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State Lawmakers Take Stand Against Abortion Funding

May 2, 2011 by  

State lawmakers take stand against abortion fundingSeveral States have bolstered their efforts to fight abortion after Federal lawmakers failed to defund Planned Parenthood earlier this month.

According to FOX News, Indiana, North Carolina, Texas, New Hampshire and Kansas are considering legislation that would slash funding for abortion providers. In Indiana, the House of Representatives voted on April 17 to cut $3 million in funding to Planned Parenthood, sending the bill to Governor Mitch Daniels' desk.

Critics of the measure argue that Indiana will lose $4 million in Federal Medicaid funding if Daniels approves the bill, the media outlet reported. GOP legislators have disputed that claim.

Daniels, a Republican, is among the rumored GOP candidates for the 2012 Presidential race. Former Pennsylvania Senator Rick Santorum, another potential candidate, recently called on Daniels to sign off on the anti-abortion bill.

"Public funds should not be used for that purpose," Santorum told CBS News.

In Texas, the Republican-led House has approved a law that would strip more than $60 million from its 2012 budget item dedicated to family planning services. However, GOP Senators have drafted their own version that cuts only $12 million.

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  • Vigilant

    “Critics of the measure argue that Indiana will lose $4 million in Federal Medicaid funding if Daniels approves the bill, the media outlet reported. GOP legislators have disputed that claim.”

    This is arguably the heart of the argument surrounding the de facto abrogation of the 10th Amendment. The states did it to themselves when they allowed Federal grants and “matching funds.” The Feds attach strings to everything they grant the states, and the greed of the states makes them beholden to the Feds. You might call it extortion and bribery.

    This situation reached a point where states counted on Fed. money as a fait accompli when preparing their budgets for Medicaid, education, etc. The Feds now feel the squeeze, and this is passed on to the states.

    Whatever the reason, NO government at any level has a moral right to fund abortions from taxpayers’ money. It’s about time something was done about it.

    • karolyn

      Planned Parenthood does NOT use Federal funds for abortions. Having had experience in preparing and implementing nonprofit budgets for 12 years of my employment history, I can tell you that there is plenty of oversight to insure that monies granted are used for what they are intended. Planned Parenthood does plenty more than just providing abortion services.

      • Jeff in OH

        Your right!! They teach people what to say so they can murder a young 13-14 year old’s baby. Also tells Pinps how to go through the process. They do nothing that’s good for anyone except launder money for the Demacrap party

      • newspooner

        It is an economic misdirection when any organization or company says that its use of funds is targeted so that “your” payment or contribution (or taxes) are used for one purpose but not another. If Planned Parenthood (inspired by Schicklgruber and Sanger) gets funds originating from taxes that are then spent to keep the organization functioning, it still results in enabling the organization to provide abortions, even it those funds were supposedly not to be used that way. Part of its function is providing abortions. Saying that certain dollars that come from taxes are spent for counseling and other benign services, while the dollars that are spent on abortions come from non-tax sources, is so naive or ridiculous that it is insulting to those who gave money or were taxed.

        • Angel

          I totally agree with both Jeff and newspooner. I believe some women were turned away as they wanted to go in for a free mammogram and was told that PP didn’t provide Mammograms. Mammograms are healthcare…abortions are NOT!

      • Vigilant

        karolyn,

        If you indeed have prepared budgets, then you must know what the term “fungible” means.

        Or did your non-profits take a magic marker and write a code on each dollar bill so they would know what it was being used for?

        Wake up to the real world. PP’s using the $$$ to help provide abortions. Ergo, they should be de-funded.

      • http://?? Joe H.

        karolyn,
        you worked on PPs budget??? If not, then you have no way to state that!!!! Remember, ACORN said they did nothing illegal regarding registering voters, yet they DID!!!!

      • meteorlady

        You are splitting hairs here. They get federal money, they supply abortion services. To do that they use the federal money to keep their doors open. Please don’t insult me with nits.

        Besides I object to one single cent of my tax dollars going to one of the most racist organizations in the country today. As far as abortions, there are many alternatives and I don’t need to pay for them as a tax payer. This is charity services and should be provided by private money not taxpayer funded.

      • Jay

        Hey Karolyn, dum dum, if Federal lawmakers failed to defund Planned Parenthood, then it can be logically assumed that they were receiving Federal funding to begin with!

        Having had experience in preparing and implementing nonprofit budgets for 12 years of my employment history, I can tell you that there is plenty of oversight to insure that monies granted are used for what they are intended.

        Karolyn, are you saying that you prepared and implemented non profit budgets for 12 years. Do you prepare and implemented a budget for planned parenthood as well? I’m assuming you haven’t, then how in heck would know anything about their budget allocations?

        Planned Parenthood does plenty more than just providing abortion services.

        Ya, so? Not exactly a revelation, but the gravy, as we all know, is in the butchering!!!

