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Survival Traits

November 29, 2010 by  

Survival Traits

Do you have the personality to stay alive in times of crisis? Believe it or not, psychologists have studied the personalities of those who have survived life-threatening events to see what set them apart. It turns out they all had common traits.

In her book The Unthinkable, Amanda Ripley writes that people go through three basic steps when confronted with a life-or-death scenario: denial, deliberation and decision. During the denial stage, it is not unusual for people to continue performing mundane tasks while chaos reigns around them. The brain is processing information, delaying its decision-making process and assessing the risk.

In the deliberation phase, the mind begins to put together possible courses of action. It’s not unusual, Ripley writes, for people to describe this period as having time almost stand still. They remember in great detail the words or images that would not normally be significant.

It’s this stage, and the decision stage that follows, that usually determines whether the outcome will be a good one.

In his book, 98.6 Degrees, The Art of Keeping Your Ass Alive!, Cody Lundin writes that survivors all have common personality traits which take over in the decision stage:

  • The ability to keep calm and collected. This is the ability to prevent fear and panic from taking over your world, as both possess the power to incapacitate the body and mind. Prior training can help you deal more effectively with “this ugly pair.” Sometimes you have stop and regroup to allow clarity to surface.
  • The ability to improvise and adapt. This allows you to improvise and make use of every opportunity. For instance, it allows you to pack survival gear with more than one function or gear that allows for creating other gear. It can also be thought of as the ability to understand what all can be accomplished with limited resources.
  • The ability to make decisions. Rather than getting lost during the decision-making process — or having  your brain freeze, forcing you into inaction — this ability allows you to thoroughly yet quickly formulate a game plan then follow through with it. Lundin recommends you be decisive and take responsibility for your decisions.
  • The ability to endure hardships. A survival situation is not comfortable. It will tax you physically, mentally, emotionally and spiritually. Your ability to endure hardship will be tested. The two greatest enemies to survival are a desire for comfort and complacency. Desiring temporary comfort can spur you into making decisions that are irrational, and this impulse must be overcome.
  • The ability to figure out the thoughts of others. How can intuition work to your advantage? Put yourself in the shoes of your rescuers. Which direction will they come from? Where might they look first? What will they expect you to do? These are crucial questions to consider if you’re expecting rescue. As for those in your group who are looking to you for leadership, be mindful of their condition. Are they experiencing panic, in danger of hypothermia or dehydration or exhibiting an inability to cope? Remember that what befalls one member of the group spreads to others.
  • The ability to hope for the best but prepare for the worst. Hoping for the best means maintaining a positive attitude regardless of the difficulties thrown your way. Proper preparation is an essential part of survival. Practice both before and during any outdoor excursion.
  • The ability to maintain a sense of humor. Lundin believes humor has a great effect on the human psychology and physiology.

The way you handle the three phases of the crisis, and whether you exhibit the traits mentioned here, may determine how long and how well you survive if you suddenly find yourself on your own.

Bob Livingston

is an ultra-conservative American who has been writing a newsletter since 1969. Bob has devoted much of his life to research and the quest for truth on a variety of subjects. Bob specializes in health issues such as nutritional supplements and alternatives to drugs, as well as issues of privacy (both personal and financial), asset protection and the preservation of freedom.

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  • Michael J.

    Survival expert my ass, Cody Lundin endangers any party he is a part of by not wearing shoes. Going barefoot severely limits a persons ability to survive in most any environment. The constant threat of injury to the feet puts in jeopardy the lives of all who travel with him in a survival situation and does not reflect rational thinking, but is instead the radical thinking of a tree hugging left over hippie, which he is.

    Given a choice, I would give better odds at survival with Dave Canterbury, military trained and not squemish when it comes to killing and eating anything that moves with the focus on doing whatever is needed to stay alive irregardless of political correctness.

    • Doug

      Does Dave Canterbury have any published work on survival?

      • Michael J.

        Doug,
        Yes, just search his name.

    • http://zzzz Preston

      11/30/10, When it comes to survival, nobody does it like the Bear. Grylls eats stuff & goes where few dare to tread.

      While it may be true that a crew follows & films him as he goes along, imagine the crew filming as [they] go through an ice tunnel.

      Such feats alone are awesome. You can’t fake this.

    • DaveH

      Watch out what you wish for, Michael. It might come true. Personally, I like people who aren’t all like a bunch of penguins, each one doing the same as the other. I like Freedom.

  • Robin from Arcadia, IN

    Personally I believe that faith in God and your religion would have been one of the major factors of this article. I am surprised it is not mentioned. Keeping your focus on God and His will should be a priority, giving you the ability to keep a frame of mind to cope, make decisions, and think things through.

    • Eddie D.

      You’ll be in deep do-do when sh$t hits the fan.

      • Vigilant

        Not at all, Eddie D. Mindset is ALL important in survival situations. Don’t underestimate its power just because you have (most likely) atheist beliefs.

      • Vicki

        Probably not. One of the KEY benefits to faith in God is simply that you will tend toward being calm and collected. Those without faith will find it harder to be. As you notice in the list this is one of the survival traits. So even if there is “nothing that created everything” the simple fact of faith (in yourself, in God, in both) is enough to increase (sometimes significantly) your chance of survival.

        • independant thinker

          Well said Vicki well said.

    • Tony

      Robin,
      You are destined to be another casualty! In a survival situation you will only have yourself and possibly someone else that is a rational thinker to rely on. Praying that a mythical god will save you will in all likelyhood cost you and others around you your life. I was an Air Force survival instructor at the end of Vietnam and I know a little bit about what it takes to survive. Rational thinking and actions are your only ally.

      • James

        Tony, I don’t believe God is mythical, but He will only help those who help themselves – if what they are doing is aligned with His agenda.

        • Yankee Will

          Good answer James! I like it!

      • Richard Pawley

        An interview with many ‘survivors’ has attributed their belief in God and His care and concern, with their survival. In fact it was a common denominator. Of course there are always exceptions but God can guide us even when we don’t believe in Him and imagine that is is our own inspiration. This is more difficult of course but He does such things because He loves us. In the bible, however, God even warned Israel to be careful of such thinking because it would eventually get them in trouble.

      • Jeff

        Tony, since you were a military survival instructor, I’m surprised you don’t quote the field manual on Survival that says the most important element of survival is the WILL to survive. Anything that gives you that WILL to survive should be an asset, right? I don’t think, at least I hope not, that anyone is advocating sitting on their ass and waiting for God to save them. He might, but belief in God isn’t going to hurt you.

      • Owarsfeather

        Tony you will not be a casualty, just a lone man with a mindset.

        A Faith in God comes with knowledge. The man in Faith realizes when you call upon the Lord you are vulnerable. A response from God comes from an Enity whose purpose is to strengthen the man. This encounter entails an unknown course. Quitting in midstream, is not an option. When God said: “I will see you through” You had better hold on and commence using the wisdom..because you are coming out of the delima one way or the other.
        To whom much is given much is expected…So the initial response from God does not end there.

    • Aaron

      Robin you are correct. God first. If these people cannot see that God is real why should they want to survive anyway.
      Danny is correct as well, it is a mindset. Most people would not make it.
      Being a vet though great and honorable does not insure survival either.

      • Tony

        Aaron, I understand what you’re saying but it is SITUATION AWARENESS and RATIONAL THINKING that will save you, not god.

        • Dick Gazinia

          Right on, Tony. The qualities you mentioned also helped me survive the same conflict.

