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Spiking Obamacare

March 31, 2012 by  

Ben Crystal

is a 1993 graduate of Davidson College and has burned the better part of the last two decades getting over the damage done by modern-day higher education. He now lives in Savannah, Ga., where he has hosted an award-winning radio talk show and been featured as a political analyst for television. Currently a principal at Saltymoss Productions—a media company specializing in concept television and campaign production, speechwriting and media strategy—Ben has written numerous articles on the subjects of municipal authoritarianism, the economic fallacy of sin taxes and analyses of congressional abuses of power.

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  • DocVenture

    Jane Fonda playing Nancy Reagan is like Adolph Hitler playing Mother Theresa! What a load of crap. Fonda is the most anti-American piece of crap ever to hit the silver screen!

    • http://folkartist.wordpress.com Libertytrain

      Doc – now you’ve done it. They’ll have her playing Mother Teresa next – Poor Mother Teresa – Poor Nancy Reagan – what an unbelievable insult.

      • Tom W.

        You are sooo right LT!!! Call ‘em like ya see ‘em!

      • eddie47d

        How about G Bush playing Gandhi or Cheney playing Pope Paul ? Now that would be one heck of a theatrical act to pull off.

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100003309707389 Tom W.

        I just want to say that it is time to go get ready for the battle of the bluegrass, U of L vs u of k, GO CARDS!!! We’re fittin’ to turn New Orleans into Lou Orleans when we send those poor ole’ true blue uk kiity-cats packin’ back to Lexington wit dar lil’ bobbed tail tucked between dar lags on our way to our third national championship!!! Yahhhh Hoooo!!!
        But on a more serious note, I’d like to wish each and every one, the fine folks at PLA, the contributors, and ALL the posters, yes even you flushy, you liberal, commie, leftist, COWS belonging, Michelle Obama fantasizing, pinko f@g, hell someone even said ya had the hots for Hill!!! You mo man dan me! But anyway, this is what makes this the greatest country that has EVER existed, we’re able to throw our thoughts out there on the table and not fear reprisal from either our government or fellow Americans! We are the Great Melting Pot and everyone who comes to this country should come for one reason and one reason only! To be a part of this Great Experiement known as America! To be Free!!! I just want to wish everyone a BLESSED Holy Week!!! He stands at the Door and knocks, won’t you let Him in?! Happy Resurrection Day!!!

        http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=N5ddoyfn6g4

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100003309707389 Tom W.

        Oh well, stick a fork in us, were done till next year! Thank you Louisville Cardinals for a great 2011-2012 basketball season! Maybe all the way next year?!!

      • Joe H

        Libertytrain,
        Well, there’s one movie you can bet money on I won’t be watching!!! I haven’t watched one of her movies since I went to RVN!! That woman(?) is SCUM!!! Her husband owns the Atlanta Falcons so I would not watch them play or root for them!!!

      • http://folkartist.wordpress.com Libertytrain

        Joe – ex-husband, he dumped her for younger women a while back.

      • http://naver samurai

        If you all want to know what Justice Scalia thinks about Obama bin Laden Care, just look at this.

        http://www.dailycaller.com/2012/03/27/justice-scalia-to-obamas-solicitor-general-were-not-stupid/

        I guess this is why Obama bin Laden Care will flop in the SCOTUS. His buget bill was defeated 414-0? That’s about the biggest loss in history in Washington, isn’t it? Good. Let’s get the Community Organizer of the United States out of office. I looked up things and maybe we could issue a vote of no confidence with Harry “Woody Allen” Reid and have him booted from his position as head of the majority party? If we could, this would be great. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

    • Tom W.

      Great anology Doc!!! I thought I made the first post but you and about a half a dozen others beat me fair and square!!! You just gotta LOVE Ben! I haven’t gotten this fired up on Sat. morn since I was a kid with a bag full of fresh warm chocolate eclaires sittin’ down in front of the tube for the weekly cartoon blitz!!! They were workin’ on us even back then!

      • FreedomFighter

        Bucket List for 2012

        HERE IS ALL I WANT

        Obama: Gone!
        Borders: Closed!
        Congress: Obey its own laws
        Language: English only
        Culture: Constitution, and the Bill of Rights!
        Drug Free: Mandatory Drug Screening before Welfare!
        NO freebies to: Non-Citizens!
        We the people are coming!

        Source: Email author unknown

        Laus Deo
        Semper Fi

      • Tom W.

        Pretty much says it all FF!!!

      • Vigilant

        Recession is when your neighbor loses his job.

        Depression is when you lose your job.

        Recovery is when Obama loses his job

      • Warrior

        Jack Welch was on CNBC this morning and was talking about the upcoming election. He said, “In 2008, Obama was a great candidate and suspect President.”. Why is he a suspect President? The rule of law. Obama finds laws to be impediments. Instead of working with the law, like a bull in a china shop, he just runs through it.

        Time and time again, his administration has run roughshod over precedent and law. Believers in Obama look the other way. Liberals hated Bush and felt he tore up the Constitution. Obama is worse.

        * The Auto Bailout, bond holders and creditors were crushed as the administration skirted years of bankruptcy law
        * On voter ID, Eric Holder ruled against state law that required ID. Of course, I can’t walk into a high rise in Chicago without it.
        * In Libya, the President marshaled military force without even talking to Congress about it.
        * Obama passed Obamacare, which will hopefully be declared unconstitutional. Obamacare takes away basic human rights from individuals. Witness the sea of waivers the administration has granted to special interests in the wake of its passage.
        * On illegal aliens, Obama selectively enforces the border. He told Arizona Senator John Kyl, “that there would be no securing of the border until Congress agreed to immigration reform inclusive of amnesty for the approximate 45,000,000 illegal aliens in this country.”. That’s not rule of law, it is Chicago machine politics.
        * On birth control mandates, the government is compelling private organizations to violate their beliefs. If the government can compel a private individual to do something you support, it certainly can compel you to do something you don’t support.

        Welch was correct. What this election comes down to is the rule of law. Do you want an over reaching and totally empowered executive branch of government deciding for you? The expansion of power of the executive branch in the last ten years has been unchecked. We are swiftly drifting to a centrally planned state economy where the government controls our health care, housing, and energy.

        That has to end. Now.

      • http://naver samurai

        Ha, ha, ha, ha! Well said Vigilant. I needed the laugh. BTW, here is a source telling us that there will be freeloaders on Obama bin Laden Care. What the heck else is new? The wasting of our tax dollars at work.

        http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/administration-admits-court-under-obamacare-select-group-can-get-health-care-not-pay-for-it

        Why is it always the lib, gay loving, baby killing, marxists that always want to give things for free, when these things are against our founding principles of self reliance, personal responsibility, and the vigilance to ensure that government remains our servants and not our masters? I guess they’ll be getting educated in November when Obama bin Laden loses big time. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

    • mgunns

      Remember the way to hurt this dirt bag is to not see the movie, so I encourage all to stay home and watch a really good quality movie or something that will give you a good feeling. I detest this women in the worst possible terms and I will not pay to watch her do anything!!!!

    • Commiefornia

      Just because Jane Fonda will play Nancy Reagan doesn’t mean people will pay money to see her over the top melodramatic acting…

    • http://None Patsy Davis

      Personally, I think that Jane Fonda would be a wonderful actress to play the part of Nancy Reagan. Both of them are activitists. Only Nancy isn’t as public as Jane is, but nonetheless, I think Jane Fonda is a fine selection for the part.

      • http://aol bob robbins

        Patsy u r a real patsy; I am old and poor but I would not got to see HANOI JANE IF U PAID ME $1000.00. Anybody that would is a traitor to this country.

      • Michael J.

        Patsy Davis,
        If Hank were still alive, he would not be fonda Jane.

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100003309707389 Tom W.

        Hey Patsy, you ain’t Ron and Nancy’s wild hippie chick daughter are ya?!

      • http://google gary gerke

        You are clueless when it comes to political facts from the past…get a life!!!!!!!!

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100003309707389 Tom W.

        It was a joke dunba$$!!!

      • http://naver samurai

        The woman is a traitor, but it had to be a lib that pardoned her on all charges. Why do libs like traitors so much? FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

      • John Wilch (TSgt, USAF Ret.)

        Patsy, Patsy, the 58,000+ names on the BLACK GRANITE WALL are weepping because of your actions. That B…h si not fit to play a noble woman like Mrs. Regan let alone be in the same room.

        I served in Vietnam from June 1968 to June 1969 with the 1st Cavalry Division (AM) as a Helicopter Doorgunner and when I got home my folks asked me if I know what HANOI JANE had done and when they told me I immediately throw my copy of ‘Babarailla” in the trash and I have not watch any thing that B…h appeared in.

        Oh, when that movie comes to a theater near me you’ll find me along with my felloow vets excersizing our First Ammendment Righst by standing in front of the theater with our signs that say: “HANOI JANE, WE WILL NEVER FORGET!” and when people ask we will tell them what she did.

      • Joe H

        John Wilche,
        1st Aviation Bgd, 70-71 Crewchief/doorgunner on slicks.

        • John Wilch (TSgt, USAF Ret.)

          Welcome home, Bro. I was on Hooks flew out of Bear Car.

    • http://none A.R weldon

      Hey DOC, boy you sure hit the nail on the head, what a disgrace to the human race. That scumbag isn’t worth the space i’m using here .I pray no one will to see this tasteless piece of crap

    • http://.janefonder Airborne

      Why is our country stooping so low as to let trash like Hanoi jane to portray such an Honorable,and Noble person.It is a disgrace to God, our Troops and country,like a spit in the eye.Of course jane Fonda could play Nancy’s shoes better yet jane would better portray Benedict Arnold she knows betrayal,treachery,treason and loyalty to the enemy.

      • Ray Davies

        Welcome Home Guys, I too had a copy of Barbraella and Cat Baloo. Gone in the trash. I can’t forgive or forget her for what she did just like I can’t forgive or forget the other celebs who made money being against the war. Yeah, the war might have been wrong, but we were asked by OUR COUNTRY to fight,and we did,With honor. (19th Recon 1963-4) May God watch over our brothers whodidn’t make it home and may He save a place in hell for Hanoi Jane.

        • John Wilch (TSgt, USAF Ret.)

          Welcome home, Bro! I served as a Door Gunner with A Co. 228th Avn. Bn, 1st Cavalry Division (AM). I also trashed my copy of ‘Barbraella’ and have never watched any thing that HANOI JANE was in again.

          When Spike Lee’s movie is released I and several of my friends with be exercising our First Ammendment Rights by picketing the theatre. Our signs will be printed with the saying “HANOI JANE, WE WILL NEVER FOREGET!” and problely have other saying (nothing profain).

          GOD BLESS THE US OF A and MAY SHE REIGN FOREVER.

    • dagodave

      That is the one of the worst things I have heard this year -she should not be allowed to play Nancy Reagon.That treasonist b—h should be in jail with the whole obamma group of treasonist b——s! Iwill personally boycott her movie if it is done and I’m sure the legionares will do the same!

    • Loumar

      Jane was never “anti-american”. Her protest against an unjust “war” likely saved thousand of American lives by shortening the “conflict”. The only losses suffered by her protests were the profits to be earned by Halliburton, Carlyle Group, Rockefellers, Bush, . . .