      • http://naver samurai

        Then why is the house voting on the No Taxpayer for Abortion Act? If they didn’t receive federal funding then they wouldn’t need to vote on this, now would they? Indiana has already had Mitch Daniels sign it and now Indiana won’t have to give them $3-4 million dollars. I can already see the unholy alliance of planned parenthood and the atheist communist looney liberal union comming into play her soon, but they will not prevail, as Indiana is simply going by the 10th Amendment and by “vox populai.” Good for our governor to want to take a stand and I hope many more states stand up to these morons. Another victory for the patriots of this country! FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

      • GregS

        karolyn, as most of the others above my post have said, if PP gets money from the government to turn on the lights, then that just frees up the other money that they have for abortions.

        Furthermore, ObummerCare is riddled with language which mandates funding for abortions. Since PP is the largest abortion provider in the galaxy, they will receive most of that funding, when it fully kicks in, if it is not repealed by then.

  • Jeff in OH

    I take my hat off to the states that are doing what Bahner The bone head would not do. How could we have won the election by a landslide just to move in a Rhino to lead it??? How sad

    • Eddie47d

      Jeff comes across as a supporter of those who want to legally kill abortion doctors which some on the right have been advocating. That would be like saying if there weren’t any abortion doctors there wouldn’t be any abortions. They will still happen but would be taken over by some back alley wanna a be hack. Trying to close down Planned Parenthood would create bigger problems for women seeking medical treatment especially in rural or poorer neighborhoods. Most hospitals and clinics these days are build to make money and not always in areas with easy access for some folks. Planned Parenthood fills an urgent needs for family planning(birth control and nutritional help). Making it harder for women to take care of them selves is a step backwards for the USA. We the taxpayer have to have oversight where those dollars are going yet abortion funding was cut off a long time ago. Those who make that choice of abortion do so with their own money or private donations. The right needs to be cautious in how they want to interfere in someones individual right,family planning or the personal responsibility of someone else.

      • Vigilant

        “Jeff comes across as a supporter of those who want to legally kill abortion doctors which some on the right have been advocating.”

        Eddie, what kind of a BS comment is that? I don’t know Jeff’s mind, but I DO know that there’s nothing in his comments that would substantiate your accusation. Sometimes you can be a real idiot!

        • Carlucci

          I didn’t see Jeff’s alleged comments either. Why do these lunkheads from the looney left make stuff up?

          • http://?? Joe H.

            Carlucci,
            Because they are all like kevin the teacher, IN DIRE NEED OF A READING COMPREHENSION COURSE!!!

          • Jay

            Ah yes, JoeH, our friend Kevin, I remember him! He had a problem with reading comprehension! Hey Joe, do you suppose their brothers? Or perhaps, they both attended the same school?

        • Jay

          Vigilant, you should know by now that Eddie boy purposely makes provocative statements in order to get a rise out of us! You see, he figures, if he can get us all emotional and angry, he can then lead us away from topic and into an all out mud slinging exchange! Isn’t that brilliant? Can you imagine the things eddie boy could actually achieve in life if he decided to use his evil genius for good?

        • http://naver samurai

          Sometimes? He’s a moron 24/7. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

          • Eddie47d

            Poor Samurai always thinks his toes are being stepped on.

          • http://naver samurai

            Sorry edduh, but I was describing you and your postings. I can care less what happens to my toes. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

      • JIBBS

        troll, and a liar! Thats what you are, always adding something to a comment that was not there before. You act like a high school punk…

      • Judy

        You can spout that garbage all day long but only you are going to believe it. People are waking up to the lies about PP & other such funding. If those same women need medical help there are plenty of MEDICAL facilities to take care of them. PP is in business to kill babies period & if you work for them you deserve to lose your job.

        • Robert Smith

          Actually Judy PP PREVENTS more abortions than any other organization by teaching young women about contraception and general OBGYN health.

          Sadly they will occor regardless of what the situation is with PP.

          Let’s hear it for the back alley butchery you are now screaming for.

          AND there will be more because the education won’t be there.

          That’s what you get for messing in the business of other people.

          Rob

          • barbm

            “Let’s hear it for the back alley butchery you are now screaming for.” well, the babies have NO chance so, if the mothers have at least some chance, they’ve got it better than the babies.

          • Allan Halbert

            I notice that liberals now want to give animals and the Earth civil rights. I guess unborn babies still don’t rise to the level of a rock.

          • http://?? Joe H.

            Robert,
            I don’t know what you are so concerned about, according to you they’re ALL ACORNS anyway!!!

          • Jay

            Oh Oh, here’s another left wing liar!

          • Eddie47d

            Allan; Humans kill pregnant animals all the time . Some purposely kills animals as soon as they are born or shortly after. So your concern is falling on deaf ears. If you want to talk about killing babies go have a chat with Lt. Calley and by golly they were already born.

