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Starvation Insurance

January 17, 2011 by  

Starvation Insurance

If you are prepared you will not fear.

People spend a lot of money on insurance of all kinds: Life, health, hospitalization, vehicle, property, liability, home, flood, earthquake, catastrophic, malpractice and business. Typically at the end of the year if you have not used the insurance it starts over for the new year with new deductibles. You plan for the worst and hope for the best. If you have not used it, what do you have to show for all the money you have paid into these different insurances?

Have you ever thought of starvation insurance? Ask yourself the question, “Can my family survive on the food I have in my cupboard?” Food for peace of mind is the only way to insure that you and your family do not starve. At least if you have food put away as a form of insurance you can eat it and it still holds its value.

What are we insuring ourselves against?

  • Loss of job.
  • Natural catastrophes.
  • Economic collapse.
  • Stock market collapse.
  • Gas prices increasing.
  • Food prices increasing.
  • Hyperinflation.
  • World war.

We All Have Basic Needs

We all have needs. The need for survival is a natural instinct in human beings. We want to not only survive, but thrive. This includes the very basic needs of breathing, drinking water, eating, going to the bathroom, warmth, shelter, have the financial wherewithal to pay our basic bills and to fulfill our emotional needs such as: Safety, love, companionship and belonging.

 If these basic needs are not met we end up in a traumatic situation. Our emotional needs become overwhelming, our world starts to close in on us and we panic. When you have a lot of people experiencing this at the same time, it causes an energetic panic that spreads into anarchy.

When preparing for a self-sufficient lifestyle, one needs to take all these things into consideration. I am going to review the steps to being self sufficient that I have already covered in previous articles as well as things that will be covered in future articles. Make a plan and focus on it. Pray about it. I have had miracles happen when I know what I want and I ask God to help me achieve it.

Steps To Self-Sufficiency

  1. Store enough water for everyone in your family for a three-month emergency. This is a minimum of 90 gallons per person. I sell a product on my website called ION. It will safely treat 110 gallons of water by killing harmful bacteria on contact. It keeps water safe for up to five years. I sell 125-gallon, 185-gallon, 250-gallon, and 500-gallon water storage tanks. Learn more about these products by going here.
  2. Purchase a three-month rotatable food supply, such as canned goods and all items that your family is used to eating. Use your favorite recipes to determine what to purchase.
  3. Store quick meals that are easy and require only water to make. I recommend the company called eFoods Global. You can learn all about eFoods here.
  4. Store dehydrated and freeze dried foods that have a long shelf life. These bulk items include:
    • Dried fruits and vegetables.
    • Dried beans and legumes.
    • Dried grains such as, wheat, rice, pasta and barley.
    • Flour (a wheat grinder is very helpful in making flour from whole wheat).
    • Sweeteners such as honey, sugar, maple syrup, stevia or agave.
    • Spices such as salt, pepper, garlic and onion powder and cinnamon.
    • Gravy, seasoning packets and sauce mixes.
    • Dairy products and eggs, such as: Dried milk, dried butter, dried cheese powder and dried eggs.
    • Bakery items such as different types of mixes.
    • Beef and chicken bouillons.
    • Bread baking items such as yeast, whole wheat to grind into flour.
    • Baking items such as: soda, salt, baking powder.
  5. Store enough blankets, clothing, coats, gloves, sleeping bags, etc., to keep warm in case the power goes off for an extended period of time.
  6. Store all non-food items that you could not live without such as, soaps, toilet paper, baby diapers, wipes, personal hygiene items, toothpaste, paper plates, silverware and cups and all other necessary items.
  7. Have an alternate method of cooking and boiling water such as, a jet boil, a wood or coal stove, propane camp stove, sun or solar oven, fire pit, outdoor barbeque grill or fireplace.
  8. Figure out an alternate way to go to the bathroom. We live in a pioneer home that was built in 1860. We have restored it and have an outhouse on our property. It works very well and has been used for more than 100 years.
  9. Build a 72-hour emergency kit for everyone in your family. This should include everything you would need to survive for three days if you had to grab it and go. It is also called a bug-out kit. It is a good idea to have a car kit in the car for any type of emergency while you are driving. There are other kits as well such as a medical kit for medical emergencies and a baby or toddler kit with baby items for an emergency. The book I wrote Emergency Food Storage & Survival Handbook has a chapter on how to make these kits and what to put in them. You can purchase this book by going here.
  10. Have on hand firearms and enough ammunition for hunting wild animals for food and to protect yourself and your family.
  11. Learn self-sufficiency skills such as:
    • Growing a garden.
    • Saving heirloom seeds to plant the next year.
    • Building a green house for an extended growing season.
    • Building a root cellar.
    • Canning and preserving food in bottles.
    • Grinding grain and making your own bread.
    • Dehydrating excess food yourself.
    • Sprouting grains, beans, legumes and seeds for maximum nutrition.
    • Raising chickens, ducks, turkeys, rabbits, goats, mutton, pigs or beef.
    • Learn to hunt deer and elk for food.
    • Learn to butcher, wrap and freeze or bottle the meat to use year round.

This will save you a lot of money at the grocery store and you will have the skills to survive any type of economic crash or disaster, whether manmade or natural. People will have to band together and help each other.

Bartering will become a way to do this. Everyone has different skills. If you have food stored and can use it to trade for other things that you need, then you will be using the new currency of the future. Food is the best investment you can make for your future.

As Americans, our addictions drive the world’s economy. We need to simplify our lives, control our personal spending and use any extra money we have to pay down debt and purchase the necessary items to become self sufficient. It will take some planning to get out of debt. I will be addressing this subject in another article.

Because I am in a business of helping people become self-sufficient, I have had many people call me who are on fixed incomes and ask how they can possibly squeeze any more money out of their budget to purchase a stockpile of food, water, fuel, blankets, clothing and all the other necessary items needed to be independent and self-sufficient. I have found a program that I am very impressed with. It is called eFoods. Their mission statement is Serve, Store and Share the food. This company has a new concept in storable foods that are delicious, nutritious, affordable and convenient for daily use as well as storing food for up to 15 years for future use.

Some of the features of the eFoods are:

  • The food is dehydrated from premium-grade fresh raw foods.
  • There are no genetically modified food items (GMOs).
  • The food has no hydrogenated oil.
  • There is no added monosodium glutamate (MSG).
  • The food is not imported from countries using illegal fertilizers and insecticides.

Just click here and watch the three-minute video then you can purchase the food online in two different packages: A $99.95 Variety Pack or a $349.95 Essentials Package.

If you purchase the Essentials package you will receive three cartons of a variety of the essential foods. Then sign up for the once a month carton of food to be sent to you automatically for $99.95 plus shipping. After one year you will have a stockpile of 15 cartons of food. This includes meals ready to cook including soups: cheddar broccoli, Italian chicken, vegetable beef, tortilla soup, corn chowder, minestrone, chicken noodle, chili and potato cheddar. Entrées and other baking items include chicken pasta Alfredo, cheesy chicken rice casserole, beef stroganoff, au gratin potatoes, instant seasoned potatoes, pancake mix, corn muffin mix, cornmeal dumplings, granola, powdered milk, wheat bread mix and buttermilk biscuit mix.

I am very impressed with their food. It is dehydrated, not freeze-dried, so the prices are very reasonable. Each package of food is ready to go with everything except the water. It only takes 15-20 minutes to cook and it’s done. The food is delicious.

