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Swine Flu A Dud—Unless You’re Big Pharma

March 15, 2010 by  

Swine Flu A Dud—Unless  You’re Big Pharma

The great swine flu hoax is finally fizzling out.

Aside from an occasional public service announcement there is almost no mention of swine flu—or H1N1—in the media today. No more Kathleen Sebelius telling you to cough into your bent arm, no more government hucksters urging you get vaccinated.

And curiously, in the mainstream media there is no reflection on the “pandemic” as we approach the one-year anniversary of the first reports coming out of Mexico. Or maybe it’s not so curious after all.

It was last April that the outbreak began in Veracruz, Mexico. The mainstream media went nuts, providing daily tallies of infections and deaths from around the globe as it followed the spread of the so-called deadly disease. There were quarantines in Hong Kong and people wearing surgical masks in South America, China and Japan.

It wasn’t long before the World Health Organization (WHO) was proclaiming it a crisis in the making and predicting deaths in the millions worldwide—2 million in the United States alone.

Billions of tax dollars were sent to the largest drug manufacturers—GlaxoSmithKline, Roche and Novartis—to develop a vaccine. Governments quickly passed legislation absolving Big Pharma from any liability if people were harmed in the taking of the vaccines. And then Big Pharma foisted a harmful vaccine on the public.

Officials from all levels of government went to the media first encouraging, the suggesting and, finally, threatening to order people to take the vaccines. Early on people lined up hoping to get vaccinated but became frustrated when manufacturers failed to meet their quotas. Later, people stayed away in droves. In the end, more people stayed away than were vaccinated.

If you invested in GlaxoSmithKline, Roche or Novartis a year ago, pat yourself on the back. Either you were lucky, prescient or in on the scheme. You and your companies have made a killing. The stock prices of these companies were in a precipitous slide at the end of March 2009, and have each almost—or even more than—doubled since, thanks to the multi-billion dollar injections they received from government.

If you were one of the gullible public that subjected yourself to the harmful vaccine and came away unscathed, thank your lucky stars. Some weren’t so lucky and contracted Guillain-Barré syndrome and other afflictions. Many who had the vaccine saw no deleterious effects, but contracted swine flu anyway. However, the consequences of the harmful materials contained in the vaccines may not be known for years.

Here’s what we do know. The total number of swine flu-related deaths worldwide is around 14,000. And the number is only this high because WHO and Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) changed the way the deaths were classified. To put that in perspective, about 36,000 die in the U.S. each year from seasonal flu. And about 100,000 a year die in this country from the effects of Food and Drug Administration (FDA)-approved drugs.

And here’s something else to consider—and something the U.S. mainstream media isn’t telling you. In January 2010, Professor Ulrich Keil, the director of the WHO’s Collaborating Centre for Epidemiology told the Parliamentary Assembly of the Council of Europe (PACE) “governments wasted huge amounts of money by investing in pandemic scenarios whose evidence base is weak.”

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PACE’s Health Committee Chairman, Dr. Wolfgang Wodarg, a former German lawmaker, medical doctor and epidemiologist, called the swine flu pandemic one of the greatest medical scandals of the century. Speaking on the Alex Jones radio program, Wodarg called it a hoax manufactured by the pharmaceutical companies in league with the WHO to make vast profits while endangering the public health. (prisonplanet.com)

And Wodarg told the U.K Daily Mail, “The governments have sealed contracts with vaccine producers where they secure orders in advance and take upon themselves almost all the responsibility. In this way the producers of vaccines are sure of enormous gains without having any financial risks. So they just wait until WHO says ‘pandemic’ and activate the contracts.”

Wodarg also told the Daily Mail that to further push their interests, leading drug companies placed “their people” in the “cogs” of the WHO and other influential organizations.

To its credit, Time magazine ran an article in January 2010, that touched on Wodarg’s comments. So its couple of thousand subscribers—and a few thousand more patients in doctor and dentist offices—had access to the truth. But the magazine also included the typical government propaganda that people should still be vaccinated and a third wave of the “pandemic” could be in the offing.

The Time article also contains this curious tidbit:

“The current glut of vaccines in rich nations may at least prove useful to the 95 countries in the developing world that have no access to vaccines, 86 of which have written to the WHO requesting help obtaining supplies. The WHO already has 200 million doses for such countries, and the first doses of that stockpile arrived in Mongolia and Azerbaijan this month. These doses will be supplemented by bilateral deals: France, for example, plans to sell 2 million vaccine doses at cost to Egypt and 300,000 to Qatar, according to a report in the Parisien newspaper.

It appears that even in developing nations, however, the need for vaccines is not overwhelming. Despite fears that H1N1 would hit developing nations hardest, the pandemic is unfolding in those countries “in a similar pattern” to that in the developed world, says (WHO’s special advisor on pandemic influenza Dr. Keiji) Fukuda—which is to say with relatively few deaths. In fact, some developing countries, particularly in West Africa, are reporting lower rates of infection than in the developed world.

Which begs the question: why would developing countries waste what little money they have on a useless vaccine to treat a disease that’s not infecting or killing people as predicted?

The scam has been a boon to at least one British official and one CDC official. The Daily Mail reports that Sir Roy Anderson, a scientist that advises the British government on swine flu, holds a well-paying job on the board of GlaxoSmithKline.

Dr. Julie Gerberding, the former head of the CDC, recently left that organization for a lucrative job as president of Merck’s global vaccine operations. With that in mind, watch for the announcement of the next pandemic and, when it comes, consider jumping on Merck stock. That company obviously doesn’t want to get caught out of the loop again.

Just don’t take the vaccine next time. As we’ve told you before, vaccines are useless, inefficient and dangerous.

And if you don’t believe me, maybe the words of Dr. Shiv Chopra will convince you. Chopra has worked for European drug companies and served for 20 years as an advisor to the Canadian equivalent of the FDA. He recently told Dr. Joseph Mercola (mercola.com):

“No flu vaccine has ever worked. Swine flu, we don’t even know there is such a thing. It’s a misnomer. Avian [bird] flu, these are all made-up things. The whole thing is a hoax. It has been for the last 10 years. First they started with the avian flu, and then swine flu.”

“Who is the Directorate General of the WHO to say that ‘I’m raising it to pandemic level No. 6?’ Based on what? At the same time, from the same sources, we’re receiving information that we think sooner or later, the virus is going to mutate. We don’t know when but it is going to. How did they know that? How do they come to that conclusion?

“Then we hear the new virus H1N1 has components: the bird flu, H5N1, or the other way around. When you use these kinds of numbers and technical words, it frightens people because they don’t understand what H or N stands for. They take people’s words for it and the media picks it up and then starts to say, ‘This is very different. This is entirely different. This has components of the 1918 flu and the bird flu. It also has the swine flu.’

“And you go around in Mexico and you get H1N1 in the swine right now. So you make six, eight or 10 different drugs, different vaccines as many as the companies, and then you say, ‘Some will be live and they’ll be given in the nose, some will be killed, some will have adjuvants like squalene oils.’

“…And some people are being given nasal vaccine, so that means a live virus. If you’re putting a drop in the nose like you put the drop of polio in the mouth, then those are the portals of entry that obviously mean this is a live virus. If it’s a live virus, then you actually may be creating a pandemic with whatever you manufactured in the laboratory. If it’s a live virus then that’s what could happen.”

How is that for government incompetence? They predicted a pandemic, they hyped it in order to scare people into taking an untested vaccine, they enlisted government hacks, celebrities and a willing media to spread their propaganda, they deliberately infected people with a live virus and still they couldn’t make their pandemic meet their goals.

Bob Livingston

is an ultra-conservative American and author of The Bob Livingston Letter™, founded in 1969. Bob has devoted much of his life to research and the quest for truth on a variety of subjects. Bob specializes in health issues such as nutritional supplements and alternatives to drugs, as well as issues of privacy (both personal and financial), asset protection and the preservation of freedom.

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  • SiliconDoc

    It’s amazing is it not ? Our government is not only corrupt, a lot, probably most, are either to be called incompetent or insane. The only other conclusion is they are spineless and therefore corrupt.
    I heard with multiple confirmations very early on that 36,000 Americans die from the regular flu every year – so I knew from the start it was a scam.
    This is another example of the complete lack of fiscal responsibility and even common sense, or basic adult knowledge in DC.