          • http://naver samurai

            Sorry moron, but don’t they cover such things in sex ed classes? I know they covered these subject when I attended in the 1980′s, so whats your point? Always willing to support the rights of the murderer, but not the rights of the innocent. That’s real Joseph Mengele of you moron! FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

          • libertytrain

            eddie, Lt. Calley is your validation for what? That made no sense whatsoever.

          • Eddie47d

            How many babies were killed at My Lai? Dozens!

          • libertytrain

            I think it was a horrific time, and I lived through that time as well. But why are you going back to Vietnam when hundreds of thousands of babies are killed every year in this country? Go figure?

          • http://naver samurai

            That’s true edduh, but what is that compared to the 50 million that have been killed here, due to the libs abortion policies and irresponsibility of mothers? Just a question. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

    • barbm

      rino – republican in name only.

  • bob wire

    There is no Federal funding for abortion, as per the Hyde amendment.

    I don’t know about the state level, that’s for each state to decide I suppose.

    The GoP is quite simply using “budget shortfalls” as a pretext and added leverage to address social issues they wish to champion that flies in the face of personal liberties that permits government to reach inside every American’s bedroom with claims that government knows best!

    The GOP are claiming a saving of millions ~ while rewarding wall street and business billions for failure, folly and fraud!

    This crowd wants more little babies for the state to care for I suppose?

    We already have an under-employed class 40 million Americans strong that can’t sustain themselves without government assistance. And we want more! ???????? The jobs that should be provided by America’s commerce is quite simply not present today. It seems 3rd world country have made them a better offer while these industrial “owners” enjoy US markets, infrastructure and “security” that American and Tax payers money provides them!

    This setup is unsustainable. Something have got to give!

    It’s is not a pretty picture, ~ anyway one might look at it.

    There is no good or “right” answers my friends, but let us not attempt to piss down someones collar and tell them that it’s raining.

    • Cawmun Cents

      We will leave the pissing to the leftists,they are the best at doing just exactly that.

    • Vigilant

      BW says, “We already have an under-employed class 40 million Americans strong that can’t sustain themselves without government assistance. And we want more! ???????? The jobs that should be provided by America’s commerce is quite simply not present today. It seems 3rd world country have made them a better offer while these industrial “owners” enjoy US markets, infrastructure and “security” that American and Tax payers money provides them!”

      That’s what I call a cold-hearted rationalization for abortion.

      • Vigilant

        BW also says, “There is no Federal funding for abortion, as per the Hyde amendment.”

        Look up the word “fungible.” Can you or anyone else guarantee that no Federal taxpayers’ dollars are going to perform abortions?

        • Robert Smith

          From Vigilant: “Can you or anyone else guarantee that no Federal taxpayers’ dollars are going to perform abortions?”

          If it were REALLY there (rather than just empty ranting) it would be all over the right wing Fox network. They haven’t really shown anything because it isn’t there to show.

          Rob

          • http://?? Joe H.

            robert,
            Shut yur yap acorn, your sprouting a twig. wait, wasn’t it you that was supporting gay rights so hard???

          • http://naver samurai

            Then why is Congress voting on the No Taxpayer for Abortion Act to defund planned parenthood moron? If they weren’t getting any federal money, then they wouldn’t need to pass legislation against it, now would they? That’s really Joseph Goebbels of you. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

          • Jay

            Samurai, wasn’t Joseph Goebbel Hitler’s propaganda minister who’s famous for making the statement,”If you repeat a lie long enough it eventually becomes truth”?

          • http://naver samurai

            That’s true Jay, but the libs on this site are known for not being able to tell what is the truth and what is a lie. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

  • bob wire

    “In Texas, the Republican-led House has approved a law that would strip more than $60 million from its 2012 budget item dedicated to family planning services. However, GOP Senators have drafted their own version that cuts only $12 million.”

    State Senators?

    Dick Perry is responsible for a 5 million per year short fall in the state budget starting in 96, when he rewarded his friend that helped him get him elected ( much like Gov. Scott of Wisconsin )by tweaking with tax tables and shifting of the tax burden. ~ In 97 he was informed of this 5 million shortfall due to his “adjustment” and elected to ignore it, thinking no one would notice or remember. Ah ! conservatives, they are soooo clever! They can create problems then punish their adversaries all in one stroke of the pen and be “innocent” at the same time! I’m amazed that everyone is not a conservative!

    • http://marcum1@wildblue.net coal miner

      BOB WIRE

      BIN LADEN IS DEAD,DEAD,DEAD.
      BIN LADEN IS DEAD.OBAMA,YOU DID IT AGAIN

      BIN LADEN IS DEAD,DEAD,DEAD.
      BIN LADEN IS DEAD.OBAMA,YOU DID IT AGAIN

      BIN LADEN IS DEAD,DEAD,DEAD.
      BIN LADEN IS DEAD.OBAMA,YOU DID IT AGAIN

      BIN LADEN IS DEAD,DEAD,DEAD.
      BIN LADEN IS DEAD.OBAMA,YOU DID IT AGAIN

      • JIBBS

        Where is the body for proof, the government create lie’s to hide what they are reaaly doing. I don’t buy it.