          • Tony

            Dick, yeah, we can say “been there, done that”. It’s amazing what we learn from experience and not from unfounded beliefs.

        • Vigilant

          You guys may survive a given catastophic situation, but I would never trust you to establish a lasting and free society. The situational ethics of an athiest or secular humanist is what brought us Russia in 1917 and a host of other failed societies.

          • DaveH

            Sorry, Vigilant, but being a believer does not give you a corner on the market of respecting your fellow human. Remember, radical Islamics believe in a God also and you know what they would do with you and I.

        • Richard Pawley

          Tony, what you say is not entirely true. In the amazing 106 page book PRISON TO PRAISE by Merlin Carothers (LtCol.Ret.), he recalls many ‘coincidences’ including one dramatic one of how God inspired a survivor – the only survivor as I recall – of a downed heliocopter in Vietnam to respond to his situation as they all sank to the bottom, and what this new Christian diid, saved his life. In my own autobiography, LEAVING SOUTH CAROLINA, which I do every year (and three times this year), I recall coming up to my apartment on Green Street in Columbia, SC, and as I found a much coveted parking space right in front of my apartment I heard a distinct “Drive around the block” in my spirit. Not understanding at the time how God works with people, I ignored it. I had noticed three guys talking to each other about 50 feet away. As I got out of my car and locked the door I turned around to go into my apartment and was surprised to see that I was virtually surrounded. “We’re soldiers out at Ft. Jackson” the leader said with a distinct accent. “We’re broke and don’t have the money to get back”. Fort Jackson, a huge army base was about six or seven miles away. It says in the Bible (that I happen to believe is the distilled wisdom of God handed down through the ages to guide men through this life) that when we don’t know what to say God will give us the words (this presupposes you know Him, and the Bible, and have some idea of how He operates). Well, I didn’t know Him well enough back during the Vietnam Conflict to even know that I needed words but He gave them to me anyway (because He loves me, just as He loves you). “I’m just about busted myself I said,” as I reached into my pocket and pulled out the change I had, giving them the bulk of it. “You ought to be able to get some bus tokens with this” I continued as I handed it to them, and then, noting their accent followed by saying, “Your not from around here, are you?” “Nah! We’re from Joisy!” (New Jersey) one of the others answered. “Well, I’ve got to go. Good luck” I replied as I turned and walked immediately into the walkway to my apartment. I didn’t even know that there was anything unusual in all this until I read in the paper the next day they that they walked up the street and the next three people they encounted they robbed at knife point. In my other pocket I had my salary for two weeks that I had just obtained by cashing my paycheck prior to driving home. What might have happened if they had tried to rob me I do not like to think about. The point is that I know of so many cases where God inspired people to do just exactly what was right or what was needed, warned someone not to board a doomed flight, or to take a different way to work, and on and on. The world calls in coincidence (but that is just when God elects to remain anonymous). The world (worldly people actually) also call it inspiration but I call it Inspiration with a capital “I”! You may have had relgious fanatics as parents or life may have hurt you or you may have seen so much that you can’t believe that a caring God exists, but He does, though He has many enemies. Even in Heaven there was a rebellion where one third of the non-physical beings led a rebellion against him and of course failed, because God IS GOD, the Supreme Being. Some are hoping that they will just die and that is all there is to it because they are afraid that they will be held accountable for what they have done in war or life but but wishing won’t change things from how they really are. There is no sin you can ask God to forgive that, if you truly mean it, He won’t forgive. God is not bounded by walls, denominations, churches, or even man’s imagination. Many who have not believed have come to believe and many who have believed have gone beyond belief to knowledge. I certainly don’t know it all, but I would have to say that I am one who has gone beyond just belief. Of course just believing that God exists is not the same as having a relationship with him. The Bible says that the “devil believes and trembles.” The point is that God is real and that He loves me and has done things for me that could fill several books but I’ve only written two. Our nations seems to be failing because our founding fathers even said that the nation they devised was only designed for responsible believers and that it would not work for others. Our form of government won’t work for long by those who oppose God or want to be God and do their own thing with no regard for anyone else. I’ve been told that the word SURVIVE or SURVIVOR is not mentioned once in all the Bible, and that is (I believe) because God does not want us to survive, He wants us to PROSPER. I also believe the God is consistent, “Am I a man, that I should change my mind” He said once. Well, we in the US have broken just about every commandment He gave us and while He will never abandon us He once let His Chosen People be led into captivity for 80 years in Babylon to teach them a lesson. I hope that God’s just punishment for us will not be more harsh than the several hundred percent inflation He told me was coming over 18 years ago. The FED told me the week before last that there has only been 57% since then and it that is true there is going to be a whole lot more very soon and I have no problem warning all who will listen that food and all you can think of except houses, are going to at least triple. I hope that the coming bad times, what I called “The Greater Depression” in my autobiograhy, will bring more people into His fold. Otherwise all this will be pointless. My prayer is that you will someday come to know that not only is God real but that He loves you.

          • Granny Mae

            Richard Pawley,

            Very well said. Thank you for your insight. It is hard to put into words how or why a Christian believes what they believe. It’s kind of like saying, you know, that you know, that you know ! It is clear to us but to the unbeliever what is that suppose to mean ? You have put it in terms that have meaning to those still in the dark ! Perhaps you should write another book ! I bet it would be a hit !
            God Bless you.

          • http://zzzz Preston

            Rich, try to create paragraphs (press ENTER). It’s easier on the eyes.

          • independant thinker

            Granny Mae, glad to see you back. Here is a book you might be interested in. “Indian Herbalogy of North America” by Alma R Hutchens. I ran accross it in a used book store and noticed it had a number of references to diabetes so thought you might like to look it up.

          • cherylann

            Yes, it is faith in God that sustains. I remember obeying a small voice in my spirit man and said “Do not go on the highway” and I obeyed that voice and sure enough the car just stopped if I would have went on that highway that day I could imagine the unthinkable. The vehicle stopped at the Ironside and Lutheran church. I have been through many mishaps and God has seen me through each mishap. I am now Messianic. A Jew that has always believed in the Messiah.

      • Dogma-Free

        GOD GAVE ME CRABS!! …and he gave friends of mine, cancer.

        Either way, good article…definitely not a complete guide on the subject at hand, but then…this site never really offers a complete picture on anything it presents…usually just one side, and a fraction of the picture at best. Still, this is a good start, and if one wants a more complete picture, one should do some more research on the matter.

        • Vigilant

          Sounds like the dogma of a committed athiest, “dogma-laden.”

        • Michael J.

          Dogma-Free,
          God did not give you crabs. When it comes to contracting communicable diseases, I’m confident you hold your own quite well, and often.

        • Vicki

          God most certainly did give you crabs and cows and shrimp and pigs and goats ….. Some are better to eat than others.