    • s c

      SiliconDoc, you were very polite in estimating the true worth of our ‘leaders.’ At long last, the cat is out of the bag, and even diehard libs are having to admit that Washington is simply another word for utter corruption.
      In the case of Kathleen Sebelius, I’m wondering which job was easier to get (governor or that of an Obummer suck-up). Once again, Americans need to take a hard look at the new prez – and everyone in his space cadet administration.
      Is it not yet obvious that Obummer wants a sheep-like populace to do anything he wants? Sooner or later, people like Obummer will find a way to end all elections. That is, if we’re not ‘smart’ enough to do what elected, useful idiots want, then they can elect themselves and no longer go through the motions of needing anyone to vote for them (and that includes dead people).
      Do you think the individuals and groups stupid enough to pour hundreds of millions of dollars (and more) into Obummer’s campaign are wondering if they’ll see a return on their investment?

      • denniso

        Swine flue is not necessarily over…viruses hang around,mutate and usually return. There were many deaths around the country of otherwise healthy people,which is what set this virus apart and scared people into maybe an overreaction.
        If it is wrong for ‘big gov’t’ to suggest to our highly compact and connected society to cough into your arm rather than you hand,then you’ve got some paranoia issues you should see someone about.
        And you want to blame ‘big gov’t’ for the scare and encouraging people to get vaccines…If anything,this could point to the corporate control of our gov’t,not to a problem w/ so called ‘big gov’t’. Livingston doesn’t think that we should get any vaccines? How about smallpox,polio and more killer diseases that spread misery for eons before vaccines were developed? Should we stop all vaccines because,fortunately, the vaccine and precautions for swine flu prevented an epidemic?? Such nonsense…

        • Publius

          Get serious. The danger of flu vaccinations is that the “flu” is a virus that easily mutates. This means that each year’s vaccine is a new and untested product. The ultimate silliness is that the vaccine manufacturers are taking what amounts to a wild guess at what the next flu will be like. Anyway, it’s the variability of the flu virus that makes it a difficult target to shoot at. The same is true of the common cold and is why nobody has developed a cure for it. Vaccines against bacterial diseases and stable viruses have proved useful and have been refined to the point of being safe. (?)
          The real scare is that the flu of WW I which killed more of our soldiers than the war will return. However, we did not have the technology back then to analyze that virus, so we wouldn’t recognise it if it bit us on the nose.

          • denniso

            So,you’re a scientist and you declare that flu vaccines don’t work or do any good??? You’re actually a kook spouting nonsense.

          • DaveH

            Denniso,
            Nobody comes close to the nonsense you spout. You are just an Ignorant Liberal Zealot who will defend anything Big Government does.

            But that’s okay with me, as everybody on this board, who has half-a-brain, knows that your comments are nothing more substantial than personal attacks.

        • Curtis

          obviously you work for the government!!!!

        • RobertP

          denisso, you must be a close aid (or something) within the government as I always see you taking the other side no matter how ridiculous it is. If it was discovered that BO was a child molester in years past, you would probably defend him by saying that he isn’t guilty of any wrong-doing because “maybe, he was just responding to some urgent need of his inner being, and we should all just understand that….. ”
          Gezzus!!

          • denniso

            I may always take ‘the other side’ because your side is nonsense…I try to inject a little reasoning and logic and common sense into a site mostly full of extremist no-nothings and conspiracy theorists…theorists being too good a word for it.

          • JeffH

            dennisso, it’s good to know you have a sense of humor afterall. After reading your comment, I fell over laughing at the biggest joke I’ve read in decades.
            Who are you fooling here besides yourself? answer: no one!

          • denniso

            Robert…do you mean like when you rightwingers found out that Cheny/Bush lied and exaggerated about WMD in Iraq and manipulated and fearmongered and invaded and killed 100,000 or more innocent civilians,and over 4,500 U.S. soldiers, and you still support the war criminals? Is that what you mean?
            I’ve asked this before,but, where were you anti gov’t and tea party people when Cheny/Bush were doing that and wrecking the budget and leading us into this economic collapse???The answer is,as all who can think clearly know, you were all blindly loyal to your party and idiot leader. As soon as a Dem is prez you jump up and acuse him of all sorts of treasonous acts and idiotic slander…You all are so transparently partisan it’s laughable.

          • DaveH

            Logic and Reasoning, Denniso? Is that what Liberals call personal attacks and conjecture?
            Just keep Hoping and Dreaming that your comments are logical, Denniso.

        • Mike In MI

          denniso -

          So, lot of “otherwise healthy people died”,eh? “Healthy” by whose definition? What in heaven’s name is so “healthy” about a bunch of people whose defenses, minds and learning are so weak they can’t fight off every opportunistic bug they bump into? The world so full of good information about health and how to keep it one might be tempted to think they wanted to get sick. They had to take every opportunity they could to avoid health information, avoid healthy practices and avoid spending their welfare money to buy decent food, hygeine or information. Couldn’t they peel themselves away from the TV long enough to do anything to be stronger, healthier, better off?

          Those welfare porkers don’t want to be anything except provided for. They get plenty of funding for booze, tobacco, drugs, porn, sex and anything else guaranteed to keep them “the downtrodden poor” and dependent. OH, but, don’t anybody try to tell them how to spend it or even make a helpful suggestion. About all they’re good for is a focus for vermin, vectors for diseases and votes for Progressives. Each one of them sucks up about $40K – $50K per year.

          Oh, but, “don’cha know it’s them ‘rich guys’ Obama tells us about who keep us sick, suppressed, depressed and fat. They owe me, I’m entitled to ….” Obama’s kids.

          • denniso

            You’re nothing but ridiculous,dude…you think that all the people,kids included,who died from swine flu were ‘gov’t porkers’???You’re disgusting and a joke and should know it.

          • Bob Wire

            I have a sister-in-law that came down with it ~ while she was working a booth at the Texas State Fair. She was in ICU for 37 days, at one point they had her in a bed that rotated , much like a rotisserie, this retarded the fluid build-up for settling in one place and her drowning of consumption. The bed alone was 5,000.00 a day, just the bed. Her room looked like something from Nasa.

            needless to say, she almost died! And of course, she is now very,very broke but alive.

            There was a organization that donated 7 days of rehab, as it took everything she had to stay alive and had to learn to use her arms and legs again. Having fought so hard to live, they seen her at a good investment and worthy their consideration.

            Well the virus is certainly no joke.

        • momof4

          denniso,
          You are so smart if only I could be just like you.

          • DaveH

            Then, like Denniso, you could also do cool things like rolling over and playing dead.

    • DaveH

      It is yet another example of why we can’t leave control of our lives in the hands of Big Government. We must make every effort to turn this Leviathan Government back to the size that our Founders envisioned. And that means people of both left and right need to start respecting each other’s Freedom to control their own Bodies and own Property!
      Vote Libertarian:
      http://libertarianparty.org/platform

      • Louie

        DavidH,(and others) You are soooooo right! In light of how Obama and friends handled this one, how can one expect any better, cost effective, results for their “health care redistribution plan”!

        • s c

          Never let it be said that I’m not willing to do my bit. Covering my mouth when sneeze is no big trick. However, I’m still working on being able to cover my sneeze and release an appropriate flatulent whoosh.
          Like all things, it takes a while to perfect it. Whe I have perfected it, I expect to go straight to the top of Obummer’s no-sneeze, politically correct flatulent czar list.
          What will my salary be? I am so looking forward to having cadillac healthcare, while the rest of the mortals get stuck with Obummercare.

      • JeffH

        DaveH, if memory serves me right, you called this one when it started.

        • JeffH

          I might add this for DenNISSO…you always take the “bad side” because you are obviously a “bad person”, but more than that, you never waste any time with your silly nonsense and liberal hacking rhetoric which is never backed with any facts, other than your own.

    • lou

      I stand in awe at some of the things our government pulls! I cannot believe grown, educated (most are lawyers – Harvard, Yale, etc.) people that we have elected to take care of our country and to actually take care of us are so corrupt, so lazy, they don’t even trust EACH OTHER! And as far as President–we don’t have one! Not really. He is the biggest disappointment I think I’ve had in all my years. I really work at staying informed and trying to keep things straight that are going on in our country, but I get so mad sometimes, I can’t even remember the things that are said. Guess it doesn’t make too much difference….most of it is lies anyway and it will change tomorrow anyway. I am so ashamed of our leaders! Crooks, Liars, Sex deviates, adulters. Every day is a new scandal. We’ve become a big joke around the world – Other countries now point a finger at us and laugh. They can’t take us seriously – we can’t handle our finances, can’t handle our deficits – borrowing money hand over fist – all I can say, you’d better all buy a rice steamer because I think you’ll be eating alot of rice if things keep going like they are. Sorry for the soap box oration, but I get so upset! I just hope I live long enough to see our country pull itself together again. ML

    • Meteorlady

      No this was the result of some highly invested politicians in the drug companies. They never would have done anything like this unless it was to feather their own beds. I cannot wait for more government run health care. Gads – what a mess we have with these people in office.

