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Supreme Injustice

May 19, 2010 by  

Supreme Injustice

“Presidents come and go, but the Supreme Court goes on forever.” President William Howard Taft

President Barack Obama is covering all the bases when it comes to forming his Supreme Court, an institution which will leave his stamp on America long after he has left office.

Gay rights activists are quick to laud the President’s latest pick for the high court, Solicitor General Elena Kagan. The nomination of Kagan comes one year after Obama’s first selection for the court, Sonia Maria Sotomayor. Latinos loudly applauded that nomination. Gays are downright giddy over Obama’s decision to replace John Paul Stevens with Kagan.

Kevin Cathcart, Lambda Legal Defense and Education Fund’s executive director, believes Kagan holds “a strong position” in opposing the military’s ban on gays.

During her confirmation as solicitor general last year it was revealed that Kagen had tried to bar military recruiters from the campus of Harvard Law School while she was dean. Even though Kagan was part of the Clinton administration she was never a fan of Clinton’s policy of “Don’t ask, don’t tell.” It seems that this academic nominee (she has never been a judge and she has only practiced law for two years) believes that being openly gay is good, even if it impedes national security as many in the armed forces believe.

Kagan told the Judiciary Committee last year that in her view, “the exclusion of individuals from basic economic, civic, and political opportunities of our society on the basis of race, nationality, sex, religion, and sexual orientation (is injust).”

With control of 59 votes in the Senate, Democrats should be able to win confirmation. However, if all 41 Republicans vote together, they could block a vote with a filibuster.

Joe Solmonese, Human Rights Campaign president, said Kagan’s selection fulfills Obama’s promise to promote “diversity” on the court. There can be little doubt of that. Last week The Washington Post asked in a headline: “Can men still be appointed to the Supreme Court?”

If we assume that the pool of possible nominations includes equal numbers of equally qualified men and women, then the nomination of two women consecutively has a one in four chance of occurring. But the kicker for Kagan getting nominated is her close personal relationship with the President. In fact Obama introduced the former Harvard Law School dean as "my friend."

"Elena is widely regarded as one of the nation’s foremost legal minds,” Obama said. “She’s an acclaimed legal scholar with a rich understanding of Constitutional law. She is a former White House aide, with a life-long commitment to public service and a firm grasp of the nexus and boundaries between our three branches of government."

I don’t know what having a firm grasp on the nexus and boundaries means, but it sounds like something that would be bandied about at a Mensa meeting. And while I will never be invited to that group of geniuses, I am smart enough to understand that when it comes to consolidating power, Obama resembles leaders from Caesar Chavez to Fidel Castro; friends come first.

The never-married 50-year-old Kagan is not only a close friend to the President but also shares many of his ideals. Kagan clerked for one of the Supreme Court’s staunchest liberals, Thurgood Marshall, and was a research assistant for one of the greatest legal defenders of gay civil rights, Laurence Tribe. She was also a staff member on the Dukakis for President Campaign in 1988. The defeat of Dukakis set back gay rights for 20 years, but with Obama and now Kagan, another minority is set to take swift strides.

As MSNBC pointed out, “Kagan has the chance to extend Obama’s legacy for a generation.” And every bit as alarming as that is the likelihood that Kagan is a supporter of even greater executive powers.

The Court’s Lurch To The Left
In 1952 Supreme Court clerk and later Supreme Court Chief Justice William Rehnquist wrote that the Court should not strike down Jim Crow laws. Rehnquist also said that Brown v. Board of Education should not find that minorities do not have a constitutional right to the same treatment as the majority.

Rehnquist wrote: "To the argument made by Thurgood Marshall [in Brown v. Board of Education] that a majority may not deprive a minority of its Constitutional right, the answer must be made that while this is sound in theory, in the long run it is the majority who will determine what the Constitutional rights of the minority are."

I wonder if it was not Rehnquist’s ideas that were sound only in theory. It seems less and less that it is the majority deciding its future. Consider the immigration law passed in Arizona, SB 1070. A CBS poll showed that 60 percent of American’s don’t think the new law—which is bound to include profiling—is too extreme.

Yet our President has announced opposition. Obama held a reception at the White House on May 5—Cinco de Mayo Day—where he denounced Arizona’s new immigration law. Obama announced that he has instructed his administration, "To closely monitor the new law in Arizona, [and] to examine the civil rights and other implications that it may have."

Furthermore, U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder confirmed that the Justice Department is deliberating whether to file suit against the Arizona law, either on the grounds that it violates the Supremacy Clause or Federal civil rights laws. But during a Congressional hearing May 13, Holder admitted he had not even read the law.

It doesn’t look like Arizona will back down and, in the wake of the past 17 months in office, it appears doubtful that Obama will either.

Congressman Ted Poe (R-Texas) accuses the Obama administration of doing more to secure the borders of foreign countries than its own and called for immediate action to reverse that.

“We want the National Guard to be armed and defend themselves if necessary and to assist the border patrol and local law enforcement," said Poe.

Republican Gov. Jan Brewer—who signed the bill—has said Arizona must act because Washington had failed to stop the flow of illegal immigrants and drugs from Mexico. Arizona is home to nearly half a million illegal immigrants and is the nation’s busiest gateway for illegals and drugs.

Yet Congressman Raul Grijalva (D-Ariz.) said that Republicans are using the issue to divide the country. "We’re here to say it’s time to deal with comprehensive reform realistically and begin the process of healing this country.”

For things to work out for Grijalva, the city of Phoenix may have to live up to its name and raise the dead. According to Brian Ross of ABC News, “Phoenix, Arizona has become the kidnapping capital of America, with more incidents than any other city in the world outside Mexico City, and over 370 cases last year alone.”

In the end expect this dispute to land on the steps of the Supreme Court; a once non-partisan institution that Obama is trying to stack with minority rights activists such as Sotomayor and Kagan. While Latinos and gays may rest easy because of Obama’s choices for the Supreme Court, Americans living in Phoenix will not. That is bad news for the majority of Americans whose families built this great country.

Yours in good times and bad,

John Myers
Myers’ Energy and Gold Report

John Myers

is editor of Myers’ Energy and Gold Report. The son of C.V. Myers, the original publisher of Oilweek Magazine, John has worked with two of the world’s largest investment publishers, Phillips and Agora. He was the original editor for Outstanding Investments and has more than 20 years experience as an investment writer. John is a graduate of the University of Calgary. He has worked for Prudential Securities in Spokane, Wash., as a registered investment advisor. His office location in Calgary, Alberta, is just minutes away from the headquarters of some of the biggest players in today’s energy markets. This gives him personal access to everyone from oil CEOs to roughnecks, where he learns secrets from oil insiders he passes on to his subscribers. Plus, during his years in Spokane he cultivated a network of relationships with mining insiders in Idaho, Oregon and Washington.

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  • Lena

    I find Mr. Myers’ article to be sexist. The President has chosen the best person for the Court and Ms. Kagan has proven to have a stellar mind while she was at Harvard. As far as standing up to the Army… good for her! It is about time that the Supreme Court not just filled up with a bunch of old WASP men who are out of touch with the new world that minority women are help building.

    • Right Wing

      I think if you lower your shield and take a look at the current members of the court you would note that one third (30%) is made up of “minority” members (Ginsberg, Thomas, and Sotomayor). I don’t think diversity is an issue there so maybe by sexist you mean you are a for gay rights? Personally, I am for heterosexual rights as God gave them. Heterosexuals did not need to stand in opposition to the natural order and demand equal rights…ever.

      • denniso

        John Meyers…news flash!!! Obama is picking Court appointees who reflect his and his party’s views on the diversity in our country…it’s just amazing! Next thing we’ll see is a Repub prez selecting Justices who think like he does…oh, wait, that’s happened, hasn’t it. Wasn’t it Bush who picked two very white elite males w/ very rightwing views? I wonder if Meyers has been around long enough to realize that ALL presidents pick Justices who reflect their political and philosophical positions?

        Do the rightwingers actually think that we are dumb enough to support
        Court picks who would fall in line w/ them? Why would we do that when
        the Repubs pick arch conservatives?

        As to the proportion of minority justices on the Court, w/ only 9 members, any more than 2 would represent a greater percentage than in society, except for whites, of course, since they are the majority.
        We have small percentages of several minorities in the country…asian,black,hispanic,gay and as far as the court goes,women. So you want to deny some of these minorities representation because that tips the percentage on the court away from white males? Do you realize that white males have dominated the court and most everything else in the country until very recent times?
        Sure you do…

        • JeffH

          bringing in the sheep!
          bringing in the sheep!

        • Doug

          You really live in a bubble don’t you dumbassso the most discriminated block in America today is the white man. No affirmative action for us no helping hands! And guess what that’s just fine, just make it a level playing field. You liberals make me sick you are nothing but a load on society.

          • Dave

            Doug you ignorant fool, White men discriminated against? What a laugh, I don’t know what planet you’re from but it sure as hell ain’t earth, White men still run almost everything in this country, and your angry white schtick is just that, a joke. [Offensive term removed] like you scream about others claiming to be victims but it seems to me you and your ilk love playing that roles, poor old white guys just have it so tough….you make me puke you gutless little punk

          • connie

            i agree with you, god forbid if white folks complaint or they are called racist.

          • http://personalliberty.com dave

            Well lets see. According to Janet Incompetano, the REAL terrorists are returning war vets(mostly white, uh, RACIAL PROFILING HERE?!), and muslims are to be ignored. The news media was SOOOOO upset that the REAL TERRORIST, a muslim, was NOT a middle aged white guy. Any and all white folks who disagree with Obama’s socialist/fascist, America-killing policies are just a bunch of racists, according to the lefties. How many white guys lost their jobs or promotions in favor of affirmative action? Obama is an example of affirmative action coupled with aid for foreign students(AND YOU WONDER WHY OBAMA’S SCHOOL RECORDS HAVE BEEN SEALED AND NOT AVAILABLE?!)and look what we got with him! “White man’s greed fuels a world in need!”. Now, you really stupid liberals, what do you think that statement of Obama’s means? Hint: he HATES whitey!!!!! Every appointment will be IN THE FACE OF MAIN STREAM WHITEY(CONSERVATIVES!!).

        • American Citizen

          What in blue blazes does a person’s sex have to do with who’s on the Supreme Court? Whoever is confirmed is supposed to decide issues according to the Constitution, not to his or her personal opinion. That’s the purpose of the Supreme Court, to make sure all laws passed will pass muster according to the Constitution. For Senators to oppose or support the person nominated should have nothing to do with their party affiliation. That’s why we need people of principle in Congress.

        • George E

          Denniso,

          True enough. However, I’d sure like to see the Supreme Court become the politically independent branch of government that our founders intended it to be. In that regard, I’d like to see them interpret our Constitution as it was written, not as they wish it had been written, to further some political agenda. Unfortunately, it’s blatantly obvious that the Supreme Court has become political, and I don’t think that serves our country well. If there’s one objective that we all should be able to agree on relative to the Supreme Court, I think, is that we need to work together to get it to become the kind of non-political branch of government it was originally planned to be.

          • tim

            George E…….believe it or not……I agree with you on this…….Unfortunately, the Court being non-partisan, will NEVER happen again………….Keep in minds, words can be interpreted in any way, so just looking at the Constitution, doesn’t mean it’s easy to interpret………Also, the Framers kept it vague for a reason…..as to be flexible as time passes………

          • Vicki

            Tim says:
            “Also, the Framers kept it vague for a reason…..as to be flexible as time passes”

            I don’t know Tim. It looks pretty specific to me.

            Congress shall make no law……

            The right of the people…..shall not be infringed.

            No Soldier shall, in time of peace be quartered in any house,……

            The right of the people ….. shall not be violated, …..

            … nor shall any person be subject for the same offense to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.

            …. the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the State….

            ….the right of trial by jury shall be preserved,…..

            Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted.

            The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.

            The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.

            That is just the first 10. I think 5 and 6 are a bit wordy but their intent is quite clear.

            So what part of “shall not” and “shall make no” are people having trouble with?

          • George E

            Tim,

            If one wants to change the Constitution, obviously, he has to find hidden meaning in the words that support the change he wants to make. That’s an agenda driving the interpretation, and that’s probably wrong for the country.

          • tim

            Fair enough, Vicki…….but what about the Amendments??…….and do you think the Framers could have IMAGINED what issues would arise 230 years later………..or were they pshychic………..

            I took many, many Constitutional Law courses, while in College, and I can tell you, it CAN be difficult, when a specific case comes to the court………..

            You also have to realize, that the Court rejects many, many more cases, than it accepts…………..

            Can you tell me that the Framers could have imagined the firepower with guns these days, and don’t you think the second amendment’s interpretations have been stretched to the nth degree???

            Could Mayor Guilliani , look at gun control, the same as the Mayor of billings, montana???……..NO…………..and he got in trouble with the NRA…….

            The framers also acknowledged, that there were going to be many amendments down the line……….and, when you think how long ago this document was written, this Country has been pretty conservative when it comes to that………….

          • Vicki

            tim says:

            “Fair enough, Vicki…….but what about the Amendments??…….and do you think the Framers could have IMAGINED what issues would arise 230 years later………..or were they psychic………..”

            Not only were they psychic but astute observers of human nature and really smart too.

            Tim: “I took many, many Constitutional Law courses, while in College, and I can tell you, it CAN be difficult, when a specific case comes to the court………..”

            I, alas only learned to read in American schools and have read the Constitution. More than can be said for many of our “representatives”

            Tim: “You also have to realize, that the Court rejects many, many more cases, than it accepts…………..”

            That is cause most of them are not controversial. :)

            Tim: “Can you tell me that the Framers could have imagined the firepower with guns these days, and don’t you think the second amendment’s interpretations have been stretched to the nth degree???”

            The 2nd amendment needs no interpretation. It simply says that a free people are armed with the tools necessary to protect their freedom from those who would enslave them. There is no gun more powerful today than could have been imagined by the founding fathers.

            “The idea of a gun that would keep up a continuous stream of fire attracted inventors early in the development of firearms. In 1718 James Puckle invented what he called his Defense Gun. Placed on a tripod it was a large revolver with a cylinder behind its single barrel. Although the cylinder had to be turned manually it could fire 63 shots in seven minutes. ”

            Tim: “Could Mayor Guilliani , look at gun control, the same as the Mayor of billings, montana???……..NO…………..and he got in trouble with the NRA…….”

            Of course they could. Gun Control is the ability to accurately hit a target with your gun. Everyone can get behind that. We don’t want any “collateral damage”

            Tim: “The framers also acknowledged, that there were going to be many amendments down the line……….and, when you think how long ago this document was written, this Country has been pretty conservative when it comes to that………….”

            The framers acknowledged that some changes might be necessary so they included a specific process. Since such changes were not to be made for frivolous reason the process requires much more than 50% of the vote (ratification by the states to be precise)

          • timr

            Vicki, youir stance on the 2nd Amendment is Laughable………..(I’m still laughing)……..You obviously live in a Town of about 100 people in some rural, backwoods location……………

          • Vicki

            Timr says”
            “Vicki, your stance on the 2nd Amendment is Laughable………..(I’m still laughing)……..”

            Cool I am glad you find the truth makes you laugh. Laughter is good for people. :)

            “You obviously live in a Town of about 100 people in some rural, backwoods location……………”

            Little town in Calif. Though San Jose has not had a population of 100 for many more years than I have been alive :)

          • Sidewinder

            Tim…
            Although Vicky is absolutely correct as far as the Constitution goes. It spells out the absolute right of the people to keep and bear arms. It makes no exceptions, and in fact restricts laws being passed to infringe on the right to keep and bear arms. In fact bear arms means to carry weapons. Infringement would mean to interfere with that right, so even licensing and registration is prohibited by the constitution.

            However I would question the wisdom in today’s world of exercising that right against our government in this modern era.

            And in that, myself and Vicky could not disagree more.

            She plays a dangerous game in her thinking.

        • Mary Sec

          I happen to think that White Males are actually pretty good peaople. Yes they have held most positions of power for a long time, but look what a great country this is. Not to say that there are not equally good people of all races and gender, but don’t destroy the good by completely dismantling the government. ASK your self, why is this country great? Get RID of the corrupt, and empower all people with better education, not more entitlements. White males get NO perferential treatment, yet they continue to work hard and achieve great things in spite of being discriminated against by the government. Even Obama is actually a white male, white mother, raised by white grandparents, white white white, now he has turned his back on the people who raised him and declared himself black on the census. He could have said multiracial. I don’t understand why is in denial. He is basically white. Don’t get me wrong, I think everyone should have equal rights. Someones race does NOT matter to me. However what DOES matter is the view that we need more socialism, more leftist communism, more forced government regualtions. I do not support all the bailouts and fraud by this administration. Hello General Motors, “paid” back the loan…big lie, they just used other govenmenty money. Big shell game. I hope and pray AMERICA as we know it will survive the next 2.5 years. Back to the “Supreme Court”, I hope no one else dies or retires anytime soon. We can’t afford it.

          • marc t dunn

            Mary i like what you say.after reading all of the remarks that i have read and has been printed,i also or i myself do not know what people are thinking.I find it very hard to stay here.However, i guess i just pick you because of the overall tone.my family came over in the Mayflower,how do i know?my father’s journals and family’s history.Let me explain,i have never consider myself as a racist that i an not,call me sick of it all,to many peoples opinions are at the front of it all{i heard that in Greece they are selling bargain basement prices an island it is tempting}I’ve no longer the voice that anyone will lesson or the energy to make them.There is an email that is circulating around by “Charlie Daniels”who you may or may not know,he speaks his mind and well done job at that,closing up the boarders,yes this country was settled in a chest match so long ago.Ca must recall your major and support Arizona’s law.
            support the dollar where it says,”IN GOD WE TRUST” in plain {ENGLISH} that means {NO HOMOSEXUALITY}okay not as plain as that but what do you not understand, is it the”MAN SHALL NOT LAY WITH ANOTHER MAN”or is it”WOMEN SHALL NOT SLEEP WITH ANOTHER WOMEN”i am not religious but i do carry a moral obligation to my kids and to the world,again I WILL REPEAT”IN GOD WE TRUST”
            ONE OF THESE DAY’S SOMEONE WILL AND I MEAN WILL CROSS OVER THE BORDER WITH CHEMICAL WARFARE KILL OUR CHILDREN POISON OUR WATER WAYS IF THEY HAVEN’T ALREALY CROSSED OVER AND ARE LIVING AMONG US,SEND THEM HOME WITH THERE KIDS WE DO NOT WANT TO BREAK UP ANY FAMILY’S AS YOU KNOW.OUR CHILDERN WILL WORK AT MACDONALD’S HECK IF I HAVE TOO I WILL ALSO WORK THERE TO KEEP MY KIDS EATING A ROOF OVER THERE HEADS SO ON AND SO ON.I AM NOT ONE TO GIVE UP ON ANYTHING WE NEED TO TAKE A LARGE STAND AS IN “UNITED WE STAND””RED,WHITE AND BLUE”ON THESE ISSUES,A LITTLE BIRD LANDED ON MY SHOLDERS AND TOLD ME THAT {A BREW IS STUING}THAT THE REAL TRUE RED,WHITE AND BLUE FLAG HOLDERS ARE GOING TO COME TOGATHER TO PROTECT WHAT IS RIGHTFULLY THEIRS,I HAVE THIS FEELING THAT IT WAS A POLITICIAN, BECAUSE IT POOPED ON MY SHOLDER BEFORE IT FLEW AWAY; I DO’NT KNOW.NOW SOME WILL MISTAKE ME AS BEING MAD,ANGRY IT IS JUST WHEN I HAVE TO USE A PUBLIC RESTROOM TO RELEAVE MYSELF AND SEE THE TOILET PAPER SITTING THERE ON THE FLOOR OR IN A WASTE PAPER BASSET WITH THEIR ASS MATTER WIPE ON IT,COME ON. WHERE DO THEY COME FROM?OKAY SOME OTHER MATTER,KNOW OBAMAS OUR PRESIDENT NOT BY CHOISE BUT IT IS WAS IT IS,”WHERE DO REGAN GO”GOD BLESS REGAN,HE IS NOT THINKING CLEARLY HE’S UNDOING ALL THAT HAS BEEN DONE AND TRYING TO TAKE CREDIT FOR IT WERE CREDIT IS NOT DO.RUNNING THIS COUNTRY INTO AFRICA I THINK OR AT THE LEAST MAKING IT A SOCIALISIST COUNTRY,THAT IS NOT EXCEPTABLE TO ME WE NEED TO TAKE OUR SUPREME COURT A PUT THEIR HEADS INTO THE TOILET.YES THEY HAVE BECOME POLITICAL ROADRUNNERS WITH NO MINDS OF THEIR OWN.WE HAVE TO TAKE BACK OUR COUNTRY,OH WHILE ON THAT SUBJECT THAT IS WHAT A FEW OF THE PROTESTER SAID LIKE IT THEIRS TO TAKE BACK OR MABE I MISSUNDERSTOOD THEM THEY WANTED TO TAKE THERE HOMELAND BACK,{MEXICO}GOOD FOR THEM DON’T FORGET YOUR KIDS.WAITING!

          • timr

            Harold, Justice Thoams hasn’t been black, since he left the Womb……….and YOU my friend, are the idiot………..

          • libertytrain

            timr – your comment about Justice Thomas is about as racist as it gets.

        • Coreyq

          Newsflash, the Caucasian race is the minority. Anyone who disagrees ignores cold hard fact. It just so happens we control most of the major economies in the world, so everyone seems to gang up and jump against us.

          • marc t dunn

            SCREW YOU

        • Right Wing

          One question denniso…if you are part of the “white” majority that has developed this country are you prepared to pass the torch to a minority? Answer no and you are a racist oppressor…answer yes and you are just an incompetent loser. So…which is it?

          Your statements are racist because you point the finger squarely at “white” skin. Please define white anyway…somebody. Italian, russian, czech, polish, english, irish, norwegian…tell me. Is white the target of your hatred…sure it is.

          • denniso

            Your first paragraph is a racist comment,and if you can’t see it then you’re hopeless…I won’t engage a racist or racist comment.

        • Madee11

          You coveniently forgot that Bush first picked and OUTSTANDING latino named Gonzales who was a powerful intellect—unlike Sotomayer who makes up in bullying what she lacks in intellect. Our country is poorer for it.

      • Harold Olsen

        Actually, you can’t count Justice Thomas as being a member of a minority group anymore. He’s a conservative Republican, therefore, that makes him a white male. According to the left, in particular Howard Dean in a speech shortly have he became DNC chairman, the right is made up SOLELY of white males. Therefore, any minority member or female who identifies themselves as a conservative Republicans automatically have their race and/or gender changed to white male. I guess that by doing that they can continue to say the right is sexist and racist. A prime example of how ignorant and stupid the left is.

      • JC

        I don’t believe Kagan can be counted on to objective in anything but a soicialist agenda of control. Her track record points out quite clearly that she is a threat to 2nd Amendment rights in particular and the Constitution in general.
        She’s one of the “globalist” crowd and should be discounted on that alone.

    • http://donthaveone Beberoni

      Doesnt bother me at all whether the person is a woman or a man, a black or a white or a hispanic. Doesnt matter whether they are blind or can see. Doesnt matter if they can walk or if they are crippled. What matters is, is if they have a conscience and have morals. For her to think, and then to take steps to support her agenda that it is allright for a perverted man to butt bump another man, which is a totally unnatural act, and is written in the Bible as being an ABOMINATION TO GOD, then I have a problem with that person, defending and pushing and supporting her immoral beliefs, then that is wrong.

      • tim

        Who’s Bible are you referring to?…….It’s the arrogance of the Religious Right, who pushes THEIR beliefs on the rest of the world………..”Equal protecyion Ynder the Law”………..or did you MISS that one……….?????????

        • David

          how stupid can you be, this country was blessed by God to be a shining ligt on a hill for the world to see, the Constitution was based on Gods word from the Bible,and the Constitution guarantees equal protection under the law,{for all} not for a select few and not for a so called minority, such as homos, illegal aliens,or those who happen to to fat or to skinny

          • denniso

            I’m curious where your good god was for the million and more years of human existence before Abraham,Moses and then Jesus showed up?

            Are you at all aware that most of the better parts of the bible are pre dated by other religions and philosophies?

            This country was not and is not ‘blessed by god’. We are one of many societies that have come and gone w/ our own good and bad aspects. We
            are fortunate to have one of the largest land masses full of natural resources, most of which we stole from the native people who lived here in a sustainable and much more peaceful way than we do. Given our
            natural ‘blessings’, we should be doing much better than we actually are.

          • denniso

            Beberoni…your need to detail sex acts is juvenile. Do you realize that there are such acts that occurr between men and women? Don’t you imagine that there are ‘staight’ sex acts that offend many ‘straight’ people? Leave people’s lives in the bedroom alone, or face scrutiny of your own and defend it in court when some more ‘conservative’ person wants to make tour private life illegal.

          • http://Yahoo.com Warren Latham

            I believe in protection for all under the law.(Constitution)
            However, in recent years, more freedom (?) for minorities,
            (excluding racial entities) has brought on more repression of the
            moral standards of a once “Christian society”, than at any other time
            in history!
            The belief that “anything goes” for moral behavior and moral
            conduct, is not the “proper attitude and stance” a civilized society should permit. This country has all but thrown moral conduct out the window.
            Men marrying men and women marrying women!
            What next, humans marrying animals?
            What is the end of this?

          • Rob Alexander

            OMG… for once I think I actually agree with Denniso… the wonders never cease!

          • SiliconDoc

            So Rob, you think the Indians never had wars on this continent, never drove entire herds of bufallo over cliffs, and were not even NOMADIC, as they used up one area of land and moved to another, leaving the depletion and destruction in their wake, and their wars ahead of them as they encountered other tribes ?
            Denisso said much more peaceful and sustainable, but is there anyone here whom thinks 300 million indians would be living in as much peace on this continent as 300 million Americans are now ?
            How about thinking beyond the standard liberal L I E S.
            The indians were SAVAGES. Many of their traditions would be true horror itself to the modern liberal, who through the use of courts has outright banned their practices, for law enforcement, for the prison system, for the “world to see”.
            Liberals tell lies over and over and expect all of us to just agree because their vague idiocies say so little, other than a sickly smear against the USA.
            I’d love to see the look on Denniso’s face as a nomadic indian half starved roaming across the plains and encountering the the next set of scalping savages in their warface paint.
            Better yet, since Denisso loves the falsehood of sustainability, he should live like the indians did, scraping his food from hunting wild animals and digging roots, and camping outdoors in a teepee as he sucks mud water from the stream.
            Since the Denisso libs think the indians are some superrace without wars and incapable of destroying the very land they grazed, maybe Denisso should volunteer for one of their human sacrifice rituals, and act of peace and sustainability as well, no doubt.

          • SiliconDoc

            Yes, Denisso’s peaceful and sustainable indians, history told by an andian : ” One Potawatomi took Wells’s scalp, while another cut out his heart, divided it into small pieces, and distributed them among the other warriors. Honoring their slain antagonist and hoping to imbibe a little of his courage, the warriors consumed the heart of William Wells.”

            Oh, after slaying the American, they scalped him, cut his hearts out, and passed it around as a courageous snack. That’s so lovely, I’m certain Denisso can picture the crying indian commercial of the 70′s and the tear coming from the face as a bag of trash floats downstream…
            How about we talk about indian cannibalism instead ?
            -
            Yeah, maybe Denniso would like to do some scalping and eating of another “fellow human being” ? It would be an honorable thing for a liberal playing indian to do, wouldn’t it.

          • Sheldon

            Silicon Doc… you’re misinformed, wrong and just plain ignorant. The vast majority of indigenous people, (the one’s you so ignorantly call “Indians”) were very nomadic. Yes, there were a few native cultures that built permanent settlements, but most were nomadic. Silicon Doc you claim “Indians” depleted and destroyed areas and then moved on leaving “destruction in their wake”? I call Bullsh!t. You can’t make things-up and pass them off as facts. It was against their culture to waste ANYTHING. Yes, they would stampede bison off cliffs (in Canada) but they certainly didn’t stampede entire herds over cliffs. All native cultures were very respectful of “the creator” and what you describe goes against their belief systems and for the most part it’s just impossible for them to do.
            The indigenous people of North America were savages? No worse than the Spanish Inquisition… the Crusades. No worse than the way the English disembowelled the Scottish hero William Wallace (see Braveheart).
            If you’re going to attack someone… get your facts straight or better yet try using some facts. The indigenous people of North America never abused the environment as you claim and they were no more savage than any other people on this planet.

          • Sidewinder

            Denniso, my take on you is that you are left wing.
            I do not agree with everything you say, but I am seeing more level headed arguements from people like you than I do when folks from the Religious Right try to explain politics in Bible Tinted glasses.

          • marc t dunn

            GOD CLEARLY STATES,”THUS SHALL NOT BE A MORON”HOMOSEXUALITY IS A DEGINERATE A PARACITE OF KIND.SIMPLE YOU DO NOT HAVE TO HAVE RELIGON ADDED TO THE FACTOR AT ALL.IN OTHER WORDS IT DOES NOT TAKE {JESUS}OR GOD OR WHATEVER TO KNOW THAT IF YOU STICK YOUR {STICK}INTO THE HOLE WHERE A PERSON DISCARDS A SMELLY BROWN SUBSTANCE INTO THE TOILET TO BE LATTER FLUSH OUT TO THE BOWELS OF THE OCEAN,”HUMM”SMELLY BROWN SUBSTANCE IS A COINCIDENCE WITH THE NEW ARIZONA LAW “I DON’T THINK SO”ANYWAYS WHAT YOU DO IN YOUR BEDROOM NONE OF MY BUSSINESS BUT I WILL AND ALWAYE UPHOLD PROP 8,NO HOMOSEXUALS CAN NOT I WILL REPEAT “WILL EVER GET MARRIED”ALL OTHERS THAT IS {YES}VOTE YES ON PROP 8.

          • denniso

            Sidewinder…No one has to agree w/ me all the time,that would be boring. I like the challenge of good debate and it helps keep my mind alive…I don’t care for some here who only make personal attacks,rather than attacks on the argument itself.

            It’s true that many rightwingers bring their religion to political debates and are often blinded, in my opinion, by those religious views. Some also confuse their passionate and literal belief in the bible w/ their views of the constitution…as though we can look at the constitution as rigidly as they do the bible. Justice Scalia,smart though he is, does precisely that…mixes the bible up w/ the constitution…very wrongheaded thing to do.

          • Sidewinder

            Very well said denniso
            I recognize intelligence when I see it.

            Yes politics aside and religion aside, its intelligence that matters.

            Mixing things only results in a watered down version…

          • denniso

            Sidewinder…I am a liberal and proud of it. Raised Repub Catholic but
            moved out of that by age 22. Liberal to me means open minded,tolerant
            of different people,a love of education and learning, and thought before precipitous action. I try to apply logic and rational thought to problems and attempt to have compassion for people in worse condition than me. I’ve been self employed for 40 yrs and created all my own businesses and work opportunities. I’ve never taken any gov’t help for anything and never had a single gov’t contract.

            You seem civil and good on most issues…

        • Robin from Arcadia, IN

          tim…. There is only one Bible. Our nation was founded on Godly principles. You can yell about the religious right all you want, but I am proud to be a part of the ‘religious right’.

          The current administration is not making wise choices. I hope the Republicans do filibuster the election of Kagan. She is just one of the guys from Chicago!

          • tim

            Robin, I simply don’t want my Government or anyone else dictate to me, what “religion” to follow and adhere to……that IS arrogance………..I believe there is only one God as you do…..but it’s the 150 interpretations of the bible, that gets us into Wars and trouble all over the World………….Believe in what you want to believe…….that is yours and my right………but don’t shove it down my throat……..That is all I’m saying…………

          • tim

            Would you rather have a Judge from a small Town of 100 people, who usually, have NO idea what the real world looks like…….???

          • denniso

            Robin can be proud of anything he wants to be. That doesn’t mean he can foist his religion on the rest of us…no, luckily the constitution makes it so obviously clear that religion be kept separate from gov’t…go to church,sunday school,send your kids to privately paid religious school, sacrifice animals, do voodoo, astrology…whatever you want, but keep it out of gov’t and gov’t funded agencies.

          • kate8

            tim – “believe what you want, but don’t shove it down my throat”. You mean, the way the left is ramming their utterly offensive agenda down OUR throats? Their “my way or no way” attitude foisted upon us and our children? The way the liberal idiology is shredding the Constitution and silencing anyone who takes an opposing view?

            The hypocrasy of the left is staggering.

          • tim

            Kate8…..do you remember the Patriot Act???………be careful when you talk about shredding the Constitution, because Bush & Cheney, down right ignored it…………

          • Vicki

            Tim. I notice the Obama administration and the heavlly democrat congress is in a real hurry to eliminate the “evil” Patriot Act.

            They are in such a hurry that they have not even brought it up.

            Not impressed by their demonstrated desire to protect the document they swore allegiance too.

          • Save America Susie

            I notice that ALL of the Presidents from George Washington to George W. Bush have ALL prayed in public at Government functions. They NEVER thought it was establishing a religion OR against the 1st Amendment.(Since they believed that there is only one God).

            There are Bible verses all over the monuments and Government buildings. Even carvings of Moses with the Ten Commandments and other religions figures such as the Arab Hammerabi on the cornice of the Justice Building above the doors.

            It was clear that the previous generations of America were NOT as paranoid as “the Left” is today in the 2000′s. They were fine with it. They just didn’t want us to NAME a specific religion as our official religion. They wanted us to freely express our beliefs. Not suppress them. (For suppression is where you lose your freedoms.) To mention God or Pray in a government meeting is NOT establishing a religion. Atheists can just talk to themselves, since they don’t believe in a “higher power” than themselves.

            But I don’t think BO has prayed in the Government meetings. Have you noticed? Did you know there has been a paid minister that opened the Congressional sessions each time? This practice began in 1776 and before, and CONTINUED UNBROKEN until now, with various ministers praying. I noticed that BO is the FIRST PRESIDENT to stop the long tradition of the “National Prayer Day”. Could it be that he has also booted out the ministerial prayer in the Congressional sessions?

            Does anyone know?

          • tim

            Vicki, with all due respect, one CANNOT be a strict constructionist with regards to the Constitution, and at the same time, support the Patriot Act………I think even Robert Bork, said it was an abomonation to the Constitution………….

          • Vicki

            Tim says:
            “Vicki, with all due respect, one CANNOT be a strict constructionist with regards to the Constitution, and at the same time, support the Patriot Act………I think even Robert Bork, said it was an abomination to the Constitution………….”

            I am not sure what you are trying to say there. As written you seem to be saying that someone who is a strict constructionist was supporting the Patriot Act. I am not sure who that is cause I didn’t see the post.

          • Sidewinder

            “shredding the Constitution”

            Ripping off my term, but rejecting the substance?

            You are listening, but not comprehending.

          • Sidewinder

            Well Tim I don’t agree with your hypersensitivy about racal issues…..BUT, I think for the most part you get it.

            tim says:
            May 19, 2010 at 11:03 am
            Kate8…..do you remember the Patriot Act???………be careful when you talk about shredding the Constitution, because Bush & Cheney, down right ignored it…………

            And Vicki….No, Obama will only expand on the Patroit Act. I keep saying….the 2 parties function as one.

          • tim

            Marc dunn, you are one sick individual………

          • Sidewinder

            Kate…you are a lost cause….

            You cannot dictate morality from government. Its that simple.

            An abusive drunk, shut off from alcohol by a new prohibition is no more moral than he was before. Only difference is he is now shut off from booze.

            Kate…and I am just stunned I have to drag this to the kindergarten level to explain it to you…

            Morality only comes from choice.

            Given 2 choices, good and bad, you are only moral if you exercise your own free will and choose good.

            If its forced on you….its not real.

            Are you really that dull….?

            Thats out whole purpose here on Earth.

            Choices.

            Its a test.

            We are given options, and the choices we make determine our destiny.

            Human differ from Angels….because Humans have Free Will. Evil is actually an option for humans…its not for angels.

            What we decide is of utmost importance.

            How many years in Church? You still don’t get it? What were they teaching you?

            Why do I have to explain this to supposedly morally superior beings?????

            IQ????

          • Sidewinder

            Robert Bork, despite being a Republican…was a brilliant man.

            Contradictions are just that.

            Patriot was an abomination to the Constitution.
            And Patriot is still serving in government as LAW.

            You cannot shred and at the same time support. At that point you enter the domain of lying…

            Thanks Tim…Good Point.

            tim says:
            May 19, 2010 at 2:16 pm

            Vicki, with all due respect, one CANNOT be a strict constructionist with regards to the Constitution, and at the same time, support the Patriot Act………I think even Robert Bork, said it was an abomonation to the Constitution………….

          • tim

            Sidewinder…….I’ve always said that the Right wants to control and dictate your personal life and morality……while the left tends to control the economics…….

            Michael Eric Dyson said on the Bill Maher show tonight, when they were discussing Libertarianism, that those people are always proclaiming personal Liberty, but they are not and were not there, to champion for people who didn’t have all of the freedoms………..

