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Spying On Your Neighbor

December 10, 2010 by  

Spying On Your Neighbor

With those children, he thought, that wretched woman must lead a life of terror. Another year, two years, and they would be watching her night and day for symptoms of unorthodoxy… It was almost normal for people over thirty to be frightened of their own children. And with good reason, for  hardly a week passed in which the Times did not carry a paragraph describing how some eavesdropping little sneak — ”child hero” was the phrase generally used — had overheard some compromising remark and had denounced his parents to the Thought Police.
 — 
1984, George Orwell

Big Brother — or more accurately in this case, Big Sister — is invading your local Wal-Mart, 9,000 Federal buildings, businesses, communities and sporting events with video message boards, or telescreens, right out of George Orwell’s 1984.

Department of Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano on Monday announced the plan to expand the “If You See Something, Say Something” public awareness campaign to Wal-Mart stores nationwide. On Wednesday, DHS issued a press release announcing other partners taking part in the program were, “Mall of America, the American Hotel & Lodging Association, Amtrak, the Washington Metropolitan Area Transit Authority, the sports and general aviation industries, and state and local fusion centers across the country.” ("Fusion centers" refers to the 72 facilities that were created after the 9/11 attacks to allow for more pervasive and coordinated surveillance by governments.) And there are plans to expand the program in the coming months.

The message encourages people to watch for “suspicious” behavior and report it to the government. It’s right out of 1984, or Soviet Russia or Nazi Germany. It’s totalitarian, police-state tactics designed to foster suspicion and create unease under the guise of keeping us safe.

It’s creepy enough that messages from Big Sister will be bombarding people standing in the checkout lines at the local Wal-Mart. But go to the website peopleofwalmart.com and then ask yourself, “Do I want someone like that watching me for suspicious activity?”

And then ponder whom the government considers terrorists. It’s not al-Qaida the government is concerned with. According to the DHS report from 2009, Rightwing Extremism: Current Economic and Political Climate Fueling Resurgence in Radicalization and Recruitment, possible terrorists include people opposed to President Barack Obama, those upset by the high unemployment rate, supporters of gun rights, those who believe in conspiracy theories involving a coming martial law declaration and the creation of detention camps, those who stockpile food, ammunition and weapons in anticipation of a collapse, military veterans and Christians. And a report from the Missouri Information Analysis Center called libertarians, supporters of Ron Paul, Bob Barr and Chuck Baldwin and militia group members possible terrorists.

History has shown that programs like this are not designed to keep people safe. They are designed to quash dissenting views, stifle free speech and generate fear and suspicion. Programs like this are ripe for abuse, with neighbors reporting neighbors in order to avenge some slight or end a disagreement.

It’s the mark of the end of a free society.

Bob Livingston

is an ultra-conservative American who has been writing a newsletter since 1969. Bob has devoted much of his life to research and the quest for truth on a variety of subjects. Bob specializes in health issues such as nutritional supplements and alternatives to drugs, as well as issues of privacy (both personal and financial), asset protection and the preservation of freedom.

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  • DaveH

    Damn,
    I’m a possible terrorist. Who would have thunk it? I guess believing that my neighbor should have the freedom to control his own body and his own property makes me dangerous.

    • Harold Olsen

      You especially are a terrorist if you foolishly believe in the US Constitution and believe that our politicians should not only obey it but enforce it. The present regime, after all, considers the US Constitution to be an illegal document. I believe in the Constitutions so I guess that makes me a terrorist also. If so, I consider it an honor!

      • JiimCO

        As opposed to the previous one that okayed the NSA to read your email or listen in on your phone calls? And who can forget operation TIPS?

        Operation TIPS, where the last part is an acronym for the Terrorism Information and Prevention System, was a domestic intelligence-gathering program designed by President George W. Bush to have United States citizens report suspicious activity. The program’s website implied that US workers who had access to private citizens’ homes, such as cable installers and telephone repair workers, would be reporting on what was in people’s homes if it were deemed “suspicious.”

        Neighbor spying on neighbor … J Edgar would have approved!

        • Bus

          6th Amendment: …and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him;”

          These kind of tactics are why this was put into the Bill of Rights. Maybe we could put in a few (hundred) calls about the suspicious behavior exhibited by the TSA.

          • erik

            You’re right! To be placed on a list is to be accused. The amendment says everyone has a right to be made aware of accusations in order that the accusers be confronted to end the matter- one way or another. It results in guilt or innicence , however, the accusation MUST be made known to the accused. It is an absolute right.

          • http://YouHaveBeenProfiled. AugieD

            More than 3 years ago the US Government demanded the search history from yahoo, google, and others. And they got them. Private searches form all users who carelessly looked for evidences of Government Improprieties, 9-11 Conspiracy Theories, and yes, even Porn. That’s right, they have a record of everything you & I ever searched for. They have profiled everyone as a result. Oh, they did this under the guise of trying to catch child pornographers. Although child pornographers are too smart to use open search channels. They use peer to peer for a reason. I’m sure by now, the U.S. D.H.S. captures emails and even keystrokes now in real-time as well as listens to your phone calls. It’s espionage for 2010. And it’s coming down to an “Us vs. Them” scenario…soon! And…it’s coming to a town near you!

        • JC

          Oh you think this is a Left /Right thing…
          Not at all. It’s Bankers against Americans. And they’ve used EVERY administration since the Fed was illegally brought in to further their agenda. So let’s not waste time pointing fingers like children.
          The US, Canada and Mexico just announced a new border deal that looks likely to include a new currency for all….
          So much for National Soveriegnty.

          • Anthony

            You tell him, JC.

            Wake up Sheeple. Do your homework!

        • http://?? Joe H.

          JimCO,
          Do me a favor. go to your library and see if they have a copy of the book Puzzle Palace. It was written about 15 to 20 years ago and tells about the NSA and how it is the only government agency to not have a set budget! It also tells about the fact that they have computer programs that allow them to listen in on phone calls and that they DO!!! PLEASE, PLEASE read it!!! This was, mind you twenty years ago!!! Long before Bush was in office!!!

      • Rick

        I can only surmise that these elitists were never taught history, and
        never heard the terms “HEIL HITLER” or “COMRADE”. I was taught that
        History has a way of repeating itself. I wonder why the Pilgrims left
        their native land? I know, but I doubt that the Obamaphiles do!

        • eddie47d

          That was a lot of scattershot.Are you trying to compare pumpkins to peas?

        • Anthony

          Rick – go back and read up.

          The (so-called) Elite-ists are the ones who grew fascism, to become Nazism. They are also the same ones who made sure Adolph was THA MAN to be positioned as he was.

          If you do your homework -YOU WILL FIND that The Federal Reserve is who actually made sure there was a BOOM in Germany during the 1930′s, while they MADE SURE the U.S. suffered in a deep Depression. These are facts in evidence.

          • Al Sieber

            Anthony,You’re right on that one, I agree 200%.

        • iowaheretic

          Why weren’t you complaining when G.W.Bush signed Hitler’s Enabling Act of 1933 into American law after “911″, or when it was introduced during the Clinton administration? American presidents were selling out the American people long before Obama came along. He’s just another puppet of whoever’s pulling the apron strings anyway. There are far worse people damaging America than the president, no matter who the president happens to be, like the “shadow government”, whoever they are.

          • kodster5

            That would be George Soros… multi-billionaire anti-American deadset on bankrupting and ruining America to make it a part of the EU.

    • JLC

      DaveH — That makes two of us. As a WWII veteran, and a life member of NRA, I fall into at least two of the suspect classifications. As you say, “Who’d a-thunk it?”

      • eddie47d

        You need to see the list if there is one and then form an opinion from there.

        • Anthony

          You mean, you can’t provide that List for us?

          You comment as if you’ve already seen it.

        • DaveH
          • DaveH

            Unfortunately, the document has been scanned in and there is no easy way to search for terms. So you have to read (or scan) the whole piece of biased propagandistic crap to find anything. The sentence about Libertarians, Ron Paul, etc. is on the 7th page (of 8).

          • Al Sieber

            You’re right Dave, that came out a few years ago, thanks for posting it.

          • http://?? Joe H.

            DaveH,
            There is one for veterans as well. woopee! I made the honor roll!!!

          • Dan az

            If the truth makes all of us terrorist then what does the Govument lies make them?Every thing in there is about everything that is going on as we speak.No matter who your are or what you belive in if you are here you are a terrorist.Funny how things get turned around,commie Good constitutionalist bad.I said it before I really think that we all just woke up one morning on the other side of the mirror.So who going to tell granny mae that she is now a terrorist?lol

    • independant thinker

      This sounds to me like an excellent idea. Be aware of others activities and report suspicious behavior.

      Of course as it is implimented things will become even worse than Bob said in the article. Don’t like your neighbor, report him for suspicious activity, someone cut you off in traffic, report um, teachers won’t raise your lazy kids failing grade even report them.

      So, this is actualy a terrible idea and should be stopped NOW if at all possible.

      As far as not shopping at Wallyworld, I have not “shopped” there for years I pass up two to go to Kmart and one to purchase groceries. I will on rare occasions run into Wallyworld to pick up an odd item.

      • http://?? Joe H.

        independant thinker,
        Wally world caused our local K-mart to close. Now I go to Target and I hate it!! The pharmacist at K-mart was like family to us! She served three generations of my family! Service was this ladys middle name and she was a real people person!!

        • independant thinker

          Sorry your Kmart closed. Ours is open and doing great in fact from what I hear it is one of the better ones in the company profit wise. When I moved here there was a wally world about 6-8 blocks down the road from the Kmart they moved wally within a couple of blocks of Kmart then built a super Wally world next door but fortunatly the people here like Kmart well enough that it is still open and doing great.

        • Dan az

          Joe H
          we lost ours to when they put in two super wallys in just five miles apart. It would be funny to find out that soros was involved during the restructuring phase.wounder if there is a way to find out?

          • http://?? Joe H.

            Dan az,
            Probably thought only conservatives would like K-mart!!! Good ole’ S.S Kreske!!!

    • EddieW

      Remember? That’s exactly what Stalin did!!! Only when you reported someone, guilty or not they simply were killed!!! Our police state is coming just as rapidly as it did under Stalin!!! Even if I saw my neighbor making what I thought was a bomb…I would not report him!!! If he said he was going to kill some people…I’d report him in a heartbeat!!

    • KayDeeBeau

      I turned myself in to the Dept of Homeland Security via an e-mail when this report first came out last year (or whenever it was). I gave them my description, SS#, place and date of birth, address, longitude and latitude coordinates, phone #, identifying marks,etc with the message that if a 48 year old, church going, gun owning, constitution loving, tea-partying woman was more terrifying to them than Osama Bin Laden and since they were having such a hard time finding him, I would try to make their job easier by pointing them directly to me & saving my tax dollars for the search they would now need to take to identify and find others like me. So far I haven’t heard from them or seen them!!

      • ganny may

        You are so right, never saw the Govt. do anything well yet, even when they had a play by play in front of them. Hope this won’t be the first time they get it right. You definitely have spunk, hate to see them come after you.

  • Angel Wannabe

    Indoctrination at it’s finest, while standing in the check out line at your local walmart?__First of all, I wanna know why they picked Walmart?

    Well_ they might as well add me to they’re watch list, But I’m fairly sure I’m already on it!_See check list below,

    Christian_YES
    Believe in Free Speech_YES
    Opposed to Obama’s policies_YES
    Food_YES, we like to eat once in a while.
    Believe in keeping and bearing arms_YES

    Am I watching my neighbor?_NO, but the dogs visit every so often and so far they think the neighbors check out OK.
    BTW, Might I add Bob, you forgot to add a couple more serious threats, those of us who watch and listen to Glenn Beck, Limbaugh and Fox news!
    I think these people in Washington, DHS in particular have finally flipped they’re freaking lids!__As if people aren’t paranoid enough, our Government even encourages it. Sadly they’re are those who’ll listen and put it all into practice. Stop being sheep folks!
    Chaos and more Chaos!

    • Mick

      Angel, they better add me to the list as well……………….

      • Al Sieber

        Angel and Mick,I know I’m on the list.

        • Mick

          Al Sieber says:
          December 10, 2010 at 7:57 am
          Angel and Mick,I know I’m on the list
          ******************************

          Al Sieber… Good morning Al……..
          I figured that otherwise I would have to call you a “LIBERAL ” that would break my heart,,,,he,,he,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

          • Angel Wannabe

            Mick and AL S__I think whats most heart breaking about this whole thing, is there are people who will actually listen too the Government and do as they’re told, as TIME said.
            The Progressive agenda is moving at breakneck speed now, I’ve never seen such changes take place in such a short period of time. We’ve seen changes in the past, but they were more subtle. And rumor has it now, that Soros isn’t happy with Obama. I can’t imagine why?_So far Obama and his band of Merry Thieves have done a fine job transforming America into European Socialism right before our eyes, (Sarcasm applied). The arrogance, the lack of fear of the progressives is appalling.

          • eddie47d

            Looks like Bob has you all twittered today. That is normal but he went overboard with HIS List and you bit into it like a Dunkin Donut! I’m more fearful of what he is implying than the big sister argument that he is forcing into your minds. It’s common sense to be aware of your surroundings but not everybody takes it seriously. Is the government overreacting or trying to get us to take our lives and the security of the country more seriously? (some people do report paper bags on the sidewalk and the bomb squad has to come out)That is overreacting!

          • Angel Wannabe

            Eddie, what’s really sad & concerning, is that all of this is unfolding before our very eyes, and you STILL have no ears to hear and no eyes to see. You’ll be OK though, your leaders will care for you.

          • Kate8

            Geez, eddie. What’s really scary is that there are so many like you who don’t find anything alarming about the government declaring half the country to be possible terrorists.

            To bring up an old point: the only acts of violence noted among assemblies of citizens has been from the Left. Yet, it’s the right the government wants watched. Why? Could it be that they are TRYING to push us over the edge?

            BTW, we recently had a “homegrown terrorist” set fire in a nearby mall. So much damage was done that it will be months before it can reopen. Funny thing, I can guarantee you that the perp was NOT any of those things on the list. In fact, my best guess is that he was on drugs and someone put him up to it. Someone with an agenda.

          • eddie47d

            Republican Nixon pulled the same thing you are talking about now. Citizens on the left were wiretapped all the time and called brown shirts and many other choice names. Arrests were common and freedom of speech was silenced with a billy club. That seemed to be okay with the conservatives of the day who wanted them all shot. Obama hasn’t even come close to anything that the conservatives approved of back then. Our government didn’t care about rights back then and attacked folks on horse back and with weaponry. Obama values the right of people to assemble and hasn’t sent out the gestapo police like conservatives endorsed in the “good ol’ days”. That’s when spying and snitchin’ on citizens was in vogue.

          • Angel Wannabe

            eddie my boy,_ I hate to burst your bubble, but Nixon didn’t do anymore or any less than the rest of the politicians that’s graced the White House, the thing is, he got caught!

          • eddie47d

            He did much more. Him and Spiro Agnew were even outspoken and bragged about it. That of coarse could have been cover while they plotted Watergate. I think you are the one who needs to put something between your ears and bone up on reality.

          • Kate8

            eddie, How can you use wrongs of the past to justify doing them today? It’s okay to build upon past wrongs only if you’re progressive, because it’s surely for our own good. If a conservative does it, it’s bad. If a progressive does it, it’s good, even if it was bad when the conservative did it. Unless it’s still bad, but the conservative did it first, so it’s okay because it is still their fault.

            Progressives think up enough evil all by themselves, and part of that is blaming someone else when they do.

            Sheesh, eddie. You just can’t have it both ways. But you guys sure keep trying.

          • Anthony

            What a hoot … “while THEY planned Watergate” ….

            Talk about re-writing history….

          • Dan az

            EddiEEEEEEE
            I know your on the list!You may sound like a liberal but I told them that you were just pretending and that you live in your mothers basement and have allot of janets and obumers pictures all over the walls.they said they are watching you and thanks for the tip!Dont mention it I was just being a good citizen!

          • Al Sieber

            Mick, I’ve been on that list since the early 1970′s, I wouldn’t have it anyway.

          • http://?? Joe H.

            mick,
            when you said you would have had to call Al a liberal, I flinched!! I thought my screen would explode right at me!!He,He!!!! Got cha Al!!

          • http://?? Joe H.

            dan az,
            wow! now edduuhhhh! is on the list TWICE!!! I told them that he was the one that convinced me and a lot of others to vote against Nobummer and to push for the right to bear arms!!!! They said that they had already gotten a call before and they appreciated my proper watchfulness!!! Hey! I wonder if that other caller could have been you???

