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Tea Parties vs. Socialist Redistributionists

April 12, 2010 by  

Tea Parties vs. Socialist Redistributionists

Although President Obama, Speaker Pelosi, Majority Leader Reid and their elite socialistic foot soldiers cast it in pleasant, humanitarian terms as a means of providing healthcare to those who couldn’t otherwise afford it, the majority of Americans recognized Obamacare for what it was: a transfer of wealth to Big Pharma, trial lawyers, unions and other special interests and a power grab over society’s producers.

Hence, the growth of the Tea Party movement across the United States.

The Tea Party took root early in 2009 in response to the massive government spending policies and takeover of two-thirds of the American automobile industry and all of the financial industry by the redistributionists—carrying both the Democrat and Republican labels—seeking to turn America into Karl Marx’s dream state. The Tea Party grew stronger and louder as Obama—the Liar-in-Chief—denied his socialistic tendencies and looked down on them with an arrogant disdain and dismissiveness.

Tea Partiers found their voices as 2009 turned into 2010 and the power grab reached its zenith when Obama’s dream came true and the House and Senate overrode the will of the majority of Americans and passed into law Obamacare on March 21. They turned out by the thousands in Washington, D.C., that day and the day before—traveling there from all over the country on a couple of days notice—to protest, and those who couldn’t go flooded the Capitol switchboard with calls and the Capitol email servers with correspondence.

The arrogant elitists who occupy Washington, D.C., laughed in the faces of the Tea Partiers once the passage of Obamacare was assured. Pelosi grabbed her gavel and, along with a group of her lackeys, marched boldly through the crowd of Tea Party protesters on the day the voting began, hoping above hope to incite some incident that would allow them to paint the protesters as radicals and racists.

When no one took the bait the arrogant elitists made up an incident, with one congressman saying he was slurred by a racial epithet from Tea Partiers and another claiming he was spat upon. Despite those claims no arrests were made, no video or audio evidence of any slurs have turned up and the congressman who claims spittle flew his way was unable to make any kind of identification of a culprit. And Andrew Breitbart’s $100,000 reward to the United Negro College Fund for evidence of a slur remains unclaimed.

Capitol police escorting the group of elected elitists through the crowd of Tea Party peasants saw no evidence of anything untoward and sensed no danger for those they were charged with protecting.

That’s because Tea Partiers aren’t violent sociopaths as the Left and liberal media would have you believe. They are ordinary, everyday Main Street Americans—49 percent Republican and 51 percent either independent or Democrat; 70 percent conservative, but 22 percent moderate; 55 percent male; and 45 percent with annual income below $50,000, 55 percent above $50,000. In age, education, employment status and race the Tea Party supporters break down statistically almost exactly like the general population, according to Gallup polls.

They’re people who would rather be at home or at work than having to stand outside their capitol building holding signs and demonstrating. They are people who, three or four years ago, would not have dreamed they would have to stand up to a government that is spending away the future of their children and grandchildren and making an unconstitutional power grab.

And make no mistake: That’s what the elected elitists are doing. That group of Ivy League educated lawyers and political scientists that walk the halls of Congress—and one who now resides in the White House and refuses to travel sans teleprompter—has been attempting to pull a bait and switch on the American people, telling them Obamacare had nothing to do with socialism or redistribution of wealth or power over the people but only in helping the less fortunate.

Some fell for it. But, despite Obama’s eloquent teleprompter and long windedness, most haven’t. Indeed, 52 percent still oppose Obamacare four weeks after its passage. But now that it has passed the elites are no longer hiding their true intent: socialist redistribution.

In their own words:

  • “It’s a simple proposition to us: Everyone is entitled to adequate medical health care. If you call that a ‘redistribution of income’—well, so be it. I don’t call it that. I call it just being fair—giving the middle class taxpayers an even break that the wealthy have been getting.”—Vice President Joe Biden
  • “(Health reform is) an income shift. It is a shift, a leveling, to help lower-income, middle-income Americans. … [T]he maldistribution of income in America has gone up way too much, the wealthy are getting way, way too wealthy, and the middle income class is left behind. (The new health care legislation) will have the effect of addressing that maldistribution of income in America.”—Sen. Max Baucus (D-Mont.)
  • “I don’t worry about the Constitution on this. … What I care more about, I care more about the people dying every day that don’t have health care.”—Rep. Phil Hare (D-Ill.)
  • “Let me remind you this (Americans allegedly dying because of lack of universal healthcare) has been going on for years. We are bringing it to a halt. The harsh fact of the matter is when you’re going to pass legislation that will cover 300 (million) American people in different ways it takes a long time to do the necessary administrative steps that have to be taken to put the legislation together to control the people.”—Rep. John Dingell (D-Mich.)

To their credit, Republicans in Congress opposed Obamacare. It seems the GOP plans to run on a platform of “Repeal the Bill” as we head into the midterm elections this fall. However, Sen. Bob Corker (R-Tenn.), in typical Republican style of surrendering before the battle has been enjoined, has already lost his backbone and is saying repeal is not going to happen. The surrender came three weeks after he said Republicans would and should run on a platform of repeal.

Senate candidate Mark Kirk of Illinois has also backed off his repeal the bill stance. Rep. Mike Castle, (R-Del.) is running for the state’s open Senate seat and he is also avoiding a pledge to repeal. Expect other Republicans to follow.

As I pointed out last week in Don’t Pin Your Hopes On The Party Of Lincoln, the GOP can’t be trusted to fight for smaller government. Big government is in their genes. Thankfully, Kirk and Castle have opposition.

Remember in 1994, after a bruising fight with President Bill Clinton over universal healthcare, Republicans ran on their Contract with America which would have, in their minds, streamlined government, required a balanced budget, created jobs, set term limits and produced other reforms. Some elements did not pass in Congress and others were vetoed by Clinton and the Republicans moved on to other things, like growing government under George W. Bush.

So if you want to take back your government—take back your country—from the Obama regime and his Marxists redistributionists, don’t think you’re going to do that by selecting just any Republican candidate. He or she may be a Bob Corker, Mike Castle or Mark Kirk—maybe a socialist, maybe a progressive or maybe just a spineless, deceitful politician—with no intention of shrinking government.

The Tea Parties will give you some idea of the worth of a candidate. But it’s up to each individual voter to check out a candidate’s record if he has one, or his words and deeds if he doesn’t, before the vote and to hold his feet to the fire after the election.

That’s the only way you’re going to be able to take your country back. The elitist redistributionists are feeling invincible, and their special interests promise generous campaign contributions when the campaign begins.

It’s your job as a voter—as a citizen—to show that your vote is more important than cash from corporatists, trial lawyers, unions and their other johns.

Bob Livingston

is an ultra-conservative American who has been writing a newsletter since 1969. Bob has devoted much of his life to research and the quest for truth on a variety of subjects. Bob specializes in health issues such as nutritional supplements and alternatives to drugs, as well as issues of privacy (both personal and financial), asset protection and the preservation of freedom.

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  • angel-wanna-be

    Great Article!__And exactly what we need to be concerned about and guard against. We need to be alert and keep up the momentum! Although we need change IN 2010, we as Conservatives can’t jump the gun and vote just “anyone” in office in a desperate attempt to take our country back and to weed out the socialists.__ WE NEED TO MAKE A WELL INFORMED VOTE, not be swooned by smooth talking politicians, who promise the world and then lie through their teeth once in office. More and more of our rights are regulated or down right taken. We’re sick of Washington bureaucrats, TELLING US what is good for US, like we’re a bunch of stupid school kids!!__We are sick of career politcians whos only concern is advancing their own careers, power grabs, pay off votes and getting laid BY SOMEONE OTHER THAN YOUR WIVES!!__SOUNDS MORE LIKE YOU SHOULD BE IN THE TABLOIDS THAN IN WASHINGTON!__POLITICIANS, LISTEN UP!___ADVANCE YOUR CAREERS ON YOUR OWN TIME, NOT OFF THE BACKS OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE. YOU IGNORE WHAT WE SAY, DO AS YOU DAMN WELL PLEASE, AND THEN HAVE THE NERVE TO GO BACK TO YOUR DISTRICTS AND CLAIM YOU REPRESENT US!___HAVE SOME KAHUNAS AND WALK AWAY FROM THE CORRUPTION!

    • http://donthaveone Beberoni

      You hit the nail on the head, when you said “We need to make a well informed vote”. That is exactly what didnt happen in 2008. Too many uninformed people, sat around in their houses, and listed to the brain sucker in their living rooms, with some guy that spent millions upon millions of dollars, to appear on it saying change-change-change, Bush-Bush-Bush. He never revealed any plans he had. He never showed a direction he was heading in. It was never revealed as to who he was, what he was, what he stood for, where he was from, or any of this. And of course the liberal media didnt bother to investigate and even make a trickle attempt to find any answers. He was given a free pass. And millions of un-informed people voted for him. Not one person that voted for this guy could call themselves informed on him, because it is a fact, none of the things I mentioned were revealed about him, and many still are hidden. No one truly knows who this guy is, except that he doesnt care what the constitution says, he doesnt care what the majority of the American people want, and he could care less about uniting us all, which is a total lie from the one thing he did say, that he would unite people. This leper has cause the biggest division in this country that I have seen in my lifetime, and Im 51 years old. Let us all please make an informed decision at the polls this year, and not just vote against someone and elect someone you know nothing about. No, get educated and informed about whom you are voting for, so that this doesnt happen again. Im not sure this country could take 4 more years of this abuse of power.

      • William Nealey

        yep. you hit it on the head a bunch of uninformed IDIOTS for the most part who spent their time watching soaps instead of FOX news where they could hear the truth.I have quit buying newspapers because they are so biased toward the democrats and obummer the cheif LIAR.

        • denniso

          From one of the ‘elitist socialist foot soldiers’….I still wonder why the vaunted tea party formed only after Obama was elected,though the Repubs Cheny/Bush actually began the bailouts and tried to bail the car co’s to save hundreds of thousands of jobs…it was months before Obama came in and we heard nothing from the ‘tea party’ until then.Why? I would guess it was because the loudmouth ‘tea partiers’ couldn’t bring themselves to rock the boat w/ their Repubs still in power…blind loyalty of course,because these people don’t want to really think,they want to follow their own elitist leaders. Was it also because we had finally broken the color barrier at the highest level after 400 yrs of denying an entire group
          of Americans their full human rights? Maybe…

          • angel-wanna-be

            Denniso, RIGHT , RIGHT!__Here we go again with the racial implications! Whewnever you Libs can’t find an intellectual come back you resort to race___Race was over in the 60′s, this ain’t about race buster__it’s about policy and being a puppet for Soro’s_ GET OVER IT!__and hey while your at do some reading!___Your democratic party has been hi-jacked!__
            Conservatives/Repubs politicians aren’t perfect either my friend, we vote those closest to our own set of values and beliefs , sometimes we get screwed as voters as well!___The difference with a repub, you USUSALLY, I SAY USUALLY, don’t have to worry about our Constitutional Rights being ignored, they usually believe in God as we do, and don’t taunt and threaten us with the ACLU and try to wipe everything off the face of the earth that has to do with God and then change the truth about our founding fathers beliefs!!__

          • denniso

            Can’t you answer the simple question? Wht didn’ the ‘tea party’ pop out when Bush was doing exactly what Obama did? Bailing out the fatcats…Why did they wait until we had the first ever black prez?

          • marypat

            Tea Party has been brewing the Teapot for a while. The Tea is now being served as the business as usual continues. It’s develo[pment has nothing to do with skin color,but actions or lack thereof.

          • Pat R

            Denniso:

            Why don’t you read this article?
            Kenyan official: Obama born here

            A Kenyan lawmaker told the nation’s parliament last month that Barack Obama was born in Africa and is therefore “not even a native American.”

            Find out the latest right now at WND.com.

            This has a lot to do with why the TEA PARTY grew so fast!
            Obama is nothing but a “BIG FRAUD” and more info about him is being revealed every day to prove it!

          • JeffH

            This may very well be one of the best articles Bob Livingston has written, despite so many other wonderful and informative scribes. Bob, you have been listening to the comments on this site as well as the country. THANK YOU!
            dennisso? Will you never stop with your racism? No, because you are a racist! Your comments are made based on your own prejudices and stereotypes related to race. As Bob wrote and described the socialist “foot soldiers”, you and your Alinsky minded cronies on this site stand out together as a negative force against the very freedoms you you not so deceptively claim to believe. This socialism must be defeated, at any cost.
            It is up to the people, the fighters of freedom, to make the most serious of decisions at the polls in modern history and take this country back. There are still good people out there that are leaders, we just need to remove the vermin and the fakes.
            GOD BLESS AMERICA AND GOD BLESS AMERICANS

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mjnm-9XQ8Og pete

            Dear Pat R,

            And Iraq had WMD too. They just moved them all to Iran, (their most hated Enemy) before the Americans arrived.

          • http://AContinentalVoice Nick Borns

            denniso,
            The TEA Party movement has been a long time building. Like any phenomena, natural or political, it requires reaching a critical mass for action to occur. President Obama and the current Congress just happen to be the ones who laid the “last straw” on the camels’ back. Now the back is broken and the camel is screaming. Historically, the original TEA Party in Boston was in response to more and more taxes put on the Colonies by Parliment and the Crown. The Boston event was followed by similar events (sans Indian disguises) in Chestertown, MD, Annapolis, MD, and Charleston, SC. There were a few more, but I don’t remember where. These were followed not by formation of a political party, but rather Committees of Correspondence throughout the Colonies. These Committees corresponded with others and discussed what was going on and what actions to take. It seems to me that the TEA Party movement is starting to reach the Committee of Correspondence stage with the formation of a National component. I agree with others who do not want this movement to become another political party. To do so will subject it to the same temptations of corruption that have befallen all political parties. It would kill the movement and return us to the “which party wins the power at the expense of the ordinary citizen” status that we have had for the last century and a half. The TEA Party movement can be most effective by challenging any candidate for any office to make a committment to the People to the extent that they will voluntarily resign their office should they violate their promises. The forces bringing about the TEA Party movement have been brewing for over 100 years, with the momentum increasing more rapidly in the last 50. Read the first paragraph of the Declaration of Independence. It states that a people will suffer long injustice, rather than change their government. But it also says that at some point, enough is enough.

          • Claire

            Although people on this site may not be racist I believe there is still racism in the United States. I have heard people in everyday life make racist comments.

          • AnhydrousBob

            Denniso,

            I did – I wrote letters to all my representatives, and called them all when Bush started bailing out the banks with the Tarp. I was already unhappy with him and knew all this was ridiculous.

            And so there, in answer to your question. That is what got me started – then your savior opened the floodgates and that got me even more involved.

          • Antiborg

            Senator Byrd (democrat) was and probably still is a member of the kkk. 4 democrats Including al gore senior filibustered to stop the civil rights amendment from passing. Democrats took woman as POLITICAL PRISONERS for having the gull to demand the right to vote. In fact if u ask most democrats today to sign a petition to repeal wpmans sufferage they’ll sign it. It was ur socialist hero f.d.r. Who took so many japenese American prisoners during WWII but left people from other axis powers alone!! It was because of repubs that woman and African Americans have the rights and freedoms they currently enjoy. It is inspite of fierce democrat opposition. So while u r goin around accusing us of being racist maybe u should have a look in the mirror. Or learn a little about well documented American history. Then u can come back here and maybe share with us why it’s ok for dems to call African Americans “Negros” and u don’t blink. Maybe u can explain why when a black man (Clearence Thomas) was accused of sexual harassment it was a big deal, but when a white man (bill clinton) was it’s a waste of public funds. If u guys r so tolerant why all the bigotry toward Christians, why all the bigotry toward southerners, why all the bigotry toward gays when they’re not around, why all the bigotry toward foreigners when their not around? R u really so stupid to think we haven’t noticed these things. Do u think we have no memory? Do u think we don’t know our history. Ur in the wrong place. Ur kind of rediric flys really well with uninformed lemmings. 90% of the peeps here see right thru it. Go find urself a blog full of mindless losers and Borg wannabes. They will c ur “point” as being brilliant. All ur doing here is proving what o characature of urself u really r.

          • http://aol Don

            denniso – you are correct that Bob is the biggest elitist. The tea baggers started off ok, reciting Ron Paul, but now has been hijacked by Palin. Now the sheep are following with no substance.

          • gary

            I have watched the civil rights, and human rights movement since the 50′s and it has mostly destroyed America. It has put the brakes on progress, because we need to be careful of what we say or do, or we might upset the(word removed). The liberals and lawyers have real control.

            (Offensive sentence removed)

          • JeffH

            gary. it’s difficult to determine what kind of idiot would make that kind of comment. But let’s make no mistake about it, you are an idiot!

          • Me Too

            I think everyone is a little racist. Who doesn’t enjoy a little racist joke or have some Suspicions about someone that is different from us. No matter who you are. The thing is how do you act on it. Do you hate so much that you hate everyone that is diffent or do you give people a chance?

          • http://yahoo.com AmericanPatrot

            SEIU ALERT…SEIU ALERT!…:)

          • JeffH

            AmericanPatrot … you very well could be right.

          • Fed Up Gal in NM

            AngelWB,

            Well said!!!

            Fed Up Gal

          • Fed Up Gal in NM

            Denniso,

            What difference does it make when the Tea Party (itself) began? I know you relish the idea of instigating another racial divide, but I hope you realize citizen support for tax reform has been growing for some time now (example: Fairtax.org was founded in 1995).

            Fed Up Gal

          • Fed Up Gal in NM

            Claire,

            Reference your 12 Apr (4:33pm) post:

            I believe you’re right about racisim in America; however unlike some, I believe there is continued improvement. There is no predudice in racism that does exist and it occurs in just about all ethnic groups and populations; those who say it doesn’t…. are simply ignorant (at best), or lying (at worst).

            I also believe many use race as a way to garner support for their policies (political or otherwise) and some use it as a way to stoke a small smoldering fire into a massive inferno.

            Fed Up Gal

          • JC

            It’s not about race denniso, it’s about fraud. Obama is a fraud. And even if he wasn’t, does it make good sense to let a President do stupid unAmerican things based on an excuse? That excuse being you’re distaste for Bush? (Which by the way I can appreciate to a point)

          • Randinator

            Denniso,

            Since you played the race card, I am highly offended that Obama denys his white half. He is simply an opportunist who takes advantage of being half black for votes. He cannot stand on his record because his whole life is a lie – from his birthplace to being a professor to the wealth of broken campain promises. Remember, “when the man is not credible his whole message is suspect”.

            I would have gladly voted for Colin Powell. HE is an honorable man. He is 100% black and believes in things Obama doesn’t know about, like honor, code, God and country.

            Enjoy your freedoms for now. Obama is about to make us all slaves. Now there’s irony, a white president set the black people free and a black president is making slaves of us all.

          • Fed Up Gal in NM

            Randinator,

            Very well said. Thank you!

      • angel-wanna-be

        Beberoni, GOOD POST!__I think repubs got lazy, I thank Christ everyday, the old man and I did inform ourselves about Obama, and a vote for him isn’t hanging over our heads_ but not enough of us were informed, or the sucker wouldn’t be in office. Come 2010 and 2012, with the wealth of info, via internet, articles & books, there is no way for ANYONE TO CLAIM THEY ARE NOT INFORMED!__If they’re not it’s their own fault for not doing the work. Nobody’s gonna read the info to them!!

        • iowaheretic

          I’m not a Republican or Democrat, I don’t have to be! As Thomas Jefferson stated; No one has to give the whole system of my opinions to any one party, in anything. You should really read more of his writings, along with Thomas Paine’s writings, to see the REAL TRUTH on how this country was founded. Belief in “God” is totally irelevant. Anybody can “use” god to push any agenda they want. The character of “Jesus” himself was a socialist. Barrack Obama is a christian, Joe Biden is a Catholic, most everyone in the Democratic party and Congress is a christian. Adolph Hitler was a christian, and worked with the Catholic Church to promote his Nazi party. The Republican’s, along with the Religious Right, just “use” the idea of “God” to promote corporate fascism and war(Democrat’s are no better). This country was founded on the Age of Reason, the Enlightenment Era, and Common Sense, NOT on the Christian Crusades or the King’s Army!

        • http://rebecca@gbryant.com R. Bryant

          angel-wanna-be and everyone,

          Please check out http://www.articlesoffreedom.us/Introduction.aspx . This may be the quickest, most effective, PEACEFUL way to hold our elected officials accountable to our CONSTITUTION. APRIL 19, 2010, IS THE SCHEDULED DATE FOR THESE DOCUMENTS TO BE DELIVERED TO OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS, AND WE NEED LARGE MASSES OF FREEDOM LOVING AMERICAN CITIZENS TO TAKE PART IN THE CEREMONIES TO HAVE THE GREATEST IMPACT ON THESE OFFICIALS!!!!! PLEASE HELP!!!! I have great concern to count on waiting to vote some of these officials out, because OBAMA IS MOVING AT SUCH A RAPID SPEED, I HAVE CONCERNS THAT HE WILL CLOSE DOWN OUR ACCESS TO THE INTERNET, AND CONCERVATIVE TALK RADIO, TO GREATLY HINDER OUR COMMUNICATION, WHICH IS SO IMPORTANT TO OUR MOVEMENT TO HELP US TO TAKE OUR FREEDOMS BACK AND BE GOVERNED BY OUR CONSTITUTION, AND TO KEEP OBAMA FROM GIVING ILLEGAL ALIENS AMNESTY, WHICH WOULD PROBABLY GIVE HIM (DEMOCRATES) MILLIONS MORE OF THE VOTES IN NOVEMBER!!! PLEASE SPREAD THE WORD ABOUT THE ARTICLES OF FREEDOM!! APRIL 19, 2010 IS QUICKLY APPROACHING. ALL OF THE CONSERVATIVE GROUPS NEED TO UNITE!!! WE CAN WORK IN MORE THAT ONE GROUP!!! THANKS!!!!

          • eyeswideopen

            r. bryant, is this the one where everyone is carrying a gun so they can’t actually get into DC, but they will go into VA?

          • Joel Johnston

            Eyes, your examples of Jesus as a socialist demonstrate the opposite you moron. The message is the share your own “shirt” with those in need. When the tax collector aks Jesus what to do Jesus says, “collect no more than is legal”. It is not legal to collect taxes in America for the purpose of charity. That is the responsibility of individuals who have more than one “shirt”. Maybe you should focus on the Q’uaran.

          • angel-wanna-be

            Eyes, Go away you’re bothering us.

          • Fed Up Gal in NM

            Way to go, Joel Johnston! Great rationale! Thank you.

            Fed Up Gal

          • eyeswideopen

            Joel, you obviously are not a Christian or you can’t read.

          • Fed Up Gal

            Eyes,

            Ref: Your response to Joel Johnston.

            Here you go again with that PLLL, non-judgemental [NOT] and Christian [NOT VERY] thought process.

            Fed Up Gal

      • EltonJ

        You know, if Barrack was struck down with leprosy, I bet that would be worth reporting.

        • angel-wanna-be

          EltonJ, the liberal news media would probably say even that was racially motivated!

          • EltonJ

            Now that I think of it, having a President of African descent when we have racial problems in our country is really a bad idea. Say something against him, or something comes up about him that is negatory and the press plays the “racist” card.

            He gets sick with cancer — “Its the Racists!” He gets criticized by a Black Minister — “It’s Racist!” He gets praised by Glenn Beck — “It’s Racist!”

        • Hugh Jordan

          You must be bitter about the outcome of the Civil War, or The War of Northern Aggression as some call it.

        • EltonJ

          Becareful what you wish for, Gary. You might just get it. Just make sure you’re not the one who causes it.

        • Claire

          gary — If you are referring to the President of the United States–you are guilty of tyranny and treason. It does not matter if the President is Democrat or Republican, if you are unhappy with either party, vote them out. You are the type of person America does not need. May God have mercy on your pitiful soul, if you have one.

        • Normal Guy

          I will make a point of letting those officials that we support with our taxes to help maintain the rule of law that this is how you feel. I hope that real American patriots make a point of digging you out of your viper pit and dealing with you.

          You sir are the lowest form of scum.

          • Normal Guy

            The post was directed to a vile comment by Gary which was removed. Good for you Bob Livingston.

      • marvin

        Beberoni you are 100% right i could not have stated in better .all anyone with a 2nd grade goverment education had to do was just do a small amount of fact checking and that an,t from abc/cbs /nbc/ cnn /hln this far left liberal stood up in front of millions a lot of them wanting to put there hand in someone pocket for more handouts and obama is just what they were looking for a man that said i won so set down and shut up and if you [my subjects]disagree we will get in your face i say he who forgets the mistakes of the past will live to repeat them

      • JeffH

        Beberoni, magnificent! I was once impressed with his speeches, but very quickly realized that was all they were. After looking at his political record, his voting record and a liitle background checking, this wasn’t my guy either. His life’s goal has been dedicated to embracing the Marxist/communist/socialist mentality, which he has done nearly perfectly. Fortunately, you can only cry wolf so many times before most don’t believe you anymore
        Obama’s Marxist and Alinsky teachings is the forefront of this guys persona. Speak in volumes, but say nothing. Deception has been a wonderful tool for Obama and his “foot” soldiers.
        To even waste the time to engage these so called “foot soldiers” is a lesson in futility. All you get in return is Bush/Cheney, where were you when…, why didn’t you…so you believe that…what would you do…you conservative/republicans…those are the same type of questions that Saul Alinsky wants asked to disrupt and change the direction of the conversation with the opposition.
        Obama and the liberal socialis left has been exposed BIGTIME and it is time to turn the tide for good.

      • http://eachstateretaliate.blogspot.com/ Tea Party Tim

        I have been doing my best to make sure that people are informed. I am not interested in selling books, speaking engagements or campaign contributions. I desperately want American people to be involved in selecting and voting for qualified canidates.

        The post name that I use connect to a blog site that list by State the politicians that voted for health care reform. As I have been able, videos have been added to expose who these people are and what they believe. I would much rather let you listen to these people in their own words than get into a “he said, she said” debate.

        • JeffH

          Tim, could you post the correct link please. It would be much simpler for all.
          Thanks

        • American Citizen

          If you listen/watch Fox News every evening, one of the commentators has a politician on to answer questions. I can’t believe some of the stuff I hear out of their mouths. I don’t know if they are ignorant of the Constitution or just plain ignorant.

      • Fed Up Gal in NM

        Beberoni,

        You are absolutely correct; thank you for once again stating what most are feeling!

        I’ve pasted (below) a copy of an email I received this morning that I feel puts it all in perspective like you did. Now, I don’t know for certain the email message really came from a 912 group in Ohio, or how authentic in language it really is. I did some research and did find it on-line, so I’m assuming it is authentic. If it is not authentic, i.e., if the discussion never occured, it should have or should occur. I apolize in advance for the length of the message, but I do feel it’s worth the time and read.

        Fed Up Gal

        912 email message posted below this line~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
        ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~:

        Please read the following – this is from a member of a 912 group in Westerville , Ohio

        I was in my neighborhood restaurant this morning and was seated behind a group of jubilant individuals celebrating the successful passing of the recent health care bill. I could not finish my breakfast. This is what ensued:

        They were a diverse group of several races and both sexes. I heard the young man exclaim, “Isn’t Obama like Jesus Christ? I mean, after all, he is healing the sick.” The young woman enthusiastically proclaimed, “Yeah, and he does it for free. I cannot believe anyone would think that a free market would work for health care. They are all crooks and thieves and don’t deserve all of that money.” Another said, ‘The stupid Republicans want us all to starve to death so they can inherit all of the power. Obama should be made a Saint for what he did for those of us less fortunate.” At this, I had had enough.

        I arose from my seat, mustering all the restraint I could find, and approached their table. “Please excuse me; may I impose upon you for one moment?” They smiled and welcomed me to the conversation. I stood at the end of their table, smiled as best I could and began an experiment.

        “I would like to give one of you my house. It will cost you no money and I will pay all of the expenses and taxes for as long as you live there. Anyone interested?” They looked at each other in astonishment. “Why would you do something like that?” asked a young man, “There isn’t anything for free in this world.” They began to laugh at me, as they did not realize this man had just made my point. “I am serious, I will give you my house for free, no money what so ever. Anyone interested?” In unison, a resounding “Hell Yeah” fills the room.

        “Since there are too many of you, I will have to make a choice as to who receives this money free bargain.” I noticed an elderly couple was paying attention to the spectacle unfolding before their eyes, the old man shaking his head in apparent disgust. “I tell you what; I will give it to the one of you most willing to obey my rules.” Again, they looked at one another, an expression of bewilderment on their faces. The perky young woman asked, “What are the rules?” I smiled and said, “I don’t know. I have not yet defined them. However, it is a free home that I offer you.” They giggled amongst themselves, the youngest of which said, “What an old coot. He must be crazy to give away his home. Go take your meds, old man.” I smiled and leaned into the table a bit further. “I am serious, this is a legitimate offer.” They gaped at me for a moment.

        “Hell, I’ll take it you old fool. Where are the keys?” boasted the youngest among them. “Then I presume you accept ALL of my terms then?” I asked. The elderly couple seemed amused and entertained as they watched from the privacy of their table. “Oh hell yeah! Where do I sign up?” I took a napkin and wrote, “I give this man my home, without the burden of financial obligation, so long as he accepts and abides by the terms that I shall set forth upon consummation of this transaction.” I signed it and handed it to the young man who eagerly scratched out his signature. “Where are the keys to my new house?” he asked in a mocking tone of voice. All eyes were upon us as I stepped back from the table, pulling the keys from pocket and dangling them before the excited new homeowner.

        “Now that we have entered into this binding contract, witnessed by all of your friends, I have decided upon the conditions you are obligated to adhere from this point forward. You may only live in the house for one hour a day. You will not use anything inside of the home. You will obey me without question or resistance. I expect complete loyalty and admiration for this gift I bestow upon you. You will accept my commands and wishes with enthusiasm, no matter the nature. Your morals and principles shall be as mine. You will vote as I do, think as I do and do it with blind faith. These are my terms. Here are your keys.” I reached the keys forward and the young man looked at me dumb founded.

        “Are you out of your freaking mind? Who would ever agree to those ridiculous terms?” the young man appeared irritated. “You did when you signed this contract before reading it, understanding it and with the full knowledge that I would provide my conditions only after you committed to the agreement.” Was all I said. The elderly man chuckled as his wife tried to restrain him. I was looking at a now silenced and bewildered group of people. “You can shove that stupid deal up you’re a** old man, I want no part of it” exclaimed the now infuriated young man. “You have committed to the contract, as witnessed by all of your friends; you cannot get out of the deal unless I agree to it. I do not intend to let you free now that I have you ensnared. I am the power you agreed to. I am the one you blindly and without thought chose to enslave yourself to. In short, I am your Master.” At this, the table of celebrating individuals became a unified group against the unfairness of the deal.

        After a few moments of unrepeatable comments and slurs, I revealed my true intent. “What I did to you is what this administration and congress did to you with the health care legislation. I easily suckered you in and then revealed the real cost of the bargain. Your folly was in the belief that you can have something you did not earn; that you are entitled to that which you did not earn; that you willingly allowed someone else to think for you. Your failure to research, study and inform yourself permitted reason to escape you. You have entered into a trap from which you cannot flee. Your only chance of freedom is if your new Master gives it unto you. A freedom that is given can also be taken away; therefore, it is not freedom.” With that, I tore up the napkin and placed it before the astonished young man. “This is the nature of your new health care legislation.”

        I turned away to leave these few in thought and contemplation and was surprised by applause. The elderly gentleman, who was clearly entertained, shook my hand enthusiastically and said, “Thank you Sir, these kids don’t understand Liberty these days.” He refused to allow me to pay my bill as he said, “You earned this one, it is an honor to pickup the tab.” I shook his hand in thanks, leaving the restaurant somewhat humbled, and sensing a glimmer of hope for my beloved country.

        Use reason, it is the closest you are going to get to Godly conduct
        Clifford A. Wright

        Please feel free to share with others

        • JeffH

          Fed Up Gal in NM…what a great email and you can bet I’ll pass it on with pleasure. Thank you for sharing and caring. Bless you.

        • angel-wanna-be

          FED UP GAL__That gave me the chills!!__Thanks for sharin!__I’m gonna share it too!!__GOD BLESS

          • Fed Up Gal in NM

            JeffH and AngelWB,

            Thank you; I’m glad you enjoyed the read. I also found it rather touching, so I certainly hope it is authentic….but, like I said…if the discussion did not happen….it should happen sooner than later. I almost did not post it, because it’s rather long…but now I’m glad I did. God bless you both (and your families).

          • American Citizen

            This reminds me of the Bill Cosby show where he teaches his son, Theo, the value of money. He gave him a wad of bills, then started charging him for rent, food, clothing, insurances, etc., to where Theo only had a couple of dollars left. Of course, Theo, didn’t like it that he no longer had much in his pockets, but that’s the way it works. Young people are always surprised when they get their first paycheck to see how much is taken out in taxes That percentage is going to go up. it has to. There is no such thing as a free lunch, especially if the government is involved..

        • George E

          Thank you so much for posting this wonderful story. I’ll be sure to share it with my friends.

          • Fed Up Gal in NM

            George E,

            It was my pleasure; I’m glad you enjoyed it.

          • Fed Up Gal in NM

            George E,

            I also enjoyed American Citizen’s recap of the Bill Cosby episode…lol.

  • Darrel

    Why wait until November when the crooks in Congress have a chance to build up a head of steam (and use the funds from special interests)? Recall elections NOW!

    • William Nealey

      Darrel I agree with you 100%. we should have a recall election six months ago wouldn’t have been too soon. I am an independant and I usualy prety much split my vote. but the next election their is only one democrat I may vote for and he has done a good job and dosn’t toe the party line. on the other hand kay hagan thinks obummer pays her salary not we the people. it will be a cold day in hell when she gats a vote from me,

    • Jay Gee

      Darrel,

      I agree with you 100%. Someone else said “we should hold their feet to the fire” after they are elected. How do we do that? No one is talking about recall elections and we should be. No one is talking about impeaching anyone and we should be. No one has said we should send a signal NOW by electing ALL new blood starting at the local level elections coming every month NOW. Let’s know our local candidates and vote for the best person for the job. “MAKE A WELL INFORMED VOTE.” Let’s not let anyone in to any office at any level if they are beholding to anyone besides “We The People.” Can we not get a groundswell of a few million people to call for the WILL OF THE PEOPLE to rescind obummercare? Recall elections now!

  • Dale Hogue

    This article should be forwarded to everybody on your email list in order that We The People can become more informed about what is happening as a result of the Obama administration and the Democratic Party turning the United States Constitution upside down and inside out for illicit political purposes.

    • William Nealey

      Dale you are so right. the internet is a wonderfull thing. that is why more people are getting wise to the politicians and it’s allso the reason obummer and this regime wants to take controll of it,

      • angel-wanna-be

        W,Nealey__Absolutely, Control the news Media, control the world!!_-That’s why we gotta keep spreading the word!

      • JeffH

        Dale Hogue and William Nealey, great comments and I’ll be forwarding this dialogue through email. Thanks!

  • TIME

    Again we need real people with a spine, ones that will do what we the people want not what they the elected persons wants, “No more POSERS.”

    We really need to have a game plan, talk about whos running where, and who would be the best fit in that area, then work that person even if they don’t get a single moment of air time.

    Work for the BEST person for the job, one with set. One thats not going to back down when one of the twisted twinkies in DC BW tells them what to do.
    They work for YOU and your Familys not some twisted little freak thats been in DC beltway for the last 20-50 years thus so BENT they can’t see straight.

    ” NO MORE POSERS! “

    • TIME

      Ok folks take a look at;

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?V=19R-cQ_A_6w

      If this fails to make you sick from laughing then I have no words.

      In Georgia, this guy Hank Johnson has to go, They do have a good guy named Dr. Paul Broun who is running this fall so anyone in his area
      you know the drill, Dr. Broun has spoken up about the HCR bill – as well amny others, that are at best insane, such as the taking away of 1st Admt Rights 2nd Admt, Rights.
      I have spoken with Dr. Broun – he is the real deal as in a real good guy – that can’t be bought.

      • TIME

        I don’t know why the link is not working just google Youtube, Hank Johnson and have at it.

        • JeffH

          This guy was unbelievable and he represents the people of America.
          It amazes me that someone like this can actually become an elected representative.

          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9R-cQ_A_6w&feature=related

          • TIME

            Jeff – Thanks for posting what I obviously screwed up.

            Thats a real first for me an, Island capsizing with the extra 8000 people on it.
            Perhaps he should learn about “the eqaul weight distribution theory.” LOL :/) LOL :-))

          • JeffH

            Obviously he is aware of the “equal protection law”. Even dummies can be protected from impeachment.

          • Palin12

            OMG I think his brain capsized :-)

  • s c

    First, Corker, Castle and Kirk are POND SCUM! Get them out of Washington, and KEEP them OUT! Second, anyone who can find a way to suck-up to the scuzzy likes of the White House twins, pelosi, reid and any of the other LOSERS in Washington is NOT working for us.
    The schizoids on the other side of the aisle wil never get it through their boneheads that freedom is much MORE than a word. Fiscal accountability is much MORE than a concept. IF those WEASELS had any idea what responsibility and true CONCERN are, they’d pay for Obummer’s stupidity out of their own pockets.
    But, that’s not how they do things. They think America can be manipulated 24/7, and no one needs to suffer any consequences for that STUPIDITY. I’ve seen enough ponzi scheme administrations and domestic treason to know that a large portion of the solution is to do to THEM what they’ve done to America for so long.
    They have no plans to lead America. They DON’T work for US. Give them reasons to stay at home and not get into “professional” politics. NO MORE CAREER POLITICIANS. NO MORE RELIANCE ON POLITICAL PARTIES.
    NO MORE INSANITY. NO MORE RETIREMENT AT OUR EXPENSE. Get a REAL JOB, and GO AWAY!

    • William Nealey

      S C you are right we need people who will when elected. go to washington and start introducing bill to repeal all retirement plans for politicians and put them on the social security system that I have paid into all of my life those SCUMBAGS haven’t paid into anything yet they think they are intitled to a huge retirement check for doing nothing for four years except inlarge their bank accounts at the tax payers expense.

      • Michelle

        Right on William! I’ve been saying the same thing. Make the politicians live with the laws they impose on us. No more double standards, no more preferential treatment given to any government employee or elected official. We are supposed to be one country and everyone should have to play by the same laws/rules.

        • JeffH

          I’m with you guys all the way.

  • http://Checkout Connie

    a new group called Downsize DC at DownsizeDC.org to see an organization that has a plan to reduce the federal government from the ground up. No confrontations, no name-calling, no ugly news confrences—just people coming together with a joint cause to replace the career polititions with concerned citizens who have new ideas and think outside the box, as they say.

    • JeffH

      Connie. I recieve regular email updates from them..another good information website. Here’s the link:
      http://www.downsizedc.org/

      • http://rebecca@gbryant.com R. Bryant

        JeffH,

        Please check out http://www.articlesoffreedom.us/Introduction.aspx . Please share this information with all ASAP!!! APRIL 19, 2010, is the scheduled day to PEACEFULLY deliver the ARTICLES OF FREEDOM TO OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS!!!! THANKS!!!!

        • JeffH

          R. Bryant , I had taken that pledge several months ago and have also passed it through my emails to all of my friends.

          Thank you for the reminder though.

          • http://rebecca@gbryant.com R. Bryant

            Jeff,

            I am glad to hear that! I sure wish we could get a lot of publicity for this!! I do not understand why the Tea Party and others are not promoting this more, and especially from more of the ones like Beck, Hanity, etc., at the very least, to let people know about it, and make up their own minds about it!!!! I really appreciate that Judge Napolitano has spoken out about it, but I wish that he would do comercials on Fox, supporting this!!!!