The packages feed two to four people and come packed in Mylar® bags for long-term storage of up to 15 years. The cooking instructions are on each package. This food was designed for a child to be able to cook it. I use this food every day and it really helps me save money at the grocery store because I don’t impulse-buy any more. You can use it every day, store it for an emergency or share it with others.

You can purchase food for yourself as a preferred customer or you can join the company as a distributor and pay a $29.95 once a year fee to have your own Website and share the food with others. This is called an IBO, or Independent Business Owner. You will make commissions on sales and have your own personal Website and back office.

You can earn food credits by referring others. This is called an EIBO, which stands for Essentials Independent Business Owner. You must purchase the Essentials package and the IBO kit. These weekly food credits that you earn can be redeemed for food, can be gifted to others and can be used as currency to purchase preparedness items in the forthcoming eFoods Global online shopping mall.

This is a way that someone can work part-time in their own home business and earn enough money to pay for their own stockpile of food as well as earn extra money to help pay down debt and become more self sufficient.

Please call me if you have any questions about the program. I can be reached at 435-835-0311 or cell 435-851-0777 in Utah. The Website explains the entire program and has photos of the food. To check it out, simply click here. Email me here. To purchase my books or any of the other preparedness items I sell go to my website.

Peggy Layton

a home economist and licensed nutritionist, holds a B.S. in Home Economics Education with a minor in Food Science and Nutrition from Brigham Young University. Peggy lives in Manti, Utah with her husband Scott. Together they have raised seven children. Peggy owns and operates two businesses: One called "The Therapy Center", where she is a licensed massage therapist and hypnotherapist, and the other an online cookbook and preparedness products business. She is nationally known for publishing a series of seven books on the subject of food storage and also lectures and teaches seminars about preparedness and using food storage products. Peggy practices what she preaches, has no debt, grows a huge garden, lives off the land, raises chickens, bottles and dehydrates food and has time left over to operate her businesses. To check out Peggy's cookbooks and self sufficiency products go to her website www.peggylayton.com. To get a free sample of three different storable meals that have a 15-year shelf life go here.

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  • Teresa

    Some of this I have to agree with, but when the government is spraying everything and killing off the food we grow and the animals is not going to be easy to survive!

  • Ken

    Are the eFood goods that last 15 years akin to Army MRE’s? The Army version lasts about 5 years…how do the eFood goodies last up to 15? Excellent system and idea!

    • Mary Mahonan

      I got the free samples plus shipping. Haven’t tried them yet. I’ll let you know how they are. Packaging looks nice. They are stamped with an expiration date of 2025.

      • Granny Mae

        Ken,
        eFoods are freeze dried foods and will last up to 15 years if kept under ideal conditions. It is the same with any brand of freeze dried foods! The cooler you can keep them the longer they will store, the warmer the shorter the storage time. That is why you don’t just buy these foods and tuck them away till you need them. The best thing to do is to rotate, rotate, rotate. In other words use and replace that way you extend your storage time and you also get to know how to use these foods. If you plan on just opening, adding water and eating then you don’t have much to worry about but there are some of us that get very bored eating that way. I need to make other foods to give myself a break from time to time so I store whole grains also and some other odds and ends. I like to have homemade bread at times and other things along that line. My suggestion to people that are new commers to the survival thing, is store what you eat and eat what you store. Also save yourself some money and buy a dehydrator and vacuume sealer. You can do a lot to save yourself some money and it is easy and fun. Simple stuff. Also learn to do some home canning. That too is easy just follow instructions carefully and you are good to go.

        • Granny Mae

          Also these are not the same as military MRE’s. You need water to mix with most freeze dried foods. MRE’s are just heat and eat ! Or open and eat !

          • Granny Mae

            Sorry, It says these are not freeze dried but simply dehydrated! So I couldn’t tell you how long to expect them to keep. However , it usually depends on the temperature at which the meals are kept. The lower the temp. the longer the life. The higher the temp. the shorter the life ! Keep them dry and as cool as possible and don’t store in your garage or an out side shed that is not air conditioned in the summer. One last thing to remember is rotate, rotate, rotate!

    • Mike

      I got the sample pack from Efoods and it was quite good. Even my very, VERY picky wife liked it. It was either dehydrated or freeze dried and packaged in mylar. I am learning that packaging in mylar is the key to longevity. My two cents. Be Safe. End the Fed.

      • kate8

        I just read where Mountain House is sold out for weeks to come. It seems the government has been buying up all their emergency food.

        There is little doubt that they know something they aren’t sharing with us.

        BTW, I also read in the martial law documents that food hoarding will be illegal and food stores will be confiscated, along with gold.

        It’s more necessary than ever to be prepared. It would be good to have some way of hiding it though, or we’ll be forced to rely on the terms set by BigBro.

        • Granny Mae

          Kate8,

          This isn’t the first time they have done this. They did it two years ago too and probably last year if we could check. There is something up for sure but don’t expect any truthful explanations from them! My thoughts are they are stocking incase of a attack of some kind. Mountain House foods is not the type for military use, they use MRE’s. So my guess is it is for civilian use of some kind ! They are gearing up for something and so should we ! Well those of us that aren’t already geared up !

  • joeee

    well remember thoses pics of parentless children in the streets all they had was a bowl of rice and t-shirt on, well this scene is now america, they have imported poverty. after almost one hundred years of trying to help these cultures get ahead the pics never change. so our gov has imported them here to dilute our economy and culture ther is no going back this country is in a downward spiral into poverty.

  • Carol Sue

    I am storing non perishable food and personal hygiene items, etc., and we have an outdoor grill. But living in an urban area, hunting for game and having an alternate toilet is next to impossible.

    • 45caliber

      It won’t be if things go really bad. You can always eat dogs and cats. Or rats.

      • kate8

        45 – My cats are part of my family. That there would be people hunting them for food breaks my heart.

        There will be many who are without stored food. Even people close to us. And, sadly, they will be expecting us to provide for them.

        • Granny Mae

          kate8,

          I too have cats that are very special to me so I have made plans for them. I have made a large cat run for them. It is really just a 10 x10 ft cage that is also 10ft. tall. Inside is all kinds of room for them to climb and hide and explore and scratch and what ever they want to do. It is covered so it has shade and shelter from rain. In the evening I bring them in the house, into my utility room. In the morning they go back out to their play pen. It is all screened in with chicken wire and has a door for us to go in and out for what ever reason . It is also movable so I can change where it is in the yard from time to time. I also can food for them. When I can for us I use the scrap pieces for my cats. I can this in tall jelly jars and also in 1/2 pint jars. My cats also eat scraps from our table. I have had so many people tell me that cats shouldn’t eat from the table they should only eat dry cat food ! Dry cat food is mostly all grains and that is not what a cat eats in the real world. My cats eat meat mostly and some vegetables. They love it. So anyway that is how I have tried to safe guard my cats. It is only a thought for others to consider. I also can for my son’s dog who is a member of both our families. She comes to visit me every morning and spends some time with us before she goes back home. Our pets are truly members of our family and when we go somewhere they usually go with us so I plan for them just as I do for anyone else and I will protect them just as I will my children.

