Support For 2nd Amendment-Supporting Florida Sheriff Grows As Trial Date Nears


In early June, Liberty County, Fla., Sheriff Nick Finch was arrested for official misconduct and suspended from office by Governor Rick Scott.

The sheriff’s offense? He set free a man who’d been arrested for carrying a firearm without a permit during a routine traffic stop. The motorist, who was charged with carrying a concealed deadly weapon, was let go after Finch discussed what had happened with the man and his brother (who’d come to the jail to find out what had happened) and determining the arrested man had a 2nd Amendment right to have the firearm in his car.

Car carry is legal in Florida for those without a conceal-carry permit, but the law stipulates such firearms must be securely encased or not readily accessible for immediate use — two stipulations the suspect allegedly didn’t meet when he was pulled over in Liberty County. Finch, who reportedly  told the arresting deputy he “believed in 2nd Amendment rights,” returned the man’s confiscated weapon and, according to the Florida Department of Law Enforcement (FDLE), “destroyed or removed official arrest documents from the Liberty County Jail, making it appear as though an arrest never occurred.”

In a recent interview with Michael Lofti from the grass-roots journalism e-zine Ben Swann, Finch said he would “Absolutely not” do things differently if he could go back and relive the incident.

“I wouldn’t have done anything different,” he said. “Once I became aware of the arrest, I immediately called the clerk and told her not to book Parrish. I am a Desert Storm veteran. I took an oath to protect the Constitution in the army and again as a sheriff. The state is charging me with destroying documents, which never existed. They do not have a case.”

Finch said the fact that the State offered to drop the charges against him, if only he’d resign from office, strongly indicates a political, and not a judicial, motive behind his prosecution.

With Finch’s Sept. 30 trial date approaching, the case is being closely watched by local supporters and people nationwide concerned that the State is tightening its grip on citizens’ 2nd Amendment freedoms and the elected officials, like Finch, who would stand alongside the people to defend them.

Tea Party supporters, conservative law enforcement organizations and Constitutionalists from across the country are planning to attend an Aug. 24 fundraiser in Panama City, Fla., for Finch’s legal defense fund, which is also collecting money on a website administered by the Constitutional Sheriffs and Peace Officers Association.

Fred Brownbill of the Save America Foundation explained the importance of the Finch case in his call for people to attend the fundraising event.

As you know, the office of the county sheriff is under attack in many places.  The Constitutional sheriff is a threat to tyranny.  The duty of the Constitutional county sheriff is to protect and defend the Constitution and to interpose himself between his people and anyone who would violate their rights.

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Ben Bullard

Reconciling the concept of individual sovereignty with conscientious participation in the modern American political process is a continuing preoccupation for staff writer Ben Bullard. A former community newspaper writer, Bullard has closely observed the manner in which well-meaning small-town politicians and policy makers often accept, unthinkingly, their increasingly marginal role in shaping the quality of their own lives, as well as those of the people whom they serve. He argues that American public policy is plagued by inscrutable and corrupt motives on a national scale, a fundamental problem which individuals, families and communities must strive to solve. This, he argues, can be achieved only as Americans rediscover the principal role each citizen plays in enriching the welfare of our Republic.

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  • garygerke

    The man is hero and a Patriot!!!!!!!!!!!

    • Dan Mclendon

      No Gary the sheriff is no more than a criminal he tampered with evidence= Felony


        keep drinking your Kool-Aid you poor poor pitiful person

      • garygerke

        The law is illegal thus the investigation and evidence is flawed per the Constitution. An illegal law,rule or ordinance based on nothing more than an opinion is a non starter!

      • TheOriginalDaveH

        You’re a criminal, Dan, for aiding and abetting Unconstitutional behavior by Big Government.

  • wandamurline

    What is the email of the organization collecting the money….I cannot attend the fund raiser, but I sure can send some money to help.

    • Shorty Stuff

      h t t p s : //

      • wandamurline

        Thank you very much….will be mailing a check.

  • dan

    I can support Sherriff Finch in principle and in prayer….

  • me

    Kind proves he is not one of those hang everyone types of law enforcement officers. why not inform the citizen what he is doing wrong and send him on his way. I”ve seen a lot of the out to get everyone type and don’t actually have much respect for them. Seems it would be better for them to work on public relations with the public. Thats probly all finch did. I hope he wins his case.