      • http://naver samurai

        Why are you telling lie like that on this site? Remember seeing her on television taunting our POWs over there? Just another troll. How much are you paid for saying crap like that? Just another sheeple, baaaaa! Baaaaa! Baaaaa! FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

      • John Wilch (TSgt, USAF Ret.)

        Oh, come off it, Loumar, the NVA and NV government were about to surrender because they realized that they were not up to fighting against a foe that was relentless in its procecution of the war against them. If it wasn’t for people like HANOI JANE and her Commie loving b…..ds and the poor dope-smoking kids that were duped they would have.

        Oh, you forgot about the POWs that the NVA Communist B…..ds tortured after she handed them the SS# and names of the POWS.

        I for one will never forget those men that suffered because of her actions.

      • michael

        You like all liberal are so stupid you don’t know a dam thing of what you’re talking about. She didn’t save lives she caused many GI to lose their life. I agree it was a total waste of good GI live to fight that stupid war. But you must remember one thing, like it or not, our boys were there, wanting to be there or not. They died for what ever stupid reason. RIGHT OR WRONG, when our boys are there fighting, we must at all cost, back them up. Being proud of them They didn’t want being there any more then we wanted them there. BUT THEY WERE THERE, So we back them up showing them we are dam proud of them. Michael

  • Tom W.

    WOW!!! Am I first?!! Good mornin’ everybody! GO CARDS!!! I’ll bet the pages of Nancy Pelosi’s copy of ‘Rules’ are stuck together! LOL!!! Ben that was a GOOD one! So was that photo of O and the Russian president, PRICELESS!!!

  • Sirian

    With the ever present possibility of the Democrats losing their wonderful all encompassing creation via the Supreme Court – ObummerCare – they scurry off into their usual defensive corners of finely tuned CYA!!!
    Pelosiaurus – One of the most highly intelligent dinosaurs to ever grace the halls of Congress. COWS, I NEED MORE COWS!!! (psst, give me another beer Fred!!)
    Obummer’s budget shot to hell – 414 to 0. You talk about a March Madness score beyond all belief – oh yeah, forgot, it’s the standard Democrats CYA season in disguise.
    Obummers hidden desire to have had a son that looked like that – DUMBO? Well, you know, that “natural look”. Yep, the spitting image of daddy. If he wants one that bad they could pick up a new model through Affirmative Action or Planned Parenthood, can’t ever tell. They do have quite a selection available.
    Booby Rush – in grand grey hoodie regalia rushes the mic on the House floor, blabbers all over himself and the podium which leads to his being directly rushed off to the NSA’s new hoodie looney bin in Utah leaving a beaming trail of Skittles all the way.
    OBUMMER – 0, RUSSIA/CHINA – 2. Without the slightest offering of vodka & eggrolls
    Vacation, spring break, Vacation, late spring break, Vacation – are we having fun yet? Vacation fun spots include parrot training courses for free – REDISTRIBUTE THE WEALTH!! REDISTRIBUTE THE WEALTH!! REDISTRIBUTE THE WEALTH!! TAX THE WEALTHY!! TAX THE WEALTHY!! TAX THE WEALTHY!!! – sponsored by the Unions, Soros and many other fine contributors.
    Hanoi Jane – Age 71, IQ 71, Number of shrinks needed 71, possible crosshairs 71!!

    • Tom W.

      Yo Sirian! Quit it man!!! This OG can’t take it anymore! My ribs are hurtin’!!! Jane Fonda, I’m truly surprized that her and Ted Turner’s marrage ended without any casualties!!! Talk about a couple of nut-jobs! LOL!!!

      • Joe H

        Tom W.,
        shows you how much I keep track of Hanoi Jane, I thought she was still married to Turner!! give him one “thumbs up” for finally getting wise!!!

    • T i m

      I do not understand …WHY MUST THE SUPREME COURT get involved in , ” LISTENING ” to …..”arguments ”’ , from BOTH sides , for or against …something that is right or wrong …….WHY CAN NOT 9 ” extremely educated people ” , OUR nations TOP LAWYERS , ….NOT agree on what is right or wrong . ……. The only reason for the health care reform , is to make sure no one misses a paycheck , since over 1 5 % of AMERICA IS UNEMPLOYED . ……………………………. The welfare population is soaking health care , AND SOCIAL SECURITY IS PAYING FOR IT . …………WHY IS THIS SO DIFFICULT .

      • eddie47d

        You should be asking yourself why was health care so expensive before and without the Affordable Healthcare Act? Why were private health care companies allowed to raise rates while paying their executives premium salaries? Why were consumers of these private policies dropped off of these companies rolls? Why were they denied coverage while extreme bonuses were paid out to the corporates who controlled the companies? Why did private stockholders come first while the patients were gouged into poverty? There is something wrong with a system where a $1,000 investment gained you $50,000 in profits while the patient went broke.I hope those investors enjoyed their wild profits because it came from the backs of injured or sick folks. Do you really think the CEO of United Healthcare deserved that $1billion 400 million severance and retirement package? We don’t have to look very far to know where the cost of medical care comes from and it mostly falls on the shoulders of those in control of these private companies. Buy our policies and we will suck you dry and if you don’t buy our policy good luck in living. Better buy a cheap funeral plan it might be a better deal.

      • mgunns

        Remember what Kagan said( a male pit bull with lipstick) that the money to fund this POS will be supplied by boat loads of money to the states, I haven’t figured out who’s boats or who’s money but I suppect; we the tax payers will buy the boats and fill them with money, of course with the Fed printing money like there was no end to the ink, I guess its just a simple matter of print baby print.

      • Tom W.

        T i m, you’re touched! I like ya, but you,re touched!!! Maybe she was talkin’ ’bout some of dem Pelosi bucks mgunns! How does a person’s personal fortune QUINDRUPLE while serving as SOTH?!! Bernie’s in prison isn’t he?!

      • Sirian

        Tim, Tim, Tim. . . calm down, take a deep breath, quite pulling on that hang-nail. Have you had your Cheerios yet? Now then, refer to page 1741, sec. b, paragraph 8 of the ObummerCare bill and you will be astonished at what you find. As a back reference to that point of interest pertaining to this you may also refer to page1264, sec.c, paragraph 4. That will explain in a more robust manner as to what led up to the initial reference that was mentioned first. These are purely based on the decisive ruling on the Gloom &Doomer vs. Reality case of 1948. Between these two highly important segments of the entire bill, plus the previous case cited as a historical baseline, it should reveal and provide a much more clearer understanding as to the true nature and direction of intent that has been initiated and implemented. From this is the primary reason it has drawn an enormous amount of counter actions. At this juncture, it solely depends upon what form of persuasive BS can be tossed out and believed in. These two are but examples of the number of misleading and cleverly entitled directives which enable it to allow a grander personification of this in it’s entirety. From this point forward it may be best that you retreat from yourself, stop tapping your foot and realize that today is a day to have fun – jokingly. I swear, if you can’t understand that then move back to square one and start all over – but don’t forget to your Snickers bar. . . :)

      • Vigilant

        T i m, I certainly hope you reconsider your statement. If you believe the Supreme Court is in business to make determinations of right and wrong, then you have entered into the fantasy world of liberal thinking.

        The Supreme Court was not established to decide legal issues on the subjective basis of morality, or “right and wrong.” Their charter is simple: to render judgments based on the Constitutionality of the law or case in question.

        Activist judges who render judgments based on personal or public views of an issue, or who rely on international laws or protocols, have violated their oaths to preserve, protect and defend the Constitution.

        It is the liberal justices on the SCOTUS (Kagan, Sotomayor, Bader Ginsburg and Breyer) who regularly violate their oath of office by deciding cases on the merits of their own views of how things should be, not whether the Constitution allows it.

        eddie’s post is typical of the liberal response. It is not about what’s wrong or “unfair,” it’s not about whether a CEO gets cushy bonuses or retirement packages, or the price of tea. It’s about the rule of law and the Constitution. If liberals don’t like what’s happening, work to change the laws (But make sure it conforms with the Constitution).

      • http://corporationsarepeople.blogspot.com/ Peter Calvet

        Eddie you’re confusing the yahoos on the site with too much common sense. Keep it up and their heads will explode. People are quick to jump on the anti-Obummacare bandwagon with all the slogans and funny stories (unless a disaster happens to a family member) and what are we left with? More Insurance execs making boatloads of money at our expense, and people being denied coverage because they had a rash in college. If these folks don’t like the President’s fix then let them propose a fix it or are they happy with rates doubling every few years? Talk about bigger deficits.

        Here are the main opponents of Obama’s solutions:

        Romney – just make more money,

        Santorum – just pray harder

        Gingrich – let poor kids scrub toilets and deny illegals, and finally,

        Ron Paul, the ultimate Liberty candidate, let them die in the street, or maybe a nun might feel sorry for you and take you to the convent. The Sisters of Mercy will heal you with their prayers.

        After listening to these clowns, no wonder Obama sounds like a genius. But you guys (you know who you are) just keep cracking jokes and one day, God forbid, you will find yourself in a hospital bed, wondering what went so terribly wrong. And maybe, just maybe you might think that the Obummercare you made such fun of was’nt such a bad idea.

        Nice for people who can afford it to make fun of “spreading the wealth” but for the rest of us, stuck in situations where we have to decide between selling the house or saving your wife or kid, it might not be so funny after all.

      • Sirian

        Vigilante,
        HA, don’t count on it – Tim actually reconsider? That’s why I conjured up pages and such just to send him off on a wild goose chase. Who knows, he may very well be trying to find the “Gloom&Doomer vs. Reality case. . . LOL!!! He made it quite clear in the very first line of his response – “I do not understand”. The rest of his spatial response laying blame here and there clarified the rest. Which raises another question – does he actually want to understand? So, with that I simply couldn’t resist the temptation to have some fun playing with him. What you stated – “to render judgements based on the Constitutionality of the law or case in question.” is exactly what their job is and anyone with a lick of common sense should know this. Obviously, to many don’t. That’s why it’s fun to play with them now and then. Take note of the time of my post and see if there has been any response by Tim. Not that I can see. Does that not tell quite a tale?? :)

      • gnafu

        If you think health care is expensive now, wait until you see what it costs when it’s free! – P.J. O’Rourke

      • http://gravatar.com/hattles JeffH

        Again eddie’s post is like a piece of poor quality swiss cheese…full of holes.

        $1.4 billion what? UA Healthcare was formed in the summer of 2010 when University Medical Center Corp. joined with University Physicians Healthcare.

        Hospital Review – April 20, 2011 – UA Healthcare interim CEO Kevin Burns received a severance package worth approximately $1.7 million when he vacated his position last week, according to a report by the Arizona Daily Star. Mr. Burns’ contract specified that he qualified for two years’ base pay and benefits when he left his position. According to the report, his annual base pay as interim CEO totaled $620,000. Burns was CEO of University Medical Center Corp.

      • eddie47d

        Well if it Isn’t “Honest” Jeff who loves to accuse other of lying but never tells a whopper or two himself. Chuckle! That 1.4 billion is correct. The pension was 1.1 billion with a 300 million golden parachute thrown in. Another CEO with United Healthcare Wm Mcquire received a $286 million payout. In 2011 poor little ol CEO Cordani only got a messily $15 million for 1 year. The profits for UH last year were $4.6 billion. Wow more bonuses for the Elites while the patients get stuck with the bills. By the way I belonged to United Healthcare for several years and they were formed in 1977.