    • Granny Mae

      Carol Sue,

      Having an alternate toilet is not impossible. 1. You can drain all the water out of your inside toilet and line the toilet with a kitchen size white garbage bag, put the seat back down on it and use it as normal. Try to use it several times and then remove it tie it up and dispose of it in a hole in the ground outside. It may be wise to do this at night when there are not a lot of prying eyes. 2. You can put a porta potty in a out door shed and use it that way, also you could dig a hole and set the porta potty over the hole . Make sure the hole is quite deep and when full just cover it and dig another hole. There is also a product sold for porta potty’s that make use of a bag and a chemical that is put in the bag that makes the contents oderless and safe to dispose of. You might want to check that out ! Chec on the internet and in magazines like Mother Earth News or Country side or Backwoods Home magazine. Maybe even some camping places ! You have to think out of the box !

      • Christin

        Another great suggestion, Mae… I hadn’t thought of that either!

      • Granny Mae

        Carol Sue,

        being in the city I wouldn’t worry about hunting for food if I were you, I would concentrate on storring things I could trade for other things I could use and I would also get a couple guns andammunition and learn how to shoot simply for self protection. You may never have to use it but if you needed it and didn’t have it , it could mean your life or the lives of your family.

      • Dan az

        Granny
        there is a better choice,http://www.natureshead.net/?gclid=CPuD3ae11KYCFRBNgwodnW0SGw
        Allot of suppliers have them this is just one so you can see what it is.

        • Granny Mae

          Dan az,

          I checked this out and it looks like a great idea. I don’t know the cost but someone put a lot of thought into it. I may see if the better half might want to invest in one. He will probably tell me no because we already have a portapotty, but this would be nice because of the composting idea. Sure would make disposal a lot easier. Thanks for the web sight !

    • Granny Mae

      Carol Sue,

      For the alternate toilet google Restop 2 and Restop 1. This is the place to check out this product. Good info for anyone interrested in this subject.

  • Wanda Perry

    Carol Sue—A five gallon bucket with a toilet seat and kitty litter will work in an extreme situation–a little garden lime sprinkled on top will take care of odors too. A toilet seat fits perfectly on a 5 gallon bucket you can purchase from Lowe’s or Home Depot too. Don’t panic, just keep storing food and water and get that bucket!!!

    • Christin

      Love your suggestion Wanda… hadn’t thought of that.

    • Granny Mae

      Wanda Perry,

      The kitty litter is a great idea. I think it could work in the garbage bag in the toilet. Using the toilet with the litter bag is a good idea for people with problems with their knees and find it hard to get up and down or have to use those handles on either side of the toilet for handicapers. I like the kitty litter idea because it will allow for extended use without too much odor problem ! Thanks for the idea. I just love this sharing of ideas because you can usually take an idea and make it fit your personal needs ! Good post !

  • eric Siverson

    I have thought of selling starvation insurance , As I’am a american farmer owning cows chickens and bins full of grain , my hungry childran would quickly come home . The goverenment used to pay me to keep grain on hand as a national food bank sorta . They have not done this for many yrs . now if I hold reserves I hold it at my own expence .

    • kate8

      eric – I even saw a report awhile back that by those who said they witnessed grain stores being off-loaded from trains and loaded on ships going overseas, in the dead of night.

      It seems they are making certain that we have no supplies to fall back on. It will be up to each individual family to have their own.

      • Christin

        Wow, I had not heard that about the grain… that is just amazing, Kate8.

        Jesse Ventura had a Great Lakes Water Conspiracy that states they are draining our lakes and selling the best water overseas… China, too!

        Seems like SOME PEOPLE are profitting from selling OUR natural resources out from under us [American People] with OUT our knowledge or consent.

        • kate8

          Christin – I saw the episode about the water. Not only are they shipping it to China, but the poor quality water left for us will cost us so much we won’t be able to afford it. They’re talking about water being more expensive than fuel.

          I don’t see how we can have water shortages, with the exception of areas in drought. Earth is mostly water, and is a huge, self-contained eco-system. Water is constantly recycling, so aside from pollution, there should be plenty of water for everyone forever.

          I think God understood what we’d need to live.

          • Granny Mae

            kate8,

            I wonder if that is why the Great Lakes are receading ! They have lost a tremendous amount of water. I was born and raised in Michigan and spent a great deal of time around the great lakes so imagine my surprise when one year we went to visit my father and he told me that the lakes were loosing water! We went to see and it was astounding ! One of our friends said oh well we have been in a drought, but that was not from a drought. Those lakes are so huge they are like looking out over the ocean. To see the water that at one time was at your dock and in a couple of years is thousands of yards out to sea now is unbelievable ! There must be someone taking water from the lakes in huge quantities and regularly for this to be taking place. I could see it happening over a period of thousands of years but this much in a matter of 20 or 30 years ? Unreal ! My dad said they were sending water to other states that were in drought conditions but I don’t really know for sure if that is true or not ! It is scary and my husband says that he thinks that by doing that we are changing the balance of the earth all over the world and it will lead to no good ! He may be right !

          • Christin

            Mae,
            The Ventura Great Lakes Conspiracy show said it was a foreign Swiss Company named “Nestle” under the “Perrier” Company that is draining the aquafer and selling the water that fills the Great Lakes around MI who are responsible for the low lake levels. We won’t buy their water or products, now.

            I, too, am from the Great Lakes region originally having lived not too far from Lake Erie. When I went back to visit in 1991 we drove along side Niagra River and went to Niagra Falls, but at that time I did not notice much of a change in water levels, but I was not looking for it back then either. I left a long time ago when I was a teenager so what would I remember of how it was like.

            The Great Lakes and Lake Mead, NV are NOT the only lakes or reseviors that are astoundingly low around America as stated in the show. So much for the protection from the federal government and Congress to these foreign and domestic companies that do the evil work for TPTB.

          • Granny Mae

            Christin,

            Thanks for the info. That explains a lot. There is a lot going on right now here in Fla. over Nestles taking water from the aquafer. There is a plant not too far from me and they are wanting to build another one somewhere around the panhandle ! All this so some fat cats can get richer. They sure are not thinking of the rest of the country are they ?

          • http://! Angel Wannabe

            kate 8. Perrier_Huh?___they bought an old spring a few years ago just up the road from us, its a satellite bottling station. Unmarked of course!

  • Flynn

    What are you going to do with your lime-covered waste as it accumilates? Before you know it, you will be sitting on top of a mountain of waste as the poor people of Haiti are now. The secret of self suffiency is not in storing a lot of efoods from this lady’s website, but the secret of self suffiency is learning how to do those things which our parents and grandparents did instinctively: growing our own food, raising an animal or two for food, community hog killings, home canning and drying of home raised food, learning how to sew and make our own clothes instead of buying them from China. It may even mean giving more attention to what we eat and wear and giving less attention to meaningless things like ipods, cellphones, and computers that are meaningless and unnecessary in the grand scheme of things.

    • Paul

      Flynn, as a plumber’s son, I am with you 100% on being able to deal with waste, and I am all too eager to be moving out of this frost bitten bluestate gulag I currently live in, to a place where I can put my 20+ gardening experience to more practical use. However, trying to claim that computers and cellphones “are meaningless and unnecessary in the grand scheme of things” is a complete crock. Computers and cellphones allow us to learn from others and communicate without “permission” by the authorities, or interference from a government run by power hungry madmen who also happen to be as dumb as a bag of hammers. Why else do you think they are pushing so hard for net “neutrality”, the Fairness Doctrine and the banning of cellphone use in your car? Its because the power-pigs fear the power that we the people have by being able to communicate with one another.

      btw, if computers dont mean anything, how the heck did you get on here to leave your response?