  • bj

    This is freakin’ HEROIC by today’s standards!!!… Nick Finch has got more muster in his pinky than the entire congressional body.

    • Dan Mclendon

      BJ, LOL This was not just a traffic stop, the cop is NOT the judge and jury and should be fired for tampering. You assclown gun nuts will not be happy until you get all of us killed.

      • classy

        I’m surely not a gun nut but after reading your rants I may change my mind . You carcas would surely be a good place to start target practice. I’ll pray for your demented mind. The devil can have your sorry keester.

  • Jimmy the Greek

    I never case or unload my gun when i an in FLA . and i don’t have a permit F them

  • Debbie Hogan Tate

    We need more sheriffs like this and less of Obama’s henchmen interfering with the local, state and county governments! Why has Obama not been impeached yet??

  • Don’t Mess With Texas

    Every one needs to Protest on that trial date in support of the Sheriff and demand the resignation of Gov Scott….

    • Dan Mclendon

      Don’t you mean people need to make sure the sheriff is charged with obstruction then be fired. You asshat gun nuts bring shame to this country. Evidently not a damn 1 of you can read and comprehend. Keep running your mouth about the amendment so I can have a good laugh when it backfires in your face


        and we pity people of your mentality Don McClendon

      • Floyd

        These gun nuts have kept your lazy ass Free,, without them the 2nd admendant would be a distant memory..

      • Robbie

        Another school shooting at the beginning of the week and now another one just yesterday afternoon. Keep handin’ out them guns! Golly gosh dernit. You becha’.

        • TheOriginalDaveH

          Guns are illegal in schools. Too bad for the children who have paid the price for Liberal Progressive ignorance.

          Rampage killings around the world:

          What do they use in the absence of guns? Look at China’s rampage school killings.

          • Robbie

            Too bad any moron or nut case can buy a gun thanks to lax background check regulations. It won’t be too long before another mass shooting spree takes place.

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            I wouldn’t expect anything else from you, Robbie.
            The stats all prove that More Guns equal Less Crimes:

            And if you’d look at this history of violence, you will see that violent crimes were on the rise from 1962 to 1992 (which coincides with the increase of gun control laws after Kennedy’s assassination), and then after 1992 (which coincides roughly with the relaxation of gun controls), the violent crime rate has been on a steady decline, until now the rate is about 1/2 of what is was in 1992:
            Starting in about 1986 an increasing number of states started weakening the gun laws and allowing concealed carry with permits. In 1986 only 8 states allowed concealed carry with permits. By 2013 37 states had “Shall-Issue” concealed carry laws. And whereas in 1986 only 1 state allowed unrestricted concealed carry, now there are 5 states that allow unrestricted concealed carry:

            For Liberal Progressives to ignore all the evidence and push for more gun control basically makes you guys accessories to all the murders and assaults of innocent citizens who might have been able to protect themselves if not rendered defenseless by you ignorant people.
            What next? Going out into the wild and de-clawing all the lions, bears, and tigers?

          • Robbie

            Blow ’em away big guy!

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            No Robbie, that’s your role. You’re like the guys who hold the victim while their ring-leader pummels him.

          • Robbie

            You’re the one with the big guns big guy.

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            Are you just another personality of the Flashman? Or is it just that all Liberal Progressives are inane?

          • Robbie

            Blow ’em away!

          • Robbie

            Blow ’em away!

  • Brett Tedder

    Well I believe he did what any peace officer who believed in the Constitution should be doing. This might end up being some very good case law for future peace officers who would like to do the same. Good work Mr. Finch.

  • Robbie

    The sheriff is dead wrong. A driver was arrested by a police officer for breaking certain gun laws. The sheriff then decided that HE was going to be the judge and jury and let the offender go. Not only that the sheriff then destroyed official records of the arrest itself. This is unacceptable behaviour by the sheriff. The original police officer and the governor should be supported.

    • Major Domo

      You just don’t get it. The law itself is wrong.

      • Robbie

        Here’s what I get: elected legislators make the laws. Police – including the sheriff – are supposed to enforce the law. And the courts decide on constitutionality of laws. That’s what the founders who created the government system intended. A sheriff has no right to be judge and jury. This is elementary.