      • Joe H

        Peter Calvet,
        Please show me a site that is an actual recording of Ron Paul saying that or I’m calling it what it is, A BALD FACE LIE!!!

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100003309707389 Tom W.

        Hey Peter I got your yahoo! So you think eddie is another Einstein do ya? Your IQ must have a desimal point in front of it!!! Hey Sirian and Vig, take it easy on ole’ T i m, That wasn’t nice sendin’ him after the level bubbles! After all, he is one of us, I think! Give ‘em hell Jeff and Joe, did y’all hear this cat?! He called eddie intellegent!!! The only heads I’ve seen exploding here lately are the Dems who relentlessly pushed the healthcare bill down or throat but are now saying that they knew it was doomed to fail now that they see that it probably will! Let’s pray that it’s toast!!! For you Peter, get out the pop corn;

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SSRU8OL2Vj4

      • http://naver samurai

        Peter is a troll, so just ignore him. Ed is still spinning things. Who cares about the money Ed, it is the Constitution that we are worried about. We have insurance on the whole family, except our son in the army (Sook Young, 3 kids, and I), and we can afford it. I know that Sook Young and I, counting my pension, make around $135,000 a year and insurance is no problem. If people would only shop around, they may find payments that they can make without busting their budgets.

        http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2012/03/28/toobin_hard_to_imagine_how_things_could_be_going_worse_for_obama_administration.html

        This is how you want our country Ed? I thought you were smarter than that. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

    • Warrior

      Did you know that booby rush was one of the founders of the “black panthers”. Did you know that booby rush defeated “gumpy in chief” in an election? Did you know that I live in the district represented by booby rush? Did you know that gerrymandering keeps this loser in public office? I have got to get out of this cesspool called Illinois. Help me Clarence, I want to live again!

      • Sirian

        Warrior,
        Oh yes, I know about the one and only Booby Rush. I was around back in the sixties when that crass racist and his all powerful racially bigoted group were seen quite often on the tube. But hell, so many people don’t know one thing about his background and more than likely wouldn’t really care. No wonder there is plenty of gerrymandering going on. By all means, if at all possible, get out of that, as you put it, “cesspool”. You’re openly welcome here in Oklahoma. . . :)

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100003309707389 Tom W.

        When someone in government extends a helping hand, you don’t leave that hand empty now do you?! That is the Chicago way! Blago is an example of what happens when you bite that hand!!! I can picture you as a cowboy Sirian! An Okie huh?! Sing it Merle…

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eoiJSDgoDjQ

  • Joanne Cartor

    Love ‘Ya !! PLease never stop . You make my day ..

    • Tom W.

      Does kinda pump ya up, huh Joanne?!!

  • eddie47d

    Anyone who says nuclear disarmament isn’t a nobel goal is an enemy of civilization. The more weapons we have (or Russia) the more other nations want them to defend themselves against Russian or American aggression. Russia use to be the most aggressive nation on the planet spreading it’s military into every corner of the world. Now we have become the top dog in spending ourselves into oblivion for real estate property (military bases) around the globe. The Russian economy collasped years ago from expansionism yet when ours collasped we didn’t see the writing on the wall and expanded our military adventurism further. You won’t tame the desire of 3rd world nations wanting to have nukes to defend themselves while the super powers hang all of theirs over the heads of those countries. Nuclear disarmament should be in continuous negotiation where no nation is left out of the equation.

    • John Wilch (TSgt, USAF Ret.)

      Eddie47d, oh, sure getting rid of the nucs should be a priority but we can’t just get rid of ours and expect others to do the same, THEY WON’T. If we do we must follow what good old Ronnie said, “Trust but varify.”

      While O is doing his damness to get rid of our main line of defense, what do you think China or even Russia is doing? Laughing at us because we are weakening ourselves to a point where they can walk in without firing a shot.

      Oh, I forgot O and C are trying to take our weapons away from us. You know our rifles and shotguns that we hunt with, our handguns that we (some of us) use to defend our homes with so that we can not defend ourselves agains those that want to harm or steal from us.

      No thank you, I’ll keep mine so that I can keep on defending what I think is right and to also keep living up to the oath I took on December 20, 1963 and that is to defend the Constitution against all enemies foreign and domestic.

  • James G.Choate

    Ben, When real patriots stand up and demonstrate like the liberals do, the country will start going back to the greatest in the world. A good place to start would be at the theater where Hanoi Janes movie is playing.

    • Tom W.

      A GREAT place to start it would be on the Mall in DC James!!! What Glenn Beck did was awesome, but if WE THE PEOPLE were to ever REALLY come together in DC, why it would blow their socks off!!! I’ll bet Michelle would take the girls and fly off to Tim Buck Two or wherever just to get away from the riff-raff! Snooty ho!!!

  • http://mozilla Robert E. Lee

    Obam the Imam and his carefully thought out assault on Americanism;;1.] become President knowing you are a foreign national,2.] appointing his own czars [shadow government, 3.] make those czars all communist sympathizers, 4.] use executive orders to demean congress, 5.] regulate energy to control everyone’s lives,6.] control healthcare to regulate everyone’s death, 7.] apologize for Americas ‘evil [he thinks] on the world stage,8.] Racially divide citizens as well as establish class envy [warfare],9.] allow the desecration of America’s symbols of independence ; American Eagle, Flag, use of the word God, etc.,10.] establish Islam in America. These incidents and actions are not by error.

    • David Lyons

      AMEN!

    • Tom W.

      Following the rule book play by play! And the Pied Piper piped right off towards the water’s edge with the faithful lemmings marching right along in lock-step, jack boots and all!!!

      • http://corporationsarepeople.blogspot.com/ Peter Calvet

        Obam the Imam? Where do you get that?

        Top ten places where you might have got that from:

        1. On a fortune cookie
        2. On a novelty tee-shirt
        3. On a sex toy
        4. Sprayed on a wall
        5. Tattooed on Rush Limbaugh’s butt
        6. Embroidered on Clarence Thomas’s underwear.
        7. Engraved on Dick Cheney’s pace maker
        8. Finger painted on Bin Laden’s youngest wife.
        9. On a refrigerator magnetic at Opryland.
        10. Hand held sign at Michigan State football game.

        Not terribly funny? Neither is dying due to people making fun of healthcare reform.

      • vieteravet

        Peter, is that your real name. It doesn’t matter anyway, you’re a Dick! Obamacare is anti-constitutional. Illegals can go back to were ever they came from, we don’t need to provide any assistance to them. They are “ILLEGAL” ‘nough said!

      • http://gravatar.com/hattles JeffH

        Peter Calvet…don’t be so sensitive…where’s your sense of humor anyway?

      • Joe H

        PETER! Mexico HAS government sponsored healthcare!!!! Let those illegal Mexicans go home for their healthcare!!!! Wake the hell up!!!

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100003309707389 Tom W.

        Yeah you imbesile, wake the hell up!!! What can you expect from someone who considers eddie a mental heavy weight! I thought a couple of your “top 10″ list there were hilarious!!! Especially the one about Rush’s tattoo! LOL!!!

      • http://naver samurai

        Quit being an idiot Peter! We both know that people die even with adequate health care coverage, so what’s your point? My wife Sook Young has been a nurse for years and can tell the same thing I just did. BTW, Elkhart General Hospital has cut personnel due to money shortages. Nurses were the first ones targeted to be cut. Since Sook Young has many years in nursing, she survived the cuts. They cut those with far less time in the profession, just like unions do. Right Ed? FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

    • Armyblue

      In a few short words, you’ve nailed this fake living in the White House.

    • http://corporationsarepeople.blogspot.com/ Peter Calvet

      Very funny.

      When you’re in a hospital bed wondering what happens next you might not think life is so amusing. Are you 14? Or do just act like a 14 year year old?

      • Joe H

        Peter,
        I’m 61 years old and never had that worry. If I was indeed truly sick, I would go to the ER like most of the ones that are complaining do for a cold! I have had insurance most of my life as I WORKED for it. I have not, as you say, gone bankrupt. I now have very good insurance through my wifes job, while we pay the difference between just hers and the both of us. Now I know WORK is a four letter word to most of you libbie progs, but you really should try it, it feels good!!!

      • Dennis48e

        Peter Calvet sure sounds a lot like ole flashy.

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100003309707389 Tom W.

        Ya think so Dennis?! He is awfully whiney and sounds like there’s nothing he likes better than hearing himself bloviate!!!! By golly, ya know ya might have him nailed Dennis! Good job man!!!

      • http://naver samurai

        The same could be said about you Peter. The personal attack. Classic liberal strategy. No facts or sources, attack them to throw them off track. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

      • GiveAwayJimmie

        Peter,

        You are a very confused—if you believe the 2,700 pages of obamacare is going to make your medical life better. I hope you are younger than 60—because you will be evaluated –based on analgorithm that is not going to be friendly to long life.

        Have a great day.

  • thunderstruckagain

    The greatest insult to the American public is the Republican House Speaker who’s name shall remain unspoken.. who has in his power to call for investigations against this president and in not doing so is he himself liabel for treason and anyone else who stands with this president in the dissection of our Constitution.

    • old hillbilly

      AMEN TO THAT. OBUMINSTEAD is spending trillions because the houswe diodn’t STOP IT! We have OLD GUARD SENATORS WHO NEED TO BE GONE TOO

    • Tom W.

      Excellent point tsa!!! I wondered many a time, how is this man getting a free pass if these things he is doing are so unconstitutional?! It’s just a prime example that we’re not fighting just one party, we’re fighting the whole damn swamp!!! I pray you wore your snake boots!

    • John Wilch (TSgt, USAF Ret.)

      The Speaker of House could call for an investigation all he wanted but there are too many Obummer worshipers in the House and Senate to allow it to go further. So why do so, lets just work to get the COOTUS out of our house. We need to do so, so we can start on the road to recovery.

  • Hey You

    While a;; this smoke screens are interesting, 2012 electron may bring overwhelming challenges. It’s probable that Obama may win in re-election this fall, but the emphasis needs to be on liberty oriented people taking control of Congress.

    That could put a halt to collectivist trends.

    • Tom W.

      Well said Hey You!!!

  • Bob Rice

    I cant believe a VIETNAM VET,(im one proud Vietnam Vet) hasnt put a bullet right between HANOI JANES eyes. what a SCUM BAG.it really takes balls to go to HANOI and run an anti-aircraft gun,during time of war, she should have been put in a MANS PRISON,so they would have someone to play with….

    • Deerinwater

      Enough of that kind of talk.

      She was misguided and used perhaps while her intentions were noble.

      She wanted the madness to stop as did more Americans as time went on.

      I was back at base camp when I heard of in events in Ohio and wondered if the world wasn’t going completely mad. These students could not see or understand why we mounted a drive into Cambodia. It was just widening the war to them while Nixon had promised to end it. They too were misguided and paid a dear price for it, but I don’t harbor this hatred that you display for them.

      In returning and when they spit on me and called me a baby killer, I still refused to hated them. It was crazy times. I was a soldier honoring a commitment, not a statesman, not an attorney, there was no conflict of purpose or questions of morality in my mine.

      But this war did need to stop. It needed an end. An end that would not have happened without outside pressures from students and people like Jane Fond, willing to move outside their comfort zone,willingly and forcefully protest the establishment and anything and anyone that resisted their efforts including myself.