  • http://na chuck

    It is close to the time for the sleeping lion to awake.

    • JeffH

      chuck, the lion is growling and has already roared in NJ, Virginia and Massachusetts. One head of the multiheaded snake is being cut off already in Nevada and if the polls are even half right, major heads will be bitten off in Congress in November. Always remember that this multi headed snake DNA shows it contains both major political parties.

  • Richard Murray

    Why, pray tell, did our wise and caring president Barry create a national state of emergency? What was his motive? Is this edict still in effect?

    • Pat R

      I have always believed that the “Swine Flu” is a laboratory produced virus created solely for “population reduction”. This was no overnight
      incident! Baxter Pharmaceuticals already had a vaccine ready and waiting
      (since 2006), yet the government spent billions of dollars to develop new ones, slated to kill more of the population!
      Just my personal thoughts on the subject!!!!!

      • Curtis

        You are so right!!!I think this was a prelude to what is really coming!!

    • RobertP

      The only edict was to bring in $$$millions$$$ of government (taxpayer) money to these Big Pharma companies. And of course, what can the people say when it comes to “playing it safe” with the public health….

    • Cricket

      It is my understanding as long as the United States is under national state of emergency.. Then we cannot elect a new President. The sitting President can keep his position till the Emergency is lifted & of course that would be at his discretion. These people know exactly what & how they need to do things.. And sooner or later those that oppose will become the terrorist themselves. House wife’s, students,priest,cops,grandpa’s any one who objects to a take over of the United States of America. Sound radical? Stay tuned for future developments

      • http://boblivingston Erik

        Hey cricket,I agree with you 100%! I’ve been sayingt this for a long time.That’s why obama does’nt care what he does.Everybody in this country will get a real rude wakeup call!

      • Dennis

        Cricket i’ve been saying the same thing to family, friends and coworkers, every sence he said he was 5 days away from fundamentally changing America thats the ONE time he didn’t lie. I can’t beleave that Americans follow this —he is a communist.

  • http://www.americairemember.com angel-wanna-be

    How convienient the Libby News media reporting about the H1N1 virus just happened to be around the time Obambi’s Health Care was beginning to be pushed__My husband said too_He thought it was a all a hoax__I’ll bet the doctors were having a hay day with the fear of the Hypochondriacs___The 6 year old Daughter of a friend of ours, was alledgedly diagnosed with it, and her symptoms were no worse than the regular flu__Just more of Washington’s Hysteria & Hype!__It was a good distraction from Washingtons antics too!

    • DaveH

      And it’s so convenient for Government and the Doctors that many people will just assume that, having been vaccinated, they were protected from a flu that they probably weren’t going to get in the first place. How does a person prove differently? It is like arguing religion to say ‘what might have been’.

      • http://www.americairemember.com angel-wanna-be

        Dave H, Ya really can’t prove it, the old man and I decided we’d take our change and not get vaccinated_ and we as a millions of other folks seemed to so far to have survived with out it_ It’s like I said before, ya just can’t trust anyone___you’ve just got to listen to ALL the rhetoric and try and draw a happy medium and hope like hell your decision is right!__lol___Besides I’ve had the flu shot twice and got sick as heck with it_forget that!

      • Mike In MI

        DaveH – Yes, you can say it with about 95% accuracy!!!

        If you’re taking 2,000 mg to 3,000 mg of Vitamin C, 4,000 IU of Vitamin D3 and a 1000 mg Conjugated Linoleic Acid (or the daily recommendation of Omega 3 oil) that regimen all fall through to spring will cost you less than one day off work or a visit to your MD.
        Best of all you won’t need to risk the poisons in any vaccine or the damage vacines do to brain and immune functions.

        It sets up nearly total immunity to almost any viral, bacterial or fungal organism likely to come down the pike at you. Not only will it set your immune system in order it will help reduce diabetes problems, reduce cardiovasc/cholesterol numbers and a long way to reducing parameters that set up a list of cancer risks.

  • dLegend

    SO….Let’s be SERIOUS….

    HOW MUCH DID BARRY SOETORO MADE FROM ALL THE HYPE ????

    • Meteorlady

      Depends on how much he had invested with the drug companies and you can bet he did in some “blind” trust.

  • J C

    There is no way I’m allowing anyone in my family to take whatever rubber stamped serum is being pushed on any given day. Viral influenza mutates from person to person, how are we supposed to believe that a one size fits all vaccine is actually going to work?
    It is quite simply the result of some very extensive lobbying from the biggest lobby in Congress. It’s a money grab and completely ineffective.

    • DaveH

      What we need to be very vigilant about is the Public (Propaganda) Schools forcing vaccines on our children. And they have absolutely no legs to stand on when they try to take that control from the parents. The only excuse I’ve heard from them that has any semblance of validity is that if a child isn’t vaccinated he/she might catch and spread the disease to other children. And that isn’t valid! Because the only children that would theoretically be in danger would be those whose parents refused to let their childrens’ bodies be an experimental laboratory for the Liberal Vaccine Forcers. Of course, if the vaccine didn’t work, then the vaccinated children would be in danger also, but I don’t think I need to explain the fallacy of that.

      We need to fight hard to take our Freedom back from those Big Government Usurpers.

      • Raggs

        Yeah and not to mention the government nor the pharmies are liable for the side effects or the death of people you take the vaccine.

      • Cathie

        Dave, You are so right about the public schools. My son attends a public high school and the county school officials pushed the H1N1 vaccine. I sent a form opting my son out of getting the vaccination. I received calls weekly about the need to get the vaccination. I am not sure if they targeted those of us who said “No thank you!” or were calling all parents. But the push was really on! According to my son, most of his classmates ended up getting the vaccination. He has no knowledge of anyone having the swine flu before the innoculations began. I had suspicions from the get go that this was all hype for the Big Pharma’s to make huge amounts of profit on our tax dollars! This will certainly not be the last–expect it to be ongoing…

  • Brad

    After retiring from the U.S. Navy, having shot after shot to keep myself healthy, when this H1N1 scare was broad cast it was hard to believe at first. When people started getting the H1N1 vaccine in my neck of the woods with a few early repoprts of severe reactions to the vaccine, both my wife and I new the vaccine was no good. So we made a consious decision not to get us and our kids vacinated, but got the kids their regular flu shots. We are doing great, but seems to me our current administration blew this thing out of proportion, but the big drug companies made millions now didn’t they, but at what cost to general public?

    • Joe H.

      Brad,
      When I was in the Army, the flu shot was mandatory. I got it for three years and ended up in the hospital three times. they finally gave me a profile against it. I haven’t had a shot in 40 years and haven’t had the flu since!!!!! Seems kinda screwy doesn’t it?????

      • DaveH

        It is downright scary to me. When we let the government forcibly inject foreign substances into our bodies, we have just plain become “Subjects” not “Citizens”.

        One conundrum I have never figured out is why an Enlisted man who is going to be fighting for our countries Freedom, must give up his/her own? Personally, I find it difficult to believe that people who are willing to give up their own Freedom are going to fight hard for mine.

        It is just one more scam that our Government Leaders perpetrate on the Citizens.

    • skipfoss

      And just think about how much Ovomit and his comrades made of of this scam. I’d say they got a real good percentage to put in their pocket

    • Mike In MI

      Brad and family -

      The cost was huge, you can bet on it. But, at least you kept your heads under control and didn’t fall for the bad medical advice to get the vaccine. Your wisdom might well have saved your kids from serious vaccine injury that lurks in any vaccine that they cook up like influenza – “yearly” or special. The reason is any viral disease that has the potential to get into the nervous system and attack nerves – like flu, measles… several of them, can severely impact the brain or immune system, crippling various of their functions.

      You can set your family’s immune systems in about a 85% to 90% safe place with good diet and about 2,000 to 4,000 International Units per day of Vitamin D3. 2,000 IU for children graduated up to 4,000 per day for adults. Start well before the fall school year starts when they get exposed to everthing under the sun going around. One of the wisest things I ever did was become a member of Life Extension Foundation (www.lef.org). They have a bunch of very valuable member services and assistants to advise on your own and family health matters. It’ll save you a bunch and out of the clutches of an increasingly frantic medical care system that often advises patients to do things they won’t do to themselves or families.