        • Don 2

          Oh, you mean like how Hussein Obama and Eric Holder pick and choose which laws that they want to enforce. I get it…..that is elementary, isn’t it?

          And let’s not mention anything about that silly little oath that they all took to uphold, the U.S. Constitution, which includes the 2nd. Amendment…..s-h-h-h…..quiet…..

          • Norma Wright

            WAY TO GO DON !!!

          • Dan Mclendon

            Don 2 are you really that much of a moron? This world will be a much better place after all of you bigots and raciest are dead and nothing but dust blowing around in the wind. And Don what’s elementary is your level of thought process= childlike

          • Major Domo

            Oh, so if we disagree with the potus or his minions you throw the race card tantrum?

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            Oh right, a condescending, name-calling Progressive calling others “childlike”.
            You’re a joke, Dan.

          • Don 2

            Hey Fat Boy,
            I’m holding up 3 fingers. Read between the lines!

        • Major Domo

          What the founders wanted and what we got are two different things.

          Washington Post Article:

          Yes, he told us in advance what he planned to do. Few were listening.

          The following is a narrative taken from a 2008 Sunday morning televised “Meet The Press’.

          From Sunday’s 07 Sept. 2008 11 : 48 : 04 EST, Televised “Meet the Press” THE THEN Senator Obama was asked about his stance on the American Flag. General Bill Gann’ USAF (ret.) asked Obama to explain WHY he doesn’t follow protocol when the National Anthem is played.

          The General stated to Obama that according to the United States Code, Title 36, Chapter 10, Sec. 171…

          During rendition of the national anthem, when the flag is displayed, all present (except those in uniform) are expected to stand at attention facing the flag with the right hand over the heart. Or, at the very least, “Stand and Face It”.

          NOW GET THIS !!
          ‘Senator Obama replied :

          “As I’ve said about the flag pin, I don’t want to be perceived as taking sides”. “There are a lot of people in the world to whom the American flag is a symbol of oppression..” “The anthem itself conveys a war-like message. You know, the bombs bursting in air and all that sort of thing.”

          (ARE YOU READY FOR THIS???)
          Obama continued :
          “The National Anthem should be ‘swapped’ for something less parochial and less bellicose. I like the song ‘I’d Like To Teach the World To Sing’. If that were our anthem, then, I might salute it. In my opinion, we should consider reinventing our National Anthem as well as ‘redesign’ our Flag to better offer our enemies hope and love. It’s my intention, if elected, to disarm America to the level of acceptance to our Middle East Brethren. If we, as a Nation of warring people, conduct ourselves like the nations of Islam, where peace prevails – – – perhaps a state or period of mutual accord could exist between our governments ….”

          When I become President, I will seek a pact of agreement to end hostilities between those who have been at war or in a state of enmity, and a freedom from disquieting oppressive thoughts. We as a Nation, have placed upon the nations of Islam, an unfair injustice which is WHY my wife disrespects the Flag and she and I have attended several flag burning ceremonies in the past”.

          “Of course now, I have found myself about to become the President of the United States and I have put my hatred aside. I will use my power to bring CHANGE to this Nation, and offer the people a new path.My wife and I look forward to becoming our Country’s First black Family. Indeed,CHANGE is about to OVERWHELM the United States of America ”

          Yes, you read it right.
          I, for one, am speechless!!!

          Dale Lindsborg , Washington Post

        • TheOriginalDaveH

          The Founders had among them the typical array of psychopathic Leaders who wanted to use their positions of Leadership to seek special privilege at the expense of the rest of the people. Some of the Founders were wise enough to try to thwart that reality for their posterity, but alas there are too many ignorant and naive people (or psychopathic shills), like yourself Robbie, to hold the line for any long period of time:

          “But today, Brutus would conclude that he had been far too optimistic. The federal government has grown orders of magnitudes larger than he could ever have imagined (in part because he was writing when only indirect taxes and the small federal government they could finance were possible, before the 16th Amendment opened the way for a federal income tax in 1913), far exceeding its constitutionally enumerated powers, despite the constraints of the Bill of Rights. The result burdens citizens beyond his worst nightmare”.

          • Robbie

            It’s an Amendment passed in accordance with the Constitution of the United States of America. The Founders were wise enough that things always change – nothing is permanent or good for all time and they took that in to account.