        • Granny Mae

          Dogma-Free,

          Are you committed or just looking for answers? You were given free will which is evident by your responces at times. You lash out to hurt people by the things you say about God knowing they will be the greatest hurt you can deliver to a person. I won’t say to Christians because Jews also believe in God ! As for the crab remark and the friends with cancer, God never gives us those things. Those are the result of just living life in which ever way we seem to choose. As for cancer well, I can say a lot about cancer and none of it good ! It is a fact of life they say, if you live long enough you will get cancer in some form or another. Well I know there has been plenty of it in my family. My grandmother whom I loved as much as my mother died of brain cancer, my mother died of lung cancer, my father had prostate cancer, my husband had cancer of the lymph nodes, my baby sister died of breast cancer. That was the hardest one for me to understand and eccept. She was a wonderful young woman. A mother of four children and teacher for the 8th grade, a woman active in her church and school activities and she was a grandmother a daughter , and daughter-in-law a wife a friend and I could go on and on. She was loved by everyone that knew her. At her funeral they had to place the flowers in two adjoining rooms there were so many of them. Her life and death were spoken of on the radio and her funeral was attended by so many people they were standing outside the church because there was no room inside the church. I miss her to this day. We were very close. Do I believe that God gave her cancer? Not for one minute. It is a part of life that is not pleasant but one that we must deal with. God does not punish us on earth. He has given us his forgivness but we know that upon our death we will stand before Him and be judged. It is then we will be punished. I find that people blame God for every bad thing that happens in their life because they just can’t face the fact that most of the things that happen to them that are bad is of their own making. Usually the result of a choice they made in the first place that turned out bad ! That isn’t the answer to every thing that goes wrong but it happens a lot more often than we would like to admit. God doesn’t force anything on us. We have free will to choose for ourselves the path we take, but from the beginning God gave us rules to live by. He told us that if we followed the rules our lives would go well. If not we would suffer. It seems that we have chosen not to follow the rules and now we are suffering and of course we blame God for it all. Wow, unreal ! I came to believe in God when I looked around me and I couldn’t find any real purpose for keeping man alive ! You see the only thing on earth that cannot exist without everything else on earth is man ! Take anything on earth and remove it and Man suffers greatly but take man out of the picture and everything else on earth prospers ! We need everything on this earth to survive and God knew that. The Bible tells us that he made everything first and then he made man. He told man to fill the earth and subdue it. Have dominiun over the earth and everything in it ! God made the earth and all that was in it and above it and beneath the sea and yet God knew it needed one last thing. It needed mankind to round it out and complete it. Now God didn’t promise us a rose garden but he did tell us that life would be worth the living. Man is smart and can make his life easier or harder. To bad some tend to make it harder and difficult at every step. Did you know that God has told us that when we become burdened and heavy laden that we can just give him our troubles and he will take them for us ? I have done that man times and what a blessing to have the worries and troubles of this world lifted from my shoulders. It is a feeling like no other and I pray some day you can experience it. Think about what you have heard about God and then start talking to him and ask him to prove to you he is real. He will and it will blow your socks off ! He may not do it instantly but I can tell you it won’t take long and he will show you his existance in a way most meaningful to you. You don’t have to believe me, just do what I said and prove me wrong ! God Bless !

          • http://zzzz Preston

            To Granny: While I can sympathize with you’re plight about cancer, these self-styled nature lovers know all too well that nature doesn’t love them.

            Cancer is nothing more than an infinitesimal micro-organism just trying to survive off it’s host.

            Try separating paragraphs (press ENTER); it’s easier on the eyes.

          • Dan az

            Preston
            this may be easier for you to read BITE ME!

    • 45caliber

      Robin:

      A belief in God and prayer will get you through the denial part a lot faster. It will also assure that you are open to any ideas or knowledge that God gives you. Ignore the atheists – they have no idea of what God can do – and believe that he is actually Santa Claus.

    • http://, Vippy

      Baloney! Why were we given a brain! Once it is established that we are being invaded by UFOs it will kill the “religion.” God don’t take care of anything, try it. You have to fend for yourself but people need to believe – I would rather believe in myself!

      • JimH

        Vippy, You say you’re going to use that brain that God gave you to believe in yourself?

  • http://mozillafirefox mike bigler

    If I was involved in a survival situation I would probably leave the group. Why? I could not take the complainers–I wish i had a cigarette,I miss my coffee, when are going to get rescued, should we stay or leave. The average person today are incompetent to even survive in the their own home.

    • James

      i agree wholeheartedly !!!! as a vet ( 1968 – 1974 ) i wouldn’t trust my life to ANY of these pansy, crybabies , that think they know it all .

      • James

        I am not this ‘James’, the above comment about God is mine. I’m a Koean war vet (1950-52).

    • Bruce D.

      Many survived in the Astral Dome without food stamps or any Federal assistance of any kind for three days. It was looked on as a miracle by many and a hardship no human being should ever have to endure. What do you think? Is it a crime against humanity to allow people to go without Federal assistance for three days in a survival situation? Should they have had the instinct to pee outside or was saturating the Astroturf where they slept understandable under those conditions.

      • Tony

        Bruce, am I a sick individual to see the humor in your post?

        • Kevin

          well, that makes 2 sick people as this post is hilarious.

          • Doug

            Make that 3!
            I must add, however, that post crisis, all those who peed other than in the restrooms must be labeled sex offenders for exposing themselves in public!!

          • 45caliber

            Doug:

            Many didn’t expose themselves. They simply wet their pants. Good people, huh?

      • Michael J.

        Bruce D.
        The survivors in question were never without Federal assistance. Judging by the heftiness of storm survivors making their way to the dome in archival video footage, Federal assistance/food stamps provided them with the biological flotation devises which kept them afloat and therefore saved their lives.

        • 45caliber

          The local people provided when the Feds couldn’t. They set up food lines, beds, etc. One doctor was there at the time to give free medical care and to help otherwise. He was really annoyed when they refused to even help themselves. That was one reason they didn’t use the restrooms; they were simply too lazy to walk that far or wait in line. Several young men simply watched several ladies struggling with mattresses for them. When asked to help they insisted that they were the victims and therefore deserved that others waited on them.

          Incidently, there are STILL people drawing federal money because they won’t move back to NO until their old homes are rebuilt – ones they didn’t own and won’t be replaced. So they stay in hotels and get room service. Some judge ruled that they needed that care.

          • Carlucci

            Two friends of mine went down to the Houston Astrodome to help the Katrina people when they arrived from NOLA. They said those “victims” sat around and did nothing to help set up bedding, showers, toilets, etc. When one of my friends asked a group of able bodied men sitting around watching if they wanted to help with the set ups, they looked at him like he was crazy. Both of my friends told me that the “victims” just sat around complaining about everything, but never lifted a finger. Oh well, some people would bitch if you hung ‘em with a new rope.

            There also must have been some kind of virus running rampant that the “victims” brought with them, because both of my friends became very ill for over a week with the same symptoms. They said they’d never volunteer to do anything like that again, at least not for people from NOLA.