        • Dennis Patrick

          Ooohh… my first DEATHER citing. Let’s all chant together “Release the long form death certificate! Release the long form death certificate!”

          • Jay

            That’s right Dennis, supposedly, they gave Bin laden burial at sea as soon as they shot him. Yup, for sure, all legit! No doubt about it! DUH!

          • http://naver samurai

            No body, no death. Plain and simple. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

          • Jazzabelle

            They’ll just have to wait until bin Laden has been missing for 7 years and then declare him legally dead.

            Oh wait….

      • Doc Sarvis

        President Obama as Commander in Chief did what Bush could not/would not do, that is take out that terrorist.

        • Carlucci

          I hate to burst your “praise to Obama” bubble. Apparently OBL has been dead for years. Check this out – Benazir Bhutto told David Frost back in 2007 that Osama Bin Laden was killed by muslim terrorist Saeed Sheikh, who was also responsible for the death of Wall Street Journalist reporter Daniel Pearl and many others.

          Here’s the video: http://www.brasschecktv.com/page/242.html

          • Dennis Patrick

            No – Bin Laden was living in Washington, DC, according to Ahmadinejad (the president of Iran)

            http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/richard-adams-blog/2010/may/05/osama-bin-laden-mahmoud-ahmadinejad-washington?INTCMP=ILCNETTXT3487

            Personally, I thought he was hiding out at the Bush ranch in Crawford, Texas with his good buddies…

          • Doc Sarvis

            That’s rich!

          • Carlucci

            Dennis & Doc – Most people know that the Bushes were good buddies with the Bin Laden family. So what’s your point? Why are you libtards always trying to imply that the posters on this blog are RINOs who support the Bushes?

            Get over yourselves. You’re like the cat who got into the cream.

          • Jay

            Dennis, you finally made the connection, good for you! There’s hope for you yet.

        • Jay

          Where’s the body Doc? Oh right, they got rid of it, how convenient!

          • http://?? Joe H.

            Jay,
            Actually since they said they were going to observe muslim protocol with the body, it’s REAL strange!! See it is against muslim belief to bury at sea unless the person dies on the sea and there is no land in sight!!! Now they SAY they shot him at the compound, so they sure weren’t at sea when he died!!!

          • Jay

            Joe, this is nothing more then a staged media event. BTW, You would think that all the libertards would be up in arms that a peace loving muslim was killed by the war mongering religious west, but because their god/messiah obama is at the helm they applaud and through a party, showing themselves to be hypocrites while at the same time being played for fools! These libertard are not critical thinkers but court jesters at best!!!

          • Jay

            I misspelled throw.

      • Vigilant

        cm,

        Get the coal dust out of your head, and your head out of your backside. This discussion’s about abortion.

        • GregS

          Well said Vigilant! The liberals are notorious for moving discussions away from the topic being talked about, especially in situations where they see they will lose the argument.

      • Judy

        Obama didn’t do anything,the MILITARY did it, although he sure likes the use of the “I” in everything. What happened to “we” as Americans. Obama hates America & Americans.

        • Dennis Patrick

          Rush Limbaugh, Glenn Beck shower praise on President; ‘Thank God for President Obama,’ Rush says

          http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/2011/05/02/2011-05-02_rush_limbaugh_glenn_beck_shower_praise_on_president_thank_god_for_president_obam.html

          In the rarest of kumbaya moments, arch conservative radio host Rush Limbaugh hailed Obama for his plan to snuff out the world’s most wanted man.

          “We need to open the program today by congratulating President Obama,” Limbaugh said at the start of his show. “President Obama has done something extremely effective, and when he does, this needs to be pointed out.”

          Limbaugh lauded Obama’s focus, saying his decision to send a Specials Forces team to take out the terror kingpin amounted to a brilliant piece of military strategy.

          “The military wanted to go in there and bomb…just scorch the earth leaving no evidence of anything after the mission. But President Obama single-handedly understood what was at stake here,” Limbaugh gushed.

          “He alone understood the need to get DNA to prove the death…it was President Obama single-handedly and alone who came up with the strategy that brought about the effective assassination of Osama Bin Laden.”

          He later added, “Thank God for President Obama.”

          • Raggs

            Did you see the water splash when obama walked on it?

          • Jay

            Dennis, they were being sarcastic!

          • http://naver samurai

            Too much kool aid on a daily basis! FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

      • http://?? Joe H.

        coal miner,
        I wonder how nobummer feels having ordered the death of one of his bestest buddies??? AND A FELLOW MUSLIM AT THAT!!!!

        • Raggs

          I find it more than interesting that he would be buried at sea in less than one days time of death in order to protect the muslim belief of a funeral within 24 hours of a death.

