remaining children are all professionals (due to ODUMBOCARE one is considering a career change) Our youngest granddaughter can read primers and can count to 100 well ahead of the kindergarten curve Our five year old granddaughter reads at the second grade level and her math skills are approaching the third. Both are enrolled in gymnastics and have a healthy social life so they have exposure to the outside world and can cope well in society.

      Libertas inaestimabilis res est
      Semper-Fi

  • paendragon

    A great (although depressing) article, THANKS!

  • Puffy McBurger

    This (see below) is one of the most egregious things I have ever seen come out of the Lib agenda, perfectly in tune with Common Core Homo crap-o-la!
    [questionable link removed]

    • Guest

      Your link does not work. Can you check please?

  • Carlos

    Common Core is nothing more than planned liberal education, the more dumb they keep the populace the easier for them to get elected, how do you think Barry got the White House, how do you think he got reelected, it wasn’t by intelligent people.

    • $36364326

      I am amazed at some of the 30-40s ish how empty their conversations are I can’t imagine what it would be like even just after 2 years of this intelligence murdering system. Klinton’s educate amerika was bad, but this is like complete brain washed and ready to hang to dry. Why are so many people trusting what they hear on the TV and the lying hypocrite politicians who 99% of the time let them down. Ever watched the movie “they live”? Great depiction of liberals and conservatives.

      • Carlos

        No, I haven’t seen the movie “They Live” however, I did read part of the movie preview on the internet. It sounds like something that’s going on today..

  • Emerson Hopfmann

    Communism by any other name is still communism.

  • dgdenton

    As a retired teacher the only test I found to be of value was what we called criterion based tests. We gave them at the beginning of the school year to find out how much the children had lost over the summer and then made sure we worked with those children when we reviewed, retaught and added new concepts. We made up these tests ourselves based on the curriculum. Standardized tests were of value to tell us how effective our curriculum was. For example, if the standardized tests had questions about vocabulary and the class as a whole did not do well in that area, we looked at how we were teaching vocabulary and modified the curriculum. We tested the children throughout the year to measure their progress with tests we made. Discipline was not a problem and we could teach many more children per teacher than they can now. And, the children learned the information as well as how to think for themselves. We expected civility toward everyone in the class room including the teacher. Our relationship with parents was cooperative, not adversarial as it is today. Homeschooling is my hope for our children’s future. We must refuse Federal funds to put the education of the children back in the hands of the parents and teachers.

    • wavesofgrain

      Well said, dgdenton!

  • http://batman-news.com samurai

    Ah, yes. It is a great day today, as the smell of roasting libturds and progturds drifts through the air. I love the smell of burning libturds and progturds in the morning. It gets the blood flowing. Here is an article about the 13 things of America that would make our Christian founding fathers roll over in their graves. Of course, they were all made possible by libturds and progturds.
    http://www.townhall.com/columnists/johnhawkins/2013/09/28/13-things-about-america-that-would-make-the-founding-fathers-turn-over-in-their-graves-n1711949/page/full
    If they were to meet Obama bin Laden, they would probably dog pile him into submission. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
    You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot. This leaves Obama bin Laden out.
    “I have not yet begun to fight!”
    John Paul Jones

    • Jeff

      How long would you be permitted to “teach” if anyone at your school got wind of your idiotic, insane posts?

  • laura merrone

    My kids had a public education “back in the day” when a public education was okay…twenty-five years ago. Now, its so “dumbed down” I don’t think I would have done it again. Anyway, both my sons are very reliant, creative and responsible adults. My two older grandchildren are being homeschooled and doing great. The two younger ones aren’t going to school yet although one is in a preschool program for 3 year olds. I recommend now homeschooling if you want responsible adults. Of course, you and your children will be in the minority so you will need to adjust to that fact as they get older… The majority will be the public school educated folks.

  • Old Wolf

    There was a reason federal control was not to be in education, and by and large, it was to prevent the federal government from gaining control of the youth through that ‘education’ and indoctrination. It’s sad, and fifty years would have been unthinkable how many of them are mere zombies, giving up rights in the pursuit of ‘security’ which they will never receive… because the more they give up, the more the government can manipulate to keep them lost, scared, and helpless.