        • eyeswideopen

          r bryant, ok, your web site identified everything wrong, but where are the articles of freedom? What are they? By the way, the Constitution gives control of all state militias to the President. He is in control of them. You propably need to read the Constitution. But where are the articles of freedom? Are they written out and can be accessed by internet?

    • gary

      You might find this amusing. I have heard this from many foreigners that have wanted to immigrate to the U.S.. Many have told me too strict, too much government. I felt like someone was trying to stangle me. America is not the land of the free like we are told.

  • B.J. Holmes

    If Amnesty passes, conservatives might never again win an election. With the new names for Acorn and its affiliates, honest elections already might have gone out the window. Urge everyone to do their duty and “vote the bums out”. Remember, however, that there are a few good men in Washington. Very few!! Let’s keep them. We need God’s help. If He is for us, who can be against us?

  • James

    I’m confused. “Comment Policy: We encourage an open discussion with a wide range of viewpoints, even extreme ones, but we will not tolerate racism, profanity or slanderous comments toward the author(s) or comment participants. Make your case passionately, but civilly. Please don’t stoop to name calling.”

    Your commentary violates your own stated policy. You use name calling throughout.

    As far as comments are concerned, does this quote from one of the comments sound civil? “…pay off votes and getting laid BY SOMEONE OTHER THAN YOUR WIVES!!”

    I really have to wonder how you define “civilly” and “name calling”….

    • Barb

      Actually James, at this point that is pretty civil, especially when you consider the fact that it’s all true! If it were slander and falsehoods then maybe you would have a point but she was right on and you know it! As far as what Bob had to say, VERY NICE ARTICLE BOB!!! Thanks! Let’s hope that we can all outsmart the Rinos AND the Acorn bunch and any other tricks Obama has in store for us for our “free and fair” elections this year and in 2012!

    • http://victorbarney@embarqmail.com Victor L Barney

      I hear you, but there comes a time when racism has nothing to do it it! Israel(America) was commanded in the BOOKS of the LAW in Deuteronomy 17:15 never to put a “foreigner” in over us(non-Isrealite(son of Joseph), wherever he or she was born! Fact, America is a son of Joseph, was given the promise of greatness through RACE! Fact, Obama is a black man, not an Israelite, so, the difference again, being women(as in Eden), put this “forbidden” foreigner in over us! America, we haven’t seen anything yet! We continue to “reject” the LAW of Elohim, the Hebrew Supreme Deity written about in all bibles, although the names were changed in 1520 by the Catholic Pope to help deceive the whole world! If who worship “Jesus” you actually worship Zeus! It is written history, folks! Watch!

      • Hugh Jordin

        please clarify

    • William Nealey

      james you sound like a typical liberal,

      • dfocus

        here here!!

    • James

      For the record, I am not the ‘James’ that wrote this. How many James’ ae there now?

      • JeffH

        I might suggest you use a last initial after your name to avoid further confusion. You certainly aren’t the first to face that dilemma, and probably won’t be the last.

    • Doc Sarvis

      James, I agree with you assessment. I have sometimes reminded folks on this site that it is personalliberty.com and not personalattacks.com.

      • Doc Sarvis

        Make that to James says.

      • JeffH

        EhhhWhat’s up Doc Sarvis,
        It is apparent that you don’t even understand what personal liberty means.

        • Doc Sarvis

          I do understand what “we will not tolerate racism, profanity or slanderous comments toward the author(s) or comment participants. Make your case passionately, but civilly. Please don’t stoop to name calling” means.

          • JeffH

            Doc Sarvis…I don’t think so…

          • libertytrain

            it is still a subjective statement by the owner of this site, asking for a minimum of decency – and if you’ve been here long you would have seen many things have been removed – not all but many.

          • eyeswideopen

            Doc, our little two year old Jeffie, doesn’t like to play by the rules. But he wants everyone else to show him deference. That’s how those who are on socialist government programs act. They have an auroa of entitlement. You had better show him oodles of respect or he will slam you until hell freezes over.

    • marvin

      james a pollcat[skunk]is the same by any other name they still smell bad

    • JeffH

      …you must be James “the lawyer”.

  • Mike Johnson

    I fear that our nation is on the down-slope of the Tytler cycle… probably between apathy and dependence. Obamacare and all his rest of his socialist agenda, from socializing the banks, auto companies, insurance, and now health care, pushes us into dependence. The next step is bondage… reminds me of the story of how to catch wild pigs:

    “You catch wild pigs by finding a suitable place in the woods and putting corn on the ground. The pigs find it and begin to come every day to eat the free corn. When they are used to coming every day, you put a fence down one side of the place where they are used to coming. When they get used to the fence, they begin to eat the corn again and you put up another side of the fence. They get used to that and start to eat again.

    You continue until you have all four sides of the fence up with a gate in the last side. The pigs, who are used to the free corn, start to come through the gate to eat; you slam the gate on them and catch the whole herd. Suddenly the wild pigs have lost their freedom. They run around and around inside the fence, but they are caught.

    Soon they go back to eating the free corn. They are so used to it that they have forgotten how to forage in the woods for themselves, so they accept their captivity.” – author unknown

    Sounds like America today… BUT there is still a chance to reverse that decline. We have a small window of opportunity: this years election and the 2012 election. We must fight to take back our Country, our Constitution, and our Liberty as if our lives depend on it. MAKE NO MISTAKE, if the conservatives do not take control following the 2012 elections, then I fear that we will be past the point of no return, and the Grand Experiment of Franklin, Jefferson, Adams, and the rest of the Founders will go into the history books, and their Spirits will weep….

    • gary

      Not if you are willing to do what hundreds of thousands have done before and after 1776, to preserve our freedom. Spill blood and maybe give the ultimate sacrifice in respect for all those honorable people that have done just that. You also sound like a liberal if you say you hate violence. If you really want the America that we all love to return, you will need to get very serious. If all else fails what other choice do we have? GIVE IN? Never!

  • http://victorbarney@embarqmail.com Victor L Barney

    Isn’t it quite ironic that like in the days of two-thousand years ago, all could tell the given signs for the weather, but not the times! Israel(America) has put a totally forbidden “foreigner” in office as President (Deut.17:15), which never has happened before, and like in the garten of Eden, it was WOMEN who made the difference to put this “foreigner” in as Israel’s leader(i.e., Israel is Not Judah, who was not given the NAME ISRAEL in the first place)! No matter what; because it doesn’t make a difference if Obama was born in Africa or not(I’m sure that he was, but it makes no difference), the Two Witnesses of Yahshua, son of the Hebrew, spiritual father YAHWEH are coming soon to punish Israel for putting a “foreigner” over them, let alone rejecting his SAVIOR of all humanity! And, the beat goes on!!!

    • James

      Victor B., well said. But, I disagree with your statement that President Obama’s lack of citizenship doesn’t matter. The U.S. Constitution, Art. II, Sec. 1, Cl. 5 reads” “No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States,…shall be eligible to the Office of President…”
      I have a copy of Barack Hussein Obama II’s Kenyan birth certificate. It is Certificate No. 32018, and states that Obama was born in the Coast Province General Hospital, there, on the ’4th day of August, 1961′ at ’7:24 PM.’ The attending doctor ‘James O. W. Ang’awa’ signed it on ’8/8/1961′; and the Supervisor of Obstetrics ‘John Kwane Odongo’ signed it on ’8-7-1961.’ Obama’s right foot-print is in the lower left corner. He weighed ’7 pounds 1 ounce’, at birth, and measured ’18 inches’ long, with ’6 inches’ ‘Width Between Shoulders.’
      If we don’t stand up for that part of our constitution, we wont stand up for any of it. Whether we think that’s important or not, is beside the point, it’s the U.S. Constitution.

      • http://victorbarney@embarqmail.com Victor L Barney

        James, I agree with you, but it doesn’t change a thing if Obama was born here or not! The book of the Law says that NO person but an Israelite(Sorry, No Black person can become a natural-born Israelite born here or not)according use the Bible, which America is! Do you think that our Creator is a Racist,too?! Watch! Sorry, but the old covenant can be deductively proven to be the “only” inspired word of our creator!
        For more information, go to email: info@icyahweh.org;

      • http://rebecca@gbryant.com R. Bryant

        James,

        Where did you get yourcopy of obama’s birth certificate, and are you sure that it is correct? I have heard that there is supposed to be a recording or something of his grandmother saying that he was born in Kenya! Also, please check out http://www.articlesoffreedom.us/Introduction.aspx as maybe the best solution for our country to QUICKLY, AND PEACEFULLY hold our elected officials accountable to our CONSTITUTION, ETC. AND GET OUR FREEDOMS BACK!!!

      • angel-wanna-be

        James , for myself, If I were you, I’d like to be absolutely sure, that the copy of the birth certificate you have is in no uncertain terms authentic___Time will tell the truth__God says, “whatever is done in secret, will be revealed”__this is absolute truth too!

  • Charlie Denger

    Time for America to WAKE-UP. The citizens (voters) surely know our political system is drastically flawed (broken). Now is the time to change the system and return our ‘Government’ to the constitution and “ We The People “, what ‘The Founding Fathers’ initiated for our country. GOOOH is rapidly growing. GOOOH, pronounced ‘go’ – Get Out Of Our House – has a plan to save our country. GOOOH is non-partisan. The candidates are chosen by
    a selection process. As representatives they are NOT controlled by a party ( Creator, constituents, and conscience ),nor tied to special interests (money), nor serving of self (two terms or less),and they also are held accountable (signed contract). Check out GOOOH. Become a member. Join us in saving our country and making history. Your country needs you.

  • John

    This was a government of the people, for the people and by the people.
    America doesn’t know who these guy are , but they are not for Americans.
    Senate votes are for sell , new Ambassadorships are promised
    because of senatorial endorsements of a poorly constructed healtcare
    package(reelection highly unlikely).The EPA is totally gone beserk.
    Where is common sense ?
    The approach of Socialism is a staged grandiose act , Remember it is an act and it’s not free.

  • Sharon Scully

    I think you “tea partyers” are nuts!! You just don’t want any one to have health care. This is not Marxist or Socialist anymore than the public school system is in this country. Everyone gets an education through high school for free — everyone gets decent health care. It’s that simple.

    • Mike Johnson

      I hope your obamacare gives better results than our public school systems (compare with private schools), the US Postal System (compare with UPS or FedEx), etc, etc…. Need I say more?

      • Cel

        Mike, I have a lot of “educators” in my family and I hate to admit it, but our school systems are a mess….if these kids learn anything in some of these rooms it is because they have parents who are teaching them. Our “unions” can be thanked for that….and in our state…they “double dip” and put people who are in the “education” system in the legislative system so ….there you go….I had a friend who works in education….”we need people in the system, so they can vote for us” ….I ask her who was looking out for the little lady next door…….Mike…..this is our CONGRESS…..have you kept up with “Craig Becker” ? Obama worked for over a year to get him on the “Labor Board” why……to pay “organized Unions” back…..Becker was a top lawyer for the bib “UNIONS”

        sad…sad…

        ***

        • angel-wanna-be

          cEL, I’M HEARING THAT!__My half sister was a Math teacher locally for 38 years. She said that it was nothing for her to scold a student and send he/she to the principles office and the next day, she would arrive at her room and find a lawyer there, wanting to discuss the disapline of the student the day before. Now I don’t doubt they have a issue with disapline in the schools, but our politically correct parental society over the years has created this very problem, these kids and the lawyers run the schools!__Now, on the other hand my half sister claimed she didn’t have a voice in how to vote in our elections, she said “had” to vote Democrat.__Personall I think she full of it there, but if not, I’ve never heard of the teachers union having a card check?___Is Anyone out there who could respond?

          • Claire

            Teachers Unions do endorse certain parties. However, my girlfriend is a teacher and she still was able to vote for whomever she wanted. I have another friend that is a reired teacher, she voted for who she wanted too.

          • Claire

            Egads— retired

          • angel-wanna-be

            Claire, Thanks for the info. Some of what my half siter said as a teacher made sense, but others didn’t.

          • JeffH

            Claire, everyone should make their own decisions about their votes. Sure, some are completely loyal to “their” party. Good for your freinds to make their own decisions and not feel pressured to make “someone else” vote as their own.

            Further up I saw your comment regarding racism. Unfortunately, racism will always exist as long as man exists. I wasn’t raised that way and I don’t like racism, and you’ll often see me reprimand someone, liberal or not. To me, a racist is a racist! Wish it wasn’t like that.

    • Mike Johnson

      I should add: public education is NOT free… it is paid for by the taxes paid by those of us that actually work for a living and/or own property.

      • George E

        You can say that again! Homeowners are charged thousands of dollars each year in property taxes to pay for public education. I’ve noticed the more the federal government has gotten involved, the more expensive it has gotten as well. It’s anything but “free”. I’ve also noticed that the quality of education has been steadily declining as the Feds and the NEA have gotten control of the public education system. But hey, I’m sure all they need is MORE OF OUR MONEY to fix these problems………..ugh!

      • angel-wanna-be

        YOU ARE RIGHT! __OUR PROPRTY TAX ALONE, IN 1075 WAS AROUND $850 A YEAR__WERE ON THE SAME PROPERTY, IN THE SAME HOUSE WITH NO ADDITIONS, AND OUR PROPERTY TAX NOW TIPS THE SCALES, AT DAMN BEAR $4,000 A YEAR AND THATS PROPERTY TAX ALONE!___NOW IF EVERY PROPERTY OWNER PAID THAT KIND OF TAX, DON’T YOU THINK OUR KIDS SHOULD BE GETTING WHAT WE PAID FOR AND THAT IS, THAT OUR KIDS ARE TAUGHT OUR “TRUE AMERICAN HISTORY” AND NOT THE WAY OUR DEAR LIBERAL IDIOTS THINK OUR HISTORY “SHOULD HAVE BEEN?”

        • angel-wanna-be

          SORRY MISPELLED_ I MEANT 1975

          • TIME

            No big deal AWB, I bet you didn’t know that Albet Einstin could not spell to save his life, thats 100% TRUE.
            I would say he was one of the most wrinkeled gray matter people of the last 500 years.
            I mean come on anyone who can prove the speed of light at 20 years old, now thats a sign of a really well wrinkeled brain.

            As to any Buffoon that thinks public schools are “FREE,” how can anyone be that bloody “stupid?”
            The property taxs paid by anyone who owns real estate pays for Public schools.
            Get the idea its a “TAX.”

          • angel-wanna-be

            Time, thanks, BTW, If Einstein couldn’t spell, then I guess it’s ok, that I still add 2 + 2 and get 5!__Just a Chuckle!

          • Claire

            As I have said before, my kids went to Lutheran schools. And I still paid taxes for the public school system, and I’m still paying them. Did I bitch? No. It was my choice to send my kids to a parochial school. Did I bitch about paying taxes for the public school system back then? No. Do I bitch now about paying taxes for schools? No. But I will and do bitch about the quality (lack thereof) of education that the kids have received for the past decades and what they are receiving today.

          • George E

            Public schools are typical of what you can expect from a government program; ie, high cost and low quality……

    • angel-wanna-be

      sharon scully__WOW!—What fairytale are you reading?

    • Cel

      Our country can not “give” good health care to all….and that is not what you will get in 2014…you will have to take a “gap” policy out if you get good insurance … just as Medicare people do.

      Just why do you think your country should give you health care ? senior have paid for it, and pay every month after they start getting it. Look, you will pay….and if you don’t IRS will track you.

      I would be nice if our country could give everyone homes, food, utilities, insurance, cars, all they want….but we can’t sustain this…..we don’t have enough rich people …LOL….

      What is so bad about working for our needs ?? I am proud when I have “earned” something. My children and grandchildren have been encouraged to “earn” ….not expect….”give me, give me..” man this is not what I want my grandchildren to think.

      **

    • Barb

      Sharon, Obviously you are one of the NON- Working Class. If you worked you would know that the Public Schools are NOT free but funded very expensively through TAXES payed by tax payers! Property owners, salary makers, business owners etc. etc. People on Welfare don’t pay those taxes so they think everything is FREE! Well, guess what, IT AIN”T!! And the Osama Obamacare is going to be the most expensive tax ever! I can’t believe there are still people this ignorant still out there! Free education my a…

    • Doug

      Free please explain how it’s free? The unions and the boards of education are stealing money left and right! There is nothing free our taxes pay for these schools and the unions and the board steals the money and spends it on themselves and their families. You have no idea do you what free is? Free is the air you breath and I would not count on that to much longer the wonderful people in Washington are working on how to tax it now as you breath!

    • EltonJ

      Decent Health Care isn’t a right, it’s a privilege. The problem with a Universal, National Health Care is that it puts a burden on the American taxpayer. It’s down right against the Constitution that the public funds are spent in a way that will burden the people.

      Free Healthcare for all Americans can only be achieved if we got rid of the money system as a commodity of exchange. However, since we can’t, it’s best to buy Healthcare from good Doctors and Insurance companies than to have the government pay for it for the public good. If people can’t afford it, other Americans have by their own freewill, donated money to pay for these services as voluntary charity.

      The Government has put in various unlawful acts for a long time. The Federal Reserve, our national bank, is one of these. The Fed should be ended and the U.S. Treasury Dept. should take care of printing our money and scrip since the Fed is not provided by the Constitution. Secondly, the IRS should be taken down because it is against the Constitution to impose an Income Tax, regardless of its being progressive or regressive, value added, or even flat. Finally, National Healthcare is a violation of our Constitution since Free Health Care was never ever in the Bill of Rights.

      Entitlement has become part of our culture, and its the worst thing since * help me out here. . . ) The American people are not entitled to free Health Care, but there should be some Healthcare reform.

      The Reforms have to start in Civil Court where some of the problem exists. Also, Insurance Companies should be allowed to export their plans to other states so we can have competition in the workplace. Finally, the AMA and the FDA should be abolished.

      • Tracy

        I have a huge concern with wanting to have the ability to buy HC across state lines. I am thinking this would actually ENABLE the Interstate Commerce Laws not be violated. This is the basis for the lawsuits being brought forth from our AGs’ of the various state right now!!!! If we stand a chance at repealing the abomination of OBAMACARE we need to keep the restriction against interstate commerce.

      • nickwolf

        INSURANCE COMPANIES DON’T COMPETE, THEY ARE A MONOPOLY UNAFFECTED BY ANTI-TRUST LAWS…UNTIL NOW!
        THEY FIXED PRICES FOR YEARS AND ONLY COMPETED WITH ADVERTISING. I KNOW MY FAMILY HAS OWNED AND INSURANCE COMPANY FOR 30 YRS, WE GO TO BI ANNUAL MEETINGS TO AGREE ON THE RATE BOOKS!
        PRICES GO UP BECAUSE CEO’S HAVE TO SHOW MORE PROFIT TO THEIR SHARHOLDERS EACH YR OR THEIR STOCK PRICES GO DOWN

        • denniso

          It boggles the mind that rightwingers side w/ corporate ins co’s and want them w/ their muti million dollar salaried ceo’s to control their healthcare….

          • George E

            We side with the private sector whenever it can do the job. We gnerally don’t trust government, and know it can’t deliver quality services at a lower cost than is possible in the private sector…..when the government gets out of the way and lets the private sector function in an open, competitive market.

          • denniso

            Do you actually believe that the ‘market’ has done a good job w/ our healthcare system? You don’t pay attention to the soaring costs and canceled policies and bankrupted Americans? By your statement we should clearly abandon all private enterprise in healthcare for their almost abject failure to deliver efficiently and affordably.

          • George E

            The markets can do better “if” government will get out of the way and let them work. We’ve seen many examples over time how the free market has delivered high quality services at low costs, while we’ve never seen an example of a government program that has done this. We have a few examples of governnment programs delivering a good quality service (like our military), but never at a low cost and high quality at the same time. Government certainly has a vital role in our society, but competing with the private sector isn’t one of them.

          • denniso

            George…for the ‘free market’ to work well and efficiently, the product has to be subject to supply and demand. Healthcare is not,it is often a matter of life and death,obviously. People can’t shop around when they need an appendectomy,or have chest pains or are in a car crash. The ‘market’ does not function for the overall benefit of society or the individual if the provider of the product has a monopoly or one sided control in the exchange of money for service. Healthcare is not like junk sold at Walmart that is not usually a vital necessity. Healthcare is a vital necessity like defense of the country is. That’s why we haven’t privatised the entire military.

          • George E

            Denniso,

            That’s an interesting argument. I agree that when people have a healthcare emergency they don’t have time to shop around. However, they generally do have time to shop for healthcare insurance before an emergency arises. And, I also agree that supply and demand will, or at least should determine the price and quality of services offered. So long as providers can make a profit, there should be sufficient providers willing to compete for our business. However, here again the government should be very careful not to mettle in this area in order not to overly complicate the process and increase costs and risks for providers.

          • Fed Up Gal in NM

            George E,

            Good points, George! Examples:

            1. When government, via it’s elected officials manipulate businesses such as mortgage/lending companies into loaning money to anyone….even those who can’t afford it. That’s another reason people can’t pay for their health insurance…because they end up living in homes they can’t aford or are so close to default on their mortgage, new cars, credit cards….you name it….if they want it….they figure they should be able to buy it and then taxpayers should be willing to pay for the things they actually need and should have paid for before buying something they can’t afford and don’t actually need.

            2. When public schools (same as government now) use taxpayer dollars to “lobby” (just replace lobby with “teachers’ Unions) the public into increased taxes to subsidize another losing proposition. Until schools, students, parents, unions start being accountable for much of the public school debacle…they should stop using part of “my” tax $, to lobby (replace lobby with manipulate) me into paying for their “Titanic” excuse of an educational system.

            3. If San Francisco (and other sanctuary cities) still receive Federal tax dollars…and I’m sure they do, those tax dollars should be repealed immediately. It’s a slap in the faces of U.S. citizens to be required to subsidize a city (or state for that matter) that provides sanctuary to illegal aliens. Personally, I think it might be a good idea for California (and similar acting states) to just succeed from the Union.

            4. USPS…..he he he….need I say more?

            5. Social Security….see # 4 above.

            6. Medicaid……fraud…waste….abuse…+ see #’s 4 and 5 above.

            7. And on and on and on…..ditto….see all of the above!

    • Pat R

      Sharon:

      Do you have any idea about what is being taught in our public schools today? Apparently not, by your comment!
      IT is not about Health Care and Obamacare does not do anything to help any person in the USA!!! It is meant to speed up the coming “New World Order!!

      God Forbid!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • marypat

      FYI public schooling has a lot of problems. There are no tea party people either, it’s a response, unorganized to some basic wrongs perptrated on the American people, especially in relation to taxation and control tactics placed on the middle class by elected officials and at times the courts.

    • JeffH

      Sharon Scully says:
      “I think you “tea partyers” are nuts!! You just don’t want any one to have health care”

      Where on earth has anybody in the Tea Party ever said they don’t want any one to have health care? Your lack of comprehention has clouded your ability to hear and understand the whole health care reform issue. It is THIS Health Care Bill that the majority do not want.

    • Delores Smith

      SHARON SCULLY,
      IT’S NOT ALL AS SIMPLE AS YOU SAY. OBAMA IS COMMITTING GRAND THEFT. YOU DON’T TAKE FROM THE ELDERLY TO DISTRIBUTE IT TO THOSE WHO ARE EITHER ILLEGAL OR SOMETIMES UNWILLING TO REACH FOR THE AMERICAN DREAM (THE ONE WE ONCE HAD).

      • gary

        OH! and by the way Sharon Free is not the American Dream. It is Freedom!!

      • Smilee

        Delores

        I’m elderly and Nothing has been taken from me, where do you get that BS, why tell lies, what is it you think he has taken from the elderly? all these bogus accusations without giving any evidence to support your BS

    • gary

      Sharon I do not mean to insult you, but you missed something in school. Nothing is free! We pay for everything with taxation at the very least. If everyone stopped paying taxes of all kinds, you would get the idea very quick.

      Tell me where it is written that you should have anything for free.Tell me where it is written that you should have anything??

      • angel-wanna-be

        Gary, your right nothings FREE,American Freedom isn’t FREE either,
        The tab has been paid by 234 years of bloo and continues today!

        • angel-wanna-be

          Sorry, I MEANT BLOOD!

  • Cel

    After pushing the bill through with buying votes and putting pressure on their party….they now are admitting that it is a transfer of the wealth….but the rich can not pay it…so look for a tax for all.

    With 35 years in Health Care…I can tell you, the insurance you now have will be nothing like what we will see in 2014.

    • JeffH

      Cel, I believe you and agree.

      • TIME

        Cel & Jeff,
        I agree with you 100% on the noted statment.

        You know when these people who think this is so special really wake up and find out what the real cost are in the BIG picture; they then will have a differant song that blows passed their lips.

        • JeffH

          I think they will be referred to as “the adults that were left behind”.

  • Dora

    We need to circulate these names as much as possible and get them out of Congress and Senate. I pulled the list of Socialist Democrats of America a few years back – before they pulled the membership list – and the Progressive Caucus list and these names were on BOTH lists. Some have moved on or died and I will not list them. Eni Faleomavaega, Edward Pastor, Lynn Woolsey, George Miler, Nancy Pelosi, Barbara Lee, Pete Stark, Henry Waxman, Xavier Becerra, Maxine Waters, Bob Filner, Diana DeGette, Eleanor Holmes Norton, Corrine Brown, Alcee Hastings, John Lewis, Neil Abercrombie, Bobby Lee Rush, Jesse L. Jackson, Jr., Luis Gutierrez (PUSHING ANOTHER AMNESTY RIGHT NOW), Danny Davis, John Olver, James McGovern, Barney Frank, John Tierney, Michael Capuano, Lynn Rivers, John Conyers, Jr., Bennie Thompson, Melvin Watt, Donald Payne, Jerrold Nadler, Major Owens, Nydia Velazquez, Charles Rangel, Maurice Hinchey, Marcy Kaptur, Dennis Kucinich, Sherrod Brown, Peter DeFazio, Chaka Fattah, William Coyne, Sheila Jackson lee, Robert Scott, Bernard Sanders, James McDermott, Tammy Baldwin and added since the list was pulled by the Wikipedia the Free Encyclopedia and you can find this on the internet are: Raul Grijalva, Michael Honda, Sam Farr, Judy Chu, Diane Watson, Lucille Roybal-Allard, LKaura Richardson, Lind Sanchez, Jared Polis, Rosa DeLauro, Alan Grayson, Robert Wexler, Hank Johnson, John Lewis, Mazie Hirono, Jan Schakowsky, Phil Hare, Andre Carson, Chellie Pingree, Donna Edwards, Elijah Cummings, Ed Markey, Carolyn Cheeks Kilpatrick, Keith Ellison, William L. Clay, Jr., Emanuel Cleaver, Frank Pallone, Ben Lujan, Yvette Clarke, Carolyn McNaloney, Jose Serrano, John Hall, Louise Slaughter, Eric Massa, Marcia Fudge, Earl Blumenauer, Bob Brady, Steve Cohen, Eddie Bernice Johnson, Jim Moran, Peter Welch, Gwen Moore, Donna Christensen, HELP VOTE THEM ALL OUT!!!

    • George E

      Interestingly, they infiltrated and now dominate the Democratic Party. They realized that they couldn’t possibly win elections in America running as Socialists, so they now run as Democrats. To those people who think Obama is so wonderful, would you have voted for him had he run as a Socialist Party candidate instead as a Democratic Party candidate? Probably not, but that’s exactly who and what he is………….Think about it.

      • Tracy

        I have been researching how Hitler came into power. The was lots of propaganda circulating that said they demanded jobs for all, housing for all, healthcare for all ect………this time in our country it is looking mor eand more to me like sheeple are leaning far too close to that fire. There is NO FREE LUNCH!!!!!

        • JeffH

          The propaganda has been spread mostly by the Soros organizations that control and influence the leftist media and the Democratic “Socialist” Party, and have influenced the lawmakers(Dems and Repubs) with a broad leftist/socialist spectrum of organizations that make a multitude of donations.

    • Claire

      Dora— This is great. Now give us the list of Republican RINOs.

      • George E

        It’s my guess that RINOs are unwittingly being swept along in a progressive culture that’s been growing like a cancer in our society for the past 100 years. We’ve all been conditioned to believe that the government can solve our problems, so it should come as no surprise when even conservatives “fall off the wagon” from time to time. It’s also why we need to go back to the original Constitution and capitalist teachings to determine what the government should, and shouldn’t try to do. Otherwise, we’ll get caught up in progressive thinking as well…..

  • dave shattuck

    I agree with connie,we need to get rid of all the polititions
    not just the democratics and republicans,start over we need
    regular people like midle class people who support the whole
    country. we a fair tax code such as a percent. That way the
    rich will pay their share. The way it is now the middle class
    support 70% of the taxes and rich with perks pay about 20%.
    I support the GOOOH GET OUT OF OUR HOUSE.

    DAVE SHATTUCK

    • Libby

      All I know is that we just paid our taxes yesterday. For the first time ever, we broke through the 250,000 dollar barrier. It took 15 years of my husband and I working our butts off, we both struggled through school for MANY years and together have over 100,000 dollars of student loans to repay. (Our payments are just over 1,000 a month for those.) In addition to the 63,000 dollars of taxes that we had paid for 2009 we had to write out a check for 4,000 more. After careful analysis we figured out that if I quit my job our tax burden will be less next year and we will almost come out about the same, so why should we continue to work any harder especially since now that everyone’s “free” healthcare has passed, we are going to be taxed at even a higher rate next year!

      • JeffH

        Certainly the way Obama would like to see it happen.

  • http://seome.com StevenH

    Exactly what is it you didn’t like? Arrogant elitists? Elected elitists? Elitist socialistic foot soldiers? Obama regime and his Marxists redistributionists?

    Sometimes theres just no other way of calling something what it is. C’mon man! I know the truth hurts but only to those that the truth exposes. I wish I’d see more articles like this one. I am so sick of being played by both parties thatI’m ready move out of my beloved country rather than stay to be a part of this socio-marxist endoctrination.

    • JeffH

      StevenH, some are just afraid to “call a apade a spade”, because that isn’t politically correct. Political correctness has always been a scapegoat for not calling it as you see it. Limbaugh, Hannity and Beck have been calling it what it is for a very long time now, but anybody that listens to them is called a nut. It’s been obvious for a long time now that they were pretty much on track…now America is opening their eyes and ears to the truths that come to light every day. It is time for the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth so help me God.

  • Cel

    No, the “tea party” people are not nuts….and they are called “Fair Tax” people…………….they want small gov. they don’t want high tax and big spending……if you would do some research and stop listening to “Nancy Pelosi” then you would know this.

    Did you by any chance see Pelosi interviewed a few weeks back and she was doing some back tracking ? NO ??? well she was say she fount middle ground with them…..”I say, no way” …..she is not for the people….she is for her “state” because they live on “entitlements”

    Wish up you people who think like “Maxine Waters” …..hey, do you remember her calling Bush a “war criminal” ? think she is calling Obama one now ???

    Nancy and Maxine are from the same school….hypocrisy..

    ****

  • Norm
    • Barb

      Norm, Go get a job, please!

      • Norm

        Barb
        You just hate people who don’t agree with you. Typical sheep. Glen Beck is thy shephard thou shalt not want.

        • Barb

          Number one Norm, I don’t hate you, you just irritate me, sorta like a rash. Number two, I don’t waste our money on cable therefore I don’t watch, listen, see, hear, or read Glen Beck, I am too busy to listen to your other idols,Laura, Rush and Hannity, though I wish I could, so that sorta blows that theory doesn’t it? I don’t need them to tell me what to think, I got a good Catholic Education and I have a good thinking brain even still at my age, soooo I know a charlatan when I see one and your president is just that! Now as far as the TEA Party goes it just warms me all over and all of the rest of us to know just how much we are scaring the bejeevers out of all of you!!! I mean why the hell else would you lefties including Osama Obama be so vocal about “just a few radical people” HA! Hang on Normy cuz we aren’t going away, we’re getting bigger and stronger!!!

          • Norm

            Barb
            Bigger and stronger yes, but smell isn’t everything.

          • JeffH

            Barb, it is best to dis-engage from the constant Alinsky motivated jibberish spilled be the bottom feeders and just ignore them completely. I know personally how difficult that can be, but we should all try to refrain. It just plays into their hand of disrupting this site.

          • gary

            Good post Barb.

        • Smilee

          Norm

          You shouldn’t have of given them facts, you know they cannot handle the truth. It is because they are so filled with hate that the truth irradiates them

    • http://aol Don

      Norm, great article. I notice that Bob, the elitist, did not put any of this information from Anne’s research in his article. Reagan and Bush spent a greater percent of the GDP than Obama is currently doing. Also, Obama is sending back more to the states than the other last 5 presidents. I’m not surprised that the Tea Baggers’s answers about taxes were way off, but this will happen when one follows Palin.

      • George E

        Don,

        You can see the actual data at this address: http://www.usgovernmentspending.com/us_20th_century_chart.html. As you can see, government spending has grown as a percent of GDP under Obama more than under any administration since FDR.

        Also, keep in mind that even though the Obama administration is sending more money to the states, it is with conditions. That is, they tell the states how to spend the money and sometimes require the states to spend other money, not provided from the federal government. These conditions often cause the states further financial problems and further dependence on the federal government, which extends its control over the states all that much more. The federal government is out of control, and getting measurably worse under the current regime.

  • Raggs

    Good article….
    I have been wondering how many of the republicans are going to sell out to the obama regime on the health care issue.

  • Norm

    When are responsible Republican leaders going to wake up and denounce the tea party radicals?

    http://www.kansasprairie.net/kansasprairieblog/?p=10344

    • Barb

      They aren’t radicals Normy, no matter how you or your Lamestream Media tries to spin it, so they will never denounce them, SORRY!! Maybe they will go out an denounce Obama lovers like you for being a major pain in the derrieres of all the Good people of America!

      • Tracy

        So NOrm, Its only ok for the lefties to protest? What happened to free speech?

    • George E

      Norm,

      I attended a Tea Party rally and observed the Tea Partiers to be middle-of-the road citizens who were protesting peaceably, and for the most part, respectfully. They had obviously hand-painted their own signs, because they weren’t professionally printed, and no two signs were the same. There was no central figure or authority telling them what to say or what to do. On the other hand, when a group of Pro-administration protesters showed up to counter the Tea Party, they were small in number, had professionally printed signs that were passed out by an on-site organizer, and were coached by the organizer to march and chant together for greatest effect and notice. And when the pro-administration group started to leave (on cue), they shouted obscenities and waved one-finger sign language at the Tea Partiers, who did not reply with equally obscene jesters.

      That’s my personal observation. What have you seen when you’ve attended Tea Party rallies? If you haven’t been to one, check it out of yourself. I think you’ll find that by and large Tea Party rallies are respectful and peaceful events attended by main stream Americans, not radicals as the liberal media have portrayed them to be.

      Obviously, Republicans understand that the Tea Party represents the views of the majority of Americans on a number of issues, so they are trying to listen and sychronize with them. That’s the smart thing to do, unlike the Democrats who want to make them out as radicals.

      • Norm

        George E
        The further right the Republicans go the more they allienate themselves to the world of reality.
        I’m still a registered Republican, as I have been since the late 60′s but I haven’t voted Republican since the Bush election of 2000, except for my state Governor. As long as Rush and company claim ownership of the party, I’m out.
        The Republicans will secure gains(but no majorities) this year. 2012 will be another term for Obama. The economy will have improved, people will have warmed up to a cheaper health coverage and frankly, so far, a decent candidated hasn’t emerged from the Republican ranks.

        • http://aol Don

          Norm, don’t take Rush and Beck too seriously. They both said they are entertainers and they don’t believe the things they say. Too bad people like Bob L. does and parrot what they say.

        • George E

          Norm,

          I’m curious since you are a registered Republican. Just for my education, can you tell me 1) what was it that originally attracted you to the Republican Party, 2) what is it that the Republican Party does that you dislike, and 3) what would you like to see the Republican Party do that they aren’t doing? Do you consider yourself to be a conservative? If so, in what way?

          Thanks.

  • http://www.personalliberty.com/news/pediatric-patients-with-chronic-pain-look-to-acupuncture-19609231/ James A Graham

    Edward Goelz

    Subject:) THE ONE (:

    How’s this for apocalyptic literature. This was written by a pastor’s
    wife in biblical prose as a commentary of current events. It is brilliant.

    And it came to pass in the Age of Insanity that the people of the land
    called America , having lost their morals, their initiative, and their
    will to defend their liberties, chose as their Supreme Leader that
    person known as “The One.”

    He emerged from the vapors with a message that had no meaning; but He hypnotized the people telling them, “I am sent to save you.” My lack
    of experience, my questionable ethics, my monstrous ego, and my
    association with evil doers are of no consequence. I shall save you
    with hope and Change. Go, therefore, and proclaim throughout the
    land that he who proceeded me is evil, that he has defiled the nation,
    and that all he has built must be destroyed. And the people rejoiced,
    for even though they knew not what “The One” would do, he had promised
    that it was good; and they believed. And “The One” said ” We live in
    the greatest country in the world. Help me change everything about it!”
    And the people said, “Hallelujah! Change is good!”

    Then He said, “We are going to tax the rich fat-cats.” And the
    people said “Sock it to them!” “And redistribute their wealth.” And
    the people said, “Show us the money!” And the he said, ”
    redistribution of wealth is good for everybody.”
    “4″
    And Joe the plumber asked, ” Are you kidding me? You’re going to
    steal my money and give it to the deadbeats??” And “The One”
    ridiculed and taunted him, and Joe’s personal records were hacked and publicized.
    One lone reporter asked, “Isn’t that Marxist policy?” And she was
    banished from the kingdom!

    Then a citizen asked, “With no foreign relations experience and
    having zero military experience or knowledge, how will you deal with
    radical terrorists?” And “The One” said, “Simple. I shall sit with
    them and talk with them and show them how nice we really are; and they
    will forget that they ever wanted to kill us all!” And the people
    said, “Hallelujah!! We are safe at last, and we can beat our weapons
    into free cars for the people!”

    Then “The One” said “I shall give 95% of you lower taxes.” And one,
    lone voice said, “But 40% of us don’t pay ANY taxes.” So “The One”
    said, “Then I shall give you some of the taxes the fat-cats pay!”
    And the people said, “Hallelujah! Show us the money!”
    Then “The One” said, “I shall tax your Capital Gains when you sell
    your homes!” And the people yawned and the slumping housing market
    collapsed. And He said. “I shall mandate employer-funded health care
    for every worker and raise the minimum wage. And I shall give every
    person unlimited health care and medicine and transportation to the
    clinics.” And the people said, “Give me some of that!”
    Then he said, “I shall penalize employers who ship jobs overseas.”
    And the people said, “Where’s my rebate check?”

    Then “The One” said, “I shall bankrupt the coal industry and
    electricity rates will skyrocket!” And the people said, “Coal is
    dirty, coal is evil, no more coal! But we don’t care for that part
    about higher electric rates.” So “The One” said, Not to worry. If
    your rebate isn’t enough to cover your expenses, we shall bail you out.
    Just sign up with the ACORN and you troubles are over!”
    Then He said, “Illegal immigrants feel scorned and slighted. Let’s
    grant them amnesty, Social Security, free education, free lunches,
    free medical care, bi-lingual signs and guaranteed housing…” And
    the people said, “Hallelujah!” and they made him king!

    And so it came to pass that employers, facing spiraling costs and
    ever-higher taxes, raised their prices and laid off workers. Others
    simply gave up and went out of business and the economy sank like unto
    a rock dropped from a cliff.
    The banking industry was destroyed. Manufacturing slowed to a
    crawl. And more of the people were without a means of support.