        • Eddie47d

          Joe; It’s bad enough being a little ignorant but you are double ignorant!

          • Jay

            Eddie, you’re losing your grip. Still looking for a fight?

          • http://naver samurai

            Where’s the body, edduh? Where’s the body? No body, no death! Plain and simple. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

          • Jay

            Samurai, a better question, where is Osama? Personally, I think Osama was transferred to another department in the CIA! I find it hard to believe that obama would kill one of his own peace loving muslim brothers! This is nothing more then a staged media event!!!

          • http://naver samurai1966

            Jay, anything is possible with this “bozo the clown” in office. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

          • Eddie47d

            Look at all the goofy conspiracy bozos we have right here!

          • http://naver samurai

            Could you repeat that edduh? I couldn’t hear you. Your voice is too muffled in my underware. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

      • http://naver samurai

        Coal Miner, you’re a moron! First, show me the dead body and not just his DNA. You can get DNA by drawing blood or swabbing the inside of your cheek, but this doesn’t make the man dead. As we used to say in the army, “Son, I’m from Missouri. You have to show me.” Second, what the h*** did Obama bin Laden do? I thought it was the SEALS and not the pretender in the White House. Obama hasn’t done a darn thing for this country and you know this to be true. Just another lib, gay loving, baby killing, marxist on this site. Keep up the good fight, fellow patriots! We’re winning and they’re on the run! FOE GOD AND COUNTRY!

        • Eddie47d

          You get creepier by the day Samurai.

          • http://naver samurai

            If figthing to free this country from the progressives, rinos, and cinos makes me creepy, then so be it! Just wait till we vote Obama bin Laden next year. Anyway, I’m glad Indiana took the lead in this matter. This makes Indiana the hardest state to get an abortion. Just think, in the future there may not be any abortion. That would be great, wouldn’t it? FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

    • Vigilant

      “Ah ! conservatives, they are soooo clever! They can create problems then punish their adversaries all in one stroke of the pen and be “innocent” at the same time! I’m amazed that everyone is not a conservative!”

      Sounds like the recession, caused by the housing debacle, caused by Fannie/Freddy and their leftist sponsors in the House/Senate, and then blamed on Bush, who tried to regulate it. J. Goebbals propaganda at its worst.

      Where do you get your “history” from, Bob, “Illustrated Classics?”

      • http://?? Joe H.

        He reads toilet water, like tea leaves!!

      • meteorlady

        Bush did not sign Fair Housing, Clinton did. Bush did not repeal Glass-Steagall, Clinton did. Bush went before the senate banking committee on three separate occasions asking for oversight and was basically told to go pound sand by Barney and Chris. Bush asked for an audit of Fannie and Freddie and was told they were fine.

        Bush had the deficit coming down until his last two years when the Demos took control and the spending started.

        Not a big Bush fan.. didn’t vote for him or Obama. State facts please.

    • meteorlady

      I hate it when people that are not from this state comment. They show their ignorance and bias. Texas has a rainy day fund that is in excess of $9.4 BILLION. We are currently debating on tapping it for 3.2 billion so there can be smaller cuts to education.

      Fact is that we have a fairly health economy compared with the rest of the country. Our governor has worked hard and attracted businesses here and we have welcomed them and helped them to be profitable. Our houses are still worth about what we paid for them at least in my community.

      The budget shortfall that we suffer is, coincidentally, about the amount of money that illegals costs us each and every year. Some hospitals in our border towns are now bankrupt from anchor babies being born there without payment and illegals coming across for free medical care in our emergency rooms.

      Yet our illustrious president has told our border patrol to “scare them back across the border instead of processing them” so the illegals numbers will appear small each month.

  • Raggs

    Population control… That is what abortion and obama care is about.
    Kill all babies and old people…

    • http://PersonalLibertyDigest Dottie

      Abortions are a personal choice of the women or girls who want them, but I do not want my tax dollars to pay for them. If these women are having un protected sex and they become pregnant, it is their obligation to payfor the abortion. As far as seniors are concerned, Medicare is being cut to pay for the services that the seniors need. And before anyone writes that we are getting these free,it is not so.We paid into Social Security while we were working, so therefore we are enrolled into Medicare for which we are paying monthly, and it is being deducted from our S.S.Check.

  • Erik Osbun

    Exactly, public funds should not be used for murder.

    • Eddie47d

      Now that should put an end to all wars!

      • Jay

        Some wars are justified Eddie!

        • http://naver samurai

          You’re right, fellow patriot. Like the fight we patriots are fighting to get this country back to the ways we were founded. Fighting the good fight. Resistance to tyranny is obedience to God. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

        • Eddie47d

          Name them besides WWII.