      You and your wife get convinced together on what you can learn and do. The schools are full of ignorant government functionaires who will fight you tooth and nail – against your best interests on many issues. We grew up just floating along – thinking the government was great, on our side, benign, helpful. Well that American government is not very recognizeable anymore. For your kids sake, GET TOUGH MINDED and be ready to stand up for, with – and sometimes (WITH KIDS) – to them. Find and get tight with a bunch of church, neighborhood, community friends – whatever – who you can stand together with against what will be coming if BOMB’R’CARE passes. Start soon.

      God bless you in your efforts.

  • David J. Baldwin

    What’s the difference between the Boy Scouts and the Federal Government?

    The Boy Scouts have adult leadership!

  • Raggs

    The use of a scare tactic to influence the public.
    Well let’s see who else did this…. Oh yeah Hitler.

    • http://www.americairemember.com angel-wanna-be

      Obama learned well!

  • TIME

    Makes me want to run out and get a shot for of something; don’t you?
    Hey next year lets do the “Mad Monkey Flu,” under the name,
    B1 He1 U1 2.

    Also just in A new feture movie is coming out this summer called;
    {The Sick, the Dead, and the ganna be Sick.}

    • http://www.americairemember.com angel-wanna-be

      This hype all worked before the people started to become wise to it__We can’t beieve anything Washington says anymore_we have to watch what they do__you can bet your a** if Washington Says one thing_they’re probably doing something just the opposite!

      • DaveH

        We never could believe those in positions of power. If we can’t do the necessary work to make our own lives happy, can we really expect some remote Politician to not only care for himself but also put forth the extra effort to care for us?

  • LindyMaeUSA

    Good morning Friends and Neighbors!

    This government and it’s endless list of cruel corporate creeps continue capitalizing on the “Hysteria-Mode” of the GENERAL PUBLIC who mostly, have absolutely no scientific knowledge about such ridiculous claims the MSM (Main-Slime-Media) “programs and brain-washes” us with!

    I still remember Flyers circulated in our small town last Spring about the “Killer H1N1 Vaccine being dangerous and lethal.” I did some research and vowed “no one will force me to be jabbed with that garbage!” which I learned was/is a deliberate, merciless scheme by Big Pharma to “fill their coffers even more!” plus help NWO “reduce our population” on down the line with subsequent diseases and illness resulting from the H1N1 concoction!

    This government’s “Gargantuan of GREED” continues to grow every day like an insatiable demon!

    “A greedy man is NEVER satisfied!”
    ~The Proverbs of King Solomon

    • California70

      It seems to me it is much easier to cause “Hysteria-Mode” in the general public today than it was 30,40, or 50, years ago because the general public has become so “Nuerotic” and gullible. You guys on this site, seem to really have-it-together in terms of thinking-for-yourselves. It is refreshing to read all your responses.

      • California70

        sorry for the spelling I meant neurotic.

        • TIME

          Calie,
          No big deal, spelling is a frame of mind. Your point is what counts
          and thats very clear.

  • Michelle

    These pandemics are all a hoax, and people want to trust their health care to the government? What other hoax will they then force upon us because they are in control, what other vaccines will be required because they run our health coverage? How deep to these corrupt ties go? Beware, H1N1 was a hoax, and how the deciding vote of the future of our health care is at stake. I surely don’t want to trust the government with my health, do you?

    • Raggs

      He wants a national health care so he can force a national I.D card on us.

      • California70

        Lindsay Graham has just come up with a National I.D. Card scheme this last week. I hope you are all watching the news. Even FOX news, O’Reilly (I’m watching out for you)the Harvard graduate, thinks it’s a good idea. I wonder who O’Reilly is really watching out for (himself maybe)? Obviously, it’s not me or you.

        Maybe Gore Vidal had it right, pick the first 20 people listed in the phone book and they would do a better job of governing than all these Harvard Graduates (socialist/communists) that are now in office.

    • Cathie

      Michelle, The other hoax is the healthcare reform! Certainly we need health COST reform but the government is the last one to be involved in controlling costs of anything! There are ways the free market can control costs, but the gov’t has to get out of the way and let it happen. There is no health CARE crisis! That is a lie that the general public has heard so often, we began to accept it as the truth. Yes, there are millions of people in this country who are not insured–but guess what? That has ALWAYS been the case. There is no crisis here. The crisis will come later if this healthcare reform is passed. It will come in the form of a bankrupt USA whose citizens have given up most of their liberty and forgotten how to make decisions and be responsible for themselves and their families!

      • California70

        Healthcare was always “affordable” until the government came up with Medicare. Since then, health costs have gone thru-the-roof. They are the ones who have caused the cost of healthcare to soar. Therefore, if this healthcare bill passes…..it will bankrupt the Country. That would give total control to the government. Hmmmm.

        • Ed Nowak

          It’s the greedy corporations that are to blame, not the government! Who do you think controls the government. Get a dictionary and look up fascism. That’s what we have in this country.
          Democracy? Free Enterprise? Yeah, and for whose benefit? Give me a break!

  • DaveH

    Thank you Bob Livingston for exposing this scam to your readers.

  • Mike In MI

    HOboy Where to begin on this sort of crazy-government inspired, plotted and promulgated, kick the people in the head kind of propagandistic nightmare inspired by the same people at the top who are trying to bring you, tada-da-dumpta-da, bszzzzzrzzzrzzrzzzsh, BOMB’R’CARE. They can’t even cook up a good old fashioned pandemic-in-a-box. Of couse that’ll just make ‘em madder’n’a bag of africanized bees…or whorenuts, as it were, with that bunch of Washington Reprehensibles.

    So, now we know what to do to keep ourselves from such a stupid bunch of citizen-killers. Whether by accident, design or stupidity what difference does it make to you if you’re their dead victim. MAN-OH-
    MAN I can’t get over it. What a bunch of lemmings at the brink Americans are. But, that’s what you get with government run indocrination and Pavlovian conditioning in our schools.

    You better check yourself ver to see if you’re still subject to it and shake yourself lose if you’re not free of them. At some point they’ll get you to jump whn they pull the string and It’ll cost you or your family a price you won’t want to pay.

  • Robin from Arcadia, IN

    I did not take the vaccine, nor did anyone in my family. We did not get the flu… not even the regular kind.

    I think some of Barry’s good buddies was looking to make a killing in the stock market and needed Barry to throw a few well said warnings about the H1N1, scaring people into rushing to the clinics for the vaccination. He and his cronies probably will get funds added to their accounts for reelection! Politics is dirty business. Our country has become so corrupt that it does not seem like the United States anymore!

    • DaveH

      Robin,
      That is the direct result of people expecting Government to protect them from life. The truth is that even if those people in power sincerely wanted to protect us from all harm, they simply cannot accomplish that goal.
      We need to stand up and take responsibility for our own lives. Teach our children the evils of drugs, or gambling, or whatever we believe is harmful. Don’t expect the Government to protect them from those things. They can’t.
      If we feel that a school environment is harmful to our children, then we need to move them to a safer school.
      When I was growing up, the Government didn’t protect me from drugs, I protected myself. I was brought up with the simple belief that I would never be a follower. If kids would try to manipulate me with phrases like “be cool”, I knew that they had no more right to lead me than I had to lead them.

    • California70

      So right you are!

  • Countrygirl60

    Thomas Jefferson said it best: The government that is big to help you, is big enough to hurt you. Grassroots is where it is at. The “little people” need to be looking at the writing on the wall and see exactly who is steering this country and where we are going. Getting all of us organized and moving forward is the problem. Too many people think it isn’t their problem, or they don’t know what to do, or it’ll take too much time. Our founding fathers and the like-minded people in the American Colonies had to put up with all sorts of chicanery by the English Army, sent by King George III. They fought for over 15 years to get rid of the English and create a working government. That’s what we need to get back to. Having a say in what direction the constitutional democratic Republic of America.

  • rosina

    I have always refused ALL flu shots and have been alright, good food and vitamins do the trick for me.
    But when this new joke came out I checked out details and knew right away it was a scam, originally for Baxter and then the others who moved in with new “antiflu” medications. FORGET IT!!!!!
    The rubbish spouted on TV-cover your mouth when you sneeze is what I was taught as a child, “sneeze into your sleeve” Ugh, sounds awful. Wash your hands frequently? Isn’t that also the norm? I hope so. But did it need so much money spent on Public service ads to tell us all this?
    Indeed, I agree with the majority of comments that this govt. is the pits. Must be removed as soon as possible. That triumvirate of Obarmy/Reid/pelousy must go and asasp.