    Then “The One” said, “I am “the One”- The Messiah – and I’m here
    to save you! We shall just print more money so everyone will have
    enough!” But our foreign trading partners said unto Him. “Wait a
    minute. Your dollar is not worth a pile of camel dung! You will have
    to pay more… And “The One” said, “Wait a minute. That is
    unfair!!” And the world said, “Neither are these other idiotic
    programs you have embraced. Lo, you have become a Socialist state and
    a second-rate power. Now you shall play by our rules!”

    And the people cried out, “Alas, alas!! What have we done?” But yea
    verily, it was too late. The people set upon The One and spat upon
    him and stoned him, and his name was dung. And the once mighty nation
    was no more; and the once proud people were without sustenance or
    shelter or hope. And the Change “The One” had given them was as like
    unto a poison that had destroyed them and like a whirlwind that
    consumed all that they had built.

    And the people beat their chests in despair and cried out in anguish,
    “give us back our nation and our pride and our hope!!” But it was too
    late, and their homeland was no more.

    You may think this a fairy tale, but it’s not.
    It’s happening RIGHT NOW

    THIS really tells it like it is. After reading it — and before you go into the bathroom to throw-up — forward it to your friends and those you know who care about our country and what is happening to it under the rule of Commissar Obamanation

    • dfocus

      Just because you have a JOB, doesn’t mean you are not a dead beat, just because you, right now don’t have a job does MAKE you a dead beat. walk a mile in someone else’s moccasin’s and then speak you SELF -righteous persons.
      And speaking of moccasin’s it was most of your types that did what we did to the REAL first american’s

    • angel-wanna-be

      James E.Grahm_Excellant!

  • tim J

    Republicans is spelled tea party and Bush’s WMD.

    • George E

      What???????????

  • http://www.personalliberty.com/news/pediatric-patients-with-chronic-pain-look-to-acupuncture-19609231/ James A Graham

    Barack OBAMA, in his Cairo speech, said: “I know, too, that Islam has always been a part of America’s story.”

    AN AMERICAN CITIZEN’ S RESPONSE:

    Dear Mr(?) Obama:

    Were those Muslims that were in America when the Pilgrims first landed? Funny, I thought they were Native American Indians.

    Were those Muslims that celebrated the first Thanksgiving day? Sorry again, those were Pilgrims and Native American Indians.

    Can you show me one Muslim signature on the United StatesConstitution?

    Declaration of Independence?

    Bill of Rights?

    Didn’t think so.

    Did Muslims fight for this country’s freedom from England? No.

    Did Muslims fight during the Civil War to free the slaves in America? No, they did not. In fact, Muslims to this day are still the largest traffickers in human slavery. Your own half brother, a devout Muslim, still advocates slavery himself, even though Muslims of Arabic descent refer to black Muslims as “pug nosed slaves.” Says a lot of what the Muslim world really thinks of your family’s “rich Islamic heritage,” doesn’t it Mr. Obama?

    Where were Muslims during the Civil Rights era of this country? Not present.

    There are no pictures or media accounts of Muslims walking side by side with Martin Luther King, Jr. or helping to advance the cause of Civil Rights.

    Where were Muslims during this country’s Woman’s Suffrage era? Again, not present. In fact, devout Muslims demand that women are subservient to men in the Islamic culture. So much so , that often they are beaten for not wearing the ‘hajib’ or for talking to a man who is not a direct family member or their husband. Yep, the Muslims are all for women’s rights, aren’t they?

    Where were Muslims during World War II? They were aligned with Adolf Hitler. The Muslim grand mufti himself met with Adolf Hitler, reviewed the troops and accepted support from the Nazi’s in killing Jews.

    Finally, Mr. Obama, where were Muslims on Sept. 11th, 2001? If they weren’t flying planes into the World Trade Center, the Pentagon or a field in Pennsylvania killing nearly 3,000 people on our own soil, they were rejoicing in the Middle East. No one can dispute the pictures shown from all parts of the Muslim world celebrating on CNN, Fox News, MSNBC and other cable news networks that day. Strangely, the very “moderate” Muslims who’s asses you bent over backwards to kiss in Cairo, Egypt on June 4th were stone cold silent post 9-11. To many Ame ricans, their silence has meant approval for the acts of that day.

    And THAT, Mr. Obama, is the “rich he ritage” Muslims have here in America.

    Oh, I’m sorry, I forgot to mention the Barbary Pirates. They were Muslim.

    And now we can add November 5, 2009 – the slaughter of American soldiers at Fort Hood by a Muslim major who is a doctor and a psychiatrist who was supposed to be counseling soldiers returning from battle in Iraq and Afghanistan.

    That, Mr. Obama is the “Muslim heritage” in America.
    EVERY AMERICAN MUST
    READ THIS !!

    Be Sure to SEND IT
    to All . Even Print it out
    and Send by Snail Mail !!

    Obama Must be Stopped

    • JEFF

      James A Graham

      I couldn’t have said it any better. You hit the nail on the head. I read a couple of your comments and I will have to say that most Americans and you know the truth about our politicians and their policies. They actually exempt themselves from new regs because they know the new regs are not good for America. I would like to hear just one good reason why they are making themselves exempt. We should add to the Constitution to forbid that from ever happening again. Do they think that they are any better than the citizens of this country. We are the ones that built the U.S.A. while 99% of the politicians sat back and grinned. Have “We The People” lost our backbone, I sure hope not. Sure most politicians have said they won’t raise taxes. Alot of them don’t, they just make new taxes. That’s how decieving they are. When this new administration ignored the cry of the people Pres B.O. should have put this healtcare to a vote, not by politicians but by the people. He is an arrogant piece of crap. He thinks he knows what is good for this country ???? What was he before he became our leader, a junior politician. He never ran anything in his life and he is so full of you know what. Why won’t he let us see his birth certificate among other papers. If our citizens don’t do something I think that this country is doomed. We are for sure not heading in a forward direction. Only time will tell if this country survives and that is what I am afraid of, that we won’t. If we do survive, I am sure it will be a different country and not for the better but worse.

    • marypat

      Obama wasn’t fooling the muslims with his version of American history. that speech was for us in the USA, as sadly many here don’t know our American History.

  • Larry Drummond

    Getting rid of the politicians would only get us a new set of problems. Read and understand the 17th amendment (popular election of Senators). Before it passed Senators were resigning rather than submit to the will of their state’s legislature or governor. The states actually had representation. After it passed the Senators answer only to the people. Before there was a check and balance in Congress. Now there is none and whatever the ‘people’ want — they get. We need a Senate where the states csn pose the question – Where is the money coming from and then say no.

    Repeal of the 17th amendment is a good start. Congress stood in the way of an amendment until the states started calling for a constitutional convention. Rather than risk losing more than the senate, Congress quickly proposed an amendment and it passed. We can do the same thing again and reverse the trend of a Congress that does not listen.

    With the States in control of the Senate there should be less allegiance to a political party and more to the state. It may also mean that ‘we the people’ need to clean up some of the messes that exist at our local levels (meaning the state level rather than the federal level where our voices are unheard).

    • ed

      You’re so stupid that this remark doesn’t even deserve a response, but I did it anyway. SPENDING MONEY……WHAT ???

    • ed

      lARRY,I THINK I RESPONSED TO THE WRONG POSTING,IF i DID I offer my Apologie. Ed.

  • http://ordy@fedtel./net Eric g

    The tea party is madeup of racists , republicians , anti-abortionst homophobiasts ,and flat taxers , That dont believe income tax should be progresive , and they do not want to pay for their less fortunate neihbors health care . If these people are not now in the tea party where are they . In my long life I have joined with others to try to accomplish something only to findout later that there really was another agenda . The Tea party maybe just a cool way to get the republicians back in the drivers seat again . So they can hire their friends and get to spend the money again .

    • George E

      Eric,

      Ann Coulter once said “you know what the Democrats are up to because that’s what they’re accusing the Republicans of doing.” Sounds a little to me like what you’re doing in your statement.

      • Claire

        George E — Coulter’s comment could apply to all politicians. I am a registered Republican, and as far as I am concerned, she is just another RINO stirring up the garbage. People like her are doing nothing but creating dissent and people are falling for it. I also voted for Obama, and am I an Obama worshipper? No. I do not worship any politician nor do I worship any of the so-called media entertainers. I hope and pray that common sense will prevail in this crazy world.

        • Normal Guy

          Claire

          I am always interested in your posts. I don’t always agree with you but you are a very rational and considerate person. The way that you express your opinions and the cival debate approach you take are certainly the correct approach to discussion.

          I find most on this thread opinionated, uniformed, and extreme. I find you to be the opposite of that and wanted to thank you for your moderate, interesting positions.

          • Claire

            Normal Guy: Thank you for your kind words. I always try to see “both sides” and I am not always correct. I just say what I believe.

    • Barb

      The biggest racists in this country are the democrats who rather than give a person self esteem and work, they just give them a way to live in poverty with no hope and no pride and under the thunb of the very party supposedly “helping” them. You sir are the racist not me! And yes I am anti – baby murder and yes I am against homosexual marriage, you want to live that way go for it but trying to moralize it by marriage, uhuh!. Income Tax is already progressive enough idiot, and if you want to pay more taxes maybe when we take over again we can come up with a plan to tax people like you more so you will be happy too!Conservatives don’t spend money we try to live within our means, something Liberals don’t understand at all, so I won’t even try to educate you here. When we take over and we will the country will recover albeit slowly but maybe just maybe you learn!

      • angel-wanna-be

        Barb, Well Said!

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    One thing is for sure, with all this complicated new legislation, some people may need legal representation to help guide them through a maze of new regulations and guidelines.

  • BigBadJohn

    I have always been a fiscal conservative which was one on the main reasons I hated Reagan and Bush. I relate to the Tea Party concept except for one minor detail, who are you going to vote for? The GOP? – they are the ones who have bankrupted the country! I do not like the current administration but believe it would be totally ignorant to expect the party that got us so far in debt to be able to get us out of it!!!!

    • George E

      Seems to me you’ve got two choices. You can vote for Bad (Republicans who can’t always see that they’re caught up in the progressive culture and go along with programs they think the American people want) or Worse (Democrats who are determined to grow the government with your taxes and credit and their regulations so that it can control our lives and redistribute our money). There really isn’t an alternate.

      The Tea Party plays a vital role in that it can speak on behalf of independent Americans who tend to be a lot like youself on the matter of fiscal and social responsibility. They can demonstrate to the parties where mainstream America is so the parties can decide whether to adopt the Tea Party agenda and objectives. Obviously, the Republican Party has been listening to the Tea Party and is trying to align itself with it, but the Democrats, on the other hand, have not. They have been casting dispersions on the Tea Party, calling them members of the KKK, radicals, and the like in an effort to discredit them with other Americans. As for me, I’ll go with the party that is trying to align with the Tea Party.

  • edd

    You ever notice the age of the tea party folks? They are older people! Do our children go to school to learn history, or manners, speech or any thing that teaches them about how to be civilized? NO!; they go to school to be brain washed and our intertainment media reinforces that effort. Read any books that were used by our educators over a hundred years ago; the overtone in them was consequence,values, need to be honest,it was there in our english books, history books, civics books. Read any letters that were written by people with no more than a third grade education; how articulate they were and even their values were demonstrated by their speech. The political correctness is not to right any rong or to encourage any justice, its there to undermine our coulture! Civil rights is not a ratial issue, its a moral issue! Law should not be bsaed on political expedience, but on simple justice and fair play. It is written, Wo be to a nation that changes good for evil and evil for good, that puts ignorance for knowledge and knowledge for ignorance; they have rewarded evil unto their self. Thanks a lot NEA and ACLU you have come a long way baby toward destroying your children’s future. But what the hell do I know Ive only got a third grade education.

    • BigBadJohn

      Edd check your spelling before bad-mouthing the education system of today.

      • JeffH

        O mi, anudderr spelin copper speeks. Get de handcufses outs.

      • Fed Up Gal

        BigBadJohn,

        Hmmmmm….seems to me that ANY taxpaying citizen has a right to bad-mouth the pitiful, dumbed-down educational system. I’d gladly stay out of school issues, if the teachers (via the teacher unions) would stop campaigning year-round to get us to vote for their various causes.

        Edd is correct in his assessment of our public education system. In summary, if the government, liberals, or anyone else wants a portion of my income to support the schools….they better get used to hearing my opinion (good or bad) when they take my money!

        Fed Up Gal

    • Barb

      edd, I agree with everything you said except for the first line! Maybe in some areas but where we are the TEA Parties are a wonderful cross-section of ages, races, cultures, classes,and all American! And yes a lot of older people 55 or better and that I believe is because of the fear we feel for our children and grandchildren and the anger we feel towards these monsters who would try to destroy our beloved country. Our generation has witnessed so much, we’ve seen the electronic age boom out of control, went from looking at the moon from here to actually walking on it and beyond, our guys have fought in at least 5 wars or what ever they called them form Korea to Afghanistan and much, much more and we the USA have led the way for the world, and proudly! With nothing to apologize for at all! So we have a great deal of anger and disrespect and resentment towards this charlatan they call president and we will, as the older folks in this group, lead the younger ones, teach them what the schools didn’t and we will prevail!

    • George E

      Edd,

      Thanks for your thoughts. I’ve been surprised at just how articulate people in the 1800′s were (and the quality of their penmanship) when I’ve read they letters.

      There is no doubt in my mind that the NEA’s first priority (or at least one of their top priorities) is to negotiate better pay, benefits, and job security for the teachers. It doesn’t appear to me that educating our children ranks very high with them.

  • George E

    I especially enjoyed and agree with the last 3 paragraphs of this article. Although Republicans aren’t perfect in their quest for smaller government, they have at least talked about the need for smaller, more effective government that’s less intrusive in out lives. That’s a start. Now the Tea Party should push them to follow through on this vision. The Democrats on the other hand, have only one goal; larger, more intrusive and controlling federal government. Since there is no viable third party for conservatives to go to, I recommend we take control of the Republican Party, make it what we want it to be to get our candidates elected and objectives achieved. If we can’t do this, then there is no way another conservative party can win elections, but it can insure that the liberals/socialist continue winning by splitting the conservative vote.

    • BigBadJohn

      LOL yes republicans pay lip service to small government but have NEVER followed through. Republicans have been in power for most major expansions in the size of government.

      http://www.independent.org/newsroom/news_detail.asp?newsID=31

      • angel-wanna-be

        BigBadJohn, yeah and you Libs just shoved all of us closer to the edge!

        • BigBadJohn

          How’s that Angel? Obama is doing nothing more then expanding government and spending like a republican…

          I am with you 100% for change – I just think that reverting to the same party that screwed us in the first place, is the right course of action!

          • BigBadJohn

            oops – do NOT think is the right course of action!

          • angel-wanna-be

            BigbadJOhn, All politicians do it!__We the People have no other choice, than to start now and get informed about these candidates for 2010.__We’ve got to know EVERYTHING ABOUT THEM!___Same with 2012! They’ve got to know in no uncertain terms, that we the people are not gonna stand for “Split Personality Candidates”, anymore and I desribe that as, a Candidate, running for office, promiseing the world and then turning their backs on us, as if we never existed. No matter what, these guys in office and those that run are suppose to be REPRESENTING US, it’s time we hold them accountable.

          • George E

            They’re all guilty as charged. Over time, we’re all part of the problem since we think (misguidely) that the federal government can solve all of our problems. We’ve allowed, and often demanded, that our representatives pass legislation to solve problems of the day. This always grows government and reduces our liberties. Obama and the current Democratic Party leadership have just taken this problem to a whole new level. The good news is that a lot of people are now becoming aware that government spending is out of control and must be grossly reduced to sustainable levels.

      • Fed Up Gal

        BBJ,

        So, where’s that change Obama promised? How is he any different? How is he to be trusted, when he just continues with the same garbage?

        Fed Up Gal

  • HotsyTotsyBaba

    Way to go! We can’t just rely on the Party. In this election and the one in 2012 we have to pay close attention to the candidates and what they say and how they act. If 3 Republicans are running in a primary in a state, pay very close attention to them and check out their background. In order to take our country back we have to be more vigilant. Be very concerned about candidates position on jobs!

  • http://Windstream Mary

    We have thought for sometime about Obama locking down His past..There has to be a reason.Was He really born in Hawaii as He stated, or in Kenya where His Grandmother said He was born,also I saw on YouTube where Michelle was speaking and She said something about Obama’s ‘homeland Kenya’..I can’t remember exactly just how She worded it..Go to YouTube and listen to what She said..We need to stand together and take our beloved Country back. Obama and the far left are ignoring our Constitutional Rights/Freedom..

    • angel-wanna-be

      Mary, Yeah I saw that vid on Glenn Beck I believe, I think MIchelle mybell, screwed up!__But Libby news media sure as hell didn’t report on it , did they?

    • denniso

      Mary, could you please list the ‘constitutional rights’ that Obama and co are ignoring?

      • Markus

        Denniso,
        You obviously have a very boring life, or you are paid to blog on this site by some left organization. Every once in a while I go on here (Bob Livingston site) and I see your blog on EVERY ONE stirring up nonsense. I know it is nonsense because nobody could be that STUPID! Just like the left does by infiltrating the tea party movement with misspelled signs and screaming inflamatory remarks to make it look like the actual tea party members did it, then the media goes nuts over the few “plants”. Your a sad excuse for a human being, these are difficult times and we don’t need people like you and Nancy Pelosi to stir up the masses in order for the left nut jobs to be able to say, “See, the tea party is a bunch on racist, violent, right-wing ‘crazies’” as you say.
        The beauty of our disagreements is that you are……evil. And goodness, justice, truth, ALWAYS WINS AGAINST EVIL!
        I have an idea to all out there: IGNORE THIS PERSON!
        P.S. The ‘Constitutional Rights’ that you hate so much that are being violated are EVERYTHING!!! Their job is to “protect us against all enemies both foreign and domestic”. That’s it!!!!!!!!! Along with 16 smaller ones that keep the STATES RIGHTS FIRST. You are a lost soul with hatred and evil in your heart. I will pray for your soul.

        • JeffH

          Markus, so well said and your comments mirror the intent of hundreds of previous comments posted throughout this website. I don’t think that duh!nisso’s delivery would have met the standards taught by Alinsky.

          • denniso

            Markus…sad,isn’t it. I’m evil, and the people theatening the lives of Obama,Pelosi and Murray and more are loving little boy scouts concerned w/ their image of my country. You sound rather warped and unhinged my friend….

          • JeffH

            dennisso, we can all realize how “warped and unhinged” you are. Your constant raves about violence, threats and racism are just what Alinsky has warned students like you to not overuse.

            Alinsky, the master political agitator, tactical planner and social organizer didn’t mince words…Conservative interests know that Liberals are most adept at breaking their own necks with their tongues. Ridicule is man’s most potent weapon.
            A tactic that drags on too long becomes a drag.
            “Agitate + Aggravate + Educate + Organize”

            If you don’t fit into this mold, no liberal does.

      • angel-wanna-be

        denniso, like trying regulate the net__thats free speech, wether agree or not!__they wanna control content and make it fair, what they’re really saying they want to control dissent.

      • gary

        She cannot, as there is not enough room here!!!!

      • ted crawford

        Artical 1 — Sections 8&9, just for starters!

  • Lloyd

    Do we forget that we are Americans first, not Republicans or Democrats or Independents or whoever, we have allowed them to divide us making the other party the ENEMY. We need them to enforse the Constitution. Those in Washington have forgotten who they work for. We should demand them to respect their opponents, tell us what their vision is, and not demonize who they are running against. This sends the wrong message to our young. Term limits would help correct this. We live in the greatest country on earth. Vote them all out…

    • BigBadJohn

      Amen – vote them ALL out, republican and democrats alike!

      • George E

        I’d like to keep the ones who voted against the healthcare reform bill, and those that plan to vote against cap and trade and the immigration reform act that would automatically make illegals US citizens. The rest can, and should go……

    • denniso

      Lloyd, you’re right,we are all Americans. But if you look through many comments on this site as well as the articles you’ll notice that many of the rightwing don’t think Dems/liberals/progressives are or should be Americans. Almost all of the vitriol and demonizing is coming from the rightwing…Obama is not American,he’s a communist,he’s a radical,Harry Reid is scum,Pelosi is a traitor,etc…
      Have you noticed that there have been death threats against Pelosi,Obama,Patty Murray and more??
      Term limits are not in the constitution,so if you want to stick to the constitution then forget it. Also,they wouldn’t be constructive. If a senator didn’t have to face voters for reelection then she/he would have absolutely NO constraints at all. If you think they don’t pay attention now,try term limits and see what happens.
      Don’t you think there are any good reps in congress at all? If you ‘vote them all out’ you also lose the ones who are actually trying to do a good job. For instance, aren’t most of the Repubs doing what their base wants now? resist and obstruct Obama in everything? Isn’t that being responsive to the rightwing voters?
      I think they’re shooting themselves in the foot in the longer run,but that’s fine w/ me…keep up the radical obstructionism and lose in the next 2 elections.

      • Barb

        We feel that way towards the left because YOU Democrats insist on taking our country and turning it into a socialistic dictatorship! That my friend is the fundamental difference between Us and You! We want to keep our free enterprise, capitalistic, free Republic as it was and still basically is, under the Constitution, the Bill of Rights and GOD, our GOD! If what you want is a third world country under an Animal dictator move to Cuba or Russia don’t let us stop you!

        • BigBadJohn

          and the left hates the right wing because they are pushing a Nazi dictatorship. Republicans even proposed giving Bush a third term which would have been a step towards dictatorship.

          Like someone above said “we are Americans first and democrats/republicans/independents etc – second. Get over the party system, both parties are playing us against each other!

          • Dale

            BigJohn . . . . you, have obviously know NOTHING about Fascism!!
            1930′s Germany under Uncle Adolph is eerily similar to the last year with the Obaminator . . .
            NAZI means “Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei” or National SOCIALIST German workers party.

            Mussolini’s own summary of the Fascist philosophy: “Tutto nello Stato, niente al di fuori dello Stato, nulla contro lo Stato” (Everything in the State, nothing outside the State, nothing against the State)

            http://ray-dox.blogspot.com/2006/06/this-is-expanded-version-of-article.html
            MODERN LEFTISM AS RECYCLED FASCISM

          • JeffH

            Dale, I find this quote eerily to be commonplace with the liberal left; “Why are Leftists always talking about hate? Because it fills their own hearts”

          • BigBadJohn

            Dale, Mussolini also said that “Fascism is nothing more than corporatism” and the republican agenda has certainly handed the reins of government over to corporations..

          • BigBadJohn

            Dale here is fascism for you…

            “All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country.”

            – Hermann Göring, 2nd-in-command, Nazi Germany

        • gary

          Wrong Barb!! They should Move to Africa, or Planet of the Apes which ever you wish to call it. That movie reminds me of modern America or the future America.

          • JeffH

            gary, you ignorance abounds.

          • Claire

            gary — – You and the people like you are the ones that should go live on the “Planet of the Apes.”

          • Fed Up Gal

            Gary,

            You’re either a plant…..or extremely closed minded….neither is something to be proud of; fortunately your views are not in line with the majority of posters here.

            Fed Up Gal

  • VAL

    after reading this post for the very first time, I got to say that the posters lack diversity of ideas and information.
    The problem with that is that if you only hear what you want, you end up with radical ideas and behavior.
    the best thing about our times is the abundant sources of information available on any subject, the freedom to travel almost anywhere to see how other people live in other parts of the country and the world.
    May I sugest to you that the best years in America where those after the 2nd world war when the government helped people get educated and the unions kept people working for good wages and the companies in check. Most of our problems started with unmitigated defense spending and the influence of lobies on our government. Today the Economy is totally controlled by those companies specials interests and the information is managed on a need basis to have the “masses” distracted on what is really happening. Until those lobies are curtailed us the people have no voice, and are just being played.
    I certainly wish you had had this much fervor in 2000 when the election was stolen or when we were breaking a number of international laws in an illegal war. The same way that if you believe that the underpants bomber got on that airplane for anything else than a news distraction, because the President had a bad month on healthcare reform, you need to start thinking for yourselves, rather than believe the managed propaganda fed daily by the media, which by the way is not liberal or conservative, is corporate and managed to achieve certain results. Good luck to us. post whatever you want in response, but be aware that I will not read it, I’ve spent enought time on this educational post. “WHO SAID EDUCATION WAS NOT FREE?!!” lol

    • JeffH

      Bye bye!

  • J

    Whereas I am glad that the Tea Party has emerged so that the voices of us ordinary Americans can be heard loud and clear, I am apprehensive when it comes to the November elections. One thing we do not want to happen is the splitting of the Conservative vote between Tea Party Candidates and Republican Party Candidates. Remember the effects of the third party organized by Mr. Ross Perot, many of whose ideas were appealing to Conservatives like me. George Bush lost his re-election bid, and the country was saddled with the Clinton presidency for 8 years. So, let’s make our voices heard by proclaiming in concert the values we as Americans share, but let’s not dilute our vote and, in effect, fail to send any messages to the incumbents with whom we disagree and end up sending them back to Washington. May God bless our nation. J.

    • denniso

      J…surely you jest?? ‘saddled w/ 8 yrs of the Clinton Presidency’?
      8 yrs of prosperity that we can only imagine now…8 of the most peaceful yrs since the Korean war ended and before Vietnam began…
      8 yrs of policies like welfare reform,environmental protection and balanced budgets…Clinton left office w/ a multi billion $ budget surplus for the worst Prez ever to p_ss away…You’re either uninformed or a blind party loyalist if you can’t see the reality of those 8 yrs.

      • Dale

        Clinton Didn’t Leave A Surplus
        The national debt increased by $1.54tn during the 8 years of Clinton.

        Year-Total U.S. Debt — Yearly deficit

        2009 11,909,829,003,511…1,885,104,106,599
        2008 10,024,724,896,912…1,017,071,524,649
        2007 9,007,653,372,262……500,679,473,047
        2006 8,506,973,899,215……574,264,237,491
        2005 7,932,709,661,723……553,656,965,393
        2004 7,379,052,696,330……595,821,633,586
        2003 6,783,231,062,743……554,995,097,146
        2002 6,228,235,965,597……420,772,553,397
        2001 5,807,463,412,200……133,285,202,313
        2000 5,674,178,209,886…….17,907,308,271
        1999 5,656,270,901,615……130,077,892,717
        1998 5,526,193,008,897……113,046,997,500
        1997 5,413,146,011,397……188,335,072,261
        1996 5,224,810,939,135……250,828,038,426
        1995 4,973,982,900,709……281,232,990,696
        1994 4,692,749,910,013……281,261,026,873
        1993 4,411,488,883,139……346,868,227,617
        1992 4,064,620,655,521……399,317,303,824

        http://www.treasurydirect.gov/govt/reports/pd/histdebt/hist debt_histo5.htm

        As is demonstrated, Clinton was not fiscally conservative in his first two years in office. It took gridlock for both sides to work toward balanced budgets. So, don’t believe for a minute the crap that Socialist Progressives say.
        Did you forget about the Republican Congress after 1994??? They control the budget . . .

        • http://aol Don

          Thanks Dale. I didn’t know Clinton increased the debt by about 1 trillion and Bush increased it by about 5 trillion nearly doubling our debt.

          • denniso

            Dale…I didn’t mean that Clinton had an overall budget surplus for his 8yrs…but there was a yearly surplus of a couple hundred billion in one of his last yrs. Nevertheless,Clinton increased the national debt by about a trillion in 8yrs, Bush increased the debt by 5 trillion in 8yrs…who did better?? The tax and spend liberal or the ‘conservative’ Bush?

          • JeffH

            dennisso, it is now the “conservative” Bush, not the Republican Bush?
            OK?

      • ted crawford

        Clinton had no budgit surplus! The PHANTOM surplus was created by claiming the Social Security taxes payed in, while ignoring the benefits payed out! By the way the last 6 years of his administration we had a conservative congress!

  • marie

    There is a way to stop all this, according to Sheriff Mack and his book, the Sheriff’s have the power to stop this Tyranny. Yet him and only a handful will stand up to fight. So we need to push our local Sheriff’s into stand with Sheriff Mack and we need to stand with him too. Time to take our country back.
    read his bookThe County Sheriff America’s Last Hope

    • denniso

      marie…exactly what ‘tyranny’ are you speking of?? And,don’t you listen to the news? People are getting arrested for making threats on Obama and congresspersons…Sheriff Mack is a phoney looking to rise up in political office. Say what you want,but when you or he start threatening violence against specific people,you could be in jail…
      think about it.

      • American Liberal

        Denniso… Very good question… I doubt these people will give you an answer….Glenn Beck is the one who made the Tyranny claim the loudest and Last we he said” qoute”… I couldn’t give a flying Crap about political process, were an entertainment company” unquote”… In other words Beck admitts his listeners aren’t very bright…

        • American Liberal

          “typo”… Last week…Beck said…

        • EltonJ

          American Liberal, Glenn Beck is spending less and less time on politics and more on a Restoration of our beloved Country. He wants to leave the politics up to his Comrades to expose since they are the best at exposing the politics of Washington.

          Glenn Beck is a problem because he getting people to do something rather than just talk about what is happening. That’s probably why you and your pals are boycotting his advertising.

          • http://aol Don

            Elton, also glenn is laughing all the way to the bank at 30 mil per year. Rush – 100 mil. Both have said they don’t believe what they say – so why should you?

        • marvin

          American Liberal one thing for sure you fit in with the obama pelosie reid plan, just because someone has more then you don,t give you the right to take[steal]from them and give to some lazy b—–d that won,t work and has never worked was raised on welfare and think that we the people owe them a living now dont miss understand me there is a differance in a helping hand and a flat out hand out cause your to lazy to work and get news from all the news out let, untell they start the obama is god and can do no wrong in there eyes

    • JeffH

      Best to ignore and disengage from any of these Alinsky-ites! They’re just a disruption at best.

  • American Liberal

    Their really has been a Redistrabution of Wealth in America …. During the last decade all this countrys wealth has gone to the Top 2% at the expense of the Middle Class…and you can thank Republicans and so called conservatives…..you won’t see or hear this on Fox News or on Rush Limbaughs radio show which is all you people watch or listen too… You really need to listen to more views…

    • EltonJ

      I wonder if I put the power of the Law of Attraction in your hands, will you mis-use and abuse it? With your current belief system, it looks like you will consciously abuse it.

      The problem with Wealth is that PEOPLE neither want to be EDUCATED about how to ACQUIRE it or believe WEALTH is the root of all EVIL. It is this belief that Barry has played on to get elected.

      Wealth redistribution is only possible if everyone in the United States desired Wealth and is willing to EARN it. American Liberal, there is enough money in the world for every man, woman, and child to have 12.5 million dollars to exchange.

      The Billionares get wealth, not because they are evil dipsticks, but because they are charitable people who desire wealth and are willing to follow the laws to get it. They changed their lives and their thinking and beliefs. To redistribute the wealth among the poor, the poor has to be willing to change their beliefs about money, abundance, and wealth. The Law of Attraction is simply the best way to redistribute the wealth, not and never the Government.

      Get educated, go visit the Millionaire Mind website and take their seminars. Become a wealthy person, create a good or service that people will buy and market it. Solve problems, solve problems for millions of people. And love the Rich. ;)

      • denniso

        Elton..That phoney salesmanship has been around for centuries..if only the poor would love wealth and work to get it,then everybody could be rich…it fundamentally overlooks the basics of capitalism. Everyone can’t be rich,the ‘free market’ won’t allow it. As more people aquire wealth,the cost of all good goes up in response and the dollar is essentially devalued and the supposed rich can’t buy the goods any longer. That’s why capitalism has never and will never accomplish your pie in the sky dream.The more money the population makes,the higher prices go and the more people are left behind. It can’t provide real wealth to all…also,who would dig the ditches,drive the trucks,plow the land,build the houses, sell you chewing gum,if we were all rich? Your little theory also makes the ridiculous assumption that the ‘poor’ don’t work hard…not true in most cases.
        You and nearly everyone here need to really study basic economics before you make such ludricous pronouncements.

        • EltonJ

          I have studied economics. And quite frankly scarcity thinking, “There isn’t enough for All” violates Yeshua Ha-Mashiach’s proclaimation “The Earth is Full and there is enough to spare” which leads to Abundance thinking. Scarcity thinking is dangerous because it leads to coveteousness.

          The Law of Attraction actually works. If everyone changes their beliefs and lived by their changed beliefs dealing with wealth and abundance we can overcome the gap between Wealth and Poor peacefully and without forced redistribution of the wealth. Once we do that, we can actually build a Zion society here in the United States. But everyone needs to change of their own free will.

          • angel-wanna-be

            EltonJ, Your Abosolutely right, Just because you may have been born in poverty, doesn’t mean you have to stay there!___We all have the same oppertunity at birth! As it always is, some may have to work harder at it than others to attain it!

          • denniso

            Angel…really? ‘we all have the same opportunity at birth’??? So, a baby is born addicted to crack in a gang neighborhood to drug addicted parents…he grows up watching his father beat his mother and deal drugs on the street and hardly goes to school and reads no books or gets any positive support. If you really think that kid has the same opportunity as you or me or dale or JeffH or Bush,then you are clueless and hopeless and heartless.

          • JeffH

            dennisso, you really need to get off the bad drugs yourself. Life just isn’t about everything bad, and anybody that has been fortunate enough to make a living shouldn’t be held accountable for the unfortunate. Nobody ever said life would be fair for everybody. If you have a problem with that, take it up with God. You might just be surprised.

          • angel-wanna-be

            DENNISO, Hey bud, I was suppose to have been an abortion, but I lived, I took care of my sick mother for the most part, from the time I was seven, until she died at 76___Now, I can WAh WAh, WHINE WITH THE BEST of them, but is it right for me to expect everyone else to pay, because I had a lousy childhood???__That’s ridiculous!__I have compassion for those like me who’s had it tough, But I/WE can’t change their circumstances, only they and the will of God can. We can help them, by words of encouragement or money, but in reality it’s up to the indivudual and God!

      • American Liberal

        Most of the wealth on this planet is owned by the top 2%… When you hear the Becks, limbaughs , Hannitys and the authors on this site .. Tell you things like ” keep your powder dry”.. What they really mean is” you do our dirty work”… Do you honesly think they would do any physical fighting for you…. Of course they wouldn’t…. When the Hannitys, Becks, and Limbaughs & Fox news claim” The Democrats want to raise your Taxes” , what they really mean is the Democrats want to raise taxes on”US” the top 2%…. you can check on how much money the top 2% has made at your expense if you care too….any benifits to the Average American citizen always cones from the Democrats … Your working wage, your unemployment benifits,social security benifits, Medicare , work place safety…the only thing conservatives have given America are recessions and tax cuts for the Rich…. The mine disaster is 100% caused by greed… The mine was cited for safety violations mire than 2000 times since the first of the year… The mines Ceo Don Blankenship called the fines nonsense and the cost of doing business… In other words his profits outweigh the cost of safety fir they’re workers…. Is that the kind of goverment you want?… Don Blankenship is a Tea bagger member and supporter… If course his agenda isn’t really political , it’s just to use the Baggers to make money at the expense of his workers lives… And you’re worried about nonsense like Death panels?…

        • EltonJ

          I wonder American Liberal, if you are open minded. Because, you’re sitting here saying things like the U.S. will continue, we need not change.

          Personally, I’m not worried about what Glenn is saying, I’m worried about what we as a People are doing. The consequences are a little to disastrous if we do not change.

          Jerusalem was captured by the Babylonians.

          Israel was captured and carried away by the Assyrians.

          The Delian League was destroyed by Plague and then collapsed to Spartan victory.

          The Persian Empire was weak when Alexander the Great came in and swept through the region, conquering as he went.

          The Roman Republic fell because of overspending, debt, and Senators looting the treasury.

          Two Ancient American Civilizations self destructed, and both ended up destroying each other by fighting each other. Their destruction caused by Secret Combinations (one of them was even named — the Gadianton Robbers).

          India faced numerous robbers and invasions.

          The Chinese monarchy failed after World War II.

          You stand back, sitting down doing nothing while believing that the Upper 2% of the Tax Bracket will support the American Economy while our taxes skyrocket. All to redistribute the Wealth with entitlements. And you probably think this is going to carry on for another thousand years or so.

          You want to know something? If you think that, then you are blind. America is in Winter, she’s in the Winter of her life. The politicians know this, that is why they are looting the treasury. We’ve got problems, and to fix them, it’s going to take plans that aren’t even pretty. In fact one of them isn’t very nice at all. It’s downright, totally mean. But it’s the plan of last resort. If we don’t fix it ourselves, our country will be humbled.

          In the worst possible way.

      • gary

        Ok, you give that 12.5 million to everyone and I will give you 3 years to see what the result is. What do you think the result will be?? There will be a large group that has a huge amount, another group that has a large amount and a very large majority group that will have little more than a “pot to pee in”. C’mon why is that??

        • JeffH

          gary,c’mone. Your not supposed to ask those kind of questions. That’s not fair.

        • EltonJ

          The answer is clear. The people haven’t changed their beliefs. ;)

    • denniso

      The hallmark of ‘conservatives’ is that they won’t listen to any other views…so, ending slavery,getting women the vote,civil rights
      and voting rights for blacks,any sort of environmental safeguards(except for a very few Repubs), child labor laws,worker safety,minimum wage laws…all have been pushed by the hated liberals/progressives and fought tooth and nail by ‘conservatives’. Why, because they serve their corporate masters wishes for the sake of their trillions in profits often at the expense of ‘we the people’.

      • marvin

        denniso in two words bull sh-t

        • denniso

          OK, so name a cause that furthered civil rights and human development and justice and peace,or a cleaner environment or safer workplaces,that was promoted by the rightwing.

          • Palin12

            Lincoln freed the slaves, you nitwit! Ever heard of the Emancipation Proclamation? And Teddy Roosevelt helped establish the National Parks!

          • denniso

            Lincoln and Roosevelt both had to fight the rightwing to do what they did. Lincoln was killed by a rightwinger. Neither would be a Repub today and they are both villified by the current ‘conservatives’,as Bob Livingston did w/ Lincoln the other day. And, I meant a citizen movement that accomplished a public good. Lincoln and Teddy R were both progressives who were wat ahead of their times,hence the word progressive. The Repub party of 1865 was not the Repub party of today,not even close.

          • Smilee

            denniso

            Your right Lincoln & T. Roosevelt’s political beliefs aligned far closer to the democrat party today than than the republican party, they were no were near what the self professed conservatives of today profess, they also were dedicated to our constitution, the conservatives of today want to destroy it, the conservatives of today have redefined it by totally misinterpreting it. They are a bunch of radicals. Somewhere in this thread we had someone try to tell us the tea baggers were middle of the road, Only a fool would believe that, the far right radicals, Rush, Hannity, Beck and that crowd would not be so supportive of them if that was the case, no they would be blasting them around the clock if that was the case. To me this proves they are a bunch of radicals.

          • denniso

            Hey Smilie…you know I could respect the ‘tea party’ if they didn’t feel the need to wrap themselves in guns at protests and gatherings in order to intimidate others. They have every right to march and protest and complain…guns as a show of force and intimidation is childish and not democratic. Act like adults and not wannabe warriors and stop this stupid, violent rhetoric…go to the polls.

          • Palin12

            It could just as easily be said that if JFK were alive today, he would be a conservative.

      • marypat

        this is your chance say something.

    • TIME

      A nano wit,

      Ok you got me name your great news sources that we all should look into.

      Just a few will do so don’t get to carried away. We all await your brain storm.