          • Dan az

            Joe
            Ive got them on speed dial.They really like the way I give them the info on old eddie about his bomb making in the basement Isnt life grand?

          • Al Sieber

            Liberal my ass, you guys are too much.

          • http://?? Joe H.

            Al sieber,
            Liked that did ya Al??? I gotta agree, being called a liberal IS about the lowest thing someone could call ya!!!

          • Al Sieber

            JoeH, what’s really bad is a Communist, I’m glad Mick is paying attention, and has a sense of humor.

          • eddie47d

            Dang it Kate 8 you’re not the only one who needs to put something between their ears. Several are dragging up Stalin and Hitler and you think the Progressives “like to dig up the past”. Come up with something a little better next time.

          • http://?? Joe H.

            Al,
            Communist–Liberal–aren’t they about the same???

          • eddie47d

            Joe Blow; Then conservative =Fascists.

        • Dan az

          Al you head the list!lol

          • Al Sieber

            Dan, I’ve headed the list for years, and proud of it.

      • Jana

        Angel,
        You are too funny. I love it. Especially about your dogs.

        Actually, I always thought if we saw something suspicious, like someone stealing or someone buying 30 cell phones, that you ought to report it to someone. So far I never have seen the cell phone thing, but I have seen someone stealing. The lady was putting items in her purse and walked out of the store. I did tell a store employee but she just shrugged and said, “Oh well.” I obviously told the wrong employee, but I didn’t carry it further.

        I would also sound an alarm if someone left a bag somewhere.It might be a bomb, so I would be inclined to say something then for sure. My husband tells me to be aware of my surroundings, so I do try to be, but hey when you are buying groceries you are working! I am trying to get in and out fast, therefore I’m not looking for anyone to act suspicious. I might be acting suspicious myself, especially on a bad hair day when I don’t want to run into anyone I know.

        • Angel Wannabe

          Jana, I reported someone too, about 12 years ago in a drug store. This woman grabbed handfuls of make-up, put in her coat pocket and walked out into the mall, then she’d return, and did it at least 4 times._There was little or no reaction by the guy behind the counter, when I reported it. He never went after her although she was still in the store. I couldn’t believe it and just walked away.

        • Angel Wannabe

          Jana, do like I do if I’m lazy and don’t like putting makeup on, I wear sunglasses and western hat!__lol

      • S.C.Murf

        Hell I’ve been on it since the 60′s. What are they going to do kill me and send me home to the Father?

        • Angel Wannabe

          SC Murf, Anyone that opposes Obama is gonna to be found on their lists._Now, Sadly I wonder how long it will be before our Bibles are configated?

          • http://?? Joe H.

            Angel,
            Like my guns they will get my Bible from my cold dead hands!!!

          • Angel Wannabe

            Damn Right Joe! ;)

    • Harold Olsen

      I don’t know why they picked Wal-Mart either, but then, I really don’t care. I’ve never been to a Wal-Mart and have no idea where the nearest one is and wouldn’t shop there if I did. As for Federal Buildings, I haven’t been in one in years. I wouldn’t be surprised if the Obama regime is monitoring my Internet usage and probably my Blackberry as well.

      • D.SMITH

        New here…but I must say they’ll be checking my Blackberry too. Why Wal-Mart? They’ve become this one stop shop so to speak for American Living brand clothing (made in China), GMO groceries, and Big Pharma drugs, amongst all the other crap they sell in there. So the masses flock there and cluck around like chickens; an easily manipulated group of gullibles in one lump sum…

        Basically it’s the only place where everybody’s dumb enough to fall for this new “security” act.

        • Kate8

          D.SMITH – Wasn’t it WalMart where the stampede took place on Black Friday?

          That should be self-explanatory.

          • http://?? Joe H.

            Kate8,
            Probably because now Wally world is now the largest employer in the US! more stores than any other retailer! Looking at what Wal Mart has become, you just know Sam Walton is rolling over and over in his grave!!! I hope God lets him get his revenge!!!

    • Wanda Murline

      If I should ever shop at Wall Mart again after they install the cameras, I certainly intend to honor them with an award on checking out…it is called “The Flying Fickle of Finger Award”. This would be a good time for K-Mart to open some Super Centers, cause I will stop shopping at Wall Mart and hope that others who are resistent to this new government control will do the same. As Obama said, vote for him for change so “We live in the greatest country in the world, help me change it.” Hope that the change was what everyone was thinking.

      • Angel Wannabe

        Great reply Wanda! We should flip them off, not that it would make any difference, except for making us feel better_;)

        • J.M.R.

          might just as well the weasel reid flips us off

          • http://personallibertydigest bbman

            we could use this to our advantage & start calling when we see all the illegals in walmarts on there day Sundays we are already terrorists. what we got to lose.

          • Angel Wannabe

            bbman, Oh hell we’d never get off the phone!!_Just a chuckle! :)

          • http://?? Joe H.

            Angel,
            neither would they, so this would be a bad thing, how????

      • Dan az

        Wanda I wouldnt waist my time at K mart either they are own by the french and refuse to let veterans put jars or posters at their stores So know all veterans here will be boycotting them.They dont like vets!

        • http://?? Joe H.

          Dan az,
          you sure that isn’t just your store??? I have put a lot of posters up at ours for everything from highschool rival football games to block watch meetings!! I have put up an announcement of a vets meeting as well. I always wear my Viet Nam vets hat when I went in there as well. I still miss them as i hate wally world and Target!!

          • Dan az

            Maybe Joe this vet came in to the shop and posted some info on the door and told us that k mart and target wouldnt let them post anything from a veteran so now they are going around spreading the word to boycott them here.I dont go to stores period dont like crowds but Ill have the wifey sheck it out.

          • Claire

            Both Wal-Mart stores here in town hire a lot of physically handicapped people and that is good, also they hire a lot of vets.

        • independant thinker

          Kmart is owned by Sears Holding Company which is a publicly traded company on the NY stock exchange. While it is possible the french own stock in it they do not own Kmart. The local Kmart lets vets post things just as often as they let anyone else do it.

          • http://?? Joe H.

            independant thinker,
            I think if you check a little closer you will find that K-mart owns sears. They bought them out just after they went chapter 13. MANY people questioned how K-mart could buy anything after going chapter13 but they did!

          • independant thinker

            I think if you check a little closer you will find that K-mart owns sears. They bought them out just after they went chapter 13. MANY people questioned how K-mart could buy anything after going chapter13 but they did

            JoeH

            I guess we are both correct. I was working for Kmart at the time and it is true they bought Sears but they put Sears and Kmart into a holding company and called it Sears Holding. As I remember Kmart bought Sears about 3 years after they declared Chapter 13. Kmart had one of the best turnarounds in a business that had to declare chapter 13

    • http://none sean moor

      THIS IS NAZI GERMANY, AND OTHER COUNTRIES LIKE IT. ALL OVER AGAIN!!!

      • eddie47d

        Not even close! Too many don’t have a clue how truly evil nazi Germany was. Go think about what really happened during those years and then contemplate your life in America.Even with the economy the way it is there is no comparison.

        • Kate8

          eddie, Those in Nazi Germany didn’t know how evil things were, either, including the Jews, until it was too late. Some still didn’t see it because they were conditioned not to.

          I have German friends who lived it. They say things looked alarmingly like what we see here today. Some give warning, but too many don’t perceive it and make fun of those who do.

          • eddie47d

            Germany was a mess after WWI so there is still no comparison for any American! Your another one comparing pumpkins to peas.

      • Karolyn

        OMG! Tal abot exagerration! I am grateful to be living in this country, although I feel I was born too late. I would rather have lived in the 1800s. On the other hand, I’me glad to have grown up in the 50s and 60s and won’t be around to see the 2050s and 60s.

        • Karolyn

          These damn keyboard keys! “Talk about exagerration”

          • Kate8

            Try “exaggeration”.

  • TIME

    Folks just try and grasp this ~ its the same thing that was going on in Germany in the 1920 -30 as the Hitler Youth got up and running.
    These special kids were spying on their own Parents, just so you can grasp this, {67% of all Hitler Youth’s} turned their own parents in to the SS or Police for something!!!!!!!

    25% of the Hitler Youth “Killed one or Both” of their Parents due to a preceived transgression toward the Reich.
    Can I make the picture any more clear for you.

    Its happening right here right now. And its been going on for years, you just think whats happening is for your own saftey.

    Did any of you know that SS Doctors were brought to the US after the war, look in to Opperation Paper Clip; some worked on Plum Island, some worked in the South West, what were they doing?
    Finishing up what they started in Germany in the 1930′s.
    But “NOW its YOU” that are being trageted.

    Who funded the Germans in WWII? Ask that question look the intel up yourselfs don’t take my word for it. What you will find should blow your socks off as the names of all the corporation are all the same, the same bankers, the same familys, if your not rocked to the core after you do your homework your brain dead.

    PLEASE WAKE UP….

    • Castaway

      I have been woke up for many years, and you are awake, so now what? Are there enough of us to do what needs to be done? Has the government immigrated enough of the correct kind of people, from socialist,and muslim countries, so we are now the minority? The school system has been slyly swaying our children towards socialistic, and liberal ideals. For all these reasons, I feel our window of opportunity is rapidly closing. In all my life, I have never seen anything like what the Democrats are now doing, and how fast they are working to get it done.

      • Mick

        Castaway says:
        December 10, 2010 at 7:31 am
        I have been woke up for many years, and you are awake, so now what? Are there enough of us to do what needs to be done? Has the government immigrated enough of the correct kind of people, from socialist,and muslim countries, so we are now the minority? The school system has been slyly swaying our children towards socialistic, and liberal ideals. For all these reasons, I feel our window of opportunity is rapidly closing. In all my life, I have never seen anything like what the Democrats are now doing, and how fast they are working to get it done.

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        Castaway,,I have been saying the same thing for years only to be looked upon as a nut. People were convinced that America couldn’t be touched because of its greatness but as I told many long ago,” You keep messing with a good recipe and keep adding too many different ingredients you will ruin the dish “

        • Angel Wannabe

          Me too Mick, my kids thought I was wacked until two years ago. I started sending them links and telling them to cross match whats going on today, they’ve since seen the light too.

          • Kate8

            AngelW – Same here. I’ve been trying to tell my family and friends this stuff for years, and I was the village nut. All I really did was urge them to start paying attention but, no. It couldn’t happen here.

            Most of them are starting to see that something isn’t right, now.

            TIME, Scripture says that children will turn against parents, neighbor against neighbor. How many liberals like eddie will just stand by and watch while millions of good folks are rounded up, just because they are conservative.

      • TIME

        Castaway,

        If your awake your going to have to become a “leader” when the Crap hits the fan. Being a leader means you have to be able to explain why, how, & when, and keeping a cool and level head at all times.

        We will not be able to save the country as you grew up in.
        We are going to be taking a “massive step backwards.”

        Think living in the 1920′s during the darkest hours, thats what we are facing and this will last for many years to come.
        Our Government will need to be 100% restructured, I feel strongly that there may end up being areas of the country that just fail to be part of the United states anylonger.

        So to answer your question; BE STRONG, BE WISE, BE thinking way out side the BOX, as a matter of fact just remove all walls and drop the box.
        If we stay in the BOX, we will be 6 feet under.

        **Read The Art of War, “understand it completely.” Learn how to live with out many of the things we have become hooked on, like Sugar, Coffee, Cigrettes, many food items, no Reservation at your special place, little to no gas, think about what happens when the stores are not there to go and buy stuff you need.

        And yes the radicals on the wacky Left, we all know as Marxist will bottom up it.

        We can only hope that the top down the Military fails to enforce.
        If they do, its all over anyway.

        • eddie47d

          I’m more worried about the wacky Right and their strange behavior.The carping on the Right is like one big echo chamber with all your conspiracy theories. You actually could be right on some things but you cry wolf so much it will all be ignored.

          • TIME

            Eddie No “conspiracy throey” dude, its whats called History repeating its self. Do some reading on the topic of the TR era, the Russian Reveloution, if thats not enough then look in to Pot Pol, also spend some time looking in to the Rise of Mao, and Castro.

            I am not happy about any wackOs, but as the bottom UP will be these very wackOs, they will be the very first to be wacked. But not unlike anything else some will survive and fester like pus filled maggots filled with hate.

          • Kate8

            eddie – “…you cry wolf so much that it will all be ignored”.

            That is exactly what the PTB count on. It’s what they’ve always counted on. It’s human nature, and they exploit it to the max.

            Just like issuing warnings of upcoming possible “attacks”. When nothing happens, everyone scoffs and stops listening. Then one day, KABOOM! Hit when you least expect it.

            It’s important to know how the enemy thinks, just as they know how we think. How YOU think. If you are complicit, then you are the enemy, too.

          • eddie47d

            If you overreact you also become complacent in your own thoughts and accept fear as normal behavior. Time rightfully brings up history but most people in Germany faithfully accepted the fate of the Jews. They thought it was normal and went along with the program. No second thoughts and some eagerly took over their homes and possessions. I’m always baffled by those on this site who want the extermination or deportation of all Muslims in America. Few are evil or terrorists yet you don’t give it a second thought and don’t challenge those who want them out of this country. Remember, only a few dozen Jews ever caused trouble for Germany and millions paid the price.

          • Kate8

            Yes, eddie, but first the Jews were singled out as being a threat, were marginalized, ridiculed and feared. People were brainwashed to dehumanize them, so they were relieved to see them taken away. For the good of the people.

            That’s exactly what is being done to Christians and conservatives today. It’s never done out of the blue. People have to be “nudged”.

            It’s an atrocity, no matter who does it or how many times.

          • Karolyn

            Kate – Aren’t you conservatives constantly saying you represent the majority? Then how can you say that christians and conservatives are being singled out if you are the majority? How could that ever happen?

          • Angel Wannabe

            karolyn, the only requirment is one side having a stick or a bigger mouth!

          • TIME

            Karolyn,

            Just for the record, in Germany in the 1930′s less than 25% supported the NAZI’S. As I recall the numbers were some where in the 22% range.
            And JFTR, Hitler spouted he was a Christian and yet still could not get higher amounts of support. So after he became the FUHER, he started collecting up Christians and sending them to camps, many never made it past 1937.

            Do you know how that turned out? If not ~ please look into it.

            Also keep in mind that that 22% were mostly made up of people who were “not employed” or criminals, as they got Free Beer, Free Food, Free shelter, & even Free cloths, being a brown or black shirt and pants and shoes.

            And they also got a Bonus for turning in people that were noted as being “Un German,” be they or not such ~ or if they beat up a Jewish person.
            And if they Killed a Jewish person they not only got a Bouns they got a Rank Advancment, and even awards or Honor Daggers.
            The HJ and DJ were given gifts of what are called Honor Knifes when they did like wise, as well badges of merit, as well what are called Table awards.

            Never look at history as something thats dead, it lives and quite obviously no one learns from it saddly.

          • TIME

            Eddie,
            In fact there were no Jewish people who did anything to the Nazi’s in Germany, so your dead wrong with that post dude.

            As to the Reichstag being burned, that was done by criminals within the Nazi party, as in SA members. Yet the jewish people were blamed for something they did not do.
            Also keep in mind that the Jewish people in Germany back then were German citizens and felt that Hitler was a passing fad.

            That was a mistake on their part, so lets not repete it here. As Barry Soetoro and the New World Order gang are all in that band wagon.

            Now Eddie I don’t think your with out eyes, nor brains, you are just falling for the missleading Propganda thats being fed to the American people daily. I have hope that you too will wake up.

            JFTR; The Nazis’s started with taking over the Banks, then the Business’s making laws that only Nazi Party members could own a business or a bank.
            One such example that you can look up is the Alcoso Family who made knifes and such. In 1938 Mr. Alcoso was rounded up and taken to a camp along with his family they were all killed.
            But in 1936 just one month after Adolf Hitler became the Fuher, he revoked Mr. Alcoso’s ability to make Germany daggers and swords for the Political arm of the Nazi’s. Then in 1937, he revoked Mr. Alcoso’s abilitys to buy raw materials.

            These laws extended to all Germans who were not Party members, thus in order to work or for a business to get Raw Materials they had to join the Nazi Party.

            Just wait the UNIONS right here in the US are doing this very form of crushing business as you read this, and they are all in bed with Barry Soetoro, who has taken over the banks, the markets, and the Industry we have left. Speak with a Jewish person who survived and ask them what they see going on right now and they will wake you up really fast.

          • Kate8

            TIME – Thank you so much for that bit of history. Liberals today just don’t know how things went down in Germany, and that Soetoro is using the EXACT SAME PLAYBOOK.