          • http://naver samurai

            How about the Revolution and the Civil War? That’s too easy a question, edduh. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

  • s c

    A fitting way to describe an abortion is “an execution done in private.” You could also call it Hitler’s revenge on an unsuspecting America. Whatever you call it, it is an abomination.
    Margaret Sanger, who is much to blame for this curse on America, should be singled out for a belated comeuppance for motivating Hitler to inflict his own special brand of ‘racial purity insanity’ on those in his concentration camps.
    The only difference between Hitler’s insanity and Sanger’s is an America that is asleep by choice, and a nation [Germany] that longed for leader and got a hell-inspired monster. Evil is evil, no matter how it is packaged. WAKE UP, America!

    • Judy

      S.C. You got it, on the nose.

    • Dennis Patrick

      Wake up to the facts, sc! Your attempt to link Hitler to Sanger and, in effect, the modern-day Planned Parenthood organization have been discredited ad nauseum. (Here’s one: http://www.nyu.edu/projects/sanger/secure/newsletter/articles/sanger-hitler_equation.html) Making up things and calling someone a Nazi? Come on – be original.

      By the way, Sanger was anti-immigration, anti-abortion (!) and pro-free speech.

      Abortion is a terrible thing – but it should not be illegal (for the first trimester). We just can’t legislate morality!

      • newspooner

        Sanger and Schicklgruber were the primary international leaders of the Eugenics movement. Study it. Every “good Nazi” and most “good Liberals” did. The sad thing is that they tried to force it upon the populace of the world.

      • Jay

        Dennis, do you have ant other skills besides, lying?

      • Eddie47d

        Yes and the Hitler fanatics kept saying he was alive and well long after May 1st of 1945. Now we have all the doubters about Osama being killed yesterday.

        • Jay

          You’re just making that up!

          • http://naver samurai

            Of course. That’s what edduh does best. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

          • Eddie47d

            They said he was living in Argentina along with the rest of the Nazi’s.

          • http://naver samurai

            It’s a fact that he died in his bunker, edduh! FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

      • http://naver samurai

        You sure you want to stick by this rhetoric, lies, and inuendo that you’ve just posted, moron? FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

    • Carlucci

      EXCELLENT post, s.c. You rule.

    • Jay

      Thanks for that good post s c!!!

    • http://naver samurai

      100% agree, fellow patriot! FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

  • Kathleen

    Obama had nothing to do with the killing of Osama bin Laden. All the thanks should go to our military, not to the one who wanted our military to pay for their own health care. Be for real!

    • Dennis Patrick

      Some headlines:

      “Obama upstages Royal Wedding to Capture and Kill Someone Who Was Once Important”

      “Bin Laden Buried At Sea with Original Obama Birth Certificate”

      “Another Terrorist Pal Thrown Under the Bus: Jeremiah Wright; Bill Ayers, now Osama Bin Laden”

      “Show Us The Will: What Osama Left His Protege Obama”

      “Whitney Houston Relieved – Osama’s Courtship Comes to an End”

    • Raggs

      Correct you are… however he has already jumped head first on the “look what I did” train while the worshipers flock like crazy idiots in the streets, bowing to obama with an American flag waving.

      • Eddie47d

        What flag should they have been waving? or what flag should you have been waving?

        • Raggs

          What flag?.. I knew that would be asked…
          The American flag WAS united as a symbol of freedom from tyranny.
          Now it is no more than a symbol of false pride…

          • Eddie47d

            That’s funny Bin Laden wasn’t a terrorist then?

          • Jay

            That depends eddie, he’s own called him a freedom fighter. Personally, I think are own administration are the terrorists!

    • http://personalliberty.com RandyH

      Kathleen,is it really you?

  • http://marcum1@wildblue.net coal miner

    Kathleen,

    He is commander-in chief.2

    • http://naver samurai

      Yes, he is, but that doesn’t mean he can take the credit. Don’t you think our troops deserve the credit and not the pretender, hmmm? Bush and Cheney should get more credit than Obama bin Laden, since it was their plan after all. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

  • http://com i41

    Onumnutts did not do a damn thing except kep following Bush/Cheny’s well laid out plan. If the arm chairs dumbocraps had not been a bunch of simple minded bastards on fighting wars to win not just a feel good operation, Amafkgjerk in Iran would be gone, same as all the other s–t birds of muslim perversion. Guess the moon god allah was of playing with himself, or him and Moonhamed goty a fresh load of goats. The bunch of dumbocraps getting face time on TV are the same bastards who keep talking s–t about cutting the military all the time. This includes Onumnutts, his Sec of State whore, and all the marxist/communist socialist democat worthless pukes.

  • http://com i41

    If the muslim pervert puke Osama was killed why the rush to deep 6 the pece of s–t. When Saddam’s 2 spwan were killed, tese perverts were kept on ice and paraded around for about a week, and they were muslim perverts, so again the muslim customs quoted by media apears to be more Onumnutt s–t. Why was he brought back to NY and use his carcuss as a test to see if t takes longer for a muslim to break down at the body farm, at least benifit science. Or did the muslim marxist moron get “I;m sorry from the pervert Osama” and a deal was cut, since it was one pedophile to another? His new bc proves what a crooked corrupt bastard we have in the WH, his Kenyan bc has foot prints and should be checked out. Just another dumbocrap cover up and a speedy end that is had to prove. If the body was deep sixed who planned to have the material to sink it or was it just a imaginary figment of regressive depressive liberials.