      The politicians would not allow us to win this war, mounting pressure to find closure was the only option left to end it. Every soldier that fought knew we could have concluded this war with a military victory, in spite of Russian and Communist back door support. But it was not meant to be as the Paris Peace Accords waged on and statesmen argued over the “shape of the conference table”.

      This “ending of the war” became a plank in Nixon’s campaign platform with his promise. A promise that he kept but not without orchestrated pressure, suffering and great cost to many.

      • Tom W.

        Deer, we’ve had our well documented disputes but every now and then we see eye to eye, how can that be?!! I too had a brother who served in Vietnam, He was in the special forces in the area of Play Cu in 1970. The brother who returned wasn’t and STILL isn’t the brother who left! I found that out his first morning home when my mother told me to go wake my brother for breakfast, I ran in the bedroom and pounced on my sleeping brother and found myself pinned to the wall by the throat and about to lose some teeth!!! You are so right Deer, that was a different time and in the words of CSN&Y, “Nobody’s right if everybody’s wrong.” Excellent post Deer, you brought a tear to my eye! This song is for you!

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wUUYlztf064

      • Gary Geesman

        Good to see that at least one person on this site can produce a reasoned, logical argument. Thanks, Gary

      • Deerinwater

        Thanks for the song Tom. I never play that song while I do love it so.

        Every time I hear it, I’m washed over with a flood of mixed emotions of both sight and sound so strong I can smell the decay of jungle wet and intensely sweltering still heat.

        I wouldn’t take for the experience but wouldn’t pass it off on my worst enemy.

        Good to hear your brother made it home, while the change in each of us varies, it’s inevitable. To be turned into a killing machine with a hair trigger and then be “out of work” is a occupational hazard to overcome. The road back is longer for some then others.

        The civilian world is crazy and makes little sense~ for a long time.

      • jdangiel

        There are noble motives and noble actions driven by the noble motives. You don’t hate anyone? Great! Much healthier psychologically for you. I laud your service to your country. I agree the times were crazy. I can see where the war needed to end. However, Hanoi Jane sold out our heroes, and caused the ones in the Hanoi Hilton to be subjected to a lot more torture. Plus, as a private American citizen, she had absolutely NO BUSINESS consorting with the enemy behind her government’s back. She is not noble. Her motives were to undermine her country. Being a Nam vet makes you a hero, but it doesn’t, in this case, make you right. Sorry, man. I salute you, but she can go to hell.

      • Karolyn

        Thanks, Deer. My ex-husband was there but never talked about it. He actually became a hippie after his return in ’68 (after being introduced to pot over there).

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100003309707389 Tom W.

        That was some good sh!t, from what I’ve been told Karlolyn! Look at LBJ, he grew his hair long and became a hermit on his ranch in Texas after he left office Karlolyn, someone probably smuggled him back some of that ‘Nam Black!!! You know why he slept on his stomach Karlolyn?…. So Ladybird wouldn’t get his worm!!! LOL! I know, it’s so stupid it’s funny!

      • Joe H

        Yeah, deer, she was used!!! BULL$HIT!!! PERHAPS YOU DIDN’T SEE THE FILMS OF HER TAUNTING THE POWs! I DID!! SHE IS SCUM AND DESERVES ANYTHING BAD THAT HAPPENS TO HER!! She tried a few years ago to disrupt aA Gathering of Eagles in DC till she found out it was DEFENDED by a very large contingent of Viet Nam Vets that swore she and her pig followers would NOT pass! She turned tail and left!!

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100003309707389 Tom W.

        Ill bet she did Joe, I’ll bet she did!!!

      • http://butI'mtolei Smilee

        Deer

        Thanks for showing us real character, too bad it run off Joe like water off a ducks back but then he lacks any character. My thanks and admiration to you.

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100003309707389 Tom W.

        Hey Smilee, whacho smokin’?!! Dude… Ha Ha, Ha Ha Ha… Whooo… Headrush!!!

      • http://naver samurai

        I agree with you Joe H. My father and uncle, both career men, were in Vietnam and even got a taste of combat during the Tet Offensive. They didn’t like Jane Fonda either. To this day if you mention her name to them, they get angry and tell you not to mention her name in their house again. She is still a traitor and had to be pardoned by a lib. A traitor then and traitors now. I guess birds of a feather do flock together. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

  • Vic Bailey, Auburn, GA

    May Jane Fonda rot in HELL, along with this Socialist Regime, and the Socialist in our Congress, Jane’s pals! Semper Fi.

    • JohnC

      May she rot in hell along with all the liberals who seek to destroy this country, It is time to take back our country

      • Tom W.

        Ditto and ditto!!!

    • S.C. Murf

      From a Screaming Eagle in Nam 68, 69, 70, jane fonda is a traitor who got at least one POW beat to death and herself should have been put in front of a military firing squad. It is indeed Bull$hit that she is allowed to still influence anyone and lead a normal life

      up the hill
      airborne

      • John Wilch (TSgt, USAF Ret.)

        Welcome home, Bro! Served with the First Cavalry Division (AM) flying out of Bear Cat as a Doorgunner from June 1968 to June 1969 and i got home I was spit on but the punk that did it I knocked his lights out.

        As for HANOI JANE playing Mrs Regan, a Noble and Patriotic woman, its a discrace. I won’t go see it when it comes to a theatre near me, I’ll be there with several buddies exercising our first Amendment Rights. Our signs will say “HANOI JANE, WE WILL NOT FORGET!”

    • nc

      Vic, why am I not surprised that you are from A-U-B-U-R-N, Georgia! So was my drill instructor. Until now the dumbest man I ever met!!

      • Joe H

        give it up, NO CAHONES!!

      • http://naver samurai

        Actually, you would be the less intelligent one here no cajones. Remember, that dumb drill instructor had to train you, because you were to stupid to know how to fight or survive the battlefield. So who is the stupid one now? FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

  • Lost in Detroit

    Thank you Ben Crystal for a spot on video and Sirian for a great post. These are some scary times we live in, very similar to the Cold War (let’s all practice getting under our desks) except this time it is home grown. I’m hanging on the edge to see how things come out in June and then the biggie in November. I did buy some fireworks and I had better have something to celebrate!

    • Tom W.

      Dear LiD, you are so right, these are perilous times that we are living in! The only thing you can do to protect yourself from what I and other Bible believing Christians believe is coming is to make absolutely, positively sure that you’re covered in the BLOOD of the LAMB!!! HE IS COMING AGAIN, BE READY! R U ready LiD? If not you may pray this prayer;
      Lord, I believe that Jesus is the Son of God. I believe that He came and died to pay the penalty for the sins that I have committed. I ask You to forgive me, and to give me the gift of eternal life You promised. Come into my life, and cause me to be born again. Amen.
      If you prayed that prayer and meant it with your entire heart, know that He did come into your heart and now you’re ready for whatever this ole’ world has to throw at ya!!! Hallelujah!

      “This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come. For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good, Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasure more than lovers of God; Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.” – II Tim. 3:1-5

      LiD, I challange you to find a better description of the human race today ANYWHERE!!!

  • JohnC

    We need to take control of the house and senate with true patriots and with people who will uphold the constitution, everyone elected takes an oath to protect and defend the constitution of the united states…yet when they get to Washington its protect and defend the lobbyists who will give me money…liars, thieves, criminals,and crooks the whole bunch what we need to do is have a third party …and make the republicans and democrats irrelevant. those who will not represent us its time for them to go. We the people take back our government.

    • Tom W.

      John, we need more leaders like Ron Paul’s son Rand, I have VERY high hopes for him! Along with the likes of Jason Chaffetz and Mike Lee of Utah, Marco (I pray he don’t accept Mitt’s offer!) Rubio and Allen West (Who’d really like to take Debbie Wasserman Shultz out to the wood shed! Please forgive me for sounding sexist!) of FL, SD’s Kristi Noem and others are among a fine bumper crop of young conservative up and comers! Let’s pray God to send some more!!! With more fine young leaders such as these, I have hope! I pray that none of these folks drink the tap water in DC, because there’s something in the air or water there that would corrupt Mother Teresa!!! Let’s pray that they’ve got bottled water and that IT isn’t in the air!

      • nc

        Tom, you speak of a “bumper crop of young conservatives” but as I read the post of you and your “Conservatives” friends none of the past Republican Presidents qualified as “true conservatives” even though they called themselves “conservatives” Have we ever had a truly conservative President?

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100003309707389 Tom W.

        Seeins the conservitive movement argubly got started with Barry Goldwater, Ronnie Raygun was and still is their poster child. I don’t think that I would call him a true conservitive, his Trickle Down Economics had some flaws and I wouldn’t define it as true conservitism. So to answer your question, no!

  • Howard

    Well Done!!!! Pelosi, the wicked witch of the west. Was there an Obama ancestor in the wood pile at the Fonda seniors house? I do pray that the Court does the right thing.

    WARNING!! That alien Muslim has long tentacles.

  • General “Bull” Krapper

    Looks like Hanoi Jane still aiming her guns at the enemy. TREASONOUS, LIBERAL, SOCIALIST SCUMBAG!!!! — Guaranteed if it weren’t for her father she’d have been tried & convicted. — VOTE FOR AMERICA & TURN NOVEMBER INTO NO-BAMA — Stay Well/Stay Safe/Stay Free

    • Tom W.

      SIC ‘EM BULL!!!

      • Tom W.

        FORGIVE ME GENERAL BULL SIR!!!

  • LOYD “KEITH” THRASHER

    i’M A GRADUATE OF THE CITADEL, THE MILITARY SCHOOL OF SC. HANOI JANE WAS NOT ALLOWED ON THE CITADEL CAMPUS EVEN THOUGH TWO OF TED TURNER’S SONS GRADUATED FROM THE CITADEL. THE CITADEL LOST TOO MANY MEN IN VIETNAM TO LET JANE PARTICIPATE OR EVEN BE ON CAMPUS.

    I’M 70 YUEARS OLD AND GRADUATED FROM THE CITADEL IN 1964 AND HAD MEMBERS ON MY COMPANY KILLED IN VIETNAM; BUT I HAVEN’T FORGIVEN LIBERAL JANE FOR ENDORSING THE IMPRISONMENT OF OUR BRAVE MILTIARY IN THE HANOI HILTON. SHE SHOULD HAVE BEEN INVITED TO SPEND A WEEK IN THAT FINE HOTEL..

    THE B….. HAS NEVER HAD ANY LOYALTY TO THE USA AND AND SHOULD HAVE BEEN TRIED FOR TREASON OR DEPORTED TO NORTH VIETNAM.

    NOW SHE IS TREATED AS A GRAND OLD LADY IN “HOLLYWOOD (ALSO KNOWN AS THE LIBERAL CAPITAL OF THE NATION) AND I THINK IT IS A SHAME. IT IS AMAZNG HOW MORAL (STUPID)THE OVERPAID ACTORS BECOME WHEN WE FORK OVER MILLIONS OF DOLLARS THAT FLOW INTO THEIR POCKETS.

    SORRY I COULD NEVER FORGIVE HER FOR WHAT SHE DID VISITING HANOI AND SPREADING THE RUMOR OUR PRISONERS OF WAR WERE TREATED JUSTLY AND FAIRLY WHILE IMPRISONED.