          • Granny Mae

            45caliber,

            Watching the Katrina tragady left me with a profound determination that I would never allow myself to depend on anyone but myself for anything. All the people that were on welfare seemd to have the same mentality of having everything provided for them. It may not be the best or even what they want but what ever it was it had to be provided. They had become dependant on being taken care of and didn’t seem to realize they could take care of themselves much better than what was being provided for them. First I would never take myself and my children to a place that was going to house thousands of people all at the same time ! Second not in a deadly storm ! Third, the people of New Orleans all have to know they live in a city that is below sea level and would most likely flood in a storm termed to be as bad as that one was. It seems that no-one used any common sense. I saw people carrying a milk jug with water in it and dragging a blanket on the ground behind them. I would have at least rolled the blanket and tied it with a rope or a shoe lace or something. When you accept a living provided by the government it seems to rob you of your dignity. You have to accept a sub-standard way of life and then it become accepted. You develope a dependance and a form of lazyness. You loose your desire for improving yourself and think that is all there is in life for you ! That should never happen to anyone. Everyone on earth deserves the chance to better themselves but if they become complacent with what they have they will never struggle to improve ! As I was watching all the tragedy in the days after Katrina I kept asking myself what could they have done ahead of time that could have made life a littel easier until they could have gotten out of that horrible situation? First they could all have had a emergency backpack. They could have made one from a kids school backpack to use till after the storm was over. There should have been a list of things to check off while packing it and first thing on the list would have to be any medicine that you need to live. I couldn’t believe that people left their house without their medicine ! There should be asprin, pepto bismol or emetrol. A plastic bag with a washcloth in it, some emergency food of what ever you can get at the store before the storm hit, a flashlight but most of all the one thing I noticed that they all could have bennifited from was a simple umbrella ! They were out in the rain and sun and that little umbrella could have provided simple shelter for them. If each one had a small backpack with an umbrella and medicine a couple bottles of water and some granola bars life would have been a little easier. I wonder if FEMA has learned what they need to do immediately to take care of people in trouble right after a storm? Probably not ! I will pray that people will remember from the past what they need to do to survive a storm. An emergency back pack will be different for different parts of the country but it should always contain essentials and necessities. If you don’t have an umbrella then take some plastic bags with you. They can be used for a lot of different things, including a rain coat , or shade from the sun or weather or it can even be your toilet if necessary. People everyone should have an emergency pack to grab quickly when you must leave. Take the time now to plan what you would want in it and remember you will have to carry it so don’t make it too heavy. Always grab your important papers and your medicine just before you leave. Pre-planning is everything to survival because you may not be able to think straight in the first few moment or hours of an emergency. Plan it now and get it done. I did ! Last but not least, get a umbrella and put it in that backpack !

          • libertytrain

            Granny Mae – I agree with you. I also felt the same when watching Katrina. These people had been made helpless by the government- city, state, and Federal- and their own inability to get out of their situation – I like your backpack idea -

          • 45caliber

            To make matters worse, a number of people from here (such as electrical power people, firemen, etc.) volunteered to help. They had to pay their own way to Atlanta, stay in hotel for a week, take a course on what FEMA is, and THEN get permission to go help.

            It was a week longer to provide help and why should anyone have to know what FEMA is and does before helping?

    • http://zzzz Preston

      Worse, yet, Mike, most such people never learned how to cross a street.
      ‘Hit me; I dare you!’ is the order of the day.

  • oldbill

    You mean that’s not the “normal” way I am supposed to live, all the time?

  • Eddie D.

    I’m with Mike B, I would want to be by myself. I can live and eat anything to stay alive. I don’t see how a god that is Myth would be much help. Allways being prepared for the worst is your best chance of mking it.

    • Concerned American

      Be by yourself???? Do people have some kind of fetish to be the road warrior or one of the characters in a Fall Out roleplaying video game? While it might seem “cool” to be a kind of road warrior by yourself in a survival situation, there is a good reason people banded together to form civilization. The hardiest individual can be overcome by 10-20 dim wits who have banded together looking for food and water. You have to join some group to survive…. Your odds of survival have to be somewhat better with a few people rather than by yourself. After all if you injure yourself, who could potentially help you before a grizzly decides to taste human flesh?

      • Vicki

        And besides those loners have to sleep sometime. Who is going to stand watch?

    • Bruce D.

      Many think like you do EddieD. But it is easy to say what you would or would not do without being in that situation. It is not uncommon for people to find faith for the first time in years under life threatening conditions. You may be the exception.

      • Tony

        Bruce, he’s not the only one.

    • moondoggy

      You may just get your wish. The bible says that all who reject God’s one and only Son Jesus as their savior, will spend eternity, separated from God in a Devil’s Hell. Are you sure that’s what you really want? Think about it!

      • Doug

        Sooo… we’ve gone from survival in a crisis to surviving and trying to appease a supposed loving god whom will torture us with eternal fire and damnation if we don’t surrender to his every dictate? Doesn’t sound very loving to me. Sounds more like Islamic extremist’s demands or else: surrender or die!

        My simple opinion (although not original) is Religion is for those afraid of hell while spirituality is for those who have been there.

        Looking for spiritual guidance is very reasonable in a crisis, but sometimes its time to quit praying and take action. Kneeling with your eyes closed and hands clasped unto white knuckles makes you an easy target. In a large group of starving people, I’d be abliged to send you to Jesus so we would have sustinence; you already have an escape plan!

        • 45caliber

          Poor Doug. He wants to commit all the sins he likes and still get guaranteed a place in heaven.

          Have you ever heard of personal responsibility? I thought not.

        • Vicki

          You are on a road. Up ahead there is a fork. God tells you that you should take the path to the right because, God says, if you take the path to the left you will burn. You go to the fork and take the path to the left. You fall into a pit of boiling water. So why do you say that God is going to torture you for not following his instruction?

        • Granny Mae

          Doug,

          Those of us religious are not afraid of hell because we are not going there !

    • Vigilant

      “I would want to be by myself. I can live and eat anything to stay alive. I don’t see how a god that is Myth would be much help. Allways being prepared for the worst is your best chance of mking it.”

      Somehow I think you’d be one of the first to put a bullet through your head. The big talkers usually are the ones to lose their sanity first.

    • Richard Pawley

      The god who is a myth wouldn’t be much help, but the creator of all that is would be waiting for us to call upon Him and eager to help His wayward children. Even Jesus could not do much in the way of miracles in his home town because there was so much unbelief. Our determined refusal to acknowledge God or to give him that which is His makes it difficult even for God to help us – not impossible of course, but difficult. Hell was not created for humans but for much higher beings with far more spiritual knowledge and those who willing choose to go there – well, that’s the point, they choose it. Jesus even told a woman in England before we were born that she should not try to use fear to win people to Him. “The must be a better way,” I recall Him saying to her, “Ask Me and I will tell you.” God does not send anyone to hell, we choose it by our actions. The old sayings, “Birds of a feaher flock together” and “water seeks its own level” are both truisms that illustrate that we create our own heaven or hell by our actions. While the three heavens mentioned in the Bible are actual places, HEAVEN itself is more a condition of the mind and spirit. Milton wrote, “the mind is it’s own place and in itself can make a heaven of hell or a hell of heaven” and Jesus said that “the Kingdom of Heaven is within you”. If you love God and know He loves you then you carry a bit of Heaven within you. In the great classic paperback book GOD CALLING edited by A. J. Russell, Jesus told a woman in England about 80 years ago that “your entire life is but a parenthesis in a sentence, in a paragraph, on the page of the book of your life. Birth opens the parenthesis, death closes it, then back to real-life history…” He went to to tell them her that she should remember that whenever she was experience failure or sorrow or even joy and success. It was all just a parenthesis. I see earth life as a school where we can learn great lessons if we are open to them. There is always a reason why we are the way we are and only God truly knows that. If you get to know Him as the Bible recommends He will teach you and take you on a journey that is unlike any other. Like any school the lessons are not always easy but if we are willing we will learn and we will be benefited. Read my much longer answer towards the beginning for a bit more (if you are interested). Just remember when you are ready for God He will be ready for you. You don’t have to be like everybody else or believe in this church or that one, but you do have to believe in God as He has painstakingly explained in the Bible over thousands of years, even hiding a great deal more in it that was only recently discovered by utilizing computer software. Much of what we think of as the future is already history to God. Isaiah, in the part of the Bible you can read without a computer, said “Whoever heard of such a thing, a nation born in a day?” between two and three thousand years ago and yet it wasn’t until May of 1948 when a nation that had not existed for around 2700 years suddenly came into existance again -in a single day – and that nation was not just any nation but the nation of the Bible, Israel. Jesus said “Seek and Ye shall find” so if you want to discover the truth, rather than imagine you have it already, you need to seek and study and search until you find what so many have found before you. You cannot earn God’s love. No one who ever lived is that good and besides love is not earned. You can of course continue on the path you are on but it doesn’t sound like it is one I would want to be on.