  • Uncle B

    Canada['s "Socialist" Medical Care system works as well as our "Socialist" highways, "Socialist" National defense systems, so what's the beef? We pay higher taxes for cleaner streets for all to use, higher taxes for welfare to keep the poorer of us eating and surviving - no Auschwitz furnaces in Canada! Energy is bgovernment controlled - no wild eyed Capitalists and corporatists building their own reactors all over the place! We regulate the car selling corportists with safety regulations and standards for all cars sold in Canada - to keep things sweet in the traffic department! We still have venture Capitalists, pushing new and better ideas every day, we love them too! They create jobs build industries, but they do not run rampant over our siciety,like the American ones - Google, torrent, the movie"Who Killed The electric Car" to see what I mean - these bastards stole the best batteries in the world from American industries , American patriots and locked them away in "Patent Hell" forever! To protect big oil!The [offensive word removed]!

    • marypat

      It seem as though the Canadian population levels are greater along the border of the USA, Why is that?

      • libertytrain

        In all fairness – I was taught that it was because as one goes further up in Canada it becomes more difficult to live – kind of like Alaska – and it is not for everyone. I don’t believe it has anything to do with them wanting to be closer to us.

        • Claire

          libertytrain — I agree with you.

  • Catherine C

    You Tea Partyers are so hung up on this Obamacare, socialist, Marxist, government takeover nonsense that you either don’t know how to or simply refuse to examine the facts. Fact #1 – Health reform is not a government takeover of the nation’s healthcare system. It provides coverage for 32 million people who lack affordable healthcare today and allows adult children to remain on their parent’s insurance until age 26. Small businesses can pool together to bargain for a better rate and in some cases, allows individuals to buy insurance across state lines. Fact #2 – It’s not the budget buster you people keep raving about. It is projected to trim future spending by over $1 trillion by 2029. Bottom line, it will slow the rate of growth in health care costs and help make coverage more affordable for individuals, business and the government. Fact#4 – This bill does not provide end-of-life counseling by government “death panels” but will expand Medicare coverage to include annual preventive check-ups. Fact#5 – Insurance companies will no longer be able to deny coverage because of serious illness or pre-existing conditions.
    Might I also mention the irony that not one single republican voted for the bill that practically mirrored a plan that both President Nixon and President Reagan tried to enact. I may be wrong but I think what bothers you most is that Obama managed to achieve what other presidents – Theodore Roosevelt, Franklin D. Roosevelt, Harry Truman, Richard Nixon, Ronald Reagan, Jimmy Carter and Bill Clinton- sought unsuccessfully for nearly a century. Oh by the way, how many of you Tea Partyers return your social security checks and refuse Medicare every month?

    • JEFF

      1. Can you give me one good reason why they are exempt from this great health care package.
      2. Why should they get life time pay and benefits just for being in office for 1 term.
      3. why is it that they should get so much time off, if they punched a time clock I am sure that 50% of them would not even put in 25 hours of actual work per week.
      4. Why did they let all the CEOs of the bailed out companys keep spending millions of dollars on luxurys and parties. This country is having a financial crisis and the pres. has a custom tent made for his dignitaries so he can throw a party.
      5. Almost all the politicians are created equal, hurray for me and the heck with you. And while they are saying this they are laughing on the way to the bank.
      5. He wants to give amnesty to mostly crooks and murderers. If they want to become a citizen let them do it like everyone else did. The reason they are here illegally is because like I said, they are not the cream of the crop.

      • BigBadJohn

        I am not going to refute you line by line, suffice it to say, where ever you are getting your information it is either incorrect or lies designed to get you riled.
        1. Just like anybody who has health care, you are not forced into the new government plan – including congress.
        2. Congress does not get a full salary after one term.
        http://www.snopes.com/politics/socialsecurity/pensions.asp
        http://www.senate.gov/reference/common/faq/retirement_for_members.shtml

        If you want to know the truth do your own research.

        • Smilee

          BigBdJohn

          Jeffy is always blowing it out his a$$, I think that is how he lost his brain assuming he once had some, hang around here and you will learn that. I got yet to see him respond to anyone’s actual post he always goes off on a tangent and says something stupid that never makes any sense and when he is called out he attacks with very nasty and untrue words. He has too much time on his hands and would be well advised to do something productive some of the time but I’m not sure he knows how to.

    • marvin

      Catherine C first thing i have payed ss from 1963 from my pay check i have payed from my pay check in to medicare from 1965 so what you are saying is give back something i have worked for how about my state pension check that i worked for and help pay should i refuse it to and buy the way that 32 million has went from 42 million down and 12 to 20 million are illegals and about 10 million are legal citizen that could afford to get insurance but chose not to so less say just for the sake of making a point 12 million illegals and say 10 million legals thats 22million from your 32million is 10 million uninsured so at 900 billion dollars we don,t have but with your way of thinking if all us stuped people that have worked all are lives and payed and played by the rules would just not accept what is rightfully ours and let obama give it to you and yours [won,t work people]this country would be so much better well that an,t going to happen and we will see in nov 2010/2012 who is right

      • Smilee

        I got a crying towel for you if you want it.

    • Larry Drummond

      Catherine C – only 2 facts are obvious. Fact #1 – You have not read the Obamacare bill and Fact #2 – I have paid into Social Security and Medicare and now pay for the privilege of subscribing to Medicare with cash from my pocket.

      Once Obamacare has gutted Medicare and bankrupted the country then my Social Security will also be worthless.

      In the meantime I will continue to be taxed to support those who have not paid their ‘fair’ share and those who are here illegally.

      • Smilee

        I got a crying towel for you too if you need one.

    • JeffH

      Catherine C, it is apparent that you have bought into and are so hung up on this Obamacare, socialist, Marxist, government takeover.

      Arguments that Obamacare is no more insidious than Medicare are highly disingenuous. Medicare is government ASSISTED health care, not government CONTROLLED health care. There is a very big difference, one which we refuse to ignore.

      • Claire

        Jeff H — Good evening! I have read almost all of these posts. While I do not care for the health reform bill, I still believe all administrations sucked the life out of Medicare and Social Security. Republicans and Democrats are at fault because they couldn’t keep their thieving hands out of these programs.

        • JeffH

          I couldn’t agree more, because maximum agreement can only be 100%, which I am. It is our responsibility to cut the thieves out of the picture, completely. Thieves are the “status quo” politicians, republicans and Democrats that believe their status includes the right to have a lifeime credit membership in the Taxpayers Bank, 0% intrest and a no collection default.

      • Smilee

        Jeffy

        This bill has actually got less government control than medicare and I also understand you understand neither

    • denniso

      Good comment, thanks. Maybe one or two of the ‘tea partiers’ will think about it before they excoriate you and demean you as a communist.

      • denniso

        My comment is addressed to Catherine…

  • kate8

    What I want to know is, where do they get the stats on who comprises the tea parties? How do they know the percentages of party affiliations, income levels and such? Do they fill out questionairres?
    Surely they don’t interview them all.

    Is someone going around with one of those ID readers that scan your wallet without your knowing? Do they have a list of all the names of the attendees?

    Just can’t help wondering.

    • marvin

      kate8 the same way they get all info ever heard of polls telephone postal mail, email i have taken them you should try it

    • JeffH

      kate8, they haven’t a clue where they get the information. I think it comes from the lefts rumors and inuendos.
      They have nothing to fear but fear itself!

    • Smilee

      Katie

      One only has to know is that Rush, Hannity, beck and that whole crowd are 100% behind them there tea baggers and you then know who they are comprised of, don’t need no damm polls or anything else. Birds of a feather stick together you know.

  • cella

    Tea Party people are great. Check out sonnythomas.com He was the head of the Springboro oh tea party. He had lots of politicians coming to speak. Well he let his true colors come out. He called Mexican’s spics. Check out his web page. He talks about women being bottom suckers trash. Poor men , should not have to pay child support. He hates teachers and teacher unions. If this guy is your cup of tea, you are un- american piece of sh–. The “tea party” is now being seen at what it is. Get over it. It is here to stay. Move on. LOL Catherine, return their social security check and refuse Medicare. Joke, they complain they can’t afford it. These people are a sad bunch who have been so brainwashed the world is going to end.

    • marvin

      cella do i think name calling is ok no do i think that mexicans are spics just because there are 20 million illegals here and are having babies [at our expence] i guess they don,t use birth control fastest growing population in this country do i agree about woman being bottom feeders hell no a woman is the best thing god ever made,i say you make a baby it is your to raise not mine so get cut or pay up as for teacher when i was in school and yes i went we looked up to teachers why because thay were teacher and good people not a member of the union that is allmost impossable to fire as for the tea party like all partys you have some that are out spoken and say things that we as a whole do not agree with ,and one more point when i was in schook a 69 was a falling grade now it,s what 64 smart real smart

    • JeffH

      cella, I think you are grasping at straws, and after entering the website, I discovered nothing that would indicate racism. I also did a YouTube search and found nothing. If he said it(spic), it would surface on YouTube.

      Sonny Thomas appears to be highly opinionated and slightly “radical” and his voice in no way represents the core of the Tea Party movement. His mantra is loaded with “I support” which, to me, is a dead giveaway that his Tea Party alliance might be an opportunity to ride the Tea Party’s coat tail to further his own personal agenda.

      Comments like “I’m also promoting these issues:
      I support any peaceful effort towards making Scotland a free and independant nation of her own! – FREE SCOTLAND!
      I also support any peaceful effort towards uniting the last 6 counties of Northern Ireland into the Irish Republic! – UNITE IRELAND!”

      Otherwise, his comments are in line with the average American conservative.

      http://sonnythomas.com/index2.html

      “It is not the strength of the weapon, but the skill in which one wields it.” – Sonny Thomas

      Paid for and run solely by Sonny Thomas
      © 2003 – 2010 Sonny Thomas
      All Right Reserved, All Wrongs Avenged!
      Friday, April 9, 2010, 7:03 AM

  • http://verizon kbab777

    BHO knows no one is going to even need healthcare with his postion on US being sitting ducks for an attack. No wonder he ‘s not worried about how its paid for, who needs healthcare when they are dead?

    • Smilee

      You must be a comedian?

  • American Liberal

    True… Most of the Tea baggers are out in the open Racist, bigots and anti American ,goverment haters and Domestic Terrorist….. Sean Hannity let it slip last week that he equates the Tea Baggers with ” Timothy McVeigh ” Wanna be’s …… Those were his words …

    • marypat

      basically what you ar saying is that most of Americans are ….
      yourself included. thanks for the obnoxiuos dribble…

    • marvin

      American Liberali know you have a right to write and say stuped things but shan don,t speak for me and mcvay was a nut but all the people in the tea party unlike you don,t go around spouting unamerican bull s–t we have a right to speak and assemble same as any american citizen we have a right to disagree with the goverment for any reason we chose and if you are a citizen a right to vote and a right to read what we want,and hear whom we please and that includes hanity fox news oriley and yes palin to ,if we want abc/nbc/cds/ cnn ,,so do not lumb all tea party members it to someone like you we are not like you we care about this country

    • Mike Johnson

      First of all, “Tea Baggers” is the WRONG term. The tea party movement has its roots in the Boston tea party as a protest against taxation without representation, but I doubt that you or the other liberal air-heads would know that. After all, one would have to have at least a cursory knowledge of ACTUAL history to be aware of that fact. I don’t know where you get your “facts” about tea party participants… perhaps you should come out of your cave and meet some real American citizens. I suppose it is easy for someone like you that obviously hides in a cloak of ignorance to have such a bigoted and prejudicial attitude towards those you do not know. How pitiful….

      • eyeswideopen

        mike, but you do have representation, you might not like it, because the repubs scammed you, but you have representation. Thanks to the census being required, you have representation. lol

        • momof4

          Eyes,
          I hate to be rude and change the subject, but I looked at those links you gave that were suppose to prove Jesus was a Socialist and I didn’t see any proof that that was the case. I mean they talked about the love of money and how we are suppose to give to those in need. I just didn’t see where it says to take from one person against their will and give to another. We are suppose to give of our own will,to be a cheerful giver,well if it’s taken from you against your will, you would not be very cheerful. I am not trying to argue with you, I just don’t see it

          • JeffH

            momof4, EWO does that scatterbrained routine regularly. You got lucky ’cause normally her links don’t work. I think she hit 66.666% on these links.

          • Smilee

            Jesus was most interested in the poor, told us to take care of them never said the government could not help with that, his concern was more with the poor and not so much with the rich and haves , my guess is he would look harshly on the conservatives and tea bggers of today as they are very greedy people, and he could also see the hatred in many of their hearts.

          • denniso

            If Jesus wasn’t a socialist,he sure as hell wasn’t a caplitalist…is there anything at all in the bible describing him as making any money ever? Did he ever start a business or hire anyone? Did he ever have a job? Didn’t he say a rich man has less chance of getting into heaven than a camel through the eye of a needle? Didn’t he tell the rich to give away their money to the poor?
            If Jesus were here now,he would at least be a poor,compassionate liberal/progressive fighting for the poor and disenfranchised.

          • libertytrain

            Smilee – I believe He would be equally or more disappointed in the behavior of the left as well -

      • JeffH

        Mike J, as you can see, they just keep coming out of the walls like cockroaches.

      • Smilee

        Mike Johnson says:
        April 12, 2010 at 11:52 am

        Oh Please! Do not equate the original Boston Tea Party with the tea baggers of today, God, what a low down insult!!! They were people of honor!!

    • Norman

      Not enough brains to think without you leader telling you what to say so you name call everyone that your leader tells you is wrong. GET a brain and do not play with it use it.

    • angel-wanna-be

      AM, Go back and worship your messiah “Bo Bo”!

    • Dale

      AL . . . I heard Hanity’s reference to McV . . . it was in the context of a joke about the Lame Stream Leftist/Progressive Media.
      Only an intellectualy-challenged progressive could equate what he said to the Tea-Party.
      Have any of you progressives got an adding machine . . . . why don’t you figure out how the Bamster is going to pay off the massive debt.
      I believe the “Greece Syndrome” will hit very soon . . . . look for defaults on Pension Payments, Medicare, Medicade and Welfare.
      By the way . . . . what would you call a govt panel, telling the doctor how much he could spend on your sick grandmother? A Death Panel???

      • JeffH

        Dale, “Only an intellectualy-challenged progressive could equate what he said to the Tea-Party.”

        Exactly…they will never stop.

  • American Liberal

    “Ronald Reagan”…..” What a wonderful world it would be without Nuclear weapons”….Start treaty….?

  • American Liberal

    President Obama has killed more high ranking terrorist in Pakistan and Afghanistan in 1 year than President Bush did in 8….President Obama has also had more cooperation with Pakistan than President Bush did in 8 years….

    • libertytrain

      No he didn’t – our soldiers did -

      • marvin

        libertytrain you can not argue with american liberal he has a liberal dem mind set and obama can do no wrong and bush done all wrong but we are citizens not subject am lib is a plant from the liberal dem that is here to disrupt the blog so let him spout his left wing liberal view there is the truth ,and then what the liberals want you to belive,, i guess you tell a lie enuf times you start to belive it your self

        • Smilee

          marvin says:
          April 12, 2010 at 11:28 am

          YOU SAY: “i guess you tell a lie enuf times you start to belive it your self”

          You sound like your talking about Rush, Hannity, beck and their wannabes and the tea bagger crowd as that’s all they ever do!!

      • momof4

        Libertytrain,
        Good point!!!

    • JeffH

      “Obama learned his lesson well. I am proud to see that my father’s model for organizing is being applied successfully beyond local community organizing to affect the Democratic campaign in 2008. It is a fine tribute to Saul Alinsky as we approach his 100th birthday.” –Letter from L. DAVID ALINSKY, son of Neo-Marxist Saul Alinsky
      Obama helped fund ‘Alinsky Academy’

  • pete

    Congressman Emanuel Cleaver spit on by teabagger

    Just a nice peaceful group quietly protesting. No one was spat upon. Yeah right.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OmP4Gb2pEsY

    • JeffH

      Nice try “pete the dragon”…Why wasn’t the guy arrested for spitting by the cop walking behind and viewing the “alleged” incident?
      Because it didn’t happen. No one has stepped forward to collect the $100,000 reward set by Brietbart either.
      END OF STORY!

    • momof4

      Pete,
      I did’t see anyone get spit on. If the teaparty crown are so violent and scary, why would these congressmen even dare to walk by them? Why isn’t there more video? If you were honest you would have to say because it did’t happen.

      • Smilee

        Stick your nose in a bunch of facts and it still goes right over the top your head. You can never learn the truth mom if you insist on remaining in total denial.

        • JeffH

          There is that indescribable freshness and unconsciousness about an illiterate person that humbles and mocks the power of the noblest expressive genius.

    • Smilee

      Apparently they did not yell loud enough, they didn’t kill the bill. I took from that they were very rude and disrespectful and that seems to becoming their reputation.

  • American Liberal

    President Obama has done more for Americas vetrans in 1 year than Bush did during his whole presidency…. In fact no president has ever abused Americas military like President Bush did….

    • Airangel

      AM Lib, I’ve read your replies on here before and all you do is instigate trouble by stirring up falsehoods you heard or read about from the media…you don’t contribute to solving anything, no original ideas, no worthwhile ideas, just Bush that, Obama this, nothing contructive whatsoever. We are so divided just on this blog, how can we possibly expect dems and repubs to come together for the good of the people? I think the only option is to seriously put fresh blood into office in 2010 because the same old ideas keep circulating, going stagnant and nothing solves anything to anyones liking.

      • JeffH

        Airangel, Alinsky paved the road for these hacks. Only a few Obama supporters on this website have taken this step, but they have quickly turned on those they have attempted to befriend.

        “One of the factors that changes what you can and can’t communicate is relationships. There are sensitive areas that one does not touch until there is a strong personal relationship based on common involvements. Otherwise the other party turns off and literally does not hear….”

  • Airangel

    The Tea Party movement has just as much right to fight for their freedom as do Gay and Lesbian Gay marchers…it’s no different. People have protested this and protested that as a way to be heard when they disagree with something. There is nothing NON American about it or traitorous. There will always be a few hot heads in any group but for the most part they are just concerned Americans struggling to get by….and guess what? Many are black that have fought and worked hard for their wages and are just as sick of being taxed to death…so quit using the racist card…it simply doesn’t apply.

    • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mjnm-9XQ8Og pete

      I’ve never seen a violent crowd at a Gay & Lesbian march. If you have video of of a violent march please share.

      Also, when I see tea baggers on tv they are white middle age to senior age people. You know the ones collecting social security and medicare shouting we don’t want government run healthcare. Most likely I expect most of these people are nice people. But they get all their information from Fox, Beck, Limbaugh.

      Truth be told the Republican party blew it with Bush. Somehow he got elected twice. Yes, I voted for him the first time but not the second because I saw how bad he really was. But now the republicans are mad because they lost. So they have turned to Beck and Limbaugh and Fox to help them out. They have no ideas of what to do so they are doing the only thing they know how. Make the other guy look worse. Funny how if Bob Dole would have presented his healthcare bill instead of Harry Reid Republicans would be falling all over them selves saying how good it is. Has anybody ever looked at the Bob Dole plan from 15 years ago?

      • Airangel

        Again, you are dividing…where does that get you? I don’t care if someone calls themself a dem, independent, liberal, republican or conservative…I really don’t. I only care about what is fair and right and forcing someone to buy Big Pharma’s insurance or be fined or go to jail is WRONG no matter which side you’re on. This doesn’t help you or me but only lines the pockets of the Corporate greed. Freedom has always been about “the freedom to choose”, “free will”..forcing people against their will has never worked

        • eyeswideopen

          Airangel, you won’t go to jail. The fine is to help offset you useage of any emergency services if you don’t have private insurance. SO, if you decide not to get insurance, and end up using a hospital, the fine you paid (which will probably not cover your vist) will help to contribute to the pool collected from people who are too poor, or too hard headed and think that others should pay for their care. Hey paying a small fine for a hospital visit as many times as you may need it in one year, is a cheap deal.

      • momof4

        Pete,
        I have been to several tea parties never once have I seen any violence it simply doesn’t happen. The reason you see middle aged people at the tea parties is because they have kids and grandkids to think about.
        We simply want freedom for the next generation. Now if you want to see violence you should have been here,( Minneapolis) for the G.O.P. convention, you would have gotten an eyefull I talking people making bombs, people getting urine and feces out of porta potties throwing crap at people, not to mention the cement blocks thrown from bridges to hit cars below. So please stop the B.S. about the tea parties being violent or racist because it is just not true.

        • Smilee

          mom

          Go back an read pete’s post, he never accused you teabaggers of violence, where did you get that.

          Do not know where you got your info on the GOP convention in St. Pau either, there was hundreds of arrests almost no convictions, reasons why, no evidence but of course all those reporters where gone when this came out and only got a fraction of it got press attention. You also padded your accusation, some of that did not even happen, and you said nothing of reporters cameras getting knocked to the ground by police and reporters being arrested and then later let go, the reporters said it was to keep them from showing what really happened. Many respectable local citizens that were there said very different things than what the police told the press, there has been a lot of fallout since the convention, local press here has covered it but not seen any of it on national press. Those with the bombs were GOP Representative ron paul’s supporters and the bombs were a real joke, ron paul was not allowed to participate in the gop convention so he held his own show at target center in mpls and the streets of St. Paul and many of his supporter were also protesting that. Truth does not mean much to you does it mom.

    • BigBadJohn

      Short memory eh? Bush set up “protest zones” you were not allowed to protest within a mile of the president. If you wore a tshirt with a political message to a Bush rally, secret service escorted you out.
      How would the tea baggers respond to that treatment?

      • eyeswideopen

        bigbad, what was that women’s name who went to his ranch? Cindy, started with an S.

        • JeffH

          uhhh! Sparky Lyle…Sally Strothers….Sam Spade…Sue Collins…Willie , no, an S..Silly Nelson…I give up…WHO?

          • Smilee

            GIVE IT UP JEFFIE, YOU JUST CANNOT HACK IT WITH ADULTS HERE ON HERE, MAYBE TRY IT AGAIN AFTER YOU GROW UP

          • JeffH

            If you’ve never met the devil in the road of life, its because you’re both heading in the same direction.

  • http://verizon kbab

    check out this alerthttp://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=139481 bto’s feet need to be held to the fire.

    • JeffH

      kbab, it leads to nowhere…

      • John

        JeffH,

        Have you seen this website?

        http://www.onlinetaxrevolt.com/

        Check it out & let me know what you think. I just received it a little while ago.

        Finally a way to take part in the Tea Party movement if you can’t be there.

        • JeffH

          John, I also recieve their emails regularly.

    • eyeswideopen

      kbab, it should be Pageid…. small i not an l.

    • JeffH

      kbab, I believe this is the link you wanted.

      http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=139481

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mjnm-9XQ8Og pete

    Is Hannity calling Tim McVeigh (the domestic terrorist) that killed innocent people in Oklahoma, a Patriot?

    In a day when the US wants to pull the satellite feeds on Aljezera for anti-American propaganda.
    Is time to pull the plug on Fox, Hannity & others of their anti-American ilk?

    Has Tim McVeigh now become a hero to some? What is going on?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mjnm-9XQ8Og

    • marvin

      pete you have a pull the plug it is called turn the dial you don,t like what fox or hannity is saying,, turn on kattie couric or one of the other liberal make news not report news obama lover like abc /cbs/nbc/ cnn/ hln/msnbc or any liberal news you want you do not have i say do not have to watch fox that is up to you

      • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mjnm-9XQ8Og pete

        Did you know that studies have shown that Fox viewers are the least informed and most misinformed people in the country. I enjoy watching Fox clearly just for entertainment to see what the right wing propaganda machine is putting out there. I can understand how simple minded Fox Viewers can get soooooooooo angry when that is the source of their information. I say keep up the good work Fox. It’s great entertainment

        • Mike Johnson

          I would be curious to see the citations for those “studies”. My guess is that there are no REAL studies (as opposed to left-wing spin) and that you are as uninformed as an amoeba.

          • mikey

            Pew Survey Finds Most Knowledgeable Americans Watch ‘Daily Show’ and ‘Colbert’– and Visit Newspaper Sites

            By Editor and Publisher Staff

            Published: April 15, 2007

            (NEW YORK) A new survey of 1,502 adults released Sunday by Pew Research Center for the People & the Press found that despite the mass appeal of the Internet and cable news since a previous poll in 1989, Americans’ knowledge of national affairs has slipped a little. For example, only 69% know that Dick Cheney is vice president, while 74% could identify Dan Quayle in that post in 1989.

            Other details are equally eye-opening. Pew judged the levels of knowledgeability (correct answers) among those surveyed and found that those who scored the highest were regular watchers of Comedy Central’s The Daily Show and Colbert Report. They tied with regular readers of major newspapers in the top spot — with 54% of them getting 2 out of 3 questions correct. Watchers of the Lehrer News Hour on PBS followed just behind.

            Virtually bringing up the rear were regular watchers of Fox News. Only 1 in 3 could answer 2 out of 3 questions correctly. Fox topped only network morning show viewers.

            Told that Shia was one group of Muslims struggling in Iraq, only 32% of the total sample could name “Sunni” as the other key group.

            The percentage of those who knew their state’s governor dropped to 2 in 3. Almost half know that Rep. Nancy Pelosi is Speaker of the House and 2 in 3 know that Condi Rice is secretary of state. But just 29% can identify Scooter Libby, 21% know Robert Gates and 15% can name Sen. Harry Reid.

            But nearly 9 in 10 knew about President Bush’s troop escalation in Iraq.

            Men scored higher than women, and older Americans did better than younger, on average. Democrats and Republicans were about equally represented in the most knowledgeable group but there were more Republicans in the least aware group.

            Source: Editor & Publisher

            Posted by The Angry Independent at 3:33 PM

          • mikey

            Fox News viewers overwhelmingly misinformed about health care reform proposals.

            Last night, NBC News and the Wall Street Journal released a poll showing that “all the misinformation out there” about health care reform proposals in Congress is taking root with many Americans. For instance, 45 percent believe the false claim that legislation includes “death panels” while 55 percent believe the false claim that coverage will be extended to illegal immigrants. MSNBC’s First Read notes that self-identified viewers of Fox News are disproportionately misinformed:

            http://thinkprogress.org/2009/08/19/fox-news-viewers-misinformed/

            Here’s another way to look at the misinformation: In our poll, 72% of self-identified FOX News viewers believe the health-care plan will give coverage to illegal immigrants, 79% of them say it will lead to a government takeover, 69% think that it will use taxpayer dollars to pay for abortions, and 75% believe that it will allow the government to make decisions about when to stop providing care for the elderly. But it would be incorrect to suggest that this is ONLY coming from conservative viewers who tune in to FOX. In fact, 41% of CNN/MSNBC viewers believe the misinformation about illegal immigrants, 39% believe the government takeover stuff, 40% believe the abortion misperception, and 30% believe the stuff about pulling the plug on grandma. What’s more, a good chunk of folks who get their news from broadcast TV (NBC, ABC, CBS) believe these things, too. This is about credible messengers using the media to get some of this misinformation out there, not as much about the filter itself. These numbers should worry Democratic operatives, as well as the news media that have been covering this story.

            As ThinkProgress has pointed out, Fox News regularly distorts the truth about health care reform. Last week, Media Matters found that over a two day period opponents of health care reform outnumbered supporters by a 6-to-1 margin on Fox.

          • JeffH

            mikey, maybe you didn’t take a close look at the date of the publication you just posted.

            Pew Survey Finds Most Knowledgeable Americans Watch ‘Daily Show’ and ‘Colbert’– and Visit Newspaper Sites

            By Editor and Publisher Staff

            Published: April 15, 2007

            My my what a couple of years can do to a poll.

        • mikey

          http://www.sodahead.com/united-states/fox-viewers-among-the-most-misinformed/blog-251067/

          It would be wrong of me to call FOX viewers stupid or ignorant, they’re simply trusting a news source that’s lying to them. Still, holy lord this is depressing.

          Here’s another way to look at the misinformation: In our poll,

          72% of self-identified FOX News viewers believe the health-care plan will give coverage to illegal immigrants, 79% of them say it will lead to a government takeover, 69% think that it will use taxpayer dollars to pay for abortions, and 75% believe that it will allow the government to make decisions about when to stop providing care for the elderly. But it would be incorrect to suggest that this is ONLY coming from conservative viewers who tune in to FOX. In fact, 41% of CNN/MSNBC viewers believe the misinformation about illegal immigrants, 39% believe the government takeover stuff, 40% believe the abortion misperception, and 30% believe the stuff about pulling the plug on grandma.

          Those are some horrible numbers. Even the CNN/MSNBC stats are pathetic, but a full three quarters are convinced the health care bill pulls the plug on gam-gam. Even worse, some people evidently think this task will be performed by small Asain children.Wow.

          Studies have consistently shown Fox viewers to be among the most misinformed Americans. A 2008 Pew study ranked Fox News dead last in the number of “high knowledge” viewers, with only 19 percent of Fox viewers able to correctly identify the majority party in Congress (Democrats), the name of the U.S. Secretary of State (Condoleezza Rice), and name of British Prime Minister (Gordon Brown at the time).
          Fox viewers are particularly misinformed about the Iraq war. A 2003 study found three common misperceptions about the war held by many Americans: first, that US troops found evidence of close pre-war links between Iraq and al-Qaeda; second, that troops found weapons of mass destruction in Iraq; and third, that world public opinion favored Washington’s going to war with Iraq. Fox viewers were the most likely to believe these falsehoods:
          Eighty percent of Fox viewers were found to hold at least one misperception, compared to 23 percent of NPR/PBS consumers. All the other media fell in between.… As to the number of misconceptions held by their audiences, Fox far outscored all of its rivals. A whopping 45 percent of its viewers believed all three misperceptions, while the other commercial networks scored between 12 percent and 16 percent. Only nine percent of [print media] readers believed all three, while only four percent of the NPR/PBS audience did.
          Yet Hannity and Ziegler were convinced that media malfeasance was the only reason for Obama’s victory. Ziegler even claimed,“Bush would have won 65-35 with fair coverage in 2004.”

          True, the CNN/MSNBC numbers are bad enough. But at least they’re minorities. The Foxers are off the charts.

          I guess I say this often, but if one group of people are so intent on telling blatant lies, what can be done? I mean, if I were to allege that the Guardian has a secret plot to charge you 10 quid a day to look at my blog, and I were given TV time to trumpet this charge, and I lodged it fiercely and insistently, and the Guardian came back and said that’s not true and where’s your proof, and I said something like, I can’t reveal my proof because the ruthless agents of the Guardian will try to destroy my career, but anyway just look at the Guardian’s history, because the Guardian is a liberal/left publication and you just know from that history that they want to impose a tax on everything; and the Guardian still denied it, and I kept repeating it and repeating it, and I got other people to repeat and repeat it, eventually, a huge percentage of people inclined to be suspicious of the Guardian would believe me, even though I was talking completely out of my ass, pardon me.

          Liberals complain about Obama’s messaging. There are things about his messaging I haven’t liked, and I’ve said so. But really, how do you “message” against straight-up lies, told by people who aren’t concerned in the slightest whether their words bear any relationship to facts, only that their words lead to the other side’s political defeat? You really can’t.

          http://www.sodahead.com/united-states/fox-viewers-among-the-most-misinformed/blog-251067/

          • JeffH

            A real, highly reputable source of information…like, maybe, the Crash the Tea Party website or MSNBC?
            Is today a school holiday? pete, mikey, kesti, joey must not be in school today.

        • mikey
          • JeffH

            Last time I looked at the calendar, it was April 10, 2010, not like deja vu all over again.

        • JeffH

          pete and mikey,
          Cable News Ratings for Thursday, April 8, 2010
          Posted on 09 April 2010 by Bill Gorman

          Live + Same Day Cable News Daily Ratings for April 8, 2010

          P2+ Total Day
          FNC – 1,168,000 viewers
          CNN – 406,000 viewers
          MSNBC –425,000 viewers
          CNBC – 171,000 viewers
          HLN –366,000 viewers

          P2+ Prime Time
          FNC – 2,425,000 viewers
          CNN – 628,000 viewers
          MSNBC –1,072,000 viewers
          CNBC – 129,000 viewers
          HLN –729,000 viewers

          • JeffH

            Fox News Dominates 3Q 2009 Cable News Ratings
            Fox News has pulled off another dominant quarter, claiming the top 10 cable news programs in 3Q 2009 and growing against 3Q 2008, while CNN and MSNBC lost substantial portions of their election-boom audience.
            http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/09/30/fox-news-dominates-3q-200_n_304260.html

          • mikey

            Dear sweet JeffyH. Do you really think Fox has change anything in 2 or 4 years? I Don’t care how many viewers they have. The point is they lie and distort the truth. The cater to people like you. Simple minded boys that just can’t handle the truth. Doesn’t matter if it’s tonight or ten years ago. It’s still the same old stuff. But you know, I’m open minded. I watch Fox as well as other media outlets because I like knowing both sides of the story. Every once in a while I’ll actually agree with someone on Fox. But you are a little boy that doesn’t know how to get all the facts, you listen to one side and one side only. But that’s OK because this is America and you can do whatever you want.

          • JeffH

            little mikey, did it ever occur to you that there is a reason why FOX has such a huge, wide and diverse viewing audience? Might just be that people are getting tired of being hornswoggled by the other netwoks. I certainly can’t believe that their audience is comprized of all the dummies in the country.
            Problem is, You Can’t Handle The Truth….

          • Smilee

            JEFFY

            I GUESS YOU MET YOUR MATCH WITH MICKEY, HE SURE BROUGHT OUT THE LITTLE BOY IN YOU AND PROVED WHAT A PHONY YOU REALLY ARE. ALL THESE STATS ON FOX ARE VERY INTERESTING AND REVEALING, BUT INTELLIGENT PEOPLE DID NOT NEED THESE STATS TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THE RESULT WOULD BE, WE COULD SEE IT FOR OURSELVES JUST BY WATCHING fox. WE WOULD HAVE BET BIG MONEY THIS WOULD BE THE RESULTS OF THESE POLLS AND YOU HAVE BEEN A REAL GOOD POSTER BOY FOR FOX JEFFIE, FOR FOX IGNORANCE.

          • JeffH

            I’d insult you, but the sad truth is that you wouldn’t understand and if I tried to explain it to you, your brain might implode from information overload.

    • angel-wanna-be

      Pete, Then Pull the plug on MSNBC and CNN too__alls fair in love and war!

    • Claire

      pete—For some reason I looked at the video site you posted and I certainly thought Hannity called them McVeigh wannabes. I listened to it twice.
      I do not make it a habit to watch any of the cable news channels very much. And these news channels can put out polls that are identical to other channels and they all have different figures. The garbage they spew is unbelievable at times. I make up my own mind and try to seek sources that are not biased. And believe me, they are hard to find.

      • JeffH

        Claire, Hannity is a big supporter of the Tea Party and his comment was purley a sarcasm pointed at the liberal leftists perception and critisizm of the Tea Party as being violent Tim McVeigh wannabes. If it were meant any other way, he would have been hung by his neck and the Tea Party most certainly would have denounced him for saying it. I have heard him use that term before, in that context.

        The day after the Tea Party Express made a stop in Salt Lake City, a prominent voice of conservative talk radio was in town with a similar message.

        Sean Hannity broadcast his national talk show from KSL studios Wednesday.

        He told a small gathering before the show that the Tea Party movement is legitimate and will withstand mounting attacks from its opponents on the left.

        “We’ve got veterans, we’ve got stay-at-home moms, people who really don’t like the direction of the country. They’re speaking out and they’ve been compared to terrorists, Tim McVeigh-wannabes. They’ve been called un-American. They’ve been called every name in the book. Now, the latest attack is that these people are violent,” he said.
        So, Hannity was almost definitely using sarcasm when he referred to his audience as “McVeigh-wannabes.”

        • Smilee

          So, Hannity always uses sarcasm, that is his trade mark, does not change the content on his statement about McVeie wannabe’s, face it jeffie, that is what he said and that is hat he meant

          • JeffH

            It’s always darkest before it turns absolutely pitch black.

      • mikey

        Why would Hannity call them McVeigh wannabes? Does he feel McVeigh is now some kind of hero?

        • JeffH

          Figure it out yourself BRAIN.

          • Smilee

            TESTY TESTY,jeffie WHY NOT ANSWER HIS QUESTION, YOUR LITTLE BOY BEHAVIOR DOES NOT CUT IT ANYMORE

          • JeffH

            Chaos is a name for any order that produces confusion in your mind.

      • eyeswideopen

        Claire, I am glad you watched it. You are right, that he did say wanna bee Mc Veighs. Others are trying to give him excuses, but there is no excuse for McVeigh killing all those Americans or Hannity comparing the Tea Partiers to him. That type of comparison is not humorous and should never have been made. It proves the point that the radical right is working for Fox and is sad.

        • American Citizen

          You people need hearing aids. He was not comparing the Tea Party to McVeigh wannabes, he said that is what the left is saying about the Tea Party.

          • Smilee

            YOU ACTUALLY CAN BELIEVE WHAT YOU SAID??

          • JeffH

            A genius knows how to make himself easily understood without being obvious about it.

  • krtstl

    The Republicans and teabaggers are mad becuase the Democrats passed Romneycare. The Democrats should have passed real health care reform Single Payer. After the insurance messed up the law just past, which they are already trying to do, Congress will pass Single Payer within ten years.

  • kate8

    Tim McVeigh was just a plant who was used in a false flag attack that was set up to discredit our militia. The communists know that the militia is one of the greatest obstacles to their complete takeover, so they have been smeared and marginalized for years to turn public sentiment against them. McVeigh was in no way a “right-wing radical”.

    Wake up, people. Stop buying into the lies and distortions from the left. We can’t let them determine how we think.

    • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mjnm-9XQ8Og pete

      Maybe you are the one buying into the lies and distortions from the right? How can you be certain? Maybe you’re being fooled and they hoping to get more Republicans voted in to give even more money back to the corperate elite.

      • angel-wanna-be

        Pete, perhaps YOUR THE ONE BEING PLAYED FOR A FOOL BY YOUR LIBERAL OFFICIALS, HOW DO YOU KNOW?

        • Claire

          I think we are being played for fools by all politicians, and the media. They are all laughing their way to the bank.

          • libertytrain

            Claire I think you hit the nail on the head.

          • JeffH

            Claire, good one. It becomes more obvious each and every day.

          • Claire

            Honestly, the more I listen to the politicians AND the media–it has become a three-ring circus. Guys and gals–I am sorry, but I am to the point that I don’t even want to hear what any of them have to say anymore. The media is nothing but two-bit journalism. All these pundits are doing their level best to create chaos. I can hear it in their voices. And the politicians are acting like third graders.
            Sorry, it has been a rough night. We just got home about 30 minutes ago. And I feel like screaming. My precious Robin hurt her eye today, some kind of trauma. No blood, cuts or anything like that. Just a blow to the eye. The dogs wrestle and race around like magpies and we think somehow during the roughhousing and racing around, she took a blow to her right eye. Anyway, I took her to my vet and he said for me to take her to the Univ. of Illinois. So we took her up there, and she will no doubt lose her eye. At least this is what the vets up there are saying. Her eyeball is swollen, red, angry-looking. I could cry, but I guess there are worse things that could happen. We had to leave her, and they are taking good care of her. I will say this about those vets, I sometimes think they are better than human doctors. A dog can’t tell you where they hurt. The vets have to find the cause themselves. Anyway, with Robin it was obvious where she hurt. She is like my child. They all are.
            Sorry for the rambling but I am rather upset and wide awake. I couldn’t go to sleep if my life depended on it.

          • Normal Guy

            Claire

            I am sorry to hear about your dog. I know how close you can become to a pet. I hope that the vets are able to save her eye.