    A MEMBER OF THE CLASS OF 1964 IN WHICH WE BELIEVE IN HONOR, DUTY AND COUNTRY AND WERE WELLING TO DIE, IF NECESSARY TO PROTECT OUR FREEDOM

    • Wyatt

      Well stated LKT , I lost my twin brother to a VC ambush . Never can I forgive Jane Fonda her actions and I even now avoid her films like the plague . Many people call her misguided along with the rest of the student protesters of the day . Perhaps they were I do not know . But I do know that the vast majority were simply avoiding the draft by being at collage . I returned from my first tour in time for the Kent State incident and was visiting my old campus (not Kent State) and listened to many of the students and their views . Among them was a guy who I will refer to as being a professional student . He was there when I went there and was still there when I came back to visit my sister who was in her final year . Had I not left school and enlisted to follow my brother I would have been as misguided as them .

      That politics kept us from winning that war is on the liberals who actually started the whole damn mess for us in the first place . Thanks to Richard Nixon we got out of a bad situation when we did . And while he may have been or had some guilt in the affair that caused him to resign , I have no doubt that it was blown up beyond all proportions by the left . People will note that as a statesman , Presidents who followed , from whichever party , sought his advice on foreign policy especially when dealing with the communists . This is something Hollywood and all their over paid and over priced stars willfully ignore . The vast majority are simply no talent pretty faces intent on keeping their names in the paper .

    • Tom W.

      I salute you sir! You must forgive her Keith, God will Judge, and I don’t think it’ll be long!!!

      “For if ye forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you: But if ye forgive not men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses.” Matt. 6:14&15 (KJV)

      Jane claimed to have accepted Jesus as her personal Lord and Savior a few years back and that was the main reason for her and Ted’s split. He said he couldn’t live with a Christian b!#@h!!! (There’s rumors that Ted is the man behind the Georgia Guidestones! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ojyBTAuv8Uc) If she did then I hate to tell ya this Keith, but she’ll be present at that Great Meeting in the sky, but if she posin’, she’ll be one of the self-righteous who hear the sad demand to;

      “Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles? Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit. A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit. Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire. Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them. Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.” – Matt. 7:15-23 (KJV)

      What do her fruits tell you Keith?!!

  • JC

    A TRAITOR IS ABOUT TO BE HONORED.

    KEEP THIS MOVING ACROSS AMERICA

    This is for all the kids born in the 70′s and after who do not remember, and didn’t have to bear the burden that our fathers, mothers and older brothers and sisters had to bear.

    Jane Fonda is being honored as one of the ’100 Women of the Century.’

    BARBARA WALTERS WRITES:

    Unfortunately, many have forgotten and still countless others have never known how Ms.Fonda betrayed not only the idea of our country, but specific men who served and sacrificed during the Vietnam War.

    The first part of this is from an F-4E pilot.

    The pilot’s name is Jerry Driscoll, a River Rat.

    In 1968, the former Commandant of the USAF Survival School was a POW in Ho Lo Prison the ‘ Hanoi Hilton.’

    Dragged from a stinking cesspit of a cell, cleaned, fed, and dressed in clean PJ’s, he was ordered to describe for a visiting American ‘Peace Activist’ the ‘lenient and humane treatment’ he’d received.

    He spat at Ms. Fonda, was clubbed, and was dragged away. During the subsequent beating, he fell forward on to the camp Commandant ‘s feet, which sent that officer berserk.

    In 1978, the Air Force Colonel still suffered from double vision (which permanently ended his flying career) from the Commandant’s frenzied application of a wooden baton.

    From 1963-65, Col. Larry Carrigan was in the 47FW/DO (F-4E’s). He spent 6 years in the ‘Hanoi Hilton’…the first three of which his family only knew he was ‘missing in action’. His wife lived on faith that he was still alive. His group, too, got the cleaned-up, fed and clothed routine in preparation for a ‘peace delegation’ visit.

    They, however, had time and devised a plan to get word to the world that they were alive and still survived. Each man secreted a tiny piece of paper, with his Social Security Number on it, in the palm of his hand. When paraded before Ms. Fonda and a cameraman, she walked the line, shaking each man’s hand and asking little encouraging snippets like: ‘Aren’t you sorry you bombed babies?’ and ‘Are you grateful for the humane treatment from your benevolent captors?’ Believing this HAD to be an act, they each palmed her their sliver of paper. >

    She took them all without missing a beat.. At the end of the line and once the camera stopped rolling, to the shocked disbelief of the POWs, she turned to the officer in charge and handed him all the little pieces of paper…

    Three men died from the subsequent beatings. Colonel Carrigan was almost number four but he survived, which is the only reason we know of her actions that day.

    I was a civilian economic development advisor in Vietnam , and was captured by the NorthVietnamese communists in South Vietnam in 1968, and held prisoner for over 5 years.

    I spent 27 months in solitary confinement; one year in a cage in Cambodia ; and one year in a ‘black box’ in Hanoi . My North Vietnamese captors deliberately poisoned and murdered a female missionary, a nurse in a leprosarium in Banme Thuot , South Vietnam , whom I buried in the jungle near the Cambodian border. At one time, I weighed only about 90 lbs. (My normal weight is 170 lbs)

    We were Jane Fonda’s ‘war criminals….’

    When Jane Fonda was in Hanoi , I was asked by the camp communist political officer if I would be willing to meet with her. I said yes, for I wanted to tell her about the real treatment we POWs received… And how different it was from the treatment purported by the NorthVietnamese, and parroted by her as ‘humane and lenient.’

    Because of this, I spent three days on a rocky floor on my knees, with my arms outstretched with a large steel weight placed on my hands, and beaten with a bamboo cane.

    I had the opportunity to meet with Jane Fondasoon after I was released. I asked her if she would be willing to debate me on TV. She never did answer me.

    These first-hand experiences do not exemplify someone who should be honored as part of ’100 Years of Great Women.’ Lest we forget….’ 100 Years of Great Women’ should never include a traitor whose hands are covered with the blood of so many patriots.

    There are few things I have strong visceral reactions to, but Hanoi Jane’s participation in blatant treason, is one of them. Please take the time to forward to as many people as you possibly can.. It will eventually end up on her computer and she needs to know that we will never forget.

    RONALD D. SAMPSON, CMSgt,

    USAF 716 Maintenance Squadron,

    Chief of Maintenance DSN: 875-6431 COMM: 883-6343

    PLEASE HELP BY SENDING THIS TO EVERYONE IN YOUR ADDRESS BOOK. IF ENOUGH PEOPLE SEE THIS MAYBE HER STATUS WILL CHANGE.
    How can our country forgive this woman?
    THANKS- GARY DAMEN
    I served three tours in Vietnam and heard this vile woman on the radio many times spewing her hatred on the American Forces.
    She is a sorry human being.
    Charles Higginbotham
    USN Retired.

    • Deerinwater

      Well, Sir thanks for your service and we can surly understand your animosity toward Jane Fonda. ~ She had no way of knowing your struggle and hardships in the hands of your captors, how ruthless that you and you buddies were treated and the attempt to break your spirits if it mean destroying you, solely for propaganda purposes. How hard is was to stay united, sane, loyal to your country, fellow soldiers and “alive” while dying much easier.

      They used her against you, it’s documented. I understand you anger. You deserve your anger, it’s this anger that kept you alive to tell “your” story.

      It was 25 years later before I had any remote interest in seeing any films or footage pertaining to the war. Not sure exactly why. I blocked it out. I still avoid VFW halls.

    • eddie47d

      Enemy combatants who are captured are never loved by those who jail them. Yes Americans “want to” do horrible things to those they capture also. We treated captured Germans brought to the US very well. The difference is that we TRY and be more civilized about it. Although Abu Ghraib showed us we can also look the other way at times. No matter who does it the images can sear the mind in the barbery of what is done to POW’s. Torture does nothing good for any nation and the damage is never repaired.

    • Chris

      Mr. Charles Higginbotham,

      Thank you for your service!
      God bless.

    • Tom W.

      First of all, let me say thanks for an excellent post JC!!! That story put a lump in my throat! I salute CMSgt Ronald D. Sampson, what an awesome account of a side of the story our MSM had deemed unnessasary to report! Your service and sacrifice shall NEVER be forgotten sir! Thank you!!!
      If his story is true, she should’ve rightfully been shot as a traitor! And speaking of being shot as a traitor, what if Alex Jones and Jessi Ventura are right and our own government orchestrated the 9/11 atrosity as say a Reistag moment?!! Should not those responsible be punished accordingly?! What if what AJ and JV are spewing is nothing more than anarchist propaganda, should they not be dealt with accordingly?!! I tend to believe the conspiracy therorists for the simple fact that if they were lying, they’d have already been silenced!!! They won’t even say Alex Jones’ name on FNC! Strange huh?! If he’s so wrong Mr. O’Reilly, have him on and debunk him with your superior mind!!! But I’d be careful dealing with Jessi, He’d kick your old a$$!

    • louie1

      I’ve sent your post to all in my address book. This so-called woman has no right walking on US soil, let alone profiting so richly from the fools who have paid to see her movies. I’ve only seen one of hers, “On Golden Pond”, but not to see her. I always greatly admired her father and Katherine Hepburn was another favorite of mine. I never understood why Henry Fonda didn’t disown that sorry excuse for a daughter. I hope Hollywood loses a bundle on the Nancy Reagan movie. Surely they could have found a real American to play the part. Of course, with few exceptions, they are not Americans. Thank you for a very touching, honest, first person witness post, JC.

      • JC

        That’s the idea Guys n Gals…
        Copy, paste, email…keep it moving. :)

  • Deerinwater

    You are getting better Ben, I kinda enjoyed that one without having to agree with you. A little fine tuning on the “canned” audience would be good. It’s a little over the top.

    • Tom W.

      Oh, go climb back in your puddle Queerinurin!!!

      • Joe H

        !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! OUCH! My SIDES ARE ACHING!!!!

      • http://naver samurai

        D’oh! :-) FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

  • old hillbilly

    Excellent stuff, as always… gives a person hope in knowing there are sane people who can see through the crap we’re drowning in, & have the guts to do something about it! We have a few real good tea party members in the House. Lots are good old boy mouthpieces who talk a good game, but betrayed America when they WERE IN CONTROL and could have stopped the illegal alien give-aways, looting of America’s manufacturing infrastructure, etc.

    We need good honest people to run against the anointed ones in both parties! Minimally get some independents stirring it up – don’t hear anything but same old SOS.

    • Tom W.

      Hey old hillbilly, don’t you get it? The only thing standing (And thank God we’re still standing!) in the way of the NWO vision are US!!! The United States of America, The world’s most free government. The NWO isn’t about freedom, it’s about enslavement!!! It’s of the elites, by the elites, and for the elites! That why they (Both domestic and foreign!) are trying to destroy the US dollar! Once the Greenback is replaced as the world’s standard currency, the rest will be easy… BAM, BAM. BAM!!! NATO soldiers! DO YOU HAVE ANY WEAPONS IN YOU HOME?!! OPEN THIS DOOR NOW! BAM. BAM, BAM!!!

  • jake

    having barrac obama would be a better choice to play nancy reagan than hanoi jane. im not fonda jane. can you tell? she should have been executed by nixon in ’72, then we would hold nixon in high esteem.

    • Deerinwater

      Nixon is already held in high regard without such an event. Nixon was one of the last powerful GOP statesmen of the old school, there has not been another since.