    • Raggs

      Give it a few days… I’m sure that when the military kills Q-daffy everyone will say that obama walks on water.

      • http://?? Joe H.

        Raggs,
        I don’t know if he walks on water, but anyone following him walks on $HIT!!!!

        • Raggs

          You Damm straight!

          • Eddie47d

            You two are already knee deep in it!!

          • Raggs

            At least I dont eat it like you…

          • http://naver samurai

            Right again fellow patriots. Actually, he dives into it head first, but says it is only ankle deep. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

          • http://?? Joe H.

            eddie,
            If I’m knee deep in it, it’s because he was just here about a month or so ago!!!! At least my ears aren’t slapping his cheeks like yours!!!

          • Jay

            Eddie has his nose buried so far up obama’s but that he can’t see the sun for moon!

          • Eddie47d

            Actually it was rather sunny today Jay doo doo bird.

          • http://naver samurai

            Eduuh, you mean you’ve made that popping sound? FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

  • meteorlady

    OK so I have read most of the newsletter and gone to each topic. I’m finding that things are getting a bit off course on this site.

    There seems to be more and more name calling and insults and that’s not what I come here for. I come here for intelligent, factual comments, not a bunch of half truths or lies to support your politics. We still have people blaming Bush and conservatives. We have people putting down religious beliefs and we have people that are just out right off the wall. What’s up here?

    I notices that some commented on bin Laden. This was not the topic and I’m disappointed that things are taking a turn for the childish side of things.

    • Raggs

      AH yes.. it is the divide to conquer conception.
      If you notice most comments are started with the article and then in walks in the liberals to “change” the subject matter and to make arguementative comments.

      Dont let the asses fool you.they have both hands in their mouth.

    • GregS

      Well said, meteorlady!

  • Jay

    Confessions of an Ex-Abortionist
BERNARD NATHANSON
Dr. Bernard Nathanson details the deceptions, dirty tricks, and other tactics that helped make abortion legal and socially acceptable in the United States.

    I am personally responsible for 75,000 abortions. This legitimizes my credentials to speak to you with some authority on the issue. I was one of the founders of the National Association for the Repeal of the Abortion Laws in the U.S. in 1968. A truthful poll of opinion then would have found that most Americans were against permissive abortion. Yet within five years we had convinced the Supreme Court to issue the decision which legalized abortion throughout America in 1973 and produced virtual abortion on demand up to birth.

    How did we do this? It is important to understand the tactics involved because these tactics have been used throughout the western world with one permutation or another, in order to change abortion law.
    The First Key Tactic was to capture the media
    We persuaded the media that the cause of permissive abortion was a liberal enlightened, sophisticated one. Knowing that if a true poll were taken, we would be soundly defeated, we simply fabricated the results of fictional polls. We announced to the media that we had taken polls and that 60% of Americans were in favour of permissive abortion. This is the tactic of the self-fulfilling lie. Few people care to be in the minority.

    We aroused enough sympathy to sell our program of permissive abortion by fabricating the number of illegal abortions done annually in the U.S. The actual figure was approaching 100,000 but the figure we gave to the media repeatedly was 1,000,000. Repeating the big lie often enough convinces the public.

    The number of women dying cfrom illegal abortions was around 200 – 250 annually. The figure constantly fed to the media was 10,000. These false figures took root in the consciousness of Americans convincing many that we needed to crack the abortion law. Another myth we fed to the public through the media was that legalizing abortion would only mean that the abortions taking place illegally would then be done legally. In fact, of course, abortion is now being used as a primary method of birth control in the U.S. and the annual number of abortions has increased by 1500% since legalization.

    The Second Key Tactic was to Play the Catholic Card
    We systematically vilified the Catholic Church and its “socially backward ideas” and picked on the Catholic hierarchy as the villain in opposing abortion. This theme was played endlessly. We fed the media such lies as “we all know that opposition to abortion comes from the hierarchy and not from most Catholics” and “Polls prove time and again that most Catholics want abortion law reform.” And the media drum-fired all this into the American people, persuading them that anyone opposing permissive abortion must be under the influence of the Catholic hierarchy and that Catholics in favour of abortion are enlightened and forward-looking. An inference of this tactic was that there were no non-Catholic groups opposing abortion. The fact that other Christian as well as non-Christian religions were (and still are) monolithically opposed to abortion was constantly suppressed, along with pro-life atheists’ opinions.