          • Claire

            Normal Guy: Thank you for your courtesy. I have already talked to the vets, and the pressure has lessened somewhat behind the eyeball, but it is still not good. So they are going to run a few more tests and call me later this morning. The tests they have doone so far have been good, heart, lungs, kidneys, liver etc. So that is a good thing. Take care and have a good day.

          • JeffH

            Claire, I’m so sorry to hear about your Pup. I, too, know the pain you can feel when your “kid’s” are hurting. The pups are resiliant and the vets are going to take good care of her, I’m sure. Best wishes and stay strong.
            JeffH

          • Fed Up Gal

            Claire,

            So very sorry to hear about your babie’s eye injury. You’re right; they are like our children and when they hurt…we hurt. It sounds like things are looking a bit better since you first took her in….so I’ll say a prayer for you and one for her speedy recovery.

            I almost missed your post. I’ll be so glad when the site is updated to allow everyone to sort by date/posters’ name, etc….so it’s easier to keep up with posters’ comments.

            Fed Up Gal

          • Claire

            JeffH-Fed Up Gal-Normal Guy– Robin is still at the Univ. of Illinois. They are monitoring the situation. They have her on pain medication and antibiotics. They are trying to save her eye. At least today they said she could see still out of it. Thank you for your kind words. She is such a special girl. She is also a therapy dog like her Mama and Grandma were. Her Mama and Grandma are gone, and they were certified therapy dogs. Robin was not certified but she goes to nursing homes and hospitals on occasion. Robin more or less inherited this attribute. She is so sweet. We drove up there tonight to see her. Except for the eye, she looks good and was very happy to see us and we were happy to see her.
            I don’t even know what is going on in the world today. I hope nothing bad. Take care.

          • libertytrain

            Claire – my, and it looks like many, good thoughts are with you and your girl. Keep us posted. We all care.

          • JeffH

            Claire, sounds like there is some good hope in your voice. Robin will be back, with her eyesight. She knows you love her and that in itself is very healing.

          • Claire

            Hi to you all and thanks for your kind thoughts. We got Robin home. She still has her eye-it is still swollen but not as big. And her cornea is not scratched. And there is 17% pressure behind the eyeball yet. I have to take her in to my vet on Monday to check the pressure. She sure must have gotten one heck of a wallop. She has 5 medications that I have to put in her eye, not all at once, different times. And she is on an antibiotic. I have to stay up until midnight since one of the medications has to be given every 6 hours. The vets at the Univ of Illinois said she can see about 50% and this is good. But there are no guarantees. We just have to be very careful with her. If she hurts it again or gets an infection, then she will probably lose it. She was so funny. She was so excited to get home. When we turned into our subdivision, she started howling and was frantic to get in the house. Geez, it is hard to keep a Shorthair quiet. The vets were awesome. The univ. of Illinois Animal Clinic does have a great reputation, they are ranked way high. I will tell you the bill was 1,444.00 and she was there 2 days. Now I know why I am still working. Seriously, the health and welfare of my dogs comes first. I have to take care of them. I wouldn’t be a very good person if I didn’t take care of them, that’s for sure.
            Geez, there are some new people on the other sites. I read some of the posts and holy moly! All of you take care.

          • Fed Up Gal in NM

            Claire,

            That is GREAT news about your baby, Robin. I’m so glad to know she’s going to be okay. Take care and we’ll keep the blog door open for you :-).

          • Claire

            FedUpGal– Thank you for your kindness! So far so good!

    • Johnny

      So it was the government that bombed that building? Much Like Cheney did in 9-11 so we could go to war in Iraq.

    • JeffH

      kate8, these “people” like the music they hear and prefer to be played like a 5 string banjo.

    • Claire

      kate8 — Who planted him?

    • JeffH

      kate8, anything is possible. I have a rough time buying into the “McVeigh’s a patsy” theory.
      If you hate getting tied down in just one version of reality, you should love the case of Timothy McVeigh.
      The convicted Oklahoma City bomber was either the patsy of white extremists, the patsy of Islamic fundamentalists, the patsy of a vast government conspiracy, a psychotic remorseless mass murderer, or some of the above, or all of the above.
      http://www.rotten.com/library/bio/crime/terrorists/timothy-mcveigh/

    • eyeswideopen

      Kate, if you think a mere 1500 organizations is going to be able protect this country, you have lost your mind.

    • Smilee

      WHAT! WHAT! ARE YOU NUTS????

  • kate8

    The missing (and most critical) part of the healthcare debate. This
    is what no one wants you to figure out.

    “If Mainstream Medicine Really Works, Why are Americans so Unhealthy?”

    http://www.naturalnews.com/

    • Airangel

      I agree with you Kate8…why don’t insurance companies offer you the choice to buy a healthcare plan for prevention, nerve damage, acupuncture, joint displacement, chiropractic, etc…most coverage offers very limited if any alternative health treatments because “true healing” does not profit Big Pharma who are the real lobbyist for this monstrosity of disease care…if people could truly be assisted and helped and were healthy by nutrition and a few vitamins a month, they wouldn’t need all this insurance…they would just need trauma or emergency medical coverage for the drunks and over medicated people who are incoherent when they drive. The USA would save billions on people actually getting healthy but where there is BIG MONEY, EVIL and GREED and CORRUPTION are right there.

    • JeffH

      kate8, keep up the good work…EDUCATE not INDOCTRINATE.

  • http://verizon kbab

    Someone is pulling my links down when I first put it there it worked because I opened it up after I posted it. AND THE ARTICLE WAS KENYAN OFFICIAL SAYS BTW WAS BORN IN KENYA. Look it up by typing in kenyan official says obama etc.

  • edd

    Big Bad John; Wow, I thought my poor spelling was a result of the school system. Obvuously your spell check is working. By the way, Ive red your comments and you’ve not presented one original thought. If you are going to debate,then debate, dont insult, that only show bad manners and ignorance.

  • http://verizon kbab

    Will try one more time to post thishttp://www.thepostemail.com/2010/04/11/kenyan-parliament-claims-obama-born-in-kenya/

    • http://verizon kbab

      Dont bother trying to open this one either it just got pulled must be bto’s internet police.

      • http://verizon kbab

        THE ABOVE TITLE SAYS IT ALL……………………….

        • libertytrain

          Some of your links work and some don’t –best you look at what you have done first and compare each link to link and see what you are doing wrong. What I have found in my own copying and pasting and I believe you will find is some self-created error.

          • JeffH

            I almost always copy straight off of my browser, then paste it and doublecheck the link after the post. Seems to work fine for me.

          • libertytrain

            Jeff – I seldom if ever had a problem with your links but others aren’t as careful as you are.

    • libertytrain

      you don’t have a space between this and http – that’s the problem with this one anyway.

  • Airangel

    Ten realizations about “mainstream medicine” (I post this because many of you Obama fans think he is against the rich and for the poor and yet this healthcare bill directly relates to EVERY AMERICAN’S MONEY going into BIG PHARMA’S WALLET)! If he really wanted to redistribute wealth and “heal” America, he would start at the level of corruption within his own house (FDA, EPA both paid for by Monsanto and Big Pharma)

    When it comes to whether mainstream medicine really works, here are ten important “reality check” realizations to keep in mind:

    #1) If mainstream medicine really worked, then drug companies wouldn’t have to commit scientific fraud to fake their clinical trials, would they?

    #2) If mainstream medicine really worked, then doctors, drugs companies and the FDA wouldn’t be afraid of competition from nutritional supplements and natural remedies, and they wouldn’t keep trying to censor or outlaw those natural remedies.

    #3) If mainstream medicine really worked, drug companies would gladly test their drugs side-by-side with nutritional remedies to see what works best. (http://www.naturalnews.com/028473_Zetia_Vitamin_B3.html)

    #4) If mainstream medicine really worked, health insurance costs would be extremely low. The only reason health insurance costs so much is because mainstream medicine doesn’t cure anybody, and patients stay sick, which costs more money to keep treating!

    #5) If mainstream medicine really worked, then all the other countries in the world would be looking at the U.S. health care system and saying, “Wow, we want THAT!”

    #6) If mainstream medicine really worked, drug companies would be out of business because virtually everybody would be healthy and therefore not need drugs on an ongoing basis.

    #7) If mainstream medicine really worked, doctors would largely put themselves out of business by teaching patients how to take care of their own health.

    #8) If mainstream medicine really worked, drug companies like Johnson & Johnson wouldn’t have to pay kickbacks (bribes) to nursing homes to entice them to push more of their drugs onto helpless senior citizens.

    #9) If mainstream medicine really worked, the treatment of teenagers with chemotherapy wouldn’t have to be enforced by court order with the threat of arrest and imprisonment of the parents (as happens in the U.S. today). (http://www.naturalnews.com/Abraham_Cherrix.html)

    #10) If mainstream medicine really worked, drug companies wouldn’t need to advertise on television to persuade people to take drugs they don’t need.

    Now, to hear mainstream medicine pushers say it, the only reason Americans are so sick and diseased right now is because — get this — not enough people are taking enough medications!

    We are becoming more and more diseased. More medicated and chemically contaminated. The fish downstream will be even more polluted with pharmaceutical runoff and the bio sludge human waste “compost” products now being put on farms will be even more heavily saturated with medication chemicals.

    Will that create health for America? Of course not. Mainstream medicine does not work. And pushing mainstream medicine onto more people will only cause more sickness, more suffering and more bankruptcies across American households.

    It will, however, accomplish one very important thing: The obscene financial enrichment of a few powerful corporations like Pfizer, Merck, Johnson & Johnson and AstraZeneca.

    And that, my friends, is the entire point of mainstream medicine: To mainline the profits for Big Pharma, sideline the legitimate health problems of the American people, and streamline the criminal soaking of the rich, the poor and the recently-insured in order to turn sickness into profit.

  • Dale

    For the Klinton surplus fantacisers . . . .

    Clinton Didn’t Leave A Surplus
    The national debt increased by $1.54tn during the 8 years of Clinton.

    Year-Total U.S. Debt — Yearly deficit

    2009 11,909,829,003,511…1,885,104,106,599
    2008 10,024,724,896,912…1,017,071,524,649
    2007 9,007,653,372,262……500,679,473,047
    2006 8,506,973,899,215……574,264,237,491
    2005 7,932,709,661,723……553,656,965,393
    2004 7,379,052,696,330……595,821,633,586
    2003 6,783,231,062,743……554,995,097,146
    2002 6,228,235,965,597……420,772,553,397
    2001 5,807,463,412,200……133,285,202,313
    2000 5,674,178,209,886…….17,907,308,271
    1999 5,656,270,901,615……130,077,892,717
    1998 5,526,193,008,897……113,046,997,500
    1997 5,413,146,011,397……188,335,072,261
    1996 5,224,810,939,135……250,828,038,426
    1995 4,973,982,900,709……281,232,990,696
    1994 4,692,749,910,013……281,261,026,873
    1993 4,411,488,883,139……346,868,227,617
    1992 4,064,620,655,521……399,317,303,824

    http://www.treasurydirect.gov/govt/reports/pd/histdebt/hist debt_histo5.htm

    As is demonstrated, Clinton was not fiscally conservative in his first two years in office. It took gridlock for both sides to work toward balanced budgets. So, don’t believe for a minute the crap that Socialist Progressives say.

    • BigBadJohn

      Agree the first two years Clinton was not fiscally conservative until congress held his feet to the fire. Which is why I contend that our government works best when the three house of government are split. Bush had all three branches and they went on a wild spending spree.

      Clinton surplus was not what most people would consider a surplus because the debt still went up due to the service on the debt. However he DID make a couple of principal payment against the debt, which made him the only president in 30 years to do so. The deficit was also going down every year.

      But look at your numbers and see what Bush did to the debt. Clinton added one trillion dollars to the debt in 8 years, Bush added 6 trillion to the debt in 8 years.

  • Rod

    IT’S time to take this country back. Lets get some SANITY back into our country These idiots in Washington are trying to destroy America.
    We need to DEMAND that OBAMA PRODUCE A VARIFIABLE CERTIFIED BIRTH CERTIFICATE along with his collage records and his travel documents,
    (PASSPORTS) from 1988 to 2008. These documents will prove he was born in Kenya and is NOT the President of the United States of America!
    Lets get rid of the criminal’s in Washington. VOTE! VOTE! VOTE!

    • nickwolf

      I’LL BET YOU $100,000,000 DOLLARS AT 10 TO 1 ODDS, THAT I CAN PROVE IN A COURT OF LAW THAT OBAMA WAS BORN IN THE U.S.

      I’VE BEEN MAKING THIS BET FOR 5 MONTHS AND NON OF YOU LYING SOB’S HAVE TAKEN THE BET….DON’T YOU LIKE MONEY?

      PUT UP OR SHUT UP! I HAVE BETTER THINGS TO DO WITH MY TIME THAN KEEP HEARING OLD TIRED LIES!

      • Rod

        Nickwolf, You don’t have the brains to have $10.00. I will tell you again, although I don’t think you have the brains to grasp it. Obama has spent and CONTINUES to spend millions to keep the Question of where he was born out of the courts. He has NEVER produced a “CERTIFIED” copy of his birth certificate! The birth certificate
        that was produced WAS NOT CERTIFIED!!!! Not even a legal document!
        He had his collage files and his Passports locked up. Like I said before, We demand to see these document’s! The American people have a right to see these documents and no matter what you lefties say, no matter how much you LIE, we will continue to go after these documents!!!!

        • BigBadJohn
          • mv

            John

            Don’t confuse them with facts, they just get violent…

        • JeffH

          Rod, as much as I would like it to be, the “cetificate of birth” is a legal document. Whether it is “legitimate” is another question, which should be the real question about Obama’s “certificate of birth”. Money and power can be used to alter any “legal” document if you have the right connections. This could very well be what was done with Obama’s “certificate of birth”.
          .
          Is it real or is it Memorex?

          • BigBadJohn

            ya like Bush’s discharge papers…..

          • JeffH

            yawns…..

          • Smilee

            jEFFIE, I DO BELIEVE IF FOX NEWS TOLD YOU —- WAS BLUE YOU’D BELIEVE IT, YOUR SO GULLIBLE

          • JeffH

            Confusion now hath made his masterpiece!

  • kate8

    Those of you who doubt the false flag events are not doing your homework.

    There is so much research that has gone on about this, much from people who are non-political. You should check out all the data before you jump to uninformed conclusions. There is so much going on to control how we think and see things. The news is what the media say it is.

    That being said, it cracks me up how lefties use “right-wing” to discredit any reports. As if their “left-wing” reports are the unvarnished truth! LOL.

    You lefties are the most mind-controlled of all. If it weren’ so sad it would be laughable.

    • BigBadJohn

      Kate do you also consider 9/11 a false flag operation?
      Look up the PNAC, pay attention to who signed this, then ask yourself how many of those thing did the Bush administration accomplish because of 9/11.

    • Smilee

      OH PLEASE!! YOU MIGHT HURT FOX’S FEELINGS WITH STATEMENTS LIKE THAT!!

  • nickwolf

    Well,Well ! Look how far the termites have crawled! Why don’t any of you debate this swill you rub all over yourselves? Are you afraid of the truth? Really, debate this stuff you believe, in public with others who know better or who have a different viewpoint. Har Haring each other and slapping each others backs is what drunk people do in bars. So you here, drunk with propaganda, drinking as much falshood as you can, go outside and vomit on the rest of us. When you debate all these Fox Spews lies and get your hats handed to you….you may sober up and re-join America and Christianity!

    “To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead” Thomas Paine


    The truth will be shown in debate or between now and the election! Since you have thrown out reason or fact, you may not hear it, but , at least I will have tried to rescue you all.
    Think about the following points:

    ON HEALTH CARE:

    CHRISTIAN SOCIAL JUSTICE IS THE FOUNDATION OF CHRISTIANITY, WITHOUT IT THERE IS NO CHRISTIAN RELIGION IT IS NOT STALINISM OR NAZISM !-PALIN AND BECK STAND REBUKKED …BY JESUS CHRIST HIMSELF. read below

    The Final Judgment matthew 25:31-46

    31 “When the Son of Man comes in his glory, and all the angels with him, then he will sit on his glorious throne. 32 Before him will be gathered all the nations, and he will separate people one from another as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats. 33 And he will place the sheep on his right, but the goats on the left. 34 Then the King will say to those on his right, ‘Come, you who are blessed by my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world. 35 For I was hungry and you gave me food, I was thirsty and you gave me drink, I was a stranger and you welcomed me, 36 I was naked and you clothed me, I was SICK and you visited me, I was in prison and you came to me.

    Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. 42 For I was hungry and you gave me no food, I was thirsty and you gave me no drink, 43 I was a stranger and you did not welcome me, naked and you did not clothe me, sick and in prison and you did not visit me.’ 44 Then they also will answer, saying, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or naked or SICK or in prison, and did not minister to you?’ 45 Then he will answer them, saying, ‘Truly, I say to you, as you did not do it to one of the least of these, you did not do it to me.’ 46 And these will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life.”
    HEALTH CARE IS A GOD GIVEN RIGHT AND A COMMAND FROM THE SAVIOR HIMSELF. TURN YOUR HEADS AND WALK YOUR OWN HEATHEN WAY….FOR MY PART
    I CARE MORE FOR MY FELLOW MAN THAN I DO FOR MY MONEY, JUST LIKE HE SAID.
    TURN OFF FOX SPEWS ! IT ENDANGERS YOUR SOULS.
    Listening to Beck puts your soul in jepardy!! 

SHUN HIM…I have!

    Think about this:

    Nuns (majority) supported Obama’s Health Reform!
    No nuns will support a tea party candidate! They can’t
    support anti Jesus lies! They know better, they pray and
    hear Gods commandments continuously.
    Catholics believe nuns more than their Bishops.
    They are unspoiled servants of Jesus.
    …..therefor no Catholic vote for Republicans this year. Anti Jesus, Anti poor= Anti Catholic.

    Evangelicals who actually read the Bible and follow the words of Christ, will go the other way too. Republicans are toast for 20 yrs if they do. The Old Testament and the New all are replete with Commands from Scripture about this subject. YOU WILL BE MADE TO HEAR, READ AND ANSWER FOR YOUR TURNING OF A BLIND EYE PURPOSEFULLY AND WITH HATE AND SCORN FOR AMERICAN VALUES AND GOD’S.
    You either believe in Jesus or you don’t . if you do you follow his commands. His demands are not that you gather wealth to yourself, because your not here long enough and you can’t take it with you. Your command is to help the least of you. Love your brother, the stranger….because there stand I.
    The debate is just starting and as usual the liars went first….now comes the reconing that the truth always brings. hate only goes so far…..then is neutered in America! So spread your tea bags and await the string cutting!

    ON TAXES:

    Spending money you don’t have….is raising taxes.
    Borrowing money to use ….. is raising taxes. It has to be paid back with interest with next yrs and the next yrs….TAXES
    REPUBLICANS SPENT LIKE FRENCH PROSTITUTES….SPENT MONEY THEY DIDN’T HAVE. BORROWED AND SPEND IS NOT THE SAME AS TAX AND SPEND…IT’S WORSE! BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO PAY IT BACK OUT OF FUTURE TAX REVENUES WITH INTEREST!!!
    REPUBLICANS GREW GOVERNMENT, SPENT OUR FUTURE, GAVE MONEY TO THE RICH WHO DON’T NEED IT AND ROBBED THE POOR, EDUCATION, FOOD SAFETY AND ANY THING ELSE THAT DIDN’T HAVE A LOBBYIST TO PAY THEM OFF!
    THEY ARE THE ONES DESTROYING THE MIDDLE CLASS IN FAVOR OF MORE MALDISTRIBUTION OF WEALTH…TO THE ALREADY SUPERRICH 2% WHO BRIBE THEM! THIS IS THE REPUBLICAN PARTY, THERE NOT ON OUR SIDE. AT LEAST I DON’T THINK THERE ARE ANY MULTI BILLIONAIRS READING THIS! AND NOW THEIR AGAINST ALL SPENDING RESTRAINTS!
    DURING A RECESSION IS NOT THE TIME FOR TOO MUCH SPENDING RESTRAINT…HISTORY HAS SHOWN THAT!
    DEMOCRATS GAVE US THE ONLY BUDGET SURPLUS THAT I CAN REMEMBER. BELIEVE ME THEY NEED REIGNING IN TOO, BUT NOT NOW….LATER….AFTER THE FULL RECOVERY.
    AFTER THEY CREATE JOBS, WHICH HAS ALWAYS FOLLOWED RECOVERY IN 3 TO 5 YRS!
    AND YOU WANT REPUBLICANS BACK……NOT A CHANCE!
    PATHETIC, LYING MORONIC T-BAGGING, IDIOTS!!!!
    BOSTON T-PARTY = NO TAXATION WITHOUT REPRESENTATION.
    WE ELECT OUR REPRESENTATIVES….SO YOUR NAME IS BULL….T.
    YOU CAN’T GET ANYTHING RIGHT.
    IT’S NO WONDER YOU ALMOST DROVE US OFF A CLIFF.
    YOU DID THIS …. ALL OF IT.
    NOW YOUR FIGHTING THE CURE !

    “Ignorance is not merely the lack of knowledge, but self-destructive turning away from truth in all areas of life. Persons develop a taste for ignorance, the predisposition to embrace erroneous beliefs based on presumption or mere authority. The ignorant person believes he knows what he actually doesn’t know. He becomes delusional. He is deranged.” – Plato

    THE REAL SCOOP ON THE NEW TEA PARTY:

    The original American Tea Party was the Boston Tea Party which objected to the taxation of the King, ” No Taxation, Without Representation ” was their motto! But, When the Whiskey Rebellion tried to copy their slogan when George Washington was President, he said ” This tax came from Virginia, from Representatives of the Union! ” IT IS THE LAW OF THE LAND NOW ”
    He promptly gathered a Militia of 1200 men, marched to Pennsyvania and put down with force the Whiskey Rebellion. George Washington was the biggest distiller of whiskey in America when he did this.
    So Beck, Pallin, Hannity and all T-Baggers…. you are rebuked by the number one patriot of America…..George Washington!….the real hero of the real Revolutionary War.
    So you are not Patriots, you do not stand for Democracy ! You are Pony Boys and Girls scared by the lobbyists, scared by Fox News their Propaganda fake news outlet and siding with Anti American, Racist, fear mongering Scum. Stop demeaning yourselves! Stop embarrassing and threatening our Democracy.
    Ask yourselves ….. What did Washington do for our Country? Then ask What has Glenn Beck, Pallin , Limpballs or Hannity ever done for America……NOTHING. Beck make 30 million a yr keeping you the sheeply in a frenzy, running in circles against your own interests. Don’t think, Don’t Debate …..Just listen to me and act on it! THATS WHAT GOT US IN THIS MESS IN THE FIRST PLACE!
    He does not tell you what he would cut. He does not tell you what he would have done to get you out of the your recession (not his, he’s cleaning up on your hard times), or to stop it from sliding into a Great Depression !! Not a word. And what Palin has said is dead wrong, refuted by every economics expert in the World and Ronal Regan and Richard Nixon ….they are provably wrong….period ! All the other Countries did Stimulus spending to get out of this recession….as we have done for the last 7 recessions!
    Pathetic, Anti-American, Anti-Jesus, lying morons….who could never defend their positions in a debate…thats why the never do! ASK BECK OR PALIN WHAT FORM OF GOVERNMENT THEY WOULD ESTABLISH, SINCE THEY HAVE ABANDONED DEMOCRACY! MAJORITY RULES! REASONABLE DEBATE IS THE AMERICAN STANDARD. DON’T TREAD ON ME IS MEANT FOR THE PEOPLE WHO WISH TO OVER THROW OUR DEMOCRACY.
    DON’T LET THAT BE YOU. ELECT MORONS IF YOU WILL …LEAD US OVER A CLIFF LIKE THE LAST 8 YRS IF YOU WILL, BUT DEBATE IT FIRST, IF YOU CARE AT ALL ABOUT YOUR OWN FAMILY’S AND FUTURES…YOU ARE BEING DUPPED AND FAR TO EASILY! FOX NEWS JUST WANTS YOU TO VOTE REPUBLICAN…THEN THE REPUBLICANS WILL FORGET YOU FOR THE SUPER RICH….AGAIN….LIKE THE LAST 50 YRS!!

    COME ON, I MISS THE CONSERVATIVE INTELLECTUALS WHO USED TO DEBATE SOLID POINTS…WE WERE BETTER FOR THEM!

    THIS DROOL YOU PEOPLE SPIT OUT, IS NOT DEFENSABLE, THAT’S WHY YOU DON’T DEBATE IT. IT BECOME JUST MOB SLANG, TRYING TO JUSTIFY FALSE STATEMENTS. DEBATE AND THE TRUTH WILL COME OUT.

    BY THE WAY……THE RECESSION IS OVER …. I GUESS OBAMA’S ECONOMIC POLICY WORKED!!! YOU CAN’T DENY THE OUTCOME.

    ALL THE COUNTRIES IN THE WORLD SPENT STIMULUS MONEY TO JUMP START THEIR ECONOMIES, IT’S CALLED KENSIAN ECONOMICS, EVEN NIXON AND REAGAN UNDERSTOOD THIS. IT IS A PROVEN FACT.

    NOW COME THE JOBS, BUT IT WILL TAKE TIME,LIKE IT DID FOR THE LAST 7 RECESSIONS! THREE TO FIVE YRS IS THE NORM!

    ON PALIN:

    Questions for Palin:

    HOW DID WE GET OUT OF THE LAST 7 RECESSIONS?
    WHY DID NIXON SAY “WERE ALL KENSIAN’S NOW!

    ANSWER: MONETARY EXPANSION BY THE FED BY GOVT SPENDING! BECAUSE GOVT IS THE ONLY ONE WITH MONEY TO JUMP START THE DEPRESSED ECONOMY. ALL THE OTHER INDUSTRIALIZED NATIONS DID THE SAME THING…SUCCESSFULLY!

    LISTEN TO PALIN ECONOMICS AND THE UNEMPLOYMENT GOES UP TO
    24% AND WE GO IN TO ANOTHER GREAT DEPRESSION. THESE ARE HISTORICAL FACTS….NO AMOUNT OF MORONIC PALIN OR TEA BAGGERS WILL CHANGE THE FACTS. ….REBUKE THEM OR SUFFER THE CONSEQUENCES OF THE LIES!

    PALIN LIE #2 “Obama need a Teleprompter”

    PRESIDENT OBAMA DEBATED ALL THE REPUBLICAN SENATORS AT ONE TIME
    141 TO 1 ….AND WON EVERY POINT!! NO TELEPROMPTER! FOX NEWS TOOK IT OFF THE AIR BECAUSE REPUBLICANS LOOKED SO BAD. FOX SUPRESSED THE NEWS SO THAT IT’S BASE WOULD NOT SEE THE TRUTH! PLEASE RUN
    AGAINST HIM ….PLEASE! YOU WOULD NEED MORE THAN FOX TALKING POINTS AND MURDOCK LIES TO HELP YOU…..YOU WOULD BE CREAMED!

    REPUBLICAN SENATOR STATED “WE HAVE A HEALTH CARE PLAN THAT WOULD DO ALL THAT AND COST NOTHING”
    OBAMA: IF YOU HAD THAT, WHY WOULDN’T I DO IT? THE TROUBLE IS I CAN’T FIND ONE INDEPENDENT ECONOMIST TO SAY IT WILL WORK”

    ME: IF YOU HAD SUCH A BILL, WHY DIDN’T YOU PASS IT FOR THE LAST 8 YRS WHILE THE PROBLEM WAS GETTING WORSE AND REPUBLICANS WERE IN POWER…..YOUR BLATENT LIE IS EXPOSED AND REBUKKED!

    YOU KNEW OF THE PROBLEM AND DID NOTHING WHILE INSURANCE COSTS FOR AMERICAN QUADRUPLED, DRIVING MANY MIDDLE CLASS FAMILIES INTO BANKRUPTSY.

    I COULD GO ON AND ON…BUT THE FACT IS YOU ARE PRAYING FOR YOUR OWN DEMISE. PRAYING FOR THE SAME PARTY TO GET BACK AND FINISH THE JOB OF KILLING OFF THE MIDDLE CLASS AND ESTABLISHING A FEUDAL EMPIRE OF THE UNITED STATES…..THINK CAREFULLY BEFORE YOU KILL YOURSELVES AND YOUR CHILDRENS FUTURES. DEBATE CAN ONLY HELP YOU MAKE A DECISION. I’M NOT TELLING YOU THAT DEMOCRATS DON’T NEET REINING IN, I’M JUST SAYING THAT THINGS ARE GOING RIGHT, EDUCATION, HEALTH CARE , REGULATIONS FOR BANKS,CREDIT CARD CONSUMER RIGHTS, A NEW ENERGY POLICY…ARE ALL GOOD THINGS.THEY WILL HELP OUR FAMILIES.
    YES, THEY NEED DEBATE, YES THEY WILL HAVE PITFALLS AND WILL NEED ATTENTION, BUT WITHOUT ANYBODY DEBATING INTELLECTUALLY WE DON’T STAND A CHANCE AGAINST THE RICH LOBBYISTS THAT ARE NOW LEADING US AROUND BY YOUR PITARDS!
    LOOK AROUND TO SEE WHO’S REALLY BEEN HITTING YOU IN THE HEAD….IT STARTED WAY BEFOR OBAMA HIT THE SCENE.
    DON’T LET HATRED RULE YOUR FIGHTING TECHNIQUE. FIGHT FOR YOUR FAMILYS FUTURE WITH STEEL COURAGE AND DEBATE…LET THE TRUTH COME OUT….FOR ALL OUR SAKES!

    • JeffH

      nickwolf, don’t you feel much better now that you followed your therapists advice? Venting is good for the soul. Scream it out! Let it go. I hope you get well soon…

      • Smilee

        JEFFIE, BOY DID YOU EVER MISS HIS POINT, HE DON’T NEED A THERAPIST, BUT YOU SURE DO, HE TELLS YOU THE TRUTH AND YOU RIDICULE HIM, SHAME ON YOU, GO TO CONFESSION NOW!! YOUR PAST DUE!!

        • JeffH

          Your comments may be not only meaningless but absurd.

          • Fed Up Gal in NM

            JeffH,

            Yeah…..that’s what happens when they keep passing that peyote around. For some reason Smile enjoys comparing you to a 2 yr old; she doesn’t even realize she’s like a tick on a dog….always looking to feed off someone else.

            As for folks that put on their on fake Christian cloak, i.e., Nickwolf…I just love how they profess to have such a connection with God and profess to have such Christian clarity…they feel they are God’s mouthpiece…then they go around referring to Limbaugh as “Limpballs”….what a great Christian mentor! These fakes (and their followers) can quote whatever verse they choose, but it won’t change the fact that they hold no higher place with God than those they spew their venom toward.

          • JeffH

            Fed Up Gal in NM, you got that right. Just like Pelosi, Reid and Biden and , who would dare forget, the messiah, just let them display their wares through their huge pie holes for everone to see.

  • ONTIME

    This HC hoax was the scheme that the Clinton’s couldn’t pull off and it has taken every dirty trick in the book to foist this on the public who has not yet began to buy it…this is why the Deemers are running about the country in a panic trying like hell to sell this unsubstainable garbage they wrought in the back rooms of the congress. They know that if no one is going to buy this laughable crap that it is going to go unfunded and that they, the Dem Deemers, are going to suffer a political defeat like no other in the history of this nation.

    So in order to compensate these charlatans of political deviance are going to sabotage the election and on this I would bet a good lunch. They are in the process of trying to load the ballot box with all kinds of political tricks and help from their tax funded friends like former ACORN and their friends in unions like the SEIU. There will be intimidation at the box by groups like the black panthers and again union thugs sympathetic to this party and you can bet on this. Casting your vote may be a right but you may as well plan on fighting to get your vote counted and stop the frauds from canceling out your ballot.

    • nickwolf

      HEALTH CARE REFORM PASSED WITH A 60/40 MAJORITY IN THE SENATE, JUST LIKE ALL LEGISLATION. IT PASSED THE CONGRESS WITH A MAJORITY, JUST LIKE ALL OTHER BILLS.

      THE RECONCILLIATION WAS ONLY ON POINTS IN THE BILL WHICH NEEDED FIXING….NOT THE BILL ITSELF…THAT WAS ALREADY THE LAW OF THE LAND!

      AND RECONCILLIATION IS WHAT GAVE THE SUPER RICH A 3% TAX BREAK FOR THE LAST 8 YRS, COSTING US 1.2 TRILLION DOLLARS IN DEFICITS….SINCE IT, UNLIKE THE HEALCARE REFORM BILL , WAS NOT PAID FOR!

      STOP DRINKING POISON KOOLAID, STOP CASTRATING YOURSELF WITH LIES! THERE WAS NO COMET TO TAKE THEM AWAY….THEY ARE JUST DEAD, AND IN HELL FOR COMMITING SUICIDE….LIKE YOU ARE NOW!

      STOP PUKING OUT THIS DEBUNKED LIE!

      • JeffH

        Health Care Law
        Support for Repeal of Health Care Plan Up To 58%.
        Monday, April 12, 2010 Email to a Friend ShareThis.Advertisement
        Three weeks after Congress passed its new national health care plan, support for repeal of the measure has risen four points to 58%. That includes 50% of U.S. voters who strongly favor repeal.

        The latest Rasmussen Reports telephone survey of likely voters nationwide finds 38% still oppose repeal, including 32% who strongly oppose it.

        Seems the public isn’t in harmony with Congress or the president on this issue, and haven’t been for quite some time now.

        • Smilee

          SILLY BOY JEFFIE, HEALTH CARE REFORM WAS PASSED BY REAL VOTES NOT BY POLLS TO, YOU KNOW LIKE THAT IS HOW OBAMA BECAME PRESIDENT TOO, YOU YAK ALOT ABOUT POLLS BUT THEY LIKE YOUR WORDS ARE MAOSTLY MEANINGLESS

          • libertytrain

            Democratic Congressman Shuler of NC is in trouble with a small minority of his constituents because he actually voted the will of his constituents instead of what Pelosi wanted him to do. The majority of his constituents were against the health care bill as it was offered. It was impressive to me that a Congressman did what the people he represents actually wanted. How refreshing is that? His vote was one of the few “real Votes” —-

          • JeffH

            I would consider all of the legislation which I have supported meaningless if I were to sit idly by, silent, during a period which may go down in history as an era when we permitted the curtailment of our liberties.

      • American Citizen

        NickWolf, deficits happen because Congress spends more than it takes in.

        • Smilee

          NAW REALLY??? TAX CUTS FOR THE RICH AND HAVING TO BORROW MONEY TO PAY FOR IT, THAT IS AKIN TO FLUSHING A TRILLION POINT 2 DOLLARS DOWN THE TOILET, AND ALSO PUT A TRILLION FOR THE WAR ON THE CREDIT CARD, FIRST WAR WE HAVE NOT RAISED TAXES FOR, BORROWED MONEY FOR GOOD REASON IS ONE THINK BUT TO GIVE YOUR RICH FRIENDS A BIG TAX BREAK ON THE CREDIT CARD IS QUITE ANOTHER. THAT IS WHAT IS IMPORTANT WHAT YOU BORROW FOR, SOMETIMES IT IS NECESSARY THE BUSH TYPES WERE EXTREMELY RECKLESS AND CONSERVATIVES STILL VOTED FOR THE IDIOT, PROOF OF NO INTELLIGENCE!!

  • Rod

    nickwolf, You are a classic IDIOT!

    • Smilee

      JUST CAN’T HANDLE THE TRUTH CAN YOU ROD, SO JUST CALL HIM AN IDIOT, NOT MUCH INTELLIGENCE THERE IS THERE!!

  • American Liberal

    Correct…Fox news wants their viewers to remain ignorant…and they are..same with this site, they choose words that insite ignorant people…. Just what do you think Hannity meant when he called the “Tea Baggers” Timothy McVeigh wanna be’s…. So what did he mean?.. This should be funny..

    • JeffH

      Alinsky, the master political agitator, tactical planner and social organizer didn’t mince words…and apparently neither do you.
      You’ll need to increase your learning curve drastically to wear your mentor’s sandals.
      “If your organization(liberal)is too tiny even for noise, stink up the place.” Say anything anytime!
      “A tactic that drags on too long becomes a drag.” The liberal mantra of Bush/Cheney, 8 years, you Republicans
      “If you push a negative hard and deep enough it will break through into its counterside.” Not to the well informed!

      • eyeswideopen

        and Koch, the family who owns America, is hoodwinking all of you radicals. Hasn’t it dawn on you that when one private company owns over 60 conservative think tanks, that you are getting a biased viewpoint and don’t you even notice that it is the same talking point from all of your representatives??? Laughing out loud.

        • JeffH

          laughing out louder than loud!

        • American Citizen

          Give us credit for having reached the age of the use of reason and having some common sense. We can hear and see what is happening, we don’t need the media to tell us.

    • angel-wanna-be

      AM LIB, R U rehearsing for your first gig on LAUGH IN?

    • JeffH

      The day after the Tea Party Express made a stop in Salt Lake City, a prominent voice of conservative talk radio was in town with a similar message.

      Sean Hannity broadcast his national talk show from Salt Lake City, KSL studios Wednesday.

      He told a small gathering before the show that the Tea Party movement is legitimate and will withstand mounting attacks from its opponents on the left.

      “We’ve got veterans, we’ve got stay-at-home moms, people who really don’t like the direction of the country. They’re speaking out and they’ve been compared to terrorists, Tim McVeigh-wannabes. They’ve been called un-American. They’ve been called every name in the book. Now, the latest attack is that these people are violent,” he said.
      So, Hannity was almost definitely using sarcasm when he referred to his audience as “McVeigh-wannabes.”

      I think it is pretty obvious and was just as obvious to those in attendance what Hannity was saying.

      • Claire

        Jeff H — Even though I can’t stand Hannity, it may have been sarcasm but it sure sounded weird.

        • JeffH

          Claire, if I haven’t listened to and watched Hannity, I would have come to the same conclusion. Bob Beckel, a stout Democratic supporter and a FOX contriutor is often on Hannity’s show. He can’t stand Hannity’s pounding of this administration and the Democrats. He has said on more than one occassion that Hannity does and often critisize Republicans and no matter what people might think of him, Hannity is a great family man, a man of high morals and holds himself to those standards. He has also stated that other than their political differences, they are good friends.

          • Smilee

            TRUTH IS JEFFIE, HANNITY IS A “BAD AMERICAN”

          • JeffH

            This nation will remain the land of the free only so long as it is the home of the brave…”never let your heart be troubled”-Sean Hannity April 14, 2010

        • American Citizen

          Claire, he was saying what the left is saying about the Tea Party. Those are not his thoughts.

  • chuck b

    amer lib

    is school out today or are you still on spring break.

  • Average Joe

    The Tea Party took root early in 2009…on this point Bob, I must disagree.

    A little bit of research on your part would have shown you the …the Tea Party idea originated in 2007, it started on December 16 2007 with a money bomb for Presidential hopeful Dr. Ron Paul…December 16 was decided on because it was the anniversary of the Boston Tea Party which took place December 16, 1773. On that day in 2007 ordinary people across the nation sent in private donations (no corporate sponsors…only individuals) to Dr. Paul’s campaign and raised over $12,000,000 (that’s 12 million dollars) in one day…that was the official kickoff of the Tea Party Movement…
    When the “Tea Party” began, it was a group of people who believed in freedom and liberty….who believed in a Constitutional Government.
    99% of the Tea Party were supporters of Ron Paul and his vision of the nation as well as the founding fathers vision. Over the last year, the tea party movment has been infiltrated by the lamestream media (fox news, Glen Beck Etc.) of whom one year earlier were lambasting Ron Paul and his followers as a fringe lunatics. The movement is also being infiltrated by polititians (Palin etc.) who actually hold none of the values of either Ron Paul or the founding fathers…..All they are doing, is attempting to water down the movement
    , which they are accomplising rather well. THAT….is what is wrong with the Tea Party.