            Just like Soetoro, Hitler claimed to be Christian in order to garner votes (sound familiar?), as Europe was very Christian. Of course, he was nothing of the sort, and he turned on them, as he planned to do all along. He was actually into the black arts and funded by secret Luciferian societies.

            Anyway, few saw it coming then, just as now. Yet it’s following the exact same steps. This is possible because when history is not correctly taught, the signs can’t be read and it is easily repeated by an unsuspecting, even trusting, people. That is why they must wait two generations to try again.

          • eddie47d

            ,Time; There wasn’t a thing I said that was wrong so what was your agenda in saying so? There were a few Jews who controlled the banks and other entities and Hitler used that as an excuse that they were abusing the German people. They then became the scapegoats and as a matter of fact so did the unions in Germany. Hitler didn’t want anyone questioning his workplace authority and since unions have a tendency to speak up he imprisoned them also. So isn’t is strange that the Conservatives in America want to shut down unions here . Now there is your comparison. Conservatives in America label homosexuals as unworthy and some wish they would die. Hitler also exterminated them. That is your comparison. Now alot of Christians in America now understand that Jews weren’t responsible for Jesus’s death. That wasn’t always the case and there are still several Jewish hate groups here such as Christian Identity. So that would be your comparison. So don’t give me all that fluff and puff trying to discredit me and go into one of your anti-leftist rages. Sadly I thought you were one of the more sane ones here.

          • Angel Wannabe

            Awesome history kate and TIME!___God Bless ya both!

          • TIME

            Eddie,
            You stated that; (a few Jews created problems that ended with many who then lost thier lifes.)

            Thats is 100% Wrong in all respects.

            In fact Jewish people who owned banks in Germany were fewer than 20 in total. The only major banks in Eurpoe that were and still are owned by Jewish people are the banks owned by the “ROTHSCHILDS.”
            Who just for the record Adolf Hitlers real father was a ROTHSCHILD. This is all doucmented by the SS by orders from Himmler and can be found in the National Archives.
            As well the ROTHSCHILDS also funded the Nazi’s from the UK during the war. Again this all can be found in the National Archives.

            As to what I posted It will stand scrutiny. My backround though vast and in many venues ~ The HISTORY of Europe from 1500 – 1945 thats my hobby. I don’t make any lots of money on it but I am consulted all the TIME on this venue.

            Now as to UNIONS, the Unions in Germany were under the {NSDAP} as in the “Nation Socialist Workers Party,” Note the word “WORKERS,” Thus “all Unions were the first to not only support Hitler” with not just Money, but goods to include his beloved Mercedes Benz. Uniforms his Home’s all paid for by the “Wokers Unions of Germany.”

            Thus all Unions in Germany were in fact NAZIS. As well as malicious nasty people who empowered Adolf Hitler to gain the power he did to “Kill Millions” of not just Jewish people but German Christians, Polish, French, Dutch, Russinas, and many others.
            His total though less than Stalin, 60 Million killed, Hitler’s tally is just under 40 Million. Again ~ “All 100% due to the UNIONS.”

            Now if you wish to say thats not the truth, “you had better have better Doucments than the National Archives German period Doucments,” of what I translated from German to English.

            Yes thats just one more thing I can do, I also lived in Germany as well France, Italy and the UK.

          • Vicki

            eddie47d writes: – “…you cry wolf so much that it will all be ignored”.

            Eddie has obviously never read the fable from which he (poorly) quotes. In the fable the boy crys wolf when there was NO wolf.

            People here have been crying out for a LONG time now but there REALLY IS a wolf or 534 that we are warning of.

            Our problem is people like eddie who won’t even look were we are pointing.

          • Kate8

            Vicki – Very well said.

            I guess folks like eddie don’t believe the saying, “Where there’s smoke, there’s fire”.

          • Serious Lee

            Eddie, no matter how bad the economy is crashing, you shouldn’t have taken that silly job with the government brainwashing department.

            I would add that you don’t even have the intelligence for it, but the government has never required much intelligence in the first place when it comes to jobs it offers…

          • TIME

            Folks let me just draw one more parallel for you all on the Nazi’s and us now with what we face.
            As many of you must have figured out “REALLY BIG business’s” have the control over your Politicians no matter what party they are in, the two partys are little more than points for the sheep to argue over, nothing more, nothing less. So if your a RebO or a DemO please get over it, there is no differance.

            Ok so we are clear on that, I hope.

            In Nazi Germany and Pre Nazi Germany just as we were in a depression they to were in the same boat, just what they had made ours look like a cake walk.

            Who where the highest numbers of Unemployed in Germany at that time?
            Not unlike us right now Young Men ages 18 – 30 as a matter of fact, the numbers are so close to us now in 2010 in the UNITED States its nearly mind numbing.
            Germany 1930 UER; age 18 – 30 was 54%, we now have these numbers UER: age 18 – 30 is 47%. Can you say WOW holy crap.

            Germany’s largest maunfacturing frims like Kurpp, were all but dead in the water, why? Germany could not make Arm’s. Soligen the area of Germany that made all steel products, like kinfes and dinner wear bikes, toys etc.. Had no buyers for their products, why? No money was being spent by anyone world wide.

            Wait is that not whats going on right now here??

            Ok so what products did they buy, products from Japan as they were dirt cheep, could this in fact mirror what we have by the way of Walmart, Kmart, Traget, etc. All dirt cheep products from China.

            And lets not for get Inflation, yea baby ~ the Mark was worthless, people were being paid $1 Million marks per day, yet it cost $600 thousand marks for a loaf of bread. $1.5 million marks for meat.
            A glass of Beer was $190 marks, and thats a single 8 oz glass of beer, not a six pack, a pack of 10 cigrettes were $225 marks.

            Now as we see here we have large corporation that own your politicians and the Unions also own politicians, strange its the same pattern in Germany in the 1920′s – 1930′s. (Read the above post) on the UNIONS.

            Then we add into the mix the following; with all the hate rhetoric that divides us, the Germans also faced the same but rather than us being Libs v Cons, – Gays V Straights, – Christians V Muslums, it was German pure Bloods v Jewish folks.
            Germany the cultural center of the world at the time where people said things like “the NAZIS are a passing fad,” {they will all fall apart in a few years and no one will ever know they existed.}
            “”It can’t happen here!”"

            Have any of you ever heard these statments, have you ever made such a statment?

            Folks – the Bottom up will end up just like they did under Hitler, when he was done with them he took the most crazy tratiors and had them killed.
            The ones who took their place sword an OATH to Hitler with the Blood Banner, these crazies went on to commit crimes that man had never thought possible before. “Yet they happened and on mass!”

            The Nazi’s were a Blue print, or a dry run if you will to see how far and what levels of depravity the country could be immersed in to.

            I ask that you look around right now here in the United States and see what levels of Depravity are noted as NORMAL, please look at the games your kids or grandkids are playing on their computers etc.
            Compaire these games with what the German youth in the HJ DJ and BDM played called Kill the JEW.

            Then look at the numbers of unemployed younger folks, compair just these numbers with the youth here now who are engaged in radical behavior, and hating anyone who has money, Christians, Jews, and anyone who has what they don’t have.

            Its saddly going to unfold rather we like it or not, due to the Politicians who have sold your Freedoms and NO this was not done within the last 10 years, and yes GWB is the same as Barry Soetoro, the only differance is that Barry has been able to display that the American people are now SHEEP ready for the end game.

            This whole gig has been going on for well over 100 years, and only in the last 30 has the speed picked up to the point that they are now dropping the masks.

            Please either open your eyes to the fact that we have a long hard road ahead, or just close your eyes and become “one of the mass of people who were no differant than what the German people did,” when their neighbors were carted away and never seen again.

            Its here, and its not going to get better.

            Just ask how it is that Barry Soetoro has just appointed a Gun Czar at BATF who is so heavy anti gun, How long do you think you have before they come a calling for your GUN???
            And they will not come a calling with a single person in normal cloths, you will get a visit from well armed as well armored groups of US Army personel who will shoot first and ask question later.

            People its here. The FCC will have the net shut down by mid year 2011, and you will be told what to do when to do it and why.
            You are being compressed into a tight little box.

            Good luck people, you have a choice now wake up and grasp whats happening, and ask how you can help stop this maddness, or just go back to sleep.

            Please note; I will no longer respond to any IDIOTS or MOREOFFS who can’t grasp whats happeneing or are hell bent of RebO v DemO crap.
            I will try and help anyone who will stand up and show the courage and strenght and loves “FREEDOM”.
            Anything less is a 100% Total waste of TIME.

          • Kate8

            TIME – I concur with all you said.

            There are some who are just not going to see it until brownshirts come knocking their doors down. We know which ones they are.

            I don’t know what we can do to be ready. We need to be praying for divine intervention.

          • eddie47d

            Vickie and Kate 8 have become incorrigible messes. Little rhyme or reason. Can you two say you are full of it?

          • eddie47d

            Time; Much good history, and union folks and leaders Were put in camps. It doesn’t make any difference whether there were few Jewish bankers or shoe makers for that matter. All Hitler needed was a handful of “bad” Jews to light his fire. All folks on the right in this country need is to label a couple of union leaders as evil and the right talking heads want to destroy them all. The same with the anti-Jewish groups and the Mexican bashing folks and the gay hating mobs. The few are having a field day and whipping the right into a frenzy. That is your comparison to nazi Germany. The Right has buried itself in way too much hatred and hatred is fueling the fire.

        • bbstacker

          How many false alarms did the Patriots and those who wanted independence from King George go through and suffer the anxiety of before it culminated in a shooting war? How many disregarded the impending conflict as so much rhetoric? We have many residents here who are delusional that somehow the human condition has evolved in the 21st century to where it cannot or will not recede to the basic survival mode when pressed to that task. There are two choices: 1) Wake up the zombies who think that a fresh set of batteries for the remote and another 12 hours of idle American is self-actualization if that is possible, 2) Decide how to engage at least a majority of those around you to be resolute to remain sovereign and self-reliant and protect and defend each other. The storm coming is beyond the comprehension of many, and no matter how delayed the forecast, the storm is still brewing. I do find it hard to have faith in politicians to do anything that resembles restoring the Constitution and honoring in the highest regards that which the Founding Fathers set in motion to be These United States of America.

          Molon Labe

          • Angel Wannabe

            Well said bbstacker!

          • Vicki

            here is a list of some of the things they tolerated from King George before finally (when the gov came for the guns) they had enough.

            He (King George) has refused his assent to laws, the most wholesome and necessary for the public good.
            clear pixel

            He has forbidden his governors to pass laws of immediate and pressing importance, unless suspended in their operation till his assent should be obtained; and when so suspended, he has utterly neglected to attend to them.

            He has refused to pass other laws for the accommodation of large districts of people, unless those people would relinquish the right of representation in the legislature, a right inestimable to them and formidable to tyrants only.

            He has called together legislative bodies at places unusual, uncomfortable, and distant from the depository of their public records, for the sole purpose of fatiguing them into compliance with his measures.

            He has dissolved representative houses repeatedly, for opposing with manly firmness his invasions on the rights of the people.

            He has refused for a long time, after such dissolutions, to cause others to be elected; whereby the legislative powers, incapable of annihilation, have returned to the people at large for their exercise; the state remaining in the meantime exposed to all the dangers of invasion from without, and convulsions within.

            He has endeavored to prevent the population of these states; for that purpose obstructing the laws for naturalization of foreigners; refusing to pass others to encourage their migration hither, and raising the conditions of new appropriations of lands.

            He has obstructed the administration of justice, by refusing his assent to laws for establishing judiciary powers.

            He has made judges dependent on his will alone, for the tenure of their offices, and the amount and payment of their salaries.

            He has erected a multitude of new offices, and sent hither swarms of officers to harass our people, and eat out their substance.

            He has kept among us, in times of peace, standing armies without the consent of our legislature.

            He has affected to render the military independent of and superior to civil power.

            He has combined with others to subject us to a jurisdiction foreign to our constitution, and unacknowledged by our laws; giving his assent to their acts of pretended legislation:

            For quartering large bodies of armed troops among us:

            For protecting them, by mock trial, from punishment for any murders which they should commit on the inhabitants of these states:

            For cutting off our trade with all parts of the world:

            For imposing taxes on us without our consent:

            For depriving us in many cases, of the benefits of trial by jury:

            For transporting us beyond seas to be tried for pretended offenses:

            For abolishing the free system of English laws in a neighboring province, establishing therein an arbitrary government, and enlarging its boundaries so as to render it at once an example and fit instrument for introducing the same absolute rule in these colonies:

            For taking away our charters, abolishing our most valuable laws, and altering fundamentally the forms of our governments:

            For suspending our own legislatures, and declaring themselves invested with power to legislate for us in all cases whatsoever.

            He has abdicated government here, by declaring us out of his protection and waging war against us.

            He has plundered our seas, ravaged our coasts, burned our towns, and destroyed the lives of our people.

            He is at this time transporting large armies of foreign mercenaries to complete the works of death, desolation and tyranny, already begun with circumstances of cruelty and perfidy scarcely paralleled in the most barbarous ages, and totally unworthy the head of a civilized nation.

            He has constrained our fellow citizens taken captive on the high seas to bear arms against their country, to become the executioners of their friends and brethren, or to fall themselves by their hands.

            He has excited domestic insurrections amongst us, and has endeavored to bring on the inhabitants of our frontiers, the merciless Indian savages, whose known rule of warfare, is undistinguished destruction of all ages, sexes and conditions.

            In every stage of these oppressions we have petitioned for redress in the most humble terms: our repeated petitions have been answered only by repeated injury. A prince, whose character is thus marked by every act which may define a tyrant, is unfit to be the ruler of a free people.
            http://www.earlyamerica.com/earlyamerica/freedom/doi/text.html

          • Kate8

            Vicki – Let’s just reuse that one. It fits perfectly.

            Thank you for posting that.

          • Vicki

            welcome :)

    • S.C.Murf

      To the winner goes the spoils. And their rocket scientists too

    • http://none sean moor

      PRESCOTT BUSH!!! AND OTHER SKUMS FUNDED HITLER!!

      • Kate8

        sean – Yes. And the same scums are funding Obama.

    • kodster5

      I agree with this, 100%. The children of the Reich were conditioned, and just like in today’s society, our own children have been taught by the NEA, and the schools’ teachers, to be good, compliant, government spies. They’ve dumbed down the kids so badly that they don’t know any better. Of course, our Father in Heaven told us, in His Word, that we would experience this in the end times, before His Son, Jesus Christ, came back for us, His Church and Bride:

      Matthew 10:21-22: 21 “Brother will betray brother to death, and a father his child; children will rebel against their parents and have them put to death. 22 All men will hate you because of me, but he who stands firm to the end will be saved.

      Mark 13:7-17: 7 When you hear of wars and rumors of wars, do not be alarmed. Such things must happen, but the end is still to come. 8 Nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. There will be earthquakes in various places, and famines. These are the beginning of birth pains. 9 “You must be on your guard. You will be handed over to the local councils and flogged in the synagogues. On account of me you will stand before governors and kings as witnesses to them. 10 And the gospel must first be preached to all nations. 11 Whenever you are arrested and brought to trial, do not worry beforehand about what to say. Just say whatever is given you at the time, for it is not you speaking, but the Holy Spirit. 12 “Brother will betray brother to death, and a father his child. Children will rebel against their parents and have them put to death. 13 All men will hate you because of me, but he who stands firm to the end will be saved. 14 “When you see ‘the abomination that causes desolation’ standing where it does not belong–let the reader understand–then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains. 15 Let no one on the roof of his house go down or enter the house to take anything out. 16 Let no one in the field go back to get his cloak. 17 How dreadful it will be in those days for pregnant women and nursing mothers!

      And so it shall pass, as His Word is 100% accurate in prophecy.

      • Angel Wannabe

        kodster, on a happier note , I heard on Fox news today that a parents of a school in California(yeah I know)_took the school back and apparently ousted the teachers union,_I’m gonna do some search on it for details__dannnnmm thats a start!

  • http://http/aol.com john littlefield

    just like nazi germany or 1984,next thing they will monitor us 24 hours a day with a camara in our bed rooms.

    • David in Ma.

      Boy, are they going to be disappointed with my bedroom!

      Not necessarly in this order, but:

      FIRST” Check out thourghly all candidates for all public offices before voting for them.
      SECOND: Get involved in local politics and vet all candidates and job applicants and those you have a problem with, make it known.
      THIRD: Stop being a Sheeple.
      FORTH: Become more involved with your children.
      FIFTH: Get your butts back to your house of worship….fast!

      These are good starting points!