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            There is nothing wise about an Amendment allowing Government to grow almost at will at the expense of the citizens. Leaders have always known that the further they can remove Government from the people it supposedly represents, the less Power the people would have to stop the self-interested Leaders.
            In 1913, three events took place which greatly paved the way for Leviathan Government — The Federal Reserve Act, The 16th Amendment, and the 17th Amendment. It has been all downhill for Freedom since then.

          • Robbie

            To me America is better than ever. I find folks on this site really pessimistic and almost downtrodden.

    • ‘Barbara Messmer

      According to the sheriff, he prevented the records from being made. “The state is charging me with destroying documents, which never existed. ” The problem becomes one of not knowing exactly what the deputy saw or thought he saw that was against the law. The law states that the hand gun has to be “securely encased” or not “immediately” accessible. And it only applies if the individual is not going to or from a legal open carry activity. Securely encased under the law can be as simple as being snapped into a holster or laying in a shoe box with top on.

      • Robbie

        The most reliable witness would be the arresting police officer who saw the gun sitting on the car seat. The sheriff was not at the scene but acted simply based on being a gun lover himself. In any case an actual arrest WAS MADE which the sheriff decided to veto. The governor had the sheriff arrested for not upholding the law which he is sworn to do. Now it is up the court to decide the facts and outcome of this situation.

        • WTS/JAY

          Sheriff Finch believes the Second Amendment means what it says, that our Right to keep and bear arms SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED. It appears what Sheriff Finch did was well within his authority and in full compliance with the rules and regulations for records retention and destruction. It appears Sheriff Finch was trying to prevent the government from eroding our/your Liberty.

          Sheriff Finch made the decision to not pursue a charge against Floyd Parish, which appears to be well within the authority of the Sheriff to do. Upon making that decision, Sheriff Finch removed Parish’s file from the records and removed his name from the jail log. Attorney Kris Anne Hall says this was within his authority as well.

          • Dan Mclendon

            Sorry R. Smith. I have the amendment right here in front of me and it plainly states there are no definitive resolution by the court of just what right the 2nd Amendment protects. You saying a sheriff that obstructed evidence which is a felony was right in doing so? he tampered with evidence he should be fired and sent to trial, then jail. I hope all of you gun happy asshats stay in Fla. & Texas where both Governors have something in common there both assclowns that will be gone soon hopefully I know Perry will be gone and people in Fla are starting recall petitions for Scott.

          • Ron

            I am sorry that you feel this way, why don’t you just leave the country then seeing as how you don’t want or need the Freedom that our Founding Fathers put together and our sons and daughters have fought to protect. THe sherriff was right in what he did and the FDLE is wrong along with the governor.

          • WTS/JAY

            We are aware of the problem of handgun violence in this country, and we take seriously the concerns raised by the many amicus who believe that prohibition of handgun ownership is a solution. The Constitution leaves the District of Columbia a variety of tools for combating that problem, including some measures regulating handguns. But the enshrinement of constitutional rights necessarily takes certain policy choices off the table. These include the absolute prohibition of handguns held and used for self-defense in the home. Undoubtedly some think that the Second Amendment is outmoded in a society where our standing army is the pride of our Nation, where well-trained police forces provide personal security, and where gun violence is a serious problem. That is perhaps debatable, but what is not debatable is that it is not the role of this Court to pronounce the Second Amendment extinct. -Justice Antonin Scalia, for the majority in District of Columbia v Heller (U. S. Supreme Court 2008)

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            The “asshats” are you idiots who have sentenced thousands of men, women, and children to death by depriving them of the right to defend themselves. What’s it feel like, ignoramus, to be an accessory to murder?

        • Average_Joe56

          Nowhere in any of the articles about this case has it been mentioned that the firearm was on the seat…. and I live in Florida so I’ve read more about the case than most people that don’t live here.

          As a matter of fact…the arrest was supposedly for having a concealed weapon ( or did you miss that in the above article?)

          “The motorist, who was charged with carrying a concealed deadly weapon, was let go after Finch discussed what had happened with the man and his brother ”

          So, if it was concealed….it most likely…wasn’t on the seat…that’s in plain view.

          Next, let’s look at Florida vehicle/ firearms carry…..