    The Third Key Tactic was the Denigration and Suppression of all Scientific Evidence that Life Begins at Conception
    I am often asked what made me change my mind. How did I change from prominent abortionist to pro-life advocate? In 1973, I became director of obstetrics of a large hospital in New York City and had to set up a perinatal research unit, just at the start of a great new technology which we now use every day to study the fetus in the womb. A favorite pro-abortion tactic is to insist that the definition of when life begins is impossible; that the question is a theological or moral or philosophical one, anything but a scientific one. Fetology makes it undeniably evident that life begins at conception and requires all the protection and safeguards that any of us enjoy.

    Here is the link for the rest of the article. Oh yes, no doubt, the left will say this web site is bogus and Dr. Bernard Nathanson doesn’t exist!

    http://www.aboutabortions.com/Confess.html

    • GregS

      Excellent post, Jay!

  • momplayer

    Although I do believe abortion is a personal choice and really don’t think my tax money should be spent fot this procedure,but I’m also a realist.Your tax money is either going to be spent to pay for abortions or it’s going to be spent paying for pre-natal care, delivery,welfare,medicaid for 18 years or longer.If these women do not want a baby,what makes you think that the child will be any better treated than an animal they don’t want?I really belive an animal is better off being euthanized than beaten,starved or worse.The foster care system is overrun with unwanted children,adoption is expensive and out of reach for most people.So although I don’t like the idea of tax money for abortions maybe for some children it might be a better answer than a life of misery.

    • Raggs

      Yeah and the poor dumb queers need a federal government bail out now dont they.
      There is no logic to your comment.

    • Jay

      momplayer, are you trying to say that you had, and are having, a miserable life, and you wish you had been aborted? Please don’t misunderstand me, Im not being sarcastic, but it seems to me, anyone who had a great childhood and were shown how to celebrate life would not, I’m pretty sure, say something as you’ve just said!

    • GregS

      momplayer says:

      “The foster care system is overrun with unwanted children,adoption is expensive and out of reach for most people.”

      The problem with this statement is that virtually ALL of those childeren were “wanted” when they were born. Otherwise, they’d have been aborted! They are there because of events that occurred AFTER they were born (e.g. death of parents, child abuse, etc.). There are waiting lists for adoption of newborns and infants.

      Abortion has been legal in this country since 1973, and it has NEVER addressed the issue of foster care / orphanages, and it NEVER will.

  • Raggs

    I do not understand why nobody but me figures this out.

    The basturd obama had to make a show to save face when Trump trumped obamas cards…

    Now then to all that think obama is a cool koolaid drunk… So be it… But make no mistake.. I am not a stupid man!

  • Edsparks

    What most of you seem to be saying is that it’s okay for a well-off family to quietly abort their teenager’s fetus, but it’s not okay for a poor family.

    The morality argument would be a lot more convincing if you moralists would be willing to pay taxes to help the mother provide her unwanted baby with food, shelter, and healthcare.

    You can’t take away another woman’s freedom to decide whether or not to bear a child without taking responsibility for the consequences.

    Talk about fascism.

    • GregS

      Edsparks says:

      “What most of you seem to be saying is that it’s okay for a well-off family to quietly abort their teenager’s fetus, but it’s not okay for a poor family.”

      No, that’s NOT what we’re saying! Abortion is NEVER “okay!” It’s bad enough that you pro-aborts institutionalized abortion through Roe v. Wade. Now you want to CRAM it down the throat of EVERY taxpayer in the country!

      Edsparks says:

      “The morality argument would be a lot more convincing if you moralists would be willing to pay taxes to help the mother provide her unwanted baby with food, shelter, and healthcare.”

      If the mother doesn’t “want” her baby, then why can’t she give that baby up for adoption, rather than having her/him killed??? There are waiting lists for newborns and infants. Furthermore, there are crisis pregnancy centers throughout the country, which provide help with food, shelter, and healthcare. If the mother doesn’t want to keep her baby after he/she is born, the crisis pregnancy center will assist her with the adoption process, as well. Many of us “moralists,” as you call us, support these crisis pregancy centers.

      Edsparks says:

      “You can’t take away another woman’s freedom to decide whether or not to bear a child without taking responsibility for the consequences.”

      What you’re ultimately saying here is that the taxpayer should bear the FULL responsibility of a woman who gets pregnant by paying for her abortion. I THINK NOT!!! Abortion is NOT taking responsibility…it’s the taking of a HUMAN LIFE!

      The woman makes the decision to bear a child WHEN SHE GETS PREGNANT! If she doesn’t want a child, then she has NO business getting pregnant in the first place! If she does get pregnant and doesn’t want the baby, then, as I said, she should put the baby up for adoption. That is where the responsibility should be, NOT on the taxpayer to pay for an abortion!

      Edsparks says:

      “Talk about fascism.”

      NO ONE is talking about dictorial control here: The issue is about forcing the taxpayer to pay for the taking of an innocent HUMAN LIFE!

      • GregS

        “dictorial” should be “dictatorial”

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