    • California70

      You said it correctly. This government treats us like a bunch of 4 year olds. Didn’t you learn to sneeze-into-your-sleeve and wash-your-hands when you were in grammer school?

      These people in Washington, DC are nothing more than a bunch of “educated-criminals”.

    • Dennis

      Rosina,
      i do agree with you all the way.
      Theres something people need to know, if Obamacare passes those Vitamins you talk about taking, there will be no more of that it will be government Vitamins only.

  • Thesegravelroads

    The big HlN1 scare even penetrated small town America with local clinics publishing articles as well as Countryside Public Health in our biased newspapers. It becomes the “talk of the town” as we live in small communities and crave for something to talk about…. then it becomes peer pressure oriented when you choose to do the research and make an educated choice “NOT” to subject your own body to the poisonous injection. And when you ask the people within your realm of influence, “Do you know what is in those shots?” Their eyes glaze over with a blank look on their faces…they are too proud to say “No.” I want to encourage the public to do the research and weigh the costs before injecting and subjecting yourself with anything medical. It is ironic that the “serpent” is the symbol for medicine!

    • http://www.americairemember.com angel-wanna-be

      We need to use the symbol as a warning!

  • doctor kyle

    It is clear that this was a hoax. As a physician, I knew from the very start that it was a hoax. Not even a well concocted one as the info I downloaded from the CDC only confirmed my suspicion that assuming there even was such a thing as Swine Flu (H1N1) it was just the flu, and nothing more. Yes, people die from the flu, mostly the very old, the very young and the very sick. This is always true. It is interesting to note, that more people die from influenza every year than from HIV/AIDS and always have. There is very little to support the benefits of vaccination for people outside of the groups mentioned above.

    I was constantly telling patients that “it is just the flu, don’t panic.”

    It is quite clear that there was a political motivation in all this. I suspect that that apart from big Pharma, that many political careers benefited from this hoax, most especially “Big Bro” Obummer. This was likely the down payment to get corporations to buy into the special interest loaded Obamacare that benefits monster corporations and politicians far more than the American citizen.

    • California70

      Dr. Kyle,
      I certainly hope you will continue to post to this site. Your information is invaluable.

    • Marcus

      Doc,
      Thanks for submitting your analysis, we need people like you who set the record straight from a “person in the know” perspective. The absolute criminality of these people is why this country is in serious trouble. Hopefully we can take back our country and soon.

  • http://www.americairemember.com angel-wanna-be

    I also believe being too antiseptic hurts us_We have to have some germs left to build immunity__I also believe running to the doctor everytime we have the sniffles for antibiotics, is causing problems too__if antobiotics are used all the time our immune systems don’t have too work!

    • http://www.americairemember.com angel-wanna-be

      What do you think Doctor Kyle?_ I may be wrong>

      • TIME

        AWB,
        Your on target.

      • Dennis

        angel-wanna-be
        Doctor Dennis says you are right.

  • Cathie

    Thank you, dr. kyle! Good to hear this from a physician. As for Obamacare, from what I see, more doctors oppose it than are supportive. I just wish the physicians opposing Obamacare would be more vocal. Of course, it may now be too late. As for the chants and talking points heralded by the lame-stream-media about the wonders of Obamacare and how it will save so many lives and prevent you doctors from amputating limbs unnecessarily, or removing perfectly healthy tonsils and the like, a little research will shed light on which party received the major donations from insurance companies and the pharmaceutical industry. It was the DEMOCRATS! I’m not saying that the Repubs did not get the donations, after all they are also Washington politicians, but just that the Repubs overwhelming opposition to Obamacare is not because they are walking the line for the pharmaceutical and insurance companies. We better wise up!

  • http://www.lifeconnectionsinc.org grody

    It always amazed me that physicians knew that symmetrel would protect them from the influenza virus, but they never prescribed it for their patients. They found this out from a nursing home incident in 1984. You, see they noticed that while most of their residents came down with the flu every year; the ones with Parkinson’s disease didn’t. When they looked into it they found that only the drug symmetrel stood out as a difference between these patients. Makes you wonder who really cares about you!

    • http://www.americairemember.com angel-wanna-be

      The Government isn’t the one that cares, they just want slave labor, tax slaves and idiots they can keep dumbed down!

  • Bob from Socal

    If anyone wants to delve a little deeper into what is going on behind the scenes of this subject, check out Steve Quayle or Alex Jones on you tube. Some of the information they have will downright scare you.

  • Dave Bufalo

    Now our government wants to run the entire healthe care system with a track record like this??? If they can’t organizw just ONE simple immunization effort, just imagine what they’ll do with an entire health system.

    As Charlie Brown would say, “Good grief.”

  • Jim Allen

    This is just one of many bad things that come out of having “BIG GOVERNMENT”.

    I could name others, but the one that is very frighting to me is the Federal Department of Education. Nikita Khrushchev once said that communism would take over the United States without Russia having to fire one shot. All you have to do is look at our public schools and you will see that our young people are being indoctrated in Socialism on a daily basis. Remember when children started to school at age 6? Then kindergarten requirement brought it down to age 5. Now, the DOE wants mandatory Pre-School. That means age 4. If this continues, our schools will have nurserys which will take newborns. Aha, socialism indoctornation from birth thru college. Old Mr Khrushchev may have allowed the wall to be dismantled between East and West Germany, but he appears to have known what he was talking about when he said Communism would take over our great nation. Wake up people and see what is happening!

    Some of you may think that I got off subject, but if you think about it with an open mind, I believe you will see the connection. Thanks!

  • John

    The swine flu brush of 1976 — some call it a debacle — holds crucial lessons for the government and health officials who must decide how to react to the new swine flu threat in the days and weeks ahead, said those involved in the 1976 experience.

    For starters, officials must keep the public informed. They must admit what they know and don’t know. They must have a plan ready should the health threat become dangerous. And they must soothe everyone’s nerves with reassurances that there is no need to worry in the meantime.

    It’s a tall order. Doubts about the government’s ability to handle a possible flu pandemic linger from three decades ago, said Dr. Richard P. Wenzel, chairman of internal medicine at Virginia Commonwealth University, who diagnosed some of the early cases in 1976.

    However, health experts today know much more about influenza, vaccines and the public’s reaction to both, he said.

    “I think we’re going to have to be cautious,” Wenzel said. “Hopefully, there will be a lot of good, honest public health discussion about what happened in 1976.”

    Officials should be prepared for plenty of second-guessing, especially for any decisions regarding vaccination, which was at the core of the 1976 controversy, said Dr. David J. Sencer, the CDC director who led the government’s response to the threat and was later fired.

    “There were good things and bad things about it,” said Sencer, who is retired and lives in the Atlanta area. “People have to make science the priority. They have to rely on science rather than politics.”

    The question of whether politics overtook science in 1976 still haunts those involved and has been the fodder of books, articles and discussions for 33 years.

    The panic in 1976 was due in part to the belief — now known to be erroneous — that the 1918-19 flu pandemic, which killed half a million Americans and an estimated 20 million people worldwide, was caused by a virus with swine components. Recent research suggests instead that it was avian flu — but that seems unlikely to assuage the anxiety over the current outbreak.

    The episode began in February 1976, when an Army recruit at Ft. Dix, N.J., fell ill and died from a swine flu virus thought to be similar to the 1918 strain. Several other soldiers at the base also became ill. Shortly thereafter, Wenzel and his colleagues reported two cases of the flu strain in Virginia.

    “That raised the concern that the original cluster at Ft. Dix had spread beyond New Jersey,” said Wenzel, former president of the International Society for Infectious Diseases.

    At the CDC, Sencer solicited the opinions of infectious disease specialists nationwide and, in March, called on President Ford and Congress to begin a mass inoculation. The $137-million program began in early October, but within days reports emerged that the vaccine appeared to increase the risk for Guillain-Barre syndrome, a rare neurological condition that causes temporary paralysis but can be fatal.

    Waiting in long lines at schools and clinics, more than 40 million Americans — almost 25% of the population — received the swine flu vaccine before the program was halted in December after 10 weeks.

    More than 500 people are thought to have developed Guillain-Barre syndrome after receiving the vaccine and 25 died. No one completely understands what causes Guillain-Barre in certain people, but the condition can develop after a bout with infection or following surgery or vaccination. The federal government paid millions in damages to people who developed the condition or their families.