      • Tom W.

        Such HIGH regard Deer; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sh163n1lJ4M, let’s pray that there’s never another!!!

      • Deerinwater

        There will never be another Nixon. The mold was broken.

        Don’t judge him too harshly Tom, he was just a flawed man that fought and clawed his way to the top then sold his soul trying to stay there. He served during trying times, policy shift and a major change in direction that affected the whole world and not just America.

        If you haven’t yet, watch the Nixon-Frost debate. There is a great movie made of the event.

        and here is Nixon, live “at the moment”

        http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1t2uf_richard-nixon-interviewed-by-david_news

      • Joe H

        Deer,
        He was a lying sack of $hit!!!

    • eddie47d

      Why should Nixon be held in high esteem by anyone. The man that Nixon pardoned as a solid American killed 542 innocents . Shouldn’t Nixon and Lt Calley both have been executed for endorsing murder and for treasonous acts? You don’t have to be “fonda jane” but your heros Jake are worse traitors and far more disgusting.

    • Tom W.

      Not fonda jane huh jake?!! LOL!!!

    • Tom W.

      jake! Talk about puttin’ lipstick on a pig!!!

  • FreedomFighter

    Sheriff Arpaio: Obama’s Records Are Missing + Mike Zullo, Jerome Corsi Full Interviews.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zk5K6svnrI4&feature=uploademail

    Worth watching, as we all suspect…not …legal…to

    Laus Deo
    Semper Fi

    • louie1

      Just watched your link…..At first, I thought I wouldn’t be able to sit through it that long without taking breaks, but, it was mesmerizing and totally revealing. It’s a must see for all ‘birthers’ and those who make fun of us. It actually does a great job on those who deride us for doubting their Messiah and it’s our turn to heap the insults onto them. Thank you, FreedomFighter for giving us this link and it’s a must-see, to be sure!

  • J.M.

    They need to load Obama , His wife and Jane Fonda on a boat and give them a choice to whatever country they want , they just can’t come back here , no-one wants them. Don’t patronize this living communist’s ( Fonda ) movie , let her go home and excersize…Vote Obama out , that’s the only way freedom in this country will ever survive …

    • Warrior

      Let’s make it a bigger boat and load it up with 100 of those most detestable “progressive” congresscreatures to boot. Ok dingy, you’re now fully in charge of the “rabble”. Frickin losers.

  • Elconejo

    The media asked the devil to play an angel. I’m curious to hear how the Liberals will spin this famous and patriotic woman. I predict this film will flop.

    • Tom W.

      They don’t care Elconejo, they’re just trying to be cute!!! They’re just proving that they can do just about whatever they please as long as there’s no personal sacrifice involved!

  • J.M.

    Vote Obama out and run the communist Fonda out of the country…

    • Tom W.

      HERE, HERE!!! or is it HEAR, HEAR!!!

  • HKaufman

    Never ceases to amaze me how many keep bitchn about OBAMA this OBAMA that, GET OVER IT PEOPLE , enough is enough, where were your grade school playground RHETORIC when that TEXAS DIMWIT for 8 years caused the economy to CRASH.. OH but when someone brings this up all you couch potato’s dont want to hear about that, the Rhetoric turns to That was then this is now.. Get up off your couches and run if,,, you think you can do this job better, if not STOP,CEASE, with the disparaging comments. I AM TIRED OF THIS BILL CRYSTAL<BOB LIVINGSTONE, either give unbiased journalism or stop writing entirely.. I am sure every one does not want to be known as ignorant white cracker trailer trash talking Carbon monoxide commando's…… Give me one REPUBLICAN where HAPPY DAYS ARE HERE AGAIN for AMERICA….

    • Tom W.

      Hey J.M., any more room on that boat?!!

      • Tom W.

        Better get the net!!!

      • Warrior

        I think nan will have fight on her hands for first mate. Ahoy, and set sail, the boat for utopia is leaving.

    • jdangiel

      This might make you feel better – ok everyone, repeat after me:
      It’s bush’s fault, it’s for the children!
      It’s bush’s fault, it’s for the children!
      It’s bush’s fault, it’s for the children!
      It’s bush’s fault, it’s for the children!
      It’s bush’s fault, it’s for the children!
      It’s bush’s fault, it’s for the children!
      It’s bush’s fault, it’s for the children!
      It’s bush’s fault, it’s for the children!
      It’s bush’s fault, it’s for the children!

      • Warrior

        er, I think you forgot a chorus of Cheney!

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100003309707389 Tom W.

        Here’s one you’ll love Warrior!!! If you haven’t seen it already;

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dl0V_2kZzNA

    • louie1

      You’d do well to watch the link FreedomFighter submitted –

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zk5K6svnrI4&feature=uploademail

      Then see how much your man’s halo is quickly tarnishing. Sheriff Joe’s revealing investigative report, as of today, Shows without a doubt, that your boy is phony to the core and deserves hanging.

    • http://naver samurai

      I see that we are still on kool aid. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

  • ranger hall

    JC,? What were you doing in CAMBODIA, And im sure if you were in a bamboo cage it Had to be Worst than the HH.
    JC can you tell me why the Govt had to change the Code of Conduct,During and after the Vietnam conflict. Glad you made it home.

  • ranger hall

    You know it always amazes me WE blame the ones that wanted the war to stop, But we dont seem to blame the ones that started it and the ones that allowed it to go on for 15 years.
    guess we should also blame all the ones that would like to see the AFGANISTAN and IRAQ WAR Stopped. Ok and are you going to stop the next ONE, or just blame the ones that object.
    And Vietnam sucked, The Politicians Sucked, The Military Commanders above the rank of COL. sucked, The Corporations that profited from it sucks.
    No i still believe that we could not have won.but some people stay brainwashed there hole lives.

    • Tom W.

      ranger, I totally agree that we really need to be sure of what we’re fighting for when we put our American Treasure in harm’s way, and I know that we’ve been on the wrong side in some conflicts, but you CAN NOT make peace with someone who wants to kill you! Our brave men and women don’t ask about the politics, they just go! Just like the brave first responders ran into those smoking buildings on that beautiful September morning in 2001, they just went! God rest they’re souls!!!

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AW8puRqE4Sc

      • Tom W.
      • Tom W.

        Please excuse me while I’m gettin’ my country on! What’d ya say TOBY?!!

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ruNrdmjcNTc&ob=av2n

        What’d ya say Lee?!!

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q65KZIqay4E&feature=related

        Does anyone know the story of why the bald eagle was selected as our national bird? Well Benjamin Franklin, a Freemason, wanted to make the wild turkey (The ugliest bird on the face of the planet with the exception of the vulture!) our symbol, Thank God that Congress decided on the bald eagle, the only bird known not to be affraid to fly INTO a storm!!!
        Today has been a real melancholy day on this site and I’ve actually been brought to the point of tears more than once! WHAT WE ENJOY HERE IS THE MOST PRECIOUS GIFT THAT HUMANITY HAS EVER KNOWN, FREEDOM!!! AND IT IS WORTH FIGHTING FOR!

        “Democracies have serious drawbacks. They certainly are not better than they ought to be. But corruption can occur under any kind of government. And I think that every serious student of history will agree, upon consideration, that our Western democracies are not only the most prosperous societies in history – That is important, but not so very important – but the freest, the most tolerant, and the least repressive large societies of which we have historical knowledge… One must fight those who make so many young people unhappy by telling them we live in a terrible world, in a capitalist hell. The truth is we live in a wonderful world, in a beautiful world, and in an astonishingly free and open society. Of course it is fashionable, it is expected, and it is almost demanded from a Western intellectual to say the opposite.” – Karl Popper

  • chuckb

    jane fonda is white trash and a traitor to this country. the following is not to defend jane, however, i’ve heard these stories along with many others that are simply not true.

    rom NAM-POWs President Mike McGrath

    “I thought you needed to see a message that I sent to some folks who were establishing web pages with completely false stories which had been submitted to them as true stories. They agreed to stop after learning that they had received bogus information.

    NAM-POW names of: Jerry Driscoll, Larry Carrigan, and A.J. Myers have been connected, falsely, with the below stories. If any of you see these false stories passed around the net from group to group, please send a copy of this message to the sender and try to get this nonsense and slander of McCain, Driscoll, Carrigan, and A.J stopped.

    Thanks,
    Mike McGrath
    President of NAM-POWs

    (1) There is a bogus story floating around about Larry Carrigan, Jane Fonda, torture of POWs, death of POWs, strips of paper, notes given to Jane, etc. I just thought you should know that this is all bull crap propagated by someone for some unknown purpose….probably to bolster some hate against the traitorous witch.

    I’m not defending her, we all hate her as much as the next person, but you need to get your stories straight.

    Jerry Driscoll is my Secretary/Treasurer. I just talked to him. Same for A.J. Myers. They had nothing to do with the article attributed to them. They ask that we get their names off that bunch of crap. Tonight I talked with Larry Carrigan. He asked that we get his name off all that crap as well.

    He never left a room to talk to anyone like that. No torture or beatings to see Fonda. He was living with Bud Day, John McCain and a bunch of hard nosed resistors during the Fonda visit…lots of witnesses if you want to question him (or them). Larry was never near Jane.

    There were never any POWs killed on account of Jane. (Did anyone ever provide a name of one of these tortured fellows?)

    That story about the notes has a nice theatric touch, but no such thing ever happened. The only ones who met with Jane willingly, to my knowledge, were CDR Gene Wilber and LCOL Ed Miller. One NAM-POW was forced to go before the Fonda delegation. And I think that was only to sit at a table for a photo opportunity. I doubt he even got a chance to talk to her let alone slip her a note.

    To my knowledge, the worst that happened to the rest of us was that we had to listen to the camp radio (Radio Hanoi and Hanoi Hannah) with the Fonda propaganda. It pissed us off, but I doubt you can call that “torture.” So, if you get a chance to SHUT THIS STORY DOWN to the groups who are forwarding it, PLEASE DO SO. You can cut and paste this paragraph if you want to. Doubters can come to me if they need to.

    Mike McGrath,
    President of NAM-POWs
    POW 30 June 67 to 4 March 73

    Read more: http://www.military-money-matters.com/nam-pows.html#ixzz1qie2K7ak

    • Vigilant

      “There were never any POWs killed on account of Jane. (Did anyone ever provide a name of one of these tortured fellows?)”

      I don’t ever remember that being the question. The question was, “how many servicemen were killed as a result of a war lengthened by Cronkite and Fonda giving moral support to the enemy?”

  • ladybug

    http://www.petition2congress.c

    Go to this website and sign the petition to vet Obama and check into his eligibility to be president. Send this to everybody on your mailing list. Ask them to do the same. We need all the signatures we can get.

    Let’s make it the biggest flop of the year. They can remake Nancy’s story with someone else then.

  • Deerinwater

    Well, now that all of you have got your blood up and fangs drawn and beat the $hit out of Hanoi Jane, how about getting back on thread topic since you’ve done your duty and all.

    “Spiking Obamacare! ”

    If this happen, future Health Care in the USA will belong to the GOP. For better or worse.

    American citizens were being asked to be responsible for their health care needs and pay forward. ~ The GOP has claimed, government can not be allowed to tell me what to buy and how to spent me money!

    Yet, we are forced to buy auto insurance if you used the “collectives” road system and operate a vehicle.