            I’d be curious to get your read on that……….

        • AZ Rifleman

          Truth will always be truth, right will always be right and wrong will always be wrong, and no matter the opinion, view, or spin, this will not change.

      • Larry J.

        Here once again goes the right wing agenda pushing conservative Christains. It is amazing how far from thought and ideas of Jesus thet Beberoni is. Jesus taught us to love and to be compassion. I see neither in the insulting commentary of Berberoni. Hum, something is wrong here. Beberoni has call our president a “dumb ass”. He also states “God Bless” and claims to be God’s child. Isn’t President Obama also God’s child too? If so you just called one of God’s children a “dumb ass”. I see you seem to think that Supreme Court nominee Kagan is a “dum communist nazi woman”. It is so nice to see how balanced and fair minded your commentary is.

        • kate8

          Of course, Larry, your side would never DREAM of saying bad things toward the right. LOL.

          • Sidewinder

            The right? Don’t include me…I am more right than you or your republican hacks.

            Here it is again Kate…

            Libertarians are frequently characterized as “conservative on economic issues and liberal on personal issues.” It implies that libertarians are being inconsistent, whereas in fact libertarianism is more consistent than either conservatism or liberalism. I prefer to say, “Conservatives are frequently libertarian on economic issues, and liberals are frequently libertarian on personal issues.” (I would also say that conservatives are usually authoritarian on personal issues, and liberals are usually authoritarian on economic issues.)

            Source:http://www.csun.edu/~dgw61315/libFAQ.html

            Is it sinking in yet Kate? Still confused?

            Why not print that definition and compare it to my posts if you can muster the comprehension skills… I have been nothing but consistent.

            And why at this point are you still chasing your tail and playing Democrat VS Republican games?
            Its childish nonsense that will never yield a solution to whats pissing you off.

            Yes Kate your worst fears are true…Obama is going to put you in a FEMA Concentration Camp because you are not a Muslim….

            This type of total resistance to accept other possibilities is just like brainwashing. Its fascinating, and yet creepy…
            Steel Trap Mentality…

          • kate8

            SW, I have no desire to listen to anymore of your insults and ridicule. You have taken everything I’ve said out of context and, on top of that, you have also outright lied. Your high and mighty attitude is offensive and demeaning.

            Our conversations have ended.

            Bye bye.

          • Sidewinder

            well, well well…

            My insults??? LOL You accused me of posting as American Liberal.

            And you accused me of being a government plant.

            It is ridiculous. Thats why it draws ridicule.

            I am ..highly amused by you…

            The paranoia…the jumping to conclusions…the false accusations…Who you serving Kate8? …Think about it…

            You are a self defeating person in my opinion.

            kate8 says:
            May 19, 2010 at 7:21 pm

            SW, I have no desire to listen to anymore of your insults and ridicule.

        • American Citizen

          Jesus did not condone sin or hypocrites. He called them “vipers”.

          • Sidewinder

            Would he call me a viper in your opinion?

        • tim

          Sidewinder, Kate8 can dish it out, but she can’t take it…………She can only last in her blogging, with people who agree with her………..I mean, I offered an apology to her, and she never responded…….

      • Pat R

        When Obama is impeached; will these judges he has nominated be recalled?
        Would be nice if so!

        • JC

          Roman law dictated that when a ruler was deposed as a tyrant, all laws and appointments under that regime were null and void.
          I wonder if we have any such laws?

          • Chaos Factor

            Jc…. No America doesn’t practice Roman law ….. And we don’t throw rightwing Christians to the Lions…. But it’s a happy thought….

          • JC

            CF, do you think that somehow you’re being clever?
            How about instead of right wing christians to the lions we put treasonous socialists on the gallows?
            There’s nothing funny about you morons, you’re outnumbered and outgunned. So, please…keep waving your communist little “hope” buttons. Being of such strong convictions I’m sure you’re willing to stand and be identified when your glass house shatters. And it will.

          • kate8

            JC – I agree with you. And these libs are the ones who are always crying “hate speech!”

            The more they go on in these blogs, the more apparent it is that they are not only insane, but dangerous.

          • Sidewinder

            yes Kate8….
            These Liberals….they should have their right to free speech stripped away…before they do any more damage…

          • Sidewinder

            Well JC…You’re not Jesus…are you….just checking…

            Perhaps Chaos Factor mispoke…it can happen

            Perhaps he meant Right Wing Idiots Instead.

            I determine an idiot to be someone who has been given the answers to a test, but can not understand what he has been given.

        • timr

          Hey Pat R……..if “W” didn’t get impeached………Obama certain;y won’t………or were you in a COMA for 8 years………….

          • American Liberal

            Jc…. That could be a fatal mistake on your part….. We are neither out numbered or out gunned….we just don’t stand up on the tree stumps and pound our chest like you do…. I also suspect that after all the chest pounding you just end up throwing poop at people like chimps do….

          • Sidewinder

            LOL!!

            I like you American Liberal…
            Not because of your politics….That has no bearing for me in terms of friendship…..
            Although it does for the Religious Rightys.

            If they don’t agree with you…or misunderstand…out of suffering from low IQ…then they are the first ones to hate.

            Amusing….

            But I like your creative mind.
            The slam factor.

            Political belief is never a reason to like or hate someone.

            Relationships are built on mutual respect. Di spite disagreement.

            Those who get hung up at this point, need time to grow, as they display immaturity.

            The Founding fathers were a diverse group of people with wide ranging political views. They put their views aside and found common ground, and built a nation.

            The people here….They could never do that.

            I speak the truth…

    • Don Tremaine

      The problem is that these leftist judges that Obama picks will not uphold the constitution. They will rule based on their heart. The supreme court as well as congress and the executive branches are not supposed to make decisions that subvert the constitution. Although it doesn’t seem to stop the marxists/socialists from destroying the American way of life.

      • denniso

        The constitution is open to interpretation…if it weren’t, how do the ‘conservatives’ support the recent ruling that corporations are due the same rights as real people? Does the constitution speak to that ruling at all? No…

        • Doug

          Dumbasso who do you think corporation are? The are shareholders and if they don’t like the way the corporation is working then they can take out the CEO! Why is it all right for unions to black mail their members to give money so they can use it for political gain. Pull your head out of your liberal ass!

          • Sheldon

            Right Doug. The average corporation has hundreds of millions of shares, most held by retirement funds and other corporations. These corporations also provide stock-options the board members, which allows them buy many board lots of shares at discounted (or very-discounted) prices. These stock options, when exercised do nothing but water down the stock’s value and the average stock-holder’s voting power. You really think a group of “average” people can vote out a CEO? Really Doug, I think you might have your head up some liberal’s ass.

        • American Citizen

          The Constitution is very specific in what government can and cannot do and the rest is supposed to be left to the states.

          • Vicki

            The states (unless the power is forbidden by the Constitution (See amedments 2,3,4,5 for some of the powers denied to the states.)

            Or to the people.

            “The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.”

            Note that Amendment 1 specifies that CONGRESS shall make no law. So the First is only for the Federal Government. Now many states added the same rule in their constitutions so it is pretty much applied to all the people.

        • George E

          Denniso,

          Corporations are “real” people, aren’t they? That’s all the Supreme Court decided. Therefore, their free speech can’t be limited (discriminated against) because they are corporations. In the end, your real concern isn’t that, is it? Aren’t you really concerned that corporations might contribute more money to the Republican Party than to the Democratic Party? If that’s true, then that’s a different issue (which I still think is largely misguided).

          • denniso

            The ruling says that the corporation itself has the rights of people, not the people who work for the corporation…that’s already the case. The people in a corporation of course have rights, just as all of us do,whether we work or not. No, the ruling gives constitutional rights to the corporation created on paper as a seperate entity. That’s what’s scary about it, they’ve created entirely new citizens out of corporations w/ the right to spend as much money in campaigns
            as they want…it means that we’ve opened our electoral system up to even more money. I presume the ruling means that the corporate board and officers can decide to donate corporate money to candidates of their choice, not the choice of the rank and file workers, but the CEO and other company heads.

            We need less money in politics, not more, and we should be shocked that the conservative court wants to create humans w/ constitutional rights out of corporate paperwork.

          • George E

            Denniso,

            Then are corporations treated differently than other organizations, like unions, for example?

          • denniso

            There is a difference, but I would agree to ban all money from both. We need public financing of all national elections and a ban on all outside money…then our individual votes would be more effective.
            At the very least, we should only allow campaign money from individual
            citizens w/ a cap on donations.

            The difference between corporations and unions…the ruling says that corporations themselves, not the workers in a corporation, are the same as people w/ the same rights. A union is made up of people bound together to push for their rights as workers…the ruling doesn’t say that a union itself is a person entitled to constitutional rights…the people who make up the union already have those rights, and they pay dues to keep the union together and allow it to do certain things on their behalf.

            The workers in a corporation don’t get representation from the company, they only work for and are paid by the company. The corporation donating money to a political campaign does not ask the workers who they want to support,or hold a vote of the workers on who to support…no,the ceo and board make that decision on their own.
            It’s maybe a subtle difference, but it is fundamentally different none the less.

          • denniso

            And, there is the difference that corporations are not organizations of people who are citizens…corporations are legal entities created
            on paper. They don’t require any more than a single person to set them up. They are distinct from the people…Unions and other organizations are just that, organizations of people. There is no union w/o workers who join and pay into it. They actually do exist. Corporations don’t need workers to exist and are seperate from the workers if there are any.

        • hirider

          Corporations have rights, just as unions have rights. If you would ban corporations from politicking, then you must ban unions from politicking. Then, where would all of the leftist liberal politicians get their donations from?

      • BigBadJohn

        The problem with all of the conservative judges that Bush appointed are that they legislating from the bench. Hopefully Obama can bring the court back to the center.

        There are laws against companies getting rid of older workers so they can replace them with cheaper younger workers – also known as Age Discrimination. Bush’s conservative judges have all but completely eliminated age discrimination suits against employers.

        • http://kibitzer-truthseeker.blogspot.com Stan

          That’s because the Constitution doesn’t give the federal government the power to make such laws. The US system is a federal system – still. The federal govt has only limited and delegated powers – “few and defined,” in the words of the Father of the Constitution, James Madison. And that’s the issue that we need to face directly in our day and age.

          If ‘conservatives’ have made judicial mistakes over the years, at least their hearts were in the right place: in the law, as she is wrote. For all their good intentions, I have such a hard time with liberals, who seem ‘constitutionally’ to want to make up law on the hoof. Apparently they feel oppressed by the law, in general, and so want it to serve their ends however the means they apply to make that so. They want to duck and weave and jab and feint and twist and turn, until ‘the law’ comes out meaning what they want it to mean. And that way is the end of the rule of law.

          I don’t think the liberals have thought that one through to its logical, horrendous, arbitrary-law conclusion, in tyranny. Maybe they think that living under ‘the law’ is to live under tyranny already. But living under ‘the law’ at least allows the people to change the law legally; not arbitrarily, which replaces it with socio-politico-philosophical whim. No thanks for living under such a decision-making apparatus. That way spells the difference between a Republic and an Empire; between a federal system and a centralized one; between a government of The People and a government of a demagogue, or oligarchy; in whatever form: despotism.

          I know which way I prefer. And it ain’t the way of arbitrary law.

          Kagan, apparently, supports ‘the unitary executive’ – a powerful executive. As someone in this thread has said: Beware of what you wish for. That sword can cut both ways.

    • http://remodelraleigh.com Doug

      you must realize that it was the WASP old men who established this country, built this country and kept this country through difficult times. Today everyone wants the free handout the gov’t seems obliged to want to give out to minorities, gays and illegals. Why?? To Keep your vote. It is a policy that cannot sustain itself.

      • denniso

        Gays and ninorities get ‘free handouts’ from the gov’t? What country and universe do you live in? And, your right, the WASP old men got us slavery and into a civil war and WW 1 and WW2 and tried to keep blacks oppressed, and now the largest collapse since the great depression. It’s also mostly WASP old men who reap the vast majority of gov’t handouts in the form of subsidies and big gov’t contracts.

        • JC

          I’m Impressed. You’re knowledge of factual history could probably fill a whole match book. Quite an improvement.

        • timr

          Right again Dennisso

        • hirider

          Silence in the face of evil is itself evil. God will not hold us guiltless. Not to speak is to speak. Not to act is to act. Voting for the lesser of two evils is voting for evil.

    • skipfoss

      Your president doesn’t care if he appoints a woman or a man as long as they are in goose step with his muslim communist agenda.And people like you make me want to puke but I would just end up with another pile of liberal,what are you fools going to do if all of these freaks vote to stop recruiting are you going to cry and beg the muslims not to kill or will you join them to save your worthless ass. Ifought for three tours
      and nearly lost total use of my legs against the commies only to have one elected and 40 more appointed as czars and to have the supreme court stacked with haters of the constitution and America and our way of life. We need to put these suckers out ,out of office and out of the country they are trying to destroy by what ever means neccessary and I do mean ANY MEANS. Our forefathers fought with muskets to stop the same tyrany we see now so if by arms or votes these bastards need to go before it it is to late and Ovomit gets the chance to call marshal law or he lets the UN come in and take over as per the Exuctive order he signed giving them that right. with EO12425 check it out on the White House site

      • kate8

        skipfoss, it’s a disgrace and an outrage that men like you fought and paid a high price defending a country that belies and betrays the values you fought to uphold.

        Looks like it’s time to do it again – at home.

        • denniso

          Skip…I hate to inform you of this, but our ‘founders’ used people like you to fight for control of the county, which they wanted for themselves. They were mostly smart and good men w/ some good ideas, but the revolution was largely a battle between elites, w/ the rabble used as pawns. The infamous Boston Tea Party was a charade and actually a fight for the tea market between foreign and domestic tea sellers. ‘No taxation w/o representation’? Taxes were so low back then as to be almost nonexistent and irrelevant to the common person.

          If you care to see an example of what kind of country our ‘founders’ set up, look at Shays Rebellion, which occurred right after the revolutionary war. Farmers were taxed in Gold, which they didn’t have, to pay for the war…when they couldn’t pay in gold, their farms were confiscted y the gov’t. A great beginning to our young country that belies the myth that all you rightwingers perpetuate continually.

          • TIghtjaws

            Denniso, if you insist on being this blogs historian, why don’t you give us some evidence, like with references to footnotes from professional historians.

          • denniso

            Ever heard of Google? I spend too much time already on this site and I imagine if anyone is curious they can easily research things w/o my help. Shay’s rebellion is commonly known history though not taught much because it flies in the face of our great founding myth that we were fighting for more individual freedom and rights. Most people here don’t care anyway as all they want to do is trash Obama and liberals…I waste enough time as it is.

      • tim

        Muslim/Communist Agenda………??…….Hey SkipFoss, explain that one…………

      • JeffH

        Read about it…

        INTERPOL and EO 13524 amending EO12425
        http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/18473

    • Delores Smith

      LENA,
      This article by Mr. Myers is outstanding. Lena, you may not find anything wrong with actions against our military, but since I have three members of my family buried at Arlington National Cemetery, I don’t like people like Kagan or people like you. That’s my right.
      I also dislike having someone put on the Supreme Court who has no bench experience and has never been a Judge in any court of law. Lena, you really don’t know what you’re talking out. Apologize to Mr. Myers.
      Delores Smith
      Delores109@cox.net

      • tim

        Delores, God Bless you, I have 5 relatives buried at Arlington National Cemetary, and I think they would agree, that we have been nothing but careless with our Miltary for Generations………….Read Andrew Bacivich’s, “The Limits of Power”……….By the way he’s a conservative Historian, and former Miltary commander…………

    • Cudabear

      Lena -

      I can see that this text book controversy in Texas is WAY TOO LATE. You obviously were one of those people that were brainwashed and taught “untruths” in the government run school system, OR some liberal college.

    • Michael

      Lena minority women and the rest.

      Ok you liberals. In realty sewer spills from your mouths. Feminism was introduced into society through the bloodline of Lucifer and Rothschild is your man, the Rothschilds of the Federal Reserve. This is what you want. What I don’t like about liberals is they are always in your face and want something from you, whether it be to think, except or act like them. Most importantly they insist on covet thy neighbor. http://www.arkdiscovery.com/sodom_&_gomorrah.htm
      You carry Lucifer’s money. Pull out a one dollar bill and match it up and read it all .http://vigilantcitizen.com/?p=1229

      • JeffH

        Sinister Sites – The EU Parliament
        Dec 8th, 2008 | By Vigilant | Category: Sinister Sites
        Ever since its completion on December 14 1999, the EU parliament has raised eyebrows and questions regarding its structure. The main tower, called the “Louise Weiss” building, looks peculiar and modernist.
        Nimrod and the Tower of Babel
        According to biblical accounts, Babel was city that united humanity, all speaking a single language and migrating from the East. It was the home city of Nimrod.
        Symbolism of the EU Parliament

        So the construction of the EU Parliament in the image of the Tower of Babel sends the message that Nimrod had the right philosophy and his Tower of Babel was a good idea. So we are looking for:

        1.A gradual introduction of tyranny
        2.The elimination of the worship of God to introduce dependence on power
        3.All people speaking the same language and the same religion
        4.Rejecting God while trying to become gods
        You know what? Those are major precepts of the esoteric beliefs of the world elite
        Those are major precepts of the esoteric beliefs of the world elite (see Educate Yourself section). They are not Christians or anything related. Their belief system is based on the Mystery Religions (pagan rituals, worship of the Sun, considering Lucifer as the one who gave light to the human race, seeing God as a force wanting to keep humans in the dark). Their New World Order will have evacuated all worship of God, introduced a single language and changed democracy to tyranny.

        http://vigilantcitizen.com/?p=142

      • JeffH

        Sinister Sites – Israel Supreme Court
        Jun 24th, 2009 | By Vigilant | Category: Sinister Sites
        The Israel Supreme Court is the creation of one elite family: the Rothschilds. In their negotiations with Israel, they’ve agreed to donate the building under three conditions: the Rothschilds were to choose the plot of land, they would use their own architect and no one would ever know the price of its construction. The reasons for those conditions are quite evident: the Supreme Court building is a Temple of Masonic Mystery Religion and is built by the elite, for the elite.
        Path to Illumination
        A journey through the Supreme Court is in fact a symbolic course towards Illumination. The ultimate “goal” of the journey is to reach the top of the pyramid which is located on the roof of Supreme Court, atop of an area where the “holy of holies” would be in a Jewish Temple.

        On each side of the pyramid’s apex is a hole representing the “All-Seeing Eye” of the masonic Great Architect (see the reverse of the Great Seal of the United States).
        http://vigilantcitizen.com/?p=1229

    • Vicki

      Lot of sexism and raceism in your post Lena? I would advise you to look closely in a mirror sometime. And as someone else commented already the current makeup of the court is rather bit of a mix of minorities.

      Now let us look at Ms Kagen’s qualifications to sit on the highest court of the land. What’s that you say? Doesn’t have any experience? Another learn on the job candidate? Hmmmmm… Hows that working out for you America. Obama didn’t have any experience either.

    • old white guy

      [Offensive post removed]

    • Nick

      Lena
      You Are Either a Atheist Or a Anti American Anti God Jew, Who as What Jesus Christ Said,” You are of Your Father the Devil And do the Work of Your Farher”,Who was a Lier And a Murderer”, Esspecialy If You Support Any Thing About This Kagan Vomit that Her Mother Expelled, She is No differant then the vonit Madlin Murry Ohare A Lier And Was Muderd By Like Minded People Lik Kagan, It is sad For America That People Like You And HER Did Not have Parrents that were Queer Minded Like You, and Maybe You Would Not Be Here to Poison The Rest of the Human Race.
      All The Freedom You Had Was From Come From God And His Son Jesus Christ That Affirmend Your God Given And is Now Being destroyed By You
      A Niggard is Not one of Color But One Who is Poluted,Corrupted,Vulgar,And Offensive,
      You Now Know What I Know about You and Elena Kagan

  • Anthony

    In practically every case of an Appointee to the Highest Court in the Land – “experience” has been the KEY. They have all had a history of “decisions” that a body politic can review and take confidence in. A confidence that “as required” they will not pervert those standards set forth in the Constitution – in other words – THEY WILL UPHOLD THE CONSTITUTION.

    The difference is – hearing Anthony Kennedy use Netherland Law to cite his personal vote on the Court for a decision when Netherland Law has “nothing” to do with the United States. We are NOT The Netherlands! This style of perverting the Court’s behaviors is exactly how Tyranny becomes a reality. You should be very careful what you ask for – and how about we not listen to some teleprompter -reading pundit on the puppet news and instead, actually go out and review real Supreme Court decisions before we flippantly voice how a person may or may not be the BEST selection “ever” for the High Court. I know, for some, that may be a bit TOO adult, TOO grown up a task to take on – STILL, it is the more righteous thing to do. And, avoiding righteousness – no matter the DNA make up – is still a higher calling.

    The fact that Kagan may be homosexual doesn’t bother me, as long as she doesn’t use it as a crutch, to diminsh non-gay liberties. There is “no history” from her that speaks to the fact that “she won’t” enact such behaviors. We have absolutely NOTHING to base our review of her … and comments from her that “banning books, or calling a halt to free speech (as long as you “call it something else”) is in her view a GOOD THING? Again, I say, be very very careful what you wish for. Adolph Hitler burned books, limited free speech, all in the supposed name of “something else”. This approach always has two edges to a very sharp sword and it can come back to cut all sides and not just one – no matter the bitterness of any specific group at that time in history.

    THE REAL BOTTOM LINE HERE – is reading how KAGAN thinks the Presidency should be more powerful as opposed to more subordinate – TO THE PEOPLE. Now, anyone can pervert the meaning of this last staement for their own personal profits, but what we ARE discussing here, is Hamiltonian-ism [in effect: Nationalism] over the true nature of our Constitution, which is “Jeffersonian-ism”…! Don’t believe me? Go look it up as opposed to “being all about what you’re NOT gonna do”.

    Hamilton (if you actually look it up) wanted the Leader of the Country to be “appointed for Life” – this is nothing more than a Monarchy, a Dictatorship for any People. Hamilton also felt it MORE appropriate that the (said) Leader should be who “appoints” Governors of the States and that no voting by the People should be involved. THIS IS POWER FROM THE TOP DOWN – wherein the People become “subjects” or in modern speak…. SLAVES to the Government which “rules” over them and is NEVER subordinate to the wishes of the People.

    Jeffersonian aspects of Freedom, are quite the opposite and for the last 100 years, since the creation of “THE FED” this has been the order of things. THE FED is not a legal entity if you actually read the Constitution. It is a Cartel. And, Cartel’s are always “criminal” – in this case, they never report to our Government for any oversight or review or audit – and that’s OUR money they are in control of…. again, you should be very careful what you take sides with. Jefferson knew a Central Bank was the worst thing any Country should ever wish upon itself – his many comments to that effect are not just flippant words in some speech. THEY ARE THE REAL TRUTH.

    Hamilton – as history does show – was an Agent, from England, who was FOR a Central Bank, as that’s who his Employer was, at the time of his coming over to America. Hamilton was an Agent for the Rothschild-controlled Central Bank System of Europe – and the ultra rich always think everything belongs to them, and any one person who does NOT have the same wealth (and the power it brings) is simply subordinate, a slave, to the wishes of the ultra-rich. Is this you, I speak of? Again, be careful what you side with – the ultra rich never share, ….ever! The Ultra-Rich never re-distribute THEIR money, they do that with YOUR money – which is a high tenant of the current POTUS. Remember? He has never re-distributed HIS OWN WEALTH… just yours.

    Hamiltonian-ism is all about centralizing power at the Cheif Executive branch and proposing KAGAN for the Court is (more than anything else) to assure he has support for the many Executive Orders that Obama has written for himself since Day One as POTUS. Have you read those E.O.’s? Have you? In this, no freedom loving citizen of this Country can claim ignorance – they can only out themselves as lazy and weak. From Bush 1, to Clinton, to Bush 2 and now Obama – the escalation of centralizing power at the Chief Executive branch has been more swift than at any other time in history… YOU BETTER WAKE UP.

    This is yet again, a scenario where people with NO real experience are suddenly being put in charge to affect personal opinion and not freedom based fealty on a Nation. Obama had NO experience at running any type of business – which is a true requirement for leading any Country. Now, the highest court is becoming slanted in the same manner. Professors from Colleges lead protected lives – they do not hobnob with the locals, they AVOID IT. Hence, the need to assure ourselves that any Judge who is elevated in this manner, had better have a large set of experiences in dealing with “the people” even if it is involved with overseeing the situations of crime upon one another…. KAGAN has none of this! Therefore, why would she really care about anything other than what her Appointer wants. YOU certainly won’t have a voice in any of that. It is the one thing YOU can count on.

    Be very careful what you stand for. Be very very careful!

    • http:leroiaudiobible.org Cecil

      Right on! It takes stealth/w a lot of little changes that seemingly don’t matter to get to this place. God help us! The snowball is beginning to roll.
      That’s right! I am a Christian, tried and True, and I believe that all people should work and support themselves. Entitlements should have no place in a free responsible society.
      Only the pinko(words removed) believe that a man is incapable of independent thought and/or action. While we were asleep they creeped in under the guise of change. This started in the fifties or maybe earlier with colleges hiring professors with a socialist bent. Now our great nation is teetering on the brink between Chinese dictator democracy and immoral nonexperienced minority control.
      This response may be incoherent ’cause I’m in the Joe six-pack crowd,but, don’t mistake my loyalty as a patriot.
      That’s all

      • tim

        Cecil, what do you mean by “minority” control…..???………Obama won a MAJORITY of the Votes, you fricken BIGOT……….Why don’t go have a 12 pack with Sarah Palin?…….maybe you can raise her kids………God knows, that SHE isn’t………..

        • Robin from Arcadia, IN

          tim… Wow! You seem a little on edge! My father was a WW2 veteran who fought to make sure we keep our rights and for you to go off when you feel the urge. Under our present administration and the lousy choices he is making to set on the Supreme Court, you best use your rights while you can. It will only be a matter of time before we no longer have them!

          • tim

            God Bless your Father…..My father was a Korean War Veteran……..my two cousins were Medics in Vietnam……….I have uncles who fought on WWII…………They didn’t fight for the Majority to STEP on the minority population……..they fought for Justice For All………….and the Freedom of speech and the Freedom of Religion (Not just Christianity)

          • denniso

            The rightwing just can’t seem to understand that it is always the majority in a society that controls most things and sometimes uses that control to abuse or discriminate against minorities…not the other way around. We are fortunate to have a constitution that recognizes that fact and was written to prevent it.
            The rightwing is just freaking out over the slow loss of their majority control and total power over the minority populations.

        • JeffH

          tim = timr…another board harpy has taken a place at the government trough!

          • Chaos Factor

            Jeffh… Have you ever had an origional thought?… Oh… That’s right, you aren’t capable of an origional thought…

          • JeffH

            Thank you…very original…your own I suppose?

          • tim

            JeffH writes like he’s watching Cabel news………….a little bit every 10 seconds………..

          • JeffH

            JeffH says:
            May 19, 2010 at 10:01 am
            tim = timr…another board harpy has taken a place at the government trough!

            You’re on the wrong playground son!

        • old white guy

          a majority of idiots. stupid people should not be allowed to vote or maybe even post. na that was cruel. post away.

    • Dave

      In the course of history there have been many Supreme Court Justices that were not previously judges in lower courts. Kagan clearly has experience studying constitutional law. Whether the writers of the Constitution were christian or not that does not make the bible the law of the land. Why would we even need a constitution if we were just going to follow the bible. You fundamentalists don’t understand the difference between religion and law. You mock other countries that are run under fundamentalist religious doctrine but then you see America as a Christian country just because it is a majority Christian. I guarantee that is not what our forefathers had in mind. Having someone site laws from another country is just showing that they are knowledgable about the history of law in general. Do you think justices should ignore anything that happens outside the US and act in a bubble? Why does it matter if Kagan is a woman, or if she’s single? Would you have said something if it was the third white guy in a row? You’re not even thinking rationally. Bush put 2 conservative justices in that were complete idealogues that followed his views. His views matched yours to a degree though so you didn’t care about that. The court needs the balance. One of your most conservative justices was involved in a sexual harassing an employee of his. If that happened with one of Obama’s candidates wouldn’t you all be screaming about it?

      • George E

        Judges in America are required to interpret “American” law and pass judgement relative to it, not other country’s laws.

        • Anthony

          Point on … My reference to Anthony Kennedy, inclusion of another Country’s Law – NOT OUR OWN – as a bottom line to his decision … was an imperialistic move and something Alexander hamilton would have most likely supported as it benefitted power from the top down, and not what the Constitution actually says.

          From all of these comments – one wonders how many have actually read our founding documents….

          • George E

            Anthony,

            Thanks again. I appreciate your historical perspective.

      • Voice of Reason

        “Having someone site laws from another country is just showing that they are knowledgable about the history of law in general. Do you think justices should ignore anything that happens outside the US and act in a bubble”

        I agree with some of what you said other than the above quote. There is no need to quote or use any laws from other countries….. We have our basic rights and foundation of law found in our own Constitution. The Supreme Courts job is to uphold it as strictly as possible, not to re-interpret it, change its meaning or to muddy the situation by citing irrelevant laws from other countries. How ridiculous.

        If you don’t like our laws and constitution as is, perhaps consider leaving the country. I’ll help you pack.

        • Alan Haskins

          I agree!

        • American Citizen

          Hear! Hear! Liberals don’t realize they’re forging their own chains.

        • Vicki

          The Supreme Court’s duty is to uphold OUR Constitution and verify the constitutionality of OUR laws. No reason at all to bring up precedent or law of current other countries.

          • JC

            Yes, uphold the Constitution. Not interpret the Constitution.

    • George E

      Anthony,

      I enjoyed your post. You’ve presented a slightly different argument than I’m used to seeing on this topic. So, I guess you don’t think Aaron Burr was such a bad guy after all?….ha.

      Seriously, has there ever been a time in our history when the federal government didn’t increase it’s power and control over the American people and state governments? I’m thinking this is a trend that began immediately with adoption of our constitution, but has accelerated recently to an alarming rate. It seems like the gravity of our very being has been pulling this country towards a dictatorial government from the very beginning. Every war, every recession, and other significant events in our history have always led politicians to push for more power and control by Washington (which is never relinquished back to the states or the people) to “solve” these problems. 200 years of this progression brings us within sight of a dictatorial socialist federal government. This is a nightmare that many Americans haven’t woken up to yet. The ones who do see it are often immigrants from dictatorial countries, and they are alarmed. That’s one reason why we need to constantly refer current day decisions against the “original” US Constitution, rather than just recent interpretations and decisions by other courts, which progressives do to justify their belief that the Constitution is a “living, breathing” document.

      • Anthony

        George E -
        Actually, the minute Thomas Jefferson became President, he reversed practically everything that was implemented before him, with John Adams, who was another Central Bank supporter. It’s quite an interesting read. At the moment, I’m googling up many comments in the book, so as to assure myself they are correct and not “flavored”, as many of the comments since last nite, right here on this topic.

        The difference, folks, is trying to identify which Politicians aren’t simply running for Office, just to get rich at OUR expense.

        The issue between Hamilton and Burr is apparently one of small issue and not an overriding National Debate (ie: Jefferson’s dislike for Hamilton;’s policies which were to erode and eliminate the real freedom many people had just died for).

        I admit, I used to think very highly of Alexander Hamilton, the Father of Wall Street, as he is titled on the History Channel Biography I watched last winter. Hamilton is buried right on Wall Street, which is no big deal to me. Although one wonders if he knew the real tactics being used NOW, would benefit him in any way, or would he just rescind his Citizenship and go backm to Europe for greener pastures…. I tend to think the latter, as he may have written in Jeffersonian prose, in The Federalist papers, but he had no intention at all in living up to them. It was Hoodwink City with this guy… so much so, it reminds me of Bill Clinton. At least with the Bushes, you knew what you were getting. With Clinton and Obama, it’s all double-talk and now they add “the chicago way” along with that.

        DAVE -
        In my book, your statement is false. Obviously, you didn’t really read the Article (above).
        Quote: (she has never been a judge and she has only practiced law for two years)
        The question becomes: Has she ever even presented a case before the Supreme Court? I highly doubt it, but like anyone else I can go look it up.

        I also think that many of you need to re-read my posting. Many of the inherent issues are being thrown to the gutter and in most cases it is for a sneer-fest and this wasted energy on the (false) Left/Right Paradigm, which actually doesn’t exist.

        When it comes to the Media? http://www.whoownsthenews.com (read for yourself, if you dare).

        Bob Livingston is spot on, with his warning of how quickly a sneer-post can make the writer look and sound extremely ignorant. One wonders whether the website should demand all post a real photo of yourselves. I have spent almost a year researching what I write here, or anywhere else on this topic, which is (in effect) a CIVICS LESSON. Government & Econ Class is what they called it in my high school days. And, like most high school kids, we usually “didn’t pay any attention”, but then the Teachers weren’t really allowed to present the subject with any real flair, either. Very droll.

        I suggest you read up on what you post “before” you click the button. There’s no rush.

        • George E

          Anthony,

          Thanks for your thoughtful and intelligent comments. I wish more on this board would follow your example.

    • American Citizen

      Obama calls her his friend. Says a lot about Obama as birds of a feather stick together.

      • Sheldon

        Sarah Palin called John McCain her friend… does the “birds of a feather” comment still apply?

        • American Citizen

          He was not appointing her to the Supreme Court which is a lifetime job until they choose to retire or die while on the Court. Huge difference. Some friendships are not “best friends” kind, only means they’re not enemies. Obama obviously knows Kagan as a “best friend” type.

    • kate8

      Magnificent, Antonio!

      Every day we are seeing that things are even more dire, more orchestrated, than we ever thought. The plan of the global elite is proceeding in a methodical manner, at an ever accelerating pace.

      Over time the Supreme Court has usurped ever more power to legislate from the bench, to even override Congress. They cite foreign law because they are installing global government, a step at a time. Obama is stacking the court to insure his agenda prevails over any and all challenges.

      Have we passed the tipping point? I pray not. Scripture tells us that, for a time, evil appears to be winning. I just wonder exactly how long a time that will be.

      God save America. And God bless you, Antonio. You are a better American than most people who were born here.

      • kate8

        Sorry, Anthony. I was mistaking you for Antonio.

        Still, beautiful piece of writing.

        • Anthony

          Thanks, Kate8. Nice of you to say!

    • Meteorlady

      I so agree – be careful because to interpret the law you have to be non-biased and rule only on the actual intent of the law, not what you “THINK’ it might mean to you or others like you. Unfortunately, the division between left and right is growing so fast that this court will never be the same again.

      We need fair and impartial justices and we should be able to vote for them instead of them being appointed by presidents who have their own agendas.

    • HeresAndieJ

      Anthony you wrote one of the more intelligent posts I have read here so far. You never demeaned anyone, no name calling and didn’t attack the messenger or the message.

      Kudos to you for writing such a truthful,unbaised well thought out factual piece.IMO
      Excellent.. Thank you

  • American Liberal

    We never really know what were gonna get till they actually sit on the bench…. Our presidents a very intelligent man… I trust his pick……about yesterdays primarys…. Democrat or republican… It doesn’t seem to matter… Americas angrys at the career politician… It’s probley a good thing…these guys and gals have been taking us and politics for granted for far to long….

    • American Liberal

      It’s laughable that any republican ( Ted Poe) has the nerve to accuse president Obama of not securing our borders when the republicans had 8 yrs to secure our borders and did nothing at all ( except bankrupt America) and they expect President Obama to have already secured our birders after 18 months… But that’s the ignorance of today’s republican party…

      • BILL

        I would not call passing the 800 mile fence — standing by doing nothing about the Border where have you been,??
        On Air-Force One awaiting further instructions ??

        • American Liberal

          Bill… Where have I been?.. In reality … The fence was never finished… The fence is laughable as to stopping illegals and why do you suppose they felt the need to pass a new law aginst Illegal immigration if something had been done during Bushs 8 years of disaster… You are at the very least delusional… The fence?.. What a joke…

          • tim

            The right wingnuts have “blocked” out the 8 years under Bush……But I must say, I really don’t blame them………..

          • George E

            Forget Bush! What’s the Obama/Democrat solution to this problem? So far all I’ve heard is 1) don’t enforce the law, and 2) give amnesty to the illegal immigrants already in the country. Well those sure as heck aren’t going to fix the problem. At least a fence or a post with a sign on it that says “US territory – no trespassing” is better than those “solutions,” even though none of them will stop the flow of illegal immigrants into this country. Stop with justifying Obama’s politicizing and lack of attention to this problem by continuing to blame Bush. Get on with finding real solutions!

          • tim

            George E……just tell me what Bush and 6 years of Republican/Legislative control DID on immigration?????????

          • George E

            Tim,

            They didn’t do nearly enough, but that doesn’t justify Obama not doing anything of value either. Does it?