    However, the pandemic, which some experts estimated at the time could infect 50 million to 60 million Americans, never unfolded. Only about 200 cases of swine flu and one death were ultimately reported in the U.S., the CDC said.

    The public viewed the entire episode as political farce, said Sencer, instead of a dedicated, science-based effort to protect public health. He said the government chose to err on the side of caution and risk scorn — something that experts working on the current outbreak may also face.

    “If we had that knowledge then, we might have done things differently,” Sencer said. “We did not know what sort of virus we were dealing with in those days. No one knew we would have Guillain-Barre syndrome. The flu vaccine had been used for many years without that happening. If that hadn’t happened, no one would have had any concern about the program.”

    • Jo

      Hey John, thanks for the details of the ’76 vaccine scam – I always thought it was the HongKongFlu scare and did not remember that it was also called the swine flu.
      At that time I was working in a large office building in Chicago and people were lined up in the lobby waiting for the flu shot. The day after I got the vaccine, the reports came out about the deaths and Guillain-Barre syndrome attributed to that flu vaccine. That was the last time I ever got the flu shot of any kind. And as I remember the effects of that vaccine was far worse than any flu I’ve ever had. Yes I have had colds and maybe even the flu, but never anything like those three days after that shot.

      All the talk about H1N1 arguing with some family, friends and even my doctor who could not believe that I turned down the vaccine and was lectured on how I was being irresponsible almost made me change my mind. I am glad I decided not to get it.

      To the message above that said that vaccines have been proven to be a benefit to the public and sited polio and measles as proof – you were probably not around then – I was. Those illnesses were real and they were all around us and not fabricated. We all saw friends, neighbor’s kids, and family members affected. Also at that time there was real trust in doctors (many of whom did some of their own research and had labs in their offices) and yes there was trust in gov and it never occurred to us it was their intent to make people into profit and guinea pigs. I think it is also important to take into account that vaccines for polio took years to study and perfect before putting into public use. Believe it or not I had measles and German measles, mumps and chicken pox and came through them even though there were far less meds to rely on. During that time the polio vaccine came out and thankfully we were finally protected from polio. So no – you cannot put these two in the same barrel – not the same at all.

      • Marcus

        Just a reminder that when the government says to go “there”, go the other way. Fast.

      • DaveH

        It must be tough, Jo, to make your own independant decisions surrounded by all those pushy Chicago Liberals.

        • Jo

          Hi Dave Not so tough mostly I listen, when they ask I give my opinion. I want to hear all sides even if I don’t agree. When the H1N1 issue came up I told family/friends that I thought it was a scam. Some thought I was nuts and some agreed.
          In the last 20 years I have not trusted much or many and miss being able to trust as it can be a detriment and cause for inaction. So I realy on proceed with the intent to do good and even if it is a mistake – it is out of love. And respect others to make their own decision. I do think everyone wants to do good and yes even Chicagoans. Problem here is most are still so complacent or maybe stund and just tired of being lied to that it makes you nuts trying to wake them up to at least take a look. Until I found this site and shows like Beck ect I felt like the very few. Believe me it was worse when they found out I was not voting for O! – Oh boy you should have heard them then. HAH.

          • DaveH

            Congratulations on keeping an open mind, Jo, in the midst of those who won’t.
            If you get the Fox Business Channel, watch John Stossel’s show. I like him even better than Glenn Beck. He doesn’t clown around like Beck. He just gives lots of information on why Big Government doesn’t work and Freedom does.

  • John

    The next swine flu debacle will be in 2045. Just long enough for most of you to forget about the last one. Let’s have a waste your taxpayer dollar party.

    • http://None Jeryl

      Do any of you guys remember why Martha Stewart went to jail? Yep, insider trading. Do you know that it’s legal for members of Congress to buy stock in companies even when they know they’re going to give big contracts to those companies and their stock will rise? I wonder how many members of congress and the administration went out and bought stock in the big pharma companies that were paid billions to produce that poison? It would make an interesting study.

      • TIME

        JeryL

        I guess Barry should be getting his cell soon, why he bought a million dollars in Baxter stock in early 2008, along with his lovely wife who also bought a million dollars of said stock.

        Just a few facts {Baxter invented H1 N1 in 2006,} by the way {its not swine flu,} but {H1 N1} a completely differant pig as it were.

        That means that anyone who had {H1 N1} was deliberately infected by who?
        And How?
        Think about that for a few moments before saying anything.
        Think about what that really means about your water supply,
        food supply, air supply? You tell me how it was done.

        So why do you think Barry wanted to make it a law that everyone got this shot again? Can you say Chicago style MAFIA?

        • TIME

          Oh I forgot to add, this is the same guy that wants to bring you His form of Health Care Reform.

          But its so special of a package that not a single Democrat in either house has dropped the plan they have to take this GREAT special plan.

          So as Nancy PigOsee said you will just have to wait to see whats in it! WOW, how totaly special can it be?

          Oh and he’s the same guy that wants to bring you Cap and Trade.
          Can’t wait to see whats in that now can you?

          And I got wind on Saturday that the WH seems to know that this summer gas prices could hit, as high as $39.00 per gallon, but no less than $29.00 per gallon.
          Strange how the WH knows this in March or what?

          Call your Congress Persons and Senate Persons “NOW” and tell them not to vote; YEA / YES on this bloody Health Care Reform package.
          Tell them you don’t want it!

          Do it “”NOW”” do it every day this week!

          Lets stop this bloody thing “”NOW!””

          • TIME

            Just in case anyone thinks or takes it wrong way
            I am saying to tell your congress and senate persons to vote
            <<>>

      • Jo

        Yes Jeryl I remember why they picked on Martha – because she was a succeful woman that made 40K on a deal. Why did they not go after Madoff at that time for billions? They had been warned by that time. They could have used all those millions used to get Martha’s 40K to do some real good.

        • DaveH

          Jo,
          The whole Insider Trading issue is just one Big Government Scam. The lawyers get richer, the courts get richer, but the Insider Trading laws do nothing for the small investors. It’s kind of like the drug laws which also are costly and futile.
          The truth is that any substantial information, that can greatly affect the price of a company’s shares, is never, I repeat never going to get to the little shareholders first no matter what Big Government does. If the information isn’t leaked to corporate buddies, then the next layer of beneficiaries is going to be the Bigwigs who can afford to sit on the business news wire all day long and take advantage of the information as soon as it is released. The little people only get sucked in after it is too late and the share prices have already been rationalized to the new information.

          Big Government is the Problem, Not the Solution!

  • http://gmail i41

    Just some more Odork and his dems make a problem into a disaster. Idoits voted for the hope and change, and hope they enjoy the change. No jobs, no income, and more massive spending. It sounds like the dems are going to not listen to the public and when dems get back to power again from the loons that vote dems in, will repeat it again just like history always does. Our 60-70′s drug burn outs are in and the bastardized spawn and moving to getting to power position.

  • Marc

    http://www.cdc.gov/h1n1flu/estimates_2009_h1n1.htm

    some people complain because the government (Republican and Democratic Administrations) did something because there was a possibilty the flu could be a problem…..if it had not, people would have complained about that. Always hard to tell what the correct action is.

  • http://Don'thaveone Sally

    I really wish that they would run Soilent Green again on TV before the Obummercare gets voted on.

    • TIME

      Sally,
      Thats a good one, saddly I don’t think most folks have ever read the book nor seen the movie.

      Its to bad that we have so many who are totaly blind and have their ears plugged as well. Let alone can’t be bothered to speak out.

      I know how hard it is I used to be a sound bite person years ago, wow have things changed. I also used to be a Democrat too!

  • http://alanburkhart.blogspot.com/ Alan

    I had the standard vaccinations back in the 60′s when I was a little guy. Aside form a tetanus booster that’s all I ever had. I’ve caught the flu a few times and I survived it. Never had a flu shot. Don’t intend to get one.

