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Surveys Reveals Americans May Be Torn Between Taxes And Health

June 9, 2010 by  

Surveys reveals Americans may be torn between taxes and healthA pair of recent polls has shown that there may be a growing tension between people’s desire to pay fewer taxes and their aspirations to live healthier lives.

Earlier this month, an Adweek/Harris Poll, conducted by Harris Interactive, found that 56 percent of Americans oppose a tax on soft drinks, and interpreted the result as suggesting that it reflects Americans’ weariness of new taxes. It also appeared to illustrate people’s displeasure at the idea that the government can use taxes to dictate what they eat or drink.

"They see the tax for what it is—a money grab to pay for more government. It’s time for lawmakers to bury this ill-conceived tax once and for all," said Kevin Keane, senior vice president of public affairs for the American Beverage Association.

However, a different poll, recently conducted in Philadelphia, found that 55 percent of likely voters in that city would support a tax of 2 cents per ounce on sugar-sweetened beverages, if funding was dedicated to support programs to combat childhood obesity.

"Childhood obesity is an epidemic in Philadelphia and across the country," said Andrew Hysell, project director for the Campaign for Healthy Kids, which commissioned the survey.

He added that "today’s children could be the first generation in United States history to live sicker and die younger than their parents’ generation," and that "the majority of Philadelphia voters support the sugar-sweetened beverage tax as part of a public health policy to combat the childhood obesity epidemic." ADNFCR-1961-ID-19823078-ADNFCR

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  • Ria

    Combating childhood obesity or forcing the public to go for artificial sweetners?

    • Richard Pawley

      A tax on sugar sweetened beverages? They already charge at least twenty cents more per glass bottle of sugar sweetened beverages than they do for the fructose or high fructose corn syrup (which is not the same as corn syrup) that is believed by reputable scientists to be responsible for epidemic of obesity in this nation, and those soda’s are hard to find, Sam’s Club and a few health food stores. HFCS is in almost everything. It’s impossible to avoid. Every major soda, every sweetened juice product, every jam and jelly made in the USA is made with HFCS. Cane sugar is expensive and that is why HFCS is in everything (made from Genetically Modified Corn of course that never existed in nature). I have even found HFCS in over-the-counter medicines. Tax it and tax those that contain the even worse chemical sugar substitutes. None are safe although the oldest, Saccharin, seems to be safer than the others if used in moderation. Hasn’t anyone read the NY Times best seller, SWEET DECEPTION? No, I didn’t write it but I think I could have. And if you want sugar make sure it’s CANE SUGAR because sugar beets have now been genetically modified as well. I even saw ‘artificial honey’ in the store last year. Soon we will be an ‘artificial nation’ if we keep going the way we have been. Does anyone realize that just this years deficit, $1.6 TRILLION DOLLARS – JUST THIS YEARS DEFICIT, will take 3,000 years to pay if we pay it at the rate of a million dollars a day? Congress and the president have no intention of paying it. Inflation of several hundred percent is the only way it can be paid and yet the 111th Congress continues to spend all they can borrow when they should be cutting spending like they were all going to starve if they didn’t. This spending is what made the Depression of the 1930′s the Great Depression and our Congress is working overtime to make this financial crisis the mother of all financial crisis’s. BUT THEY LOVE US AND ARE JUST TRYING TO CARE FOR US AND HELP US! The result is going to be riots in the streets IN THIS COUNTRY in a few years, just like in Greece. 30,000 union members and their families marched in New Jersey a few weeks ago but to their credit they were peaceful. What will happened when the price of food and fuel triples? We are headed for massive inflation and it seems that Congress, Democrats (all but a very few) and even some so-called Republicans are trying to crash the economy and the dollar. I will leave it to the Conspiracy Theorists as to why they are trying to do that. Some in Congress even have young children who will not escape the suffering their parents are creating, which leads me to believe they really are ignorant of what they are doing. Our only hope is all new people in Congress in November. We need members of Congress who work for us and not the 36,000 lobbyists who pay them so well. The current system of spending what we don’t have is terminal – even the president has said it is unsustainable. Look up “terminal” and “unsustainable” in the dictionary if you don’t understand what those words mean. In the meantime learn all you can to take care of your own health because where we are headed is not going to be like Canada or England. It will be much worse and they are already saying that the Republicans are not going to over-turn the health and wealth destroying socialized medicine that Congress squeaked through in March, so you can see we are all going to be poorer and less healthy when Congress is through. Save these words, print them out, so you can explain to your grandchildren why you didn’t even try to stop this when it might have made a difference. November or Never! That’s my new slogan! Do all you can to learn to take care of your own health. May God bless America because no one else is going to do so.