    • Average Joe

      Personally I do not trust ANY of the MSM (AKA Lamestream) because they all change politics like the weather changes. Look at who owns the MSM….people like Rupert Murddock, G.E. Turner, Viacom, Clear Chanel, etc….these people and corporations who own these outlets have their own agenda’s (they are also beholden to th powers that be for their licensings and ability to do business).
      The Glenn Beck example above was only one side, they all do it though. Leading up to the elections, Fox News/ Glenn Beck lambasted Ron Paul and his followers…Now the election is over….suddenly Ron Paul is a regular on their shows and is being shown to be correct on all of his predictions on the direction of this nation and the economy. Now, They are in “tune” with the tea party movement….and instead of the original causes that the tea party was trying to accomplish…..there are 50,000 causes and groups (each supporting their own agenda’s). All the original Tea Party Movement wanted was:
      1. Constitutional Government
      2. End the Federal Reserve and have Real Money (gold and silver)
      3. End the Income Tax (and with it the IRS)
      4. Shrink the Federal Government
      5. Return sovereignty to the States and to the PEOPLE
      6. Remove us from foreign entanglements (U.N., WTO,NATO, Foreign Wars, undeclared wars….etc…)
      In other words…we wanted to “Constrain” The Federal Government and get them out of our personal lives…….That is not their job….I for one do not need a baby sitter from cradle to grave…….

      • Troy

        OMG STOP CALLING IT MSM. What a bonehead. IT’s MSNBC

        MSM Methylsulfonylmethane (MSM), is an organosulfur compound with the formula (CH3)2SO2. It is also known by several other names: DMSO2, MSM, methylsulfonylmethane, methyl sulfone, and dimethyl sulfone. [1] This colourless solid features the sulfonyl functional group and is considered relatively inert chemically. It occurs naturally in some primitive plants and is present in small amounts in many foods and beverages and it is marketed as a dietary supplement, although its benefits are disputed.

        If you’re to complain about it at least get the name right.

        • Average Joe

          Troy, MSM stands for MainStream Media (AKA: Lamestream Media)….MSNBC, NBC, FOX, ABC, CBS, TBS, Etc. Are you new to the net?…If you are going to complain…at least know what you are complaining about…..

          • JeffH

            Average Joe, careful. He might be one of the liberal PHD’s with the high IQ that criticizes the ignorant uneducated conservatives.
            If I’ve got it all wrong, sorry about that!

  • American Liberal

    Sarah Palin has the IQ of a ” Dust Mite”….which makes her perfect for the ” Tea Baggers…… The economy is recovering now thanks to the steps President Obama took…. I know you rightwingers will do everything you can to destroy the recovery…..destroying Americas economy is what you always do best…. Dow now over 11,000 … Consumer spending up.. New home starts up… look for the rightwing to get Loud and violent… They can’t allow the economy to improve..ohhh, I’m sure you’ll claim the economist reports on the improving economy is a liberal lie… I’m sure you’ll come up with a bible verse to condone your hate for America and our President..

    • American Citizen

      As i heard today, you cannot say the economy is recovering until the jobs situation is corrected. Inflation is already setting in. What used to cost $55 at the grocery store (total) now costs $73.

    • Dale

      Obama is playing Community Organizer at a global level, without understanding that at the global level, organizing is done along national lines. Like Carter before him, he is pathetically eager to sell out America to some global community that exists only as a progressive myth. And like Carter before him, he has already become a global failure.

    • JeffH

      Absence of key U.S. allies at summit amplifies doubts about Obama’s foreign policy
      By Jon Ward
      The Daily Caller
      4/12/10

      President Obama is holding one of the biggest global summits ever on U.S. soil starting Monday, but for all the hoopla, the event will be missing America’s strongest allies.

      As remarkable as it is, the fact that neither British Prime Minister Gordon Brown nor Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu are attending President Obama’s nuclear security summit in Washington Monday and Tuesday is not altogether surprising.

      Relations with both countries — Israel in particular — have grown strained under Obama. Combined with Afghan President Hamid Karzai’s recent defiance of the administration, questions are growing about the president’s ability to maintain important relationships.

      The president’s critics, many of them from the Bush administration, say the summit absences — heads of state from Australia and Saudia Arabia also are not attending — are the most glaring examples of a floundering foreign policy that treats rivals and enemies better than friends.

      “He seems to want to engage rivals, even enemies, more than spend time with friends and allies,” said David Kramer, a top State Department official in the Bush administration.

      Friend or Foe: Does the Obama administration know the difference?

    • mikey

      Some of them are just a little slow. Remember, the Fundamentals of the economy are strong. How many times did Bush and McCain say that. Even as it was crashing down around them. In their eyes it didn’t go bad until Obama took office. Then they admitted it was bad and asked the day why it wasn’t fixed. So with that in mind, it won’t be until the Republican president is in office that it will be all better. Now matter how much better it might get Obama will never receive credit for it.
      This bunch on here is a very closed minded group of people. If these are the kind of people that are in the tea bagger party I say god help us. Because some of these folks on this sight are not very nice. They want their freedom, but they also want to limits others, such as gay people and legal imagrants.

      • JeffH

        mikey, judging by your comments, you are a real piece of work. Gays and legals? Egad, where does your mind roam when it’s out of your head?

        • ’53 Korean Vet

          Jeff H–perhaps Mikey, with his reply, hit the wrong keys, & meant to say “Gays & legal maggots”– if we adopt his spelling habits!

          • JeffH

            mikey isn’t that smart!

        • Smilee

          JEFFIE, HE IS A REAL PIECE OF WORK THAT IS WHY HE REALLY PUTS YOU TO SHAME, HE IS VERY INTELLIGENT BUT WE KNOW WE CAN NOT EXPECT YOU TO UNDERSTAND THAT CAN WE, IT IS JUST TO DEEP FOR YOU.

          • JeffH

            If you ever fall off the Sears Tower, just go real limp, because maybe you’ll look like a dummy and people will try to catch you because, hey, free dummy.

          • Average Joe

            Smilee says:
            April 14, 2010 at 10:55 pm

            Interesting talk on intelligence. Knowing when to capitalize would be a nice start. Maybe a little proper punctuation or proper spelling. What you are doing is called: “YELLING” and it isn’t considered polite.
            Please refrain in the future.
            BTW, if you come to a battle of intelligence…..in the future, please come armed. Ranting and yelling is not intelligent, it is however, childish.

  • kate8

    nickwolf, there is a vast difference between charity from the heart and government confiscation. The scripture is very clear on theft: THOU SHALT NOT STEAL. Doesn’t give an exception for stealing to give to someone in need. Theft is theft.

    I’m really sick of you libs who try to twist the words of Christ to justify your tyranny. The commies have, sadly, infiltrated Christianity, and those would be the goats spoken of in Revelation.
    The tares. The ones He never knew. Those who used His words in deceit, and knew Him not.

    BTW, the Vatican is controlled by the House of Rothschild. It has also been infiltrated with the intent to destroy. Why do you suppose pedophiles were able to get into the priesthood?

    Chrisianity has been drastically altered since he days of Constantine.
    It bears little resemblance to the group who followed Yeshua. Who do you suppose Revelation speaks of as the Harlot and her daughters?

    • Smilee

      CHRIST NEVER SAID TAXES WAS STEALING, HE DID SAY GIVE ONTO CEASER WHAT IS CEASER’S, IN OTHER WORDS PAY YOUR TAXES, HE DID NOT SAY YOU COULD TELL CEASER HOW TO SPEND IT EITHER, HE SAID IT WAS CEASERS. CHRIST MADE IT CLEAR THAT AUTHORITY WAS TO BE RESPECTED, IT SEEMS TO ME IT S YOU WHO IS TWISTING CHRIST’S WORDS AND MEANINGS AND SHOW NO RESPECT FOR AUTHORITY, WHICH GOVERNMENT IS. WE ARE FORTUNATE WE HAVE A GOVERNMENT THAT IS REPRESENTATIVE OF THE PEOPLE AND NOT ONE WHERE WE WOULD HAVE NO REPRESENTATION IN.

      • libertytrain

        What country are you referring to? Certainly not this one.

        • Fed Up Gal in NM

          LT,

          Cut Smilee some slack. She can’t see anything for all that peyote smoke in her eyes and….she’s become so used to being a sponge, she’s having trouble swimming out of her aligator infested pit.

          • libertytrain

            Hey Fed UP – hope all is well and good with you!

  • American Liberal

    Interesting … Scott Brown want to distance himself from the Tea Baggers….. Can’t say as I blame him…

  • Rob in Arizona

    Lies and hypocracy are implict to the progressive movement (since their goals are identical, progressive is just a nicer way to say communist), and to call them on it does about as much good as trying to shame a skunk by telling him that he smells bad.

    The goal is to enact laws and policies that will cripple the economy, put as many people out of work as possible and create envy, hate and division among our people in order to prove that Capitalism doesn’t work. Never mind that we have had a Capitalist economy since before the founding, and as a result we’ve been the most prosperous and technologically advanced nation in the history of the planet. Even those who are called poor in this nation are middle class compared to the poor elsewhere in the world.

    Once the economy is crashed, and unemployment reaches depression era levels and the misery index is through the roof, the many victims of outcome based education (another progressive idea that has achieved success) in this country will be sufficiently “dumbed down” and vulnerable to believe that socialism/communism is the only salvation because it makes things “fair” for everyone. There will be many knuckle dragging Neanderthals out there who will sign on to this.

    I lived through the chaos and tumult of the sixties and seventies, fought in an unpopular war, witnessed riots and burning cities, and I’ve known much uncertainty, economic ups and downs and gas lines. However, I’ve never known any period in my lifetime where I’ve been more concerned about our liberty and the well being of coming generations. We must defeat these evil people who would enslave us and generations unborn.

    I plan to donate money to carefully chosen causes and political campaigns, and I plan to become actively involved with the Tea Party Patriots.

    • American Citizen

      It seems the young people are not listening to the wisdom of their elders, yet they are the ones who are going to pay the price.

    • American Liberal

      Here’s some homework for you that claim president Obama wants to redistrabute wealth……who’s profited more in the last decade… The middle class or the wealthiest ?…. Of course I expect you to either lie or ignore the question….. Here’s another question I’m sure you’ll ignore…. Have wages gone up or down for average Americans……has wealth gone to the middle class or to the rich.?…. This site like to call liberals ” the elite”… When anyone with any common sense knows the Bob Livingstons, Chip Woods, Rush Limbaughs, Hannitys , Becks and the entire leadership of the Republican are the real so called ” elites”…they’re agenda is to rile you up so they can screw you into keeping them the ” real elite”…if you think they’re ” just like you” then you crazy as well as ignorant…

      • JeffH

        Obama sees huge jump in wealth
        At the end of 2007, his assets were worth as much as $7.35 million.
        Barack Obama 2009 Net Worth:

        Total Assets: $10,255,781
        Total Liabilities $1570,000

        Barack Obama’s 2009 Net Worth: 8,685,781

        Previous Year’s (2008) Total

        Total Assets: $8,610,386

        Total Liabilities: $1,570,000

        Barack Obama’s 2008 Net Worth: $7,040,386

        Obama Bombshell Redistribution of Wealth
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iivL4c_3pck

        • JeffH

          Sources: Tax Returns, 2008, 2007, 2000-2006 released by
          Obama campaign and White House (2008 only)

          • angel-wanna-be

            JeffH, It’s funny when Libs can’t be right, they more on to other rhetoric!

          • JeffH

            Obama does make contributions to charity also but we all must realize that this man strted with nothing and has built a pretty good cofer of worth at this juncture in his life. Nothing like the old vetran politicians that learned how to increase their wallets ten or twenty times over. Becoming wealthy is his reward for his socialist ideals and carrying out the wishes of the puppetmasters.

          • Smilee

            JEFFIE, GEE YOU MUST HAVE AN AWFUL BIG PILE OF GARBAGE, YOU NEVER SEEM TO RUN OUT OF IT

          • JeffH

            If I have any appeal at all, it’s to the fellow who takes out the garbage.

        • mikey

          Obama wants to raise taxes on himself. Imagine that.

          • Smilee

            HE’S WILLING TO PAY HIS FAIR SHARE, THAT IS SOMETHING CONSERVATIVES DO NOT WANT TO DO, GREED NOW RULES THEIR DESTINY

      • Rob in Arizona

        You are illustrating my point about “envy, hate and division.” Profit is evil, the rich guy (who incidentally employs more people than the poor guy) is the bad guy. Corporations and big busines (employers) are out to screw the little guy…….

        You are also an obvious example of my point about “outcome based education.” Pity that you have been so victimized, but I’ll bet your self esteem is very high.

        • Claire

          Rob in AZ –who are you replying to?

          • Rob in Arizona

            American Liberal….

        • JeffH

          Are your comments directed at American “wannabe” but I’m a liberal?

          Pretty well said, either way…there will always be those few that despise the “International Corporate Socialist”. ie..the Marxist/socialist

        • Smilee

          BIG CORPORATIONS CONTROL OUR GOVERNMENT TODAY, WHY DO YOU SUPPOSE THIS WELL ORGANIZED DESTROY OBAMA CAMPAIGN IS BEING WAGED, THEY ARE SMART ENOUGH TO KNOW IF HE EVER GETS THE CHANCE HE WILL TAKE THIS COUNTRY BACK FOR THE PEOPLE, YOU SEEM TO WORSHIP THESE OVERSIZED BUSINESS THAT TODAY CONTROL OUR LIVES, YES YOURS TOO. IF OBAMA WENT ALONG TO GET ALONG WITH THEM THERE WOULD BE NO DESTROY OBAMA CAMPAIGN. BY GETTING THE HEALTH CARE REFORM BILL PASSED HE GOT HIS FOOT IN THAT DOOR MUCH TO THEIR DESPAIR. BIG BUSINESS WOULD NOT SPEND ALL THIS MONEY TO DESTROY THIS GUY IF THEY DID NOT PERCEIVE HIM AS THEIR ENEMY. YOU SEE THEY HAVE GOTTEN USED TO MAKING MONEY THE EASY WAY NOT THE OLD FASHIONED WAY, THEY NO LONGER EARN IT, THEY LOBBY TO CHANGE LAWS TO MAKE IT EASY AT ALL OUR EXPENSES, IN EFFECT LEGAL THEFT FROM EMPLOYEES AND CUSTOMERS WHICH INCREASES THE DEMAND ON GOVERNMENT SERVICES ETC. EXAMPLE: EARNED INCOME CREDIT PAYMENT TO THE UNDERPAID FROM TAXPAYER MONEY, WHEN BIB BUINESS PAID LIVING WAGES THIS WAS NOT AN NECESSITY, TODAY IT IS. WHAT EVER HAPPENED TO LIVING WAGES AND THE CUSTOMER IS ALWAYS RIGHT MENTALITY WITH SERVICE IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE CUSTOMER. EVERY YEAR IT SEEM LATELY PEOPLE ARE COMPLAINING ABOUT PRODUCTS AND SERVICES FROM THESE OVERSIZED COMPANIES.

          • JeffH

            International Corporate socialist

          • Fed Up Gal in NM

            Smilee,

            Those who can (do) and those who (can’t or won’t)….well…that must be you! Careful, your jealosy is showing.

  • American Liberal

    When you compare President Obamas administration to Nazi Germany it really shows how ignorant you really are……. The first thing Hitler and the Nazi party did was have liberals arrested…. You Tea baggers should have paid more attention in school instead of throwing spitwads and disrupting those that wanted to Learn…. The Nazis also hated educators ( just like tea baggers) and wanted history books rewritten just like you rightys…. And of course Hitler claimed God favored him, just like you baggers do…. You are everything you accuse President Obama of being….. President Obama will finish his 2nd term as one of our greatest Presidents and Americans…

    • Dale

      Barack Obama exists only as the sock puppet of his handlers, of the people who have maneuvered and manufactured this individual’s life.
      When anyone else would quickly and easily produce a birth certificate, this man has spent over a million dollars to deny access to his. Most other documents, the paper trail we all leave in our wake, have been sequestered from review.
      He has lived a make-believe life whose true facts remain hidden.
      It swiftly became a joke that he could not deliver even the briefest of statements without the ever-present Tele-Prompters. His 17 minute non-answer to a simple question at TH last week confirms this.

      We laugh at the ventriloquist’s dummy, but what do you do when the dummy is President of the United States of America?

      • Rod

        I like that Dale Keep it up!

      • JeffH

        Dale…very astute.

      • angel-wanna-be

        Dale___ But Obama’s make believe life was revealed in a speech by his wife, when Michelle said something about “her husbands homeland of Kenya!”

        • JeffH

          …very true…

          • Smilee

            DALE, ROD, ANGEL & JEFF

            FOUR CHILDLESS AND IDIOTIC RESPONSES TO AN INTELLIGENT POST, HAVE YOU KIDS NO SHAME!!

          • JeffH

            There is a lot of rubbish written about toilet humour – people saying it is childish and pretending it is beneath them – but there is no doubting the effectiveness of a really good willy gag.

    • Rob in Arizona

      Wrong!!! The first thing Hitler did when he got power was to have all of the communists arrested. Guess you missed that in the course of your feel good “outcome based education.”

  • American Liberal

    President Obama is a right of center Moderate… Not at all a socialist …… That’s been my problem with President Obama… He’s to far to the right and he’s gone to far in trying to please the rightwing….

    • Rod

      American Liberal, You call youself the wrong thing! You mean Socialest Liberal!

    • Dale

      Among well-informed people, Leftism is a character defect. Leftists hate success in others — which is why notably successful societies such as the USA and Israel are hated and failures such as the Palestinians can do no wrong.

      A Leftist’s beliefs are all designed to pander to his ego. So when you have an argument with a Leftist, you are not really discussing the facts. You are threatening his self esteem. Which is why the normal Leftist response to challenge is mere abuse.

      Because of the fragility of a Leftist’s ego, anything that threatens it is intolerable and provokes rage. So most Leftist blogs can be summarized in one sentence: “How DARE anybody question what I believe!”. Rage and abuse substitute for an appeal to facts and reason.

      Leftists seem to believe that if someone like Al Gore says it, it must be right. They obviously have a strong need for an authority figure. The fact that the two most authoritarian regimes of the 20th century (Nazi Germany and Soviet Russia) were socialist is thus no surprise. Leftists often accuse conservatives of being “authoritarian” but that is just part of their usual “projective” strategy — seeing in others what is really true of themselves.

      IQ and ideology: Most academics are Left-leaning. Why? Because very bright people who have balls go into business, while very bright people with no balls go into academe. The academics hate it that bright people with balls make more money than them.

      • denniso

        Dale,you sound like a lunatic…you can’t imagine that there are people who go into certain fields to help other people and the world. They don’t think that money is all their is to living and many pursue jobs that are a challenge and a passion,and they don’t pay a lot of money…I guess you also can’t imagine there are people dedicated to teaching kids and helping turn out young people who will actually help the world and our society.
        Typical rightwinger blab that denies anything of value that isn’t connected to big money.

      • JeffH

        Dale, just disregard this decietful fake dennisso. Still living the lies of the 60′s revolution…capitalism is evil. Socialism will cure the worlds ills.

        “A Marxist begins with his prime truth that all evils are caused by the exploitation of the proletariat by the capitalists. From this he logically proceeds to the revolution to end capitalism, then into the third stage of reorganization into a new social order of the dictatorship of the proletariat, and finally the last stage — the political paradise of communism.”

        • denniso

          Such rightwing, no nothing drivel…

          • JeffH

            Anger dwells only in the bosom of fools.

          • denniso

            That’s not an example of anger,only fact…

          • JeffH

            The trouble with the rat race is that even if you win, you’re still a rat.

          • Smilee

            YOU SAID

            Dale,you sound like a lunatic

            I SAY I THINK IT IS A PRETTY SAFE BET THAT HE NOT ONLY SOUNDS LIKE A LUNATIC BUT THAT HE IS IN FACT A LUNATIC

            PAY NO HEED TO JEFFIE, HE JUST A FOUL MOUTH KID LONG OVER DUE FOR A DAMM GOOD SPANKING

          • JeffH

            If it seems a childish thing to do, do it in remembrance that you are a child.

    • angel-wanna-be

      American Liberal___You must be speaking about AFTER the midterm elections, when Obama will be in the “Minority Party”

      • Smilee

        IN YOUR DREAMS SWEETIE

    • Rob in Arizona

      Was it the “moderate right” part of him that took over GM and Chrystler and screwed all of the share holders to take care of the communist controled unions?

  • kate8

    AmLib, you are a perfect example of a product of revionist history.
    Progressives rewrite history so you won’t see what’s coming at their hands. Another aspect of mind-control.

    History unlearned is history repeated. And it is enabled by fools like you.

    • John

      Hey everyone,

      check this out!

      finally a way for everyone to get their voice heard and as a supporter of the Tea Party movement.

      http://www.onlinetaxrevolt.com/

    • JeffH

      Keep ‘em coming kate8, don’t let up for a second.

    • angel-wanna-be

      Kate8__OMG, you are so right!

  • kate8

    By your last comment, AmLib (Obama too far to the right???), your
    take on history is explained. You are pathetically ignorant.

    Wow. Scary.

    • Average Joe

      kate8,
      More like LObamatized…I thought they quit doing those operations back in the 50′s, but there seems to be a rising instance of the practice over the last few years…..

  • chuck b

    amer lib

    you have to hand it to hitler. the one thing he did right, arresting liberals. he knew who the subversives were.

  • Rod

    Hitler failed and so will Obama! Everytime he opens his mouth he dosn’t speak english, he speaks Socialism! He, Palosi and Reid are
    idiots that think the REAL American people believe the LIE’s they
    tell everytime they open their mouth. That alone shows how STUPID
    they are! The “American” people will clean out Washington and bring
    SANITY back to our Govt.

  • kate8

    The only one I see Obama “delivering wealth to” is the same bankers and political elites who’ve always gotten it.

    You libs live in a fantasy world, salivating for your paltry government handouts. You cannot even see that they are hoarding the largest portions for themselves. The only difference is that Obama and gang are devising ways to take even more from us. And libs are just fine with that. Never mind that they are, themselves, the evil rich you libs supposedly depise.

    Somehow, they’ve convinced you to worship them. LOL.

  • Cam Stapel

    This is a letter that I sent to Congressman Cohen.

    Congressman Steve Cohen.

    I am a typical Tea Party Member. I am a 100% mainstream American. I am 67 years old. I am a disabled Vietnam Vet. I love my country. I believe in the Constitution, the Bill Of Rights and the Declaration Of Independence. I believe in the free market system and I believe in intelligent control of Capitalism, I also believe that anyone that doesn’t believe in these things has no place in my country and should never be in the position of controlling this Republic.
    I am NOT a racist. I voted for Obama along with many other people that believed in what he said, only to find out that he is a corrupt Progressive Socialist and stole the presidency with half-truth and bald face lies. I would very much like to see him impeached and indicted. This view has nothing to do with the color of his skin. I believe he set integration back 100 years.

    I am NOT a Democrat.
    I am NOT a Republican,
    I AM an Independent.

    I love my country, which makes me a true American. I am NOT an extremist. I am a member of the roughly 80% of the people in this country who are conservative. Being the word extremist implies individuals or groups outside the perceived political center of a society, than the people that do NOT agree with me must be the extremist. The same goes for the term Racist. If a person plays the race card and it is without proof, THEY are the racists!! That is you on both counts.

    “NEWS FLASH”
    This Administration has unleashed a Giant. We will NOT let you tear this country apart. We will fight you first at the voting booth. The future of ALL incumbents both Republican AND Democrats hinge on their past voting history. If their vote follows the Progressive movement, they will lose!!

    Cam Stapel
    MN Independent.

    • JeffH

      Cam Stapel, pretty good letter. I’m sure it will be put in one of two files.
      1. The round file
      2. Haomeland Security file for “Right Wing Extremism”.

      Don’t ask me for the odds on it being #1

      • JeffH

        Homeland

        • angel-wanna-be

          JeffH, I sent a letter a few weeks ago, to our Governor, asking respectivly, but firmly, for his support in filing for the lawsuit agaist the healthcare bill. Just a day or so later, there was an article written, don’t quote me I believ AP, about heightened threats to Governors over the healthcare reform.__These Liberals are just waiting for violence to break out, and as far as I’m concerned they’ll wait til hell freezes over!

          • JeffH

            They will have to start it…then may God have mercy on their souls!

          • Claire

            This is all we need. There is enough fighting amongst ourselves now. But I guess there is no end to it until we are all destroyed. United we stand, divided we fall. So I guess we will all fall. People are playing into the politicians hands.

          • Claire

            And I wish to add we are falling into the medias hands too. As far as I am concerned the internet has become just like the media in many ways.

  • kate8

    Conservatives do not deify their politicians. When they show themselves unreliable for holding conservative principles, we stop supporting them and look for others who will.

    Libs keep voting for theirs no matter what they do. It’s some kind of blind loyalty. Sick, really. All they have to do is keep promising bigger entitlements and libs bow down in worship, giving no thought to the cost to the nation in treasury and liberty.

    It is truly selling one’s soul to the devil. And he will be coming to collect.

    • JeffH

      kate8,
      Some people just live with the fear of losing their spot in the government line!

      • Pete

        The kettle calling the pot black

        • JeffH

          the pot happens to be red enamel.

    • Sally S

      So hopefully John Boner and Eric Cantor will be leaving next year? They are both worthless. They couldn’t even stop healthcare.

      • angel-wanna-be

        SallyS, How can you stop Healthcare or anything for that fact, when your in the Minority?___You can’t!__The Obama Administration only made one token Bi-partisan attempt at healthcare reform, which was aired on TV. All of us knew it was nothing more than a dog and pony show for the cameras. The Libs had no intentions of using ideas coming out of the Republicans. Especially tort reform, because that would affect the lawyers.__ The founding fathers though were magnificent men, I don’t believe ever planned or even thought of a super-majority.__All we can do, is hope the damage is minimal while the Dems are in power, arm ourselves in truth, (watch & don’t listen to what is going on in Washington) and wait___Our Power will be in our vote in 2010 & 2012.

        • Sally S.

          What the Democrats the super majority? It was because people were sick and tired of what was going on with those there. You are right, your power is in your vote. But you should be voting them all out. They do not play well together. I think the founding fathers thought we would have a group of people coming together to discuss ideas. I also believe that being in congress was never ment to be a lifetime full time job. It’s time they ALL go home for good. Not just Democrats but Republicans too.
          But, The Republicans had said from the very begining they will not work with this Prersident. Can you say Sore loser?

    • BigBadJohn

      “kate8 says:
      April 12, 2010 at 2:13 pm

      Conservatives do not deify their politicians. When they show themselves unreliable for holding conservative principles, we stop supporting them and look for others who will.”

      Bet you voted for Bush TWICE – right? Even after it was shown that he lied, gave no-bid contracts to convicted embezzlers and flew 12 billion in cash into the waiting hands of his supporters. Is that what you consider conservative principles?

  • Josh

    The Lib is just making waves. He dont care. As far as how “Jesus” was, the rightous governmental laws were laid out in the Law of Moses. Our constitution is based on those laws. The constitution needs to be removed in order for the elite to take control of our lives here in America. These people in the White House are especially not idiots. They know what they are doing. There is a point or goal that these elites have. Most presidents were with them, including Bush. They made up the two political parties to push the momentum of the voters between the two. The presidents are hand picked. Churchill, Hoover, President Kennedy and others, spoke out against these elites. There are now coming out into the open with no fear to reveal themselves.

  • kate8

    Josh, you are so right. This has been carefully and strategically planned and systematically implemented for decades. They all know exactly what they are doing.

  • Delores Smith

    BOB LIVINGSTON,
    WHAT A FANTASTIC ARTICLE!!! IT GIVES ALL US THE TRUTH AS ONLY YOU COULD PUT IT TOGETHER. NOTHING LIKE THE FACTS. THANK YOU SO MUCH, BOB.
    GOD BLESS, BOB, ALL OF THOSE WHO POST ON THIS SITE, AND GOD BLESS AMERICA. ELECTION IS ALMOST HERE. LET’S DO WHAT BOB SAID…STUDY OUR CANDIDATES.
    DELORES SMITH
    Delores109@cox.net

  • http://www.churchofthemuzzelflash.com/ Drake Bailey

    Exactly right and The Tea Party is very carefully selecting candidates.
    As an example, Brown’s win was a test of what Tea Partiers could accomplish.
    Because Tea Party was not taken seriously, the door to door, take them to the poles, worked.
    I look forward to the next election, some will pick because of records and others just to get even…
    Either way, there’s going to be a lot of unemployment in Washington. Time they felt the pain the people been feeling.
    I’ll be forwarding this through out my national network as my contribution to throwing the bums out!
    Keep in mind that were the states to use The Tenth Amendment they could secede and reform our great nation as it was/is meant to be!
    I doubt there would be enough opposition to use force as was done in the Civil War.
    Get your state settlement banks up and running!
    Be prepared to defend The Constitution with arms if need be!
    Help in all efforts to right the ship of state!
    Get involved, support solid constitutional candidates, and by all means, VOTE THEM OUT!!!

    • Smilee

      BROWN IS NO DUMMY, HE USED YOU TEA BAGGERS TO GET ELECTED NOW HE WANTS NO PART OF YOU,

  • http://gmail Raindancer

    To all the retarded , mentally deranged, communist democrats on this site. All of your socialist leaders really have sold you another lie. In Cal. we are giving China over 45 billion of stimulas money, to start building a light rail,every one that has been built, has never made a profit, Am Track, a giant waste of money, never makes a profit~ Odumaz claims we are saving and creating jobs, yes even for communis countries, he is even going to let the Chinese engineers take away more jobs! As for Odumaz legal citizenship papers, his enterance papers to Princeton, say he is a muslim and not an American citizen. Nick wolf and the rest of you liberal morons, Odumaz said he want to spread the wealth to everyone, out of his own purple pie holed lips, dems always love to use someelse’s money to spend. Democrat eleits and, all don’t pay their own damn taxes unless they are caught. Then the get off with out penalities. Your liberal crooks, That you vote in constantly just love, no matter what they do. To the no minds that take great offense at the comment, of Odumaz being like Hitler! Hitler liked the name of National Socalist Democratic Party. Hitler plan was to create a nationalized health care, Odumaz and the socialist dems just did. Ready for the next social planning,wipe out or restrain free speedh! Also our health care cost has climbed so fast from the Great Society, another democrat social plan, and continues to climb. You idoits that love government total control, is because of the wonks filling a worthless position. All other countries allow medicine faster invention to public use, with out 25 years at least of studies. Second you can always get care you might have to sell everything, and there are programs to feed and care for you, but you will get care. The drug users that kill themselves by partaking of illegal drugs, tought tits, take responsibility of you health. The dems always love a medical problem to be solved by government. I still think we ought to drug check all Government officials down to drug user Odumaz.

    • American Liberal

      Rainman… You can’t lie any better than you can spell ….. You should invite these people to google your story….. Chinas going to build the train huh…. I didn’t believe people could be this stupid.. But there you are!

      • Smilee

        THEY WOULD NOT BE UNABLE TO SAY MUCH IF IT WAS NOT FOR ADJECTIVES, THEIR ONLY EXPERTISE IS IN USING ADJECTIVES

      • Average Joe

        Political tags – such as royalist, communist, democrat, populist, fascist, liberal, conservative, and so forth – are never basic criteria. The human race divides politically into those who want people to be controlled and those who have no such desire.
        Robert A. Heinlein

        • Fed Up Gal in NM

          Average Joe,

          Wow! Thanks for providing that great quote. Makes perfect sense.

  • chuck b

    hopefully the tea party movement will take heed of this federation of tea party’s. it looks to me like some of the old republican schemers are behind this and will try to influence tea party members into voting for some of the old party hacks. when i saw dick armey and huckabee on the roster it alarmed me. we need new people, new conservatives with clean records and we don’t need a bunch of political hacks trying to organize a coalition of tea party’s to influence them to vote for the same kind of people that got us where we are now with a pseudo marxist president.

    • Claire

      We need the rail like we need another hole in the head. Disgusting.

  • American Liberal

    President Obama just Gave America the largest Tax credit ever…. The republicans gave America the deepest recession since the 1930′s…..Watch for sites like this to Ratchet up the hate and lies…. Bob Livingston used all the talking point hate language to rile up the most ignorant Americans…his Tax cuts will expire in 2011 and his free ride on the backs of middle class America is just about over…

  • chuck b

    amer lib

    where do you get all your info? at the school library? (reform school)

  • Ron O.

    Seems like Denniso is having a hard time seeing from all the brown stuff in his/her eyes. So, here’s the first constitutional right Obama is denying, “FREEDOM OF CHOICE.” Americans have overwhelmingly told the Obama administration “NO” on this health care issue. The polls have shown clearly that over 65% of Americans are agianst this bill and the huge government power grab it represents and thy have rammed it down out throats anyway. Nowhere in the U.S. Constitution does it give power to the government to tell any of us what we have to buy yet that is exactly what this Obama program is doing. If you don’t buys a healthcare program by their designated date, you WILL be subject to a fine for not doing so. Wake up Denniso. Your Obama man wants your life and your money at his control.

    • Cindy

      Interesting you use the words FREEDOM OF CHOICE

      Freedom of Choice Act

      The Freedom of Choice Act (H.R. 1964/S. 1173) was a bill in the 110th United States Congress which “declares that it is the policy of the United States that every woman has the fundamental right to choose to bear a child; terminate a pregnancy prior to fetal viability; or terminate a pregnancy after viability when necessary to protect her life or her health.”

      It prohibits a federal, state, or local governmental entity from denying or interfering with a woman’s right to exercise such choices; or discriminating against the exercise of those rights in the regulation or provision of benefits, facilities, services, or information. Provides that such prohibition shall apply retroactively.

      It also authorizes an individual aggrieved by a violation of this Act to obtain appropriate relief, including relief against a governmental entity, in a civil action.”

  • American Liberal

    The Stimulas package will create 600,000 American job…… Google .. California to recieve stimulas money for light Rail…. Another rightwing Tea bagger Lie hits the the dust…..

    • http://GOGGLE vaksal

      JOBS WHAT A LINE,YES JOBS HAMBURGER FLIPPER ,CAR ATTENDANT,WORK AT WALLY WORLD,AND MY FAVORITE ,JANITORIAL WORK, WOW! AND THE GOING RATE FOR THESE HIGH PAYING JOBS? WHEN ONCE CALIFORNIA HAD A AIRCRAFT INDUSTRY ,AND AN AGRICULTURAL INDUSTRY AND A FISHING INDUSTRY,A TIMBER INDUSTRY,AND A BALANCED BUDGET BEFORE ALL THE CRAZIES VOTED OUT REASON IN GOVERNMENT AND REPLACED IT WITH LETS KILL OFF THE AMERICAN WORKER ANY WAY WE CAN AND SAVE THE SPOTED YELLOW BELLIED ONE EYED AND ONE LEGGED,SIDE WALKING AND TALKING CORRUPTED SMILEY FACED DOUBLE DEALING OFFICIAL THAT DID EVERYTHING TO CLOSE THOSE INDUSTRIES BY VOTING FOR BILLS THAT WERE PAYED FOR BY CROOKS( LOBBYIST).IN ITS PLACE JOBS THAT GENERATE 00000000000000000000000 (ZERO) BUT THE PEOPLE HOLDING THOSE JOBS ARE GETTING SOCIAL SERVICES AND FREE HEALTHCARE ON THE BACKS OF EVERY WORKER THAT STILL HAS A GOOD JOB,LIKE I SAID WHAT A DEAL.

    • JeffH

      A people that values its privileges above its principles soon loses both.

      • Cindy

        It is always more difficult to fight against faith than against knowledge.

        • JeffH

          I would rather live my life as if there is a God and die to find out there isn’t, than live my life as if there isn’t and die to find out there is.

          • Fed Up Gal in NM

            JeffH,

            I completely agree.

      • Average Joe

        I am free, no matter what rules surround me. If I find them tolerable, I tolerate them; if I find them too obnoxious, I break them. I am free because I know that I alone am morally responsible for everything I do.
        Robert A. Heinlein

  • American Liberal

    It’s really amazing how you baggers can lie and not blink an eye….

  • Claire

    I heard Brown has refused to attend a tea party and Sarah will be there. Wonder why?

    • JeffH

      I don’t think Brown ever was the Tea Party type. He’s a RINO, but a huge step up from Teddy and Massechussets far left.

      • Claire

        Jeff H — A RINO indeed. I do not trust him. He is totally out for himself. He will do what ever he thinks will make him look good. He is a typical politician and he is on the verge of becoming a con-artist like many of the others. There is a reason he is staying away from the tea party. I would like to know what that reason is–what his excuse is.

  • http://GOGGLE vaksal

    AFTER READING ALL THE DIFFERANT VEIWS POSTED IT TELLS ME THE AMERICAN PUBLIC IS WAKING UP TO ALL THE THINGS THE WASHINGTON BOYS AND GIRLS ARE AND ARENT DOING IN GOVERNING THIS NATION,HEALTHCARE,GUN RIGHTS AND THE CONTINUED ATTACK ON THE COMMON LAWS OF THE LAND( THE UNITED STATES CONSTITUTION AND THE BILL OF RIGHTS,AND SADLY IT HAS PUT ALL OF THIS NATION FIGHTING AGAINST EACH OTHER THE RICH AGAINST THE POOR,ITS SAD BECAUSE AS THIS NATION BREAKS INTO OPOSSING CAMPS,THE CORRUPTED FEW THAT HAVE CAUSED THIS SIT BACK AND LOOK AT THE NATION AS THE WOUNDED PREY IT HAS BECOME.WE MUST AS AMERICANS UNITE IN THE COMMON CAUSE OF THROWING OUT THE CORRUPTED OFFICALS AND HAVE A LAW,THAT WOULD INPRISON ANYONE BUYING OUT ANY ELECTED OFFICAL IN GOVERNMENT,IT SOUNDS HARSH,BUT IT HAS COME TO THAT POINT IN THIS NATIONS HISTORY THAT WE THE AMERICAN PEOPLE MUST SEIZE OUR RIGHTS BACK FROM THOSE WHO HAVE SOLD THE AMERICAN VOTER INTO SLAVERY,BY NOT DOING AS THEY VOTED( THE AMERICAN PEOPLE) BUT VOTE AS CORRUPTED OFFICALS PAYED OF BY LOBBIST AT ALL LEVELS,WHILE WE THE WHOLE NATION DEMOCRAT AND REPUBLICAN VOTERS ARE THROWN IN THE DUNG HEAP THESE ENLIGHTEN LEADERS ,HAVE CAUSED THE EVIL OVER EVERY PERSONS HEAD,RICH AND POOR ,THE POINT IS WE MUST UNITE AND THROW THESE SELF SERVING MINI-TYRANTS OUT OF OFFICE ,DEMOCRAT OR REPUBLICAN MATTERS NOT,JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT OR CHILDERN,FAMILIES,FRIENDS,AND ALL FELLOW AMERICANS DONT LOSE THE VERY RIGHTS THAT ALL THAT DIED FIGHTING FOR WAS NOT IN VAIN,FOR EVEN AS WE SEE THAT THIS NATION IS MADE OF MANY DIFFERENT NATION, WE HAVE ONE THING THAT MAKES US UNITED IN THIS CAUSE ,AND THAT IS EACH OTHER AND THE VERY DOUCUMENTS(THE U.S.CONSTITUTION AND THE BILL OF RIGHTS AND THEY SHALL NOT BE ABRIDGED NOR PUT TO BARTER TO ANY PARTY NOR WRITTEN TO ENBRACE A SELECT FEW,THE POINT IS KEEP YOUR EYES ON THE TRUE EVIL THAT HAS TAKEN OVER THIS NATION,ITS NOT THE RICH NOR THE POOR ,NOT THE REPUBLICANS NOR THE DEMOCRATS,BUT THE BOUGHT OUT OFFICIALS IN BOTH PARTIES,THROW THEM OUT JUST TO LIVE FREE,IF THEY HAVE TAKEN GIFTS FOR THE VOTES THEY HAVE PASSED,AFTER ALL THEY ARE JUST PUBLIC SERVANTS AND NO MORE THAN THAT,AND IF THEY DONT DO YOUR WISHES ,SPANK THEM HARD BY NOT VOTING THEM IN,( GO TO THE END OF THE LINE AND WAIT FOR YOUR NUMBER,GUESS WHAT ? YOU ARE NO LONGER EMPLOYED GO LUCK AND GOOD RIDDANCE.