          • Anthony

            TIM-
            This is the SECOND time I’ve seen someone post that GW Bush had six (6) years to get something done. My friend, YOU ARE WRONG. I doubt you will learn to investigate your assumptions, but YOU ARE WRONG.

            From 2001 to 2003 – Senate Control was under Tom Daschle (DEM)
            From 2007 to 2009 – Senate Control was under Harry Reid (DEM)

            In 2005, McCain submitted an Oversight Bill directed at FANNIE & FRDDIE and AIG. ALL DEMS voted against it – what happened? C’mon TIm, you know this one!
            Franklin Raines walked away with $120mil in bonuses while riding herd over FANNIE & FREDDIE … did he have to give any of it back, like the Auto-Industry and certain Banks had to do? Help us out here, Tim… Today, Franklin Raines lives in an $8mil Condo in DC, with mine and your tax money ferreted away for private profit, Timmy.

            Again – I identified the Politician’s Party. MY ISSUE is not with his Party… it’s his actual machinations, which are nothing short of Hamiltonian and nothing else.

            People wanna feed at the Hailtonian trough, you go ahead and sell your freedoms. It was the DEMS in 1981 that said we deserve a pay raise, since we’ve worked so hard at giving the people “gas rationing and 25% interest rates” under Jimmy Carter. The other party screamed, hey, wait a minute and the DEMS said, well you can give YOURS back… Again, this is all about the money – not Left or Right.

            Face this fact, whether you like it or not —
            If your Net Worth is not at least $10Billion and growing, then YOU ARE EVERYONE ELSE.

            That’s… the truth of it. You got no seat at the Have’s Dinner Table. You’re simply one of the Have-not’s!

          • timr

            Anthony, you must be one of the “have’s”……….because you and your friends on this blog don’t give a damn about the have-nots………You can’t muster enough compassion for people in need…………you don’t give a crap about a Family member dying because they are denied healthcare coverage……….you probably laughed your A$$ off when you saw those BLACK bodies floating down the street after Katrina………….All of you right wingers care more about the guns in your cabinet at home, and the corporate power than you do about your fellow man……….Your’e selfish pricks, and you don’t give a rat’s A$$ about anyone else……….Someone who is in need, you call it a handout………someone get’s denied coverage, and gets assistance from the State and you call it an entitlement……….I suppose the National Guard who was helping the Katrina victims, were giving them Welfare……………..Believe it or not, nutjobs, there are hard working middle class Americans who fall on hard times, and they sometimes need assistance……………So stop whining about your second amendment, and your fanatical religious views, and go out tomorrow, and help someone who is less fortunate than you………..THEN, maybe you can look in the mirror and feel good about yourself…………….God Willing…………

          • George E

            Timr,

            I think you are way off base with your assumptions.

          • tim

            Anthony, my friend,

            I consider to be amongst the “have’s”……..and I’ll tell you why……

            I have a beautiful wife, 2 boys in College, and I have a pretty important full time job…..I’ve coached Baseball up to the High School level….I studied the Korean Art of Tae Kwon Do, attaining a second degree Black Belt, and went on to teach the this art, but most importantly, to middle school age to high school age kids, who were involved in gang activity……and we got then OFF of it, and back into class at school, and off to College………And both of my Korean instructors were born in South Korea……..and they spoke English………..I’ve volunteered for many organizations including Habitat for Humanity……..

            Like anyone, I have challenges in my life, but, overall, I feel like I HAVE……alot…………

            tim.

      • http://www.complex-air.com Jerry

        I find it totally amazing how all the progressive liberals seem to push aside the fact THEY were in control of the house and senate and controlled the votes NOT the republicans.

        The sad part is, all of this democrat and republican bashing is what the progressive movement wants. While we are ragging at each other, the progressives are taking everything away from us. Open the eyes and read the real truth.

        Why is it that Kagan is not doing the interviews? Why does Hussein Obama’s crew have the lame stream media blocked off from doing interviews with her family and friends? Is this what we are after, the white house controlling who we can and can not speak to? The only way the president can have that kind of power in the USA is if it pertains to national security and I don’t think Kagan right now is a national security risk with the media questioning her or her family.
        People better open your eyes and look around! The progressive movement is REMOVING our history from the books.

        Frankly, everything about this current administration, house and senate, unions in the white house, the people that are writing the bills, Fanny and Freddie, Chris Dodd, Barney Frank, Pelosi, Reid, they ALL scare me and should scare you too! Open the eyes and look around! Listen. All one has to do now is watch their past speak for its self. Almost all of their past actions are in the internet, that is until something is out there this admistration does not like and then they make them remove it. Look at all the news stories that come out, you hear about it, then you go look for it and suddenly it isn’t there. interesting isn’t it?

        • David

          Well said Jerry ,hoorah for you , every one who cares about this country and their own freedom should take the blinders off and look around, or keep the blinders on and just listen

        • tim

          Jerry…….6 of the 8 years under Bush, the Republicans controlled the House & Senate…………..have you forgotten that??

          • Anthony

            Knock it off, Timmy. Go back to school, already!
            You’re posts are starting to sound like a fast food commercial.

          • Chaos Factor

            George: you mean you want to go back and follow the constitution like the founding father did in 1776….. But you don’t want to discuss the last presidents administration?…and how can you Neo conservatives compare President Obamas” to do list” at 18 months compared to not addressing immigration for 8 years like president Bush?…. You are aware president Obama came into office with lots of problems left by Bush… Or are you telling me it’s fair of you to expect President Obama to have already fixed everything ?

          • marc t dunn

            TIM YOU ARE AN IDIOT,LEARN YOUR,HECK GO TO SCHOOL.BUSH HAD TO DEAL WITH CHINA AND THE SHOT DOWN PLANE THAT WAS ONE. TWO HE HAD TO DEAL WITH THE TWIN TOWERS DOWNING OH BY THE WAY CLINTON SHOVED UNDER A RUG AND WAS NOT GOING TO DEAL WITH WHILE HE WAS IN OFFICE,THREE THEN HE HAD TO DEAL THE THE OVERWHELMING STUPIDITY OF ALL WHO MADE FUN OF HIM OKAY THAT GOES WITH THE JOB,HOMO’S WERE YELLING SCREW WAR WE WANT TO BE MARRIED BLUH BLUH BLUH.. HE HAD A FULL DECK THAT THE DEMOCRATES LEFT FOR HIM TO DEAL WITH AND A FULL DEMOCRATE CONGRESS WHO WOULD BLOCK HIM AT EVERY MOVE AND WHY,WHY DID TEY DO THAT BECAUSE SO THEY THE DEMOCRATS COULD SAY A ELECTION YEAR THAT THE REPUBLICIANS DIDN’T DO ANY THING WHILE THEY WERE IN OFFICE. SO THEN WHO STOPPED HIM THE DEMOCRATS SO SCREW YOU.

        • American Citizen

          As for news stories disappearing, it happened under Clinton, too. He/she (two for the price of one) had their own Mafia.

        • timr

          ———–, you can(offensive words removed)……….9/11 happened under George W Bush’s watch…………too bad, they didn’t get YOUR house………….

          • http://personalliberty.com dave

            Learn some history you liberal anti- American pukester. As Bin Laden said after Clinton’s refusal to do anything after so many attempts and people killed, “America is weak and will not strike back”. At least Bush had the guts to strike back at a country which was FINANCING the murder of innocent Israeli’s ( of course you hate jews right?!), a country which IGNORED so many UN resolutions, a regime raping and killing by the thousands, mass graves with men, women and children, terrorist training camps, etc. You are a typical miserable weak kneed liberal always hiding behind the women and children. Bush made the right call, we just stayed there too long. How many Iraqi’s huddled fearfully in their homes at night and PRAYED TO GOD something would happen to free them from Hussein? Kind of the same thing going on here now with another Hussein…umm, umm, umm. History DOES REPEAT ITSELF!! Thanks to morons like you!

          • tim

            Dave,

            I’m not a pukester……I’m a Man……….and Iraq was a catastrophe from the beginning……and as far as Israel is concerned……..??…….NO Country has ignored or defied MORE UN Resolutions than Israel………I’ve said it once, I’ll say it again………Our so-called friends in the Middle East, like Saudi Arabia, and Israel, get more Americans killed because of their arrogance,and their total snubbing of International Law……….With friends like that, who needs enemies…………I’m sick and tired of fighting battles for them sending American soldiers into harms way, just so we can control the flow of Oil, and invade and occupy Countries, to protect them and not us……………I said in another post, that I voted for George H.W. Bush, because, at the time, I liked his foreign policy team….and he knew the limits of american Military power………While he was in office, he put a minor cut in aid to Israel, and the American Israeli Lobby ripped into him, and threatened to not support him in his re-election……..I still, to this day, follow Brent Skowcroft, who was Bush I’s National Security Advisor………

            No, I don’t hate Jews or Saudi arabs……I question the acts of their respective Governments………….and WHAT they really bring to the table, in helping the United States of America……….

            Hubris and arrogance, when it comes to Foreign Policy has NEVER….NEVER, served our Country well…..and both Democratic Presidents AND Republican Presidents have been guilty of this…………

            I KNOW, that H.W. Bush…OR Ronald Reagan, would NOT have invaded Iraq after 9/11…………..and if you know anything about those 2………you know they wouldn’t have……………

            If you want a good book on this subject, I recommend David Ignatius’ interviews with Zbigniew Brzeznski, and Skowcroft, who talk about all subjects of the Future on American Foreign Policy………..The Book is called…”America and The World, The future of American Foreign Policy”…….

            I guarantee you, these to are not…..pukesters………..

            God Bless you dave

      • marylu

        How about we deal with today and stop bringing up yesterday? President Bush had his chance and he did nothing, so now we put the same issues of the boarder in the hands of this new President and he does nothing. I am not sure which is worse. I would think that we should deal with what is at hand and leave yesterday to heal on its own. It seems to me we have a President that wants to take America to its knees, but that will not happen, not in America, the laughed at tea-baggers will make sure of that.

        • http:leroiaudiobible.org Cecil

          Marylu! What do you mean Bush did nothing? Why,ma’am, he attacked a country that was not a threat and he attacked a country guilty of insidious crimes against humanity and the USA and he let all the bad guys get away. They all crossed the border to a country, supposedly on our side, that harbored and protected the outlaw elite.
          He also befriended the greedy grub of money on Wallstreet and the Federal banking system while they went Enron. He is a millionaire today. He botched his cushy entitled military service,went bankrupt in several businesses and then of a sudden turned a minority stake in a Texas ball team to become a wealthy man just as he became President.
          As for our country,yes, he improved USA, not! As for himself, yes, he became a part of a very powerful elite that colluded with the pinko faggot commies to elect Obama to take the fall. But , Obama further bankrupted our great nation. He took the fall pushed us further toward socialism and the real bad guys got away.
          that’s all

          • http://www.complex-air.com Jerry

            What people need to understand is, it is not the democrats or republicans per se, it is the progressives in both parties.

            All they are trying to do is finish up what Wilson started in the early 1900′s and Roosevelt tried to finish but the people caught on and stopped him. The other ones are minor compared to those two and the Bush’s and Clinton and now Hussein Obama. It is NOT the party it is the PERSON. Bush 1 & 2 were both Progressives.

            One only needs to go out and read about a progressive to realize what is really going on and has gone on. We can rag about the past all we want but, the past is history and we need to learn from it not focus on it. While we are focusing on the past, as Hussein Obama wants us to do, Hussein Obama and his CZARS are destroying what we are and ever hope to be. Doubt me, go out and look at ALL of the CZARS that he has surrounding him. You will find all the Marxist, Socialists, Muslims, Communists. This is all from their past words spoken from their mouths and not an opinion on my part. Do your research. Van Jones was a big thorn in Hussein Obama’s rear so he quietly left on a Saturday night only to move into another part of their party but still working on Hussein Obama’s plan to turn us into a nation of Socialists. You want to live under Chavez, move there! You want to live under China, move there! Anita Dunn said, in her own words to a graduating class, on June 5. 2009, “A tip actually comes from two of my fovorite philosphers, Mao Tse Tung and Mother Teresa” now how many tens of millions of people did Mao Tse Tung MURDER? Hear it for yourself from her own lips at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HiBDpL2dExY (it is 33 seconds into her speach. THIS doesn’t bother you?

            Everyone tries to discredit Glenn Beck but they can’t do that because he doesn’t state things without having the proof from “their lips” to show his statement. The Lame Stream Media sure isn’t bringing any of this out. All they can do is tell lies about him to try and discredit him but, the truth “out of their lips” makes for a hard discredit.

            We need more Glenn Becks in the media. Our CBS, MSNBC, CNN, ABC have SOLD US OUT to the progressive movement and THAT is why the Tea Party people are standing up “without violence” to bring back our country to what the founding fathers did to make us so great and everybody wanted to come here and live in FREEDOM not in a social country. That is what they are leaving is a social country to come here for freedom.

            Now the Mexican’s are coming across the boarders by the thousands to take YOUR money and live. How many places do you go today where they have the Mexican language to display the products? Why should we, in the United States, have to “press one for English”. Why does BOA have an option on their menu for “press two if you would like to wire money to Mexico”? None of this bothers you? It doesn’t bother you that a person that has a known disability, that is a citizen, can not get Social Security but a Mexican can come over here and get all these benefits without any trouble? It doesn’t bother you to stand in line at a super market and be the only one in line speaking English and watching the people speaking the Mexican language in front of you paying with food stamps and vouchers? That is YOUR money, if you are paying taxes. It bothered me when Clinton was in office, it bothered me when Bush was in office and now it is absurd and REALLY bothers me and to top it all off, the cashier speaks broken English. None of this bothers you? Well, it bothers the Tea Party people and to quote the lady that was speaking to Specter and said, “you have awakened a sleeping giant” and that giant is the people you see at the Tea Party. If you care about your country, you would be there as well to stop all this government takeover.

            Someone above said that Obama is smart, not really or he would listen to the people that are speaking out instead of trying to make us all “terrorist”. How many private jobs has he created? He hasn’t except in his “green” crap that is very little but he has created thousands of government jobs. Look it up, it is all out there.

            Oh, you say well, a job is a job, not when WE are paying their salary. What happens when there are more government workers than private jobs? Where is the money going to come from to pay the government workers when there is no or very little private sector. Ah, then we MUST depend on the government for everything.

            What has happened to all the money that WE THE PEOPLE paid into Social Security? It was paid in but Congress spent it leaving IOU’S. A law of “option” turned into a law of “you must” pay social security FICA on your paycheck. Go back and look at the records. It started out as an “option” to pay in to and then Congress, (democrats and republicans), saw how much money was coming in and saw a basket of cherries they could use to spend on their favorite things. Now what is happening, the people that paid it in are retiring and guess what, Congress has spent ALL the money. Makes one just love our politicians doesn’t it?

            Why do you think there was such a controversy in Texas a few months ago about the “new school text books” that was being dumped on our kids? The progressives are removing OUR history of the USA in these books. What made America! Like we need 4 full pages about Oprah Winfrey, but nothing about Columbus or George Washington, Ben Franklin etc? We need this history to learn any mistakes and not make them twice or to see what they did right to correct a wrong of today.

            People can go on believing nothing is going on with this administration or they can look at the facts and the truth and research and NEVER take the lame stream media’s opinion of something but search for the real truth.

            All one has to do is research the REAL truth about the past and one will find that every time a progressive gets in office or controls the senate and house, we go to crap and have to fight our way back out of it.

      • Don Tremaine

        American Liberal,
        I don’t think it is so much that the feds are not doing anything to secure the borders. I think the issue is that they are condemning Arizona for passing a law similar to the federal law. This just gives the Arizona police the authority to act on the problems they’re facing.
        The fact that liberals are acting this way is simply stupid!

        • George E

          Don,

          Some Liberals are “crazy like a fox.” They continue branding Republicans as “racists.” After beating that drum for the past couple of decades, many Americans now accept this claim as fact. That makes it very difficult for Republican politicians, especially in liberal-leaning areas, to stand tough on laws affecting minorities (and women) without being called racists (or misogynists).

          • tim

            George, the Republicans do it to themselves……..They tried their hardest to push back civil Rights Legislation……..John McCain voted against the Martin Luther king holiday……..and on and on………

            I will say, the democrats who were against Civil rights legislation back then werew flat out Bigots as well……they were the former Dixie-crats…….who eventually, became Republican……….

          • George E

            Tim,

            No one is perfectly clean on this issue, especially if you look back far enough. However, if one looks at the record objectively, Republicans are no more racists as a group than Democrats. I’d argue that today many more liberal/Democratic Party leaders express racist views in public than conservative/Republican Party leaders. That’s probably because they get a bye every time they mis-speak, while Republicans pay a heavy political price. Nevertheless, that doesn’t stop many from making claims that conservatives/Republicans are racists, and eventually over time, the brand suffers. Republicans have generally done a lousy job of defending their brand and building it as a defender of rights for “all” people, so I can’t defend them for coming out on the short end of the debate. I can, however, take issue with those who throw out false claims for political gain, only. People should expect a higher level of honesty from their media (especially MSM), teachers in our public schools, political leaders, and other leaders in the public view. Wrapping every major issue in race, while painting one party as always wrong and one always right on the issue, is a disservice to our country.

          • http://www.complex-air.com Jerry

            George,

            it’s not Liberals or Conservatives…. it is progressives. look up their movement. It will scare you to death! The progressives are on both sides, Republicans and democrats alike. Wilson, Roosevelt, Carter, Bush 1, Clinton, Bush 2, Al Gore, Kennedy’s, McCain, etc, etc… have you noticed how McCain has changed horses since the Tea Party is kicking butt? suddenly he is now for everything he was against when he was running for office. I didn’t trust him then and I don’t trust him now.

            That is why we need to vote them ALL out of office and start putting people in political office with our beliefs and NOT the progressive beliefs. Do a search on the internet for “progressive” and see what their agenda is. That will answer a LOT of questions and statements that are made today. All they want us to do is argue about everything and ignore what they are really doing while we sit here and argue about the past, present and future. Look at all the CZARS sitting by Hussein Obama. (you noticed no one in the media could say his middle name during the campaign didn’t you? nor were they allowed to mention his previous name “Barry Soetoro” during the election)

            This whole political crap has been a fraud since before the 50′s. The Viet Nam protest was a big beginning to get it back in motion after Roosevelt got defeated out of office.

            Look at what is happening to Greece and Singapore, that’s going to be happening here before long with the SEIU and AFLCIO. Look closely at “who” is doing the protesting in those other country’s. Unions! George Soros. He was born on August 12, 1930 in Budapest, Hungary and look at what he is doing with the Unions now. Do a search on his name and read about the “global” company’s and “world united” he is involved in let alone the most visited person in the white house in the last+ year. Look at all his connections. SCARY!!! The whole thing is!

          • tim

            Well said George…..Your’e right, there is plenty of blame on this issue to go around…………There WAs a bit of a differnece though, between the McCain concession speech crowd, after the election, and the crowd in Grant Park in chicago, the night Obama won…………(as far as diversity in it’s makeup)

          • George E

            Tim,

            Republicans have done a lousy job of selling their philosophies to minorities, so obviously, you probably won’t see as many minorities represented in Republican gatherings as you do in Democratic Party meetings. Nevertheless, I’m awfully proud of our conservative minority representatives. I find them to be some of the most thoughtful, and often, committed in the group. They have to question why they believe in conservative ideals daily while others don’t because they aren’t challenged by their neighbors to conform like conservative minorities are.

          • libertytrain

            George – good post as always and I agree – perhaps they were able to break free enough to act on what was right and true for them.

      • Sidewinder

        Hey, they think I am you American Liberal…LOL!

        Some numbers:
        In 2007, discretionary spending on border security was $6.3 billion
        In 2008 7.9 billion
        In 2009 9.8 billion
        In 2010 10.1 billion

        The fact is, between 2007 and now, while spending on border fencing has gone down, overall spending on border security has increased.

        Source: Politfact.com
        http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2010/may/05/mike-pence/republican-says-obama-cut-budget-illegal-immigrati/

        • American Citizen

          What are they spending it on, food and drinks for the illegals as they come across? Why is there still a flood of them? We are being invaded and nothing worthwhile is being done about it.

          • Anthony

            What say you go knock on their door and demand to see their books!

          • marc t dunn

            OKAY,YES THEY ARE STILL CROSSING,BUT LOOK AT THE BIG BIG BIG VERY BIG PICTURE HERE THEY ARE PRODUSING HERE WHY DO YOU THINK AMERCIANS WANT TO SEAL UP THE BORDER AND SENT THE ONES WHO ARE HERE ILLEGALY BACK,JUST LOOK AT OUR ER ROOMS OUR SCHOOLS OUR SALAREY CUTS THE CLOSING OF THE SCHOOLS THE OVER POPULATION OF CLASS SIZE THE WAY OF LIFE AS WE KNEW IT OKAY THERE ARE ONES THAT ARE HERE WHO HAVE COME HERE LEGALLY AND THEY DO THE RIGHT THING,BUT THERE THE ONES WHO ARE HERE ILLEGALLY THERE KIDS WHO DEFACE PROPERTY HANG AROUND INSTEAD OF GOING TO SCHOOL GANG BANG TAUT OTHERS TO DO WRONG,HAVE NO RESPECT FOR ANYON E ELSE THINK THAT IT IS ADOUT TAKING OVER THE UNITED STATES WHO GAVE THEM THE OPPERTUNITY TO GO TO SCHOOL DO GOOD RAISE A FAMILY’S TEACH OTHERS ABOUT RESPONCIBILTIES AND BEING A GOOD CITICAN INSTEAD THEY TEACH THEM NOTHING BECAUSE THEY DO NOT SPEAK ENGLISH AND THEY JUST DO NOT CARE WHAT THERE KIDS ARE DOING OUT PASTED HOURS RUNNING AROUND RAISING HELL SHOOTING KILLING BREAKING ENTRY NOT GOING TO SCHOOL SKIPPING SCHOOL WHILE THERE MOMS AND DADS WORK AT JOBS THAT THE LEGAL AMERICAN WOULD WORK AT.WHY DO YOU THINK UNEMPLOYMENT IS SO HIGH BECAUSE THEY HAVE CONNERED THE WORKERS MARKET THATS ONLY ONE REASON,TWO NOW THAT THEY HAVE DONE THAT THEY CONTINUE TO HIRED ILLEGALS FOR CHEAP WAGES BREAKING DOWN THE AMERICAN EMPLOYMENT WAGE OR STANDARD AND GETTING FREE MEDICAL FOOD STAMPS,OH BY THE WAY SOMEONE MENTION THAT THEY DO NOT BECAUSE THEY ARE SCARED OF BEING DEPORTED {B.S.}THERE ARE ORGINATIONS OUT THERE WHO PAMPER THOESE WHO ARE HERE ILLEGALLY,NOT THUS IS TRUE THEY DONOT LIVE IN THE BEST OF WHAT LIFE HAS TO OFFER US BUT IF THEY HAD JUST FOLLOWED THE LAW AND APPLIED TO COME HERE AND WAITED UNTILL AMERICA SAID YES, THEN THEY TO WOULD OF BEEN GIVEN THE BEST OF OPPERTUNITY AS WE DO AS LEGAL AMERICANS.BUT THEY BROKE THE LAW THERE KIDS ARE RUNNING WILD OUT OF CONTROL GANG BANGING BECAUSE THEY THINK THEY ARE “COOL” WANT TO BE {HIP HOP} IDIOTS,WALFARE,FOODSTAMP,SCHOOLS MEDICAL AT LEAST THEY DO NOT PAY FOR THERE KIDS THEY HAVE OVERBURDENING THE HOSPITAL AND THE WORKFORCE WHO WOULD WORK AT THOSE JOBS YOU ALL SAY THAT WE WON’T WE WOULD IF GIVEN THE OPPERTUNITY,TALK ABOUT RACIST THEY ARE THE LEADERS OF RACIST THERE IS,TRY TO GET A JOB AT A MEXICAN RESTARANT,OR ANY MEXICAN OWN PLACES OR JUST MANAGE PLACES LIKE TOCO BELL,ECT….
            ANWSER;THERE NEEDS TO BE MORE WHIPPED CREAM ON THE AMERICAN APPLE PIE,
            IF THERE KIDS DO NOT FOLLOW THE RULE OF THE LAW THEN ALL OF THE FAMILY WILL HAVE TO LEAVE THE COUNTRY AND BAND FROM COMING BACK IN.HOW CAN WE JUSTIFY THIS WRITTEN RULE AT ALL BORDERS IN BIG {ENGLISH}ONLY ANYONE COME TO THE COUNTRY ILLEGALLY AND DOES NOT FOLLOW THE RULES OF THE LAW AND IS FOUND GUILTY THE WHOLE FAMILY WILL SUFFER THE CONSIQUENCE AS WILL MABE BY DOING THIS WE WILL START TO LIMIT THE INFLAX OF BAD DRUG DEALING GANG BANGING PROPERTY DEFACING OVER STRESSED WORKFORCE.CA,IS BROKE NOT JUST FINANICALLY BROKEN IN SO MANY WAYS.IT WILL TAKE A REAL ELECTED OFFICAL WHO DOES NOT CARE ABOUT POPERLARITY AND WHAT POLL SAY ABOUT HIM OR HER BUT DOES THE RIGHT THING OH AND CAN I SAY THAT WE DO NOT NEED ANOTHER LEGASTRATION TO BLOCK HIS OR HER EVERY MOVE LILE THE DEMOCRATS DID TO PRES,BUSH.I KNOW THAT;THAT WAS WHAT ARNOLD WAS TO DO WENT HE GOT IN OFFICE AND AGAIN HE HAS THE DEMOCRATS BLOCK HIS EVERY MOVE NOY FAIR.IF THEY HAD NOT DONE THAT THEM ARNOLD WOULD HAVE SOLVED ALOT OF CA, PROBLEMS, BUT THE DEMOCRATS WOULD HAVE NONE OF THAT BECAUSE TO HAVE TOO HEAR HOW GREAT THAT THE STATE IS IN BECAUSE OF A REPUBLICAN IN OFFICE THAT WOULD KILL THE DEMOCRATS,LOOK WE ALL KNOW THAT THE ONLY THING THAT IS ON THE DEMOCRATS AGENDA IS HOMOSEXUALS GETTING MARRIED WHICH WE KNOW WILL NEVER HAPPEN FOR GOOD REASONS AND AMMISTYFOR ILLEGALS WITH WE CAN SAY IS NOT A GOOD PIECE LAGERSLATION NO WAY NO HOW.IT WOULD BE GOING BACKARDS.SO JOHN AND KEN FROM K.F.I.640 AM RADIO.STEVE POISNER WHO PROBLIBLY HAS MY VOTE NOT 100 % SURE OF THAT YET BUT HE IS A LIKLY CANIDATE FOR GOVENER.I CLOSE WITH THIS ONE THING,DO YOU WANT YOUR CHILD TO BE SUJECTED TO HOMOSEXUAL’S TO BE OUT RIGHT GROSS,FREINDLY ADVICE I HAVE BEEN TO SAN FRANCISCO AND TO WEST HOLLYWOOD AND HAVE SEEN FRIST HAND AT HOW THEY BEHAVIOR IN PLUBIC PLACES AND I’LL TELL YOU THAT IS NOT THE KIND OF BEHAVIOR THAT I FOR ONE WANT TO SUBJECT MY CHILDREN TO WHAT A BOUT YOU?TOO ADD TO THIS THAT MY CHILDS GRADES HAVE SLIPPED THE CLASSES HAVE GONE FROM 19 TO 34 WITH DIRUPTIVE KIDS WHO POKE FUN MAKE COMMENT IN SPANISH AND DISRUPT THE WHOLE CLASS AND HAVE NO INTENTION AF LEARNING ENGLISH AND THE TEACHER WILL JUST PASS THEM ALONG TO SOME ELSE THE NEXT YEAR SO THEY WILL NOT HAVE TO DEAL WITH THEM THE NEXT YEAR,AND THEY ARE AFFRAID OF THE REPERCUSSIONS OF MABE BEING SHOT OUT SIDE OF THE SCHOOL IF THE TEACHER DOES NOT PASS THEM,AMD THE OTHER FACTOR OF A SPANISH SPEEKING TEACHER WILL PASS A STUDENT JUST BECAUSE THEY ARE MEXICAN”THEY MUST STICK TOGATHER”AS SOON AS ONE DOES NOT THEN THEY ARE BAND FROM THERE CULTURE AND THEY WILL NOT BACK THEM UP OR BETTER YET MADE THEY WILL MAKE TROUBLE FOR THAT TEACHER,HOWEVER YOU LOOK AT IT THERE NEEDS TO BE SOMETHING DONE WITH THIS,

        • tim

          Jerry, nice comment on how the protestors of the Vietnam re-energized the progressives………..If you recall, that War was lost, because of the lack of plan, and the underestimation of our enemy, which we’ve done in EVERY War since WWII…………….You can’t look at the World in Black & White……you feel like you HAVE to always be against something, so it fits what you think, is your ideology (I believe Im the only one on this blog, to spell this word correctly)…….I suppose you think the Iraq BLUNDER was a good idea, and was planned well???????

          • libertytrain

            While I don’t remember his name, the highest ranking general of the North Vietnamese said the US was winning the war until it started to become unpopular in this Country – and that gave North Vietnam the advantage – I’m sure it could be Googled but I’m not free right now to do that. Have at it.

          • tim

            Regarding the Vietnam war, Ho Chi Min, said that, during the war, Americans could kill 10 of our soldiers, and we can only kill one American, and we will still win the war……..

            Public opinion back home did NOT lose the War for us in Vietnam……..that is the same argument (I’m not saying you, sidewinder, are making it) that, if we were against the Iraq War, then we emboldened the terrorists………

            The American Military, the American Politicians, underestimated the resolve of the Vietnamese, they under -planned on the “terrain” they were going to be fighting in, and…..the average age of an American soldier in Vietnam was 19, while it was almost 26 in WWII…………

            Like the Urban war in Iraq, that we were unprepared for, we were even more un-prepared for the guerilla war in Southeast Asia………..

            And, the problem with Cold War policy, as it related to wars we actually, physically fought, is that we cookie-cutted every Communist Nation, and every Communist Country population……….

            Look at the Korean War……my God, General McArthur NEVER believed that the Chinese were going to enter the war…………and many battles that preceded the
            Chinese intervention, were fought with that exact assumption………….

            We haven’t done well, in War, since WWII…………..

      • gregory

        HEY AM LIB

        how did you like that imfo sale to the germans from the tanzanian gov?
        COMMIE OBAMIES jail cell is one day closer!
        HOW ABOUT THOSE ELECTIONS LAST KNIGHT?
        Taxed–Enough–Already!!! RIGHT ON!
        SAD DAY FOR THE MARXIST!!

        AMERICAN INDIANS WILL SURVIVE

        • Ricky

          THE INIDAN NATION WILL RETURN.,,,,,,,

      • Meteorlady

        Gads stop winning Am Lib – they all had time to secure our borders. We were promised in 1986 if amnesty happened the borders would be secure. I WANT them secured first and then talk about what comes next. Until that happens we can get nowhere and do nothing at all to stop the violence on our borders, to stop the drug peddling and gang activities, to stop the identity thieves, and most all all stop the murder and destruction that is spilling over onto our side of the border.

        The fact is we don’t need anymore people collecting social services and living off what I make, we need productive people that are educate and responsible. That means people that will better themselves through education and assimilate into our society. It doesn’t mean speaking their language in order for THEM to understand us, expecting us to translate for them in courts and medical facilities, expect us to teach their children in their language, expect us to subsidize their housing or pay for their food.

      • HeresAndiej

        Please inform us as to precisely what it was Clinton did to stop illegals from entering the USA during his eight years as President?

    • Right Wing

      You are such a butt kisser that you must actually work in the white house Amlib! Glad to know that you trust the president and surrender your right to due diligence for your own interests. Pucker up brown noser.

    • Doug

      American Liberal can you get a new play book? The Dems and the Rebs are the same wake the F*** up we don’t need more govt we need less and we need real working people who know how to work and have run things not some text book dummies like we have today.

      • Meteorlady

        I truly believe that AM LIB is hired to do this. I’ve seen his/her posts exactly the same wording commenting on various subjects. I try, really try, not to respond because there is no logical brain in Am LIBs head.

  • Right Wing

    I will make a prediction that this article will draw full attention from the libs for two reasons. 1.) their attention to supporting incumbents in the primaries is on hold (FAIL). 2.) the topic concerns something gay. Most of the posts for the last few articles have been devoid of liberal slants but mark my words…they are crying and here they come.

  • Sharon DeAndrea

    Oboma’s goal is to bring down America! That is his muslin agenda, and the American’s who voted him in by popular vote – deserve what they will get. However, those of us who did not vote for him – don’t deserve what we will get. Yahway said if HIS people called by HIS NAME -would turn from THEIR wicked ways, ONLY then will HE hear from Heaven and heal our land. It’s not happening, those “so called followers of Christ”, think their ways are better than God’s ways. A blessing? NO, a CURSE on our land. Only, the real belivers that KNOW HIM can continue to pray for an extension or for HIS return quickly.

    • Chaos Factor

      Sharon…what a post full of rightwing Christian nonsense …. Your living in a fantasy world.. You should make am attempt to live in the real world….keep your Christian nonsense outta our government…

      • http://www.complex-air.com Jerry

        You sure got your name right Chaos!

        Progressives like you that are trying to destroy our country, that was FOUNDED on Christianity, seem to bypass the fact that since all of you “do gooders” that are removing Christ from our lives has left schools and family’s and our country in a total mess. There use to be discipline in schools; now teachers are afraid to stand up to a student. What does it mean now when someone goes to court OR takes an oath to defend and protect our constitution and country while their hand is on the bible any more? NOTHING because no one upholds to truth any longer. So what if you get up on a stand and lie, what are they going to do? Nothing. So what if you tell your teacher to go stick their head where the sun doesn’t shine. What happens? Nothing. Maybe a slap on the hand but nothing in reality and then YOU just can’t figure out why there is so much crime and that is because you have your head stuck up the progressive movement so far you can’t see the light and realize that YOU are going to pay the price just like the rest of us with Hussein Obama’s movement to carry on where Wilson and Roosevelt left off and others tried to do, especially both Bush’s and Clinton.

        Hussein Obama has come in with his force of Marxist, socialistic movement and are doing things behind the scenes that are even going to piss you off.

        You like the freedom of being able to write this on the internet like the rest of us? Well, you better look at your progressive president, Hussein Obama, because they are currently drafting up a bill to remove your rights to say what you wish on the internet. Guess who else is for this? KAGAN!!!!!

        YOU PROGRESSIVE PEOPLE BETTER WAKE UP BECAUSE YOU ARE LOSING THE SAME RIGHTS AS EVERYONE ELSE AND BELIEVE YOU ME, YOU AIN’T GONNA LIKE IT!!!!!

        • tim

          Jerry, the Founders believed in Religious FREEDOM, but they stopped short of condoning one religion over another……….They feared religious influence on Government……….Why do you Jerry Falwells continue to shove Christianity down the throats of ALL americans…….I’m a proud christian, but I do not believe this Country was founded on ONE religion……..that is Religious ARROGANCE, nothing more………….

          • Sidewinder

            At least some people are getting it Tim.

            What pisses me off is every other word out of their mouth is Constitution this or Constitution that, but the very spirit of the First Amendment seems lost on them. Some of them..

            And the willful blindness….Obama’s health “Reform” Bill was a liberty shredding disaster. I don’t favor either party.

            My main gripe is about all the anti Obama complaints I keep hearing. These people are complaining about Obama’s abuses. WELL WHERE WERE THEY during the Bush administration?

            Its the double standard that I take issue with.

            They want religion in government, but only if its theirs.

            They want to point out constitutional abuses, but not the ones their Republican pres makes.

            They tell me to stop bashing Bush, then they bash Obama nonstop.

            They tell me its better to focus on solutions. I offer a solution, they offer Obama bashing.

            They accuse me of inconsistancy…. But they practice double standard.

            This is what I keep hearing in so many words.

            They advocate violent overthrow of the government. Yet have the nerve to complain yesterday pointing out that Obama is training troops for Urban Combat and house to house searches in America.
            They cannot fathom that perhaps all this talk of violence is being heard in what the Bush Administration used to refer as “Chatter.” They take no responsibility that perhaps the govt is responding to THEM and their stupidity.

            I might not have the answers, but I came up with a solution and how to implement it and posted it in Monday’s topic.
            I have sent my idea to several Libertarian groups and Tea Party groups. Its up to them what they want to do.

            All I have seen from certain people on this site is nothing but complaining, paranoia, and double standards.

          • BigBadJohn

            SW- “Its the double standard that I take issue with.”

            LOL I guess we do agree on a lot of things……

          • kate8

            Birds of a feather…flock together…

          • BigBadJohn

            “Birds of a feather…flock together…”

            Kate you are so right, in this case, people who take time to examine both sides of an issue and those that believe everything Faux news tells them to believe…

          • tim

            I will say, Sidewinder, that there is alot more political ugliness these days…….and certainly Bush got BASHED pretty good……….