      If you love your freedom, thank a vet.
      If you want to keep your freedom, thank a geek

      • USNpops

        When I hear that Obama has another Executive Order coming to require Internet ID numbers I get suspicious as to the Internet remaining as free as it seems to be.

        No clarification on this, just a quick blip the other day on a news blog. Wonder how that will be used.

      • Granny Mae

        Paul,

        I agree with you. These things are what brings us to a new era and allows us the ability to communicate in seconds with people all over the world. These cell phones that we complain about so much ( me included) are what keeeps the government more honest with john q public ! The news media can put their spin or the governments spin on anything happening in this country except for people on the sceen with their cell phone. Can’t argue with the eye witness ! I am not the brightest when it comes to computers and cell phones and mp4 players and i-pods. You would never know that my sons all make their livings in this field and my husband did also but for me it is all confusing ! Just tonight my husband showed me how to use favorites ! It is like I can only handle one thing at a time and I have to get one down to where it works automatically before I can go on to another and then if I don’t use it on a regular basis I will forget how to do it and have to learn all over again. I think most of my problem is my age but then again that may just be an excuse !!! We need to guard all of our communications with everything possible !

    • DeJay

      Flynn, the computer and the internet are the best things to have as long as they are available. It appears that this the one big source of being able to communicate with the outside world and get truthful info from us patriots. How can we grow things if the chemtrails are killing the microbes in the soil where nothing grows? If nothimg grows, how can we feed animals? I believe stored foods are a must if one can afford them. I am concerned about the items that cost so much being available in the local super market like dried milk, au gratin potatoes, hot roll mix, pancake mix to name a few. Canned foods in the metal cans will lose its nutritive value with time but it will last a tear before it loses too muvh. However, then we have the BPA to deal with. The poisonous coating lining the cans. It appears that the powers that be (TPTB) have all bases covered to kill us. Unless we takesome forceful action soon, we are doomed.

      • kate8

        DeJay – I know what you mean about the chemtrails. I live in an area that has been targeted with extremely heavy and increasing spraying for the past few years, and my garden’s production has been diminishing. Last year, hardly anything did well. The squash was so bad – some only yielding 2 or 3 squash for the whole season.

        The flowers and trees are suffering, too. And the bees are extremely scarce. I have been wondering what to do to try to counter the effects of the toxins. One thing is the high concentration of barium. I read that magnesium counters it, so this year I will try adding more of that.

        The other problem with the spraying is that it blots out the sun. We sometimes go weeks at a time without sunshine coming through. The sun acts as a purifier and kills pathogens efficiently, but not if it’s blocked out.

    • 45caliber

      City people can’t do all that. No land is available. And to get rid of wastes, you bury them in the back yard – or front as available. If things really get bad, you’ll see a lot of people in the cities heading for the country.

      • Granny Mae

        45caliber,

        There is a chemical made today and sold that can be mixed with human waste and it renders it safe. I have seen it advertised on the television and in magazines. I think I saw it available at Emergency Essentials. Anyone interrested would have to check or ask them spacifically ! It is quite an new inovation on the market ! It could also be available in stores that deal in camping and hiking supplies ! I don’t see why it couldn’t be used for port-a-potty’s. They also make special toilet paper for port-a-potty’s that disolves quickly too. We used it many times when we were camping all the time ! Also used it when we first came to our property and spent week-ends and vacations working on the property. There is also a liquid that we use to get to add to the port-a-potty that canceled the smell! I think it is available at camping supply stores !

    • Christin

      Flynn,

      You dig a hole in the ground… saving the top grass piece… and fill in the hole with your waste and cover with some of the soil and the grass top to plug, but don’t do it near a water source.

      Why is it we don’t know what our parents and grandparents knew how to do… have they not spent enough time teaching us? Actually, some of our parents did teach us some of those things, but when easier time saving ways came they were only too happy to enjoy washing machines, central heating and air, electric irons & ovens, and convenient grocery stores… and I can see why.

      Who knew the evil ones would over power us, collapse our beautiful country, bring us to our knees and reduce us to survival status… Well, actually THEY probably DID! My mom told me when I was a young girl that the Communists would take us down from with in… she knew, but probably not exactly how and it was a long way off. And I think they were enjoying their prosperity and all the new gadgets of their time as the younger generation is enjoying the cell and computer tecnology of this time. Computers are essential to our knowledge and communication as I see it right now.

      My Mom taught us how to sew at age nine, grow fruit and vegetable gardens, and she canned bushels of fruits and vegetables from the farmer markets, but she (and my Grandmother) kind of did the canning when I was very small and did not bring my sister and I into the process and I believe they have dropped the ball.

      I think every one should try their hand at gardening even if it is in containers in the city. But as one who tried my hand at a fruit orchard and raised garden beds in the country last year, I must tell you it takes a little time to see what grows best next to what and combatting the insects (grasshoppers for us) even then you will not get enough food to last your whole family all year until planting season begins again in Spring unless it is a large area and you can/dry the food.

      If you are a good gardener and your soil grows vegetables and someone else is better at growing fruits then you can trade. Like wise, if you have a sewing machine and can sew or repair clothes & blankets, but someone else is a good mechanic then you can use your skills to help one another. If you have wooded acreage or a water source and someone else is a good hunter or fisher then you can trade what you need… if the good people work together.

      Good Article and Good Posts… you all have many fields of expertise.

      • Granny Mae

        Christin,

        Great post. You know that I’m with you. When the time comes I think there will be a lot of fast learners ! LOL !

      • http://?? Joe H.

        christin,
        I’m a man and I can! If I can learn it you can as well! Get a book on it and while you can, read it. If there is something you don’t understand, ask here I’m sure Granny Mae or any number of people, myself included would be willing to help you!

        • Dan az

          Joe
          Thats a fact.Ive have been doing it for a better part of 16yrs now and it is easy for any one with the knowledge that is available.I would be glad to help in any way I can because experience is the best teacher I learned from the school of hard knocks and if there is a way to screw it up I have done it.Not all the books that you read are true they have not lived it and I know that for a fact.My daily life is no different than yours except I dont have the bills that you have.And when things go down hill the only way I will know it had will be if my computer dosent work or communications stop.

    • Granny Mae

      Flynn,

      I have to say I can see where you are coming from. To survive the comming disaster, we do need to remember how to live like our parents and grandparents did. For those of us that are older it won’t be too hard but it will be up to us older folks to teach the younger folks. Today we had a baby shower for my granddaughter and a woman at the shower was talking to another young woman and said she and her husband wanted to store some food and supplies but didn’t really know how and she would like to learn how to do home canning. I told her I would be happy to teach her and she said she would love that and she would be intouch. We will see. But it is going to be up to the granny’s like me and grandpa’s like my husband to teach them how to go about it and then they will have to pass it on. But you are right , it is the older ways that will better serve us at that time and some of these new fangled things may not fare so well.

  • dhellew2

    Survival is a mind game. Those that make up their mind to survive will, those that don’t will not. All over the world people die even when there is food right in front of their face because they are afraid to try something new. Countries that eat rice won’t try wheat even when it could save their life.

    Go take a military survival course. You would be amazed at what you can do and what you can eat. Even most of your local boy scouts learn the basics. Have you ever eaten cattails? The green tops are similar to corn on the cob, the bottom of the leaves taste like cucumbers, and the root tubers substitute for potatoes.