      • Johanan

        what about beer? Let it be taxed more also. How many innocent blood has been shed by drunk drivers all over the country? Put a 10% tax beer and all other adult beverages and put the money on health care. Who is paying for the medical attention of those beer victims?

        • marvin

          Johanan, the trouble with taxing any thing is the money never getts to were it was intended like ss and medacare,and like the lottery i can remember when states like illinois and fla 30 or so years ago were pushing for lotterys,the push was, are schools will never want or need agin how,s that working out, you can not tax or legislate morality i do not drink or smoke i sometimes drink a soft drink,but that is my choice, the ansure is if you have sex with no protection you will have kid if you have kid they are your responsible to raise not mine you feed kids hotdogs/hamburgers pizza,s/french fries and cokes you get back just what you invest fat people,i am sorry i said fat i should have said obes, we can not have anyone thinking i am not politiclally correct, as for alcohol and smoking if you take all the pain and hurt and death and lost wages and damage to life and limb you tell me what is the cost, i say the over use of any thing if it be sugar/alcohol/cigarettes/the over all cost is more then what is made from tax or the sell of, the main thing is over use,if you do all things in moderation from having kids to drinking to what ever you do, if you live by the words moderation small little, life is so much better, you and only you are accountale for your actions

  • http://gmail i41

    Another feel good screw up. The wimpy phyicos that think they have all the answers, sit on your butt and play electronic games, and don’t move a muscle. No tag games, no phyical activity but, walk to their rooms and to the bathrooms. We have a nation of soft wimpy kids, if they play activity games and had recesses, they might get an owee or made even a scratch. Instead of singing kum by ya and um, um, um um, and do militery exercises for even 1 hour a day, every day. The damn idea government, can tell us what to eat, and some wonk wants to tax anything, to pay for ol purple lips and his big mamee, and plan new ways to pay for their socialist plans. When is enough government crap, enough for the USA citizens to wake up.

    • John S.

      I have been following this coverage for a while now and it has reached a point where I just have to make a comment. At the outset, I must say that I am a life long conservative and I have served my community for35 years in the area of health care delivery and public health. As a result, I think that I have a valid perspective.

      The health care education in this country is paid for (even in private universities) to the toon of 80%+ by the public through the Fed. tax base. There is no public service requirement for the graduates with some exceptions for accepting public health or military grants. It is a free for all. The Physcians in the US make 2-5 time their contemporaries anywhere else in the World. 70% of the cost of health care here is labor. The Physicians make up about 8-10% of that labor pool but extract 65-70% of the money spent. Our hospitals are corporate machines now with required return on investment. The insurance companies take their 10-20% of the premiums. The health outcomes in this country rank at the bottom of all industrialized nations yet we avoid standardization and employing best practice of care. We do all of this at a cost of twice the next measurable country. This is NOT a new situation. Please people, you are blaming those who are trying to do something. Big pharma, the hospital corporations, the AMA and big insurance don’t want any change. Why? Because it cuts into the cash cow. The only reform the physicians want is tort reform. It represents 1-2% of the problem.

      Ask why we don’t have a public health mandate to match physician type with real need. Most Physicians want to be a specialist and we need primary care Docs. What do we end up with? More speciality care. Why? They make more money. Ask why we have not expanded the size of the medical schools to match the population. Why? The AMA and the physician membership wish to control supply and demand, pushing salaries up at twice the national average.

      The folks who you do not want to help p[ay for are being cared for but in the emergency rooms at the peak of their illness. This costs on average 5-7 times the rate in a primary care setting if caught early. Preventative care is looked down at because our current system rewards treatment.

      I find it interesting that many of the people who have Medicare want it for themselves but vote to deny the same dignity of care for others. The only way to bend the curve in cost is to cover all citizens, address the real driving elements of the issue, utilize best practice models of treatment and care, provide better access for primary care with a shift from high priced specialty services and measure the outcome.