            We are so polorized now……..

          • kate8

            Silver spoon indeed.

            If you only knew…but I won’t dignify your insolence with a response.

            If someone wants to donate private money to such programs, they have the right to do so. But it’s wrong to take taxpayer money to fund programs that work against many of those being forced to pay for them, both in idiology and voter manipulation.

            You really ought to get ahold of yourself, LITTLE BOY.

          • Sidewinder

            Kate, what the hell are you talking about?

            A libertarian is someone who, in general, supports government policies that favor individual liberty in all matters, whether economic, personal, or social.

            Libertarians are frequently characterized as “conservative on economic issues and liberal on personal issues.” It implies that libertarians are being inconsistent, whereas in fact libertarianism is more consistent than either conservatism or liberalism. I prefer to say, “Conservatives are frequently libertarian on economic issues, and liberals are frequently libertarian on personal issues.” (I would also say that conservatives are usually authoritarian on personal issues, and liberals are usually authoritarian on economic issues.)

            Source:http://www.csun.edu/~dgw61315/libFAQ.html

            Enough with me being inconsistant. I am more consistant than you.

            Can you hear me now?

          • kate8

            It was in response to another one of tim’s demeaning remarks. It just came out in the wrong place, so it doesn’t make sense.

        • Chaos Factor

          Jerry… Where did you get the delusional idea this country was founded on Christianity?… I assume you believe it’s in our constitution… Where?… Or Bill of rights?.. Again, where…..if anything this country was founded on protection from religious fanatics like yourself…..it was important NOT to have any state religion like they had in England …. But I’m not suprised that a rightwinger is confused as to the constitution and religion….I’m aginst any religious theocracy and don’t want anyones personal faith involved In my government….. If you want a religious theocracy move to Iran

          • http://www.complex-air.com Jerry

            Tim and Chaos,

            Maybe BOTH of you need to read books from the founders and how God played in everything that was written along with prayer. Washington insisted he have a minister on the battlegrounds with him but, nothing in our history books today show that. why? because the progressive movement is taking all of that out. They are REMOVING history as we, that went to school in the 40′s and 50′s studied in our books.

            Tim nowhere in my comment did I state ONE religion! I said GOD, everyone that worships “a God” has a GOD.
            Why are you progressives so afraid of God? Any God?

            The progressive movement is to remove our values, remove our God, (no matter which one it is), and take control. So, with that in mind, where have our values gone? Why is ACLU so busy removing any reference to any God? Why have values gone from treating your neighbor like a human being and standing up for the law to not even knowing your neighbor and breaking all the laws and get a slap on the hand?

            One only needs to read the truth to know what is going on and if one doesn’t look at BOTH sides of what is being said and done and question it, then we have lost our country.

            The Statue of Liberty stands for a reason. People coming to the USA use to see it with their eyes gleaming for freedom. Now they look at it and see a joke of our past. Why should an Illegal go through the process when they can just come into the USA and demand we support them?

            Do you want to set on trial in a court of law and have a person swear with their hand on the bible to any God they worship and not care if they lie or not. Watch cops and see all the criminals “swear to God” when it is obvious they are lying that they didn’t know how those drugs got in their pockets.

            Frankly, once we get “a God” back into our lives and get back to values, the USA will start to move back to a great country again but that is not going to happen with a Muslim president hussein obama who was raised to worship Allah and believe in the radical beliefs they have and believe the US is a “bad country” and have all his union goonies and ACORN all in the white house.

            I have little tolerence for people who can’t see truth when it is before them. It is the same as getting caught with the drugs in their pockets and swearing to God they don’t know how it got there.

            No one is going to enjoy all the freedoms that will be taken away if we don’t stop them now. Pay attention to what is going on BEHIND the scenes in the white house while we all set out here and bicker about bullshit stuff.

            nuff said, your statements already show how you have no desire to find out the truth about anything but want to follow the lame stream media with their bullshit stuff as their ratings go down deeper in the hole.

          • tim

            Jerry, I simply don’t want YOUR religious views shoved down my throat. and I don’t pay taxes for the government to do so…………You should celebrate your beliefs………by all means………..I’m not afraid of God……I believe in God…….but this Country WAS NOT based on one religion……..The Founders could have ALL been Christians………but they still believed in Freedom for ALL religions…………..I agree, that, I never minded prays in schools………but because the religious right started forcing their beliefs down our throats……you drew out the left wing anti-religious crowd out in the open, and NOW we have a religious battle, something that the Framers…….NEVER wanted…………Our Country has prided itself, on the Feedom of religion……while not condoning or eliminating any of them…………..I have NO problem with “In God We Trust”……….because to me, THOSE words don’t endorse ONE particular Religion…………..

          • Sidewinder

            Jerry, you said Christainity, which makes it personal. I agree references to God in government are just fine.

            Tim mentioned religion, not God. The government can take no position on religion. If a kid wants to pray in school, the school cannot stop him/her. If they do, and I believe thats happened, its a violation of that child’s First Amendment Rights.
            They cannot force prayer either.

            You get it? God is not religion. God is fine, religion is not.

            When a group wants to get God into government, they are trying to drag their own personal beliefs into it.

          • Sidewinder

            Jerry in your first post, posted 6:43 am, you did not mention God once.

            You mentioned Christianity and Christ, but not God.
            Think thats what Tim took issue with…
            Jews do not follow Christ.

            Stick with the framers intent, they had it figured out.

          • kate8

            Gee, Tim, you meant the way we are forced to pay taxes to fund the likes of ACORN, SEIU, Planned Parenthood, and a host of other left-wing idiological programs?

            You people would make me laugh if it weren’t so sickening.

          • tim

            Kate8.now who’s the Angry one…………

            Let me give you an education on Unions, little girl……

            YOU wouldn’t have a 40 work week or overtime, without Unions……
            YOU wouldn’t get sick pay if it weren’t for Unions……
            YOU wouldn’t have Healthcare Insurance through your employer, without Unions.

            You, would NOT….would NOT…….have a Middle Class, without Unions and collective bargaining…….

            Only 9% of the work force in america today are Unionized…..

            but don’t worry……all of the power is in corporations, now, just how you Corporate slaves want it………..

            Planned Parenthood………don’t get me started………

            But Kate8, you are pretty much against, anything, that helps minorities…….albeit, these Organizations are flawed, but you have to realized WHY they were there in the first place……..

            do you have any clue, as to the History of the American Worker………and how they were SCREWED by Companies back in the day…….

            NO, you wouldn’t, because you were probably born with a silver-spoon in your mouth……..

          • timr

            Greg, Unions have no Power anymore………..AND, the Corporate Lobbyists are the biggest spenders on buying votes………….don’t you think????

        • tim

          Kate8……you must be ……&#%$#&……repressed…….

          • JeffH

            timr, why are most liberals always so angry and backwards? You should cut a CD with all of your bassackward comments and make a few grand selling them for laughs. No one in their right mind would think you were serious.

          • gregory

            tim
            the unions werent as corrupt at time as they are now, they were more of a good idea at that time, now there just bought by the highest bidders…

          • American Citizen

            The problem now is the unions have overreached and are driving companies either out of this country or closing them down. They have their good points, but have to justify their existence now just as the Federal Government does by handcuffing businesses. People decry the nursing homes. My daughter said if they didn’t have to do so much paperwork, they would have the time to take care of the patients.

          • timr

            American Citizen……..only 9 % of jobs are unionized……….The American worker is not protected anymore from work-place or Corporate abuse………ot haven’t you noticed the rate of inflation compared to the rate of wages, the past 30 years…………??(excluding CEO pay, of Course)

          • gregory

            HEY TIM

            through my investigations and many other peoples investigations, it seems like the government has been buying the unions for along time,thus sold to the highest bidder, there power is in that they get a treat from the government at the tax payers expense to strong arm people and vote for the tax payer freebees promised to them for there lloyalty in a vote to the pimpmasters, thus the marxists best tool and army…

            the american indian will survive

      • tim

        Amen, Chaosfactor

    • tim

      Sharon, please explain what “Muslim Agenda” is?????………I’d really like to know………….

      • American Citizen

        You must not be listening to them. Their stated goal is to take over the world. One world religion with sharia law. Europeans are already having a problem with them.

        • Sidewinder

          More stupidity…
          You are a super hero when it comes to ignorance.

          I do not hear anything coming out of the far extremes of Islam than I do coming out of the far extremes of Christianity.

          True Christianity, would not seek to impose its views on others as that is self defeating.

          And furthermore, America was NOT founded as a Christian nation. It was founded BY Christians,….but it was founded on religious freedom.

          The men who founded this nation were much bigger than you.

          The had an ability to set aside their personal beliefs for the benefit and for fairness of all.

          They never once tried to impose their religious views on others.

          And AC….The problem in Europe…is that the Jihadists are Intelligence Assets.
          Thats why the threats come from the West rather than the Middle East where you would expect.

          But in all fairness…I wonder how Arabs might view American Empirical efforts into THEIR world through CIA manipulation in the 1950′s right on through our military invasions of Iraq. Wonder how they see it?

          You know, the world wonders why the Israelis and Palestinians can’t get along.

          Lack of respect.

          A self serving attitude, combined with arrogance = the trouble they have.

          American Citizen says:
          May 19, 2010 at 10:54 am

          You must not be listening to them. Their stated goal is to take over the world. One world religion with sharia law. Europeans are already having a problem with them.

          • HeresAndieJ

            Sidewinder says:

            More stupidity…
            You are a super hero when it comes to ignorance.
            Said like a true liberal. Attack the messenger not the message.

            “I do not hear anything coming out of the far extremes of Islam than I do coming out of the far extremes of Christianity.”
            The Muslims want to build a Mosque 2 blocks or so from where the WTC use to be? They want to show Muslims the west isn’t evil and show the west Muslims are not terrorists. They say they will accomplish this using ‘Sharia Law’.

            “True Christianity, would not seek to impose its views on others as that is self defeating.”
            If you knew anything about Christianity, you would refrain from speaking such untruths.

            “And furthermore, America was NOT founded as a Christian nation. It was founded BY Christians,….but it was founded on religious freedom.”
            America was founded on Judeo/Christian principles.
            Sometime look up how many times the words God, higher power, almighty is used in the Constitution. BTW, America was not founded on religious freedom.

            “The men who founded this nation were much bigger than you.” they might have been alot heavier. LOL

            “The had an ability to set aside their personal beliefs for the benefit and for fairness of all.”
            Two or was it three of the founders were Atheists.

            “They never once tried to impose their religious views on others.”
            I believe they were alittle busy writing the Constitution, but not without mentioning God, higher power and almighty.

            “And AC….The problem in Europe…is that the Jihadists are Intelligence Assets.
            Thats why the threats come from the West rather than the Middle East where you would expect.”
            The Muslim problem in Europe is the same problem they are having with Muslims in Toronto,Canada. They are trying to take over, they are bringing their excess baggage from their country to the new country.

            “But in all fairness…I wonder how Arabs might view American Empirical efforts into THEIR world through CIA manipulation in the 1950’s right on through our military invasions of Iraq. Wonder how they see it?”
            They could care less as long as they can use America to protect their them and their country from their fellow Muslims.

            “You know, the world wonders why the Israelis and Palestinians can’t get along.”
            Because the Palestinians say Isreal stole land from them, whereas they won it in another war. The more land Isreal gives to them the more they want, that is why there is no peace there or many other Islamic countries. All the ME countries have been fighting for thousands of years, why should they stop doing what they like to do and do pretty well.
            Bottom line is they want Isreal annihilated, they despise the Jewish people to the highest degree.
            The fighting will never stop until every Jewish person in The State of Isreal is dead.So far no ME country has or can destroy Isreal, with the exception of Iran should they go with a nuclear bomb.

            “Lack of respect.”
            Has nothing to do with respect its all about hating the State of Israel and all its people.

      • http://personalliberty.com dave

        Dear uneducated one: there are two muslim “agendas”. 1) Ignore parts of the Quran or 2) exercise parts of the Quran which says to KILL THE INFIDELS…basically anyone not muslim, especially Jews(extra credit!), or anyone muslim because they were in the way. Subjugate women to “lower than slave status”, they can not work, be educated, drive a car, wear makeup, show their face or their hair or any other body part, can not vote(where they even have voting!), can not speak to a man in public, and will be stoned to death if they are raped. I think sharia law would be just right for an idiot like you!

    • tim

      Sharon,

      Your post is a poster-child, for WHY…..Religion and Politics make very strange bedfellows…………..

  • marylu czulewicz

    Today is my Birthday and the greatest gift is the country getting back to GOD! I am a Tea-bagger and proud of it. In the last two years my life has been put on hold and so has many other Americans, but there is a light at the end and that is the call for Freedom. It is amazing to me that the idea of our founders has come full circle. We can now see how freedom really works it shows in the elections last night. The people want thier country back. Happy Birthday to ME and America.

    • http://www.complex-air.com Jerry

      Happy Birthday Marylu!!!

      It appears, whether “they” like it or not, GOD is making his way back into the USA!!!!! Government has gone to far.

      People are starting to put their flags back up, say their prayers and stand up for what is right.

      One has to love Glenn Beck for bringing all of this out and driving the progressive idiots crazy and if he is so wrong, why hasn’t the white house called him. Kind of hard to argue with him playing the video’s of them actually saying it themselves.

      Happy BD girl!

      • Chaos Factor

        Keep your invisable friend to yourself ….. Your gonna find yourself to be a minority real soon and you’ll be happy then that people like me fought to keep all religions out of our government….faith is a personal thing… Not something forced on people….so keep your religious bigotry to yourself… I have no interest in it…Iran has a state religion ,move there

        • JeffH

          The sheeple will become “mutton” soon enough. Enjoy the free feeding while it lasts.

          • kate8

            Jeff, have you noticed how more and more the left is dominating these threads? They must really find these sites threatening.

            I would never DREAM of posting on a liberal blog. For one thing, it would be a complete waste of time and aggravation. You can’t get them to see reason, and there would be no point in it. There are far more productive ways to spend one’s time than showing everyone how juvenile one is, while performing an exercise in complete futility.

            Just kind of makes you wonder, what the heck….

          • JC

            We’ve got them outnumbered and they are going down in flames Kate.
            The fact that they are flocking here to spew hatred and racism is merely symptomatic of an anxiety they are unable to focus anywhere else.
            They’re not dominting anything.

          • Sidewinder

            You are right Kate8
            And you have show me well…
            Attempting to reason with certain people is….complete futility.

            I have in fact…moved on. I am coming back here to amuse myself. I will no longer post any more good ideas.

            You really would be surprised at the different viewpoints out there in the real “Unsheltered” world.
            People can actually totally disagree and not take it personally.

            They don’t “Bug Out” and accuse others of being a “Government Plant” like YOU did…LOL!

            It just seems so much more SANE off this site…

            there are far more productive ways to spend one’s time than showing everyone how juvenile one is, while performing an exercise in complete futility.

          • Sidewinder

            And the funny thing too katey Kat…

            I am exactly what I always said I was.

            I don’t totally agree with Liberals..Don’t totally agree with Conservatives…Don’t totally agree with Libertarians. But I am more libertarian than anything else, but I do break with them too in many areas.

            Sorry you got so confused…

            I never tailored my personal belief system to someone else’s platform..and sold out what I believed to be right.
            Maybe why I never joined a church…

            I just go with what makes sense.

            Tell me…if it were up to YOU…how would YOU save America?

            Any original thought? Anything at all?

            Sorry.
            Not gonna hold my breath…

        • American Citizen

          People who think like you have it all wrong. It is not one religion the tea party people are fighting for, it a return of our government to the Constitution. What we have now is a “feel good” government. If it feels good, do it no matter who has to pay for it. The problem is, once the Federal Government has total control over our lives, it will be hard to remove the chains.

        • Anthony

          Chaos Factor – You have just comitted a bandwagon philosophy. Try not watching manistream tv all the time. In fact, try llistening to internet radio that speaks off the grid. You’re ape-ing the Establishment.

        • tim

          Sidewinder,

          I can’t stand when you tell people that you don’t subscribe to being Democrat OR Republican, and are told, that you don’t believe in anything…….that is always ridiculous…….

          The truth lies somewhere in the center, on most issues……..

        • HeresAndiej

          She has every right to express her thoughts as written in the Constitution under ‘freedom of speech’ same as you do.
          Liberals have tried to take conservatives freedom of speech away for years, hasn’t worked at all.

          You sir are an apparent left wing liberal with alot of typical LWL jerk thrown in. What liberal school did you attend to learn the liberal key words as you all say the exact same thing using the exact words.
          Don’t libs have any imagination?

          Liberals like you say some offensive things to anyone that refuses to agree with your way of thinking. That is your Constitutional right to free speech… as it is for all Americans.

          I may not agree with anything you say, which I don’t. However I will fight for your right to say it.
          That’s the American way.

    • http://personalliberty.com dave

      Marylu darling: happy B’day and, you are a TEA PARTIER! A teabagger is a Barney Franker…get it?

    • HeresAndieJ

      Happy Birthday Tea Party member. May you have many more happy B-Days.

      Obama/Pelosi and her pet dog Reid call the the Tea Partiers “Tea Baggers” which is a put down to all peaceful marchers taht are true Americans only wanting their country left alone, saying NO to socialists attempting to take America down the path to a government controlled country.

  • http://charter.net susanburnette

    diversity is going to be the death of our country.send the illegals home and let them come the right way.

    • tim

      Susan……..Diversity is OK, when it includes European diversity, like German, Irish, or English………but, how dare we, throw a little “color” in there…………..Your statements are plain ignorant

      • Voice of Reason

        Tim,

        Honestly, you are probably one of the biggest d*uche bags I’ve seen comment here.

        Nobody cares here about somebodies “color” or WHERE they came from, do you understand the whole amnesty/illegals issue is NOT ABOUT RACE dimwit?

        These people are I L L E G A L. They have BROKEN THE LAW, they are CRIMINALS. What do you do to criminals? You PUNISH them, you don’t slap them on the back and tell them good job, here’s your citizenship.

        People are more than welcome to come to this country the right way, so get in line behind the others that have been waiting and doing it the right way! No other country INCLUDING MEXICO allows illegals to pour into their country, leeching off the system unpunished like we do. Try going to Mexico illegaly and see what happens! You’ll get locked up!

        You want to talk about ignorant comments, sir you are the KING.

        • tim

          Now see, Bob Livingston??………..I’m being called and dimwit and douche-bag…………..but I suppose THAT is OK………….

          • libertytrain

            tim – after days of calling people names you have gotten back what you have dished out. Perhaps you will find if you sincerely try to stop your racist attacks you’ll not get it back at you.

          • JeffH

            libertytrain, I always enjoy your “to the point” comments.

          • libertytrain

            JeffH – well thank you, Jeff. You know that I enjoy yours as well – and of course, Claires, though I may not always respond – I’m with you.

          • libertytrain

            JeffH, and I think if tim would just get himself a good brat, perhaps open a brewski, maybe a little Merkt’s cheese on the side, he’d be able to relax a little.

          • tim

            Libertyrian…….I will stop pointing out Racial and ethnic remarks, when the people on this Blog do………….I suppose Martin Luther King was a Racist??

          • libertytrain

            Tim – Timr – Wrong person to ask – I was always a fan of his, back in the 60′s when we marched across the 16th Street Viaduct and worked with the inner city kids – ah, before your time – Back in Father Groppi’s heyday. You must have missed my posts to you.

        • tim

          Voice of Reason……..Your’e a JOKE…………

          • Doug

            Tiny Tim ML had some good ideas unfortunately he could not live within his own thoughts. He was a womanizer and he also plagiarized a lot of his speeches from a others such as his roommate he was going to bible school with. He had some great ideas but he also was not everything people say he was!

          • libertytrain

            I agree he did have his problems. What I like about him is he got off his butt and actually did something, whether one agrees with him or not. He was a positive force behind a change that needed to happen. I often times wonder what more would have happened had he not been stopped. I also think he would be sad to see the plays his pals have done all in the name of power and money.

        • tim

          LiberyTrain, i must have mis-interpreted you, SOMEWHAT……

          16th street vioduct……….Father Grappi………are you from Milwaukee???

          • libertytrain

            Only somewhat – I couldn’t vote for Obama last year and can’t think of any reason I’d for him now. Frankly I think we have come far enough that we can actually vote for a man because of his record or not vote for him because of his lack of record – I wouldn’t vote for someone just because he is black or just because he is white. And all the folks I know that didn’t vote for him had the same rationale, whereas, my extreme leftist acquaintances or family only voted for him because he was black. Milwaukee – was born and raised there. Left it about 25 years ago.

          • libertytrain

            make that vote for a man or woman – I would have voted for Condi Rice in a flash.

          • Anthony

            LibertyTrain – That’s very Martin Luther King Jr … of you. YOU have just voiced the express opinion of MLKII, to judge a man by the content of his character. Obama was nothing more than a community organizer and a quik google for that title brings up all sorts of names most people would rather not be identified with. Hitler, was an Organizer. Mao, was an Organizer. Saddam Hussein, was an Organizer….. just to name three. It’s not a profitable search, if you’re looking for positives.

            As far as the Article? Obama had no real experience paying salaries, etc., and now he is appointing a Judge with NO experience AS A JUDGE. Personally, I’m not shocked. I expected it. I should have called Jimmy the Greek.

            If all of you were to read Ben Franklin’s comments – you would find that the over-riding attitude of most “new” Americans back in the late 1700′s, was this – the most important issue for creating this Country, was to escape the Central Bank and the grip on money the Monarchy had and how it worked to KEEP THE PEOPLE POOR. Shortly after we signed the Constitution, Napoleon had his Waterloo and thru that the Rothschilds family used their trickery to take over the Bank of England. Their next stop? Hamilton and the 1st bank of the United States… a Central Bank.

            All of you can keep on with the diatribes, but until you face this fact… you are blowing it big time.

          • Anthony

            Oh, LibertyTrain? GO PACKERS!

          • libertytrain

            Anthony – the Packers are with us no matter what state we live in —- Go Packers —

          • libertytrain

            Anthony – that was my take on Rev. King as well based on watching him speak all those years ago, and watching them again now – Public TV just had an excellent show on that time of his life and it was still invigorating to hear that speech again.

          • Claire

            libertytrain– GO PACKERS!!!!!!!!! Geez, I remember the Vince Lombardi days!! Wonderful!! I LOVE the Green Bay Packers!!! Always will!!

          • JeffH

            Now now, I have a couple of bad memories of the packers. Seems they beat my Raiders in a Super Bowl in ’67 then the Bret Farve Pack demolished them in Oakland after his father passed on, but we still gave him a standing ovation.

          • libertytrain

            Hi Claire -hope all is well with all of you and Robin too. I remember that First Superbowl and the Second – even though I was “young” —

          • Claire

            libertytrain–I remember the Packers in the early years too. When I was young! lol

        • http://GOGGLE vaksal

          TO VOICE OF REASON I AGREE WITH YOU 100 PER CENT,WELL PUT.

      • Sidewinder

        “send the illegals home and let them come the right way”

        Nothing wrong with that Tim. Think you misunderstood.

      • kate8

        Dropped the r, tim?

        • tim

          No Kate8…..I’m still the same guy as timr…..just omitted it somehow…….
          You ARE an angry Broad, though…………..

          • JC

            At least she’s not deranged (like you), and she has every right to be angry.

          • kate8

            What I am is fed up with the likes of you and your ilk.

            And tim, you are not only angry, you are filled with rage. You really should get some help with that, before it does you in.

          • timr

            My anger will stop, once you wack-jobs stop going after Obama, because of WHERE he came from, or the ethnicity of his Family………..

      • JC

        Completely avoiding the real issues involved with massive illegal immigration that is sucking the life out of our economy “Tim the Racist” speaks again…BORRRIIING!

      • http://personalliberty.com dave

        So exactly what is this CRAP about COLOR FOOL? Are we not all HUMAN BEINGS and EQUAL?! Funny how so many black folks voted for Obama, JUST BECAUSE HE IS BLACK!! AND THE IDIOT IS GOING TO KILL THE GOOSE WHICH LAYS THE GOLDEN EGGS!!! BLACKS HERE HAVE A HIGHER STANDARD OF LIVING THAN ANYWHERE ELSE IN THE WORLD! THE WONDERFUL OBAMA WHO PROCLAIMS WE MUST TAKE CARE OF EACH OTHER, IS A MILLIONAIRE(NOW! LIKE ALL PROGRESSIVES AFTER THEY GET INTO OFFICE!)AND HIS BROTHER LIVES IN A GRASS HUT WITH A DIRT FLOOR…ALL YOU LIBERALS SHOULD JOIN HIM NOW! OBAMA WILL HAVE US ALL THERE SOON! YOU CAN NOT LEGISLATE WEALTH…ONLY MISERY, AND HE IS DOING A GREAT JOB AT IT! SOON THERE WILL NOT BE A COMPANY LEFT TO WORK FOR AND THE DUMBASS THINKS EVERYONE CAN WORK FOR THE GOVERNMENT. HE IS SOON TO BE THE MOST HATED MAN IN HISTORY.

        • tim

          Dave,

          What is with all of the anger?? (trust me, I can relate)…….
          The blacks have it better than WHO…..?????…the Etheopeans????????

          I suppose they should THANK you????

    • David

      AMEN GIRL YOU HIT THE NAIL RIGH ON THE HEAD

  • tim

    Thank God, Thurgood Marshall was on the court to stop people like Rehnquist. Majority rule is all well and good, but, could you imagine if Jim Crow still existed, or if board v Boars of Education never passed???……….Every President has the advantage of naming a Supreme Court Justice when a vacany appears…….President Obama is no different………If it were up to the strict constructionists like Robert Bork (boy, did we dodge a bullet with THAT one), Minorities would have been kept down til the end of days………The country isn’t going to be adjudicated by nothing but WASPS anymore………

    • http://www.boblivingstonletter.com/ Bob Livingston

      Dear tim (timr),
      Please spare us from the incessant rants that come through your race-tinted glasses. I’m not sure I can bear another day of them. Despite what you seem to think, not everyone here sees things as issues that are divided in terms of black of white. You are the one obsessing over race issues.
      Best wishes,
      Bob

      • tim

        Bob, with all due respect………Were you OK with Jim Crow……..???
        I’m not going away, so you keep on letting your bloggers refer to Obama as anything they want……….It’s MY right to call out Bigots when I see them…………or do you believe in censorship??/

        • http://www.boblivingstonletter.com/ Bob Livingston

          Dear tim (timr),
          You ask “Were you OK with Jim Crow……..???” What do you think? I’m not going to be drawn into a discussion where I respond to your ridiculous hypotheticals. What I am telling you is, your accusations of racism and name-calling at everyone who disagrees with you or Obama’s policies are tiresome and add nothing to the discussion. Intelligent discussion is welcomed. Name-calling is not. Censorship? Call it what you want, but we need the discussion to remain rational lest everyone else decide to quit coming back and you end up shouting in an echo chamber. The choice of whether you are allowed to remain is yours.
          All the best,
          Bob

          • tim

            Perhaps I get a bit angry, Bob, at the way Obama is being portrayed………..I’ll tone down a bit, since I respect my opportunity to be on your blog…….I will say, that I don’t believe that being against Obama’s policies, alone, consitutes Racism…….but it’s the words they chose, the ethnic slurs they use and the suttle messages in the process of being against those policies, that is the issue with me………

            Can you see the difference, and don’t you acknowledge them??

            I appreciate your honesty bob…….

          • JeffH

            Bob Livingston, in support of the Personal Liberty Digest , yourself, your staff and the great forum you provide, timr and his ilk will never be allowed to silence this website.

          • libertytrain

            JeffH – I’ll second that and the motion carries.

          • JeffH

            I’ll add as a sort of resonse to timr…the power of the word can only affect a weak mind…see it for what it is, not what you wish it to be…paranoia mind destoia..

          • libertytrain

            Jeff H – to your last comment —And in my best Milwaukee speak (though I admit I’m long out of practice,) ‘yeah, hey.’

          • Al Sieber

            I agree, we can have a rational discussion with out the name calling.

          • Anthony

            BOB -
            I recommend TIM (timr) go read all of Barack Obama’s Executive Orders. I’m fairly certain he will avoid any mention of the topic.

        • JC

          Timr You miss the point. Every one of your hysterical rants is laced with racism. YOU are the racist. And you are offensive on every level.

          • timr

            JC, I will ALWAYS be offensive to the likes of you, because I defend people’s heritage and regardless of what their ethnic backrounds are……..and as long as people like you refer to Obama as a Nazi, or Dictator or animal, or Marxist, or Kenyan……….JUST to show your mostly caucasion friends, that HE INDEED is different than us……….THENN, I will stop annoying you…………Ralph Ellison, the author of Invisible Man (you probably never heard of him or this book)………said………..”I am Invisible, understand, because people refuse to see Me”……………Well I saw those Katrina victims, even though Bush and Nagan and much of the Country didn’t…………..

      • tim

        Bob, so you are OK with this “ethnic” ranting that goes on, on this Blog………There are No comments on Obama’s race, ethnicity, or backround, here…..???…….are you actually reading these posts………???

      • tim

        Most right-wingers NEVER want to talk about Race…………….

        • s c

          tin, conservtivs be glad to tawk with u bout race carz . . . . fust, you needz to get ridd uv dat damn lily white Yugo u drivz . . . . i overluk de idee dat you done no nuttin bout de downtrotten . . . . I’z tole long time go bout dem dmn liberlz and deer pekulyer wayz . . . . u redy to tawk, er u juz gwina run owt at yo mouf?
          ah needz me nuther malt likker ifn i stups to watse mah time on a dam ignernt liberl . . . . hou u get to bee so dam d u m ?
          o yah . . . . and 8 bleepin yeerz o bubber klinton ! . . . .

          • kate8

            sc, that calls for of applause……….

          • kate8

            sc, I meant “round of applause”.

            Don’t know if it’s me or my computer that is tired.

        • Sidewinder

          Just let it go dude….
          I think you misunderstood what was being said.

        • George E

          Tim,

          Have you not noticed how many liberals define most issues in terms of race (as well as gender, sexuality, and religion)? This is tiresome to most conservatives. We generally do not believe most issues should be decided based on those factors, unless you want to deprive us of our liberties in the process. Then we’ll engage vigorously.

        • Vicki

          tim says:

          “Most right-wingers NEVER want to talk about Race…………….”

          That is cause we know there is nothing to talk about. We are inherently colorblind and unlike the average liberal know that we are all of ONE race. The Human Race.

          • JeffH

            Vicki, a very honest answer.

          • tim

            Vicki…….we SHOULD be color blind…….We SHOULD be of one race……….

            But if you know the history of people of color in this Country, then you know, that the above assumptions were not realities for them…………….

            It took some 200 years for Blacks to be able to vote………..it took 200 years for de-segregation…………

        • JC

          Because it’s irrelevant to everyone here. You’re the only resident racist.

        • gregory

          hey tim

          alot of folks feel uncomfortable to talk about race because there is always a race baiter in the background asking the questions, they hate there for they are, why does race matter anyway? arent we all gods people? most people i know of all races just want there freedom from the corrupt evil ones and keep the money they ern’d through a honest days work, not to be stollen by the commie pirates, maybe you just need more love in your life, there are dating services out there that will more than welcome you in, if you want i can find one for you, just ask …

          • kate8

            gregory, not only that, but my take is that there are people of many ethnicities posting here.

            I really don’t understand tim’s problem about race, since he said he is white. According to him, white’s have the world by the tail. All I can figure is that his life is miserable and he’s looking for someone to blame. He seems to think that we were all born wealthy and have never had to suffer in life. He is a poor soul.

            We all understand that it is about character, what’s in one’s heart. Not the color of one’s skin.

          • timr

            Gregory, I am quite happy as I’ve been married for 20 years to the same, hispanic, lovely woman………but thanks just the same…………( I can show you her papers if you’d like, even though she is from Puerto Rico, which, if you didn’t know, is a protectorate of the U.S.)………….

          • George E

            Tim,

            Congratulations on being married to the same lovely woman that long. Unfortunately, not many people can say that these days. I’d like to think this says something about your character.

          • gregory

            hey tim

            i saw your post, and like you ive been married since 1986 to the same woman as well, and like you i went out side of my culture, i married the daughter of a american indian chief who in past history was an enemy of my culture, he now loves me like a son and i the same, what my post to you yesterday was just an observation of the negitive feelings you have against the tax payer, i was trying to figure out what was missing in your life, i thought maybe it was love–you have corrected me, now all i can figure is that you may be missing faith and hope—and when you get the three together– like the trinity you can become complete with FAITH-HOPE AND LOVE, at that point i believe your life will change, you will beable to leap out of that evil circle the pimp masters have you inslaved in –to do there bidding of hate on the street and face the fact that you might be defending the actions of the devil and his goons. this world is just temporary–when your gone what do you care, i just want to get through this life knowing i have always work’d hard to gain the comforts i earn’d, to help the ones i am close to, and not let the evil ones take anything away from me that i worked so hard for in a moral mannor, i dont care about what race you are or what political party you are involved with.

            JUST DONT TREAD ON ME OR TRY TO TAKE MY LIBERTYS,
            it seems to me we have some pimpmasters in washington that feel that it is ok to racebait, and inslave the folks that just dont seem to be capable of doing for them selves due to there handout mentality that they have been train’d to be stuck in–kind of like a train’d bear, give the bear a snack and promise to give him more, he will adopt your own sick agenda and fight for you until you quit giving him his snacks then even the bear will turn on the master, when COMMIE OBAMIE RUNS OUT OF EVERYBODY ELSES MONEY WILL THE BEARS TURN ON HIM AND EAT HIM… the hand out society has never worked in history for verry long and has even destroyed them selves…

            AMERICAN INDIANS WILL SURVIVE!!!
            FAITH , HOPE , AND LOVE

          • tim

            Gregory…..other than the Obama Commie comment, I thank you, that you pointed out, that there is still hope for me……….I will be honest with you, I volunteer and have worked in poverty stricken neighborhoods, and it is SAD, the state that some of these people are in…………..I NEVER escape from personal responsibility, but I just think that there are many variables to the Race issue……and there is NO coincidence, that certain racial backrounds yield vastly different success rates……….We have come a LONG way, no doubt, but we are not that far removed from the Civil rights ERA…..YES, the violence is WAY down, but the institutional racism and the lack of economic opportunity is alive and well………….I hae talked ith 100′s of Community leaders, and I know first hand, what these people are up against, and it tears at my stomach to see and hear people poke fun, at Obama’s time as Community organizer…………There is NO way anyone can truly understand other people’s plight, until you see it day to day…………..There are MANY community leaders and volunteers who follow your words, of Faith and Hope……..and they find successes……..but, since these people started WAY behind the 8 ball, don’t you think it’s going to take a very long time to improve the lives of these people…………..?…I have also worked with HAbitat for Humanity, and it’s great to see these couples walk into their new homes for the first time………..and trust me, these aren’t entitlements………………I hope more people in Poverty, can rise up out of Poverry………….and I hope your words, Gregory, will see th light, for people who have, for far too long, been on the wrong side of our economic History…………

            God Bless, Gregory

            tim

          • MARC WHITE

            IT MITE BE SO {BUT}WE HAVE BOUNDRY’S AND JUST WHAT RACE IS THE HOMOSEXUALS APART OF NOT THE HUMAN RACE,YES GOD I SUPPOSE LOVES ALL BUT LET ME GET ONE THING CLEAR,IT SEEMS THAT OVER TIME IT GETS PUSHED AWAY SO PEOPLE WILL FORGET.I WIIL NOT IT TOOK MY MOM AWAY,I’M TALKING ABOUT A.I.D.S. HOMOSEXUALS HAVE SPREAD A.I.D.S. AROUND BECAUSE WELL THEY ARE UNCLEAN “WHATEVER THEY ARE”WHEN A PERSON SINS AND THEN REPENTS AND GETS ON THEIR KNEES AND ASKS “GOD” FOR PURAFICATION AND FORGIVENESS;WHAT THEY ARE ASKING FOR IS TO BE CLEANST OF ALL OF THEIR PAST FALURES AND TELLING “GOD”THAT THEY WILL NOT REPEAT THAT SINS AGAIN. BY THE WAY MY MOM WAS IN A CAR ACCIDENT AND HAD A BLOOD TRANFUSION WHERE SHE WAS INFECTED WITH THE A.I.D.S. VIRUS.SCEW ALL HOMOSEXUALS AND THEIR PROTEST TO MARRY NOT WELL I’M ALIVE,

        • gregory

          GOD BLESS YOU TIM

          Like you i am a volunteer for many organizations as well, im getting ready to leave for africa for my second year in a row to try to improve some tribal regions living conditions by building a medical clinique in the out back of kenya, i help in this mannor because ive benn blessed in many ways to do so, i met some great folks last year with the click tribe in tanzania–and my heart was broken to see these folks living in dirt–no shelter,no clothing,medicines or any of the necessaties of life, the chief was at the end of his life at 35 years old, these folks dont live past there thirtys due to the way they have to live, there governments there dont help them what so ever. i volunteer here in the u.s with folks who have nothing and have had some terrable circomstances happen to them and my heart is heavy every time, there are alot of volunteer groups throughout the u.s that healp out in almost all areas, i dont help out for any badge of honor, i help out because i feel as a christian it is my duty, i dont scoff at the christians that dont help because number one i dont know if they are helping in other ways, its not my place to ask them if they are helping or not ,thats between them and god–not for me to judge. the less fortunate here in the u.s are far better off than the folks ive come across in africa, but need the help just the same. i some times get discouraged when i here folks complain about there situation here in the u.s after going to africa. i agree with you that there are some folks here in the u.s of all races and cultures that havent gotten a fair shake at life like other americans have, but also i have seen it the other way–ive seen people take a leap of faith and pull them selves out of the hopless downward spiral and become verry well off, it was the hope and faith they imbraced that gave them the courage to do so and they will tell you that as well, i feel that anybody in this country can do it because ive seen the worst of the worst do it and they will tell you it was them keeping themselvs down not anybody else, i know that there are situations everywhere were there is matters of other people keeping other people down, but i believe anybody can pull themselves out with faith, love and hope–this i believe verry strongly. i dont believe it is up to any government to force people to pay in more money under thg geiss of charity without accountability to the tax payer, charity should be left up to the individual–after all the individual is the one who has to face god one day…

          GOODKNIGHT
          AND GOD BLESS YOU

          • tim

            God be with you on your trip to Africa, Gregory…….YOU are SO right about people who complain, and then you see what others go through every day……….