    • DeJay

      sehell-uva? You’re so right! The Chinese are claimed to be responsible for so many good things, one example being acqupuncture. Then why do they insist on eating polished rice where all the good nutrients are removed. Why not the unprocessed kerna;? MSG also comes it mind. It’s claimed that it is not good for us.

      • 45caliber

        But if they told people MSG wasn’t good for us, people might stop using it and the company that makes it would lose a lot of profits!

  • ZELDA LEE HOOVER

    NONE OF US CAN DO ALL THESE SURVIVAL IDEAS. BUT ALL SHOULD DO WHAT THEY CAN. EVEN URBANITES (WITH A YARD) CAN DIG A HOLE FOR WASTES. WE NEED TO FORM A NETWORK OF SUPPORT SO NO ONE HAS TO STORE EVERYTHING. JUST AN INFORMAL GROUP OF FAMILY, FRIENDS, & NEIGHBORS. I AM HAVING A HARD TIME GARDENING BECAUSE OF “ADOBE” SOIL. WILL BE TRYING THE STRAW BALE METHOD THIS SPRING. WE CAN SEE BIG TROUBLE COMING. PRAY, PRAY, PRAY

    • Bruce

      Find the book Square Foot Gardening. Get the newest edition. Where I live the soil is less than perfect so I had to create my own soil / garden site. I was lent this book and made my own raised garden (no needles kneeling or bending) and have fed my famil well for the last two seasons. I also recently got into dehydrating vegetables.

    • independant thinker

      I am foutunate in that I live in the country however my available garden spot was pure red clay. I was able to purchase some used crossties and use them to build a raised garden area. I then bought broken bags of soil and bark mulch when I could find them (you can normaly get a good deal on broken bags) and started building up the ground. I also vacume and mulch my leaves to go on the garden compost my grass clippings and vegatable waste to put on the garden and I compost manure when I can get it. My paths between the rows are covered with wheat straw or shreded paper. My hobby is woodworking so when I have enough sawdust I will put it on the garden or in my compost as well. Hardwood sawdust is supposed to be better than pine for this but either one works. There are some sources of information on improving soil and building above ground gardens out there a place to start is Mother Earth magazine. They are on line and you can get a complete set of back issues on CD for, I think, about $40. There are other sources of this information as well I just cannot recall them at the moment.

      • DeJay

        I read an article in Mother Earth News where the author put his composting material in black plastic bags and claimed that it turned into manure in about 30 days w/o all the good stuff being taken out in an animals gut. I tried it one time and it didn’t work beause I used the standard household bags and quack grass grew up into the bag and let the water out which is needed if the material is dry. This Spring I will try the heavy duty contractors bags availble at builder’s supply. I will also move them to check an see of the grass will grow thru them.

      • 45caliber

        If you have clay soil that won’t grow things very well, you can add gypsum to it. A friend of mine checked with building contractors and paid them a couple of dollars for a load of “sheet rock” that was broken up. it is paper and gypsum. He broke it up to small bits with a hammer and then plowed it into his garden. It took awhile but he ended up with a good soil that won’t turn as hard as a rock in the sun and won’t allow the water to run off when it rains. Road contractors buy it as a powder and disk it into the soil to stabilize it for road use since clay expands and contracts to much. If you drive by a place where they are building a road and see a lot of white powder out there on the dirt, that is gypsum.

        • Teresa

          45….same works w/crush and run gravel…I live in SE Tenn. where the dirt is mostly clay. Was raised on a farm. My brother at times uses the gravel from the querry when plowing the field…not lg. amounts, but it helps. This can also be used if you are growing in a 50 gal. bucket. Put the crush & run gravel, soil, and pvc pipe (drill hole in pipe) to water and you can insert miracle grow if desired for your veggies….works wonderful and easy to transport inside and out.

          • libertytrain

            all right, I’m confused about the pvc pipe? where does that go or fit in -

          • independant thinker

            Liberty, The pipe goes in the bucket verticaly. In a 1-2 galon size container you would use maybe a onw to one nad a half inch pipe verticaly to water the plants as the size of your planter goes up you would use a larger diameter pipe or several smaller ones. Using the pipe with small holes drilled in it gives a better water/plant food distribution than just pouring it on the surface.

      • Dan az

        independant thinker
        Do you mean rail road ties as cross ties?If so then I would suggest that you line them with plastic because the creosote in them is a carcinogen that leaches into the soil.

        • Granny Mae

          Dan,

          You are very right. When using railroad ties you should always put a barrier between them and the soil to protect the plants planted inside ! Glad you thought to mention it. I forgot all about it.

          And to think I am thinking of using some to make an herb garden ! I will remember now! maybe! lol !

    • DeJay

      Zelda, would you explain this straw bale thing. If one could grow vegetables on a bale that would be the way to go since the microbes are being killed in the soils. To get raw greens for their food value and most notably enzymes, one can grow sprouts almost any place.

      • 45caliber

        I’ve not heard it called this but you place the bale in a container and add water. The stray (hay) soaks up the water and raises it to the surface for the plants to grow. The hay, as it breaks down, provides plants with nutrients.

        You can use loose hay as well. Let your yard grow up about a foot before you mow it. Let the grass dry about a week and then rake it up and use it. Of course, you have to live in a place that doesn’t object to letting your grass grow a little taller. Most housing projects won’t allow this. You can also, sometimes, pick up the dried grass/hay along road shoulders after state/county mowers cut it.

  • http://Newsvine.com Rixar13

    “You plan for the worst and hope for the best”

    And then fight with your insurance company that will deny, delay, defend, distract and distort so as not to pay a claim… Smile :-)

  • bob wire

    “Have you ever thought of starvation insurance? Ask yourself the question”

    Yes, sure~ but not though second and third parties that have little vested interest other then profits. I stock some ~”things” and continue to do so, and mobility in such times is a serious issue.

    Insurance is a gamble for gamers and the house always wins in the long run. If they couldn’t win, they wouldn’t offer it.

    How about some bad idea insurance? That’s what we need to day.

    You find some company offering coverage and we can make it mandatory for all elected official, a bureaucrat Error and Omissions policy. City , County, State and Fed.

    If policymakers was subjected to the same demands as the private sector by insurance providers ~ we’d be living in a better world.

    Why would it be good enough for one and not the other?

    • DeJay

      I read an article in the Spotlight published in D.C. a sort of underground newspaper. The author says to look around you and count all the house being caught on fire. There were so few that he dropped his fire insurance. We had our house burn down when I was a kiid. We didn’t have any insurance but we got a new house built w/o too much of a problem. I would drop my fire insurance but my wife won’t let me. If one is enterprising, there is always a way.

  • Howard Roark

    There is an executive order ( by Bill Clinton I belive) in place that gives the federal govt the power to declare a national emergency and forceably take food etc. from the homes of the people for redistribution. I suspect that if you are a responsible person and have put away food to protect your family that the govt. will charge you with hoarding as insult to injury.

    • independant thinker

      Be very careful who you tell about your food stocks and even then do not let anyone know the full extent of your supplies. You can also practice what might be called deception by truth. If the subject comes up tell your neighbor or whoever that you have enough to get by on for a couple of days in case of bad weather just do not let them know the true extent of your supplies.

      • 45caliber

        You are right. The same thing with weapons and ammo. I seldom mention having any for that very reason.