      So, excuse me if I ask those with mean spirited comments and knee jerk responses to consider the truth. None of us want to pay more. In simple terms, if we don’t change the oil and do the preventative things on our cars, they will break down and we will walk it alone.

      Please use this to stimulate thought and not to attack others, whoever they might be.

      • Anthony

        Corporate Welfare and Lobbyists drain any type of real competition in the Medical Marketplace — this is the real drain on our Health Care — not to mention how many times a Hosptial will double-bill a patient (on purpose).

        There is no competition against each other in Medicine – it’s the same agreement that was fostered by Rockefeller, JP Morgan and Henry Warburg when they sat down and illegally created THE FEDERAL RESERVE. The connived between themselves to STOP competition in Banking and went on to rake billions (no.. trillions) from the Consumers. They also saddled us with this 20 year cycle of Prosperity and Depression… [Look it up]

        BIG PHARMA is rigged to help people to the grave, based on the same premise the Banking Cabal is assuring we are all paupers.

        If it isn’t High Fructose Corn Syrup… it’s ASPARTAME
        Both are in just about everything you eat – if it is processed, that is.
        ASPARTAME also comes under several other extremely long chemistry names
        ASPARTAME turns to Wood Alcohol once it’s in the human body – TOXIC
        Once it morphs into wood alcohol, it breaks the blood-brain barrier and causes holes in your grey matter.. this stuff is in baby food, folks. Tell me why they would want to do that?

        Aspartame was forced onto the American Consumer by Rumsfeld, himself, while he was head of JD SEARLE (Chemical Co) – and ultimately sold around the world – by decree of (guess who) the CFR and Bilderberg. Why?? Because they knew it was toxic and would therefore bring in more $$$-millionsdue to (now) necessary healthcare. It is generally deduced that Aspartame is the cause of Diabetes, MS, Autism, etc. Almmost all neurological diseases, which began to spike in the late 1970′s. Check the incidents of diabetes in 1980, and then see what they were in 1990. Aspartame was a really product in dozens of foodstuffs beginning in 1983. It is highly suspected that Ronald Reagan’s jellybeans had enormous amounts of Aspartame in them, which hurried his alzheimers disease.

        Try watching: SWEET POISON

        All they need to is pull those synthetic chemicals off the market and Americans across the board would immediately begin to get healthier, almost right away. Read the dam(n) labels, people.

        As for taxes ?? How about you demand your Representatives quit spending like drunken sailors while in Office (especially on themselves).

        BTW – the 16th Amendment is ILLEGAL … read the Constitution

      • http://?? Joe H.

        John S.
        How many of those on medicare had money taken out of their pay whether they wanted to or not? My wife and I have paid for over 40 years into social security and when we get to the age to collect
        (myself 5 years and wife 8 years) it most likely won’t be there to collect. I could have taken that money and put it with the money I invested and gotten at least a decent return. this way, I get nothing! If the government could keep their hands off any money at all it still would be there for at least another 40 to 50 years!!

      • marvin

        John S. i find it interesting you bring up medicare i have thru pay roll ded. paid in to medicare from it,s inception am now old enuf to use it if i had died befor reaching 65 it would like ss be lost [ss payes $255 death ben]in your way of thinking just let ever one on the goverment [medicare]plan, so like ss and medicare both are broke from mismanagement by the people in charge our goverment and freud , their are 20 million illegals in this country that use the er, will putting citizens on medicare stop this no, will it stop illegals from having 6/7/8 kids no and who is paying the [er/child birth] bill for illegals how much in dollars 100 billion 500 billion 800 billion you are one of the few that think obamcare will work your goverment can and will screw up a wet dream

  • Pete

    To Says :
    People are waking up. No one wants to pay more taxes. They are just simply a way to control the masses. If conservatives can get a majority in the house and senate come November then we need to immediately shit can Obama care , cap and tax, and all the other abusive taxes. The idea of taxing soda is simply insane.
    In 2006 the repubs were asleep while the ultra, far left radical liberals took control like a swarm of cock roaches. It is now to call in the exterminators and clean up the putrid mess they made.

    • Anthony

      THIS IS WRONG — all Politicians who are anywhere on Committees of Control over our way of life – never get there unless they are approved by the CFR.