            “W” did alot, for AIDS in Africa……….many Liberal friends of mine, can’t admit that…….

            Again, have a safe trip. Gregory………….

          • gregory

            tim
            my mission in africa this year is for the orphens of aids, the medical, community center we are building is for the aids issue preasent in that area effecting the orphens…

            thanx for the kind words…
            god be with you in all aspects

          • gregory

            hey tim

            W” implemented the nothing but nets program giving mosqto nets to all children in tanzania, my guids son there recieved one as well, folks there are verry thankful for the nets as it has reduced the mosqueto born illness issues killing the children, W’ also talked some of americas most wealthy into matching W’s contribution or i should our donation along with an organized religion donation, it was a verry good thing W” did—my issue with the whole thing is that you did’nt see any report of this on any of the news outlets–except cable news outlets…

  • steve kasarski

    What our country needs is elections like they have in Arkansas where you need a runoff by the two top vote getters if no one gets over the 50% margin.

  • Lana

    Forgive me for not recalling all the facts. But there was a reason that the dont ask dont tell policy was put into place. The reason the policy was put inplace was to protect the gay soldiers from harm. There was even a movie made about a gay man in the service who buddies found out that he was gay on his personal private time and he was brutally murdered. Thats why the policy is in place.

    • http://personalliberty PFFFF

      There should not be a need to have a policy like that which allows others to murder a human being for being different. Being different doesn’t make you less capable, competent, skilled, knowledgeable, etc.

      • joel

        If you keep going to a place that wil not tolerate you for what ever reason you will sooner or later be hurt. For instance the three people captured in Iran. I believe them to be liberals looking for attention and they found it. And this one which I actually deplor to the core, a black soldier hung in the south, as decorated as Audie Murphy. And as far as Obama goes, I believe that he is the lowest bottom feeding rotten S.O.B. ever to crawl out of the windy city.

      • George E

        I don’t believe anyone, including our military, ever condoned murder of a soldier for any reason, including homosexuality. I can’t believe “don’t ask, don’t tell” was initiated to stop murders of soldiers due to their sexuality.

        • American Citizen

          There are always those who think it is their duty to rid society of “sinners”. Put your own connotation on that word.

          • George E

            I’m sure that’s true. Sad, but true.

  • s c

    Score a lame point for knee-pad toting, brown-nosing ass-smoochers who haunt this website. If diversity is important (it’s not), then pick people out of a frickin’ phone book, and hope for the best. Why waste time with confirmation hearings? Obubba might as well act like one of his heroes, Chairman Mao, and tell someone to report to the Supreme Court. Hearings take up SO MUCH TIME.
    You don’t really need someone who’s qualified, do you? Politically correct paranoia is ALWAYS better than experience (isn’t it?). What can go wrong? Install a 10 year old kid. Let’s have some REAL diversity. How about an illegal immigrant who can’t speak English? How about ET’s brother?
    Mr. Prezoid, you are wasting so much time doing it the hard way. Do what you want, slickster. Don’t let that pesky Constitution get in your way. One MUST have one’s standards, bubba.

    • Al Sieber

      Good point sc, thats whats bringing us down, diversity and multiculturism.

      • JC

        No nation has ever survived it.

      • tim

        Al,

        That comment is racist AND Absurd………
        Each ethnic group that has come to America, has assimilated, but they have also brought much of their culture to the U.S…..whether it’s Food, o Art, or Sport……….

        So don’t have such a closed mind…….there is SO much out there, Al…….

    • David

      i do wish people would quit calling him president,untill its a proven fact, after all we havent seen his birth certificate, and a village in kenya or where ever it is, has built a monument to ho him where he was supposed to have been born

      • JC

        Good point. How about the Kenyan Imposter? Will that do? :)

  • Raggs

    I’m not at all surprized by his radical choice…
    After all this will ensure his global agenda.

    Speaking of global agenda From what I’m understanding the administration now wants to control ( have power over ) the church.
    This is also unconstitutional but I’m sure it will fit in with obama’s new pick for the supreme court.

    You see… he will have to bypass the constitution and laws to thrust his agenda of Marxism…

    It looks like we are headed for a “government ran” church that will push a global governance based on the climate and social justice.

    • kate8

      Raggs, I heard that, too. Osurper is planning to put church’s under the EPA, I think it is.

      This is all spoken of in Revelation. Things are really rolling fast.

  • tim

    Remember that President Obama taught Constitutional Law……..he didn’t sit on a Ranch and collect Daddy’s $$$, like our previous President did………….so I think Obama knows a little more, than you want to admit………

    • Raggs

      Sure he does…. He knows how to avoid it and to discredit it!
      Look it up on you tube where he said that the constitution is a piece of paper and a problem because it limits the governments authority and power.

      If you expect me to believe he cares about the constitution I would have to say that you prehaps live in a dream land.

      • s c

        Raggs, Captain Cosmic Obummerbubba doesn’t know anything about constitutional law. He is a CASE law manipulator. He is a third-rate puppet who can’t get through the day without a ‘fix’ from his Chinese-made teleprompter.
        You have but to look at his mentally deficient zombies on this website who obviously get paid to spew their oral manure. He couldn’t exist without their blind support.
        Oblabber doesn’t deserve to be seen as an expert in legal matters. He’s an ambulance chaser who looks up to scummers like saul alinsky and lenin.
        If he’s so damned smart, he wouldn’t try to force his latest Supreme Court robot on us. If she’s qualified to sit on that court, then we might as well conclude that a trained chimpanzee is also qualified. I’m surprised Oloser didn’t nominate Al “me deserve to be RICH” Gore.

    • Al Sieber

      You’re right Tim, he’s using his constitutional law knowledge to bring down the country. the supreme court judges think they can interpert the constitution any which way they want, because it serves their purpose.

      • tim

        For MANY years, Al, the constitution served the purpose of the White majority…………….but not anymore………….

        • Doug

          Tiny Tim this guy is so dirty it’s not funny. Obama has the biggest ego I have ever seen bigger than slick willy another scum bag wake up.

        • Al Sieber

          So Tim, your saying we should set aside the constitution, and let these criminals get away with what ever they want? have you researched the background on the last supreme court judge, Sotomayer? did you know she’s a board member of the racist La Raza? which means the race in mexican. who’s the racist now. Obama surrounds himself only with people who will benefit him and his goals.

          • tim

            Sotomayor a racist……..WOW……..

            And just listen to yourself……WHAT President doesn’t pick a Supreme Court candidate, that looks at law the way they do………..I think, just about all of them, smart guy

          • kate8

            Oh yeah, it’s not racist to hate white people. They’re just fair game.

          • gregory

            hey tim

            i like many others saw what sotomayor did with the guys at the f.d ,she judged to give folks with the lesser grades the promotions instead of the folks who earn’d the promotions with the higher grades, there races just happened to be different , she had no problem in letting everybody know that race was the determining factors not the grades.. WHAT WOULD ANY INTELLAGENT PERSON THINK ,
            do ya think people cant see exactly what that is, i think you know as well,

            RACISIST HAVE NO RIGHT TO BE ON THE SUPREME COURT!!!

            p.s
            you can educate yourself on sotomayor by looking up her manuscripts and documents at the library of congress

          • HeresAndiej

            The Raza Unida Party (RUP) (Spanish: Partido de la Raza Unida) is a United States third political party. Its official name is Partido Nacional de La Raza Unida. It was the first third party to be formed around ethnic lines. The party was termed La Raza in reference to the Mestizo people.[1] The “La Raza Unida Party” sought better housing, job, and educational opportunities for Mexican-Americans. “Partido de la Raza Unida” literally translates as “Party of the People.” Although “raza” can be translated to “race”.

            Revolutionary Nationalist formation seeking the unity of all Chicano, Latino and Native American peoples of the Southwestern United States which is commonly referred to as Aztlan.In which they believe was stolen from them by what is now the USA. They plan on taking it back without firing a shot, but getting it back through politics.

        • HeresAndiej

          Tim you are sounding so off the wall its almost funny, if it wasn’t so preposterous!
          So now your saying the Constitution only served the White people, but since we have a Black man in the WH it now serves all the people?
          That is a definite racist way of thinking, imo.

          If Obama isn’t impeached, charged with treason or whatever very soon, the Constitution won’t benefit anyone, for it will no longer exist.
          Obama has surrounded himself with Facists, Socialists, Communists, far left Radicals including some friends that belonged to an underground Anti-American terrorist group.

          He once said that if anyone wanted to know where he stands, they should look at the people he surrounds himself with..

          Doing what he suggested points to him being an anti-America, far left radical who is in the same catagory as Hitler, Stalin or modern day dictators like Chevez and Castro.
          That should be darn scarey to every person in America.

    • George E

      Tim,

      The only thing anyone can prove that Obama actually taught in the classroom was Saul Alinsky’s political theories. It’s my understanding that he wasn’t very well admired for his scholarly achievements by the other professors that worked with him.

      • JeffH

        Ouch!..A slap like that hurts…very good George E

        • tim

          What was Bush’s intellectual backround……..???………
          Now THAt, is a slap in the Face, JeffH………….

          • George E

            Tim,

            What’s your point, that we’re not electing our best and brightest, or that Bush’s intellect and experience is somehow inferior to Obama’s? There’s probably no debate on the first question, but I wouldn’t suggest going down the second path. It won’t lead to any place of comfort for supporters of either President. Both generally think their guy is superior, regardless what the facts show.

          • JeffH

            timr, but not a slap of my face!

          • Al Sieber

            Timmy, why can’t have a simple dialog with out being a smart a$$, some of us were just trying to educate you, but your’re hopeless, are you related to Amer. Lib.?

          • timr

            Al Sieber, trust me, I need no education from you……..After all, I didn’t spell Puerto Rico…….as…….Porto rico…………

    • American Citizen

      The only use he’s making of his knowledge of the Constitution is how to subvert it.

    • kate8

      tim, which is also a joke. Constitutional Law. HA!

      It’s been proven that he is not, nor ever was, a professor, never actually even attended much college, and the only “law” he espouses is his radical, twisted, leftist distortion of it.

      • timr

        Hey Katieee…8. (is 8 actually how old you are?)……….Do you want to compare Obama’s intelligence to “W”………????

        or is Sarah Palin your hero……………

    • JC

      Right! I forgot about that…he supposedly taught Constitutional law.
      So I guess we should shut up and let him trash out Constitution…because he is the Messiah and knows what’s best for us right?
      I don’t think so!

    • Anthony

      Obama taught Constitutional Law at Chicago Law University, which “preaches” Neitzschie-ism. I recommend you go look it up before you try to taunt people with your posts. The College is famous all over the Country for that nonsense-ism. AND, guess what, Bush 2 graduated from there, as well. So, you see, there’s really no difference between the two. You can keep on trying, tho’

      • timr

        No difference, Anthony???…………have you actually watched Bush???…………..Strategery…..i think THAT was one of his words………..WW, no difference……….You are one funny S.O.B…………

        • JeffH

          timr, your ignorance abounds.
          The word “strategery” (pronounced /strəˈtiːdʒəri/ strə-TEE-jər-ee) was coined for a Saturday Night Live sketch, written by James Downey.

    • kate8

      No, all Osurper’s funding for his life and “education” came from Russia, Saudi Arabia…the CIA…

  • http://gmail i41

    Lena, we have a worthless educate moron in the white house now, just because they go in and out of academia doors, doen’t prove they have any smarts. They can read and it proves they can suck up, with an axcellent skill to get good grades. In real life they don’t know squat, I could of said jack, but Kagan only “knows” Jill. The so called eleit educated idoits, have a hell of a time making a tough decision. Omoron proves that every time a tough problem arises. All the nimwits have to ruminate on it, while things get even worse and they have not a clue. No practical experience on what happens in the real world. Marylu, we had better pay attention what is happening yesterday, all the way to three yearsa ago, when the socialist democrats got control. You like 17+% unemployment, government taking over businesses and mandating health care? I see A lib’s mama must have burped and changed, and sent him out to play. We are still waiting Lib, to tell us if and really do have a paying job , if you have one, and why you keep trying to cover the screw up, socialist, dems and their muslim trained ape as they keep destroying the USA. Hope you got a new Sarah poster to dream on after and think she is your next President dream canidate!

    • kate8

      Yeah. He received “honorary degrees” without having to do anything to earn them. In fact, they were just glad to get rid of him. Those who even remember him note only that he was “unremarkable”.

      Wonder why he’s sealed all of his so called college writings? Does he not want us to know what’s in them, or do they even exist?

      The man’s entire existence is a fraud. A figment.

    • JLC

      i41 — Don’t make the mistake of under-estimating the enemy. Our wannabe Lord and Master is not a moron. He may not be the brightest star in the sky — I have no standard by which to judge him — but he is definitely cunning. That, together with his motives, makes him a very dangerous adversary.

      • JeffH

        JLC, well said…we see examples of his cunning almost every day. We also have been watching him expose his weaknesses…his greatest strength is also his greatest enemy…his mouth!

      • Anthony

        #1 – Obama’s Harvard Education was paid for by a Saudi Prince (documented)
        #2 – Obama is a teleprompter reader who can’t debate someone unless he has a voice in his ear or something to read from first. He’s barely able to “preach from the pulpit”.
        #3 – Obama will only do what his Handlers tell him to do – in this, he is exactly like Bush.
        His Handlers? Try looking at the People is real power where WE never elect those positions —- that includes CFR, Tri-Lateral Commission, Bilderberg Group… or How about Treasury Secretary…. All made of the Utlra-Rich, something Barry Soetoro never had growing up and his Socialistic opinion is that he is OWED some of that wealth and he will do whatever to get his hands on it. That includes selling out timr and any of his brethren, along with every Conservative there is…. Bottom Line – Obama, if that’s his real name – his School records say otherwise… is our latest POTUS made sure that every Position in Government where real decisions will affect all of us, were filled with Wall Street cronies.. and no real persons of Industry – this was done on purpose…. and posters like American Liberal, timr, and others… all fail to address this Money Elite approach, as if they’ll end up getting a slice of that pie…. Tell ya what – YOU LET US KNOW HOW BIG THE PAYDAY IS… (I doubt we’ll hear a pin drop).

        • timr

          Anthony…….Obama’s education paid for by the Saudi Prince???……………Do you have ANY idea, the long standing friendship of the Saudi Prince, and the Bush Oil conglomerate and Family????????????Read…”House of Bush, House of Saud”

      • JeffH

        Anthony…thought you might enjoy this read…
        Dr. Khalid al-Mansour, Black Panthers
        Obama Had Close Ties to Top Saudi Adviser at Early Age
        By Online Thursday, September 4, 2008
        New evidence has emerged that Democratic presidential candidateBarack Obama was closely associated as early as age 25 to a key adviser to a Saudi billionaire who had mentored the founding members of the Black Panthers.

        http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/4821

        • kate8

          Anthony, JeffH, you are both a wealth of information!

          Keep it coming!

  • HeadOutOfSandintoHell

    My take on Kagan is far from neutral. Even though there have been Judges in the past that didn’t have “judge time” they were at least in the legal system as lawyers. Does anyone remember that old saying “Those that can, work. Those that can’t, teach.” She may be a great researcher, but that does not qualify her to make law altering legal findings. I have no bias as to her gender, race, or sexual preference. But it’s not mine or anybody else’s call. POTUS gets to nominate Judges and it’s up to the congressional body to crucify them under questioning and make an informed choice as to yeaing or naying.
    With all the Whitehouse media blackout I can’t say that I’d stand on her just getting in. When the people at the top start being so secretive their is obviously something they want to hide. I say go dig people and find the real dirt and then get it to your representatives. We still have our voice, in print and in language. Let them know we demand to be heard. *side note* While I’m not a practicing “christian”, I will say that this coutry was founded on Christian values. If you don’t believe that then maybe it’s time to compare the 10 commandments to the basic laws of this country. Most of them are there in one form or another. AmLib don’t knock it just because you don’t believe in it. It’s just an opinion on my part. Everyone has the right to believe what they want. You could take blinders of a dead mule but it ain’t going to get anywhere.

    • Anthony

      HeadOutOfSandintoHell -
      I would expect our politicians in Office to alrady have the knowledge you speak of. They are just marching to orders given to them, by the real People in charge – those who control the Dollar! Right now, very few of those in Office are of the Ron Paul sect. Oh, if Ron Paul gets his way, a handful may try and switch teams, but it would have to be a measure that would last, first.

      Look at it this way – they have our tax money to spend any illegal way they want. The Watergate Hotel was a true testiment to that fact. If they want to protect their backsides, they already know what’s really going on here.

  • http://charter howe

    MS Kagan is an Obama lemming. She does not have the experience with judicial participation to understand the difference bewteen social justice and equal justice for all. These are not always the same thing and you cannot abide by the constitutional law of the land unless your rulings as a Supreme Court Justice are strictly by the rule of law. The importance of checks and balances between all three branches of govt is the engine that keeps and strengthens our constitutional freedoms as our founders originally framed the constitution. Kagan committed a cardinal sin, by barring military recruiters from the campus when she was the Dean of Harvard, which was eventually struck down by the supreme court in a unanimos decision. Kagan is a hardcore hateful poliitician who understands only the agenda germaine to her life style. She could be the wrecking ball that undermines every facet of American life with a radical vote and I believe, the position is too important to expect Kagan will all of a sudden become a Justice for all people and a champion of Constitutional law. Kagan is a liberal democrat with a hidden loyalty to Obama and his merry band of corrupt politicians, I think its totally unacceptable for allowing Kagan to join the Supreme Court. It’s like loading one bullet into a handgun and playing russian roulette to find out if the hammer falls on the empty cylinder or winds up blowing your brains out. From what I have reviewed about Kagan, she is a very bad selection for Justice. Senator Cornyn has plenty of non-partisan documentation to verify Kagan’s background therefore I suggest you acquire the information and review it yourself and to hell with this notion that you trust Obama, because if Obama had Pinnochio’s genes his nose would be growing considerably on a daily basis.

    • American Citizen

      Right on, someone who calls our government a “Constitutional Democracy” has no business on the Supreme Court. We are a “Constitutional Republic” and that is a huge difference.

      • Anthony

        Hands down, one of the best return comments yet.

        Democracy, in essence, means MOB RULE
        And, our founding fathers knew this….
        THAT’s why they shot down Hamilton’s bid in the 1st Constitutional Convention.
        Hamilton wanted a Democracy – because he knew it was the easiest to corrupt beyond redemption. It always has been the one avenue the quickest to defeat a people.

        A Republic, however, has taken then almost 100 years to setup for the kill. And, all of it thru the 3rd US Central Bank – THE FEDERAL RESERVE and its Fractional Banking System, which now has almost every Country on the Planet in bankruptcy. Try googling how many Countries DON’T HAVE a Central Bank and what kind of trouble do you see them having with the good ol’ USA and the IMF & World Bank..? It quickly starts to make sense, with all the false flags, etc., many of us have seen in our lifetimes.

  • Americal liberal

    Headinsand…. The problem is there are 100′s of religions….which 1 is ok with you?… Would you be Ok with Allah?… Buddah…. How about a satanist?.. My personal belief is something you disregard… But you take offense when o disregard religion as a whole…. Religion has been used to condone some very evil deeds by some very evil people… My belief is it’s more evil than good…. You conservatives use religion as a weapon and you use it to divide… I’m for your religious freedom and I’m for my own freedom from your religion..in other words… I don’t care what YOU believe… It’s just not what I believe and what a lot of other people believe

    • Raggs

      Jesus is the only way to salvation… All others of a different religion will NOT see heaven!

      Obama is not our salvation nor is the corrupt elitist.

      • Robin from Arcadia, IN

        Raggs… You are correct! It is up to Christians to inform the world and then it is up to the world to decide if they accept or reject Jesus.
        Even those who reject Him will eventually come to the day that they will bow and they will confess that He is Lord! Fact!

      • tim

        RAGGS, Robin…….Now THAT is Religious Hubris and arrogance……..I feel sorry for your interpretaion of what Jesus meant to his people…….

      • American Citizen

        Jesus said, “According to how you judge, so will you be judged.” We must not interfere in God’s judgements. We can interfere as to how people obey the laws of man, nothing else. We can tell them about Jesus, but cannot make them believe. Faith is a gift to be accepted or rejected.

    • tim

      American liberal is exactly right………..The religious right are just as fanatical in pushing THEIR beliefs, as otherfanatical religions………..

      • JeffH

        …is Marxism a religion? I see a few that certainly are worshiping a Marxist! I guess that satanism would be considered a relion by some.

      • http://personalliberty.com dave

        IF YOU REALLY BELIEVE THAT NONSENSE YOU ARE CERTIFIED INSANE!FUNNY HOW CHRISTIANS SAY YOU ARE FREE TO BELIEVE WHAT YOU WANT…AND MUSLIMS WILL KILL YOU IF YOU ARE NOT ONE OF THEM, ESPECIALLY IF YOU ARE A JEW(EXTRA POINTS!)…JUST FOR 72 VIRGINS. WHAT A BUNCH OF DERANGED FOOLS. YOU ARE ONE OF THEM.

        • tim

          Good one Dave…….”deranged”……

          I never said one was worse than the other………they ALL have checkered pasts……..There ARE sects of certain Christian groups that are very fanatical………Wisconsin Synad Lutherans are VERY strict and dictatorial……….We all now the Crime of the Century with the Catholic priests………THEY used the power and influence of their religious positions to RAPE kids, and worst of all……STILL, to this day, cover it up……..

          My point is, each Religion has fanatics, and you can say the Islamic fanatics are more dangerous, but, you won’t convince the catholic boys of that fact………..

          America, Dave is NOT…….NOT a Theocracy, and our history has lead us AWAY from that, while still allowing our Religious Freedom…………

    • Al Sieber

      I don’t believe in organized religion, I believe in the teachings of Jesus Christ, whats wrong with that?

      • tim

        Al, there’s nothing wrong with that, at all……….I respect you for that, as you have a personal relationship with Jesus Christ……..

    • gregory

      HEY AM LIB

      WHAT NEWS OUTLET DO YOU TRUST IN TO GIVE GOOD INVESTIGATIVE JOURNALISM AND IMFORMATION?
      WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT COMMIE OBAMIES IMFO BEING SOLD BY THE TAZANIAN GOV–TO THAT RICH GERMAN GROUP?
      AND HOW ABOUT THOSE ELECTIONS YESTERDAY?
      SAD DAY FOR THE MARXIST!!
      GET USED TO IT—MORE TO COME

      Taxed–Enough–Already!!

  • Kurier Radek

    Freedom…America’s legacy built on CHRISTIAN MORALITY. Capitulating to the secular, socio-economic and environmental justice ideology IS the cancer eating away at our RULE OF LAW…the Constitution. True patriots understand all our liberties are at risk and being marginalized daily by the totalitarian BEAST of statism, elitism, progressivism, liberalism, leftist-radical Marxism hellbent on the destruction of our way of life….Free Market Capitalism. The warrior base is growing in defense of capitalism and freedom. The revolution has already begun…which side will you be on?

    Stand up for America’s foundational, absolute truths!

    • tim

      Socio-economic Justice is immoral????????
      WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!……..keep the downtrotten DOWN……..THAT is your philosophy????

      • Doug

        Right on Tim keep people like you down. You want something go work for it just like most normal people do! My cats have more common sense then you do!

        • tim

          It’s sad, Dave,,,,,because you are both selfish and heartless…….Maybe my friend Kate8 can give some lift, with her advice…….

      • JeffH

        You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity.

      • http://personalliberty.com dave

        TOO MANY PEOPLE, LIKE YOU, BELIEVE EQUALLITY IS THE OUTCOME, RATHER THAN THE BEGINNING. SO, JUST SIT ON YOUR LAZY ASS AND BELIEVE YOU DESERVE EXACTLY WHAT ALL THE HARD WORKING, TAX PAYING PEOPLE HAVE, FOR ZERO OUTPUT, AND YOU HAVE…OBAMA!

    • Chaos Factor

      Kurier… The real founders of this country were the American Indians that had their own version of religion and the good Christians you talk about decided the Indians were better off dead…. So they set out to murder them all ( in the name of Jesus) and steal their land and the ones they didn’t kill they put on reservations and supplied booze so they could slowly kill them…. And now we’ve given the American Indians a few casinos… To make it all better….all in the name of Jesus… Of course..

      • tim

        Hey ChaosFactor……..they tend to forget THAT part of our Religious History……………

      • tim

        Better yet……explain Christian Morality to the thousands of kids who were RAPED by Catholic Priests………not to mention the “moral” cover-up………to this day………….

        • libertytrain

          Let’s not forget the teacher of my kids back in Grafton, at the public school who did the same – another cover-up — sure he was not renewed but and was able to go on to some other school to do the same to more little boys.

          • American Citizen

            That is happening more often than priests molesting children. Some of the accusations there have been found to be untrue, the accusers are after money.

          • timr

            Hey libertytrain, my Bro lives in nearby Cedarburg, so I heard of stuff in Grafton…………Look at American Citizen……….still sweeping the problem under the rug, just like the Church did and keeps on doing…………The Crime of the Century, and we still have deniers………….Unbelievable!!!

          • libertytrain

            Sorry, I have to agree with American Citizen on that one. There’s often times a story in the news regarding some sexually abusive teacher or minister or minister’s assistant – and I’m not talking Catholic. I’m not denying there were bad priests, but, few compared to the numbers of priests in the world and those things weren’t talked about in the past days before CNN and FOX and everybody else making a story about everything. You’d didn’t hear about incest either or wife beating — Now you do, and it’s good that it’s out in the open but we can’t go back and fix the past, only keep an eye on the present and the future.

        • JLC

          tim — or whoever you are — Ordinarily, I would ignore you, but I cannot, in good conscience, let this go by. As a young boy, in common with innumerable other young Catholic boys, I served as an altar boy. I was also almost sinfully proud of having been chosen. I was NEVER molested, in any way, by a priest, and I do not know, nor have I ever met, any other former altar boys who were. More deponent sayeth not!!!!

        • http://personalliberty.com dave

          AMAZING HOW YOU HEAR THESE PRIESTS WERE “CATHOLIC” AND COMPLETELY LEFT OUT, ON PURPOSE, TO BE POLITICALLY CORRECT, IS THEY ARE HOMOSEXUALS AND PERVERTS WHO USED THE PRIESTHOOD TO GET CLOSE TO THESE CUTE LITTLE ALTER BOYS!!! YEAH, LETS HAVE THEM IN THE MILITARY TOO!!! LETS ALSO HAVE GROWN MEN AS GIRL SCOUT LEADERS! LIBERALISM IS INDEED A MENTAL DISORDER!!!

          • libertytrain

            exactly – they were always pedophiles, any place you can get near kids, ie. Boy Scouts Girl Scouts – teachers at the public schools, etc. You’re going to find a pedophile, now and then, lingering in the dark.

      • Doug

        Hey Chaos maybe you better look at world history you will see everyone took something from someone! Why don’t you tell me why the Africans to this day are still selling their own people to slavery and why the Middleeasterns are still doing it to this day along with Asians? The only chaos you have going on is between your ears are you hearing voices that say maybe you should just be quiet!

      • Vicki

        Some people claiming to be Christians have done evil things like murder. This is a reflection on the individual not the religion. Some people claiming to be Muslims have done evil things like murder. This is a reflection on the individual not the religion.

        This constant condemnation of a religion based on the obviously evil actions of a few is just the sort of behavior that a “satan” type entity would love. Keep us divided so that we fail to notice and stand up against evil.

        For those of us who are students of Christ, Jesus provided a VERY simple guidepost.

        “Mat 7:16 Ye shall know them by their fruits”.

        It is that easy. Now the easier part is knowing Good from Evil.

        Your creator (you choose the name) gave you free will. Your creator gave you life, liberty and the opportunity to pursue happiness.

        Upon this rock each and every one of you can ascertain which are the false prophets and be able to identify good vs evil.

      • http://personalliberty.com dave

        SCUSE ME. EVER HEARD OF AFRICA? MOST OF THAT GOD-FORSAKEN COUNTRY IS THE SAME AS IT WAS A THOUSAND YEARS AGO, AND AMERICA LEFT TO THE INDIANS WOULD BE THE SAME WAY. THEY WERE NOT WHIMPS, THEY WERE EXPERT KILLERS AS THEY HAD TRIBAL WARS FOREVER. ANYONE WHO CUTS OFF THE SCALP OF ANOTHER HUMAN BEING HAS TO BE A LITTLE OFF, BUT HEY, IT IS WHAT IT IS. EVERY COUNTRY WAS CONQUERED BY SOMEBODY OR SOMEONE. LOOK AT YOUR LEFTY PALS, LENIN, STALIN, MAO, CHE, CASTRO…OVER ONE HUNDRED MILLION PEOPLE KILLED UNDRE THESE NUTJOBS, JUST FOR CONTROL AND POWER. HEY, THANKS FOR THE POPULATION CONTROL! WE HAVE ANOTHER TYPE OF POPULATION CONTROL COMING SOON…OBAMACARE..LET THE OLD ONES DIE!!! AINT GOT THE MONEY, THE TIME NOR THE INCLINATION TO SAVE THEM.

    • tim

      Hey Kurier…….Explain the Christian morality to the American Indians……….GO AHEAD……….

      • gregory

        hey tim
        my past relatives forgave the so call’d white man for the wrongs they impossed on us, unlike alot of other cultures they were more focussed in the words of jesus, like forgive, love, faith , hope.. the only way to the father is through him—jesus,, forgivness just may be devine…. as far as the disgusting pervs that rape and grope and get away with it–they will be judged by the one and only father on judgement day. hate is not the way to winn the blessings of the father.. if you think about it faith is really all we have for wrighting the wrongs, man is just a sand grain in time. theres alot of people that live in a tiny little circle–they remain there because they were molded to be there and serve a purpose to the corrupt mortal, they were train,d this way through many of corrupt mans devices such as the public school systems,television, race baiters spreading hate and pitting one man against another, its only if they gain enough faith to leap out of this tiny little circle and not look back will they see the difference between what the evil pimp masters want you to believe and what the truth of jesus is, most people ive known that have put there trained slavery life behind them and discovered how false the world that they have been living in–have stayed away from that tiny little circle for good, they say that once man made blinders were removed they could see the real truth–the veil lifted so to speak..
        tim put every thing you think as a trained slave to the pimp masters behind you and just put one foot outside that tiny little circle–you will feel the difference instantly, then take that big leap and dont look back, you will be amazed at what awaits you…
        faith-love-hope-truth -will set you free, hate will just keep you in that tiny little circle..

        the american indian will survive

        • libertytrain

          you had some really good points – and I have to agree with you on most if not all.

          • gregory

            hey libertytrain
            thanx for the kind words, i think tim has a good chance to take that leap out of that tiny little circle and feel the love god put in all of us. if we dont fight against the devil-we will always be his slave,if we take that leap out of the tiny little circle we gain freedom forever, i feel a little bad for tim because the veil has cover’d his eyes and heart,many times it is said in the book that man will fall.. he can always leap back out of that circle and be forgiven, man was given free will as a test, its up to him to love…

          • libertytrain

            you’re more than welcome.

        • tim

          Gregory,

          There ARE some racebaiters out there, but there are also brave people everyday, who fight for equal rights…….and if you think it is completely equal out there, then you have never lived on the other side…….

          I appreciate your words, and I will take heed, for most of them, Gregory……….

          God Bless

          • gregory

            hey tim

            like you i have lived on the other side of the tracks, seen alot of bad things, and pull’d myself out of that situation, being american indian–i have felt the sting of racisism and have fought against it, i finally educated my self and got closer to god–that was my saving grace…

  • airangel

    1st. It sickens me we have gone 24 years since Reagan granted the first Amnesty of 1.8 million Illegals and since then no party has done anything about the Illegal Immigration problem and I mean NOT Republican and NOT Democrat. Because of that lack of leadership it has evolved into a nightmare and is creating an impoverished society

    2nd. I don’t believe Kagan is the best qualified for the position based on court experience and I don’t believe she will be able to make decisions based on the Constitution vs. based on her own bias from her past track record of breaking the law. I do believe this appointment by Obama is a “conflict of interest” based on her relationship with Obama and many current members in the house from Harvard…this is a bunch of “law makers” and from that perspective we need diversity!! This is another American case of hiring a minority over the “best and most qualified man/woman for the job” or person with most tenor with a proven track record.

    3rd. I don’t believe in gays in the military or at least on the front line battle zones. I also don’t believe women should be there either for the sole reason of our military already having their hands tied in red tape by this Administrations “rules of engagement” They can not be thinking about protecting a female (yes women are tough and can compete in many areas the same as a man except here). It is mans God given nature to want to protect the opposite sex. Same for Gays, there will be a lack of trust there and a battlefield is one HOT area there has to be UNITY and complete trust or lives are lost period!

  • Marilyn

    What the hell are they teaching at Harvard? What is being taught at all universities and colleges? Just because someone has Harvard or Yale or any of the prestigious schools behind their name does not mean they are well educated. Book learning, lectures are one thing but good old common sense seems to be lacking.

    • Larry Stanley

      Of all that has been said in this post, religion, gays, race, immigration, education ……. you Marilyn hit the nail square on the head. None of it means squat unless you have enough common sense and integrity to be useful, I know many educated derelicts.

    • JeffH

      Marilyn, the best comment of the day.

  • Chaos Factor

    Face it…. President Obama could nominate ” Jesus” to the court abd you rightys would find plenty to hate about him…. It’s just rightwing nature to be hateful…of course as long as it’s hate by Christians directed towards people diffrent from you…

    • airangel

      I personally think all the name calling on these posts lack class and integrity…Actions speak louder than words and so far I am not impressed with what’s happening in this country. I have seen McCain bashed as much as Obama so it’s not race but utter lack of respect. I do not like McCains track record but he did serve this country if nothing else and was a prisoner of War which is not something easy to endure and leaves scars, he has lost his way like many once you get into politics (it seems to corrupt the best which is why there should be term limits). I also don’t like what our President is doing to the United States of America from National Security, to job creation and manufacturing in the USA (in the private sector, not Government sector) to biased Media reporting and to penalizing or arresting hard working Americans that don’t qualify for “free” Healthcare but can barely make now and are struggling just to get by but will still be forced to buy something against their will, that my friend is not constitutional to force anyone against their will and without their consent

    • Robin from Arcadia, IN

      Chaos Factor.. YOU have serious issues. Wouldn’t you be more comfortable on a left wing blog?

    • Doug

      The problem Chaos is he is not one of sane mind and love of America to make the decision he has no common sense and no idea of what real America is like! Everywhere he has been he has been indoctrinated with crappy ideas that have been proven over and over through history that they don’t work!

    • JC

      Alinsky tactic. Instigate hatred and racism at every opportunity then blame the other side for it. What a load of crap these socialist’s sling.

  • Chaos Factor

    Airangel… President Obamas been in for 18 months… Would it be to much to ask to see what he’s gonna do about immigration… He has had a full plate to deal with..

    • airangel

      Chaos, I hope he does do something since it was one of his campaign promises to tackle immigration and in my opinion, it should have come before the Healthcare bill since much of the funds is going to support the Illegals in medical aid..I am not against Human rights and basic medical care for them but they do not have civilian rights as they are not citizens…schools and hospitals have already been closed down because they are over burdened with the influx along the Southern borders…this should have been the priority for every past president. You can’t force people to get healthcare until you get them jobs and improve the economy, but I will give him the benefit of the doubt as he is meeting with the Mexican president this week so we’ll see what happens…I’m always hopeful, just becoming less optimistic of late

    • jbird

      And it’s really tough to get anything done when you spend 75% of your time speechifying behind a teleprompter, 10% of your time bowing and scraping before foreigners and 10% of your time apologizing for perceived past injustices. That only leaves 5% to work.