      • ValDM

        The Bible does point out in Mark 13 that brother will turn on sister and have each other put to death. Cildren will turn against parents, and everone will hate us because of Jesus. It’s just coming to pass. Remember, that when we are arrested, your words will come from the Holy Spirit. That is, if you have an acquaintance with the Heavenly Father and His Son Jesus.

      • Kate8

        David in Ma. – One thing that has always bugged me is that in our local politics, candidates won’t disclose their party affiliation. When I’ve asked them point blank, and they’ve refused to answer, I figure that means that they are liberal.

        • Bob Wire

          really! strange?

          silence should not be misquoted.

          • Kate8

            BW – Since some of them admitted to being conservative and, since where I live (until recently) was predominantly conservative, I think I safely made that assumption. Besides, it’s not that hard to tell after a brief conversation.

          • http://?? Joe H.

            Kate8,
            unfortunately, I know all to well what my councilman is. his willingness to make a deal, not rock the boat, brown nose the Mayor, tax, and all the other identifiers tell it all!!!

    • Angel Wannabe

      apparently John they already can monitor your bedroom, they have satellites above earth, that can allegedly zoom in on a newpaper laying on the the ground and read it clearly.

      • http://?? Joe H.

        Angel,
        They also have thermal immaging capability!!!

  • Fenella Pearson

    My father went to Germany in 1936, & attended one of Hitler’s rallies. He took a photo, which I still have. He was close enough to take a photo, so why didn’t he assassinate Hitler? I wouldn’t have been around to tell the tale, but what a difference it might have made to world history!

    • Harold Olsen

      People do miss their opportunities. Prior to WWI, Buffalo Bill’s Wild West Show was playing in Germany. The Kaiser was in the audience. After she shot a cigarette out of a man’s mouth, the Kaiser wanted Annie Oakley to shoot one out of his mouth. She suggested that he hold it in his hand instead but he insisted that she shoot it out of his mouth. She did so and, of course, her shot was accurate. Years later she regretted that her shot had been accurate.

  • http://gunner689 gunner689

    Until they confisicate all the guns we still hold the upper hand. Until things get to critical mass, which may be soon, the ballot box and peaceful disabediance to unconstitutional laws are are best weapons. I believe that people have finally awoken to the fact that the left wing and their politicians are intentionally and incrementally trying to destroy America. Their end goal is a one world gvt. with them in charge. I wouldn’t trust the police to do anything other than what they are ordered to by the politicians and judges but I believe that most of the military would side with the Constitution and her civilian protectors. May God Bless America and keep us a free people.

    • Al Sieber

      gunner689, I agree with you, I don’t trust any of them.

    • David in Ma.

      The American Constitution says I have the RIGHT to bear arms, this has been upheld at the Supreme Court level.

      Right now Hag Clinton is negotiating a world arms treaty with the U.N., now, I have heard this arms treaty will superceed the Second Amendment to the American Constitution and require Americans to turn in to government all firearms that have not been approved.

      How in the hell can a treaty superceed the Constitution without a constitutional convention to abolish the second amendment? There seems to be a conflict here!

      However, those who would destroy America do have an avenue. If there is a Constitutional Convention called for whatever reason it will open the door for the dirty doers to do their dirty deeds.

      A Constitutional Convention called for the purpose of, lets say, amending the fifth amendment, opens the door, because once the convention convenes they DO NOT HAVE TO ADDRESS THE ISSUE IT WAS CALLED FOR AND THEY CAN GO TO ANY ISSUE OR OTHER PROCESS THEY CHOOSE.

      Do you get that, they do not have to stay with the reason for the calling of the convention!

      America needs more Constitutional literate people who are aware of the provisions of the Constitution so as to protect it and to see that it is adheared to, or all will be lost to the socialist/communist/maxist scum.

      Pray for the Oath Keepers.

      • Chris

        It is easy David. Just like they wiped out most of the 4th amendment during the Bush Administration with the Patriot Act and all the other secret snooping that the government can now do. Since the fall of the Soviet Union, the US has become more like the old USSR.

      • http://?? Joe H.

        David in Ma.
        WRONG!!! Never believe that your right to bear arms is granted by the constitution!! It is only protected by it! your right to bear is granted by God himself!!! The right to bear arms comes under the same God given right to defend yourself!! May God Bless you and this country AGAIN!!!

    • Harold Olsen

      IS the ballot box one of our best weapons anymore? I’m not so sure. Too many elections have been rigged as of late. I wonder what the REAL count was in Nevada.

      • marvin

        Harold Olsen
        try this the iesu gave 40 million to dembos the iesu do maintenance on the vote machines in nevada the president of iesu admitted on tv they had illegals in his union[about half] put it all togetter they spell corruption and you ask if the vote in nevada was rigged,illegals giving money, illegals voting, illegals working on voting machines

      • eddie47d

        When you loose it is always rigged and when you win it wouldn’t matter anyway. Some of you need to go to a country where elections are padded everywhere and all the time.That will really give you something to cry about.

        • TIME

          Eddie,
          I have been to many so why should we allow it to fester and grow here? Oh It has been for years, only now is starting to show its ugly face.
          Dude, the facts are if you just look this evil in the eye now and really look at it, you can’t miss it as its there and its not going away.

          Again this is not a RebOrat or DemOrat thing, we are steps from a “One World Government” and so you can grasp this, the real powers that be are using the Left wingnuts to do the dirty work.
          When they have done their job, they will be on the chopping block.

          • S.C.Murf

            Amen

          • eddie47d

            I don’t believe it is growing here. We live in a 24/7 news cycle and every problem in every state is blowin’ out of porportion. We only hear what is hyped up and exaggerated so we think the sky is falling. No different at the voting booth….and Who says the right wing nutjobs aren’t doing the bidding? Let’s not leave them out.

          • S.C.Murf

            The only thing fast eddie can grasp is his butt cheeks when he makes that popping sound

            up the hill
            airborne

          • Angel Wannabe

            SC MURF___ROFLMAO!!!:0

          • eddie47d

            More cute noises from your bubble machines. You two are strange birds!!

          • Dan az

            Time
            thanks for all the information I really dont read much but was aware of the oncoming threats and thats when I started reading here.I get some of the best info from posters from all over the nation and from people like you.Thanks!We can can only prepare for what we know is the truth and if those who refuse to take it as fact will soon learn from their mistakes.I only regret that their families must suffer for their ignorance and lack of reasoning.May God have mercy on those!

          • http://?? Joe H.

            S.C.Murf,
            THOOMP! Just like a Hunts tomato!!!!!

          • kodster5

            Is that the sound of Eddie47d bending over to kiss his ass goodbye?

          • http://?? Joe H.

            No either pulling his head out or it being pulled in!!!

          • eddie47d

            So much paranoia on the right and so little time to distribute all of their propaganda!!!

          • http://?? Joe H.

            Just like eddduuuhhh! all that BS and no manure spreader!!!

          • eddie47d

            I hear you have a whole fleet of them.

    • Kate8

      gunner689 – What I have heard is that they’ve been doing genetic manipulation and other experiments to build an army of super-soldiers who are super fierce, super strong and will do as told without question. They are even implanted with chips in their brains to control their thoughts, keep them fearless and keep them from feeling pain.

      Our regular military is being kept in futile and fruitless wars in order to exhaust them. The last thing the PTB want is a bunch of armed patriots who are energized and ready to defend the homeland. Also, don’t forget that the military is infiltrated by the enemy, including the officers. This erodes trust among the rank and file.

      • Dan az

        Kate I heard that also!

        • Kate8

          Hey, Dan az, are you, by any chance, a Coastie?

          • Dan az

            Kate how did you know?

          • Dan az

            Kate
            semper paratus always ready!

  • Patrick

    Homeland security is behaving like the McCarthy era. Instead of profiling, they are attacking every red blooded American. They are definitely encouraging many anti-government groups to be on the alert.
    Unbelieveable, I never thought we would actually be living Orville’s 1984. These people in Washington need a shrink to evaluate them soon, talk about being paranoid. My weapons are lock and loaded.

    • Mick

      Patrick says:
      December 10, 2010 at 7:53 am
      Homeland security is behaving like the McCarthy era. Instead of profiling, they are attacking every red blooded American. They are definitely encouraging many anti-government groups to be on the alert.
      Unbelieveable, I never thought we would actually be living Orville’s 1984. These people in Washington need a shrink to evaluate them soon, talk about being paranoid. My weapons are lock and loaded.

      ((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((

      Patrick,,,please don’t add shrinks to the mix, we’re in enough trouble, just think how many BAD laws have been introduced and passed becaused of those so called Professionals……No thanks………

  • David in Ma.

    I have heard there are 80 admitted communists now serving as U.S. Congresspeople or is it congresspersons….

    obama is surrounded by socialists & communists.

    The process of nationalizing the banking, industrial, agriculture, transportation & medical fields is in progress.

    Will it be heil obama or will it be to hell with obama?

    Americans, it is time to resist, do it with your votes, your wallet, your feet…..but try to do it non-violently, then, if that does not work, we better hope the oath keepers are alive and well!

    • Angel Wannabe

      Your right Dave in Ma, in fact theres 81 to be exact.

      • newspooner

        Please post the list of 81 here if you can, or link a reference. Thank you.

        • Angel Wannabe

          NS __use google and search for it.

          • eddie47d

            You are the one who told me to print my source awhile back and I said go and google the answer. You’re reply “It’s not my job to do your work” Ditto!

          • Kate8

            eddie – That’s just dumb. If anyone is interested in a subject, it’s
            easy to use a computer. If that’s too much work, then the interest isn’t there.

            The way I see it is, we’re here to share information and ideas. That’s a starting point, not an end. When you’re involved in conversation, you don’t comment and then stop to look up the link. Links are great, but not mandatory. Even then, a single link should be checked out futher.

          • Anthony

            Did eddie just say: nah-nah-na-na-na… while sticking his tongue out?

          • Vicki

            When making assertions we will be able to stay WAY ahead of liberals by posting just 1 link to at least the main point of our assertions. Yes people could google it but consider it a curtsy to show your source. And just think how mad it will make liberals cause they will not have a source (of facts) to quote :)

          • Kate8

            Vicki – If I have a link handy I will post it. But who ever knows which way the conversation will go, and we don’t always have time to go tracking down a link we found somewhere. At least, I don’t.

            I read so much that I can’t possibly remember where everything is. I have many, many sources, (not ALL on the internet) and I don’t always think about referencing it.

            I figure, if I can find it, so can anyone. And those who care, will.

          • Vicki

            I know it is hard sometimes but we have to try. I often do not make assertions I would love to make because I can’t find the cite.

          • eddie47d

            Only calling Angel out on her double talk> Is that okay with you Anthony or do I need a permission slip from the great Oz?

      • Karolyn

        And how does anyone come to this conclusion about these people? I’m sure they didn’t say they were communists. It’s just somebody’s rationale based on people that are to far left for them.

        • Angel Wannabe

          Karolyn, Google for the info you want, when you find it, and cross match references & opposition yourselves, you may be more inclined to believe some of things we are all saying on here.

          • Karolyn

            Angel, Every time I google and do my own research it comes up that the info is from some far right wacko. IF the info came from a middle-of-the-road research organization, THEN it might be believable.

          • Angel Wannabe

            Like I said Karolyn, its up to you what you want to believe?

          • Angel Wannabe

            Besides Karolyn, us so called right wingers can/do say the same about the info/links you liberals offer us, can’t we?_ya have to look at opposing info, with an open mind. If your not willing to do that, then your at a crossroads__Without a decision, your destined to stay there.

          • Kate8

            For crying out loud, Karolyn. The LEFT IS SOCIALIST. Of course they’ll give cover to their own. That is what they do.

            You would rather trust the government controlled media? Just what would you expect?

          • eddie47d

            Come on Angel,You have an open mind?? A can opener couldn’t open what you have between your ears. lol

          • oldtimeyman

            Here’s the link. It’s a PDF file so download it and keep it on your mainframe for future referene.

            http://www.c4strategies.com/whoarethesocialists.pdf

        • Kate8

          Karolyn, Actually, some of them DO admit to being communist. Many admit to being socialist.

          • Vicki

            I found a list of socialists in congress based on the DSA. Not quite the same as a list from the Congressmen admitting they were. On the other hand I did not find anywhere that the congressmen listed came out and denied their involvement so maybe they are.

            As a source though it (the DSA) is pretty weak. And my source is not even the DSA but someone claiming to quote scribd who, in the claim, claimed to be quoting the DSA.

            http://gatewaypundit.rightnetwork.com/2010/08/american-socialists-release-names-of-70-congressional-democrats-in-their-caucus/

          • Kate8

            Vicki – Remember that famous clip of that socialist democrat – I don’t know, Shirley Jackson or Maxine Waters or one of them – questioning the oil guy and saying “This socialist will be all about nationalizing the oil companies”. She then caught herself and rephrased.

            Some of the house members are self-declared socialists. We have legislators in CA who are self-proclaimed communists. Bawney Fwank is an admitted socialist. There are several.

    • Johnny Glock

      We need to call on the Oath Keepers to organize and keep watch on what our resident commies are doing to our great country. It is “WE THE PEOPLE” who will save America. If any Oath Keepers are out there and read this and the comments of all these “True Americans” Please help us save our country. We know what Hitler did, Please don’t let it happen in America. Go to: http://www.Oathkeepers.org and spread the word.
      And above all—-DO NOT let NObama and his Commies disarm our country like Hitler did to Germany “For their own safety”.
      Remember—whenever NObama opens his mouth only lies jump out.
      One more thing; let’s keep our boys overseas informed on what is really going on here and how it is effecting the U.S. Constitution they are fighting and dieing to protect.

  • sandman

    (If You See Something, Say Something) — ok — i see a buncha commie a$$holes in washington stealing and throwing our money away as fast as they can — they need to be impeached – fired – or just plain run outta town on a rail — we dont need big brothers mosta us already have one

    • Angel Wannabe

      sandman_Good One!_lol

    • Vicki

      Don’t forget the feathers

  • Mikey

    I have been to Israel where the people have suffered terribly at the hands of terrorists leaving backpack bombs, trash bombs, human bombs, and so forth….and there are signs all over the place telling people to be aware of their surroundings. Situational awareness or lack thereof is a key component to defeating terrorists. Wake up people! If you see something who you gonna call? Bob Livingston? Of course you have to call the authorities, what in the world???

    • Mick

      Mikey says:
      December 10, 2010 at 8:01 am
      I have been to Israel where the people have suffered terribly at the hands of terrorists leaving backpack bombs, trash bombs, human bombs, and so forth….and there are signs all over the place telling people to be aware of their surroundings. Situational awareness or lack thereof is a key component to defeating terrorists. Wake up people! If you see something who you gonna call? Bob Livingston? Of course you have to call the authorities, what in the world???

      *************************************
      Mikey……In a perfect world I would call the authorities but considering our federal agencies and judges do not enforce the constitutional laws and cater to criminals and terrorists all in the name of human rights kinna leave us in the cold, Doesn’t it ??

    • David in Ma.

      Being aware of your surroundings makes sense, reporting someone who is set to cause harm makes sense, reporting that your neighbor does not use a condom is ridiculis……get the idea?

    • Angel Wannabe

      mikey, with all do respect, most folks know when to call the authorities if theres and emergency. This is an indoctrination attempt to divide us further, and for authorities to gather more sheep, we need to keep our eyes open for that!

      • eddie47d

        Bob’s article is written to indoctrinate you and make you all paranoid. I see it’s working!

        • Angel Wannabe

          eddie, reverse psychology doesn’t work here.

        • Kate8

          eddie – That’s hilarious coming from you.

          Just go back to sleep, folks. Nothing to see here…

          • eddie47d

            Always trying to shut down the truth…well that isn’t working either.

          • Angel Wannabe

            eddie, Good Grief, and they say women always have to have the last word___geez!

          • eddie47d

            Poor Angel …you’ve done it so much I think it’s high time to throw it back at you.

          • Dan az

            Edduh Didnt you here that knock at your door?I called them again!Boy are you going to get it when your mother gets home!

          • eddie47d

            I’m still waiting!

    • Harold Olsen

      I doubt that calling the authorities would do any good. I firmly believe that Obama and his entire regime are on the side of the terrorists. Remember those secret nighttime White House visitor several months ago whom no one can identify? I wouldn’t be surprised if they were Al-Qaida planning the next big terrorist attack on our country with our fuhrer.

      • eddie47d

        You just proved my point!

        • Kate8

          eddie, What point would that be? That you are a mindless, zombie tool?

          Zzzzzzzzzzz.