      In 2004, you had one CFR Member [GW Bush] runing against his cousin, another CFR Member [John F Kerry].

      Since its creation – only Gerald Ford and Ronald Reagan were not actually members of the CFR. And, yet, …look who they surrounded those two guys with…. Kissinger, Rumsfeld, Cheney, etc, etc, etc, etc. If you look up the Membership List(?).. all sorts of people belong.. but it’s highly compartmentalized, just like the Military and over 80% don’t even know the real agenda….

      Do your homework, dude!

  • J.M.R.

    once again the corrupt government sticking their noses where they don’t have the right to stick it. yes good libs have the solution tax,tax, and more tax well i say stick the new taxes where the sun doesn’t shine. you moron libs to stay in your own back yard.


    Childhood obesity starts at home. If the parents can’t monitor what they feed their children, what makes anyone think the government can.
    Get a grip parents – this is your problem!!

  • Don Tremaine

    Even though I drink on average 6 to 10 sodas a year, I still this it is wrong to increase taxes on this product. America stands for freedom first. If I want to kill myself by smoking drinking and eating all bad stuff; that is my RIGHT. The government has no authority to tax or prohibit things to control it’s consumption. This is the Obama/Marxist agenda playing out. We as Americans should demand that the government stop this insanity by voting them all out of office. Every single person who voted for Obamacare. Every single person who voted that we could not drill for oil in safer areas than extremely deep ocean should be voted out. Anyone who thinks that they know what’s good for Americans through social justice should be voted out. Everyone who believes that redistribution of wealth is good for the economy should be voted out. Anyone who believes that the progressive punitive taxing in America is good for the economy should be voted out.

    • BigBadJohn

      I agree you should be able to smoke, drink and eat as much as you want. However, statistics show that people who smoke, drink excessively or are obese, cost medicare a lot more than people who live healthier lives.
      Should someone who is health conscious be forced to pay for your bad habits? Or is it more reasonable for you to pre-pay through use taxes for your poor choices?

      • Anthony

        Those who disrespect themselves early on… die that much sooner.

        • jimjimny

          Do they become child molesting religous freedom fighters like the bunch of disrespectfull inhabitants of the Waco compound that this article defends.
          Or are they the people who as terrorists are all homegrown or in possession of a greencard as most Americian terrorists are.
          One of the thing most disappointing about your nation and 9/11 is your complete inability to connect the event with your own failures.
          So to all you religous fundemantalist Americians particularily those who sent money to the IRA and support the Isreali. GWB says you should be hunted down. So should his father who along with Reegan and co sent 6 billion a year into desabilising Pakistan and funding the Mujahadeen which became the Taliban and supported AlQueda you reap what you sow as it says in the great books of many religions.

          • http://?? Joe H.

            you keep saying our nation our country. If it isn’t your country as well, then why don’t you shut up and go home!!!

          • marvin

            jimjimny, you sir just being nice have your rights or do you from your post you are ether un american or none american most likly none if you do not like what we say and do, leave or you will find their are a whole lot of red neck that will put a boot in your arss so go post on the daily kos or move on .org obama will be out in 2012 and the next pres will hunt you down and send you back or lock you up so leave now and save time and money

  • http://gmail i41

    Tax on soda will be just like a vat. They tax you for the soda, and if you don’t keep running, they try and tax your weight. Next your estate will get taxed for giving someone else your space, your ashes or burial will enrich the groung, more vat costs. The government will get you coming and going in life, what a socialist plan!

  • RivahMitch

    So @ $.02/oz, we’re basically talking a quarter for a (12 oz) can TAX so that some authoritarian a$$holes can get more money to assume more authority over more lives… Another bad deal from Governments, Inc… All this as “liberals” rush to embrace their Brave New World where everything not forbidden is required and everything not required is forbidden but, of course, it’s “for our own good”.

  • http://gmail i41

    BBJohn, If you have to buy you own insurance, I could care less what you do. If I’m forced to buy into universal health care, I will not have to worry since if you get sick and start going to hell in a hand basket, you will not have a chance, grab a rope and start looking for a big tree!