          No Permit Required

          Relatively lenient regulations in the state of Florida allow gun owners over the age of 18 to carry a firearm in a vehicle with only minimal restrictions. According to Sheriff Mike Scott of Lee County, Florida, a gun owner may carry the weapon inside a private vehicle as long as it remains secured in the trunk, inside a gun case, inside a closed box or inside a closed glove compartment. Sheriff Scott also cites section five of Florida Statute 790.25 which specifies that gun owners may carry weapons in plain view when mounted in a gun rack in the rear window of a pickup truck.

          Read more:

          Now, considering the Florida vehicle carry law…the firearm MUST be inside of the glove box, gun case or in the trunk…therefore…it must be concealed…that’s the law.
          The motorist…TOLD the officer that he had a firearm in the vehicle….therefore, the officer had no idea that a firearm was present in the vehicle…until he was told….not on the seat in plain view…apparently.
          That means, that the motorist was detained ( not arrested) for following the law…and being courteous enough to notify the officer of the firearm’s presence in the vehicle.
          Also, something else not mentioned in this article. The deputy who notified the authorities…has been and is still under internal investigation for civil rights violations while performing his duties as a deputy. I am thinking hat this is retaliation….and I hope it bites this deputy in the a$$.

        • Dan Mclendon

          Robbie the Sheriff tampered with evidence and that’s a felony he should be fired and jailed. You gun nuts are a black eye on this countries face.

          • waytotheright

            What part of shall not be infringed don’t you understand.
            You are the black eye on this nation,calling those who support the constitution gun nuts.

    • WTS/JAY

      On June 4, agents of the Florida Department of Law Enforcement (FDLE) arrested Nick Finch, sheriff of Liberty County, Florida. About 11 p.m. the previous Friday night, May 31, four agents of the FDLE served a search warrant on employees of the Liberty County, Florida jail, seized arrest and booking documents, and issued subpoenas to the employees.

      Sheriff Finch, a veteran of the U.S. armed forces, was booked into his own county jail and later released on his own recognizance.

      After Sheriff Finch was released, Governor Rick Scott suspended Sheriff Finch and replaced him with an agent of the FDLE, the very agency that is investigating the case against the sheriff.

      According to the affidavit for arrest, Sheriff Finch is charged with one count of official misconduct as set forth in Florida State Statutes, Title 46, Chapter 838.022. That section defines the crime of official misconduct — a third degree felony — as follows:

      (1) It is unlawful for a public servant, with corrupt intent to obtain a benefit for any person or to cause harm to another, to:

      (a) Falsify, or cause another person to falsify, any official record or official document;

      (b) Conceal, cover up, destroy, mutilate, or alter any official record or official document or cause another person to perform such an act; or

      (c) Obstruct, delay, or prevent the communication of information relating to the commission of a felony that directly involves or affects the public agency or public entity served by the public servant.

      This reporter is also a constitutional attorney and recognizes not only the inadequacy of the arresting affidavit, but also that the key phrase in the crime of official misconduct is “with corrupt intent.”

      It should be noted at this point, that the man arrested by the deputy — Floyd Eugene Parrish — was never booked. He was merely being detained in a holding cell while the booking documents were being worked up by the jail administrative staff. A sheriff — any sheriff — may choose not to formally charge a detainee. Then, any documents related to that case may be destroyed as they are no longer legally required to be filed. Nothing Sheriff Finch did in this case is corrupt, illegal, unethical, or unheard of. Every single act falls well within the normal course of business for a county sheriff and a county jail.

      • TheProperWolf

        Right on. Not only does the Sheriff have that discretion; in the process of booking, if FL process is anything equivalent to NC’s arrests, an agent of the court (magistrate) also has some range of authority to let the guy go (if not actually throw the charges out) before his jail intake is complete. And in NC, as I know extremely well by professional experience, the process of booking can and often does take literally hours. Anybody who doubts this should ask any cop who’s ever had to walk an arrestee through a jail booking. And if a detention booking isn’t completed and signed off on, then it easily avoids the status of becoming an “official record”.

        So now (still?) a high-handed state official (whom the voters may not know at all) is in charge of law enforcement in this local jurisdiction. Go Florida. I’ve had my own experiences with FDLE, and I’d much rather trust my future with the average local constabulary than with some unknown (potential) bonehead from the state.