  • Al Sieber

    Since I live out in the Wilderness I don’t have a problem, the first mistake people make is to panic, 3 people died out here a few years back, they were 1 mile south of the I-40 freeway and 2-miles east of the Colorado River, their vehicle was stuck in the sand and they started walking with out any water, always stay with your vehicle, set the spare tire on fire if you have to, use your mirror to signal aircraft etc. every year people die out here in the desert within sight of help. I need to know how to survive in the city.

    • Tony

      Al, the way to survive in the city is to stay away!

      • Al Sieber

        Thanks for the advice Tony, I’ve been doing just that. staying away.

      • Concerned American

        would have to agree…. in the first days of any collapse the major cities become riot zones. Just look what happened in the first days after Katrina…

      • TIME

        TONY,
        Now thats funny, saddly I agree with you 100%.
        If it comes down to a complete break down, being in the city will be HELL on earth for anyone who can’t get out.

        What I find rather funny as I do enjoy a good long walk in the wild now and then is when I come on a group of CITY folks who have their GPS units and cells phones texting each other.
        What will they do when there is NO power, No cell tower to pickup the old cell phone, or any working satalites to get a GPS coordinate from, and NO pop tarts.

        • Tony

          TIME, my wife and I recently moved to New Mexico from sourthern Indiana. We had a few acres out in the country and were fairly self sufficient. Age and several old military injuries caught up with me and maintaining the place became more painful than pleasurable. We lived about half way between Indianapolis and Louisville, Ky. My plans were that if it ever hit the fan that we’d be in pretty good shape to take care of ourselves. What we started noticing was that more and more people out in the country there were relying on the government to live. They were becoming city people! Their answer to everything was to pray about it. We watched as the small town about 8 miles away deteriorated into drugs, welfare and foodstamps and everyones answer was to pray that god would get them through. We sold the place and moved away from all the crying, sniveling and arguing. We now live out in the middle of the desert where I can see for miles in all directions and are heavily armed and well stocked. I have good rational thinking neighbors that understand what it takes to survive. We can’t get a cell phone signal out here and I love it. The city folks from Albuquerque stay away because there’s no signal! There’s also enough free range cattle to supply us with meat for the rest of our lives.

          • Yankee Will

            Sounds like you found your own little personal piece of heaven there! Good luck to you!

          • Al Sieber

            Sounds like where I live Tony.

        • Granny Mae

          Time you have said it all with that post ! I don’t know what my granddaughter is going to do without her cell phone! She just can’t believe that grandma and grandpa live without a cell phone or don’t have our TV turned on all day long, or get this, HOW in the world can you just sit there and read a book ? Lots of people like her and I wonder what they are going to do ? Guess we will see huh ?

    • castaway

      Al in all honesty, the way to survive in the city, is to become a ruthless,vicious ANIMAL.

      • Rocky J Squirrel.

        castaway, You know the ratio is 80/10/10: 80% of initial survivers are sheeple, These will die within the first year. 10% are the Preditors(animals)that will feed off of the 80%, they will survive as long as there are easy prey. 10% are the true survivers, The leaders who have prepared for the worst but hope for the best. The forward thinkers who will be the new beginning if man is to survive in the long run. In a fight yes, one must be mad dog mean,it is life or death, but you must keep your head. Those that are prepared and use their brains, those will be the survivers.

    • Bruce D.

      Whether it is a survival situation or not it is always safer during the daylight than it is at night to go out in many parts of the city. There are those that sleep all day and look for victims in the dark of night.

    • Rocky J Squirrel.

      Al Sieber, Some people have no choice about leaving city areas, Family issues/health issues etc… And it is by no means the ideal situaion to be caught in when TEOTWAWNT happens, but once again the key to survival here, is all in the preperation. Be Prepared/Adapt//Improvise/Overcome. Don’t be one of the 80% who don’t have a clue. All the same rules apply, Water/Food/Shelter/Fire/Security/Communications and have a network, there is security in numbers, Ageat source of info is. Urban Survival Guide by David Morris. But just remember “BE PREPARED”…

  • http://ByGeorge By George

    This was not the best article on the subject. As some have stated above, for a group to survive, a pack leader must arise almost immediately and take charge. Otherwise the survivalist should get out ASAP or be dragged down by people who have watched too many survivor movies.The photo accompanying this article shows a camper with all his LL Bean gear. Is that a fire extinguisher I see? What if you don’t have any pots or pans or camp stoves or gas to run them. Can you build a fire or construct protection from the elements? This article is a disappointing conglomeration of silly nonsense.

    If one expects to survive such a senario as possibly faces us, then practice and hands on experience are required. Go get ‘em!

    • http://www.boblivingstonletter.com/ Bob Livingston

      Dear By George,

      I appreciate your thoughts on this article. However, I believe you may have missed the broader concept we are building here. Since it would be impossible to cover all one needs to know and do to survive in a crisis situation in just one article, our On Your Own section is laying a weekly foundation to cover the topic, one bit at a time. If you will click on the On Your Own link under the News and Article Categories section to the right of the Comments section, you can see what we have written on the subject since we started this feature a couple of months ago. With that context, I believe your thoughts on this article may change.

      If not, well, we’ll try and do a better job next time.

      All the best,
      Bob

    • 45caliber

      The article isn’t telling you how to survive; it is telling you how to be ready to survive.

    • Yankee Will

      Oh come on…fire extinguisher?! That’s the fuel tank for the stove the guy’s using!

      • Vicki

        You are correct that silver cylinder with the red top is clearly the fuel cylinder for the camp stove. That being said however the point George was making is still quite valid. What happens after the cylinder runs out of fuel? I don’t think the guy will be able to run to town and refill it.

        • Granny Mae

          Vicki,

          I think you are quite right. I have to laugh when I think about what ya’ll have said because the one thing that happened to me and my husband was a vacation that we took with my mother and dad one summer! We were going camping in upper Michigan! Dad packed the trailer and we supplied the car and some groceries ! We got up in the UP and went to set up the tent and dad had forgot to pack the tent poles !!! Quick wake up call as to what to do ? My husband and I were in favor of cutting some wood poles for the tent but mom won out when she said she wanted to go to a Motel and then go buy some poles in the morning ! Mom was not into ruffing it ! However my husband and I did a lot of camping in the years after that and we came across a lot of stupid hadships but we always tried to use our brains and improvise and we made it just fine. We even patched a hole in the radiator hose with adhesive tape one time ! Some people will always call those things disasters but we always looked at them as challenges !

  • DANNY

    Survival is a mindset. Since most of us have never had to face it, we dont know how we would react. But there are hints everyday on how you would fare in a survival situation. Some have the ability and some do not. Being mentally prepared would go along way.

  • http://http/aol.com john littlefield

    i could survive the native americans taught how to live off the land.

  • TimH

    I was fortunate (at the time I thought otherwise) to have done a week’s Survival camp in the bundu as a Boy Scout. We were then taken on a long walk into the bush (thinking that we were returning) and over a couple of days forced to put our training into practice. Mid winter in Zim was cold (of course no snow) but that taught me to think of mentally walking through each trip before hand and ensuring I had the right kit for emergencies.