  • pat

    hey-let us get this straight please–our country has a two party system for a reason–IT MAKES IT EASIER TO MANIPULATE THE PEOPLE–this is how it works–POLARITY–first you buy the major media-then you buy the politicians–ON BOTH SIDES OF THE AISLE-when you want to stick it to and push the people–you get up a LET’S YOU AND HIM FIGHT SCENARIO–in historical terms-it is called the LENINIST DIALECTIC-i think–that way–no matter who wins–the boys in the back room ALWAYS WIN–if you look at the health care vaccine deal–who cares if the people figure out the scam–THE PHARMACEUTICAL CORPORATIONS ALL GOT THE BILLIONS ANYWAY–and no one is going to make them pay it back–THEM being the same german nazi families that put Hitler in power and supplied munitions for all the wars ON BOTH SIDES for hundreds of years now–DON’T BELIEVE ME-LOOK UP WHO OWNS THE MAJOR SHARES OF THE INSURANCE COMPANIES AND BIG PHARMA–IT IS THE SAME PEOPLE–and the person that said the DEMS are the demons because they got MORE money from the pharma and insurance guys just don’t get it–if they can get you polarized THEY WIN EITHER WAY–the truth is usually found in the middle–not at either end–and i understand it is difficult to think when you are scared and overwhelmed-and have spent a lifetime being made stupid by public education and a food supply and health care system that WANTS YOU stupid-unable to think clearly–because then it is easy to scare and manipulate you–the only solution i know is to stay out of polarity–and keep your head down and your eyes and ears open–don’t take anyone’s word for anything and think with your heart-not your brain/stomach/or wallet–make them CRAZY-throw them off balance–LOVE THEM–feel sorry for them for selling their souls–IGNORE their B.S.–feed yourself the best food you can get-watch less tv so you are not so available to be hypnotized by the commercials–Americans CAN wake up–just love not hate–ANYONE–IT IS ALOT EASIER TO MANIPULATE SOMEONE IN A STATE OF FEAR AND HATE, THEN SOMEONE WHO IS IN LOVE–

    • TIME

      Pat,
      I agree with your last statment 100%, People feed on hate, they lust hate.

      Its hard to get folks to see everyone as a link in the chain of life, thus Love has taken a far back seat to “bloody thirsty hard core HATE crew.”

  • Carol

    I’d say those of us who are allergic to chicken eggs came out the best. Since the serum is incubated in chicken eggs, we can’t have the shot. I’ve had no shots of any kind for over 4 years, and haven’t been sick in 4 years. If I seem to be getting a cold, I take good old Benedryl. Works for everything, not just allergies. I never got to meet my maternal grandfather, He died during the flu “epidemic” of 1917-1918 when my mother was 9 years old. No, it wasn’t the flu that killed him, it was his allergic reaction to the medicine the doctor gave him.

  • Raggs

    Has anyone realized that the H1N1 was started in Mexico a week after obama left the country.

    • Dennis

      Very good point, He is a dirty fukin Communist.

      • denniso

        dennis…and, you’re a foul mouthed fool.

  • Larry

    I WORK in the health care profession, and ALL my co-workers in the ER where we work REFUSED the H1N1 vaccine, as we KNEW it was a big pharma B.S. HOAX for the gov’t to do what they do best when democrats are in charge; Widespread panic, false doomsday forecasting, and controlling the masses. GIMME a BREAK!!! Remember the “wise” words of Rahmbo “DEAD FISH” Emmanuel: “NEVER LET A GOOD CRISIS GO TO WASTE!” I’m smarter than they are apparently. This H1N1 claimed the lives of merely a handful of people compared to the regular flu. Education is the key, and not gov’t indoctrination education. Put more conservatives INTO the education profession, and take the liberals OUT, and watch how “magically” it will fix the problem. Epidemic, pandemic, gimme a break man. It’s all a HOAX for big pharma $$! It’s the American way it seems these days unfortunately. After all, I’m sure if I look up the word Democrat in a foreign language dictionary, the translation to English will be “crisis creator and crisis manager”, both of which they are LOUSY AT! Enough said!

    • Raggs

      Education?…..You mean indoctrination….

  • http://www.archivale.com Marc de Piolenc

    “One-year anniversary?” Please, folks, let’s leave the massacre of English to the mainstream Press – nobody does it better than they do, so competition is a waste of time. Anniversaries, by definition, can only occur at intervals of one year (Latin anno, year), so that phrase should read “first anniversary.”

    • DaveH

      And let’s leave the language police out of the discussion. We know what Bob meant.

  • Dennis

    What we have here is falure to communicate.
    Passing Obamacare is nothing short of Treason, the way they are doing this goes against everything that our constitution stands for.
    I’ve said this before and I’ll say it again America needs to wake up.

    We are at War with Communism and the sooner every red blooded American realizes this, the safer we will be …
    They have infiltrated every conceivable sphere of activity: youth groups; radio, television, and motion picture industries; church, school, educational and cultural groups; the press; national minority groups and civil and political groups …

    We cannot defeat Communism with Socialism, nor with secularism, nor with pacificism, nor with appeasement or accommodation … a soft ATTITUDE toward COMMUNISM can and will DESTROY us if we dont wake up NOW.
    They will stop at nothing to have total control, Thats booth parties.
    Don’t sell your SOUL for healthcare! and LOSE your FREEDOM!

  • ABinGA

    Barack Husain Obama mmm mmm mmm. We need to take control before it’s to late. And yes Soilent green would be a good one to show again. I would venture to guess that the majority of the younger crowd who helped vote Obama in have never seen it.

  • Delores Smith

    TO: Bob Livingston
    Thank you so much for your article on H1N1 and vaccines. It is terrific and right on target.
    I have a theory that when 300 people died in Mexico, where the flu originated,we could have prevented the spread by closing the borders and stopping flights.
    I feel that H1N1 was strong in Mexico for a number of reasons: (1) Horses are the largest land animal that carrys Influenza A. No tests were done on horses to check for H1N1,but we know that H1N1 is Influenza A.(2) Specimens of H1N1 were sent from Mexico and from U.S. to CDC in Atlanta for testing. The CDC Website expained how to package specimens to prevent leakage. Our “weak” cases of flu were spread by leaky specimens in the U.S., except for those areas that had people who had visited Mexico. The strong cases were in Texas, Arizona and California, states which border Mexico. In 2008, 100,000 horses were sent to Mexico
    from Texas to be hand-slaughtered (3) Horse meat is eaten in Mexico. (4) We know about flights from the U.S. to other countries where coughing was spreading the flu. The flights from Mexico continued into the U.S., and other countries. There was no attempt to contain the flu. CDC said people had already been exposed.
    I agree with you the vaccine was a farce from the beginning.
    Delores Smith
    Delores109@cox.net

  • ABinGA

    You’re right Raggs, Indoctrination!!!

  • Annie Ladysmith

    They are all just raving, barking mad, trully rabid, just like in “To Kill a Mocking Bird”, that foaming, menacing, virus drooling dog. Sorry, but there’s only one thing to do, we need to put them down before they put us down. The trully pathetic thing is people that bare their arms for this crap. This is government run amok, it’s like a bad computer that refuses to close and just keeps running programs ya don’t want. Did Hal get unpluged in 2001, i can’t remember? This thing needs to get unpluged.

  • Archipapi

    Bad omen for our future concocted by the New World Order and its three
    weapons:
    – Global Warming to control the Industry.
    – Bank crisis and realignment to control Finance.
    – Mass Vaccination to control Demography.
    We really must keep our eyes open!

    • TIME

      Archipapi,

      I like your three so to add to it a tad to display how these will work.

      #1, Global Warming, The total control of Your ability to move around, as well control of what you will pay for products, thus control of what you can be paid, control how you use energy and who gets to use energy. Aka, overall Population control.

      #2. Bank Crisis, control who gets credit, Who gets a job and who will not. To destroy the free market.

      #3, Mass Vaccinations as well HCR, Control of your health, control of who lives and who dies, control of what you eat, when you eat.
      The total control of your life from Birth to Grave, in plain words if your born with an illness you will not be allowed to live, think of Hitlers Master race idea.
      Thus the heavy work done on genetics, to control who can have and who can’t have children.

      You are all running toward the Brave “NEW WORLD ORDER.”

      A one World Government set up to enslave the world, to keep only the workers that will produce.
      All others will be removed so as to not deplete the natural resources of the world.
      We Welcome you to our vision of how you should live.
      Thank you for voting for Change we can believe in.

    • denniso

      You’re the perfect example of what I was talking about in my comment above. Extremist kook spouting nonsensical conspiracy theories. Come on guy,get a life,do some real reading,turn off Beck and Limbaugh,take a walk,meditate on life,do some volunteer work…do something to get you brain working again,assuming it ever did.

      • JeffH

        Hey dennisso…here is a little info about your government leaders leader. You might want to read it and understand the realities rather than the myth you oh so want to believe and spew at others that re far wiser than yourself.
        http://www.earstohear.net/soros.html

      • TIME

        DennisO,

        I do far more than you will, or have ever done. All I see from you is mindless dribble time after time in your post.