    • Catherine C

      After reading most of the comments on this site, I’m convinced more than ever that a great majority of the American people are asleep–sound asleep!

  • kate8

    AmLib, where do you think the money is coming from (re: light rail)?
    THEY ARE BORROWING IT FROM CHINA.

    Where have you been? Seems all you like to do is attack and name-call without knowing what you are talking about.

    Grow up.

    • American Liberal

      Kate… I realize you have the IQ of mud… So re read rainmans post…. Quote:… Were giving China 45 billion dollars to build the light rail in California..unquote… Later in his post he goes on to lie that the Chinese will be building the train…. Now…I will amend my post….. Kate , you are as big an idiot an liar as Rainman….. A person can google just about anything you post , don’t you realize that?… I know, Jesuse said it’s OK for you Tea baggers to lie….
      Another lie in Rainmans ( raindancer) is that the amount of cash stimulas to Calif is 45. Billion…. It’s only 2.5 billion…he was only off by 42.5 billion….Kate, I’d tell you to grown up too but it would be useless… So I stand by my statement that you tea baggers are liars and idiots..

      • JeffH

        He who angers you conquers you.

        • Sally S.

          The victor will never be asked if he told the truth.

          • JeffH

            Live out of your imagination, not your history.

  • krtstl

    Dale, tell me what I missed on your comment you made about the Clinton years, was not that the annual deficit decreased from 400 billion in 1992 to 18 billion in 2000 tell me that the about of deficit spending was not decreasing?

  • American Liberal

    Just think about the kind of country these tea baggers want and what kind of politicians they support if they will sit in here and tell bald faced lies knowing the lies can be googled….. Now think about what kind of Christians these lowlifes are to use Christianity to try and condone the kind of people they really are…. These rightwingers are the scum of the earth…. If you really believe all that Heaven and Hell nonsense you rightwing republican tea baggers are on the fast track to hell…you will not win…

    • JeffH

      Anger is a killing thing: it kills the man who angers, for each rage leaves him less than he had been before – it takes something from him

      • Cindy

        It is not these well-fed long-haired men that I fear, but the pale and the hungry-looking.

        • JeffH

          Usually, terrible things that are done with the excuse that progress requires them are not really progress at all, but just terrible things.

  • American Liberal

    Actually it was you rightwing locust that started borrowing money from China to finance Bushs Iraqi adventure… And it was you that took this country into the worse recession since the 1930′s… And you don’t know If 1 dime of the stimulas money going to California came from China… We may still be borrowing money to finance the war Bush had his mind made up to get us in…you so called conservatives should have to give up your right to vote for being so foolish…. And the fact that you voted for someone as dumb as Sarah Palin proves you’d rather destroy the country then not have your agenda… You really are traitors..

    • Sally S

      That who Sarah Palin Michele Bachman thing is just amazing isn’t it? Nothing inteligent comes out of Bachman’s mouth, and Palin just repeats the same old dribble.

      • Smilee

        a LOCAL TV STATION IN MN RIGHT BEFORE THE PALIN/BACHMANN RALLY DID A REALITY CHECK ON BACHMANN’S SUNDAY MORNING TALK SHOW STATEMENTS. ON 7 STATEMENTS SHE MADE THEY FOUND THAT SHE OUTRIGHT LIED ON FIVE AND MISLED ON TWO. GUESS WHAT SHE MADE ALL THESE SAME STATEMENTS AT THE RALLY AND AGAIN ON A NATIONAL TALK SHOW THE DAY AFTER. HOW DOES A WOMAN WHO CLAIMS TO BE THIS FINE CHRISTIAN WOMAN JUSTIFY TO HERSELF THAT ALL THIS LYING IS OK. I LIVE IN HER DISTRICT AND WE ARE WORKING HARD TO RETIRE HER THIS NOV. WE HAVE A SUPER CANDIDATE IN TARYL CLARK AND WE FEEL IF ANYONE CAN BEAT HER IT WOULD BE TARYL.

        • Sally S.

          I wish you luck. I think we need to retire 435 people in the house.

      • Fed Up Gal in NM

        Sally S,

        You might want to re-read your own comment, before referring to Bachman and Palin’s comment….as…..dribble. Just a thought.

    • JeffH

      Do not dwell in the past, do not dream of the future, concentrate the mind on the present moment.

      • Cindy

        The art of leadership… consists in consolidating the attention of the people against a single adversary and taking care that nothing will split up that attention.

        • JeffH

          It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society.

      • Average Joe

        It is a truism that almost any sect, cult, or religion will legislate its creed into law if it acquires the political power to do so.

  • Sally S

    Funny, when I read over all of these comments the ones that call themselfs Tea Party ot Republicans just seem to repeat the same old things. Those that seem to be more liberal try to have a debate about things and try to discuss their feelings. But then when that happens the tea baggers seem to have nothing worthwhile to add so they just resort to name calling and trash talking. What are you guys going to be like if you don’t win in Nov? Who’s fault will be? Oh let me guess, Accorn.

    • JeffH

      Sally S, what is funny is that you even wrote a comment like you did. You must be so naive to think that there could be a debate at all. At this point in time, the lines have been clearly drawn. I’ve already figured out where you are coming from and make another comment or two and so will everyone else.

      “do what you can with what you have and clothe it with moral garments”

      • Sally S

        Oh Jeffy,
        I figured that would upset you. My work is done since it was directed towards you. LOL. You didn’t disapoint me a bit.

        • JeffH

          Never one to dissapoint…

          • libertytrain

            Mikey and Sally seem to be newish and quite similar in style – don’t you think? Probably plant/s from another left site.

          • denniso

            Hi Sally…you say the rightwingers here seem only to repeat the same things over and over. Should we be surprised? No…when a person or group is closed minded,not curious about the world or human nature,sees tolerance as a character flaw and continues to look to the past for solutions to the problems of a modern and increasingly complex society,their thinking naturally gets mired in a rut…that’s why the mantra of the right and ‘tea party’ is,’take our country back’. Back where?? to the dark ages of the white male dominated society we’ve unshackled ourselves from?

          • Sally S.

            denniso,

            The sad thing is that in the end it’s all politics. It’s not about what is good or bad for the country, it’s about party politics. There have actually been some good ideas thrown out there from the right, and there are good ideas from the left. The goal should be taking ideas from both sides and putting them together into one Bill that is good for the country. But neither side will give in.
            Then we have the tea bagger movement. In theory is a good idea and is what America is about. But it was organized from the begining by Big insurance. They sucked these people in and just made them angry. Lower taxes more freedom, great ideas but do they fit in with what is going on?
            Then we have people like Rush, Palin, Hannity, and our friend Bob here that seemed to have hijacked the tea baggers as a way of getting rid of Democrats. But in the end each party does it’s self in. Back in the 90′s the Democrats did themselves in and the Republicans took over. Contract with America, some good stuff in there, but the they let GW stumble onto the stage and let him do as he pleased and did themselves in. They will get their time again, but they can’t wait. They have to make Democrats look like the bad guys now. It’s all politics and as it is fought out the middle class shrinks smaller and smaller.

          • JeffH

            “take back our country” is the mantra of the American majority, which I might add, include many Americans, not JUST the Tea Party.

          • Pete

            Dearest Jeff,

            “take back our country” is the mantra of the American majority,

            Is it the majority, or the minority? Just because it’s what you believe doesn’t mean we all believe. You really do need to get off the far right web sites and watch something other than Fox News. There’s a whole world going on around you and you are only getting part of the story.

            I think what happens in Nov. will give us a good idea of how the people in this country are feeling. I’m really excited to see what happens.

          • JeffH

            I have always been amazed at the way an ordinary observer lends so much more credence and attaches so much more importance to waking events than to those occurring in dreams… Man… is above all the plaything of his memory.

      • mikey

        “A man wrapped up in himself makes a very small bundle.”

        • JeffH

          I arise in the morning torn between a desire to improve the world and a desire to enjoy the world. This makes it hard to plan the day.

          • eyeswideopen

            Jeff, I have asked many times, how you can get disability checks and food stamps and be so anti-government? Do you think you deserve it because you belong to the “correct political party”? Your hypocrisy is appalling and is a prime example of the radical rights entitlement attitude of I deserve help, but others don’t. Just where will you be when the radical right cuts off your assistance checks?

          • Cindy

            I can’t judge any of you. I have no malice against you and no ribbons for you. But I think that it is high time that you all start looking at yourselves, and judging the lie that you live in.

          • angel-wanna-be

            Cindy, …And what lie do we live with, within ourselves?_

          • Cindy

            angel-wanna-be,

            Self righteousness

          • angel-wanna-be

            Cindy, to that I say speak for yourself!

          • denniso

            Wow, I’m impressed…JeffH has gone from name caller and vitriol spitter to a Hallmark card writer…a little too much cliche,but definitely an improvement.

          • Cindy

            angel-wanna-be,

            If you tell a big enough lie and tell it frequently enough, it will be believed.

          • JeffH

            Big mouth EWO…You only think you know about me.
            Chalk another one up for the good guys.

            “He who angers you conquers you.”

          • angel-wanna-be

            Cindy, BUT THE TRUTH SHALL SET YOU FREE!

          • JeffH

            Big mouth spin doctor EWO…just an answer for you…

            If there were no stupid questions, then what kind of questions would you stupid people ask?

          • Average Joe

            Never underestimate the power of human stupidity.
            Robert A. Heinlein

            Two things are infinite: The universe and human stupidity…and I am not positive about the universe.
            Albert Einstein

          • Fed Up Gal in NM

            Cindy,

            That lie you say we’re living in…..I can’t argue with you on that….unfortunately it’s the malignant lie the current administration and Congress has injected into all of our lives…..including your own.

    • Catherine C

      I agree 100%. Won’t find too much of an intelligent debate going on here.

    • Fed Up Gal in NM

      Sally S,

      Reallllly now? Hmmmmmmm….guess that trash talk you did on Bachman and Palin (both Tea Party proponents) puts you in the same dingy then….You’re so funny….kinda like…Larry, Darryl and Darryl all wrapped up in one neat little confused package :-).

  • Sally S

    I like the battle cry, Repeal and Replace! I can’t wait to see what they come up with to replace it with.

    • JeffH

      “If you push a negative hard and deep enough, it will break through into its counterside… every positive has its negative.”

      • Sally S

        Can’t stand to not have the last word, can you?

        • JeffH

          A creative man is motivated by the desire to achieve, not by the desire to beat others.
          Ayn Rand

          • denniso

            Keep quoting Ayn Rand and lose more and more credibility…sorry,but her writing is designed for 8th grade students.

          • JeffH

            Which puts it about 3 grades higher than your mentality!

            Education is a progressive discovery of your own ignorance.

          • Me Too

            “See, in my line of work you got to keep repeating things over and over and over again for the truth to sink in, to kind of catapult the propaganda.” –George W Bush – Greece, N.Y., May 24, 2005

          • libertytrain

            Denniso – how fortunate we have you to determine what we should or should not be reading – very democratic of you, very self-righteous – Just sign me, a contented 8th grader.

          • denniso

            No, not self righteous of me…it’s just that compared to people like JeffH i’ve actually read enough to know that Ayn Rand was a fraud w/ a
            simplistic philosophy that resonates well w/ 8th graders…a long time ago,I thought she had something to say beyond simple platitudes and catch phrases…a person reads and thinks and grows w/ time and is more able to discern the good from the pure crap like her spewings.

          • libertytrain

            Denniso – you’re right, the rest of us, of course, are wrong.

          • JeffH

            libertytrain, Alinsky was the “father” of the modern day radical and when his ideas are understood and his tactics are understood, I find it easier to understand someone lik duh!nisso.
            His tactics can work both ways.

            “The real action is in the enemy’s reaction. The enemy properly goaded and guided in his reaction will be your major strength. Tactics, like life, require that you move with the action.”

    • Fed Up Gal in NM

      Sally S,

      Whatever it is, it’s gotta be better than the continual put on cry coming from you.

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQtpRjBLXic&feature=fvw

      • libertytrain

        Fed Up – thanks for that – I get that effect at this house with the toddlers at least once a week – so funny to see what it looks like from the eye of a camera!

  • ’53 Korean Vet

    Obama’s not listed as a “Nazi”, but he is a “untruthful lawyer”, who was endorsed by the American Community Party–before the elections–!
    -(To See why the Tea Party Came Forth)–it was disclosed in the 1963 Congressional Investigation–& is still in the Congressional Records-!
    Type in: http://www.whale.to/b/soviet.htm You can read for yourself–read the “Editorial Note”, & the “Address by Lavrent Beria”, & then, read Chapter XIV–”The Smashing of Religious Groups”–(Isn’t this what’s happening today??) We find “Quotes”–”We have battled in America since the century’s turn to bring to nothing any and all Christian influence and we are succeeding! While we today seem kind to the Christian, remember we have yet to influence the “Christian world” to our ends. When that is done we shall have an end to them everywhere!
    You may see them here in Russia as “trained apes”. “So-so Socialists!”
    “You must work until the officials of city, county, state governments,
    will not think twice ‘fore they pounce upon religious groups as public
    enemies.” (Russians were Socialists!!) It’s not necessary to convince
    the masses. It’s only necessary to work incessantly upon the official,
    using personal defamation, wild lies, false evidences & constant Propaganda to make him fight for you against a church or any member.”
    “As it seems in foreign nations that the church is the most ennobling influence, every branch & activity of each & every church, must, one way or another, be DISCREDITED!” The Atheists & so-called Socialists prefer to be called by other names. The odd thing about these two groups–is that they seem to be “Copy-Cats”! They seem to be Copying the agenda of the “Old Agenda of the 45 Declared Goals of the Communist Party”, which was shown by the 1963 Congressional Records-!
    (It’s also “Strange” above–they referred to their soviet-citizens in Russia as ‘Trained Apes-’!! This is what they hope–will happen here in America!! From these observations–(Does the “Soviet-Style Brain- Washing” Work??) Just look around you–didn’t they find a lot of ‘Trained Apes’ in America!? (Tea-Party Citizens just found out-!!)

  • Dan

    New Leftist Tactic is to infiltrate tea party activities and spout the “racist homophobic hat speech” to their willing media accomplices to discredit the movement http://www.crashtheteaparty.org/

    • JeffH

      A pretty disgusting website isn’t it. The leftis libs should be proud to be associated with them.

  • GregS

    Those of us who live in Illinois are pretty much stuck with liberal RINOs like Kirk. Our Republican primary was early this year, and he came out on top. Now we’re stuck with him. I voted for his conservative opponent. In November, he will be running against a liberal Democrat (Alexi Giannoulias). I don’t like Kirk, but I think I’ll be voting for him (holding my nose), as opposed to Giannoulias. More liberal Democrats in Congress is the LAST thing that we need.

  • Claire

    I am from Illinois–I don’t care for any of them that are running.

    • GregS

      Claire, I feel exactly the same way that you do, but what can we do? Are you going to just not vote in that Senate race?

  • Claire

    Greg S — I voted for Brody in the primaries but I have misgivings about him especially since he introduced the so-called euthansia crap for animals. He has backed out of it and gave this piece of legislation to someone else to take care of. And there are a few other issues that I need to check out about him since I have heard gossip. I need to find the truth. As far as I am concerned, the Republicans are as bad as the Democrats. None of them are honest. I thought at one time Aaron Schock was going to be o.k. but now I don’t care for him. He is another RINO. He is out for himself and he will not let anything or anyone get in his way. We have a pitiful choice for politicians. I do know I will not vote for any Democrat. I either vote or I won’t. It is really pathetic that people cannot trust the politicians. But I should know better, it has been this way for years and years.

    • Claire

      sorry, “Brady”

  • Me Too

    Sally is right. JeffH can’t stand not having the last word. He just has to say something. What a goof ball he is.

    Jeff is it true you collect disabilty and food stamps? So the guy on government assistance is crying about the government spending so much. I guess he wants it all for himself.

    • JeffH

      Me Too, I see you fall into and believe the rumors. I’ll not even respond to your assumptions.
      I did notice that you have embraced “crashtheteaparty” which does qualify you as a sick and twisted individual.

      • eyeswideopen

        Jeff, you were the one who told all of us that you used your disablity check to help pay your medical bills, we had no way of knowing until you finked yourself out. You shouldn’t be ashamed of being on disability, you should be ashamed of demeaning others who are in the same situtation that you are. Without the government you would have been homeless. So when you are spewing such hate for that government, you are a hypocrite.

        • JeffH

          eyeswideopen, I don’t owe you or anyone else here any explanation.

          Your memory is short and full of erroroneous information. Given your constant scatterbrained banter, it is easy to understand, but I won’t excuse you. Just like the liberal left, you have taken what little bit of informtion you have gathered in your pea brain and made assumptions based on what you percieve as the reality of the matter, without facts to back it up. You don’t know me from Adam.

          Your constant claim of a deep faith is all smoke and mirrors and, yes, YOU WILL BE JUDGED FOR YOUR SINS when your time comes. You are truly a disgrace to christianity and the human race!

          • Sally S.

            It would seem as though someone struck a nerve with our friend JeffH. I think at this point he does owe everyone here an explanation. The question has been asked and inquiring minds want to know. Is JeffH on public assistance? If the answer were no one would expect him to say NO! or Hell NO. But instead he just goes round and round and preaches to us about being judged. I would hate to be in Jeff’s shoes the day he meets his maker.

          • JeffH

            Sour Sally S. You couldn’t fit in my shoes and I’ll be just fine when my time arrives.

          • Pete

            Once again JeffH does not disappoint. Making sure he gets the last word in but dancing around the subject. Must be his dancing shoes that Sally can’t fit in. Who would want to be in Jeff’s shoes though? I mean on public assistance and complaining about those on public assistance.now I know why he’s so afraid of Obamacare. If the nation goes broke because of it Jeff won’t have anymore money.

          • JeffH

            And also they were absolutely brilliant in one way, you know: they knew how effective is not to punish somebody who is guilty; what liberals could afford to do was mind-boggling: they could do practically anything they wanted – steal, you know, lie, whatever.

          • Smilee

            JEFFIE I REMEMBER IT TO, YOU HAVE TOLD US THAT BEFORE AND NOW YOU WANT US TO BELIEVE THAT BACK THEN YOU WERE LYING, YOU ONCE TOLD ME BECAUSE YOU HAD NOTHING TO DO BECAUSE OF YOUR DISABILITY WAS WHY YOU COULD ME ON THIS SITE SO MUCH. YOU ARE AN OUT AN OUT PHONY AS FAR AS I CONCERNED.

          • JeffH

            It’s like the old telephone game. It further adds to the misinformation. Liberals rarely hear the story, so the information gets distorted.

        • JeffH

          Big mouth, if the shoe fits, wear it and these are the shoes you wear!
          The liar’s punishment is not in the least that he is not believed, but that he cannot believe anyone else. The only thing worse than a liar is a liar that’s also a hypocrite!

          • Smilee

            YOU SHOULD KNOW YOUR BOTH A LIAR AND A HYPOCRITE

          • JeffH

            Sweet dreams, cupcake!

    • coal miner

      MeToo,

      Yes it is true.He is the first one in line at the welfare office.His disability comes from, too sorry to work syndrome and too lazy to fight the gnats out of his a*s.He hates big government and said if they try to knock him out of his food stamps and welfare checks,they got another thing coming.
      Big Government!Who needs it?

      Ha Ha ha

      • JeffH

        coal miner, based on the other comments you make, I’ll let your own ignorance and lack of knowledge and your satanic faith lead you through this path of mis-information.

      • Sally S.

        You can tell JeffH has been caught in a lie by the way he responds. If he were smart he would just give up. But he’s not that smart. He has to have the last word on everything. It’s more fun than a hole in your pocket making him squirm. HaHa!

        • JeffH

          The great enemy of the truth is very often not the lie, deliberate, contrived and dishonest, but the myth, persistent, persuasive and unrealistic.

        • Smilee

          SALLY, I THINK IN YOU JEFFIE HAS MORE THAN MET HIS MATCH, I JUST WONDER HOW MUCH HUMILIATION HE IS WILLING TO SUFFER BEFORE HE GIVES UP, I’M NOT HOLDING MY BREATHE THOUGH

          • Sally S.

            It’s funny, I’ve read over the comments and Jeff ussually has some kind of stupid comment. It’s like he’s trying to be the center of attention. When he can’t come up with anything worth while he just resorts to name calling and the same old liberal bashing he has learned. This site must make him feel powerful and mighty because he gets to comment and call people names. LOL

          • Sally S.

            It would be interesting to find out that he is on government assistance. He hasn’t said no yet. He just dances around it and then finds quotes to post. Lots of people can copy and paste. I guess Jeff can’t come up with a good aurgument on his own. He has to copy and paste.

          • JeffH

            Discussion is an exchange of knowledge; argument is an exchange of ignorance

  • Me Too
  • Barb

    dennisio,
    This is in response to your rant about how not everybody can gain the American dream. Well I have known a lot of people who grew up the way you described and even worse, and have to tell you, it wasn’t easy but everyone of these people I know pulled themselves up, brushed themselves off and did achieve their American dream despite the odds. They say that ONLY in America could something like that happen and I have to agree with them! Just because your childhood was bad is no excuse to wallow in it and expect the government to take care of you or your neighbors for that matter. Fortunately in America when family fails as apparently yours did most of the time neighbors do help and government but there comes a time when a person has to claim responsibility for themselves and stop feeling sorry for themselves and make their life better for themselves. Three of these people I know are now business owners very successful and two of them watched their Mothers die from drugs or beatings from a boyfriend. So as Angel said America is a land where anyone can achieve the American dream, they just have to try. I know poverty, I grew up in it and I swore as a little girl I would not raise a family in it. I worked hard met a great guy, who worked hard put himself through college and me and we raised our family in comfort the American way. By hard work and sacrifice! And I might add we help take care of kids who live in conditions like you described, as I’m sure Angel does too and most conservatives do through donations and time. So saying we’re heartless just shows how hateful you are. There is really no excuse not to make it if you want to in this country, it just takes hard work in more ways than one, that seems to be the stumbling block for a lot of people who are on the left.

    • angel-wanna-be

      Barb, Good post!__I knew hardtimes too as a kid , Mama was sick, Daddy worked the Mill(sounds like a country music song title, doesn’t it?), I was pretty much on my own from about 7___I use my life as and example, not because I’m a narcissist, but because I know it and lived it___I’m not famose, or important, but I made it through thus far. And if I can overcome a badtime, I feel anyone one can.__We can be anything we want to be here in America, but we must pay our dues and work for it, and stay in constant prayer. God Bless!

      • denniso

        For every success story of a kid escaping crushing poverty and terrible social conditions,through sports,business or hard work,there are probably a thousand others who don’t make it out. The system and society don’t have the wherewithall to accomplish it for all…the number of good jobs and lucky breaks and college benefits don’t match the millions of kids trying to make it.

        You amazingly don’t seem to understand human nature or our society at all…babies,kids,teens learn what they are taught growing up. Most who are raised in terrible conditions learn that behaviour and don’t even imagine there is another way. Drug dealing,fighting,stealing,
        killing,teen pregnancies all become normal life for kids in that situation. How then,except in a few cases,can you expect a young person to make it in civil society when that is an unknown concept
        to them?
        Why do blacks make up 60% of the prison population when they are only about 15% of the country’s population? Most rightwingers say it’s because they are just ‘bad people’. Ridiculous…it’s because of how the vast majority of blacks are raised in our country…poverty,slums.violence,lack of education,etc…My guess is that you are white,hence a member of the ruling class w/ an immediate
        advantage from the time you were born.

        • TIME

          Da O,
          Ok lets see – I was dirt poor when I grew up, I had nothing, my father left when I was less than a 1 year old. My Mother left when I was less than 2 years old. I was left with a very poor family that took me in.

          I had dog as a friend, and a bed to sleep in. I grew up quite well – I had dreams, and I followed them I worked very hard, I spend my time in books, I read everything I could get my hands on.
          My gifts were old used books that I would get for Christmas and my Birthday’s, they were the best things I could have ever been given.

          They opened my mind they opened my sprit, they gave me eyes where I had none, they gave me comfort when I was alone, they gave me knoledge!
          With that knoledge I was able to work at small jobs where I was able to make some money to put aside for school. I then worked hard in school to learn everything I could learn, I ate knoledge, I injested it like food, it grew me in all ways.

          When I was 16 I had a job working on a tobacco farm, the owner like me and saw I was trying to get into a good college, he did an act of “CHARITY” He called his old school and told them of this skinny Black kid that was as smart as a wip, how could they help me.

          The rest is history, they gave me a chance not due to my being a waste material, but due to my wanting to work to make it.

          As I said by age 32 I had made my first Million. I have never stopped giving. I saw the CHARITY I was given as the KEY, to what I would make of myself.

          So get over it! I don’t believe in rhetoric and self pitty.

          • Smilee

            ONE WOULD THINK WITH THAT TYPE OF BACKGROUND YOU WOULD BE CAPABLE OF SOME EMPATHY FOR OTHERS, IT APPEARS HOWEVER YOU ARE JUST TO FOCUSED ON YOURSELF TO REALLY CARE. YOU CERTAINLY DESERVE A LOT A CREDIT FOR YOUR ACCOMPLISHMENTS BUT YOU GET AN F FOR BEING A LOVING CARING PERSON.

        • JeffH

          Time…a very good way to get a point across. It won’t happen in duh!nisso’s case. He/she is an anti-capitalist and lives as such. I’m sure he/she has never accepted a capitalist’s dollars and what dollars he/she does have is returned in charity 100% for those she fights so hard to support with your and my dollars.

          • angel-wanna-be

            AWESOME TIME, GOD BLESS YOU!

          • denniso

            If that’s a true story Time, then good for you. Someone helped you w/ a charitable act or you wouldn’t have gone anywhere,right? So the moral of your story is people should be willing to help one another. What happens to all the young,impoverished kids growing up in lousy conditions who don’t have a charitable person to help? They often fall into and don’t escape a hell on earth. Prison,poverty,gangs,death…Shouldn’t we,even for our own self interest, help the people at the bottom who become predators in society? Even if we don’t do it for humanitarian reasons as real Christianity would dictate?

          • JeffH

            True or not, the moral of the story is obvious…nothing is “free”.
            “Free” is just a 4 letter word with hidden conditions like those great “free vacation giveways” that the telemarketers use to harass you with during dinner time. I wouldn’t think you could ever understand that! I’m sure you live in poverty as you donate all off your capitalist income to halfway houses and food banks.

          • JeffH

            Dennisso, please continue your crusade to “save the impoverished” that have become drug addicts, thugs, gang members, rapists, felons, ex-cons. I’m pretty sure there are as many or more success stories of the impoverished that didn’t give up as their are sad ones. Don’t give up in your quest to redistribute the responsible persons hard earned income, afterall, they don’t need it.

          • Joel Johnston

            Keep asking the libs if they take 50% of their paycheck and hand out to those in need. Never get an answer.

          • Fed Up Gal in NM

            Joel Johnston,

            Sure they do…..just look at the very generous VP Biden….gave a little over $6,000.00 to charity……guess we’re only paying him $12,000/yr…………..LoL funny.

    • JeffH

      Barb and angel, I know and understand exactly what you both are talking about. I grew up poor, but never gave it a second thought. I wasn’t taught how to succeed, it wasn’t constantly a concern or beat into my brains. I did learn that I needed to be responsible for my successes and failures, get a job and work hard in order to keep it. The hard work part was easy and so was the job part. I was very fortunate, but I think you mostly get out of it what you put into it.
      I’ve also been through the toughest of times and have experienced the highs and lows of life. I never made excuses though, for anything, and I think that is definately what I see in people more and more. Quit with the excuses and take responsibility for your own life, it will definately make your personal life more rewarding.

      • Smilee

        JEFFIE, COME ON BE HONEST, YOU ONLY CARE ABOUT JEFFIE AND NO ONE ELSE

        • JeffH

          I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them.

  • Cindy

    All great movements are popular movements. They are the volcanic eruptions of human passions and emotions, stirred into activity by the ruthless Goddess of Distress or by the torch of the spoken word cast into the midst of the people.

  • Cindy

    Capitalism is the legitimate racket of the ruling class.

  • Cindy

    These few dollars you lose here today are going to buy you stories to tell your children and great-grandchildren. This could be one of the big moments in your life; don’t make it your last!

  • Jeep

    After reading a lot of inane comments (Sara sucks! Obama is a Nazi! It’s Bush’s fault…et al) some of you make no sense. Are you all so partisan? I can take any stat and turn it in “my” favor. Yeah, Bush increased the deficit, Clinton had affairs, Reps paid off Wall Street at the same time Dems received more campaign contributions from investors. Dems were in office during our world wars, but Reps have fought more “undeclared” wars…and? Keep up your petty arguments. It will get you nowhere. I’m not trying to tell ya’all what to post, I just think if you would step back and read your own posts for what they are, you just might agree that it’s pretty silly, very childish.

    The current groundswell of anti-tax, smaller govt feeling that is pervading this country is a direct result of the fact that this country is by and large middle-right. The current administration has an apperent left leaning agenda. The usually quiet middle class American has for some reason decided to make their concerns heard. I think this is a great day for Democracy! Everyone should be involved. Hopefully, some day soon the day of the ignorant voter will be a thing of the past. In fact, this may be our opportunity to get past partisan politics.

    • Joel Johnston

      I hear you Jeep. It looks like a lot of partisan party politics in here at times. The biggest mistake this group can make is coming to such blogs, rallys, etc. and gain momentum and courage to make real reform. When the time comes to vote on it though, such people will divide onto either side of the fence to vote for their entrenched party (DNC or RNC). Then the best chance of affecting change we have ever seen will be reduced to watering down the voting power of the masses of self-entitled Americans who belief the rich should be eaten. If the majority of “tea partiers” are “big-two” party loyalist, I predict the movement to reclaim America will come to a stand-still.

      Wake up people and quit the partisan bickering. Grow some courage if you need to and make a firm stand to unite. This is as real as it gets and the Pepsi generation is at your heals. Remember they just want to, “drink Pepsi and get stuff.” If we miss this chance then the next several get harder because the number of people who know the difference or can still remember it will decrease.

      • JeffH

        Joel Johnston…I believe you nailed it. It’s a situation that must be addressed openly and will continue to be a “catch 22″ thorn in the side by too many voters unless they can make the huge jump past the two party system and vote for America, not for their emotions. There is definately a majority that believe in this country as our forefathers did. Getting that majority on the same page at the booths will be the toughest job in November, but I believe it can and will happen. These Tea Party people aren’t anything close to the types of people that the liberal left and their media have portrayed them to be. It will all come out in the wash.

        • JeffH

          jeep, well said and I concur.

        • angel-wanna-be

          JeffH, your right, and the only reason the Libs are causing problems and mis-reporting the news, is the Liberals are scared of 2010!. Like we’ve all said before, It seems when the Libs are beginning to lose the debate, they resort to either name calling, bullying or say it’s all Bush’s fault!.

  • Earl, QUEENS, NY

    Re: “So if you want to take back your government—take back your country—from the Obama regime and his Marxists redistributionists, don’t think you’re going to do that by selecting just any Republican candidate.”…..That is somewhat true. Not just any republican will solve all our problems. However, you fail to mention an even worse problem – voting for the democraps, as we saw in 2006 and even worse in 2008!! It’s regretable that a large % of voters have this “I don’t want to vote for the lesser of 2 evils – Let’s teach the GOP a lesson!!”, and they vote for democraps, who are probably 90-95% responsible for the sad state of our nation now!! Look at any website with conservative ratings for all of Congress. You will see republicans at the top (most conservative ratings) and democraps at the bottom (most liberal). Well, I TOTALLY DISAGREE WITH THESE VOTERS!! Many of us don’t like RINOs or more liberal leaning republicans such as John McCain. But ask yourself, if McCain had won in 11/2008, would national hell care have been signed into law? Would unemployment remain as high as it is now? Would we be going into $trillions of unsustainable debt?? I DON’T THINK SO!!

    OBAMA = One Big Awful Mistake America!! Think about it in the 2010 and 2012 elections. WISE UP AMERICA!! ELECTIONS HAVE CONSEQUENCES!!

    • GregS

      Well said, Earl! However, I think there is another scenario, which is just as bad as voting for Democrats, just to teach the Republicans a lesson: Not voting at all. I fear that a lot of conservatives will not vote in races, where the only choice is between a RINO and a liberal Democrat, even though the RINO might be the lessor of the two evils. I strongly feel that every conservative, who does not vote for the lessor of the two evils, contributes to handing the office over to the liberal Democrat on a silver platter. Conservatives need to come together and get the socialists out of office, no matter how long it takes. The all-or-nothing approach will NEVER work, because there is NO such thing as a perfect politician! They ALL have skeletons of one form or another in their closets. Conservative voters who will not vote, play right into the hands of the liberals who divide and conquer.

  • DESTRY RIDES AGAIN

    TO ALL TEA PARTY MEMBERS EVERYWHERE:

    PLEASE CONTINUE THE GOOD THINGS THAT YOU ARE DOING. GOD IS WITH US IN ALL OUR CHRISTIAN UNDERTAKINGS TO SAVE AMERICA AND HE WILL HELP AND GUIDE US ALWAYS. ENCOURAGE ONE ANOTHER AND IF YOU CAN AFFORD IT, PLS. CONTRIBUTE ANY AMOUNT THAT YOU CAN SPARE TO THE TEA PARTY FUND.

    AM UTTERLY DISMAYED WITH THE WAY CALIFORNIA IS SINKING IN THE MORASS OF ITS OWN PROBLEMS. WHAT A WASTE !!! THE MIDDLE AND UPPER CLASSES (SO BADLY NEEDED IN CA) ARE LEAVING FOR OTHER STATES AND THE BAD EGGS LEFT BEHIND ARE THE LIBERALS, SOCIALISTS, AMERICA HATERS, THE LAZY NE’ER-DO-WELLS WAITING FOR FREEBIES AND ENTITLEMENTS AND (TAH DAH !!!) THE COMMUNISTS (BUT, OF COURSE!!!). PRETTY SOON, THE INCOMING THUGS AND TOUGHIES WILL INCLUDE THE MEXICANS, HISPANICS AND LATINOS {THE PONYETA AND CONYO GARDEN VARIETY}. CALIFORNIA DREAMIN’ IS NO MORE !!!!!!!

    MEANWHILE, BACK IN THE @#$&!!!, BHO WILL BE OH SO OVERWHELMED WITH THE UNSTOPPABLE CONFLUENCE OF GLOBAL EVENTS SUCH THAT HE MIGHT JUST UP AND SKEDADDLE AND 23 SKIDOO AND HIGHTAIL IT BACK TO THE LAND OF HIS BIRTH (GUESS WHERE? SHHHHHHHH !!!)

    BUT WTF WILL HE DO THERE? AHHHHHHH !!! WITH THE READY, WILLING AND ABLE TUTORAGE AND TUTELAGE OF ONE WILLIAM CHARLES “BILL” AYERS, HE WILL WRITE A BOOK. YES! A BOOK! MOST IRONICALLY, ‘TWILL BE ENTITLED “THE MAN WHO WOULD BE KING {OF KENYA}” LOL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    EVERY AFTERNOON, TOGETHER WITH HIS STEP-SIBLINGS, COUSINS, UNCLES AND AUNTIES, THEY WILL HAVE A SHINDIG WHILST WATCHING THE SUN GO DOWN. NATURALLY, THEY WILL BE SERVED ARUGULA AND KOOL-AID (UNPOISONED) AND THEY WILL SING KUMBAYA ‘TIL THE MOONLIGHT TURNS TO DUST.

    THUS PASSETH THE TEMPORARY GLORY OF THIS CRUEL WORLD.

    • Palin12

      Destry your descriptions of California’s problems are spot on and exactly why I left there 6 years ago. For every taxpaying professional that leaves CA another illegal alien sneaks in and doesn’t pay anywhere’s near as much money into the state tax coffers resulting in an unsustainable budget.

      • Ellen

        I to left California after my husband passed away. Often I have wondered if thats what the illegal’s are waiting for? They certainly are multiplying, enjoying ALL the freebies, and still speaking in forein tongue, and RUDLY TREATING OUR FLAG and People. It was not America anymore and I do not appreciate the thugs in there now fighting with THE PEOPLES MONEY to powder their nest! They sold us out!

        • Sally S.

          How can you tell who is illegal?

          Why hasn’t English ever been passed as our national language? That issue has been out there for a long time.

          Why hasn’t the fence between the US and Mexico been completed?

          • Palin12

            If there’s 15 of them living in a 3-BR house, with 10 cars parked on the lawn and the only word they know in English is “hi”….they are illegals.

          • Palin12

            I forgot to mention, all those cars on the lawn are old beatup pieces of junk with unfinished bondo all over them.

    • JeffH

      DESTRY RIDES AGAIN or should I say James Stewart.

      I too have watched this decline of a once resourceful and powerful leader of states be reduced to a whimpering state of illegals and beggars powered by the powerful eco-friendly neer-do wells. It is most difficult to see “progress in action” without the lowly working taxpayer’s pennies. Where have all the people gone? Where have all the leaders gone?

      • JeffH

        Wonderful movie also.

  • Cindy

    As a Christian I have no duty to allow myself to be cheated, but I have the duty to be a fighter for truth and justice.
    Adolf Hitler

    • libertytrain

      Here’s something from a website re Hitler quotes:
      “Scholars are still unsure whether or not Adolf Hitler was a believing Christian or just a politically cunning theist…”

  • JeffH

    To anyone that might be interested. I have sent a letter to my representatives through Downsize DC and I encourage those that agree with a repeal of the Health Care Bill to do the same. Downsize DC provides that avenue:
    https://secure.downsizedc.org/etp/campaigns/114

    It reads in my own words:

    True healthcare reform requires less government involvement, not more.

    I am outraged at Congress and this administration for turning their backs on the American people with this outrageous Health Care Bill that presents everything but REFORM. Congress should and needs to repeal this bill. Each and every proponent of this bill will be held responsible for their actions. Each and every elected representative will be deeply scrutinized and held accountable for for their role in the destruction of what should be a bipartisan, constitutional democratic republic.
    Do not expect a vote from myself or the majority of Americans for your re-election if you have ignored your constituents and the oath you have taken to uphold and protect the Constitution and the people of the United States of America.

    • Kimmy Barns

      That’s very good. Did you write that yourself?

      • JeffH

        With the exception of “True healthcare reform requires less government involvement, not more.” Yes, they are my own words.

        • Kimmy Barns

          And how do you manage to reform healthcare with less government involvement?

          • Jeep

            How about DEregulate interstate insurance commerce? How about DEregulate govt price fixing? Just for starters….want to go on?