        • bob wire

          heck no! don’t tell people nothing.

          Besides what you might put up or stored and have ready to eat,

          Seeds, and basic things, like, fishing tackle, black power, learn to make things, learn to make do with simple things you can hunt, defend and eat.

          Develop a basic knowledge of chemistry and how things react, ~ Learn to create electricity with common things that’s easy to find anywhere.

          I’ve enjoyed canon making since I was 9 years old. Hand tools are important! Brace and Bit, draw knives, the old tools.

          357 is my preference as a cartridge for it’s weight, small size, power and ballistics,~ pistols and rifles that shot the same cartridge is a plus. If you find need for something bigger, you have your black power, you can shot rocks or bowling balls or make claymores, shake charges, whatever dictates.

          I recently view a series on the history channel about the most recent mini ice age. It was as recent as the mid 1800′s that we seen one year without a summer. Due to a volcano eruption the northern hemisphere suffered crop failure and millions died of hunger. It lasted many years.

          As late as Washington and his troops crossing the Delaware to inflict a stinging defeat to German conscripts marking the closing end of this period. ~ The Delaware was frozen that Christmas, and it wasn’t an easy crossing. That wasn’t really very long ago.

          All it would take is a another major volcanic eruption and I suspect that one is coming. ~ Our generation could miss it ~ or just as easily not.

          In any case, ~ control your space the best you can and let the good Lord take care of all the loose ends, the worry and fret. ~ That’s his primary purpose to each individual. To live a life without fear, you are now leaving alive.

          A darn insurance company won’t help you with this, if you are prepared, he be wanting to move in with you.

          • independant thinker

            “learn to make things, learn to make do with simple things you can hunt, defend and eat.”

            Good point. I often wonder how many of the posters on here could build a shelter with only hand tools. How many could safely cut and de-limb a tree with only an axe. How many have any knowledge of metal working and could turn a piece of iron into something useful or repair something with just a fire, piece of iron, and hammer.

      • Granny Mae

        independant thinker,

        I think it is too late for those of us no here to think about not telling anyone that we have stored food. Most all of us have stated that on here and it will be forever out there in cyber space ! Our best bet is to try to convince everyone we know to do as we have done and then there will be no need for confiscating food from anyone.

        • labouton

          Unfortunately, most of the people in my area live from paycheck to paycheck or less and they don’t have the means or inclination to put anything away. I feel those are the people to watch out for as when they get really hungry or thirsty—–

          • Granny Mae

            labouton,

            I think you are right. Those are the ones we will have to watch out for. I hate to say it but most people that I know can save a little even though they don’t make a lot of money. We are all in the habit of spending and not thinking about it. I know people that have next to nothing and yet they find money to buy cigarettes or sodas or beer. Some of them are right in my own family I hate to say. I see them buy the kids junk everytime they go to the store and they never get everything they need when they go because they don’t make use of a list. Instead they will run to the Jiffy store and pay $5.00 a gal for milk when they could get it for $3.00 a gal in town at the save-a-lot store ! They don’t fill their gas tank up when they see gas atit’s lowest price around, instead they go home and then decide they need gas and don’t have enough to get to the station where it is cheaper so they head to the Shell station and pay the high dollar ! Lots of money wasted that could be going into their food storage and instead of buying it from these survival places and paying the high dollar they could be doing a lot of their own and storing it away. They know that granny does all this so they will just come to see her! They may be in for a big surprise one day soon !

          • Granny Mae

            labouton,

            My grand kids laugh at me because I wash my plastic bags and reuse them. I buy the heavy bags and if there is no hole in them then I wash them and dry them and reuse them. I don’t throw them away because they are expensive and I can get more use out of them. I never throw away the heals of the bread. I cut them in cubes, dry them and put them in a bag and in the bread drawer until I get enough and then when I need bread crumbs I put them in the food processor, or I sprinkel them with melted butter and some herbs and grated chees and put them in the oven to toast and use them on salad, or I can make bread pudding out of them for desert some night for dinner ! The kids all love it but they won’t do it because they are to use to buying it at the store and don’t want to bother. I save a lot of money that way ! Everything I can make is one more thing I don’t have to buy and money I can spend somewhere else !

  • http://com i41

    eric siversion, Don’t for get the 30 million acres of non produce idle farm ground that the tax payer pay landowners to lay idle for the last 3 decades. Now the Fed. Game Fish & Parks is going to idle several more million acres of prime farm ground in 3 States(ND,SD, and Montana) for water fowl. The original Conservation Reserve Prgram was set up to raise the price of grain, modeled after the Soil Bank Program of the socialist FDR, it didn’t work then and will not work ever. In 2007 the democrap congress got rid of USA’s emergency grain supply stocks. Starting 2010 USA had less than 10 days disaster supply. Remeber in the spring of 2008 when commodity wheat prices went over %20 a bushel. because of no reserve stocks, the winter wheat that didn’t get planted in the fall and a late wet spring and beltway idoits were talking importing from Russia and Austriala. This last year took Russia and Austriala off of expotying wheat until next December and Flooding wiped out wheat. Between the government alphabet soup programs, with more coming every day, there will be a real die off. I have called representives of both parties and suggest cutting the farm programs today and it will save over $400 billion saving on just the farm bill. If the CRPas stopped, unemployment would drop because landowners would have to work or sell the ground, instead of working in towns and collecting free money for a plethra of programs. As for wildlife I could give a rat rear less about paying to raise wildlife, and let landowner s double dip to charge for hunting privilages on taxpayers rented land.

    • independant thinker

      “Now the Fed. Game Fish & Parks is going to idle several more million acres of prime farm ground in 3 States(ND,SD, and Montana) for water fowl.”

      It is my understanding that most if not all of this land is marginal for farming. When prices are high it is farmen when prices are lower it is not farmen as extensively.

    • 45caliber

      I agree about cutting these subsidies but I think you are off on the $400 billion. At least if that is what you expect in a single year. That would be one of the largest expenses on the budget! Those are military and welfare. We need the military spending. But I do agree that the government should get out of agriculture. One of the first laws every passed when this country was formed was about setting pricing on agricultural products.

  • http://amagnetaday.com Claudette

    Flynn and Others: Most of you are one-third right, but to survive you have to have provisions set aside so that you can take the information that you have learned to execute into a farm, ie garden, animals, trees, that will sustain you. Isn’t it ironical that the American farmer that America has almost destroyed will be the most likely to survive? I hope they’re not too bitter to help.

    • 45caliber

      And most farmers have old tractors that still run that will continue to run after an EMP wave from nukes or the sun. So they can keep farming for awhile (as long as they have fuel) or they can burn alcohol they can make. But as soon as the crops start producing, you can bet the government – if one still exists – will be trying to take all the produce for itself. Or the farmer may be raided.

  • DeJay

    If you feel you must have fire insurance, opt for the lowest cost. Like maybe just enough insurance to lay a foundation and build the shell. You’ll at least have a roof over your head. Then thr house can be finished as money comes in and this way you’ll avoid mortgage payments.

    • 45caliber

      Good idea. Insurance can be used for possessions as well, but it is expensive. They call it “renters insurance”.