    • garygerke

      The current law in that jurisdiction is illegal per the 2nd amendment. You would split hairs in the Liberal agenda’s favor with the blessing’s of the crooked DOJ along with Obama’s illegal Presidency!

    • TheOriginalDaveH

      He broke gun laws which are against the Law, the Main Law of the Land, the Constitution.
      Robbie says — “Not only that the sheriff then destroyed official records of the arrest itself”.
      Where’d you learn to read, Robbie? Public Schools?
      From the article — “The state is charging me with destroying documents, which never existed”.
      Remind me to exclude all Liberal Progressives from my jury if I’m ever falsely accused.

      • Robbie

        I’ll go with the judgement of the original arresting officer who is a professional law enforcement officer as opposed to an elected sheriff newly in the post.

        • TheProperWolf

          The original arresting officer serves at the discretion of his boss, the Sheriff. The deputy improperly charged the citizen with concealed carry, which was the wrong charge (and therefore easily an improper arrest). This is EASILY a judgment call by the Sheriff, who is paid to make not just legal but also ethical or moral decisions like this one. The deputy messed up. The deputy wasn’t any more right than anybody else. Traffic and other citations are torn up & throw out all the time, all over the country (I’ve got 11+ years of personal experience on that). In just about every state the Sheriff is the second-highest enforcement authority in the state, exceeded only by the AG. He is elected by the local population, the most representative of all our election processes, and I’ll stand with the person whom the voters of that county know best (and could most easily get rid of if they so chose); the Sheriff. Not some deputy that most of the county may not even know.

  • John

    We need more Sheriffs like him. The governor needs to be monetarily punished and he certainly will not get my vote as I am buying a home in Florida.

    • Average_Joe56

      Agreed! BTW, welcome to the neighborhood!
      I live in west central Florida.

  • Johnmcf2

    Unless the sheriff is justly compensated and the Governor justly thrown in prison, nothing will be done to protect WE THE PEOPLE anymore. Tyranny will reign and this country will not be free anymore. You know, kind of like it is now but 1000 times worse. The lawless rules the land, what fun that will be.

  • Jeff

    Below, “robbie” states: “Here’s what I get: elected legislators make the laws. Police – including the sheriff – are supposed to enforce the law. And the courts decide on constitutionality of laws. That’s what the founders who created the government system intended. A sheriff has no right to be judge and jury. This is elementary.” Now, I’ll bet you dollars to donuts that Robbie didn’t ffel the same way about Zimmerman and ‘stand your ground’, and I’m guessing he’s giving millions of illegal aliens a ‘pass’ on the whole ‘against the law’ technicality…

    • Tony


      • garygerke

        You are right on with that comment, this Sheriff is upholding his oath he took to protect our rights given us by the Constitution.

  • Dlagwa

    Police(Peace Officer) and Sheriff Dept have a duty to preserve protect and defend the Constitution. The very first level of that duty is to interpret the laws they are ordered to enforce. If a law is unconstitutional the the officer should refuse to obey enforcing it. Just because a Judge interprets a law as Constitutional does NOT make it so. Also, a Jury is supposed to evaluate any law a defendant is being charged with as to it’s Constitutionality, they can nullify that law if they so choose. Judges have been failing to educate juries to this being one of their powers for several decades now.
    Read the Founding Fathers writings such as the Federalist and AntiFederalist papers, writing of Ben Franklin, Samuel Adams, Thomas Jefferson, just to name a few. A huge amount of misinformation has been foisted onto our children in the Federal school system, designed to help them consolidate power and keep We the People ignorant. We are the supreme political power in this country, not the legal system, or Feds or State. We just need to get off our backsides and learn the original intent of our Founding Fathers and how to use it to defend ourselves. Don’t let attorneys manipulate you into a system of law that has no accountability and no responsibility to Justice. Research how you sign a document to preserve your unalienable Rights under the Constitution. Start getting involved with organizations that research this information and become educated. Don’t take my word or anyone else’s. is a good one to start, CSPOA is another one.

  • ibn insha

    Constitution is clear, there are no exceptions, restrictions or conditions. People have the right to keep and bear arms. Period.