      • JeffH

        The 5% is smoke time or cheeseburger and tater tot time. Gotta keep up the strength and eat ’cause all that lyin’ and organizin’ is a full time tough job.

  • Chaos Factor

    Raggs… You just made my point as to why religion should be kept out of government… Thanks… That’s a very evil and dangerous point of view you have…at the least it’s just a Christian scare tactic

    • Raggs

      Funny you shoud say that…

      Freedom of religion was not intended to keep the church out of the government but to keep the government out of the church.

      Now as the Marxist will have it… The government will control the church…

      • tim

        RAGGS…….your statements are ridiculous………..The Founders wanted Religion OUT OF GONVERNMENT………….

        • JC

          Which is why they plastered “In God We Trust” all over the money and the court houses.

          • tim

            In God We Trust………..not…….In Religion, we trust…………….
            I’ve said on this Blog, that I’ve never had a problem with those words on a dollar bill, or in a Public Square…….I just don’t like to be told, WHAT to believe in………

            fair enough???

  • Patriot

    Based on the Presidents State of the Union address, I thought JOBS & the ECONOMY were the number 1 priority! How come all that has been done so far is everything else? HealthCare, Immigration, Freedom of the press ACT (which happened this week with no questions from the press, curious), etc. When are we going to realize that everything he says and his actions are the complete opposite of his intentions? When are “We the People” going to hold these people accountable and when does prison time for all his deception, lies and down right corruption happen? To all you Progressives, Liberals & Democrats out there this is not about incumbents, it is about right from wrong and saying what you mean and doing what you say. We are sick of this double speak from both sides!

    • Raggs

      Freedom of the press act?… Just another Marxist takeover to limit the dissent.. What is it called now instead of net neutrality?

    • Chaos Factor

      Patriot… President Obamahas been in office18 months…. He’s had more to deal with than any president of my lifetime…..this country was losing 700,000 jobs a month when Bush left office…. President Obama has at least stopped the job bleeding…. We added 290,000 jobs last month…. Google it… Don’t take my word for it… Which I know you won’t anyway …. Then check the Dow jones numbers the day Bush left office and compare them to today’s numbers…. This president has done a great job…concidering the mess he stepped into he should be getting praise from you rightwingers…you really need to do yourself a favor and turnoff Fox news…

      • JeffH

        excuses excuses excuses…always an excuse…

        • kate8

          JeffH, how do we let ourselves get sucked in to responding to these liberal rants?

          If we just start ignoring them for real, they just might get tired. I don’t know about anyone else, but Bob is right. After awhile it just gets annoying and abrasive.

          • JeffH

            kate8, you tell me and then we’ll both know. It’s called “emotion” and no one thinks clearly with their emotions! The lefties use it as a tool. Others will never figure it out, they are the ones that will always follow.

      • American Citizen

        When will you people learn the president can do nothing but create government jobs. All the rest is due to the private sector despite the hurdles the Feds put in their way.

      • Doug

        All these are all government jobs who do you think are paying for those? You want google something look up how many govt jobs there are in union states compared to non union states compared to manufacturing!

      • Anthony

        Please deliver us a diatribe on this – http://www.whoownsthenews.com

    • tim

      Healthcare was his #1 priority……….you were too busy looking at Sarah Palin’s skirt during the campaign, to be paying attention……..

      • Doug

        Health Care Tiny Tim right on Timmy are you going to pay for this? Hey Timmy do you have a job?

        • timr

          Yes I do, Doug……….you PUNK…………why don’t you come to the south side of Chicago and visit us?……..Your bumpkin hide wouldn’t last 5 minutes…………….

          • libertytrain

            Now, Now. Calm down. Go have a nice Tiramisu Custard – it’s the flavor of the day today and one of my favorites – at Kopps – do it for me since I can’t.

          • JeffH

            timr gotta temper? PUNK? Wow, tough guy huh? NOT! South side of Chicago…Obama land? Get a job and get a real life! Who’s making your rent payment for you? The taxpayers cause it’s free now?

          • tim

            libertytrain, Kopps is still there is still great……….

            JeffH, I own my own home…………and I’m a Martial Arts instructor and i work with inner city kids………..Thanks for asking………..

          • gregory

            hey tim

            i lived on the south side of chicago for a couple of years and never once had any drug dealing gangs or crooks, pimps, or scabs on society ever give me one bit of trouble! i would look these kind of missfits in the eyes and just smile, i dont get bullied to easy, i even would jog at knight waiting for any thug to try his luck at taking me down.
            i think maybe they might of thought i was a little crazy–but all along it was that i had jesus on my shoulder, its amazing how faith outshines the devil…

            THE AMERICAN INDIAN WILL SURVIVE

          • JeffH

            gregory…isn’t it amazing that even the predators have senses that can seperate the weak from the strong. You obviously displayed no weaknesses, only strength, thus youwere left alone.
            I have great admiration for the American Indian.

          • gregory

            HEY JEFFH

            THANKS FOR THE WORDS OF KINNDNESS
            my parents and grandparents and community gave us the tools through faith ,hope and love to beable to defeat any evil forces, i thank you for giving the american indian your best wishes, alot of us have never ask’d for a single thing from the votemasters and would rather starve to death in dgnty than take something from the goons that had stollen it from some one else, maybe thats the difference, heaven cant be bought, work hard, do good and dont fall into the devils trap of racebaiting, that road turns verry hot one day, no one should ever be afraid of the thugs in south chicago or in any other city for that matter, if they do indeed take you down–its OK, it just means your mission is up in this world and its time to go home, one motion turns another.

          • tim

            Gregory, I’m glad you stood up, or played it smart, and weren’t complacent, while you were jogging…………..In addition to teaching Martial Arts, I also taught Women self-defense, and public awareness as to not be complacent…..while out at night…….

            I bet you weren’t yelling….—– Muslim”….while you were jogging………….

            I too, respect the American Indian……the TRUE Americans………

          • gregory

            thanx tim

            we are all just flesh and bone with a tiny pilot light…

      • JeffH

        The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else.

      • JC

        You’re almost right for once “Tim the Racist”, but what you should have said is “Government CONTROL of our health care was his #1 priority” You know, just like the old USSR.

        • tim

          JC, I will just say, that until you almost face financial disaster because of Healthcare bills, then maybe you would see this subject differently……..I’ve been there, and it’s not pretty, and alot of americans are hurting because of this Healthcare system…….

          you notice, I’m not getting angry……..

          And I hope you don’t have a sick child, like I did, and have to go through that……..That’s all Im saying, J.C.

      • gregory

        hey tim

        she does have a nice skirt you re right about that, much softer on the eyes than the goolish pant suits and man like features the others showcase, were is it writen into law that to be selected to be a female ploitician–you must have a man like appearance?

        just an observation from a man that likes women!!

        Taxed-Enough–Already

        • tim

          Great observation, Gregory……we actually agree on something…….

    • MARC WHITE

      I 2ND THAT NOTION.

  • http://gmail i41

    Bush may have been out on his ranch, doing more than the muslim has ever done, pounding a bashetball, and knocking his balls around. Bush cleaned up under growth, cut down fuel to increase firedanger, Oh, I forgot, liberals don’t touch nature, they might get a snake bite or hurt themselves. Lib, Allah one of the 360 statues that early muslims worshipped. Allah was the moon god, Islam isn’t a religion but a idealogy. There is not a peaceful muslim beleif, the first half of the Koran was dreamed up by Mohamed, who was trying to form a new religion using all the different peices of other religions in Mecca. When he tried for 10-12 years to get a following, and only had less than a hundred, he moved to Medina, wehich was like a early day San Fransico, anything goes.Full of liberals,When he got a few thousand nut jobs followed behind him, Mohamad realized fear and intimadation worked better, either convert or die. when cities had at the best 3=4 thousand people, you just overwhelmed them, end of story. Islam means to submit, muslim means you have submitted. Mohamed never had any apostles or any forrunners mentioning his arrival. He just spouted goofy crap, like when waking up, blow your nose, duh. His rants were alway after something happened, and controls every thing in you life, personal religious, business dealings. No where in the Bible, do you find the saying it is OK to lie to a non beleiver or a non Christan as it does in the Koran. You cannot be a muslim unless you have abrogatted the first half of the Koran. You can ask Calipso Louie Farakan, if you think I’m blowing smoke, or your muslim idol Onumnut. Onumnut is following the Korans outline to gain control of the USA. I know scialist democrats will have a fuzz up in the mental area, but check the Koran and ask the pedophile followers, since all democrats are perverted, just don’t ask or tell, marrying a baby girl is OK with muslims. No, I’m not OK with a stone aged figure of a moon god, why do you think all muslim countries have a moon and a star on them? Still have doubts about Onumnuts and his radical freeky bunch he hang out with?

    • American Citizen

      When the President leaves to White House to go on vacation, he takes the office with him as do a lot of private citizens. He is always in touch with what is going on, never having a “real vacation”. That’s why they age so fast.

  • Another Voice

    What are you cons really afraid of, anyway? Are you trying to block everything this administration is doing because you think that some of this stuff just might work and that the American people might be happy with it? Ms. Kagan seems to be quite dedicated to constitutional law, which is the kind of person we need on the Supreme Court. You guys are always screaming that we need to get back to the Constitution, but when an Obama nominates people who intend to do just that, you freak out.

    • JeffH

      Yes, everything this administration does needs to be blocked, everything. I, and I thing a few million more, am not quite ready to cave into this Marxist/socialist/communist and his handlers takedown of America. I’m just not comfortable with the idea of having a one world governmnt!

      • tim

        JeffH…….aren’t you a bit paranoid??………….One world Government????……..it was Clinton and YOUR party who pushed through NAFTA………Congrats!!!

        • American Citizen

          With the help of the Democrats in Congress!

        • Doug

          Now Timmy is and expert on Trade. Okay Timmy can you tell me what APTA was?

        • JeffH

          timr, obviously you’ve been “left behind”. Tell me, just what is my party? After that you can head back to the trough.

    • Anthony

      Another Voice -
      Please point out for us those items that Bush implemented [ex: Patriot Act I & II ] and where Obama is reversing any of it.

      Your con-talk, just outed you as UN-informed.

  • William Lord

    Regarding the assertion of the Supreme Court as “a once non-partison institution” I wonder when that was. Was it when republican presidents nominated all five of current conservative catholic judges?

    • denniso

      The rightwing is desperate and coming up w/ clearly absurd arguments on all issues because they have been losing ground in the country and political arena. They don’t give a hoot about anything except regaining power and ensuring that their cherished ‘conservative’ principals don’t crumble and fade.
      Now we’re watching them become even more unhinged by their infighting
      and shrinking of their party tent, brought on partly by the so called ‘tea party’….

      • JeffH

        WHAT-EVER

        Schoen: Strong ‘Anti-Obama Vote’ in Results
        Democratic pollster Doug Schoen told Fox News Tuesday night that election results are showing a strong “anti-Washington” and “anti-Obama” vote.

        With news that Obama-backed Arlen Specter was defeated and tea party favorite Rand Paul won, Schoen suggested that establishment candidates will be under fire this November.

        http://www.newsmax.com/InsideCover/schoen-obama-paul-specter/2010/05/18/id/359434?s=al&promo_code=9E85-1

        He said that the tea party’s power “can’t be underestimated” and that Paul’s election shows the level of anger among grass-roots Republicans
        to the party’s leadership in Washington.

        Still, he said the GOP should benefit this November because the Democrats control Congress and the White House.

        Schoen said if the Democrats don’t move quickly to the center, they are “going to pay a

        • airangel

          JeffH…isn’t Rand Paul, Ron Paul’s son?

          • libertytrain

            I know you asked Jeff, but yes, he is.

        • American Citizen

          It isn’t only Republicans, a lot of Democrats are waking up, too, to what the Obama agenda really is.

      • timr

        Dennisso, the Right wing are trying to find themselves……..They had to put up an old guy like McCain, and the Democrats have a fresh, young bright candidate……….

        Who will they’re nominee be in 2012???

        Palin??………yeah right. most real conservatives run for the hills at the very mention of her name….

        Romney??……They won’t nominate him………he’s Mormon……

        Jindall?……Did you see his rebuttle after the State of the Union???…YIKES

        • gregory

          hey tim

          did you see the election results from yesterday?
          wow–better than i expected!
          just the beginning..
          Taxed–Enough–Alreardy!!

      • JC

        Desperate? Are you kidding? Even your socialist icon Michael Moore is saying “The Democrats are in for an ass-whooping of biblical proportions”. Desperate? I don’t think so…

        • denniso

          What the rightwing fails to understand is that unlike them we don’t uniformly worship certain people…Michael Moore is interesting and has some good and smart things to say, but an icon? No…you people can’t understand it because you all bow at the altar of Limbaugh,Beck,Hannity,Savage,O’Reilly. We people fighting to keep the country from being returned to the dark ages by the arch conservatives, are much more diverse than they are. We have ethnic minorities,women,gays,rich and poor…we can disagree among ourselves
          on any number of issues,but all agree on general progressive/liberal
          principles.

  • http://gmail i41

    choas factor, the indians were not the founders of North America, they were sacangers taking over other tribes and either intergrate or die. That is where liberals went wrong and still do, on the multilanguages and multicultures b–l s–t. The kennebec man beat their sorry asses here first, the indians claim his as one of theirs, problem one, he didn’t have the right skull shape and coloring, two, the indians buried him under tons of concrete, just like dems. didn’t want facts known, Do you ever read anything besides coloring books or watch the history channel, there was people coming over from the east and the west on ice and land bridges. Omron has had 18 months total control,with total control of his Congress, he should lay off the running around apologing for the USA and alway knocking America. Another puss gutted State department offical went to the UN and brought up the Az issue, where the hell was battle axe Hillary, absonding her duties, the Posner really was a gem, should have his nech stretched for teason, he has always been a radical nut job with freeky ideals and beleifs. Just the model socialist democrats make their heros.

    • tim

      i41……..Your’e the uninformed one…………..It was quite simple……….Imagine if you got a knock on your Door, and the person at the door, points a gun to your head and says to you……………..”You can’t live hear anymore”……..???…and then rapes the women in your house, and kill the men…….and take over your land………..

      YES……THAT is what happened to the American Indians AND to the Palestinian people in 1948………….

      • American Citizen

        Sounds like what the African tribes do to one another. There is nothing new under the sun.

        • libertytrain

          You are correct – still going on today – and while we’re at it we must never forget what happened under Hitler to the Jews, Catholics and Gypsies. Man’s inhumanity to man has always been a part of the world and rather than talk about what we did to whomever, why isn’t how do we stop it today.

      • gregory

        HEY TIM

        wasn’t it the united nations that gave the jewish people there land back?

        Send your complaints to the united nations–since they will soon be your master as well as commie obamies…

        american indians will survive, how about you
        P.S did you notice that i didnt say native americans?
        I DONT FEEL THE NEED TO FEEL IMPORTANT– AS MANY OTHER CULTURES SEEM TO FEEL ELEVATED DUE TO A SPECIAL NAME, AMERICAN IS GOOD ENOUGH FOR ME…

    • JLC

      i41 — Question: What is a “sacanger?” My father was an American Indian, and I would like to know just what his half of my ancestry is. Elucidate.

      • JeffH

        JLC, I think he meant “scavenger”.

        • JLC

          JeffH — Thank you. You are probably correct. I keep dictionaries of both English and Spanish on my desk and could not find anything resembling it in either one, so I had to ask. I run into words in both languages that I do not recognize, from time to time. My apology for bringing it up.

          • JeffH

            JLC, never a problem and always glad to help anyone.

  • http://ce Frederick H

    Ah, tell me about America in the 21st century! A country chock full of right-wing nutters, trying to keep up with standards fit through and through for the 1950s. We’re in the midst of one of the worst economic crises ever and what do you right-wingers worry about? A birth certificate, for Christ’s sake. You should be horribly ashamed of yourselves. You’re really a pathetic, laughable lot. Right-wing American culture has become so totally static and sterile that it’s no wonder countries such as Brazil and China are very, very rapidly evolving towards a position of total domination of our global economy. And, as far as defense systems are concerned: look at the treaty recently signed by Iran, Brazil and Turkey. The whole thing provokes the conclusion that these countries are swiftly becoming the nuclear powers of the near future. Whether America likes it or not. Yeah folks, America’s a has been. It’s lost its position of superpower a long time ago already. And, by the way, pick your dumbass Palin the next time. The situation will only get worse for the US of A. It’ll be back to the Bush type amateurism in foreign as well as domestic politics. Hooray!

    • airangel

      Prosperous, Self Reliant, limited Government, Freedom embracing, society contributing and God loving is the ONLY WAY to heal and be whole again

    • JeffH

      Nothing like the words of a bottom feeder to perk up the sheeple at the trough!

  • American Conservative

    Racial and ethnic diversity in our country is a good thing. It’s one ideal our country was built upon. However, “gays” are not a racial or ethnic minority, and therefore do not need representation or a defender in our highest court. Check out this link: http://www.narth.com/docs/debatecontinues.html

    If we call people with same-sex attraction and sexual perversion between members of the same sex a “minority” then who will be in the next minority? Will pedophiles and people practicing bestiality need to be represented next? There is even debate among the APA as to whether pedophilia is a disorder or not. This is the same organization that in the past rejected homosexuality as a disorder.

    Where do you draw your line? I draw mine in the Bible, and it’s pretty clear. If you draw yours somewhere else, then where do you stop? Is it OK to have sex with your grandmother if everyone else in your family has passed away?

    This said, I do *not* hate “gays.” I realize that they are people, too, but they need transformation of their lives. This is what the Bible clearly teaches. Teaching them that they cannot change, that they were *born* that way, that it’s *natural* — that is true enslavement. That is the real danger. Do you know what happens to someone who leaves homosexuality? She gets persecuted by the community, called a liar. Why? It’s the same reason people who leave many religions of the world get persecuted: insecurity that the belief system might be incorrect.

    • denniso

      The bible was written by men who were terrified by gay people and wanted to keep them oppressed, much like the modern day ‘conservatives’. Except that, every now and then, a fine upstanding ‘conservative’ turns out to actually be a closeted gay…shock, shock!!!

      • coal miner

        denniso,

        According the gospel of Saint Mark,which is deleted,Christ himself may have been bisexual.

        • coal miner

          denniso,

          Here are the cruelties that happen in the name of Christianity.Everyone can read this.

          http://www.exposingchristianity.com/inquisition.html ·

          • Vicki

            Funny that the Christan basher always points out the cruelties committed by supposed Christians and fails to point out the cruelties committed by followers of all those other religions.

            Islam. To this day followers are known to behead non-believers.

            Buddhist. Human sacrifices were still occurring in Buddhist Burma in the 1850s

            Aztecs. Aztecs began their elaborate theocracy in the 1300s and brought human sacrifice to a golden era.

            There are many many more.

          • timr

            Vicki, I concur…………..

          • JC

            Well Coal Miner, I guess you better convert to Islam before it’s too late. I’m sure directions will be in the next Union news letter.

          • kate8

            And what about the cruelties and genocide that always come after a communist/Marxist/Socialist takeover? The extermination of the opposition, the elderly and infirm, the disabled…

        • JeffH

          Again I point out…these words are spoken by a self-confessed satanist.

          • coal miner

            JeffH,

            Wrong,I am agnostic.In my view all religions are means of control,including Satanism.The existance of God can’t be proven or disproven,that is my belief.

          • JeffH

            …Yet it is you who confessed and believes in the teachings of the Joy of Satan Ministries…as I said before, a confessed satanist.

        • angel-wanna-be

          Coal Miner___You are living proof, that stupid, can’t be fixed!!!!

      • gregory

        hey dinniso

        perversion is only preasant in humans, they can always choose to put prversion away and not look back, faith is a verry special tool in exaulting the perverted feelings, WHAT WOULD JESUS DO? he sure wouldn’t embrace a perverted lifestyle, he was much stronger than that, darkness is only the absence of light, i love the homosexual–but i refuse to change my opinion of what is perverted and what is not, its just a matter of strength,faith ,hope,and love, some folks are just stronger than others thats all…

  • http://gmail i41

    Fredrick H. or is is another name for a lib., rules are rules unless it involves democrats, every person that runs for elected office has to present a birth certifacte except for the muslim smuck. Are you socialists embarrassed about letting a foriegn wanna be run the USA into the ground. Omoron and the dems haved trashed and messed up the job market and our economy, the democrat way, fudge on actual numbers of how high unemployment is. The easiest way to get things moving is to get rid of the green crap, drill on land and sell the oil on the open market, bury the cap and trade BS, end all the new social programs, kill endless unemployment welfare, kick the able bodied welfare rats in gear to mowing and cleaning up raodditches and not just handing them money. Omoron signed an executive order to spend over 20 million to bring in Hamas and other palistine terrorists, a real smart move, probably have them set down in New York or Michagan and let them run wild and maybe kill a few more Americans. Still have doubts if he is a muslim. The simple minded socialist democrats cann;t think of anything new but spend taxpayerds money on pipe dreams. Duh dems don’t pay taxes. The run for Congress and become lobbyist after being turned out to pasture, if ever.

  • http://www.positiveenergylifestyle.com Positive Energy Alternative

    Don’t forget the majority of Conservative Supreme Court Judges just voted to give corporations (even foreign corporations) equal rights as human beings in the form of supposed Freedom of Speech, but actually enabling Corporations and Special Interests to corrupt American politics by injecting as much money as they wish to spread misinformation against candidates they don’t like and equally false stories about candidates who will actually support their agenda of greed and exploitation when they are elected. Conservatives always have the most negative things to say about their opponents. They make out like being a Progressive or a Liberal is a bad thing. Don’t forget, the Constitution and Bill of Rights were the most Progressive Liberal document ever written as the basis for a new self governing country. The “conservatives” of that day voted to continue allegiance to the King!!! Today they still try to sway people to allegiance with their King…fossil fuel and control for their own exploitation and $$$ benefit is their King. Don’t be fooled by their lies and deceit. They are the usurpers of today.
    What we are really seeing today is an amazing wave of lies, deliberate misinformation, false conclusions drawn from twisted logic and horrible propaganda. We are also seeing deliberate invasion of Democratic Meetings (Free meetings held in public locations) by organized groups of disrupting right wing activists who collectively work to interrupt the meeting and deflect it from the very ideals of a free democratic government. There are on-line published transcripts of tactics they are to employ which coaches them on how to disrupt the meetings.
    This is the same kind of propaganda and disruptive tactics employed by the Nazi’s to get Hitler elected in the fledgling Democracy that was established in Germany after World War One. As soon as Hitler got elected, he disbanded their representative government and established a dictatorship. Dick Cheney is the present Head of the Snake behind these tactics. He is the chief criminal who endorsed torture…one of the very basic tactics of Hitler and his mob. One of the reasons torture is illegal is because it always involves torture of innocent people. Torture is a tactic used to get information. They don’t know what the information is or who has it. That is what they are searching for. So they torture “suspects”; people who they think may have information. They grab people at the scene of incidents, whom they think may know something. In fact those people are OFTEN innocent bystanders. There are documented examples and even movies have been made about tortured people who were not guilty and filed lawsuits. The Right wings NEVER talks about that. And they don’t care about people. They are against helping people and want to abolish “family services” which they label as “welfare”. If they had their way there would be no “unemployment benefits” as that too is a “socialist” program in their view. If they were able to inflict their will on us the banks would have no regulations. So imagine our plight if they had their way in this recession. There would have been breadlines for sure if people had not gotten an unemployment check to buy food and other family necessities, like clothes and school supplies. Think of how many more stores would have had to close and lay off even more people. This author is NOT your friend. The writer of this article is an oil man’s son and has a vested interest in fossil fuels. No doubt he hates Obama (and many of us progressives) who are leaving fossil fuels behind. It has often been revealed that just 100 square miles of SW desert could supply all the energy we’ll ever need (for free) from the STAR around which this tiny planet orbits. We can power our homes, businesses and cars from the SUN (I am switching to drive a far more efficient non-polluting electric car and will never buy a gas car again). Obama has initiated many alternative energy programs. The energy secretary has said electric cars are superior, too. Corporations only employ 5% of the population yet they think they have all the answers for the American people….They actually want to control how you live so you remain dependent on them and their products. But it isn’t working. We are able through the internet to get the truth out about their underhanded lies and tactics. The polls have always actually shown people favor freedom for ALL citizens. Sure some bigots are against gay rights, and other minority rights as well, (they perpetrated genocide against the Native Americans and fought a great war over slavery). Minorities are still human beings and giving them protection under the Bill of Rights does not reduce the rights of main stream Americans…except in the mind of control freaks, white WASP supremacists and racial bigots. And we know their lies.

    • s c

      positively negative, I’ve GOT to have the name and phone number of your drug pusher. It must be expensive – right? Does it last for a long time? Any side-effects? Can I have it delivered? (I’m a good tipper for speedy service).
      You can reach me at BR-549 (day or night). You progressives get all the really good stuff.

    • coal miner

      Positive,

      Right on,your statement is highly accurate.

    • tim

      Positive Energy Alternative………..I couldn’t agree with you more………..

    • tim

      Positive Energy Alternative………The election of Obama has brought out-of-the-woodwork…….those bigotted WASPS………..but I’m glad, because we are seeing them for what they are……….How else can you explain that Senator who wanted to “celebrate” the Confederate Army, but made NO mention of Slavery……….UNBELIEVABLE!!!…………They Never cease to amaze me…………..Just look at that rally, where an old man with parkinson’s disease was sitting at a Healthcare Rally, and the only thing those hate-filled people at the rally could do……is throw money at them, and scream……..”Here, her’s a handout”……….

      Where did the compassion go in this Country???????

      • JeffH

        The greater question is where has the morality gone.

      • gregory

        hey tim

        alot of the compassion left the country when the government decided it was there duty to racebait and take from others to give to others for a vote, my grand parents noticed this along time ago and wouldent take a dime from the thugs, they had more pride than that, they instead turn’d to there family and friends for the support they needed through the small community they lived in, they claim’d that they were smart enough to not fall for the government handouts since the money was stollen from other hard working people, they couldent live with that kind of guilt, they felt chariety had been kidnap’d by the beurocrats to gain favor for a vote…

        sounds close to what most people have been seeing over the past fifty years or so doesent it? especially over the past three years, its an old trick that lesser intellagent folks of these days fall for, FREE CANDY AT A PRICE AND DAMM THOSE FOLKS THAT WORKED HARD ALL THERE LIFE TO MAKE SOMTHING OUT OF THEMSELVES INSTEAD OF BEING A BLIGHT ON SOCIETY, there will always be pirates to take advantage of society, its now up to us to wash our hands of these dirty ticks and parasites,
        JUST SAY NO TO THE DEVIL–PLAIN AND SIMPLE, my grandparents said no and had a guilt free life into there 90′s…

        THE AMERICAN INDIAN WILL SURVIVE!!!

    • cella

      Wow, well spoken. People need to get a life, and quit watching Fox. It alone has brainwashed America. I have quit reading much of this hate on this blog. These people need to turn the tv off.

      • JeffH

        Perhaps cella, you should quit reading all of the comments if you find them so bad. Wouldn’t want you to get any bad impressions.

      • JC

        I pretty much never watch TV. I’ve never seen an episode of Beck or Limbaugh. I HAVE though read the Constitution and studied US history.
        And that is enough reason to completely despise these socialist left nut jobs that want to give the country away, because they “feel” it’s the right thing to do.
        What a bunch of latte licking low lives….

      • gregory

        hey cella

        what investigative journalist news station do you watch or listen to to get your imformation? im just interested so i can start watching them and make my own determinations, it seems like you have made your own mind up and feel it is your duty to imform everybody of how evil fox news is, i like to take the same imformation from each news outlet and research what each source has reported on, then discover the sources the storys came from, and simply do the research on the storys myself, check all facts, start subtracting storys that were in any way bias and had the fewest facts, at the end there is a score with the value of the most true storys and what news outlet reported on them, that will tell you wich news outlet gives the most accurate and true imformation, ive fact check’d most all news orgs and came up with one news source that time after time has reported the truth above and beyond any other news sources…

        tell me wich ones you go to and i will do your homework for you, no charge, verry simple. i think you will be verry surprised…

        american indians will survive….

  • BonnieMW

    Mr. Livingston, I usually agree with your opinions but on this one I don’t agree with the way you put it. Minorities should always have the same rights as majorities under the law. That is the basis for freedom for all. The laws should represent the majorities but after that there should be no discrimination at all. I think the mistake with the Arizona law is that it will lead to profiling. In Oregon we made a law that you have to prove your citizenship to get a drivers license. You can get a 90 day temporary without proving citizenship or special situations get a longer temporary license. No one fought the law here at all and it doesn’t lead to discrimination. We don’t of course have the illegal immigrant problem like they do in Arizona. Here you get stopped don’t have a license you don’t drive off. I think that maybe a better way to put the law is if you are breaking a law then you have to prove citizenship and if you are driving with-out a license you then have to prove citizenship.

  • Bob Shu

    America was not founded on Christianity.
    FACT: Right wingers are fatter & less educated then liberals. Just read what they say. Some even think Obama is a Muslim..
    Kagen never banned the military from schools…They couln’t roam around campus and they have to stay in their office. STOP LISTENING TO FAUX NEWS & Glenn Beck..SUCKERS.
    DO SOME OF YOUR OWN RESEARCH!

    • American Citizen

      Uh, no, she banned the recruiters from campus until she was told it was against the law to do so.

    • angel-wanna-be

      Bob Shu, sounds like you’ve had your share of KOOLAIDE!__Read the REAL HISTORY bud, not the stuff that agrees with what you wanna hear and what your slinging!!

  • tim

    SkpiFoss, you can believe that if you want……you can hate gays, and what YOU think they stand for all you want………My feeling, is that, I don’tsubscribe to their sexual preferences, but what they do in the privacy of their own House……..is THEIR business……just as it is YOU business, what YOU choose to do behind closed doors……….Why in the heck should I care, what they do………..I don’t live every day by the Bible……after all, the Bible condoned keepong slaves, didn’t they????

    • American Citizen

      It’s not the fact they are gay, it their “in your face attitude”. As a commentator said several years ago, it’s not who they are but what they do that is so sickening.

  • BonnieMW

    Mr. Positive Energy. Left or Right they are all spreading lies and disruptig meetings. You have to realize 3 major media stations are owed by Democrates and one is owned by Republicans. So who is Mr. Positive Energy. Left or Right they are all spreading lies and disrupting meetings. You have to realize 3 major media stations are owned by Democrats and one is owned by Republicans so who is spreading the most lies. I think the reason most conservatives are so angry is because the current politicians we have in office are catering to the kings of big business and special interest not representing the people. Don’t be fooled that your Democratic left cares anymore about your universe than the right does. They are using you to make themselves one of the Kings. Back in the 80′s the Weyerhaeuser used the spotted owl issue to make their shares skyrocket and G.E. is doing the same thing now suckering in the people who think they are conserving the world but really it is all about someone making money or becoming more powerful.

    • tim

      Bonnie, I agree……..both parties are in bed with Big Business………

  • http://AOL tarco

    I believe that a supreme court justice should rule according to the and within the parameters of the USConstitution. It should not be ruled by the “judgement” put forth by politically biased judges. I believe that the Court was one of last resort for difficult politically stimulated decisions that needed to be decided by the Constitution’s laws.

    • JeffH

      tarco, I couldn’t agree wit you more…well said.

  • Sidewinder

    BonnieMW
    I have not heard one single person say minorities shouldn’t have the same rights as majorities under the law.
    I don’t believe anyone feels that way, I haven’t seen it here.

    Bonnie, profiling is a tool used by law enforcement. Theres lots of things to look for when profiling. When profiling for drug runners in airports in the past, nervous behavior/sweating was something to watch for. If you are looking for illegal Mexicans, the fact that some one looks Mexican might be the first clue…

    Simply asking them to show ID is perfectly legal, and fine. They got a real problem in Arizona, they have to do something.

    • Sidewinder

      Think I’m done here

  • Don

    To get back to the original subject, the Constitution places no qualification requirements to be appointed to the Supreme Court. One can be an atheist, or a theist, a liberal or a conservative, straight or gay.

    One should be aware that if Kagan is appointed to the Court, the present Conservative majority will still be there. So, why all the excitement? The Conservative Justices are all young enough that they will outlast President Obama even if he should serve two terms. So no matter, how one feels about the appointment, the world will not come to an end if a liberal justice is replaced by another liberal justice.

  • JeffH

    Schoen: Strong ‘Anti-Obama Vote’ in Results
    Tuesday, 18 May 2010 10:53 PM Article Font Size

    Democratic pollster Doug Schoen told Fox News Tuesday night that election results are showing a strong “anti-Washington” and “anti-Obama” vote.

    With news that Obama-backed Arlen Specter was defeated and tea party favorite Rand Paul won, Schoen suggested that establishment candidates will be under fire this November.

    He said that the tea party’s power “can’t be underestimated” and that Paul’s election shows the level of anger among grass-roots Republicans
    to the party’s leadership in Washington.

    Still, he said the GOP should benefit this November because the Democrats control Congress and the White House.

    Schoen said if the Democrats don’t move quickly to the center, they are “going to pay a huge price” in Congressional elections.

  • http://klbeye@aol.com kelly ruggles

    This has nothing to do with being sexiest dum pricks. It is about telling the truth wether you like it or not. And quit frankly she deserves all she gets for treating are men who fight for are freedom every day, cause freedom dose not come free and if you dont know that then you are preety dum! We have always had to fight for the freedom we have and are blessed with that God has giving us.Look at history and if u havent that is preety sad for we are built on history that is what U.S is about. And if it wasn’t for them we would be in the same place as the jews where with hitler and look at china and jews and christians in forgn countrys,we are the only country that has freedom still like we do and I am proud of it I dont want to be like the other countrys I want to be seperate from them. O I forget, you people like to live in a communist country where the goverment tell’s you what you can do and what you cant do where they controll everthing you do. I like my guns thank you verey much and my freedom that is why I pray earnistly that we can get these nazi leberals scum bags out of office or we will be there. And we know the truth and we are being warned now we have the choice to take it and lissing or not and let them back in, please dont. And it is wrong to have gays serve in are military it makes me want to vomit and i know it dose God, and we are allowing are military men to look like a joke and become a joke to the enemy of this country we dont look serious and they know we are not serious and they think we are a joke and we will be sorry here verey soon. We are guna suffer if we dont wake up and make a noise. obama and his [offensive term removed] has already started it by saying sorry to are enemys, you never, and we should never say sorry, what a slap in the face to are four fathers and to are men who lay their lives down so we can have freedom. And when we stop fighten we will be slaves to the enemy do we want that! I know I dont cause I am Gods child not mans but that is what this goverment wants. I dont, I want to be able to chosse what I want to do and do with my life. And again about that dum communist nazi woman I am thankfull that somebody is telling the truth and warning us of the faul play that is happing and not afraid to tell us or say, it is nice to see for once that someone is not falling to the lies. Unlike all of you writers that have wroten on this issue. Thank you personal liberty allert for telling the truth, dont stop no matter what, we need you kind of people, God Bless. Please dont stop warning us of these issues still if people get made keep coming and telling.

  • Elle

    We know most Males think with practical thought, Females think with emotion, (on the rule) WHY does obama pick and like the females??? I don’t get off on this R/D, blame,blame, we get lost in all the name calling. There is Right vs Wrong, Good vs Evil, now leaving all auguements on the side THINK before you spew out your ignorance and show you IQ!! I as a LEGAL AMERICAN person do not think Kagan is a good representation for Supreme Court Justice, she bring dishonor to the Court! #1. Lack of experience, #2. I LOVE BOOKS! & that is a Freedom of Choice. #3. Moral vs immorality. That is only my choice which we all have a right to.
    THANK YOU, Jerry I have enjoyed your well thought out articles. Blessings! Elle P.S. Happy Birthday, Birthday Girl!!

  • william ahrens

    The USA has never been perfect but seems to me there’s lots of people trying to leave their POS country to come here legally and not. We still have a representative democracy, albeit it has been perverted by high priced, influential lobbyists who buy what their masters want at the expense of the taxpayer. Like it or not our government was founded on christian principals, which by the way, included the right to worship any way you please or not at all. Liberals don’t like the establishment, much like spoiled disruptive children who push the envelope of order to see how far they can get. We Christians say homosexuality is wrong, which is clearly spelled out in the Bible. OK so you don’t believe in the Bible or God. How about the dictionary? PREVERSION: “the action of perverting, the condition of being perverted, a perverted form, an aberrant sexual practice habitually perferred to normal coitus.”
    PERVERT: “to overturn, corrupt, pervert, to cause to turn aside or away from what is good or true or morally right, Corrupt, to cause to turn aside or away from what is generally done or accepted misdirect to divert to a wrong end or purpose misuse to twist the meaning or sense misinterpret.”
    In some ways this explanation above forms the essence of the liberal movement it would seem. So perhaps liberals are perverts? Just asking.