          • eddie47d

            Terrorists,furer? I did prove my paranoid point…again.

          • Claire

            Kate8–Mindless zombies?? I love scary movies and these words make me think– I have been watching “The Walking Dead” on TV–the amc channel, it is a series and is full of mindless zombies and the only way to kill them is to shoot them through the head. There are only a few “normal” survivors left in the U.S., and it makes me wonder about the future??!!

          • Kate8

            Claire – Those old movies were prophetic, weren’t they?

            People have talked about how Hollywood makes movies that picture the future. I think it’s part of the programming.

            Have you heard about the re-education camps? I also heard that those who are immune to mind-control will be the first to be eliminated.

            Bill Ayers said 25million back in the 60s. I wonder what that would work out to be today. You’d think more, given the population increase. But probably not.

          • Claire

            Kate8–Looks like I will be amongst the first to be eliminated. I sure as heck won’t allow anyone to “take over” my mind!

          • Kate8

            Claire, Since mind-control has been going on for a long time, I think that if they don’t have you by now, it’s not likely to happen.

            It’s been accomplished by media, TV “programming”, school indoctrination, etc, etc.

          • Dan az

            Kate my favorite saying is head shots only!
            Eddieeeeeee Knock knock knock Im calling them again!

        • http://Alaska Wild Bill

          Eddie
          The only point you have is your self accredited head.You are playing Elmer Fudd to Obama’s Daffy Duck.
          Wild Bill
          Alaska

          • Angel Wannabe

            Love your wit Wild Bill! :)

          • http://?? Joe H.

            Wild Bill,
            Or he’s playin our token Maroon to our Buggs Bunny!!!

      • Kate8

        Harold Olsen – Exactly. Why call the same people who are instigating the whole thing. They’ll be all about checking YOU out.

        • Kate8

          Harold Olsen – I didn’t mean you, personally. I meant the person reporting, whoever they may be.

          I’m on your side.

      • Karolyn

        HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!

  • http://personallibertydigest Betty

    PRAY PRAY PRAY

  • wayne

    I’ve always thought that in the end one part of Orwell’s vision would NOT be vindicated – instead of having the government watching you 24/7 in your home, there would be a mandate for the citizens to watch and report on each other using Orwell’s in-home camera’s.

    It would take too much time and resources to have the government to actually do the watching of average people – they’d only watch and deal with special cases as reported by the public or otherwise flagged.

    Instead we will have a “voyeur mandate” where every citizen is drafted to into Homeland Security to “visually grope” every other one.

    Every domicile will be completely wired for video. Every citizen will have a couple of hours mandated daily to watch a randomly switched feed from inside another’s home in another part of the country. These feeds will switch every few seconds unless the person overrides to focus on something going on inside and that person will report of they see something noteworthy. .

    This way the government can use people’s baser instincts to spy on everyone and the system automatically flags if someone has overridden the switch to stay on a channel and an agent can be brought in to observe if there is a problem needing “enforcement”.

    Orwell didn’t understand psychology and marketing techniques otherwise he’d have included this in his book.

    • eddie47d

      Thank you James Bond and you all are getting wackier by the minute.You could be a fairly good spy novelist though.

      • Kate8

        eddie, Do you also deny the existence of Fusion Centers?

        There are thousands of computers, monitoring every keystroke and phone conversation. Computers can process billions, even trillions of bits of info per second, so it’s easy to key in certain flag words.

        Wake up to the new century, eddie. Oh wait. You can’t.

        • eddie47d

          How do you think the phone company knows your every call and who you called? It’s been around for decades and information on each and everyone of us has been out there for decades. Oh,I forgot Obama is President so it must be a new occurrence. I forgot there for a moment how you righties think or maybe you are just plain mean.

          • Kate8

            eddie, No, now new. Just infinitely more efficient. And with an expressed targeting and purpose.

          • Kate8

            That should have been “not new”.

          • PacificRim

            I think Eddie needs to be bitch slapped now!

          • Dan-o

            watch out PacificRim, Eddie might report you for the threatened violence against him, because thats the kind of punk he is.

          • eddie47d

            I’ll never lower myself to your behavior my dear boy!

          • http://?? Joe H.

            Dan o,
            watch it edddduuuhh! is calling you “dear”!!!!! Don’t drop the soap!!!

  • Robin from Arcadia, IN

    It seems to me the first group of people that would be ‘turned in’ are those who wear burkas and turbins. When I see anyone dressed like that out in public, I become concerned. Janet wants us all to be on our guard, and totally untrusting anyone. It will lead to a breakdown of families, communities, churches, workplaces, etc. United we stand, divided we fall!

    • Harold Olsen

      The only people whom I do not trust are people driving around with Obama-Biden For President stickers still on their cars. Every time I see one I have to fight the urge to smash the car window that the sticker is glued to.

      • Kate8

        Harold – Careful! Your terrorist tendencies are showing!

        LOL.

      • oldtimeyman

        Working people frequently ask retired people what they do to make their days interesting.  Here’s what I do:
         
        The other day I came to town and went into a shop.  I was only in there for about 5 minutes and when I came out there was a cop writing out a ticket for an expired safety sticker.
         
        I went up to him and said, “Come on man, how about giving a retired person a break?”
         
        He ignored me and continued writing the ticket, so I called him a “Nazi”.
         
        He glared at me, and started writing another ticket for having worn tires. So I called him a “doughnut-eating Gestapo.”
         
        He finished the second ticket and put it on the windshield with the first. Then he started writing a third ticket.
         
        This went on for about 20 minutes. The more I abused him, the more tickets he wrote.
         
        Personally, I didn’t care.  I came downtown with a friend and the car that he was putting the tickets on had a bumper sticker that said “Obama in ’08.”
         
        I try to have a little fun each day now that I’m retired.  It’s important to my health.

    • eddie47d

      I don’t believe burkas are worn in this country but rather the habas.They really aren’t a big concern unless you are very judgemental and prejudice.Most hijackers or bombers will look fairly ordinary and will be able to do their deed. All the while you will be profiling someones garment.

      • Claire

        If someone is wearing garments like the muslims do, my thinking is this–clothes can hide a multitude of sins. Bombs as well as an ugly body. They should be searched, and profiled just like everyone else. No exceptions. If they feel like they are being discriminated against, tough titty. Tell them to go back to muslim country then. Wow, I am being brazen! But this is exactly what I believe.

      • eddie47d

        Whether they are searched or not wasn’t the issue Claire.

        • Claire

          eddie47d– I am fully aware that this was not the issue. I simply felt like posting what I believe.

          • libertytrain

            Yep that’s why it’s called Personal Liberty….. :)

    • Kate8

      Robin, The burka and turbin group are here to draw out the REAL threat. Patriots!

      They were brought here to create angst.

      • eddie47d

        Words of “wisdom” from another pro filer.That is why there will be another terrorist attack because you are blind to the realities of how a “real” terrorist dresses.

        • Dan az

          Your right ediee thats what they said when I told them about your fetish with black dresses!Knock knock knock Im just trying to be a good citizen.Oh I almost forgot they loved the mail YOU sent them!!!

          • http://?? Joe H.

            Dan az,
            They confided in me that they didn’t appreciate the insults he wrote to them!!! And that go get @#$%ed wasn’t real smart!!!

          • Dan az

            Ya know Joe I dont think there going to like having to sit out side his basement window every night so maybe we should help them out and report gunshots where heard from there next.

          • http://?? Joe H.

            Dan az,
            Or a female scream!!! they’d never believe he had a FEMALE in there!!!! Not voulentarily anyways!!!

  • http://personallibertydigest Betty

    they want the dream act to be pushed through but the sad fact is these people dont understand they will become slave,s to the goverment and will have to do what they say because they got in the USA by the dream act that will held over their heads as long as they live I dont say it is easy in their homeland but in the end it will be the same thing here the way this country is going everybody turning away from the LORD JESUS CHRIST the muslins want to build at ground zero and last night their head honch said he wants to start building in other citys and countrys what is this telling us one world order if thing dont change in a hurry i dont understand why they havent demand obama papers that is why they are afraid of wiki there is some thing about obama in them files and they dont want the AMERICANS to know

    • eddie47d

      There were 250,000 pages of wikileaks on the internet.So if there was anything about Obama’s “papers” we would have seen it. How can you hide something when it is right in front of your face?

      • Angel Wannabe

        eddie, its called “Hiding in Plain Sight!”

      • Kate8

        eddie – You are soooooo easy.

        Wikileaks is a ruse, a set up, to demonstrate the need to control the internet.

        There was nothing “leaked” that wasn’t intended to get out.

        Geez. Wake up, man.

        • Angel Wannabe

          “Shot Score!”__kate

        • eddie47d

          Oh, yes the government hired a 20 year old computer hacker to expose information they didn’t want exposed. Your brilliant star is fading.Computer hackers love the challenge and do it for personal notoriety. They have no more sense than your ridiculous smartazz replies.

          • Kate8

            eddie, it’s already been revealed that Assange is working for the NWO.

          • eddie47d

            Did you see that while reading your tea leaves or have you upgraded to a crystal ball?

          • http://?? Joe H.

            eddduuuhhh!
            Saw it in your bald head one of the times you extracated your chrome dome from your anal cavity!!

          • eddie47d

            I have a nice head of hair so go back to cleaning out your sewer.Oh,I’m sorry that was your mouth.

        • Angel Wannabe

          kate, isn’t it amazing that eddie claims to love America,sometimes more than we do, but refuses to see any further than the R or D. I gotta hand it too him, he is a loyal progressive sheep. Perhaps when it falls down, instead of them hearding all of us together, they’ll give eddie his own special lil’ cubby.

        • Karolyn

          And, Kate, who are you parroting this info from?

          • Kate8

            Karolyn – If you’d look beyond NPR you’d learn a few things.

          • Kate8

            Karolyn, I already spend too much time doing my own research. I’m not going to do yours, too.

          • Karolyn

            Kate – I have just spent some time researching walmart getting govt. grants and Julian Assange being part of the NWO, and all I can find are a bunch of weirdos’ conjecture. Like “Godlike Productions”, a site about far-out theories. I did find something about WalMart inadvertently subsidizing it’s low wages with govt services. Where do you people get this stuff? You hear one person say it and it grows to be absolute truth? Just like any rumor.

          • Kate8

            Karolyn – I actually posted a link about wikileaks a few days ago. Obviously, you didn’t read it. It was very thorough and detailed.

          • Kate8

            Karolyn, BTW, Some of the people who were named in the post were from all sides of the spectrum. One of our Libertarian friends was a bit offended by one of the names (Forbes), but a day or so later I heard his name mentioned again in the same context by a different source.

            If you limit your search to a single slant, don’t expect to get far.

          • Vicki

            It would appear that wikileaks are currently more embarrasing to the Democrat party and administration than anything else.

            http://dissentingdemocrat.wordpress.com/2010/12/05/wikileaks-witchhunt-promoted-by-liberals/

      • Dan az

        The best place to hide something is to put it with obumers BC they will never find it there!

        • http://?? Joe H.

          Dan az,
          Problem is, WHERE THE HELL IS THAT?????????

          • Dan az

            Joe I told them that eddiee had it in his basement and he was going to release it on the internet. wow they just hung up so fast they never said thanks.Oh well

          • http://?? Joe H.

            Dan az,
            I’ll just be darned! I would have bet on where eddduhhh hides his head ever so often!!! you DO know where that is, don’t you???

  • http://none daniel jacobson

    dont think the demoncrats started this not that im sticking up for them im not things started to escalate as soon as GW got into office things have really accelerated this last 10 yrs..they know they have a short window to start there new world order,and some people are waking up..not enough tho..i think its to late..die with your boots on and your gun barrel smoking..

    • Angel Wannabe

      daniel, things escalated when Bush got in, and after 9/11!

      • ValDM

        It wasn’t the last Bush, but the first who made speeches about the NWO. I remember hearing this on one of his State of the Union speeches. I gave me chills then, and doesn’t get any easier to swallow

        • Angel Wannabe

          valDM, your right it was Daddy Bush!_ I never heard dubya say anything about the NWO, I stand corrected.

        • Harold Olsen

          Yeah, when I heard Bush, Sr talk about the New World Order in one of his speeches, I felt a chill up my back and it was not a pleasant feeling.

          • Angel Wannabe

            me too harold!_ This is stuff that we read in books, sadly not any longer.

          • Kate8

            Harold, AngelW – Me, as well.

            Back in the ’80s I remember having recurring nightmares of a van driving around on the streets with a loudspeaker announcing, “This is the New World Order”, and feeling horrified.

            When I was a very small child I was having dreams about seeing strange flying craft in the sky, things crashing and exploding in the distance and a feeling of great dread. I had them so often that they are vivid to this day.

          • S.C.Murf

            Didn’t they all belong to the Skull and Bones secret society while they were at one of the big lawyer colleges back east? I’ve read that it is
            quite the organization. A lot of big names on their rosters. Look it up it will surprise you!!!!

          • Angel Wannabe

            Sc Murf, Yeah I read that too, alot of names.

          • http://?? Joe H.

            C.F.Murf,
            Yup, ring knockers all!!!

  • Curtis Bostic

    its a shame that a handful of little nerdy faggots have to control the world

  • http://none daniel jacobson

    yes it is we out number them but the sheeple are a sleep..try talking to someone about this nwo sometime they think your crazy…i guess when there in a fema camp then they will wake up

    • Harold Olsen

      Not only are they asleep but most will probably tell you they’ve never heard the term “New World Order” before. They’ll probably think that us whackos on this forum are just making it up. They prefer to just stick their heads in the sand and believe they are safe. Actually, that’s bad analogy. Ostriches, contrary to popular belief, stick their head in the sand to find water, not to hide.

      • eddie47d

        The left has been complaining about the New World Order a lot longer than the right….and guess what? It’s the same people you talk about. I’m not sure if it’s good or bad that you folks have pulled your heads out of the sand and got on board. Instead of comparing the truths both sides run with innuendos against the other side.

        • Kate8

          eddie – That’s the whole point! All of those in power on both sides are part of the NWO. That’s how they rise to power in the first place.

          Never mind what party ticket they run on. It is WE the People they seek to divide, weaken and conquer. And they’ve succeeded beyond their wildest dreams.

          Until we realize that we have all been manipulated ideologically so that we turn on one another, we will continue to battle amongst ourselves while the machine at the top grows bigger and stronger.

        • Kate8

          You see, eddie, we on the Right tend to recognize the treasonous among us, and we withdraw support. You on the Left seem to just seem to check the box next to the “D”, no questions asked.

          • eddie47d

            So many assumptions!

          • Kate8

            Years of astute observation, eddie.

          • eddie47d

            You better go back to class.

          • Vicki

            Eddie47d. We only have your words here to know you by. And your words here do not paint the picture of a freeman.

          • eddie47d

            Too much sadistic behavior and talk on this site. At least I know where the evil is hiding!

          • http://?? Joe H.

            Yeah, same place as your head. THOOMP!!!!

          • eddie47d

            Another evil rat slinking out of the sewer

  • Mick

    Angel Wannabe says:
    December 10, 2010 at 8:26 am
    Mick and AL S__I think whats most heart breaking about this whole thing, is there are people who will actually listen too the Government and do as they’re told, as TIME said.
    The Progressive agenda is moving at breakneck speed now, I’ve never seen such changes take place in such a short period of time. We’ve seen changes in the past, but they were more subtle. And rumor has it now, that Soros isn’t happy with Obama. I can’t imagine why?_So far Obama and his band of Merry Thieves have done a fine job transforming America into European Socialism right before our eyes, (Sarcasm applied). The arrogance, the lack of fear of the progressives is appalling.
    ****************************************
    Angel,,,,,Being from Europe originally but a proud American just the same i know exactly what you mean and you’re absolutely right with your assertion about America becoming as bad as Europe,,,,I just got into an argument with my long time girlfriend from France over the phone i didn’t sugarcoat my feeling about their socialists ways and how destructive it was for their country, needless to say she refuses to talk to me because she became a total leftist and i refuse to agree with her,,,,OH ! WELL……………………..

    • Angel Wannabe

      It’s a shame Mick, but thats what these commies want, they want people they can control. I’m figuring, I’ll go down with the ship fighting that!

  • Howard R Gray

    Civil disobedience is a very practical strategy but it has to be managed with skill and foresight. The powers that be, often the benighted police get stuck with having to handle the problems of civil unrest and are not schooled in understanding the nuances of how to deal with protests. Their political masters often are disingenuous in permitting untrained forces to butt heads with demonstrators inducing violence as an excuse to clamp down on dissent. The recent announcements about the Tea Party as being a source of potential violence were defamatory at best and quasi seditious at worst, no one in their right mind for one moment thought the Tea Party movement was ever predicated on violence as a viable political strategy. The intent was for leftists, the masters of political violence, to create a scare that would allow them to equate those that disagree with them as equally violent. The idea is to justify political screening and intrusive investigation of their enemies, after all they do use that word in common discourse, even the president for a moment dipped into that pool.