    • Jerry Morris

      All gun control laws are unconstitutional.
      What this Sheriff needs is a few jurors that know about jury nullification (but not let the judge know during jury selection or they’ll be dismissed)

    • Robbie

      There certainly is a condition. The right to bear arms is when you are part of a well regulated militia. Read the thing and don’t leave out the first bit.

      • TheOriginalDaveH

        Oh please, Robbie. Even the rabid anti-gunners have given up on that tactic.
        The Second Amendment:
        “A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed”.
        It doesn’t say the right of the Militia members. It says — “the right of the people”. Get it, Robbie?

        And even if the Second Amendment didn’t say that, the right to defend ourselves is a natural right which cannot legitimately be taken away by any Government of men.

        • Robbie

          Just read what it says. Thank you. If gun ownership was not part of being in a well regulated militia the Founders would not have written that.

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            Obviously you didn’t read the articles, Robbie. Are you afraid to learn something?

          • Robbie

            Sure I did. Did you read the Amendment? If the Founders had wanted any Tom, Dick, or Harry to be totting a gun they would have said something like: Any Tom, Dick, or Harry has the right to bear arms. But then the Founders were not stupid.

          • Butch Rudolph

            a militia is to be made up of the citizens of our country to protect themselves from our government if and when the time comes Robbie,, therefore the constitution guarantees every citizen the right to keep and bear arms,, use your head for something besides keepin yer ears apart for Christ sake

          • Robbie

            Butch: First of all is that your real name? Anyway, if you know anything at all about American history the Founders certainly were not concerned about “our government”. They were having problems – as you might recall – with a foreign imperial power over in England.

          • Steeloak

            Robbie, before you continue on in life mis-understanding the Second Amendment, here is a very thorough explanation for you to finally grasp it’s meaning.


          • Robbie

            Many of the contentions in the article are debatable to put it mildly.

      • oopsie1

        Robbie, if you are going to quote the Constitution at least quote it correctly. “A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a
        free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall
        not be infringed.” Notice State is capitalized. It refers to the necessity of free citizens to protect their state(and themselves, obviously) from an out of control federal government.

        • oopsie1

          The militia was a local group of arms owning citizens who had pledged their fidelity to protect their city, town or state, from outside intervention. It was not a federal body.

        • Robbie

          If you actually look at my posting you’ll see that I did not quote. I mentioned the condition. And, by the way, the Founders were opposing a foreign imperial power (England) not a federal government. They, in fact, set up the American federal system.

          • oopsie1

            The founders wrote the constitution after the war with England had already been won. The peace treaty was signed Sep 3 1783. Therefore, they were NOT opposing England any more. The Bill of Rights were not written until 1789 and adopted until 1791. Every one of them limits either state or federal powers. The second clearly limits both(A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free STATE, the right of a the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.) Put into simple words” In order to guarantee that you keep your freedom, and make sure that your state has able bodied, capable armed citizens to protect it and them.we are making it illegal for anyone to make ANY law that would limit your right to have and carry any arms”

          • Robbie

            I’m not fond of how you have twisted the wording.

          • oopsie1

            Tell me where I twisted the wording.

          • Robbie

            I’m going to partially retract. I’ve read your last sentence over a couple of times and have begun to find your interpretation rather interesting. Never seen it explained quite that way. Cheers.

          • oopsie1

            First of all, it’s necessary to ferret out the main topic of the sentence. You can drop everything up to the second comma and the sentence still makes sense, so that is the main topic. The rest is just explanation for WHY the citizens need to be armed.

  • beezwaxing

    I wouldn’t be so quick to condemn the Governor in this matter. Florida laws pertaining to firearms are not so easy to understand. I’m still not even sure that this story has the legal story straight.

    • TheOriginalDaveH

      Then produce your evidence for such.

  • ctroop

    Listen up beezwaxing. We should ALL be very quick to condemn this governor AND any and all laws every where that infringe on the 2nd amendment. The 2nd amendment is very simple and easy to understand. Laws that infringe on the right to keep and bear arms are ALWAYS “complicated” and deliberately so. God bless this sheriff for placing the constitution over such an unconstitutional law – and God DAMN all those who pass such laws and those who enforce them.

  • ctroop

    You are absolutely correct Jerry Morris!