    • American liberal

      William…you rightys keep insisting this country was founded on Christian values… That’s just your opinion… It was founded on the values of Freedom if anything…. I think the core problem with your post is your mistaking your opinions with facts…. The words ” one nation under God” were not added to the pledge till the mid 1950′s… And by then pretty certin the founding fathers had passed….then you gave the dictionary definition of ” preversion”.. And you decided it applied to homosexuality… Again.. That’s not a fact…. But it is a fact that homosexuality does occure naturally in nature….their are many religions and many versions of the same religions….like the Mormons…to protect all religions it’s a must that no religion be reconizied by our government….. I want no part of your religion.. And the constitution gives me that right… Your post is a great example of how you rightwing Christians will only tolerate your version of religion and freedom… Your very post is a threat to freedom and our constitution…. You’re also very wrong …

  • Char

    To those who don’t know our Creator will never agree with us, But one day He will come back and they will bow their knees to him and will know the truth but will be to late for them. What you are seeing is the god they serve speacking through them.. so we need to pray that they will see the real truth.

    • Yvan

      Char
      Tell me! Who created the creator. What about if I tell you that the Universe never had a beginning and will never end. Will you be offended? Like a circle, do you know where its start.

      • American Citizen

        That’s why He’s God, He always was and always will be.

        • angel-wanna-be

          American Citizen, Amen, My Friend!

  • ONTIME

    It seems as though the odds for the UN-Creendentialed to maintain his path of destruction may have hit a obstacle, it called the elections or the voters revenge and I am almost positive this guy and his cronies, SEIU, ACORN, La Raza, MECHA and unions gone astray are going to do all they can to cause severe problems in the Novemeber elections.

    If the Houses have a majority change or there is a abrupt shift of control and balance, then the odds of his staying in a full term are in danger. The cajones to investigate and publicly challenge his legal restraints and all the allegations whirling around this marketed phony are bound to come to light and end up in the fed courts. This even the Deemers fear, for if they are found to be involved in putting this nation in turmoil in order to fulfill their own illicit agenda, then the very existence of the party is in real jeopardy and in fact being annhilated as a political party. The odds are getting better that this may well be the case and the day is drawing nigh.

  • http://yahoo Lisa Havens

    Harriet Miers was rejected becuase she did not have judicial experience,and she was a friend of the president. Miers had many accomplishments,like Kagan. Kagan supports the obstruction of free speech,especially political speech. Unconstitutional. She is not qualitified for this life long position.

  • American liberal

    Here’s an interesting fact….. The people on this site that claim to be Christians have the most Hateful, Vile ,vulgar post here…. Is this an example of your Christian values?….the biggest threat this country faces are radical rightwing Christians… These radicals that claim to be Christians are also the same ones spreading lies about our president

    • Yvan

      Yes AL – in total areement – Religious people are hypocrite and dangerous. If there is a God out there, he never created any religions. Its all man made bull **** to control people.

      • angel-wanna-be

        Yvan, Soooooo what’s wrong with following the Ten Commandments. Our Judicial System was built on the Bible, my friend. But Atheists don’t believe that, They usually believe in the POOF THEORY__POOF, and there we were, a big round ball in the sky, complete with people, food, animals, a place to live, streams, oceans, and a Government that loves it’s people.___Right, the POOF theory.

    • Doug

      Do you believe the crap you write! Here let me use some of your bull crap you are a racist you don’t like Christians you don’t like whites I think we need to take all the your money and give it to all us white folks! You should be glad their are Christians they might save you from someone like me who thinks people with no common sense should be left to their own so they can kill themselves. Thats the problem today to many dumb people are alive because we pass laws and regulations to makes sure dumb people can’t kill themselves. And then these dumb people have children that’s what has gone wrong to many laws not allowing [offensive term removed] to kill themselves.

    • cella

      Could not have been said better.

      • JeffH

        Ah…welcome, another lost member of the flock has arrived.

        • Claire

          JeffH– I remember an old phrase:

          “Come on, let’s get the flock outta here.”

    • gregory

      HEY AM LIB

      LOOKS LIKE YOU STILL LIVE IN THAT LITTLE CIRCLE?

      TAKE THAT LEAP OUT, ITS GREAT OUT HERE,
      QUIT THE HATE BAITING, IT DOESN’T GET YOU ANYWHERE, IT JUST SHOWS FOLKS WERE THE HATE YOU SPEAK OF REALLY COMES FROM, people are starting to believe that libs are exactly what they claim everybody else is, arent you any better than that?

      you know were our country is heading as well as everybody else does,you know whats comming and there is nothing you or anybody else can do about it, sit back –relax,verify the crap your spewing and post it on this site so me and every body else can investigate your sources, and make our own determinations and post them as well with the evidences we uncover. there will always be bad in every culture, why add to it. face it none of us want a marxist style government and are prepared to go to the line to keep it out, i would rather be a free man than to submit , face it the marxist slip’d in through opertunity, they will leave through the back door, and wont have that opertunity for another 40 or so years,and make no mistake-the marxist comes in every color-so i dont think people are just against black marxist alone, they are just plain and simple against marxism and are fighting against it, marxism means less freedom, and who doesn’t want more freedom…ARE YOU SO ANGRY BECAUSE JESUS LOVES YOU ANYWAY and there is no way for you to stop that…

      american indians will survive–will you?

  • Ellie

    Most Males, real men think with practical thought, Most females think with emotion and feeling, (on the rule.) Why does obama like the female types, can’t fool or stand up to Real Men?
    I do not get off on this R/D, blame, blame, low classed name calling. That is what evil wants, is for us to get sidetracked like a deceiver while they do their dirty work. Listen, Watch, and read, KEEP up with WHAT is going on!! Think before you spew ougly words and aqusations showing your IQ.
    As a Legal American born Voter I do NOT want Kagan to represent the Supreme Court!! I do not see her as a positive choice for the Court. That is my choice, my right which we all have a right to voice.
    THANK-you Jerry for all your well thought out articles!! HAPPY BIRTDAY to Birthday Girl! God Bless, enjoy your Day. Ellie

  • http://www.positiveenergylifestyle.com Positive Energy Alternative

    Great, here we have a sample of the right wing diatribe; “rules are rules unless it involves democrats”, (the Democrats want to establish new rules for the banking industry so we don’t have another recession, new rules for the health care industry so they cannot deny special treatment to protect their $15Billin in profit. New rules to prevent off shore oil spills like happened in the Caribbean) “every person that runs for elected office has to present a birth certifacte except for the muslim smuck”. (Obama was born in Hawaii and has a birth certificate…as well as the thousands of records of his parents living and going to college there…these right wingers deny ALL the records) “Are you socialists embarrassed about letting a foriegn wanna be run the USA into the ground”. (the Republicans are against heath corporation control reform, banking exploitation reform, and alternative energy development…so who is running US into the ground….BUSH was responsible) “Omoron and the dems haved trashed and messed up the job market and our economy”, (the economy was ruined by the Republicans after 8 years of Bush…Obama has set many programs in motion and the economy is starting to turn up again after just a year and a half) “the democrat way, fudge on actual numbers of how high unemployment is”. (This guy is in denial, we have the highest unemployment in over fifty years) “The easiest way to get things moving is to get rid of the green crap”, (screw the planet, environmentalism is all a HOAX according to this right winger) “drill on land” (dumb right wing, there isn’t enough oil for 8.6 billion people) “and sell the oil on the open market” (We have a system that gives oil companies a subsidy so you pay less than open market prices…which are about $8.00 a gallon. That would KILL the U.S. economy), “bury the cap and trade BS”(again this guy thinks there is no health consequence to pollution), “end all the new social programs” (yep, he doesn’t care about people, children, old folks, education or anti-poverty programs), “kill endless unemployment welfare” (here you go…this would be a full fledged Depression with out unemployment), “kick the able bodied welfare rats in gear to mowing and cleaning up raodditches and not just handing them money”.(First of all, cleaning out road ditches for unemployment would be a social program…and all you American’s who are out of work as a result of the bankers lying about their portfolio values and crashing the world economy are now lazy welfare rats according to this right winger and you ought to get off your dead ass and get back to work. As if you could find a job in this recession) Omoron signed an executive order to spend over 20 million to bring in Hamas and other palistine terrorists,(here we go, it is not enough to twist the facts as he did above, now he makes up a bald face lie) a real smart move, probably have them set down in New York or Michagan and let them run wild and maybe kill a few more Americans.(so, now who really believes 3 steel buildings fell straight down without explosives and jumbo jet airplanes disintegrate when they hit the ground…only in science fiction movies and Cheney scenarios). “Still have doubts if he is a muslim”. (facts don’t matter to people like this guy…First they condemn him for following a radical black Christian priest then they say he’s a Muslim…they say whatever is convenient.) “The simple minded socialist democrats cann;t think of anything new but spend taxpayerds money on pipe dreams”. (see, this guy thinks alternative programs like solar energy and wind energy and electric cars are “pipe dreams”!!! He would have you remain enslaved by the oil companies and coal companies forever!!!And he doesn’t care about the side effects of fossil fuel systems…like pollution, poisoned streams and how many oil spills do we need to wake people like him up? He sure won’t go down to clean the beaches or try to save the poor oil coated birds and animals). “Duh dems don’t pay taxes”. (I most certainly have paid taxes all my working years…and so do other Democrats as well as average Republicans (except Nixon never paid any income taxes…remember that scandal?)….We all live here in America…but this guy doesn’t respect anyone who disagrees with his narrow uniformed viewpoint). “The run for Congress and become lobbyist after being turned out to pasture, if ever”. (there are thousands of lobbyists in Washington and most are representing Special Interests, Fossil fuel, Insurance, and other Corporations…because those are the wealthy entities who can afford lobbyists!! Progressives and Liberals join grass root volunteer organizations, and then get busy showing up the lies, misinformation and prejudice of people like this who can’t even spell good, let alone have any tangible facts in their diatribes.

    • Doug

      The only thing positve about you is the wind you make running your mouth and typing. There is more gas and Oil here in the good old USA then in the MiddleEast [offensive words rmoved]. Oil and natural gas are far cheaper than anything you can offer. If it so good why is there no corporation making money selling alternative energy without tax incidentives? Learn about a free market it will set you free before you die on your alternative energy!

    • tim

      Everyone should read former CIA Robert Baer’s Book, called……Sleeping with The Devil, about how we have sold our Soul, to Saudi OIL……………

      until we stop supporting terrorism, by buying up ALL of the Middle Eastern Oil, we will keep getting attacked………….

      I bet your’e thinking…….WHAT…….supporting Terrorism??………that is exactly what we do, and that is where much of our money goes…………..

      • gregory

        hey tim

        i agree with you on this one, we must get off the oil i.v from the middle east and use our own resources here at home, do away with the special favors our politicians all enjoy for importing oil from the middle east…

        take the politicians out of the loop…

  • Cudabear

    Positive Energy Alternative -

    You make me sick. You’ve been so brainwashed and lied to and fallen into the left wing lies, you’re worthless.

    • Yvan

      Cudabear
      What make you sick is the fact that you can stand to hear the true. Go back to school body.

      • gregory

        HEY Y VAN

        ARE YOU SPEAKING OF THE GOVERNMENT RUN SCREWLE SYSTEM THAT GAVE YOU YOUR PASSING GRADES?

      • gregory

        y van

        wow!! RAZZELL-DAZZELL-SNAZZELL-FRAZZELL

  • chuck b

    amer lib

    you seem to have a problem with the christian community, could it be you are a muslim? or more likely jewish?. since the marxist movement came from the jews i will take it you are jewish. when it comes to critizing religions i think you better research your own. you better go back and read some of the hate and ridicule spewed by you in previous comments before casting anymore stones.

    we don’t need to spread lies about your president, he is evident, the whole world can see what he is, except those that think and speaks like him, you.

    • American Citizen

      All you have to do is hear what he is saying via his teleprompter and read between the lines (if you can stand to listen to him).

    • American liberal

      Chuckie… Why am I not suprised you hate Jewish people too?… Is it because most Nazis, skinheads and KKK members always hate the Jews and minoritys?.. They always claim to be Christians too….you rightwingers hate everything and everybody…but use the nonsense in the bible to make it” all ok”…

      • Doug

        AL maybe you better ask your idol why he does not like the Jews. The Jews have found out what there voting for and idoit does to them! Come next election I think the Jews know Obama wants Israel to go down to the barbarians that surround them.

      • kate8

        For the zillionth time, the KKK were democrats.

        Is this work really fulfilling for you, AL, just sitting at a computer all day slinging insults and being a jerk?

        • Right Wing

          Kate…its worse…he believes it. Kind of funny and sad.

  • Delores Smith

    MR. JOHN MYERS – A GREAT ARTICLE – THANK YOU.

    I agree with everything that you’ve presented. Kagan is not qualified for the Supreme Court, having been a lawyer only two years and never being on the bench. I believe I know what Obama sees in her ability to be on The Court. She and Obama want to destroy our Constitution. World News Daily (www.WND.com) has an article about the Constitution, dated May 18,2019.
    Mr. Myers, Hillary Clinton refused to present to Senator DeMint a full record of the treaty between the U.S., and Russia. She provided only an outline to DeMint at the Senate Foreign Relations Committee. I sense what is going on. The word “Global” is synonomous with “destroy the checks and balances of the Constitution.” I’ve written to DeMint and asked him to demand the full treaty. What is she hiding? It is important NOTHING be negotiated and finalized outside of the United States. This is their attempt to avoid the checks and balances of Congress and ultimately destroy our Constitution (Cass Susstein, if you’re reading this, this IS a Conspiracy…but none of it is theoretical–This concerns your attempt to take away freedom of speech.)
    Will address Arizona is a separate post. Thanks.
    Delores Smith
    Delores109@cox.net

    • American liberal

      Delores… The artical was dated 2019?… Figures …

      • American Citizen

        So it was a typo, the rest of us know what she means. Hillary is not far from Obama’s thinking.

      • JLC

        American Liberal — “artical” is mispelled….figures

  • American liberal

    Just yesterday we had to listen to another rightwing Christian family values republicans cry and blubber about how he sinned aginst God and was banging a staff member… I’m a little sick of these. Hypocritical rightwing Christians ( fakes).. Trying to shove their vile Christianity down this countrys throat only to turnout to be Ted Haggards and Jimmy Swaggarts….they get on tv and cry and blubber about their sin and jesus then think it’s all ok… By the way…this Christian was another of those that tried to impeach Clinton….

    • JeffH

      American liberal, you, being of a sick mind anyway, who could fault you for being sick, period!

    • American Citizen

      At least he had the decency to resign, unlike Democrats when they’re caught.

    • airangel

      Am Lim, there are “fake” Christians and “fake” churches that do not support true Christianity. Many churches are turning away from God in favor of Socialism and “wrong” agendas and their own organizations and corporatism. I will say it again…you have good and bad in every human being, every religion, every race, culture and gender…there are good Hispanics and then there are gangs like La Raza that want to kill all Gringos, there are good Muslims and then there are terrorist such as Al Qaeda under exteme Islam, good Dems and bad Dems, Good Republicans and bad…you should know better than to try and isolate and stereotype one sinner or a few individual incidences as the norm rather than the exception…that would be like me saying all Mexicans are bad because of La Raza. That would not be true so be careful in your own racism against Christianity because when you mock God and are sarcastic and speak his name in vain, he can strike you down or those you love as punishment, not for me to judge but …”Vengence is mine, thus sayeth the Lord” and yes his wrath can be mighty so be careful how you slur innuendos in his namesake.

  • Vicki

    Rehnquist wrote: “To the argument made by Thurgood Marshall [in Brown v. Board of Education] that a majority may not deprive a minority of its Constitutional right, the answer must be made that while this is sound in theory, in the long run it is the majority who will determine what the Constitutional rights of the minority are.”

    This clearly shows what many of us suspected about Rehnquist. That he did not bother to read the history of this country either.

    The entire Bill of Rights is there to protect the minority from the will of (Tyranny of) the Majority. Changing the Constitution requires 3/4 vote of the states (not the individuals). There are lots more examples that obviously Rehnquist is totally unaware of.

    Not a big surprise when we find that most of our elected and appointed officials do not (or is it can not? :) ) read the Constitution nor the laws and regulations they pass on us.

    We can change this behavior. http://www.downsizedc.org find the campaigns for read the bills and write the laws. Add your voice to the growing number that demand change we CAN believe in.

    • http://www.complex-air.com Jerry

      Vicki,
      You go girl!!

      That is because NONE of them can read I don’t think. None of our politicians have read the bills they pass and compain about. They admit it. The ones in the white house that are downing the Arizona Illegal Law admitted before congress they have not read the bill but yet they feel they must comment on it in a negative way so they can push their agenda of getting all the illegal’s in to get those extra votes.

      I SAY VOTE THEM ALL OUT AND START OVER with OUR beliefs!! Not the Progressive beliefs.

  • william ahrens

    Yvan

    The “creator GOD, has no beginning and has no end. He always was and always will be. Even the brightest of we humans do not have the capacity to understand this concept. Christians accept it. You have way too much faith in human capacity to understand the mysteries of the universe. Like gravity, you can’t explain it but you know its there. Einstein once drew a circle on a classroom chalk board. He said everything inside this circle represents the knowlege of man. The periphery of the circle is the unknown. The bigger the circle of understanding the greater the periphery of the unknown. We send robotic craft into space to answer the questions our unsatiable curiosity compel us to explore. The more questions we answer the more questions we have. Like it or not, we will all die one day. I believe I will meet my creator and many questions will be answered. You may believe that when you close your eyes for the last time that is the end. One of us is going to be wrong. My money is on Christ.

    • Yvan

      WA
      I like your post but I thing that your are afraid to stand up for yourself. Well, I gest there is nothing wrong with buying tour ticket for Heaven.

      • gregory

        HEY Y VAN

        WHY BUY THE GOLDEN TICKET WHEN IT IS SIMPLE TO EARN IT!

  • airangel

    ok Chaos, I said I’d give him the benefit of the doubt but I just heard him speak…once again apologizing to the Mexican government for Arizona’s Law…rather than being firm and supporting the country he is sworn to uphold and protect…he belittles us yet again and you, AM Lib, TimR wonder why we question his birth…it’s not the certificate that’s important but his true citizenship and allegiance to this country…An American Citizen would defend this country and convey with strong conviction, the consequences to violaters and trespassers and law breakers that disregard American Citizens and our Law of the Land. Instead of upholding our constitution he lies about the AZ law “racial profiling” which it does not. I have read it and therefore I cannot support deception and lies. His condescending tone towards Arizona to the Mexican President made me sick. This just further supports that this group of Harvard law makers follow and support Alinksy’s ways rather than the Constitution which is to lie and infiltrate until you have control and power. Kagan is another power play to further advance their agenda. Actions are proving louder that empty speeches. Dividing us is one of the tactics taught.

    • American Citizen

      Exactly, watch what they do, not what they say. There is no way we can trust Obama to do what is best for this country.

    • Vicki

      Why should we apologize to the Mexican Gov for Arizona law? The Arizona law (modeled after the Federal Law) is FAR nicer that the Mexican immigration law.

  • JeffH

    ALERT! ALERT! Do not let American Liberal, timr, Chaos factor and their ilk change the direction of the commentary…everyone that is hung up on argueing their “religeous points” has allowed them to change, once again. the dynamics of Chip Myers original article. This is about “Supreme Injustice”, nothing else. Do not let these hacks control the direction of your commentary.

    “The first step in community organization is community disorganization. The disruption of the present organization is the first step toward community organization. Present arrangements must be disorganized if they are to be displace by new patterns…. All change means disorganization of the old and organization of the new.”
    Alinsky

    • American Citizen

      I, too, although a believer, wish the Bible thumpers would get with the program.

    • American liberal

      Jeffh … That’s funny how you’ve appointed yourself ” minder” of these people… You don’t think they have enough Wit to speak for themselves?…do you have a little ” Tonfoil ” minders hat and official rightwing badge you wear?…kinda like a grade school hall monitor…

      • JeffH

        American liberal, obvious you don’t care for the exposure! I ain’t gonna stop anytime soon so I would suggest that you get used to it!

  • JeffH

    These are possibly the 5 best sentences you’ll ever read:

    1. You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity.

    2. What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving.

    3. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else.

    4. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them, and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for, that my dear friend, is the beginning of the end of any nation.

    5. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it.

    • airangel

      These are great Jeff H!

    • American liberal

      Jeffh… To bad that wealth part doesn’t apply to you jeffh…. Your pretending that little list means you…I’ve been on this site long enough to know most of you are lower middleclass or disabled seriors living on the very government programs you claim to despise…again… Check yourself… Middleclass wages have been stagnet for decades.. While the top 2 % have never enjoyed such wealth at your expense …I’m not at all impressed with your points of alligence to the rich that think of you as nothing but a tool… They must be laughing at you more than I do….

      • JeffH

        Did I hit a sore spot with you Am Lib? Have at it!

        • JC

          Those are excellent and timeless observations Jeff. They fly in the face of all things Liberal like a win mag 300. keep it up.

      • JeffH

        “The world as it is’ and ‘The world as it should be…’ And, ‘All of us driven by a simple belief that the world as it is just won’t do – that we have an obligation to, fight for the world as it should be.”
        Barack Obama

  • Robert

    Jerry right on. Our president is to appoint people who will uphold the constitution not their party or their beliefs. our founding fathers gave us a constitution of laws and reatraints to our federal government. the states are supreme in the constitution. all things not delegated to the federal government are reserved to the stated or the people. Half of the things the government does are in violation of the constitution.

  • Ellie

    Is a Republican or a right-winger known as a Christian? Then what if a Democrate is or belives in God, what is he called? It is here I think we should practice seperation of church and State amd leave our hate out. How would one interpret, Judge not, that you are not judged? I read so much HATE and I see people judging or putting their own jugements on each other, WHY?? Is the only way you get joy and peace striking out with ugly name calling and word? Let have REAL GOOD CLEAN intellegent discussions. To much violence and hate will never SAVE anyone!

    • American liberal

      Ellie..these vulgar people only use Christianity … Read these post from these so called Christians…. These are Nazis , skinheads and racist…

      • KATHLEEN

        hmm…..BO was supposed to bring people together. Looks to me like he is dividing the country! Perhaps that was his intention all along? Who knows for sure?

      • Vicki

        American Liberal says:
        “..these vulgar people only use Christianity … Read these post from these so called Christians…. These are Nazis , skinheads and racist…”

        Pot, Kettle?

      • gregory

        hey there am lib

        wow– that sounds a little like the hate you are arguing against..
        did you see the results of the elections yesterday!
        better than i expected!!
        there is more to come…

        Taxed–Enough–Already

      • angel-wanna-be

        American Liberal, Vulgar, Christians???___Sounds like your in a different CULT than we Christians are!!___Have a nice day!!!

  • WarriorH

    Looks like school must be out.

  • Raggs

    By reading the post above I would say obama the marxist has gotten his wish to divide the country in the hopes for a civil war.

    • WarriorH

      Raggs,

      Looks like the socialist messengers are out in force today. So many misguided individuals. The Mexican Prez comes to America and admonishes us on how we view illegal immigrants. The Chinese admonish us on how we view illegals. Are they serious?

      America has been the beacon of freedom for over 200 years to the entire world from every nationality. We have freed so many nations from tyranny. We have been a nation of hard working and innovated people that have built the idea of America.

      I read the comments from some of these respondents and am bewildered by their thoughts and I wonder, how will this country continue to be a world leader vs. just becoming another nation that is indistinguishable from the rest led by follow citizens who have no respect for the citizens who have chosen them to lead?

  • Delores Smith

    MR.JOHN MYERS – RE: ARIZONA
    I live in Arizona, so let me share what has happened concerning illegals.
    A policeman stopped a car that was speeding. The driver got out of the car and ran away (a crime). The backdoor popped open. Nine people jumped out and ran away in different directions (reasonable suspicion). Yesterday, a small white plane flew over the Arizona’s so-called fence. Two F-16′s appeared and “encouraged” the plane back over the fence into Mexico. This is one of the ways drugs are brought in. I would have shot the plane down (insensitivity).
    You mentioned about the kidnappings in Phoenix. There is one kidnapping every 35 hours. The President spoke about immigration reform today, supporting the President of Mexico. It seemed that he was in a foreign country talking against America again. Arizona has an estimated 500,000 illegals. We don’t know who the criminals are until they shoot or are captured. Three border patrol are shot daily.
    After criticizing Arizona, Obama said he would take a look at the AZ. law. Holder and Napolitano have not read the law either. Make sense?
    Clearly, Obama wants Latino votes, Andy Stern wants union dues for SEIU, Al Sharpton wants a civil rights march, President Calderon wants a place for people to work and send money home, and 70% of the people of Arizona want peace and another President of the United States with a new majority.
    Delores Smith
    Delores109@cox.net

    • airangel

      Delores, I heard that speech by the President and was disgusted but I love the fact that your Governor Jan Brewer is holding her own against what seems like endless, unfair, judgements against her..latest is the counter letter to Los Angeles about boycotting them…AZ’s response “we’ll be happy to turn your 25% power off if you wish to boycott us”…of course we know the OB Administration will support Los Angeles and probably take the power plants from Arizona as retaliation, now NBC is going prime time with a full fledge Immigration special including children of illegals..will be interesting to see how they spin it…at the very least, Arizona is being “seen”…this problem can no longer be ignored and that will be her accomplishment..to finally get their attention in DC and the peoples also watching to see the outcome…I’m sure most know this could make or break them come November! Stay strong Jan Brewer and keep your citizens safe!

      • angel-wanna-be

        Airangel, I love it!__I saw it last night on Fox, that Jan brewer countered LA’s boycott, with threatening to shut off their power!!!
        We live on the East Coast, but I actually, Jumped out of my chair and cheered her on, when I heard it!!!___Hang in there Jan Brewer, hold your ground girl!!!

  • william ahrens

    Yvan

    Not sure what you mean “afraid to stand up for yourself”.

    • Yvan

      William
      All what I will say for now is that I would like to have a long polite conversation with you over a good meal. I’m intrique by people that believe in God. Intelligent exchange of ideas is always challenging. Bible and religion excluded.

  • Ron Light

    Question: Are we headed for another Civil War??

    • JeffH

      100% absolutely not!

  • william ahrens

    Another Civil War? Yup. I know many who are preparing for it just in case and I mean serious preparation. The frustration level and outright disgust with our corrupt out of touch government is palpable. Bush was bad enough. Obama is accelerating it, perhaps on purpose.

    • JeffH

      I believe “revolution” would be a more proper term.

  • william ahrens

    Yvan

    Are you asking me out?? I’m flattered.

  • eddie47d

    ` Kelly Ruggles the cusser at 10:01; Kagan is not anti-military or a dum communist nazi women. Your comments put you into some kind of twilight zone and you bragged you “are a child of God” NOT!

  • eddie47d

    Wm Ahrens;Thanks for your perverted opinion on perverts for it was perverting!

  • http://gmail i41

    If American do not stand up and voice their concerns about the liberal, socialist, marxist, muslim and all the democrats, get ready to learn to drag your prayer rugs out and live in a mud hut. Another thing I am always amazed how democrats, still have one genetic flaw, they want some one to guide them, and thrive on herd mentality. I know over the years of raising livestock, certain bloodlines and and breeds stay bunched and never wander from groups. lib , choas, tim, and othersd of their like ilk have a lot of the same BS attitutde, some one should feed them, give them free healthcare , free shelter, think for them and guide them through life. Omoron has a lot of the same genetic procivity, his arabic history was backgrounded in wandering,stealing, and lying, his kenyan genetic persusion was weed smoker loaded, head dreamer planning for hunts, warfare, where to wander, everyone lived off of everyone else, his dams genetic back ground perdisposition was head female worked and took care of everything, the male dreamed about the wonderful marxist socialism greatness, their hatchling,Omoron mother was a wandering camp follower of any muslim knuckle dragger, may be she was into a good beating regulary at any time, definitely a fence crawler or had a breeching problem. Omoron cann’t help but be a muslim beleiver and has a problem with knowing if he is a leader or and enertainer, his picks for appointments and staff prove that, Michelle, Napolitano, Romer, Kagan, all of the dikey bent. His male picks are like girly boys, peacocks with questionable backgrounds and behaviors, of course Omoron has always been putting something in his pie hole even if is still justa cigerette.

    • American Liberal

      41… I can disprove your nonsense….if the people you named( me) only stay in a comfort zone … Why are we on the Neo Conservative site?….if we were afraid to ” leave the herd” we wouldn’t be here………you rightys always see things backwards and upside down…

  • KATHLEEN

    Another unqualified appointee from BO. BTW – thanks BO. My family doctor quit and my health insurance cost went up (public school system employee). Every day it’s something with you. How do you sleep at night? Are you stupid or do you really hate the U.S.A. that much? Don’t bother responding. . . it will probably be another lie. Sigh. Keep praying for our country, people. We need it now more than ever.

  • American liberal

    William… Yep? Obamas pretty tyrannical .. He’s giving you healthcare… What a crime aginst humanity

    • Doug

      I don’t need govt run health care you and I sure don’t wont to spend my money on your get a job or move out over to Mexico better yet why don’t you just sneak in and see what kind of benefits they give you!

    • coachT

      American L, are you serious,, Giving us health care, ARE YOU THAT STUPID. If you really believe that I HAVE some swamp land in FL for you to buy. GET REAL,, try reading,, checking things out before posting on here,You cant really believe that THE great one lol,, is giving US anything, oh my god,,GAVE US HEALTH CARE, when you start paying out the ass for your so called free healthcare and you are paying for people that dont even work or want to work, then I hope you go broke for that statement and thought, UNREAL, that statement alone says ALL I need to hear, OH YEA about the LAND

      • American Liberal

        Coacht… Am I kidding?… Did the healthcare bill pass?… Yes or no……. Your president gave America, Bankruptsy, 2 wortlhless wars….a debt to China, collapsed wallstreet, open borders , the bailout bill, torturing , 9/11…the patriot act, wiretaps, outted a Cia agent , a disaster he didn’t respond too( Katrina)…tax cuts to the rich while were at War… …ect…… And your calling presiden a Marxist and socialist because he wants some family member we all have an access to healthcare……..940 billion dollars… And yes I read the artical in here yesterday claiming it ” could” cost more……now, most of the money you’re claiming Obamas spending is recovery act and Bailouts….. Had your candidate been elected the same economic experts that advised Obama, McCain, Bush and capitol Hill would have had McCain abd Palin( god forbid) doing the exact samething …

  • http://herringtons.home.mindspring.com lighterknot

    JeffH; you see no need for world government of any kind…Woodrow Wilson did back then… The League of Nations he helped establish, he also regretted signing over the country to establish The Federal Reserve and appease Wall Street Bankers and he apologies in a statement.
    The world has become far more dangerous with its weapons of mass destruction virtually requiring a world government to keep the lid on the nucks. Are you willing for the country to lay its nuclear gun on the table declare weapons of mass destruction amoral and take a chance of being shot in the back. The barroom scenario out west with all guns drawn and pointed with no law is about what we have to deal with without it.

    • WarriorH

      World Government? Please tell me your kidding, right?

    • JeffH

      So naive to say; “The world has become far more dangerous with its weapons of mass destruction virtually requiring a world government to keep the lid on the nucks.” Rinbows and Unicorns…welcome to a sureal world…

  • old white guy

    climb on board. a minority was or were the founding fathers and those who fought against england or the british. if you do not know history you are doomed to repeat it. americans have dumbed themselves down to the point where you will not only repeat it. they will choose slavery over freedom and it will be non discrimantory ,white ,blacks, asians will all be slaves to the government. you folks are just plain stupid and you will fight against those who actually know what freedom is.

    • Al Sieber

      old white guy, I heard you and i agree with you. we don’t have much time left in this country. this admin. is throwing money and credit at the system to solve the problem. we no longer have a sovereign govt., we have a criminal enterprise controlling our country, wall street has Obama in it’s hip pocket, wall street shows crime pays, I’ll say we’re in trouble.

  • http://gmail i41

    edyee, if you claim you are perverted, we beleive you, with the crap you expel from your ingress vent, it no doubt it is a fact! Kagan isn’t anti military, what the hell did she have a problem, with military recruiters on campus, afraid the “students” might actually get a idea, they could be something in life, instead a pansy assed, girly boy lib, over educated wonk. As for someone being smart, our military has the greatest number of college graduates in all feilds, used in the real world, not some theory, feel good, basket weaving crap. Shows what a degree in poly scie and Consistutional law gets you, theories and dreams. Thinking Kagan is going to be fair, her and the last bull [offensive word removed] appointed, will have afeild day, any time a male, espically a white male is involved, with those two bigoted, racists, theorists on the bench.

  • old white guy

    cool. i dropped a couple of points int he conversation and you all are so busy talking to each other that you have no idea what you will actually have to do to save your republic. you folks are doomed

  • Chaos Factor

    You rightys are trying to take up where Hitler left off … I don’t have any doubt that you think we have an “uppity” black man in the whitehouse and it’s driving you crazy…

    • coachT

      Oh boy here comes the race card, MAN, haven’t you all played that to death,, I don’t care if he is black white ,green , the man is evil,, and if you can’t take the time to take off your blinders and LOOK AROUND at what is happening, then YOU deserve to get what is coming OUR way if OBAMA continues to do what he has,, DANG,, Wake Up People, STOP the racist crap, it’s been used already, Try something different then what has been posted by you people,

      • JeffH

        coachT, that’s about the only game they have left. Ignore these hacks…all of them.

    • JeffH

      Perhaps it is the “uppity” Marxist that has everyone up in arms.
      You guys and gals just won’t give up your positions at the trough will you? Oh well, it’ll be over soon enough. Seems the voters are not to happy with the establishment these days! Gonna be a lotta changes made ’round here…then we’ll listen to ya whimper just a bit more, ya think? You betcha!

      • Claire

        JeffH—Bad day today for my son. He had to put down his shorthair. Smokey was 13 years old. Got up this morning and Smokey could not urinate. He tried and tried. Tim took him to the vet and they did an xray and a sonogram. Smokey had a large tumor on his bladder, he had cancer. Nothing was visible from the outside, and the dog was still eating and everything. No visible signs at all. Unbelievable. Needless to say, Tim is surely hurting. He took that dog everywhere, hunting, fishing, etc. Tim has lost a good friend and buddy. Smokey was a good dog, we will all miss him.

        • JeffH

          Claire, please pass on my best wishes as I know the pain so well. Celebrate all of the good memories, that’s all we have. Good memories always seem to bring out a smile.

        • libertytrain

          Sorry Claire, that’s a tough one.

          • Claire

            JeffH & libertytrain–thanks for the kindness. Tim is still grieving. It will take awhile. This past December Smokey “won” lst place in the 2010 Calendar contest for dogs & cats here in town. He got his picture on the cover of the Calendar and for the month of November (hunting season). The contest was for Newspapers in Education. It was a dollar a vote and Smokey got 1,867 votes. Tim was so happy. He had the cover and the month of November professionally framed. Cost him a tidy little sum but it turned out really nice. It is so hard to lose a buddy. Dogs are man’s best friend.

    • Claire

      Chaos Factor–Why do you bring up the race issue? Do you get your jollies from harping on this issue all the time? Personally, I don’t care what color a president is as long as he does a good job. The more you carry on about race, the worse it becomes. You come across like you want to fight all the time. Post your opinions since you have the freedom to, but sometimes a person can open a can of worms for no reason at all. Racism will always exist in some aspects, there is nothing you can do about it. But you have to admit, for the most part, blacks have come a long way, thanks to MLK, Jr.

    • timr

      Chaos Factor……….these Nascar loving red-necks are scared……….I have offered ALL of them , to come down to the South side of Chicago, and say these things about Obama, all these ethnic RANTS……….and we’ll see how far they last……….They would be shittin’ in their cowboy boots…………They don’t want to talk about racial undertones…….because all they are dreaming about, is a WHITE X-MAS…………….

      • JeffH

        It’s not surprising, then, they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren’t like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations.
        Barack Obama
        Explaining his troubles winning over some working-class voters during 2008 US presidential campaign.

        And to think we wondered who you cowards got your talking points from. Bring it on tough guy!

        I’ve now been in 57 states — I think one left to.
        Barack Obama
        At US presidential campaign event in Beaverton, Oregon.

        Ok, look, you know, when I was a kid, I inhaled frequently. That was the point.
        Barack Obama
        Confessing to drug use to audience of US magazine editors, November 2006.

      • libertytrain

        timr – I’m thinking you are pushing your luck with Mr. Livingston’s hospitality.

      • Claire

        timr— A NASCAR redneck? Hmmm, I believe I have no doubt been called worse in my lifetime. Why would I want to go to South Chicago when you are here? Gosh, I don’t want to miss any of your posts so I think I’ll stay right where I’m at. Sorry, don’t feel like driving anywhere.