    The left in the more rarified circles are aware that this moment in history is probably the best they have for making revolutionary hay. The Tea Party wasn’t expected, it grew spontaneously and that, more than anything they could possibly imagine, offended their sense of divine right to rule in perpetuity. They have next to no time to spring the change to some form of socialism in line with the world government template for our future. Anything that might derail that Soros train to a closed society is evidently a matter of deep concern to them. The lack of profiling and other features of security are evidence that the process is as much aimed at the citizens of the nation as at our enemies. The borders remain open and so on. What is really happening isn’t easy to discern, on the one hand you might conclude that there is a desire to constituency build in the south or is it that there is so much money sloshing around in the background to the immigration debate that it corrupts the political process. How much money is there in human trafficking and the drug trade? On the one hand there is a desire to spy on us but on the other there are holes in security that a coach and horses nay a whole wagon train can drive through. The whole security debate and its ancillaries such as immigration and terror control are lost in an obviously asymmetric argument process. This is deliberate, thus the desire to control and set up means to control those who don’t agree with the establishment is what is really going on. What isn’t understood by the left is that this methodology isn’t working; we are slowly getting ahead of the game. There is rhyme and reason here it just isn’t quite what you might expect. The 911 event gave cause to increase intrusion to greater effect with regard to spying on the nation rather than its enemies. No one takes it seriously that the TSA will prevent a determined attack that will happen simply by walking around the “security” that is nothing more than elaborate window dressing. The problem is that the civil service or the non elected government system is becoming a monster out of control; it bends policy in directions that were never the intent of those who voted for the elected government. The duty of all and the Tea Party is to redress the balance of power in a more directional manner. Don’t expect any help from the civil libertarians though, they are stuck in the socialist inversion principle, take any title such as liberty, progressive and reverse its meaning, or take any policy they accuse others of favoring, they would immediately approve and enact once in absolute power. Since when did the death penalty phase out in Cuba, Russia, China and North Korea?

    The solution here is that there are enough people in the nation to change the debate and return to constitutional principles, the Tea Party is intent on just that and it will succeed, the alternative isn’t worth considering, no leftist can ever point to a successful government on this earth ever, that is as good a reason as any to dismiss them.

    • eddie47d

      In the 60′s peaceful demonstrations were infiltrated by the “bomb throwers”. Today the peaceful Tea Party is being infiltrated by outside “bomb throwers”. That would be the Klan,neo-nazi’s and a few renegade militias.So far the Tea Party is courageous and sincere and keeps the renegades at a distance.In the 60′s the voice of good people were shouted down and the crazies took over. I’m aware there are Tea Party folks on this site so to them I say beware. Don’t fall for those extremists (crazies) in sheep’s clothing.Before you say it won’t happen I have heard a couple of Tea Party people on this site advocating for violence. I’m just saying don’t let the good people be shouted down for they will leave.

      • Anthony

        This goes for the Leftist Orgainzations, as well.

        It’s not a one-way street…………

    • Kate8

      Howard R Gray – Very well thought-out post. Thank you.

  • Jean

    As for Wal-Mart – they are the largest food distribution center in North America. What does this tell you – that a short food supply is possible because of higher prices. Will there be food riots?

    I also heard this morning that the Christmas tree at the White House is now to be called a “Holiday Tree” and the ornaments will have NO religous references on them. Heaven help us all.

    • Angel Wannabe

      your right Jean, the Government reigned Walmart in too, they’re dividing everything up!

    • Dan az

      Jean
      Thats true,when the tree went through town here the kids where to make ornaments for it and they where told it could not have religious themes!But i see now that wallmart has orniments of oboma on them so i guess its ok to hang a black man from a tree again.Sorry I couldnt resest.

      • http://?? Joe H.

        Dan az,
        Bad, Bad Dan!! Go stand in the corner for one minute for every year of age you are!!! LOL!!

        • Kate8

          Joe H. – And now, Obama has been immortalized in a ————–CHIA PET!!!

          • Angel Wannabe

            kate8_ “ROFLMAO”!!!!!!!!!!!

          • Dan az

            Kate You can stand next to me in the corner!lol

      • Al Sieber

        Dan az, knew you couldn’t resist it.

        • Dan az

          Hey Al
          You bet that one was waiting in the wings for a while!
          Hows things?Heard the winter might might be mild so I expect to see ya soon!

  • Reality Check

    Why Wal Mart … they receive a TON of grant money. That is what keeps the prices low, plus importing their goods from China. Additionally the most bang for their buck … a very large part of the population shops at Wal Mart. Wal Mart also gets the added benefit of reports may reduce shop lifting. If we were a more honest society, these things would not be so easy to inact.

    • Karolyn

      Where the hell did you hear that? I can’t find anything about it. WalMart GIVES grants.

      • Angel Wannabe

        Karolyn , read the sentence again, he said “that Walmart “GETS” tons of grant money”.

        • S.C.Murf

          They only see and hear what they want to.

          • Angel Wannabe

            SC Murf, Yup!

        • Karolyn

          Angel, I know what I read. What I said is that I can find nothing in my research saying that WalMart GETS any money from the gov. AND what I said is that WalMart GIVES money through its foundation!! What I asked for was where is this info found? Is this just another rumor perpetrated by the likes of Ben Crystal?

          • Angel Wannabe

            Karolyn, look, I’m not tryin to be a smart azz here, when your looking for info, ya can’t quit at one or two pages, ya got to sift through it. Then you gotta trust yourself enough to know the truth when you find it.

    • Karolyn

      The prices are so low at WalMart because it is the largest retail corporation in the world and has so much purchasing power they get stuff for next to nothing!

  • Rocky

    Well Gov. Perry, Its time for Texas to secede and send Wal Mart back to Ark. “Pres. Perry” has a nice ring to it.

    • Harold Olsen

      I spent my last year in the army in Texas–Fort Sam Houston. If Texas secedes, I may move back there. I like living in the United States but I don’t like the idea of living in the Union of Soviet States.

      • Angel Wannabe

        Thanks for your service to our once great Country Harold, and God Bless You_I’m not so sure how great she’s gonna be in the future, unless we have a divine intervention.

      • Kate8

        Harold, Apparently the plan is to divide the US into 10 sections. We already have the council of governors, or whatever Odumbo called it. Each of these governors will be assigned a section.

        So far we’re proceeding on schedule. Next stop, rioting, chaos, martial law…

        • eddie47d

          It’s President Obama not Odumbo It’s President Bush no matter what I think of him. You are really lowering yourself Kate.

          • Anthony

            His name.. is Barry Soetoro.

            He was born in Kenya / 1961 – ask his wife.
            In 1961, Kenya was a British Colony – this makes him British

            It has been attested that there is no Hawaii Birth Certificate
            He also does NOT own a Hawaiian Social Security number – I haven’t seen it.
            He DOES, however, have a Connecticutt Social Security number – explain that.

            It is documented that Barry “falsified his Selective Service paperwork
            BY LAW – this nullifies his option to serve as POTUS, outright – BY LAW

            He has locked down his own personal papers and educational documentation.
            At the same time, he “demanded” that Hillary Clinton publicly show her papers to the entire Country. Something he, himself, was not willing to do – and never has.

            Fact – GW Bush graduated from the Chicago University of Law
            Fact – Barry Soetoro taught at this very same University….

            Question – How do they differ?

            Answer – GW’s mother hasn’t had her paperwork misplaced (on purpose?)

          • Kate8

            eddie – Bush was a legitimate President. Odumbo is a usurper, a foreign agent, a commie and a phoney, with far more questions about his life than answers.

            I will never recognize him as President. Or even American. He and his commie wife need to be taken out of the WH like yesterday’s trash.

          • eddie47d

            I now recognize your ilk as the un-American trash!

    • Kate8

      Rocky – He swears he isn’t interested in running.

  • http://none daniel jacobson

    yes its true daddy bush mentioned the nwo plenty of times..do any of you know right before his speech when he mentioned the nwo he was in rome at the vatican talking to the pope???? also prescott bush GH BUSHES FATHER helped finance hitler?? very evil people..GW BUSH may not have mentioned it but he sure did move it forward in a big way..do any of you know the GW bushes brother was in charge of security of the trade towers??? and anyone who believes 911 was not an inside job is just plain stupid…jet fuel cannot melt steel..911 responders mentioned hearing a series of exslosions just before they came down..now they are being told to shut up.. i think we are screwed..i hope im wrong

    • Angel Wannabe

      Yeah Daniel, I read about Prescott bush too. Thas why I believe alot of people are against dubya. But I look at it this way, dubya is no more responsible for the actions of his Father or Grandfather, than we are, for the actions of our ancesters who used blacks as slaves.

    • Woody

      Jet fuel cannot melt steel? Are you serious? It is the heat that melts the steel.

      HMMM steel can be shaped on a simple force using charcoal, but jet fuel cannot generate enought heat?

      Just what do you think they use to MAKE steel? it is molten when made and formed. What are mills using?

      Hoh much magnesium is in a plane? what happens when magnesium ignites? (and wet magnesium burns at an even higher tempterature.

      • awake

        how do you explain tower 7?

      • Anthony

        Have you even bothered to watch LOOSE CHANGE?

        http://www.nwofordummies.com

        • http://?? Joe H.

          Anyhony,
          check your site you listed!!!

        • Al Sieber

          Anthony, I have both copies of “Loose Change”, I’ve been making copies and handing them out for years.

    • Vance65

      You are a complete freaking idiot. If you don’t believe two jumbo jets loaded with fuel could not take down those buildings you are just retarded and need to kill yourself and spare the world of your stupidity.

      • Angel Wannabe

        Vance65, I don’t believe that theory either, about Bush causing 9/11. I’m no expert, but I think if a fire burns intensly hot and long enough, anything would collapse.

        • Kate8

          AngelW – For anyone to say that Bush (personally) caused 9/11 is ridiculous. But I do believe that the NWO elites were behind it, and I also think that Bush was aware of it. He had to be. Condi admitted that they were warned. The look on his face said it all.

          I don’t know how involved W is in the NWO, but he got elected POTUS, didn’t he? No one gets that far unless they are chosen by the PTB. Only the “IN” crowd gets even close. Do the math.

          It seems that each President has carried out his part in the advancement toward world government. And now we are at the door.

          • Angel Wannabe

            kate, I agree, and have heard that about the “in” crowd._Dubya may have gotten “in” as POtUS via His Father and Grandfather, such as on they’re coat tails, so to speak?!_How do we explain Reagan?__I tell ya how I explain Reagan, God put him in there, b/c the “in” crowd didn’t want him in there, remember the assasination attempt?.

          • Kate8

            AngelW – Apparently, there have been a few exceptions, like JFK and Reagan.

            W belonged to Skull and Bones and who knows what else. That seems to be a continuous thread with leaders – being part of secret societies, many of which are factions of a greater secret society. And they all seem to come from certain bloodlines.

            Obama appears to be an anomaly as far as bloodline, but who knows what snakes lurk in that grass. I think he was born, bred and scripted for where he is now to fulfill his destiny as part of the NWO. They needed someone who could appeal to the lower-class masses as being “one of them”. Of course, he never ways, but he looks the part.

          • Karolyn

            I heard years ago a conspiracy theory that the assasination attempt on Reagan was because he wouldn’t join the “Club”. Probably the same for JFK.

          • Kate8

            Karolyn, That does seem to be the case. The same with Lincoln.

          • Dan az

            Kate I never thought that dubya was to bright but look who was left behind to baby sit as vice?His back ground is the one that scares me juniors was just in the bottom of a bottle.

          • Claire

            I simply do not believe Bush was behind the 9/11 attack. Cheney is another story, I would not put anything past this guy.

        • http://?? Joe H.

          Angel,
          Those buildings are just like a big chiminey!!! Given the height of the fire, the flames would be fanned like a giant blow torch!!! the steel didn’t have to melt the steel as some would suggest only weaken it so as to collaps down on the stories below and the sudden added weight would have collasped the whole shebang!!!

          • Angel Wannabe

            JoeH, Like I said I’m no expert in this stuff joe, but in my mind, given where the planes hit the towers, the amount of heat & damage the crash created for that length of time, coupled with the weight bearing down of the upper floors, _I think the terrorists knew well what they were doing!

          • Al Sieber

            JoeH, what about Building #7? Jet fuel is kerosene and burns at 1800*F, in a controlled environment, such as a Jet engine.most of the fuel dissipated on impact. the fire didn’t go down the elevator shafts they were sealed, heat rises. there were around 14 elevators in the World Trade Centers. take a cutting torch and try and cut a 1″ thick steel beam and see how long it takes to cut through it, I have lots of time. I also have experience with explosives through mining, knowing how to break rock. this is just another point of view.

          • Dan az

            Hey Al
            My memory isn’t that great but do you remember who was useing that building?I heard it was the CIA at the time and I think that it was empty when it went down kinda like the oklahoma building at 9.30 in the morning and know feds where in it at the time.Kinda smells fishy to me!

      • http://GOGGLE vaksal

        TO; vance65 i am just hoping this doesnt seem like it is an attack on what you posted,first nano-thermite was found all over in the dust samples,6months after the attacks on the twin towers,second as anyone knows that the fuel(any type)without oxygen cannot burn,and even if it has oxygen,it can only burn to given heat range in a given area,example a car engine,a piston can only generate only so much horse power by the oxygen it gets,for it makes fuel burn,what i am trying to say is that test was shown on televison on a show that debunks,legends,well the same type steel beam heated up and warped slighty,but didnt melt.they used aircraft fuel (GRADE NO.1 kerosene)no melt,the point is that nano-thermite,burns at the same heat value as the sun generates,it has been around since the middle 1880s when it was used to weld steel and railroad tracks,everything,and just a tiny amount would melt high grade steel very quickly.i hope what i posted helps.take care vance65,please keep posting,from the old guy vaksal.

        • Aix Sponsa

          With due respect Sir, you are incorrect. I’m an engineer and jet fuel could bring down those buildings, and I believe did. In fact, before they fell I predicted it to associates. Remember any experiment/ exercise designed to prove a specific point, will; and look correct doing it. I will be brief= Big buildings are build hollow in the middle with elevator shafts and utility shafts, like a chimney. Jet fuel dumped down the shafts and heat rising sucking air from the bottom (confirmed by witnesses) is like a chimney flue fire (blast furnace) and did melt the beams. Then the buildings floors collapsed like a karate expert breaking separated bricks. Oversimplified but accurate.

          • Angel Wannabe

            You explained that well Aix Sponsa!

          • Dan az

            Aix
            If you would go to some of the sites that are on you tube they will show you something that you are unaware of.The fact that the support beams under the rubble where cut at a 45 deg. and the rescuers didnt have the equipment to cut such thick steel and at those places let alone at such perfect angles and with all of the fire proofing that was sprayed on them to stop any type of exposure to high heat,it had to be removed first to make the cuts and it was confirmed by engineers that it was in the perfect places that they would use to take the building down.The jet fuel does not reach the tempetures that are need need to melt tempered steel.but it does help if the structure is ready ahead of time to deform such mass.

          • Angel Wannabe

            Dan Az, Picking your brain and anyone else’s brain that wants to chime in__is it true. that they’re were two Mosques located in the twin towers and “Just” happened to move out two weeks prior to the 9/11 attack?

          • Dan az

            Angel
            I heard that but have never seen anything on it Sorry.

        • Aix Sponsa

          http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DREAM_Act

          On December 8, 2010, the DREAM Act passed in the House of Representatives, 216-198.[33] The House passed the bill on to the Senate. [34]

        • http://?? Joe H.

          vaksal,
          you forgot one element in that theory. The whole airframe on those aircraft are made from a magnesium alloy!!! Put a little magnesium into the mix and also add the air funneling up from the chimney like effect of a tower and you could very well and easily weaken/melt steel!!! While JP4 jet fuel only burns at about 840* the magnesium alloy would burn at a slightly higher temp than straight magnesium which is 2500*. 2500 degrees is easily high enough to greatly weaken steel. Oh, and before you ask, magnesium will ignite at about 830* so the magnesium could have very easily started burning!

          • Dan az
          • http://?? Joe H.