    I have had a couple of incidences but being prepared changes the whole scenario. My SAK got my family out of serious problem twice fixing motor issues. Working in parts of Africa, West, Central and Southern have called for different mixes of kit. But always a SAK, maglites, water, fire tools and a fixed blade knife. Driving gives better opportunity to pack a sleeping bag, food and kit. I can’t comment on snow as I have never seen it. But simple kit, basic skills, can go a very long way to getting through or even avoiding crisis.

    • 45caliber

      The most basic survival kit is a good knife. Too bad all the youth are being taught that it is a weapon and not a tool.

      I used to go in medieval costume to schools to teach history. One of the things I would do was face a group, wearing half a dozen evident knives and carrying a short spear and tell them I was coming in peace since I was totally unarmed. Even some of the teachers took a few minutes to realize that those were tools, not weapons.

      • Vicki

        Even a gun is just a tool. I am the weapon.

  • Jeff

    Guys and Gals,

    I am sorry to burst your atheistic bubbles, but there is a soverign, jealous Almighty God who rules this earth and all its inhabitants within their crisis situations and will determine everyone’s survival odds with or without skills by his divine Providence. I will pray and trust in his mercy, while I do my best to skin a rabbit or take out a two legged miscreant with my rifle with the skills I have obtained through life’s experiences that the good LORD has led me through all these years.

    • RCK

      AMEM BROTHER!

    • Scott

      Amen!! The very first ability stated is to remain calm and collected. I realize that my belief in GOD will help me through whatever is thrown at me. Knowing He is there is my refuge and my calm. I have been fortunate to go through hardships and He has always been there to calm me down and make me think about the next step. Survival will not be hard as I have the most powerful thing in the universe with me Who has already pulled me through and continues to light the way. Do I prepare? Yes. GOD helps those who help themself.

    • Doc

      Jeff,
      Bless you. Yes, our Lord gives us challenges and He will help us if we but ask. I don’t expect Him to deliver a pizza to me in a survival situation, nor would I turn my back on Him when things get tough. I pray, regularly, that we will never have to be placed in a survival situation, and having had some extended training, I can assure the group that prayer is helpful as a way to focus, as a way to be more positive, (reflect on what is GOOD in the situation), and as a means to bring the group together. I would hope that y’all might find the “peach which passeth all understanding” this Christmas season. May the Lord bless you and keep each and ever one of you.

      • 45caliber

        Doc:

        Well said.

    • Steve

      I believe in God and trust Him also. He has been faithful to me BUT I also know that it’s a lot of work to prepare for what’s coming our way. It’s pure ignorance to think that I can ignore all the signs and the people that talk about preparing with the hope that all of those preperations will appear like presents under the tree at Christmas. Are you 3 years old or something??? Use your head man! The presents come from your parents. They worked for and bought all of them. God didn’t call us to live on welfare. We do our part and God does His.

  • noway

    And who would you want to lead your group out of a difficult survival situation? O bomb ma or Palin.

    • castaway

      Neither,as I would take the lead.

  • http://com i41

    You haver to learn all the time in life or death sistations. I have a problem with a person saying a prayer for strenght and guidance, to stay calm, assess and do something. Improvising is the hardest problem to over come for a lot of people. Wheather at their job or at any situation. Parents need to teach their kids to use items, at hand to get the job done. Also be prepared for emergencies with worst case senario. The idea of a cell phone not having coverage is a “duh” moment for some people. I have spent more than 3 days stuck in a remote area stuck in a snow bank across the road. Plus the most quite time was a 2 weeks with no power, melting water to drink and cook with, until heavy equip,emt could plow the road in to us. This was out on the prairie. We always have a thinningh of the genitic pool, every year durning the winter and spring snow storms

  • GOODBULL

    MUST HAVES WATER SHELTER=REST=CAN GO A LONG TIME WEEKS WITH OUT FOOD..

  • Sara P.

    Robin is half right. You do all you can, AND pray.

  • Santi

    For those who think that there is no GOD, I pray for you. I know that JESUS CHRIST is there for me at all times. He is the one who decides if you survive or not. He is the ALPHA and the OMAGA. He is at the end of everyones rope. GOD BLESS

    • Tony

      Santi, you pray, I’ll get busy surviving.

    • Mac

      Santi, there is a difference between Believing and Knowing. All that Faith requires is Believing. You Know nothing.

      • 45caliber

        Mac:

        Actually he knows a great deal more than you do.

  • Santi

    At least I know my soul will survive.

    • Tony

      Do you? Really?

      • Robin from Arcadia, IN

        Tony… Everybody’s soul will survive. It is what is left when our bodies are gone. Your choices while still alive will determine if your soul will survive in heaven with the the Almighty, or in hell with Satan. From your post I would determine you not to be a believer.

        • Tony

          Robin, you, like so many others miss the point entirely when it comes to atheists. We are not threatened by heaven or hell as we know that they both are myths. This leaves us with a distinctive advantage, we do not need to hesitate to ask for help from a mythical god. We are able to react immediatly through reason and not superstition. In a survival situation, any hesitation may well be your last. If you have it within yourself to make the tough choices then I guarantee you that you can find the answers to those choices without prayer.

          • 45caliber

            Anyone can. But why do it all yourself? Prayers do help – when you KNOW there is a God.

  • http://lomaur@cox.net Loretta E.

    I think we have been given the power to think for ourselves. Sitting praying, waiting for some one else to help you is ludicrous. Yes, I feel there is a superior force in our lives but the decision and ability to use our brains lies with us alone. I too pray that such a situation never occurs but smart people should at least be prepared for any emergency. There is no need to pray constantly if you sincerely believe God is there for you. You feel it in your soul.

    • Tony

      Loretta, you are absolutely correct. As an atheist I don’t have a need for a god but, I do understand that many people do. I have concerns for those that see their only answer to survival is prayer. I have watched many people’s lives fall apart as they prayed rather than take action and responsibility for themselves.

      • Robin from Arcadia, IN

        Tony and Loretta… You are not understanding this ‘religion thing’. God is our focus. I would pray to become grounded and have the ability to think it all through. I do not believe that the only answer to survival is prayer. I believe that it is the beginning of survival!

        • TimH

          God gave us our minds and freedom of choice. With it comes responsibility to use them properly,,,,,,

        • Tony

          Hey Robin, just one more thing. While you’re praying, see what you can do for amputees!

      • Granny Mae

        Loretta and Tony,

        I think a lot of people confuse prayer with asking for things! It is not. Prayer is simply talking with God and I do it all the time through out the day. I don’t wait for God to do my thinking for me. I am wonderfully made by his hand and very capable of thinking and doing on my own but there are times I have had to ask for his help and it has always been there ! Like the time my little boy was playing and stumbled over one of his toys and smacked his head on the kick bar on the front of the couch. His head opened up the size of a dime and the blood was spurting out in a steady stream ! I lived 20 miles from town and the car was empty of gas. I had not a dime in my pocket. I said a prayer and told God he would have to do something because I was in an impossible situation ! The mail man came just then and for some reason I had the urge to go to the mailbox ! I went and there was a letter from a woman that I called grandma. Inside the letter was a 20 dollar bill ! I took the money and got in the car and headed for the gas station on the way into town. I got to the gas station and the attendant came out and said lady our pumps are all off because they are working on the power lines down the road ! I said Lord just keep this car running till I get into town please ! I headed out of the gas station and before I could pull out onto the road the attendant came running out to me and said hey, the power just came back on so I can pump you some gas ! I backed up and got my gas and headed for the emergency room in town. We got there and the doctor put 5 stitches in my babys head ! That was just one day when God made a way when there was no way ! Another time I had an emergency and couldn’t find my keys to the car. I searched every where and finally I sat down at the kitchen table and looking out the sliding doors I said Lord I can’t find my keys please help me. I turned around and there was my keys laying on the table behind me ! I have no clue where they came from only God knows, but they wern’t there and then they were and I was on my way ! Do I believe in God and guardian angels? You bet I do ! I talk to them both every day !