  • ctroop

    ALL citizens should know and be ready to practice Jury Nullification. And NOT tell the judges durin the Voir Dier. Some might say, “but that would be dis-honest!” I say, So What? The judges are ALL lying in their teeth when they tell jurors that they cannot judge the law. They lie in their teeth when they tell jurors that they must render a guilty verdict IF the prosecution proves their case.
    The days when jurors feel compelled to convict someone to a 20 year sentence for having a “roach” in their pocket must come to a screeching halt!
    The United States Supreme Court has UPHELD the jurors right . . . nay … the jurors RESPONSIBILILTY to judge the law . . . as well as the facts of a case! We NEED to start doing that! EVEN if they pass “laws” against it. I hope the jurors will REFUSE to convict this sheriff and render a verdict of NOT GUILTY on ALL charges. Those that don’t like it can choke on it.

  • NotSo PC LisaLisa

    IfIf Florida Law States guns may be legally transported without a CCP if two conditions are met, and the charged did not meet those two conditions it means he both had a loaded gun within reach how was it wrong to charge the man with breaking the law? If you don’t like the laws change them, but how can the sheriff just up and decide which laws to uphold without anyone to answer to? If I were on the side of anti-gun laws I would be celebrating because you all seem to prefer a lawless community, and that will play well for their agenda. Maybe I missed something…

    • TheOriginalDaveH

      Because he has sworn an oath to uphold the Constitution, and the Florida laws don’t do that.

    • Fastrax

      NotSo PC LisaLisa, you may have missed just a little. What separates the USA from all other central governments throughout history is the US Constitution. Our Constitution is to be interpreted in the Common Law tradition, not in terms of Continental or European law, linked to Cannon Law of the Spanish and French Inquisitions- a tradutuin that goes back to Rome.. The IRS and Tax Court run on this foreign Law import to the USA. Regardless, under the Constitution there is a natural law presumption that Our Rights come from a/the Creator, period. You know, Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness (Property). So, in order to protect one’s Life, Liberty and Property, on occasion it might be necessary to have a gun, a knife, or long stick with a sharp point. We might also want these items to be close at hand when needed to be used. One should not have to wait for a politically correct somebody to approve. Remember the U.S. Cons- titution delimits the Central government from encroaching on the natural rights of citizens that it was actually set up by the States to protect. The Constitution is the Supreme Law of the Land. It trumps
      all subordinate law making, rule making, policy making, and the OPINIONS of media pundits- like consider this Lisa:

      “This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in Pursuance thereof: …shall be the supreme Law of the Land; and the Judges in every State shall be bound thereby, any thing in the Constitution or Laws of any State to the contrary notwithstanding.”

      The County Sheriff is the Common Law’s chief law-enforcement officer across our land, county by county. Go to the Common Law tradition of England and check it out. Thank God for Sheriff Fink and for those who like him, Think!

      • Fastrax

        Sry, its Sheriff Finch. Got it wrong. Well, ok, Sheriff Finch didn’t flinch to uphold his Oath. Ahh! That’s better.

  • PaulCarthage

    We have let the State and Federal Government nip away our constitutional rights for decades and it is now time to put a stop to it. We now have generations of citizens who believe you need a permit to own a pistol/gun. The 2nd clearly states any citizen has the right to keep and bear arms. The 2nd is just one of many rights being violated and we need it to stop. Do not comply, Nulification, join and support organizations that are doing their best to save our republic. This is the American Peoples Country not the oath beeaking fools we now have in our State and Federal capitols. They swore an oath to protect and defend the State and US Costitution and they betrayed our trust. They are Trators to this nation and should be treated as such.

  • TheOriginalDaveH

    Yay, Nick Finch. Stand Tall. Don’t let the creepy Progressives wear you down.

  • Ken

    If he is ever tgaken to trial, he should claim the “OBAMA” defense. This means he can follow or NOT follow what ever law he is hired to enforse, and make up a few as he goes along. Yes, sarcasm but this is exactly whjat the DOJ is presently doing. So the “alleged criminal” is going to be procecuted by the “actual criminal”. IRONIC, isn’t it?

  • antiliberal00

    It would appear that sheriff Finch is a good, decent and honorable man. Something the likes of Rick Scott and the rest of the progressives will never comprehend.
    It is good to know that at least one person in government is willing to uphold his oath of office. They are about as rare as unicorns.