  • http://com i41

    indepent thinker, You are way off on yuou thinking and understanding. I know 2 farmers where the corn made over 200 bushels an acre and soybeens were making 20-to 50 bushels an acre. Simce we have had several wet years, planting have been later, but the season lasted way longer and so harvest was way earlier. If the damn beltway airy fairies want to take land out of production, give up 2acres of parks and wlderness federal owned land for every 1 acre of farm ground. Same goes for the CRP programs, wheat feild that produced 50-100 bushels to acres of wheat, were idles. First landowners could only collect $50,000 dollars a year in land leases, landowners kids and custom farmers created multi leases to keep collecting more money, first the land owner collected $50,000> Then his child and him created a partnership, and the owner collected another $25,000 and the kid collected the other $25,000. The custom farmer and the land owner form another patnership and landowner got $25,000 and landowner collected the other $25,000, now he has made $100,000. I am giving you real cases where it has happened, and going as far as having a landowner and his unborn gandchild form a partnership, mother-in-law and father-in-law being in nursing homes forming partnerships. I take that the double dipping by landowner renting their land to the government, then charging hunter to hunt on their rented land is OK? If you rent an office is it OK with you for land lord to charge people to use the bathroom and the couch the you rented. Why should we spent several more billions on b–l s–t wildlife, for what is costs per pound of protein, to go hunt, it is cheaper to buy choice beefsteak at least 14 lbs of beef for one pound of wildgame. We have standrads for welfare mothers and the socialist democrats are just planning fulfilling UN and Onumnutts plan of doing awayu with private land ownership. Since it was passed by the UN in 2007, and Onumnutts plan of executive orders tyo take over private land. End one welfare program that costs us $400 billion a shot.

    • independant thinker

      I would be a lots more likely to believe you if your spelling and puntuation wasn’t a lots worse than mine (and mine is terrable).

      • B. Johnson

        AMEN! People, please at least use spell check on your posts before clicking the submit button! Imagine the liberals reading this and shaking their heads while saying “What a bunch of ignorant hicks.”

        • Granny Mae

          B. Johnson

          Sorry sweetie but my spell check doesn’t work on here or I certainly would use it! At my age I need all the help I can get !!

          • B. Johnson

            I was referring to i41 when I posted.

          • http://?? Joe H.

            Granny Mae,
            I get the gist of ALL your posts and if you can tell what the person is saying, then what the heck is the problem?? I think there’s too many spelling police on this site!

          • Dan az

            So Granny whats spell check?And do I have it on this thing and don’t know it?

          • Granny Mae

            Dan az,

            All I know is when I spell something wrong when I’m sending e-mail or writing letters the mis spelled word gets underlined in red and then I put the curser next to the word and right click and the correct spelling comes up and I can correct it, however it doesn’t work on here darn it ! I have been going to have my son do something about it if he can but I keep forgetting when he is here. I don’t know if there is any other kind of spell check or not !

          • libertytrain

            Granny Mae – I use Firefox instead of Explorer and it does have spell check on everything I do – red lines to underline words it thinks I misspelled here. Love it.

        • http://! Angel Wannabe

          Hey There B. Johnson___If our spellen is a bother, and us Hickks r too much fer ya, why don’t cha’ll tak ah powder :)__Have a great day!!!!

  • http://com i41

    .45 it is one of the biggies, since if you aren’t in all the b–l s–t farm programs, getting a total cost takes a while to add up. There is a program that pays land owner $7 an acre if they go no till, but the farmer must spend more money on pesticides and herbacides. As well as a tree planting program that pays over $1500 a acre for 10 years. If you have a walk hunting arteas, you will collect for the feds and some state government programs, all paid by the taxpayers. If you do farm you must have a ascsa offfical come out and check what you plant, where it is planted, as well as at harvestime,weight of grain coming off of each peice of land, and what bin it goes into, all must have a government ID number When you sell your crop what bin it came out as well as what elevator or commodity handler got it. Eeryone must have a ID number for everything as well as who hauled it. If you don’t comply with said guidelines, you are prohibited from free choice open market sales. Most of the ASCSA(Agriculture Soil Conservation Service Agency) clowns are are 20 something college grads, who never have farmed or did sh-t in life, in short educated idoits. The support staff is usually a old failed landowners, who inspects an takes global positing measurements. These redundant offices need to be cut out, we have emails and internet to get info and new ideas. All are part of the $400 billion number. As for (real farmers), their tractors they use are diesel and maybe a few old gas tractors. But Alterators would fry and any engine that older than might have generators. Alochol stills are closely monitored and it will be just like prohibition, grow sunflowers and any oil seed crops, run them thru a press for bio diesel. Also don’t forget several stacked seeds are sold with a requirement of you never keep seed for use the next year. Con-AG and ADM collect billions a year from farm programs, Contennital Grain farmed over 55,000 acres of wheat in the late 80s. It was sold to a Canadian who farmed for it, 10 years until he got caught collecting fed farm insurance of a couple million a year for a few years. He got off with a years of probation and having to sell his equipment for 4.3 million and no fine. He now owns some big housing complex down south and is as free as a bird. He was a democrat supported and contributed to several democrat senators. Don’t know if he has ties to Rangel or not.

    • Christin

      Wow, !41… red tape, regulations galore, and corrupt bureaucracies.. one way to reduce the number of farmers and opt for big corporate or government farms to control the food.

    • Granny Mae

      i41,

      How in the world does the little guy manage to farm and get by? Does any of this have to do with using GM seed? How in the world do we ever get rid of all those restrictions?

  • Void1972

    Did anyone ever think we would be talking like this in our time ten years ago? What the hell happened? How have we as Americans come to such a level of fear?
    I am sick and tired of all of this talk of hoarding food and survival gear!
    Lets do the right thing for our childrens future and the future of our great nation!
    Lets invest all of the money spent on these insane ideas of survival, and invested in weapons. Invest all of your time wasted on this PC on learning how to use your weapons as precice as possible!
    We the people are the only ones who can save our beautiful America!
    Lets get together and start figuring out who the evil ones are, the ones who are spraying our people like insects, stealing our money, our childrens futures, our homes, our country! Lets find out where they are and eliminate them and theirs with extreme predudice!
    Enough is enough!
    We can sit back and be slaughtered or we can strike back!
    God Bless America, and those who fight for her!!!

    • Granny Mae

      Void1972,

      I sure never did. But I have to say I had a feeling this was comming!

  • Arpad

    There are too many facts pointing to one having a real posibility of being without food if all goes down hill
    this helped me aussie.myefoods.co m

  • MN North

    For those of you wanting to buy water in bottles, the brand name for the Nestle Co. that’s using water from the Great Lakes is

  • MN North

    Ooooooooooooooooooops. Hit the wrong key. Sorry.

    Name of their product is ICE MOUNTAIN. As I understood Jesse Ventura’s program to say, Nestle has a plant on the southern end of Lake MI that taps into the water. They bottle it under the Ice Mountain brand name. Interesting that a Swiss company can siphon water out of an American lake and sell the water back to us. Yes, they also ship the water to China as was also mentioned in the program.

    • independant thinker

      Not that suprising at all that Nestle has a botteling plant here. This is the same company that makes Nestle chocolate and many other food products. They have a major presence in the US food products industry.

      • Granny Mae

        You know what? I won’t buy any products that I know are from Nestles ever again.

  • http://charden@neo.rr.com Charles

    Hey B johnson, aren`t all the Liberal`s from Ivey league schools?
    You don`t need to be an educated fool and be the greatest speller
    in the world.You do need to know what Obama stands for and who the people he has surrouned himself with stands for.Most people aren`t
    the best spellers and some don`t have spell check,I for one.Give me a person with common sense and I will take him any day over an educated
    fool.