  • gregory

    it seems

    that the idea of taxing citizens on any thing they can tax us on is the norm in dc, they have groups on the tax payer payroll that sit around all day to dream new ways to take more of your hard earn’d money out of your wallet, kind of like the scumbag pickpocketers in the big cities that have time to plan there next heist. the reason the kids these days are fat and lazy is because there parents have fallen down on the job of training there fatass kids to get outside and ride a bicycle or play a game of baseball, or go fishing down at the local creek, or any outdoor activity that will keep this new generation of fat kids away from video games and television. its the parents duty to controll what there fat kids eat or drink–not the money grubbing thug pimps in the government, its the parents fault that there fat kids have no life other than a babysitting television to keep them occupied. instead of taxing me for a ocassional soda–the government should take away the tax breaks that parents get for crapping out kids at a record rate and not raising theses kids to be productive young adults with work ethics and common sense. why should the rest of us have to pay for the mistakes made by lazy parents not raising there kids right, we are being punished for the lack of parrenting by others, that isnt to fair and we should not put up with it ever, i suggest the next time you see a herd of fat kids at the wallmart running around uncontroll’d and dissrespecting other shoppers–we should band together with other shopers and confront the parents of these fat kids and give them some trainning on how to raise a respectfull and productive child with moral ethics and respect for there bodys, maybe teach the parrents to not be afraid of spanking that fat kid in public. the hillary clinton school teaches everyone that it takes a village to raise a child—well if that is the case then shouldent we be allowed to spank those kids as well when there parrents fall down on the job. for the gov pimps to impose a tax on everybody else because these lazy parrents cant controll there fat kids food and bev intake–is crazy, the more logical thing to do by the gov would be to take away the tax breaks these fatty raisers get for having these out of controll marshmellow chubbys …

    • jimjimny

      I dont see Coca/Pepsi/Scweppes/Cola/Soda leaving the other developed g20 economies that almost all tax and redistrubute.
      Taxation strangly also pays foe law and order and the military half the US military could give you guys healthcare as good as the French and pensions as good as Sweden.

      • http://?? Joe H.

        how about you learn sentence structure so human beings can understand what you are trying to say!!!!

  • Marilyn

    Higher Taxes to businesses = higher prices to consumers. When consumers cannot purchase products because of cost, the businesses fold and more job losses. It’s just that simple Folks. Where do you think businesses get the extra tax dollars? That’s right. CUSTOMERS PAY. If businesses do not want to increase product price, they have to lay off employees to find the tax dollars. “Job Losses!” Small businesses will be hit the hardest. Most new small businesses do not turn enough net profit for at least 4-5 years. Just when they see light at the end of the tunnel and owners think they might receive a pay check, along comes increased taxes! Been there and done that! And it’s happening again!

    During Recessions, taxes cannot be increased! If Congress thinks that is how they will increase their paychecks or dollars given to the unemployed or pay for the healthcare they deem so wonderful for everyone, they are more screwed up than I thought.

    • blamesomeoneelse

      Marilyn, they are more screwed up! Need to replace as many as we can. Then get the purse strings away from them and cut there pay. Vote, and get friends to vote…

  • s c

    We have a ringer in the crowd, folks. Anyone who’s a braindead, big government fan to claim that it’s a good idea to ‘pre-pay’ taxes in an attempt to control behavior is a FIRST-CLASS LOSER [by CHOICE!].
    How many of you think higher taxes result in better government? How many people think government should have the last decision in categorizing behavior?
    If we have to choose between higher taxes and being healthy, you can bet the farm that the situation was CREATED by a bloated, incompetent government.
    Where is it written in the CONSTITUTION that we need to suck up to a CORRUPT government or be seen as less than patriotic? SCREW UNCLE SCAM and ALL who think it’s better to submit than to be FREE!

  • http://PersonalLibertyDigest enough?

    i am new to making comments about what is happening in America. But…

    every day there is some ‘new’ area of concern for Americans.
    This is not ‘Sustainable’. Not just financially, but our Freedom is under assault in every area…i do not want to imply some fanatical viewpoint, but in example…every day we find more reasons that the ‘HealthCare (Insurance) REFORM’ is going to be a disaster financially, but…more importantly: persons over 50 are going to be excluded from major health needs, which can cost them their very lives. The dailey ‘NEW’ information points to evenmore serious problems with this HCR…PLUS look at Canada’s recent admission about their ‘HealthCare’(America’s is VERY similar) that is bankrupting their country.
    Again, we continue to focus on things that are not as important right now when we have men and women without jobs and their unemployment benefits are no longer remaining.
    AMERICAN’S NEED JOBS. when is enough really enough?