            Dan az,
            Look closely at those beams. They have been torch cut! I’ve used a torch many, many times, and that is exactly the was the slag would run down the surface of the beams! Had those support beams been cut before the crash, the bldgs would have collapsed before! Those beams are at the base of the bldgs. I still stand by my idea of what happened.

          • Al Sieber

            JoeH, check out Thermite, or Thermate, my friend works for the railroad and uses it to cut through steel.

          • http://?? Joe H.

            Al,
            Have you ever looked at those thermite cuts?? They look like they were made by a rectilinear flame cutter or plasma. Smooth1 even a man that has used a torch and never used thermite could make a smooth cut!!

  • S.C.Murf

    If you all are going to boycott Walmart, don’t go inside but do get your gas there, from what I understand is that the oil to create the gas at walmart comes from our own wells here in the U.S. Am I correct?

    • S.C.Murf

      Lets not boycott ourselves, Ok?

  • Lueder

    Not that I believe everything on Snopes, but the Snopes website does say that it is still called a “Christmas Tree” and that Laura Bush asked for non-religious tree ornaments.

  • marvin

    the house voted yesterday for amnesty for illegals[the dream act]and 8 repubs voted for it most where hispanic,that tells me they are not real american a real american will not put skin color or race or gender befor what is right,you do not vote for the race of the person,but what is good for the american people reguardless of race,two good ones are rangels and hasting both crooks both sent to congress,to all that had a republican congress person that voted for the night mair called the dream act let then know what you think and where you stand in 2012 show them the door,this is not ameramex or americuba if you are in this country legal and a citizen you are an american,even my blue dog dem that was voted out of office did not vote for the dream act

    • Kate8

      marvin – This treasonous Congress knows exactly how the American people feel about this. It is another slap in our collective face to get the point across that we don’t matter anymore. We are irrelevant livestock and our days are numbered, anyway.

      • Angel Wannabe

        Kate and Marvin, I hate to say it, but Washington is seriously outta control.

      • http://?? Joe H.

        Kate*,
        I gotta check out the records tomorrow to see who the repubs were that voted for that treasonist bill!!! I will automatically vote against ALL libby progressives but I want to know who the turncoats were!!!

        • http://?? Joe H.

          Sorry I guess I’m kinda tired that should be Kate8!!!

    • Aix Sponsa

      Excuse me Sir, but you are incorrect. This is MexiMerica, and whatever south Florida should be called. WE willfully gave up our nation 3 decades ago by not seriously inforcing the immigration rules. Like the school in CA that stopped white students from wearing American Flag shirts because it offended the Mexis. Many patriots across the nation are expecting war. The great liberal social experiment of the 60s has finally come to fruition.

    • Karolyn

      Do you even know what the “Dream Act” is about? Those kids (who were brought here by their parents) who get the chance at citizenship will not be eligible for grants but must either attend college or go into the military to be eligible for citizenship. What is wrong with that?

      • Kate8

        Karolyn, Once again, illegal aliens are given opportunities not open to American, tax-paying citizens. That’s one thing that’s wrong with it.

        The other thing is that democrats are doing this to get their votes. It’s nothing but more shameless pandering, done at the expense of, and with contempt toward, the American people.

      • Dan az

        Karolyn
        The way to infiltrate the military by muslims yemens arackies is to be given the permission of such a law like the Dream act.Not all illegals are mexicans and the last thing you want to do is have the enemy of a country that you are at war with to have sleeper cells in your military!

      • http://?? Joe H.

        karolyn,
        I believe I read the other day that they COULD apply for grants!!! California, I know for sure. The demonstrating started over the raising of tuition rates for citizens and here they were fighting to give the kids of illegals grants!!

        • Karolyn

          I heard a debate about it the other day on (Oh, horror!) NPR in which it was stated that they would have to go to college using their own money and would NOT be eligible for grants. Now, that’s federal; who knows about California.

          • Kate8

            Ya gotta wonder just what constitutes their “own money”. Would that be the government assistance check they get to pay for their housing and expenses?

            I know that in California, they get reduced tuition, available only to illegals.

          • Kate8

            Karolyn – The thing with NPR and other liberal media outlets is not so much what they report (distorted though it may be), but what they DON’T report.

            And people like you assume that if they don’t report it, it doesn’t exist. In truth, the same goes for FoxNews and other more conservative outlets, as well.

            Can’t you see how easy it is to control how people think by controlling what they hear? Are you really so naieve to believe that isn’t happening?

            There are actually several websites that are neither Right nor Left. Ones that recognize the game and go for the truth. It’s up to each of us to figure out which ones they are. It is in our nature to judge any source of info by what we choose to believe. Truth has little to do with it, it seems.

  • Woody

    Do what I do with clients.

    Give them exactly what they want till they scream for mercy. Seriously, the left won’t oppose this untill it is used against them.

    Report every left leaning person you know for ‘suspiscious behavior.’ See a reporter for the media? might really be a spy eavedropping. Report it. Neighbor ‘opposes’ Glen Beck or Palin, report them for ‘infringing on civil liberties and opposing diversity.’ Eventually the left will scream for repeal.

    • eddie47d

      The left already know that the right will turn them in. Nothing new there.

      • Kate8

        eddie – I guess we’ll see who starts turning in who.

        Wanna make a bet on that?

      • Dan az

        See eduh its starting to catch on.Knock knock knock.He has a gun officer and he said he was going to go postal!Just trying to be a good citizen sir!

  • marvin

    when obama was first elected they would send me emails and ask what i thought ,i told nepolitano to do her job or get out of goverment after a few emails to obama and holder and nepolitano telling them to do their job or get out,they stop sending me emails,so i would be safe in saying i am on their sh-t list

    • Kate8

      marvin – Remember when they said that they know who we are how we vote?

      • http://?? Joe H.

        Kate8,
        All they would have to do is go to a few sites like this and they would have a fair idea of how we vote!!!

        • Kate8

          Joe H. – They already know how we register. Plus, on our ballots, we have to sign our name and give our address.

          • http://?? Joe H.

            Kate8,
            I’m waiting for the time someone official says I voted liberal!! They will get their azz jacked up so dam far they will need a 30 foot ladder to get back down! In 42 years I have never voted liberal and NEVER will!!!

  • Vance65

    Screw the Government. The Bush admin. started this crap and the Obama Commies are taking advantage of the opportunity to stop dissent. I am afraid that we will see armed resistance to the government in our lifetime. We must be very aware of a Government that spys on its own people. I am sure I am on a list somewhere. I am a Vet, I dislike the government, I hate Obama and all of his crooked regime. I own multiple weapons aand plenty of ammo. The massive expansion of government can only lead down one path and that path is socialism and a totalitarian state.

    • Kate8

      Vance65 – Bush didn’t start anything. He picked up the baton and did as he was told to do, just like Clinton and all who’ve gone before. And just like Obama is doing now.

      Bush was no more nor less powerful than any other. They are all puppets. Nothing more. Especially starting with Clinton, they’ve just seemed like empty suits, incapable of original thought. Clinton came across as a good-time-Charlie; W, a goofball; Obama, an idiot who can read well. Usually.

      Never mind. They fulfilled their part in the destruction of America.

  • Bob Wire

    time to move back to the country!

    sounds like to me, ~ Send Tonto into town!

    Remember all the problems Tonto had on his town shopping trips.

    The towns people would catch them an Injun , kick him around and string him up and celebrate their victory!

    Leaving the Masked Man to saddle up Silver and go save his bacon.

    ha! the good old days.

    It’s just a big circle and little new but the toys to do it with.

    These Muslim types has us all on edge and acting a little goose’y.

    In Tonto’s case, he was there first, but that didn’t matter to us. They were infidels, Godless red skins.

    In the Muslims case we were here first and it “does matter” and they are the ones out of place while calling us the infidels.

    It’s Amazing how we can justify and validate our thoughts and feeling.

    I’m beginning to believe we run on drama and fear.

    It’s wise to be watchful, is my take on it.

    • eddie47d

      Everyone loves a good enemy to strenghten their own beliefs.In the case of the Indian many tribes were wiped out to make room for another “superior” group. The removal of natives was mostly mandated and few were compensated. Now we have some folks who say there will be forced removal into FEMA camps and property confiscated. Deja Vu. I wonder where their ancestors stood on the Indian issue?

      • Kate8

        eddie, How does repeating atrocity ever justify the past? All it shows is that humanity does not evolve, and does not learn from mistakes.

        America was not the first to conquer another land, nor the last. And most of us here today are not descended from the early settlers, did not have slaves, and only immigrated in the last century.

        That justification is getting tedious. Open your eyes to the evil and corruption of ALL nations from the beginning of time, and stop harping that it’s all about us.

        • eddie47d

          I know alot about history and only point out what you always conveniently ignore. Your ship is so one sided at times it will tip over and sink. So cool your bluster.

          • Kate8

            Okay, eddie, What am I ignoring?

            I just think dwelling in the past to justify the present is pointless, and that seems to be what you all are about. We need to admit our mistakes and move forward. We are new people, and shouldn’t have to constantly be expected to lament and pay for the errors of history.

            Every nation has a shameful past, and some much more brutal than ours. What does that have to do with the present, other than to see what road we should avoid?

          • PacificRim

            I think Eddie has been educated beyond his intelligence…

          • Dan az

            Eddiee what am I thinking right now?

          • eddie47d

            There is nothing up there to decipher.

          • http://?? Joe H.

            eddduuuuhh!
            didn’t you mean there’s nothing up there to decifer WITH??? You were talking about your head, right???

  • MsLiberty

    I fear you are all going overboard with your negative views of “if you see something say something”. REMEMBER 9/11 PLEASE! I lived through it and hope to never again. I’ll watch out for would be terrorists amongst us.

  • JJ

    Send walmart a comment about their actions and its automatically forwarded to DHS. Just a guess. Not a big deal if they don’t know who I am by now they never will.

  • awake

    Maybe we should start flooding their phones with call that we are seeing suspicious activities at a government level

  • Freddie

    Yes, it does remind me of Germany, Italy, France, and Russia during WWII. Does the term SHEEP come to mind for many Americans? Most of them are and have no concept of FREEDOM. This is why I’m moving to nowheresville and only the law of God will apply on my property, not some Socialist Government trying to tell me what to do. Please don’t tell me the Sovereignshave it right.

  • John

    WHAT’S EVERY BODY WAITING FOR!………..WELL?……TIC…TIC TIC…TIC…TIC……………………………………….GAME OVER!!

  • Bob Wire

    Hmm, I got a neighbor that has a howling Beagle dog, bought him in as a pup 13 years ago. I told her then, I was going to get me a donkey!

    For 12 years I’ve had to listen to that darn dog of hers howl. He gets under the porch, at the back door and howls for hours to be let in. Where she home or not, it don’t matter.

    I spoke with her about it several times, she says, she hasn’t hear him but she hears the dog behind her place bark a lot. ~~ What ta hell? The damn thing is going to live to be 20 I guess.

    It’s all I could do to prevent a rifle ball from traveling the 400 ft and put him out of his misery.

    I think he might be a Muslim dog, I seen him digging in the back yard, probably buried a explosive device of some sort.

    Think I’m going to turn him in.

    • S.C.Murf

      Cute, a laugh is good for the soul. Thank You!

    • http://?? Joe H.

      Barb,
      So go over and pet the dam dog for cripes sake!!! Usually their only problem is they want a little attention!!! Just be a little humane!!

      • Dan-o

        I wouldn’t put up with that sh_t, ether shut the dog up or someones going to be shot. the dog or the owner.

        • Claire

          Dan-o — Don’t blame the dog, blame the owner. The owner obviously is a jerk. I have 8 dogs, and only 2 of them bark at strangers, etc. but they are not foolish barkers, thank the good Lord. I wouldn’t allow them to bark and torment the neighbors anyway. I keep them busy. They have their basketball, their football, and other toys, and they are happy and satisfied. I take the time and “hide” stuff in the back yard–they are busy smelling and searching to see what is hidden and when they find it, they race around like crazy. We also play ball with them a lot. I line them up, call out a name and that dog has to catch the tennis ball and return it to me. Then I call another name and repeat the procedure. They know they go after the ball when their name is called. A “busy” dog is a happy dog. Sorry for the rambling, I have a tendency to do this.

          • Kate8

            Claire – Your dogs have it better than some kids! Like you said, how a person feels about animals says a lot about his heart.

          • Dan az

            Claire Im coming to live with you I feel abused.lol

          • Claire

            Kate8–I do a lot with the dogs, especially since Bob cannot hunt anymore, and a bird dog needs to hunt. This is why I came up with the “bright” idea of hiding things. The only problem is that they usually find them right away, they have a keen sense of smell and can track anything in a hurry. But nonetheless they get so tickled when they find the bird wings, the toy, the hot dog or biscuit that they take off running like the dickens. (Some of Bob’s friends still hunt and they keep us supplied with bird wings.) I take them running at the obedience club twice a week-there is a huge fenced-in area that is simply wonderful for dogs to run. The way I figure it is that these dogs were wonderful hunting companions for Bob, and they showed their hearts out in the show ring for me and won so many times when I thought we didn’t have a chance in winning especially with the competition. I have to give them a good life, they have earned it.

          • Claire

            Dan az– You are welcome anytime, friend.

      • Claire

        JoeH– You are correct in what you say. The poor dog just wants some companionship.

      • Dan az

        Joe I think the dogs name is ediee I wouldnt pet him!

        • http://?? Joe H.

          Dan az,
          how dare you insult DOGS like that????

  • Jim Whiteker

    Just imagine… with illegals in the military service to become citizens (according to DREAM ACT), and our own guys overseas, who do you think will be watching and gladly enforcing martial law here? Or am I a nutjob, too? Coincidentally–obamma wants to appoint (during the recess) the rabid anti-gun Andrew Traver to head the BATF which is anti-gun rights as well. Call the White House 202-456-1111 to oppose!
    Jimbo

    • Karolyn

      Geez! You just cannot accept anyone different than you can you? Any young person in this country since they were a child loves this country and wants to be an American. What makes you think they would betray this country? Why is everything in your world so sinister?

      • http://?? Joe H.

        karolyn,
        Prove they have been here non-stop for the whole time!!

  • FreedomFighter

    The evil “sinistra” are laying the groundwork for the private army to secure America.

    Problem – walmart terrorists

    Trigger – walmart customer spits gum, grumbles “obama sucks” and is heard by left wing nutcase.

    Solution – take your freedom to save you from the evil walmart gum spitting shopper.

    You are being conditioned like so much cattle to give up your freedom and liberty.

    Stop the evil “sinistra”

    Laus Deo
    Semper Fi

  • Aix Sponsa

    Civil War is imminent.

  • Kate8

    Aix – That’s exactly what they’re hoping. It will make their day.

    Can you say “martial law”?

    • Aix Sponsa

      Should American Patriots do nothing? Just wait until the inevitable economic and social collapse hits in the next 18 months.
      Oh, ya. I forgot. That can not happen in the USA.

      • Kate8

        Aix – We haven’t exactly been doing nothing. But we don’t want to jump the gun.

        Things are so out of control, and so far beyond our scope of ability, that what we need to do is pray like never before, and then trust that God will let us know when it is time to act, and how. Without Him leading the Way, we are toast.

        • Angel Wannabe

          Amen to that kate.

    • eddie47d

      The only sights and sounds we hear about martial law is on extreme right wing webs and TV. Their minds are filled with impending doom so they must be the ones itching for it.

      • Karolyn

        The surest way to make it happen is to perpetuate the thought of it.

  • Aix Sponsa

    On December 8, 2010, the DREAM Act passed in the House of Representatives, 216-198.[33] The House passed the bill on to the Senate. Wikipedia

  • Raggs

    Our second admendment has givin us the right to bare arms for this very reason… TYRANNY!

    • Karolyn

      Nobody ever said you couldn’t go sleeveless! :-)

      • http://?? Joe H.

        This from the lady that got corrected a little while ago by, let’s see was it libertytrain or Angel Wannabe??

        • http://?? Joe H.

          I believe the word was exagerrate???

  • Carol

    I do not use google because Barry Soetoro (Obama) watches what you look up on that site and it is none of business.

    I never go into WalMart because to me walking in there is like walking into a dirty bar and drinking out of glass with a roach in it and that is a fact. It is so dirty and the people that work there are so rude and most of them can’t even speak English well enough that I get furious.

    • Karolyn

      Wow! Where ddo you live? Our WalMart is very nice, and the people are very friendly for the most part. If I had to worry about somebody looking over my shoulder all the time, I wouldn’t be able to do anything. I refuse to live in fear of “Big Brother” or anybody else!

      • Kate8

        Karolyn – You don’t fear BigBro now, because you can’t see what’s really happening. But you will soon…

        • eddie47d

          More tea leaves popping up!