    • Granny Mae

      Charles,

      Good post ! Amen

  • labouton

    I’ll be condemned for saying this but wanted to put some land in production, why don’t they take some of the land that is owned (tax free) from the churches? If I can remember correctly, the Catholic church alone has about 350,000 pristine acres.

    • Granny Mae

      labouton,

      I don’t know about the Catholic church having that kind of acreage, they may have but I do know that the Church of Jesus Christ of the Latter day Saints, has that kind of acreage down in the centeral Florida area. They use it to raise cattle on.

  • texastwin827

    Food, fuel & guns/ammo are not all that will be needed. Because we are so spoiled, as a nation, I have started accumulating info on Word Docs (printed, then saved on memory sticks) on various endeavors, such as How to Make Solar Ovens, How to make Solar panels, How to make Box Ovens (boy & girls scouting) etc. If you can’t afford to make or buy one of the expensive ones, you can actually build a solar oven from one of the aluminum foil-like windshield shades. One made from a car shade will reach cooking temps up to 350 degrees!

    I also have one called “The Basics” that has recipes for things we go out and buy, now…such as homemade mayonaise, ketchup, mustard, various seasonings, as well as cleaning supplies, etc. Keep in mind that any of this stuff could possibly become a source of income or at least bartering power since few people know how to do it.

    A third one is Camping recipes, just in case, the feeding of my family requires it to be done on a campfire. I have found that Dutch Oven’s make an outstanding tool for being ablt to cook a large variety of foods, outside.

    There are so many things available fairly inexpensively on ebay…solar cells that are blemished still work, but are cheaper. For those of you with knowledge, you could actually build solar panels for electric power.

    My daughter loves scented candles….so now she gives me the ones that will no longer burn (incl. the container) and for $4 in materials, I bought 18 ft of wick and the metal wick holders at Hobby Lobby. When I was through (I still have supplies left over), I had melted the saved waxed and made 12 additional candles out of the left over wax. I even have a “recipe” on how to make candle wicks out of cotton twine! Same with kerosene lamps…you can use vegetable or olive oil, although the veg. oil will smoke.

    Large Mop buckets with wringers…may be our next washing machine. I also can sew, so I’ve considered stocking up on thread, zippers, etc just in case I ever needed that skill to make our own clothes or $$ to help support my family or to teach others how to. My next “purchase” will be of an old working treadle machine (which is what my mother taught me on) since electricity is not needed, for them.

    Much of your preparation should not just be on stockpiling but preparation for a time that there are few of the modern day conviences available. Think of and prepare for the late 1800′s-early 1900′s period, instead.

    • Granny Mae

      texastwin827,

      A lot of us have done that very thing. I do most of that everyday just for myself to get by on. I sew and make candles and wicks and oil lamps and so on, but I’m afraid there is not the desire out there to learn these skills any more. It is a shame because you never know when you will need the knowledge. I will say this though, if you are going to store all these things you need a lot of room. I know because I have them all stored already. I have a forty foot vacation trailer that is loaded with just such storage. Some people have to budget their storage area for necessities. Wish you lived close by. Sounds like we have a lot of interrests in common ! LOL !

      • Granny Mae

        To incourage others out there,

        Let me tell you that in the past two days I have canned four jars of Italian sausage, and 7 jars of meatballs, and 7 jars of sloppy joes and tomorrow I will be doing some more. All for the storage, so come on people get on the ball and get R done !

      • texastwin827

        LOL at 40 ft travel trailer for storage….now that is some advanced thinking there! The trailer would definitely make it easier transporting all that stuff, should you need to move it. I don’t have a lot of storage room as I live with my daughter, son in law & granddaughters…who don’t believe there will ever be a need for stockiling. Actually, it’s my youngest daughter (28) who believes we are approaching not only an era of shortages but that, in her lifetime, there will be 2nd American Revolution.

        Fortunately for our young people, while our generation is probably as “spoiled” to all the conveniences, as they are, most of us didn’t grow up that way. Our parents passed many things on, firsthand, to us and many of us may not have been poor but our parents went through the depression so they knew how to survive on less and often continued to do so, long after the depression was over.

        I have also invested in some of the inexpensive outdoor solar lights and, once a month, I buy a cheap flashlight & batteries. If you know how or someone who knows how, the solar lights can also be wired up to a solar panel that would allow you to mount them inside your home and their charge comes from the solar panel.

        While I have no way of “farming” except perhaps in containers, I figure if I have items that someone would want, I may be able to use them to trade for things I need, especially food.

        My daughter has a Toyota Prius…so I’m going to get as big of a power inverter for it, as I can. A power inverter would make it possible to charge items that are battery operated and, if you have one large enough, you can actually operate a heating or A/C unit or fridge or other large appliances. Granted you would have to stockpile gasoline too but we already have a lot of it for all the gas powered yard tools, so what’s a few more 5 gal cans of the stuff?

        I’m in the Austin area….what state are you in? Glad to meet you. I could probably learn from you! hehe

        • Granny Mae

          texastwin827,

          I am in Florida. North central area not too far from the Georgia state line. As for that travel trailer, I sure don’t know why they called it a travel trailer because that thing is so big that I would hate to travel anywhere with it. We bought it when we first bought our property so we would have something to stay in while we were clearing and building. Now I use it for storage and I’m glad to have it. I keep all my food storage in the house and the paper products and such out there. Looking at it today, I’m thinking I should clear it out and straighten it out. We use out of it and sometimes you have to dig around for what you want. I have totes full of material and sewing patterns and yarn for knitting and crocheting and you name it I think I have it. Sure wish Austin was closer I would be there for coffee one day ! lol ! Your youngest daughter may just be right. I watched a program today about what the biggest problems are for the people in this country. and boy it was a little scary. Seems we have a lot of problems that most of us don’t even think about. I think a lot of people on this blog have a pretty good handle on things but this is a small number compared to all the people in this country. This program was saying that the biggest threats to us at this point in time are terrorism and water along with food problems. They suggest people should have their food supplies local as we are too dependent on food being shipped in from long distances. With the fuel problems we are getting into there is a big possibility of food shortages due to not enough fuel to get the food to our local stores and there is not enough food in the stores to last but a couple days if that does occure. They were also telling the audience that we should try to get everyone we know to listen and do something about it for our own self. They are concerned that too many people don’t think there is a problem and when it becomes appearent to them it will be to late and some people will be starving. You are smart in putting aside things that you can use for trading because they were also talking about curency being a problem and believe it or not the one thing that floored me was a man that works with robots and is warning that engineers are working on robots that willbe smarter than humans and could have the ability to take over ! I couldn’t hardly believe it ! Sounds so out there ! But I guess today anything is possible. The water thing was dealing with waster shortages and also substances in our water that is not removed in our water treatment plants. As a for instance they said that scientists are finding caffine in fish being caught that has never been there before, along with medicines and hormones and viruses etc. It is a very freightening combination of things happening at the same time. We need to do something about it or we will sure be suffering in a few years to come ! By the way I canned some more sloppy Joes today! 7qts. tomorrow it will be some soup ! Then I will be dehydrating a few things !

          • Granny Mae

            By the way we have inverters here too ! My husband was saying after that program he thought he might build some kind of a windmill! We will see! All he needs is another project to do !!!

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