    • http://?? Joe H.

      Canada’s health care bankrupting them???? Somebody quick, tell CanadianAmerican!!! He/she says everything is just peachy keen on their health care!! YEAH WRIGHT!!!

  • http://msn Dale

    Higher taxes for a healthier life? That isn’t possible, go to a country where they have high taxes and you will find malnourished people, only the rich people in those countries have proper nutrition. Europe is the best place to see this. I have lived there and visited many times.
    “An epidemic of childhood obesity” evidently he hasn’t been around schools. Obese children are hard to find and for the most part it is an inherited trait. In my neighborhood the number of obese children is 0, where are these children being hidden?
    These are the usual lies to try to convince us that we need to pay higher taxes. The only reason they want us to pay higher taxes is so they can steal more of our money to put in their pockets. Compare the number of politicians who have gone to prison to the number of people you know that have gone to prison.
    If our politicians cared about people living longer lives they would support an all out effort to eliminate illigal drugs. Illigal drugs are becoming the number one cause of premature deaths, look at the number of people in Hollywood dieing premnaturely from drug abuse, and the number of deaths in crime associated with the drug trade.


    To add more burden to the tax payer, if you have a paid medical plan such as one garnered from retirement, by 2012 this will become a part of your IRS income and be taxed as regular income, so if you are say budgeted and protecting a part of your income by various shelters and pay a small amount in taxes on that budgeted income, then you will be forced to pay more in the near future and your medical will be a liability…..How’s that for redistribution, hope and change…While the fake prez and his cronies live it up you and I are going to take it in the shorts while we pay for their good times.

  • http://gmail i41

    Since we have so many lawyers and feel good pee brains that think making kids work durning the summer, or anytime they are in school, is sooo damn harmful to their image. This is where is where we get fat kids. Kids can not take a lawn mower and mow lawns, unless they are bonded and licensed. If you look at uncle drunk pervert Teddy Kennedy’s mountains of regs, and how the dems covered for unions, to not let kids work until they were at least 18. In the 70′s the government decided kids under 16 couldn’t drive a self propelled lawn mower, in the 80′s they couldn’t operate anything over 16 horse power, in the 90′s businesses had to limit what jobs kids could do, by increasing isurance on even kids that carried grociery or worked as a waiter, by limiting what and how many hours they could work. The dems have help create lazy, poor work attitudes,and get pay for doing nothing mind set. Now only the dems own the lack of jobs and the BS stimulas and health care mess. Still waiting for the noodle minded, muslim loving democrats defend this giantic slump as more jobs are lost.

  • chuck b

    DHIMMITUDE Had never heard the word until now—Type it into Google and start reading… Pretty interesting. Then type it into and see what they say about it. Note that Muslims and certain other religions may be exempt from the ObamaCare penalties and will be supported by law. We are surrendering from within! BHO is leading us right down the path to total control!
    Word of the Day: Dhimmitude

    Dhimmitude is the Muslim system of controlling non-muslim populations conquered through jihad. Specifically, it is the TAXING of non-muslims in exchange for tolerating their presence AND as a coercive means of converting conquered remnants to islam.

    The ObamaCare bill is the establishment of Dhimmitude and Sharia muslim diktat in the United States . Muslims are specifically exempted from the government mandate to purchase insurance, and also from the penalty tax for being uninsured. Islam considers insurance to be “gambling”, “risk-taking” and “usury” and is thus banned. Muslims are specifically granted exemption based on this. How convenient. So I, Ann Barnhardt, a Christian, will have crippling IRS liens placed against all of my assets, including real estate, cattle, and even accounts receivables, and will face hard prison time because I refuse to buy insurance or pay the penalty tax. Meanwhile, Louis Farrakhan will have no such penalty and will have 100% of his health needs paid for by the de facto government insurance. Non-muslims will be paying a tax to subsidize muslims. Period. This is Dhimmitude.