        • libertytrain

          Claire – he lives in Milwaukee which I guess some consider a suburb of Chicago? I never did when I lived there but things must have changed.

          • Claire

            libertytrain–I never considered Chicago to be connected with Milwaukee either. Apparently he thinks South Chicago is Obama land. All I know is that I stay away from Chicago. Gads, I would sure hate to get lost in that city! The crime rate is atrocious. The last I heard, Daley was wanting to call in the National Guard. But I don’t know if he did or not. I have an awful feeling things are going to get worse.

          • libertytrain

            Claire – I always loved Chicago, and oddly never felt threatened there – but I didn’t hang out at the projects either.

          • tim

            LibertyTrain, only Cubs fans consider Miller Park, a suburb of Chicago…….They actully call it Wrigley Field “North”……which just burns me, being a Brewers Fan…………

          • libertytrain

            Tim – and while most folks reading a map or using their GPS would say Door County is in Wisconsin, those in Illinois would say it is owned by Illinois/Chicago.

        • tim

          Actually Claire, I live in Milwaukee…….but I used to spent alot of time in Chicago, partially to be play Basketball (my 47 year old knees won’t have it anymore)……and partially to work with kids……YES, from the projects………..(helping MANY of them OUT of those projects)…….Many, many success stories, too…………

        • tim

          And Claire, if you ever make your way up to Milwaukee, I’d buy you a Beer, and we could talk Politics with civility………(which, believe it or not, I’m capable of)

  • eddie47d

    Someone said that gays are a security risk. That is an unproven scare tactic.John Meyers says another minority is taking over the country(swift strides). His lead story only spread more fear about gays and how he feeds it to his anxious,scared listeners. Implying that Kagan is anti-military is a distortion for she was only standing up against discrimination. Even Mr Livingston came on the site (twice) and asked for a more civil discoarse. If they really wanted a rational discussion then they should leave out the hype and the in your face belittling of their lead characters. They set the stage for this unpleasant turmoil and then want different results. (or do they?).

    • JeffH

      eddie47d says: “Someone said that gays are a security risk.”

      What happened eddie47d…no time stamp or name to reference?

  • william ahrens

    EDDIE47d

    It wasn’t my opinion. It was the dictionary. Read it a weep pal.
    Now if you want my opinion on homosexuals I’ll be glad to respond but indications are you will not like it.

  • http://gmail i41

    lighternot, just how damn dumb are you, you sound like a simple dumbass who has never been in any kind of a fight. You don’t disarm in any way shape or form! You don’t have to worry about getting shot in the back, unarmed, you will be gutted and buried. The muslim and his radicals want the USA to be stomped into oblivion. The idea of a world government is a joke, the UN proves that s–t idea doen’t work, resolutions, sanctions don’t work, never has, who has to pick up a hammer and beat some skulls, the USA! The gutless world will join in and maybe help, but the idea of China and the rag heads doing something honorable, get real you marxist sewer sucker. Quoting Wilson, shows what a nimwit you really are. League of Nation went down in the dung heap of history as would the UN if dems would tin can the money waster in to history books, we alone pay over 30% of the offical budget, where is China, and the other diaperheade oil rich dictators?The idea a world government keeping the lid on nukes or dangerous weapons, get real. They couldn’t manage oil for food. Omoron tied our hands and let Russia build new style advanced weaponary, and left us with conventional weapons, just like a liberal marxist take a poem to a gunfight. Liberals have never been in a bar fight, to much of a damn bunch of cowards to fight, you don’t have a latte and have a crumpet or two. If you are going to hide, go to the bathroom, or else get in close and start kicking some serious ass, you get a meal while the loser gets a snack. Dream on you you pinheads!

  • eddie47d

    Jeff H;You did have a good comment at 11:45 but earlier you dissed CoalMiner 10:23. His exposing christian torturers kind of hit a nerve for you. I guess waterboarding goes way,way back.

    • JeffH

      In Coal miners case, what goes around comes around…didn’t phase me in the least…I’m all for waterboarding…

  • http://gmail i41

    positive alterniative energy or is it no energy, don’t think the muslim didn’t sign an executive order, of over 20 million to bring in Hamas and palistians to the USA, you simple minded moron, he sure did, in Jan. facts from a democrat senators office, check your disagreement points, retard. Highest unemployment is from the stimulas program your marxist socialist numnuts in congress and the white house jammed through. Jobs are not create in the government sector, it is only a shuffling of taxpayers money, needle nose,the private sector creates jobs and funds the bloated government. Democrats making new rules, you a real fool, dems don’t follow rules, don’t pay their taxes or follow present rules. Green energy is just that, b–l crap, wind energy is undependable, solar is a farce, sun doesn’t shine 24-7, bio fuels, they don’t add in freight costs, solar we have the numnutted enviors don’t want open spaces used, sounds like your ilk you dweeb nut chewer. We have more oil in 2 pools of oil, ready check out the Stansbury report in April 2006 of the Rocky Mts. some at less than a 10000 foot dowmn, over 2 trilliom barrels, the willston Basin discovered in 1950′s, has over 503 billion barrels of oil, present USA usage is only 11.3 million barrels a day, if it was increased to 15 million barrels a day, in the Williston Basin drilled wells were turnedon, it would last for over 2000 years, and that is in justtwo oil feilds in the USA. Williston Basin is less than a mile down. Check it out you green energy dim wit. It would lower the price of crude to about $16 dollars a barrel instead of $80 dollars. There is even a Canadian pipeline going through it on the way to the gulf, get the hell off you ditch weed and read and check out the swill your socialist democrats force feed you as a suppository. I alway enjoy when you simpleminded greenies and government idoits try to disprove facts. As for finding a job, get off your damn door step, that is if you have a real skill, none of this feel good degrees, there is always garabage haulers, repairmen, and mechanics,and automotive repair people wanted all over the USA, college degrees are the greatest number of unemployed. Get a real marketable skills and you can always find a job, don’t be a one shot wonder. If you provide people free money they sure a hell will not get a job nano mind.It maynot be a job you like or enjoy, but you will have money that you have worked for, instead of a welfare rats! As for mowing nad cleaning road ditches at least the taxpayers would be getting something for their taxes instead of just giving them free money from social program that is already there. dumass. Work to eat not wet your dress to get free money. Quit depending on government or somebody else for a job, get off your ass and do something.

    • American Liberal

      41…. Now you want to “Drill Baby Drill” in the Rocky Mts?… Really…. How’s that Gulf drilling going for ya…?…. What’s the definition of insanity?.. Besides being an ultra right conservative ?… You better get use to it because your going to see President Obama around till 2016… And I believe a democrat majority for a while…. I’m expecting to lose some seats… But not what Fox is telling you….

      • denniso

        I haven’t yet heard what Barbie Palin has said on the oil disaster…I imagine she’ll be blaming Obama somehow,though the drilling policy has been in effect for sometime now,back to Bush at least. Maybe she’ll come out for more regulation of the oil co’s,like many ‘conservatives’ are already.

  • http://PersonLibertyDigest Dee

    God said go forth and multiply. You sure can’t do it with 2 men or 2 women. obama is ruining this country.
    The dumocrats will probably go along with Kagan and appoint her to the
    Supreme court. With the other one Sotomayor, we won’t have a prayer of this country doing the right thing.
    This government is so corrupt that it isn’t funny.

  • American Liberal

    President Obama deserves a lot of credit for the great job he’s already done concidering the mess the Last administration left the country in…..president Obamas accomplished a lot in just 18… He’s stabilized an economy that was in Freefall when the last administration left….he should be getting high points….

    • WarriorH

      Barak’s legacy will be that he awakened the slumbering masses and when the masses responded to his message they rebuked him. The progressives were identified and cast out of the Kingdom. America chose truth and Equal Justice.

      The End.

      • tim

        And Corporate POWER, and the ever shrinking middle class………….

    • American Citizen

      The economy is not yet stable, unemployment is still between 10% and 20% depending upon where you live. We’re in for massive inflation and a possible stock market crash. Look at what the economists are saying and what is happening with the job market. Jobs are still being lost as are homes going into foreclosure.

    • tim

      It WAs pretty BAD when he took office………but he will be judged after 4 years in office……..(or 4 months, if your’e the right wing)

  • Robert A. Cullen

    I’ve been trying to put a “comprehensive” perspective on this. The Democrats won the last election with pretty big majorities so the Court’s liberal members are going to get while the gittings good.
    It looks like Obama will repalce three members of the liberal wing before it is said and done. (Brayer appearantly isn’t yet tired of lecturing visiting tour goups on the meaninglessness of constitutionality.) As I’m pointing out the idealogical balance of the Court will remain unchanged. What we better hope does change though is the liberal mood the country is in or else we could be looking at a very unexciting Supreme Court.

    • Anthony

      Robert -
      You are partially right… er, correct, that is.

      But, the whole Constitutionality Discussion would be of the greatest interest to all, if they took a little time to more fully understand the importance of it. It’s not really all that hard. Heck, if I can do it, then just about anyone could. I’m 55.

      I’m fairly certain that those WHO DO understand, probably don’t bother to allow themselves to be baited, especially by those duly-trained Salon.com puppets who think they’ve got those Talking Points memorized.

      TRUTH – Accountability for any Citizen, anywhere on the Planet is an incredibly good thing. Right now, this is the last discussion being had by anyone… it’s become all about exceptions for some. I find it hard to watch those so-called Americans who would defend it be okay for some and not all.

  • Anthony

    Biggest mistake 90% of the Posters here are making?

    Pretending there actually is a Left/Right Paradigm.

    All of you need to do a lot more homework before you get on here to discuss much of anything… Seriously!

    Check around if ya like – but many times I’ve seen Reporters and Others comment onhow the who Media Show of fighting political parties completely disappears after suppertime arrives… and almost all of that, is off camera…. for a reason.

    Wake up, Sheeple!

    • kate8

      Anthony, may of us are fully aware that left and right don’t actually exist at the higher levels of governance. Even the local governments have pretty much been taken over by the global corporatists, with one main agenda of centralized control.

      But among us rank and file citizens, the left/right differences in idiologies is very much at issue, mostly due to those influenced by
      socialist indoctrination. They are the ones who support the destruction of American values, fall for hoaxes like global warming, and who are cheering in the move to world government.

      There is a struggle going on at every level. We can only deal with what confronts us on a day by day basis, and share information with one another so that we can make more informed choices.

      I’d love to have us all band together and become as focused, well-organized and well trained as the Alinski-ites. And we would have truth and liberty as our banner. Truth always ultimately prevails.

      • JeffH

        kate8, very well said…there are some that are staying focused and others that are still confused with the right/left thing. Share info and ideas, solve what political problems we face here at home(America) and that can slow down or stop the global infringement from fully infecting our society.

      • tim

        Ideology, is the correct spelling………just trying to help out………

        • JeffH

          Thanks but No Thanks!

          As Alinsky taught: “One of the factors that changes what you can and can’t communicate is relationships. There are sensitive areas that one does not touch until there is a strong personal relationship based on common involvements. Otherwise the other party turns off and literally does not hear….” No trust!

    • denniso

      Sorry Anthony, but you’re being a little simplistic. It’s true that left and right power brokers at the top share the traits of wealth and
      deal making…that doesn’t make them the same people though. They still mostly adhere to their political and philosophical positions and particular world views. Most of them still work for the type of society and world they believe in and generally the liberals and conservatives are on opposite sides. Sure they often work together,because they know that the security and health of the whole country is at stake.
      I think your view,held by many others as well, is true for some small minority of the politicians and kingkmakers, but not for most. Anymore
      then there isn’t a real left/right schism right here. I do think that we fall into the labels too readily and then categorically dismiss reasonable people on the other side and stop looking for commonality,
      which does no one or the country any good.

      • Right Wing

        You are schizophrenic denniso. Virtually every post of yours is aimed at denigrating people’s perspective other than your own. Every once in a while you throw some neutral statement out to engage meaningful discussion but any sense of trust you might gain is all but gone. You are an anomaly here…a poisonous toad. I and most others here simply do not believe that you have any desire to understand a conservative leaning ideology…period. So go on home and fester in your dank cave until a new article posts for you to exercise your dim-witted commentary.

        • denniso

          No,you’re wrong…you’ve just shown your ‘conservative’ mind…most of you don’t debate the issues and just launch personal attacks. You have so little substance to base your ‘beliefs’ on that you quickly resort to name calling and personal smears,like you just did, and like your heros Limbaugh and Savage and O’Reilly and Beck.

          All I said to Anthony was that his argument is a little simplistic,and I didn’t disagree entirely w/ him. You go off on a personal attack on me like you’ve been attacked,which you weren’t. Cool it dude. I wonder who the real ‘toad’ is here?

          • Right Wing

            Put the nitro under your tongue denise, you still have until November to feel useful. I almost feel bad for having made you cry…not really.

    • tim

      There are the same Power Brokers in both Parties……..YES, their ideology might be different……..but, as we’ve seen more in recent years, the Lobbyists will pay ANY legislator, as long as their influence is advanced………….

  • American Liberal

    41…. Were gonna be in power for a while…. When you can get some rightwing Larry the Cable Guy elected then you’ll be calling the shots….. But the election winners set the agenda.. It’s always been that way…. So until then were calling the shots….. And I don’t really care if you like it… Just like you didn’t care what I thought about Bush…. It wad tough then and now it’s tough for you….so too bad

    • Raggs

      Really lib… get a life.
      And no forget it you cant have mine… loser…

      • denniso

        American Liberal is right, obviously. We won, you lost…get over it. The rightwing,led by the hater in chief Limbaugh,are just sore losers.
        Now, how in hell they thought they could win another presidential election after 8yrs of the dumbest and most disastrous president ever, is beyond all reason. We had to suffer w/ Shrub in power wrecking the world, like a little kid turned lose w/ a box of matches.
        Now you people can work to try to regain power,but in the meantime it would be good of you to shut up and do your work like adults.

        • angel-wanna-be

          Denniso, Oh the only reason you get so ticked off at us Conservatives, because you libs don’t have a Limbaugh!!__
          Hey_ have a great night!

      • angel-wanna-be

        Raggs, these Libby Sheep are just like their Messiah and Thief, Didn’t Obama tell John McCain, the elections over, we won!
        It’s all win or lose with these Liberals bleeps, no intellectual info, just BS!

  • Raggs

    This country is down to the nut-cutting.
    The progressive / marxist obama movement are at thoughts they have every right to control the fundamentals of our lives. This comes with the backing from all rouge nations such as China, Russia and Cuba
    North Korea and of course Iraq. Not to mention Egypt and the muslim nations support obama for his radical agenda.

    If you think you have seen something by the purchase of health care and the auto industries, banks and the private sector in this country.
    Well friend you have not seen anything yet!

    obamas radical movement will consume every aspect of your being through a government program… And yes i mean you.
    A global program…

    The EU is nothing… It will deminish and sprout from the US under the cloak of a world leader.

    You have no idea that everything he is doing is a distraction to confuse you and to turn you into a puppet easily consumed by his word of death.

    Go and cry… shed your tears of hate… But keep one thing in mind.
    He flurishes on your fear.

    • kate8

      Henry Kissinger: “Obama being groomed to head up the New World Order”.

      • denniso

        First,I doubt that Kissinger actually said that…secondly, who cares
        what he says anyway?

  • angel-wanna-be

    Kagan is going to say and do whatever Bambi tells her to do. Dems or Repubs alike, don’t pick people they’d be in opposition with. And Nothing this Administration does, is for the good of the people. It’s about control! Every aspect of our lives, from the food we eat, to the air we breathe, to the Courts, and the people they “pick” for Supreme Court Justice. It’s about control!!! Kagan was already involved in writing articles about the role in Government in the regulation of free speech. It hides under the title Of “Regulation of Hate Speech and Pornography After R.A.V”
    Read up folks!!!

  • chuck b

    the disturbing thing about the nomination of kagan is leaves the supreme court with 6 catholics and three jews. i think the founding fathers would have no part of this. this does not represent the makeup of this nation.

    • angel-wanna-be

      Chuck B, I think your exactly right!__

    • denniso

      Religion is not supposed to matter, is it? Do you think all Catholics think the same way? Do we have to have a balance based on religion now? How about having a Buddhist,a Muslim,an atheist,a Hindu,a Deist,an Evangelical,a Baptist,a Pagan…where would you stop the search for religious balance? Don’t you see it’s a ridiculous idea and couldn’t possibly work? Balancing ethnic,gender and racial backgrounds makes sense because they actually come w/ different perspectives on life and society.

      • chuck b

        denniso

        the founding fathers would not have allowed a jew or catholic on the supreme court, there were no muslims in the country so they were not an issue. there past experience with the catholic church in france would have squelched that problem. jews were not allowed period. each group is influenced by their religion. this was a protestant country at the beginning. whether you want to believe that or not. go back and read your history if you can find a book that hasn’t been tainted by the liberal media. it wasn’t to long ago jews were not allowed in country clubs and the same applied to catholics in some respect.the masons influenced a lot of our politics for a long time.

        • denniso

          And, do you have a point? Are you trying to say in your convoluted way
          that we should have no jews or catholics on the Court because the founders would not have allowed it? If that’s your idea of an originalist view on the constitution, then that’s pretty ridiculous.
          Let’s hope that’s not what you’re saying….

  • http://gmail i41

    a lib,you really don’t or cann’t think, no mind over matter, you have no mind and you don’t really matter. Are you trying to say it would not be a good idea to drill in the Rocky Mt. states or drill in the Great Plains? I know it is out of your concrete comfort zone, a skunk might try to bond with you, with your yellow stripes and your liberal stench. Sorry I forgot you are a non productive organism, usually refered as a leech. Where is your employment or do you just live off of taxpaters money, your mama, or as most people guess, that you are a lazy welfare rat. Some working taxpayer has to pay for your socialist marxists welfare dream world plans. Since you don’t want to or will not work and don’t care for our capitalist style of life, gather your numnutted group of dinks and go to China, Russia, N Korea, or since you like dictators go to visit uncle Chavez, they love your veiws.

    • denniso

      What a great and rational discussion of the issues…

      • tim

        Science……..is a Bad word to some people…………..But Religion is all well and good…….especially, when it stops science, from coming up with cures of disease……….

  • http://GOGGLE vaksal

    WELL I HAVE TO AGREE WITH THE OUTLOOK FROM AMERICAN LIBERAL,WE SHOULD NOT DRILL IN THE ROCKY MOUNTAINS,WE SHOULD DRILL IMMEDATELY INTO AMERICAN LIBERALS HEAD FOR HE IS FULL OF NATURAL GAS AND IT LOOKS LIKE THE BIGGEST STRIKE EVER DISCOVERED,BUT SADLY THEIR IS NO MARKET,BUT I MUST SAY HE IS LOADED WITH HIS LIBERAL COMMUNIST OUTLOOK,AND THATS DAM THE THRUTH AND SPREAD HIS GREAT WEALTH WITH EVERYONE,OH SORRY THERE IS NO MARKET HERE IN THE U.S.A. BEST GO OVERSEAS TO SUDAN THEY WILL LOVE YOU,YUM,YUM,AN AMERICAN LEFT WING RADICAL ON SALE TODAY,PRICE 1 CENTAVO. SORRY THATS MEXICAN MONEY,BEST THROW IT AWAY,IT STINKS!

    • denniso

      So much energy lost on mindless ranting rather than discussing and debating w/ a little intelligence.

  • http://herringtons.home.mindspring.com lighterknot

    The reason the country didn’t go with Oppenheimer, Einstein and other competent minds trying to impede the development of nuclear weapons instead of politicians with imperial conquest on their minds is obvious. The general masses have never thought in the abstract and were lead to insist on false security – a real live Savior so to speak.
    Now unfortunately; there is no control over nuclear proliferation; even if we could establish a world government which we must I’m sad to say.
    So what dose the average American believe; the problem just don’t exists; along with global warming, pollution and epidemic health problems because of it. No they believe God is in control and Jesus Christ will defeat evil here on earth and establish his utopia (heaven) which of course won’t include anything but the USA certainly no world heaven for all humanity.
    And you say I’m naive, surreal and living in fairyland. You are pathetic.

    • angel-wanna-be

      Lighterknot, For one thing America and those that can afford to develop it, cannot afford to drop Nuclear Weapons completely, It would leave us too vulnerable. And if you think your kindly neighbors, such as Iran, wouldn’t just love to take a shot at us, your living in a dream world too!__ And What global warming?_It’s theory, nothings been proven, the only one getting rich on the theory, is Al Gore and you sheep are helping him.!__and Pollution?__Buddy boy, where we live the, Enviro-wack jobs, Government tax and regulation, have done a fine job of destorying every industry we had here!__and the jobs went with it!__If you don’t punch a cash register, deliver the mail or UPS or into computers for jobs, in the service or college, your screwed for a job!–What pollution my friend???__I hope your not going to try and blame the failed hysteria pandemic H1N1, on Global warming, Your the one living in a fairyland!___ If you think living here IS SO DANGEROUS, take your veggie burgers, clean air in house ionizers, allergan masks, gloves, and your freakin’ hand sanitizers and all your information on how bad we are, in treating the world and rocket your azz to mars!__I hear the little GREEN men are lonely and are enviro-wack jobs too!

    • JeffH

      I think you just answered any questions about who and what you are all about! Pathetic? NO! Real? Yes! You’ve spent way to much time listening to the White Rabbit and sleeping on your surealistic pillow!

  • Right Wing

    Right Wing says:
    May 19, 2010 at 5:17 am

    “I will make a prediction that this article will draw full attention from the libs for two reasons. 1.) their attention to supporting incumbents in the primaries is on hold (FAIL). 2.) the topic concerns something gay. Most of the posts for the last few articles have been devoid of liberal slants but mark my words…they are crying and here they come.”

    The libs sure are stirred up! I don’t know about you but the “fringe” tea party seems to have had a majority influence. Crawl back to your spider holes libs…the rightys are on the march.

    • JeffH

      OOH RAH!

    • angel-wanna-be

      Right Wing, At’s what I’m talkin’ ’bout!!

  • http://Micahfour@aol.com Micah

    The March Of The Titans

    The complete and comprehensive history of the White Race, spanning 350 centuries of tumultuous events.

    This is their incredible story – of vast visions, empires, achievements, triumphs against staggering odds, reckless blunders, crushing defeats and stupendous struggles

  • JeffH

    Thought I’d provide the latest Presidential approval poll from Rassmussen, May 20, 2010…Obama’s approval ratings is in an out-of-control downward spiral.

    The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Thursday shows that 26% of the nation’s voters Strongly Approve of the way that Barack Obama is performing his role as president. Forty-two percent (42%) Strongly Disapprove, giving Obama a Presidential Approval Index rating of -16

    • denniso

      You omitted the number for his overall approval, naturally,since you want to make him look as bad as possible. The last poll for general approval was 51%, not bad for the country being in the worst recession since ’29…another crash that occurred during a Republican
      administration.
      Besides, do you forget Bush’s worst in history poll numbers and his repeated response? He wasn’t going to govern by the polls…
      Wise up and be a little honest,JeffH.

      • JeffH

        Idiot! Figure it out yourself! 51 what? Only in your dreams.

        Thirty-nine percent (39%) say the president is doing a good or an excellent job handling economic issues while 45% say he is doing a poor job (see crosstabs and trends).

        • denniso

          More name calling again….

          • JeffH

            Honesty is not name calling, it is fact…

  • JeffH

    kate8, “Kissinger Again Shills Obama and the New World Order”

    kate8 says:
    May 19, 2010 at 9:20 pm
    Henry Kissinger: “Obama being groomed to head up the New World Order”.

    Obama the manufactured messiah out of nowhere, Kissinger writes, is the answer. “The extraordinary impact of the president-elect on the imagination of humanity is an important element in shaping a new world order.”

    Obama was selected by the global elite Kissinger so faithfully serves to push the New World Order scheme, misleadingly defined by Kissinger as “an opportunity, not a policy.” Kissinger’s primary goal is to shill for world government. He is a member of the Council on Foreign Relations, the Trilateral Commission, and the Bilderberg Group. In the late 1920’s, financing for the CFR came from the Rockefeller Foundation and the Carnegie Foundation.

    “The most powerful clique in these elitist groups have one objective in common — they want to bring about the surrender of the sovereignty of the national independence of the United States,” explained Rear Admiral Chester Ward, a former CFR member. “A second clique of international members in the CFR comprises the Wall Street international bankers and their key agents. Primarily, they want the world banking monopoly from whatever power ends up in the control of global government.”

    Kissinger is merely informing us of the plan his masters have had in mind now for more than sixty years. Obama will be the front man the globalists will use to usher in the New World Order, a phrase coined by H.G. Wells when he used it as the title of a book about a socialist one-world government future.
    http://www.infowars.com/kissinger-again-shills-obama-and-the-new-world-order/

    • JeffH

      The On-Going Conspiracy To Create A One World Dictatorship

      “The CFR is the establishment. Not only does it have influence and power in key decision-making positions at the highest levels of government to apply pressure from above, but it also finances and uses individuals and groups to bring pressure from below, to justify the high level decisions for converting the U.S. from a sovereign Constitution Republic into a servile member of a one-world dictatorship.”

      – Congressman John R. Rarick

      “The most powerful clique in these elitist groups have one objective in common – they want to bring about the surrender of the sovereingty of the national independence of the United States. A second clique of international members in the CFR comprises the Wall Street international bankers and their key agents. Primarily, they want the world banking monopoly from whatever power ends up in the control of global government.”

      – Rear Admiral Chester Ward, a former member of the CFR for 16 years

      http://www.remnantofyhwh.com/cfr.htm

      • JeffH

        Control of Media
        In his book, The Rockefeller File, free-lance journalist and bestselling author Gary Allen declared, “Rockefeller gang’s plans for monopolistic World Government are never, but never, discussed in the machines of mass misinformation.” By now you probably already know why you haven’t heard of the Hidden Evil, or the coming socialist dictatorship in mainstream news. The people who are installing it control the media. “Why don’t investigative news shows like Sixty Minutes … tackle the … Trilateralist-CFR hold on our government,” asks Perloff. “Surely such material would have sufficient audience appeal.”
        http://www.thehiddenevil.com/media.asp

        • denniso

          Your freelance ‘journalist’ is a joke, the one world gov’t is a hoax and you’re a sucker…

          • JeffH

            Audiences are always better pleased with a smart retort, some joke or epigram, than with any amount of reasoning.

    • tim

      Where do I begin with Henry Kissinger………???

      • JeffH

        Silently!

      • WarriorH

        Sorry Tim -but your guy is a fraud– No history of ANY Accomplishments. Period!!! Give it up, either you’re an American or not. Your decision.

        • timr

          Warrior………….I’m an American and so are YOU and so is Obama, and so is Bush and so is Palin and so is Cheney and so is Don King…………….especially Don King…………

          • Claire

            I am sick and tired of hearing about how great this administration is. They don’t have the backbone of a slug. Look at this oil mess!! Instead of screwing around with their so-called pitiful agendas they should be getting down to brass tacks and getting this oil mess cleaned up. Why are they kissing up to BP? If I were in charge I would be all over BP’s back like bees on honey. They should not do offshore drilling unless they have the capability and the wherewithal to prevent these disasters. I am sick of the government’s lack of responsibility when it concerns matters of disaster. Where are all the brains/knowledge in these oil companies? In their rectums? How dare they conduct this type of work if they do not have the ability to prevent these disasters? These head honchos are a bunch of pathetic losers. They are hellbent on ruining everything.

          • Bob Wire

            Now Claire, you knew Obama is not an oil man right? But the president.

            Dick Chaney and the oil companies have told the American people certain things and made agreement as to what is acceptable and possible. And it worked more or less up until this point. Can we agree to that?

            Obama is the “ONLY” person that has stood up and openly taken the responsibility for what has occurred in the Gulf.

            The only one! So stone him if you must, he is stand still and open to your insults and disfavor. He will not dodge or move so he’ll be easy to hit with any blame you or everyone else throws.

            But let’s be clear about this, we depended and trusted on people that has the greatest experience in this area of endeavor, the only weak spot in governments decision is the failure to accept the endeavor is “profit motive driven” and pressures of time/profits cause management to do the unthinkable, offering motives to Side step prudence and compromise the integrity of the task at hand.

            If you want to “hurt” someone over this, as many of us do, fine ! But make your rock count and hit the right target.

  • http://herringtons.home.mindspring.com lighterknot

    As I said the great majorities are not abstract thinkers; that goes double for god fearing conservatives. Liberals are a close second… I don’t belong in ether camp Im damn sure not a libertarian. I don’t promote what I see I simply tell it as I see it. The reality is; you can’t be moral and condone weapons of mass destruction – not for any reason. To have the country you want; at least the pretense of morality must be the law of the land. Now get your head from up your behind and reason. The law must be moral and humane, it can’t be ether one, with these weapons in our arsenals. So its world government or back to morality and the peaceful world we want…and don’t say it’s the other countries when we are the T-rex on the global campus.

    • JeffH

      Oh what a complex web we weave…You want real?…as long as “life” inhabits earth there will never be peace and tranquility…now untie your knot, climb aboard your Unicorn and head to the nearest Rainbow.

      • libertytrain

        JeffH per your “as long as “life” inhabits earth there will never be peace and tranquility” – I couldn’t agree with you more and have been saying that for years.

        • JeffH

          Libertytrain, I ,too often, use the word “man” when in fact I mean all life forms.

          • Bob Wire

            How noble of you Jeff, to bring down the rest of life to your level.

            “It good that war is so terrible or we’d develop a fondness for it”
            Robert E Lee

    • American Citizen

      The truth is, there will always be wars and rumors of wars and we need to keep an arsenal in order to protect ourselves, if not to dissuade those who want to attack us.

    • Bob Wire

      lighterknot, they void the vision and can not see, only to accept “all things” on “their level” . Their level being the “only level” there is no other, no options, no compromise. Being Left with only one decision to made, ” how might I use or destroy this” for anything perceive as “new” or “different” not permitted and unacceptable. The dark ages were comprised of much the same stale notions. It takes the curse of a blessed Plague and a million deaths to rid such thoughts from men’s souls and minds. In their darkest hour they must confess ~ I want to live! I want to be happy!

  • dave h

    Not sure if anyone responded to SiliconDoc’s comment about the “scalping savages.” But history shows it was the white European invaders who initiated the practice of scalping, which they happily performed on the natives.

    • denniso

      Silicone made all sorts of disparaging comments about Native Americans,all of which were wrong. He’s trying to make them look bad so that the white majority looks better. Silly and hurtful at the same time.

  • http://herringtons.home.mindspring.com lighterknot

    Oh well; that was to be expected; why bother to try and live under any law, let anarchy reign, Toss your bible and the constitution in the trash it dose folks like you no good – all you live in is your know it all cage between your ears – scared shitless of any kind of reason. Well let anarchy be; maybe I’ll have a chance to come up side your head with my knot. But I won’t harm your child to do it.

    • JeffH

      Musta been one heck of a long trip back….to space mountain

  • Joe

    Frankly, anybody that Obama would put on our supreme court is someone I personally wouldn’t have a whits bit of faith in. Obama has demonstrated again and again that he has no respect for America and certainly not for our people. His “re-make” America ideology has proven to be nothing but attack after attack on this country.

    Having said that, I have a sister that thinks anybody who doesn’t worship Obama and revel in the idea that “for the first time in history the American people voted for a ‘black’ man” as the only truly matter of importance in America. is a racist. In the offhand chance that Kagan does not get the job, maybe my sister would be available. Seems to me they are both cut from the same ideological cloth and having no regard fore truth, honest justice political integrity, I am sure she is equally qualified

    • denniso

      I pity your poor sister for having a brother who trashes her in public to total strangers.

      • Bob Wire

        lucky girl ugh?

  • http://netaddress.com Doc Adams

    The assertion that Kagan is “qualified” begs the question that she has never sat a bench…i.e., never been a judge. She is an Administration lapdog, and nothing more.

    Our Supreme Court has been stacked by those who would destroy the Constitution of the United States, and this is just one more chink in the armor of that great document.

    I don’t think there is room for any more radicals on the court. I am encouraging the Senate to disqualify her.

  • Earl, QUEENS, NY

    It’s bad enough that some RINOs and wimps within the GOP go along with the flat earth – no growth environmentalist wackos, and voted for TARP bailouts. But this is worse, as a leftwing radical in the SCOTUS will have consequences long after we (hopefully) win back Congress and The White House in 2010 and 2012. As I often say, I believe republicans are the lesser of 2 evils at least 99% of the time in general elections. However, we should monitor this Kagan confirmation closely, and urge all 41 GOP senators to oppose this radical leftist. And if they will not vote to filibuster her confirmation, we should do everything we can to defeat these RINOs and wimps in their next primary cycles!!

    • denniso

      Sure, vote out all the Repubs w/ any political experience…

      And, just where is Kagan ‘radical’?

  • Rubber Duck

    The words SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE ARE NOT IN THE CONSTITUTION!!! Have NEVER been in the Constitution, Read it for yourself. The liberal left has used these words to attack the Church, Christians, and God in their ongoing efforts to DESTROY EVERYTHING THAT HAS MADE THIS COUNTRY GREAT!! The left supports everything that is destroying AMERICA, Homosexuals, Abortion (Baby Murder), the left promotes casual sex for all, when Decent people want to block pornography on library computers so small children won’t be exposed to this FILTH, THE LIBERAL LEFT FIGHTS AGAINST IT. This administration has already passed a special law that basically says anything AGAINST OR ABOUT SEXUAL PERVERTS, IS A HATE CRIME,WHAT KIND OF PSYCHOTIC SCUM COULD DO THIS, THIS IS JUST A FEW EXAMPLES OF WHO THE LIBERAL LEFT ARE, like Rush Limbaugh say’s (THE LEFT CAN’T TELL PEOPLE WHO THEY REALLY ARE,BECAUSE NO ONE WOULD EVER VOTE FOR THEM AGAIN. Obama has appointed a Czar that openly talks about GIVING SPECIAL RIGHTS TO HOMOSEXUALS. SPECIAL RIGHTS ARE NOT IN THE CONSTITUTION AND THAT EVEN (NORMAL PEOPLE)DON’T HAVE, HOW ULTRA-SICK IS THAT, YET AGAIN THIS IS WHO THE LIBERAL LEFT IS, THEY USE THE WORD LIBERAL,BUT THE DEFINITION OF LIBERAL IS AS FOREIGN TO THESE PEOPLE AS DECENCY,MORALITY,AND COMMON SENSE,and THEIR DEFINITION OF THESE WORDS IS AS SICK AND TWISTED AS THEIR CORRUPT AGENDA FOR AMERICA!! THANK YOU OBAMA,BIDEN,PELOSI,AND REID. LET ME TELL YOU AGAIN (WHAT IS THE GREATEST POLITICAL PARTY SYMBOL EVER, THE JACKA$$). HERE WE HAVE LIVING PROOF THAT THE LUNATIC FRINGE OF THE JACKA$$ PARTY IS IN CONTROL OF AMERICA!!!!!

  • Bob Wire

    >>like Rush Limbaugh say’s (THE LEFT CAN’T TELL PEOPLE WHO THEY REALLY ARE,BECAUSE NO ONE WOULD EVER VOTE FOR THEM AGAIN.<<

    and the American people are so "dumb" they can't figure it out for themselves So it left up to the all wise , all knowing and all seeing Rush to tell them!

    Did I frame that right? Hmm? nice to be brought up to speed ~ and so quickly too! I feel much wiser now!

  • Bob Wire

    >>>The words SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE ARE NOT IN THE CONSTITUTION!!! Have NEVER been in the Constitution, Read it for yourself.<<<

    So it's words that you are stuck on? So your the guy that keeps attorneys in business. The words that convey intent, the intent of separation.

    and it not "liberals" that attack anything, but anyone with the conviction that sees the church extending beyond it boundaries. Much like Government, the Church too grows, and from time to time requires "punning" call it an attack or suggesting so unholy act is an effort on "some people part" to defend advancement of the church into state business. ~ In your case, Your painting "any liberal thought" with a nasty unChristian paint, not to defend church , but only to attack anyone practicing progressive thinking. This is your nature, this your purpose.

    If not for evil doer's and zealots among us, no laws would be required.

    Separation of church and state
    From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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    Reflecting a concept often credited in its original form to the English political philosopher John Locke,[1] the phrase separation of church and state is generally traced to the letter written by Thomas Jefferson in 1802 to the Danbury Baptists, in which he referred to the First Amendment to the United States Constitution as creating a "wall of separation" between church and state.[2] The phrase was quoted by the United States Supreme Court first in 1878, and then in a series of cases starting in 1947. This led to increased popular and political discussion of the concept.

    The constitution states, "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof." Both the free exercise clause and the establishment clause place restrictions on the government concerning laws they pass or interfering with religion. No restrictions are placed on religions except perhaps that a religious denomination cannot become the state religion.

    However, currently the implied common meaning and the use of the metaphor is strictly for the church staying out of the state's business. The opposite meaning essentially cannot be found in the media, the judiciary, or in public debate and is not any part of the agenda of the ACLU or the judiciary.

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