    • $36364326

      There was and IS a reason the federal government is not suppose to be involved with ANY social institutions including SS. We have history to show what happens when the certain form of political process in power takes control of ANY institutions, especially those of economic value, it is a short step into full dictatorship, that is why every democracy has and will turn into dictatorships. For example look at all the terrorists in africa, many backed by the gun running CIA and the US politicians who own stock in them. The CIA is spreading “democracy” and virtually ALL of them are dictatorships. Once the power is shifted to the people with majority rules, any majority can be bought. Been happening forever, but the worst part is the religious part at the end of all civilizations, when the church overtakes the state! Then it gets really nasty, a real protestant knows what I mean. With a jesuit pope, hang on to your bible because that will be all there is.

      • Old Wolf

        it has always been the effort of majorities to attempt to limit personhood only to those who agree with them, and to limit rights in scope to only those whom they feel will benefit them.
        THat’s why we were to be a representative republic, with enumerated powers, and protection for the minority against the majority. We were to be a nation of general laws, not targeted laws (aka attainder).
        The federalist 57 claimed that Congress could pass no law which ‘did not equally affect itself, its friends, and the whole of society’
        Now they pass laws with exemptions, loopholes, and specific classes targeted for detriment or benefit.
        We were to be a nation under the rule of law.. but targeted law eliminates that by making the law not apply to everyone equally.

  • 4lifeandfreedom

    Letter to the editor in today’s Bangor, ME Daily News(10/5/13) by teachers is promoting the wonderful Common Core curriculum!

  • http://www.thefreedomtrainusa.com/ FreedomTrainUSA

    We no longer has a Public Education system in this Country….Today we have a PUBLIC INDOCTRINATION SYSTEM…To produce the next generation of MARXIST SOCIALIST ROBOTS….Who can’t write or speak a COHERENT SENTENCE….Can’t do Basic Math…And have ABSOLUTELY NO CRITICAL THINKING SKILLLS….I was a teacher for 15 years starting in 1967…and my wife taught for 31 years starting in 1968….We both saw the education system change from Education to COMPLETE INDOCTRINATION….As the Teachers Unions gained more power and control…which was aided in the Late 70’s by the Jimmy The Peanut Farmer Carter’s…FEDERAL DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC INDOCTRINATION….Which gave the NEA more power yet…and did absolutely nothing for REAL EEDUCATION….
    To begin the process of taking this back and changing these indoctrination Centers back to schools that teach Critical Thinking Skills…. The FIRST thing that we need to do is to ABOLISH THE FEDERAL DEPARTMENT OF INDOCTRINATION and return control back to the states and Local School Districts as was intended….The SECOND thing that needs to happen is to reign in the Power that the Teachers Unions have…Starting with the NEA and on down to the State Level and on down to the Local Teachers Unions….The state of WI where we grew up and lived most of our lives until we moved 6 years ago…have taken steps to curb the Public Employee Unions and thus have taken away some or the Stranglehold that they have had…Most of these Unions has lost Membership and some of these Teachers Unions have not DECERTIFIED…

  • grumpyolman

    Has anyone noticed the following happening in our schools and our country?

    13. Do away with all loyalty oaths. (Such as the Pledge of Allegiance in schools)
    16. Use technical decisions of the courts to weaken basic American institutions by claiming their activities violate civil rights.
    17. Get control of the schools. Use them as transmission belts for socialism and current Communist propaganda. Soften the curriculum. Get control of teachers’ associations. Put the party line in textbooks.
    19. Use student riots to foment public protests against programs
    or organizations which are under Communist attack.
    20. Infiltrate the press and control the news. Get control of book-review assignments, editorial writing, policymaking positions.
    21. Gain control of key positions in radio, TV, and motion pictures.
    24. Eliminate all laws governing obscenity by calling them “censorship” and a violation of free speech and free press.
    25. Break down cultural standards of morality by promoting pornography and obscenity in books, magazines, motion pictures, radio, and TV.
    26. Present homosexuality, degeneracy and promiscuity as “normal, natural, healthy.”
    28. Eliminate prayer or any phase of religious expression in the schools on the ground that it violates the principle of “separation of church and state.”
    29. Discredit the American Constitution by calling it inadequate, old-fashioned, out of step with modern needs, a hindrance to cooperation between nations on a worldwide basis.
    30. Discredit the American Founding Fathers. Present them as selfish aristocrats who had no concern for the “common man.”
    These are part of the stated Communist Goals to take over America, as entered into The Congressional Record, January 10, 1963. It is scary to see how many have already happened or came true.