    Dhimmitude serves two purposes: it enriches the muslim masters AND serves to drive conversions to islam. In this case, the incentive to convert to islam will be taken up by those in the inner-cities as well as the godless Generation X, Y and Z types who have no moral anchor. If you don’t believe in Christ to begin with, it is no problem whatsoever to sell Him for 30 pieces of silver. “Sure, I’ll be a muslim if it means free health insurance and no taxes. Where do I sign, bro?”

  • paul

    What Ever Happend to The Right to Life?? Can You have Life With out eating and Drinking??
    Is not the SAME Power to Tax the Power to destroy ?? When You Give Up The Tax That Belonged to You, Did they Not Take away YourRight to spend Your Money??
    What Vomit is Leftin Ameica to codone 24 cent tax on a 12oz. Soda and Allow 281 Federal Taxews on evry Mouth full of Food Since The Mass Murder Woodrow Wilso and F.D Roosevelt put in on Yor food ??
    Do you Still THINK hae Free speech,If you Eat Federal and State Taxed food?? Or Do You Now Have FEE Speech??
    Do You Really Suport The Constitution ,Or The Zionisat Communist Manfesto and Brag You are FREE??
    Will You Celibrate The FOURTH of JEW LIE AND SING ‘IAm Proud To Be an American????????At LEAST I KNOW I HAVE HE FEE??

  • paul

    As the Quanity of Anti American,Anti Christ,Zionist Communist, Influance and Laws Increase,The Quality of Life,Freedom Liberty, and the Production of American Products Has an Will Decrease.
    A Niggard is Not a Color. and if it was ,it Would Be Poluted Corupted Vulgar And Offensive.Any American Who Doese not Know That Pearl Horbor Was Caused By the Same People Who Had the World trade CenterBlown Up the Atemted Sinking of the U.S.S. Libery and Took aay Your Freedom Are,and I Say it Again “ARE NIGGARDS”,
    As was th Sinking of the Louistania,Gulf of Tonkin,and The Zionist Jews Sinking the U.S.S.Liberty in 1967 or Them Blowing up the King David HOTEL in 1947 that Murderd Civilianns and British to Get the land By Force that belongs to the Pallastinians Citizens Wether AethistJew,Muslims Christian or Orthdox Cristian Catholica

    • http://?? Joe H.

      do you give a seig heil with that???

      • Paul

        No Niggard Joe H.,
        I Do No Say Zieg Heil
        Who Do You Think Gave Adolf Hitler the Money to Build The Naszi Party WQhen Germaney Was Broke Uless It was Your Relatives The Anti Go Jew Bankers That wanted him to Kill all Kinds of People as you and They Did
        There is Noting More Brain dead then a Person Who suports the Overthow of his Nation and the Give away of Other peoples Rights, Life and Property,or Fights an undeclared War
        I say as what was said ” No King But Jesus Crist in 1776″ and to You
        In the Year Of Our Lord Jesus Christ June 9,2010 A.D.
        Do hope You Celibrate The Fourth of JEW LIE

        • http://?? Joe H.

          son I have fought for this country and voted as conservative as possible since I was 18 and I’m 59 now. I have believed in Christ as my Savior all my life as I was brought up to from the time I could first understand. By the way, Christ is spelled with an H and it is capitalized so perhaps you should slow down and concentrate before you accuse me of being anti jew or not in support of our founders! I believe in our constitution very strongly and I don’t use racial lables at all so don’t darken my doorstep with that either!

          • libertytrain

            JoeH I believe as best I can tell from his missed letters etc, he is anti-Jew and not dealing with a full deck.

          • http://?? Joe H.

            If you can tell all that, then you are definately doing better than me!!

  • Anthony

    The Fractional Banking System has one final result.

    Margaret Thatcher once said -
    And I will go on criticising Socialism, and opposing Socialism because it is bad for Britain — and Britain and Socialism are not the same thing. (…) It’s the Labour Government that have brought us record peace-time taxation. They’ve got the usual Socialist disease — they’ve run out of other people’s money.
    In a speech to the Conservative Party Conference (10 October, 1975)

    [This was later para-phrased to become: The Trouble with Socialism, is eventually you run out of Other People's Money!]

    Socialists cry “Power to the people”, and raise the clenched fist as they say it. We all know what they really mean—power over people, power to the State.
    Speech to Conservative Central Council (15 March, 1986)


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