          • Dan az

            Eddieeeeeee
            They seem to want you back now So please try to make them understand that we dont hate you we just cant resest the thought that you could be the next terrorist with all those bombs in the basement .Really I dont know how they found out it must of been your other neighbor with the scope out his window watching you it wasnt me. Knock knock knock.Give yet?

          • eddie47d

            Still nothing upstairs in Dan’s noggin.

      • libertytrain

        This has nothing to do with anything but you and I are fortunate to live in a region where the Kmart and Walmart do have friendly employees, as a rule, and clean stores in most small towns. They are not the same in other places outside our part of the South and the big Walmart Superstores as a rule, aren’t great here or anywhere that I’ve been – all I’ve seen are dirty and a general mess.

        • Claire

          libertytrain–We have two Wal-Marts here in town. One on the West side and the other is a big one south of town. I always go to the one on the west side–it is closer. Both stores are clean and the clerks are nice. Went to the mall tonight-had a lot of good sales. Geez, a lot of the stuff I see is Made in China. It makes me ill.

          • http://?? Joe H.

            Claire,
            Try to find one or two things in Walmart that AREN’T made in china!!!

          • Claire

            JoeH–I see the words “Made in China” all over town, everywhere I go! I can remember years and years ago Wal-Mart only sold goods with the label “Made in the USA.” I hope and pray I see that happen again. With all stores. I have bought a few items that said “Proudly Made in the USA.” If I see something that I want, and it says “Made in China” I don’t buy it. I bust my butt to buy items with the label “Made in the USA.” Same with my dogs. If I want something for them and the label says “Made in China” I won’t buy it. If I won’t buy stuff for myself that was made in China I sure as heck won’t buy it for my dogs.

          • PacificRim

            The only thing this country manufactures is HAMBURGERS…

          • Claire

            and hot dogs.

          • libertytrain

            Claire – I was in a higher end store yesterday and I could not find anything made in USA – and it was a sweet, very popular small chain in the region with country things, hiking, etc. kind of store. I put down the made in China shirt and opted for Sir Lanka and Vietnam – for the two shirts I bought – ridiculous.

          • Claire

            libertytrain–I love Macy’s and Bergner’s here in town. I do the same as you–I will buy the item if it is made in a country other than China. Several months ago I had to buy a dog crate–I found one the size that I needed at PetCo and the clerk had to get it down off a high shelf–I checked to see where it was made- it was made in China. I told the clerk I did not want it and he said “I understand.” I drove all over town to find one made in the USA, I found one at Big R. Sure, I burned some gas but it was worth it. It is the satisfaction of knowing I bought something made in the good old USA. Dang! It really gripes the hell out of me. Shame on our government, shame on the big wigs that wanted more money by taking their companies to foreign countries. In the name of all that is holy, why and how was this allowed to happen? Greed and politics. Who was it that said the two-party system will be the downfall of America? Dang, was it John Adams? I will have to look it up.

          • http://?? Joe H.

            libertytrain,
            how do you think I felt? I bought a Viet Nam Vet hat from a vets organization here and guess where IT was made?? Viet freakin Nam!!! That’s just wrong!!!

          • libertytrain

            Well it sure is hard to find anything made in the USA – need to support more artists – :)

  • Kate8

    What??!! I just heard that the government has “lost track” of over 100,000 airplanes! How does that happen?

    • Karolyn

      Where’d you hear that Angel?

      • Angel Wannabe

        Funny Karolyn, I don’t remember saying anything about airplanes??__next excuse?

        • http://?? Joe H.

          Angel Wannabe,
          you just have to remember you both look so much alike!!!

          • Dan az

            I cant even type after that Joe I cant see the keys thanks for that!

          • http://?? Joe H.

            Dan az,
            when your second best, you try harder!!!

    • eddie47d

      Must be all those lax regulations and rules the FAA and other government organizations had to water down or do away with. BP anyone; or no oversight on the banks,or over fishing or whatever!! Americans can do as they please including not registering aircraft.Bio- terrorism anyone? Can’t have the government going after a hothead flying a plane until after it happens. That would infringe on their liberties. Actually Karolyn since it is usually the wealthy who can afford planes (and a few drug runners) then these planes are “lost” to avoid paying taxes and other shenanigans.

      • Kate8

        eddie – That was my first thought, too. Who are the only people who can afford airplanes?

        I heard that the airplane registration fee is $5 per year, which is largely ignored. This from the same people who choke us on vehicle and boat registrations. These creeps exempt themselves from everything.

    • Karolyn

      I just saw the new about that. Apparently, plane owners do not always go through channels when selling their planes, so they are not registered properly.

      • Kate8

        Funny how they can keep track of multi-millions of cars, but they don’t bother with a few planes.

  • Vicki

    From the OP “possible terrorists include people opposed to President Barack Obama,…”

    My my that looks like much of the democrat party these days :)

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/12/09/house-democrats-tax-cuts_n_794404.html

    Guess a new ox is getting gored.

  • Vicki

    For those of you who are feeling helpless against this onslaught of government oppression just remember you are wiser then those who ignore the historical pattern. Also remember the Declaration of Independence.

    “Prudence, indeed, will dictate that governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shown that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such government, and to provide new guards for their future security.”

    While evils are sufferable. How much longer will these evils be sufferable?

  • Buckeye Chuck

    I’ve always been a little uneasy about Walmart. Not even sure why. Looks like I’m right to be uneasy. But I’m very pleased to be on Dear Leader’s enemies list.

    • Vicki

      You will be in very good company to be on that list. Currently though you may have to accept that a lot of liberals were added over the last few days based on their reactions to Obama’s compromise with the Republicans.

      http://articles.latimes.com/2010/nov/18/nation/la-na-democrats-2012-20101119

      • http://?? Joe H.

        Awww heck! Did you HAVE to put that up??? Here I thought I finally made the HONOR roll!!!

  • Chrissie

    Went to my local walmart the other night and I don’t even speak the language – is anyone on this site as worried about Amnesty (DREAM)passing before the lame duck congress gets out? It has already passed the House, where those that got booted felt like retaliating – if we don’t stand up and stop this, we are going to be Norte Mexicali – we have an entire class of people who are lower class and will be dependent on social welfare – are we that stupid that in return for someone mowing our lawn and cleaning our house, we will give them unlimited benefits, tax free, and displace hard working Americans? Lets start a discussion about this!!!

    • Karolyn

      The “Dream Act” is not about giving anything away. It’s about giving children who were brought here by their parents the chance to become citizens but only if they go to college (on their own dime) or join the military.

      • Kate8

        At taxpayer expense.

        • Karolyn

          No, Kate. They would not be eligible for any education grants from the govt.

          • Jim Whiteker

            Karolyn,
            Maybe no grants. It will be too late to make any difference.they WILL BE in the military or national guard who will be watching us at home while our boys are across the world. Who will give them their orders? our socialist leaders? They will be the ones to seal the border finally……so we can’t leave.

          • Karolyn

            ROFLMAO!! You are waaaay out there!

          • Jim Whiteker

            yes, like Noah.

  • GetSense

    The fact of the matter is that Islam considers patriotic American’s, and all other free humans terrorist. That foolishness must be stopped!!!

    • Karolyn

      And you need to get some sense!!!

  • William Barry

    Jefferson didn’t say quite enough in his famous quote about too much power in government hands. What he SHOULD have said was, “A government big enough to give you everything you want is a government strong enough to take away everything you have… and then kill you.”

    And some people here are unknowingly committing themselves to a course of action wherein they may only succeed in getting themselves killed all the faster.

    A hell of a thing to look forward to. But I suppose it’s better than waiting for the inevitable…

  • Markus

    My question is, “What’s in it for Wal-Mart?” What are they going to receive from the regime for allowing themselves to be used in this way. Maybe become the one and only store for goods in America when Obama and his Marxists get done destroying this country. Get ready folks, this has just begun.

    • Karolyn

      YOU GUYS ARE REALLY NUTS!!!!!

      • http://?? Joe H.

        Comming from you……………..!

    • TOM

      If you look at how Wal-Mart does in everything you’ll see their not in it for the people. Their in it for their own selves. Now when Sam Walton was still alive I might be inclined to agree with you. But ever since he passed and others have taken over then it’s all about money and control. They treat their employees like dirt, they come into a community and in up putting the mom and pop stores out of business by lowering prices then after the computation is gone they raise their prices. Wal-Mart is not a good thing. You may however be right about them being the one and only store in America. If you’ll read Revelation 6:5-6 the prices for everything will climb every hour of every day. What you could buy yesterday for one price will cost you more the next day. I’m not trying to anything here but to get you and everyone else to study, look up, research for yourselves, don’t take anybodies word, not even mine, just prove it for yourself. That is what I did, and believe me I started looking at things a whole lot differently.

  • http://espionageaction-actionadventure.blogspot.com stephen russell

    Can I call in some radical raghead or NO, can I call in some Zeta or No.
    Or this whole BS in Non Effective.

  • TOM

    If you want to know how it all ends pick up the good old King James Bible and read Revelation. If you don’t understand get to a good bible believing church or contact a good bible based college like Bob Jones University, Hyles – Anderson Bible College, Tennessee Temple, or many of the others. Whether you believe it or not we are in the last days. So the first and most inportant thing is where do you have Jesus Christ in your life. Then we can get on with our fight against the anti-American, anti-God, anti-freedom, anti-everything idiots that are trying to rob us.

    • Angel Wannabe

      Tom , yes we’ve been in the end times for a long time now.

  • btamxx

    Dave at MA and all. Regarding Clintons agreement with the UN about gun regulation, it should be known by all, that treaties made by the President override the Constitution. Check it out. It’s true.

    • Dan az

      An especially interesting piece of evidence supporting the conclusion that the Treaty Clause was intended and understood by the Framing and Ratifying Conventions not to authorize the President and Senate, by a treaty, either (a) to override the Constitution, in whole or in part, or (b) to make domestic law (as distinguished from governance of relations with foreign governments), was provided by a statement by Jefferson–presumably reflecting at the time the prevailing opinion among governmental leaders also and especially leaders in Congress–in his 1801 A Manual of Parliamentary Practice. It was written by him as Vice President, while serving as the presiding officer of the Senate. It was reprinted in many editions in the following generations, being incorporated in full in the “Manual” of the Senate and in the “Manual” of the House of Representatives (as to the part applicable to the particular body in each case). Use of his Manual to some extent continues at the present writing. In this guide, Jefferson stated with regard to the Treaty Clause and power:

  • Dan az

    The Constitution is supreme over laws and treaties; it expressly states (Article VI, Section 2) that: “This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in Pursuance thereof; and all Treaties made, or which shall be made, under the Authority of the United States, shall be the supreme Law of the Land . . .” This means that any such Law (Act of Congress) which violates the Constitution is automatically made null and void to start with–nullified by the Constitution itself–and therefore cannot be a part of the “supreme Law of the Land.” This is also true as to treaties.

  • Dan az

    Executive Agreements with foreign governments made by the President alone are, at the minimum, as limited as treaties insofar as concerns the President’s power to enter into them being limited by the Constitution; that is, any such agreement must be in strict conformity to the Constitution in order to be valid. The previously quoted statement by Hamilton, in The Federalist number 33, about the supremacy of the Constitution over any Federal law being implied, even if it had not been made express in the Constitution, is as applicable to Executive Agreements as it is to treaties. If they had had occasion to express themselves on the topic, The Framers and Adopters would unquestionably have stressed the strict limits under the Constitution upon any such power of the President alone, even more than with regard to treaties–as to which they required approval by the Senate. The grave danger inherent in allowing any single official, specifically the President, to have the sole power to make international agreements was discussed by Hamilton in The Federalist number 75. He stated, with regard to the power to make treaties: “. . . it would be utterly unsafe and improper to entrust that power to an elective magistrate of four years duration.” After discussing in detail the weaknesses of human nature in government and the danger of excessive power to deal with foreign governments being given to one man occupying the Presidency,

  • Dan az

    See even a dummy can provide the facts! night all!

  • http://N/A Bulls Eye

    Walmart onley joined the club with freinds and neighbors surveilence. How many times have you called your credit card co. , representives office , call about a product , anything .. The onley time you can get a live person on the line you first must agree to let them record the conversation for clearity or educational purposes. That has been going on for some time now.You have been put on record. nothing new…Bulls Eye

    • http://?? Joe H.

      Bulls Eye,
      Actually they announce that to assure that you KNOW you are being recorded as in most states if they don’t let you know you are being recorded it won’t stand up in court!!

  • Grandma Patriot

    I won’t be ratting on my neighbors, friends or anyone else. The people in this country better wake up because we are on the fast track to being a Communist country. George Soros is behind the ruination of our Republic.

  • hundabuxt

    The devil is behind the “ruination” of our republic. Soros, liberals, queers and many other preverse groups and people are just the instruments of the movement. We’ve lost our moral compass. Unbridled greed is the God of America now.

  • Carol

    SORRY FOR THE CAPS, HARD TIME SEEING. PERSONALLY I VIEW EVERYONE IN WASHINGTON THAT IS SLIPPING THE SCREWS TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE, WHO ARE PASSING BILLS RIGHT AND LEFT WITH ALL THEIR SECRET MEETINGS, WHO ARE TAKING OUR RIGHTS AWAY, IMPOSING RIDICULOUS THINGS, ARE THE TERRORISTS !

  • Kate8

    I hope some of you will check this one out. I’ll try to post it tomorrow, but I’m really swamped with work right now.

    Some really scary info:

    http://www.newswithviews.com/Hodges/dave105.htm

  • Dan az

    Kate
    I have been waiting to here how you knew that for two days know please tell me how you knew?

  • ganny may

    Reply To: Dan Az

    I’m one ahead of you guy! Like “Grandma Patriot”, this “Granny May” is not asleep. Yep, I already know I am considered a terrorist. It is those folks who are too busy living life from day to day that are the ones that don’t realize Big Brother is out to get them. They have had it too good too long and have their heads in the sand. “It will never happen in America”. Sound familiar? Don’t forget Granny May is retired and watches conservative News 24/7. If you are American, caucasion and especially elderly, that qualifies you as a gun toting, free wheeling, say what you think old F_r_ that speaks her mind and thus she is the worst kind of terrorist, too old to be brainwashed AND don’t forget, unproductive (forgetting this old “F” gave almost 60 years of her life supporting those ahead of her who were already collecting Social Security, and of course the government too when congress chose to raid the S.S. funds as if it were its’ petty cash. Strange those IOU’s were never paid back and no one is mentioning it. Our motto, take no Crap off of anyone! (Gee, thank God my grandkids actually know me for the nice granny I truly am.) I’ve lived during times of true freedom and intend to fight for it as long as I can take a breath and I am fully aware that in “TARP” there was mention of places for the elderly to die with dignity. This government has no use or place for the elderly in future plans. Well, I will die with dignity when my God decides, not when some wannaby Dictator who thinks he is God decides. This “Granny May” remembers that skinny little mustashed, black headed ugly dude that made people click their heels and say those two horrible words “Heil Hitler” which in my book meant “To Hell Hitler”. And I suspect the one who said during his candidacy for Presidency “I am the one you have been waiting for”, has quite possibly realized by now that the people have begun to wake up and have decided differently as he is experiencing quite a bit of resistence at present. This govt. has made a lot of folks very unhappy. We don’t like eating what ever Big Brother/Sister tries to shove down our throats.

    Did you ever see the play “Arsnic and Old Lace” It just goes to show that all old folks are not push overs. We know what they have in mind for us. Germany was a wake up call but we won’t go quite so easily. Let them watch me, I’m watching back. Incidentally, there is a lot being said on this site that I agree with wholehartedly. Do any of you guys ever voice your thoughts to the ones that make the decisions in Washington? If you don’t, try it sometime. That is where I spend the bulk of my time. One letter or e-mail is equivalent to 10 people writing. We need more letters to our representatives/senators letting them know they work for us, not the other way around. We can’t let up, our biggest job lies ahead of us. REPEAL OBAMA CARE, STOP THE SPENDING AND GET RID OF THIS COMMUNIST GOVERNMENT. By the way that includes K. Harry and Q. Nancy as well as our fearless leader who bows to any king but the true one.

    WE MUST LET THEM KNOW WE ARE AWAKE AND WATCHING THEM TOO AND IF WE WANT TO BE FELT OR FONDLED, WE WILL CHOOSE WHO DOES IT AND WHEN! Gotta hand it to you guys, you’ve got the picture down pat, now write/call/twitter, etc, someone who really can do something about this massive governmental power grab.

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