    The fallacy on today’s Health Care system is that it is “Employer Based”

    The obvious “need for health care” has absolutely nothing to do with ” Employment”

    • Warrior

      Gee, I wonder what the reaction would have been if the gubmint tried to “mandate” the uninsured purchase insurance, period. No convoluted program of involving taxpayers, employers, unions and insurance companies. Afterall, mandates for car insurance don’t involve these other parties.

    • Vigilant

      “Yet, we are forced to buy auto insurance if you used the “collectives” road system and operate a vehicle.”

      Bob, that argument was discredited a long time ago and you should quit using it.

      They are apples and oranges, period. If you want to drive an automobile, you purchase it, take the tests, register and insure it. You have taken a positive action, i.e., moved off the dime and therefore undertaken to abide by the necessary rules to enjoy the privilege.

      If you don’t want health insurance, i.e, done nothing but sit on your rump, NO ONE has the right to force you to purchase something. As Justice Kennedy said, to do so would be to establish a completely new relationship between government and the individual which has not existed since the founding of the Republic.

      If you don’t believe me, hide and watch while the SCOTUS scuttles the individual mandate.

      • http://gravatar.com/hattles JeffH

        Vigilant…I’ll add that no one is “forced” to buy auto insurance either. Like you said, apples and oranges. Now brace yourself for a londwinded tale of lore from yesteryear.

      • eddie47d

        Stretching things again Jeff. You buy a car you HAVE TO buy insurance . (Mandated) If you don’t you can be denied driving privileges or lose everything you own.

    • Joe H

      Deer,
      One can choose not to drive and therefore not buy auto insurance! With Odumberer care, one HAS TO buy regardless! I have an older uncle that has been to the Dr. exactly seven times in his life! Why should he have to pay for odumberercare???

      • Deerinwater

        Well Joe, I always considered breathing as something everyone should try to do as well.

        As long a you can breath, personal health care or lack of it should be a major concern I would think.

      • http://naver samurai

        Personal health insurance should be paid by the person that has the policy and not by the taxpayers Deer. I see we have forgotten self reliance and personal responsibility. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

  • Pete Sagi

    Spiking Obamacare? Not hardly. The 9 learned orangutans have asked some pointed questions, sure enough … but they have not yet handed down their ruling, which will be in June, which I am sure will UPHOLD Obamacare, not spike it. They will make some noises publically about the commerce clause. Some conservative speakers will make other noises about how the commerce clause has been abused for quite some time, and, while that is true, clucking over the commerce clause will have zip point zip squat nada to do with why Obamacare will be found to be within Constitutional bounds. Civil Libertarians will squalk about how this is the end of the Bill of Rights, how it is communistic to force people to purchase health insurance, and others will argue that they force people to buy automobile insurance. Freedom lovers will say its wrong to have a mandate like that, and clearly it is unconstitutional, despite with the Supreme court says, to force people into buying health insurance. But they will all be off point … totally blindsided … because Obamacare was/is/will be TOTALLY VOLUNTARY.

    Huh? But what about the mandate and all that is being argued in front of the US Supreme Court????? Bottom line … nobody is taking about TO WHOM IT APPLIES, and it only applies to TAXPAYERS. How do I know this? Because enforcement of the Obamacare mandate will be via a penalty on a TAX FILING.

    “Taxpayer” is a specifically defined legal term, and not legally the same as tax payer. A “taxpayer” is someone who is subject to the jurisdiction/venue of US Title 26, the Internal Revenue Codes. No, that is NOT everybody. That only includes folk who engage in privileged activities taxable for revenue purposes. That would include non resident aliens with US Sourced income … i.e., here in the US for less than 180 days. It would include those who work for the federal govt. and/or federally owned corporate entities such as the US Post Office. But what about those people living and working in any of the now 50 united States, in the private sector, at occupations of common right? Aren’t they the subject of the income tax as well? The answer is some are and some are NOT. Those who ARE the subject of the income tax MAKE themselves the subject of the tax by THEIR PARTICIPATION IN SOCIAL SECURITY. Participation in socialistic insecurity makes you an “employee” and the subject of all manner of laws pertaining to “employment” such as minimum wage, maternity leave, equal opportunity “employment,” overtime regs, OSHA regs, etc. Use an SSN and you are, in effect, going thru the federal govt. as if it was a temp agency farming you out to your local private sector “employer.” Therein lies the taxable privilege.

    According to the Social Security Administration aka the slave enumeration bureau, “having and using a Social Security Number is not required to live OR WORK in the United States” … they will admit to that in writing, write them and ask, email or snail mail. Their website is ssa dot gov. If you are being forced into particpation in socialistic insecurity/use of a socialist slavestate number on the job, that is the policy of the company you work for AND NOT THE RESULT OF ANY LAW. Mainly, those policies are based upon ignorance and fear, although in larger corporations, there are people that make sure everyone goes along to get along. These are usually lawyers.

    Bottom line … Obamacare is totally voluntary because, by law, participation in Social Security is totally voluntary. It is simply structured now as part of a larger package, take it or leave it. That package includes Social Security, Medicare, and now Obamacare.

    Here is what you leave behind when you say no to this package … FICA, payroll tax, Medicare tax, federal income tax, state income tax, local income tax, and the Obamacare mandate/liability/penalty. Now is a great time to drop out of the system. Stop paying for your own enslavement. And stop buying what the media is telling you about Obamacare, the commerce clause, the Supreme Court, etc. It is as I have stated here … totally voluntary and contingent upon your use of a socialist slavestate number. About the only challenge that the US Supreme Court faces in making this ruling is to state what I just told you in obtuse enough language such that nobody gets it or at least very very few will get it. They don’t want to spill the beans.

    Bottom line … stop clucking about Obamacare. The real issue is socialistic insecurity and use of a socialist slavestate number. The remedy is to pass a law requiring full disclosure anytime anyone anywhere for any reason asks for an SSN.

    Pete

  • Earl, QUEENS, NY

    Let’s hope and pray that the SCOTUS will strike down all 2700 pages of Obummercare. However, if it upholds it, there are things we can do. In 2010, we voted out many of the Democraps in Congress who forced this (what we know is an unconstitutional) raw deal upon us. This year we have a chance to defeat many more of these leftists in the House and Senate. ….. Now, perhaps the most important thing we can do in this 2012 primary season is to defeat the candidate who is least likely to keep his pledge to repeal Obummercare. For those of you in Rio Linda, I’m talking about the RINO Mitt-nitwit Obam-ney. If he still defends a disaster AKA Romneycare which is nearly is bad as Obummercare, do you really trust him?? GET REAL!! There’s only one valid reason to vote for Mitt Obam-ney, and that is if (sic) he’s the nominee to challenge BHO. Pathetic!! Even John McCain would’ve been a better POTUS!! Who wants a RINO like Mitt Obamney??!!

    Furthermore, let’s also remember that we’ll never get rid of Obummercare if the democraps are voted back into power. All GOP Senators and House members voted against Obummercare 2 years ago. But because they were in the minority, they did not have enough seats/votes to stop its passage. Thus were it not for the foolish errors of voters who believed in the tooth fairy (that democraps would do a better job), there’d be no need to repeal Obamacare because it never would’ve passed in the first place!!

  • kantstanja

    Get rid of Obama and the Demoncrates ! ! Bring back the Repelacans, just like the olden days when Bush was king.. Don’t pay attention to that credit report.. The Pubs will take care of us all (just like in 2000 – 2008) GO PUBS!!

    • chuckb

      that would be a good move after seeing what those “democrates” have done to us since 2008. compare the two, the bolsheviks have gave us barrycare, un-emloyed half the nation, energy costs breaking all records, borders flooded by illegals from all over the world and they have turned the middle east over to the muslim brotherhood..still in afghanistan and losing iraq back to the brotherhood. barry and moochella taking two or three extravagant vacations a month on the taxpayers. barry using air force one as a taxi for his campaign tours, come to think about it maybe we don’t need a change,. things will be so bad the next four years the illegals may all go home. then we won’t need barrycare.

      • nc

        chuckb, with the stopping of the loss of 700,000 jobs a month we were having under bush,the correction of the collapse of the stock market we were having under bush, and with the ending of the wars that had become so unpopular under bush, can you imagine where we would be if Obama had inherited the gold mine bush was handed and blew???
        Do you know why the smart people on Wall Street have said for years that ” the stock market loves the Democrats’? Could it be the greater profits made while the Democrats control the economy??

        See ” Bulls, bears, donkeys and elephants” for the reason!!!

      • http://naver samurai

        Same old boo, eh no cajones? We’ve lost more jobs under Obama bin Laden than under Bush. Many jobs that may have been lost under Bush started around September 2008, so how do you figure that time frame we lost more jobs than during 3 1/2 years under Obama bin Laden? Care to cite a source? FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

  • chuckb

    pete s, sounds right to me.

  • FreedomFighter

    The true reasons liberals are so upset about Trayvon Martin shooting, it certainly is not because they care. Liberals are Using the tragic shooting to push more gun control…

    The NWO must disarm the American public to complete the takeover. Biden is an idiot tool of the NWO just like Obama.

    Biden Hints at More Guns Laws in Wake of Trayvon Martin Case

    http://www.infowars.com/biden-hints-at-more-guns-laws-in-wake-of-trayvon-martin-case/

    Laus Deo
    Semper Fi

    • Warrior

      There’s a simple remedy. Just place more taxes on guns. Taxes always solve the problem.

    • Joe H

      Freedom,
      Of course!!! The GUN killed the kid!! The guy just happened to be hanging on to it!! The government doesn’t ACT, they REact and usually OVERreact!!!

    • Palin16

      On the same day as the Travon Martin shooting, 15 black youths in Chicago were shot and killed by other blacks. Not a peep of it in the mainstream media.

      • http://naver samurai

        That’s because none of them were caucasian. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

  • andrew

    i can assure hollywood this is one movie i will not pay to see

    • eddie47d

      That is your American priviledge. To see or not to see.

  • http://personalliberty.com/2012/03/31/spiking-obamacare/ littlebill24

    don’t it seem funny that hollywood the news media standing behind and supporting tratetors of this this country like Obama,Pelosi,Romnney,Honioe Jane but refuse to back people that are try and telling what they are doing RON PAUL trying his best but the media and tratitors of keeps blocking him out and keep tell there lies

  • Ann in Nebraska

    OK. I confess. I am about half in love with Ben Crystal!!! He tells it like it is and I love a man (or anyone) who tells the truth!!!!! (My husband would be SO jealous if he knew. He’s also a truth-telling man and that’s why I love him so very much!!!!!) The Great Eight is one of the highlights of my whole week!!!!

    On a much more serious note, keep your powder dry. If Kagan goes blabbing her mouth to the White House about the outcome of the preliminary vote this past Friday, we could be in for some big-time trouble, folks. Keep your eyes and ears open. This has all the potential of getting real messy, really fast. We’re sitting on a powder keg as it is. I’ve never seen the citizenry so hateful toward each other. And, yes, I feel hateful is the right word. (The Liberals hate us because we’re right. They know it, and I think they’re just so frustrated they can’t stand it.) God save the U.S.A., and may God continue to bless all of us!!!!!