        You need to turn off your TV and get a real life, I don’t watch TV, why?
        I don’t have time to, I also felt that it was a 100% waste of money to pay a cable company for the service of 1000 channels with nothing on them, but hey more power to you if thats what you think is worth while.

        Be that as it may, I do work with Big Brothers, 7 hours per week. What is it you do again?

        I also help with a group that raises money for Cancer victims about 5 hours per week.
        What do you do again?

        I also help my neighbors who lost their jobs, one we still watch her kids every day after school even after she got a job.
        What is it you do again?

        I also help many folks around our area who are in need of help, such as an elderly couple who can’t drive so we take them to the Doc when needed, let alone help them with their homes up keep.
        So what is it you do again?

        We also give money to a number of 501 C – 3 Charities, to include Animal shelters also of what I help them out many hours per week feeding and caring for animals.
        So what is it you do again?

        And oddly last but not least I also know many of our Politicians of who I get a first hand read of whats really going on in the DC beltway. Of whom I have dinner or Lunch with.
        Again, what is it you do?

        I would venture to bet you do “nothing that benifits anyone but you.”

        Your a classic example of a person that can’t see the forest though the tree’s.

        • denniso

          Time…who said I watch TV?? If you do all of those things you mentioned,good,I commend you for it…but how then do you have ‘time’ to come up w/ all these truly looney conspiracy theories? It’s hard to imagine that you really believe that stuff…do you just get it off rightwing sites and not look at it critically?

          • TIME

            DennisO,
            I take the very words our leading politicians speak, name me one since Nixon that has not used the term’s
            “ONE WORLD GOVERNMNNT” and “NEW WORLD ORDER”.
            Ok I will tell you the one and only that did, his name was John F. Kennedy, just look what happend to him.

            As well I have traveled the world many times over, its my job so I see what goes on all over in the world. Controled media spin is everywhere. Why is that? CONTROL of the mass is the reason.

            Dude, I have no illusions.

            Just as the German people said in 1933 Hitler will never rule Germany, yet in 1935 he was the Jr Leader, then in 1936 was the Big Kuna.
            People here in the United states say a Marxist government can’t happen here, yet its unfolding daily and has been for years now, its just a long slow drawn out play that most miss due to its slow path of eating away at the core.

    • JeffH

      Archipapi and Time, oh so true…check out the links I provided, just for some insight to what is happening in America.

  • Carol

    Work. I have been applying for jobs since January 1999 I get asked why I have no job history from 1993 to 1998. I tell them I was taking care of my Mother and didn’t have to declare what she paid me since a parent can give a child up to $10,000 a year tax free. I was then told, several times that I had to have documentation. EXCUSE ME. Then the biggest lie was that I was overqualified. You can be underqualified for a job, but not overqualified. The county taxes have increased by 600% in spite of California’a Prop 13. They get by by calling them fees instead of taxes. Now, Seniors on Social Security get no cost of living increase for 2 years because they included the crash of the housing market in their calculations. Everything went up this year, and now I no longer have prescription coverage or supplemental insurance. Why? I don’t enough to pay for it and my household bills each month. Most of my prescriptions are covered by special Pharmacy discounts, but BristolMeyers/Squibb has a choke hold on those of us who are allergic to aspirin and have to take Plavix. So, Dennis O. good that you are working, good you take care of animsls. I take care of animals too when I can. Rescue and all. But it’s easier for a man to get a job. I have even applied at WalMart 3 different times, and was finally told that my apps. went into the wastebasket probably as soon as I left. Why?? I was overqualified. All these things you say you do Dennis O. Sounds like you have plenty of money. Me, I worked most of my life, had the gov. take part of every paycheck saying I would have to have it for retirement. Funny how I made more during my lifetime than my Father did, buy am getting about half of what he got from Social Security. I’d be better off now if I’d been able to put that into my own retirement. Mass vaccinations are just another way to control people. Since so many are incubated in chicken eggs, I think I may be very lucky I’m allergic to them and can’t take the vaccinations.

    • Skip None

      You’ve been looking for a job since 1999? That’s 11 years! I can’t help but think someone who has been looking for 11 years must not really want to work. Sorry, but there has to be something out there for you, or you just too picky, or just plain don’t present yourself very well.
      I can’t believe you blame all your problems on the government! Vacinations are government control? Get real!

  • Skip None

    Its amazing, this past fall all the paranoids on here were crying about forced vacinations, government control, and even mind control from swine flu vacines. What a laugh! No one came and forced me to take any vacine, No one I know even got sick from the swine flu. It’s the press and the paranoids that make a big deal over things like that. Kind of like the snow storms we had in the east this winter. Everyone rushed to buy their bread and milk, store shelves were empty the day before the snow storm. We got like 24″ of snow but the day after the storm most people except those in very remote places could get out, go to work and go shopping. When are people going to think for themselves and with reason rather than get all over excited from the few that stand to profit and those paranoid weirdos out there?

  • Carol

    Skip None, looks like you skipped my meaning. I am a white female. That means I am at the bottom of the hiring lists at my age and overqualified means they don’t want an old woman working for them. I also don’t recall saying anything about the government forcing vaccines on people. The only thing I blamed the government for was using the housing market crash to deny a cost of living raise for those on Social Security. The gov. takes 96.40 for medicare and doesn’t cover very much. My supplemental was raised to 169 a month and prescriptiong to 62.80 a month. Then the co-pay is 5 a month for generics and up to 75 a month for brands like Plavix. Doesn’t leave much for a person to live on. As for jobs, I apply for any I am physically capable of doing, and for which I have knowledge. Since you don’t know me, your insulting remarks were uncalled for.

    • Meteorlady

      You need to take control of your health. That means eating healthy, walking daily, exercising about 3 times per week and generally getting yourself into physical shape. Sounds like you are a drug company’s dream and maybe there are other supplements that could be as effective.

      if you have been looking for a job that long you must either be very unhealthy looking, over-weight and could potentially be a hugh health care burden to an employer. I’m a woman and have been able to find good paying jobs all of my life. I am healthy and not on any prescription drugs though I do take a lot of supplements.

  • Meteorlady

    Since I’m “older” when I grew up we didn’t need to be vaccinated. I got Chicken Pox, Measles, Mumps and had a lot of sour throats until they took my tonsils out. Now I am older but hardly ever sick. I can’t remember the last time I had a cold or flu. I think to have suffered these childhood diseases made me stronger.

    I once took a flu shot and was sick for a week with the….. you guessed it – the flu. Never again. The only other times I have been sick is when I had to take a prescription for an infection, that made me really sick for two weeks after I took it. Vowed not to take drug company poison every again.

  • Jacqueline Soren

    This year, after my regular October flu shot… I foolishly said yes to a hospital physician who asked if I wanted the Swine flue shot, he used its letter number name. That yes, brought to me within the week, painful knees joints, way worse than any other small pain stiffness I had had. I’m told its pseudo gout. arthritis … meaning I understand, calcified cartilage? I believe the shot did it, because the shot may have been one of the bad ones. My first thought on the question in the back of my head was no shot thank you … I should have stuck with that no.

  • Bob Wire

    I don’t take them either, ~ and someday it may well cost me dearly.

    in the meantime, I stay way from doctors until which time I can’t.

    The thought of died doesn’t bother me that much, not sure why?, a soldier’s survivor remorse perhaps. Who knows? My name could have easily been on the black granite wall, as is, I’m the old bald fart down the street that people wonder about and offer a wide berth. Fitting in with “no” crowd, spare me the curse, love music, sharp wit, babies, puppies, old whiskey, young women fast horses and a good poker hand.

    I’m just allergic to pain! and I really not enjoying it here that much anymore. There’s just too many stupid person around that want to share their wisdom. The predators are everywhere anymore! People willing to distort any truth for “position” and payola. Was it always this way and I just woke up or is this something new?

    I’m stuck in a rut of paying what I owe! yet I buy little while always behind! I’ve plenty of contract work to do, but don’t have the money to do but some of it, everyone’s running behind the demand. I can’t get too far ahead of the money. I’m not stealing, just working of a fair price, I suppose. ~ Who knows?

    I’ve attempted to quit worrying about it but that don’t last long, for here walks up another big bad wolf, threaten to blow my house down if I don’t fork it over.

    You know, the system we live in today creates criminals or at least attempt to tag you as one, if you fail to give them what they want, fail to comply. It’s like an attack on your self image.

    Call me what you wish , but something is really (word removed) up in the world we live in, and I don’t think it’s “all” me.

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