        • Tony

          Granny Mae, soooo… you’re telling us that the same god that took the time to help you find your keys is possibly a different god than the one that allows people to suffer starvation all over the world? Do you take us for fools? Your proof of god is dismal at best. You simply lack the ability to accept reality.

        • independant thinker

          pay no attention to Tony Granny Mae for he knows nothing and you know the answer to all things.

    • 45caliber

      Loretta:

      You don’t have to sit to pray. You pray as you do what you can for yourself (and others) in an emergency. That seems to be a problem for some people (primarily those who are atheists) to understand. I don’t expect God to miraculously save me by Himself – I expect him to give me the ideas and the resources to save myself. So far he’s never let me down. Too many atheists believe God must be like Santa: you pray for something and you are to get it by a certain time. If you don’t, there can’t be Santa … or God. God provides a way – you just have to recognize and find it.

      • Barbara

        The first comment that makes any sense at all. Most of these people are in training to become the predators they claim are the threat to survival. Having been through many life threatening experiences, I, too, know how God preserves me. By giving me the knowledge and the courage to use it. And I am not so foolish as to think I did it all myself.

        • Granny Mae

          Barbara,

          You are my kind of gal ! In God we Trust !

  • Dan az

    The thought of survival is a mind set,the truth is not many people will survive not for trying but for actual survival you must be willing to go to extremes that I would bet that not to many here would have the moxy to do. Take for instance there was a guy that was trapped with his leg under a boulder there was know one around.Rather than sit there he was made to make a decision,die or cut off the leg with his pocket knife.He chose to live and he did survive.These types of decisions are what make a survivalist from some one that only thinks he can.Knowing how to survive is one thing but actually doing it is another.Do you have what it takes to not give up?

    • Al Sieber

      Dan, I never give up, thats why I made it this long, I face these situations every day.

  • Ralph

    Jeff you got it right, The trouble with all these brave souls that think they have control over everything is that they have never been in a real life or death situation. When you are airborn in an automobile at 100 mph and walk away, or laying on an exposed hill during an incoming artilary attack, you will know what helpless is, and survival from it will teach you that you ain’t much, and god has complete control. Praise the lord.

    • 45caliber

      Ralph:

      Well said.

  • http://com i41

    Ralph, you got that right, even in any area of your life, don’t think you have everything planned out. Or will go as you laid the plan out. Life will teach you are not in control, and if you think you are. life will kick you in the a$$ at sometime, just to show you whos boss. Really tough areas of your life is a way to show idoits who are so sure of their brain smarts that they aren’t but a pimple on a nate’s rear and pretty insignifacant in the realm of life.

    • 45caliber

      It’s like the green people – they are certain that man is the cause of all disasters in the world.

      I insist that man is simply a tiny insect as far as the world is concerned. And insects may change a very little in their immediate vecentity but they certainly can’t change the world by any significant way.

  • barbm

    i live in the city, so one of the first things i did when we thought there might be a melt-down on 1/1/2000 was find a friend who lives out in the country, then i bought a gun. there’s no reason to not pray, but God helps those who help themselves. He gave you a mind and body to use.

    • Rocky J Squirrel.

      barbm: Very Good. God helps those who help themselves. This should not really be a religous discussion. Personally I believe, there are those that don’t. But if you do believe or not, don’t count on God or the Goverment to bail you out. Hope and pray for the best but be prepared for the unthinkable. It doesn’t take a lot, just some forthought and determnation, Start now if you havn’t already. A lttle bit each week wll add up. Do some research on preparedness. Put a PLAN in place and Pray or not. It comforts me.

    • Michael J.

      barbm,
      I beleive it goes something like this:
      “Praise the Lord and pass the ammunition”

      • Alaskasense

        Amen

    • 45caliber

      This whole argument about God reminds me of an old story:

      A flood came up. One old man was living alone near the stream. A pickup showed up and offered him a ride elsewhere. “No,” he said. “I believe God will save me.”

      The water got into the house. He retreated to an upstairs level. People in a boat came by and offered him a ride. “No,” he said. “I believe God will save me.”

      The water got even higher. He climbed up on the tip of the roof to escape it. A helicopter came by to pick him up. “No,” he said. “I believe God will save me.”

      Finally he drowned. When he got to heaven, he asked God, “I believed you would save me. Why didn’t you?”

      God answered, “Well, I sent a pickup, a boat, and a helicopter. What more did you want me to do?”

      The real story of this is that the atheists simply don’t believe it is God who sends the rescue party – or gives you ideas to stay alive.

    • Richard Pawley

      God may well help those who help themselves, but He also helps those who cannot help themselves. It is up to us to accept what He gives.

  • Jon

    I believe that one’s faith can help keep up morale, and in some cases that could mean the difference between making a good decision and a bad one, or to keep going when you don’t think you can. That said, you’re still probably toast if you don’t think and act rationally. God is in charge, but as far as I know He never advocated stupidity or ignorance, and scripture has many references to being prepared and surviving in a wilderness (John the Baptist comes to mind – living on locusts and wild honey). Personally, I do believe that when all your preparations, skills, resources and mindset have been used up and you’re still faced with disaster – God is the final authority and can change the outcome. I’m a Christ follower (not a particularly good one, but I try), and an Eagle Scout (earned it 40 years ago). I’ve had survival skills since my youth, but became a believer fairly recently. Personally, since becoming a believer I have more confidence in my ability to survive a bad situation than I did when all I had was my skills, but that’s just me.
    As for being alone or with a group, generally speaking it’s better to band with others for defense, hunting, scrounging, a variety of skills and resources, etc., but it would really depend on the group whether you’d be better off alone or not. If you’re with a group that has some training and also has a good mindset (Scouts, military or former military, etc.)you’re better off. If you’re with relatively unskilled people who are pretty healthy and have a good mindset, you might be better off with the group even if you have to teach them a lot. If you’re with a group of whiny idiots with no skills and bad attitudes then my inclination would probably be to go off on my own and/or look for a better group.

    • 45caliber

      Jon:

      You are correct. Those who don’t believe in God have lost a good support in bad times. But that is their problem – not mine.

  • Polski

    I believe the Canterbury Tales of medieval times are probably too early for this Canterbury…….LOL…..

  • 45caliber

    One of the most likely ways someone would find themselves in a survival situation is if they got lost in the wild.

    The best way to get yourself un-lost is to go downhill. You will, if you go far enough downhill, find water and find either a road or a house. As I was told as a child, every water shed area will have a house near the stream somewhere before it reaches the ocean – and if you do reach the ocean you can follow the beach to find one.

    The biggest problem if finding food but you can go days without food. Water is far more critical. I grew up the in mountains – and even six-year-olds were able to get themselves un-lost without a lot of problem. In fact, we used to try to get lost simply to see where we might end up.

    • Rocky J Squirrel.

      Hey 45, That a pretty good rule of thumb but, Where I grew up all you generally found at the bottom of a mountan was the bottom of the mountain. Water was far and few in between and if you did find a creek/river it was about 300 mles to the ocean. But yes following water will usually lead you to help, just depends on where you are at.