    • Karolyn

      I don’t know where you get these half-baked notions that “liberals hate conservatives.” Actually, from what I’ve seen, it’s the other way around. Any liberals I know don’t hate anybody and actually have more tolerance and love for more people (ie, gays) than conservatives. Conservatives are the ones I see writing about killing people, hatred and vengeance. You people just baffle me.

      • Palin16

        I don’t know what cave you’ve been hiding in, but all the liberals I’ve known or worked with were intolerant of anyone disagreeing with their socialist views. One example, a guy I worked with made the bold proclamation at work that “democrats were for the people’s rights, the republicans only care about big business.” I responded that democrats were also the party in favor of more and more increased taxation. This fellow then flew into a rage right in front of everyone else and got about an inch away from my face and screamed at the top oif his lungs “You know it’s f***ers like you that caused Katrina!!!”

      • http://naver samurai

        Palin 16, :-) :-)

        Karolyn, neeeeed to wake up and smell the coffee. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

    • Karolyn

      PS – Ann, you must have an awfully boring life if Ben Crystal is one of your highlights! :-)

      • FreedomFighter

        Hateful Hate Haters of the Left

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SgXjnHeFU44&feature=fvsr

        You may be missguided K.

        Laus Deo
        Semper Fi

      • Joe H

        Yeah, karolyn, I’m sure you don’t have Ben Crystal!!! Keep repeating that karolyn, maybe you’ll even convince yourself!!

      • http://PersonalLibertyNews David

        Unlike you right?Or is your tent being cleaned for the spring?Does mommy still do your laundry?Why this took so long is I have a job and don’t get to may e-mails till late some times,I too enjoy Ben’s comments that is the difference between libs and everyone else,everyone else can see the error in things without spewwing vile.vile spewwer.Victory Out.

      • Karolyn

        FF, You have to admit that what comes out of some peoples’ mouths is very hateful. You will never catch me or any of MY liberal friends spewing that kind of garbage. I also have a couple of conservative friends, and they are not as hateful as many commenters here. Is this just a special place for conservative haters? As far as the video goes, it’s fine for those who believe in the Bible; however, a great many use the Bible to create havoc like the men who abuse their wives and cite the Bible. My belief is that God hates nothing. Hate only creates more hate and ultimately chaos.

  • Bob W.

    If this movie with Jane Hanoi Fonda ever reaches movie theaters all the veterans and veteran organizaions should picket the theaters showing it.

    • Joe H

      Bob W,
      Hey, I’m up for it!!!

  • http://PersonalLibertyNews David

    Hey Ron how about standing up for Nancy,And spike lee what a load,also sharpton and all the msm,Thank You beret wearing mimes hahahaha I will use that I love you Ben,not in that way…Hahaha

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  • chuckb

    nc, as usual, you bolsheviks can’t get your history intact. you want to blame bush for the present economy. if you would be so kind to retrace history, go back to 2006 when the bolshevik party took charge of the house and senate, check the economy at that time, then check the economy in 2008 when barry took over. the presidency. the problem bush had, he didn’t know when to say no to the bolsheviks, he tried to be bi-oartisan. in essence bush was dead from that moment on,(2006). the bolsheviks destroyed the economy and when barry came in that was the finishing touch. no president in history has accumulated this much debt in the history of the country, now aren’t you proud your a bolshevik and voted for the worse president in our history.

  • John

    In protest of Jane Fonda being considered as one of the top 100 women of the century, this email reminds Americans of her controversial visit to North Vietnam during the war. It quotes a POW named Jerry Driscoll who was taken from his prison cell, cleaned and dressed for a visit with Fonda, then ordered to give Fonda a positive account of his treatment. He spit at Fonda and was beaten and dragged away. Then a group of POWs which included a Col. Larry Carrigan were brought out to visit with Fonda. According to the story, “…she walked the line, shaking each man’s hand and asking little encouraging snippets like: “Aren’t you sorry you bombed babies?” & “Are you grateful for the humane treatment from your benevolent captors?” Many of the POW’s were listed as missing in action so to identify themselves to American authorities, they each wrote their Social Security numbers on small pieces of paper and slipped them to Fonda as she greeted them. To their horror, however, after Fonda finished meeting them, she turned to the North Vietnamese commanding officer and handed him the POW’s pieces of paper. In the beatings that followed, three American POW’s died and Col. Carrigan nearly died. The email then ends with a statement about events in North Vietnam from an unnamed American POW. Our government needed to charge this piece of sh– for treason.

  • http://lastdaysgirl.wordpress.com Lastdaysgirl

    These people are deceived. It is so sad what has happened to America as the result of this President! And he is not even a born American – which is Un – Constitutional! The deceit of the DNC, Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid and Too Many others to name is overwhelming! I Pray that people just OPEN their EYES and that Our America Nightmare Ends in Peace. God Bless America! Peace Be Unto You All and God Bless! Jane.

    http://www.wasobamaborninkenya.com/

    • http://lastdaysgirl.wordpress.com Lastdaysgirl

      We Need a Real American In the White House!

      Mitt Romney is NOT that man! He shrugged a reporter in Minnisotta when asked about being the Key Adviser for Obama Care – and Walked aways without saying one word! That is NOT the man that I want!

      When Rick Santorum is Pushed in a corer with a question – He Appropriately Answers it and often strikes a nice conversation with them! That’s Who I Want as My President!

      As far as Obama? http://www.wasobamaborninkenya.com/ And that’s the Truth!

      Peace Be Unto You All and God Bless! Jane.

    • http://naver samurai

      Well said and keep up the good fight fellow patriot! FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

      P.S. I hope to see more of your posts.

      • http://lastdaysgirl.wordpress.com Jane Millar

        Samurai. Thank You for your words. I couldn’t agree more. Have a great Month!

        Peace Be Unto You and God Bless! Jane.

      • http://naver samurai

        Same to you and yours Jane. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

        Samurai and Sook Young

  • Palin16

    Has anyone seen the recent photo of Hillary talking about Rush? OMG that “woman” is one year older than me but looks 15 years older. What a scary picture, it’s not even Halloween yet. Maybe she should ask pelosi who her plastic surgeon is. Can’t blame poor ole Bill.

    • http://naver samurai

      Ha, ha, ha, ha! FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

    • http://lastdaysgirl.wordpress.com Jane Millar

      Palin16. No I haven’t. Sorry. But you got off the subject of Obama – So I have no idea of how to answer you.

      Peace Be Unto You and God Bless! Jane.

      • Palin16

        Ben Crystal’s column is kind of a mixed potpouri of political goings on. Seriously, Hillary looks ill.

      • http://naver samurai

        Couldn’t that just be her natural look after being married to Bill and going through his crap for many years? FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

  • nick beck

    boycott the sluts movie

    • John Wilch (TSgt, USAF Ret.)

      Nick, Better yet, let’s exercise our First Amendment Rights and protest out in front of it. Using signs that say something like “HANOI JANE, WE WILL NOT FORGET!”

      I served in ‘Nam with the 1st Cavalry Division (AM) from June 1969 to June 1969 as a Doorgunner. However, when I came home I was walking with a limp (still do) because I was injuried when I got hit in the back with a 55 gal drum.

      GOD BLESS THE US OF A and MAY SHE INDURE FOREVER!

  • Palin16

    Yes Michelle and daughters were on vacation (yet again!) here in Vegas. Didn’t she listen to Barrack when he told the nation “don’t go blow a bunch of cash in Vegas”? Malia and Sasha rode the rides on top of the Stratosphere…..after the Secret Service cleared everyone else out, of course. Ah, your tax dollars at work!

    • John Wilch (TSgt, USAF Ret.)

      The O’s are a bunch of hipocrits, I feel sorry for the girls because their roll models are such liars and cheats.

      GOD BLESS THE US OF A and HOPE SHE ENDURES FOREVER!

  • michael

    Just so there is no question about what the bitch, Jane Fonda did, here it is. She came to viet Nam and sat on a enemy tank calling our boys killers of women and children. First let me explain what went on over there. Women would come up to our GI and when they got real close they would bent over and had guns strapped to them and another women would fire the gun killing our Guys. Also little kids would run up to our GI with their arms raised up wanting to be picked up. Being our boys were loving and caring they would pick up these kids and when they did they would blow up killing everyone around. This is the crap we went through. When we found out Jane Fonda was coming to Viet Nam, many GI wrote notes to give to her, wanting her to give them to their wives back home letting them know they were alive. When she came to the prison emcampment Jane Fonda shook the GI hands getting the notes. When she was finished she gave all the notes to the viet cong leaders and when Jane left, 42 GI were shot and killed. HOW MUCH DO I HATE HER? GIVE ME A GUN AND I WOULD PUT A BULLET IN HER IN A SECOND. She should be tried as a traitor not a great lady. MY GOD they can’t be serious, Nancy doesn’t deserve to be played by that traitor. THAT IS AN INSULT to Nancy, America, and all the GI serving in our branchs of service DOWN WITH THAT BITCH >>>

    Michael

    • John Wilch (TSgt, USAF Ret.)

      Welcome home, Bro! As for shooting the B—h, don’t waste your ammo we may need it elsewhere and besides you’d in up in jail. We don’t need another Brother there.

      Just don’t go see the movie and tell all your friends not to go. Better yet, excersize for First Amendment Rights and protest out in front of the the theatre where its being shown with signs that say “HANOI JANE, WE WILL NOT FORGET!”

      GOD BLESS THE US OF A and MAY SHE REIGN FOREVER!

  • chuckb

    michael, not to defend jane fonda, there were no notes from the prisoners and 42 prisoners were not killed, these stories have bee floated around for a long time and are just not true.
    henry fonda belonged to the communist party when he was a young actor, so you know where jane got her politics from. the fonda’s are good actors, but poor americans. bolsheviks all.

  • Earl, QUEENS, NY

    The problem is that both BHO and Mitt Obamney are both guilty of identical unconstitutional raw deals. That’s why I find it frustrating that the GOP establishment and so many naïve primary voters would prefer this lemon Obamney – a RINO who may not keep his campaign pledge to repeal Obamacare. Again I must ask – how many Republicans are as guilty as Mitt Obamney???? Don’t forget – all GOP Senators and House members voted against Obummercare 2 years ago. But because of the foolish errors of voters in 2006 and 2008 (who believed in the tooth fairy – that democraps would do a better job and govern more conservatively – LOL!!), they were in the minority, and did not have enough seats/votes to stop its passage. On the other hand, as much as I loathe the RINO Mitt Obamney and the old nincompoop crackpot Ron ‘Wrong’ Paul, I agree with those who say the most important thing to do this year is to defeat the leftwing commie-in-chief who now resides in the White House. For now, I will continue to ask: Why ROMNEY?? By that, I mean: Why ‘Repeat Old Mistakes – Not Educated Yet’???? ….. However, once the primaries are over, I will say: Let’s get behind whoever the GOP nominee is. None can be worse than the ‘One Big Awful Mistake America’ of 11/4/2008.

  • Rose

    OBAMA: RE-ELECT ME OR ELSE !!!

    Herbert Hoover’s 1928 Presidential campaign promised “a chicken in every pot and a car in every garage.”

    Barack Hussein Obama is now twisting Hoover’s slogan and promising, if re-elected, “a chick in every car and some pot in every garage”!

    For more on the one whose teachers gave him good marks(ists), Google or MSN “Obama a Black-Slavery Avenger?,” “Michelle Obama’s Allah-day,” and “Islam Will Purify Jews and Christians.”

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