          • Sally S.

            Yes, please go on.

  • Ellen

    If obama is a TURE American Native Citisen, why is he so secretive and ashamed of a HONEST B.C.?? Not the lieing one thats is for everone to be fooled by!
    I am accountable for what I have earned, not ANYONE ELSE! I answer for it, not anyone else.
    We need to band together, learn JUST who the skum is that’s stealing something (a Country) THAT DOE’S NOT BELONG TO THEM and GET THEM OUT!! If they are NOT WORKING FOR AMERICA, it is treason we the people need to deal with it NOW.
    STOP back yard name calling, every party has played their part; NOW grow up and FIGHT for our country. They sell one way ticket, if you don’t like it here.

  • James the curmudgeon

    Obama won, handily, and now we have wisdom in the White House. Go ahead and concoct your lies, distortions and wild imaginings. We have a President for the ages. A two-term, transformational President!

    • American Citizen

      Obama was not elected, he bought it.

      • denniso

        Are you that ridiculous and foolish? Obama won w/ 53% of the vote and a large electoral margin…since the Repus don’t want real campaign finance reform or public financing of elections,it takes millions to run for and win the presidency. The Repubs usually raise more money from their corporate pals than the Dems,but Obama used the internet to raise small amounts from a million or so donors…yep, it sounds like he stole the election…

    • Jeep

      James, not many presidents can say they won handily. Only two presidents since 1940 (Nixon and LBJ) can even claim 60% of the popular vote. In fact, since FDR only two Democratic presidents, Carter (just barely) and Obama have garnered more than 50% of the popular vote. Meanwhile, on the Republican side Eisenhower (x2), Nixon, Reagan (x2), and both Bush’s have managed to carry over 50% of the popular vote. Granted it is the electoral college that ultimately decides, but you were apparently trying to make the last election some kind of mandate. Why don’t you put it into perspective first? You really do not want to break out the demographics of the last election.

  • ABinGA

    Hugh Jordan-It was The War for Southern Independence. I’m more or less a new comer to this site. About three weeks. Have made a few posts and it seems as though denniso is the first to jump. I don’t care though because I do not agree with any of denniso and the like’s veiws. Give ‘em hell JeffH. I like your style!

    • JeffH

      ABinGA , welcome aboard!

  • Doug Rodrigues

    The Republican Party is worried that a third party candidate will split the vote. The warning I give the RNC is to get rid of the RINO’s. I, and many other TEA Party people will vote for the most Conservative candidate available regardless of political party. If the Republicans don’t want a split vote, then they had better be damn sure to have true Conservatives running for office, and not just another pretty face. I would suggest Ron Paul, who in my opinion is the only truly honest politician out there. He is bluntly honest. None of that speaking out of both sides of his face like the attorney politicians do. I’m sick of attorney politicians! I don’t agree with everything Ron Paul says, but I’d vote for him over ANY other politician running for ANY office.

    Still fresh in many people’s minds are those last 8 years of the Republican majority. You burned us once. It won’t happen again. Because of those 8 years, I ceased donating to any and all Republican candidates. Get the RINO’s out and function like true Conservatives or we will not consider voting for any Republicans either! The third party candidates are looking attractive, if just for the fact that they aren’t Socialist Democrats or two-faced RINO Republicans. A word to the wise should be sufficient.

  • ABinGA

    Thanks JeffH. I’ll be dropping in more.

  • Pete

    Can you say sell out? Your Hero is also all about the money. I think it’s clear. If she really cared about the people she wouldn’t be making $12 million in nine months. She’s no hero but a typical greedy politician wannabe.

    Report: Palin has raked in $12 million since July

    By John Byrne
    Tuesday, April 13th, 2010 — 10:15 am

    Since leaving her post as Alaska’s governor last July, Sarah Palin has earned a whopping $12 million, according to a new estimate published Tuesday by ABC News.

    The estimate says it draws on “publicly available records and news accounts,” but doesn’t offer a detailed accounting. ABC reporter Matthew Mosk says much of her earning power has come from her TV, book deals and scheduled speaking appearances.

    For her speaking gigs, Palin has received as much as $200,000 a pop, making the $12 million figure seem eminently more plausible. Last October, Palin also received a $1,250,000 retainer for publication of her memoir “Going Rogue” from HarperCollins, which doesn’t include royalties she’s been paid since the book’s publication last December.

    While governor of Alaska, Palin earned a (relatively measly) $125,000 annual salary. By contrast, Palin now earns as much in a single day: she’s said to be accruing a nearly $200,000 honorarium for speaking to a hospital fundraiser in Toronto on Thursday.

    The $12 million estimate for the past nine months is “conservative,” Mosk averred. The sum would be more than 100 times her gubernatorial salary.

    “The actual number is probably much higher, but is hard to quantify because Palin does not publicize her earnings, and has managed to keep a lid on reliable figures for her earnings from a multi-year contract with Fox News and a second book deal with HarperCollins,” Mosk wrote.

    An unnnamed Palin spokeperson told ABC that Palin’s income statements are not for public consumption.

    Palin “is now a private citizen,” the aide purportedly said. “As a result, her fees and earnings are private.”

    The aide isn’t quoted as disagreeing with ABC’s estimate.

    During her vice presidential run, Palin and her husband reported $166,080 in taxable income and more than $1 million in assets as of 2007. Most of Palin’s earned income came from her salary as governor.

  • Pete

    She’s no hero but a typical greedy politician wannabe.

    Report: Palin has raked in $12 million since July

    By John Byrne
    Tuesday, April 13th, 2010 — 10:15 am

    Since leaving her post as Alaska’s governor last July, Sarah Palin has earned a whopping $12 million, according to a new estimate published Tuesday by ABC News.

    The estimate says it draws on “publicly available records and news accounts,” but doesn’t offer a detailed accounting. ABC reporter Matthew Mosk says much of her earning power has come from her TV, book deals and scheduled speaking appearances.

    For her speaking gigs, Palin has received as much as $200,000 a pop, making the $12 million figure seem eminently more plausible. Last October, Palin also received a $1,250,000 retainer for publication of her memoir “Going Rogue” from HarperCollins, which doesn’t include royalties she’s been paid since the book’s publication last December.

    While governor of Alaska, Palin earned a (relatively measly) $125,000 annual salary. By contrast, Palin now earns as much in a single day: she’s said to be accruing a nearly $200,000 honorarium for speaking to a hospital fundraiser in Toronto on Thursday.

    The $12 million estimate for the past nine months is “conservative,” Mosk averred. The sum would be more than 100 times her gubernatorial salary.

    “The actual number is probably much higher, but is hard to quantify because Palin does not publicize her earnings, and has managed to keep a lid on reliable figures for her earnings from a multi-year contract with Fox News and a second book deal with HarperCollins,” Mosk wrote.

    An unnnamed Palin spokeperson told ABC that Palin’s income statements are not for public consumption.

    Palin “is now a private citizen,” the aide purportedly said. “As a result, her fees and earnings are private.”

    The aide isn’t quoted as disagreeing with ABC’s estimate.

    During her vice presidential run, Palin and her husband reported $166,080 in taxable income and more than $1 million in assets as of 2007. Most of Palin’s earned income came from her salary as governor.

    • Jeep

      Uhhhh…so, what’s your point, Pete? She makes a lot of money for her fame and position? Good for her. Are you jealous? Do you resent her views, or how much money she makes? She gets paid to speak. So does Clinton, Bush, and any number of former members of congress, the senate, etc. Are you bashing them too? Be consistent. You can disagree with her politics, but should not disagree with the price tag.

      • Pete

        She quit her job that she was elected to do to chase money. She is a sell out. A greedy person who should not be trusted. Bush, Clinton, Bush, Gingrich ect all completed their tasks they were elected to do. They served their time. Palin QUIT to go after the big bucks right away. She’s so greedy she couldn’t even wait 18 months. And you people think she is a saint. LOL

        • Jeep

          You guys are so bloody intent on painting anyone with your preconceived notions that you cannot see how childish you sound. My five year old makes a better case than either you, or Sally. Not that you should care, but I am not a big Palin fan. However, as former resident of Alaska I can say that fiscal responsibility has always been expected of leaders of that state. My point was simple…but, I will try to simplify it further. Attacking anyone based on how they make money is tenuous at best. Your vile commentary is anti-capitalist and exposes both of you for your wretched lack of consistancy. I think Palin has already explained the reasons for stepping down, sorry (not really) if you do not like her reasoning. You are certainly entitled to your opinion, no matter how juvenile it is. My final point was that if you do not like her politics, fine. But, you will not make points by bringing your pathetic wrath down on her financial house. It just makes you look petty.

          • Me Too

            I’m hoping she runs for President. Palin / Bachman 2012! That would be more fun than a barrel of monkeys.

          • Ice

            Please stop aurguing about Palin. She is great and very smart. Think about it, if she can get greedy people to hand over $200,000 at one time just to hear her speak, she must be doing something right. Because there can not be that many stupid people can there?

            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YgiqSNNuhQg

          • JeffH

            Jeep and Ice…Her possible aspirations to become president may have been inhibited by the left constantly slamming her, but they have certainly enhanced her pocketbook ten fold. They have created this “monster” and now they bitch and complain because she has the intelligence to take advantage of the very people that publicly hated her and the connections they have magnified with the average American citizen. Seems like a no win situation for the left on this one. They obviously can’t stand smart and pretty at the same time.

        • keith

          IF ONLY THE LIBRAL MARXIST DEMOCRAT TRAITORS WOULD VOLUNTERILY STEPP DOWN I WOULD BE FLABBERGASTED!!!AT LEAST SHE HAS PRINCIPLES,THE MEANING OF THAT WORD YOU HAVE NO UNDERSTANDING OF SOCIALIST!

      • Sally S.

        If she really cares so much about the cause and the Tea Party and so on, why does she need to be paid so much to speak? Why does she insist on bendable straws? Think about it, Thousands of people give up their time, take time off work, pay for travel and stuff to go to events to protest. She gets paid $200,000 just to show up and say Things like we aren’t free, reload, and you betcha. She should be doing these things for free if she really cared. She doesn’t care, she’s typical politician, what’s in it for me?

        • Sally S.

          But hey, you all are the ones giving her the money. It’s your money and you are freely handing it over to her. So hey go for it!

          • Jeep

            Yes…you still look petty and childish…

          • denniso

            Watching Palin babble for $200,000 a pop,I have to wonder about the intelligence of the people who think she’s actually saying something.

          • Sally S.

            Oh well, I’ve looked petty and childish before. At least I’m not foolishly handing my money over to her.

        • JeffH

          Classic Alinsky. Sally S.You have learned your lessons well, but so have we…

          “Whenever possible, go outside the expertise of the enemy. Look for ways to increase insecurity, anxiety and uncertainty. (This happens all the time. Watch how many organizations under attack are blind-sided by seemingly irrelevant arguments that they are then forced to address.)”

          “irrelevant” being the key word with you hacks!

          • Sally S.

            I guess when you are on disabilty and have nothing to do all day you have a lot of time to read and surf the web and learn things. I too was wondering about the Alinsky comment made by Jeff so I took a minute from my lunch break and aurguing with you folks here to find out what Alinsky is. Sounds like an awful awful man wanting to make conditions better for those in the gheto.He has even been compared to Thomas Pain. OMG!

            Saul David Alinsky (January 30, 1909, Chicago, Illinois – June 12, 1972, Carmel, California) was an American community organizer and writer. He is generally considered to be the founder of modern community organizing and has been compared in Playboy Magazine to Thomas Paine as “one of the great American leaders of the nonsocialist left.”[1]

            In the course of nearly four decades of organizing the poor for radical social action, Alinsky made many enemies, but he has received praise from an array of public figures. His organizing skills were focused on improving the living conditions of poor communities across North America. In the 1950s, he began turning his attention to improving conditions of the African-American ghettos, beginning with Chicago’s and later traveling to other ghettos in California, Michigan, New York City, and a dozen other “trouble spots.”

            His ideas were later adapted by some US college students and other young organizers in the late 1960s and formed part of their strategies for organizing on campus and beyond.[2] Time magazine once wrote that “American democracy is being altered by Alinsky’s ideas,” and conservative author William F. Buckley said he was “very close to being an organizational genius

          • JeffH

            Sour Sally S. Your credibility ended when you started believing the Big mouthed spin doctor EWO. I find it rather amusing to say the least.

        • eyeswideopen

          Sally, she has made 12 million since july 09, yep these people who are at tea parties and complaining they have no jobs are giving their money to some one who pre screens her questions. Too funny.

          • Palin12

            Lyin’ Eyes….as you know, I was at the Tea Party in Searchlight. So be careful what you claim goes on there. You make it sound like people have to pay to go Tea Parties. I went there and didn’t pay anyone anything except $1 for an impeach Obama sticker. Watch searchlight Tea Party clips:
            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gt4vxGtFqo

  • JPW-

    To me it does’nt matter if President Obama was born in Kenya or Hawaii.He has done so much for American health, peace around the world, nuclear arms re duction the stock market and the American economy and people the world over starting to respect America once more.He may have come here directly from the portals of heaven he has blessed America so much.

    • Pete

      You must be joking.

    • Jeep

      Verily the clouds parted, and the light shone forth. From heaven manna did spring and all were saved!

      • keith

        AND THE DEVIL CAN COME IN THE GUISE OF LIGHT!

    • eyeswideopen

      JPW, where you been? Your buddy JeffH is mad at me for calling him out on his disability payments. Don’t think he gets the hypocrisy of slaming the hand that feeds him.

      • JeffH

        What you don’t see with your eyes, don’t witness with your mouth.

      • keith

        hey moron,i would rather have him on disability than you,at least he earned it.YOU have’nt done squat!just like a slew of other lazy sorry assed moochers that take welfare and disability just to have a free ride.you think your so smug.your just a motermouth trying to spread dissention on this forum and i see you for what you are loudmouth,your just a chip off the obummer libral block,stupid is as stupid,monkey see,monkey do.get a life socialist!

      • Fed Up Gal in NM

        Eyes,

        I don’t care if people collect their Social Security if they’ve paid into it. Those who have met their 40 quarters should be able to continue to draw it. I do think it’s a good idea however, for the government to change it beginning with those who have less than 20 quarters under their belt….that would be fair (in my opinion), because the people who have already built the program with their SS contributions should not get penalized so late in the game. The newbies will not have contributed enough of a basis to the program and will have more time to prepare for their financial retirement years,fixed incomes, etc….so that seems fair to me.

        I met my 40 quarters many years ago and am still contributing to a SS program that likely won’t be solvent (as it is already expected to go beyond broke in the next year so). So stop nit-picking on people who are receiving SS benefits that they actually helped subsidize…why don’t you harangue the perfectly abled bodied adults drawing SS, who have not met their 40 quarters and claim “I can’t work….because I have ADHD”…..give me a break…..or just pay it out of your own pocket and gloat how “charitable” you would be!

    • Palin12

      The funniest post I have ever read here! What have you been smoking?

    • keith

      SAY WHAT??????HAH HAH HAH HARDEE HAR HAR WHA HEE HEE HAH HAH HAH HAH!!!!!

  • ABinGA

    No, not bitter. Whats done is done. To many current events to worry about than to dwell on The War for Southern Independence.

  • ’53 Korean Vet

    As I’m in the age-group, who saw & experienced the “Big Depression” in it’s “Black & White Despair”–I’ve already said “I told you so”, during last February in 2009-! (For those of you, who are too young to have seen “The Great Depression”, just hope we can get out of This One-!) Those who knew what one looks like–can’t be deceived, by “Empty Words–without Deeds”-!! When a car’s out of gas–”Grinding the Starter Does No Good”–until you “Walk far Enough to get Some More-!” So far, everybody’s doing “The Talk”–but nobody’s willing to do “The Walk”! (So here we sit in the middle of “A Depression”!) Every Body’s denying–that IT is ONE-! In the “Big Depression” many people had “Lost” their jobs, their Farms, & their Homes–not even speaking of their money, they’d lost in Banks-! This time is a little different, they lost their jobs, homes & Farms–But this time, the Federal Government took a ‘Short-Cut’ & “Gave Away Billions of Money to the Banks-!” (Same Result–”Your Money’s Gone Bye-Bye Again with Govt. help–to speed things up a bit-!”) “Ahem”–Don’t you see the difference-!? Now again, see a starting Recovery-Forecast–in 2016!
    Let’s go back in time a little-! Before the Tea-Party–The Mayflower Pilgrims came to Early America in 1620, & landed-! I had no choice, 3 of them were my ancestors aboard! THEY find, They had a problem–no “Corner Grocery Stores”! “Common-Sense” told them that ‘They might not have enough food to get thru the winter’, until they’re able to grow more, & harvest it next fall! 1st– Look at the Problem, admit IT is the MAIN PROBLEM–next, find a ‘reasonable’ Solution-! (Problem–Enough Food?!) Solution–”Go on 1/2 rations of food for the next Two Years! (Problem–Solved!) This type of “Common-Sense”, replaces all “Prior Book-Learning”! True–there won’t be any “Fat” Pilgrims, but nobody starved either–they ALL Made IT! They had No radios, no washing-machines, no TV’S, no ‘Designer shoes, nor Jeans, no cars, nor “Mickey-Mouse” watches-! Weren’t they “Disadvantaged Families”-!? Nope-! They didn’t need these things to be happy–they had their families–(& plenty of Work to do)–cutting down logs for homes, & stockades-!! They were America’s most “Successful Families!
    There wasn’t a Government to “Give Them Anything–they earned IT-!” And thanked God for each day–for what they had-! Plus, they acquired an Indian-friend called “Squanto”-he shows them how to plant “Corn”! In 2008, we had another Problem–’Too many Homes with Loans are being Foreclosed,& causing a Financial “Melt-Down” Mess that threatens all of America-! See if Pilgrims’ Common-Sense might solve that problem-!
    For those retired on Soc. Sec.–who bought homes 10-15 yrs ago on FHA & VA fixed interest rates, & they were over-taxed by ‘false-inflated’ home-values, which raised their Property-Taxes Doubled within 5 years, together with cost of utilities, medicines, gas & food costs, going up also–on fixed incomes, they ran out of money! They bought modest 3-bedroom homes, which appraisers–prompted by banks, to sell the loans, with false “Inflated-Values”, inspired by Speculators, who wanted to become Millionaires in 6 yrs–promoted by multitudes of Late-Nite TV Commercials! Plus once you bought your house, you could acquire a loan at 125% of the house’s value! Can you smell’B.S. yet-?
    We can’t save those–with ‘Interest-Only’, ‘ARMS’ & “Mickey-Mouse” Loans, those weren’t loans,they’re “Jokes”, waiting for’Punch-Lines’! But for people with fixed-interest Loans & incomes–give them a 3-yr
    Property-Tax Exemptions from their County–& from these official verified County-Records, reimburse this helpful county from Fed Funds! In Chicago, this would give the home-owner $3600/yr, or $300 from his own pocket to pay Principal, Interest & Home Insurance without Property-Tax burden for 3-yrs, until regular home-values go down to proper prices–and reduce the property-tax to fair-values! He resumes his house-payments to his Lender, without penalities, & the Banks no longer need Bail-Outs with floods of money coming in again! By Helping the qualified home-owners, instead of giving Billions to Banks–it’s less costly!! Obama first wanted to buy each loan at $200,000 for 500,000 homes–that equals $100 Billion Dollars!
    But if you use Property-Tax Exemptions, $3600 x 500,000 homes equals
    Less than $2 Billion, which is cheapest way out, plus you helped over
    ONE MILLION PEOPLE TO SAVE THEIR HOMES-while helping the Banks too, plus we’re now able to put these One Million off the County Welfare Rolls–& start to decrease the number of Foreclosures–to start a Recovery on the Melt-Down Economy-! Everyone’s on a winning streak!
    Otherwise, you’ll end up like Detroit Tax-Payers, who are paying out
    $10,000 to have each “VANDALIZED” House–Raised to the ground! A waste of tax-payers’ money, since you didn’t ‘save’ the home-owner, nor his house–(You’ve also ruined his credit for the next 10 yrs) which means, he cannot help you with any “Economic Recovery”-! Did you realize, once “He’s Gone”–”You Are Next-!” Your Job’s gone, too!
    This type of Boat is just like the “Titanic”–There’s not enough Life-
    Boats for all of you-!? Do you understand “A Big Depression”–Now!?
    Remember, there were broken Millionaires, besides working men, who jumped out 6-story windowsn in New York!! No Body’s Safe–this time!

  • http://google mike b.

    Big Bad John, now exactly how many republicans voted for Hussein Obama Care? Next time you lump the two parties together for this massive intrusion of government into our lives, check your facts. 0 republicans voted for this marxist agenda by this thug Hussein Obama and his criminals in the democrat-led congress that started this communist take-over of america in 2006. We didnt have this all-govt. take-over and intrusion under Reagan. As the great Gipper said Government is the problem, not the solution. People also had money in the 80′s, something that could come in handy to the 10% un-employed in this country right now under this joke of a leader Hussein Obama. Get your basic facts straight before you question someone’s minor mis-spelling of one letter. All this crap started after Reagan and has come to a total govt. take-over of everything under the thug regime of Hussein Obama and his minions in the main-stream state-run media. The american people have seen the mistake they made by being fooled into voting for this thug and are realizing it more and more everyday. Pelosi, Reid and this criminal Democrat-led Congress is in store for a political bloodbath in Nov and Hussein Obama is destined to be a one-term president as the level-headed, common-sense, moral majority of americans will not be fooled again!!”We The People” must do this to save whats left of this once great nation for the sake of our kids and grandkids. GOD BLESS AMERICA!!!

  • http://google mike b.

    I agree with you angel-wanna-be i wish a lot of these mis-guided liberals like eyes-wide-open would get lost. These are the kinds of mis-guided bums we can thank for ruining this once great nation. Thanks for voting in this thug Hussein Obama and giving our kids and grandkids billions of dollars of debt, no jobs, and terrioists with more rights and lawyers than the average law-abiding american citizens, and practically no future to enjoy the great american dream we were able to enjoy under Reagan. Thanks again for the “CHANGE”. Thanks for nothing, which is exactly what Hussein Obama and his czars and thug administration will leave us with. NOTHING. 0, ZIP, ZELCH, NADA. GOD BLESS AMERICA, AS ONLY THE LORD HIMSELF CAN SAVE US NOW!!!

  • http://google mike b.

    WORDS OF ENCOURAGMENT FOR THE TEA-PARTY AND THE WONDERFUL SARAH PALIN!!! KEEP UP THE GREAT, PATRIOTIC WORK. MAJORITY OF AMERICANS ARE BEHIND YOU. 60% OF AMERICANS AGREE WITH TEA-PARTY COMPARED TO 30-% WHO AGREE WITH OUR PRESENT POLITICIANS. REST OF % HAVE NO OPINION. YOU ARE VERY BRAVE AND YOUR WORK IS VERY MUCH APPRECIATED BY MORE AMERICANS THAN THAN YOU’LL EVER REALIZE. I HAVE ONE FINAL PIECE OF ENCOURAGMENT TO SAY, MANY AVERAGE, LAW ABIDING, HARD-WORKING AMERICAN CITIZENS ARE BUSY TRYING TO HOLD ON TO OUR JOBS(THANK GOD IF YOU ARE LUCKY ENOUGH TO HAVE ONE) AND PROTECTING OUR FAMILIES, BUT TO YOU BRAVE, PATRIOTIC, GREAT AMERICAN TEA-PARTY MEMBERS I HAVE THIS TO SAY AND REMIND YOU; COME NOVEMBER, HELP IS ON THE WAY!!! WE WILL JOIN YOUR GREAT CAUSE AND FIGHT AGAINST THIS TRAMPLING OF OUR CONSTITUTION BY BEING HEARD LOUD AND CLEAR AT THE BALLOT BOX!!!! WE WILL VOTE THESE MARXIST CRIMINALS IN THE DEMOCRAT CONGRESS OUT IN A HEARTBEAT!!! 2009 IN VIR., NJER., AND MASS.WAS JUST THE BEGINNING AND 2012 WHEN WE VOTE OUT HUSSEIN OBAMA AND HIS THUG ADMINISTRATION AND COMMUNIST CZARS. THIS DICTATORSHIP REGIME AND THIER MINIONS IN THE MAIN-STREAM MEDIA WILL GET THE MESSAGE LOUD AND CLEAR IN NOV. AND AGAIN IN 2012. MANY MODERATE DEMOCRATS( WHO’VE LOST THIER PARTY TO THE MARXIST HUSSEIN OBAMA REGIME) AND INDEPENDENTS WILL JOIN OUR CAUSE AND WE WILL “CHANGE BACK” OUR ONCE GREAT NATION TO WHERE IT RIGHTLY BELONGS UNDER OUR CONSTITUTION AND BILL OF RIGHTS. WE WILL GIVE THE POWER BACK TO THE PEOPLE, NOT THE GOVT. NOT THE SNEAKY, GREEDY POLITICIANS, AND NOT THE UNIONS. THE 16,000 NEW IRS AGENTS ARE COMING AFTER THE AVERAGE AMERICAN TO PAY FOR HUSSEIN OBAMA CARE, THEY SHALL BE GIVEN REAL JOBS WHEN WE VOTE THIS THUG REGIME OUT OF OFFICE AND HIS LIBERAL DEMOCRATS IN CONGRERSS OUT IN NOV. WE MUST DO THIS FOR THE SAKE OF OUR KIDS AND GRANDKIDS. GOD BLESS AMERICA!!!

    • Normal Guy

      mike b

      Earth to mike b…Earth to mike b.

      What planet are you on, you really should take your meds. Reality is not so bad, whatever it is that you are trying to express, try a little reality, just because you think that something is happening or because you are afraid of those voices in your head. It does not mean it is true.

      Ask yourself is this true, can I substantiate any of it or is it delusion. Just to get you started most of what you believe is delusion.

      • Joel Johnston

        Dale your post April 12, 2010 at 2:17 pm hits the mark. Very well said. I come to these discussions to share support for democrats and republicans who feel government is in serious need of reform. I could not fathom surfing discussion groups to incite those with diametrically opposing points of view to my own? It leaves me wondering why liberals would post on this site and I am left with the conclusion that they are threatened. Their alacrity to support the socialization of America runs so deep that they would not only bite the hand that feeds but would devour everything. Like a stork that accidentally hatched a crocodile!

        As I envision them as they return home with their “medical” marijuana, bag of chips, and pepsi; surf sites that threaten their sense of self esteem; and play like this is just another video game where they shoot text bullets.

  • angel-wanna-be

    Herman Cain (calls himself Dark Horse)_Watch out 2012__Hell-of-a Speech!__Saw him last night on Hannity__
    Hope link works!
    http://www.viddler.com/explore/rightscoop/videos/22/

  • Joel Johnston

    Our trend toward the current economic crisis clearly evolved through expanded government spending. Simple economics…spend more than you have. If you think the government is unique in this respect consider that the majority of Americans spend beyond their means. While the percentage figures varies greatly by source the general understanding is that lower income groups assumed the lion’s share of unmanageable debt. Interesting how many “victims” this created. Why don’t they all just come out and say that they were stupid and had no control over themselves? Because they assume the victim role and instead of accepting responsibility they voted for socialism to bail them out. Any American that is not prepared to own their failures is a pathetic dishonor to the Americans that worked hard to make this country what it aspires to be under the Constitution.

    • eyeswideopen

      Joel, 73% of tea partiers are on medicare and ss and they don’t want their programs cut. Darn those socialized government programs.
      They all thought they could not contribute to a retirement fund and just rely on the government to support them in later life. Hypocrites galore!!!

      • Palin12

        I’m not on either.

      • GregS

        Eyes,

        1. Where did you get the 73% figure? When you give such specific information, you really should give a link for the source of that infomation. You’re always quick to throw out numbers in your comments, but you seldom, if ever, list sources to support your facts.

        2. Again, how do you know that “[t]hey all thought they could not contribute to a retirement fund…”? You don’t know those people. You have NO way of knowing whether or not these people contributed to separate retirement funds, and are relying on Social Security to supplement their income.

        3. With regard to “…rely[ing] on the government to support them in later life…,” you very conveniently leave out the fact that EVERYONE is FORCED to rely on the government by the very creation of these entitlements in the first place. EVERYONE is FORCED to pay into these programs during their entire working life, only to find out that they won’t get anything close to what they put into it, if anything at all. In case you haven’t heard these programs are in big trouble. And now we have ObamaCare!

      • Palin12

        Lyin Eyes…you’re so stupid it takes you an hour and a half to watch 60 minutes.

        • keith

          damn…..
          hah hah hah hah hah hah hah hah hah hah hee hee,that was fricking funny!!!!!

      • JeffH

        Experience should teach us to be most on our guard to protect liberty when the Government’s purposes are beneficent. Men born to freedom are naturally alert to repel invasion of their liberty by evil-minded rulers. The greatest dangers to liberty lurk in insidious encroachment by men of zeal, well-meaning but without understanding.

        • libertytrain

          I like that one.

      • keith

        i am not on welfare socialist!i am 49 years old and i still work the old fashioned way,you have probably never sweated a whole day for a buck in your friggen life!just from the way you talk i can tell you never have had to work and really sweat to earn a living socialist.i would like to get you for just one day and see you hang hang 40 sheets a day of 12′ 5/8 drywall.you don’t know what real work is.all you do is talk trash.you could’nt hack it on a jobsite where you had to do real work like a man the old fashioned way.your nothing but a wuss!go get a life!!!!!

        • Normal Guy

          Keith

          You are a really ignorant right wing zealot, unbelievably aggressive and opinionated about issues that you have a very limited understanding. People like you are the problem with America, get over the hate learn something about what you are going on about. If I Call you a fascist Nazi, how is that different from you calling people a socialist or a Marxist or a communist.

          If you are going to dish it out you have to be willing to take it. Incidentally you seem to bring up religion and the constitution a lot. Here are a few quotes from our founding fathers regarding religion.

          “Lighthouses are more useful than churches” – Benjamin Franklin
          “This would be the best of all possible worlds if there were no religion in it” – John Adams
          “Christianity is the most perverted system that ever shone on man” – Thomas Jefferson

          So now ranting Keith please tell why these three are wrong or perhaps how you feel about their role in writing our constitution – are they anti Christian evil doers or the brilliant minds that created the foundation for the greatest nation in history? I can’t wait to see this brilliant display of rhetoric.

        • Normal Guy

          Keith – Angry guy

          You are a really ignorant right wing zealot, unbelievably aggressive and opinionated about issues that you have a very limited understanding. People like you are the problem with America, get over the hate learn something about what you are going on about. If I Call you a fascist Nazi, how is that different from you calling people a socialist or a Marxist or a communist.

          If you are going to dish it out you have to be willing to take it. Incidentally you seem to bring up religion and the constitution a lot. Here are a few quotes from our founding fathers regarding religion.

          “Lighthouses are more useful than churches” – Benjamin Franklin
          “This would be the best of all possible worlds if there were no religion in it” – John Adams
          “Christianity is the most perverted system that ever shone on man” – Thomas Jefferson

          So now ranting Keith please tell why these three are wrong or perhaps how you feel about their role in writing our constitution – are they anti Christian evil doers or the brilliant minds that created the foundation for the greatest nation in history? I can’t wait to see this brilliant display of rhetoric.

  • JPW-

    JeffH Iam going to write to my congressman today and have you taken off the welfare role that my tax dollars support.You are not disabled !00% as you claim.You are one of the most qualified riddle writers Sarah P. could hope for.No more free ride for you at taxpayers expense.

    • eyeswideopen

      JPW, laughing out loud. I guess our taxpayer dollars are also funding his internet access? Or maybe he is leaching off of his friends who took him in? God Bless those socialized government programs.

      • coal miner

        Eyes,

        I like to know,is Jeff 100% mentally disable or just another welfare bum too lazy to work.HA HA HA

        • coal miner

          Coal,

          I forgot the question mark.

        • JeffH

          Unintelligent people always look for a scapegoat.

      • JeffH

        Beware of too much laughter, for it deadens the mind and produces oblivion.

    • coal miner

      JPW,

      Right,I am tired of keeping his welfare cheating ass up.Our money paid for that second handed computer of his.He got that at Goodwill.We tax payers got rights too.Ha HA HA

      • JeffH

        I would prefer even to fail with honor than to win by cheating

    • JeffH

      Advertising – a judicious mixture of flattery and threats.

  • http://google mike b.

    Thanks again Hussein Obama!!! You are really uniting the american people as the mainstream media promised you would. Just look at how united american has become since Hussein Obama and his thug administration has been elected. Look at the tea-party protest and the manufactured union-led counter protest. Look at rich vs. poor, tax-payers vs. tax-cheats(which include Gietner and half of this juvinile administration), workers vs. free-loaders. The intensity of the division in america today is scary. Socialist vs. Constitutionalist, Marxist vs. Capitalist, Public sector vs. Private sector. Hussein Obama is dividing this country like never before and he loves it!!! I hope im wrong but it may just be a matter of time before one of these protest vs. counter-protest turns violent. Hussein Obama is a joke of a leader and he and his party will pay for it in the 2010 and 2012 elections, just watch. Vote these communits thugs out for the sake of our kids and grandkids. Just look at this website for further proof of Hussein Obama dividing the people and scaring a vast majority of the people with his radical policies he learned from alinski, and the rev. wright who said quote(gd america, not god bless america but gd america) and on 9/11 america’s chickens have come to roost. Hussein Obama listened to this vile, hatred retoric for 20 years in the church of rev. wright and is now spreading it throughout america. The media also loves this crap as it gives them a reason to cover this division and bash christian-conservatives and tea-party members. Pray for america now and hope we can stay safe despite this anti-american thug Hussein Obama and his minions in the criminal, liberal democrat congress. GOD BLESS AMERICA!!!

  • puddlejumpr

    A small self govment is what is needed. Repubs,Dems,Independs, all alike. They are the problem and we the people let this happen. Now we stand up and those on the recipient side scoff why not give me more. Me I’m tired of paying for something I don’t receive. All the elites say its what the American want. They never faced me and asked that question. They spend what we don’t have but, make sure they are excluded from paying the bill. Taxes are Tyranny just ask the man that had to lay off that person he employed for 20 or 30 years of service and really had no choice. The United States congress is out of control and it is our time now to Stop them. They watched us when we just said all is well. They themselves knew very well that no one cared so lets do what we want. They call themselves Americans, that’s a Lie another one on the list. They live in a dream world. I say lettem’ pay for it. I and my family and friends are awake now so Congress, Senate, Obama bring it on. No more turning our backs and saying all is well. Capitalism is Boss not communism. You who care listen to there lies and then show it to them at the polls. Let us gather and take Our Country back and put those against a Small Self Limited Govment on notice. Don’t just wait till november do it now. Talk to people, Show people, Listen to people, but make sure they understand what will and can happen if We The People just turn our backs on America. This might sound like a lot of hot air but, the blast we are fixing to receive will be worse. I waited and did nothing just like others but, NO MORE!!!!!!!!!

    • keith

      AMEN!

  • Norm
    • JeffH

      Most Americans agree with the Tea Parties

      Contrary to everything we’re being told by the news media, the numbers show that the Tea Parties represent the vast majority of Americans, who are rightly furious with what Nancy Pelosi insisted would be “the most honest, open, ethical Congress in history.”

      There is a reason Democrats had to spend a full year brow-beating and bribing their own super-majority into voting for ObamaCare.

      For those who somehow weren’t tipped off by what happened in Virginia, New Jersey, Massachusetts, the town halls and virtually every poll for the last year, the overwhelming majority of Americans oppose Obama’s Constitution-trampling war on free market health care.
      Most Americans agree with the Tea Parties on limited government and on virtually every economic issue, whether it be deficit spending, unemployment, the bailouts, taxes…everything (see here). Most Americans also agree with conservatives on national defense, abortion, gun rights…you name it.

      Even ultra-liberal states like California voted overwhelmingly against gay marriage and illegal immigration
      http://www.examiner.com/x-35976-Conservative-Examiner~y2010m3d25-Mainstream-America-agrees-with-the-Tea-Parties

      • GregS

        Amen, Jeff!

    • GregS

      “Tea baggers?” Your name-calling, demonizing tactics clearly show your fear of what’s to come. Everyone knows the NY Times leans to the left on just about everything. The REAL story will be told in November.

  • Merl Elton

    So sad to see people willing to give up their freedom and be led around like sheep for hollow promises, small comforts, and small change. This is why socialists/progressives want millions here from hardship countries who will appreciate any meager crumbs and faint rays of sun provided; and by their numbers and voting power lead
    the rest into servitude, mediocrity, and a false sense of dependency and entitlement; thus undermining the spirit, strength, health, and
    character of America and its people. Weak and dependent people are so much easier to manage and force the will upon.

    • GregS

      Well said, Merl!

  • Merl Elton

    All thugs do is suck and leave the giver dry and drained of life, strength, energy, and spirit. Then the thugs become strong and prey upon the their givers. There is no real gratitude. Happens practically all the time. Denniso has not yet learned this lesson. So, when you give, give wisely and where there is true need and not greed.

  • http://PersonalLibertyDigest Linda

    The only racists in this country are black they are the only ones throwing that word around, I never even knew what that meant until I moved to the city, they are not happy with all the things that are handed to them all they want is more,more,more,more and for nothing, I really cannot stand it why do they not go back to their wonderful Africa where genocide is going on everyday where they have to grub around jusst to eat and where their fellow black men treat them like garbage, why tell me why.

  • American patriot and fighting man

    You say, The Tea Party took root early in 2009 in response to the massive government spending policies? I say The Tea Party took root early in 2009 in response to being bad losers and members of the Republican party to a better person than their selfish selves losing to Barack Obama and the Democrats.

    • GregS

      We’ll see who the “bad losers” and “selfish selves” are in November!

  • Earl, QUEENS, NY

    As always, I’m tired of all the BS we hear from democraps perpetuating the myth that the GOP wants to steal from the poor to give to the rich. GET REAL!! It’s not just the rich who are overtaxed. Even if you earn minimum wage 40 hours a week, you still have to pay taxes – even more if your parents claim you as a dependent. Likewise, if you’re single earning minimum wage, you earn too much to be eligible for food stamps, Medicaid and other benefits. And whether you earn minimum wage or a few million, a good portion of it is going to wealth redistribution.

    It’s one thing to have a safety net to help those who can’t help themselves, or temporary assistance to those truly in need, e.g., those who’ve lost jobs due to this never ending recession which we can thank BHO and his democraps for. Were it not for them, there’d be a lot less need for the safety net. The GOP is not against the safety net, which is only a small portion of wealth redistribution costs. What we DO NOT appreciate is the idea of taking from producers to give to non producers, moochers and drones who don’t want to help themselves, but instead only want to take the fruits of other people’s labor. Why pity moochers and drones who never earned their entitlements or handouts in the first place??!!

    Again I have to say I’m tired of all the BS we hear from democraps perpetuating the “Robin Hood in Reverse” myth that the GOP wants to steal from the poor to give to the rich just because the GOP wants to let producers at all income levels keep more of what they earn instead of confiscating it to give away to drones and moochers. If they really are so against ‘Feeding the Rich and Starving the Poor’, then why don’t they target the real culprits?? A good and real example could be labor unions, such as the one I had to belong to when I was in Connecticut a decade ago. The members worked for substandard (probably collusive sweetheart contract) wages, and out of those low wages were forced to pay initiation fees and dues which added up to more than the CT state income tax. But union officials collect multiple salaries and drive around in silver Cadillacs (Not including any money received as payoffs or bribes in collusive contract deals!!). Isn’t that allowing the rich to steal from the poor?? If the democraps really care about workers, why don’t they support right-to-work laws instead of siding with crooked unions??

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