  • Santi

    For all you CHRIST loving people, and those atheist, please read Matthew chapter 6 verse 25-34. I know you atheist have a bible and must read all the time. You know you read it because when a christian says to you something out of the bible and it is wrong you will come down on them like a rock. LOL GOD BLESS

  • JimH

    Sometimes to be thrown into a survival situation doesn’t require a major catastrophy. People get in their warm cars a start to drive over a mountain pass in the winter without any warm clothes, boots or gloves. Because they are going from their warm house, in a warm car, to another warm place why should they need any winter clothes? While going over the pass it starts to snow. The warm car slides into a ditch. There is no other traffic to offer help. In the mountains there is no cell phone reception and the pass is now closed due to snow. Some warm clothes, a sleeping bag and some food and a source to make a fire would save your life. How many people have a winter emergency kit in the car? Be prepared.

    • Granny Mae

      JimH,

      You are so right! You don’t even have to be in the mountains for that to happen. Years ago I made a emergency box for my elderly mom and dad because they were always getting in the car and going some place and they lived in northern Michigan. I put in some gloves and scarves and a couple space blankets because my mother couldn’t walk much and because of her bad feet she usually wore slippers. I could just see them in a ditch someplace and moms feet freezing ! I added a couple hand warmers and a few other things and gave it to my dad to put it in his car. That winter they did go in the ditch and had to wait for hours till someone came to help them and mom had been sitting there with no hat or gloves or anything for her feet. Come to find out dad had taken the box out of the car because instead of putting it on the floor he put it on the seat and it kept slidding around and it got on his nerves so out the box went ! Mom was close to being in a lot of trouble that time but things turned out alright. I was so mad at my dad for doing that. I told him the older he got the more stupid he got ! There he was with a hat and gloves but I knew mom wouldn’t have anything unless he thought to make her take them ! Even at that if they took them he would have to make her put them on ! I am a firm believer in carrying an emergency kit in every car !

  • ’53 Korean Vet

    Sometimes, you may have to take over a crisis to save someone else-!
    When I was 19, I was forced to make decisions to save another person!
    My Mother & I approached a ‘Dead-man’s’ curve just outside of a town, at night-! I was driving & saw just a glimmer of metal shining in the center of a 2-lane road-! I slowed down from 60mph to 30, there was a over-turned car in the middle of the hiway-! We’re the 1st car on the scene of a terrible accident-! Of course, we were able to stop at our slower speed. Two cars that were riding the yellow-line–met at the top of the hill in a head-on crash-! (It was a “blind-curve”-!)
    If you came toward the town, or came from town, nobody could see cars coming from the opposite direction–speed limits were 60mph! That’s what it took–to make the accident happen, plus both rode the yellow
    line-! I pulled our car off into the gravel shoulder, to go & see if
    I could render aid– We had a large 9-volt (spot)-flashlight & I took that with me, & left my mother’s car with our headlights lighting the
    accident-! I heard another car coming toward town & managed to ‘Wave’ him down with my ‘Spot-Light’-! 1st duty was to avoid having anyone else dog-pile into the accident, which would only make things worse-!
    The other driver also had his flashlight, & pulled well off the road-!
    With 2 of us now on the scene, I got him to flag down any cars coming from the town-! We got a 3rd car stopped, & then a 4th-! We sent one
    to go call the Police & a ambulance–back into town-! Meanwhile, we got a 5th car stopped! I gave him my spot-light & asked him to guard & stop cars coming toward town– So far, we had avoided having anyone
    else “Plow into the Mess”-! Another car stopped, & now–we had time to
    check on the victims-! An older man & woman was the car, which sweared
    off the hiway on the inside of the curve-! two of us looked, the man had gotten out of his car, but the old woman was unconscious behind the wheel-! Another two cars arrived, & two guys wanted to move the old lady-! And I said, “No! Left her alone! She’s got face-cuts from
    flying glass-but the cuts aren’t bleeding-! She’s not going to bleed to death-! But we don’t know from the impact–if she’s got internal injuries-! Wait ’til the Ambulance arrives, they’ll know better than
    we do-! If we try to remove her–we might put a broken rib thru her Lungs-! (So they stopped-) 2 of us went to the over-turned car! A guy was hung upside down–his foot in the clutch-pedal-! (Unconscious-!)
    His car-door took the impact of the crash & was seared shut-! There’s not enough of us to “Right” the car on it’s wheels, so we could get to
    the undamaged door to get him out-! Gasoline’s dripping down on the hot manifold, & starts a fire-! A young city policeman pulled up & I ran to his car & asked, “Do you have a fire-extinquisher-!?” He shouts
    “No, we don’t-!” (We’re at least Half a Mile from the nearest house, too far to bring water-& this guy’s going to be fried alive, unless we
    get that fire OUT-!) “Got to have Water-or he’s cooked-!” All of a sudden–a quick thought hits me-! The Crash had knocked off a part of the curved fender-! I grap the Fender & go over to the radiator-cap, & opened it to get enough water from his car to dump on the fire & to put it out-! Another Policecar comes, & I tell both policemen to put their cars at both ends of the Curve–with their red-lights flashing, So we can avoid any more crashes-! We’ve already got 2 flashlights, at
    both ends of the curve, waving cars down! A ambulance arrives, & the
    attendants check out the old woman, they say that she’s got her pevis
    broken in 5 places-! All of a sudden, another emergency–coming into town, a high whine above 70mph, this idiot-driver is ignoring the red
    lights flashing, flashlights violently waving–trying to warn him, he going to run right thru “This MESS”-! At the last minute, he sees the
    cars all around the road–he swears right at high-speed & almost turns
    over up on the upcut-turn side of the hiway–Lucky he didn’t hit any
    by-standers-! One of the Policemen goes upon the hill to talk to him,
    & the “Air turns Blue”-! This Idiot deserved it–by ignoring all of our “Safety Precautions” to keep this from happening-! 2nd Ambulance comes & now, we’ve enough people to set up-right the overturned car-!
    They remove the Guy from his vehicle–but at least, he wasn’t “Fried”!When things seemed to be under control, I went back to join my Mom, & we left-! But I never thought to ask–if any of these people were Democrats or Republican–I didn’t think it was important at that time!
    I just happened to be handy–& someone had to do something-! That does
    not make me Great-! I was just glad things turned out as well as they did-! I’d realized later–that one fool put all of our lives at risk!
    (Oh, my Training–I’d had two years at a Military School, where we’re taught to ‘Take-Over’ if nobody else shows up–to do it!)–But It’s a
    “Hard-Way” to get “On the Job-Training-!”

  • hj

    Unable to find anything on Amazon published or authored by Dave Canterbury….

  • independant thinker

    I would pose some questions to all of you. How many of you could safely cut and de-limb a tree with only an axe? How many could build any kind of shelter with only hand tools? How many know rudementary metal working so you could improvise a tool or repair one if needed? How many could build a simple still to make alcohol or distilled water?

  • Hidden Lion

    Tom Brown is a great source for survival information. He runs a famous tracking/survival school.

  • Jeff

    Lion,

    Can you provide us a web link to Tom Brown?

  • FreedomFighter

    Part of it is fitness.

    Kettlebells — very effective training, combined with Bowflex ultimate — try it you will like it.

    You will get fit.

    Laus Deo
    Semper Fi

    • Dan az

      Freedom fighter
      Kettlebells?????

      • FreedomFighter

        Kettlebells are amazingly effiecient and effective. see Youtube workout vids.

  • ARN001

    id jes whup his ass and take his shit..survival my ass, wheres his ‘ol lady at ?

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